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Welcome to the Yahoo! Message Board for Charlton Bullseye


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Please feel free to post links, pictures, and messages galore about anything Charlton or Charlton-related...<br><br>And welcome to the Club!<br><br>Doc


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WELLLLL, I have ARRIVED!!<br>We'll start some subjects SOON!


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Hi Doc, I guess I made it too. I hope you like
the Blue Beetle because I have a number of covers of
the Dan Garret Blue Beetle that I can scan and add.
How would you prefer the albums to be
say<br>character driven in that there would be an album of Captain
Atom, one for Thunderbolt, one for Fighting Five ormore
generalized. Of course there would have to be one called
Bullseye. Let me know how you would like it to go and I'll
see what I can come up with. Man, I love these clubs.


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Re: Separate character-driven albums: That's a
great idea! I'm glad you have the Dan Garrett covers...
I only own one of the 1965 series, and only one of
the 1940s Fox series, so I'd love to see more of
those covers...<br><br>I love Clubs like these, too.
And, y'know, I was thinking about it recently... Most
of the greatest stuff done on the Internet has been
done in the last two years! Can you believe it? I was,
frankly, surprised at how recent many of these clubs had
been founded, and was surprised that there was NO club
for Charlton, the Seven Soldiers of Victory, or even
Captain Carrot and his amazing Zoo Crew! (All of which
I've since founded...)<br><br>We live in interesting
times, my friend, as the Chinese proverb says... I'm
just hoping that the combined knowledge and experience
of the members of this club and the others (I'm
thinking of the Hangman/MLJ club as well) will bring up a
lot of information about these great Silver Age and
Golden Age characters and comics. And that's why I
appreciate the older members of these clubs, who bought
these comics firsthand... Most of my comics have been
bought secondhand in backissue bins...<br><br>The
Fighting Five and the monster comics, Konga and Gorgo, are
the Charlton comics I'm most curious about at the
moment... Does anyone have any info on them?<br><br>Doc


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Subject: Another Charlton club
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Some friends and I actually have a Charlton
character fanfic club here at yahoo. It takes place on an
alternate Earth-4 right after the crisis where the 5
remaining earths weren't merged.<br><br>Earth-4: Starting
Over<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover</a>


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Subject: New club
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Hi, just dropping in!<br><br>One of the oldest
comics I have in my collection is a dog-eared copy of
Judomaster. Can't recall the issue number right now, but I
think the story was called "This One's For Pop". Rip
and Tige encountered Rip's old boxing coach, Pop and
saved him from some thugs. There was also a Sarge Steel
backup story.<br><br>Was most of Springer's Judomaster
stuff designed so the reader couldn't tell it was
supposed to be set in WW2? The room furnishings and
clothing styles are very 60ish.<br><br>So, what did we all
think of Bob Layton's L.A.W. mini series? I thought it
was a fair effort, but seemed a bit "off". Too much
expositional dialog and cramped panel layouts. It does read
better in one sitting rather than one ish a
month.<br><br>Can't say as I care much for what Layton did to
Nightshade. And I hate, hate, hate that Ross-designed Cap
Atom costume!<br><br>I'm looking forward to seeing
some scans from some of the 60s comics! There is a
definite dearth of Charlton material on the
Web!<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Subject: Good links.
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Doc, I checked your links to see if I knew of any
you didn't have; unfortunately, I don't know of any
additional ones. Charlton material really is difficult to
find on the web (remarkably, Dell is another company
that is hard to find out anything about), so you're
doing a good thing here by providing another venue for
Charlton material. I'll see what else I can fish up, but
I'm not expecting much luck.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon


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Subject: The Randian Question
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I've found that I REALLY like Ditko's original
take on one Vic Sage, The Question.<br><br>I felt that
the earliest versions read MUCH better than the wordy
soapboxing that appeared in his later work in the
70's.<br><br>I wish that I still had the Blue Beetles that Ditko
did, with the question backups...I assert that THOSE
versions of the characters are
DEFINITIVE.<br><br>Apparantely, a pro NO LESS than Mr. Frank Miller has stated
that he WILL be USING the ORIGINAL take on the
Question, and I'm REALLY looking FORWARD to
THAT!<br><br>Also, at LEAST DC's doing a Millenium Edition of
Mysterious Suspense... :^)


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I agree with you. The original Question was
basically a guy who had Steve Ditko's outlook on life: that
there are right things and wrong things. Mr. A (I think
that's his name) was a more extreme version of the
Question, and took this black-and-white perspective even
further.<br><br>Denny O'Neil changed the character totally. I liked
that series for a lot of things, but O'Neil really
turned a unique character into another "O'Neil
creation", like he did with Green Arrow. He just made him
deny everything he believed in and changed all his
beliefs to what Denny O'Neil believed in.<br><br>Alan
Moore's Rorschach character in WATCHMEN, based on the
Question, was an extreme version of the character, though
taken in another direction. His version was also not
true to Ditko's vision. Thankfully, Moore doesn't "do"
the grim'n'gritty thing anymore...<br><br>I'm glad to
hear that Frank Miller will be using Ditko's Question
in that DARK KNIGHT RETURNS sequel. Good to see the
character in any event, but even better to see him done
right. Let's hope he doesn't drop the ball on this
one.<br><br>MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE is going to be a Millennium Edition?
Wow. That IS good news. I haven't read it, but I've
heard that it's considered the GREATEST Question story
EVER, not to mention just plain well-done.<br><br>Doc


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Subject: The 1st Charlton Comics I owned were...
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Hercules. Yes, that's right. Hercules. When I was
a kid, I devoured ANYTHING having to do with
mythology, especially Greek, Norse & Egyptian mythology.
Charlton's Hercules was drawn by Sam Glanzman, better known
for his work in the Haunted Tank stories in G.I.
COMBAT.<br><br>I think I found them at a rummage sale somewhere.
When I returned later, I found "Modern Comics"
reprints of JUDOMASTER, PEACEMAKER, and CAPTAIN ATOM. It
was a real treat. And who can forget all those
"mystery" comics published by Charlton, which you could
find (at one time) in any 25-cent bin? I used to buy
TONS of 25-cent comics, just to read some rainy
Saturday (although I usually couldn't wait until then to
read them).<br><br>HERCULES has always stuck in my
mind, though. It wasn't the most high-quality story, or
anything. It was just something that was there in my
childhood, and I can still appreciate it, if only for that
much.<br><br>Doc


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Subject: A note on the Club colors...
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When I picked out the colors for this Club, I
wanted to use colors seen in the main characters of
Charlton Comics... The red is quite common, seen on
Captain Atom, Thunderbolt, Judomaster, etc. The blue is
even more common, seen on those first two, and then
Blue Beetle and Nightshade, etc. And the brown on the
left side comes from Peacemaker.<br><br>The Background
color is a tribute to all the yellowing pages found in
many older comics, especially when it comes to Silver
Age Charlton Comics. I love yellowed, old comics...
;)<br><br>Doc


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I'm dan from the mile high city and I just joined
up. I know some of the people here and I had some
charlton books as a kid so it seemed like a good idea. I
remember blue beetle and cpt. atom and a guy called
thunderbolt and the question and nightshade (?) and a guy
called the prankster. I think there were some other
heros to. I'm in a hurry cause I'm eating lunch but I
don't type to good anyway so get used to it.<br><br>see
ya<br>dan


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Things ARE looking UP fer Ole Vic!<br><br>Now if we could only have Steve Ditko DO a NEW Question story!!


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Doc,<br>I rather enjoyed the Charlton Hercules;
he was very faithful to mythology and fitted my idea
of what a demi-god would look like much more than
the Marvel Hercules, who was usually presented as a
second-rate Thor.<br><br>The earliest Charlton comics I
recall are a mixture of post-code sanitized horror, war
stories, funny animal humor, westerns, and some off the
wall things like Hot Rod comics. It was easy to spot a
Charlton comic because they didn't trim their pages very
well and there was something about the colors and
printing quality that was a bit different than the other
companies. I remember they had a short-lived hero title,
'Mr. Muscles', when there was a shortage of long
underwear types; Mr. Muscles was a sort of inferior
'Strongman', a series I vaguely remembered from Magazine
Enterprises (I lived in the country and magazines and books
passed from one family to another; consequently, it
wasn't uncommon to trade for fairly old comics, although
newer ones were more greatly prized.<br><br>I don't
think I'm headed anywhere with this, but it's been
interesting for me to bring up old memories. I'll drop by
again when I can put down some sort of coherent
statement.<br><br>Take care.<br>Jon


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Doc<br>you started yesterday and have already got
9 members I think that's really good. I don't
remember what my first chalton comic was but I remember
blue beetle and captain atom best. Captain atom had a
red and yellow costume that looked good then they
gave him a stupid red blue and silver one and he
didn't last much longer after that. I think the first
charlton books I read were probly war books like fighting
marines. <br>I thot charlton was second rate until captain
atom and blue beetle came out. I wish they had lasted
longer.<br><br>see ya<br>dan


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My first Charlton comics were E-Man, can't
remember the numbers, but I am a big John Byrne fan and I
bought them for the Rog 2000 backup stories. To be
honest I thought E-Man was/and is way to silly, but Rog
2000 was pretty cool. I also have a couple of Space
1999 and Doomsday +1's done by Mr. Byrne that I really
like.<br><br>Well that's my brush with Charlton,<br><br>Rubberman41


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I think my first where E-man, too. I think his
might've been the first super-hero comic I ever owned. He
might've been a little silly, but I was a little kid at
the time to that suited me just fine. One thing I
always thought was cool about him was that unlike other
space-origin heroes, he wasn't even remotely human. His
natural state was pure energy.


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My first experience was actually through the
"Modern Comics" reprints of Charlton, back in the
mid-70's.(anyone remember dem?)I first got them in the local
Pathmark, in 3-packs, then later, K-Mart had 'em 10 FER A
BUCK!!!<br><br>To a low-budget fanboy, THIS was a GOOD
ting.<br><br>The first books I got were Captain Atom #83, Blue
Beetle #1, I forget the issue of Judomaster I had,
Vengeance Squad(interesting Pete Morisi art), Monster
Hunters(Countess, anyone remember HER?), E-Man #2(of COURSE!),and
some various OTHER books that have faded in me fragile
eggshell-like mind. :^)<br><br>Anyone ELSE ever get the Modern
Reprints?


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Modern Comics? Yeah, those are most of the Charlton comics I have, and I'm grateful for them. I could always count on finding them in the 25-cent bins... ;)


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I've found a motherload of material on Steve
Ditko, which includes a generous helping of his Charlton
work: Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, the Question, and even
a little info on Konga and Gorgo. I've added a link
to this site to the links collection
here.<br><br><a href=http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html target=new>http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html</a><br><br>Check under "creations" to find the Charlton material
(and if you're a Ditko fan, you'll love the rest of
the site as well).<br><br>Enjoy,<br>Jon


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Thanks jon there's cool stuff here. I really like
ditko and I'm going back into that site and read myself
silly. I never heard of konga but I saw an issue of
gorgo once. Those were bad movies but they look like
great comics.<br><br>see ya<br>dan


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Thanks Jon!!<br><br>Ditko-rama!!!!


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Always good to see a new member sign on here. Out of curiosity, how did you learn about the Bullseye and which Charlton characters are you most interested in?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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I stumbled across this site while searching for
Lone Ranger material for Golden Agers, but it has some
relevence here as well. Western comics were big from 1948
throught the early 60s, and Charlton took over many
Western titles from Fawcett in 1954. I can remember Rocky
Lane, Sunset Carson and Lash LaRue comics, and actually
looked forward to Lash LaRue issues. Those character
were liscensed to Charlton, but Charlton also had
original western titles. 'Six Gun Heroes' had a nice
masked character, Gunmaster, who actually bridged the
gap between westerns and super heroes (there was a
lot of Green Arrow in the book). Gunmaster even had
his own title for awhile, but the name was altered
and the book was taken over by a character I bet some
of you do remember, Judomaster.<br><br>Although
these books are pretty esoteric, I've added this link
to the
collection.<br><br><a href=http://www.surfnetinc.com/chuck/comics.htm target=new>http://www.surfnetinc.com/chuck/comics.htm</a><br><br>Oh, I nearly forgot, Charlton also had a book about a
horse that held on for quite some time,
Fury.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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I like lash larue and I read lots of western so I
think this is a good link. I saw it over at golden
agers and thot it was cool. I don't remember gunmaster
but judomaster was cool. Anyone remember judomaster
fighting the smiling skull? <br><br>see ya<br>dan


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Thanks, Jon<br><br>Doc


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Doc,<br><br>I know that cowboys aren't the first
thing that come to mind when you hear the name
Charlton, but they published about the same things everyone
else did in the fifties. I wish I could find some of
their weirder stuff, like Hot Rod comics, but as you
know it's hard to find anything about Charlton period,
let alone what one would chose. I would love to learn
more about Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt, and Peacemaker
but there just doesn't seem to be much information on
them on the web. That's one of the reasons a club like
this is important; Charlton (and other defunct
publishers) should be remembered even if it never was one of
the best publishers, it was one that hung in there
and should be remembered for tenacity, if nothing
else.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Spaceranger, thank for putting the cover scan of
Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt #58 in the club's photo
section. I can't remember having seen that issue. My prime
memory of Thunderbolt is an issue in which he fought
Evila, a better-looking female version of Mole Man. At
the end his Tibetan aide (whose name I cannot
remember) thought that Evila was dead, but Thunderbolt said
something to the effect, "Consider what her name is spelled
backwards. She'll be back again." Anyone know if Evila ever
returned?<br><br>Curious,<br>Jon


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Hi Jon, I think that you are recalling an issue of the DC Thunderbolt #1.  I'll  to get some of the newer covers up in the next few days. Take care<br>Don


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Funny, I actually have that same issue of Thunderbolt (the one posted in the Photos section), and it's the only one I have.<br><br>Doc


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Well, my memory is going to hell, but I don't
think I ever saw the DC version of Thunderbolt. The
issue I remember definately had artwork by PAM. I take
it Evila was used in the DC series? That answers my
question about wether she would appear again or not. The
only other character I can remember Thunderbolt
tangling with was The Hooded One.<br><br>Is my memory
completely shot? I hope someone else can remember Evila
appearing in a Charlton issue of
Thunderbolt.<br><br>Worrying about senility,<br>Jon


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Hi Jon, Ithink you're right, what I meant to say
was Evila was in almost every issue of the DC
Thunderbolt. Check the scans I will adding the covers as I
come across them. Whew, I did 18 scans for a variety
of clubs tonight,that along with posting, etc, four
hours.<br><br>be sure to check out my
place.<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/spacerangeroutpost target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/spacerangeroutpost</a><br><br>happy hour tonight, and don't mind spacerangerdelvis,
that's Elvis with a d, you did<br>wonder what ever
happened to the old hound dog didn't you? The Weekly World
News Was Right!!!!


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My favorite Charlton title of all time was
Charlton Preimere. I like the Shape among others<br>and I
liked anthology and showcase type books. In<br>the same
issue with the Shape there was a weird guy whose name I
can't recall but it may have been<br>Spookman there was
a third story about three young guys I believe it
was called Trio. That book brings back found members.
That was about the time I tried to break into comics
and Jim Warren rejected my work for being too bloody.
Those were the days.


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Elvis,<br><br>it was Spookman and I wish there
had been more than just than single story; the
character and his supporting characters were interesting.
The name of the story featuring the three highscool
aged heroes was Tyro Team; one of them, "Creep" as the
other two called him, was a minor telepath.<br>The
Shape was a charming and witty strip, very much like
Plastic Man in some ways. That was a solid issue; too bad
none of those characters ever appeared
again.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Spaceranger<br>I never saw the dc thunderbolt but
the covers look cool and I see the costume doesn't
have bare legs. Are the dc thunderbolt books any good?
I read some thunderbolt storys when I was twelve or
so and I thought they were allright and had really
cool art. How old are the new books and are they hard
to find? Denver has a lot of comic shops and lots of
bookstores have back issue comics so I can probly find them
I just wonder if I should look.<br><br>see
ya<br>dan


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I've created a photo album featuring the best part of the recent L.A.W. mini-series-- the covers!<br><br>Enjoy.<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Jor-el<br><br>I didn't pick up any of the L.A.W.
issues but your covers make me curious about a couple of
things: what did the acronym stand for? Who is the woman
with the group? I recognize the five male heroes
(radical revision on Peacemaker I'm assuming but aren't
all Peacemaker revisions radical) and I assume that
must be Nightshade. What the deal there, she looks
completely different.<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br>Jon


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&lt;&lt;your covers make me curious about a
couple of things: <br><br>what did the acronym stand
for? &gt;&gt;<br><br>L-iving A-ssault
W-eapon<br><br>&lt;&lt;Who is the woman with the group? I recognize the five
male heroes (radical revision on Peacemaker I'm
assuming but aren't all Peacemaker revisions radical) and
I assume that must be
Nightshade.&gt;&gt;<br><br>Yes, that's Nightshade.<br><br>&lt;&lt; What the deal
there, she looks completely
different.&gt;&gt;<br><br>Bear with me, I'm going by memory here...
;-)<br><br>In issue # 1, Fate (the Jared Stevens
version)stripped Eve of the Succubus (I think that's the correct
term) that had been the source of her powers. This
somehow had the triple effect of increasing Eve's
dimensional abilities, changing her appearance to this
smokey, see-through look, and robbing her of her
emotions. She was still able to assume her regular form,
which she did to obtain some information from a foreign
offical at a party. Nightshade went through the most
radical changes of all the Charlton characters in the
mini-series.<br><br>Some notes on the others:<br><br>The new Peacemaker
(sorry, I can't remember the character's name) was a
doctor who had his medical license taken away and now
worked for the government's Peacemaker Project under
Sarge Steel.<br><br>Blue Beetle had just blown his
fortune on a redesigned Bug vehicle and was saddled with
a load of guilt over Dan Garrett's fate.<br><br>Vic
(Question) Sage is now a TV news anchor.<br><br>Captain Atom
spent practically the whole series captured by the bad
guy. When he was finally freed, he adopted the
(godawful, IMHO) costume from Kingdom
Come.<br><br>Judomaster had the most interesting development arc, I
think. Rip Jagger had spent the previous several decades
in a time-lost city, immune to the ravages of time.
He was dispatched back to the outside world to deal
with a menace that had its roots in his past. I won't
spoil it for you, but his new costume holds a
clue.<br><br>The mini was fairly good. You might want to pick it
up if you can. It was very "talky" and read like a
1980s comic, but it had some interesting stuff in it.
I'm hoping Bob Layton might get a chance to take
another run at these guys
somewhere.<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Subject: Re: The L.A.W.
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I'd heard somewhere that before they decided that
L.A.W. was going to stand for "Living Assault Weapons"
(ick!), one idea for the name may have been "Last
American Warriors", which sounds better, but doesn't
really make much sense.<br><br>Doc


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I discovered some Charlton hero stuff by Jerry
Ordway this morning. I've added a photo album of
'em.<br><br>There's a unused cover for Who's Who #19 which has the
Question on it. A promotional piece of the DCU heroes has
the Beetle and Cap Atom lurking in the background.
And most intriguing of all, a sketch of Nightshade
for a proposed mini series with the Huntress(!). This
is the first I've heard of such a project. Anyone
else ever hear of it
before?<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Drool... that was beautiful! I've been a Jerry
Ordway fan since Day One and it was a real treat to see
those sketches, especially of the one of Nightshade...
A Nightshade/Huntress mini? If Jerry Ordway did it,
I'd definitely buy it. I hope they return the
Nightshade to her original costume and powers -- I really
hate the L.A.W. version.<br><br>Doc


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I added a couple of Blue Beetle links. One is a
fairly nice page devoted to Ted Kord. The other is a
real gem devoted mostly to the Golden Age Dan Garrett
Beetle, but includes info on both the early Silver Age
Garrett Beetle and Ditko's version.<br><br>Boy, the
Beetle was quite a franchise back in the
40s!<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Bruce<br>the new blue beetle site is ok but the
golden age blue beetle is great. We've got a link to it
over at golden agers and I've seen it before and I'm
glad it gets around cause it's really good. I think I
remember some old blue beetle reprints from charlton that
were printed before the charlton blue beetle that was
before ditko's beetle. I could be wrong but I think
charlton did blue beetle reprints in the middle of the 50s
just after the comics code started. It could have been
some other company tho'.<br><br>see ya<br>dan


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Subject: Thunderbunny?
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I'm confused. I've seen Thunderbunny once before,
in the early 80s in an issue (one of the last) of
Blue Ribbon Comics, from Archie. If the character
appeared in the Charlton Bullseye, how did he wind up
being reprinted by Archie? Does anyone know the story
behind the story?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Hi Jon,<br>Thunderbunny first came to life in
1977 in the Comic Crusader Storybook published by his
creator,<br>Mary Greim. He next hopped over to Charlton for at
least two issues of Charlton Bullseye and then hopped
over to Archie for Blue Ribbon #13. THat story was
continued in the Warp Graphics magazine sized Thunderbunny
and changed his uniform from blue to red. I believe
that Marty retained full rights to the character the
whole time. I have five issues featuring Thunderbunny
from the three companies noted above. Just in case you
might be interested, the entire lot, except for Blue
Ribbon #13 will be listed as a lot over at the Ebay
auctions, just search under Thunderbunny or auctions by
SpaceRanger2000.<br>Which brings up another question. WhY? When I first got
on the net in January, I got the DC message boards
as Space Ranger. When I signed up for Ebay, they
wouldn't let me use that so I became Spaceranger2000, then
when I joined Yahoo, they said that I couldn't use
that and was born Spaceranger3000. Anyway, I wonder if
I am in competition against myself? Or is there
actually<br>somebody else who likes Space Ranger out there.


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:53:59 -0700
Subject: Howdy Benradd.
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Good to see another member join up. Don't
recognize your name from any other comic sites, do you mind
if I ask how you happen to find the Bullseye? And
before I forget, welcome.<br><br>Take care,<br>jon


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Subject: Doc, congradulations!
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I've posted this message over at '7 Soldiers of
Victory' too, so pardon me if it's redundant. Mikel
Midnight has listed both this club and '7 Soldiers' and
put up links to both sites in the latest update to
'Mikel Midnight Golden Age Directory'. He also listed
both clubs and put up links on his Contacts Page
("sites I often visit"). I'd say traffic and membership
at both clubs should increase at both
clubs.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Subject: Re: Doc, congradulations!
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Thanks! I've justed noticed it today. In an
e-mail to Mikel Midnight, I mentioned another club which
in his reply he told me he would be adding as well,
in his next update.<br><br>Now -- does anyone have
any ideas for discussion? I'd hate to see this Club
dwindle away as I've seen other clubs do (Starman &
Freedom Fighters clubs, for example -- they need
help!)...<br><br>Doc


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Subject: Question about Chalton.
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I doubt this will start a discussion, but there
is one Charlton character I'd like to get some
information about, if anyone happens to know. Charlton had a
lot of war comics over the years, most of which were
forgetable, but in either late 1968 or early 1969 they
introduced a character called "The Iron Corporal." I like to
know who were the creators behind the character. This
was a very naturalistic (if not realistic) series
about an Australian corporal fighting in the Pacific
during WW II, the heroics weren't nearly as broad as
those of Sgt. Rock and the DC war books, and the look
of the equipment, uniforms and weapons was dead on.
Does anyone remember the title of the book this
appeared in, who wrote it, or who the artist was? I don't
think the series lasted long, but I might be wrong
about that. I only saw two issues featuring the Iron
Corporal but that doesn't mean there weren't more. I think
this is a fairly obscure character, but I'm hoping
someone remembers him.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon


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Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:59:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Question about Chalton.
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Hi Jon,<br>Basically, The Iron Corporal had his
origin in ARMY WAR HEROES #22, by Sam Glanzman. He also
appeared in #23-25. Beyond that, I don't recall a<br>whole
lot. I'm not even sure if the character was a specific
item when the Charlton material was sold off. Maybe
sine we now have the specific issue numbers and title
someone else can <br>provide more detail.<br>Take
care.<br>Don


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Don,<br><br>Thanks, just providing the title of
the book is enough information for me that you knew
who was behind the character is a bonus. I would
doubt that anyone was interested in picking up the
rights to the character but who knows, stranger things
have happened.<br><br>Thanks again,<br>Jon


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Actually, now I have started wondering about
Spookman, was he owned by Charlton? If so, was he sold? If
not, who owns him. I hope to find some time to dig
that issue out but I think that Pat Boyette(?) may
have created him and retained the rights.


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Good question, Don. My Overstreet doesn't have
that kind of information, but since Thunderbunny and
Neil the Horse didn't belong to Charlton there is a
possibility that the Shape, Tyro Team, and Spookman may not
have been the property of Charlton either. Tyro Team
had artwork by PAM, and I think you're right about
Boyette on Spookman. I have no idea who did the Shape,
but it certainly wasn't one of Charlton's regular
artists. It would be interesting if all three of those one
appearance characters were still owned by their
creators.<br><br>Jon


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I've posted the GA Blue Beetles on my GA cover site as well as Mystery Men Comics. Hope you enjoy.<br><a href=http://www.goldenyears.chatbook.com target=new>http://www.goldenyears.chatbook.com</a><br><br>-Steve


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Subject: new scans
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Hi guys, finally I jusr added the cover of Charlton Premiere which features Spookman, which was the subjects of a few posts recently,  Also , I added Charlton Bullseye #3.<br>Take care.<br>Don


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Thanks for the new scans Don. I hadn't seen that
issue of Charlton Premiere in so long I was thinking
the book was actually titled Charlton Bullseye. Odd
that I remember the stories so well after all these
years, but forget the book's title. Pity that none of
these features were ever used again, talk about wasted
potential.<br><br>Jon


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Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:39 -0700
Subject: " Over On ' Earth 4 ' Site "...
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...I posted a coupla postings May 25 , one titled " Hello It's Me " in particular , that really should have gone here , and , I think both pose & answer some questions that might be interesting .


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What's the story behind the early-80s? ,
comic-book format , Bullseye ? I was " out of comics " at
the time . I bought , and may still have in
storage/may be getting soon , the mid-1970s " in-house
fanzine " magazine-sized b7w Bullseye .


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Walt,<br><br>Charlton Bullseye was more-or-less
the Charlton equivalent of something like Brave and
Bold or Showcase or Marvel Premiere back when those
books were a place for try-out features. Some were a
bit odd (like 'Neil the Horse'). It was also the last
gasp for Charlton, so some features that probably
should have had another chance didn't get them.<br><br>I
don't really know much about the "in-house fanzine"
never having actually seen a copy, so I'll be glad to
hear what you have to say when you find your
copy.<br><br>Take care and good to have you here.<br>Jon Glade


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...I DON'T like being called " Walt " ,
INCIDENTALLY !...Of course , the mistake is understandable ,
given my e-dress name...Is the magazine-size " Bullseye
" THAT rare ? I believe there were SEVERAL
issues...It was mostly about the Action Heroes , tho. there
was stuff on then-current Char....It printed ( 'least
one , probably more ! ) some prepared-in-th'-6Ts<br>"
vault " Blue Beetle stories , by Ditko ,<br>etc. ( in
b&w ) no " new " stories , don't believe...some fan
art , inc. this Canadian boyo named John Byrne
!...what happened to him ?...I get the impression that th'
comic book " Bullseye " was a sort of " TRIPLE-a " THAT
WOULD print TH' STORREES , BUT PAY TH' ARTEESTSS ONLY
w/300 free copies , or similar ? ( Pleezz 'scyoozzz
typing error 'bove ! ) Did they keep character rights
?<br>( Greim apparently did ! ) 'Least , for original
characters ? I've seen , in th' ACG Char. reprints , some
anthology-type stories that LOOK , sorta , like 1970s fanzine
fodder...They ones who sold their stories outright , or didn't
buy 'm' back when Charlton folded ?


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Waltsland,<br><br>Sorry about the name; what do
you want to be called? As far a the b&w Bullseye
goes, it is listed in the 'Overstreet Guide' and
doesn't appear to be rare, although it isn't clear
exactly how plentiful the five issue are. Of the
characters that appeared there, Charlton sold the rights to
Captain Atom, Question, and Nightshade. I suspect they
owned Byrne's 'Doomsday + 1"; I don't know a thing
about 'The Wrong Country' and as you pointed out,
Martin Greim did hold onto the rights to original
characters. I've never seen any of these issue, so I would
appreciate any descriptions you could give.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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" Walter " is just fine . " W . L . " ? " W . L .
L . " ? I assume " The Wrong Country " is one of
those anthol.-stories I was talking about , a fairly
ambitious/long one ? Not HAVING any currently , th'only " 1970s
fanzine fodder " story I can remember much about was a -
possibly entirely silent ? - story that ended in a video
arcade , definite " early 80s " topicality damage there
- I might be running two? stories 2-gether - <br>
Had it 'bout '96 , in an ACG ( whuutt's that company
called now , & what WERE they called B-4 ?<br>" Doomsday
+ 1 was reprinted - by Fantagraphics ? <br> - under
some new title like " Doomsday Squad " <br>( " Posse "
? Heh , heh , heh , heh ! ) , w/one?
prev.-unpublished stooree , I believe , during the<br>80s ?
Speaking of Charlton ( not- ) PUBLISHED , I saw an ACG?
title , a coupla years ago , of orig.-for-funny-books (
not newspaper reprints ) <br>Hagar The Horrible
material , that'd apparently been prepared and never
published...Details ? <br>For that matter , during the early-mid 90s
, when Harvey , kind of on its last legs , was
publishing a lot of licsenced cartoon characters , ( Meaning
non-Harvey ones . ) , generally reprinting stuff that other
companies had published before ( Of course , anybody's
version of " BULLWINKLE " becomes Jay Ward Productions'
property , and any <br>" HUCKLEBERRY HOUND "
Hanna-Barbera's , etc . , I<br>already know ! ) , they seemed
AWFULLY prone to publish stuff from th' Charlton run of
those characters ! Any ideerrs ? Mebbe the warehouse
for film/proofs those companies drew upon happened to
be where th' Cgar. stuff was...or was filed
alphabetically by th' comp'ny <br>that had published
it.....................


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Walter,<br><br>You're into territory with the
reprint material that is unfamiliar to me, but sound
fascinating.<br>One of the sci-fi fanzines subscribed to by the
University of Wyoming had a favorable review of "The Wrong
Country," which is about all of know of it, never having
actually seen it myself. Mention ACG to me and I have
flashes of Herbie Popnecker, Magicmaster, Nemisis, and
Magic Agent, from the third-rate American Comics Group
(although Herbie was a first-rate and bizarre parody). I
know the company you mean but all I can think of is
AmeriComics, which might not be quite right; I have no idea
who they turned into. You obviously live in an area
with much better access to obscure titles than I do,
but I think almost everyone does. I do remember
Harvey going down by fits and jerks at the end and
putting out all sorts of strange (for them) stuff, some
of which had obviously been printed elsewhere. Keep
talking about this stuff, I find it very interesting and,
with luck, someone else may know more about it. Just
out of curiosity, do you remember Comely Comics and
'Captain Canuck', which showed up and disappeared quickly
in the early 80s? It was a Canadian company and I've
often wondered how long it was around and if it did
anything else.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon


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One strangie is that Captain Canuck got newsstand
distribution ( for at least one issue ) , in the Seventies ,
maybe in 1973 , or a little later...However , its "
heyday " was in the Eighties independent era...I've seen
little else of it . I'm fairly " Outta Touch " w/most
coichhs now , though I currently " live " in "
cosmopolitan " San Francisco...Presently , I only go ,
irregularly , to one comic store . I get CBG , and they list
<br>the former A-Plus " as ACG now - Thank you ! They're
now , apparently , reprinting Dick Tracy and Terry
And The Pirates stuff , pres. legit. liscenced from
Trib. Media - a step ( or three !!!!! ) up the comix
prestiege scale ( I've SEEN ONE? . ) , plus apparently ,
cont.'ing w/Charlt. , etc. Must go . C-ya !!!!!


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Walter,<br><br>I saw three or four issues, one of
which was an annual, of Captain Canuck in the early
eighties, then the title just disappeared. Why a Canadien
published book was showing up on whirly-racks in Wyoming I
have no idea. I haven't seen a copy of Comic Buyers
Guide in over ten years and I still miss it. Glad to
learn about the Charlton reprints, I had no idea they
were going on.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon


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I bought , yestiddy , several ACG reprint titles
( standard 32-pg , b&w ) , that feature non-Cha.
stuff...only to find that almost all of them have ( What sure
appear 2 me 2 be , ) reprinted Charlton anthology
stories in the back-up slot !!!<br>Details some other .


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Over at about.com's Comics forum , which I post
on , someone put up a link 2 a " SPACE - 1999 " site
that has ACTUAL Charlton covers , AND , FULL STORIES ,
- text pages , even !!!!!!! - from both th' Char.
color comic ,<br>and , the black<br>and white - fully
viewable !!!!!!!!! Staton & Byrne art , Cuti scripts - the
usual gang of idiots !!!!!!!!! ( What's Cuti doing
these days , anyhow ??? ) - Apparently , seperate <br>(
NON-Charlton ! ) British-market-done stories from the Brit.
weeklys , too ! <br> A different Charlton
non-company-controlled pub-<br>lishing experience...WHAT WERE THE
CHARLTON <br>" DAVID CASSIDY " AND " BOBBY SHERMAN "
TITLES ABOUT , ANYHOW ??????? They BOTH ran <br>(
Something like ! ) 12 bi-monthly issues , <br>each - rather
long , at least by the standards of such " fad
"-oriented items - Presumably , at least the first year's
issues must have sold fairly well !!!!! Yes , obviously
, they're NOT th' kinda titles that 11-15-yr.-old "
fans " would tend to pay a whole bunch of attention to
!<br> Was th' " Bobby " title ( exclusively ? ) <br>an
adaptation of his short-lived <br>( " Partridge Family "
spin-off ! ) series ,<br> " Getting Together " ?????????
Was David's title about th' " real " David Cassidy (
telling starry-eyed runaway teenage girls to go home to
their small towns ? ) , presumably ( at least <br>in
part ) OWNED by D . C ....at least his
likeness/naymee...?...Much like , I assume , the today-in-the-hospital Bob
Hope owns the right to his comic ?


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What is the URL for about.com? I would very much
like to see the link you mentioned. I have no idea
what Nick Cuti is doing these days, I don't recall
having seen his name in a good long time. As for what
the Bobby Sherman and David Cassidy titles were
about, I also thought that fell into the "who cares?"
catagories; interesting that those two books lasted that
long. When I was cleaning out my step-daughter's
bedroom prior to selling the house, I found a "Bay City
Rollers" eight page black and white digest-sized comic
that had come out of "Tiger Beat" or some other
magazine; she was around fourteen at the time and I think
her Bay City Rollers phase was when she was around
ten. Needless to say she didn't want to keep the book,
and although I don't usually throw away anything that
resembles a comic book, that particular item went in the
trash. I'll probably hear that it was rare and valuable
now.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...If you don't know/care , fair enough...I still
would like to know , however !!!!!!! I assume your<br>"
Momma Throw-out " experience w/the BCRs comic would've
been in th' early/mid-80s...<br>Charlton's " Partridge
Family " comic was oddball/interesting , as I recall ,
or , oddball , anyway...The Charl. Ditko titles of "
Konga " and " Gorgo " saw reprinting in th' 90s? , with
th' names changed/relettered...( Just looked like
generic big dinosaur/ape monsters , I guess ! )


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Good call, Walt, the Bay City Rollers incident
was in 1983. I remember 'Konga' and 'Gorgo' from when
they were first published. 'Gorgo' wasn't that rich,
but Steve Ditko did an outstanding job of bringing a
personality to Gorgo and his mother, which considering he was
stuck with a series based on a cheesy but memorable
movie, was quite a feat. When you're stuck with a story
about a great big lizard and another lizard that is
only damned big the possibilities seem limited, but
Ditko's work elevated the series considerably. I still
remember some scenes of the mother and child monsters
frolicing in the ocean quite fondly. 'Gorgo' was a much
better book than anyone had a right to expect. Marvel's
mid-seventies "Godzilla' series could have taken a tip from the
way 'Gorgo' was handled. Any idea what names 'Gorgo'
and 'Konga' were given when they were
renamed?<br><br>When 'The Partridge Family' and 'Emergency' (or 'Code
12' or whatever that series with Bobby Sherman was
first called) and top 40 radio made David Cassidy and
Bobby Sherman ubiquitous, I would have welcomed a title
that pitted Gorgo and Konga against them with the same
results as the one-minute 'Bambi Meets Godzilla'
underground cartoon. Now that the mighty have fallen, I
probably would read the Charlton books about them with
great interest. Incidently, Bobby Sherman is a real
perimedic now; I was subjected to a yearly first aid film
again last September, and Sherman was the narrator.
Curiously enough, although many of the people who were
required to view it were my age and older, I was one of
the very few who remembered him. How quickly they
forget.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...I don't like being called " Walt " or any
similar dimunitive , either <br>- Though , admittedly ,
my choice <br>of " nom de Internet " , could...-<br>
The TV show that brought B . S . to th' big-time
<br>was " Here Come The Brides " , a semi-Western ,
either based on , or ripped off from , " Seven<br>Brides
For Seven Brothers "..." - The references that I've
seen both differ . - " Code 12 "? is probably your
conflation? of " Adam-12 "<br>and " Emergency " , the latter
of which's star? , <br>Randolph Mantooth? , did ,
himself , become a bit of the teeny idol at he time , as
well...!...Act-<br>ually , a bit after Bobby's tiimee...It ran against "
All In The Family " , and I never watched it , myself
( Ditto 4 Bubballa's "Getting<br>2-Gether )...! "
Adam-12 " was made by Jack Webb's company , as was "
Emergency " ( which , also , had a comic book issued by
some deservedly obscure company...I wonder whom those
losers were ! )<br> Bobby Sherman PLAYED Reno in some "
Teen Idols " triple bill , with Peter Noone , and I
forget which other...The S . F . Sunday paper runs about
EIGHT pages of Reno infomercial copy in its Sunday
entertainment " pink " every week...I'll try 2 see 'bout th'
re-titled K/G...Do you know where <br>D's " Killjoy " was
reprinted/if there were <br>any others ?


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...CORRECTION !...General Nevada , not ,<br>Reno , actually...


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...Hey , wasn't that picked up from ( Even if it
was never published by ! ) Simon &
Kirby's...uh...Prize comics ? Looks like S&K art on th' faces there .
( " We had faces then ! " )<br>How'd th' daangg
connceept work , anyway ?


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If anyone has any ideas for stories involving the
Charlton characters, we can use them over at my fanfic
club. It doesn't matter if they involve one of the
super-hero characters like Captain Atom or if it's a story
starring Gorgo! Anything involving a character published
by Charlton is welcome.<br><br>Earth-4:Starting
over<br><a href=http://clubc.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover target=new>http://clubc.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover</a>


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Sorry. There was a typo in that adress so the
link wouldn't work. here it is again.<br><br>Earth4:
Starting
Over<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover</a><br><br>This club is part of the 5 Earths Project where all
the stories take place in a reality where the the 5
remaining earths in the Crisis on Infinite Earths didn't
stay merged.


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I had an uncle Walt, who hated being Walter or
Wally, so part of that is a carryover from my childhood;
I must have heard the name "Walt" several thousand
times before I was twenty, and if I don't stop and
think I'll probably slip up again. I probably am
confusing Bobby Sherman with Robert Mantooth, did they look
alike? Since Sherman became a paramedic, I took it he
was the one that had played a paramedic. I saw very
little television from late 1968 until late 1973, so
that era is spotty for me. I know one of the Salt Lake
City channels did run old 'Emergency' episodes under
the title 'Code 12' or 'Code Blue' for awhile years
after the program had been cancelled, but I seldom
watched it. I imagine it was Dell (or even Gold Key) who
did the comic book versions of 'Adam 12' and
'Emergency' as they had a long history of television
adaptions. I completely missed 'Here Come the Brides," but
somehow I picked up the name Bobby Sherman; he did have a
brief top 40 radio career didn't he, or was that some
other Bobby?<br><br>I think I put a link in the
collection here to a site called 'Ditko Looked Up', which
would have information on Killjoy, although I don't
know if it has any information on reprint appearances.
I don't know the URL off the top of my head, but
I'm almost positive I posted that link here as well
as some other sites.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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The idea of Gorgo fanfiction is a bit
mind-boggling, Starsky, but would most likely be interesting to
read if it was handled well. I have visited your
Earth-1 and Earth-2 sites and have read quite a bit there
(especially at the Earth-2 site), although I have given up
posting there because I don't write fiction and shouldn't
be giving advice about what I don't do.<br><br>Isn't
the Earth-4 site the one that has the Impact version
of the MLJ heroes melded in with the resident
characters, or am I thinking of a site that blends MLJ with
Quality? I know one of your five sites mixes MLJ with some
other company.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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We opened up earth-4 to the MLJ characters, too, just to add some variety. Though the more I learn about Charlton, I find that they could carry a world by themselves.


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It is nice to at last find a significant outlet
for the fans of the often overlooked Charlton Comics
Company to learn more about that quirky and persistant
publisher.<br>My personal interests are the Action Heroes of the
late 60's and the mid-70's resurgance.<br>I have read
nothing of Pat Boyette's recent death.<br>He was one of
the artists I most associate with Charlton. Like
Ditko, he seemed to have found a company that would let
him do what he wanted. His Caniff-like art was very
different yet very handsome.<br>What has become of Pete
Morisi? I read he had taken back the Thunderbolt rights
(hence no T-Bolt in L.A.W.) but what are his
plans?<br>What has become of Joe Gill? He is the one writer of
comics that I know little if anything about. He was so
productive that I figured he was just a house name for
years. Has he passed on?<br>Thanks in advance for any
info you can give me.


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...Since you say " " PUBLISHED by..." ( emphasis
mine ) , and even mention the liscenced Gorgo , I just
might take that as a suggestion 2 try , say ,<br> "
BARNEY GOOGLE AND SNUFFY SMITH " fanfiction<br>( "
Sparkplug II And The Return Of Sweet Mama " ) , or
Hanna-Barbera characters , say , at least th' ones that Ch.
pub'd ( Which probably didn't include th' " serious "
mid-60s HB superhero characters - Jonny Quest , Birdman ,
the Herculoids , etc. - rats !!!!! ) - Years<br>ago ,
too , I joked about a " Mort Walkerverse " <br>( The
strips at least in part connected with Mort Walker or
people who've worked with him...Beetle Bailey , Hagar ,
Hi/Lois , Sam's Strip/Sam And Milo , Boner's Ark...)
crossover..." DEATH STROLLER !!!!!!! "...AND , a "
what-if-Todd-Mac-<br>Farlane-did-Beetle-Bailey-a-la-his-1990-<br>Spidey-book...? " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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...Randolph Mantooth probably had <br>a generally
" cute " look , after all , he was a teen idol
!!!!!<br> - Buutt , I guess he was " tougher " looking -
More an " actor " , I guess , than Sherman , and on an
" Action/Suspense " series - Part Native
American/Alaska? , or an I jus' projecting ,<br>from , the name
?<br> Re: the synducation retitling <br>of " Emergency
! " , That's interesting !...I recently copied ,
out of nostalgia , a 1976 newspaper's TV page , for
approx. July 2 , 1976 , <br>( I'd been copying something
else from it & wanted to use up my dollar of copy-$
<br>or , at least , 90c ! ) , and noted that " Marcus
Welby " re-runs were showing , then , titled <br>"
Robert Young , Family Doctor " , and thought that THAT
must've been one of the LAST examples of a re-run getting
a large retitling...<br>Mebbe " Emer. " was later
?<br> The comic company that put out a " Emergency ! "
comic ( I think ) was...CHARLTON !!!!!! For Shame
!!!!!!...Why , I Oughta...Leave you in a flooded sewer ,
whirlpooling downward to your doom , while <br>I lecture you
as to why I'm not going<br>2 save U ( a la Dit.'s
version of <br>The Question , ) , or , anyway , drag you
away in a net , to the cheers of decent citizens ! (
In a <br>Killjoy stylee ! )<br> Sherman , did ,
indeed , have<br>pop hits . Easy come , easy go.........


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Yikes!!!!<br><br>Come to think of it, those hillbillies E-man said he ran into when he first came to earth did have a Snuffy Smith/ Lil Abner quality to them.


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Sonofvulcan,<br><br>Always glad to add another
Charlton fan to this slowly expanding club. As you
probably know, it's hard to find very much about Charlton
characters on the internet. If by any chance you find a site
that deals with any Charlton material, add a link to
it in the collection here.<br><br>I'm sad to hear
that Pat Boyette has passed on; this is the first I
have heard about his death.<br><br>I have no idea of
the whereabouts of Pete Morisi or Joe Gill. I know
Morisi always had mixed feeling about doing comics and
during the original run on 'Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt'
he insisted on remaining anonymous beyond his "PAM"
signature. However, talent will out and I'm glad his name
became associated with his work, which I always
enjoyed.<br><br>Sorry I haven't been of any help, but I hope to see
many more messages from you in the future.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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Re PAIII , as his signature wrote it out , the
story I heard was that , during the post-Wertham comics
bust , he " got a real , steady job..." -<br>a New
York City cop ( or , elsewhere in NYC metro. area !
)...AAndd , at that tiimee , th' Department still had a "
No Moonlighting " rule - at least on th' BOOKS ,
anyway ,...and that was one reason for keeping his head
a bit down ! ( He did<br>his twenty? - or whatever
- and pensioned out . )<br>I seem to remember (1) -
About th' tiimme DC's late-Eighties SECRET ORIGINS run
comcluded , a reference to a newly drawn Thunderbolt origin
by PAM being somewhere in the filing cabinet - sigh
! <br> (2) - An after-the-fact reference to a "
planned-<br>but-never-published DC weekly planned in the Eighties " - (
Presumably an early form of <br>that ACTION COMICS
WEEKLY<br>thing , which WAS published . ) - which was gonna have
THUNDERBOLT , by PAM?...?...<br> (3) - That PAM had actually
BOUGHT THUNDERBOLT back from Charlton at the end...I
covered much of this in my posting that I guess I
accidentally posted elsewhere ! Didn't anybody<br>read it ? I
mean , it;s not like this isn't a pretty incestuous
little crowd , anyway !!!!!!!...<br>and LISCENCED it to
DC , or mebbe it was another character...whatever
?<br> For Pat Boyette , THE COMICS JOURNAL had a
suprisingly long piece ( He was friends w/one of the
magazine's big enchiladas ! ) , + Mark Evanier did a good
write-up in his CBG column...Boyette had actually made ,
as a director/(or)writer , low-budget B movies
BEFORE he went <br>into comics !!!!!!! My . Got an <br>"
Obit Page "-type mention in PSYCHOTRONIC VIDEO , too .
He was fairly old ( 70ish-up ! ) , and his wife of
50-plus years had also pretty recently died , so , if you
will , it was " natural " .<br>If that doesn't seem
too callous . I mean ,<br>MY 70-something<br>father
died ( relatively ) recently...


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Thank GOD no one mentioned the Hillbilly Bears!<br>;^P


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"Oh we're the bears who play for Duke. doo-dah, Doo-dah"<br><br>"Heh heh. I love those dumb ol' Hillbilly bears."<br><br><br>heh... I suppose that isn't funny unless you've ever watched "The Critic".


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My personal favorite was "Paw"<br><br>(grumblemumblegrumble....BLAM!!!!<br>:^)


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Glad to be here. Thanks for the info. I ran
across a lot of data on Boyette on site called The
Astounding B Monster which talked about his movie
work.<br>Does anyone have any word on what is in store for the
Charlton Heroes at DC following L.A.W.? This obviously
seemed to be a kick-off series but its late arrival and
fact that I have seen nothing about it leads me to
believe that we won't be seeing any of these guys anytime
soon. I hope I am wrong.<br>As for links: I have been
to all the sites on the links page before (as I
imagine have most of us).<br>I don't have any new ones to
report.<br>I am currently refreshing my memory on E-Man by
reading (for the umpteenth time) the series. Someone
asked about Nick Cuti on a previous posting and the
last thing I have is an independent production by Cuti
and Staton from a few years back (maybe last year)
called (I think) Captain Stargazer. I will have to fish
around in my collection and get the specifics, but for
all of us hungry for more from this team it was
pretty good. Of course Staton is currently doing a
bang-up job on the Bugs Bunny-Superman mini series. I
recommend it.


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I have found the Nick Cuti data I alluded to
earlier, and as I suspected I was mostly wrong.<br>The
book was "Captain Cosmos" and there were two issues I
am aware of. The first was published by Hamilton and
is dated 1994 while the next on is self-published.
They are numbered #0 and #1 respectively.<br>This was
apparently tied into a TV show Cuti was attempting to get
produced.<br>I still recommend both of these books if you can
find them.


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Son of Vulcan,<br><br>thanks for the update on
Cuti. I doubt I'll ever run across either copy of
'Captain Cosmos', but it's nice to know that Cuti didn't
just fade away, although I wonder what he's been up to
in the last six years.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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I neglected to mention that the second "Captain
Cosmos" had a 1998 date in the indicia. I just finished
rereading these two books and they are very much in the old
style of those Charlton science fiction adventure
books. Both are in black and white and I purchased both
within a couple of months of each other just a few years
ago on the new comics rack.<br>One neat feature is
that the Captain is actually visually based on Cuti
himself.


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Subject: COMIC BOOK ARTIST TO DO CHARLTON ISSUE!
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I'm probably preaching to the choir, but just in
case you haven't heard the excellent Prozine "Comic
Book Artist" put out by the TwoMorrows group is
planning a Charlton issue for the summer.<br>They will be
focusing on the very heroes from the 60's and 70's that
seem to be the heart of this club's interest. Although
a quick read of the promo mentions all the various
genres Charlton published at one time or another (Hot
Rods!).<br>If you have not seen a copy of "Comic Book Artist",
let me recommend it without hesitation.<br>They have
already done several issues on the 70's Marvel and DC
groups. The magazine is full to overflowing(well over 100
pages) with interviews and ORIGINAL ART from the
pertinent parties. Issues run $5.95 (or so).<br>I am sure
most of the people who post here already know this but
just in case it would be much remiss not to mention
the biggest (in my mind) Charlton news since L.A.W.
last year.<br>I have been meaning to post this for the
last few days but I get distracted by the real world.


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Sonofvulcan,<br><br>actually the news about a
Charlton issue was news to me, and I'm glad you brought it
up. I'm even intrigued that someone wants to do new
episodes (or at least a few images) of the characters from
'Hot Rod Comics' (not to be confused with Big Daddy
Don's magazine 'Hot Rods'). Twomorrows is an
interesting publisher and I do have their URL in case anyone
wants to check it
out:<br><br><a href=http://twomorrows.com/info.html target=new>http://twomorrows.com/info.html</a><br><br>Twomorrows is generous with online samples and most issues
feature a few samples of new art or an interview or two.
Click on anything in blue, and there's no telling what
you'll find.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jon


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Hey Guys, thanks for the reminder. We have a new
Borders store about 15 miles down the road and I noticed
that they carried it and Previews (I thnk) mentioned
that it was coming out in June so I'll be watching for
it.


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Does anybody know anything about any time traveling Charlton characters? I would appreciate any information.<br><br>Rubberman41


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Rubberman,<br><br>you had a similar message over
at "The Hangman Returns" and it makes me wonder what
you're looking for? Are you interested in time traveling
characters in general, or are you indexing the time travlers
from each company, or what? Offhand, I think Son of
Vulcan visited ancient Greece at least once, but I can't
think of any other time travel stories from Charlton,
unless you want to count the fantasy/science-fiction
books in which case there would be dozens of
stories.<br><br>Jon


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Ironically just last evening I was reading Six
Million Dollar Man #3 and he travelled into the immediate
past. Captain Atom can in the DC continuity, but in
Charlton stories he does so with mechnical assistance in
one story and he fights a character called "13" who
is from the future in the very next issue. <br>The
only character who travels in time on his own that I
have run across is the one-shot "Spookman" in Charlton
Premiere. He travels into the distant past by means of
magic.


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Subject: Getting Bullseyes # 2 and #5
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Does anyone know where I might get Charlton
Bullseye # 2 and Bullseye # 5 (the one pictured on the
front page of this site)? I have long wanted to finish
the Captain Atom story begun is #1 but I have never
happened across the second issue.


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Does anyone know where I might get Charlton
Bullseye # 2 and Bullseye # 5 (the one pictured on the
front page of this site)? I have long wanted to finish
the Captain Atom story begun in #1 but I have never
happened across the second issue. If you can give me any
leads it would be much appreciated.


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In reality I'm working on a story for the Earth-4
story club I wanted to move Booster Gold over there so
I could team him up with Blue Beetle in a more
serious light than they did at DC after the
Crisis.<br><br>What I really need is time travelers from the future
who he could steal technology from so he could come
back in time and be a hero.<br><br>That's all for
now,<br><br>Rubberman41


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If that is what you are looking for then I think
the character "13" from the last Charlton issue of
Captain Atom would be perfect. He came from the future
and stole items using advanced science to make it
seem he was a magician.<br>I don't know how (if at
all) he was used by DC.<br>The Charlton storyline was
left open with "13" escaping back to the future.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:39:55 -0700
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From: starsky_hutch76
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Subject: Captain Atom Question
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In the origin story of Captain Atom, he rescues a
cosmonaut. Did this guy ever turn up again? I have an idea
for a fanfic at my Earth-4 site I want to use him
in.<br><br>Also, my Captain Atom knowledge is a little rusty. Can
someone give me a rundown of his rogues gallerry and
supporting cast?


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thanks SoV, according to the Earth-4 timeline, in
Captain Atom #89, 13 had a partner named Jinx and they
traveled back to 1967 to change the past so Atom's villain
the Ghost wouldn't take over their home timeline. Has
anybody got this issue or have heard of it?<br><br>I
would appreciate any help,<br><br>Rubberman41


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:30:46 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Yes, I have a copy of this particular issue. It
is one of two Captain Atoms that I actually bought
off of the stands and not in a back-issue bin. "Jinx"
is a cat (to resemble a witch's familiar). The
costume design on "Thirteen" was one of Ditko's best in
what I feel was his prime design period. It was
cancellled with this issue so the story is left
hanging.<br>I may be able to get around to doing a read of this
particular issue in the near future, so maybe I can give you
a more thorough summary.


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Sonofvulcan,<br><br>I missed this issue of
Captain Atom, probably one of the few latter issues I
didn't see, and I hope you do find it and are able to
post a more thorough summary. I'd like to know who
wrote this issue, because the names "Thirteen" and
"Jinx" are a homage of sorts; Thirteen was a backup
feature in Lev Gleason's 'Daredevil Comics'. Thirteen
debuted in 'Daredevil' #3 and he was joined by a kid
sidekick, Jinx, in 'Daredevil' #5. I'm not sure how long
this duo lasted but I suspect they were gone by
'Daredevil' #22 or so. I doubt that they use of the names in
what turned out to be the last issue of 'Captain Atom'
was a coincidence but rather a sly reference to the
past.<br><br>Interested,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:46:09 -0700
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From: punkybluester
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Subject: Hey Charlton fans...
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Hey,<br><br> I just found your link through my
friend Mikel Midnight's page, and decided to join up. My
name's Eric, and I run the Question page that I was very
pleased to find was already on your links page. My page,
as I'm going to the HeroesCon in Charlotte for the
third day tommorrow, is about to be drastically
updated, with my newest finds, including a DC Who's Who
binder on O'Neil's Vic, Blue Beetle #4 and the verrrry
hard-to-find Charlton Bullseye #5. I also bought a couple of
pages of original art from the L.A.W. today, and had
some sketches done by Stuart Immonen and Barry Kitson
that I'm going to put up. I hope to get a couple more,
including a second set from Bob Layton and Dick Giordano
tommorrow. Anyways, fellow members of the Merry Charlton
Marching Society, I'll see you all later.<br><br>--Eric


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 18 Jun 2000 08:50:31 -0700
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From: jfglade
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 08:50:31 -0700
Subject: Howdy Eric.
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Glad to have you with us. Glad also to here that
the already interesting Question site will soon be
updated with some tasty material. It's nice to actually
have some of the webmasters of the sites we link to as
members, but it makes sense that you would join. We're
always glad to have another Charlton fan and it's good
to have someone with expertise on the Question. I
know who to ask if I have questions about the
Question.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:24:07 -0700
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From: sfawcus
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Subject: Introducing myself
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Hello, <br>I just found this club through a link
on Mikel Midnight's website and thought I'd join
up,I was looking for something else on there and came
across this, I think thats what you might call
serendipity. Anyway, I've been a fan of the Blue Beetle, the
Question and Captain Atom since they got their DC series'
in the mid eighties, since then I've followed the
characters as much as possible and managed to get ahold of
some of the old Charlton stuff (and very good it is
too!)<br>I'm curious as to what people here thought of the
L.A.W. series DC recently published, I have to admit I
was very disappointed with it, a real opportunity
lost in my opinion. Anyway, thanks to Doc Quantam for
setting up this club as I know of very few fans of the
Charlton characters.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:30:18 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Welcome. You are coming to the characters from
the DC perspective, something I have little
of.<br>Outside of appearances in the JLA I know almost nothing
of what happened to Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and
company after the Crisis. <br>L.A.W. was not all that I
would have liked. Given the the credentials of the
artists I expected a little more. Actually I may have
expected too much. Blue Beetle, the Question,and the new
Peacemaker get decent coverage, but the newest Nightshade
was a visual letdown. I will say that the
reintroduction of Rip Jagger was worth the price of the series
and it didn't even seem too contrived. But Captain
Atom got almost nothing to do except change uniforms.
The last issue seemed rushed and not in the style of
the previous five. I know there was a long delay on
this mini-series; was the last installment produced at
a different time?<br>I doubt we'll see anymore of
this grouping. I hope I am seriously in error on this
point.<br>Has DC done anything with the Fightin'5?<br><br>Kaji
Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:02:21 -0700
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From: punkybluester
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Subject: Regarding the L.A.W.
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I know that Layton and Giordano butted a lot of
heads with folks at DC over this series. The awful name
was due to the Powers that Be, as were the changes
made to Nightshade and Captain Atom's costume. By the
time DC was done watering it down, I know that Bob and
Dick themselves were a little disapointed with the
outcome.<br><br>--Eric


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:36:30 -0700
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:36:30 -0700
Subject: Howdy Sfwacus
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There are probably a small legion of Charlton
fans out there, but it will take them some time to
find their way here. You and Eric have both found the
club in the last few days through Mikel Midnight's
golden age directory and I imagine a few others will
come here by that route. I imagine quite a few DC fans
don't ever know that Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, the
Question, etc. were published by Charlton. I do expect the
number here to grow, although obviously this club will
never be as large as the JSAAA I think it could reach a
respectable size. Anyway, good to have you here.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon
Glade<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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I am really pleased with the response to this and
the other clubs I and others have founded recently.
Apparently there are fans of these particular "niches" in
the comic-book world. I'm learning quite a bit and
I'll definitely be back with questions as well as info
of my own.<br><br>Seeya...<br>Doc


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As for the LAW mini , it seemed to be at least
partly there to give Capt. Atom a costume like the one
he wore in KINGDOM COME !<br> When did Charlton go
out of<br> business as a " full-fledged " ( i . e . ,
putting out lots of new comics ! ) comics company...'77 ,
'78 ?...And , how long<br>did their " half-life " (
of " Modern Comics " reprints , and this "
semi-fanzine " BULLSEYE " , and Charlton reprints of Ditko ,
and " ATOMIC MOUSE " ! ) last ? Through '87 ?<br>
Does ANYBODY remember , the REALLY short-lived
,<br>Atlas-Seaboard comics , from the mid-1970s ? They lasted
approximately six ( if <br>that !!!!! ) months ! NOT the 50s
incarnation of marvel that went under the name Atlas , a
seperate company...


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YES, I do remember the Atlas of the 70's!
<br>Among my personal favorites were:<br><br>Targitt(Howard
Nostrand of Crazy fame's "Bullitt" pastiche)<br><br>Planet
of Vampires(just substitute Cornelius, Dr. Zaius,
etc....)<br><br> Morlock 2001(just WAIT till next
year!!)<br><br>Destructor(STRICTLY for the Ditko/Wood art...I
SWEAR!!!!!)<br><br>Ironjaw(an even LESS politically correct Conan...if such a
thing is POSSIBLE! ;^) )<br><br>Among many OTHERS,
formerly found in the 25-cent bins of MANY a Flea market
and comic shop, provided dat FUNKY 70's(by vision of
guys from the 50's) view of the world...<br><br>...FUN
BOOKS!!!:^)


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Re the " guys from the 50s " comment , Yeah ,
I've often thought that Atlas's talent pool was
heavily what was then the establishment generation of
comics pros , th' generation that only a couple of years
later would start really dying/retiring/going innto
animation , as the " fan "-originating from generation -
th' Byrnes , Perezs...really became " the mainstream
"...Though perhaps you could aruge that their talent base
WAS more th' " new jacks " of 1975...? Anyway ( not
having seen most of 'em FOR YEARS ! ) , I remember the (
or so it seemed to <br>me at th' time ) " violent
enough to start enough to start a new anti-comics
movement " Tigerman - th' first issue , anyway - fondly -
I've often fantasized about bringing him/them back .
Who owns th' stuff ( Characters , stories & art both
published and un , the physical art , proofs/film thereof ,
th' <br>characters/concepts , anything else ! ) ,
anyway ?


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About using the characters, I agree with you there...<br>There's been a couple of 'em I'd like ta take a crack at myself!


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The Comic Marketplace just a few months ago did a
feature on the old 1975 Atlas line. They presented a
completed cover gallery and had a a reasonably complete
article with some data about why the company went
defunct. It seems to be the old story of lack of money and
confused editorial direction. I have contemplated setting
up a club on Yahoo for this neglected group. I lack
scanning capability so it would be very limited. Is there
any interest for an ongoing discussion of the Atlas
line? The fact that no more will be done with any of
these characters seems to limit the conversation.


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Well , I'm interested !!!!!!! Count me in !!!!!!!
" Nothing will ever be done..." , Well , a few
years ago , when I still read " WIZARD " , I saw an
item in their ( so to speak " ) " gossip column " , to
the effect of " people are wondering if the A-S
characters , especially Tigerman , might be tried
again..."...If nothing else , if they're not P . D . by now , I
assume that they'd eventually become so...How about
combining yr. projected group with Skywald , <br>for a
wider spread ? What CM was that in ? When Atlas was out
, I remember a COMICS READER cover reproduction of
a MAD-style , color , comic , that never made it to
th' stands ! That one in there ?<br>I think I used to
see CM , but its one of those mags I don't really see
anymore ! I've kept meaning to write tio Larry Leiber ,
care of KFS , to see if he has any memories of them/if
I can pick his brain...


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The issue was #77 April 2000. It has an oversized
reproduction of the cover to "Planet of Vampires" #1 as the
front cover.<br>I'll do a bit more research and measure
the interest before attempting anything formally. I
don't want to create yet one more Web location nobody
goes to or goes to very little. <br>I feel the reason
that this club is so alive is that there are many
generations of Charlton fans from multiple points of entry
who bring a varied take on the characters. Atlas
seems just a bit narrow.<br>Larry Lieber was
interviewed recently on Seaboard and he had little to say
suggesting that he didn't want to say anything if he
couldn't say something mostly positive. The interview was
in one of the TwoMorrows publications I
believe.<br>Just for the record my favorite Atlas character was
the Grim Ghost. I feel Ernie Colon did some of his
most energetic work on this strange little book.


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If you want " another Web location...nobody goes
to " , check out , here on Yahoo! , this " Star
Comics Official Page "...( ...Almost certainly NOT that
80s Marvel kiddie line that went by the name...)
Besides the guy whose company it apparantly belongs to ,
I appear 2 B the only member !!!!!!! <br>
TwoMorrows the " Jack Kirby Collector " people ? I had a
grudge going against them , but , they DO appear 2 B
publishing <br>some appetizing stuff , so...<br> A-S sure
had a LOT OF titles that other people used , or they
took from other people , didn't they ? ( Literally ,
<br>TITLES ! )..." PHOENIX/PROTECTOR "..." P.O.T. VAMPIRES "
( There's an Italian movie from the Sixties of that
title ( For its American issue ! )<br>that I've never
seen , and I wonder...)..." GRIM GHOST "...( There was
a REALLY minor GA DC character , called The Gay
Ghost , originally...Yes , hee , hee , hee , I
know...that's been titled " GRIM Ghost " ( sort of a
mini-capsule history of comics right there ! ) , whenever he's
mede his EXTREMELY rare latter-day DC appearences - he
was a Spanish Armada-era period character , so...)
<br> The Flisher GG certainly was a conceptually
whacked-out character . He had to kill evildoers so Satan
could put them in Hell ! Why ? Because <br>Old Scratch
had to<br>keep a soul flow order going ?????


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Subject: Peter Cannon-Thunderbolt
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I was thinking of picking up some of the old
Charlton issues of this character and was wondering if
anyone here would recommend them. I know next to nothing
about the artist (Pat or Pete Morisi I believe) and was
wondering if he was much good,<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Hi bud, Some of the issues of Charlton during
that time period was as good if not better than what
DC or Marvel was putting out. There was some junk
but the CHarlton super heroes were not, I feel that
that was their peak. Thunderbolt's art wasn't the
greatest but was unique. It wasn't like anyone elses. I'll
see if I can temporary post a few pages to give you
an idea. I think I might have a few dupes if you
would be interested.<br>Take care,<br>Don


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Grim Ghost of the Seaboard persuasion was very
similar. I was unaware of the previous Golden-age
character until I very recently picked up some back issues
of Secret Origins which had the Gay/Grim Ghost
featured. Clearly the Atlas people were well aware of the
original.<br><br>You have convinced me. I will begin the
Atlas-Seaboard Club if I can master the the requsite computer
skills. I think this location should be for Charlton talk
only.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:42:21 -0700
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I have just finised creating a new home for all
of us who wish to talk about the Atlas comics of the
mid-70's. I am inspired by the wonderful work done on this
page and hope that those of you who visit here and
have something to add on that subject will hop
over.<br>From this point I pledge to only talk Charlton here
(for the most part anyway).


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:54:22 -0700
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If I ever get my hands on a scanner, I'll have to
scan all my Atlas Comics covers. I once tried
collecting every Atlas Comic I could get my hands on, good
or bad, and I have quite a collection of
them.<br><br>Doc


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BTW, what's the URL for your club, SOV?<br><br>DQ


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Thanks. I just a few minutes ago was pricing some scanners with a friend and I may just have to get one.  But anything you can do I would very much appreciate.<br><br>Kaji Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


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I have already entered the address onto the links
page. I just tested it and it does take you there, or
at least it took me there. This dang computer stuff
still seems like magic to an old goober like
myself.<br><br>Kaji Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


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Trus....whoops, Doc ;^) I used to have QUITE a
PILE a' dem buggers TOO...but they were LOST in the
Not-So-Great GDL collection purge of
'98.<br>#$#$^%(%(%##%&*%@@#%...DANGED guitar habit!!!:^(<br><br><br>&lt;&lt;If I ever
get my hands on a scanner, I'll have to scan all my
Atlas Comics<br> covers. I once tried collecting every
Atlas Comic I could get my hands<br> on, good or bad,
and I have quite a collection of them.&gt;&gt;


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Thanks for the opinion on Thunderbolt Don, I've
actually told a local dealer I would buy some issues from
him (they seem reasonably priced).What confused me
though was the fact he has issue 1 and then it seems to
jump up to issue 51,did Thunderbolt take over some
already existing title or do issues 2 to 50 of
Thunderbolt exist?<br>Regards,<br>Stephen.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:17:56 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
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Was there an original Charlton TERRY/PIRATES
comic ? 1947 ? That's , basically , anyway , AFTER
Milton Caniff's run , considered the " classic " time ,
ended...Aannd , th' strip started , very much pre-WWII , as the
adventures of knicker-clad adolescent Terry , fighting ,
actually , pirates...it evolved into a
WWII/military/espionage strip by Pearl Harbor , with Terry (
realistically/in calender time ! )<br>aged into joining-the-Arny
age.......?<br> The Charlton family...? IS Charlton still going (
for non-comic books . ) ? I ASSUME they still are ,
but...The last Char. magazine I've seen's been " Hit
Parader " , and I haven't seen that for a year or more
?<br> Charlton's distribution/pricing...I once saw a
ret. , of Ch.'s hot-rod titles , say ( to approximate
! ) " Charlton comics tended to turn up , not at
the newsstand where the cther comics were sold , but
in the two-for-ten ( or fifteen , or
twelve...)-cents bins at Woolworth's ( oe similar ! )..." Any
truth to this , in your recollection ? Not me , plus
I'm jus' a WEE bit too young , but...<br> The link to
th' SPACE: 1999 page I mentioned is at www.about.com
, look under Hobbies , for Comic Collecting...I
assume that will be sufficient !<br>I DON'T have a
computer myself , and , I'm DEFINITELY not able to put up
a <br>link myself !!!!!!!


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Subject: Hypnosis in Comics and Captain Atom
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I found a new Charlton site (I think). Of all
things there is a site that discusses Hypnosis in
comics. It is pretty thorough and along with the usual
mass of Marvel and DC sightings my cursory scan found
a Captain Atom reference. I will add the link.


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Hi bud, basically speaking, the #1 was an oddity.
Publishers used to change titles rather that start a new
series due to postal permits and things of that nature.
The second story was Thunderbolt #51 which took over
the spot and numbering of Son of Vulcan.In ussue #60,
the Prankster took over the book. THe book had a
fairly decent back up called the Sentinels. #57 and 58
were reprinted by Modern Comics. #57 was also unique
since Morisi didn't do the art or cover.<br>On a side
note, I came across a Charlton comic that had a reprint
of Children of Doom, I hadn't been aware that it had
been reprinted. Talk about a sale, I was lucky
tonight, Four issues of Prince Valiant by Foster for a
buck total! The Prisoner mini for 25 cents each!
Tomahawk #82 $4.<br>I found another book I didn't know
existed, A Now edition of G-8 and his Battle Aces, 25
cents! Then I ruined the day by picking up 6 packs of
Pokemon cards.....


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Note on Thunderbolt #60. There is still a lead Thunderbolt story by Gill(I think)and Boyette.<br>The Prankster story is the back-up.


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...What was th' Children Of Doom reprint in ? One
of A-Plus/ACG's books ? Incidentally , I only became
aware of th' derivation of O'Neil's monicker Sergus
O'Shaugnessy( sic? ) recently...Another timeline
question...What's Charlton-esque about " DOC SAVAGE " ? I'm not
aware that they ever published it . Are you , perhaps ,
even , deciding 2 count the <br>more " simplified " "
superheroesque " comics version of Doc Savage that I'm aware ,
anyway , that Street & Smith's comics division published
in the 1940s , as a Char-verse Doc Savage ?...


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Subject: Professionals and Early Charlton
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I am currently doing a chronological reading of
many of the old Charlton books. I have been struck on
this reading of the number of future pros who show up
in the letter pages. Of course Roy Thomas broke in
on Son of Vulcan and Blue Beetle. Also there is
early costume design shown and credited to Dave Cockrum
(for redesigning Son of Vulcan) and Alan Weiss (for
offering a redesign of Blue Beetle).<br>Of course this has
never been a secret but it fun to see the flourishing
fandom of the day beginning to participate. Some people
say this was the beginning of the end as it brought
about a diminishing of professionalism but I can't
really agree.<br>The CPL Gang would do this again in the
mid-70's.<br>Charlton proved itself time and again to be a training
ground for large numbers of pros. I think that as much
as anything is what the industry misses about the
Derby publisher.<br>On a related note there is a tryout
page in one of the Hamster Press Fandom comics
collections (2nd one I think) featuring a Thomas and Sam
Grainger take on Son of Vulcan. It looked really nice and
made me at least wonder about a missed possiblity.
<br>Kaji Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


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Children of Doom was reprinted at least once in
the late 70's in a magazine labled Space War. I
forget the number but I think it was in the low
30's.<br>Don't know nuthin' about Chartlton and Doc Savage. Now
I have something to research.<br><br>Kaji
Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


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I thought this might be food for
thought:<br><br>What character fought both Judomaster and Sarge Steel,
but at different times?<br><br>Restrict responses to
only Charlton appearances.<br>(In other words, DC and
AC comic appearances are not factored into this.)


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:08:53 -0700
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Subject: " PHANTOM " postings !
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What's the address to E that <br>Australian "
PHANTOM " site the<br>timeline links to ? My <br>computer
WON'T do that <br>" Click here to E-mail us ! " , and I
just tried , using what I thought was th'
E-dress...<br>and it got returned .


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My point was that that timeline...which
apparently decided to count every outside/liscenced
adventure character that Charlton ever published - fine (
When did Char. do Lance O'Casey , however ? )
-<br>listed " TERRY AND THE PIRATES " and <br>" DOC SAVAGE "
, which I <br>wasn't aware that Charlton had ever
done comic books of . ( Re-read my <br>posts for other
details . )


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Subject: Pat Boyette Obit ?
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Can someone give me at least an exact death date <br>, age , for Pat Boyette ?


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I hope I haven't overstepped my bounds any, but I've uploaded a few more links in the links section...<br><br>--Eric


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The next issue of Comic Book Artist is going to
be completely about the silver age of Charlton. I
know they've at least interviewed Bob Layton and Steve
Skeates, and subpoenaed all of Layton's collection to get
pictures and stuff from. CBA's a pretty good magazine,
they could use better grammatical editors, but their
heart is in the right place.<br><br>--Eric


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Subject: COMIC BOOK ARTIST TO DO CHARLTON ISSUE!
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I cannot recommend these magazines enough.  If they do for Charlton what they have done for 70's Marvel we will learn a lot about the way these wonderful books were concocted.


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I can find NO evidence that Charlton ever
produced any Doc Savage material. The listing is likely a
simple error. Though it may be an attempt to link Doc
through Tarzan and Sherlock Holmes by the Wold-Newton
Theory, but that would open the door for lots of others
who aren't on the list.


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The Don Newton link is a Great Charlton site.


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I'm really looking forward to this magazine,due
to my limited knowledge of Charlton's publishing
history it should be informative.I suppose Ditko won't be
interviewed though,which is a crying
shame.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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I was reading a episode of the Question (in the
back of Blue Beetle #2) and one of the characters seem
to resemble Lucille Ball of "I Love Lucy" fame. Does
anyone know if there is anything to confirm
this?<br>Was(is) Ditko a fan or something?<br>It's got me looking
for other lookalikes now as I read Ditko stories. It
had never crossed my mind that his characters ever
looked like anything except his own idiosyncatic view of
the world.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:22:59 -0700
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Subject: AC Comics and Femforce
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I have always thought of Bill Black's little firm
as the successor to Charlton. Not only did they
attempt to get the Charlton properties, but even after
those went to DC, AC continued to produce comics in
some of the various genres that Charlton had
maintained. I can hardly think of a western outside of Jonah
Hex that AC didn't publish. The anthology horror
comic has all but disappeared. Is there a war comic out
there?<br><br>Anyway, is there any interest in a group to discuss the
various AC products. I'm a little leary of such a place
because the AC books attract a rather unseemly group of
fans of various unusual (and oddly specific) sexual
interests. I don't want to gab with folks more intersted in
odd bits of wet clothing than the actual comics
themselves. <br><br>Is there an interest?


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Subject: Re: Pat Boyette Obit ?
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According to the interview in issue 221 of The Comics Journal Boyette passed away on January 14.


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...Thank you 4 th' info , I'm gonna send it on 2
that Australian Phantom site ( which DOESN'T! like
Boyette's Phantom artwork , however . )...I could've used
age , etc....I ASSUME 'twas 2000...<br>Will George
Wildman be talked-to by CBA ?...


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...Perhaps my " thank you " was too informal ?...


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Subject: Wildman to be in Comic Book Artist Issue
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According to the promo in issue #8 the Charlton
interviews in the 9th issue of Comic Book Artist
are:<br>Dick Giordano(also cover artist)<br>Nick Cuti<br>Jim
Aparo<br>Joe Staton<br>Frank McLaughlin<br>John
Byrne<br>Willie Franz<br>Sam Glanzman<br>Joe Gill<br>Bob
Layton<br>Bill Black<br>Warren Sattler<br>Pat Morisi<br>Tom
Sutton <br>George Wildman <br>and others.<br>The
magazine has a habit of over advertising but I hope most
of these make the cut. I'm looking forward to the
Gill interview myself.


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This issue features a spotlight on the golden age
Blue Beetle, including some information on his comics
in the 50s as published by Charlton Comics after
they got the character from Fox. Anyways, it's a
fascinating read. If there's enough interest here, I may
consider quoting some of the major points...<br><br>Doc


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Steve,<br><br>By all means, pick up some issues
of 'Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt' if you have the
chance. I like PAM's artwork quite a bit, although it may
be an acquired taste. I think Thunderbolt is a very
under-rated character and I recommend the book.<br><br>Jon


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I am just finishing a wonderful reread of the
Thunderbolt issues and I couldn't agree more. These are gems.
I noticed in the Thunderbolt letter pages an awful
lot of complaint about the lack of action on the
covers. I think PAM's covers for this series are
elegant.<br>Pat Boyette shines on his issues too. These are not
lesser books by any means.


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If I remember correctly, and I may not, the Smiling Skull fought both Judomaster and Sarge Steel. Am I right?<br><br>Jon


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That's who I was thinking of.  Congrats!<br><br>Has the Smiling Skull shown up in the DC universe anywhere?  He was a villian with great potential.


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Sorry, I forgot to include his age,he was 77 (facts again courtesy of issue 221 of The Comics Journal).


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I just uploaded the cover to Mysterious Suspense
# 1 starring The Question.<br><br>This comic is
being republished next week as a DC Millennium
Edition.<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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...Uh , you obviously did some sort of scan that
WASN'T! really an exact copy of the cover itself...no
Code seal , for one , and a generally more " misty "
look to it...but , I AM! pleased/shocked to find that
DC'll be re-publishing MS #1...A while back , on th' DC
Web site , I voted 4 thaa SPACE ADVENTURES that
intro'd Captain Atom...Did THAT one make it ? Was it ALL
C. A. , incidentally , or , as an anthology book ,
did it have one-or-two non-series stories , to back
up C . A .?...in which case , DC would have to own
THOSE! stories , too ! I've been meaning 2 say sumethin'
'bout th' 'C Milleniums , which've been <br>suprisingly
neat-o !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - And may say more later ,
probably on another page !!!!!


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&lt;&lt;...Uh , you obviously did some sort of
scan that WASN'T! really an exact copy of the cover
itself...no Code seal , for one , and a generally more "
misty " look to it...&gt;&gt;<br><br>Actually, I picked
it up from dccomics.com. Blame them.
;-)<br><br>&lt;&lt;A while back , on th' DC Web site , I voted 4 thaa
SPACE ADVENTURES that intro'd Captain Atom...Did THAT
one make it ? &gt;&gt;<br><br>I'm pretty sure that it
did not get selected, but I couldn't tell you which
comic did make the cut.<br><br>Bruce


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The first appearance of Captain Atom featured two
non-series tales "The Galactic Scourge" and "Captive World".
Another fun detail, Cap's costume is gold on the cover
but a light blue in the story. Oddly the Cap story
isn't the lead but appears in the middle of the book.


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It's of Steve Whitaker's version of the Charlton heroes, as shown in some kind of British comic convention program.<br><br>--Eric


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Eric,<br><br>thanks for posting those scans. Nice one of the Question by the way.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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I found a error in the Earth-4 timeline; one that
I have repeated unfortunately. The cat companion of
13 in the last Captain Atom issue (#89) was not
named "Jinx", but rather "Faustus".<br>While this is of
no real importance, I report only for the sake of
accuracy. I know Vic Sage would be proud.<br><br>Kaji
Dha,<br>SonofVulcan


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Subject: Help Identify Charlton Ghostly Hosts?
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I am trying to identify as many of Charlton's
scary comic anthology hosts as I can. The ones I have
identfied so far are:<br>Ghost Manor-Mr.Bones<br>Ghostly
Tales-Mr.L.Dedd<br>Ghostly Haunts-Winnie the Witch<br>Haunted-Impy(a little
ghost figue)<br>Baron Weirwulf's Haunted Library-Baron
Weirwulf<br>(I know the last two are really the same
magazine)<br>Creepy Things-Dee Munn<br>Beyond the Grave-Mortimer
Tishin<br>Monster Hunters-Colonel Whiteshroud<br>Scary
Tales-Countess R.H.Von Bludd<br>The Many Ghosts of
Dr.Graves-Dr.M.(Milo)T.(Tempus)<br>Graves<br>Midnight Tales-Professor Coffin the Midnight Philosopher
and Arachne<br>Tales of the Mysterious
Traveler-Mysterious Traveler<br><br>The following ones I'm unsure
about:<br>Ghost Manor-the Old Witch with the eye patch( was she
just the Old Witch or was there a name)<br>Strange
Suspense Stories-a figure in a black shroud<br>Unlikely
Tales(Charlton Premiere#4)-several hosts but only one I can
name-Bella Von Drak<br><br>Now I know this list is
incomplete and I would very much like any help in firming it
up. If you spot an error or know more please let me
know.<br><br>Thanks in Advance,<br>SonofVulcan


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From Atomic Comic's preview of the Law, Charlton bios...everybody but the frickin' Question!<br><br>--Eric


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E-mail Mikel Midnight about it. His e-mail should
be listed on his comics index
page:<br><br><a href=http://www.best.com/~blaklion/comics.html target=new>http://www.best.com/~blaklion/comics.html</a><br><br>I've corresponded with him about various other things,
and he's always responded well to corrections and/or
suggestions...<br><br>Doc


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Great. I guess I didn't realize he was so directly responsible for the timeline.<br><br>Dean


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Yeah, Mikel's very receptive to suggestions,
corrections, etc. He prides himself on having the smallest
nit-pickiest details right, so he'd be thrilled to have this
correction made, along with any others you might find. I
know that the E-4 timeline is a big work in progress,
I have some drafts from back when we were going to
work on a Charlton Comics webpage, and it's grown alot
because of people like you. His e-mail's
blaklion@best.com<br><br>--Eric


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It's all coming together, now... heh-heh... soon
all the Charlton Links on the Web will be MINE!!!
Ah-ha-ha-haaaaa!<br><br>*turns head to notice everyone staring at
him*<br><br>Oh... heh... I was just admiring the size of the Links
page... don't worry about me... I just haven't been
getting enough sleep, lately. Too busy working on my
various clubs, newsgroups, and
webpages...<br><br>Doc<br>(who really ISN'T crazy... honest...)


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Doc,<br><br>I just found out recently when I
tried to install a 101st link at "atomicgoldandsilver"
that there is a limit on links. You can put up 100
links and no more. You know what that means don't you?
Ultimately, there will be 101 links you'll want to
install.<br><br>Sad but maybe
true,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/goldenagers target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/goldenagers</a>


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Subject: What's the Opinion on the WATCHMEN?
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I am just beginning to read again the Watchmen. I
have completed a chronological reading of the 60's
Action Heroes and I thought with that fresh on my mind
it would be a good time read the version of the
Charlton heroes found in Moore and Gibbons famous work. I
am making connections I missed on previous readings.
I checked a Watchmen site to verify the identities
of the main characters. The list is as
follows:<br><br>The Comedian-Peacemaker<br>Blue Beetle-Nite
Owl<br>Dr.Manhattan-Captain Atom<br>Rorschach-The Question<br>Silk
Spectre-Nightshade.<br><br>I have always been taken aback by the lack of
respect that the Peacmaker gets. I loved Boyette's
original work and I don't find Christopher Smith's
motivation anymore peculiar than any other vigilante.<br>I
have read that Moore originally wanted to use the
actual Charlton characters but because of DC plans had
to create dopplegangers. I'm glad because after this
production the characters would have been lost to us
forever. That is not a cut on the work, which is superb,
but rather a reflection that I'm glad my ox didn't
get gored.<br>Anyway. What's the opinion out there on
the Bullseye about the mid-80's take on some of our
iconic heroes?<br><br>SonofVulcan


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Actually,I read The Watchmen without knowing, at
the time, that they were based on the Charlton
heroes. Watchmen was (and is) probably the single biggest
reason I'm still reading comics today. That may sound
over the top but I was at an age,about 13 or 14, when
most comics seemed immature or pretentious and The
Watchmen tradepaperback was just amazing. I can still
re-read it and find new aspects that I'd missed
previuosly and there's not much been published since I can
say that about.<br> I guess some people may feel
Moore and Gibbons were treating the characters with
disrespect, I think they should see Moore's Twilight proposal
and be thankful Blue Beetle,The Question,Peacemaker
and co got off so lightly!<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Ouch. Well, I guess by the time that comes around
(and I hope it does -- Charlton definitely doesn't get
enough representation on the web, yet), I'll put up a
mega-size page of links with every Charlton link here, and
take down all but the most major ones on this site to
make room for any more to be posted. And I'd do the
same for the other clubs I founded.<br><br>Doc


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Doc,<br><br>that's a smart plan. I'm already
faced with having to pick and choose and I'm not
listing any yahoo clubs in my links, I also had to parse
them out of Golden Agers which was getting close to
the limit too. Eric/Steve Rogers has offered to put
up any of the Golden Agers' excess links over at his
golden years site but I've culled those back down to 84,
so we have some breathing room over there. Two
months ago, I didn't think there was a links limit and
if I had known there was, I would have guessed the
JSAAA would have hit it before anyone else. Shows where
peoples real interests lie.<br><br>Let everyone know when
you do get your website up and running. If I come
across any Charlton links, I'll put them up over
here.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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I was well aware of who was suppossed to be who
when I read the Watchmen, and it didn't effect my
enjoyment a bit. I guess the people over at DC freaked out
when Moore told them what he wanted to do with their
newly acquired characters though. Consequently, we got
the near thing instead of the genuine item. Actually
I'm glad Moore had to go with the near thing,
although not much of any significance has been done with
the Charlton characters. We can only hope someone
will. It's the lesser unused characters (Tyro Team,
Michael Mauser, Spookman, Sentinels, etc.) that I would
like to see developed.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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I try not to be suprised, but the other day I
came across an item on Ebay that did. The book appears
to be a Charlton and features a character named
Mercury Man. Now a little bell went off in my head. I
remember hearing the name but had never found a copy. To
make a long story short, I am bidding on it and if
successful will share. Look!!! Up in the sky!!! It aint no
bird, it aint no plane!!! It's Mercury Man!!!


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I actually have a Mercury Man. He apparently
appeared in Space Adventures BEFORE Captain Atom made his
debut. I have one issue, I think there were two. As I
write this I don't have access to my collection but He
had pointed ears I think and a light blue costume. I
remember it being not to bad and I have always wondered
why he has NEVER surfaced anywhere else(at least to
my knowledge).<br><br>Dean


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I'm working on my GeoCities page right now, actually... I'll surely let you know about it when it's ready.<br><br>Doc


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"Watchmen" is simply the single best comic series
EVER! <br><br>In fact, I think the Charlton heroes
probably have benefitted by some reflected glory from
their doppelgangers, moreso than the Watchmen are
basking in the light of the originals. "The L.A.W." mini
may have so disappointed so many simply because they
were hoping for a Watchmen type event. A hard act to
follow, you must admit.<br><br>Obviously, as a fan of
these characters, I'm glad that close analogs were
developed for Watchmen so Cap Atom, BB, and company weren't
lost to the main DCU. Also thematically, I think the
Watchmen series benefitted from the glomming on of certain
other iconic character traits-- the Superman motifs
personified by Dr. Manhattan, the Batman stuff grafted onto
Nite-Owl, the GA/SA Black Canary riff on Silk Spectre, the
Minuteman/JSA pastiche, etc. These all resulted in a deeper,
more textured and accessible universe. (and BTW, if
that wasn't Barry Allen's crewcut on Dr. Manhattan's
secret ID, I'll eat my yellow winged boots!)<br><br>I
hear DC Direct will be doing Watchmen action figures
next year. Do you suppose we'll ever get figures of
the real Charlton characters?
;-)<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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I'm nearly done with this read of the Watchmen,
and while I am not so nearly gun-ho on the group as
some I must say that the Charlton references are
thicker than I remember. Coming off a fresh reading of
those works really prepared me to catch the little nods
that Moore throws into his stews.<br><br>SonofVulcan


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It just came out at your local comic shop this
WEEK!<br><br>The ENTIRE book is devoted to Steve Ditko's
QUESTION!<br><br>Some classic Ditko art, and a much MILDER Randian
slant than his later Mister A. stories.


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It's very good, no doubt. I was somewhat
disturbed by the muddy quality of the reprint. This is some
of Ditko's best work and his clean lines are fuzzy.
<br> <br>Muchly recommended, if you have never seen
this comic before. Even recommended if you have, but
not so much.<br><br>It just reminds me how much good
Charlton material is waiting for reprint. ACG is hit and
miss. I dream of seeing the Blue Beetles in a trade
paperback, or for that matter Judomaster.<br>A best of the
ghost stories of Stive Ditko might sell a few copies
too.<br><br>SonofVulcan


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Subject: DC Go-Go Checks Club !!!!!!!
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What was its ADD. ? ( Not to be confused with
Charlton's Go-Go , Uv Cawss !!!!!!! - Incidentally , I saw
the comics shop catalog , and ACG has a reprint of
that Jim Aparo-drawn humor comic coming up , topically
calling it<br>" Yeaaahhh , Baabyy !!!!! " , or similar -
say that w/a imitation British accent ! )


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While I have reservations about the printing of
the Millenium Edition-Mysterious Suspense, it was
very nice to see the big red Charlton "C" on the
stands again and not lurking in a box hidden among all
the other comics from bygone days.<br><br>The little
essay on the inside covers was very respectful and
informative.<br><br>SonofVulcan


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Subject: ACG Reprints...
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...That offer ( I'm SURE ! ) Charlton reprints
,<br>( mostly ! ) as back-ups to non " C " thaanggs
.<br> I promised an index to th' ones I happened 2 B
able 2 get recent-like , which follows : <br> All b&w
, standard-size 32 page , $2.95 !<br><br><br> PULP
ACTION #4 . Reprints of " SHADOW " newspaper strip ,
dailies , uncredited , <br>looks 1940s/30s , Ledger
Syndicate . 22 pages .<br>1 & 1/2 strips per page . Back-up
,<br>" The Cat-Lover " , mystery story , uncredited ,
<br>8 pages . All Contents (C) 2000 ACG Comics " .<br>
<br><br> " " #6 . - " SHADOW " , as before , 18 pages .
Back-up , " Safe Behind Bars " , mystery story with
female horror host , 9 pages . " All material is (C)
2000 Avalon Communications " .<br><br> A COP CALLED
TRACY #14 . 1949/50 <br>Tracy reprints ,
dailies/Sundays , Dick/Tess Tracy honeymoon and villian Wormy ,
by Chester Gould .<br>31 & 3/4 pages . 3 dailies per
page , Sundays approx. 1 & 3/4 pages . Tracy (C)
Tribune Media , " All other material is (C) 2000
<br>Roger Broughton . "<br> <br><br> CRIMEBUSTER #1 .
D.Locher/M.A.Collins Dick Tracy<br> reprints , from 1986 , Vitamin
Flintheart and villian Upward Lee-Mobile ( Comic gives story
<br>title ! ) , dailies/Sundays ? 20 pages . Can't as
easily tell daily/Sunday difference , less consistent in
panel size/reproduction ? Back-up , " Mr. Blanque " ,
mystery story w/same horror host as <br>" P . A . #6 " ,
8 pages , Abel-Cuti . <br>Same copyright credits
split as above .<br> <br><br> TERRY AND THE PIRATES #4
( Incidia adds <br>" CLASSIC " . ) . - 1935 daily
strips , by Milton Caniff , 2 per page , <br>must turn
side-ways . 25 pages , Page 1 splash <br>( only same detail
as used on cover . ) . Pat and <br>Terry did not
meet <br>for the first time in 1947 !!!!! Back-up , 5
page<br>story , " The Real War , by Sam Glanzman .<br>" TERRY "
copyrighted Trib Media , etc. , " All<br>other material is
(C) 2000 Rodger Broughton . "<br> <br><br><br><br>
How's that ?


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What is the current fate of the remarkable
Charlton artist and writer Sanho Kim?<br>His work was
ahead of its time, and his distinctive pencils can be
recognized and appreciated from across the room.<br><br>He
is one of my favorites. What has become of
him?<br><br>SonofVulcan


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...I seem to recall reading that<br>he returned
to ( South ! Well , use that while it's still
relevant...) Korea...if , indeed , he ever left , didn't he do
his work via mail ?...<br>Or , anyway ,
Korean-industry work , comics , or , otherwise ?<br> Does the
MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE reprint have the same cover that I
commented on when repro-d here ?<br> It , somehow , didn't
( " OUR " <br>repro ! ) " LOOK " like mid-60s Ditko
- Besides , I somehow r'member th' " MS " cover
being a multi-paneled , two-level , affair...I
COULD<br>be wrong !...........


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It is the same cover as I have on my copy of Mysterious Suspense. It is most likely the angle which is making it seem wrong. I know the New Gods issue looked peculiar to me.<br><br>Dean


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Subject: You are Invited to SONS of KONG!
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I would like to invite anyone who is a member of
this club or who just may be visiting to try out a new
club,"The SONS of KONG". If you like GIANT apes (or apes of
any kind)or GIANT monsters in movies or comics or TV
give this location a try.<br><br>"Konga" fans are
especially invited to participate.<br><br>The address
is:<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sonsofkong target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sonsofkong</a>


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Subject: Howdy Anejako
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Welcome to the Charlton Bullseye. Glad to see you join up as we can always use new blood here. Feel free to jump in and post. Any favorite Charlton titles or characters?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:48:20 -0700
Subject: Captain Cosmos by Cuti and Staton!New?!
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I just saw an ad in the latest Comic Shop News
advertising what seems to be a new "Captain Cosmos-The Last
Starveyer" by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton.<br><br>I have a
couple of these from several years ago and they are very
much in the flavor of the work done by this team at
Charlton in the 70's.<br>Joe Staton is a very underrated
artist. Nicola Cuti is a writer with a unique worldview.
<br><br>I have no info on the series outside of this one ad
except for the publisher which is Quantum
Comics.<br><br>For what it's worth,<br>SonofVulcan


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...By/Way , th' recent ( retro-Seventies ! ) "
JUSTICE LEAGUE/ SOCIETY 100 PG.-ER from DC has a new!
Staton piece as th' frontipiece ( 'zat th' riighht word
? ) , an illo/drawing of th' Justice Society ( more
or less ! ) !!!!!!!


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Subject: Big Red 
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Just a note for anyone who might miss it
otherwise, the Big Red Charlton "C" is currently on display
at Scott Shaw's Oddball comics.<br>The featured
comic is Partridge Family #4.<br>Yah, I know, but a
Charlton happening is such a rarity. Check the archives of
Oddball as Charlton is represented several
times.<br><br>Enjoy!<br>Dean


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Subject: OOPs!!!Oddball Address!
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I forgot to give the address for Oddball.<br>It is:<br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball</a>


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Those "Oddballs" appear daily and always include
funny commentary from Scott Shaw! (artist on DC's old
Captain Carrot and His Amazing Zoo Crew
book.<br><br>Check 'em out. I visit each day for a
chuckle!<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Yep. I've got CBR listed as Link #14 on the Links page...<br><br>Hey, this is post #200, good show!<br><br>Doc


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Subject: Comics Advertising...
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..I've been thinking a lot lately 'bout
advertising in comic books...Th' discussion of it tends 2 B
caught by nostalgia 4 Charles Adams and<br>so
forth...Well , Chuck was awreddy sorta past his prime by/time
I was reading so...I'm gonna do some commentin' ,
based on th' Aug. 2000 DC's I've actually looked thru ,
plus informal referencing 2 da uddeerr
stuffihaveonhand...Ther's only 3? , really , " reg'lr " comicks compny's
left , that carry lotsa ads ( in thhaaa <br>"
traditional " style ) , and have <br>noosstand dist. , so...


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Subject: Rog 2000!pronunced [Rawj]!!!
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I was prowling through my collection and I found
a great magazine-size reprint collection of John
Byrne's "Rog 2000". This is character who never was able
to fulfill his potential. A robot in a world he
never made was the general premise and the series is
one of the funniest I have come across. I rarely
laugh at loud at comics, but the Rog series has several
guffaws waiting for the unwary reader. The art is prime
pre-Marvel Byrne. Byrne is on record as really being
disdainful of his early work ( I can understand his
position) but I feel that he has lost some of the energy in
his more recent work that is to be found in abundance
in his Charlton stuff and Rog in particular. The
panels are jumping in these stories. Rog 2000 is a
classic character and I feel is a character who could be
a success in today's market. <br><br>The character
is on display in the Pacific Comics reprint. The
series was originally in later issues of E-Man and a few
show up in the fanzine Bullseye. I know the character
has a few cameos in bogus ads and things too done by
the CPL Gang.<br><br>If you haven't sampled Rog it's
a treat. If you have what do you think? Am I
swooning over nothing here or what?<br><br>By the way
"Rog" is pronounced [RAWJ]. I got this wrong for years.
Hey I still say "MagnEHto". I guess after the movie
I'll have to stop that nonsense.<br><br>Dean


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Subject: Cheeks Rant On Charlton Fightin'Marines!
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Cheeks the Toy Wonder (gotta' love him)is
currently taking Charlton's "Fightin' Marines" to task for
one its less traditional stories from the fabulous
'60's.<br><br>The feature is full of typical Cheeks Rant and is
chock full of Nick Alascia artwork. He doesn't like the
story, but a Charlton fan has learned to take any
attention he can get.<br><br>Dean (Your Loyal Son of
Vulcan)<br><br>The address
is:<br><a href=http://toywonder.simplenet.com/SlowWarComics1.htm target=new>http://toywonder.simplenet.com/SlowWarComics1.htm</a>


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Subject: What's the Deal on ACG?
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ACG (I think I have that right) has the rights to
publish from the Charlton backlist. Clearly the rights to
the Action heroes went to DC. Pete Morisi apparently
holds the rights to Thunderbolt.<br>E-Man is held
jointly by Nick Cuti and Joe Staton (or maybe Staton has
them alone). Outside of these specific cases (and
obviously the licensed characters like Phantom and Popeye)
did all the Charlton material fall into the
possession of ACG?<br><br>Who is ACG? What is ACG? They
publish old comic strips and then slap Charlton material
into the back as filler. There is some good stuff
hidden in some of these, but the asking price of $2.95
per copy is a bit steep for random black&white
reprints in my estimation.<br><br>Does anyone of the
learned souls out there have the story on
this?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Dean (your friendly SonofVulcan)


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...Ditko apparently took ( or , bought back , as
with E- , and Thunder-...) Killjoy , but , also ,
there's this guy who bought - just ONE , apparently , -
of the Charlton romance titles , and has a thing of
putting , intentionally siily/spoofing , sort of
MST3K-esque , new dialogue in it...It appears in Comic Buyers
Guide sometimes and apparently elsewhere . It looks
like he found a son , or otherwise relative , of our
old boychik A. Machine to letter it !!!!!!!!!
App-<br>arently , some oter things ( By this guy's statement . )
, may've been bought by other peop-<br>le , but I
don'know what...


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Dean,<br><br>AC comics is headed up by Bill Black
(and possibly some other people) and specializes in
using characters who are in the public domain. Occam's
razor would suggest that the most likely reason the
Charlton reprints pop up is because the trademarks on
those characters haven't been exercised in the past
fifteen years and the stories are in public
domain.<br><br>I've never actually seen any of the AC books so I have
no idea what the quality of their product might be.
I know I don't care for Bill Black's 'Fem Force'
female exploitation comics, so I've never considered
buying any of the AC books. Maybe I'm missing out on
something great but I'll take that chance.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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ACG is not AC Comics. I am very familiar with
Bill Black's Florida-based company. I consider them
the company which has been the most like Charlton in
regards to multiple-genre publications since our beloved
Derby,Conn. firm closed its doors. <br><br>This ACG is
something else again. The work is exclusively (now)
black&white. I do have an early effort by them featuring Pete
Morisi's western hero "Lobo" which is beautiful color, but
I haven't seen any color in a long
while.<br><br>Both of the above companies do use public domain
stuff, that's clear. I guess some of the stuff I'm
seeing doesn't seem old enough to be in public domain. I
recognized work by artists from the mid-70's in addition to
work form the '60's.<br>I can only assume they bought
some publication rights. But who is it?<br><br>I was
very reluctant to buy Femforce myself for just the
reason you mentioned. I began collecting them when Dick
Ayers became the regular artist in the mid-90's. The
Femforce title itself is not actually that bad in regards
to the exploitation and what there is, is blunted by
wonderfully fun stories with distincitve characters. I make
no excuses for the obvious pandering that does go on
in some of the publications put out by AC, but along
side that appeal to less than the purest motivations
is some pretty good stories and some very
interesting characters. I must confess that I am a confirmed
Femforce fan these days. I just yesterday found out that
they are beginning a new publishing scheme which will
have them printing only to order and offering no store
sales. The unit prices are steep, but I'm a guy who
bought "DC 2000"; I'm a proven
patsy.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Here in this backwater I never come
in contact with things like ACG Comics. I have seen
an issue or two of various things by AC in the past
and I knew they do a reprint series so I confused the
two. You're right, material from the 60s and 70s
wouldn't be PD; I thought you might be talking about
material from Charlton's first few years, which could be
in public domain.God only knows how many times
certain properties have changed hands since they were
first printed.<br><br>I just don't know the Femforce
series, so I suppose it is good to know that it is better
than it looks. I've checked out the Femforce website
before and there is absolutely no hint there that things
like story quality might even be a consideration. I've
judged them purely on the basis of what they appear to
be promoting and it doesn't look like anything I
would be interested in.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...( I'm SURE! in a hurry now , so this'll be
brief ! )(1) Are you saying you're boycotting ALL! AC
dut to the T&A nature of some of their titles ( lucky
I spelled that right ! ) ? (2) Dis you read my "
book report " on the ACGs ? There seems to be another
post I can't find , you? said " publishing some old
strips & charging $2.95..."<br>I . recently , bought the
first AC I'd seen for a long time , a GA reprint I was
mebbe go comment , 'bout , when I lived in Green Bay ,
Wisconsin , I bought mucho comics , & a fair # of AC...


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Walter,<br><br>I'm not boycotting AC comic's
FemForce so much as I've never seen a copy of the title. I
live in an area where the nearest comics store is a
two-and-a-half hour drive one way, and that store doesn't carry
any AC books. I have been tempted to order some of
the AC books that reprint golden age material but
that's not in my budget right now. I've always assumed
that the FemForce books were of a low writing caliber,
much as most of the titles that featured "good girl
art" in the golden age were. It's only here in the
past few days that I've ever heard anyone suggest that
the books are actually well written. Actually, old
strips for $2.95 seems like a bargain. The prices listed
for current and past copies of AC books on their
website are much more than that; I don't know where you
found that quote, but it's not from me. I've never read
any of the AC reprints, so I'm not likely to comment
on them.<br><br>So anyway, no I'm not boycotting AC
comics or FemForce. I'm much more likely to eventually
acquire some of AC's reprint titles than I am copies of
FemForce however.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...Yeah , so here I wuz , just down , at th'
'puter , fixin' to post , when what does I sees
BUT...yer reply ! (1) I might wanna say some things about
Peanuts...yeah , OT , but...since Charlton published strip-based
comics ( Beetle Bailey , Barney Google/Snuffy S. ) into
the early 70s , they COULDA had a " Peanuts " title ,
ya know...Anyway , call that a set-up .<br>(2) For
coverage of comics , today's ESS EFF<br>CHRONICLE
(www.sfgate.com ) has an article about San Diego - in the
Business section !!!!!!! - <br>thay starts w/an image of ,
a , " forty-yearold Silicon Valley dot-commer " (
who , ME ? , well , now , I wouldn't really say
that...) spending 300 bucks for a new Star Wars light
saber !!!!!!!!!<br>Ah , me . Well , at least they don'
have a " Pow ! Bam ! Zap ! " head ( or headline ) !Not
that bad an article when you read th' 'hole
peanut...'Though I haven't read th' Web voision yet !!!!!!!!!


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That's www.sfgate.com . I guess I'm su'posdta' add<br> dat " ?? " stuff , etcetera ? Geez Louise !


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Your're right about the web-site. It is rarely
changed (they just did) and there is little indication
that more is going on there than T&A.<br><br>I toyed
with the notion of beginning an AC Comics site, but
backed away because some of the fans are really not the
kinds of folks you want to spend time corresponding
with. Let's just say that they don't actually READ the
comics.<br><br>I wouldn't say the Femforce is WELL-written, but I
would say that there is a very 60's70's-retro feel to
the work that I find attractive. The craftsmanship is
way above the average independent, though it can be
incredibly uneven.<br>Black and his cronies have ressurected
dozens of public domain golden-aged heroes and
incorporated them into the storyline. There is a clear
fascination with the female form that seems to get in the way
of the plots, but as I say the audience shows up for
a lot of different reasons.<br><br>Black makes much
of the strong female personalities (and he has a
point) but the visuals undercut much of this
higher-mindedness.<br>But reading any of the issues is much like tearing
into an Avengers or Defenders comic of the early 70's.
Tons of people going and coming and stuff happens to
them. <br><br>The prices are a little much for some of
what you get, but coming off the stands it wasn't too
bad, and I have found several good deals to fill in my
back issues. I just paid more than I'm comfortable
revealing for "Paragon #4" an early Bill Black offering
from the early 70's which features Black's original
character the Shade pencilled by Steranko. This is actually
a fanzine and years away from AC Comics debut in
the independent explosion in the early 80's.<br><br>I
don't really recommend AC at this point (they have all
but closed up shop with new material done on pre-paid
basis), but I would say that few sample issues could be
good. Stay with the later color material, as the
plotlines of the earlier stuff is much more
disjointed.<br><br>Two and a half hours to a store; my heavens I feel
for you. I'm lucky to have several right around me,
but your situation is much like my youth. I had ONE
good newstand and that was pretty much it. (It was one
of those little ones on the sidewalk too;how
quaint.)<br><br>Dean


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...ACG , that's
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG , based in Canada , is th' " $2.95 for old strips
" one !!!!!!!!! BLACK'S AC DOES SEEM 2 be a bit
more expensive , based on my mem. of my recent " first
purchase " , which I dowanna go lookin' 4 now !!!!!<br> I
recently bought th' Ditko/MYSERIOUS SUSPENSE Millien.
Comments ? I apparently had , NOT , read it before .


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What happened! Your "G" is loose!<br><br>If you haven't yet read the Mysterious Suspense I envy you. It is very good Ditko. <br><br>Dean


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I was just over at the Nail News site and they
have a Charlton science fiction story called "The Moon
Men". It is ten pages and the scans are gigantic. The
whole piece is labeled "Plagarism Between Companies". I
don't know what the other company is or what the rest
of the story is.<br><br>Does anyone know the scoop
on this little tale?<br><br>Dean<br><br>The address
is <a href=http://www.nailnews.com target=new>http://www.nailnews.com</a> and the perinent date is
the 23rd.


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It's very very heavy-handed...pure Ditko.
Actually, it's really pure Ayn Rand, a re-worked telling of
The Fountainhead with a faceless crimefighter instead
of a Frank Lloyd-Wright-esque
architect.<br><br>--Eric


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Dean,<br><br>I read that story yesterday
(actually late last night) and I wondered the same thing. I
don't know the story that the Charlton story is
suppossedly derived from, but I could see where it might be
"borrowed" from one of the EC science-fiction titles.
However, that's just a semi-educated guess on part and I
don't know for a fact that there was an earlier EC
story very much like this one. Hopefully someone else
will know more about this.<br><br>Equally
puzzled,<br>Jon


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I'm not that much of an EC buff, but I would
imagine that would be the source of the complaint.
Frankly most of these stories are so generic I would be
hard pressed to try and nail someone on plagarism.
There were so many stories of this kind that I really
can't understand how you distinguish. Maybe if the two
stories were put side by side one could see
it.<br><br>Dean


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...I've never actually read any Rand...The
story's good...Th' first part's endless series of face
close-ups creates an unusual effect...sort of unlike what
most comics night doo today...Sort of like the "
nightmare/accusation " sequence in Ed Wood's " Glen Or Glenda " , or
Fifties educational films in general?...I wonder what
effect th' outside dialoguer had in smoothing it along
?<br>What might have Ditko put in it , if he'd gotten his
druyhers politically ? Judging from the brief anti-United
Nations stab... Dit.<br>SURE LIKED that "
swinging<br>ties " effect , didn't he ? It wouldn't be as striking
with later , fatter ties I suppose .<br>A Freudian ,
no doubt ,<br>could have a field <br>day with
that...but , " sometimes , a tie is <br>just a tie " , I
suppose !!!!!!!!!<br>He also liked that neck or ankle
s<br> w<br> i<br> n<br> g<br> i<br> n<br> g <br> i<br>
n<br> g<br> <br> j<br> u<br> s<br> t<br> <br> t<br>
h<br> i<br> s<br><br> w <br> a<br> y<br> !<br> angle ,
didn't he ? Hm ! My !


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...I neant to say " druthers " , for one , aannd , th' collater put all of my letters against th' <br>left margin , thus spoiling the intended effect .


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I was wondering if any of my fellow Charltonians
knows anything about the comic "Go-Go"? I know that it
was Chalton's attempt at a mild satire magazine, and
I know it features Jim Aparo's first work. What I
would like to know are other details and if anyone
holds it in especially high regard and if so for what
reason?<br><br>Dean


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...I recall it being a " Swinging Sixties " sort
of ( VERY mild ! ) satire , and , so , I think I
kind of liked the few I ever saw/had? ACG's going to
reprint a related? title " Bikini Luv " , under the
raw-thaaa Austin Powersesque title<br>" YEAH , BABY ! " ,
p'raps including some G-G material ? ( Which I posted up
here B/4 ! )<br>I've always had a <br>certain interest
in the " swinging " , middle-ish<br>Sixties , just
before the , so-called " real Sixties " got started...or
, at least the media version of it !


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Dean,<br><br>Actually EC did plagerise Ray
Bradbury, who caught them on a thinly disguised version of
one of his stories and suggested they might want to
send him a check. EC did and worked out an arrangement
where they adapted Bradbury short stories and splashed
his name prominently on the covers of their
science-fiction books. In the long run, the arrangement was
probably better for Bradbury than for EC. This, of course,
would be the exception. Charlton's science-fiction
books of the fifties and sixties were pretty bad and no
one would probably want to accuse them of stealing
story ideas for fear of being associated with bad
writing. Still, it was one of the Charlton science-fiction
anthology titles that introduced Captain Atom, so if
nothing else, those books did accomplish one decent
thing.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Thanks for the review. I've found a couple of
them and I am debating whether to pop for what the guy
is asking. It's a "fair" price, I just don't know if
I want them that badly. The first Aparo artwork is
a real temptation though.<br><br>Dean


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I've read about the Bradbury thing. I agree about
the writing too. There is just something about the
mindsets and politics of the time that produced such work
that intrigues me. Every alien is a threat or a fool
who is done in by evil mankind. Astronauts are
supposed to be our "best and brightest" and in these
stories they sometimes come off with not only feet of
clay but mud.<br><br>Dean


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Has anyone any information on the current
situations of Tony Tallarico and Bill Fracchio?<br>These two
were the artists on the initial Silver Age run of the
Blue Beetle (archeologist Dan Garret phase). I know
Tony Tallarico is seemingly always taken to task as
the epitomy of what bad comic art is, but I have
always liked the work of these two guys on this book.
The storytelling breaks down sometimes, but there is
a sweep and energetic flow to the work which
overcomes many of the sins. Certainly in a world that bows
to the mutated forms of King Kirby there can be no
criticism of those gigantic thighs that Beetle and Son Of
Vulcan sported. (Arnold Beware!)<br><br>I have
heard,seen,or read nothing on either of these guys in decades
(beyond derisive comments) and I'm just curious. Have
they passed away or like so many pros from this era,
have they fallen victim to forgetfulness on the part
of the fan community?<br><br>Dean<br>(I don't call
myself SonofVulcan for nothin'.)<br><br>P.S. I hope the
upcoming Charlton issue of "Comic Book Artist" will have
answers to lots of questions like these.


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The comic one I mean. I don't think I've seen him since War of the Gods. Is he like Thunderbolt in that DC no longer owns his rights?


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Right here son!<br><br>As far as I know he is
still available to them. They just have no idea what to
do with him. I haven't seen it but I think there is
a story in which he is killed (is that War of the
Gods?).But we know that means nothing if there is a story
idea out there.<br><br>Dean(SonofVulcan)


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The August issue of "Comic Book Artist" (#9) is
on the stands and while I haven't read any of it
yet, let me share what's on the cover. There is a
fantastic Dick Giordano cover featuring Sarge Steel,Captain
Atom,Blue Beetle(Ted
Kord),Nightshade,Peacemaker,Thunderbolt,The Question, Judomaster & Tiger, and in the
background in silhouette are some western stars and what
looks to be the Fightin'5. There are features and
articles on Giordano,
Morisi(P.A.M.),Aparo,Gill,Boyette,Franz,Glanzman, and a special bloody happy face blurb promising
Alan Moore on the Charlton-Watchmen connection. A scan
of the contents page yields up the names of
Santangelo,Skeates,O'Neil,McLaughlin,and Thomas on the secrets of my namesake. A thumb
through the pages convinces me this is the ONE ladies and
gentlemen. So get it if at all possible and
enjoy!<br><br>Kaji Dha,<br>Dean <br>(Your Local SonofVulcan
Reporting.)


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Dean, I hav'nt heard say that in a while. I
remember in one of the many clubs that we're both in
someone mistaked it for you're name so you stoped. By I
always enjoyed seeing it. I did know what it was,
probably from that Gil Kane Secret Origins issue.


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For the record "Kaji Dha!" is the magic phrase
uttered by Dan Garret whenever he wished to become The
Blue Beetle. The phrase is used in the very first
appearance of Charlton's Silver Age take on the venerable
hero.<br><br>You're right, I stopped using it because of an
understandable confusion, but maybe things are firmly
established enough now that I can again sing out those
immortal words with pride.(At least here at the
Bullseye.)<br><br>KAJI DHA !!!!!<br>Dean (YOUR Friendly SonofVulcan)


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Dear Fellow Charltonians-<br><br>I have begun the
reading of this landmark issue and it supplying gold
already. The Joe Gill interview alone is worth the price
of admission. Though brief I learned that Gill was
truly the writing machine I had imagined ever since I
learned he was a real guy and not just a house name. He
is a close friend of Mickey Spillane and his writing
career goes back to the early days at Marvel and the
other "Bigs". Like many he says he worked for Charlton
because though they paid less they left you alone and as
he more energetically put it, he didn't have to deal
with the editors in New York who justified their pay
by fooling with his work. He claims that he was
generating 40 pages a day at times. I believe
him.<br><br>Good News/Bad News: The BAD news is that this issue of
"Comic Book Artist" deals only with the Action Line of
Heroes under Dick Giordano's tenure in the middle and
late 60's. The editor had promised material on the
mid-70's Charlton comics under George Wildman but that
stuff was pushed out of this issue. The GOOD news is
that another Charlton issue is promised for early next
year covering the later material. <br><br>Counting the
L.A.W. mini-series, that is 8 new Charlton publications
(defacto) in three years.<br>They are doing pretty well for
company which was bulldozed to the ground years
ago.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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My Fellow Charltonians-<br><br>I have set up a
link to the on-line version of "Comic Book Artist" #9.
There you will find the wonderful Dick Giordano cover
art, a history of the company (illustrated), a Jim
Aparo interview, and Alan Moore on the
Charlton-Watchmen connection. Other articles available in the print
editon are listed.<br><br>For those of you too anxious
to go to the links page here is the
address:<br><br><a href=http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/09/index.html target=new>http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/09/index.html</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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it was great but it left out on of the first
artists to work for charlton the Golden age artist and
comic strip artist Fran Matera (I sould know I know
Fran very well)hes a good friend of mine i met him
thru his son


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Fellow Charltonian-<br><br>It advertises itself
as a "Brief History", but I agree that a number of
the early artists were neglected. I have yet to find
mention of Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallarico, except in a
reference to the "lackluster" artwork that preceded Steve
Ditko on "The Blue Beetle". People dismiss this work,
but I'm here to tell you that these guys could draw
rings around anyone at Extreme Studios and then some.
There is no justice in a world where Rob Liefeld is
revered and Tony Tallarico is lampooned or
forgotten.<br><br>It's fabulous that you know Matera. Any good stories
that you could share with us fellow Charltonians? It
is a great regret that I never met Pat Boyette. He
was a tremendous talent and now that he has passed, I
notice all sorts of comments to his talent. Aint that
always the way!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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i am doing a interview with Fran matera for a apa
if interested I could email it to you it will
include his work with Quality comics (dollman)freelance
work with kirby and simon on boy commandos and his
work at marvel.plus comic strips bruce lee among
others<br>Btw had you ever heard of fran before i mentioned him
just curious


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I read through the online stuff...very well done.
I'm definitely gonna pickup the magazine.<br><br>Hey,
did you guys hear that DC Direct is putting out
Watchmen action figures next year? What are the chances
we'll ever see some of the Charlton
heroes?<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html target=new>http://members.aol.com/E2JORL/index.html</a>


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Oooops! I did forget to say it was from the Garret Blue Beetle. Ah well, I was tired when I posted that.


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By the Sacred Blue Scarab you are forgiven my
son. Go forth and sin no more. (Actually you may sin
as much as you want; I don't really care. But play
carefully in the traffic.)<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I was impressed you knew someone associated with
the early days of my favorite company. I have heard
the name, and for some reason I connect it with comic
strips. Has Matera ever done any work on strips in
addition to comic book work?<br>Please share. I look
forward to it.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Son of Vulcan, can I make you a co-founder? I'm
currently a founder of approximately a dozen clubs now, and
need to do some delegating... Since you have a lot of
knowledge of Charlton and obviously enjoy this club, would
you like to be co-founder? I prefer to ask before
going ahead with it...<br><br>Doc<br>...let me know...


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Does anyone have this issue? It was an
Americomics special in the early 80s, which featured Captain
Atom, Nightshade, Blue Beetle, and the Question as a
team called the Sentinels of Justice.<br><br>My
question is: WHO is the villain appearing on the cover? He
looks pretty menacing, but entirely unrecognizable to
me...<br><br>Doc


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Doc-<br><br>It would be my pleasure to become a
co-founder of this club. This is the club I would have
started first if it hadn't already been up and running so
well. I love comics, and I like a lot of comics
companies, but Charlton is one of my passions.<br><br>Thanks
for asking.<br><br>Khaji Dha!,<br>Dean


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Doc-<br><br>The villian's name is the
"Manipulator". He was a crime-boss named Jonathan Barrington
Collingsworth,Jr. and he despite being in control of a large
network of criminals is actually doing the bidding
(unknowingly) of a hidden mastermind who unfortunately we never
meet because this was the only issue of the "Sentinels
of Justice" to showcase the Charlton heroes. DC had
bought rights and Bill Black published this story and a
Blue Beetle issue of "Americomics" (#3) by special
arrangement with folks at Chartlton.<br><br>The issue was
written by Dan St.John and drawn by Greg Guler and Matt
Feazell(on backgrounds). It of course features the four
heroes on the cover and confronts them with a teaming of
the Ditko villians Iron-Arms,Fiery-Icer, and the
Madmen. Also the Banshee shows up towards the end of the
story. It was a mediocre affair to be honest and as much
as I wish AC had retained the rights to the Charlton
characters, this is not the team I would have wished upon
them. <br><br>For the record Black went on to create
another team known as the Sentinels of Justice comprised
of his own Captain Paragon,Scarlet
Scorpion,Stardust,Nightveil,and Commando D. I will say that those issues have a
great sense of fun. I see this episode as a harbinger
of what was to happen to these characters at DC when
they were being considered for the Watchmen role. They
were saved for us by the narrowest of
margins.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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That's great. Congratulations, you're now a co-founder...<br><br>Doc


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I've just started up a new club with a definite
goal of gathering all the webpages known which deal
with war comics (DC, Marvel and others) in one place,
and even more importantly, inspire NEW webpages
(especially for characters like Sgt. Rock, who DESERVE to get
their own
fanpages)...<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/warishell target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/warishell</a><br><br>And I've also just uploaded my UNKNOWN SOLDIER Fact
Sheet & Timeline at my
webpage:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/the_time_trust_2000/unknown.htm target=new>http://www.geocities.com/the_time_trust_2000/unknown.htm</a><br><br>Doc<br>...War IS hell...


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I took a little time to gather up some images and
create a few albums. All are of old Charlton comics and
most of it is pretty unusual and sometimes bizarre. A
few are even likely to be offensive. I do not include
these because they are offensive but rather to document
some of the strange things the company known as
Charlton has published over the years. <br><br>There is an
album of "Blue Beetle" covers from the 50's revival of
the character at Charlton. This Beetle never said
"Kaji Dha". Included also is the "Nature Boy" comic in
which is contained a Blue Beetle story. I know Nature
Boy is in another album but I have not been able to
call up that particular image.<br><br>There is an
album for a very old Charlton comic called "Space
Western". The logo design will be familiar to Charlton
fans, though I dare to say the material here will not.
"Spurs Jackson & His Space Vigilantes" was a new one on
me. Has anyone seen or better yet read a copy of this
magazine?<br><br>The third album contains sundry unusual images. Among
them is an example of regional and racial sterotyping.
I apologize in advance if anyone takes offense, but
again that is not the reason for showing these images.
Charlton sought all the angles in which to make a buck,
and this display shows that in
abundance.<br><br>Enjoy and Possibly Learn.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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There are two new links to a couple of sites
featuring some great Charlton covers. Doc connected one
that is for a collection of Ghost and Monster Comics
covers, and it is filled with images of obscure and
enticing Charlton material. The other is to a special
Ditko location which is part of the great "Marvel
Comics Silver Age Covers"site by Nick Simon. There is a
special gallery of Ditko's work for various publishers
and there is a special set of pages for his Charlton
work. He worked for the company a long time and there
are a lot of wonderful images here.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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One of the sad notes in the recent "Comic Book
Artist" issue on Charlton was the news that Fred Himes
had passed away. I associated Himes with "Valley of
the Dinosaurs", a TV adaptation done in the mid-70's.
He also did numerous ghost and western jobs for
Charlton over the years. He was an associate of Pat
Boyette, and the art styles of both men were similar in
approach. I had assumed in the 70's that Himes was a
youngster who was emulating the more experienced Boyette.
That was not the case. Both men apparently worked
together off and on for years. Ironically they died within
months of one another. <br>Himes had a style that I came
to appreciate more as the years passed and my
understanding of comic art matured. Like so many of the
Charlton artists he labored in relative obscurity except
for those of us who were lucky enough to find his
work.<br><br>Kaji Dha,<br>Dean


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Subject: Welcome Darkflash 4261!
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Welcome to the Chartlton Internet campfire. Don't
hesitate to speak up and make your opinions known. This is
a kind and friendly place and we like to know what
others think of that little Derby, Connecticut company.
What's your favorite Charlton character? What period of
the company interests you most? What genre do you
read most?<br><br>We are interested, and we are glad
to have you.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Space:1999 and Bionic Comics Linked!
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Some new links are added which will take you to
some very pretty sites. "Space:1999" was produced by
Charlton as both a color comic and B&W magazine. Images of
the covers to all of them are available at two new
links. Also there is a link to a site about the
"Six-Million Dollar Man" and "Bionic Woman" comics produced by
Charlton around the same time. There is little in the way
of graphics but basic info is available.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: New Member
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Hey Son of Vulcan and Doctorquantum! Thanks for
inviting me to your club. I've been a comic book reader
since '74, and Charlton Comics were in abundance in my
home town in Virginia. These comics, along with DC,
Marvel, and Gold Key brought much adventure into my life,
and steered me to becoming a freelance artist. I am
currently working with DC Comics' License Department on a
JLA kids project, and have been doing Role-playing
game art since '96. A Joe Kubert School student, I've
seen many original and photocopied comic pages in my
time, but I can't get over the quality of work at
Charlton. No--not that Charlton did things better than
Marvel or DC, because I don't think they did--but at a
meager $13 a page, artists turn out some fabulous work!
Ditko, Byrne, Aparo, Giordano, etc.. I love Don Newton's
brief stint on the Phantom comics ---They are
fantastic! Doomsday + 1--Captain Atom--so many good
things!<br>Glad to be aboard!<br><br>Loston Wallace


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Loston-<br><br>Happy to have you here at the
Charlton Internet Campfire. There has been a drop off in
the activity here of late, but hopefully with new
members like yourself and the recent "Comic Book Artist"
issue on the Action Heroes things will begin to jump
here.<br><br>It is a pleasure to have a pro with us. The insights
you will be able to share will certainly be a
learning experience for me. As I mature(decay) I find
myself becoming more and more interested in the history
and methods of comics and comic production. It is
worth noting that the wonderful Charlton stuff was done
for so much less, and it is nice to get an
understanding of how that was possible. The interviews with
Giordano and Gill were enligtening. It seems the Charlton
experience was different for the creators as well as for the
readers.<br><br>Kaji Dha,<br>Dean


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You know, as a kid, I new Charlton as the "3rd
company" (Marvel and DC being the top dogs). Charlton's
colors and paper quality was not near the quality of the
"Big two", but Charlton had something special. For me,
I loved their Ghost & monster books, and
occassionally their superhero stuff might find its way to a
supermarket rack, and yours truly would be there to snatch it
up. Ditko's Captain Atom stories were loads of fun
for me. Doomsday +1 blew me away, and I still love
Charlton comics to this day. They're somewhat scarce these
days though. None of the comic shops here in New
Jersey seem to have more than 3 back issues at all. I'm
moving to North Carolina this month, so I'm hoping to
find a wealth of back issues there someplace. Anyone
know of a good source? Other than Ebay, I haven't a
clue. <br>--<br>Loston


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Subject: Re: New Member/Raleigh!
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I don't know how it is now, but several years ago
Raleigh had a number of good stores. The city is in close
to several colleges and that apparently created a
big market. I would hesitate to name any as they may
well be defunct. I know that Central Kentucky had a
lot of stores until the last few years and now the
area is down to two. Cincinnati has a few more (and
some excellent ones too), but there are fewer outlets
than in the 80's for sure. I realize how lucky I have
been by reading some of the posts here and elsewhere
on Yahoo; a number of fans out there have no real
outlets. <br><br>My nearest Comics shop is slightly less
than 20 miles away. I make a weekly trip. Within an
hour of my home are four more stores that I visit on
an irregular basis. <br><br>What are the situations
of the membership? How close is the nearest comics
shop to your house?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I'll tell you--I've got access to 14 comicshops
in Northern New Jersey. No foolin'! With the Joe
Kubert School and New York City so close, it's no
wonder. The closest one to me is under a mile away! It's
not a great shop, but it's handy. Many of the shops
here also deal in toys and action figures and even
roleplaying games. A couple are model shops too. I'm gon'na
miss that in Raleigh.<br><br>Loston


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Subject: Club picture
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What site did the image come from? I'd love to pay it a visit.


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Subject: Re: Space:1999 Link !
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..I mentioned B4 , on Golden Agers , I guess ,
that a British guy has a site up , that ( w/presumably
dubious legality ) rep.s the complete! , stories and even
text pages! of th' CHARLTON colo(u)r and b&ws !...Also
, reproducing seperate , by different people ,
stories done for the British (bi-)weeklys ( not by
<br>th' Charlton-ers , I mean )...but only repro-ing
those , complete , in Portugese ! ( The name<br> of the
scanner may provide a clue behind this ! )...Th'
Derby-ites are in Noah's English , don' worry...Plus , other
stuff ! Look for it through About.com's Conics board ,
or find it yourself , I'm too much on the Wrong!
side , of , the<br>Digital Divide...


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The image is in a photo album here by Spaceranger
called "Charlton Heroes of the 60's". Check it
out.<br><br>If the image is available elsewhere I am unaware of
it, but would love to be informed.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: First Question of the Week?
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Fellow Charltonians-<br><br>Following the example
of a few other clubs I am initiating a question of
the week. In an attempt to prod our collective
memories and start some conversations, I will put up a new
question about every week or so.<br><br>Our first question
is:<br><br>WHICH ONE CHARLTON CHARACTER IS YOUR
FAVORITE?<br><br>Feel free to draw from any of Charlton's eras and from
any genre of comic. For example is your favorite
Captain Atom, The Iron Corporal, The Montana Kid, or
perhaps Baron Wierwulf? I have lots of favorites, but if
I were forced to choose my answer would
be:<br><br>The Silver-Age Scarab-powered BLUE BEETLE.<br><br>The
character is much maligned, and I see the many virtues of
Ditko's later reinterpretation of the classic character,
but that bright blue hero has a purity of heroism
which is hard to ignore. Many focus on what they see as
weak art (I would disagree to some extent) and to
sometimes scatterbrained writing (I would agree to some
extent), but the Beetle has a rip-snorting menagerie of
villians comparable to Batman (given time to develop) and
a worldwide mileau that gave his adventures a sense
of gravity often lacking in more modernesqe humbler
characters (see "Action Heroes").<br><br>As I said I could
pick several out, but if I had to choose just ONE, the
Blue Beetle gets the nod.<br>Who is your SINGLE
FAVORITE Charlton character?<br><br>I look forward to
hearing some interesting responses.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:23:02 -0700
Subject: Watchmen Covers @ Nail News Site/Linked!
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The Nail News site is a link here now. Every now
and again they have something of interest for the
Charlton crowd. Currently there are a set of Watchmen
Covers being featured. At least one I had never seen
before. While it is on the Links Page here is the address
for your
convenience:<br><br><a href=http://www.nailnews.com/ target=new>http://www.nailnews.com/</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: An idea--
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I'm extremely busy moving from NJ to NC at the
moment, but I have an idea. First of all, are there any
other club members who are freelance artists? Any
colorists? <br> My idea: I thought that I'd offer to do a
club drawing for the photos section or even for the
display photo on the home page. If folks would want this,
maybe everyone could vote on the characters? Any of
this sound fun at all? Keep in mind, I'd have to do it
on my free time.<br>Let me know.<br><br>Loston


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Loston-<br>I can only speak for myself but I
would very much be interested in what you would be able
to do along the lines of original art for the club.
I would certainly be happy to feature it on the
front page. <br><br>I think I have made my ardor for
the Silver Age Blue Beetle pretty well known so I
would only hint that he in some way figure into your
composition. Assuming that you have no particular preferences
maybe I could arrange a Poll on this site which would
tally interest in individual charcters. What do you
think?<br><br>Thanks for the kind offer.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The nearest comics shop to my house? It's right around one hundred and fifty miles, or as the locals measure distance it's "two six packs and a thirst" away.


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That would be nice--Hey, how about I work up a
composition of the top 10 characters? How about that? Again,
I'd do it on my free time, but it'd be cool to do,
and I could use it as a portfolio piece as well! My
votes for Captain Atom at any rate (the original
costume). Currently, I'm working on a JLA kidsbook for DC
Comics' License Department. It's done in the Batman
Animated series style, & is a lot of fun. No--no Beetle,
but it's got a bunch of cool core members. Superman,
Batman, WonderWoman, Aquaman (bearded new version),
Flash, Green Lantern (Kyle Rahner version), & the
Martian Manhunter. Perhaps drawing them in the Bruce Timm
style might be a fun thing?! If not, I can easily
render them in the Silver Age style that they sprang
from. Either way. <br> For a glimpse at some of my
current DC stuff, check
out:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/batmanjla72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/batmanjla72.jpg</a><br>and<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/superjla72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/superjla72.jpg</a><br> Come on club members, let's hear what you'd like
to see!<br><br>Loston


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Oh yeah, btw, those two illustrations are only rough drawings done in marker, and not the finished work!  It's clean, but trust me, it's still very rough.  Hope you like 'em.<br><br>Loston


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Beautiful work there, Loston. I for one love the
Batman/Superman Animated style and would be very interested in
what you could come up with using the Charlton
characters... if you post it in one of the albums, I can link
it to the front page so anyone visiting can click on
the miniature and see it full-size...<br><br>Doc


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Hey Doc, that sounds mighty fine. I was just
thinking that there's almost no chance of ever seeing
Charlton characters done in the Bruce Timm style
otherwise. <br> Oh yeah, anyone got any ideas on how I can
get my hands on Charlton back issues?<br><br>Loston


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Jon-<br>I was thinking about you when I asked the
question. I knew from previous conversations that it was
quite a hike to a comics store for you. I realize (and
have for some time) that I live in a pretty
comics-rich environment. Until a couple of years ago there
were at least twelve stores within an hour and a half
of my house. That number is probably cut in half at
this point, but there are still a lot.<br><br>In my
youth there was one very good drugstore (where I got
started), and one excellent newstand.<br>I may have told
this before (sign of being a coot) but the stand was
actually a tiny street-side stand and it was run by a
gruff, old blind man. He scared me to death, but I
overcame that and eventually became one of his trusted
customers, who he relied upon to keep an eye on the new
folks for him. Later he got an actual store and I now
know had a splendid display of comics, unlike anything
I have ever seen outside of a specialty comics
store.<br><br>I know you can relate to this, but I sometimes miss
chasing all over town trying to get the latest issues.
Last night I drove to my regular store ( which I had
called previously to reserve my selections) and I picked
them up, bought them and I was out of there in five
minutes. Usually I spend more time, but gone was the
thrill of spinning the rack and finding the unknown
treasure. It was a kind of poor man's roulette wheel. I
know that two months of hunting down my comics would
wear me down, but sometimes it is just too easy these
days. Those of you not so lucky probably wonder what I
yammering about, but there is something tasty in the chase
after all.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Loston-<br>I have no way of knowing if it is
still there, but a number of my 60's vintage comics
came from a place in Raleigh called "Tales Resold". I
believe I'm telling you the truth. You might try that
when you arrive. As I remember it was pretty close to
the downtown area.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean, my wife's sister checked her Raleigh phone book and "Tales Resold" is still listed.  I'll be sure to check that out.<br><br>Loston


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...I probably haven't even SEEN a K. story in
twenty-plus years , but...E-Man ( & -Girl . ) would be nice ,
too , plus other Es? , and , how 'bout the 1973-4
vintage John Byrne hisself that he used 2 draw into his
stories ? KILLJOY , OH <br>BOY , EVEN FROM THIS GOY
!!!!!!!!! ( Well , it's topical and all...I've , albiet
briefly , LIVED in Conn. ! ) HOY !!!!!!!!! <br>EDDIE FOY
!!!!!!!!! ( Jr. , OR , otherwise ! ) MYRNA LOY !!!!!!!!!
TOY !!!!!!!!!


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You prompted me to go and dig out the "Killjoy"
story. It was a lot of fun. This character may have been
the most poetentially successful advocate of Steve
Ditko's black/white philosophy because HE DID NOT TALK.
The one thing that weighs down those "Mr.A" stories
(and the Mysterious Suspense "Question" appearance) is
the ponderous dialogue. In Killjoy I noticed the
villians (and a more preposterous group you likely never
find) did all of the talking playing off of the mute
Killjoy. He never uttered one platitude,but rather let
them talk themselves into corners and making the point
for him. There is plenty of that Ditko kinetic frenzy
which is his signature on his athletic
heroes.<br><br>Thanks for the reminder Waltsland!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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The conversation took a natural turn when Loston
made his gracious offer, but I'm still interested in
which Charlton character is each member's favorite. You
can choose from any genre or time in the company's
history. Licensed characters are perfectly in play for
this question as far as I'm concerned.<br><br>I think
a few of those response have been coming through in
response to characters we would like to see Loston draw,
but they haven't been precisely clear.
<br><br>Remember, if you had to choose ONE, which character is your
favorite?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hi, I'm the new kid on the block here. Anyway,
I'd probably have to go with the Phantom as my
favorite Charlton character. I know he was a licensed
character but he was probably Charlton's most popular
"Action Hero" considering a run spanning about 8 years.
The Charlton Phantom also benefitted from great art
and artists including Aparo, Boyette, the vastly
underrated Bolle, and the justly celebrated
Newton.<br><br>Scotty


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The Phantom was one the reasons I made a point of
mentioning licensed characters when I put the reminder on
the question. He probably would be Chartlon's most
successful maskedman type, though he obviously isn't one of
thier own.<br><br>As for Frank Bolle, I'm glad to see
his name get a mention. That mundane style is not in
vogue in some parts, but it sure tells a clear story.
Have you checked out the link to the Don Newton site.
It is a fabulous site and I heartily recommend
it.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Glad to have a new name (boy is that a keyboard
full) here at the Charlton Internet House
Party.<br>Don't hestitate to jump into the conversation. The
natives here play nice and we welcome a new Charlton
insight. With no new comics out there we only have
ourselves.<br><br>Welcome again.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I won't say he was my favorite
Charlton character, because I only saw two episodes of his
short-lived series, but 'The Iron Corporal' was certainly one
of the finest things I ever saw from Charlton. Good
war comics are few and far between in one is
interested in war stories that actually have anything to do
with war and this ANZAC character had a lot going for
him, mostly that he was depicted as a human being
coping as best he could in terrible circumstances. He
occassionally did something heroic but he seldom risked his
life without calculating the odds, and mostly he was
depicted as a good soldier, not the spit and polish kind
but the one you would want to back you up if you knew
you were crossing open ground with the possibility of
a sniper somewhere around; if you got hit, chances
are the Iron Corporal would drag you back in. The
Pacific War setting was also interesting, and the ANZAC
troops were depicted more as guerrillas than typical
British troops. <br><br>Again, I wouldn't say this was my
favorite Charlton series, but it is one I have a lot of
respect for and I thought it deserved some mention among
the inevitable outpourings about Captain Atom, Blue
Beetle, the Question, Thunderbolt and etc.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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...I think there were two? CH. Killjoy stories ,
and , I HAVE seen the suggestion that Ditko was
poking a little bit of fun at himself/how stiff his
expression of his philosophy could be , in Killjoy-? Sort of
like a 2nd ( or 3d ) level conservative 60s editorial
cartoonist , with " Mr. And Mrs John Q. Citizen " , being "
Fed Up " with<br>" Punks , Protestors , And Pinkos "
!!!!!!!


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...If you're 29 , were you reading comics at the
age of 3 ? Charlton basically stopped being a
full-fledged ( I . E . , producing<br>NEW COMICS !!!!! )
comics company after about '77 , or '76 , even , tho' ,
granted , they still had stuff on th' stands ( Sometimes
under the Modern Comics banner ? ) as late as '86/'87?
, though , granted as well , this wouldn't mean
much , to somebody who wasn't a " fan " , 'long's
stuff kept showin' up in th' storress...


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Thanks for the reminder Waltsland. I found the story in E-Man #2 and forgot about the other in E-Man #4. The Gorilla with the domino mask is my favorite.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Jon-<br>Must you be difficult? (Just joking.)
Good selection. I am hoping this question does indeed
broaden our discussion here as characters who don't
usually get a mention buy some air time.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Speaking of characters not discussed much--what
were the Charlton ghost storie's characters? I
remember a blue-green chick, a specter type (kind of a
white RAGMAN type, and Dr Graves--Any others? Anyone
have the names of the specter or the blue chick? She'd
be cool to draw!<br><br>Loston


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Loston-<br>Have I been waiting to talk to you!
Way back at Post #168 I put up a list of Charlton
Ghost Book Hosts. The green chick is "Winnie the Witch"
and the little white fellow is called "Impy". For the
full list checkout the earlier post. Do you know any I
have overlooked. I'd like to get the list
comprehensive.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Got any pictures you can scan of the two?  I might add them to the drawing just for fun's sake!<br><br>Loston


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Sorry but no. I have plenty of images, but no
scanner. Ditko did a number of images of both of them, and
you might find a visual at the Ditko Charlton Cover
Gallery in the Links Page.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dear Charltonians-<br>Here is a question to test your memories:<br><br>Professor Coffin worked for what University?<br><br>Good Luck and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hi all,<br><br>SSSTAN, a member of the Charlton
club, has posted on my About.com Forum in the past. I
thought I'd poke my head in here and let you all know
that I'm running a game of Jeopardy with a comic book
theme on the Forum, and one of the categories is
"Charlton Comics!"<br><br>Everyone missed the first
question:<br>"John Byrne robot that premiered in the back of
E-MAN."<br><br>But one player managed to nail:<br>"Creator of The
Question, upon whom Watchmen's Rorschach is
based."<br><br>Right now, I'm waiting for an answer to:<br>"Home city
to many Charlton characters, including the Blue
Beetle."<br><br>It's been a fun game so far, and there are still
enough questions left for pretty much anyone to win. If
you're interested, just go
to:<br><br><a href=http://forums.about.com/ab-comicbooks/messages/?lgnF=y&msg=260.1&ctx=1 target=new>http://forums.about.com/ab-comicbooks/messages/?lgnF=y&msg=260.1&ctx=1</a><br><br>The more the merrier! I've been an on-again,
off-again Charlton reader for about 20 years now. I had a
complete run on E-MAN at one point, and have quite a few
of Charlton's SF comics.<br><br>All the
best!<br>Stew<br><br>comicbooks.guide@about.com<br>About.com Comic Book
Collecting<br><a href=http://comicbooks.about.com target=new>http://comicbooks.about.com</a>


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Glad to have the offer. I tried but couldn't
navigate over to your game. My meager computer skills let
me down once again. I hope you stick around and
perhaps dream up a nice quiz just for the
membership.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I know almost nothing about
Professor Coffin, but I'll make a guess. I would imagine
there is a good chance that Professor Coffin worked for
Miskatonic University. Or would that be too
obvious?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon<br>Jon


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Let me formally welcome you to the Charlton
Internet Campfire. Pull up a modem and settle in. You have
already posted and I hope you will spend lots of time
here and share what you know about the little
Derby,Connecticut company that we all
followed.<br><br>Welcome.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks for trying Jon. That's not right but it is
a great guess. I correct in thinking this is the
institute of higher learning referred to in H.P.Lovecraft's
work. If I'm mistaken clear me up, I'm
curious.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Yes, Miskatonic University appears
in several of H.P. Lovecraft's stories (notably 'The
Colour Out of Space') and you'll occassionally see it as
an in-joke in sci-fi movies. Someone actually
connected it tenatively with Arkham Institute and I thought
since I didn't know the answer to your question it was
an educated (no pun intended) guess.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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A tough question for me as I don't have that much
knowledge of the characters during the time Charlton were
actually publishing them. In terms of execution of the
characters I would say that the Question as done by Ditko is
my favourite. However as a concept I think
Thunderbolt would get my vote as the one with the most
potential. I'll have to wait until I get around to reading
some of his adventures to see if they live up to my
expectations.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Charltonians-<br>Here is the question again with a hint:<br><br>Professor Coffin worked for what University?<br>(Hint:He might have met "Rosebud" there.)<br><br>Good Luck and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charles Foster Kane U? ;^)


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Nope. But you are on the right track.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Sorry you couldn't get to the messages -- The
link from my first message is supposed to take you
right to it. You have to register with Delphi before
you can post, and that's kind of a pain.
:-)<br><br>I'll admit; My Charlton knowledge is lacking overall,
but maybe I could come up with a cool question to
post here sometime. <br><br>As About.com Comic Books
guide, I do get an awful lot of questions asking where
to find good Charlton info on the Web. As you are
all no doubt aware, the number of Charlton sites is
pretty slim. Any recommendations you would have for
pointing folks in the right direction would be much
appreciated.<br><br>All the
best!<br>Stew<br><br>comicbooks.guide@about.com<br><a href=http://comicbooks.about.com target=new>http://comicbooks.about.com</a>


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Um, it wasn't Xanadu University was it? There
now, you can all laugh at my dumb
answer.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.<br>Oh, Mr Vulcan, I just saw that 'Negro Love' photo you
posted, I nearly choked on my coffee!


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Yesterday, a friend of mine and I went out in the
dreary rain to a local comic shop. The store was filled
with back issues, classics and toys. I asked the
gentlemen behind the counter if he had any Charlton back
issues---His response, "No--sorry." But I looked through his
stuff, and came up with some Byrne FF's that I missed
back in '81. Not too bad! Unfortunately, my buddy also
needed those issues--what to do? Then the-man
behind-the-counter spoke, "Those boxes on the bottem have duplicates
of that stuff--if you wanna take time to look them
through."<br> We did. What did I find? Charlton's E-man #1 in
MINT condition! The man-behind-the-counter was amazed
as well! I ended up with the FF's and E-man--a great
comic day!<br><br>Loston


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Confession:<br><br>I owned quite a few issues of
Charlton's E-MAN in the mid-80s, as well as Simonson's
complete THOR run of that time. But I sold them both for
credit towards DC Comics backissues. And now I wish I
still had them. (I also had the first 10 issues of
SANDMAN -- I still have the rest of the series -- and
although I've since bought the reprints, if I'd kept them,
I could've sold them for a pretty penny in the
present...)<br><br>TTT


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It was Xanadu University! I won't
laugh.<br><br>Was the choke on the coffee one of humor or horror? I
could see either reaction. The cover itself is tame,
but the concept of such a comic is pretty dreadful.
Hopefully we are beyond some of these things, a little. Oh
you can call me "Son", all of my students do, or
something like that.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Is that E-Man #1 cover image skewed? I have seen
a few of them and each one I've seen has the cover
off to angle. Just curious? <br><br>Tell me what you
think of the "Knight" story. It is a hidden gem in the
Charlton canon.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:50:00 -0700
Subject: Real Names Quiz !!!
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Here is another in an endless array (it seems
that way doesn't it) of quizzes. The following are all
the real names of Charlton characters. There are both
villians and heroes on the list.<br><br>1. Who is Jack
Biceps?<br>2. Who is Chung Hui?<br>3. Who is Katrinka
Colchnzski?<br>4. Who is Alec Rois?<br>5. Who is Johnny
Mann?<br><br>Enjoy! <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I can only answer two of those.<br><br>4)Alec Rois is the Ghost <br>5)Johnny Mann is the Son of Vulcan


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Two down and three to go.<br><br>Alec Rois is the Ghost from so many "Captain Atom" issues I lost track.<br><br>Johnny Mann is the Son of Vulcan. <br><br>Good going. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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1. Mr. Muscles?


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In re-reading the SARGE STEEL stories in the
backs of several issues of JUDOMASTER, I really would
like to see a miniseries featuring Steel in his early
days as an agent. I'm not all that fond of his more
recent DC appearances, in which he always played the
role of "M" in the stories, instead of remaining a
James Bond type as he was meant to be... Some of those
old stories were REALLY cool... and Dick Giordano's
early work is FAR more appealing than anything I've
seen him do in recent years.<br><br>Doc


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Dean,<br><br>Doc has eliminated #1 and I believe
Chung Hui was the star of 'Yang'. Assumming that I'm
correct (which I'm not particularly), that only leaves
Katrinka Colchnzski. I'll take a guess and say she
performed under the stage name "Nova Kane."<br><br>Are we
done with this one now?<br><br>Curious,<br>Jon


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The reaction on seeing the cover was more one of
humour mixed with bemusement I guess. You're right
though, the cover itself wasn't bad but the
title....simply amazing, btw, when was this book actually
produced? I'm guessing mid 50's?<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Great guess, but Jack Biceps is not "Mr.Muscles".<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Good going Jon. Chung Hui is the real name of the
man called "Yang". Katrinka is the real name of the
woman known as "Nova Kane".<br><br>But #1 is still
open. This is the hardest one on this quiz in my
opinion (and as demonstrated).<br><br>Hint: He is a
villian in a starring role.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Steve-<br>You are right. My Overstreet gives a 1955 date for the book. It seems to be a continuation of a Fawcett series and I only see one issue (mercifully) by Charlton.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I have a quiz question of my own, and it is about
some characters who made a BIG impression on me when I
was a kid, and whom I would have to consider my
favorites for that reason...<br><br>Doc<br><br>...but I'll
wait until this Quiz is over first.


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...Re: " Negro Love " ( And , I should point out
that I'm the " SSSSSSSSSTAN " referred to by the
About.Com guy - it's my name 4 posting theyaha -<br>though
I actuallly used ( essentially ) this one ,
originally . I guess I've given at least indirect cloozz ? -
Oh , well , they say ( the neon lights are bright ,
on Broadway ( On Broaaad-waay ! ) . )<br> " privacy
is a pre-digital era relic ,<br>on the Web " ,
anyway riittee ????? ) " Negro " was , as those older n'
me oughtt2 re-memmberr , <br>th' polite " correct "
term for those of ( no Sally Hemmings jokes here )
primarily African descent til at least th' mid- , if not
the late , Sixties . There's still a coupla " True
Confessions "-type mags that specifically specialize in
A.-American-protaginist(sic?) stor-<br>ies ( with official titles - not too
emphasized on th' covers anymore? - that probably date back
to th' late Forties or theyyaabouuts - ) " Tan
Confessions " and " Jive Confessions " ( when we consider th'
<br>NON!-complimentary slang meaning " jive " <br>ALSO has , that
title's kind of amusing , no ? ) , maybe others ?
A.-American-directed romance novels , too .


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Dean,<br><br>I'll wager that Jack Biceps became
the eminently absurd Captain Atom villain "Iron
Arms." I refuse to believe that Jack Biceps was his
given name; biceps must have been a corruption of his
last name or one of the most unlikely aliases of all
times.<br><br>Are we done with this puppy now?<br><br>Jon


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A few catching up things:<br><br>Moving to North
Carolina? Hmm...I can't suggest Charlton-oriented shops,
but I can suggest Shelton Drumm's Heroes Convention
which happens roughly every June in Charlotte. It's a
pretty respectable con, and a number of artists who
worked for Charlton at one time or another were there
this year (including Steve Skeates and Sam
Glanzman).<br><br>QOTW #1: The Question, no doubt. After that...E-Man.
Seriously.<br><br>Club Picture Question #1: I have no idea where this
version came from, but I've got the Americomics pic up on
my Question site, which I got off of E-Bay. I later
bought three copies of the comic for $.25, but one went
to Mr. Bob Layton, one's promised to Scott McCullar
of GA Compendium fame and the other, of course,
remains in my collection.<br><br>Club Picture Question
#2: I agree with everyone else on the fact that
fan-drawn club pictures would kick ass. I don't work in
DC's licensing dept. or anything, but I'd be willing
to do a sketch or two for the good of the cause too.
Maybe we could make a photo album?<br><br>CBA: Does
anyone have a spare copy of the newest Comic Book
Artist? None of the stores in my area have it, and I'm
hoping someone could mail me an extra copy (for
compensation, of course).<br><br>--Eric


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The puppy lives. Good guess (I thought someone
might come of with this one), but Jack Biceps is not
"Iron Arms". <br><br>Hint #2- Blue Beetle and
Peacemaker guest-starred in this villian's only
appearance.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks. I would love to see what you could come
up with in the way of artwork. A photo album of
original artwork would be very nice.<br><br>A vote for the
Question. I will have to tabulate this sucker
soon.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Couldja ? POST afew K-J PANELS ( I emphasize -
with that nine-panel grid style , ther'es poolenntyy
to choose from ? That " domino-masked gorilla " ? ,
say & maybe some crying bleeding-heart commentator(s)
( The world ? - The UN ? ) , and <br>crooks , going
" that Killjoy ! " ????? Maybe a panel of decent
citizens cheering , too , but not TOO much...Please please
please please ???????


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<a href=http://www.geocities.com/redfender/HubCity/thelaw.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/redfender/HubCity/thelaw.jpg</a><br><br>I did this about a year and a half ago, before the
series came out. The proportions are really off, and I
didn't do alot of work on the faces. Capn Atom's costume
looks like crap, but, anyway, here's a start. I'll do
another later.<br><br>--Eric


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Great drawing! I have already created a new Album for Members' original artwork and yours is the first installment Punky. Great Job!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Sadly, Son of Vulcan always seems to get left out of the mix, though... but good work on the pic anyways!<br><br>Doc


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Jack Biceps is (drum roll... tat a tat atatatatat
a tat tat) "Sinestro Boy Fiend". He appeared in the
warmly remembered "Charlton Premiere", issue #3 to be
specific. He was a satirical sendup of the superhero
shtick. The character was very well drawn by Henry
Scarpelli. The writer is unlisted, though somebody probably
knows who it was. Jack is a teen who thinks it is
unfair that the heroes get all the breaks and sets out
to become a villian. During the course of his spree
he encounters Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, and three new
guys named Superguy,the Green Spider and Captain USA.
His biggest problem is getting people to take him
seriously as a villian.<br><br>Of course Charlton Premiere
only had four issues in all. In the first there was a
triad of tales featuring "The Shape" (ghost written by
Roy Thomas we learn in CBA #9),"The Tyro Team", and
Boyette's "Spookman". The second issue featured the
well-regarded "Children of Doom". Issue three had our boy
Sinestro, and issue four featured "Unlikely Tales" a slight
variation on the ghost-host formula of scary
stories.<br><br>Is "Sinestro Boy Fiend" the work of Steve Skeates
perhaps? <br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good Afternoon.<br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Argh! The name "Biceps" totally threw me off...
Hey, not to be overly anal retentive, but isn't his
name actually "Sinistro, Boy Fiend"...?<br><br>Here's
my trivia question:<br><br>Who are Rick Strong,
Cindy Carson and Crunch Wilson, and was their
occupation?<br><br>Doc


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I got it , too , and it IS excellent
!!!!!!!!!!!<br> Mebbe a lil' too " oral history/interviews
"-ori-<br>ented , but , that's alright , Mama . Hope formore in
th' promised " later years " ish !!!!!!!Answers some
of th' copyright/business-type ?sthat I/y'all asked
. Lah tee dee tee dee dee dee...


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Doc-<br><br>Rick Strong, Cindy Carson and Crunch
Wilson were a folk-singing trio, known as "The
Protesters" I think. They were selected by a scientist to use
his inventions (a flying belt, a brain-enhanicing
tiara, and strength-enhancing gloves) and they became
"The Sentinels".<br>Rick became "Helio", Cindy became
"Mentalla", and Crunch became "Brute". I'm operating strictly
on memory here so if some of this is incorrect I'm
sure it will be straightened out.<br><br>You are
absolutely correct; it was "SinIstro,Boy Fiend". And that's
not being anal, that's just being correct.
Thanks.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Yes. The ACG Comics connection was explained
quite nicely. Also the stuff on PAM and Thunderbolt was
clarified.<br><br>On a related note, the new stuff spotlighted by Pete
Morisi (PAM) looks quite entertaining. A new take on
"The Face" and a hero who like Thunderbolt has some
Golden Age Daredevil elements to his costume. I would
love to see more of either or both of these. Someone
out there offer the man a contract. <br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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..Re; Shaolin's own PAM , I'd <br>agree , BUT
!!!!!!!!! , " one of th' most prolific artists EV-AH "
????????? Pulluh-eassee ! Mebbe <br>" One'a da most
prolific artists , who , at th' same time , wuuzz woikin'
4 da NYPD " , but...<br>( " Shaolin " = Staten
Island in <br>thaa hauusse , y'all ! )


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Steve Ditko aside, who is the most significant
talent which has come from the ranks of the Charlton
Comics Division?<br><br>There are more artists than I
can name, but which if any is the most significant
talent from the Derby, Connecticut company? Was it
Byrne? Staton? Giordano? Boyette? Aparo? Alascia? PAM?
Newton? Who would it be?<br><br>There are many writers
who began at Charlton. Which if any is the most
significant talent from the company's long history? Was it
Gill? Skeates?<br>Cuti? Kaler? O'Neill? Who would it
be?<br><br>Remember you can't pick Steve Ditko (or the poll wouldn't
be worth taking). Which ONE talent would you
select?<br><br>My answer is Joe Gill. The man was a machine. I am
way overly impressed by creators who not only do
their jobs competently, but do them consistently over a
long period of time. There is no writer I am aware of
who has done this much actual writing in the comics
field (at least in America). I have said before that I
assumed for years that "Joe Gill" was a house name used
by Charlton for any unguessed number of actual
people who were really writing all those comics. I
couldn't imagine one guy generating that much material. My
imagination was weak indeed. The obvious argument is that
outside Charlton, Gill hardly matters, but without Joe
Gill I have no idea what Charlton would be.
<br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good Afternoon!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Since this will kind of have 2 boil <br>down 2
" affection/favorite " , maybe I'll go for Aparo ,
4 how I LOVED him , mid-ish-70s...mebbe<br>Staton ,
Giordano , then ? Byrne's " rise to stardom " came , while
I was out of comics , really...Anyone wanna go 4 "
Sturdy Steve " as a WRITER ???????<br> Maybe it'll be
Skates , personally . Maybe that'd encourage DC to do
some " The Original Hawk And The Dove " , of
his/Ditko's character , with th' 'riginal issues , th' " TEEN
TITANS " stuff , mebbe some ty-up of the' never-resolved
plot elements , and even the <br>"
now-out-of-continuity "<br>( but , I thought , rather touching ) <br>"
end of..." " BRAVE & THE BOLD "<br> story...and , I
only <br>read it years later !!!!!...maybe even some
scenes of Hawk in th' Navy , etc. , from <br>" DC COMICS
PRESENTS "...Well , I can dream , can't I !!!!!!!!! More
later .


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Don't be so quick to resort to a simple "pick
your favorite" on this question. There are real
criteria which can be applied. What would the effect of
this talent not having worked for Charlton have been?
How would the Charlton we know be a different place
but for the work of this talent, whether that talent
was a writer, artist, or both? Favortites can be a
criteria, but they by no means must be.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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"Silver Age Collectors" is a club out there in
the Yahoo wilderness that is in need of some help.
The concept of the club is broad enough that many of
the regulars here might enjoy some time there. The
Silver Age is defined fairly broadly and it frees the
discussion to delve into all aspects and companies which
were out and about during the S.A. Give it a try. The
address
is:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/silveragecollectors target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/silveragecollectors</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Like I don't know , Charlton would've gone
outta business in '76 rather than '77 if it weren't for
Byrne drawing " Wheelie & the Chopper Bunch " ? ( No "
Speed Buggy " ?...I guess Byrnie wanted to get back to
the character's ROOTS , and the big calzones up in
Derby wouldn't let him ! )<br>You've ALREADY placed a
fairly large restriction <br>upon discussion herein by
ruling out Sturdy Steve...What are you , a pawn of
Madeline Albright or something ?...


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...You ought 2 be thaa one 2 ask...Who has
SOVulcan ? Th' CBA Giordano interview seems to state that
he " bought it for Roy Thomas " , but , he wasn't in
what I saw of th' L . A . W . mini-series ( which I
wasn't able 2 obtain all of . )...I believe that the
LAW-characters , = perhaps their back-ups? , are all DC has now
?...


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...And , I might add , th' Thomas piece seems to IMPLY that the " fan contest " Blue Beetle and Captain Atom stories never saw print , if , indeed , they were even " chosen " , but...


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Ruling out "Sturdy Steve" was the point. He
clearly wins the contest, but with him out of the picture
who is left? That's the point.<br><br>What makes you
think I'm a PAWN of Ms.Albright's. Might it make sense
that she serves MY ulterior machinations? Wheelie it
was, and there is a certain distilled essence to those
adventures. Thanks for pointing it out Walter.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Are you suggesting that Son of Vulcan (my
namesake) was not a thoroughly successful character? How
dare you intimate such vile distortions. The fact that
SoV hasn't made even a dozen appearances in 35 years
might indicate that he was not exactly burning up the
sales charts, or it might indicate he was yet another
of Alan Moore's unfinished efforts. Who really knows
the truth Walter? Who really knows?<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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We all know that Nova Kane of "E-Man" fame was an
exotic dancer who was earning money to attend college.
The question for the membership is this:<br><br>What
was the name of the University that Nova
attended?<br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good Afternoon!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Son of Vulcan, I'm curious as to how we can
determine a top 10 Charlton characters for me to draw for
the club. I've decided that I'll throw in Capt Atom,
Blue Beetle, and Nightshade in addition to the
10--that should make the other ten more interesting. Any
ideas on an offical voting method?<br><br>Loston


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Sorry Loston! Like so many things here, once it
goes off the front page it gets forgotten. You need 10
characters so the easiest method seems to me for everyone to
nominate their 10 candidates and then those lists will be
compared and the top 10 vote getters will be your
subjects. Of course there is no need to include Captain
Atom, Blue Beetle, and Nightshade on any lists since
they already have made it.<br><br> I'll start it off
with my 10 selections:<br><br>1. Peacemaker<br>2.
Thunderbolt<br>3. JudoMaster<br>4. E-Man<br>5. Rog-2000<br>6.
Dr.Graves<br>7. Arachne Coffin <br>8. Son of Vulcan<br>9.
Cheyenne Kid<br>10.The Question<br><br>I couldn't think of
a War character who would be immediately
recognizable though there are several good candidates. The
list is heavy with males which is why Arachne may be a
better choice than her uncle. Winnie the Witch would be
a nice distaff choice too, or the Baroness Von
Bludd.<br><br>Now each member should put up a formal list of 10
candidates and then we can tally the numbers. This needs to
have a time limit, so let's say that the final tally
will be done this weekend.<br><br>Thanks for this
gracious offer again Loston. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I'll go with some who will obviously be
winners:<br><br>1. Thunderbolt<br>2. Judomaster<br>3. Son of
Vulcan<br>4. E-Man<br>5. Peacemaker<br><br>add some unexpected
ones (the criteria is charactes not heroes,
correct)<br><br>6. Ghost<br>7. Punch<br>8. Jewelee<br><br>and two
obvious losers, who do deserve at least a
mention<br><br>9. Gunmaster<br>10. Mr. Mucscles<br><br>I was
tempted to add Sarge Steel to the list somewhere, but I'm
sure he'll garner some votes anyway. There probably
should be some representation from the western, war, and
horror genres but I really don't think there are any
Charlton characters who are instantly recognizable from
Charlton books in those genres. I was tempted to throw in
Gorgo, but the problem of scale makes it more trouble
than it would be worth. I really don't expect to see
all three of my villianous nominations make the final
cut, but I would like to see one make the final cut
and using Jewelee is a way to include another female
(Nova would also work however, so I wouldn't mind
seeing her rack up some votes).<br><br>I'm probably
nearly as curious to see the end voting tally as I am to
see the finished product. This is a generous offer on
Loston's part and I appreciate it.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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Great, keep up the list of top 10 characters!  Has anyone got a scanner and would be willing to send me reference shots of some characters?  That'd be a tremendous help.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Loston


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10. ...That guy who was the leader of the
Doomsday Squad<br>9. Michael Mauser<br>8. Gorgo<br>7.
Judo-Master<br>6. The Tyro Team (umm...so what if this is
three?)<br>5. Willie Schultz<br>4. Peter Cannon,
Thunderbolt<br>3. Rog-2000<br>2. E-Man<br>1. The Question


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&gt;7. Judo-Master<br><br>Strike that...use Yang instead.<br><br>--Eric


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First thing I'd like to do is thank Loston for
his offer, like others have done here. Secondly, I'd
like to offer my list, bearing in mind my selection
criteria is which character looks cool.<br>1)The
Question.<br>2)Thunderbolt.<br>3)Dr Graves. <br>4)Peacemaker<br>5)The Smiling
Skull.<br>6)Abbot and Costello (yes, really)<br>7)Willy Schultz (I
deliberated over this, would people recognise
him?)<br>8)Sarge Steel<br>9)Wander<br>10)E-Man<br>I thought that
the War comics should be represented in some way
hence Willy Schultz's inclusion,would The Fightin' Five
count as one choice or am I being
greedy?<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Does anyone know anything about a Charlton comic
from the early 60's called Reptilicus? A friend of
mine bought it from Forbidden Planet in London for
25p. I haven't seen it yet but he says its in very
good condition.<br>Regards,<br>Stephen.


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...If th' KFS-liscenced Phantom is eligible , can
I vote for Barney Google ( with the goo
goo<br>googly - well , YOU know !!!!!!! ) ? His horse ?<br>If
it's a " #1 gets ten points , bottom gets 1 " , <br>
then I'm DEFINITELY voting for Killy as #1 - sniff !
nobody else but me wuuvves him !!!!!!!


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Nope. We will just count total number of votes
and keep things simple. Whoever shows up on the most
lists will get the nod. The problem won't be the first
five or six, but the ones everyone chooses for that
personal flavor. If we end up with a bunch of one-vote
candidates we can do a quick second round vote with just
those characters as the slate.<br><br>I wouldn't think
licensed stuff would work that well, but I don't see a
technical reason not to. I didn't put the Phantom on my
list for that reason.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Stephen-<br>The answer is yes. According to my
Overstreet Charlton published two issues of "Reptilicus" in
1961. Doubtless these are tie-ins to the notorious
monster flick of the same name. I have seen copies, but I
have never examined them. The book became
"Reptisaurus" with issues #3 and ran through issue #8 in 1962.
There is apparently a Special Edition #1 in the Summer
of 1963.<br><br>Assuming Overstreet has that right,
that should be enough for you guys to put it into some
context. By the way what is "25p" in U.S.currency if you
happen to know? I don't know if your friend got a deal
or not, but it sounds like it.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Sonofvulcan,<br><br>As far as I'm concerned, if
it carried a Charlton logo it's elligable by me. I
don't mind drawing the Phantom, whose most noteable
comic run was Charlton Comics. Hell, I'll draw Sad Sack
if the vote goes that route! I'm primarily
interested in doing a nice Charlton illustration for the
club. Charlton characters have been neglected in
comics--undeservedly so. <br> Hey, do I get a vote? Have I done that
already? I really can't recall. For Arguments sake, here
goes (remember Capt A, B.Beetle, and Nightshade are
already a given!): <br><br>1)E-man<br>2)Impy(the horror
book host)<br>3)Winnie the witch , that green/blue
chick (horror book host again)<br>4)Phantom<br>5)Dr
Graves<br>6)Peace Maker<br>7)Judo Master<br>8)the Question (though
I believe he's one of the "given" characters<br>9)
& 10) I'll have to think about---<br><br>Loston


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Thanks for the info Dean, 25p is about 50 US cents I think (something like that anyway)so it does look like he got a good deal.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Walter-<br>When I read that line about buying the
Son of Vulcan for Roy Thomas in the Dick Giordano
interview I assumed he bought it for the company so Roy
(then employed by DC) could use the character, but
after your question I went back and read the article
again. Nothing conclusive about who owns the rights to
SoV, but it apparently isn't DC. I noticed that
whenever any of the L.A.W. characters were presented
graphically there was a clear DC Comics copyright indication.
There was also a designation for "the respective
copyright holder". That was the designation for SoV. What
is odd though is there is a copyright for Roy Thomas
for a photo of him but no such indication for Son of
Vulcan. So I don't know. Maybe Roy does have the rights,
or those rights have reverted or been sold to some
other unknown party.<br><br>Related detail on the
cover, only DC owned property plus Thunderbolt are shown
in full color. There are a smattering of silhouettes
which are Cheyenne Kid,Fightin'5,and Sentinels but
again no Son of Vulcan. So we know for sure that SoV is
not a DC property.<br><br>Thanks for asking the
question. I had just made one false assumption and had
looked no further.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome thefreedomfighters to the Charlton
Internet Campfire and sometime Weenie-Roast. We are always
glad when another fan of the little Derby, Connecticut
company finds his or her way to our place. Settle in and
feel free to participate. <br><br>We are currently
voting on a list of 10 Charlton characters to go into a
drawing that one of the membership (a professional) has
graciously offered to draw for the club. Blue Beetle,
Captain Atom, and Nightshade are already in. But which
Charlton favorites would you like to see rendered? Let us
know!<br><br>Welcome Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...To start , anyway...<br> (1) KILLJOY
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yaay , hooh boy , rah , rah , etc.<br> (2) Winnie
Witch is her name ( Th' coupla ACG 'prints I have don'
say ! ) ? Serious-like , I was gonna vote for her ,
ANYWAY !...The granny-glass'd<br> femme host , sorta
Ch.'s answer to DC's Cynthia?...but , who came first
?...& who " created "/edited Cynthia ?...In
flashy/tacky 70s garb , pull-eazze !<br> (3) E-GIRL ( Remember
, E-man's goilfriend B-came...) !<br> More later !


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Don't forget to vote for the 10 Charlton
characters you would like Loston to put into the original
drawing he is doing for the club. Remember Blue Beetle,
Captain Atom, and Nightshade are already in. Which other
10 characters would you like to see. I will tabulate
the votes early next week, so get those lists
in.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I've had not takers on the most recent question.<br><br>What was the name of the University Nova Kane attended?<br><br>Hint:This school was a great place to hear tales.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Sorry Dean, I only have issue one of E-man, and it doesn't say--but it's in NY though --<br><br>Loston


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Doubtless it (or at least a branch) was in New York, but don't assume it was a real university.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The question:<br>What University did Nova Kane
(of E-Man fame) attend?<br>The answer:<br>Xanadu
University. <br><br>Yep, Nova attended the same University
that Professor Cyrus Coffin of "Midnight Tales" taught
at, and young Arachne Coffin attended. In fact there
is even a cameo by Arachne in an issue of E-Man.
This seemed at the time an attempt to tie-in the
various characters of the Charlton universe into
something approaching continuity. Outside of a few E-Man
posters in several comics I don't remember many other
such details. Does anyone else?<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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The results of the first poll are as
follows:<br><br>We begin with the three characters who were
definitely going to make appearances:<br><br>1. Captain
Atom<br>2. Blue Beetle<br>3. Nightshade<br><br>The top vote
getters in the first round of voting were:<br><br>4.
E-Man (5 votes)<br>5. Peacemaker (4 votes)<br>6.
Thunderbolt (4 votes)<br>7. Judomaster (4 votes)<br>8. The
Question (4 votes)<br>9. Dr.Graves (3 votes)<br><br>There
was a tie for the 10th spot:<br><br>10. Son of Vulcan
(2 votes)& Willie Schultz (2 votes)<br>
<br>Characters getting one vote each:<br><br>Archne
Coffin<br>Cheyenne Kid<br>The
Ghost<br>Punch<br>Jewelee<br>Gunmaster<br>Mr.Muscles<br>Capt.Boyd (Doomsday+1)<br>Michael Mauser<br>Gorgo<br>Tyro
Team<br>Yang<br>Smiling Skull<br>Abbott & Costello<br>Sarge
Steel<br>Wander<br>Phantom<br>Killjoy<br>Impy<br>Winnie the Witch<br>Nova<br><br>Given that we have clear
winners with multiple votes all that is left is to decide
which character will get the 10th spot.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Below is a list of names of various Charlton
characters who were in various ways the assistants or
"sidekicks" for different heroes.<br><br>Who did each of the
following character assist?<br><br>1. Tabu<br>2. Rosie
Redd<br>3. Gunner Goslin<br>4. Candy Orr<br>5. Nora
O'Rourke<br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good Afternoon!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I think I'd go for Willie Schultz for the 10th
spot, mainly because the list seems very super hero
heavy and I think a bit of balance would be
nice.Honestly, Dean, I have nothing against your namesake
:).<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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No offense at all Steve. I didn't vote on this
immediately myself because of the reason you raise, and that
is the list is very superhero and male heavy. Can't
do anything about the latter and I want to do the
right thing about the former, but I just want to see
what Loston can do with the old Son of Vulcan.
<br><br>So my vote for #10 is Son of Vulcan.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey Dean,<br><br> I think I was a little unclear
about the "given" characters--When I said I'd do
Capt.Atom, Blue Beetle, and Nightshade --I meant that I'd
throw them in for FREE in addition to the TOP 10 club
choices! Meaning there would be a final tally of 13
characters in the club pictures! Sorry, I wasn't clearer
about that.<br> So we have:<br>Capt. Atom<br>Blue
Beetle<br>Nightshade<br>1. E-man<br>2. Peacemaker<br>3. Thunderbolt<br>4.
Judomaster<br>5.The Question<br>6. Dr Graves<br>7. Son of
Vulcan<br>8. Willie Schultz<br>9?<br>10?<br> That's how things
should stand now I believe--<br>I think a second round
of voting is in order to determine the last 2
choices--What do you think Dean?


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Over the weekend, I made it around to several of
the local comic shops in my area. New to Raleigh,
myself and a friend explored 5 comic shops and I found
and purchased the following:<br>*Mysterious Suspense
#1 (Return of the Question)<br>*Ghostly Haunts
#39<br>*Blue Beetle # 52 (a 12 cent comic from '65<br>*Prof.
Coffin #19<br>*Midnight Tales # 17<br>*E-man #2 and #3
(Giving me all three of the first 3 issues)<br>*Ghosts of
Doctor Graves # 2<br>*Charlton Bullsey #4<br>*Haunted
#2!<br> Quite a Charlton haul!! I also bought Fantastic
Four #62, Nexus #7, and Turok Son of the Stone #109--A
great day indeed.<br><br>Loston


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My mistake. Okay let's try this again.<br><br> We
have eight characters selected in addition to Captain
Atom, Blue Beetle, and Nightshade. Making the cut were
E-Man, Peacemaker, Thunderbolt, Judomaster, The
Question, Dr.Graves, Son of Vulcan, and Willie Schultz.
That gives us a total of eleven so far. On the ballot
for the last two slots are:<br><br>Arachne
Coffin<br>Impy<br>Winnie the Witch<br>Cheyenne
Kid<br>Gunmaster<br>Wander<br>Mr.Muscles<br>Michael Mauser<br>Nova<br>Capt.Boyd Ellis
(Doomsday+1)<br>Yang<br>Sarge Steel<br>The Phantom<br>Killjoy<br>Gorgo<br>The
Ghost<br>Jewelee<br>Punch<br>The Smiling Skull<br>Abbot & Costello (2
characters)<br>Tyro Team (3 characters)<br><br>I believe this is a
full and accurate slate of all those characters which
recieved one vote each on the first ballot. Select two
which you think would work best on the drawing Loston
is planning for the club. Sorry for the
confusion.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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My votes are for<br> Cheyenne Kid  &<br> Winnie the Witch. <br>That gives us another genre and another female.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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My votes go to Jewelee (who would give a female /and/ a villain) and Sarge Steel, who also provides a different genre.<br><br>--Eric


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My vote is for Winnie the Witch--we need more Charlton babes in the club drawing--<br><br>Loston


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My other vote is for Impy--<br><br>Loston


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Good point Loston, and you may as well enjoy the
subjects so I'll cast a vote for Winnie the Witch and I'll
also cast a vote for Jewelee. That makes for more
subjects from the distaff side as well as including a
representative villian(ess) and a representative of the
horror/suspense genre.<br><br>Aren't you glad Gorgo isn't racking
up a lot of votes?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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With all the voting it's no wonder the most
recent quiz got lost in the shuffle. <br><br>Who did
each of the following characters assist?<br><br>1.
Tabu<br>2. Rosie Redd<br>3. Gunner Goslin<br>4. Candy
Orr<br>5. Nora O'Rourke<br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good
Afternoon!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>You could have also had a low (or is
it no) response to this because some of these are
just plain hard. I can identify only two.<br><br>1.
Tabu hung out with Peter Cannon,
Thunderbolt.<br><br>3. Gunner was friends with Captain Adam and Captain
Atom.<br><br>Rosie Redd has to be a Ditko character's friend, but I
can't remember which one, but I'll guess that she knew
The Question. I should know the other two, but I
can't place either right now. Hopefully I've made it a
bit easier for someone else, or harder because I took
the easy ones.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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my votes go to Winnie the Witch (don't know the character but a great name) and Michael Mauser.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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See now that wasn't that hard.<br><br>Tabu was
Peter Cannon's conscience and punching
bag.<br><br>Gunner Goslin was Captains Adam/Atom's best
friend.<br><br>Rosie Redd is not a Ditko character. Though I see why
you thought that. Hint: She replaced Bambi Baxter in
a 70's series.<br><br>Hint:Nora O'Rourke was a
later addition to a 60's series.<br><br>Hint:Candy Orr
was a 70's character and really part of a team more
than a sidekick.<br><br>Hopefully someone will come up
with these last three.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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My picks would be:<br><br>Sarge Steel<br>The
Question<br>The Phantom<br>The Sentinels<br>The Fightin'
Five<br>Nature Boy<br><br>I'd like to see those characters make
the cut, but I'm a fan of the more obscure ones,
anyways...


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That sounds great Loston. What say we set Friday
morning as the cut-off for the second ballot.<br><br>I
would very much like to see the work in progress. I
take your point about the front page image not giving
enough resolution. You can see it if you click on it but
that many characters would probably blend out in such
a small space. <br><br>The idea for the logos is
ideal. I personally have always loved the "Big Red C"
and of course the Bullseye would be appropriate.
<br><br>This is sounding better and better.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Let me apologize to Loston. This morning I was
having a fit with my computer and I accidentally deleted
Loston's original message. I would invite him to repost
it, but let me try to get out the gist of
it.<br><br>He indicated that the front page image was too small
to really do justice to such a complex image. He
recommended linking it.<br><br>He said that he planned to use
the Charlton corner logos in the compostition.
<br><br>He also would like to know if the membership would
be interested in viewing the work in progress, and
if so he would post certain stages of the
work.<br><br>Lastly he wanted the voting to come to an end in a few
days. I agree and I have scheduled the voting to come
to an end Friday morning for the second
ballot.<br><br>Loston- If I have mangled your original message I
apologize and invite you to clarify my ramblings. I want to
apologize again for deleting the original message. Yahoo is
a very well-named organization in particular
instances.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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One other thing Dean--I mentioned that I'd
provide two links to the illustration. One at 72 dpi (for
fast viewing, and one high-rez version for club
members to download. Can't wait to get
started.<br><br>Loston


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Thanks for checking back in Loston. There you
have it folks, get those votes in. Early indications
are that Winnie the Witch looks good for one slot,
but the other one is wide open. I am anxious myself
to see just what Loston can do with our favorite
characters.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Time's tickin' away folks!!  Vote!! Vote!!<br><br>Tick Tock, Tick Tock....<br><br>Loston


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Loston,<br><br>Thanks for the reminder, but I've
already voted and can't do so again unless we're playing
by Chicago rules.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/hawkmansroost target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/hawkmansroost</a><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atomicgoldandsilver</a>


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I believe I already voted for 1-2-3 ???????<br>
(4) Didn't Dr. Graves have a female assistant ? <br>
(5) " Bleeding-heart liberal " type , crying , from
Killjoy . <br> (6) Michael Mauser .<br> (7) John Byrne .
( Who caricatured himself a <br>lot , in the Rog
strips . )<br> (8) Doctor Graves .<br> (9) Rog 2000 .
<br> (10) BARNEY GOOGLE , HIS HORSE ( Whom C. Schulz
was nick'd after , ya know . ) , SNUFFY SMITH ,
LOWEZ-ZZZY , HIS KID , AND THE OTHER UNNAMED? MOUNTAINEER ,
THE KID'S GIRLFRIEND , PLUS EVERYBODY ELSE
!!!!!!!!!<br> ALL SEVENTIES ! BWAH HAH HAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!!!!!
<br>HAMILTON , JOE FRANK , & REYNOLDS PLAY ON FOREVER IN THE
RADIO SHACK CLOCK RADIO UP THEYYY-AH IN THE SKY
!!!!!!!!! ( Okay , okay , you kkinn mebbe substitute
Tiffany Sinn 4 Da last one , that's is , if'n Ya Wants 2
. ) ( I don't even know that Barney G. w/th.
goo-goos , etc. , plus his horse , <br> ever even APPEARED
in the Charlton title . )<br>UNDERCOVER ANGEL ,
MIDNIGHT FANTASY.........


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The polls have closed on the second ballot and
the results for the two remaining slots
are:<br><br>Winnie the Witch (4 votes)<br>Jewelee (2
votes)<br><br>Thanks to those of the membership who voted (even when
things became confusing) and I look forward to Loston's
work soon gracing these virtual halls.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Answers to the most recent Charlton Trivia Quiz
are as follows:<br><br>Tabu was Peter Cannon's
assistant and conscience.<br><br>Gunner Goslin was with
Captain Atom from before the beginning as both a trusted
friend and helper.<br><br>Rosie Redd was one of many
young women who helped Michael Mauser with his
secretarial needs.<br><br>Nora O'Rourke was a mid-series
addition to the adventures of Peacemaker.<br><br>Candy Orr
(love that name) was one of three intrepid souls (with
Eric Redd and Tulsa Coyle) who formed the Vengeance
Squad.<br><br>This proved either more difficult or far less
interesting than I anticipated. Unitl next time<br>Lotsa Luck
and Good Afternoon.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I put the Question of the Week on hiatus while
the voting was going on so as not to create too much
confusion but now that we have a decision let me introduce
this thought experiment to the
membership.<br><br>Currently DC is experimenting by having Stan Lee reimagine
many of their famous heroes. In other words what would
Superman have been like if he had gotten the Stan Lee
treatment. Since I am of the school of thought which holds
that neither Stan nor Jack Kirby could have done it
alone why don't we alter the program a
little.<br><br>Let's try that with the Charlton heroes. What would
Captain Atom be like if Stan and Jack got their hands on
the character? How would his circumstances be
different? What about Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, or
Thunderbolt? What would Stan have done with the Fightin' Five
or The Sentinels or Billy the Kid or the Tyro Team?
Nightshade? <br><br>Maybe this idea is too wacky to work but
what do you think? How would the Charlton universe be
different if Stan and Jack had worked that Marvel magic on
it?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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We all know what Captain Atom looks like. Just
take a peek at the cover currently serving as the club
picture and you have a great image of Cap's first uniform
from his 60's heyday. <br><br>But did you know that
Captain Atom's costume was originally colored light blue
with purple and and light yellow trim? Not on any
covers, but in the origin story from "Space Adventures"
#33 March 1960 Cap has a completely different look.
After this initial story the colors reverted to the
gold and red and orange we are more familiar with. Now
that I'm thinking about it Captain Atom in his various
incarnations over the years and companies has maybe had as
many costumes as that most famous sartorial chameleon
Hank Pym. <br><br>What is the opinion out there on the
costume Cap got at the end of the L.A.W. mini-series? It
of course is the same as the character wore in
"Kingdom Come", but is it an improvement or a
mistake?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Words cannot describe how much I hate the
Captain's new look. To be honest, I didn't like the costume
he was given at the start of L.A.W. either. I
thought his previous look was perhaps his best ever.
Especially after he was given the power gauntlets and boots
in Extreme Justice.


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New question for the membership. <br><br>Lewis
Coll became which of the following Blue Beetle
villians?<br><br>A. The Praying-Mantis Man<br>B. The Red Knight<br>C.
Mentor the Magnificent<br><br>Come on take a shot. What
can it hurt?<br><br>Lotsa Luck and Good
Afternoon!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I have to admit that I always liked "Extreme
Justice". Despite its obvious attempt to mimic the style of
Image comics, it was a well-paced and generally
well-drawn comic. Captain Atom looked very good there
too.<br><br>My favorite costume though for Cap was the second
one done for him by Ditko. The red, white,and blue
color combination worked well and that costume a
quality of practicality to it that always seemed logical
to me. He wore no mask, but generally I have always
thought masks to be ineffective and unconvincing
disquises. Cap always seemed to have a smile on his face in
those issues. You don't see a hero having fun like that
anymore.<br><br>My opinion of the L.A.W. costume was I much
preferred the first to the second. The Kingdom Come version
seems too busy in its design to be generally effective.
Although I do applaud the attempt to return to something
akin to the original color scheme, this costume is not
a success.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Your question of the week is far too
abstract for me; I wouldn't touch it with a stick. I
cannot imagine the Charlton heroes as being other than
they were, and frankly I wouldn't want to. They were
an alternative to Marvel and DC and I don't want to
imagine them recast in the Marvel mold, bad enough that I
had to see the treatment they received at
DC.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Hey folks, thanks for voting on your favorite
characters! It is an impressive list to be sure. If someone
you like didn't make the cut, I'll make you a deal:
email me a jpg of that character, and I might be
inclined to add them somewhere in the background! But I
won't guarantee it. The 13 voted Characters take
priority. I won't have a chance to start the club picture
this week, because I am currently swamped with work,
but next week I hope to be uploading some rough stuff
to show you! I can't wait!<br><br>Loston


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Jon-<br><br>Sorry. Didn't mean to weird you out
on that question. What prompted it were two things.
One was the current DC series in which Stan Lee
reimagines the DC characters. The other was the stories
drawn by Dan Reed for the original "Charlton Bullseye"
in the early 80's. Reed used a distinctly Kirbyesque
style to render both Captain Atom and Blue Beetle. It
was not a successful attempt in my estimation, but
any port in a storm was my motto as the characters
weren't appearing anywhere at the time. <br><br>I agree
that the characters are very distinctive, but I can't
really agree that I wouldn't want to imagine them
another way. It seems all that will be revealed is
perhaps the little touches that made them so unusual and
interesting at the time.<br><br>Let me broaden the question a
bit and ask the membership which Marvel teams would
in your estimation be best suited to each of the
Charlton Action Heroes.<br><br>For instance, I think
Conway and Colan could do a interesting turn on
Peacemaker. Colan's realism would work well on that
character's world.<br><br>Jim Steranko might could do all
kinds of interesting things with Peter Cannon,
Thunderbolt.<br><br>John Romita and Stan Lee could give Nightshade a very
nice set of stories in my estimation.<br><br>There you
go. That's what I'm thinking of. I agree it is pretty
strange.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thank you Loston. I really am looking forward to seeing this wonderful piece of artwork. Good Luck with this project.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hmmm...Let's see...<br><br>1. Steve Gerber/Gene
Colan on the Question.<br>2. Stan Lee/Gil Kane on the
Blue Beetle.<br>3. Jim Starlin on Captain Atom.<br>4.
Jack Kirby on the Fightin' Five.<br>5. Doug
Moench/Paul Gulacy on Sarge Steel.<br>6. Steve
Englehardt/John Romita on Nightshade.<br>7. Barry W. Smith on Son
of Vulcan.<br><br>Maybe more thoughts
later,<br>--Eric


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...Didn't my votes get counted ????????? I DID come up w/thirteen Ch. charactes ( admittedly , inc. supporting characters )...Wuzzit that 13 got more 'n one ?????????


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Waltsland-<br>Your first three candidates were
counted and were put onto the second ballot. Your final
votes were for characters not already on the
established second ballot and so it was not possible for me
to work them in. It certainly wasn't because they
were obscure (we had Abbot and Costello on the ballot
for Gosh sakes!) but that it would have required
restarting the voting with a new second ballot slate. Loston
needed the information in order to get started on the
picture. Sorry if it seemed your votes didn't count.
Frankly I liked a number of the characters on your
list.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: 400th Message /Thanks /25 Best  Comics !
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While things get slow here from time to time, we
have had some very rich bursts of activity. A club
like this works because a steady handful of people
make a point of coming to the club and participating.
I want to thank those of the membership who
converse here regularly, and I would like to extend an
invitation to those who don't to take a moment and put up a
message about one of our favorite defunct comic
companies.<br><br>It has become a goal of mine to have something new
going on here every couple of days at least, but
sometimes the response is such that I leave questions or
trivia or such up to garner responses over time. I love
the characters of Charlton, but I don't want my
adoration to overwhelm the interests of the membership.
What recommendations might anyone have out there for
directions we could go? I welcome your advice.<br><br>To
kick off a new line of discussion I would like to
borrow (steal) an idea from another Charlton discussion
group and assemble a list of the top Charlton comics of
all time. I don't mean characters, but actual comic
books. What issues from Charlton are especially
deserving of mention and inclusion on a list of all-time
greats. When I followed this before the list was for
something like 100 comics, but that became unworkable as
people were nominating whole runs of their favorite
comics. I would like our list to be a little more
discerning and limit choices to indivual issues. Certainly
more than one issue of a comic could be nominated, but
let's not say nominate issues #1-12 of Ghostly Haunts
for instance (I'm not picking on Ghostly Haunts by
the way). To make things more manageable let's put
the number at 25. You don't need to nominate 25, just
comics you think deserve to be in that ranking. We will
simply count votes and look for books which get the most
nominations. Again it may be necessary to collect some of the
nominations into a second ballot if clear winners do not
emerge. So to formally announce the latest Charlton
Bullseye poll:<br><br>What are the 25 BEST comics that
Charlton ever produced?<br><br>We await your nominations.
I will let you know mine after I've thought a
little. There is no rush on this one. Ponder and let us
know.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 01:57:37 -0700
Subject: More Thanks to the Original Founder!
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In my hurry to get to the 25 Best Comics Poll, I
neglected to mention the one person most responsible for
the Charlton Bullseye and that is Doc Quantum. He
created this club, and I would like to thank him for the
opportunity he gave me to become a founder. As I said at the
time, this is the club I would have created if it
weren't already here, and I don't want to overlook his
crucial and ongoing contributions to not only this club,
but the many clubs he has estabished out there in the
Yahoo wilderness. He recently put up several wonderful
images of Atlas-Seaboard covers over at the "Atlas
Seaboard Comics Society". They are beautiful and really
dress up the place. Thanks Doc.<br><br>One of Doc's new
clubs that could use some visitors is
<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/warishell target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/warishell</a><br>If you like war comics you may like what goes here.
<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety</a>


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1) Space Adventures (Captain Atom's 1st
appearance! I bought the reprint from the '70's (#9), but I
don't know the original number)<br>2) Doomsday + 1,
#1<br>3)Doomsday +1, #2<br>4)E-man #1<br>5)Ghostly Haunts #1<br>6)
Haunted #1<br>7)Haunted #3<br>8) Ditko Blue Beetle first
appearance (again, no number here--I don't tend to remember
#'s anymore folks.)<br>9)Doomsday +1, #3<br>10)" " ",
#4<br>11)" " ", #5<br>12" " ",#6<br>13) " " ", #7<br>14) Dr.
Graves, # 6<br>15) Charlton Bullseye #1<br>16) The
Question first appearance<br>17) Monster Hunters #1<br>18)
Haunted #2<br>19)Fighting Marines first book<br>20)
Monster Hunters #6<br>21)Doomsday+1, 8<br>22) Ghost Manor
#5<br>23) E-man #2<br>24) E-man #3<br>25)Any superhero book
before DC Comics bought em out--<br><br>Loston, the
vague


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Walter,<br><br>I think Dean is probably pretty honest about counting the vote; I suspect he even counted your questions as votes, but you can always demand a recount.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...I WASN'T accusing anyone of dishonesty . I
wasn't , it was true , aware of the one ballot/two
ballot split...Partly , I wasn't completely following
the club , during the <br>time of the voting ,...Also
, frankly , given my (1) relative unfamiliarity
with the Action Heroes , meaning the 60s characters ,
especially beyond the , umnm , " first division "<br>...who
(2) had already been stated as not really up for
voting/guarenteed a spot anyway ( CAtom , BBeetle , ? ) , not much
that I voted 4 was really likely 2 win , beyond mebbe
Winnie ? ( 'n' Killjoy ? Puuleeazzee ? )...As I've
stated B4 , I don't even , now , have posession of what
remains of my old colletion ! Th' CBA issue is ALL! the
reference that I have currently <br>available , really ! I
wouldn't mind a breakdown of all th' votes/ballots...Aannd
, I did vote for ten , remember...


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Thanks, Dean. I first started up this club
because I own a few Charlton Comics, and have always been
curious about the ones I've never seen, and thought this
would be a good way to learn a few things about this
company and its comics and characters. I must say that
I've learned more about Charlton through this club
than I ever knew about it beforehand! Thanks for being
a great co-Founder, Dean! You were BORN to do the
job, and very well, too...!<br><br>Doc


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Waltsland-<br><br>No offense taken. I don't know
frankly if the vote can be tabulated again since several
of us have posted votes over and over again
sometimes for the same character. I'm sure it might be done
with a lot of deciphering of post headings, but it
sounds like a major migraine to attempt. After I
reviewed your original nomination post which came in just
before the closing of the second ballot voting I only
noticed a few characters which might have changed things.
I was tempted to back up and count Rog-2000 again
because he is a favorite of mine. I didn't simply because
it would likely have muddled the vote beyond
reason.<br><br> Loston has volunteered to accept possible
additions if the proposers will send him some graphic
reference. That may be one way to get Killjoy into the
picture. I fully expect Loston to find some way to fit
Impy into the picture someway.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I make no guarantees about the club picture, but
if a jpg image of a character can be sent my
direction, I will try to fit them in somewhere. I
volunteered to do this picture without any compensation other
than to share my joy of Charlton Comics of yesterday.
I felt that to do things right by the club, I had
to be fair and put in characters that everyone
wanted to see--a vote was in order. Also, because I felt
certain characters needed to be there to keep my
interest, I decided my favs, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and
Nightshade had to make the grade (it wasn't like they
weren't gonna make the final cut anyway! These characters
were without a doubt amongst the most popular of
Charlton's lot!). So, I decided that 10 other characters
deserved the vote. That seemed perfectly fair to me. I
also know the value of space. I can't possibly do 50
characters in one drawing--Not for free, anyway--I'm just
too busy freelancing artwork! Besides, it all has to
sorta work as a club picture (which is really small,
even when clicked for a larger view), so the fewer
characters, the better. With the vote, and the 'Given 3',
that made for 13 characters. I figure I can squeeze in
a few more though. Why? Because I don't want to see
someone's fave get left on the cutting room floor, that's
why. I just can't say that a character not in the vote
or 'given 3' will DEFINATELY make it onto the piece.
We'll see how things go. Will Impy make it? Yep he
will. Unfair because I'm doing the drawing and want
that character to be there? You bet! That's part of my
compensation to myself. I've also been considering adding the
Doomsday+1 guys in the back somewhere. Want Killjoy to be
added? Send a jpg my way, and I'll try to make it
happen--<br> Rog-2000 or whomever else you'd like. Just do
your part folks and do some of the work for me. Send
me a jpg. If a character being on the illustration
is worth that much effort to you, then I'll try hard
to make him/her a spot.<br>As it stands at the
moment, I am engaged in 2 commission pieces of art, a new
FASA project (They're the Battletech people), A
Cavewoman comic one-shot, and a Animated style book for DC
Comics. I'm quite busy, but will attempt to start the
illo next week. My current thoughts are to make the
following characters part of the focus of the piece ( Ie:
some of the larger drawn figures) : <br>Captain Atom,
Nightshade, Blue Beetle, The Question, and E-man <br>Your
votes guaranteed spots for the ten that got
votes--They'll be there somewhere. I reserve the right to decide
HOW they will appear on the illustration, but if you
have some input, I'll listen to it at least. I still
want to incorporate the Charlton Bullseye logo in the
drawing. <br>One final thing:<br>So that I and every other
Charlton Club member is aware of the Given 3, and the 10
voted characters, would you be so kind as to post the
complete list Sonofvulcan? It might clear up some final
confusion. I will print that list and get back to folks on
whether or not I have reference for all the characters. I
have most of the references, but I'm sure there's a
character or two I do not have images of. If you could do
that Dean, I'd be forever in your debt.<br>Thanks
everyone,<br><br>Loston


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Thanks Loston for taking time to do this. We
really appreciate it. I am by no means a professional,
but I have done just enough artwork in my time to
have an inkling of what work it will be to get 13+
characters to work in one drawing. The list of characters
for the drawing:<br><br>1. Captain Atom<br>2. Blue
Beetle<br>3. Nightshade<br>4. Peacemaker<br>5. Peter Cannon,
Thunderbolt<br>6. Judomaster<br>7. The Question<br>8. Son of
Vulcan<br>9. Dr.M.T.Graves<br>10.E-Man<br>11.Willie
Schultz<br>12.Winnie the Witch<br>13.Jewelee (of Punch and
...)<br><br>There you go folks. Loston is being more than gracious,
and I am looking forward to seeing the final product.
Good luck on the work Loston.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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My nominations for the 25 Best Charlton comics
are:<br><br>1.Space Adventures #33 (1st Captain Atom/Really
Good!)<br>2.Captain Atom #84 (1st Red,White,&Blue costume)<br>3.Peter
Cannon,Thunderbolt #54 (Great PAM & 1st Sentinels)<br>4.Sarge Steel
#1 ('Nuff Said!)<br>5.Judomaster #93 (1st
Tiger)<br>6.Judomaster #94 (Last half of rare 2-parter)<br>7.Blue Beetle
#54 (Roy Thomas script-Great cover)<br>8.Blue Beetle
#2 (Ditko's best take on the character & the story
of Pago Island + The Question)<br>9.Peacemaker #3
(Subtle Boyette artwork undersea scenes done in beautiful
tones + great story)<br>10.Charlton Premiere #1
(Shape,Tyro Team,Spookman)<br>11.Midnight Tales #3 (Best
comic in a great series)<br>12.E-Man #1 (Breakthrough
story & The Knight by Sutton)<br>13.E-Man #6 (Best
comic in series + Rog 2000 debut)<br>14.Doomsday+1 #1
(Wonderful cover & great potential)<br>15.Vengeance Squad #2
(PAM at his best & Mauser)<br>16.Hercules #4 (Sam
Glanzman & full page shot of Atlas + Aparo's Thane of
Bagarth)<br>17.Fantastic Giants #1 (Konga & Gorgo & Ditko for 25
cents)<br>18.Phantom #74 (Don Newton's best + Patriotic
cover)<br>19.War and Attack #59 (Beautiful 2-color cover and great
interiors)<br>20.Ghostly Tales #55 (Mr.Dedd debuts)<br>21.The Many Ghosts
of Dr.Graves #6 (Any Grave might have done but this
one has a negative image serving as a
ghost-beautiful)<br>22.Texas Rangers #6 (Man Called Loco & maybe Charlton's
most evocative cover-extreme closeup of pensive
face)<br>23.Korg:70,000 B.C. #5 (Dinosaur cover & Boyette at his
best)<br>24.House of Yang #2 (Sanho Kim's beautiful work & great
script by Gill about Japanese in China)<br>25.Space:1999
#6 (John Byrne's best Charlton work- a subtle tale
of survival in space)<br><br>I put a restriction on
my list (you don't have to of course) of only one
comic from a series, and even then I broke the
restriction twice. I have no willpower at all.
Sigh!<br><br>Two works not on this list are Mysterious Suspense #1
which while I am glad DC reprinted it (any chance to
see the Big Red "C" again) has always seemed a little
leaden to me. Also Charlton Premiere #2 which has the
notorious "Children of Doom" story is not there, because
despite the many reputed merits I find it just plain
confusing.<br><br>The one book that didn't make the list that I regret
the most is Popeye #129. That issue has a delightful
image of a giant Sea-Hag holding Popeye and Cast, and
it would be representative of the absolutely
first-rate and often overlooked work by George Wildman on
this comic. Zany stuff!<br><br>I look forward to
reading everyone's lists. Remember you don't have to
nominate 25. If you can only come up with 10 or 15 or 2
that's fine. I doubt we'll come to any conclusions, but
it will be interesting to see what people
pick.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: New Club! (Another One!)
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I would like to invite everyone here at the
Bullseye to join me at a new club about my favorite kind
of comic, the Superteam comic. It's called "Super
Team Headquarters". There are Avengers and JLA sites
galore but I wanted to create a place where fans of the
form to gather and talk not only about the new ones
but the vintage teams like the Doom Patrol and the
Champions. Every team is fuel for discussion,and I am hoping
to build a rich source of team book links. So if
this sounds interesting take a look
at:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/superteamheadquarters target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/superteamheadquarters</a><br><br>I welcome any and all participation.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean, Funnily enough I've been thinking along
similar lines to this, wondering what other creators
might suit the Charlton characters. Sticking to Marvel
creators of the 60's and early 70's -<br>Blue Beetle-Stan
Lee and Gil Kane. It's easy to forget just how fun it
is to read some of Stan's dialogue (It may seem
corny and old fashioned to some but not to me). Gil
Kane did a great job on the Secret Origins Blue Beetle
story (my first exposure to the character) and for my
money no one drew more graceful action
comics.<br>Captain Atom-Stan Lee (again) and Jack Kirby and Joe
Sinnot. The team which to me invented cosmic
comics.<br>Nightshade-Stan Lee and Gene Colan. It was a split decision for
me as to whether Colan or Romita senior draw the
most beautiful women, gene won.<br>Son of Vulcan-Roy
Thomas and Jack Kirby. Thomas because he'd already
worked on the character (and I had to fit him in
somewhere) and Kirby again because...well, he's the
King!<br>Peacemaker-Jim Steranko.Great at action and outrageous super
technology.<br>Peter Cannon, Thunder Bolt-Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.I
had to include my favourite silver age writer/artist
team somewhere. Though I think Kirby was a better all
round artist the Lee/Ditko partnership on Spider Man
was flawless.<br>Well, thats all I can think of for
the time being. Now, if you want to know who I think
are the current creators who'd do a good job on the
charlton characters, that would be a different
story...<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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E-Man's inspiration was of course Jack Cole's
Golden Age creation Plastic Man. Did you know the two
characters did something of a crossover? <br><br>In E-Man #8
on the first page (if you look carefully ) you can
see Plas in the background. It's somewhat unclear,
but he may be transforming into a mailbox. Certainly
the famous Plastic Man colors are
present.<br><br>(Sigh!) One more comic for all the Plas completists to
look for!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Glad to have another new face here at the Charlton Internet Campfire. Don't hesitate to participate and let us know which Charlton character is your favorite.<br><br>Welcome!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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When I compiled my list of top Charlton comics a
few days ago, I forgot to list all of the Don Newton
PHANTOM ISSUES!! Believe it or not, that's my favorite
Charlton stuff ever produced!! How could this happen, you
ask? Well, other than being absent minded, I tend to
think of Don's work as DC COMICS related. I don't
associate Don with Charlton, even though he did Phantom,
and Monster Hunters and a host of horror titles
there. My bad! Add in all of Don's Phantom's to my list
in the first slots folks! His stuff was the very,
very best. I miss his work.<br><br>Loston


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I agree with you about Newton. He was one of a
handful of great creators taken in the prime of their
careers. I can immediately think of Jack Cole, Joe
Maneely, and Mark Gruenwald. Who else is there? I know
several young artists were lost in WWII and it is a pity
I don't know their names. Does anyone?<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Add Burt Christman, the first artist
to draw Sandman, to the list of artists who died
before their time. Christman either joined up or was
drafted and perished in W.W. II. He was a very good
artist whose work is largely unknown now. Had he lived
longer his name might be better known.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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Happy to welcome another new face to the Charlton
Bullseye. Don't hesitate to post your opinions on the
various questions and such that surface here from time to
time.<br>What's your favorite Charlton comic? Who is your
favorite Charlton character?<br><br>Welcome
Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha! <br>Dean


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Did you know that Professor Cyrus Coffin and his
niece Arachne are both members of the National Rifle
Association (NRA)? Yes, it's true. In issue #18 of "Midnight
Tales" (the final issue I believe) the Professor and
Arachne get their NRA cards in the mail.<br><br>Well I
guess those are two votes Young Al Gore can forget
about in the fall.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Howdy!I joined after lurking for awhile to access
your cover gallery.Pretty neat.I have a weird
affection for all the second tier superheroes of the
sixties from companies like
Charlton,Archie,ACG,Tower,etc.I really enjoyed the latest issue of CBA but it
left me with more questions than I started
with.Anyway,I may pop in now and then to pick the brains of the
other members about the questions I may have.Thanks


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Get your stinkin' paws off my 30.30 you damn, stinkin' comic characters!<br><br>LW


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Here's a recent commission I did of Two-face.
It's not Charlton related, but I thought it might be
something you might wanna check
out.<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/two-face.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/two-face.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Well put Dean!  Oh yeah, for anyone who wants a high rez copy of the two face illo:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/two-face2.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/two-face2.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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From one published artist to another: Beautiful.
Simply beautiful. I love the detail in the hair, and the
scarred side of the face, especially... it sharply
contrasts with the simple and handsome "good" side...


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Thanks doctorquantum! The actual final illo also
got zipatoned after I made the scan. Just the flags
and the "good" side of the jacket got the treatment.
I made the scan early to allow some of my friends a
chance to color the illo in photoshop without having the
hassle of "zip-dots". <br> I did try to make the
contrasting sides stand apart. I'm a big fan of Brian
Bolland, and I think he does the best Two-face around.
Someday I hope to become as good as he
is--someday.<br><br>Loston


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Brian Bolland is also one of my biggest influences in my artwork, as well as Jerry Ordway, and more recently, Will Eisner.


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I'm currently hard at work on a sizeable
Roleplaying game assignment fro FASA (the Battletech
company), but I've begun doing some thumbnails of poses I'm
thinking of incorporating in the drawing. I'll scan them
and upload them when I can catch a break--then I'll
post them here for you guys. They are only thumbnails,
but it should give you a vague idea of what the
picture might become.<br><br>Loston


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Who are Swift, Specs, and Creep? Have fun with
this one. <br><br>The answer to the last Trivia
Question was the Red Knight. If you examine the name Lewis
Coll carefully you will see the similarity to Lewis
Carrol from which the inspiration for the Red Knight
clearly came.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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If you haven't selected your 25 favorite/best
Charlton comics list by all means take a stab at it.
Remember even if you can't come up with 25 just list the
ones which you think stand out over the
years.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The Top 25, wow, that's a tough one...let's
see...<br>I can only base the list on issues I have since I
can't judge other stuff (duh)...so here
goes:<br><br>#1-#3 are Ditko's Blue Beetle #'s 1-3 (I'd like to
include all 5 Ditko Blue Beetles, but that will take up
too many choices)<br> I'd like to list all the issues
of Capt. Atom too, but it's the same problem, "too
many choices. So I'll choose a few and give
reasons:<br>#4 Capt. Atom #82 (first Nightshade)<br>#5 Capt.
Atom #83 (Blue Beetle)<br>#6 Capt. Atom #84 (new look
and Blue Beetle)<br>#7 Charlton Premiere #1 ( Grass
Green, Skeates/Montes/Bache and Boyette each with a
story)<br>#8 Charlton Premiere #3 (Sinistro, Boy Fiend)<br>#9
Danger and Adventure #22 (final pre-DC Ibis
story)<br>#10 Doomsday+1 #1 (had to include an issue - enjoy
most of the others though)<br>#11 E-Man #1 (again had
to include an issue - likewise, enjoy the whole
run)<br>#12 Fantatic Giants Vol 2 #24 (ALL Ditko issue
including Konga and Gordo - need I say more)<br>#13 Flash
Gordon #12 (beautiful Crandall work)<br>#14 Jungle Jim
#22 (Ditko/Wood art)<br>#15 Konga's Revenge Special
Edition #2 (I love the story where Konga shrinks and has
to fight spiders, snakes, rats, etc.)<br>#16
Mysterious Suspense #1 ("Return of the Question")<br>#17 The
Partridge Family Summer Special #5 (full page radio show
star drawings by Don Sherwood and ads for David
Cassidy stuff like: "super luv stickers" and "chocker
'luv' beads")<br>#18 Out of this World #15 (no reason
really, I just enjoy this issue)<br>#19 Phantom #74 (neat
cover and nice "The Phantom of 1776" story = both by
Don Newton)<br>#20 Scary Tales #40 ("The Dragon
Force" - I'm not sure why, but I enjoy this
issue)<br>#21 Strange Suspense Stories #75 (reprint of the
first Capt. Atom story, but I don't have the original -
so this'll do)<br>#22 (Peter Cannon---)Thunderbolt
#1 (I had to include an issue of this great P.A.M.
series and I figured the origin issue with a nice 3 page
Bache back-up was a good choice. "The Sensational
Sentinels" back-ups later in the series were good too
though)<br>#23 (Peter Cannon---)Thunderbolt #60 (the Thunderbolt
story was good, but "The Prankster" back-up stole the
show on this issue - I wish it had been
continued...)<br>#24 Wyatt Earp, Frontier Marshal #39 (great cover and
a good example of "western action" inside)<br>#25
War and Attack #1 (EXCELLENT Wood battle field
artwork throughout - I love to end on a high
note)<br><br>Well, that's 25. It was a hard call, and I'm sure I'll
think of others I should have included later. For now
though, this should do it.<br><br>~Jim


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Okay, here are two of the first thumbnail
sketches for the club picture. They are of Capt. Atom and
the Blue Beetle (who is more realized). They are not
actual size or to scale with how they will appear on the
page. They also may not be the final poses. I didn't
have a chance to upload any more, as I'm very busy,
but take a gander at these and let me hear your
thoughts.<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/charlton.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/charlton.jpg</a><br>This is only thumbnails folks, so anatomy and costume
details and lighting will be fixed or added later--and as
I said above, subject to change.
Enjoy.<br><br>Loston


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Dean,<br><br>Swift, Spec, and the Creep were
better known as Tyro Team. Creep actually had low-level
psi powers, the others had no special powers. As a
group they appeared exactly once and I believe the
artwork on the strip was by "PAM." It has been a LONG
time since I have seen Tyro Team but I thought they
had potential (as did 'The Shape' and 'Spookman' who
appeared in the same issue of 'Charlton Premier', someone
else will have to give the issue number.<br><br>Take
care,<br>Jon


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Loston-<br>Great looking. I love the Beetle's hands. The more I see of your work, the more excited I am becoming about seeing the final product.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Glad to see you are back Jon. Yahoo is not
letting me access your message, but just from what is on
the front page I can tell you have correctly
identified the Tyro Team. They appeared in Charlton Premiere
#1 along with Spookman and The Shape. Good
Going.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks Dean. I just want to find the free-time to
do the illo! I've got 13 pages of Crusible artwork
to do for FASA (the Battletech company) before I can
truly get to the "nitty-gritty" of the illustration.
I'm going to try to give the characters a bit of the
Ditko feel whenever possible, but the work will still
be my own. I'm also thinking about coloring the
piece in photoshop as well, so the finished piece might
take some time. I'll keep putting things up, and you
guys can follow this project along side me. Though I'm
in the driver's seat, I'm happy to have you all as
passengers. I think it's gonna look pretty good when it's all
said in done.<br><br>Later,
<br><br>Loston<br><br>Loston


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Which Charlton characters are primarily
associated with each of the following military leaders?
(Each General is connected to a different
character.)<br><br>1. General Hawkins<br>2. General Dove<br>3. General
Eining<br><br>Good Luck Fellow Charltonians!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey everyone--If you want me to include a
Charlton character who didn't make the vote into the club
picture, this week is the time to email me some jpegs of
that character so he/she can be added. Color reference
is especially appreciated! <br>My email address is :
lostonwallace@yahoo.com<br><br>Loston


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Welcome tomobo821 to the Charlton Bullseye. It is
always good to see new names and such here, and you are
very much welcomed to participate. We are currently
trying to derive a Top 25 List so if you can think of
any Charlton comics which deserve to be on such a
list let us know. What is favorite kind of comic? Who
is your favorite Charlton character?<br><br>Welcome
Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Well, all I can say is that it does my heart good to see those little Ditko sparks trailing behind the Captain...


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Well, I know #3: Gen. Eining was Captain Atom's commanding officer (later changed to Gen. Wade Eiling for the DC series), but I can't place the other two...


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Good Work Doc. General Eining was Captain Atom's military superior. <br><br>Still two more Generals to identify.<br><br>Good Luck Charltonians!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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One detail on General Eining is that he is of course the JLA villian "The General" formerly "The Shaggy Man" or as one fan put it "The Shaved Man". <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks for sizing the artwork currently serving as the club picture Doc. This cover of course features two of Ditko's best Charlton designs the Ghost and Nightshade. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I posted a link to the club on the X-Kubies' club, the club dedicated to former Joe Kubert Students like myself.  Maybe we'll get a few new members.<br><br>Loston


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Was Static the last character that Ditko worked
on for Charlton? I know he developed this character
in the last days of the company but was there
anything later than this? For the record, Static was one
of Ditko's most successful creations in my mind. He
was visually very interesting.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean, I believe Static was indeed the last Ditko
Charlton character and I agree with you about what a
fantastic design he is. But then again, I've seen very few
Ditko designs that didn't floor me. The man was a
genius. He was definately a bizarre character himself,
but he was one of the greats. <br><br>Loston


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Dean, your profile states that you are 43 yrs old
(13 yrs older than me) and that your interests are
comic books. Okay, that one was a given--but what are
some of your other interests, dude? Your favorite
quote is a line from Predator, but I really don't know
much about you other than the fact that you are quite
knowledgeable about comics in general and you seem to be a
genuinely nice guy. I know you have a couple of cool clubs
on yahoo--fill me in man!<br><br>Loston


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Very little to tell. I'm a teacher in High
School.<br>I spend an ungodly amount of time fooling with
comics and science-fiction movies. With an understanding
wife (also a teacher and a much better one in fact)
who sees the book collection as an unfortunate
step-child that lives in the basement and keeps hoping I
will mature. She hopes in vain I fear. My daughters
are two fine young women, one in college and the
other beginning high school. I am a very proud poppa
right now as just yesterday we got the news out oldest
may well have set a state record for the high school
competency exam. Nothing confirmed but she certainly did so
for the local district and maybe the first student to
do so well on a state level.<br>My youngest is a
self-professed "band geek" with some substantial gifts in that
area and is a full-blown teenager (pity my poor soul).
I'm one lucky guy.<br><br>As for the Jesse Ventura
line from Predator, it just happen to come to mind
when I was filling out the thing. Predator is one fine
movie though. <br>I can never remember how to spell
"Klaatu Barada Nicto" (see).<br><br>I've toyed around
with art and cartooning just enough to have some idea
how difficult it can be. It gives me a greater
appreciation I think for the stuff I see and read. I long ago
knew I might have the chops, but not the drive to make
it as a professional artist. As is obvious comics
are a nostalgia trip for me of the highest order and
I love reading them and reading about the arcane
history of their making. <br><br>Thanks for asking
Loston. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br><br>P.S. How are
you liking Raleigh? I assume you are still there.


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Wow! Sounds like you are indeed a lucky man!
Congrats to your daughter on her high performance scores!
And the other is a 'full-blown teenager'---Yikes!
Have you ever thought of trying the Joe Kubert
Correspondance courses? They are very expensive (as is
everything Kubert related--STILL in debt on student loans!),
but I've heard good feedback about the courses in
terms of their quality. I'm 30 years old, but I
inherited my uncle's comic collection when I was only 6.
Neal Adams Batmans, Wrightson Swamp Things, Kirby
FF's, and of course, Charlton Comics titles. Most of
which were things like Scary Tales, Ghostly Haunts, The
Haunt of Fear, Ghost Manor, etc.. Way back in '74, my
father gave me my first comic book. It was a Mike Grell
Batman. I was only four, but I could already read pretty
well. I used to take that comic book and trace Batman
panels by holding the comic to the window, and slapping
a piece of tablet paper over a page. The sunlight
would produce a lightbox of sorts. Then I'd start
tracing the figures! That's how I started learning to
draw! I've been drawing ever since, and I still have
that very comic in my collection! Believe it or not,
it's still in VG condition! I pull it out from time to
time when I'm feeling low, or artisticly frustrated. I
can still see the grooves around certain panels where
I'd traced the pages so long ago. Sigh---Even then I
wanted to be a comic book artist. I still want to be. I
am working for DC Comics License Department and
drawing Batman and Superman animated stuff, but someday,
I want to draw Batman comics. Not for myself so
much, but for that little kid who used to sleep with
his comics under his pillow.<br><br>Loston


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I discovered comics in the sixth grade. I had
always had a few here and there, but they were not
ubiquitous. I found that girls were attracted to the books in
the sixth grade and my meager art skills gave me an
in. We created a little club in which we each became
a hero (sounds familiar doesn't it) and the girls
needed artwork because you had to produce a poster shot
of your inspiration. I remember to this day tracing
Wonder Woman, Black Canary, and Nightshade images. For
myself I swiped the cover to Captain Marvel #1 (Marvel's
version) and Judomaster. Of the group that was into comics
then I am the only one left who pursues it. <br><br>I
found Charlton again with E-Man #6 and the passion for
the Derby Connecticut company has never waned. I even
have a pretty good set of Flinstone books from the
mid-70's. I actually had very few of the Action Heroes line
at the time. I was just a bit too young when they
first emerged and the ones I had my maternal
grandmother scouted up for me somewhere. I spent the better
part of the 80's putting together a solid collection
of Captain Atoms and Blue Beetles and such. I was
lucky really as the big investor boom hit right as I
was finishing that up. That is also true for some
Silver Age Marvel stuff I filled in. I couldn't begin to
imagine building my collection with today's prices. The
sad part is that most of what I have is positive
trash now. If I could get cover price for most of it I
would be surprised. Anyone looking for a complete set
of U.S.1 or The Human Fly? See what I
mean.<br><br>What is amazing is the early stuff almost burns itself
into your eyes. The imagery is as potent today as it
was then. I have powerful memories of Marvel
Superheroes #18 (the one that introduced the Guardians of the
Galaxy and currently on display in the Photo Album
labeled "Super Team Premieres") from when I carried it
back and forth to my grandfather's house while my
folks were out of town for a week or two. One horrible
thing I used to do was when I grew bored with the cover
of a particular comic I ripped it off so that I
could enjoy the splash page for a time. Can you imagine
doing that to a comic. Aarrghh! Ahh!
Youth!<br><br>WtPA!<br>Dean


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I just got ahold of some issues of this book
(issues 1 and 51 to 55,dig that crazy numbering eh?) and
would just like to thank the club members who
recommended it some to me some time ago.Sure the stories
sometimes seem corny, but I've got a fondness for the whole
scenario of a westerner raised by a mysterious oriental
society and granted amazing powers (as seen in Iron Fist,
some versions of the Shadow's origin etc). The art by
Pete Morisi was also very impressive, its a crime he's
not more widely appreciated
imho.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Glad you found the Tunderbolt to your liking
Steve. Pete Morisi is one of those artists who despite
the famous swipes has developed an atmosphere in his
work that no one else I know of can recreate. I kept
looking at the DC version of Thunderbolt when it came out
and I wanted to like it but I just couldn't get my
mind around it. The character seemed too
different.<br><br>The reserve of Peter Cannon and his sometimes
reluctance to get involved seems very real to me. It takes a
great leap for the average fellow to just go out and
right wrongs for people he doesn't know. To do it
regularly just as an altruistic act is truly unusual.
Peter's unwillingness to just jump right on in always
struck me as rather level-headed. Of course he always
did do the good thing, but unlike so many heroes it
wasn't just some unthinking reflex. <br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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As a matter of fact, I can imagine that Dean--I
did the same to a number of comics. When I was 4 or
5, and wasn't tracing the pages, I used to cut out
images of the heroes and play with them like action
figures. That was back before there was such a thing as
Star Wars figures! I was a bizarre kid I guess. I
wonder how many Superman's , Batman's and other comics I
chopped to bits? Often, I bought Charlton comics in an
illegal 3 pack which cost 35 cents per pack. Stores would
slice of the covers of unsold comics and send them
back, but would hold on to the interiors of the book
and stuff them into cellophane bags and try reselling
them, which I found out years later was completely
illegal. But I could get 3 comics for a quarter and later
for only 35 cents! I bought tons of those! But many
of my older Charlton's had no front covers! Later
on, those same stores started selling uncut comics in
a 3 pack in a similar way, so I started finally
getting my hands on complete Charlton books. I usually
got all my comics at a grocery store rack (those were
the days!), and there wasn't such a thing as a comic
book store back then, in my area anyway. <br> At any
rate, I had comic covers and other pin- ups hanging in
my room for years!<br><br>Loston


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Loston and I have been having a conversation
about lots of things but in the course of it we have
shared how we came by our Charlton addictions. It has
gotten me curious. How did most people here come by the
Charlton comics we all adore. Given that the company had
notoriously<br>bad distribution it might make for some interesting
storytelling. So let me put it to the membership:<br><br>How
did you first come across a Charlton comic? How did
you get your Charltons primarily?<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I think Thunderbolt's reluctance to get involved
in his adventures was quite well handled also, Dean.
I like Tabu's role as Peter's 'conscience' but I
hope that, if the series had gone on longer that the
'reluctant hero' bit might have been done away with.<br>As
for Morisi's art, when you refer to his swiping I
assume you're talking about his similarity to George
Tuska's work? I read about this in Morisi's interview in
Comic Book Artist but I don't believe I know Tuska's
art. Are there any online sites featuring the man's
work that you know of?<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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I believe my first exposure to Charlton occured
when I was about six or seven years old (this was in
the mid to late 70's). Where I grew up, in the North
of England we had a Saturday Market, one of the
pitches was an old blue caravan that sold old comics from
many different US companies, all at cover price! I
seem to remember being drawn to the Ditko horror
comics, many of them were Charlton's I recall. Of course,
as any comics fan will sympathise,my mother failed
to predict the emergence of the collector's market
for old comics and threw them all away! But I'm not
bitter...<br>Regards,<br>Steve.<br>P.S. Dean, as an afficianado of Atlas/Seabord
comics,did they produce a book entitled 'Tarantula' or
something like that? I definately remember owning it at one
point.


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Okay, I'm sorta left out, as I've already
mentioned how I came to know Charlton Comics. I'll share
this though--My absolute favorite Charlton Comics of
the '70s was Doomsday +1! I loved that concept! I'm a
big fan of those post-nuclear war yarns, I guess! And
John Byrne, though very green as an artist at that
time, did some very nice stuff. It rose above the
normal standards of Charlton. I believe Joe Gill wrote
that stuff. It somehow seemed more mature than most of
Charlton's comics. All those romance angles, mixed in with
sci-fi/high adventure. Those were the days.<br><br>Loston


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Ironically I just finished looking at some George
Tuska artwork on WHAT IF #5 featuring a tale of Captain
America and what would have happened if both he and Bucky
had been active past WWII. I can't immediately think
where you might find any interior artwork but I know
many early Iron Man covers feature his work. You might
try Cheeks The Toy Wonder's site and see if he has
anything up on Iron Man and you might run across
something. <br><br>The closeness of Tuska and Morisi is
marked. I assumed as did apparently many folks that PAM
was a psuedonym for Tuska's non-Marvel work. George
Tuska is in my mind the definitive Iron Man artist. His
ability to communicate the idea of a man in a suit of
metal is unmatched in my eyes. His early work I am less
familiar with.<br><br>By the way I agree that the
reluctant hero bit would had to have been ejected as it was
already wearing a bit thin. The formula was somewhat
abandoned when Boyette did some issues of the series
towards the end. I believe the writer for those issues
was Denny O'Neil.<br>Good Luck!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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For sure there was an Atlas-Seaboard series
called "The Tarantula". It ran in a comic entitled
"Weird Suspense" and lasted three issues. There is some
remarkable Pat Boyette artwork in those issues and it was
one of the stronger Atlas comics in my estimation.
For more detail check out the Atlas Seaboard Comics
Society where I have a post on Weird Suspense detailing
the credits and giving a more thorough description.
<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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What an idiot. I forgot to give the address:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From the DC Who's Who books, for your viewing pleasure, and, if he needed them, for Loston's perusal for costume details.<br><br>--Eric


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Punkybluester,<br><br>You are quite thoughtful to
add those up for the club, and for me! I have all the
Who's Who comics, but they are boxed away in my closet.
Since the move, I've had no time to search through my
vast collection of comics. This makes my life a little
easier. I'm probably going with the original Captain Atom
costume though. Man, I love that Blue Beetle entry!! What
a fantastic drawing! Thanks again!<br><br>Loston


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Hey gang, like it says above, this is the 'NEXT
TO THE LAST CALL' for suggestions on heroes to add
to the Charlton club picture list. If you suggest
something, please provide me with a reference for those
characters in the 'photos' section, or via email. If you
have no scanner, provide a link to a website that has
reference. Here's who will make appearances on the drawing
so far:<br>Captain Atom (old costume)<br>Blue Beetle
(Ditko version)<br>Nightshade<br>Peacemaker<br>Peter
Cannon, Thunderbolt (with or without
pants?)<br>Judomaster<br>The Question<br>Son of Vulcan<br>Dr. Graves(Need some
extra reference here)<br>E-man<br>Willie Schultz (I
still need reference for him! HELP!)<br>Winnie the
Witch (I could use some more reference on her too. I
have some, but again, my stuff is boxed away. She also
had glasses on and off--Which version do you
like?)<br>Jewelee (Don't know this character--Definately need
reference here!)<br>Phantom (Don Newton
version)<br>Doomsday +1 members: Boyd, Kuno, Jill, and Ieki<br>Impy
(any extra reference would be appreciated, but I have
some)<br>Blue Beetle (original version)<br>Arachne (But I need
reference again! She's got black hair and a hair band, but
I could use more info)<br>I would like to include
all the 'Ghost hosts' I remember a redheaded
vampire-like chick--and several others--need
reference!<br>I've still got some room, so a few others can be
added--Help me out folks! This picture is for
YOU.<br><br>Loston


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Hey Dean & the gang! I scanned in and added the
covers for Phantom #73 and Doomsday +1, #1 to the club
photo section. I have all of Newton's Phantoms, and the
complete run of Doomsday +1 so I hope to add those covers
as times goes on! Enjoy!<br><br>Loston


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Thanks Eric and Loston for the new Photos. I
highly recommend the folks take a gander at these if
they haven't seen them (and even if they
have).<br><br>Those Charlton entries were the main reason I even
bought the DC Whos Who issues. They are great takes on
the classic Action heroes.<br><br>Loston I am unable
to help on the art references save maybe for
Dr.Graves. I know where some covers are and I will try to
link them in over here into a Photo Album. I have just
what you need but unfortunately I still lack the
scanning ability even Korg and his buddies back in the
cave probably have by now. I think there were Jewelee
and Punch illos in the Whos Who editons.<br><br>Good
Work! The Club picture seems to be growing! Sounds
great!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey Dean, <br><br>Any chance you could photocopy some of that stuff for me and mail it out?  I'll reimburse you.  If so, I will email you my address.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Loston


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Today, yahoo seems slower than molasses in winter time!  Must be under attack again.  <br><br>Loston


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I have some time tomorrow and I'll check to see
what I can dig up. I only have access to B&W copiers
put with a few color references that might be enough.
You need reference on Winnie the Witch, Baroness Von
Bludd, Impy, Jewelee, Arachne and Dr.Graves. Is that
all?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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You can include any one else you'd like to add to
the picture Dean. Killjoy has been suggested, but
I've no reference for him. Anyone you'd like, you can
add reference for. I will reimburse you. I'm emailing
you my address in a few minutes.<br><br>Loston


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Yikes! Your email isn't listed Dean! Oops--!  Mine is though, so you can email me, and I'll reply back with my address info.  Ok?<br><br>Loston


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Dean,<br><br>For some reason, Charlton always had
good distribution in Wyoming. You could go to the
smallest town and find Charltons in with the sparse
selection. Of course, when Charlton wasn't very interesting
in the 50s and looked crudely printed, they didn't
seem like much of a treat.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Steve,<br><br>George Tuska is best remembered as
a crime comics artist, although he did his share of
westerns and romance comics as well. He did quite a few
issues of Iron Man and he filled in on many a Marvel
book, apparently being someone who could produce a fill
in issue on short notice. Unfortunately, his best
work was done in the late 40s and early 50s and most
of his Marvel work looked rushed and/or inked by
less than ideal inkers. I sincerely doubt that anyone
would have a website devoted to him, as he didn't have
that much of a following from the 60s on. His early
work was good, but he turned into something of a
hack.<br><br>My two cents,<br>Jon


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Jon-<br><br>I too must have lived in one of the
rare pockets where Charlton actually delivered product
to. I was always able to find most all of it at my
local newstand or drugstore stand. One thing that
promoted my Charlton collecting was in the mid-70's when I
latched onto the new E-Man comic and some of the newer
Ghost books was a particular little antique store/flea
market place out in the middle of nowhere which seemed
to have a limitless supply of Charlton comics. I
made many visits there in the summer before I went to
college and found just piles of great stuff. Lord only
knows what in my ignorance I left behind.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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George Tuska a hack? You are going to make me
cry. I would never consider the wonderful Tuska a
hack. Sure he was able to get the product done on
deadline, but it was always good storytelling and seemed
well done to me. I admit that he did suffer more than
most from some very indifferent inking on occasion.
His early Iron Man work was inked by Johnny Craig.
Now there was a team! I always found Tuska's work
very dynamic and clear.<br>I really had no idea how
long George Tuska had been in the business until I saw
that he was in the same shop as Jack Kirby and other
40's guys in Will Eisner's "The Dreamer".<br><br>Pete
Morisi's take on Tuska was really a refining of Tuska's
basic shapes and faces with a very Caniff flavor to the
weight of the lines. I always was struck by the fact
that PAM didn't often make use of the motion lines to
indicate the direction of punches and such. It gave his
work a rather refined quality that I think makes it
seem rather sterile sometimes, but very
attractive.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I agree, Tuska had a unique style, but he was definatly never a hack. I can't remember the first time I saw his art, but I always recognized it when I saw it.


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From: sonofvulcan
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Subject: Off Topic- TANDRA?
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I'm going off topic today to ask a question. How
many of the membership are familiar with the Hanther
(the name of the writer-artist) independent comic
TANDRA? It has been in some form of production or other
since the early 70's and now seems limited to only
internet activity. I am not some overwhelming fan of the
comic, but I have recently come close to finishing my
collection of TANDRA albums (the comics were collected
through the late 70's and 80's in magazine size "graphic
albums".)and I am rereading the series through. During the
comic boom of the early and mid-90's TANDRA was a
regular-sized comic with a run of about a dozen issues. The
creator is located in Mississippi and he is by all
protestations a wildly independent fellow. The story has by
most indicators developed at a snail's pace though
generations of characters have become involved. The most
accurate desription I can think of is John Carter of Mars
meets Prince Valiant. The comic is filled with buxom
(and to his credit really) sometimes not-so buxom
ladies and various men in sometimes extreme states of
undress. That is I'm sure a major selling point for the
book, though more recent issues have focused on the
politics and philosophy of the characters and by indirect
analysis the creator. <br><br>Hanther has always put me
into the mind of Steve Ditko. He has ferocious
political views and seems to put his money where his mouth
is. Despite the opinion of the ideas, that is always
an admirable act. I'm curious what others who may
have chanced upon TANDRA may have to say. There is no
Yahoo group for this comic and frankly I would have
little interest in one, but for this moment what's the
word?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. The Internet URL for the
TANDRA site is:<br><br><a href=http://www.tandra.com target=new>http://www.tandra.com</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:58:27 -0700
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From: walterwego2000
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Subject: A couple of questions?
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After Charlton quit publishing its version of
Bullseye {As opposed to the fanzine version}They seem to
publish some new material in Scary Tales.The book was
half reprint and half new with a reproduction of the
cover to an unused Bullseye in one issue.I have a few
of these issues but not all of them.Anyone know
anything about this?Also on some of the covers in the
photo section show that little US map that was I
believe the mark of the Distributor.You see the same
symbol on DC comics of the same era.Anybody
knowledgeable about this topic?Man,if this isn"t esoteric
fanboy stuff I don't know what is.thanks


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On your question about unused Bullseye material,
I don't know for certain but my assumption has
always been that yes those were stories originally
planned for Bullseye that saw print in Scary Tales. The
quality seemed to be about the same. <br><br>On your
second question I have no idea. This seems like a good
for one for Jon. That's the kind of thing he seems to
know about and the comics in question come from his
prime era I think.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S.
Fanboy Lovers of Esoterica Unite!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:50:16 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:50:16 -0700
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I've been dying to find a way to work that phrase
into a message here. I have posted my e-mail address
with my personal data so you can send me your snail
mail address and I can get that Charlton reference
material to you. I have it ready to go. I tried to send
you an e-mail but perhaps it didn't make it through
the ether.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Oh no, I know the symbol you mean, a little icon
of the U.S. and Canada with the letters "ID" or
"IN." I know that almost all of the books of the
mid-fifties through the early sixties carried it, except Dell
and, later, Gold Key. I know it is a distributor's
symbol but other than that I'm only able to speculate.
As you mentioned, it's pretty esoteric. For some
reason, I always thought it stood for something like
"Independent Distribution" although I have no idea how I came
to that conclusion.<br><br>Just as baffled as
you,<br>Jon


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:36:26 -0700
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Perhaps I should have explained my puzzlement a
bit better.Sometimes my thoughts get ahead of
themselves when I post online.I think the North America icon
is a distributors mark,but I was under the
impression that Charlton was self distributed.Seeing that
mark was mystifying to me.Most of the info I have on
this subject was derived from the Charlton issue of
Comic Book Artists( a great issue but raised more
questions )I hope the follow up issue will answer a few .I
realize question about distributors is pretty mundane to
even the most avid fanboy but it is interesting to me
in that it gives some clues into the motivation and
thinking of the comic book biz. thanks walter wego


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Dean,<br><br>I emailed my address to you a second time.  Hopefully you'll get it this time.  I haven't a clue what happened to the message I previously sent.<br><br>Loston


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You get it?<br><br>Loston


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Don't apologize. I love this kind of miniscule
detail. I find the answers to these little questions
unlocks whole areas of detail and reflection I hadn't
before explored. This question certainly has for
me.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:33:03 -0700
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I have it. Thanks for sending it. I have no idea what happened to the first. I guess it's lost in the electrical ether which thanks to Al Gore we all have ready access to.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:43:45 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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This question has gotten buried so let me dust if
off and offer it again. <br><br>Which Charlton
characters are primarily accociated with each of the
following military leader? (Each is connected to a
different character.)<br><br>1. General Hawkins<br>2.
General Dove<br>3. General Eining<br><br>#3. General
Eining has been correctly identified as the commanding
officer of Captain Adam /Captain Atom. <br><br>I still do
not have answers for # 1. and #
2.<br><br>Hints:<br><br>General Hawkins would be an extremely old man if he was
real.<br> <br>General Dove showed up in two different
strips but only one comic.<br><br><br>Good Luck
Charltonians!<br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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1. General Hawkins<br><br>General Hawkins was
from the JUDOMASTER comic, which took place in the
Pacific Theatre of War, in World War II. I just checked
one of my Judomaster comics after Dean so generously
gave the hint he did...<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:48:24 -0700
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Keeeerect Sir! General Hawkins (Boy did he look
like his name or what with that nose!) was indeed the
man who gave Rip Jagger the Judomaster his marching
orders. Good Job!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. On
the one which is left think "Irony".


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:15:05 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:15:05 -0700
Subject: Drawing update
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As of the last week, I have been extremely busy.
I've been working on a new roleplaying game for FASA
called Crucible. It is a dark fantasy game that has kept
me more than busy, so I haven't done much on the
drawing this week. As soon as my work load lightens, I
plan to take advantage--producing more stuff. As it
stands now, I have more thumbnails to upload though.
Like the Capt. Atom and Beetle sketches, they are
pretty rough. If I get more free time soon, I'll at
least upload them. Remember folks, I draw for a
living--paid stuff takes priority. I can't wait to start on
the main finished piece though!<br><br>Loston


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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:20:41 -0700
Subject: THE LAST CALL!!
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Okay club members. I'm making this the last call
to send me reference for the club picture. ( I hope
you added a few of your favorites in envelope you're
sending me Dean!) I'm giving you guys until this Sunday
at 12:00 midnight to send me any emails containing
reference--after that, the club picture is set pretty much in
stone! No late additions will be added! If you'd like a
chance to include someone--NOW'S THE TIME! tick, tock,
tick , tock, tick, tock, tick---<br>Don't say I didn't
warn ya!<br><br>Loston


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There is a character in the package not on your
list. Rog-2000 is one of my very favorite Charlton
creations and I sent you a illustration of the lovable
robot. I also sent some material on Colonel White-Shroud
the host of "Monster Hunters". I seem to remember you
speaking highly of him here before. <br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks Dean! Yeah I loved "Monster Hunters"!
First exposure to Don Newton was in that
magazine--Rog-2000, I also remember! I never owned an issue, but I
remember the character, none the less--He will be added
gladly! Hurry people, time is running out!<br><br>Loston


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Here is the answer for General Dove. He made
appearances in both the E-Man and Rog-2000 strips.<br>He
first showed up in E-Man and was beautifully rendered
with a Popeye-like jaw and mirror sunglasses by Joe
Staton. He appeared again in E-Man and also made a visit
to Rog-2000 where John Byrne had a chance to draw
the General. He was a sterotypical figure in his look
but not his characterization. He was presented with
some sense of balance and calm.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Who was the Mercury Man?<br><br>Let's hear from you my fellow Charltonians.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:17:52 -0700
Subject: I got mail!
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Dean,<br>I received your reference photocopies
today--THANKS MAN! I've been away at a convention today, and
spent much of my day talking "shop" with Charles Vess
and Mark Schultz! Two of my art favorites--artisticly
and personally, and managed to purchase a Schultz
original cover pencil original! It isn't Charlton stuff,
but I'm providing a link so that my online friends
here can take a look at it! Dean, as a Jonny Quest
fan, you might find this particularly interesting!
Enjoy--I know I
am!<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/SchultzQuest72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/SchultzQuest72.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Too many "originals" in the last posting! Sorry--been a long day!<br><br>Loston


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Glad the material made it. The original was
great. Thanks for sharing it with us.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. Any word when Schultz might be getting anymore
Xenoxoic material out onto the market. He has me hanging
on by a thread here.


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According to Mark, he has plans to do more
Xenozoic Tales issues, but for now he's busy writing--He
is illustrating a hardback collection of Robert E.
Howard's Conan stories however--and he showed me some of
his work on that--which was, of course, fantastic! He
has altered Conan appearance wise though, which I'm
not so sure I like. Schultz is trying to do something
other than the 'Boris-style Conan' -- instead, opting
for a more realistic, Russel Crowe type of
character.<br>In my view, despite digging the artwork he showed
me, I felt it wasn't SAVAGE enough to be Howard's
Conan. REH discribed the Cimmerian as having thick
muscle throughout his chest, back, arms and legs--with a
trim, lean waist line, towering over six and a half
feet tall. Schultz's version just seemed a little
tame. Even Conan's hair length had been shortened
dramaticly. I'm a huge Mark Schultz fan. I'm a huge Conan
fan. I look forward to the hardback anyway, as several
illos were more in line with Howard's way of thinking
than others. All of the illustrations were absolutely
amazing! I just don't know if there quite the Conan I
would have hoped for.<br><br>Loston<br>PS: Regarding
the illo : It was my pleasure!


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I was in the Chapel-Hill/NC State region this
weekend visiting my girlfriend and I noticed that I
passed right through Cary. I don't remember how close it
was to UNC-CH, but there's an awesome comic shop down
off of Franklin St. there, in this weird little
shopping complex. If you follow the signs to Back Door CDs
(also worth a look if you're a music fan), it's right
beside of that, all the way around the building and down
two flights of stairs. I got the CBA issue there,
finally(!), and the 6th issue of the Huntress mini-series
with the Question in it. They've got a pretty nice
selection of back issues there too.<br><br>--Eric


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I know the shop you're talking about, I 've been
there a few times. I'm finally beginning to learn the
area. Chapel Hill is a cool college town, and I've
found a lot of nice stuff there. <br><br>Loston


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Fellow Charltonians-<br><br>Just want to take the
opportunity to state that this club is alive and well. The
coming artwork and the recent publications centering on
Charlton have generated lots of conversation. I would love
to see a broader spectrum of folks participate here.
We have a decently sized membership and I'm positive
that many of us have things to share about Charlton
and our experiences with the comics. I know a number
of people have not yet responded to the question
about First Charltons. What was your first experience
with the company. I would really like to hear. So
speak out. Let's hear from you. <br><br>Thanks to all
of you who are making this a place I feel the need
to check at least once a day. <br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hmm? First Charlton that would be hard to say.The
first ones that I can consiously remember would
probably be the Dan Garett Blue Beetle .Or maybe Capt.
Atom in the original( and best) gold and yellow
costume. As to Mercury Man,you really are dusting out the
cobwebs in my mind.My recollection of this character is
really really vague.I think he was an astronaut circa
the Mercury space program era that gained
superpowers.I'll eagerly awaiting more info on this character.I do
remember more vividly seeing this comic being sold
stripped of its cover( most likely illegally) and being
sold at the "notions" store across the street from
where I lived.Walter


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Dean,<br><br>What the first Charlton I ever saw
was is a difficult question to answer; it was most
likely either one of the western titles that Charlton
acquired from Magazine Enterprises, a horror comic, or a
war comic. Whatever it was, it certainly didn't stick
out in my memory; Charltons were more-or-less
ubiquitous when I was growing up and they were probably the
standard for being "just another comic book," since they
covered every genre they could and had few features to
distinguish themselves from the pack. <br><br>The first
Charlton character I can recall clearly is 'Mr. Muscles'
who was essentially god-awful, just bad enough to be
unforgetable. The first Charlton character I can remember
looking forward to was 'Gunmaster', who was mid-way
between being a western character and a masked mystery
man. That's probably not what you wanted to hear, but
it happens to be the truth.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...It's conceivable that some of th' Wildman-era
animated titles ( Flintstones/spin-offs , Underdog ,
etcetera . ) might've been mine , circa<br> '71 or so...I
first bought comics in '66 , but , I might've never
bought an Action-era title AT ALL !!!!! ( My cousins ,
funnily enuuff , had , among their EXTREMELY FEW comics
one of th' " Hot-Rod " ones...a splash page showed
Clint Curtis? , <br>and his buddy , staring at th'
giant face of the prominent local citizen , who was
denouncing ALL hot-rodders as reckless kids , saying " no ,
that's not true "...Symbolism , man !!!!! )<br>
Charltons were pretty well-distributed in upper Westchester
County , New York , then , as I recall<br>...By contrast
, Gold Keys weren't distributed<br>to newsstands
there ( this being the 70s ) AT ALL !!!!! I want to say
our proximity to Conneticut might've helped , but
perhaps that's <br>silly...But , perhaps not .


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...Guess the ? ( no<br> pun ) was SAW , I<br>guess . I meant " bought " .<br>Anal-retentive WLL , signing off !!!!!!!!!


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No, this is just the kind of thing that
interested me on this question. The beauty of the Charlton
line is the very thing you mention Jon, and that is
the broad variety of titles available from them. In
the 70's they filled niches which otherwise would
have gone empty such as Romance and War. Certainly no
one did westerns with such aplomb in those decades
that I can remember. <br><br>Gunmaster is a favorite
of mine too. I love the combination of masked man
and typical western action. The series (I have four
or five issues of the series and a few Six-Gun
Heroes too I think) was graced by some above average
artwork and the stories were typical but
interesting.<br><br>My favorite western star from Charlton was The Man
Called Loco. This brief series by PAM hit me at a
crucial early reading period and made a huge impression.
I still think the cover of that first issue of that
series in Texas Rangers was the best Charlton produced
(that I have seen). It is a wonderful and dramatic
extreme closeup of the hero's face. The PAM artwork
inside was typically fine and the character was nicely
melancholy.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Nice to see you back Waltsland. You are the guy
who probably knows this- What became of the great
Paul Fung? I think I have his name right. He was a
central artist for those 70's animation-inspired and
licensed productions by Charlton. I seem to remember the
name being closely linked to Hong Kong Phooey and a
few others. I was digging around in some of that a
few weeks ago and I chanced upon my old issues of
Scooby Doo and I must say the artwork in those was
really not all that good. I was surprised as I remember
it being much better. <br><br>On a side note I am
constantly tempted to add the ongoing DC series Scooby Doo
to my reading list just for the truly excellent
artwork by Joe Staton and Dave Hunt among others. I pick
up and scan each monthly issue but I can't make room
on my schedule for a new book right now. Anyone
getting it out there?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The Silver Age Collectors club has a new founder
and the move is on to get some new members and try
and bring a little interest and excitement to the
proceedings. This one has great potential and of course many
of us might have common interests there. Give it a
try
at:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/silveragecollectors target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/silveragecollectors</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I just won an Ebay auction for a copy of Haunted
from '71--IN far better condition than the one I
already have! I got it for $6.50, which was my max bid.
Who says you can't win 'em all?<br><br>Loston


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Congratulations Loston! It always such a thrill
when you finally get that comic you have been
searching for. A scary comic at that! <br><br>I remember
when I found a treasure once at some little convention
I let out an audible gasp, and I could hear the
vendor mentally raising the price even as I tried to
suck it back in. I was too late and I paid the price
(literally).<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I've done pretty well this year, Charlton wise
Dean--I've bought 3 original Capt Atoms from the 60's , Just
bought Blue Beetle #1 (ditko), found copies of E-man 1-4
in vf-nm condition, and completed my Don Newton
Phantom collection. And now a great quality copy of
Haunted #1! I'm doing ok!<br><br>Loston


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...'Fraid I don't , though I sorta 'member the
name...Was he prominently credited on H/B TV series ? I
would sort of assume that , if 'tis<br>H/B we're
talking about , that he might've seen himself as more an
H/B employee , than a Charlton-ite , jus' as C. Barks
saw himself as more of a Disney dude , than a
Western/Dell/Gold Key employee , I believe...The novelty ( to ol'
lil' East Coast me . ) of a name like " Fung "
might've stuck in my mind...Frankly , I sort of recall
those early-70s Wild/Char. animated titles as not being
all that impressive , w/ ( It seems that I recall . )
overly " loose " art , & overly brief/vingetteish
stories...Were H/B still w/Charlton by the time that a " H.K.P.
" woud've come out ?


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Walter-<br>I don't know the arrangements
Hanna-Barbara had with Charlton but they were sure producing a
lot of H-B material at the time. The Flinsones were a
veritable empire at the time and I'm guessing the thought
was that more was better. I tend to agree that some
of the stuff was not very good, and that is why the
Paul Fung material stands out in my memory. He could
well have been primarily an employee of H-B, but I
really know. Thanks for taking a shot at it.<br>Kjai
Dha!<br>Dean


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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 07:17:13 -0700
Subject: My Secret Life at Oddball!
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No! It is safe to read this message; you will
learn nothing which will make your young ears bleed.
<br><br>The "My Secret Life" referred to is the Charlton
comic and issue #1 has been recently featured at Scott
Shaw's very entertaining Oddball comics. This a great
example of Dick Giordano's early Charlton work. Check it
out, but bring your snorkel!<br><br>The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-05 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-05</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey Dean & the gang!<br><br>I'm considering a few
different possible layouts for the club picture--anyone
remember Ordway's JSA entree from "Who's Who"? I'm
considering a fanning layout like that! I think it would be
cool! What do you guys think?<br><br>Loston


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Mercury Man appered in Space Adventures #44 and
#45. He was an odd one. He was light blue in tone with
wings on his head (I guess if wings on your ankles can
make you fly then wings for ears can do the same
thing.) and he was apparently metallic thought he didn't
look it. There were some Stranger in a Strange Land
possiblities here but in the only issue I have little of
consequence is done with him. He is noteworthy only because
he appears roughly at the same time (era) as Captain
Atom but this character got no foothold at
all.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I know the image Loston and once more you have me salivating waiting for the finished drawing. Continued good luck with the project!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Out  Of This World Link!
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A great Steve Ditko cover for the comic "Out Of
This World" has recently been a feature of Oddball
Comics. It is perhaps not so flattering that so many of
the Charlton comics seem to find there way onto this
site. But it is a chance to see some great examples of
hard to find artwork.<br>The URL
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-10 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-10</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Mysterious Traveler/Thing Photo Album!
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I would like to point you to a new Photo Album
available to the membership. You will find some great Ditko
covers for "Tales of the Mysterious Traveler" and "The
Thing". The image gracing the club page is issue #14 of
"The Thing". <br><br>A little something for the
season.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Dr.Graves&Ghostlly Tales&Haunted Album!
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In honor of the season you will find another new
album featuring the premiere Charlton ghostbuster
Dr.Graves and a handful of great Ditko Charlton Ghostly
Tales covers. Also on hand is the premiere issues of
Haunted! (Boo!)<br><br>Kaji Dha! <br>Dean


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Thanks for the additions Dean--I appreciate it!  Man, I can't wait--I'm finally finished with the FASA stuff so now I can get some work done on that club picture!  horay!<br><br>Loston


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Subject: Charlton Ghost Comics Treasure Trove!
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I lucked out yesterday my fellow Charltonians. My
regular comics dealer bought a great collection a few
weeks ago and I am finding some real jewels in these
very affordable back issues. <br><br>Four issues of
"The Many Ghosts of Doctor Graves", six issues of
"Ghost Manor", six issues of "Ghostly Tales" , and one
issue each of "Ghostly Haunts" and "Haunted". With the
exception of one issue of which I already had a coverless
copy of the material is all early 70's and best of all
brand new to me. I paid a dollar a piece for each of
these gems. There are others costing a bit more waiting
and it is likely only a matter of time before I add a
few more great Charltons to my collection. Thanks for
listening!<br>I had to tell someone!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Great fortune, Dean!  Congrats!<br><br>Loston


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Hi guys, <br> With my work keeping me busy, I've
had scarce amount of time to dedicate to the club
picture, but when things slow down, it's my next priority.
Meanwhile, I will give you a few sneak peeks at some of the
stuff I've been doing lately. Just a few links to a few
'roughs'. This stuff isn't finished art, just
preliminaries. I know many of you aren't artists and therefore
you might enjoy seeing a few drawings in the early
stages of developement. This stuff was for Crucible, a
Dark Fantasy role-playing game being done by FASA. I
did 13 illustrations for that game, and here are but
3 of the roughs. I hope you
enjoy!<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/thanes1.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/thanes1.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/cruc.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/cruc.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/hagar.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/hagar.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Just took a gander at them Loston. Nice bunch of pictures. You had me going pretty good while the middle one loaded up. Nice chicky!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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&lt;&lt;Nice chicky!&gt;&gt;<br><br>And such a practical costume too! ;-)<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://www.startrektoptens.com target=new>http://www.startrektoptens.com</a>


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Here is a little teaser for the membership.
<br><br>What were the names of the original members of the
Fightin'5? (First names and nick-names will do just fine on
this one.)<br><br>Good Luck & Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Bruce,<br><br>The costume wasn't mine & believe it or not, I made it far MORE PRACTICAL than in the original reference!  Hard to believe, but it's true!<br><br>Thanks,<br>Loston


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Subject: Big Red C,The Bullseye or Other?
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A conversation at another club prompted me to ask
this question? <br><br>What is your favorite cover
design element on Charlton comics? <br><br>The Big Red
"C", the Charlton Bullseye, or perhaps the earlier box
with the diagonal white stripe. Or perhaps you prefer
an even earlier design.<br><br>My vote goes for The
Big Red "C"!<br><br>I found it distinctive and if
fairly pops out of the back issue bin as effectively as
it popped out at you on the old spinner racks. It is
elegant and simple and bright and effective.<br><br>So
what is your opinion?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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More art stuff I'm working on:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/Than72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/Than72.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Dean,<br><br>I'm not sure it is an actual
preference, but I associate the big, red "C" with Charlton.
If anyone were to say "Charlton" to me (which
doesn't happen much in "real" life), I would
automatically think, "Big, red C."<br><br>My two cents,<br>Jon


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I actually like the bullseye best. It's what I
knew first and to me, it's just more interesting
visually. I don't dislike the big "C" at all, that was also
quite cool. I have a number of Captain Atoms, Haunteds,
and a ton of others with that emblem embossing the
cover. The only negative thing I can say about the
bullseye is perhaps it was too similar to DC Comics'
emblem. I plan on sneaking both the bullseye and the big
"C" into the club picture. To me, they symbolize
Charlton Comics at it's best. <br> Speaking of club
picture, today I did a few sketches (in between inking
sessions of a current project). Most of these doodles was
of one particular character. Let's see if you guys
can guess who it is with this fairly easy
hint:<br><br>"Stop, before you enter this room, infidels.....lest you
soil this unbelievably beautiful oriental rug, the
creation or a Persian rugmaker in Tabriz whence came the
finest rugs ever made by man!"<br><br>Do you guys know
which character I've been drawing? Betcha Dean knows!
<br><br>Loston


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Charlton trivia:   Who is credited as being the letterer of Blue Beetle #1?   Do you know without looking?<br><br>Loston


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I'm going to guess the grossly underpaid "A.
Machine". Machine was one of Charlton's most reliable
craftsmen and he ate so little that they were able to break
even on the huge salary they paid him. I always
figured Machine was Joe Gill and that lettering was
something Joe did in all that leisure time he clearly had.
Lord knows the guy never worked that hard.<br><br>If
it's not "A.Machine" then I really have no
idea.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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"A. Machine" it is!  You're good at these things Dean!<br><br>Loston


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Any guesses on which character said:<br>"Stop,
before you enter this room, infidels.....lest you soil
this unbelievably beautiful oriental rug, the creation
or a Persian rugmaker in Tabriz whence came the
finest rugs ever made by man!" ?<br><br>Loston


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Unless it's Professor Coffin or possibly Arachne you have me on this one. And that is rather a random guess at that.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Actually that was Impy's first line of dialogue from Haunted #1!  <br><br>Loston


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Doh!!!! <br><br>I just was looking at that issue! What a goose I am!<br>Great question Loston; I should have nailed that!<br><br>Kaji Dha! <br>Dean


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Hey everyone---Anyone else here read the Charlton
horror-type books? If so, what would you say was the best
title? I personally enjoyed them all! Ghostly Haunts,
Haunted, Scary Tales, Ghostly Manor, Monster Hunters,
Ghostly Tales, Midnight Tales, & Haunted Library were a
constant source of enjoyment for me! I loved all the hosts
of each book (an element that helped give each title
it's own identity). All those cool Gil/Ditko
stories--etc., etc.. Got a fav? Why? Why not?<br><br>Loston


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Singin' my song there Loston. I do so love the
Charlton ghost books. I know all about those EC comics
from the 50's and I have read 'em all, but I do
believe that Charlton carved out a little bit perfection
back in the early 70's with their line of ghost books.
There is a sense of play in those books not readily
found in the more profound EC's. Add the fact that you
have talents like Ditko, Sutton, Staton, Boyette, PAM,
Howard, Zeck, Larson, and Newton cranking the stuff out
and it is easy to see why those books hold up so
well. The hosts are very individual and have a charm
all their own. I want to know more about each and
every one of them. Doc Graves got into the action once
in while, but the others rarely did. Of course Joe
Gill was the writer for about three-quarters of the
stuff and guys like Steve Skeates and Denny O'Neil
pitched in. Charlton dominated this side of the market
for a short time and they did it with they typical
short burst of quality and fun. <br><br>Kaji Dha and a
Half!<br>Dean


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No takers on this one so far. Let me trim the
question back a little. The members of the original
Fightin' 5 are Tom-Tom, Granite, Frenchy , Irv and Who?
<br><br>Who was the leader of this team of
warriors?<br><br>Good Luck and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I believe that's correct, Who was the leader of the Fighting 5, at least when he wasn't on first.<br><br>No idea actually,<br>Jon


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Abbooot!!!! <br><br>Well if "Who" was the leader
of the Fightin 5 then "What If" (an excellent comic)
is on second with "Whozit" (Dialing H) is on third.
"It" (the Living Colossus kind)will be coming to bat
with<br>"Him"(Beehive)on deck. "Her" (a paragon of virtue) is calling the
balls and strikes.<br><br>Kaji Dha!(My brain is
sore.)<br>Dean


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Subject: 2nd Charlton Issue from CBA!
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Comic Book Artist which did the wonderful
Charlton issue this summer is going to feature a second
issue this January on the company and it 70's surge. It
will feature the usual load of great interviews and
pictures. In addition it will have a new Joe Staton cover
and a NEW E-Man story. Yep you heard me right, a
complete new story.<br><br>Now Twomorrows the firm which
puts CBA out has been known to be late on delivery,
but they say the thing should be arriving soon after
the new year. The issue number will be
#12.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charlton makes yet another appearance at Scott
Shaw's Oddball Comics site. This time the featured comic
is "Out Of This World" Vol. 1 #1 from 1956. The
cover is a strange one and as usual Shaw supplies a
brief overview of the contents. Give it a peek. The
address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-25 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-25</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I was just at John Morrow's house yesterday
helping him stuff subscription envelopes for Alter Ego.
He mentioned that CBA would be doing a few more
Charlton issues --I see him again in 2 weeks, I'll ask
more about the summer issue then. Btw, the Jack Kirby
Collector will now be treasury size! This will enhance some
of the art throughout and hopefully will generate
some more sales.<br><br>Loston<br><br>Loston


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Thanks for the information Loston. You have made
my day by letting me know there will multiple
Charlton issues in my future. I look forward to
them.<br><br>I don't know about taking the Kirby Collector to
Treasury size though. I understand the reasoning, but I
don't know if that is a package I would want to fool
with. I wish them good luck. <br><br>If you would be so
kind as to pass along my thanks to them for the many,
many hours of reading pleasure they have given me over
the last few years. Nothing new on the stands has
thrilled me half as much as some of those jam-packed
issues of JKC and CBA and Alter-Ego.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Welcome Capitantricolor!
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It is a real pleasure to welcome a new member
here at the Bullseye. Things are pretty slow here most
of the time, but I and a few others try to keep at
least the glimmer of a conversation going. When things
erupt on the Charlton front more activity will develop.
Feel free to participate and let us know what Charlton
comics are your favorites. How did you find your way
here by the way?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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This is getting to be a habit. Another Charlton
comic has surfaced at the Oddball comics site. The
latest is "True Life Secrets" Vol.1 #23 from 1954. To
take a peek at this ancient Charlton offering go
to:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-27 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-10-27</a><br><br>Enjoy and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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By the way the answer is Hank Hennessy! Now that was a Fightin' 5. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Since the subject of Charlton's ghost comics come
up here with fair regularity, I'm going to post the
URL of an interesting new club, "No Superheroes
Allowed." While he does like super-heroes, the founder of
"No Heroes" is somewhat alarmed by the fact that
costumed characters dominate almost all yahoo comics
clubs; consequently he has started a venue for every
other genre: crime, horror, teen humor, western, funny
animal, true life, war, science-fiction, etc. If anyone
care to take a look go
to:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nosuperheroesallowed target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nosuperheroesallowed</a><br><br>While our "Action Heroes" are banned over there, much
Charlton material is open for discussion there and would
be a welcomed topic.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Let me add that this club (of which I am a proud
member) is also in the process of developing a great list
of interesting links thanks to Jon and the founder.
This is a good place to visit and take part in some
non-spandex inspired conversation. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Happy Halloween to all my fellow Charltonians!
Why don't we all celebrate the holiday by digging out
a copy of a Charlton scary comic and enjoying some
of that vintage Ditko or Boyette or Sutton or Staton
or Newton charm. Or you could take your favorite
horror host to luch. Some of them look like they could
use a meal. I have dibs on Winnie the Witch
though!<br><br>Enjoy the holiday!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dibs on Winnie--ya bastard!! hehe--Oh well, I
guess I'll just have to flip through copies of Haunted
with that little ghastly ghoul Impy sitting on my
shoulder. I've pulled out a 6 inch stack of Charlton horror
comics and I'm opening a can of Coca-cola--Here's to
Charlton, gone but never forgotten.<br><br>Loston


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Subject: Comic Book Ads !!!!!!!
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I've been meaning to do some yappin' on th'
subject of ADS in comic books , th' monnee-payers...and
this'll serve as my introduction !!!!!!! Anybody have any
comment , to start w/ , 'bout what kinda ads CHARLTON
tended towards ?


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I'll I got to say is this:<br><br>www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/sea.jpg<br><br>Loston


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correction!  sorrry!!!<br> <a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/sea.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/sea.jpg</a><br><br><br>Loston


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Love those Sea Monkeys! I always wanted some of
those smiling little creeps, and the beauty of
adulthood is it get to do what you couldn't folks into when
you were a kid. I bought them (for my daughters don't
you know) and I think they lasted a week. Actually
I'm not sure they were ever alive. Another of life's
mysteries solved.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I'll have to peek, but it seems to me that the
ads in Charlton comics always seemed to be aimed to a
slightly older crowd. I could easily misremember that. I
do know that there were plenty of get-rich-quick
schemes.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Seems to me Charlton adds had a good mix of stuff
for ALL ages actually. Sea Monkeys, Daisy Rifle adds,
Learn Kung Fu, Exploding fountain pens & X-rap specs,
The Magic Power of Witchcraft, Play Guitar,
Highschool Diploma and Ring, Sell Grit, Prizes or Cash, 100
piece toy soldiers, Ham radio adds, Keep on Truckin'
shirts, hair growth, Snap-tite models, and even Superman
coins made the cut for Charlton adds!! I'd say that
small assortment spanned a lot of different age groups!
Perhaps Charlton would run adds for anyone who'd pay to
put them in their books! I doubt Charlton would have
been as picky, maybe, because they weren't the comics
giant that Marvel or DC were. I can't for sure say--I
just know that the adds are a great deal of fun to see
nowadays! They really take me back to my youth! I almost
wish someone would collect all the comic book adds of
yesterday and publish them in a coffee table, jumbo book.
Think about it--It'd be a real kick seeing Casper save
the day with hostees fruit pies or see Mac
become'Hero of the Beach' again! The Nostalgia value alone
would get my buck! Seamonkeys on the
cover--definately.<br><br>Loston


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...I seem to have rriillyy started something -
big , to sorta quote th' late Steve Allen - here ! I
guess that we can stick discussion of <br>" vintage "
comick adds ( Say , during Charlton's active life ? )
here...Did Charlton's music-mag<br>holdings lead to a lot of
those , fairly rip-offy , " Set Your Lyrics To Music !/
Publishers Now In $100,000 Search For Song Lyrics ! " things
?..." Real " record ads were fairly rare in...uh , "
real " comic books...until recent years...I once HAD a
book ( TP/glorified comic book ) of vintage CB
ads...Say , even by th' ttiime I'wuzreadin'comickbuukks , (
1966 , remember ! ) I think ,
oneofth'bigsymbolicckkduddessassocciaatedwith <br>CB ads , Chaz Atlas , wasn't really in comic
books much no more , by then...He knew ,<br>by then ,
what hopeless<br>wimpz we all really iz...!.........


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Here's some links to some artwork I recently completed. Take a peek if you've the
time. Sorry, some of these files are sizeable--please be
patient.<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/thanes72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/thanes72.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/skeleton72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/skeleton72.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/warrior72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/warrior72.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/barbarian72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/barbarian72.jpg</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/hagar72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/hagar72.jpg</a><br><br>hope you enjoy!<br><br>Loston


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Dean,<br><br>I hate to say it but Charlton was a low rent outfit and they tended to run cheap ads and a lot of them.<br><br>You asked,<br>Jon


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Charlton wasn't "Low Rent", they were "NO Rent"!
I pulled out a couple of Charlton's and here is
what I found. In "Strange Suspense Stories" #9 (Sept.
1969) the inside front cover has a body-building ad,
later we find an ad for a weight-GAINING drink, a
half-page ad for "Grit" (I acually sold Grit for a short
time),a half-page on Lincoln-head penny collecting,an ad
for fake facial hair appliances, a full-page ad for
the "Nasa Space Pen" which would write for "100
years", and the inside front cover features fishing
tackle. There a host of smaller classified ads for things
like mini-bikes,poets-wanted,drafting kits, and
various schlocky gimmicks like X-Ray specs and magic
cards and whatnot. The audience would seem to be young
teen boys the predictable audience for such a
comic.<br><br>I then took out a comic from 1978, specifically
"The Many Ghosts of Dr.Graves" #65 and here is some of
what I found. Inside front cover has a more in your
face body-building ad,a full-page ad for "Precious
Pets Pendants",a very small-print full-page ad on "The
Magic Power of Witchcraft",a late version of the toy
soldier ads,a full-page on Elvis reel-to-reel home
movies,TV Star T-shirts,another toy-soldier ad,another
half-page "Grit" ad, and something about making cash
selling personalized metal social security plates (got
me?).There are still the novelty device ads in abundance and
finally on the back cover and Olympic Sales Club ad
selling you on the idea of selling products to others.
The audience for this one seems much the same though
some of ads seem to be well off target audience. Some
seem too old and some seem too young.<br><br>If we
assume these are representative then Charlton doesn't
seem to have run dramatically more ads than most other
publishers, but they might seem a little more for a targeted
audience and there is nothing specifically comics oriented
in any of the ads. This tells me they didn't
percieve themselves to be selling to comics "fans" but to
comics readers.<br><br>I found no Sea Monkeys alas, but
this is only the quickest of samples. I was frankly
surprised that so little changed in the course of a
decade.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey Dean, I sold Grit too!! I never actually knew
of another person who did--so I'm floored! <br> As
far as seamonkeys go, yep--Charlton had em. The very
Seamonkey add I posted was from the back of Scary Tales
#12! I don't really see as a case can be made that
Charlton targeted any particular audience--they just ran a
lot of diverse ads. You are right about them not
changing their add formats often as well. They always ran
gimmick gum ads, bodybuilding programs, secret ninja
techniques, toy soldiers, etc.. I think all that added to
Charlton's unique nostalgia value. They were a different
company from the 'big two'--in almost every facet. It
appears this was also the case with their advertising.
Don't get me wrong--similar ads appeared in the pages
of other publishers, but as the times changed, those
companies changed out their advertising. Charlton seemed
reluctant to do so--as if stuck in a time warp. In my mind,
that made them all the more classic.<br><br>Loston


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What happened to Don Perlin? What was his fate? I
remeber him doing a lot of Charlton work (much of it
fairly high quality), but i can't remember seeing much
of his stuff elsewhere. Is he still
around?<br><br>Loston


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I'm not sure where Perlin is these days, but back
in the early and mid-90's he was a major cog in the
Valiant comics machine. He drew dozens of their books,
but more importantly he was responsible for training
the new guys (the "knobs") and instilling the house
look into them. He was brought in by Shooter and
stayed on after Shooter left the company (or was forced
out depending on the story). I think he is one of the
few guys who stayed behind Shooter doesn't really
hold a grudge against, but I could have that one wrong
too. He had a substantial run on "Solar" and was the
very important in maintaining the continuity of the
"Unity" crossover.<br><br>He was one of those guys who
told a good clean if not overly exciting story. I
always liked the neat, more realistic proportions he
gave to his characters. I remember his great run on
"Werewolf by Night" and I think he is the guy who
originally designed the Moon Knight. Perlin's style was
perfect for those little ghost stories and
such.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The image gracing the club page right now is a
wonderful Jim Aparo drawing of "Wander". The question
is:<br><br>What comic featured the adventures of "Wander, the Man
from Sirius 5"?<br><br>Good Luck and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...From a business standpoint...perhaps that was
the problem !!!!!!!!! Wasn't C. outta new productions
by late-'78 ? <br> Today , most DC/Marvel ads are
WAY " upscale " , if you can consider salt/sugar crap
and video game ads that - both in PRESENTATION ( no
lil' box ads now , bleed printing , etc. ) , and in th
TYPE'A companies represented - though th' DEFINITION of
" blue-chip " may have changed a trice in 20-30-40
years !!!!!!!!!<br> " Back in thh' daaaaaaaaaaay " , DC
( it seems ) , especially , got soemma thatt ,
Marvel , too ( Um , toy-candy companies/TV networks , is
what I mean by " blue-chip " , say . ) , but , NOT C.
!!!!!!!!! - I'll go into ( at least one ) theory , as to
<br>WHY , later ! Later !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Wasn't aware of Don's Valient stuff. To be
honest, I wasn't buying Valient. I was attending the
Kubert School, and was watching my money. (Art equipment
is expensive!) One of my favorite Charlton comics is
Ghostly Haunts #58. On the cover, we see a man blasting a
muck monster with a shotgun. The monster isn't
impressed! Don did the cover and the lead story featuring
that beasty, called "The Fugitive". His art in that is
very Wrightson-like--quite good! He also drew a sexy
looking Winnie too! I hope to see some future Perlin
stuff. If anyone hears news about Don, please share with
me!<br><br>Loston


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Cheyenne Kid.<br><br>--Eric


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Waltsland,<br><br>Definately Charlton was lacking
in sales and financial backing in the way Marvel and
DC was. Charlton was a smaller
operation--period--and in every way. Distribution to print quality,
Charlton definately was in the back seat. Still, despite
all of that, they still managed a lot of good comics.
I wouldn't trade my Charlton comics for anything!
Even the cheap-ass, low grade stuff! If nothing else,
Charlton was UNIQUE. It's own voice in the industry. I
remember the company fondly and I still enjoy reading
those same books I read as a kid. Charlton was what
comics should be about--fun!<br><br>Loston


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Bingo! Thanks for playing Eric! The strip began
as a surprise in the back of this western of all
places and is one of Charlton's little hidden gems. It
features some fine Aparo artwork and later some of Fred
Himes' best work. I do believe Denny O'Neil was the
scripter for much of the run.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Oh , I'd agree...After all , I'm here , ain't
I ?...BUT , I WILL continue to examine things
pertaining to C.'s " position on the food chain "...If
you're 30 , were you buying comics in 1976 ? '75 ?...


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Yes--with my allowance. My father also bought
comics for me. I am familiar with many comics from an
earlier age as well, as my Uncle (nearly 17 years my
better) gave me his entire comic collection. This
included many 60's books. Neal Adam's Batman & Wrightson's
Swampthing among them. There were also many Charlton Comics.
Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, etc.. I also have made many
efforts to collect stuff from earlier periods. I'm quite
proud of my Fantastic Four from the 60's which is still
not complete. To answer your question. Yes--I was
buying comics in '75. I was the 'comic book kid' to my
buddies. Comics were not discouraged, though my mother did
seem to hope I'd grow out of it. I remember her
tossing a few away in the trash a few times, but she was
the one who changed her mind about comics--not me. I
have no idea about you Waltsland--how old are you? Did
you buy Charlton back then? I read my first comic (a
Batman, which I still have) at age 4 or 5. I was just
learning to read, and I remember my parents guiding me
through it. I would read them panels and need help with
the words. I was afraid of going to school, which was
approaching, and I think my mom and dad considered comic to be
"funny books". Since I liked the pictures, it must have
seemed a good way to help me learn to read. I also
started drawing from owning that book. I would trace the
images of Bats by placing a sheet of paper over the
page, and holding it up to a window. The sunlight
served as a crude lightbox. Now, I draw for a living!
Comics have always been a part of my life, it
seems.<br><br>Loston


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In the most recent column by Tony Isabella there
is a brief item called "The Secret Origin of Image
Comics". The gist of the item is that the old Nightshade
villian The Image sports a symbol on his chest very
similar to the Image Comics corner box symbol. There is a
reproduction of a page of great Jim Aparo artwork. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.wfcomics.com/tony/journal/j110300.vs target=new>http://www.wfcomics.com/tony/journal/j110300.vs</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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In the on-sale-now comic "World's Funniest" there
are lots of DC universes on display for fun and
sport. In all that activity there is a single panel
featuring our beloved Action heroes in combat. The comic is
expensive but it features loads of fine art and more than
one good laugh. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome to the Bullseye Jdstutts! How did you
find our little internet campfire? What kind of
Charlton comic is your favorite? Feel free to post and let
us know what you think.<br><br>Welcome
Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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John Trumbull, a good friend of mine, (as you know already) and I were just talking about this very article a few nights ago!  Gives new meaning to "Homage" studios, eh?<br><br>Loston


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...I'm 40 ....I mentioned that B4 , but , yuppppp , I don' have a profile , so...


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40, eh?  Bet we've read tons of the same books, no doubt.<br><br>Loston


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...Indeedly-doodlyyy !!!!!!!!!


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I think while we're on this subject it would be a
good time to bring up the fact that Charlton had some
of the best house ads in all of comics. The
full-page adds with the logos and a few selected characters
(often in intriguing action poses) was very seductive.
They did a good job of cross-promoting the comics.(
Something I think comics should do a lot more of these
days. I am beginning to see a little bit of it at
Marvel, but not really enough. )The ads in the Charlton
comics were like little posters and I have more than one
back issue in my collection where the ad has
apparently been treated just like a poster.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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...Hey , since I can
repeat/be<br>repetitive/re-run...I don' 'member having any trouble finding
Charlton<br>, in my upperish side of Westchester County ,
New<br>York , ( What relatively little I bought...) as a
70s<br>" fan "...Perhaps our relative proximity
to<br>Conetticut?(sic) Now , Gold Key was NOT SOLD ON THE
NEWSSTANDS<br>THERE &lt;br&gt;AT ALL !!!!!!!


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Charlton sold it's book wares in 'pockets'--in
selected areas. I was able to find them in Clintwood,
Va--a coal mining town with under 2000 people! Usually,
I got them in illegal packs of three. When store
owners didn't sale them individually, they'd bind 3
books together and put them out on a shelf to resell at
a new price. Sometimes, I'd buy them and they'd be
missing the front covers (comics aren't supposed to be
resold missing any parts. In those days --maybe still--a
store was suppose to cut off and return the front cover
of a book they couldn't sell. Then, they were
supposed to burn the remainder of the magazine.). At other
times, I bought 3 packs of books with the covers still
on them. Either way, a 3 pack cost about 35¢! I
discovered the joys of Charlton from these 3 packs moreso
than the books I inherited by my uncle. I couldn't
tell you how many Charlton Ghost Manors, Haunted,
Monster Hunter, etc. I bought in this fashion. Some with
and without front covers. Come to think of it,
Sometimes the middle book still had a cover on it, and
often a Gold Key, DC, or Marvel book would be inside
those plastic wrapped grabbags! <br><br>Loston


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Great story. I love finding out the various ways
people discovered their comics. It seems that the very
best stories seem to always be connected to Charlton
comics. Their odd and sometimes quaint distribution makes
for some unusual encounters. Thanks for sharing with
us Loston.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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You're welcome.<br><br>Lost one


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...Nothing like that ever happened re:
pre-baggedes in my market - However , Gold Keys were sold ,
EXCLUSIVELY , in 3-title pers ( costing , say , 73c during
th' 25c era ? Essentially full retail , in other
words . ) , with the Whitman logo , not GK - only of
humor titles , no Magnus , etc. - you'd have to get
some thumb + index action going to get any hint of
what the middle-er was - <br>no hint outside , no
pattern otherwise - I was looking for Barks ducks , plus
Little Lulu , uv cawsss , like a good lil' " comics fan
"...( = O . G. Whiz ? )...ONLY ! sold in ( generally )
rather dumpy/downbeat stores' , that didn't otherwise
carry comicks , kiddie/coloring books
departments...how's that ?


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I didn't see any re-bags or other questionable
practices until I moved to Denver in early 1967, and they
were still rare. I can remember one used bookstore
that did sell coverless comics at a nickle apiece or
two for five cents (I forget which), and another
store that sold bags of five or six comics that were
three or four months old for a quarter. It seems like
the grabbags usually contained more Archies and DCs
than Charltons. In the late 70s I did see a few bags
of reprinted comics in unlikely places like Wyoming
Safeways and K-Marts; they contained three books and
Charltons made up a high percentage of the books. I forget
who the distributor was but they different
publishers' logos that the originals. I seldom bought the
re-bags because they were usually different combinations
of about a dozen different issues, and usually ones
I didn't want anyway.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Dean usually greets new members, but the way
yahoo has been acting lately this may be the first time
your name has been shown. Anyway, welcome to the club.
Check out the links and the art gallery and post a
message if you feel the urge. How did you find your way
over here?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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When I bought the 3 packs of coverless comics
(for a 25-35¢), I hadn't a clue that it was an illegal
thing in anyway--indeed, I thought it was an ingenius
thing to sell comics 3 in a pack! The front covers
missing didn't really bother me so much either
(collecting comics meant that you liked and kept
comics--condition and money value was unknown to me completely!)
Illegal as it was, I'm glad that I was able to acquire a
number of Charlton books in this manner. It was an
important part of my childhood, these books. I'm sure
buying this way did little to help a struggling Charlton
though. Who knew these things?! I was 7 years old or
something like that! Even after I read the small type that
stated that the books couldn't be sold in any mutilated
form, I still didn't think any laws had been
broken--after all a grocery store couldn't be a law breaker?!
These people sold coca-cola, captain crunch and
Pop-rocks for god's sake! At any rate, I repaid for all
those illegal issues in my own way a few years later,
scooping up individual 35¢ issues at an alarming rate!
Into my teens, I consumed enough Charlton Comics to
warrent a mental analysis-- <br> You never see such
things as those illegal 3 packs nowadays. Mostly because
comic shops are the order of the day to find your
'funnies'. Also, because companies like Marvel Comics would
jump on any such outlet that attempted such a feat
like a pack of rabid dogs! Such things are pursued
more frequently in modern times. <br> I still have one
unopend 3 pack ('3 pak', it says--'Still only 35¢!' in an
obvious swipe of the old Marvel price-burst effect.) On
one side, we have Ghost Manor #16 (front cover has
been chopped; The other side: Beyond the Grave-- with
a front cover! Depicting the corpse of a soldier
pushing open a coffin lid while a ghost with a shovel
stands over the freshly dug grave! In the middle is a
Mickey Mouse comic--still with covers intact. I've never
opened it. It's a time capsule I will forever
keep.<br><br>Loston


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Subject: Caroline Kennedy At Oddball!
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Well it has happened yet again. In this week on
intense political activity Oddball comics has recognized
yet another comic from the Derby Connecticut
publisher we all love. <br><br>"Caroline Kennedy" is a 1961
comic drawn by the talented future editor of the
Charlton line, Dick Giordano. It features the daughter of
the then newly elected president and at this point
lone surviving member of the nuclear presidential
family. <br><br>The address
is:<br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-09 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-09</a><br><br>And don't forget to look for "Zsa-Zsa The
Rabbit".<br>Don't Ask!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:10:59 -0800
Subject: Re: Re-bags full
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You have much more restraint than I would have
Loston. I don't know if I could bear not opening such a
treasure. A few years ago when it seemed every other comic
was sold while in a plastic bag I heard of folks who
bought them and simply tucked them away for investment
purposes. I couldn't understand that at all. I know you are
retaining yours for purer reasons of nostalgia which I can
not only identify with but respect. I have fragments
of original comics I have bought over the years. I
have upgraded, but there is something oddly potent
about the orignal copies and the pedigree I can attach
to them. They are touchstones to other times when
things were simpler or at least seemed so. When the
Spring was springier and the cars ran faster and
presidential elections were over in one day. Alas for the
misty past.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:36:32 -0800
Subject: New Charltonian!
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Welcome Illoral to the Charlton Bullseye. It is
nice to see a new name on the roster. Feel free to
post messages and don't hesitate to take part in the
conversations. What is your favorite Charlton comic?
<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 03:33:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Re-bags full
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If I ever have a child of my own, perhaps I'll
let him/her open that 3-pak--Or maybe I'll someday
open it as a special treat on a special occasion. Or,
I might break it open on a particularly bad day in
an effort to lift my spirits--who knows?<br> I
otherwise open all my books and mags discarding all the
wraps they might have. Especially any new toys! I rip
the box to shreds and pull that sucker out without
hesitation! I collect toys, but not for money value. I don't
collect anything for money value. I do try to get the
best copies of comic books I can, but that's so it'll
last longer! <br> I have collected for swapping value
before. I bought all the first Image books (Spawn,
Wildcats, Cyberforce, Pitt, etc), only to trade all of them
in for back issues of comics I really wanted!<br>
Comics are my life--(I'm pencilling one now!) but they
are just paper. I recently gave John Trumbull my only
copy of X-men #137 (death of Phoenix) for helping me
move. It was also a goodbye gift. He's one of the best
friends I ever made, sharing 6 years of the 'Kubert
experience'. That book meant a lot to me, because the story
meant so much to me. The very memory of how I got that
book had meaning, as I got it from my first girlfriend
as a birthday gift. It's true value is the joy I
received from it. I passed that info on to John when I
gave it too him. He had never owned, but had always
wanted to own, that issue. But by relating it's
importance to me, I made it clear to him how much I missed
having him around. He is a true friend (not many of
those in a lifetime!), and I wanted him to know that he
was.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:26:55 -0800
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:26:55 -0800
Subject: Comic Book artist
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Comic Book Artist #12 will be featuring Charlton
Comics again, and will have a Don Newton tribute! Don
was my personal favorite Phantom & Batman artist, so
I'm jazzed! It also features NEW cover art from Joe
Staton Featuring E-man & Nova! John Byrne, Mike Zeck,
Joe Staton, Tomm Sutton, Nic Cuti George Wildman, &
Warren Sattler are interviewed, and features an
exclusive new E-man strip by Cuti & Staton!! Man, I can't
wait!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:36:30 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:36:30 -0800
Subject: CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT(Fanzine)!
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I recently became aware of a new fanzine (on
paper and everything) dedicated to Charlton Comics. It
is titled "Charlton Spotlight" and it is produced by
Michael Ambrose. The first issue is due out soon and goes
for $6.95 (tax and shipping included I believe). For
your money you will get a complete Charlton Comics
checklist, a new Tom Sutton cover, and 52 pages of material
in an issue dedicated and in the memory of Pat
Boyette. Apparently lots of covers and spot art will be in
the package as well as articles.<br><br>The address
is:<br><br>CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT<br>Argo Press<br>PO Box 4201<br>Austin
TX<br>78765-4201<br>USA<br><br>Sounds like a winner to me and I plan to order mine
posthaste. If I learn more I'll be sure to let the
membership know.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:40:36 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:40:36 -0800
Subject: Charlton Renaissance!
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With all the attention Charlton is getting lately
we may be in the midst of a Charlton
renaissance.<br>Two fanzines giving the company attention is almost
more than I can stand. Living in the desert for so
long makes the advent of plenty more than my system
can stand. I'll live though. There hasn't been this
much material about the company available since long
before the Derby plant closed. Good Times!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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There's definately a Charlton Revival going on Dean--yahooo!!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:56:32 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:56:32 -0800
Subject: FANTASTIC GIANTS  At Oddball!
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It is becoming a weekly thing! Charlton must have
put out some strange comics because they seem to get
represented each week at Oddball Comics over at CBR. This
week is a classic 25 center from Steve Ditko, the 1966
reprint magazine "Fantastic Giants". This opus reprints
the first issue of "Konga" and "Gorgo". The reason it
is included in this week's set of comics though is
that Ditko has a self-portrait on the cover. Suffice
it to say it is not a standard image.<br><br>The
address
is:<br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-15 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-15</a><br><br>Enjoy and Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:50:16 -0800
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From: waltsland_1999
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:50:16 -0800
Subject: My Stuff Arriving , Charlton-Style !!!!!
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I , at least , have this Giordano-drawn " Modesty
Blaise : GN that DC put out a few years back...Anybody
else had it ?<br> 'Twas announced as a mini , then ,
went " direct to GN "...presoomably , DC thought
'twould be of limited " general " comic-shop punter
appeal ( A suitably Brit.-esque metaphor ! )Was Modesty
Blaise supposed to be a virgin ? One of her PB novels
was called <br> The Unlikely Virgin " , or similar .
Nevwr read !


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:43:37 -0800
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:43:37 -0800
Subject: So what happened to the Club picture?
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The club picture has taken a back burner for now,
but rest assured, I can't wait to do it, and you'll
see it here at some point. A promise is a
promise--I'll deliver. <br> So why isn't it done yet? Because,
my fellow champions of Charlton, I'm currently
working hard on a CAVEWOMAN one-shot, called "Klyde &
Meriem". This will be my first official comic debut as a
penciler, and the project is due out around April. Bob
Smith (Weird Tales, Hellraiser) provides the story, and
Kim (Swamp Thing, She Hulk) DeMulder will supply the
inking chores. I'm drawing 2 covers, all of the interior
pencils, and designing the logos and ad layouts, so I'm
pretty much swamped at the moment. When I'm done with
the project, I will produce the club picture. If
everything goes as planned, it should really turn out
nicely. <br> Hey folks, can I count on you guys to pick
up a few copies of the Klyde & Meriem one-shot?
We're an independent book, and the only money we see
will be from sales results over 9000 copies. So tell
your friends about the book and pick up an issue if
you can afford it. We'll appreciate it
greatly!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:22:22 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:22:22 -0800
Subject: Space Adventures #40!
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I thought I had them all. But then I stumble
across this image and I realize my Captain Atom
collection is not complete. Now my life has purpose and
meaning again. I will find ye', ye' mangy comic! If I
have to cross the seven seas and hell's maelstrom to
do't! (No I'm not obsessed. Why do you say
that?)<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. I love the ads Charlton
stuck on the bottoms and sides of the 50's efforts.
Sure they would have sucked at the time, but they have
a neat nostalgia to them now.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:45:56 -0800
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Love that cover!  Of the superheroes, Captain Atom was definately my favorite--and I don't have Space Adventures # 40, so this is the first time I've seen the cover--wow!  Thanks Dean!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:25:34 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:25:34 -0800
Subject: UNUSUAL TALES at Oddball!
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Twice in a week! That may be a record for Oddball
comics (even Scott Shaw himself commented on
it)!<br><br>This time the Charlton comic in question is a 1958
effort called "Unusual Tales" and ironically the issue
number is 13. Just take a look. I can't describe this
one accurately.<br><br>The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-16 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2000-11-16</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:59:20 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:59:20 -0800
Subject: Welcome Wlllljoyyyy!
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That's a fun one to type. Welcome to the Charlton
Bullseye. Things stay pretty quiet here, but we are always
on the lookout for Charlton sightings. Feel free to
post and don't hesitate to share your thoughts on
Charlton.<br><br>Welcome Again!<br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:03:56 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:03:56 -0800
Subject: HUNK at Oddball! (Sheesh!)
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I'm really starting to get upset. I don't know if
we should be flattered or not that so many Charlton
Comics are making it to Scott Shaw's great site Oddball
Comics, but here is the latest installment.<br><br>The
comic is from 1961 and it is a children's work called
"Hunk". It is about a caveboy and his very colorful
dinosaur companion. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?=2000-11-22 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?=2000-11-22</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:01 -0800
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From: E2JORL
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:01 -0800
Subject: Blue Beetle sighting!
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If you like to keep up with the modern
appearances of our favorites Charlton action heroes, there is
a wonderful examination of Ted Kord in the current
"Bird of Prey", # 25.<br><br>There's also an absolutely
gorgeous full page splash of the Beetle in
action!<br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://www.startrektoptens.com target=new>http://www.startrektoptens.com</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:30:53 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:30:53 -0800
Subject: Welcome IndustrialStudios!
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Welcome to the Charlton Bullseye,
IndustrialStudios! Always glad to welcome another fan of that little
Derby, Conn. publisher. Feel free to leave a message and
don't hesitate to let us know what you
think.<br><br>Welcome Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:32:43 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:32:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Blue Beetle sighting!
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Thanks for the tip Bruce. I wouldn't have had a
clue about this as "Birds of Prey" is not on my usual
list. Is the presentation largely positive, or is poor
Ted taking it on the chin?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:56:25 -0800
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:56:25 -0800
Subject: Current work--
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Hey gang,<br>Here's my pencil's for one of the
covers of the Cavewoman one-shot I've been working on.
It is called "Klyde & Meriem". This is a fairly
sizeable file so be patient. Hope you enjoy, & Happy
Thanksgiving
all!<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/Klydepencil.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/Klydepencil.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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From: sfawcus
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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:36:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Current work--
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Very nice, Loston. I've only ever seen Cavewoman in the Previews catalog but I think I'll have a look at this. When is it due out?<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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Subject: Jack Kirby Collector! (Huh?)
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Now you may wonder why I would mention The Jack
Kirby Collector here at the Charlton Bullseye as
Charlton may have been the one comic company Jack never
worked for. But in the latest issue there is a Kirby
recreation of the classic Amazing Fantasy #15 pose of the
debuting Spider-Man with criminal in tow. But in this
recreation the criminal has been transformed into Steve
Ditko and it is a very entertaining drawing
indeed.<br><br>Additionally there is an interview with Alan Moore in which he
discusses the effect of Kirby on his work. There is little
here not in the Comic Book Artist Charlton issue for
the fans here, but it is another chance to see the
Watchmen and hear from one of thier creators.<br><br>Just
so you know!<br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Just wanted to remind everyone about this latest
publication featuring the Charlton characters and creators.
The details are in the original post #597. Don't let
this one pass you by. It sounds good.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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...I think I pointed out before , actually , that
a cover repro of Win-A-Prize Comics that's ( Still
? ) in the Albums is clearly by the S&K " studio "
, anyway , besides the fact that I've rad that it
was a ( S&K's short-lived 1950's company . ) tile ,
originally...Plus , others ?<br> Granted , one COULD argue that , "
material originally prepared for , but not published by ,
Company #1 , then published , after being legally
acquired by Company #2 , wasn't , thus , truly ' done for
' #2 , " , but...


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...& it's still there , and it still is...especially th' shield-offering pirate's face...by S & K , Inc . 'Yow .


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Steve,<br> It's due out in April, and Previews
should run our full page ad in the January edition I
believe.<br><br>I could use all the support I can get as the only
money I stand to make is from sales, which usually is
meager with independent comics. Tell a friend! Tell 3
friends! We need your support!<br><br>Loston


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--Not to mention there's a Kirby version of the Phantom inside!  Plus some nifty Thundarr drawings and of course---Mr. T drawn by Jack!!<br><br>Loston


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Thanks for the correction Walter. It is fun to
think what if Charlton had landed the King when he
became disenchanted with Marvel. Can you see the Kirby
touch on heroes such as Peacmaker and Thunderbolt.
Imagine the whole Fourth World saga not as part of the DC
universe, but as part of Earth-4's timeline. Intriguing
notion. At least Charlton would have let him finish the
darn thing.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Steve Ditko's Charlton work will be featured in the Comic Book Marketplace magazine hitting the stands in December or January. More info as I find out about it.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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As I've briefly-ed , I got my East Coast Stuff (
hereafte abbreviated as ECS , ) and DID find a comic that
I've briefly mentioned...A 90s A-Pus? comic , printing
the material from a planned-but-never-published C.
HAGAR THE HORRIBLE comic ! Details later .


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Hey dudes and dudettes,<br>I've uploaded a
reference-photocopied, sheet handed out at the Joe Kubert School to aid
artists & writers with panel layout. It is a sheet called
"22 Panels That Always Work". It was something Wally
Wood put together for himself and used to have taped
to his desk. I hope that it will benefit someone
here who might be an aspiring artist or writer for
comics. Here's the link, which will only be available for
a week or so, so take advantage now! File size is
large to ensure a decent print
copy.<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/wally.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/wally.jpg</a><br><br>I hope this helps<br>Loston


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Hey folks,<br>Here's a link the Cavewoman cover I
penciled, and Kim DeMulder
inked:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/cover72.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/cover72.jpg</a><br>As soon as fellow clubber John Trumbull finishes the
colored version, I will once again try to post a link for
that.<br>I hope everyone enjoys the image, and will support
us by ordering a copy of the "Klyde & Meriem" a
Cavewoman oneshot from your local comic shop. Tell a
friend--tell 3 friends! We need your support!<br><br>Loston


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Nice work. This picture has me looking forward to the finished comic. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Which Charlton character not a member of the
Action Hero line which was scooped up by DC would be the
most successful in a revival in today's market?
(Assuming any character could be successful in such a
market.)<br><br>Now that only rules out Sarge Steel, Blue Beetle,
Captain Atom, Peacemaker, Nightshade, Judomaster, and Son
of Vulcan (I think).<br><br>That leaves a lot of
great Charlton stars out there for potential
revivification. Which might work in the current comics
environment?<br><br>My vote goes to two that I can think of immediately:
Dr.M.T.Graves and The Cheyenne Kid.<br><br>I think Dr.Graves
could do well with a little of that Vertigo treatment.
His rationality and cool demeanor would be a nice
variation on the X-Files approach to horror and the
bizarre.<br><br>The Cheyenne Kid always had a rather modernistic edge
to his adventures. Perhaps that was a consequence of
Sanho Kim. But of all the Western stars of the 60's and
beyond I think the Kid has the most chance of striking a
cord with a harder-edged modern audience. What was
done to Rawhide and Two-Gun over at Marvel in "Blaze
of Glory" would be only a gloss on the Kid.
<br><br>What do you all think? Who would work?<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Anyone else remember this little sci-fi series
from the same folks who gave us "UFO" and "Captain
Scarlet"? <br><br>Back in the days when science fiction was
rare in the popular media it was a real treat to get
anything and in that context "Space 1999" (one year out of
date now it seems) was a biggie for me. Martin Landau
was an actor of some gravity and he gave this British
series a bit of legitimacy. The adventures were pretty
mundane by modern standards and the effects were good for
the time but look rather odd today. <br><br>But this
series by Charlton both in B&W and the color comic
versions was rather excellent stuff. Joe Staton and John
Byrne did work for the color comic while Gray Morrow
helmed the B&W artistry.<br><br>What do you all
think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean, I have very fond memories of the tv series
of Space 1999. Here in the U.K. it's occasionally
shown on Saturday afternoons on the BBC and still
entertains.I never saw the comics, but then I was never very
interested in tv tie-ins. I might look for the books if
Morrow, Byrne and Staton were involved though! Are
Charlton's Six Million Dollar Man comics any good? I have
fond memories of that show.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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If you want a closer look at some of the covers (at least) of the Charlton "Space:1999" tie-ins the site to go to is:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3399/charlton.htm target=new>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3399/charlton.htm</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The Charlton effort on the "Six-Million Dollar
Man" is a lot more uneven than on "Space:1999". The
color series was begun with Joe Staton on the artwork
but shifted to Jack Sparling and others. I know
Sparling did all of "The Bionic Woman" issues. <br><br>The
B&W magazines were done by Continuity Associates
which meant that Neal Adams often did the covers and
his henchmen (among whom were Dick Giordano) did much
of the rest of the work. They are reasonably well
drawn but the stories aren't all that great.
<br><br>Generally they are handsome books, but not overy exciting
ones.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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....Conspiracy stopped me from posting MY #1 Choice ! ( for revival . Guess Who . )If Jon Lah ( or even Jack Ruder , hey , ) were here...


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...( Dr. Graves being spoken for awreddy , ) I
did suggest a Michael Mauser/Byrne's robot pairing (
I always tended to confuse them...) , + mebbe a "
Punisheresque " updated Vengance Squad , w/tie-ins/connections
to th' Seventees ( This 1970s cop movie , " The
Seven-Ups " , is on AMC today , but , I guess I've missed
it ) Vennggies ? Hey , I believe Charl. had several
, Bluto/Brutus-like , slightly different
variationns onn Atomic Mouse ? Mebbe a continuity-explaining
stooree ?


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...Killjoy ! ( Wotta Killjoy ! )


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.....Did e'one see my re-posting - which din' stick , I guess - of that " unathorized C. re-prints plus more besides " " SP2. " site , in response to AC , over at NSA ?


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Never read the comic version, but remember the
ads for Space 1999. I watched the show, and was
disappointed that Sci-Fi Channel didn't have a Space 1999
millenium marathon. <br><br>Loston<br>PS: Captain Scarlet
was my favorite supermarionette show. SIG.


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We are still looking for those Charlton
characters which might prosper in the modern market. See
post #625 for the details, but essentially all the
characters are eligible except the Action Heroes taken by
DC.<br><br>We have three names so
far:<br><br>Dr.Graves<br>Cheyenne Kid<br>Killjoy<br><br>Who do you think could be
successful today?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Well, I suggest that DC has done zip to promote
the Charlton comic characters they already have, so I
submit that they are all prime for a revival! <br>But to
comform with your request, I'd say that Doomsday+1 is the
comic that would be the most fun to see return. Imagine
Kurt Busiek writing something like that, with an
artist of equal talent. Hell, I'd even deal with seeing
Byrne revisit the title if he had a decent
inker--<br><br>Loston


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I had a look at an online comics retailer site to
have a look at the above mentioned titles. I couldn't
believe how highly they were priced! The first issues of
the comics of both titles were about 8 or 9 pounds
(about 6-7 dollars US I think). At the same site Ditko
issues of Space Adventure from 1967 or so were about
half the price! do these titles follow a similar
pattern in the US? I know both shows have quite an
enthusiastic cult following but I was genuinely surprised at
these prices.<br>Regards,<br>Steve.(who was really
looking for Planet of the Apes comics anyway :))


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I would have to say that the pricing is pretty
comparable over here Steve. I am lucky that I have all the
"Space: 1999" material, but I have recently tried to get
a few "Six-Million Dollar Man" magazines and they
are pretty expensive. <br><br>What I want to know is
how the Ditko material is going so cheaply.
Yum!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...I DID suggest Mauser/Rog ( as a team ? ) (
POSSIBLY? most sucessful today ? ) , Vengies ( Most
suck-sessful in 1993 ? ) , + E=MC22 Rodent , ack-shu-a-lee . A
copy of " Doomsday " #1 is among my ECS !!!!!


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Thanks for the reminder Walter. So far we have
the following list:<br><br>Dr.Graves<br>Cheyenne
Kid<br>Killjoy <br>Michael Mauser & Rog<br>Vengeance
Squad<br>Doomsday +1<br>& Atomic Mouse <br><br>All of these see
like they might be viable to me. The Mauser and Rog
team would be a little quirky, but it could be real
fun.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Wander, the offbeat western space opera created
by Denny O'Neil and Jim Aparo gets some special
attention in the latest issue of Comic Book Marketplace
(the one with Magnus Robot Hunter on the cover). The
article outlines the full run of the series and details
the writers and artists who had a hand in the
adventures of perhaps the oddest western star in the history
of the medium.<br>How else would you categorize a
extraterrestial, Shakepeare-spouting, cowpoke. You have got to
admit it bends the rules of the usual gameplan for
these prairie adventures. There is a little artwork
with the article, but nothing overwhelming
unfortunately.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Does anyone have any information on Jack
Sparling? He was not one of my favorite artists but he was
one of those guys who was everywhere. He quietly drew
hundreds of comics for several publishers over the years.
I know he did "Bomba", "The Secret Six", "Bionic
Woman", "Kromag", "Neutro", and dozens of others. Does
anyone know what has become of him? <br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I'm not sure it could thrive in today's market, but I'd like to see someone else give 'Yang' another shot.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...With the whole general greater-popularness of
Asiana , ( & just the far greater # of Asians in America
) , maybe it might have more a chance than you
think ? Granted , the specific "...Everybody Was Kung
Fu-Fighting <br>( HUUUHHHHH ! )..." 73-74 Bruce Lee-inspired
craze it basically , sort of , rode in on is long over
, but...


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Perhaps even more so than Yang itself would be a
sincere attempt to revive "House of Yang". This little
book by Sanho Kim is one of the most beautiful and
strangely interesting stories Charlton ever printed. The
mileau of 19th century China was fascinating. It would
be interesting to see the Yang story
completed.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Though I don't know what happened to Jack, I do know that he was born in 1916.  So he'd be about 84 years old if he was still with us.  Undoubtedly he is retired at this point.<br><br>Loston


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I had no idea he was quite that old. As the years
wear on and the beginning of comics stretches further
and further into the past these connections with the
old pros will become more and more
difficult.<br><br>Dean


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There is a new E-Man link available. There isn't
much the E-Man fan doesn't already know, but it is a
nice summary of the Engery Man's career and publishing
record. I was put on to this site by Jon. You will find
lots of little entries for various heroes and
companies (not alas Charlton).<br><br>The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.stormloader.com/markstein/cartoonopedia/eman.htm target=new>http://www.stormloader.com/markstein/cartoonopedia/eman.htm</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charlton makes yet one more (with many to go I
reckon) showing at Scott Shaw's Oddball Comics column.
This time in a general celebration of Hanna-Barbara
the Charlton run of Flinstone books (among others)
gets a rather harsh memoir. Seems the Charlton
material wasn't too popular overseas. For the details go
to:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?=2000-12-14 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?=2000-12-14</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean <br><br>P.S. I liked them, and I
still have several issues of these classic Bullseye
laden comics.


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The number of "Comic Book Marketplace" which will
feature Steve Ditko's non-Marvel work is #84 the January
issue. I do believe it features a Ditko cover. This
should be a real treat for any Charlton fan.<br>It
should be out in just a few weeks.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I ask this in all seriousness. Steve Ditko is one
of my favorite artists, but it seems in the last ten
years or so he has really just been hacking it out. Now
to be fair I haven't seen much from him except the
stuff he does now and again for the Big Boys, but it
doesn't ever seem to have that old spark and wit.
<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I really can't say for sure as I have seen very little of his recent work, but I seem to recall his stuff looking hacked out.<br><br>Loston


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I think it may just be age catching up with him ,
he must be what? 70-80 yrs old? <br>The most recent
stuff of his I've seen is the packages Robin Snyder
publishes. The most recent one contains new stories (I
think) of Killjoy and Mr A and in places is very
entertaining, in other places its like wading through
concrete.<br>Although his art isn't as good as it was,imo, I think its
more to do with the fact he doesn't seem to be as
interested in telling a ripping yarn as he is in getting
across his philosophy on life.<br>I think the last
'mainstream stuff' I've seen of his was a 'Captain Victory'
comic for Topps and before that 'Speedball' for Marvel,
I liked Speedball to be honest.
<br>Regards,<br>Steve (who's just remembered he saw Kevin Nowlan inks
on a Ditko Spectre short for DC a couple of years
ago, very nice!)


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I know many here respect the work of the late Don
Newton. He was one of several great talents at Charlton
in the mid 70's who went on to do some fabulous work
for DC. His Shazam is considered by many to be the
best since the character's revival. There is at least
one Avengers Annual he did featuring some Marvel
characters. He did a very nice Batman and was only beginning
a run on Infinity Inc. when he passed away. If only
he were still with us. <br><br>What character either
at Marvel or DC today would you have loved to see
the talented Mr.Newton take a hand at?<br><br>I would
love to see what he did with Doctor Strange. I think
that would have been a perfect marriage of style and
character.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome Gomdulla to the Charlton Bullseye! Always
glad to welcome another fan of the little company that
could and often did. Are you a particular fan of the
Action Heroes? Or do the Ghost books speak to your
heart? War? Romance? Western?<br><br>How did you find us
by the way?<br><br>Welcome Again!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I would have loved to see him on most
anything!<br>I loved Don's Batman, Green Lantern, Phantom and
Captain Marvel! Doc Strange would be a natural fit for
Don's style. <br> I think I'd have liked to have seen
Don do something that wasn't a seeming natural fit--
Like maybe Hulk or something of that nature. Don could
handle most any superhero just fine, I think. Since this
is the Charlton club, I'll say that I'd like to see
him do Captain Atom .<br>That would be fun
!<br><br>Loston


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I think I have a drawing of Captain Atom by
Newton around here somewhere. I'll have to check, but I
think he did some wonderful renditions of the Charlton
crew for "The Charlton Portfolio", a fanzine put out
by the CPL Gang and which was the work that got them
the original Charlton Bullseye gig. I'll have to do a
little detective work.<br><br>I'll get back to
you.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Killjoy ! Barring that , p'raps Barnry Google And Snuffy Smith , or Dr. Graves mebbe ?


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It has been a while and many of us have listed
from time to time our favorite features from the the
little Charlton comics company. <br><br>But if push came
to shove and you have to pick just ONE. Which one
Charlton comics character would you select? Who is you
SINGLE favorite Charlton star?<br><br>Needless to say
you only get ONE choice. Who will it be?<br><br>Mine
is Blue Beetle by Joe Gill and the art team of Bill
Fracchio and Tony Tallarico. Those comics while inept in
many ways have a energy and a spirit I haven't found
in many comics ever and almost no modern one. I find
that bright blue costume darn near
irresistable.<br><br>That is my ONE choice. I could've dithered about
whether it was Judomaster or E-Man or someone else, but
when I have to choose just one I go with Blue
Beetle.<br><br>What is yours?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Captain Atom!  He's the coolest--specially in the orange and red costume!<br><br>Loston


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A Merry Christmas to all of my fellow club members! Here's my Christmas card to all of you, featuring Santa and Rudolph!<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/ash.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/ash.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Great! You gotta' love that Ash! Very funny card and a hilarious movie. <br><br>Thanks and by the way Happy Holidays!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Tough choice actually, but it's
pretty easy for me to pick E-Man as my favorite Charlton
character. He may not have done all that well at Charlton,
but he has proven popular enough to have been revived
elsewhere and I think he was treated better post-Charlton
than any of the characters that wound up over at
DC.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Merry Christmas,People. I guess to some of you in the US of A it already IS Christmas when I'm typing this?! Oh, the wonders of a global society eh?<br>Regards,<br>Steve.


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...Killjoy !!!!!!!!! Hoy , hoy . Oh , boy . Etc .


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Several folks have selected and we haven't had a repeat yet. Very interesting choices folks. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I want to wish everyone here a Merry Christmas
and a Happy Hanukkah. This club has been pleasure to
oversee and I want everyone to know how much I appreciate
your continued participation. I'll be out of town for
a few days so keep the Charlton homefire lit and
I'll check back in soon.<br><br>Merry Christmas and
(as always) Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I find it interesting that in the several
responses there have been no repeats. This supports one of
my beliefs about Charlton and that is over the years
they produced such a wide variety of material that
little fan niches have been created. There is no one big
hero who dominates the discussions. <br><br>So far we
have had:<br><br>Blue Beetle (Original Jay Garret
version)<br>Captain Atom (Gold costume)<br>E-Man<br> &
Killjoy.<br><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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With the club picture on the back burner for the
moment, I would like to bring up a question about
Charlton artwork. First of all, I collect original art,
owning a Brian Bolland, a Mark Schultz, Don Newton, Gil
Kane, Scott Eaton, Gary Frank, etc.. I'm always looking
to buy some old Charlton art, but I can NEVER find
any for sale! I have only seen one Charlton original
page or art in all the time I've been collecting! Why
is this do you think? Why are "C" pages so difficult
to find, while I seem to be able to find some of the
most rare pages from the 50's-70's? <br>I know for a
fact the following:<br>1.) Charlton did not destroy
pages! If they did, it happened early on only. The "C"
page rate was so low, many of the artists got their
artwork back as part of their payment.<br>2) Charlton did
lose a few originals in storage to flooding and
vandals.<br>3) At the companies end, many of the pages were
auctioned off, but according to dealers/buyers, many of the
premium artworks never made the auction and were reported
to have 'mysteriously disappeared' just before the
auction date.<br> Anyone have any clues about such
matters? <br><br>Loston


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Not a clue. I have heard stories that a lot of
Charlton material was simply buried when the plant was
plowed under. I doubt that involved anything we would be
primarily interested in, but I read this somewhere from
someone who said they saw it happen. You are right that
they likely wouldn't have destroyed material as they
would have been apt to reuse it, but they certainly
might have recycled the raw materials. They seemed to
attach little value to the artistic worth of the
work.<br><br>I imagine that some of the stuff just "went home"
with people from time to time. If I run across
anything I'll let you know.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I think I'll have to go with the Question.
Mysterious Suspense #1 was a great book. I believe DC just
put out a Millennium Edition of it, and recommend
this story to everyone - especially now that it can be
easily found.<br><br>Honorable mention goes to
Thunderbunny though. He didn't get first choice because M.L.
Greim (sp?) still owns him even though he first
appeared in Charlton Bullseye.<br><br>~Jim


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Thunderbunny is one of the purest entertainment creations I've ever seen. So goofy, yet involving.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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What I wouldn't do for a John Byrne Doomsday +1 page of quality.  Or a Don Newton Phantom, Ditko Captain Atom or Blue Beetle, etc.!<br><br>Loston


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I would like to see some of those great old Ditko
ghost covers in the original. I bet Pat Boyette's work
looks great in its raw form too. His pencilling and
inking were so tight that the actual art must be very
impressive. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Tbings have gotten a little quiet here. That
doesn't distress me given that our subject of interest is
a defunct comics company and new information about
it is rare and limited in its accessability. But
what would you like to see here? What subjects are
there to discuss? Feel free to dive in and ask some
questions.<br><br>I look forward to the responses.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hi Dean,<br>I am interested in if anyone here has
a copy of Space Adventures #44 with the first
Mercury Man in it. I have a copy of #45 with what I
believe to be the second and last adventure.<br>IMHO I
think the character was interesting and what he did by
leaving the Communist leadership on Mercury highly
unusual for a comic. Any other opinions?


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Subject: Re: Mercury Man-Space Adventures #44?
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I happen to have that issue Don. I have never
seen the second issue but would very much like to
someday. The introductory issue is pretty basic stuff as
far as premieres go, but as you suggest this
character was a little different. I am surprised we haven't
seent his little guy show up somewhere else. The wings
on his head were too much. I'll have to do another
reading of it before I could comment further.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hi Dean<br>I will be glad to post the seond story
if you want. Would you be able to post the first
issue. I have tried repeatedly to buy and have had no
luck.<br>Thanks and take care, Don.<br><br>HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!


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Don/Dean,<br><br>I would be delighted to see
either or both of the Mercury Man stories. That is a
character I completely missed at the newstand, and although
I have seen an image or two of him and have read a
brief entry about him somewhere (probably Jeff Rovin's
'Encyclopedia of Super Heroes'), there is no substitute for the
real thing.<br><br>I may as well add the
obligatory:<br><br>Happy New Year!<br>Jon


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I have yet to successfully to post anything from
my scanner to the net. I will go through my lessons
again and give it another try. I would really like to
know how the story comes out too.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: A  Club Needs Some Help!
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The Dell and Gold Key Comic Club needs a boost.
This Yahoo location dedicated to perhaps the single
most powerful publisher of the late 50's and 60's has
been limping along for sometime now. These venerable
comics surely must have some devotees here and I hope
you can find your way over there and give the place a
look.<br><br>The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dellandgoldkeycomicclub target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dellandgoldkeycomicclub</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Space Adventures #45 Mercury Man is up!!
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It was a fierce battle between Space Ranger and
Yahooie, but after 2 days and numerous heroes Yahooie
surrendered and I can now proclaim that the second Mercury
Man Adventure is up in our photos section. As an
added note, I won Space Adventures #13 off of Ebay and
it features the 1954 return of the BLUE BEETLE.
Whenit arrives I will post an album from
it.<br>Incidentally, I see a lot of great protential in the Mercury
Man character as his powers adapt to earth. First of
all, he must be a shape changer and be able to adapt
to extremes of heat and cold abd may actually be
able to generate heat or cold.<br>ANyone else care to
suggest what some of his powers might be?<br>Don


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The Mercury Man here is rather different from the
one in issue #44. I will make an attempt to get that
story scanned in so that everyone can compare. The
power of Mercury Man seems rather unlimited here. His
solution to the problem of worldwide conflict seem
draconian at the least.<br>But what else can one do about
such overwhelming problems in a mere handful of
pages.<br><br>I would like to see this character developed. He
definitely has some J'onn J'onzz
characteristics.<br><br>Thanks for taking the time to scan this story in
Don.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Re: Characters Ripe for Revival?
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Hey to everyone - a new member just checking
through the messages .. and I have to say I had forgotten
about Yang until I saw this .. and suddenly remembered
how much I loved those as well. My earliest memories
of comics are primarily Charlton titles - their
Hercules, Fightin' Army and Yang ... mixed in with Weird
War Tales and G.I. Combat. <br><br>I guess my
question would be then .. who owns the rights to Yang? I
don't ever remember seeing him in any DC revival. Does
anyone else?<br><br>Just have to say .. I am glad I
found this club! -- Joe


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Hi Dean,<br>I really think this guy has protential.  If you can scan the story great, if not I will keep plugging away at Ebay.  Thanks and take care. Don


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From: sonofvulcan
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Subject: Welcome New Charltonian!
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Welcome Joekinski to the Bullseye. Glad you found
us Joe and I am even more glad that you took a
moment to post a message. <br><br>I have no answers for
you on the Yang question, but I'm pretty sure DC
doesn't have the rights to Yang. They only have the
Action Heroes from the 60's and not all of those. I
would imagine Yang is owned by the guy in Canada who
does the ACG reprints but that is only a
guess.<br><br>Welcome again!<br>Dean


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I'll sure give it a try this weekend Don. I won't
have time before then to give it a full effort. Once I
master this technique there are a few things I would
love to scan in here. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 03 Jan 2001 00:39:11 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 00:39:11 -0800
Subject: CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT!
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There is a new print fanzine out for Charlton
comics. I got the first issue in the mail yesterday and
it is very much like the CPL Gang Charlton Bullseye
which gives this internet site its name. In fact our
little internet campfire got a mention in this issue as
an internet source for Charlton information. It was
kind of neat to see the Charlton Bullseye getting some
kind of outside recognition. <br><br>THE CHARLTON
SPOTLIGHT is put out by Argo Press and a fellow named
Michael Ambrose. The first issue features a number of
features on the late Pat Boyette. I learned a great deal
about the artist and realize that there is quite a bit
of his work out there still to seek out.<br><br>Also
included is a Checklist of all Charlton publications. (It
is an ongoing effort.)<br><br>I highly recommend
this book to every member here.<br>The cost of the
book is $6.95 and the address to order one
is:<br><br>Argo Press<br>P.O.Box 4201<br>Austin,
TX<br>78765-4201<br><br>I don't know how many of these are still available
but the indicia indicates $10.00 will get you the
next two issues of the fanzine. I have no idea as to
the frequency of the magazine but as with most labors
of love this one will probably be intermittant. It
is very professionally done and the cover is a Tom
Sutton piece done just for the issue.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks for the kind welcome ... hope to be fairly
active here ... after about ten years away from the
comic book field ... I dived back in about six motnhs
ago ... and I don't feel like coming back up for air.
One of the first things I happened upon was the CBA
issue on the Charlton heroes ... and though for the
most part those are before my time .. I remember
fondly their 70s titles .. which were the first comics I
remember reading .. I was amazed to see the Fightin' Army
I remember most in the Schultz interview in the
CBA. I can hardly wait for the next part ... hopefully
they'll have Baron Wierwulf and Mr. Bones from Ghost
Manor this time.<br><br>Thanks again for the welcime --
Joe


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Dean - if you haven't picked up ish 25 of Birds
of Prey it does make an interesting read, and
thankfully you don't need to buy a whole load of back issues
to figure out what is going on. From what I
understand, Ted Kord has been retired for several years now,
has been putting on weight again, he ven makes a
crack about the part he hated most was exercising every
day .. but he has kept in conduct with some of the
other computer heroes (Oracle - who is Barbara Gordon
since she's been crippled, while there is another
Batgirl and don't ask because it gives me a headache:) )
He decides to take Barbara out in the old beetle to
tour Gotham, and has an epiphany where he must put the
costume back on again. It is all eerily reminiscent of
the scenes in Watchmen where Night Owl stares at his
costume, and he takes (Dang forgot her name) out in his
owlship... almost like a flipside version of the Watchmen ..
with it being hopeful, rather thna hopeless... -- Joe


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From: jfglade
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:01:23 -0800
Subject: Captain Atom on Nailnews
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I couldn't help but notice that<br><br><a href=http://www.nailnews.com target=new>http://www.nailnews.com</a>


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From: jfglade
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Subject: Re: Captain Atom on Nailnews (oops!)
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Sorry, I was checking the link to make sure it
was live in the previous message and hit the wrong
button, posting prematurely. 'Space Adventures' Vol.3
No.35 with an early Captain Atom story was posted this
morning on the alt.binaries site and can be accessed
through the Nailnews link. This is the real deal, not one
of the reprinted issues of 'Space Adventure' from
the mid-70s but scans of an actual 1960 issue. For
those who don't know about the Nailnews link or cannot
recall the URL, I'll put a link below. Once you hit the
link, click on "alt.binaries.pictures.comics" and go to
today's date and page 1 ("3/1"). The scans are
interrupted by a Superman story from 'World's Finest' #10 but
pick up again after those 14 pages. Here's the link
(again):<br><br><a href=http://www.nailnews.com target=new>http://www.nailnews.com</a><br><br>Enjoy,<br>Jon


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From: jfglade
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:37:30 -0800
Subject: Don Newton website
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<a href=http://donnewton.com/ target=new>http://donnewton.com/</a><br><br>That's probably all
I need to say. There is a nice section on Newton's
work for Charlton, which features some pages from some
of the ghost/mild horror books and a wealth of
Phantom scans. I haven't checked out the rest of the site
yet, but that's what I'm going to do
next.<br><br>Enjoy,<br>Don


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Thanks Jon. This site is already up on the links
and in fact it is the source of the last few club
pics featuring the Phantom. You will really like this
site. It is one of the best artist sites I have
encountered.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I saw that the site was already in the links when I went to add it. Oh well, it still doesn't hurt to draw a little more attention to it.<br><br>Just trying to help out,<br>Jon


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I believe I added the Newton site to the links
some time ago, but I might be mistaken, as I'm a
member of a dozen yahoo clubs. Newton is tops with me
too, as I've jabbered many times. I only wish that the
Newton website was put together in a more user friendly
fashion and updated on occasion. I'm seriously
considering putting up my own Newton site!<br><br>Loston


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That would be wonderful Loston. I don't think the
talents of a guy like Newton would be overtaken by two
websites. The more I read about Newton, the clearer it
becomes that his death was not only a tragedy for those
who loved and knew him but for the whole comics
community.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Scott Shaw over at Oddball Comics has found
another gem from the Charlton backlist to bring to light.
Space Western Comics featuring Spurs Jackson and his
Space Vigilantes is the kind of comic I think everyone
wants to have at least one copy of. A true space
western is rare. To get a closer look at this "classic"
the address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-05 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-05</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Does anybody have anything to say re: the Charlton " PARTRIDGE FAMILY " comic , which , I think , DOES have a rep. as a rather <br>" oddball comic " , and , may've got. the Shaw tratment awlreddy...?


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I never read much in the way of Charlton
adaptations, prefering their own creations to Emergency, Space
1999, Bionic Man, etc.. I've never actually even seen a
Partridge Family Charlton comic, so I feel lucky.
Hehe.<br><br>Loston


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I think I may have one or two around somewhere.
One thing I do know that I have are some promotional
bits for David Cassidy and Bobby Sherman in some
Romance comics from the early 70's. Those illustrated
posters are groovy. These are a hoot and themselves
deserve that oddball treatment.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Single ( or couble- ) page pinups ? Slick , bound-in ' extras " ? Can 'yezz scan 'em ?


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I only have one issue, but it is a really great
one to have. It's the "Partridge Family Summer
Special" issue (otherwise known as #5). It has some pages
that are pin-ups to color in of all the characters.
Almost every ad has something to do with David Cassidy
and contains the words, "Groovy" or "Luv" or both.
Even an ad for Susan Dey's Private Journal has a line
that says, "Plus...What Susan's Learned From David
Cassiday!". The best thing about the book by far, though, is
the first story, "The Nostalgia Bug Bites Reuben". It
has really well done full-page posters of several
radio stars by Don Sherwood. The Shadow one is
particularly good. It discusses Movie Serials and has a small
picture of Flash and Ming, then mentions Feature Films
and has drawings of "Hoppy" (Hopalong Cassidy (sp?))
and Gene Autry. It even shows a copy of Reuben's
"Lone Ranger Theatre Club" card. All in all, a neat
issue - if you want to see one issue of this series,
I'd suggest this one.<br><br>happy hunting,<br>Jim


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Jim - as a pretty big Shadow fan .. I must say I am rather jealous .. one more to add ot the list of things to look for. -- Joe


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Does anyone know of a good source for information
regarding the creation of Captain Atom? I am thinkin
something akin to the Magnus article in Comic Book
Marketplace 83. %There was not too much in the Comic Book
Artist Charlton issue .. and with the 70 bent, doubt
their next issue will have anything either. I am
especially curious into the contemperaneous creation of
Doctor Solar over at Gold Key. The two have always
struck me as very similar characters. I am going to post
a similar message over on the Dell Comic Board..
and will pass on any information that seems
interesting.<br>Thanks! -- Joe


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It seems to me that I have read an article somewhere that speculated on just the question you are raising about Cap and Solar. <br>I'll have to look around for it.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I finally remembered to look for Birds of Prey
#25. It was a very fine comic. I generally like Chuck
Dixon's work and this is no exception. Now to be honest I
just don't have the time and money to keep up with the
Bat-books and I guess this one is considered one of those.
So it was kind of neat to have a excuse to peek into
this world that I have steered clear of for so long. I
didn't know Butch Guice was drawing this comic. He is
the perfect choice and his Black Canary is beautiful.
<br><br>But about things Beetle. I agree that this is
certainly some kind of homage to the Watchmen sequence.
There are far too many parallels (even down to page and
panel design) for this to be an accident. It is clever
the way they do follow without aping the earlier
classic sequence. Beetle is in his heroic finest, filled
with doubt and all too human. You feel the fire
because he feels it. If a new Beetle book could look and
sound this good I would say do one immediately.
<br><br>Thanks for the tip. It was nice read.<br><br>Dean


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I would appreciate it, Dean. Thanks! -- Joe


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I belatedly found ( I think Dean's? orig. message
may've given a wrong add. ) the Oddball Comics about
foreign liscencees finding C.'s Hanna-Barbera titles to
be lousy ! ( " And they didn't like them , either !
" ) Pretty amusing ! Anyone have any more details
about this <br> occasion ?!?!?!!!!!!


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Walter,<br><br>You can always leave that question for Scott! Shaw on his own Oddball board at CBR. Chances are good he will respond with added details.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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I checked that address and it does take you
somewhere odd (unintentionally) but it worked before. I
check them all before I post them, and the comic this
one takes you too now wasn't even up when I set up
that link. Must be some of those "transient conditions
on the web" you hear so much about.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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...I guess the jig is up hhuhh ? When'd you guess
I'm Walter - I mean , the pun on A Certain (
Originally , Anyway ) Charlton-Published Eight-Page Back-Up
is relatively upfront ( Plus , it's a wordplay on My
Real Full Name , which in fact I never HAVE favored
you with . ) - I jus' decided 2 uh , " let it go ,
let it flow " , as Dave Mason once sang - suitably
70s reference , eeehhh ?


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Your third message at "The Defenders Club" gave
you away, although you also verified your indentity
at several other clubs within a few weeks. Your
posting style is like a fingerprint, or maybe more like a
mugshot.


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It was a secret? <br><br>Dean


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...It's known as " Style " , Son !!!!!!! Knowhatimsayin' ?


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I haven't been able to find the article I'm
thnking about Joe. I have confirmed what you already know
and that Captain Atom is the first of the two heroes
to make an appearance. His debut in 1960 predates
not only Solar but also the Fantastic Four. Solar I
would imagine must have been inspired at least to some
degree by Captain Atom. The fact that Solar's skin
turned green when he transformed into Solar most likely
was an echo of the Hulk. That's speculation, but
seems to be reasonable. <br><br>I'll keep looking. I
checked out an article in "The Charlton Portfolio" (the
precursor to the Charlton Bullseye by the CPL Gang) and I
checked an article in RBCC #140 featuring a great Mike
Zeck image of Captain Atom.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean, thanks for checking into that for me. I
think I am going to have to do a little digging myself
.. you've given me some ideas though .. if I find
anything interesting .. I'll let ya'll know. -- Joe


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Welcome to a new member,Curtsixtn. Glad to have
you here at the Bullseye. Don't hesitate to add to
the conversation. Things tend to be quiet here with
little bursts of activity. Which part of the Charlton
empire is your favorite? Are you a superhero fan, ghost
fan, or western fan?<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I don't know what it is really, but I just love
old comics that deal with the Cold War. Captain Atom,
Doomsday+1, early Fantastic Four comics, Kamandi--all of
these fill me with a sense of nostalgia--when, at any
time, the missles might fly, and everything we know
might suddenly come to an end. I don't hate Russians,
or Chinese or anything like that, but there was a
time when COMMUNISM was the enemy. The above comics
reflect the patriotic feelings that most Americans had.
The Cold War might have indeed been a scary time to
live, but its very mention stirs up fantastic fantasy
imagery. The ATOMIC AGE. Nuclear mushroom clouds,
radiation enhanced monsters, flying saucers, and many other
vivid pictures spring to mind when thinking of the 50's
and 60's era of the Atomic Age. The age of the Cold
War. I grew up in the 70's, missing out on the first
moon landing by only a few months, but I really have
an infinity for the early days of the 50's and 60's
sci-fi/fantasy--not so much for the Cold War--but the Cold War
sparked some very creative ideas. Planet of the Apes,
James Bond, Dr. Strangelove, The Day After, Mad Max,
and a ton of other great movies dealt with the
threat/reality of Nuclear devistation. Hell, even Star Trek was
a bi-product of this era! <br> Despite being a
truly frightning era, it holds a lot of charm for me
somehow. I must be one weird guy.<br><br>Loston


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Nothing strange about being attracted to simpler
times Loston. Now that the Cold War is an historical
relic (according to the popular interpretation anyway)
it is easier to look back upon it with a calm remove
from the pain and suffering involved. Much like any
nostalgic attitude it glosses over the pain and the focus
remains on the pleasure. Knowing the enemy made for an
easy world to apprehend. <br><br>I love the Sci-Fi
Invasion movies of the late 50's. But that is because I
sit comfortably removed from the anxiety that made
these films function on a visceral level. I can "watch
the skies" more confident that the missles aren't
coming. That admonition carried a great deal more weight
when the threat seemed imminent.<br><br>Charlton is a
product of those times and many, many of its stories grow
naturally out of the uglier aspects of that time. Maybe the
passing of the Charlton company was more pregnant with
meaning than we might first understand. Perhaps they were
the last of an old guard born of the paranoia and
dying with the fall of the wall.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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...Uhhh , I might point out that Charlton ,
really , " died " early in Jimmy Carter's term - '77 ?
Late Gerry ? - , really , when they , basically ,
stopped putting out new stuff , and , then , sort of
choked-wheezed-gasped through a number of half-assed would-be
resserections - a period that nobody much at this spot seems to
have shown much interest in - 'fore , FINALLY , giving
up th' ghost(s , of Dr. Graves . ) - in '86 - when ,
I guess ( I kinda wasn't noticing ! ) Reagan-era
saber-rattling WAS still going on pretty heavily , and , to be
fair , th' " USSR " still seemed like a fairly strong
dictatorship , though . little did we know...And , when th'
'Ford/'Peanut " first death " took place , <br>" detente " , in
that ever so " warmed-down " Seventies way , was the
word !!!!! ( And , a couple years after that , GREASE
was the word ! Hopelessly devoted to you ! You're the
one that I want !<br>We go together ! But I digress .
)


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True enough. Charlton took a long time to give up
the ghost. But its dying in stages really came to a
final and irrevocable end when the place was bulldozed
in the early 90's. Never again would Charlton (of
Derby Connecticut fame) rise again.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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This link will take you directly to the Oddball Comics, where you can look through the archives.<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball</a>


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Oh, and there's no use bookmarking an individual "Oddball Comic" until after it's been replaced and archived, as the URL will change when a new one is put in its place.<br><br>Doc


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...put up a picky ( by yr.baaaad self ! ) of Hagar The Horrible , recent-like ? If so...


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I know what you mean. I usually wait one day and then key in on the date to make sure the link takes to that one comic alone. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The next issue of Comic Book Artist due out in
March will feature the Charlton company one more time.
In the current issue featuring Alex Toth and Sheldon
Mayer there are some previews of the coming Charlton
issue and an image of the new cover by Joe Staton. It
is gorgeous. Most of the Ghost comics hosts are
featured as well as E-Man and Nova. The issue will feature
tons more info on the defunct company and what's more
features a NEW E-Man story. I'm breathless!<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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I'm not exactly sure what you are refering too--but I did a drawing a little while back of a friends bargarian character who is named Hagar.  That what you are refering to?<br><br>Loston


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Dean - you beat me to the punch .. I stayed up all night just admiring the Toth art and goggling at the Staton cover. I can hardly wait till March now! -- Joe


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...Not King Features Syndicate's Hagar The Horrible ? ( Or , the " Aunt hagar " whos'<br> " Blues " an early , memorable , Louis Armstrong record , I am told , concerned !!!!! )


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What say we all read the issue and discuss the articles here?  I'm game, and I can't wait to get it in the mail.<br><br>Loston


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The Charlton issue isn't scheduled until March,
but you can be certain it will be a central source of
discussion here. I too am looking forward to it. This should
be a lot of fun to read. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charlton makes yet another appearance at Oddball
Comics. This time it is a little TV adaptation from 1956
by the name of "Long John Silver & The Pirates". For
the full skinny on this odd comic go
to:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-18 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-18</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The current DC Elseworlds JLA mini-series , " ACT OF GOD " ( I THINK that's it's title . ) involves Ted/Blue Beetle , throughout all 3 ishs . More details ? ( As ever...)


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Beetle is a featured character, but it is not a
particularly flattering vision of the hero. He and Booster
Gold seize the "opportunity" they see with the likes
of Superman and Wonder Woman out of commission to
make their own success. They are put forth as rather
self-aborbed types who ultimately pay for their lack of
vision.<br><br>On the upside the Beetle looks great as rendered by
Dave Ross. Ross has a real knack for drawing heroes
with truly human proportions and the Beetle is a
perfect subject for such treatment.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Hey all, I just got the word that the new issue
of Previews has the ad for KLYDE & MERIEM, the
Cavewoman comic I am penciling is out on the shelves. It is
a full page b/w ad designed by my wife Carolyn and
myself. It is listed under the BASEMENT COMICS section.
Fellow club member John Trumbull has provided help by
coloring the book's cover and provides a pinup in the back
of the book as well! Do both us a big favor by
getting the issue of PREVIEWS, and ordering a copy of
KLYDE & MERIEM from your local comic store! That's the
only way that we will see any money on this thing. I
think you'll enjoy the book!<br><br>Loston


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Charlton appears at Oddball Comics again. This
time the comic is "Blondie" and the cover in question
features the one and only Dagwood Bumstead becoming a
SUPERHERO. Very entertaining comic, and what's more this is
one I actually own. I'll have to dig it out and give
it another read. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-25 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-01-25</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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There is some Blue Beetle news at Dixonverse
(Chuck Dixon's homepage) and it is good. There is
apparently coming in November of this year an unofficial
Blue Beetle month. He will be appearing in three
comics Dixon handles. There are some more Birds of Prey
appearances coming and Dixon promised a full-blown Beetle
issue at some point. For the details (there aren't
many) go
to:<br><br><a href=http://www.dixonverse.com/ target=new>http://www.dixonverse.com/</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Is there any rhyhme or reason to the Modern
reprints of Charlton books? I have recently seen Captain
Atom 83-84, The Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves 25, and
House of Yang 1. Is there an easy place to look for a
list of these reprints? Mostly curious .. the print
quality seems atrocious on them .. the Captain Atom 83
especially looked like it was about seven times too dark.
You couldn't even distinguish the Ditko art. -- Joe


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I'm not immediately aware of a listing outside of
what is available from Overstreet. It does seem they
indicate certain things about these particular reprints. I
have a number of these and as far as I can tell there
really isn't much of a pattern to them. The Captain Atom
issues are in a sequence and I do have at least one Blue
Beetle, a reprint of #1. Seems like there are some
Peacemakers too.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome Doctor Pym to The Charlton Bullseye. This
is a quiet corner of the internet that Al Gore
invented, but we do have a few things to say and share from
time to time. With the folks at Twomorrows coming out
with the second Charlton issue in just a month or so
things should get more interesting here. Feel free to
post and by all means share your Charlton memories.
That's all any of us have.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I know I've mentioned this in the past, but you
know--every time I hear the words "Charlton Comics" I think
of their charm. Cheap paper, bizarre ads, lousy
printing, whacky ideas--but still, Charlton Comics seemed
special inspite of all of the above. The company and its
comics were unique amonst all the others--horror titles,
Army mags, cartoon license--even their superheroes
were different than the status quo! <br> Damn, I miss
Charlton comics, but it's hard for me to envision them
existing in this day and age of 'big business' and
commercialism. It's probably better that they faded out when
they did, because I'd hate to see the Charlton charm
turn to greed as is the situation with other comic
companies. <br> Still got my memories.<br><br>Loston


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I take your point, but I think one of the things
that gives that nostalgic charm to those old Charlton
comics is the pure essence of "making a buck" which
dominated the company. They were the last of old-style
publishers who jumped on bandwagons and surfed on the newest
trend. Of course they eventually got the whole game to
themselves when the niche markets were abandoned by the
others. Their little mom and pop approach to publishing
made things profitable for them that the others
couldn't touch.<br><br>Sure the comics look like crap. But
that jagged trimming and those weird covers with the
vaguely gritty and somewhat oily feeling really made
reading a comic a multi-sensory experience. I think too
that the paper they used was such low quality that it
seemed to be decaying (perceptably) in your hand and the
smells...Ah...the smells. There is just something magical about the
smell of rotting newsprint that takes me back to my
childhood.<br><br>Charlton didn't seem greedy because they always seemed
satisfied with a simple profit clearly made. They weren't
distracted by a million marketing deals, they made comics
God Bless Them!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The newest issue of CBJ (#230) has a huge
interview with Tom Sutton. I haven't finished with it yet
(I'm still reading the last CBA for cryin' out loud),
but it looks quite fascinating. Lots of panel work
from his Charlton and Warren horror days, although the
panel blurbs go out of their way to denigrate Charlton.
Check out the cover for Ghost Manor #23 they reprint
though for one of the wildest 70s horror covers. I had
forgotten about that one. So .. check it out. -- Joe


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...( For those among us who were able to get the CBA Char. issue ! ) Considering the circumstances that lead to the two partners of Charlton meeting each other...!...


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HA HA! I had completely forgotten about that&gt; Thanks for a good afternoon larf, Waltsland!


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I looked at this one pretty hard, but finally let
it go. The Sutton interview is tempting, but the
Journal's attitude about such work as Charlton produced can
be grating after a very short while. I prefer my
magazines to be a bit less condenscending towards the
topic.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Yeah .. I know what you mean. I haven't made it
to the Charlton section of the Sutton interview yet,
but the large section where Groth esssentially
attempts to solicite any negative comments at all re: Jim
Warren is kinda sickening and repetitive .. especially
as it drags outover five pages. The thing is ..
Sutton actually has a lot of nice things to say about
Warren and his work .. although he is also one of the
more spacier interviews I've read in a long time! If I
do come across anything interesting over the weekend
I will post it on Monday.<br><br>What I am looking
forward to as a counterpoint is the Sutton interview in
the next CBA - Charlton issue. Has anyone read the
Warren issue of CBA? Do they talk to Sutton there as
well?? -_ Joe


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For the record Captain Atom makes a few cameo
appearances in the recently completed Justice Leagues
one-month event from DC. He is shown as a member of the
"Justice League of the Air" and shows up in one panel of
Justice League of Aliens #1 and Justice Leagues#1. He
doesn't say anything as far as I noticed, but he was the
only Charlton hero who was made a part of any of the
teams. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome to the Charlton Bullseye Billad8199. Glad
to have you here Bill and don't hesitate to leave a
post. How did you find us, if you don't mind me asking?
What kind of Charlton book is your favorite?
<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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And I thank God that hes back in his silver look, rather then those other two horrid costumes they gave him in the L.A.W. series.


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You're absolutely right Big Daddy. I hadn't even
noticed that he was back in his "original" DC togs. It
may simply be a lack of specific guidance for the
artist though since I really doubt much thought was
given to Atom's role in the story.<br><br>I didn't mind
the first costume (blue and silver) he had in the
L.A.W. but I must say the Alex Ross inspired golden
costume did look rather awful as rendered in that last
issue.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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You're probably right about the artist not paying
attention. However, I've seen the Captain a few times since
L.A.W. ended, and hes always wearing the pure silver
look. Granted, none of these appearences have been very
significant. I really didn't like the blue and silver costume
he briefly had, but anything was better then that
psydo-Judo Master look they gave him. I hope we don't see
that again until the real Kingdom Come.


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Thanks, sonofvulcan, I was really happy to find
a<br>place on the net dedicated exclusively to one of<br>the
most neglected comic book publishers of the<br>last
century. I found this through a search engine<br>(can't
remember which one, I tried quite a few.)<br>My favorite
charlton books are Charlton Bullseye<br>(the comic-sized
one), Captain Atom and Scary <br>Tales. Now, there's
one question (no pun intended)<br>that's been bugging
me for a while. Exactly what<br>year did Charlton
stop publishing comics? 1985?<br>86? Well, thanks
again for the welcome...<br><br>-Bill A.D.


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Has anyone seen this on the stands yet? I though
it was supposed to come out in January, but here we
are in February and I haven't seen it. The back cover
of #83 blurbed an article on Steve Ditko's 70s
horror work for Charlton .. so keep an eye out for it.
-- Joe


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#84?!?!? I haven't got #83 and I have a subscription!!!!  I don't think there is a Comic Book Marketplace anymore.<br>BTW what was on the cover????<br>Don


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Hey, Don -- issue 83 has Magnus the Robot Hunter
on the cover .. it is primarily a Dell/Gold Key
based issue .. with Magnus and Twilight Zone covered
extensively. The other story of note was a history of Plastic
Man, detailing all the different versions out there
since DC took him over. The back cover blurbs ish 84
with a Bronze Age Ditko Charlton horror spotlight. The
mock-up cover sports a January 2001 date, but I don't
remember what the planned picture looked like. I'll check
it out tonight when I get home and let you know
tomorrow. -- Joe


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I guess I need to contact them anyway.  They used to be fairly regular and on time and then started to combine issues get late and so on.Hmmmmmmm<br>Thanks for your help.<br>Don


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Subject: " LAST KISS " !!!!!
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I just bought " LAST KISS " , this comic that
reprints old Charlton romance stories ( It's legit , the
guy bought <br>out one? Charlton title - " FIRST KISS
" ,<br>I suppose !!!!! - 100% ! ) with , new ,
humorous , dialogue<br>caps . ( A strip version runs in
Comic Buyer's Guide ! ) <br> It turns out that it
reprints one , oddball , story unchanged , apparently , &
has a brief , original , interview with Joe Gill , so
, this puppy is most DEFINITELY helping along
Charlton consiousness !!!!!!!!!


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...I DID order your " Cavewoman " ( or whate. 'tis called . ) one-shot , incidentally...Must go...


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Thanks for the tip on the Joe Gill interview. I have seen a couple of these and if it ain't too 'spenive I might just have to buy it. We'll see. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I've been waiting on this thing too. I did find a
copy of the Gold Key/Magnus issue and once I saw that
ad I knew I had to have the next one. But so far,
nothing! I have read on the net that Marketplace has had
some problems and may not be extant. If anyone hears
anything please let me know too.<br><br>Thanks in
advance.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks man! I appreciate your letting me know so
much, I'm gonna give you a sneak peek of one of the
rough sketches that will more than likely be in the
book--call it a
tease!<br><a href=http://www.geocties.com/lostonwallace/page15a.jpg target=new>http://www.geocties.com/lostonwallace/page15a.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Hey, Loston, I think you dropped an I in Cities.
Check this out:
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/page15a.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/page15a.jpg</a> to get onto the page in question. Looks sharp,
Loston!! Can't wait to see the rest.. -- Joe


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Yikes!  You're right!  Thanks dude!<br><br>Loston


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So .. out of curiosity I checked out Gemstone's
website .. and they are advertising the current issue ..
#74! With a spanky Green Lantern cover. And soliciting
EC stories for big issue #78. *sigh* Does that mena
I am ahead of the pack now??? -- Joe


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Subject: Captain Atom/Nightshade reprint news!
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May 2001 will feature a "Lost Brave & Bold" 80
page Annual comics from DC. Among other gems in this
comic, will be a Cap Atom/Nightshade team up for the
swingin' 60s!<br><br>Here's the info from DC & the cover
image--<br><br><a href=http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0102/13/BraveAndBoldLostAnnual.htm target=new>http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0102/13/BraveAndBoldLostAnnual.htm</a><br><br>Written by Bob Haney, Jack Kirby and Dave Kelar; art by
George Roussos, Carmine<br>Infantino, Joe Simon, Steve
Ditko, Charles Paris, Kirby, and Rocke Mastroserio;
cover by<br>Dick Giordano <br>A "lost" 80-Page giant
presents classic team-ups of Martian Manhunter and Green
Arrow<br>(The Brave and The Bold #50), Batman and the Flash
(The Brave and The Bold #67), The<br>Boy Commandos,
Sandman and Sandy, the Guardian and the Newsboy Legion
(Detective<br>Comics #76), and Captain Atom and Nightshade (Captain
Atom #85 -- first series). <br>80 pages, $5.95,
arrives in stores on May 30. <br><br><br>Pretty nifty,
don't ya
think?<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://www.startrektoptens.com target=new>http://www.startrektoptens.com</a>


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I saw that yesterday too. It is pretty cool. I know I have Captain Atom 82 with the original Nightshade/Captain Atom pairing, but not 85. Should be fun to see! -- Joe


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Steve Topper Member - posted February 14, 2001
06:16 AM<br><br>The following was published in a weekly
Bud Plant newsletter: "Comic Book Marketplace on
hiatus: Gary Carter has resigned as editor, so Gemstone
is considering what to do to carry on the magazine.
Writer Pat Calhoun may become the new editor. I want to
say that although CBM has some problems, such as too
much focus on comics as investments, it has
consistently offered collectors informative articles plus
quality art and interviews. I especially enjoy Nolan's
Notebook by Michelle Nolan, who is one of the most
knowledgeable people in Gold and Silver Age comics. She's also
one of the best writers, being a professional
newspaper writer for almost 30 years. I want to thank Gary
for his long career on CBM, and I hope the magazine
can carry on."<br>Hope this info helps.
Steve<br><br>So I guess we weren't the only ones looking for it.
-- Joe


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I'm always up for any Charlton reprint and this
one looks to be a dandy. Add to that the fact that
Brave and Bold may well have been my single favorite DC
title after the Justice League and I will be very much
there for this one.<br><br>Thanks for the info
Bruce.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Well that should settle that. Why couldn't they have waited just ONE more issue though! Sigh!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. Thanks Joe.


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I just wonder how many other subscribers got screwedup.  If the last ussue was truly the last, maybe it might show up on ebay someday.<br>Siiiigggghhhh


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Welcome Equinox441 to The Charlton Bullseye.
Always glad to have a new Charlton fan around. Don't
hesitate to post and by all means tell us what characters
and books you like Paula.<br><br>Welcome
again!<br>Dean


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Subject: Fightin' 5 #32 !!!
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I found a real treasure in the dollar bins
yesterday. Fightin' 5 #32 in decent shape and all ready to
read. The cover was a nice image by Giordano and the
interiors featured lush Rocke and Masterioso. It's the
finds of this kind that keep you digging through those
back-issue boxes.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Charlton: The Final Gasp Years !!!!!!!!!
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Somebody asked about Charlton's last years ( I
don' have time 2 go thru all the mess.s
to-find-out-whom . ) , and how late they were pub-ling comics...I
went through Overstreet , looking up some titles ,
and...<br>(1) - " ATOMIC MOUSE " went to #13 , " ?/86 "
.<br>(2) - " IRON CORPORAL , suprising me , managed a "
#25 , Feb. 86 " !<br>(3) - However , looking up "
GHOSTLY HAUNTS/TALES " , and , " M.G.O.D.GRAVES " , <br>
revealed 10/84 #169 , and . 5/82 #72 . respectively , last
dates for 'em !!!!!!!!!<br> I'm sure there's poo-lenty
more - It's difficult to think of titles , however !
ii ( sic ! ) ll<br> If someone else . more
technoligically skilled , and ( In time & equipment . ) endowed
than I takes the ball and runs with this , looking it
up elsewhere , cyber-wise...Well , sigh , go ahead
and take the credit . It's happened before . Says I .


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The " sic ! " , below , was in reference to my
misspelling of " tech- " ( etc. ) .<br> When I was sniffing
around comics again , in '85-'86 , I very definitely
'member that Charltons were still around ! Perhaps in
newsstands , more than comics shops , but , I didn't see
many comics shops then ! <br> I certainly do assume
that , when the comics shop boom-fulled re-emergence
of comics happened , in the 80s , somebody at
Charlton must have figured that they could - or , ought to
!!!!! - tryto do SOMETHING . ( I'm not even gonna
emphasize/hypothesize - very much , anyway - if/that they felt
frustrated that they'd , essentially , sold/given up all
their SH properties , either to DC , or to their
creators - Maybe they felt they wouldn't be all that
greatly important - After all , they'd been fairly small
beans in the grand total of Charlton Comics' life . -
Then , again , maybe they DID !!!!!!! )<br> I bought a
few C.'s during this period , an Atomic Mouse or two
, which did pretty little for me ( Was there
actually any movie/TV version , as Overstreet indicates ?
) , plus a couple of Ditko-featuring things...They
were kind of treating him as their star artist by then
, as well they might ( And he...they ?...)...That
featured , in the back-up spot(s) , this " talking
protozoa/cells spout off Ayn-lovin' rhetoric " things that I
later found out was a color-added ( did Sturdy Stevie
keep the copyright/rights ? )<br>reprint of something
that'd been B&W/indie/small-scale published - This ,
running as back-up to something a touch more "
conventional " , as I remember it - Reprints , perhaps , of
Ditko mystery stories ?<br> Ya know , o sprout , us
pre-comic shop era oolldd-tyyyymeeeers DO recall that ,
famously , COVER DATES ON NEWSSTAND-DISTRO'D FUNNYBOOKS
ALWAYS DID TEND TO HAVE A RELATIVELY FAR RELATIONSHIP TO
WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY OCCUPYING SPACE ON THE
NEWSSTAND AND THUS OF OUR GREAT NATION , it's not exactly
Newsweek or Time's dating schedule/cover style in
operation here - However , I DO agree that C.'s were " out
" , perhaps , in some cases , just left lying on
the " racks , hey , as they say , but , still , " new
" , even taking any such cases as those may exist
into consideration , into Actual*Calender*Year '86 ,
maybe even '87 ????????? <br> Actually , it's nice to
know that " ther's still information yet 2B catalogued
" . <br>even ( especially ) in " my era "
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Ditko is indeed still running things of his until
the end .. Charlton Action/Static I think has an '86
date for 11 & 12 .. which are probably the last
issues. These definitely Ditko kept the copyright too as
he carries Static on into Eclipse Monthly, at least
for a little while until he runs afoul of the
editorial board, and then obviuosly prints up the Static
collection along with Robin Snyder. I just got some mags
from Snyder's company .. and included were some of the
Charlton characters with the indicia indicating that
Charlton owned some (such as the Iron Corporal and Yang)
while Ditko owned the copyright to others. I'll dig it
up when I get home tonight and post anything of
interest tomorrow. -- Joe


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I believe it was me who had asked about
Charlton's mysterious last days. I actually have some comics
from that dark period (Mysterious Traveler,<br>Iron
Corporal and Charlton Action Featuring Static), but wasn't
sure if Charlton had published anything else after
that. Thanks for the info!!<br><br>billad8199


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HELP! So far there are only two active writers on
the Earth-4 Starting Over club
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/earth4startingover</a> and neither of them are very familiar with the
characters from Charlton Comics.<br><br>On this Earth, the
year is about 1985 or 1986, just after the Crisis on
Infinite Earths, except instead of one single DCU, there
are five Earths left over, and one of them is
Earth-Four, the home of the Charlton Comics characters. Since
there aren't that many to go around, we also added the
characters from MLJ and the golden age characters from Fox
Features Publications.<br><br>However, the Charlton Comics
characters themselves have barely seen the light of day.
Some haven't appeared at all, while others people
don't know what to do with them because they're not
familiar with the pre-Crisis versions of them.<br><br>Most
of our members of this club and the other Five
Earths Project clubs have never written any fanfic
before joining, and this is done for enjoyment (see this
webpage for more info:
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/the5earths target=new>http://www.geocities.com/the5earths</a> ).<br><br>Please come by and feel free to jump
right in and tell some stories of the Charlton
characters you're familiar with. Don't be shy! Please e-mail
me with any questions you might
have:<br><br>the_time_trust_2000@yahoo.com<br><br>And now back to our regularly scheduled
programming...<br><br>Doc


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I signed up and have a notion to write up a Blue
Beetle tale (this is the Charlton Dan Garrett
superpowerful version from the 60's). I don't really have much
of a plot yet but I do know the theme. Give me a few
days to mull the idea and I might get it
started.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Which MLJ ? There's so many versions og the
Archie heroes...The SA versions ? Might the Charltons
include the ones who didn't make the leap to DC (
Vengance Squad , Michael Mauser , Killjoy - SSSIIIGGHH
!!!!!!!!! - Dr. Graves , E-Man , etc. ) ?


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I do believe all the Charlton characters are up for grabs. I know for certain that someone wrote a Michael Mauser story over there. A Dr.Graves ghostly tale might be fun.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Definitely. I'd love to see an E-Man story over there. And since Charlton published The Bionic Man and Bionic Woman, I'd say even they are available!


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Hello, friends! I was truly surprised to stumble
across this site, since Charlton is the most under-rated
company that ever published comics in my lifetime! I know
that often the quality of many titles was less than
what you could find with the other companies, but
Charlton had a unique feel that no other company had.<br>I
started reading Charlton in the late 50s--the humore
books (Atomic Mouse) and the Space books (when Capt.
Atom first appeared) although I was too young to be a
fan, really. Later, I bought what Charltons I could
find, though they were badly distributed in my area,
and the numbering system they used drove me crazy! (I
could NEVER be sure if there were previous issues of a
title or not!)<br>I read all the super hero, space and
mystery books, and most of the ghost books throughout the
60s, pluys quite a few of the war, western and humor
titles. However, for a long time my favorite stuff were
the three movie monster books--Gorgo, Reptilicus, and
Konga! To this very day, I'd love to be able to work on
similar comics myself. I love super heroes, but this
unique and interesting category fascinates me! I just
can't understand why a "Gorgo"-like comic isn't being
offered today!<br>This seems like an active club and I'm
really pleased to have found it. I hope to learn a lot
more about Charlton from you guys...and maybe I have
some info I could share too.


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Hey, welcome to the club! I was as surprised as<br>you were to find it. It's good to have a long-time<br>Charlton fan aboard. <br><br>-billad8199


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Welcome to the club, chas. I started this site
because I enjoyed the few Charlton comics I owned, and
was interested in learning more about them.
Sonofvulcan has been a most knowledgable and great co-founder
of this club, and he and the other active club
members are VERY very knowledgeable about these great old
Charlton comics.<br><br>Feel free to jump right into any
conversation that piques your interest, or begin your own
topics.<br><br>Doc


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Welcome to the Charlton Bullseye Smallpressfan
and Chasmithalpha. This tends to be a quiet little
hangout and anything you might like to add to the
proceedings would very much appreciated. We are always glad
to welcome fans of the little Derby company.
<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...Iron Corporal and ( especially ! Since I assume ol' Sturdy had NOTHING 2 Du w/it , EVER ? ) Yang ? Please DO!!!!!!!! give more details about these Snyder mags !


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From: waltsland_1999
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Subject: The Real Nick Nickie ?????
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Did Nicola Cuti ( that cutie !!!!! ) take any
characters with him , after the mighty ship at Derby ,
finally went down ????? V-Squad ? Mauser ? He MIGHT , I
assume , have been the flat-out " creator " of a few ,
though , E-Man's , apparently , 100% Staton's . I
DO!!!!! tend t'B sympathetic to " writers only " , ya
know...


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:38 -0800
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From: joekinski
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:38 -0800
Subject: Re: Steve Ditko on Charlton Copyrights
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OK - this is a run down from The Mocker tpb put
out by Snyder & Ditko. Inside it reprints the
Charlton House Ad which appeared in Amazing Heroes 82,
11/1/85. Per the indicia, Snyder and Ditko apply the
following copyrights to these people:<br><br>Steve Ditko -
Comics Action Kid, Static, Cosage, and an unnamed
spaceman, soldier, cowboy and magician (very generic
figures with stylized blank/happy faces on the bodies -
in a circle around the main characters)<br><br>Robin
Snyder - Mysterious Traveler, Dr. Haunt<br><br>Sword in
Stone - Impy, Mr. Bones, Winnie the Witch, Dr. Graves,
Mr. Dedd, Black Crow, Iron Corporal, Prof. Coffin,
Thane, Atomic Mouse, Timmy, Willie Schultz, Yang, L'il
Genius<br><br>I don't know how out-of-date/current these notices
are. This is the 2000 2nd edition of The Mocker, so I
would presume they are fairly current, although it
could also be a simple reprint of the original Mocker
trade (from 1989? - forgot to check that out).
<br><br>That's all I got for the moment. Maybe the next CBA will
clear up some of these mysteries. -- Joe


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...Thank you . Could you , possibly , post it ? <br>  Say , is that Jerry Ordway drawing of Nightshade dated " '85 " ? My aging eyes , etc....


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I would if I could, but I don't have a scanner. Modern technology ... who needs it. HAH! E-Mail me yer home address if you want though, and I'll hotfoot a copy out by regular mail to you. -- Joe


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Thanks for the welcome! This could be a lot of
fun (for me). Because I really enjoyed Charlton
through the 60s and 70s, and want to learn more about the
company. Did you know Steve Skeates, who wrote a lot of
Charlton stuff, has a fanzine he publishes even now? a
humor zine.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:49:44 -0800
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Thanks! I know I'll take you up on that offer to
join in! The Charlton comics were fascinating on many
levels, for example, because of the variety of material
they published over the years, and as another example,
for the great differences in quality of story and
art. this makes them worth discussing, don't you
think?


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From: lostonwallace
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Subject: Anyone know
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Hey--does anyone here know the name of the artist that drew SAD SACK?  I think the original artist only drew the covers on the comics.  Any info would be most appreciated.<br><br>Loston


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George Baker created SAD SACK, so I have the answer to that part.  Anyone know who drew the comic in the '70s?  They were probably reprints from earlier times.<br><br>Loston


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...I'm mentally blocked on the - Fred Rhoads
!!!!!!!!! - YES !!!!!!!!!!! - that's probably the artist
you're thinking of , kind of the Carl Barks/John Stanley
of Sad Sack . I believe he died rather recently . (
Actually , I'm pretty sure , BUT , ya know...) He did
one-panel cartoons for Comic Buyer's Guide during the
Nineties .


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Best I can do with my graphics programs it looks like "95". Probably about right; well before they messed with her in LAW.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:14:11 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Subject: Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds 
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Charlton hasn't shown up over at Oddball Comics
for a spell. Well the spell was broken a few days ago
when an issue of "Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds" from
1963 was featured. The subject at hand is the idea
that all the various mud monsters over the years in
various comics have more to do with bathroom habits that
I frankly find comfortable. The comic features a
fine Dick Giordano cover.<br><br>The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-02-23 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-02-23</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks Walt!<br><br>Loston


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Last night I attended a monthly cartoonists
meeting here in St. Paul, which has met for many years in
a local bar which now exists where Charlie
("peanuts") Schulz used to live, and where his father had the
famous barbershop. Among the subjects discussed were
Charlton comics, and one of the people mentioned that
Comic Book ARtist will be out very soon with the
Charlton overview of that company's work during the 70s.
This news was passed on because CBA contacted a local
artist who drew a number of ghost stories during the
70s, Rich Larson (who, with Steve Fastner, has
continued an association with comics by doing airbrushed
covers, card art, posters and so on). Also, the same
source who used to be associated with Jim Steranko's
"Mediascene" in the 70s passed on the word that the special
Warren issue is coming soon as well, for those of you
who liked Vampirella and Creepy.<br>This is all minor
news, I know, but I thought it would be of interest.


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Subject: Haunted #2 !!
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I found a wonderfully cheap,yet still in good
condition, copy of Haunted #2 yesterday. I know how much
Loston loves Impy and this one has the little character
all over. Great stories by Himes, Boyette, and Ditko.
The cover in fact I believe was the same art which
was destined to be used on the cover of the lamented
Ditko issue of Comic Marketplace which didn't get
published earlier this year.<br><br>Got it for a buck and
that makes up for that overpriced copy of Gunmaster I
bought a few months back. There is justice after
all.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks for the update. I am very much looking forward to that Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist. It should really be something special.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I have that issue too (and #1, as you might recall)!  So I take it you took Impy's cover dare and read "Doorway to Yesterday"?  I did!<br><br>Loston


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I had remembered reading the Heart od Dibiju as a
kid. When I got my copy of Haunted #2, seeing that
story again really creeped me out, because it had had
the same effect on me way back then. <br>I recently
picked up a bunch of E-mans, Prof. Coffin's, Mysterious
Suspense # 1 (Return of the Question),Midnight Tales #17,
Ghosts of Dr. Graves #9, and the first Ditko Blue
Beetle. Also I found Blue Beetle Vol. 3 # 52 from
1965--Dan Garret takes on MAGNO, THE MAN WHO SHAKES THE
WORLD! <br>Great stuff!<br> (All will be used as
reference material on the club picture that is currently
stalled due to Comic deadlines of KLYDE & MERIEM, but
will soon be undertaken!)<br><br>Loston<br><br>Loston


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Glad to hear the club pic is still a work in
progress. I'm sure we all appreciate the work you are doing
on this. As I have seen more of your work, my
excitement over this original piece has continued to
grow.<br><br>Magno Man! I love that cover. I saw it in a house ad
when I was a kid and only was able to get a copy for
the first time back in the 80's.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Indeed that Blue Beetle cover is
cool--As for the club picture, I definately am gon'na do
it. Always been the plan. KLYDE & MERIEM came along
and has dominated most of my time. I'm wearing a lot
of hats on this Cavewoman Oneshot. I designed the
Cover, the logos, the colors to the cover, created some
'new' dinos and the mysterious 'INVADER', did the
advertisement in Previews, am doing all the penciling chores
and all the sound effects, providing narrative
placement sheets for the letterer, doing all the scanning
of pages, FTPing all the files to Morgan Printing,
and pretty much overseeing the book--making sure this
project is is moving forward on all fronts.<br> So you
can see that I'm pretty busy. After I am done with
this, I hope to jump to the Charlton club picture. I
have some layout stuff done already. When I get
started, I expect it to take a few weeks to do. I don't
want to rush it. I will ink it and maybe even color it
myself.<br><br>Loston<br> PS: Dean, you may find it interesting to know
that John Trumbull (of Superteam HQ clubs and others)
and Matt Plog (Plog, of Comics to Screen club) are
each doing a pinup for the Klyde & Meriem book.


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...( Well , I assume , anyway !!!!! ) It's R.I.P.
for Fred Lasswell , who drew the C.-liscenced "
Barney Google " , etc. , syndie strip for nearly 60
years - and drew some Charlton covers for therir book ,
didn't he ? I may get that BG/SS fan ficcie done someday
yet ! Au , au , au , great balls 'a fire , I
bodacie...I chopchopchopchopcoppem' with all of my miiighht !


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I talked to a old and dear friend of mine who
also does comic strips and is also a golden age comic
book artist who knew fred lasswell hadnt talked to him
in ages FRan said but had great stuff to say about
fred.<br><br><br>Btw Fran Matera my friend did the art for the first
ever charlton comic book.


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I'm curious as to what was the first
Charlton<br>comic each member of this club read. For me it<br>was
an old, beat-up copy of Gunfighters #69<br>(1981)
which I bought back in 1991 or 92, maybe.<br>I still
have it, BTW...<br><br>-billad8199


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I'm not really sure, but I bet it was a Ghost
Manor, Haunted, Ghostly Haunts or something along that
line. I do remember some Fighting Army & Fighting
Marines comics also. Dunno. I know that I also saw Space
Adventures #9 (reprinting Captain Atom) too. Whatever it
was, it happened in the early to mid-'70s.<br> Wait--I
remember now! It was Speedbuggy #3!!<br><br>Loston


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In the mid-70s my parents first began to buy me
comics, probably right after I started kindergarten ..
and the earliest ones I remember are Charlton's Yang
(#4 I've recently discovered), Fightin Army (#91),
and Hercules (I beleive #3), an issue of Atlas'
Phoenix, and several Weird Tales. Can you believe it, it
really wasn't either of the Big 2 that got me reading
comics! (Although I did quickly graduate to Marvel's Star
Wars .. ahh the sins of youth!) -- Joe


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...I get R.C.Harvey's on-line column and he did a
special on Lasswell . Apparently he was a much beloved
old character ! He drew v. well , and
distinctively...I must confess to some doubt re: KFS's claims of "
BG/SS " being in " over 900 " newspapers , today ,
which I ran into some years back...MAYBE it's in a lot
of small-town/Southern newspapers ! The...AP?...obit
I used as my source<br>and Harvey's piece differed
a touch re: the question of how much Lasswell
contributed to the creationn of Snuffy and his world , with
Harvey aruging "...surely ( Laswee . ) did..." .


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I remember well my Grandmother giving me a
handfull of Charlton comics when I was a little fellow.
Where she got them, I'll never know as I was the only
one in the family who fooled with them. But there as
an issue of Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Judomaster,
and Thunderbolt. But the first Charlton comic I
remember getting myself was Hercules #4. The Sam Glanzman
artwork and the mythological story really did it for me.
I ended up getting all of the rest of that series
and have yet to find a copy of #3. I have the story
in reprint, but I have never seen a copy of it
otherwise.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean<br><br>P.S. I still have all of
these comics by the way. They are read to death and I
have since replaced them with better copies, but they
are touchstones to a sometimes more pleasant time.


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My first Charleton Comic was the Six Million
Dollar Man magazine. It was a BW book, and I think at
the time they were doing one for EMergency. I got
when I was a kid visiting my grandma in the hospital,
and my mother bought it for me to keep my occupied.
My first Charleton superhero comic was, well really
a set, cause I owned a comic book store in the 80's
and after reading Steve Ditko's Avenging World and
Mr. A, I sought out all the Question apperences. So,
I grabbed Blue Beelte 1-6 out of the back issue
bin, then grabbed all the Captain Atom, for all the
Blue Beetle apperances. I just loved the in house ad
for the superhero line (maybe I'll scan it and post
it) Charleton Superheroes: They're not half-bad! At a
time when Marvel was kicking ass and taking names, it
really struck me as funny someone would say
that...<br><br>my 2¢<br><br>Ray Villarosa<br>industrialstudios


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My mother never believed all that business about
comics and juvenile delenquiency from Fredric Wertham
(her favorites were Captain Marvel, followed by Wonder
Woman), so she bought us comics as soon as we could read
more than "see Spot run". My first Charlton comic was
probably an issue of Blue Beetle. I can remember getting
the reprint of the first few Captain Atom stories and
thinking "this is the guy who draws Spider-Man". <br>Who
drew those Dan Garrett issues of Blue Beetle, anyway?


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The artists on the Dan Garrett Blue Beetle were
Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallarico. I just love their
wide open style on these issues, but they are widely
held in disdain for the work at Charlton. My online
name comes from those great Son of Vulcan comics the
same team did at about the same time. <br><br>From
what I've gathered Tony Tallarico was a close friend
(maybe a family member) of Dick Giordano's and the two
often worked on projects together, though not
necessarily on the same individual books.<br><br>I'm right
now in the midst of writing up my first fan fiction
and it features the Dan Garrett Blue Beetle. This is
a character who has gotten way too little
attention. I think I have some interesting modern
reinterpretations of some of the series details. I have the plot in
my head for the most part, and I am noodling the
details right now. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charlton had the best house ads of any comic
company I have ever seen. The excitement I still feel
looking at some of those layouts is tremendous. The many
covers I would see only much later as an adult have
thrilled me for years. As is often the case the story
inside doesn't always live up to the great covers, but
so it goes.<br><br>The understatement of the
Giordano regime was a refreshing break from the Stan Lee
hucksterism (which I loved by the way in its own wacky way)
and the stolid style of DC. So many letters comment
on the very fact that Charlton would even
acknowledge the existence of competition leave alone
compliment them from time to time.<br><br>I would love to
have a scan of some of the house ads here. Feel free
to indulge yourself.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I can't even remember what my first Charlton
comic was because I read comics from the earliest age,
and any Charlton comic would have been just another
among many. I feel sure that the first one I read would
have been funny animal, though---I remember reading
Atomic Mouse and Timmy, the Timid Ghost, and how these
comics just looked different from the Walt Disney and
Warner Brothers stuff. There was also a comic I
especially liked in the middle of my dinosaur-mania days,
"Hunk", a humor book about a cave boy and his dinosaur. A
little later, about 1957-9, I went through a period when
I loved the racing comics that Charlton put out,
and I have a clear memory of trying to repeat the
stories with my toy racing cars on the living room
floor.<br>I must have read the supernatural books at about
that time too, because I remember being thrilled with
the first Captain Atom story...and I remember being
really puzzled because the ultra-condensed story had
very little explanation to it. A lot was left unsaid
in the early stories, such as what his powers really
were, and as a child that confused me and yet made the
character intriguing. I remember really hating The Blue
Beetle at that timne, as well. (Sorry, BB fans---I was
just old enough to be highly critical of the
art!).<br>I contniued to read most Charlton comics through
the sixties, though I missed a lot of the westerns
and humor books as my tastes narrowed to sf, mystery
and super hero stories. Also, in my areaq, the
distribution for Charlton was really poor. I would find most
of my Charlton comics in drugstroe rack when my
parents forced me to accompany them on "week end drives"
to small towns in the country. In addition, Charlton
changed the titles and numbers around so much that to
this day, I don't know how many issues of most titles
were actually printed. For example, the first time I
read a Gunmaster and Bulletboy comic, I thought there
had truly been 60 previous issues or so, since that
was the number on the cover! What a strange company
that place was!


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I remember Son of Vulcan, too. I read everything
from Captain Atom to Sarge Steel (detective and spy),
to Peacemaker, to The Fightin' 5, to Thunderbolt
(loved Pete Morisi's clean, easy style of art), to The
Shape. I don't have but a couple of Charltons in my
collection; most were long gone before I convinced my mother
that comics needed to be read then passed on. In the
last few years, I've concentrated on paperbacks and
such. Maybe I oughtta start looking around...


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First Charlton comic I ever read? Very hard to
say, but it was probably either one of their war title
or one of their sci-fi/mild horror comics. I was
probably aware of Charlton by 1956 or so, in that I could
spot a Charlton by the poor trimming of the interior
pages and the fact that the printing on the covers
didn't look quite professional. Early on, I considered
all Charltons bottom of the barrel comics and
wouldn't buy one unless there was absolutely nothing else
I hadn't read. The first Charlton character I
actually looked forward to reading was Gunmaster, and by
then I had developed a bit more respect for their
sci-fi/mild horror book, p because Steve Ditko was doing
quite a bit of work for Charlton by then (circa
'58/'59); I didn't know Ditko's name but his art didn't
look like anyone else's, and I found it
fascinating.<br><br>The way I remember it,<br>Jon


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...Mine was probably one of the George Wildman?-
edited " eeeeeh ! " interpretations of well-known
strip/animated characters from yhe early 70s ( Popeye ?
Flintsones , or other H/B ( Alas , not even something "
stupid H/B 70s " , like Speed Buggy or Funky Phantom or
whatnot...I'd like to tell you a " I saw a young-looking Byrne
arranging to put his copies of Wheelie And The Chopper
Bunch , but , dadgum it , That Would Not Be Right ! )
bread 'n' butter characters...I started again getting a
good-sized allowance when I was 10-11 . and my comic-buying
really went up then . I never bought an Action
Hero-period one off the stands . Can't say I really remember
seeing 'em , even ! - What was with those 'toon titles ,
anyway ? Apparently , Hanna-Barbera'd seen it fit to
leave Western/GK , which'd had purty much ALL major
animation properties for about a decade...( While KFS
presumably...saw C. as someone to publish their stuff cheap ,
after King's own mid-60s U.S. company had fizzled ?
)...But , obviously , H.B. , apparently , rather
regretted their decision !


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One of my Grandmothers always had a pile of
comics at her house so I wouldn't be bored while I was
there. A couple of them were those Reprinted Space
Adventures issues from the 70s with Captain Atom. The one I
distinctly remember was the one were Captain Atom took the
sick boy into space and cured him. This story was
actually touched upon in CA's DC series during the 80s.


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I have to admit that I hated the Charlton humor
line after I reached a certain (young) age. They just
didn't seem funny even tho I read the humor books of
other companies. I suppose everyone has compalints
about some aspects of Charlton's efforts. The Dell
books that later were published by Charl;ton like
Beetle Bailey, Popeye, and Blondie seemed funny when
Dell did them, but not when Charlton did them. Just me
I suppose.


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Going only by my memory, I think that was a story in the first Captain Atom comic, too. It was a long time ago but I recall that as one of the first CA stories I read.


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I have to admit that I hated the Charlton humor
line after I reached a certain (young) age. They just
didn't seem funny even tho I read the humor books of
other companies. I suppose everyone has compalints
about some aspects of Charlton's efforts. The Dell
books that later were published by Charl;ton like
Beetle Bailey, Popeye, and Blondie seemed funny when
Dell did them, but not when Charlton did them. Just me
I suppose.


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I loved George Wildman's Popeye! I still snag every issue of that I happen on. The books were zany and downright fun! Much underrated in the great scheme of things.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I didn't know DC had followed that story up. I
may have to do a little search for it. That story
stands out in my memory too. There is something about
the way Ditko drew the sheer pleasure on the boy's
face that radiates off the page (as much as the
printing will allow anyway).<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Mine was an issue of EMERGENCY! I think John Byrne was the artist too, come to think of it. It was a hand-me-down from my older brother...


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I liked the Hercules series as well, and have
picked up each issue I've found so far...<br><br>Another
good comic was Thane of Bagarth, with wonderful art by
Jim Aparo, one of the unsung heroes of comic-book
art...


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I can't wait to see your story on the Silver Age
Dan Garrett, Dean.<br><br>I've had a pet theory that
the Silver Age redhead Dan Garrett, the one who was
the Archaeology Professor, was actually the grown-up
Sparkington J. Northrup, short-lived sidekick to the original
Blue Beetle (also named Dan Garrett, who was a cop and
had black/brown hair), and changed his name in honor
of his mentor. (Wouldn't you if your parents had
named you "Sparkington"?!?) Sparky was shown to have
blonde-hair, but could easily have turned strawberry-blonde
like the Dan Garrett of the Silver Age showed it to
have.<br><br>BTW, I've seen the Americomics story which states that
the Golden Age Dan Garrett and the Silver Age Dan
Garrett were the same person, but I don't buy that -- I
also don't buy that he was turned into the Blue Beetle
by cosmic Jack Kirby-esque gods, either. That's one
retcon I'd just as soon ignore completely...<br><br>Doc


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Yeah, what DC did was made it part of Cap's fake
history. all the Charlton books were "fictitious"
background stories to hide the "fact" that Cap was a
murderer. <br>I quit reading the DC version before they
solved that mystery. Did they ever prove Cap II
innocent?


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...In that case , are you aware that ( As I've
pointed out here B4 , ) Harvry's " POPEYE " , from the
early/mid 90s , REPRINTED Charlton P. material...as did
many other Harvey 'toon titles of the period , & not
jus' KFS-derived ones ?!?!!


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...I have several ( Not jus' P. , either ! )...One " POP. " even has a " Duck Amuck "-esque storr-ee wherin Popeye talks to cartoonist , " George " !


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...Hey , re Rhoads , did you ever see his " G . I . JUNIORS " ? I remember it fondly . Not ( I believe , ) published , UNDER that title , and , " not a S.S. spinoff...but an INCREDIBLE SIMULATION . "


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Subject: Atomic Mouse.......Makes It !!!!!!!
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Shandra has announce a 48-pg. b&w ( Jus' like LAST KISS . ) " ATOMIC MOUSE " , w/both new & reprints !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's in PREVIEWS .


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Subject: " CA " Millie. ???????
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Okay , once and for all , did DC issue a Captain Atom Millenium Edition ???????


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Don't you really hate it when some fanboy comics
creator thinks it would be a good idea to trash an older
character just because he has no feeling for it? I'm
reminded of the story when Dc brought back Plastic Man as
a drunken out-of-work tragic figure, not to mention
a number of others. This has always bugged me---it
goes beyond isrespect for the characters into a snide
glee at destroying someone else's creative work.


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Does anyone have a large number of the Canadian
ACG comics reprinting some of the Charlton stories?
These have appeared for about 4 years. Some of the
titles also have stories from Forbidden Worlds and other
60s ACG comics, though it seems these days they are
reprinting Dick Tracy and Star Hawks strips. Anyway, I just
wanted to know if anyone would want to pool info to
create a checklist of the Charlton and other reprints
that have appeared so far.


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Lord knows they should have, but to my knowledge
they did not Walter. <br><br>There is a Captain Atom
reprint upcoming in a Brave & Bold 100-page Spectacular
reprint later this spring. I think it is a reprint of
issue #85 of the series featuring a story teaming Cap
with Nightshade.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Simple arrogance! It has to do with thinking
you're smarter than those "hacks" that were working in
comics before. We see it time and time again (and I have
been guilty of it in my own profession I'm afraid)
where the youngsters barge in all full of themselves
and start changing stuff to make it "better". They
eventually learn (if they last long enough) that stuff is
that way for a reason. I'm not saying change isn't
good, but this is generally a baby & bath water
situation when it happens.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I have a few, but the high price combined with
the very uneven quality of the reprints has kept me
away from most of them. I go for certain characters
who are of a special interest to me.<br><br>Right off
hand I know that I have the Charlton adaptation of
"Destination Moon" and the collected stories of PAM's "Lobo".
I know I have a couple of others, but they don't
leap to mind.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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The second of the Comic Book Artist issues on
Charlton is now available online (or at least a preview
is). The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/12.html target=new>http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/12.html</a><br><br>Available is a look at the great Joe Staton cover in full
color and interviews with Staton, John Byrne, and Roger
Stern.<br><br>This wonderful prozine is available on the stands this
coming week according to at least one source I found.
<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Which issue of the DC series did this story appear in?<br><br>~Jim


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...I've had some ( Lost a lot , unfortunately ! )
A lot of the non-Charlton titles have had C.-tales
as back-ups...I've had Terry & The Pirates ,
newspaper strip Shadow , & 80s Dick Tracy ACG titles that
have C. material as back-ups ! I even wrote on this a
lil' WAAAYYYY back in the posts ! Is ACG in business
now ? CBG doesn't seem to list then , either as "
Coming " , or a " Shipped " , though PREVIEWS - still !
- lists 'em !


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...I'm the same person as Waltsland_1999 ( NO ,
I'M NOT !
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) , if you are ACTUALLY
going 2B so NURDISH/FANBOY-ESQUE as to GO LOOKING !
Heavens !


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Dean,<br><br>Since you were so interested in Sue
and Sally Smith, the Flying Charlton Nurses, I
managed to run down a link on them, a new one which
explains why I've been seeing some nurse scans the last
few days. Check out this
URL:<br><br><a href=http://www.netwrx1.net/CherryAmes/comics.html target=new>http://www.netwrx1.net/CherryAmes/comics.html</a><br><br>There were more comics with nurses than I ever would
have suspected, including more than a couple from
Charlton.<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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...Re: Charlton's KFS titles , I've kept meaning
2 post that , 'bout 1995 , A-Plus ( not named ACG
yet , ) put out a " HAGAR THE HORRIBLE " , comic book
, done for , but never published by , C. , by Dik
Browne's assistant , in th' 7't's . 'Features 22-ish pages
of ( Not gags . ) <br>3-ish stories , +
Hagar-centric text & puzzle pages , I've meant to describe it
for " the longest time "...And , I finally have
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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...I meant that there were 2/3 " long "
stories...And , incide.-like , does anyone know Overstreets
mailing , or ( preferably , ) E-address for submitting
corrct./additions like this , the editorial address ? The paper
copy I have only seems 2 list orderin' #s/'dress .


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Thanks for the input. I've avoided most of the
strip reprints of terry, Tracy, Green Berets, etc.,
because I have to cut spending somewhere and have much of
that material already, so I didn't know about the back
ups. I hope that they haven't gone out of business; a
guy working with the wolverton family, hoping to do a
wolverton bio, said that the new ACG is supposed to publish
all of wolverton's work over time (at last!) and I
know they've published a couple issues already. I'd
rather they didn't go under til after completing this
project!<br>I BELIEVE they are still publishing because Star
Hawks and Tracy seem to be appearing within the last
month or so. I know, as someone posted, the quality
isn't the best, but if it's the only way I can get
copies of The Shadow strip, Charlie Chan, and
Charlton/ACG reprints, I'll take 'em. I wish they'd reprint
50s Charlton stuff--the books that are hard to find
and way over-priced!<br>Meanwhile, I'm working on
compiling a Charlton "Checklist" which will have two parts,
an alphabetical listing of all the Charlton titles I
can find out about with issue numbers and dates, and
a chronological "timeline" of charlton books (which
seems to be the ONLY way to ever figure out what the
heck they published when!). When done, I hope to have
a guide for people to put their issues in context
with other Charlton issues, and easily show what
people could get to complete their collections. I'll
tell you that I don't think anyone will ever really
make sense of the company's publishing history! Wish
me luck!


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Well, i don't know if I'd call Cary Bates a youngster, even back then. Even though I didn't really like Captain Atom's new origin, at least they did find a way to tie the old stories into continuity.


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I didn't mind the new version of Cap; I just
considered him a totally different character with the same
name as the Charlton version. It's odd that they
pretty much kept The Blue Beetle II and Question the
same, but completely re-vamped Cap. Sure, the science
in the stories was iffy at best, but who cares? I
did mind the demotion of the Charlton stories to
fiction, and would have been happier if they had just
ignored them. After all, that's what they did in the
50s-60s with the Golden Age Flash, Green Lantern,
Hawkman, and Atom.<br>Somewere I may still have an issue
of Worlds Finest with a team-up between Superman,
Firestorm, and the Charlton Captain Atom.


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Waltsland, you remind me of POGO for some reason...


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...To get picky-picky-picky here , aren't you
referring to th' circa-'70/'71 Brave And The Bold PlasBat
story , which I guesswas writ. by Bob Haney . himself
hardly a member of the " fan " gen. of creators...as
even Cary Bates is countable as !!!!! ( Of course ,
you din' SAY that story was by a fan-back. )


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Thanks for scanning in this classic Action Heroes
ad for the Club Picture Doc. It looks great! I would
love to see this one stay up a long, long time. This
is one of my favorite heroic images.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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If you mean my comment, W., I was just saying
that I hate it when current creators take someone
else's character and use it in a disrespectful,
destructive way, and that B&B story was one example that came
to mind. Back then, of course, Haney WAS a
"youngster" compared to the Golden Age artists and writers (I
think--but I'm no expert on Haney) and obviously had little
affection for the character, don't you think? But there are
a lot of other examples, like the series a couple
years back which took a perfectly good character like
Dell's "Turok" and gave him machine guns to make him
"Dinosaur Hunter". I'm not even real "heated up" about it,
I'm just saying it's a shame that they want to use a
good character in a poor manner that entertains
neither old readers not newer readers. Better to just let
the character lay in the past, I think. It would be
like trying to make Little Orphan Annie a punk rocker,
or Captain America a skinhead, or something. It just
bugs me because I think I know the psychology behind
it, and the intention is not admirable.


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Charlton made another appearance at Scott Shaw's
Oddball Comics last week. This time the comic was an
oddity from 1971, "Hee Haw". Yep! The TV show of the
same name. The issue was #6. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-03-08 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-03-08</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I tend to cut Haney some slack on these kinds of
continuity miscues, because back then such things weren't so
important to everyone as they have become. In fact being a
new fan to DC at the height of Haney's writing I
rarely picked up on the continuity errors.<br><br>Less
forgivable are mistakes made in the current market where
continuity has become a well understood staple of the comics
experience.<br>While I personally had little problem with the Turok
changes I take your point perfectly that often such
changes aren't made consisitent with the intent of the
original characterizations.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Well, I hope the new CBA comes next week .. I got
off my duff to subscribe about a month ago, we'll
have to see how their subscription service works. Does
anyone else here subscribe to it? They were prompt on
some back issues I ordered, so I have high hopes for
their subscription department as well...


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I put the full-size pic (well, 500 pixels wide, anyways) in one of Jon's photo albums.<br><br>Doc


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Some characters are not meant to be updated. DC
is supposed to have done that with some of their
'50s SF characters, like Space Cabbie and Star
Hawkins. I never saw it, and haven't heard about it since.
It's as was said: they didn't attract old readers,
didn't attract new readers, and the update failed. This
gives those who never saw the original characters the
idea that they were trash, and not worth reading
anyway. A lot of the original run of Captain Atom stories
were fantasy. Okay, the hero could shoot atomic
fireballs, but don't you think that Dr. Strange could do
that if he REALLY wanted to? The story about Cap and
the kid involved flying unprotectd through space,
multiple light years away, and bathing in the light of a
star with healing properities. Offhand, I'd say the
science in the story took second place to the story
itself (FTL travel is SUPPOSED to be scientifically
impossible, but most SF writers will allow warp drive for the
sake of a story).<br>One other thing I remember about
DC's recap was that they criticised the stories for
having flaws in the logic of each tale. For Early Silver
Age pseudo-science, they were good STORIES. I mean,
we are dealing with a genre were bouncing bullets
off your chest or firing energy beans from your hands
or eyes are commonplace.


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Yeah--I subscribe too it, and I also help stuff
the envelopes full of magazines to be sent out. I
don't help with CBA though--there's so many
subscribers, that that is done at a seperate warehouse. 6
other guys,and my wife and I, get together at John
Morrow's house and stuff, label, and get the mailbags
ready to be sent. <br> Sometimes the books will be
late. This is an unfortunate thing, but please
understand that the majority of the TwoMorrow's publications
are assembled by just a hand full of people.
Twomorrows isn't a big company mag publisher like Wizard or
others, most of it is assembled at his house, and many
people, like myself, are volunteers. I get paid in pizza
and good conversation. I can promise you this,
TwoMorrow's mags will always have REAL content and great
artwork! The Kirby Collector (running late, but due out
soon) will be treasury size! <br><br>Loston


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Hey, Loston - thanks for the info. I am now
intensely jealous of you .. getting to be firsthand in CBAs
assembly and distribution. But I suppose I'd have to give
up West Coast living for that. :) HAH :) I'm just
ecstatic to think it will be in my hot little hands. Now
if only John Morrow could get ahold of that Ditko
Charlton Horror piece that was supposed to run in the
perhaps never to be seen Comic Book Marketplace .. all
would be perfect. Perfect perfect perfect! -- Joe


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This is mostly for Don, but whomever else is
interested as well. When I was at my comic store this
weekend .. they have three copies of the Magnus CBM#83. I
won't make it in on Wednesday I don't think .. probably
not until Saturday, but if anyone wants one, drop me
a line and let me know and I'll pick it on up. --
Joe


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...Me !!!!!!!!!


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I guess you'd really be jealous if I told you
that I get all the TwoMorrow magazines and specials
for free, eh? It's true. Whenever possible though, I
try to buy a few from the local stores, because
TwoMorrows publishing needs more sales. Due to the
infrequency and small size of the company, not all that many
books get printed. Every copy you guys buy helps to
keep the following months books make it to the
shelves! If you read Kirby Collector, Comic Book Artist,
Alter Ego, Comicology, or any TwoMorrow publication,
please turn a friend or two on to them. If circulation
of the mags increase, you can be guaranteed more
quality, faster turnaround time, and better books. More $$
means more staff & more books!<br><br>Loston


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I noticed the latest issue of CBA wasn't on my
dealer's list of available magazines this week. I don't
get especially irritated when small publications like
the stuff from Twomorrows is late as I know they live
pretty close to the bone. But it's when the big guys
like Marvel can't keep a schedule that I start to get
torqued off. Being a product of the 70's I have had a
full dose of the "Dreaded Deadline Doom". <br><br>Stay
on top of things for us Loston and keep fighting the
good fight.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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<a href=http://www.acc.umu.se/~alpha/byrne/uploads/ target=new>http://www.acc.umu.se/~alpha/byrne/uploads/</a><br><br>Byrne did these for a 3-d website, later to be
animated, I believe. For the hell of it, not for any sort
of film in the works. <br>Thought some of you would
like to see it.<br><br>Loston


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I still wonder which DC issue this follow-up story appeared in.<br><br>~Jim


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I'd like to get one too.  Write me at yow3@hotmail.com for my address and with how much money you'll need total.<br><br>thanks,<br>Jim


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I wish I could help. But I don't have the issue and my Overstreet doesn't indicate anything special either. Sorry.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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It was actually in an issue of SECRET ORIGINS,
not the regular series. It was a number around the
mid-30s or so, and his origin was paired in the comic
with other members of the Justice League
International, such as Rocket Red.


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That's great! I have that comic around somewhere. I didn't remember this element though. Thanks for the memory nudge Doc.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: PAM Artist of the Week !
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Pete Morisi is the Artist of the Week at the Gold/Silver Age Message Board. Take a peek.<br><br>The address is:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicboards.com/gsmb/ target=new>http://www.comicboards.com/gsmb/</a><br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks Doc, I had forgotten about this one too.  At least I have it and won't have to add yet another comic to my ever-expanding want list.<br><br>~Jim


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Just read it again. Man what a crock. I had
apparently forgotten just how much of Charlton's history had
been wiped clean with that story. The Alan Weiss
artwork was great, but the net result was a character far
less interesting than he might otherwise have
been.<br><br>Ah well!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Yeah, unfortunately, that story created the exact
OPPOSITE effect it was intended to have. In fact, it
caused the reader to realize just how much charm and
interest had been LOST in this grimmer, grittier, more
so-called "realistic" approach of the Post-Crisis era. I'd
picked up reprints of those early Captain Atom stories,
and had read them before the new Captain Atom series
came out, and found them utterly charming and
interesting. Just as I found the early Legion of Super-Heroes
stories by Edmond Hamilton, Otto Binder, and Jerry
Siegel, with art by John Forte to be, in a way no modern
Legion has ever managed to pull off (and I fear they
never will again).<br><br>I know they intended this
story to be a nod to the past era, but ultimately it
showed just how GRIM and CYNICAL modern comics had
become in contrast to that earlier period.


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I rest my case re: newer people revamping older concepts.


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I've recently read that the Gold Key Comics
artist "Jesse Santos" illustrated for Charlton in 1974
and 1975. In the "Who's Who in Comics" book, it lists
him illustrating Mystery titles for Charlton. Does
anybody know what specific issues that he done? Also at
Don Glut's website www.donaldfglut.com he lists that
he wrote for several "Ghosts" titles in which he
lists. But he does not list the issues. Does anybody
know which issues he wrote for? Does anybody have any
issues of any Charlton comics that list Jesse Santos or
Don Glut as being the artist or writer? Any help
would be appreciated. Thanks-


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I frankly don't know. Given the timeframe of the
mid-70's there is a better than average chance that the
work will be credited so getting the data should be
possible, at least for the artist. Writers are always a bit
more difficult to track down. <br><br>Have you tried
the Grand Comics Database?<br><br>Good luck!<br>Dean


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Funny you should ask right now! I don't have
specific answers to your questions---but just five days
ago I bought some late Charltons for a buck a piece
and one story was illustrated by an artist signing
his name "A. Alias" (!), and I was thinking it looked
just like Santos! Who I never knew drew for Charlton,
tho if he did I would have seen the stories but it
never made an impact. I loved Santos' work with Dagar,
Tragg, etc.<br>Sorry I can't be more help though.


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In my efforts to come up with a definitive
checklist of Charlton comics, I have found that there were
over 250 individual titles! However--many of those
titles apeared only once or twice, most for only a few
issues! What a mess, though, in that Charlton had the
weirdest numbering and titling system ever. I'm being
generous in implying they had any system at all
anyway!<br>In an attempt to clarify things even further, if
only for myself, I'm compiling a chronological list of
titles as they appeared and disappeared. You know what?
Even THAT doesn't seem to be much help!<br>Two
observations that might be interesting here: <br>1) Charlton
went through a huge spurt in the number of titles in
1955, probably in part due to the purchase of Fawcett
and other companies' properties following the
DC-Fawcett lawsuit and the intro of the comics code (forcing
many publishers to quit and opening up newstands to
"code-approved" comics).<br>2) (And this was new to me) Charlton
actually had a sort of a boomlet in the 1983-85 period,
reprinting quite a few of their comics from the 60s. I
didn't know this at the time (or rather, I simply didn't
see it) becuase I was personally going through
difficult days and wasn't paying much attention to comics.
Also, Charlton was never a favorite among comic store
owners and by 1980, in my area, the regular racks had
disappeared from the Mom and Pop stores and comics were
mostly available at comic book stores. That
is---Charlton comics would be found mostly by dedicated
searches and not usually by casual visits to comics
shops.<br>Anyway, my project marches on...and finally I'm beginning
to see some patterns emerge after thirty years of
wondering how I could miss 80 issues of Gunmaster!


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I think trying to make sense of the Charlton
publishing legacy is like trying to come to terms with the
minds of a long lost tribe of cavemen. They just don't
think like we do and attempting to understand creates
all kinds of confusion. The old rules just don't
apply.<br><br>If there ever was a company with no sense of its own
history or place in the larger scheme of things, it was
Charlton. They seem to exist purely in the moment. Each
month was a virtual new beginning. Patterns! We don't
need no steenking patterns!<br><br>Kaji Dha! (and Good
Luck!)<br>Dean


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Probably the worst thing will be trying to figure
out which books continued the numbering of a previous
title. It won't happen, but can you imagine a collecor
50 years from now trying to find Incredible Hulk
#7-#101, and trying to figure out how they printed 96
issues in five years ("The Incredible Hulk; Now Twice A
Month!"). Or imagine trying to find Whiz Comics #1 to
complete your collection. The history of these things are
documented, however.<br>Charlton's system probably did make
sense to them. I've wondered, though: what if an title
was discontinued with issue 33, but issues 34 and 35
were already "in the works". Then, a replacement title
is issued to take advantage of the mailing permit,
and, although it takes the place of issue 34, instead
it is number 36.<br><br>I know I saw Gunmaster, but
I just can't remember him.


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"2) (And this was new to me) Charlton actually
had a sort of a boomlet in the 1983-85 period,
reprinting quite a few of their comics from the 60s."
<br><br>This "boomlet" that you refer to above was the Modern
Comics issues. I don't believe these were even published
by Charlton. As I remember it, they were kind of
like the Whitman reprints that came out at about the
same time in that they were also distributed in "3
packs".<br><br>~Jim


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Thanks "Sonofvulcan" and "Chasmithalpha" for your
<br>replies. Would you happen to know the issue and # of the "
A. Alias " title? It is listed in Jerry Bails' book
that he illustrated some comics (ones that were not
for Gold Key ) under the pen name of "Jesse" without
his last name. It is listed that he did indeed work
for Charlton in 1974-1975.<br>I was hoping somebody
might have run across a title or two that I could track
down. He was the storyboard artist on the "Phantom
2040" animated series. I didn't know that until
recently. Anyways, if anyone knows of any issue that lists
Santos as artist or Don Glut as writer , please list it!
Thanks-


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Hey, Chas - You may try and pick up the Charlton
Spotlight that came out a few months ago .. in it there was
a complete alphabetical listing of all Charlton
titles. It was a work in progress, and I don't remember
whther it gave you the antecedent and descendants of any
given title, but it did give the length of all given
runs. I don't have the issue in front of me or I'd give
you the address. It was out of Texas and was a Pat
Boyette issue. Pretty cool mag all in all. -- Joe


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Hey, Waltsland! I picked up the Comic Book
Marketplace 83s last night. Give me an e-mail jingle (in my
profile) to get ahold of you for a copy. If anyone else
wants one (this is the Magnus/Twilight Zone/Plastic Man
issue), let me know .. I have one more left. -- Joe


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This "boomlet" that you refer to above was the
Modern Comics issues. <br>--------------<br>Charlton was
also reprinting some of its titles as well ... notable
Tales of the Mysterious Traveler. Re-colored no less in
those bright bright colors. But on the whole, I would
agree that the time frame 83-85 is Modern Reprints. The
Mysterious Traveler is from 85, along with some of the other
relaunches .. i.e. Charlton Action starring Static. -- Joe


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Also, I have some issues of THANE OF BAGARTH which were reprints published by Charlton in 1985.


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...While there may very well have been pre-bagged
Modern-logo reprinte in '83-'85 , there WERE single copy
Charltons during this period , even as late as ( Cover date
, anyway . ) '86 , MAYBE even '87 . I never saw any
Moderns , but ( As I've written here B4 ! ) I DID see
Charltons around '86-ish...Thet may very well have all been
reprints ( Some of the Ditkos , apparently , being
color-added reprints of his indie stuff ! ) , and , I really
HAVE chatted this up all pyrty recently...But , I
recently found out that C. , frinstance , made a stab at
some new Iron Corporal issues about this period !


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...Will do soon !!!!!


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Subject: Re: Charlton: The Final Gasp Years !!!!!
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...Actually , this month-old message ( plus some others commenting on/replying to it , though they don' seem 2B direct replys to me . ) sez it more first-handlike . Sez me !!!!!!!!!


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To add to the mystery, some titles arbitrarily
missed a number in the middle of a run, a couple had
duplicated numbers, one title actually had an earlier number
printed much later than a later number...it is truly
madness.<br>I don't have my notes right here, but Gunmaster
became Judomaster. Gunmaster and Bulletboy was a
straight (although "costumed") western comic. He wore a
white suit and mask...which is about all I can
remember.


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Nope. The Modern reprints (which I am also trying
to list) were reprints of entire individual issues
in the 1977-78 period. This was obviously a simple
marketing opportunity to place these comics in major stores
like Wal Mart, I believe. Although--like much else
about Charlton, it's hard for an outsider NOW to figure
out exactly what Charlton was thinking THEN! In the
early eighties, the reprints have no Modern logo so I
assume it was a last gasp attempt to enter the market
again, perhaps to take advantage of the newly
established direct market system selling to comics
stores.<br>By the way, the Modern comics reprints seem to have
had no reason in the selection process; they seem to
just have put out random titles and issues with no
plan in mind to select the best stories, key issues,
or major titles. As always with Charlton, you end up
muttering "go figure".<br>Of course, that's why we love
this frustrating, bewildering, endlessly confusing
little company, ain't it?


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Willco, roger and you betcha. I'll dig it out for you and post what I can in a day or two.


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Thanks! I didn't know it was available!
(Great--more to search for!!) By the way, ever see the black
and white book of Ditko/Joe Gill Konga stories titled
"The Lonely One"? I just found a copy a few months
ago. As I recall, it was printed in the mid-90s (I
don't have it right here). It was a pretty nice
book...as are the Steve Ditko "64 Page Packages" that seem
to be coming out from time to time. So many comics,
so little time!


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Someone also reprinted some Gorgo stories a couple of years back. Beautiful Steve Ditko art in black and white... Probably done around the same time as the Konga reprint (but I missed that one).


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Looking to buy or trade for charlton bullseye
magazine issues from approx. 1975 ( not to be confused
with charlton bullseye colour comics series ). Failing
that, interested in photo copies . Please send all
responses to CHROMIUMFOIL@hotmail.com <br>Thanks and have a
nice day people


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From: sonofvulcan
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Subject: Comic Book Artist -Charlton Pt.2!
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The latest issue of Comic Book Artist by
Twomorrows Publications is on the stands and as promised it
features a whopping batch of Charlton features. The focus
is on the 70's this time with lots of other things
thrown in. The material on E-Man is tremendous. A brand
new two-page E-Man story featuring the lovely Nova.
If you think you knew all about Charlton's superhero
offerings you don't. There are character designs for a hero
invented by Nick Cuti and designed by Don Newton which
never got to print. Well worth taking a peek.<br><br>As
is usual with these great issues I have only just
begun to plumb its depths. More as I find
it.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I have to second Dean's recommendation. All I did
last night was go through the issue and admire the
art. Plan on spending quality time at work not working
today .. reading about Charlton instead. And for my
bet, even though some of the illos are duplicated ..
the Tom Sutton art just looks awesome! I love those
Ghostly Haunts covers (38 & 41) -- Joe


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I'm still in the process of reading the issue,
but I absolutely love hearing about Charlton's past!
Joe Staton's stuff is incredible--he hasn't lost a
step! Don Newton article, I'm saving for last--Newton
is one of my all time favorites.<br> I'm pleased to
see that there is going to be a Warren Comics special
coming out from TwoMorrow's this summer (see ad on page
109)! <br> Should be getting together with John Morrow
next week to help stuff Kirby Collector subscription
envelopes with the new treasure-sized mags--will ask about
the possibilities for a Charlton ROUND 3
issue.<br><br>Take care,<br><br>Loston<br>PS: Staton's cover has
given me some ideas for the club picture! Can't wait to
officially start it!


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I'm hopeful they will combine the two Charlton
issues (with the addition of some new stuff of course)
and come out with a nice squareback volume for my
bookshelf. I would buy that in a split second.<br><br>Now I
am anxious to see the Atlas-Seaboard and Tower stuff
they have. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I'll mention that to John, Dean--I too would love a squareback edition of the charlton stuff!  I'll let you know his reply.<br><br>Loston


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From: sonofvulcan
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Subject: Timmy the Timid Ghost #45?
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I found an irresistable bit of Charlton material
the other day. I'm not sure what the number of the
comic is, but the indicia says "45" while the sticker
on the sleeve says "5" but this issue of Jon
D'Agostino's "Timmy the Timid Ghost" fairly jumped at me. It
features the title character (a Casper wannabe if there
ever was one) sitting under a tree reading a comic and
getting frightened. Now it's not just any comic, it's an
issue of "Ghostly Tales" and appears to be a small
scale reproduction of an actual cover of that magazine.
I don't have the particular issue and the
reproduction is too small for me to make out a number but it's
a beauty. I assume it is an issue not too far
removed in time from this 1966 comic.<br><br>Does anyone
know the details on this oddity? I would love to know.
I haven't yet gotten around to reading the actual
comic but I will soon. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks a bunch Loston. I really appreciate it. And by all means communicate to him how much I love his publications. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Sure will Dean, but you might be better served by emailing him yourself at: twomorrow@aol.com<br>  I'm sure he'd love to hear from appreciative fans.<br><br>Loston


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From: sonofvulcan
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Glad to have you here DoctorSpekor. Don't hesitate to participate and by all means share with us your favorite Charlton moments and comics.<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:41:34 -0800
Subject: Information , Please !!!!!!!
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...Can anybody give me (1) - The info on that
Charlton fanzine from - Texas? - where , how much - I seem
2 recall the option of sending a money order/check
for a 2-3 issue subscription being mentioned , which
I'd prefer ( I'm sure it's good ! )...aaaannd (2) -
Though I know I've asked this prev.-like day/date/age/"
obit "-type details re Pat Boyette's demise , I want
to send it elsewhere . Speaking of el Grim Reaper ,
Bill Hanna's been mentioned elsewhere - And ,
considering what his company ended up thinking of the product
Charlton produced for them , well.........! ( I'd still
like 2 know the details 'hind them leaving Western/GK
- which'd had a lock on , basically , ALL major
ani-/toon properties for 10?-ish years - for " our "
company , in the late 60s , in the first place .
But...!?!?!?!?! )


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The info I read in TCJ stated Boyette died on 14th January 2000, he was 77.<br><br>Steve.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:42:44 -0800
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:42:44 -0800
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I'm just slow! Sorry.<br>This Charlton comic I
recently was able to find in a back issue box which has
art I believe (strongly) was by Jesse Santos is as
follows: Space War, Vol 2 #29 May 1978. The story is
titled "The Underground War" and could very well have
been written by don Glut, by the way---it is a future
mood piece quite unlike anythinjg Joe Gill would have
written. The art is signed "a. alias" and describes a
future after WWIII when underground dwellers are hunted
by soldiers, and ends with the upper dwellers making
peace with the underground dwellers.<br>FYI: The cover
illustrates a story by Ditko called "The Enchanted Planet"
(cover art also by Ditko) and appears to date from c.
1960, his best period in my opinion. The cover and
story are very nice indeed. The final story ("The
Deadly Cargo of Spaceship 90) also appears to be from
the same period or slightly earlier, or perhaps
merely has a different inker than Ditko himself.<br>I
hope this is of interest. Meanwhile, at a recent book
store sale I got a dozen or so further issues from
about the same time (1978-84) for only 50 cents each!
(Just had to tell someone). I"ll keep an eye open for
any art/writer surprises I can discover. Perhaps I'll
try to scan some of my favorite art from Charlton and
post here.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:28:38 -0800
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It's called "Charlton Spotlight" and it's from
Argo press. The address is:<br><br>Argo
Press<br>P.O.Box 4201<br>Austin, TX<br>78765-4201<br><br>The cover
price is $6.95. The guy behind it is Michael
Ambrose.<br><br>The issue is dedicated to the late Pat Boyette but
there is also a Charlton Checklist which is very handy.
Seems someone here was compiling one and this should be
a big help.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks a bunch. I may have that issue of Space
War you describe. I'll have to dig it out and see for
myself. <br><br>50 cents! Great going. I can sure
appreciate the thrill of finding these little hidden gems so
cheap.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Charlton Fanzines/Pseudonyms/Thanks-
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Many thanks for the title and issue number of the
possible Jesse Santos Charlton comic! I look forward to
tracking it down. <br><br>I want to say that I bought a
copy of the new "Charlton Spotlight" fanzine. I was
very pleased with it! I thought that Michael Ambrose
did a excellent job in producing it. Thank you Mr.
Ambrose!<br><br>Speaking of Charlton fanzines, can anybody tell me about
the 1960's-1970's (?) Charlton comics fanzine called
"Charlton Portfolio"? I was wondering how many issues of it
exist and maybe some details about it. According to the
Overstreet price guide, one issue of it has a unreleased
"Blue Beetle" Ditko story? <br><br>I also want to pass
along some information that might be helpful to
somebody. Tony Talarico illustrated "Curse of the Vampire"
for "Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves" issue #44, under the
pseudonym of "Tony Williamsune". He also used this pen name
for several stories he illustrated for various Warren
Publications, such as , "Vampirella" and "Creepy". He also uses
these pen names as well, "Alfred Payne" and "Ibis". In
"Haunted" #19, the story called "The Unholy" was
illustrated by Peter A. Morisi under the pen name of "PAM". I
have a few others wrote down somewhere if anybody is
interested in this sort of stuff-


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Tony Tallarico is becoming one of my favorites
Doctor Spektor. Thanks for the tip on the pseudonyms.
<br><br>The "Charlton Bullseye" is a fine little publication.
It features scuds of fine poster art (much of which
has been reprinted in the two Twomorrows Charlton
issues) and some good articles on the state of Charlton
and its history. The cover is by Don Newton and it
too is reproduced in the current Comic Book
Artist.<br><br>I would have to look to be sure, but I think you
are right that there is a Blue Beetle story in there
also.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:00:26 -0800
Subject: Gunmaster & Bullet Boy?
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I found an embarrassment of riches in my
collection yesterday. While organizing some books I found
that much to my surprise I had all four issues of
Gunmaster and Bullet Boy (#1-4). While I still don't have
all the issues numbered from #84-89 (this is the
series that eventually gave way to Judomaster)I have
several. I also have a couple of issues of "Six-Gun
Heroes" featuring the pair. Does anyone know how many
issues of this comic featured Gunmaster
stories?<br><br>I had long had a single issue of Gunmaster
featuring PAM art and thought he was a Morisi creation, but
now I realize different. I have issues by Tallarico &
Fracchio and Montes & Bache.<br>There seem to be other
artists involved too, but I'm not sure. I do know that
most of the ones not done by PAM feature beautiful
Dick Giordano covers. <br><br>Any other Gunmaster fans
out there? I am planning to read through the series
soon. I'm sure there are other pleasant surprises
waiting for me.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:24:47 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:24:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Gunmaster & Bullet Boy?
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Hi Dean it is mon march 26/2001.I too am a
gunmaster fan.A 30 yr fan of all the "Charlton Action
Heroes".Interested in corresponding.Also interested in buying---if
anyone has them---any issues of the magazine (not the
color comic sized...)charlton bullseye ...any issues
with the "Charlton action heroes".my email:
CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:46:11 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:46:11 -0800
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I'm looking for a few issues of the Bullseye myself. Don't be a stranger Chromium.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:02 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:02 -0800
Subject: Hey Sonofvulcan
Message-ID: <000TC77OA.0012FPE29.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Dean,<br> I asked John Morrow about the
possibility of a collected Charlton graphic novel-style
edition, and he said, that he hadn't really considered
doing one, but that he'd think about it. <br> Btw,
after helping stuff subscription envelopes with the new
treasury-sized Kirby Collector, I had a chance to view some
Jerry Ordway original art! A painting that will serve
as the cover for the Collected Fawcett book
TwoMorrows is releasing--BEAUTIFUL PAINTING! I also got to
see some Dick Gioradano JSA artwork that will serve
as some sort of cover somewhere down the line (also
very nice!). <br> For any Warren fans on the board,
TwoMorrows is releasing a 288 page collected edition of
Warren materials, repriting CBA articles with a ton of
new articles and artwork added! It looks to be 'the
one to get'! It is due out in June or
July.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:39:33 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:39:33 -0800
Subject: Re: Hey Sonofvulcan
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Thanks Loston. I appreciate your effort. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:23:06 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:23:06 -0800
Subject: CHARLTON ACTION HEROES
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Does anyone have the 1975 era CHARLTON BULLSEYE
SUBSCIPTION MAGAZINE issues (not to be confused with the
color comic issues),and/or THE CHARLTON
PORTPHOLIO,(which really apparently is a magazine,not a comic,but
not listed in GUIDE).I am looking for info on both.My
name is Phil.My email is CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:15:24 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: wlllljoyyyyy
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:15:24 -0800
Subject: Re: CHARLTON ACTION HEROES
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...Are you referring to this " The Aspiring
Comics Artise/Writer/Letterer's Guide " thing that C.
offered as a subscription premium at one time ? I've ,
often , meant 2 arsk 'bout it , bout it , meself ( I
don't have it , either ! ) !!!!!!!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:40:57 -0700
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Subject: hi
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Sonofvulcan, I think you probably know who this
is. Well, you should know who this is anyway, seeing
as how I'm your daughter!! I was bored so I thought
that I would check out your club and see what exactly
you do on the internet at 3:30 in the morning. And, I
also want to know what kaji dha means. I've never
heard you say that before!! Talk to you later.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:32:58 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:32:58 -0700
Subject: Alex Ross
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Has Alex Ross ever done anything with any or all of the Charlton Comics characters? It seems to me that this would be an obvious poster project for him, considering his love of classic characters.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:30:14 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:30:14 -0700
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Well howdy Gingerbread. As for the mystery of
"Kaji Dha" you will have to wait and inquire of me
later for that most powerful of all ancient secrets.
(It's some dumb comic book thing actually.)<br><br>See
you later.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:32:58 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:32:58 -0700
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Outside of the few glimpses we get of the heroes
in "Kingdom Come" I am not at all aware of Ross
having turned his hand to the heroes. I imagine all of
them are in that giant poster for "Crisis on Ifinite
Earths" too. I agree he could do wonders with the Action
Heroes. The realism they already to some degree have
would be very much enhanced.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:03:35 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:03:35 -0700
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I've seen that guide on ebay ever so often--<br><br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:19:47 -0700
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From: wlllljoyyyyy
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:19:47 -0700
Subject: Re: CHARLTON ACTION HEROES
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...A-Plus/ACG , apparently , reissued it at some
point ( updated ? ) - I don't have that version ,
either ! Hey , Loston , did you see my posting re: this
Hagar The Horrible comic book , prepared for but never
issued by , Charlton , that A-Plus issued during th'
Nineties . Is ACG in trouble ? Comic Buyers' Guide ,
f'rinstance , practically never lists them as
issuing/actually shipping any new stuff..." New Stuff " , of
course , may appear to be rawwwther a condradiction in
terms here , y'know !!!!!!!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:22:20 -0700
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From: wlllljoyyyyy
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...Does that nom de Web indicate some Frankie Avalon conciousness goin' on 'roundabout these parts ?????????  <br>    - dedewllll -


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:54:21 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:54:21 -0700
Subject: Fanfic Alert !!!!!!!!!
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...If anyone is interested , I've started my
Vengance Squad/Michael Mauser <br>( and...?...possibly ,
other , characters...?...) story , set in that page's "
world " , at the Earth 4 Starting Over club .


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:35:56 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:35:56 -0700
Subject: CBA Reactions?
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I have heard almost no reactions to the recently
released Comic Book Artist issue featuring the 70's at
Charlton. The issue was full of neat interviews (the best
one is with George Wildman though Nick Cuti's is good
too). Among the things I learned was that "Cuti" is
pronounced like "putty" and not "cootie". <br><br>We learned
once and for all that Charlton printed so many damn
comics because it was cheaper to print them than to shut
off the machines. Gives a whole new meaning to the
term "filler".<br><br>What do you all
think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:14:43 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:14:43 -0700
Subject: Re: CBA Reactions?
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...I've not seen it on sale anywhere ( I was ,
basically , planning to subcribe . !<br> Say , Joe Gill is
actually credited as " creator " , writer too , of
Vengance Squad . Was it his special pride & joy for him ?
Did he take the rights with him when Charlton tanked
?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:15:45 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:15:45 -0700
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...I've not seen it on sale anywhere ( I was ,
basically , planning to subcribe . ) !<br> Say , Joe Gill
is actually credited as " creator " , writer too ,
of Vengance Squad . Was it his special pride & joy
for him ? Did he take the rights with him when
Charlton tanked ?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:43:03 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:43:03 -0700
Subject: Re: CBA Reactions?
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I don't think he has the rights to the
characters. I think they may be in with that whole batch of
lesser known characters who went to the Richard
Broughton guy who runs ACG Comics. Seems like I've seen
some reprints of the Vengeance Squad stories tucked
into some of those books. I could well be wrong on
that though.<br><br>There is a great deal on who
bought which characters in the CBA issue, but the thing
is so confused that the editors made no effort to
distinguish on the particular illustrations that dot the
magazine.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:15:04 -0700
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From: gingerbread03
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Subject: Re: hi
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Well, willy, I'd answer your question but I'm a
little young for Frankie Avalon. Yes, I know who he is
(who hasn't seen Beach Blanket Bingo) but I don't
really understand why "gingerbread" would make me
concious of Frankie Avalon. As for where I got the
nickname, it was given to me by mother when I was little
and I decided to use it as my e-mail.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:25:39 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:25:39 -0700
Subject: Re: hi
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...It was just a jokey-poo , & not particularly ained at you , though I could see that it could be interpreted as such . " Gingerbread " was one of his hit records - " De De Dinah " was another .


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 07 Apr 2001 22:51:08 -0700
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From: gingerbread03
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Thanks for clearing that up. I knew it was a joke
and took it as such, though if that didn't come
across I do apologize. I didn't realize that
"Gingerbread" was a Frankie Avalon hit. You learn new things
everyday!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:20:25 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:20:25 -0700
Subject: It's been a pleasure--
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To all my online buds,<br><br>I'm taking a leave
of absence from posting for a while. I have
overextended myself, and have other commitments that require
my attention. Thanks for allowing me membership,
putting up with my rantings, and viewpoints. It's been
fun gang! I hope to return at some point, with that
club picture under my arm-- You can count on that! I'm
definately doing it!<br><br>Thanks for
everything,<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:43:25 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Since this is the club at which I first
encountered you Loston, I'll use this venue as the place to
say farewell. Thanks for all your support of my
various ventures and the the insights into the
professional artist's world that you have given me. Hope to
see you around.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...I was going to try to express this old dispute/mad on I have with the Kirby Collector/Twomorrows guy , given your closeness to him . Ah , well , p'raps some udder time...


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...This month's " Previews " has an ad , ( In the
" Book " section , I believe , ) for this book of
old DC romance comics , re-lettered , with new , "
funnier " , dialogue , a la " LAST KISS " !<br> Pssheee !
Whike I realize that using old , dated-looking mass
market popular culture stuff and <br>using its
out-of-date appearance for laughs<br> w/new words/narration
goes as far back , at least , as " Fractured Flickers
" ( which I've never? seen )/other silent
movie-based stuff , never mind MST3K.....still , psheee
!.........


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I heard that the Charlton Tarzan series called
"Jungle Tales of Tarzan" from the early sixties was
illegally released by Charlton. Something to do with the
fact that it was not sanctioned by Edgar Rice
Burroughs, Inc. ? If this is the case then why did ERB,Inc.
wait until 4 issues had been released to make a
complaint? Does anybody know anything about this? And is
this Tarzan series worth tracking down?


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...A lotta TarFans think it was purty good (
better than contemporary...Dell? GK ?...stuff ,
apparently...Mebbe it took a lil' while for ERB(C) , Inc. to come up
with a proper legal argument/pay enough lawyers ?


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Well, we aren't super close. I help him out by
stuffing his mags. and return, I enjoy his conversation,
the free books I get, and the free pizza he provides.
If you have a beef with him, you can always email
him about it. He welcomes feedback, negative and
positive, and has always responded to my emails, even
before I actually met him. His address is available on
the TwoMorrows website.<br><br>Take care all, really
leaving this time--just didn't want to live a club buddy
hanging,<br><br>Loston


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The series was drawn by Sam Glanzman. Glanzman's
take on the character was not all that unlike the look
Joe Kubert would give to Tarzan a few years later
when DC took on the Tarzan franchise.<br><br>I imagine
the reason the folks at ERB didn't react to the comic
at first is that they likely didn't even know about
it. Charltons were nortorious for poor distribution
and while this is pure speculation, the company
probably didn't come up on the Burrough's screen for some
time.<br>But there is no doubt they did indeed have the comic
stopped when they did learn of it. Charlton may have
assumed the character was in public domain (doubtful) or
they may have just tried to get one past the
system.<br><br>I have one issue (#5) and it is a very entertaining
comic.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Which Charlton character has recieved the best
handling from DC Comics and which has recieved the worst
treatment?<br><br>Blue Beetle has gotten the best treatment. He is still
recognizably the character Steve Ditko recreated all those
years ago. People may legitimately argue that he has
been mishandled as to personality, but the core of the
character remains.<br><br>Peacemaker without a doubt has
gotten the worst handling. The mission of world peace
that was communicated through the original
Gill-Boyette stories has been mocked and the character has
been distorted beyond recognition. Now the guy who is
Peacemaker is a long way from Christopher Smith and the
whole concept has been dilluted.<br><br>What do you all
think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Thanks Dean and Waltsland 1999 for the info on
the Charlton Tarzan series. I'm going to do my best
to track down a issue or two. It will be interesting
to see Charlton's take on Tarzan, because they
obviously didn't have ERB, Inc. telling them what was okay
and what wasn't like Dell and Gold Key did.


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You might argue that Son of Vulcan has recieved either the best or the worst treatment, since he apparently has been forgotten about.


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...Apparently , in fact , they had him long enough for him to appear in DC Challange...and then lost him ? Apparently , that's the case...Anybody have the details ?


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I always assumed he came over in the deal that
brought all the Action Heroes to DC, but Walt picked up
on a comment that the rights were a present for Roy
Thomas. So I don't know if they were bought by DC and
retained but Roy was allowed to use the character, or if
he was actually given the rights. I have not heard
him say he has the rights directly so I'm inclined to
doubt the latter.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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to my "Charlton House Ads" album. I wasn't sure
where to put it, so I added it to my album. This is the
same one I currently have as a club picture at my
"Atomic, Gold, and Silver" club, except at the larger size
in the album it is possible to make out the
details.<br><br>Happy now, Dean?<br><br>Take care,<br>Jon


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Happy! Happy! Happy! Thanks a lot Jon. This one
is a classic Silver Age cover in my opinion. The
dilemma is well defined on the cover. I wondered for
years about the details of that story before I at long
last found a copy.<br><br>Thanks again.<br>Dean


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I can't seem to locate the Son of Vulcan cover Jon. Help...please!<br><br>Dean


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...Go Under ? I mean , as a " full-fleged " ,
producing new stuff regularly , comic book company ? NOT
the ( To use it in the OPPOSITE of what I believe is
its true scientific meaning ! ) " half-life " period
that finally gasped to a( n anti- )climax about 1986 ,
I mean when they went out of business for the first
time !!!!! ( I remember <br>a " COMIC READER "
post-mortem ! )...When they stopped producing new stuff ! (
Of course , the anthology titles , especially , may
have had enough backlog to keep going for a lil' while
w/previously unpublished material . )<br>Dropping the ( I
would certainly assume , ) expensive , & time-consuming
TV liscences they had toward the end ( $6M Man , etc
. ) might've been a sign of that - But , when I
checked Overstreet - Aaah , I sort of forget , and -
there wasn't any " went out of business " notice ( In
O. ) , anyway !<br> Was it when they fired Gill and
Wildman ( I assume . ) ? P'raps the CBA C. Issue #2
answers this - but - I - ain't - seen - , let alone
ordered , it yet . ( I'll haveta M.O. it . ) <br> Us
olde-schewle comics fans know that Cover Dates , As A Rule ,
Are Rather Unreliable , but , 'twill do , I guess
!<br> How 'bout that " BIONIC WOMAN " book , too ? Was
that produced out of L.A. , p'raps ? Would certainly
seem to post-date the unplug date . The first ( of
many , ) half-assed " well , let's see if we can try
one more time " attempts ?


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It seems I should know that, but I don't right
off hand. I'll check the issue of CBA and get back to
you. The extensive interview with Wildman might yield
the answer. The history of the firm available on the
net might get the answer.<br><br>I want to say that
it would have been around 1981 or 1982. The last
creative burst was with the four-color Charlton Bullseye,
but this may fall into that "half-life" category you
mention.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...I've always wanted to ask - and I think I have
, halfway - about that " 4C CB "...I understand
that it was a sort of " professional fanzine " , with
people getting published , ( " Think about the exposure
, kid ! " ) but unpaid , except for 50 copies , or
the like ? I was , essentially , COMPLETELY out of
comics then , so... <br> I've mentioned that I recall
seeing stuff , in the ACG/A-Plus reprint titles , that
LOOKED sort of " like 1970s fanzine fodder " ( Thus , "
stuff that could've been in 4C CB " . ) - not CharVerse
characters ( Or , Thunderbunny . ) , anthology stories . So
they kept the rights ? That's comics publishers for
you !!!!!<br> The '85-ish period apparently did
involve some new material , so...


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I'm still on hiatus, but I was uploading scans
today from the KLYDE & MERIEM, CAVEWOMAN one-shot, and
thought I'd share with my online buds a sneak peek of
page
one:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/Page01.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/Page01.jpg</a><br>Hope you enjoy--<br>Take care guys,<br><br>Loston


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Cool, Loston! Always good to see new work of yours. I'm going to keep an eye out for your published stuff, because you've gained an appreciative fan here...


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&gt;&gt;&gt;I've always wanted to ask - and I
think I have , halfway - about that " 4C CB "...I
understand that it was a sort of " professional fanzine " ,
with people getting published , ( " Think about the
exposure , kid ! " ) but unpaid , except for 50 copies ,
or the like ? I've mentioned that I recall seeing
stuff , in the ACG/A-Plus reprint titles , that LOOKED
sort of " like 1970s fanzine fodder " ( Thus , " stuff
that could've been in 4C CB " . ) , anthology stories
. So they kept the rights ? That's comics
publishers for you !&lt;&lt;<br><br>Speaking as one of the
folks who had a one-pager accepted by the colour
Charlton Bullseye (though due to that title's
cancellation, it ended up in Scary Tales 37 - the "Pandora"
page), there was certainly no agreement that Charlton
got the rights to the work. In fact, my recollection
is that you got no payment (other than 10 copies of
the issue you appeared in per page accepted) but that
you kept the copyright.<br><br>So if Roger Broughton
or anybody else reproduces my sole measly page
(unlikely, I know, with the wealth of other material he has
to choose from...) I am gonna be well
miffed..<br><br>- Howard Stangroom.


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Thanks for the information. It is a pleasure to hear from someone who is a direct source. I'll have to dig around and see if Scary Tales #37 is one I am lucky enough to have.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Oooooo... pretty.


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I'm going entirely by my memory here so later
info may be more accurate: Charlton stopped soliciting
new material in 1977 (Maybe even 1976, but I really
think it was '77) and later put out the 'Modern Comics"
thing, which was just an attempt to re-package random
comics and sell them to the growing market made of
comics shops and chain stores. Then they stopped
publishing again until the early 80s.<br>The point is that
by 1977, the company was pretty much a living corpse
as far as comics publishing went. Too bad. By the
mid-70s, the company was publi8shing a lot of exciting
experimental stuff by new people that kept me reading them. I
sincerely believe that had they kept on, they would have
had a good and talented list of regulars who, even if
they mainly went on to work for DC or something, would
have liked also doing stuff for Charlton for the
chance to do stories they believed in. I know at the
time I was hoping they'd revive Gorgo and Reptisaurus
(or equivelant big monster magazines). I wrote
several letters urging that, not knowing that they had no
plans to publish ANYTHING new.


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Chasmithalpha, regarding "Modern Comics", could
you tell me if they just reissued Charlton comics or
if they did other comic book companies such as Gold
Key and Dell? I'd also like to know if there is a
site that lists all of the reissued comics they
produced? As I am looking for some of these Modern comics
reissues that the Overstreet has listed as being released
but I've never seen them. It would be nice to confirm
that they actually were released. I don't see very
many Modern Comics where I live- Thanks-


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The only Modern Comics I have ever seen have been
Charlton reprints. That doesn't necessarily mean there
aren't others but that's all I have. I collected up
several of those years back as a cheap way of getting
some of those stories. Now that I have most of them in
the original the Modern reprints are nice little
packages in their own right. I'll check what I have as a
way of beginning a confirmed listing of what was out
there.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Mile High comics lists the Modern reprints of
Captain Atom (and Blue Beetle, I think) along with the
regular Charlton editions. I've considered getting a
couple; they're cheaper than the orignal, and sometimes
it's good just to sit and read a good
Ditko-illustrated story.


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...I'l get picky-picky-picky here and point out -
to someone considerably older than I ! - that the
comics shop-type market concept of<br> " soliciting "
was hardly operative at this time .<br>However , yeah
, around '76-'77 C. , basically , ended , and , as
I said , I recall a contemporary COMIC READER where
someone wrote a " what Charlton did wrong was not put out
enough super-heroes , etc. " letter , to which the CR
writer - Rona Blabbit ? - replied " What a lovely
example of<br> tunnel vision . C. made <br> the best try
that they could do..". Actually , with all the "
just-one-more-try"s that Charlton did , the Modern reprints &
reprints? under the Charlton banner , along with this
Bionic Woman title , the " ama-pro " Bullseye concept ,
and this last-ditch '85-'86 attempt , Charlton more
or less stayed in the comics business through early
'86 , really , it seems to me , even if they
would<br> " no , really , we're gonna STOP - going cold
turkey this time " for a few months here and there
!!!!!!!!! ( Indeed , it occured to me this morning/last
night , and I was going to say here anyway , that , I
guess , the '85-'86 last gasp DID involve some newly
commisioned material , not just reprints - the Ditko
Static<br>( which was different from that " talking Ayn-fann
ameboae "(sic!) stuff I mentioned , though I believe my
memory is accurate when I recall seeing 'em - I didn't
do drugs<br>back then !!!!!!!!! ) , and the attempt
at Iron Corporal ( 'Tho I've never seen it , ) ,
were both newly-published stuff , I believe...and they
actually went to the length of an AMAZING HEROES ( and ,
elsewhere , presumably ? ) advertisment for the company
!!!!!!!!! )


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I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I
think Charles meant that Charlton had stopped
"soliciting" new material, or ordering newly written and drawn
stories from talent. I don't think he was referring to
the concept of listing new comics for sale. But that
was just the way I read it, I see how you came to
your conclusion.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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You got it right. I meant that after 1977,
Charlton was not looking for new material, though I do
believe they had stuff they'd already bought and put on
the shelf.<br>Regarding Modern Comics, they were
strictly Charlton reprints, just a re-publishing of random
old issues with a new logo slapped on.<br>I can
personally verify that there were comic book specialty shops
by the mid-70s. I helped friends start one across
the street from my house at the time, which must have
been 1974- or 75. One could still buy comics on the
old wire racks at drugstores and groceries, but those
venues were disappearing quickly. So I can imagine--but
not prove--that comics published in 1977-79 would
have been slated to be distributed via comic book
shops. Indeed, in my area, those were the only shops
carrying Charlton comics, since the regular newstand
distributor ignored that company entirely!


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...Though I was never in one 'til the Eighties ,
I'm aware that they were around in th' '70s . However
, the big companies weren't really catering to 'em
'til much later on ( & the whole thing of "
solicitations " , of three-months-hence comics - and printing
an amount based on the pre-orders you receive ,
which is the very basis of the comics shop system -
this whole network of , well , it's down to exactly
one catalogue , Previews ! ) -<br>I guess Marvel's
making " DAZZLER " #1 , in 1980 , a comics-shop
exclusive , was sort of " the beginning " ? Seen as a test
at the time ? <br>I guess either Comics and Comix ,
or Phil Sueling , are , Conventional Wisdom-like ,
seen as having the " first " C-shops , 'bout --- '73 ?
'74 ? Guess your buddies were " early adaptors " , as
the tterm goes today !!!!!!!!!


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I first began frequenting a comics specialty in
1979 or so. It actually was an old porn store looking
to improve its lot in life by attracting a less
repulsive (barely) kind of customer. When I first went
there (recommended by a fellow comics reader and one of
my professors) I found old oily floors and the
musty, musty odor of decaying paper. The guys behind the
counter were a real pair. One was a corpulent fellow who
played with a pet squirrel while the other was balding
blonde chap with coke bottle glasses. Friendly,
friendly, friendly! I remained loyal to them despite the
untimely death of the squirrel guy and the ultimate sale
of the store and removal to a swankier district of
town (instead of saloons it was surrounded by Greek
food stores).<br><br>The direct sale material came
later in response to the development of places like
this in order to give them product to move to their
pickier clientelle. It wasn't long until Pacific,
Eclipse, AC, First, and a host of others came tumbling
onto those stands.<br><br>Thanks for the
memories.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I don't have time ( he said ! ) to go checking
thru th' back postings , BUT !!!!!!!!! , th' person
who picked up a Comic Book Marketplace for me , and
the person who wuz gonna send me a Xerox(C) of that
1985 Ditko ad for Charlton - who I think were the same
people !!!!!!!!! - <br>should contact me , or
Waltsland_1999 - also , well , <br>the same people !!!!!!!!! -
if you want to privately give me yer. address so's I
can get payment t' 'youse !!!!!!!!!<br>" We " both
have " @yahoo.com " Webdresses !


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Wouldn't it be great to encourage the publisher
of the new ACG comics to start featuring new
"Charlton-like" material and, in a sense, recreate the variety
and "flavor" of the Charlton comics? Actually, I
mention this because I've been thinking of doing just
that. I personally would love to work on strips that
are fresh analogs of The Fightin' Five, Sarge
Steel...heck, even Atomic Mouse and Billy the Kid. I'd do it
cheap, just to be able to something I really
enjoy.<br>Realistically speaking, I doubt if the guy would consider it
for various reasons...but now that I'm actually
typing my thoughts I'm saying to myself "Hmmmm, I just
wonder if...?"<br>For all I know, the guy just MIGHT be
willing on taking a chance with a new "Reptisaurus" or
"Nurse Romances", if he could get the raw material to
print.<br>Is this just a stupid fantasy or what...?


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The latest ACG offering I've seen was an issue of
Western material dedicated to Clayton Moore. Now the fact
that not a single Lone Ranger comic story appears
anywhere within this package aside it is a pretty
interesting collection. There is at least one Gunmaster story
and some other masked gunmen. It's a bit pricey for
B&W material but it was an interesting packaging
idea. It got me to pick it up. But I didn't buy
it.<br><br>I'd say the chance of getting "new" material is
virtually a nonstarter. ACG seems to be a cut-rate
operation (appropriate enough to be handling Charlton
material) and I don't see even an inkling they want to
handle new stuff.<br><br>I agree it would be neat, and
there is a core audience for it. But I don't know how
they could make money. Charlton didn't need to make
money on its comics and so we were blessed for many
years beyond what the market would allow.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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...ANOTHER publisher , the same one that put out
the " LAST KISS " stuff , has announced an " ATOMIC
MOUSE " comic . apparently w/some new stuff , and I
have it on order . Didn't I mention this'n ?<br><br>
I've been wondering what the state of ACG is...they
never seem to have stuff listed , either as " shipping
" , or " scheduled " in those respective CBG
columns , though Previews still lists 'em...I have
several titles of theirs on subscription at my shop , and
have ordered more stuff beyond that , but I ain't
received nuffin' 4 quite a while ! <br> Some months
ago...at a ( NBC-I , actually ! Hoo ha . ) Web adress I
don't really use anymore , I tried to E them to get a
newsletter/whatnot ( As a house ad suggested I do ! ) , and got an E
back to " no web page yet , contact us in the middle
of the month " effect ( To get a mass E'ing then ? )


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The Charlton Bullseye celebrates its first anniversary tomorrow. Should we do something special to mark the event? Does anyone know a good internet bakery?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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I've got an even better idea.<br>Why don't we each do a fan-fic about 'anniversaries'--wedding,dating,etc.?<br>Just a suggestion,of course.


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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 01:31:44 -0700
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Im not sure what you mean, but I would be willing to explore any possibility.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 03 May 2001 01:39:49 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 01:39:49 -0700
Subject: CHARLTON BULLSEYE ONE YEAR OLD!
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The Bullseye is one year old today. Doc Quantum
is to be congratulated for starting up this club.
Charlton has gotten rather a lot of attention in the last
year with the birth of at least one fanzine dedicated
to the company (Charlton Spotlight) and two huge
issues of Comic Book Artist dedicated to the Action
Heroes and the 70's revival.<br><br>There seems to be a
lot of interest in the venerable Derby company and I
have learned more about the firm in this past year
than in all years previous. Many of the questions that
have nagged me since the company first went defunct
int he late 70's have been largely answered.<br><br>I
have enjoyed the conversation here about Charlton and
I think it is safe to say that the comics produced
as an afterthought by the company have made a deeply
personal and lasting impression on the membership here and
on folks elsewhere. Charlton is well
remembered.<br><br>I had kind of hoped we might crack 1000 posts
before the anniversary but things have slowed here of
late and we weren't able to do that. No big deal. Slow
and steady has always been the watchword here and
will continue to be so I imagine as long as Yahoo lets
us play around here on the old internet.<br><br>Here
is to the next year, may we all prosper and find
that special Charlton comic we've all been looking
for!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 06 May 2001 20:37:41 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chasmithalpha
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Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 20:37:41 -0700
Subject: A new site for Ditko fans
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Most of you know that Robin Snyder and Steve
Ditko have been publishing books of his work, both from
Charlton in the 60s and from other publications later. The
web page for Robin snyder that displays covers and
gives ordering i9nfo on these books is
<a href=http://www.comicsfun.com/thecomics target=new>http://www.comicsfun.com/thecomics</a><br>Of additional interest might be a third page to this
site which offers for sale comics, magazines and
fanzines, mostly in the $2-$5 range, including a good
number of Charlton comics and even some books I never
heard of about various comics/artists. Check the site
out. Most of you will find something of interest, I
think.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 07 May 2001 08:21:15 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:21:15 -0700
Subject: Re: CHARLTON BULLSEYE ONE YEAR OLD!
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I posted yesterday about the club being 1 year
old, but my post seems to have been deleted! This has
happend to me at this particular club a half dozen times
now, since I first joined. Guess it could be one
reason we haven't reached 1000 posts! Damn
Yahoo!!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 07 May 2001 08:22:43 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:22:43 -0700
Subject: Re: CHARLTON BULLSEYE ONE YEAR OLD!
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Once again:<br><br>Congratulations Charlton Bullseye on your 1 year anniversary!  Thanks for bringing Charlton back into my life guys!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 07 May 2001 08:27:32 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:27:32 -0700
Subject: Club picture update
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Still busy beyond belief. I've been invited to be
a guest at Heroes Con in Charlotte, NC. I was also
asked to contribute some artwork for the program book.
It had to be an Avengers theme. So I'm posting it
here as a preview of what the Charlton Bullseye club
picture might look like. I know some of you have already
seen this at other clubs, but for those who
haven't:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/avengers1.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/avengers1.jpg</a><br><br>Can't wait to draw Captain Atom and the gang. It's been
a long time coming, so thanks for your unparalleled
patience.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 07 May 2001 11:35:26 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:35:26 -0700
Subject: Re: CHARLTON BULLSEYE ONE YEAR OLD!
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Sorry about that Loston. You can be certain that
I didn't delete your message. Messages are too hard
to come by here to be deleting any. Yahoo has been
acting up on me too lately. I have had some messages
make the list of messages but never reach the front
page. It makes the whole thing far too
compicated.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 08 May 2001 09:07:30 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: greatonefrommatewan
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:07:30 -0700
Subject: Re: Charlton Art
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I recently purchased a John Byrne original from
one of the Charlton Bullseye magazines with
Doomsday+1 in it. It's a nice, two-thirds splash with
dinosaurs in the larger panel and Boyd and a robot in the
bottom panel. Since I don't have it yet, I'm not sure
who the robot is, nor do I remember what issue of
Bullseye it appeared in. It's a nice piece, from looking
at the picture of it, though. Is Byrne's art from
that period really that tough to get? I loved his
stuff then and had been wanting to get a piece of his
old Charlton stuff and found it on eBay. It didn't
come cheap, though!<br>Michael Browning


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 10 May 2001 00:55:32 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:55:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Charlton Art
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Congratulations on the purchase. I envy you having such a wonderful piece of "rare" Byrne Charlton artwork. I imagine you did pay a pretty penny for it. Enjoy!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 10 May 2001 03:11:12 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 03:11:12 -0700
Subject: Welcome New Charltonians!
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I want to take a moment and welcome all the new
members to the Charlton Bullseye. I usually like to do it
as folks join up, but Yahoo has been giving me
problems lately and I haven't been able to keep up.
<br><br>Make yourselves at home and don't hesitate to leave a
message. We all like the little Derby company
here.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 10 May 2001 10:06:27 -0700
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From: wlllljoyyyyy
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:06:27 -0700
Subject: "...Wanna Help ? " 
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I've recently had a number of letters published
in CBG under my full name* , Walter Loyd Lilly <br>(
The source - Yes !!!!!!!!! of this pseudonym ,
<br>'long wit' a certain S. Ditko-originated <br>Scourge Of
All Bleeding-Heart Radiclibs <br>And
Criminal-Coddlers...that's in case you didn't guess it !!!!!!!!! ) A recent
<br>one pointed out that , in their recent " 1971
"<br>issue , which published , as with the modern CEG , "
scheduled to ship/confirmed as shipped "<br>listings for (
roughly ) that week in 1971 , they left out most of
Charlton's releases . Maggie T. admitted that was the case ,
saying that their information on Charlton from that
period ran rather shallow , endein w/the sentence quoted
above , in inviting input re: what-C.s-shipped-when .
I'm really not in any position to help , anyway ,
so...<br> <br><br><br><br><br><br> * - Of course , I do
realize that people tend to say " Never trust a man with
three names " - It was sort of a " my genre writing
will be as WLL and my - uh , " real " ? - well , <br>"
big-time " , anyway , writing would be as a Loydless
piteous wretch - perhaps a vauge <br>" getting back at my
mother's family " from whence Loyd - yes , that's how it's
spelled - came ( NOT for the name . More than you want to
hear hhuuhhhhh ????????? ) , while honoring my father
by having jus' his monicker on my - sniff! - as if I
HAD any yet - <br>" real " writing ? - Hey , look
what it did for Stanley Martin Leiber !!!!!!! Anyway
anybody born with ( Vis. Peter David . ) two LAST names
needs all the help he can get !!!!!!!!! I wish computer
keyboards could do italics .


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 11 May 2001 12:27:58 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: waltsland_1999
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:27:58 -0700
Subject: doctorquantomstimeline...
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...Which I suppose he may not have written ? Or
did you ? I was going to say something about Terry
Lee and Pat Ryan first meeting in 1947 , but I noted
the ref. to Son Of Vulcan dying in <br>" WAR OF THE
GODS " #1 . WAS he in that ? I HAD it<br> - but I
wouldn't have rcgognized him !


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 11 May 2001 12:48:00 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: wlllljoyyyyy
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:48:00 -0700
Subject: Gong !!!!! Gong !!!!! Gong !!!!!
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Was this Charlton Terry And The Pirates comic
<br> ( which I've never read . )<br>an attempt to
retell the early stories , in a post-WWII , Cold War ,
world ?<br> ( perhaps reflecting a 1950s TV version
<br>of it , which I've never seen . ) <br>
Earth-Caniff's Terry Lee met Pat Ryan as a<br>) knicker-clad )
adolescent , in 1935-esque China , adventured along with him
until approximately 1940 , then , now a late teenager?
, joined the U.S. Army Air Corps , and went through
a little something known as World War II . A
Terry/Pat who met , first , in 1947 could hardly have had
their pre-military adventures in a China that much
resembled 1935 China - a country called Japan , and a man
known <br>as Mao , had seen to that !!!!!!!!!<br> Was
this some revisionism ? - or simply a mistake ? Or ,
as I said , WAS this Earth-4 Terry/Pat a post-Dub
Dub first-meeters ?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 11 May 2001 12:49:25 -0700
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From: wlllljoyyyyy
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:49:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Gong !!!!! Gong !!!!! Gong !!!!!
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A mistake's okay , I'm just asking - so is revisionism ( But you go off to the rice paddies , imperialist running dog !!!!!!!!! )


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 11 May 2001 19:25:21 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:25:21 -0700
Subject: Jetsons Question
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Since I was knee-high to a grasshopper, I've been
a Jetsons fan. I really was never all that big into
the Flinstones, but I really loved the original
Jetsons cartoons. Recently, I bought 7 Jetsons books on
ebay--one of them was a Charlton issue. Anyone know how
many issues Charlton did?<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 12 May 2001 07:54:51 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 07:54:51 -0700
Subject: Charlton Jetson Comics!
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Yahoo won't let me reply to your question, but I
did read it already and I have an answer for you
Loston. According to the Charlton Checklist in the recent
Michael Ambrose fanzine "Charlton Spotlight" there were
20 issues of The Jetsons produced by the Derby
company. The dates range from 11/70 to 12/73.<br><br>Hope
that helps. By the way, I love the Jetsons too. I
always found them far and away more entertaining than
Fred and Barney and the gang.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 12 May 2001 10:29:17 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: waltsland_1999
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 10:29:17 -0700
Subject: Re: I Think I'm A Scone Now . Tea Hee !
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...I assume that's an " original " , meaning ,
not so much the add'l eps. that H/B prouduced during
the Eighties ? Me too , but it's no overwhelming
deal...Cable around here don't carry Cartoon Network , anyway
, and , I believe the show<br>( likewise
Flintstones and Scooby-Doo ? )'s an excloosive to Cartoon
Network ( & other Turner cableizers ) now ?<br> Say , are
there any bootlegs of that Jetsons movie from 1991 with
the original Judy's voice -<br>not Tiffany's ? At the
time of that Tom & Jerry feature film eithe Bill Hanna
or Joe Barbera were on " LARRY KING " , and I wanted
to ( but , didn't !!!!! ) ask him those + other ?s
.<br> Was " RUFF 'N' REDDY " a Hanna-Barbera-OWNED show
??????? I don't recall ever seeing it , or , that the
characters ever appeared on <br>" YOGI'S ARK " ,
etc....those "H/B universe consortium/Crisis " shows !!!!!!!!!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 12 May 2001 11:56:18 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:56:18 -0700
Subject: Off topic, sad news--
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Douglas Adams, author of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" died on Friday morning of a heart attack at the age of 49.  Man--that just plain sucks!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 13 May 2001 15:06:33 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: waltsland_1999
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Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:06:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Off topic, sad news--
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...I never actually read/saw any of his stuff , I
think , even his " DOCTOR WHO " episodes ( Which he
never allowed to be novelized - the only WHOs to be
left " that way " ! ) , which is why I added " saw " .


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 16 May 2001 19:10:03 -0700
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: waltsland_1999
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:10:03 -0700
Subject: " RBCC #1 . "
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I recently acquired , though ain't read yet ,
though I've scanned it , the year-ish old new RBCC #1 ,
ordered thru PREVIEWS/my store ( I also ordered the new ,
all-ERB #2 , but , it didn't come ! ) . The #1 article is
a look at Ditko's 50s C. horror work , both pre-
and post-Code , presumably complete . There's plenty
of repros <br>( Though no full stories ! ) , and a
GREAT! re-used cover ( Nice , old , " Weird Tales "
cover on the back , too . ) . Other articles include a
look at EC zines thru th' years , repros of Shadow
pulp mag interior illos , + th' ? of whether a young
Orson Welles wrote & sold pulp fiction <br>( Briefly:
Probably , but no one's traced it for certain ! ) . At
$9.95 , it's less than many old comics would do you
,<br>and , there's a lot to read .


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 16 May 2001 19:31:54 -0700
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From: waltsland_1999
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I also got the first ACG comics I've gotten in a
while , ( I believe I saw the first " Confirmed Shipped
" report I've seen for them in CBG's
thus-<br>intended column that I've <br>seen in a while , as well
!!!!! ) this pre-bagged 2-pack of " THE GREAT DETECTIVE
" #7 and " CLASSIC<br> TERRY AND THE PIRATES " #5 ,
selling for $5.90 , I believe ( 2 X $2.95 . ) , no
numbers on the cover , just in the incidia . I suppose
ACG may be trying to double up/get as much as they
can from their faithful fans , the two comics have
2000 dates , I dunno if they were delayed for a while
, but , I think so , I believe " Terry " is the
immediate follow-up to the last ish that I posted about
here , lo , these many long postings back here . Maybe
there's some weird financial ( though not ecological
)/the pressing plant charges you less advantage to this
- Plus , they're a Canadian company , and ,
especially with NAFTA...<br>who knows ? <br> " GREAT "
reprints a Sherlock Holmes comic strip , by Edith Meiser
and Frank Giacoa ( Did this Meiser do any more comics
? W/all the attention to <br>women
professionals...) , with a very " Caniffy " look to it , no doubt
th' reason 4 th' pairing . Indeed , the front figures
are , sorta , <br>more " Caniffy " than the 1935
Caniffs are , <br>sort of !!!!! There's also a...Charlton
?...comic book story , " Two Fisted Fix " , signed
<br>Froilo and Loscia? ( My<br>notes are a little blurry . )
" TERRY "'s all-Milty , tho. w/more filler than
usual - " only 27 story pages , I suppose to end at a
natural point , and at the end of a week , on the dailys
reprinted . ( Holmes is daily/Sunday . ) <br>I'd still ,
mebbe , recommend buying , if U can afford , obviously
, something from this company...isn't " PREVIEWS "
on-line/aren't there on-line comics-sellers that offer their
stuff/otherwise offer ACG ????? I dunno .


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Just a side note of no great imp[ortance. When
the Jetson's movie came out, I heard a radio
interview with the person who was Judy's voice in the tv
series, and she was really miffed at not being chosen to
do the voice for the film. Apparantly she was making
herself available to do interviews for stations across
the country to give vent to her anger. Based on that,
I don't think she did any voice work for the
feature film and therefore there wouldn't be any such
thing as a bootleg copy of the film with her voice. As
I recall, the situation she was angry about was
that she wasn't called on to do any work at all, not
even to try out.<br>Ahhhhh....Hollywood!


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I've become something of a casual fan of this
reprint company over the last couple years so I try to
keep an eye out for their product, and I can say that
these comics almost always come in under the radar of
comics readers and even shop owners. I mention this
becuase the comics they put out seem not to be referred
to in order forms and so on...the retailers seem to
think these books are beneath anyone's notice! That's
why info on what the company puts out is so hard to
get. Further, they don't often in clude "house ads" in
the books so you can't tell what other titles they
offer...and when they have, I think several times books that
ARE mentioned haven't appeared! I find it
confusing.<br>At this point, I think the currently published books
from ACG are two titles reprinting Dick Tracy,and one
each for "Tales of the Green Beret", "Star Hawks",
"Terry". I think they are still trying to print a lot of
Basil Wolverton work---in a chat room a guy who is in
contact with the Wolverton children in order to write
Wolverton's bio asserted that ACG plans to publish ALL of
Wolverton's work. I keep finding past issues of titles on the
stands too---just a few days ago I got the 2nd issue of
Tarpe Mills' "Miss Fury" #2 which must have been out
about a year but I never saw it.<br>It's annoying that
info on these books is so hard to find! But
locally--perhaps even because of my questions--some comics
retailers are putting out issues of these books, even back
issues, so personally I'm hopeful that I get to at least
see the titles as they become available.<br>By the
way, as an addition to my earlier post about Steve
Ditko's work available from the Robin Snyder webpage, I
just saw at a store a copy of "Steve Ditko's Package"
which reprints entirely Ditko's ghost story Charlton
work, about 60 pages worth. I believe it's #2 in a
series that so far is up to #6. (Akas--I didn't get it
inasmuch as I had gone over budget getting a couple things
I was afraid would be gone forever if I didn't buy
them now! So I'll have to wait a while and go back and
pick it up myself. Fortuantely for me, hardly anyone
likes Ditko's work anymore except for Spider Man! So it
should still be there when I get the money!)


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Just a side note of no great imp[ortance. When
the Jetson's movie came out, I heard a radio
interview with the person who was Judy's voice in the tv
series, and she was really miffed at not being chosen to
do the voice for the film. Apparantly she was making
herself available to do interviews for stations across
the country to give vent to her anger. Based on that,
I don't think she did any voice work for the
feature film and therefore there wouldn't be any such
thing as a bootleg copy of the film with her voice. As
I recall, the situation she was angry about was
that she wasn't called on to do any work at all, not
even to try out.<br>Ahhhhh....Hollywood!


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I've been watching for stuff from them too. They
printed some really good stuff. They reprinted The Shadow
newspaper strip (which I had gotten from Eternity Comics 10
years ago), Charlie Chan, Nemisis, a couple of war
comics, and a bastard version of "Destination:
Moon".<br>I have had trouble getting stuff I did order. I
ordered Miss Fury #1, but only got #2. I have ordered
every issue of Star Hawks and Green Berets, but have
only gotten 3 SH and 1 GB. I ordered a Jungle Jim
reprint (with, I believe, Ditko/Wood art), and never saw
it.<br>Their printing schedule is a little strange too; I
think they use a ouiji board to decide the publication
date.


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...( You woin't tryin' 2 pre-empt numero 1000 by
postin' twice , were ya ??????????? ) I remenbered it as
being that she HAD done a voice track , ( A
rough/non-final one , mebbe ? ) , and it'd been shitcanned in
favor of Tiffany's , after she/her manager insisted on
it - As I recall , she ( The original Judy , who's
name escapes me as now , ) died , coinncadinka'lly ,
not long after that ( She hadn'y been a teenager even
in 1962 , remember . ) .


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Back when I first bought Charlton comics,
they<br>had the CDC emblem on the cover -- probably Charlton
management was hoping to mislead kids into thinking they
were buying DC comics.<br><br>My first CDC purchase
was Timmy the Timid Ghost.<br>Timmy of course was a
Casper ripoff.<br><br>I read it at a movie double
feature. One movie may have been The Fly, & because
Twilight Zone gave me nightmares I wasn't supposed to
watch horror movies. So during The Fly, or whichever
horror movie, I sat in the theatre lobby & read my Timmy
the Timid Ghost comic. Occasionally, maybe when I
heard an onscreen scream, I'd peek in & see what was
going on on screen.<br><br>The second movie was
probably a western....


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Subject: Space Adventures with Captain Atom
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Anyway, I became a CDC / Charlton fan when I
bought & read a couple of the original 10 cent Space
Adventures with Ditko's Captain Atom! I had & still have the
origin issue & the issue with the<br>little boy who rode
a space bird during his sleep.


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Subject: Ditko weird
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I loved the weird stories Ditko did for CDC /
Charlton! One of the weird ones I remember had a man who
found a 5 leaf clover. When he showed it to his wife &
child, they showed him the 7 leaf clovers they had
found. <br><br>I still have a 10 cent CDC / Charlton
comic with<br>a Ditko cover showing a man trapped
inside a light bulb!


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Subject: Lash Larue
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The first CDC / Charlton comic I was GIVEN was a
Lash LaRue western -- with double covers! Back in
those olden days finding a comic with double covers was
like finding a four leaf clover.<br><br>I wish I still
had that comic. &lt;sigh&gt; But I do still have a
handful of CDC / Charlton westerns.


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Subject: Charlton Action Heroes
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Later on, I bought & collected most of the
Dick<br>Giordano edited Action Hero comics.<br><br>I had some of
the pre Giordano editorship super hero issues --
various Blue Beetle issues & the<br>Son of Vulcan run. I
didn't like Blue Beetle or<br>Son of Vulcan much. I
believe Tony Tallarico did the Son of Vulcan art & some
of Blue Beetle art.<br>& Tony Tallarico is one of my
most unfavorite Silver Age artists.<br><br>But being a
geezer comic fan, I just can't understand why you young
whippersnappers <br>don't like Jerry Grandinetti! Grandinetti was
great!<br><br>But back to Giordano.<br><br>I really liked
Giordano's Sarge Steel (& tolerated the issues that Monte &
Bache illustrated). Still have all the Sarge
Steel<br>issues.<br><br>& PAM's (Peter A. Morisi) Thunderbolt
remains<br>one of my oldtime favorites. Still have all those
(PAM issues) too.<br><br>McLaughlin's Judomaster, I
got tired of before the run was over. Wish I had kept
my old issues tho.<br><br>I HATED Pat Boyette's
PeaceMaker. (I was anti- Vietnam War.) Most of the time
Boyette's art didn't do much for me, but occasionally
Boyette's art elsewhere has been fantastic.<br><br>I forget
who did Children of Doom -- was it Boyette or Aparo.
That was an excellent comic.<br>& I still have
it.<br><br>The Dikto revived Captain Atom was great! Still have
all those. Maybe / probably you young whippersnappers
don't know that writer David Kaler<br>was past
president of the Academy of Comic Books Arts or whatever it
was called back then. Kaler was a fan turned pro.
Anybody know whatever happened to him?<br><br>The Ditko
Blue Beetle was even better! Ditko seemed to making
the effort to make Blue Beetle<br>Charlton's
SpiderMan!<br><br>The Question was OK. As Ditko became more & more
ideological, the Question / Mr. A become less &<br>less
interesting.<br><br>Wish I had bought & kept more of Monte & Bache's
Fightin' Five. That book wasn't half bad.<br><br>I did buy
Hercules, but didn't like it that much.<br>Forgot what the
back feature was in Hercules -- it may have been
good.<br><br>Unfortunately, I didn't know about Wander, the back feature in
Billy the Kid, until after its run. I may have an issue
or 2. Aparo started Wander & another artist whose
name escapes me took over the strip when Aparo moved
to DC.


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Subject: Charlton in the 1970s
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In the 1970s, I was fortunate enough to
catch<br>Byrne's Doomsday + 1 and Staton's E-Man. <br><br>I also
read Warren Sattler's Yang. <br><br>& also remember
Sanyo Kim's scratchy / sketchy art for his interesting
panel breakdowns. <br><br>I also remember Wayne(?)
Howard's Wally Woodesque art & humorous horror stories.


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Subject: death of Charlton
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I'm very sorry Charlton died. <br><br>Charlton
was always a 2nd rate comic company --<br>except when
Giordano was editor of the Action Heroes line.<br><br>BUT,
Charlton often published the early works of<br>big talents
& at various times published innovative features
that other comic companies probably would have
rejected for having too little commercial
potential.<br><br>Also, Charlton published art by big names in career
decline & comic business decline -- for instance, Shuster
(career decline), Williamson (EC cutback to Mad), Jack
Davis, and John Severin.<br><br>And Charlton also took
over titles & stories from other companies, such as
Fawcette, when such <br>companies left the comic book
business.<br><br>And some of the low profile Charlton stuff
was<br>still fun, entertaining comics! Charlton did westerns,
war comics, and racing comics, all of which had its
own readership. For a while my brother read the air
force type Charltons.


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Subject: unreadable Charlton comics
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IN MY OPINION, Charlton had some of the most
unreadable comics on the newstand!<br><br>Space War and most
of the Space Adventures run was pretty dreary --
except for the Ditko stuff<br>& a few other stories.
<br><br>Nicholas & Alascia turned out some of the worst drek art
(IN MY OPINION) for many of the Charltons.<br><br>And
IN MY OPINION Joe Gill turned out some of the worst
hack stories ever.


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Subject: Gorgo & Konga!
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How could I forget Gorgo & Konga?!<br><br>I used
to have the first Gorgo. &lt;sigh&gt;<br><br>I had a
few other Gorgos & Kongas. Ditko started both books,
but he didn't do the whole runs, if memory
serves.<br><br>I may still have a few. I think I still have the 25
cent giant reprint Charlton put out during
its<br>Giordano heydays!


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Subject: PAM's masked western hero
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Somewhere in the late 1950s to early to mid
1960s, PAM (Peter A. Morisi) did a masked western hero
for Charlton that wasn't bad.<br><br>Anybody remember
the character's name? Masked Rider? Blue Mask?
<br><br>In the 1970s I halfway tried to build a collection.
I have an issue or 2 still I think.


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Back in the 1960s, I believe a DC subsidiary
controlled distribution of most comic books -- DC, Marvel,
Charlton, Archie, Gold Key, Dell, Harvey, Tower, etc. Not
sure about Classics Illustrated.<br><br>At least this
was the case locally & in my region<br>of
Va.<br><br>Comics came out every Tuesday & Thursday.<br>I checked
the new comics every Tuesday & Thursday.<br>Even when
school was out for snow days.<br><br>Up to the
mid-1960s, DC had been #1.<br><br>Then Marvel came up from
nowhere to #1.<br><br>And sales of DC comics started
dropping.<br>DC comics got silly, bland, and DC management was
stodgy. For example, DC put "go-go checks" on covers in
an attempt to make their comics appear more
'with-it' / groovy.<br><br>And with Dick Giordano as editor
of Charlton's Action Hero line, Charlton was
becoming WAY more<br>popular (at least with super hero
comic fans) than Charlton had ever been
before.<br><br>(At that point Charlton did have technical problems
-- horrible printing presses that often left black
splodges on comic pages. Also machine
lettering.)<br><br>Anyway, I collected most of the Charlton Action Hero
comics until ... the local / regional distributor quit
distributing them.<br><br>To this day I believe that the local
DC-affiliated distributor quit distributing Charlton comics
because DC didn't want the competition.<br><br>To keep my
collections going, I had to buy via mail from fans
elsewhere.<br><br>A few months later, Charlton dropped its Action
Hero line & the local DC-affiliated distributor
started distributing Charlton comics again.<br><br>And of
course, the cream of Charlton's Action Hero line talent
moved to DC -- Dick Giordano, Ditko, Aparo, McLaughlin,
etc.<br><br>Best, <br>Bob Stump


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...( I coun' directly access your " RIP " message
to reply it - ) Today ( Friday )'s " LA Times "
<br>( paper , national edition . ) has a memorial for
Adams by one Glenn Gaslin - it's interesting . As I
said , I never read D.A. myself...I assume anybody
here can find the L.A.T.'s Web ( or , gasp! - find a
paper copy ! ) easily enuff , so...


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...You meann Joe Schuster ? I wasn't aware of
anything he did post-Superman ( He was legally blind ,
remember . ) except for the I've-never-read-it Funnyman (
Which wasn't C. ? ) , which isn't to say , obviously ,
that there...<br> I...semi!...-liked Jerry Grandetti (
sic ? ) , and I've talked about it ( as
Waltsland-1999 ) <br>cver at the Dell/Gold Key Club , here in
America's Internet Company That May Actually Make A
Pofit!...someday .


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Bear in mind that some of us ain't
whippersnappers, I'll bear in mind that people like art for a lot
of reasons. Why I have a friend of 30+ years who
doesn't like Steve Ditko or Gil Kane art-event though he
grew up reading Spider-Man, Thunder Agents, Captain
Atom, Green Lantern, and The Atom just like me. I am
reminded of a review of one of Frank Frazetta's
collections I read once: the reviewer hated the over-endowed,
heavy-hipped, china-doll-like women, and the slab-muscled,
overly rugged men in the paintings. Those are some of
the things I LIKE about Frazetta art.


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I am a big fan of Jerry Grandinetti! He has a
wonderful moody style, which I must confess I didn't
connect with when I was a kid, but love now. <br><br>But
you sell Tony Tallarico short Bee Ess. I admit he has
a somewhat tepid character design, but I find his
work has a great sense of motion to it that I find
irresistable. <br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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PAM did a few, but likely you are thinking of
Gunmaster and his faithful sidekick Bullet Boy. They were a
western version of Batman and Robin. The funniest detail
about Bullet Boy was that his "real" name was Tellub.
No one will figure that out.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Looks like bullet spelled backwards to me. I also
grew up reading Zatanna's search for Zatara(Elbbub,
elbbulb, liot dna elbuort), reinforced by reading reprints
of The Shadow (NOT the hideous blue and yellow
garbed atrocity).<br>Now the question is, WHY would
anyone name their kid Tellub?


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&gt;PAM did a few, but likely you are thinking of
<br><br>I'm only aware of PAM doing the one masked western
hero for Charlton. <br><br>&gt;Gunmaster and his
faithful sidekick Bullet Boy. <br><br>I don't remember PAM
drawing Gunmaster.<br>I seem to remember that my
unfavorite SA artist Tony Tallarico did Gunmaster.


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&gt;...You meann Joe Schuster ? I wasn't aware of
&gt;anything he did post-Superman ( He was legally &gt;blind ,
remember . ) except for the I've-never-&gt;read-it
Funnyman ( Which wasn't C. ? ) <br><br>Somebody signed
"Schuster" to<br>a sci fi story in a Charlton comic that I
have had. I'll try to find the story & scan the signed
page.<br><br>& I have read Funnyman -- back in the 1970s
when<br>GA comics weren't hard to find at comic conventions
& prices weren't so high.


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&gt;Bear in mind that some of us ain't
<br>&gt;whippersnappers<br><br>I like to tease. & I probably am the oldest poster
here.<br><br>&gt;Why I have a friend of 30+ years who doesn't &gt;like
Steve Ditko<br><br>In my opinion, much of Ditko's work
post-1960s is hackish. Most older comic artists seem to draw
less & less from life, & draw more & more from their
previously developed cartooning shorthand.<br><br>&gt;review
of one of Frank Frazetta's collections I &gt;read
once: the reviewer hated the over-endowed,
&gt;heavy-hipped, china-doll-like women<br><br>Maybe the reviewer
prefers Callista Flockhart type rail-thin women.
&lt;grin&gt; Not me!


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I would have to check, but I'm sure PAM did at least one issue of Gunmaster. I have had that one for a long time. As for Tallarico,you're right he did much of the early run.<br><br>Dean


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Ditko's work since the '60s hasn't been as good
as it was before; the same can be said of a lot of
artists. Some of what you term Cartooning shorthand is
probably the realization that in some cases less is more:
you strip the art of non-essentials and it is
improved by it. The danger is that you don't see when less
is less. I started reading comics when I leaned how
to read (around 1961), so I missed a lot of the
stuff before that (except what was reprinted in annuals
and 80-page giants-I miss them). I've seen reprints
of some stories from earlier times, and I
wonder...<br>Russ Heath's style doesn't seem to have changed
appreciable since the '50s. Is this a good thing or a bad
thing? Gil Kane's style remained recognizable apparently
from the 50's on. In the '60s, it loosened up and
became quite dynamic. It changed little after that. Art
by Joe Kubert, Wally Wood, Curt Swan, Murphy
Anderson, Russ Manning, Alex Toth, even Jack Kirby looked
the same from the late '60s on. Is this stagnation or
is it a case of reaching perfection?<br>Ditko was
usually his own best inker (the prime exception being
Wally Wood-I just re-read some Thunder Agents with some
stories where they teamed up) and no-one they have teamed
him with lately (lately? 25 years?) seems to be able
to produce same effect as pure Ditko art in its
prime.<br>I never liked Pat Boyette, but I got used to him. I
never liked Sanho Kim, and never got used to him,
either. Some artists just seemed to flourish on a series,
while others... <br>I've seen a "Dr. Drew" reprint by
Jerry Grandinetti. I really liked it. The more I
shuffle through old memories the more I begin to believe
I've seen other Grandinetti reprints from the late
'50s-early '60s that were good. Sort of like reading
reprints of early issues of The Avengers and realizing
that once upon a time Don Heck could draw (even though
I originally bought those issues off the rack).
Maybe I'm doing Grandinetti a disservice, but I never
bought Prez because I couldn't stand the thought of
looking at his artwork while trying to read the story.


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...Mebbe 'cuz they conceived their kid in the
back row of the balcony ( predated drive-ins , 'member
. ) of " Son Of Dracula " , w/Lon Yenahc
?????????<br> Re Grandanetti ( sic ? ) , once I realized that
he'd drawn some of my favorite post-Dub Dub Spirit
stories ( Granted , under Eisner's supervision/over his
layouts , I suppose . )...


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Subject: CDC
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I'm new to the club, and just wanted to say hey
to everyone.<br>I also had a question that is
probably obvious to most of you.<br>On the upperleft
corner of my 1960's Charlton's is the logo on top of a
red field. The letters in the logo are "CDC". Inside
the front cover in the copyright bar, the company is
reffered to Charlton Comics Group. What exactly does "CDC"
stand for then?<br>Charlton, Derby
Connecticut?<br><br>Thanks.


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...Distribution Company ? I THINK .


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It stands for Capitol Distribution Company, I
believe. And, a former comic magazine editor told me there
is some question as to whether that company actually
was Charlton or another company predating Charlton
(possibly a sister company or a separate distribution
company?). And was the CDC logo in the corner modeled after
Atlas's old logo? There was some question about that,
too, I was told.<br>Michael Browning


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&gt;And was the CDC logo in the corner modeled
after Atlas's old logo? There was some question about
that, too, I was told.&lt;<br><br>As a kid buying CDC
comics (I bought Space Adventures with Captain Atom when
it came out), I figured that the CDC circle logo was
designed to be confused with the DC circle
logo.<br><br>DC. CDC.


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I've been too busy to stoip by lately and jeez!
Do I ever feel like adding my two cents worth---but
time is short, alas! I'll post in a few days but for
now, I just have to say you're all wrong! (Just
kidding. <br><br>Thought I'd get a rise out of some of
you. You felt the adrenelin rising, didn't you? Admit
it!)


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Of course we're wrong... but about what?


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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:23:39 -0700
Subject: Unpublished cover BB#6
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I noticed in the "links" section of this club
there is a link that says it has an unpublished cover
of Blue Beetle #6 <br>&lt;
<a href=http://www.homeroom1.com/spotpix/bluebeetle.gif&gt; target=new>http://www.homeroom1.com/spotpix/bluebeetle.gif&gt;</a> posted by sonofvulcan.<br>Unfortunately the link
doesn't seem to be working.<br>Does anyone know where I
can find that image or if you have it on your system,
could you post it in the "photos" section. I'd really
love to see it.<br><br>Thanks!


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I'm sorry the link is broken. I don't immediately
know of a place on the net to see this image. I think
the picture may well be in the Comic Book Artist
issue dedicated to the Action Heroes from last summer.
I haven't checked that though.<br><br>Dean


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Thanks!<br>Do you think Ditko actually did a copmplete issue #6 that was unpublished!?!<br>That would be awesome to see if it exists...


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Head on over to the photos link if you care to see another great Ditko cover. Look under the Captain Atom Covers link. <br><br>Enjoy!


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I was so inspired by purchasing Captain Atom #87
and posting it, that I did an illutration of the
atomic cold war hero. Check it out in the "photos" link
under the "original club members artwork" link.


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...Wasn't that the story that was published in the <br> first ( fanzine ) <br>issue of Charlton Bullseye ?????


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Who published the Charlton Bullseye fanzine when was it published and how could I obtain a copy of it?


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The first Charlton Bullseye (not this one and not
the one later published as a comic by Charlton
itself) was a fanzine done by the CPL Gang. CPL stood for
Contemporary Pictoral Literature and the core of that little
team were Bob Layton, Roger Stern, John Byrne, and I
belive Duffy Vohland. They did this magazine fanzine
one-shot on their own and were contacted by Charlton to do
it for them regularly as a way of tapping the fan
base. They are filled with fine features and I don't
know where you might get one save at back issue
outlets. They are very much in demand these days. One
place you can see a lot of the artwork and read up on
them is Comic Book Artist. This magazine has done two
Charlton-theme issues in the last year and both feature stuff
from the early Bullseyes. The CPL Gang members are
interviewed in the latest one which came out just this
spring. There are links in our link section to get you to
TwoMorrows Publications which does these fine
magazines.<br><br>Dean


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Thanks!


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Didn't Don Rosa of Disney Ducks fame help out the CPL Gang? Or was he part of the gang? And was Charlton Portfolio pre-Bullseye?<br>Michael Browning


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The Portfolio is indeed the work that impressed
the guys at Charlton to bring the CPL Gang on to do
the regular fanzine. <br><br>I haven't heard of
Rosa's name in connection with the Gang. I think Rosa
got his start in my home state of Kentucky in
Louisville with his own independent comics and whatnot. I
well remember some Captain Kentucky comics by Rosa
that I chanced upon back in the 80's well before he
started his Duck work.<br><br>But I would have to check
all that to verify it. I am lucky enough to have the
Portfolio, and a few issues of the Bullseye, though sadly I
don't have them all. Whenever I see something like this
I tend to jump all over it. I had no idea of the
Portfolio's significance when I bought it many years ago.
<br><br>Dean


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Don Rosa did indeed contribute to the early CPL
Gang publications, as noted in the credits on the
inside front cover of the Charlton Portfolio. He is
listed as a contributor for the checklist near the end
of the issue.<br>Michael Browning


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I picked up a strange portfolio piece last year
and do not know from where it came. It is a Captain
Atom piece by Vincent Marchesano and was done in 1971.
It's smaller than a comic, and has Capt. Atom done in
yellow, black and orange (his skin, hands and boots are
orange), and an orange and black background showing a man
working on a nuclear reactor (or so it appears). It's
rather artsy and is a very nice piece. I've never seen
anything like it before, especially from Charlton. The guy
I bought it from said it came from one of the comic
cons of the early 1970s. I bought it with a Frazetta
portfolio piece that he said he also bought from a comic
con, maybe in Detroit. The Capt. Atom piece is awesome
and I'd like to have the rest of the portfolio -- if
there was a portfolio!<br>Michael Browning


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Thanks for the correction Michael. I'll have to check my stuff more closely next time. <br><br>Dean


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I just saw a message about this club at
"www.deepwoods.org" so needless to say I am a Phantom
"phan".<br><br>While I have never read ANY Charlton books I always
found the DC versions the action interesting. Well
maybe not really the DC versions...but the concepts and
since I have only read the DC ones.<br><br>I first
encountered Blue Beetle in the DC-mini LEGENDS and since then
I have found he to be one of the most interesting
costumed crime fighters around.<br><br>Can any one
post/send me some scans of Jim Aparo Phantom art. Aparo has
always been a favorite artist of mine. It would be soooo
neat to see how he did the Ghost Who Walks.<br><br>I
think some of you guys should keep your eyes on the
Scandinavian/Australian Phantom book. Quite a few American creators are
to do work there. Writer and former Marvel editor
Ben Raab writes stories and artist Paul Ryan (Flash,
Fantastic Four, and Superman) and Don Perlin (Ghost Rider,
Defenders) will handle the art later this year.<br><br>There
is also a creator with a Charlton connection showing
up. But I will not say more.


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Sorry I don't know of any locations on the net
featuring Aparo's Phantom (though someone else here might
well) but I can put you onto a great interview with Jim
Aparo which is from Comic Book Artist. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09aparo.html target=new>http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09aparo.html</a><br><br>Good Luck and Welcome!<br><br>Dean


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...I assume it was my " plug " you saw , I'm
Walter L. I read some of the Swedish material when Wolf
Publishing's British Phantom comic was out , in the early 90s
. Though I knew the Phantom , I'd never
particularly read him , <br>until the DC series . I did , at
the time , think that the Swedish material in th Wolf
title had a <br>little bit " bland " English in the
dialogue/captions , it seemed , as if written to be understood
without much difficulty/for easy translation...Perhaps
I'm overly used to the jokey/wisecracky
dialogue/vernacular that many DC/Marvel comics tend to somewhat use (
how do they translate ? ) , and , of course , I'm a
typically under-educated in non-English languages American
( I've got more of an excuse than most , I might
say ,since my schooling/formal education's been
somewhat lacking ! ) .<br> That story that was plugged (
at the DW site ) <br>as being in the latest issue of
the Aussie Frew<br> Phantom comic , a "
non-continuity/<br>Imaginary Tale " about a " Prodigal Son " , of the Phantom
line , sounds interesting .


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Yep, it was your plug that I saw.
<br><br>&gt;&gt;I did , at the time , think that the Swedish
material in the Wolf title had a little bit " bland "
English in the dialogue/captions , it seemed , as if
written to be understood without much difficulty/for easy
translation...Perhaps I'm overly used to the jokey/wisecracky
dialogue/vernacular that many DC/Marvel comics tend to somewhat use (
how do they translate ? )&lt;&lt;<br><br>The Swedish
produced material do indeed read a bit different form
Marvel & DC stuff. I know that the editor of the Swedish
Phantom stuff does his material with 7-10 year old boys
in mind.... since they are the main audience. They
are trying to keep it simple. During the 90's I lived
mostly in the US and the UK and in so did not read much
Phantom stuff. Then when I was back in Sweden it took me
a few issues to get into the way they are written.
The same goes for French comics. I do not speak that
language but (so I read Swedish or English translations)
and that too took a while to get into.<br><br>The
Prodigal son sure was an interesting read. It featured a
story about a Phantom to be, that rebelled against his
father and joined the Sing Brotherhood...and caused his
fathers death.<br><br>Now that there is an "American
invasion" in the Swedish/ Australian Phantom comic one can
not stop from comparing it to the "British invasion"
in American comics.<br><br>Once one compares them,
the "key" to the current "is English writers better
then Americans" discussion solved.... kind
of...<br><br>It would be interesting having some coments from an
American or two that had read a bunch of
Swedish/Austra´lian Phantom comics.<br><br>Over the the Charlton
Action Heroes:<br>Why does not DC do anything with them?
Here is an idea that I have had for a while. Move them
to their "own" City in the DCU called Charlton
City.<br>Reasons:<br>A.) People are ALWAYS referring to them as Charlton
heroes.<br>B.) Giving them their own corner of the DCU would
make them feel more generic. This way one can still
use bad guys like The Joker and still give them a
distance to DC's classic heroes like JLA, The Titans
etc.<br><br>Maybe start of with an 5th week event were Charlton
City is established and then start 3 or 4 new books,
and calling this line "Action Heroes". Maybe even
have back-ups starring some of the guys who does not
have their own tittle.<br>What do you guys
think?<br><br>PS-Thanks for the Aparo interview link.


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Back in the sixties in my home town the new
comics stores carried everything but Charlton and IW
reprints. These I bought at stores that sold old comics for
a nickel; each(the good ole days!). If DC
controlled distribution I imagine Charlton comics would have
been available on newstands in Middletown.


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When I tried to check out the weird and offensive covers album, all I saw were plugs for a web site called Crosswinds.com.  What gives?


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Sorry about that. I linked up those images a long
time ago, and at the time there was not a problem with
getting access to the Tubman site, but that seems to have
changed.<br><br>I'll go in and delete the album. Thanks for the heads
up.<br><br>Dean


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...Were they " five-and-dime "/cheapo stores ? I
assume you're saying that new Charltons and IWs <br>(
Perhaps marked " old " ? Were they sold with covers
stripped ? Did the stores also sell DC , etc. , for 5c ? )
were 5c ? I've asked , having read about it elsewhere
, <br>about this apparent " C.s sold <br>for less
than cover " pattern . I've always been fascinated by
IW-Super , but I've never had any - I believe they were
designed to be sold in cheapo stores , not newsstands -
Since I think they <br>( At least in some cases . )
were unauthorized reprint of others' copyrights ,
simply based on Waldman having come into posession of
some old printing plates of the stories featured , it
behooved him to sorta stay " on the DL " , as we <br>say
today !!!!!!!


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&gt;Back in the sixties in my home town the new
comics stores carried everything but Charlton and IW
reprints. These I bought at stores that sold old comics for
a nickel; each(the good ole days!). If DC
controlled distribution I imagine Charlton comics would have
been available on newstands in Middletown.
&lt;<br><br>I don't think I ever saw Super / IW reprints on
newstands either. I got a few IWs in 3-for-a-quarter comic
bags & got others in trade. Most but not all of the IW
reprints were pretty lousy.<br><br>I got Charlton (and
earlier CDC) comics on newstands.<br><br>In the 1960s in
the Hopewell / Petersburg / Richmond VA area, one
company distributed most if not all comics. (I'm not sure
about Classics Illustrated distribution.) I know
firsthand re Hopewell because I checked comics EVERY Tue. &
Thur., the days new comics came out. In later years, I
occasionally checked at Clay Book Store on Hull St. in
Richmond with other local comic fans. <br><br>Also,
locally, comic books were distributed with
magazines.<br><br>When I started having trouble finding Charlton comics,
I checked in vain at EVERY STORE that carried
comicbooks in town!<br><br>I'm pretty sure too that the same
distribution company was affiliated with the company that
bagged unsold comics & sold 'em at 3 per
quarter.<br><br>I found the first 6 issues of X-Men in comic
bags!<br>I don't know if Marvels weren't selling so
well<br>or if maybe the DC-affiliated distribution co.
didn't distribute the X-Men comics as more dirty
business.<br><br>It's a dog-eat-dog world.<br><br>Much has been made re
Charlton's Italian founder being mob-affiliated -- &
pro-Mussolini. <br><br>I'm sure DC wasn't above dirty tricks.
After all,<br>Donenfeld & Lebowitz did virtually steal
Superman from teenagers Siegel & Shuster.<br><br>Bob


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&gt;...Were they " five-and-dime "/cheapo stores
? I assume you're saying that new Charltons and IWs
<br>( Perhaps marked " old " ? Were they sold with
covers stripped ? &lt;<br><br>I believe I got some of
the 3 per quarter comic bags at 7-11.<br><br>The
comics in the comic bags were full cover &
unmarked.<br><br>As a kid, occasionally I did find 5 cent
comics,<br>sometimes used & sometimes with 3/4th cover.<br><br>I still
have a 3/4th cover Dell Tarzan from circa 1948. Comic
retailers stripped the cover title off unsold comics & got
refunded by returning that top 1/4 of the covers. The
retailers were supposed to throw away the 3/4th cover
comics but a lot of 'em were sold cheap.<br><br>&gt;( At
least in some cases . ) were unauthorized reprint of
others' copyrights , simply based on Waldman having come
into posession of some old printing plates of the
stories featured , it behooved him to sorta stay " on the
DL " , as we <br>say today !!!!!!!
&lt;<br><br>IW-Super comics were meant to make a quick
buck<br>recycling old stuff. Wasn't Waldman a Hassidic
Jew?<br><br>I got IW comics in comic bags. I don't remember
whether I got any 1960s DCs in comic bags.<br><br>Among
the better IW reprints was a Quality PlasticMan and a
Police Comic (with PlasticMan & Spirit). I also remember
an IW with Wally Wood art & another with Joe Kubert
art. <br><br>The Wood story I most remember was a
really creepy story about a radioactive asteroid
&<br>its space pirate inhabitants. It was corny &
unbelievable by current standards but it really scared me as a
kid.<br><br>Like Charlton comics (especially late 1960s Charlton
comics), the IW-Super reprints were often printed
off-register.


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Unless you had a local distributor who didn't
care about the comics. Comics were considered marginal
items at best, and they were often distributed...
eratically isn't the right word... perversely? What I mean
is that, the guy on the truck looked at an order
that said "100 funny books" and give the outlet 100
funny books. He didn't care if all 100 were DC,
Charlton, Marvel, Gold Key, AGC, Atlas, Standard, Fox, or a
mix. He actually didn't care if all 100 funny books
were the SAME TITLE. After I got a car, I discovered
just how bizarre the distribution practices were. Once
I couldn't find a particualr issue of Warlock (the
one with the solo adventure of Pip the Troll). I had
six convenience stores or drug stores in the area,
and none of them got it. I was working several miles
away, and after work checked out a Seven-Eleven. Almost
one entire side of the spin rack was filled with
copies of that issue of Warlock. If I had been thinking,
I'd have bought up a bunch of them. As it was, I got
one for me and a couple of others for friends who had
been looking for it too.<br>Also, if you are in a
smaller city near a bigger city that is the home of the
distributor, you may find that the stores in the bigger city
get preferential treatment. This means that the
further away from the distribution center you are, the
less chance you have of getting books. In addition,
the stores that did the highest volume got
perferential treatment, so that if anyone got shorted on their
order, it was the smaller stores in the suburbs.<br>I
already know that today bigger markets get preferential
treatment over smaller markets, so if someone in NYC orders
an extra 100 copies of "Wolfe and Byrd, Councellors
of the Macabre", I stand a chance of missing it.


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I remember getting some of what I guess were IW
comics at the local TG&Y. I remember The Spirit, Jack
Kirby's Bullseye, a jungle princess-thing that might have
been Sheena, and and issue of Torchy. I never saw the
Plastic Man. Drat!


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...Waldman's first name was Israel , so...As for
being a Hasid , never heard/don't doubt .<br>
Charlton/" da boys "...The first I'd heard of that was the
CBA Charlton history , & you're the first I've heard
re: Mussolini . <br> There was something of a
tendency for magazine distributors ( Leaving Charlton out
of this , since they self-distributed , ) to be
Mob-connected , I am told ! " Retoins ? What retoins ? " Well ,
anyway , maybe they kept...the shipping dates on time
!<br> They never had old comic bags/cheapo sales of
comics in Westchester County , where I grew up .<br>As
I've mentioned , Gold Keys ( logo'd Whitman ) <br>were
sold for basically full price ( 3 20c issues 57c ) in
bags , only humor titles , no particular pattern
otherwise , you had to try 'n finger th'<br>upper corner of
the comic<br> - re - ea -ll ca - re - fully - <br>to
maybe get some ideer of what th'<br>center one was !
Only in ( Generally pretty forlorn . ) toy
stores/departments/drugstores' coloring/kiddie book rack(s) , never places that
carried comics otherwise .


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Some were mom and pop stores and some were thrift
stores. The Salvation Arrmy store had a big box of old
golden and atomic books for fawcett, quality atlas dc
and many others. The mom and pops nad more recent
back issues including charlton and IW. Some had
stripped covers'some full covers. The mom and pop stores
also bought comics from kids for three cents each.
Hey, after all how much could old funny books be
worth. It wasn't like anyone would want to read them
twenty years from now:)


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I just , lasttimeiwenttomycomicsshop , gottabuncha ACG thingies...most w/some Charlton stuff included ! More.........later !!!!!!!


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I was looking at some of these things just
yesterday. They are pretty packages but the prices for a B&W
package (of average quality)are a bit steep. They are
tempting though, but so far I have resisted. I'll be
anxious to hear what you find.<br><br>Dean


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And speaking of paying too much for a comic, I
did it the other day myself. <br><br>I found a copy
of Charlton Premiere #19 (Volume 1) and picked it
up. I had never seen this comic before and only was
dimly aware of it. Seems in another of Charlton's
wonderful numbering decisions they transformed "War Marine
Heroes" into this one-time comic. The insides were just
like most other Charlton war comics. The only thing
setting this comic apart was the distinctive "Charlton
Premiere" logo which would grace a Volume 2 a few months
later. There would be four issues of that volume and
they featured among others such well-remembered
stories as Spookman (Boyette at his best), Children of
Doom,<br> and Sinistro the Boy Fiend.<br><br>The comic
isn't much in itself, but it is an interesting
transitional book as Charlton attempted to redefine itself in
the late 60's.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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If you zare talking about the ACG reprints, I've
gotten seveal of them. As for being overpriced, arent
ALL comic books overpriced these days?<br>I've
enjoyed Star Hawks, The Green Berets, and one or two
other odd issues (Including a version of "Destination:
Moon"). They've reprinted some comics that Eternity did
ten years or so ago (newspaper strips of The Shadow,
Sherlock Holmes, and Charlie Chan). I've got a war comic
reprint with nice Ditko/Wood art, I ordered but never
recieved Jungle Jim with either Ditko or Wood art (maybe
both). I got a Gorgo reprint, but don't remember if it
was from ACG or not.<br>Their publication schedule
and their distribution leave a LOT to be desired.


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...The Shadow stuff ( Pulp Comics ) would appear
to be on a public domain basis...perhaps Street &
Smith/Conde Nast ( Best known for Anglophiliac <br>" style
"/fashion mags now , ) let the syndie strips , from the
30s/40s , slip somewhere , since th' Shad's otherwise
very much copyrighted...I THINK that Giacoa Sherlock
Holmes strip was copyrighted...?...Is Sherlock the
character ?<br>The various versions of Terry/Pirates and
Dick Tracy are still very much Tribune Media
Services'<br>property...Must go !


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...That Green Bererts thing , I seem to
remember...Blackthorne ?...doing...color?...<br>reprints , during the
Eighties ? A lotta stuff's been reprinted a lot , even
just during the <br>" fan "/comic-shop market's years
. ( 70s on . )


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...Gorgo Gets Syndicated !...the movie turned up
, t'other weekend , on this syndicated show called
<br>" Off-Beat Cinema " that comes in on a San Jose
station that<br>I only get because I don't get cable !
The show shows ( Generally , ) black and white movies
, with " beatnik " schitcky hosts , also shot in
black and white...We also get stuff ( This in color . )
about<br>the Buffalo , N.Y. music scene/local bands !!!!!<br>(
The show is made there . ) Nice that something from a
smaller market can<br>get syndicated , I guess . More
later !!!!!!!!!


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Let me add my 2 cents worth here, since I've been
trying to track down these "new" ACG comics in my area.
Just today I got "Star Western" #4 which must have
just been published...billed on the cover as "Clayton
Moore Issue" though I don't see why except for a two
page text article in the middle. This is quite a bit
thicker than the usual ACG comics so far, with a higher
price ($5.95). It has a Masked Raider strip with art by
PAM, 2 Gunmaster and Bulletboy strips (darn nice art),
a good looking strip titled "The War Criminal of
Abilene", "Famous Western Lawmen" (1 page strip),"The Lone
Ranger Creed" (text) by Fran Striker, and 3 "Hooded
Horseman" strips. <br>I also got a square-bound collection
of sf/horror stories, including a "Herbie" story. It
looks to be about 50-75 pages (I ain't gonna count 'em)
for $9.95--all ACG (the REAL ACg from the 60s) and
Charlton reprints. I also got for $2.95 the 3rd issue of
"Johnny Comet"--Frazetta's strip.<br>These are all new, I
believe. So I take it as a good sign that the company is
still in business.<br>By the way, Ken Pierce Books
(check his web page) sells back issues, though he
charges about four or five bucks! (I'm all for a guy
making a buck, but these comics are rather badly printed
and not worth that! You can buy the original comics
cheaper.)<br>Also seen--but VERY poorly printed--Dragon Lady
sequences from Terry for $9.95, also a very thick book. Let
me note, mostly the art is printed very nicely,
though, as in the western book described
above.<br>Whether this all is too pricey depends on one's taste...a
lot of it is, such as the badly printed Dick Tracy
reprints he puts out. Better quality is available
elsewhere. But, for 3 bucks, where else you gonna get nice
Charlton and ACG stories these days? The fan press doesn't
like 'em so it's not like you'll get a neat coffee
table book of these stories. At least this guy offers
oddities like Miss Fury, Basil Wolverton stories, Johnny
Comet, and so on. That's worth an occassional three
bucks to me.


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In my repoly to Walt I mentioned Ken Pierce books
and then I decided I should expand on that. Pierce
has been offering very nicely printed collections of
strips of all kinds since the late 70s and I recommend
his books, for the most part. They are a bit costly,
but he has usually printed them in a great format. I
visited his web page and he seems to by selling a lot of
other publishers' books these days, such as Bill
Black's reprint books (AC Comics--check out THAT web page
too) and the ACG stuff.<br>There's plenty of variety
offered and most of you will find something worth having.
Personally I recommend the Alley Oop books, Axa, Modesty
Blaise, and some of the old strips like Smokey Stover and
Betty Boop. Hop over to his web page and see for
yourself.


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Let me add my 2 cents worth here, since I've been
trying to track down these "new" ACG comics in my area.
Just today I got "Star Western" #4 which must have
just been published...billed on the cover as "Clayton
Moore Issue" though I don't see why except for a two
page text article in the middle. This is quite a bit
thicker than the usual ACG comics so far, with a higher
price ($5.95). It has a Masked Raider strip with art by
PAM, 2 Gunmaster and Bulletboy strips (darn nice art),
a good looking strip titled "The War Criminal of
Abilene", "Famous Western Lawmen" (1 page strip),"The Lone
Ranger Creed" (text) by Fran Striker, and 3 "Hooded
Horseman" strips. <br>I also got a square-bound collection
of sf/horror stories, including a "Herbie" story. It
looks to be about 50-75 pages (I ain't gonna count 'em)
for $9.95--all ACG (the REAL ACg from the 60s) and
Charlton reprints. I also got for $2.95 the 3rd issue of
"Johnny Comet"--Frazetta's strip.<br>These are all new, I
believe. So I take it as a good sign that the company is
still in business.<br>By the way, Ken Pierce Books
(check his web page) sells back issues, though he
charges about four or five bucks! (I'm all for a guy
making a buck, but these comics are rather badly printed
and not worth that! You can buy the original comics
cheaper.)<br>Also seen--but VERY poorly printed--Dragon Lady
sequences from Terry for $9.95, also a very thick book. Let
me note, mostly the art is printed very nicely,
though, as in the western book described
above.<br>Whether this all is too pricey depends on one's taste...a
lot of it is, such as the badly printed Dick Tracy
reprints he puts out. Better quality is available
elsewhere. But, for 3 bucks, where else you gonna get nice
Charlton and ACG stories these days? The fan press doesn't
like 'em so it's not like you'll get a neat coffee
table book of these stories. At least this guy offers
oddities like Miss Fury, Basil Wolverton stories, Johnny
Comet, and so on. That's worth an occassional three
bucks to me.


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...I think we have the same square-bounds
???????<br>The TERRY's an " EC annual " style ( pseudo-?
)<br>rebinding of old comics , the " Touch Of Horror " ( 'Tis
th' 70s Chaltoons that , poisonally , rings MY bell ,
but , say...) is similar , but no interior covers ,
starting out with this - Willimson/Wood ? - story , that's
been reprinted numerous places previously , haven't
read whole thing yet...Both claim 2 B " limited
editions " of 600...By/way , EVERY , and I mean EVERY
inside front cover of the ACG comics format ones
advertise this Herb Jeffries comic . Was that ever
published ??????? The independent Dragon Lady #1 ,
apparently , had a Miss Fury reprint in back , but , my
book's got a 70s Charlton horror story .


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Comic Book Resources oddball feature today is
Charlton's Blue Beetle #1 by Ditko!<br>Check it out
@<br>&lt;<a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/&gt; target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/&gt;</a><br>Just can't get enough of that Ditko
stuff.<br>Enjoy!<br><br>Loran


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I tend to think Charlton's early to late 1970s
books are the best published by the company. Some of my
alltime favorite comics are 1970s Charltons. I'd like to
see some top 10 lists of what others think are
classic Charlton stories.<br>One of my classic picks is
the book-length Monster Hunters No. 9 with the Mike
Zeck werewolf story and that gorgeous cover. Another
is Doomsday+1 No. 2. I'll be posting my top 10 list
shortly, after I sort through some very good stories.
Anyone interested?<br>Michael Browning


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The Brave and the Bold 80-Page Giant is out. Not
bad, really. I had read all but the Newsboy
Legion/Sandman and Sandy team-up. The Green Arrow/J'onn J'onz
team-up puzzles me a bit continuity-wise (the old
continuity, not the new one), but is okay. <br>Why is this
here? The last story in the book is a
Nightshade/Captain Atom team-up. It is also the first appearance of
Punch and Jewlee.


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...Are you Swede ? Brit ? <br> Is that " Prodigal
" story set in another era ?<br>Does , as I assume
would be the case , the Prodigal repent , and take up
his cross/duty ? Does he apologize to Daddy Purple
before he croaks ? ( The Phantom's varying color schemes
can sure get confusing !!!!! )


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Does anyone know where that Nightshade/Captain
Atom story first appered? Was it in an issue of
Captain Atom (Charlton in the 60's I assume) or
eleswhere?<br>I loved seeing the "original" Captain Atom in
action again, I never have warmed up to the new DC
version.<br><br>-Loran


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A Swede I am indeed.<br>The Prodigal son does
indeed take place in another era. It does not say when
but I would guess late 1700 or early 1800. The
Prodigal son does repent, but he still carries the Sing
mark on his wrist. <br><br>...but he does NOT
apologize to daddy....since he never get a chance to talk
to him before he dies.


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<a href=http://www.deepwoods.org/charlton_index.html target=new>http://www.deepwoods.org/charlton_index.html</a><br><br>Here is an index and various info about the Charlton Phantom issues. <br>Maybe you guys would find it interesting...


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That Captain Atom story comes from issue #85 of
the run and is the second story after Cap adopted the
blue,red and silver costume (my favorite). The issue also
featured the second Ditko Blue Beetle story. There is a
Modern Comics reprint of this comic out there if you can
find it. <br><br>I concur on the DC version of Cap.
While I kind of liked him in Extreme Justice the
super-patriot Cap always struck me as a slap in the face to
those old stories. <br><br>Dean


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Thanks for the direct link. It is much appreciated.<br><br>Dean


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...Testing !!!!!!!


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...The 1st time I tried 2 post this <br>( As
Waltsland ? ) I couldn't , so...<br> Thank you for the info
. A late 1700s Phant. might have to be worked
around the 1776 Phantom of the last Charlton issue ,
which , I suppose , might've never been reprinted
anywhere ( And , may've been the only issue I ever bought
off the newsstand ! ) , given that it is kind of
special pleading for the U.S. - after all , the Phantom
is an African , right , really ?<br> I assume that "
Girl Phantom " is at least semi-official ? Did , say ,
in his paperback novels , Falk go into more detail
establishing the <br> various Phants. ? Of course , there's
the little real world/conflicting continuity fact
that there's only been one Phantom since the late
Thirties - with one Diana , whom he only married , &
started the " dropping-of-little-Phantoms " process ,
forty years after first taking up with her ! Ah ,
continuity...<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> EXTRA STUFF: Is the Mandrake strip still running
? Also , given my tip on the SF Chronicle site , is
there any Web source for the Phantom daily in black and
white ??????? ( These parts I added this time , they
weren't in the un-posted , first , posting . )


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The “old” Captain Atoms are indeed the best in my
book. <br><br>I'm fortunate enough to own Captain
Atom#75-80,83,84(Modern reprint),86 and 87. I was debating buying the
Brave and the Bold reprint, but I'd rather save my
money and get the real thing. Also, I just learned from
Blake Bell(of “Ditko Looked Up” web site fame) that the
last unpublished Captain Atom story (issue #90) was
printed in Charlton Bullseye#1-#2.<br><br>Thanks for the
info Dean.<br><br>Loran


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There has been 21 Phantoms. The first Phantom
came to Africa about the same time as the first
Europeans came to The Americas....so that would make him
very African indeed. I guess....<br><br>The
Scandinavian stories (gets reprinted in Australia a a month or
so later) has a cronology worked out with all
different Phantoms.<br>Here is a
link:<br><a href=http://Www.fantomen.com/family_tree/ target=new>http://Www.fantomen.com/family_tree/</a><br><br>It is all in Swedish....but here are a few key-words
and I think that, that can healp you read the diagram
without a problem.<br><br><br>Fantom nr.= Phantom
number<br><br>Levnads-år	= When he was alive<br><br>Tillträdde år	= Year he
became the phantom<br><br>Ålder	= His age as he became
the Phantom<br><br>År i tjänst	= Years in Phantom
service<br><br>Ålder vid frånfället	= Age at death<br><br>Gift med	=
Married to <br><br>Bandarhövding	= Bandar
chief<br><br>Husdjur	= Pet (all are horses exept Loki the
bird)<br><br>DP-Chef = Djungle Patrol chief<br><br>This link is from
the official Phantom site<br><br>The Phantom "17 B"
is Julie aka The Girl Phantom. She has appeared in
alteast one Lee Falk story. 4 Swedish Phantom stories and
a back-up in King Comics short lived Mandrake book.
I would say that she is very official.<br><br>The
"Swedish" Phantom has allways been very much a traveling
man. Africa is his HQ, but he operates all over the
world. One Phantom participated in the US civil war and
another one was involved in the French revolution (as
well as trying to stop the assasination of a Swedish
king).<br><br>The editor who has edited the Swedish Phantom book
was a good friend of Lee Falk. Not only buissnes but
they even went on vacation together. I think that Lee
falk was very aware of what was going on in the
Swedish book.<br><br>The Mandrake strip is still running.
I think both can be found at the King Features
site.


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Both Blue Beetle and Haunted Love have been
featured recently at Oddball. Here are some addresses
which will get you there (I hope):<br><br>Blue Beetle
#1<br><br><a href=http://comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-08 target=new>http://comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-08</a><br><br>Haunted Love
#5<br><br><a href=http://comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-05 target=new>http://comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-05</a><br><br>Good Luck and Enjoy!<br><br>Dean<br><br>P.S. I know
Loran tried to link up the Blue Beetle earlier but this
one should still be working.


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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:56:26 -0700
Subject: Bob Layton Interview At CBR!
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Bob Layton who of course is one of the guys
behind the Charlton Bullseye from the 70's and who
recently brought us The L.A.W. (DC's attempt to get some
mileage out of those great Charlton Action Heroes), has
an interview up right now at Comic Book Resources.
It is very informative and touches on a lot of
Charlton topics. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://comicbookresources.com/features/layton/ target=new>http://comicbookresources.com/features/layton/</a><br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Dean


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Subject: Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt
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Did anyone read the short-lived DC revival of
this character (12 issues, if I remember correctly). I
remember it being pretty cool, but DC never seems to push
the revived or purchased characters enough to make
them serious contenders (examples: The Ray, Black
Condor, Freedom Fighters, EVERY Charlton character,
etc...)<br><br>Anywho, is there anything on the net about this guy? Any
fanFiction at all? I miss reading good clean stories (ever
since Impact Comics died there's been a big
void....)<br><br>Anywho,<br><br>looking forward to some fun reading on this
club<br><br>Brad


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...Likewise , I read it , but my memory's
gone...the comics probably are , too...If you're not aware
of this , PAM now has it back , 100% , so , if
someone has some left-over dot-com dough , he ,
apparently , lives in Staten Island , New York , New York...


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...have been writing a Charlton fanfic , over at
the Earth 4 Starting over site , involving ( per the
sites' concept ) the Vengance Squad and Michael Mauser -
plus others - in the aftermath of the Crisis , which
left Earth-Charlton intact , bloodied but unbowed ,
'stead'a it being absorbed into Earth-DC , as in " our "
Earth .<br>Title's " Justice At The JV Mall " . It's
still in progress . Come over . Y'hear ?


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who the heck is PAM (who you say owns Thunderbolt
100%--you did say that, right?)<br><br>and since we're
plugging our fanfic, I have some really cool stories on
the Earth-4 site (check out the Dusty meets Blue
Beetle story--it's only 8 parts)<br><br>Brad


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...Pete A. Moseli - signed it so that it looked
more like " PAIII " , actually - the creator/only?
artist of the Charlton version and general Charlton
regular ! ( Do I have his last name 100% right ? ) He now
owns Thunderbolt - apparently , DC's acquiring of it
was semi-shady ,<br> and , either , perhaps for
conscience/Mr A./The Question on their tail , or thinking they
might lose a fight , after the series flopped , PAM got
it back 100% , according to the Moseli and Giordano
pieces in the CBA Charlton #1 issue ( Remember - a lot
of the 70s stuff ended up back w/their respective
creators . ) .


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Pete Morisi is the guy. Yes he does currently own
all the rights to Thunderbolt. DC leased the rights
when they did the ill-fated series. T-Bolt came over
with all the other Action Heroes back in the 80's but
I think soon thereafter PAM regained the rights.
You're right when you say it was kind of murky when the
rights were origianlly acquired from Charlton. That was
the reason Thunderbolt didn't participate in the
L.A.W. I don't think DC has been very nice about it, but
that could be scuttlebutt.<br><br>Dean


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Subject: Eh: Peter Cannon On The Barbie , Mate ??
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...From memory , and , reconstructing from memory
th' CBA #1 C. ish...Apparently , numerous of the C.
rights " passed to an Australian company " , P.C. did ,
anyway...Then , according to PAM , DC more or less said " nyahh
, nyahh , we've got more lawyers than you , so ,
you can't stop us , nyaah , nyahh "...while ,
Giordano said " I kind of took the blame as the bad
guy/verbally fell on the sword for DC screwing Pete " , but ,
obviously ,PAIII somehow got it back...maybe there's
something to be said for those Mafia stories ! Myself , I
remember DC talking about " ...there's a new PCT origin
that maybe we'll publish in a SECRET ORIGINS special
oneday " and me wanting to see it ! ( It's , apparently
, th' M-'ster's , once , again . ) Remember ,
Charlton let their copyrights go in stages , I guess .
Wasn't First's/whoever's version of E-Man doing well in
'84 , or even '83...And , C. musta sold BB , CA ,
etc. , by late '83 , at th' latest...?...But , C. kept
crawling along at least as late as 1986 cover<br> dates ,
'member ?????


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The way I always understood the E-Man deal was
that First bought them and then Joe Staton worked on
the book with some kind of deal where the rights
slowly reverted to him. By the end of the process he did
indeed have the full rights to the character and retains
them to this day. It is possible that he has shared
them with Nick Cuti, but I don't think that is the
case.<br><br>Dean


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...New to me . Sounds good . E-Man appeared elsewhere later , so...


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Joe Staton does indeed own the rights to E-Man
and the comic was published by First and later
Comico. Refer to the Charlton issues of Comic Book Artist
for the full story. I think issue 12 has an interview
with Staton and another with Nick Cuti.<br>Michael
Browning


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In addition to the Comico issues there have been a few B&W comics featuring E-Man and Nova by the team supreme (Cuti and Staton) put out by Alpha Comics. <br><br>Dean


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Welcome Hassle72 to the Bullseye. Feel free to
participate in the conversation and by all means let us know
what aspect of the Charlton dynasty most intersts
you.<br><br>Wecome Again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br><br>Dean


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That's sure an intriguing club picture you've picked out Doc. What's the source? <br><br>Dean


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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:53:08 -0700
Subject: Hercules #3 & More, More, More!!!!!!
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I have completed perhaps my most important
Charlton collection. When I first started collecting
comics, I read Flash from DC, Captain Marvel and Hulk
from Marvel, and Hercules by Sam Glanzman by Charlton.
I started the series with issue #4. Over the years
I have the few back issues I needed except for #3.
Charlton did a reprint series and so I've had the actual
story for some time, but just yesterday I was fortunate
enough to find a near pristine copy of #3. Now my
Hercules collection is complete! <br><br>There was in fact
a complete run of the Hercules series as well as
many other Charlton series. They were without question
the cleanest,best looking Charlton comics I have ever
seen. Not a one seem to have a single blemish and the
spines were in near perfect order. E-Man, Judomaster,
Thunderbolt, Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, and Fightin' 5 were all
sitting in boxes in absolutely wonderful condition. The
prices unfortunately were reflective of the great
condition and consequently I won't be bringing many of
these babies home. But it was very cool to see Charlton
comics in near new condition. Rare treat
indeed!<br><br>Kaji (Flippin') Dha!<br><br>Dean


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Just me getting a bit "artistic" with a picture of old "No-Face"...;)<br><br>Oh well, it's better than a painting of a Campbell Soup can, isn't it?;)<br><br>Doc


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Is there anyone out there who has a list of all
the John Byrne Charlton art? I'd love to see one so
that I can work on putting together a collection of
his stuff. Can anyone help me?<br>Michael Browning


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I imagine I have most of his work, if not all of
it. But I haven't ever sat down and created a list of
it all. Let me see what I can come up with. Likely
there are some pieces I don't have and will learn about
in this process.<br><br>Dean


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I had a flash, and maybe saved myself some work
Michael. The John Byrne Fan Club has a checklist of his
work and has it divided by company. The Charlton work
is segregated out and is the fourth grouping in the
Checklist secion (after Marvel, DC & Dark Horse). The
address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.acc.umu.se/~alpha/byrne/start.html target=new>http://www.acc.umu.se/~alpha/byrne/start.html</a><br><br>Good luck! I did glance at the list and it seemed to
have most of what I remember and even a couple I had
forgotten.<br><br>Dean


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Subject: Just popped in to say hi.
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I just found this club and had to join. I read
Charlton comics since I was a kid. As a matter of fact I
think my first Charlton was Atomic Mouse by Al Fago.
And I loved Captain Atom and all the other action
heroes of the 60's.<br>In the 70's I sold two short
scripts to Charlton. One was a horror script and the
other was a romance comic. The pay wasn't great, but at
least they would look at your work. The other companies
were closed shops at the time when it came to writers.
The first script I sent them should have gone into
the circular file. But, instead of a form rejection,
Nick Cuti sent me a letter detailing what was wrong
with the story and what to do next time. Of course, I
had that letter next to me when writing the next
script and that one sold. I still have that letter and
it is one of my prized possesions.<br>And when
Charlton was letting fans do whatever they wanted with the
Charlton Bullseye comic I started working on an idea about
Captain Atom. It was intended to explain where he had
been all these years and feature the most powerful
villain he ever faced. So powerful that all the Charlton
heroes had to team up to battle him. Of course the plug
got pulled before I was able to finish it. A shame
since I was also working on ideas to update Judomaster,
Son of Vulcan, and Thunderbolt.<br>And, if anyone is
interested, I think DC really dropped the ball when it came
to handling the Charlton characters.<br>I had a lot
of Charlton comics, but a roof leak took care of
that. Still have some, but they are so hard to find
back issues here.<br>Glad someone cared enough to make
this club.<br>Randy


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Sorry for the shameless plug here, but I thought
you guys might be interested. <br><br>I am trying to
liquidate part of my comic collection because I am going to
be a father...again!<br><br>I have a lot on Ebay
that is mostly consiting of characters once published
by Charlton. Minimum bid is only 50 cents, so you
can tell I'm not out to make money in this, just to
send the books off to someone who'll appriciate them.
<br><br><a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1159931741 target=new>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1159931741</a><br><br>Brad


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FINALLY.  I've officially started that looooooong overdue club picture. Things have finally settled down enought to do it!  I'll keep you guys updated.<br><br>Loston


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Cool.


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Subject: Tom Sutton in Comics Journal!
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I don't normally read the Journal. I frankly find
the near constant disdain for superheroes too
grating, but it's hard to resist when a Charlton fave like
Tom Sutton does an extended interview with the
magazine and you then find said magazine for only a buck.
What's not to like?<br><br>As with any Journal interview
I don't read it in order but scan it looking for
bits which interest me and in this case of course I
wanted to know what Sutton said about Charlton. Someone
here had mentioned this interview when it first came
out and recommended it so I knew the subject was
broached.<br><br>Favorite points:<br><br>Story about Sutton and his wife
visiting the Derby plant and discovering Nick Cuti and
George Wildman (Sutton couldn't remember Wildman's name)
and dirt, dirt , dirt. Apparently the old factory
atmosphere (I used to work in a plant of the same vintage)
created quite a rugged working environment.<br><br>Story
about Wally Wood actually staging a military attack on
the Derby plant to liberate some of his artwork.
According to Sutton Wood and some accomplices use grappling
hooks (I'm not kidding!) and ropes to scale the
building and break in to retrieve the
artwork.<br><br>Finally the point that Gary Groth seems to have some
animus against our beloved Joe Gill. Multiple times in
the interview it seemed to me that Groth (who
invariably described Gill as a hack) tried to get Sutton to
say unkind things about Joe. Sutton to his credit
refrained and instead remarked that while Gill's scripts
were less that always fresh they were competent and
that Joe was a nice is somewhat cranky
fellow.<br>Sadly Groth seemed event to use Gill's name as a
synonym for "hack" at times. What is this guy's problem
anyway. <br><br>Anyway the interview was very revealing,
and unfortunately tells the story of a profoundly sad
and regretful man (Sutton) who has found himself
isolated in his profession. Sutton was a master of the
horror form in the 70s'. His work along with Ditko's was
a constant of quality in Charlton's ghost line.
Ironically I also found a copy of Ghostly Haunts yesterday
featuring a particularly good Sutton painted cover. I don't
think there has ever been an artist better suited to
illustrate the worlds of H.P.Lovecraft than Tom Sutton. His
gothic style and Lovecraft's merge
wonderfully.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Dean


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In what issue of the Comics Journal is that interview printed? I'd like to know, just to have a copy to read myself. Thanks for the info.<br>Michael Browning


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I halfway sympathize with Gary Groth. His
attitude seems to be that comics should be better than
they usually are and I can't enmtirely disagree with
that, so when he criticises someone he thinks is a
"hack", I can see where he's copming from. What's grating
for most, I feel, is that a hack is simply someone
who does art, not entirely his own, for money. I
don't see this as the ultimate evil as Groth does. In
my mind, a "hack" (or hired artist) can do very good
work indeed. Where Groth becomes irritating is when he
refuses to acknowledge that HIS own favorite writers and
artists are also hacks, and Groth spares no energy in
gushing over them.<br>Personally, I don't have admiration
for Gill's writing...but I have respect. He did
competent work, even though he didn't do much that I
strongly admire personally.<br>Regarding Sutton...I
strongly liked his work from the start. I really love
strongly stylistic artists and his art was significantly
personal and fascinating to see. It's really a shame that
he didn't get more assignments from other companies
that last 20 years.<br>I hope his stuff gets reprinted
soon. I think it would look even better in black and
white. However, I have to say that the one thing that
struck me about the Comics Journal interview was
Sutton's lack of coherence and memory. The poor guy
obviously lived hard in the 70s. I'm not being snide
here...I'm sorry it was so but it seems to be the case. I'd
like to see him do new work now. He MUST have a lot of
good stuff in him, if he wanted to do comics nowadays.


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The Comics Journal issue number was #230. I'm
sorry I didn't think to include that critical bit of
data in my first message. The issue features a
first-rate Tom Sutton painted cover with a classic oozy
monster and damsel of some sort. The guy was/is a great
artist.<br><br>Dean


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I frankly thought the interview could have used a
little editing. I know what you mean about Sutton's lack
of memory. But some of his confusion resulted from
the insistence to present us with what seemed to me
not to be a crafted interview but rather a transcript
of the conversation. Based on things Groth said I
imagine the interview was conducted by phone, and he had
the chance as questioner to prepare his line of
inquiry while Sutton was left to react to Groth's very
specific (and sometimes excellent) questions.<br><br>But
all that aside Sutton seemed to have a real need to
get his message across that his life was not to be
seen as some sort of guide for budding artists. I
found his comments about the evils of drink
particularly moving. He seemed almost to want to reach out and
try to save folks from making some of the mistakes he
understands himself to have made.<br><br>I'm always struck by
artists who can't remember the work they've done. It
means so much to me, and is burned into my "fanboy"
memory that to encounter the creator not even giving it
a second thought after its completion is an odd
experience. Clearly Sutton worked at a breakneck pace and the
work was just that, "work". <br><br>The funniest
moment in the interview for me, was when he couldn't
even remember the existence of the short-lived company
Atlas-Seaboard. <br><br>Dean


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Head on over to &lt;<a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/&gt; target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/&gt;</a> <br>Issue# 53 is today's feature. Enjoy!<br><br>Loran


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Thanks for pointing out T-Bolt's Oddball
appearance Loran. Your link wasn't working for some reason.
This link should (hopefully) take us right to the
item:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-29 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-06-29</a><br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Dean


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Whoops!<br>My fault.<br>A very insightful little segment as the Oddball features usually are.


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A free subscriber's ad I took , in CBG , led to
me getting a letter , from someone in Seattle who
didn't have a computer , looking 4 old Charlton war
comics , mostly th' " Fightin' " subseries . If anyone
wants his address...


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I was just thinking today about some of the clubs
I founded over a year ago, and I realized that this
club has already seen its anniversary. I'm sorry I
wasn't around for it -- I was on vacation in Europe at
the time -- but I'm really pleased with the growth
and the activity this club has
spawned.<br><br>Sonofvulcan is really the heart and soul of this club (in my
opinion), and it's to him and everyone else here who
contributes regularly that I say, "THANKS!"<br><br>The reason
I founded this club in the first place was because
the few comics published by Charlton have always
impressed me, and I wanted to know more about that "little
comic-book company that could" from Derby, and it's safe to
say that this club has exceeded my vision
tenfold!<br><br>Thanks to all of you again, and especially to my
faithful co-founder, Sonofvulcan.<br><br>Doc


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Thanks for the kind words Doc. The interest in
Charlton over the last year has been uplifting. The little
Derby company has spawned a full-fledged fanzine
(Charlton Spotlight), an E-group, and this Yahoo Club to
name just a few. A Captain Atom story was just last
month reprinted, a great sign of things to come I hope.
The interest in the collecting community for
Charltons seems to be growing. <br><br>This club has been a
great deal of fun to co-manage and it has inspired me
to actively work on a few of my Charlton
collections. Now if I could only justify spending so much on
that issue of Go-Go #1 I've seen I would indeed be in
heaven.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Question of the Week? (Future & DC)
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What should DC do to successfully market the
Charlton Heroes?<br><br>They've done quite a few things
with them, but nothing really of late (outside the Cap
Atom reprint). Given the recent interest in Charlton,
what could DC do to make those characters click in the
modern marketplace?<br><br>My answer is Steve Ditko. I
don't know what his situation is, but DC should offer
him enough a lucrative deal to return for a year or
so to Blue Beetle and then get out of his way. I
would love to see some raw Ditko on the market with
those modern DC production values. I can't imagine
Ditko's political meanderings to be any more odd than
much of the Vertigo material. <br><br>What do my
fellow Charltonians think?<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: DC CHARLTON ACTION FIGURES
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Wouldn't it be great if DC were to start putting
out the Charlton action figures along with the ones
they are currently doing of their own characters? It
would be so easy to do!!! I myself, figuring this
likely never would happen, a number of years ago,
decided to make my own. So I made home made versions of:
Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, Judomaster, Tiger, and
Peacemaker! They turned out rather well, actually, and I
still have them. Phil Latter a.k.a Chromium Foil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:33:36 -0700
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Years ago, just after DC acquired the rights to
all the Charlton characters, I was so excited about
that. Being fans of all of these characters, but
particularly Judomaster, I photocopied every JM issue(eleven
in all, including his 1st appearance in Special War
Series#4), but also sending them an original JM issue which
I did have a duplicate of. The idea was to get them
excited or interested enough to do a JM series, or at
least bring him back, since he was about the one
"charlton action hero" they didn't use for several years.
Of course,we all know how that turned out. Off
topic, can anyone please(!!!) tell me what happened to
the Christopher Smith Peacmaker?? There was no
explanation of what happened to him in THE LAW series. Did he
die? And if so, in what issue?? Of course, Paul
Kupperberg ruined him, just like he ruined the modern
Vigilante, so the only option left for DC was to kill him
off. Vig was so "written into a corner"...his I.D
shown to the world, that any alternative would have
seemed ridiculous.


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First I think that DC needs to realize that there
is value in the Charlton characters as they were.
Examine their strengths and weaknesses and play to those
strengths and try to find ways to make the character better
without altering them so that they are unrecognizable
from our beloved Charlton versions. And why mess with
the costumes so much? I thought that the Charlton
action heroes outfits were fine. Maybe a tiny
alteration, but not this wholesale redesign crap that DC has
gotten into the habit of. It seems that today's creators
cannot appreciate a simple solid character and feel that
they must remold that character so that they are cool
and edgy. And this is done with even some of DC's
older characters. I see nothing wrong with doing a good
solid version of a character as they were created
instead of remaking them just so you can say that you
contributed to something that would not have been a sucess
without the creator's brilliant reconstruction of that
character.<br> And don't just put the books out without a good
marketing plan. Use house ads...ads in comic related
publications...posters...support the titles. Get behind the books and push as much
as you can. How much do you really have to market
Superman and Batman? People are going to buy those titles
anyway. Use some of that advertising dollar to get the
Charlton characters off the ground. If they crash and burn
at least you can say that you gave it a good shot
instead of just dumping them on the comic book shops
without support and looking the other way when they get
in trouble.<br> And don't entangle them in those
large story arcs where there is a title for the whole
series such as Batman's No Man's Land. Keep the plots
reasonable so that new readers can jump in and discover the
characters and not feel like they are lost with the first
issue they read.<br> If DC is worried that these
characters would sully their good name maybe they could
somehow buy the Charlton name and put out a line of
comics under that name. I would love to buy a comic book
with the Charlton name on it again.<br> Sorry that
this is so long, but when it comes to how DC has
handled the Charlton action heroes I have some rather
strong feelings.


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...Unfortunately...Look , I've ( Kind of . )
spent twentyish years wishing DC would " do something "
with Sugar and Spike !!!!!!!!! <br>( Incidentally ,
does anyone know details about the " low production
values - basically a panel-by-panel scan of an S&S story
with dialogue and sound effects " S&S TV show that a
very early Nickelodeon , apparently , did ? Sugar and
Spike " lived " in Westchester County , in Rye? , near
the Conneticut border , so that's near enough to
Derby !!!!!!!!! )<br> Maybe one ( or , two ? ) books of
a Charlton character , with others appearing as
supporting/involved characters...If today's SH comics creators could
re-discover the ability to actually tell a fair amount of
story in just 22 pages , rather than spreading it out
to three issues minimum ( $5.97 - or , $6.75 ,
really !!!!!!!!! )...DC's bringing back Suicide Squad ,
w Sarge S. , I think...I saw the cover in B&W and
it , practically , looked like Evan Dorkin , 'twas
so manga-but-with-guns..." Milk And Cheese - This
Time It's For REAL " !!!!!!!!!


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I liked DC's run of Blue Beetle, but, as good as
Paris Cullins can draw, these characters need big name
creators and a big-time push. Casual readers have so long
ago forgotten about these characters that it's got to
be hard to get any eager anticipation going, except
with Charlton fanatics like us. I think these
characters have suffered from getting second-rate treatment
too long and any attempt to get them back into the
spotlight is going to be an uphill battle. Let's face it,
comics aren't in grocery stores and on drug store
spinner racks anymore and the only people buying comics
nowadays are adults and collectors. There aren't many new
readers coming in, except to pick up an occasional issue
of X-Men, Superman, Batman, Spiderman and Spawn. And
I'm sure those readers are too young to remember the
Blue Beetle, the Question and Captain Atom. Restarts,
like the one done recently by DC in The LAW
miniseries, should be done to renew interest, before they
decide to take the characters in a different direction
and give them totally new suits. I love the work Bob
Layton and Dick Giordano do. They are two of comics'
greatest creators. But, changing the costumes didn't help
sell any more issues, especially since they weren't
the best costumes redesigns. DC just needs to put the
Charlton characters in their own pocket of the DC
universe, much like Marvel has done with its Marvel Knights
group of books, and get some high profile writers and
artists working on these books to rejuvenate interest.
Daredevil was in the tank before Joe Quesada and Kevin
Smith came along and made the book one of Marvel's top
comics. And who cared anything about the Inhumans or the
Punisher? Instead of Marvel always following DC, maybe DC
needs to take a look at what Marvel did with those
books and put that kind of attention to the Charlton
heroes. But, you know, I don't think DC cares that much
about them to do that. <br>Michael Browning


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Sadly I agree that DC seems to have little
interest in the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle gets some
attention in Birds of Prey and Captain Atom recently made a
short appearance in the "JLA: Gods and Monsters" book
(this is a pretty lame comic by the way and Cap comes
off as a near lunatic unfortunately). But beyond that
I don't think they show up on anyone's scope.
Nothing has been done with Judomaster since his
reintroduction in the L.A.W. and with all the super-teams I
think at least one Action hero could latch on
somewhere. <br><br>I like your notion of a pocket brand for
the heroes. I would love to see the same for the
Fawcett heroes that DC also abosorbed many years ago. But
I'm not holding my breath.<br><br>It could be worse I
guess. The characters could have been bought by Todd
McFarlane and would now be spending their time fighting
Spawn or perhaps forming a hockey team.<br><br>Kaji
Dha!<br>Dean


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Subject: Holiday Surprise!
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I stumbled onto a real oddity today. The comic
book is call "Holiday Surprise" (actually it reads
"Charlton's Holiday Surprise" on the cover).<br>The numbering
is typically Charltonesque and gives us a Volume 2
#55. There is a note that this was formerly "Summer
Fun". This 1967 book is a real hoot and is filled with
Christmas material.<br><br>I am a fan of Tony Tallarico. I
can't explain that, except to say that his wide-open
style is full of energy and his storytelling can be
quite good (and quite clunky too). This entire issue (a
25 cent giant by the way) is done by Tallarico. He
uses at least three main styles. There is his typical
comic book style (similar to his Blue Beetle work)
which is used on a retelling of the Dickens classic "A
Christmas Carol". This is a stripped-down version as the
wonderful trio of ghosts is replaced by a single Marley
character. Nonetheless Tallarico's art is well suited to
Dickensian characterss. He uses a more New Yorker cartoon
style on some single page gags featuring Santa and a
reindeer called Little Rufus. Also there are a host of
mazes, cut-outs, and coloring pages (which thankfully
are untouched in my copy). The most interesting bit
though is a retelling of the Christ story and the story
of Hannukah in a much more illustrative and
realistic style. <br><br>This is darn fine little comic
fromthe innocuous cover to the Batman ad for a projector
on the back cover. My store has gotten a lot of neat
Charlton treasures in the last few weeks, but so far this
one is the oddest and most interesting to
date.<br><br>Does anyone know more about this comic? I would love
to know more.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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...I DO! believe that Ditko has a " never-working<br>again on a strip I've ever left " , so...


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Steve Ditko is one of the most complex characters
in all of comics. Why he does the things he does,
has always been a mystery. He worked for Charlton for
decades because they left him the hell alone. For some
mysterious reason he saw his way clear to work for Marvel in
the 80's on a host of superhero projects. I still
haven't figured that turnabout out.<br><br>I don't doubt
for a moment he means what he says, but I also know
that he has done a lot of unpredcitable things. If
they were to convince him he had total autonomy on the
strip, I think he might (just perhaps) be cajoled into
it. The money would have to be good as he is getting
up there in years, but the total control at a major
publisher might be tempting.<br><br>Dean


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Hi guys,<br><br>I added a picture of the Question, as sketched by Rick Burchett for the Comic book legal defense fund.  It's in the Charlton Characters folder.  Check it out.<br><br>Brad


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I wish someone would put a piccie or two , anyway
, up of Killjoy , or even some kharacters of his ,
all present and korrect ! - Did any of the "
anarchists " , or general non-violent demonstraters , in the
anti-globalisation/NAFTA<br> demonstrations in Seattle , etc. , use Killjoy ,
or a version of him , as a symbol ? I got an
indication that they might've . Lil' ironic , given the
ideological side of the street our Stevie is generally
perceived to walk on - Uv Cawss , he's no particular fan of
the UN/" world government " either !!!!!!!!!


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Subject: Many Ghosts of Dr.Graves!
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Rounded up a nice helping of some early Doc
Graves comics yesterday. These are the cream of the
cream when it comes to late 60's Charlton ghost comics.
Dr.M.T.Graves is the best host of a horror comic since the EC
hosts. His occasional role as a particpant in the
stories gives the books a depth not found in many ghost
comics. That early Ditko and Aparo is so
fine.<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Charlton makes yet another appearance at Scott
Shaw's Oddball comics. This time the comic in question
is one of those wonderfully zany Go-Go comics (Issue
#4) from the mid 60's. If you would like to check it
out for yourself just go to this
address:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-07-12 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-07-12</a><br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Dean


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Welcome to two new Charltonians, Lamlous and
Atomjla. Glad to have both of you here at the Charlton
Bullseye. Feel free to browse and by all means take part in
the slow but ongoing conversation about that cool
little Derby company that (alas) is no
more.<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br>Dean


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Welcome Paulharbron to the Charlton Bullseye.
Don't hesitate to take part in the ongoing discussion
about Charlton comics and those great Action Heroes
from years gone by. Which Charlton period is your
favorite? Which character?<br><br>Welcome
again!<br><br>Dean


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Subject: thankyou sonofvulcan
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I always loved charlton comics and still have all of them since i was a youngen.  Ijust read a comicbook artist magazine all about charlton comics very interesting.


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Subject: Strong --------- TO THE FINISH !!!!!!!!!
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Someone ( sonofvulcan ? ) has mentioned his
fondness 4 Geoge Wildman's Charlton version of th' Son O'
Poopdeck " POPEYE " !!!!! Tell us about it ? An
interesting bit of comics scholarship , 2 B Sure !!!!!


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I too am a big popeye fan. An addition to fave
comics characters I am also a big fan of some oddball
characters like Zorro, the phantom, tarzan, green hornet,
and popeye. i would sure like a reply to some members
as i have posted on this board at times. I don't
think I have ever gotten a reply! Makes me think that
this is a pretty "exclusive" club that I don't I am
(really) a part of...if ya know what I mean...I also love
all the old Charlton action heroes and have most of
'em...


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My debut comic, "Klyde & Meriem" is out on the
shelves today! It's a very limited run (slightly under
4000 copies), so get 'em while they last, or place a
reorder. A reprinting would be great!<br><br>Loston


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I'm really disappointed Loston. I called my
comics dealer (sounds vaguely illegal doesn't it) and
put in my weekly order (they won't let you reserve
comics until the day they arrive) and had Klyde and
Meriem put on the list. They said okay, but when I got
home I didn't find it among the pile of comics. I'll
have to call today and try to snag one. Hopefully I
haven't missed it.<br><br>Dean


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Charlton makes yet one more appearance at the
Oddball comics site. This time the comic in question is
THE RETURN OF GORGO #3 from 1964. Prompted by this
appearance I went and actually bought this comic yesterday
(found it for a very reasonable price given that we're
talking Ditko here). Sure it's hokey. Sure it has taking
dolphins. But what are you gonna do. To get a closer look
go
to:<br><br><a href=http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-07-18 target=new>http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/index.cgi?date=2001-07-18</a><br><br>This is a good one. Give it a check.<br><br>Dean


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If you have missed it, email me @:  lostonwallace@yahoo.com<br>I'll happily, sell a copy to you via mail.<br><br>Loston


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Cool site for covers:<br><a href=http://users.raketnet.nl/weirdcomics target=new>http://users.raketnet.nl/weirdcomics</a><br><br><br>Loston


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I mean , AS IF we have anyone under the XVIII
mark...Okay , legalities aside...Is Yahoo! jerking over the "
Erotic Cartoons " catergory ( QUITE LIKELY , since
they're doing so to other 18= thingeees , ) ? I belong to
two . Cherry Poptart , is one of them . I basically
never go , but , when I went 2-Day - I tried to click
on the " Erotic Cartoons " category - got nuttin' .
Entered " Cherry Poptart " - got " no club by that " -
the club is still up , & has postings from as recent
as THIS MONTH !!!!! Hello ?


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I'd like to hear from other Judomaster fans.
While I love all the Charlton action heroes, I admit JM
was far and away my favorite! Excellent, dynamic art
by Frank Mclaughlin, cool costume, interesting
romantic partner and supporting cast,wonderful action
scenes and anatomy, and very good job on the coloring,
to boot! The idea that JM (in reality) an American,
fighting against our (then) WW11 enemies, the Japanese,
with himself wearing a costume mimicking the Japanese
"rising sun" flag---struck me that JM was insulting his
enemies further, making it seem that it was---Japan
versus the empire of Japan. That aspect struck me as
odd, but intriguing. And yet, I want to be careful
because I certainly don't want my comments to be
misconstrued as non politically correct. No such intent is
meant. But if you are familiar with the series, I think
you may see what I mean. A lot of evils were
perpetrated against Japanese Americans, as I think we are all
aware. Most of them were put in concentration camps in
America for the duration of the war. This was Mcarthyism
at its worst---assuming all Japanese are the enemy.
Utter madness. The Japanese may have attached "us"
first---meaning the U.S. first (I myself am Canadian but
Canadians were allies and served)---but still to punish
Japanese citizens was to me incredible paranoia. On
another note, I sent out a message about Peacemaker some
time ago. My question was: What happened to the
Christopher Smith Peacemaker? He was replaced in THE L.A.W by
a completely different Peacemaker. Is Smith Dead?
If so, was that story ever told? If so, where? Sure
would appreciate any info on this. Thanks


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Rip Jagger is one of my particular favorites too
Chrome (may I call you "Chrome"?). In fact it was those
two decidedly wonderful issues featuring the debut of
Tiger which were my entry point into the Charlton
mythology. Those and a single issue of the Dan Garrett Blue
Beetle and a single issue of Pat Boyette's quirky take
on Thunderbolt were what I knew of Charlton for many
years. But it was indeed that odd costume which drew me
to Judomaster.<br><br>I was very pleased to see him
revived in the L.A.W. limited series and while I
understand the need to redesign his outfit I did indeed miss
that red and yellow splash of color. While the
Japanese are often mishandled in WWII vintage books, I
think the treatment they recieved in Judomaster was
(within the confines of a war book) pretty reasonable.
The villains were specific stereotypes, but there
wasn't a total condemnation of an entire population as
you find in the most engergetic of the Golden Age
comics. The jingoism was held to a minimum I
think.<br><br>Frank McLaughlin did a tremendous job on the series.
With all proper respect to the more successful Iron
Fist and Master of Kung-Fu which Marvel produced in
the 70's there has never been a more accurate martial
arts comic than Judomaster to my knowledge.<br><br>Rip
Jagger was the best!<br><br>Dean


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I don't know. I was very saddened by the
treatment of Chris Smith by DC. I have the mini-series
which was done but beyond that I know little about the
character at DC. The last time I remember seeing him before
this new guy in L.A.W. was in Justice League as a
member of some overly violent group or other, the name
of which escapes me. I'll have to do some research,
but I would guess that it is at least assumed that
Smith is dead. But this is comics, and dead don't mean
a lot most of the time.<br><br>Dean


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The rule of thumb is "If there ain't no body, he ain't dead". As a secondary rule, you might also discount the body as evidence where some characters are concerned (Fu Manchu comes to mind).


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Oh I agree absolutely. It darned hard to kill off
a comics character, and frankly can never be done
with absolute assurance that it will take thoroughly.
<br><br>My displeasure with the handling of Peacemaker is
the general notion that his whole mission of seeking
world peace through armed conflict was on its face
foolish and consequently he was a dumb character. You get
that in the way DC made him essentially an insane
character and you find it with Alan Moore's Watchmen
version who is called simply the Comedian. I don't find
the inherent conflict in the character that his
post-Charlton creators seem to. He is at least as valid a
character as Captain America or Batman in that he fights
for what he belives in.<br><br>Dean


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Thanks guys for getting back to me on jm and
peacemaker! So many replies! I'm grateful! Certainly you may
call me Chrome! (For some odd reason my mother calls
me Phil.But no matter.) From all the replies I
received, I am assuming it is correct that DC feels
Christopher Smith version (original) of Peacemaker is indeed
dead. And further that this story hasn't been told. A
shame? I feel he was ruined by Paul Kupperberg (writer)
who wrote him into a corner. (Crazy, thus he had to
go) &gt; Paul often does write characters into
corners. Not being able to write them back out of it, they
have to die. EG:Adrian Chase/Vigilante was unmasked on
TV, and ergo had to die. By his own hand, a suicide.
Interestingly, he was unmasked by---you guessed it---Peacemaker.
<br>I agree with you Dean, on Judomaster as
well---those tales were very realistic and fairer to the
Japanese than a lot of golden age comics---were they often
looked like monkeys! As in the character Chop Chop in
early Blackhawks! Racism was prevalent then! That often
happens in war. But peacetime as well. Segregation of
blacks up through the 60's. I think racism,
unfortunately, will always be with us. I don't like the new
Peacemaker. And off topic---I think some writers kill off
popular characters so as to create their own
version---like this new Peacemaker, or Ron Marz' Kyle Rayner
Green Lantern. -Phil Latter/Chromiumfoil


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The assumption is that since the character didn't
sell well enough to stay around then there must be
something wrong with the premise. That may be true of a
concept where the platform is Marvel or DC, but we're
talking about Charlton here. This company was anything
but typical and the creators would be wise to
understand that the characters resonate because they are
fundamentally sound, not because they are flawed. Stick with
the original concepts, or at least treat them with
respect.<br><br>Dean


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Welcome Yink ko and Waterb2 to the Bullseye. By
all means feel free to participate in the ongoing
discussion of the littel Derby company. Which genre was your
favorite? Which Action Hero spoke to your heart (if
any)?<br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Kaji Dha!<br><br>Dean


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I had to give a short reply, CF! The treatment of
Japanese on the west coast during WWII was certainly
shameful, especially the aspect of seizing property with
little or no compensation and sending all Japanese to
concentration camps. But I just want to correct the swing we
have in the OTHER way. At the time, there WERE
Japanese working for the homeland as spies and agitators,
as depicted in the filmn Pearl Harbor (and based on
reality). At the time, Americans had no way of telling how
many ethnic Japanese felt loyalty to the Emperor, who,
after all, was their god. Furthermore, Japanese
propaganda itself advertised that Japanese in America should
and would rise up at any time to help the Japanese
army invade, and average Americans had no way of
telling if that was true or not.<br>I mention this just
to correct the tendency of ours to look back and say
"Well, they shoulda known better" when viewing an
historical situation. The anti-Japanese sentiments of the
War years were justified given the times. It WASN'T
justified to send old men, women, and children to camps, or
to steal the property of long-time residents and 2nd
generation citizens...but it was justified for the public to
think of the Japanese in the army as evil---they were!
The japanese, by the time of Pearl Harbor, had shown
their cruelty for a decade and most Americans knew
about it.<br>By the 60s, in a comic like Judomaster, we
were able to grudgingly admit to the positive parts of
Japanese culture, and thus let the anti-Japanese feelings
subside.<br>I mention this just to balance our view of the pop
culture of the times. We can blame the comics artists of
1942 for not seeing the world the way we do now...and
this goes for all areas of life as depicted in old
comics, m ovies, etc.


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I think what has always struck the chord on the
internment issues was the blatant racist attitudes that
partially motivated it. To my knowledge no such camps were
devised for Italian or German Americans and that gives
rise to the simple but true notion that it was the
difference in appearance that drove the call for such
special security moves. The Japanese could be identified
simply by the way they looked and such simple divisions
are easy for fearful (justifiable though that fear
might be) folks to fasten onto.<br><br>We see the same
kind of racism today when there is one "worldwide"
response to tragedies in Europe and another when those
same kinds of tragedies occur in Africa or Asia. I
admit that I too fall into this simplistic "us" and
"them" attitude simply by reflex all to often.<br><br>I
accept easily that certain Japanese were a real and
substantial threat during WWII. I can even forgive
overreactions. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking the
camps were justified. They flat were not. I know you
aren't arguing for this Charles.<br><br>The racism
apparent in the comics of the Golden Age can be put into
historical context and I can even get well beyond that and
enjoy the stories. But we can't let that kind of thing
go by again. The most recent examples are simplistic
notions promoted about Middle Eastern peoples. Demonizing
a Hitler, or a Tojo, or a Saddam is tricky business
and can leave some very profound scars.<br><br>Dean


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Hi chasmithalpha thanks for your reply. Some
years ago I read an issue of TIME magazine whose cover
had intrigued me. It was a blood red cover, with huge
black letters spelling out, DOES EVIL EXIST? It was a
fascinating read, covering such topics as mass
murder/genocide, serial killers,Hitler, Napoleon, men who kill
women, children, cults, etc, etc, et al. You get the
idea. The basic premise was, are all of these people,
nations, doctrines, ideologies....EVIL? Or are they simply
demented, mentally ill, misguided, involved (or
brain-washed by) totalitarian views and doctrines...???!!! The
idea was that EVIL (which implies empowerment by, say,
Satan) is a concept that simply cannot be proven.
<br>With respect, to say the nation of Japan in World War
11 was evil is in my view, a value judgement.
Remember, a nation is made up of men, women, children. Wars
predominantly are fought by men, under men (politicians,
government) in power. <br>Let's say that you or I was a
Japanese man in Japan in World War 11, and we were drafted
into the air force. In many nations, (including the
United States throughout much of its history), to speak
out against the military, or refuse to serve, was
treason, punishable by death.<br>Further, as a student of
Sociology, including the study of the doctrines of
Totalitarianism, a lot of that is about brainwashing. While no
true "100%" totalitarian society has ever existed (the
groundrules are not one member of that society would want to
object to it, or have reservations about it), many big
names in sociology argue that Nazi Germany came the
closest in written history.<br>In Japan, while the will
of the Emperor and patriotic fervor were great, one
who would not do one's duty was seen as a coward.
There was no vocal group to include oneself in, such
those who would not serve when drafted during the
Vietnam War, who felt the Vietnam War was wrong.
(Conscientious Objectors). Further, while panic was among the
U.S. (I saw a great documentary on this the other
night)....back then, not everyone had equal rights, not Japanese
in America, not Blacks, etc, etc. <br>Yes, the U.S.A
was understandably worried, and didn't know which of
its citizen Japanese might be loyal to the nation of
Japan....but as Dean pointed out, all of the German citizens
of the U.S.A were not arrested. Why? For one thing,
they looked like us.......<br>Interested in continuing
the debate. Warm Regards, Phil
Latter/CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM


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Well, now, I have to respond! What a sucker I am
for a good debate! But seriously...<br>Let me just
say that I do NOT in any way condone racially based
policies which harm individuals for the actions of a
group, such as the internment of the Americans of
japanese descent during WWII. It was a gross over-reaction
to a perceived, and as you say, racially motivated.
Keep in mind that all Asians in the American west had
a troubled history starting with the Chinese
laborers imported in the 1850s and continuing to our
lifetimes..so, yes, the treatment of the Japanese was founded on
a strong racist tradition (aided by the Yellow
Peril theme popular in the US 1890-1945).<br>However,
it is NOT a good thing to go the other by glossing
over the social mores of almost all Japanese which
were revealed most strongly during the 1925-45 period.
The Japanese have been, and remain, one of the most
racist societies in the modern world, as attested to
they're own treatment of Koreans in Japan for
generations, and of the Ainu minorities--and in fact even
Japanese who have been born outside of Japan proper. I
called the Japanese "evil" during the WWII period for
the following reasons:<br>During the entire period,
the Japanese--not just the career soldiers, but
including average soldiers, people in the Japanese Imperial
government, and even civilians in business--participated in a
continuing program of the utmost brutality over the native
populations of every territory they got control over.
Brutality hardly describes the activities of the Japanese
in Korea and China, particularly. These actions went
far, far beyond any need for obtaining military
control or even to rule through terror...rape,
mutilation, torture and death by cruelty was a planned and
universally-accepted program among all ranks of Japanese. They didn't
simply kill people or steal resources, they casually and
routinely performed inhuman acts beyond even what the Nazis
and Russians did, far beyond our own treatment (in
scale) against Amerindians. And these activities were
known to businessmen and civilians in the homeland,
including forcible prostition of Korean women, the working
to death of native populations, the murder of
infants, the use of poison gas against civilians in
China...and on and on. And this doesn't even cover the
experimental program of torture perpetrated by the government
during the war years which is as horrifying as anything
the Nazi death-camp doctors set up.<br>One cannot
easily conclude that this widespread use of cruelty and
the nearly-universal acceptance of it by Japanese at
all levels of society as merely the result of state
control. The fact is that an autocratic regime can unleash
a certain level of inhumanity in its population,
but no government can induce such glee in performing
acts of the bloodiest, grisliest kind unless the
subjects of that regime are eager and ready to do them.
So, I would condemn the entire nation during the WW
II period as evil--and I think that conclusion is
inescapable. To argue that other nations through history were
as evil, or nearly as evil, is to sidestep the
issue; but I think we would have to look hard to find
countries with the same support for the same level of
cruelty. Not the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Not Idid Amin
in Uganda, not the Taliban in Afghanistan, not even
the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia have accomplished what
the Japanese did except in limited and largely
unpopular (among their own populations) campaigns. <br>The
relative evil of Nazis, and others, will have to be
discussed another time.


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Dean, you raise a lot of interesting points. I
have spent a long time thinking about racism (as a
cover all name for bias against all kinds of groups,
like anti-Catholicism) in pop culture. In part (I
confess!) some of my favorite fiction has been racist, like
the Fu Manchu novels, Cowboy movies, and even Tarzan
books. Seeing the discrepencey between that sort of pop
culture and my own attitudes has made me examine the
issue at length.<br>To be brief, I think the key points
are: Is the racism a story-telling device? Is it
balanced by other pop culture materials with a different
depiction? Is it heartfelt by the writer? To be blunt, I
think some racist depictions can be useful in the
telling of a story and as a challenge to our own
assumptions, and a valid expression of one person's beliefs
however much it might differ from what I think.<br>But
avoiding a long discussion, I think what you're getting at
is a key question: Does pop culture reinforce
pre-existing racist beliefs, create them, or merely reflect
them? I find racism rather like the on-going concern
over violence in pop culture since we are confused
about what is cause, what is effect, and what real harm
is done.<br>To get to the bottom line: I don't think
racism in comics is particularly worrisome. At worst, it
affronts the sensibilities of some people. But I don't
think anyone will hate a Muslim, say, based on exposure
to anti-Muslim plots in comic books. Racist beliefs
come from socially widespread beliefs and I don't
think pop culture can affect those very widely or for
long. <br>Personally, I am willing to enjoy a good
story even with depictions I know are not true...as
long as the story is well done, just as I love a
Polish joke if it's really funny.<br>What I really enjoy
is musing over what the racism in pop cul;ture
really means. And, on a tangent, have you noticed
examples of "new" and (for now) "acceptable" racism in pop
culture? Such as : All native Americans are in touch with
nature; all Asians know and enjoy Kung Fu and mysticism;
and all African Americans are playful, gregarious,
and pre-occupied with sex? I wonder if people in 2050
will look back and say "Boy, those comics of 2000 were
really offensive! Imagine thinking Blacks can't speak
standard English! I'm glad we don't have that kind of
hurtful thinking in TODAY'S comics!"?<br>I'd like to note
that Charlton has a pretty good record in this area. I
just read the new ACG reprint of some "Cheyenne Kid"
stories and the Amerindians are pretty well
depicted.<br>Last, irrelevent note: I wonder if we could have in
America a PRO-Muslim comic/character? Seriously--think it
would be possible?


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Well, now, I have to respond! What a sucker I am
for a good debate! But seriously...<br>Let me just
say that I do NOT in any way condone racially based
policies which harm individuals for the actions of a
group, such as the internment of the Americans of
japanese descent during WWII. It was a gross over-reaction
to a perceived, and as you say, racially motivated.
Keep in mind that all Asians in the American west had
a troubled history starting with the Chinese
laborers imported in the 1850s and continuing to our
lifetimes..so, yes, the treatment of the Japanese was founded on
a strong racist tradition (aided by the Yellow
Peril theme popular in the US 1890-1945).<br>However,
it is NOT a good thing to go the other by glossing
over the social mores of almost all Japanese which
were revealed most strongly during the 1925-45 period.
The Japanese have been, and remain, one of the most
racist societies in the modern world, as attested to
they're own treatment of Koreans in Japan for
generations, and of the Ainu minorities--and in fact even
Japanese who have been born outside of Japan proper. I
called the Japanese "evil" during the WWII period for
the following reasons:<br>During the entire period,
the Japanese--not just the career soldiers, but
including average soldiers, people in the Japanese Imperial
government, and even civilians in business--participated in a
continuing program of the utmost brutality over the native
populations of every territory they got control over.
Brutality hardly describes the activities of the Japanese
in Korea and China, particularly. These actions went
far, far beyond any need for obtaining military
control or even to rule through terror...rape,
mutilation, torture and death by cruelty was a planned and
universally-accepted program among all ranks of Japanese. They didn't
simply kill people or steal resources, they casually and
routinely performed inhuman acts beyond even what the Nazis
and Russians did, far beyond our own treatment (in
scale) against Amerindians. And these activities were
known to businessmen and civilians in the homeland,
including forcible prostition of Korean women, the working
to death of native populations, the murder of
infants, the use of poison gas against civilians in
China...and on and on. And this doesn't even cover the
experimental program of torture perpetrated by the government
during the war years which is as horrifying as anything
the Nazi death-camp doctors set up.<br>One cannot
easily conclude that this widespread use of cruelty and
the nearly-universal acceptance of it by Japanese at
all levels of society as merely the result of state
control. The fact is that an autocratic regime can unleash
a certain level of inhumanity in its population,
but no government can induce such glee in performing
acts of the bloodiest, grisliest kind unless the
subjects of that regime are eager and ready to do them.
So, I would condemn the entire nation during the WW
II period as evil--and I think that conclusion is
inescapable. To argue that other nations through history were
as evil, or nearly as evil, is to sidestep the
issue; but I think we would have to look hard to find
countries with the same support for the same level of
cruelty. Not the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Not Idid Amin
in Uganda, not the Taliban in Afghanistan, not even
the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia have accomplished what
the Japanese did except in limited and largely
unpopular (among their own populations) campaigns. <br>The
relative evil of Nazis, and others, will have to be
discussed another time.


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The Tarzan books are excellent examples of racism
and sexism (and whatever "ism" you might have really.
Taken out of their context (and even in it) they are
pretty brutal at times. But Lord Almighty they are good
stories and I do love them so. I regularly teach "Tarzan
of the Apes" to my younger classes (15 year olds)
none of whom have ever read an actual story about the
Lord of the Jungle. One of the tougher issues in that
story is the blatant racism which percolates through
the novel. I merely point it out and explain the
social context which gave rise to it. I don't let ERB
off the hook either. He was bad even by the standards
of his day and should be held accountable for some
of his more inane comments about blacks. But the
sheer elegance and power of the Tarzan story is too
good to pass up because of these quirks.<br><br>Your
point is well taken about today's comics being seen in
the future. There are lots of odd notions which are
seen as standard today which will potentially seem
peculiar and even harmful to a future society.<br><br>I
can't think of a single Muslim character in comics.
Perhaps the Arabian Knight over at Marvel, but I know
very little about him. It seems logical enough to me
that Luke Cage might embrace Islam. That would be an
interesting aspect for the House of Ideas to
explore.<br><br>Dean


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Things can get even weirder. What about
territorial sterotypes? California Surfer Dudes and Valley
girls who care little about anything beyond their good
looks, the next sale on Rodeo Drive, or the next wave;
trigger-happy Texans who get off by saying "He needed killin'",
or have no life beyond boozing and womanizing and
working a hard labor, dead-end job; the southerner in
general, narrow-minded, incestous, and bigoted, seldom
with an education that goes beyond the 6th grade; the
New Yorker, rude, crude, and ill-mannered, usually
involved in some kind of shady deal; the northerner,
snobbish and condecending to everyone born south of
Philadelphia. <br>Some of these have their origins in comedies
going back a hundered years, some are just
misconceptions, and some are exagerations. Some aren't meant to
be harmful.<br>Fiction (novels, comics, TV, movies)
often resorts to sterotypes as a way to give a
characgter a background without having to go into it. Give
the character an accent ("Yeh, umfrum N'Yawk", "Wahl,
Ahm frum th'Sayouth", "Uh, like, I'm from, y'know,
Malibu."), a certain look, and knee-jerk responses to he
action, and you have a story. Writers KNOW these are
sterotypes, and the public generally accept them as such. I'd
like to think that most people are smart enough to
recognize a sterotype when they see one.


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...I believe there was some US internment of
Italian-Americans , but , I can't give you any details now ,
possibly other ( non-Japanese , I mean ! ) ethnicities...I
find calling every Japanese in Japan during WWII "
evel " , as you seem to do , a bit extreme , though I
don't question your points re: Japanese imperialism/"
comfort women "/Nanking , etc. Unfortunately , it tends
to happen pretty frequently - though , obviously ,
to greater/lesser exte\nts - in war9s0 both direct
and indirect . <br> Many atrocities are done for " a
great good " , as the ( as we see it ) atrocity-m\doer
sees it . Pol pot , say , confining ourself to a samll
stage/country , thoght he was improving the Cambodian
people/country . He was following Maoist doctrines - a lot of
people who said positive things about Chairman
Mao/Maoism , or the Cultural Revolution , in the ( stick
just at home ) the U.S. , in the Sixties and Seventies
, would probably not like to admit to saying them
now . Of course , to be cynical , fashions change .
The U.S.'s economic might is heavily built on African
slavery .


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...For specifically Muslim - and , actually ,
African-American/culturally " black " , I recall Wise Son , in one of
Milestone's books ( a group ) . Obviously ,
corporately-published comic books , and , indeed , commercial media in
general in the United States , stay away from religious
specifics , perferring an ionoffensive " all religion is
nice " , generally , when it is touched on . ( The
more gung-ho/conservatively religious , especially ,
sometimes see a " hostility to religion " .
)<br>Incidentally , Marvel's recently been re-using Firebird ,
their specifically Catholic superheroine , in AVENGERS
. I think I've posted , if not here , about my " if
superheroes really existed such as exist in modern-era comic
books , religious belief , especially ( Since a
Christian-based society is what I have lived in all my life ,
obviously , likewise ( I assume ) everyone else here , )
Christian-oriented belief , would , at least for some people , have
to withstand some serious questioning/doubts - with
oh . endlessly super-powered beings , visually ,
anyway , humanoid societies clearly proven as existing
who are obviously greatly physically and
intellectually , if not morally ( Since about half of them keep
trying to take us over ! Why do they WANT us , anyway ?
Raw material ? ) , superior to us...Oh , and
superheroes/villians who , routinely , " die/come back to life "
!!!!!!! ( Although both Marvel and DC modern-era
superhero comics ALSO have Dantean - even if I've never
read T. D. Comedy - Hells quite clearly exxisting ! )
" thing before !!!!!!!!!


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...Incidentally , the " New Englander " is one
territorial sterotype that has , basically , uuhh , let's
sound like I got a degree or sunmthin' , <br>"
disappeared from the American popular culture discourse " (
Uncle Sam was supposed to have a<br>" New Englander "
speech pattern , so , that's directly S-H-specific . )
My father's family - whom I have never had any
contact with any outer members that I can recall , EVER ,
were New Englanders , from Maine , about half? ,
though my Maine-born paternal grandfather left
N.E....They may have all died out .


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.....I posted , to borrow the CPL/Gang's term , a
" Revival/Survival " about Charlton vet Blondie ,
over at No Superheroes Allowed . Go read it , and
comment , or Taliban Muslim terrorists will cook Daisy
Dog and put a chandwar on Cookie .


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Just posted 4 Charlton/Modern auctions on eBay.<br><br>Check 'em out...<br><br>My eBay ID is "rosjim".<br><br>thanks,<br>Jim


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This new Atomic Mouse , from the same company
that did Last Kiss , is out , M. Thompson CBG-reviewed
it , though I have not seen it . It has ( mostly )
reprints , plus some new . Unless someone shows interest
in it...!...


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Way to go Doc. I love the Thunderbolt club picture. PAM was one of Charlton's treasures, and likely he is a talent who couldn't have prospered under another comic system.<br><br>Dean


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Ditko's Charlton horror work for Charlton is
featured in the much-delayed but latest issue of Comic
Book Marketplace which hit the stands yesterday. The
thing came with three alternate covers, but I selected
the beautiful Ditko one which features art from an
early Haunted cover I believe. (I'll check
that.)<br><br>I have yet to read the article but it seems to
focus on his later stuff from 1969-1975 and features a
checklist of his Charlton work for this period. There are
also some neat color cover reproductions. Also there
are Timmy the Timid Ghost cover reproductions as
well.<br><br>Good hunting.<br><br>Dean


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In a magazine (alter ego??) several months ago I
read from cover to cover, that was an all Charlton
issue, the take I got on why DC used Thunderbolt in the
12 issue Thunderbolt (Peter Cannon) comics series
was: yes, Pete Morisi legally bought the legal rights
to Charlton's T-bolt character,(which he himself
created), but DC, being a corporate giant, used T-Bolt even
though Pete said no, as,BEING a corporate giant, DC, in
turn owned by Warner, (the largest entertainment
company in the world (by the way) realized that one man
(Morisi) couldn't take that on and win. Where would he get
that kind of money for a lawsuit?? DC/Warner could tie
it up in court for years. To site another example of
how the rich bypass justice, how many people really
believe O.J.Simpson didn't kill those two people,
including his wife???? <br>Once DC's T-Bolt series failed,
they only then the rights were Morisi's. EG: they had
milked the character, and had no more use for T-Bolt.
<br>Ironically, I like DC's T-Bolt character better, but doing
the series under these conditions I firmly believe to
be immoral, and criminal.


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I decided to clarify moreso that seemingly
blatantly "apples and oranges" comparison of DC's using
T-Bolt (when Pete Morisi clearly, legally owns all legal
rights to the character), and the alleged murder of two
people by O.J. Simpson.<br>On the surface, such a
comparison seems silly. What I mean was: in both instances
here we have 2 rich entities; one a huge
corporation...Warner/DC, and another a world-known former sports star,
newsannouncer, and yes, movie star. Both are filthy rich beyond
measure.<br>In both instances money won out. I've already
explained the DC example, in my view. <br>With O.J., his
highly paid lawyers kept a jury sequestered for many,
many months, unable to see their families, basically,
prisoners of the trial until they finally got fed up and
"decided" that O.J. was "not guilty". Meaning, they didn't
find him innocent. The legal term "not guilty" in this
case meant his guilt could not be proven beyond a
shadow of a doubt. And, the jury was fed up and wanted
to go home and resume their lives. the MOGULS in
both disparate cases won because of money, not because
they were right or innocent. And in both cases,
innocents suffered. In my view, this move on the part of DC
was worthy of Marvel....for Marvel has spent decades
doing unworthy, slimy tactics like this. Feedback?


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...Well , as much tendency as I may have a
tendency to want to root for DC...all BIG COMPANIES ( and
little ones , and individuals , too ) , generally , tend
to do thing like this...Do have a source of X-tra
dirt , relating to Marvel ! I'd love 2 read it
!!!!!<br> I had , and posted about , that Comic Book Artist
( I believe - not Alter Ego , though , they're from
the same comp. !!!!!!! ) issue , even , specifically
, the story 'bout the rights re: P.C.-T. . As I
recall it , between the ints. w/PAM an' D. Giordano , it
appeared that <br>(0) After Charlton shut down - or ,
rather in their lengthy process of shutting down , since
they published stuff well into '86 cover dates , at
least , but , the most obviously , I guess ,<br> "
desireable " stuff , the Action Heroes , were DC's by ,
what? , does anyone remember ?<br>Didn't that " DC
CHALLENGE " mark their first DC publication , or , WAS it "
CRISIS " ? And , was PC-T with them , at that point , or
later ? I AM , I've realized , woikin' from mem'ry here
?<br>(1) I do recall a " an outfit in Australia ended up
with the rights ..." to the Action Heroes Not , I
guess , E-Man , since I believe he was , already? ,
being published elsewhere by --- 83? '84 ? Well ,
sticking just to PAM's pride & joy -<br> " AN outfit in
AUS " , but I guess , PAM somehow thought he'd got it
back - until - <br> DC announced they wanted to do it
, responded to Pete's objections with " Nyaahh
nyaahh nyahh , we've got more lawyers than you " ,
published the flop PC-T series - at some point , I remember
them mentioning that they had a new origin of PC ,
drawn by PAM , that might appear in a " SECRET ORIGINS
" annual , so , I guess Pete might've - reluctantly
- gritted his teeth and decided to go along with
the program .<br>(2) In his interview , Dick G. came
across all very noble and nautical , saying " Although
it wasn't my doings , I let Pete think that I was
behind the screwing of him by the DC lawyers ( An
approximation . ) " , sort of falling on the sword , as it
wuuzz - A captian must take the blame , for his men ! -
Apparently , after th' PC series flopped - What ? DC had an
attack of concience(sic!) ? Perhaps , uh , PAM either
padded along...and/or he either had more of a case than
you might think...and/or DC decided that it wasn't
worth th' trubble...Or , perhaps , the implication is
that , especially since the series flopped , D.G. was
able to convince<br>the highers-up , " aaww , let it
ggoo " ?<br>That's one problem with the " oral history
" approach , which TwoMorrows' books generally
stick with...of course , MAYBE , at least that's the
implication , D.G. perhaps did something that he didn't want
to publically boast around/have printed..." juice "
is , after all , a private matter by
definition...All of the 70s-generation characters that ended up
with their (co-) creators , were , um , 70s characters
!!!!! Perhaps signed/bought up under a different
front-office regime/contract situation - PC was Sixties all
the way , man .<br> Hey , perhaps - I'm not telling
an ethnic joke just because PAM and D.G. are Italian
, after all , it's mentioned in the CBA issue ( as
a rumor , to be downplayed )...And , there's that
lil' matter of EXACTLY HOW ( speaking of the wonderful
, high-prestige , funny book business !!!!! ) the
two partners behind C. HAPPENED TO MEET each
other...Could we have that long-kept secret story arc/direction
for the next season of<br>" THE SOPRANOS " ?


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Just added 17 more comic auctions.  Seven of them are Charlton (with many more to come).<br><br>If you want to see them search under my eBay ID: rosjim.<br><br>thanks, <br>Jim


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Over the weekend I got a trade paperback from ACG
called "Beyond Space". It appears to be a collection
from some of Charlton's s/f books, sporting art by Jim
Aparo, Steve Ditko, Pat Boyette, Wayne Howard, Steve
Ditko, PAM, a couple of artists who look familiar (but I
can't place) and maybe Jeff Jones. And more Steve
Ditko. The Jones story I am pretty sure I saw originally
in a Flash Gordon comic (and I remember Pat Boyette
doing one too), and one story has "Space War"
emblazoned across the tops of the pages. The story leads off
with the adaptation of "Destination: Moon" I already
have. There are three interlinked stories that I
believe were printed as a single issue of one of the
books: It starts with art by Aparo, then a section by
Ditko, and finishes with Pat Boyette. At $10.95 it's a
little steep, but hey, I got overtime this week.<br>Now
if they'd just reprint that story by Jim Aparo about
the humanoid robots...


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Hi Jim! I thought you would like to know that
nothing comes up at ebay under either rosjim nor rosjim.
(with a period after it.) Try it yourself. It says
entry not found. Please let us know what we should
input to bring them up, as I am very interested in
checking out your auctions. Thanks! Phil


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ACG is at least keeping some of this stuff in
print. Given the price of some other comics, the prices
of these packages is getting more and more
reasonable.<br><br>I think I know the Jeff Jones story you're talking
about. I too have that Destination Moon reprint. It is a
pretty nice adaptation of the film. <br><br>Dean


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Phil and everyone else,<br><br>I went to "search"
on the top bar, then clicked on "By seller" (the
third tab over), then entered "rosjim" and my auctions
came up. Maybe it was not working when you tried for
some reason, but try again, it should work
now.<br><br>~Jim


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Somewhere in the bowels of my collection there is
an old Charlton comic that I remember having a
Nightshade backup story. This particular Nightshade story is
interesting in that Tiger, (from the Judomaster series) has
grown up, and is an adult---a grown man, and with a
normal haircut. He appears plain clothes, not in his
costume. Presumably, he has retired, but still a young
man, probably in his mid twenties to early thirties.
My question is: can anyone who has this issue tell
me what title and issue # it is, so I can yank and
re-read it? Thanks! Phil


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I am away from my collection right now Chrome,
but I have the issue you are talking about. I will
try to remember to dig it out and give you the
details as per number and such on a later post unless
someone beats me to it.<br><br>Nightshade was the regular
backup feature in Captain Atom after the Blue Beetle
went on into his own feature, so I'm reasonably sure
it is one of those issues and likely a very late
one. I'm guessing either issue #88 or #89 but I will
check it.<br><br>Dean


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I found it. Captain Atom #89, the last in the
series featured the Nightshade backup story you mean. It
shows some of Nightshade's early years and her
training. She was mentored by Judomaster's "Tiger". This
story is told as memory of Nightshade's. The neat thing
is that when this neat little story by Dave Kaler
and Jim Aparo was first published the timelines were
just right for Tiger to be an adult in time to train a
young Nightshade.<br><br>I hope that helps.<br><br>Dean


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I purchased and old comic book called "Heroes,
Inc." #2 (having gotten #1 several months ago). It is
from the mid-'70s, and contains Wally Wood's Misfits
and the first appearances of Cannon (with art by
Ditko and Wood). <br>Now, sometimes I indulge in a
little quirk of mine and read the indicia (First comics
had the best ones), and this one set me to
thinking...<br>An outfit called CPL is involved, and ediorial
offices are in Derby Connecticut. I know Charlton was
CDC, but still...<br>Does anyone know if there was a
connection?


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Thanks Dean, and right you are! Tiger as an adult
did indeed appear in Cap Atom#89. I should have known
that another famous Charlton Action Hero (Son of
Vulcan) would be the one to find it! Many thanks.
Phil/Chrome


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...I was under the impression that Cannon first
appeared in " Heroes , Inc. " Number One about the very
late Sixties , then , had its lengthy run as a
newspaper strip in Army papers... I recently bought ,
although I can't access it just now , this gigantic
Fantagraphics TPB reprinting the entire OVERSEAS WEEKLY ( Or
whatever it was . ) " CANNON " , I recall it <br>saying
that " H. , I. " #1 was the first CANNON ,<br>and , I
don't recall a reference to a #2 at all ! Is this a
mid-70s reprint of Number 2 ? I recall the original
Charlton Spotlight being put out by CPL/Gang Publications
.


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...And , actually , you've reminded me that the
Robin Snyder " STATIC " TPB , which I also acquired a
ways ago ,<br> besides reprinting the...two ? Static
stories which first were in Charlton mags , and their
covers , both in b&w...also reprints the incidias to
those 1985-esque Charlton books , on their first pages
, just where the orig. comics had them ! Wow !
Thrill to the 1985 subscription rates , and , the
knowledge that , even in 1985 , good ol' George Wildman was
still Executive Editor ! Aren't us guys <br>who read
funny-book incidias cool guys !!!!!!!<br>( Actually , too ,
modern-times Archie incidias seem to reflect some disputes
about the company's ownership and the rights to Ol'
Freckled Redhead !<br> Ask me , if you want an explanation
, I get ignored enough here , just as regards my
interest in the " last gasp " period of ol' C. !!!!!!! -
not to mention every`body ignoring me rgarding Atomic
Mouse - humfpphh . )


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I remember Atomic Mouse. I preferred Mighty Mouse or Space Mouse, but AM was pretty good, as I remember.


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Heroes Inc. #2 says that it is published
annually, and it is not a reprint (supposedly). It is
magazine size, unlike #1, with a color cardstock cover and
B&W interior art. There is a Black Angel story by
Mike Vosburg, and a couple of pin ups by Anthony
Tollin. The inside back cover is a pin-up of some chick
with a knife, The Punisher, and Dominic Fortune drawn
by Howard Chaykan. Inside front cover is a modified
Dynamo picture by Wood.<br>I have the Fantagraphics
comic book versions of Cannon and Sally Forth.
<br>Yeah, it does say "CPL/Gang." in one place.


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Daglob I found your post interesting on the
Cannon periodical. Something you said brought back a
memory. You said a backup illustration contained The
Punisher, Dominic Fortune, and "some chick with a
knife"<br>While I haven't seen this illustation, if that woman in
the illo wears a dark outfit, with a mask, and blonde
hair, she is almost certainly Marvel's old character
THE HUNTRESS. That's right, I said Marvel's The
Huntress, not DC's. You see, in my collection is a black
and white one-shot magazine called MARVEL SUPER
ACTION#1. The lead story is a Punisher story, and has a
nice painted Punisher cover. It also has a Dominic
Fortune story, and finally a HUNTRESS story. A chick in a
black costume, a mask like zorro's, and long blonde
hair spilling over the top of it. Her black blouse, of
course was opened, exposing lots of cleavage. Remember,
this was a 70's b & w "adult" magazine. In it, The
Punisher story has him going to bed with a hooker, who
tries to stab him to death. He shoots her. Anyway, THE
HUNTRESS was Bobbi Morse. She only appeared once as THE
HUNTRESS. Later, her superhero identity was MOCKINGBIRD.
She later married Avenger Hawkeye, and was later
killed. My belief is that the illo in mag you mentioned
may be an ad for the one-shot Marvel Super Action,
even if it featured Morse in plainclothes. Can you
describe to me the appearance of the girl in the
illo?<br>Phil/Chrome


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...I had that " SUPER ACTION b&w too !!!!!!! (
Fairly valuable - and never reprinted , I believe - at
the height of Punisher-mania . ) <br>Sounds plausible
, and I never knew that was Mockingbird !!!!!!!!!


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It should probably be mentioned as well (as you
may find it interesting), that when Bobbi Morse was
THE HUNTRESS, she was also a SHIELD AGENT, or former
SHIELD agent-I forget which. Her lover at the time (in
MARVEL SUPER ACTION) was murdered, and the story therein
was about revenge. As they say, there is no wrath
like that of a woman scorned-or peed off, in this
case....


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Y'know, I have that mag too. I'll have to look it
up when I get home.<br>The knife chick does look as
you describe her. <br>Descriptions of HI #2 say
there's a Byrne pin up, but I haven't found it yet. I
think they're confusing the A. Tollin pin-ups with
Byrne.


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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:48:03 -0700
Subject: HUNTRESS/PRANKSTER
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Interesting, Daglob. So the illo does look as I
described, eh? Frankly, I thought she was a much more
interesting character as The Huntress than as the later
Mockingbird. Talk about watering down a good concept! Possibly
as DC had the rights to the Huntress name? Mayhap
they complained? I am almost sure that her second
appearance (as mockingbird) was in Marvel Team Up, but
interestingly, in MARVEL SUPER ACTION#1 (b&w magazine one-shot),
the character says she used to hang out with Kazar.
My question (to anyone reading this) would be: what
Kazar titles and #s did she appear in? Obviously, those
appearances would pre-date Marvel Super Action. Probably
Astonishing.... title or early 70's Kazar series. Hey, if anyone
really wants to impress Daglob and myself, if you can
provide that info, I will
be...well....ASTONISHED!<br><br>On another topic, I vaguely remember a Charlton
costumed superhero called THE PRANKSTER, garish,
multi-coloured costume, pretty sure drawn by Jim Aparo. Anyone
know where that appeared? Pretty sure it was a
one-shot. Heck, I may even have it.....I bet Dean can tell
me. Hey, Dean, I have hurled the gauntlet! What say
you, sir? Smile.<br>Phil/Chrome


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From: chromium_foil
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Subject: one shots
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Daglob, another interesting one-shot in my
collection, also a Marvel/Curtis b & w magazine, is MARVEL
MOVIE PREMIERE, which is a comic adaptation of the Doug
Mclure (actor)-starring the Land that time forgot. Nice
art in this one, and, while on the topic of rarities,
a few years ago (to meander incredibly
off-topic).... a few years ago my friend Dave Darrigo in Toronto
(he was a comics writer AND comics publisher (best
known for THE WORDSMITH comics series (which was highly
praised by Harlan Ellison).....anyhoo, a few years ago,
Dave sent me FREE an original Stan Lee "Secrets Behind
The Comics" book, published in 1947, incredibly rare,
and mint. I was flabbergasted. Dave and I used to
work together when I lived in Toronto, at Dragon Lady
Comics Shop on Queen St West. He was the manager, I was
the assistant manager. We have stayed in touch over
the years, and occasionally visit each other. Right
now he has a movie screenplay in to the major
studios......


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From: bee_ess107
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:45:46 -0700
Subject: Re: PRANKSTER
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&gt;On another topic, I vaguely remember a
Charlton costumed superhero called THE PRANKSTER, garish,
multi-coloured costume, pretty sure drawn by Jim Aparo. Anyone
know where that appeared? &lt;<br><br>Was that in
Charlton Premiere? <br><br>&gt;Heck, I may even have
it.....&lt;<br><br>I DEFINITELY have it if Aparo drew it! I'm not sure
about the name Prankster tho. I remember Punch &
Julee(?) as villains from Capt. Atom(?).<br><br>I bought
virtually all of the Giordano Charlton action hero comics
off the newsstands. <br><br>I disliked the Peacemaker
concept so I didn't buy that one but I regret that I only
bought Fightin' 5 intermittently.)<br><br>I didn't keep
Judomaster -- which I kinda regret. <br><br>& I didn't keep
my complete collection of pre-Ditko Silver Age Blue
Beetle nor Son of Vulcan nor Hercules.<br><br>But I do
have all the Charlton non-reprint Captain Atoms -- &
even all the 10 cent Space Adventures with Captain
Atom!!! I also have all the Charlton Thunderbolts -- I
really liked Pete Morisi's can-do action hero. I have
all the Giordano era Charlton Premiere issues,
Ditko's Blue Beetle, the Question, & various other
Charltons including various 10 cent Charlton westerns, some
Ditko weird stuff, & some other mostly bad Charlton
sci-fi.<br><br>I have all the Doomsday + 1 & Charlton E-Man
too.<br>& I have a stack of Charlton ghost comics from the
Giordano era to right after he left.<br><br>If I get a
chance, I'll search my chaotic back room & see if I can
find Prankster.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:08:02 -0700
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From: romeandshelly
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:08:02 -0700
Subject: I have found a new home!!!!!!!!
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Finally, people who share my passion for Charlton
Comics!!!! I just discovered this club, and I am quite happy
about it. I am a big E-Man fan, I value any comments
you have. Please check it out at
<a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:04:06 -0700
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From: chasmithalpha
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:04:06 -0700
Subject: Re: tiger,of JUDOMASTER and...
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What I really envy is that you are organized
enough to find a specific issue! In my place, I'd be
lucky to find a specific title! Some of us are just not
on top of things! One of these days I'll get
organized. But then...what about the surprise that occurs
when yopu accidently find a comic you were looking for
6 months before? Hmmmm...


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:25:01 -0700
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From: romeandshelly
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:25:01 -0700
Subject: new gallery
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I don't know if I posted this earlier, but I added an E-man gallery.<br>R


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:05:49 -0700
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:05:49 -0700
Subject: started a club called Art of Jack Kirby
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For those of you who enjoy Kirby's work; I
started a club. You can comment on his work on the
Eternals or the DC comics work...even Captain Victory. I'd
love to see comic covers from the Kamandi run and his
unfamiliar DC comics work. I'd like to see as many cover
scans from Kirby fans. You can comment on the scans I
have posted from the Eternals
at...<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/artofjackkirby target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/artofjackkirby</a>


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Welcome to the Charlton Bullseye. I would have
welcomed you before but Yahoo hasn't been letting me
access the latest messages. I could see them, but I
couldn't open them up. I especially pleased to see an
E-Man fan and (Hoorah!)an E-Man homepage. I loved your
site.<br><br>In particular I appreciate your link to the
Supernatural Crime page with the ongoing Joe Staton work. I
was totally unaware of this project. It looks dandy
indeed.<br><br>Glad to have you!<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:03:13 -0700
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:03:13 -0700
Subject: Started New Art of Jack Kirby Club
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To fans of Jack Kirby. There is a new place where
you can post your favorite Kirby covers and art. My
club is dedicated to all the works of the King. Any
and all scans would be appreciated. Go to
...<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/artofjackkiby target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/artofjackkiby</a><br><br> See you there!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:17:59 -0700
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From: lostonwallace
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:17:59 -0700
Subject: Original Blue Beetle creator dead
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For more details:<br><a href=http://www.povonline.com/ target=new>http://www.povonline.com/</a><br><br>Loston :(


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In my last post, the title is a little deceptive.
I really didn't mean to imply that Chuck Cuidera
was the original creator, only that he was "a
creator", as in "someone who worked on the Blue Beetle",
btw. Just wanted to clarify.<br><br>Loston


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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:21:23 -0700
Subject: prankster revisited
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Hi folks a few days ago I asked where in Charlton
comics a one shot called The Prankster appeared. Yes,
his name was definately the Prankster, it was a
charlton comic, featured a costumed and masked superhero
by that name in a multi coloured costume, and
definately by Jim Aparo. I also know it was a one shot, and
a backup strip, but can't remember WHERE he
appeared. Any takers?<br>Thanks phil/chrome


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Thank you sir!  I am glad you liked the E-Man site, of that site I am particularly proud.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:32:23 -0700
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From: klar_ken_t5477
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:32:23 -0700
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The Prankster made his first (and only)
appearance as a backup strip in Thunderbolt # 60 (Nov 1967).
The story was written with tongue in cheek by Denny
O'Neil. The art was by Jim Aparo. As chrome said, he had
a multi-colored costume: red, blue, green, black,
orange, and white. Too bad this was the last issue of the
title. This could have been a fun little
strip.<br><br>Jake


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:15:16 -0700
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From: chromium_foil
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Subject: where are y'all?
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HMMM. Is interest in this site waning? I haven't
seen anyone post to it in a little while. I recently
located a dealer who I got all Charlton Bullseyes
(magazine ,not the comic), the rare Charlton Portfolio
(contained the unpublished Ditko ted kord Blue Beetle#6),
AND all the Captain Atoms I still needed from his
earliest Space Adventures #33 up, originals. As you might
suspect, this all cost me a king's ransom...


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:43:32 -0700
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:43:32 -0700
Subject: Re: where are y'all?
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I'm right here. Glad to know you're still
checking in. Truth to tell, I've had little Charlton news
to share recently. I think of this club like I think
of the company that inspired it, in that it may keep
a low profile but it keeps on going.<br><br> I envy
your additions. I would love to locate a few more of
those old Caps and the last Bullseye still eludes me.
I'm sure they did cost a pretty penny (or several
hundred).<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:07:35 -0700
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From: romeandshelly
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My interest is still here!  Man, what I wouldn't give for the Bullseye's featuring E-Man!<br><a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:08:08 -0700
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:08:08 -0700
Subject: The new Legacy of Kirby club is up ...
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My new Legacy of Kirby club is
up.<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/legacyofjackkirby target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/legacyofjackkirby</a><br><br>Is there any chance that we can convince someone out
there to put the old Charlton comics on CD rom or an e
book format?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:15:03 -0700
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:15:03 -0700
Subject: More Mercury Man, can't get enough MM
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Any chance of seeing more Mercury man or any other space adventures? I love the Ditko comics.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:05:21 -0700
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From: atomjla
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:05:21 -0700
Subject: Keith Giffen's Peacemaker
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Does anyone know anything about Keith Giffen's
Peacemaker, and if it was different than Kupp's version? I
heard Keith was supposed to do a version for Action
Comics Weekly, and it never materialized. I think it'd
be cool if Keith resurrected good ole' Christopher
Smith , maybe even for the Suicide Squad. He's too
original of a character to lose and I'm sure Keith's
version would do him justice.


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From: sonofvulcan
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I'm pretty sure Giffen did the drawing of
Peacemaker for DC's Who's Who series. It was the classic
look as I recall. But outside of that, I'm unaware of
him doing the character elsewhere, but then I'm no
expert on the DC treatment of these characters.
<br><br>Dean


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Actually, Dean, even without looking it up, I
remember the visual of Giffen's Peacemaker. The helmet
went down over the nose (unlike the original)---and
the boots were fold-over blue---Cap America type, but
the fold overs went right down to the ankles. It
looked like a drawing by a 3 year old. Personally, I
think my 6 yr old nephew can draw better than
Giffen...<br><br>On another topic completely, all Canadians are
HORRIFIED at these cowardly terrorist attacks on New York,
Washington, and Pittsburgh. We are with our close neighbors
the Americans in this time of grief, sorrow, and
abject disbelief!!!<br>Phil Latter


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Thanks, Dean. But frankly, I simply got lucky. I
spoke to the right dealer at the right time:at a time
when he had ALL (wonder of wonders!!!) the charlton's
I needed and had sought for decades, and
coincidentally, at a time when I had the actual CAPITAL ($) to
buy them all. And that, my friend, is not often. When
I got the Bullseyes (magazines), I was surprised.
However, when I got the extremely rare CHARLTON
PORTFOLIO---I was ASTONISHED!!!<br>Phil As we all know, the
unpublished Ditko Blue Beetle#6 is in this. I wonder what the
(likely very low) print run was on this fanzine??


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Has Blue Beetle #6 been published in a fanzine or anything?<br><br>I'd love to have nice LARGE scans of the pages!!!!<br><br>Bob Stump


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I really like the way PAM (Pete Morisi) froze action in his art. <br><br>Thanks for the Thunderbolt cover pic on the Home page!<br><br>Bob Stump


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&gt;Any chance of seeing more Mercury man or any
other space adventures? I love the Ditko comics.
&lt;<br><br>Mercury Man isn't Ditko. Is Mercury Man Giordano &
Trapani, or maybe just Trapani?<br><br>I have all the
original 10 cent Captain Atom issues of Space Adventures.
If I can get my scanner working again, I'll try &
scan all the covers & post 'em to our
Photos.<br><br>Bob Stump


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I totally agree. PAM's wonderfully odd way of
presenting action was static (a valid criticism) but it also
had a elegance not usual with most comic art. They
almost have a sculptural feel, not at all unlike high
Greek statuary which seems to capture a moment in
time.<br><br>PAM's tendency to ceaselessly repeat his frames limits
his capacity for expression, but he certainly told
his stories in memorable ways.<br><br>Dean


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A lot of "old" comic book artists do this: Bruno
Premani, Curt Swan, Hal Foster, Wally Wood, Alex Raymond.
If you look close, the figures are usually in
balance, ready for their next action. It does look posed
(and may have been), but I don't really consider this
a detraction from the art. Other artists, like Jack
Kirby and Gil Kane for example, put their figures off
balance and make them appear more dynamic (stored enerngy
and all that). Again this isn't a flaw.<br>PAM seems
to be a kind of "unsung hero" of the comic world.
All of the work he did that I've seen was
well-crafted, well-paced, and highly competent. Maybe
"professional" is the term I'm looking for.


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I never knew of Mercury Man from Space Adventures
until someone in our "club" mentioned him. I looked a
Space Adventures cover that had him on it. Can anyone
tell me anything about him? Was he a superhero?
Recurring character. I am curious to know anything anyone
can tell me about the character, history, origin,
background. Thanks. Also, anyone care to discuss Charlton's 2
series (titles) each of Six Million $ Man, Space:1999
and Emergency? I don't have the Emergencies,but have
all the others. In the guide, the Emergencies are
worth more, probably cuz most people didn't collect
them, and now ergo I bet they are scarce. Some great
art in Six...and Space...Norem,Neal Adams, Joe
Staton, lots more like Gray Morrow, etc.<br>Phil


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I created a graphic to put on my websites in
honor of those we lost in this weeks attack. I created
an album called In Remembrance on this page. If
anybody wishes to use the graphic on their site(s),
please do.


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I have memories of the Space:1999 by John Byrne.
It was one of his first works after Doomsday:2001 if
memory serves...as Mr. Spock would say. I loved the
villians in the 1999 series and it was more action packed.
I even bought the first few Space: 1999 black and
white issues. Liked the Neal Adams cover for the Six
Million Dollar Man.<br>That was my favorite show at the
time. In 1975 TV was not very Science Fiction friendly.
I thought it was much better written than the
Incredible Hulk. The TV movies were good, however the good
Hulk episodes were far and few. I believe it must have
been a tv training ground for teaching writers to
write formula tv scripts. <br><br>This was before the
Star Trek reruns played endlessly in my town. After
the Motion Picture I started watching Star Trek. I
would only watch Spock episodes until the motion
picture. Though it was slow moving in story... I was
facinated...as Spock would say...with a space ship exploring the
unknown.


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I adored this series at the time. Now I see the
weaknesses, but back in those sf-starved times it was a
blessing indeed. <br><br>There was an illusion that it was
more "realistic" than say Star Trek. I think the new
Trek series actually will owe more to 1999 than to the
original Star Trek series itself. The use of shuttles, and
the very real sense that airless space existed just
beyond the bulkhead makes for a gripping environment for
storytelling.<br><br>The work that Staton and then Byrne did on the color
series is wonderful. Both clearly were allowed to play
with the concepts and opened up the storyline quite a
bit. The B&W series was more true to the TV show, and
thanks to Gray Morrow and company features some really
fine comic SF storytelling. The covers are
tremendous.<br><br>I believe we have a few great links that feature
the cover art for both the color and B&W series. They
are well worth checking out.<br><br>Dean


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This TV show is one of those which leaves an
indelible impression. Anyone who watched it can likely call
to mind the odd sound effects which were used
anytime Steve Austin made use of his bionic
powers.<br><br>This series and the Bionic Woman which soon followed
it were not to my mind Charlton's greatest, but they
were entertaining comics easily by today's standards.
The work of Neal Adams, Dick Giordano (no one
comments on Dick's return to Charlton I notice), and the
rest of the Crusty Bunkers (or Continuity Associates
if you will) was largely very well done. Jack
Sparling's later work was typical for the often overlooked
Mr.Sparling. He wasn't a great one, but he was by sheer volume
an important comic artist who more than once hit one
out of the park.<br><br>Dean


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I just recieved a pack of Charlton Comics that I
won on Ebay. One of them was Charlton Premiere #3
with Sinistro, Boy Fiend. I was looking at the letters
column, which was about Denny O'Neil's Children Of Doom
issue and I noticed a couple of familiar names. One was
Mike Uslan and I wonder if this is the same man that
worked for DC then later produced Swamp Thing and the
recent Batman movie series. Another name was Richard
Buckler. Could this be the same Rich Buckler that became
such a good artist for Marvel? <br> Now if we can only
get Mike to do a big budget movie about a Charlton
character (and not DC's version). And does anyone know what
Rich Buckler has been doing lately? Unfortunately I
haven't bought too many comics lately and have lost track
of him.


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I too love it when I spot a pro in a letter
column from days gone by. <br><br>I think Rich Buckler
has done some fill-in work for Marvel from time to
time (I don't immediately remember the projects) but
he has been taking a lot of heat in the fan
community for his wonderful skill at immitating Jack Kirby
and John Buscema among others. I love Buckler's work,
and consider him a very important figure in Marvel's
middle years.<br><br>Dean


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...Re-reading your last paragraph - Yeah , mebbe
th' COVER! art !<br> I remember , a while ago I
posted here about a<br>- doubtlessly pretty legally
questionable ! - site , in Great Britain , that had posted
100% of the Charlton comics run , covers and ALL
stores - even text pages too ! - of both titles , plus
lotsa other 1999'ers - even an RBCC parody ! - that I'd
found thru a posting at About.com's comics board -
However , going back to About just now , I couldn't find
( not having too much time ) the posting - Perhaps
whatever I put up here - " back in the day " ! - still
works ! Then , actually , I read yr. last parry , and ,
thought , " Oh , never mind , he has it up in th' Links
section awreddy !..."


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I'm still getting over what happened. I have a
distant relative who was working in the same area ..he
has to go back to work. Where the bulidings were not
affected. I just prey we can stop this madman or do
something. <br><br>I was watching it live on tv and was in
shock at the tv set. This is going to be remembered
forever. I prey that someone out there has a plan to stop
this from going on again.<br><br>This will not go away
and I've been working on my Legacy of Kirby club to
get things off my mind. Reading my old comics.
Working on cartoons and other things. If you think about
it too much you can drive yourself nuts. I can no
longer watch the coverage on TV anymore.


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kirk5computer....in reply, I couldn't agree. I
think that people all over the world are in shock as
well, including most Canadians, myself included. My
background includes Corrections and law enforcement and
military, yet I too have been very affected, resulting in
loss of sleep and appetite. It is madness that people
murder other people en masse (genocide), while calling
Americans THE BIG SATAN, and Canada THE LITTLE SATAN. All
those men, women, children....Did you know, for
example, the World Trade Centre buildings housed three day
care centres? As crazy as that is, the Taliban will
not give up the culprits, calling the leader a holy
figure! Along with the term Holy War. Talk about 2
contrary words!!!! Sheer madness!!


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kirk5computer: the first line in my last line was a typo. It should have read, "I couldn't agree more!" Sorry.


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Subject: POST SOME DITKO CHARLTON STORIES!
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Being a fan of Steve Ditko; can anyone post some of his work up here? I miss his old stuff a lot and wish someone would post something from one of his books.


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I will never see an Arnold Swartzenegger film
with the same point of view again. In his latest movie
he's a fireman whose family is taken out by
terrorists. Do we have to see this movie in the theater? The
news claims it'll be out next year. I say put it on
video for those who want to see it.<br><br>A Tim Allen
film is coming out next year with someone stealing
weapons. Do we really need to give these guys ideas?
<br><br>If the film makers want to really respect the
victims I say put them both out on video and forgo a
theater release. No time....even 3 years from now
...would be a good time to release a movie to see on a
large screen. I know they can't refuse to release a
movie. I wouldn't release them at all.<br><br>However
realistically, whose going to want to see these movies in light
of what happened? A year later ain't gonna make the
images of what happened go away. <br><br>A direct to
video release would garantee that the guys who have to
have that movie for their collection get one at their
local video or retail store. <br><br>I don't think
anyone will see Arnold's film. How many people saw End
of Days? The Sixth Day? He better go the Chuck
Norris route and have a TV show or do comedies.<br><br>I
can't watch these movies with the same eyes again. I
just say to myself I cannot pickup one of those
disaster action so-called epics without feeling sick.


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Those guys over there calling for a Holy War are
behind the times; there's been one since September
11th.<br>You can't blame the Taliban; after all, now they get
to earn all that money Bin Laden has been bribing
them with...


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I believe we have been in contact before, but i
can't remember the context or find any of the emails.
Please write me
at:<br><br>comictrades@hotmail.com<br><br>I have a question to ask you.<br><br>thanks,<br>Jim


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I just emailed Jim an answer to a question he had
about Charlton Portfolio (just received it in mail
recently from a dealer)...and I thought the rest of you
might also want to know: Charlton Portfolio, a rare
one-shot that contains, among other things, Ditko's
unpublished Blue Beetle#6, lists this zine in the indicia as
"CPL #8 & #9 double issue presents Charlton Portfolio"
The ramifications of this indicia are to me obvious!
This means that...CHARLTON PORTFOLIO, rare as it is,
is NOT A ONE-SHOT!! It means that there are at least
7 other issues out there, and possibly more! Does
anyone know what is in them???<br>Phil


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The dealer I got it from told me that Charlton Portfolio is "at least 4 times scarcer than Charlton Bullseye (magazine)#1


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I count myself very lucky to have a copy of the
Portfolio. I stumbled across it nearly two decades ago in
Ashville, North Carolina while I was visiting that city.
I'm not even sure I knew what it was when I found it,
but I knew right away I had to have it. As I
recollect it didn't cost me all that much way back
then.<br><br>The previous issues of "CPL" reference Contemporary
Pictoral Literature which was put out by Bob Layton, Roger
Stern, and the other guys who also did the Portfolio. I
have never seen previous issues in person, but Bob
Layton's website (there is a link for it in our Links
section I believe) has some images of previous covers and
some basic data on the publication.<br><br>To my
knowledge this stuff has no direct Charlton material in it,
though Rog-2000 does make appearances in a prototypical
form. When the guys at Charlton saw what the CPL guys
had done, they then got them to create the original
Bullseye.<br><br>That's what I can remember.<br><br>Dean


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Do you have any images of E-Man in that portfolio?


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Yes indeed. If I recollect correctly (I'm not
looking at the book right now) E-Man is featured on the
cover along with several other Charlton stalwarts. Also
there is an article on E-Man and Captain Atom analyzing
the characters from the perspective they both derive
their powers from atomic theory. This article has an
illustration by Joe Staton I think.<br><br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>     Is there any way you could scan the E-Man stuff and send it my way so I could post it on my E-Man site?  I would greatly appreciate it.<br><br>Rome


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My comics dealer friend (one of the largest, and
a senior adviser to THE COMIC BOOK PRICE GUIDE, in
business for over 25 years, had this to say about Charlton
Portfolio other issues in the series, when I asked him:
"CPL-that's Contemporary Pictorial Literature--is a fanzine
series! All other issues are NOTHING like the Charlton
Portfolio Double Issue! Most of the others are a lot of
text articles with some illos, on all types of comics,
not just Charlton. Some were in digest format. the
double issue I would guess (Charlton Portfolio, which is
issue "#8 & #9"), had a print run in the 5000 range,
whereas the other issues I would guess 100-500. The other
issues are VERY rare and almost never turn up. The most
interesting thing in other issues, are minor text illos with
Byrne art, etc. They are actually not very interesting,
beyond their rarity and art cameos. I believe they made
15 issues, but I am long out of all issues." End
quote.Hope this helps answer some questions I got emailed
about. Glad to help.<br><br>Phil Latter


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I almost forgot! Thanks to Dean for also supplying more info on my questions about the other issues of CPL. Thanks, brother!<br>Phil


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Y'know, folks, I was just sitting here adding
some insight about CPL and I realized that, as long as
I have been a member here, I bet most of us don't
know much of anything about each other, though we chat
at this site all the time. How about we share some
personal date about "who is who".? I thought that might be
interesting. Heck, in fact, I will start.<br>My name is Phil
Latter. I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. I am a
former graphic designer, correctional officer, police
booking officer, Canadian Navy Signalman, and currently
(and for the past 3 years, a Mortgage and Loans
officer with Canada's Canadian Imperial Bank of
Commerce.My girlfriend is not a comics fan but is amazingly
tolerant of my interests. <br> I have collected comics
since about age 5, and have been into this hobby now
for 36 years. Yes. That makes me 41. My entire huge
collection is housed in 6 foot high custom built bookcases I
built myself, and each one is on 6 spring-loaded
furniture wheels. (I am a self-taught carpenter.) When I
need to clean or dust, the bookcases can simply-big
and heavy as they are-be rolled out from the walls to
clean. Two rooms of my house are set aside for the
collection, every wall of each room-looks like a library.
Thus, easy and quick access, each mag and comic filed
alpha-numeric, so can find any one in half a minute. Each filed
upright like books, each in an individual bag. Each title
has a comic board sticking out before each title,
with the titles name on it. I also have a large action
figure, and memorandum collection. A few "gems" in my
collection include: an original golden age Green Lantern #1,
an original golden age Green Lantern Mart Nodell
drawing signed to me, framed on one wall. I commissioned
it at the 1986 San Diego comicon. It is pencilled,
inked and coloured also. Another favourite item in my
collection is an original copy of the 1940's Stan Lee book,
Secrets Behind The Comics, and Frederic Wertham's
Seduction of The Innocent. <br>In addition to comics, I am
a HUGE Zorro fan, and have a large Zorro
memorandum, toy and pulp collection. When it comes to Zorro I
collect anything and everything to do with the character.
I do not specialize in any one area for that
character. <br>Some of my favourite characters, other than
the Charlton action heroes, include Batman, Green
Lantern (Hal Jordan and Allan Scott), JSA, Daredevil
(Marvel's),Green Hornet, Phantom, Tarzan, and Popeye. I am these
days mostly a DC fan, in terms of collecting new
issues, but I feel Marvel comics have gotten better since
the Marvel Knights series of various titles. I felt
Marvels were terrible for years and years. I would enjoy
hearing about others' fave titles, "gems" in their
collections, and background. Simply put, let's get to know
each other a little bit. What say?<br>Phil


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Wow! how did you get to be a graphic artist? I
wanted to draw and paint on demand like that. I found I
have to do my own thing and try and sell paintings or
something that someone will buy at a craft show. I am far
from the point from making endless changes to please
an editor. I know am out to prodouce good work and
please my own artistic direction.


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Subject: tarzan
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Hi folks! I need some help with some info. I need
to know if Dark Horse ever completed the 8 issue
mini series Tarzan:Rivers of Blood. I have issues 1-4,
but not 5-8. I am not sure if they came out.
Sometimes a publisher starts a mini but never gets
finished. Gil Kane's Edge is one example. If you have 5-8
please let me know if they exist! Thanks. Phil


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From: james_s_moore2000
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:25:08 -0700
Subject: Dick Giordano returns to The Phantom
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Some news that might interest you all.<br>I have
posted here befor a few times...mustly about the
Phantom. Dick Giordano is currently illustrating a 32-page
Phantom story for Egmont, The Scandinavian publisher of
Lee Falk's classic superhero.<br><br>There will also
be a black & white English language version
published in Australia.<br><br>What do you think?


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Hi James! Can you tell me where you heard or read
about Giordano doing the Phantom? Will there be a copy
of this released in the U.S. and Canada, or most of
us never going to see it? I am wondering how this
came about???<br>Thanks Phil Latter


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...I'm interested ! I haven't checked that Aussie
Phantom site , for a while . They'd written about Tony
Isabella being hired for a new , American-produced ,
Phantom series , which , apparently , fell through...Then
, I think they may have written about another
approach announced for this American series . <br> But ,
of course , that's quite different from the ,
well-established , Swedish publisher doing it ! Who's the scripter
? A " regular " Edgmont scripter ? Aren't most
Edgemont stories considerably shorter than 32 pages ? My
only real exposure to them was that Wolf title , as
I've mentioned . Is it designed to be in black and
white ? ( The Wolf book was in color , until they ran
out of money in the last issue(s) and switched over
to black and white printing . )


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...Did he ever draw the Phantom before ? I re-saw
your headline ( Oh , I'm the same person as
wlllljoyyyyy...)...Actually , I thought that <br>(1) He was no longer head
editor at Charlton , when Charlton picked up the
liscence to it .<br>(2) When DC put out their series ,
actually , he was head editor at DC ( He's since retired ,
to concentrate more on drawing . ), then , but , I
thought , DIDN'T have anything to do with drawing it .
<br> Needless to say , maybe the Deep Woods' info
stores will tell me that he did !<br> Speaking of
newspaper-strip characters , DC put out a Modesty Blaise graphic
novel , in the mid-90s , drawn by Giordano - I have it
- His art fits this sort of , " glossy " , " spy "
thing well , I think . It had been announced as a comic
book mini-series first , but , never came out ( In the
US , anyhow . ) in that form - Frankly , I guess DC
felt that the standard comics shop audience wouldn't
buy it/what audience there was WOULD buy the TPB (
Trade Paperback ) , and , since they'd announced
it/presumably had nade a deal , especially with whoever owns
Modesty . they had to proceed with it ! I like it ! It's
the only Modesty I've ever really read , really (
It's , apparently , aan adaptation of the first MB
paperback novel , from the 60s? , and , re-reading it , I
noticed , at least for one , dial phones - So ,
presumably , keeping the 1960s setting ? ) .<br>Continuity
question , if , perhaps , a dumb one . One of the MB
paperback novels that I've seen listed , is titled , " The
Unlikely Virgin " , or similar . Is that referring to
Modesty herself ?<br>Does she have some Red Sonja-type "
issues " going on ?<br> Do you see the Anerican magazine
, " COMICS REVUE " , which reprints newspaper
strips - almost all continuity , and all old , EXCEPT
for the Phantom ? Dailies , in B&W . It's reprinting
a from-2000 story , about a hypnotic plant , now .
<br> To be honest , the VERY slow pacing/development
that I realize modern-day continuity strips have to
work within made the story a bit slow to catch on with
me - However , in the current issue , I finally ,
really , began to get interested !<br> And , speaking of
modern-day continuity strips about masked crime-fighters -
Perhaps I'm a hypocrite , or , I just got to know
Spider-Man before - For , I have a Yahoo! club , dedicated ,
specifically , to the Spider-Man newspaper strip
,<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thespidersyndicates target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thespidersyndicates</a> <br>Bye !!!!!!!!!!!


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I heard it from Paul Ryan who is also working on
the Phantom. Paul is a friend of Bob Layton...and so
is Giordano.<br><br>There will not be a copy
released in the US or Canada. However you can get the
Australian copy by mail order. I can find out how you guys
would do that but it should not be harder then when you
order from a US comicstore.


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Isabella is off the new US produced Phantom book.
The publisher Moonstone Books has a site with a
little info and some art previews. The only "known"
creator attached to the project Ben Raab mostly know wor
his work on Marvel's Excalibur and the Legends of
Hawkman mini. The interesting thing is that he is
actually a regular Egmont Phantom scriprer as well. The
Moonstone Phantom tittle is writtern for an older audience
then the Egmont books.<br><br><br>I have now idea who
the scripter is but I would be surprised if it was
not a regular Egmont writer. I bet it will be Claes
Reimerti senior writer and a BIG Batman fan. (He is also
the writer of the current Sunday stip) Most Egomnt
stories are about 31 to 34 pages and intended for colour
reproduction.


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I always tought that Giordano was the
editor......but I am probably wrong. Sorry about that. I am in
quite a rush but I'll respond to your other questions
and toughts tomorrow.<br>Here is teh link to the new
US Phantom
Publisher.<br><a href=http://www.moonstonebooks.com/ target=new>http://www.moonstonebooks.com/</a>


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There is a very sick picture on the internet. It
is a photo of a guy in a hat and sunglasses with a
backpack, standing on a balcony, a very ,very high
building. In the background there is a jetliner bearing
down on him eg: ready to crash into the building
several stories down, with the skyline of new york in the
background. the caption reads,FBI released this photo from a
camera found in the rubble. The picture is shocking,
until one realizes that the world trade did not have
apartment bldg style waist high balconies. It was enclosed.
No 110 skyscraper bldg would have waist high
guardrails that one could fall over, or encourage suicide
over.


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Are there any Korg fans out there? I loved Pat
Boyette's take on this very odd TV tie-in comic. He made a
truly silly comic into one of the 70's most underrated
adventure strips. <br><br>What do you all
think?<br><br>Dean


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...I assume you're saying it was a faked photo ? Got a link to it ?


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...RE; 1970s TV tie-ins , did you ever read
Valley Of The Dinosaurs ( THINK that's the title . ) ?
Got reished , by Harvey , during early-90s
DinoJurassic mania - A Hanna-Barbera 'toon of th' tiimmes -
And , speakin' o' HB...


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...DID , anybody ever read , or even see the TV
show of , Byrne's " Wheelie " ? Myself , I'm thinking
of " Speed Buggy " , which I don't think? Charlton
even issued ! Then , there was " The Funky Phantom " (
Which I've imagined turning into a modern , L/A , movie
. )...


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..om-Boom , from a band with a Bedrock
Bee-eeea-eeat...What lead to Charlton picking up the Hanna Barbera
account , anyway ? Evidently , it ended in tears ( With
H/B's forigen liscencees saying " THIS IS CRAP ! " ,
and...) , but , I guess , it certainly could have been
seen as the Big Time for C....H/B was , I guess , BY
FAR! , the biggest name in animation in the U. S. in
th' late Sixties...tons of ongoing network series ,
loads more recent past ones in syndication...Disney ,
by comparison , was<br>(1) going through their
post-1966 " WWWD ? " doldrums .<br>(2) Not producing series
for television , then , anyway . They never did until
the semi-mid Eighties , with Gummi Bears ? It was big
news when they did . Was it Eisner's ideer ?
Katzenberg's ?<br> H/B leaving Western/Gold Key marked the end
of a ten-year period - or , even more ! - when
WEestern , really , had had every major animated property
sewed up ? Did H/B have some whiff of Western's lousy
distribution ( As I've mentioned B4 - after re-jumping into
comics in 1971 , Gold Key titles were NOT CARRIED on any
newsstands in northern Westchester County , period , end of
story . ) , even tho people tend 2 accuse C. of being
poorly distributed ? ( Not - as best as I can recall ,
given that I wasn't - really - oh , irony ! oh ! - a
particularly deep buyer of Charltons ? ) Hnmn ?


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..." COMICS REVUE " magazine , incidentally ,
also reprints ( Old , I guess . But undated . ) "
Modesty Blaise " strips , a few weeks worth , which is ,
basically , what they do with everything , altho one strip
may rotate out for an
issue...............................


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Since it was a part of Charlton's , uh , empire ,
and it was oriented towards young people , certainly
, if in fact , a touch beyond the ' comic books "
age/the ones who moved on , does anybody have anything to
say about HIT PARADER magazine ? It is still in
business , I have established , tho I haven't bought any .
It , now , concentrates on heavy metal/hard rock (
Modern-day definition: Uh ,...Limp Bizkit , Korn , Slipknot
, Metallica , " Kurt Cobain Still Dead " . No , I
haven't , recently , heard much of it myself . ) , which
it did , starting from the early
80s...having...um...not the <br>most " intelligent "/" deep
"/whateveryouwanttocallit approach to writing about it . ( " DIO - King Of
Rock & Roll . " ) - Sort of going for the moron
audience , actually ! Oh , you snob . Snob , snob .<br>
Frankly , th' name o' th' mag suggests that it started
back in th' Frank-Sinatra-as-teen-idol years - the
1940s . I'm aware , actually , that it th'
middish-2-latish 60s it made what was , apparently , considered a
first-time attempt , by a newsstand rag , to be
something<br> of a " serious " rock 'n' roll magazine . ( This
being pre-CRAWDADDY , ROLLING STONE , whatever . ) It
stayed with the song leer-ics , though in a reduced
degree , into the heavy metal years , and , I
Supp-Hose(C) , stays with them still !<br> The CBA
retrospective mentioned that a country music magazine was ,
also , the only other asset left to sell of , at the
end . Anybody ? <br> My , haven't I been a , busy
little beaver , today !!!!!!!!!


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...sell ' off ' , of course...


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..., over at Earth 4 Starting Over...Umnm , my
comics are in storage now , and , since I can't
check...Maybe ( HINT FOLLOWS ! )<br> somebody who has a good
Blue Beetle collection , okay , okay , more
BBs<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> of<br>the pre-Ditko years , could contact me , at
waltsland_1999 , at this very portal , so that I could get the
details right , re: a villian I'm using , since my one ,
original , C. BB ( $10.00 ! ) , is , now , in storage ?


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For sure. Fred Himes, at the time a Boyette
associate, was the man responsible for the artwork on this
one. "Valley of the Dinosaurs" was never as successful
as Korg, because it cleaved closer to its original
source material and was played for a younger audience.
And let's face it, Himes wasn't the equal of
Boyette.<br><br>I have read that in later years the two men fell
out over a business deal and that Boyette felt some
great anitpathy for Fred Himes. Sad.<br><br>Dean


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I loved Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch! They were
one of Charlton's forgotten little gems. John Byrne
did the first two issues I think and Joe Staton
supplied the artwork for the rest.<br><br>Speed Buggy did
indeed get distributed for several issues. It may have
lasted longer than Wheelie. I have a number of those,
though I don't off hand remember if that is most or all
of the run. They were much more typical of the
Charlton Hanna-Barbara material and not the equal of the
inspired Wheelie.<br><br>Dean


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I have seen Giordano's Modesty Blaise Project. It
was scripted by Modesty's creator and writer Peter
O'donnel (I think that is his name). Funny you should
bring up Ms.Blaise since she is just like the phantom
EXTREMELY popular here in Sweden. She is featured monthly
in the Agent X9 comicbook. The original main
character Secret Agent X9 has pretty much lost his own book
to Modesty.<br><br>O'Donnel has been very
determained that only HE can write her. Egmont has tried on
several occations to get a similar deal to what they have
with the Phantom but O'Donnel refuses to. He recently
retired but gave Egmont a looong script he never
published with the instructions that if current and last
Modesty Blaise artist Romero illustrated it they could
publish it in Agent X9.<br><br>I have never as much
Modesty as other Swedes so I am afraied that I can not
help out with the title " The Unlikely Virgin
".<br><br>I have heard of Comics Revenue but I have never
seen an issue.<br><br>I swing by your Spiderman
newspaper strip club in a little bit.


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Here is some Phantom stuff you guys might find
interesting:<br>Planetary and new Captain America artist John Cassaday
painted a cover for the Scandinavian Phantom book a few
years back. Check it out I think it is really cool. Two
versions are displayed at the
site:<br><a href=http://www.johncassaday.com/gallery_misc_covers1.htm target=new>http://www.johncassaday.com/gallery_misc_covers1.htm</a><br><br>Classic Phantom artist Sy Barry visited Scandinavia a few
weeks back to promote the new hardcover TPB featuring
sunday-pages. He also contrbuted a painted cover tor the
regular Egmont
book:<br><a href=http://www.deepwoods.org/egmont/e0119.jpg target=new>http://www.deepwoods.org/egmont/e0119.jpg</a><br><br>Dick Giordano is just one of three old-time US
creators who are working with Egmont now. The other two
are former Will Eisner assistant, Marvel
staffmember/artist (Defenders, Conan, Transformers, Marvel horror
stuff etc, etc) and Valiant artist Don Perlin and Paul
(FF, Avengers, Flash, Superman) Ryan. Paul has his
first Phantom cover on-line (Colors by current Avengers
colorist Tom
Smith).<br><a href=http://www.paulryanart.com/phantomcolor.jpg target=new>http://www.paulryanart.com/phantomcolor.jpg</a><br><br>Don Perlins first Phantom issue is out in a month, so
I can scan and post some of that if you are
interested. The same goes for Giordano's stuff.


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Continuity question , if , perhaps , a dumb one .
One of the MB paperback novels that I've seen listed
, is titled , " The Unlikely Virgin " , or similar
. Is that referring to Modesty herself
?<br><br><br>The title Walt is thinking of is "The Impossible
Virgin" and no, it doesn't refer to Modesty. IIRC, it
refers to a mountain range shaped like a woman with her
legs spread. Real over-the-top action. At one point
Willie is tossed/falls out of an aiplane but he doesn't
get killed because he lands on a flock of sheep!!!


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Got another ACG comic at the local shop over the weekend. It's called "Heroes Ink.", and has a Nemisis story, a Magicman story, and a Fightin' 5 story. <br><br>Atomic Mouse is in there too.


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I saw a batch of them the other day myself. They
have some interesting stuff out there. I saw some of
Jim Aparo's Bikini Luv stuff and of course some great
horror stuff from Charlton. There was also a war
collection and a western one. They are tempting.<br><br>Dean


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Does anyone happen to know what year CHARLTON
COMICS started publishing comics? I know they published
other things besides comics but that doesn't really
interest me. I realize that previous to the charlton name
on covers the cover graphic was CDC. Anyone know?


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For lots of detail on this see the following link
to an article from Comic Book
Artist:<br><br><a href=http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09empire.html target=new>http://twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09empire.html</a><br><br>It says that John Santangelo Sr. began "Charlton" in
the 30's when he started printing song lyric sheets.
They started in comics in 1945. The company move to
Derby in the late 40's. I haven't had time to research
the "CDC" but my guess is "Charlton Distribution
Company" or something like that.<br><br>Dean


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...Note the part about what circumstances lead to Santangelo and his ( unamed ? ) partner meeting ! Comic books - such a PRESTEIGOUS business !!!!!!!!!!!


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If I remember correctly the initals CDC on
Charlton publications stood for Capital Distributing
Company. Somewhere I think I have a box with that on it
that was used to ship Charlton's magazines. But right
now I don't know where it is since some of my things
are in a storage unit. When I get the chance I will
try to find it to be certain.


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hello everyone, i am currently looking for charlton underdog and drag n wheels comics. If any one has extras for sale or trade I am interested. Lester aka underdog_2259


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Here is what my comics dealer friend (who is a
senior adviser to THE COMIC BOOK PRICE GUIDE), will have
to say in his annual market report about THE
CHARLTON PORTFOLIO in the next edition of the Overstreet
price guide due out in April: "Charlton Portfolio-a.k.a
cpl#8/9-IS RED HOT!, and currently selling for about $35
U.S. in VF."<br>Fortunately, I recently got a mint
copy from him for $30. U.S. Of course, with postage
and handling it cost more...


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Sorry, folks. CPL actually stand for CONTEMPORARY PICTORIAL LITERATURE. It says so inside CHARLTON PORTFOLIO#1, which is a CPL-gang publication


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Previously, a lot of folks here have posted their
opinions on ACG reprint titles. While I certainly respect
your opinions on these titles, I have an altogether
different opinion on them. Kindly read on. I would very
much appreciate some feedback on this. Earlier,
several months ago, I was buying a handful of ACG titles,
and enjoying them. However, the PULP ACTION title
reprinting the old Shadow newspaper strips kept--each
issue---printing them out of sequence, and in fact often published
following issues with parts of stories that had already
appeared in previous issues. They didn't make this mistake
once, but numerous times. Also, pages would be printed
out of sequence, parts of some Shadow stories were
reprinted accidentally over and over and over again, in
each subsequent issue. I also don't care for how they
don't even number the issue numbers on the cover.
Finally, the recent HERO Comics#1, reprinting a nBLACK
ANGEL story from the 1940's, (now that I have read it),
the ending of the story doesn't even appear!!! Thus,
the resolution of the story is left hanging. There is
no blurb stating the story will be continued in a
following issue. It looks like they simply reprinted a
story without even looking at it. Further, backup
stories never (or seldom) carry the same (or even a
similar theme) to the main story. Covers are mostly
lifted as well, and I don't feel covers are alluring.
Let's face it---that is what sells a book, right? Black
and white, cheap paper, overpriced, and FREQUENTLY
the stories are incomplete. I have now bought my last
ACG comic. I am tired of getting burned. What do the
rest of you think? Phil


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Here is a question that just occurred to me: most
or all of us probably know that the 1960's
unpublished Captain Atom #90 was subsequently published
several years later in 2 parts---part one in Charlton
Bullseye#1, and part 2 in Charlton Bullseye#2, Ditko's old
pencils on that story finally inked years Later by John
Byrne. What I would like to know is---what happened to
the unseen COVER for Captain Atom#90? As, it was not
published/reproduced in any Charlton Bullseyes. And as far as I know,
nowhere else, either. I wonder if a cover for #90 was
ever done. Anyone know?


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I don't disagree with that. Are you thinking
about the discussion here about the what "CDC" stands
for. CPL is the fan organization and had no connection
to Charlton before the 70's. The CDC label appears
on Charlton's in the early 60's.<br><br>Or am I
confused again? Could be.<br><br>Dean


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I can't argue with this. I don't buy them because
they look shoddy for the money. (Shoddy I don't mind,
but I don't want to pay a lot for it.)<br><br>But for
Charlton fans they are a place to go for a taste of the
old magic.<br><br>Dean


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...I don't recall running into the
some-strips-deleted/( and , especially , ) out of order/" re-reprinted
" that you tell about - I haven't gotten the
Shadow/" Pulp " comic , in some months , although I
believe I - still ! - have it , on my shop , box !!!!!!!
I can cerainly emph. witha complaint like THAT ,
likewise the Dark Angel one . <br> However , as for the
back-ups , I think that;s sort of neat !!!!!!! - Well ,
maybe . - Price-wise , I don't suppose any price lower
than $2.95 is , realistically , possible , and comic
books are always printed on ( hey , I think you're
non-American , so...) " bog paper " , no ? That's funnybooks !
As 4 th' covers , I , <br>GUESS , the " re-used
images from inside of the books " thing , that I guess
you are talking about ( besides , yes , probably
reflecting " too cheap to hire a new artist !!!!! " !!!!! )
, is , espec. for the " public domain material "
(?) thing , partly a reflection of the " carrying off
corpses from the field " P.D. asthetic/legal
whotsittss...Remember those swap meet/99c discount store videos of old
cartoons ( inc. Superman , Bugs . ) that went out of their
way to say , on the sleeves , " graphic on cover is
an image taken from the actual cartoon and not a new
drawing " ????? Partly a peculiar legalism thatways ,
thinks I .


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I've been one of the ones complimenting ACG for
getting the old original ACG and Charlton stuff back in
print, but I don't blame you for the way you feel. I
didn't get Pulp Action, because I already had the run of
reprints Eclipse did ten years ago; I had no idea how
badly they had done them. Recently, they published
Heroes Ink., which starred Nemisis, Magicman, The
Fightin' 5, Mr. Mucsles, and had both an Atomic Mouse and
Atomic Rabbit story in it. At least one page (the last
one) of the Magicman story is missing, and I feel
kinda put out, even though Magicman has never been one
of my favorites. I'd have given up the atomic
animals stories to have the resolution to the Magicman
story (I mean, I KNOW he wins out in the end, but...).
<br>My biggest complaint with them has been their
distribution and publication schedules: I order a title, and
three months later it is "offered again", and three
months after that it is available in a "pack", with
three other comic books that I may not want, or it
appears in a trade paperback with a lot of stories I may
not want. Or it may just be cancelled like Joe
Kubert's "The Green Berets". Ot it may sell out like the
2nd and 3rd issues of Gil Kane's "Star Hawks"
(fortunately, I bought the paperback collection YEARS ago).
<br>ACG needs someone who knows what they are doing all
through the business; I get the feeling that someone
sometimes just throws something together and publishes
it.<br>I apoligize if it was my doing that you purchased
these books; I didn't mention a lot of the flaws with
the company, and I probably should have. I accepted
the bad parts to enjoy the good parts, and can
understand if you don't think it's worth it. That's part of
the reason I read very few contemporary Marvel or DC
comics these days.<br><br>Bill


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The casual disregard the folks at ACG have for
their comics reminds me of another company we all
remember and love...Charlton. Given the wild and wooly way
the Big Red C put out their comics, ACG might just be
the perfect successor. <br><br>Dean


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Dean, I take back what I said about---in terms of
only wanting to know about the comic book (side)
beginnings of Charlton. Your explanation and link were not
only comprehensive, but very interesting as well.
Thankyou for it!<br>Phil


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Yeah, what he said.


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For those of us E-Man fans, I have updated the Story Review page of my E-Man site.<br><a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


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You are right, Dean! I had forgotten that the
older Charlton's (of which I have many)---had a cover
logo which was, simply, CDC---and a very tiny "logo"
at that. I think possibly we are all correct---CDC
may possibly have stood for Capital Distribution
Company, and the later CPL gang publications---using the
same letters---stood for Contemporary Pictorial
Literature. What do you think? Also, Dean and Mr
Waltland---not sure if that is your real name, sorry---while I
don't necessarily agree with your respective opinions
on ACG---I certainly respect them. But I (in a
kidding way)---wonder, Dean, if you were kind of kidding
when you said that ACG is a natural successor to
Charlton. Yep, I know what you mean that both seemed to
have a blatant desregard for production, but that is
not necessarily a compliment to either company. But I
know what you mean. Frankly, I wonder if the folks at
ACG even proof-read their publications to see if
pages are out of order, incomplete, etc. I suspect not.
<br>The Charlton Portfolio, by the way, goes from page
18, and the very next page is page 22. There are no
pages missing, in fact, page "22" appears on the
opposite side of page 19. Ergo, page 19 up are therefore
simply mis-numbered. See what I mean? So yeah, I see
what you mean. But---which company would you have bet
on in a horse race?


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correction: page 22 appears on opposite side of page 18


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No daglob it is not your doing that I purchased some ACGs---I was getting them before you mentioned them. I have now simply given up on those. No worries. Thanks for your insight


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For sure. My comments on ACG and Charlton were
meant in jest. Poor production quality is a hallmark of
comics over the decades. There is so much chatter these
days about quality papers and full-bleed pages and
whatnot, that the pure business aspects of the industry
are forgotten. Comics have been cheap entertainments
produced at high speed for a less than completely
discriminating audience. That is a tradition some are ashamed
of. I think that breakneck attitude is what gives
comics their outsider appeal. They are the last remnants
of the pulp traditions, and those traditions are
decidedly low-brow.<br>The more I read about Charlton the
more it is apparent they cared little about their
comics. Only a blessed handful took the time to nurture
the characters we remember and cherish. But that very
lack of permanance and against-the-odds aspect is what
gives Charlton comics some of the charm they have. They
are fun, because it never ocurred to anyone they
should be anything different. <br><br>Dean


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I read and collect pulp reprints, too, and one of
the things so many people who worked in that era say
is that no one ever thought that the things would
still be popular years later. Most would be happy if
the stories were popular for one month (until the
next issue came out). Yet, there were people to whom
it was unthinkable to do less than their best, just
because the pay was low, producion was cheap, and shelf
life was a month (or less in the case of The
Shadow).<br>Funny, but until I came across this club, I hadn't
really thought about Charlton Comics for years. They
never were my all-around favorite, but I'd have to to
include Captain Atom, The Question, and Ditko's Blue
Beetle in my list of favorite characters. Still, it was
becasue of Dan Garrett's Blue Beetle that I started to
draw (I traced this BB pin-up over and over,
re-designing the costume so that it was Batman, Superman,
Spider-Man. Then I decided to change the pose...), and a
Champions RPG character of mine is named The Scarlet
Scarab.<br>Even now, though, I only own a few Charlton Comics,
and most of those are '60s Captain Atom reprints.
After I get finished finding all the THUNDER Agent
comics, I'll have to get to work on Cap.<br>I did find a
Son Of Vulcan comic with costume design by Dave
Cockrum.


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...Yeah . In the 80s-ish , I expressed fondness
for Malibu ( the loosely related - Adventure , etc. -
whole group of companies that were , eventually , "
logicalized " , under one umbrella , as Malibu . ) - for much
the same reason . The " USA network of comics
!!!!!!!!! "


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The Dave Cockrum sketch is fun, and likewise in
Blue Beetle there is a costume redesign by Alan Lee
Weiss another future pro. Those old Blue Beetles really
lend themselves to tracing. The outlines on the main
characters were very thick, almost as if the book were
intended as a coloring book. These few lines and the
bright colors are what make these old Charltons stand
out in my opinion.<br><br>Dean


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I chanced across the first appearance of Sam
Glanzman's "The Iron Corporal" yesterday. Just finished
reading it and the Willie Franz story is indeed a bit
more hard-hitting than the typical Charlton war tale.
Very impressive first showing (Army War Heroes #22)
though they do pull the old Charlton trick of using the
splash page as the cover. These rarely work out very
well.<br><br>Dean


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...Trying to pay , only once , for two pieces of art ??????? Could you , if it's doable , post both th' cover , an' th' splash , mebbe ?


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Does anyone know if ACG publishes original
material? I have a vague idea for a story that would put
some of Charlton's Ghost Hosts together with some of
the original ACG characters. For some reason the
local comic shops don't carry the ACG books any more.
And does anyone know if ACG has a web site? I heard
that they were supposed to start one.<br>Thanks for
the help.<br>Randy


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They have had a house ad for some time announcing a forthcomming web site. It's been so long, I haven't looked for it in awhile. Maybe...


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...Re; original material , 4 da " longest time "
, they ran a house ad announcing a Herb Jeffries
comic , an " archival recreation of a comic that never
was " , which , PRESUMABLY! , meant an original . (
Herb Jeffries - still alive , apparently - made
several all-black cast B Westerns in the 30s and 40s - I
've never seen them myself ! )<br> Likewise , for the
Web , a ways ago I sent - at a different Webdress - a
letter to the AOL address they gave - at that time , I
got a reply , saying something to the effect of " we
don't have a Web site up yet . but . we , will...and ,
contact us in ( a more precise time was given then , I
guess ) a few weeks , for our newsletter " , or
something like that .<br> I never got around , I guess , to
contacting them back , from there - And , other time(s)
<br>that I contacted the Webdress I got " no reply at all
" , that Genesis can certainly come up with a reply
for every possible occasion , don't you think ?<br>
CBG's " Comics scheduled/Comics conformed as shipped "
column still lists ACG - I haven't been to my shop for a
while , and , since I'd cut down on special orders , a
lot less ACG has been there ! Following you ,
following me...


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Unfortunately, Randy, ACG is solely a reprint
company. They do not print any new material. That would
require paying $ to contributers, legal contracts, etc,
etc, etc. And, at least in my opinion---but I am not
parading these options as fact---ACG is a cost cutting,
low cost operation, reprinting books at very low
cost, low maintenance, and with great carelessness, I
might add. (See my previous posts) Phil


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Welcome Gladeinwyoming (Hello Jon!) and Randyh 17404 to the Bullseye. Glad to have you all with us. <br><br>Welcome again!<br><br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>Thanks for the warm welcome to the ACG club. Did I get that right?<br><br>See you around,<br>Jon<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/internationalcomicsclub target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/internationalcomicsclub</a>


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I'm answering this question 7 months after it was
asked, but the first Charlton I remember reading was a
licensed property too. HEE HAW!. I don't know who did the
artwork, but it was pretty good. Cover price of 15c, so
HEE HAW might have already been in syndication by
that time. I think it was issue #7(?). Hee Haw ran on
CBS-TV for 2 seasons from 1969-1971 and died the
unnatural death of all the rural TV shows (Green Acres was
my fave!) on CBS in 1971. Thanks Fred Silverman.


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...Was HH carried by your local TV outlet at an
unusually late , or otherwise inaccessable , timeslot ? It
, famously , went into first-run syndication after
CBS dropped it , and ran into the early 90s ! (
Considerably more successfully , I might add , at being an
hour-long , first-run , syndie , in that era when the " big
3 " were , FAR , more powerful...than another C.
star , SPACE: 1999 , was . ) Especially if you lived
in the South then ( I lived in ( the TV station area
of ) New York City , and it was carried there ,
though at like 11:00 AM Saturday morning , on a ( then-
) independent ( Now a WB - I THINK . ) .<br> I
never watched HH myself , after casually watching it
during its network years , when , I think , its LAUGH-IN
lineage ( and animated segments ) was more apparent/a
bigger factor, until the early/mid-90s , when I watched
re-runs of then-recent seasons ( Actually , I think that
by that time it may have already been out of
production , but , ) on Nashville Network .<br> Was th' HH
comic good , on the , GGA front ?


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...I should complete the sentence/thought: " If
you lived in the South , then , it must have been
carried , locally , assuming " normal " conditions <br> -
After all , even in the Metro New York City area..." .
However , you , probably , got that .<br> Hey , that DID
, raelly!...lead to a plug for a club I
have:<br><br><br><br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/turnonwithturnon target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/turnonwithturnon</a><br><br><br> Dedicated to the " LAUGH-IN "-imitating " 1969 ,
okay " TV show that qualifies as the shortest-lived TV
show EVER !!!!!!!!!<br> And , in the " LOST CAUSES "
file , not 2 mention th' <br>"
Clubs-I-Joined-More-Or-Less-<br>On-The-Spur-Of-The-Moment-And,-Basically,-Never-<br>Went-Back-To " front:<br>
<br><br><br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tnncmtfansupport target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tnncmtfansupport</a><br>
and<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/countrymusictelevision target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/countrymusictelevision</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> I've got my TV/VCR in storage now , never mind
not having cable , but , when TNN , basically ,
dropped all country music content to become a " recent
past reruns " station , plus racin' an' rasslin'...my
70-ish aunt ( Whom I'm not too close to , but...) was
POd ! Well , at least she till has Reege...And
Pat/Vanna ( She quite likes game shows . ) .


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...Whoops !!!!!!!!!<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/cmttnnfansupport target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/cmttnnfansupport</a>


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...Shucks , and there I'd thought I'd found th'
kinda goil I could bring home to Maman , as Jack
Kerouac called his ( Momma...Momma...I said GET UP ! Get
out of that rocking chair , or , I won't force your
neckbone back in , next time it falls out of...Well , YOU
know !!!!!!!!! ) . Well , there's always my faithful
Lady Death lifelike poly/cotton blend 6-ft. doll with
the rotating b****** and the lifelike you-know-what !
( She NEVER says no ! ) <br> Just th' thing , to
keep me warm , durin' those co-ool , co-oold San
Francisco nights ( Yeah . Go belive Eric Burdon , why don't
you . )...


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...it's " poly/SPANDEX blend " , actually...<br>( " SPANDEX " is a registered trademark , <br>of the...)


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Back when I started reading comics, there is no
telling which ones were Charlton. Hey, I just knew the
characters. Superman and Batman were at one company,
Huckleberry Hound and Mickey Mouse were at another, and then
there was "everybody else". And although I know I read
Dan Garrett/Blue Beetle, I'm not sure which was the
first... maybe #3 with Mr. Thunderbolt.


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...And another thing...Is Modesty Blaise from
North Africa/Arabian country ? I thought...(
Again...have only read the DC , first paperback-adapting , GN
! ) so...Why's she so white/Brit looking ? Is she
supposed 2B the illegitamite(sic!) daughter of a Britisher
, that was stationed in North Africa ??? I guess
the shiny black eyes , and hair , may B supposed 2
indicate her Arab-ness...But , she's seen as kind of a "
Swinging Sixties " British character , U. S.-side , anyhow
, I'd say !!!!!!!<br> It's been , pointed out ,
thet Len Wein basically 100% ripped off her origin for
Storm's ( X-Men . ) . <br> Can't speak for Modesty's
position re: Tony Blair , the Labour Party , and fox
hunting !!!!!!!!!!!


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Modesty Blaise's actual parentage and ancestry is
completely unknown, even to her, although she has a mix of
asiatic and european features; I don't recall any
specific mention of Arabic ancestry, though. She grew up
in a refugee camp in Greece during the War, and had
even forgotten her own name, until around the age of
12 she escaped from that camp and soon met an old
man who she took care of. He had been a professor,
and taught her everything she knows. He was the one
who gave her the name Modesty, and chuckled as he
gave it. She chose her second name after Blaise, the
tutor of Merlin the magician when he was still a boy.
After the old man died, she became connected to a gang
leader named Louge, and when he died, she became the
leader of this gang (not a street gang, of course, but a
gang of criminals). She was a brilliant tactitian, and
within two years the group had become The Network, and
had divisions in many countries. The Network dealt in
many crimes but NEVER drugs or prostitution. Modesty
loathed human degradation. She later met Willie Garvin, a
brilliant fighter with an unfocused anger to the world. She
bought him out of jail and re-shaped him within six
months to be her right-hand-man. Finally, it came to a
point where Modesty Blaise could retire and split up
The Network to her section chiefs, and live a life of
ease... until Sir Gerald Tarrant of British Intelligence
contacted her for help.<br><br>Which is when the story of
Modesty Blaise truly begins... <br><br>Doc


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A pretty darn good synopsis, Doc! The only thing
you left out is that the Modesty strips (and novels)
are a pretty good read for people to check out.
(There are multiple reprintings available, from
currently a newspaper comic strip reprint magazine to the
great Ken Pierce books (everyone should check his
website for comic strip reprint books!)). The Modesty
character herself is a great fantasy character--the arch
criminal who fights for justice. I can't imagine anyone
who likes comics would be unpleased by the strips,
though I suppose the most fanatic super hero fans might
find them dull (not enough flying around). And for
those who like good spy/mystery stories, the novels are
also worth reading. (Warning--see the 1966 movie
starring Monica Vitti as Modesty at your own risk).


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The good news is, though, that ACG at least
reprints some pretty good material which would otherwise
never be seen again. I'm especially glad they are
reprinting as much Basil wolverton as they are. We have a
glut of reprint material these days but mostly the
decision about what to reprint has to be made with an eye
to satisfying fans who have a taste for the worst
super hero stuff, leaving maybe 90% of past comics in
the basket labelled "unpopular". It's good to see a
publisher willing to put out material guaranteed not to be
attractive to most comic readers who have come of age since,
say, 1990. I don't resent the poverty row feel of ACG.
In fact, since much of the material is honestly
"grade B", the low-class "feel" of ACG has a certain
cachet, rather like an old Ed Wood film. (Of course,
that's just my opinion). Anyway, personally, I would
rather buy a ten dollar book of ACG material than
several dull issues of current Dc/Marvel product. <br> I
too, wished ACG would offer some new material, if that
material could maintain the spirit of the 50s and 60s
stuff they are reprinting. Wouldn't it be great to do a
Captain Atom story, for example, so faithful to tyhe
original stories that it could almost have been written
and drawn in the 60s? Or, similarly, wouldn't it be
fun to do some sf stories that recaptured the 50s
anti-communist paranoia, just for the fun of doing it? Not
likely, I know. I'm just saying it would be neat to read
and fun to do.


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...Thank you to both . ModestyFlick-wise , I've
heard of an early-80s U.S. TV pilot , as well . <br>"
Asiatic " is being used in this ( in the U.S. especially
" ? ) somewhat archaic meaning of " Middle Eastern
( or Ind/Pak. ? ) " , isn't it ????? She and Willie
are supposed to be closeasthis ,
spiritually/intellectually speaking , and so , have TRANCENDED the desire to
do bumpy-bumpies/" osh-osh "/the beast with two
backs with each other , am I correct ? Maybe , in a
cell , oncet or twicet , in the past ???????


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...Again , I assume that this Herb Jeffries comic...assuming that it ever made it out , or ever will...is a new comic ? " An archival recreation of a comic that never was " , 'member ?????


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...I assume that Secret Agent X9( is the King
Features Syndicate character , who , origiunally<br>drawn
by Alex Raymond and scripted by Dashiell Hammett ,
started in the 30s , became known as Secret Agent
Corrigan , and , eventually , was drawn ( at different
times ) by both George Evans? and Al Williamson...and ,
who , I thought , had seen his syndie strip
discontinued a long time ago ? Maybe that same Swede. company
that does the Phantom got the rights 2 do him ? ( And
, as U pointed out , he's mostly out of his
comic?...Just as , at least until recent years , there was ,
apparently , a comics anthology mag. in France called TINTIN
, which , since no T-T stories have been done since
Herge died , never? featured T-T anymore , but ,
retained the name ?<br> Does the X9 re-reprint old Modesty
stuff , if O'Donnell doesn't want...Only one ( in
recent years ) U.S. newspaper has run the strip...A
Detroit newspaper ( Presumably , at least in part ,
trying to get some Canadian spillover readership ? ) ,
and , funnily enough , a recent issue of CARTOONIST
PRO-FILES magazine that U saw had an article , that , as I
recall , indicated that that was still the case
!!!!!!!!!


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In my case, it is hard to remember what Charlton
comic I saw first, but it was most likely one of the
sanitized horror comics right after the code came into
effect or possibly one of their pre-code horror books;
my older brother used to buy a wide variety of
comics and they were always in the house as I was
growing up. The other possibilities are that it may have
been a Charlton war comic or a Charlton western. The
first Charlton comic I looked forward to finding new
issue was 'Gunmaster', who unfortunately wasn't around
long.


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The official line is that Willy Garvin is too much in awe of Modesty to think of her "that way"; and has his own rotating harem to keep him busy. (Only in fiction...)


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Well, instead of an ACG reprint, we have
Thunderbolt (formerly Son of Vulcan? Oh No!) #51 (I think).
It's the one with Evila. Prime PA||| art, and I still
remember the chill I had the first time I read the last
line of the story.


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I'm not sure what you mean by GGA front? "Good
Girl Art" front makes sense, if that's what you're
asking. No, it was pretty standard stuff, I recall the
art looking alot like the HB licensed stuff that
involved HUMAN characters and not funny animals: Speed
Buggy, Scooby Doo. I know that one of the Charlton
artists at the time, who I believe did a lot of the
licensed material from 70-74 at Charlton, was also a
Country Singer, fronting a band in his spare time. I
don't recall the guys name, but he was probably the
artist on Hee Haw. But to answer MY question, if it
wasn't yours: No there wasn't alot of plunging necklines
and heaving bosoms, but if you like Daisy Mae from
Little Abner, you'd like the treatment of Misty Rowe
(who made B-movies, Gunilla Hutton (who made B-movies
under her real Dutch name)and Lisa Todd (who was in the
bomb of all cult movies-the Doll Squad)got from an
artist who was respectful of the material.<br>When I was
a kid, I remember Hee-Haw but only as a syndicated
show. In the Charlotte NC market, it broadcast every
Saturday evening at 7pm on WSOC Channel 9-Home of Joey the
Clown!<br>If I keep meandering, I'm gonna be kicked out of the
club!


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&gt;If I keep meandering, I'm gonna be kicked out
of the club! <br><br>Like a guy who uses "Cash
Flagg" as part of his name would even want to be a
member of a club that would have him. Almost as bad as
using "Larry Buchanan".<br><br>And speaking of movies,
I know that Charlton did Gorgo, Konga, Reptilicus,
and Destination: Moon, but did they do any other
movie or TV adaptations? I remember that Dell/Gold Key
seemed to do most of them, but what about the Derby
boys?


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Is that a nod to the Psychotronic I jes detected.
By the way, I think Warren Sattler drew the Hee Haw
comic. He's the guy who was the Country Singer I
think!<br><br>Country Like Conway Twitty and Ferlin Husky who also made
some B-movies for some family in Florida whose name
eludes me.<br><br>CashFlagg


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...Yepper , I mean Good Ghoul ( Ooops ! Still thinkin' of my beloved Lady Death ! Sorry , darling ! ) , uh , Girl , Art...


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...About the only ones I've heard of !!!!!<br> In
fact , it's occured 2 me , that , th' late 50s/early
60s were th' heyday of " Giant Monster "
moo-viies...but , there seem to not have been v. many adaptations
of them , and , NONE from Dell ( The split 'twixt
Dell and Western/Gold Key din' happen 'til 'bout '63
or so , so...) - Were they considered a lil' too "
naughty " for clean-livin' Dell ? <br> 'Member , Charlton
was , rather , a B-picture studio of th' comics biz -
if not C !!!!! Actually , heck , Reptilicus ( which
, i guess , i've never fully seen ! ) was
considered so bad , that , IIRC , American-International
SUED its producer for delivering an unreleaseable
product , before it eventually made it out !<br>( Since I
know you're there , I'm cont.'ing th' topic of' movie
adapt-os , over at th' Dell/GK cluubbo , to keep this "
on-topic " , an' s*it<br>sort'o like daat deere...! )


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...Gonna Twitty Tonight...My mother likedd Conway
T. quite a bit , later on...Did he do v. many
mmoo-vies , especially after his r'billy period ?<br>60s ,
regional , country music-market-oriented cheapies ? I once
, IIRC , had a video of " PLATINUM HIGH SCHOOL " ,
with Mickey Rooney - except , mebbe , I think I'm ,
combining , " P. H. S. " w/a Rooneyfliicqque where he was
searching for his son's killers at the military school that
he'd been at , an' CT was a cadet - basically did
little more than spin to one of his records played on
the jukebox at a maltshop scene - was that " PHS "
???????<br> I've had ( WAY , brief ) letters , published in
Psychotronic Video , and been " thank "'d for notifications
for the Never To Be Forgotten ( obituaries ) section
. Matta'a'fact , I think , it's conceivable , the
next/latest - don't it come out in Oct./Nov. ????????? - ish
might have some " contribution " , in that sense , from
me .<br>I posted , here , perhaps before you and
Daglob were here , about seeing " GORGO " , again , on
this way peculiar syndicated show rerpackaging (
mainstreamier end of ) " Psychotronic-era " movies called Off
Beat Cinema , B4 . I don't know if it's , still , on ,
however...


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I think all Conway's movies were DURING his
rockabilly period, though I seem to remember he did an
episode of Columbo once, and was always cast in 70s TV
(Movin' On, BJ &the Bear, Concrete Cowboys (?)) whenever
Nashville location shooting was required.<br>(Back to
topic)-Conway never appeared in the Hee Haw comic, nor were the
rotating guests ever featured in the comic. The Charlton
format was slightly different from the show. Think a
muppet comic where the artists pencil in the legs of the
muppets even though you never see them. So the same
retreaded jokes could be used from other Charlton comics.
i.e. Roy Clark helping Gordy Tapp buy a used car, etc,
and referring to each other by their real names.
<br>Topic of Hee Haw now virtually exhausted-----


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I haven't seen Off Beat Cinema, but used to watch
The Incredibly Strange Film Show. That's where I saw
an interview with Cash Flagg.<br><br>I wonder why
Charlton seemed to get, not just the rights to do movie
adaptations of Gorgo, Konga, and Reptilicus, but permission
to do ongoing series starring them. Destination:
Moon being a one-shot makes it the oddball.<br>I also
hadn't thought about the fact that during the monster
craze of the '50s, there weren't comic adaptations of
any of the great (and not-so-great [but I have 'em on
tape anyway]) monster or s/f movies. Where are Dell's
adaptations of Forbidden Planet and The Day the Earth Stood
Still? Why didn't Charlton do a comic book version of
the original Godzilla movie? And why, oh WHY, did no
one do a 3-D comic version of House of Wax?


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Oy, I lived in Colonial Heights, which I don't
think WAS a town in the 1960s for about a year in
1990!<br>Frankly, I hated it. You could only get a beer then at the
Hopewell bowling alley without ridin' into
Petersburg.<br><br>I used to buy comics at this kid's store in
Chester. Literally, a kid owned his own comic store that
his Dad bought him I guess. Bought Spiderman #1
there, in the useless Platinum ink! Whenever possible I
drove into Richmond, there was a nice shop there across
from a huge Midlothian (?) Mall. They had a great
bargain section. <br>I worked for the Peaches Music Chain
for 10 years. One my best employees in that Colonial
Heights store, read comics. small world.<br><br><br>I'm a
bit younger than you but you can settle an old wife's
tale that was circulating when I lived in CH... Rumor
had it, that Hopewell's most famous citizen's "stage"
name had 4 letters in it, and she was often referred
to as the Platinum (not useless this time) Princess.
Since this is a family site, that's as far as I'll go.
But is it true, or do you have no idea what I'm
talking about.


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True, but still I wouldn't want to paint it.


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My 70's experience with Charlton was rather
similar. I first hooked into the Charlton revival with
E-Man #6 and soon I was seeking out any and all of the
stuff by Cuti, Howard, Byrne, Larsen, Sattler, Boyette,
Staton, Sutton and of course Ditko I could scrounge up. I
chanced upon an old-style junk/antique store (replaced in
later years by the Flea Market) and among other
oddities this guy seemed to have a large bounty of
Charlton comics. Likely he had lots of other stuff, but at
the time I was very focused on Charlton. I was able
to pick up a lot of the sundry Ghost books and a few
other odds and ends like E-Man #5.<br><br>In the days
before comics stores of course, finding back issues was
a rare pleasure. I still well remember a particular
grocery store which for some reason never ever seemed to
clean out their spinner rack. You could go in there and
find two or three months of comics squeezed into the
little wire racks.<br><br>I think the casual way I call
in my orders now is of course more convenient, but
the thrill of discovery which came in tumbling onto
these old treasure troves of comics is
missing.<br><br><br>Dean


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Does "Dinosaurus" count? An adaptation of the
movie about a little kid on a tropical isle who sees
com e to life a brontosaurus, a tyrannosaurus, and a
Neanderthal man. Big monsters, movie, Dell comic....


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Well, Dell DID do adaptations of some monster
fantasy movies...Phantom Planet (just saw it
recently...hoo boy. Wretched...but fun), Atlantis, the Lost
Continent, Voyage to the Bottom of the sea (and also "Around
the World Under the Sea as I recall...), and a few
others as I recall ( or rather DON'T recall, meaning I
can't remember the titles right now, but there were
some because I had the thought just a few minutes ago
and lost it in the time it took to type).<br>A line
with your thought, it's surprising Charlton printed
those monster books as a series, and no one else did
the same. Think of all those Marvel
Monster-of-the-month comics (Fin Fang Foom! Dragoom! Gargantus!) that
coulda made good short runs! The thought of a monthly
Kirby monster book makes ME drool. (Maybe in some other
universe...)


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A lot of mjy earliest charltons were bought at a
corner mom-and-pop store which sold bagged coverless
comics, three for fifteen cents. I'd buy a bag for the
one monster/sf/ghost comic you could see and get a
couple westerns, humor or love comics as well; that's
good though, for though I was disappointed then, I'd
still read 'em all and got a good taste of those racing
and western books as well as what I
preferred.<br>Anyone else here a fan of "Hunk"?


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GWANGI! One of my first comics was the Dell
adaptation of the movie "Gwangi". I didn't know it then, but
I realize now this was the work of the workhorse
Jack Sparling. I never had a chance to see the movie
itself and the comic was the only way to get plugged
into that fantasy. I loved the blend of western and
fantasy.<br><br>There have been some decent attempts to get those old
Kirby monster stories back into print. The tradepaper
from several years back (with a Walt Simonson cover no
less) is a treasure trove of Marvel fantasy. I remember
too about the same time that Marvel tried a few
mini-series reprint runs of both the big monster stories and
earlier more EC-style material. <br><br>My dream project
would be for someone to bring out a regular reprinting
of the old Charlton ghost stories in over-size with
color. The ACG reprints seem too scattershot to be
effective, but this is pie-in-the-sky. A trade of the best
of Dr.Graves would be wonderful.<br><br>Dean


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...You're saying...and YOU threw this in th' stew
, cuzzin' , so...that the " HEE HAW " comic -
presumably 4 lack of likeness rights to Buck , Roy , etc. -
would show faceless figures CALLING each other " Roy ,
Buck " , etcetera ? That's what you're saying ? <br> I
never expected the comic to show the guest country
singers . The Hagar(?) Twins . Lulu Roman , the fat broad
( Ooooo , I'm so tuff ! ) ?


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...By/Way , my recollection of the " MUPPET BABIES " comic , is , that th' M's NURSE's bod was never shown...


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..." Face " , I mean - just as " SUGAR AND SPIKE " , at times , would pull that w/S&S's springoffers !!!!!!!!!


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I know that Warren comics ain't the beloved
Charlton. But such notable Charlton talent like Nick Cuti
and Tom Sutton take part in this wonderful debut
issue. What it is,is a reprint right down to the
wonderful advertising of Vampirella #1 from the late
60's(those ads, those wonderful ads!!!). This one is really
a keeper. The stories are written by the
aforementioned Cuti, with Fory Ackerman and Don Glut doing a
bunch too. The art is by such 60's greats as Sutton,
Billy Graham, Ernie Colon, Reed Crandall, and Neal
Adams. Also on hand is my favorite Charlton artist Tony
Tallarico (I know! I know!) Of course the cover is by Frank
Frazetta, you know the one!<br><br>I just stumbled over it,
so hopefully it's still available. I highly
recommend it.


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...This is the ( I'm told ) more " humerous "'
Vampi , of her first issues ? <br> Is it modern CB sixe
, not Warren size ? Current ? From Harris ? How's
the reproduction ? Inside/bac-covers included ???????


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It looks to me to be an exact duplicate of the
original. The only differences I can readily detect are the
Harris name and the price on the cover, and the indicia.
Frankly it is very hard to tell this one from any other
Warren magazine I have read over the years.
<br><br>Reproduction looks to be very good, as far as I can tell. The
techincal side of things seems to really be nailed down.
You are right that this is the funnier Vampi. The
first storline is quite different in tone, and speaks
clearly of the strips "Barbarella" inspirations. Tom
Sutton draws a very appealing Vampi to say the
least.<br><br>Dean


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I once had Vampi #1, so I had to get the reprint.
I bought the first 6 Vampirellas from Warren's back
issue department, which had to be one of the best in
the world as far as what you could get. My local
comic shop had a dozen or so copies, and was trying to
figure out were to put 'em (too big to go on the regular
comics rack). I'd forgotten the Wood tribute Sutton was
trying in the Vampirella origin story. I didn't remember
the Tallarico, Adams, or Colon stories at all. So why
did I remember the ones by Billy Graham and Reed
Crandall?<br>Actually, the "humorous" attitude of the early Vampirellas
is becasue she wasn't a "real" character: she was
the hostess. It may go back to radio, where the host
of this weeks mystery murder theater would introduce
the tale, then come back at the end and crack wise
about the villian getting his commupence (Hey, it's how
The Shadow got started). EC Comics did much the same
thing, with The Crypt Keeper, The Gravedigger, and The
Old Witch, and on TV Alfred Hitchcock made droll
observations each week about the characters in his stories.
Boris Karloff did the same thing on Thriller (no
relation ot the song by Michael Jackson, who is no
relation to me). When monster movies started appearing on
TV, it was often hosted by a creepy character who
made jokes and did schtick between commercials (when
conditions were just right, we could get Morgus the Great
from New Orleans). This proud tradition is carried on
by Elvira, Mistress of the Dark even today. Until
her regular adventures started, Vampirella was there
mainly to relieve tension or make observations about the
I.Q. of the main character in the story.<br>Also at
the comic shop was the second issue of ACG's Heroes
Ink., which has another Fightin' 5 story.


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Well here it is "All Hallow's Eve" so I think it
is time to share some Halloween humour I heard on
the radio this morning. Some people were walking
through the cemetary where Ludwig Van Beethoven is
interned. They heard some music actually coming from the
grave. They were shocked, but, being a fan of the
classics, they could tell it was Bethoven's Fifth symphony
playing BACKWARDS! After awhile, they heard Bethoven's
Fourth symphony music coming from beneath the grave,
ALSO PLAYED BACKWARDS! Astonished, they continued to
listen. After a little while, they heard Bethoven's
THIRD, SECOND, AND FIST symphony being played
consecutively, ALL OF THEM BEING PLAYED BACKWARDS! Coming upon a
non-plushed cemetary gardener who knew his music, and who was
no stranger to the eerie goings-on hereabouts, he
explained to the puzzled listeners that Bethoven was
simply...DECOMPOSING.


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Remind me to tell you the Killer Monkey joke sometimes. Wait, how old are you? You need to be at least 40 to really understand.


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Who would win? I think that Rip Jagger would be
the purest and best-trained fighter, but sadly Cap's
shield might give him an advantage. One thing in Rip's
favor though is that if anything Judomaster during the
war was likely a more experienced combatant, at least
in the early days.<br><br>What do you
think?<br><br>By the way, there is little doubt that Tiger could
pretty much mop up the floor with the (Still-dead) Bucky
Barnes.<br><br>Dean


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Yeah, but don't forget the Super-Soldier Formula.
Depending on the version of the origin, Cap's either a
little or a lot faster, stronger, and tougher than a
normal man. Judomaster is, nonetheless, simply a normal
man.<br>Ted White's origin in "The Great Gold Steal" was more
sensible than most. IN it, the building of muscle and bone
(and some metal implants) came first, then the formula
to give Cap an edge. He entered the war at a fairly
high level of competency. It's been so long, I don't
even remember any Judomaster stories. I wish someone
(besides ACG) would reprint some other Charlton
stuff.<br>Regarding Tiger and Bucky, who said Bucky would fight fair?
(I know, who said Tiger would, either. It would be
like Robin vs. Kato on the old Batman TV show.)


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Got some more ACG reprints 2-day , " Heroes , Ink
" #1 ( Copyrighted 2000 - does anyone have any<br>
Kubrick Year-copyrighted ones ????? ) , - repeints a "
how to " judo page - from JUDOMASTER ? Aint that
AOL/Time/Warner ( uh , DC ) now ? - and a , " limited " , "
Crimebuster " one , " EC annual-reprinting " about ,9 ,
issues - w/lotsa Charlton mystery backups !<br> Tried ,
my int. whetted by ALTER EGO piece , two ACG
Westerns - One looked at looks good - Did PAM do a western
chasecter 4 a non-C. company ?????????


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Judomaster would win in a fight with Captain
America hands down. Every time. At least if it was a
fashion contest. In my view, JM had one of the coolest
costumes ever created for comics. It's a shame DC replaced
it. Another fave is Marvel's Stingray. Now THAT is a
cool costume. Another favourite of mine is
Innovation's Sentry. Anyone else wanna give their views on
favourite costumes? Remember, coolest costume, not
necessarily favourite character. That is a different question


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I think the Charlton Heroes were among the best
looking in all of comics history. As has already been
mentioned Judomaster had a beautifully dynamic outfit. I
know that DC might have wanted to shy away from the
Rising Sun motif, but frankly like Captain America's
togs this one is a classic and should have been
retained. Blue Beetle as redesigned by Ditko remains
wonderfully elegant as is demonstrated just this month on the
cover the JLA:Incarnations. That costume just keeps on
working. I for one really liked the Peacemaker's outfit,
even the big plastic helment. The short-sleeves were
rather novel, and gave the character a realistic look.
Captain Atom's second outfit, the Red, White, and Blue
one is one of my all-time favorites. It just works,
and while the golden one is pretty good it is too
much like lots of other heroes. The all-silver look DC
gave him is too dull oddly enough despite all the
shiny silver. Thunderbolt's Daredevil inspired fighting
togs were great when drawn by PAM but I think the
addition of leggings at DC was a good idea. Only
Nightshade looks better at DC than in the original costume.
<br><br>Dean


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Hey, you forgot E-Man and Nova! Sure the colors
were pretty different, yellow and orange, but they
worked well. I like how Joe Staton worked the E=mc2
equation into a super hero emblem. And Nova, she was just
a babe in her
outfit.<br>R<br><a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


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I won't disagree with those sentiments. I don't
think E-Man's costume has the elegance of those earlier
Action Hero designs, but the equation/symbol is a very
nice touch. The colors for E-Man were selected (if I
remember correctly) because there were already way too
many blue and red colored heroes. Nova's costume on
the other hand is quintessential 70's. <br><br>Dean


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I got an old Judomaster comic yesterday. He
fought this guy called Mountain Storm. Pretty good, if a
little simplistic. Then again, it was an easy read, with
a little excitement and a little humor, and a
little puzzle, and what more could you ask of a story?


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I liked all the Capt. Atom costumes except the last two from Kingdome Come and from LAW.  With the exception of the gun attachment, Blue Beetle's costume is one of the all-time classics


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Love that Mountain Storm. Despite his being a
stereotype (who wasn't), he is a very entertaining
character. I assume you have the first battle with Mountain
Storm and not the two-parter that also features the
debut of Tiger.<br><br>Your analysis is spot on. Comics
are comics not treatises, and they shouldn't be too
complex. Admittedly I'm revealing my Silver Age bias, but
there it is. A pox on Chris Claremont, and long live
Joe Gill!<br><br>Dean


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I liked the first of the L.A.W. costumes, but the
latter one which originally came from the Kingdom Come
book was overwrought. I think Cap does best with
silver and highlights, lots of highlights.<br><br>Dean


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...I don' have references , now , but I think
that , actually , I tended to like the very first one
best...It interested me to , notice that , he got the
Kingdom Come outfit , after that book proved 2 B so
popular --- especially considering Cap's rather dubious
fate in that'n !!!!!!!!!!!<br> Oh , hey , the current
JLA - Incarnations mini is up to issue 6 - now , over
, the Giffen " Bwah hah hah !!!!!!! " years - and ,
yepper , BB is prominintly featured - KIND OF scmuckily
, I recall , in the untold story , so you may not
be , entirely , happy , about , this - while the
back up , too ( among other things ) , retells Cap's
origin to make his original military career happen
during Vietnam ! Ah , retconning , especially when ,
it's , in tune w/" real world " events .<br> Also ,
what I've read ( 1 " ROBIN " story , I believe . ) of
the Bat-universe reply , to the " Last Laugh " Joker
crossover - seems to be featuring BB rather promimently -
To me , he seems too " super "/bright ( And with a
power that , despite what that " Act Of God "
mini-series implied , is really too mysticism-touched -
though , that's maybe where DC sees the Bats connection
, as a good guys counterpart to Ra's A Ghul ! )
/superscientific a character to REALLY fit into the Batman
universe - But , anyway !!!!!!!<br>( By/Way , when Ra's A
Ghul was introduced , in the early 70s , wasn't he ,
really , more of a Chinese - Fu Manchu type - than he is
now , with his ethnicity now vaguely Persian or
Eastern European ? Given , BOTH , the general
now-unacceptability of Fu types and the Talia romance , did DC " move
him to the West " , a little bit ? I could , almost ,
swear , that he was , mor of a " sinister Oriental "
type then . )


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I am looking for information on several horror
comics that I believe were put out by Charlton between
'70 and '72, about the time that I was in 1st
grade.<br><br>The first deals with a man who finds out that his
wife and best friend are having an affair and plots
revenge. He takes his "friend" out fishing, the plan being
to kill him and dump the body in the swamp.
Surprisingly, a giant octopus or squid comes up and kills the
"friend". The angry man goes home, gets his wife and feeds
her to the tentacled monster. However, he suffers
from extreme guilt, and begins to see tentacles out to
get him everywhere. Eventually a shrink hypnotizes
the man to not see the tentacles anymore. The guy
goes home, turns on the faucet to get some water, and
a bunch of tentacles come out and kill
him.<br><br>Another is a book length story about some other guy whose
car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, and he has
to hike up to some spooky mansion where an old guy
invites him in, and then imprisons him. We later find out
that the old guy has a mermaid in the basement that he
feeds a cat too. Eventually the hitchhiker escapes,
kills the old guy, who crumbles into dust and blows
away, and is nearly killed himself by the mermaid,
except that the sun comes up and she dries up and dies.
This first came out in the early 70s, but was
reprinted again in the late 70s.<br><br>The only thing that
I remember about the last story is that sometime in
the future two people are dying and build androids
and transfer their essences into them.<br><br>I am
looking for information on the titles and issue numbers
to that I can add them to my collection. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.


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YES!! YES!! A thousand times YYEESSS!!!<br><br>I
have very fond memories of the Atlas/Seaboard comics.
I first discovered them while spending the summer
at my grandmothers. They were spectacular! My
personal favorites include Planet Of The Vampires, Brute,
Son of Dracula Wulf, and Iron Jaw.<br><br>Sometimes
the story lines and continuity left something to be
desired, but, ooyyy, those covers! They were a sight to
behold!! I am now busy trying to get as many of them as I
can, not so much for their monetary value, but just
because I have such fond memories.


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....WDO! have an Atlas/Seaboard club , which I'll have to check the , exact , URL of...I'm the same person who , as , either , SSSSSSSSSTAN... `


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...or , as JOEGOULDIII , invited you over here , at About.Com's Comics site ( Which is still operating , sans a host , as a , " ghost site " , of sorts . ) . I'm , also , waltsland_1999 , here !


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<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety</a>


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As has already been pointed out there is indeed a
club dedicated to Atlas-Seaboard comics. Soon after
the post you replied to I did indeed set up such a
club. Things have been slow, but there is lots of
detail info in the first several posts and some
discussion since. All are welcome. The address one more time
is:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety</a><br><br>All are welcome!<br><br>Dean


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The other day arrived in the mail from one of my
dealers a NM SPACE ADVENTURES#33 to replace a
lesser-condition copy I had had. The only reason I mention it that
I had forgot the following: while Captain Atom's
(first appearance) picture on the cover is the familiar
yellow and reddish/orange, inside his premier appearance
story, (unlike later ,re-coloured reprints)... his
costume is actually powder-blue coloured, his belt is
charcoal and white, and his mask and boots are also
charcoal (dark gray), with white thin vertical stripes
down the boots in front. It's the same costume as on
the cover, except for the colours. His hair is not
blond, but rather orangey/red-like Matt Murdock's
(Daredevil)&gt; Actually, I found this version (colours) of the
costume much more attractive than how it was coloured on
the cover---yellow and read. Interesting,
yes?<br><br>Phil


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I agree Phil. The blue costume is unusual and is
rather pretty. I think in the final analysis the gold
was the right choice, but it is certainly a surprise.
I wonder if it was intentional or a mistake along
the way. I vote for mistake.<br><br>Dean


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Has anyone else heard about Marvel's plans to
phase out costumes on at least some of their
characters? I understand that even DC is thinking along these
lines. Supposedly they are calling this an evolution of
some sort.<br>I think it is just another sign that the
companies really don't have a good grasp of what makes an
entertaining comic anymore. So they resort to gimmicks and try
to change things that shouldn't be changed just
because they think the old style is not cool. This is not
to say that comics are now a vast wasteland. There
are good comics and good creators out there. But I've
read so many comics that make me wonder if some of the
writers know how to tell a story that is meaningful and
yet fun at the same time. Say what you will about
Stan Lee and Joe Gill and others from the silver age,
but at least they knew how to entertain with their
tales. <br>And I don't totally object to heroes without
costumes, but I think it's a mistake to strip them from
well established characters. After all so many of
these uniforms symbolize something. They're not just a
fancy dress outfit for the hero to wear. Can you
imagine Captain America without his red white and blue?
Or Batman without his cape and cowl? And will movie
studios want to make a film as quickly about a super-hero
without a costume? Not to mention the toy companies...can
they market a super-hero action figure wearing a
suit?<br>Sorry I've been so long winded about this, but it
really gets to me that the companies are screwing up
again. And, of course, I'm interested in what the other
members have on their minds about the subject.<br>But it
might not all be lost. Maybe one of the heroes could
take a job as a Good Humor man and still get to wear a
uniform of some sort.


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This seems highly unlikely to me. The strength of
a specific recognizable image too powerful a
marketing tool for the powers-that-be to just toss it
aside. What I imagine is being discussed are these new
Ultimate titles where the costumes for the X-Men were
fairly minimal but still recognizable. <br><br>I can't
see Marvel (a company recovering by all accounts but
still very vulnerable) casting off the recognition
factor of such stalwarts as Spidey, the FF, Cap, Thor ,
etc. As for DC, they have played this game a few
times, but I have little fear that Superman will be
saving Metropolis in his civies anytime soon. Likewise
the Batman ain't gonna give up the whole modus
operandi his costume supplies. <br><br>We may get a few
minor heroes or teams who will give up the cloth, but I
don't see this as a trend. Comics are four-color for a
reason.<br><br>Dean


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I'm looking for these. They ring a bell with me,
but I couldn't put them in a particular comic or
issue number for you. The mermaid story sounds like one
by Sanho Kim but I would have to check it out to
make sure.<br><br>Dean


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The word on the net is that Gray Morrow has
passed away. Charlton fans will have good reason to
remember Morrow's work. I myself well remember and
treasure still his wonderul work on the Space:1999
magazine. While Cuti, Staton, and Byrne were doing the
color comic, Charlton farmed out the magazine to a
studio either run by Morrow or for which he worked.
Nevertheless the work, in particular the covers were
tremendous.<br><br>Morrow has done work for all the comics companies both
large and small. His name was a guarantee of quality,
and his beautiful women (both dressed and undressed)
were visions I will long remember.<br><br>Gray Morrow
is already missed.<br><br>Dean


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Hey, does anyone know whether or not Gray Morrow used to work in Ohio for a newspaper called the Columbus Dispatch?<br><br>Rome


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Just who was Miss Muscles? Anybody? Mr. M's wife, sister, girlfriend?


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libbylawrence wrote;<br><br>&gt;&gt;Just who was
Miss Muscles? Anybody? Mr. M's wife, sister,
girlfriend?&lt;&lt;<br><br>- Well, since 'she' only appeared in that one story
in the series, I think she was pretty obviously Kid
Muscles in a frock; Mr. M. appears to have been squeamish
about publicly taking his 'young ward' out as his
escort in a nightclub (unlike Bruce Wayne, et. al.),
without at least attempting to conform to the
proprieties...<br><br>- Howard.


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I mentioned getting an ACG comic consisting of 9?
issues of their " DICK TRACY - CRIMEBUSTER " comic bound
together . I'll discuss the D. T. content , over at No
Superheroes Allowed , though , possibly , not 2-day . but ,
anyway , it's got MUCHO Charlton mystery/etc. reprints !
About ten different stories , I'd say !


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This past week I got an ACG comic about
Charlton's favorite five-man paramiliatry organization. It
looks like the whole story is there (too much to do
this week, only read Liberty Meadows 'cause it was
quick). This makes three Fightin' 5 stories so
far.<br><br>Bill


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Hello, I am KM and I just joined this club. I was
looking around in the photo section and I came across the
photo album for "The L.A.W. mini-series." I don't know
anything about this mini-series, so I have a few
questions.<br><br>Who is the artist that drew the images in the photo
album? The artwork is fantastic! They are the
covers?<br><br>When did this mini-series come out? What is the story
about?<br><br>I think that Captain Atom's new look is much better
than the one he had previously. However, the blue,
red, and silver look that he had from the late 60s to
the mid 80s is still the best.<br><br>Is that Tiger
as the new Judomaster in picture 5?<br><br>Is that
Nightshade in picture 4?


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KM574: Welcome to the club! To answer your
questions about THE L.A.W., this was a DC 6 issue mini
series which was published last year or the year
previous. If memory serves, Dick Giordano did the art
chores. All six covers of the mini series, when put side
by side, formed one LARGE illustration. The series
was an updated version of Charlton's Action Heroes,
Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, Judomaster, etc.
The character in the white judo costume is NOT TIGER,
but rather, JUDOMASTER himself, in an updated version
of Tiger's old costume. (Frankly, I liked JM's
original fighting togs MUCH BETTER. But I digress.) In the
mini series, TIGER has gone bad (evil, become a bad
guy, and our heroes are against him. If you are a
Charlton Action Heroes fan, I highly recommend that you
acquire this series. There is a new Peacemaker (new
character, new costume.) Under the helmet it is NOT
Christopher Smith. Apparently Smith is dead, though how that
happened has never been chronicled.I'm not happy about
that either, but overall the series is very good. Hope
that answers some of your questions. And yes, that is
Nightshade.<br>Phil


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...I got " HEROES , INK " #1 , copyrighted 2000 (
What date is your #2 ??????? ) , with what I guess is
my maiden Fightin' 5 ( definite on Mr. Muscles !
Liked the Atomic Rabbit , etc. , quickies myself ,
which I'll say since many others may disagree ) - I
thot. th' " 5 " were , exclusively , a WWII-set org. ,
but , the story there's comtepo. ( 60s ) set . What
was the division ? Obviously , just like
Nick/S.H.I.E.L.D....WWII was a bit more recnt then !!!


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...I think that , this may be , in part , a garbled version of something that one of DC's writers said . I'll try 2 get back to U on this !!!!!!!


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<a href=http://www.fanzing.com target=new>http://www.fanzing.com</a>


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...That'll take U 2 Fanzing , where I post ( See
if you can guess what name it is !!!!!!! )...And
where I got linked 2 the interview in the London Times
with Grant Morrison, which I think may be , at least
in part , the source of your story , in a garbled
way . ( NOTE: I don't mean that the information was
garbled by you . Remember the old kid's game of "
Telephone " ? That would be my metaphor , here !!!!! )<br>
Find your way , to their " Fanzing Forum " , then ,
once there , to the " General Forum " , which should
be easy enough , then , look for the " No More
Superheroes ? " entry , which should be up at or near the top
by now , which will link you 2 th' LT piece...as
well as having some commentary , most of it pretty
negative , from their regulars . <br> I figured that that
would be easier than trying 2 build a new link 2 th' LT
story itself , even before I noted this odd - I guess -
EZ Board tendency , to " squeeze " links , so you
can't , easily , copy 'em , even though they , as links
, work !!!!!!! Anyway , It'll get you 2 , this
Morrison interview , I just tried it . See ya !


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I always figured Fightin' 5 was a contemporary
elite force like Delta Force for special missions. I
don't remember seeing WWII stories, though I didn't get
'em all.<br>I got Heroes Ink just about 60 days ago
so I think it was supposed to be copyrighted 2001. I
got #2 just two weeks ago. In both case, I'm sure the
store just got them in because in my area, any one
store orders only one or two copies of each. (No one
else seems to buy the things).


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The Fightin' 5 are exclusively cold warriors to
my uncertain knowledge. I would imagine the oldest
of the team to be at most a Korean War vet. The 5
like Sarge Steel are products of the spy surge of the
60's.<br><br>Dean


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The life of a freelancer is very hectic (if you
want to make a living, anyway), and I've scarcely had
time to work on the club picture we all voted on
sometime ago. I still plan on doing it, but when, I can't
say. <br> That said, I decided last night to do a
"quickie" version for the club. It's not finished yet, but
I hope to ink it tonight! Here's a scan of the
pencils thus
far:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton1.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton1.jpg</a><br>The pencils are kinda loose, and were really, really
light, so this scan isn't the best. It took some
photoshop work to even make many of the lines show up.
Also, I only did 4 Charlton characters, as this is a
"quickie" version. To make things interesting, I applied a
little of the Bruce Timm style to the illo, as I've not
seen these characters depicted this way. I hope you
like this illo, and as soon as it gets inked, you'll
see it here first. I hope to provide a color version
for the club.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:48:22 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:48:22 -0800
Subject: Re: Charlton art!
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One other thing, can someone help me out with a
good scan of the Night Shade costume? I've not been
able to find good reference. I think her belt in the
60's was different than Ordway draws it. I'd like to
draw the 60's belt, so any info is
appreciated.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:24:28 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
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The rumours are running rampant that the days of
Yahoo clubs are numbered. I thought that if perchance
that does prove to be the case we would showcase your
club picture right away. It would be a shame indeed if
we didn't get that accomplished at least.
<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:50:45 -0800
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From: chasmithalpha
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Dean--this is the first I heard of this. You mean Yahoo will dump all the clubs? Hmmm...interesting. You have any guess why?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:19:01 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:19:01 -0800
Subject: Yahoo Changes & End of Days?!
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It seems that Yahoo is converting from the
current club format to E-Groups. They merged a year ago
and it's been discussed on and off since that clubs
might go away. Currently new clubs can't be created,
and the general assumption is that that indicates the
ultimate elimination of Clubs in favor of Groups is
imminent.<br><br>There already is a Yahoo Group dedicated to Charlton
Comics (which I belong to) and so I see little need for
two. It has a tremendous membership filled with
professionals who were there when Charlton was doing its thing.
Among the names who have posted there are Don Glut,
Steve Skeates, and Nick Cuti. I highly recommend it for
any Charlton fan. It is linked up in our Links
section, but I will create a post with a more immediate
link for everyone's convenience.<br><br>It is possible
this is all rumour but I frankly doubt it, and I
wouldn't want the folks here left high and dry. I know
finding anyone to talk Charlton with is a rare pleasure
and I wouldn't want to lose touch with a single soul
here.<br><br>It is possible this place will convert to an E-Group
but I just don't know. Doc (the original Founder) may
have plans for the Bullseye I know not of.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:38:59 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:38:59 -0800
Subject: Link To Charlton Group!
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Here is a handy link to the existing Charlton Yahoo Group:<br><br><a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l target=new>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l</a><br><br>Tell them I sent you!<br>(You won't save a darn nickel.)<br><br>Dean


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From: lostonwallace
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Dean,<br><br>I told 'em you sent me.   Wish I had a darn nickel.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:15:19 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: mrnatfred
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Lycos has clubs similar to the Yahoo Clubs. Go to
http:/lycos.com<br>click on the clubs link and type comics in the search
box. Not a lot of great clubs but maybe the refugees
from Yahoo can change that.


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that's <a href=http://lycos.com/ target=new>http://lycos.com/</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:53:23 -0800
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From: lostonwallace
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Finally got around to scanning this:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:56:11 -0800
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Great job!!!!!!!!!<br>Rome


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:03:05 -0800
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Thanks, Rome.  I hope to do some more Charlton artwork soon.  Maybe the "horror hosts" next time:)<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:51:31 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: IndustrialStudios
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:51:31 -0800
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I hope Loston doesn't mind, but I grabbed his pic
and gave it a quick basic coloring. It's in my
industrial strength stuff folder in the photos
section.<br><br>Ray (going back to lurking)
Villarosa<br>industrialstudios


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:55:38 -0800
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From: kirkm5computer
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do you draw comics for a living? That is real good. I wish I could do that. You can see some of my work at <br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kirkm5computercartoonsandart target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kirkm5computercartoonsandart</a>


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:01:55 -0800
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:01:55 -0800
Subject: Steve Ditko's Question ..question
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Why is Steve Ditko's creation the Question
constantly under rated? I remember DC's revival of the
character without him and I was real dissapointed that he
was never asked to return. Why couldn't Steve ever
come back to those titles? Was it that they treated
him so badly?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:14:05 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:14:05 -0800
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I don't think Ditko's Question work is
underrated. From what I read his work on the Question is
considered some of his best ever for Charlton. I think they
couldn't get him for the Question because either he didn't
want to (likely) or they didn't want to fool with his
notorious individualistic approaches to comic art (also
likely). The Question is in many ways the perfect Ditko
hero. He is wearing street clothes and no one drew the
common man on the street more effectively than Ditko,
not even Eisner. I've never seen anyone get those
hats to sit better on the head than Ditko. Further his
whole approach to crimefighting combines successfully
Ditko's political beliefs with good solid comics
storytelling. Sadly later attempts with Mr.A saw the politics
overwhelm the storylines.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:15:10 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Beautiful Loston. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you do with Doc Graves, Impy, and the gang.<br><br>Thanks for coming through for the club.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:18:23 -0800
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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:18:23 -0800
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Very nicely done Ray. The colors are very
effective, I think. I only wish I could figure out how to
move that file to club pic section. <br>My caveman
computer skills have let me down again.<br><br>Dean


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From: lostonwallace
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Better late than never, eh?  Happy Thanksgiving, clubbers!<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:51:38 -0800
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kirkm5computer,<br><br>I do indeed draw
professionally, and I am embarking on the beginnings of a comic
book career. In '98, I worked on several freelance,
license projects for DC Comics. Mainly, Batman & Superman
animated coloring books, etc.. I just completed a
CAVEWOMAN comic called KLYDE & MERIEM a little while back.
Comics Continuum ran this blurb for
it:<br><a href=http://comicscontinuum.com:8080/stories/0107/05/ target=new>http://comicscontinuum.com:8080/stories/0107/05/</a><br> Unfortunately, the printrun was rather low, so
the only place to get a copy at this point would be
@:
<a href=http://www.amryl.com/cavewoman/klydeandmeriem/klydeandmeriem.htm target=new>http://www.amryl.com/cavewoman/klydeandmeriem/klydeandmeriem.htm</a><br> I have since, worked on an issue of Elvira,
Mistress of the Dark, and am currently busy on two
independent comic book projects. <br> Recently, I sent a
dozen submission packets to Marvel and DC, but I
haven't heard so much as a peep back from them. <br> At
the moment, I am pondering working up a Justice
League sample packet inwhich to send to DC.<br> Six
years of my career was spent illustration roleplaying
games. I worked on everything from Star Wars to Indiana
Jones, to Deadlands, to Battletech.<br> Thanks for your
kind words, man. I truly appreciate 'em, cause I've
been feeling low lately. Not hearing back from Marvel
and DC has bummed me out.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:02:44 -0800
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Loston doesn't mind at all! A very nice job, Ray!
I'm actually coloring the Charlton illo. in photoshop
sometime this week. If you don't mind, I think I'll use
your version as a colorguide--with a few minor costume
corrections. Captain Atom's mask, gloves, and boots were a
little more orangish, while his chest emblem (for some
unknown reason) was Superman red. The only other minor
thing I can see is that the Blue Beetle's trapeze
mechanism was typically colored red. I think if you go back
and make it red, that the Beetle would separate from
the Question a lot more, adding some great depth of
field.<br> I can't tell you how impressed I am with your
coloring though, little things aside. I particularly like
Beetle's visor, Atom's atomic jet trail, and Night Shade!
Very professional. I'm placing your color version on
my desktop, proudly.<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:26:21 -0800
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From: IndustrialStudios
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:26:21 -0800
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Thanks, glad you liked it. Sorry about the colors
being off, but I was going by memory, plus as I said I
only did a quickie knowing it might be (hopefully)
used small (i.e. a club pic)<br><br>Thanks again, look
forward to seeing more from you.<br><br>Happy Turkey Day
everyone!<br>Ray
Villarosa<br>industrialstudios<br><br><br>&lt;&lt;Loston doesn't mind at all! A very nice job, Ray! I'm
actually coloring the Charlton illo. in photoshop sometime
this week. If you don't mind, I think I'll use your
version as a colorguide--with a few minor costume
corrections. Captain Atom's mask, gloves, and boots were a
little more orangish, while his chest emblem (for some
unknown reason) was Superman red. The only other minor
thing I can see is that the Blue Beetle's trapeze
mechanism was typically colored red. I think if you go back
and make it red, that the Beetle would separate from
the Question a lot more, adding some great depth of
field.<br>I can't tell you how impressed I am with your
coloring though, little things aside. I particularly like
Beetle's visor, Atom's atomic jet trail, and Night Shade!
Very professional. I'm placing your color version on
my desktop, proudly.&gt;&gt;


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I had an opportunity to work some on a color
version of my Charlton piece. I used Ray's version as a
color guide of sorts, and here are the
results:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charltons.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charltons.jpg</a><br><br>Hope you like the new, COMPLETE, Charlton club pic!
Happy Turkey!<br><br>Loston


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I love it. Thanks for coming through Loston. It is indeed a beautiful job.<br><br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>It truly was a pleasure.  I'm hoping to do a few more.<br><br>Loston


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Subject: Re: Steve Ditko's Question ..question
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...I've read that Ditko has a " don't look back "
approach regarding characters , not owned by him , once he
leaves them , of NEVER going back to them , even
briefly...Thus , in recent times , when he's gotten some work
from Marvel ( Even if it's somewhat " here's something
for the old time fans/nostalgia " level , ) he won't
do Doc Strange or Spidey . Even a one-shot story .
At all .<br> The DC reprint of MYS. SUSPENSE/the
Question one-shot , incidentally , backed up the CBA C.
issue's recollection of how his stories - and the
expression of his beliefs - were dealt with , on a
commercial/" big time " level , by crediting one - Rocke
Mastreino ? - I don' have my copy handdee ! - for dialoging
the story contained inside it , i.e. , " Making the
story sound somewhat more like human beings were
speaking it . " !!!!!!!!!<br> In other words , an
additiomal collaborator made it a bit more " conventional
"/" flow " in a more standard funnybook stylee ,
boyee !!!!!!!!!


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...This is wl/wlslnd . Could you contact me please , privately , at either Y! address , under either name ? I have , something , to say...( " Comma Crazy "...) ( Ellipses , Too ! )


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I can't find an address to contact you with. Your e-mail is listed as personal.<br><br>Sorry.<br><br>Dean


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Waltsland and others who are interested in
knowing who now holds the copyrights to the 1975 Atlas
comics characters: I have found the letter which Larry
Lieber wrote me all those years ago, in reference to me
writing him about 15 years ago to ask him who did own
them: SWANK magazine, which is a men's magazine (porno)
owns the copyright , not PENTHOUSE NOR HUSTLER. Hope
this clarifies.<br>Phil


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...You're right about that . I guess I din'
realize when I set those up that you have 2 , consiously
, SAY " I want my E-Dress 2 B known "...
Either:<br>waltsland_1999@yahoo.com<br>or<br>wlllljoyyyyy@yahoo.com ???????


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...In 15 years , things might've changed , of
course , but...Who owns SWANK ( hey , take the first
letter off , and have some fun ! ) , anyway ? One of
those many " sub-PLAYBOYS " - which , I guess , are far
more hardcore in what they show - and in the
percentage of pages of the mag. that devote to sex pic vs.
everything else - I guess . How long's it been around ? <br>
Hey , does amybody else know that , for a while
anyway , CRACKED was owned by Globe? Communications ,
which owned the second division of supermarket tabs -
the SUN , the GLOBE ( once known as MIDNIGHT , and ,
I could tell you a story relating to it ! ) the
EXAMINER , I think ?????<br> I think that's no longer th'
case...the company that owns the ENQUIRER/STAR/WEEKLY WORLD
NEWS bought all? three others up - the recent
publicity over their anthrax ( I guess Ascroft'll B reading
our postings now ! ) bad things brought that up , I
think . As for CRACKED's ownership... <br> I've meant ,
for a long time , 2 write Mr. Leiber , c/o the S. F.
CHRONICLE ( now , owned by Hearst , as well as carrying th'
Spidey strip ! )<br>, espec. , 'member , since I have A
Certain Club...( Hey , you forced me into plugging it !
Leggo ! Oh !!!!!!! )
:<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thespidersyndicates target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thespidersyndicates</a>


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Waltsland: when I got your reply to my post about
who really owns ATLAS, or at least, who owned those
characters 15 years ago (SWANK MAGAZINE)...as soon as I saw
your reply, "Hey! Drop the 's' and have some
fun..."...I burst out laughing! Yesterday, I bought as a back
issue COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE#77, which not only has an
article on what the REAL REASON for the DEMISE of Atlas
Comics was, but also reproduced EVERY SINGLE
ATLAS/SEABOARD COVER...IN GLORIOUS COLOUR, TO BOOT! That by
itself was, for me, worth the price of the magazine. All
in all, they published 72 different publications.
This includes all colour comics, b & w magazines, and
even titles like MOVIE MONSTERS, DEVILINA, THRILLING
ADVENTURE STORIES, etc. On a text page of one of those old
Atlas/Seaboard titles, there was an announcement of some
"upcoming" titles, which I assume were never, ever
published. These include THE CHAMELION, TALES OF THE
SORCERESS, and one more, the title of which escapes me right
at the moment. Anyone remember the name of that one?
I have got it at home, but am at work right now,
so....<br>Phil


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Waltsland: when I got your reply to my post about
who really owns ATLAS, or at least, who owned those
characters 15 years ago (SWANK MAGAZINE)...as soon as I saw
your reply, "Hey! Drop the 's' and have some
fun..."...I burst out laughing! Yesterday, I bought as a back
issue COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE#77, which not only has an
article on what the REAL REASON for the DEMISE of Atlas
Comics was, but also reproduced EVERY SINGLE
ATLAS/SEABOARD COVER...IN GLORIOUS COLOUR, TO BOOT! That by
itself was, for me, worth the price of the magazine. All
in all, they published 72 different publications.
This includes all colour comics, b & w magazines, and
even titles like MOVIE MONSTERS, DEVILINA, THRILLING
ADVENTURE STORIES, etc. On a text page of one of those old
Atlas/Seaboard titles, there was an announcement of some
"upcoming" titles, which I assume were never, ever
published. These include THE CHAMELION, TALES OF THE
SORCERESS, and one more, the title of which escapes me right
at the moment. Anyone remember the name of that one?
I have got it at home, but am at work right now,
so....Of the 72 issues published, I have 47 of them. Still
trying to complete every ATLAS/SEABOARD TITLE in my
personal collection. Someday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>Phil


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...I've tended 2 think , that , " TALES OF THE
SORCERESS " was , simply , a Version 1.0 title for what was
to reach the newsstands as " DEVILINA " , but , I've
been disagreed with here regarding that ?<br> Is that
color comic in the MAD genre that I've mentoned
remembering seeing a THE COMIC READER cover repro for ,
pictured ? " GOTHIC ROMANCES " ? What's CBM's Web site , I
, really , HAVE TO get that...THE COMICS JOURNAL
had , sometime in the Eighties? , a horses --- mouth
( Hey , this isn't that legendary Linda Lovelace
8MM flick , ya know ! ) reminiscence of A/S , by
someone , I got it as a back issue about the time - 1991
? MacFarlane's Spidey was the order of the day


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Mr Waltsland: You may be right about Tales of the
Sorceress simply being the orig. working title of what
later became Devilina. Good theory. And yes, the one I
couldn't think of yesterday was Gothic Romances. However,
this was not a comic book at all, colour (Canucks and
Brits put a letter 'u' in everything)..nor B & W.
Gothic Romances was a magazine by Atlas/Seaboard,
fiction in prose form, kinda like DC's Forbidden Tales of
Dark Mansion, but in words, not pictures. It was a
one-shot. What I wanna know is--- what was the
non-published Chameleon gonna be about? Based on the title, one
could certainly speculate, but...<br>Phil


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As for that colour comic in the "Mad genre" you mentioned from Atlas...That can only be Vicki, which actually was a (Archie) Betty & Veronica ripoff. It ran 4 issues.<br>Phil


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Dunno about that Devilina/Sorceress thing. Somewhere I've seen an issue of "Tales of the Sorceress". Gray Morrow cover, I believe. Of course, maybe it was in an article on upcomming titles but...


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If anyone is interested, I've decided to put my
recent artwork on <br>ebay. You can check out the
auction
here:<br><br><a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=103899 target=new>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=103899</a><br>9077<br><br>I'd love for a club member to win this auction. That
way, I'd know that this piece would go to a true
fan.<br><br>I'm such a Charlton fan, that I want to make a whole
set of these <br>artworks to follow. Bids are most
appreciated.<br><br>Loston


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Oops!  wrong link.  Try this one:<br><a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1038999077 target=new>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1038999077</a><br><br>Loston


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Daglob---I just spoke to my International comics
dealer for back issues. He is a senior adviser to the
Comic Book Price Guide, one of only 10. Here is what he
had to say about TALES OF THE SORCERESS: "Tales of
the Sorceress definately was not released. What
happened was, the artists and writers of it were
commissioned to write and draw it, which they did. The company
went out of business..." (For more about the reasons
for that, consult COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE#77)..."and
that killed the project. The creators neither got paid
NOR got their scripts or art back!"<br><br>Thus,
there you have it!<br>Phil


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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:56:24 -0800
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..." VICKI " - Which I had issues of - was ,
definitely not , the comic I'm talking about . <br>" VICKI "
was reprints of Tower Comics' 1960s' title " Tippy
Teen " , with " Tippy " re-lettered into " Vicki "
.<br> I'll talk about the " Mad "-style - which had a
cover repro printed in The Comic Reader at the time ,
when it was scheduled 2B published - one , yepper ,
later !!!!!!!!!


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Subject: Re: Son...
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...To repeat this more straightforwardly , please
E me at waltsland_1999@yahoo.com , give me an
address to E you at !( wlllljoyyyyy's mailbox is , too ,
crowded ! )<br> With the EODays now creeping up upon us ,
like more than a thief in the night , it's purty
imperative-like , now , toravich .


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I'm not ignoring you Waltsland, but my e-mail address at work (the one I use for these things) is out of comission right now and I don't really keep another one active. <br><br>Sorry!<br><br>Dean


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Dean---I am hoping that, once the charlton bullseye site, and also the atlas site moves, that members will be emailed at that time with a link to the new site(s)...)<br>Phil


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The theory (according to a message from Yahoo
Central) is that we will all transition together over to
the Groups. No one will be lost. I'm a bit skeptical,
but I don't really know of a ready option. At one
time I debated recreating all my clubs over there, but
that creates other problems.<br><br>At this point I'm
just going to batten down my hatches and wait for the
change. It is possible I will attempt to preserve some of
my more precious links at another club at Lycos. If
that occurs I'll let everyone know. That will likely
be only a stopgap measure if it does indeed
occur.<br><br>Here's hoping!<br><br>Dean


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There's probably nothing to worry about; it'll be like the switch from Charlton to DC.<br><br><br>AAARRGH!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 30 Nov 2001 02:55:48 -0800
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Now I'm really scared! Thanks for the comforting
thought Daglob. <br><br>We could all end up like Captain
Atom and not even be able to recognize ourselves. Our
lives as we know them will be revealed to be one long
lie concocted by the military and we will be used to
attack our own friends. <br><br>Or not.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:20:27 -0800
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Or we could end up deprived of our bodies,and
merely a shadow of our former selves...<br>Or die and
have swomeone else take over our name...<br>Or NOT
die, and find out that what we thought was our legacy
alone is shared by someone else...<br>Or die and never
be seen again..<br>Or discover that our protoge has
become an immense evil while we were stuck in Nanda
Parbat, and as pennance we have to wear this really ugly
costume when we fight him...<br>Or get beat up, shot in
the head, and thrown in the river...<br>Or lose any
business acumen we had, gain weight, and become comedy
relief...<br><br>Lessee, Cap, Nightshade, Peacemaker, Thunderbolt, Son Of
Vulcan, Judomaster, Question, Blue Beetle... Did we miss
anybody? <br>Oh yeah, Sarge Steel. It's hard to tell what
they've done to him.


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When your're right, your're right. Sad but true. Makes me glad they didn't get the rights to the Fightin' 5. <br><br>Dean


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I checked this site first. This Atlas discussion
on the Chrarlton site, doesn't bode well for the NEW
HOUSE OF IDEAS Yahoo club.<br>Actually,Vicki (1 of the
more difficult finds of for 70s collectors)was a
reworked version of Tower's Tippy Teen (Tower's
longest-running title)<br>You are correct Tippy Teen was an
Archie Rip-off much like Binky's Buddies, Scooter and
the updated 70s Millie the Model. The "reworking"
actually entailed new covers to update the fashion a few
years from 1966-1975. I might be wrong but some of the
lingo was supposed to be updated but ultimately wasn't.


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Does anyone in the club have in their collection the Atlas/Seaboard title GOTHIC ROMANCES? I saw a copy of its colour cover in COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE#77 and would like to learn more about it.


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It's very rare Chrome. I have all the Atlas
Seaboard books except for that one and a few Vicki's. I've
never actually seen a copy, and like you the first time
I learned much about it was in the CBM issue
dedicated to Atlas Seaboard.<br><br>For more talk along
these lines one and all should check out The Atlas
Seaboard Comics Society. The address
is:<br><br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlasseaboardcomicssociety</a><br><br>See Ya!<br><br>Dean


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Way back in the heyday Scooby Doo was one of the
many Hanna Barbara projects Charlton worked on. And
ironically has proven to be the most successful project DC
ever inherited from The Big C. Of course the migration
of the character has been a long and complicated
one. By my rough count Charlton, Gold Key, Marvel,
Archie, and DC have all produced Scooby material at one
time or another over the years. Clearly DC's current
book is the best, though Archie's was quite
good.<br><br>The comic currently features the great art of Joe
Staton, and that alone is enough for me to check out an
issue now and again.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 02 Dec 2001 14:50:08 -0800
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From: romeandshelly
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Have you guys seen Joe Staton's latest?  He is working with Steve Englehart in creating a new webcomic serial called Rustle's Christmas Adventure.  Check it out at www.steveenglehart.com<br><br>Rome


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Shhh! Don't tell my 24 year old daughter there's
a Scooby comic now appearing! She'd want issues to
go with the Scooby shower curtains and coffee mugs.
Just a tangent here: We went to see Harry Potter and
there was a pretty funny preview of a Scooby computer
animated movie opening in May---for those of you who are
fans. (Personally, I'd like to see Scooby served up in
a Chinese restaurant, but then, I'm sort of a
grump).


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...It's nice to know that somebody else remembers
that , in th' 60s/70s , " gothic " was a term for this
genre of " vurginal-looking holding a candle on th'
cover " pb originals...DC's SINISTER HOUSE OF SECRET
DISTRIBUTOR RETURNS , or whatever 'twas titled , was another
, more direct , CBs world attempt at this
genre/ripping this off..


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A decade (or two!) ago I read some of the Dark
Shadows novels. They were sort of fun. Never read any
other gothic romances though, but I find it fascinating
that the genre grew and flourished in the 1965-80
period. I never understood why they didn't do more of
that stuff in the comics, though; there were just a
handful of gothic romance comics in all (including Dark
Shadows itself). But it seemed to me like a likely genre
for comics--romance for the girls, and a hint of
horror/the occult for the fanboy types.<br> I suspect that
the comics writers just couldn't do the job. If
comics were a ghetto---the romance novel world was the
sewer of a ghetto. It would be hard to write such
stories.


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My last line was confusing, I know. I just meant
that it would be hard to write gothic romance comics
because as low as comics writing is considered to be,
even comics writers think gothic romance stories are
hack work. I don't think most "self respecting" comics
writers could take writing a gothic romance series
seriously enough to do a decent job...they'd all feel they
were lowering their standards. (Right! A guy who
writes Wolverine stories for Marvbel is too good to
write a gothic romance comic. Uh-huh. Sure.)


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Um, the preview you saw is for the live action Scooby Doo movie.  Real actors playing all the parts.  The only CGI is Scooby himself (and maybe the monsters).<br><br>Martin


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Most guys would die rather than read a "real"
romance, gothic or not. Dark Shadows was weird in that
males would watch it and not feel like they had to
defend themselves (Hey! It's got vampires in it!).
Vampires, werewolves, animates, portraits in the attic,
zombies, ghosts, witches and warlocks of all descriptions
(Humbert Allen Astredo was EEE-vil!), alternate
dimensions, Lovecraftian Horrors... that's a lot for a soap
opera to tackle.<br>Now to get even further off topic,
did you know that the author of those Dark Shadows
books was a man?


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...I assume U mean Fritz Leiber ? ( NOTE: This is a , CUT-DOWN , version of a longer , unfinished , Reply , that th' #!@%&$ computer et !!!!!!!!! )


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I know what you mean about guys not reading
romance comics. The closet I had ever gotten before was
Millie the Model, but hey...that was a Marvel comic.
LOL.<br>But when I was trying to come up with story ideas to
sell to Charlton I wanted to do a horror script
involving racing cars since I'd read Charlton's car books
when I was a kid. But I just could not come up with
anything that I was happy with. For some reason though an
idea for a romance story with a race car driver popped
into my mind. And after a few days of resisting the
idea of writing a romance I decided to plunge ahead
and do it anyway. But what was a romance comic like?
Suddenly I had to go out and buy half a dozen romance
comics to get the feel for what they were like and what
the editor was buying and publishing. Like all of
Charlton's output the quality of the stories and art varied,
but it wasn't quite the excruciating experience I
thought it would be. Some of the stories I enjoyed, but
after that I don't think I read another romance comic.
<br>And I understand what you're saying about Dark
Shadows. I watched it all the time and never once thought
it was odd to watch a soap because of the
supernatural elements. Actually I thought it was kinda cool.
<br>Maybe someday someone will start a regular romance
comic again or a gothic, but I doubt it. One of the
things that I miss about Charlton is how they would
publish a wide variety of comics. And it still amazes me
how everyone else had great sucess with superheroes,
but they just never seemed to sell that well for
Charlton even thought they had some great ones.


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You may be thinking of one of the printings of
Leiber's "Conjure Wife", with what looks like a standard
gothic romance cover on it (Image the surprise on a
gothic fan's face about half-way through). "Marilyn"'s
real name was William Edward Daniel Ross, and authored
something like 350 books. Shock Press is considering
reprinting all 32 of his Dark Shadows books, by the way.


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Oops! Further research on the site with the info
on Marilyn/Dan Ross shows that it is horribly out of
date, and a search of Amazon.com gives no evidence of
the promised book on his/her work ever being
published.


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..2B more precise , I , recently , saw a review
of a reissued 70s Leiber novel , the protag.
being..." a writer...paying the rent by writing hack
novelizations of a supernatural soap opera pseudonymously " ,
with the indication 'twas autobiographical-esque .


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That may be "Our Lady of Darkness" (I need to
read it one day). But...<br><br>Getting further off
topic all the time, Harlan Ellison is supposed to haunt
used book shops looking for books written by other
writers in their earlier days. These books are always
under pseudonyms and from publishers like Bee-Line or
Harlequin. He then gives them to the writer as a birthday or
Christmas present.<br>It's amazing the man has lived as
long as he has.<br><br>Closer to being on topic, I
wonder why there hasn't ever really been a romance comic
based on gothics or regency romances. Granted, most
romance comics consist of short stories, but a comic with
a kind of continuing plotline would have been
possible. "Millie the Model" was a soap opera when I first
started reading comics ("They were my sister's", he says
defensively), so why not?


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Wellll...Scooby is all they showed in the
preview, and a CGI house, in a Batman parody. Any wonder I
thought the whole thing would be computer generated? (I'm
not up on the latest Scooby info, if you know what I
mean. I hate the show and have since 1968 or so).


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of the charlton heroes and posted it on eBay if anyone is interested.<br><br><a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1045740848 target=new>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1045740848</a><br><br>Ray Villarosa<br>industrialstudios


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Nice one. I like that Peacemaker is front and center. If you hadn't altered his mask he would have covered up Blue Beetle.<br><br>Thanks for sharing it with us.<br><br>Dean


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&gt;&gt;Nice one. I like that Peacemaker is front
and center. If you hadn't altered his mask he would
have covered up Blue
Beetle.<br>&lt;&lt;<br><br>Thanks, even if it wasn't going to cover BB, I just
couldn't get into trying to make Peacemakers helmet as
Boyette drew it, to look right given the style I drew it
in.<br><br>Ray Villarosa<br>industrialstudios


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...Bee-Line is , an old-scchewel o publisher ,
isn't it ?<br> " MILLIE "-wise , I'd sure B happy if'n
youse could direct me 2 a list of all the versions that
Millie has gone through and when - pre-Code GGA title ,
light soap opera , " Stan & Stan " demi-Archie - more
??????? - A listing of her/the characters' MUniverse
interactions would B cherce , as well , but , even without
that !!!!!!!!!!!


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...It would appear that the word that rhymes with " torn-o " - referring to Bee-Line - is censored by the software , or something .


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Not bad, Ray.  Nice piece.<br><br>Loston


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I bought one of these on ebay a few weeks ago, and it should arrive soon.  I'll try to scan some of the stuff for those who might want to check it out.<br><br>Loston


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Bee-Line is/was a porno house. Their LEGITIMATE offspring is Pinnacle/Tor Books.


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Bee-Line also gave us another kind of men's
action. As Pinnacle they really kind of jump started the
modern men's action novel with Don Pendelton's
Executioner series. And after that the somewhat off beat, but
highly enjoyable, Destroyer series.


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I hope you do Loston. I for one would dearly love
to see some of those things from that Guide. I
assume this is the one that Nick Cuti put together that
was sent out as a premium with subscriptions in the
70's.<br><br>Dean


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...I seem to recall A-Plus/ACG advertising a
reprint of it at some point , too ! - Uv Cawss , whether
'twas , ever , PUBLISHED , is , anudder ?...<br> Oh ,
and ,..." o " . <br> And , speaking of ACG...


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...The 2nd topic , above , was a test...It would appear that , this computer , won't print ( as I said , ) " torn-o "...


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...That is an excellent drawin' !...D'ya theennk
, that , mebbe , th' C-sters could , somehow , be
used in the Justice League animated series/comical
buekue thereof ( Neither of which I have had the
privledge too see yet ! ) , hey ? Did any Charlton-ers
appear in , th' , late-90s Adventures iIn The DC 'Verse
title ??????? I suppose it would be asking too much to
ask 4 a drawin' of Killjoy ? ( Nobody would , ever ,
post him for me , ) Or , Barney Google/Snuffy Smith
char-ack-teherrrs ? Goo Goo Googly !


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...I theennk , 4 , here (?) . a review o' th' ACG
" DICK TRACY - CRIMEBUSTER " volume of nine "
rebound " issues , " limited " 2 200 copies , it said ,
$19.95 . ( Which IS a boggain when taken agin'
in-di-viddle $2.95 prices ! ) <br> Frankly , a problem is that
, containing 9 issues ( " DICK TRACY CRIMEBUSTER "
1-8 , and , the I-guess-an-attempted-relaunch "
CRIMEBUSTER " #1 , numero uno , which I thinksest I
individdl'y reviewed a WAAYY long # o' posins' ago ! ) ,
there's three D.T. stories/plots - but only one
absolutely complete story ! 1-4 includes the " Return Of
Pruneface " story , 4-8's " Toxic Trouble " story ( The
only one , I believe , I hadn't read before , actually
! ), with #9 promised to wrap it up - But , th' new
#1 starts up " Upward Lee-Mobile "'s saga . <br>
This could B considered a BIG problem !<br> This aside
, the reprinted Locher daily/Sundays ( Presumably
edited , somewhat ! ) ( I'll mention scripter Collins in
recalling him once making a statement re: " comic strip
fans wanting complete/unedited reprints " Too true !
)<br>, even w/occasional " missing panel ( five out of
six ) space - kind of an attractive " phone book "
feel , jus' like I'm told those sneaky Nips' comics
have , actually . <br> Th' C. reprints are nice , and
there's plenty of them . Some may have appeared in other
recent-times ACG releases - Ah , well , that's funnybooks for
ya !!!!!!!!!<br> Well , there ya have it !!!!!!!!!


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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:15:23 -0800
Subject: Hold an action hero in your hands!
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Coming from DC Direct in July,
2002!<br><br>Picking up the mantle of his predecessor, Daniel Garrett,
research scientist Ted Kord became The Blue Beetle. Though
lacking the mystical blue scarab that gave Garrett
super-powers, Kord turned his skills as an acrobat and
Olympic-level athlete to fighting crime as the new Blue Beetle!
The action figure features multiple points of
articulation, stands approximately 6.25" tall, and is packaged
with a strobe gun and a<br>grapple cable that the
figure can grip, attached to a suction cup that allows
the figure to swing freely. Packaged in a 4-color
blister pack. <br><br>AND...<br><br>Crusading journalist
Vic Sage made a name for himself by opposing the
forces of crime. But when<br>reporting on criminal
activity proved to be ineffective, Sage adopted the
identity of The Question, a faceless (thanks to the blank
mask he wore) opponent of injustice! The action figure
features multiple points of articulation, stands
approximately 6.375" tall, and comes with a removable hat that
has his mask attached. Packaged in a 4-color blister
pack. <br><br>There are pictures in the photo section!
Pretty cool,
huh?<br><br>Bruce<br><a href=http://www.startrektoptens.com target=new>http://www.startrektoptens.com</a>


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I just hope they go ahead and make them. Tomar-Re was due out in November, and I'm still waiting.<br><br>Too bad they probably won't do classic Captain Atom, Nightshade, Son of Vulcan, or Judomaster.


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Waltsland,<br><br>I'll see what I can do about a Killjoy drawing in the future.  The problem is: I don't have much in the way of reference for the character.  You have anything?<br><br>Loston


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Here's a link to the DC Direct site:<br><a href=http://www.dccomics.com/dcdirect/index.html target=new>http://www.dccomics.com/dcdirect/index.html</a><br><br>You'll find images of the various figures to the right.  The Blue Beetle is EGGGSSSSELLLENT.<br><br>Loston


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I did a real quick marker drawing for you, Walt:<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/killjoy.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/killjoy.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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...Thank you VERY MUCH ! Oh , boy !!!!! Hoy , hoy !!!!! KILLJOY !!!!!<br>  I don't have the ability to download , etc. , at present...


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Subject: see my sci fi art join the enterprise gr
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The Enterprise group with my sci fi
art!<br><br>click under the photo section for random sci fi
art!<br><a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/starshipenterprise001701/ target=new>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/starshipenterprise001701/</a><br><br>See ya there join today to see my work!


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I remember an artist by the name of Cowan ...if I
am spelling it correctly....he did the question for
a few issues and it was a good comic. Was Ditko
ever called back to do stories? I know he is really
into objectivism by Ayn Rand ...and I just can't get
into his way of thinking. I wrote him once and I
couldn't get a response because I told he believes his
work speaks for itself and he will not talk to fans.
Don't get me wrong ..I love the man's work..but that
objectivism thing...I can see how he clashed with Stan Lee;
because Lee is a flexible guy. Ditko I can see might be
inflexible because he is too stubborn.


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Denys Cowan did the lion share of the run that
went I think tol issue 70, plus a couple of specials.
He then went on the co-crerate the Milestone comics
universe with other creators (Static Shock on Kids WB is
one of those characters). I never used to like Ditko
or his work, merely dimissing him as a hack until I
picked up his Blue Beeltes, then after reading the
Question stories, and I picked up his Mysterious Suspence.
<br><br>I also picked up his Avenging World and all the Mr.
A's, my opinion on his artwork changed. Mind you I'm
still not an objectionist, I just gained an
appreciation for his art.<br><br>The last time the Question
showed up, was in the Huntress miniseries that came out
either in 2000 or 1999, written by Greg Rucka. Nice job
by Rucka and artist Rick Burchett, and I think worth
picking up.<br><br>Ray Villarosa<br>industrialstudios


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Subject: Killjoy Goes To Seattle !!!!! ( And Mila
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no , And...)...Has Killjoy ever been used , as a
symbol , by anti-globalization/leftist protestors , as
in the Seattle protests of more than a yearish ago ,
etc. ???????<br> If so , kinda ironic , given Sturdy
Stevie's position on the ideological scale !


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Has anybody ever even SEEN , the , apparently
promotional/movie-theater giveaway and quite valuable , C. movie comic of
the movie " 1776 " ?<br>My parents told me that I'd
get 2tu see th' movie ( I'd , already , seen the
B'way show ! ) - I never did - Guess I'll have 2 dig
their ashes up and yell at 'em , an' satisfy my inner
child , eh ????????? <br> Anyway , it's a Howard
DaSilva/comics connection , beyond , that is , doing narration
for this ( reputedly ) quite bad re-cropping of "
DOCTOR WHO " for U.S. commercial TV purposes !!!!!!!!!
Cool , cool , considerate WLL ( Looking sharp ,
Mama...I don' believe Freddie Prinze ( Um , Sr. ) ever got
involved w/C. , so , we can't have any " LOOOOKKIINNNNG
GOOOOOOD !!!!!!!!! " jokes here . No . <br>That Would Not
Be Right . )


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The Dark Knight Strikes Back. If only for the
cameo appearence it was neat to see him back. Jimmy
Olsen appears as a burned out TV commentator like
Geraldo. He openly critizes the Prez and gets pummeled by
the Secret Service. It's a wild book. If you are not
used to the Sin City style of art. I always liked his
run on Daredevil and especially Dark Knight. I don't
think he was the powerhouse of a name like he used to
be in 1986 but I still love his work. <br><br>The
only way I got to see it was because you can get it at
Waldenbooks. That is my only source of comics now because all
my local shops are out of bisiness. You'd think with
the new war going on that comics and heros would be
selling well but I think the future of comics is on the
net. I would like to think that somehow all the
vintage stuff will be preserved in e book format for
those new electronic Star Trek like tablets that come
out every year. I was going to get an e bookman but
saw the bad reviews and the store I work at returned
them in mass quantities because they could not hold
that much information. I've read that they are not
fine tuned yet to a science and the manufacturers are
still getting the bugs out of them.


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<a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/happy.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/happy.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


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Thanks, Loston! :))<br><br>Doc


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I have a feeling that the Question will play a further role in DK2 as the miniseries progresses.


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That's an excellent cartoon. Do you have a site of all your work?


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kirk,<br><br>I'm actually working on a site over
the holiday break. It should be up and running by mid
January. Until then, you can find samples of my work at
the following links:
<br><br><a href=http://www.basementcomics.com/Lost01.html target=new>http://www.basementcomics.com/Lost01.html</a><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/gallery.html target=new>http://www.geocities.com/~cmwallace/gallery.html</a>
<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/portfolio.html target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/portfolio.html</a><br><br>Loston


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this is terrific stuff! can I put a link to it on my Enterprise site?


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From: sonofvulcan
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Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 05:04:19 -0800
Subject: Merry Christmas Charltonians!
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There is no QUESTION that this is the season to
be thankful. Even if we find a lone brown mouse and
a BLUE BEETLE or two under the tree, still we need
to remember what we have. Even if we find NIGHTSHADE
instead of fruitcake and candy we need to feel happy for
the bounty which is ours. Neither a distant
THUNDERBOLT nor CAPTAIN ATOM himself are more powerful than
the ultimate PEACEMAKER we celebrate
today!<br><br>Merry Christmas to all my fellow
Charltonians!<br><br>Dean


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Well said Dean, and Merry Christmas to you too!<br><br>Rome<br><a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


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Subject: Charlton Comics Online?
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Are there any Charlton Comics Online? The company went out of business years ago so are their comics inventory in public domain?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:44:54 -0800
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I don't know if anyone has put scans of Charlton
comics online. But, according to the information in
Comic Book Artist magazine, the companies properties
are owned by various companies and persons. The more
familiar action heroes are owned by DC, except for
Thunderbolt, which is owned by his creator, Pete Morisi. I
believe they mentioned something which would be owned by
Joe Simon. And E-Man is owned by Joe Staton. Some is
owned by a company in Canada, which is reprinting some
material under the ACG imprint. And there are supposed to
be other properties which are uncertain as to
ownership. As far as Charlton copyrights it seems to be one
big mess. I doubt anything is in the publis domain,
but this situation makes it hard to tell. Wish some
were though...would love to play with them.


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Anyone want to comment on what there all-time
favorite Charlton comic is? Figured it might be a small,
but fun way to ring in the New Year--gettin' to know
each other's tastes. It's a tough question for me to
answer, but I suppose I'd say Doomsday +1 #1. That was a
cool series! Runners up would be Blue Beetle #1 (Ditko
version) or the first appearance of Captain Atom. Also
fond of the Ghost/Horror books too.<br><br>Loston


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E-Man is my number one favorite. With Cuti's
stories and Staton's art, it was an unbeatable
combination. Other favorites are some of the forgotten heroes
of Charltons, such as Byrne's Rog-2000 and Ditko's
Killjoy. Another character that I liked, who only appeared
in one issue of E-Man was Liberty Belle, Ditko's art
was
outstanding.<br><br>Rome<br><br><a href=http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html target=new>http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html</a>


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This is a tough one. If I have to pick just one
then I have to go for...E-Man#6. That one is beautiful
for the exceedingly clever and very emotional story
by Cuti and Staton up front and the wonderfully
inventive debut of Byrne's Rog-2000 in the back-up.
<br><br>My back up to that one is likely a
surprise...Hercules #5. This one is a total blast by Gill and Sam
Glanzman with perhaps the best work by Glanzman on the
character to date. In a time when full-page art was
relatively rare that full page shot of the mythic Atlas
still blows me away. Glanzman was hitting his artistic
peak on the series with this one. Later the book
became too pop-artish for my tastes.<br><br>Number three
on the all-time list is Charlton Premiere #1. The
Shape by Grass Green, the Tyro Team by Skeates and
Spookman by Boyette are a tough trio of features to beat.
What a great book this is. Talk about a range of
atmoshperes...this one has it.<br><br>Dean


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...I gues Ditko has my bubbula Killjoy , Byrne
recovered Mauser , The Last Kiss guy has...the material
feom First Kiss ?...and I thin ACG , the Canadians ,
has pretty-much-ev'thi'g not- otherwise-mentioned...?


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...Don'really have my 'riginals ...Guess I'd
haveta go 4 a...sniff !...Killjoy title ? There were ,
just , two ? And I DON'T HAVE ANY ! KILLJOY , COME
BACK TO ME !!!!!!! <br> Maybe a Barney Goog/Snuffy S.
? ( Sweet Mama ! )<br> Or , a Doc Graves ? Maybe
the Boo ! Beatles ! w/th' " Question lectures the
no-goods why he won't save 'em " story ? Mysterios Susp.
#1 ? Or . ANY Charlt. ish w/th' ad for th'lil'
guitar stickerthat said " Bullshit " ?


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ACG has reprinted what looks like it might be the
first two issues of "This Magazine is Haunted" in a
single volume. ACG has been discussed often here, so
bear in mind, I'm not recommending, just informing.
<br>What's neat is that it has the Charlton emblem in the
corner...


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My favourite Charlton of all time? That is easy!
But, I forget the issue #. My fave Charlton is the
Judomaster issue wherein The costumed Japanese THE ACROBAT
character is unmasked by JM, and his girlfriend Susikawa
(Acrobat's sister), upon learning The Acrobat is her
brother, calls him a fool. Both the story and art are so
beautiful . I think it is issue #97 but I could be wrong.
The Acrobat was cover-featured in 2 issues but
appeared in 3 issues, one, a cameo. I am also very fond of
the first appearance of the Cat in Judomaster. And,
what a neat cover that was, with the Cat menacing JM
with a bokken...! Anyone else like these books? JM
remains my favourite Charlton here.<br>Phil Latter


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Favorite Charlton comic? That's a tough one as
I've been a long time fan of the company. My first
Charlton was Atomic Mouse so that would get a nod for the
funny animal stuff. But, if I had to pick one, I guess
it would be Charlton Premiere #2, which contained
Children of Doom by Denny O'Neil. But I can't mention
favorites without saying Captain Atom. That great Ditko art
and the concept just really got to me. To me that was
one of the most negleted characters who really could
have been a big star. Hate what DC did with the
character though. And I can't slight E-man as he is a
favorite too. Who else but Charlton would publish some of
the titles they did? I think that is one of the
reasons I liked them. They did a wide range of titles.
Why they never really hit with super-heroes when
everyone else did is a mystery.


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Thanks a lot for the tip. I'll give it a look
later today when I venture out for a little light
comics shopping. That is comic for which I have no
examples.<br><br>I too love those old logos. It gives the reprints a
neat sense of history they lack without
them.<br><br>Dean


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Dean,<br><br>I received my copy of "The Comic
Book Guide for the Artist*Writer* Letterer" the other
day. I have to say that it was pretty disappointing.
It really doesn't have much to say. It's utterly
brief, and hardly helpful in any way. Still, it is nice
to finally have it after 25 years for it! Always
wanted to get it as a kid. If you still want, I can
attempt to scan it sometime in the future, or if you'd
like, I can run off a copy of it at Kinko's for
you.<br><br>Loston


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That would be great Loston. I think everyone here
would love to get a glimpse of that old bit of stuff so
scan if you can. I know what you mean though about
finally getting your mitts on something you've yearned
for years on end. It can sometimes be very
anti-climatic indeed.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Dean


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Everyone else has made great choicers and my
first thought was to say my fave Charl;ton book was the
1st appearance of Capt. atom. However, after a couple
seconds, the one C. comic that made me sooo happy to get
that I still remember it to this day was the giant
Gorgo-Konga reprint, showing Ditko at just about his best
(after his early stuff in the 50s). Getting a "giant"
24-center comic filled with these giant monsters was a
trteat as a teenager and I was eager for more, and it
remains a "special" event in my memory. It was a darn
good comic deal for the time.


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I know that the guide is really thin, but there
wasn't anything else at the time that gave any sort of
instructions on how to do comics professionaly. That Charlton
even came out with such a guide made them unique. No
other company had anything for the fledgling pro. And
before that I had no idea what sort of form to use for a
comic book script. It was that guide that enabled me to
write a script and sell it to Charlton. That little
guide was not a disappointment to me. It was a godsend.
I wish I still had a copy. Used mine so much the
covers tore off and I think I lost it in a move.<br>I
was wondering if you had the first printing with the
color cover or the second with the b&w cover. I don't
remember what it was, but their were slight changes from
the first printing to the second. I think it was in
the selection of illustrations used for some
sections.


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My favorite Charlton comic purely as "reader" and
not for its nostalgia qualities would be Doomsday +1
or E-Man. These were the only books I remember
buying as a kid and not having them "willed" to me in an
old box with other comics. But for the whole comic
experience (letters, text pages, ads, covers) I would have
to go with Judomaster (it gets the nod for those
"how to" Karate features.


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Mr Cashflagg: FINALLY! Someone else who agrees
with me that JUDOMASTER was the best that Charlton put
out. It's okay that you liked it for different
reasons. And yeah I am mostly kidding, but still, we do
seem to be in the minority by that being our fave
Charlton book! Anything in particular you liked about the
series other than the JUDO how-too's-? And yep, I really
would like to know... Dean, yes, I think it would
really be great if you could post the pages from that
Charlton aritst/writer comic creator Charlton booklet they
put out so many years ago. I never had a copy, but a
friend did...I would love to see it on the net so I can
print it off, please...<br>Hope everyone had a great
holiday!<br>Best,<br>Phil


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I know what you say is true. For its time, it was
probably a treasure to behold. Other than HOW TO DRAW
COMICS THE MARVEL WAY, there were no other comic "how
to" guides. I'm only disappointed due to the passage
of years and the built up expectations. Since it's
initial release, there has been a number of informative
books on the "ins" and "outs" of comics. They have
spoiled me. Still the nostalgia of it is a wonderful
thing<br> The kid in me is still overjoyed to have finally
gotten it. I feel like he's been satisfied, but the
professional in me is the one that is somewhat disappointed. I
suppose he expected more from it. Regardless, I'll see if
I can scan it at some point.<br><br>Loston


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Let's see the guide! I remember the ad from eons
ago! Was Steve Ditko and his art in this one? I was
really dissapointed in Steve when I found out that he
will not even answer an e-mail. About ten years ago I
wrote to him in care of thing books with Robin Snyder.
I found it to be a slap in the face to the fans
that followed his work. He says his work speaks for
itself. However if no one read his work; he'd have to
find another way to make a living. If you don't
acknowledge your fans in any way you are not going be popular
for long.<br><br>I didn't expect nothing grand. I
just wanted someone to show him my letter to says
thanks for all the years of great artwork.


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In any of the press about the new Spiderman movie
was there any mention of Steve Ditko and his
involvment with Spider Man? The ol' publicity Marvel steam
roller will only credit Stan Lee as the sole creator and
artist of the book. I remember one magazine that stated
he was the artist! I think this is the good ol' boys
corporate types that don't want to pay residules to any
co-creators.


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...............cow patties..............as they say down in Texas , pardner.................................................................................................................


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..........the point of #1484 , that , apparently
(!) , got et up by on a' them lil' censorship
thingies...#1498 was an attempt 2 see ir a eumpemism would get by
, and , apparently it will...<br>" Cow Patties " ,
pard , it could score a hit , and , steer , or " Elsie
" , a " bull " drops...<br>Y'know , that 1970s
sticker , that , if memory serves correctly , imitated
the " Love " sticker , Buutt , said...<br>( " Pull
Mitt " )<br>I was interested by it getting by th' Code
, back then ! Wooww !!!!!!!<br>As I said above , I
couldn't get a - " certain earthy , 'tho not ' urban ' "
phrase , past th' lil' Yahoo!s !!!!!!!!!


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Well doggone it thanks. <br>Keep in mind,
Judomaster is my 20/20 hindsight choice. Yes, it is better
than Doomsday and it is better than E-Man in my eyes,
but as an off-the rack, browsing the drugstore for
comics kid, I preferred those two to Ripley's Believe it
Or Not Adventures. That said, the reasons
are:<br>Not to minimize the creative / artistic qualities of
Judomaster. (come to think of it, that does sound funny (like
the Freudian overtones of Leave it to Binky)I have
always enjoyed Frank McLauflin's art (especialy over
Dick Dillon on Justice League)Although I considered
Aparo the best artist of that era at Charlton. It's not
just the quality of the art either, his pacing is top
drawer. I always enjoyed teen sidekicks and I think (look
out here it comes again) the jingoistic tones that
underscored many Charlton titles through the 70s (especially
the War books)seem less out of place in the WWII
setting of Judomaster, than say, Captain Atom. And
frankly, I preferred the entire 20 pages going to the
star, I rarely liked back-up series. The idea that you
could train and BE this guy was/and still is appealing
to me. No radioactivity, no magic mists, no cutting
edge 60s technology.


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I think if I had to pick a series from Charlton
which maintained a consistently high quality of
production throughout its run, Judomaster would get the nod.
The artwork by McLaughlin was very good and you can
see him improve as the series progresses.<br><br>Dean


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Hey! And speaking of ol' Judomaster, alias (in
the old comics, 'THE CRIMSON CRUSHER'/'SCARLET
SMASHER'...any of you remember the old JM letters page
controversy over his mask's ponytail, which in the early
issues was part of his long hair poking through a hole
in the top of his mask, and in later issues,it was
longer, and just PART OF the mask. Many lettercol writers
loved the TOP KNOT (ponytail) as they called it, others
hated it and wanted it gone. I was one of the former.
Whenever a LOC was printed that wanted it removed, I was
like,(reading it)..."SHADDUP!!!"<br>For some reason I really
liked-and still like it. It's a cool costume, and even
cooler with it. Not so the DC white eeeeeeeechhhh!
version. Hey! Maybe there was a good reason Marvel put out
a series called NOT BRAND EEEEEEEEEECHHHH!!! Other
"top knot" characters over the years....(only on top
of masks count...) Zaran (master of kung fu), killer
shrike, and there is one more on the tip of my
tongue...AAAARGH! Help me out here, guys!!!<br><br>Phil


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Judomaster's original outfit is one of the great
superhero costumes. That blast of red and yellow jumps off
the comics page at you. I too loved the "ponytail".
It was a unique detail of the costume and no more
unusual than Captain America's little wings or Batman's
ears.<br><br>I imagine the changes made to Judomaster's costume
by DC might have something to do with the overt
nationalism of the first outfit. That's just speculation, and
I'm likely giving them too much credit. More likely
in fact they just wanted to change it. I note that
the female Judomaster who appeared only once (to my
knowledge) had a different design too. The fact the new
outfit had echoes of Tiger's old uniform was at least a
neat touch.<br><br>You have insipired me Phil. I may
have to dig out my old Judomaster's and give them
another read.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Dean<br><br>P.S. I
can't think of the other top-knotted character. I well
remember the two you mention.


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Thanks Dean! I am flattered. Actually, there was
no female JM that I know of. There was a different
(guy) in the suit in one issue of Justice League
International. The issue with all the Charlton action heroes on
the cover, but that was it. Okay, okay. I will check
tonight.(Smile)<br><br>Phil


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Hey Dean! Remember how I knew there was one other
top-knotted masked character in the comics, but I couldn't
remember who it was, and you didn't know? Well...I just
remembered! It was Ironman's foe Blacklash! Originally, in
the 60's, in Tales of Suspense, he had an orange
costume whip a cape, and a mask with a red topknot. When
he became Blacklash, his costume became black, with
purple gloves and boots, and with a black mask with a
pastel green topknot. I think I won the topknot
costest...Hey, that's a dare. Anyone listening?<br>Phil


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Another thing about the Judomaster who appeared
only once in an issue of JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL:
you are right. This "JM" as you so correctly pointed
out had a totally different costume that any other
version. Moreover, it was a different person under the
mask. No explanation was made as to who he really was,
where he came from, how he came to take over the mantle
of Judomaster, and also....he was never seen again.
THANK GOD!!!! And hey DC any DC employee ever reads
this: The only JUDOMASTER IS RIP JAGGER (NOT
"RIPLEY"---she's the chick in the ALIEN/ALIENS movie!!) Also, the
only good JM suit was the original, the others
S-T-I-N-K. with a capital S. And you can sign
me.....<br>Phil Latter. Bubbaloo.


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Frankly....(Can I be perfectly frank with you???)
To which you reply, "Hey, you can be anyone you
want!" But, frankly....in my view (the one one that
matters-h'yuk)...the only DC-changed Charlton outfit that was actually
an improvement was Thunderbolt's. Pete Morisi was
asked in an interview somewhere I read if the new T
bolt suit was an improvement. They kept asking him
over and over. He sat on the fence. I wonder if a) he
thought it was, but b) didn't want to admit it since DC
had illegally used his character (Morisi owns the
character outright)...without his permission. Thus, if if
he thought it was an improvement he couldn't very
well say that yeah, their version of the suit was
better....What do you think?<br><br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:34:34 -0800
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You're obviously right about the JLI Judomaster.
I can only imagine that I momentarily confused the
new Judomaster with Nightshade's (to me at the time
anyway) new look. I am already looking into possible
medication, since the ability to tell the difference between
the sexes hasn't so far been a problem for
me.<br><br>I like the classic Judomaster, but I'm not going to
say that no change wouldn't improve things. But I
have to agree that it would be hard to imagine.
<br><br>There is a great untold story there about the one-shot
Judomaster. Hopefully someone will pick it up sometime and
give us a scoop about how that particular character
evolved.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:39:33 -0800
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The new T-Bolt look was more a close variation on
the original and that's why I think it worked so
well. They essntially tweaked an already strong
design.<br><br>The storyline though was less than exciting though. I
picked up a few of those, and the exotic atmosphere
which PAM created was obviously very important to the
overall effect. Boyette was able to approximate it but
only PAM could fully evoke T-Bolt's world.
<br><br>Dean


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Subject: Any chance of seeing the Question..
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Has Steve Ditko's question ever made a return
recently? I know when I went to see his Ditko "Package"
books...there was no mention of any Question comics or stories
on his site. If he does own the character I am
surprised that he didn't publish it in a paperback yet.


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<a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/starshipenterprise001701/ target=new>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/starshipenterprise001701/</a>


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...DC owns the Question...100% ( There any
Killjoy on that site ??? )...And , actually , th' ?/Vic
Sage , or so I'm told , makes an appearance in
Miller's current " THE DARK KNIGHT STRIKES AGAIN " , which
I haven't read . DC reprinted " MYSERIOUS SUSPENSE
#1 " in their 1999/2000 wave of Millenium Editions .


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Right on! I was just about to comment that DC
owns the Question, when someone beat me to it! You're
right, The Question is owned lock, stock and barrel by
DC! Still, it would serve DC right if someone else
did The Question Unlicensed---except DC would have a
mult million $ lawsuit on that individual...even
though DC published Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt without
Morisisi's permission. Basically, DC figured an individual
couldn't fight DC-since DC is owned by Warner-basically,
the largest entertainment company in the entire
world. "Bar none". It would be fun to see the shoe on
the other foot for a change, but I wouldn't want to
be the guy who tried it...! The crooks always win,
when they're rich and/or famous. Read:
O.J.Simpson.....<br>Phil


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...As I've commented , here , B4 , the whole..."
thang "...of DC taking T-bolt , then , eventually ,
giving it back to PAM/letting him reclaim it
is...interesting . Did you get the Comic Book Artist 60s C. ish ?
Both the ints. with Pete , & w/Richard , th' G. ,
covered it briefly , Dick G. seeming 2 hint that he used
( After the early-90s DC series flopped , anyway .
) gentle persuasion/an appeal to - ha ha ha ha - "
corporate conscience " , using his insider's position , to
get DC to allow PAM to...Well , I said it...<br>
Thank you and good afternoon...


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Subject: THE HUMAN FLY
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How many of you remember the Marvel comic title
of the 1970's THE HUMAN FLY ? It was a real life
person who was Canadian, dressed in a superhero costume,
and never revealed his identity. Marvel based a
series on him. Well, I recently discovered in my files
an old People magazine article about him from 1977
that showed his true name and face. I have always been
interested about this Evil Kanevil wannabe but can find
almost no data on him on the internet or elsewhere. I do
not even know if he is still alive. I heard a rumour
he may have died several years ago in one of his
stunts but this is unsubstantiated. Can anyone help with
info? This is a subject I am very interested in. Any
info would be appreciated. Thanks.<br>Phil


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I well remember the series (I have the full run), but I'm afraid I know nothing about the fate of the real man who inspired it. Frank Robbins did some dandy work on this one.<br><br>Dean


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I remember that series.  I loved it.  I saw the Human Fly back in the 80's on a show called "That's Incredible."  It was cool.<br><br>Rome


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Didn't Lee Elias handle some art chores on that
series? (And for you Atlas/Seaboard members)Didn't Jim
Craig (Hands of the Dragon, Scorpion-Issue 3)work on
that title prior to its cancellation at about issue
40?


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Actually yes, I believe Lee Elias (golden age artist) indeed did some Human Fly issues, if memory serves. Frank Robbins did some as well. However, there were only 19 issues published not 40<br>Phil


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Hi Dean! I,too, got the Atlas CBA and have been
reading it for days! Ditkp I see is as temperamental as
ever! Chip sounds like an incompetent idiot, and Martin
Goodman certainly sounds like a tunnel-visioned
egomaniac. Starting a company as an act of vengeance. It
sounds crazy, and the proof was in the pudding. The
company went T**S up! I actually liked a handful of their
titles, but a lot was lackluster. Another view I read
(slant) on Atlas in the past was that Marvel purposefully
put out "tons" of reprint books in addition to their
numerous other books, feeling that true "Marvelites" would
buy everything they could possibly afford, and Marvel
would hope that would leave the kids broke with no more
money LEFT to buy the "upstart" Atlases. So it looks
like Goodman and Atlas , and Marvel both decided an
act of vengeance was necessary. After all, Atlas was
out to OutMarvel Marvel. Plus, who knows? Stan may've
seen his brother Larry as a turncoat. It was indeed a
case of too much, too fast. Had they started small,
then introduced newer characters in current books
slowly, THEN branched them out into THEIR own books later
on (Valiant did this, DC does this), maybe Atlas
would still be with us. Then again...Can you imagine
how Martin Goodman felt...when Atlas collapsed, and
he in effect, ended up taken vengeance....upon
himself,,,???!!<br>As for Chip, sounds to me like Marvel got rid of him
cuz he WAS incompetent! What say you all?<br>Phil


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Far be it from me to say that someone I've never
met, nor ever worked with was incompetent, but it sure
seems that was the ONE thing the folks from the
Atlas-Seaboard experience could agree upon.<br><br>They disagree
why the Goodmans started the project, they disagree
about the effectiveness of a young Jeff Rovin, they
disagree about when the project actually fell on fatal
times, but they all concur that Chip was not very good
at the comics business.<br><br>More
later.<br><br>Dean


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I agree Dean. As the saying goes, "30 million
frenchmen cannot be wrong." Anyhoo...My fave title at Atlas
was The Destructor, both cuz the art was great by
Ditko and Wood. I also liked the premise and the
(first) costume. I liked the 1st 2 issues better than the
2nd two. I didn't like the 2nd, darker costume nor
the later obligatory (read:unnecessary, stupid)
powers eg: force bolts from the hands, nor the insipid
story in #4. I had a subsciption to Destructor,
beginning with issue #3. Big mistake. #3 came FOLDED IN
HALF(!), AND #4 WAS THE SAME, MAILED NUMEROUS MONTHS AFTER
#3.Of course, for the balance of the subsciption I was
ripped off of course. Like many, many mail order
experiences I have had with Jim Steranko. (Doug Sulipa
himself has told me that he has heard of lots of other
people being ripped off by Jim, but of course, that of
course is meandering a wee off topic from Atlas. See how
I shrewdly shoe horned it in there?<br><br>Phil


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Several months back, someone here eroniously
reported at charlton bullseye site that Bob Guccione
committed suicide some years back. I knew at the time that
that info was not correct, but I wondered where that
misinfo had come from. Last night, while reading CBA#16
(Atlas issue), I found out. Therein it was reported that
several years back, the publisher of PENTHOUSE COMIX (NOT
PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE), did commit suicide. However, this was
not Bob Guccione. In the Woody Harrelson movie based
on Bob's life, it shows that someone attempted to
assassinate Bob, shot him, but he did survive. <br><br>Phil


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That movie was based on Larry Flynt, the publisher of Hustler. THe assassination attempt left him paralyzed. You're right about Bob Guccione being alive, though.


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starsky/hutch...yep, you are right about that movie. I was wrong. But we are both correct that Bob Guccione is still alive.<br>Phil


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The Human Fly (who we were talking about a few days ago) was in reality Torontonian George Willig<br>Phil


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Hi folks. Kindly disregard my last post about the
true identity of the real life HUMAN FLY COSTUMED
DAREDEVIL, who Marvel years ago devoted a 19 issue comics
series to. I have done more internet research on him
since then. It turns out that numerous people (the
first I could locate did death defying stunts in 1916
and referred to himself as THE HUMAN FLY)... have
used that nom de plume over expansive decades. George
Willig was a "Human Fly" daredevil as well. In 1977,
Willig illegally scaled the late WORLD TRADE IN NEW
YORK. For his efforts, he was fined $1.10---one penny
for each story of the building. He was going to be
fined a great deal more, but there was a public outcry.
He, however, was NOT the Human Fly Marvel devoted a
comics series to. That costumed HUMAN FLY WAS (OR IS
STILL, I AM UNCLEAR ON THAT)---one Rick Rojatt. And yes,
I am sure of this. For proof, go visit the
following website, which I have just discovered! Photos and
everything! <a href=http://www.the-rocketman.com/human_flygrfx.html target=new>http://www.the-rocketman.com/human_flygrfx.html</a>
Also, another site to visit is
<a href=http://www.badpress.co.uk/humanfly/ target=new>http://www.badpress.co.uk/humanfly/</a> The first site pertains to the real life Human
Fly (Rick Rojatt) that the comics series is based on.
The second site I have listed is a web site for the
comic book site of the Marvel HUMAN FLY version.
Now....How's that for research?<br>Kudos.<br>Phil


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If you have trouble reaching the real life fly's site, go to a prompt and simply type in the keywords    rick rojat human fly<br>Phil


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Oops sorry folks. That's keywords human fly rick rojatt (with 2 t's)<br>Phil


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IN a previous issue of Comic Book Artist, Devoted
to the THUNDER Agents, this was gone in to a little
more. This guy's suicide more-or-less meant that
Penthouse would never do a THUNDER Agents strip on a
regular basis.<br>With Paul Gulacy art...


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Penthouse Comix was going to be doing Wally Wood's THUNDER Agents?!!!


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Hmmm. I do know at least this much: the
short-lived OMNI COMICS (not Penthouse Comix) did publish at
least one issue which contained a new.Paul Gulacy
Thunder Agents story. The one I have is the one Where
Dynamo, on the story, looks like he is shitting a brick!
LOL. What I would like to know is, was there more than
one issue published with Thunder Agents? And did
PENTHOUSE COMIX publish any Thunder Agents stories, new or
old??????<br>Phil


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The way I understand it Omni Comix was a version
of Penthouse Comix that never got off the ground.
The T-Agents were indeed done for the first issue
(excellently I might add)and other stories (or parts) were
apparently produced by the death of the guy who set it up
quashed the whole deal. I spent a long time trying to
find the follow-up issues myself. <br><br>Maybe
someday, somehow someone will give the Thunder Agents
another shot at the brass ring.<br><br>Dean


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...My understanding , incidentally , is that the
OMMNI/PENTHOUSE comics , were , unlike the couple of Penthouse
titles ( better spell that one , VERY , carefully ! )
that DID come out , briefly , not intended to be " s
only " . The P-H anthologys WERE with enuff
noodie-noodie content 2B " no kids " , the Ommni titles were
supposta be all ages . <br>( Note - the computers that I
work with now - Or , perhaps it's Yahoo! - have some
ABSURD " we won't print that word " censors on them , as
I've mentioned , generally , B-4 , so , I have 2
tippy-toe around ! )


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..." not intendend to be..."...Yeah , there's one
of those " ABSURD ' we won't ' " that I talked about
! <br> Remember a 1980s Darryl Hall and John Oates
single ? " Student body's got a bad situation...What we
want is _____ education ( Oh , yeah ! Oh , yeah ! ) "
That word there .


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Off topic has anyone in our group ever even seen
a copy (in person,I don't mean a photocopy of th
cover...) of the rare Atlas Gothic Romances? Does anyone in
our group own a copy?<br><br>Also off topic, did any
of you folks know that, in the 1940's, some Canadian
Comics companies published unique Canuck comics with the
Whiz Captain Marvel characters? EG: new
stories...unique to Canada.<br>Phil


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...I've read about it , and have asked if the
scripts were originals , whatever...As you presumably
know , it grew out of a Can. gov's tax thing that lead
2 imported Yankee comics being banned from
540/40'-land , which , primarily , led to Can edition reprints
of DC , Dell , and Fawcett , for three , but , yes ,
with some exclusive material as well . Am rushed , so
!!!!!!!...


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I knew it. I think the publisher's name was Bell, and they were actually very good in quality. Different from CC Beck's artwork, but great in their own way.<br><br>Doc


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I remember Captain Canuck (if I spelled it
right..don't think so) it came out so few times I only
remember getting three issues. But if I remember they did
have computer coloring and high quality graphics back
in their 70's issue that I bought sooo long ago. Is
it me or are the comics not fun anymore. I dug up
some of my old Marvel and DC oversize Treasury
Editions and there was nothing like them in the world. The
50 cent and eventually 60 cent DC reprints and new
Material ..I wish those days were back...I miss them and
the only way I get to see them is reading my old
books....and they look better to me with the new garbage
that's out ...sometimes I think I am just getting old
and see see the new violent stuff which passes for
the "cool" thing and I have to say ....the seventies
stuff was much better...


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Hey, I remember Captain Canuck, in fact, I have a site dedicated to him, <a href=http://captaincanuck.homestead.com/title.html target=new>http://captaincanuck.homestead.com/title.html</a><br>Rome


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I have never seen "Gothic Romances". I wasn't
even aware of it until the Comic Book Marketplace
article a couple of years ago. The cover is lovely, and
it was neat to see a few illustrations from the
insides in the recent CBA issue.<br><br>Never knew about
the Canadian Captain Marvel. Would like to see a few
of those.<br><br>Love Captain Canuck! I started
getting the book with issue #9 and quickly acquired the
back issues. The series was a great blend of adventure
and sci-fi. George Freeman's artwork was lovely. The
more recent revival was less successful. <br><br>Dean


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Loved your website. I learned there is at least
one issue of Captain Canuck I don't have (issue #2 of
the most recent series), so I have some work to
do.<br><br>I'm member #37 of the Captain Canuck Fan Club (I
still have my membership card around here somewhere).
Were you ever a member?<br><br>Dean


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Glad you liked the site. The Captain has always
been a favorite of mine. Unfortunately, I was never a
member of the fan club. Say, if you don't mind, could
you send me a scan of that card? I would love to put
that on the site.<br><br>Rome


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I agree with your opinion on the George Freeman
era of Captain Canuck. It was also a great story
line. The revival of Captain Canuck in the early 90s
was too much of a departure for the dedicated C.C.
fans.<br><br>Rome


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By the way, there is a third issue of the
Captain's most recent series. Unfortunately, not many were
made, and the book was in black and white. I have been
searching for this book for years with no
success.<br><br>Rome


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As a card carrying Canadian citizen (smile) I was
15 when Captain Canuck #1 (1st series) was published
in 1975. The series ran 3 issues then no more was
heard from the Captain till about the later 1970's. At
that time 300 serially-#d (Marvel Treasury edition
sized) issues (again,only 300 copies made) were
published and were available only through a mail order
dealer, possibly Doug Sulipa's Comic World, if memory
serves. Each had a certificate of authenticity. It came
in black and white with cardboard covers and is very
rare. I own a copy, having ordered it at the time. Mine
is #169.All are signed. A little later, a 2nd
printing came out of #4, also treasury edition sized, also
in b and w.This time only 15 copies were printed, so
this is even rarer. Then, 3-5 years later, about 1979,
after I had moved to Toronto from Halifax Nova Scotia,
#4 was published in normal comic size, basically, a
reprint of the treasury edition sized first #4. #4 had
the story of "Behind the Mask", art by George
Freeman. The series basically continued the #ing, and last
several issues (14), plus a "Summer Special", which was
really a large annual, with new art by Freeman. In the
early to mid-1990's, original creator Richard Comely
started a new Captain Canuck series. The first issue was
#0 (zero), followed by issues 1,2,and 3. However,
behind the mask was a completely different person (a
caucasian school teacher), whereas the original Cap Canuck
under the mask (as revealed in #4, first series), was a
Canadian native Indian by the name of Tom Evans. The final
Comely series referred to the original, far superior
series as fictional comic book adventures for kids. The
joke is that the most recent series was.....garbage.
The series that Comely poked fun at was excellent,
and the series that discredited the original 15 issue
series (including the annual) was itself pathetic. Also,
the final series turned the excellent Catman
character into some idiot with a paint ball gun.Who called
himself Splatter. Frankly, Canadian comic book partisans
were insulted.<br>Rumours have circulated for years
that Captain Canuck will resurface, but so far the
only indication has been a Canadian postal stamp
issued of Captain Canuck---which is of the George
Freedom good version.<br><br>I too was a member of the
Captain Canuck club, and have a lot of the club
posters,buttons, etc.<br><br>Nice website by the way, only
suggestion I would make is change the mask to the Freeman
version. The version you have there is the final version.
'Nuff said.(Respectfully.)<br>Finally, I just wanted to
mention that the only Captain Canuck b and white versions
existed are the treasury edition sized versions, which
are all rare. However, if I am wrong on this, I sure
would like to know about it.
Thanks!<br><br>Sincerely,<br>Phil Latter


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Wow, you do know your Captain Canuck stuff! I
agree that the original series was the best. The only
other B/W book was the third issue of the last
series.<br>P.S. Thanks for signing my guestbook and your
comments. Say, if you have scans of some of those books you
could send me that would be great! I would like to post
them on the site.


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Dean--did you post that you are having trouble
finding Captain Canuck #2 of the original series in 1975?
The reason I ask is---when that issue was published,
a truck carrying 30,000 issues (yep, thirty
thousand copies) caught fire and burned. They all went up
in smoke. For that reason, #2 is rather scarce. I
would suggest a mail order dealer.<br><br>Shelley
waitaminute! Did you say that #3 of the last series was in
black and white??? If that is true I definately do not
have that one. Do you have an extra copy that you
might consider trading or selling-?<br>Phil


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Unfortunately, I don't have issue three of the last series.  I have been looking  for a couple of years with no luck.


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Shelley-having looked at your Cap Canuck website,
which is very nice, by the way....are you also aware
that Northguard not only appeared in 5 issues of New
Triumph Presents, but also a second, b and w series later
on, with new stories published by Calibre Press? This
was a Canadian Company. Also, the Cap Canuck stamp
issued by the Canada Post came in a set with a
Northguard stamp, a Fleur Des Lis stamp (female hero in
Northguard), Northguard stamp, Superman stamp (one of the
creators of Superman was born in Canada), Northern Light
(female superhero of Canadian Whites ---Canadian comic
books of the 1940's), etc. Thought you might like to
know.<br><br>One neat Cap Canuck item was the cardboard 3-d
diarama wherein Cap Canuck is saving a child from a fire
inside a building.<br>Phil


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I also have in my collection several club
posters, a visor, buttons, a tee shirt from 1975, as well
as personal Cap Canuck postcards and correspondence
from the mid 70's when R Comely and I were
corresponding, even the illustrated Cap Canuck large size Cap
envelopes my subscription issues came in , and Cap C
newspaper and mag articles of the time. I even have a TIME
magazine, with Captain Canuck on the cover, believe it or
not!<br><br>Phil


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Man, I would love to see that collection!  I seem to remember reading about the Captain's appearance on the cover of Time.


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Wow, I didn't realize that about Northguard. I
only have the first issue, but will rectify the
situation. I e-mailed Northguard's creator, a guy named
Shainblum (or something like that). He and Richard Comely
were going to discuss doing another Captain Canuck
book. Unfortunately, nothing ever came of it that I am
aware of. I have e-mailed Shainblum since then, but
never received a reply.<br>I remember seeing the stamp
collection, and tried to find a way to purchase a C.C. stamp,
but have so far been unsuccessful.<br>I haven't seen
the diarama, but would love to have seen it.


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No, the only issue I'm in need of (that I know
of) is the apparent third issue of the 90's return
series. I didn't even know the thing existed until I saw
the cover posted at Rome's website.<br><br>Seems like
I remember hearing about the early issues being
rare, but fortunately I have them all. I might have
some of those old subscription envelopes around too. I
think I got some stickers with my club membership,
though that could be wrong. I'll have to prowl around
for that stuff.<br><br>Dean


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Sorry to be so long in getting back; we had a
quarter change at the school where I work, and the entire
universe stops for that (y'all didn't notice because time
had to stand still or hell freeze over; I don't
remember which). I don't remember if THUNDER was going to
have its own comic, or if it was intended as an
ongoing series in either Penthouse or Omni Comics, but
Penthouse would have published it. The copyright owner had
to agree to let them publish it, or they would have
defaced the art and text (changed them to Thunderman,
Captain Swift, Invisi-Droid, Blackbird, or something like
that) and printed it anyway. That issue of CBA has a
single page of unpublished Gulacy art, I believe from
the next chapter.


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I spoke by phone to my backissues dealer in
Montana over the weekend. Not only did he have one copy
left of the scarce Semple Captain Canuck #3, but the
copy he had was signed on the cover in silver ink by
Richard Comely himself. I put in on my credit card, and
it is in the mail! Bizarre coincidence since I
didn't even know the issue existed prior to a few days
ago! Got it for $10. U.S.! He said here are the
breakdowns on the Semple issues (how many printed of each
is: #0= 60,000. #2= 30,000. #3=8,000. He will get
back to me with the figures on #1<br><br>Phil


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My dealer got back to me by email. Here is a more
accurate sum total: SEMPLE COMIC BOOK COMPANY CAPTAIN
CANUCK ISSUES: #0= 100,000 #1= 60,000 #2=30,000 #3=8000
This comics back issue dealer also mentioned that the
scarce #3 was sold almost entirely through newsstands,
not direct. That's why it wasn't advertised in
PREVIEWS. I hope this info is of help. Oh, I think I forgot
to mention but the Calibre NORTHGUARD series ran 3 b
& w issues.<br>Phil


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Thanks Phil.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:15:52 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: romeandshelly
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:15:52 -0800
Subject: Re: captain canuck 3 by semple found!
In-Reply-To: <000U4RD3B.000MOBHO7.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U4RLK8.000OS0DSF.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Wow, you got a good deal on that one. A couple of
years ago at a "Heroes Aren't Hard to Find" Comic
Convention in N.C., a friend and I were browsing the many
comic vendors. I found the first issue, signed by
Comely for 5 bucks!! I was a happy man.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:46:00 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: waltsland_1999
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:46:00 -0800
Subject: Capt. Canuck Stamps , Etc.
Message-ID: <000U50LJ8.0019BK2B1.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
X-Yahoo-Message-Number: 1560
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I don't have time ( Espec w/a current Yahoo!?
fugazi . ) to read all the posts re: C . C . ,
but...<br>(1) I bought the first , circa-1973 , issue , which
somehow made its way down 2 Pleasantville , N. Y. , but .
I never saw another , then , I believe...<br>(2) I
assume that fan-club stamps are what being talked about
, but , I recall reading that the Canad. government
, a few annums back , had put out some real
Canadian stamps - commemeratives - of " Great Canadian SHs
" , spotlighting CC , several of the 40s ones...and
, a certain Big Blue !!!!!!! ( You do konw of Joe -
not Wayne , RIP... -'s citizenship background , right
????????? )<br>(3) I assume Capt. Canuck appeared on the
put-out-of-business-by-a-change-inthe-Can.-tax-laws TIME CANADA , which my father once worked at
?????????<br>(4) Incidentally , WAS Michael T. Gilbert's " MR
MONSTER " really a remaking of an obscure Forties
Canada-only character , or was that a joke ?????????


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:20:05 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:20:05 -0800
Subject: Are We Still Here?
Message-ID: <000U53BV5.00097K1ME.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
X-Yahoo-Message-Number: 1561
X-Yahoo-Alias: sonofvulcan
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Is anyone else getting a message from the wise
and all-knowing Yahoo that this club has been
deleted? I know I didn't delete it, and I'm pretty sure
Doc wouldn't without some significant notification.
Of course the fact I'm posting this seems to
indicate we aren't gone, but I'm just concerned that this
false message is getting out.<br><br>Does anyone hear
me...anyone?<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:25:51 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:25:51 -0800
Subject: Nicholas Alascia?
Message-ID: <000U53C9V.000R5OEFJ.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Who else like the work of Nicholas Alascia? I
know he much derided by knowing Charlton fans, but his
work is ubiquitous throughout the Charlton line, and I
for one like his treatments from time to time. There
is a predictablity to his work that makes it often
pedestrian, but also his steady designs make sure that any
Charlton book he works on at least achieves a professional
standard.<br><br>There hasn't really been a lot said about Alascia in
either of the Charlton CBA issues, and I'm just a little
curious about his situation. Is he still alive? Does
anyone know?<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:41:03 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:41:03 -0800
Subject: DEAN /ATLAS
Message-ID: <000U53GMV.001E4S9MK.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Well, Dean, having finished the Atlas issue of
CBA(#16) about a week ago, and having read it literally
cover to cover, the only motive I can possibly see for
Atlas' destruction (eg:"DESTRUCTOR") was Martin
Goodman's narrow-focused revenge on Marvel. It was
irrational to so "ape" Marvel to death to such an extreme;
doing so ended up on PARODYING it. A tax writeoff? I
would say that is a heck of a lot of money peed away
for such a reason, not to mention creative energies,
etc. No, to me that doesn't ring true at all. I also
believe Chip either was a) not all that bright, b)
disinterested, c) incompetent, or all three. Martin Goodman
should have known Chip was bad news when Marvel fired
him. Minimum, Marvel must have seen blatantly obvious
his disinterest in the job at Marvel. Marvel
undoubtedly got rid of him before Marvel went bankupt itself.
Which it did several years later. With Chip in charge
it likely would have gone under (before it coming
back) much sooner.<br>Looks like Martin was
tunnel-visioned about lots of things. Vengeance is like that; it
usually precludes calm reasoning. One author in that CBA
issue mentioned that both Goodman's are DEAD. But other
writers therein referred to both as still alive. I
wonder, which is it? <br>Can one blame Marvel for turning
out tons of reprint books so the fans would buy them
first, having no more pocket money at that time for
Atlas? I say no. Look at what Atlas was
doing...Turnabout is fair play; all is fair in love and
war.....Atlas may have found it's niche if it started small.
But it's niche was apparently to bury Marvel. Good
luck! It buried itself and a lot of good concepts that
Goodman ruined. I think a lot of the interviewees came
off well, Rovin included. Choice of distributor
doesn't sound like it helped. Anyway, those are some of
my thoughts....<br><br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:51:19 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: daglob
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:51:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U53BV5.00097K1ME.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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I've been having to search the "clubs" to find it; it's been deleted from my list.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:03:50 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: kirkm5computer
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:03:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U53BV5.00097K1ME.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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we hear you. I just hope that with the groups we all don't get erased


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:35:22 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:35:22 -0800
Subject: Re: Capt. Canuck Stamps , Etc.
In-Reply-To: <000U50LJ8.0019BK2B1.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U5DNAQ.000TD4SVD.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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&lt;&lt;&lt;(2) I assume that fan-club stamps are
what being talked about , but , I recall reading that
the Canad. government , a few annums back , had put
out some real Canadian stamps - commemeratives - of "
Great Canadian SHs " , spotlighting CC , several of the
40s ones...and , a certain Big Blue !!!!!!! ( You do
konw of Joe - not Wayne , RIP... -'s citizenship
background , right ????????? )&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br><br>Those
stamps, yes, were commemorative of the Canadian Whites of
the 1940s as well as Superman. Joe Shuster grew up in
Toronto (and I think he was born there, too) and in fact
was a first cousin to Frank Shuster, the famous son
of Canada from the comedy team of Wayne &
Shuster.<br><br><br>&lt;&lt;&lt;(4) Incidentally , WAS Michael T. Gilbert's " MR
MONSTER " really a remaking of an obscure Forties
Canada-only character , or was that a joke
?????????&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br><br>That was true. Doc Stearne was an obscure Canadian
comic-book character from the Canadian Whites of the 40s who
was loosely based on Doc Savage. In the penultimate
issue he appeared in, the creative team finally put Doc
Stearne into a costume and called him Mr. Monster, but
with little explanation of why he needed the costume.
His final appearance involved fighting a monster in
Scotland (not Canada as portrayed in the Mr. Monster
origin story written by Gilbert). But yes, Gilbert's Mr.
Monster was indeed a reworking of a Canadian
character.<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:36:48 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:36:48 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U53BV5.00097K1ME.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U5DNDG.0004T5JLG.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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I haven't had any problems recently myself, but
in the past I've noticed that some clubs seem to be
"deleted" but are back not long afterwards. I tend to think
of it as a Yahoo "hiccup" and shake my
head...<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:24:54 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:24:54 -0800
Subject: doc stearn/mr monster, canada or scotlan
Message-ID: <000U5E18M.00080KTUU.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Here is fuel to the fire. I read with amusement
about Doc Stearn. Nova Scotia, the Canadian province I
live in, means, literally..."New Scotland". And yes,
Canada Post did indeed put stamps out of Superman,
Captain Canuck, and many other characters, including
Fleur De Lis and some characters from "The Canadian
Whites" of the 1940's. Yes, these were real postage
stamps. And yep, Shuster, of Superman, was related to the
Shuster of Wayne and Shuster Canadian comedy team. Wayne
and Shuster are both deceased, one of those just last
week, unfortunately.<br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:48:47 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: kirkm5computer
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:48:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U5DNDG.0004T5JLG.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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This service is free and I am thinking it would be just like a mega company to delete all our clubs and say "unfortunately as a cost saving mearsure we had to eliminate the clubs"


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:19:00 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:19:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U5H1IV.000R9ENBP.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U5IV44.0017IQLTQ.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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I recently heard on the news this week that Yahoo
has been losing money. The idea was that they would
make a lot of money through advertising while
providing "free" services. Unfortunately for them (and
possibly for us) it has not worked out that way in the
last year as websurfers become more "internet savvy"
and do their shopping wherever they want to or use
whichever home-page they want to rather than stick with the
one given them by the company.<br><br>I hope this
doesn't mean that Yahoo decides to eliminate its free
services like these Clubs and Groups and/or switch to
fee-only Clubs/Groups and GeoCities homepages. But it
could happen...<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:36:25 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:36:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U5IV44.0017IQLTQ.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U5JHN9.001PKP0T4.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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My recent experiences with the Group format shows
pretty quickly what Yahoo hopes to accomplish by making
us all participate in that manner. Advertising
actually interrupts the flow of messages requiring
additional clicks of the mouse to follow threads. These
forced hits are apparently the price we will pay for the
"free" use of the service.<br><br>Sadly I found the
process rather labor intensive and I fear that when the
change comes (is it ever going to happen I wonder?) I
will be hanging out at only a couple of places with
any regularity at all.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:35:07 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:35:07 -0800
Subject: Re: Are We Still Here?
In-Reply-To: <000U5JHN9.001PKP0T4.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000U5MNJB.000OQU3NB.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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I find this irritating as well. Another option,
though, is that all messages at the Group can be received
via e-mail instead of having to actually go there.
Unfortunately, the advertising follows each and every message
you receive.<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:38:30 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:38:30 -0800
Subject: captain canuck in comic cellar#2
Message-ID: <000U5MNPM.000NS6OCS.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
X-Yahoo-Message-Number: 1573
X-Yahoo-Alias: chromium_foil
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Today one of my foreign back issue dealers found
for me something I have been looking for, for several
years: the fanzine/magazine The Comic Cellar#2. I saw
the cover of it advertised in an issue of Richard
Comely's Star Rider and the Peace Machine series. This was
a b & w comic series (mag-sized) that came out in
1983. (After the original Captain Canuck series had run
its course. Anyway, Comic Cellar#2, a fanzine, had a
Captain Canuck cover, and cover type proclaimed an expose
as to what happened to Richard Comely at CKR
Productions; when Comely Comix went out of business, a few
years later one Ken Ryan negotiated with Comely to
continue the Captain Canuck run under the group name CKR
Productions. Of course, CKR stood for Comely Ken Ryan. Later,
apparently Richard Comely was let go/fired by CKR. This
sordid tale was related at length, apparently, in the
fanzine The Comic Cellar#2, sporting a Captain Canuck
cover. I ordered the zine today. When it arrives, I will
relate that story here, unless someone beats me to the
punch. So to speak.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:04:59 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: romeandshelly
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:04:59 -0800
Subject: Re: captain canuck in comic cellar#2
In-Reply-To: <000U5MNPM.000NS6OCS.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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I, for one, am looking forward to the info.  Do you have a way to scan some images and send them my way?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 07 Feb 2002 00:27:11 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: doctorquantum
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 00:27:11 -0800
Subject: Save those photos!
Message-ID: <000U64EIV.000A48QTN.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
X-Yahoo-Message-Number: 1575
X-Yahoo-Alias: doctorquantum
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Apparently some of the clubs that have been
converted into Groups (all the ones beginning with "a1" are
already converted, and they're going through them
alphabetically -- we'll be soon) may not have had their photos
saved along with them. Save 'em now if you
can!<br><br>Doc


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Fri, 08 Feb 2002 01:01:46 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: lostonwallace
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 01:01:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Save those photos!
In-Reply-To: <000U64EIV.000A48QTN.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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For anyone wishing to save a copy of the Charlton
Bullseye club picture I did, here's two links for
you:<br>Black & white
version:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charlton.jpg</a><br><br>Color
version:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charltons.jpg target=new>http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/charltons.jpg</a><br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:59:23 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: chromium_foil
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:59:23 -0800
Subject: charlton site still viable
Message-ID: <000U6J0HB.000S1OVBR.1600018522-charltonbullseye@clubs.yahoo.com>
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Well, I see I am still able to hack my way into the charlton bullseye site. But, all graphics appear to be gone. Likewise the Atlas site.<br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:42:37 -0800
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
From: sonofvulcan
Delivered-to: charltonbullseye
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:42:37 -0800
Subject: Re: charlton site still viable
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I'm still showing the Bullseye as non-converted.
It comes up normally. The Atlas Seaboard Comics
Society has indeed been converted to groups with the loss
of photos at this point. <br><br>Now I'm really
confused.<br><br>Dean


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From: doctorquantum
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:33:02 -0800
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The "Comics Cavalcade" has already been
converted, even though it's alphabetically after this
club... which makes me wonder how Yahoo does their
converting process. Do they start with the newer clubs and
go to the older ones later, or what?<br><br>Doc


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Dean---Amen brother. I'm confused too. Join the
club. Oh sorry. That's a pun. Now we're not only
confused but I am in bad taste as well. Doc---yeah, about
that, I first figured that they would convert the clubs
alphabetically and would work their way down to zed (in Canada
it is zed not zee so there...but I digress...but now
it seems there's no rhyme nor reason to it....Say!
Maybe God Almighty is up there throwing dice...Yeah!
That's the ticket!<br>Phil


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My "DC Elseworlds" club has been converted today, but this club is still a club. I wonder how they're doing it, anyways?<br><br>Doc


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I've noticed that this club has really slowed down lately. Has everyone abandoned this club for the "Charlton-list" eGroup or is there some other reason?<br><br>Doc


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I'm still here man!  Sorry I haven't posted in a while.  I have been pretty busy.  Although I am busy, I am always in the mood to talk Charlton.  Forgive my absence.


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Still here, and despite what Yahoo says, I still
check in everyday here. The Charlton chatter has been
rather slow of late. <br><br>To be honest I have to
question our purpose with the eventual transfer to groups.
The Charlton-1 Group does have the distinct advantage
of a host of pros who can give real specific
insights into the workings of the company. We had some
real enthusiasm and still have a strong collection of
links and some great scans. The scans may disappear
when we convert. <br><br>Should the Bullseye combine
with Charlton-1? I ask this only in the spirit of
effective and fun communication about our favorite comics.
That place too slows from time to time, but perhaps by
combining them we could keep a steady discourse alive.
<br><br>The links section over there needs serious attention.
Likewise the Photos are an area that Doc in particular
could do some good work in.<br><br>Should we combine?
<br><br>Dean


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... was Hercules and Atomic Mouse. AM appears to
be random adventures, but could whole books, while
Herc seems to be #1, #2, and #4. I wondered when I
started the book what was going on; Herc didn't look
right. Then in a text feature it was explained that
Glanzman re-designed the character after #3. Issue #4 has
the Herc I remember.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:22:29 -0800
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From: lostonwallace
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This is hardly on topic, but I thought I'd let
everyone here know that my official site is finally up!
Please visit:<br><a href=http://www.lostonwallace.com target=new>http://www.lostonwallace.com</a><br>I hope
to put up some more Charlton character art in the
near future.<br><br>Thanks for the
indulgence,<br><br>Loston


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:16:11 -0800
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From: waltsland_1999
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...that , tho a " pro "-oriented group can be
just fine , a " fan " group can be good , too ! Also ,
when I have time 2 reference it , I's a-gowwana post
about a recent Fred Hembeck CBG caryoon that mentioned
" our " company...and Pat Boyette , too !!!!!!!!!
Hoo boy . That is , if anyone's interested
?...........


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I think I remember reading that John Buscema did some work for Charlton? Can anybody confirm this? Must have been in the 60's?


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 23 Feb 2002 06:58:45 -0800
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Big John drew the adventures of Nature Boy. I
think this comic was produced in the 50' before Buscema
committed himself to advertising artwork. I have seen th
cover to at least one issue and it is beautiful
Buscema.<br><br>Dean


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 23 Feb 2002 10:18:52 -0800
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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 10:18:52 -0800
Subject: CAPTAIN CANUCK UPDATE!
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Yesterday I received in the mail an odd
assortment/portpourri of titles I had ordered through one of my many
mail-order dealers: MF ENTERPRISES Captain Marvel title #4,
and Captain Marvel Presents The Terrible Five#1,
thereby completing the 6 issue run of that character (2
titles) Also a very fine Space Adventures #35,1960 (3rd
Captain Atom), the scarce black and white Captain Canuck
#3 Semple issue (signed on the cover by Richard
Comely), and finally Comic Cellar#2 from 1982. The b and w
Semple Captain Canuck #3 is actually reprints the 1996
syndicated newspaper Cap Canuck comic strip---it is of the
2nd character to wear that costume, not Tom Evans. As
such it is not that interesting, at least to me.
Still, I am glad I did locate it, since it was only $10.
U.S. However, the most interesting item in the package
was Comic Cellar#2, with a nice color Comely Captain
Canuck cover. Comely is interviewed, as is George
Freeman,Ken Ryan of CKR, J C Aubin, and also Cancuk's
creator. Some both published and unpublished comic strip
series (various) by Freeman, J C Aubin,etc are
reprinted. Interesting stuff! Also (and a sheer delight!)
are many, many pages of George Freeman-drawn Captain
Canuck newspaper comic strips which apparently saw print
in newspapers several years ago. And these are
great!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br>On Comely's firing from CKR. Freeman had
replaced Comely on the art chores on the Canuck book
around #6 or #7, and Comely was merely writing it
thereafter. According to Ken Ryan, Comely began interfering
in the business end of the company continually,
and---perhaps feeling he wasn't getting enough credit in the
book (just writer---and frankly, Comely did NOT create
the character)---he began signing his credit "Editor
in Chief!" Which he was not!!! His continual
interference with the business end of things, and continually
heated conversations with staff resulted, unfortunately,
with his termination. (I remain a Comely fan, but of
the Tom Evans Cap, not of Comely's later
version.)<br>Even George Freeman's interview reads that Comely's
termination was necessary. Anyway, Comic Cellar#2 is a great
magazine! I have been reading it for hours; it is
fascinating! I urge any Cap Canuck fans to procure a copy.
Also, it shows unpublished Captain Canuck #15 cover by
Freeman, and an unpublished cover of the Summer Special #1
also by Freeman, and lots more unpublished art. It
turns out that the 30,000 copies of Canuck#2 destroyed
were NOT the result of the truck fire. More on that
later.<br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:45:34 -0800
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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:45:34 -0800
Subject: STILL MORE ON CAPITAN CANUCK!
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Originally, as a kid, a fellow by the name of Ron
Leishman created Captain Canuck.Only then, he called the
character Captain Canada. He showed these youthful drawings
to his friend Richard Comely. Comely became very
enthusiastic about the character, and later procured financing
to publish the character with Leishman's blessing.
Only, Comely saw a very poorly done sweat shirt in a
store of a character called Captain Canada, with a
cape. Deciding that name had been used, he changed the
name to Captain Canuck. Canuck is still for Canadian
the way Yankee is slang for American.Comely did not
know at the time that in World War Two, Canadian black
and white comics had a character called Johnny
Canuck. When Comely Comics went out of business around
1976 or 1977, (due to distribution problems but also
because printing is MUCH more expensive in
Canada...Comely said if he had it to do again he would have had
them printed in the U.S....)... A few years later, he
decided to try again. One company he approached for
funding said they would publish new Captain Canuck issues
only if they would OWN the character!! They would keep
Comely on as artist. Understandably, he declined. A
friend suggested Comely raise the funding himself. He
eventually,however, contacted Ken Ryan. The arrangement was CKR would
put up the funding; CKR would own 60% , Comely would
own 40%. There were distribution problems again, and
again they were printed in Canada. Expensive! CKR sold
tonnes of copies were apparently were not receiving
proper revenue back! The company, financially, was in
trouble! The aforementioned Comely/Ryan problems meant
Comely was let go. But remember, Comely owned
40%---which is not a controlling interest! CKR wanted Comely
to surrender the 40% he owed for nothing! Obviously,
he said no! So Comely's partners did a scummy
thing---they consulted a lawyer, and "sold the company back to
themselves!"---cutting Comely out of the picture entirely!!! Comely
demanded his name at least be taken off any loans owed.
Remember,the company financially was in big trouble. They
agreed, and he was off the hook! How he was able, then,
to publish the later Semple series legally---is
anyone's guess! Presumably Ken Ryan financially was in no
position to challenge him. Ron Leishman, a Jesuit
Missionary as an adult, never had any interest in the
publishing of Cap Canuck.He is interviewed in Comic Cellar#2
as well. Reprinted in Cellar#2 are lots of comic
strips he has had published which are pretty funny,
non-Canuck. He remains on good terms with Comely. As I said,
he never had any interest in Canuck as a publishing
concept. He did write a story or two, in the original
series, #1, or #2, but that is it. So there is (much of)
the story behind the story. Hope you all found it
interesting. But there is much, much more in Comic Cellar#2.
If you can find a copy, buy it!


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:58:48 -0800
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From: romeandshelly
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:58:48 -0800
Subject: Re: STILL MORE ON CAPITAN CANUCK!
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Wow, I sure wish I had copies of those books! Is
there anyway you could scan some images for me? I will
include them on my site, acknowledging you of course.
BTW, I just updated my Captain Canuck site at
<a href=http://captaincanuck.homestead.com/title.html target=new>http://captaincanuck.homestead.com/title.html</a><br>Later,<br>Rome


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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:24:48 -0800
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Rome/shelley: regarding Captain canuck. Sorry,
but unfortunately, as I have explained earlier, I
only have access to a computer at work, not at home.
And, there is no scanner. Otherwise, I would be
delighted to help you out. Sorry. By the way, since we are
both Captain Canuck fans, how do I refer to you? Is it
Shelley, or Rome? Are you a girl or a guy? Not that it is
relevant. It's just that your handle is a little long. What
changes did you make to your website, so I can look at
that aspect of it? Very intersted to know, being a big
fan of that character. If you send me an SASE I would
be happy to photocopy those issues for you. Of
course you would need to enclose enough postage. The
Semple Cap Canuck is a normal sized comic, but Comic
Cellar#2 is a thick magazine-about the size of Comics
Journal. Most of the issue is about Captain
Canuck.<br>Phil


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:35:05 -0800
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From: romeandshelly
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:35:05 -0800
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That's right, sorry I forgot that you don't have
a computer at home. You can call me Rome, I am a
guy, Shelly is my wife. I haven't made too many
changes to the site, other than some new images and
artwork in the galleries. How much postage would you need
to send me the photocopies of the C.C.
articles?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Rome


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:12:50 -0800
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From: kirkm5computer
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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:12:50 -0800
Subject: Are there any Captain Canuck Paperbacks?
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Were there any comic paperbacks that compiled all
the stories. How many issues were there? The memories
I had were a book with fancy computer graphics and
bright colors and to me it was something before its
time. I was really impressed with the art style and
wish it took off here. Because the issues were so far
and few here were I use to purchase them.


From yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:47:03 -0800
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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:47:03 -0800
Subject: canuck answers for rome
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Rome-no, captain canuck has never, ever come out
in a collected edition that reprinted any issues.As
for the numbers, first series (secret identity Tom
Evans)had 14 issues, and one "Summer Special", which was
actually an Annual. Second series (secret identity Darren
Oaks or Oakes-different guy under the mask and ---in
my opinion the second series was extremely
uninteresting, even boring....) ...the first issue published was
0 (zero), followed by #1, #2, and #3. #3 had only
8,000 copies printed, almost exclusively newsstand only
(not direct sales), thus hard to find. I only got a
copy by sheer luck, having made an enquiry of one of
my mail order dealers upon finding out it existed.
(I previously didn't know it existed, and one series
one is in the price guide!<br>Hope this info
helps!<br>Regards,<br>Phil


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From: chromium_foil
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:48:47 -0800
Subject: canuck answers for rome-more
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See below for a new addendum!!! Rome-no, captain
canuck has never, ever come out in a collected edition
that reprinted any issues.As for the numbers, first
series (secret identity Tom Evans)had 14 issues, and one
"Summer Special", which was actually an Annual. Second
series (secret identity Darren Oaks or Oakes-different
guy under the mask and ---in my opinion the second
series was extremely uninteresting, even boring....)
...the first issue published was 0 (zero), followed by
#1, #2, and #3. #3 had only 8,000 copies printed,
almost exclusively newsstand only (not direct sales),
thus hard to find. I only got a copy by sheer luck,
having made an enquiry of one of my mail order dealers
upon finding out it existed. (I previously didn't know
it existed, and only series one is in the price
guide!(That's what I was trying to say the first time I sent
this post, and I had flubbed it.<br>Hope this info
helps!<br>Regards,<br>Phil


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Yes it does exist!!! (Sort of!) For Captain
Canuck fans of the first series....I just learned today
from one of my mail order dealers that he DID (as in,
past tense) previously have a supply of #15. See,
George Freeman originally draw #15 but it was not with
Richard Comely after CKR suspended operation, to sort-of
publish #15 in limited numbers. But they were only
photocopies of the original cover and art for #15, stapled
together and sold only through this dealer. But he is long
sold out. So the next question would be, are these
(photocopies) collectible? That would be a matter of opinion. I
would say yes. At least to me in terms of their story
and (Canadian) historical interest. Plus they are
incredibly rare. Besides, DC's CANCELLED COMICS CAVALCADE (2
issues, hundreds of pages each) are just photocopies,
there were only 35 copies made of #1 and #2
(photocopies), yet when they turn up on the auction block, they
go for thousands of dollars. Therefore,
collectibility,(like beauty), is often in the eyes, or pocketbook, of
the beholder. But beware, so-called "collectibles",
especially CANCELLED COMICS CAVALCADE, ARE FREQUENTLY
COUNTERFEITED, bootleg copies. Get it? Can't you just hear a
hypothetical arguement? "Hey, I bought this expensive
photocopy from you in good faith, and it turns out it is a
counterfeit photocopy of a photocopy!!! I'll sue you!" BWAH
HAHA HAH HAH!<br>pHIL


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Something I found on eBay. Obviously a reprint, but from when? 35cents and a barcode?<br><br><a href=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1078747421 target=new>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1078747421</a><br><br>Bill


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Oops!<br><br>It says 1978 in the write-up. Still, I never saw this.<br><br>Bill


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I have a couple of these I think. Back in the
late 70's and early 80's Charlton was reprinting a
number of of their backstock in the few series that
survived at that time. Dr.Graves was completely reprint at
the time,as was Billy the Kid. Lots of titles were
begun for a few issues and this is the first of a few
consecutive issues reprinting some of the vintage Cap
stories.<br><br>They are excellent and cheap (at least they should be)
ways of getting a peak at these classic Ditko stories.
I don't think there was much of an attempt to
reprint whole books. Somewhere I've seen a listing of
what is in these, but I'm not immediately sure
where.<br><br>Dean


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Hi folks. I thought it pertinent to mention that
this group now has two members with first name Phil. I
am the Canuck (Canadian) Phil. So, if the heading is
not CHROMIUMFOIL, it is not I. Just to clarify is
all. Secondly, since someone else brought up the
matter of waltsland, I would like to comment. While I
have nothing whatsoever against this gent, I do
confess, Mr. Waltsland, that I rarely (speaking for
myself) read your comments. And the reason is that, sir,
your use of English (or "style", if you will) I cannot
make heads nor tails of. In other words, I don't know
what the heck you are trying to say.(?????) No offense
intended, of course. I assume that English is NOT your
primary language. I am guessing that I may (?) be far
from the only one who has given up trying to decipher
your messages. Frankly, I cannot make heads nor tails
of them. <br>Respectfully,<br>Phil (Chromiumfoil)


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Man would I love to have that photocopy of a photocopy.<br>Rome


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Rome-you and me both, brother! BUT---would you
pay big money for this "photocopy of a photocopy"???
What makes me laugh is arguements at conventions such
as I mentioned.... You know, "I paid you a thousand
dollars for an ORIGINAL photocopy of CANCELLED COMICS
CAVALCADE and it turns out it is a photocopy of a photocopy
(bootleg)copy! You ripped me off!!!"---have actually taken
place! The sheer lunacy of the idea that CANCELLED
COMICS CAVALCADE "ORIGINALS" ...are actually
photocopies!!! And that people (who incidentally were stupid
enough to pay thousands for these things...are upset
when they have a SECOND GENERATION photocopy!!
Basically, because the "originals" are PHOTOCOPIES...there
ARE no originals to begin with!! The mind
boggles...The whole arguement is lunacy. Still...I'd love to
have that Cap Canuck#15...photocopy...but I wouldn't
take out a loan to procure it...<br>Regards,<br>Phil


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...Well , to be literal here , it IS the "
original , 1978 object " being offered , in what you're
talking about , and , a 2000 P-C that isn't the 1978
object , but is being sold as the <br>1978 object , IS a
fraud...


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I'm with you Phil, I wouldn't shell out big bucks
for a photo-copy. The arguement you mentioned is
unbelievable to me. Still, if you find a photocopy of Captain
Canuck 15, I will send you the money to buy a bootleg of
it.<br><br>Rome


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so...if someone buys a photocopy or a photocopy,
has he been "duped"?<br>By the way, I've known a
couple fan self publishers who number their photocopies
as if they were art prints--you know, "this is
number 15 of 352", that sort of thing. It's
harmless...but useless! The idea on art prints is that the image
decays with each printing, so earlier prints are worth
more money. Later prints, made from plates which start
to wear out after some use, are worth less. But a
photocopy is pretty much the same, whether it's number 1 or
number 100.

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And it looks like all our Photos are intact!

Doc


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--- In charltonbullseye@y..., doctorquantum <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> And it looks like all our Photos are intact!
> 
> Doc

Great!
Rome


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The club looks great now I hear rumor that they want us to pay for 
this very soon.


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I'm glad to see the transition to groups has finally taken hold. I 
was getting a bit weary of waiting for the inevitable. I'm also glad 
to see the club pic looking so very beautiful. I daresay we have the 
most handsome club (er excuse me)...group picture of any out there in 
the Yahoo wildnerness. Thanks again Loston!

Hopefully this move will energize the group to more activity. See 
everyone around!

Dean


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Given the huge amount of advertising we are forced to deal with at 
this point, I find that rumour unlikely. It makes little sense to 
force folks to at once pay for a service and then foist ads on them 
simultaneously. But then with the model of cable and satellite 
televsion out there, someone probably thinks it might work. Speaking 
for myself, there is NO way I will pay for this service. At that 
point it will likely become more interesting to simply create a 
separate website. 

Dean

--- In charltonbullseye@y..., kirkm5computer <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> The club looks great now I hear rumor that they want us to pay for 
> this very soon.


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 I agree, I think this group thing is a good thing.
Rome
  sonofvulcan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I'm glad to see the transition to groups has finally taken hold. I 
was getting a bit weary of waiting for the inevitable. I'm also glad 
to see the club pic looking so very beautiful. I daresay we have the 
most handsome club (er excuse me)...group picture of any out there in 
the Yahoo wildnerness. Thanks again Loston!

Hopefully this move will energize the group to more activity. See 
everyone around!

Dean


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--- In charltonbullseye@y..., chasmithalpha wrote:
> so...if someone buys a photocopy or a photocopy,
> has he been "duped"?<br>By the way, I've known a
> couple fan self publishers who number their photocopies
> as if they were art prints--you know, "this is
> number 15 of 352", that sort of thing. It's
> harmless...but useless! The idea on art prints is that the image
> decays with each printing, so earlier prints are worth
> more money. Later prints, made from plates which start
> to wear out after some use, are worth less. But a
> photocopy is pretty much the same, whether it's number 1 or
> number 100.






...Wasn't . also . the original , 1978 , CCC actually MADE from the 
original art...Or , at least , first-gen repros of the originals 
?????????


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Hey Phil---an idea: what about your uploading some Charlton covers 
from the old charlton heroes comics, and even dc comics that have 
some of those characters? I was just thinking that you did such a 
great job of it at the Atlas site....what say?
"The other Phil"


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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/artofjackkirby/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jackkirbyscosmiccovers/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/legacyofjackkirby/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thejackkirbycosmiccoverarchive/


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aaawww--Shucks, Dean!  I still have it in my mind to do the 
Charlton piece that we all voted for so long ago!  I have not 
forgotten, and I promise, that it will be something to behold!

As far as the "groups" format goes, I like it except for the ads that 
you are forced to see (unless you get the club posts via email).  
That's the only complaint I have about the groups.  

Loston
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Check it out!


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Hi folks. Since nobody has been posting here much of late, I will add 
something that hopefully will stimulate some conversation. Today I 
bought-at a great price $25. Canadian , a 1922 BRINGING UP FATHER #6, 
which is now my OLDEST comic book by far in the entire collection, 
and my very first Bronze age comic book ever. It IS in the price 
guide. I am wondering- does any other members of this club have any 
Bronze age comics? If so ,I would be interested in learning which 
ones.
Phil


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  chromium_foil <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi folks. Since nobody has been posting here much of late, I will add 
something that hopefully will stimulate some conversation. Today I 
bought-at a great price $25. Canadian , a 1922 BRINGING UP FATHER #6, 
which is now my OLDEST comic book by far in the entire collection, 
and my very first Bronze age comic book ever. It IS in the price 
guide. I am wondering- does any other members of this club have any 
Bronze age comics? If so ,I would be interested in learning which 
ones.
Phil


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., Rome and Shelly Maynard 
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>  
>   chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote: Hi folks. Since nobody has 
been posting here much of late, I will add 
> something that hopefully will stimulate some conversation. Today I 
> bought-at a great price $25. Canadian , a 1922 BRINGING UP FATHER 
#6, 
> which is now my OLDEST comic book by far in the entire collection, 
> and my very first Bronze age comic book ever. It IS in the price 
> guide. I am wondering- does any other members of this club have any 
> Bronze age comics? If so ,I would be interested in learning which 
> ones.
> Phil




Wow I remember that comic as a kid in the Sunday paper...it wasn't 
from my generation but I couldn't really get into it as a kid.  I 
remeber with the Star Wars Movie back in 1977 there was a Star Wars 
Strip by Russ Heath ..that was good and I read it every day till it 
fizzled out ...he may have drawn the Star Trek strip right after the 
1979 movie and that too fizzled out ..they were never given a proper 
chance to develop because I would still read them today.
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Hmm. I take it nobody wants to talk about bronze age EG: late 1990's 
to say, mid 1930's comics? (From my last post.....)
Okay. What do we want to talk about?
Phil


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hmm. I take it nobody wants to talk about bronze age EG: late 
1990's 
> to say, mid 1930's comics? (From my last post.....)
> Okay. What do we want to talk about?
> Phil

How about Ditko's post Marvel Blue Bettle stories..I am sure they are 
in public domain by now. You could post the short stories and club 
members could download them...then you could delete the photos..like 
trading a comic..


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Hey there, Phil! It's hard to talk about those books because they are 
so rare. I used to have one of Mutt and Jeff many years ago; as I 
recall, it was soert of a squareish format, about 6 by 8 inches, with 
a cardboard cover and reprinted one strip on a page. This was in the 
1960s so I don't remember it clearly...I gave it away when I had to 
move and had to get rid of nearly everything except my most valued 
possessions, so I'm going by my memory here.
   Aside from the rarity, I think most fans aren't familiar with those 
comics because they reprinted newspaper strips hardly anyone under 
thirty has heard of, and they didn't have super hero material (of 
course! They pre-dated superman). Now, me, I love that newspaper strip 
stuff, and I wish there was more interest in the strips, but as a 
smaller and smaller percentage of fans even know anything about them, 
it's hard to talk about strips these days.
   Just to let you know, some of those comics like you have, but 
featuring Little Orphan Annie are being reprinted even now. I saw one 
at a comics shop just two days ago in my area, printed sometime in the 
last six months. Alas, at 10 bucks, I decided I can't get everything 
so I passed it up, but I LOVE those strips (not just Annie, I mean, 
but the humor strips, the sf strips, etc. My fave i


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Just an additional thought: Doesn't "The Bronze Age" refer to comic 
books from 1970 (or there abouts) to the present? What you are 
referring to would probably be called "The Stone Age" or (my choice) 
"The Protozoic Age"! (The terms are taken from Greek mythology who 
believed in The Ages of Man--the Golden Age was when everyone was a 
god and happy, then came the Silver Age when people were happy but had 
to work the land and toil, etc., and then the Bronze Age when everyone 
had to fight, starve, die early and so on. The Greeks didn't have much 
before the Golden Age except primordial chaos...but we have pre-comic 
book comics like you have! Congratulations on your acquisition, by the 
way. You have something most fans have never 


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Chas---you are correct. The error was mine. Rare old comics like 
BRINGING UP FATHER are from what the Comic Book Price Guide calls THE 
PLATINUM AGE. The bronze age is 1970's, I feel pretty sure.
Phil


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Chas---you are correct. The error was mine. Rare old comics like 
> BRINGING UP FATHER are from what the Comic Book Price Guide calls 
THE 
> PLATINUM AGE. The bronze age is 1970's, I feel pretty sure.
> Phil






...Other people have used th' term " The Cardboard Age " ( after th' -
 cardboard ! - not quite " proper " book covers , but more than 
magazine/PB covers - that they , or so I'm told , tended to have , )
for pre-" ACTION #1 " comic books , which I like , but " Latinum 
Age " seems to have stuck .
  Let's re-start an old argument - When would you see the Silver Age 
ending and the Bronze Age beginning - Aaaaanndd, when did the Bronze 
age run to , roughly ( Followed by - Ah , shucks , I'm not gonna 
attempt that one now - the Modern/Comics Shop age - Perhaps we're in 
still another , " an ungainly beast , just woken " age , by now , 
too , but...) ? 
  I'd go with , the revision /lightening of the Code ( 
Inspired/finally motivated by the " Harry freaks out " SPIDEY 
Codeless issues . ) , in early 1971 , as the Silver over to Bronze 
marker - This , AFTER , a 1969-70 full of changes to the 60s status 
quo -in comics ( I'll explain how , and why - and even involve 
Charlton into it !!!!!!! Really . ) - later . Unm hnm .  
  Aaaaand , for rh' end of th' Bronze...I was out of comics , 
really , then , by the early Eighties in which I'd place it...What 
say youse/y'all ??????? I dunno , DC starting their " comics shops 
only " Mando paper line ? ( Mirage's original one . ) TEENAGE MUTANT 
NINJAS becoming such a big one ? Lame examples , but , better'n " 
' DAZZLER ' #1 being a comics-shop exclusive !!!!!!! " . I guess .


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I don't think there was any sense of end to "Da Bronze Age". I 
suppose for me personally it might be the "CRisis on Infinite Earths" 
stuff and the big Marvel change-over/revamping that pretty much 
killed the last of the "classic" heroes by revising everything. That 
was pretty much the biggest change in the super hero comics, sort of 
a substantial throwing over of the old order. It's harder yet to say 
when the Silver Age can be thought of as having ended. The early 70s, 
certainly, when so many new people came in that super hero comics 
pretty much went into a spiritual change. You know--the expected 
super hero values were displaced by the new kids who thought 
that "truth, justice, and the American Way" were too over-rated and 
old fashioned.
   What's more interesting is that there was really a nearly seemless 
segue (did I spell that right? And me without a Funkin' Wagnells!) 
from the Golden Age to the Silver Age. There were superheroes like 
Plastic Man, The Human Torch, Captain America, and others up until 
1954-56 (not to mention Superman, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman 
etc all through the period), and the Silver Age Flash appeared 
in '56; so there was NOT a real distinction between the Golden/Silver 
Ages. The seeming change was more, I think, a Roy Thomas and other 
early comics fan affectation who noticed that there was sort of a 
difference between the "classic" super hero years and the comics they 
were reading in c. 1960, and they arbitrarily put the dividing line 
at 1956. Personally, I sort of mentally divide the Golden Age into 
two periods---1938-43 and 1943-56. The division here was the 
disappearance of so many super heroes, (especially in the MLJ line as 
Archie took over)so I think there is a big difference between, say, 
1942 and 1946, in the content and style of the comics.
   Hey--isn't it fun to spend so much time talking about such fluff???


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I have always loved this tendency of comics fans to organize the 
history of comics into these admittedly arbitrary frames. The 
Platinum Age is everything until Action #1. The Golden Age lasts at 
least through WWII (big debate here). The Atomic Age lasts until the 
advent of the new Flash in Showcase #4. The Silver Age lasts a very, 
very long time and ends at lots of arguable points. I think 1968 is a 
good one, at about the time Marvel split off all of its titles like 
Tales of Suspense and Strange Tales into individual character titled 
books. I also see some logic to extending it to mid-70's and the 
advent of the New X-Men. I've heard arguments for extending it to the 
mid-80's and the finale of The Crisis on Infinite Earths, but this 
one while appealing for neatness gives us a very large whopping 
timeframe and all but eliminates the Bronze Age with for me is the 
70's until the Crisis (maybe).

After that who knows. What would be a good name for the 80's? 90's? 

Dean


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I'd be in favor of the '90s being called the trash age of comics, he said 
tongue in cheek.


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--- CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>    Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:24:00 EST
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> Subject: Eras of the Comics
> 
> I'd be in favor of the '90s being called the trash
> age of comics, he said 
> tongue in cheek.

I've always liked the '90s being termed as the
"tinfoil era" of comics ever since I heard the term...
It seems to fit.

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Trash!? Come on be nice...but then I see your point. I'm with Doc 
though the logic and elegance of "Tinfoil Age" does speak well for 
the hyped and cover-enhanced time.

I happened to be flipping through some old boxes of comics with my 
90's material and I was frankly surprised at the sorry quality of a 
lot of it. I don't remember it being quite that bad. That may speak 
well for the current comics for the most part. The Image look which 
dominated nearly all superhero comics during the decade began as 
nearly a parody of itself and quickly produced some truly strange 
work. Women in particular were given odd treatment and some of those 
outlandish costumes really look truly painful.

Dean


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I have chanced upon a few copies of this war comic in the last few 
weeks, and I've been surprised by the quality and intensity of the 
stories. Charlton in general did pretty good war comics, and when you 
compare them to things like Sgt.Fury and suchlike, they seem almost 
realistic. While this series does the usual romantic take on war, it 
does also offer a real insight into the mental and spiritual cost of 
combat. The Corporal seems to be a true protagonist and has some real 
complexity to his personality.

The stories I've seen were drawn by Nicholas Alascia and Sam 
Glanzman. If I remember Glanzman was the regular artist, but just how 
many others were involved? Anyone know?

Dean


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Actually, I was being rather harsh.  It's just that while I can remember 
stories from the '60s and '70s, and even some from the '80s, I can't remember 
that many that I liked from the '90s.  The material (with quite a few 
exceptions, I'll grant) is entertaining for the time you are reading it, but 
a month later you'd be hard put to remember it.


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I don't remember any other artists, but due to the poor distribution of 
Charlton, I didn't get that many of their war comics on a regular basis.  I 
would have noticed Glanzman's art if I'd seen the books.


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I have chanced upon a few copies of this war comic in the last 
few 
> weeks, and I've been surprised by the quality and intensity of 
the 
> stories. Charlton in general did pretty good war comics, and 
when you 
> compare them to things like Sgt.Fury and suchlike, they seem 
almost 
> realistic. While this series does the usual romantic take on 
war, it 
> does also offer a real insight into the mental and spiritual cost 
of 
> combat. The Corporal seems to be a true protagonist and has 
some real 
> complexity to his personality.
> 
> The stories I've seen were drawn by Nicholas Alascia and Sam 
> Glanzman. If I remember Glanzman was the regular artist, but 
just how 
> many others were involved? Anyone know?
> 
> Dean






...Was Iron Corporal ( A German , I believe ??? ) just " stiff as iron 
" , or , did he have an iron prosthetic ( whoo !!!!! ) hand ? Any 
fantasy elements ? I believe a new material? I. C. title was part of 
these " Last Gasp Years " of Charlton that I've written about my 
fascination with...since I " experienced " 'em . briefly . ( '85-'86 . All 
I remember seeing ( and buying !!!!! ) were Atomic Mouse 
reprints , and these Ditko-centered anthologies , Charlton Action 
w/Static , plus the talking ameobae (?) , etc. ) Wasn't , like DC's 
old war titles , I. C. " only " a lead-off feature in an anthology-titled 
war book , until then , likewise Willy Shultze , which , according to 
that Texas 'xine's checklist , also had a - presumably , reprint - 
'84-era title , as well ?


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No, the Iron Corporal was an Aussie serving with the U.S. military 
for some complicated reason. He wore one of thos Australian hats with 
the one side strap up, but aside from that he was fairly typical 
looking. 

The character you are describing sounds a bit like a Civil War 
character who I think showed up a few times at Charlton. I want to 
say his name was General Doom or something like that, but I'm likely 
off. He was one-armed or something and I think may have had a metal 
hand or something.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chasmithalpha <no_reply@y...> 
wrote:
> I don't think there was any sense of end to "Da Bronze Age". I 
> suppose for me personally it might be the "CRisis on Infinite 
Earths" 
> stuff and the big Marvel change-over/revamping that pretty 
much 
> killed the last of the "classic" heroes by revising everything. 
That 
> was pretty much the biggest change in the super hero comics, 
sort of 
> a substantial throwing over of the old order. It's harder yet to 
say 
> when the Silver Age can be thought of as having ended. The 
early 70s, 
> certainly, when so many new people came in that super hero 
comics 
> pretty much went into a spiritual change. You know--the 
expected 
> super hero values were displaced by the new kids who thought 
> that "truth, justice, and the American Way" were too over-rated 
and 
> old fashioned.
>    What's more interesting is that there was really a nearly 
seemless 
> segue (did I spell that right? And me without a Funkin' 
Wagnells!) 
> from the Golden Age to the Silver Age. There were 
superheroes like 
> Plastic Man, The Human Torch, Captain America, and others 
up until 
> 1954-56 (not to mention Superman, Batman, Martian 
Manhunter, Aquaman 
> etc all through the period), and the Silver Age Flash appeared 
> in '56; so there was NOT a real distinction between the 
Golden/Silver 
> Ages. The seeming change was more, I think, a Roy Thomas 
and other 
> early comics fan affectation who noticed that there was sort of 
a 
> difference between the "classic" super hero years and the 
comics they 
> were reading in c. 1960, and they arbitrarily put the dividing line 
> at 1956. Personally, I sort of mentally divide the Golden Age 
into 
> two periods---1938-43 and 1943-56. The division here was the 
> disappearance of so many super heroes, (especially in the 
MLJ line as 
> Archie took over)so I think there is a big difference between, 
say, 
> 1942 and 1946, in the content and style of the comics.
>    Hey--isn't it fun to spend so much time talking about such 
fluff???






...Yepper...'tis fun , indeed !!!!!!!
  It's interesting that you see MLJ's junking of their SHs as such a 
major sign/indicator...What Marvel chane..." , exactly , do you see 
? DC DID have , specifically , the Crisis , plus Byrne/Superman , 
which were both ANNOUNCED " Okay , we're starting all over..." 
thingies - did 
people say " rebooting " in 1985/6 , anyway ??????? -
I'll hold on my " Reasons For 1969/70 " for a while , but , one 
sub-factor I thought , related to it , and , here , my younger age 
may point something out here , is that , by then , AFTER the 
Batman/" camp " boom had been followed by the bust , likewise , 
the " lesser companies " sort of left SHs to DC and Marvel 
entirely . I didn't really realize how many , if sorta halfhearted , 
attempts at SHs that C./Archie-Radio/Harvey ( others ????? ) did 
, in the 1956-66 , roughly , period . Seems like , at least it does 2 
me , that , by the late 60s , they'd decided " Uh uh . We'll leave 
that to DC and Marvel . They're good at that . We'll do what we do 
best . " And , that was to continue that may , basically , all through 
th' 70s !!!!!!! ( Given that , as I've said , where I lived in the 70s , 
Gold Key was not distributed to the newsstands at all !!!!! - And , 
IIRC , what lil' " alternative " means of distribution that seeped 
through only brought in their cartoon titles , which I think I didn't 
spell out B4 - Perhaps I'm overlooking Western/GK/Whitman's " 
sorta " super-heroes . Even so . But , anyway ! )
  Y'know , actually , there IS , shock , more to comic books than 
super-heroes . Really !!!!!!! Of course , that's what " fandom " 
tends to concern itself with . Your thought about the terms we 
use being set by the terms that the " First Fandom " folks ( That 
accurate ? Y'know , th' peeps who were in " All In Color For A 
DIME " , say ??????? ) used is interesting .
  For " Age Rages " , I like the term " Cardboard Age " , actually , 
for the pre-" Action #1 " period ( Comes from the cardboard
 " not-quite-books/more-than-just-magazines " covers that most 
of the comics whatevers...anthologies , collections...issued in 
that era , especially pre - 1920 ? WWI ? had , I believe . ) , but , I 
realize the " Platinum Age "'s won .
  Charlton , say , even in the 1965-1977 ( Uhhh , Giordano getting 
an editor's position/the Action Heroes beginning @B set up , 
through their end , basically , as a , regularly issuing new 
material , company , ) period , really , the straight-out " 
super-heroes " , and the SHs-ish back-ups , 
like Wander , Mauser , ( basically always back-ups in the 
super-hero titles anyway !!!!! ) , made up , what ????? Less than 
5% of Charlton's output ??????? Really , just the Actons , then 
E-Man , nothing , really , else . Try to count things like the Fightin' 
Five , " sort of " super heroes-esque ( thogh not really taken as 
them )...Still , less than 10% ? Assigning every book with a value 
of " One " , not sales . Or printing runs . 
  Was 50% or more of '65-77 C. " not really noticed by most fans " 
 war/Western/romance ????? Perhaps 40% " some notice by 
fandom in general " horror/SF/cartoon/liscenced media product " 
( And , yes , 'course , the Phantom - and the other " serious " KFS 
characters , did C, have - even in back-ups - others than Flash , 
Mandrake , and the Ghost Who Walks ? - could be seen as " 
almost " super-heroes , even " real " ones , though myself , I'd 
put them in " media liscencees " for now . ) ? 
  I guess there were , just focusing on SHs , many " come and go 
" both major and minor , ( say ) '49-'56 SHs - ME's Avenger and 
Strongman ( Leaving to the side , for now , that fan " Well that's a 
costumed adventurer/masked detective , not REALLY a SH !!!!! " 
hairsplitting - the Catholic Church's got enough problems 
presently , I'll stay away from the " angels/Macerena/pin " 
metaphor !!!!!!! - !  ) , the " Commie Smasher " revivals of the Atlas 
Big Three - Perhaps Thomas/Bails's fondness 4 the All 
American-side heroes of DC , which , perhaps for their " 
immigrant " status , got discontinued - Perhaps even finding 
National/DC's Holy Trinity* sort of ( Big Blue , especially . ) sort of 
boring kind of influenced B-T's feelings , and , thus , their 
language , which , sort of , influenced what we say ????????? I'd 
agree , and disagree with you , in a sense .




  *-Hey !!!!! And I thought that I was gonna leave Rome ALONE 4 a 
while ?????????  
   


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I am wondering if anyone in our group---other than myself, I mean---
are or is fans of the MLJ heroes, either of the 1940's, the 1960's 
revivals (hokier but mildly amusing), or of the 1980's Red 
Circle/Archie Adventure Series revival-?? I myself rather like the 
1980's revival, and I am brave enough to state so! Any interest out 
there in discussing them? There was a lot of great talent in the 80's 
versions, both in art and writing. And hey-did you know there TWO 
SHIELD series by Red Circle? Only one is in the guide. ORIGINAL 
SHIELD ran 4 issues. The Lancelot Strong version was called THE 
SHIELD #1 and #2. The title changed for #3 to SHIELD STEEL STERLING. 
#4 THROUGH #7 the title was simply STEEL STERLING, and none of these 
are in the guide. The Lancelot Strong late 1950's version of the 
character died in #3.
Phil


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> 
wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone in our group---other than myself, I 
mean---
> are or is fans of the MLJ heroes, either of the 1940's, the 
1960's 
> revivals (hokier but mildly amusing), or of the 1980's Red 
> Circle/Archie Adventure Series revival-?? I myself rather like the 
> 1980's revival, and I am brave enough to state so! Any interest 
out 
> there in discussing them? There was a lot of great talent in the 
80's 
> versions, both in art and writing. And hey-did you know there 
TWO 
> SHIELD series by Red Circle? Only one is in the guide. 
ORIGINAL 
> SHIELD ran 4 issues. The Lancelot Strong version was called 
THE 
> SHIELD #1 and #2. The title changed for #3 to SHIELD STEEL 
STERLING. 
> #4 THROUGH #7 the title was simply STEEL STERLING, and 
none of these 
> are in the guide. The Lancelot Strong late 1950's version of the 
> character died in #3.






...You're not aware . I Supp-Hose(R) , of the Earth $ Starting Over 
fanfic group , which imagines the C. , and MLJ/Red. characters , 
sharing a post-Crisis Earth ??????? ( Now , THERE'S , a " funny 
book writing " sentence for ye...)
> Phil


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  I hain't used this name in a while here , so...






 ( roughly ) '69-'70 




        Management/Ownership Reasons


    Broome/Drake/Fox's axis's shitcanning from DC , after union 
fiasco , causes need 4 mucho new writers , etc. Giordano's 
arrival brings some , Wein/Wolfman sort of? symbolize " fan 
background " wave starting . ( Even if Bridwell/Thomas predated 
them . )
  Happy Goodmans leave ( in...stages !!!!! ) Marvel , I believe 
Leibowitzes , at DC , back down from very active involvement with 
company .
  " SUPERMAN " knocked off #1 title sales peak by " ARCHIE " 
title . How long did Big Blue hold it ? Did any Bat-title ??????? 
Yes , doubtless , TV/records helped ol Arch' , but...hey ! Likewise 
with DC , no ???????
  



    Editorial , Etc.


      Mort Wesinger retires . DC hands over the Supers to a large 
variety of editors - Wanting 2 avoid 2 much concentration again ? 
( Or , of course , looking 4 new ideers...)
  Schwartz , "Superman " , " World's Finest "
  Boltinoff , " Action " , " Superboy "
  A Kanigher/Bridwell combination , credits-wise ? , " Lois Lane "
  Kirby , " Jimmy Olsen "
  Sekowsky , " Adventure " ( Supergirl ) 
  Stan and Jack split up! , apparent. w/much bad feelings? ( I din' 
read fan press then . )
  Jack gets National-istic , with more publicity , I think , than any 
CB creator's home arrangments had EVER received ?
  Stan starts counting down - even if he don' realize it just yet ! - to 
, by late 1972 , laying down ALL writing responsibilities .
  15c price rise . Will last ( if that ) two years ! Previous one lasted 
7 !!!!!!! Sets th' stage 4 a whole dancin' decade of itty-bitty price 
rices , and semi-jumps back down , and effectiveprice raises in 
level of production quality and # of ad pages..." The death of a 
thousand cuts " , I believe it's called !
  As I've mentioned , " other " companies , in wake of super-hero 
bust , apparently dcide 2 conced SH field 2 DC and new big guys 
Marvel . Basically continues throghout the 70s .
  Super-heroes , though , DO contract , certainly at DC...even 
remaining ones tend to demphasize shiny costumes , go for a 
more " real " level...Diana Rigg Wonder Woman , ( and Human 
Metal Men ! ) O'Neil/Adams Batman dropps Joker , etc. , even " 
FLASH " goes through a few Rouge-less years , if you 
remember that'n !!!!!!!
  At Marvel , tho the more " experimental/fan-favorite " '68 
launches ( Nick Fury , SSurfer , ) go bye-bye , they continue 
publishing many many more titles...leaving the cozy " Marvel 
Comics GROUP " image behind them forevermore...getting into  
more , non-" Marvel " genres " .
  Indeed , DC , too , and all across comicdom...It seems the 
aftermath of a previous superhero bust is being echoed , with 
genres that flourished before ( Western , romance...
and , especially , horror , natch . ) tried again . 
  Except for ( soon-to-fall ) Sugar & Spike , DC's 60s humor 
books are falling away...except for teen ( Binky , Debbi , etc. ) 
attempt ( Though , by late-'72 , it would itself be gonesville , 
Daddio . ) .
  " Superman " book , with revamp , becomes monthly - Even with 
being surpassed in sales ? Beginning of end of newsstand 
returns-oriented " eight-times-a-year " system . Beginning of " 
cater to specific audiences , to the max " marketing philosophy , 
which , by the Nineties...
  DC decides to end " no subscriptions " ideer...


                Content
  " Superman " Kryptonite Nevermore /" mod togs " revamp .                      

" Relevance " gives a bit of an enema/something new , ( An older 
friend once recalled seeing Neal Adams - himself , somewhat " 
younger " - on the Tonight Show , IIRC ! ) gets , along with 
SuperVamp , Kirby , Spidey/Drugs , and , indeed , Code revamp 
itself , mainstream media publicity - I remember , around then , 
NEWSWEEK , NEW YORK MAGAZINE , and Sunday NEW YORK 
TIMES magazine articles - the Sunday Mag. one reproduced a My 
Lai-insipired Sgt. Rock cover , on its cover - and a front of daily 
second section TIMES Spidey/Code story !
  Code loosening , among other things , certainly makes things 
considerably easier 4 bugreoning horror and barbarian/S&S 
genres...


      For " our " company ( What , you thought I forgot 'em ? ) - 
Uuhh , aahh , uuhh , Carpenters and James Tayor becoming big 
makes for dull lyrics in HIT PARADER - No , no , no , no , no , the 
swichover of ( much of ) the Hanna-Barbera account to Derby 
ends - decade? longer? - period of , essentially , 1 company 
having 100% of animation properties ( Okay , okay , okay , Harvey 
! Uuhh - Well , by then , couldn't you say that Little Audrey , 
Herman/Katnip , etc. weren't that MAJOR as animation properties 
. Were they even shown that much , really , outside of the East 
Coast ? Hey , look , they were COMPANY-owned , so not likely to 
switch , so...Archie , Uv Cawss , BECAME A. M. A. P. , by then...) . 
Perhaps symbolic of how bad ( I guess . ) Gold Key's distribution 
had become , and would become ?
  Yes , yes , I know , H/B , obviously , would end up REGRETTING 
IT...Whateva !







                      See ? Whaddaya think ? 


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., wlllljoyyyyy <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>   I hain't used this name in a while here , so...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  ( roughly ) '69-'70 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Management/Ownership Reasons
> 
> 
>     Broome/Drake/Fox's axis's shitcanning from DC , after union 
> fiasco , causes need 4 mucho new writers , etc. Giordano's 
> arrival brings some , Wein/Wolfman sort of? symbolize " fan 
> background " wave starting . ( Even if Bridwell/Thomas 
predated 
> them . )
>   Happy Goodmans leave ( in...stages !!!!! ) Marvel , I believe 
> Leibowitzes , at DC , back down from very active involvement 
with 
> company .
>   " SUPERMAN " knocked off #1 title sales peak by " ARCHIE " 
> title . How long did Big Blue hold it ? Did any Bat-title ??????? 
> Yes , doubtless , TV/records helped ol Arch' , but...hey ! 
Likewise 
> with DC , no ???????
>   
> 
> 
> 
>     Editorial , Etc.
> 
> 
>       Mort Wesinger retires . DC hands over the Supers to a large 
> variety of editors - Wanting 2 avoid 2 much concentration again 
? 
> ( Or , of course , looking 4 new ideers...)
>   Schwartz , "Superman " , " World's Finest "
>   Boltinoff , " Action " , " Superboy "
>   A Kanigher/Bridwell combination , credits-wise ? , " Lois Lane 
"
>   Kirby , " Jimmy Olsen "
>   Sekowsky , " Adventure " ( Supergirl ) 
>   Stan and Jack split up! , apparent. w/much bad feelings? ( I 
din' 
> read fan press then . )
>   Jack gets National-istic , with more publicity , I think , than any 
> CB creator's home arrangments had EVER received ?
>   Stan starts counting down - even if he don' realize it just yet ! - 
to 
> , by late 1972 , laying down ALL writing responsibilities .
>   15c price rise . Will last ( if that ) two years ! Previous one 
lasted 
> 7 !!!!!!! Sets th' stage 4 a whole dancin' decade of itty-bitty price 
> rices , and semi-jumps back down , and effectiveprice raises 
in 
> level of production quality and # of ad pages..." The death of a 
> thousand cuts " , I believe it's called !
>   As I've mentioned , " other " companies , in wake of 
super-hero 
> bust , apparently dcide 2 conced SH field 2 DC and new big 
guys 
> Marvel . Basically continues throghout the 70s .
>   Super-heroes , though , DO contract , certainly at DC...even 
> remaining ones tend to demphasize shiny costumes , go for a 
> more " real " level...Diana Rigg Wonder Woman , ( and Human 
> Metal Men ! ) O'Neil/Adams Batman dropps Joker , etc. , even " 
> FLASH " goes through a few Rouge-less years , if you 
> remember that'n !!!!!!!
>   At Marvel , tho the more " experimental/fan-favorite " '68 
> launches ( Nick Fury , SSurfer , ) go bye-bye , they continue 
> publishing many many more titles...leaving the cozy " Marvel 
>

>               Indeed , DC , too , and all across comicdom...It seems 
the 
> aftermath of a previous superhero bust is being echoed , with 
> genres that flourished before ( Western , romance...
> and , especially , horror , natch . ) tried again . 
>   Except for ( soon-to-fall ) Sugar & Spike , DC's 60s humor 
> books are falling away...except for teen ( Binky , Debbi , etc. ) 
> attempt ( Though , by late-'72 , it would itself be gonesville , 
> Daddio . ) .
>   " Superman " book , with revamp ,end of newsstand 
> returns-oriented " eight-times-a-year " system . Beginning of " 
> cater to specific audiences , to the max " marketing ph








    





    Oh , and Tower goes boom...marking last trace of '66-era " 
boom " startups...likewise , in its own lil' corner/genre , 
Gilberton/CI...
















> 
> 
>                 Content
>   " Superman " Kryptonite Nevermore /" mod togs " revamp .                      
> 
> " Relevance " gives a bit of an enema/something new , ( An 
older 
> friend once recalled seeing Neal Adams - himself , somewhat 
" 
> younger " - on the Tonight Show , IIRC ! ) gets , along with 
> SuperVamp , Kirby , Spidey/Drugs , and , indeed , Code 
revamp 
> itself , mainstream media publicity - I remember , around then , 
> NEWSWEEK , NEW YORK MAGAZINE , and Sunday NEW 
YORK 
> TIMES magazine 
> 
> 
>       For " our " company ( What , you thought I forgot 'em ? ) - 
> Uuhh , aahh , uuhh , Carpenters and James Tayor becoming 
big 
> makes for dull lyrics in HIT PARADER - No , no , no , no , no , 
the 
> swichover of ( much of ) the Hanna-Barbera account to Derby 
> ends - decade? longer? - period of , essentially , 1 company 
> having 100% of animation properties ( Okay , okay , okay , 
Harvey 
> ! Uuhh - Well , by then , couldn't you say that Little Audrey , 
> Herman/Katnip , etc. weren't that MAJOR as animation 
properties 
> . Were they even shown that much , really , outside of the East 
> Coast ? Hey , look , they were COMPANY-owned , so not likely 
to 
> switch , so...Archie , Uv Cawss , BECAME A. M. A. P. , by then...) 
. 
> Perhaps symbolic of how bad ( I guess . ) Gold Key's 
distribution 
> had become , and would become ?
>   Yes , yes , I know , H/B , obviously , would end up 
REGRETTING 
> IT...Whateva !
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                       See ? Whaddaya think ?


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 I am a fan.  I have several revival books from the 80s.  I think D.C. butchered a lot of the characters when they had them.
Rome
  chromium_foil <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I am wondering if anyone in our group---other than myself, I mean---
are or is fans of the MLJ heroes, either of the 1940's, the 1960's 
revivals (hokier but mildly amusing), or of the 1980's Red 
Circle/Archie Adventure Series revival-?? I myself rather like the 
1980's revival, and I am brave enough to state so! Any interest out 
there in discussing them? There was a lot of great talent in the 80's 
versions, both in art and writing. And hey-did you know there TWO 
SHIELD series by Red Circle? Only one is in the guide. ORIGINAL 
SHIELD ran 4 issues. The Lancelot Strong version was called THE 
SHIELD #1 and #2. The title changed for #3 to SHIELD STEEL STERLING. 
#4 THROUGH #7 the title was simply STEEL STERLING, and none of these 
are in the guide. The Lancelot Strong late 1950's version of the 
character died in #3.
Phil


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I'm with you on this. The old MLJ heroes are a lot of fun. My 
collection has most of the original Mighty Crusaders issues and I 
personally really liked Rich Buckler's 80's Red Circle revival of 
that team. Buckler is one of those overlooked talents who has quietly 
done some truly fine work at most if not all of the publishers over 
the decades. I prefer the Kirby Shield over the Golden Age version 
myself. My favorite MLJ character is likely the Comet. His history is 
very wonky indeed. I have just a few of the DC Impact versions and 
despite some good artwork they didn't really work for me, but then I 
only got them from the back issue bins. 

Of note is that just this month (and still on sale) The Jaguar makes 
a guest appearance in Sabrina the Teen-Age Witch. I know it sounds 
absurd, but the story is okay even if the characters are a bit off 
the model so to speak. 

Dean


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I abso-tively agree with you that comics fans tend to disregard non-
super hero comics so much that their view of "The Comics" is focused 
almost entirely on the super heroes, so what happens among super 
heroes is "assumed" to be what happens to (all) "The Comics". 
Specifically, the "Age" thing (Golden Age, etc) breaks down 
completely when you think of ALL comic books! Westerns, horror, 
crime, romance and animated/funny animal comics went along pretty 
much undisturbed by whatever happened to super hero comics; certainly 
there were periods of greater and lesser popularity for,say, crime 
comics, but they all were hardly at all tied into the super hero 
stuff. Even in terms of quality, there's no single set of "periods".
   I myself even tend to fall into this trap. I hope it's not because 
I'm a single minded hero fan--though I certainly was in my teens (but 
even then I read books that were pretty much super heroes, like 
Tarzan, Lone Ranger, The Phantom). Mainly it's just that it's a type 
of short hand. If I say "The golden Age Jack Kirby art", I don't have 
to specify much more and everyone pretty much knows what I'm talking 
about.
   


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Dean-thanks for the tip of Jaquar in Sabrina. I will see if I can 
locate one. You might further like to know that the Mighty Crusaders, 
in the last year or so, also appeared in Archie's Weird Mysteries--2 
issues of that series, #3, and I forget the other issue, as I have 
them at home. One of those I have 2 copies of, if you wish to trade 
something for it. They are quite fun, if light.
Phil


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Dean---I also have an extra copy of red circle comics' 1983 Mighty 
Crusaders#1---in case you (or anyone else for that matter) are 
interested in trading for that one. This is actually a really nice 
issue. I, too, have many red circle mlj '80's comics but not all. 
Still need most Mighty Crusaders, (#3 up with a few exeptions), many 
Blue Ribbon Comics,(#&7 up except that I do have #12), and  Steel 
Sterling #4 to #7. but I do have all nine issues of the Fly's from 
the 1980's. (Got those at a flea market for 25 cents each, and they 
are in great shape!) Anyone have any of these titles to sell or trade?
Phil


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Howdy. My name is Joe Zierman. I started collecting comics in the 
early 70's picking up the occasional Charlton; only recently however 
have I begun to discover all that was the Charlton universe.
In recent months, I've been trying to get my mitts on a low-grade 
copy of Charlton Premiere #1, with no luck. I'm especially interested 
in the Steve Skeates scribed tale therein, "The Tyro Team". 
Is there any chance anyone with a copy would be willing to scan and 
post a few pages of this tale? If so, I'd love to see this.
Thanks.
Joe Z


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Thanks but I have those Archie Mystery issues featuring the MLJ 
heroes. Those were fun, and better tha nothing, but there is a lot of 
wasted potential there for Archie to make some fun comics. Hopefully 
the success of these guest appearances will inspire them to try out 
superheroes again in a stand alone book.

Rich Buckler is very underrated. The rap he took (unfairly to my 
mind) for drawing too much like Kirby (to even swiping poses and 
such) has hurt the reputation of one of the Bronze Age's dominant 
artists. He could do a darn good Kirby and a reputable Buscema or 
Adams, but Buckler also had his own style which is shown to great 
effect in those Red Circle books. Hopefully he will get is 
recognition before very much longer.

Dean 


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Dean-I agree with you that Rick Buckler is an incredible talent! 
Unfortunately, he was saddled with some lackluster scripts often. Me, 
I rather liked the 2 issue comet series-billed as a 6 issue series on 
the covers, oddly, and also the 3 issue Black Hood series. Mighty 
Crusaders was fun, but the writing wasn't that good (great art!) To 
me, the Fly outfit looks very dated, and I loved Blue Ribbon Comics, 
and the Steel series#4-7. Maybe Archie Comics is testing the waters 
re: Mighty Crusaders for a new revival? Dare we hope? If they got 
strong writers and artists (great art cannot forever, in a comic, 
stand alone with average or below par writing to sustain titles)---
perhaps a revival could actually fly. One of the biggest complaints 
on the letters pages back then was the LACK of character development. 
There was some, admittedly. What do you think, Dean?
Phil


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In case anyone is interested in trading for them, in a collection I 
bought on Saturday, I now have duplicates (multiples) of the Red 
Circle Mighty Crusaders#1 and also some Red Circle Fly#1 and #2's. 
Not interested in making any profit on them. Would like to trade for 
something I don't have.
Phil


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What made me laugh in one of the ORIGINAL SHIELD'S (Red Circle's)---
it was #3 or #4---was when the Shield decided he was going back 
to "his original costume". The other costume he had on was the same 
costume , but with a pair of red trunks over it, held up by a belt. 
For drama's sake, I guess, the artist had him remove the entire 
outfit including trunks, then don a 2nd (same uniform), but without 
trunks. And this he called his "original outfit", instead of just 
taking those goofy trunks off. Ha,ha! Man! I do recall that in the 
sixties, though, those same trunks were blue,not red.
The other goofy thing was that very team name, "The Mighty 
Crusaders". Does that strike FEAR into your heart? Obviously, those 
creators in the 1960's sat around a table remarking how 
the "Avengers" name was already taken, both by Marvel, and also by 
Patrick Mcnee and Diana Rigg. Frankly, I liked most of the 1980's Red 
Circle comics, but that team name---sheeee! I think possibly my 
favourite Red Circle character was The Web. I just like those crazy 
longjohns!
Phil


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Yes, one of the inscrutable conundrums of the Charlton revival of 
Blue Beetle in the 1960's was that Charlton never took the time to 
explain the relationship between the policeman Dan Garrett Blue 
Beetle and the archaeologist Blue Beetle Dan Garrett.

However, someone did broach the issue at Americomics/AC. In 
Americomics#3, the claim was made that the policeman Dan Garrett and 
the archaeologist Dan Garrett were the same person.

How the writer would have explained this odd career path was not 
clear. One panel mentioned that the Golden Age Blue Beetle fell 
victim "to a mad scientist's bomb".

I suppose the writer had an amnesia scenario in mind. Does anyone 
remember anything about this?


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I have that issue around here somewhere and I'll investigate when I 
have a chance. But it does make me wish that AC had gotten hold of 
the rights to those characters instead of DC. We would never have 
gotten lengthy series featuring Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and The 
Question, but I think Bill Black's little company is in many respects 
the natural heir to the independent Charlton tradition. Black really 
loves the material he and his cohorts put out, and a little of that 
caring touch would go a long way with these neglected and misused 
characters. 

Dean


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I agree.  DC purchased those Charlton heroes, and for the most part made pap 
out of them.   This is in part because the creators of the Charlton heroes, 
guys like Ditko, Morisi, Boyette, etc. were so unique in their drawing styles 
and outlook that it would be hard to duplicate their styles by other, not to 
say lesser, hands.  And while I'm here, let me mention Rocke Mastroserio, who 
is perhaps the most underappreciated Charlton artist.  I am grateful for 
whatever work of his I see being reprinted nowadays, and can only wish that 
more of it be reprinted.


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I really hated that story, since it gave the Blue
Beetle a "cosmic" origin and totally disregarded the
Fox character in favour of the Charlton Dan Garrett.

My personal theory has always been that the original
Blue Beetle's sidekick, Sparky (Sparkington J.
Northrup, who had strawberry blonde hair just like the
Charlton Dan Garrett as opposed to the black hair of
the Fox Garrett), grew up to become the archaeologist
Dan Garrett of Charlton with a name change in honour
of his friend and wartime crimefighting partner.

If anyone's interested, I can post a scan from that
story which makes the two very different Dan Garretts
out to be the same man (something I'm glad was never
made official).

Doc

--- CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>    Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 19:09:31 -0000
>    From: "docsavage80" <docsavage80@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Golden Age Blue Beelte/Dan Garrett, the
> policeman
> 
> Yes, one of the inscrutable conundrums of the
> Charlton revival of 
> Blue Beetle in the 1960's was that Charlton never
> took the time to 
> explain the relationship between the policeman Dan
> Garrett Blue 
> Beetle and the archaeologist Blue Beetle Dan
> Garrett.
> 
> However, someone did broach the issue at
> Americomics/AC. In 
> Americomics#3, the claim was made that the policeman
> Dan Garrett and 
> the archaeologist Dan Garrett were the same person.
> 
> How the writer would have explained this odd career
> path was not 
> clear. One panel mentioned that the Golden Age Blue
> Beetle fell 
> victim "to a mad scientist's bomb".
> 
> I suppose the writer had an amnesia scenario in
> mind. Does anyone 
> remember anything about this?



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I have to just butt in to say that I think we all owe a thanks to 
Bill Black for his 30-year stint at breinging back to public view so 
many great comics characters. I don't know the guy--though I met him 
once years and years ago--but he's done a tremendous, often 
thankless, but admirably persistant job at keeping a certain comics 
tradition alive. I personally loved being able to buy a lot of the 
jungle girl, western, and GA super hero comics he's published and I 
agree with the writer of the previous post that it would have been 
great if Black had been able to keep the Charlton action heroes for a 
while and kept them out of the hands of DC. While Black mostly 
reprints material, I think he might have allowed CARING writers to 
enhance, rather than exploit the Charlton properties. And I think the 
unique touches that made each Charlton character stand out would have 
made them worthy alternatives to the Marvel/DC stables. 
   Anyway, I just wanted to take the time to point out that Bill 
Black has done an admirable job over many years. 


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> If anyone's interested, I can post a scan from that
> story which makes the two very different Dan Garretts
> out to be the same man (something I'm glad was never
> made official).
> 
   Thanks, that would be nice.


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I just purchased Americomics #3 last weekend. What was said by way of 
explanation was that the stories in it would have originally appeared 
in an issue of Charlton  Bullseye, if the book had survived. Frankly, 
I dislike the idea that the original Blue Beetle was the same as the 
1960s version. I mean, other than the name and general costume design 
(it was blue with gauntlets), they were entirely different.
Hey, I have it!, The Fox stories take place on a parallel Earth, much 
like the Charlton Earth, but where things take place 20 years 
before...



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It is interesting that the conversation has turned to Bill Black's AC 
Comics. Because, you see, over the past week or so, I have been doing 
a lot of research on AC Comics history. Here is what I have learned: 
AC Comics was, prior to the early 1980's, known as Paragon 
Publications. Thus, the name of one of their characters, Captain 
Paragon. But, did you also know: Cap Paragon's first appearance was 
in Captain Paragon #1, 1970? (!!!) Not to be confused with the 4 
issue Captain Paragon 4 issue series several years later. This is a 
rare one shot. You can see it's b and w cover by plugging in PARAGON 
PUBLICATIONS, selecting option #6, and going to the website you see 
there. You can also see the cover for #2 there, with a different 
title on the cover. Tara the jungle girl is on cover #2. I have 
learned PARAGON PUBLICATIONS published numerous comics in the early 
70's to early 80's, some others of which were: MACABRE WESTERN#1, 
PHANTOM LADY#1, and many, many others. All are rare, none are in the 
Price Guide, and they had very,very small print runs. Interesting, 
yes. What do you think of that, Dean? Me, I am a big AC fan, but not 
of FemForce.
Phil


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As a follow-up on the origins (or related info) on early 
predescessors of ac comics (and if you can spell that predec..... 
word, you're a better man than me!!---)--- you might be interested in 
knowing about some rare finds in my collection. These are: NIGHT 
VOYAGES PRESENTS (inside in the indicia it says SWASHBUCKLERS#1). It 
is a large, mag-sized (or larger), and much thicker, profusely 
illustrated fanzine that is almost entirely comic book stories new 
for that edition, by such people as Rich Burchett, etc,etc. In this 
is the very first appearance of (later AC's) Colt the Weapons 
Mistress, and some other AC characters. I also have SWASHBUCKLERS 
#2,#3 and #4. But I don't know if issues #5 up were published or not. 
Any ideas??? Anyone know? Also, anyone else know about obscure pre-AC 
PARAGON PUBLICATIONS zines and comics, none of which are in the 
guide???
Phil


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Thanks a bunch for the info. AC is the one independent company (save 
for Bongo's Radioactive Man) which I buy at all. I was around for 
those early AC color comics back in the early 80's which sold for the 
then shocking price of two whole dollars (oh for the days).

I am a Femforce fan all the way. I am occassionaly put off by the 
more repellant mysoginistic attitudes reflected in some of the books, 
but the general tone of the book is more like a fun 60's comic than 
any other book on the market. Brad Gorby is a true unknown talent of 
high quality who frankly reminds of John Byrne and his early Charlton 
work. In Byrne's case he went on to grander things in comics. Gorby 
has mostly disappeared, at least as far as I can tell.

I have been lucky enough to find a few of those old 70's Paragon 
publications and they are interesting to say the least. Clearly there 
is a fannish quality to the work and again a tendency to focus a bit 
too much on female secondary sexual physical traits, but overall they 
have an enthusiasm and sense of fun missing in many if not most 
comics these days.

The AC reprints tend to be a bit pricey (I understand why) so when I 
do find one for a discount price I generally scoop it up. But it 
would have been cool indeed if instead of Atoman we had Captain Atom, 
instead of Scarlet Scorpion we had Blue Beetle, and I'm sure Black 
and the boys could find a place for Nightshade.

Dean


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Dean-you are welcome. Can you kindly give me some info as to what 
PARAGON PUBLICATIONS (and also any AC info not in guide) as to what 
related fannish publications you have in your collection you were 
referring to, please. I fancy myself an amateur comics historian, and 
I am trying to find out just what was published. Dealers don't even 
know! Thus, any help of info you can give me would be greatly 
appreciated! EG: title names, how many #'s published, company names, 
artists, writers, what characters and featured, and dates published--
month and year. I would GREATLY appreciate any info you can kindly 
provide. Thanks!
Phil Latter


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http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/atlas4.html notest that a 
hypothetical parallel Earth has been created for the policeman Dan 
Garrett. 

Earth-Fox
During the Golden Age Fox published a number of characters including 
the original Blue Beetle I. Years later the Charlton group bought up 
the rights for a number of Fox properties and added them to their 
stable (Earth-Four). The Earth-Fox also had a copy of the Phantom 
Lady. It would seem that when DC acquired the rights to the National 
characters in the Silver Age that they assumed that they also had 
rights to the Phantom Lady who had been originally published by 
Quality. However the character had in part transferred to Fox where 
she become popular before the Comic Code came in. This Fox Phantom 
Lady was not part of the properties picked up by Charlton and now 
published by AC Comics as part of their Golden Age reprint titles and 
has been worked into the Femforce all female superteam. 

http://www.enjolrasworld.com/Annotations/Golden%20Age%
20Annotations.htm notes that the Golden Age Blue Beetle may have 
appeared in issue#4 of the Golden Age mini-series
Page 12 The Golden Age Blue Beetle appears on this page, in all three 
of the group panels.  To my reckoning, he is the only character in 
this series who was not owned in the '40s by either DC or Quality 
Comics (with the exception of the cameos on page 6 of Book One).  
Blue Beetle's wartime adventures were published by Fox Publishing, 
and ownership of the character had passed to Charlton Comics in the 
1960s.

  




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...AGAIN! , I've been having problems !


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This may not help much, but there is a webpage which gives a really 
comprehensive list of fanzines. I'll see if I can "rediscover" it and 
post it here--I'd like to visit it again anyway. It's a huge 
checklist. The reason I mention that is because Black's early efforts 
were considered "fanzines" and not comics--a larger size, cardstock 
covers, black and white interiors, etc. That's why the Price Guide 
won't list 'em.
   Want a personal anecdote? When I met Bill Black in person while a 
friend was dropping off some art (Bill Fugate, did stuff for "Big 
Bang Comics", Disney's "The Little Mermaid", etc.), we were all 
discussing various things; as it turned out, at the time (1980) (and 
I presume, still), Black made extra money drawing fetish art for 
private individuals. Now Bill Black is a bit of a prude...he doesn't 
much tolerate nudity, much less anything that shows fornication/porn. 
But he does like women in very revealing outfits and black stockings, 
underwear, etc. I remember him mentioning one client who wanted him 
to draw an extreme close-up of a suspender clasp holding up a silk 
stocking on a woman's leg--not the woman, not even much of the lag, 
just a close-up of the clasp and top of the stocking!
    For me, personally---as much as I admire Black's energy and 
persistance, I find most of the NEW stuff unreadable. Femforce and 
any of the new stories are terribly written in my own ever-humble 
opinion. (I'm not saying no one should read the stuff, I'm just 
saying what I think).
   But all in all, you gotta admire the guy!
   Anyone know what a guy named Brad Foster is doing these days? Used 
to do a zine titled "Fever Pitch" (among many others).


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I recently picked up a Dr. Graves' Haunted Puzzle Book by Charlton 
Press from eBay. The cover is the Tom Sutton logo to The Many Ghosts 
of Dr. Graves and the Haunted logo together, with Peter Morisi art 
from a Vengeance Squad cover to make a rather eery looking picture. 
It's a little bigger than digest size and has several illos by Ditko, 
Sutton, Morisi and Boyette, among others, and lots of text and mazes 
and puzzles. It was distributed through the Xerox Book Club.
I'd seen lots of the 1970s Marvel maze and puzzle books, but never a 
Charlton Press puzzle book, so I was wondering if anyone on the list 
knows anything about this item. It doesn't have a date that I can find 
and is in great shape, although some of the mazes and puzzles have 
been worked.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Mik


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Chas and Dean---thanks for your helpful info!!!!!!!!!
On another note, who remembers (and or collected) the 9 issue DC 
Firebrand title of a few years ago? Not to be confused with the 
Golden Age Firebrand, nor the female Firebrand character in All Star 
Squadron. This firebrand wore a purple armoured cosutme with a large 
metal gold add on over the shoulders, and an orange helmet, that was 
surrounded by this green flamy mist. Visually, I thought this 
character was the coolest. I rather liked this series even though the 
art was kind of Neal Adams clone-ish. Hey, nothing wrong with that. 
But I was mighty peeved when I read JSA Secret Files and Origins#2, 
and this character was killed off by writer Geoff Johns, a man I have 
learned to hate---for that. Still, I like his writing on JSA the 
regular title. What can I say? I liked this new Firebrand! What say 
the rest of you?
Phil


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I collected the FIREBRAND series of a few years ago
because I liked the writer (Brian Augustyn, right?),
and I had almost been expecting to see a new FREEDOM
FIGHTERS series one of these days, since there seemed
to be so many revamps of Quality Comics characters in
the early '90s (the Ray, Black Condor, et cetera) all
at the same time. Did anyone else expect this to
happen? I'd really like to see a new Doll Man or Doll
Girl series, but since the silver age Atom who was
highly influenced by Doll Man has never really been
successful in the last decade or so, I don't see it
happening.

Doc

--- CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Message: 1
>    Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:42:15 -0000
>    From: chromium_foil
> Subject: chas, dean, firebrand
> 
> Chas and Dean---thanks for your helpful
> info!!!!!!!!!
> On another note, who remembers (and or collected)
> the 9 issue DC 
> Firebrand title of a few years ago? Not to be
> confused with the 
> Golden Age Firebrand, nor the female Firebrand
> character in All Star 
> Squadron. This firebrand wore a purple armoured
> cosutme with a large 
> metal gold add on over the shoulders, and an orange
> helmet, that was 
> surrounded by this green flamy mist. Visually, I
> thought this 
> character was the coolest. I rather liked this
> series even though the 
> art was kind of Neal Adams clone-ish. Hey, nothing
> wrong with that. 
> But I was mighty peeved when I read JSA Secret Files
> and Origins#2, 
> and this character was killed off by writer Geoff
> Johns, a man I have 
> learned to hate---for that. Still, I like his
> writing on JSA the 
> regular title. What can I say? I liked this new
> Firebrand! What say 
> the rest of you?
> Phil

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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., Doc Quantum of The Time Trust 
<the_time_trust_2000@y...> wrote:
> I collected the FIREBRAND series of a few years ago
> because I liked the writer (Brian Augustyn, right?),
> and I had almost been expecting to see a new FREEDOM
> FIGHTERS series one of these days, since there seemed
> to be so many revamps of Quality Comics characters in
> the early '90s (the Ray, Black Condor, et cetera) all
> at the same time. Did anyone else expect this to
> happen? I'd really like to see a new Doll Man or Doll
> Girl series, but since the silver age Atom who was
> highly influenced by Doll Man has never really been
> successful in the last decade or so, I don't see it
> happening.
> 
> Doc
> 
> --- CharltonBullseye@y... wrote:
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:42:15 -0000
> >    From: chromium_foil
> > Subject: chas, dean, firebrand
> > 
> > Chas and Dean---thanks for your helpful
> > info!!!!!!!!!
> > On another note, who remembers (and or collected)
> > the 9 issue DC 
> > Firebrand title of a few years ago? Not to be
> > confused with the 
> > Golden Age Firebrand, nor the female Firebrand
> > character in All Star 
> > Squadron. This firebrand wore a purple armoured
> > cosutme with a large 
> > metal gold add on over the shoulders, and an orange
> > helmet, that was 
> > surrounded by this green flamy mist. Visually, I
> > thought this 
> > character was the coolest. I rather liked this
> > series even though the 
> > art was kind of Neal Adams clone-ish. Hey, nothing
> > wrong with that. 
> > But I was mighty peeved when I read JSA Secret Files
> > and Origins#2, 
> > and this character was killed off by writer Geoff
> > Johns, a man I have 
> > learned to hate---for that. Still, I like his
> > writing on JSA the 
> > regular title. What can I say? I liked this new
> > Firebrand! What say 
> > the rest of you?
> > Phil
> 
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...Was this FIREBRAND a series where the character had a Hispnic ( or 
Italian ) name , and lived in a " Little Hispanica " ( or , uh , " 
Italy " ) slum neighborhood , and his brother was a Catholic priest , 
or , anyway , a seminarian ? I remember a mid-90s DC along those 
lines , and I've been " trying to remember " ( To quote THE 
FANTASTIKS , which had a somewhat longer run ! )...


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Recently, I located a used book store that has tens of thousands of 
mint 1980's alternative title publishers. Titles included near 
complete runs of Justice Machine, Elementals, Protectors, Arrow one 
shot (member of Protectors), and numerous others, for 25 to 50 cents 
each. I purchased near complete runs of all these titles. I read 4 or 
5 a day and am very enthused by these titles that I had overlooked as 
a callow youth. many have LOCs by my late Toronto friend, "TM MAPLE", 
alias Jim Burke. 
Was anyone else that visits the site a fan of these titles? I am a 
new convert! Better late than never, I say!
Phil Latter


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Recently, I located a used book store that has tens of thousands of 
> mint 1980's alternative title publishers. Titles included near 
> complete runs of Justice Machine, Elementals, Protectors, Arrow one 
> shot (member of Protectors), and numerous others, for 25 to 50 
cents 
> each. I purchased near complete runs of all these titles. I read 4 
or 
> 5 a day and am very enthused by these titles that I had overlooked 
as 
> a callow youth. many have LOCs by my late Toronto friend, "TM 
MAPLE", 
> alias Jim Burke. 
> Was anyone else that visits the site a fan of these titles? I am a 
> new convert! Better late than never, I say!
> Phil Latter






...I've been in ( under other names ) some Protectors/Malibu-oriented 
clubs ( fairly inactive now ) , if you're interested . Hey , re: the 
late Mr. Maple...IIRC , the FIRST TIME I saw his byline , I guessed 
it was a nom de fan - Think 'twas noting the Can. address , then the 
ironic ref. to " Big American Dollars " , then the " Maple " - Hm . 
Think 'twas in " TITANS SPOTLIGHT " . Sometimes I've wanted to talk 
about " Famous Letterhacks Throughout These Years " , although I've 
never been one of 'em - Did you find any Eighties/Nineties titles 
reprinting old stuff ? Was this in Toronto ?  


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I was more a fan of the Protectors from Malibu than of the Image stuff 
coming out from Malibu at the same time. The Protectors are updated 
Centaur Comics characters from the 1940s and had some big names who 
worked on the series when it was out in the early 1990s, including Tom 
Derenick, Mike S. Miller, Samuel Clarke Hawbaker and Mike Deodato Jr.
I own the cover to one issue of Protectors, though I can't seem to 
recall on which issue it appeared. It has Man of War getting ready to 
slice the head off Dr. Monday (I think that's his name -- been awhile 
since I read these books) by Samuel Clarke Hawbaker, who later went on 
to pen Marvel's Nomad series. It's one of the best covers I've ever 
bought, but no art dealer will touch it, because it's not by a name 
company.
Can anyone help me with the issue number of this cover art? It was a 
black cover and was an early issue of Protectors -- maybe even one of 
the variant covers they ran.
Thanks so much,
Mike Browning
--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "joegouldiii" <joegouldiii@y...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Recently, I located a used book store that has tens of thousands 
of 
> > mint 1980's alternative title publishers. Titles included near 
> > complete runs of Justice Machine, Elementals, Protectors, Arrow 
one 
> > shot (member of Protectors), and numerous others, for 25 to 50 
> cents 
> > each. I purchased near complete runs of all these titles. I read 4 
> or 
> > 5 a day and am very enthused by these titles that I had overlooked 
> as 
> > a callow youth. many have LOCs by my late Toronto friend, "TM 
> MAPLE", 
> > alias Jim Burke. 
> > Was anyone else that visits the site a fan of these titles? I am a 
> > new convert! Better late than never, I say!
> > Phil Latter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...I've been in ( under other names ) some 
Protectors/Malibu-oriented 
> clubs ( fairly inactive now ) , if you're interested . Hey , re: the 
> late Mr. Maple...IIRC , the FIRST TIME I saw his byline , I guessed 
> it was a nom de fan - Think 'twas noting the Can. address , then the 
> ironic ref. to " Big American Dollars " , then the " Maple " - Hm . 
> Think 'twas in " TITANS SPOTLIGHT " . Sometimes I've wanted to talk 
> about " Famous Letterhacks Throughout These Years " , although I've 
> never been one of 'em - Did you find any Eighties/Nineties titles 
> reprinting old stuff ? Was th


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@y...> 
wrote:
> I was more a fan of the Protectors from Malibu than of the Image 
stuff 
> coming out from Malibu at the same time. The Protectors are updated 
> Centaur Comics characters from the 1940s and had some big names who 
> worked on the series when it was out in the early 1990s, including 
Tom 
> Derenick, Mike S. Miller, Samuel Clarke Hawbaker and Mike Deodato 
Jr.
> I own the cover to one issue of Protectors, though I can't seem to 
> recall on which issue it appeared. It has Man of War getting ready 
to 
> slice the head off Dr. Monday (I think that's his name -- been 
awhile 
> since I read these books) by Samuel Clarke Hawbaker, who later went 
on 
> to pen Marvel's Nomad series. It's one of the best covers I've ever 
> bought, but no art dealer will touch it, because it's not by a name 
> compan






...Marvel now owns the Protectors characters , but has done nada with 
tthem , including Miss Fury , whom(?) Timely published reprints of in 
the Forties...
> Can anyone help me with the issue number of this cover art? It was 
a 
> black cover and was an early issue of Protectors -- maybe even one 
of 
> the variant covers they ran.
> Thanks so much,
> Mike Browning
> --- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "joegouldiii" <joegouldiii@y...> 
wrote:
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > Recently, I located a used book store that has tens of 
thousands 
> of 
> > > mint 1980's alternative title publishers. Titles included near 
> > > complete runs of Justice Machine, Elementals, Protectors, Arrow 
> one 
> > > shot (member of Protectors), and numerous others, for 25 to 50 
> > cents 
> > > each. I purchased near complete runs of all these titles. I 
read 4 
> > or 
> > > 5 a day and am very enthused by these titles that I had 
overlooked 
> > as 
> > > a callow youth. many have LOCs by my late Toronto friend, "TM 
> > MAPLE", 
> > > alias Jim Burke. 
> > > Was anyone else that visits the site a fan of these titles? I 
am a 
> > > new convert! Better late than never, I say!
> > > Phil Latter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ...I've been in ( under other names ) some 
> Protectors/Malibu-oriented 
> > clubs ( fairly inactive now ) , if you're interested . Hey , re: 
the 
> > late Mr. Maple...IIRC , the FIRST TIME I saw his byline , I 
guessed 
> > it was a nom de fan - Think 'twas noting the Can. address , then 
the 
> > ironic ref. to " Big American Dollars " , then the " Maple " - 
Hm . 
> > Think 'twas in " TITANS SPOTLIGHT " . Sometimes I've wanted to 
talk 
> > about " Famous Letterhacks Throughout These Years " , although 
I've 
> > never been one of 'em - Did you find any Eighties/Nineties titles 
> > reprinting old stuff ? Was th


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Marvel also owns the Ultraverse characters, with which their second 
tier characters and even the X-Men mingled with during the mid-1990s. 
Some of those properties were pretty good and should be dusted off and 
used, but, for some reason, they're not. They're almost the equivalent 
to DC's Charlton characters -- severely underused.
And while I'm on the subject of DC's underuse of the Charlton 
characters ...
I know DC did a good job with the Archie superheroes under their 
Impact line a few years ago ... wouldn't it be nice if they had put as 
much cash behind their Charlton heroes and put them into the Impact 
line? I love the old Archie characters, but they just never seemed to 
find their audiences. I didn't much care for what DC did with the 
Charlton heroes in The LAW miniseries. Maybe one of these days they'll 
get them right ...
Mi


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Chas---did you ever find that comprehensive list of websites 
regarding fanzines???? You said you would look into it. I am just 
wondering if you had any luck, as I am greatly interested in finding 
out. Thanks.
Phil Latter


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What got me hooked on The Elementals and Justice Machine was the 
Texas Comics team up between JM and THUNDER Agents, which had The 
Elementals as a back-up feature. I read The Elementals until it 
started getting too weird for me, and JM as long as I could afford 
it. A peed at Mile High Comics' Internet Store shows me I missed a 
lot. Hmmmm... I have all the THUNDER Agents comics, most of hte 
Atlas, a good many of the Wally Wood and Russ Manning books... I need 
to pull out my Justice Manchine books and see what I do have. Maybe 
when I finish Sea Hunt...
I also have a Role Playing game version of Justice Machine from 
Palladium, I think.

Bill


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We can hope, but frankly I will have to say that DC did a pretty good 
push on many of the Charlton heroes they picked up. Blue Beetle had a 
30 something issue run, and both Captain Atom and The Question did 
much better than that. Of course both Cap and Beetle also have had 
pretty long stays in the Justice League over the years. Thunderbolt 
had his one year series and Nightshade was in Suicide Squad. Now I 
wasn't following DC back then and so I missed most if not all of this 
stuff (I don't regret it really all that much). But DC did give them 
a pretty good spin. Now Peacemaker only had that one pathetic mini-
series and his character was destroyed beyond repair. That one I'll 
give you. I don't like how they handle some of them, but they did 
give it a pretty decent try...at least the did a decade ago.

I liked the LAW pretty well myself, but I was not that happy about 
the abrupt ending. I want to see DC do more with the Charlton heroes 
especially Nightshade, Peacemaker, Question, and Son of Vulcan (which 
they may not actually own now), but I don't expect much. Maybe if 
they didn't OWN the characters outright, but were only leasing them 
as they did the MLJ heroes of the Impact line they would feel more 
pressure to get a real pressence on the market. Now they seem content 
to let them run around in the background fabric of the DCU.

Dean

> And while I'm on the subject of DC's underuse of the Charlton 
> characters ...
> I know DC did a good job with the Archie superheroes under their 
> Impact line a few years ago ... wouldn't it be nice if they had put 
as 
> much cash behind their Charlton heroes and put them into the Impact 
> line? I love the old Archie characters, but they just never seemed 
to 
> find their audiences. I didn't much care for what DC did with the 
> Charlton heroes in The LAW miniseries. Maybe one of these days 
they'll 
> get them right ...
> Mi


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The Texas Comics Thunder Agents/Elmentals comic is one of the great 
comics of the 80's. It not only hearalded the return of a Silver Age 
great, but gave us a very tasty and typical 80's team which proved 
eventually rather successful. I have nearly all the Agent material, 
but as for Elementals I will agree it seemed to lose its way after a 
while. But those early designs were first rate.

Justice Machine is a team which deserves a better fate. I can readily 
see that universe becoming part of the Marvel fabric. Those 
characters would fit very well in with many Marvel types. This will 
never ever happen, but it would be neat to see it.

Dean


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I stumbled across a really neat E-Man appearance drawn by none other 
than his co-creator Joe Staton. It shows up of all places in a volume 
called "MAD About Super Heroes". Check out a piece called "Superhero 
High" and on the splash you will see E-Man sharing space with over a 
score of other supertypes. One is Alec Tron's inspiration Plastic Man 
and the neatest thing is that Staton in a tip of the hat to E-Man's 
original impetus has the shape-changing duo de facto switching heads 
across the page. It's kind of neat.

The volume runs for $10 and features a wonderful array of Mort 
Drucker and Don Martin material, all of it pertaining to suerheroes. 
Admittedly the overwhelming majority deals with movie spoofs, but 
there is a lot of classic stuff too. Actually this is a pretty neat 
little bargain. Oh did I mention the Alex Ross cover and the 
delightful introduction by Adam West?

Dean


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From
http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09empire.html

<<<In 1986, author Ted White wrote a letter to The
Comics Journal (#112), stating that “Charlton’s
business practices were typical of mob-run companies,
and it was common knowledge in the publishing industry
that Charlton, Capital, et al., were mob-owned
businesses.” White’s comments were perhaps the first
public admission of what many—fans, Charlton
freelancers, and casual observers alike—privately
whispered about for years: The Derby publisher’s
alleged Mafia ties. Perhaps we’ve spoken to the wrong
people, but we’ve found no substantive evidence to
support the hushed rumors. White cites ruthless
tactics Charlton employed in the “killing” of the
Monarch paperback book imprint in the early ’60s,
though putting on an economic “squeeze” is surely not
for the exclusive purview of the Cosa Nostra,
“Mafia-like” actions notwithstanding.>>>

Wow. The alleged Mafia connection to Charlton is
complete news to me. I had heard rumors to that effect
on the Charlton-L group in the last couple of days, so
I looked into it a bit more.

I recall a story from DC's SANDMAN MYSTERY THEATRE
which dealt with a pulp fiction publisher which was a
Mob-owned business and was just moving into comics in
the late 1930s, and I remember wondering which of the
golden age publishers may have been one of the many
"legitimate businesses" run by the Mafia, but I never
imagined that Charlton was one of them.

Doc

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 Thanks for the tip, I went and got my copy today!  I will have to include it on my E-Man site.
Rome
  sonofvulcan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I stumbled across a really neat E-Man appearance drawn by none other 
than his co-creator Joe Staton. It shows up of all places in a volume 
called "MAD About Super Heroes". Check out a piece called "Superhero 
High" and on the splash you will see E-Man sharing space with over a 
score of other supertypes. One is Alec Tron's inspiration Plastic Man 
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original impetus has the shape-changing duo de facto switching heads 
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The volume runs for $10 and features a wonderful array of Mort 
Drucker and Don Martin material, all of it pertaining to suerheroes. 
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there is a lot of classic stuff too. Actually this is a pretty neat 
little bargain. Oh did I mention the Alex Ross cover and the 
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 Hello I just wondered if any of you had read the war titles that 
Charlton had put out and what did you think of them. Thanks


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Charlton's real contribution to comics during the 60's and 70's was 
that they kept such genre material in circulation. When everyone 
switched to superheroes (of course so did Charlton to an extent) the 
Big C also kept a great many war books on the market. By the late 
70's Charlton was about the only game in town for War and Romance 
comics. As well the company was the leader in Ghost comics.

The thing that stands out about Charlton's war books is that they 
present one-shot stories of soldiers in all of the U.S. conflicts 
over the decades. DC and Marvel were focused on WWII and it was left 
to Charlton to give us stories about the Civil War, WWI, Korea and 
even Vietnam as well as (of course) WWII. 

Further, despite such standouts as Willie Schultz and the Iron 
Corporal, Charlton didn't have that many ongoing war features. This 
gave the Charlton stories a level of reality that even DC's excellent 
Rock stories couldn't achieve.

And while he worked in all genres, war stories seeme to bring out the 
best in Nicholas Alascia. He is generally regarded as a hack these 
days, but Alascia was an artist who I was always able to identify and 
one I could count on for a well-crafted straight-forward story. Some 
of his best efforts were in the war books.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., Doc Quantum of The Time Trust=20
<the_time_trust_2000@y...> wrote:
> From
>=20
http://www.twomorrows.com/comicbookartist/articles/09empire.h
tml
>=20
> <<<In 1986, author Ted White wrote a letter to The
> Comics Journal (#112), stating that "Charlton's
> business practices were typical of mob-run companies,
> and it was common knowledge in the publishing industry
> that Charlton, Capital, et al., were mob-owned
> businesses." White's comments were perhaps the first
> public admission of what many=97fans, Charlton
> freelancers, and casual observers alike=97privately
> whispered about for years: The Derby publisher's
> alleged Mafia ties. Perhaps we've spoken to the wrong
> people, but we've found no substantive evidence to
> support the hushed rumors. White cites ruthless
> tactics Charlton employed in the "killing" of the
> Monarch paperback book imprint in the early '60s,
> though putting on an economic "squeeze" is surely not
> for the exclusive purview of the Cosa Nostra,
> "Mafia-like" actions notwithstanding.>>>
>=20
> Wow. The alleged Mafia connection to Charlton is
> complete news to me. I had heard rumors to that effect
> on the Charlton-L group in the last couple of days, so
> I looked into it a bit more.
>=20
> I recall a story from DC's SANDMAN MYSTERY THEATRE
> which dealt with a pulp fiction publisher which was a
> Mob-owned business and was just moving into comics in
> the late 1930s, and I remember wondering which of the
> golden age publishers may have been one of the many
> "legitimate businesses" run by the Mafia, but I never
> imagined that Charlton was one of them.
>=20
> Doc
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheTimeTrust/
> It's about Time...






...I've said this here B4 , but , you DO know , don't you , the=20
circumstances that lead to the partners behind C. meeting each=20
other ? No ????????? It's in the CBA ish...
>=20
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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> We can hope, but frankly I will have to say that DC did a pretty 
good 
> push on many of the Charlton heroes they picked up. Blue 
Beetle had a 
> 30 something issue run, and both Captain Atom and The 
Question did 
> much better than that. Of course both Cap and Beetle also 
have had 
> pretty long stays in the Justice League over the years. 
Thunderbolt 
> had his one year series and Nightshade was in Suicide 
Squad. Now I 
> wasn't following DC back then and so I missed most if not all 
of this 
> stuff (I don't regret it really all that much). But DC did give them 
> a pretty good spin. Now Peacemaker only had that one pathetic 
mini-
> series and his character was destroyed beyond repair. That 
one I'll 
> give you. I don't like how they handle some of them, but they did 
> give it a pretty decent try...at least the did a decade ago.
> 
> I liked the LAW pretty well myself, but I was not that happy 
about 
> the abrupt ending. I want to see DC do more with the Charlton 
heroes 
> especially Nightshade, Peacemaker, Question, and Son of 
Vulcan (which 
> they may not actually own now), but I don't expect much. Maybe 
if 
> they didn't OWN the characters outright, but were only leasing 
them 
> as they did the MLJ heroes of the Impact line they would feel 
more 
> pressure to get a real pressence on the market. Now they 
seem content 
> to let them run around in the background fabric of the DCU.
> 
> Dean
> 
> > And while I'm on the subject of DC's underuse of the 
Charlton 
> > characters ...
> > I know DC did a good job with the Archie superheroes under 
their 
> > Impact line a few years ago ... wouldn't it be nice if they had 
put 
> as 
> > much cash behind their Charlton heroes and put them into 
the Impact 
> > line? I love the old Archie characters, but they just never 
seemed 
> to 
> > find their audiences. I didn't much care for what DC did with 
the 
> > Charlton heroes in The LAW miniseries. Maybe one of these 
days 
> they'll 
> > get them right ...
> > Mi






...I guess that , it was during th' period of Giordano being the top 
man , that DC made as much use of the AHs as they did , no 
????????? Actually , hey , DC's made much more use of the 
AHs than they've made use of the non-Marvel Fawcett characters 
, no ????????? Have any ( NON-M , as I said , ) Fawcetter-s , 
EVER , had even one solo story to their own ?????????


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Charlton's real contribution to comics during the 60's and 70's 
was 
> that they kept such genre material in circulation. When 
everyone 
> switched to superheroes (of course so did Charlton to an 
extent) the 
> Big C also kept a great many war books on the market. By the 
late 
> 70's Charlton was about the only game in town for War and 
Romance 
> comics. As well the company was the leader in Ghost comics.
> 
> The thing that stands out about Charlton's war books is that 
they 
> present one-shot stories of soldiers in all of the U.S. conflicts 
> over the decades. DC and Marvel were focused on WWII and it 
was left 
> to Charlton to give us stories about the Civil War, WWI, Korea 
and 
> even Vietnam as well as (of course) WWII. 
> 
> Further, despite such standouts as Willie Schultz and the Iron 
> Corporal, Charlton didn't have that many ongoing war features. 
This 
> gave the Charlton stories a level of reality that even DC's 
excellent 
> Rock stories couldn't achieve.
> 
> And while he worked in all genres, war stories seeme to bring 
out the 
> best in Nicholas Alascia. He is generally regarded as a hack 
these 
> days, but Alascia was an artist who I was always able to 
identify and 
> one I could count on for a well-crafted straight-forward story. 
Some 
> of his best efforts were in the war books.
> 
> Dean






...I'm going 2 disagree w/You on some of yer. 2ndary 
points...Actually , if only B-Cause of Charlton being out of the new 
comics busimess by the end of 1976 , DC was the last major 
label 2B issuing romance titles - when Young Romance ( was it 
????????? ) went bye-bye , sometime in 1977 - '78 ? - I , 
cerimonially , bought th' last ish , 2 get a taste of what I'd been 
missing all these years .
  I suppose it might well be true that , throughout 1975-76 , 
Charlton might've been more ACTIVE in the " love " genre , while , 
arguably , DC was giving their remaining titles th' 
Oregon/Holland treatment - Didn't X-actly add up to sufficent 
sales for Charlton , now , did it ?????????
  ( Actually , this gives me an opening to digress - I've read , 
recently , that , during th' 70s , DC , trying to revive their romance 
titles , got Joe Simon , who , essentially , was the creator of the 
whole genre , to take over their romances 4 a while . Simon , of 
course , did other , slightly closer to the superhero mainstram , 
70s DC work , so , it fits - Has anyone ever seen these 70s Joe 
Simon - Joe Simon ! Joe Simon ! Joe Simon ! Joe Simon ! - No , 
no , no , get thee behind me , Satan !!!!!!!!! Did he try , perhaps , 
slightly greater social/economic realism , as his original , 
pre-Code , Prize romances did ? Recently , incidentally , DC's put 
out a book of old DC romance stories redialogued with " funny " 
new dialogue - a la LAST KISS - the " mainstream " comics 
press that I've seen's ignored it . Anyone ? )
  I also sort of thought that , though , I Supp-Hose(C) , 
concentrating ever the more on continuing characters and 
somewhat more superheroesque situations , DC's war line 
continued fairly well into th' early 80s - certainly past Dec. 1976 ! 
However , that's a VERY interesting thought , about C.'s use of 
times other than Dub Dub !!!!!!!!! Even . " back in the day " , I , 
always , wondered why DC's war comics were so . TOTALLY . 
WWII . and the Euro./German front at that ! I wondered if they 
thought that " people would be offended " by depictions of 
Japanese soldiers/even the use of anti-Japanese language that 
, realism-wise ( Seen as " appeal to racism " ? ) , actual WWII 
Pacific Front American soldiers certainly would've used ??????? 
( I recently read Michener's " TALES OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC " - I 
never had before - and noticed all the " Jap " , even " yellow devil " 
references . Don't paint me as Mr. P. C. - Obviously , soldiers of 
that time would've used that language , and worse ! Perhaps it's 
being in heavily Asian SF , where the 40s internment of J-A's is ( 
Deservedly , essentially . ) much writ.-up in the Arts/People 
sections of the papers . for one . )


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I'll give you that DC might have put the cap on the format, but 
without doubt Charlton carried the torch and dominated the stands 
with sheer numbers of romance comics in the late 60's and early 70's. 

The recent interest in this format has really surprised me. Romance 
comics were the last stop for the desparate comics fan. I being in 
that category used to read my sister's Charlton romance books. The 
craftsmanship is just as fine as anything in Charlton. There are 
apparently some folks involved in a great search for Ditko romance 
stories now with a handful having been discovered. Given Ditko's 
rather distinctly unromantic representation of women that one is a 
real surprise. Mr.Ditko was likely the best ever Spider-Man artist, 
but there is no doubt whatsoever that John Romita Sr. drew the most 
beautiful women in comics.

Dean


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Someone was recently was talking in our group about thunder agents. I 
was recently speaking to a comics dealer about the Deluxe/Lodestone 
one shot (David Singer's old company-yep,that thug that ripped off 
John Carbonaro's property)---title called Tales of Thunder#1. It is 
in the guide. My comics dealer,however, has never seen a copy. He 
doesn't know if this book exists. You can help. My question is---does 
anyone in our group own a copy, or have you ever seen a copy? Not to 
be confused with Deluxe's 5 issue Thunder Agents series.
Also, recently I did acquire a very rare Thunder Agents one shot from 
about 1982. It is listed in the guide as JCP Presents#1. It has some 
Neal Adams stuff new for that edition in it, etc. So, if you are a 
Thunder Agents fan, you may want to take a look. Can anyone give me 
any info on my query?
Phil Latter


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You know, I remember a comic like that coming out, but it easily could have 
been one of Carbonaro's comics.  Did the Singer comics (or one of them) 
feature a George Perez cover?  Sorry I can't be more of help.


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I'll give you that DC might have put the cap on the format, but 
> without doubt Charlton carried the torch and dominated the stands 
> with sheer numbers of romance comics in the late 60's and early 
70's. 
> 
> The recent interest in this format has really surprised me. Romance 
> comics were the last stop for the desparate comics fan. I being in 
> that category used to read my sister's Charlton romance books. The 
> craftsmanship is just as fine as anything in Charlton. There are 
> apparently some folks involved in a great search for Ditko romance 
> stories now with a handful having been discovered. Given Ditko's 
> rather distinctly unromantic representation of women that one is a 
> real surprise. Mr.Ditko was likely the best ever Spider-Man artist, 
> but there is no doubt whatsoever that John Romita Sr. drew the most 
> beautiful women in comics.
> 
> Dean






...Ditko's women were these sort of 1950s women who you KNOW were 
wearing X-tremely high heels and tight stockings/panties - Ditko 
shared a studio w/an artist who drew this Sweet Gwendoline-type 
bondage strip , and , according 2 him , helped/assisted on it ( Ditko 
denies this . ) .


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I was around at the time and collected up all the Thunder Agent 
material which was coming out from both Carbonaro and Singer and I've 
never seen the one-shot you are referring to. I have all five of the 
other excellently done Singer issues, but nothing beyond that. Wasn't 
Lodestone the company that Singer developed after Deluxe bit the 
bullet or do I have that reversed. I know Lodestone did some 
Futurians issues with Dave Cockrum, but I don't know of anything else 
from memory.

I know that other magazine you speak of. Isn't that a B&W magazine 
size attempt at the agents with various Adamsesque clones at work?

Dean


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Hi Dean-thanks for the reply, folks! Basically, myself and one of my 
(comics) dealers---don't want to sound like he is my drug dealer---
and for the record, no I don't indulge, thank you very much!--- are 
jointly trying to determine as to whether Tales of Thunder#1 listed 
in the guide....even exists, or if it is in fact misinfo based on an 
unfounded rumour. I haven't seen it myself. Another book I DO have 
that is a Thunder Agents book but NOT listed in the guide, done with 
PERMISSION from John Carbonaro, is simply titled THUNDER#1, a one-
shot b&w from Solson Productions. Has a Noman cover cover. I acquired 
this recently from a used bookstore for the sum of one dollar!

The aforementioned JCP Presents #1 in the guide is a mag-sized 
Thunder Agents one shot; I recently acquired this as well through a 
dealer. It has various NEW Thunder Agents stories. It is worth 
seeking out. No dean it doesn't have Neal Adams clones in it. It has 
in fact "The Man Himself"...Neal Adams, this story reprinted from 
Archie's Superhero Digest#2, and is a Black Hood (as in Mighty 
Crusaders) reprint. 

As I said, a backup story in this otherwise all new Thunder Agents 
stories in this one-shot. The mag has a colour cover and b & w 
interior. I recommend it. I am pretty sure the Solson THUNDER book, 
like JCP Presents#1, is a one-shot. 
Hmmmm. I still would sure like to know is Tales of Thunder#1 exists. 
I may try ebay.
Thanks folks!

Phil Latter


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Dean, big al: I, too, have never seen a copy of Tales of Thunder from 
Deluxe/Lodestone. Wonder if really exists, or an error in the 
Overstreet price guide to join the "cast of untold thousands." 

I asked one of my dealers about it recently, having chanced upon the 
entry in the guide quite by accident. He doesn't recall ever having 
seen the Tales of Thunder  one shot.To answer your query, Dean, David 
Singer originally did some work in the early 1980's on John 
Carbonaro's JCP Presents#1, which is a new stories' Thunder Agents 
one-shot. Well worth looking for; I recently acquired a copy. It is 
mag-sized, b and w with colour covers.

The Neal Adams story in it is by Neal himself, not an Adams clone. It 
is a reprint of Neal's Black Hood (as in Mighty Crusaders) story from 
the rare Archie's Super Hero Digest#2, which saw very limited 
distribution. The Black Hood story is the back up story in JCP 
Presents. All the other stories in JCP PRESENTS#1 are new for that 
scarce Thunder Agents one shot. They are, in my opinion, very well 
done. They have never, ever been reprinted.

John Carbonaro, in the early 1980's, legally acquired the rights to 
Thunder Agents, both in terms of reprinting Tower Thunder Agents 
stories EG: Hall of Fame, etc., and also for publishing NEW Thunder 
Agents stories. Unfortunately, at that time he had an 
unsavoury "friend" who contributed to JCP Presents#1, by the name of 
David Singer. Name ring a bell. What happened was all covered in THE 
COMICS JOURNAL, monthly blow-by-blow accounts for numerous months. 

As you know, JCP Presents was a one-shot. Even though John Carbonaro 
legally now owned Thunder Agents, Singer later decided Carbonaro was 
not rich enough to legally challenge Singer in court. Singer procured 
a large bank loan, under the imprint Deluxe Comics, and published 5 
polished (good writing, good art-snagged George Perez, for example) 
literally "Deluxe"-looking comics in full, breath-taking colour. The 
issues were impressive to say the least. It was a high-quality series.

What happened next was Carbonaro challenged him in court (somehow 
findly the funding)...Several times the Sheriff's Dept. legally tried 
to process serve Singer. He was at that time living with his mother. 
Singer had his mother lie for him at that time, saying he was NOT at 
home, EVERY TIME. See, as a former Corrections Officer myself, 
adjuctant to the Sheriff's Dept., I can tell you that for court 
appearance summons, BOTH IN CANADA AND THE U.S. (I am a Canadian, but 
this much,at least is the same in both countries, in terms of the 
law)....the legalese paper summons much be served IN PERSON by a 
Sheriff's deputy. See, if mailed, the person could say, "I never 
received it, it never arrived." 

Thus, several times, Sheriff's deputies came by to serve Singer. Each 
time Singer had his mother lie for him. Finally, she grew tired of 
all this, and proclaimed, "David is here." From the back room: "No, 
I'm not, mom!" Thus, much to his dismay, the slimeball got served. 
The long court proceedings which ensued found the courts siding with 
John Carbonaro, and that was the end of Deluxe Comics. Later, Singer, 
who by the way did have some lawyer training but either never 
completed his studies or failed his Bar exam (I forget which), knew 
enough legally, that he could continue publishing, even though the 
court decreed that Deluxe Comics legally was null and void....thus he 
changed the company name, calling it a "New Company---Lodestone 
Publishing"---to get by the court ruling. And published some other 
titles, including Codename: Danger. As I say, all of this was at the 
time reported in The Comics Journal. It makes Very entertaining 
reading. What is funny was reading about David Singer'd 
roundabout "logic" about the whole thing. The man is a pathological 
liar, no morals, etc., who realized opportunity by screwing over his 
best friend who had HIRED him to work on JCP Presents. The funny 
thing is that he lied about all the legal proceedings. His version is 
absolute fiction, and the proof in the pudding was: THE COMICS 
JOURNAL published ALL of the court documents that put the lie in no 
uncertain terms to ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF DAVID SINGER'S MOUTH!
Phil




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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Charlton's real contribution to comics during the 60's and 70's was 
> that they kept such genre material in circulation. When everyone 
> switched to superheroes (of course so did Charlton to an extent) 
the 
> Big C also kept a great many war books on the market. By the late 
> 70's Charlton was about the only game in town for War and Romance 
> comics. As well the company was the leader in Ghost comics.
> 
> The thing that stands out about Charlton's war books is that they 
> present one-shot stories of soldiers in all of the U.S. conflicts 
> over the decades. DC and Marvel were focused on WWII and it was 
left 
> to Charlton to give us stories about the Civil War, WWI, Korea and 
> even Vietnam as well as (of course) WWII. 
> 
> Further, despite such standouts as Willie Schultz and the Iron 
> Corporal, Charlton didn't have that many ongoing war features. This 
> gave the Charlton stories a level of reality that even DC's 
excellent 
> Rock stories couldn't achieve.
> 
> And while he worked in all genres, war stories seeme to bring out 
the 
> best in Nicholas Alascia. He is generally regarded as a hack these 
> days, but Alascia was an artist who I was always able to identify 
and 
> one I could count on for a well-crafted straight-forward story. 
Some 
> of his best efforts were in the war books.
> 
> Dean  Yes I agree Charlton did fill the gap with different stories 
and some were very good on dealing with war and the chracteres 
involved. Be checking in again c ya


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "joegouldiii" <joegouldiii@y...> wrote:

> 
> ...Ditko's women were these sort of 1950s women who you KNOW were 
> wearing X-tremely high heels and tight stockings/panties - Ditko 
> shared a studio w/an artist who drew this Sweet Gwendoline-type 
> bondage strip , and , according 2 him , helped/assisted on it ( 
Ditko 
> denies this . ) .

Somewhere there was a site that had some examples. If Ditko didn't 
help out Eric Stanton on the examples shown, then Stanton traced 
Ditko art. I mean, let's face it: Steve Ditko has one of THE most 
distinctive styles in comics. 

At least THINKING he knows what he's talking about, Bill


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As a follow-up to my "expose" on David Singer yesterday, I wanted to 
add the following, having looked up some of those old Comics Journals 
from several years past. An amusing entry. As the Sheriff's Deputies 
FINALLY succeeded in process serving David Singer for John 
Carbonaro's lawsuit against Singer, David's mother was overheard to 
say to her son, "David, you're in trouble AGAIN?!? What kind of 
trouble have you gotten yourself into THIS TIME?!?" ---or words to 
that effect.

When I lived in Toronto during the early to med 1980's, John 
Carbonaro himself came into the store one day when I was working, 
with advance published copies of JCP Presents, peddling them door to 
door. He was very polite but looked quite disshevelled-dirty clothes, 
and looked like he hadn't eaten in some time.Kind of gaunt. We took 
pity on him, and the store bought several copies from him. I never 
snagged a copy of it at the time but did procure a copy recently. It 
is a nice book

By the way, I noticed on ebay yesterday, that JCP PRESENTS#1 is up 
for auction right now. Just plug THUNDER AGENTS into ebay. Also Boris 
the Bear#11-which has a major appearance in it of thunder agents, 
including the cover. I just ordered a copy from my dealer today. I 
didn't previously know T.A. had appeared in that title.
Phil


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I'm surprised that no one has suggested thunderagents.com. They list 
Tales of THUNDER. HOWEVER, neither Mile High Comics (a great research 
tool, by the way) does not, nor does The Grand Comic Book Database.


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:

> Also Boris 
> the Bear#11-which has a major appearance in it of thunder agents, 
> including the cover. I just ordered a copy from my dealer today. I 
> didn't previously know T.A. had appeared in that title.
> Phil

Don't forget the appearance in Thunderbunny.

Bill


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Dean, big al: I, too, have never seen a copy of Tales of Thunder 
from 
> Deluxe/Lodestone. Wonder if really exists, or an error in the 
> Overstreet price guide to join the "cast of untold thousands." 
> 
> I asked one of my dealers about it recently, having chanced upon 
the 
> entry in the guide quite by accident. He doesn't recall ever having 
> seen the Tales of Thunder  one shot.To answer your query, Dean, 
David 
> Singer originally did some work in the early 1980's on John 
> Carbonaro's JCP Presents#1, which is a new stories' Thunder Agents 
> one-shot. Well worth looking for; I recently acquired a copy. It is 
> mag-sized, b and w with colour covers.
> 
> The Neal Adams story in it is by Neal himself, not an Adams clone. 
It 
> is a reprint of Neal's Black Hood (as in Mighty Crusaders) story 
from 
> the rare Archie's Super Hero Digest#2, which saw very limited 
> distribution. The Black Hood story is the back up story in JCP 
> Presents. All the other stories in JCP PRESENTS#1 are new for that 
> scarce Thunder Agents one shot. They are, in my opinion, very well 
> done. They have never, ever been reprinted.
> 
> John Carbonaro, in the early 1980's, legally acquired the rights to 
> Thunder Agents, both in terms of reprinting Tower Thunder Agents 
> stories EG: Hall of Fame, etc., and also for publishing NEW Thunder 
> Agents stories. Unfortunately, at that time he had an 
> unsavoury "friend" who contributed to JCP Presents#1, by the name 
of 
> David Singer. Name ring a bell. What happened was all covered in 
THE 
> COMICS JOURNAL, monthly blow-by-blow accounts for numerous months. 
> 
> As you know, JCP Presents was a one-shot. Even though John 
Carbonaro 
> legally now owned Thunder Agents, Singer later decided Carbonaro 
was 
> not rich enough to legally challenge Singer in court. Singer 
procured 
> a large bank loan, under the imprint Deluxe Comics, and published 5 
> polished (good writing, good art-snagged George Perez, for example) 
> literally "Deluxe"-looking comics in full, breath-taking colour. 
The 
> issues were impressive to say the least. It was a high-quality 
series.
> 
> What happened next was Carbonaro challenged him in court (somehow 
> findly the funding)...Several times the Sheriff's Dept. legally 
tried 
> to process serve Singer. He was at that time living with his 
mother. 
> Singer had his mother lie for him at that time, saying he was NOT 
at 
> home, EVERY TIME. See, as a former Corrections Officer myself, 
> adjuctant to the Sheriff's Dept., I can tell you that for court 
> appearance summons, BOTH IN CANADA AND THE U.S. (I am a Canadian, 
but 
> this much,at least is the same in both countries, in terms of the 
> law)....the legalese paper summons much be served IN PERSON by a 
> Sheriff's deputy. See, if mailed, the person could say, "I never 
> received it, it never arrived." 
> 
> Thus, several times, Sheriff's deputies came by to serve Singer. 
Each 
> time Singer had his mother lie for him. Finally, she grew tired of 
> all this, and proclaimed, "David is here." From the back room: "No, 
> I'm not, mom!" Thus, much to his dismay, the slimeball got served. 
> The long court proceedings which ensued found the courts siding 
with 
> John Carbonaro, and that was the end of Deluxe Comics. Later, 
Singer, 
> who by the way did have some lawyer training but either never 
> completed his studies or failed his Bar exam (I forget which), knew 
> enough legally, that he could continue publishing, even though the 
> court decreed that Deluxe Comics legally was null and void....thus 
he 
> changed the company name, calling it a "New Company---Lodestone 
> Publishing"---to get by the court ruling. And published some other 
> titles, including Codename: Danger. As I say, all of this was at 
the 
> time reported in The Comics Journal. It makes Very entertaining 
> reading. What is funny was reading about David Singer'd 
> roundabout "logic" about the whole thing. The man is a pathological 
> liar, no morals, etc., who realized opportunity by screwing over 
his 
> best friend who had HIRED him to work on JCP Presents. The funny 
> thing is that he lied about all the legal proceedings. His version 
is 
> absolute fiction, and the proof in the pudding was: THE COMICS 
> JOURNAL published ALL of the court documents that put the lie in no 
> uncertain terms to ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT OF DAVID SINGER'S MOUTH!
> Phil






...Would all of this stuff about the Black Hood reprint appearing in 
this Thunder Agents one-shot ( Not to mention Thunderbunny - Yes , I 
know he's creator-owned !!!!! 's guest appearances in Archie titles , 
and , what I think was a guest appearance or two by the Agents in , 
either/both , an Archie title , or Thunderbunny , ) give any backing 
to this " Tower was , at least in its , original , 1960s 
manifestation , owned by Archie . " story , which I ran into , over 
at Charlton-1 , but couldn't get any follow-up on ? 
  I guess the story holds that Tower published - legal , but not 
the " Archie image " por*o/semi-por* ( By mid-60s standards , 
anyway ! ) - in various of their paperback lines . Presumably , 
Tower , itself - Did it publish any comics other than the Thunders 
and Tippy Teen ? Was UNDERSEA AGENT a Thunder ? - was a " more 
legit " side company .
  ( NOTE: I've put expurgating astericks ar*und h*ere 'cause 'a the " 
no , you can't write datt woid ! " censors that some programs/'puters 
had - More than once , speaking of Archie , it meant that I couldn't 
refer to DeCarlo's JOSIE by its full post-1970 title !!!!!!! )  


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Hi I was just wondering if anyone has ever taken each issues #1-57 of 
the Captain Atom series that began in '87 and broken down the various 
characters that appeared in each issue into hero/villian, etc.?

If anyone has it and could give me access to the information, I'd 
appreciate it.  I promise you'd be credited for the project that 
myself and a couple of others are working on.


Quas



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Undersea Agent was never really a Thunder Agent in the original run I 
don't believe, but he was certainly folded into the mix both in the 
Deluxe run and later in the doomed Omni Comix appearance. 

I have not run across anything that makes me think Archie had any 
financial part of Tower, but I could be in the dark on that. I don't 
think much can be made of the Thunder Agent appearances in Archie 
books in the 80's as it was all too common for these "independent" 
projects to cross-pollinate. I always had the sense that the folks at 
Archie gave Carbonaro a place to finish his run on the series because 
they might sell a few issues and he had new product to publish. 

I don't have that Boris the Bear issue, but it's something to look 
for.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Undersea Agent was never really a Thunder Agent in the original run 
I 
> don't believe, but he was certainly folded into the mix both in the 
> Deluxe run and later in the doomed Omni Comix appearance. 
> 
> I have not run across anything that makes me think Archie had any 
> financial part of Tower, but I could be in the dark on that. I 
don't 
> think much can be made of the Thunder Agent appearances in Archie 
> books in the 80's as it was all too common for these "independent" 
> projects to cross-pollinate. I always had the sense that the folks 
at 
> Archie gave Carbonaro a place to finish his run on the series 
because 
> they might sell a few issues and he had new product to publish. 
> 
> I don't have that Boris the Bear issue, but it's something to look 
> for.
> 
> Dean

A lot of this has probably been discussed over at the THUNDER Agent's 
group. Still...

I've got he Comic Book Artist edition devoted to THUNDER, and what I 
remember of that is that UNDERSEA Agent was not done by Wally Wood as 
in he was basically providing Tower with the stories and art which 
they would publish in THUNDER Agents, Dynamo, and NoMan. The 
procedure was different on UA, and someone else was assigning stories 
and art, often using the same people Wood was using. Otherwise, there 
was no real connection between the two. One UNDERSEA Agent story 
appeared in TA comics, but that was probably just a way to use up 
inventory after UA was cancelled.
But, if they hadn't cancelled Tower comics, can't you see what was 
next: Stellar Police And Counter-Espionage Agent!

Is it just me, or do a lot of people who like Charlton comics like 
Tower comics too?

Bill


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was there a Major Force in the pre-Crisis canon or was that a 
strickly post-Crisis invention?



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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "cyberforcejaguar" 
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> 
> was there a Major Force in the pre-Crisis canon or was that a 
> strickly post-Crisis invention?

Major Force was created in the post-Crisis CAPTAIN ATOM series and 
was a new character, so no, there wasn't any Major Force in the 
Charlton Cpt. Atom.

Doc


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> Is it just me, or do a lot of people who like Charlton comics like 
> Tower comics too?

I can only speak for myself, but there is definitely an attraction 
for both of these defunct comics firms. Along with Harvey, Red 
Circle, Dell, Gold Key, Atlas-Seaboard, and a few others Charlton was 
the counter to the "Big 2" (of course Marvel and DC). Actually in the 
early Silver Age there was only the Big 1 (National soon to become 
DC) but by the late 60' and certainly by the time Kirby left Marvel 
had caught up. For comics fans looking for something different 
Charlton was one of the few places to look. During the 60's lots of 
companies (Tower perhaps most successfully critically) tried to 
recapture the Marvel success, but ultimately they failed. Before the 
advent of Independents and the Comics Shop fans were very, very 
limited in their options for comics. Charlton and to an extent Tower 
represented another way of doing business. There was from time to 
time a very neat enthusiasm at that Derby company.

Dean



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Is anyone else here in our group (other than moi, I mean)---a Green 
Hornet fan? 
The reason I ask is, I just yesterday received a back issue package I 
had ordered from one of my comics dealers. This package contained 
Bill Black's Fun Comics vol.1 #1 (a b & w fanzine with b & w 
cover,too, from 1980 from Paragon Publications---pre-AC), that is 
listed in the guide, and Red Circle Mighty Crusaders #8 and Red 
Circle Sorcery #8. The reason I mention it: I ordered Red Circle 
Sorcery#8 because inside and also on the cover is a character called 
The Cobra. This is his only appearance. He looks pretty-well exactly 
like...(drum roll, please...)...The Green Hornet.
Cool book, with art by the late Gray Morrow. I recommend this book to 
both Gray Morrow AND Green Hornet fans.

Also, AC Comics' Bill Black was kind enough to email me back with a 
lot of info on early 1970's up to 1980 publications that Paragon 
Publications put out; titles, etc,etc,etc. I was informed that 
available soon at www.accomics.com will be a CD we can buy showing 
cover scans of all the (none in guide, except for Fun Comics) Paragon 
Publications that were published. A future additional CD (in the 
works now) will have all Paragon Covers AND CONTENTS EG: INSIDES!
Phil Latter


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Is anyone else here in our group (other than moi, I mean)---a Green 
> Hornet fan? 
> The reason I ask is, I just yesterday received a back issue package 
I 
> had ordered from one of my comics dealers. This package contained 
> Bill Black's Fun Comics vol.1 #1 (a b & w fanzine with b & w 
> cover,too, from 1980 from Paragon Publications---pre-AC), that is 
> listed in the guide, and Red Circle Mighty Crusaders #8 and Red 
> Circle Sorcery #8. The reason I mention it: I ordered Red Circle 
> Sorcery#8 because inside and also on the cover is a character 
called 
> The Cobra. This is his only appearance. He looks pretty-well 
exactly 
> like...(drum roll, please...)...The Green Hornet.
> Cool book, with art by the late Gray Morrow. I recommend this book 
to 
> both Gray Morrow AND Green Hornet fans.
> 
> Also, AC Comics' Bill Black was kind enough to email me back with a 
> lot of info on early 1970's up to 1980 publications that Paragon 
> Publications put out; titles, etc,etc,etc. I was informed that 
> available soon at www.accomics.com will be a CD we can buy showing 
> cover scans of all the (none in guide, except for Fun Comics) 
Paragon 
> Publications that were published. A future additional CD (in the 
> works now) will have all Paragon Covers AND CONTENTS EG: INSIDES!
> Phil Latter






...When did Red Circle Sorcery #8 come out ? I'll assume that the " 
knock off " is more in the looks , and he'd be more supernatural in 
his powers/methods/situations/enemies . 
  Recently , it's come across 2 me how totally the Crimson Avenger , 
in his original 30s/40s incarnation , was DC's knock-off of th' 
Hornet...gas gun..." Oriental " assistant...newspaper publisher in 
real life...thought 2B a crook as the Avenger ! DC's introducing a 
new CRimson Avenger in the current story arc in JSA - I'm behind on 
the title , so , I've just seen one/two pages of her - Over at 
Fanzing , the chief guy is enthusiastic about her .


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In reply: Sorcery#8 came out in April of 1964 from Red Circle Comics. 
#8 is The Cobra's only appearance. As I said, he looks almost exactly 
like Green Hornet. In this comic, he is a kind of pulp/supernatural 
character who shoots and kills bad guys/slimeballs. In the story 
(drawn by the late Gray Morrow, who also drew this really cool cover 
of The Cobra), this older civilian in the story wrote COBRA pulp 
novels in the 1930's and 1940's. What happens is, The Cobra, a pulp 
character (obviously largely inspired by Green Hornet)---COMES TO 
LIFE, and starts killing bad guys. Cool story. There are also 
separate stories in this issue by Alex Toth and also one by Frank 
Thorne, plus still another, 4th story, by someone I haven't heard of. 
Great Book!

Yes, National's Crimson Avenger, in the cloak and hat was largely 
inspired by characters of the day like The Shadow, The Spider, etc.
Phil Latter


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Didn't you mean 1974, instead of '64?


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Big Al-yes, you are correct. I did mean to say that Sorcery#8 from 
Red Circle came out in April of 1974, not 1964. My typo earlier. 
Sorry.
Phil


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Well no, not really. ;-)  But here's an LA Times article about the 
reclusive Mr. Ditko--

http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Print-X!
ArticleDetail-57463,00.html?

No Charlton content but an interesting look at the man who was so 
responsible for Charlton's 1960s successes.

Bruce
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Hi! I tried that link to find the New York Times Steve Ditko article, 
but that link on your email does not work! Can you give us some 
highlights on the article. I assume he was not interviewed since 
Ditko does not give interviews. I've always felt it odd how, in his 
shyness (or whatever he calls it)---he shuns his fans.....
Thanks
Phil


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hi! I tried that link to find the New York Times Steve Ditko 
article, 
> but that link on your email does not work! Can you give us some 
> highlights on the article. I assume he was not interviewed since 
> Ditko does not give interviews. I've always felt it odd how, in his 
> shyness (or whatever he calls it)---he shuns his fans.....
> Thanks
> Phil

http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Print-X!
ArticleDetail-57463,00.html?

If the live link doesn't work, try copying & pasting it into your 
browser.

Bruce





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The problem is that this is the entire link:

http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Print-X! 
ArticleDetail-57463,00.html

The exclaimation point seems to break the thing up and render it 
useless. It did work to paste the WHOLE THING into my browser.

Feelin' geeky, Bill



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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "daglob" <daglob@y...> wrote:
> The problem is that this is the entire link:
> 
> http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Print-X! 
> ArticleDetail-57463,00.html
> 
> The exclaimation point seems to break the thing up and render it 
> useless. It did work to paste the WHOLE THING into my browser.
> 
> Feelin' geeky, Bill






...That was interesting , and , 'twas innerestin' that it touched on 
my! ( Did I post it here ? Especially since I had this problem that 
forced me 2 rejoin as Joe Gould in th' foist plaacee , I think I 
posted it and it didn't go up ?!?!?!?!?!? ) noting the creator 
credit - but , interesting that the Marvel guy quoted took a " It was 
our decision , and we don't have 2 do it " tack . The movie ad 
credits Stan 'n' Steve - Movie credits are , ENDLESSLY , hacked , 
aruged , over , and I'm sure the movie credit is contractually set in 
stone now . The X-Men movie had none , and no credits resulted in th' 
book , either - 'Course , Ditko never sued Marvel , did he ??????? ( 
Did Stan ever sue Marvel when that " getting fired/hired back as ' 
publisher emeritus ' thing - which I never heard about till a while 
after it happened - happened ??????? ) See what NICE things the 
philosophies of Ayn R. can lead you to ??????? Just trust your 
corporate big guys , They Are Your Friends ( And Really Swell Folks , 
Too . ) !!!!!!!
  Something about th' Spidey-reation NOT touched upon here was the 
role that an early version of the Fly - the Archie character , yes , 
but dating from before Archie's acqiring of it - played in the 
development of the Sidey concept .
  Some years back , the Greg Theakston PURE IMAGINATION comic/mag 
devoted most of an issue to detailing this - Basically , an early 
version of the Fly/Tommy Troy ( which had C. C. Beck attached 2 it at 
one time , ) had some elements that were , mostly , gone by the time 
that the Archie Fly reached the stands - But , this reached Marvel's 
offices , eventually , and had some influence on Spidey/Peter's 
development . The article didn't present this as a grand 
conspiracy/theft , it didn't say that , and , it backed it up purty 
well , as best I can remember , though I don't have it 
anymore...Anybody else remember this ?????????
  I don't envy the junior reporter assigned to seek out Ditko ! Then 
again , given his dislike of publicity , I don't , entirely , envy 
Sturdy Steve , either - he's gettin' some $ , isn't he , since the 
movie is involved , right ?????????


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...Like I said already !!!!!!!!!


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Tom Sutton, the creator of more stories for Charlton than anyone can 
count has died. The news is still sketchy (and I desparately hope not 
a hoax, though I would gladly suffer being fooled if this turned out 
not to true) but apparently he had a heart attack. Little more was 
available. 

Sutton was certainly a favorite of mine. His quirky and fluid style 
made Charlton ghost comics something very special indeed in the 70's. 
His painted covers gave the whole line a distinctive look of quality 
which truth be told belied the interiors in many cases. 

Sutton will be missed.

Dean


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Seems like he did The art on the "Crime Crusher" story for Eerie 'way 
back when. It was one of my favories, along with (I think) a Marvel 
story about a guy who puts himself in suspended animation, and what 
he find when he wakes up (the last page was FANTASTIC!).

I always wondered why, when Warren was trying to have series 
characters (Shreck, Coffin, The Mummy, Rook, the robot assassin by 
Paul Neary), why they didn't ressurrect Crime Crusher. I think he was 
sufficiently different from Bat-Man to make a go of it.

Bill


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Tom Sutton was a great one and the whole comics industry is poorer 
for the loss.  If memory servers correctly Tom was the first artist 
to do Vampirella.  And I remember reading an interview a long time 
ago where he said that during the Warren days he would experiment 
with magic markers for his inking, even going so far as using some 
that were almost dried up.  Just trying to see what different kinds 
of line and texture he could get.  
He never seemed to do a bad job for Charlton.  All his work was 
highly original and very enjoyable to look at.  And then there was 
that story that he put so much detail and hard work into that 
Charlton published it in black and white because they thought color 
would ruin it.
I don't think anyone can replace him.



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Sutton was the absolute best at evoking that Lovecraftian feel in his 
stories. No artist ever came as close to getting that feel of decay 
and twisted morality which inform much of the Lovecraft ouvre. 

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Sutton was the absolute best at evoking that Lovecraftian feel in 
his 
> stories. No artist ever came as close to getting that feel of decay 
> and twisted morality which inform much of the Lovecraft ouvre. 
> 
> Dean


I was saddened to hear of his death. I remember if memory serves a 
Seeker 3000 story which lasted one issue and it was done by Tom 
Sutton.  I remember some horror backup story work he did in one of 
those 70's reprints.  I wish that some type of paperback representing 
his best work could be published.  With all the paper wastes on stuff 
like X Men the least that they could do is a tribute to him with his 
best stories. 


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Hi folks. I have lately been chatting with charlton bullseye member 
in good standing Jim Cooke. We have been discussing the one shot 
comic magazine GALAXIA MAGAZINE#1 with art by Rick Buckler, which was 
published around 1980 and 1981, that we each have in our respective 
collections. I thought folks here in this forum might like to know 
about this item as well. 
When Atlas Comics went out of business in 1975 or thereabouts, ONE OF 
THE ATLAS CHARACTERS LIVED ON, IN DIFFERENT INCARNATIONS!

That character was DEMON HUNTER, FROM DEMON HUNTER#1 put out by 
Atlas, a one-shot. About 6 years later, Rick Buckler put out GALAXIA 
MAGAZINE#1. It was an anthology comic book , mag-sized, b and w with 
colour cover! And what a cover. Buckler and Giordano teamed up for 
this multi part cover. Featured prominently on the cover (and in a 
NEW story inside, which can be considered to be a sequel to DEMON 
HUNTER #!, was-yes! A new Demon Hunter story! The character sported 
the exact same costume, and the exact same secret identity-Gideon 
Cross. However, the costume's colour scheme had changed. No longer 
red, it was blue, with orange gloves and red cape. Whereas, as Demon 
Hunter at Atlas Comics it had been red, with blue cape, white gloves 
and collar. Also, the character was renamed Bloodwing. And what a 
well-done story it was. Galaxia was planned for a regular title, but 
sources tell me only #1 came out, even though #2 and it's cover (in 
many Red Circle superhero titles) was advertised. Galaxia is not in 
the guide. It is possible #2 did come out. Dealers do not seem to be 
sure. 

Some years later, the character was revised and taken to Marvel, and 
the costume was changed slighly. Now the character was called Devil 
Slayer. Does anyone else here have Galaxia#1 in their collection? 
And, does anyone know if #2 actually ever came out?

Phil Latter


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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] GALAXIA MAGAZINE RICK BUCKLER

Some years later, the character was revised and taken to Marvel, and 
the costume was changed slighly. Now the character was called Devil 
Slayer. Does anyone else here have Galaxia#1 in their collection? 
And, does anyone know if #2 actually ever came out?

Phil Latter

Actually, Phil, Buckler took Demon Hunter to Marvel's Defenders after Atlas/Seaboard
caved.

It was after the Defenders stint that Buckler put out Galaxia.

Yes, I have Galaxia #1 somewhere.  I never saw issue #2.  I picked up #1 at a comic con,
and at the time I was helping out a friend of mine who distributed comics to comic shops, and
he never received Galaxia to begin with.  I'm thinking it didn't get very wide distribution.

At a Marvel panel, headed by Jim Shooter, I asked how it was that Buckler was able to take
this character from Atlas to Marvel to indie publishing.  Shooter looked like a deer in the headlights.
Someone else on the panel explained to to him.  He just said, "Sorry" and took the next question.

I'm told that there was some discussion about it in the Comic Book Artist issue on Atlas/Seaboard.

--Ed


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I also am the proud owner of the very odd but oddly good Galaxia 
magazine. I've never seen a 2nd issue and I don't think such an 
animal exists.

The Demon Hunter variations do clearly seem to be the same character 
with only modest alterations in mileau and/or costume, but I always 
just assumed those changes were sufficient to clear the copywrite 
problems. Since it was Buckler in each case who developed the 
characters (of course Devil Slayer was handled by Ed Hannigan in 
those Defender issues, but before that Buckler had surfaced the 
character in a B&W magazine I think) I guess that also contributes to 
the argument as to whey they are so similar. The same could well be 
said for Chaykin's Dominic Fortune who at least visually is the same 
as Moro Frost of Scorpion fame.  

Some of the material in Galaxia was reprinted several years ago in a 
regular sized comic called The Forever Warriors. There was a new 
script applied to the Buckler artwork. I will have to pull out the 
comics and look more closely to say anything more definitive. Roy 
Thomas had a hand in the rewrite I think, as that was a major draw in 
my purchasing the comic. 

Didn't Galaxia have a religous aspect to its publication. I think 
there was some sort of religous message supposedly contained in the 
story. I'll check that.

Dean


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I own Galaxia 1 and notified Overstreet (I'm an advisor as of this 
year and have assisted with the magazine for the past three years) of 
its existence last summer. I haven't checked the Guide to see if it 
made it in this year or not.
I found a stash of Galaxia 1s in a comic shop in Morristown, Tenn., 
and bought one. My copy is still at my home in Tennessee so I don't 
have it in front of me. If I'm not mistaken, didn't the issue have art 
by some other good artists, too?
Anyway, it was nice to see Gideon Cross staying alive despite the 
demise of his original owner.
Mike Browning

--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hi folks. I have lately been chatting with charlton bullseye member 
> in good standing Jim Cooke. We have been discussing the one shot 
> comic magazine GALAXIA MAGAZINE#1 with art by Rick Buckler, which 
was 
> published around 1980 and 1981, that we each have in our respective 
> collections. I thought folks here in this forum might like to know 
> about this item as well. 
> When Atlas Comics went out of business in 1975 or thereabouts, ONE 
OF 
> THE ATLAS CHARACTERS LIVED ON, IN DIFFERENT INCARNATIONS!
> 
> That character was DEMON HUNTER, FROM DEMON HUNTER#1 put out by 
> Atlas, a one-shot. About 6 years later, Rick Buckler put out GALAXIA 
> MAGAZINE#1. It was an anthology comic book , mag-sized, b and w with 
> colour cover! And what a cover. Buckler and Giordano teamed up for 
> this multi part cover. Featured prominently on the cover (and in a 
> NEW story inside, which can be considered to be a sequel to DEMON 
> HUNTER #!, was-yes! A new Demon Hunter story! The character sported 
> the exact same costume, and the exact same secret identity-Gideon 
> Cross. However, the costume's colour scheme had changed. No longer 
> red, it was blue, with orange gloves and red cape. Whereas, as Demon 
> Hunter at Atlas Comics it had been red, with blue cape, white gloves 
> and collar. Also, the character was renamed Bloodwing. And what a 
> well-done story it was. Galaxia was planned for a regular title, but 
> sources tell me only #1 came out, even though #2 and it's cover (in 
> many Red Circle superhero titles) was advertised. Galaxia is not in 
> the guide. It is possible #2 did come out. Dealers do not seem to be 
> sure. 
> 
> Some years later, the character was revised and taken to Marvel, and 
> the costume was changed slighly. Now the character was called Devil 
> Slayer. Does anyone else here have Galaxia#1 in their collection? 
> And, does anyone know if #2 actually ever came out?
> 
> Ph


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Interesting. Thanks for the update. I actually suspect that Galaxia 
#2 never came out. If anyone can correct me-please do so! I would 
love to hear that #2 exists!
Phil


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Dean- thanks for the info about FOREVER WARRIORS. Never heard of 
it.Please provide further info. How many issues, date of publication, 
publisher, other features in it,etc-thanks. 
Yes and no to religious aspects in Galaxia. See, there was a paid 
text advertisement in the back of the book that had religious 
overtones, but I think it was just a paid advertisement from a 
church, mormons or what have you. I only just bought Galaxia #1 and 
read it last week, thus it is all still fresh in my memory.
Phil


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I'll have to pull the issue to be sure, but there was only one issue 
that I ever saw. It came out five years or so ago at the end of the 
mid-90's B&W self-publishing boom. I guess Buckler was trying to cash 
in on some of his existing product in that momentary market. It's a 
regular-size comic and features the Godwulf character from Galxia is 
memory serves. I'll get all the details later.

Dean


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(If I'm not mistaken, didn't the issue have art  by some other good 
artists, too? )

As I remember Mark Texiera was a contributer. The neat thing about 
the magazine is that a number of Buckler's "styles" are on display 
between a single set of covers. He does his Kirby, his Adams, and his 
own neat style within the comic. Buckler is a much overlooked and 
sadly maligned talent. Why do folks beat up on him, but give other 
Kirby clones like Larsen and Ladronn a pass. It makes little sense to 
me. (For the record, I like all of the aritsts I've just mentioned.)

Dean


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I glanced again at Galaxia last night, and my memory is correct. 
There is a distinct religous background to the material contained in 
this magazine. The introductory essay sheds some light on this aspect 
of the comic. Clearly this was an attempt to attach the struggle 
between good and evil to what is percieved to be a more realistic 
world struggle.

Dean


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While reading "Mad About Superheroes", I saw that Joe Staton included 
a cameo of Nova Kane!  I scanned the image and put it on my website 
at http://alectronn.homestead.com/misc.html

Rome


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Someone emailed me, wanting a Captain Atom commission 
drawn!   As soon as I can finish up my current comic work, I can 
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Loston


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As a conversation starter, I was looking through my vast collection 
last night, when I came upon two really cool old comics I had 
completely forgotten about. Several years ago, a friend gave me the 
two issues #1 and #2 of Skywald's HELLRIDER. These are pretty cool 
comics. Mag sized, b and w, white painted covers, they were, in the 
1960'2, drawn with a flourish by Ross Andru. Hellrider was a 
costumed, masked and helmeted motorcyclist superhero , and the front 
of the motorcycle had a flame thrower. Hellrider, billed as "The NOW 
superhero!", would often burn to death the rapist, killer whatever in 
the story with the bike's flamethrower. His motorcycle helmet had a 
built in mask as PART OF the helmet. There were only 2 issues, full 
nudity of females in the art was common, and they were pretty well 
done. The backup strip was about THE BUTTERFLY, a black female 
nightclub singer who was a superhero by night in her masked, winged 
and very revealing costume. These are well worth seeking out.
Phil Latter


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I had issue #1 of Hellrider; I thought it was from the early '70s (or 
maybe that's when I found it). I frequently complain about the 
magazine distribution here in Mobile, Alabama, but it is often 
puzzling to note what comics DO show up here. I keep waiting for 
issue #2 of D'Arc Tangent.


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I found both of these wild comics a few years back. I think it was 
the Ross Andru artwork that drew me in and they couldn't have cost 
too much so I added them to my collection. They were yet another 
attempt to market comics to a slightly older audience and as has been 
noted the situations were definitely of a "mature" nature. The 
Butterfly I think was memorialized several years ago as having one of 
the worst costumes in all of comics history. I don't remember it 
being that bad.

Dean


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To all who are interested (my sincere apologies to the rest!),

Mike Ambrose, publisher of Charlton Spotlight magazine, has just announced 
that his new issue is due a few days from now.

Since the magazine is a must-have for all Charlton fans specifically, and 
all comic fans generally, I thought you would like to know. See below for 
more details.

Go on, go out and order a copy! Better yet, stay indoors and use the net!

Regards,
Ramon



>Hello All,
>
>If you're into Charlton Comics, this magazine is for you: CHARLTON 
>SPOTLIGHT
>#2 is now at the printer and will ship by May 31. Exploring the history of
>the Charlton Comics Group, the new issue offers an exciting array of
>features, including--
>
>--Interview with BILL BLACK. Bill talks about the covers he drew for
>Charlton and the classic reprints in his AC Comics. With rare and
>unpublished art!
>
>--RON FRANTZ recounts a 1987 trip to the Charlton offices in Derby, CT,
>pursuing a deal with Capital Distributing for Ron's ACE Comics line. Ron
>meets such colorful figures as Steve Ditko, Frank McLaughlin, Joe Gill, 
>Dick
>Giordano, and Charles Santangelo. With rare photos of the Charlton plant!
>
>--Remembering PAT BOYETTE, Part 2: MARTY BAUMANN of "Crater Kid" fame gives
>us a memoir of collaborating with Pat on what would be Pat's last work in
>comics. Plus another page of new and corrected entries for the mammoth
>Boyette Index in Charlton Spotlight #1 and scads of obscure, rare, and
>unpublished Boyette art in comics and film!
>
>--also: RON FORTIER and GARY KATO talk about creating one of Charlton's 
>last
>superheroes, MR. JIGSAW! Charlton Classic Reprint by JOE SHUSTER from 1954!
>A Charlton YEAR-BY-YEAR CHECKLIST (1944-1954), with rare  covers! Letters,
>news, and reviews!
>
>Altogether it's 40 black-and-white, 8.5x11-inch pages of Charlton Comics
>wonderment! Price per copy is $5.95, postpaid to the U.S. ($6.50 to Canada,
>$12 elsewhere), check/MO in U.S. funds payable to Argo Press, or credit 
>card
>through PayPal to mikeargo@flash.net.
>
>BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE: Subscribe now for two issues ($11/$12/$24) and get
>an uncirculated warehouse copy of Pat Boyette's THE COSMIC BOOK #1 as a
>BONUS, courtesy of and thanks to Ron Frantz, its original publisher! While
>supplies last! (Current subscribers get one too!)
>
>Thanks for reading, and I hope you'll join me in exploring the weird and
>wonderful world of Charlton Comics in CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #2!
>
>--------------------------------------
>Michael Ambrose
>Charlton Spotlight
>Argo Press
>PO Box 4201
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>http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/default.htm
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Hello Everybody,

In part two of the Charlton issue (the 1970's) that Comic Book Artist 
did so wonderfully, George Wildman said in his interview that he said 
that the only time he used Filipino artists was on some romance 
titles only. I'm a huge fan of the detailed work of the Filipino 
artists an was wondering if anybody knew of any titles that he was 
talking about? Or any of the issues? I would love to find some art by 
Santos/Redondo/Alcala/Coching/Nino that I haven't seen before!! ??? 


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Well Doc,

I have checklists for a lot of artists, but not the ones you mention here. 
Any other names you want to throw at me?

Ramon

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>Hello Everybody,
>
>In part two of the Charlton issue (the 1970's) that Comic Book Artist
>did so wonderfully, George Wildman said in his interview that he said
>that the only time he used Filipino artists was on some romance
>titles only. I'm a huge fan of the detailed work of the Filipino
>artists an was wondering if anybody knew of any titles that he was
>talking about? Or any of the issues? I would love to find some art by
>Santos/Redondo/Alcala/Coching/Nino that I haven't seen before!! ???


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Thanks for the tip Ramon. I've already got my order on its way in the 
old snail mail. These magazines by Michael Ambrose are the absolute 
best, and rare treats for any Charlton fan!

Dean


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Ramon, Thanks for trying!! But the only ones I was wondering about 
were the Filipino artists that Wildman mentioned in his interview. I 
guess I'll have to track down some romance issues and check it out 
for myself.  I'm looking forward to Comic Book Artist #22, because it 
is going to be an entire issue about Gold Key comics. Nice to see 
some of the major comic magazines getting away from DC and Marvel for 
a change. Cheers-


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It looks like Blue Beetle and Captain Atom will be getting together 
again in a DC mini-series later this year. Keith Giffen is being 
given the chance to reunite some of those heroes he made into the 
Justice League back in the late 80's. It sounds like the book will be 
a lot of fun. 

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All I'm saying: there'd better be a certain lady named Nightshade in 
there!!!

Ramon


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Ramon Schenk" <ramonschenk@h...> wrote:
> All I'm saying: there'd better be a certain lady named Nightshade 
in 
> there!!!
> 
> Ramon
> 

So long as it's the REAL Nightshade, not that shadow of her former 
self LAW turned her into.

Gettin' old and cranky, Bill


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I doubt we'll be seeing Nightshade. She was part of the Suicide Squad 
of course, but I don't think she has made any appearances in that 
recently revived and even more recently cancelled comic. The Justice 
League members involved will likely be Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, 
Fire, Booster Gold, and others to be named later. I suspect Martian 
Manhunter will play a big role. But alas I don' expect any other 
Charlton heroes to make the book. 

Dean


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I'm also looking very much forward to the Gold Key issue. Before that 
though I think Harvey comics is getting the CBA treatment. That issue 
too should have some neat old images and behind-the-scenes secrets 
for us.

The Tower Comics issue was a lot of fun. On a related note, I just 
read that DC is going to issue archive editions of the Thunder Agents 
with volumes featuring Dynamo and Noman to follow. One would hope 
that some of the Charlton material they hold the rights to would also 
get this kind of treatment. We did get that one Captain Atom story 
last year, but since then...nuthin!

Dean


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Talking about reprints... Just thought you'd be interested to know AC comics 
did a reprint of Charlton's Mercury Man last year in Men of Mystery #32. It 
is still available from AC.
I'm in the process of discussing the possibility of publishing a second 
Mercury Man story with AC's publisher, Bill Black.

Ramon


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>I'm also looking very much forward to the Gold Key issue. Before that
>though I think Harvey comics is getting the CBA treatment. That issue
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How DID people feel about the treatment Nightshade got in Suicide Squad (the 
original series)? I really liked the series, but disliked the way in which 
NS was treated in the later issues. John Ostrander (the writer) really liked 
writing that series, and there was a crossover with Cap A sometime, but he 
did not really show a great deal of respect for the former Charlton Chick 
(no disrespect intended!) IMHO!

Ramon

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>I doubt we'll be seeing Nightshade. She was part of the Suicide Squad
>of course, but I don't think she has made any appearances in that
>recently revived and even more recently cancelled comic. The Justice
>League members involved will likely be Blue Beetle, Captain Atom,
>Fire, Booster Gold, and others to be named later. I suspect Martian
>Manhunter will play a big role. But alas I don' expect any other
>Charlton heroes to make the book.
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It's not really fair for me to criticize as I didn't follow the 
series and I've only read a few issues here and there and the Secret 
Origins issue in which Nightshade appeared. 

Of the many Charlton heroes which have appeared Nightshade had the 
least development (with the possible exception of The Question who 
had lots of Ditko dopplegangers to enrich his presumed backstory). 
Jim Aparo's handling of the other-dimensional beauty was the most 
distinctive aspect of the back-up series. I didn't get all that much 
from the Captain Atom team-ups outside of the sheer fun of the 
stories themselves. 

They certainly couldn't have corrupted her more than they did The 
Peacemaker (the hero who gets NO respect at all). Moore's Watchman 
derided and mocked the hero too.

Dean 


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Do you know if it is the first or second adventure of the forgotten 
Mercury Man that was reprinted in that AC issue? I have the first 
adventure, but not the second. It is scanned in the photos section 
here somewhere, but I still would love to have a hard copy of the 
story.

Dean


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The first. Send me your address off-list, and I will send you copies.
Ramon


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>Do you know if it is the first or second adventure of the forgotten
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You might want to take a moment and check out the Bookmarks section. 
I took several minutes and cleaned out several broken links and made 
the links fit more comfortably in the Bookmark format. See a Chalton 
link that needs to added, by all means do so.

Dean


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Dean,
Two of my sites still link to the old URLs. Although there is plenty to see 
there, they won't be updated!

These are:

http://users.raketnet.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight

Which should be:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight

Same goes for:

http://users.raketnet.nl/charltoncomics

Which should be:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics

I don't know how to change bookmarks, just create them. Can you tell me, or 
otherwise change them for me? Thanks!

Ramon

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>You might want to take a moment and check out the Bookmarks section.
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Imagine my surprise when I found a Yahoo group devoted to The Many 
Ghosts of Dr. Graves (among others).  It was my favorite comic to 
read when I was at my grandfather's house, untill he went and threw 
them all away (sound familiar?). It must have taken me 10 years to 
remember the title of the book, I rememberd Dr. Graves but not that 
his name was in the title.  Is it just me or does our Doc bear a 
striking similarity to Dr. Strange?



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Glad to have you with us. Thankfully my Blessed Mother never threw 
out my comics. Because we lived so far out of the small town in which 
the drugstore was located she took my weekly list and graciously went 
and bought (at least some) of the books I so desparately wanted. The 
fact I still fool with them puzzles her, but she and my dad are happy 
that comics were my only mind-altering experience.

Dr.Graves is something like Dr.Strange admittedly. I don't really 
know that there is a direct connection between the two, but frankly 
Dr. Milo Tempus Graves is cooler.

Dean


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I tried to update the bookmarks as you indicated, but it didn't seem 
to work. I'll try again at a later date to get those changed. I've 
also tried to e-mail you with my work address, but I'm not sure it 
went through. Thanks for the offer by the way.

Dean


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One of the things I remember best about the good Doctor is his sense 
of humor.  Looking back on it now it seems like it might not be so 
unique, he's a little like a low-key version of the Crypt Keeper and 
I assume that there have been others.  

I also remember how much better written those old comics were than 
the new ones, at least the new ones I was reading at 13.  I don't 
have any Dr. Graves comics now, can you suggest a good place to find 
some?  I specifically remember one where an old man had some way of 
posessing the body of a convict and then he got the tables turned on 
him, sound familiar?

Greg


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Dean,
On other lists, I have had no trouble changing bookmarks. Perhaps it will 
work after a few days.
My e-mailaddress has not been down or anything, so you should be able to 
reach me just fine. Did you check spelling?

Ramon


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>I tried to update the bookmarks as you indicated, but it didn't seem
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I don't have any outlets off hand to buy some good Dr.Graves, but if 
you want to get a pretty decent look at the covers check out Ramon 
Schenk's website Weird Comics. There are a couple of links to his 
site in the Bookmarks section and I just added a direct link to the 
Charlton covers yesterday. 

Dean


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Just in case, you can find my website here:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/default.htm

Or the Charlton section here:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics

Reactions/complaints more than welcome!!!

Ramon

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>I don't have any outlets off hand to buy some good Dr.Graves, but if
>you want to get a pretty decent look at the covers check out Ramon
>Schenk's website Weird Comics. There are a couple of links to his
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I tried it again, and it worked! So consider your bookmarks updated 
Ramon! Glad to do it.

Dean


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Thanks, Dean!
Now, all of you, enter some more links to all your favorite Charlton 
sites!!!
Ramon


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Which of the classic Charlton heroes would be best served in the 
novel format?

The Question seems to me the best suited to a pure prose format. His 
stories were always particularly wordy, and the action was minimal. 
Philosophy guided his mission as much if not more than pure force.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Which of the classic Charlton heroes would be best served in the 
> novel format?
> 
> The Question seems to me the best suited to a pure prose format. 
His 
> stories were always particularly wordy, and the action was minimal. 
> Philosophy guided his mission as much if not more than pure force.
> 
> Dean

Can't you just see a Peacemaker or Sarge Steel series along the lines 
of The Executioner? A Thunderbolt series similar to The Destroyer 
("Ah! Another pale piece of pig's ear that I am forced to waste my 
waning days in trying to change into a human being. Well, at least 
this one knows the rudiments of Sinanju.")? Or a fantasy series about 
Nightshade and her visits to the Shadow Realm? Judomaster would have 
been a shoo-in during the kung fu craze (I remember "Son of the 
Flying Tiger" with cover art by Barry Smith, and some series by Piers 
Anthony).
Probably The Question wouldn't work for the reasons you state that it 
WOULD. However... If it were done as a mystery, with The Question 
doing detective work in BOTH identities (for the life of me I can't 
remember The Question's real name at this minute), the investigative 
reporter interviewing the "straight" characters in the story, and The 
Question interrogating the crooks, then him sitting down and putting 
together the picture from BOTH sides, it might. The philosophy would 
be his motivation in doing this, and could be spelled out in the 
text, or implied in his actions. There was a little of this in the 
original series. The reporter's weapons were his words, while The 
Question occasionally used his fists. I'm reminded of a statement by 
H. Beam Piper in answer to Isaac Asimov's "Violence is the last 
resort of the incompetent" to the effect that violence is, however, 
all some people understand. 

That leaves poor Captain Atom all alone, faintly phosphorescing in he 
dark...

Bill


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To answer that query, The Question's secret identity was Vic Sage. 
That is to say, before DC in their (lack of) wisdom decided to change 
it to "Victor szage" or some such. 

But, to meander waaaay off topic for a minute,....a few months ago, a 
good friend of mine in Toronto told me that he had bought a 
(Quality/DC character) rather beat up, used copy of a Blackhawk prose 
(text) novel paperback, "The only copy he has ever seen."

Having consulted with numerous dealers, NONE of whom has ever heard 
of this item, it turns out that it is rare indeed. For, it had been 
hitherfor previously, totally UNKNOWN TO EXIST. My friend bought it 
in a second hand store!!!

I know there was a Ron Goulart-written (dc) challengers of the 
unknown text novel in the late 1970's or thereabouts (I have one in 
mint in my own collection), but I never, ever heard of a Blackhawk 
novel. Have you???

Phil Latter

My question is, has anyone else here ever heard of this item????

Phil Latter


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Vic Sage! Thanks. I kept thinking "Jack Ryder? No, that's The 
Creeper. Rex Mason? Wait! That's Metamorpho. Dane Dorrance was the 
leader of The Sea Devils, Rip Hunter was he Time Master, but what was 
Tomahawk's real name? Damn."

I think I've seen a Blackhawk novel. A search of ABEBooks with the 
keyword "Blackhawk" turns up a likely suspect:

Rotsler, William "Blackhawk"   
NY: Warner Books, 1982 Illustrated Wraps. Mass Market Paperback. 

Hmmmm. Can't you see a team up between Vic Sage and Jack Ryder, let 
alone The Question and The Creeper?







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  Hi, i will be at the San Diego show in a few weeks. Hope to find 
some early Charlton stuff once again. Hope to meet up with some of 
you at the show. Keep in touch. Thanks, Ron


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> But, to meander waaaay off topic for a minute,....a few months ago, 
a 
> good friend of mine in Toronto told me that he had bought a 
> (Quality/DC character) rather beat up, used copy of a Blackhawk 
prose 
> (text) novel paperback, "The only copy he has ever seen."
> 
> Having consulted with numerous dealers, NONE of whom has ever heard 
> of this item, it turns out that it is rare indeed. For, it had been 
> hitherfor previously, totally UNKNOWN TO EXIST. My friend bought it 
> in a second hand store!!!
> 
> I know there was a Ron Goulart-written (dc) challengers of the 
> unknown text novel in the late 1970's or thereabouts (I have one in 
> mint in my own collection), but I never, ever heard of a Blackhawk 
> novel. Have you???
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> My question is, has anyone else here ever heard of this item????
> 
> Phil Latter


Yep. I first heard of it from the Blackhawk Comics Home Page, 
actually, and I've always wanted to find a copy for myself. Here's a 
page from the Blackhawk website I mentioned, which has as much 
information on the novel as anyone could find on the internet at 
present:

http://ourworlds.topcities.com/blackhawk/media/blk_novl.htm

Doc


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I did a search on abebooks.com and found several copies, ranging in price 
from $3.95 to $20 (!). Have fun!
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Go here:

http://www.villainsupply.com/index.html

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  With all the discussion of comic book novels...How about them 
( " paperback "-style ones . ) , anyway ????????? Likewise , 
'twas that Blackhawk page that informed me of the Blackhawk 
one . 
  George Lowther's 1940's Superman one ( Reissued a few 
years back when I was sans cash , drat th' cus'd luck ! )
is the " daddy of 'em all " , I guess , with the mid-60s likes of 
Batman And The Three Villians Of Doom ( read it - a long time 
ago . ) and Captain America - The Great Gold Steal , and an 
Avengers one ( didn't . ) , sort of SA markers . 
  ( To take this even further OT , a non-heroic fondly held in my 
memory are two DC House Of Mystery paperbacks , written by 
Jack Oleck ( w/illos-covers by B. Wrightson . ) , novelizing DC 
horror stories - wish DC'd reish 'em !!!!!!!!! )
  I'm , here , trying to stick to " regular " ( in-theory , ) " adult " 
audience ( meaning , no specific " Young Adult " , or BLBs , etc. ) 
books , but not KAVILER & CLAY-type books set in the comics 
industry , or " ironic " looks at SHs ( or " realistic " SF ones , either 
! ) or , such artsy oddities as this KRAZY KAT book that I once 
took out ( and a similar Tintin one ) , which I still mean to read 
one day , whatever their merits - regular " genre " ones , perhaps 
we could , at least at th' start stick with . As for movie adaptations 
, well , P. David's SPIDEY movie adapt's , possibly , the last one 
I've read , so , maybe...
  These Blackhawk and Challangers ones appear to've been a 
product of an about-th'time'-o' th' SUPERMAN movie DC push 
that lead , most prominently , to a couple of Elliot S! Maggin Big 
Blue novels that some remember quite fondly . 
  Maggin reappeared , again , recently . w/a Kingdom Come 
novelization that I read and enjoyed ( Sort of forgetting th' details 
now , ) no doubt for the extra trivia . '90s-ward , DC , also , had 
adaptations of th' Death/Rebirth of Superman , and Batman 
Breaks His Back - didn't read 'em - and the 
Gotham City No Man' s Land - read it , okay , basically hadn't 
read the comics at all at the time I read it .
  Marvel's been suprisingly active in th' Nineties , putting out - Is it 
still active ? I THINK so ? - A Berkley program , which has run 
into more than two score , most/all of them claiming to be set in 
Marvel continuity , even to the extent of a timeline in the backs of 
them ! ( I've , recently , seen/seen reviewed a Spider-Man trilogy - 
at least one in hardcover , and one by Adam Troy-Castro - set in 
the mid-Nineties " Aunt May fish food " ( You know thaose 
Queens cemeteries ! ) period , so , I guess th' novel program's 
still active ??????? ) Under the Great Franchise Expansion 
Concepts Of Our Time heading , I saw - and did NOT buy , thank 
you very much - a two-part X-Men/Star Trek ( TNG version . ) novel 
! I've red about 1/2 dozen of the Berk/Marvels , including an 
Avengers/Thunderbolts one , and , about two Spideys ( NOT the 
current trilogy referred to above , if I didn't make that clear enough 
. )  


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After a long hiatus, E-Man is finally updated!  I have updated my 
misc. gallery and my story review page.  Please check them out.

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Thanks for the info! Your site is gorgeous and it was a treat to see 
some odd E-Man artwork I haven't yet seen (In particular the cover to 
the Charlton Bullseye, which is the only E-Man story I don't have in 
the original. It was nice to get a glimpse of book itself.).

Dean


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I found this oddity yesterday in a dollar bin. This comic was part of 
the mid-80's Charlton revival along with Atomic Mouse, Timmy the 
Timid Ghost, and L'l Genius among others. The lead story featuring 
the title characters is by Al Fago and is very entertaining if 
strangely paced. There are a number of other features including a 
Timmy the Timid Ghost one-page which features his mom (?). Timmy also 
makes an appearance in a Lyin' Lion feature. Atomic Rabbit is also on 
hand in a little feature. This was a pretty good comic all things 
being equal. 

Does anyone happen to know where Punchy and the Black Crow originally 
appeared?

Overstreet shows that two more issues were done, #11 and #12. Does 
anyone know right off if in fact those issues do exist?

Dean


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 Thanks Dean, I am glad you liked it!
Rome
  sonofvulcan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks for the info! Your site is gorgeous and it was a treat to see 
some odd E-Man artwork I haven't yet seen (In particular the cover to 
the Charlton Bullseye, which is the only E-Man story I don't have in 
the original. It was nice to get a glimpse of book itself.).

Dean


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Hi folks!
I haven't gotten any posts from the Charlton Bullseye site nor Atlas 
site in quite some time. My question is, is there a problem, or is 
nobody posting anymore? 
The reason I ask is: I got a recent email stating that there IS a 
problem, that we should reply to the email but leave it blank (which 
I did several times.) I did not get a return reply, nor is the 
problem fixed---at least not to my email address: 
CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM

Does anyone know what is going on? Dean-?
Thanks. 
Phil Latter


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 I am here!  I got your message and I am replying, let's see if this works.
 
Rome
  chromium_foil <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi folks!
I haven't gotten any posts from the Charlton Bullseye site nor Atlas 
site in quite some time. My question is, is there a problem, or is 
nobody posting anymore? 
The reason I ask is: I got a recent email stating that there IS a 
problem, that we should reply to the email but leave it blank (which 
I did several times.) I did not get a return reply, nor is the 
problem fixed---at least not to my email address: 
CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM

Does anyone know what is going on? Dean-?
Thanks. 
Phil Latter


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I'm the moderator of both places and I have no inkling of any 
problems as you describe. The activity in both groups has been pretty 
sparse of late, and that more than anything else is the likely 
problem. Glad to hear from you.

Dean


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It's the smae in most groups. I was beginning to think I was the only 
one on the THUNDER Agents group...


--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I'm the moderator of both places and I have no inkling of any 
> problems as you describe. The activity in both groups has been 
pretty 
> sparse of late, and that more than anything else is the likely 
> problem. Glad to hear from you.
> 
> Dean


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I have an issue or two of Atomic Mouse and others. Unless I miss my 
guess, though, aren't those all reprints of 1950s funny animal 
comics? I don't think there was any actual new material there.

Doc

--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., sonofvulcan <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I found this oddity yesterday in a dollar bin. This comic was part 
of 
> the mid-80's Charlton revival along with Atomic Mouse, Timmy the 
> Timid Ghost, and L'l Genius among others. The lead story featuring 
> the title characters is by Al Fago and is very entertaining if 
> strangely paced. There are a number of other features including a 
> Timmy the Timid Ghost one-page which features his mom (?). Timmy 
also 
> makes an appearance in a Lyin' Lion feature. Atomic Rabbit is also 
on 
> hand in a little feature. This was a pretty good comic all things 
> being equal. 
> 
> Does anyone happen to know where Punchy and the Black Crow 
originally 
> appeared?
> 
> Overstreet shows that two more issues were done, #11 and #12. Does 
> anyone know right off if in fact those issues do exist?
> 
> Dean


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For those fans of Denny O'Neil's now classic "Question" series or the 
character's recent appearances in "Batman/Huntress," take note of events at 
the Comic-Con International in San Diego. At the "DCU: Racing Into Tomorrow" 
panel on Friday, DC's Patty Jeres revealed to fans that Vic Sage, aka The 
Question, may be returning soon. "There's a good proposal in," said Jeres and 
also noted that there is a "good chance" of the Question returning sooner 
than later.     
    
    



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A long time ago, in the first few weeks that I'd joined this group 
(club then), I posted about a Charlton comic I had had as a kid.  
All I could remember was the name of the character: Wire-man.  
Yep--he was a guy whose body was nothing but a mass of 
electrical wires, with two bulbs for eyes.  Anyway, I recently 
discovered an auction on ebay that included that particular 
comic!  It was a 35 cent, Ghostly Tales issue.  Infact, there were 
2 copies of it in the auction, as well as several other goodies!  
Here's a link to the auction if you want to see what Wire-man 
looked like.  He's funky-cool!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=21263690
41&ed=1028512863&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOA:US:2

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I recently found that issue myself at a mall antique sale.  The story was written by the incomparable Nick Cuti. Somewhere I have a scanned image of him.  I will have to post the image here.
 
Rome
 lostonwallace wrote:A long time ago, in the first few weeks that I'd joined this group 
(club then), I posted about a Charlton comic I had had as a kid.  
All I could remember was the name of the character: Wire-man.  
Yep--he was a guy whose body was nothing but a mass of 
electrical wires, with two bulbs for eyes.  Anyway, I recently 
discovered an auction on ebay that included that particular 
comic!  It was a 35 cent, Ghostly Tales issue.  Infact, there were 
2 copies of it in the auction, as well as several other goodies!  
Here's a link to the auction if you want to see what Wire-man 
looked like.  He's funky-cool!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=21263690
41&ed=1028512863&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOA:US:2

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Hi folks!

Those Charlton collectors among us (Hey! Ain't we all-?) might like 
to know the following information: in answer to an email query I made 
today of Doug Sulipa's Comic World, as to whether or not he had in 
stock CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIAL #1, and #2----he replied, "Phil, 
these are are everyone's want list, and noone I know of has ever 
turned up a copy of either, in my decades of doing business. Thus, I 
am 95% certain that neither of these two specials were ever 
published." This info comes from a Senior Comic Book Price Guide 
Adviser. Thus, I tend to believe this is accurate info.

In short, guys, this means that the Overstreet Price Guide listing of 
these is an error, or a bogus entry, entered for copyright reasons. 

EG: I have been informed from other sources that some entries in the 
Overstreet guide are incorrect or flat-out wrong ON PURPOSE. Why?
For copyright reasons. If another company repeats incorrect entries 
in the Overstreet guide, Bob Overstreet will then have grounds for a 
plagiarism lawsuit. I kid you not. Leastways, that is what I have 
been informed of. Interesting, yes-?

Phil Latter


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Okay, here's what I know about the two specials:
No. 2 did not come out. No. 1, however, was printed in a very short=20
supply (from what I can gather). I had a dealer offer to sell a copy=20
to me last year when I was living in Tennessee, but, not long after=20
he emailed me to confirm he did have the issue, I left Tennessee for=20
West Virginia and didn't keep contact with him. He guaranteed me it=20
was the special I was hoping for and not one of the regular issues or=20
one of the fanzines.
I'd love to find a copy, but haven't been able to and have since given=20
up on finding another. Heck, it took me years to locate the first one,=20
and I let that one slip away. Ah well, such is life ...
The first special, though, is like the Miracleman Gold and Blue=20
editions which everyone said was mythical. I believe it's out there.=20
With enough people looking, one will eventually turn up (after several=20
years of looking, I found both the Gold and the Blue editions =97 in a=20
little more than two months time after all those years of endless=20
searching and offering to buy any copy I could find.).
Mike Browning

--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>=20
> Hi folks!
>=20
> Those Charlton collectors among us (Hey! Ain't we all-?) might like=20
> to know the following information: in answer to an email query I=20
made=20
> today of Doug Sulipa's Comic World, as to whether or not he had in=20
> stock CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIAL #1, and #2----he replied, "Phil,=20
> these are are everyone's want list, and noone I know of has ever=20
> turned up a copy of either, in my decades of doing business. Thus, I=20
> am 95% certain that neither of these two specials were ever=20
> published." This info comes from a Senior Comic Book Price Guide=20
> Adviser. Thus, I tend to believe this is accurate info.
>=20
> In short, guys, this means that the Overstreet Price Guide listing=20
of=20
> these is an error, or a bogus entry, entered for copyright reasons.=20
>=20
> EG: I have been informed from other sources that some entries in the=20
> Overstreet guide are incorrect or flat-out wrong ON PURPOSE. Why?
> For copyright reasons. If another company repeats incorrect entries=20
> in the Overstreet guide, Bob Overstreet will then have grounds for a=20
> plagiarism lawsuit. I kid you not. Leastways, that is what I have=20
> been informed of. Interesting, yes-?
>


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Mike-

Yes, I know what you mean about those elusive dragons! Such with the 
case with The Charlton Portfolio--the title of which is a misnomer, 
since it is a multi-page professionally done fanzine by the CPL 
Group! And rare! Took me years to find a copy but finally landed one 
on ebay last year! Contains the unpublished Ditko Blue Beetle #6---
only place it was ever published. The Charlton Portfolio---there were 
only between 100 to 500 copies printed, I hear. Lots of other cool 
stuff in it too.

Me, I would love to find some other issues of CPL as well. The 
Charlton Portfolio issue of CPL is double issue #9/#10---and the best 
known issue. It is about four times scarcer I am told than ANY issue 
of the Charlton Bullseye first series fanzine---though I suspect it 
is far scarcer than even that. Whereas other issues of CPL apparently 
are even scarcer than Charlton Bullseye and I understand pretty well 
NEVER turn up. I suspect those disappeared into permanent collections 
ages ago. 

Now me, I would give my eye-teeth for a copy (even a photocopy) of 
the Batman fanzine THE MIDNIGHT CONFERENCE #13  and #14. #13 sports a 
Sergio Aragones cover. Anyone in the group have those?

Phil Latter


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A day or two ago, I posted on another board about locating and 
purchasing Ditko, Captain Atom artwork.  I asked dealers to 
send me scans and prices.  Here's one of the e-mails I received:

"Loston,

I saw your post on the comicart-l asking about Steve Ditko 
Captain Atom 
art.
Well, I spent too much in San Diego this year so would consider 
parting 
with
the page I have. It's from what was going to be Captain Atom #90 
but 
the
book was cancelled. It ended up being published in Bullseye 
after it 
was
inked by John Byrne. It's a great 2X page. I've attached a scan.

Best,

Tim Easterda"

And here's the scan:
http://www.geocities.com/lostonwallace/DitkoByrne.jpg

I had no idea about this being published in Bullseye, but I 
thought you guys might enjoy seeing the scan.

Loston
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I read this thing back in 1968, and remembered it fondly. Imagine my 
surpirse when I found it for sale. 

The first story is by Joe Gill (natch), with art by Pat Boyette. I 
can list many faults of Mr. Boyette's art (it's stiff, repetitive, 
faces lack detail, etc.), but I LIKE it. Boyette can tell a story and 
move the action along with the best of them, and do that 'way better 
than a lot of "creators" today. Anyway, this story concerns a war 
between Earth and a spacefaring planet that has moved into the solar 
system and destroyed Venus, taking up its' orbit around the sun. It 
hghlights the efforts of the enemy in capturing the leader of Earth's 
defenders. The capture of him and his "good luck charms" is actually 
the beginning of the end for the invaders, with the addition of some 
pseudo-scientific claptrap that readers of comic S/F stories from 
the '50s expect (and enjoy).

The second story, the one highlighted on the cover as "The Incredible 
Imatation People", is about a scientist who creates a race of 
humanoid robots to help colonize a planet, and how the 
robots "evolve" as the story progresses. The ending of the story was 
obvious, but I was amazed at the subtlety with which that ending was 
foreshadowed. I picked up on a couple of cues that I missed the first 
time around. Had the story been published ten years earlier in 
Mystery In Space it would not have seemed out of place. As it is, I 
still think it holds up well. Maybe the ending wouldn't be as obvious 
to someone who hadn't read reprints of '50s S/F and monster stories.
I think I'd seen Jim Aparo art befor this story, but this one caused 
me notice him. His representation of the robot Clarissa made her one 
sexy hunk of machinery (kinda like Julie Newmar in "My Living Doll"). 
I spent hours trying to draw women like that, and yet looking back at 
it, everything is so posed and static compared to his later work on 
Batman. Yet I still don't understand how he could draw a nose that 
looked like " ], " and made it look right.
All in all, this is a good story. Even though it was out of fashion 
when it was published, it is still enjoyable today in my opinion. It 
is an example of what Charlton could turn out, and why people still 
read the comics today.


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Hi all!

A few days ago, Roger Broughton of ACG/Sword in Stone/A+ fame sent me an 
email concerning some interesting news on future Charlton-inspired 
publications.

Since the next issue of Charlton Spotlight won't be soon enough, and my 
website (http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics) is not a really good 
place for breaking such news, I thought I'd let you all in on the good news.

Below is the actual e-mail Roger sent me. I've only deleted some personal 
remarks directed to me. Enjoy

Ramon


>Dear Ramon,
>
>I just wanted to let you know that ACG has merged with a Canadian film
and a graphic company and has formed Charlton Media Group. (The Company was 
formed a few months ago but the full merger is effective August 1)

>This project 2 years in the making and delayed partly because of my
health problems, will bring in much needed talent from the graphic,
entertainment and licensing field.

>Besides comics I also own a small catalogue of book rights which will
also be part of the properties developed for film and TV.

>The Charlton comic book line will be upgraded considerably with a mix
of color reprints, as well as creator owned and licensed books. (more on
this later) We also have some European Graphic novels in the works.

>(Don't announce it yet but we have XXXXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXX, and 6 others
in the works. for comic books).

>We also have plans for children books and comics which will be
published in French and in English for the Canadian market.

>I believe that multi-language publishing will be an important strategy
for us in the future. This is no surprise.

>Peter O'Shea will be reprint editor and will help you with graphics and
anything you may need to help keep you current.

[Ramon's note: Roger is referring to my website, here, which will try to 
keep an update on new Charlton and ACG-related publications.]

>I am letting you break the news first,

>CBG will have it second..

>ACG continue to publish as an imprint for a few months until we decide
what will be it's designation.

[unsigned, but by Roger Broughton]

_________________________________________________________________
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Thanks for the info Ramon. I hope this project comes together.
It would be very neat indeed to see Charlton material readily 
available again.

Dean


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Ramon, 

I forwarded your post on the Charlton group to my friend JENNIFER CONTINO. 
She just started writing for the Pulse at Comicon.com 
(http://www.comicon.com/pulse) and would like to interview you and/or Roger 
Broughton. Let me know and I'll set something up. Thanks! 

Scott Mateo 


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I'll believe it when I see it, given Mr. Broughton's spotty publishing 
history.  If true, it would be great, especially with a few color books and 
pages here and there.  It's a tough market out there, so I hope Mr. Broughton 
does have an alternative market he can look to.  All I can say is good luck!


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Hi folks!

Whoever sent me a post a few weeks or more ago, regarding the issue 
as to whether or not CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIAL #1 AND #2 really 
exists, or whether they are listed in the Overstreet price guide in 
error....would you please contact me about it again, please-? I wish 
to discuss it further. My email address is CHROMIUMFOIL@HOTMAIL.COM

I have some additional questions to ask on this.Bottom line: I am 
working to hopefully get more information to help me, a dealer friend 
of mine,and also for fans and collectors in general finally decide as 
to whether they do, or do not exist. In order to prove if they, or if 
even one of these DOES exist, I need to ask some questions that will 
set me on a "detective trail", so to speak, to getting some 
documentation from a dealer (at my own expense) that would prove the 
existence of either issue. EG: photocopy of cover, indicia pages, 
copyright notice, month and year of publication, circulation figures. 
If a dealer has this info (irregardless of whether he still owns a 
copy), I would phone him long distance on my dime, and pay for 
photocopies of this info. Very interested in documenting their actual 
existence....or nonexistence, as the case may be. The recent Comic 
Book Artist issue that included this particular Charlton 
topic,...actually raised more questions....than provided answers. 
Apparently, even the creators of these two issues have never seen a 
published copy of either. And as we know, charlton comics is not 
around anymore, in order to ask them.

Thanks!

Phil Latter




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Hi gang,

     I just purchased a copy of Charlton Bullseye no. 3, the Kung Fu 
issue.  It had a great photo of Joe and Nick.  I posted it on the 
title page of my E-Man website at 
http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html

Rome


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Hi I just started a Photo Album with CHARLTON MINI HEROES.Take a 
look .Blackie



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Delightful! Thanks a bunch for adding this to the club features. The 
Blue Beetle in particular is pretty cute.

Dean


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Well done!!
Rome







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> look .Blackie


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I was going through some of my old comics and I found a copy of Charlton Comic's "Atomic Mouse #1". It is a reprint of the Atomic Mouse comics from 1953, 1954 and 1956. My dad had bought it for me at a 7-11 in Lynchburg,Va.



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I forgot to mention that it was published and bought in Dec 1984. My dad may have bought it a few months after it was published but I'm not sure.



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Sounds great! I just found that one for myself a few months back. 
It's neat collection of stories from several periods. Something else 
you might look for is a Shanda Comics production which features 
a "new" version of Atomic Mouse. The new stuff is okay, but the treat 
is another Atomic Mouse reprint. The downside on this one is that 
it's B&W and the cover price is around 5 bucks. Don't pay full cover. 
This one can likely be had for much, much less.

Dean


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Scott Shaw's Oddball Comics column manages to hit on a Charlton comic 
pretty regularly, and the latest to get the treatment is issue #3 of 
Peacemaker. This issue just happens to be my very first Peacemaker 
issue, and while I dearly love Pat Boyette's treatment of the 
character, I will have to agree this story is a bit wonky. I don't 
agree that the Peacemaker's premise of a man so committed to peace he 
was willing to fight for it is oxymoronic at all. It makes sense to 
me.

Dean


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Hey folks!

I was thinking that, given the amount of collective knowledge we have 
concentrated in this group, we ought to begin writing "encyclopedia-
type" entries on all of Charlton's characters, including all known 
appearances and such. This would be of pre-DC versions only, of 
course, since the DC versions are not hard to find information for on 
the 'net.

Characters like the Cheyenne Kid and Yang, for example, are not 
represented on the net anywhere as far as I know, and it's very hard 
to find information on them. (By the way, could someone tell me what 
the Cheyenne Kid's real name was? And did he have any connection to 
the old '30s western movie of the same name?)

I figure, if we can start writing those entries here, they can be 
collected in the Files section in Text files and revised as new 
information comes up.

Any takers?

Doc


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Doc Quantum" 
<the_time_trust_2000@y...> wrote:
> Hey folks!
> 
> I was thinking that, given the amount of collective knowledge we 
have 
> concentrated in this group, we ought to begin writing "encyclopedia-
> type" entries on all of Charlton's characters, including all known 
> appearances and such. This would be of pre-DC versions only, of 
> course, since the DC versions are not hard to find information for 
on 
> the 'net.
> 
> Characters like the Cheyenne Kid and Yang, for example, are not 
> represented on the net anywhere as far as I know, and it's very 
hard 
> to find information on them. (By the way, could someone tell me 
what 
> the Cheyenne Kid's real name was? And did he have any connection to 
> the old '30s western movie of the same name?)
> 
> I figure, if we can start writing those entries here, they can be 
> collected in the Files section in Text files and revised as new 
> information comes up.
> 
> Any takers?
> 
> Doc                            Sounds interesting I'll do what I 
can.







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I don't have enough Cheyenne Kid comics to do a good job, but Yang, 
House of Yang, Doomsday +1, and that ilk might well be a possiblity.
Some other characters I have have complete runs on are Hercules (that 
would be fun), Thane of Bagarth (obviously if you have one you have 
the other...duh), Mike Mauser, E-Man. On the Action heroes I have all 
of those save for one Sarge Steel, one Son of Vulcan, and some of the 
early Captain Atom. It could be worthwhile to look into the 
backstories of some of the Ghost Hosts.

Keep me posted.

Dean


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We already have a small photo album dedicated to Scott Shaw's Oddball 
Comics selections, but I too a few minutes and created another 
called "Oddball Covers #1" which features all of the Charlton covers 
selected to date. I likely have forgotten or overlooked a few, so if 
anyone cares to add by all means do so. By my count there have been 
39 Charltons deemed "oddball" since Shaw began the column in 2000. I 
only ran across two or three months in which no Charltons were 
selected. The list runs the gamut from mystery to love to superheroes 
to comedy. Take a peek and see what you think.

Dean


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   Isn't that cover you posted of Fantastic Giants beautiful? I 
remember seeing it when it hit the stands and it's been one of 
my fave covers of all comics. I was a fan of the Charlton 
big-monster comics (Reptisaurus, Konga, and Gorgo)--in fact, I 
still am. So this particular issue was a hit with me. I was also in 
the middle of my Steve ditko-worship period, so that was an 
added treat.
   I've always wondered why such big monster comics weren't 
more popular. It must have just been me with an appreciation of 
these things because other comics fans seem to like other stuff 
better...but I enjoyed these Charlton monster books a lot as a kid 
and think they represent a unique genre that was largely 
Charlton's. (I know that Atlas had the great 'monster of the 
month" comic stories like "Fin Fang Foom", and since we've had 
a few comics like Godzilla in various incarnations...but mostly, 
Charlton was the one company to produce a "genre" of giant 
monster "characters" and that company has the right to be 
known for setting the trend (such as it was)).


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I think it's a beautiful cover too. This giant-size (the perfect 
format don't you think) reprinting the Gorgo and Konga material is 
the only one of these I ever remember seeing on the stands. My 
reading began just a few years too late to catch the prime Charlton 
monster period. I've seen several in back issue bins and I've even 
collected up some (prices keep off many of them but now and again you 
find one in reading condition for a nice price). Gorgo is on my top 
10 list of monster movies, and while I only got a chance to see Konga 
a few years back, it too holds up pretty well for a movie with such a 
small budget and limited ambition.

Dean


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Scott Shaw takes a very oddball look at Abbott & Costello #1 over at 
his regular CBR column. (I told you he can't go more than two weeks 
without featuring a Charlton comic.) To get a look at this Steve 
Skeates-scripted classic go to:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/ 

Enjoy!

Dean

There is also a link to the site in the Bookmarks section.


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I just went through and looked at everything--FANTASTIC job, 
people!  More--Post more images! :D

Loston
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I agree, Loston! Great photos of old comic book covers on the 
Charlton Bullseye yahoo site. 

One thing I noticed, though---and this is NOT a criticism, but maybe 
someone more technically knowledgeable than I can fix it: when you 
click on the icon for the cover of doomsday plus one vol.1 #1 (the 
original, not a reprint), it does NOT load the cover. At least not 
for me. The rest of them work flawlessly. 

I am wondering if DC will ever do anything with all of those Charlton 
heroes TOGETHER, again? (Like The L.A.W.-?)

Did you know? Several years ago, when DC first published the rights 
to the "Charlton Action Heroes", as they used to be referred to as, 
DC at that time published a beautiful full-colour poster of all of 
those characters that you could buy. Fortunately, I was smart and did 
buy one. It is beautiful, in my opinion. Try finding one now.

Phil Latter


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That Doomsday+1 cover seems to be a dead link. At some point I will 
reload those images so hopefully all of them will come up. 

Dean


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Bill Black's great little company AC Comics had control of the Action 
Heroes for about 20 minutes way back in the early 80's before Dick 
Giordano got hold of them for DC. A couple of AC comics were 
published featuring new versions of these Charlton classics. A few 
new Blue Beetle stories and the Sentinels of Justice  which lasted 
one lone issue (actually I think this issue was graciously allowed to 
be published after DC had acquired the rights, but I could be wrong 
on that). This early version of the L.A.W. is the first time the 
Charlton heroes team-up. Outside of the Captain Atom and Nightshade 
team-ups in Cap's mag, I don't think any of the Action heroes ever 
met at Charlton itself save for the odd Charlton Premiere which 
featured Sinistro the Boy Fiend and had Peacemaker and Blue Beetle 
among others.

What might have happened had Black been able to get ahold of these 
characters and keep them? This one issue is fun, but the 
craftsmanship is rudimentary. Actually Black had a great deal of 
trouble with the team who did this issue and later he had to let them 
go because of missed deadlines. Nonetheless the vigor which often 
went with AC Comics would have been refreshing with these classic 
characters. In all probability the characters would be languishing 
like Tower characters are currently, but I'm certain Black could have 
gotten a few great stories before it went smash.

Dean


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Well, for one thing, Bill Black and company would have kept some of these 
characters in print, if only as reprints. They have done so for some of my 
favorite (Charlton) characters, such as Cheyenne Kid, Lash LaRue, Nyoka, 
Rocky Lane, Mysterious Traveler etc.
Kudos to Bill and friends for keeping the fires ablaze!
Ramon


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>Bill Black's great little company AC Comics had control of the Action
>Heroes for about 20 minutes way back in the early 80's before Dick
>Giordano got hold of them for DC. A couple of AC comics were
>published featuring new versions of these Charlton classics. A few
>new Blue Beetle stories and the Sentinels of Justice  which lasted
>one lone issue (actually I think this issue was graciously allowed to
>be published after DC had acquired the rights, but I could be wrong
>on that). This early version of the L.A.W. is the first time the
>Charlton heroes team-up. Outside of the Captain Atom and Nightshade
>team-ups in Cap's mag, I don't think any of the Action heroes ever
>met at Charlton itself save for the odd Charlton Premiere which
>featured Sinistro the Boy Fiend and had Peacemaker and Blue Beetle
>among others.
>
>What might have happened had Black been able to get ahold of these
>characters and keep them? This one issue is fun, but the
>craftsmanship is rudimentary. Actually Black had a great deal of
>trouble with the team who did this issue and later he had to let them
>go because of missed deadlines. Nonetheless the vigor which often
>went with AC Comics would have been refreshing with these classic
>characters. In all probability the characters would be languishing
>like Tower characters are currently, but I'm certain Black could have
>gotten a few great stories before it went smash.
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Good point! We would most likely have gotten all the Charlton Action 
Hero material available to us in a reprinted (likely B&W but who 
really cares about that)form. It would be really cool to see that old 
Joe Gill, Roy Thomas, Tony Tallarico & Bill Fracchio Blue Beetle 
material in a single volume. Likewise Ditko's masterful reboot of the 
character a few years later. 

Thanks to Fantagraphics the Doomsday+1 material has been reprinted on 
great stock. Likewise the E-Man material was reprinted in beautiful 
(and still cheap) volumes in the mid-80's. But for some reason never 
has the Peacemaker, Sarge Steel, Judomaster or Thunderbolt stuff ever 
been collected. Captain Atom did have that one story reprinted by DC 
last year, but I've heard nothing about additional stories from them. 
Thunder Agents got an Archive volume, but I've heard the sales were 
disappointing on that so far which doesn't bode well for similar 
editions featuring the Action Heroes.

I can understand (though I would love to see it) why Son of Vulcan 
has never been collected but most of the stuff I've mentioned above 
was ahead of its time when it was originally published.

Dean


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Dean-

In reply, I read in Charlton Spotlight#2 (new zine) just last week, 
wherein they interviewed Bill Black....It turns out that at least 
three Charlton characters issues were drawn for AC but only 2 were 
published. I have those two. It turns out (from Bill Black) that Dan 
Reed, whose idea and inspiration it was to have the Charlton 
characters return in the first place, that when he found out DC had 
acquired the rights to the Charlton heroes that he had worked so hard 
to get published again.....he flipped. Hopping mad, as it were. He on 
purpose, (according to Black), stalled on the deadline, and -in anger-
 redrew large parts of the 3rd story...KILLING OFF ALL OR MOST OF 
THE "Chartlon Action Heroes"... A) Black wasn't satisfied with the 
story the way Reed presented it (deaths of all those heroes "in 
revenge...) Bill said he wouldn't have published the story like that 
anyway. It is still in his inventory and legally he couldn't publish 
it anyway. Besides, by the time Dan Reed finished the 2nd version of 
the 3rd story, DC by now legally owned the rights, and so Bill 
couldn't have published it, anyway.

So now you know (as they say), "...the rest of the story!"

Phil Latter


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In a message dated 10/22/02 6:42:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> This early version of the L.A.W. is the first time the 
> Charlton heroes team-up.

Actually, Dean there's an issue of Justice League Quarterly that features 
Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and Thunderbolt, and the group is put 
together by Sarge Steel. The story is written by Paul Kupperberg, and 
Peacemaker kinda gets a nod (when a soldier says, "I've my old Peacemaker 
handy" and pulls out a pistol), unfortunately the story came out about the 
same time as his untimely demise (which Paul was totally against). I'm sure 
die-hard Charlton fans will say it's not the greatest story, but all will 
agreee it totally blew L.A.W. away (which that mini seemingly "forgot" these 
events even happened). 

Blue Beetle summed it up best at the end when he asked the others if they 
felt a "strange connection" between them and suggested that they should 
perhaps team up again.


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I have this JLA quarterly issue, too---the only one I bought, for 
that very reason. For some reason in this comic, they made up a NEW 
version of Judomaster, even though the original Judomaster is in the 
present, and not aged---since CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS. The original 
JM is a favourite of mine, thus I wasn't sorry to NOT see the new JM 
fade away eg: not return. BUT---I wish they'd give the original JM 
his original costume. That was so cool---didn't like the new version 
in the L.A.W. I also wish they'd explain what happened to the 
original Peacemaker aka Christopher Smith.
Phil Latter


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I actually have this issue of Quarterly too. It is the only issue of 
the comic I picked up at the time it was published. The Action Heroes 
being all together was irresistable despite the fact I wasn't getting 
DC at the time.

The issue is better than nothing. I give the talent all the credit in 
the world for getting these heroes together one more time. The new 
Judomaster is an enigma as I don't think he has ever shown up 
anywhere else, nor has his connection to the original been explained. 
Given the fact he seem to be Asian, I assumed at the time he was 
connected to Tiger. I don't think it had been established at the time 
of this story that Judomaster was still around. He had (to my limited 
knowledge) only been shown in WWII or Crisis scenarios.

Peacemaker was either crazy or dead at the time (or both), but sadly 
while the Colt comment is clever, he is missed. 

I thought the L.A.W. would succeed where this oneshot failed, but 
despite the significant talent on that effort, there were still 
substantial limits. We get Peacemaker back, but by then DC had lost 
Thunderbolt.

Dean


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Dean-

I agree. We have really lost Peacemaker and Thunderbolt.

I am wondering if the "Judomaster" in JLA quarterly was supposed to 
BE Tiger, prior to "THE L.A.W"...

Here is something else of interest....in the last couple of years, 
Judomaster was featured in one panel only of either a Batman comic 
issue, or a Detective comics issue, in a fight scene in an alley. 

In this Batman comic, he sported his original 1960's costume (and 
therefore, presumably he was the original Chartlon version.) 

EXCEPT, that in this one panel, his 1960's yellow and red costume was 
SLEEVELESS. In other words, it was the same 1960's costume, except in 
place of yellow sleeves, the costume had bare arms. Or maybe the 
colourist just coloured it incorrectly, which is equally possible. 

I don't know which issue it was offhand, but I will check tonight and 
let you know tomorrow. I put a notation on this issue's comic bag 
thus it will be easy to find. I did so because JM is one of my all-
time favourite characters. The comic didn't explain which JM this was 
supposed to be. 

Does anyone else remember this-?

Phil Latter


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I'm totally unaware of this Batman appearance. When you find, be sure 
to tell me. I would love to try and hunt this one up. Hopefully 
no "fan faves" are in it so the issue won't be too expensive.

Dean


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Dean-

I am as good as my word. The Judomaster appearance is in Detective 
Comics# 723, July 1998, page 15. I looked it up for you last night.

Also on this page in the same issue is (curiously enough) The 
Question. And also Katana (formerly of Batman and the outsiders.) 
This is significant because (if you remember), for a while there ---
after Outsiders---the artists of any comics she appeared in---"stole" 
JM's chest insignia yellow and red "rising sun" chest emblem from JM 
and put it in the same place on her costume. It was identical both in 
design and in colours. In other words, they "plagiarized" it from JM 
and put it on Katana.

Humorously, when both appeared in Detec#723, the artist drew her 
costume back the way it USED to be, BEFORE her costume "aped" JM's, I 
guess so the two wouldn't look identical---or too similar.

Anyway, happy hunting for this issue-there's nothing 
otherwise "special" about it, (EG: no first appearances,etc), so that 
you should be able to purchase it pretty cheaply.

Were you also aware that Peter Cannon---Thunderbolt appeared several 
years ago in a few issues of The Dc Challenge DC 12 part mini series-?

Also, some of the old Charlton "action heroes" appear sporadically in 
some spot illos by pros, in the old (all issues rare) 
CPL=Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine. This was published by 
the "CPL Gang" as a companion zine to vol.1 Charlton Bullseye 5 issue 
seris. (Same publisher.) I am reliably informed there are 15 CPL 
issues. I have only double issue #9/10 (also known as The Charlton 
Portfolio), but it is simply issue #9/10 of CPL any way you slice it, 
and #12, which I recently acquired with a Gulacy colour cover. 
Believe me, CPLs are almost impossible to find. I just got lucky, 
basically. Anyway, forgive my ramblings. I am a huge Charlton fan. 
Hope you find the info useful.

Regards.

Phil Latter


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Thanks a lot Phil. I've added that Detective Comics issue to my 
official list of comics I'm searching for (along with a few errant 
Justice League issues, Power of Shazam comics, and a couple of feisty 
issues of All-Star Squadron and Secret Defenders). I stumbled across 
DC Challenge a few years back and bought a set for a big discount 
(thank goodness) and at the time for the Son of Vulcan appearance and 
some pretty good artwork. Thanks for the tips.

Dean


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In a message dated 10/23/02 6:58:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> The new 
> Judomaster is an enigma as I don't think he has ever shown up 
> anywhere else

He actually showed up in an issue of Guy Gardner: Warrior when he first 
opened his bar, along with Thunderbolt, who was in a NEW costume - which 
looked alot like the original Judomaster in a way (i.e. the blond pony tail 
coming out of the mask).

As for Peacemaker...yeah, he died in Eclipso, though his death was horribly 
written and out of character. I always thought he could have come back until 
Geoff Johns showed him in Purgatory with Rick Flag and Vigilante II. The new 
Peacemaker in L.A.W. really sucked - and was boring. The "Peacemakers" came 
across like Checkmate knock-offs. Anyway, I know most of those in this group 
really disliked the Dc version of Peacemaker, but in this day and age with 
all the terrorism about he's needed more than ever - even if he is a little 
crazy - it's an edge that works! I'd hope to see him written like he was in 
Showcase with Deadshot and Deathstroke in the "Kobra Kronicles" story line. I 
know he's not the Peacemaker most of you grew up with, but someone who 
hallucinates his dead Nazi father is too original a concept to throw away. 
Gotta admit, as an anti-hero he's alot more interesting than the one from 
L.A.W.  

Say, wasn't there another guy who made it through the Project along with 
Christopher Smith? Could be the other Peacemaker we saw leading the League 
Busters in the JLA/JLTF/JLI Day of Judgement cross-over - since it took place 
years after the original died in Eclipso, hmmm...


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> He actually showed up in an issue of Guy Gardner: Warrior when he 
first 
> opened his bar, along with Thunderbolt, who was in a NEW costume - 
which 
> looked alot like the original Judomaster in a way (i.e. the blond 
pony tail 
> coming out of the mask).
Gad! Another comic book to look for. Thanks for the tip though.
> Peacemaker in L.A.W. really sucked - and was boring.
I have to disagree with you here. I found the positive and capable 
medico a great take on the character and a clever invention given the 
name. He reminded me of a hi-tech Dr.Mid-Nite. The new Dr.Mid-Nite is 
pretty much the same kind of character, though not part of a large 
organization. 

>  Anyway, I know most of those in this group 
> really disliked the Dc version of Peacemaker, but in this day and 
age with 
> all the terrorism about he's needed more than ever - even if he is 
a little 
> crazy - it's an edge that works! I'd hope to see him written like 
he was in 
> Showcase with Deadshot and Deathstroke in the "Kobra Kronicles" 
story line. I 
> know he's not the Peacemaker most of you grew up with, but someone 
who 
> hallucinates his dead Nazi father is too original a concept to 
throw away. 
> Gotta admit, as an anti-hero he's alot more interesting than the 
one from 
> L.A.W.  
I have the Peacemaker four-issue mini-series and I can't say I hate 
it totally. It isn't the Peacemaker I remember, and it does have some 
storytelling breakdowns, but the concept of a mad hero is rather 
interesting. 
> 
> Say, wasn't there another guy who made it through the Project along 
with 
> Christopher Smith? Could be the other Peacemaker we saw leading the 
League 
> Busters in the JLA/JLTF/JLI Day of Judgement cross-over - since it 
took place 
> years after the original died in Eclipso, hmmm...
I like your thought. I don't know who that Peacemaker was supposed to 
be. I have been pretty distant from DC for so long that I don't 
really know enough about what was going on (outside of the Justice 
League titles) to know if he showed up in some other context.

Dean


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Atomjla: can you please tell me what particular issue of Guy 
Gardner,Warrior JM and T-Bolt appeared in? I would really like to 
know!!! Thanks.

Also, yes Peacemaker DID die in an issue of Eclipso (along with The 
Creeper and lots of other characters.) I have that issue-it was like 
a "snuff film/movie." And poorly done. However, later all or most of 
those characters -including Peacemaker and Creeper- returned to life, 
or the Eclipso story more accurately was ignored as though it never 
happened. That is why The L.A.W. title saying Peacemaker Christopher 
Smith character is dead---makes no sense. Cuz he was alive AFTER that 
Eclipso issue. See?

Regards,

Phil Latter


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I would have hoped that post-Crisis DC would be a more coherent and 
carefully developed universe. But given the sheer number of creators 
and the need for fresh stories, it only makes sense that mistakes are 
going to crop up from time to time. But one would think that they 
could at least keep track of the characters who are actually dead. 
That doesn't seem to be that difficult to do. Maybe Marvel and DC 
should put up a list of currently dead characters (imagine how much 
updating that would require with Superman alone) on their respective 
websites and require all the creators to check it out before they 
concoct stories.

Dean


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In a message dated 10/25/02 9:21:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Also, yes Peacemaker DID die in an issue of Eclipso (along with The 
> Creeper and lots of other characters.) I have that issue-it was like 
> a "snuff film/movie." And poorly done. However, later all or most of 
> those characters -including Peacemaker and Creeper- returned to life, 
> or the Eclipso story more accurately was ignored as though it never 
> happened. That is why The L.A.W. title saying Peacemaker Christopher 
> Smith character is dead---makes no sense. Cuz he was alive AFTER that 
> Eclipso issue. See?

Where did Christopher Smith show up alive? I'd like to say the Peacemaker in 
the League Busters was him, but in the Day of Judgement mini (where Hal 
becomes the Spectre) Peacemaker is show in Purgatory with the deceased Rick 
Flag and Vigilante II (kinda ironoc since they were bitter enemies). The 
Eclipso story still stands because there have been several references to it 
in various comics (the Wildcat story in Showcase comes to mind). I know 
Manhunter Mark Shaw has shown up alive since Eclipso - is it possible you may 
have confused him with Peacemaker? If not, please let me know the issue that 
shows Christopher Smith post-Eclipso Massacre. Thanks!



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Guy Gardner: Warrior #29 - keep in mind it's just a cameo and they say a few 
lines. Gotta see Thunderbolt's new costume - maybe that's why Pete Morsi 
won't let DC use him anymore.


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If the new T-Bolt costume is the one I think, it is featured in T-
Bolt's Justice League Task Force appearances. He has a ponytail and 
one of those jackets which were popular in the 90's. I can't say I 
thought much of it, and I agree that if Morisi saw it he wouldn't be 
happy. Maybe this was some lame way DC thought they could retain use 
of the character by changing his costumed image and perhaps 
ultimately more about him. Aside from the name little is left of the 
Captain Atom character.

Dean


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Dean-

can you clarify something for me in ref. to your last post?

You said that (Pete Morisi's) T-Bolt character appeared in Justice 
League Task Force, but with a new costume including a pony tail. 

My question is, was this indeed T-Bolt, or was it Judo Master, who 
DOES have a pony tail? Also, you then mentioned something about 
Captain Atom. So now my question is: which character was it in JLA 
Task Force: T-Bolt, Judomaster, or Cap Atom? Also, can you tell me 
please what issue or issues he/or they appeared in? Thanking you in 
advance.

Finally, it is possible that Peacemaker (the original Christopher 
Smith) did not appear again after his death in the Eclipso title. So 
I may be wrong. Were Peacemaker's appearances in Vigilante and 
Checkmate before or after the Eclipso "death comic" appearance?? I 
guess that knowing that would decide the issue once and for all, 
perhaps. I can't check right now because I am at work.

Warm Regards,

Phil Latter


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Guys (and Gals):

Just because Peacemaker died doesn't mean he can't get better...


Speaking of which, I found the Modern Comics reprint of Peacemaker #1 
at the flea market over the weekend. While "A man who loves peace so 
much he's willing to fight for it" DOES sound like an oxymoron (or 
some kind of moron), it really does make sense within the context of 
the book. Christopher Smith figured out that peace wasn't just going 
to "happen", it would have to be worked for, and fought for (and 
probably protected if it ever happened). Rather than just TALK about 
peace, he actually went out and DID someting about it.
Strange to notice now that, at least in the first issue, he is going 
out after what we would call terrorists...
I still remembered he jet-powered dive through the vent when they 
released the heat of the reactor into it. I hadn't realized that that 
was in the first issue.


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Hi! Whosever question it was...no, I definately do not have the Mark 
Shaw Manhunter confused with Peacmaker. I have some more questions, 
though. Some other folks here were saying there was another 
Peacemaker who went through training with Christopher Smith 
Peacemaker?
If so, can you please elaborate where those adventures took place, 
and any other places this other peacemaker appeared in? Not just 
title but issue #s too, please? Thanks

Phil Latter


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Thunderbolt first met the Justice League in an issue of Justice 
League Quarterly (I don't remember the number right off)and the story 
served as a bit of preview of the T-Bolt series that DC ran for a 
year or so. I think the story was in fact done by the same creative 
team. 

Later T-Bolt teamed up with Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, 
and the new Judomaster to battle a villain left over from the 
recently completed T-Bolt series. This story too appeared in an issue 
of Justice League Quarterly (#14 I believe).

Later still Thunderbolt showed up in issues #9,10,and 11 of Justice 
League Task Force (I'm pretty sure about those numbers). He worked 
with Martian Manhunter, Gypsy, Hourman, and Elongated Man to 
infiltrate some racist paramilitary organization. Those are the 
issues in which he sported the new costume that had the same color 
scheme as his original and second uniforms, but had the yellow 
ponytail on a mask, and featured a short jacket worn over a skintight 
shirt.  I think he showed up later in a story that brought back all 
the surviving Task Force members, but on that point I would have to 
check my sources. 

I'm sure this was Peter Cannon, but right off hand I can't recollect 
if they used the Thunderbolt name. Given the costume change, this 
might have been a time when Morisi was challenging DC's use of the 
character. My speculation is that DC might have tried to change the 
character enough so that they could claim he was all but new and so 
they could keep a character named Peter Cannon within their fictional 
universe. That is just speculation on my part though.

I'm not aware of any other T-Bolt sightings, but I'm far from being a 
DC devotee and later appearances could easily have escaped me.

Hope that helps.

Dean


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In a message dated 10/29/02 7:09:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:



Finally, it is possible that Peacemaker (the original Christopher 
Smith) did not appear again after his death in the Eclipso title. So 
I may be wrong. Were Peacemaker's appearances in Vigilante and 
Checkmate before or after the Eclipso "death comic" appearance?? I 
guess that knowing that would decide the issue once and for all, 
perhaps. I can't check right now because I am at work.

Hi! Whosever question it was...no, I definately do not have the Mark 
Shaw Manhunter confused with Peacmaker. I have some more questions, 
> though. Some other folks here were saying there was another 
> Peacemaker who went through training with Christopher Smith 
> Peacemaker?
> If so, can you please elaborate where those adventures took place, 
> and any other places this other peacemaker appeared in? Not just 
> title but issue #s too, please? Thanks
> 
> Phil Latter

Whew! Ok, let's see here...Christopher Smith's adventures in Vigilante, the 
Peacemaker mini, Checkmate, and Showcase happened before Eclipso, but the 
League Busters appeared during the JLA/JLI/JLTF crossover at least a year or 
more after Eclipso.

Now, as far as the "other Peacemaker", in the last few pages of the 
Peacemaker mini of each issue there were two or three informative pages on 
Project Peacemaker (written by Paul Kupperburg), Christopher Smith's military 
career, and a psych evaluation on Smith as well. In the history of Project 
Peacemaker it was reported that out of the 15 people recruited Smith and 
someone else were the only two to pass and during the change of presidential 
administrations they both "walked out the door" during all the confusion. 
Hence, is why I've assumed that the Peacemaker that led the League Busters 
was the other guy (not Smith). what was weird was that Captain Atom seemed to 
know him pretty well. The members of the League Busters was pretty unique 
(Mirror Master, Chromax, Spellbinder, and Ultraa), and it's a shame we never 
saw more of them after they got their butts kicked. I suppose the 
possibilities are endless, because for all we know the Peacemaker we saw 
could have been the other guy thinking he was Christopher Smith and Smith is 
still out there somewhere (more wishful thinking on my part). Anyway, it 
still leaves quite a few doors open!


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Hi!

Thanks for anwering my questions regarding Peacemaker. My next 
question would be: in what issue# and titles (so I can track them 
down and buy them) did Peacemaker (that is to say, ANY 
PEACEMAKER,Christopher Smith and/or the other guy)...appear in AFTER 
the Eclipso death of Peacmaker issue. I know about the L.A.W by the 
way and have those. So if you can tell me the titles name(s) and the 
issue #s that would be of GREAT benefit to me. Thanks so much.

Phil Latter PS: there are 2 Phil's who use this site; that is why I 
always use my last name.


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In my opinion, the single most important moment in the history of 
Peacemaker at DC, was when he unmasked Vigilante on national TV.

The problem I have had with writer Kupperberg for years on comics 
titles is...A) he tends to write characters into corners that he 
cannot write himself out of. B) All or most of his characters (MAIN 
characters) are insane.

The unmasked of Vig is in my opinion is why Adrian Chase killed 
himself, more than for any other reason. I don't think Chase would 
have gone crazy and killed so many people-including the police chief-
had his ID not been exposed. this is what I mean. Kupperberg: "I 
can't figure out how to get the character out of this...I know, let's 
kill him. In Vig#50, it says Chase's death was planned all along. 
Given Kupperberg's track record of writing characters into corners, I 
say B.S.

Phil Latter


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I hope all the membership has a happy Halloween celebration. Take a 
few minutes today, if you can find it and dig out an old Charlton 
ghost comic and enjoy it. I think I might.

Enjoy!

Dean


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Is Steve Ditko wrong? What I mean by that statement, is have his 
ideas led him to make career decisions that have hurt his legacy in 
comics, or enhanced it. Without question, Steve Ditko is the J.D. 
Salinger of comics, a reclusive creator of substantial talent who 
seems to go out of his way to ignore those who appreciate his most 
famous and lasting work. Ditko of course is led by his firm 
confidence in the ideas of Ayn Rand and many of his comics (including 
Charlton's Mysterious Suspense #1 and most if not all of his Blue 
Beetle material)pay homage to and promote those ideas.

Based on what I've seen in recent years, Ditko is no longer at the 
height of his powers, but nonetheless I would like to see him take on 
more mainstream projects which would expose his talent to greater 
audiences. But maybe, his audience is sufficient now. Anyone who 
would be attracted to his work, already has access to it. Clearly 
most folks know the name now from the Spider-Man movie (if they 
cared) but who among those multitudes has any inkling about Ditko's 
more personal work. Virtually none, I would suggest. Should he 
attract attention to that work, by returning to his most famous and 
successful creation? 

What do you all think? Certainly Steve Ditko has done it his way (and 
I'm not suggesting he needs our advice, but merely as a thought 
experiment about what might have been or might still yet be) but has 
his unrelenting ideas hindered his career...or has it been the making 
of the legend which is Ditko?

Dean


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Dean-
as a big Ditko fan, I nonetheless agree with you. In any interviews I 
have read from other pros who ever had a conversation with Steve 
Ditko, any of these who (respectfully) disagreed with Ditko's 
philosophy (and let's face, you and I can respectfully---have a 
friendly debate/difference of opinion on our life's philosophies and 
come away from it---while perhaps not agreeing---at least not being 
offended.) Heck, we'd probably LEARN from each other, whether we 
agreed or not. This, then, is the stamp of open-minded people. 

My point is: any interviews I have read of people who discussed 
Ditko's philosophy came away saying he thereafter wouldn't talk to 
him, gave them the cold-shoulder, etc. This could be construed as the 
stamp of a narrow-minded person. EG: "I'm right, you're wrong. You're 
either with me or against me. If you don't agree with me, you're an 
idiot, not worth my attention. I will ignore you." I realize this is 
only an INTERPRETATION of Ditko's behavious, not a "diagnosis". I'm 
guessing. Whaddayathink?

I think further that perhaps Ditko's Ayn Rand philosophy came off 
most STRONGLY in his Mr. A one shot from 1973, which is NOT in the 
guide at all. Do you have this?

Phil Latter


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   I think you might be staqrting from the wrong point---the 
question is NOT whether Ditko is wrong, but whether he has 
hampered his career. I think that he probably has hampered his 
career in comics with several decisions...mainly be drawing in a 
style that is different from what most fans want these days, by 
adding philosophical questions to his stories, and by not playing 
to the fan audience. All of these are no doubt detrimental to his 
career in that they limit how popular his work can be. (No doubt 
behind the scenes he's been difficult for editors and other writers 
to work with as well since ditko clearly has his own standards 
and seems to want to keep to them. But I can ponly guess about 
that).
   I don't personally think that Ditko has been at all wrong in doing 
what he has done; and it seems he's been willing to make his 
decisions and suffer the consequences which makes me 
admire him even more. What work from him I can find, such as 
Robin Snyder's reprint books, have pretty much delighted me. I 
am happy that Ditko has been faithful to himself and I love to see 
work by an artist that reflects such a deeply personal viewpoint. I 
say that even while I'll be the first to admit that I like best the 
usual comics fantasies; but I also like to read stuff created by an 
individual who is willing to infuse his work with his personal 
approach.
   If you meant to ask if Ditko's philospohy or world-view is wrong, 
that is a separate question, and the short answer from me is 
"Not at all". I've heard arguments against his philosophy for 
years and I haven't found one criticism with much substance. In 
works like "Mr. A", Ditko proposes a reasonable and intensely 
fair world-view in which people are judged by their actions. This, 
of course, is diametrically opposed to the feel-good philosophy 
that has taken over which tries to excuse wrong actions with 
calls to understand the extenuating circumstances, and that's 
what most people object to in ditko's work, I believe. But as a 
philosophical stance, it's as valid as any more popular and 
trendy social theory. I personally believe we SHOULD hold 
people accountable for what they do and the decisions they 
make, even if it seems "hard" or "cruel" by the standards of 
average people.
   what I admire about Ditko is that he's one person in all of the 
comics creative community to take this particular world-view and 
express it, even at the cost to himself of venues for his work. In 
other words, if you wrote comics and expressed sympathy for 
criminals who "didn't have a chance" due to social forces beyond 
their control, you would no doubt find lots of work in comics; it's 
the popular view. But most of the comics pro community would 
find it difficult and uncomfortable to publish work that expresses 
the opposite view...and asssignments would dry up. Few of us 
would continue to express our true feelings in such a 
climate...and Ditko has, and you just have to admire that.
   I anyone whgo examines exactly what Ditko has said, and does 
so with an honest effort to understand what he says apart from 
what we've been "taught", would find his ideas in fact good 
ideas. In essence, he says there is a quality called "justice" 
which apportions (or should) rewards and punishments fairly, 
based on what people do, and without trying to squirm out of the 
affair with obfuscations and rationalizations. Personally I find this 
a refreeshing argument, and I rather wish it was a belief applied 
more often in real life. I think we would all be better off if our 
society was more "fair" and not so slanted towards one group or 
another based on what we assume to be their "excuses".
   I'm gratified a guy like Ditko exists. By the way, I like his lyrical 
art style...it's almost thaetrical in it's approach and fits perfecftly 
the stories he tells, from ghost stories to multi-panel editorial 
cartoons.


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I intentionally overstated the topic question in hopes of elicting 
some discussion. I don't mean to take issue with Ditko's philosopy 
directly (he's certainly entitled to his beliefs and frankly some of 
it is clearly correct),but to suggest that his singular approach in 
applying his beliefs to his career (admirable certainly at some 
level) has hurt his career and his effectiveness in delivering his 
message to a greater audience. He might well argue that he would have 
to deviate too much from his rigid beliefs in order to do more 
broadly successful work, but I can't help but think that like Rand's 
hero in The Fountainhead, Ditko is at least partially a martyr 
(he'd adamantly deny this I know)for his code.

I do have many of Ditko's self-published things from the 70's 
(inluding Mr.A) and I have to say that in its purest form his 
philosophy totally overwhelms the storytelling. The Question is more 
successful, while Blue Beetle might have the been the best blend of 
adventure and philosophy (the metaphors seemed to work to best effect 
in my opinion I will suggest).

Is Ditko wrong? Of course not. People can do what they choose, and 
certainly he has been willing to suffer the consequences of his 
actions by marginalizing his audience. He is a free man. I agree that 
many folks I've seen interviewed (Stan Goldberg in the latest Alter 
Ego being the latest example)who knew Ditko have suggested that Ditko 
was at once a good friend and a difficult person, perhaps needlessly 
so. Part of me wishes that he could find a way to be his own man and 
also continue to produce comics which are cracking good stories too.

Dean




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I can't remember but....did Ditko write Hawk and Dove in the 1960's 
or just draw it? If he wrote it, I would say his philosophy came off 
really well there, meaning they were great stories in my opinion. The 
strong will inherit the earth, the weak get pushed aside.

Phil Latter


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I have Ditko's Creeper work from that time period (love that 
character) but I have never read the Hawk and Dove stuff. I find the 
individual back issues just too darn expensive, and to my knowledge 
this stuff has never been collected. Now that's a good idea!

Dean


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Dean-

Like the Creeper, The Hawk and the Dove first appeared in Showcase in 
the 1960's. (I have all the Creepers and Hawk and Doves including 
their 1st appearances in Showcases for both titles.)

As you can likely surmise, Ditko's Ayn Rand philosophical (ironic to 
our current discussion) worked PERFECTLY with this title. Because The 
Hawk-any way you look at it, is a bully, prefering to solve 
everything with his fists. If someone is making life difficult for 
you---beat the tar out of him! That will fix him!

Whereas The Dove---"Violence never solved anything, Hawk! Using 
reason is the proper and moral way to solve anything! We're not 
cavemen but civilized intelligent people. We should act like it!" 

As you can well-imagine, The Hawk thinks his brother, Dove, is a weak 
coward. Which he is not. It is simply that the two are really polar 
opposites: "worlds apart."

None of the above are  quotes from the comic, just general ideas of 
how the stories and dialogue went. 

Basically, The Hawk and The Dove were actually designed from scratch 
with these principles in mind. Just as was Mr. A.

A different take or slant on it though. I think Hawk and Dove is a 
great concept. Hawk is a bully, Dove is a pacifist. 

Phil Latter


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<PRE>Perhaps it would be more relevant to ask, is Ditko wrong according to his own 
lights?  The answer would be, of course not.  But to those of us who've read 
his work, both old and recent, perhaps a different approach would have been 
more satisfying to us, as fans.  Occasionally, Ditko is highly effective with 
his current work, but not as effective when compared with his non-Randian 
work, his horror work, superhero work, or adventure work.  Perhaps, as a 
comics reader, I've been spoiled by reading comics for just entertainment, 
and need to get into Ditko's current work by viewing it as more than mere 
entertainment.  Or, just perhaps, would Ditko have been better off by getting 
a writer who is in sympathy with his Randian leanings to dialogue his current 
output?  To make it read more smoothly?  In any case, I've read most of 
Ditko's Randian output, some of it is highly effective, but I tend to feel 
that it would have been even more effective with a writer to write better 
dialogue and to pace the stories a little better.  Just my opinion.

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   I agree with you that the major weakness in Ditko's work for 
years has been the writing itself. I puts the very words together in 
annoying ways that make the stories more irritating to read than 
the basic plots warrent. If you look at even just the narrative 
boxes--how they are written--this shows flaw shows up clearly. 
He would benefit from writing the same thoughts in a smoother 
and more literate style.
   A point you brought up in your comment inadvertantly, I think, 
that I'd like to address, is what Ditko shows super hero comics 
to be. Saying it bluntly, super hero stories are really editorial 
cartoons!
   This insight came to me in the 70s when I read comics like 
"Avenging World" which were basically multi-panel editorial 
cartoons. Reading such books got me thinking..."Wait a 
minute...aren't all super hero comics very similar to 
editorial/political cartoons?"
   Once I noticed that, I saw the similarities. Editorial cartoons 
use symbols like the Democratic donkey or the Russian Bear to 
get across ideas; super heroes are more or less clearly 
symbols for more general ideas as well. (Captain America is 
obviously symbolic...but I argue, so too are all the other super 
heroes even if the symbolism is a bit less obvious). Editorial 
cartoons use a type of artistic shorthand to get across their 
ideas...and so do most super hero strips. The situations in 
super hero strips don't represent realistic fears and situations, 
but idealised situations, such as Superman repulsing an alien 
invasion. And think of all those splash panels in which the hero 
looms huge over a city while the crooks scurry down below---an 
editorial cartoon almost exactly like what you'd see on the 
opinion page of a newspaper.
   To keep this short, I won't go on. The point is that Ditko, by 
crossing that narrow and invisible boundry between typical 
fantasy stories "for entertainment only" and the opinionated 
fantasy stories he's know for, showed me the close relationship 
between super hero stories and political cartoons. 
   (The importance of this was that it gave me a new way of 
viewing super hero stories, and gave me an insight into what 
makes some good, some so-so, and some terrible. The ones 
with a point of view (an editorial if you will) stand out in my 
memory; the ones that are just entertainment are quickly 
forgotten. Think of Miller's Dark Knight, The Watchmen, thge 
1970s Green lantern/Green Arrow, etc. Weren't they 
political/social cartoons as much as mere adventure stories? 
And we remember them while hundreds of other stories are 
forgotten.)  


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I haven't been to Ditko-1 yet this morning. I wonder if the same 
discussion is going on over there...

It's difficult to be wrong in one's personal philosophy, so by that 
Ditko is right. He tries to sway people to his way of thinking by 
verbal and artistic persuasion, and leaves it to the reader to decide 
what they want to think. There's been reference to his avioding 
people who's opinions differ from his after failing in such 
persuasion, but that may be more human nature than anything.

Has Ditko's career been hurt by his philosophy? I don't really know 
nor can I really say. He has worked sporadically in comics in the 
last 20 years, but is that his choice or the choices of the various 
comics companies? Look at all the reprint stuff that is out there: 
almost every Marvel Essential has SOME Ditko art in it, ACG has 
reprinted several Ditko stories, and DC has reprinted a Captain Atom 
story, as well as an eminent THUNDER Agents archives. Maybe Ditko has 
just gotten tired of people changing his work when they don't agree 
with what he is saying.

Someone said something about his "style"  being a decision. I draw 
and paint a little, and your "style" isn't something you can turn on 
or off at will. It is probably a synthesis of everything you have 
learned and everything you have seen. Your style is your particular 
ways of solving the problems created by trying to illustrate three-
dimensional action in a two dimensional static medium with little 
black lines running all around the edges. I remember Rich Buckler 
having a "Kirby Style" and a "Buscema Style" and Keith Giffen having 
a "Giffen Style" and a "Kirby Style". I don't think these 
were "styles" as much as they were attempts at emulating the styles 
of others. Styles do change; look at a 1940s Jack Kirby story and a 
1960s Fantastic Four story from say around issue 50-60. There are 
similarities in the style (Kirby knees are a dead givaway), and you 
can believe that one is the refinement of the other. Gil Kane, Curt 
Swan, John Buscema, Wally Wood, Carmine Infantino, Joe Kubert, Barry 
Smith, Pete Morisi, Alex Toth, Jim Steranko, Paul Gulacy, and yes 
even Steve Diko have changed their "styles" during their careers, but 
the changes happened slowly, as they assimilated more knowledge and 
refined their skills. (We won't discuss Bill Sinkewitz, Kyle Baker, 
and Keith Giffen)


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Clearly Ditko is doing things the way he wants to. Given his status 
in the business though, I find it hard to believe that if he 
contacted Marvel and said that he wanted to do some comics that they 
wouldn't jump at the chance to have the name Ditko back on some new 
material from the company. I imagine he could parlay his reputation 
and make a pretty good deal with the powers for a substantial if not 
complete control of his material. Maybe they wouldn't give him what 
he wants, but I doubt he will ever be in a more powerful position to 
get his kind of comics distributed to a broad audience. 

Steve Ditko is admirable because he has pretty much done things his 
own way. He has worked for those employers who gave him the most 
freedom to work as he chose. Charlton's pay rates were such that no 
one was going to complain about what he did with scripts. Why bother. 
He had a great deal of control and given his speed I guess a 
reasonable income (as "reasonable" as it got in those days I will 
admit). This period of muscular art from him is my favorite period of 
his career. His later work for Marvel, especially on Rom was 
impressive but I doubt he thinks much of it. Now a lot of the stuff 
I've seen in more recent years seems less impressive. I don't know 
how his health is impacting his work, but it seems he is losing a 
step perhaps.

But if Steve Ditko wants a substantial audience, now is the time for 
him to claim it. 

Dean



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What is it about those stories produced by Charlton over the course 
of several decades that all of us here find so attractive? What is 
special about Charlton stories that set them apart?

Dean


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Possibly the biggest reason why Charlton was different was to me 
obvious. But still an opinion. 
As we know, Charlton kept the presses running constantly. They were 
only stopped a couple times a year for cleaning. Once turned off, 
took a lot of work to get them going again-old presses, like an old 
car. Keep the motor running. If we turn it off, it may not start up 
again. similar analogy.

Thus: since they had to keep the old presses running constantly 
ANYWAY, may as well make "constant money" WHILE they were running EG: 
constantly print periodicals of all types rather than JUST have them 
constantly running while producing no product. Thus, the more they 
print the more money they make.

To Charlton it wasn't important what they published. Comics were 
cheap and relatively easy to publish (I am referring to several 
interviews of their creators who have said all these things.)

It didn't matter to Charlton what type of comics they published. They 
were not (by and large) interested in making the type of comics the 
public wanted mostly, to make the most money. They simply wanted to 
make money since the presses had to be going anyway. They didn't CARE 
thus what type of comics they produced. OR: they wanted to put the 
types of comics the creators or editors wanted, NOT NECESSARILY what 
the public wanted. The idea I think was: any money was better than no 
money. Couldn't be bothered to do research to find out what the 
buyers wanted. (Though it seemed patently obvious.)

AND: many creators at Charlton said the same thing: superheroes 
didn't sell well for them. Thus, why not do what we usually do? 
Produce what we are used to producing, and what noone else is 
producing?

And these I think are the reasons they produced the types of books 
they did. Including licensed characters, since a lot of their OWN 
characters were not well-known enough (in Charlton's eyes) to risk 
capital on. These are my impressions. Comments-?

Phil Latter


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Doubtless, the driving business motive to "Keep the Presses Running!" 
is what kept the comics division alive. But more than anything the 
comics have a look and feel unlike any other comics I'm aware of. The 
famous jagged edges, the grainy covers, the very unwhite paper all 
contribute to give Charlton a feel unique in my comics reading 
experience. They were the farthest thing from flashy one could 
imagine. Also in Charlton you have a throwback company which was more 
like the outfits of the 40's than the somewhat more sophisticated 
companies of the 60's and 70's. The comics just came out with an 
occassional house ad or two. Text pages once in a while, but for the 
most part the stories and art spoke for themselves and had to stand 
alone. There was absolutely no cult of personality as one might find 
at Marvel and later at DC. Only during the Action Hero days do I find 
any specific info about creators. By the 70's faceless talent like 
Joe Gill, Joe Staton, Pat Boyette, and countless others cranked out 
comic after comic.

Dean


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Yeah. Well, I see the poor paper quality---actually like PULP PAPER 
used in the old Pulp magazines, as even more evidence that 
Charlton...just didn't care about its buyers or fans. Basically 
again:keep the presses running. you don't need fancy paper to keep 
the presses running. "You...just...need...paper." As in: any paper, 
the cheaper, the better!

Phil Latter


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Hello, everyone. I haven't posted before to this list, although
I've been on it for awhile. This topic, though, is something I just
had to put in my own two-cents-worth on.
When I was buying Charlton ghost-suspense and hotrod-racing comics
as a kid back in the late 60s and early 70s, I didn't really know
why they had such an appeal to me. Back then, I probably would
have said that I liked my comics the way I liked my rocknroll:
raw, not slick. I might not have known the word "unpretentious"
back then, but that was part of the appeal--the same appeal
that old b-movies, or "paperback original" crime fiction,
or rock'n'roll bands like the Flamin Groovies had.
I didn't buy many comics in the late 70s, but in the early 80s
I began buying them again and during that period, the waning
days of Charlton, its output was just plain odd. You'd never know
what you were going to get--old reprints, unpublished stuff,
even amateur work. By that time, for me, the mainstream comics
industry had become so stylized and slick--and had become
a kind of "cult" interest whose main audience seemed to me to be
the kind of people who would spend days playing
Dungeons and Dragons. Charlton's output was the exact opposite
of that--in fact, I remember the "comic shops" of the day in the
early 80s (by that time, most mainstream comics sales seemed to have
moved from regular newsstands to comic shops), at least in the
areas where I lived, didn't stock Charltons, blaming either
erratic publication schedules or lack of interest from their 
customers.
I've always loved old newspaper comic strips, and I always preferred
genres like mystery-suspense, westerns, hard-boiled crime, etc. to
superheroes and Tolkien-esque fantasy, so it always seemed like
Charlton was the last remaining holdout against the overly-stylized
and (to me, at least) pretentious direction in which comics were
going and which (to me, at least) killed the broad audience that
comics once had and have never since regained.
There's a directness and gut-level appeal to an old HAUNTED comic
or a FIGHTIN' ARMY comic that post-1985 Marvel and DC comics
just don't possess, as fine and complex as their artwork may be,
and as literary as the writing may be. If I want comics that are
a harrowing study of the human condition, I'll dig out Harvey
Pekar. If I want to see fine museum-quality artwork that I can study
and admire, I'll look at my collection of oversized Burne Hogarth
color Tarzan reprints. If I want an intellectual consideration of 
comics-as-an-artform, I'll read Will Eisner or dig out Scott 
McCloud's UNDERSTANDING COMICS.If I want the action and excitement and
cheap thrills that the term "comic book" has always been associated
with in my mind, I'll dig out some old Charltons.
Now, I never did get into the romances or the Bobby Sherman-David
Cassidy stuff, but 11 year old girls deserved THEIR comics too,
and I always felt that stuff was paying the bills for the comics
that I liked.
Back in the 70s, I had occasion to travel long distances by bus,
as I didn't own a car and air travel was out of the price range
of most people, unlike today. I can remember picking up a fistful
of Charlton Comics before each trip (I'd also pick up Boris Karloff
Tales of Mystery and Dell's Ghosts, and of course the latest issue
of CREEM), and always being taken away from my tedious bus trip
to Vietnam, or the old West, or a haunted house in old New England,
or Transylvania. The jagged-cut edges of pages, the off-white paper,
the sometimes unreadable printing (did any of those advertisers
ever demand their money back? I can remember not being able to read
2/3 of the advertisers' addresses!), all these things just added to
the charm for me.
And Charlton Comics still have that charm today for me, after all
the years.
I don't know if today's younger comics fans are going back and 
rediscovering Charltons or not, but I'm glad that there are
some good resources on the web about the company, its history,
and its artists (and checklists and the like), so someone new
to Charlton can get a little bit of background. You can still buy
many Charlton comics fairly cheap today, so I hope new generations
discover the hard-to-explain appeal of Charlton Comics.



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Charlton's War comics are overlooked in my opinion. DC gets the 
lion's share of critical attention when it comes to war comics (and 
with the likes of Joe Kubert, Robert Kanigher, Russ Heath, and Bob 
Haney it makes sense)but Charlton's war books had an immediacy that 
I've seen in no other company's comics. Charlton had few ongoing 
heroes, but focused on one-shot tales of individual (if sometimes 
interchangeable) soldiers in all sorts of conflicts. Charlton is the 
place I first read stories set in Vietnam. They were covering that 
war with some surprisingly effective stories WHILE the war was still 
going on. Almost no one did that, or it was a rare thing indeed. 

Dean


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Dean, 
You make an excellent point about the war comics,
which got me thinking that in the 60s and early 70s,
a bet a lot of Charlton's output went overseas
to military personnel serving in Vietnam, or
stationed in Europe, Asia, etc.
Some of my older cousins served in Vietnam and
I know they were avid comic readers and did read
war comics (although I don't know what publisher's)
while over there.
However, two specific things lead me to think
that Charlton distributed to servicemen:

1) I've bought many used Charlton comics--often
westerns and war comics--from guys who told me they
got them while in the service back then, and wind up
selling them 15-20 years later at garage sales and
flea markets (I've also gotten some weird Taiwanese
pressings of US 60s soul and rock lps from these
same ex-servicemen).

2) That full page ad in many Charlton comics from the
jewelry company that specializes in rings for
military guys to buy for girls. Remember, how your
credit is good because you are in the military, and
you can pay just a few dollars a month and impress
that special girl. The frequency with which those
ads appeared leads me to believe that the company
must have sold a bunch of rings to military comic
readers.

The Charlton philosophy was such that I can't imagine
them ever thinking about "demographics"--they would
just issue a new comic line, and if it bombed at the
newsstand, they would axe it after a few issues.
There are some short-lived comic titles from Charlton,
things I got years after they were originally out,
where I wonder who-the-heck could have been the
intended audience? For a practical, constant-product
oriented company like Charlton, it probably made more
sense to just put out an actual issue, like throwing
a baited hook in the water and seeing if any fish
went for it. With so many comics out simultaneously,
one or two bombing would not hurt the overall
financial
status of the comic line.

One other point: when I was first buying comics at
age 8 or 9 and had very little money, there was
a little mom and pop convenience store that had
big stacks of comics, under a rack that held
groceries,
with the top half of the covers ripped off. These
were a nickel, I think. Of course, these were comics
that were reported as unsold, but I didn't know that
as a kid who could buy, say, four comics for the price
of
one this way. I don't have any of those old comics
left, but did any of you ever buy ripped-off-cover
comics that way? I never saw this practice in a
legitimate chain store (for obvious reasons!),
but I know friends and relatives of mind also bought
comics this way (and later, when I started collecting
comics seriously, I would be GIVEN comics like this)
at dirt cheap prices, where elementary-aged kids
would pay for them in pennies and nickels.

Just some old memories...

django660

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  I hain't posted here 4 a while , now , somethin's finally goin' 
on !!!!!!!!!!!
  First , re: Skeates/Ditko's Hawk & The Dove...I've read something 
by Skeates saying that , when he plotted the stories ( This , I 
guess , would indicate that the series was done in " Marvel Style " , 
rather than " DC Style " - and , yepper , I believe S. D. was , 
already . credited at least as co-plotter ! ) , his depiction of the 
details in the stories , and where the baloons went/what peeps said , 
more or less balanced the " this guy's more right than the other 
one " spotlight between Hank and Don...but when it came back from S. 
D. , the balance of the script , as Skeates saw it , had been tipped 
to present Hank/Hawk more favorably !
  I've , often , caslled for a collection of the " complete " 
original H&D . Even with it being continued in TITANS after the books 
ending , some story aspects have STILL , never , been concluded , 
even to this day . 
  Actually , I've been meaning to post , over at Comics Cavalcade , 
ABOUT " Never-Completed Storylines/Cliffhangers Through The Years , 
Especially In The Last Part Of The Silve Age/The Early Bronze Age..." 
Oh , and before anyone informs me of this , a late-70s BRAVE & BOLD 
DID conclude/explain the Hawk & Dove ( Not the dangling plot 
aspects , however . )...but in a story that , though touching , was , 
only a year or two? later , declared to be " not in continuity/not 
part of the chronicles " , in time for H&D's appearances in the early 
issues of the Wolfman/Perez NEW TTs ! 


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...Hey , Django , it sounds like we might have some 
background/interests in common . Regarding the cheapo jewlery ads , 
I'd meant 2 post 'bout the subject for the " longest time " , but 
didn't...In my few ( Now in storage ! ) original Charltons , I had 
two , that I can remember , C.s with jewlery ads . One was a 
JETSONS , from '71-'72 - the other was DOOMSDAY +1 #1 , what , 1975 ? 
This is on either side of the U.S. draft gap . 
  The two ads were for different companies , possibly , both in 
California , but , at different addresses . 
  One might think that they were for " soldier's      " rings , but , 
IIRC , the first ad offered jewels/styles with mostly , if not 
entirely , " martial/pride " sort of names ! The 2nd ad offered some 
w/more " romantic " names . 
  I believe there was a tradition of a soldier who'd graduated from 
basic - Or , perhaps , not " ordinary " basic , at least a trade 
school ? - being " expected " , essentially , to get an Army/military 
ring . Could that've been what these were , primarily , anyway , 
catering to ? The DOOMSDAY ad was on the back cover , so , it had 
photographic reprodution and some gloss .
  Am hurried , must go .


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Dean/sonofvulcan hasn't posted here in the last few days because he 
is in "yahoo limbo." Dean can read our messages but he can't respond; 
because he and I are both moderators at a couple of groups, I get 
some of his attempted messages as e-mail. He feels no ill effects 
from being in limbo and he hopes to be able to return as soon as 
possible. Hopefully, he will be able to return as sonofvulcan and not 
have to resort to creating a new yahoo identity in order to 
participate in groups he created (I know Dean did not found this 
group, but his situation is the same in groups he did start as clubs).

Just thought you might like to know what is going on.

Take care,
Jon



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Hawkeye the Marksman is Son of Vulcan (at least for now). Thanks to 
Jon for taking time to inform the Bullseye members of my predicament. 
We'll see if SoV gets his powers back, but sadly like Johnny Mann 
himself, SoV seems to be a mere shadow of his former self, and may be 
destined for extinction. 

Glad to be back!

Dean



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As I understand it Nick Cuti and Joe Staton still hold the rights to 
E-Man (and God Bless them for having them). But should they either 
sell those rights or lease them to another company so that the 
character can see some exposure? 

I'm not attempting to tell these veteran comics stars what to do. I 
admire both men immensely. But I would love to see some new E-Man 
material and if that meant that Nick and Joe could lease the 
character to Marvel (ugh!) or DC (less-ugh!) or maybe Crossgen (not-
so-much ugh!) I would be all for it. 

Should anyone but Joe and Nick do the character. Hopefully not, but 
seeing other hands might be fun too.

What do you all think?

Dean

P.S. This of course presumes there is any market for the character. I 
would buy them!


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Good to see you made it back, even if it is with a new moniker. Since 
traffic seem fairly slow here, would you like me to add the early 
Ditko story, "The Evil Eye," to the files here? That pre-code horror 
story might seem out of left field to some of the members, but it 
would be a glimpse at both early Ditko and early Charlton that I 
doubt many here are familiar with. Undoubtedly, the story would 
generate some discussion here, one way or another.

Let me know,
Jon




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Sounds great. You might even be able to add it to the Photos section 
as we haven't used up our limit here yet. But either way, I think the 
membership would like to see it.

Dean


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In my humble opinion, absolutely not!  I remember the First Comics years, where Joe and Nick didn't have much control.  The stories and the character suffered in my opinion.  Joe and Nick are the only team I trust with E-Man.  Their collaboration are what make E-Man unique.  I would love to see E-Man return, but only in the hands of Joe and Nick.
Rome (Big E-Man fan) Maynard
 
 hawkeyethemarksman <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:As I understand it Nick Cuti and Joe Staton still hold the rights to 
E-Man (and God Bless them for having them). But should they either 
sell those rights or lease them to another company so that the 
character can see some exposure? 

I'm not attempting to tell these veteran comics stars what to do. I 
admire both men immensely. But I would love to see some new E-Man 
material and if that meant that Nick and Joe could lease the 
character to Marvel (ugh!) or DC (less-ugh!) or maybe Crossgen (not-
so-much ugh!) I would be all for it. 

Should anyone but Joe and Nick do the character. Hopefully not, but 
seeing other hands might be fun too.

What do you all think?

Dean

P.S. This of course presumes there is any market for the character. I 
would buy them!


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Hi everyone,

A quick question...can anyone give me information about a Charlton artist 
named "Demetrio?"  Apparently he (or she) did covers for some mid-70's 
Charlton horror and war titles, but I haven't been able to find anything 
else about the artist...not even a first name!

Thanks,

Andrew Goldstein
Exhibition Researcher, Connecticut Historical Society
(860) 236-5621 x256



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I remember the name, but I haven't a clue about any further details. 
I can only imagine he was one of the many foreign artists Charlton 
used during that period to cut costs and keep up production. I'll ask 
the question over at the Charlton-1 club and maybe someone over there 
will know.

Dean 



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I agree that in the perfect world, I too would only want to see Nick 
and Joe doing the character. But in the world in which we currently 
live (less than perfect I think we can all agree) we are not getting 
to enjoy any E-Man adventures. Both Nick and Joe are still vital 
creators and I would hope that some company somewhere would give them 
the ticket to create some more great E-Man adventures (Crossgen's new 
creator-owned imprint comes to mind),but sadly not. Like the great 
Kirby Fourth-World creations, it is always best when the original 
artist does the work, but even if not good work can still be done.

Believe me, I know what you mean. Nick and Joe were/are the greatest! 
I want them to do more. But I really would love to see more E-Man too.

Dean (formerly known as Hawkeyethemarksman...Heavens to Betsy that 
was a long monicker)



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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "django660" <django660@y...> 
wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I






...Hello , Django . I answered this posting of yours , and it's 
posting #1862 , but , perhaps because I didn't do it as an answer 
, perhaps you might not have seen it ( I'm bothh Joe Gould and 
Wlllljoyyyyy - at least in part , because of this list's penchant for " 
Yahoo! bubbles " . ) .

 haven't posted before to this list, although
> I've been on it for awhile. This topic, though, is something I just
> had to put in my own two-cents-worth on.
> When I was buying Charlton ghost-suspense and 
hotrod-racing comics
> as a kid back in the late 60s and early 70s, I didn't really know
> why they had such an appeal to me. Back then, I probably 
would
> have said that I liked my comics the way I liked my rocknroll:
> raw, not slick. I might not have known the word "unpretentious"
> back then, but that was part of the appeal--the same appeal
> that old b-movies, or "paperback original" crime fiction,
> or rock'n'roll bands like the Flamin Groovies had.
> I didn't buy many comics in the late 70s, but in the early 80s
> I began buying them again and during that period, the waning
> days of Charlton, its output was just plain odd. You'd never 
know
> what you were going to get--old reprints, unpublished stuff,
> even amateur work. By that time, for me, the mainstream 
comics
> industry had become so stylized and slick--and had become
> a kind of "cult" interest whose main audience seemed to me to 
be
> the kind of people who would spend days playing
> Dungeons and Dragons. Charlton's output was the exact 
opposite
> of that--in fact, I remember the "comic shops" of the day in the
> early 80s (by that time, most mainstream comics sales 
seemed to have
> moved from regular newsstands to comic shops), at least in 
the
> areas where I lived, didn't stock Charltons, blaming either
> erratic publication schedules or lack of interest from their 
> customers.
> I've always loved old newspaper comic strips, and I always 
preferred
> genres like mystery-suspense, westerns, hard-boiled crime, 
etc. to
> superheroes and Tolkien-esque fantasy, so it always seemed 
like
> Charlton was the last remaining holdout against the 
overly-stylized
> and (to me, at least) pretentious direction in which comics 
were
> going and which (to me, at least) killed the broad audience that
> comics once had and have never since regained.
> There's a directness and gut-level appeal to an old HAUNTED 
comic
> or a FIGHTIN' ARMY comic that post-1985 Marvel and DC 
comics
> just don't possess, as fine and complex as their artwork may 
be,
> and as literary as the writing may be. If I want comics that are
> a harrowing study of the human condition, I'll dig out Harvey
> Pekar. If I want to see fine museum-quality artwork that I can 
study
> and admire, I'll look at my collection of oversized Burne 
Hogarth
> color Tarzan reprints. If I want an intellectual consideration of 
> comics-as-an-artform, I'll read Will Eisner or dig out Scott 
> McCloud's UNDERSTANDING COMICS.If I want the action and 
excitement and
> cheap thrills that the term "comic book" has always been 
associated
> with in my mind, I'll dig out some old Charltons.
> Now, I never did get into the romances or the Bobby 
Sherman-David
> Cassidy stuff, but 11 year old girls deserved THEIR comics too,
> and I always felt that stuff was paying the bills for the comics
> that I liked.
> Back in the 70s, I had occasion to travel long distances by bus,
> as I didn't own a car and air travel was out of the price range
> of most people, unlike today. I can remember picking up a 
fistful
> of Charlton Comics before each trip (I'd also pick up Boris 
Karloff
> Tales of Mystery and Dell's Ghosts, and of course the latest 
issue
> of CREEM), and always being taken away from my tedious bus 
trip
> to Vietnam, or the old West, or a haunted house in old New 
England,
> or Transylvania. The jagged-cut edges of pages, the off-white 
paper,
> the sometimes unreadable printing (did any of those 
advertisers
> ever demand their money back? I can remember not being 
able to read
> 2/3 of the advertisers' addresses!), all these things just added 
to
> the charm for me.
> And Charlton Comics still have that charm today for me, after 
all
> the years.
> I don't know if today's younger comics fans are going back and 
> rediscovering Charltons or not, but I'm glad that there are
> some good resources on the web about the company, its 
history,
> and its artists (and checklists and the like), so someone new
> to Charlton can get a little bit of background. You can still buy
> many Charlton comics fairly cheap today, so I hope new 
generations
> discover the hard-to-explain appeal of Charlton Comics.


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Dean (I think?) I'm still trying to find Peacemaker II's appearance in JLA 
from the "Judgement Day" cross over in JLI and JLTF - leading Mirror Master, 
Chromax, Ultraaa and SPellbinder in the League Busters (all of whom Captain 
Atom almost killed). I just got my comics out of storage and I should have 
issue numbers for you soon ; ) 

P.S. Yhr new variation of his costume was ok...though not to my liking, 
however, much better than Peacemaker II's in L.A.W.

Scott


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Dean,

If I get a chance tonight, I'll add the "Evil Eye" story to the files 
section. I don't see much point in putting it in the photos section, 
since it would be downsized to the point where it couldn't be read.

I've also got a Phantom issue or two from Charlton that I might add 
to the files sooner or later. Charlton did publish the Phantom long 
enough to make it appropriate.

Take care,
Jon

--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "hawkeyethemarksman" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> Sounds great. You might even be able to add it to the Photos 
section 
> as we haven't used up our limit here yet. But either way, I think 
the 
> membership would like to see it.
> 
> Dean


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I've added a folder with the cover to Charlton's 'The Thing' #14 (by 
Steve Ditko) and a seven-page pre-code horror story, "The Evil Eye," 
with artwork by Ditko. This material would be among some of the 
earliest Ditko work published, and it already displayed his 
distinctive style. Fair warning, this is pre-code horror from 
Charlton and, while it is a cut or two above horror stories from 
Harvey, Avon, Superior, Star, and other publishers who took graphic 
horror to tasteless extremes, contains some graphic scenes of 
mutilation and torture. This is also quite dissimilar to EC's horror 
work in its tone and the story is not levened with bad puns, black 
humor, or even the basic conservatism of most horror literature.

I think most of you will find this to be interesting, and it might 
elicit more commentary about Ditko's work in general.

Take care,
Jon


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Thanks a bunch Jon. I'm sure the membership here will enjoy this one. 
I know I did when I first read it over at your Atomic, Silver, and 
Gold Club. Thanks for taking time to share it with us.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Dean Webb" <dwebb@g...> wrote:
> Thanks a bunch Jon. I'm sure the membership here will enjoy this 
one. 
> I know I did when I first read it over at your Atomic, Silver, and 
> Gold Club. Thanks for taking time to share it with us.
> 
> Dean

I'll be curious to see the reaction to "The Evil Eye," Dean. It's 
from a period in Charlton's history that doesn't seem to evoke much 
nostalgia here and I'm sure the gruesome elements aren't what many 
would expect from Ditko nor from Charlton.

One of these days, I'll also add the first issue of Charlton's 
version of 'The Phantom'. I realise that isn't a title or a character 
that is much associated with Charlton, but they did publish 
adventures of Mr. Walker for a good long while. I wish there was more 
Charlton material floating around on the 'Net, but Charlton stories 
just aren't very plentiful, which is rather unusual considering how 
prolific the company was and how long it was in business.

Take care,
Jon


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&#65279;Hi y'all

Can anyone tell me anything about Charlton's Billy the Kid???

Was he based on (or was he supposed to be) the historical Billy the=20

Kid (1860--1881)???    Did he make any appearances besides these:

The Masked Raider # 8 (Jul 1957);=20

Billy the Kid # 9=96121 (Nov 1957=96Dec 1976),=20

# 122=96123 (Sep 1977=96Oct 1977),=20

# 124=96153 (Feb 1978=96Mar 1983).=20=20

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanx.

Jake


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I'm not familiar with all of Billy's appearances, but I can vouch 
that the character was supposed to be William Bonney. Now the 
historical connection was pretty thin based on the issues I have. He 
was heroic rogue who wandered the West and had adventures. Whether in 
the early stages of the series there was an attempt to keep the 
character close to the biographical and legendary details of the real 
Bonney I can't say.

Dean


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It does occur to me that there might be (I think I actually have one) 
Modern Comics reprints of some of the Billy the Kid material. Modern 
was an imprint which reprinted numerous Charlton titles in the late 
70's. It was an attempt to get into the department stores I think.

Check out the link we have here to the Charlton Spotlight. That 
online version of the fanzine has a checklist. I haven't particularly 
looked for Billy stuff though.

Dean


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I too would expect to see more of this stuff popping up on the web. 
It may have to do with the complicated ownership questions about the 
bulk of the original Charlton material. Richard Broughton claims 
rights to almost everything not licensed, save for the Action Heroes 
and E-Man. That would account for the humor, ghost, war, western, and 
assorted adventure material. Ditko has reprinted some of his classic 
Charlton ghost stories in his Package series so he might have gotten 
the rights to his stuff. Still one would think the older stuff might 
sneak out from time to time.

Dean


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&#65279;Thanks Dean, I suspected that the similarities were slight.  I went 
to the Charlton Spotlight link
you suggested maintained by Ramon Schenk but it had no info on 
Charlton's Billy the Kid.  It
did have this interesting bit about an appearance in a Marvel comic: 

TWO-GUN KID # 80 (Marvel) -- "Showdown with Billy the Kid" Steve 
Skeates script only
(Larry Lieber plot); Dick Ayers / Mike (Mickey Demeo) Esposito; 17pp. 

It might be interesting to compare/contrast these two versions.  
Ramon's Steve Skeates checklist
lists no Billy the Kid scripts so I suspect they were mostly written 
by Joe Gill.  BTW, does
anyone know the range of issues of Billy illustrated by Jose Delbo?  
Ditto Cheyenne Kid by
Luis Dominguez?  

I didn't buy a whole lot of Charlton's back then, but they're 
starting to look a lot better in
retrospect.  The writers knew how to tell stories with a beginning, a 
middle, and an end, in a
number of genres.  A lost art.

P.S.  As a kid with limited funds most of my money was spent on DC 
Comics with their brighter
colors and better paper.

Jake





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Guys and gals:

Allow me to chip in with my two cents about Billy the Kid. 
Namely, "his" appearances at DC Comics.

Here, the historical "William Bonny" (the real name of Billy The Kid) 
was a FEMALE (yes, you read that correctly) who was a tomboy, and who 
POSES (disguised herself as)....a male. Namely, cut her hair short, 
presumably stuffed her shirt to appear as a male, and called herself 
Billy the Kid. 
Believe it or not, these stories-while they may sound corny-were 
quite well done, in DC's 1970's All-Star Western. A title which later 
became Weird Western Tales.

The REAL Billy the Kid in history was a vicious murderer of men 
numerous times. He loved killing, and frequently shot men dead. Often 
for things like "He looked at me funny, or failed to call me sir", 
etcetera.

He was in fact one of the WORST of the badmen in the old west, and a 
coward. He would shoot men in the back, often just for target 
practise. He had to be hunted down by the law and killed.
In short, the real Billy the Kid was no here.

When I was a kid, I recall an old b and w movie called (believe it or 
not...) BILLY THE KID VERSUS DRACULA. I don't know who was in it. I 
would be interested in any info on this film, if anyone knows. 
Despite the title, I recall it was quite good. But then again, I was 
a kid. I don't know how it would stand up now, some 35 years 
later.....
Phil Latter


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Hi, Joe!
Thanks for responding. Please contact me off-list if you'd like
(django660@yahoo.com).
Recently, I've been reading some of the Charlton Phantom and
Jungle Jim comics, as well as some hot-rod comics (now THERE'S
a genre that should be revived, with the surge in popularity of
NASCAR), and my favorites of course the various "Ghost" and
mystery comics. (I've also been reading some of Marvel's 1970s
reprints of the 1950s Atlas mystery/ghost material)
I'm happy to say that my 13-yr-old daughter has been enjoying
some of my GHOST MANOR and HAUNTED comics recently.
Is there anyone else on this list whose children have gotten
into any of your Charlton comics? The appeal of a lot of
Charlton's output is timeless...
The licensed characters such as Jungle Jim or the Phantom
really hold up well--

Greetings to all from South Texas...


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You're entirely right about the real Billy The Kid.
I'm writing because I'm glad there's someone else who enjoyed
the film Billy The Kid Vs. Dracula!!! Now THERE is a film that
was comic-book like...and I mean that as a compliment.
I saw it as a kid on a double bill with another film called something
like Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter (not sure of that
title on that one), although Billy the Kid Vs. Dracula was the
better of the two.
It starred the great John Carradine as Dracula, and a guy named
Chuck Courtney as Billy The Kid.
It was directed by William Beaudine, one of his last films,
the man who did so many excellent Bowery Boys films.
I have many of the Charlton Billy the Kid comics, but missed
those DC's you discuss.
I was into old-west lore as a kid (I even bought Charlton's
REAL WEST or whatever it was, along with TRUE WEST and 
FRONTIER TIMES from another publisher...pardon me
if I got the titles of RW and TW confused), so I knew that the 
depiction
of Billy The Kid in the comic books and in those many old 1940s
movies with Buster Crabbe (where Billy's last name was Carson!)
was a complete fantasy. There was an interesting film out in the
early 70s, it played my local drive-in, called DIRTY LITTLE BILLY
with Michael J. Pollard as Billy The Kid--don't know if it was
ever on video and my memories of it are vague today. While it
didn't depict him as the complete amoral psycho he was, it did depict 
him
as something of a loser and at the time I remember thinking
that it was a welcome antidote to the many depictions of Billy
as a wholesome hero or a "misunderstood" underdog.
I've purchased some of the fine AC comic reprints of western material,
but is anyone doing NEW Western comics today? Westerns are a genre
that adapts well to the comic book. But I guess just as westerns
in the movies are not that popular--every few years a new one comes
out--it's probably the same with comic books. And I can't imagine
the superhero-fantasy comic fans I know in their teens and twenties
being interested in Wild Bill Hickok or screen legends such as
the late Lash LaRue who were larger-than-life figures and wound
up being mythologized just like actual old west characters.
Oh well...

django
from south Texas USA


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Django:

Did you look up the Billy the Kid versus dracula movie in Leonard 
Maltin's movie guide book-?

I loved this film as a kid. As I said, I don't know how it would 
stand up now. 
One Chartlon western comics series that I only have a few of in my 
collection is Cheyenne Kid. I rather like these. I also fondly 
remember the Charlton western Gunmaster. But unfortunately I don't 
have these anymore. I recall gunmaster had a white outfit with purple 
(?) mask, and a partner called gunboy or bulletboy.

I'd love to see Billy the Kid vs. Dracula again. That would be a 
hoot!!

Phil Latter


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William "One Shot" Beaudine did indeed direct both 'Billy the Kid vs. 
Dracula' and 'Jesse James Meets Frankenstine's Daughter'. 
Surprisingly, Beaudine did not invent the vampire western, although 
I'll have to check my copy to see who did direct 'Curse of the 
Undead', the original vampire western and a much better film.

New western comic book stories are being published regularly, but not 
in the States. Germans are probably the biggest fans of Western comic 
books, with the Italians, Spanish, and French not being far behind. I 
know of one western title, 'Zagor', which is published in Italy, the 
scandanavian countries, Belgium, and Brazil, and has been running in 
at least one or more of those countries  for the past twenty-five 
years. 'Blueberry' might even be more popular than 'Zagor' and has 
been around for thirty plus year but it started out as a newspaper 
strip and quickly graduated to album status. If you want western 
comics, there are lots of them out there but you had better be at 
least bi-lingual if you want to read any of them.

Take care,
Jon

--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "django660" <django660@y...> wrote:
> You're entirely right about the real Billy The Kid.
> I'm writing because I'm glad there's someone else who enjoyed
> the film Billy The Kid Vs. Dracula!!! Now THERE is a film that
> was comic-book like...and I mean that as a compliment.
> I saw it as a kid on a double bill with another film called 
something
> like Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter (not sure of that
> title on that one), although Billy the Kid Vs. Dracula was the
> better of the two.
> It starred the great John Carradine as Dracula, and a guy named
> Chuck Courtney as Billy The Kid.
> It was directed by William Beaudine, one of his last films,
> the man who did so many excellent Bowery Boys films.
> I have many of the Charlton Billy the Kid comics, but missed
> those DC's you discuss.
> I was into old-west lore as a kid (I even bought Charlton's
> REAL WEST or whatever it was, along with TRUE WEST and 
> FRONTIER TIMES from another publisher...pardon me
> if I got the titles of RW and TW confused), so I knew that the 
> depiction
> of Billy The Kid in the comic books and in those many old 1940s
> movies with Buster Crabbe (where Billy's last name was Carson!)
> was a complete fantasy. There was an interesting film out in the
> early 70s, it played my local drive-in, called DIRTY LITTLE BILLY
> with Michael J. Pollard as Billy The Kid--don't know if it was
> ever on video and my memories of it are vague today. While it
> didn't depict him as the complete amoral psycho he was, it did 
depict 
> him
> as something of a loser and at the time I remember thinking
> that it was a welcome antidote to the many depictions of Billy
> as a wholesome hero or a "misunderstood" underdog.
> I've purchased some of the fine AC comic reprints of western 
material,
> but is anyone doing NEW Western comics today? Westerns are a genre
> that adapts well to the comic book. But I guess just as westerns
> in the movies are not that popular--every few years a new one comes
> out--it's probably the same with comic books. And I can't imagine
> the superhero-fantasy comic fans I know in their teens and twenties
> being interested in Wild Bill Hickok or screen legends such as
> the late Lash LaRue who were larger-than-life figures and wound
> up being mythologized just like actual old west characters.
> Oh well...
> 
> django
> from south Texas USA


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I've managed to snag quite a few of these over the years. I was first 
attracted to the series because of its nominal connection to 
Judomaster and then the similarity to the Lone Ranger can't be 
dismissed. The white outfit and the blue mask were very striking. 
Actually the series is most similar to Marvel's Two-Gun Kid. The 
Gunmaster is a milktoast gunsmith (seems an odd combination) and he 
and his youthful sidekick jump around the west foiling crimes and 
whatnot. He is generally recieved as a hero, but his mask does create 
the Lone Rangeresque mistaken-for-a-villain plot twist once in a 
while. There is some great artwork on this series with Dick Giordano, 
Tony Tallarico, PAM, and others doing some dandy work. The oddest 
thing about the series (which ran in Six-Gun Heroes too by the way) 
was that Bullet Boy's secret identity name was "Tellub". The people 
of the town must have been especially dense not to figure this one 
out.

Dean


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   I'd like to see the western comics which used to be published 
by charlton re-released by the Canadian publisher, ACG, which 
is currently publishing quite a few comics from charlton and ACG 
in new anthologies. (Mostly the horror and war comics, with quite 
a few "odd" issues, such as humor ("Dizzy Dames") and sword 
and sorcery. Recently there was even a collection of comics 
drawn by Sanho Kim and titled something like "Manga Horror"!) I 
believe this new ACG has published western comics too, though 
not as often as the other stuff. I've only gotten a couple issues 
because of the spotty distribution in my area. (It's annoying, if 
understandable, that the stores order only a couple issues of 
any of these titles and so they disappear fast; the store owners 
don't seem interested in ordering more copies when I've pointed 
out that every copy has been sold. Too bad. The company also 
has a really strange set of policies about self promotion...they 
advertise titles coming out that apparently never exist...and 
NEVER mention titles that DO come out! And...they don't seem to 
have any kind of checklist or any way for a fan to know what to 
look for! Titles appear, then disappear--they publish a LOT of 
one-shots! It's almost impossible to keep on top of what they're 
putting out.
   But at least they're putting out stuff in "unpopular" genres like 
westerns, war stories, and sword & sorcery. If you live near a 
comics store, it might be worthwhile to inbquire about these 
titles.
   (So few copies of these titles are available in my area I've 
actuallyt thought of buying multiple copies as a way of making a 
profit---the darn things are going to become some kind of 
collectors' items in the near future simply because of rarity, not 
because of inherent quality! Why I haven't done so is because 
the dang things will be SO rare, that there will be no demand!! 
Even collectors won't know they exist!)
   I wish the company was willing to put up a website, or even just 
have accurate house ads promoting other titles and upcoming 
books!
   Anyway...the IS a certain following for western comics. The 
western fans have just been pretty well driven from the comics 
stores these last ten years.


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Someone from ACG was on either this list or Charlton-1. Maybe they 
are reading now, and might take notice.

Back in the '60s, the two local TV stations ran movies in the 
afternoon (The Big Show on WKRG and The Early Show on WALA). They ran 
a little of everything, but tended to show more monster movies than 
anything else during the summer. At one time or another they showed 
all three movies: "Billy the Kid vs. Dracula", "Jesse James Meets 
Frankenstein's Daughter", and "Curse of the Undead". I saw them all, 
but the only one I remember any part of is "Curse" (I remember how 
the vampire gunslinger died".
Yeah, I can see it now, sitting back with a root beer Fizzie and a 
sack of Golden Flake Potato Chips, putting down a copy of Son of 
Vulcan to watch "I Was A Teenage Werewolf", "I Was A Teenage 
Frankenstein", "Blood Of Dracula", or "How to Make a Monster"... Kids 
these days don't know what they're missing...


--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chasmithalpha <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>    I'd like to see the western comics which used to be published 
> by charlton re-released by the Canadian publisher, ACG, which 
> is currently publishing quite a few comics from charlton and ACG 
> in new anthologies. (Mostly the horror and war comics, with quite 
> a few "odd" issues, such as humor ("Dizzy Dames") and sword 
> and sorcery. Recently there was even a collection of comics 
> drawn by Sanho Kim and titled something like "Manga Horror"!) I 
> believe this new ACG has published western comics too, though 
> not as often as the other stuff. I've only gotten a couple issues 
> because of the spotty distribution in my area. (It's annoying, if 
> understandable, that the stores order only a couple issues of 
> any of these titles and so they disappear fast; the store owners 
> don't seem interested in ordering more copies when I've pointed 
> out that every copy has been sold. Too bad. The company also 
> has a really strange set of policies about self promotion...they 
> advertise titles coming out that apparently never exist...and 
> NEVER mention titles that DO come out! And...they don't seem to 
> have any kind of checklist or any way for a fan to know what to 
> look for! Titles appear, then disappear--they publish a LOT of 
> one-shots! It's almost impossible to keep on top of what they're 
> putting out.
>    But at least they're putting out stuff in "unpopular" genres 
like 
> westerns, war stories, and sword & sorcery. If you live near a 
> comics store, it might be worthwhile to inbquire about these 
> titles.
>    (So few copies of these titles are available in my area I've 
> actuallyt thought of buying multiple copies as a way of making a 
> profit---the darn things are going to become some kind of 
> collectors' items in the near future simply because of rarity, not 
> because of inherent quality! Why I haven't done so is because 
> the dang things will be SO rare, that there will be no demand!! 
> Even collectors won't know they exist!)
>    I wish the company was willing to put up a website, or even just 
> have accurate house ads promoting other titles and upcoming 
> books!
>    Anyway...the IS a certain following for western comics. The 
> western fans have just been pretty well driven from the comics 
> stores these last ten years.


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Thanks for the info on the western comics and vampire westerns.

I am a huge zorro fan and collector.(speaking of westerns) and also a 
Blueberry fan/collector.

This is also probably a good place to mention that I am always 
looking for new people to trade both comics and want lists with. I 
trade by mail with some people, based on each other's want lists. 
Anyone interested?

I am currently trading with 3 people, including one of whom is a 
member to this charlton bullseye group. 

Phil Latter


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Folks: earlier we were talking about Billy The Kid.

For some real-life info on the REAL LIFE Billy The Kid, go to EBAY, 
punch in item#  736292291  which is a Billy The Kid watch with his 
real photograph on it. It gives some interesting historical info with 
it on the REAL LIFE Billy The Kid.

William Bonney (Billy The Kid) was gunned down by sheriff Pat Garrett 
before Billy's 22nd birthday, etc...

Phil Latter


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Re Billy , anyone remember that " Jasse James " episode of The Brady
Bunch ? 


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CharltonBullseye 
group.

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You can access this file at the URL

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I'm slowly adding the classic Charlton "Phantom of 1776" story, by 
the late great Don Newton, to the files section. It might take me the 
rest of the day and possibly part of tomorrow before I'm finished (I 
have the cover and the first five pages in at this point). Anyone who 
is impatient to read that story can find it in the files section 
at 'International Comics Club' and, with one exception, anyone in 
this group is welcomed to join that group, even if it's only long 
enough to read the Phantom story. For anyone impatient and/or 
interested the URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/internationalcomicsclub

I will be adding three pages of the book here that aren't available 
at "International," a house subscription advertisement and the two 
pages of the letters page. Bear with me, and the Phantom issue will 
be finished reasonably soon.

Take care,
Jon




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Thanks Jon. Don Newton's take on the Phantom transformed the 
character for me. For the first time, I got a sense of the inherent 
violence in the Phantom's world. The slicker versions of the Phantom 
are excellent, but they effectively hide some of the darker aspects 
to the Phantom legend.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., CharltonBullseye@y... wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CharltonBullseye 
> group.
> 
>   File        : /Phantom of 1776 (Newton)/Phantom_74_03.jpg 
>   Uploaded by : jfglade <jfglade@y...> 
>   Description : Story and art by Don Newton 
> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/files/Phantom%20of%
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> 
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
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> 
> jfglade <jfglade@y...>

You know, it puzzles me why when you click on the link in one of 
these notices it takes you to a page that insists that the file is 
not on the server. This happens in every Uahoo group I'm in. The best 
thing to do it seems is just go to the files section and access it 
from there.

Bill


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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the mysteries of file uploaded notices, the rest of you can read the 
last issue of 'The Phantom' that was published by Charlton. It was a 
pity the Charlton Phantom series had to end, but at least it ended 
with a superb issue.

Enjoy,
Jon


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What was the opinion of the Lee Falk about Don Newton's very vivid 
and rather different take on the classic hero? I know that many 
license holders were unhappy with Charlton work in the 70's, but I've 
never heard directly if the Phantom folks and Lee Falk in particular 
were unhappy about it. Why did Charlton lose the franchise, when the 
fans were just getting excited about it? Was it another instance of 
great fan reaction but pitiful sales or what?

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Dean Webb" <dwebb@g...> wrote:
> What was the opinion of the Lee Falk about Don Newton's very vivid 
> and rather different take on the classic hero? I know that many 
> license holders were unhappy with Charlton work in the 70's, but 
I've 
> never heard directly if the Phantom folks and Lee Falk in 
particular 
> were unhappy about it. Why did Charlton lose the franchise, when 
the 
> fans were just getting excited about it? Was it another instance of 
> great fan reaction but pitiful sales or what?
> 
> Dean

If there is a member or two of the Phans of the Phantom organisation 
here, he or they might be able to tell you what Falk thought of 
Newton's take on the Phantom. I don't believe it is mentioned on 
the "Deep Woods" website, and it might be a good question to pose 
over at International where there are a few official members of Phans 
of the Phantom.

As far as why Charlton folded the Phantom title, it appears to have 
been entirely as a result of sales. That's why I included the letters 
pages to the issue I posted, since they essentially bid farewell to 
the Charlton readership. Read them for yourself and tell me what you 
think. You'll also notice that the Phantom isn't listed on the 
subscription advertisement.

Good question,
Jon


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Dean Webb" <dwebb@g...> wrote:
> What was the opinion of the Lee Falk about Don Newton's very vivid 
> and rather different take on the classic hero? I know that many 
> license holders were unhappy with Charlton work in the 70's, but 
I've 
> never heard directly if the Phantom folks and Lee Falk in 
particular 
> were unhappy about it. Why did Charlton lose the franchise, when 
the 
> fans were just getting excited about it? Was it another instance of 
> great fan reaction but pitiful sales or what?
> 
> Dean






...I believe the Phantom's discontinuation was , more or less , at 
the same time as C. dropping the other outside-property liscenced 
titles thet had at the time - the other KFSs , both action and humor 
( Blondie , BBailey . ) , the Hanna/Barbera group , the then-current 
TV ( $6M Man , etc. ) - Actually , at the same time in mid-1976 , 
approximately , that they stopped all production of new material , 
and went into a " reprint/as yet unpublished yet " mode . I 
distinctly remember an issue of The Comic Reader , at this time , 
running a " why did Charlton go under ? " point/counterpoint .
  Of course , in their Charlton-like manner , Charlton proceeded to 
undercut the finality of this by stumbling along for ten or so 
years , alternating reprint periods with half-hearted attempts to 
begin publishing new material , all the time periodically " going out 
of business for the last , last , time "/starting up again , but 
then , if they didn't do that , they wouldn't be Charlton !!!!!!!!!
  ( I mean , I guess , cosmically speaking , presumably the Phantom 
comic wasn't sellin enough copies in general , likewise C.'s other 
circa-'76 titles , or else the guys up front would've been happy...)
  Re that sub ad: , I posted , yesterday , something that didn't go 
up...that ad lists a Hagar The Horrible title . Presumably the 
material prepared for that was the material that A-Plus ( now ACG , 
then...) published , in the mid-90s , saying it was C. prepared for 
material...
  Replying to J. F. Glade , I'll assume that Falk found the Newton 
material satisfactory , until I hear otherwise...However , at the 
Deep Woods site/Phantom Phorum board , the editor , anyway , has made 
it clear that he loathes...Great , now I've forgotton his name , the 
Texan...'s work !!!!!!! He likes Newton , however , and most of 
Newton's stories have been reprinted by the Frew Australian comic , " 
using a digital bleeding process to reprint an actual color comic in 
a pseudo-black and white " , apparently !!!!!!!!! 


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...Pat Boyette...Uv Cawss , 'tis P. B....Eenyhoo , Guran ( of the DW 
site ) , plus the fellow who collaborated w/him on the info 
part...LOASTH Pat Boyette's art , on the 70s C.-PHANTOM . I'm not 
sure ,a ctually , how many other peeps there have seen any 
Charlton...were they distributed outside of North America...?.......
--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "joegouldiii" <joegouldiii@y...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "Dean Webb" <dwebb@g...> wrote:
> > What was the opinion of the Lee Falk about Don Newton's very 
vivid 
> > and rather different take on the classic hero? I know that many 
> > license holders were unhappy with Charlton work in the 70's, but 
> I've 
> > never heard directly if the Phantom folks and Lee Falk in 
> particular 
> > were unhappy about it. Why did Charlton lose the franchise, when 
> the 
> > fans were just getting excited about it? Was it another instance 
of 
> > great fan reaction but pitiful sales or what?
> > 
> > Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...I believe the Phantom's discontinuation was , more or less , at 
> the same time as C. dropping the other outside-property liscenced 
> titles thet had at the time - the other KFSs , both action and 
humor 
> ( Blondie , BBailey . ) , the Hanna/Barbera group , the then-
current 
> TV ( $6M Man , etc. ) - Actually , at the same time in mid-1976 , 
> approximately , that they stopped all production of new material , 
> and went into a " reprint/as yet unpublished yet " mode . I 
> distinctly remember an issue of The Comic Reader , at this time , 
> running a " why did Charlton go under ? " point/counterpoint .
>   Of course , in their Charlton-like manner , Charlton proceeded to 
> undercut the finality of this by stumbling along for ten or so 
> years , alternating reprint periods with half-hearted attempts to 
> begin publishing new material , all the time periodically " going 
out 
> of business for the last , last , time "/starting up again , but 
> then , if they didn't do that , they wouldn't be Charlton !!!!!!!!!
>   ( I mean , I guess , cosmically speaking , presumably the Phantom 
> comic wasn't sellin enough copies in general , likewise C.'s other 
> circa-'76 titles , or else the guys up front would've been happy...)
>   Re that sub ad: , I posted , yesterday , something that didn't go 
> up...that ad lists a Hagar The Horrible title . Presumably the 
> material prepared for that was the material that A-Plus ( now ACG , 
> then...) published , in the mid-90s , saying it was C. prepared for 
> material...
>   Replying to J. F. Glade , I'll assume that Falk found the Newton 
> material satisfactory , until I hear otherwise...However , at the 
> Deep Woods site/Phantom Phorum board , the editor , anyway , has 
made 
> it clear that he loathes...Great , now I've forgotton his name , 
the 
> Texan...'s work !!!!!!! He likes Newton , however , and most of 
> Newton's stories have been reprinted by the Frew Australian 
comic , " 
> using a digital bleeding process to reprint an actual color comic 
in 
> a pseudo-black and white " , apparently !!!!!!!!!


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   Over at the Earth_2 club, we got onto to the
subject of metafictional charachters-they only exist
in works of fiction in other works of fiction. I remembered
that an issue of The Question had him reading
an issue of Watchmen, but I could not pin it down.


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I've never read a DC issue of the Question (not a reflection on the 
quality, but the artwork just isn't my cup of tea), so I can't speak 
to your question. I will say that seems likely as game comics folks 
would like to play.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., "docsavage80" <docsavage80@y...> wrote:
>    Over






...Calvin & Hobbes' " Hamster Huey And The Gooey Cabooie " , pur'aps ?
  Hey , gittin' back more OT , WATCHMEN's universe was . of course , 
dominated by pirate comics...DC's been ( too much so , thinks I ) " 
tasteful " with that " towering masterpiece of the super-hero 
critique " , Watchmen , never(?) doing any continuations...Pirates , 
mebbe ? More later.....

 at the Earth_2 club, we got onto to the
> subject of metafictional charachters-they only exist
> in works of fiction in other works of fiction. I remembered
> that an issue of The Question had him reading
> an issue of Watchmen, but I could not pin it down.


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http://www.greenarrowfansite.com/reviews/QUESTION.html


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Folks:

I was just telling my Charlton Bullseye Group member (and email 
friend Jim in Florida)...how, for numerous years, I kept sending lots 
and lots and lots of LOCs to DC Comics, to try to convince them to 
REVIVE the character called CODENAME: ASSASSIN.
This was a one-shot strip that only ever appeared once: in a single 
issue of First Issue Special, a 1970's anthology title. Also the 
title where Travis Morgan a.k.a The Warlord first appeared, as well.

Codename: Assassin was a costumed, masked superhero whose costume 
most closely resembled the Green Lantern villain, Blackhand.

This character could project deadly (even lethal) force bolts from 
his mind, and could levitate eg: run on air ala The Trickster. And 
all of this was explained as being as a result of his great powers of 
telekenesis. This hero had two very unlikely "Kirbyesque" sidekicks, 
which looked like sideshow monsters of the KIRBY TYPE.

But to me, CODENAME: ASSASSIN was fascinating! Truly unique. Oddly, 
the character never, ever appeared again. 
I kept writing to DC on and off for years, asking them to revive this 
neat character in Batman titles. I thought it would be cool to see 
this character hunted down by Batman.

Does anyone else remember -or have a fondness for- this character-?
Dean-???

Phil Latter


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--- In CharltonBullseye@y..., chromium_foil <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> 
> I was just telling my Charlton Bullseye Group member (and email 
> friend Jim in Florida)...how, for numerous years, I kept sending 
lots 
> and lots and lots of LOCs to DC Comics, to try to convince them to 
> REVIVE the character called CODENAME: ASSASSIN.
> This was a one-shot strip that only ever appeared once: in a single 
> issue






...In the new story , Lady Cop could take it personal to catch him . 
And the Dingbats Of Danger Street and the Green Team could keep , in 
their loveably bummy way , Assasin from getting her --- Then , in a 
stinky dive/crack house , she finds someone who turns out to be the 
reincarnation of Atlas... 

 of First Issue Special, a 1970's anthology title. Also the 
> title where Travis Morgan a.k.a The Warlord first appeared, as well.
> 
> Codename: Assassin was a costumed, masked superhero whose costume 
> most closely resembled the Green Lantern villain, Blackhand.
> 
> This character could project deadly (even lethal) force bolts from 
> his mind, and could levitate eg: run on air ala The Trickster. And 
> all of this was explained as being as a result of his great powers 
of 
> telekenesis. This hero had two very unlikely "Kirbyesque" 
sidekicks, 
> which looked like sideshow monsters of the KIRBY TYPE.
> 
> But to me, CODENAME: ASSASSIN was fascinating! Truly unique. Oddly, 
> the character never, ever appeared again. 
> I kept writing to DC on and off for years, asking them to revive 
this 
> neat character in Batman titles. I thought it would be cool to see 
> this character hunted down by Batman.
> 
> Does anyone else remember -or have a fondness for- this character-?
> Dean-???
> 
> Phil Latter


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  I noticed that the sub ad in the Phantom file listed a Hagar The 
Horrible title . Anyone know anything about the plans for this 
never-released title ? 
  As I've writ here B4? , A-Plus ( later ACG , now...? ) issued a 
Hagar The Horrible comic , in the mid-90s , consisting of the 
material prepared for , at least one issue of , the never-published 
C. CB . 
  It both looked like a Charlton comic , and , SAID that it was a 
prepared-for-C. comic . " found in a filing cabinet " .



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I've seen this one around, but I've never been tempted even to open 
it up and take a peek. I will have to check next time I'm in the 
comics shop and see what you're talking about. The only First Issue 
Specials I snapped up at the time were those by Kirby like Atlas and 
Dingbats of Danger Street...more is the pity.

Dean



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EC has the reputation for sure, but for my money Charlton produced 
some of the most involving and intriguing horror/ghost/supernatural 
comics ever. EC had Craig, Krigstein, Wood, Davis, and many other 
great talents. But Charlton had Ditko (I think it's the best work of 
his career...call me crazy), Kim, Boyette, Staton, Zeck, and many 
great talents of its own. The array of Charlton ghost comic hosts is 
second to none, and the rich variety of characters like Doctor 
Graves, Baroness Bludd, Mr.Bones, Baron Weirwulf, Professor 
Coffin,and so many others cry out for creative back stories. 

How do the Charlton stories rack up against the classic EC comics 
which defined the genre? 

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Webb 
<sonofvulcan@a...>" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> EC has the reputation for sure, but for my money Charlton produced 
> some of the most involving and intriguing horror/ghost/supernatural 
> comics ever. EC had Craig, Krigstein, Wood, Davis, and many other 
> great talents. But Charlton had Ditko (I think it's the best work 
of 
> his career...call me crazy), Kim, Boyette, Staton, Zeck, and many 
> great talents of its own. The array of Charlton ghost comic hosts 
is 
> second to none, and the rich variety of characters like Doctor 
> Graves, Baroness Bludd, Mr.Bones, Baron Weirwulf, Professor 
> Coffin,and so many others cry out for creative back stories. 
> 
> How do the Charlton stories rack up against the classic EC comics 
> which defined the genre? 
> 
> Dean

I think you're asking us to compare apples and oranges, Dean. If you 
had asked how Charlton's pre-code horror comics compared to EC horror 
comics, it would be possible to make some generalities, but the 
Charlton books you mention (or at least the "hosts" and the artists 
you mention (with the exception of Ditko) are post-code. Granted, 
there was a form of post-code horror as practiced by several 
companies, Charlton among them, but it was so aware of what it 
couldn't do that it was a markedly different beast than pre-code 
horror.

I will say that I think EC's reputation as a horror publisher is 
inflated. The small company did create some classic stories, but by 
no means was everything they produced a masterpiece. EC also did not 
invent the horror comic, although many assume that they must have; 
Avon, ACG, and even Atlas were publishing horror comics before EC. 
Horror was, of course, one of the bandwagons that Charlton jumped on 
as did most smaller publishers, and from what I can tell and from 
what little I have seen, Charlton produced some gripping pre-code 
horror stories, and quite a bit of junk (just like EC). Charlton 
horror seems to have usually, but not always, taken itself more 
seriously than most EC horror. EC seems to have been a haven for 
talented artists, but Charlton was a training ground for developing 
artists; since reactions to art styles are largely subjective, one 
can find artwork as pleasing or as irritating from either company.

It will be interesting to see if you have many takers on this topic.

Take care,
Jon


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What I wasn't clear about was that both EC and Charlton in different 
times were the dominant producers of such supernatural material, and 
I wondered how they stacked up against each other. You are absolutely 
right that EC is pre-Code, but frankly I don't see that as precluding 
a comparison. DC gets a lot of cudos for its horror work from the 
70's (and it's pretty good for sure) but they didn't have the full 
complement of titles for the length of time that Charlton did. Marvel 
hardly dabbled in the field at all though I do have a fondness for 
the little that they did do. 

Dean


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Thanks to DC (and Dick Giordano) for salvaging the Action Heroes from 
the ruins of the Charlton empire. But after that initial worthwhile 
action, I have to say that DC's understanding and use of the Action 
Heroes has been at best tepid and at worst destructive. Few at the 
House of the Cape and the Cowl seemed to really have an understanding 
of the essence of the Charlton stars. I was largely absent from the 
proceedings at the time, but since I've dug around in back issue bins 
and I think I've gained a reasonable notion of how DC has handled the 
characters. (The exception here will the The Question.)

Blue Beetle has fared the best in my estimation. He is still Ted 
Kord, and while his personality has been portrayed as buffoonish at 
times in the Justice League, at least his backstory and look have 
remained constant with the Charlton original. Len Wein did a pretty 
good job early on in his series keeping true to the elements of the 
original.He remains recognizably the BB we know from the original 
Ditko series.

Captain Atom has had success, but sadly with a look alien to the 
original. His backstory has been reduced and to some extent lampooned 
as a 50's paranoid wish-fullfillment. The open mockery of the Ditko 
original is hurtfull to fans and undercut the relative effectiveness 
of the hero in my estimation. Cap's look at DC has never been good 
and sometimes outright ugly. Some artists do okay with the silver 
look, and some haven't got a clue how to handle the relative 
simplicity of the look. 

Peacemaker gets no respect. Creators seem to regard the character 
with disdain, and treat him like and idiot and eventually a madman. 
His ultimate destiny seems even to be in dispute. I liked the Pat 
Boyette original, and I am not ashamed to say the concept of a Man 
Who Loved Peace So Much He Was Willing to Fight For It isn't a 
foolish idea. The Comedian in the Watchmen is so far removed from the 
original inspiration that for quite a while I couldn't figure out who 
he was supposed to be.

Thunderbolt had a pretty good series considering. The character was 
updated and given some odd character details, but overall the look 
was true to the original and rather sharp. PAM was likely wise to 
pull the rights back, as DC would have eventually dissolved the 
character into an oddity or worse killed him off in Roulette's arena 
(see recent issues of JSA).

The Question is by all accounts done well by DC. I don't particularly 
like the update I've seen on covers and such, but his initial 
appearances in Blue Beetle were certainly true to the essence of the 
character. Of all the Action Heroes, the Question would seem to be 
the one least likely to succeed, yet seems to have done just that.

Judomaster has been ignored. Maybe that's a good thing, as I might 
not like the treatment he would get. When I have seen him, he's 
looked pretty good (I even liked the Tiger-inspired LAW outfit...so 
sue me). I would love to see more, but I don't expect to. I keep 
waiting for an explanation of the "new" Judomaster from JL Quarterly.

Nightshade looked the part in Suicide Squad, but the need to 
constantly redefine characters has now caught up to her and she is 
all but unrecognizable.

Sarge Steel serves well as a background character, and he is pretty 
consistent. In many ways, he has proven to be the most successful 
transfer, but largely by default. A mini-series with him would be a 
hoot. 

Son of Vulcan has been largely ignored except for War of the Gods and 
that was such a mess, that I can't even tell what was supposed to 
have happened to him by the end. 

So what do you all think?

Dean




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What is Sarge Steel's first name?

Good Luck Action Hero fans!

Dean


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I think that in all cases, DC did a poor job with the Charlton heroes, even 
when so-called more talented people were working on them.  Denny O'Neil, 
excellent writer that he was, botched the Question stories, not because they 
were bad, but because they changed the Question into a completely different 
character.  None of the original stories involving the various Charlton 
heroes was great, but each character had a flavor that was missing from the 
later DC incarnations, notwithstanding the idea that the people working on 
the DC versions were, perhaps, more talented. (And even that statement is not 
true, now that I think of it...think of Ditko, Boyette, Aparo, Mastroserio, 
Giordano on Sarge Steel, Pete Morisi.)


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, bigal4151@a... wrote:
> I think that in all cases, DC did a poor job with the Charlton 
heroes, even 
> when so-called more talented people were working on them.  Denny 
O'Neil, 
> excellent writer that he was, botched the Question stories, not 
because they 
> were bad, but because they changed the Question into a completely 
different 
> character.  None of the original stories involving the various 
Charlton 
> heroes was great, but each character had a flavor that was missing 
from the 
> later DC incarnations, notwithstanding the idea that the people 
working on 
> the DC versions were, perhaps, more talented. (And even that 
statement is not 
> true, now that I think of it...think of Ditko, Boyette, Aparo, 
Mastroserio, 
> Giordano on Sarge Steel, Pete Morisi.)
> 

I hated the changes to Captain Atom most of all. Taking his origin 
and early adventures and saying they were made up fantasy was... 
well, they were made up... AREN'T THEY ALL? The early '60s stories 
were fantasy stories, not science fiction. Now, I don't know about 
you, but I draw, I don't write, and _I_ could see ways to explain 
Cap's early adventures. The Silver Lady from Venus? Venus was a 
staging area for her world's conquest of Earth. They had ships 
floating in the upper atmosphere, ready to invade. The kid and the 
star? There is no reason Cap couldn't wrap a kind of protective 
bubble around the two of them, an take one of those sub-space short 
cuts Superman used to use (unless they've been Zero Houred or 
Crisised out of continuity) to getot a star with a radiation output 
just exactly what the kid needed. Reconciling backsories? Why bother? 
Unless it's a crossover, characters at DC pretty much ignore anything 
else going on in another character's comic book. There was no need to 
have Cap's background a secret. Neither Superman, Batman, nor any 
other DC hero ever felt the need to go meddle in his business. As a 
matter of fact, Only Nightshade (who worked in the same city) ever 
teamed up with him, as near as I can remember. 
The thing is, when all the universes were melded into one, continuity 
WOULD have changed. Blue Beetle might remember a case where Batman 
DID show up, and the two of them worked together (and not the buffoon 
from JLA BB, either). Cap might recall and instance when Superman 
showed up and helped him save some astronauts (or even vice versa). 
Judomaster would know several martial artists, such as Lady Shiva and 
Richard Dragon. And the thing is, Peacemaker went out after what we 
would call terrorists today; what is crazy about that? Okay, don't 
answer that question, but you know what I mean. Thunderbolt and Son 
of Vulcan may have fared the best, since one was pretty much kept 
intact, and the other ignored (and maybe killed-which could still be 
better).
What about a Captain Atom who has been a super-hero since 1961? ONe 
who fought for democracy for decades? One who could even mentor 
younger heroes? It has possibilities.


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Dean:

I win! I win! Sarge Steel's first name is....Sarge!!!!

Here's a tougher one: What is Phil Latter's first name?!!

WRONG! One million dollars (U.S., natch) goes to the party or parties 
who correctly guessed the answer to that skill-testing question: "Mr."

Mr. Phil Latter


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I kinda liked Captain Atom's revamped origin better than most DC charcters 
(revamped origins that is), mostly because it retained the Charlton one, 
despite it only being a fabricated government story. As for Peacemaker, as I 
said before, ever since his Vigilante appearance I've been hooked! Something 
about an insane hero who fights terrorists still works for me in this day and 
age - I just wish he'd come back - or the other guy who was in Project 
Peacemaker (possibly the one who appeared leading the League busters in the 
Justice Leage crossover "Judgement Day"), or some how bring Christopher Smith 
(if indeed he really WAS Christopher Smith). It should be against the law to 
kill a Charlton character!!!! As for L.A.W., we can safely say it's outside 
Dc continuity, barring Nightshade's new look...for now anyways (until Geoff 
Johns or someone turns her back).

Scott Mateo


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The problem with the DC revamps of the Charlton characters was the writing.  
I sort of enjoyed Pat Broderick's art on Captain Atom and other comics in the 
eighties (I know that this might disqualify me as a judge of art with some 
people, but his art on the Marvel Captain Marvel was fun, also.)


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> I win! I win! Sarge Steel's first name is....Sarge!!!!
Correctamundo! Thanks for playing. 

Dean


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There was a time I loved Pat Broderick's work. I've gotten a little 
colder to it over the years, and the little bit of his Captain Atom 
work doesn't work especially for me. Broderick is a guy who benefits 
from tight inks, and the work on Cap seems too loose for my tastes.

But compared to some of the lame guys they are trotting out to draw 
comics these days, I would take classic Pat Broderick back in a quick 
minute.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, bigal4151@a... wrote:
> The problem with the DC revamps of the Charlton characters was the 
writing.






...I , in the earlyish 90s , got a complete? run of the Bates-written 
Captain Atom cheap ( like , 36 issues for $25 , thogh missing one 
annual tie-in ) , and thought it was pretty good , though the g-
canning/retconning of his old adventutres - as w/much immediately 
post-Crisis DC - rankled some , and might've done so more were I more 
familiar/emotionally tied to the originals .
  It seemed 2 B an interesting attempt on Cary Bates' part to write " 
complex " comi-book writing , anlike the sorta simplistic , " back to 
basics " , mid-70s Schwartz style I tended to identify him with .

  
> I sort of enjoyed Pat Broderick's art on Captain Atom and other 
comics in the 
> eighties (I know that this might disqualify me as a judge of art 
with some 
> people, but his art on the Marvel Captain Marvel was fun, also.)
> 
> 
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, atomjla@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/22/02 6:42:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> > This early version of the L.A.W. is the first time the 
> > Charlton heroes team-up.
> 
> Actually, Dean there's an issue of Justice League Quarterly that 
features 
> Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and Thunderbolt, and the 
group is put 
> together by Sarge Steel. The story is written by Paul Kupperberg, 
and 
> Peacemaker kinda gets a nod (when a soldier says, "I've my old 
Peacemaker 
> handy" and pulls out a pistol), unfortunately the story came out 
about the 
> same time as his untimely demise (which Paul was totally against). 
I'm sure 
> die-hard Charlton fans will say it's not the greatest story, but 
all will 
> agreee it totally blew L.A.W. away (which that mini 
seemingly "forgot" these 
> events even happened). 
> 
> Blue Beetle summed it up best at the end when he asked the others 
if they 
> felt a "strange connection" between them and suggested that they 
should 
> perhaps team up again.
> 
> 
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Does anyone remember who the creative team was on the DC comic LAW?
Just curious as to whether or not I missed anything.


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "django660" <django660@y...> 
wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I haven't posted before to this list, although
> I've been on it for awhile. This topic, though, is something I just
> had to put in my own two-cents-worth on.
> When I was buying Charlton ghost-suspense and hotrod-racing comics
> as a kid back in the late 60s and early 70s, I didn't really know
> why they had such an appeal to me. Back then, I probably would
> have said that I liked my comics the way I liked my rocknroll:
> raw, not slick. I might not have known the word "unpretentious"
> back then, but that was part of the appeal--the same appeal
> that old b-movies, or "paperback original" crime fiction,
> or rock'n'roll bands like the Flamin Groovies had.
> I didn't buy many comics in the late 70s, but in the early 80s
> I began buying them again and during that period, the waning
> days of Charlton, its output was just plain odd. You'd never know
> what you were going to get--old reprints, unpublished stuff,
> even amateur work. By that time, for me, the mainstream comics
> industry had become so stylized and slick--and had become
> a kind of "cult" interest whose main audience seemed to me to be
> the kind of people who would spend days playing
> Dungeons and Dragons. Charlton's output was the exact opposite
> of that--in fact, I remember the "comic shops" of the day in the
> early 80s (by that time, most mainstream comics sales seemed to have
> moved from regular newsstands to comic shops), at least in the
> areas where I lived, didn't stock Charltons, blaming either
> erratic publication schedules or lack of interest from their 
> customers.
> I've always loved old newspaper comic strips, and I always preferred
> genres like mystery-suspense, westerns, hard-boiled crime, etc. to
> superheroes and Tolkien-esque fantasy, so it always seemed like
> Charlton was the last remaining holdout against the overly-stylized
> and (to me, at least) pretentious direction in which comics were
> going and which (to me, at least) killed the broad audience that
> comics once had and have never since regained.
> There's a directness and gut-level appeal to an old HAUNTED comic
> or a FIGHTIN' ARMY comic that post-1985 Marvel and DC comics
> just don't possess, as fine and complex as their artwork may be,
> and as literary as the writing may be. If I want comics that are
> a harrowing study of the human condition, I'll dig out Harvey
> Pekar. If I want to see fine museum-quality artwork that I can study
> and admire, I'll look at my collection of oversized Burne Hogarth
> color Tarzan reprints. If I want an intellectual consideration of 
> comics-as-an-artform, I'll read Will Eisner or dig out Scott 
> McCloud's UNDERSTANDING COMICS.If I want the action and excitement 
and
> cheap thrills that the term "comic book" has always been associated
> with in my mind, I'll dig out some old Charltons.
> Now, I never did get into the romances or the Bobby Sherman-David
> Cassidy stuff, but 11 year old girls deserved THEIR comics too,
> and I always felt that stuff was paying the bills for the comics
> that I liked.
> Back in the 70s, I had occasion to travel long distances by bus,
> as I didn't own a car and air travel was out of the price range
> of most people, unlike today. I can remember picking up a fistful
> of Charlton Comics before each trip (I'd also pick up Boris Karloff
> Tales of Mystery and Dell's Ghosts, and of course the latest issue
> of CREEM), and always being taken away from my tedious bus trip
> to Vietnam, or the old West, or a haunted house in old New England,
> or Transylvania. The jagged-cut edges of pages, the off-white paper,
> the sometimes unreadable printing (did any of those advertisers
> ever demand their money back? I can remember not being able to read
> 2/3 of the advertisers' addresses!), all these things just added to
> the charm for me.
> And Charlton Comics still have that charm today for me, after all
> the years.
> I don't know if today's younger comics fans are going back and 
> rediscovering Charltons or not, but I'm glad that there are
> some good resources on the web about the company, its history,
> and its artists (and checklists and the like), so someone new
> to Charlton can get a little bit of background. You can still buy
> many Charlton comics fairly cheap today, so I hope new generations
> discover the hard-to-explain appeal of Charlton Comics.

Charlton always had that underdog appeal.  Granted that some of their 
comics were godawful,they put out enough good comics, and had just 
enough talent, to be remembered.  This despite having the poorest 
printing I ever saw.  Recent ACG reprints in black and white look 
better to me than most of the Charlton color comics.  This is one 
reason I'm looking forward to Pure Images' upcoming b & w Ditko 
volume.


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In a message dated 12/22/02 6:47:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Does anyone remember who the creative team was on the DC comic LAW?
> Just curious as to whether or not I missed anything.

Bob Layton wrote and inked it, and Dick Giordano pencilled it. You'd expect 
better from them, however, Bob said at a convention that the story was 
originally slated to be an Elseworlds tale, but the powers that be decided it 
would be canon.


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Thanks.  I'll see if I can get a few cheap back issues.


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This second Peacemaker first appeared in Justice League International 
(formerly Justice League Europe) #65 on the last page, and got their butts 
kicked by Captain Atom leading a few League members in Justice League America 
#90:

At Maxwell Lord's urging, the U.N. sends the League Busters (Peacemaker, 
Ultraa, Mirror Master, Chromax, Spellbinder) to stop Captain Atom's team. 
(Note: Mirror Master (McCulloch) says that the Mirror Master in this tale was 
not him)

Sorry it took me so long to find the issues!

    





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...the Action Heroes , I assume that there'd been no new stories to 
date , though perhaps some cheap reprints , aince , to my knowledge , 
ACG/A-Plus has never , ever , commissioned and published any nes 
comics stoty of any kind , not just Charlton...


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I want to wish everyone a happy 2003. Those Charlton favorites keep 
popping up in the most unpredictable places, and hopefully we'll keep 
coming by here to talk about them. 

Be careful out there!

Dean


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  Among some Charlton villains that have shown up at DC,
I can think of Doctor Spectro, Jarvis Kord, the Ghost, Punch and Jewelee, Image and the Madmen. Can anyone think of any others?
     It would be particularly interesting if they showed
up at DC in the series of a non-Charlton derived charachter.

Does DC not own all Charlton characters? Roy Thomas stated
that they don't own Nature Boy, and some say that they don't own
the policeman Dan Garrett Blue Beetle, that this version of
the Blue Beetle's inclusion in the 1992 Cosmic trading cards
set (and as card#1 at that!) was a mistake. Anyone heard anything
about this?


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   Did Charlton come up with the phrase "action heroes"?
Did they use it before it became a common phrase for motion
picture heroes?


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They sure did. I believe it was Dick Giordano who coined the 
phrase "action heroes" to describe the then new wave of titles like 
Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Peacemaker, Thunderbolt, and Judomaster. 
He did it to set the line apart from the wildly popular Marvel and DC 
lines, and to establish the notion that these heroes were men of 
outstanding skill and courage and not so much men of super abilities. 
Captain Atom was the only one in the line with real superpowers. The 
phrase does not apply to the earlier heroes Dan Garrett-Blue Beetle 
and Son of Vulcan.

Kaji Dha!

Dean


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The Hooded One from Thunderbolt was a big part of that series both in 
the Charlton and DC versions. I can't swear to it, but it seems I've 
seen the Firey-Icer in some comic somwhere as a background villain. 
I'll have to check out recent issues of JSA.

I can't imagine why DC wouldn't own the original Blue Beetle as well 
as both Charlton versions since Charlton purchased the rights to the 
character outright. The stories of the original BB are in the public 
domain now, so maybe that is the real question. Can they be used 
without infringing DC's trademark. I would suspect not.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Webb 
<sonofvulcan@a...>" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> The Hooded One from Thunderbolt was a big part of that series both 
in 
> the Charlton and DC versions. I can't swear to it, but it seems 
I've 
> seen the Firey-Icer in some comic somwhere as a background villain. 
> I'll have to check out recent issues of JSA.
> 
> I can't imagine why DC wouldn't own the original Blue Beetle as 
well 
> as both Charlton versions since Charlton purchased the rights to 
the 
> character outright. The stories of the original BB are in the 
public 
> domain now, so maybe that is the real question. Can they be used 
> without infringing DC's trademark. I would suspect not.
> 
> Dean

I have a reprint comic ordered from ACG that is supposed to reprint a 
Golden Age Blue Beetle story. As with anything from ACG, it may or 
may not appear.


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  While watching VH1 love th 80's they were talking about the band 
Duran Duran. In a video the band did one of the members was reading a 
Fighten Army Charlton Comic. I think I might even have that issue. 
Just thought you would like that tidbit.


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In a message dated 1/3/03 6:57:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

>  While watching VH1 love th 80's they were talking about the band 
> Duran Duran. In a video the band did one of the members was reading a 
> Fighten Army Charlton Comic. I think I might even have that issue. 
> Just thought you would like that tidbit.
> 

The video was "Rio" and John Taylor is a HUGE comic book fan - he even had 
them add that part in the video. John was also responsible for bugging the 
producers let Duran Duran do the title song for View To A Kill.


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Yesterday, I was down at a newsstand. There I noticed that, yes, 
SWANK MAGAZINE is still being published, as the most recent issue was 
on the stands. 

That means that anyone who wanted to contact SWANK about Atlas Comics 
characters' copyrights could do so. It would be worth it even just 
for the interest of contacting them to see what they would say. 
Anyone care to pursue this and report back to us-?

Phil Latter ("the other Phil")


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I was pleasantly surprised to see a "new" Charlton comic on the 
stands yesterday. Now it wasn't new, and it technically isn't 
a "Charlton", but seeing that old red box with the little "CDC" in 
the corner was a neat blast from the past. It was another reprint 
volume from ACG, but this time under the Charlton name and on really 
good paper for a change. "Summer Love" was the title and it collected 
several classic romance stories, the lead featuring the Fab Four (the 
Beatles not Stan's and Jack's creations). Artwork by Vince Colletta 
and Tony Tallarico is included. I haven't yet had time to read it, 
but I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully this is the first of several 
quality reprints to come. The price is bit much (at $5.95)but with 
the better paper quality, it doesn't hurt as much and despite being 
B&W it is a good package.

Dean


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Jack Keller has passed away. According to reports he died January 2nd 
at the age of 80 after a long illness. I don't claim to be a big fan 
of Keller, but he was a familiar Charlton talent, and his Hot Rod 
books are unlike just about anything else I've seen in the comics 
world. I also well remember reading reprints of his Kid Colt stories 
for Marvel. 

Another class professional is gone. We lose more of our comics 
heritage each day.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, atomjla@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/3/03 6:57:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> >  While watching VH1 love th 80's they were talking about the band 
> > Duran Duran. In a video the band did one of the members was 
reading a 
> > Fighten Army Charlton Comic. I think I might even have that issue. 
> > Just thought you would like that tidbit.
> > 
> 
> The video was "Rio" and John Taylor is a HUGE comic book fan - he 
even had 
> them add that part in the video. John was also responsible for 
bugging the 
> producers let Duran Duran do the title song for View To A Kill.
> 
        Thanks for that information cool.
> 
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Which of Charlton's many Ghost Hosts is your favorite? I think 
Charlton might well have more than any other publisher, and from 
different periods too. Which ones stand out?

My all-time favorite is Doctor Graves. He is the absolute best of the 
host/adventurer combination of which there are several. His gray 
temples and his ubiquitous pipe give the Doc a level of cool no other 
host could match.

After that I would give the nod the Mr.Dedd of Ghostly Tales. His 
acid commentary was the funniest of any Charlton host. His whole 
demeanor was enigmatic. What the heck was he supposed to be anyway?

Third on my all-time list is Professor Coffin along with his niece 
Arachne. Again there was a great blend of hosting and participation. 
Midnight Tales is tour de force with its regular rotation of great 
70's Charlton talent. The thematic approach to the issues was a 
brilliant stroke.

Who are your faves?

Dean


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Hey guys,

Long time no post.  I'm in need of some help over here.  I need two 
favors from you guys.

(1) The Question site has been taken off of Brinkster.  I don't know 
why, but it has and now I'm looking for another free site to hold it 
that doesn't have nasty pop-up ads.  Anybody out there know of any 
that can handle at least 15 megs of graphics so I can get this baby 
up and running again?

(2) I'm working on a project regarding Sarge Steel, and I need as 
much information on the character and his adventures as possible.  
This includes knowing what issues of Judomaster he was in.  Can 
anyone provide scans of his series covers?

Thanks,
Eric Newsom
ericnewsom-at-lycos.com


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I found a couple of cover images for issues #4 and #8. Hope they get 
you started. Check them out in the new Sarge Steel Photo Album. 
Anyone can feel free to add to it.

Dean


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Midnight Tales is often overlooked when Charlton comics are 
discussed. Wayne Howard's classic take on the ghost/horror comic was 
a real treat of the 70's and in many ways might well have been the 
best thing they did during the decade. (E-Man fans hold on, I 
said "might".)

The stories are clever, and the talent is tremendous. Howard himself, 
Joe Staton, Tom Sutton, Don Newton, and Steve Ditko are a great core 
of talents to build a series around. But what separates Midnight 
Tales from all the other such comics was the use of a theme for each 
issue. It gave the comic a unity unheard of in such "anthology" 
comics. The stories were enjoyable unto themselves, but were also 
enjoyable all over again as parts of the greater storyline. 

But what is most distinctive about MT is the cover art. Howard's 
images are rich and detailed and gushing with humor. Unlike any other 
comics I've ever seen, the package which was Midnight Tales was a 
complete entertainment package and reflected an attention to detail. 
You could tell that Wayne Howard loved working on these comics. It 
made the reading almost a shared experience directly with the 
creator. 

Dean


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I went ahead and added the others that I have from the group.  Hope 
you guys don't mind.

--Eric


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...at least that cover , anyway ????????? I've always ( Well , a 
whie , anyway !!!!!!! ) thoght he exceles at a certain n1960s kind of 
private eye/spy thing . Did anybody else ever have that DC-published 
graphic novel of Modesty Blaise he drew ? 'Twas 1960s , set , 
actually , though 'twas not massively palayed up within the art... 


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Yes, Giordano did draw Sarge Steel, in fact, as far as the Charlton heroes 
go, I'd consider him THE Sarge Steel artist as much as I consider Ditko the 
Captain Atom or Blue Beetle artist.


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In a message dated 1/19/03 6:50:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
joegouldiii@yahoo.com writes:


> ...at least that cover , anyway ????????? I've always ( Well , a 
> whie , anyway !!!!!!! ) thoght he exceles at a certain n1960s kind of 
> private eye/spy thing . Did anybody else ever have that DC-published 
> graphic novel of Modesty Blaise he drew ? 'Twas 1960s , set , 
> actually , though 'twas not massively palayed up within the art... 
> ---------------------
> I ahve not seen what you are refering to, but Dick drew the bulk of the 
> SARGE STEEL material.
> I have the MODESTY BLAISE book you speak of also, Dick does excel at 
> drawing this type of work, and also drew a few original "pieces of Modesty" 
> for THE MENOMONEE FALLS GAZETTE, as well.
--steve
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added cover & 1st page of sarge steel #1 this comic is for sale at 
$10 plus $4 shipping also have many more comics for sale view on 2nd 
page of phot album
ernie


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Just so everyone knows, E-Man turns 30 this year!  I have added a new 
graphic on my E-Man page to commemorate this great occasion.

Rome


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I still remember finding a copy of E-Man #6, and reading and enjoying 
it thoroughly. The artwork was lively and distinctive (my first 
experience with Joe Staton) and the story was clever, intriguing, and 
fun (my first experience with Nick Cuti). The back-up story featuring 
Rog-2000 (my first experience with John Byrne) was the perfect 
addendum to the comic. 

Charlton immediately became my favorite comics 
company (I had once upon a time been a booster of the Action Heroes 
in bygone days.) and soon I getting all of them, even the Hanna 
Barbara material. 

I read and collected every subsequent issue of E-Man and I was even 
able to find a couple of back issues (#5 and #2) at local flea 
markets. Years later I completed the collection with the addition of 
#1, #3, and #4. 

The First Comics revival was offbeat, but it was still worthwhile to 
see Joe Staton on his co-creation and the reprint series of the 
orignal Charlton stories was outstanding. The Alpha and Comico comics 
of later years were good too.

E-Man is a great fresh comics creation, and it's a pity that someone 
can't give the boys a deal to give us more episodes from the Energy 
Man's wonderful life. 

Dean


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Concerning the First Comic's years, were I agree off-beat, I think 
the main reason for that was that Nick Cuti and Joe Staton weren't 
together on the book until the last two issues.  Issue 24, Mauser's 
Story, was my favorite issue from that particular run.  I loved the 
original reprints because the quality of paper on which the story was 
printed was better.  
For what it is worth, I have updated my E-Man site with a review of 
issue 3 and I have added some images to the Misc. Gallery.  I found a 
guy who has created Freedom Force Skins of E-Man and Steve Ditko's 
Killjoy.

Rome










--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Webb 
<sonofvulcan@a...>" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> I still remember finding a copy of E-Man #6, and reading and 
enjoying 
> it thoroughly. The artwork was lively and distinctive (my first 
> experience with Joe Staton) and the story was clever, intriguing, 
and 
> fun (my first experience with Nick Cuti). The back-up story 
featuring 
> Rog-2000 (my first experience with John Byrne) was the perfect 
> addendum to the comic. 
> 
> Charlton immediately became my favorite comics 
> company (I had once upon a time been a booster of the Action Heroes 
> in bygone days.) and soon I getting all of them, even the Hanna 
> Barbara material. 
> 
> I read and collected every subsequent issue of E-Man and I was even 
> able to find a couple of back issues (#5 and #2) at local flea 
> markets. Years later I completed the collection with the addition 
of 
> #1, #3, and #4. 
> 
> The First Comics revival was offbeat, but it was still worthwhile 
to 
> see Joe Staton on his co-creation and the reprint series of the 
> orignal Charlton stories was outstanding. The Alpha and Comico 
comics 
> of later years were good too.
> 
> E-Man is a great fresh comics creation, and it's a pity that 
someone 
> can't give the boys a deal to give us more episodes from the Energy 
> Man's wonderful life. 
> 
> Dean


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I really enjoyed The Evil Eye story from the Thing.  Charlton had 
some of the best precode horro comics and imho Steve Ditko did some 
of his best work during this period.  If possible I'd like to see 
more of the precode stuff. Especially my own favorite, Ditko's 
version of Rumplestiltskin.


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I know I'm late with this, but around here we get our comics somewhat later 
than in the States...

Just received my copy of West of the Dakotas #1. This is from the guys who 
also produce pay-per-view comics on the web. What attracted me to this comic 
was the fact that is was drawn cover to cover by the legendary Charlton 
artist Sam J. Glanzman!

It is a real treat to see this gentleman once again at work, and seeing him 
shine! After having read John Severin work for Homage and Joe Kubert's for 
Tex lately, I can safely say that SJG easily meets their standards of 
quality, and may even surpass them!

Has anyone else seen the book? What did you think?

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No I haven't, but now I'll have to give my local store a closer look. 
I agree that Glanzman is a superb artist. More than a draftsman, he 
is able to compose exciting comics pages. His Herucles comics for 
Charlton were among my very first and still favorite comics.

Dean


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I know that many associate Sam's work mostly with war comics. And yes, he 
did do a lot of good work on Haunted Tank, USS Stevens, Iron Corporal, Willy 
Schultz etc. But he also did a lot of very good western work, and I'm mighty 
glad he has now been given a chance to once again create the work that 
should be created, and should have been created ever since the 
early-to-mid-80s, when non-superheroes went belly-up!
Ramon


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>No I haven't, but now I'll have to give my local store a closer look.
>I agree that Glanzman is a superb artist. More than a draftsman, he
>is able to compose exciting comics pages. His Herucles comics for
>Charlton were among my very first and still favorite comics.
>
>Dean
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All this chat about the Energy Man, has led me to make this month all 
about Charlton's 70's classic. Look for cover images and such, and by 
all means share your favorite memories of E-Man and the lovely Nova.

Dean


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You know, as operator of an E-Man site, this is just up my alley!  Great idea Dean.
Nova was pretty much my favorite super-babe.  In fact I married a red-head.  Perhaps there is a connection.
Rome
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I don't know what that certain chemistry was, but for sure Nova Kane 
was one of the elite hotties of the Bronze Age. I would put her in 
the upper echelon with Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Big Barda. Despite 
Joe Staton's sometimes limited ability to draft the female form from 
time to time (Joe has grown as an artist tremendously over the course 
of his career), Nova had that certain something which set apart and 
made you pay attention.

Dean


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One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A 
classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few pages 
in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on sales. 
This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not 
geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of 
the last to abandon this approach.

E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features. 
Which was your favorite?

Dean


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No doubt about it: Liberty Belle! Ditko's work stands out in this last of 
the Golden Age-ish back-up features!!! (Or am I exaggerating here?) :)
Ramon

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>One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A
>classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few pages
>in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on sales.
>This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not
>geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of
>the last to abandon this approach.
>
>E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features.
>Which was your favorite?
>
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In a message dated 2/3/03 9:34:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> No doubt about it: Liberty Belle! Ditko's work stands out in this last of 
> the Golden Age-ish back-up features!!! (Or am I exaggerating here?) :)
> ---------------------------
I enjoyed LB, but KILLJOY is my favorite, as opposed to "best".
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I enjoyed Ditko's Killjoy feature a lot.  And, in the First Comics E-Man run, 
I enjoyed the Mike Mauser stories.  If and when E-Man resumes publication, I 
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For me it is a toss-up between Steve Ditko's Killjoy and John Byrne's Rog 2000.  I liked Killjoy because he had the physical comedy of Spiderman, but spoke no words.  I liked Rog 2000, because for some weird reason, I could identify with him.
 
Rome
 "Dean Webb <sonofvulcan@aol.com>" <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A 
classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few pages 
in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on sales. 
This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not 
geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of 
the last to abandon this approach.

E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features. 
Which was your favorite?

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I loved the line she used when she was asked who she was, "My civilian I.D.is superfluous"
Rome
 
 Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
No doubt about it: Liberty Belle! Ditko's work stands out in this last of 
the Golden Age-ish back-up features!!! (Or am I exaggerating here?) :)
Ramon

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>One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A
>classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few pages
>in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on sales.
>This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not
>geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of
>the last to abandon this approach.
>
>E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features.
>Which was your favorite?
>
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My personal favorite of all the backups has to be Byrne's wonderfully 
ironic Rog 2000. Rog appeared in issues 6,7,9 & 10 of E-Man. (If I'm 
not mistaken Pacific Comics did a nice magazine-sized reprint of 
those stories in the 80's). 

After Rog, the feature that stands out is The Knight from E-Man #1. I 
like this kind of pseudo-spy stuff anyway, and this feature is one 
that had potential. The Tom Sutton artwork was dandy, and I would 
love to read more about C.H.E.S.S.

Another overlooked feature was Wayne Howard's Travis (the Time 
Traveler)which appeared in E-Man #3. Again this is a one-shot story 
with loads of potential, largely because of Howard's well-crafted and 
endearing art.

Killjoy was in E-Man issues #2 and 4. They are fun, but I have a 
tough time with Ditko's more ironic characters, and Killjoy may be 
the most ironic of the lot.

Liberty Belle from issue #5 is personal fave too. It features some of 
the best of Ditko's more open artwork which he often used in these 
later Charlton stories. For all the notoriety Ditko has for drawing 
ugly women, I think he does a pretty good job here.

Overall the backups for E-Man are darn good characters in themselves. 
It's a pity we couldn't get to see more of many of them.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Webb 
<sonofvulcan@a...>" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A 
> classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few 
pages 
> in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on 
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> This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not 
> geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of 
> the last to abandon this approach.
> 
> E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features. 
> Which was your favorite?
> 
> Dean

That would be Mike Mauser, Dean.


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Exactly! This was one of the few times Ditko created one of his Randian 
characters that was female, and therefore he had to adjust the words. It 
worked for me!
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I did not enjoy Killjoy all that much, because to me he represents an 
extreme in Ditko's work: all philospophy, no humanity. In This character, 
Ditko brings it almost to the edge: we wonder if KJ is a human being at all, 
or if he is just the suit and the phrases.

But I might be reading waaaay too much in this!~
Ramon


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>of
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>I enjoyed LB, but KILLJOY is my favorite, as opposed to "best".
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In a way you could consider Mike Mauser an E-Man backup feature 
despite the fact his adventures appeared in Vengeance Squad, since 
Mauser was an E-Man spinoff. Certainly First Comics did when they 
reprinted the material in the 80's and included the Mauser stories 
with the E-Man material. 

Dean


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...Killjoy , Killjoy , hoy , hoy , hoy !!!!!!!!!!! Oy !!!!!!!!!!! 
Vey , even !!!!!!!!!!!...

:
> One thing that modern comics miss are good back-up features. A 
> classic way to give characters exposure was to give them a few 
pages 
> in the back of a more popular title and measure the effect on 
sales. 
> This is clearly a remnant of the Golden Age packages which were not 
> geared so much for single characters as genres. Charlton was one of 
> the last to abandon this approach.
> 
> E-Man consequently had some pretty entertaining back-up features. 
> Which was your favorite?
> 
> Dean


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So what is everyone's favorite E-Man story?
Rome


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Actually I'll have to give the nod to issue #6, my first one. The 
satire is rich and the story is varied and interesting with just 
enough pathos to get it through. Joe seemed to have an extra special 
good time drawing this one. 

Dean


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One added note on E-Man #6...the monkey wrench scene is perhaps the 
funniest I've run across in a superhero comic ever. Great stuff! For 
those who might not have seen it, I'll say no more so as not to spoil 
it.

Dean


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> So what is everyone's favorite E-Man story?
> Rome


After all this time, I can't remember a lot of them. I remember the 
first issue with E-Man's origin, seems like I remember an X-Men 
parody, and some kind of giant brain thing. 
A trip to the internet store at Mile High Comics shows me the covers 
to E-Man. I think I missed most of 'em; distribution here in Mobile, 
Alabama has always been less than perfect (that is both overly 
charitable and an understatement). I probably still have some of the 
First Comics issues somewhere. Looking at the covers, I don't 
remember a lot of them. I'll  bet Mile High never intended their 
store to be used for research.
Comico did E-Man? I didn't know that! 


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After all this time, I can't remember a lot of them. I remember the 
first issue with E-Man's origin, seems like I remember an X-Men 
parody, and some kind of giant brain thing. 

You are describing the first issue of E-Man during the First Comic's Years.  Looking at the first years, I would have to say that issue 24, "Mauser's Story" is my favorite.  It is mainly about Mike Mauser.  It really gives insight to my favorite comic book detective.

For the Charlton years, it is probably "The Genius Plant", from issue 9.  It was my first E-Man book.  I loved it.  It was Nova's first full issue as a super-powered babe with E-Man's powers.


A trip to the internet store at Mile High Comics shows me the covers 
to E-Man. I think I missed most of 'em; distribution here in Mobile, 
Alabama has always been less than perfect (that is both overly 
charitable and an understatement). I probably still have some of the 
First Comics issues somewhere. Looking at the covers, I don't 
remember a lot of them. Comico did E-Man? I didn't know that! 

If I may be so bold, my site has a complete list of all the E-Man comic books so you can see which ones you have.  I also have a small cover gallery too.  You can find covers from all the publishers of E-Man, with the exception of the Modern Comics reprints.

So you're from Mobile?  That is my birthplace! I haven't been there in too many years.

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> 
> You are describing the first issue of E-Man during the First 
Comic's Years.  Looking at the first years, I would have to say that 
issue 24, "Mauser's Story" is my favorite.  It is mainly about Mike 
Mauser.  It really gives insight to my favorite comic book detective.
> 
> For the Charlton years, it is probably "The Genius Plant", from 
issue 9.  It was my first E-Man book.  I loved it.  It was Nova's 
first full issue as a super-powered babe with E-Man's powers.
> If I may be so bold, my site has a complete list of all the E-Man 
comic books so you can see which ones you have.  I also have a small 
cover gallery too.  You can find covers from all the publishers of E-
Man, with the exception of the Modern Comics reprints.
> 
> So you're from Mobile?  That is my birthplace! I haven't been there 
in too many years.
> 
> Rome
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I'm likely to be kicked out of the comic book all-male club for 
admitting it, but I sometimes enjoy these tear-laden little 
treasures. Charlton in its always ready approach to genre comics, had 
a steady stream of such stuff when I was younger. My sister bought 
more than a few. Later when she lost interest I quietly incorporated 
those few issues into my larger collection, and I still have them. 
Some great artwork and a few pretty decent stories are hidden among 
all those overwrought tales of love and misery. I especially love the 
covers which are very effective devices to get you to actually wonder 
what story could have generated such a scene. 

Last Kiss which currently uses this material to make satire, is a 
good use of some great artwork. But the original stuff wasn't totally 
a loss either though.

Dean

P.S. Have a happy Valentines Day by the way!


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Don't worry, Dean, you are not the only Romance romantic! Over the years I 
have compiled a nice collection of 70s Charlton romance books, and am now 
gearing towards acquiring more and more 50s and 60s stuff.

I too am most impressed by the covers. Whether they be 60s Giordano covers 
or 70s Bolle, Cappello, Demetrio or Sutton, they are all fine with me! 
Sometimes contents are a bit disappointing, but there is usually at least 
one story to make the purchase worth the effort.

And am I the only one to look for stories involving alcohol, drugs and 
worse? Quite often these stories will pop up: girl ignores square guy and 
falls into a romance with bad guy, despite all warnings by 
parents/friends/teachers/etc. Then she finds out alcohol/drugs/whatever is 
not good for her, usually by being rescued by square fella, and then she is 
on the right track again!

Great wholesome fun, not?

Best,
Ramon





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>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:28:20 -0000
>
>I'm likely to be kicked out of the comic book all-male club for
>admitting it, but I sometimes enjoy these tear-laden little
>treasures. Charlton in its always ready approach to genre comics, had
>a steady stream of such stuff when I was younger. My sister bought
>more than a few. Later when she lost interest I quietly incorporated
>those few issues into my larger collection, and I still have them.
>Some great artwork and a few pretty decent stories are hidden among
>all those overwrought tales of love and misery. I especially love the
>covers which are very effective devices to get you to actually wonder
>what story could have generated such a scene.
>
>Last Kiss which currently uses this material to make satire, is a
>good use of some great artwork. But the original stuff wasn't totally
>a loss either though.
>
>Dean
>
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A few years back my local comics shop offered a host of these classic 
Charlton romance books up in some cheap back issue bins. Having two 
daughters I loaded up on them. My girls liked them pretty well, but 
since they've lost interest, I now have a healthy little bundle. Most 
of these were from the early late 60's and early 70's and it is a 
hoot to see all the teen idol crossover attempts. Bobby Sherman is 
all over the place! Sheesh!

There are some well told stories in those romance comics. The thing 
about Charlton is that if you like the stuff there is a lot of it and 
the consistency is remarkable. Fortunately for me I like this stuff a 
lot.

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Even if I had daughters, I wouldn't let them have more than a glance at my 
comics! Too many experiences with giving nephews something to read, and then 
finding out they preferred to color!! :(

Maybe girls are different...

Ramon


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>A few years back my local comics shop offered a host of these classic
>Charlton romance books up in some cheap back issue bins. Having two
>daughters I loaded up on them. My girls liked them pretty well, but
>since they've lost interest, I now have a healthy little bundle. Most
>of these were from the early late 60's and early 70's and it is a
>hoot to see all the teen idol crossover attempts. Bobby Sherman is
>all over the place! Sheesh!
>
>There are some well told stories in those romance comics. The thing
>about Charlton is that if you like the stuff there is a lot of it and
>the consistency is remarkable. Fortunately for me I like this stuff a
>lot.
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Has anyone here seen Pat Boyette's movie, Dungeon of Harrow?

Rome


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No I haven't, but I've always heard it's a pretty good flick. Hasn't 
recently become available on DVD, or am I mistaken?

Dean


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I just bought the DVD yesterday in a boxed set at Sam's Club.  The boxed set is titled Drive-In Monsters put out by Alpha Video.  I have watched it.  That's all I can say.
 
Rome
 "Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com>" <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:No I haven't, but I've always heard it's a pretty good flick. Hasn't 
recently become available on DVD, or am I mistaken?

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I know that Nick didn't read it, or at least most of it. I remember 
well that Joe drew all of it, and that's half the battle at least. I 
well remember that Joe wrote most of it, after Marty Pasko left and 
before Cuti took back over (just before the end). I am of the opinion 
that half an E-Man is better than all of him. 

I've read at other locations hints that an E-Man project by Nick and 
Joe is in the works. Fabulous! But I'm curious what folks here think 
about the First Comics interpretation of E-Man.

It's clear that Pasko didn't get it. He wrote E-Man in the tradition 
of the wilder and broader Howard the Duck episodes. The satire was 
too obvious, too biting at times, and too obscure to be thoroughly 
effective. The secret is that E-Man is NOT a satire.

E-Man is (like all successful superheroes) a straightforward 
adventure comic with a smattering of humor spicing up the stories. E-
Man is funny yes, but he is exciting too. Pasko (who has done some 
great work) just played the jokes too hard, and consequently undercut 
the adventure. 

Joe was able to return the sense of adventure with a taste of the 
absurd, but was not able to bring that wry point of view that Nick so 
clearly brings to the project. At least Joe took him seriously. 

So First's E-Man is a good comic, not a great one like the Charlton 
issues, but a good one nonetheless. 

What do you all think?

Dean


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Was it only available in DVD or did they offer a VHS version as well? 
I'm trapped helplessly in the 80's and 90's now, and I am reluctantly 
fighting the inevitable tide towards DVD's. What else was in the box 
set?

Dean


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I think they only do DVD, but I may be wrong.  You can go to www.oldies.com to see what all they offer.  They sell vinyl records!  Heck, if they do that, than surely they have VHS tapes.  
The other movies in the set are; The Giant Gila Monster, Teenage Zombies, Carnival of Souls ( a very creepy movie), Beast from Haunted Cave, and Eegah.  
Rome
 "Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com>" <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:Was it only available in DVD or did they offer a VHS version as well? 
I'm trapped helplessly in the 80's and 90's now, and I am reluctantly 
fighting the inevitable tide towards DVD's. What else was in the box 
set?

Dean


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I don't I could have said it any better.
 
Rome
 "Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com>" <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:I know that Nick didn't read it, or at least most of it. I remember 
well that Joe drew all of it, and that's half the battle at least. I 
well remember that Joe wrote most of it, after Marty Pasko left and 
before Cuti took back over (just before the end). I am of the opinion 
that half an E-Man is better than all of him. 

I've read at other locations hints that an E-Man project by Nick and 
Joe is in the works. Fabulous! But I'm curious what folks here think 
about the First Comics interpretation of E-Man.

It's clear that Pasko didn't get it. He wrote E-Man in the tradition 
of the wilder and broader Howard the Duck episodes. The satire was 
too obvious, too biting at times, and too obscure to be thoroughly 
effective. The secret is that E-Man is NOT a satire.

E-Man is (like all successful superheroes) a straightforward 
adventure comic with a smattering of humor spicing up the stories. E-
Man is funny yes, but he is exciting too. Pasko (who has done some 
great work) just played the jokes too hard, and consequently undercut 
the adventure. 

Joe was able to return the sense of adventure with a taste of the 
absurd, but was not able to bring that wry point of view that Nick so 
clearly brings to the project. At least Joe took him seriously. 

So First's E-Man is a good comic, not a great one like the Charlton 
issues, but a good one nonetheless. 

What do you all think?

Dean


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Remember Vamfire?  She was a hottie.  I enjoyed seeing her in 
First's "Original E-Man" reprints.  It was great to have her in the 
Comico comics.  If E-Man and Nova make a return, I hope she returns 
as well.

Rome


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I'm not as big a fan of her as you are. She's okay, but I didn't 
think she was a great creation. We only get a glimpse of course in 
the Charlton story, but I will agree that the Comico books fleshed 
her out a bit. I think though that with her and Nova, things got too 
crowded at times. But I would expect that Vamfire would be a part of 
any new E-Man adventures.

Dean 


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Hey guys,

   In honor of E-Man month, or whatever's going on right now, I just 
uploaded a sketch of the character by Don Newton and Bob Layton that 
I recently found for sale on E-Bay (still for sale, actually).  
Unfortunately, I uploaded it to the Sarge Steel folder.  When I tried 
to fix things, I couldn't add photos to the E-man folder.  So if 
anyone has access to that one, switch the picture's location and 
delete the old one.

Thanks,
--Eric


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How did you find the sketch?  I need to bid on that.

Rome





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<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
>    In honor of E-Man month, or whatever's going on right now, I 
just 
> uploaded a sketch of the character by Don Newton and Bob Layton 
that 
> I recently found for sale on E-Bay (still for sale, actually).  
> Unfortunately, I uploaded it to the Sarge Steel folder.  When I 
tried 
> to fix things, I couldn't add photos to the E-man folder.  So if 
> anyone has access to that one, switch the picture's location and 
> delete the old one.
> 
> Thanks,
> --Eric


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She's goin' for $100.  The link is: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2160481220&category=972

--Eric


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Then again, maybe not
 punkybluester <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:She's goin' for $100.  The link is: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
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Got the switch to the E-Man album taken care of. Thanks for the image.
Newton is a great artist, and his take on the Energy Man is very 
different.

Dean


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Hello,

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the CharltonBullseye 
> group.
> 
>   File        : /flygirl/flygirlpage5.JPG 
>   Uploaded by : yelir1182000 <yelir1@l...> 
>   Description : flygirlpage5 
> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 

Flygirl? That's not a Charlton character, yelir. Why are you posting 
it here?

Doc


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Doc Quantum 
<the_time_trust_2000@y...>" <the_time_trust_2000@y...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, 
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the 
CharltonBullseye 
> > group.
> > 
> >   File        : /flygirl/flygirlpage5.JPG 
> >   Uploaded by : yelir1182000 <yelir1@l...> 
> >   Description : flygirlpage5 
> > 
> > You can access this file at the URL
> > 
> 
> Flygirl? That's not a Charlton character, yelir. Why are you 
posting 
> it here?
> 
> Doc
sorry doc i messed up
ernie


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Blue Beetle is a survivor. The character has bounced around among 
more publishers than any I'm familiar with. Fox, Holyoke, Charlton, 
DC, and AC have all published some Beetle adventures. In addition 
there have been three different and distinct Blue Beetles over the 
decades. On top of that are the several different homages to the 
character from all sorts of sources. The Beetle has been a member of 
the L.A.W., the Sentinels of Justice, and the Justice League. He is a 
sturdy and reliable character who seems always to find a way to hang 
around.

In March let's take some time and talk about some our favorite Beetle 
moments. Which Blue Beetle is your favorite? Which homage is the best?

March is Beetle month!

Dean


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In a message dated 2/28/03 8:55:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Blue Beetle is a survivor. The character has bounced around among 
> more publishers than any I'm familiar with. Fox, Holyoke, Charlton, 
> DC, and AC have all published some Beetle adventures. In addition 
> there have been three different and distinct Blue Beetles over the 
> decades. On top of that are the several different homages to the 
> character from all sorts of sources. The Beetle has been a member of 
> the L.A.W., the Sentinels of Justice, and the Justice League. He is a 
> sturdy and reliable character who seems always to find a way to hang 
> around.
> 
> In March let's take some time and talk about some our favorite Beetle 
> moments. Which Blue Beetle is your favorite? Which homage is the best?
> 
> March is Beetle month!
> 
> Dean

Scott: Wow, I'd say the Len Wein written BB was my fave, followed by the 
Jurgens JLA, and later Extreme Justice Beetle. JLI was ok, but got a bit too 
goofy for me down the road - but I can't think of a better buddy for him than 
Booster. I also thought he was pretty well written in Birds of Prey, and 
hoped he and Barbara Gordon would have becomne an item (making TWO Charlton 
characters part of the Bat Family, counting Question and Huntress' affair).


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My favorite Beetle was Dan Garret, the mid-60's Egyptian-powered 
dynamo who triggered the Charlton superhero spurt that decade. Many 
mock this Beetle, and point to the Ditko Blue Beetle who followed 
him. But for me, the bright blue Blue Beetle who seemed to have a new 
power every issue was a classic fun Silver Age hero. I do appreciate 
that Ditko kept the Ted Kord Beetle in the same universe as the 
second Dan Garret. It gave those storie an immediate richness they 
would have othewise lacked. The Joe Gill stories were wild and 
unpredictable, and the Tony Tallarico/Bill Fracchio art was vivid and 
lively.

DC has done great things with the Beetle since. His tenure with the 
Justice League in particular has been good. But for me when I think 
Blue Beetle I always see that bright blue and red character sailing 
through the air.

Dean


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--- I






...Hey , Dean , over at No Superheroes Allowed , I just , as Waltsland , posted 
a new addition to the " Charlton Characters After The Crisis " subject , 
forgetting that I can't post as Waltsland there , due to some " Yahoo! hiccup " 
effect . So , it got lost , as did my first attempt to post this at this club , also as 
Waltsland . Could you (1) rescue them - the No Superheroes one , anyway , 
it's a really good one - I think . - And , my E-ing time is limited . - and (2) post it 
? Puleeasse ? 10Q . 

n CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean <sonofvulcan@a...>" <
sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> My favorite Beetle was Dan Garret, the mid-60's Egyptian-powered 
> dynamo who triggered the Charlton superhero spurt that decade. Many 
> mock this Beetle, and point to the Ditko Blue Beetle who followed 
> him. But for me, the bright blue Blue Beetle who seemed to have a new 
> power every issue was a classic fun Silver Age hero. I do appreciate 
> that Ditko kept the Ted Kord Beetle in the same universe as the 
> second Dan Garret. It gave those storie an immediate richness they 
> would have othewise lacked. The Joe Gill stories were wild and 
> unpredictable, and the Tony Tallarico/Bill Fracchio art was vivid and 
> lively.
> 
> DC has done great things with the Beetle since. His tenure with the 
> Justice League in particular has been good. But for me when I think 
> Blue Beetle I always see that bright blue and red character sailing 
> through the air.
> 
> Dean


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Sorry. I read it, but I don't know how to save anything like that. My 
internet skills are primitive at best. When you get the time, by all 
means take a stab at repeating the info.

Dean


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Hello,

I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the next issue 
of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the reprints, 
but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 

I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as well as 
the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know of any 
other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have insight 
into the creation of the series? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score you a 
free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article appears!

Martin..........................




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Hi,
I can't help with anything about the creation of the series, but I do 
have a suggestion.  John Byrne writes a column for 
www.slushfactory.com .  Maybe you can contact him through that site 
and get some more direct information.  Also  you might want to query 
Nick Cuti.  He's in the Charlton-1 group.  You could post a message 
there or check his email address in the member list.  Can't remember 
it at the moment.  He's always been very friendly and helpful. And if 
anyone finds an email address for Joe Gill let me know.  I'd like to 
drop him a line myself.



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie <mfarlt@h...>" 
<mfarlt@h...> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the next 
issue
> of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the reprints, 
> but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 
> 
> I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as well as 
> the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know of any 
> other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have insight 
> into the creation of the series? 
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score you a 
> free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article 
appears!
> 
> Martin..........................


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As far as I can tell Blue Beetle is the ONLY Golden Age vintage hero 
in the Charlton canon. Captain Atom is a pure product of the Atom Age 
of the 50's while the balance of the Action Heroes are solid Silver 
Age types. E-Man is the only Bronze Age superhero creation.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, randyh_17404 <no_reply@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi,
> I can't help with anything about the creation of the series, but I 
do 
> have a suggestion.  John Byrne writes a column for 
> www.slushfactory.com .  Maybe you can contact him through that site 
> and get some more direct information.  Also  you might want to query 
> Nick Cuti.  He's in the Charlton-1 group.  You could post a message 
> there or check his email address in the member list.  Can't remember 
> it at the moment.  He's always been very friendly and helpful. And 
if 
> anyone finds an email address for Joe Gill let me know.  I'd like to 
> drop him a line myself.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie <mfarlt@h...>" 
> <mfarlt@h...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the next 
> issue
> > of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the reprints, 
> > but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 
> > 
> > I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as well as 
> > the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know of any 
> > other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have insight 
> > into the creation of the series? 
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score you a 
> > free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article 
> appears!
> > 
> > Martin..........................    Sorry all I have are the 
Charlton 1and2 and fantagraphic doomsday Squad 2 6 and7. This could 
have been a great series with lots of  potential since were near War 
right now. Shouldn't say that really no one wants war but that's all I 
wanted to say good luck. What is your wedsite?


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Scott: I was looking through eBay one day, and saw an issue of Captain Atom=
=20
from the 40's (?) and looked nothing like his previous Charlton incarnation=
s=20
- he might not have even been Nathaniel Adam - anyone have more info on thi=
s=20
version?

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Subject: Blue Beetle & the Golden Age?

As far as I can tell Blue Beetle is the ONLY Golden Age vintage hero=20
in the Charlton canon. Captain Atom is a pure product of the Atom Age=20
of the 50's while the balance of the Action Heroes are solid Silver=20
Age types. E-Man is the only Bronze Age superhero creation.

Dean


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There was another Captain Atom, and he had nothing to do with the 
later Charlton atomic hero. I've seen some of the stuff in other 
clubs, and I will attempt to get an image loaded over here. From what 
I gather from those who actually have read it, the comic was pretty 
tepid stuff.

Dean


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Blue Beetle the only GA Charlton hero in the canon? Well, yes, if you mean 
with lasting power. But how about Yellowjacket, Zaza the Mystic and all?!? 
Surely they qualify as Charlton (although published by precursors of 
Charlton) AND Golden Age?
Ramon


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>As far as I can tell Blue Beetle is the ONLY Golden Age vintage hero
>in the Charlton canon. Captain Atom is a pure product of the Atom Age
>of the 50's while the balance of the Action Heroes are solid Silver
>Age types. E-Man is the only Bronze Age superhero creation.
>
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Was it this guy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
viewItem&item=2163546463&category=70

--Eric


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Dean,

For anyone who cares, I've added images, to the file section, of two 
other characters named Captain Atom, who used the name before 
Charlton staked a claim on it.

The first American character to use the name Captain Atom was, 
frankly, a boring character and his comics sold for a nickle in the 
early fifties (they were about half the size of regular comics). 
His "adventures" usually contained science lessons and even as a 
child I couldn't get excited about the character or his stories. In 
the mid-sixties, I picked up a tattered issue featuring the character 
from one place or another and remembered exactly why I hadn't cared 
for him; his stories were so calculatedly wholesome that any rational 
child would want nothing to do with such lame material.

Australia also had a Captain Atom, who lasted far longer than the 
original American character of the same name (1948 until the mid-
fifties). His stories were apparently very much in the Fawcett 
Captain Marvel vein, and the few scans I have seen of a story 
featuring Oz's Captain Atom had him fighting malicious Man-Frogs in 
the Antarctic (the Frog-Men wore what looked like boxer shorts with 
polka dots on them). The Australian Captain Atom had powers very much 
like our Captain Atom; the American Captain Atom had no powers except 
the ability to induce stupification by describing chemistry 
experiments one could conduct with items found in every home.

So it went,
Jon




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> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie <mfarlt@h...>" 
> > <mfarlt@h...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the next 
> > issue
> > > of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the 
reprints, 
> > > but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 
> > > 
> > > I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as well 
as 
> > > the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know of 
any 
> > > other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have 
insight 
> > > into the creation of the series? 
> > > 
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score you 
a 
> > > free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article 
> > appears!
> > > 
> > > Martin..........................    Sorry all I have are the 
> Charlton 1and2 and fantagraphic doomsday Squad 2 6 and7. This could 
> have been a great series with lots of  potential since were near 
War 
> right now. Shouldn't say that really no one wants war but that's 
all I 
> wanted to say good luck. What is your wedsite?

Thanks, the website for my fanzine is:

http://www.geocities.com/madscie/madscientist.html

Martin........................


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I can't help with any behind-the-scenes info on this title, but I can 
say that it was one of my earliest exposures to Charlton Comics and my 
favorite. I first got acquainted with Doomsday+1 when my dad bought 
issue No. 8 from my local grocery store. He rolled it up, put it in 
his back pocket and brought it home to me one day after he'd gotten 
off work. He'd always bring me and my brother each a comic and my mom 
would almost always sign my name to the top logo of my comics and my 
brother's name to the top logo of his (I know, it ruined a lot of 
great comics, but I still have most of them and it's kind of nice to 
look back on the comics of my childhood and know that these are the 
exact same ones I had as a child).
The John Byrne art and Joe Gill story from that issues was the best 
I'd read. I was already familiar with comics by that time. Heck, we 
didn't have much to do at night, what with three channels and maybe 
four on the TV when the weather was just right and the aluminum foil 
on the antenna was working. I read comics to keep occupied. I searched 
and searched my local grocery store for more Doomsday+1, but to no 
avail. It wasn't until about a year or so later when my dad brough 
home a beautiful copy of issue 12.
I didn't find another Doomsday+1 until about 10 years ago when I 
started looking to find the rest of the series. I completed my 
Doomsday+1 collection and have bought numerous copies of each issue 
and have even gone so far as to pay some pretty big prices for some of 
the original art from that series.
Since reading No. 8, I've been hooked on John Byrne art. I also grew 
to love Charlton Comics and now collect original Charlton artwork.
And any fan of the original Charlton series should buy all seven 
issues of the Fantagraphics reprints called Doomsday Squad. The 
coloring job done on these reprints is fantastic and it reprints, in 
color, those final stories from Charlton Bullseye.
I'd love to see a trade paperback of this series published.
Oh yeah, and what was worse than my mother writing my name on the 
comics was the fact that I was so scared of the rock group KISS that I 
scribbled all over the inside front cover of issue 8 where the KISS ad 
was. I was afraid to look at those painted faces!
And one final thing: I talked with former Charlton artist Bob Hall 
recently and he said John Byrne's Doomsday+1 was one of his favorites 
during the 1970s and Byrne's artwork on that series remains his 
favorite of all Byrne's past and present art. The Bob Hall interview 
will be coming up in a future issue if Michael Ambrose's Charlton 
Spotlight.
Mike Browning 

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie" <mfarlt@h...> 
wrote:
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie <mfarlt@h...>" 
> > > <mfarlt@h...> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the 
next 
> > > issue
> > > > of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the 
> reprints, 
> > > > but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 
> > > > 
> > > > I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as 
well 
> as 
> > > > the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know of 
> any 
> > > > other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have 
> insight 
> > > > into the creation of the series? 
> > > > 
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score 
you 
> a 
> > > > free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article 
> > > appears!
> > > > 
> > > > Martin..........................    Sorry all I have are the 
> > Charlton 1and2 and fantagraphic doomsday Squad 2 6 and7. This 
could 
> > have been a great series with lots of  potential since were near 
> War 
> > right now. Shouldn't say that really no one wants war but that's 
> all I 
> > wanted to say good luck. What is your wedsite?
> 
> Thanks, the website for my fanzine is:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/madscie/madscientist.ht


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, greatonefrommatewan 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I didn't find another Doomsday+1 until about 10 years ago when I 
> started looking to find the rest of the series. I completed my 
> Doomsday+1 collection and have bought numerous copies of each issue 
> and have even gone so far as to pay some pretty big prices for some 
of 
> the original art from that series.

Cool story.  Ahh, the good ol' days when the only way to watch an 
older movie was to pray it would turn up on TV, not cable, sometime.

I have also picked up a couple of Byrne DD+1 pages.  They really look 
nicer than they do in the printed versions, even the Doomsday Squad 
books that had superior printing.

Is there any chance you could send me high quality scans or 
photocopies of your DD+1 art, so I can reproduce some nice panels in 
my fanzine?  I'd gladly credit you and send you a free copy of the 
issue for the effort.  Let me know (arltm@umich.edu).

Martin..........................



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...I made some additional comments , but , I made the mistake , 
again , of trying 2 post as Waltsland , and , so , I guess it's 
lost . Foo . Foo . Foo . Foo . Foo foo foo foo foo . Foo . Foo . I 
guess it's lost ????????? Foo , FOO , ALREDDY !!!!!!!!!!!

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> There was another Captain Atom, and he had nothing to do with the 
> later Charlton atomic hero. I've seen some of the stuff in other 
> clubs, and I will attempt to get an image loaded over here. From 
what 
> I gather from those who actually have read it, the comic was 
pretty 
> tepid stuff.
> 
> Dean


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The series is a real highlight of Charlton's 70's output. I've all of 
the original series, but only a couple of the Fantagraphics reprints. 
The beauty of this series is that in its handfull of issues so many 
classic SF concepts are addressed. We get the apocalyptic beginning, 
and on the heels of that a revived prehistoric...two concepts for the 
price of one. As the series unfolded we get other dimensions, 
underwater kingdoms, and synthetic men and out-and-out robots. It 
would take a modern comic series two years to unleash those high-
yeild concepts if then. The density of the ideas and the relative 
freshness and frankness of the relationships of the characters makes 
the series stand up even today.

Dean


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And isn't it amazing that this series was scripted by a writer that 
most fans look down on?  Joe Gill definitely knew how to give more 
bang for the buck and keep you entertained.  I would have loved to 
see what Byrne was going to do with the series.  The issue that he 
wrote and was printed in the Charlton Bullseye fanzine was so 
interesting too.  But everything was still built on what Joe cooked 
up.


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> The series is a real highlight of Charlton's 70's output. I've all 
of 
> the original series, but only a couple of the Fantagraphics 
reprints. 
> The beauty of this series is that in its handfull of issues so many 
> classic SF concepts are addressed. We get the apocalyptic 
beginning, 
> and on the heels of that a revived prehistoric...two concepts for 
the 
> price of one. As the series unfolded we get other dimensions, 
> underwater kingdoms, and synthetic men and out-and-out robots. It 
> would take a modern comic series two years to unleash those high-
> yeild concepts if then. The density of the ideas and the relative 
> freshness and frankness of the relationships of the characters 
makes 
> the series stand up even today.
> 
> Dean


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Doomsday + 1 was a fun series, done by future superstar John Byrne.  I can't 
recall who wrote the thing.  One pet peeve I had with Charlton Comics was the 
horrible printing that would at times spoil much of the enjoyment I got from 
the stories.  Off register color was a problem.   What's amazing is that some 
really great covers, by the likes of Tom Sutton and Mike Zeck,  as well as 
Joe Staton, would get through and look pretty good.  Charlton was a nice 
little outfit, but at times it was a crapshoot as to what the quality of the 
art and stories, as well as the printing quality, would be. I do wish I had 
all of the Charlton comics I ever bought.

     Allen Smith


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, greatonefrommatewan 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I can't help with any behind-the-scenes info on this title, but I 
can 
> say that it was one of my earliest exposures to Charlton Comics and 
my 
> favorite. I first got acquainted with Doomsday+1 when my dad bought 
> issue No. 8 from my local grocery store. He rolled it up, put it in 
> his back pocket and brought it home to me one day after he'd gotten 
> off work. He'd always bring me and my brother each a comic and my 
mom 
> would almost always sign my name to the top logo of my comics and my 
> brother's name to the top logo of his (I know, it ruined a lot of 
> great comics, but I still have most of them and it's kind of nice to 
> look back on the comics of my childhood and know that these are the 
> exact same ones I had as a child).
> The John Byrne art and Joe Gill story from that issues was the best 
> I'd read. I was already familiar with comics by that time. Heck, we 
> didn't have much to do at night, what with three channels and maybe 
> four on the TV when the weather was just right and the aluminum foil 
> on the antenna was working. I read comics to keep occupied. I 
searched 
> and searched my local grocery store for more Doomsday+1, but to no 
> avail. It wasn't until about a year or so later when my dad brough 
> home a beautiful copy of issue 12.
> I didn't find another Doomsday+1 until about 10 years ago when I 
> started looking to find the rest of the series. I completed my 
> Doomsday+1 collection and have bought numerous copies of each issue 
> and have even gone so far as to pay some pretty big prices for some 
of 
> the original art from that series.
> Since reading No. 8, I've been hooked on John Byrne art. I also grew 
> to love Charlton Comics and now collect original Charlton artwork.
> And any fan of the original Charlton series should buy all seven 
> issues of the Fantagraphics reprints called Doomsday Squad. The 
> coloring job done on these reprints is fantastic and it reprints, in 
> color, those final stories from Charlton Bullseye.
> I'd love to see a trade paperback of this series published.
> Oh yeah, and what was worse than my mother writing my name on the 
> comics was the fact that I was so scared of the rock group KISS that 
I 
> scribbled all over the inside front cover of issue 8 where the KISS 
ad 
> was. I was afraid to look at those painted faces!
> And one final thing: I talked with former Charlton artist Bob Hall 
> recently and he said John Byrne's Doomsday+1 was one of his 
favorites 
> during the 1970s and Byrne's artwork on that series remains his 
> favorite of all Byrne's past and present art. The Bob Hall interview 
> will be coming up in a future issue if Michael Ambrose's Charlton 
> Spotlight.
> Mike Browning     Aluminum foil I remember those days lol how far 
we've come.The good thing about Charlton comics was it gave you 
another alternative and like you said Doomsday+1 had loads of 
pontential for a long series. Maybe time travel or other dimensions 
but who knows maybe a revival like the other 80's mags. It would also 
make a great cartoon. take care.
> 






> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie" <mfarlt@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "madscie 
<mfarlt@h...>" 
> > > > <mfarlt@h...> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am working on a review article about Doomsday +1 for the 
> next 
> > > > issue
> > > > > of my fanzine, Mad Scientist.  I have the issues and the 
> > reprints, 
> > > > > but I'm looking for any behind the scenes info I can find. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I already have the Charlton issue of Comic Book Artist, as 
> well 
> > as 
> > > > > the 1980s book, Focus on John Byrne. Does anybody here know 
of 
> > any 
> > > > > other sources (books, magazines, fanzine, etc.) that have 
> > insight 
> > > > > into the creation of the series? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, and might even score 
> you 
> > a 
> > > > > free copy of the issue of Mad Scientist in which the article 
> > > > appears!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Martin..........................    Sorry all I have are the 
> > > Charlton 1and2 and fantagraphic doomsday Squad 2 6 and7. This 
> could 
> > > have been a great series with lots of  potential since were near 
> > War 
> > > right now. Shouldn't say that really no one wants war but that's 
> > all I 
> > > wanted to say good luck. What is your wedsite?
> > 
> > Thanks, the website for my fanzine is:
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/madscie/madscientist.ht


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I agree about Joe Gill. His name was ubiquitous on Charlton books, 
and I eventually just assumed since no one could possibly write so 
many scripts (I assumed), that the name was a "house name" used by 
Charlton to disguise the editors or some such business reason. I was 
seriously impressed when I eventually learned that Joe Gill was 
indeed an actual man, and as it turns out a very talented and 
interesting man at that. Of all the Charlton talent I would love to 
meet, Joe Gill is at the top of the list. I just want to shake his 
hand and say thanks.

Dean


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My memories of Doomsday +1 are a lot more recent. During it's 
original print run, I was not financially able to buy a lot of 
comics, so Doomsday +1 was left on the rack. Around six months ago, I 
found issues 2-6 in the quarter bin at the local dealer. I bought 
them, read them, and enjoyed them. Around three months ago, I found 
the Fantagraphics reprint of the first issue in the same quarter box.

It seems Joe Gill get a lot of criticism because he wrote SO MUCH. 
From what I gather, his was an 8-hour a day, 5-day a week JOB. Even 
figuring that he had a few false starts and outight failures, you can 
write a lot of words in a 40-hour week. Ask Piers Anthony. Pulp 
writers, too, wrote a lot of words in a week; just about everybody 
knows about Walter B. Gibson's output. Even if most of what a writer 
puts out is garbage, he occasionally puts out SOMETHING good. There's 
an issue of Space War with the robot duplicates that I still like. 
And Doomsday +1 is an entertaining comic that I now wish I'd spent 
the extra few pennies on back in it's original run. On the other 
hand, that would mean that I wouldn't have had the pleasure of 
discovering it now...


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...What about the V-Suuad , since we've detoured into " my " era 
of Charlton ? 
  Consider this - They draw from the same well as the Punisher , 
an attempted comic-book equivalent of the " tough " , " macho . 
men's adventures " PB fiction of the time . Think Joe Gill ( 'twas 
his , wasn't it ? ) might've tried to sell it first/or thought it could 
spun off into a PB series ?
  Think there's another universe where the V-Squad were the 
comic book sensation of the early 90s , giving birth to numerous 
clones , while Francis C. is in the Department Of Lame Marvel 
Villians along with Paste-Pot Pete and the Kangaroo ? 


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Loved them! The first issue is okay (it does feature a very weak 
cover alas), but after Pete Morisi took over the art chores the book 
became downright excellent. It's hard not to like PAM's stylized 
comics panels. 

Dean


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Hi all.  First off, thanks for your responses and help with my 
earlier Doomsday +1 questions.  And I'm proud to have actually 
started a thread with my first post here!  Now I have two more 
questions:

1.  Does anyone know who currently holds the copyright to Doomsday 
+1?  I want to cite it properly in my article.

2.  Does anyone actually know the origin of the DD+1 story that was 
printed in Charlton Bullseye.  Unlike the regular series, it was 
written as well as illustrated by John Byrne.  Was it intended for 
publication in the regular series before it was discontinued (like 
other stories in CB)?  If so, does that mean that Byrne was intended 
to take over all the creative reins on the title?  Or was it perhaps 
drawn specifically for Bullseye?  It's possible, as there is a lot of 
zip-a-tone used for grays, which would probably not be the case if it 
were originally intended to be published in color.

Thanks for any info you guys have!

Martin...............................


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Guys,

   I just put up two new PDF files...Sarge Steel backups from 
Judomaster.  My understanding is that this is legal because the (1) 
material is out of print, and (2) we're not making money off of it.  
The files serve as a reference tool only.
   But if I'm in the wrong, let me know and I'll take them down.

--Eric


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...to've been a " flame "-ing display , a few days back ? Did it get 
deleted ? 
  Send it to me , if so !!!!!!!!! I didn't get to read it !!!!!!!!!
  That said , th' ? of " the origin of the name Charlton " seemed to 
be a part of it...I tried to , but couldn't , post then...
  (1) It was " combination of our sons' names " deal on the part of 
the original two partners , who (2) met under...um , 
INTERESTING circumstances ! 
  Check the first of the two CBA C. ishes...


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Huh?


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In the latest issue of Previews, there is a solicitation for a volume 
of Pat Boyette stories, under the listing for Vanguard Publications.  
I believe the title is Night Chillers.  Those of you who enjoyed 
Pat's work should order it.  Also, Greg Theakston and Pure 
Imagination Publishing has just released a volume of b & w reprints 
of late fifties/early sixties Steve Ditko work called The Steve Ditko 
Reader.  Coming up from Pure Imagination: The Jack Kirby Reader, 
listed in the current Previews also.  Also, at the Twomorrows web 
site, there is a promo cover for a large volume dedicated to artist 
Wallace Wood.  A pb version is listed at $44, a hefty price, but 
worth it.  The book is written by Bhob Stewart, with many pages of 
art contributed by Roger Hill and others.  Get ready to order it.  
The only reason I'm mentioning all of these projects is that I don't 
know which of you ever see Previews, so you could be missing out on 
books that you'd like to have.  Whether it's a good or bad thing, I 
get all fired up for the various reprint projects I see coming up 
from various publishers.


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I don't see Previews at all so thanks a lot. I really appreciate the 
info, especially on the Ditko volume. I'll have to check that out for 
sure.

Dean


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I'm working on a new website, the beginnings of which can be found at:
http://www11.brinkster.com/sargesteel/charltonheroes/.  There are a 
number of resources on the Internet, like this here club, that give 
fans of Charlton a chance to discuss the books, but nothing really 
encompassing or open to non-Charlton fans for casual or serious 
research.

I want to start changing that by creating a website detailing the 
characters that were part of the 60s Charlton "action hero" line.  
You can see that now I plan to have pages for Blue Beetle, Captain 
Atom, Judo Master, Nightshade, Peter Cannon Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, 
The Question, Sarge Steel and Son of Vulcan.  Are there other 
characters that should be included?  I discount the Phantom because 
of the many companies that have had their hooks in him.  But should I 
include 70s characters like Yang or E-Man and stretch the guidelines 
of the page?  Should Hercules or those Charlton Premiere guys be in 
there?  Wander?

Secondly, I'm familiar with the characters of Blue Beetle, Captain 
Atom, Sarge Steel and the Question, but some of the others I couldn't 
write a bio on to save my life.  Could any of you guys help provide 
information, or point the way to others who could provide information 
on these characters?

Thanks,
--Eric


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> 
> I want to start changing that by creating a website detailing the 
> characters that were part of the 60s Charlton "action hero" line.  
> You can see that now I plan to have pages for Blue Beetle, Captain 
> Atom, Judo Master, Nightshade, Peter Cannon Thunderbolt, 
Peacemaker, 
> The Question, Sarge Steel and Son of Vulcan.  Are there other 
> characters that should be included?  I discount the Phantom because 
> of the many companies that have had their hooks in him.  But should 
I 
> include 70s characters like Yang or E-Man and stretch the 
guidelines 
> of the page?  Should Hercules or those Charlton Premiere guys be in 
> there?  Wander?
Eventually it would be great for most of the Charlton heroes to get 
representation, even the lesser lights like Wander, Thane of Bagarth, 
and Sinistro, Boy Fiend. Don't forget The Sentinels and the Fightin' 
5 either. But the front page of your site looks tremendous. I'll 
create a link immediately and I look forward to addtions.
> 
> Secondly, I'm familiar with the characters of Blue Beetle, Captain 
> Atom, Sarge Steel and the Question, but some of the others I 
couldn't 
> write a bio on to save my life.  Could any of you guys help provide 
> information, or point the way to others who could provide 
information 
> on these characters?
I'm pretty well versed on Judomaster and I wouldn't mind at all 
writing something for the Scarlet Smasher. Likewise for Thunderbolt 
and Peacemaker, but I'm not totally familiar with what has happened 
to them at DC.

Dean


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> I'm pretty well versed on Judomaster and I wouldn't mind at all 
> writing something for the Scarlet Smasher. Likewise for Thunderbolt 
> and Peacemaker, but I'm not totally familiar with what has happened 
> to them at DC.
> 
> Dean

To be honest, I don't want the site to focus at all on what's 
happened to the characters at DC.  Except for my Question site (that 
will be linked from the page, not part of it), or others like it that 
folks can turn up, the focus should be solely the Charlton years.

--Eric
(Is the Scarlet Smasher another hero, or am I correct in thinking 
that's a "Man of Steel" type nickname for Judomaster?)


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Yes indeed, Judomaster did have two of these colorful nicknames. He 
was alternately called the "Scarlet Smasher" and the "Crimson 
Crusher". I think the former was the more popular. There might be 
others, but I would have to check.

Dean


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--- In Cha






...At the very least , please , do include the 70s heroes , all the 
ones you mentioned , plus all E-man back-ups ( Including my 
boy KILLJOY ! Hoy hoy hoy . Etc. Actually , combining him w/that 
other Ditko E-Man back-up as a " Ditko's E-Backs " , or 
something like that , would be okay , altho I guess that ain't in the 
" no compromise " spirit of Ann R. , am it ??????? ) , Mauser , 
and the Vengance Squad . 
  As outside/liscenced characters , would you , then , also be 
ignoring the other King Features heroes ( Flash Gordon , 
Mandrake , I think Jungle Jim and Tim Tyler , others ? ) , and the 
TV-based Primus , $6M Dood/Bionic Babe , Space: ( And 
wooden acting ! ) 1999 and Emergency! ?

rltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I'm working on a new website, the beginnings of which can be 
found at:
> http://www11.brinkster.com/sargesteel/charltonheroes/.  There 
are a 
> number of resources on the Internet, like this here club, that 
give 
> fans of Charlton a chance to discuss the books, but nothing 
really 
> encompassing or open to non-Charlton fans for casual or 
serious 
> research.
> 
> I want to start changing that by creating a website detailing the 
> characters that were part of the 60s Charlton "action hero" line.  
> You can see that now I plan to have pages for Blue Beetle, 
Captain 
> Atom, Judo Master, Nightshade, Peter Cannon Thunderbolt, 
Peacemaker, 
> The Question, Sarge Steel and Son of Vulcan.  Are there other 
> characters that should be included?  I discount the Phantom 
because 
> of the many companies that have had their hooks in him.  But 
should I 
> include 70s characters like Yang or E-Man and stretch the 
guidelines 
> of the page?  Should Hercules or those Charlton Premiere 
guys be in 
> there?  Wander?
> 
> Secondly, I'm familiar with the characters of Blue Beetle, 
Captain 
> Atom, Sarge Steel and the Question, but some of the others I 
couldn't 
> write a bio on to save my life.  Could any of you guys help 
provide 
> information, or point the way to others who could provide 
information 
> on these characters?
> 
> Thanks,
> --Eric


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Okay.  Maybe I should divide the site into two sections, one for the 
60s and one for the 70s.

So, I'm thinking E-Man, Yang, Killjoy, Liberty Belle, Rog, and 
Mauser.  Anybody else?

Plus, what are your opinions as to what should be on each page?  I 
think there should be some kind of format so that we get uniform 
information on each character.

--Eric


> ...At the very least , please , do include the 70s heroes , all the 
> ones you mentioned , plus all E-man back-ups ( Including my 
> boy KILLJOY ! Hoy hoy hoy . Etc. Actually , combining him w/that 
> other Ditko E-Man back-up as a " Ditko's E-Backs " , or 
> something like that , would be okay , altho I guess that ain't in 
the 
> " no compromise " spirit of Ann R. , am it ??????? ) , Mauser , 
> and the Vengance Squad . 
>   As outside/liscenced characters , would you , then , also be 
> ignoring the other King Features heroes ( Flash Gordon , 
> Mandrake , I think Jungle Jim and Tim Tyler , others ? ) , and the 
> TV-based Primus , $6M Dood/Bionic Babe , Space: ( And 
> wooden acting ! ) 1999 and Emergency! ?



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...I think that the licensed characters/series should be left off.  
Many of them already have fairly comprehensive pages on other sites 
anyway.

--Eric


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Punky,

Judomaster at Charlton was known by not one but actually two 
nicknames. And they were THE SCARLET SMASHER (and also) THE CRIMSON 
CRUSHER. I have all eleven of his adventures, including his first 
appearance in Special War Series #4.
Regards,

Phil Latter


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Okay.  Maybe I should divide the site into two sections, one for 
the 
> 60s and one for the 70s.
> 
> So, I'm thinking E-Man, Yang, Killjoy, Liberty Belle, Rog, and 
> Mauser.  Anybody else?







...Vengance Squad , and the couple? of other E-Man back-us , too !


> 
> Plus, what are your opinions as to what should be on each page?  I 
> think there should be some kind of format so that we get uniform 
> information on each character.
> 
> --Eric
> 
> 
> > ...At the very least , please , do include the 70s heroes , all 
the 
> > ones you mentioned , plus all E-man back-ups ( Including my 
> > boy KILLJOY ! Hoy hoy hoy . Etc. Actually , combining him w/that 
> > other Ditko E-Man back-up as a " Ditko's E-Backs " , or 
> > something like that , would be okay , altho I guess that ain't in 
> the 
> > " no compromise " spirit of Ann R. , am it ??????? ) , Mauser , 
> > and the Vengance Squad . 
> >   As outside/liscenced characters , would you , then , also be 
> > ignoring the other King Features heroes ( Flash Gordon , 
> > Mandrake , I think Jungle Jim and Tim Tyler , others ? ) , and 
the 
> > TV-based Primus , $6M Dood/Bioni       ,  pace: ( And 
> > wooden acting ! ) 1999 and Emergency! ?


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Dean,

Actually, there were just the two knicknames for Judomaster in the 
comics. His ponytail by the way was often referred to as 
his "topknot" in the lettercolumns, with lots of debate in LOCs as 
to whether the artists should keep it or get rid of it. I myself 
felt that it was really cool, and should stay. It was part of what 
made him unique. What was REALLY cool though that he was fighting 
the Japanese, a white American caucation vs. our enemies the 
Japanese (which they WERE in WW 11), and yet, he wore a Japanese 
flag-inspired costume of all things.

It was like, "I'm fighting to overcome you in the colours of your 
OWN FLAG! HA HA!" Anyway, his costume I still think of one of my 
favourites of ALL TIME! I liked the cast, like Bushuri, his gorgeous 
girlfriend, Susikawa, his sidekick, Tiger, etc. My favourite bad 
guys in the series were The Cat with his bokken weapon and original 
weapon, and the Acrobat. They also had neat costumes! Even the 
COLOURING in the series was much better than most comics, very 
vibrant. For those who are forever putting down Charlton's printing 
quality, REALLY OUGHTA look at the Judomaster series! That's 
leave 'em with nothing to say negative!
Regards,
Phil Latter

Phil Latter


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Folks,
If I can cast my vote, I would very much like to see Primus covered 
on that site. I don't have any and would like to see these covered 
plus Vengeance Squad. Don't have any of them either. 

I mean, really, if it is a Charlton site, why not give the site 
options to expand or people the opportunity to add different types 
of series, maybe in different categories?

I mean, it is your site and you can decide, but...???
Regards,
Phil


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Phil,

The constrictions are due to space, time, and my own anal need to be 
completionist.  My passions really only lie with the Charlton heroes 
(although Vengeance Squad is amongst those), and not really their 
horror books, sci-fi, war or Westerns (though I really do like all of 
the art in the latter two genres).  I want to spend the whole 
allotment of bandwidth that Brinkster provides on these genres.  I 
have set up a specific project that I have the time and resources to 
see through to completion, and when I do these things, I like to make 
sure they're complete.

If you or anyone else is interested in making additional Charlton 
pages, however, I would gladly link to those.

I'm just a college student who got into Charlton through his dad's 
comics and have grown to appreciate the DIY ethic of the Derby 
company.  But if we're going to do this, it has to at least start 
small.  We don't want to spread oursselves too thin and lose focus.  
Right?  Right.

So...who's Primus?  And does anyone have any good scans of the 
Vengeance Squad that's not the badly drawn, static Toth ripoff art 
that's present throughout the first issue?

--Eric


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I agree! Judomaster is likely Charlton's most underrated series. The 
quality is not only high, but thanks to Frank McLaughlin's dedication 
to the character is very consistent. My first four Charlton's were an 
old Dan Garrett-Blue Beetle (the second encounter with the Praying 
Mantis Man), the Thunderbolt by Pat Boyette in which T-Bolt fights 
Dragon, and the two-part Tiger introduction storyline in Judomaster. 
Of those comics, the Judomasters were clearly more modern in feel and 
execution. 

Dean


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Primus was an early TV show adaptation by Charlton. The premise was  
undersea adventures in the Sea Hunt tradition with a 70's spin. The 
book is pretty good (I have several, but not all) with early work by 
Joe Staton on an adventure series. This is before his E-Man work, and 
features his less angular style.

Dean


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Eric wrote:
>And does anyone have any good scans of the
>Vengeance Squad that's not the badly drawn, static Toth ripoff art
>that's present throughout the first issue?
>
>--Eric

I have to take issue with that, Eric: Frank Bolle may or may not be of the 
same quality as Toth, that is a personal matter of taste. However, the fact 
that he was (and is!) a good draftsman stands as far as I am concerned. 
Bolle did dozens of stories for Dell/Gold Key and Charlton, and although you 
could say the stories are re-hashed, the art certainly wasn't. What I feel 
is off-putting is that his art (more than others') seemed so quickly dated. 
All his male characters in the seventies wore sideburns and bell-bottoms for 
instance. Other artists have the same problem (Nicholas/Alascia hippies are 
infamous!)...
I too liked Pete Morisi's art on Squad better than Bolle's, and feel that 
Bolle's was better suited for romance and mystery/suspense than for straight 
adventure...
Ramon

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My own opinion/interest, nothing more: I feel there has been waaay to much 
emphasis on the Charlton action hero line already. Charlton is much much 
more, and there is a tendency among collectors to only focus on the 
(superhero) continuing characters. Why not showcase Shotgun Harker & 
Chicken? or Dr.Graves? Or David & Eileen? Or Korg? Or Jerry Drummer? I have 
made a start at doing that on my Charlton site, and have more in the works. 
For anyone interested in a title-oriented, not character-driven viewing of 
Charlton's output, visit http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics
Ramon


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>
>Okay.  Maybe I should divide the site into two sections, one for the
>60s and one for the 70s.
>
>So, I'm thinking E-Man, Yang, Killjoy, Liberty Belle, Rog, and
>Mauser.  Anybody else?
>
>Plus, what are your opinions as to what should be on each page?  I
>think there should be some kind of format so that we get uniform
>information on each character.
>
>--Eric
>
>
> > ...At the very least , please , do include the 70s heroes , all the
> > ones you mentioned , plus all E-man back-ups ( Including my
> > boy KILLJOY ! Hoy hoy hoy . Etc. Actually , combining him w/that
> > other Ditko E-Man back-up as a " Ditko's E-Backs " , or
> > something like that , would be okay , altho I guess that ain't in
>the
> > " no compromise " spirit of Ann R. , am it ??????? ) , Mauser ,
> > and the Vengance Squad .
> >   As outside/liscenced characters , would you , then , also be
> > ignoring the other King Features heroes ( Flash Gordon ,
> > Mandrake , I think Jungle Jim and Tim Tyler , others ? ) , and the
> > TV-based Primus , $6M Dood/Bionic Babe , Space: ( And
> > wooden acting ! ) 1999 and Emergency! ?


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...It's ironic that you say that, because one of the biggest reasons 
I chose to solely focus on the heroes (besides the fact that they're 
my main focus of interest and the one I have the most resources for) 
was that they were the only genre that you didn't really seem to be 
going into over at your own website.  I didn't want to step on your 
toes, so I decided to narrow my focus somewhat.  And despite the 
emphasis that we as Charlton fans may put on them, the fact remains 
that there is no quality Internet resource for those interested in 
the Charlton super-heroes.  At the very least, it might help solve 
all of those, "I heard that Alan Moore based Watchmen on...." 
questions.

But it also appears that I've stepped on your toes somewhat in my 
critique of Frank Bolle.  I know nothing of the artist outside of 
this single issue of Vengeance Squad, so I can't speak to his finer 
points outside of this issue.  However, the fact that you mention 
that he was better on romance and mystery books supports an idea that 
I've been mulling over concerning his work on this action book.  I 
think that my reaction to Bolle came from the similarity to Toth's 
work (especially in his facial structures), and yet the lack 
of "cinematography" for lack of a better word and dynamicism in his 
work.  As a film minor, I tend to think of comic books as little 
brothers to movies, in that they both combine writing and visual 
images to produce a quality artform.  I think Bolle's work on this 
action book suffers from mundane composition in many cases, and 
stiff, almost photographic figures at times.  It seems he draws 
somewhere in the middle of the punching Spidermans found in "How To 
Draw Comics the Marvel Way."

Having said that though, I can also appreciate that Bolle's style is 
suited, even almost perfect for other genres like romance.  
Surprisingly, it goes the same thing with cinematographers -- some 
who worked on John Ford's grandiose westerns couldn't properly shoot 
a noir movie to save their lives.

Thanks for responding.  Oh, and can you give me information on 
Charlton Spotlight?  How to order, how much, is it still in 
production, etc.?

--Eric


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...If you just want to peruse Charlton Comic covers and you don't 
mind a trademark stamp running across the bottom of them, check out: 
http://www.milehighcomics.com/newinstock/pastweeks/CHR.html

--Eric


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Thanks for the link. I've never seen Judomaster scans on the net 
before. It's good to see at least a couple of the covers show up.

Dean


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I just found this link regarding a 1961 case between Charlton and the 
U.S. Postal Service for their right to mail dirty mags.  It's not the 
comics, but the same Derby, Conn. address that housed the rest of the 
publishing arm of Charlton....

http://www.usps.com/judicial/1961deci/1-287.htm


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Okay, guys 'n' gals, I have a question for you:

How many Captain Atom short stories (that is, not book length tales) 
are there? I have come upon some reprints (mid '60s and late '70s) of 
some of these shorts and was wondering how many such adventures there 
were.


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I couldn't guess right off the top of my head, at least not 
accurately. There were three reprint issues in the 60's before new 
stories began. If we assume that each of those issues had three to 
four Cap stories, then we get 9 to 12 short tales. I have those 
reprints and I have some of the originals, so when I get a chance I 
can get a count. One place to check would be the Charlton Portfolio. 
If I recollect correctly, that fanzine has a checklist of many of the 
Action Heroes.

Good question!

Dean


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Bill-

I have every single appearance of Captain Atom in the Silver 
age/1960's and 1970's in my collection. I posted the answers to your 
questions in a very detailed manner to 

internationalcomicclub@yahoogroups.com

I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that you are a member there.

Membership is free. If you go and sign up, you will be able to see 
my detailed response to your questions-several paragraphs long. I 
believe you will find it interesting.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Canada   PS: go to google (search engine) first, then plug in that 
web site address into google. There is no www. or anything else in 
front of internationalcomic etc.




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The correct URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/internationalcomicsclub

and now I know why Phil put up that information.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, chromium_foil 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> 
> Bill-
> 
> I have every single appearance of Captain Atom in the Silver 
> age/1960's and 1970's in my collection. I posted the answers to 
your 
> questions in a very detailed manner to 
> 
> internationalcomicclub@yahoogroups.com
> 
> I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that you are a member there.
> 
> Membership is free. If you go and sign up, you will be able to see 
> my detailed response to your questions-several paragraphs long. I 
> believe you will find it interesting.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Canada   PS: go to google (search engine) first, then plug in that 
> web site address into google. There is no www. or anything else in 
> front of internationalcomic etc.


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In a message dated 4/1/03 12:05:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Secondly, I'm familiar with the characters of Blue Beetle, Captain 
> Atom, Sarge Steel and the Question, but some of the others I couldn't 
> write a bio on to save my life.  Could any of you guys help provide 
> information, or point the way to others who could provide information 
> on these characters?

Scott: I'll be more than happy to help you out with Peacemaker, and I can 
help with the DC versions of the characters. email me off list at 
atomjla@aol.com (since it's been pointed out that this isn't the place for 
it)


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A lister was asking about the missing Blue Beetle 43 ... I have 
searched high and low for this issue to get a sticker made for the 
Gerber Guide from which its missing. It is widely believed that this 
issue by Fox Features does not exist. Many collectors far and wide 
have searched for this issue but to no avail (this is all from memory 
since I don't have my Gerber Guides nor my Gerber White Space stickers 
in front of me). I have never seen one for sale, nor has anyone I've 
dealt with in my search for the White Space books. Of course, there 
are several of the Gerber White Space books that many thought did not 
exist but actually do. I have found at least three books that were 
thought to be non-existent. So, keep on looking. Fox books were very 
strange in their numbering, so it may exist.
Mi


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2168861398&category=3985

The item description has an interesting comment, "The rights to the 
property remain in the hands of creators Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton, 
who will soon see their classic hero make the media leap to a major 
motion picture."

But this also comes from a guy who claims that Mister E is a Charlton 
property that was sold to DC and spells Blue Beetle as Blue Betle.

Is this old news, new news, or no news?  Inquiring E-Man fans want to 
know.

--Eric


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Eric,
Some comments...

>...It's ironic that you say that, because one of the biggest reasons
>I chose to solely focus on the heroes (besides the fact that they're
>my main focus of interest and the one I have the most resources for)
>was that they were the only genre that you didn't really seem to be
>going into over at your own website.  I didn't want to step on your
>toes, so I decided to narrow my focus somewhat.  And despite the
>emphasis that we as Charlton fans may put on them, the fact remains
>that there is no quality Internet resource for those interested in
>the Charlton super-heroes.  At the very least, it might help solve
>all of those, "I heard that Alan Moore based Watchmen on...."
>questions.

True. I never focused on the Action Heroes all that much. But there were 
some good reasons for that. One is personal preference. Although I love the 
Action Heroes, I also feel many were very lame. That's the case with most 
superheroes, though, not just Charlton's. A second reason is that the AH 
were only a VERY small part of Charlton's massive output. They completely 
fall away compared to other genres, such as mystery, western, war, heck even 
hot rod titles were more abundant! Finally, the superheroes were small in 
number but also limited in their lifespan. Sure, Blue Beetle held out for 
quite some time, but if you look at the time during which there were Beetle 
stories IN PRINT, that was only for a very short period.
But I'm only glad that someone is interested and dedicated in/to the Action 
Hero line. All the more glory to you! But for me, they are not a priority.

>But it also appears that I've stepped on your toes somewhat in my
>critique of Frank Bolle.  I know nothing of the artist outside of
>this single issue of Vengeance Squad, so I can't speak to his finer
>points outside of this issue.  However, the fact that you mention
>that he was better on romance and mystery books supports an idea that
>I've been mulling over concerning his work on this action book.  I
>think that my reaction to Bolle came from the similarity to Toth's
>work (especially in his facial structures), and yet the lack
>of "cinematography" for lack of a better word and dynamicism in his
>work.  As a film minor, I tend to think of comic books as little
>brothers to movies, in that they both combine writing and visual
>images to produce a quality artform.  I think Bolle's work on this
>action book suffers from mundane composition in many cases, and
>stiff, almost photographic figures at times.  It seems he draws
>somewhere in the middle of the punching Spidermans found in "How To
>Draw Comics the Marvel Way."

Bolle is a bit stiff, in that illustrative kind of way. But he compensates 
it with some very classy, smooth brushwork. Yes, Vengeance Squad #1 could 
have been better (Charlton pulled him off it -- probably with good reason!), 
but his romance work in particular was very good, even at the shabby rates 
Charlton was paying him. And did you ever see the stuff he did for Gold 
Key's mystery titles? Great work!!

>Thanks for responding.  Oh, and can you give me information on
>Charlton Spotlight?  How to order, how much, is it still in
>production, etc.?
>
>--Eric

Charlton Spotlight is very much alive, with a new (third) issue coming out 
this summer. Keep up to date by logging on to 
http://www.charltonspotlight.com or email editor Mike Ambrose at 
mikeargo@flash.net

Best,
Ramon

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If you look through AC Comics Best of the West, you will often see a Frank 
Bolle western story in each issue.  He is a good artist, but people who 
comment that his work sometimes lacks dynamism are correct.  As far as the 
actual drawing is concerned, though, he is a very good, slick almost, artist.

     Allen Smith


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Bolle was the wrong artist for the Vengeance Squad and I'm very glad 
he was replaced. The series as drawn by PAM is one of the most 
memorable of the Bronze Age. But there is no doubt that Frank Bolle 
is a more than comptetent professional. The western work he did is 
very effective and I think somewhat more static by crisp style was 
perfect for the extremely sober Gold Key line. 
I believe Bolle is currently working on the Rex Morgan M.D. comic 
strip, and his economic and clear drawing is ideal for that tiny 
medium.

Dean


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Correction: Frank Bolle is currently working on Apartment 3-G, not on 
Rex Morgan M.D. I loaded a sample strip of Bolle's work into the 
files section. Take a look, it won't be there long.

Dean


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Hi I'm a comics fan

I'm 29 years old 

Living in Mexico

hope meet many people here and exchange ideas and stuff here

nice to meet you all



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I uploaded a shot of the cover of The Charlton Comic Guide for the 
Artist/Writer/Letterer/Etc.  Did anyone buy this back in the day?  
What's it like on the inside?

--Eric


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Hola, G.G. and welcome to the board!

--Eric


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I wish I owned a copy. Thanks for the image. I remember wanting one 
of these, but in those days (and still today) I don't do 
subscriptions.

Dean


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Add my greetings. Glad to have you with us here.

Dean


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...I've been working a bit more today on the format of each character 
page, and I've decided that each should include the following:

-Character Bio
-Cover Gallery
-Issue Reviews
-Brief synopsis of appearances outside of Charlton

I've worked up some sample pages on Sarge Steel, but I've been 
limited by the resources I have here in my girlfriend's room.  In the 
final version, the pictures will look nicer (including the covers and 
the main picture) and they'll all be there.  Also, I copied the bio 
page from a DC Who's Who, but that will be re-written later with 
images linked from names and events.

Taking this format into consideration, I've got 15 other characters, 
of which I have the know-how to do maybe only three or four of.  Blue 
Beetle and the Question are in the bag, and I could possibly do E-Man 
and Mike Mauser (although...I figured we have another expert on-
hand...).  Does anyone else want to chip in and lay claim to a 
character?  Or to help contribute more cover scans?

--Eric


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When I get home tonight, I'll do a search in my Charlton index and send you 
guys a list of all of his work for that company. See if I can convince some 
of you guys that Frank W. Bolle is one of the best artists to ever work for 
the Derby, Connecticut publisher!
Best,
Ramon "Yet another crusade" Schenk



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>Correction: Frank Bolle is currently working on Apartment 3-G, not on
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Thanks for the reply.  I posted the question, but deleted the message 
afterwards, because I thought it may not belong in this group.

Since #41 is dated Mar-Apr and #44 is Sep-Oct, for a while I thought 
#42 is May-Jun and #43 is Jul-Aug. But sellers on eBay and the Grand 
Comics DB list the Jul-Aug issue as #42.  If this is correct, then 
it's likely there's no #43.  Does this mean that there is no issue 
dated May-June, 1946?

-Tho


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For the pleasure of all you Frank Bolle enthusiasts (and the education of 
all unbelievers), here is a short list of his CHARLTON work. It is far from 
complete, but may give you some insight in the man's great work.
Best,
Ramon

Title	Issue	Cover date	Story title
FOR LOVERS ONLY	86	9/76	Undateable
GHOSTLY TALES	121	6/76	Eternal Honeymoon
HAUNTED	28	7/76	Source, The
HAUNTED	29	9/76	Authors Of ?
HAUNTED	61	4/82	Authors Of ?
HAUNTED	56	7/81	Source, The
HAUNTED LOVE	2	6/73	I'll Never Let You Go!
JUST MARRIED	112	8/76	cover
LOVE DIARY	93	5/75	cover
MY ONLY LOVE	4	1/76	cover
MY ONLY LOVE	4	1/76	cover
MY ONLY LOVE	7	7/76	cover
MY ONLY LOVE	8	9/76	cover
MY ONLY LOVE	8	9/76	Two Kisses A Month
PHANTOM	62	11/74	cover
PHANTOM	63	1/75	cover
PHANTOM	64	3/75	cover
SECRET ROMANCE VOL.2	34	9/75	cover
SECRET ROMANCE VOL.2	33	7/75	cover
SECRET ROMANCE VOL.2	48	2/80	cover
SECRET ROMANCE VOL.2	41	11/76	cover
SECRETS OF YOUNG BRIDES	8	9/76	cover
SECRETS OF YOUNG BRIDES	9	11/76	cover
SWEETHEARTS VOL.2	136	10/73	Roll Calls For Kisses!, The
SWEETHEARTS VOL.2	136	10/73	cover
VENGEANCE SQUAD	1	7/75	cover
VENGEANCE SQUAD	1	7/75	Tycoon For The Taking

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...And probably for a limited time. Are we allowed to d/l and repost 
these in our club's file folder?

http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/collections/dido/classes/h150/atom.html

--Eric


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I found a copy of Fightin' Air Force #53 the other day. I don't 
normally pick up the war comics unless they are extra extra cheap, 
but this one had a fabulous cover featuring a poster shot of American 
Eagle who was a pilot. I haven't yet read the comic, but the artwork 
looks fabulous. This is apparently the last issue of the title which 
became War and Attack with #54. 

Dean


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American Eagle was one of the few Charlton continuing war (or as Charlton 
called the genre... "armed forces") characters. It was a real shame it did 
not last. To my personal taste, he was just a bit too "superheroic". Too 
much Blackhawks...
Ramon

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>I found a copy of Fightin' Air Force #53 the other day. I don't
>normally pick up the war comics unless they are extra extra cheap,
>but this one had a fabulous cover featuring a poster shot of American
>Eagle who was a pilot. I haven't yet read the comic, but the artwork
>looks fabulous. This is apparently the last issue of the title which
>became War and Attack with #54.
>
>Dean


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That's what I liked about the series. Based on the one episode I read 
(called "Eagle's Shame")the characterizations of the four pilots who 
formed the team seemed well established in the brief story, and Fort 
the American Eagle was almost complex. I was reminded of the Fightin' 
5 for sure, and the Blackhawks are a natural comparison.

Dean


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Dean,

Speaking of Fightin' Five, I have in my own collection Charlton's 
Fightin' Five's # 38, # 40, #41 (2 copies), and #48, this last one 
being a 1982 Charlton reprint. At least, I am guessing it is a 
reprint.

The Peacmaker, of course, first appeared in Fightin' Five #40 and 
#41, as a backup feature.

In the silver age peacmaker #1 through #5, The Fightin' Five were 
relegated to a backup feature. Thus, the roles of importance were 
now reversed. Fightin' Five were now second on the billing.

Interestingly (at least to me), in The Peacemaker #1, "Irv the 
nerve", one of the regular Fightin' Five members, was killed, having 
been electrocuted. Particularly grisly! Whereas the leader of the 
group, Hank Hennessey, lost an arm and an eye! As shown later in 
Peacemaker #2 ! This, in an era where most heroes never died! Thus, 
it wasn't just Menthor who died in Thunder Agents! True, the 
Fightin' Five weren't superheroes. But they were an elite, uniquely 
garbed/ uniformed group, as were the Blackhawks!

Fightin' Five appeared as backup story in all five Peacemaker, of 
course. I wish I had more Fightin' Fives!

Does anyone know who owns the rights to the Fightin' Five? As I read 
from various sources that lots of the Charlton characters were sold 
piecemeal after the break up of the company. I further know that DC 
did not purchase them. 

Phil Latter




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I just visited the Charlton Bullseye Yahoo group's photo section for 
the first time in several months. Wow. Lots of stuff there now that 
wasn't there before. 

I saw the b and w cover of the "unpublished" (note the parenthesis) 
of the Charlton Blue Beetle #6, where BB is fighting a "sort of" 
invisible man.

This story, completed (pencils, inks, etc) WAS actually published 
later, in THE CHARLTON PORTFOILIO, (which is actually CPL #10). I 
happen to have this in my collection.,It's pretty rare. I purchased 
it from a dealer last year.

I have a new scanner, so I will have to figure out how to use it, 
assuming you folks want to be able to view and read this entire 20 
odd page adventure that probably few, if any of you, have ever seen. 
That is probably a silly question, though, right?

Phil Latter


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this American Eagle is not to be confused with the American Indian hero, 
drawn by John Severin, appearing in  some issues of Prize Comics Western, 
IIRC, or with the aviator hero drawn by Herb 
Trimpe and appearing I can't remember where.

     Allen Smith


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Phil, count me as one of the few, the proud, the
Charlton fan that would love to see that story.

Thanks
Troy

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> 
> I just visited the Charlton Bullseye Yahoo group's
> photo section for 
> the first time in several months. Wow. Lots of stuff
> there now that 
> wasn't there before. 
> 
> I saw the b and w cover of the "unpublished" (note
> the parenthesis) 
> of the Charlton Blue Beetle #6, where BB is fighting
> a "sort of" 
> invisible man.
> 
> This story, completed (pencils, inks, etc) WAS
> actually published 
> later, in THE CHARLTON PORTFOILIO, (which is
> actually CPL #10). I 
> happen to have this in my collection.,It's pretty
> rare. I purchased 
> it from a dealer last year.
> 
> I have a new scanner, so I will have to figure out
> how to use it, 
> assuming you folks want to be able to view and read
> this entire 20 
> odd page adventure that probably few, if any of you,
> have ever seen. 
> That is probably a silly question, though, right?
> 
> Phil Latter
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Troy,

No problem. I didn't take much convincing. 

A few weeks ago,I bought both a new ($2400.00) computer,and then a 
Hewlitt-Packard colour printer/scanner/copier. Only problem is, I 
haven't had a chance to read up on the literature of how to work the 
scanner part,yet. 

However, while time is not a thing I have a lot of, I have some 
vacation time coming to me from May 11 through 17th. 

At that time, I am determined to learn how to work this scanner and 
post that CHARLTON PORTFOLIO (CPL # 10) otherwise never-published 
Blue Beetle #6 by Ditko from the 1960's. All issues of CPL are rare.

THE CHARLTON PORTFOLIO is chalk full of lots of other original art, 
new for this edition, of all the Charlton action heroes by various 
artists, as well as a wrap-around cover (front and back) of all of 
these characters. 

If memory serves, I believe Dean has this as well (?)

 The only other one I have is #12 with a Paul Gulacy cover. 
Apparently only a couple hundred copies of each were ever produced.

One dealer told me he believed 15 issues in total were produced. CPL 
= Contemporary Pictorial Literature, was published by both fans and 
Charlton artists and writers. #12 contains an original John Byrne 
comic book story, never printed in anywhere else. Imagine that: a 
John Byrne comic book story wherein only a couple hundred copies 
were ever made!!!

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada



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...Features a story derivative of the silver age Captain Atom - Air 
Force pilot receives atomic powers after materializing in a 
scientific chamber thingie.  Then Lois Lane falls in love with him.  
Leastwise, I haven't read it yet, but I thought I'd give the heads 
up.

--Eric


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I am lucky enough to have a Charlton Portfolio. I found it way back 
in a used-book store and I don't think I paid all that much for it. I 
don't think I had heard of it when I stumbled across it, but the 
thing is full of great info and features some fabulous artwork by the 
Charlton creators and others. I think in the Sarge Steel album there 
is a B&W illustration by Giordano that is from the Portfolio. I don't 
have any other CPL magazines though. A couple of covers are displayed 
(or at least they were) over at Bob Layton's site (see the Links 
section).

I would love to see the B&W story scanned here. My only question is 
one of trademark infringement. As with the Cap Atom story already 
scanned in, I think DC owns the rights to all the old material as 
well as the character designs. Most of the Charlton material 
available on the net is from the genre material which seems to belong 
to no one and everyone. As long as we keep these up for a brief time 
and don't make any effort to profit we should be protected, but I'm 
no expert by any means. Given the story's historical significance and 
rare nature, the scans might serve true journalistic motives.

Dean


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Thanks. I get all the Astro City stuff as a matter of course, but I 
did forget to mention the simiarity of "Atomicus" to Charlton's own 
Captain Atom. The parallels are clear. There are some pretty 
entertaining comments inside the story about the hero's origin being 
suspect and having been "retold" for less than noble reasons. DC's 
corruption of the classic Captain's stories and the idea that they 
are merely over-the-top stories (which we all know they really are, 
but then so is the DC stuff) has always stung a bit.

Dean


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Dean,

   I'm home for Easter break, and I was looking through my comics to 
see if there was anything I could use for the webpage.  I stumbled 
on a Captain Atom Secret Origins and was extremely saddened to find 
that all of the Charlton stories were written away as lies by a 
corrupt government.  Even the screwdriver.

--Eric


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According to copyright law:

"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair 
use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in 
copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that 
section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, 
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, 
or research, is not an infringement of copyright."

I would argue that this would fall under the criticism/comment or 
research section.  The works involved are unavailable to the average 
person, and are currently out of print.

The law is dependent on the following conditions, which I will 
discuss one-by-one:

1. Purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is 
of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

-Housing the files on Yahoo may be a violation of this, in as there 
are paid advertisements on the page.  Perhaps if we moved these 
comic files to a separate, non-advertisement plagued website, we 
could dodge this.

2. The nature of the copyrighted work.

-Charlton comics are previously published, but out-of-print 
periodicals.  These are the fairest of the fair use copyrights to 
use.

3. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to 
the copyrighted work as a whole.

-The whole in this case includes both the single issue story and the 
series.  Like copying part of a book or an album leads others to 
read or listen to the rest, so does, one might argue, publishing 
part of a comic book series.  It's what Marvel bases their website 
on.

4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of 
the copyrighted work.

-This is the biggest factor, I think.  The rights to most of these 
books are owned by companies like DC and ACG, and they are currently 
not being published.  Until the Charlton books are reprinted by 
these companies, then the general public is deprived of these 
important pieces of comic book history.  However, when these 
companies _do_ re-publish these stories, the files should be removed 
from the Internet.

After examining these factors, and the copyright law, I'd say we 
were fairly safe in qualifying these comic stories as fair use.  
However, do not attempt to upload either Mysterious Suspense or 
Captain Atom #85 -- these have both been published by DC, or any of 
the comics that ACG will be publishing in months to come.

I am also not sure how this relates to Peter A. Morisi's Thunderbolt 
either.  I'd say that they're fair game (or, I guess, fair use) too, 
until PAM decides to reprint them.

But that's a layman's reaction.  Are there any lawyers in the house?

--Eric


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CPL is still owned by Bob Layton, who is currently publishing Future 
Comics' Freemind and Metallix. Future Comics, if you look in the 
indicia, is owned by CPL Gang Productions.
Check these books out. They're as good as anything on the stands right 
now. They're more like early VALIANT and have both great stories and 
great art.
On the subject of the Charlton Portfolio, I found my copy about eight 
years ago in Louisville's Great Escape comics store. It's a pretty 
good issue. A couple of pages of the Ditko-Byrne art from that CPL 
period were up for sale a couple of years ago on 
www.monsterscollectibles.com. Not bad stuff, although I was never too 
fond of Byrne inking Ditko. The cover by Don Newton showed promise, 
but was still amateurish. And from reading the credits, it seems that 
Don Rosa of Disney Ducks fame, was part of or at least a contributor 
to CPL. I think CPL was made up of Roger Stern, Duffy Vohland, Bob 
Layton, John Byrne, Roger Slifer and a few others that I can't recall.
If you want to really see the CPL Gang, check out the Rog 2000 edition 
from Pacific that was published in the early 1980s, reprinting the old 
Charlon backups. Good stuff and a good look at some of comics' greats.
Mike B.

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> 
> Troy,
> 
> No problem. I didn't take much convincing. 
> 
> A few weeks ago,I bought both a new ($2400.00) computer,and then a 
> Hewlitt-Packard colour printer/scanner/copier. Only problem is, I 
> haven't had a chance to read up on the literature of how to work the 
> scanner part,yet. 
> 
> However, while time is not a thing I have a lot of, I have some 
> vacation time coming to me from May 11 through 17th. 
> 
> At that time, I am determined to learn how to work this scanner and 
> post that CHARLTON PORTFOLIO (CPL # 10) otherwise never-published 
> Blue Beetle #6 by Ditko from the 1960's. All issues of CPL are rare.
> 
> THE CHARLTON PORTFOLIO is chalk full of lots of other original art, 
> new for this edition, of all the Charlton action heroes by various 
> artists, as well as a wrap-around cover (front and back) of all of 
> these characters. 
> 
> If memory serves, I believe Dean has this as well (?)
> 
>  The only other one I have is #12 with a Paul Gulacy cover. 
> Apparently only a couple hundred copies of each were ever produced.
> 
> One dealer told me he believed 15 issues in total were produced. CPL 
> = Contemporary Pictorial Literature, was published by both fans and 
> Charlton artists and writers. #12 contains an original John Byrne 
> comic book story, never printed in anywhere else. Imagine that: a 
> John Byrne comic book story wherein only a couple hundred copies 
> were ever made!!!
> 
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova


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I just read that there is another Phantom movie in the works. Great! 
I adored the first one several years back, and I would love to see 
another take on The Ghost Who Walks. With a somewhat bigger budget 
and the advances in effects, this one could be a humdinger!

Dean


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Dean, who is going to play the Phantom in the second movie? To tell 
you the truth, I am very surprised if they are making a second one, 
for the reason that the first one (which I greatly enjoyed) bombed at 
the box office.

What was the source of the info you read?

Thanks.

Phil Latter


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My favorite thing about the Phantom movie, and also the first 
Superman movie and partially the Spiderman movie, is that the 
characters didn't wear padding.  Billy Zane wore like a purple cotton 
pullover, but he was believable as a superhero.

--Eric


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...I'm on the Deep Woods ( www.deepwoods.org ) Phantom board , this 
has been , much , discussed there...

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> Dean, who is going to play the Phantom in the second movie? To tell 
> you the truth, I am very surprised if they are making a second one, 
> for the reason that the first one (which I greatly enjoyed) bombed 
at 
> the box office.
> 
> What was the source of the info you read?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Phil Latter


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Hey guys,

   As work progresses on my Charlton heroes website, I've run into 
some obstacles that I could really use some help with.
   The first obstacle involves cover scans.  I've almost got complete 
coverage (pun intended) of all of the characters that are currently 
on the site, but haven't been able to track down the following:

Doomsday +1 #7, 10-12
House of Yang #7-8
Judomaster #89, 92-93
Peacemaker #5
Son of Vulcan #50
Space Adventures w/Captain Atom #35, 42
Space Adventures Vol. 2 w/Captain Atom #11-13
Thunderbolt #57, 59-60
Yang #14-16

   I'm uploading the pictures on the site at a size of 270x400 pixels 
in most cases (as these are all standard size, and not Bullseye size, 
that should fit all).  If anyone can help me out, e-mail me at 
ericnewsom@lycos.com
   Part two involves checking over my comicography for the characters 
that are already on the site.  If anyone in the know could look over 
the character appearances, and make corrections / additions 
(especially in the case of Rog 2000 and Michael Mauser - I haven't 
listed any of Mauser's E-Man appearances because I don't know how to 
classify them), and either post them here or e-mail to the address 
above, it would be much appreciated.
   Thanks for your help as this project continues, and expect 
expansions after these first sets of characters are done.  I hope to 
expand to include the Vengeance Squad, the Sentinels, Prankster, 
Wander, the Charlton Premiere characters, Zaza, Mr. Muscles and more 
by the end of this summer.

Thanks,
--Eric


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I guess a link to that comicography page would help:
http://www11.brinkster.com/sargesteel/charltonheroes/comicography.html

And I don't know why it won't show my e-mail address -- it's 
ericnewsom at lycos.com

Thanks again,
--Eric


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I'm posting this to both Charlton-1 and Charlton Bullseye, so I 
apologize to those of us on both lists.

A friend asked me to see if anyone here knows who did the art on 
Geronimo Jones #4. It ALMOST looks like Tony Tallarico...


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Don't forget everyone: tomorrow, May 3, 2003, is the annual 
INTERNATIONAL FREE COMIC BOOK DAY across North America. There will be 
about 20 free, new comic books, all different given out free at 
participating comics specialty stores! So don't miss out! 

As to whether this on continents OTHER than North America...I have no 
idea!

Cheers!

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


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It was apparently quite successful in my local area. The store owner 
said the kids were waiting when he opened up. I got several freebies 
myself and it's quite a good haul. The real treasure is a Donald Duck 
adventure from Gemstone in anticipation of their upcoming Disney 
books.

This promotion seems to be working. Just what comics need!

Dean


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 Well the comic store I went to let me have all the issues and I also 
bought Scary Monsters Magazine.


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This is my very first Charlton ghost comic. The stories are very well 
done, but the cover story by Ditko is a classic example of his more 
muscular and open style at Charlton at the time. The shading he used 
on this story in particular was oddly effective. 

Ditko gave Doc Graves a slightly slicker look than did many of the 
other artists. Dikto's Graves seemed more physical somehow and less 
bookish.

Dean


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I just watched an episode of Scooby Doo on the Cartoon Network that 
for years I thought I'd made up.  In it, the gang helps out comic 
book artist Jerry Sloan as he is harrassed by the real-life 
incarnation of his creation The Blue Scarab.  I think that the Sloan 
character looks a lot like Ditko, although it could really be any 
shaggy-haired, bespectacled comicbook artist in the 1970s (and let's 
face it, that was everyone).

A picture of the Blue Scarab can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/christine_scooby/scrappydoo.html

Anyone know anything about this?

--Eric


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I saw this one. It was on this weekend, but I never got around to 
actually watching it. I saw enough to see the Scarab and get the 
likely Blue Beetle connection, but I never made a connection with 
Ditko and Sloan (if there was one).

Dean


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--- In Charl





...There famously has been no known , public , pictures of Ditko 
since the mid-60s , at least , and , he was not in his 20s in the 
70s...And , would an Ayn R. , Objectivism-loving , straight 
arrow/decidedly NON!-hippie have had shaggy - or , Shaggy !!!!! - 
hair , even in the mid-to-late 70s ???????


tonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I just watched an episode of Scooby Doo on the Cartoon Network that 
> for years I thought I'd made up.  In it, the gang helps out comic 
> book artist Jerry Sloan as he is harrassed by the real-life 
> incarnation of his creation The Blue Scarab.  I think that the 
Sloan 
> character looks a lot like Ditko, although it could really be any 
> shaggy-haired, bespectacled comicbook artist in the 1970s (and 
let's 
> face it, that was everyone).
> 
> A picture of the Blue Scarab can be found here:
> http://www.geocities.com/christine_scooby/scrappydoo.html
> 
> Anyone know anything about this?
> 
> --Eric


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I suppose you're right, I thought that it probably wasn't Ditko when 
he gave up so easily when the masked hero tried to put his comic out 
of business.  Ditko would have gotten preachy, then let Fred drown in 
a sewer.

--Eric


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Hello,

I just wanted to let people know that issue 7 of my fanzine, MAD 
SCIENTIST, is ready to ship.  This 'zine covers monsters, sci-fi, 
etc. in a number of media, including film and comics.  Issue 7 
features a new article about Charlton's DOOMSDAY +1 series.  It 
includes previously unreported information provided by artist John 
Byrne, reproductions of panels from the original art, a scan of Tom 
Sutton's cover for the unpublished 13th issue, a Byrne costume 
design, and more.  

And there are also the usual film articles (The Lost World and The 
Mole People), plus the latest installment of my autobiographical 
comic strip, "Tales from the Lab."  It should be an enjoyable strip 
for those movie fans who grew up in the days before cable and home 
video!

Content and ordering information can be found at the MAD SCIENTIST 
web site:

http://www.geocities.com/madscie/madscientist.html

Thanks,

Martin Arlt



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Folks,

I have some questions to hopefully anyone who can answer them, 
regarding The Midnight Conference, which was a long-running Batman 
fanzine, Canadian, in the 1980's and early 1990's. Therefore, does 
anyone reading this have any issues of that in his/her collection, 
or conversely, know anyone who does?

In which case, I would be very interested in hearing from you. 
Please help?

Thanks!

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


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Hi Folks!

Check out the latest DC issue of the current Green Arrow #26 issue 
this month. The monster "villain" which, at the end of this 
continued story, is tearing apart people with his bare hands, 
dressed only in aloin cloth and growling, looks (to me at least), a 
heckuva LOT like Atlas' Comics The Brute, except for his skin 
colouring. Coincidence, or...?

YOU decide! Pretty cool, either way!

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


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Dean,

I think this is one of the most insightful things I have read you say in the 
past 3 or so years that I have been a member. And I mean this as a 
compliment.

There are times that I feel that, at times, that you in your posts, support 
any artist and any writer, at any time. This is not necessarily a bad thing. 
Sometimes I feel, though, that your posts lack constructive criticism, or 
criticism at all. That you spend most of your time defending.

However, constructive and insightful criticism can be a good thing. 
Criticism is good for the industry, I feel. It tends to be more insightful 
and helpful than blind praise.

Such is the case here. Steve Ditko is a man that almost noone knows anything 
about. He prefers, as we all know, to let his work speak for him, and has 
done so since the beginning of his career, a man who shuns photographs and 
interviews. His odd Ayn Rand philosophy that he preaches continually in much 
of his work has a black and white philosophical perspective about that 
ignores any shades of grey meaning. There is no room for it in scripts which 
he, himself, writes.

I admit him muchly as do we all. But he is an eternal enigma. He likely will 
go to his grave not being interviewed and I think that this is a real shame. 
He is someone that noone knows. Except his black and white philosophy. A 
previous master of illustrative style, as with the 1960's Amazing Spiderman, 
Doctor Strange in Strange Tales and numerous other works including lots of 
stuff at Charlton Comics. But who is he, really? Did he serve in the war? 
Did he marry? Does he have children? Do we, after being comics fans for 
several decades, know ANYTHING about him whatsoever? Even a little bit? No.

Last week, a friend of mine who is NOT a comics fan nor collector, happened 
to mention to me, as he thought I would be interested, that he had heard on 
TV that, in the coming days, the VERY FIRST 1960's SPIDERMAN artist was 
going to be INTERVIEWED ON TELEVISION. If my friend got it right, there is 
only one man who suits that criteria. And that man is Steve Ditko.

Therefore, I said to my friend, that can't be right. Steve Ditko would never 
consent to be interviewed. My friend said he HAD heard it right. He said, he 
didn't catch the artist's name (DAMN!!!!)---but he was certain he had heard 
it right. If it IS Ditko (doubtful, but if it is...) , maybe that means he 
has mellowed with age, and does now want to do an interview. Of course, this 
is doubtless wishful thinking on my part. Or is it? On the internet, I have 
seen one and only one photograph of Steve Ditko, ever, from when he was a 
young man. I don't recall where I saw it, unfortunately. Anyone know? It 
also goes without saying that Ditko likewise does not allow himself to be 
photographed, either.

Has anyone else heard about this TV interview? I keep saying to myself that 
it must be with someone else, not Ditko....

Your thoughts, folks?

Anyway, back to you, Dean. As I said, I enjoyed your last post as I have 
enjoyed all the others.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


>From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
>Reply-To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Return of Vic Sage
>Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:54:10 -0000
>
>I think I largely agree with your assessment of Vic Sage, and of
>Ditko heroes in general. They do lack the capacity to grow because
>they are not fully realized characters, but merely mouthpieces for
>Ditko's philosophy. In a world of comics geared for children, it's so
>novel to run across any work that speaks in an adult tone that folks
>overreact to the messenger and ignore the message. The message is
>limited, and the strident nature of the preaching (Ditko's mewling
>side characters make all too easy targets for the inevitable
>diatribe) strikes against the effectiveness of the whole package.
>
>I love Ditko's art. I like Ditlko's stories. But as with with all
>great talents there are lapses, and this is my complaint about Ditko.
>He has sadly fought the noble fight during his life, but in the
>fighting I fear his potential to speak to a broader audience has been
>mitigated by his inflexibility and the desire for purity in his
>message. He would certainly say that was the point, but I think he
>does himself (and alas us all) a disservice.
>
>But then we might well not be talking about him today if he weren't
>such a cantankerous old sort.  Godspeed Steve Ditko!
>
>Dean
>

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Dean and all other members:

Who is Owen McCarron? If you don't know, be not ashamed. Owen McCarron is a 
comic book artist who, in the 1960's, did several War as well as LOVE genre 
comic books for Charlton Comics.

Later, he did a lot of work for Marvel, such as: Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze 
1st series) #28, 15 issues of Marvel's FUN AND GAMES, numerous books and 
book illustrations for Marvel, including many covers on Marvel's Fireside 
book series, as well as some stuff for DC.

Additionally, Owen McCarron did a lot of Marvel and DC calendars, worked in 
graphics and commercial design, and his own company, COMIC BOOK WORLD, in 
the 1970's, produced numerous full colour cover to cover "giveaway" Canadian 
comic books. He also had a syndicated Canadian newspaper comic strip that 
appeared only in Nova Scotia and Ottawa Canada newspapers in the 1960's and 
1970's. He also drew a handful or more Spidey Super Stories.

He was born and raised in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. Last month, having 
written him a polite letter stating I would like to meet and interview him, 
he phoned me back and invited me over one Saturday afternoon. He showed me 
decades of original art he had done, including original comic book art, 
newspaper strip art, etc. I marvelled at all the original art he had framed 
on his studio wall from many of the "Greats" of comic art, specially done 
for him and signed to him: these included: Charlie Brown's Charles Schultz, 
newspaper comic strip "For Better or For Worse" 's Lynn Johnston, BC's 
Johnny Hart, John Romita Sr, and NUMEROUS OTHERS! There also were hand-drawn 
one of a kind Christmas cards to Mr. McCarron from these and many other, and 
even letters from former President of the U.S. Ronald Reagan, and First Lady 
Nancy Reagan. This was a very pleasant afternoon interviewing this gent!

There is a Steve Ditko tie-in here: Own McCarron has the original, 
large-size art of the original cover of the 1960's Amazing Spiderman #10 by 
Steve Ditko. BUT: it is NOT the cover that was published; it is an alternate 
version that Ditko drew first, decided against, and then drew another 
version that was much different. The thing is, McCarron's Ditko cove is MUCH 
better than the one Marvel published!

He explained that in the 1960's, he wrote Marvel asking for some original 
art. Flo Steinburg mailed him this and he has had it ever since! Explained 
Owen: "I have been offered tens of thousands of dollars for it, but I don't 
need the money." It even has the Amazing Spiderman cover logo, etc, on it! 
My guess is that this gorgeous cover has never been published in any 
magazine!

I am planning to touch base with Owen McCarron in a few weeks, once I have 
transcribed the interview from tape to Word Perfect, to go over again and 
take some photos! I would like to get this interview published. Owen is now 
78 years old, and is a very nice gentleman. I may submit it to Comic Book 
Marketplace. Does anyone else have any ideas as to where I should submit 
this interview for publication?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

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Dean,

I think this is one of the most insightful things I have read you say in the 
past 3 or so years that I have been a member. And I mean this as a 
compliment.

There are times that I feel that, at times, that you in your posts, support 
any artist and any writer, at any time. This is not necessarily a bad thing. 
Sometimes I feel, though, that your posts lack constructive criticism, or 
criticism at all. That you spend most of your time defending.

However, constructive and insightful criticism can be a good thing. 
Criticism is good for the industry, I feel. It tends to be more insightful 
and helpful than blind praise.

Such is the case here. Steve Ditko is a man that almost noone knows anything 
about. He prefers, as we all know, to let his work speak for him, and he has 
done so since the beginning of his career, a man who shuns photographs and 
interviews. His odd Ayn Rand philosophy that he preaches continually in much 
of his work has a black and white philosophical perspective about it that 
ignores (and indeed, leaves no room for...) any shades of grey meaning. 
There is no room for it in scripts which he, himself, writes.

I admire him muchly as do we all. But he is an eternal enigma. He likely 
will go to his grave not being interviewed and I think that this is a real 
shame. He is someone that noone knows. Except his black and white 
philosophy. A previous master of illustrative style, as with the 1960's 
Amazing Spiderman, Doctor Strange in Strange Tales and numerous other works 
including lots of stuff at Charlton Comics. But who is he, really? Did he 
serve in the war? Did he marry? Does he have children? Do we, after being 
comics fans for several decades, know ANYTHING about him whatsoever? Even a 
little bit? No.

Last week, a friend of mine who is NOT a comics fan nor collector, happened 
to mention to me, as he thought I would be interested, that he had heard on 
TV that, in the coming days, the VERY FIRST 1960's SPIDERMAN artist was 
going to be INTERVIEWED ON TELEVISION. If my friend got it right, there is 
only one man who suits that criteria. And that man is Steve Ditko.

Therefore, I said to my friend, that can't be right. Steve Ditko would never 
consent to be interviewed. My friend said he HAD heard it right. He said, he 
didn't catch the artist's name (DAMN!!!!)---but he was certain he had heard 
it right. If it IS Ditko (doubtful, but if it is...) , maybe that means he 
has mellowed with age, and does now want to do an interview. Of course, this 
is doubtless wishful thinking on my part. Or is it? On the internet, I have 
seen one and only one photograph of Steve Ditko, ever, from when he was a 
young man. I don't recall where I saw it, unfortunately. Anyone know? It 
also goes without saying that Ditko likewise does not allow himself to be 
photographed, either.

Has anyone else heard about this TV interview? I keep saying to myself that 
it must be with someone else, not Ditko....

Your thoughts, folks?

Anyway, back to you, Dean. As I said, I enjoyed your last post as I have 
enjoyed all the others.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


>From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
>Reply-To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Return of Vic Sage
>Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:54:10 -0000
>
>I think I largely agree with your assessment of Vic Sage, and of
>Ditko heroes in general. They do lack the capacity to grow because
>they are not fully realized characters, but merely mouthpieces for
>Ditko's philosophy. In a world of comics geared for children, it's so
>novel to run across any work that speaks in an adult tone that folks
>overreact to the messenger and ignore the message. The message is
>limited, and the strident nature of the preaching (Ditko's mewling
>side characters make all too easy targets for the inevitable
>diatribe) strikes against the effectiveness of the whole package.
>
>I love Ditko's art. I like Ditlko's stories. But as with with all
>great talents there are lapses, and this is my complaint about Ditko.
>He has sadly fought the noble fight during his life, but in the
>fighting I fear his potential to speak to a broader audience has been
>mitigated by his inflexibility and the desire for purity in his
>message. He would certainly say that was the point, but I think he
>does himself (and alas us all) a disservice.
>
>But then we might well not be talking about him today if he weren't
>such a cantankerous old sort.  Godspeed Steve Ditko!
>
>Dean
>

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Folks,

Here is a followup of that original Steve Ditko #10 (unpublished)
cover that Owen McCarron holds the original art for. I went looking
on the web to see if I could find it anywhere. While McCarron DOES
have the original unpublished art for this cover, it IS on the web!

Go to:

http://www.universomarvel.com/curiosidades/as10alt_p.html

And you will see it there billed as "The Original". Click on the
thumbnail of this cover for Amazing Spiderman #10 and give it time
to load. Then it will come up large, and in full colour! This
website is all in a foreign language but at least you will be able
to see it here. I am guessing that Marvel must have retained a
photostat of this cover before mailing it to Owen McCarron in the
1960's.

Phil Latter
Canada

>
>
>
>>From: "phil latter" <chromiumfoil@hotmail.com>
>>To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com, 
>>chromiumfoil@hotmail.com
>>Subject: Speaking of interviewees: Owen McCarron,and unseen DITKO ART!!!
>>Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 20:32:54 -0300
>>
>>Dean and all other members:
>>
>>Who is Owen McCarron? If you don't know, be not ashamed. Owen McCarron is 
>>a comic book artist who, in the 1960's, did several War as well as LOVE 
>>genre comic books for Charlton Comics.
>>
>>Later, he did a lot of work for Marvel, such as: Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze 
>>1st series) #28, 15 issues of Marvel's FUN AND GAMES, numerous books and 
>>book illustrations for Marvel, including many covers on Marvel's Fireside 
>>book series, as well as some stuff for DC.
>>
>>Additionally, Owen McCarron did a lot of Marvel and DC calendars, worked 
>>in graphics and commercial design, and his own company, COMIC BOOK WORLD, 
>>in the 1970's, produced numerous full colour cover to cover "giveaway" 
>>Canadian comic books. He also had a syndicated Canadian newspaper comic 
>>strip that appeared only in Nova Scotia and Ottawa Canada newspapers in 
>>the 1960's and 1970's. He also drew a handful or more Spidey Super 
>>Stories.
>>
>>He was born and raised in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. Last month, having 
>>written him a polite letter stating I would like to meet and interview 
>>him, he phoned me back and invited me over one Saturday afternoon. He 
>>showed me decades of original art he had done, including original comic 
>>book art, newspaper strip art, etc. I marvelled at all the original art he 
>>had framed on his studio wall from many of the "Greats" of comic art, 
>>specially done for him and signed to him: these included: Charlie Brown's 
>>Charles Schultz, newspaper comic strip "For Better or For Worse" 's Lynn 
>>Johnston, BC's Johnny Hart, John Romita Sr, and NUMEROUS OTHERS! There 
>>also were hand-drawn one of a kind Christmas cards to Mr. McCarron from 
>>these and many other, and even letters from former President of the U.S. 
>>Ronald Reagan, and First Lady Nancy Reagan. This was a very pleasant 
>>afternoon interviewing this gent!
>>
>>There is a Steve Ditko tie-in here: Own McCarron has the original, 
>>large-size art of the original cover of the 1960's Amazing Spiderman #10 
>>by Steve Ditko. BUT: it is NOT the cover that was published; it is an 
>>alternate version that Ditko drew first, decided against, and then drew 
>>another version that was much different. The thing is, McCarron's Ditko 
>>cove is MUCH better than the one Marvel published!
>>
>>He explained that in the 1960's, he wrote Marvel asking for some original 
>>art. Flo Steinburg mailed him this and he has had it ever since! Explained 
>>Owen: "I have been offered tens of thousands of dollars for it, but I 
>>don't need the money." It even has the Amazing Spiderman cover logo, etc, 
>>on it! My guess is that this gorgeous cover has never been published in 
>>any magazine!
>>
>>I am planning to touch base with Owen McCarron in a few weeks, once I have 
>>transcribed the interview from tape to Word Perfect, to go over again and 
>>take some photos! I would like to get this interview published. Owen is 
>>now 78 years old, and is a very nice gentleman. I may submit it to Comic 
>>Book Marketplace. Does anyone else have any ideas as to where I should 
>>submit this interview for publication?
>>
>>Best Wishes,
>>
>>Phil Latter
>>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>>Canada
>>
>

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Found it!

To look the photo of a very young Steve Ditko, (a comics artist who has not 
allowed himself to be either interviewed nor photographed in 35 years), go 
to:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7941/int.htm

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This version of the cover had been published a couple of times that I 
know of.  One is on the back of the Official Amazing Spider-Man Index 
#2 (Issue #1 printed the unused Amazing Fantasy 15 cover).  The 
Marvel Tales issue that reprinted Amazing Spider-Man #10 also printed 
this cover.  I can post a better scan of it if anyone is interested.

-Tho

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phil latter" 
<chromiumfoil@h...> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Here is a followup of that original Steve Ditko #10 (unpublished)
> cover that Owen McCarron holds the original art for. I went looking
> on the web to see if I could find it anywhere. While McCarron DOES
> have the original unpublished art for this cover, it IS on the web!
> 
> Go to:
> 
> http://www.universomarvel.com/curiosidades/as10alt_p.html
> 
> And you will see it there billed as "The Original". Click on the
> thumbnail of this cover for Amazing Spiderman #10 and give it time
> to load. Then it will come up large, and in full colour! This
> website is all in a foreign language but at least you will be able
> to see it here. I am guessing that Marvel must have retained a
> photostat of this cover before mailing it to Owen McCarron in the
> 1960's.
> 
> Phil Latter
> Canada



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Tho-

I checked by pulling my copy of The Official Index To The Amazing Spiderman 
#2 and then looking at its back cover. And you are RIGHT: this is the cover 
that Owen McCarron owns the original, large-size art to-the alternate, 
unpublished cover of #10 from the 1960's. You've got a great memory!

Thanks!

Phil Latter
Canada


>From: "Tho" <ethoha@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Fwd: Owen McCarron's unpublished Ditko Amaz 
>Spider #10 cover on the net!
>Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:05:09 -0000
>
>This version of the cover had been published a couple of times that I
>know of.  One is on the back of the Official Amazing Spider-Man Index
>#2 (Issue #1 printed the unused Amazing Fantasy 15 cover).  The
>Marvel Tales issue that reprinted Amazing Spider-Man #10 also printed
>this cover.  I can post a better scan of it if anyone is interested.
>
>-Tho
>
>--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phil latter"
><chromiumfoil@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Here is a followup of that original Steve Ditko #10 (unpublished)
> > cover that Owen McCarron holds the original art for. I went looking
> > on the web to see if I could find it anywhere. While McCarron DOES
> > have the original unpublished art for this cover, it IS on the web!
> >
> > Go to:
> >
> > http://www.universomarvel.com/curiosidades/as10alt_p.html
> >
> > And you will see it there billed as "The Original". Click on the
> > thumbnail of this cover for Amazing Spiderman #10 and give it time
> > to load. Then it will come up large, and in full colour! This
> > website is all in a foreign language but at least you will be able
> > to see it here. I am guessing that Marvel must have retained a
> > photostat of this cover before mailing it to Owen McCarron in the
> > 1960's.
> >
> > Phil Latter
> > Canada
>
>

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Thanks, but I just remember it because I bought that issue mainly for 
that unused cover.  I agree that it's much better than the published 
cover, and I've never read an explanation of why it was rejected. 

-Tho

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phil latter" 
<chromiumfoil@h...> wrote:
> Tho-
> 
> I checked by pulling my copy of The Official Index To The Amazing 
Spiderman 
> #2 and then looking at its back cover. And you are RIGHT: this is 
the cover 
> that Owen McCarron owns the original, large-size art to-the 
alternate, 
> unpublished cover of #10 from the 1960's. You've got a great memory!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Phil Latter
> Canada



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Dean,

Please don't misunderstand my previous post: I can be called an admirer of 
your previous (including this) post of your thoughts and ideas about comic 
artists, both pro and con. What I meant was: that constructive (as opposed 
to destuctive) criticism is GOOD! Whereas blind praise, from ANYBODY, 
doesn't really teach us anything. Put another way: if I or you were 
professional comic book artists, and all we ever received was adoring 
praise, what would we learn about improving our craft? Answer: nothing. 
That's all I meant.

Best Wishes!

PS: I just received a very nice email from "Rascally Roy" Thomas of Marvel, 
DC, and Alter Ego, interesting in using the unpublished "alternate", 
original circa 1964 cover for Amazing Spiderman #10, as an Alter Ego cover! 
Boy, that was neat! I printed the email off to save!

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


>From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
>Reply-To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Steve Ditko and Criticism In General!
>Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:16:12 -0000
>
>Glad I could come through. I'll confess that my fanboy ardor for
>Charlton comics (a company that has fascinated me for years but about
>which I knew virtually nothing until the last few) makes me seem an
>apologist for some of the "lesser" talents who ply the comics trade.
>But I love the work ethic that informs the efforts of notable hacks
>like Tony Tallarico. Actually I still have to say I adore the work of
>Tallarico (who can explain these fascinations) and I rarely pass up a
>chance to collect him if I can find it reasonably priced (one of the
>virtues of chasing "hacks"). But I digress.
>
>I've been patrolling the internet for about six years now, and
>actively partcipating for about four. In that brief time, I've seen a
>lot of what passes for criticism run roughshod over people's feelings
>and become defacto personal attacks. One of the reasons I have found
>solace in Yahoo groups dedicated to vintage comics is that the
>members tend by and large to be polite and informed. When I do
>venture out into other less precise forums, I find a high degree of
>vitriol and and inordinate number of trolls waiting to snap at any
>percieved slight. They don't engage in commentary, they commit insult.
>
>Steve Ditko is a diety in some quarters. His mystique is by now
>sometimes more intriguing than his work for some. I have always found
>that mystique overblown. Jack Kirby suffers the same overdone
>adulation. I'm guilty of it in regard to John Buscema who could do no
>wrong in my eyes  (and yes I have seen Weirdworld). These guys are
>from a generation that is quickly blinking out, and sadly taking with
>it a work ethic and innate understanding of a world where social
>justice was a dream and not an assumed given. I love the work of
>these seasoned veterans. They found a way to say things (things
>political in Ditko's case and social in Kirby's) but they were always
>at their very best when the story was the thing. Ditko alas in his
>weakest moments forgets to tell a story involving characters we care
>about. All that being said, I still would buy virtually any new Ditko
>material on the spot.
>
>So, it hasn't been my intent for these last few years to sound too
>sunny. But dadburnit, that's the way I feel very often. Thanks for
>the feedback Phil.
>
>Dean
>

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No offense taken. I confess to being a fanboy when it comes to 
Charlton, and I agree that blind praise accomplishes little. On the 
other hand, I tend to be careful getting into to dustups on the net 
as they always seem to go awry; I've tried being clever in the past 
only to have it be misunderstood. For the record I have made similar 
comments about Ditko before, and I think the guy does hurt himself by 
his rigid insistence on certain ideas, but it's his life. 

Often though my support for certain talents is something of a 
reaction against what I percieve as a prejudice against certain types 
of art and storytelling. The cult of Ditko tends to dismiss the other 
Charlton talents (with the exception of Pat Boyette for some reason) 
and while I bow before none in my respect for Sturdy Steve, his work 
for Charlton is often unremarkable. There is a general idea prevalent 
in fandom that Blue Beetle was a waste before Ditko got hold of the 
book. I think that's balderdash. The work by Gill, Tallarico, and 
Fracchio on that book holds up well for me. It's totally different 
from what Ditko did a bit later, but given the wacky world of mid-
60's comic logic the stories strike me as energetic and vivid with 
more plot than in a half dozen modern comics.

Dean


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Michael,

The interview will take a few months to transcribe, with other concerns 
right now, but comics-wise, it is a top priority!

I asked Owen McCarron as to which Charlton titles and issue #s he did, but 
after all these decades, I am afraid his memory on this one aspect was not 
clear. However, I intend an additional meet with him to ask several more 
questions and take some accompanying photographs of both himself as well as 
his collection of art and other questions. Believe me, that is question #1 
on the top of the list that I intend to pin down. I shall be asking him over 
the phone to attempt to pin that down. As, I myself am VERY curious, as I 
knew others MUST BE! As for that Ditko unpublished Spiderman cover he has, I 
intend also to get a good photograph of Owen WITH IT! That also intrigues 
me! The cover art is a beautiful thing to behold. Dare I say it? A work of 
ART! Heh,heh!

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax
Canada


>From: "MICHAEL  AMBROSE" <mikeargo@flash.net>
>Reply-To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
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>unseen DITKO ART!!!
>Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 18:06:42 -0500
>
>Phil, I'm highly interested in seeing that interview in print, as is
>everyone else. Can you expand any on the particular Charlton war and 
>romance
>books Mr. McCarron worked on--how many stories, which titles, a more
>definite time period, etc.?
>
>Mike A
>
> > Who is Owen McCarron? If you don't know, be not ashamed. Owen McCarron 
>is
>a
> > comic book artist who, in the 1960's, did several War as well as LOVE
>genre
> > comic books for Charlton Comics.
> >
>
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Hi!

Yes, I am familiar with Marvelous Fun and Games. It ran in colour in the
>local newspapers here, The Halifax Herald's (company) two daily newspapers,
>The Mail Star, and The Chronicle Herald. Also the weekend editions. How all
>this came about is included in the interview at length that I have already
>done with Owen McCarron. Owen was an employee of the Halifax Herald Ltd, 
>and
>Stan Lee had a lot to do with this as well. I was unaware that Marvelous 
>Fun
>and Games went to other newspapers in Canada or the USA as well. Is this
>correct?
>
>Owen McCarron approached Marvel after doing similar pages with other comics
>characters if memory serves. But it is all in the interview that I have not
>transcribed yet. Stan Lee thought it was a great idea. Was it in papers in
>your area? Where do you live?
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Phil Latter
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>Canada
>
> >From: "dddeggco" <dddeggco@aol.com>
> >Reply-To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> >To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [charlton-l] OT: Marvelous Fun and Games (was Re:  Owen
> >McCarron...)
> >Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:05:20 -0000
> >
> >--- In charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, "phil latter" wrote:
> > > However, I intend an additional meet with him to ask several more
> > > questions and take some accompanying photographs of both himself as
> >well as
> > > his collection of art and other questions. Believe me, that is
> >question #1
> > > on the top of the list that I intend to pin down.
> >
> >In the late 1970s when Marvel,
> >in association with the Register
> >and Tribune Syndicate, were trying
> >their best to take over the comic
> >pages of the newspapers (Howard
> >the Duck, Spider-Man, Conan, Hulk)
> >they also released a Sunday only
> >feature called "Marvelous Fun and Games".
> >
> >This was done by Owen McCarron. This was a game page
> >which featured all the Marvel characters.
> >
> >Please ask him how this came about. I believe he was
> >doing similar stuff in the books. It was no doubt used
> >by Marvel to familiarize the public to other Mavel
> >characters. Does he know who suggested this feature?
> >How long did it last? Did he come up with all the ideas?
> >etc.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >D.D.Degg
> >
>
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester 
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> I guess a link to that comicography page would help:
> 
http://www11.brinkster.com/sargesteel/charltonheroes/comicography.html
> 
> And I don't know why it won't show my e-mail address -- it's 
> ericnewsom at lycos.com
> 
> Thanks again,
> --Eric

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I guess a link to that comicography page would help:
> 
http://www11.brinkster.com/sargesteel/charltonheroes/comicography.html
> 
> And I don't know why it won't show my e-mail address -- it's 
> ericnewsom at lycos.com
> 
> Thanks again,
> --Eric

And a page on The Prankster if you're interested in linking:  
http://members.tripod.com/originalvigilante/prankster.htm

--Rich



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Rich,

   Is that your page?  I've already put a link down to that, and to 
Sinistro, Boy Fiend, on the links page under the Characters listing.  
I've consulted this webpage many a time, when I first became enamored 
of the Greg Saunders character, and I picked up Danger Trail #1 per 
the review on the page today at HeroesCon.  Speaking of HeroesCon, I 
picked up a ton of books today, so there's no telling what covers I 
still need and which ones I can scan in from what I bought.  I'll 
check back in tomorrow.

Thanks!
--Eric


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I found a copy the other day, and this one is the funniest I've read 
yet. Lots of good vintage Charlton artwork with some very modern 
dialogue. Also of note is a new story by Ernie Colon...great stuff!

Dean


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Sorry it has taken me so long to do it, but I have finally updated E-
Man.  Check out the story review and misc. gallery.

Rome


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Now they return as part of the Justice League or former League in the 
light and fun "Formerly Known As The Justice League" mini-series 
currently available from DC. It ain't much, but then Charlton fans 
have become used to taking what we can get.

Dean


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In a message dated 7/25/03 8:58:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Message: 1
>   Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:30:39 -0000
>   From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
> Subject: Captain Atom &Blue Beetle Return!
> 
> Now they return as part of the Justice League or former League in the 
> light and fun "Formerly Known As The Justice League" mini-series 
> currently available from DC. It ain't much, but then Charlton fans 
> have become used to taking what we can get.
> 
> Dean

Scott: And Beetle leading the team instead of Captain Atom, from what I hear! 
Some may complain about the characterization of Beetle, but going back and 
reading (or re-reading) you see that underneath the humor, Beetle was still 
incredibley smart - second to Batman. DeMatteiss really made Beetle into a real 
person to me (and I even forgive him and Giffen for making Ted fat for a short 
period of time). Beetle to me became someone I knew whether he was grieving 
about Scott Free's "death" (even though later they find out it was a robot) and 
during a time travel story when he simpathized with Wally seeing Barry Allen, 
wondering how he would react if he was a few feet from Dan. Ditto with Cap, 
they didn't really delve into his personal life - that was already being handled 
by Cary Bates in his own title - but we got to see Cap take charge of a team, 
a little inexperienced - but that's what made a comic to me into an enjoyable 
sitcom. The awkward moments with Fox and Catherine, to his characterization in 
dealing with veteran superheroes like Wally, Rex, Ralph, and Kara.

So, if you miss comics that were *fun* and made you laugh, cry, and still at 
the same time *wow* you with action, get Formerly Known As The Justice League. 
It's like drinking a beer with old friends you haven't seen in 15 years.

Blue Beetle: What kind of superhero name is "the Green Batman"? 
That's almost as dumb as-

Batman: The Blue Beetle?

(Beetle and Bats discussing what it would be like if 
Batman had Guy Gardner's Green Lantern ring)


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Hey guys, how many issues of Charlton Bullseye were published?  I am 
ashamed I don't know the answer.

Rome


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Rome,
 
A total of five issues of the first series of Charlton Bullseye were published. These were magazine sized with colour covers, except for #1, which had a b and w cover. I have # 1,3,4,5 but am missing #2. They started in 1975, ended in 1976. Speaking of which, does anyone have an extra copy of #2 for sale/ trade-? It has an E-man cover.
 
The second series of Charlton Bullseye were full colour comic books. There were started with # 1 having a June 1981 cover date, ran ten issues. Note: The O.P.G lists as well two issues of Charlton Bullseye Special # 1,2. However, while planned, these were NOT published. I have had this confirmed from several dealers. Meaning, it a O.P.G error. Nice hearing from you again. We haven't chatted in awhile.
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Rome <romeandshelly@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey guys, how many issues of Charlton Bullseye were published?  I am 
ashamed I don't know the answer.

Rome



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Hey , here's a thought . 
  Has anybody here ever read much of Charlton's PHANTOM comic book , 
which ran seven or so years , far more than any other Charlton hero 
title ? 
  Let's , especially , if possible , discuss the issues other than 
the end-of-the-run " fan favorite " issues , the Don Newton ones ( 
Only about a 1/2 dozen , I think . ) .
  Since getting involved with Phantom fandom ( Note: Notice I didn't 
say " Phandom " . Thank you ! ) , and , air-mail subscribing to Frew 
Publications' Australian Phantom comic...I have , in fact , found out 
that many Phantom fans do not reate the non-Newton Charltons very 
highly . At all ! 
  Frew has all but never reprinted any , and , I've seen the ( 
{Perhaps it's what they refer to as the " Gold Key-King-Charlton " 
material in general , but...) C. material objected to on continuity/" 
trueness " standards - having an evil witch doctor actually get into 
the Phantom's cave and release a poison snske , eennnnyyhoo !



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Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic a 
charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served The 
Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo and 
Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
other artists who were closer to the strip version of the character. 
I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. Don 
Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took over 
the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and alas a 
bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to collect 
up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there before 
Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice prices...mostly 
Aparo issues.

Dean


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Dean,
 
I,too, rather liked Aparo's treatment of The Phantom at Charlton a great deal, but equally like the Newton touch. 
 
I, too, would love to have a full run of the King and Charlton Phantom runs. They all seem to be pretty scarce though. Almost the ONLY time I get any are from mail order dealers. My guess is that folks who acquire them hang onto them for their lifetimes. Chalton's distribution, too, to be kind, was spotty at best.
 
Phil
Canada

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic a 
charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served The 
Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo and 
Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
other artists who were closer to the strip version of the character. 
I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. Don 
Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took over 
the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and alas a 
bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to collect 
up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there before 
Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice prices...mostly 
Aparo issues.

Dean


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Eh, um....(?!?!?!?) In English, please....-?

Thanks cuz I want to talk about that...

Kendra




--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
<waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> Hey , here's a thought . 
>   Has anybody here ever read much of Charlton's PHANTOM comic 
book , 
> which ran seven or so years , far more than any other Charlton 
hero 
> title ? 
>   Let's , especially , if possible , discuss the issues other than 
> the end-of-the-run " fan favorite " issues , the Don Newton ones ( 
> Only about a 1/2 dozen , I think . ) .
>   Since getting involved with Phantom fandom ( Note: Notice I 
didn't 
> say " Phandom " . Thank you ! ) , and , air-mail subscribing to 
Frew 
> Publications' Australian Phantom comic...I have , in fact , found 
out 
> that many Phantom fans do not reate the non-Newton Charltons very 
> highly . At all ! 
>   Frew has all but never reprinted any , and , I've seen the ( 
> {Perhaps it's what they refer to as the " Gold Key-King-Charlton " 
> material in general , but...) C. material objected to on 
continuity/" 
> trueness " standards - having an evil witch doctor actually get 
into 
> the Phantom's cave and release a poison snske , eennnnyyhoo !



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Hey,

The Wolf Phantoms were brand new at the time, eh? And in full colour 
too! I have two of them. I happen to think they were very well done. 
Anyone want to chat about that, hmm?

Kendra



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I have scanned copies of both runs of that title.  At least this 
way, I won't have to worry about water damage. :D  (Anyone else scan 
their comics?)


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> Rome,
>  
> A total of five issues of the first series of Charlton Bullseye 
were published. These were magazine sized with colour covers, except 
for #1, which had a b and w cover. I have # 1,3,4,5 but am missing 
#2. They started in 1975, ended in 1976. Speaking of which, does 
anyone have an extra copy of #2 for sale/ trade-? It has an E-man 
cover.
>  
> The second series of Charlton Bullseye were full colour comic 
books. There were started with # 1 having a June 1981 cover date, 
ran ten issues. Note: The O.P.G lists as well two issues of Charlton 
Bullseye Special # 1,2. However, while planned, these were NOT 
published. I have had this confirmed from several dealers. Meaning, 
it a O.P.G error. Nice hearing from you again. We haven't chatted in 
awhile.
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 
> Rome <romeandshelly@y...> wrote:
> Hey guys, how many issues of Charlton Bullseye were published?  I 
am 
> ashamed I don't know the answer.
> 
> Rome
> 
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I'm slowly getting a set of these hard to find books.  Mostly so 
that I can archive/scan them and add them to my already massive 
library.  By chance, has anyone already done this???




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Phil & Dean,

I also like the Phantom quite a bit. Pretty cool character. 
Boyette was good on some features but I don't think his "style" was 
really suited to this "ghost who walks" as much as either Aparo or 
Don Newton. I have got to say that I agree with Dean when you said 
that Aparo was the Aparo. Jim was made for The Phantom the way I see 
it. And oooooooooh those cool Aparo Phantom covers. Nothing wrong 
with that the way I see it. Makes me kinda wish I had them all....
How many Phantom Avon novels were made? Anyone???













--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
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> Dean,
>  
> I,too, rather liked Aparo's treatment of The Phantom at Charlton a 
great deal, but equally like the Newton touch. 
>  
> I, too, would love to have a full run of the King and Charlton 
Phantom runs. They all seem to be pretty scarce though. Almost the 
ONLY time I get any are from mail order dealers. My guess is that 
folks who acquire them hang onto them for their lifetimes. Chalton's 
distribution, too, to be kind, was spotty at best.
>  
> Phil
> Canada
> 
> Dean <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic a 
> charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served 
The 
> Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo 
and 
> Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
> other artists who were closer to the strip version of the 
character. 
> I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
> though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. 
Don 
> Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took 
over 
> the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and alas 
a 
> bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to collect 
> up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there before 
> Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
> steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice prices...mostly 
> Aparo issues.
> 
> Dean
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Just checking in as a new member. Hiya!
 
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New member but my posts don't seem to be posting...

I'll try one more time...I want to talk about The Phantom, 2...

XOX

Kendra



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--- In Ch






...That said , that 20c Phantom cover...I just DON'T recall it at 
ALL! Could the Phantom have been poorly distributed...Or , did I 
jus , flip right past it...?

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
wrote:
> Dean,
>  
> I,too, rather liked Aparo's treatment of The Phantom at Charlton a 
great deal, but equally like the Newton touch. 
>  
> I, too, would love to have a full run of the King and Charlton 
Phantom runs. They all seem to be pretty scarce though. Almost the 
ONLY time I get any are from mail order dealers. My guess is that 
folks who acquire them hang onto them for their lifetimes. Chalton's 
distribution, too, to be kind, was spotty at best.
>  
> Phil
> Canada
> 
> Dean <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic a 
> charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served 
The 
> Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo 
and 
> Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
> other artists who were closer to the strip version of the 
character. 
> I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
> though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. 
Don 
> Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took 
over 
> the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and 
alas a 
> bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to 
collect 
> up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there before 
> Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
> steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice prices...mostly 
> Aparo issues.
> 
> Dean
> 
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Hi!
 
I am new and want to chat comics. Anyone want to chat?
 
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Walt, 
 
I think most Charlton Phantoms were very poorly distributed. I don't have a lot of 20 cent cover priced Phantoms but I have a few: #51,52,53.
 
I must have somehow missed your previous post, though. WHICH 20 cent Phantom cover? Can you describe it, please?
 
Phil Latter
Canada

waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@yahoo.com> wrote:
That said , that 20c Phantom cover...I just DON'T recall it at 
ALL! Could the Phantom have been poorly distributed...Or , did I 
jus , flip right past it...?

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
wrote:
> Dean,
>  
> I,too, rather liked Aparo's treatment of The Phantom at Charlton a 
great deal, but equally like the Newton touch. 
>  
> I, too, would love to have a full run of the King and Charlton 
Phantom runs. They all seem to be pretty scarce though. Almost the 
ONLY time I get any are from mail order dealers. My guess is that 
folks who acquire them hang onto them for their lifetimes. Chalton's 
distribution, too, to be kind, was spotty at best.
>  
> Phil
> Canada
> 
> Dean <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic a 
> charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served 
The 
> Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo 
and 
> Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
> other artists who were closer to the strip version of the 
character. 
> I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
> though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. 
Don 
> Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took 
over 
> the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and 
alas a 
> bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to 
collect 
> up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there before 
> Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
> steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice prices...mostly 
> Aparo issues.
> 
> Dean
> 
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Welcome Kendra.

kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:Just checking in as a new member. Hiya!

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Hi Kendra,
 
Wow, you are not too far away from me at all, then. Yes. I am in Halifax. I guess signing my posts with "Phil Latter, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada" was a big clue. Ha,ha.
 
Yes, I have some Phantom duplicates. Which ones do you need? 
 
Speaking for myself, I need: # 19 through # 26, 28,29,41,43 through 48,50,54,56,57,58,59,61,65,66,68. Also, I have five or six issues that I would like to upgrade with higher-grade copies. How about you? What ones do you need? So, I have a ways to go to get them all. And I cannot find them in any stores. I have to order from mail order dealers any I get. It is odd. There are several comics specialty stores in my area, well-stocked. But no Phantoms, ever. Noone brings them in.
 
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Hiya back Rome & Shelley!
 
Whereabouts are you folks? Hmm? What kind'a comics do you like? Me? All kinds. Except Archie's & stuff like that. I know this is a Charlton group Shelley but...can ya imagine you or I, if we were superheroes, dressing like Wonder Woman? Not!
 
I'd fall out of my top! And that's not cuz God didn't bless me! LOL
 
I like The Phantom a lot & I liked the movie.
 
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Yahoo! Groups <notify@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hiya back Rome & Shelley!
 
Whereabouts are you folks? Hmm? What kind'a comics do you like? Me? All kinds. Except Archie's & stuff like that. I know this is a Charlton group Shelley but...can ya imagine you or I, if we were superheroes, dressing like Wonder Woman? Not!
 
I'd fall out of my top! And that's not cuz God didn't bless me! LOL
 
I like The Phantom a lot & I liked the movie.
 
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According to The Deep Woods (a great website dedicated to all things 
Phantom) there were 15 Avon novels featuring The Ghost Who Walks. I 
have three of them I think, the first one and then a couple of 
others. The covers are quite handsome.

Pat Boyette's disntinctive style was superb for mystery stories, and 
he even managed to bring a vivid quality to science fiction. But when 
it came to heroics he was at a distinct disadvantage. His oddly 
realistic style didn't play with the usual bodystyles we associate 
with the underwear set. Modern artists can't draw the real world, but 
they do good superheroes. The classic artists did great real world 
and it was the superheroes who looked out of place. 

Dean


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There are two links to The Deep Woods in the Bookmarks section. One 
goes to the sites front page and is listed under "Deep Woods". The 
other goes directly to the Charlton page and can be found 
under "Phantom Chronology". Both are worth checking out.

Dean


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Hi. I=B9m just checking in as a new member. For those of you who don=B9t kn=
ow me
(and that=B9s probably almost everyone), I do a comic strip and occasional
comic book called LAST KISS. I use a lot of old art (mostly from one of
Charlton=B9s old romance series=8BFIRST KISS) and re-dialogue it as humor
stories. I bought the rights to FIRST KISS when Charlton was selling off
it=B9s properties in the late 1980=B9s. About a year ago I also purchased t=
he
right (and the stats) for an old Charlton sports series, FRANK MERRIWELL AT
YALE.

My other job is writing Disney comics. I guess that=B9s about it on backgro=
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on me. I just wanted to let people know I=B9m around. I=B9m looking forward=
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the various discussions about Charlton.

Best Wishes,
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Has anyone read PEACEKEEPER from Future Comics? From the brief synopsis I've 
read the character and stories sounds alot like Boyette's Charlton Peacemaker, 
which isn't surprising seeing how Bob Layton and Dick Giordano are involved 
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Haven't read the book, but doubt that it will be much like Charlton's 
Peacemaker other than a vague similarity in names.  Peacemaker is, as far as I know, 
a character owned by DC and Giordano wouldn't rip off his ex-employer.

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Dean,
 
I only have one of those myself, #9: Killer's Town. I wish I had more of them.
 
Phil Latter
Canada

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
According to The Deep Woods (a great website dedicated to all things 
Phantom) there were 15 Avon novels featuring The Ghost Who Walks. I 
have three of them I think, the first one and then a couple of 
others. The covers are quite handsome.

Pat Boyette's disntinctive style was superb for mystery stories, and 
he even managed to bring a vivid quality to science fiction. But when 
it came to heroics he was at a distinct disadvantage. His oddly 
realistic style didn't play with the usual bodystyles we associate 
with the underwear set. Modern artists can't draw the real world, but 
they do good superheroes. The classic artists did great real world 
and it was the superheroes who looked out of place. 

Dean


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I have most of Peacekeeper, yes. But I am missing # 2. The series reminds me more of Thunder Agents Noman.
 
Phil Latter
Canada

atomjla@aol.com wrote:
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read the character and stories sounds alot like Boyette's Charlton Peacemaker, 
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Respectfully, I agree. I don't think it is anything like Peacemaker, except for the similar name. Again, a lot like (let's say, inspired by..) Noman of Thunder Agents.
 
Phil
Canada

bigal4151@aol.com wrote:
Haven't read the book, but doubt that it will be much like Charlton's 
Peacemaker other than a vague similarity in names.  Peacemaker is, as far as I know, 
a character owned by DC and Giordano wouldn't rip off his ex-employer.

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Apparently, I have missed whatever issues of Peacekeeper have come out, which 
is odd considering that I've ordered it from my dealer through Previews.  If 
that's the case, heads are gonna roll....

     Allen Smith


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Allen,
 
It wasn't Previews fault. All the Future Comics titles shipped months and months and months etc,etc,etc,etc,etc .....late. The exact same thing happened to me. I ordered them all from Previews and none came in. I eventually got them all from another store, who ordered them from a source other than Previews. Again, the fault was not Previews nor your store. The fault lays with Future Comics.
 
Phil Latter
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bigal4151@aol.com wrote:
Apparently, I have missed whatever issues of Peacekeeper have come out, which 
is odd considering that I've ordered it from my dealer through Previews.  If 
that's the case, heads are gonna roll....

     Allen Smith


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John,
=20
yes, you are very welcome! Tell us more about yourself and how long have yo=
u worked in comics, including Disney comics, including many of the titles y=
ou have written. Are they signed?
=20
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:
Hi. I=B9m just checking in as a new member. For those of you who don=B9t kn=
ow me
(and that=B9s probably almost everyone), I do a comic strip and occasional
comic book called LAST KISS. I use a lot of old art (mostly from one of
Charlton=B9s old romance series=8BFIRST KISS) and re-dialogue it as humor
stories. I bought the rights to FIRST KISS when Charlton was selling off
it=B9s properties in the late 1980=B9s. About a year ago I also purchased t=
he
right (and the stats) for an old Charlton sports series, FRANK MERRIWELL AT
YALE.

My other job is writing Disney comics. I guess that=B9s about it on backgro=
und
on me. I just wanted to let people know I=B9m around. I=B9m looking forward=
 to
the various discussions about Charlton.

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
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Thanks for the information.  Guess I'll just have to wait for them to arrive 
at my regular shopping venue, Empire Comics, or my backup retailer, The Great 
Escape in Louisville.

     Allen Smith


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Al,
 
Glad to help. What happened was, Future Comics announced specific publication dates which they did not meet, and telling Previews. They were like six months behind. The first one I saw was the Free Comic Book Day version of Metallix #1. They started to ship after that, AND shipped some issues out of order. I don't even know if Peacekeeper #2 was published or not. I haven't see Freemind, but get Peacekeeper, Metallix and DeathMask. Has anyone here seen FreeMind? Is it any good?
 
Phil Latter
Canada

bigal4151@aol.com wrote:
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at my regular shopping venue, Empire Comics, or my backup retailer, The Great 
Escape in Louisville.

     Allen Smith


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Welcome John. I really enjoy Lask Kiss and the last couple of issues 
have been the topics of discussion here from time to time. I noticed 
in the latest issue that a few copies of Last Kiss were available. 
Are they still? I'd love to get one of those. 

Dean


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I've seen a few issues,and I've taken a few in hand given them a 
browse. They seem harmless enough, but I haven't seen anything in the 
Future Comics line that really excites me sufficiently to add 
substantially to my buy list. The ramshackle way they began 
publishing didn't inspire confidence, and I still get itchy about 
that stuff after several mid-90's publishers folded up on me in mid-
storyline. The talen at Future is solid, but the concepts haven't 
rocked me yet.

Dean


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Dean,
 
I agree with you about, firstly, the fact that Future Comics got off to a rocky start, not meeting any of their deadlines. I am NOT even sure Peacekeeper #2 was published. Any idea folks? Some latter issues of these titles were published before the previous issues, also! The Future Comics titles I get: Peacekeeper, Metallix, and DeathMask don't rock me either. And it is hard to empathize with a main character, DeathMask who is a gruesome murderer, far worse than the bad guys he fights against. EG: rob a jewelry store, he dismembers you limb by limb, etc. Unggh.
 
I am getting 3 titles but not sure if I will continue long.
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
I've seen a few issues,and I've taken a few in hand given them a 
browse. They seem harmless enough, but I haven't seen anything in the 
Future Comics line that really excites me sufficiently to add 
substantially to my buy list. The ramshackle way they began 
publishing didn't inspire confidence, and I still get itchy about 
that stuff after several mid-90's publishers folded up on me in mid-
storyline. The talen at Future is solid, but the concepts haven't 
rocked me yet.

Dean


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--- In Ch






...Firstish --- I was referring to a 20c cover , I'm sure it was by 
Boyette , that , IIRC , showed the P> being kidnapped by aliens , or 
at least what seemed so . Very flashy and neat-looking on the 'puter 
I was using then . 
  I , actually made some copies of it...I hope the Phantom covers'll 
go up in the Archives anyway , with that Newton " '76 " story , which 
I haven't had the time to read , staying up as well ? I've meant to 
plug this again to the Deep Woods board...Incidentally , both the 
writer of Deep Woods' Charlton article , and , the head ( Guran ) of 
it     ! Pat Boyette's artwork...
  It would appear that a lenghty post of mine , I guess the one you 
refer to missing , did not go up . In it , I gave my perspective on 
the " Charlton's famously lousy distribution " , which I slightly 
diasgreed with , remembering that , as a 70s fan , Charlton were as 
available as DC , Narvel , and Archie in my area , IIRC . By 
contrast , Gold Key , as I know I have said many times before over 
these clubs , was , simply , not sold on the newsstands in my area AT 
ALL . 100% .
  A longer version , perhaps , later , perhaps also 
exploring that " Charltons sold at less than cover
price at five-and-dimes " legend ?????????

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
wrote:
> Walt, 
>  
> I think most Charlton Phantoms were very poorly distributed. I 
don't have a lot of 20 cent cover priced Phantoms but I have a few: 
#51,52,53.
>  
> I must have somehow missed your previous post, though. WHICH 20 
cent Phantom cover? Can you describe it, please?
>  
> Phil Latter
> Canada
> 
> waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> That said , that 20c Phantom cover...I just DON'T recall it at 
> ALL! Could the Phantom have been poorly distributed...Or , did I 
> jus , flip right past it...?
> 
> arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Dean,
> >  
> > I,too, rather liked Aparo's treatment of The Phantom at Charlton 
a 
> great deal, but equally like the Newton touch. 
> >  
> > I, too, would love to have a full run of the King and Charlton 
> Phantom runs. They all seem to be pretty scarce though. Almost the 
> ONLY time I get any are from mail order dealers. My guess is that 
> folks who acquire them hang onto them for their lifetimes. 
Chalton's 
> distribution, too, to be kind, was spotty at best.
> >  
> > Phil
> > Canada
> > 
> > Dean <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> > Admittedly Newton's Phantom was off-model, but it gave the comic 
a 
> > charge of modernity that it was somewhat lacking. Charlton served 
> The 
> > Ghost Who Walks quite well during his tenure with them. Jim Aparo 
> and 
> > Pat Boyette both did substantial runs on the character along with 
> > other artists who were closer to the strip version of the 
> character. 
> > I've always preferred Aparo's version to any of the the others, 
> > though I'm find it hard to choose between Boyette's and Newton's. 
> Don 
> > Sherman and Frank Bolle did a few issues just before Newton took 
> over 
> > the book and those adventures are bit more like the strips and 
> alas a 
> > bit lackluster by comic book standards. I've long wanted to 
> collect 
> > up the Phantom run (I only have a few issues here and there 
before 
> > Newton's run) , but the prices while not unreasonable are a bit 
> > steep. I've found a few in discount boxes for nice 
prices...mostly 
> > Aparo issues.
> > 
> > Dean
> > 
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...I had them , they introduced , somewhat more , to the Phantom in 
general , and , completely introduced me to the Scandanavian-
assembled original comic book material that they printed , the same 
material that the Frew AU one primarily draws from .
  If you mean a real-time " chat " , it's unlikely I can find the 
time/direct my schedule to it , especially given the non-luck I had 
when I tried to join in in a sceduled chat at Comics Cavalcade .

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "wonkas2003" 
<wonkas2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> The Wolf Phantoms were brand new at the time, eh? And in full 
colour 
> too! I have two of them. I happen to think they were very well 
done. 
> Anyone want to chat about that, hmm?
> 
> Kendra


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...Actually , I have not seen any Future titles , though I've read 
about 'em . 
  They used a directly-over-th'-'Net system of distribution that 
bypassed Diamond for the first few things they had , IIRC , which 
could have contributed to that .


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waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have that one wherein The Phantom is being kidnapped by aliens from outer space on the cover. A UFO hovers overhead. The story is called The Intruders, (ala TV's The Invaders), and it is Charlton The Phantom #49. With,yes, a 20 cent cover price! And yes, the art was by the late Pat Boyette.

As far as your missing post, I agree it likely did not go up, since I myself did not see not receive it either. Since Kendra missed it too, which is why neither one of us knew which 20 cent Phantom cover you originally were referring to, I think it is safe to say it never posted, for whatever reason.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada

---------------------------------------------

...Firstish --- I was referring to a 20c cover , I'm sure it was by 
Boyette , that , IIRC , showed the P> being kidnapped by aliens , or 
at least what seemed so . Very flashy and neat-looking on the 'puter 
I was using then . 
  I , actually made some copies of it...I hope the Phantom covers'll 
go up in the Archives anyway , with that Newton " '76 " story , which 
I haven't had the time to read , staying up as well ? I've meant to 
plug this again to the Deep Woods board...Incidentally , both the 
writer of Deep Woods' Charlton article , and , the head ( Guran ) of 
it     ! Pat Boyette's artwork...
  It would appear that a lenghty post of mine , I guess the one you 
refer to missing , did not go up . In it , I gave my perspective on 
the " Charlton's famously lousy distribution " , which I slightly 
diasgreed with , remembering that , as a 70s fan , Charlton were as 
available as DC , Narvel , and Archie in my area , IIRC . By 
contrast , Gold Key , as I know I have said many times before over 
these clubs , was , simply , not sold on the newsstands in my area AT 
ALL . 100% .
  A longer version , perhaps , later , perhaps also 
exploring that " Charltons sold at less than cover
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Just so as not to completely confuse everyone, I should point out that the post below (resent again) was sent by me, Phil, not Waltland. Once I had a copy delivered back, it said, "Waltland wrote:" ...(what you see below), which was mine. Sorry.
 
Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

I have that one wherein The Phantom is being kidnapped by aliens from outer space on the cover. A UFO hovers overhead. The story is called The Intruders, (ala TV's The Invaders), and it is Charlton The Phantom #49. With,yes, a 20 cent cover price! And yes, the art was by the late Pat Boyette.

As far as your missing post, I agree it likely did not go up, since I myself did not see not receive it either. Since Kendra missed it too, which is why neither one of us knew which 20 cent Phantom cover you originally were referring to, I think it is safe to say it never posted, for whatever reason.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada

---------------------------------------------

...Firstish --- I was referring to a 20c cover , I'm sure it was by 
Boyette , that , IIRC , showed the P> being kidnapped by aliens , or 
at least what seemed so . Very flashy and neat-looking on the 'puter 
I was using then . 
  I , actually made some copies of it...I hope the Phantom covers'll 
go up in the Archives anyway , with that Newton " '76 " story , which 
I haven't had the time to read , staying up as well ? I've meant to 
plug this again to the Deep Woods board...Incidentally , both the 
writer of Deep Woods' Charlton article , and , the head ( Guran ) of 
it     ! Pat Boyette's artwork...
  It would appear that a lenghty post of mine , I guess the one you 
refer to missing , did not go up . In it , I gave my perspective on 
the " Charlton's famously lousy distribution " , which I slightly 
diasgreed with , remembering that , as a 70s fan , Charlton were as 
available as DC , Narvel , and Archie in my area , IIRC . By 
contrast , Gold Key , as I know I have said many times before over 
these clubs , was , simply , not sold on the newsstands in my area AT 
ALL . 100% .
  A longer version , perhaps , later , perhaps also 
exploring that " Charltons sold at less than cover
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>Welcome John. I really enjoy Last Kiss and the last couple of issues
>have been the topics of discussion here from time to time. I noticed
>in the latest issue that a few copies of Last Kiss were available.
>Are they still? I'd love to get one of those.

>Dean

Thanks, Dean. I still have copies of Last Kiss #2, 3, & 4 for sale. (See my
web site at www.lastkisscomics.com for details.) However, I=B9m completely
sold out of issue #1 (which has an interview with Charlton scribe Joe Gill.=
)
The last I heard, my publisher (for the first four issues), Shanda Fantasy
Arts, had found a few issues of #1 and was selling them for $10.50 each
includes shipping and handling. I=B9ll e-mail Shanda and find out if copies
are still available.


Best Wishes,
John Lustig
7218 27th Ave. N.E.
Seattle, 98115
Voice: 525-6257
FAX: 206 525-2386
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> yes, you are very welcome! Tell us more about yourself and how long have you
> worked in comics, including Disney comics, including many of the titles you
> have written. Are they signed?
> 
> Phil Latter

Thanks for asking, Phil. I'll give you the whirlwind, 10 cent tour of my
life:

Well, the first script I sold was a Daffy Duck story to Gold Key/Western
back in 1977. My budding comics career was cut short immediately after that
when I got my first newspaper job (as a reporter.) I didn't write and sell
another comic book script (at least none that I want to admit to) until 1989
when I started freelancing for Gladstone. I've been writing Disney stories
ever since (Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge & occasionally Mickey Mouse.) For the
last few years, I've been freelancing for Egmont--Disney's main comic book
licensee in Europe.

My stories have been published by Gladstone (I & II), Disney and now
Gemstone. (The first issue of Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge had one of my stories
in it. It's the golf story in the back of the issue and it's a reprint of
one of my stories--although like many of my stories for the European market,
it's never appeared before in this country.) Now that Disney comics are
being published again in the U.S., I'm sure more of my Egmont stories will
be showing up here.

Phil, you wanted to know whether my work has been "signed." In most cases,
my stories have been published with my credits listed somewhere in the comic
book. In a few cases, my work has been credited to other people--mostly my
sometime partner William Van Horn. And in one strange case, I was actually
credited with a story when I shouldn't have been.

I think the work that will probably be of the most interest to people here,
though, is my Last Kiss material which uses old Charlton artwork. I started
doing that in 1996 (?) with single panel gags in Comics Buyer's Guide. For
the last few years, it's been running every week in CBG as a comic strip.
And earlier this summer, I put out the fourth issue of the comic book
version of Last Kiss.

I could blather on and probably will one of these days because I've had some
interesting contacts with some former Charlton staffers because of Last
Kiss, but I'm sure most people have already dozed off from boredom by now.

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
7218 27th Ave. N.E.
Seattle, 98115
Voice: 525-6257
FAX: 206 525-2386
www.lastkisscomics.com
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--- In Ch






...Oh , and I said that guran , etc. , HATE! Boyette's artwork , 
ut , that particular machine's censorship...

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
wrote:
> Just so as not to completely confuse everyone, I should point out 
that the post below (resent again) was sent by me, Phil, not 
Waltland. Once I had a copy delivered back, it said, "Waltland 
wrote:" ...(what you see below), which was mine. Sorry.
>  
> Phil
> 
> Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> 
> I have that one wherein The Phantom is being kidnapped by aliens 
from outer space on the cover. A UFO hovers overhead. The story is 
called The Intruders, (ala TV's The Invaders), and it is Charlton 
The Phantom #49. With,yes, a 20 cent cover price! And yes, the art 
was by the late Pat Boyette.
> 
> As far as your missing post, I agree it likely did not go up, 
since I myself did not see not receive it either. Since Kendra 
missed it too, which is why neither one of us knew which 20 cent 
Phantom cover you originally were referring to, I think it is safe 
to say it never posted, for whatever reason.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> 
> Canada
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> ...Firstish --- I was referring to a 20c cover , I'm sure it was 
by 
> Boyette , that , IIRC , showed the P> being kidnapped by aliens , 
or 
> at least what seemed so . Very flashy and neat-looking on 
the 'puter 
> I was using then . 
>   I , actually made some copies of it...I hope the Phantom 
covers'll 
> go up in the Archives anyway , with that Newton " '76 " story , 
which 
> I haven't had the time to read , staying up as well ? I've meant 
to 
> plug this again to the Deep Woods board...Incidentally , both the 
> writer of Deep Woods' Charlton article , and , the head ( Guran ) 
of 
> it     ! Pat Boyette's artwork...
>   It would appear that a lenghty post of mine , I guess the one 
you 
> refer to missing , did not go up . In it , I gave my perspective 
on 
> the " Charlton's famously lousy distribution " , which I slightly 
> diasgreed with , remembering that , as a 70s fan , Charlton were 
as 
> available as DC , Narvel , and Archie in my area , IIRC . By 
> contrast , Gold Key , as I know I have said many times before over 
> these clubs , was , simply , not sold on the newsstands in my area 
AT 
> ALL . 100% .
>   A longer version , perhaps , later , perhaps also 
> exploring that " Charltons sold at less than cover
> price at five-and-dimes " legend ?????????
> 
> 
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You are far too modest, John. I am fascinated, and I bet we all are. I have collected comics for 35+ years but I have not heard of Last Kiss. Can you tell me more about it? I heard that they are reprints of Charlton Love comics, with the story completely rewritten around the existing, old art to make them over into humour stories. Sounds hilarious. Is this true?
 
I have never been a "funny animal" comics fan, BUT I still buy the Gladstone Mickey Mouse reprints for quite awhile. Especially the early "black pie-eye stories", as a break from superhero fare, and because I quite enjoyed them!
 
I'd like to hear LOTS more about your fascinating career. Mostly, these groups consist of lots of comics fans, readers and collectors, but scant few (almost no) working pros in the medium. Thus, I wager it is safe to say that we all would like to hear LOTS more. Including some of your experiences, both bitter and sweet. Also, other pros you have worked with, and what each was like, in your opinion.
 
Till then (soon, I hope)...
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:
> yes, you are very welcome! Tell us more about yourself and how long have you
> worked in comics, including Disney comics, including many of the titles you
> have written. Are they signed?
> 
> Phil Latter

Thanks for asking, Phil. I'll give you the whirlwind, 10 cent tour of my
life:

Well, the first script I sold was a Daffy Duck story to Gold Key/Western
back in 1977. My budding comics career was cut short immediately after that
when I got my first newspaper job (as a reporter.) I didn't write and sell
another comic book script (at least none that I want to admit to) until 1989
when I started freelancing for Gladstone. I've been writing Disney stories
ever since (Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge & occasionally Mickey Mouse.) For the
last few years, I've been freelancing for Egmont--Disney's main comic book
licensee in Europe.

My stories have been published by Gladstone (I & II), Disney and now
Gemstone. (The first issue of Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge had one of my stories
in it. It's the golf story in the back of the issue and it's a reprint of
one of my stories--although like many of my stories for the European market,
it's never appeared before in this country.) Now that Disney comics are
being published again in the U.S., I'm sure more of my Egmont stories will
be showing up here.

Phil, you wanted to know whether my work has been "signed." In most cases,
my stories have been published with my credits listed somewhere in the comic
book. In a few cases, my work has been credited to other people--mostly my
sometime partner William Van Horn. And in one strange case, I was actually
credited with a story when I shouldn't have been.

I think the work that will probably be of the most interest to people here,
though, is my Last Kiss material which uses old Charlton artwork. I started
doing that in 1996 (?) with single panel gags in Comics Buyer's Guide. For
the last few years, it's been running every week in CBG as a comic strip.
And earlier this summer, I put out the fourth issue of the comic book
version of Last Kiss.

I could blather on and probably will one of these days because I've had some
interesting contacts with some former Charlton staffers because of Last
Kiss, but I'm sure most people have already dozed off from boredom by now.

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
7218 27th Ave. N.E.
Seattle, 98115
Voice: 525-6257
FAX: 206 525-2386
www.lastkisscomics.com
john@lastkisscomics.com


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Waltsland...
 
You don't like Pat Boyette's stuff at all? On anything? Not to put words into your mouth. I am just wondering...
 
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...Oh , NO!!!!!!!!!!! , not at all , I like 'm !!!!!!!!!!! It's 
Guran , etc. , of Deep Woods who've said that !

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Waltsland,
 
Oops, sorry.
 
Phil
Canada

waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@yahoo.com> wrote:







...Oh , NO!!!!!!!!!!! , not at all , I like 'm !!!!!!!!!!! It's 
Guran , etc. , of Deep Woods who've said that !

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There has been a bookmark to John's Last Kiss website in the Links 
section for quite a while. I advise everyone to give it a check. It's 
a funny, funny book. And the website is interactive too.

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TThe Last Kiss by John Lustig is pretty funny, and at times, really hits 
home.  Oddly enough, the art on most of these stories is pretty good, I think that 
having a funny story written over the art makes you look at the art more 
closely.  There is a lot of Colletta and Trapani, as well as Dick Giordano, art in 
these things.  By the way, snippets of Last Kiss are printed in the Comic 
Buyers Guide, if you want to get some idea of what John's work is like.  Pretty 
funny.

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Phil, I=B9m happy to talk about Last Kiss since that has a direct tie to
Charlton. Unfortunately, as usual, I=B9m fighting deadlines and so I=B9m a =
bit
short on time. With that in mind, I hope people don=B9t mind if I quote a b=
it
of information from my web site, www.lastkisscomics.com:

In late 1987, Charlton Comics was selling off the rights to all its comic
books. By then, most of the "good stuff" had already been sold. What was
left were series and genres (war, romance, western and horror) that had
little appeal to modern American comic book fans=8Bmost of whom were only
interested in superhero comics. Despite that, I had a vague idea that it
might be possible to do something with the Charlton material.

For $400 I bought all rights to First Kiss - a 40-issue romance series
published from 1957 to 1965. I took a gamble and bought the series sight
unseen. It was the series with the most issues for the least amount of
money. And I pretty much got what I paid for - schlock!

Oh, it had some good art too - stuff by Dick Giordano, Vince Colletta, Jon
D=B9Agostino and others. But Charlton paid the lowest rates in comic books =
to
its creators and to make a living artists and writers had to churn out
stories very quickly. Speed was more important than quality.

And so, despite editor Pat Masulli=B9s pledge to readers on the first page =
of
the series, First Kiss fell far short of being "the finest of the magazines
dealing with affairs of the heart." Instead, it was often shoddy and almost
always quirky. Some stories (notably "Campus Crush" the first story in the
first issue of First Kiss) don=B9t make much sense. Despite the now-quaint,
1950=B9s morality of these stories, there=B9s a nightmarish quality to many=
 of
them. Primary First Kiss writer Joe Gill was working much too fast to worry
much about keeping characters consistent and logical. Anything can happen i=
n
First Kiss stories.

I guess that=B9s why I find them so entertaining.

That=B9s the end of the quote from the web site. To that, I can add that I=
=B9ve
had encounters or exchanged correspondence with several former Charlton
staffs=8BNicola Cuti, Dick Giordano, Joe Gill, and Joe Staton=8Band I=B9ve =
been
surprised and encouraged that they=B9ve all had favorable reactions to LAST
KISS. I interview Gill for the first issue of the comic book and found him
to be...well, colorful and crusty. How colorful? Enough that I couldn=B9t
print parts of the interview. I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Gill.

Dick Giordano is one of the nicest pros in the business. Even though I
couldn=B9t afford to pay him anything close to his regular rates, he kindly
drew a new story from a script I sent to him. (I=B9ve used a bit of new
artwork in the last three issues.) That story, =B3Widow Ms. Muffet,=B2 is t=
he
story of a little girl who wants to grow up and be a rich widow. Also in
issue #2 is an interview with Dick, plus some of Dick=B9s old romance stori=
es
that I=B9ve re-dialogued as humor pieces. Issue #2 is probably my favorite
issue.

I won=B9t go through an issue-by-issue description of the series, but I wil=
l
note that one unusual aspect of LAST KISS is the writing contest. In each
issue, I give readers a chance to re-write an old Charlton story (usually a
one-pager.) I print the best entries in the next issue.

Yes, I really do take the old stories, scan in the artwork, digitally remov=
e
the text and replace it with new text that I=B9ve written. Sometimes, there=
=B9s
a =B3blank space=B2 from where I=B9ve removed a word balloon and I have to =
draw in
a bit of background. (Or even a part of a head!) But I certainly don=B9t
consider myself to be an artist. I=B9m a writer who just noodles a bit to f=
ill
in those (luckily for me) simple backgrounds.

Sometimes, I=B9ll re-write a story with all the panels in order. Other time=
s
I=B9ll juggle the panels around or even bring in panels from other stories =
to
make the story work. (Whenever possible I try to use art by the same artist
in the story.) I=B9ve begun using some public domain artwork besides Charlt=
on
(most prominently in LAST KISS #4) and I=B9m going to be playing around wit=
h
this even more in future issues. The Charlton material, however, is likely
to remain the foundation of my work.

The artist who probably drew the most art for the original FIRST KISS serie=
s
(and therefore the artist whose work I use the most) is Vince Colletta.
Colletta=B9s work is often referred to in disgust by artists today because =
as
an inker he was often called on to work very quickly and as a result,
Colletta sometimes left out a lot of the detail put in by the penciller.
There were definitely times when he just hacked out the work and it shows.
When he felt like it (and had time), though, he could be really good. His
women could be gorgeous.

Let=B9s see...what else can I tell you? The first four issues of LAST KISS
were all published by Shanda Fantasy Arts and each one was 48 pages long an=
d
cost $4.99. Unless something happens to change my mind, I=B9ll be
self-publishing the series myself=8Bstarting in early 2004. One of the main
reasons for that is so I can change the format=8Bgoing to a smaller page
count, coming out more often and charging less per issue.

As to my Disney work, well I=B9m a little reluctant to get into that here i=
n
any detail. It seems too of topic to me. If anyone has an specific
questions, though, I=B9ll be happy to try and answer them.

--John Lustig
john@lastkisscomics.com
www.lastkisscomics.com

Phil Latter wrote:
You are far too modest, John. I am fascinated, and I bet we all are. I have
collected comics for 35+ years but I have not heard of Last Kiss. Can you
tell me more about it? I heard that they are reprints of Charlton Love
comics, with the story completely rewritten around the existing, old art to
make them over into humour stories. Sounds hilarious. Is this true?

I have never been a "funny animal" comics fan, BUT I still buy the Gladston=
e
Mickey Mouse reprints for quite awhile. Especially the early "black pie-eye
stories", as a break from superhero fare, and because I quite enjoyed them!

I'd like to hear LOTS more about your fascinating career. Mostly, these
groups consist of lots of comics fans, readers and collectors, but scant fe=
w
(almost no) working pros in the medium. Thus, I wager it is safe to say tha=
t
we all would like to hear LOTS more. Including some of your experiences,
both bitter and sweet. Also, other pros you have worked with, and what each
was like, in your opinion.




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Hi John,
=20
Thank you for your fascinating, in-depth reply. I have interspersed various=
 comments below in reply to that. Each is preceded by asterisks to make it =
easier for your eyes to pick them out. Please read right to the bottom! See=
 below, thanks!   -Phil

John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:

In late 1987, Charlton Comics was selling off the rights to all its comic
books. By then, most of the "good stuff" had already been sold. What was
left were series and genres (war, romance, western and horror) that had
little appeal to modern American comic book fans=8Bmost of whom were only
interested in superhero comics. Despite that, I had a vague idea that it
might be possible to do something with the Charlton material.

*****I did know, John, that Charlton sold off their characters and series t=
itles, "piecemeal" from the professional fan press. In fact, one publisher =
in Canada, called ACG, bought some, and published many short-lived titles a=
s black & white reprints with colour covers as several mini-series. Unfortu=
nately,they were frequently quite careless, and many of these were printed =
with no attention to detail, with pages out of order, and even missing page=
s. In 3 or 4 of their issues, the final pages were missing, leaving the rea=
der hanging! Worse, I would buy the following issue #, with a new cover fro=
m this Canuck reprint ACG company, and open it up, only to find it was a re=
-packaged PREVIOUS ISSUE, with the same pages and ending missing again!!  -=
Phil

In other words, say, issue #5, for example of this Canadian ACG Charlton re=
print title (The Shadow newspaper reprint title) had all these pages and th=
e ending missing! I buy issue #6 NUMBERED AS #6, with a new cover, open it =
up and it is the exact same incomplete #5 that I had bought previously! So =
they suckered me twice with the same incomplete contents of the very same i=
ncomplete comic book! That was when I stopped buying ACG's-!!! -Phil

To those reading: none of this has anything whatsoever to do with John's co=
mpany nor Last Kiss. He was not the publisher nor in any way affiliated wit=
h ACG. -Phil

The above is simply stating my experience with the Canadian Charlton reprin=
t company, ACG. There is no connection there. Oh, and by the way---I am a C=
anadian! -Phil

---------------------------------------------

For $400 I bought all rights to First Kiss - a 40-issue romance series
published from 1957 to 1965. I took a gamble and bought the series sight
unseen. It was the series with the most issues for the least amount of
money. And I pretty much got what I paid for - schlock!

Oh, it had some good art too - stuff by Dick Giordano, Vince Colletta, Jon
D=B9Agostino and others. But Charlton paid the lowest rates in comic books =
to
its creators and to make a living artists and writers had to churn out
stories very quickly. Speed was more important than quality.

And so, despite editor Pat Masulli=B9s pledge to readers on the first page =
of
the series, First Kiss fell far short of being "the finest of the magazines
dealing with affairs of the heart." Instead, it was often shoddy and almost
always quirky. Some stories (notably "Campus Crush" the first story in the
first issue of First Kiss) don=B9t make much sense. Despite the now-quaint,
1950=B9s morality of these stories, there=B9s a nightmarish quality to many=
 of
them. Primary First Kiss writer Joe Gill was working much too fast to worry
much about keeping characters consistent and logical. Anything can happen i=
n
First Kiss stories.

I guess that=B9s why I find them so entertaining.

That=B9s the end of the quote from the web site. To that, I can add that I=
=B9ve
had encounters or exchanged correspondence with several former Charlton
staffs=8BNicola Cuti, Dick Giordano, Joe Gill, and Joe Staton=8Band I=B9ve =
been
surprised and encouraged that they=B9ve all had favorable reactions to LAST
KISS. I interview Gill for the first issue of the comic book and found him
to be...well, colorful and crusty. How colorful? Enough that I couldn=B9t
print parts of the interview. I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Gill.

Dick Giordano is one of the nicest pros in the business.=20

***I have always had that impression about Dick Giordano. But then again, t=
hat is because everyone who meets him comes away with that impression. As t=
he saying goes, "50 million Frenchmen cannot be wrong!" Or, something like =
that, anyway...

Even though I
couldn=B9t afford to pay him anything close to his regular rates, he kindly
drew a new story from a script I sent to him. (I=B9ve used a bit of new
artwork in the last three issues.) That story, =B3Widow Ms. Muffet,=B2 is t=
he
story of a little girl who wants to grow up and be a rich widow. Also in
issue #2 is an interview with Dick, plus some of Dick=B9s old romance stori=
es
that I=B9ve re-dialogued as humor pieces. Issue #2 is probably my favorite
issue.

***Just to clarify, John, this newly-drawn Dick Giordano story is in Last K=
iss #2??        ---Phil

---------------------------------------------

I won=B9t go through an issue-by-issue description of the series, but I wil=
l
note that one unusual aspect of LAST KISS is the writing contest. In each
issue, I give readers a chance to re-write an old Charlton story (usually a
one-pager.) I print the best entries in the next issue.

Yes, I really do take the old stories, scan in the artwork, digitally remov=
e
the text and replace it with new text that I=B9ve written. Sometimes, there=
=B9s
a =B3blank space=B2 from where I=B9ve removed a word balloon and I have to =
draw in
a bit of background. (Or even a part of a head!) But I certainly don=B9t
consider myself to be an artist. I=B9m a writer who just noodles a bit to f=
ill
in those (luckily for me) simple backgrounds.

Sometimes, I=B9ll re-write a story with all the panels in order. Other time=
s
I=B9ll juggle the panels around or even bring in panels from other stories =
to
make the story work. (Whenever possible I try to use art by the same artist
in the story.) I=B9ve begun using some public domain artwork besides Charlt=
on
(most prominently in LAST KISS #4) and I=B9m going to be playing around wit=
h
this even more in future issues. The Charlton material, however, is likely
to remain the foundation of my work.

The artist who probably drew the most art for the original FIRST KISS serie=
s
(and therefore the artist whose work I use the most) is Vince Colletta.
Colletta=B9s work is often referred to in disgust by artists today because =
as
an inker he was often called on to work very quickly and as a result,
Colletta sometimes left out a lot of the detail put in by the penciller.
There were definitely times when he just hacked out the work and it shows.
When he felt like it (and had time), though, he could be really good. His
women could be gorgeous.

******John,It is true that most of us who read the professional fan press m=
agazines EG: Comic Book Artist and many other magazines, hear a lot of bad =
stuff about Vince Colletta. Namely, that he seemed to have little or no res=
pect for numerous other artists he inked. That he would often erase (!!!!) =
vast parts of backgrounds of the most highly-regarded artists he was inking=
, meaning erasing pencils, so that he would have far less to ink-! Therefor=
e, many top-notch artists were furious with him, and have over the years sa=
id so in interviews, many, many times. I've read this from numerous pencile=
rs and artists about Vince, and never this type of complaint have I read ab=
out any other artist nor embellisher/-inker. Bottom line: those interviews =
read like Mr. Colletta had some talent (in fact I have seen some very nice =
stuff from Colletta!!!), but readers reading these interviews get the impre=
ssion that he A) doesn't respect the "greats" he has inked, and that B) the=
 man is lazy. I mean,
 can you imagine a Vince Colletta erasing Jack Kirby pencils or backgrounds=
!!!?! The very thought horrifies me! ---Phil

****This reminds me of an occasion where comics artist Tom Sutton was being=
 interviewed for Comic Book Artist # 12. It has NOTHING to do with Vince Co=
lletta, but the passage DOES remind me of my comment above of him erasing p=
encils so he would have less to ink.

I have to tell you this story as it made me laugh uproariously ("Hey, is th=
at a word?!?")---at the time! On page 66 of that CBA #12 issue, in the Tom =
Sutton issue, it goes like this:=20

It has to do with Sutton meeting Stan Lee for the first time in the Marvel =
offices to procure some work, and seeing some Kirby pages while there, on S=
tan's desk:=20

Sutton: "Stan would say, Fix this up a little bit here, and you can white t=
his out here." There would be all these tables, and there'd be a giant pile=
 of Kirby pages, and I'm trying to pay attention to this man, (what Stan is=
 saying to Sutton), but I'd never seen Kirby in all-pencil before."

CBA: And they're right there! [laughs]

Tom: Right there! "Oh, My God, what miserable son of a bitch is gonna f*ck =
this up?!?" [laughter]  ---Phil quoting Tom Sutton from CBA #12

---------------------------------------------
Let=B9s see...what else can I tell you? The first four issues of LAST KISS
were all published by Shanda Fantasy Arts and each one was 48 pages long an=
d
cost $4.99. Unless something happens to change my mind, I=B9ll be
self-publishing the series myself=8Bstarting in early 2004. One of the main
reasons for that is so I can change the format=8Bgoing to a smaller page
count, coming out more often and charging less per issue.

****These sound pretty interesting to me, John! Can Last Kiss issues be ord=
ered from the website? I heard that #1 was sold out but there IS A SOURCE f=
or #1-? Can you tell me a wee bit about that? Also, are they available in c=
omics specialty stores?=20

=20

Thanks John for your great reply!

=20

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada

---------------------------------------------



As to my Disney work, well I=B9m a little reluctant to get into that here i=
n
any detail. It seems too of topic to me. If anyone has an specific
questions, though, I=B9ll be happy to try and answer them.

--John Lustig
john@lastkisscomics.com
www.lastkisscomics.com

Phil Latter wrote:
You are far too modest, John. I am fascinated, and I bet we all are. I have
collected comics for 35+ years but I have not heard of Last Kiss. Can you
tell me more about it? I heard that they are reprints of Charlton Love
comics, with the story completely rewritten around the existing, old art to
make them over into humour stories. Sounds hilarious. Is this true?

I have never been a "funny animal" comics fan, BUT I still buy the Gladston=
e
Mickey Mouse reprints for quite awhile. Especially the early "black pie-eye
stories", as a break from superhero fare, and because I quite enjoyed them!

I'd like to hear LOTS more about your fascinating career. Mostly, these
groups consist of lots of comics fans, readers and collectors, but scant fe=
w
(almost no) working pros in the medium. Thus, I wager it is safe to say tha=
t
we all would like to hear LOTS more. Including some of your experiences,
both bitter and sweet. Also, other pros you have worked with, and what each
was like, in your opinion.




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I forgot to mention. I checked with my publisher and he still does have
about 20 copies left of LAST KISS #1. Make out a check or money order for
$10.50 to: Shanda Fantasy Arts

You can send it to:

Shanda  Fantasy Arts
P.O. Box 545
Greenbrier, AR 72058

Or e-mail Mike Curtis at shandafa@cyberback.com

Mike is also the publisher of the new Atomic Mouse=8Bwhich many years ago w=
as
published by Charlton.

Sorry if this all sounds like a giant commercial. The truth is that I don=
=B9t
receive a penny of the money when you=B9re buying directly from the publish=
er.
But I don=B9t have any copies of #1 and Shanda does.

Oh, and thanks to both Dean and Allen for the kind words about Last Kiss in
previous e-mails.

--John Lustig
www.lastkisscomics.com


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One last thing we forgot to mention, John:
=20
I am at Kendra's flat in Windsor Nova Scotia at the present time. She would=
 like to know if there were any female artists throughout  the original Cha=
rlton run of Last Kiss in the 1960's. She does collect romance comics. I my=
self don't but collect particular comics for artists at time. EG: Giordano.
=20
Thanks.
=20
Phil L, Kendra S.

kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hi John,

Thank you for your fascinating, in-depth reply. I have interspersed various=
 comments below in reply to that. Each is preceded by asterisks to make it =
easier for your eyes to pick them out. Please read right to the bottom! See=
 below, thanks! -Phil

John Lustig wrote:

In late 1987, Charlton Comics was selling off the rights to all its comic
books. By then, most of the "good stuff" had already been sold. What was
left were series and genres (war, romance, western and horror) that had
little appeal to modern American comic book fans=8Bmost of whom were only
interested in superhero comics. Despite that, I had a vague idea that it
might be possible to do something with the Charlton material.

*****I did know, John, that Charlton sold off their characters and series t=
itles, "piecemeal" from the professional fan press. In fact, one publisher =
in Canada, called ACG, bought some, and published many short-lived titles a=
s black & white reprints with colour covers as several mini-series. Unfortu=
nately,they were frequently quite careless, and many of these were printed =
with no attention to detail, with pages out of order, and even missing page=
s. In 3 or 4 of their issues, the final pages were missing, leaving the rea=
der hanging! Worse, I would buy the following issue #, with a new cover fro=
m this Canuck reprint ACG company, and open it up, only to find it was a re=
-packaged PREVIOUS ISSUE, with the same pages and ending missing again!! -P=
hil

In other words, say, issue #5, for example of this Canadian ACG Charlton re=
print title (The Shadow newspaper reprint title) had all these pages and th=
e ending missing! I buy issue #6 NUMBERED AS #6, with a new cover, open it =
up and it is the exact same incomplete #5 that I had bought previously! So =
they suckered me twice with the same incomplete contents of the very same i=
ncomplete comic book! That was when I stopped buying ACG's-!!! -Phil

To those reading: none of this has anything whatsoever to do with John's co=
mpany nor Last Kiss. He was not the publisher nor in any way affiliated wit=
h ACG. -Phil

The above is simply stating my experience with the Canadian Charlton reprin=
t company, ACG. There is no connection there. Oh, and by the way---I am a C=
anadian! -Phil

---------------------------------------------

For $400 I bought all rights to First Kiss - a 40-issue romance series
published from 1957 to 1965. I took a gamble and bought the series sight
unseen. It was the series with the most issues for the least amount of
money. And I pretty much got what I paid for - schlock!

Oh, it had some good art too - stuff by Dick Giordano, Vince Colletta, Jon
D=B9Agostino and others. But Charlton paid the lowest rates in comic books =
to
its creators and to make a living artists and writers had to churn out
stories very quickly. Speed was more important than quality.

And so, despite editor Pat Masulli=B9s pledge to readers on the first page =
of
the series, First Kiss fell far short of being "the finest of the magazines
dealing with affairs of the heart." Instead, it was often shoddy and almost
always quirky. Some stories (notably "Campus Crush" the first story in the
first issue of First Kiss) don=B9t make much sense. Despite the now-quaint,
1950=B9s morality of these stories, there=B9s a nightmarish quality to many=
 of
them. Primary First Kiss writer Joe Gill was working much too fast to worry
much about keeping characters consistent and logical. Anything can happen i=
n
First Kiss stories.

I guess that=B9s why I find them so entertaining.

That=B9s the end of the quote from the web site. To that, I can add that I=
=B9ve
had encounters or exchanged correspondence with several former Charlton
staffs=8BNicola Cuti, Dick Giordano, Joe Gill, and Joe Staton=8Band I=B9ve =
been
surprised and encouraged that they=B9ve all had favorable reactions to LAST
KISS. I interview Gill for the first issue of the comic book and found him
to be...well, colorful and crusty. How colorful? Enough that I couldn=B9t
print parts of the interview. I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Gill.

Dick Giordano is one of the nicest pros in the business.=20

***I have always had that impression about Dick Giordano. But then again, t=
hat is because everyone who meets him comes away with that impression. As t=
he saying goes, "50 million Frenchmen cannot be wrong!" Or, something like =
that, anyway...

Even though I
couldn=B9t afford to pay him anything close to his regular rates, he kindly
drew a new story from a script I sent to him. (I=B9ve used a bit of new
artwork in the last three issues.) That story, =B3Widow Ms. Muffet,=B2 is t=
he
story of a little girl who wants to grow up and be a rich widow. Also in
issue #2 is an interview with Dick, plus some of Dick=B9s old romance stori=
es
that I=B9ve re-dialogued as humor pieces. Issue #2 is probably my favorite
issue.

***Just to clarify, John, this newly-drawn Dick Giordano story is in Last K=
iss #2?? ---Phil

---------------------------------------------

I won=B9t go through an issue-by-issue description of the series, but I wil=
l
note that one unusual aspect of LAST KISS is the writing contest. In each
issue, I give readers a chance to re-write an old Charlton story (usually a
one-pager.) I print the best entries in the next issue.

Yes, I really do take the old stories, scan in the artwork, digitally remov=
e
the text and replace it with new text that I=B9ve written. Sometimes, there=
=B9s
a =B3blank space=B2 from where I=B9ve removed a word balloon and I have to =
draw in
a bit of background. (Or even a part of a head!) But I certainly don=B9t
consider myself to be an artist. I=B9m a writer who just noodles a bit to f=
ill
in those (luckily for me) simple backgrounds.

Sometimes, I=B9ll re-write a story with all the panels in order. Other time=
s
I=B9ll juggle the panels around or even bring in panels from other stories =
to
make the story work. (Whenever possible I try to use art by the same artist
in the story.) I=B9ve begun using some public domain artwork besides Charlt=
on
(most prominently in LAST KISS #4) and I=B9m going to be playing around wit=
h
this even more in future issues. The Charlton material, however, is likely
to remain the foundation of my work.

The artist who probably drew the most art for the original FIRST KISS serie=
s
(and therefore the artist whose work I use the most) is Vince Colletta.
Colletta=B9s work is often referred to in disgust by artists today because =
as
an inker he was often called on to work very quickly and as a result,
Colletta sometimes left out a lot of the detail put in by the penciller.
There were definitely times when he just hacked out the work and it shows.
When he felt like it (and had time), though, he could be really good. His
women could be gorgeous.

******John,It is true that most of us who read the professional fan press m=
agazines EG: Comic Book Artist and many other magazines, hear a lot of bad =
stuff about Vince Colletta. Namely, that he seemed to have little or no res=
pect for numerous other artists he inked. That he would often erase (!!!!) =
vast parts of backgrounds of the most highly-regarded artists he was inking=
, meaning erasing pencils, so that he would have far less to ink-! Therefor=
e, many top-notch artists were furious with him, and have over the years sa=
id so in interviews, many, many times. I've read this from numerous pencile=
rs and artists about Vince, and never this type of complaint have I read ab=
out any other artist nor embellisher/-inker. Bottom line: those interviews =
read like Mr. Colletta had some talent (in fact I have seen some very nice =
stuff from Colletta!!!), but readers reading these interviews get the impre=
ssion that he A) doesn't respect the "greats" he has inked, and that B) the=
 man is lazy. I mean,
can you imagine a Vince Colletta erasing Jack Kirby pencils or backgrounds!=
!!?! The very thought horrifies me! ---Phil

****This reminds me of an occasion where comics artist Tom Sutton was being=
 interviewed for Comic Book Artist # 12. It has NOTHING to do with Vince Co=
lletta, but the passage DOES remind me of my comment above of him erasing p=
encils so he would have less to ink.

I have to tell you this story as it made me laugh uproariously ("Hey, is th=
at a word?!?")---at the time! On page 66 of that CBA #12 issue, in the Tom =
Sutton issue, it goes like this:=20

It has to do with Sutton meeting Stan Lee for the first time in the Marvel =
offices to procure some work, and seeing some Kirby pages while there, on S=
tan's desk:=20

Sutton: "Stan would say, Fix this up a little bit here, and you can white t=
his out here." There would be all these tables, and there'd be a giant pile=
 of Kirby pages, and I'm trying to pay attention to this man, (what Stan is=
 saying to Sutton), but I'd never seen Kirby in all-pencil before."

CBA: And they're right there! [laughs]

Tom: Right there! "Oh, My God, what miserable son of a bitch is gonna f*ck =
this up?!?" [laughter] ---Phil quoting Tom Sutton from CBA #12

---------------------------------------------
Let=B9s see...what else can I tell you? The first four issues of LAST KISS
were all published by Shanda Fantasy Arts and each one was 48 pages long an=
d
cost $4.99. Unless something happens to change my mind, I=B9ll be
self-publishing the series myself=8Bstarting in early 2004. One of the main
reasons for that is so I can change the format=8Bgoing to a smaller page
count, coming out more often and charging less per issue.

****These sound pretty interesting to me, John! Can Last Kiss issues be ord=
ered from the website? I heard that #1 was sold out but there IS A SOURCE f=
or #1-? Can you tell me a wee bit about that? Also, are they available in c=
omics specialty stores?=20



Thanks John for your great reply!



Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada

---------------------------------------------



As to my Disney work, well I=B9m a little reluctant to get into that here i=
n
any detail. It seems too of topic to me. If anyone has an specific
questions, though, I=B9ll be happy to try and answer them.

--John Lustig
john@lastkisscomics.com
www.lastkisscomics.com

Phil Latter wrote:
You are far too modest, John. I am fascinated, and I bet we all are. I have
collected comics for 35+ years but I have not heard of Last Kiss. Can you
tell me more about it? I heard that they are reprints of Charlton Love
comics, with the story completely rewritten around the existing, old art to
make them over into humour stories. Sounds hilarious. Is this true?

I have never been a "funny animal" comics fan, BUT I still buy the Gladston=
e
Mickey Mouse reprints for quite awhile. Especially the early "black pie-eye
stories", as a break from superhero fare, and because I quite enjoyed them!

I'd like to hear LOTS more about your fascinating career. Mostly, these
groups consist of lots of comics fans, readers and collectors, but scant fe=
w
(almost no) working pros in the medium. Thus, I wager it is safe to say tha=
t
we all would like to hear LOTS more. Including some of your experiences,
both bitter and sweet. Also, other pros you have worked with, and what each
was like, in your opinion.




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> I am at Kendra's flat in Windsor Nova Scotia at the present time. She would
> like to know if there were any female artists throughout  the original
> Charlton run of Last Kiss in the 1960's. She does collect romance comics. I
> myself don't but collect particular comics for artists at time. EG: Giordano.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Phil L, Kendra S.

The original series was called FIRST KISS. I changed the name a bit and made
it LAST KISS. (I realize you might have just typed it too quickly and known
the difference. The truth is that even I have occasionally called my series
FIRST KISS.) Since the subject's new here, I just wanted to point out the
difference.

As to a woman artist doing any FIRST KISS stories--I doubt it. Dick Giordano
kindly went through the series and identified (as much as he could remember
or figure out) as to who drew which story. However, there were a few stories
that he couldn't attach a credit to.

It is possible--although it seems unlikely to me--that one of the unnamed
artists could have been a woman...possibly a freelancer that Dick wasn't
familiar with. 

Of course, more and more women are coming to light as artists in the 1050's
and before. So anything's possible. If Kendra's interested in women comic
book artists, she might want to pick up (and probably already has) Trina
Robbin's book, "The Great Women Cartoonists."

As far as romance comics go, I'm only really familiar (slightly) with one
woman--Dorothy Woolfolk. She wasn't an artist (I don't think), but she was
an editor (and I think a writer) for some of DC's romance comics.

--John Lustig
Www.lastkisscomics.com 


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...J To Tha Loww And Ben in " Gigli " ??????? I saw it , 
today !!!!!!!


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>>...J To Tha Loww And Ben in " Gigli " ??????? I saw it ,
>>today !!!!!!!

Was there more to this letter? This is all I received and it doesn=B9t make
any sense to me.
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Thanks for the info on Last Kiss #1 issues. I appreciate it.

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We're from South Carolina.  My wife likes Wonder Woman, I prefer Hal Jordan era Green Lantern, Justice League, E-Man, Avengers, that sort of thing.  About dressing like a super hero, I did dress as a Midevil Green Lantern at the Ohio and Minessota Ren. Fest.  It was a popular costume for me.  A lot of people recognized me.
 
Rome

kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hiya back Rome & Shelley!

Whereabouts are you folks? Hmm? What kind'a comics do you like? Me? All kinds. Except Archie's & stuff like that. I know this is a Charlton group Shelley but...can ya imagine you or I, if we were superheroes, dressing like Wonder Woman? Not!

I'd fall out of my top! And that's not cuz God didn't bless me! LOL

I like The Phantom a lot & I liked the movie.

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Rome,
 
Medeival Green Lantern? Like the one in the DC Elseworlds series? Was your costume based on that? Sounds kind of neat! Did your wife wear a costume too?
 
Kendra

Rome and Shelly Maynard <romeandshelly@yahoo.com> wrote:
We're from South Carolina.  My wife likes Wonder Woman, I prefer Hal Jordan era Green Lantern, Justice League, E-Man, Avengers, that sort of thing.  About dressing like a super hero, I did dress as a Midevil Green Lantern at the Ohio and Minessota Ren. Fest.  It was a popular costume for me.  A lot of people recognized me.

Rome

kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Hiya back Rome & Shelley!

Whereabouts are you folks? Hmm? What kind'a comics do you like? Me? All kinds. Except Archie's & stuff like that. I know this is a Charlton group Shelley but...can ya imagine you or I, if we were superheroes, dressing like Wonder Woman? Not!

I'd fall out of my top! And that's not cuz God didn't bless me! LOL

I like The Phantom a lot & I liked the movie.

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Hi John,
 
I wanted to respond to that. I have heard that name before, Dorothy Woolfolk. Probably in a magazine interview about comics. I do have Women in the comics. I know of Trina Robbins & Marie Severin. Not as famous as her big brother John, though. I thought I read Dorothy Woolfolk was an artist & writer? Of course I may be misremembering that.
 
Thanks!
 
Kendra


John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:
> I am at Kendra's flat in Windsor Nova Scotia at the present time. She would
> like to know if there were any female artists throughout  the original
> Charlton run of Last Kiss in the 1960's. She does collect romance comics. I
> myself don't but collect particular comics for artists at time. EG: Giordano.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Phil L, Kendra S.

The original series was called FIRST KISS. I changed the name a bit and made
it LAST KISS. (I realize you might have just typed it too quickly and known
the difference. The truth is that even I have occasionally called my series
FIRST KISS.) Since the subject's new here, I just wanted to point out the
difference.

As to a woman artist doing any FIRST KISS stories--I doubt it. Dick Giordano
kindly went through the series and identified (as much as he could remember
or figure out) as to who drew which story. However, there were a few stories
that he couldn't attach a credit to.

It is possible--although it seems unlikely to me--that one of the unnamed
artists could have been a woman...possibly a freelancer that Dick wasn't
familiar with. 

Of course, more and more women are coming to light as artists in the 1050's
and before. So anything's possible. If Kendra's interested in women comic
book artists, she might want to pick up (and probably already has) Trina
Robbin's book, "The Great Women Cartoonists."

As far as romance comics go, I'm only really familiar (slightly) with one
woman--Dorothy Woolfolk. She wasn't an artist (I don't think), but she was
an editor (and I think a writer) for some of DC's romance comics.

--John Lustig
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No , I just wanted to BS/joke about having seen B-L To Tha New=20
Lowe's cinematic masterpiece , and , since the movie was technically=20
a " romance "...Albeit rushed ,  the message was complete-as-is...---
 In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Lustig <john@l...> wrote:
> >>...J To Tha Loww And Ben in " Gigli " ??????? I saw it ,
> >>today !!!!!!!
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> any sense to me.
> --John Lustig
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--- In Ch






...Dorothy Woolfolk was --- in comics --- primarily an editor , I 
believe , primarily at DC - off & on - & primarily --- assigned by 
the bosses ? --- on romance comics .
  The name came from a short-rum hitching to " real " SF writer - 
and GA comics ink-stained wretch - William Woolfolk .

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, kendra stewart <wonkas2003@y...> 
wrote:
> Hi John,
>  
> I wanted to respond to that. I have heard that name before, 
Dorothy Woolfolk. Probably in a magazine interview about comics. I 
do have Women in the comics. I know of Trina Robbins & Marie 
Severin. Not as famous as her big brother John, though. I thought I 
read Dorothy Woolfolk was an artist & writer? Of course I may be 
misremembering that.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Kendra
> 
> 
> John Lustig <john@l...> wrote:
> > I am at Kendra's flat in Windsor Nova Scotia at the present 
time. She would
> > like to know if there were any female artists throughout  the 
original
> > Charlton run of Last Kiss in the 1960's. She does collect 
romance comics. I
> > myself don't but collect particular comics for artists at time. 
EG: Giordano.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Phil L, Kendra S.
> 
> The original series was called FIRST KISS. I changed the name a 
bit and made
> it LAST KISS. (I realize you might have just typed it too quickly 
and known
> the difference. The truth is that even I have occasionally called 
my series
> FIRST KISS.) Since the subject's new here, I just wanted to point 
out the
> difference.
> 
> As to a woman artist doing any FIRST KISS stories--I doubt it. 
Dick Giordano
> kindly went through the series and identified (as much as he could 
remember
> or figure out) as to who drew which story. However, there were a 
few stories
> that he couldn't attach a credit to.
> 
> It is possible--although it seems unlikely to me--that one of the 
unnamed
> artists could have been a woman...possibly a freelancer that Dick 
wasn't
> familiar with. 
> 
> Of course, more and more women are coming to light as artists in 
the 1050's
> and before. So anything's possible. If Kendra's interested in 
women comic
> book artists, she might want to pick up (and probably already has) 
Trina
> Robbin's book, "The Great Women Cartoonists."
> 
> As far as romance comics go, I'm only really familiar (slightly) 
with one
> woman--Dorothy Woolfolk. She wasn't an artist (I don't think), but 
she was
> an editor (and I think a writer) for some of DC's romance comics.
> 
> --John Lustig
> Www.lastkisscomics.com 
> 
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Well, I=B9m pretty much going by memory myself. I know she was an editor at
DC. I thought I heard that she was also a writer, but I=B9m none too sure
about that last part.
--John

Kendra wrote:
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Phil Latter wrote:
> 
> *****I did know, John, that Charlton sold off their characters and series
> titles, "piecemeal" from the professional fan press. In fact, one publisher in
> Canada, called ACG, bought some, and published many short-lived titles as
> black & white reprints with colour covers as several mini-series.
> Unfortunately,they were frequently quite careless, and many of these were
> printed with no attention to detail, with pages out of order, and even missing
> pages. In 3 or 4 of their issues, the final pages were missing, leaving the
> reader hanging! Worse, I would buy the following issue #, with a new cover
> from this Canuck reprint ACG company, and open it up, only to find it was a
> re-packaged PREVIOUS ISSUE, with the same pages and ending missing again!!
> -Phil

The publisher you're talking about is Roger Broughton. Last year he
announced that he was going to start publishing under the name "Charlton."
Whether he ever has or not, I don't know. In general, his publications have
been panned for poor production values. The last thing I saw of his,
however, actually looked okay. Hopefully he's taking more care with his
publications now. Has anyone seen anything he's published in the last few
months? How did it look? Just curious.


> 
> ***Just to clarify, John, this newly-drawn Dick Giordano story is in Last Kiss
> #2??        ---Phil
> 
Yes.

> 
> ******Bottom line: those interviews read like
> Mr. Colletta had some talent (in fact I have seen some very nice stuff from
> Colletta!!!), but readers reading these interviews get the impression that he
> A) doesn't respect the "greats" he has inked, and that B) the man is lazy. I
> mean,
> can you imagine a Vince Colletta erasing Jack Kirby pencils or
> backgrounds!!!?! The very thought horrifies me! ---Phil
> 
I've heard those stories and I assume they're true. Which makes it all the
more regrettable since Colletta could really draw well when motivated and he
had the time.
> 
> ****These sound pretty interesting to me, John! Can Last Kiss issues be
> ordered from the website?

Yes, ordering info is on the web site. Unfortunately, I still don't have a
shopping cart set up. Right now, payment is either through Paypal or via
check or money order.

--John Lustig
Www.lastkisscomics.com


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ACG/Broughton got out one issue under the Charlton name...Summer 
Love. This is a good package relative to the other ACG material. The 
paper stock is great, and the reprinting is well done in B&W. It was 
a good package, but I've seen nothing else. 

It's a pity that so much of the Charlton material is tied up by this 
guy. The packages he prints are better than nothing, but as has been 
pointed out the books leave a lot to be desired. 

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Only to Waltsland.
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Smile
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Phil
Canada

John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:
>>...J To Tha Loww And Ben in " Gigli " ??????? I saw it ,
>>today !!!!!!!

Was there more to this letter? This is all I received and it doesn=B9t make
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FUTURE COMICS announced today that it is going to stop publishing monthly 
titles and switch to trade paperbacks. This move takes effect after the August 
cover date issues. 

Press Release Future Comics has announced that they will be concentrating 
their efforts on creating mass market trades and will cease publication of their 
regular monthly titles. This new initiative will be effective after the August 
cover dated books.

When asked about the radical move, President and Editor-In-Chief Bob Layton 
stated, "It has become rather obvious that consumer tastes are gravitating 
towards the trade paperback format. While the direct market continues to decline, 
mass market interest in the genre is on the increase. We've prided ourselves 
on breaking new ground, whether it's self-distribution, returnability or, in 
this case, creating material exclusively for the mass market. Europe and Japan 
have embraced this format for decades and statistics clearly show that the U.S. 
is heading in the same direction. In the last year, revenues from the mass 
market has eclipsed that of the entire direct market with a 30% growth projected 
for 2004. And as an independent publisher, Future Comics is in a more 
advantageous position for making a major shift in its business plan than are the 
larger, publicly-owned companies. Our test marketing with mass market bookstores 
has been very successful. That, and the skyrocketing costs of producing the 22 
page monthly format, makes this move a "no-brainer".

Future plans to release all-new trades in a variety of formats, from digests 
to graphic novels, beginning in October 2003. Additionally, there will be a 
line of trade books directly tied into Future's licensing, movie and television 
deals.

Since Future Comics will be producing new material for their mass market 
trades, they have promised to honor all subscriptions as soon as the new material 
begins to hit the bookstores, by providing either those new publications or 
refunds to their customers.

Layton added, "We're not entirely washing our hands of the direct market. 
There will be several special projects that will be published in the traditional 
comics format and distributed through the normal direct market channels, 
starting in February. Distributors and retailers are welcome to order all of our 
products (mass or direct) from us. All we're doing is shifting the company's 
focus away from the monthly, 22 page package."



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--- In CharltonBul( Only having skimmed that but having read the gist 
elsewhere: ) I can't help thinking that , for a company that , 
presumably , is on the financial margin ( I've read of them , but , I 
don't believe I have EVER seen any of their comics ! ) it's a can't-
hurt " sound all modern and up to date " announcement that , yes , 
could get them - maybe - some favorable attention from outside 
investors - And , remove themn from a marketplace where they're at a 
disadvanage .
  Yeah , SUURREEEE they have " liscencing , movie and television 
deals " 








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> 
> FUTURE COMICS announced today that it is going to stop publishing 
monthly 
> titles and switch to trade paperbacks. This move takes effect after 
the August 
> cover date issues. 
> 
> Press Release Future Comics has announced that they will be 
concentrating 
> their efforts on creating mass market trades and will cease 
publication of their 
> regular monthly titles. This new initiative will be effective after 
the August 
> cover dated books.
> 
> When asked about the radical move, President and Editor-In-Chief 
Bob Layton 
> stated, "It has become rather obvious that consumer tastes are 
gravitating 
> towards the trade paperback format. While the direct market 
continues to decline, 
> mass market interest in the genre is on the increase. We've prided 
ourselves 
> on breaking new ground, whether it's self-distribution, 
returnability or, in 
> this case, creating material exclusively for the mass market. 
Europe and Japan 
> have embraced this format for decades and statistics clearly show 
that the U.S. 
> is heading in the same direction. In the last year, revenues from 
the mass 
> market has eclipsed that of the entire direct market with a 30% 
growth projected 
> for 2004. And as an independent publisher, Future Comics is in a 
more 
> advantageous position for making a major shift in its business plan 
than are the 
> larger, publicly-owned companies. Our test marketing with mass 
market bookstores 
> has been very successful. That, and the skyrocketing costs of 
producing the 22 
> page monthly format, makes this move a "no-brainer".
> 
> Future plans to release all-new trades in a variety of formats, 
from digests 
> to graphic novels, beginning in October 2003. Additionally, there 
will be a 
> line of trade books directly tied into Future's licensing, movie 
and television 
> deals.
> 
> Since Future Comics will be producing new material for their mass 
market 
> trades, they have promised to honor all subscriptions as soon as 
the new material 
> begins to hit the bookstores, by providing either those new 
publications or 
> refunds to their customers.
> 
> Layton added, "We're not entirely washing our hands of the direct 
market. 
> There will be several special projects that will be published in 
the traditional 
> comics format and distributed through the normal direct market 
channels, 
> starting in February. Distributors and retailers are welcome to 
order all of our 
> products (mass or direct) from us. All we're doing is shifting the 
company's 
> focus away from the monthly, 22 page package."
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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I tend to think that this is the beginning of the end for Future Comics.  
Sales in the direct market apparently are so bad that they want to pull out of 
the direct market to try the bookstore market.  But I've yet to see a company 
make a go of it with primarily bookstore sales, unless its one of those 
manga-producing companies, which Future Comics is not.

     Allen Smith


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Big Al,
 
It is a shame I suppose, that Future Comics looks like it is going down the tubes so fast. I have a lot of them. They kind of remind me of the late Valiant Comics. I thought their comics were okay, but certainly nothing great.
 
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The problem with comics now is that everyone thinks that only superstar 
artists are worth following.  Future Comics puts out entertaining, solid stories 
with solid art.  But in today's market, that may not be enough.  I've followed 
them pretty closely.

     Allen Smith


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In regard to Future Comics going to just trade paperbacks and/or graphic
novels, well I think it might be a bit premature to call this the beginning
of the end. The reality is that it=B9s incredibly difficult to survive in t=
he
comic book market=8Bespecially for a small, independent. On the other hand,
graphic novels (from what I hear) are the fastest growing section of the
book market. Ultimately, the goal of most publishers should be to get their
comics into book stores. I=B9ve had people in the comics business urge me t=
o
forego the comics market and concentrate in turning LAST KISS into a series
of books.

I don=B9t want to come off as too much as an optimist, however. The fact th=
at
Future Comics wasn=B9t (I assume) selling incredibly well in the comics mar=
ket
is not a good sign. I have yet to see a single copy in a comic store.
Hopefully, Future will do better in book stores.

--John Lustig
Www.lastkisscomics.com


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Well, I for one intend to keep on buying their books, no matter what form 
they appear in.  I hope they survive, but of course with the current market being 
what it is, they might not.

     Allen Smith


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Allen,
 
Me also. I do have some reservations about these titles, though. I regularly get Death Mask, Freemind and Metallix, but I have never tried Peacekeeper. Can you tell me what that title is about? 
 
I missed Freemind #2 as a result of their odd distribution system.
 
Phil Latter
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Allen,  Phil showed me some of his. Deathmask looks kinda interesting but I think I kinda agree w/- Phil when he says that this character is hard 2 relate to. After all, he kills all these people for petty crimes often. How does 1 relate well 2 a serial killer/-vigilante? DC's the Spectre from Adventure Comix in the 70's---3 of my 4 brothers had some of those back when. I could get into those more. But still & all Deathmask visually looks interesting. But there doesnt seem ta be shown a lot of what motivates the guy. Okay he had an accident and his face is destroyed. Pretty devastating. But to kill all these people? Whats ur take on this? Hmmm?
 
Kendra

bigal4151@aol.com wrote:
The problem with comics now is that everyone thinks that only superstar 
artists are worth following.  Future Comics puts out entertaining, solid stories 
with solid art.  But in today's market, that may not be enough.  I've followed 
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     Allen Smith




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John, I got a bunch of duplicates from Phil of the different titles. I gave=
 him a stack of pulps & in turn he gave me hundreds of comics, includes old=
 ones from the '40's 50's & 60's. He was honest w/-me about how much the pu=
lps were worth & I actually think he overcompensated me. But shows hes hone=
st. Anyhoo I still have tons left. Back to Future Comics, I think I like Me=
tallix best. Phil ordered all his thru Previews so I dont know if they were=
 in stores or not.
=20
Kendra

John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:
In regard to Future Comics going to just trade paperbacks and/or graphic
novels, well I think it might be a bit premature to call this the beginning
of the end. The reality is that it=B9s incredibly difficult to survive in t=
he
comic book market=8Bespecially for a small, independent. On the other hand,
graphic novels (from what I hear) are the fastest growing section of the
book market. Ultimately, the goal of most publishers should be to get their
comics into book stores. I=B9ve had people in the comics business urge me t=
o
forego the comics market and concentrate in turning LAST KISS into a series
of books.

I don=B9t want to come off as too much as an optimist, however. The fact th=
at
Future Comics wasn=B9t (I assume) selling incredibly well in the comics mar=
ket
is not a good sign. I have yet to see a single copy in a comic store.
Hopefully, Future will do better in book stores.

--John Lustig
Www.lastkisscomics.com






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> John, I got a bunch of duplicates from Phil of the different titles. I gave
> him a stack of pulps & in turn he gave me hundreds of comics, includes old
> ones from the '40's 50's & 60's. He was honest w/-me about how much the pulps
> were worth & I actually think he overcompensated me. But shows hes honest.
> Anyhoo I still have tons left. Back to Future Comics, I think I like Metallix
> best. Phil ordered all his thru Previews so I dont know if they were in stores
> or not.
> 
> Kendra

Hi, Kendra. I'm not dying to see the Future Comics--although I'm curious.
(Anything with Giordano artwork is worth taking a look at!) They do,
however, sound a little too superheroish for my tastes. (Not that I hate
superhero comics. I just rarely read them anymore. I'm tired of trying to
keep track of all the continuity--especially when there are crossovers
between titles!) 

I just find it strange that I've never seen any at all in
stores...especially considering the talented pros who are creating those
comics.
--John Lustig
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I've only read the first Deathmask, it seemed to me that very little 
explanation was given about the character except to show his violent side.  Now, with 
a character like the Spectre, this was ok, because the readership knew the 
character and there was a back story.  With Deathmask, there is no backstory as 
yet.

     Allen Smith


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Allan, I agree! Deathmask just seems to be a maniacal serial killer with a fancy costume. I also think that big coat/-cloak thingie would get in the way dont you? I myself t'would like 2 see Metallix go after Deathmask to try to bring the guy to justice for all there here murders. Deathmask is worse than the bad guys I think. Or just as bad as the worse of them I think.
 
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It's likely that Deathmask is Future's Punisher/Spectre character.  But, like 
I say, only having seen the one issue, who knows what direction the comic is 
currently going in.   I hope there are some Future Comics issues in the shops 
Wednesday.

     Allen Smith


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I always enjoyed Ghostly Haunts Ghost Manor as well as the above 
named hosts.  Are there any kindred souls herein ?
John. 



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While I like and read and collect comics, I don't own any of those in particular. However, my brothers used to buy those way back when they were still being published {{{{going back aways}}}} & I fondly remember them. I always like Ditko & Pat Boyette. 
 
Kendra

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You bet! In fact, one of my crowning achievements in collecting was 
acquiring the introduction page for Mr Bones from GM Vol.2 #1. I still look 
at that page fondly every day.
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> acquiring the introduction page for Mr Bones from GM Vol.2 #1. I 
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> at that page fondly every day.
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(from <A HREF=3D"www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic&f=
=3D36&t=3D001284">www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic&f=
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there's a pic of the cover here too!)

Every time The Question shows up, he seems to make a stir. This after noon =
at=20
the Superman Panel at Wizard World Chicago, the Question=E2=80=99s latest a=
nswer was=20
announced: a six issue mini series by Rick Veitch and Tommy Lee Edwards. Th=
e=20
Pulse caught up with Roarin=E2=80=99 Rick for his thought on the enigmatic =
character.=20

Created by Steve Ditko as one of the Charlton heroes back in the '60s, Vic=
=20
Sage was a television reporter by day who wore a flesh colored mask to figh=
t=20
villains in a violent cityscape. With his features reduced to am indistinct=
 blob,=20
The Question was as enigmatic as his name. Sage was brought back by Denny=20
O'Neil and Denys Cowan for a well-regarded run in the '80s. But ironically,=
 The=20
Question's greatest moment was as the inspiration for Rorschach from THE=20
WATCHMEN. Since then, the Question has avoided a full on resurrection=E2=80=
=94until now.=20

The book is part of the revamped world of Metropolis, along with Brian=20
Azzarello and Lee Bermejo's LEX LUTHOR: MAN OF STEEL and Micah Ian Wright a=
nd Carlos=20
D'Anda's VIGILANTE

With a track record of sometimes brutally unconventional takes on superhero=
ic=20
archetypes, Veitch would seem to be the ideal creator to take on one of the=
=20
most philosophical heroes at DC. [Veitch is also the co-owner of THE PULSE.=
]=20

THE PULSE: So Rick, how'd you get involved with THE QUESTION?

VEITCH: It originally came together as part of =E2=80=9CSuperstorm=E2=80=9D=
 a multi-title=20
project from Wildstorm which was a take on certain aspects of the Superman=
=20
mythos. I was already working with Wildstorm on some concepts for a possibl=
e=20
Question series, and I guess Dan DiDio read my treatment and thought that i=
t was=20
perfect to lock into this. Brian Azzarello had a vision of how he'd like to=
=20
handle Lex Luthor and things kind of grew organically out from there. Jim [=
Lee] was=20
able to talk the Superman guys and Dan DiDio into seeing the possibilities =
of=20
allowing Brian to do his edgy version of things.

THE PULSE: So how does it fit in with the revamp of Superman?

VEITCH: To be honest, everything is still really fluid so I'm not sure abou=
t=20
the overall structure. This thing is ongoing and being built brick by brick=
 as=20
we speak. On top of that there seems to be some insane rumor campaign being=
=20
waged by Marvel. I dunno if someone spiked the watercooler over there or wh=
at.=20
But in terms of the upcoming Superman announcements it appears to have=20
backfired. Everyone seems to be watching DC closely.

THE PULSE: So=E2=80=94why the Question?

VEITCH: I'm not sure why they chose me to do The Question -- probably it wa=
s=20
because I was working on GREYSHIRT and they liked what they were seeing. Th=
e=20
thing that attracted me to The Question was the challenge. The Question as=
=20
created by Ditko is one of those great archetypal characters. Unfortunately=
, he's=20
been forever been cast into the shadow of his own knock off, Rorschach, as=
=20
given to us by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons in WATCHMEN. So there's the chal=
lenge:=20
do you just do The Question as Rorschach? I wasn't interested in that. The=
=20
challenge was how can we stay true to the basic character, while still maki=
ng=20
him over the top, in the same sense that Rorschach was, but without copping=
 to=20
Rorschach in any way, shape or form. Luckily, I came up with an idea that I=
=20
thought worked and they thought so too.

THE PULSE: What do you think was Ditko's original intention with THE=20
QUESTION?

VEITCH: Never having had the pleasure of meeting Steve and asking him, I'd=
=20
speculate that he was performing his job as a commercial cartoonist; trying=
 to=20
create an interesting character that resonated with readers. The more extre=
me=20
political views sometimes associated with Ditko were more evident in his=20
underground work; especially MR. A.

THE PULSE: Denny O'Neill and Denys Cowan brought him back in the '80 around=
=20
the same time as the WATCHMEN.

VEITCH: Yeah. In fact I remember one issue where The Question is actually=20
reading WATCHMEN on the airplane. Everyone was so in awe of what Alan and D=
ave=20
were doing, it was affecting everyone's work at the time. There's a great s=
cene=20
in that recent History Channel show on superheroes where Paul Levitz descri=
bes=20
the impact WATCHEMEN had on the creative community.

THE PULSE: Were you a fan of the O'Neil/Cowan version?

VEITCH: Yeah, it was good solid comics, but as I said, The Question was kin=
d=20
of eclipsed by Rorschach, who was so right on the money.

THE PULSE: Who is your Question? Is he the original Ditko version?

VEITCH: Oh yeah. The simple basics are the same; Vic Sage is a reporter for=
 a=20
television station. We're placing him in Chicago as per Ditko's original=20
rather than the '80s version's Hub City. He's a street level vigilante with=
 the=20
faceless face mask and the puff of smoke.

THE PULSE: So how do you make the Question edgy for today? We've seen a lot=
=20
of envelopes pushed in comics over the last decade, so it is quite a challe=
nge.

VEITCH: Without giving too much away, since I don't want to ruin it for=20
everybody, our Question's been at this business of beating up the bad guys =
and=20
walking the mean streets of Chicago for about ten years and the process app=
ears to=20
have driven him kind of bonkers. He appears to believe that he, and he alon=
e,=20
is in an ongoing dialog with the city itself. He relates to Chicago as a=20
living entity that talks to him through details that he sees in the city's=
=20
infrastructure itself. So he might be looking at some paint chipping on the=
 side of a=20
fire hydrant and be reading what he believes is an important message from t=
he=20
living city. As the book opens it appears that he's a complete nut job, but=
=20
as the story develops the question arises: is he crazy or is this really=20
happening? By the end of the first issue he is drawn into Metropolis, where=
 he=20
begins the same sort of dialogue with that city, although Metropolis has a=
=20
different character. The reasons he's been drawn to Metropolis have to do w=
ith its=20
favorite son.

THE PULSE: Aha! So there will be some super stuff!

VEITCH: Could be, yeah.

THE PULSE: GREYSHIRT was in the masked vigilante tradition himself, so this=
=20
is kind of a theme you've worked with before, isn't it?

VEITCH: We all have! [laughs] The masked vigilante walking around beating u=
p=20
bad guys is pretty basic. What I'm doing is positioning The Question on a=20
slightly different level. He relates to his city surroundings like an abori=
gine=20
does the mountain, the tree, the river, the sky. The Question might be term=
ed an=20
urban shaman; although he's quite a violent one.

THE PULSE: What about the supporting cast, Tot and so on?

VEITCH: For this series, we're ignoring all those guys. We're bringing him=
=20
out of Chicago so by the end of the first issue he's going to be the loner =
on=20
the streets of Metropolis. Paul suggested an interesting way to connect him=
 to=20
Superman's supporting cast which works great. The first cover delivers the=
=20
theme perfectly. The Question looking down toward the street, studying the =
gutters=20
while everyone else is looking up at the red and blue streak flashing acros=
s=20
the sky.

THE PULSE: Might this become an ongoing series?

VEITCH: We're starting out with six. The Question doesn't die in the end. I=
=20
hate to spoil it for everybody! [laughs]

THE PULSE: How do you like working with Tommy Lee Edwards?

VEITCH: Oh man, Tommy's a dream to work with. The guy can really, really=20
draw, but more importantly he is a master graphic storyteller. He and I hav=
e spent=20
hours on the phone talking out the story and ways to make it work better an=
d=20
better. He's one of those rare artists who is totally dedicated to the stor=
y=20
itself, rather than just wanting to draw what he feels like. Tommy's a=20
brilliant architectural artist and that's one of the sub-themes we're bring=
ing into=20
these books. Tommy is inking and coloring it himself, too. He's just fantas=
tic.

THE PULSE: You know, a lot of the themes in THE QUESTION sound like stuff=20
you've been exploring throughout your career. You also have a new edition o=
f THE=20
ONE coming out, don't you?

VEITCH: Yeah, I'm self-publishing again. I got King Hell Press back up off=
=20
the slab this spring and republished a BRAT PACK trade paperback, which did=
 very=20
well. I'm putting out a new edition of THE ONE, which should ship in=20
September. I just got the initial orders and they are excellent. The tpb wi=
ll reprint=20
all six issue of the original Epic comic book I did in 1984 with editor Arc=
hie=20
Goodwin.

THE PULSE: For those who weren't around, what was THE ONE?

VEITCH: THE ONE was one of the first revisionist superheroes. It was done=20
right after I'd seen MARVELMAN for the first time, so Alan had awakened me =
to the=20
possibility of pushing superheroes up and out of the rut they were in at th=
e=20
time. For me as a creator, THE ONE was me dealing with the kind of angst we=
=20
were all suffering from over the nuclear stand off when Reagan was in offic=
e.=20
You were still in diapers so you probably don't remember those dark days of=
 the=20
early 1980's?

THE PULSE: Oh, I do, absolutely.

VEITCH: Well, the nuclear dread we were all feeling was spilling over into=
=20
the story itself. At its basic commercial level, THE ONE is trying to push =
the=20
concept of what superheroes could be in a fresh direction. Superheroes were=
 in=20
a pretty boring space in 1984. At a deeper thematic level, THE ONE explores=
 a=20
lot of the mystical and philosophical ideas that interest me. In the story,=
=20
the onrush of nuclear Armageddon causes an evolutionary change in the whole=
=20
human race, moving us up the chain of life.

THE PULSE: So much happened in the story; the Soviet Superman finds love, t=
he=20
human race all turns into hippies, political satire=E2=80=94man, it was com=
plex!

VEITCH: I tried to give it all the basic ingredients, but with a fresh twis=
t.=20
In the first issue, World War Three begins; the missiles start flying and=20
there's this thing called the Big Sleep. Everybody in the world goes into a=
=20
fear-induced trance and none of the nuclear weapons seem to work. When the =
world=20
wakes up, everyone starts slowly but surely evolving into a group mind. All=
 this=20
is played against the backdrop of the superheroes battling; destroying whol=
e=20
cities in the process.

What was really interesting about THE ONE is that there's a panel in the=20
first book which looks exactly like the shot of the airliner hitting the Wo=
rld=20
Trade Center in 2001. You look at the shot and think "Veitch just copped th=
is=20
thing from a photo." But I drew it in 1984.

THE PULSE: I'm fascinated by the fact that people my age and maybe a little=
=20
younger grew up with this incredible sense of doom=E2=80=94and an entire li=
terature=20
based on it=E2=80=94that doesn't exist any more.

VEITCH: The new generation now lives under the same onus. They've seen our=
=20
cities attacked on a massive scale. The idea that someone is willing to wip=
e out=20
whole civilian populations for political reasons has returned. That kind of=
=20
makes the message of THE ONE relevant again.

THE PULSE: Yeah, we only lasted a few years without an overarching enemy to=
=20
hate.

VEITCH: Or to fear. Ahh, it was great while it lasted wasn't it, Heidi?

THE PULSE: Yeah, the Clinton years seem like a wonderful time of sex in the=
=20
White House and prosperity for all. When I re-read THE ONE a while ago, I=20
didn't think it had dated at=E2=80=94it was a comment on themes of the time=
, but it was=20
mostly universal. Was there anything in there that you changed?

VEITCH: No, other than the fact that we tweaked the graphics. There was thi=
s=20
airbrushed pulse effect that we used throughout the book. Like when the Big=
=20
Sleep happened or the ONE starts appearing, there would be a circular pulse=
 that=20
was sort of like the Tide box. I had originally done that with hand=20
airbrushing and hand overlays. I'm now working with designer John Lynd and =
he's redoing=20
all that on the computer. It's airbrushed computerized shading and looks mu=
ch=20
cleaner.

THE PULSE: THE ONE was a very daring work when it came out and it's been an=
=20
underground favorite of many people. But the industry has changed a lot in =
20=20
years. Is it harder to be daring now?

VEITCH: I don't think so. There is too much phony "edginess" that goes on f=
or=20
my tastes. That's probably a criticism that I direct to our whole culture,=
=20
not just comics. Rebellion and "over the top edginess" is cold bloodedly=20
marketed by media companies now. So you can probably say it is more challen=
ging to=20
get to the heart of what comics can really do to push the envelope. And whe=
n=20
you're dealing with a big corporation and layers of editors and publishers,=
 it's=20
a miracle anything gets done. In this case, however, we've authentically go=
t=20
something cool and original with THE QUESTION.

THE PULSE: Getting back to THE QUESTION how do you approach the glowing bal=
l=20
of the Superman mythos?

VEITCH: Obliquely. Superman is a character who's always been so important t=
o=20
the company, its difficult to really get creative. There are a fearsome num=
ber=20
of corporate layers to deal with, not too mention four ongoing titles and=20
creative teams. It's probably as complicated a nut to crack as any in comic=
s.=20
What I did find interesting during some of the meetings we had about this=20
project, was that the new generation of creators were saying the same thing=
s Alan and=20
I and creators of our generation argued for in the 80's. That there are=20
certain lines of logic in Superman's character that must be followed if you=
 are=20
going to get readers to identify with him. I'd have to say the those concep=
ts are=20
getting a much more sympathetic response from today's DC.

Personally, I'm happy playing with the Superman archetype in MAXIMORTAL or =
as=20
Alan Moore and I did in SUPREME. The MAXIMORTAL doesn't pull any punches an=
d=20
some of the stuff with we did in SUPREME was really anarchistic in a Trojan=
=20
Horse sort of way.

THE PULSE: You're following in a rich tradition. Ditko was quite a philosop=
her
=E2=80=94what was his denomination?

VEITCH: Did he have one? "Ditkoism"!

THE PULSE: Yeah, I guess. It seems harder nowadays for mainstream comics to=
=20
have that kind of "crackpot genius" running around. Unless you're one, Rick=
.

VEITCH: I'm a closet crackpot genius.

***************************************

Scott: I'm a little iffy about this - if DC wants a mentally unbalanced=20
Charlton character - why not resurrect Peacemaker (i.e. Peacemaker talked t=
o his=20
helmet and hallucinated his dead father while this new version of the Quest=
ion=20
talks to Chicago)? Obviously Veicht is unfamiliar with O'Neil's series, hen=
ce=20
the absence of Tot, Myra, Izzy, etc. and choosing Chicago rather than Hub C=
ity=20
- which isn't a big deal - but it seems to me he's trying to make the Quest=
ion=20
more like Rorschach and less like Ditko's version of the character. I wasn'=
t=20
too sure about Rucka's interpretation of the Question in HUNTRESS: CRY FOR=
=20
BLOOD, to me it seemed like Vic aged 10 years over night, showing much more=
=20
restraint than he did in the past (not to mention Rucka's continuity screw =
up that=20
Jackie was still alive, after she died in one of the Question specials afte=
r=20
his series got cancelled). I guess this new mini-series would be acceptable=
 if=20
it's explained properly why the character goes back to Ditko's Ayn Rand=20
beliefs where everything is "black & white" as opposed to O'Neil's version =
that=20
everything is "gray". At least it's only 6 issues - any longer and Veicht w=
ould=20
probably abandon it like AQUAMAN. I'll probably pick this up, hell it can't=
 be=20
worse than L.A.W. ... can it?



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Yes indeed, Kendra, those comics were published "way back" in the 
day.  Sigh!  I really wish someone would publish some SIMPLE horror 
along those lines these days...



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I believe I do have a copy of the issue in which one of the hosts was 
introduced, now that I think of it (I'd need to dig deep into the 
collection to find the specifics....)

By the way, if anyone knows:  Did the "imp" character shown on the 
Haunted cover on this group's home page ever have a name and/or 
title ?  I was never able to locate one....

John.



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Hmmmmm. I remember watching Darrin Mcgavin in Kolchak, The Night Stalker on TV, a weekly television show in the 1970's. I was VERY young, then. I used to find it scary as a kid. Now, Moonstone comic group is putting out a series of Kolchak The Night Stalker comic books based on that old TV show. The third issue just came out. Have you seen those? I also rather liked Night Gallery a lot. Now that REALLY scared me. I loved it! Especially the one with Roddy Mcdowell and the paintings...
 
Kendra

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day.  Sigh!  I really wish someone would publish some SIMPLE horror 
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The original Night Stalker is a great, great movie. I try to watch it 
at least once a year. It's incredibly suspensful, and at the time 
presented the novel notion of a vampire in the modern world. Since 
those halcyon days of the early 70's that idea has been done several 
times and often to great effect (Fright Night is a great example). 
But for me, Night Stalker is the classic. Night Strangler is pretty 
good, but doesn't hold up to the first one. Alas the series of 
Kolchack adventures on TV didn't work for me. Carl's crusty 
personality (as done superbly by the incomparable Darren McGavin) was 
largely intact, but the mysteries didn't have the edgey pseudo-
reality of the original TV movies. The Moonstone comic is well done, 
but I haven't picked one up. The book looks just okay to me, and not 
worth the price of admission. Now Moonstone's Phantom books are 
another story entirely. 

Dean


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There are only two episodes of night gallery I
remember watching as a kid.  The first was about the
Astronauts finding giant rats on the moon.  The second
was the Roddy McDowell one, although I don't remember
him being in it.  Great stuff.

Tom

--- kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hmmmmm. I remember watching Darrin Mcgavin in
> Kolchak, The Night Stalker on TV, a weekly
> television show in the 1970's. I was VERY young,
> then. I used to find it scary as a kid. Now,
> Moonstone comic group is putting out a series of
> Kolchak The Night Stalker comic books based on that
> old TV show. The third issue just came out. Have you
> seen those? I also rather liked Night Gallery a lot.
> Now that REALLY scared me. I loved it! Especially
> the one with Roddy Mcdowell and the paintings...
>  
> Kendra
> 
> mmmichmanjohn <mmmichmanjohn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes indeed, Kendra, those comics were published "way
> back" in the 
> day.  Sigh!  I really wish someone would publish
> some SIMPLE horror 
> along those lines these days...
> 
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Tom and Kendra,
 
One Night Gallery episode I remember, in addition to the Roddy Mcdowell one (I actually have this one on tape, in addition to the one about the ex Nazi who visits a museum/ art gallery and sees a painting of the Holocaust victims, with a nazi torturing a Jew....) The nazi keeps coming back to the museum every day, haunted by this painting.
 
An old Jew who also keeps coming back each day to view the painting, who remembers his tormentor from the concentration camp, accuses him of being a war criminal. Eventually, the face of the nazi in the painting changes to that of the Nazi looking AT the painting. When that happens, the real nazi get sucked into the painting. But now the painting has changed slightly. Now the Jew is torturing the nazi. Justice is served! 
 
Another eerie Night Gallery episode I remember is the one where someone goes on vacation, and brings something back -a souvenir resembling a voodoo doll. It comes alive, and tries to kill its owner with a huge butcher knife, chasing its owner through the house! Eventually, the owner grabs it and throws it into the stove, burning it up. Chilling series as a very young man, to watch! I don't remember the one about astronauts watching the rats on the moon, but this was a top-notch series, far more chilling and scary and eerie than Twilight Zone, as good as that was. There was a later series, called Roahl Dahl's Night Gallery, but it wasn't nearly as good. Rod Serling's Night Gallery was marvelous!
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

tom keenan <tomncape@yahoo.com> wrote:
There are only two episodes of night gallery I
remember watching as a kid.  The first was about the
Astronauts finding giant rats on the moon.  The second
was the Roddy McDowell one, although I don't remember
him being in it.  Great stuff.

Tom

--- kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hmmmmm. I remember watching Darrin Mcgavin in
> Kolchak, The Night Stalker on TV, a weekly
> television show in the 1970's. I was VERY young,
> then. I used to find it scary as a kid. Now,
> Moonstone comic group is putting out a series of
> Kolchak The Night Stalker comic books based on that
> old TV show. The third issue just came out. Have you
> seen those? I also rather liked Night Gallery a lot.
> Now that REALLY scared me. I loved it! Especially
> the one with Roddy Mcdowell and the paintings...
>  
> Kendra
> 
> mmmichmanjohn <mmmichmanjohn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes indeed, Kendra, those comics were published "way
> back" in the 
> day.  Sigh!  I really wish someone would publish
> some SIMPLE horror 
> along those lines these days...
> 
> 
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In a message dated 8/15/2003 4:46:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:


> There was a later series, called Roahl Dahl's Night Gallery, but it wasn't 
> nearly as good. Rod Serling's Night Gallery was marvelous!
> 
---------------------------
 That series was Roald Dahl's TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED.
My favorite NIGHT GALLERY is The Messiah On Mott Street, with Edward G. 
Robinson and Yaphet Kotto.
--steve


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Do I remember correctly that there was a Night Gallery episode with 
John Huston telling some boys about a surprise buried out in the 
desert, and when they dig up the box, he pops out and 
yells, "SURPRISE!"?

As a newspaper reporter myself, my favorite part of Kolchak was that 
Carl wasn't an FBI agent, or a detective, he was just an inquisitive 
reporter.

--Eric


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Do I remember correctly that there was a Night Gallery episode 
with 
> John Huston telling some boys about a surprise buried out in the 
> desert, and when they dig up the box, he pops out and 
> yells, "SURPRISE!"?
> 
> As a newspaper reporter myself, my favorite part of Kolchak was 
that 
> Carl wasn't an FBI agent, or a detective, he was just an 
inquisitive 
> reporter.
> 
> --Eric

     Excellent topic. Punky that was John Carredine in Big Suprise.
    
  Others listed" The Doll" with John Williams(the second Mr French 
on Family Affair) with Henry Silva ( Rat Pack alum).

" Escape Route" Richard Kiley ( Man of LaMancha) Sam Jaffe ( The Day 
the Earth Stood Still.

 " The Cemetary" Roddy McDowell( Planet of the Apes) Ossie Davis ( 
Do the Right Thing )

(" Nature of the Enemy") Joseph Campanella(  The Bold Ones)


Here's mine- A QUESTION OF FEAR- LESLIE NIELSEN-FRITZ WEAVER.
 Nielsen is a soldier of fortuen who stays in a haunted house for a 
sum of money but there's something in there with him a scientist who 
was injected with a toxin that changed him into?.

  GREEN FINGERS-CAMERON MITCHEL-ELSA LANCHESTER. Mitchell is a real 
estate tycoon and he wants the old ladys house no matter what. He 
clips off her fingers but before she dies she plants the fingers. 
Mitchell goes back to gloat and hears something- we see a hand 
coming out of the garden. Mitchell walks into the kitchen and there 
she is sitting in a rocking chair all covered with vines. Mitchell 
stumbles out hair turned white saying Green Fingers. creepy.

 SATISFACTION GURANTEED- VICTOR BUONO- Buono dressed to the nines is 
looking for a secretary the women manager shows him three beautiful 
skilled secretarys but he refuses. The manager says that's the best 
we have. Buono sighs and when he's ready to leave a clerk a very 
heavy girl starts to file papers Buono is excited but she is only a 
clerk the manager says. Money is no object he says, the manager 
agrees and asks him where she should go. Buono with a silver knife 
and fork says no problem" I'LL EAT HERE HERE'". YOU GOTTA SEE IT.

  TILL NEXT TIME GANG. I wish Charlton had some of there stories on 
a horror show.


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Speaking of actor Henry Silva,
 
I met him once in 1979. Back then, I was a young teenager working as a busboy in a ground floor restaurant in the Four Seasons Hotel on Avenue Road in Toronto. He came in for lunch. A hispanic older busboy, Carlos by name, told me that someone of Henry Silva's background and culture...would consider it an extreme compliment if we were to both ask Mr. Silva to sign a dollar bill. We both did so. 
 
Unfortunatley, I later forgot, and spent the $1 Always regretted that.
 
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Actually,
 
I stand corrected. You are correct: it was Roald Doahl's Tales of the Unexpected. However his name is spelled...
 
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>      Excellent topic. Punky that was John Carredine in Big Suprise.

I knew it was a John [acting family name here], I debated between 
Huston and Barrymore, but didn't feel satisfied.  I guess that's why.

Does anyone know the Outer Limits-esque comic in which a helmeted 
astronaut helps bring civil rights to a distant planet and removes 
the helmet at the end to reveal that he's black?

--Eric


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In a message dated 8/15/2003 11:16:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> Does anyone know the Outer Limits-esque comic in which a helmeted 
> astronaut helps bring civil rights to a distant planet and removes 
> the helmet at the end to reveal that he's black?
> ----------------------
I know it's an EC, if I recall which one I will post the info.
--steve


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Charlton fans might be interested in checking out this auction for a set of 
five early issues of Space Adventures with Ditko's Captain Atom. 

Space Adventures #36-38, 42,77 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2187066162&category=75&
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Oh god yes, those are 2 of my all time favorite shows as well! :)  I 
managed to tape most of the Night Galleries and a few of the Night 
Stalker episodes from Sci Fi over the years.  

There was just something about the darkened N.G. setting and the way 
Rod Serling would occasionally remark that you "ducked in here to get 
out of the rain" (or words to that effect) that would give me shivers 
as a kid too!

I also have vague memories concerning the Kolchak episodes about the 
vampire and the werewolf (I think....it's been years...)plus I 
distinctly remember "Chopper" (the one concerning the headless 
motorcycle rider)



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I noticed that in the advance art of the new JLA Avengers teamup 
that Blue Beetle, old Charlton stalwart is also in on the action. 
ALways liked him!!! Then ag'in, he was mostly in JLA since he joined 
the DC pantheon. 
Hey guys!!! Is the original unpublished JLA Avengers team up 
anywhere on the web, like the Cancelled Cavalcade thingie?? this 
girl would like 2 know!!!

Hmmmmm?

Kendra S.


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Hey Guys!!! At least ol' Jimbo aint around 2 screw up this newest 
JLA Avengers teamup unlike the last time, eh?

Kendra


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Pages from the aborted JLA-Avengers teamup of the 80's were around on 
the net for a time. Recently folks have been asked to take them down 
by the artist George Perez. That's because the magazine "Back Issue" 
(a new publication by Twomorrows) is going to publish these pages in 
the next few months. 

Expect Blue Beetle for sure, and it's almost inevitable that Captain 
Atom will also have a role in the story. I wouldn't be surprised to 
see Thunderbolt (albeit in a somewhat disguised form) show up as he 
briefly served with Justice League Task Force. Perez seems committed 
to getting all members of both teams into the fray in some way. 

Also I just read that Captain Atom will be playing a relatively 
important role in the Superman/Batman teamup book that just started. 
Go figure!

Dean


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>I wouldn't be surprised to 
> see Thunderbolt (albeit in a somewhat disguised form) show up as he 
> briefly served with Justice League Task Force. Perez seems 
committed 
> to getting all members of both teams into the fray in some way. 


http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/news/030512.htm

According to this site, he and other Charltoners will not be included.

--Eric


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--- In Ch





...I've disagreed with Captain Comics over whether Ma Hunkel , the 
Red Tornado , was a JSA member ! I say yes , just as Bats , Supes , 
and Mr. Teriffic were , he says no , quoting Roy Thomas...whom I 
think has a bit of a bug upwards in his arse regarding " humor 
characters "...The Red Tornado II-introducing story showe the JSA 
members remembering Ma , and , later , an " every JSA member " pinup 
showed both Tornados !!!!!!! 

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, punkybluester <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >I wouldn't be surprised to 
> > see Thunderbolt (albeit in a somewhat disguised form) show up as 
he 
> > briefly served with Justice League Task Force. Perez seems 
> committed 
> > to getting all members of both teams into the fray in some way. 
> 
> 
> http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/news/030512.htm
> 
> According to this site, he and other Charltoners will not be 
included.
> 
> --Eric


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I'm not startled by that, but with T-Bolt making at least two 
separate appearances as a Justice Leaguer it seems a  bit thin to 
discount him now. Admittedly DC no longer has the rights to the 
character, but as I say a disguised T-Bolt might fit right in. 
Frankly I'm sure these four wonderful issues will have plenty enough 
in them to keep me happy regardless.

Dean


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Dean,
 
Actually...I read in a comics related magazine that DC did not legally have the rights to Peter Cannon---Thunderbolt WHEN they published that short series, which ended up being cancelled. (I had a LOC in one of those.)
 
The way Pete Morisi tells it, he did NOT give DC the rights to publish that. But, DC, being a mega-rich entity, figured that Morisi would not have the $ to sue them if they went ahead and published it, anyway. According to Morisi, DC strong-armed him. EG: "What are you going to do-?" Put another way, "What CAN you do?"
 
NOTE: this character also appeared in an issue of DC CHALLENGE as well as Who's Who's in DC series, whatever that was called. (Too lazy to look it up.) 
 
My understanding, based on what I read, was that, even though DC decided to go ahead and publish (while Morisi held the legal rights and did NOT give authorization), was that DC said, "Look, if this project fails " EG: gets cancelled due to poor sales..."We'll 'let you have it' (though it BELONGED to him, anyway), and not pursue it further.
 
Of course, Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt also appeared in JLA 1/4ly  # 7.
 
I read this Morisi interview several times, and this is what I got out of it. I invite comments on this. Did anyone else here read the same interview I did? 
 
Phil Latter
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Correction,
 
the issue where Peter Cannon appeared was Justice League International Quarterly # 14, not Justice League Quarterly #7.
 
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I used to feel somewhat sorry for Morisi 'til I read this article - it seems 
like he basically copied the look for Thunderbolt from the original (NOT 
Marvel) Daredevil:

"Pete Morisi, who'd done work for Lev Gleason in the 1940s, reported in COMIC 
BOOK ARTIST #9 (2000) that he'd actually attempted to buy the rights to 
Daredevil in the early 1960s. Gleason gave him his okay but Biro balked, requesting 
a percentage of future profits. Morisi said no and went on to create a hero 
of his own for Charlton in a scaled-down version of DD's red and blue costume - 
Peter Cannon ... Thunderbolt."

More of this article can be read at: <A HREF="http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/bobro/105942842217040.htm">
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/bobro/105942842217040.htm</A>



    


    




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I also read that article you are referring to, below. Nonetheless, I still feel sorry for Morisi, and believe that, despite the similarities to the Golden Age Daredevil character's costume, there are major differences. And besides, the character himself EG: personality, etc,etc,etc are completely different. I see this character as completely different. 
 
My feeling: Pete Morisi's Peter Cannon/ Thunderbolt (both Morisi and T-Bolt both have the same first name, Peter...perhaps an idealized version of...himself?)...but T-Bolt is unique. I feel his creation was INSPIRED by the Golden Age Daredevil. Not a plagiarized. The two characters are far too different to fairly say that, I feel. 
 
Besides, Batman was inspired by The Bat, The Black Bat, Zorro...Marvel's Daredevil was inspired by the Golden Age Daredevil...I remind you that the earliest Golden Age Daredevil tales, the costume had yellow in it...only later did it change to blue and red...whereas the Marvel Daredevil's costume was original red/black and yellow,too, thus it was even MORE similar to the earliest adventures of the G.A Daredevil to begin with. 
 
Many unique characters were inspired by predecessors...
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

atomjla wrote:
I used to feel somewhat sorry for Morisi 'til I read this article - it seems 
like he basically copied the look for Thunderbolt from the original (NOT 
Marvel) Daredevil:

"Pete Morisi, who'd done work for Lev Gleason in the 1940s, reported in COMIC 
BOOK ARTIST #9 (2000) that he'd actually attempted to buy the rights to 
Daredevil in the early 1960s. Gleason gave him his okay but Biro balked, requesting 
a percentage of future profits. Morisi said no and went on to create a hero 
of his own for Charlton in a scaled-down version of DD's red and blue costume - 
Peter Cannon ... Thunderbolt."



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--- In Ch






...I recall reading that , in the first of Comic Book Artist's 
Charlton issues .  
( NOTE: CBA has , recently , left TwoMorrows , for another company . 
I would assume that TwoMorrows would retain the backstock , the 
right to sell their back issues - Incidentally , today , in the USPO 
mail , I received a TwoMorrows junk/promotional postcard , plugging 
their - " Graphite Edition " ? - Kirby Captain Victory book , 
coertesy of having done a large CBA back issue order from them in 
the past . - While I'd assume that CBA would retain the rights to 
reprint all of their old issues...Some self-depreciating comments 
that I recall seeing , in CBA . regarding those two Charlton isuues -
 " We're the company that put out TWO Charlton issues " !!!!!!!!!!! -
 makes me doubt the likelihood of a bonus-sized TPB of those issues 
ever coming out !!!!!!!!! )
  I know I've posted about this Many Postings Below , but...
  Actually , the Dick Giordano interview in the same issue touched 
upon that as well , and , in an...interesting...way !
  First , I'll mention that , I think Morisi said , that , b$ the 
dispute with DC happened , PC-T was , apparently , " held by an 
Austrlian corporation " for a while , along with other 
Charltonians , I guess . Details ?????????
  Anyway , however , Dick G. Giordano said , parsphrasing from 
memory , something to the effect of " When that dispute with Pete 
and DC happened , I let Pete think I was the bad guy..." And , I 
think nothing else new was printed . But - Was something left out of 
the printed version ??????????? - , the implication was that Dickie 
G. had something to do with it , behind the scenes , the 
circumstances of PC-T , eventually , returning to PAM . Thank you 
and good afternoon !

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> 
wrote:
> Dean,
>  
> Actually...I read in a comics related magazine that DC did not 
legally have the rights to Peter Cannon---Thunderbolt WHEN they 
published that short series, which ended up being cancelled. (I had 
a LOC in one of those.)
>  
> The way Pete Morisi tells it, he did NOT give DC the rights to 
publish that. But, DC, being a mega-rich entity, figured that Morisi 
would not have the $ to sue them if they went ahead and published 
it, anyway. According to Morisi, DC strong-armed him. EG: "What are 
you going to do-?" Put another way, "What CAN you do?"
>  
> NOTE: this character also appeared in an issue of DC CHALLENGE as 
well as Who's Who's in DC series, whatever that was called. (Too 
lazy to look it up.) 
>  
> My understanding, based on what I read, was that, even though DC 
decided to go ahead and publish (while Morisi held the legal rights 
and did NOT give authorization), was that DC said, "Look, if this 
project fails " EG: gets cancelled due to poor sales..."We'll 'let 
you have it' (though it BELONGED to him, anyway), and not pursue it 
further.
>  
> Of course, Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt also appeared in JLA 1/4ly  
# 7.
>  
> I read this Morisi interview several times, and this is what I got 
out of it. I invite comments on this. Did anyone else here read the 
same interview I did? 
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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That subscription ad , in the " Phantom Of '76 " issue , seems to 
advertise a comic called..." The Eagle " ?...Under the " Adventure " 
classification , I can't really read it !!!!!!!! Sice I guess that 
File is gonna be wiped out...What does it say ?????? ( The 3 70s TV 
titles are also listed . 
  Incidentally , a " Hagar " title is listed , also , under " 
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--- In Ch






...Although I'm SURE someone was gonna answer me...( uh huh )...I was 
able to check it on a " bigger " screen , it's " CB Sagas " . 10-4 
good buddy ! I wonder if any art , from that , survives...a CB McCall 
photo cover ? Failing that , Red Sovine ? A charity tie-in with Betty 
( " First Mama " , remember . ) Ford ? Ah...the Seventies...........

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
<waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> That subscription ad , in the " Phantom Of '76 " issue , seems to 
> advertise a comic called..." The Eagle " ?...Under the " 
Adventure " 
> classification , I can't really read it !!!!!!!! Sice I guess that 
> File is gonna be wiped out...What does it say ?????? ( The 3 70s TV 
> titles are also listed . 
>   Incidentally , a " Hagar " title is listed , also , under " 
> Humor " .


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
<waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> --- In Ch
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...Although I'm SURE someone was gonna answer me...( uh huh )...I 
was 
> able to check it on a " bigger " screen , it's " CB Sagas " . 10-4 
> good buddy ! I wonder if any art , from that , survives...a CB 
McCall 
> photo cover ? Failing that , Red Sovine ? A charity tie-in with 
Betty 
> ( " First Mama " , remember . ) Ford ? Ah...the 
Seventies...........
> 
> arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
> <waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> > That subscription ad , in the " Phantom Of '76 " issue , seems 
to 
> > advertise a comic called..." The Eagle " ?...Under the " 
> Adventure " 
> > classification , I can't really read it !!!!!!!! Sice I guess 
that 
> > File is gonna be wiped out...What does it say ?????? ( The 3 70s 
TV 
> > titles are also listed . 
> >   Incidentally , a " Hagar " title is listed , also , under " 
> > Humor " .




 Hi I just read your message and then the second one CBs were big 
then  and CW Mcall had that big hit(actually he was big in real 
estate) and of course Red Sovine( Teddy Bear and Phanton 309) still 
have the 8 track with the little boy holding the teddy bear on it 
sniff I just thought I would respond, noone likes  a no response to 
a message. I am not sure about the art work though. c ya 









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--- In Ch

...Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

rltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
> <waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Ch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ...Although I'm SURE someone was gonna answer me...( uh huh )...I 
> was 
> > able to check it on a " bigger " screen , it's " CB Sagas " . 10-
4 
> > good buddy ! I wonder if any art , from that , survives...a CB 
> McCall 
> > photo cover ? Failing that , Red Sovine ? A charity tie-in with 
> Betty 
> > ( " First Mama " , remember . ) Ford ? Ah...the 
> Seventies...........
> > 
> > arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
> > <waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> > > That subscription ad , in the " Phantom Of '76 " issue , seems 
> to 
> > > advertise a comic called..." The Eagle " ?...Under the " 
> > Adventure " 
> > > classification , I can't really read it !!!!!!!! Sice I guess 
> that 
> > > File is gonna be wiped out...What does it say ?????? ( The 3 
70s 
> TV 
> > > titles are also listed . 
> > >   Incidentally , a " Hagar " title is listed , also , under " 
> > > Humor " .
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi I just read your message and then the second one CBs were big 
> then  and CW Mcall had that big hit(actually he was big in real 
> estate) and of course Red Sovine( Teddy Bear and Phanton 309) still 
> have the 8 track with the little boy holding the teddy bear on it 
> sniff I just thought I would respond, noone likes  a no response to 
> a message. I am not sure about the art work though. c ya


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I've been reading some issues of Gunfighters lately and am very 
impressed with the artist on the Kid Montana feature.  Anyone know 
who drew it?

Tom


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Hi Tom,
Various artists delineated The Kid, among them Rocke Mastroserio and the 
Charles Nicholas/Vince Alascia tag-team, but the ones in Gunfighters are 
mostly by Pete "PAM" Morisi. Find out more about him at www.ramonschenk.nl, 
my website.

Ramon Schenk
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>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:29:44 -0000
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>I've been reading some issues of Gunfighters lately and am very
>impressed with the artist on the Kid Montana feature.  Anyone know
>who drew it?
>
>Tom
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Thanks for the info.

Tom

--- Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> Various artists delineated The Kid, among them Rocke
> Mastroserio and the 
> Charles Nicholas/Vince Alascia tag-team, but the
> ones in Gunfighters are 
> mostly by Pete "PAM" Morisi. Find out more about him
> at www.ramonschenk.nl, 
> my website.
> 
> Ramon Schenk
> http://www.ramonschenk.nl
> 
> 
> >From: "tom" <tomncape@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> >To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Kid Montana artist
> >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:29:44 -0000
> >
> >I've been reading some issues of Gunfighters lately
> and am very
> >impressed with the artist on the Kid Montana
> feature.  Anyone know
> >who drew it?
> >
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...........Does anyone want 2 talk about that ?????
Where I lived , mid-70s , I recall C. being as available every place that sold CBs , ( 
Which weren't many ( It was the pre-CB-shop era ! ) , as much as Marvel/DC/Archie/
Harvey . 
  Gold Key , by contrast - and , I KNOW I've said this before ! - was not disributed to 
newsstands in my area . Period .  I'm not denying the truth of others' " They weren't , 
really , in MY area..." stories...
  I was " a fan " , too , I was aware of this !

  


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...I would like 2 talk about the Wolf Phantoms ! Got the time ???????





--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" <waltsland_2008@y...> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...I had them , they introduced , somewhat more , to the Phantom in 
> general , and , completely introduced me to the Scandanavian-
> assembled original comic book material that they printed , the same 
> material that the Frew AU one primarily draws from .
>   If you mean a real-time " chat " , it's unlikely I can find the 
> time/direct my schedule to it , especially given the non-luck I had 
> when I tried to join in in a sceduled chat at Comics Cavalcade .
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "wonkas2003" 
> <wonkas2003@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > The Wolf Phantoms were brand new at the time, eh? And in full 
> colour 
> > too! I have two of them. I happen to think they were very well 
> done. 
> > Anyone want to chat about that, hmm?
> > 
> > Kendra


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I too must have lived in a hot delivery pocket for Charlton, because 
I don't remember them being especially scarce. When I was loading up 
on issues in the mid-70's I found most everything they put out, and 
further I found loads of back issues in local flea markets and the 
like. Charlton was rare in my little rural Kentucky neighborhood. Nor 
were they hard to find in the college town I moved to afterwards. 
Soon after the company folded, but I was able to buy most of the 
later 70's material from local grocery newsstands. 

Dean


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I have several of these, most gotten from back issue bins. The Wolf 
books were difficult for me to find back when they were coming out. 
It seemed the local comics shops didn't keep very many in stock and 
they were rare to stumble across. If I recollect correctly, Wolf was 
a British outfit; is that right?

The stories were pretty good as I remember, and the covers were by 
and large outstanding!

Dean


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In my area, charlton comics were very sporadically distributed to 
the drugstore comics racks where I got almost all the other 
comics published. However, they WERE distributed to small 
town stores nearby. firtunately my parents went for 'weekend 
drives" (remember THAT tradition?) and every time we'd stop in 
some small town, I'd head for the local drugstore to check out 
the available comic selection. Charlton comics were usually 
available there, so I was always able to get quite a collection 
through the years. It always puzzled me that the distribution was 
handled this way. I know, for example, that it was assumed that 
western novels sold better in rural areas and were sent out of 
town...and sci fi novels were offered for sale in town but not in the 
country. But this doesn't seem to apply to Charlton.
   I CAN tell you that the Charlton numbering system drove me 
crazy because, since I could never be sure I got all the Charlton 
comics that were sold, I'd feel sure I missed umpteen issues! If I 
went to a small town and got "Gunmaster and Bullet Boy" 
Number 87, I could only assume that somehow I missed eighty 
six issues of this title! Issues I could nev er even see (had they 
existed) because of the wacky distribution!
   often with american business, you just gotta wonder "What 
ARE they thinking??!?"


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In the town where I grew up in the late'50's and sixties, none of the 
Charlton comics were available on newstand but the non-comic 
magazines were.  I got my charltons at Mom &Pop groceries that sold 
second hand comics for a nickei apiece. Almost every issue would show 
up in these places so things worked out okay.  I may have got "em 
late but I got "em cheap!


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The few places I bought comics, one of which was a pool hall, would have a 
couple of Charltons, and the rest would be DC and Marvel.  Which is why I 
subscribed to the Blue Beetle and Captain Atom.  Charlton mailed their subs flat, 
but unprotected, in a brown envelope, so there was usually a bit of crinkling at 
the corners.  Still, I got to read the story, so that was what counted.

     Allen Smith

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--- In Ch






...Yes , it was a Brit. outfit , although issueing their comics in 
the distinctive American size . 
  Basically , anyway , every British-issued comic I've ever come 
across , of a " widely-distributed " nature , anyway , has had a 
quite distinct page size , larger & wider than the US size...But this 
one was in the US size !!!!!!!!!
  According by Australian Deep Woods , it was distro'd to Down 
Under , as well . A repro of the 1st issue cover shows it as having a 
plug/tie-in for the " Derenders Of The Universe " TV series , which I 
guess must have been on British network TV at that time . Do you 
remember the U. S. #1 having that ????? Perhaps it didn't ?????????
  I , ended up , taking a sub for it , at my #2 store at the time . I 
might've , still , missed a few issues , due 2 getting 2 the store ( 
In hour-ish away by Greyhound bus Appelton , Wisconsin , far from 
Green Bay , where I lived then . ) late .
  The company neglected to put a U. S. price on it !!!!!!!!! Just a 
pounds - 99 pence , I believe - amount !
 Leading to me getting it cheaper , I'd tend - being - nore or less - 
honest , I'd say , at the store , " Well , a pound is , oh , 2 
dollars , well , downwards of that , a $1.50..." Anyway , I think I'd 
tend to get it at , if not $1 , mebbe $1.25 , $1.50 maybe , although 
I suppose that the - It might not've been Previews , then , my main 
store then , for sure , and , I would suppose , that #2 shop , took 
now-out-of-business Capital City , not Previews ( Was it called that 
then ? ) - official price - more than $i.50 ????? Hey , while mis-
typing here , I discovered that an " and " sign - " & " - would 
appear to be an adequate " pound note " sign , though , I'd , 
before , thought of a small letter F - " f ' - as best 4 that . Jolly-
ho !!!!!!!!!
  Yes , it served to make me more familiar with the Phantom , and , 
introduce me to the Scandanavian-produced - Were thay named Egmont at 
that point ???????? material that it , primarily , drew from , the 
60s King stuff too -
  Deep Woods siad that , it's been suggested that complaints from 
Australian Frew , that this full-colo(u)r CB - Frew's CB has always 
been , and remains thus too this day , published in black and white - 
was unfair competition - The Wolf was , supposed to be , comics shops 
only Oz-ward , while the Frew is newsstand'd , but , STILL - might've 
contributed to the Wolf's demise !!!!!!!!! 

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> I have several of these, most gotten from back issue bins. The Wolf 
> books were difficult for me to find back when they were coming out. 
> It seemed the local comics shops didn't keep very many in stock and 
> they were rare to stumble across. If I recollect correctly, Wolf 
was 
> a British outfit; is that right?
> 
> The stories were pretty good as I remember, and the covers were by 
> and large outstanding!
> 
> Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "waltsland_2008" 
<waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> Where I lived , mid-70s , I recall C. being as available every 
place that sold CBs , ( 
> Which weren't many ( It was the pre-CB-shop era ! ) , as much as 
Marvel/DC/Archie/
> Harvey . 
>   Gold Key , by contrast - and , I KNOW I've said this before ! - 
was not disributed to 
> newsstands in my area . Period .  I'm not denying the truth of 
others' " They weren't , 
> really , in MY area..." stories...
>   I was " a fan " , too , I was aware of this !

When I lived in SOUTH DAKOTA back in 76-78, you could pick up 
charltons on the spinner racks in K-Mart!  K-Mart!!!  Oh, man how I 
remember seeing Yang every time I went there.  But I especially 
remember the Space: 1999's and the Doomsday +1's, Monster Hunters & 
Creepy Things!

We also saw Charltons at the mom & pop grocery stores or drug 
stores.  Lewis Drug in Huron was famous for having a ton of 
Charltons.  It where I ALWAYS saw E-Man comics...



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Anyone in here scanning their old Charlton Comics?  I know lots of 
people who are doing it.  Great way to keep the age off the books 
and make sure the ol' house flood or tornado doesn't destroy those 
old books.

I now have sets of:

Doomsday +1
Space: 1999
Creepy Things (Missing 2 issues)
E-Man
Monster Hunters (Missing many issues still)

And I have the first few issues of some runs like:

Six Million Dollar Man
Bionic Woman
Beyond the Grave

I'm finding that I'm really getting into Haunted Library!  Those old 
Charlton Horror Comics are the best!

I wish they were all still out, just so I could get 'em.  Ordering 
them at comic shops online runs a fortune...



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  Hey , does the " old " Blue Beetle , in this cover , kind of look 
like he was designed with some resembelance to the Phantom in mind - 
Remember , this was considerably before C. picked up the Kin account 
and the Phantom w/it , that would've beem about 1968 - or 
what ?????????


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I see the similarity, but I doubt it. The costume is similar to the 
Phantom's mostly in regard to the headgear substituting goggles for a 
mask. The Ghost Who Walks doesn't wear gloves and he does wear boots. 

I think this cover communicates comic strip because it is so static. 
For the record this is my very first issue of Blue Beetle (I still 
have the tattered copy). The story was vivid and truly a throwback 
Silver Age epic. The war between the BLUE Beetle and GREEN Praying 
Mantis Man appealed to my youthful notions and stuck vividly in my 
memory.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, paulbrowning35 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Anyone in here scanning their old Charlton Comics?  I know lots of 
> people who are doing it.  Great way to keep the age off the books 
> and make sure the ol' house flood or tornado doesn't destroy those 
> old books.
> 
> I now have sets of:
> 
> Doomsday +1
> Space: 1999
> Creepy Things (Missing 2 issues)
> E-Man
> Monster Hunters (Missing many issues still)
> 
> And I have the first few issues of some runs like:
> 
> Six Million Dollar Man
> Bionic Woman
> Beyond the Grave
> 
> I'm finding that I'm really getting into Haunted Library!  Those 
old 
> Charlton Horror Comics are the best!
> 
> I wish they were all still out, just so I could get 'em.  Ordering 
> them at comic shops online runs a fortune...

If you have access to newsgroups, alt.binaries.pictures.comics sees a 
post of one or two Charlton comics a week. The Thing, Space War, at 
least three incarnations of Blue Beetle (Fox, Charlton's Dan Garrett, 
and Ted Kord), Haunted, all have shown up there. They have a repost 
newsgroup also, but if you post a request on either one, usually 
within a day or two someone will post what you ask for. 
Someone just posted Mystery Men #3, with an old Blue Beetle story in 
it. He's wearing a short sleeve shirt; must be summer or something.

Bill


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...and another note:

I downloaded a copy of Yellowjacket #8. I'd never heard of it, but 
I'm trying a few of the old golden age comics out to see what I 
missed (boy, what lousy colorists. No wonder comics were considered 
garish junk). Looking at the indicia, it says it was published by 
Frank Publishing, and gives an address in Derby Connecticut...

And, in Mystery men, not only is Blue Beetle wearing a short sleeved 
shirt, but there is the outline of a beetle diagonally across the 
front, looking a lot like the shirt worn by the late and unlamented 
Scarlet Spider.
And he has antennas
Yes, I said antennas.
Shades of The Tick...


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Hi. Despite my familiarity with some parts of the Charlton romance line, I
occasionally receive a message from a fan that stumps me. (Actually, it=B9s
not that hard to stump me. Charlton put out so many romance comics!) Anyway=
,
I received the following e-mail the other day from Chris Khalaf and wondere=
d
if anyone on this list had any information that I could pass on:

I've been trying to get a line on the romance stuff Jim Aparo did for
Charlton.  So far, I found one ROMANTIC STORY and one JUST MARRIED.  Do you
know of=20
others?

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
7218 27th Ave. N.E.
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John, Chris,
Here is a list of all the Charlton Aparo work I have assembled. As you can 
see from the titles, these do not include any romance books, so I too would 
love to know of any other romance work Aparo did!

Ramon Schenk

Title	Issue	Cover date	Story title
BEYOND THE GRAVE	13	2/84	cover
CAPTAIN ATOM	89	12/67	Masque Of Mirrors
CAPTAIN ATOM	88	10/67	Poetry Of Peril!
CHARLTON PREMIERE VOL.2	4	5/68	Insignificant Man, The
CHEYENNE KID	71	3/69	Bad, The Worse And The So-so!, The
CHEYENNE KID	67	7/68	Medicine Man!
CHEYENNE KID	69	11/68	Wander
CHEYENNE KID	68	9/68	Feud!
GHOST MANOR VOL.2	77	11/84	Secret Of The Saucer, The
GHOSTLY TALES	164	12/83	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	76	11/69	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	81	8/70	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	72	3/69	Uncle Henry's Heir!
GHOSTLY TALES	72	3/69	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	68	9/68	Eternal Mountain, The
GHOSTLY TALES	164	12/83	Big Deal, The
GHOSTLY TALES	65	2/68	Phantom Crew, The
GHOSTLY TALES	66	5/68	Water, Water, Everywhere
GHOSTLY TALES	79	4/70	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	137	8/79	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	141	2/80	Phantom Crew, The
GHOSTLY TALES	146	12/80	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	71	1/69	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	74	7/69	cover
GHOSTLY TALES	68	9/68	Yo Ho Ho And A Dead Man's Jest
GO-GO	9	10/67	Wild Life and Adventures Of Miss Bikini Luv, The
GO-GO	9	10/67	cover
GUNFIGHTERS	52	10/67	Coward, The
HERCULES	8	12/68	Escape
HERCULES	1	10/67	Feud, The
HERCULES	4	6/68	Galley, The
HERCULES	9	2/69	Freahulf
HERCULES	7	11/68	Captive, The
HERCULES	3	2/68	Banishment
HERCULES	5	7/68	Battle Lost, The
HERCULES (magazine)	8	12/68	Plot, The
HERCULES (magazine)	8	12/68	Feud, The
HERCULES (magazine)	8	12/68	frontispiece
HERCULES (magazine)	8	12/68	cover
HERCULES (magazine)	8	12/68	Banishment
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	8	8/68	Mist, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	8	8/68	cover
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	7	7/68	Girl In The Dream!, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	69	11/81	Girl In The Dream!, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	4	11/67	Cat, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	15	8/69	cover
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	66	6/81	cover
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	66	6/81	Best Of All Possible Worlds, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	5	1/68	Best Of All Possible Worlds, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	66	6/81	Mist, The
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	14	6/69	cover
MANY GHOSTS OF DOCTOR GRAVES	67	7/81	cover
PHANTOM	61	9/74	cover
PHANTOM	31	4/69	cover
PHANTOM	31	4/69	Phantom Of Shang-Ri-La, The
SCARY TALES	22	10/80	Cat, The
SECRET AGENT	10	10/67	Espionage: Muscle Beach Style!
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	4	11/68	cover
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	4	11/68	Imitation People, The
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	1 (60)	10/67	Secret Of The Saucer, The
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	8	7/69	cover
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	2	7/68	Quest Begins, The
SPACE ADVENTURES VOL.2	2	7/68	cover
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	9	9/69	cover
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	7	5/69	cover
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	2	7/68	Big Deal, The
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	4	11/68	cover
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	8	7/69	cover
STRANGE SUSPENSE STORIES VOL.2	4	11/68	Race Unto Death
THANE OF BAGARTH	24	10/85	Feud, The
THANE OF BAGARTH	25	12/85	Banishment
THANE OF BAGARTH	25	12/85	Galley, The
THUNDERBOLT	60	11/67	Prankster, The


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>Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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>Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:37:36 -0700
>
>Hi. Despite my familiarity with some parts of the Charlton romance line, I
>occasionally receive a message from a fan that stumps me. (Actually, it¹s
>not that hard to stump me. Charlton put out so many romance comics!) 
>Anyway,
>I received the following e-mail the other day from Chris Khalaf and 
>wondered
>if anyone on this list had any information that I could pass on:
>
>I've been trying to get a line on the romance stuff Jim Aparo did for
>Charlton.  So far, I found one ROMANTIC STORY and one JUST MARRIED.  Do you
>know of
>others?
>
>Best Wishes,
>John Lustig
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Aparo drew such lovely women, that maybe it just seems logical that 
Charlton would have tapped him to do some romance work. The fact they 
rarely did if at all, points to yet another missed opportunity. 

Alas.

Dean


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> John, Chris,
> Here is a list of all the Charlton Aparo work I have assembled. As you can
> see from the titles, these do not include any romance books, so I too would
> love to know of any other romance work Aparo did!

Thanks, Ramon for the list of Aparo credits. (And thanks to Dean for the
comments.) I'll pass both back onto Chris. I'll see if I can get a list from
Chris of the two Aparo romance credits he has. If so, I'll post them here.


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--- In Ch






...I think that list considerably underlists Aparo's Phantom work , if I had time , I'd go 
to the listing of , as they call it , " Gold key/King/Charlton " Phantom stories there , 
but...
  As for Aparo's women , well , in his DC years , I , myself , had the opinion that he 
had a tendency to draw ( Secondary/non-costume wearing ) female characters with 
the same face - scowling all the time !!!!!!!!! One assumes that he might have drawn 
upon thw same model , presumably Mrs. Aparo - " Here , dear ! Now , let's pose ...."

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Aparo drew such lovely women








, that maybe it just seems logical that 
> Charlton would have tapped him to do some romance work. The fact they 
> rarely did if at all, points to yet another missed opportunity. 
> 
> Alas.
> 
> Dean


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Hi. In regard to  Jim Aparo's romance work, I did receive a bit of information. 
According to Chris Khalaf, Aparo did a story in ROMANTIC STORY 94. That's all the 
info I've gotten so far.

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Did Judomaster or Sarge Steel ever learn the Smiling Skull's given 
name and, if so, what was it?

Thanks in advance,
Jon


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Jon,
 
I have all eleven of the Charlton Judomasters including his first appearance in Special War Series # 4, plus all the Sarge Steel/- Secret Agents that Sarge Steel appeared in as well.
 
In Judomaster # 92, The Smiling Skull's real name was revealed as Rudolph Wook, "A master spy who is a constant thorn in our side."
 
Happy to be of service.
 
Phil Latter
Canada

jfglade <jfglade@yahoo.com> wrote:
Did Judomaster or Sarge Steel ever learn the Smiling Skull's given 
name and, if so, what was it?

Thanks in advance,
Jon


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Jon,
 
That was a typo. Smiling Skull was Rudolph Wolk, not Wook. Revealed in Judomaster # 92, page 5.
 
Phil Latter
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In the latest Asimov's, or is it Analog, there is a Nick Cuti illo.  I was 
glad to see his name on a story.  I don't have the issue in front of me and I'm 
too addled to remember it on my own, but it's a nice illustration.

     Allen Smith


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Thanks, Phil. I appreciate it. It has been a long time since I read 
that issue, and I couldn't remember if Smiling Skull's real name had 
ever been disclosed or not, let alone what it might be.

Take care,
Jon

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>  
> That was a typo. Smiling Skull was Rudolph Wolk, not Wook. Revealed 
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>  
> Phil Latter
> Canada
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I was delighted to find the first two issues of Last Kiss in the back 
issue bins during my recent roadtrip to Nashville. Given that #1 is 
out of print, I consider myself quite lucky to land a copy. The Joe 
Gill interview is a hoot and worth the price of admission by itself. 
After reading two interviews with this writing machine, I'm more 
convinced than ever it would be a very memorable experience to have a 
drink with him. As for the stories...well they are hilarious. Issue 
#2 is equally good, and anytime I can drool over exquisite B&W Dick 
Giordano artwork I will give it a try. Giordano is one of those guys 
who looks much better in B&W; his lnes are so lush. His inteview was 
very instructive, and frankly you don't see Romance comics discussed 
much. The talk about finding money for the Action line stuff was very 
interesting. Alas, Charlton was a company that didn't know what it 
had. 

Great stuff John!

Dean


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Jon,
 
Happy to help. I doubt I'll ever be as knowledgeable as Bob Rojakis...remember DC's "Ask The Answer Man"...? But I try.
 
Now, I understand he has a similar column on the internet..
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

jfglade <jfglade@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks, Phil. I appreciate it. It has been a long time since I read 
that issue, and I couldn't remember if Smiling Skull's real name had 
ever been disclosed or not, let alone what it might be.

Take care,
Jon

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> That was a typo. Smiling Skull was Rudolph Wolk, not Wook. Revealed 
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Dean, I=B9m delighted that you found the first two issues of Last Kiss and
enjoyed them both so much. Regarding Joe Gill, you=B9re right. Joe is someo=
ne
I=B9d love to spend some time with. He=B9s a very interesting and colorful =
guy!
Alas, I=B9ve never met him in person. The interview was done by phone.

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
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I have several nice auctions currently up on ebay, some ending in just a few 
days, Charlton fans may want to check out the two Horror lots, both include 
some Charlton horror books as well as some other Silver and Bronze age horror, 
price is very cheap.

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On October 13, former comic book artist and retired police officer Peter A.=
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Morisi died at the age of 75. Morisi=E2=80=99s career began in the 1940s, b=
ut is best=20
known for creating the Charlton characters Johnny Dynamite and Peter Cannon=
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Thunderbolt. In the 1940s he was assistant cartoonist on Dickie Dare and Th=
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Saint. During the course of his career, Morisi also worked with Marvel, DC,=
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Gilberton, Comic Media, Harvey, Gleason, Quality, Fiction House, and Pines.=
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entire obituary can be read here.=20


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PETER MORISI, 75 
Police officer had passion for drawing comic books 
October 13, 2003


Peter A. Morisi, 75, of Dongan Hills, a retired comic book artist and police 
officer, died yesterday in Staten Island University Hospital, Ocean Breeze. 
Born and raised in Park Slope, Brooklyn, Mr. Morisi settled in Dongan Hills 
in 1956 1973. 
He worked as a police officer for the New York Police Department for 20 
years, retiring in 1976. Mr. Morisi was stationed in Brooklyn and lower Manhattan. 
He served as a private in the Army from 1948 to 1950, stationed in Colorado. 
Mr. Morisi's passion was drawing, especially comic books. He worked as a 
freelance comic book artist and he created the characters Johnny Dynamite and 
super hero Thunderbolt, among others. 
Mr. Morisi's comic book career spanned four decades, beginning at Fox Comics 
in 1948. His most prolific work was published by Charlton Comics from the late 
1950s to the early 1970s, but he also worked for Marvel Comics, DC Comics, 
and many other publishers. 
Mr. Morisi also illustrated a column for the Advance called "Staten Island 
Stats" for several years in the 1970s. 
Mr. Morisi enjoyed watching old movies and learning movie trivia. He also 
loved dogs and spending time with his most recent dog, Midnight. 
His wife of 53 years, the former Louise Massie, died in May. 
Surviving are three sons, Steven, Russ and Val; a brother, Donald; a sister, 
Ines Salvanti, and five grandchildren. 
The funeral will be Thursday in the Richmond Funeral Home, Grant City, at 11 
a.m, officiated by the Rev. Paul L. Schooling of Gateway Cathedral, Richmond 
Valley. Cremation arrangements are being handled by Rosehill Crematory, Linden, 
N.J. 


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That's sad to hear. PAM was a distinctive and talented Charlton 
artist. I first ran across his work on Lobo, a western feature that 
tried to evoke the spaghetti westerns. PAM's spare style was ill-
suited to the feature, but his work was beautiful and memorable 
nonetheless. I eventually found a few old Thunderbolts, and I quickly 
became a fan of the mysterious PAM. His simiarity to George Tuska (a 
Marvel favorite) didn't escape me and I assumed for a few years they 
must be the same guy. Later of course I learned of Morisi's respect 
for Tuska and his unapologetic attempts to copy Tuska's style. The 
70's gave us the exquisite Vengeance Squad. This crime-adventure 
series was made merely magnificent because of PAM's wonderfully 
eccentric techniques. I most remember being struck by PAM's lack of 
special effects to communicate action. His clean figurework was 
especially effective in translating motion, and it made me see more 
possiblities for the comics form. He's was a great one for sure.

PAM RIP!

Dean




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I just heard back again from Chris Khalaf, the fan who was inquiring about
Jim Aparo=B9s Charlton romance art. As previously mentioned, Chris has only
been able to locate two romance stories that Aparo did for Charlton. As
previously reported here, one was in Romantic Story #94. The other, Chris
couldn=B9t remember. Earlier today, Chris e-mailed me with the missing info=
.
Aparo=B9s other romance story was an 8-pager in I LOVE YOU #67.

By the way, I was very sorry to here about Pete Morisi. I enjoyed his work.


Best Wishes,
John Lustig
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http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=3D0&
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Some Charlton horror books in my <A HREF=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP=
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Other nice auctions:
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Check out this Pete (P.A.M.)Morisi memorial website:

http://petermorisi.inourheartsforever.com/

It's just getting started, but already there are some cool things 
there.

Dean 


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While I can't seem 2 access it , just now , I remember that the subscription ad , in the 
" Phantom Of '76 " issue , advertises a comic called " CB Sagas " , which , obviously , 
was never published ( Just like the " Hagar The Horrible " comic , also advertised , 
there - I guess that no-one's going to comment on THAT one !!!!!!!!!!! ) ! 
        What was this 
 CB Sagas " . I mean , yes , yes , yes , I can imagine WHAT it could've been - 1976 was 
the year , " 10-4 good buddy " , Betty Ford ( whicc ! ) calling herself " First Mama " , C. 
B. Mcall and Red Sovine on Top 40 , not even just country , radio stations with CB 
songs...( Oh , and I don't really mean to be mean to Betty - " One-Tit " - Ford , 
apparently a very nice person ! No , really !!!!!!!!! I do believe that she is nice - She 
hasn't zapped herself through the Internet and throttled me , has she ??????? No , 
REALLY ! REALLY !!!!!!!!! )
  Did " CBS " get as far as a cover repro ??????? I can almost picture one - by PAM , 
maybe , and , I'm not just saying that , I think , because of his death , I think that I've 
been thinking about this for quite a while !!!!!!!!!
  I suppose that Charlton's magazine side might've had a CB-related magazine , or 
three ??????? Could some comics material/illos have appeared there ?????????


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>...AND REMEMBER --- Good taste , is TIMELESS !!!!! 


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Who among the Hollywood set would make good casting choices for 
Charlton's classic Action Heroes?

Here are my recommendations:

Captain Atom = Ben Affleck (Affleck's somewhat wooden acting style 
would be perfect for the straight, by-the-book Captain of Ditko's 
imagination. Plus Ben would look good with silver hair.)

Peacemaker = Brendan Frasier (Frasier is beefy enough to sell the 
mercenary-with-a-cause thing, and plus he would look good with short 
sleeves. Plus Frasier isn't so self-conscious that the helmet would 
bother him.)

Judomaster = Billy Zane (Zane is a proven action guy with his Phantom 
work, and that would translate well over to another jungle fighter 
like Rip Jagger. Plus Zane's leaner bodystyle is well suited for the 
judo moves.)

Thunderbolt = Matt Damon (Damon actually looks very much like 
P.A.M.'s classic creation. It wouldn't take much to sell that 
Tuskaesque look.)

and finally...

Blue Beetle = Toby Maguire (Maguire was the perfect choice for 
Dikto's most famous buggy hero, and I think he would make a dandy Ted 
Kord. He wouldn't have to be the teenager this time, and that's good.)

What do you all think?

Dean




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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> Who among the Hollywood set would make good casting choices for 
> Charlton's classic Action Heroes?
> 
> Here are my recommendations:
> 
> Captain Atom = Ben Affleck (Affleck's somewhat wooden acting style 
> would be perfect for the straight, by-the-book Captain of Ditko's 
> imagination. Plus Ben would look good with silver hair.)
> 
> Peacemaker = Brendan Frasier (Frasier is beefy enough to sell the 
> mercenary-with-a-cause thing, and plus he would look good with 
short 
> sleeves. Plus Frasier isn't so self-conscious that the helmet would 
> bother him.)
> 
> Judomaster = Billy Zane (Zane is a proven action guy with his 
Phantom 
> work, and that would translate well over to another jungle fighter 
> like Rip Jagger. Plus Zane's leaner bodystyle is well suited for 
the 
> judo moves.)
> 
> Thunderbolt = Matt Damon (Damon actually looks very much like 
> P.A.M.'s classic creation. It wouldn't take much to sell that 
> Tuskaesque look.)
> 
> and finally...
> 
> Blue Beetle = Toby Maguire (Maguire was the perfect choice for 
> Dikto's most famous buggy hero, and I think he would make a dandy 
Ted 
> Kord. He wouldn't have to be the teenager this time, and that's 
good.)
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Dean


 Those choices fit well with me especially Zane who is kinda quirky 
and I do like Frasier. The boys from Boston  especially Affleck RED 
SOX FAN I enjoy also.










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Which Charlton is your holy grail (so to speak)? Which Big Red C 
comic is still eluding you? 

For me, the answer is Fightin' 5. I have a few select issues of the 
F5, but I am far away from having a complete set. When I have found 
them, alas they quality has been superb and consequently the price 
has been beyond my limited means. 

Which Charlton are you still looking for?

Dean


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Ah, good one!
I am now mostly searching for the early Charltons, many of which are 
doubtedly Charlton or proto-Charlton as you will. I have several issues of 
Zoo Funnies and Marvels of Science, but have yet to find a single issue of 
Yellowjacket. Over the years, I have found few that were even within reach: 
in catalogues, on eBay or at auctions or at conventions. All of them eluded 
me: pulled out of auction, sniped, already sold, not for sale.
One would think that one of the ten issues would be possible to find, but 
alas. Poor Ramon!
The struggle continues! ;)
Ramon


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>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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>
>Which Charlton is your holy grail (so to speak)? Which Big Red C
>comic is still eluding you?
>
>For me, the answer is Fightin' 5. I have a few select issues of the
>F5, but I am far away from having a complete set. When I have found
>them, alas they quality has been superb and consequently the price
>has been beyond my limited means.
>
>Which Charlton are you still looking for?
>
>Dean
>
>
>
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Ramon,
I've found several of the Yellowjacket issues online and in catalogues 
(even a guy here in West Virginia who tried to sell one to me a few 
years ago), but I never purchased any of them, because they were 
always too high for my wallet. I wanted the one with the skull on the 
cover, but skull covers, even bad ones, sell for big bucks.
Mike Browning

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Ramon Schenk" 
<ramonschenk@h...> wrote:
> 
> Ah, good one!
> I am now mostly searching for the early Charltons, many of which are 
> doubtedly Charlton or proto-Charlton as you will. I have several 
issues of 
> Zoo Funnies and Marvels of Science, but have yet to find a single 
issue of 
> Yellowjacket. Over the years, I have found few that were even within 
reach: 
> in catalogues, on eBay or at auctions or at conventions. All of them 
eluded 
> me: pulled out of auction, sniped, already sold, not for sale.
> One would think that one of the ten issues would be possible to 
find, but 
> alas. Poor Ramon!
> The struggle continues! ;)
> Ramon
> 
> 
> >From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...>
> >Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> >To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Which Charlton Comic Are You Looking 
For?
> >Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:49:03 -0000
> >
> >Which Charlton is your holy grail (so to speak)? Which Big Red C
> >comic is still eluding you?
> >
> >For me, the answer is Fightin' 5. I have a few select issues of the
> >F5, but I am far away from having a complete set. When I have found
> >them, alas they quality has been superb and consequently the price
> >has been beyond my limited means.
> >
> >Which Charlton are you still looking for?
> >
> >Dean
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> 
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Dean and Ramon,

Excellent question, I agree. Speaking for myself, I am with Dean: I 
actually have all the Space Adventures Captain Atoms including # 33, 
Captain Atom's first appearance, all the Strange Suspense Stories 
issues of Captain Atom, all the Ted Kord Blue Beetles and all but 
one of the Dan Garrett Blue Beetles from the 1960's. Wish I had some 
1940's and 1950's Blue Beetles but I don't...I have all the 
Judomasters, Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolts, Peacemakers, etc...Like 
Dean, I have a handful of Fightin' Fives but need LOTS-! I can only 
find these, for some reason, in LOW grade. Reading copies only, with 
3 or 4 exceptions. I am guessing that this series was read lots by 
their owners or not taken care of in many instances. 

Yellowjacket: I do have four of those issues from the 1940's, bought 
cheap in the 1980's. I should have bought more at the time, because 
now the ones I DON'T have have priced themselves impossibly out of 
my reach: of this series, I have 4,5,7, and # 8. Three out of those 
four (including the skull cover issue) are in Very Fine to Near 
Mint. I'm not bragging here. I myself am amazed at what high grade 
these are in-! I would dearly LOVE to complete this set someday 
(Yeah, right-!), and I would also love to have TNT Comics # 1 which 
also has a Yellowjacket story, and Jack In the Box Comics # 11 which 
has a Yellowjacket story in it as well. Note: a friend sent me a 
scan of the Yellowjacket appearance in TNT Comics # 1 last week. I 
was amazed to learn that, in this story, YJ wears a different 
outfit. The shirt part of the costume in that story is covered in 
horizontal stripes-! Interestingly, in Yellowjacket # 1 which I 
DON'T have, YJ wears a domino mask, but not after that-!

I would also like to land some Gunmaster Charlton comics but have 
none. But I do have a line on some, plus four more Fightin' Fives in 
top grade that a friend is going to sell me.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada 


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Here's a Christmas season treat for you. A few years ago I ran across
a Charlton comic book called "Holi-day Surprise". It's numbered #55 
and has a March 1967
date on it. The indicia states the book was formerly known as "Summer
Fun". The frequency is indicated to be quarterly.

One strange thing is that it's a 25-cent book, a rare thing for
Charlton (or at least I've seen only a few of these). Another thing
is it's a tour de force for Tony Tallarico. Among the features are
dozens of interactive items like mazes, connect-the-dots, and
coloring pages. There are even a few things to cut out and make into
ornaments for the tree.

Among the stories is a one-page "Little Rufus" about yet one more of
Santa's reindeer, another one-page called "The Talking Snowman" about
neighborhood hijinks, a more realistically drawn "The Story of
Christmas" featuring the story of the nativity (this runs 3 pages), a
similarly drawn tale on "The Story of Hannukah" (3 pages), a one-page
prose story called "Grandma's Christmas Surprise!", a one-page gag-
story called "Santa's Stowaway", and another one-page Santa tale
about chimneys called "A Tight Squeeze".

The heart of the special though is an adaptation of "A Christmas
Carol" by Charles Dickens. This is an interesting adaptation in that
Jacob Marley is the only ghost save for Ebeneezer Scrooge himself who
becomes a wraith briefly at the story's climax. The structure is
roughly the same, but Marley plays the roles of the Ghosts of
Christmas.

All the work seems to be by Tony Tallarico (and associates I would
assume), and puts forth several styles. It's a neat little package
for the holidays and would have been an ideal stocking stuffer. Given
all the activities I can't imagine too many of these remained intact
after the fact. I'm a comics hound of the first magnitude and I want
to color a few of those delicious pages myself.

Merry Christmas!

Dean



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> Here's a Christmas season treat for you. A few years ago I ran 
across
> a Charlton comic book called "Holi-day Surprise". It's numbered #55 
> and has a March 1967
> date on it. The indicia states the book was formerly known 
as "Summer
> Fun". The frequency is indicated to be quarterly.
> 
> One strange thing is that it's a 25-cent book, a rare thing for
> Charlton (or at least I've seen only a few of these). Another thing
> is it's a tour de force for Tony Tallarico. Among the features are
> dozens of interactive items like mazes, connect-the-dots, and
> coloring pages. There are even a few things to cut out and make into
> ornaments for the tree.
> 
> Among the stories is a one-page "Little Rufus" about yet one more of
> Santa's reindeer, another one-page called "The Talking Snowman" 
about
> neighborhood hijinks, a more realistically drawn "The Story of
> Christmas" featuring the story of the nativity (this runs 3 pages), 
a
> similarly drawn tale on "The Story of Hannukah" (3 pages), a one-
page
> prose story called "Grandma's Christmas Surprise!", a one-page gag-
> story called "Santa's Stowaway", and another one-page Santa tale
> about chimneys called "A Tight Squeeze".
> 
> The heart of the special though is an adaptation of "A Christmas
> Carol" by Charles Dickens. This is an interesting adaptation in that
> Jacob Marley is the only ghost save for Ebeneezer Scrooge himself 
who
> becomes a wraith briefly at the story's climax. The structure is
> roughly the same, but Marley plays the roles of the Ghosts of
> Christmas.
> 
> All the work seems to be by Tony Tallarico (and associates I would
> assume), and puts forth several styles. It's a neat little package
> for the holidays and would have been an ideal stocking stuffer. 
Given
> all the activities I can't imagine too many of these remained intact
> after the fact. I'm a comics hound of the first magnitude and I want
> to color a few of those delicious pages myself.
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
> Dean


 Cool Merry Christmas.






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Hope everyone's having a great holiday. You can see a Christmas greeting pic
from me on the home page of my web site: www.lastkisscomics.com

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Here is a neat link to a website dedicated to Japanese monster 
movies. Among the various features are images and descriptions of 
Charlton's Gorgo comics. 

http://rodansroost.com/rodansroost/comics/charltoncomics.shtml

Enjoy!

Dean


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I happened to see something recently that reminded me that Charlton 
had a title based on the Kroft brothers' TV show " The Bugaloos " , a 
Sat-AM series that starred Martha Raye and a bunch of British kids . 
  Any comments , or , on some of the other , more " uncharacteristic " , 
C. fantasy/liscenced titles - I guess another KK's show , H. R. 
Pufunstuf , was adapted , as well - Or , Ronald MacDonald , Hee Haw , 
or , even the lesser King Features characters - Tim Tyler , Brick 
Bradford , others? - that C. did , early in their KFS deal , I guess , 
mostly if not entirely , as back-ups ?


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My fellow enthusiasts,
In the last few years, sparked by the attention for Capitol/Charlton's comic 
book line, I have attempted to write a history of one Charlton's paperback 
lines, MONARCH BOOKS. In my research I have been marred by the very limited 
attention this line has received from the (amateur) press, despite it's
popularity.

In my quest to write a thorough history, I have come upon a list of 
questions that I hope someone on these lists can answer. Of course you will 
be highly rewarded for your efforts in the form of a complimentary copy of 
the published article (hopefully in Argo Press' CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT)
and a thankful mention of your name. That coupled with the undying gratitude 
of the collecting community, of course!

Questions:
- Who were the people involved with Monarch books behind the stage? Who were 
its editor, art director, literary agents, &c.?
- What was the precise business arrangement between who ever was behind 
Monarch and Charlton/Capitol/Santangelo? Was there only one organisation, or 
were there two who shared certain facilities, such as offices, distribution 
and so on?
- What was the Christian name of "Ford" (pseudonym of Ruby L. Radford) who 
wrote no.287, Prelude to Love?
- Likewise for "Phillips" (Thomas Ramirez), no.451, All About Amy?
- Likewise for "Bonner" (W.T. Ballard),no. 452, Tough in the Saddle?
- Likewise for "Curry & Cowan", no.553, Famous Figures of the Old West.
- Likewise for "Hamlin" (William Ard), no.555, Guns of Revenge?
- Likewise for "Gareth & Pepper", no.MM600, The Enemy General?
- Any pseudonym experts out there? I have some trouble working out some 
pseudonyms. For instance, William Ard. Is it a pseudonym of John Jakes, as 
some sources state?
- Can anyone tell me more about George Fried, who designed a bunch of 
covers? Was he on Charlton's staff? Perhaps working for some of the other 
periodicals?
- Any pointers to, or better yet, (photo)copies of articles about Monarch, 
or in which an author or artist discusses his/her Monarch work, would be 
highly appreciated.
- The same for any information on the following artists: Harry Barton, 
Stanley Borack, Ralph Brillhart, Ernest Chiriaka, Rafael M.DeSoto, Mort 
Engle, Len Goldberg, Ray Johnson, Bob Maguire, Lou Marchetti, Earl Mayan, 
Tom Miller, Paul Rader, A. Leslie Ross, Harry Schaare, Jack Schoenherr, Bob 
Schultz ('RES'),  Robert Stanley, Jack Thurston and any other artists that I 
have missed.
- I would also love to get in touch with any Monarch (and/or Gold Star) 
collectors to compare notes and exchange points of view.

Of course you will be compensated for all expenses you may have to make.

Books to know more about:
There are a number of Monarchs missing from my collection that I have not 
been able to find anything in other sources about. If they do exist, I would 
like to know: author, title, date of publication, cover artist, cover price.
These are the ones I'm looking for: nos. 158, 176, 249, 269, 273, 279, 282, 
295, 339, 393, 419, 462, 485, 529, 543, 544, 556, MS-1.

Books to own:
For my research, I am looking for a copy to own of: nos.101 (Don James' Dark 
Hunger, the first Monarch),  563 (Rich Holmes, The Child-Woman, the very 
last Monarch), MM600 (Gareth & Pepper, The Enemy General), MM601 (Stuart 
James, Stranglers of Bombay), MM602 (Dean Owen, The Brides of Dracula), 
MM604 (Dean Owen, Konga),MM606 (Carson Bingham, The Street Is My Beat),
MM607 (Steve Thurman, "Mad Dog" Coll).
Any completely intact reading copy will do.
If you have these, or any other Monarch and/or Gold Star that you would like 
to sell for a reasonable price, please contact me at 
ramonschenk@hotmail.com.

I hope that, with your help, some of these questions can be answered!

Best regards,
Ramon Schenk

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Ramon, do you know when Charlton Spotlight 3 is coming out??

Kendra Stewart



Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote: My fellow enthusiasts,
In the last few years, sparked by the attention for Capitol/Charlton's comic 
book line, I have attempted to write a history of one Charlton's paperback 
lines, MONARCH BOOKS. In my research I have been marred by the very limited 
attention this line has received from the (amateur) press, despite it's
popularity.

In my quest to write a thorough history, I have come upon a list of 
questions that I hope someone on these lists can answer. Of course you will 
be highly rewarded for your efforts in the form of a complimentary copy of 
the published article (hopefully in Argo Press' CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT)
and a thankful mention of your name. That coupled with the undying gratitude 
of the collecting community, of course!

Questions:
- Who were the people involved with Monarch books behind the stage? Who were 
its editor, art director, literary agents, &c.?
- What was the precise business arrangement between who ever was behind 
Monarch and Charlton/Capitol/Santangelo? Was there only one organisation, or 
were there two who shared certain facilities, such as offices, distribution 
and so on?
- What was the Christian name of "Ford" (pseudonym of Ruby L. Radford) who 
wrote no.287, Prelude to Love?
- Likewise for "Phillips" (Thomas Ramirez), no.451, All About Amy?
- Likewise for "Bonner" (W.T. Ballard),no. 452, Tough in the Saddle?
- Likewise for "Curry & Cowan", no.553, Famous Figures of the Old West.
- Likewise for "Hamlin" (William Ard), no.555, Guns of Revenge?
- Likewise for "Gareth & Pepper", no.MM600, The Enemy General?
- Any pseudonym experts out there? I have some trouble working out some 
pseudonyms. For instance, William Ard. Is it a pseudonym of John Jakes, as 
some sources state?
- Can anyone tell me more about George Fried, who designed a bunch of 
covers? Was he on Charlton's staff? Perhaps working for some of the other 
periodicals?
- Any pointers to, or better yet, (photo)copies of articles about Monarch, 
or in which an author or artist discusses his/her Monarch work, would be 
highly appreciated.
- The same for any information on the following artists: Harry Barton, 
Stanley Borack, Ralph Brillhart, Ernest Chiriaka, Rafael M.DeSoto, Mort 
Engle, Len Goldberg, Ray Johnson, Bob Maguire, Lou Marchetti, Earl Mayan, 
Tom Miller, Paul Rader, A. Leslie Ross, Harry Schaare, Jack Schoenherr, Bob 
Schultz ('RES'),  Robert Stanley, Jack Thurston and any other artists that I 
have missed.
- I would also love to get in touch with any Monarch (and/or Gold Star) 
collectors to compare notes and exchange points of view.

Of course you will be compensated for all expenses you may have to make.

Books to know more about:
There are a number of Monarchs missing from my collection that I have not 
been able to find anything in other sources about. If they do exist, I would 
like to know: author, title, date of publication, cover artist, cover price.
These are the ones I'm looking for: nos. 158, 176, 249, 269, 273, 279, 282, 
295, 339, 393, 419, 462, 485, 529, 543, 544, 556, MS-1.

Books to own:
For my research, I am looking for a copy to own of: nos.101 (Don James' Dark 
Hunger, the first Monarch),  563 (Rich Holmes, The Child-Woman, the very 
last Monarch), MM600 (Gareth & Pepper, The Enemy General), MM601 (Stuart 
James, Stranglers of Bombay), MM602 (Dean Owen, The Brides of Dracula), 
MM604 (Dean Owen, Konga),MM606 (Carson Bingham, The Street Is My Beat),
MM607 (Steve Thurman, "Mad Dog" Coll).
Any completely intact reading copy will do.
If you have these, or any other Monarch and/or Gold Star that you would like 
to sell for a reasonable price, please contact me at 
ramonschenk@hotmail.com.

I hope that, with your help, some of these questions can be answered!

Best regards,
Ramon Schenk

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Blue Bird Comics

The Facts
These are almost exact reprints of the originals.  The cover art has been 
cropped to accommodate the top bar where the store name is placed and the 
lower bar where the typical Blue Bird bullets are placed.
The following stores are known to have participated: R&S Shoe Store, Blue 
Bird Shoes, Big Shoe Store.

Black Fury #3 – 10c – 1959
Black Fury #5 – 10c – 1959 (also Wild Bill Hickok & Jingles)
Black Fury #10 – 10c - 1961
Freddy #10 – 10c – 1961 (also My Little Margie)
Li’l Genius #7 -10c – 1960 (also Goofy Rabbit, Timmy the Timid Ghost)
Li’l Genius #8 – 10c – 1960 (also Atomic Bunny)
Masked Raider #4 -10c - 1959
Masked Raider #6 – 10c – 1960 (also Rocky Lane)
Masked Raider #7 – 10c – 1960 (also Rocky Lane)
Six-Gun Heroes #6 – 10c – 1960 (Wyatt Earp, Wild Bill Hickok, Rocky Lane, 
Annie Oakley, Lash LaRue)
Six-Gun Heroes #8 – 10c – 1960 (Wyatt Earp, Lash LaRue, Wild Bill Hickok, 
Annie Oakley)
Teenage Hotrodders #18 – 12c - 1964
Timmy the Timid Ghost #7 -10c - 1960
Wild Bill Hickok #5 – 10c – 1959

No doubt there were many more than this handful. But apparently none of the 
other genres Charlton excelled in (romance, war) were used, just humor, 
western and the odd hot rod.

The theory
My hypothesis for now is that Charlton published two sets of giveaway comics 
for Blue Bird, which sold its’ shoes in stores with various names. One set 
was  brought out in 1959-1961, the other some years later, around 1964. The 
comics were sold over the counter or given to kids by the shop assistants, 
much to the appreciation of parents, who would be guaranteed their half hour 
of undisturbed shopping.
The comics still had ‘10c’or ‘12c’ on them, to make them look like real 
comics rather than illustrated advertisement for the store. Typically, shoe 
ads only appeared on the inside and back covers.

There go my two cents’ worth! Anyone want to add or detract?
Regards,
Ramon

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I'm not familiar with Blue Bird Shoe Stores. Were they a regional 
store chain or were they bigger. That Charlton printed up comics for 
them makes me immediately think they might have been a concern 
approximately of the same stature as Charlton, a smaller independent 
outfit. Was that the case?

Dean


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I read at another Charlton board that The Big Red C almost published 
The Super Friends back in the 70's when Charlton had the relationship 
with Hanna-Barbara and H-B was producing the cartoon based on the DC 
heroes. This seems apocryphal to me, as I can't imagine Charlton so 
out of the loop that they for a moment thought they could publish a 
Superman-Batman vehicle without DC's consent. 

What do you all think?

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> I read at another Charlton board that The Big Red C almost 
published 
> The Super Friends back in the 70's when Charlton had the 
relationship 
> with Hanna-Barbara and H-B was producing the cartoon based on the 
DC 
> heroes. This seems apocryphal to me, as I can't imagine Charlton so 
> out of the loop that they for a moment thought they could publish a 
> Superman-Batman vehicle without DC's consent. 
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Dean

The story sounds apocryphal to me too, Dean, but there could be some 
truth to it, in that it may have taken some leveraging from an 
outside party to make DC decided to do a 'Super Friends' series. I 
would think that the liscense they sold to Hanna-Barbara would not 
have included the right to have a comic book adaption of the series 
done that wasn't published by DC.


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Ramon,

I'm fairly certain there was a Robin Hood reprint in with the 1959-
1961 books, although I don't have it today or haven't since way back=20=20
when. Big Shoes also let you x-ray your feet, which was irresponsible=20
in hindsight.

I doubt that helped,
Jon

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Ramon Schenk"=20
<ramonschenk@h...> wrote:
> Blue Bird Comics
>=20
> The Facts
> These are almost exact reprints of the originals.  The cover art=20
has been=20
> cropped to accommodate the top bar where the store name is placed=20
and the=20
> lower bar where the typical Blue Bird bullets are placed.
> The following stores are known to have participated: R&S Shoe=20
Store, Blue=20
> Bird Shoes, Big Shoe Store.
>=20
> Black Fury #3 =96 10c =96 1959
> Black Fury #5 =96 10c =96 1959 (also Wild Bill Hickok & Jingles)
> Black Fury #10 =96 10c - 1961
> Freddy #10 =96 10c =96 1961 (also My Little Margie)
> Li'l Genius #7 -10c =96 1960 (also Goofy Rabbit, Timmy the Timid=20
Ghost)
> Li'l Genius #8 =96 10c =96 1960 (also Atomic Bunny)
> Masked Raider #4 -10c - 1959
> Masked Raider #6 =96 10c =96 1960 (also Rocky Lane)
> Masked Raider #7 =96 10c =96 1960 (also Rocky Lane)
> Six-Gun Heroes #6 =96 10c =96 1960 (Wyatt Earp, Wild Bill Hickok, Rocky=20
Lane,=20
> Annie Oakley, Lash LaRue)
> Six-Gun Heroes #8 =96 10c =96 1960 (Wyatt Earp, Lash LaRue, Wild Bill=20
Hickok,=20
> Annie Oakley)
> Teenage Hotrodders #18 =96 12c - 1964
> Timmy the Timid Ghost #7 -10c - 1960
> Wild Bill Hickok #5 =96 10c =96 1959
>=20
> No doubt there were many more than this handful. But apparently=20
none of the=20
> other genres Charlton excelled in (romance, war) were used, just=20
humor,=20
> western and the odd hot rod.
>=20
> The theory
> My hypothesis for now is that Charlton published two sets of=20
giveaway comics=20
> for Blue Bird, which sold its' shoes in stores with various names.=20
One set=20
> was  brought out in 1959-1961, the other some years later, around=20
1964. The=20
> comics were sold over the counter or given to kids by the shop=20
assistants,=20
> much to the appreciation of parents, who would be guaranteed their=20
half hour=20
> of undisturbed shopping.
> The comics still had `10c'or `12c' on them, to make them look like=20
real=20
> comics rather than illustrated advertisement for the store.=20
Typically, shoe=20
> ads only appeared on the inside and back covers.
>=20
> There go my two cents' worth! Anyone want to add or detract?
> Regards,
> Ramon
>=20
> _________________________________________________________________
> Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger=20
http://messenger.msn.nl/


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> I'm not familiar with Blue Bird Shoe Stores. Were they a regional 
> store chain or were they bigger. That Charlton printed up comics 
for 
> them makes me immediately think they might have been a concern 
> approximately of the same stature as Charlton, a smaller 
independent 
> outfit. Was that the case?
> 
> Dean

Hard to say how big the company may have been, Dean, although there 
might well be a site out there put together by collectors of Blue 
Bird memorabilia. Blue Bird/Big Shoes etc. certainly had more than a 
few stores in the mid-west, but they weren't the only shoe chain that 
gave away comics and shoes weren't the only apparell that tried 
giveaway comics to boost sales. Lee jeans once came with 
rectangular "landscape format" comics attached to their children's 
sizes that featured "True Stories of Rodeo Champions." I only 
remember the Jim Shoulders story clearly, but who is going to forget 
a name like Shoulders? I have no idea who published these odd-sized 
books, but I know the practice went on for at least two years and 
possibly longer. I'm fairly certain the publisher wasn't Charlton but 
I have no idea who the publisher might have been, given that the 
giveaways were printed post-code when there were fewer marginal 
comics publishers. The landscape format may be a clue that the 
publisher didn't publish comics ordinarily.


Dell published more than a few giveaway comics for Blue Bird and/or 
another chains. I know of one on-line reprint (if its still up) Uncle 
Scrooge story that is now considered politically incorrect, and 
fetches high prices from collectors of that sort of marginalia. It 
might be interesting to run an internet search on "giveaway comics" 
(with multiple spellings) and see what turns up, but I don't think I 
have the time nor the real interest to do so.

Take care,
Jon



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Thanks for the info. By the way, I saw a local Lee's Recipe store 
with a neon sign proclaiming "Comics" in its window. I imagine they 
are giving away something or other. I'll have to stop by and check it 
out. Does anyone know about these Lee's Recipe chicken store comics?

Dean


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Isn't there a listing in Overstreet for these books? I seem to 
remember one ... I own an Atomic Mouse Blue Bird comic ... I bought it  
for a dime three or four years ago. It's so beat up and brittle, 
though. I bought it at a time when I was trying to find promotional 
comics from the Golden and Atomic ages. It's an interesting comic, to 
say the least ...
Mike Browning


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "jfglade" <jfglade@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
> wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with Blue Bird Shoe Stores. Were they a regional 
> > store chain or were they bigger. That Charlton printed up comics 
> for 
> > them makes me immediately think they might have been a concern 
> > approximately of the same stature as Charlton, a smaller 
> independent 
> > outfit. Was that the case?
> > 
> > Dean
> 
> Hard to say how big the company may have been, Dean, although there 
> might well be a site out there put together by collectors of Blue 
> Bird memorabilia. Blue Bird/Big Shoes etc. certainly had more than a 
> few stores in the mid-west, but they weren't the only shoe chain 
that 
> gave away comics and shoes weren't the only apparell that tried 
> giveaway comics to boost sales. Lee jeans once came with 
> rectangular "landscape format" comics attached to their children's 
> sizes that featured "True Stories of Rodeo Champions." I only 
> remember the Jim Shoulders story clearly, but who is going to forget 
> a name like Shoulders? I have no idea who published these odd-sized 
> books, but I know the practice went on for at least two years and 
> possibly longer. I'm fairly certain the publisher wasn't Charlton 
but 
> I have no idea who the publisher might have been, given that the 
> giveaways were printed post-code when there were fewer marginal 
> comics publishers. The landscape format may be a clue that the 
> publisher didn't publish comics ordinarily.
> 
> 
> Dell published more than a few giveaway comics for Blue Bird and/or 
> another chains. I know of one on-line reprint (if its still up) 
Uncle 
> Scrooge story that is now considered politically incorrect, and 
> fetches high prices from collectors of that sort of marginalia. It 
> might be interesting to run an internet search on "giveaway comics" 
> (with multiple spellings) and see what turns up, but I don't think I 
> have the time nor the real interest to do so.
> 
> Take ca


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Mike,
 
Sounds like that Atomic Mouse comic you have is so beat up and brittle that...you might say it's...browning...
 
Mr. Spock used to say that "punning is the lowest form of Earth humour." I said, he needed several stiff drinks...
 
: - )
 
Phil Latter
Eastern Canada

greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Isn't there a listing in Overstreet for these books? I seem to 
remember one ... I own an Atomic Mouse Blue Bird comic ... I bought it  
for a dime three or four years ago. It's so beat up and brittle, 
though. I bought it at a time when I was trying to find promotional 
comics from the Golden and Atomic ages. It's an interesting comic, to 
say the least ...
Mike Browning


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "jfglade" <jfglade@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
> wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with Blue Bird Shoe Stores. Were they a regional 
> > store chain or were they bigger. That Charlton printed up comics 
> for 
> > them makes me immediately think they might have been a concern 
> > approximately of the same stature as Charlton, a smaller 
> independent 
> > outfit. Was that the case?
> > 
> > Dean
> 
> Hard to say how big the company may have been, Dean, although there 
> might well be a site out there put together by collectors of Blue 
> Bird memorabilia. Blue Bird/Big Shoes etc. certainly had more than a 
> few stores in the mid-west, but they weren't the only shoe chain 
that 
> gave away comics and shoes weren't the only apparell that tried 
> giveaway comics to boost sales. Lee jeans once came with 
> rectangular "landscape format" comics attached to their children's 
> sizes that featured "True Stories of Rodeo Champions." I only 
> remember the Jim Shoulders story clearly, but who is going to forget 
> a name like Shoulders? I have no idea who published these odd-sized 
> books, but I know the practice went on for at least two years and 
> possibly longer. I'm fairly certain the publisher wasn't Charlton 
but 
> I have no idea who the publisher might have been, given that the 
> giveaways were printed post-code when there were fewer marginal 
> comics publishers. The landscape format may be a clue that the 
> publisher didn't publish comics ordinarily.
> 
> 
> Dell published more than a few giveaway comics for Blue Bird and/or 
> another chains. I know of one on-line reprint (if its still up) 
Uncle 
> Scrooge story that is now considered politically incorrect, and 
> fetches high prices from collectors of that sort of marginalia. It 
> might be interesting to run an internet search on "giveaway comics" 
> (with multiple spellings) and see what turns up, but I don't think I 
> have the time nor the real interest to do so.
> 
> Take ca


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--- In Ch






...Is Adventures Of Big Boy - he " family resturaunt " chain - still 
being published ? 
  I've read it is , but , even Overstreet picked up some false info 
that it wasn't . ( My Overstreet is the " giant " one , from a 
yearish back . )
  I've , generally , tended to live in parts of the country that are 
BB-challanged , so...
  One giveaway comic I had marginal " real " encounters with was a . 
standard comic book-sized , American Airlines one , of Harvey World 
material , probably reprints .
  I guess GK's March Of Comics giveaway...hand-sized...continued into 
the 70s ???????????

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info. By the way, I saw a local Lee's Recipe store 
> with a neon sign proclaiming "Comics" in its window. I imagine they 
> are giving away something or other. I'll have to stop by and check 
it 
> out. Does anyone know about these Lee's Recipe chicken store comics?
> 
> Dean


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Overstreet did eventually take to listing the promotion comics, but I 
have no idea how complete their listings might be. Until a few years 
ago, there didn't seem to be much interest in promotional comics 
(aside from things like the Fawcett and DC mini-books that had been 
attached to cereal boxes) but that seems to be changing.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, greatonefrommatewan 
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Isn't there a listing in Overstreet for these books? I seem to 
> remember one ... I own an Atomic Mouse Blue Bird comic ... I bought 
it  
> for a dime three or four years ago. It's so beat up and brittle, 
> though. I bought it at a time when I was trying to find promotional 
> comics from the Golden and Atomic ages. It's an interesting comic, 
to 
> say the least ...
> Mike Browning
> 
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "jfglade" <jfglade@y...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" 
<sonofvulcan@a...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm not familiar with Blue Bird Shoe Stores. Were they a 
regional 
> > > store chain or were they bigger. That Charlton printed up 
comics 
> > for 
> > > them makes me immediately think they might have been a concern 
> > > approximately of the same stature as Charlton, a smaller 
> > independent 
> > > outfit. Was that the case?
> > > 
> > > Dean
> > 
> > Hard to say how big the company may have been, Dean, although 
there 
> > might well be a site out there put together by collectors of Blue 
> > Bird memorabilia. Blue Bird/Big Shoes etc. certainly had more 
than a 
> > few stores in the mid-west, but they weren't the only shoe chain 
> that 
> > gave away comics and shoes weren't the only apparell that tried 
> > giveaway comics to boost sales. Lee jeans once came with 
> > rectangular "landscape format" comics attached to their 
children's 
> > sizes that featured "True Stories of Rodeo Champions." I only 
> > remember the Jim Shoulders story clearly, but who is going to 
forget 
> > a name like Shoulders? I have no idea who published these odd-
sized 
> > books, but I know the practice went on for at least two years and 
> > possibly longer. I'm fairly certain the publisher wasn't Charlton 
> but 
> > I have no idea who the publisher might have been, given that the 
> > giveaways were printed post-code when there were fewer marginal 
> > comics publishers. The landscape format may be a clue that the 
> > publisher didn't publish comics ordinarily.
> > 
> > 
> > Dell published more than a few giveaway comics for Blue Bird 
and/or 
> > another chains. I know of one on-line reprint (if its still up) 
> Uncle 
> > Scrooge story that is now considered politically incorrect, and 
> > fetches high prices from collectors of that sort of marginalia. 
It 
> > might be interesting to run an internet search on "giveaway 
comics" 
> > (with multiple spellings) and see what turns up, but I don't 
think I 
> > have the time nor the real interest to do so.
> > 
> > Take ca


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Since Gemstone took over the Overstreet Guide, I think there has been 
a real push to identify and promote items in such a way as to keep 
the comics market booming after the traditional big ticket items grew 
beyond most everyone. The push to identify "prototype" comics is part 
of the same drive to create a demand for product.

Dean


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I think there has been a push on promotional comics because advisors 
are seeing more of this stuff and are selling it at such high prices. 
Promotional comics are kind of like variant covers -- and completists 
want everything they can for their collections. I think the 
promotional comics market is booming simply because people want rare 
books; the more rare, the more in demand. It's what drives the comics 
collecting hobby in general, since the rarer books cost a lot more; 
always have and always will.
I'm glad the Guide is trying to identify more and more areas of 
collecting. There are trends in comics where people collect good girl 
art or injury to eye covers or headlights covers or bondage or ... the 
list goes on and on. Prototype comics and promotional comics are 
collectible in the same way and I'm glad the Guide tries to identify 
them.
Mike Browning

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been 
> a real push to identify and promote items in such a way as to keep 
> the comics market booming after the traditional big ticket items 
grew 
> beyond most everyone. The push to identify "prototype" comics is 
part 
> of the same drive to create a demand for pr


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(From: http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13 )

THUNDERBLOCKED

Fred Hembeck has been writing about another DC project, hidden away in the 
drawers. In searching for the Secret Origins sequence for Charlton superhero 
Thunderbolt by creator Pete Morasi, unpublished due to Secret Origins being 
cancelled, he made a discovery. 
Pete's son Val e-mailed Fred with the news that his dad also wrote and drew a 
complete 19 page story in 1987, that was abandoned in favour of an inhouse 
revival of the character that was then cancelled. 
Val owns the entire story, but his dad scribbled on the envelope, "Not to be 
printed or sold, per DC contract," and he doesn't know what to do and he'd 
like to get it into print somehow. 
If you think you can help, or would like to know more, go here and scroll 
down to January 21st. 


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ATomJLA,

At the bottom of your email, below, you typed, for more info, look 
at the post in the Archives for Jan 21, 2004. However: there is NO 
post on anything on the group for that date. I went to the Archives 
and checked. Can you kindly forward that post to me please-? I bet 
other members would like to see it, also. Also, since it is not 
legal to publish the story, what about scanning it onto the site so 
we can all see it-? Is this possible-?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, atomjla@a... wrote:
> (From: http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13 )
> 
> THUNDERBLOCKED
> 
> Fred Hembeck has been writing about another DC project, hidden 
away in the 
> drawers. In searching for the Secret Origins sequence for Charlton 
superhero 
> Thunderbolt by creator Pete Morasi, unpublished due to Secret 
Origins being 
> cancelled, he made a discovery. 
> Pete's son Val e-mailed Fred with the news that his dad also wrote 
and drew a 
> complete 19 page story in 1987, that was abandoned in favour of an 
inhouse 
> revival of the character that was then cancelled. 
> Val owns the entire story, but his dad scribbled on the 
envelope, "Not to be 
> printed or sold, per DC contract," and he doesn't know what to do 
and he'd 
> like to get it into print somehow. 
> If you think you can help, or would like to know more, go here and 
scroll 
> down to January 21st. 



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(from: http://www.hembeck.com/FredSez.htm )

Fred,
Thanks so much for the kind words and sentiments you expressed in your 
October 18, 2003 column regarding my father, Pete Morisi, PAM. I've been overwhelmed 
by the kind words of so many since his passing and have probably missed so 
many as well, but your thoughts really touched on some points that really ring 
home with me. Just browsing through his collection since his passing, it's 
clear what a unique style he brought to the table. As I flip through the pages of 
a book with several artist's work in it, even my 11 year old son can spot 
Grandpa's work.....it's crisp, clean, precise and charming "camera" like angles 
are a completely different look than the rest of the field. While he never 
considered himself a great artist and kept practically all of his work to himself, 
I think he downplayed himself a bit too much. His artistic vision really 
combined elements of film, radio and comics, all of which were his great 
influences, all into one medium. As far as that last Thunderbolt is concerned, I have 
the complete gem originals that DC never used. My father did it in 1987 and it's 
a 19 page beauty. Unfortunately, Dad scribbled on its envelope "not to be 
sold or given away, as per DC contract". I also have at least 4 two page "origin" 
shorts that were also not used by DC, although I'm not sure what their status 
is contractually speaking. It truly would be nice if this work could finally 
be published. I know my father always longed to do Thunderbolt again, and 
there's certainly a following that would embrace this work. Maybe you could start 
a ground swell or point me in the direction you think I might try. Any 
comments you might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the 
column.....it's right on and brings tears to my eyes each time I read it.

Sincerely,

Val Morisi
mvp23@att.net

I wrote back almost immediately to Val to thank him for his gracious 
comments, and to once again reiterate how much his father's work meant to me. I even 
told him that, obsessive fan that I was back in the seventies and eighties, I 
never could sit through a commercial for that vegetable oil spray known as Pam 
without thinking of, well, YOU know!! That's what readin' too many comics'll 
do to you, I suppose...

I also secured his permission to post his letter here in its entirety, 
address included. I had absolutely no idea that there was an entire 19 page 
Thunderbolt story out there by P.A.M.! That's exciting news! Hey, how could I NOT want 
that to finally see the light of day, y'know? As I told Val, my clout isn't 
what it once was--and at its best, it hovered somewhere around "not much at 
all, pal"--but I'd be more than happy to get this information out there. Who 
knows--maybe the right people might get wind of this and it'll start them thinking 
of a way to exhume this hidden masterwork...

Obviously, the most appealing method of getting this 19 pager into print--and 
the short origin sequences as well--would be in a lavishly produced 
THUNDERBOLT ARCHIVES, but I'm realistic enough to realize that that's a HIGHLY unlikely 
prospect. More reasonably, DC might more conservatively consider issuing a 
paperback compilation of the complete Peter Cannon saga. Still, that might also 
be asking a lot for such a cultish character, so I have yet ANOTHER suggestion 
(or two): a "Best of the Charlton Action Heroes" trade paperback!

Just think of it! You could have yourself a Ditko Blue Beetle episode, and 
maybe a few of the Question shorts that served as BB's back-up. Throw in a Pat 
Boyette Peacemaker, a Frank McLaughlin Judomaster, a Dick Giordano Sarge Steel, 
Ditko again with Captain Atom, and represent Jim Aparo with a selection of 
shorts featuring Nightshade, Tiffany Sinn, and the one-and-only Prankster yarn, 
and you've got yourself a real nifty package, one that's pretty darn likely to 
sell at least enough to justify booking time at the printers! And of course, 
THE hook DC could use to lure in the, um, more mature customers (in years, if 
not temperament) would be the chance--AND privilege--to read these unpublished 
Morisi/Thunderbolt pages! (Alongside at least an issue's worth from the 
original run, natch...) Folks, if DC can sell the THUNDER Agents in hardcover, I'd 
like to imagine that they could move enough highlights from the most glorious 
era in Charlton's history to make it worth their while! Barring that, there's 
always the 80 page Giant format, I suppose, but really, I like the trade 
paperback concept--anybody else out there with me on this?...

Nowadays, both the CD and DVD markets are being flooded with previously 
issued product, refurbished and expanded with a seemingly endless supply of unseen 
and unheard bonus material. The biggest of stars to the most marginal of cult 
faves have all successfully gone this route, and I say, why not comics, too? 
There's an awful LOT of perfectly good pages shuttered away in some closet or 
another that, for reasons both obvious and a obscure, never quite made it to 
the engravers. Why can't we faithful fans get a peek at some of it, I ask you? 
And why can't we start with this Thunderbolt story?

There. I've said my piece. If anybody has any suggestions as to what to do 
next, by all means, contact Val or me--I know he'd love to have his dad get at 
least a tiny bit of the vastly overdue recognition he deserves, which'll no 
doubt come with the printing of this long-lost gem. Me? I can't plead such lofty 
motives. Nope--I'm selfish. I just wanna READ the doggone story, dig?

(By the way, since this email came from the son of P.A.M., does that somehow 
make it S.P.A.M.? If so, its the best spam I'VE ever gotten!?!...)


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Does anyone have a scan of the L. Belle story from E-Man? I think she 
only appeared once. Secondly, does anyone know anything about the Ch. 
Bullseye issue with the logo Vanguard on the cover? Who were the 
Vanguards?



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Who were the Vanguards from the Bullseye series? They had one issue.



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Libby,

You are referring to Charlton Bullseye (second, colour comics series) # 4 from 1981. I have that issue in my collection. I just pulled it after I read your post. The Vanguards were three women who flew through space in their spaceship, righting wrongs. They kind of remind of the 1960's animated American TV series The Galaxy Trio. The Vanguards' "costumes", so to speak, were white, revealing bathing suits, basically. The Vanguards were created by Larry Houston, and I believe this to be their only appearance. That issue is dated November of 1981.

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada



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Libby,

I just sent an answering post on that. Wait for it...

: - )

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Canada



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Thanks a Lot! I appreciate it!


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My pleasure, Libby.

You're welcome.

Phil Latter

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libbylawrence <libbylawrence@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks a Lot! I appreciate it!






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I have an image of Liberty Belle on my E-Man site.
 
Rome

libbylawrence <libbylawrence@yahoo.com> wrote:
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only appeared once. Secondly, does anyone know anything about the Ch. 
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Thanks. Could you tell me a bit more about her? Thanks.


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--- In Ch






...I was under the impression that , now , Pete owned Cannon 
100% !!!!!!!!! ( Thus...obviously...whoever he left it 
too...presumably the son quoted . I've had to hurry through writing , 
and reading , this , so...Whatever contract/pay-off , in other 
words , he made in 1987 might've been superseded by his later 
acquisition of P. C. U. , I'm wondering ??? ) 

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, atomjla@a... wrote:
> (From: http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13 )
> 
> THUNDERBLOCKED
> 
> Fred Hembeck has been writing about another DC project, hidden away 
in the 
> drawers. In searching for the Secret Origins sequence for Charlton 
superhero 
> Thunderbolt by creator Pete Morasi, unpublished due to Secret 
Origins being 
> cancelled, he made a discovery. 
> Pete's son Val e-mailed Fred with the news that his dad also wrote 
and drew a 
> complete 19 page story in 1987, that was abandoned in favour of an 
inhouse 
> revival of the character that was then cancelled. 
> Val owns the entire story, but his dad scribbled on the 
envelope, "Not to be 
> printed or sold, per DC contract," and he doesn't know what to do 
and he'd 
> like to get it into print somehow. 
> If you think you can help, or would like to know more, go here and 
scroll 
> down to January 21st. 
> 
> 
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I think that's largely correct. Morisi had a deal of sorts with DC 
for a time, but then things sort of fell apart leaving T-Bolt in 
limbo for a time. Now I think it's largely accepted that PAM retained 
the rights to Thunderbolt and DC's use of the character was with his 
permission or should have been. 

Dean


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Was Graves a bearded occult detective who had a series in the 70's or 
am I thinking of another hero-possibly from Golden Key/Dell comics?




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Dr.M.(Milo)T.(Tempus)Graves was indeed a ghost host for Charlton. I 
believe he was the brainchild of Steve Skeates who scripted all of 
the early stories in the book "The Many Ghosts of Dr.Graves". 
Rendered by nearly all the ususal Charlton artists at one time or 
other, the typically handsome and bearded Graves told ghostly tales 
and also functioned as a ghostbuster from time to time. The title 
last through most of the 70's and into the 80's for an issue or two, 
giving up the ghost (so to speak) only when Charlton itself finally 
collapsed. The early Skeates written stuff is highly sought after by 
Charlton fans...or at least by this one.

Graves is my favorite Charlton ghost host with the exception of 
Mr.Dedd from "Ghostly Tales".

Dean


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Thanks. Seeing his image brought back my memory. I think the guy I 
was recalling might have been called Adam Specktor? 


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Here's one of those trivial tales that only a true comic fan could 
appreciate:
     I've been a huge horror comic fan ever since early childhood.  
Once, during a trip up North w/ my family, we took the small motor 
boat out to a country-style fishing and tackle store. This area was 
(by modern standards) quite isolated and certainly one of the LAST 
places you would expect to find even top selling comics.  Upon 
flipping through a small stack of comics on sale at the store, lo and 
behold, yours truly came across a (then) recent issue of Beyond the 
Grave!  (I believe it had ceased publication a few years previous)
     That just goes to prove that you can find 'gems' almost anywhere 
if you're lucky! ;)
     



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Dear All
I'm a Charlton collector - specifically Blue Beetle / Ditko items. My=20
key wants are Nature Boy 3, 4 and 5 and the Charlton Bullseye=20
Special - which I still believe to exist! Anyone have them for sale?

I've recently upgraded my copies of the CPL/Gang Charlton Bullseye 1=20
to 5 and the very rare Portfolio - so I'm selling my existing mid-
grades copies on eBay now - If anyone's interested - they're for sale=20
in one set starting at =A314.99.

Bought All Stars 1 at the last London Mart - it's got a great Ditko=20
Captain Atom v dinosaur cover!

I've also nearly finished collecting all the 1984 to 1986 end of run=20
issues. The Static issues (Charlton Action 11 and 12) are great!

regards
Ewan





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Hi Ewan,

I have all five Charlton Bullseye (first series, fanzines) and also the rar=
e Charlton Portfolio # 1, whose real name is CPL # Double Issue 9/-10. Look=
 at the indicia page inside. Charlton Portfolio was basically the theme of =
CPL Double Issue # 9/-10.

Me, I also collect CPL (all of which are MUCH rarer than the Charlton Bulls=
eye five issues of that fanzine and CPL # 9/-10. EG: As rare as CPL # 9/-10=
 is, all other issue are far rarer still.

I have some info for you: According to many of Bob Overstreet's Ten Officia=
l Advisers to The Comic Book Price Guide, Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1,2 =
were prepared and never published. I have been searching for both issues si=
nce their publication. NOT ONE PERSON who writes in to the O.P.G, fans, col=
lectors, Advisers, tons of enquiries on the internet, etc,etc,etc---has tur=
ned up a single copy of either. Further: even the creators of them: artists=
, writers, say they were not published. Charlton decided not to publish eit=
her when they sold the rights to those characters.

The internet myth is that Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 was published, # 2 =
was not. This is a myth. Neither exists. The entry for both in the O.P.G fo=
r both is an INTENTIONAL ERROR on Bob Overstreet's part. If you don't know =
why he did this, email me or ask the group, and I will let you know. I am s=
uspecting you know why-?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada



hannahbrownlow <hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Dear All
I'm a Charlton collector - specifically Blue Beetle / Ditko items. My=20
key wants are Nature Boy 3, 4 and 5 and the Charlton Bullseye=20
Special - which I still believe to exist! Anyone have them for sale?

I've recently upgraded my copies of the CPL/Gang Charlton Bullseye 1=20
to 5 and the very rare Portfolio - so I'm selling my existing mid-
grades copies on eBay now - If anyone's interested - they're for sale=20
in one set starting at =A314.99.

Bought All Stars 1 at the last London Mart - it's got a great Ditko=20
Captain Atom v dinosaur cover!

I've also nearly finished collecting all the 1984 to 1986 end of run=20
issues. The Static issues (Charlton Action 11 and 12) are great!

regards
Ewan






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Phil,
Even after e-mailing me to ask me why I thought the Special No. 1=20
exists, you still send this message to the group saying Charlton=20
Bullseye Special No. 1's existence is a myth. I am an Overstreet Price=20
Guide advisor and I'm saying that from my information, from T.C. Ford,=20
the editor of the book who put it together, and from an interview in=20
Comic Book Artist, that it's still not proven that Charlton Bullseye=20
Special No. 1 does not exist.
I'd like to say it doesn't exist, because then I'd end my long-running=20
search for the book. Still, it is NOT PROVEN that it doesn't exist.=20
And when exactly did you speak with ALL 10 of the "official advisors?"=20
I'm curious as to who the "official" advisors are, since you spoke=20
with me, an advisor, and I told you that Ford did indeed say the book=20
had been published.
Check Comic Book Artist's Charlton issues to see what he said about=20
it. He said it had been published, but he had never received a copy of=20
the book.
Mike Browning

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Ewan,
>=20
> I have all five Charlton Bullseye (first series, fanzines) and also=20
the rare Charlton Portfolio # 1, whose real name is CPL # Double Issue=20
9/-10. Look at the indicia page inside. Charlton Portfolio was=20
basically the theme of CPL Double Issue # 9/-10.
>=20
> Me, I also collect CPL (all of which are MUCH rarer than the=20
Charlton Bullseye five issues of that fanzine and CPL # 9/-10. EG: As=20
rare as CPL # 9/-10 is, all other issue are far rarer still.
>=20
> I have some info for you: According to many of Bob Overstreet's Ten=20
Official Advisers to The Comic Book Price Guide, Charlton Bullseye=20
Specials # 1,2 were prepared and never published. I have been=20
searching for both issues since their publication. NOT ONE PERSON who=20
writes in to the O.P.G, fans, collectors, Advisers, tons of enquiries=20
on the internet, etc,etc,etc---has turned up a single copy of either.=20
Further: even the creators of them: artists, writers, say they were=20
not published. Charlton decided not to publish either when they sold=20
the rights to those characters.
>=20
> The internet myth is that Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 was=20
published, # 2 was not. This is a myth. Neither exists. The entry for=20
both in the O.P.G for both is an INTENTIONAL ERROR on Bob Overstreet's=20
part. If you don't know why he did this, email me or ask the group,=20
and I will let you know. I am suspecting you know why-?
>=20
> Best Wishes,
>=20
> Phil Latter
>=20
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>=20
> Canada
>=20
>=20
>=20
> hannahbrownlow <hannahbrownlow@y...> wrote: Dear All
> I'm a Charlton collector - specifically Blue Beetle / Ditko items.=20
My=20
> key wants are Nature Boy 3, 4 and 5 and the Charlton Bullseye=20
> Special - which I still believe to exist! Anyone have them for sale?
>=20
> I've recently upgraded my copies of the CPL/Gang Charlton Bullseye 1=20
> to 5 and the very rare Portfolio - so I'm selling my existing mid-
> grades copies on eBay now - If anyone's interested - they're for=20
sale=20
> in one set starting at =A314.99.
>=20
> Bought All Stars 1 at the last London Mart - it's got a great Ditko=20
> Captain Atom v dinosaur cover!
>=20
> I've also nearly finished collecting all the 1984 to 1986 end of run=20
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> regards
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Hi Mike,

I seem to have offended you. Please believe me when I tell you that this was not my intention. The last thing I wanted (or still want) is to unintentionally get on the wrong side of you. I'll explain. I didn't say that I talked to all ten of the Senior Overstreet Advisers about the Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1, 2. I said I spoke to many of them; kindly see my earlier post still attached below. You'll see that is correct. I guess it depends on what one considers to be many: I spoke with three of them over the past year. I also spoke to you. And I sincerely do appreciate the feedback you gave me, still. I wanted to find those Specials. I still would like to.

I still find the information that you told me very intriguing. I even printed off and kept that email. I still have it. See the still attached note below that I sent earlier. EG: I didn't say I spoke to all ten Senior Advisers. 

I spoke to three of them over the past year, about that matter. And of course, you yourself. While I don't believe they exist, I of course don't have concrete proof that they don't. Maybe, truthfully, I am finally at the point where I don't want to believe they exist. I am tired of these Snipe hunts for books that probably don't exist. I'll bet you are, too. It sounds like it. Who would want to spend a lot of time seeking issues listed as existing, when maybe don't-? Probably noone.

Here is another example among many others: Deluxe Comics' Tales of Thunder, a Thunder Agents one-shot that I hunted for, for a long time, then had numerous dealers and ONE Senior Overstreet Adviser tell me he strongly believes that it does not exist. Suffice to say, I  have yakked with  thousands of people on the internet over the years, in numerous groups, including lots of collectors of Thunder Agents on the internet over the years. Not one has turned a copy of that book up, either. Even the Official Thunder Agents website believes Deluxe Comics Tales of Thunder # 1 does not exist. Were you to post back to me that, "Phil, it does exist and I have a copy in my hand", I would be very pleased-!

Does this mean Tales of Thunder does not exist-? No, I suppose it doesn't definitively mean that. Believe it or not, when I sent my earlier post that "Charlton Bullseye Special # 1,2 do not exist"...I was trying to help. I didn't want folks wasting all the time I did looking for books I (felt) don't exist. Because to do so (at least to me) is an unsatisfying experience. When I mentioned there is a rumour that # 1 exists and # 2 doesn't, it is true that you were my source for that, but I did not name you. To do so would have been to insult you. And that was not my intention at all. Who knows-? You may be right. I may be wrong. 

I suppose really, noone can say "concretely" a book doesn't exist. I guess it just seems to me that, if noone turned up a copy of either of the Charlton Bullseye Specials by now....will one ever, especially since the artists and writers who worked on them say that they are disappointed that they,too, have never seen a copy of either published. (?)

By the way, I read the same Comic Book Artist issue on those Charlton Bullseye Specials that you did. I found them very interesting. 

I would think that if the artists and writers haven't even seen them published, then....has anyone-? I actually put the names of the four Overstreet Advisers I spoke to on this matter, in this post, then deleted them before I sent this post; I don't want to name folks and possibly cause them some trouble, when they were trying to give me some info I had requested in my search, to help me.

Part of the problem is that Bob Overstreet continues to list them in the O.P.G. I have been told that there are lots of "intentional errors" in the O.P.G. for the following reason: once competing comic book price guides copy info pretty-well word from the O.P.G., Bob will be in the position to sue them, since he himself will know that the information that they reprinted (in his price guide)---was intentionally false to begin with. A baited hook, if you will.

In reference to Charlton Bullseye Spotlight # 1,2: if someone were ever to turn up a copy of either, I think it would be better than the both of us NEVER knowing for a fact as to whether they exist or not. The only one who (according to rumours) knows for sure, possibly, is Robert M. Overstreet himself, and he is not talking. Nor is this intended to say anything negative about Bob. I have a lot of respect for him. He has the right to protect his copyright. My next question to anyone would be: ARE the many errors in the O.P.G. intentional, or is THAT just a rumour-? I am hoping they are not intentional, as I do not agree with putting intentional errors in an expensive publication with the mindset of protecting a copyright. This tends to send fans and collectors on endless "Snipe Hunts" for items, many of which many not exist.

All this said, I sincerely hope that the gentleman who told you he had, at one time, a copy of a Charlton Bullseye Special was not mistaken. I like reading in the O.P.G. the odd time about the newly discovered existence of comics previously unknown to exist.

Remember back several years ago, when we read in the O.P.G. the newly-discovered existence of Flash Comics # 1 and Thunder Comics # 1 (pre-Whiz # 2 appearances of the Fawcett Captain Marvel)-? Didn't that make exciting reading-?

I extend my hand to you in friendship. I am sorry I offended you.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Canada

 



greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Phil,
Even after e-mailing me to ask me why I thought the Special No. 1 
exists, you still send this message to the group saying Charlton 
Bullseye Special No. 1's existence is a myth. I am an Overstreet Price 
Guide advisor and I'm saying that from my information, from T.C. Ford, 
the editor of the book who put it together, and from an interview in 
Comic Book Artist, that it's still not proven that Charlton Bullseye 
Special No. 1 does not exist.
I'd like to say it doesn't exist, because then I'd end my long-running 
search for the book. Still, it is NOT PROVEN that it doesn't exist. 
And when exactly did you speak with ALL 10 of the "official advisors?" 
I'm curious as to who the "official" advisors are, since you spoke 
with me, an advisor, and I told you that Ford did indeed say the book 
had been published.
Check Comic Book Artist's Charlton issues to see what he said about 
it. He said it had been published, but he had never received a copy of 
the book.
Mike Browning

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ewan,
> 
> I have all five Charlton Bullseye (first series, fanzines) and also 
the rare Charlton Portfolio # 1, whose real name is CPL # Double Issue 
9/-10. Look at the indicia page inside. Charlton Portfolio was 
basically the theme of CPL Double Issue # 9/-10.
> 
> Me, I also collect CPL (all of which are MUCH rarer than the 
Charlton Bullseye five issues of that fanzine and CPL # 9/-10. EG: As 
rare as CPL # 9/-10 is, all other issue are far rarer still.
> 
> I have some info for you: According to many of Bob Overstreet's Ten 
Official Advisers to The Comic Book Price Guide, Charlton Bullseye 
Specials # 1,2 were prepared and never published. I have been 
searching for both issues since their publication. NOT ONE PERSON who 
writes in to the O.P.G, fans, collectors, Advisers, tons of enquiries 
on the internet, etc,etc,etc---has turned up a single copy of either. 
Further: even the creators of them: artists, writers, say they were 
not published. Charlton decided not to publish either when they sold 
the rights to those characters.
> 
> The internet myth is that Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 was 
published, # 2 was not. This is a myth. Neither exists. The entry for 
both in the O.P.G for both is an INTENTIONAL ERROR on Bob Overstreet's 
part. If you don't know why he did this, email me or ask the group, 
and I will let you know. I am suspecting you know why-?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> 
> Canada




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Mike, Phil
oops - sorry to have generated a bit of a heated discussion there - I 
said I wasn't convinced it didn't exist purely becasuse no-one has 
yet proved it hasn't (if that makes sense)
The CBA article - complete with a cover repo - and comments that a 
small number WERE published does suggests some element of truth. 
Also the Overstreet reference seems a little too PRECISE to be a 
copyright trap - I quote, 

"Special 1,2: 1(11/86) (Half in B&W). 2 - Atomic Mouse app. (1987)
(exist?)

Why would Bob say "Half in B&W" ? That suggests he's seen one - or he 
has got a strangely keen sense of imagination for, what is in the 
scheme of things, a reletively low-interest obscure modern book.

Perhaps if there were as many Charlton collectors as there were say 
Marvel ones, the book would've surfaced by now.

The evidence against is the publication date - the last Charltons 
were Feb 1986 - why would they suddenly publish 9 months later?

Anyway, we may never know.
While we're on the subject of rare Charltons - what do you guys feel 
are the other really rare books?
I got the 1st series of Bullseye and the portfolio pretty easily - in 
fact, as I said, am now selling my lower graded copies off.

I've been looking for Space Adventures 14 for ages - plus the three 
Nature Boy issues.

cheers
Ewan




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> Hi Mike,
> 
> I seem to have offended you. Please believe me when I tell you that 
this was not my intention. The last thing I wanted (or still want) is 
to unintentionally get on the wrong side of you. I'll explain. I 
didn't say that I talked to all ten of the Senior Overstreet Advisers 
about the Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1, 2. I said I spoke to many 
of them; kindly see my earlier post still attached below. You'll see 
that is correct. I guess it depends on what one considers to be many: 
I spoke with three of them over the past year. I also spoke to you. 
And I sincerely do appreciate the feedback you gave me, still. I 
wanted to find those Specials. I still would like to.
> 
> I still find the information that you told me very intriguing. I 
even printed off and kept that email. I still have it. See the still 
attached note below that I sent earlier. EG: I didn't say I spoke to 
all ten Senior Advisers. 
> 
> I spoke to three of them over the past year, about that matter. And 
of course, you yourself. While I don't believe they exist, I of 
course don't have concrete proof that they don't. Maybe, truthfully, 
I am finally at the point where I don't want to believe they exist. I 
am tired of these Snipe hunts for books that probably don't exist. 
I'll bet you are, too. It sounds like it. Who would want to spend a 
lot of time seeking issues listed as existing, when maybe don't-? 
Probably noone.
> 
> Here is another example among many others: Deluxe Comics' Tales of 
Thunder, a Thunder Agents one-shot that I hunted for, for a long 
time, then had numerous dealers and ONE Senior Overstreet Adviser 
tell me he strongly believes that it does not exist. Suffice to say, 
I  have yakked with  thousands of people on the internet over the 
years, in numerous groups, including lots of collectors of Thunder 
Agents on the internet over the years. Not one has turned a copy of 
that book up, either. Even the Official Thunder Agents website 
believes Deluxe Comics Tales of Thunder # 1 does not exist. Were you 
to post back to me that, "Phil, it does exist and I have a copy in my 
hand", I would be very pleased-!
> 
> Does this mean Tales of Thunder does not exist-? No, I suppose it 
doesn't definitively mean that. Believe it or not, when I sent my 
earlier post that "Charlton Bullseye Special # 1,2 do not exist"...I 
was trying to help. I didn't want folks wasting all the time I did 
looking for books I (felt) don't exist. Because to do so (at least to 
me) is an unsatisfying experience. When I mentioned there is a rumour 
that # 1 exists and # 2 doesn't, it is true that you were my source 
for that, but I did not name you. To do so would have been to insult 
you. And that was not my intention at all. Who knows-? You may be 
right. I may be wrong. 
> 
> I suppose really, noone can say "concretely" a book doesn't exist. 
I guess it just seems to me that, if noone turned up a copy of either 
of the Charlton Bullseye Specials by now....will one ever, especially 
since the artists and writers who worked on them say that they are 
disappointed that they,too, have never seen a copy of either 
published. (?)
> 
> By the way, I read the same Comic Book Artist issue on those 
Charlton Bullseye Specials that you did. I found them very 
interesting. 
> 
> I would think that if the artists and writers haven't even seen 
them published, then....has anyone-? I actually put the names of the 
four Overstreet Advisers I spoke to on this matter, in this post, 
then deleted them before I sent this post; I don't want to name folks 
and possibly cause them some trouble, when they were trying to give 
me some info I had requested in my search, to help me.
> 
> Part of the problem is that Bob Overstreet continues to list them 
in the O.P.G. I have been told that there are lots of "intentional 
errors" in the O.P.G. for the following reason: once competing comic 
book price guides copy info pretty-well word from the O.P.G., Bob 
will be in the position to sue them, since he himself will know that 
the information that they reprinted (in his price guide)---was 
intentionally false to begin with. A baited hook, if you will.
> 
> In reference to Charlton Bullseye Spotlight # 1,2: if someone were 
ever to turn up a copy of either, I think it would be better than the 
both of us NEVER knowing for a fact as to whether they exist or not. 
The only one who (according to rumours) knows for sure, possibly, is 
Robert M. Overstreet himself, and he is not talking. Nor is this 
intended to say anything negative about Bob. I have a lot of respect 
for him. He has the right to protect his copyright. My next question 
to anyone would be: ARE the many errors in the O.P.G. intentional, or 
is THAT just a rumour-? I am hoping they are not intentional, as I do 
not agree with putting intentional errors in an expensive publication 
with the mindset of protecting a copyright. This tends to send fans 
and collectors on endless "Snipe Hunts" for items, many of which many 
not exist.
> 
> All this said, I sincerely hope that the gentleman who told you he 
had, at one time, a copy of a Charlton Bullseye Special was not 
mistaken. I like reading in the O.P.G. the odd time about the newly 
discovered existence of comics previously unknown to exist.
> 
> Remember back several years ago, when we read in the O.P.G. the 
newly-discovered existence of Flash Comics # 1 and Thunder Comics # 1 
(pre-Whiz # 2 appearances of the Fawcett Captain Marvel)-? Didn't 
that make exciting reading-?
> 
> I extend my hand to you in friendship. I am sorry I offended you.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> 
> Canada
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Phil,
> Even after e-mailing me to ask me why I thought the Special No. 1 
> exists, you still send this message to the group saying Charlton 
> Bullseye Special No. 1's existence is a myth. I am an Overstreet 
Price 
> Guide advisor and I'm saying that from my information, from T.C. 
Ford, 
> the editor of the book who put it together, and from an interview 
in 
> Comic Book Artist, that it's still not proven that Charlton 
Bullseye 
> Special No. 1 does not exist.
> I'd like to say it doesn't exist, because then I'd end my long-
running 
> search for the book. Still, it is NOT PROVEN that it doesn't exist. 
> And when exactly did you speak with ALL 10 of the "official 
advisors?" 
> I'm curious as to who the "official" advisors are, since you spoke 
> with me, an advisor, and I told you that Ford did indeed say the 
book 
> had been published.
> Check Comic Book Artist's Charlton issues to see what he said about 
> it. He said it had been published, but he had never received a copy 
of 
> the book.
> Mike Browning
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
> <chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ewan,
> > 
> > I have all five Charlton Bullseye (first series, fanzines) and 
also 
> the rare Charlton Portfolio # 1, whose real name is CPL # Double 
Issue 
> 9/-10. Look at the indicia page inside. Charlton Portfolio was 
> basically the theme of CPL Double Issue # 9/-10.
> > 
> > Me, I also collect CPL (all of which are MUCH rarer than the 
> Charlton Bullseye five issues of that fanzine and CPL # 9/-10. EG: 
As 
> rare as CPL # 9/-10 is, all other issue are far rarer still.
> > 
> > I have some info for you: According to many of Bob Overstreet's 
Ten 
> Official Advisers to The Comic Book Price Guide, Charlton Bullseye 
> Specials # 1,2 were prepared and never published. I have been 
> searching for both issues since their publication. NOT ONE PERSON 
who 
> writes in to the O.P.G, fans, collectors, Advisers, tons of 
enquiries 
> on the internet, etc,etc,etc---has turned up a single copy of 
either. 
> Further: even the creators of them: artists, writers, say they were 
> not published. Charlton decided not to publish either when they 
sold 
> the rights to those characters.
> > 
> > The internet myth is that Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 was 
> published, # 2 was not. This is a myth. Neither exists. The entry 
for 
> both in the O.P.G for both is an INTENTIONAL ERROR on Bob 
Overstreet's 
> part. If you don't know why he did this, email me or ask the group, 
> and I will let you know. I am suspecting you know why-?
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > 
> > Phil Latter
> > 
> > Halifax, Nova Scotia
> > 
> > Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Ewan, Mike,

Well, hopefully Mike realized (once I sent the reply) that I meant no harm. And, y'know what-? That info, "half in black and white" does to tend to indicate that it was published. If I am wrong I am happy to eat my words. I was thinking last night that if either were published, likely in VERY limited numbers.

Ewan, do you collect CPL also-? I have about 5 of them. A lot of people like John Byrne, etc,etc, got their start in those. Exceedingly difficult to find.

Best,

Phil Latter

Canada
E

E
hannahbrownlow <hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Mike, Phil
oops - sorry to have generated a bit of a heated discussion there - I 
said I wasn't convinced it didn't exist purely becasuse no-one has 
yet proved it hasn't (if that makes sense)
The CBA article - complete with a cover repo - and comments that a 
small number WERE published does suggests some element of truth. 
Also the Overstreet reference seems a little too PRECISE to be a 
copyright trap - I quote, 

"Special 1,2: 1(11/86) (Half in B&W). 2 - Atomic Mouse app. (1987)
(exist?)

Why would Bob say "Half in B&W" ? That suggests he's seen one - or he 
has got a strangely keen sense of imagination for, what is in the 
scheme of things, a reletively low-interest obscure modern book.

Perhaps if there were as many Charlton collectors as there were say 
Marvel ones, the book would've surfaced by now.

The evidence against is the publication date - the last Charltons 
were Feb 1986 - why would they suddenly publish 9 months later?

Anyway, we may never know.
While we're on the subject of rare Charltons - what do you guys feel 
are the other really rare books?
I got the 1st series of Bullseye and the portfolio pretty easily - in 
fact, as I said, am now selling my lower graded copies off.

I've been looking for Space Adventures 14 for ages - plus the three 
Nature Boy issues.

cheers
Ewan




--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I seem to have offended you. Please believe me when I tell you that 
this was not my intention. The last thing I wanted (or still want) is 
to unintentionally get on the wrong side of you. I'll explain. I 
didn't say that I talked to all ten of the Senior Overstreet Advisers 
about the Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1, 2. I said I spoke to many 
of them; kindly see my earlier post still attached below. You'll see 
that is correct. I guess it depends on what one considers to be many: 
I spoke with three of them over the past year. I also spoke to you. 
And I sincerely do appreciate the feedback you gave me, still. I 
wanted to find those Specials. I still would like to.
> 
> I still find the information that you told me very intriguing. I 
even printed off and kept that email. I still have it. See the still 
attached note below that I sent earlier. EG: I didn't say I spoke to 
all ten Senior Advisers. 
> 
> I spoke to three of them over the past year, about that matter. And 
of course, you yourself. While I don't believe they exist, I of 
course don't have concrete proof that they don't. Maybe, truthfully, 
I am finally at the point where I don't want to believe they exist. I 
am tired of these Snipe hunts for books that probably don't exist. 
I'll bet you are, too. It sounds like it. Who would want to spend a 
lot of time seeking issues listed as existing, when maybe don't-? 
Probably noone.
> 
> Here is another example among many others: Deluxe Comics' Tales of 
Thunder, a Thunder Agents one-shot that I hunted for, for a long 
time, then had numerous dealers and ONE Senior Overstreet Adviser 
tell me he strongly believes that it does not exist. Suffice to say, 
I  have yakked with  thousands of people on the internet over the 
years, in numerous groups, including lots of collectors of Thunder 
Agents on the internet over the years. Not one has turned a copy of 
that book up, either. Even the Official Thunder Agents website 
believes Deluxe Comics Tales of Thunder # 1 does not exist. Were you 
to post back to me that, "Phil, it does exist and I have a copy in my 
hand", I would be very pleased-!
> 
> Does this mean Tales of Thunder does not exist-? No, I suppose it 
doesn't definitively mean that. Believe it or not, when I sent my 
earlier post that "Charlton Bullseye Special # 1,2 do not exist"...I 
was trying to help. I didn't want folks wasting all the time I did 
looking for books I (felt) don't exist. Because to do so (at least to 
me) is an unsatisfying experience. When I mentioned there is a rumour 
that # 1 exists and # 2 doesn't, it is true that you were my source 
for that, but I did not name you. To do so would have been to insult 
you. And that was not my intention at all. Who knows-? You may be 
right. I may be wrong. 
> 
> I suppose really, noone can say "concretely" a book doesn't exist. 
I guess it just seems to me that, if noone turned up a copy of either 
of the Charlton Bullseye Specials by now....will one ever, especially 
since the artists and writers who worked on them say that they are 
disappointed that they,too, have never seen a copy of either 
published. (?)
> 
> By the way, I read the same Comic Book Artist issue on those 
Charlton Bullseye Specials that you did. I found them very 
interesting. 
> 
> I would think that if the artists and writers haven't even seen 
them published, then....has anyone-? I actually put the names of the 
four Overstreet Advisers I spoke to on this matter, in this post, 
then deleted them before I sent this post; I don't want to name folks 
and possibly cause them some trouble, when they were trying to give 
me some info I had requested in my search, to help me.
> 
> Part of the problem is that Bob Overstreet continues to list them 
in the O.P.G. I have been told that there are lots of "intentional 
errors" in the O.P.G. for the following reason: once competing comic 
book price guides copy info pretty-well word from the O.P.G., Bob 
will be in the position to sue them, since he himself will know that 
the information that they reprinted (in his price guide)---was 
intentionally false to begin with. A baited hook, if you will.
> 
> In reference to Charlton Bullseye Spotlight # 1,2: if someone were 
ever to turn up a copy of either, I think it would be better than the 
both of us NEVER knowing for a fact as to whether they exist or not. 
The only one who (according to rumours) knows for sure, possibly, is 
Robert M. Overstreet himself, and he is not talking. Nor is this 
intended to say anything negative about Bob. I have a lot of respect 
for him. He has the right to protect his copyright. My next question 
to anyone would be: ARE the many errors in the O.P.G. intentional, or 
is THAT just a rumour-? I am hoping they are not intentional, as I do 
not agree with putting intentional errors in an expensive publication 
with the mindset of protecting a copyright. This tends to send fans 
and collectors on endless "Snipe Hunts" for items, many of which many 
not exist.
> 
> All this said, I sincerely hope that the gentleman who told you he 
had, at one time, a copy of a Charlton Bullseye Special was not 
mistaken. I like reading in the O.P.G. the odd time about the newly 
discovered existence of comics previously unknown to exist.
> 
> Remember back several years ago, when we read in the O.P.G. the 
newly-discovered existence of Flash Comics # 1 and Thunder Comics # 1 
(pre-Whiz # 2 appearances of the Fawcett Captain Marvel)-? Didn't 
that make exciting reading-?
> 
> I extend my hand to you in friendship. I am sorry I offended you.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> 
> Canada
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Phil,
> Even after e-mailing me to ask me why I thought the Special No. 1 
> exists, you still send this message to the group saying Charlton 
> Bullseye Special No. 1's existence is a myth. I am an Overstreet 
Price 
> Guide advisor and I'm saying that from my information, from T.C. 
Ford, 
> the editor of the book who put it together, and from an interview 
in 
> Comic Book Artist, that it's still not proven that Charlton 
Bullseye 
> Special No. 1 does not exist.
> I'd like to say it doesn't exist, because then I'd end my long-
running 
> search for the book. Still, it is NOT PROVEN that it doesn't exist. 
> And when exactly did you speak with ALL 10 of the "official 
advisors?" 
> I'm curious as to who the "official" advisors are, since you spoke 
> with me, an advisor, and I told you that Ford did indeed say the 
book 
> had been published.
> Check Comic Book Artist's Charlton issues to see what he said about 
> it. He said it had been published, but he had never received a copy 
of 
> the book.
> Mike Browning
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
> <chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ewan,
> > 
> > I have all five Charlton Bullseye (first series, fanzines) and 
also 
> the rare Charlton Portfolio # 1, whose real name is CPL # Double 
Issue 
> 9/-10. Look at the indicia page inside. Charlton Portfolio was 
> basically the theme of CPL Double Issue # 9/-10.
> > 
> > Me, I also collect CPL (all of which are MUCH rarer than the 
> Charlton Bullseye five issues of that fanzine and CPL # 9/-10. EG: 
As 
> rare as CPL # 9/-10 is, all other issue are far rarer still.
> > 
> > I have some info for you: According to many of Bob Overstreet's 
Ten 
> Official Advisers to The Comic Book Price Guide, Charlton Bullseye 
> Specials # 1,2 were prepared and never published. I have been 
> searching for both issues since their publication. NOT ONE PERSON 
who 
> writes in to the O.P.G, fans, collectors, Advisers, tons of 
enquiries 
> on the internet, etc,etc,etc---has turned up a single copy of 
either. 
> Further: even the creators of them: artists, writers, say they were 
> not published. Charlton decided not to publish either when they 
sold 
> the rights to those characters.
> > 
> > The internet myth is that Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 was 
> published, # 2 was not. This is a myth. Neither exists. The entry 
for 
> both in the O.P.G for both is an INTENTIONAL ERROR on Bob 
Overstreet's 
> part. If you don't know why he did this, email me or ask the group, 
> and I will let you know. I am suspecting you know why-?
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > 
> > Phil Latter
> > 
> > Halifax, Nova Scotia
> > 
> > Canada




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Regarding Space Adventures, I have # 33 (first appearand of Captain Atom) up, all issues containing Captain Atom only. I also have all his appearances in Strange Suspense Stories and his own Charlton title, plus the DC one, and the ones AC Comics put out, etc. What is in # 14-?

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I'm a collector of anything Blue Beetle related, and Space Adventures 
14 is the second issue to reprint Golden Age stories - problem is 
it's extremely rare - and I've never seen one for sale anywhere. 
Number 13 seems to be pretty common and I bought a 9.4 copy a couple 
of years ago - beautiful book.
I've nearly managed to get all the 50's appearances - but Nature Boy 
is proving very difficult too.
The CPL issues - yes I keep an eye out for them but they're very rare 
as you say.

To ask again, does anyone know what the other really rare Chartlton's 
are? Fancy a further challenge!




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> Regarding Space Adventures, I have # 33 (first appearand of Captain 
Atom) up, all issues containing Captain Atom only. I also have all 
his appearances in Strange Suspense Stories and his own Charlton 
title, plus the DC one, and the ones AC Comics put out, etc. What is 
in # 14-?
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> Canada
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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I am a big fan of Blue Beetle as well. I have the 1960's Blue Beetle, both the Ted Kord ones and the Dan Garrett ones. But I don't have any from the 1940's or 1950's. I didn't know about Space Adventures # 14. Thanks for the info-! Do you have any CPLs other than The Charlton Portfolio-?

Best,

Phil Latter

Canada

hannahbrownlow <hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: I'm a collector of anything Blue Beetle related, and Space Adventures 
14 is the second issue to reprint Golden Age stories - problem is 
it's extremely rare - and I've never seen one for sale anywhere. 
Number 13 seems to be pretty common and I bought a 9.4 copy a couple 
of years ago - beautiful book.
I've nearly managed to get all the 50's appearances - but Nature Boy 
is proving very difficult too.
The CPL issues - yes I keep an eye out for them but they're very rare 
as you say.

To ask again, does anyone know what the other really rare Chartlton's 
are? Fancy a further challenge!








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Apologies for the mass e-mail -- I hope this isn't
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Hi Doc,
I accidentally deleted your email. Sorry about that. Please private 
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Here's a link to a great article on the late, great Pat Boyette:

http://www.comicartville.com/mangusboyette.htm

Enjoy!

Dean


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Here's a link to a great Jack Keller article:

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Thanks for a great link there, if anyone wants to see a great 
example of Pats work they should check out his 'Spookman' story 
presantly on view at- 
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i'm sure you won't be dissapointed.                  - Phabox.



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The third issue of the excellent fanzine is now out and available. 
Here's a link:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/

Enjoy!

Dean


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I've been distracted by various and sundry in the last several months 
and I've neglected to get #2 of the great fanzine. I'm going to 
correct that today, along with ordering #3. These look to be great 
packages for all Charlton fans.

Dean


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Thanks Dean Im going to order that one.
 
Kendra

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
The third issue of the excellent fanzine is now out and available. 
Here's a link:

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Enjoy!

Dean


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Having attributed an interview with Henry Scarpelli, I received my 
complimentary contributers issues a day or so ago. And I must say, Mike 
Ambrose really outdid himself there! From the front cover to the back, the 
improvement over the two previous issues is outstanding. Mike took his time 
to get this issue out, but it was definately worth the wait!

I do so wish that Mike would be able to bring out more issues a year! I am 
reminded of the efforts of other fanzine-turned prozine editors, such as Jon 
Morrow and the editor of Comic Book Artist (another Jon - was the name Jon 
Cooke?), who slowly managed to make a daytime job out of their magazines and 
other publications.

I would give my right arm to have CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT available on a monthly 
or bi-monthly or even just a quarterly basis. But the only way of 
accomplishing that is to get the circulation up; by all buying each and 
every issue of CS and spreading the news to all our buddies who share our 
interest.

So, if you even have a slight interest in all things Charlton or just the 
history of comic books, order an issue of CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT from Mike 
Ambrose. (Better yet, order a copy of #2 as well, supplies are rapidly 
running out!)

You can contact him at mikeargo@flash.net or you can visit the website, 
http://www.charltonspotlight.com for more info and some preview pages of the 
mag.

End of shameless plug.

All the best,
Ramon

>From: kendra stewart <wonkas2003@yahoo.ca>
>Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Spotlight #3 OUT!
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:04:59 -0500 (EST)
>
>Thanks Dean Im going to order that one.
>
>Kendra
>
>Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
>The third issue of the excellent fanzine is now out and available.
>Here's a link:
>
>http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Dean

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Hi,

     After too long a delay, E-Man is updated with a new story 
review.

Rome
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Got it yesterday! It's a great package, filled with interviews and 
wonderful Tom Sutton artwork. .The work Sutton did for Charlton 
during the early 70's is among the best ever to appear anywhere. The 
painted covers were dynamic and made Charlton's "weird" comics really 
jump off the stands. Tom Sutton drew the way Lovecraft wrote. Both 
were able to present the modern world as if it were a veneer under 
which was another world--ancient, decaying, and bizarre and just on 
the edge of our knowledge. 

I first ran across Tom Sutton's work in Eerie #28, the same place I 
first encountered Pat Boyette by the way. Soon I came to know 
Sutton's work from Marvel's Not Brand Ecchh and Captain Marvel (my 
favorite superhero of the time). To be honest I didn't care much for 
Sutton's linework on superheroes, but I do well recall admiring his 
inks on the work of Gil Kane and others. Then I came across his 
Charlton work, and Tom Sutton became a mainstay of my collecting. His 
work was distinctive, interesting, and professional. All three of 
those is not something all of Charlton's artists of the time could 
claim. I lost track of Sutton after his Charlton days as he spent his 
time working for DC. But I still cherish my copy of Schlomo Raven, a 
masterpiece of comic art.

Charlton Spotlight #3 is a great fanzine! Get it!

Dean


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ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC

* A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE ADVENTURES #33-42 and
CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966

* Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art by Ditko,
Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin

* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price of $49.95
U.S.

_______________________________________________________________________________
                                                                 Mikel Midnight
"You will die, sir, either on the gallows or from the
pox." (John Montagu, fourth Earl of Sandwich)
"That depends, sir, on whether I embrace your principles
or your mistress." (John Wilkes, sometime friend of his
and rakish member of the aristocracy)

blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net
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It will be sweet to see these stories on quality stock with quality 
printing. That classic Ditko should really pop!

Dean


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--- In Ch






...Better yt , the " Action Hero Archives " listing , most CRETAINLY 
suggests...!
  Now , DC , hozabout the Phantom Stranger , Sugar & Spike , DC's 
mystery titles ( Not just Orlando's . ) ( Oh . - And , perhaps a " 
Best Of would be better at first ! ) , the Inferior 5 , and the 60s 
Plastic Man ?!?!?!?!?!? The New Blackhawk Era , as well ?????!!!???

ltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Michael Norwitz <blaklion@b...> wrote:
> ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC
> 
> * A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE ADVENTURES #33-
42 and
> CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966
> 
> * Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art by 
Ditko,
> Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin
> 
> * Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price of 
$49.95
> U.S.
> 
> 
______________________________________________________________________
_________
>                                                                  
Mikel Midnight
> "You will die, sir, either on the gallows or from the
> pox." (John Montagu, fourth Earl of Sandwich)
> "That depends, sir, on whether I embrace your principles
> or your mistress." (John Wilkes, sometime friend of his
> and rakish member of the aristocracy)
> 
> blaklion@b...
> 
___________________________________________________http://blaklion.bes
t.vwh.net


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Check out this new Pat Boyette group. I just posted his Peacemaker story from 
Fightin' Five #40 there/


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Hi Guys, just a short note to let you know that the Second Killjoy 
story from E-Man # 4 can now be seen at - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/forgottenheroes                        
and if anyone has the FIRST Killjoy story and would like to share it 
I would be mighty glad to hear from them.                  - Phabox.


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Slightly off-topic, but someone suggested I might reach some vintage 
paperback collectors on this list, and there is the Charlton vs. Monarch and 
Gold Stars connection, so...

Hi!
As some of you may know, I am researching paperback publishers Monarch
and
Gold Star for a publication I am working on.

In my research, I have come across a number of obstacles. The main
problem
is getting access to fanzine or magazine articles. There are not a lot
about, and most people seem to want to hold on to them! Acquiring them
from
dealers is expensive in its own right, but especially so since they need
to
be shipped to Europe, where I live.

So... my reason for writing: does anyone out there have any copies of
fanzines such as Paperback Parade (especially #s 31, 34 and 35!!) or
Books
Are Everything (especially #s 3, 4, 9!!) or Collecting Paperbacks? or
any
other that they would like to sell or trade? Almost all issues and all
titles wanted, but especially those that deal with Monarch, Gold Star or
cover art(ists).

And if you don't want to sell or trade, how about making photocopies for
me?
I'd be more than willing to cover expense and more!

While I'm at it, anyone have books on paperbacks that they are willing
to
part with? I'm still looking for a fair number!

I have hundreds of duplicate paperbacks that I am more than willing to
sell
or trade, so please check out http://www.ramonschenk.nl/noncomposmentis
.

Thank you for your time and my apologies if you got this message several
times!

Best regards,
Ramon Schenk

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Bad News folks, I Run - 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/houseofhorror                         
and I have LOTS of Classic 60's Charlton Horror lined up ready to go 
including some Great work by Ditko, but heres the Sad thing, NO ONE 
WANTS TO SEE IT !!! I have a Poll running at the moment to find out 
what people want to see next and Marvel/Atlas is in the lead at 
presant but Charlton nas recieved NO VOTES AT ALL, Which is Amazing 
when you think that I have even had a couple of requests for Gold 
Key Stuff. The GOOD News is its NOT TO LATE !! The Poll still has a 
few more weeks to run so if you would like to see some Charlton 
Horror NOW is the time to make your voice heard !                   
S.G.M.



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i have in my posession a judo master 1967 meet the tiger  edition, 
where can i find out how much it is worth?

send me an email at]
pandora298@yahoo.com



pandora298



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I have all eleven Judomaster issues from the 1960's and current price guide. What issue # is it-?
 
Phil

pandora298 <pandora298@yahoo.com> wrote:
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It's #93. But someone should also ask this fella if he has the 
Charlton edition, or the Modern Comics reprint. I'm sure there's a 
difference in the value of the two.

--Eric

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That is true, Eric. I thought of that too, but just assumed he knew which edition he has, which he may.
 
O.P.G # 33 (last year's): 
 
Charton Comics Judomaster # 93, 1967.
 
GD   VG   FN   VF   VF/NM    NM
 
$3.    $7.  $10. $23.     $29.     $35.
 
Modern Comics reprint of same issue, says "Modern Comics" on cover instead of Charlton Comics: $4. in Near Mint, grades below that no value listed.
 
Note: be honest with yourself when you self-grade. Hopefully this will help. I don't have this year's O.P.G which came out in April 2004 ( # 34); these figures, as I say, are based on last year's Price Guide.
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

punkybluester <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It's #93. But someone should also ask this fella if he has the 
Charlton edition, or the Modern Comics reprint. I'm sure there's a 
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--Eric

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>  
> Phil
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in regards to the edition, it is the original Charlton comics group edition, #93 volume #6. does that help with the price ranging in mint condition.
pandora

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It's #93. But someone should also ask this fella if he has the 
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it does not say modern comics on the front cover, it says charlton comics.
and it is in mint condition, it was my father's he just passed away and we found it in the attic.  with many other comic books in mint condition. he was a comic book buff.
pandora

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
That is true, Eric. I thought of that too, but just assumed he knew which edition he has, which he may.

O.P.G # 33 (last year's): 

Charton Comics Judomaster # 93, 1967.

GD   VG   FN   VF   VF/NM    NM

$3.    $7.  $10. $23.     $29.     $35.

Modern Comics reprint of same issue, says "Modern Comics" on cover instead of Charlton Comics: $4. in Near Mint, grades below that no value listed.

Note: be honest with yourself when you self-grade. Hopefully this will help. I don't have this year's O.P.G which came out in April 2004 ( # 34); these figures, as I say, are based on last year's Price Guide.

Best,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

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It's #93. But someone should also ask this fella if he has the 
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--Eric

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>  
> Phil
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Melissa,
 
The volume # 6 in this case in irrelevant. What is more relevant is that it says Charlton Comics on the cover, and not Modern Comics. 
 
This means you have an original 1960's Charlton Comics Judomaster # 93. If it top, Near Mint condition, and this is only "if" it is worth at least $35.00 U.S. 
 
Modern Comics, several years later, reprinted many of the comics published by Charlton Comics, and the Modern Comics versions are worth very little. The Judomaster series first issue, oddly, was numbered # 89, and this numbered continued through # 98. There was only one Judomaster series, therefore there were ten issues, # 89 through # 98. Previous to those, Judomaster appeared solo, his first appearance, in Special War Series # 4, also from Charlton Comics.
 
Phil Latter
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melissa martinez <pandora298@yahoo.com> wrote:
in regards to the edition, it is the original Charlton comics group edition, #93 volume #6. does that help with the price ranging in mint condition.
pandora

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It's #93. But someone should also ask this fella if he has the 
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> Phil
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I've always had a harder time personally finding these things than 
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I've forgotten the relationship between Modern and Charlton. Does 
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Hey Dean...I'll trade you some Modern reprints for the real thing.

I think that the Modern books were printed by Charlton but were sold 
on newsstands as part of a pack, like the grab bags that I used to 
buy at Toys 'R Us when I was a kid. I might be wrong on that though.

--Eric


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Don't get me wrong! I love that Big Red "C", but that completist bug 
in me wants those Modern reprints. 

I think you're right about the distribution of the Modern books. What 
I'm curious about was whether the folks at Charlton were the impetus 
to get these reprints into market.

Dean


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I don't know why I didn't buy these at the time they came out during 
the late 80's, but I didn't. I've been kicking myself since. 
Yesterday when I was in to get my weekly batch of comics, I thumbed 
through the back issue bins and I had one of those moments that make 
this hobby big time fun...I found a full set of the seven Doomsday 
Squad issues for a buck each. I quickly rounded them up, and 
gleefully brought them home. While I read the original Doomsday+1 
issues when they came out, I've wanted to see these reprints and the 
better coloring they offer for many years. The new covers by John 
Byrne, Neal Adams, and especially the late Gil Kane are outstanding. 

I was struck by the editorials in issues #1 and #2 in which the 
original series is described. Charlton was apparently held in very 
low regard by the folks at Fantagraphics (Gary Groth I guess...am I 
right there). One comment in particular struck me. It says that 
Charlton never had any moments of a singular editorial direction. I 
don't know what you call the work of Dick Giordano and the Action 
Hero line if not distinctive and distinguished editorial direction. 
Likewise, I've always thought that George Wildman and Nick Cuti 
era was very energetic and filled with a strong sense of editorial 
flair. 

I'm very much looking forward to reading this series through again 
this evening.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> I don't know why I didn't buy these at the time they came out 
during 
> the late 80's, but I didn't. I've been kicking myself since. 
> Yesterday when I was in to get my weekly batch of comics, I 
thumbed 
> through the back issue bins and I had one of those moments that 
make 
> this hobby big time fun...I found a full set of the seven Doomsday 
> Squad issues for a buck each. I quickly rounded them up, and 
> gleefully brought them home. While I read the original Doomsday+1 
> issues when they came out, I've wanted to see these reprints and 
the 
> better coloring they offer for many years. The new covers by John 
> Byrne, Neal Adams, and especially the late Gil Kane are 
outstanding. 
> 
> I was struck by the editorials in issues #1 and #2 in which the 
> original series is described. Charlton was apparently held in very 
> low regard by the folks at Fantagraphics (Gary Groth I guess...am 
I 
> right there). One comment in particular struck me. It says that 
> Charlton never had any moments of a singular editorial direction. 
I 
> don't know what you call the work of Dick Giordano and the Action 
> Hero line if not distinctive and distinguished editorial 
direction. 
> Likewise, I've always thought that George Wildman and Nick Cuti 
> era was very energetic and filled with a strong sense of editorial 
> flair. 
> 
> I'm very much looking forward to reading this series through again 
> this evening.
> 

 Hi I too love this series I wish they had continued with it. There 
were many other adventures this series could have had. I just read 
the reprints a couple of months ago and still enjoyed it. Maybe they 
will continue it who knows.










> Dean


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Groth is one of those guys who says things just to
annoy people. Charlton had direction. It just never
gave a chance to a lot of deserving books but heck you
never knew what was coming next and that was half the
fun...one minute you had anew super hero the next you
got Konga....

--- Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
> I don't know why I didn't buy these at the time they
> came out during 
> the late 80's, but I didn't. I've been kicking
> myself since. 
> Yesterday when I was in to get my weekly batch of
> comics, I thumbed 
> through the back issue bins and I had one of those
> moments that make 
> this hobby big time fun...I found a full set of the
> seven Doomsday 
> Squad issues for a buck each. I quickly rounded them
> up, and 
> gleefully brought them home. While I read the
> original Doomsday+1 
> issues when they came out, I've wanted to see these
> reprints and the 
> better coloring they offer for many years. The new
> covers by John 
> Byrne, Neal Adams, and especially the late Gil Kane
> are outstanding. 
> 
> I was struck by the editorials in issues #1 and #2
> in which the 
> original series is described. Charlton was
> apparently held in very 
> low regard by the folks at Fantagraphics (Gary Groth
> I guess...am I 
> right there). One comment in particular struck me.
> It says that 
> Charlton never had any moments of a singular
> editorial direction. I 
> don't know what you call the work of Dick Giordano
> and the Action 
> Hero line if not distinctive and distinguished
> editorial direction. 
> Likewise, I've always thought that George Wildman
> and Nick Cuti 
> era was very energetic and filled with a strong
> sense of editorial 
> flair. 
> 
> I'm very much looking forward to reading this series
> through again 
> this evening.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 



		
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If I'm not mistaken, Fantagraphics also came out with a little book of Rog 2000 stories reprinting Byrne's stories from his Charlton days.  Wish I still had all that stuff.

     Allen Smith

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Allen,
 
You're not mistaken. Well, maybe, "sorta." It was Pacific Comics, not Fantagraphics, (but not a bad guess), who, in July of 1982, published a collection of Rog 2000 reprints in black and white, with a new, colour wraparound cover depicting Rog 2000 along with his cohorts. The one-shot was called The Complete Rog 2000 and was magazine sized (width and height), with 39 pages. Thus, for something magazine sized, it is rather thin for that format. It has a cardboard type colour cover stock. Roger Stern wrote the introduction. It was published by the defunct PC: Pacific Comics. I still have my copy, protected all these years in an acid-free magazine mylar. 
 
If Fantagraphics published a version, I am not aware of it. I like this in black and white. As, we are probably all aware of how badly the Charlton "muddy" colouring was on a lot of their comics, including Rog 2000.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

bigal4151@aol.com wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, Fantagraphics also came out with a little book of Rog 2000 stories reprinting Byrne's stories from his Charlton days.  Wish I still had all that stuff.

     Allen Smith

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If I'm not mistaken, Fantagraphics also came out with a little book of
Rog 2000 stories reprinting Byrne's stories from his Charlton days. 
Wish I still had all that stuff.

     Allen Smith


I have the Rog2000 book, some of the pages were in the wrong order,
but other than that, I enjoyed the book.

Ric


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It's certainly possible, Ric, that Fantagraphics put out a Rog 2000 collection. As I said, the Rog 2000 collection is from Pacific Comics. Can anyone confirm if a Fantagraphics collection of Rog 2000 exists-? I know---I will check ebay to see if I can turn one up. Not that that is conclusive...
 
Phil Latter
Canada

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If I'm not mistaken, Fantagraphics also came out with a little book of
Rog 2000 stories reprinting Byrne's stories from his Charlton days. 
Wish I still had all that stuff.

     Allen Smith


I have the Rog2000 book, some of the pages were in the wrong order,
but other than that, I enjoyed the book.

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Mike,
 
I agree, they are common. I have all of those too. I have been trying to get Overstreet to list Steve Ditko's Mr. A one shot for years and years and years. He won't do it, even though lots of Ditko fans, and Overstreet's Senior Advisers ask him to do it. And I know this because I asked a few of his Senior 10 Advisers to ask him, and they said they did. I believe them. Bob Overstreet says there is no room, yet: Overstreet prints everything Marvel has ever churned out, even their worse crap like Star Comics, etc---while the advertising pages (which Bob O. charges huge $$$ on, exponentially increase their page count every single year, while the listings pages continue to decrease (I heard this beef from one of Bob's own Advisers, who shall remain nameless here for obvious reasons.) And yet the price of the O.P.G., riddled with hundreds (thousands-?) of intentional errors, sending collectors on endless "Snipe Hunts" for books that DO NOT EXIST, the price annually escalates for the O.P.G.
 ever upward-! The mind boggles-!
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Michael Ambrose <mikeargo@flash.net> wrote:
Intentional errors, and maybe a lot of inertia about removing bad data, too...I once had a debate with a mail-order dealer about the super-high price he had for the reprint SPACE WAR and SPACE ADVENTURES from the late 70s, great Ditko stuff, but just reprints, not that hard to find (I have them all in multiples). OPG had them for like $10 or something ridiculous. I finally convinced the dealer they were valued too highly. He contacted Overstreet and they negotiated about it. This was four or five years ago. I think they're still at that price for NM. They'll probably only ever change in an upward direction.
 
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil Latter 
To: Michael Ambrose 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [patboyette] Does Cosmic Book # 2 exist-?


That's great Mike,
 
Now I can finally stop looking for Cosmic Book # 2. It really burns my a$$ how Overstreet riddles his O.P.G. with loads of "intentional errors". I mean, they are expensive, right-? Thanks for the info-!
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

Michael Ambrose <MIKEARGO@flash.net> wrote:
Hi Phil,

That's definitely an error in OPG about Cosmic Book 
#2. Only the cover art was ever produced, which the 
publisher (Ron Frantz) used to promote and solicit the 
issue. But it was never finished or published. I 
reproduced the cover to CB #2 in Charlton Spotlight 
#1, and you can read all about it there in Ron's 
article about Pat.

Best,
Mike

--- Original Message ---
From: Phil Latter 
To: Michael Ambrose 
Subject: Re: [patboyette] Does Cosmic Book # 2 exist-?

>Thanks Mike.
> 
>And here is another question about Pat Boyette that 
hopefully someone in this group can answer. I have a 
copy of Pat Boyette The Cosmic Book comic book # 1. 
According the the Overstreet Price Guide (O.P.G.), 
there were two issues produced. But, I have never seen ! 
a copy of # 2. The question is, does this indeed 
exist, or is this just another one of the endless 
errors (some of which are intentional) in the O.P.G. 
every year-?
> 
>If it does exist, can anyone post a scan of its cover 
to the group-?
> 
>Best Wishes,
> 
>Phil Latter
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>Canada
>
>Michael Ambrose wrote:
>Hi Phil,
> 
>The Nightstand Chillers was a special issue of The 
Edge from Vanguard, about 1998. Collection of Pat's 
horror stories, mainly from Warren mags but some 
Charlton and other, plus appreciations galore from 
Steranko and other such folk. Original edition was 
signed by Pat on the cover, and I was lucky to get 
one. Vanguard recently reissued the book in a revised, 
expanded edition with more artwork, interviews, etc. I 
got mine from Bud Plant & you could probably order 
direct from Vanguard Publishi! ng (David M. Spurlock). 
This came out a couple months ago. Most definitely 
worth your money! 
> 
>Cheers,
>Mike



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I've read that in the original story from Space Adventures 33, Cap's 
costume is blue or grey, and the president at the end is drawn to be 
Eisenhower.  In later reprints, the costume is colored yellow, and 
the president's face is redrawn.  Just out of curiosity, does anyone 
know if this archive restores the original colors and art?

-Tho

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Michael Norwitz 
<blaklion@b...> wrote:
> ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC
> 
> * A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE ADVENTURES #33-
42 and
> CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966
> 
> * Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art by 
Ditko,
> Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin
> 
> * Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price of 
$49.95
> U.S.
> 
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Tho,
 
You are correct. I own an original high grade copy of Space Adventures # 33, first appearance of Captain Atom, and all the rest of the Captain Atom issues of Space Adventures and Strange Suspense Stories where he appeared later. 
 
 In Space Adventures # 33, on the cover, his costume was red/- orangey and yellow. But inside, the red parts were black, and the yellow parts were powder blue. Those were my original posts you read. It was actually a pretty nice colour scheme, the powder blue and black, only used the once, and every time it was reprinted, that first tale, they recoloured it red/- orangey and yellow.
 
To answer your question, will the archives colour the first appearance of Captain Atom in the archives the powder blue and black colours of the interior of Space Adventures # 33---while I don't know if they will do that, I frankly doubt it. If they did, 99.9 % of the readers of that first Captain Atom archive would likely feel incensed and ripped off, thinking DC screwed up the colour totally reprinting the Space Adventures # 33 issue. Since this fact---that originally, in his first appearance, his outfit was powder blue and black---is almost totally unknown. After all, how many folks do you know who OWN an original (not a reprint) of Space Adventures with that original colour scheme-? See what I mean-?
 
Then again, if they print the costume, from Space Adv. # 33 in powder blue and black, AND in the introduction, mention why, that would be entirely logical. But I doubt that will happen. 
 
I have never heard that rumour that the President's face was redrawn, though. I will have to compare Space Adv. # 33 to the reprints I have as well, tomorrow...
 
If it has 228 pages, my guess is it will be in black and white...I mean, that is a lot of pages in one book...
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Tho <ethoha@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've read that in the original story from Space Adventures 33, Cap's 
costume is blue or grey, and the president at the end is drawn to be 
Eisenhower.  In later reprints, the costume is colored yellow, and 
the president's face is redrawn.  Just out of curiosity, does anyone 
know if this archive restores the original colors and art?

-Tho

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Michael Norwitz 
<blaklion@b...> wrote:
> ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC
> 
> * A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE ADVENTURES #33-
42 and
> CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966
> 
> * Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art by 
Ditko,
> Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin
> 
> * Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price of 
$49.95
> U.S.



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Phil, you are correct, it was Pacific comics.  I still wish I had a copy of that.

     Allen Smith

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Allen,
 
A thought, try ebay. I bet copies would go cheap. Again, this strip, given Charlton's horrible colouring, looks best in black and white.
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

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--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Tho,
>  
> You are correct. I own an original high grade copy
> of Space Adventures # 33, first appearance of
> Captain Atom, and all the rest of the Captain Atom
> issues of Space Adventures and Strange Suspense
> Stories where he appeared later. 
>  
>  In Space Adventures # 33, on the cover, his costume
> was red/- orangey and yellow. But inside, the red
> parts were black, and the yellow parts were powder
> blue. Those were my original posts you read. It was
> actually a pretty nice colour scheme, the powder
> blue and black, only used the once, and every time
> it was reprinted, that first tale, they recoloured
> it red/- orangey and yellow.
>  
> To answer your question, will the archives colour
> the first appearance of Captain Atom in the archives
> the powder blue and black colours of the interior of
> Space Adventures # 33---while I don't know if they
> will do that, I frankly doubt it. If they did, 99.9
> % of the readers of that first Captain Atom archive
> would likely feel incensed and ripped off, thinking
> DC screwed up the colour totally reprinting the
> Space Adventures # 33 issue. Since this fact---that
> originally, in his first appearance, his outfit was
> powder blue and black---is almost totally unknown.
> After all, how many folks do you know who OWN an
> original (not a reprint) of Space Adventures with
> that original colour scheme-? See what I mean-?
>  
> Then again, if they print the costume, from Space
> Adv. # 33 in powder blue and black, AND in the
> introduction, mention why, that would be entirely
> logical. But I doubt that will happen. 
>  
> I have never heard that rumour that the President's
> face was redrawn, though. I will have to compare
> Space Adv. # 33 to the reprints I have as well,
> tomorrow...
>  
> If it has 228 pages, my guess is it will be in black
> and white...I mean, that is a lot of pages in one
> book...
>  
> Best,
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 
Phil,

I hope they explain and keep the original colors for
the first story. I also fervently hope that the rest
of the first series is colored with the original
yellow & gold, not, repeat NOT, the yellow and red
used when Dick G. reprinted them and in the new
material. To me, then as now, that was a -major-
design mistake.

BTW, Steve Ditko's art, especially on C.A., suffered
more than just about anybody when the original art
went from twice up to one and one-half the printed
size. In fact, I wonder if this was not at least part
of the reason for the new costume.

C.A. apprered at least once in Space War. I do not
know if that was a reprint. The art was by Rocke' so I
did not buy it the one time I saw it.


		
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Robert/-Tho,
 
Please see my newest comments all the way down the bottom of this page. Thanks. Phil Latter
Canada.

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Tho,
>  
> You are correct. I own an original high grade copy
> of Space Adventures # 33, first appearance of
> Captain Atom, and all the rest of the Captain Atom
> issues of Space Adventures and Strange Suspense
> Stories where he appeared later. 
>  
>  In Space Adventures # 33, on the cover, his costume
> was red/- orangey and yellow. But inside, the red
> parts were black, and the yellow parts were powder
> blue. Those were my original posts you read. It was
> actually a pretty nice colour scheme, the powder
> blue and black, only used the once, and every time
> it was reprinted, that first tale, they recoloured
> it red/- orangey and yellow.
>  
> To answer your question, will the archives colour
> the first appearance of Captain Atom in the archives
> the powder blue and black colours of the interior of
> Space Adventures # 33---while I don't know if they
> will do that, I frankly doubt it. If they did, 99.9
> % of the readers of that first Captain Atom archive
> would likely feel incensed and ripped off, thinking
> DC screwed up the colour totally reprinting the
> Space Adventures # 33 issue. Since this fact---that
> originally, in his first appearance, his outfit was
> powder blue and black---is almost totally unknown.
> After all, how many folks do you know who OWN an
> original (not a reprint) of Space Adventures with
> that original colour scheme-? See what I mean-?
>  
> Then again, if they print the costume, from Space
> Adv. # 33 in powder blue and black, AND in the
> introduction, mention why, that would be entirely
> logical. But I doubt that will happen. 
>  
> I have never heard that rumour that the President's
> face was redrawn, though. I will have to compare
> Space Adv. # 33 to the reprints I have as well,
> tomorrow...
>  
> If it has 228 pages, my guess is it will be in black
> and white...I mean, that is a lot of pages in one
> book...
>  
> Best,
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 
Phil,

I hope they explain and keep the original colors for
the first story. I also fervently hope that the rest
of the first series is colored with the original
yellow & gold, not, repeat NOT, the yellow and red
used when Dick G. reprinted them and in the new
material. To me, then as now, that was a -major-
design mistake.

BTW, Steve Ditko's art, especially on C.A., suffered
more than just about anybody when the original art
went from twice up to one and one-half the printed
size. In fact, I wonder if this was not at least part
of the reason for the new costume.

C.A. apprered at least once in Space War. I do not
know if that was a reprint. The art was by Rocke' so I
did not buy it the one time I saw it.

----------------------------------------------

Robert/-Tho:

I,too, hope to heck they print the colours in the Captain Atom Archives*** # 1 correctly, as they appeared in the original 1960's comics editions from Charlton (***which I doubt I will shell out for, after all, I have all the original 1960's issues that I paid a lot for money for, so why would I pay a lot for reprints-? But if I didn't have them, then yes, I would have bought the Archives)

In my view: EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE THESE STORIES SHOULD BUY THESE DC ARCHIVES-! These are wonderful, exciting stories-!

---This said: I am happy that a much broader range of comics lovers will have a chance to see this wonderful Ditko stuff-!

I (respectful) don't agree that Captain Atom's costume was changed for the reason you surmised. I think that, at that time, it was just time for a change from the creator's standpoint. And, according to the storyline that introduced the change (EG: the written story reason for the change), it logistically made perfect sense. Captain Atom had failed. And failed miserally, and, captured by his adversaries, he had, further, been unmasked on national television by his enemies. 

He therefore came up with a new costume with NO mask, sort of a "coming of age" step, a "new" Captain Atom with brighter costume colours. "New and Improved", so to speak. 

It was also a media event. And: "I made some mistakes, but hey, now I am 'new and improved', my powers, which had disappeared, are back, and I am going to catch the bad guys and save the day-!"

And then, he went on to do just that-!

The costume change/-look MISTAKE was when DC re-did his look and origin. In the view of tens of thousands of fans (or more, including me), that was a major mistake. For the writing of the DC Captain Atom to say that the Charlton Cap Atom stories were fiction, they never happened, was to insult them. And to (in my view) insult Steve Ditko. 

To answer your question, I have the Space War Charlton Captain Atom stories as well. And yes, they are reprints, not new stories. 

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

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Thanks for the information, Phil & Robert.  I'd like to see the 
original colors in the archive, but I can see how being too faithful 
can be distracting.  That was my reaction when reading in Spider-Man 
Chapter One, which contains an explanation of why Spider-Man had a 
blue spider on his back (as seen in Amazing Fantasy 15), and a red one 
subsequently.

The archives are a little too pricey for me, but if I find a used or 
discount copy of this one I'd pick it up.

-Tho


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Hey, I just received some new artwork by Joe Staton of E-Man and 
Nova, I have it on the title page of my E-Man site.  I will post it 
here to so I can spread my happiness!

Rome


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I took a peek over at your site, and it is a beautiful image! 
Congratulations! That Joe Staton is something else.

Dean


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Thanks Dean.
 
Rome

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
I took a peek over at your site, and it is a beautiful image! 
Congratulations! That Joe Staton is something else.

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I need to find at least two people whose local newspaper has a comic
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story and would like to have a hard copy or two.

i am willing to pay for paper and stamp for this I would greatly
appreciate anyones help









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Check out the Files section. Added is a B&W unpublished full story by 
Joe Gill and Pat Boyette featuring The Peacemaker. This story was 
unearthed, was at the Pat Boyette Group, and now is stored here for 
the time being. 

Enjoy!

Dean


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Goodness, people! Why haven't we graciously thanked Dean for his
fantastic contribution? I've been so busy catching up with all the
scans available in the Yahoo groups, that I overlooked this one.
DEAN, thank you very VERY much!
Where did you get this lost masterwork? WHAT A FIND!!!!!
=link

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> wrote:
> Check out the Files section. Added is a B&W unpublished full story by 
> Joe Gill and Pat Boyette featuring The Peacemaker. This story was 
> unearthed, was at the Pat Boyette Group, and now is stored here for 
> the time being. 
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Dean



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This was scanned in over at the Pat Boyette Group. I can't take 
credit for scanning it in, but when they ran out of room over there 
to keep it up, I brought it over here to live. It's too good to not 
have a home somewhere and we have the room.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Dean


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Well, let me give a belated thanks to Dean for posting this.  I liked the 
Peacemaker when he first came out, but with Dick Giordano going to DC, the short 
lived Charlton super hero age came to an end.  Of course, later there was 
E-Man and some pretty good horror stories by Ditko, Staton, Sutton, Boyette, et 
al....

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I was the one who scanned it for the Boyette group, but it was at least third hand - I got my paper copies from Steve Cohen who got them from someone on the Charlton-l group.  (Steve has told me who it was at least twice and I still can't remember!  Ah, the ravages of age.)

David McL
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  This was scanned in over at the Pat Boyette Group. I can't take 
  credit for scanning it in, but when they ran out of room over there 
  to keep it up, I brought it over here to live. It's too good to not 
  have a home somewhere and we have the room.

  Glad you enjoyed it.

  Dean


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I was really surprised to see this.  I haven't had a chance to read 
it yet, but I think it was great that he posted it.
I recently emailed Roy Thomas and said that they should interview Joe 
Gill for Alter Ego magazine.  Nick Cuti provided his phone number and 
Roy is going to get in touch with him.  I mentioned that there is 
this unpublished Peacemaker material in this group and I provided a 
link to the group.
Didn't know there was a Pat Boyette group.  Going to have to check 
that out.  His 'Children of Doom' was a classic.


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Yaco" 
<LINCOLNyaco@a...> wrote:
> Goodness, people! Why haven't we graciously thanked Dean for his
> fantastic contribution? I've been so busy catching up with all the
> scans available in the Yahoo groups, that I overlooked this one.
> DEAN, thank you very VERY much!
> Where did you get this lost masterwork? WHAT A FIND!!!!!
> =link
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> > Check out the Files section. Added is a B&W unpublished full 
story by 
> > Joe Gill and Pat Boyette featuring The Peacemaker. This story was 
> > unearthed, was at the Pat Boyette Group, and now is stored here 
for 
> > the time being. 
> > 
> > Enjoy!
> > 
> > Dean


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randyh_17404 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: 

Didn't know there was a Pat Boyette group.  Going to have to check 
that out.  His 'Children of Doom' was a classic.

Me Nether, also it's strange that you should mention 'Children of Doom' as I was planning on posting it to - 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phaboxcentral

in October as long as it's not already available elsewhere that is !

- Phabox.


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Yaco" 
<LINCOLNyaco@a...> wrote:
> Goodness, people! Why haven't we graciously thanked Dean for his
> fantastic contribution? I've been so busy catching up with all the
> scans available in the Yahoo groups, that I overlooked this one.
> DEAN, thank you very VERY much!
> Where did you get this lost masterwork? WHAT A FIND!!!!!
> =link
> 
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <sonofvulcan@a...> 
wrote:
> > Check out the Files section. Added is a B&W unpublished full 
story by 
> > Joe Gill and Pat Boyette featuring The Peacemaker. This story was 
> > unearthed, was at the Pat Boyette Group, and now is stored here 
for 
> > the time being. 
> > 
> > Enjoy!
> > 
> > Dean



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Here's the link.  The group was only formed about three months ago.  I thin=
k I managed to jump on board within the first couple of days!
=20
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/patboyette/
=20
David McL

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Didn't know there was a Pat Boyette group.=A0 Going to have to check <BR>
that out.=A0 His 'Children of Doom' was a classic.<BR>


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: I am in a Phantom group , which I am , now , going to plug .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egmont_phantom !!!!!!!
  It is dedicated to posting Egmont Comics stories of Lee Falk's characte , the Phantom .
  A little explanation may be needed here - Egmont , the Scandanavian company that also publishes most of the new Disney material that Gemstone , Stateside , reprints , also publishes original , comic-book format , Phantom stories .
  They are not published in the U. S. - These are not the Phantom stories that Moonstone no publishes , Moonstone does not use the Egmont stories . They're not newspaper strip reprints , or rewrites/remakes of newspaper strip stories , and , though they are published in Scandanavia in the Scandanavian languages , ( Or , " dialects " , arguably ! ) they are published in Australia in English . These are new , 21st Century , stories , but , in many ways , they may recall many of the things many of us liked so much about super-hero stories of an " earlier " era !
  Ivan , of the Group , takes the full color , uncensored* Scandanavian versions of the comic storie , and , scans the Oz copy in , meaning , in fact , that he posts " unique " versions !  
  Most of all , they're enjoyable stories , worth a look , if I say so myself !!!!!!!!!!! Apparently , the Scandanavian and AU sales figures of these comics compare favorably with top-end-selling US titles' !  Perhaps I'll throw in more sales talk/explanation/background , later , but , instead , for now...
  Well , I'll throw in a link for my , somewhat more low-key , Phantom Group , as well , heeeyyy...
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Hi to all ,first i would like to say i love the Unpublished 
PEACEMAKER story .Does anyone know if there is any unpublished 
stories featuring Judo masteror any of the other action heroes out 
there any where. THANKS AND GOD BLESS EVERY ONE GUY



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"GUY E. SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi to all ,first i would like to say i love the Unpublished 
PEACEMAKER story .Does anyone know if there is any unpublished 
stories featuring Judo masteror any of the other action heroes out 
there any where. THANKS AND GOD BLESS EVERY ONE GUY

Back when Charlton Bullseye was a fanzine, they published a Captain Atom story over two issues, and a Blue Beetle story.  These were supposed to be the next issues, but were cancelled when the Action Heroes line ceased.  Since these were only in a fanzine, I consider them unpublished.


		
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In a message dated 9/7/04 11:19:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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"GUY E.  SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi to all ,first i would  like to say i love the Unpublished 
PEACEMAKER story .Does anyone know if  there is any unpublished 
stories featuring Judo masteror any of the other  action heroes out 
there any where. THANKS AND GOD BLESS EVERY ONE  GUY

Back when Charlton Bullseye was a fanzine, they published a Captain  Atom 
story over two issues, and a Blue Beetle story.  These were supposed  to be the 
next issues, but were cancelled when the Action Heroes line  ceased.  Since 
these were only in a fanzine, I consider them  unpublished.



I have scans of those and an unpublished Question story. Say the word and  
I'll add them to the files.


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"The word." ;-)

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I have scans of those and an unpublished Question story. Say the word and=
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--- atomjla@aol.com wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 9/7/04 11:19:08 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,  
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> "GUY E.  SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi to all ,first i would  like to say i love the
> Unpublished 
> PEACEMAKER story .Does anyone know if  there is any
> unpublished 
> stories featuring Judo masteror any of the other 
> action heroes out 
> there any where. THANKS AND GOD BLESS EVERY ONE  GUY
> 
> Back when Charlton Bullseye was a fanzine, they
> published a Captain  Atom 
> story over two issues, and a Blue Beetle story. 
> These were supposed  to be the 
> next issues, but were cancelled when the Action
> Heroes line  ceased.  Since 
> these were only in a fanzine, I consider them 
> unpublished.
> 
> 
> 
> I have scans of those and an unpublished Question
> story. Say the word and  
> I'll add them to the files.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
I definately would like to get the Blue Beetle story.

Is the Question story drawn by Alex Toth? If so, I
imagine the others would enjoy seeing it. I know I
did. 



	
		
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Question: is this "unpublished The Question story" the same (Alex Toth) Question story that was in Charlton Bullseye magazine (not comic) fanzine # 5, or a different story altogether-? I am VERY interested to know-!
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
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Yep, it's the Alex Toth one. I'll dig up my disks and upload as many as I  
can into the files. It'll be nice to have some more unpublished Action Hero  
stories to keep the Peacemaker one company.


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That Alex Toth Question story is simply wonderful.
 
Phil Latter
Canada

atomjla@aol.com wrote:
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can into the files. It'll be nice to have some more unpublished Action Hero  
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Hi just wanted to see if any one remembered this hero Nature Boy 
he had his own title that lasted 3 issues 3-5.I have uploaded a pic 
of 1 of the covers so every one can see him .there was another hero 
by the name Mr.Muscles a pic of him is in the photo section 
Thank You & God Bless Guy


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I've never read a Nature Boy story, but that cover by the late and 
great John Buscema is outstanding. To be honest Nature Boy looks 
pretty tepid as heroes go, but to see that Big John artwork I'd pay a 
little bit.

I've read a Mr.Muscles story somewhere or other. Likely a fanzine has 
reprinted one,but I'd have to check to be sure.

Dean


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Sure, I remember them well. Nature Boy was in some ways a Captain
Marvel/Shazam retread, an orphaned boy given the power and protection of
certain gods (including some no mythologist had previously heard of, like
King Friga and Queen Eartha!) which resulted in his abilities to control the
forces of nature. Ran three issues, the final one of which featured a
distaff counterpart, Nature Girl, whose background and origin, though
presumably similar, were never formally disclosed. Art by a fledgling john
Buscema, though even in his beginnings he was head and shoulders above most
other practitioners of the time.

Mr. Muscles, though he wore a costume and acted the superhero, was just a
muscleman in tights, the alleged epitome of what physical training could do
for a man. Art by... oh, I'm vagueing.... Montes? Bach? Mastroserio? One
a'them... He and his sidekick, "Kid Muscles" went around beating up crooks
who, due to their dissipated lifestyles, were no match for them, encouraging
puny youngsters to build themselves up, etc. He, too, had a female version
in one story, "Miss Muscles", though since she never appeared before or
since, some folks have speculated that 'she' was actually Kid Muscles in a
frock!

> Message: 3
>    Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:31:02 -0000
>    From: "GUY E. SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Does any one remember this hero
>
> Hi just wanted to see if any one remembered this hero Nature Boy
> he had his own title that lasted 3 issues 3-5.I have uploaded a pic
> of 1 of the covers so every one can see him .there was another hero
> by the name Mr.Muscles a pic of him is in the photo section
> Thank You & God Bless Guy




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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> That Alex Toth Question story is simply wonderful.
>  
> Phil Latter
> Canada
> 
> atomjla@a... wrote:
> Yep, it's the Alex Toth one. I'll dig up my disks and upload as 
many as I  
> can into the files. It'll be nice to have some more unpublished 
Action Hero  
> stories to keep the Peacemaker one company.
> 


Since we have no room here, I made a 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/ 
group for the unpublished (and maybe a few published?) 
Charlton stories. Contact me if you want to be a moderator.


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 Since we have no room here, I made a 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/
> 
> group for the unpublished (and maybe a few
> published?) Charlton stories. Contact me if you want
to be a moderator.
> 
> 
Well, I'm member #3. I got about 15 pages of the Blue
Beetle story before the file limit kicked in.

I've been wanting to read that story for decades! Now
that is action packed story telling story telling. I
imagine, in today's comics, this story would last
three or four issues with less total meat on those
issues' bones. Can't wait to finish it.

Bob


		
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Folks,
 
For years, I have been trying to get together a complete Continuity Comics collection, (Neal Adams comics company), every last title and variance cover, etc. I have (I am guessing about 3/5th, or maybe 4/5th, but would like to know what I am missing.) Seeing covers would help, because there were such odd numbering systems with these, so many different mini series with the same or almost the same title(s).
 
I went to the official Neal Adams site but the Continuity Comics link is broken. I also tried half a dozen other sites that came up. No luck. 
 
And yep, I do read all my comics. 
 
The question is: does anyone know of anywhere on the Net where I can go to see the cover scans of EVERYTHING Continuity produced, and also, anything by Acclaim that Neal Adams produced, since some of the characters went over there too. I am also interested in seeing covers (or at least listings) of Valiant characters AFTER they went to Acclaim.
 
Also, another question: did Valiant own Acclaim, or how did that legal arrangement work-?
 
Any info anybody can give me would be greatly appreciated. Also, does anyone else collect Continuity-? I have some duplicates and always interested in a trade. Grades on mine are all top-notch.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
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Message: 3         
Date: Thu, 9  Sep 2004 18:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Kennedy  <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Unpublished Question  story

Since we have no room here, I made a 
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/
> 
> group for  the unpublished (and maybe a few
> published?) Charlton stories. Contact  me if you want
to be a moderator.
> 
> 
Well, I'm member #3. I  got about 15 pages of the Blue
Beetle story before the file limit kicked  in.

I've been wanting to read that story for decades! Now
that is  action packed story telling story telling. I
imagine, in today's comics, this  story would last
three or four issues with less total meat on  those
issues' bones. Can't wait to finish it.

Bob
 
 
There's bandwidth limits, so it's going to be hard to get them all at  first, 
but they aren't going anywhere. I don't think moderator are confined to  
those limits.
 


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--- atomjla@aol.com wrote:

> Message: 3         
> Date: Thu, 9  Sep 2004 18:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Kennedy  <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Unpublished Question  story
> 
> Since we have no room here, I made a 
> > 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/
> > 
> > group for  the unpublished (and maybe a few
> > published?) Charlton stories. Contact  me if you
> want
> to be a moderator.
> > 
> > 
> Well, I'm member #3. I  got about 15 pages of the
> Blue
> Beetle story before the file limit kicked  in.
> 
> I've been wanting to read that story for decades!
> Now> that is  action packed story telling story
telling. I imagine, in today's comics, this  story
would last three or four issues with less total meat
on  those issues' bones. Can't wait to finish it.
> 
> Bob
>  
>  
> There's bandwidth limits, so it's going to be hard
> to get them all at  first, but they aren't going
anywhere. I don't think moderator are confined to  
> those limits.
>
  
Got what I needed! The Blue Beetle story could have
had the dialog pruned a bit, but I really enjoyed it.
I've also been waiting to get that second Captain Atom
story for a long time.

I have the Question story. I wonder how Toth got
imvloved?

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From hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 10 15:32:48 2004
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Dear All
Nice to see this group getting some content going
recently!

NATURE BOY: If you've read some of the articles by
Michelle Nolan, Nature Boy is actually referred to as
one of the very first silver age heroes - preceding
Showcase 4 by a year. The stories are indeed somewhat
flimsy but the art is good and the covers are really
wonderful!
I've got all 3 issues now - all are quite scarce, 3
and 4 especially so in the higher grades.
(Interestingly the CGC census lists no.3 and no.4 at
having just ONE graded copy each - both at just 7.5.
No.5 however has fifteen graded going as high as 9.4).

SPACE ADVENTURES: Talking about rarity, I've been
looking for SA no.14 for years and have only ever seen
one copy for sale ANYWHERE. I reckon it's very rare.
Any one got one?

CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIAL: Some more evidence that
this fabled comic actually might exist. I found an old
British comic fanzine called "Speakeasy" recently.
Published in September 1986, a news article entitled
"Charlton's Back (Again?)" says...

"The company that refuses to die has resurfaced yet
again. Charlton will be back with us again from
October, but this time as a direct-sales only
publisher...
...the first project planned is Charlton Bullseye
Special, an anthology title due out in late October
(48 pages, 16 in colour, $2.00). It features
"Renegades" by T.C. Ford and Chris Pridgen, "Vengeance
Squad" and "Star Knight".

The article also mentions titles called "Force and the
Hero Network" and "The Return of the Vengeance Squad"
- both 32pages in B&W.

Finally... "If sales prove strong, there are plans to
shift the whole  line to colour."

The publisher is namad as "Tye Ford"

SO did it ever get published? Even if not, I bet
ash-cans were made... what does everyone think?

regards
Ewan




 --- Will Morgan <amazon@boy2.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 

---------------------------------
Sure, I remember them well. Nature Boy was in some
ways a Captain
Marvel/Shazam retread, an orphaned boy given the power
and protection of
certain gods (including some no mythologist had
previously heard of, like
King Friga and Queen Eartha!) which resulted in his
abilities to control the
forces of nature. Ran three issues, the final one of
which featured a
distaff counterpart, Nature Girl, whose background and
origin, though
presumably similar, were never formally disclosed. Art
by a fledgling john
Buscema, though even in his beginnings he was head and
shoulders above most
other practitioners of the time.

Mr. Muscles, though he wore a costume and acted the
superhero, was just a
muscleman in tights, the alleged epitome of what
physical training could do
for a man. Art by... oh, I'm vagueing.... Montes?
Bach? Mastroserio? One
a'them... He and his sidekick, "Kid Muscles" went
around beating up crooks
who, due to their dissipated lifestyles, were no match
for them, encouraging
puny youngsters to build themselves up, etc. He, too,
had a female version
in one story, "Miss Muscles", though since she never
appeared before or
since, some folks have speculated that 'she' was
actually Kid Muscles in a
frock!

> Message: 3
>    Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:31:02 -0000
>    From: "GUY E. SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Does any one remember this hero
>
> Hi just wanted to see if any one remembered this
hero Nature Boy
> he had his own title that lasted 3 issues 3-5.I have
uploaded a pic
> of 1 of the covers so every one can see him .there
was another hero
> by the name Mr.Muscles a pic of him is in the photo
section
> Thank You & God Bless Guy



	
	
		
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Hi All,

Last year I researched an article on fan fiction of
all types. I found enough to sink a medium sized
island.

That said, here are just a couple of Charlton related
pieces.

"The Press Asks A Question" features MLJ's Press
Guardian (think Green Hornet, no Kato) and Vic Sage.
New sections of the ongoing story are posted at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MightyFanfic/

That story, and many other MLJ, Archie, Radio, & Red
Circle related fan fictions (including my ongoing Bob
Phantom epic) are archived at:

http://www.mightycrusaders.net/

Dark Mark writes bunches of fan fiction about a
variety of characters. His ongoing Justice Force story
is telling why all of the Charlton Action-Heroes were
working together when the Crisis on Infinite Earths
began. Find that story and lots of others (like
Supergirl and Buffy in "The Vampire of Steel,"
(no joke)) at

 http://dark_mark.tripod.com/darkmark1.htm

Just a few suggestions to fill any free time (HA!) in
our scheduals.

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Bob Kennedy


		
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Hi I was wondering if I could get every one to tell if they like the 
Charlton heroes like Charlton handled them or if they like them the 
way Dc has handled them .Me my self I like them the way they were 
handled by Charlton.Dc may have kept them around longer but the 
heroes are not used like the creators intended.
Thank You & God Bless Guy  


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I much prefer the Action Heroes as they were originally done by 
talents such as Ditko, Boyette, Aparo, McLaughlin, Morisi,and 
Giordano. While I'm grateful that Dick Giordano took steps way back 
when to salvage the Action line from the wreck that Charlton was 
headed for, I agree that by and large the DC treatment of these 
heroes has been pretty ineffective. 

Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and The Question all had respectable runs 
at DC but in none of those runs do I find stories as good as what was 
done at Charlton. Blue Beetle comes the closest and I'll confess I 
like his handling in the Justice League. Captain Atom has been 
transformed into a completely other character and I just don't get 
what DC did with the Question. Peacemaker suffered the most, being 
transformed into a lunatic. Nightshade has been handled okay from 
what I've seen. Thunderbolt has been done okay too, but currently DC 
doesn't have the rights to him. Judomaster has actually had the best 
treatment, but likely because he's been handled the least and then by 
Dick Giordano mostly. I hear they have upcoming plans for Son of 
Vulcan so I'll have to see what that brings.

On one hand it would have been very difficult for DC to top in my 
opinion the work that Charlton did. Giordano and company struck magic 
with the Action heroes, and that stuff doesn't happen often. But in 
some cases DC has done everything they can think of to mutilate the 
characters. I don't think they do it on purpose, but the results are 
often the same.

Dean 


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The way Charlton handled them was best, hands down.
 
Rome

"GUY E. SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi I was wondering if I could get every one to tell if they like the 
Charlton heroes like Charlton handled them or if they like them the 
way Dc has handled them .Me my self I like them the way they were 
handled by Charlton.Dc may have kept them around longer but the 
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Hi does anyone know how many issues of Six-Gun heroes Gunmaster was 
in and how many issues of his own title there were 
Thank You & God Bless Capt'n G


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Great question. I don't have access to my Overstreet at the moment, 
but there are two titles to look out for: Six-Gun Heroes and 
Gunmaster. I thought I had this one figured out for a while, but I 
keep stumbling across more copies.

Dean


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I didn't like the way DC handled the Charlton heroes.  The Question comic by O'Neil was well written but not the Charlton character.  The Captain Atom book I never read, although I did like Pat Broderick's art.  The Blue Beetle, in the JLA book, was treated like a buffoon.  Now, I'll grant you that the Charlton heroes didn't last long, but none was portrayed as a buffoon, in the Charlton comics.

     Allen Smith

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--- Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:

> Great question. I don't have access to my Overstreet
> at the moment, but there are two titles to look out
for: Six-Gun Heroes and Gunmaster. I thought I had
this one figured out for a while, but I keep stumbling
across more copies.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
Gunmaster started in Six-Gun Heroes which eventually
became Gunmaster, IIRC. However, like Captain Atom in
Space War, I seem to remember Gunmaster showing up in
Outlaws Of The West. (Possible/ probable reprint?)

I also believe that the Gunmaster title popped up
after about a year's break at the same time as
Mysterious Suspense #1 & Blue Beetle #5. To do so he
may have picked up yet another mag's numbering.
Charlton did tons of that stuff.


		
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I *did* look at Overstreet, and it wasn't much help.  It was fine in terms =
of Gunmaster (10 issues, 1-4 and 84-89) but it really doesn't say definitiv=
ely which issues of Six-Gun Heroes he was in.   From the few covers I was a=
ble to look at on Mile High, GCD, etc.  I have a strong impression that he =
was in all of the issues from 62-83, or nearly all anyway.
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Here is part of the equation: past annual "issues" of the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide have reported that the Charlton Gunmaster title eventually became Judomaster. Yes, they are two completely different characters and different time periods. But the O.P.G. has reported in the past that when Gunmaster was cancelled, Charlton continued the # numbering from Gunmaster, onto Judomaster title. Even though it was a completely different title/-time period/-and character.
 
The odd part is that, even while doing that, Charlton screwed up the numbering. You see, the last issue of Gunmaster was # 89, and the first issue of Judomaster was # 89, not # 90. Yes, there are thus two # 89's, one of which is a Gunmaster issue, the other of which is a Judomaster issue. However, the very first appearance of Judomaster was in Special War Series # 4, which was an anthology war title.
Thus, Judomaster # 89 (his 'first issue', so to speak)....was also Judomaster's.....second appearance.
 
And, while I am likely in the minority, Judomaster has ALWAYS been my favourite Charlton character. Including all the other Charlton superheroes, although I like all those also, plus The Fightin' Five, and Gunmaster.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


I also believe that the Gunmaster title popped up
after about a year's break at the same time as
Mysterious Suspense #1 & Blue Beetle #5. To do so he
may have picked up yet another mag's numbering.
Charlton did tons of that stuff.


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Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:Here is part of the equation: past annual "issues" of the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide have reported that the Charlton Gunmaster title eventually became Judomaster. Yes, they are two completely different characters and different time periods. But the O.P.G. has reported in the past that when Gunmaster was cancelled, Charlton continued the # numbering from Gunmaster, onto Judomaster title. Even though it was a completely different title/-time period/-and character.

The odd part is that, even while doing that, Charlton screwed up the numbering. You see, the last issue of Gunmaster was # 89, and the first issue of Judomaster was # 89, not # 90. Yes, there are thus two # 89's, one of which is a Gunmaster issue, the other of which is a Judomaster issue. However, the very first appearance of Judomaster was in Special War Series # 4, which was an anthology war title.
Thus, Judomaster # 89 (his 'first issue', so to speak)....was also Judomaster's.....second appearance.

And, while I am likely in the minority, Judomaster has ALWAYS been my favourite Charlton character. Including all the other Charlton superheroes, although I like all those also, plus The Fightin' Five, and Gunmaster.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada


I also believe that the Gunmaster title popped up
after about a year's break at the same time as
Mysterious Suspense #1 & Blue Beetle #5. To do so he
may have picked up yet another mag's numbering.
Charlton did tons of that stuff.


In regard to the apparent numbering system snafu:  Gunmaster ended with #88, and after Special War Series (a try-out book), Judomaster continued with #89 on.  Later on, a one-shot was put out of Gunmaster #89 to test the waters for a comeback.

The reasons Charlton did this was due to postal rates on subscriptions.  New comics had to follow the new rates, continuations followed the old rates for a year before they had to be increased to the new rates.  So, it was a scam to get the cheaper rates for up to a year.  Though they weren't the only company to do this, they were the only one surviving past the 1960s to do so.

I hope that clears up that problem.  I bought all the Action Hero line books as they came out (at least when I could find them.  Releases were always hit or miss in the area I lived in then - Michigan).


		
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Actually, there was a reason for that misrtake.  Gunmaster was actually cancelled with issue 88, dated Mar/April 1966.  Judomaster took over the numbering with #89, dated May/June 1966, right on schedule, presumably so that they could focus on an "Action Hero" rather than a western.  But for whatever reason, Charlton apparantly had one more issue of Gunmaster in the can and - well, waste not want not, so Gunmaster #89 came out over a year after #88.  It was dated Oct. 1967, the same month as Judomaster #97.  (Which was the next to last issue of Judomaster.)

David McL

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  The odd part is that, even while doing that, Charlton screwed up the numbering. You see, the last issue of Gunmaster was # 89, and the first issue of Judomaster was # 89, not # 90. Yes, there are thus two # 89's, one of which is a Gunmaster issue, the other of which is a Judomaster issue. However, the very first appearance of Judomaster was in Special War Series # 4, which was an anthology war title.
  Thus, Judomaster # 89 (his 'first issue', so to speak)....was also Judomaster's.....second appearance.


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You're not alone. Judomaster is also my favorite Action Hero. All of 
the Action heroes had a sense of realism (well maybe not Captain Atom 
but he's really from another era), but Judomaster's WWII setting gave 
his tales an immediate grittiness even the somewhat mannered Ditko 
material lacked. Judomaster and Tiger do evoke a Cap and Bucky feel 
for sure, but there is plenty to make them fresh and exciting.

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Going to put in the dissenting vote here on some of the heroes.  
charlton published too sporadically, and didn't really develop the 
characters beyond the initially fascinating ideas for each (E.g. does 
anybody else remember "The Tyro Team"?).  Now lack of character 
development was epidemic in the industry as it existed in the 
late '50s - what's now called "The Silver Age" - but superhero-type 
comics did become less rigid in formula and more interesting in the 
last, say 15-25 years.  Charlton was no longer around, but its heroes 
are, and have benefitted from the modern treatment.  Certainly The 
Question has been fleshed out into more than a faceless guy who beats 
up anybody that doesn't follow Ayn Rand's philosophy.  OK, Blue 
Beetle became a buffoon, but then he wasn't anything special after 
the Dan Garrett version of him anyway. 



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Sorry, but I disagree.  First, I think that the Charlton Ted Kord/BB was fa=
r superior to the Dan Garrett version.  I could not stand DC's version of C=
aptain Atom - and especially Nightshade.  As for the Question, I have to ad=
mit that he was a character I never cared for in any incarnation.
=20
And as for the Tyro Team, yeah, they could have used a lot more fleshing ou=
t, but then again, how much character development can one do in a single 8-=
page semi-origin story?  And since they never appeared again, it was a huge=
 potential that was simply never realized.  I will still say that Charlton =
Premiere #1, featuring the Tyro Team, Shape and The Spookman is my all-time=
 favorite comic book.
=20
And as for your assertion that today's comics are better than the Silver Ag=
e, I cannot disagree more strongly.  As far as I am concerned, the comic bo=
ok industry should have died in 1986.  It would have been far better than t=
he drek that has been put out since.  Yes, I kept buying and kept reading. =
 But if you look at Superman today, he not only doesn't look like Superman,=
 he doesn't even look the same in "Superman" and "Action."  Sometimes he do=
esn't even look the same from panel to panel.  Is that what you mean by "le=
ss rigid"?
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I keep up with what is gong on, and when Marvel "celebrates" the 500th issu=
e of the Avengers by killing off a bunch of characters, then no thanks.  Ha=
ppily, I had already dropped the title during the interminable Kang War sto=
ryline - a title I had bought religiously since 1964.  Now I have dropped e=
very other title I was reading.  The stories are stretched out beyond all c=
omprehension, the art is horrid, and reading new comics just makes me sad.
=20
David

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Going to put in the dissenting vote here on some of the heroes.=A0 <BR>
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--- Ron <raven@wizard.com> wrote:

> Going to put in the dissenting vote here on some of
> the heroes.  
> charlton published too sporadically, and didn't
> really develop the 
> characters beyond the initially fascinating ideas
> for each (E.g. does 
> anybody else remember "The Tyro Team"?).

And Spookman. However they were in a tryout &
evperimentation title that, itself, did not last.


> Now lack of character development was epidemic in
the industry as it existed in the late '50s - what's
now called "The Silver Age" - but superhero-type 
> comics did become less rigid in formula and more
> interesting in the last, say 15-25 years.  Charlton
was no longer around, but its heroes  are, and have
benefitted from the modern treatment. 
> Certainly The Question has been fleshed out into
more than a faceless guy who beats up anybody that
doesn't  > follow Ayn Rand's philosophy.

When did the Question have any space that would allow
for character development? He had five 8 pagers in
Blue Beetle. (With #5's closely tied to the Blue
Beetle story.) Then what are surely two inventory
shorts are given about a ten page finish to make the
contents of Mysterious Suspense #1. Add in the
unpublished story Toth drew and you still need a few
pin-ups to make an 80 Page Giant(tm).

I always saw Vic Sage as a man obsessed with the
truth.  In my home-brewed origin I figured the name
Sage had once been Sagekofski, or some such. His
family nearly destroyed by the lies and never shown
"lists" of the McCarthy witch hunts he would find the
real facts at all costs.

When the Question guested in DC's Blue Beetle I
expected great things. I have never been more
dissappointed in a single comic book than with The
Question #1. In fact I've been much less put out by
having a favorite title cancelled. Normally I like
Denny O'Neil, but NOT THIS TIME. Not only did he
ignore the Charlton version, the editors allowed him
to ignore what DC had just published. Ugh! 

> OK, Blue Beetle became a buffoon, but then he wasn't
anything special after the Dan Garrett version of him
anyway. 
> 

Which Dan Garrett? The Eisner shop's Green Hornet
rip-off? The much better known chain-mail brawler with
very limited powers? The later Fox one with the
Beetlemobile and powers like superman? The early 60's
Charlton version whose powers and supporting cast
changed every issue?

At least until the Dan Garrett - Ted Kord mystery got
explained the Ditko Blue Beetle was the best of the
bunch, IMO. 

The first few BB issues at DC were the Charlton BB
with an expanded cast. (Borrowed mostly from Tony
Stark.) He really did not become a bafoon until
confined to the JL title. You would, too, if they
locked you up with Booster Gold & Guy Gardner.


		
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I started a new album titled Charlton Animated Universe.  Feel free 
to enjoy the pics.



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Nice. Thanks for the images. While I've not been overcome with 
pleasure about the way the old Charlton heroes are showing up in the 
DCU, at least they aren't totally forgotten. I'm not holding my 
breath though for Judomaster.

Dean


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Dean,
 
I may have missed a post. Is there a new Judomaster series coming out from DC-?
 
Phil

Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:
Nice. Thanks for the images. While I've not been overcome with 
pleasure about the way the old Charlton heroes are showing up in the 
DCU, at least they aren't totally forgotten. I'm not holding my 
breath though for Judomaster.

Dean






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In a message dated 9/21/04 11:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

I may  have missed a post. Is there a new Judomaster series coming out from  
DC-?


Nope, but there's a new Son of Vulcan one come out. I guess he's supposed  to 
be the son of the Son of Vulcan.


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, David McLallen 
<dmclallen@e...> wrote:
> Sorry, but I disagree.  First, I think that the Charlton Ted 
Kord/BB was far superior to the Dan Garrett version.  I could not 
stand DC's version of Captain Atom - and especially Nightshade.  As 
for the Question, I have to admit that he was a character I never 
cared for in any incarnation.

--------------Agree that the DC version of the Ted Kord/Blue Beetle 
isn't anything to write home about.  The Dan Garrett version simply 
didn't get a chance to develop.  Both Captain Atom and Question have 
been given backgrounds, character development, and now interact with 
the other characters in their universe.  There was simply none of 
this as Charlton characters.  Question was indeed one-dimensional 
originally, having been a sanitized version of Steve Ditko's "Mister 
A" and while the DC character is certainly not always likeable he is 
certainly interesting.  
>  
> And as for the Tyro Team, yeah, they could have used a lot more 
fleshing out, but then again, how much character development can one 
do in a single 8-page semi-origin story?  And since they never 
appeared again, it was a huge potential that was simply never 
realized.  I will still say that Charlton Premiere #1, featuring the 
Tyro Team, Shape and The Spookman is my all-time favorite comic book.

-----------Absolutely, that was one of the alltime great superhero 
books.  And, here is why I am a fan of the "modern" incarnations of 
the Charlton characters (besides them being the templates for 
the "Watchmen").  Just as you say, "they could have used a lot more 
fleshing out,...a huge potential that was simply never realized."  
That describes just about all the Charlton characters.  Good ideas, 
nay great ideas, that simply vanished.  Even then, let alone in 
retrospect, I was always disappointed that Charlton never really did 
anything with the characters.

            Now, whether comics are better or worse today is a pure 
value judgment.  Certainly Marvel twisted around story lines to the 
point where some of their comics became simply unreadable (E.g. X-
Men).  But a lot of our evaluation of phenomena, and particularly 
entertainment media, is based on how we were exposed to it and when.  
Comics were exciting in the 1950s because we were exposed to them as 
children and they "spoke to us."  As adults now, they are not quite 
so compelling as an art form, as entertainment, and don't shape our 
view of what the world is or could be like. (For that matter, not 
sure they do so for children any more, since there are now so many 
more movies, TV, video games, etc.)  Whatever I derived from comics 
read as a child, when when I read these older comics now, or modern 
stories very deliberately done in a 1950s or 1960s style, they are 
just outright uninteresting.  On the other hand, when I read modern 
comics - which I no longer do regularly, but get various trade 
paperbacks from a local library - they are exciting, interesting, and 
I find I truly care about the characters as I'm reading their trials 
and tribulations.    



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The son of the Son of Vulcan-? Any idea as to when this will be coming out, how many issues (mini series, I presume-?0, creators EG: artists/-writers-? I have a handful of the 1960's Son of Vulcans but not all.
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
 Eastern Canada

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In a message dated 9/21/04 11:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

I may  have missed a post. Is there a new Judomaster series coming out from  
DC-?


Nope, but there's a new Son of Vulcan one come out. I guess he's supposed  to 
be the son of the Son of Vulcan.


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I've only read a blub that DC was actually thinking of some new 
project with SoV. I don't have any details on it. 

I have a hard time seeing how it will evoke any of the sense of wacky 
fun the original had though. Beyond the Blue Beetle, I've not seen 
much in the DC versions of the Charlton heroes that makes me want to 
see more. 

It's doubtless my prejudice for the original creators, but 
Thunderbolt is so much a Pete Morisi concept that it looks 
unrecognizable in other hands, regardless how skillful they might be. 
Same goes really for Pat Boyette and Peacemaker and Frank McLaughlin 
and Judomaster. The latter as drawn by Dick Giordano in the LAW 
limited series is doubtless the most accurate rendition of a Charlton 
hero to date, despite the new costume. Under the hand of the former 
Charlton Kahuna Giordano, Judomaster looked and felt right.

What I fear for SoV is that he will be transformed into yet one more 
whining and bitter complainer. Johnny Mann was a man who overcame his 
disability even before he became a scion of the gods, and he never 
seemed a loser to me. I have a hard time seeing how modern creators 
wouldn't come to that material and not turn him into a total victim 
of his fate. 

Dean


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Make the "blub" into "blurb" and my first comment will make a lot 
more sense (maybe). I don't really know what a "blub" is, but it 
doesn't sound good.

Dean (Master typist)


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Scott Beatty is the writer of the new SON OF VULCAN mini-series for DC 
Comics.

He wrote a long stint of BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS, BATGIRL: YEAR ONE, many 
many SECRET FILES and most of the Dorling Kindersley books on various DC 
Heroes.

Scott's website is at www.scottbeatty.com .

I'm not sure who the artist will be.

Scott McCullar


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>      1. Re: Re: New Judomaster series-?
>           From: atomjla@aol.com
>      2. Re: who likes the Charlton heroes like charlton did them
>           From: "Ron" <raven@wizard.com>
>      3. Re: Re: Re: New Judomaster series-?
>           From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
>      4. Re: New DC Son of Vulcan Series?
>           From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
>      5. Re: New DC Son of Vulcan Series?
>           From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
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>   Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:39:51 EDT
>   From: atomjla@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re: New Judomaster series-?
>
>
> In a message dated 9/21/04 11:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> I may  have missed a post. Is there a new Judomaster series coming out 
> from
> DC-?
>
>
> Nope, but there's a new Son of Vulcan one come out. I guess he's supposed 
> to
> be the son of the Son of Vulcan.
>
>
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>
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>
> Message: 2
>   Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:08:28 -0000
>   From: "Ron" <raven@wizard.com>
> Subject: Re: who likes the Charlton heroes like charlton did them
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, David McLallen
> <dmclallen@e...> wrote:
>> Sorry, but I disagree.  First, I think that the Charlton Ted
> Kord/BB was far superior to the Dan Garrett version.  I could not
> stand DC's version of Captain Atom - and especially Nightshade.  As
> for the Question, I have to admit that he was a character I never
> cared for in any incarnation.
>
> --------------Agree that the DC version of the Ted Kord/Blue Beetle
> isn't anything to write home about.  The Dan Garrett version simply
> didn't get a chance to develop.  Both Captain Atom and Question have
> been given backgrounds, character development, and now interact with
> the other characters in their universe.  There was simply none of
> this as Charlton characters.  Question was indeed one-dimensional
> originally, having been a sanitized version of Steve Ditko's "Mister
> A" and while the DC character is certainly not always likeable he is
> certainly interesting.
>>
>> And as for the Tyro Team, yeah, they could have used a lot more
> fleshing out, but then again, how much character development can one
> do in a single 8-page semi-origin story?  And since they never
> appeared again, it was a huge potential that was simply never
> realized.  I will still say that Charlton Premiere #1, featuring the
> Tyro Team, Shape and The Spookman is my all-time favorite comic book.
>
> -----------Absolutely, that was one of the alltime great superhero
> books.  And, here is why I am a fan of the "modern" incarnations of
> the Charlton characters (besides them being the templates for
> the "Watchmen").  Just as you say, "they could have used a lot more
> fleshing out,...a huge potential that was simply never realized."
> That describes just about all the Charlton characters.  Good ideas,
> nay great ideas, that simply vanished.  Even then, let alone in
> retrospect, I was always disappointed that Charlton never really did
> anything with the characters.
>
>            Now, whether comics are better or worse today is a pure
> value judgment.  Certainly Marvel twisted around story lines to the
> point where some of their comics became simply unreadable (E.g. X-
> Men).  But a lot of our evaluation of phenomena, and particularly
> entertainment media, is based on how we were exposed to it and when.
> Comics were exciting in the 1950s because we were exposed to them as
> children and they "spoke to us."  As adults now, they are not quite
> so compelling as an art form, as entertainment, and don't shape our
> view of what the world is or could be like. (For that matter, not
> sure they do so for children any more, since there are now so many
> more movies, TV, video games, etc.)  Whatever I derived from comics
> read as a child, when when I read these older comics now, or modern
> stories very deliberately done in a 1950s or 1960s style, they are
> just outright uninteresting.  On the other hand, when I read modern
> comics - which I no longer do regularly, but get various trade
> paperbacks from a local library - they are exciting, interesting, and
> I find I truly care about the characters as I'm reading their trials
> and tribulations.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
>   Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
>   From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: New Judomaster series-?
>
> The son of the Son of Vulcan-? Any idea as to when this will be coming 
> out, how many issues (mini series, I presume-?0, creators EG: 
> artists/-writers-? I have a handful of the 1960's Son of Vulcans but not 
> all.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
> Eastern Canada
>
> atomjla@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/21/04 11:12:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> I may  have missed a post. Is there a new Judomaster series coming out 
> from
> DC-?
>
>
> Nope, but there's a new Son of Vulcan one come out. I guess he's supposed 
> to
> be the son of the Son of Vulcan.
>
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> Message: 4
>   Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:36:15 -0000
>   From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: New DC Son of Vulcan Series?
>
> I've only read a blub that DC was actually thinking of some new
> project with SoV. I don't have any details on it.
>
> I have a hard time seeing how it will evoke any of the sense of wacky
> fun the original had though. Beyond the Blue Beetle, I've not seen
> much in the DC versions of the Charlton heroes that makes me want to
> see more.
>
> It's doubtless my prejudice for the original creators, but
> Thunderbolt is so much a Pete Morisi concept that it looks
> unrecognizable in other hands, regardless how skillful they might be.
> Same goes really for Pat Boyette and Peacemaker and Frank McLaughlin
> and Judomaster. The latter as drawn by Dick Giordano in the LAW
> limited series is doubtless the most accurate rendition of a Charlton
> hero to date, despite the new costume. Under the hand of the former
> Charlton Kahuna Giordano, Judomaster looked and felt right.
>
> What I fear for SoV is that he will be transformed into yet one more
> whining and bitter complainer. Johnny Mann was a man who overcame his
> disability even before he became a scion of the gods, and he never
> seemed a loser to me. I have a hard time seeing how modern creators
> wouldn't come to that material and not turn him into a total victim
> of his fate.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 5
>   Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:39:33 -0000
>   From: "Dean" <sonofvulcan@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: New DC Son of Vulcan Series?
>
> Make the "blub" into "blurb" and my first comment will make a lot
> more sense (maybe). I don't really know what a "blub" is, but it
> doesn't sound good.
>
> Dean (Master typist)
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Check out this 1967 Pat Boyette Classic from Charlton Premiere # 2 
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last friday golden age artist Fran Matera of Quality comics, charlton 
and marvel comics. who also has worked on the king features comic 
strip Steve Roper and Mike Nomad. Former artist of Bruce Lee.

HIs wife Pat passed away in her sleep. Any friends of old or fans of 
his work who would like to send their condolences please contact 
Geoff Brenneman at his email address
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Hello all,

Not only is the printed version of Charlton Spotlight slowly but
surely conquering the world, the electronic version is slowly
starting to be worthy of your notice.

Under the close supervision of Publisher Mike Ambrose, the next few
weeks will see changes to the site.

The first change will be that a new part of the site has been
opened. For some years I have collected biographical material for
all known persons working for Charlton. That includes the usual
artists, writers and editors, but also colorists, letterers,
assistant-editors, managers, owners et cetera. Mike urged me to make
this research available to you all, so here it is!

You can access it by going to http://www.charltonspotlight.com and
click on the "Personnel" heading in the left menu.

Enjoy, and please feel free to report any omissions or errors!

Best regards,
Ramon




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Here's link to some cover images for Korg and Yang. You don't see 
these books very often. Good stuff!

Dean

Here's the link:

http://thetrashcollector.bizland.com/comiccharlton.chtml




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Nice link, Dean. I got a stack of Yang's recently, reading them for the first time, I rather like them, gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. I wonder whatever did become of Warren Sattler-? People keep asking that in the Pro-zines but noone seems to know. I have most of the Yang run now, and one House of Yang, # 4. I don't have any Korg's though. Haven't seen any since the 1970's, don't think I ever owned any but I could be wrong. Fortunately I still have most of my comics, my mom didn't go on one of those comics-getting-rid-of-phases-to-save-my-mind-from-being-warped. OH-! THAT's what happened...
 
: - )
 
Phil Latter
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Dean <sonofvulcan@aol.com> wrote:

Here's link to some cover images for Korg and Yang. You don't see 
these books very often. Good stuff!

Dean


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Warren Sattler was a very good artist. That likely goes without 
saying for many here, but you never hear his name in the lists of 
Charlton greats (Aparo, Boyette, PAM, Ditko, etc.), and even when 
the later generation guys get a mention often Sattler's name doesn't 
rate a drop (Byrne, Staton, Newton, etc.). That's a pity. 

Sattler's Billy the Kid was a darn good western, with excellent 
atmosphere and well crafted storytelling. He brought that skill to a 
very peculiar comic, a true comic that was the product of its 
time...Yang. Without the TV show Kung-Fu there would have never been 
a Yang comic. Yang is a fairly straightforward rip-off of the 
premise, but it quickly goes beyond the limits of its inspiration 
and delivers solid pseudo-western entertainment. 

One area in which Sattler had trouble was drawing women; they never 
seemed particularly believable to me. I was much more taken with his 
men and in particular his horses. Sattler drew an excellent horse, 
nearly as good as Gil Kane. But aside from this weakness, Yang is a 
good read. The spin-off House of Yang by Sanho Kim is so 
dramatically different that its hard to compare them, but I believe 
that Sattler even had a hand in the last issue of that brief series. 

The Yang saga didn't last long, but it was  a good product of its 
time. 




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--- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Warren Sattler was a very good artist. That likely
> goes without  saying for many here, but you never
hear his name in the lists of Charlton greats (Aparo,
Boyette, PAM, Ditko, etc.), and even when 
> the later generation guys get a mention often
> Sattler's name doesn't rate a drop (Byrne, Staton,
Newton, etc.). That's a> pity. 

Probably because Yang is the only title most -fans-
read. In the 60's I was not a big fan of western
comics. As far as I could see Billy The Kid was only
one of many gunfighter comics that Marvel usually did
better than Charlton. That, and the fact that it
glorified a two-bit street thug.

I did read Gunmaster, Captain Doom, PAM's Loco, and of
course Wanndar.

Industrial Sized SNIP

> Yang is a good read. The spin-off House of Yang by  
> Sanho Kim is so dramatically different that its hard
> to compare  them, but I believe that Sattler even
had > a hand in the last issue of that brief series. 
> 
> The Yang saga didn't last long, but it was  a good
> product of its time.

Shan-Ho Kim, more properly Kim Shan Ho in his native
Korea, is possibly the only native Asian (not
Asian-American) to draw Asians, in an Asian style, for
American comics. Charlton let him do some interesting
things.

In 1972 I picked up an issue of Ghostly Tales in the
PX in Korea. As the cover story he'd written & drawn a
Korean set & styled ghost story in both Korean &
English. Every Korean I showed the issue to freaked
that some American publisher was open minded enough to
do that even once.

Kim also did his own take on "Kung-Fu", just a little
too late. "Wrong Country", I think it was called,
featured a Korean warrior in the American west. The
first episode eventually appeared in Charlton
Bullseye.



		
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I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what became of him-?
Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for 35+ years and I have never heard of PAM's LOCO. I love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his LOCO please-? Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?
 
Phil Latter
Canada
Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Warren Sattler was a very good artist. That likely
> goes without  saying for many here, but you never
hear his name in the lists of Charlton greats (Aparo,
Boyette, PAM, Ditko, etc.), and even when 
> the later generation guys get a mention often
> Sattler's name doesn't rate a drop (Byrne, Staton,
Newton, etc.). That's a> pity. 

Probably because Yang is the only title most -fans-
read. In the 60's I was not a big fan of western
comics. As far as I could see Billy The Kid was only
one of many gunfighter comics that Marvel usually did
better than Charlton. That, and the fact that it
glorified a two-bit street thug.

I did read Gunmaster, Captain Doom, PAM's Loco, and of
course Wanndar.

Industrial Sized SNIP

> Yang is a good read. The spin-off House of Yang by  
> Sanho Kim is so dramatically different that its hard
> to compare  them, but I believe that Sattler even
had > a hand in the last issue of that brief series. 
> 
> The Yang saga didn't last long, but it was  a good
> product of its time.

Shan-Ho Kim, more properly Kim Shan Ho in his native
Korea, is possibly the only native Asian (not
Asian-American) to draw Asians, in an Asian style, for
American comics. Charlton let him do some interesting
things.

In 1972 I picked up an issue of Ghostly Tales in the
PX in Korea. As the cover story he'd written & drawn a
Korean set & styled ghost story in both Korean &
English. Every Korean I showed the issue to freaked
that some American publisher was open minded enough to
do that even once.

Kim also did his own take on "Kung-Fu", just a little
too late. "Wrong Country", I think it was called,
featured a Korean warrior in the American west. The
first episode eventually appeared in Charlton
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And I respect that opinion, Dean. Really. Myself, I am more taken with women than with men. Or horses, for that matter....
 
: - )
 
Phil Latter
Canada, eh-?

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

Warren Sattler was a very good artist. That likely goes without 
saying for many here, but you never hear his name in the lists of 
Charlton greats (Aparo, Boyette, PAM, Ditko, etc.), and even when 
the later generation guys get a mention often Sattler's name doesn't 
rate a drop (Byrne, Staton, Newton, etc.). That's a pity. 

Sattler's Billy the Kid was a darn good western, with excellent 
atmosphere and well crafted storytelling. He brought that skill to a 
very peculiar comic, a true comic that was the product of its 
time...Yang. Without the TV show Kung-Fu there would have never been 
a Yang comic. Yang is a fairly straightforward rip-off of the 
premise, but it quickly goes beyond the limits of its inspiration 
and delivers solid pseudo-western entertainment. 

One area in which Sattler had trouble was drawing women; they never 
seemed particularly believable to me. I was much more taken with his 
men and in particular his horses. Sattler drew an excellent horse, 
nearly as good as Gil Kane. But aside from this weakness, Yang is a 
good read. The spin-off House of Yang by Sanho Kim is so 
dramatically different that its hard to compare them, but I believe 
that Sattler even had a hand in the last issue of that brief series. 

The Yang saga didn't last long, but it was  a good product of its 
time. 




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Ahem...allow me to clarify. 

Methinks I was unclear about my abiding interest in women. Despite 
Warren Sattler's affinity for drawing horse, his consumate skill 
never managed to abate my interest in the fairer sex. 

Actually it might have been better for me if they had. 

Alas.






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Dean,
 
Hi buddy. Actually, you were very clear. I knew you were talking about Sattler's greater skill at drawing men and horses than drawing women. I was just good-naturedly kidding you, my friend.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ahem...allow me to clarify. 

Methinks I was unclear about my abiding interest in women. Despite 
Warren Sattler's affinity for drawing horse, his consumate skill 
never managed to abate my interest in the fairer sex. 

Actually it might have been better for me if they had. 

Alas.


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Back in the good old days of newsstand distribution only, I can't recall ever having seen an issue of Yang on display.  Now, occasionally I'd get an issue of Yang from a nickel pile, but even that was very rare.  I agree that Warren was a nifty artist, but on occasion that Charlton printing was so bad it made me want to cry.  Charlton was not a company that would show art to best advantage, at least part of the time.

     Allen Smith

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--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what
> became of him-?
> Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for
> 35+ years and I have never heard of PAM's LOCO. I
> love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his LOCO
> please-? Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?
>  
> Phil Latter
> Canada

Phil,

LOCO, at least I think that was the title, appeared in
"Outlaws of the West" in the late 60's. I believe he
appeared in some of the same issues as Captain Doom
the one armed former Confederate officer. (About the
same time as Aparo's Wanndar in Chayanne Kid.)

IIRC, Loco was a fairly well educated Mexican who
lived around the U.S. / Mexican border. He received
his nickname because he fought like a crazy man with
both gun & knife. The fights he got into frequently
were, in part, racially motivated. He'd prefer to be
left alone, but...

I doubt there were ten stories. Hope this helps.

Bob


		
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This certainly does help, Bob. Thanks, my friend-!
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what
> became of him-?
> Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for
> 35+ years and I have never heard of PAM's LOCO. I
> love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his LOCO
> please-? Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?
>  
> Phil Latter
> Canada

Phil,

LOCO, at least I think that was the title, appeared in
"Outlaws of the West" in the late 60's. I believe he
appeared in some of the same issues as Captain Doom
the one armed former Confederate officer. (About the
same time as Aparo's Wanndar in Chayanne Kid.)

IIRC, Loco was a fairly well educated Mexican who
lived around the U.S. / Mexican border. He received
his nickname because he fought like a crazy man with
both gun & knife. The fights he got into frequently
were, in part, racially motivated. He'd prefer to be
left alone, but...

I doubt there were ten stories. Hope this helps.

Bob


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emailed this yesterday, still not here; so now hand posting it,  
pardon if it shows up again
(if it does, yall will note I made one correction!)

In a message dated 11/11/2004 9:49:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what became of him-?

http://www.record-journal.com/articles/2003/11/03/news/news02.txt

with a year old picture of him.  

>Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for 35+ years and I 
have never 
>heard of ?PAM's LOCO. I love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his 
LOCO please-? 
>Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?

MAN CALLED LOCO  was written by Denny ONeil.  
  there was one reprint comic by ACG-Avalon. I recall that both ONeil 
and PAM were replaced later in the strip's run.  


steven rowe










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In a message dated 11/11/2004 9:49:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what became of him-?
http://www.record-journal.com/articles/2003/11/03/news/news02.txt

with a year old picture of him.  

>Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for 35+ years and I have 
never 
>heard of ?PAM's LOCO. I love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his LOCO 
please-? 
>Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?

MAN CALLED LOCO  was written by Denny ONeil and appeared in CHEYENE KID
  there was one reprint comic by ACG-Avalon. I recall that both ONeil and PAM 
were replaced later in the strip's run.  


steven rowe


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Hi,
 
Belay my last email sent to you saying I couldn't find it on the web. This link worked just fine. Thanks-!
 
Phil Latter
Canada

stevenrowe29550 <sangorshop@aol.com> wrote:


emailed this yesterday, still not here; so now hand posting it,  
pardon if it shows up again
(if it does, yall will note I made one correction!)

In a message dated 11/11/2004 9:49:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>I LOVE Warren Sattler's stuff. Does anyone know what became of him-?

http://www.record-journal.com/articles/2003/11/03/news/news02.txt

with a year old picture of him.  

>Also, I have been reading and collecting comics for 35+ years and I 
have never 
>heard of ?PAM's LOCO. I love Morisi's stuff, so....tell me about his 
LOCO please-? 
>Was it at Charlton-? In which title-?

MAN CALLED LOCO  was written by Denny ONeil.  
  there was one reprint comic by ACG-Avalon. I recall that both ONeil 
and PAM were replaced later in the strip's run.  


steven rowe










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All THREE stories from this Classic Book from September 1967 can now 
be seen at the Following Groups-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/robotsrealm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/moreforgottenheroes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dead_heads

So check them out to see The Shape, The Tyro Team and Spookman in 
Action for the First,Last and ONLY time !

- Phabox




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I have fond childhood memories of Yang and House of Yang.  Are there 
any plans to put up scans of any of the stories from those titles?

Emily







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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...> 
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> story from E-Man # 4 can now be seen at - 
> 
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> and if anyone has the FIRST Killjoy story and would like to share 
it 
> I would be mighty glad to hear from them.                  - 
Phabox.

thanks so much. i have fond memories of getting these comics and no 
one else i've ever talked to knows who killjoy was. 







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nightwng99 <Nightwng99@aol.com> wrote:


I have fond childhood memories of Yang and House of Yang.  Are there=20
any plans to put up scans of any of the stories from those titles?

Emily

As luck would have it on my last visit to the Phabox Vault I  came across a=
 battered copy of Yang # 2 May 1974 that I did'nt even know that I owned, S=
oooo if no one else has any of this series already scanned at least I have =
this issue which could be used if wanted.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...>=20
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thanks so much. i have fond memories of getting these comics and no=20
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????????????????????????????????????????????????????=20


Hey Spiderj have you just stepped out of a time warp or what ??

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In a message dated 11/21/04 9:26:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
phabox@yahoo.com writes:

Emily

As luck would have it on my last visit to the Phabox Vault  I  came across a 
battered copy of Yang # 2 May 1974 that I did'nt even  know that I owned, 
Soooo if no one else has any of this series already scanned  at least I have this 
issue which could be used if  wanted.

-Phabox.



I would love to see it
 
Emily


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uh no i just found and joined this group yesterday. in any event, based on =
this smart ass response, i'll be 'unjoining' today then. good luck to ya

nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:


spiderj1971 wrote:


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox"=20

wrote:
> Hi Guys, just a short note to let you know that the Second Killjoy=20
> story from E-Man # 4 can now be seen at -=20
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> and if anyone has the FIRST Killjoy story and would like to share=20
it=20
> I would be mighty glad to hear from them. -=20
Phabox.

thanks so much. i have fond memories of getting these comics and no=20
one else i've ever talked to knows who killjoy was.

????????????????????????????????????????????????????=20


Hey Spiderj have you just stepped out of a time warp or what ??

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>  
> In a message dated 11/21/04 9:26:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
> phabox@y... writes:
> 
> Emily
> 
> As luck would have it on my last visit to the Phabox Vault  I  came 
across a 
> battered copy of Yang # 2 May 1974 that I did'nt even  know that I 
owned, 
> Soooo if no one else has any of this series already scanned  at 
least I have this 
> issue which could be used if  wanted.
> 
> -Phabox.
> 
> 
> 
> I would love to see it
>  
> Emily

NOT ENOUGH SPACE in the files yet Emily, if someone wants to make 
some room and give me a shout I  will come back and post the Yang 
story from this book.

- Phabox.
> 
> 
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on a story that I  thought was dead and gone long ago.

 anyway Time Warps arn't so bad, the 7sov came out of one and it=20
did'nt do THEM any harm !

And I Hope you do decide to stick around as I expect to be posting=20
the second Yang story here soon and it would'nt be the same without=20
you.

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Pretty thin-thicked, if you ask me.

x x <spiderj1971@yahoo.com> wrote:


uh no i just found and joined this group yesterday. in any event, based on =
this smart ass response, i'll be 'unjoining' today then. good luck to ya

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> I would be mighty glad to hear from them. -=20
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thanks so much. i have fond memories of getting these comics and no=20
one else i've ever talked to knows who killjoy was.

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Hey Spiderj have you just stepped out of a time warp or what ??

That was MONTHS ago that the Killjoy story was posted but i'm still glad th=
at you enjoyed it and I am STILL in the market for the first Killjoy story.

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havent yakked to Phillie for a while dean but I never forgot his kidding nature. I think he was jest ribbing u is all. How ya been??
 
xox
 
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Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


Ahem...allow me to clarify. 

Methinks I was unclear about my abiding interest in women. Despite 
Warren Sattler's affinity for drawing horse, his consumate skill 
never managed to abate my interest in the fairer sex. 

Actually it might have been better for me if they had. 

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The holidays are upon us (the cliche goes anyway) and with presents 
and thoughts of presents abounding, which Charlton treasures are on 
your wish list? 

Price is no object! Scarcity is no object! What will it be? 


For me:

Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #48 is the trick. It's the only Son 
of Vulcan adventure I don't currently have in hand, and the only one 
I've never read. 

After that I'd have to say a full set of Fightin' 5 would do the 
trick! Somewhat rare but worth the effort!

What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.

Dean




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In a message dated 12/11/2004 6:44:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
ripjagger@yahoo.com writes:
>What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.

the rest of the issues of Charlton's Funny Animals that I dont have
or for you big spenders, you could send me the rest of Atomic Mouse (include 
the issues that were never printed)

steven rowe

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:44:00 -0000, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The holidays are upon us (the cliche goes anyway) and with presents 
> and thoughts of presents abounding, which Charlton treasures are on 
> your wish list? 
> 
> Price is no object! Scarcity is no object! What will it be? 
> 
> 
> For me:
> 
> Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #48 is the trick. It's the only Son 
> of Vulcan adventure I don't currently have in hand, and the only one 
> I've never read. 
> 
> After that I'd have to say a full set of Fightin' 5 would do the 
> trick! Somewhat rare but worth the effort!
> 
> What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
A complete collection of the Lonely War of Willie Schultz in hardback.

Ric

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Dean,
 
Son of Vulcan-wise, I only need # 49 of Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. I'd like to have that.
 
I have all the Space Adv. featuring Cap Atom, and all the Strange Suspense Stories featuring Cap Atom, etc.
 
And all of the other Action Heroes. On my list though would be Blue Beetle Beetle # 51 (Dan Garrett issue just prior to the Ditko Ted Kord version); Blue Beetle # 51 is the only (1960's) issue that I need. 
 
Also on wish list: any issues of CPL (Contemporary Pictorial Literature) I don't have, a fanzine from 1960's about Charlton. I only have # 7,8, Double Issue # 9/-10 (also known as The Charlton Portfolio), and # 12. Interested in all others. All issues incredibly scarce.
 
Here is a question: does anyone have any other issues of CPL other than what I listed I have above-? I sure would love to see some cover scans of these-!!!
Also on my wish list would be: Fightin' Five # 28, 30,33,39, and # 42 through # 49 excepting # 44 which I do have...
 
Also on my wish list would be the rest of the Six Gun Heroes featuring Gunmaster, and Gunmaster comics that I do not have. I only have 4 or 5 of these.
What else are ya after, Dean-?
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Ric Croxton <ric.croxton@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:44:00 -0000, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The holidays are upon us (the cliche goes anyway) and with presents 
> and thoughts of presents abounding, which Charlton treasures are on 
> your wish list? 
> 
> Price is no object! Scarcity is no object! What will it be? 
> 
> 
> For me:
> 
> Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #48 is the trick. It's the only Son 
> of Vulcan adventure I don't currently have in hand, and the only one 
> I've never read. 
> 
> After that I'd have to say a full set of Fightin' 5 would do the 
> trick! Somewhat rare but worth the effort!
> 
> What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
A complete collection of the Lonely War of Willie Schultz in hardback.

Ric

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Good idea, Dean!
The ones that are proving difficult to find for me are the Golden Age 
Charltons: Yellowjacket, Blue Beetle, etc. Not so much the funny 
animals, but the more serious stuff. After that, the 50s heroes: Mr 
Muscles, ZaZa the Mystic and so on. Then, the obscure small runs, 
such as Sherlock Holmes and Scotland Yard. Right after that... you 
get the picture!
Best,
Ramon

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <ripjagger@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> The holidays are upon us (the cliche goes anyway) and with presents 
> and thoughts of presents abounding, which Charlton treasures are on 
> your wish list? 
> 
> Price is no object! Scarcity is no object! What will it be? 
> 
> 
> For me:
> 
> Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #48 is the trick. It's the only Son 
> of Vulcan adventure I don't currently have in hand, and the only 
one 
> I've never read. 
> 
> After that I'd have to say a full set of Fightin' 5 would do the 
> trick! Somewhat rare but worth the effort!
> 
> What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.
> 
> Dean




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Speaking of Yellowjacket, Ramon,
 
I have four Golden Age Yellowjacket and wish I had more. I wish I had the other six, plus TNT Comics # 1 and Jack and The Box # 1, both of which have Yellowjacket in them. I have colour exeroxes of TNT Comics # 1, at least the part that has Yellowjacket in it, and he is in a different costume, but the same guy, same secret identity. Only the costume is different.
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Good idea, Dean!
The ones that are proving difficult to find for me are the Golden Age 
Charltons: Yellowjacket, Blue Beetle, etc. Not so much the funny 
animals, but the more serious stuff. After that, the 50s heroes: Mr 
Muscles, ZaZa the Mystic and so on. Then, the obscure small runs, 
such as Sherlock Holmes and Scotland Yard. Right after that... you 
get the picture!
Best,
Ramon

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wrote:
> 
> The holidays are upon us (the cliche goes anyway) and with presents 
> and thoughts of presents abounding, which Charlton treasures are on 
> your wish list? 
> 
> Price is no object! Scarcity is no object! What will it be? 
> 
> 
> For me:
> 
> Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #48 is the trick. It's the only Son 
> of Vulcan adventure I don't currently have in hand, and the only 
one 
> I've never read. 
> 
> After that I'd have to say a full set of Fightin' 5 would do the 
> trick! Somewhat rare but worth the effort!
> 
> What about you all? I'm sure I'll think of more.
> 
> Dean




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The G.A. Yellowjacket (mid-1940's) was an early
Charlton?

--- Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good idea, Dean!
> The ones that are proving difficult to find for me
> are the Golden Age Charltons: Yellowjacket, Blue
Beetle, etc. Not so much the funny  animals, but the
more serious stuff. After that, the 50s heroes: Mr 
> Muscles, ZaZa the Mystic and so on. Then, the
> obscure small runs, such as Sherlock Holmes and
Scotland Yard. Right after that... you  get the
picture!
> Best,
> Ramon


		
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In a message dated 12/13/2004 12:53:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
erwin_k_r@yahoo.com writes:
>The G.A. Yellowjacket (mid-1940's) was an early
>Charlton?

yes he was

steven rowe

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Mine would be Space Adventures 14 (1954) - in a year
of looking on ebay and every dealer site on the web
I've only ever seen one copy (sold on Heritage). I
think it's very rare.

Additionally,
1. Charlton Bullseye Special - it DOES exist!
2. High grade copies of Nature Boy 3 and 4
3. The Guide to Comics Art
4. The CPL issues apart From Charlton Portfolio.

any one selling any of the above?

cheers
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Ewan,
 
Very respectfully meant, how do you know that the Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 does, indeed, exist-? I'm not disputing your point of view at all. I am only asking, do you have proof positive that it does exist-? I read an interview awhile ago with the artists/-writers of it that even they are unaware as to whether it was definately published or not.  I am interested to know because it has been on my Want List for several years. There are two widespread schools on thought on this: that it both does and does not exist. 
 
Both # 1 and # 2 are listed in the Overstreet Price Guide each year, yet some dealers have told me (as well as that interview) that # 2 does not exist. I believe this. But, does # 1 exist-? Noone can seem to agree. By proof that exists, I don't mean, have you seen its cover on, say, the internet. Because, the cover was prepared. Which is, of course, no proof (by itself) that # 1 was in fact published.
 
The Overstreet Price does list some items that are not documented to definately exist.
 
Have you seen a Charlton Bullseye Special # 1, meaning, physically, in person, viewed a copy-? Does anyone on the list know, definitively, if it exists-? And if not (of course), this is in no way proof that it does not exist, either.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Hannah Brownlow <hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Mine would be Space Adventures 14 (1954) - in a year
of looking on ebay and every dealer site on the web
I've only ever seen one copy (sold on Heritage). I
think it's very rare.

Additionally,
1. Charlton Bullseye Special - it DOES exist!
2. High grade copies of Nature Boy 3 and 4
3. The Guide to Comics Art
4. The CPL issues apart From Charlton Portfolio.

any one selling any of the above?

cheers
Ewan




            


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Hi, gang:

T.C. Ford here...

In case you're interested...UNITED COMICS (my publishing house) has just 
released Shockwave #0, featuring material from myself, current DC 'Flash' 
artist Howard Porter and others. 

It can be ordered now at www.comixpress.com and last page of the comic 
shows you the NEXT ISSUE cover art...we are re-presenting Charlton Bullseye 
Special #1! 

Yes, Shockwave #1 (due out in February direct from me, Spring through the 
distributors) will feature the contents of Bullseye Special with some minor 
tweaking (I'm digitally relettering the Vengeance Squad story, since the 
characters are now Team: Danger...Roger Broughton owns the V-Squad name), 
along with an updated version of the article I did in Comic Book Artist 
magazine's 2nd Charlton issue.

Also, as a by the by, George Wildman is selling some pages of originals 
he's accumulated over the years. If anyone is interested, I should be 
posting a list of what he's selling either Friday or Monday, along with 
prices. I believe it's mostly Popeye stuff, but won't know until Friday...  
  
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>   Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:31:14 +0000 (GMT)
>   From: Hannah Brownlow <hannahbrownlow@yahoo.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Re: What Charlton Do You Most Want For Christmas?
>
>Mine would be Space Adventures 14 (1954) - in a year
>of looking on ebay and every dealer site on the web
>I've only ever seen one copy (sold on Heritage). I
>think it's very rare.
>
>Additionally,
>1. Charlton Bullseye Special - it DOES exist!
>2. High grade copies of Nature Boy 3 and 4
>3. The Guide to Comics Art
>4. The CPL issues apart From Charlton Portfolio.
>
>any one selling any of the above?
>
>cheers
>Ewan
>
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Hi:

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus...sorta.

I was the Editor who put that issue together. Issue #1 was produced 
(work done, film shot, etc.), but I left Charlton before seeing the 
final copies created. It was to have been printed originally at 
Sleepeck Printing, the company that handled the printing of Comico's 
books, before their DC deal. The final comics ended up being printed 
on Charlton's own press (as was told to me by someone in production 
who I ran into later after Charlton became a strip mall). I don't 
know how many copies were printed, I would assume less than the 
30,000 copies ordered by the distributors, as we would have all seen 
it. I have all the original art from the issue, and will be re-
presenting it soon. I sent a post out last night (which had some 
trouble sending, hopefully it gets through...) with more detail, so I 
won't rehash that.

Issue #2 was never completed. It was an Atomic Mouse issue that would 
have set the stage for a multi-company crossover (Atomic Mouse would 
have ended up in comics at other companies until finally coming back 
to Charlton in his own comic). Cover by Milton Knight, Jr. was done, 
and the issue was written and pencilled but never inked. Steve Hauk 
(who ended up working on Fish Police and some stuff for 
Marvel...Barbie I think) drew it.

Roger Broughton (the current rights holder) wanted to purchase what I 
had, but I declined. I tried to get him to let me revive Charlton 
material under my United Comics imprint, but he had (has? haven't 
heard from him or his representative in a while...) "bigger plans for 
the characters". In fact, he may have the film from the book (even 
though he can't contractually print it, since I own all the material 
I created for Charlton).

T.C. Ford
United Comics
http://www.unitedcomicworks.com


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> Ewan,
>  
> Very respectfully meant, how do you know that the Charlton Bullseye 
Special # 1 does, indeed, exist-? I'm not disputing your point of 
view at all. I am only asking, do you have proof positive that it 
does exist-? I read an interview awhile ago with the artists/-writers 
of it that even they are unaware as to whether it was definately 
published or not.  I am interested to know because it has been on my 
Want List for several years. There are two widespread schools on 
thought on this: that it both does and does not exist. 
>  
> Both # 1 and # 2 are listed in the Overstreet Price Guide each 
year, yet some dealers have told me (as well as that interview) that 
# 2 does not exist. I believe this. But, does # 1 exist-? Noone can 
seem to agree. By proof that exists, I don't mean, have you seen its 
cover on, say, the internet. Because, the cover was prepared. Which 
is, of course, no proof (by itself) that # 1 was in fact published.
>  
> The Overstreet Price does list some items that are not documented 
to definately exist.
>  
> Have you seen a Charlton Bullseye Special # 1, meaning, physically, 
in person, viewed a copy-? Does anyone on the list know, 
definitively, if it exists-? And if not (of course), this is in no 
way proof that it does not exist, either.
>  
> Best Wishes,
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 
> Hannah Brownlow <hannahbrownlow@y...> wrote:
> Mine would be Space Adventures 14 (1954) - in a year
> of looking on ebay and every dealer site on the web
> I've only ever seen one copy (sold on Heritage). I
> think it's very rare.
> 
> Additionally,
> 1. Charlton Bullseye Special - it DOES exist!
> 2. High grade copies of Nature Boy 3 and 4
> 3. The Guide to Comics Art
> 4. The CPL issues apart From Charlton Portfolio.
> 
> any one selling any of the above?
> 
> cheers
> Ewan








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Hello T.C.,
Yes indeed, I am mighty interested. Keep us posted on how to order, 
will you?
Best regards,
Ramon

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "T.C." <realartist1999@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Hi, gang:
> 
> T.C. Ford here...
> 
> In case you're interested...UNITED COMICS (my publishing house) has 
just 
> released Shockwave #0, featuring material from myself, current 
DC 'Flash' 
> artist Howard Porter and others. 
> 
> It can be ordered now at www.comixpress.com and last page of the 
comic 
> shows you the NEXT ISSUE cover art...we are re-presenting Charlton 
Bullseye 
> Special #1! 
> 
> Yes, Shockwave #1 (due out in February direct from me, Spring 
through the 
> distributors) will feature the contents of Bullseye Special with 
some minor 
> tweaking (I'm digitally relettering the Vengeance Squad story, 
since the 
> characters are now Team: Danger...Roger Broughton owns the V-Squad 
name), 
> along with an updated version of the article I did in Comic Book 
Artist 
> magazine's 2nd Charlton issue.
> 
> Also, as a by the by, George Wildman is selling some pages of 
originals 
> he's accumulated over the years. If anyone is interested, I should 
be 
> posting a list of what he's selling either Friday or Monday, along 
with 
> prices. I believe it's mostly Popeye stuff, but won't know until 
Friday...  
>   
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> ...... Original Message .......
> On 15 Dec 2004 04:56:59 -0000 CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com 
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> >There is 1 message in this issue.
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> >Subject: Re: Re: What Charlton Do You Most Want For Christmas?
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> >Mine would be Space Adventures 14 (1954) - in a year
> >of looking on ebay and every dealer site on the web
> >I've only ever seen one copy (sold on Heritage). I
> >think it's very rare.
> >
> >Additionally,
> >1. Charlton Bullseye Special - it DOES exist!
> >2. High grade copies of Nature Boy 3 and 4
> >3. The Guide to Comics Art
> >4. The CPL issues apart From Charlton Portfolio.
> >
> >any one selling any of the above?
> >
> >cheers
> >Ewan
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Hi:

Those of you who have ordered Shockwave #0 from us at either 
www.unitedcomicworks.com or www.comixpress.com (quite a few of 
you...!)- thanks for your support!

Just to let you know, Shockwave #1 (the re-presented Charlton 
Bullseye Special #1) will not be orderable from us until February 1, 
2005. I'll update you with more details as we get closer to press.

George Wildman has been busy moving his daughter, and so has only 
brought a few things up for sale. More will be coming after the 
holidays.

Right now, the following is available:

From Looney Tunes, published by DC (unfortunately I do not have issue 
numbers, as material was given inventory numbers instead. But all 
were done in 1995.)

George requests that these stories be sold complete (no publishing 
rights given or implied). Each page is $45, shipping/insurance is 
additional.

MARVIN THE MARTIAN in "Plan K-9 from Outer Space" (WB223) - 18 pages.

BUGS BUNNY in "A Tale Of Two Bugs" (WB876) - 10 pages.

eMail me: realArtist1999@yahoo.com for more information.

TC Ford




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Yet another giant in the comics field has passed away. Eisner's
influence on the comic book field cannot be overestimated. His
particular way of producing "sequential art" transformed the way the
comic book page looked. Eisner is the only pure comic book artist
more influential than Jack Kirby.

Dean






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Hello All,

This afternoon I've placed the cover and ten pages of Ghostly Tales
#101 in the files at the annex. Sanho Kim's Korean ghost story runs
sixteen pages plus his text background page.

I still have a little processing to do on the remaining pages. I'll
try to get the rest up in the next 24 hours.

Since I bought this story while stationed in Korea I have commented
the pages pretty heavily. I'll be glad to answer any questions about
the story or my comments to the best of my ability.

Best,

Bob Kennedy


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/




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I was able to view the cover before downloads limit hit. Korea has
interested me too, my Dad was there and wounded in the war.

Ric Croxton


On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:16:14 -0000, erwin_k_r <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> This afternoon I've placed the cover and ten pages of Ghostly Tales
> #101 in the files at the annex. Sanho Kim's Korean ghost story runs
> sixteen pages plus his text background page.
> 
> I still have a little processing to do on the remaining pages. I'll
> try to get the rest up in the next 24 hours.
> 
> Since I bought this story while stationed in Korea I have commented
> the pages pretty heavily. I'll be glad to answer any questions about
> the story or my comments to the best of my ability.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Bob Kennedy
> 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/
> 
> 
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In Charlton's heyday , were their comics , possibly , extra-strong in
distribution to military 
accounts , PXs and FEs and whatever other words there are for
on-post/whatever retail 
outlets ???????
  Those " Servicemen - Your Credit Is Good ! " installment plan
diamond ads appeared in 
Charltons , and no other comics of the eriod , IIRC . That would sure
appear to suggest 
that they had a large service audience , ( And - Charlton
distributing themselves , 
remember . ) and let the companies selling those things know it .
  Perhaps one way , then , that C. kept their comics profitable ,
given the often-perceived 
deficency in C.'s distribution to normal retail outlets , was that -
Well , I said it .
  With a whole line of magazines on offer , the comics could've been
offered along with Hit 
Parader , Real West , etc. " Back in the days " , military sales were
a major part of comics 
sales . Anybody have any memory/knowledge about Chrlton's
distribution to Service-
market accounts ???????







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By the time I entered the Army in 1969 Charlton had
very little to interest me. Ghostly Tales #101 with
the Korean ghost story I posted at the annex may have
been the only Charlton book I bought while serving.

Even large PX's of that era only had a relative few
comics. Stateside I relied on convience stores and the
like in '70 & '71. In Korea in '72 I tried to arrange
a two hour ride once a week to Osan Air Force Base
which had a Stars & Stripes Bookstore. They carried a
full line of comics. My next assignment was San
Francisco where I patronized a comic shop near the
TransAmerica building.

--- jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> In Charlton's heyday , were their comics , possibly
> , extra-strong in
> distribution to military 
> accounts , PXs and FEs and whatever other words
> there are for
> on-post/whatever retail 
> outlets ???????
>   Those " Servicemen - Your Credit Is Good ! "
> installment plan
> diamond ads appeared in 
> Charltons , and no other comics of the eriod , IIRC
> . That would sure
> appear to suggest 
> that they had a large service audience , ( And -
> Charlton
> distributing themselves , 
> remember . ) and let the companies selling those
> things know it .
>   Perhaps one way , then , that C. kept their comics
> profitable ,
> given the often-perceived 
> deficency in C.'s distribution to normal retail
> outlets , was that -
> Well , I said it .
>   With a whole line of magazines on offer , the
> comics could've been
> offered along with Hit 
> Parader , Real West , etc. " Back in the days " ,
> military sales were
> a major part of comics 
> sales . Anybody have any memory/knowledge about
> Chrlton's
> distribution to Service-
> market accounts ???????
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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--- In Ch





...I'm quite interested in statements that there were , well-known , 
and near to a ( Then quite new . ) famous/" fancy " building , at 
that , so in an expensive " hood " ( Or , near one , anyhows . ) , 
comic shops in 1972/3 !!!!!!!!! Where , in relation to the 
TransAmerica Pyramid , was it ??????? I'm not disbelieving you , I 
know you're right...
  I never even was inside anything like a comics shop until well into 
the Eighties ( I'd moved away from CBs in the late Seventies . )...

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@y...> wrote:
> By the time I entered the Army in 1969 Charlton had
> very little to interest me. Ghostly Tales #101 with
> the Korean ghost story I posted at the annex may have
> been the only Charlton book I bought while serving.
> 
> Even large PX's of that era only had a relative few
> comics. Stateside I relied on convience stores and the
> like in '70 & '71. In Korea in '72 I tried to arrange
> a two hour ride once a week to Osan Air Force Base
> which had a Stars & Stripes Bookstore. They carried a
> full line of comics. My next assignment was San
> Francisco where I patronized a comic shop near the
> TransAmerica building.
> 
> --- jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@y...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > In Charlton's heyday , were their comics , possibly
> > , extra-strong in
> > distribution to military 
> > accounts , PXs and FEs and whatever other words
> > there are for
> > on-post/whatever retail 
> > outlets ???????
> >   Those " Servicemen - Your Credit Is Good ! "
> > installment plan
> > diamond ads appeared in 
> > Charltons , and no other comics of the eriod , IIRC
> > . That would sure
> > appear to suggest 
> > that they had a large service audience , ( And -
> > Charlton
> > distributing themselves , 
> > remember . ) and let the companies selling those
> > things know it .
> >   Perhaps one way , then , that C. kept their comics
> > profitable ,
> > given the often-perceived 
> > deficency in C.'s distribution to normal retail
> > outlets , was that -
> > Well , I said it .
> >   With a whole line of magazines on offer , the
> > comics could've been
> > offered along with Hit 
> > Parader , Real West , etc. " Back in the days " ,
> > military sales were
> > a major part of comics 
> > sales . Anybody have any memory/knowledge about
> > Chrlton's
> > distribution to Service-
> > market accounts ???????
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> __________________________________ 
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> The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do?
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I haven't been back to San Francisco since 1974 so my
memories are a bit vague. I was coming mostly north
from the Presidio where I was stationed.

Was it Columbus street that had the famous/imfamous
topless clubs at that time? Anyway, if you went back
toward the Presidio on the street with the clubs a few
blocks there was an intersection where the streets
crossed about like the letter "X". Take a -very- sharp
right turn onto the leg of the "X" that heads back
toward the bay. The shop was within a block or two of
that intersection. (For all I know that site is now a
ten story parking garage.)

Now in Kansas City, Clint's Comics came into existance
by about 1969 or so. My wife even worked there briefly
while I was Korea in 1972.

--- waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- In Ch

> ...I'm quite interested in statements that there
> were , well-known , 
> and near to a ( Then quite new . ) famous/" fancy "
> building , at 
> that , so in an expensive " hood " ( Or , near one ,
> anyhows . ) , 
> comic shops in 1972/3 !!!!!!!!! Where , in relation
> to the 
> TransAmerica Pyramid , was it ??????? I'm not
> disbelieving you , I 
> know you're right...
>   I never even was inside anything like a comics
> shop until well into 
> the Eighties ( I'd moved away from CBs in the late
> Seventies . )...


		
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--- In Ch






...Well - ha . Maybe not in quite such a " nice " nabe then , eh ????????? I DID revise my 
original posting that way , ya know...
  Anyway , thank you !!!!!!!!!
  Did Clint's sell new stuff ? Did they have a newsstand account , to do so ???????

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@y...> wrote:
> I haven't been back to San Francisco since 1974 so my
> memories are a bit vague. I was coming mostly north
> from the Presidio where I was stationed.
> 
> Was it Columbus street that had the famous/imfamous
> topless clubs at that time? Anyway, if you went back
> toward the Presidio on the street with the clubs a few
> blocks there was an intersection where the streets
> crossed about like the letter "X". Take a -very- sharp
> right turn onto the leg of the "X" that heads back
> toward the bay. The shop was within a block or two of
> that intersection. (For all I know that site is now a
> ten story parking garage.)
> 
> Now in Kansas City, Clint's Comics came into existance
> by about 1969 or so. My wife even worked there briefly
> while I was Korea in 1972.
> 
> --- waltsland_2008 <waltsland_2008@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In Ch
> 
> > ...I'm quite interested in statements that there
> > were , well-known , 
> > and near to a ( Then quite new . ) famous/" fancy "
> > building , at 
> > that , so in an expensive " hood " ( Or , near one ,
> > anyhows . ) , 
> > comic shops in 1972/3 !!!!!!!!! Where , in relation
> > to the 
> > TransAmerica Pyramid , was it ??????? I'm not
> > disbelieving you , I 
> > know you're right...
> >   I never even was inside anything like a comics
> > shop until well into 
> > the Eighties ( I'd moved away from CBs in the late
> > Seventies . )...
> 
> 
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I was surprised that nobody had posted the DC Direct characters that 
are from the Charlton libary.  The new one is Captain Atom how still 
in pre-order.




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I didnt know there was going to be a Cap Atom figure. I have the Question one. I like the new ? series. What version of Cap Atom will it be??
 
Kendra Stewart

eli <chezvid_2@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was surprised that nobody had posted the DC Direct characters that 
are from the Charlton libary. The new one is Captain Atom how still 
in pre-order.



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SUPERMAN/BATMAN SERIES 1: PUBLIC ENEMIES: CAPTAIN ATOM ACTION FIGURE=20

Based on the art of Ed McGuinness! The atomically powered Captain=20
Atom reluctantly confronts the World's Finest team on the order of=20
his evil Commander-in-Chief. This figure features multiple points of=20
articulation and includes a Superman/Batman logo base. Packaged in a=20
4-color deluxe blister.=20

Advance-solicited; on sale August 17 =95 Action Figure =95 6.75" H =95 PI




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Does anyone have any Muscle Man and Nature Boy scans?
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I don't have an immediate answer to this one, but I'm curious. Ask 
me what my fave Charlton feature is and I will certainly respond 
with Judomaster or Thunderbolt or some other great Action hero. But 
what regular feature is your favorite from the genre books?

The candidates for me are:

Man Called Lobo, 
Doomsday+1,
Hercules,
and Dr.Graves

but I haven't decided yet. I'll have to think more.

What's your choice?




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That is a tough question.  I first started reading Charlton about  forty 
years ago (no, no longer have those issues or many other issues of  anything, 
alas).  Hercules was pretty good, loved that Glanzman art.   Non-action hero 
character?  I don't really have a favorite, but I'd say  that the Charlton Hot Rod 
comics were among my genre favorites.  At the  same time he was drawing Kid 
Colt, Keller was doing a good solid job drawing the  various Charlton hot rod 
characters.  I wish someone would do a quick  article on these, I hardly ever 
read anything about Keller or the Charlton hot  rod comics.  I gather Keller 
knew his way anound an automobile  engine.
 
     Allen Smith


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For me it would have to be Sarge Steel, Fast moving stories and great Dick Giordano artwork who could ask for more ?

I  met Dick a few years back and he told me that this guy was one of his own favourites.
 
Seems to me a little while back Sarge had his own Yahoo Group but it appears to have vanished into the Yahoo Twilight Zone.
 
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While none of them were consistantly great, or even
good, the Charlton Fantastic Giant Monster(tm) comics
had a lot of fun stories. They ranged from the very
serious to the 'funny by accident' to the very funny
on purpose.


--- bigal4151@aol.com wrote:

> That is a tough question.  I first started reading
> Charlton about  forty 
> years ago (no, no longer have those issues or many
> other issues of  anything, 
> alas).  Hercules was pretty good, loved that
> Glanzman art.   Non-action hero 
> character?  I don't really have a favorite, but I'd
> say  that the Charlton Hot Rod 
> comics were among my genre favorites.  At the  same
> time he was drawing Kid 
> Colt, Keller was doing a good solid job drawing the 
> various Charlton hot rod 
> characters.  I wish someone would do a quick 
> article on these, I hardly ever 
> read anything about Keller or the Charlton hot  rod
> comics.  I gather Keller 
> knew his way anound an automobile  engine.
>  
>      Allen Smith
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



		
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I liked Sarge Steel also.  Too, bad there isn't currently a group for him.  I also liked the Fithin' Five and the Tyro Team.  You can add the Sentinels to that.  They were all short-lived, but I think they had much potential.
John Packer

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For me it would have to be Sarge Steel, Fast moving stories and great Dick Giordano artwork who could ask for more ?

I  met Dick a few years back and he told me that this guy was one of his own favourites.

Seems to me a little while back Sarge had his own Yahoo Group but it appears to have vanished into the Yahoo Twilight Zone.

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  I've started a group for 20the Century comic strip " STEVE ROPER & 
MIKE NOMAD " and all of this long-running strip's , started during 
FDR's first term !!! , manifestations .
  My name was a trifle too long to fit in a link...I think...I'll try 
this time...
http://groups.yahoo.com/groupsteveropermikenomadsmartinimemoriallounge







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fellas i kinda like vengeancesquad. i like petes art & th story tho simplistic was grate!! i liked 6 million$ man comicsboth mag n comic. bionic woman, space1999 2.
 
Kendra

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't have an immediate answer to this one, but I'm curious. Ask 
me what my fave Charlton feature is and I will certainly respond 
with Judomaster or Thunderbolt or some other great Action hero. But 
what regular feature is your favorite from the genre books?

The candidates for me are:

Man Called Lobo, 
Doomsday+1,
Hercules,
and Dr.Graves

but I haven't decided yet. I'll have to think more.

What's your choice?





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The Fightin' Five a Blackhawk type groups except they weren't pilots.

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>
>
> I don't have an immediate answer to this one, but I'm curious. Ask
> me what my fave Charlton feature is and I will certainly respond
> with Judomaster or Thunderbolt or some other great Action hero. But
> what regular feature is your favorite from the genre books?
>
> The candidates for me are:
>
> Man Called Lobo,
> Doomsday+1,
> Hercules,
> and Dr.Graves
>
> but I haven't decided yet. I'll have to think more.
>
> What's your choice?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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> 





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My favorites included Wander, Capt. Doom, and Gunmaster.
 

		
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seen visuals of gunmaster on th' net but have none. What comix was he in & how many issues werethere???
 
thanks. kendra
 


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Charlton's 'Hercules' series was one of the best things the company 
ever did, and I find the series far better than any other company's 
use of a character with the same name, although I'm sure there are 
those who prefer Marvel's version of Hercules. The short-lived 'Iron 
Corporal' series, which contained a rare focus on the Australian 
World War II experience was also several cuts above most war comics.

Sorry, but I find the post-code ghost/supernatural/mild horror comics 
to be too mild as compared to pre-code stories. Charlton was capable 
of producing solid horror material, so I find the post-code stuff to 
be pretty pathetic, but there are a different set of conventions at 
work in the post-code stuff, so when one began reading comics has a 
lot to do with what one will value in the genre. 

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <ripjagger@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> I don't have an immediate answer to this one, but I'm curious. Ask 
> me what my fave Charlton feature is and I will certainly respond 
> with Judomaster or Thunderbolt or some other great Action hero. But 
> what regular feature is your favorite from the genre books?
> 
> The candidates for me are:
> 
> Man Called Lobo, 
> Doomsday+1,
> Hercules,
> and Dr.Graves
> 
> but I haven't decided yet. I'll have to think more.
> 
> What's your choice?




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I too, think Charlton's Hercules was very good.  It did him in his period.  For a Hercules done outside of his period, I like DC's Hercules series that took place in the future.
John Packer.  

jfglade <jfglade@yahoo.com> wrote:

Charlton's 'Hercules' series was one of the best things the company 
ever did, and I find the series far better than any other company's 
use of a character with the same name, although I'm sure there are 
those who prefer Marvel's version of Hercules. The short-lived 'Iron 
Corporal' series, which contained a rare focus on the Australian 
World War II experience was also several cuts above most war comics.

Sorry, but I find the post-code ghost/supernatural/mild horror comics 
to be too mild as compared to pre-code stories. Charlton was capable 
of producing solid horror material, so I find the post-code stuff to 
be pretty pathetic, but there are a different set of conventions at 
work in the post-code stuff, so when one began reading comics has a 
lot to do with what one will value in the genre. 

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <ripjagger@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> I don't have an immediate answer to this one, but I'm curious. Ask 
> me what my fave Charlton feature is and I will certainly respond 
> with Judomaster or Thunderbolt or some other great Action hero. But 
> what regular feature is your favorite from the genre books?
> 
> The candidates for me are:
> 
> Man Called Lobo, 
> Doomsday+1,
> Hercules,
> and Dr.Graves
> 
> but I haven't decided yet. I'll have to think more.
> 
> What's your choice?




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My favorite would have to be Kid Montana, Just always liked the 
graying cowboy, plus is their anything harder to find than complete 
runs of charlton  westerns? Side note I think this forum is great 
charlton was always my favorite publisher I just loved quirky 
underdogs and they certainly fit the bill.







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I have started a Steve Roper & Mike Nomad group .
  It was the discussion here , involving Army Of Gideon ( Still 
there ????? ) , that helped raise my interest in the strip , as well 
as the fact that there's been discussion here already! , so , it's 
not OT !!!!!!! Sez I .
  I gave an overly , perhaps , " cute " name , that's too long for a 
link to go up , to my Steve Roper & Mike Nomad group .
  Just enter " Steve Roper , Mike Nomad " , in the " Find " .







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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "chrisgentz" 
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> 
> 
> My favorite would have to be Kid Montana, Just always liked the 
> graying cowboy, plus is their anything harder to find than complete 
> runs of charlton  westerns? Side note I think this forum is great 
> charlton was always my favorite publisher I just loved quirky 
> underdogs and they certainly fit the bill.



  I myself always enjoyed the war comics they produced.There stories 
were great even though they didn't have a Sgt Rock or Sgt Fury. I 
myself like the underdog.




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A 2001 book by Bradford W. Wright , " Comic Book
Nation " , includes some mention of Charlton stuff -
specifically their war stories - And , some page
repros .
  No Action Heroes , though .

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Just joined up and wanted to say hello.
Finally found a Charlton site....saves me setting one up!
Terry







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Welcome, Terry.
 
There is a second yahoo charlton site also. Can someone post the link for Terry-?
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

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What kept you?


--- "Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf"
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> Terry
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> 



		
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Heh,heh. Indeed, Mr. Hooper. What kept you-? Now then: why don't you tell us all about yourself, since none of us know who you are-?
 

 
Regards,
 
Phil Latter
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--- "Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf"
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> one up!
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



            
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It is my intention to take over and control the comic world.
 
You HAVE been warned.
Terry

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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Regards,

Phil Latter
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Welcome aboard.  I stumbled onto this site about a month ago.  Good site.  There is an annex, also.  It should be listed in the Links section.  I've seen your name around in some of the other sites that I belong to.
John Packer

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In a message dated 2/24/2005 3:26:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
johnpacker2000@yahoo.com writes:
>Welcome aboard.  I stumbled onto this site about a month ago.  Good >site.  

there is also another Charlton list that is generally pretty active
here on yahoo as well 

steven r

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Hi.
just in case anyone is wondering they CAN find more out about me on the ABOUT page at:
 
http://blacktowercguk.4t.com
 
despite what Phil says I cannot write a long intro -who's gonna be interested??
 
Oh,cannot find another Charlton group nor one for ACG -anyone?
Terry

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Welcome aboard.  I stumbled onto this site about a month ago.  Good site.  There is an annex, also.  It should be listed in the Links section.  I've seen your name around in some of the other sites that I belong to.
John Packer

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Here's the address for the ACG group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACG-comics/

and the other Charlton list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l/

as well as the annex for the Bullseye group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/

Hope this helps!

David McL
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  From: Terry Hooper 
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  Hi.
  just in case anyone is wondering they CAN find more out about me on the ABOUT page at:
   
  http://blacktowercguk.4t.com
   
  despite what Phil says I cannot write a long intro -who's gonna be interested??
   
  Oh,cannot find another Charlton group nor one for ACG -anyone?
  Terry

  John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

  Welcome aboard.  I stumbled onto this site about a month ago.  Good site.  There is an annex, also.  It should be listed in the Links section.  I've seen your name around in some of the other sites that I belong to.
  John Packer

  "Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf" <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:


  Just joined up and wanted to say hello.
  Finally found a Charlton site....saves me setting one up!
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David McLallen <dmclallen@earthlink.net> wrote:Here's the address for the ACG group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACG-comics/

and the other Charlton list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l/

as well as the annex for the Bullseye group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/

Hope this helps!

David McL
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:09 PM
  Subject: [CharltonBullseye] About ME!




  Hi.
  just in case anyone is wondering they CAN find more out about me on the ABOUT page at:
   
  http://blacktowercguk.4t.com
   
  despite what Phil says I cannot write a long intro -who's gonna be interested??
   
  Oh,cannot find another Charlton group nor one for ACG -anyone?
  Terry

  John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

  Welcome aboard.  I stumbled onto this site about a month ago.  Good site.  There is an annex, also.  It should be listed in the Links section.  I've seen your name around in some of the other sites that I belong to.
  John Packer

  "Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf" <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:


  Just joined up and wanted to say hello.
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Hi Ya!
I was wondering;what has happened to Dr Graves,the Ghost,etc.? I 
know DC purchased the action line but what about those guys like,was 
it Prof.Midnight?

I know,silly question,probably. But please,take into account that 
I'm part English,part Welsh and part German so I'm not very clever!
Terry




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In a message dated 2/27/2005 3:34:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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>I was wondering;what has happened to Dr Graves,the >Ghost,etc.? I 
>know DC purchased the action line but what about those guys >like,was 
>it Prof.Midnight?

sold to Roger Broughton of ACG-Avalon.  Been awhile since Roger did anything 
with that stuff though

steven rowe

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What's the first Charlton comic? I'd been led to believe in the past
the Marvels of Science was the first series, but Overstreet seems to
suggest it's Zoo Funnies #101(#1) from Nov. 1945 with an Al Fago
cover. Is this the first Charlton comic?

I come to assembled experts for wisdom.

Dean





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 WHo owns the rights to Pete Cannon -Thunderbolt?

DC had them and the reverted to Pete Morisi. He has since died. Any 
ideas?







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It has always been my understanding that Zoo Funnies was the first 
charlton comic published. Thats what was in an older overstreet 
comics guide on the history of comics anyway.







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Hi.
It should revert to his estate if he has immediate family. I think if you contact Roy Thomas at ALTER EGO magazine he might be able to tell you if there is a wife or son/daughter to contact.
Terry

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WHo owns the rights to Pete Cannon -Thunderbolt?

DC had them and the reverted to Pete Morisi. He has since died. Any 
ideas?







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In a message dated 3/5/2005 5:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com writes:
>It should revert to his estate if he has immediate family

Didnt Pete Morisi have a son Steve who wrote some of his later comics?
  (or am i confusing two families?)
sr

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Hi Everybody,

In the early 1960's, on a Boy Scout paper drive, I
acquired three of the strangest comics ever published
by Charlton (CDC Capitol, in this case.)

Space Western Comics ran in 1952 and 1953 from issue
#40 thru #45. Issues up to 39 and after 45 were
apparently Cowboy Western Comics. Now in the files at
the Charlton Bullseye Annex group are the covers to
the last three issues. When file space allows I'll add
a story or three. (Link below.)

Best,

Bob Kennedy

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, sangorshop@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/5/2005 5:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> hoopercomicsuk@y... writes:
> >It should revert to his estate if he has immediate family
> 
> Didnt Pete Morisi have a son Steve who wrote some of his later 
comics?
>   (or am i confusing two families?)
> 

Yes, he does have a son.  In fact, his son has posted a few times to 
the DC on-line forum in the thread regarding the Charlton Action 
Heroes Archives (in the Archives section) a few times.

He's indicated there is an unpublished Thunderbolt story by PAM and 
seems to indicate his family owns the rights to the character.

Michael Brown







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In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:08:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
emb021@motorola.com writes:
>He's indicated there is an unpublished Thunderbolt story by >PAM and 
>seems to indicate his family owns the rights to the character.

Since i recall when Morisi got the rights from Charlton to Thunderbolt 
(Charlton sent out a press release), I dont doubt his indication.

steven rowe 

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Charlton Spotlight #4 looks outstanding! I'm so looking foward to it!

Below is a link to the Spotlight website, and if that fails it's in 
the Links section:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/


Enjoy! And order this magazine!

Dean




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Hi Dean,
 
I ordered it last week, mailed a U.S. $ money order to Argo Press, because I'd rather Mike get the money direct, than a percentage by buying it through Previews or through a store.
 
I previously ordered and read # 1,2,3 and they are awesome; I read them cover to cover-!
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

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Charlton Spotlight #4 looks outstanding! I'm so looking foward to it!

Below is a link to the Spotlight website, and if that fails it's in 
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http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/


Enjoy! And order this magazine!

Dean




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I hope I can pick it up somewhere. Though most of my comic shops think third party comics companies only began with Dark Horse. 
 
I liked Morisi style it was differetn than most other comics of the time. 

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

Charlton Spotlight #4 looks outstanding! I'm so looking foward to it!

Below is a link to the Spotlight website, and if that fails it's in 
the Links section:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/charltonspotlight/


Enjoy! And order this magazine!

Dean




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Well DC killed off another charlton character. THey killed killed 
Capt. Atom a few months ago (though I guess he could come back and 
now they've killed off one of my favorites, Blue Beetle.

I recall reading somewhere that some rights issue had prevented him 
from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so are killing them 
off?  Only one who's still really around is the Question and I would 
not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his comic.  







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I liked the characterizaion of the Blue Beetle in the first issue.  The writer came up with a plausible reason why Booster Gold and the Beetle acted as they did in earlier editions of the JLA, and the Blue Beetle, even as he was being ignored by the current JLA, was acting like a true hero--and then he gets offed.  Didn't like that at all.  Didn't like the way Batman ignored the Beetle, either.  Is this Batman a hero, or a jerk?
 
     Allen Smith

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Well DC killed off another charlton character. THey killed killed 
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now they've killed off one of my favorites, Blue Beetle.

I recall reading somewhere that some rights issue had prevented him 
from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is it possible that DC is 
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off?  Only one who's still really around is the Question and I would 
not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his comic.  








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<<recall reading somewhere that some  rights issue had prevented him 
from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is  it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so  are killing them 
off?  Only one who's still really around is the  Question and I would 
not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his  comic.  >>


isnt  a Son of Vulcan back?

the rights issue is that the  DC lawyers discoveredthat there is no paper 
trail tying the Charlton Blue Beetle  to the Fox Blue Beetle. If you're selling 
toys, you want that  trail.


steven rowe
 

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Steven,
 
Yes, a new Son of Vulcan mini series is offered from DC Comics in the latest issue of the huge phone-book sized PREVIEWS catalogue. I ordered this series. However, the characters human name is not Manning but an entirely new alias. Still, if these rumours of true, would they even dare doing this-? See, things like this are what lead me to believe the rumours are false. This said, I welcome evidence to the contrary.
 
The new  Question series I am really enjoying. I sure hope the character is not killed off.
 
Trail or no trail, DC has sold toys of: Blue Beetle (not once but twice, two different toys), Captain Atom (just released), The Question, The Question, and I am guessing there will be more in the future. 
 
Over the years, I myself made my own one of a kind action figures of all the "Charlton/-DC action heroes." I should scan them and post scans at some point. I did them before DC produced any.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter

sangorshop@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/2005 6:39:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
<<recall reading somewhere that some  rights issue had prevented him 
from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is  it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so  are killing them 
off?  Only one who's still really around is the  Question and I would 
not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his  comic.  >>


isnt  a Son of Vulcan back?

the rights issue is that the  DC lawyers discovered that there is no paper 
trail tying the Charlton Blue Beetle  to the Fox Blue Beetle. If you're selling 
toys, you want that trail.


steven rowe



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Allen,
 
Please see my questions and comments about this below, under the spoiler alert-! My comments are preceded by ********* , read all the way to the bottom. Thanks. --Phil

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I liked the characterizaion of the Blue Beetle in the first issue.  The writer came up with a plausible reason why Booster Gold and the Beetle acted as they did in earlier editions of the JLA, and the Blue Beetle, even as he was being ignored by the current JLA, was acting like a true hero--and then he gets offed.  Didn't like that at all.  Didn't like the way Batman ignored the Beetle, either.  Is this Batman a hero, or a jerk?

     Allen Smith

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Well DC killed off another charlton character. THey killed killed 
Capt. Atom a few months ago (though I guess he could come back and 
now they've killed off one of my favorites, Blue Beetle.

************Allan, what comic and issue # was Captain Atom killed off in-? I'd like to seek it out-! Thanks in advance-! I liked this character. I have all his original 1950's/-and or 1960's adventures in Space Adventures and Strange Suspense Stories as well as his own title. See below for more....


I recall reading somewhere that some rights issue had prevented him from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so are killing them off? 

**********Actually, I have seen Captain Atom in at least a couple of brand new JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED animation series. So, those reports are false, good news for Captain Atom fans. I have seen other characters on that new show who, in the comics, are dead, such as Hawk and Dove (the original 1960's Ditko versions, Hank and Don Hall, and in their original versions, and in their secret identities too, Bwana Beast, who likewise should be dead, the western Vigilante, etc,etc,etc. 

 Only one who's still really around is the Question and I would not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his comic.  

********Respectfully, I hope that is proven to be false, I love all these so-called Charlton Action Heroes that DC Comics purchased decades ago. Despite the fact that DC has abused them in numerous ways over the years (driven Peacemaker insane and then killing him---more than once, I might add)---I still have very warm feelings for these characters. Especially Judomaster and Tiger, my favourites, who DC has hardly used....at all.

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Sorry Phil, I don't read the JLA very often, I couldn't tell you when or if the good Captain might have been killed off.  Granted that the Charlton characters, in their first incarnations, didn't have fully developed characters, DC has not done a very good job with them, not too surprising because they likely were acquired to keep someone else from using them to compete with DC.  Although the Question comic by O'Neil was good, it was not the Question as created by Ditko.  I think Veitch's Question is a bit closer to Ditko's version.
 
     Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Allen,

Please see my questions and comments about this below, under the spoiler alert-! My comments are preceded by ********* , read all the way to the bottom. Thanks. --Phil

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I liked the characterizaion of the Blue Beetle in the first issue.  The writer came up with a plausible reason why Booster Gold and the Beetle acted as they did in earlier editions of the JLA, and the Blue Beetle, even as he was being ignored by the current JLA, was acting like a true hero--and then he gets offed.  Didn't like that at all.  Didn't like the way Batman ignored the Beetle, either.  Is this Batman a hero, or a jerk?

     Allen Smith

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Well DC killed off another charlton character. THey killed killed 
Capt. Atom a few months ago (though I guess he could come back and 
now they've killed off one of my favorites, Blue Beetle.

************Allan, what comic and issue # was Captain Atom killed off in-? I'd like to seek it out-! Thanks in advance-! I liked this character. I have all his original 1950's/-and or 1960's adventures in Space Adventures and Strange Suspense Stories as well as his own title. See below for more....


I recall reading somewhere that some rights issue had prevented him from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so are killing them off? 

**********Actually, I have seen Captain Atom in at least a couple of brand new JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED animation series. So, those reports are false, good news for Captain Atom fans. I have seen other characters on that new show who, in the comics, are dead, such as Hawk and Dove (the original 1960's Ditko versions, Hank and Don Hall, and in their original versions, and in their secret identities too, Bwana Beast, who likewise should be dead, the western Vigilante, etc,etc,etc. 

Only one who's still really around is the Question and I would not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his comic.  

********Respectfully, I hope that is proven to be false, I love all these so-called Charlton Action Heroes that DC Comics purchased decades ago. Despite the fact that DC has abused them in numerous ways over the years (driven Peacemaker insane and then killing him---more than once, I might add)---I still have very warm feelings for these characters. Especially Judomaster and Tiger, my favourites, who DC has hardly used....at all.

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Allen,
 
That's okay. Thanks for responding nonetheless. This said, does anyone else know in which comic Captain Atom was killed off-? 
 
Allen, it wouldn't surprise me if your theory of why DC Comics acquired those characters legally is correct. In my view, they haven't done a very good job of it, particularly in terms of The Peacemaker (what a mess), and Captain Atom. (My opinion.)
 
I have always regretted that they mostly ignored Judomaster and Tiger, my personal favourites, and didn't give the Blue Beetle title a better creative team. Then then made BB a fat oaf. Blue Beetle and Peacemaker are deceased (hey, it's blown) , Nightshade hasn't been treated right either. 
 
Like you, while it was different, I liked the DC Question various series a lot, and the new Question series I think is quite good. I'm enjoying it. A real sleeper, in my opinion, is Richard Dragon. I urge folks to pick up this title. I hope it lasts. I was a fan of the 1970's incarnation of this title, still have them, and the new version does not dissappoint. 
 
Like you, I rarely follow any JLA title, I am more a fan of the JSA and I buy anything with them in it, have for decades. Even the Archive editions.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry Phil, I don't read the JLA very often, I couldn't tell you when or if the good Captain might have been killed off.  Granted that the Charlton characters, in their first incarnations, didn't have fully developed characters, DC has not done a very good job with them, not too surprising because they likely were acquired to keep someone else from using them to compete with DC.  Although the Question comic by O'Neil was good, it was not the Question as created by Ditko.  I think Veitch's Question is a bit closer to Ditko's version.

     Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Allen,

Please see my questions and comments about this below, under the spoiler alert-! My comments are preceded by ********* , read all the way to the bottom. Thanks. --Phil

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I liked the characterizaion of the Blue Beetle in the first issue.  The writer came up with a plausible reason why Booster Gold and the Beetle acted as they did in earlier editions of the JLA, and the Blue Beetle, even as he was being ignored by the current JLA, was acting like a true hero--and then he gets offed.  Didn't like that at all.  Didn't like the way Batman ignored the Beetle, either.  Is this Batman a hero, or a jerk?

     Allen Smith

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:


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Well DC killed off another charlton character. THey killed killed 
Capt. Atom a few months ago (though I guess he could come back and 
now they've killed off one of my favorites, Blue Beetle.

************Allan, what comic and issue # was Captain Atom killed off in-? I'd like to seek it out-! Thanks in advance-! I liked this character. I have all his original 1950's/-and or 1960's adventures in Space Adventures and Strange Suspense Stories as well as his own title. See below for more....


I recall reading somewhere that some rights issue had prevented him from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so are killing them off? 

**********Actually, I have seen Captain Atom in at least a couple of brand new JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED animation series. So, those reports are false, good news for Captain Atom fans. I have seen other characters on that new show who, in the comics, are dead, such as Hawk and Dove (the original 1960's Ditko versions, Hank and Don Hall, and in their original versions, and in their secret identities too, Bwana Beast, who likewise should be dead, the western Vigilante, etc,etc,etc. 

Only one who's still really around is the Question and I would not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his comic.  

********Respectfully, I hope that is proven to be false, I love all these so-called Charlton Action Heroes that DC Comics purchased decades ago. Despite the fact that DC has abused them in numerous ways over the years (driven Peacemaker insane and then killing him---more than once, I might add)---I still have very warm feelings for these characters. Especially Judomaster and Tiger, my favourites, who DC has hardly used....at all.

Best,

Phil Latter

Halifax, Nova Scotia

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In a message dated 4/2/2005 10:35:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>That's okay. Thanks for responding nonetheless. This said, does anyone else 
>know in which comic Captain Atom was killed off-? 

googling show this is Batman/Superman #6

as for the JLA-Blue Beetle toy story, all i know is what i hear....
... the ways of lawyers is strange indeed


steven rowe

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Captain Atom supposedly died in Superman/Batman #6  (hmmm Batman is 
always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and  then 
reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.




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>  
> I have always regretted that they mostly ignored Judomaster and 
>Tiger, my personal favourites,... 



They did bring them back just long enough to make the horrible L.A.W. 
comics in which Tiger became an archvillian. And all the former 
Charlton chars banded together to stop him. Since then i've only seen 
the girl Judomaster in Kingdom come in about 5 panels.




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I don't think Ditko has an estate, he's still living.  I might be wrong, but it's only if you are dead that a person is spoken of as having an estate, unless of course one is referring to a house and grounds.
 
     Allen Smith

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:

Captain Atom supposedly died in Superman/Batman #6  (hmmm Batman is 
always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and  then 
reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.





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Allen,
 
The way that story read, I was under the impression that this story, wherein Captain Atom was killed, was kind of like an Elseworlds story, and that therefore, it wouldn't affect DC "real world" universe. And that thus, Captain Atom is still among the living. Now, of course, given that none of these characters are living and never did, given that it's all fiction.....this said, your thoughts-?
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Canada

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't think Ditko has an estate, he's still living.  I might be wrong, but it's only if you are dead that a person is spoken of as having an estate, unless of course one is referring to a house and grounds.

     Allen Smith

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:

Captain Atom supposedly died in Superman/Batman #6  (hmmm Batman is 
always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and  then 
reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.





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Hmm for some reason I had though he was dead. Glad to hear he's not.

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:I don't think Ditko has an estate, he's still living.  I might be wrong, but it's only if you are dead that a person is spoken of as having an estate, unless of course one is referring to a house and grounds.

     Allen Smith

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:

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always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
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reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.





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Well no matter if its elsworld or not, in my opinion Capt. couldn't be killed that way anyways. DC was always making him underpowered as to how he should be anyways.

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Okay,Guys.....
I've been off-planet for a while trying to prevent the Slug Men of Pluto from attacking Earth as they did in 1952. So I read these messages and learn Captain Atom was killed off?? Huh? When was this?! Help!
 
SON OF VULCAN is said to be a whole new character [like the Shining Knight who is NOT the shining Knight in my opinion],redesigned so DC COULD use him as there'd only be a similarity in name.....you can use Wolverine so long as he looks different because wolverine [or Gulo gulo] isn't copyrightable because its an animal [that should stir things up].
 
Someone has said that the Question DOES meet his end and if this happened we'd know!
 
Charlton and paper trails....anyone read that COMIC BOOK ARTIST Charlton 2 parter?
 
Blue Beetle was my favourite character but what happened to Peacemaker?
Terry

sangorshop@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/2005 6:39:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
<<recall reading somewhere that some  rights issue had prevented him 
from being in the Justice League Cartoon. Is  it possible that DC is 
losing the rights to the charlton characters and so  are killing them 
off?  Only one who's still really around is the  Question and I would 
not be at all surprised if he dies at the end of his  comic.  >>


isnt  a Son of Vulcan back?

the rights issue is that the  DC lawyers discoveredthat there is no paper 
trail tying the Charlton Blue Beetle  to the Fox Blue Beetle. If you're selling 
toys, you want that  trail.


steven rowe



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Since I get these messages in digest form, I'm responding to several messag=
es=20
at once.   I've cut away quite bit, but this could be a little hard to=20
follow, but bear with me...

I tend to lurk around here, so if you'll indulge me, I'll play through and =
be=20
on my way...

In a message dated 4/2/05 1:30:01 PM, CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=20
writes:

> Message: 2=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0
> =A0=A0 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:44:38 -0800 (PST)
> =A0=A0 From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: DC crisis events (spoilers)
>=20
> I liked the characterizaion of the Blue Beetle in the first issue.=A0 The=
=20
> writer came up with a plausible reason why Booster Gold and the Beetle ac=
ted as=20
> they did in earlier editions of the JLA, and the Blue Beetle, even as he =
was=20
> being ignored by the current JLA, was acting like a true hero--and then h=
e=20
> gets offed.=A0 Didn't like that at all.=A0 Didn't like the way Batman ign=
ored the=20
> Beetle, either.=A0 Is this Batman a hero, or a jerk?
>=20
> =A0 =A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
Well, Batman (and the rest of the DC heroes involved outside of Booster Gol=
d)=20
sort of had to ignore the Beetle to make the story work.   If anyone follow=
ed=20
the comedy stylings of the Justice League/JLI series and the current reviva=
ls=20
of the concept, part of the series hook was Beetle and Booster getting into=
=20
and out of wacky situations which almost always had nothing to do with=20
superheroics but more with "I Love Lucy" in spandex.   I don't knock that v=
ersion of=20
Ted Kord, it was actually pretty fun to see heroes who didn't take themselv=
es=20
seriously for a while and one would hope as we moved away from those days t=
hat=20
only the hero stuff would remain in place and the hijinks would be=20
conveniently forgotten as it usually goes in comics.   Unfortunately, the w=
hole comedy=20
tag stuck with Booster and Beetle and made both of them pretty unworkable=20
outside of humor roles...

When Ted showed up in Birds of Prey as a sort of technical consultant I was=
=20
pretty glad to see DC starting to take him seriously, and hoped he was on h=
is=20
way back into at least second string level where he'd probably wind up a so=
rt=20
of male counterpart to Barbara Gordon's Oracle but along came Giffen and=20
company to undo all of that with a revival of the funny JL stuff...

So for Ted Kord to be taken seriously you'd have to ignore his history with=
=20
the DCU to this point and that would not have worked for Ted to shine as a=
=20
desperate man who risked it all when he could have given in and betrayed hi=
s=20
colleagues.   He had cause to join this anti-meta cause and it would've wor=
ked that=20
way to, but for the Blue Beetle to be truly more heroic than his current=20
audience believes him to be he really didn't have another path available...

Now if you haven't read countdown, the following segment has spoilers ahead=
,=20
read at your own risk...

Here endth the disclaimer without wasting a ton of space separating the=20
spoiler from the rest of the messages...

Clever, no?

My only gripe with this story was why was it necessary to destroy Kord's=20
company in the first place?   I mean he wasn't a threat to anyone, a practi=
cal=20
non-entity in the superhero community, and even if the warehouse with the=20
Kryptonite was hit and alerted the heroes that it was missing, the odds Ted=
's=20
involvement in the case would lead anywhere seemed slim at best and the big=
 guns are=20
still aware it's missing to boot.

I mean, Booster could've filled this role just as easily...

In fact a man from the future with knowledge of the past would seem to be a=
=20
much more dangerous individual to have running around considering what he m=
ight=20
already know about the events unfolding around him...

I agree Ted's swansong was heartrending because you know he's in over his=20
head, but in the end it seems so contrived that it takes away from the impa=
ct and=20
makes it a cheap gimmick to sell the book...

Sure he'll be remembered as a hero after the fact but from a basic premise=
=20
standpoint, the events leading to Ted's death are weak from the onset given=
 how=20
much of a red flag this would raise for Ted in the first place...

But it was good enough to bring me into the story, I just assume the ending=
=20
of Ted's company somehow furthered the agenda of the story because of some=
=20
potential threat, but I'm hard pressed to see what it was since a stable co=
mpany=20
would've kept Ted occupied enough not to interfere...

Here endth the spoiler...

>=20
> Message: 10=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> =A0=A0 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:43:32 -0000
> =A0=A0 From: "K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: DC crisis events (spoilers)
>=20
> >=A0
> > I have always regretted that they mostly ignored Judomaster and
> >Tiger, my personal favourites,...
>=20
> They did bring them back just long enough to make the horrible L.A.W.
> comics in which Tiger became an archvillian. And all the former
> Charlton chars banded together to stop him. Since then i've only seen
> the girl Judomaster in Kingdom come in about 5 panels.
>=20
Judomaster was also meant to show up in the All-Star Squadron at one point=
=20
according to Roy Thomas.   With such a huge membership though he never made=
 it=20
to a point where Judomaster and Tiger could be added into the mix before th=
e=20
series was canceled.

I have no idea how DC reworked them outside of Thomas setting them in the=20
Pacific Theatre during WWII, but I'm sorry they never really took off eithe=
r...

>=20
>=20
> Message: 11=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> =A0=A0 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:04:22 -0800 (PST)
> =A0=A0 From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: DC crisis events (spoilers)
>=20
> I don't think Ditko has an estate, he's still living.=A0 I might be wrong=
, but=20
> it's only if you are dead that a person is spoken of as having an estate,=
=20
> unless of course one is referring to a house and grounds.
>=20
> =A0 =A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> "K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their
> charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new
> characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
> esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp)
> around the time when he dies.
> http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3D&threadid=3D22032
>=20
> It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much=A0
> admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and=A0 then
> reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two
> characters.
>=20
> I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.
>=20
Well given that Hal's villainy and eventual death were protested actively=20
from day one which eventually reflected in the sales of GL during Kyle's tu=
rn as=20
GL, it was somewhat inevitable that Hal would be back in the saddle at some=
=20
point.   Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and most of the notable Charlton heroes =
never=20
really reached that level in their DC appearances.   There's never really=20
been a strong fanbase screaming for Blue Beetle's return to something other=
 than=20
comedy sidekick roles, whereas Donna Troy (the original Wonder Girl, later=
=20
renamed Troia) will be back this summer in a miniseries meant to reintroduc=
e her=20
back into the DCu after she died on camera in the Graduation Day miniseries=
.=20=20=20
Captain Atom's liked well enough but he still can't hold a candle to the=20
likes of Superman or Wonder Woman when you come down to it.   He's probably=
 got=20
better potential outside of the Question who is probably the most popular=20
Charlton hero DC has in the lineup, but at the end of the day, Cap's not qu=
ite=20
there...

Granted Breach, the Captain Atom knockoff DC's running at the moment, shoul=
d=20
have been Cap's series, but it's really something that Cap's done before in=
=20
the way it was set up and he'd have been better served with a series that t=
ook=20
his DCU continuity, cleaned it up a bit and redefined   him as a major play=
er=20
in the DC Universe.   I figure Breach will shine or be filed away with all =
the=20
other New Blood types DC's set up and never used again...

He's in good company, Captain Marvel tends to rotate in and out of the comi=
cs=20
world in the same manner, but is also given far more shots than Captain Ato=
m=20
at regular series.

Let's not get me started on my beloved long lost and lamented T.H.U.N.D.E.R=
.=20
Agents and their checkered publication attempts over the last few decades..=
.

The thing with the Charlton characters is that they are liked by fans of th=
e=20
old Action Heroes stuff while the modern audience gets a taste of the=20
potential these guys have in cartoon shows sharing the screen with big guns=
 like=20
Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman...

Faced with that kind of marginalization, it's amazing they've managed to ge=
t=20
any time in at all much less what little time they've had as active members=
 of=20
the DCU...

You know if the Crisis turned out differently, these guys might have done=20
better as characters in a universe all their own...

>=20
> Message: 12=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> =A0=A0 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:12:52 -0500 (EST)
> =A0=A0 From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Re: DC crisis events (spoilers)
>=20
> Allen,
>=20
> The way that story read, I was under the impression that this story, wher=
ein=20
> Captain Atom was killed, was kind of like an Elseworlds story, and that=20
> therefore, it wouldn't affect DC "real world" universe. And that thus, Ca=
ptain=20
> Atom is still among the living. Now, of course, given that none of these=
=20
> characters are living and never did, given that it's all fiction.....this=
 said,=20
> your thoughts-?
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> Phil Latter
> Canada
>=20
No Phil, Captain Atom's "death" was in the current DCU continuity (such as =
it=20
is) and happened on panel where he sacrificed himself so Superman wouldn't=
=20
have to fly into some hazardous area of space on an obvious suicide mission=
.=20=20=20
Given that the finale for Cap involved a rather large explosion, one would=
=20
assume he was quantum bumped forward in the timeline and will eventually=20
resurface.   Or maybe he's really dead this time, all things being relative=
 in comics.

Breach, which was initially a Captain Atom revamp/reboot became an original=
=20
character concept by a long running Marvel mainstay who claimed to know not=
hing=20
about the character Captain Atom outside of his name and general origin.  =
=20
Those of us who actually read Breach write off the oddly similar origin set=
 up=20
to DC's attempt at a Captain Atom series as coincidental I guess.   In fact=
 the=20
only differences between the two levels of radiation emitted (Breach is=20
unable to touch living tissue without causing severe cellular damage while =
Cap is=20
in control of any radiation levels he emits) and the fact that Cap's powers=
 are=20
affected by things like explosive kinetic energy (i.e., quantum jumps throu=
gh=20
time) while Breach seems pretty much seems to be unaffected by outside forc=
es=20
unrelated to the extradimensional event that gave him his powers.   In the=
=20
end, Breach is just a "Marvelized" Captain Atom with the proper angst facto=
r and=20
confusing motivations of why our hero is a hero...

So that's my two cents plus on your various comments and observations=20
hopefully I wasn't too long winded...

Later!

Ali


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Hi.
In the current [#13-----] BATMAN & SUPERMAN they are messing around with time lines,etc.. I thought this title was in the actual DCU?  Who the heck knows!!
 
Ditko,I believe,is still very much alive. A "estate" is if you are deceased while an "executor of the estate" can be appointed if you go gah-gah. I understand Ditko is NOT gah-gah.
 
Please see my longer posting on DC killing off Charlton characters.
Terry

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Allen,

The way that story read, I was under the impression that this story, wherein Captain Atom was killed, was kind of like an Elseworlds story, and that therefore, it wouldn't affect DC "real world" universe. And that thus, Captain Atom is still among the living. Now, of course, given that none of these characters are living and never did, given that it's all fiction.....this said, your thoughts-?

Best,

Phil Latter
Canada

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't think Ditko has an estate, he's still living.  I might be wrong, but it's only if you are dead that a person is spoken of as having an estate, unless of course one is referring to a house and grounds.

     Allen Smith

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:

Captain Atom supposedly died in Superman/Batman #6  (hmmm Batman is 
always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and  then 
reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.





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Hey,KJ!
When I saw THE BREACH,purchased it and read it my first thought was "Are they re-creating Captain Atom -he's still alive.........isn't he?"
 
As I recall,someone at DC purchased those characters as a gift for Dick Giordano [I'm desperately trying to find Comic Book Artist #9 -and #12?]. Thats a well treaded story and we know that Moore and Gibbons had to create facsimiles of these for WATCHMEN.
 
Now,Charlton is notorious for lack of paper work,a few "dodgey" dealings and more as related in the CBA issues. Its possible that DC purchased rights but with renewed creator interest now that its obvious millions can be made,it may be DC have decided to cut and run....anything such as old BB figures would not,obviously,be affected.
 
Peacemaker is dead -I missed that one as well!. CAP ATOM is dead. BB is dead. I've been re-reading the Question comic [which I like more than the original DC series way back] and I may be imagining it but I THINK he's heading for a heroes death. I may/could be wrong but it all looks like these old Charlton characters ARE being killed off.
 
Remember,DC,via AOL,has purchased,sneakily [and I will NOT refer to my involvement in the affair] the old British IPC characters being revived by the Moores,etc. [I AM looking forward to Shane Oakley's art,though!].  
 
The problem is that this could all just be DC screwing up while trying to be re-inventive again. I think they realise the old DC characters were much better loved [see AQUAMAN return as the original look guy! Hal Jordan returning as GL......and so on]. Could this be because DC,and most other companies readers,are in their mid to late 30s and above and so might be pandered to and,hopefully,encouraged to get their kids to read these "old guys"?
 
If you look at all this there DOES seem to be some sort of plan going.....when we learn about it,though....
Terry

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:

Captain Atom supposedly died in Superman/Batman #6  (hmmm Batman is 
always involved). 

I know that DC Direct sold toys of BB in the past but I'd noticed 
that on the Justice League Unlimited show Blue Beetle is mysteriously 
absent. I tried to find out why online and gott responses from 
Ditko's estate gets paid extra and they don't want to pay to someone 
else has the rights to a TV version of him.

Bruce Timm has said that this toon takes place outside the comics so 
those who are dead in the comics aren't in the toon.

My question was just why is DC seeminly killing off all their 
charlton characters. They seem to be leaving room for all new 
characters (Original Beetles beetle is seen again) A new captain Atom-
esque character shows up (Originally an attempt at a Atom revamp) 
around the time when he dies. 
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22032

It just seems very strange that DC who had to go through so much  
admit they were screwed up killing Hal Jordan Green Lantern and  then 
reviving him would then reapeat the same thing and kill off two 
characters.

I'm glad DC still doesn't have the rights to Thunderbolt.





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There is a new Captain Atom action figure due out in August, so I think 
that he will still be around.

As for Blue Beetle, I think that we will see a reboot or whatever, with 
a new Blue Beetle, which will be more like the Dan Garret character and 
have the old super powers.

As for Ted Kord, I liked most of his appearances, even when he was 
overweight.  This character seemed more human than many.  Sad to see 
his company fail but the money had to come from somewhere.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing the Venus Man pop up somewhere! Heck, 
bring back the westerns!








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There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his place. 
Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
Ditko original design.

I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
identical names.

If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 

So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at the 
very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's only 
to end up dead or transformed.  




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Wish I had loads of money.  I'd like to get the ex-Charlton characters and take them back to their original looks, etc.  If the creators owned the copyrights that would be better, because I'd make a deal to "use the characters with permission".  I would love to see the Sentinels of Justice return, though by now they'd probably have to have a new name.  I once submitted some Judomaster synopses to Charlton with his son taking over the role.  They liked the ideas and told me if I had someone to draw the stories they would print them, because they no longer had a stable of artists.  Well, I couldn't connect with anyone, and soon thereafter they folded.  With the exception of the "original" DC Blue Beetle series, which I thought was pretty good, I haven't been happy with what DC has done with the characters.
John Packer 

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his place. 
Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
Ditko original design.

I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
identical names.

If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 

So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at the 
very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's only 
to end up dead or transformed.  





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There certainly is a great deal of confusion! I've put up 5 pages from CBA #12 dealing with who owns what now in the Photo section of my ACG & Others group.
 
Anyone owning a copy of Comic Book Collector 12 will see from intro to end there is a great deal of vagueness on copyright. There was a rather "shadey" side to the company and there were probably a number of "back door-not-quite-legal" deals. About six years ago I was in contact with people who had worked in the offices at Charlton and I asked about who owned what. The usual response was "Oh no! You're not getting me involved in that!!"  It seemed most thought the DC deal was "odd" BUT said that was the bosses and DCs business.
 
Now where are those people who dig up all the gossip when you want them??!
Terry

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his place. 
Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
Ditko original design.

I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
identical names.

If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 

So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at the 
very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's only 
to end up dead or transformed.  





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How about a link to your group? It sounds interesting.
Will

Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
There certainly is a great deal of confusion! I've put up 5 pages from CBA #12 dealing with who owns what now in the Photo section of my ACG & Others group.

Anyone owning a copy of Comic Book Collector 12 will see from intro to end there is a great deal of vagueness on copyright. There was a rather "shadey" side to the company and there were probably a number of "back door-not-quite-legal" deals. About six years ago I was in contact with people who had worked in the offices at Charlton and I asked about who owned what. The usual response was "Oh no! You're not getting me involved in that!!"  It seemed most thought the DC deal was "odd" BUT said that was the bosses and DCs business.

Now where are those people who dig up all the gossip when you want them??!
Terry

Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his place. 
Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
Ditko original design.

I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
identical names.

If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 

So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at the 
very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's only 
to end up dead or transformed.  





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Terry,
Can you give us a link to your ACG & Others group?  I'm on two or three ACG Yahoo Groups and one of them might be it, but it wouldn't hurt, for others to join up too.

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Paul,
The link is:
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acgandothers
 
Photos still has the pages which are a bit blurry but readable. I've no idea why text comes out so badly on these Yahoo groups!
 
Terry

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This link doesn't seem to be working.

Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:Paul,
The link is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acgandothers

Photos still has the pages which are a bit blurry but readable. I've no idea why text comes out so badly on these Yahoo groups!

Terry

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Terry Hooper 
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> Paul,
> The link is:
>  
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acgandothers
>  

Sorry, wrong name.  Its 'acgcomics', not acgandothers.

Also, if you search for 'acg comics' you'll find a group devoted to 
the 'new' acg/charlton reprints by Roger Broughton (sp?).

Michael Brown







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A couple of years ago I was in contact with the family of the owners 
of charlton with that exact idea, I figured that anything that hadnt 
been purchased might still be available which would lead to an 
inroads publishing under the charlton name. Basically what I found 
out was that any character that had not been sold off-and most 
everything they could sell was even the westerns, what was left the 
rights were turned back over to the creators. However an exact 
listing of who aquired what and what was transferred back to the 
creators they would not provide me. On a sad note I also found out 
that when they destroyed the derby plant alot of original material 
and the "charlton comics vault" went with it. 


> Wish I had loads of money.  I'd like to get the ex-Charlton 
characters and take them back to their original looks, etc.  If the 
creators owned the copyrights that would be better, because I'd make 
a deal to "use the characters with permission".  I would love to see 
the Sentinels of Justice return, though by now they'd probably have 
to have a new name.  I once submitted some Judomaster synopses to 
Charlton with his son taking over the role.  They liked the ideas and 
told me if I had someone to draw the stories they would print them, 
because they no longer had a stable of artists.  Well, I couldn't 
connect with anyone, and soon thereafter they folded.  With the 
exception of the "original" DC Blue Beetle series, which I thought 
was pretty good, I haven't been happy with what DC has done with the 
characters.
> John Packer 
> 
> Dean <ripjagger@y...> wrote:
> 
> There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
> relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
> cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
> version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
> looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his 
place. 
> Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
> is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
> Ditko original design.
> 
> I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
> over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
> that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
> been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
> Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
> is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
> think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
> favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
> identical names.
> 
> If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
> DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
> created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 
> 
> So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at 
the 
> very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's 
only 
> to end up dead or transformed.  
> 
> 
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Wow.  That's something.  No chance of much even being reprinted now.  Too bad.
John Packer

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A couple of years ago I was in contact with the family of the owners 
of charlton with that exact idea, I figured that anything that hadnt 
been purchased might still be available which would lead to an 
inroads publishing under the charlton name. Basically what I found 
out was that any character that had not been sold off-and most 
everything they could sell was even the westerns, what was left the 
rights were turned back over to the creators. However an exact 
listing of who aquired what and what was transferred back to the 
creators they would not provide me. On a sad note I also found out 
that when they destroyed the derby plant alot of original material 
and the "charlton comics vault" went with it. 


> Wish I had loads of money.  I'd like to get the ex-Charlton 
characters and take them back to their original looks, etc.  If the 
creators owned the copyrights that would be better, because I'd make 
a deal to "use the characters with permission".  I would love to see 
the Sentinels of Justice return, though by now they'd probably have 
to have a new name.  I once submitted some Judomaster synopses to 
Charlton with his son taking over the role.  They liked the ideas and 
told me if I had someone to draw the stories they would print them, 
because they no longer had a stable of artists.  Well, I couldn't 
connect with anyone, and soon thereafter they folded.  With the 
exception of the "original" DC Blue Beetle series, which I thought 
was pretty good, I haven't been happy with what DC has done with the 
characters.
> John Packer 
> 
> Dean <ripjagger@y...> wrote:
> 
> There seems to be a lot of contradictions running around DC in 
> relation to the Charlton heroes. Blue Beetle isn't in the JLU 
> cartoon, but does show up, in fact is featured in the comic book 
> version. Blue Beetle is presumably killed in the Countdown, but it 
> looks to me like DC is gearing for another Beetle to take his 
place. 
> Note that even in the current series in JLA:Classified that Beetle 
> is wearing a darker version of his costume, which only echoes the 
> Ditko original design.
> 
> I didn't realize  Captain Atom had been "killed", but he's gotten 
> over that kind of thing before, so I don't know how to interpret 
> that. Judomaster was just brought back a few years ago, but hasn't 
> been seen much. The Question has a mini-series currently running. 
> Son of Vulcan (no relation to the Charlton version save nominally) 
> is about to star in another limited. So we're getting indications I 
> think that the original Charlton heroes are being phased out in 
> favor of newer versions of the characters with similar if not 
> identical names.
> 
> If there is some problem with the ownership of Blue Beetle and what 
> DC owns, I can't imagine it's the look of Beetle since that was 
> created at Charlton. It can only be the name. 
> 
> So I don't really know what to conclude. It's intriguing, but at 
the 
> very least the Charlton heroes are getting some play, even it's 
only 
> to end up dead or transformed.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> The link is:
>  
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/acgandothers
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Sorry, wrong name.  Its 'acgcomics', not acgandothers.

Also, if you search for 'acg comics' you'll find a group devoted to 
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Yes, I read ---I "think" it was in Comic Book Artist magazine # 12 that, when they bulldozed the Charlton plant down, they FIRST walled a ton of both Charlton comics as well as a truck load of original art into a room, underground, and then just paved over the ground above into a parking lot. 
 
But that might just be my memory playing tricks on me. They may have just buried it all. What a damn shame.
 
 
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that when they destroyed the derby plant alot of original material and the "charlton comics vault" went with it. 

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Hey, maybe there's a fan fic story their.  The evil Comic Book Man attacks the mall to retrieve the burried magazines because....  Nah, it'd never work.
John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Yes, I read ---I "think" it was in Comic Book Artist magazine # 12 that, when they bulldozed the Charlton plant down, they FIRST walled a ton of both Charlton comics as well as a truck load of original art into a room, underground, and then just paved over the ground above into a parking lot. 

But that might just be my memory playing tricks on me. They may have just buried it all. What a damn shame.


Phil Latter



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John,
You are quite right. Supposedly boxes of comics and magazines and,if other reports are accurate,original artwork.
 
I say we get us some construction worker outfits [thats MANLY ones not gay ones] and go investigate a possible underground 'gas leak'!
 
Anyone got a jack hammer?
Terrry

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey, maybe there's a fan fic story their.  The evil Comic Book Man attacks the mall to retrieve the burried magazines because....  Nah, it'd never work.
John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Yes, I read ---I "think" it was in Comic Book Artist magazine # 12 that, when they bulldozed the Charlton plant down, they FIRST walled a ton of both Charlton comics as well as a truck load of original art into a room, underground, and then just paved over the ground above into a parking lot. 

But that might just be my memory playing tricks on me. They may have just buried it all. What a damn shame.


Phil Latter



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There is a story about the bulldozing of the building and some of 
what was left in the plant in the derby paper archives. I was 
speaking with a granddaughter of the owner and after she had told me 
that had happened and that a story had been run about it I looked it 
up. 


In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Terry Hooper 
<hoopercomicsuk@y...> wrote:
> John,
> You are quite right. Supposedly boxes of comics and magazines 
and,if other reports are accurate,original artwork.
>  
> I say we get us some construction worker outfits [thats MANLY ones 
not gay ones] and go investigate a possible underground 'gas leak'!
>  
> Anyone got a jack hammer?
> Terrry
> 
> John Packer <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Hey, maybe there's a fan fic story their.  The evil Comic Book Man 
attacks the mall to retrieve the burried magazines because....  Nah, 
it'd never work.
> John Packer
> 
> Phil Latter <chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> Yes, I read ---I "think" it was in Comic Book Artist magazine # 12 
that, when they bulldozed the Charlton plant down, they FIRST walled 
a ton of both Charlton comics as well as a truck load of original art 
into a room, underground, and then just paved over the ground above 
into a parking lot. 
> 
> But that might just be my memory playing tricks on me. They may 
have just buried it all. What a damn shame.
> 
> 
> Phil Latter
> 
> 
> 
> SNIP
> 
> 
> On a sad note I also found out 
> that when they destroyed the derby plant alot of original material 
and the "charlton comics vault" went with it. 
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Here's a link that might answer some questions about the ultimate fate 
of the factory that was Charlton:

http://www.chs.org/comics/charlton.htm

Scan down and read this very interesting timeline and it tells what 
happened to the building.

Dean




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I recently did a web search on Charlton Comics, and came across a page dated 8/2002 stating that Roger Broughton was going to merge his companies ACG Comics, Avignon Files, and SIS Graphics into "Charlton Media Group".

I then tried to do a web search on "Charlton Media Group" and found them.  Sort of.  Charlton Media Group (www.charltonmedia.com) is a company in Singapore that publishes business magazines in Asia/Middle East like Asian/Middle East Communications, Asian Mobile News, MSDN magazine in those markets and the like.  As far as I can tell, they have no connection with Broughton.

So, no website in site for Broughton or his stuff.

Michael Brown

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Hi.
Yes,the Singapore company has been going quite a few years and I did,circa 2000,ask if they had any connection with Charlton comics [someone told me they had!] and I was politely told "no".
 
Been doing a search under various names,mixes,etc.,but found nothing about Broughton or his comics.
 
When did he LAST publish?
Terry

Brown Michael-EMB021 <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
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I recently did a web search on Charlton Comics, and came across a page dated 8/2002 stating that Roger Broughton was going to merge his companies ACG Comics, Avignon Files, and SIS Graphics into "Charlton Media Group".

I then tried to do a web search on "Charlton Media Group" and found them.  Sort of.  Charlton Media Group (www.charltonmedia.com) is a company in Singapore that publishes business magazines in Asia/Middle East like Asian/Middle East Communications, Asian Mobile News, MSDN magazine in those markets and the like.  As far as I can tell, they have no connection with Broughton.

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...Unused art from Americomics Special featuring the action heroes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
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--Eric



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               MUST SELL


Large comic book collection (approx. 3000 books) from mid 70's to early 
90's. Last valued in 1997, using Overstreet Guide, at $6457.00 my price 
is much lower than that because I am trying to get the money for back 
taxes to save my house, My price is only $2500.00. Please reply to this 
message only if interested. Since the quantity of books is such that 
shipping costs would be extremely high you must be able to pick up the 
books.  I am located in Warminster, Pa (thats in Bucks County) and this 
is a CASH and Carry offer.  Thanks for taking the time to read this 
message and I hope it's ok to post this message.





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From: "sufferingsappho" <willjjones@willmorgan.wanadoo.co.uk>
Subject: Alan Class file copies now on sale.
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Evening, Gents;
Given that there's some interest in the black & white Alan Class 
series of 
reprints from the UK, many of which reprint hard-to-find stories 
from 
Charlton, Atlas and other publishers, I hope no-one will object to 
this 
announcement; at 30th Century Comics in London - 
http://www.thirtiethcentury.free-online.co.uk , e-mail 
sales@30thcenturycomics.co.uk -we're very pleased to be the 
exclusive 
vendors for Alan Class' own file copies of his publications, the 
first batch 
of which are now on sale, with many more to come over the summer. I 
reproduce, for possible interested parties, the announcement from 
the 
website...
Announcing... THE ALAN CLASS PRIVATE COLLECTION!
In conjunction with Mr. Alan Class himself, we will, over the coming 
months, 
be selling his Private Collection of Alan Class Comics published 
between the 
early 1960s and late 1980s.

These file copies will be presented with a certificate of 
authenticity, each 
signed by Alan Class personally, and will be offered for sale in 
batches 
throughout the coming summer. Whilst not every issue published is 
included 
in the collection, most are, and in many cases there are multiple 
copies 
available. These are uncirculated, unread copies and although some 
have 
suffered from decades in storage, many are as good as new!

As well as the comics themselves, we will be selling associated 
esoterica 
such as printer's stat copies, correspondence etc, usually in a set 
with a 
copy of the related comic. In addition, we also have the four- 
colour cover 
printing plates to go with many of the comics, providing a unique 
set of 
comics' memorabilia.

These historic items will be offered exclusively by 30th Century 
Comics. 
Some items/sets may be auctioned by us, but the vast majority will 
be 
offered for sale through our shop and website in the normal way.

If you're an Alan Class collector, you won't want to miss out on 
this once 
in a lifetime opportunity to acquire unique pieces of comics history.

We are of course indebted to Mr. Alan Class, a true gentleman of our 
industry, for his co-operation and for choosing 30th Century to 
market his 
collection for him. We hope later in the year that Alan will be 
present at 
our shop for a signing session. If this is possible, full details 
will be 
posted.

The first selection from this publisher's file copies are now on 
sale.  We 
begin our exploration of this extraordinary treasure trove with a 
series of 
short-run and one-off titles covering a range of genres: Tales Of 
The 
Underworld (Crime), Blazing Trails (Western). My Secret Confessions 
and 
Uncensored Love (Romance), Super Mouse & Just Dennis (Humour), Tales 
Of 
Action (War) and of course the sci-fi and fantasy titles Amazing 
Stories, 
Eerie Tales, Race Into Space and Space Trip To The Moon. Of lower 
print runs 
than the longer-established Class titles, these 'short series' are 
particularly hard to find, especially in the high grades of many of 
these 
copies.

Keep watching the website for further updates.

At 30th Century, we've always prided ourselves on being a leading 
authority 
on Alan Class publications. Now, with the man himself 'on our team', 
we can 
truthfully say that we are the 'Home of Alan Class Comics'.






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Hullo.
Over the last week I have found Files,Photo Albums and even messages 
vanishing from my groups. I had assumed that this was a Yahoo problem 
until today.

A few months ago I left this group after a difference of opinion with 
another member.  The main reason I felt so offended was a footnote to 
messages sent me reading "F*** you!".

I have just started receiving these "foot notes" again. Safeguards 
have now been taken but it seems my problems haver been caused by a 
hacker. Can I just say that if ANYONE gets a message like that to 
double check before getting annoyed at the sender!

Not sure how its being done but it explains why simple messages had 
these offensive attachments!
Terry



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There seems to be a lot of this about at the moment, something very similar happend over at a Doctor Who list to which I  also belong but amazingly enough Yahoo were very helpfull in getting to the bottom of it so this may be your best bet.
 
-Phabox

"Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf" <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hullo.
Over the last week I have found Files,Photo Albums and even messages 
vanishing from my groups. I had assumed that this was a Yahoo problem 
until today.

A few months ago I left this group after a difference of opinion with 
another member.  The main reason I felt so offended was a footnote to 
messages sent me reading "F*** you!".

I have just started receiving these "foot notes" again. Safeguards 
have now been taken but it seems my problems haver been caused by a 
hacker. Can I just say that if ANYONE gets a message like that to 
double check before getting annoyed at the sender!

Not sure how its being done but it explains why simple messages had 
these offensive attachments!
Terry




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Thanks for the heads-up, Terry.  God I hate shit like
this.

Jim~>


 it seems my problems haver
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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT - PAM TRIBUTE ISSUE!
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I've raved about this fanzine before, but I just got the latest issue 
and it's full of great stuff on Peter Morisi (PAM). There are several 
articles, a cover gallery, a checklist, a reprinted ghost story, and 
vintage pages some with some new unpublished Thunderbolt stuff done 
for DC. There's a great article on Kid Montana by Steve Skeates (who 
scripted the revival of the character in the 60's after T-Bolt 
folded), and some wonderful letters from Morisi himself about his 
interractions with DC when he was trying to get work there for his old 
friend Dick Giordano. PAM was an original, and this magazine really 
successfully celebrates his work. 

I'm a subscriber, so I don't know if these premiums are available for 
one and all, but I also got with my magazine a mini-poster of Johnny 
Danger by PAM used as the back cover, and a mini-comic B&W reprint of 
a PAM western story. Great stuff!

Give Mike Ambrose an e-mail and get a copy of this outstanding fanzine!

Check out the links section.



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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Konga's Revenge!
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I didn't know he was mad!  

No, really, I just got around to reading a back issue I scarfed up a 
few weeks ago. It was the 1968 Charlton reprint of an old Konga 
story, and let me tell you guys it's a hoot and a half! The cover is 
by Dick Giordano, but I'm not sure about the interiors. It's 
probably Bill Montes; the GCD says Montes on pencils and Rocke 
Masterioso on inks , so I won't dispute that. The script is almost 
certainly another Joe Gill wonder.  

Here's the "plot":

A few teenagers are taking in a drive-in starring a lovely femme 
fatale, when they notice that a giant ape is behind them also 
watching the film. As they scurry away in terror, Konga is 
mesmerized by the lovely lady on the screen (I guess her size had 
something to do with it), and decides to go look her up. After 
walking across the top of the world and down through Siberia into 
Turkey, he ends up at the location shoot of a sandal-film epic 
starring the lovely lady as Helen, the Face that Launched a Thousand 
Ships and at least one Giant Ape. There is much obligatory tension 
and pointless jealousy on the movie set, but after it's all said and 
done, they decide that blending in the shots of Konga into the story 
of Troy will make for good cinema and they proceed. The actress is 
able to keep Konga somewhat tame, but periodically he erupts in a 
fit of destruction. Eventually the film ends, the lovers get 
together, the "villain" disappears between panels never to be seen 
again, and Konga stomps off into the sunset. 

What's not to like about that?  

There is a big goofy fun to this comic, a fresh sense of the 
unexpected as the pages turn. For the record this comic also 
includes a short tale will Bill Molno artwork about a guy who finds 
a ghost on the top of the Alps. There's also a two-page text story 
about Martians invading the Earth in the future (at that time 1987) 
and finding the planet deserted. There is ceaseless speculation 
about some Earth habits like "toys" and the concept of "coffee-
break" (when this piece was written no doubt), but eventually they 
leave with no answers.

All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable comic book experience. 




From ripjagger@yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 05:49:35 2005
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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Son of Vulcan!
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1965,the superhero craze was beginning. Marvel was having solid 
success and soon the Batman TV show would create a brief but white-
hot superhero environment. Seeing the success of Marvel and DC with 
superheroes, others wanted in on the act. Charlton, a small company 
which reliably produced genre comics such as romance and westerns 
and war, wanted a piece of this action. The quickly revived (in 
reprint) Steve Ditko's Captain Atom, developed a new Blue Beetle 
(not yet by Ditko), explored adventure with Sarge Steel and 
Fightin'5, and invented Son of Vulcan, a brand new name and hero.

I currently reading through the original Son of Vulcan adventures in 
Mysteries On Unexplored Worlds #46-48 and Son of Vulcan #49-50. I've 
gotten through the first three issues, and here's a small review. 
The first two issues of this veteran Charlton hero were written by 
Pat Masulli, while the third issue was written by Charlton dynamo 
Joe Gill. The artwork in all three issues features pencils by Bill 
Fracchio and inks by Tony Tallarico. This clear because there are 
credits for each issue, all save for the actual origin story in the 
debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but indicative that 
they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than one at this time. 

The premise of the series is simple enough. The lame journalist 
Johnny Mann, a wounded veteran of Korea, is on the island of Cyprete 
and he is moaning the fate of man and blaming the gods for not doing 
more to help. The gods, especially Jupiter and Mars take offense and 
Johnny finds himself before the assembled gods of Rome pleading his 
case. Vulcan and Venus rise to his defense and ultimately he is 
given the chance to prove himself and is granted powers by Vulcan 
and Venus. Venus gives him vitality and Vulcan supplies him with an 
arrary of weapons that he can call upon when needed. With these 
Johnny heads back to Cyprete and confronts the Giant Gladiator, the 
robotic tool of Dr.Kong, the Meanest Man Alive. The newly dubbed Son 
of Vulcan is of course triumphant, but the final panel finds Dr.Kong 
plotting revenge. 

The second issue finds another mortal bemoaning his fate and 
becoming jealous of the Son of Vulcan who has become somewhat famous 
for his feats in the previous issue. (This bit of continuity was 
another rarity for Charlton at this time.)Mr.Lambe is a classic hen-
pecked husband and his complaints draw the attention of Mars who is 
likewise jealous of SoV. So he gives Lambe the gloves of Midas which 
can make things turn to gold for 48 hours (though Lambe doesn't know 
about the time limit). The new Midas turns his scolding wife to gold 
and then goes to the local evil financier to offer his skills. The 
guy takes him up on it and they proceed to turn all sorts of things 
to gold, not the least of which is the Son of Vulcan who attempts to 
stop them. The gold-thieves fall out and Lambe repents his crimes 
just as his wife returns to normal. Mars is needless to say unhappy 
when SoV returns the gloves to Jupiter and the plot is made known. 

That sets up the third issue, in which Son of Vulcan battles Mars 
directly. In this issue SoV goes to cover Captain Tusk, a tough but 
fair-minded whaler (how times have changed). Tusk though has been 
replaced by Mars who was recently cast out of Olympus by Jupiter and 
who has had his powers reduced. In the guise of Tusk he turns evil 
and confronts SoV, attempting to create a situation where SoV is 
blamed for the crimes. It almost works as Jupiter's wisdom seems to 
vanish from panel to panel, but in the final unfolding, Son of 
Vulcan and a not-totally-evil-we-see-at-last Mars actually work 
together to save the real Captain Tusk and his daughter from 
drowning. This shows I guess that Mars isn't all bad, though he's 
very petulant. The final panel suggests that Mars will have more 
schemes for Son of Vulcan to contend with in future issues. 

There is no denying that Son of Vulcan was inspired by Thor, or 
perhaps it's best to say that SoV was like Thor inspired by the Big 
Red Cheese, Captain Marvel. Johnny Mann looks remarably like an 
adult Billy Batson in the debut issue, and his limp is very mindful 
of both Dr.Don Blake and Freddy Freeman. The transformation of a 
mere mortal into a godly superhero is very similar. While Thor had 
his hammer, SoV has a host of weapons, but uses his shield a lot. 
There is not particularly dramatic way for him to become SoV, he 
just sort of thinks it and he becomes him. 

There will be two more issues of Son of Vulcan, as the character 
takes over the title of Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds for two 
issues. It will also mark an attempt to transform the character by 
giving him a new costume (created by Dave Cockrum no less) and 
returning some of his old villains. But more on that next time.



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Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had a good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team under a DC banner.
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Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
1965,the superhero craze was beginning. Marvel was having solid 
success and soon the Batman TV show would create a brief but white-
hot superhero environment. Seeing the success of Marvel and DC with 
superheroes, others wanted in on the act. Charlton, a small company 
which reliably produced genre comics such as romance and westerns 
and war, wanted a piece of this action. The quickly revived (in 
reprint) Steve Ditko's Captain Atom, developed a new Blue Beetle 
(not yet by Ditko), explored adventure with Sarge Steel and 
Fightin'5, and invented Son of Vulcan, a brand new name and hero.

I currently reading through the original Son of Vulcan adventures in 
Mysteries On Unexplored Worlds #46-48 and Son of Vulcan #49-50. I've 
gotten through the first three issues, and here's a small review. 
The first two issues of this veteran Charlton hero were written by 
Pat Masulli, while the third issue was written by Charlton dynamo 
Joe Gill. The artwork in all three issues features pencils by Bill 
Fracchio and inks by Tony Tallarico. This clear because there are 
credits for each issue, all save for the actual origin story in the 
debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but indicative that 
they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than one at this time. 

The premise of the series is simple enough. The lame journalist 
Johnny Mann, a wounded veteran of Korea, is on the island of Cyprete 
and he is moaning the fate of man and blaming the gods for not doing 
more to help. The gods, especially Jupiter and Mars take offense and 
Johnny finds himself before the assembled gods of Rome pleading his 
case. Vulcan and Venus rise to his defense and ultimately he is 
given the chance to prove himself and is granted powers by Vulcan 
and Venus. Venus gives him vitality and Vulcan supplies him with an 
arrary of weapons that he can call upon when needed. With these 
Johnny heads back to Cyprete and confronts the Giant Gladiator, the 
robotic tool of Dr.Kong, the Meanest Man Alive. The newly dubbed Son 
of Vulcan is of course triumphant, but the final panel finds Dr.Kong 
plotting revenge. 

The second issue finds another mortal bemoaning his fate and 
becoming jealous of the Son of Vulcan who has become somewhat famous 
for his feats in the previous issue. (This bit of continuity was 
another rarity for Charlton at this time.)Mr.Lambe is a classic hen-
pecked husband and his complaints draw the attention of Mars who is 
likewise jealous of SoV. So he gives Lambe the gloves of Midas which 
can make things turn to gold for 48 hours (though Lambe doesn't know 
about the time limit). The new Midas turns his scolding wife to gold 
and then goes to the local evil financier to offer his skills. The 
guy takes him up on it and they proceed to turn all sorts of things 
to gold, not the least of which is the Son of Vulcan who attempts to 
stop them. The gold-thieves fall out and Lambe repents his crimes 
just as his wife returns to normal. Mars is needless to say unhappy 
when SoV returns the gloves to Jupiter and the plot is made known. 

That sets up the third issue, in which Son of Vulcan battles Mars 
directly. In this issue SoV goes to cover Captain Tusk, a tough but 
fair-minded whaler (how times have changed). Tusk though has been 
replaced by Mars who was recently cast out of Olympus by Jupiter and 
who has had his powers reduced. In the guise of Tusk he turns evil 
and confronts SoV, attempting to create a situation where SoV is 
blamed for the crimes. It almost works as Jupiter's wisdom seems to 
vanish from panel to panel, but in the final unfolding, Son of 
Vulcan and a not-totally-evil-we-see-at-last Mars actually work 
together to save the real Captain Tusk and his daughter from 
drowning. This shows I guess that Mars isn't all bad, though he's 
very petulant. The final panel suggests that Mars will have more 
schemes for Son of Vulcan to contend with in future issues. 

There is no denying that Son of Vulcan was inspired by Thor, or 
perhaps it's best to say that SoV was like Thor inspired by the Big 
Red Cheese, Captain Marvel. Johnny Mann looks remarably like an 
adult Billy Batson in the debut issue, and his limp is very mindful 
of both Dr.Don Blake and Freddy Freeman. The transformation of a 
mere mortal into a godly superhero is very similar. While Thor had 
his hammer, SoV has a host of weapons, but uses his shield a lot. 
There is not particularly dramatic way for him to become SoV, he 
just sort of thinks it and he becomes him. 

There will be two more issues of Son of Vulcan, as the character 
takes over the title of Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds for two 
issues. It will also mark an attempt to transform the character by 
giving him a new costume (created by Dave Cockrum no less) and 
returning some of his old villains. But more on that next time.




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The last two issues of Charlton's Son of Vulcan (the title of 
Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds was changed with issue #49 and 
continued through #50 before the title became Thunderbolt with #51 
(love that Charlton numbering  ). 

Son of Vulcan gets a new costume, a somewhat more ornate armor 
courtesy of fanboy Dave Cockrum (a neat harbinger of the costuming 
revolution he'd later bring to the Legion), but inside the book the 
story by Joe Gill and the art by penciller Bill Fracchio 
(alternately spelled "Fraccio"...I'm not sure which is correct) and 
inker Tony Tallarico remains consistent if not stellar. Dr.Kong, the 
Meanest Man Alive returns to battle SoV, and this time the scheme is 
one to steal some diamonds. Kong is running a scam, pretending to 
run and star in a Chinese dance troup which is right beside some 
particularly well-filled vault. Kong gets help from Mars, still 
condemned to Earth and going by the name of "Mr.Masters". The 
two "villains" combine to battle SoV who stumbles across the scheme 
but eventually turn on each other as Mars has limits to his perfidy, 
wanting mostly embarass SoV and not kill him, while Kong (being 
the "Meanest Man Alive" of course) is a bit more bloodthirsty. After 
some hectic activity he is captured in his one-man submarine and 
sent to the bottom of the river. Meanwhile Mars plots SoV's downfall 
in the final panel. The highlight of this issue is when Mars and 
Kong conspire to trap SoV by hammering his unconscious form with a 
piledriver at a convenient worksite. SoV gets help from above and 
escapes. Also clever is the use of the touch of Midas (the real guy 
not the villain fromt he second story) who gives SoV the ability to 
change a concrete wall to soft gold and consequently escape. But all 
in all this is a somewhat bland issue, with little new turns in the 
saga.

The next and as it turns out last issue of Son of Vulcan is a bit 
more interesting. Roy Thomas, another fanboy turned professional 
talent, takes up the scripting chores on this ultimate episode and 
offers something a bit tastier than the sturdy but bland Gill 
scripts. The art team stays stable. We meet Johnny Mann, reporting 
on a movie set with the director Mr.Colosso. The movie is about the 
Fall of Troy and features the usual spoiled actress as a romantic 
foil. There is some bad luck befalling the production, and Johnny 
Mann as Son of Vulcan (at this point Mann must actually speak to 
become SoV and there's lightning involved...Fawcett alert!)agrees to 
stay and help out with the production taking over the role of 
Achilles. Things progress slowly. The villain is again Dr.Kong, 
inexplicably having survived the submarine disaster from the 
previous issue, and aided by his robotic servant "Adam Klink" he is 
trying to sabotage the movie. I don't think I ever gathered what his 
motive was exactly, but it does put him in conflict with SoV so that 
works I guess. Kong also has an "Anima-Ray" which can animate 
anything. SoV tracks Adam Klink who has kidnapped the actress to 
Kong's lair, but has to change to the smaller Mann to follow him 
down a hole. Needless to say he's captured, gagged and forced to 
endure the villain's bragging (Fawcett alert!). Eventually he gets 
free, become Son of Vulcan destroys Adam and later battles a giant 
Trojan Horse (the prop for the movie) which has been quickened by 
the Anima-Ray. After a hefty battle SoV is forced to battle some 
water which has been animated, before turning the wave back on Kong 
and defeating him. Cut to six months later at the movies premiere 
and Johnny Mann finishes up the tale by antagonizing the actress, 
and oddly speculates she must be taken with Son of Vulcan. The final 
panel features Kong plotting revenge.

But it's never to be as this is the last issue. Son of Vulcan will 
become Thunderbolt with the next issue, and will disappear into the 
mists of the Silver Age, to show up rarely in the DC Universe from 
time to time. DC is currently reviving the name, but apparently not 
the hero. Clearly Roy Thomas picked up on the Big Red Cheese 
similarities and played on them in his script. He would also script 
a single issue of Blue Beetle, the last issue of that title too (for 
a little while anyway). Given Roy's penchant for killing series, I'm 
surprised Stan hired the guy! 




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Very interesting.  Never heard of this character.  Any
links to images of him on the web?

Jim~>



--- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 1965,the superhero craze was beginning. Marvel was
> having solid 
> success and soon the Batman TV show would create a
> brief but white-
> hot superhero environment. Seeing the success of
> Marvel and DC with 
> superheroes, others wanted in on the act. Charlton,
> a small company 
> which reliably produced genre comics such as romance
> and westerns 
> and war, wanted a piece of this action. The quickly
> revived (in 
> reprint) Steve Ditko's Captain Atom, developed a new
> Blue Beetle 
> (not yet by Ditko), explored adventure with Sarge
> Steel and 
> Fightin'5, and invented Son of Vulcan, a brand new
> name and hero.
> 
> I currently reading through the original Son of
> Vulcan adventures in 
> Mysteries On Unexplored Worlds #46-48 and Son of
> Vulcan #49-50. I've 
> gotten through the first three issues, and here's a
> small review. 
> The first two issues of this veteran Charlton hero
> were written by 
> Pat Masulli, while the third issue was written by
> Charlton dynamo 
> Joe Gill. The artwork in all three issues features
> pencils by Bill 
> Fracchio and inks by Tony Tallarico. This clear
> because there are 
> credits for each issue, all save for the actual
> origin story in the 
> debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but
> indicative that 
> they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than one
> at this time. 
> 
> The premise of the series is simple enough. The lame
> journalist 
> Johnny Mann, a wounded veteran of Korea, is on the
> island of Cyprete 
> and he is moaning the fate of man and blaming the
> gods for not doing 
> more to help. The gods, especially Jupiter and Mars
> take offense and 
> Johnny finds himself before the assembled gods of
> Rome pleading his 
> case. Vulcan and Venus rise to his defense and
> ultimately he is 
> given the chance to prove himself and is granted
> powers by Vulcan 
> and Venus. Venus gives him vitality and Vulcan
> supplies him with an 
> arrary of weapons that he can call upon when needed.
> With these 
> Johnny heads back to Cyprete and confronts the Giant
> Gladiator, the 
> robotic tool of Dr.Kong, the Meanest Man Alive. The
> newly dubbed Son 
> of Vulcan is of course triumphant, but the final
> panel finds Dr.Kong 
> plotting revenge. 
> 
> The second issue finds another mortal bemoaning his
> fate and 
> becoming jealous of the Son of Vulcan who has become
> somewhat famous 
> for his feats in the previous issue. (This bit of
> continuity was 
> another rarity for Charlton at this time.)Mr.Lambe
> is a classic hen-
> pecked husband and his complaints draw the attention
> of Mars who is 
> likewise jealous of SoV. So he gives Lambe the
> gloves of Midas which 
> can make things turn to gold for 48 hours (though
> Lambe doesn't know 
> about the time limit). The new Midas turns his
> scolding wife to gold 
> and then goes to the local evil financier to offer
> his skills. The 
> guy takes him up on it and they proceed to turn all
> sorts of things 
> to gold, not the least of which is the Son of Vulcan
> who attempts to 
> stop them. The gold-thieves fall out and Lambe
> repents his crimes 
> just as his wife returns to normal. Mars is needless
> to say unhappy 
> when SoV returns the gloves to Jupiter and the plot
> is made known. 
> 
> That sets up the third issue, in which Son of Vulcan
> battles Mars 
> directly. In this issue SoV goes to cover Captain
> Tusk, a tough but 
> fair-minded whaler (how times have changed). Tusk
> though has been 
> replaced by Mars who was recently cast out of
> Olympus by Jupiter and 
> who has had his powers reduced. In the guise of Tusk
> he turns evil 
> and confronts SoV, attempting to create a situation
> where SoV is 
> blamed for the crimes. It almost works as Jupiter's
> wisdom seems to 
> vanish from panel to panel, but in the final
> unfolding, Son of 
> Vulcan and a not-totally-evil-we-see-at-last Mars
> actually work 
> together to save the real Captain Tusk and his
> daughter from 
> drowning. This shows I guess that Mars isn't all
> bad, though he's 
> very petulant. The final panel suggests that Mars
> will have more 
> schemes for Son of Vulcan to contend with in future
> issues. 
> 
> There is no denying that Son of Vulcan was inspired
> by Thor, or 
> perhaps it's best to say that SoV was like Thor
> inspired by the Big 
> Red Cheese, Captain Marvel. Johnny Mann looks
> remarably like an 
> adult Billy Batson in the debut issue, and his limp
> is very mindful 
> of both Dr.Don Blake and Freddy Freeman. The
> transformation of a 
> mere mortal into a godly superhero is very similar.
> While Thor had 
> his hammer, SoV has a host of weapons, but uses his
> shield a lot. 
> There is not particularly dramatic way for him to
> become SoV, he 
> just sort of thinks it and he becomes him. 
> 
> There will be two more issues of Son of Vulcan, as
> the character 
> takes over the title of Mysteries of Unexplored
> Worlds for two 
> issues. It will also mark an attempt to transform
> the character by 
> giving him a new costume (created by Dave Cockrum no
> less) and 
> returning some of his old villains. But more on that
> next time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 



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Jim.
Here's on link that I know of.  It's the International superheroes site.  It is one of the best sites I've found for information on heroes, domestic and foreign.  
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sonvulc.htm
John Pacler

Jim Johnston <jimjohnston2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Very interesting.  Never heard of this character.  Any
links to images of him on the web?

Jim~>



--- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 1965,the superhero craze was beginning. Marvel was
> having solid 
> success and soon the Batman TV show would create a
> brief but white-
> hot superhero environment. Seeing the success of
> Marvel and DC with 
> superheroes, others wanted in on the act. Charlton,
> a small company 
> which reliably produced genre comics such as romance
> and westerns 
> and war, wanted a piece of this action. The quickly
> revived (in 
> reprint) Steve Ditko's Captain Atom, developed a new
> Blue Beetle 
> (not yet by Ditko), explored adventure with Sarge
> Steel and 
> Fightin'5, and invented Son of Vulcan, a brand new
> name and hero.
> 
> I currently reading through the original Son of
> Vulcan adventures in 
> Mysteries On Unexplored Worlds #46-48 and Son of
> Vulcan #49-50. I've 
> gotten through the first three issues, and here's a
> small review. 
> The first two issues of this veteran Charlton hero
> were written by 
> Pat Masulli, while the third issue was written by
> Charlton dynamo 
> Joe Gill. The artwork in all three issues features
> pencils by Bill 
> Fracchio and inks by Tony Tallarico. This clear
> because there are 
> credits for each issue, all save for the actual
> origin story in the 
> debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but
> indicative that 
> they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than one
> at this time. 
> 
> The premise of the series is simple enough. The lame
> journalist 
> Johnny Mann, a wounded veteran of Korea, is on the
> island of Cyprete 
> and he is moaning the fate of man and blaming the
> gods for not doing 
> more to help. The gods, especially Jupiter and Mars
> take offense and 
> Johnny finds himself before the assembled gods of
> Rome pleading his 
> case. Vulcan and Venus rise to his defense and
> ultimately he is 
> given the chance to prove himself and is granted
> powers by Vulcan 
> and Venus. Venus gives him vitality and Vulcan
> supplies him with an 
> arrary of weapons that he can call upon when needed.
> With these 
> Johnny heads back to Cyprete and confronts the Giant
> Gladiator, the 
> robotic tool of Dr.Kong, the Meanest Man Alive. The
> newly dubbed Son 
> of Vulcan is of course triumphant, but the final
> panel finds Dr.Kong 
> plotting revenge. 
> 
> The second issue finds another mortal bemoaning his
> fate and 
> becoming jealous of the Son of Vulcan who has become
> somewhat famous 
> for his feats in the previous issue. (This bit of
> continuity was 
> another rarity for Charlton at this time.)Mr.Lambe
> is a classic hen-
> pecked husband and his complaints draw the attention
> of Mars who is 
> likewise jealous of SoV. So he gives Lambe the
> gloves of Midas which 
> can make things turn to gold for 48 hours (though
> Lambe doesn't know 
> about the time limit). The new Midas turns his
> scolding wife to gold 
> and then goes to the local evil financier to offer
> his skills. The 
> guy takes him up on it and they proceed to turn all
> sorts of things 
> to gold, not the least of which is the Son of Vulcan
> who attempts to 
> stop them. The gold-thieves fall out and Lambe
> repents his crimes 
> just as his wife returns to normal. Mars is needless
> to say unhappy 
> when SoV returns the gloves to Jupiter and the plot
> is made known. 
> 
> That sets up the third issue, in which Son of Vulcan
> battles Mars 
> directly. In this issue SoV goes to cover Captain
> Tusk, a tough but 
> fair-minded whaler (how times have changed). Tusk
> though has been 
> replaced by Mars who was recently cast out of
> Olympus by Jupiter and 
> who has had his powers reduced. In the guise of Tusk
> he turns evil 
> and confronts SoV, attempting to create a situation
> where SoV is 
> blamed for the crimes. It almost works as Jupiter's
> wisdom seems to 
> vanish from panel to panel, but in the final
> unfolding, Son of 
> Vulcan and a not-totally-evil-we-see-at-last Mars
> actually work 
> together to save the real Captain Tusk and his
> daughter from 
> drowning. This shows I guess that Mars isn't all
> bad, though he's 
> very petulant. The final panel suggests that Mars
> will have more 
> schemes for Son of Vulcan to contend with in future
> issues. 
> 
> There is no denying that Son of Vulcan was inspired
> by Thor, or 
> perhaps it's best to say that SoV was like Thor
> inspired by the Big 
> Red Cheese, Captain Marvel. Johnny Mann looks
> remarably like an 
> adult Billy Batson in the debut issue, and his limp
> is very mindful 
> of both Dr.Don Blake and Freddy Freeman. The
> transformation of a 
> mere mortal into a godly superhero is very similar.
> While Thor had 
> his hammer, SoV has a host of weapons, but uses his
> shield a lot. 
> There is not particularly dramatic way for him to
> become SoV, he 
> just sort of thinks it and he becomes him. 
> 
> There will be two more issues of Son of Vulcan, as
> the character 
> takes over the title of Mysteries of Unexplored
> Worlds for two 
> issues. It will also mark an attempt to transform
> the character by 
> giving him a new costume (created by Dave Cockrum no
> less) and 
> returning some of his old villains. But more on that
> next time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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> 
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> 
>  
> 
> 
> 



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In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:51:31 AM Eastern  Daylight Time, 
ripjagger@yahoo.com writes:
>This clear because there are  
>credits for each issue, all save for the actual origin story in the  
>debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but indicative that  
>they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than one at this time.  

or they were influenced by the same company that influenced Marvel to  start 
credits: ACG.  ACG started running  full credits in  1957.   one of ACG's 
artists, George Klein, went briefly to Marvel in  the late 50s- early 60s, before 
going to DC, so Lee would have heard of their  practice.  

steven rowe  


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I didn't know that about ACG. Thanks for the information Steve. 
Certainly the cult of creators that Marvel sparked when they adopted 
the practice made it once and for all a part of the comics industry, 
but I didn't really know an earlier company had done credits regularly 
before.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
<johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did 
all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere 
one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and 
NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't 
part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done 
with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some 
years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had a 
good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle 
them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team 
under a DC banner.
> John Packer 
> 

Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were 
coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as 
Thunderbolt.

Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by AC 
Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of 
Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.

DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the 
Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".

Michael Brown



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Michael.
 
I realized after I sent the email that that one-shot was pubbed by AC.  Even though DC, killed off SoV; it was primarily the other Charlton Action Heroes that I was talking about.  Also, I think if Charlto had some foresight, they would not have cancelled SoV, but come up with a team pub with all their Action Heroes (excluding Judo Master who was situated in another time; though they could have updated the character to the present.) As a matter of fact I gave them a porposal for bringing JM to the present, which they liked, but they folded before we could proceed.  
I don't know if they just lacked vision, or there wer other reasons for them folding.  But, they could have done a lot with these characters.  Probably enough to be competitve with DC/Marvel.  The characters were good enough, and had some top talent working on them.
John Packer

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
<johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did 
all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere 
one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and 
NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't 
part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done 
with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some 
years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had a 
good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle 
them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team 
under a DC banner.
> John Packer 
> 

Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were 
coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as 
Thunderbolt.

Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by AC 
Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of 
Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.

DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the 
Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".

Michael Brown




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Have to agree with you, Its a shame that Charlton underappreciated 
what they had created, I think if they had shopped there company to a 
buyer that would have used the material rather than dumping it piece 
by piece someone could have still made a go. I recall sending them a 
letter at the time they tried to resurrect the company questioning 
the titles they chose to run with, heck I am still curious why they 
did that, seemed doomed from the start. Really too bad and its sad 
because DC has never really done anything with these characters 
either, prob why I dont actively collect any new titles anymore, just 
buy the old charltons on ebay!



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
<johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Michael.
>  
> I realized after I sent the email that that one-shot was pubbed by 
AC.  Even though DC, killed off SoV; it was primarily the other 
Charlton Action Heroes that I was talking about.  Also, I think if 
Charlto had some foresight, they would not have cancelled SoV, but 
come up with a team pub with all their Action Heroes (excluding Judo 
Master who was situated in another time; though they could have 
updated the character to the present.) As a matter of fact I gave 
them a porposal for bringing JM to the present, which they liked, but 
they folded before we could proceed.  
> I don't know if they just lacked vision, or there wer other reasons 
for them folding.  But, they could have done a lot with these 
characters.  Probably enough to be competitve with DC/Marvel.  The 
characters were good enough, and had some top talent working on them.
> John Packer
> 
> Michael Brown <emb021@m...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
> <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> > Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did 
> all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere 
> one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and 
> NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't 
> part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done 
> with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some 
> years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had 
a 
> good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle 
> them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team 
> under a DC banner.
> > John Packer 
> > 
> 
> Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were 
> coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as 
> Thunderbolt.
> 
> Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by 
AC 
> Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of 
> Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.
> 
> DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the 
> Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".
> 
> Michael Brown
> 
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On 6/22/05, sangorshop@aol.com <sangorshop@aol.com> wrote:

> or they were influenced by the same company that influenced Marvel to  st=
art
> credits: ACG.  ACG started running  full credits in  1957.   one of ACG's=
=20
> artists, George Klein, went briefly to Marvel in  the late 50s- early 60s=
,
> before=20
> going to DC, so Lee would have heard of their  practice.=20=20

I've also seen some late 1950's "Woody Woodpecker" comics which listed
story-by-story credits in the inside front cover. I don't know how
long this practice lasted, or if it was widespread throughout the
other Dell titles.

Rodrigo Baeza
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John,
 
Just in case you may perhaps not be aware and may be interested to know, AC Comics published two different comic books featuring the "Charlton Action heroes" teamed up, not one. One of them featured the Ted Kord Blue Beetle fighting the previous Blue Beetle Dan Garrett, who 'seemingly' returned from the dead, and blamed Ted Kord for his demise.
 
Best, 
 
Phil Latter

chrisgentz <chrisgentz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have to agree with you, Its a shame that Charlton underappreciated 
what they had created, I think if they had shopped there company to a 
buyer that would have used the material rather than dumping it piece 
by piece someone could have still made a go. I recall sending them a 
letter at the time they tried to resurrect the company questioning 
the titles they chose to run with, heck I am still curious why they 
did that, seemed doomed from the start. Really too bad and its sad 
because DC has never really done anything with these characters 
either, prob why I dont actively collect any new titles anymore, just 
buy the old charltons on ebay!



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<johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Michael.
>  
> I realized after I sent the email that that one-shot was pubbed by 
AC.  Even though DC, killed off SoV; it was primarily the other 
Charlton Action Heroes that I was talking about.  Also, I think if 
Charlto had some foresight, they would not have cancelled SoV, but 
come up with a team pub with all their Action Heroes (excluding Judo 
Master who was situated in another time; though they could have 
updated the character to the present.) As a matter of fact I gave 
them a porposal for bringing JM to the present, which they liked, but 
they folded before we could proceed.  
> I don't know if they just lacked vision, or there wer other reasons 
for them folding.  But, they could have done a lot with these 
characters.  Probably enough to be competitve with DC/Marvel.  The 
characters were good enough, and had some top talent working on them.
> John Packer
> 
> Michael Brown <emb021@m...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
> <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> > Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did 
> all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere 
> one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and 
> NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't 
> part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done 
> with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some 
> years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had 
a 
> good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle 
> them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team 
> under a DC banner.
> > John Packer 
> > 
> 
> Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were 
> coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as 
> Thunderbolt.
> 
> Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by 
AC 
> Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of 
> Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.
> 
> DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the 
> Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".
> 
> Michael Brown
> 
> 
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Thanks very much.  Quite a decent image - not as
cheesey as I thought he might be.  Cheers.

Jim~>

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> Jim.
> Here's on link that I know of.  It's the
> International superheroes site.  It is one of the
> best sites I've found for information on heroes,
> domestic and foreign.  
> http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sonvulc.htm
> John Pacler
> 
> Jim Johnston <jimjohnston2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Very interesting.  Never heard of this character. 
> Any
> links to images of him on the web?
> 
> Jim~>
> 
> 
> 
> --- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > 1965,the superhero craze was beginning. Marvel was
> > having solid 
> > success and soon the Batman TV show would create a
> > brief but white-
> > hot superhero environment. Seeing the success of
> > Marvel and DC with 
> > superheroes, others wanted in on the act.
> Charlton,
> > a small company 
> > which reliably produced genre comics such as
> romance
> > and westerns 
> > and war, wanted a piece of this action. The
> quickly
> > revived (in 
> > reprint) Steve Ditko's Captain Atom, developed a
> new
> > Blue Beetle 
> > (not yet by Ditko), explored adventure with Sarge
> > Steel and 
> > Fightin'5, and invented Son of Vulcan, a brand new
> > name and hero.
> > 
> > I currently reading through the original Son of
> > Vulcan adventures in 
> > Mysteries On Unexplored Worlds #46-48 and Son of
> > Vulcan #49-50. I've 
> > gotten through the first three issues, and here's
> a
> > small review. 
> > The first two issues of this veteran Charlton hero
> > were written by 
> > Pat Masulli, while the third issue was written by
> > Charlton dynamo 
> > Joe Gill. The artwork in all three issues features
> > pencils by Bill 
> > Fracchio and inks by Tony Tallarico. This clear
> > because there are 
> > credits for each issue, all save for the actual
> > origin story in the 
> > debut. That's rare for Charlton at this time, but
> > indicative that 
> > they were influenced by Marvel in more ways than
> one
> > at this time. 
> > 
> > The premise of the series is simple enough. The
> lame
> > journalist 
> > Johnny Mann, a wounded veteran of Korea, is on the
> > island of Cyprete 
> > and he is moaning the fate of man and blaming the
> > gods for not doing 
> > more to help. The gods, especially Jupiter and
> Mars
> > take offense and 
> > Johnny finds himself before the assembled gods of
> > Rome pleading his 
> > case. Vulcan and Venus rise to his defense and
> > ultimately he is 
> > given the chance to prove himself and is granted
> > powers by Vulcan 
> > and Venus. Venus gives him vitality and Vulcan
> > supplies him with an 
> > arrary of weapons that he can call upon when
> needed.
> > With these 
> > Johnny heads back to Cyprete and confronts the
> Giant
> > Gladiator, the 
> > robotic tool of Dr.Kong, the Meanest Man Alive.
> The
> > newly dubbed Son 
> > of Vulcan is of course triumphant, but the final
> > panel finds Dr.Kong 
> > plotting revenge. 
> > 
> > The second issue finds another mortal bemoaning
> his
> > fate and 
> > becoming jealous of the Son of Vulcan who has
> become
> > somewhat famous 
> > for his feats in the previous issue. (This bit of
> > continuity was 
> > another rarity for Charlton at this time.)Mr.Lambe
> > is a classic hen-
> > pecked husband and his complaints draw the
> attention
> > of Mars who is 
> > likewise jealous of SoV. So he gives Lambe the
> > gloves of Midas which 
> > can make things turn to gold for 48 hours (though
> > Lambe doesn't know 
> > about the time limit). The new Midas turns his
> > scolding wife to gold 
> > and then goes to the local evil financier to offer
> > his skills. The 
> > guy takes him up on it and they proceed to turn
> all
> > sorts of things 
> > to gold, not the least of which is the Son of
> Vulcan
> > who attempts to 
> > stop them. The gold-thieves fall out and Lambe
> > repents his crimes 
> > just as his wife returns to normal. Mars is
> needless
> > to say unhappy 
> > when SoV returns the gloves to Jupiter and the
> plot
> > is made known. 
> > 
> > That sets up the third issue, in which Son of
> Vulcan
> > battles Mars 
> > directly. In this issue SoV goes to cover Captain
> > Tusk, a tough but 
> > fair-minded whaler (how times have changed). Tusk
> > though has been 
> > replaced by Mars who was recently cast out of
> > Olympus by Jupiter and 
> > who has had his powers reduced. In the guise of
> Tusk
> > he turns evil 
> > and confronts SoV, attempting to create a
> situation
> > where SoV is 
> > blamed for the crimes. It almost works as
> Jupiter's
> > wisdom seems to 
> > vanish from panel to panel, but in the final
> > unfolding, Son of 
> > Vulcan and a not-totally-evil-we-see-at-last Mars
> > actually work 
> > together to save the real Captain Tusk and his
> > daughter from 
> > drowning. This shows I guess that Mars isn't all
> > bad, though he's 
> > very petulant. The final panel suggests that Mars
> > will have more 
> > schemes for Son of Vulcan to contend with in
> future
> > issues. 
> > 
> > There is no denying that Son of Vulcan was
> inspired
> > by Thor, or 
> > perhaps it's best to say that SoV was like Thor
> > inspired by the Big 
> > Red Cheese, Captain Marvel. Johnny Mann looks
> > remarably like an 
> > adult Billy Batson in the debut issue, and his
> limp
> > is very mindful 
> > of both Dr.Don Blake and Freddy Freeman. The
> > transformation of a 
> > mere mortal into a godly superhero is very
> similar.
> > While Thor had 
> > his hammer, SoV has a host of weapons, but uses
> his
> > shield a lot. 
> > There is not particularly dramatic way for him to
> > become SoV, he 
> > just sort of thinks it and he becomes him. 
> > 
> > There will be two more issues of Son of Vulcan, as
> > the character 
> > takes over the title of Mysteries of Unexplored
> > Worlds for two 
> > issues. It will also mark an attempt to transform
> > the character by 
> > giving him a new costume (created by Dave Cockrum
> no
> > less) and 
> > returning some of his old villains. But more on
> that
> > next time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Thanks, Phil.  I vaguely remember seeing an ad for that some time ago, but I had forgotten about it.  Who won?  (As if I didn't know.)
John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
John,

Just in case you may perhaps not be aware and may be interested to know, AC Comics published two different comic books featuring the "Charlton Action heroes" teamed up, not one. One of them featured the Ted Kord Blue Beetle fighting the previous Blue Beetle Dan Garrett, who 'seemingly' returned from the dead, and blamed Ted Kord for his demise.

Best, 

Phil Latter

chrisgentz <chrisgentz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have to agree with you, Its a shame that Charlton underappreciated 
what they had created, I think if they had shopped there company to a 
buyer that would have used the material rather than dumping it piece 
by piece someone could have still made a go. I recall sending them a 
letter at the time they tried to resurrect the company questioning 
the titles they chose to run with, heck I am still curious why they 
did that, seemed doomed from the start. Really too bad and its sad 
because DC has never really done anything with these characters 
either, prob why I dont actively collect any new titles anymore, just 
buy the old charltons on ebay!



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
<johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> Michael.
>  
> I realized after I sent the email that that one-shot was pubbed by 
AC.  Even though DC, killed off SoV; it was primarily the other 
Charlton Action Heroes that I was talking about.  Also, I think if 
Charlto had some foresight, they would not have cancelled SoV, but 
come up with a team pub with all their Action Heroes (excluding Judo 
Master who was situated in another time; though they could have 
updated the character to the present.) As a matter of fact I gave 
them a porposal for bringing JM to the present, which they liked, but 
they folded before we could proceed.  
> I don't know if they just lacked vision, or there wer other reasons 
for them folding.  But, they could have done a lot with these 
characters.  Probably enough to be competitve with DC/Marvel.  The 
characters were good enough, and had some top talent working on them.
> John Packer
> 
> Michael Brown <emb021@m...> wrote:
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer 
> <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
> > Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did 
> all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere 
> one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and 
> NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't 
> part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done 
> with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some 
> years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had 
a 
> good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle 
> them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team 
> under a DC banner.
> > John Packer 
> > 
> 
> Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were 
> coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as 
> Thunderbolt.
> 
> Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by 
AC 
> Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of 
> Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.
> 
> DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the 
> Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".
> 
> Michael Brown
> 
> 
> 
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> John,
>  
> Just in case you may perhaps not be aware and may be interested to 
know, AC Comics published two different comic books featuring 
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the Ted Kord Blue Beetle fighting the previous Blue Beetle Dan Garrett, 
who 'seemingly' returned from the dead, and blamed Ted Kord for his 
demise.
>  

that was in Americomics #3.  Bill Black (AC's owner) had worked for 
Charlton around that time, and was able to get permission to publish 
some of the left over Action Hero stuff that had been planned (I think) 
for the Charlton Bullseye.  There was an article by/about Bill Black on 
the last days of Charlton that was included in the second issue of 
Comic Book Artist devoted to Charlton (CBA #12).

Michael Brown



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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Action heroes at AC Comics
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Ted Cord won.  Turned out the other Blue Beetle was a robot.  Then in a 
back-up story, the original Blue Beetle is brought back to life.
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> Thanks, Phil.  I vaguely remember seeing an ad for that some time ago, but 
> I had forgotten about it.  Who won?  (As if I didn't know.)
> John Packer
>
> Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> John,
>
> Just in case you may perhaps not be aware and may be interested to know, 
> AC Comics published two different comic books featuring the "Charlton 
> Action heroes" teamed up, not one. One of them featured the Ted Kord Blue 
> Beetle fighting the previous Blue Beetle Dan Garrett, who 'seemingly' 
> returned from the dead, and blamed Ted Kord for his demise.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> chrisgentz <chrisgentz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Have to agree with you, Its a shame that Charlton underappreciated
> what they had created, I think if they had shopped there company to a
> buyer that would have used the material rather than dumping it piece
> by piece someone could have still made a go. I recall sending them a
> letter at the time they tried to resurrect the company questioning
> the titles they chose to run with, heck I am still curious why they
> did that, seemed doomed from the start. Really too bad and its sad
> because DC has never really done anything with these characters
> either, prob why I dont actively collect any new titles anymore, just
> buy the old charltons on ebay!
>
>
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer
> <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
>> Michael.
>>
>> I realized after I sent the email that that one-shot was pubbed by
> AC.  Even though DC, killed off SoV; it was primarily the other
> Charlton Action Heroes that I was talking about.  Also, I think if
> Charlto had some foresight, they would not have cancelled SoV, but
> come up with a team pub with all their Action Heroes (excluding Judo
> Master who was situated in another time; though they could have
> updated the character to the present.) As a matter of fact I gave
> them a porposal for bringing JM to the present, which they liked, but
> they folded before we could proceed.
>> I don't know if they just lacked vision, or there wer other reasons
> for them folding.  But, they could have done a lot with these
> characters.  Probably enough to be competitve with DC/Marvel.  The
> characters were good enough, and had some top talent working on them.
>> John Packer
>>
>> Michael Brown <emb021@m...> wrote:
>> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, John Packer
>> <johnpacker2000@y...> wrote:
>> > Too bad Charlton folded.  I think SoV had great potential, as did
>> all of the Charlton action heroes.  I remember a Charlton Premiere
>> one-shot starring Captain Atom, The Question, Blue Bettle and
>> NightShade as the Sentinels of Justice.  Surprisingly, SoV wasn't
>> part of the team.  I haven't been much imrpessed what DC has done
>> with teh chracters.  When the brought out the Blue Beetle book some
>> years back, that was pretty good for a while; and Captain Aton had
> a
>> good start, but, I don't think they really had a plan on how handle
>> them.  I would have been nice to see a Sentinels of Justice team
>> under a DC banner.
>> > John Packer
>> >
>>
>> Keep in mind Charlton cancelled SoV as the other Action Heroes were
>> coming to the forefront.  The number of SoV would continue as
>> Thunderbolt.
>>
>> Also, that "Charlton Premiere one-shot" was actually published by
> AC
>> Comics as the Americomics Special.  AC would keep the Sentinels of
>> Justice name, but by that time, the characters had been sold to DC.
>>
>> DC really didn't use SoV.  They killed him off in the "War of the
>> Gods" mini that followed "Crisis".
>>
>> Michael Brown
>>
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Thanks.  I'll see if I can track down that article.  It is probably worth reading.
John Packer

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> John,
>  
> Just in case you may perhaps not be aware and may be interested to 
know, AC Comics published two different comic books featuring 
the "Charlton Action heroes" teamed up, not one. One of them featured 
the Ted Kord Blue Beetle fighting the previous Blue Beetle Dan Garrett, 
who 'seemingly' returned from the dead, and blamed Ted Kord for his 
demise.
>  

that was in Americomics #3.  Bill Black (AC's owner) had worked for 
Charlton around that time, and was able to get permission to publish 
some of the left over Action Hero stuff that had been planned (I think) 
for the Charlton Bullseye.  There was an article by/about Bill Black on 
the last days of Charlton that was included in the second issue of 
Comic Book Artist devoted to Charlton (CBA #12).

Michael Brown




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In a message dated 6/22/2005 11:15:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rodrigobaeza@gmail.com writes:
>I've also seen some late 1950's "Woody Woodpecker" comics which listed
>story-by-story credits in the inside front cover. I don't know how
>long this practice lasted, or if it was widespread throughout the
>other Dell titles.
I know that Dell did this for one month in 1952 - 
 and while I have over half of the Woody Woodpeckers, I dont recall them 
listing credits in the late 50s at all -- this during the LLoyd White years or the 
Paul Murray years?

steven rowe

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HI Gang, anyone interested in this left over item from the MIA Invade's late lamented Just_dcu group.

Please give it a good home.

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 Comic Book Artist 12 (70's Charlton Comics spotlight) Part 2 A must read for all Charlton fans

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On 6/23/05, sangorshop@aol.com <sangorshop@aol.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 6/22/2005 11:15:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20

> I know that Dell did this for one month in 1952 -=20
> and while I have over half of the Woody Woodpeckers, I dont recall them=20
> listing credits in the late 50s at all -- this during the LLoyd White yea=
rs
> or the=20
> Paul Murray years?

I noticed this while browsing through a handful of WW issues I
downloaded through bittorrent (and maybe it was in a 1952 issue as you
say, and not late 50's). I can check out which specific issues had
credits this afternoon or during the weekend, and send you the
relevant info. (I do remember noticing Paul Murry's art in some of
those books, but not in the ones with credits.)

Rodrigo
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Ramon Schenk, wrote to me that a few reacted negatively on my post
message. What I 
should of said, that these comics are from my own private collection
and I just wanted to 
sell them to "real" Charlton collectors. If I affended anyone by this
I am sorry. If anyone is 
interested on my books, see my last message or I'll be glad to send a
list to you. I'm also 
accepting any reasonable offers on my books. Thank you-

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Does anyone out there have any scans of Charlton Premiere #3?
Thanks,
John Packer



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I added a new picture to the blue beetle folder. It's called blue 
beetle b + w





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I thought the post was on topic. It's
not often these come up for sale.

Regards,

Peter
--
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Site: http://www.stuntman.co.nz      Email: stunts@paradise.net.nz
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Are you interested in some of the issues? If so, which
ones. I still have them all.
dinoboy295

--- Peter Hassall <stunts@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> 
> 
> I thought the post was on topic. It's
> not often these come up for sale.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> --
> Peter Hassall: Stunt Performer       Fight
> Choreographer
> Site: http://www.stuntman.co.nz      Email:
> stunts@paradise.net.nz
> Mobile: 021-167-1837   Post: PO Box 27432,
> Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
> 
> 
> 



		
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hello.  To save room here I started my own website dedicated to comic 
book characters in the media.  I went ahead and seperated the Charlton 
characters in there own section located here:
http://www.stx-superhero-report.com/charlton.html

The main website is here:
http://www.stx-superhero-report.com/

Now I will be going back and adding in more images of captain Atom and 
The Quesiton and the Lost images of the Electric Company's Blue 
Beetle.  It will be awhile (to many conventions to attend).  So enjoy 
and let me know what you think.  I am working on the website everyday, 
but there is just so much that needs to be added in. 




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Sad to hear, but true. The great Charlton master-artist has passed 
away. See the link below for details:

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?
s=1278f43198e3d09c561aa3f073c9489e&threadid=38552



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That link didn't work so let me offer the text of the article on 
Aparo's passing:


"The Aparo Family has asked me to send this information out to all 
parties. It is with the deepest regret I have to inform you of the 
passing of the legendary Jim Aparo early Tuesday Morning, July 19, 
2005. Mr. Aparo, who was 72, died from complications relating to a 
recent illness. All Funeral arrangements will be a private ceremony 
for Family and Friends of Jim.

Aparo, born in 1932, was primarily self-trained as an artist. After 
years of working in commercial fashion design in Connecticut, his 
first break in the comics field was with a comic strip called "Stern 
Wheeler," written by Ralph Kanna, which was published in 1963 in a 
Hartford, Connecticut newspaper for less than a year. In 1966, 
editor Dick Giordano at Charlton Comics hired him as a comic book 
artist, where his first assignment was a humorous character 
called "Miss Bikini Luv" in "Go-Go Comics." Over the next few years 
at Charlton, Aparo drew stories in many genres--Westerns, science 
fiction, romance, horror, mystery, and suspense. 

Aparo was notable for being one of the relatively few artists in 
mainstream comics at that time to serve as penciler, inker, and 
letterer for all of his work. These tasks were typically divided 
between two or more artists.

In the late 1960s, Aparo moved on to National Publications/DC 
Comics, which is where he came to fame in the Comics Community. 
Originally starting at DC on the Aquaman title, he then moved on to 
also work on the Phantom Stranger and DC's horror titles.

In 1971, Aparo worked on his first Issue of Brave & The Bold. Issue 
98 featured the Phantom Stranger teaming up with Batman. Beginning 
with Issue 102 Jim was then the regular artist on the series and 
provided pencils & inks on almost every issue from 102 until the end 
of the series with Issue 200. Jim's work on Brave and the Bold was 
his favorite work of his time at DC as he truly considered the 
series his "baby." Also during this period Jim did one of the 
seminal runs on The Spectre, where his realistic style made the 
Ghostly character truly come to life.

After the end of Brave and the Bold, Aparo was co-creator for Batman 
& The Outsiders and also worked on the regular Batman and Detective 
Comics Series throughout the 1980s and early 1990s. most notably 
doing the Pencils on the "Death in The Family" storyline, which 
featured a phone-in vote deciding the fate of Robin II, Jason Todd.

Following a run on the regular Green Arrow Series, Aparo moved into 
semiretirement, contributing an occasional special or cover and 
doing a few private commissions before he eventually decided to move 
into full retirement.

He is survived by his wife Julie, his 3 children, his 4 
Grandchildren and two step-grandchildren.

The Aparo family has asked that in lieu of Flowers or gifts, anyone 
wishing to honor Jim's legacy make a contribution to any worthy 
charity, as Jim believed that all charities were worth donating to.

For those wishing to send along their condolences and best wishes to 
the family, a P.O. Box has been set up for the family to receive 
cards. The address is:
THE APARO FAMILY
P.O. BOX 28
NORWALK, CONNECTICUT 06852 - 0028

Thanks to all who have loved Jim's work and have supported his 
career.

Spencer R. Beck
THE ARTIST'S CHOICE"





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Some cover.  Looks like Aparo.  That cover would definitely make me 
want to read the story inside.

John Packer




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I couldn't believe that another one of my childhood heroes is gone. He had a disinctive 
style that you could tell a mile away. When DC gave him my favorite character, Batman, I 
remember cheering in the drug store that the druggest told me to be quite or he was 
going to call the cops. Next to Adams Batman, Aparo was a close second in my book. I 
always wanted to meet him and thank him on giving me hours of pleasure. He is still very 
underrated as an artist.

What artists of this time peroid do not understand, you still have to be different, original in  
a style that separates you from the rest, not just a cheap knock-off. Frazetta once said 
"...why be a second class Frazetta when you can be a fist class you." That's Jim Aparo, he 
stood out, being his own man. When I first read of his death, I yelled out "SOB, death got 
another one." At least he with a few other legends, Kirby, Busema, Einser, Gil Kane, Wood, 
and now Aparo. I really hope that that they spit into death's eye and gave him hell. Thank 
you Mr. Aparo, thank you.

Terry Pavlet





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That cover is indeed by the late and great Jim Aparo. I put it up in 
honor of one of the finest craftsmen the comics field has seen in its 
history. Aparo did it all, and he did the way he wanted. 





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  To say, I am deeply saddened by the news of Jim Aparo's death, would be a=
n=20
understatement of immense proportions.=20
=A0 I only met Jim once, at a convention I attended in Madison Square Garde=
n a=20
few years ago. There weren't that many fans going up to his table because t=
hey=20
were all lined up to see the newest "hot" artists, so, I got to chat with h=
im=20
and tell him how much I liked his work. Jim was gracious and we had our=20
little talk. A genuinely nice man and great artist. I told him I would love=
 to see=20
his Thane Of Bagrath or Wander series from Charlton collected into a trade =
and=20
he said that it would be nice but was there a market for it?
=A0 Jim had made copies of Batman and Green Arrow sketches in pen and ink a=
nd=20
gave them away, free of charge, autographed to me and any anyone else who c=
ame=20
to his table. It was very generous of him to do that for his fans.
=A0 An artist of great ability, who not only penciled but inked his own wor=
k.=20
Jim Aparo will be missed by all who have ever read and appreciated his art=
=20
work.
=A0 Rest In Peace, Jim.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Tony D.=20


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Here's a link to Tony's Online Tips where today he gives a detailed 
analysis of that monster classic from Charlton:

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony/

Enjoy!




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--- Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's a link to Tony's Online Tips where today he
> gives a detailed analysis of that monster classic
from Charlton: http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony/
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail (Kipling),
also brifely crossed over into a Gorgo issue to handle
the air arm of the latest alien invasion that Gorgo &
mom were busily stamping out. (literaly)

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Really? What issue of Gorgo was that?
Ramon


>From: Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>:
>The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail (Kipling),
>also brifely crossed over into a Gorgo issue to handle
>the air arm of the latest alien invasion that Gorgo &
>mom were busily stamping out. (literaly)



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Is this a poem or a story by Kipling?

Jim~>
> The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail
> (Kipling),
> also brifely crossed over into a Gorgo issue to
> handle
> the air arm of the latest alien invasion that Gorgo



Jim~>










		
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Sorry, don't think I have the issue. I used to read
all that stuff over a Zombie fountain drink at the
drugstore. IIRC, Rep only appeared in two or three
panels including a full page one that doubled as the
cover.

BTW, I'd never heard or seen an explaination of the
title change before. Was Tony serious?

One issue I do own has the Soviets capturing him.
After they use his cable wrapped body for extensive
propaganda, the U.S. President sends troops to free
him. Since the poor lizard had been nearly starved to
death, the commander of the rescue orders a massive
food drop deep into Soviet territory. Once fed, Rep
immediately heads for Moscow where he brings the
Kremlin down around Fearless Leader's ears.

One wonders if Joe Gill, or his spirit, might have
authored various episodes of Hercules & Xena. The one
with the giant chicken, for instance.

--- Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Really? What issue of Gorgo was that?
> Ramon
> 
> 
> >From: Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>:
> >The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail
> (Kipling),also brifely crossed over into a Gorgo
issue to handle the air arm of the latest alien
invasion that Gorgo & mom were busily stamping out. (literaly)

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--- Jim Johnston <jimjohnston2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Is this a poem or a story by Kipling?
> 
> Jim~>
> > The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail
> > (Kipling), also brifely crossed over into a Gorgo
issue to handle the air arm of the latest alien
invasion that Gorgo
> 
> Jim~>
> 
> 
Jim,

I grew up having Kipling's Jungle Books (much more
than just Moguli), and Just So Stories read to me. His
prose can be incredible. Just try saying "the great
gray green greasy Limpopo River, all set about with
Fever Trees" three times fast. That, IIRC, is also
from The Elephant's Child, one of the Just So Stories.
In it the un-trunked pacidyrm with the 'insatible
curiosity' goes to that river to find wisdom, or
something, and to get away from his relatives who
whack him with their bigger noses. The crocodile with
the scalesome, flailsome, tail offers to tell all if
he leans close enough to hear a whisper.

Well the crock with the you-know-what grabs the
Elephant Child's nose to pull him into the river. The
EC would have been lunch had not a friendly Bi-Colored
Rock Python grabbed his other end and thrown a few of
his coils around a Fever Tree. When the crock finally
let go the EC's nose almost reached the ground. He
thanked the Bi-Colored Rock Python and returned home
to use his extended nose to get those pesky relatives
back. "And that, oh Best Beloved, is how the Elephant
got his trunk."

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My goodness, it has just been so long since I've
thought about the Just-So stories!  Thanks for
reminding me.

Cheers.

Jim~>
Of course, I *knew* that...  ;)




--- Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Jim Johnston <jimjohnston2002@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > Is this a poem or a story by Kipling?
> > 
> > Jim~>
> > > The beast with the scalesum, flailsum tail
> > > (Kipling), also brifely crossed over into a
> Gorgo
> issue to handle the air arm of the latest alien
> invasion that Gorgo
> > 
> > Jim~>
> > 
> > 
> Jim,
> 
> I grew up having Kipling's Jungle Books (much more
> than just Moguli), and Just So Stories read to me.
> His
> prose can be incredible. Just try saying "the great
> gray green greasy Limpopo River, all set about with
> Fever Trees" three times fast. That, IIRC, is also
> from The Elephant's Child, one of the Just So
> Stories.
> In it the un-trunked pacidyrm with the 'insatible
> curiosity' goes to that river to find wisdom, or
> something, and to get away from his relatives who
> whack him with their bigger noses. The crocodile
> with
> the scalesome, flailsome, tail offers to tell all if
> he leans close enough to hear a whisper.
> 
> Well the crock with the you-know-what grabs the
> Elephant Child's nose to pull him into the river.
> The
> EC would have been lunch had not a friendly
> Bi-Colored
> Rock Python grabbed his other end and thrown a few
> of
> his coils around a Fever Tree. When the crock
> finally
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I would like to personally thank Michael Ambrose and gang for senting
me a free issue of 
Charlton Spotlight. It was great. From cover to cover. I wish I've
known of you people 
earlier, I would have gotten all of your issues espiecally the #3
issue of Tom Sutton, one of 
the many under rated Artists in comic history. I hope you do an
special issues on Jim 
Aparo really soon. Now there was an artist. To me, his Batman was a
close second to 
Adams.

The only negative comment is, never, I mean never use Yellow on a
cover, unless it is an 
accent color, because people will react "sickly and negative" towards
the item. If I had did 
that cover, I would of went white background having the color cover
"pop," very clean 
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"pop" with the 
lighting bolt "Peter Cannon." Sorry. I have been doing Graphic Design
and Illustration work 
since '74, now I'm showing my age, and sometimes, when I see
something like Charlton 
Spotlight, I want it to look even better, because it deserves it.

Johnny Dynamite back cover was taken from a movie poster staring John
Garfield and 
some of the other close up faces were Garfield's as well. Just
thought you might want to 
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I think I disagree with the use of a yellow colour. I thought it looked great.
 
Respectfully meant, to me, that is like saying that, had the cover had a red background, it could make people violent.
 
Mike, please don't limit your choices of colour on covers. I've finally had a chance to crack Charlton Spotlight # 4, another great issue-!
 
Thanks, pal-!
 
Phil Latter

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I would like to personally thank Michael Ambrose and gang for senting
me a free issue of 
Charlton Spotlight. It was great. From cover to cover. I wish I've
known of you people 
earlier, I would have gotten all of your issues espiecally the #3
issue of Tom Sutton, one of 
the many under rated Artists in comic history. I hope you do an
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close second to 
Adams.

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and Illustration work 
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Johnny Dynamite back cover was taken from a movie poster staring John
Garfield and 
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Awhile ago,

the comic book SHOCKWAVE # 0 (zero) came out, which I ordered/-bought, read and enjoyed.

It held the promise that, in a future issue, SHOCKWAVE # 1, the never published material from THE CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIALS which had never, ever seen print, would finally see print in this issue.

My question, to anyone who can answer it is, did SHOCKWAVE # 1 ever come out-? And if so, how do I order a copy-?

Best,

Phil Latter

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Hi Mike,
 
I can tell you that Shockwave # 0 did indeed come out. I ordered and received later a signed (in silver ink on cover) copy of Shockwave # 0.
 
Here's a cover scan, as well as both sides of a loose flyer included with it, other comics they advertised as, at the time, coming out soon. I have no idea as to whether they did or not.
 
I liked Shockwave # 0 but I still want to know if Shockwave # 1 came out, which, again, was supposed to print, for the first time, the unpublished contents of Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 and/-or # 2.
 
Note that, on the flyer,  they list a website.
 
Best to all,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Charlton Spotlight <charlton@flash.net> wrote: 
I haven't even seen Shockwave #0. But I'd be interested in seeing that
promised unpublished Ty Ford stuff.

Mike Ambrose

Phil Latter wrote:

> Awhile ago,
>
> the comic book SHOCKWAVE # 0 (zero) came out, which I ordered/-bought,
read and enjoyed.
>
> It held the promise that, in a future issue, SHOCKWAVE # 1, the never
published material from THE CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIALS which had never, ever
seen print, would finally see print in this issue.
>
> My question, to anyone who can answer it is, did SHOCKWAVE # 1 ever come
out-? And if so, how do I order a copy-?
>



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Hi:

I'm T.C. Ford, Publisher/Editor of United Comics and the Shockwave 
comic.

I tried to answer this awhile ago, but the system wouldn't let me 
post for some reason that I hope I've resolved (if you're reading 
this, then I have...).

SHOCKWAVE #1 has been delayed to November. It is still coming out.

We went through an unexpected move earlier in the year which threw 
our schedule way out of whack. In addition, we found that we needed 
extra pages beyond the 48 previously announced. Details on everything 
will be forthcoming in October, when we begin accepting pre-orders.

In the meantime, copies of Shockwave #0 (yes, it is out) are 
available for order through this link-
http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?
search_in_description=1&keywords=shockwave&x=7&y=7

And Amazon is selling our graphic novel of The Philistine (the 
character has a cameo in the Kevin Smith film "Chasing Amy") at 34% 
off cover-
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/0974308609/qid=1125561133/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-8309598-6383004?
v=glance&s=books

Of course, you are always welcome to check out our website at 
www.unitedcomicworks.com where updates will soon be posted.
Thanks for your patience....we'll see you in November!

TC

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter 
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>  
> I can tell you that Shockwave # 0 did indeed come out. I ordered 
and received later a signed (in silver ink on cover) copy of 
Shockwave # 0.
>  
> Here's a cover scan, as well as both sides of a loose flyer 
included with it, other comics they advertised as, at the time, 
coming out soon. I have no idea as to whether they did or not.
>  
> I liked Shockwave # 0 but I still want to know if Shockwave # 1 
came out, which, again, was supposed to print, for the first time, 
the unpublished contents of Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 and/-or # 2.
>  
> Note that, on the flyer,  they list a website.
>  
> Best to all,
>  
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
> 
> Charlton Spotlight <charlton@f...> wrote: 
> I haven't even seen Shockwave #0. But I'd be interested in seeing 
that
> promised unpublished Ty Ford stuff.
> 
> Mike Ambrose
> 
> Phil Latter wrote:
> 
> > Awhile ago,
> >
> > the comic book SHOCKWAVE # 0 (zero) came out, which I ordered/-
bought,
> read and enjoyed.
> >
> > It held the promise that, in a future issue, SHOCKWAVE # 1, the 
never
> published material from THE CHARLTON BULLSEYE SPECIALS which had 
never, ever
> seen print, would finally see print in this issue.
> >
> > My question, to anyone who can answer it is, did SHOCKWAVE # 1 
ever come
> out-? And if so, how do I order a copy-?




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 Sam Glanzman artist on HERCULES and co-creator of THE LONELY WAR OF 
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Hi All,
How could I have not known this group existed for 5 years? I think I found it while 'Googling' 
something about Tom Sutton. Anyway, I used to have alot of Charlton Ghost comics and 
eventually, 'Mom' talked me into donating them to the VA Hospital. Now I am buying them 
again in bargain bins anywhere I can find them. Ditko was always my fave and all the 1967 
and on artists. I have not read any Charltons before that year.

There was a mag from New England Comics called 'Tales to Terrible to Tell' dealing with 
precode horror comics. The issue that began the Charlton years never got to me. Anybody 
read that one? I could order it from NEC's website, but I don't want to be dissapointed.

Bill.






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> There was a mag from New England Comics called 'Tales to Terrible to Tell' 
> dealing with 
> precode horror comics. The issue that began the Charlton years never got to me. 
> Anybody 
> read that one? I could order it from NEC's website, but I don't want to be 
> dissapointed. 
> 
> Bill. 

can't remember that specific issue offhand, but afaik i've got the complete run (12 ishes, maybe, the last 2 i think called "terrorology" or something along those lines) of tales too terrible to tell. will look 'em up after work.

dan

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Dan,
though I've no samples of strips up yet,I have listed all strips in the British Alan Class b&w reprint comics CLASS CLASSICS I have.  Some of these include Phantom Traveller strips,text stories,etc.
 
Might add to any interest you have?  Try:~
http://classcomics.4t.com
 
Terry

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> There was a mag from New England Comics called 'Tales to Terrible to Tell' 
> dealing with 
> precode horror comics. The issue that began the Charlton years never got to me. 
> Anybody 
> read that one? I could order it from NEC's website, but I don't want to be 
> dissapointed. 
> 
> Bill. 

can't remember that specific issue offhand, but afaik i've got the complete run (12 ishes, maybe, the last 2 i think called "terrorology" or something along those lines) of tales too terrible to tell. will look 'em up after work.

dan

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Thought you would like to know and see some great Charlton original COVERS!

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Hi All, 
I just received my all 11 issues of the Terrorology mag directly from New England Comics. 
Yes, the final issue, #11 was the Charlton precode horror comics article. It only took 2 days 
UPS too. #4 has a nice early Ditko cover. I am happy for now. Still have to order Charlton 
Spotlight!

Bill.



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I typically try and get most of the Radioactive Man material I 
stumbled across from the Bongo folks. RM is a great source for not 
only vintage radioactive poisoning  , but classic superhero spoofs 
with a gentle hand and a shared affection for old comics.  

The latest offering, called "Simpsons Super Spectacular" offers 
double covers. The "front" cover shows us Homer and Bart engaged in 
some superheroic antics alongside RM and there are two Simpsons 
adventures contained under it. But it's the back cover and the three 
little stories that go with it that really makes this a must-have for 
all us Charlton fanatics. The cover is a 
swipe...er...parody...er...homage of Strange Suspense #75 which 
showcased Captain Atom reprints in the 60's as a tryout of sorts for 
new Captain Atom stories, which of course did develop. There were a 
total of three collections of reprints, often of whimsical and mild 
cold war stuff before new Atom adventures by Ditko and company at 
last appeared officially starting the era of the Charlton Action 
Heroes. Two of those old 50's stories are indirectly referenced here 
as well as a direct spoof-spin on the old Gorgo stories.  

Batton Lash and Michael T. Gilbert are the talents involved, and even 
at five bucks a throw this comic is highly recommended.  




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My poor Pete Cannon-Thunderbolt issues aren't protected in bags so I 
thought I'd take some old 90's comics I bagged for some unknown reason 
and discover that the Thunderbolt comics at least are about a 1/4 of a 
inch larger than the standard comic. I have Fantastic Four that is 
older than the charlton issues and that too is the smaller size.

Were all the Charlton comics this larger size? And how do you store the 
larger comics?

If someone asked this before I'm sorry.



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The answer is: comic bags come in different sizes. You need "Silver Age" (1960's size) bags. Look for them.
 
OH, if you are buying Polyethylene bags (instant acid bath), then you are stark, raving-mad.
 
Polypros, also known as Polypropylene bags, are the way to go. They are about a dollar more for a hundred, and in many stores they are the SAME price. 
 
I'd have my comics in NO bags before I put them in polyethylene bags. 
 
There are also magazine bags, big enough for magazines. Or comic books that are mag sized. 
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter

"K. J. Westbeld" <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:
My poor Pete Cannon-Thunderbolt issues aren't protected in bags so I 
thought I'd take some old 90's comics I bagged for some unknown reason 
and discover that the Thunderbolt comics at least are about a 1/4 of a 
inch larger than the standard comic. I have Fantastic Four that is 
older than the charlton issues and that too is the smaller size.

Were all the Charlton comics this larger size? And how do you store the 
larger comics?

If someone asked this before I'm sorry.




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I'll have to look around for these. My local comic shop doesn't deal
in old comics (silver age) at all. And as a result doesn't have these
bags.

I was surprised that the marvel silver age comic wasn't the same size
though. I'm guess the comics groups snuck the change in. I never
noticed it till now.



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Comics have changed size several times over the years. Most comic shops
should carry Silver Age bags, which is what you need for the old Charltons.
For the record, there are generally three different sizes of bags:
 Golden Age: 7 3/4" x 10 1/2"
Silver Age: 7 1/2" x 10 1/2" (sometimes 7 3/8" but try for 7 1/2")
Garbage Age: 6 7/8" x 10 1/2"
 Excuse me - that last one should have read "Current Comics". Just a typo.
 There are exceptions - most 50s & 60s Dell comics need Golden Age bags. And
I noticed in the late 90s (the last time I considered buying new comics)
that Marvels were actually getting shorter, as well as narrower.
 David
 On 10/4/05, K. J. Westbeld <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> My poor Pete Cannon-Thunderbolt issues aren't protected in bags so I
> thought I'd take some old 90's comics I bagged for some unknown reason
> and discover that the Thunderbolt comics at least are about a 1/4 of a
> inch larger than the standard comic. I have Fantastic Four that is
> older than the charlton issues and that too is the smaller size.
>
> Were all the Charlton comics this larger size? And how do you store the
> larger comics?
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OT:  This is a little off topic for this group, but it is comics related.  Just heard on the news this morning that the fires in California have burned down Wayne Manor, that is, the mansion that was used as Wayne Manor in the 1960s Batman TV show.
 
John Packer

David McLallen <dmclallen@gmail.com> wrote:
Comics have changed size several times over the years. Most comic shops
should carry Silver Age bags, which is what you need for the old Charltons.
For the record, there are generally three different sizes of bags:
Golden Age: 7 3/4" x 10 1/2"
Silver Age: 7 1/2" x 10 1/2" (sometimes 7 3/8" but try for 7 1/2")
Garbage Age: 6 7/8" x 10 1/2"
Excuse me - that last one should have read "Current Comics". Just a typo.
There are exceptions - most 50s & 60s Dell comics need Golden Age bags. And
I noticed in the late 90s (the last time I considered buying new comics)
that Marvels were actually getting shorter, as well as narrower.
David
On 10/4/05, K. J. Westbeld <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My poor Pete Cannon-Thunderbolt issues aren't protected in bags so I
> thought I'd take some old 90's comics I bagged for some unknown reason
> and discover that the Thunderbolt comics at least are about a 1/4 of a
> inch larger than the standard comic. I have Fantastic Four that is
> older than the charlton issues and that too is the smaller size.
>
> Were all the Charlton comics this larger size? And how do you store the
> larger comics?
>
> If someone asked this before I'm sorry.
>
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Hi! Anyone out there into the Charlton comic E-Man?

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That would be me!

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Hi! Anyone out there into the Charlton comic E-Man?
 
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Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air. 
 
Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of those Charlton Comics were a world away!
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I too, liked the Cahrlton issues better.  I thiink they were some of Nicola Cutti's (did I spell that right? I'm doing it from memory), best stuff.  E-man had a definite feel to him.  The humor was good without being overbearing and silly.  Good plots and stories. I'm glad DC did not get a hold of this character.  I think they would have ruined him as they did with most of the other Charlton characters.
 
John Packer 

Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air. 

Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of those Charlton Comics were a world away!
Terry


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-Jess






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The Charlton series was much better than the First series.  The best of the
First series were the last two issues, 24 and 25, both written by Nick Cuti.
 The following issues from Comico and Alpha Productions were good as well. 
What made E-Man work was the teamwork of Nick Cuti and Joe Staton.
I agree with you regarding DC, E-Man would have been ruined.

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From: John Packer
Date: 10/07/05 14:53:53
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man
 
I too, liked the Cahrlton issues better.  I thiink they were some of Nicola
Cutti's (did I spell that right? I'm doing it from memory), best stuff. 
E-man had a definite feel to him.  The humor was good without being
overbearing and silly.  Good plots and stories. I'm glad DC did not get a
hold of this character.  I think they would have ruined him as they did with
most of the other Charlton characters.
 
John Packer
 
Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news
shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than
those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I
recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air.
 
Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of
those Charlton Comics were a world away!
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DC do HAVE their own E-Man......Firestorm! [but whether he's dead now,alive or dead waiting to be brought back to life not half as good!]
Terry

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The Charlton series was much better than the First series.  The best of the
First series were the last two issues, 24 and 25, both written by Nick Cuti.
The following issues from Comico and Alpha Productions were good as well. 
What made E-Man work was the teamwork of Nick Cuti and Joe Staton.
I agree with you regarding DC, E-Man would have been ruined.

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I too, liked the Cahrlton issues better.  I thiink they were some of Nicola
Cutti's (did I spell that right? I'm doing it from memory), best stuff. 
E-man had a definite feel to him.  The humor was good without being
overbearing and silly.  Good plots and stories. I'm glad DC did not get a
hold of this character.  I think they would have ruined him as they did with
most of the other Charlton characters.

John Packer

Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
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recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air.

Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of
those Charlton Comics were a world away!
Terry


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Hi Terry! I just thought E-man & Nova were kind of cute and interesting without being complicated or over done like DC or Marvel.
Did you enjoy Rog 2000?
 
-Jess

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Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air. 

Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of those Charlton Comics were a world away!
Terry


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Hi John! I really loved E-man. I looked through First but did not care for it.
What do you think of Rog 2000? or Doomsday +1?
 
-Jess

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
I too, liked the Cahrlton issues better.  I thiink they were some of Nicola Cutti's (did I spell that right? I'm doing it from memory), best stuff.  E-man had a definite feel to him.  The humor was good without being overbearing and silly.  Good plots and stories. I'm glad DC did not get a hold of this character.  I think they would have ruined him as they did with most of the other Charlton characters.

John Packer 

Terry Hooper <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air. 

Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of those Charlton Comics were a world away!
Terry


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-Jess






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Jessica,
Quite right.  Possibly why they were so entertaining!  Rog 2000 was a hoot and I'd love to see Byrne do more of this character!  Rog 2000 always reminds me of a kind uncle version of Ultron!
Terry

"Jessica H." <quickymartgodess@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Terry! I just thought E-man & Nova were kind of cute and interesting without being complicated or over done like DC or Marvel.
Did you enjoy Rog 2000?

-Jess

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Hi,Jessica,
Yes,I found the E-Man comics when they first appeared in dark and dingy news shops. For some reason the Charlton issues,in my opinion,are better than those from First!  There was something about the printing and colour -I recall a sort of purplish tint in one issue for Egyptian skin!
When they came out,these issues were like a breath of fresh air. 

Don't get me wrong -I LIKE the First comics issues but the feel and smell of those Charlton Comics were a world away!
Terry


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Joe is a nice guy.  My wife and I got to meet him a couple of years ago at a
comic convention and this year, after the same convention we got to have
dinner with him and Marv Wolfman.  That was a blast listening to these two
legends talk about comics!

Rome

BTW, please find that sketch! 
 
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Me, too. Had the pleasure of meeting Joe Staon about 15 years ago. He
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Jessica,
Click on the link below and you have a choice of sites and info on Rog 2000.
Terry
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-34,GGLD:en&q=Rog+2000+comic

Jessica Hamel <quickymartgodess@yahoo.com> wrote:
Great! Do you know of any websites for Rog 2000?

-Jess

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Unfortunately no.  The only place where he is mentioned is my website, and
maybe one other, but they really don't have any more information. 
Twotomorrows.com had and interview with John Byrne, if memory serves me
correctly and he went into a little bit of background on his creation of Rog
2000.

Rome 
 
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Great! Do you know of any websites for Rog 2000?
 
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Hi Charlton Fans! Some of you may know me I'm new to all the e-groups for Charlton Comics.
I love E-Man from Charlton Comics and also enjoy Doomsday +1 and Rog 2000 all of which came out years before I was born. Would love to chat with any E-Man fans out there and also there is a local paranormal web site I'm involved in that I would like to invite all of you to tour.
It is called Gardner After Midnight and it is at www.Geocities.Com/GardnerAfterMidnight .
 
Would love to hear from anyone out there!


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The Mercury Man must rate as both Charlton Comics most powerful AND=20
most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering he=20
made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.

Check out the first of those two stories, he's debut from Space=20
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/strange_visitors

and with any luck MM's 2nd Adventure will also be showing up before to=20
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-Nigel




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Hi Phabox! Thanks for the link, I just joined the club!
 
-Jess

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most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering he 
made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.

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Hi Everyone!
I know that Rog 2000 appeared in E-Man a couple of times including once when a witch made him human does anyone out there know where else he appeared?
 


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Beyond his E-Man series, Rog-2000 had some few fanzine appearances=20
where he began. Pacific Comics reprinted the Rog-2000 stuff way back=20
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> I know that Rog 2000 appeared in E-Man a couple of times 
> including once when a witch made him human does anyone 
> out there know where else he appeared?
 
I know there was a (b&w?) reprint trade paperback that collected all the various stories.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...> wrote:
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> The Mercury Man must rate as both Charlton Comics most powerful AND=20
> most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering=20
he=20
> made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.
>=20
> Check out the first of those two stories, he's debut from Space=20
> Adventures_044 December 1961 now on view at -
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I think I had posting something about Mercury Man on this list (or=20
maybe one of the other Charlton YG).

The first story was also reprinted in on of AC's Men of Mystery=20
titles.  I think they also reprinted the second one.  I think in my=20
emails with Robin Snyder, I think he say the rights to the character=20
went to the creators of it.

MM I believe poped up shortly after Charlton stopped doing the=20
Captain Atom stories.  Wonder why?

Michael Brown




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I Would be interested to know who you believe MM creators to be, Joe Gill wrote much of Charltons output at this time and I think I recognize the artist as 'Rocke' the late mystery artist who's name I would never be able to spell who out a referance !

Would yo agree with this of do you have other information ?
 
-Nigel

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...> wrote:
>
> The Mercury Man must rate as both Charlton Comics most powerful AND 
> most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering 
he 
> made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.
> 
> Check out the first of those two stories, he's debut from Space 
> Adventures_044 December 1961 now on view at -
> 

I think I had posting something about Mercury Man on this list (or 
maybe one of the other Charlton YG).

The first story was also reprinted in on of AC's Men of Mystery 
titles.  I think they also reprinted the second one.  I think in my 
emails with Robin Snyder, I think he say the rights to the character 
went to the creators of it.

MM I believe poped up shortly after Charlton stopped doing the 
Captain Atom stories.  Wonder why?

Michael Brown





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Nigel,
 
Do you mean Rochne-? I think there's an 'n' in it. If that is who you mean...
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter

nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:
I Would be interested to know who you believe MM creators to be, Joe Gill wrote much of Charltons output at this time and I think I recognize the artist as 'Rocke' the late mystery artist who's name I would never be able to spell who out a referance !

Would yo agree with this of do you have other information ?

-Nigel

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...> wrote:
>
> The Mercury Man must rate as both Charlton Comics most powerful AND 
> most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering 
he 
> made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.
> 
> Check out the first of those two stories, he's debut from Space 
> Adventures_044 December 1961 now on view at -
> 

I think I had posting something about Mercury Man on this list (or 
maybe one of the other Charlton YG).

The first story was also reprinted in on of AC's Men of Mystery 
titles.  I think they also reprinted the second one.  I think in my 
emails with Robin Snyder, I think he say the rights to the character 
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MM I believe poped up shortly after Charlton stopped doing the 
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The Artist that I was thinking of who MAY have been the co-creator of Mercury Man was Rocco Mastroserio, now deceased ( Imagine having to get a name like THAT on a headstone ! )
 
-Nigel

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Nigel,

Do you mean Rochne-? I think there's an 'n' in it. If that is who you mean...

Best,

Phil Latter

nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:
I Would be interested to know who you believe MM creators to be, Joe Gill wrote much of Charltons output at this time and I think I recognize the artist as 'Rocke' the late mystery artist who's name I would never be able to spell who out a referance !

Would yo agree with this of do you have other information ?

-Nigel

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "phabox" <phabox@y...> wrote:
>
> The Mercury Man must rate as both Charlton Comics most powerful AND 
> most Forgotten 'Super' Character, not surprising really concidering 
he 
> made just the TWO appearances WAY back in the early 60's.
> 
> Check out the first of those two stories, he's debut from Space 
> Adventures_044 December 1961 now on view at -
> 

I think I had posting something about Mercury Man on this list (or 
maybe one of the other Charlton YG).

The first story was also reprinted in on of AC's Men of Mystery 
titles.  I think they also reprinted the second one.  I think in my 
emails with Robin Snyder, I think he say the rights to the character 
went to the creators of it.

MM I believe poped up shortly after Charlton stopped doing the 
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In a message dated 10/28/2005 4:29:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
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>The Artist that I was thinking of who MAY have  been the co-creator of 
Mercury
 >Man was Rocco Mastroserio, now deceased 
 

Rocke Mastroserio is the name he signed --  well, he usually  singed Rocke 
M., sometimes the longer name.

steven rowe
 

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The only signatures for Rocco "Rocke" Mastroserio I've ever seen were: 
Rocke, Mastroserio and RM. All the same guy, though! And yes, he and Joe 
Gill created the character of Mercury Man. Not much of a character, but 
still...

And it was me who convinced AC's Bill Black to reprint the two stories that 
featured MM. Wasn't hard, though!
Best,
Ramon

>In a message dated 10/28/2005 4:29:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>phabox@yahoo.com writes:
> >The Artist that I was thinking of who MAY have  been the co-creator of
>Mercury
>  >Man was Rocco Mastroserio, now deceased
>
>
>Rocke Mastroserio is the name he signed --  well, he usually  singed Rocke
>M., sometimes the longer name.
>
>steven rowe



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, nigel cantwell <phabox@y...>=20
wrote:
>
> I Would be interested to know who you believe MM creators to be,=20
Joe Gill wrote much of Charltons output at this time and I think I=20
recognize the artist as 'Rocke' the late mystery artist who's name I=20
would never be able to spell who out a referance !
>=20
> Would yo agree with this of do you have other information ?
>=20=20

As others have noted, the artist for the first MM story is=20
Rocco "Rocke" Mastroserio.  AFAIK, the writer for both stories was=20
Joe Gill.  The artist on the second story was someone else.

The first story was reprinted in AC's Men of Mystery #32.  No idea=20
what issue they reprinted the second story.

As I indicated in my email, I had emailed with Robin Snyder many=20
years back about the fate of all the Charlton materials.  I do recall=20
he stated that the rights to Mercury Man did NOT go to Roger=20
Broughton, but to others.  I do NOT recall if those others were=20
named, and I had assumed he turned the rights over the the characters=20
creator(s).  I suggest to ask Synder.

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Hi everybody!

Apologies for any cross-posting!

If you're a bit like me, you like Charlton comics. If you collect a fair 
number or are even a completist, you will have stacks. And unfortunately, 
that sometimes involves getting duplicates. Sometimes even tons of 
duplicates. Fortunately, I have some collecting buddies who take most off my 
hands again. However, some just don't seem to want to leave my comic den, so 
it's time to kick them out. Below is a list of Charltons I want to get rid 
of. Sell if I have to, trade for other Charltons if I can.

ACTION HEROES
coverless Blue Beetle
Phantom #59 (20c)

ADVENTURE
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #3 (50c)
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #4 (50c)
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #9 (50c)
Primus #7 (20c)
Valley of the Dinosaurs #5 (25c)

HORROR/MYSTERY
Ghostly Tales #133 (35c)
Ghostly Tales #157 (60c)
Ghostly Tales #163 (60c)
Ghostly Tales #165 (60c)
Scary Tales #18 (corner of cover torn off)

HUMOR
Atomic Mouse #11 (75c)
Beetle Bailey #106 (25c)
Blondie #206 (20c)
Blondie #211 (25c)
Blondie #214 (25c)
Flintstones #26 (20c)
Flintstones #28 (20c)
Hi & Lois #7 (15c)
Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #27 (25c)
Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #28 (25c)
Popeye #127 (25c)
Popeye #127 (25c)
Punchy & Black Crow #11 (75c)
Sarge Snorkel #1 (20c)
Sarge Snorkel #13 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Top Cat #3 (15c)

ROMANCE
For Lovers Only #75 (25c)
For Lovers Only #77 (25c)
For Lovers Only #86 (30c)
Just Married #97 (20c)
Love & Romance #19 (25c)
Love & Romance #24 (25c)
Love Diary #95 (25c)
My Only Love #2 (25c)
Romantic Story #70 (12c) I have several copies of this one!
Romantic Story #101 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Secret Romance #34 (25c)
Secrets of Young Brides #4 (25c)
Teen Confessions #63 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Teen Confession #96 (30c)
coverless Time For Love #20
Time For Love #44 (25c)

TEEN HUMOR
Freddy #12 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)

WAR
Attack #9 (20c)
Fightin' Army #49 (12c)
Fightin' Army #117 (25c)

WESTERN
Cheyenne Kid #57 (part of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Frontier Scout Dan'l Boone #14  (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)


All copies are a guaranteed GD to VG or better unless indicated, but 
remember that these are my second (and sometimes even third or fourth) 
choice, so don't expect comics you can slab!

So, what am I looking for? Basically, ALL Charlton comics that I currently 
don't own, so send me your list! I am more than happy to trade 1-on-1 or 
100-to-1 or whatever for any Charltons I am still looking for.

If you haven't got duplicates, let me know which comics you are looking for 
and I'll let you have them for $1 each, UNLESS someone else has trade for 
them! Remember, first come, first serve.

Let's help get each other's collections more complete!

Best,
Ramon



Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charltonspotlight.com

Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl



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Ramon,
 
If you don't mind me asking, what grade, roughly, is your Charlton Phantom # 59 in-? I am missing that one. No, I'm not a mint freak....
 
Coverless Blue Beetle-? What issue #-? If unknown, golden age, 1950's-?
 
Would you mind very much (please) checking the few war and westerns on the list below of yours (there are only a few) and see if 'Owen McCarron' is listed as the artist or inker on any of them-? I collect ANYTHING by him. He was Canadian like me, lived his whole life in Halifax, where I am, was a friend of mine, and he passed away within the last several months.
 
I know for a fact he did various war comics for Charlton, including Fightin' Navy and Fightin' Army, and (possibly some westerns as well.) 
 
Oh, also always looking for PAM (Pete Morisi) are too, he did a lot of westerns for Charlton.
 
Please and thanks.
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi everybody!

Apologies for any cross-posting!

If you're a bit like me, you like Charlton comics. If you collect a fair 
number or are even a completist, you will have stacks. And unfortunately, 
that sometimes involves getting duplicates. Sometimes even tons of 
duplicates. Fortunately, I have some collecting buddies who take most off my 
hands again. However, some just don't seem to want to leave my comic den, so 
it's time to kick them out. Below is a list of Charltons I want to get rid 
of. Sell if I have to, trade for other Charltons if I can.

ACTION HEROES
coverless Blue Beetle
Phantom #59 (20c)

ADVENTURE
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #3 (50c)
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #4 (50c)
Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #9 (50c)
Primus #7 (20c)
Valley of the Dinosaurs #5 (25c)

HORROR/MYSTERY
Ghostly Tales #133 (35c)
Ghostly Tales #157 (60c)
Ghostly Tales #163 (60c)
Ghostly Tales #165 (60c)
Scary Tales #18 (corner of cover torn off)

HUMOR
Atomic Mouse #11 (75c)
Beetle Bailey #106 (25c)
Blondie #206 (20c)
Blondie #211 (25c)
Blondie #214 (25c)
Flintstones #26 (20c)
Flintstones #28 (20c)
Hi & Lois #7 (15c)
Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #27 (25c)
Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #28 (25c)
Popeye #127 (25c)
Popeye #127 (25c)
Punchy & Black Crow #11 (75c)
Sarge Snorkel #1 (20c)
Sarge Snorkel #13 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Top Cat #3 (15c)

ROMANCE
For Lovers Only #75 (25c)
For Lovers Only #77 (25c)
For Lovers Only #86 (30c)
Just Married #97 (20c)
Love & Romance #19 (25c)
Love & Romance #24 (25c)
Love Diary #95 (25c)
My Only Love #2 (25c)
Romantic Story #70 (12c) I have several copies of this one!
Romantic Story #101 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Secret Romance #34 (25c)
Secrets of Young Brides #4 (25c)
Teen Confessions #63 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Teen Confession #96 (30c)
coverless Time For Love #20
Time For Love #44 (25c)

TEEN HUMOR
Freddy #12 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)

WAR
Attack #9 (20c)
Fightin' Army #49 (12c)
Fightin' Army #117 (25c)

WESTERN
Cheyenne Kid #57 (part of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
Frontier Scout Dan'l Boone #14  (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)


All copies are a guaranteed GD to VG or better unless indicated, but 
remember that these are my second (and sometimes even third or fourth) 
choice, so don't expect comics you can slab!

So, what am I looking for? Basically, ALL Charlton comics that I currently 
don't own, so send me your list! I am more than happy to trade 1-on-1 or 
100-to-1 or whatever for any Charltons I am still looking for.

If you haven't got duplicates, let me know which comics you are looking for 
and I'll let you have them for $1 each, UNLESS someone else has trade for 
them! Remember, first come, first serve.

Let's help get each other's collections more complete!

Best,
Ramon



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contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
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Hello Phil,
The Phantom is roughly GD to VG.

The Blue Beetle is one of those numbered in the 50s, from the 1960s. You 
know, Fraccio & Tallarico art.

There is no signed McCarron art in those issues, since I index all my 
Charltons and these are all duplicates.

And there is plenty of PAM work in there. It would take too much time to 
look through them all, so I refer you to the Morisi Checklist on 
http://www.charltonspotlight.com.

Shall I keep the Phantom aside for you?

Best,
Ramon

>From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
>Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] duplicate Charlton comics offered for TRADE
>Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:50:39 -0500 (EST)
>
>Ramon,
>
>If you don't mind me asking, what grade, roughly, is your Charlton Phantom 
># 59 in-? I am missing that one. No, I'm not a mint freak....
>
>Coverless Blue Beetle-? What issue #-? If unknown, golden age, 1950's-?
>
>Would you mind very much (please) checking the few war and westerns on the 
>list below of yours (there are only a few) and see if 'Owen McCarron' is 
>listed as the artist or inker on any of them-? I collect ANYTHING by him. 
>He was Canadian like me, lived his whole life in Halifax, where I am, was a 
>friend of mine, and he passed away within the last several months.
>
>I know for a fact he did various war comics for Charlton, including 
>Fightin' Navy and Fightin' Army, and (possibly some westerns as well.)
>
>Oh, also always looking for PAM (Pete Morisi) are too, he did a lot of 
>westerns for Charlton.
>
>Please and thanks.
>
>Best,
>
>Phil Latter
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>Canada
>
>Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi everybody!
>
>Apologies for any cross-posting!
>
>If you're a bit like me, you like Charlton comics. If you collect a fair
>number or are even a completist, you will have stacks. And unfortunately,
>that sometimes involves getting duplicates. Sometimes even tons of
>duplicates. Fortunately, I have some collecting buddies who take most off 
>my
>hands again. However, some just don't seem to want to leave my comic den, 
>so
>it's time to kick them out. Below is a list of Charltons I want to get rid
>of. Sell if I have to, trade for other Charltons if I can.
>
>ACTION HEROES
>coverless Blue Beetle
>Phantom #59 (20c)
>
>ADVENTURE
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #3 (50c)
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #4 (50c)
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #9 (50c)
>Primus #7 (20c)
>Valley of the Dinosaurs #5 (25c)
>
>HORROR/MYSTERY
>Ghostly Tales #133 (35c)
>Ghostly Tales #157 (60c)
>Ghostly Tales #163 (60c)
>Ghostly Tales #165 (60c)
>Scary Tales #18 (corner of cover torn off)
>
>HUMOR
>Atomic Mouse #11 (75c)
>Beetle Bailey #106 (25c)
>Blondie #206 (20c)
>Blondie #211 (25c)
>Blondie #214 (25c)
>Flintstones #26 (20c)
>Flintstones #28 (20c)
>Hi & Lois #7 (15c)
>Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #27 (25c)
>Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #28 (25c)
>Popeye #127 (25c)
>Popeye #127 (25c)
>Punchy & Black Crow #11 (75c)
>Sarge Snorkel #1 (20c)
>Sarge Snorkel #13 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Top Cat #3 (15c)
>
>ROMANCE
>For Lovers Only #75 (25c)
>For Lovers Only #77 (25c)
>For Lovers Only #86 (30c)
>Just Married #97 (20c)
>Love & Romance #19 (25c)
>Love & Romance #24 (25c)
>Love Diary #95 (25c)
>My Only Love #2 (25c)
>Romantic Story #70 (12c) I have several copies of this one!
>Romantic Story #101 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Secret Romance #34 (25c)
>Secrets of Young Brides #4 (25c)
>Teen Confessions #63 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Teen Confession #96 (30c)
>coverless Time For Love #20
>Time For Love #44 (25c)
>
>TEEN HUMOR
>Freddy #12 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>
>WAR
>Attack #9 (20c)
>Fightin' Army #49 (12c)
>Fightin' Army #117 (25c)
>
>WESTERN
>Cheyenne Kid #57 (part of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Frontier Scout Dan'l Boone #14  (top of cover torn off -> reading copy 
>only)
>
>
>All copies are a guaranteed GD to VG or better unless indicated, but
>remember that these are my second (and sometimes even third or fourth)
>choice, so don't expect comics you can slab!
>
>So, what am I looking for? Basically, ALL Charlton comics that I currently
>don't own, so send me your list! I am more than happy to trade 1-on-1 or
>100-to-1 or whatever for any Charltons I am still looking for.
>
>If you haven't got duplicates, let me know which comics you are looking for
>and I'll let you have them for $1 each, UNLESS someone else has trade for
>them! Remember, first come, first serve.
>
>Let's help get each other's collections more complete!
>
>Best,
>Ramon
>
>
>
>Ramon Schenk,
>contributing editor
>CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
>http://www.charltonspotlight.com
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Hello Will,
The origin story was reprinted in Men of Mystery #32; don't know if the 
second (and final!) story has seen print yet!
Best,
Ramon

> >   From: "Ramon Schenk" <ramonschenk@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Mercury Man Drops By.
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Ramon,
 
Yes, please keep the Phantom # 59 aside for me.
 
I have some Charlton Phantom duplicates. Need any-?
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello Phil,
The Phantom is roughly GD to VG.

The Blue Beetle is one of those numbered in the 50s, from the 1960s. You 
know, Fraccio & Tallarico art.

There is no signed McCarron art in those issues, since I index all my 
Charltons and these are all duplicates.

And there is plenty of PAM work in there. It would take too much time to 
look through them all, so I refer you to the Morisi Checklist on 
http://www.charltonspotlight.com.

Shall I keep the Phantom aside for you?

Best,
Ramon

>From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
>Reply-To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] duplicate Charlton comics offered for TRADE
>Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:50:39 -0500 (EST)
>
>Ramon,
>
>If you don't mind me asking, what grade, roughly, is your Charlton Phantom 
># 59 in-? I am missing that one. No, I'm not a mint freak....
>
>Coverless Blue Beetle-? What issue #-? If unknown, golden age, 1950's-?
>
>Would you mind very much (please) checking the few war and westerns on the 
>list below of yours (there are only a few) and see if 'Owen McCarron' is 
>listed as the artist or inker on any of them-? I collect ANYTHING by him. 
>He was Canadian like me, lived his whole life in Halifax, where I am, was a 
>friend of mine, and he passed away within the last several months.
>
>I know for a fact he did various war comics for Charlton, including 
>Fightin' Navy and Fightin' Army, and (possibly some westerns as well.)
>
>Oh, also always looking for PAM (Pete Morisi) are too, he did a lot of 
>westerns for Charlton.
>
>Please and thanks.
>
>Best,
>
>Phil Latter
>Halifax, Nova Scotia
>Canada
>
>Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi everybody!
>
>Apologies for any cross-posting!
>
>If you're a bit like me, you like Charlton comics. If you collect a fair
>number or are even a completist, you will have stacks. And unfortunately,
>that sometimes involves getting duplicates. Sometimes even tons of
>duplicates. Fortunately, I have some collecting buddies who take most off 
>my
>hands again. However, some just don't seem to want to leave my comic den, 
>so
>it's time to kick them out. Below is a list of Charltons I want to get rid
>of. Sell if I have to, trade for other Charltons if I can.
>
>ACTION HEROES
>coverless Blue Beetle
>Phantom #59 (20c)
>
>ADVENTURE
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #3 (50c)
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #4 (50c)
>Charlton Classics (repr. Hercules) #9 (50c)
>Primus #7 (20c)
>Valley of the Dinosaurs #5 (25c)
>
>HORROR/MYSTERY
>Ghostly Tales #133 (35c)
>Ghostly Tales #157 (60c)
>Ghostly Tales #163 (60c)
>Ghostly Tales #165 (60c)
>Scary Tales #18 (corner of cover torn off)
>
>HUMOR
>Atomic Mouse #11 (75c)
>Beetle Bailey #106 (25c)
>Blondie #206 (20c)
>Blondie #211 (25c)
>Blondie #214 (25c)
>Flintstones #26 (20c)
>Flintstones #28 (20c)
>Hi & Lois #7 (15c)
>Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #27 (25c)
>Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm #28 (25c)
>Popeye #127 (25c)
>Popeye #127 (25c)
>Punchy & Black Crow #11 (75c)
>Sarge Snorkel #1 (20c)
>Sarge Snorkel #13 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Top Cat #3 (15c)
>
>ROMANCE
>For Lovers Only #75 (25c)
>For Lovers Only #77 (25c)
>For Lovers Only #86 (30c)
>Just Married #97 (20c)
>Love & Romance #19 (25c)
>Love & Romance #24 (25c)
>Love Diary #95 (25c)
>My Only Love #2 (25c)
>Romantic Story #70 (12c) I have several copies of this one!
>Romantic Story #101 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Secret Romance #34 (25c)
>Secrets of Young Brides #4 (25c)
>Teen Confessions #63 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Teen Confession #96 (30c)
>coverless Time For Love #20
>Time For Love #44 (25c)
>
>TEEN HUMOR
>Freddy #12 (top of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>
>WAR
>Attack #9 (20c)
>Fightin' Army #49 (12c)
>Fightin' Army #117 (25c)
>
>WESTERN
>Cheyenne Kid #57 (part of cover torn off -> reading copy only)
>Frontier Scout Dan'l Boone #14  (top of cover torn off -> reading copy 
>only)
>
>
>All copies are a guaranteed GD to VG or better unless indicated, but
>remember that these are my second (and sometimes even third or fourth)
>choice, so don't expect comics you can slab!
>
>So, what am I looking for? Basically, ALL Charlton comics that I currently
>don't own, so send me your list! I am more than happy to trade 1-on-1 or
>100-to-1 or whatever for any Charltons I am still looking for.
>
>If you haven't got duplicates, let me know which comics you are looking for
>and I'll let you have them for $1 each, UNLESS someone else has trade for
>them! Remember, first come, first serve.
>
>Let's help get each other's collections more complete!
>
>Best,
>Ramon
>
>
>
>Ramon Schenk,
>contributing editor
>CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
>http://www.charltonspotlight.com
>
>Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
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Hi.
I've been chasing up this copyright question re. old Charlton=20
characters for a long time now.  I've tried contacting John Broughton=20
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Strips were put in sealed envelopes and sold/auctioned off. The=20
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If anyone knows better please let me know!
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His PR Publications (Good Guys and Gals of the Gold Age, etc.) went off line about a year or two ago.  Last I heard he was very sick.  I've emailed Dave Wiltshire sometime ago inquiring about PR Pubs return, but I can't recall if I ever heard back from him.
 
John Packer   

"Terry Hooper [aka:T. Hooper-Scharf" <hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi.
I've been chasing up this copyright question re. old Charlton 
characters for a long time now.  I've tried contacting John Broughton 
but with no success.
Whenever I track someone down or an article [check issues 9 and 12 of 
Comic Book Artist which covered Charlton]they/it seems to say the same 
thing.
Strips were put in sealed envelopes and sold/auctioned off. The 
copyright went to REPRODUCE these.  I cannot find a single person 
saying the CHARACTERS copyright was sold.  It may explain why only 
reprints have ever appeared:ONLY reproduction rights were sold.  This 
seems to tie in with Charlton's somewhat odd business practices.
The same APPEARS to be true for ACG;reproduction copyright not 
character copyright.
Like I've said,I have been trying to track down John Broughton for a 
few years but I get old e-mail addresses.
If anyone knows better please let me know!
Terry





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You mean Roger Broughton, he's the guy who bought most of the Charlton 
material and the ACG material.  He almost never answered his email, even when he was 
publishing comics -- I hear he used to do shows and of course, he used to 
answer his phone.  
   Under US law (and note I am NOT a copyright attorney) there is no 
copyright to a character.  So, naturally you wont see anyone commenting on character 
copyright -- in the USA, there is none.  That would fall under trademark law, 
and
 there is however copyright to derivative material (i.e.,' sequels - thus 
characters) but this would be from the  original copyright (ie: first 
appearance). Thus, in the USA, if you own the copyright -- you own the character (unless 
trademark was registered and therefore an issue. However, the US trademark 
office is online and you can check the status of trademarks).
   
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In a message dated 10/31/2005 4:41:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com writes:
<<I've been chasing up this copyright question re. old Charlton 
characters for a long time now.  I've tried contacting John Broughton 
but with no success.
Whenever I track someone down or an article [check issues 9 and 12 of 
Comic Book Artist which covered Charlton]they/it seems to say the same 
thing.
Strips were put in sealed envelopes and sold/auctioned off. The 
copyright went to REPRODUCE these.  I cannot find a single person 
saying the CHARACTERS copyright was sold.  It may explain why only 
reprints have ever appeared:ONLY reproduction rights were sold.  This 
seems to tie in with Charlton's somewhat odd business practices.
The same APPEARS to be true for ACG;reproduction copyright not 
character copyright.
Like I've said,I have been trying to track down John Broughton for a 
few years but I get old e-mail addresses.
If anyone knows better please let me know!>>
Terry

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Ive been curious as to this. As much as most dislike
DC owning the rightd to many of the Charlton
characters Id love to see a Captain Atom, Question, or
Blue Beetle Showcase presents from the Charlton run.


	
		
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In a message dated 10/31/2005 10:18:07 PM  Eastern Standard Time, 
shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
<<Ive been  curious as to this. As much as most dislike
DC owning the rightd to many of  the Charlton
characters Id love to see a Captain Atom, Question, or
Blue  Beetle Showcase presents from the Charlton run.>>

from what Im told  we are very unlikely to see the Blue Beetle from DC 
anymore.

sr  


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Good.  Maybe DC an sell off those Charlton characters to someone who really loves them and will put out some books worth reading.  When you tend to have a pantheon of charatcers, you treat thenm totally as business.  There needs to be someone who has genuine concern and love for the charatcers, I think, to make tme work well.
 
John Packer

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shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
<<Ive been  curious as to this. As much as most dislike
DC owning the rightd to many of  the Charlton
characters Id love to see a Captain Atom, Question, or
Blue  Beetle Showcase presents from the Charlton run.>>

from what Im told  we are very unlikely to see the Blue Beetle from DC 
anymore.

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In cleaning up my mail archive, I found the email from Robin Snyder=20
regarding ownership of charlton materials:

"The ownership of the Charlton properties is split among a dozen or=20
more men:
Roger Broughton own the bulk of the material. I've forgotten who picked=20
up ROG-2000. Ditto for Mercury Man, Doomsday + 1, etc. First Kiss went=20
to John Lustig. Bill Black picked up assorted stories by Al Williamson=20
and John Severin. I sold several dozen stories to Ditko (Killjoy among=20
them) and picked up a hundred or so for myself. I sold something to=20
Steve Sibra. And something else to Mike Catron."

So I assumed wrong on Mercury Man, other then it didn't go to Broughton.

Michael Brown





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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Brown"=20
<emb021@m...> wrote:
>
> In cleaning up my mail archive, I found the email from Robin Snyder=20
> regarding ownership of charlton materials:
>=20
> "The ownership of the Charlton properties is split among a dozen or=20
> more men:
> Roger Broughton own the bulk of the material. I've forgotten who=20
picked=20
> up ROG-2000. Ditto for Mercury Man, Doomsday + 1, etc. First Kiss=20
went=20
> to John Lustig. Bill Black picked up assorted stories by Al=20
Williamson=20
> and John Severin. I sold several dozen stories to Ditko (Killjoy=20
among=20
> them) and picked up a hundred or so for myself. I sold something to=20
> Steve Sibra. And something else to Mike Catron."
>=20
> So I assumed wrong on Mercury Man, other then it didn't go to=20
Broughton.
>=20
> Michael Brown
>

Roger claimed (when I last spoke to him several years ago) ownership=20
of Rog-2000 and Doomsday + 1. I don't know about Mercury Man. Mike=20
Catron owns a western character named Wander. Max Allan Collins=20
bought Johnny Dynamite.

As to Blue Beetle,=20

<<from what I'm told we are very unlikely to see the Blue Beetle from=20
DC anymore.
- sr>>

rumors are that a NEW Blue Beetle title may emerge from DC, spinning=20
out of the current "Infinte Crisis". And that it may be a FEMALE=20
character. Remember that Blue Beetle's scarab landed somewhere in the=20
midwest atb the end of the Day Of Vengeance mini series from DC? The=20
scarab plays a role in the Infinite Crisis storyline. Wait and see...

T.C. Ford
United Comics
unitedcomicworks.com





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Hi,Michael.
I'll have to re-read that Comic Book Artist section because it reads that strips were sold in lots rather than actual characters.  In other words,that these people had the rights to reprint which they had purchased.
I've had more than a few e-mails telling me that Broughton has passed away. Sad if true. A couple mailers tell me John Byrne would certainly argue over anyone but he owning Rog-2000. I know Fantagraphic Books reprinted DOOMSDAY+1 though I have never come across it in a shop or at a dealers table.
Pity really.
Terry

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
In cleaning up my mail archive, I found the email from Robin Snyder 
regarding ownership of charlton materials:

"The ownership of the Charlton properties is split among a dozen or 
more men:
Roger Broughton own the bulk of the material. I've forgotten who picked 
up ROG-2000. Ditto for Mercury Man, Doomsday + 1, etc. First Kiss went 
to John Lustig. Bill Black picked up assorted stories by Al Williamson 
and John Severin. I sold several dozen stories to Ditko (Killjoy among 
them) and picked up a hundred or so for myself. I sold something to 
Steve Sibra. And something else to Mike Catron."

So I assumed wrong on Mercury Man, other then it didn't go to Broughton.

Michael Brown






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In a message dated 11/1/2005 6:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hoopercomicsuk@yahoo.com writes:
. >I know Fantagraphic Books reprinted DOOMSDAY+1 >though I have never come 
>across it in a shop or at a dealers table.

 I recall that Fantagraphic Books reprinted this series when Charlton was 
still around.  They didnt own it, they liscensed it.    

steven rowe

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John,
 
You and I are completely in agreement there. The fact that DC Comics has little to no interest in these characters seems obvious, given the lack of quality comics they have produced over the years, WITH those characters. 
 
They should sell them to a company that has the interest, the drive, and the talent to make these characters exciting again.
 
In my view, that hasn't been the case since.....well, since Charlton Comics-!
 
What would I give my right arm to see-?
 
Above all, two words: Judomaster-!
He's my favourite. Above all the others.
 
Best,
 
Phil Latter

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Good.  Maybe DC an sell off those Charlton characters to someone who really loves them and will put out some books worth reading.  When you tend to have a pantheon of charatcers, you treat thenm totally as business.  There needs to be someone who has genuine concern and love for the charatcers, I think, to make tme work well.

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> 
> from what Im told  we are very unlikely to see the
> Blue Beetle from DC 
> anymore.
> 


Have their rights and license just for the Beetle
changed? If not then they could still release a
showcase format of the old comics (provided they are
allowed too). I know they're going to create some new
Blue Beetle and I'm dreaded to see what he/she/it will be.


		
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I submitted a Judomaster proposal to Charlton shortly before they went kaput.  It was bringing him up to date (then modern times, not now) and having his son take over the Judomaster mantel.  They liked the idea and told me they would run the stories, if I found an artist to draw them, because they had no one on staff.  It never panned out and they went out of business shortly thereafter.
 
John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
John,

You and I are completely in agreement there. The fact that DC Comics has little to no interest in these characters seems obvious, given the lack of quality comics they have produced over the years, WITH those characters. 

They should sell them to a company that has the interest, the drive, and the talent to make these characters exciting again.

In my view, that hasn't been the case since.....well, since Charlton Comics-!

What would I give my right arm to see-?

Above all, two words: Judomaster-!
He's my favourite. Above all the others.

Best,

Phil Latter

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Good.  Maybe DC an sell off those Charlton characters to someone who really loves them and will put out some books worth reading.  When you tend to have a pantheon of charatcers, you treat thenm totally as business.  There needs to be someone who has genuine concern and love for the charatcers, I think, to make tme work well.

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In a message dated 11/2/2005 6:06:51 AM Eastern  Standard Time, 
shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
>> from what Im  told  we are very unlikely to see the
>> Blue Beetle from DC  
>> anymore.
> >

>Have their rights and license just  for the Beetle
>changed?  

What I was told, by a former DC editor - is that the legal department at  
Time-Warner doesnt think the paper trail of ownership for Blue Beetle  is  good 
enough - and could lead to a lawsuit not worth the cost of  continuing,  
Another source indicates the threat is from the Chaplin-Iger  company.   Basicaly, 
the question is did Charlton have the rights to  the  original Blue Beetle?  If 
this indeed true information, then  this would mean no BB reprints at all.    
 A new Blue Beetle with  no ties to the old, could possibly be done, because 
it wouldnt be derriative  (except by name - but DC clearly has the BB 
trademark, -- well I assume they do,  I havent looked it up).  the silver age bb ties 
in with the golden age guy  - so it is derriative.  
  Of course I have no idea about the truth of most of what I was told  -  
friend of a friend of a friend -- so who knows?
 
steven rowe

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I got those issues when they published them.  Late 80s, as I recall.=20=20
They also included the stories that appeared in Charlton Bullseye.

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In a message dated 11/2/2005 12:41:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
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>I  got those issues when they published them.  Late 80s, as I recall.   
>They also included the stories that appeared in Charlton  Bullseye.



while i got these when they came out, I dont recall if I still have all of  
them or not. so I occasionaly get one out of a quarter box - thus my being able 
 to say that #4 is November 1986 (printed in July of that year), and the 
Doomsday  Squad story is (c) 1974 Charlton comics.  
 
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I said this many months ago. You can have a character called Wolverine so long as he hasn't got retracting claws or is not being billed as a mutant,etc.,because this is an animal name.  Blue Beetle,as I pointed out before,was sold to DC in some odd deal and was questioned at the time. I believe the new BB will be female -look what they have done with Captain Atom's appearance in WILDSTORM.
nuff said.

sangorshop@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/2/2005 6:06:51 AM Eastern  Standard Time, 
shizumadrive@yahoo.com writes:
>> from what Im  told  we are very unlikely to see the
>> Blue Beetle from DC  
>> anymore.
> >

>Have their rights and license just  for the Beetle
>changed?  

What I was told, by a former DC editor - is that the legal department at  
Time-Warner doesnt think the paper trail of ownership for Blue Beetle  is  good 
enough - and could lead to a lawsuit not worth the cost of  continuing,  
Another source indicates the threat is from the Chaplin-Iger  company.   Basicaly, 
the question is did Charlton have the rights to  the  original Blue Beetle?  If 
this indeed true information, then  this would mean no BB reprints at all.    
A new Blue Beetle with  no ties to the old, could possibly be done, because 
it wouldnt be derriative  (except by name - but DC clearly has the BB 
trademark, -- well I assume they do,  I havent looked it up).  the silver age bb ties 
in with the golden age guy  - so it is derriative.  
  Of course I have no idea about the truth of most of what I was told  -  
friend of a friend of a friend -- so who knows?

steven rowe


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John,
 
That sounds interesting. I would have liked to have read it.
 
This said, I'd like to see a new Judomaster series, set in World War Two.
 
Judomaster was great--- a rare example where a 'sickkick' --- more like a mutual, equal partner in this case --- worked-! 
And worked well-!
 
It had so many things going for it. Bushuri, Susikawa (it was also a wonderful love story) - well-written, and illustrated. 
 
Dynamically written, interesting. 
 
It'll never happen. But I can dream, can't I-? The DC series that brought all the 'Charlton Action Heroes' back, with a new Peacemaker (what happened to the old one and how did he die, and WHERE EG: what comic and issue #-?) was interesting.
 
The Judomaster issue with the white costume --- hated it. 
 
Judomaster in the Silver Age had the perfect costume. 
 
DC just cannot stop changing those characters for the SAKE of change.
I hate that. 
And, the new Captain Atom: Armageddon series: basing the character's new look on an Alex Ross design which is truly horrific and garish. 
 
I usually like his stuff a lot. But this is just stupid. 
 
Phil Latter

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
I submitted a Judomaster proposal to Charlton shortly before they went kaput.  It was bringing him up to date (then modern times, not now) and having his son take over the Judomaster mantel.  They liked the idea and told me they would run the stories, if I found an artist to draw them, because they had no one on staff.  It never panned out and they went out of business shortly thereafter.

John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
John,

You and I are completely in agreement there. The fact that DC Comics has little to no interest in these characters seems obvious, given the lack of quality comics they have produced over the years, WITH those characters. 

They should sell them to a company that has the interest, the drive, and the talent to make these characters exciting again.

In my view, that hasn't been the case since.....well, since Charlton Comics-!

What would I give my right arm to see-?

Above all, two words: Judomaster-!
He's my favourite. Above all the others.

Best,

Phil Latter

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good.  Maybe DC an sell off those Charlton characters to someone who really loves them and will put out some books worth reading.  When you tend to have a pantheon of charatcers, you treat thenm totally as business.  There needs to be someone who has genuine concern and love for the charatcers, I think, to make tme work well.

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Terry, Phil, Michael, John, etc. al,

Obviously, this is HUGE news if it is true!  I've heard on the various
Charlton Yahoo lists over the past few years that, the inability to
contact Broughton, was probably due to his poor health.  In continuing
with the copyright discussion, upon Broughton's death, who owns the vast
majority of Charlton material?  It would be a sin if all the original art
that Broughton owns/owned, is rotting away somewhere at his residence!  I
know this seems a garganteun task, but if he did pass away, it is
imperative for someone or people, in the Charlton fan community, to save
all this artwork, by purchasing it from a Broughton relative.

Terry, who informed you of Broughton's possible demise?  If it's true, it
needs to be properly reported to the comic press, ie: Comics Journal,
Comics Buyers Guide, Alter Ego, Comic Book Artist, Back Issue.  The
easiest way to find out if he has died, is to confirm where he recently
lived in Canada, and research that town's daily and weekly newspapers
obituaries for the past year or so.

Paul Williams
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Paul,
 
Absolutely. I'll look into it this weekend.
 
Meantime, I am CC' ing your post to my own group, Canadian Comics. 
 
Hopefully, members there can aid in that search as well, within Canada. 
 
FIrst, we need to nail down what city or town in Canada (almost certainly Quebec, which was the province he lived in last I heard) --- he lived in.
 
Then, we need to research what newspapers are published in that town or city. 
That's vitally important.
 
Terry, what address for him did you turn up-? EG: what city-? Can you provide me his last known email address-? I realize that numerous emails over the past year or two all went unanswered. 
I'd like it, anyway, with full snail mail address.
I'll try phoning him. I shall also pull out numerous comics I have that he published, in search of a phone number. I am perfectly willing to try phoning him long distance.
 
A computer search of 'Roger Broughton' can be done at local Halifax libraries, in addition to libraries with internet access in other parts of Canada. 
But, I could use some help with this.
 
Because: a search of newspaper microfilm and microfiche files on the computer in Broughton's own area of Quebec is FAR more likely to turn something up, should the idle speculation about him right now, turn out to be true.
 
A town or city library computer bolean search of Roger Broughton in those newspapers in his home area, on microfilm and/-or microfiche is most likely to turn up something. 
If indeed, the gent has passed away.
 
Having done this type of search before in Halifax newspapers on microfilm and microfiche for Hal Foster (he was born here, in Halifax), I figure, almost certainly, that someone doing a library microfilm or microfiche newspaper files search in Broughton's area is far more likely to turn up something on Broughton's demise. 
If it is true, that is.
 
Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation right now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, not proof. This said, it seems (perhaps) likely.
 
Or, he could be in a nursing home. He was aged, and last I heard, quite some time ago, in poor health.
 
Do we even know if he was computer literate-?
 
I'm guessing that noone informed Terry of Broughton's possible demise, although I don't know for sure. 
I have been myself speculating the very same thing over the last several months. 
 
I think it is time we began to air our hypothesis on this. 
 
Mr. Broughton doesn't answer emails. He used to have a site on the internet, I hear (I don't know which one, if anyone has any info on that they could provide, I'd be grateful) --- and nooone has succeeded (many have tried) over the past year, to contact him. All with no success. This includes myself.
 
Regards,
 
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
 
Any volunteers to aid in the search-? 

RideTrainsandBuses@planet-save.com wrote:
Terry, Phil, Michael, John, etc. al,

Obviously, this is HUGE news if it is true!  I've heard on the various
Charlton Yahoo lists over the past few years that, the inability to
contact Broughton, was probably due to his poor health.  In continuing
with the copyright discussion, upon Broughton's death, who owns the vast
majority of Charlton material?  It would be a sin if all the original art
that Broughton owns/owned, is rotting away somewhere at his residence!  I
know this seems a garganteun task, but if he did pass away, it is
imperative for someone or people, in the Charlton fan community, to save
all this artwork, by purchasing it from a Broughton relative.

Terry, who informed you of Broughton's possible demise?  If it's true, it
needs to be properly reported to the comic press, ie: Comics Journal,
Comics Buyers Guide, Alter Ego, Comic Book Artist, Back Issue.  The
easiest way to find out if he has died, is to confirm where he recently
lived in Canada, and research that town's daily and weekly newspapers
obituaries for the past year or so.

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In a message dated 11/3/2005 6:49:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation 
right 
>now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, 
not proof. 


right, as he didnt answer emails when he was definately alive.

steven rowe

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I'm going to email Dave Wiltshire.  I belong to his yahoo group which is just for  information purposes about the Godd Guys and Gals of  the Golden Age, which was a part of Roger's PR Publications.  I think the last time I queried him about something, I din not get a response, but considering the subject matter, I might get one this time.  I'll let you know.
 
John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Paul,

Absolutely. I'll look into it this weekend.

Meantime, I am CC' ing your post to my own group, Canadian Comics. 

Hopefully, members there can aid in that search as well, within Canada. 

FIrst, we need to nail down what city or town in Canada (almost certainly Quebec, which was the province he lived in last I heard) --- he lived in.

Then, we need to research what newspapers are published in that town or city. 
That's vitally important.

Terry, what address for him did you turn up-? EG: what city-? Can you provide me his last known email address-? I realize that numerous emails over the past year or two all went unanswered. 
I'd like it, anyway, with full snail mail address.
I'll try phoning him. I shall also pull out numerous comics I have that he published, in search of a phone number. I am perfectly willing to try phoning him long distance.

A computer search of 'Roger Broughton' can be done at local Halifax libraries, in addition to libraries with internet access in other parts of Canada. 
But, I could use some help with this.

Because: a search of newspaper microfilm and microfiche files on the computer in Broughton's own area of Quebec is FAR more likely to turn something up, should the idle speculation about him right now, turn out to be true.

A town or city library computer bolean search of Roger Broughton in those newspapers in his home area, on microfilm and/-or microfiche is most likely to turn up something. 
If indeed, the gent has passed away.

Having done this type of search before in Halifax newspapers on microfilm and microfiche for Hal Foster (he was born here, in Halifax), I figure, almost certainly, that someone doing a library microfilm or microfiche newspaper files search in Broughton's area is far more likely to turn up something on Broughton's demise. 
If it is true, that is.

Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation right now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, not proof. This said, it seems (perhaps) likely.

Or, he could be in a nursing home. He was aged, and last I heard, quite some time ago, in poor health.

Do we even know if he was computer literate-?

I'm guessing that noone informed Terry of Broughton's possible demise, although I don't know for sure. 
I have been myself speculating the very same thing over the last several months. 

I think it is time we began to air our hypothesis on this. 

Mr. Broughton doesn't answer emails. He used to have a site on the internet, I hear (I don't know which one, if anyone has any info on that they could provide, I'd be grateful) --- and nooone has succeeded (many have tried) over the past year, to contact him. All with no success. This includes myself.

Regards,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Any volunteers to aid in the search-? 

RideTrainsandBuses@planet-save.com wrote:
Terry, Phil, Michael, John, etc. al,

Obviously, this is HUGE news if it is true!  I've heard on the various
Charlton Yahoo lists over the past few years that, the inability to
contact Broughton, was probably due to his poor health.  In continuing
with the copyright discussion, upon Broughton's death, who owns the vast
majority of Charlton material?  It would be a sin if all the original art
that Broughton owns/owned, is rotting away somewhere at his residence!  I
know this seems a garganteun task, but if he did pass away, it is
imperative for someone or people, in the Charlton fan community, to save
all this artwork, by purchasing it from a Broughton relative.

Terry, who informed you of Broughton's possible demise?  If it's true, it
needs to be properly reported to the comic press, ie: Comics Journal,
Comics Buyers Guide, Alter Ego, Comic Book Artist, Back Issue.  The
easiest way to find out if he has died, is to confirm where he recently
lived in Canada, and research that town's daily and weekly newspapers
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Sorry everyone, I meant Darren Wiltshire.
 
John Packer

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to email Dave Wiltshire.  I belong to his yahoo group which is just for  information purposes about the Godd Guys and Gals of  the Golden Age, which was a part of Roger's PR Publications.  I think the last time I queried him about something, I din not get a response, but considering the subject matter, I might get one this time.  I'll let you know.

John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Paul,

Absolutely. I'll look into it this weekend.

Meantime, I am CC' ing your post to my own group, Canadian Comics. 

Hopefully, members there can aid in that search as well, within Canada. 

FIrst, we need to nail down what city or town in Canada (almost certainly Quebec, which was the province he lived in last I heard) --- he lived in.

Then, we need to research what newspapers are published in that town or city. 
That's vitally important.

Terry, what address for him did you turn up-? EG: what city-? Can you provide me his last known email address-? I realize that numerous emails over the past year or two all went unanswered. 
I'd like it, anyway, with full snail mail address.
I'll try phoning him. I shall also pull out numerous comics I have that he published, in search of a phone number. I am perfectly willing to try phoning him long distance.

A computer search of 'Roger Broughton' can be done at local Halifax libraries, in addition to libraries with internet access in other parts of Canada. 
But, I could use some help with this.

Because: a search of newspaper microfilm and microfiche files on the computer in Broughton's own area of Quebec is FAR more likely to turn something up, should the idle speculation about him right now, turn out to be true.

A town or city library computer bolean search of Roger Broughton in those newspapers in his home area, on microfilm and/-or microfiche is most likely to turn up something. 
If indeed, the gent has passed away.

Having done this type of search before in Halifax newspapers on microfilm and microfiche for Hal Foster (he was born here, in Halifax), I figure, almost certainly, that someone doing a library microfilm or microfiche newspaper files search in Broughton's area is far more likely to turn up something on Broughton's demise. 
If it is true, that is.

Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation right now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, not proof. This said, it seems (perhaps) likely.

Or, he could be in a nursing home. He was aged, and last I heard, quite some time ago, in poor health.

Do we even know if he was computer literate-?

I'm guessing that noone informed Terry of Broughton's possible demise, although I don't know for sure. 
I have been myself speculating the very same thing over the last several months. 

I think it is time we began to air our hypothesis on this. 

Mr. Broughton doesn't answer emails. He used to have a site on the internet, I hear (I don't know which one, if anyone has any info on that they could provide, I'd be grateful) --- and nooone has succeeded (many have tried) over the past year, to contact him. All with no success. This includes myself.

Regards,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Any volunteers to aid in the search-? 

RideTrainsandBuses@planet-save.com wrote:
Terry, Phil, Michael, John, etc. al,

Obviously, this is HUGE news if it is true!  I've heard on the various
Charlton Yahoo lists over the past few years that, the inability to
contact Broughton, was probably due to his poor health.  In continuing
with the copyright discussion, upon Broughton's death, who owns the vast
majority of Charlton material?  It would be a sin if all the original art
that Broughton owns/owned, is rotting away somewhere at his residence!  I
know this seems a garganteun task, but if he did pass away, it is
imperative for someone or people, in the Charlton fan community, to save
all this artwork, by purchasing it from a Broughton relative.

Terry, who informed you of Broughton's possible demise?  If it's true, it
needs to be properly reported to the comic press, ie: Comics Journal,
Comics Buyers Guide, Alter Ego, Comic Book Artist, Back Issue.  The
easiest way to find out if he has died, is to confirm where he recently
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Boy.  When I mess up, I mess up.  Sorry every one.  I am totally confused.  I confused Roger Boughton with some one named Richard Boucher.  So disregard all on my emails on th subject.  I have no idea what I'm talking about.  In other words.  "Never Mind."
 
Sorry, again.
 
John Packer

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to email Dave Wiltshire.  I belong to his yahoo group which is just for  information purposes about the Godd Guys and Gals of  the Golden Age, which was a part of Roger's PR Publications.  I think the last time I queried him about something, I din not get a response, but considering the subject matter, I might get one this time.  I'll let you know.

John Packer

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Paul,

Absolutely. I'll look into it this weekend.

Meantime, I am CC' ing your post to my own group, Canadian Comics. 

Hopefully, members there can aid in that search as well, within Canada. 

FIrst, we need to nail down what city or town in Canada (almost certainly Quebec, which was the province he lived in last I heard) --- he lived in.

Then, we need to research what newspapers are published in that town or city. 
That's vitally important.

Terry, what address for him did you turn up-? EG: what city-? Can you provide me his last known email address-? I realize that numerous emails over the past year or two all went unanswered. 
I'd like it, anyway, with full snail mail address.
I'll try phoning him. I shall also pull out numerous comics I have that he published, in search of a phone number. I am perfectly willing to try phoning him long distance.

A computer search of 'Roger Broughton' can be done at local Halifax libraries, in addition to libraries with internet access in other parts of Canada. 
But, I could use some help with this.

Because: a search of newspaper microfilm and microfiche files on the computer in Broughton's own area of Quebec is FAR more likely to turn something up, should the idle speculation about him right now, turn out to be true.

A town or city library computer bolean search of Roger Broughton in those newspapers in his home area, on microfilm and/-or microfiche is most likely to turn up something. 
If indeed, the gent has passed away.

Having done this type of search before in Halifax newspapers on microfilm and microfiche for Hal Foster (he was born here, in Halifax), I figure, almost certainly, that someone doing a library microfilm or microfiche newspaper files search in Broughton's area is far more likely to turn up something on Broughton's demise. 
If it is true, that is.

Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation right now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, not proof. This said, it seems (perhaps) likely.

Or, he could be in a nursing home. He was aged, and last I heard, quite some time ago, in poor health.

Do we even know if he was computer literate-?

I'm guessing that noone informed Terry of Broughton's possible demise, although I don't know for sure. 
I have been myself speculating the very same thing over the last several months. 

I think it is time we began to air our hypothesis on this. 

Mr. Broughton doesn't answer emails. He used to have a site on the internet, I hear (I don't know which one, if anyone has any info on that they could provide, I'd be grateful) --- and nooone has succeeded (many have tried) over the past year, to contact him. All with no success. This includes myself.

Regards,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Any volunteers to aid in the search-? 

RideTrainsandBuses@planet-save.com wrote:
Terry, Phil, Michael, John, etc. al,

Obviously, this is HUGE news if it is true!  I've heard on the various
Charlton Yahoo lists over the past few years that, the inability to
contact Broughton, was probably due to his poor health.  In continuing
with the copyright discussion, upon Broughton's death, who owns the vast
majority of Charlton material?  It would be a sin if all the original art
that Broughton owns/owned, is rotting away somewhere at his residence!  I
know this seems a garganteun task, but if he did pass away, it is
imperative for someone or people, in the Charlton fan community, to save
all this artwork, by purchasing it from a Broughton relative.

Terry, who informed you of Broughton's possible demise?  If it's true, it
needs to be properly reported to the comic press, ie: Comics Journal,
Comics Buyers Guide, Alter Ego, Comic Book Artist, Back Issue.  The
easiest way to find out if he has died, is to confirm where he recently
lived in Canada, and research that town's daily and weekly newspapers
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You're right there, Steve. 
He never, ever answered any of mine nor Terry Hooper's, either.
 
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sangorshop@aol.com wrote:
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chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:
>Please note: the idea that Broughton has passed away is mere speculation 
right 
>now. His not answering emails for, literally, a few years, is, of course, 
not proof. 


right, as he didnt answer emails when he was definately alive.

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Excuse the cross-posting, but for reasons that will become clear, I'm a little pressed for time at the moment.

I'm delighted to announce that an exclusive signing by Alan Class will proceed in spite of the temporary closure of my shop, 30th Century Comics. 

The signing will be held on the same date (27th November) at the same time (2pm-5pm), and will now take place just two doors along from our shop at 22 Lower Richmond Road (Vacation Club Travel Agents) where our very kind neighbours have allowed us to use their premises for the event. 

Alan Class will be making a personal appearance on Sunday 27th November 2005 from 2-5pm, to sign copies from his file collection, and to talk about his lengthy career in comics publishing.  Also available will be a limited number of Collector's Sets - comprising the comic, the four-colour printing plates used to produce that issue's cover, and one or more proof pages, each with a signed Certificate of Authenticity from Mr. Class himself.

Mr. Class' "Big Six" of monthly 68-page black & white reprint comics - Astounding Stories, Creepy Worlds, Secrets of the Unknown, Sinister Tales, Suspense, and Uncanny Tales - were part of the landscape of every comics reader growing up in the UK between 1959 and 1989, and in recent years have become collectable because of their eclectic selection of material - Atlas, Charlton, early Marvel Universe, Tower, and Archie Super-Heroes reprinted cheek by jowl with no apparent pattern. As a relatively inexpensive source of vintage material, they're now becoming much more appreciated by readers.

 Mr. Class will be signing copies available for purchase on the day, but if you have previously bought from his collection and want those copies signed, bring them along and he'll be happy to do so. Unfortunately, due to time constraints, only certificated copies from his private collection can be signed. If you can't make it on the day, but would like to get something signed, that's no problem. Just get in touch with us no later than Saturday 26th November. 

An inventory of the Alan Class Collection can be found at our website; www.30thcenturycomics.co.uk . Uncanny Tales will be being added within the next week or so, completing the Alan Class Inventory. 

You can now contact us by phone on our old number 020 8788 2052. We can't guarantee we'll always be able to answer, since we're running around a lot at the moment, but you should be able to reach us most Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.  

E-mail is still the best way to contact us for the time being, at sales@30thcenturycomics.co.uk 

Following a fire at the premises above our shop on 26th October, we have had to close temporarily whilst the damage to the building is assessed and for forensic and fire services investigation. Although the fire did not reach inside our shop, there was damage to our frontage and entranceway. At this stage we see no evidence of damage to our stock. Repairs have begun to be effected, and we hope to be open to the public for trading very soon. 


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See my rejection letter from Steve Ditko at:
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=3D17402
Mike Browning




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Mike,
   
  Don't take the wrong way. But I think it is pretty cool that you got a letter from Steve Ditko.
   
  As short as it is. Even a rejection letter from him is cool, in my opinion.
   
  Maybe I should try to find his address to ask him to do a paid commission for me. Actually, I think I have his address somewhere. 
   
  I wouldn't write him because I think he'd do the commission. I'm sure he wouldn't. But just for the thrill of getting a rejection letter from him. He's probably the only person on the entire planet that it would THRILL me to get a rejection letter from. For the reason that, I hear he is such a recluse, I'm amazed that he even answered your letter.
   
  Based on everything I've heard of him, the fact that he did reply, I'm not surprised the letter was so short and terse. For the reason that he is such a recluse.
   
  His extremely brief letter,
   
  "Dear Michael,
   
  Thanks for the offer, but I'm not interested in doing the illustration.
   
  Regards,
   
  Steve Ditko "
   
  That's probably actually kind of long-winded, for him. 
   
  You know what I think would be funny-? : If you wrote him back an equally short reply. EG:
   
  "Dear Steve,
   
  Why not-?
   
  Regards,
   
  Michael Browning "
   
  Or, even better:
   
  "Dear Steve,
   
  Howcome-?
   
  Regards,
   
  Michael Browning "
   
  
   
  It would then be cool if he replied one last time:
   
  "Dear Michael,
   
  Because.
   
  Regards,
   
  Steve Ditko."
   
  --Phil Latter

greatonefrommatewan <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  See my rejection letter from Steve Ditko at:
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=17402
Mike Browning
		
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On the other hand, 
   
  A rejection letter from Sanda Bullock or Angelina Jolie would rock me down to my very foundations/-rock me to the very core of my being.
  I'd bury my head in the sand.
   
  Phil Latter

		
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Who here is a big fan of the Fightin' 5? I don't have all of those issues, but I do have several stories in reprint and in original form.  I'd love to see them get some sort of reprint package, but I don't hold my breath for that one.  I regard them as part of the Action Hero line, but they weren't scooped up with the other stuff for some reason.:(

Dean



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What is the best way that DC can make use of the Charlton characters they control?

 

Clearly with the death of Ted Kord and the transfer of Captain Atom to the Wildstorm universe, the role othe Charlton characters (introduced during the Crisis On Infinite Earths event) in the DCU is undergoing a change. But in your opinion what should that change be?

 

Personally I'd like to see a return to the whole multiple Earths concept and I'd love to see the Charlton heroes returned to their original mileau to work together. I don't think that's going to happen by any means, but it would be the best thing for these characters who have become chattel in the larger and frankly quited crowded DCU. 

What do you all think?:)



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Nice illustration on the home page.  I prefer a more serious look to=20
the charactrs, but I suppose that if thre were cartoons done of them=20
today this would be the look.  The art is very impressive.  Who did it?

John packer




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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@y...>=20
wrote:
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>=20
> Who here is a big fan of the Fightin' 5? I don't have all of those=20
issues, but I do have several stories in reprint and in original form.=20=20
I'd love to see them get some sort of reprint package, but I don't hold=20
my breath for that one.  I regard them as part of the Action Hero line,=20
but they weren't scooped up with the other stuff for some reason.:(
>=20

Don't know why DC didn't pick them up also.  Roger Broughton owns them,=20
and has done a few reprints of them (but for some reason renaming them).

Michael Brown





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Subject: Re: Home Page Art By Loston!
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Loston Wallace is the artist. He was an active member several years=20
ago and did this image specifically for the group (actually this was=20
when we were still a "club"). It's typical for his style and very=20
energetic. I've not used for some time and thought it a grand time to=20
break it out for a spell.

Dean

Below is a link to Loston's website:

http://www.lostonwallace.com/

If that doesn't work try the Links section for it.






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I didn't realize they'd been renamed in reprint. What's the new=20
monicker, if I might ask?

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Dean,
   
  It's happening right now (return to mutiple Earth's) in DC's INFINITE CRISIS.
   
  INFINITE EARTHS # 2 is out now from DC Comics, and, like the previous title CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS from several years ago, the art is by George Perez.
   
  Everything is unravelling-!
   
  Don't miss this mini series, folks-! 
  Although apparently Dean didn't know, he is getting his wish about DC's relaunching Infinite Earths.....right now-!
   
  It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the Chartlon Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even Judomaster and Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-!
  It's only a cameo, but it's still cool-!
   
  JM is my favourite. Also known.....as Rip Jagger.
   
  Hey waitaminute.....Dean-! 
   
  Oh, I too am getting the new Captain Atom series in the Wildstorm universe. Interesting, and well done. But I hate Captain Atom's new (garish) look, based on an older Alex Ross design. Ecchh. And normally, I LOVE his stuff. Not this design. Ugly.
  Even worse than the previous DC version.
   
  My Best,
   
  Phil Latter
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ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  
What is the best way that DC can make use of the Charlton characters they control?
Clearly with the death of Ted Kord and the transfer of Captain Atom to the Wildstorm universe, the role of the Charlton characters (introduced during the Crisis On Infinite Earths event) in the DCU is undergoing a change. But in your opinion what should that change be?

  Personally, I'd like to see a return to the whole multiple Earths concept and I'd love to see the Charlton heroes returned to their original mileau to work together. I don't think that's going to happen by any means, but it would be the best thing for these characters who have become chattel in the larger and frankly quited crowded DCU. 

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I don't have all of the Fightin' Five's either Dean, but I have most of them. Originals, not reprints. Missing very few. 
   
  Yeah, I'm a big fan of them. It'd be great to see some new comics of them, not reprints. But, it'll never, ever happen. Too bad.  : - (
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  
Who here is a big fan of the Fightin' 5? I don't have all of those issues, but I do have several stories in reprint and in original form.  I'd love to see them get some sort of reprint package, but I don't hold my breath for that one.  I regard them as part of the Action Hero line, but they weren't scooped up with the other stuff for some reason.:(

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   It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the  Chartlon Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even  Judomaster and Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-!

  
  Not all Thunderbolt of course was missing.


		
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Oh I'm following this new Crisis for sure. But while it seems the=20
multiple Earth concept is returning for the moment, I don't frankly=20
see much hope that Charlton-Earth will get much attention. Ted Kord is=20
dead, though I keep hearing about a "new" Blue Beetle (I'm guessing a=20
woman this time myself), and Captain Atom is effectively away in the=20
Wildstorm universe. Peacemaker is undetected, Judomaster is missing,=20
Sarge Steel is not around, Nightshade has been involved but seems a=20
minor player right now as part of the Shadowpact, and as mentioned=20
Thunderbolt is unavailable. So while we might get a return to multiple=20
Earths (which we actually already have technically) I don't hold my=20
breath that we'll get an Action Hero Universe to play in.

But I  hope I'm wrong. :)

Dean





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I would like to see new stories with the Cahrlton Action heroes including Thunderbolt.  However, let someone else other than DC do them, unless of course they are going to allow so ot the old Charlton writers such as Denny O'neil aka Sergius O'Shaugnesy)  do the characters.  AC did a good job on the Sentinels one shot with Captain Aton, Nightshade, Blue Beetle and the Question.  Add Thunderbolt to the team, and I guess they would have to get a new name, since AC has that one.  I'd like to see new Judomaster stories also...preferably WWII tales, but updating the character if done well would be acceptable.  Long live the real Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, the Question, Thunderbolt, Judomaster.  Oh, let's bring back Mercury Man, the Prankster, Fightin' 5, etc.
   
  John Packer
   
  

Kirk Westbeld <shizumadrive@yahoo.com> wrote:
  
  
   It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the  Chartlon Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even  Judomaster and Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-!

  
  Not all Thunderbolt of course was missing.


            
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You're right. Thunderbolt was missing from Infinite Crisis # 2. 
  Presumably, because DC Comics is keeping their word for a change, by not using T-Bolt, which they don't now, nor ever, owned. 
  They're keeping their word, by not using him against Pete Morisi's wishes (who owned the character), now that Pete Morisi....has passed away.
  Ironically.
   
  I also would love to see new stories with the Charlton Action Heroes. 
   
  I think that, were DC Comics to use Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt, they should ask permission first, from the Morisi estate, and financially compensate them for the...."short term lease." Otherwise, they should buy the rights outright from them. 
  Legally. Financially compensate them.
   
  Now me, I would like to see Son Of Vulcan come back, also.
  The original, not that awful (in my opinion) new version, with that six year old (looks like) Son Of Vulcan in the just ended new mini series. Which I hated. 
   
  I like the new DC Son Of Vulcan outfit much better, but that's it.
  The rest.....ECCHH-!
   
  I liked the two AC Comics (not one) with the new at the time Charlton Action Heroes, also. 
   
  Yep, The Prankster it would be fun to see again. I am reasonably certain that The Prankster appeared only once, in (I think) a single issue of Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt, the Charlton Silver Age version, in a backup story, by the late Jim Aparo. If memory serves.
   
  I'm a big Fighin' Five fan. But DC Comics doesn't own the rights. It'll never be sorted out, probably, who DOES own the rights to Fightin' Five. I believe that Roger Broughton owns reprint rights. Only.
   
  The late Charlton Comics didn't exactly leave a paper trail...
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

John Packer <johnpacker2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
  I would like to see new stories with the Cahrlton Action heroes including Thunderbolt.  However, let someone else other than DC do them, unless of course they are going to allow so ot the old Charlton writers such as Denny O'neil aka Sergius O'Shaugnesy)  do the characters.  AC did a good job on the Sentinels one shot with Captain Aton, Nightshade, Blue Beetle and the Question.  Add Thunderbolt to the team, and I guess they would have to get a new name, since AC has that one.  I'd like to see new Judomaster stories also...preferably WWII tales, but updating the character if done well would be acceptable.  Long live the real Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, the Question, Thunderbolt, Judomaster.  Oh, let's bring back Mercury Man, the Prankster, Fightin' 5, etc.
   
  John Packer
   
  

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   It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the  Chartlon Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even  Judomaster and Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-!

  
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... as a few people were not that long ago, if memory serves ...

has anyone mentioned the joe staton/nicola cuti e-man-centric interview in the new issue (#13) of "back issue"? conducted by our own mike ambrose, as it happens. 

highly recommended.

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> You're right. Thunderbolt was missing from Infinite Crisis # 2. 
> Presumably, because DC Comics is keeping their word for a change, by not using 
> T-Bolt, which they don't now, nor ever, owned. 
> They're keeping their word, by not using him against Pete Morisi's wishes (who 
> owned the character), now that Pete Morisi....has passed away. 
> Ironically. 
> 
> I also would love to see new stories with the Charlton Action Heroes. 
> 
> I think that, were DC Comics to use Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt, they should 
> ask permission first, from the Morisi estate, and financially compensate them 
> for the...."short term lease." Otherwise, they should buy the rights outright 
> from them. 
> Legally. Financially compensate them. 
> 
> Now me, I would like to see Son Of Vulcan come back, also. 
> The original, not that awful (in my opinion) new version, with that six year 
> old (looks like) Son Of Vulcan in the just ended new mini series. Which I hated. 
> 
> I like the new DC Son Of Vulcan outfit much better, but that's it. 
> The rest.....ECCHH-! 
> 
> I liked the two AC Comics (not one) with the new at the time Charlton Action 
> Heroes, also. 
> 
> Yep, The Prankster it would be fun to see again. I am reasonably certain that 
> The Prankster appeared only once, in (I think) a single issue of Peter Cannon/- 
> Thunderbolt, the Charlton Silver Age version, in a backup story, by the late Jim 
> Aparo. If memory serves. 
> 
> I'm a big Fighin' Five fan. But DC Comics doesn't own the rights. It'll never 
> be sorted out, probably, who DOES own the rights to Fightin' Five. I believe 
> that Roger Broughton owns reprint rights. Only. 
> 
> The late Charlton Comics didn't exactly leave a paper trail... 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Phil Latter 
> Halifax, Nova Scotia 
> Canada 
> 
> John Packer wrote: 
> I would like to see new stories with the Cahrlton Action heroes including 
> Thunderbolt. However, let someone else other than DC do them, unless of course 
> they are going to allow so ot the old Charlton writers such as Denny O'neil aka 
> Sergius O'Shaugnesy) do the characters. AC did a good job on the Sentinels one 
> shot with Captain Aton, Nightshade, Blue Beetle and the Question. Add 
> Thunderbolt to the team, and I guess they would have to get a new name, since AC 
> has that one. I'd like to see new Judomaster stories also...preferably WWII 
> tales, but updating the character if done well would be acceptable. Long live 
> the real Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, the Question, Thunderbolt, 
> Judomaster. Oh, let's bring back Mercury Man, the Prankster, Fightin' 5, etc. 
> 
> John Packer 
> 
> 
> 
> Kirk Westbeld wrote: 
> 
> 
> It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the Chartlon 
> Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even Judomaster and 
> Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-! 
> 
> 
> Not all Thunderbolt of course was missing. 
> 
> 
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Brother, I am ready for that issue!

Rome 
 
 Visit Rome's E-Man site at http://alectronn.homestead.com/Eman.html 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: dpbailey@att.net
Date: 11/23/05 19:09:30
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] speaking of e-man ...
 
.... as a few people were not that long ago, if memory serves ...
 
has anyone mentioned the joe staton/nicola cuti e-man-centric interview in
the new issue (#13) of "back issue"? conducted by our own mike ambrose, as
it happens.
 
highly recommended.
 
dan, who noticed a mention of a forthcoming feature on don newton as well ..

 
 
 
 
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> You're right. Thunderbolt was missing from Infinite Crisis # 2.
> Presumably, because DC Comics is keeping their word for a change, by not
using
> T-Bolt, which they don't now, nor ever, owned.
> They're keeping their word, by not using him against Pete Morisi's wishes
(who
> owned the character), now that Pete Morisi....has passed away.
> Ironically.
>
> I also would love to see new stories with the Charlton Action Heroes.
>
> I think that, were DC Comics to use Peter Cannon/- Thunderbolt, they
should
> ask permission first, from the Morisi estate, and financially compensate
them
> for the...."short term lease." Otherwise, they should buy the rights
outright
> from them.
> Legally. Financially compensate them.
>
> Now me, I would like to see Son Of Vulcan come back, also.
> The original, not that awful (in my opinion) new version, with that six
year
> old (looks like) Son Of Vulcan in the just ended new mini series. Which I
hated.
>
> I like the new DC Son Of Vulcan outfit much better, but that's it.
> The rest.....ECCHH-!
>
> I liked the two AC Comics (not one) with the new at the time Charlton
Action
> Heroes, also.
>
> Yep, The Prankster it would be fun to see again. I am reasonably certain
that
> The Prankster appeared only once, in (I think) a single issue of Peter
Cannon/-
> Thunderbolt, the Charlton Silver Age version, in a backup story, by the
late Jim
> Aparo. If memory serves.
>
> I'm a big Fighin' Five fan. But DC Comics doesn't own the rights. It'll
never
> be sorted out, probably, who DOES own the rights to Fightin' Five. I
believe
> that Roger Broughton owns reprint rights. Only.
>
> The late Charlton Comics didn't exactly leave a paper trail...
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada
>
> John Packer wrote:
> I would like to see new stories with the Cahrlton Action heroes including
> Thunderbolt. However, let someone else other than DC do them, unless of
course
> they are going to allow so ot the old Charlton writers such as Denny O
neil aka
> Sergius O'Shaugnesy) do the characters. AC did a good job on the Sentinels
one
> shot with Captain Aton, Nightshade, Blue Beetle and the Question. Add
> Thunderbolt to the team, and I guess they would have to get a new name,
since AC
> has that one. I'd like to see new Judomaster stories also...preferably
WWII
> tales, but updating the character if done well would be acceptable. Long
live
> the real Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade, the Question, Thunderbolt,
> Judomaster. Oh, let's bring back Mercury Man, the Prankster, Fightin' 5,
etc.
>
> John Packer
>
>
>
> Kirk Westbeld wrote:
>
>
> It's not MY wish, but hey.....but this much is cool: ALL of the Chartlon
> Action heroes are in # 2, in their original costumes. Even Judomaster and
> Nightshade are in this issue, # 2-!
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It's a great issue indeed. The E-Man stuff is outstanding and among=20
the many things I learned was that E-Man was visually based on Roger=20
Moore and Nova Kane was based on Kim Novak. "Nova-k"...get it!

Great issue, and Back Issue isn't a book I get regularly. The cover=20
features an E-Man drawing by the great Nick Cardy! That's wonderful in=20
and of itself!

Dean





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I want to wish all the membership (even those who might not celebrate=20
the day) a Happy Thanksgiving!

I'm off to visit, eat, and help my daughter settle into her new house.=20
Life's pretty good, even if I can't find everything I need when I pack!

See Ya Later!

Dean :)




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Wow. roger mooore and Kim Novak.  Who'da thunk it.
   
  John Packer

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  It's a great issue indeed. The E-Man stuff is outstanding and among 
the many things I learned was that E-Man was visually based on Roger 
Moore and Nova Kane was based on Kim Novak. "Nova-k"...get it!

Great issue, and Back Issue isn't a book I get regularly. The cover 
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Minor correction, 5 pages are by Perez, the rest is Jiminez.

I really don't think the multiverse is returning, at least not
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Probably some twist and turns with something unexpected later.

BTW I LOVE the opening art too!





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How do you pronounce the names of the following Charlton professionals:

Rocke Masterioso (Is it "Rocky" or just "Rock"?)
Sal Gentile (Is it "Gentile" or "Genteel"?)
Ernie Bache (Is it "Back" or "Bahk"?)
Joe Gill (Actually I'm kidding on this last one.:))

Dean




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Correction: "Rocke Mastroserio"? Sorry about that! :(





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This is according to DC's latest info, so I guess that legal issue=20
isn't much of an issue...

Keith Giffen, John Rogers, and Cully Hamner new Blue Beetle=20
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Hamner's new look for the character is quite amazing. But before the=20
series starts, the scarab pops up in Infinite Crisis #3.




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Hi i have uploaded a new file ,it is a list of the action hero line .=20
It is not finished ,it has every thing that i know of.If anyone can=20
help finish it that would be great.=20
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                               thank you CAPTN'G                      =
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From: "GUY E. SPARKMAN" <sparkmang@hotmail.com>
Subject: GIVE THE CHARLTON HEROES THEIR OWN UNIVERSE
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Hi everyone
 My name is Guy and I don't post much but I for one would love to see=20
DC use the Charlton Heroes in their own universe, and use the Charlton=20
comics as the history.
thank you Capt'n G





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Subject: Re: Dreams of a Charlton World!
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I agree about the Charlton heroes and how they should be used. I think=20
the chances of the happening are nil, but it's a pleasant daydream.

Captain Atom's history has been turned into fantasy and he's been=20
banished to the Wildstorm universe for now, Ted Kord is dead and a new=20
Blue Beetle is about to stumble into the DCU, Nightshade is part of=20
the Shadowpact team which is going to become an ongoing series after=20
Crisis, and I've yet to hear about Sarge Steel, Judomaster, and=20
Peacemaker. But with all that stuff I don't see a return to the=20
Charlton pocket universe. :(

Dean




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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stern Scripts Ditko's Captain Atom!
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Roger Stern in an interview over at Comic Book Resources had a lot=20
to say about his career, but this is the part of special interest to=20
all Charlton fans:

"CBR: How did this lead into Charlton Comics?=20

Stern: Those of us working on CPL had a lot of affection for the=20
Charlton Comics of the 1960s - especially those produced by Mssrs.=20
Ditko, Giordano, Aparo, Boyette, et al - and the later comics that=20
Nick Cuti and Joe Staton were creating. We eventually devoted a=20
double-sized issue of CPL to a folio of illustrations and articles=20
about the Charlton characters. And that led to editor Bob Layton=20
getting Charlton's blessing to produce the "Charlton Bullseye"=20
fanzine.=20

CBR: Your first published comics story was a Steve Ditko "Captain=20
Atom" story. As a newcomer, how did you get to work with Steve=20
Ditko?=20

Stern: Well, I didn't really work with Ditko. He had already plotted=20
and penciled that story for the "Captain Atom" comic book. It was=20
still on the shelf at Charlton and they turned it over to Bob. And=20
then Bob turned it over to me to script because 1) at the time he=20
didn't know how to contact Dave Kaler who had been the=20
previous "Captain Atom" writer, and 2) he could pay me in back=20
issues of CPL.=20

And here's the interesting thing about that story: there was no=20
written plot. All I had to go by were the penciled pages. But, you=20
know, those pages were all I needed. It was Ditko! The storytelling=20
was so great, you could tell exactly what was going on. I just wish=20
I could go back and rewrite it now, knowing what I've since learned=20
about the craft of writing.=20

I did eventually meet Ditko at Marvel, and even wound up working=20
with him for real. He drew an "Avengers Annual" that I wrote. And I=20
scripted the first few issues of his "Speedball" series."=20


I was fascinated to learn how little Ditko was in that script. I'll=20
have to go over to the Annex and read that beauty again. :)







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Subject: Sterno Interview!
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Here's a link to the whole interview with Roger Stern:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=3D6238






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Last I heard Peacemaker was dead.

On 11/26/05, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I agree about the Charlton heroes and how they should be used. I think
> the chances of the happening are nil, but it's a pleasant daydream.
>
> Captain Atom's history has been turned into fantasy and he's been
> banished to the Wildstorm universe for now, Ted Kord is dead and a new
> Blue Beetle is about to stumble into the DCU, Nightshade is part of
> the Shadowpact team which is going to become an ongoing series after
> Crisis, and I've yet to hear about Sarge Steel, Judomaster, and
> Peacemaker. But with all that stuff I don't see a return to the
> Charlton pocket universe. :(
>
> Dean
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In LAW there was a small organization of "Peacemakers", really not=20
that much related to the original. The one that worked with the other=20
Charlton heroes was a doctor if memory serves. I'd have to dig out the=20
books to know more. I don't think anything has been done with this=20
Peacemaker concept since.

Dean




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It'd be a nice idea if they didn't end up throwing hack writers at the charlton characters or worse just forgetting about them. 
  
  Thanks to LAW id guess the first would happen.


		
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Subject: Giffen Talks New Blue Beetle!
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I was wrong. Apparently the new Beetle will be a guy, but that's about=20
all we know so far. No reboot, and all the Charlton history (Dan=20
Garret, Ted Kord, etc.) is going to be retained. So not only is DC not=20
ignoring the character, but they seem to be embracing BB's past.=20
Sounds interesting!

Here's a link for the whole Newsarama interview:

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?
s=3D3e870374023ea29de13451d0f08125f4&threadid=3D50609




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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Giffen Talks New Blue Beetle - Missing Link!
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I can't get a link to the article to work so let me give you a handy=20
one to Newsarama itself and you can find the article pretty quickly.

Sorry about that.

Here's the link:

http://newsarama.com/





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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@y...>=20
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> I didn't realize they'd been renamed in reprint. What's the new=20
> monicker, if I might ask?
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I don't recall.=20=20

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was tight for me and finding his stuff was near impossible.  Somehow I=20
recall that I found a F5 reprint in one of his books BUT they weren't=20
called the F5.  I don't know what they were called.

Michael Brown





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I'm not making any promises, but Giffen's comments hearten me somewhat=20
that this new Beetle could be a character of interest. It will matter=20
a great deal on how the artwork turns out. I'm not interested in one=20
of these newbie kids with the manga style, so a choice like that (and=20
a likely choice it is) would rule the book out. I might try one issue=20
just to get a flavor, but I don't see it becoming a regular addition=20
to the monthly rotation.

Dean




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Thanks for the information. I'll have to get to the bottom of this=20
mystery. I'm hankering to know what else you'd call these=20
guys. "Strikeforce"? "Commando Team"?

Dean




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I can't recall what the group was referred to as, internally, but Broughton
called the comic itself "The Power of Five" - don't recall if he managed to
get out more than one issue of it.  Most of Broughton's stuff ended up as
one-shots whether it was meant that way or not.

David


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> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@y...>
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> > I didn't realize they'd been renamed in reprint. What's the new
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> I don't recall.
>
> Broughton was putting out most of his stuff during a time when money
> was tight for me and finding his stuff was near impossible.  Somehow I
> recall that I found a F5 reprint in one of his books BUT they weren't
> called the F5.  I don't know what they were called.
>
> Michael Brown
>
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I miss Ted but since DC wants to do its own things  different from how the characters were in the old Charlton then maybe  its good to have a new one.
  
  Ill give it a shot. It's ongoing which is good and he said he he he so  i'd say its not a girl which is good. If it was a girl id think itd be  the girl wildcat who replaced Ted Grant all over again.


		
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Thanks! I found a "Power of Five" entry at Mile High, but no image.=20
I'll have to check this out further. I can't wait to check out my=20
local store. He has several offbeat ACG offerings tucked away, and he=20
might just have this one.

Thanks one and all!:)




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I found an image of ACG's Power of 5 reprint, and the cover is an=20
altered version of Fightin' 5 #38 (see album). I've put the Power of 5=20
image in the Files section under its own name and I've added to the=20
Fightin' 5 Album. So take a look!

Dean:)






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Thanks.  Neat cover.  Loved the Fightin' 5 stories that I've read.  Any chance of scanning any of those books, or do you just have the covers?
   
  John Packer

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Nah. I found that image on the net, and I don't own the book. Sigh!:(






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I read on POVOnline this morning that Bill Fracchio, longtime partner=20
of Tony Tallarico has passed away. His work on Blue Beetle, Son of=20
Vulcan, other stuff for Charlton is a favorite with me. Fracchio and=20
Tallarico also did stuff Dell and Warren. See the link below for more=20
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http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2005_12_07.html#010669




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Although I can't say I was much of a fan of Mr Fraccio's work, either on his 
own or teamed with Tallarico, it saddens me to think that yet another of the 
artists WHO WERE THERE is gone.

I hope someone can write a fuller tribute to his life and work.

Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
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Subject: QOTM: Favorite Action Hero?
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Judomaster gets the nod from me. Although he was isolated from the=20
others during his Charlton period (and rarely seen since DC picked=20
them up) Rip Jagger has always held a special place in my memory. His=20
lack of superpowers is especially vivid given the war setting, and=20
though most of the Action heroes were just men (Captain Atom being the=20
exception) they most all had tools or gimmicks that made them special.=20
Judomaster had his skills, skills one could only assume any good=20
athelete could gain with training and effort. It made him a hero I=20
might actually aspire to be one day.

Who is your favorite Action Hero?

Dean:)




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Dean,
   
  Judomaster is by a wide margin my favourite "Charlton Action Hero" as well. This said, I like them all.
   
  Judomaster's costume I loved, all of it, right down to the "top knot" pony tail. 
   
  In his first appearance in Special War Series # 4, the top notch was his own hair, grown long and poked through the top of his mask. In all later issues, the top notch was part of his own mask and not his own hair.
   
  Do you have all eleven issues including Special War Series # 4-? I do.
   
  DC, in my opinion, ruined him by giving him a changed version of his partner's (Tiger's) costume. 
   
  The outfit of Tiger in the Silver Age Judomasters, was okay, but not, in my view, nearly as interesting as Judomaster's own costume. 
   
  What a great cast in that series: Judomaster, Tiger, Susikawa, JM's love interest (and this series was also very much a beautiful love story between these two), JM's cantankerous superior officer, Bushuri and his band, and what a rogue's gallery: The Cat, The Smiling Skull, The Mountain Storm, The Acrobat (secretly Susikawa's brother), so JM's lover's brother is JM's enemy-! Etc,etc. 
   
  And the writing and the art, by Frank Mclaughlin, was just great-! Even the colouring was sensational-!
   
  Anyone reading these words not familiar with Judomaster should really seek these out at Conventions or on ebay-! What a treat this series was and is-!
   
  I HATE what DC did with the character, and making Tiger into a villain. What bullshit.
   
  Oh- Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt was in Judomaster # 90, which was actually the third Judomaster issue, if you count Special War Series # 4 as the first issue....
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Judomaster gets the nod from me. Although he was isolated from the 
others during his Charlton period (and rarely seen since DC picked 
them up) Rip Jagger has always held a special place in my memory. His 
lack of superpowers is especially vivid given the war setting, and 
though most of the Action heroes were just men (Captain Atom being the 
exception) they most all had tools or gimmicks that made them special. 
Judomaster had his skills, skills one could only assume any good 
athelete could gain with training and effort. It made him a hero I 
might actually aspire to be one day.

Who is your favorite Action Hero?

Dean:)
		
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--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Judomaster gets the nod from me. Although he was isolated from
> the others during his Charlton period (and rarely seen since
DC
> picked them up) Rip Jagger has always held a special place in
my
> memory. His lack of superpowers is especially vivid given the
war setting, and though most of the Action heroes were just men
(Captain Atom
> being the exception) they most all had tools or gimmicks that
made them
> special. 
> Judomaster had his skills, skills one could only assume any
> good athelete could gain with training and effort. It made him
a
> hero I might actually aspire to be one day.
> 
> Who is your favorite Action Hero?
> 
> Dean:)
> 
> 
Loved Judomaster, I was taking Judo classes when he came out!

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Yeah. I'm lucky enough to have all the Judomaster appearances (I=20
think) in the Charlton originals and even the DC stuff, though I=20
might be missing some cameo here or there.=20

The first Judomasters I ever read were the ones where he gets Tiger=20
as a partner, and many years later I was able to fill in the saga.=20

It's strange that DC never did more with him, especially in regards=20
to his WWII setting. When all of DC's WWII history was revamped=20
after the Crisis, I'd have assumed Judomaster would've become a=20
larger part of it, but aside from some images little seems to have=20
been made of it.

He was the core of the L.A.W. series, and they did set up at least=20
the beginnings of an ongoing story for him in the modern world, but=20
we're probably just as well off that they didn't follow up. As cool=20
as it was to see Dick Giordano drawing him, I'd have been pretty=20
upset with some newbie with no sense of history taking a stab at the=20
Crimson Crusher!

Dean:)




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Dean,
   
  It would have been great to see Judomaster meeting Sgt Rock and company.
  Now THAT would have been cool. 
   
  It's always pis*** me off that DC ripped off Judomaster's costume, when they altered Katana's costume (from BM and The Outsiders), in recent years. 
   
  And then, in Justice League Quarterly, where they had a new guy called Judomaster in different togs altogether. I think he only had that one appearance. Thank gawd.
   
  Phil Latter

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Yeah. I'm lucky enough to have all the Judomaster appearances (I 
think) in the Charlton originals and even the DC stuff, though I 
might be missing some cameo here or there. 

The first Judomasters I ever read were the ones where he gets Tiger 
as a partner, and many years later I was able to fill in the saga. 

It's strange that DC never did more with him, especially in regards 
to his WWII setting. When all of DC's WWII history was revamped 
after the Crisis, I'd have assumed Judomaster would've become a 
larger part of it, but aside from some images little seems to have 
been made of it.

He was the core of the L.A.W. series, and they did set up at least 
the beginnings of an ongoing story for him in the modern world, but 
we're probably just as well off that they didn't follow up. As cool 
as it was to see Dick Giordano drawing him, I'd have been pretty 
upset with some newbie with no sense of history taking a stab at the 
Crimson Crusher!

Dean:)





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Judomaster and Easy Company meeting up would've been both cool and=20
ironically appropriate. If you look at that debut issue of Judomaster=20
you'll see a lot of swipes right out Sgt.Rock. :)

Dean




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For me, and I assume we are talking non-powered action heroes here, Mike
Mauser is my favorite.

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Actually I originally only thought of the Action Hero line-up scarfed=20
by DC and Dick Giordano, but Mike Mauser sure fits right into that mix=20
of extremely human heroes. :)

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I liked Mike Mauser and thought his gruff manner complimented E-Man's naive nature and Nova's more maternal ways.

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In a message dated 12/11/05 9:14:54 AM, CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com 
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> 
> Who is your favorite Action Hero?
> 
> Dean:)
> 
> 
Ah, a reason to de-lurk on this list...

That one is fairly easy depending on the style of Action hero we're 
discussing...

Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt if we're talking about the borderline superhuman.   
Everything about the character worked for me in my bygone youth.   I enjoyed 
Cannon, the cast his villains and the whole revamping of the Green Lama into 
what was then a workable modern day hero.   DC's efforts were a bit off the 
mark in some ways and I'd hope that whoever winds up with the rights to publish 
him again would try to bring him into the present day while balancing out those 
established elements that made the character work so well...

He wasn't quite the straight man with skills in the Judomaster vein or even 
in the same way as the Question, or tech reliant heroes like Peacemaker and 
Blue Beetle, he was somewhere between the fantastic and the ordinary and as a 
result he really stood out in the Charleton universe for me...

Under the more standard costumed heroes with powers and devices to give them 
an advantage, Captain Atom would be my first choice from Charleton.   The 
original Ditko interpretation as iconic to me as Gil Kane's Green Lantern, Carmine 
Infantino's Flash, and Kirby's Fantastic Four.   Captain Atom's one of those 
heroes you'd usually find in a DC comic and when I was a kid, I hoped in vain 
for Kane or Ditko getting a shot at doing the both of them in one comic (what 
did I know about comic company wars then? They were all heroes to me who could 
meet up).   Captain Atom stacked up to GL back in the day and that was pretty 
good all things considered...

In the quirky hero category it would be a tough one with Mike Mauser, E-man 
and Nova easily in the race.   In the end though, my vote would go to ROG 2000 
who is one of my all time favorite characters in comics period.   Byrne was 
still hungry then and he worked a little more while his ego began its growth to 
planet sized proportions.   Nick Cuti's writing is what really made ROG click 
for me and made it a fun read where the hero wasn't terribly serious...

It helped that Howard the Duck was making the rounds during those years 
too...

Granted ROG 2000 wasn't in the actual Action Hero line, but since he was a 
Charleton hero, I figured he was a safe bet...

If he isn't, then insert Nightshade here since E-man, Nova and Mike wouldn't 
really count either...

Engage Lurking Device!

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Well said!  It was a great ensemble cast of characters.

Rome
 
 
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I liked Mike Mauser and thought his gruff manner complimented E-Man's naive
nature and Nova's more maternal ways.
 
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Mauser is my favorite.
 
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Hi everyone! Yesterday I finally located Issue #5 of E-man at That's Entertainment in Worcester, MA and purchased it.
  I now have all 10 issues of Charlton's original run of E-Man!
  ANyone else out there have any Charlton Comics they want to sell or trade?
  I liked Doomsday +1 and thing Rog 2000 is a great character.


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Would it be possible to scan those and send or post to the group?  Pretty Please.

Jessica Hamel <quickymartgodess@yahoo.com> wrote:  Hi everyone! Yesterday I finally located Issue #5 of E-man at That's Entertainment in Worcester, MA and purchased it.
  I now have all 10 issues of Charlton's original run of E-Man!
  ANyone else out there have any Charlton Comics they want to sell or trade?
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I enjoyed Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt, a lot.  Pete Morisi's work was off the beaten path, he was a good solid artist.  And I enjoyed Ditko's Blue Beetle, it was a concept very close to Spider-Man, drawn tightly compared to Ditko's later work.
   
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ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Judomaster gets the nod from me. Although he was isolated from the 
others during his Charlton period (and rarely seen since DC picked 
them up) Rip Jagger has always held a special place in my memory. His 
lack of superpowers is especially vivid given the war setting, and 
though most of the Action heroes were just men (Captain Atom being the 
exception) they most all had tools or gimmicks that made them special. 
Judomaster had his skills, skills one could only assume any good 
athelete could gain with training and effort. It made him a hero I 
might actually aspire to be one day.

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     Well....I don't think that "rip jagger", below, should even be allowed to HAVE a comment on this forum. 
   
  I mean, c'mon, 'rip jagger', let's face it: I think your comments smack a little bit like 'conflict of interest', don'tcha think-?
   
  DESPITE the fact....that I agree with you-!
    
   
  Phil 'Tige' Latter
   
  PS: and say....you any relation to Mick Jagger-?
   
  SNIP

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Judomaster gets the nod from me. Although he was isolated from the 
others during his Charlton period (and rarely seen since DC picked 
them up) Rip Jagger has always held a special place in my memory. His 
lack of superpowers is especially vivid given the war setting, and 
though most of the Action heroes were just men (Captain Atom being the 
exception) they most all had tools or gimmicks that made them special. 
Judomaster had his skills, skills one could only assume any good 
athelete could gain with training and effort. It made him a hero I 
might actually aspire to be one day.

Who is your favorite Action Hero?

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Hey man respect your elders! I am after all part of the "Greatest=20
Generation"...despite what DC did to me in that Shangri-La place they=20
stashed me for so very long. :)


Rip (Dean ) Jagger :)




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Hey Rip not to worry. You have the coolest comics costume (in my opinion, the original, that is, not that 'Johnny DC' - come lately white garb) of all time, a hot lady in Susikawa, and the finest supporting cast going. Like Bushuri and Tiger. Oh, and what was Rip Jagger's superior officer's name again-?
   
  Man, that series SHOULD have been good for at LEAST a couple hundred issues. What a darn shame-!
   
  My warm regards to The Scarlet Smasher. Also known as The Crimson Crusher-!
   
  Best, 
   
  Phil Latter
   
  

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Hey man respect your elders! I am after all part of the "Greatest 
Generation"...despite what DC did to me in that Shangri-La place they 
stashed me for so very long. :)


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Hi Charles! I read some of the First series of E-man and I even got the 1st issue of First from my friend Kyle who gave me most of my E-Man collection.
  I really did not like First's series the characters were not the cute funny ones from Charlston it is like the writers went off in a different direction. Before they were funny in a cute way now they were not so funny in a sarcastic way. I mean I like sarcasm but it just was not the characters I liked in Charlton. The flavor of the series seemed to be missing I think that is true for a lot of Charlton Characters when DC picked them up.
   
  -Jess

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> Hi everyone! Yesterday I finally located Issue #5 of E-man at 
That's Entertainment in Worcester, MA and purchased it.
>   I now have all 10 issues of Charlton's original run of E-Man!
>   ANyone else out there have any Charlton Comics they want to sell 
or trade?
>   I liked Doomsday +1 and thing Rog 2000 is a great character.
> 
> 
> Jessica "Jesse" Hamel - The Convenience Store Godess
> 
>

Congrats, Jessica! Glad you finally got the whole set. Have you 
picked up all the First Comics E-Man issues yet? Oh and there's an 
issue of the fanzine Charlton Bullseye that has the entire 
unpublished last Charlton issue of E-Man you should probably track 
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Shit, Charlton rights to E-Man are as complicated and weird as DC has made the Charlton characters they picked up.

Michael Ambrose <charlton@flash.net> wrote:  The E-Man rights are a little complicated. According to Joe, First  
Comics acquired the rights to the original Charlton issues when they  
were doing the second (1980s) series that Nick wrote only the last  
two issues of. Joe owns all rights to the character and any new  
stories done thereafter. To harmonize the marketing situation,  
whoever it was at First who acquired the Charlton rights markets  
Joe's rights simultaneously, so it's a little complicated. My take is  
that if a book collection of the original Charlton 10 is ever going  
to appear, it'll have to be from that person in concert with Joe.  
Nick Cuti doesn't own any part of E-Man, but according to Nick, Joe  
shares equally with Nick any rewards from the character.

Mike Ambrose


> lordshazam@yahoo.com writes:
>
>> It's really too bad that those original  E-Man's aren't in a trade
>>
> collection.  Could
>
>> such a thing even be done?  Who has the copyright to  E-Man?
>>
>
> Joe Staton !
>
> (i think Nick Cuti as well, but not as sure of  his co-ownership)
>
> steven rowe
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I agree it just seems like what I have seen of the First series the E-Man & Nova cuteness was gone and the characters were not like the Charlton series.
  I hear that the writer of the Charlton series did work briefly on the First
  series. If I can I will pick up those issues but to be honest I think E-man 
  was born and died in the Charlton series.

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<quickymartgodess@y...> wrote:
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> Hi Charles! I read some of the First series of E-man and I even got 
the 1st issue of First from my friend Kyle who gave me most of my E-
Man collection.
>   I really did not like First's series the characters were not the 
cute funny ones from Charlston it is like the writers went off in a 
different direction. Before they were funny in a cute way now they 
were not so funny in a sarcastic way. I mean I like sarcasm but it 
just was not the characters I liked in Charlton. The flavor of the 
series seemed to be missing I think that is true for a lot of 
Charlton Characters when DC picked them up.
>    
>   -Jess
>   
   Yes, that's an unfortunate side effect of the 'grim and gritty'  
post Watchmen/Dark Knight approach to comics. Most of the fun has 
been stripped out of a lot of the characters and the charm as well. 
The original E-Man was always a fun character. The one good thing 
First did was produce an E-Man T-shirt, orange with the big yellow 
E=MC on it. Sadly I lost mine when moving to a new place a while 
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Ditto.  I started collecting the First series on E-man, but dropped it.  It
just wasn't the same.  Charlton had some very unique characters and some
very unique writers, even though many of them went to Marvel or DC, there
just wasn't the same witing "finesse", if I may.  It seemed to me there was
a whole different attitude at Charlton, that allowed thier characters to be
fun, entertaining and interesting.  I can't exactly place my finger on it,
but there was a difference.  Look at all their characters as they did them,
then as the other companies did them.  Do you see what I mean?

John Packer


On 12/19/05, Jessica Hamel <quickymartgodess@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I agree it just seems like what I have seen of the First series the E-Man
> & Nova cuteness was gone and the characters were not like the Charlton
> series.
> I hear that the writer of the Charlton series did work briefly on the
> First
> series. If I can I will pick up those issues but to be honest I think
> E-man
> was born and died in the Charlton series.
>
> thongor1 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> --- In dellandgoldkeycomicclub@yahoogroups.com, Jessica Hamel
> <quickymartgodess@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Charles! I read some of the First series of E-man and I even got
> the 1st issue of First from my friend Kyle who gave me most of my E-
> Man collection.
> >   I really did not like First's series the characters were not the
> cute funny ones from Charlston it is like the writers went off in a
> different direction. Before they were funny in a cute way now they
> were not so funny in a sarcastic way. I mean I like sarcasm but it
> just was not the characters I liked in Charlton. The flavor of the
> series seemed to be missing I think that is true for a lot of
> Charlton Characters when DC picked them up.
> >
> >   -Jess
> >
>   Yes, that's an unfortunate side effect of the 'grim and gritty'
> post Watchmen/Dark Knight approach to comics. Most of the fun has
> been stripped out of a lot of the characters and the charm as well.
> The original E-Man was always a fun character. The one good thing
> First did was produce an E-Man T-shirt, orange with the big yellow
> E=MC on it. Sadly I lost mine when moving to a new place a while
> back.
>
>
>
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Yes, I see.  It's why, despite the fact that there were some good stories featuring the Question, or Captain Atom, that the DC produced stories were never as satisfying as the Charlton stories were.
   
       Allen Smith

John Packer <johnpacker2000@gmail.com> wrote:
  Ditto.  I started collecting the First series on E-man, but dropped it.  It
just wasn't the same.  Charlton had some very unique characters and some
very unique writers, even though many of them went to Marvel or DC, there
just wasn't the same witing "finesse", if I may.  It seemed to me there was
a whole different attitude at Charlton, that allowed thier characters to be
fun, entertaining and interesting.  I can't exactly place my finger on it,
but there was a difference.  Look at all their characters as they did them,
then as the other companies did them.  Do you see what I mean?

John Packer


On 12/19/05, Jessica Hamel <quickymartgodess@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I agree it just seems like what I have seen of the First series the E-Man
> & Nova cuteness was gone and the characters were not like the Charlton
> series.
> I hear that the writer of the Charlton series did work briefly on the
> First
> series. If I can I will pick up those issues but to be honest I think
> E-man
> was born and died in the Charlton series.
>
> thongor1 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> --- In dellandgoldkeycomicclub@yahoogroups.com, Jessica Hamel
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> >
> > Hi Charles! I read some of the First series of E-man and I even got
> the 1st issue of First from my friend Kyle who gave me most of my E-
> Man collection.
> >   I really did not like First's series the characters were not the
> cute funny ones from Charlston it is like the writers went off in a
> different direction. Before they were funny in a cute way now they
> were not so funny in a sarcastic way. I mean I like sarcasm but it
> just was not the characters I liked in Charlton. The flavor of the
> series seemed to be missing I think that is true for a lot of
> Charlton Characters when DC picked them up.
> >
> >   -Jess
> >
>   Yes, that's an unfortunate side effect of the 'grim and gritty'
> post Watchmen/Dark Knight approach to comics. Most of the fun has
> been stripped out of a lot of the characters and the charm as well.
> The original E-Man was always a fun character. The one good thing
> First did was produce an E-Man T-shirt, orange with the big yellow
> E=MC on it. Sadly I lost mine when moving to a new place a while
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The First series was a welcome comic at the time, because it was just=20
good to see E-Man still kicking and with co-creator Joe Staton on the=20
job it was a very hopeful sign. But the writer Marty Pasko, who had=20
worked with Staton on Plastic Man for DC, was a different writer than=20
Nick Cuti and he gave E-Man a harsher satiric tone, and a more inside-
joke feel. It didn't work, and as many here have said, the=20
pleasantness of the original was somewhat washed away.=20

Dean :)




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The thing that makes the Charlton Action Heroes books work is charm.=20
There's a sense of no-frills, a feel of reality that's fundamentally=20
missing in the much more expansive DC Universe. In the Charltonverse,=20
Captain Atom is the biggest of kahunas (with the exception of Dan=20
Garret's Blue Beetle), his powers dwarf everyone, and the other Action=20
Heroes are mostly humans battling thugs, spies, and minor mystics.=20
It's all bare knuckles and rough and tumble. In the DCU, the action is=20
more superheroic and less just-plain-heroic and that hurts the tone of=20
the tales.

Dean :)=20




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..., and a new one to me! , of something I like , the comic-book cover=20
where - deep breath - there is a minature reproduction of a comic-book=20
cover within the field of the cover scene .
  Especially nifty when the details of the original cover - price ,=20
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  Another Harvey nifty was a " HARVEY HITS " G. I. Juniors issue .
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did one , too !!!!!!!!! Neal Adams did the new part ?.........







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I couldn't really begin to count them. There are I think 24 issues of=20
an actual Blue Beetle comic. BB also was a key part of the Justice=20
League appearing in that title off and on for nearly a decade. Other=20
titles I can think of that he's been in are Extreme Justice, Birds of=20
Prey and the Charlton heroes jam the LAW.

Dean :)




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Subject: Re: Does anyone know how many dc comics the blue beetle has appeared in ?
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And lets not forget his first DC Appearance's along with his=20
fellow 'Earth-Four' Action Heroes in the 12 part Crisis of Infinite=20
Earths maxi-Series between April 1985-March 1986

-Nigel


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> I couldn't really begin to count them. There are I think 24 issues of=20
> an actual Blue Beetle comic. BB also was a key part of the Justice=20
> League appearing in that title off and on for nearly a decade. Other=20
> titles I can think of that he's been in are Extreme Justice, Birds of=20
> Prey and the Charlton heroes jam the LAW.
>=20
> Dean :)
>





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This link should do it:
http://www.dcuguide.com/chronology.php?name=3Dbluebeetle2




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Hi does anyone know if Nightshade's origin ws ever finished=20
THANK YOU & GOD BLESS ,GUY=20




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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "GUY" <sparkmang@h...> wrote:
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> Hi does anyone know if Nightshade's origin ws ever finished=20
> THANK YOU & GOD BLESS ,GUY
>

If you mean the origin in the original Charlton Comics, no.

Capt Atom was cancelled with #89, and charlton never completed that=20
storyline.

When DC used the character in Suicide Squad, they did try to complete=20
the origin, but of course this was with different writers, who took the=20
character in a different direction (even tying in Enchantress into the=20
mix).

Michael Brown





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Just one correction, if ya don't mind: the unpublished Charlton Comics' Captain Atom # 89 was later, finally published, Ditko's pencils having been inked by John Byrne, published in two parts, in the fanzine The Charlton Bullseye # 1 and # 2 (vol.1), not to be confused with the later colour comic book title of the same name.
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
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> Hi does anyone know if Nightshade's origin ws ever finished 
> THANK YOU & GOD BLESS ,GUY
>

If you mean the origin in the original Charlton Comics, no.
Capt Atom was cancelled with #89, and charlton never completed that storyline.

When DC used the character in Suicide Squad, they did try to complete the origin, but of course this was with different writers, who took the 
character in a different direction (even tying in Enchantress into the 
mix).

Michael Brown
		
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Hi i can't recall witch Charlton group i got a message asking about a=20
fanzine that had unpublished dc art work ,but it is Comic Book Artist=20
#9. The Charlton issue.Hope this helps  THANK YOU & GOD BLESS, GUY=20=20=20





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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
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> Just one correction, if ya don't mind: the unpublished Charlton=20
Comics' Captain Atom # 89 was later, finally published, Ditko's=20
pencils having been inked by John Byrne, published in two parts, in=20
the fanzine The Charlton Bullseye # 1 and # 2 (vol.1), not to be=20
confused with the later colour comic book title of the same name.
>=20

Uh, sorry, but Captain Atom #89 was the last issue published by=20
Charlton.

What they did was publish the Captain Atom story intended for #90.=20=20
But it did NOT include the Nightshade backup series, which is what I=20
was refering to.  It was in this backup series they they were=20
exploring Nightshade's origins.

Michael
=20=20=20
>=20
> Michael Brown <emb021@m...> wrote:
>   --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "GUY" <sparkmang@h...>=20
wrote:
> >
> > Hi does anyone know if Nightshade's origin ws ever finished=20
> > THANK YOU & GOD BLESS ,GUY
> >
>=20
> If you mean the origin in the original Charlton Comics, no.
> Capt Atom was cancelled with #89, and charlton never completed that=20
storyline.
>=20
> When DC used the character in Suicide Squad, they did try to=20
complete the origin, but of course this was with different writers,=20
who took the=20
> character in a different direction (even tying in Enchantress into=20
the=20
> mix).
>=20
> Michael Brown
>=20=09=09





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Michael,
   
  I checked and right you are-! 
   
  It was # 90 that was wrapped up in The Charlton Bullseye fanzine # 1 and # 2, not # 89.
   
  (I have all the Cap Atoms and all the Charlton Bullseyes.)
   
  A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story from the cancelled Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?
   
  (We know it wasn't published.) I'm just wondering if it was ever drawn, and then, NEVER published....
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
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<chromium_foil@y...> wrote:
>
> Just one correction, if ya don't mind: the unpublished Charlton 
Comics' Captain Atom # 89 was later, finally published, Ditko's 
pencils having been inked by John Byrne, published in two parts, in 
the fanzine The Charlton Bullseye # 1 and # 2 (vol.1), not to be 
confused with the later colour comic book title of the same name.
  
Uh, sorry, but Captain Atom #89 was the last issue published by 
Charlton.

What they did was publish the Captain Atom story intended for #90.  
But it did NOT include the Nightshade backup series, which is what I was refering to.  It was in this backup series they they were 
exploring Nightshade's origins.

Michael

		
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
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> Michael,
>=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20
>   A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story=20
from the cancelled Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?
>=20=20=20=20
>   (We know it wasn't published.) I'm just wondering if it was ever=20
drawn, and then, NEVER published....
>=20=20=20=20

I think that if there was an unpublished Jim Aparo story out there, we=20
would have heard of it.  It seems that the unpublished Charlton Action=20
Heroes stuff is known.=20=20

At best, we might be lucky and the story was written, but I doubt drawn.

MB




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Subject: Ditko's Blue Beetle #5 from 1968 up on eBay now - ends tomorrow night...
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I have a really nice copy of the final Steve Ditko issue of Blue=20
Beetle (#5) up on eBay right now.  The auctions ends late tomorrow=20
night.

The item # is:

6601866549

I also have a bunch of GA stuff up - mostly westerns and romance=20
comics, but I do have a copy of Plastic Man #7 from 1947 available (I=20
sold #8 last week for about $25.00).  If you're interested, see my=20
other auctions...

Many more GA and SA comics will be coming soon (as well as lots of=20
later ones).

thanks and happy hunting,
Jim





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Subject: oh yeah, some really nice Charlton GA romance comics too...
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Oops, I forgot about these - they may interest you as well.

ROMANTIC STORY #25 - Aug. 1954
6601866782=20

AND=20

SWEETHEARTS V2#25 - Aug. 1954
6601866853=20

~Jim




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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:

>   A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story from th=
e cancelled=20
Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?

Since #90 was a full-sized story with Captain Atom and Nightshade
together fighting The Ghost, there would not have been a Nighthshade
back-up until #91 (at best).  Since they were published bi-monthly it's=20
likely it wasn't more than a thought in someone's mind.

BTW I have a pdf file in which I colored the first 4 pages of that,=20
BLUE BEETLE #6 and the Toth Question story for samples. I can upload
it to the Files, or email it directly to people if they'd like to see it.




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Subject: Can I see the colour PDF Blue Beetle # 6 please-?
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I would VERY MUCH like to see that colour version of Blue Beetle # 6, please-! Can you kindly flip it to me-?
   
  WOW.
   
  Phil Latter

drumore1 <drew.moore@mac.com> wrote:
  --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wrote:

>   A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story from the cancelled 
Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?

Since #90 was a full-sized story with Captain Atom and Nightshade
together fighting The Ghost, there would not have been a Nighthshade
back-up until #91 (at best).  Since they were published bi-monthly it's 
likely it wasn't more than a thought in someone's mind.

BTW I have a pdf file in which I colored the first 4 pages of that, 
BLUE BEETLE #6 and the Toth Question story for samples. I can upload
it to the Files, or email it directly to people if they'd like to see it.





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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Can I see the colour PDF Blue Beetle # 6 please-?
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I'm interested in a color version too.

Ric


On 2/7/06, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> I would VERY MUCH like to see that colour version of Blue Beetle # 6,
> please-! Can you kindly flip it to me-?
>
>   WOW.
>
>   Phil Latter
>
> drumore1 <drew.moore@mac.com> wrote:
>   --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...>
> wrote:
>
> >   A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story from
> the cancelled
> Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?
>
> Since #90 was a full-sized story with Captain Atom and Nightshade
> together fighting The Ghost, there would not have been a Nighthshade
> back-up until #91 (at best).  Since they were published bi-monthly it's
> likely it wasn't more than a thought in someone's mind.
>
> BTW I have a pdf file in which I colored the first 4 pages of that,
> BLUE BEETLE #6 and the Toth Question story for samples. I can upload
> it to the Files, or email it directly to people if they'd like to see it.
>
>
>
>
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There doesn't seem to be enough room in the files section.=20
(It's about a 3-4 meg file -- good enough to print out too).

Phil -- I'm not able to view your email address through yahoo.
Send me a note and I'll forward it t you.

Same for anyone else, if you want to contact me directly.

(I should clarify, it's the first 4 pages of EACH story --=20
just haven't had the free time to finish them all up)




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Try doing a yousendit.com for the file to the group, that way everyone that
wants it can see.

On 2/8/06, drumore1 <drew.moore@mac.com> wrote:
>
> There doesn't seem to be enough room in the files section.
> (It's about a 3-4 meg file -- good enough to print out too).
>
> Phil -- I'm not able to view your email address through yahoo.
> Send me a note and I'll forward it t you.
>
> Same for anyone else, if you want to contact me directly.
>
> (I should clarify, it's the first 4 pages of EACH story --
> just haven't had the free time to finish them all up)
>
>
>
>
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Sure.
   
  I'm at chromium_foil@yahoo.ca
   
  Note .ca not .com
   
  I sure would like to see that Blue Beetle # 6 unpublished in colour....
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

drumore1 <drew.moore@mac.com> wrote:
  There doesn't seem to be enough room in the files section. 
(It's about a 3-4 meg file -- good enough to print out too).

Phil -- I'm not able to view your email address through yahoo. Send me a note and I'll forward it t you.
Same for anyone else, if you want to contact me directly.

(I should clarify, it's the first 4 pages of EACH story -- just haven't had the free time to finish them all up)



		
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My heart skipped a beat. I'll love to get the file emailed too.

Thanks in advance.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
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> I would VERY MUCH like to see that colour version of Blue Beetle #
6, please-! Can you kindly flip it to me-?
>=20=20=20=20
>   WOW.
>=20=20=20=20
>   Phil Latter
>=20
> drumore1 <drew.moore@...> wrote:
>   --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter
<chromium_foil@> wrote:
>=20
> >   A longshot but, is it even known if the Nightshade backup story
from the cancelled=20
> Captain Atom Charlton series was ever drawn-?
>=20
> Since #90 was a full-sized story with Captain Atom and Nightshade
> together fighting The Ghost, there would not have been a Nighthshade
> back-up until #91 (at best).  Since they were published bi-monthly it's=20
> likely it wasn't more than a thought in someone's mind.
>=20
> BTW I have a pdf file in which I colored the first 4 pages of that,=20
> BLUE BEETLE #6 and the Toth Question story for samples. I can upload
> it to the Files, or email it directly to people if they'd like to
see it.
>=20
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Hi i for one would love to see the color Blue Beetle and Question=20
stories.If you will you can e-mail it to me at sparkmang@hotmail.com
THANK YOU & GOD BLESS, GUY=20




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Hi Guy,
I emailed it to you a few days ago, at the address on the yahoo site.
Let me know if you didnt get it

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> Hi i for one would love to see the color Blue Beetle and Question=20
> stories.If you will you can e-mail it to me at sparkmang@...
> THANK YOU & GOD BLESS, GUY
>





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http://www.stx-superhero-report-marvel.com/BB_EC.html

I just got in my dvd collection of The Best Of The Electric Company.
I was happy that the included three episodes of Spiderman and one
episode of Blue Beetle.  I have some images on my website above.

Remember that this is the ONLY live action appearance of ay Blue
Beetle, even if it is a silly appearance.





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> I just got in my dvd collection of The Best Of The Electric Company.
> I was happy that the included three episodes of Spiderman and one
> episode of Blue Beetle.=20

I've read some speculation that THIS character is the reason Blue Beetle=20
can't appear on JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED.  :-(




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is joe gill still working in comics?







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In a message dated 2/18/2006 8:19:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
usomohoben@yahoo.com writes:

>is  joe gill still working in comics?



no.  
did a few jobs after the end of charlton, but not  much


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Subject: Blue Beetle V3#54 from Feb./Mar. 1966 up on eBay right now - ends tomorrow night
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I  have a nice copy of Blue Beetle V3#54 from Feb./Mar. 1966 up
on eBay right now; it ends in less than 24 hours though.

It is item #:

6605608505=20=20

I also have some other comics, magazines and fanzines up right now
that end in a week, as well as, some that end tomorrow night.  Look at
my other auctions if you're interested...

happy hunting,
Jim





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I may bid on it myself Jim. How are things in the Cook household-? I'd love to hear from you-!
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

splitxam <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  I  have a nice copy of Blue Beetle V3#54 from Feb./Mar. 1966 up
on eBay right now; it ends in less than 24 hours though.

It is item #:

6605608505  

I also have some other comics, magazines and fanzines up right now
that end in a week, as well as, some that end tomorrow night.  Look at
my other auctions if you're interested...

happy hunting,
Jim






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ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


Can anyone tell me where this page was published originally?

Thanks!

Alan Goldsmith








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I have to admit that,as a rather cynical person I saw Seven Soldiers and Infinite Crisis not to mention the OMAC Project,Rann-Thanager War,etc.,as attempts to squeeze every penny from loyal readers.
   
  So,when DC begins distancing its super hero titles from the events in Infinite Crisis when that series is currently only at #5 [of 7] it seems to confirm the worse fears of a cynic.  ONE YEAR LATER is a sudden leap of 12 months indicating that Infinite Crisis will be quite far from a clear,defining series.  However,then comes 52....a 52 part weekly series taking,obviously,a year to run and,we are told,"filling in the gaps from Infinite Crisis"
   
  A host of writers and artists are involved.
   
  Now,let's get this right:Seven Soldiers =1 issue,several mini series then a final single issue.  Rann-Thanagar War....series has a dead end -hey,a special to finish it off!  In fact,there were several series with dead-ends resulting in "one off specials" concluding the series.
   
  And,as many long time comic shop customers are cancelling orders in the UK shops I've spoken to,and many of these retailers are declaring declining sales because their customers feel they are being "ripped off",there seems to be a far from overwhelming positive reaction to what DC is doing.
   
  And now we have 52.
   
  I'm sure everyone has their own opinion but,with comic prices rising and the market being flooded:how long will it be before the fans leave titles and DC takes a bloody nose for what is,lets face it,not making money [as businesses are meant to do] but simply greedily exploiting its fans?
   
  Interested in hearing what you all think.
   
  Cheers,
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Here's the press release straight from Newsarama:

"E-Man, the energy being from outer space who makes his home on=20
earth as a super-hero, returns to comics this September from Digital=20
Webbing Press. Created by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton for Charlton=20
Comics in 1973, E-Man has always been a fan favorite, marked by=20
equal amounts of action, mystery and humor.

E-Man enjoyed a 10 issue run with Charlton followed by 25 issues=20
from First Comics in the 80's. Digital Webbing will release a one-
shot E-Man this fall by series creators Cuti and Staton.=20

E-Man will be joined by his girlfriend, Nova Kane, who developed=20
energy powers herself early in the initial Charlton series. The one-
shot will also feature E-Man's arch-enemy, The Brain from Sirius.=20

"We're pleased to bring E-Man back in all-new adventures. He's=20
always been a favorite character of mine," said Ed Dukeshire,=20
publisher of Digital Webbing Press. "And to have the original=20
creators, Nick Cuti and Joe Staton, doing the honors is a real=20
treat."=20

In addition to E-Man, Cuti has written "Captain Cosmos, The Last=20
Starveyer;" "Moonie, Moonchild the Starbabe;" and "Michael Mauser,=20
Private Eye."

Staton, an Inkpot and Eisner Award winner, has drawn Batman, Green=20
Lantern, Plastic Man and, currently, Scooby-Doo. He served as Art=20
Director at First Comics.

Digital Webbing entered the publishing arena in 2001 with "Digital=20
Webbing Presents." The anthology showcases a combination of aspiring=20
and established talent. In addition to Digital Webbing Presents, DW=20
Press publishes "Zombie Highway" and "BloodRayne," based on the=20
popular video game.=20

The full-color E-Man one-shot will be solicited in the July issue of=20
Previews for a September release."


All I can say is....Wahooo!:)






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I bought into the Infinite Crisis experience, but as you say it seems=20
that everytime you buy one comic you "need" two more to complete the=20
story. I've followed it pretty closely so far, but I'm not going to=20
follow "52". It's just too long with too little payoff. None of the=20
spin-off Crisis series interests me save for the limited "Freedom=20
Fighters". When Crisis is done (if it ever is) then I'll be getting=20
about the same number of DC books I currently am, maybe fewer. As we=20
approaced the OYL thing it seemed clear to me that many books went=20
into a mark-step mode that made for some dull stretched out stories.=20
And even more frustrating are the inevitable delays from talent not=20
hitting deadlines. In a cross-company event this is death.

So Crisis has been just okay. I'm on board until the end of the=20
current seven issue series and maybe a few more, but then I'm cutting=20
it off.=20

Dean





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I'm looking forward to this too, Dean.
   
  Warm Regards,
   
  Phil Latter

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Here's the press release straight from Newsarama:

"E-Man, the energy being from outer space who makes his home on 
earth as a super-hero, returns to comics this September from Digital 
Webbing Press. Created by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton for Charlton 
Comics in 1973, E-Man has always been a fan favorite, marked by 
equal amounts of action, mystery and humor.

E-Man enjoyed a 10 issue run with Charlton followed by 25 issues 
from First Comics in the 80's. Digital Webbing will release a one-
shot E-Man this fall by series creators Cuti and Staton. 

E-Man will be joined by his girlfriend, Nova Kane, who developed 
energy powers herself early in the initial Charlton series. The one-
shot will also feature E-Man's arch-enemy, The Brain from Sirius. 

"We're pleased to bring E-Man back in all-new adventures. He's 
always been a favorite character of mine," said Ed Dukeshire, 
publisher of Digital Webbing Press. "And to have the original 
creators, Nick Cuti and Joe Staton, doing the honors is a real 
treat." 

In addition to E-Man, Cuti has written "Captain Cosmos, The Last 
Starveyer;" "Moonie, Moonchild the Starbabe;" and "Michael Mauser, 
Private Eye."

Staton, an Inkpot and Eisner Award winner, has drawn Batman, Green 
Lantern, Plastic Man and, currently, Scooby-Doo. He served as Art 
Director at First Comics.

Digital Webbing entered the publishing arena in 2001 with "Digital 
Webbing Presents." The anthology showcases a combination of aspiring 
and established talent. In addition to Digital Webbing Presents, DW 
Press publishes "Zombie Highway" and "BloodRayne," based on the 
popular video game. 

The full-color E-Man one-shot will be solicited in the July issue of 
Previews for a September release."


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It's a shame that E-Man couldn't be published on a regular basis.  Now, if enough people buy this book...!
   
       Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
  I'm looking forward to this too, Dean.
   
  Warm Regards,
   
  Phil Latter

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
  Here's the press release straight from Newsarama:

"E-Man, the energy being from outer space who makes his home on 
earth as a super-hero, returns to comics this September from Digital 
Webbing Press. Created by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton for Charlton 
Comics in 1973, E-Man has always been a fan favorite, marked by 
equal amounts of action, mystery and humor.

E-Man enjoyed a 10 issue run with Charlton followed by 25 issues 
from First Comics in the 80's. Digital Webbing will release a one-
shot E-Man this fall by series creators Cuti and Staton. 

E-Man will be joined by his girlfriend, Nova Kane, who developed 
energy powers herself early in the initial Charlton series. The one-
shot will also feature E-Man's arch-enemy, The Brain from Sirius. 

"We're pleased to bring E-Man back in all-new adventures. He's 
always been a favorite character of mine," said Ed Dukeshire, 
publisher of Digital Webbing Press. "And to have the original 
creators, Nick Cuti and Joe Staton, doing the honors is a real 
treat." 

In addition to E-Man, Cuti has written "Captain Cosmos, The Last 
Starveyer;" "Moonie, Moonchild the Starbabe;" and "Michael Mauser, 
Private Eye."

Staton, an Inkpot and Eisner Award winner, has drawn Batman, Green 
Lantern, Plastic Man and, currently, Scooby-Doo. He served as Art 
Director at First Comics.

Digital Webbing entered the publishing arena in 2001 with "Digital 
Webbing Presents." The anthology showcases a combination of aspiring 
and established talent. In addition to Digital Webbing Presents, DW 
Press publishes "Zombie Highway" and "BloodRayne," based on the 
popular video game. 

The full-color E-Man one-shot will be solicited in the July issue of 
Previews for a September release."


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Hi There!
  I was wondering whether any group member would be attending this year's U=
K comic convention in Bristol on May 13th/14th?  Might be good to meet up?
=20=20=20
  I'm NOT going to do ,as in previous years,lots of free publicity on my we=
b sites or groups as basically,I get nothing out of it -not even free ticke=
ts!!  What I've done is attached the flyer so you'll see ROY THOMAS is atte=
nding as well as Howard Chaykin and numerous others.  It's [with ticket pos=
tage included] only =A311 for two days so its a cheap weekend of entertainm=
ent!
=20=20=20
  Let me know if you are going.
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  Cheers,
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I like the new home page eman art a lot. Who did it??

Kendra Stewart





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Welcome back, sweetie.
   
  I just flipped my phone # to you in a private email. I've moved, but the phone number has stayed the same. 
   
  Give me a call when next you're in Halifax. We haven't had a get together in a long, long time. 
   
  Now then: what the heck were you doing in Equador-?
   
  I can't wait to hear this story. Call me collect.
   
  Hugs and kisses, 
   
  As you used to say.
   
  Soooo, gorgeous, are there comics produced in Equador-?
   
  Phil Latter
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  Canada

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I like the new home page eman art a lot. Who did it??

Kendra Stewart






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Greetings:

In answer to your question: I will pick up the first issue of the
comic myself. Just to see if it measures up to the original series and
see if the story lines are still there.
Love the original story and the way First Comics picked up on the
story. It was lost once First Comics finished though, and there have
been two disapointment since then.
If they can tell stories of E-Man back to when Charlton Comic had the
character, then the comic might be ok.

Jasper







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You should definitely seek out the Comico and Alpha versions of E-Man,=20
as both Cuti and Staton do a grand job of returning E-Man to his=20
Charlton essence. I'm confident this new one will also have the=20
necessary charm.

Dean





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In recent months I've found a few, mostly war books like Fightin'=20
Marines, but I've also found some good funny books like George Wildman=20
Popeyes.=20

What have you all found out there?

Dean





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hunk

--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In recent months I've found a few, mostly war books
> like Fightin' 
> Marines, but I've also found some good funny books
> like George Wildman 
> Popeyes. 
> 
> What have you all found out there?
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hunk is GREAT fun and I wish I had more issues than the two or three=20
in my collection! I think that the earlier issues of Charlton's=20
Dennis the Menace-like characters were really good. I enjoyed Hunk,=20
Li'l Genius, Li'l Tomboy et al for almost every issue. Later on, they=20
tend to become more formulaic.

Returning to the topic, I buy dozens of Charltons each month. I've=20
more or less exhausted the 70s/80s stuff, so now I'm mostly buying=20
50s and 60s material. Now on my desk waiting to be read: Texas=20
Rangers in Action, Li'l Genius, Rock & Rollo, Kid Montana, Attack,=20
Masked Raider, Billy the Kid, War, Atomic Mouse, and some more stuff=20
I can't think of right now.

best,
Ramon

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> hunk
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> > Popeyes.=20
> >=20
> > What have you all found out there?
> >=20
> > Dean




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Well, I for one can't WAIT to get this issue in my greedy little hands!=20
This issue has been a year in the making, and judging by the issue=20
description, it's going to be the best one yet.

Can you believe no one sat down with Joe Gill until now for a lengthy,=20
decades-spanning interview with Joe Gill?!?

(And seeing my article on the Charlton text pieces in print will also=20
be something I have been eagerly looking forward to, I must admit!)

So order your copy, all!

Best,
Ramon




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You and me both. Joe Gill is my all-time favorite writer, a man so=20
prolific I just knew as a kid he had to be a "house name" and not a=20
real guy at all. When I learned differently, my whole understanding of=20
professinal writing changed for the better. Here was a guy who could=20
spin stories like a machine gun, some better than others, but all of=20
them competent.

Dean





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Your dedication is awesome. I bow before your greater Charlton=20
knowledge. Here I am still trying to get together a complete Fightin'=20
5 set and maybe start on Ghostly Tales!

I'm a piker!

Dean :)





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Dean,

As I posted on Charlton-1 group recently, (I think that is where I=20
posted it) --- my most recent Charlton acquisition was the very=20
first appearance of Gunmaster, from Six Gun Heroes # 57,from June=20
1960.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...>=20
wrote:
>
> In recent months I've found a few, mostly war books like Fightin'=20
> Marines, but I've also found some good funny books like George=20
Wildman=20
> Popeyes.=20
>=20
> What have you all found out there?
>=20
> Dean
>






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--- In Ch






...I put an answer to this up before . Did it not go up ???????

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> Your dedication is awesome. I bow before your greater Charlton=20
> knowledge. Here I am still trying to get together a complete Fightin'=20
> 5 set and maybe start on Ghostly Tales!
>=20
> I'm a piker!
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> Dean :)
>








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---=20

me I picked up an issue of Fightin Marines and Monster Hunters for a=20
good price.




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> --- In Ch
>=20
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> > Your dedication is awesome. I bow before your greater Charlton=20
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> > 5 set and maybe start on Ghostly Tales!
> >=20
> > I'm a piker!
> >=20
> > Dean :)
> >
>






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His fame has now become so all-consuming that it
sometimes frightens me. Some articles and interviews
have lead many to believe that Mr Gill wrote all
non-credited Charlton stories. This is not only
incorrect, it is also unfair to the many other writers
who worked at Charlton, often producing their best at
the lowest pay rates in the industry.

Still, there is no denying that Joe Gill to a large
extent IS Charlton, in the sense that his style of
writing formed the style, the "voice" if you will, of
the company. At least, until the mid-1970s, when new,
young talents were breaking in.

Best,
Ramon

--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You and me both. Joe Gill is my all-time favorite
> writer, a man so 
> prolific I just knew as a kid he had to be a "house
> name" and not a 
> real guy at all. When I learned differently, my
> whole understanding of 
> professinal writing changed for the better. Here was
> a guy who could 
> spin stories like a machine gun, some better than
> others, but all of 
> them competent.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Those are easy. Wanna chomp your teeth on something
hard? Try Hot Rods and Racing Cars or I Love You. Now
THOSE are hard to complete.

Best,
Ramon (46% down, 54% to go!)

--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Your dedication is awesome. I bow before your
> greater Charlton 
> knowledge. Here I am still trying to get together a
> complete Fightin' 
> 5 set and maybe start on Ghostly Tales!
> 
> I'm a piker!
> 
> Dean :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Love that series! Too few issues, IMHO. I wonder why
D'Agostino chose this specific art style, though.
Ramon

--- Tom D <usomohoben@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hunk
> 
> --- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In recent months I've found a few, mostly war
> books
> > like Fightin' 
> > Marines, but I've also found some good funny books
> > like George Wildman 
> > Popeyes. 
> > 
> > What have you all found out there?
> > 
> > Dean
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Which brings me to ask the question: what do you
people think is a good price for a Charlton comics?

Me, I hardly ever buy any for more than $2-4, often
even less, excepting anything before say 1958 or 59.
For those, especially "rare" issues, I'll pay more,
like $10-15. But I've only paid than that on a handful
of occasions.

So, what's your spending pattern? ;)

Best,
Ramon

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hmmm, You have peaked my curiousity I hope I can get to the next show
in mass and look for those titles.






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 The most I have paid is 2 dollers for a Charlton. Now I haven't
really looked into older issues but I don't think I would go over 20.
If I had the money I would pay higher if I really wanted something.









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Most Charlton comics that I buy don't cost very much. But the first appearance of the masked western character Gunmaster, from Six Gun Heroes # 57, June 1960 edition, that I bought at a local Halifax flea market about three weeks ago, I paid $15.00 Canadian for. Still, that's not too pricy for the first appearance of a 46 year old character in a comic book, in decent condition. 
   
  About five years ago, I purchased every last Charlton appearance of Charlton Comics' Captain Atom, from Space Adventures # 33 (his very first appearance anywhere) --- straight up. These were very expensive, and most of them, including S.A. # 33, were in like Mint Condition, or very close. I basically paid an arm and a leg for them, and, as I just happened to have the cash on hand at the time, I couldn't pass them up. 
   
  Over the years, I've acquired all the Judomasters, all the Ted Kord Blue Beetles, all the Peacemakers, all of the Son Vulcans (except for one that is eluding me), almost all of the Fightin' Fives except for a few --- I even have all the later reprints), all the Sarge Steel/-Secret Agents(s), all the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolts, all of the Silver Age Dan Garret Blue Beetles (Silver Age only), all of the Six Million Dollar Mans (both comics and comic magazines), ditto Space: 1999. 
   
  The one thing I would love to have but don't, is the Emergency comics and comic magazines, based on the TV show. 
   
  I have most of the Emans, all of the Doomsday  plus One(s), most all of the Yangs/-House of Yangs, etc.
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Which brings me to ask the question: what do you
people think is a good price for a Charlton comics?

Me, I hardly ever buy any for more than $2-4, often
even less, excepting anything before say 1958 or 59.
For those, especially "rare" issues, I'll pay more,
like $10-15. But I've only paid than that on a handful
of occasions.

So, what's your spending pattern? ;)

Best,
Ramon

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phil....i been after the yangs and house of yangs for a while....any chance=
 of sharing those?
=20=20=20
  emily

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Most Charlton comics that I buy don't cost very much. But the fir=
st appearance of the masked western character Gunmaster, from Six Gun Heroe=
s # 57, June 1960 edition, that I bought at a local Halifax flea market abo=
ut three weeks ago, I paid $15.00 Canadian for. Still, that's not too pricy=
 for the first appearance of a 46 year old character in a comic book, in de=
cent condition.=20

About five years ago, I purchased every last Charlton appearance of Charlto=
n Comics' Captain Atom, from Space Adventures # 33 (his very first appearan=
ce anywhere) --- straight up. These were very expensive, and most of them, =
including S.A. # 33, were in like Mint Condition, or very close. I basicall=
y paid an arm and a leg for them, and, as I just happened to have the cash =
on hand at the time, I couldn't pass them up.=20

Over the years, I've acquired all the Judomasters, all the Ted Kord Blue Be=
etles, all the Peacemakers, all of the Son Vulcans (except for one that is =
eluding me), almost all of the Fightin' Fives except for a few --- I even h=
ave all the later reprints), all the Sarge Steel/-Secret Agents(s), all the=
 Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolts, all of the Silver Age Dan Garret Blue Beetles =
(Silver Age only), all of the Six Million Dollar Mans (both comics and comi=
c magazines), ditto Space: 1999.=20

The one thing I would love to have but don't, is the Emergency comics and c=
omic magazines, based on the TV show.=20

I have most of the Emans, all of the Doomsday plus One(s), most all of the =
Yangs/-House of Yangs, etc.

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Which brings me to ask the question: what do you
people think is a good price for a Charlton comics?

Me, I hardly ever buy any for more than $2-4, often
even less, excepting anything before say 1958 or 59.
For those, especially "rare" issues, I'll pay more,
like $10-15. But I've only paid than that on a handful
of occasions.

So, what's your spending pattern? ;)

Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charltonspotlight.com

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Ramon,
   
  Respectfully, asking me what I would pay for a Charlton is like asking me what I would pay for a Marvel or a DC.
   
  I don't think the company that published a comic or other periodical would determine the price one would pay for the most part. 
   
  I'm no exception. I wouldn't pay too much for a Yang, but I'd pay a lot for a high grade Space Adventures # 33, first appearance of Captain Atom, in his powder blue and black costume. In fact, I did.
   
  But most Charlton 1960's action heroes comics (Blue Beetle, Judomaster, Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, even Fightin' Five and Sarge Steel/-Secret Agent, etc.) --- I got most of them for around 75 cents to $2.00 a copy, in high grade. Of course, I got most of them in the 1970's and 1980's.
   
  It's still a fair question that you asked though, since I would guess that most Charltons go for not very much money. 
   
  I rather like the Space: 1999 (both series), and Six Million Dollar Man (both series.) And Doomsday Plus One is pretty good, too. 
   
  I'm a big fan of Charlton Bullseye first (fanzine) series, got those in high grade and paid a pretty penny for all five. They were worth every penny.
   
  Phil Latter
   
  

lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
          --- 

The most I have paid is 2 dollers for a Charlton. Now I haven't
really looked into older issues but I don't think I would go over 20.
If I had the money I would pay higher if I really wanted something.

In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@...> wrote:
>
> Which brings me to ask the question: what do you
> people think is a good price for a Charlton comics?
> 
> Me, I hardly ever buy any for more than $2-4, often
> even less, excepting anything before say 1958 or 59.
> For those, especially "rare" issues, I'll pay more,
> like $10-15. But I've only paid than that on a handful
> of occasions.
> 
> So, what's your spending pattern? ;)
> 
> Best,
> Ramon
> 
> Ramon Schenk,
> contributing editor
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
> http://www.charltonspotlight.com
> 
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Ramon,
   
  Respectfully, asking me what I would pay for a Charlton is like asking me what I would pay for a Marvel or a DC.
   
  I don't think the company that published a comic or other periodical would determine the price one would pay for the most part. 
   
  I'm no exception. I wouldn't pay too much for a Yang, but I'd pay a lot for a high grade Space Adventures # 33, first appearance of Captain Atom, in his powder blue and black costume. In fact, I did.
   
  But most Charlton 1960's action heroes comics (Blue Beetle, Judomaster, Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, even Fightin' Five and Sarge Steel/-Secret Agent, etc.) --- I got most of them for around 75 cents to $2.00 a copy, in high grade. Of course, I got most of them in the 1970's and 1980's.
   
  It's still a fair question that you asked though, since I would guess that most Charltons go for not very much money. 
   
  I rather like the Space: 1999 (both series), and Six Million Dollar Man (both series.) And Doomsday Plus One is pretty good, too. 
   
  I'm a big fan of Charlton Bullseye first (fanzine) series, got those in high grade and paid a pretty penny for all five. They were worth every penny.
   
  Phil Latter
   
  

lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
          --- 

The most I have paid is 2 dollers for a Charlton. Now I haven't
really looked into older issues but I don't think I would go over 20.
If I had the money I would pay higher if I really wanted something.

In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@...> wrote:
>
> Which brings me to ask the question: what do you
> people think is a good price for a Charlton comics?
> 
> Me, I hardly ever buy any for more than $2-4, often
> even less, excepting anything before say 1958 or 59.
> For those, especially "rare" issues, I'll pay more,
> like $10-15. But I've only paid than that on a handful
> of occasions.
> 
> So, what's your spending pattern? ;)
> 
> Best,
> Ramon
> 
> Ramon Schenk,
> contributing editor
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
> http://www.charltonspotlight.com
> 
> Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
> Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo.com/ramonschenk
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 The reason I myself bought Charlton it was another alternative to dc=20
and Marvel. I especially like the war comics since my uncle was in=20
world war 2 I always liked reading about the different battles. I also=20
liked the Horror stories even though they weren't scary some were=20
cool. Doomsday +1 was excellent and could have been great I was able=20
to get the whole series even though they were reprints. All in all=20
they bring back memories of a different time. thanks.




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I always rememberd the Horror stories, Dr Graves etc, plus the westerns=20
they churned out, really the last company to do so. They were usually=20
the only comics I gravitated towards at the 7-11 back in the day. I=20
still love them because they are kind of a hidden treasure that too few=20
seem to enjoy.





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I bought Charlton comics from the mid sixties, even bought a few before the=
 Action Heroes debuted.  They were another approach to comics, and even in =
my mid to late teens I was always on the lookout for good comics, in every =
genre except perhaps for romance.
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       Allen Smith

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the only comics I gravitated towards at the 7-11 back in the day. I=20
still love them because they are kind of a hidden treasure that too few=20
seem to enjoy.



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John Anderson, publisher of Spooky, a UK-based fanzine devoted to the characters, titles and creators of the Warren line, has asked me to pass along a request for articles on any aspect of Warren Publications.

It's not a paid gig - it's a fanzine, so the most you'd get would be contributors' copy & a byline - but if this is an area of interest for anyone, proposals should in the first instance be directed to John at spooky@soaringpenguin.co.uk 

If you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, please feel free to let them know by passing this e-mail along.

- Will Morgan

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There are really two distinct Charlton periods in my collecting=20
life. When I first was a youngster starting out, my grandmother got=20
hold of several comic books for me and among them were Judomaster,=20
Thunderbolt, and Peacemaker. These few issues had a flavor not=20
unlike the Marvels I liked, a personal touch that spoke to my=20
budding fanboy self. They also had a sense of mission, the whole=20
notion of "Action Heroes" appealed to me. But I'd already missed=20
that Charlton experiment and Dick Giordano was already at DC by this=20
time. Still I was alware of Charlton and picked up Ghostly Tales,=20
other ghost books, and some war books off and on.=20

In 1975 I was graduating high school and I was looking to make a=20
change in my comic book reading habits, and at that moment along=20
came Atlas-Seaboard comics with their promise of something fresh.=20
That promise sputtered out before long, but it got me to looking at=20
other comics and I found stuff on the stands I'd ignored for a long=20
while as I sucked at the Marvel teat. E-Man changed my worldview and=20
the advent of talents like Nick Cuti, Joe Staton, John Byrne, and=20
Mike Zeck along with Charlton veterans like Joe Gill (who I thought=20
was a house name at this time), Pat Boyette, Tom Sutton, Steve=20
Dikto, and others opened up a whole new approach to comics. I got=20
the Charlton bug bigtime and I picked up the whole line, even the=20
funny books licensed from Hanna-Barbara.=20

This was Charlton's second golden moment and despite the fact it=20
sputtered out in a few years, it's left me with a lifelong=20
appreciation for the line. In recent years and the advent of the=20
internet and fanzines like Charlton Spotlight, I've learned a whole=20
lot about my favorite company. And the more I learn, the more I=20
want.=20

Dean





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Not a problem. I've seen Spooky on the stands, but sadly I've not yet=20
picked it up. The Nick Cuti material is tempting I will say.

Maybe I'll have to fix that.

Dean





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Most of the online obits for Rudy Palais mention he did some work for=20
Charlton, specifically The Many Ghosts of Dr.Graves. Does anyone know=20
specifically which issues of Graves Mr.Palais worked on?

Palais is a talent I'm not that familiar with, but he seems to have=20
been an important figure.

Thanks in advance!

Dean





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if anybody wants them i can put up 6-10 later.
http://rapidshare.de/files/27276003/_Charlton__E-Man_1-5.zip.html






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T.C.,
   
  Thanks. 
   
  But, I ordered a copy of Shockwave # 0 when it first came out. The promotional posts and material that promoted out, (before it came out), said that the following issue, Shockwave # 1, would contain the material that had originally been scheduled for the never, ever published Charlton Spotlight Special(s) # 1 and # 2.
   
  So, my question is, did Shockwave # 1, containing that Charlton Spotlight # 1 & 2 material, as promised, ever come out-?
   
  Thanks and best wishes-!
   
  Regards,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

"T.C." <djhootie@gmail.com> wrote:
            Copies of Shockwave #0 are always available through Comixpress.
  You can order from them through this link:
   
  http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=87
  
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Subject: Modern Comics reprints vs originals
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I was looking at my copies of CAPTAIN ATOM 84 AND 85
and noticed the last few page numbers are missing.=20

Both are the Modern Comics printings with 17 page stories.=20
GCD lists the Charlton originals as 17 and 18 pages.
DarkMark's site says 20 and 18.  Can anyone confirm?

Did the Modern Comics reprints get recolored, or did they
still have the plates available from the original runs?





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From: Doc Quantum of The Time Trust <the_time_trust_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Modern Comics reprints vs originals
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Good question. I'd like to know the answer myself,
since I also have those Modern Comics reprints!

Doc

--- drumore1 <drew.moore@mac.com> wrote:

> I was looking at my copies of CAPTAIN ATOM 84 AND 85
> and noticed the last few page numbers are missing. 
> 
> Both are the Modern Comics printings with 17 page
> stories. 
> GCD lists the Charlton originals as 17 and 18 pages.
> DarkMark's site says 20 and 18.  Can anyone confirm?
> 
> Did the Modern Comics reprints get recolored, or did
> they
> still have the plates available from the original
> runs?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Does anyone out there have any scans of stories with some of Charlton's les=
ser known heroes such as Nature Boy, Muscle Man, Mercury Man, Liberty Belle=
, Killjoy and Prankster?
=20=20=20
  I am thinking about using them in a fanfic piece (along with Yellow Jacke=
t) and I'd like to see how they were utilized in a story to get a feel for =
the characters.=20

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>
>    Posted by: "Reuben Reuben" redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com redrubeheyrube
>    Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:41 am (PDT)
>
>Does anyone out there have any scans of stories with some of Charlton's
lesser known heroes such as Nature Boy,=20
>Muscle Man, Mercury Man, Liberty Belle, Killjoy and Prankster?
>=20=20=20
>  I am thinking about using them in a fanfic piece (along with Yellow
Jacket) and I'd like to see how they were=20
>utilized in a story to get a feel for the characters.=20

Nature Boy- have yet to see one of these stories.  I think AC Comics
reprinted one or more stories in "Men of Mystery".

Muscle Man- have never seen a story.

Mercury Man-  AC reprinted the first story.  There is a scan on the
second story on-line.  There are differences between the 2 stories.

Liberty Belle- I have the E-Man comic, but have never seen a reprint.

Killjoy- character is owned by Ditko.  I have the 2 E-Man comics.
Ditko/Snyder reprinted the 2 in one of the Ditko packages, and Ditko did
a new story in another package.

Prankster- I have the original comic, but have never seen a reprint.

Yellow Jacket- AC Comics has reprinted at least one story.


Hope this helps.

Michael Brown

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Thanks.

Brown Michael-EMB021 <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:          >
> Posted by: "Reuben Reuben" redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com redrubeheyrube
> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:41 am (PDT)
>
>Does anyone out there have any scans of stories with some of Charlton's
lesser known heroes such as Nature Boy,=20
>Muscle Man, Mercury Man, Liberty Belle, Killjoy and Prankster?
>=20
> I am thinking about using them in a fanfic piece (along with Yellow
Jacket) and I'd like to see how they were=20
>utilized in a story to get a feel for the characters.=20

Nature Boy- have yet to see one of these stories. I think AC Comics
reprinted one or more stories in "Men of Mystery".

Muscle Man- have never seen a story.

Mercury Man- AC reprinted the first story. There is a scan on the
second story on-line. There are differences between the 2 stories.

Liberty Belle- I have the E-Man comic, but have never seen a reprint.

Killjoy- character is owned by Ditko. I have the 2 E-Man comics.
Ditko/Snyder reprinted the 2 in one of the Ditko packages, and Ditko did
a new story in another package.

Prankster- I have the original comic, but have never seen a reprint.

Yellow Jacket- AC Comics has reprinted at least one story.

Hope this helps.

Michael Brown


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My contributor's copy arrived this weekend and I was very pleased with=20
the result. Anyone else seen it?

Best,
Ramon





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Mike Ambrose and Ramon,
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  Not yet. I'm ordering late. Mike, I only bought and put a U.S. $ money or=
der for Charlton Spotlight # 5 into the mail to you, today. Sorry I'm late.=
=20
=20=20=20
  I'm also hoping that ya will still have some copies of The Face # 1 as a =
freebee by the time ya get my order. Boy, I'd sure like to have that one, t=
oo-!
=20=20=20
  Best Wishes,
=20=20=20
  Phil Latter

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:
          My contributor's copy arrived this weekend and I was very pleased=
 with=20
the result. Anyone else seen it?

Best,
Ramon



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I got mine a few days ago. I've been offline for several days as my=20
computer got a bug, but I'm back now and I'll be happy to share my=20
thoughts on this wonderfully rich fanzine as I read through it. It's=20
the best issue yet, beautiful and brimming with articles. I highly=20
recommend it.

Dean




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I've got several great auctions up this week.=20=20

I have some great Charlton sets up this week.  Including an=20
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I also have lots of other comics and comic runs/sets up right now.=20=20
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Subject: great auctions up this week (including a run of Byrne's Doomsday + 1)
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I have some more great auctions up on eBay this week:

Fantastic Four issues from the early 1970's, T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents=20
issues from the 1960's, fanzines, X-Men paperbacks and comics,  Star=20
Trek : DS9 issues, a John Byrne Doomsday + 1 run, Herbie issues, a=20
COMPLETE RUN of Kirby's Phantom Force, Flaming Carrot and Cerebus=20
issues, and more=85

Search under seller ID:

rosjim

to see them all.  Add me to your favorites list; I have more great=20
stuff from the GA =96 recent issues going up almost every week.

Thanks for looking,
Jim




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More great lots up this week.  This will be the last bunch before=20
Christmas. !

Featured are a set of New Mutants issues that star Cable including=20
his first appearance (both printings) and 9 others between #'s 87=20
and 100; a great set of 8 Superman Prestige comics; a Many Ghosts of=20
Dr. Graves / Charlton set; a Tippy Teen lot (later reprinted by=20
Atlas/Seaboard as Vicki); issues 1 and 3 of Tower's Dynamo series=20
from the 1960's, a copy of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents #3 from 1966 in=20
nice condition; a Herbie lot by A+ Comics; Malibu's Star Trek : Deep=20
Space 9 #'s 1 =96 4; an EXCELLENT issue of the fanzine, The Collector=20
from 1973; some Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back trading cards; as=20
well as, a neat pile of Beanie Characters including some Christmas=20
Toy Story ones=85

ALL THESE AUCTIONS END TOMORROW THOUGH !!!  Check them out and Bid=20
Now !!!!

Search under the seller ID:

rosjim

to see them all=85

thanks for looking,
Jim



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Hi all,

Sorry for the cross-posting and the unabashed commercial plug, but I wanted=
 to let=20
everyone know that there's still time to get the latest issue of my magazin=
e CHARLTON=20
SPOTLIGHT in time for the holidays. You've bought everyone else's presents =
(uh-huh!), so=20
now it's time to treat yourself!

CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #5 offers a cornucopia of Charlton Comics history. First=
 up is the=20
massive, 24-page JOE GILL INTERVIEW by Alter Ego's own JIM AMASH, in which =
one of the=20
most prolific writers in comics history tells all about Charlton Press, fro=
m the people to the=20
comics, liberally illustrated with rare and unpublished photos and artwork.=
 Never before=20
has this legendary comics writer been interviewed in such depth, where he t=
alks candidly=20
about getting his start in comics in 1946 (through his brother Ray and a ge=
nt named=20
Mickey Spillane), all the way up to the final days of Charlton. This featur=
e alone is worth=20
twice the price of admission!

Next we serve up a positively Lucullan feast of STEVE DITKO material, inclu=
ding:

-- Mark Burbey's comprehensive survey of Gill & Ditko's CAPTAIN ATOM, with =
a sidebar on=20
THE QUESTION!
-- Gene Phillips's in-depth examination of Ditko's BLUE BEETLE!
-- our Charlton Classic Reprint of the issue, a never-before-reprinted Ditk=
o story from a=20
1958 SPACE ADVENTURES, in crisp B&W!
-- Steve Skeates's revelatory memoir of how he and Ditko came to collaborat=
e on the=20
classic Dr. Strange--er, Dr. Graves story in Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves #12!
-- Ron Frantz's ongoing chronicles of Charlton history, this time discussin=
g his 1980s'=20
collaborations with GILL, DITKO, TOTH, and (almost) HARLAN ELLISON!

But wait, there's more!--

-- Ramon Schenk's groundbreaking examination of Charlton's unheralded comic=
s text=20
stories of the 1970s!
-- Howard Leroy Davis's memori of his 19973 visit to Charlton, meeting NICK=
 CUTI and=20
JOE STATON!
-- Steve Skeates's heartfelt remembrance of working with the immortal JIM A=
PARO at=20
Charlton and DC!
-- and much, much more, including new samples of Nick Cuti's "Weirdlings" c=
artoons,=20
news, reviews, letters, checklists, and another installment of the ongoing =
Charlton Year-
by-Year checklist!

-- all behind a brand-new, full-color cover painting by NICK CUTI!

No comics fan can afford to miss this one! Grab it at your local comics sho=
p (available=20
through Diamond) or directly from the publisher at $7.95 per copy, postpaid=
 (US address).=20
Check/MO payable to Argo Press, or PayPal to my e-mail address. And don't f=
orget our=20
back issue sale--#1-4 all for $20 ppd. That gets you a free issue! See more=
 about the new=20
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #5 at our website, and thanks for reading!

Best,
_____________________
Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.com


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Hi All,

One of my alert subscribers just notified me of this. Congratulations to al=
l of us, and cheers=20
to all for the holidays!

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=3D14091&si=3D124

Mike
_____________________
Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.com



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Geez, Mike -- that's a helluva distinction!=20

(Note to self: order the new ish, already.)

Dan

-------------- Original message from "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.r=
r.com>: --------------=20

Hi All,

One of my alert subscribers just notified me of this. Congratulations to al=
l of us, and cheers=20
to all for the holidays!

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=3D14091&si=3D124

Mike
_____________________
Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.com


=20

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Tied  for first place! Mike, that=B9s fantastic...and very well deserved!
Charlton Spotlight just keeps getting better!

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
Www.lastkissentertainment


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Congrats! I just dug out all my back issues of Charlton Spotlight and=20
I'm going to give them another read.=20

The hard work of everyone involved is most appreciated by this Charlton=20
fan.

Dean


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Dean, many thanks. I can't think of a more rewarding experience, either!
Mike

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> Dean
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I have been trying off and on for the last month to get to Brian Bolland's =
site to see his=20
"digital inking" tutorial. All I ever get is a blank page.

Anyone else tried lately? Is it just my browser (Safari) ?

Thanks,
Ed


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i tried, but could not get in.


--- Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I have been trying off and on for the last month to
> get to Brian Bolland's site to see his 
> "digital inking" tutorial. All I ever get is a blank
> page.
> 
> Anyone else tried lately? Is it just my browser
> (Safari) ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> 
> 



 
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It's sad news I find this morning. Somehow this news has eluded me for=20
several days. Joe Gill was the man at Charlton, writing more books than=20
I can count. I for many years imagined the name "Joe Gill" must've been=20
a house name since it seemed to me that one couldn't have written all=20
that stuff in so many genres. I was wrong. Joe Gill was a real man=20
indeed, very much so.

He's one pro I'd have loved to meet. Rest in peace Mr. Gill.

Here's a link with more details.

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_01_16.html#012760

Dean


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Hi Folks,
   
  Just for fun, here is some art I have done, including two Charlton Comics superheroes, and two Batman pieces. One of the latter (ooh, a pun) is a fake Batman cover I drew some years ago, just for the fun of it.
   
  Best Wishes,
   
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Here's a link on Joe Gill from the Connecticut Post:

http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_5050002




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Subject: new subject: GOLDEN AGE Blue Beetle, and Judomaster, & a TV message for  Don Glut-!
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I completely agree with you, Don-! (Glut.)
   
  Now me, I like the golden age as well as the silver age Blue Beetles, both the Ditko version and the version that came just before him. But, especially the Ditko version-!
   
  I also like all the other Charlton superheroes, like Judomaster, Peacemaker, The Question, Captain Atom, Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt, and Sarge Steel, who isn't a superhero, but he's still a fave.
  Oh, and I'm a HUGE fan of the golden age Charlton YELLOWJACKET, who was in ten issues of his own title, as well as in the one shot TNT Comics # 1, and JACK IN THE BOX # eleven.
   
  DC's already killed the Steve Ditko Blue Beetle (Max Lord, former civilian chairman or funder, ~ whatever it is) --- for the JLA, blew him away with a bullet through his brain. Ungghhh-!
   
  And, The Question, in the current DC series "52", is dying from terminal cancer. The cancer has also reached his brain, so the poor guy's lost his fu*&%ing mind.
   
  Let us not forget that Charlton's The Peacemaker, some years ago, lost his mind, went insane, killed a ton of innocent people as well as unmasking The Vigilante on national television (title character of his own fifty issue series - as a result, The Vigilante took a gun and blew his OWN head off. In issue # 50 of course-!
   
  Then, off camera, we were told that The Peacemaker (the original) was killed. Aaaaaaaaaaaaan.....we were told this years ago, no details have ever been revealed. There's been two new Peacemakers since.
   
  There have been two Judomaster's since the original, Rip Jagger, reappeared at DC Comics in the DC title The L.A.W., in a new, ugly white costume. His original was great, in my opinion.  The latest Judomaster is female....
   
  Others will disagree, but I don't think DC's handled any of the Charlton characters properly.
   
  By the way, Don (Glut), I saw you on television about a month ago, I was watching a documentary and there was a cut to you talking about the subject matter. So, now I know what you look like. That was pretty cool.
   
  But, I watch a ton of TV documentaries on numerous subjects, so now I can't even remember which documentary it was-!
   
  I'm hoping you can supply me with the title of same. What a great memory, huh-?
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

"Donald F. Glut" <frontlinefilm@earthlink.net> wrote:
            If you happen to come across some of my old emails, I'm still (don't ask why, because I sure can't exactly explain it) a big fan of the always-changing Golden Age Blue Beetle. The new version is just another example of DC destroying an old character, just because they can.
   
  Don
   
   
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Don Bearden 
  To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:51 PM
  Subject: [charlton-l] new subject: Blue Beetle and Judomaster
  

    I'm not writing much. Just enough to suggest that when subjects change, 
you change the subject line. I have done so on this subject and hope 
any further comments appear under this title.

Don

Ramon Schenk wrote:
>
> A new Judomaster? Really? What title is that? And are
> we going to have a new, female The Question? "52"
> seems to be going in that direction...
>
> Ramon
>
> --- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca 
> <mailto:chromium_foil%40yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>
> > Ramon,
> >
> > I don't like this new Blue Beetle series. I don't
> > like the character at all. Nonetheless, I've been
> > buying them and reading them from # 1 to present.
> >
> > I'm not sure why. But, while I have them, I
> > haven't read the last three of them. I'll take a
> > look at them today and get back to you.
> >
> > Now, there's a new female Judomaster at DC. Hoo
> > boy.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:ramonschenk%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > Did anyone notice there is a new
> > Peacemaker over in
> > The Blue Beetle? Doesn't seem related to Christopher
> > Smith, but you never know.
> >
> > Best,
> > Ramon
> >
> > --- AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM <mailto:AIRBOYO2%40AOL.COM> wrote:
> > > The DC PEACEMAKER was a really bad colic book, in
> > my
> > > opinion, I did not mine
> > > THUNDERBOLT as much as others. I like the way John
> > > Ostrander handled SARGE
> > > STEEL in SUICIDE SQUAD.
> > > I have not read any of "52", but would like to see
> > > them.
> > > I have one of those posters somewhere in my
> > Batcave.
> > > I wrote and drew thumbnail sketches for a SARGE
> > > STEEL parody years ago, I
> > > ought to print it out for INTERLAC APA some day,
> > > though it is not related to the
> > > Legion.
> > > It would be good for this group to be more
> > > Charlton-centric, that is what we
> > > are here for.
> > > I love Pat Boyette's SPOOKMAN, Steve Skeates and
> > > Montes/Bache's TYRO TEAM,
> > > and Grass Green's THE SHAPE, they made CHARLTON
> > > PREMIERE #3 one of my all-time
> > > favorite comic books.
> > > Let's Keep It Charlton!!!
> > > :o)
> > > --steve cohen
> > >
> >
> > Ramon Schenk,
> > contributing editor
> > CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
> > http://www.charltonspotlight.com <http://www.charltonspotlight.com>
> >
> > Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl <http://www.ramonschenk.nl>
> > Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo.com/ramonschenk 
> <http://360.yahoo.com/ramonschenk>
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
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Ramon,
   
  Check out this link, read it in full....
   
  http://www.answers.com/topic/judomaster
   
  Oh, and DO check out the scan I also attached. Please lemme know whatcha think, folks....
   
  And, umm, well, Rob, it IS Canadian comics art. Kinda...
  Uhh...being that I am Canadian, that is.
   
  
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:
          A new Judomaster? Really? What title is that? And are
we going to have a new, female The Question? "52"
seems to be going in that direction...

Ramon

--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Ramon,
> 
> I don't like this new Blue Beetle series. I don't
> like the character at all. Nonetheless, I've been
> buying them and reading them from # 1 to present.
> 
> I'm not sure why. But, while I have them, I
> haven't read the last three of them. I'll take a
> look at them today and get back to you.
> 
> Now, there's a new female Judomaster at DC. Hoo
> boy.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Phil
> 
> Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Did anyone notice there is a new
> Peacemaker over in
> The Blue Beetle? Doesn't seem related to Christopher
> Smith, but you never know.
> 
> Best,
> Ramon
> 
> --- AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote:
> > The DC PEACEMAKER was a really bad colic book, in
> my
> > opinion, I did not mine 
> > THUNDERBOLT as much as others. I like the way John
> > Ostrander handled SARGE 
> > STEEL in SUICIDE SQUAD.
> > I have not read any of "52", but would like to see
> > them.
> > I have one of those posters somewhere in my
> Batcave.
> > I wrote and drew thumbnail sketches for a SARGE
> > STEEL parody years ago, I 
> > ought to print it out for INTERLAC APA some day,
> > though it is not related to the 
> > Legion.
> > It would be good for this group to be more
> > Charlton-centric, that is what we 
> > are here for.
> > I love Pat Boyette's SPOOKMAN, Steve Skeates and
> > Montes/Bache's TYRO TEAM, 
> > and Grass Green's THE SHAPE, they made CHARLTON
> > PREMIERE #3 one of my all-time 
> > favorite comic books.
> > Let's Keep It Charlton!!!
> > :o)
> > --steve cohen
> > 
> 
> Ramon Schenk,
> contributing editor
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
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Folks,
   
  In the mid 1980's, about 1987 or 1987, I used DC Superpowers collection action figures that I'd bought, and, having bought a full set of them, I bought some more and made them into numerous comics characters that, from the comics, had never, ever been represented in action figures. 
   
  I made a ton of them. And I was a perfectionist, sometimes spending a couple of months on each one. 
   
  Here are the Charlton superheroes, which I still have, in a China cabinet, along with lots of other comics heroes, and even my own created superheroes-!
   
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        Folks,

In the mid 1980's, about 1987 or 1987, I used DC Superpowers collection act=
ion figures that I'd bought, and, having bought a full set of them, I bough=
t some more and made them into numerous comics characters that, from the co=
mics, had never, ever been represented in action figures.=20

I made a ton of them. And I was a perfectionist, sometimes spending a coupl=
e of months on each one.=20

Here are the Charlton superheroes, which I still have, in a China cabinet, =
along with lots of other comics heroes, and even my own created superheroes=
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Best Wishes,

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Martin,
   
  In the next few posts, I'll show you some more photos of just some of the numerous home-made heroes I've made over the years. Only Plastic Man in the group photo is just-as-bought, and not "doctored" by, ummm...."Dr. Phil." Ha-!
   
  FIRST SCANNED PHOTO, attached:
   
  Group photo: left to right: (1) Hourman Two, alias Rick Tyler, in his Infinity Inc. purple & red costume. His belt holds a pouch on the side, just as it did in Infinity Inc. with his Hourman pills in it. 
   
  (2) Captain Atom, as seen in his second Charlton Comics Steve Ditko costume.
   
  (3) The Golden Age (and best, in my opinion) Green Lantern, Allan Scott. His cape with collar is removable. 
   
  (4) Peter Morisi's Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt. His belt is removable. 
   
  (5) Superpowers 1970's Plastic Man. Store-bought, not changed. Not sure why I put him in the photo.
   
   (6) Golden Age Hourman. Note: his cape with attached hood/-mask is removable, revealing 'Tick-Tock Tyler' underneath-!
   
   (7) Tiger: Judomaster's junior partner-! His ponytail is real black hair-!
   
   (8) Golden Age Doctor Midnite. His cape and belt is removable. His boots, gloves, cape and belt are cloth. 
   
  (9) Blue Beetle. Believe it or not, the gun is removable from his hand. I recarved his hand to hold a gun, and carved the gun out of plastic. His belt holds the blue gun holster, AND: it has a proper flap, to pull down, once gun is back in the holster, and snaps to click it shut-! That took a loooong time to get right-! I made another, identical Blue Beetle for a British Columbia comics artist, in return for a commisioned colour "Sorcerer"  TM illustration, which is one of my characters-! 
   
  (10) Judomaster 
   
  (11) The Creeper. The red fluff over his shoulders is made of yarn-! 
   
  (12) Phil Latter's SORCERER TM. 
   
  (13) The Peacemaker. His helmet is removable, revealing his secret I.D Christopher Smith, with his black hair and grey temples. Peacemaker has a removable gun belt with a holstered handgun. Removablle from its holster, with snap, to close it when holstered. Peacemaker holds a rifle. His gunbelt has a sword in a homemade scabbard, and a pair of binoculars on back of gunbelt. (see other photos.) 
   
  (14) Phil Latter's ECLIPSE. Russian superhero. Note the hammer & sickle designs. Has moon-shaped crescent throwing stars on boots, removable. Of course. Belt & wrist 'jewelry' is actually ammo for his guns. Hey, I don't get out much, okay-? 
   
  (15) Mr. Miracle. Store bought, but much changed. "Doctored" by...."Dr. Phil."
   
  (16) Shazam Captain Marvel. Store bought, but "Doctored" by me.
   
  (17) Phil Latter's KNIGHTMASTER TM
   
  (18) Phil Latter's THE HUNTER TM
   
  SECOND SCANNED PHOTO, Peacemaker close-up, attached:
   
  Removable:  helmet, jetpack on back, gunbelt, handgun, binoculars. Sorry, kids. No kitchen sink. Sigh.  
   
  There.
  Howzat-?
   
  Note: The rifle I had to glue to The Peacemaker's hand as, there was absolutely no way to get him to hold it, otherwise. I tried to persuade him to just hang on to it in his mitt with a threat of a kick to his n**ts and even followed through on it.....
  But, he just shrugged it off, and I broke my toe.
  Six weeks in rehab......
   
  Oh well, at least the bad guys won't get it away from him....
  Wait. He's insane and dangerously psychotic at DC...
  THIS is a good thing-?!?!?
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter

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>  DC's already killed the Steve Ditko Blue Beetle (Max Lord, former 
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> away with a bullet through his brain. Ungghhh-!

And of course Charlton killed Dan Garrett to replace him with Ted Kord in 
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> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Phil Latter wrote:
> 
> >  DC's already killed the Steve Ditko Blue Beetle (Max Lord,
> former civilian chairman or funder, ~ whatever it is) --- for
the JLA, blew him away with a bullet through his brain.
Ungghhh-!
> 
> And of course Charlton killed Dan Garrett to replace him with
> Ted Kord in the first place.  What goes around, comes around.
> 

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If i recall correctly, didnt they have body burned directly after the
murder?

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>   --- Michael Norwitz <blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net<blaklion%40blaklion.best.vwh.net>>
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> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Phil Latter wrote:
> >
> > > DC's already killed the Steve Ditko Blue Beetle (Max Lord,
> > former civilian chairman or funder, ~ whatever it is) --- for
> the JLA, blew him away with a bullet through his brain.
> Ungghhh-!
> >
> > And of course Charlton killed Dan Garrett to replace him with
> > Ted Kord in the first place. What goes around, comes around.
> >
>
> That is they -seemed- to kill him. Remember his body was never
> reported recovered. In that mish-mosh of smashed
> super-scientific gear he could have survived, been revived, had
> his mind transferred, etc.
>
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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fantastic Giants At Oddball Comics!
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Scott Shaw takes a look at Ditko's Silver Age wonder, Fantastic Giants!=20
If you've always wanted to know what was in this 25-cent comic this is=20
as close as you can come without actually having it.

Enjoy!

Here's the link:

http://www.oddballcomics.com/article.php?story=3D2007-03-05


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--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Scott Shaw takes a look at Ditko's Silver Age wonder,
> Fantastic Giants! If you've always wanted to know what was in
this 25-cent comic this is as close as you can come without
actually having it.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Here's the link:
> 
> http://www.oddballcomics.com/article.php?story=2007-03-05
> 
> 

One thing Scott does not cover is that the paperback arm of
Charlton published novelizations of the films Gorgo, Konga, &
Reptillicus. I can't speak to the others, but the Reptillicus
adaptation would have been "R" rated for the sexual content of
any three chapters.

_________________________________
 
 
Plutonium Nightmare
a novel of The VOICE

By Erwin K. Roberts
 

In PDF or Print-On-Demand formats.
Free on-line preview of Intro & Chapters 1 & 2
Now on sale at http://www.lulu.com/Modern-Knights






 
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From: "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Spring cleaning Charlton comics sale!
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I recently reorganized my Charlton comics collection and came up with well =
over 500=20
duplicate books (these things tend to accumulate like dust bunnies when you=
're a Charlton=20
completist like me!). So I need to make room. Rather than fuss with eBay on=
 all these, I'm=20
offering them to fellow listers at 50 cents apiece (plus shipping). The lis=
t is heavy on ghost=20
books, but there's plenty of variety here--romance, hot rod, animated, west=
ern, war, action-
hero--you name it, there's something for everyone. Lots and lots of great D=
itko, Gill, Boyette,=20
Staton, Glanzman, and all the other creators we love to discuss here.

I must emphasize that these are my duplicates only, and most are in average=
 Good condition=20
at best. In other words, these are for the most part strictly reading copie=
s. Lots of books from=20
the 1960s as well as the '70s. Each book is only fifty cents apiece, regard=
less of condition or=20
collectibility. Now's the time to fill in some gaps in your collection at b=
argain prices!

Contact me for my sale list. First come, first served, but I guarantee you =
won't be=20
disappointed. Buy one, buy fifty, buy a hundred, but please buy some so I c=
an get around in=20
my office again!

Thanks,
Mike Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight


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Hi Michael can you send me the list
Guy @sparknang@hotmail.com
 In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Ambrose"=20
<charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> I recently reorganized my Charlton comics collection and came up=20
with well over 500=20
> duplicate books (these things tend to accumulate like dust bunnies=20
when you're a Charlton=20
> completist like me!). So I need to make room. Rather than fuss with=20
eBay on all these, I'm=20
> offering them to fellow listers at 50 cents apiece (plus shipping).=20
The list is heavy on ghost=20
> books, but there's plenty of variety here--romance, hot rod,=20
animated, western, war, action-
> hero--you name it, there's something for everyone. Lots and lots of=20
great Ditko, Gill, Boyette,=20
> Staton, Glanzman, and all the other creators we love to discuss=20
here.
>=20
> I must emphasize that these are my duplicates only, and most are in=20
average Good condition=20
> at best. In other words, these are for the most part strictly=20
reading copies. Lots of books from=20
> the 1960s as well as the '70s. Each book is only fifty cents=20
apiece, regardless of condition or=20
> collectibility. Now's the time to fill in some gaps in your=20
collection at bargain prices!
>=20
> Contact me for my sale list. First come, first served, but I=20
guarantee you won't be=20
> disappointed. Buy one, buy fifty, buy a hundred, but please buy=20
some so I can get around in=20
> my office again!
>=20
> Thanks,
> Mike Ambrose
> Charlton Spotlight
>



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From: "grayhulk" <chuckjeffers@adelphia.net>
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Hi gang,

Thought I would introduce myself.  I just found this group a little=20
while back and this is the first chance I have had to write in.  I'm=20
Chuck Jeffers and I live in upper East Tennessee in a little town=20
called Greeneville.  I work as the city and county GIS director (I=20
make computerized maps)and am married with two beautiful little=20
girls.  I have been collecting comics since I was a small child and=20
the best memories were of the Charlton group of comics. I relayed a=20
bit of this to Mike via private e-mails but wanted to say hi to the=20
group.

I spent most of my summers and weekends at my grandparents farm and=20
there wasn't much available as far as comics go.  Around 1972 I=20
remember riding to the local country store with my grandfather and=20
found a new display at the cash register.  It was a nice box display=20
full of three packs of Charlton comics!  For years that display was=20
restocked and everytime I went to the store with my grandfather, he=20
would buy me a pack.  I built quite a collection with everything from=20
Dr Graves to Billy the Kid to the Bugaloos.  I was a Marvel and DC=20
zombie but those Charlton's always held a special place for me. It=20
was cool to discover comics that didn't involve Superman or=20
Spiderman. Sadly I got into the mode of buying and selling=20
collections when I got older and most of the Charlton's were gone.=20=20
I've been working on rebuilding that collection for a few years now.=20=20
Collecting the Charlton's has made the comic hobby fun for me again.=20=20

I do have a couple of questions and comments for the group.  I have=20
been keeping up with our Charlton characters since DC reintroduced=20
them during Crisis on Infinite Earths.  Since that time most haven't=20
faired too well.  What do you think about the current status of the=20
Question and the new person as the Question?  Same for Blue Beetle=20
too.  I followed Captain Atom and it seems he has become the Monarch=20
after all and fated to be a villian. I'm not too happy about any of=20
these character developments but, as a good friend of mine likes to=20
point out, it's just a comic book.  Normally I would agree but I=20
always held the Charlton characters in a higher position than the=20
main stream books.  I just don't think they get the treatment they=20
deserve.=20

I also have another hobby and that's kit building.  I have been=20
knocking the idea of doing some conversions into some Charlton=20
characters.  My favorites are the hosts of the horror books.  I have=20
been itching to do a Dr Graves but with two kids ages 4 and 8, the=20
modeling has taken a back seat for a few years.  I do have a web site=20
with my work in it if anyone would like to see it you can go to:

www.flickr.com/photos/chuckjeffers

All the photos are grouped in folders on the right hand side of the=20
screen.  All comments are welcome.=20=20

Well I guess I stop rambling now!  Just wanted to say how excited I=20
was to find a group of folks who like Charlton as much as I do.

Chuck=20=20


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Welcome aboard, Chuck!
Ramon

--- grayhulk <chuckjeffers@adelphia.net> wrote:

> Hi gang,
> 
> Thought I would introduce myself.


 
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Chuck,
=20=20=20
  A hearty welcome aboard to you and thanks for telling us about yourself.
=20=20=20
  I put the website address of yours into a browser, but it brought nothing=
 up.
=20=20=20
  Can you recheck the url address and send it again, please-?
=20=20=20
  Thanks,
=20=20=20
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia
  Canada

grayhulk <chuckjeffers@adelphia.net> wrote:
          Hi gang,

Thought I would introduce myself. I just found this group a little=20
while back and this is the first chance I have had to write in. I'm=20
Chuck Jeffers and I live in upper East Tennessee in a little town=20
called Greeneville. I work as the city and county GIS director (I=20
make computerized maps)and am married with two beautiful little=20
girls. I have been collecting comics since I was a small child and=20
the best memories were of the Charlton group of comics. I relayed a=20
bit of this to Mike via private e-mails but wanted to say hi to the=20
group.

I spent most of my summers and weekends at my grandparents farm and=20
there wasn't much available as far as comics go. Around 1972 I=20
remember riding to the local country store with my grandfather and=20
found a new display at the cash register. It was a nice box display=20
full of three packs of Charlton comics! For years that display was=20
restocked and everytime I went to the store with my grandfather, he=20
would buy me a pack. I built quite a collection with everything from=20
Dr Graves to Billy the Kid to the Bugaloos. I was a Marvel and DC=20
zombie but those Charlton's always held a special place for me. It=20
was cool to discover comics that didn't involve Superman or=20
Spiderman. Sadly I got into the mode of buying and selling=20
collections when I got older and most of the Charlton's were gone.=20
I've been working on rebuilding that collection for a few years now.=20
Collecting the Charlton's has made the comic hobby fun for me again.=20

I do have a couple of questions and comments for the group. I have=20
been keeping up with our Charlton characters since DC reintroduced=20
them during Crisis on Infinite Earths. Since that time most haven't=20
faired too well. What do you think about the current status of the=20
Question and the new person as the Question? Same for Blue Beetle=20
too. I followed Captain Atom and it seems he has become the Monarch=20
after all and fated to be a villian. I'm not too happy about any of=20
these character developments but, as a good friend of mine likes to=20
point out, it's just a comic book. Normally I would agree but I=20
always held the Charlton characters in a higher position than the=20
main stream books. I just don't think they get the treatment they=20
deserve.=20

I also have another hobby and that's kit building. I have been=20
knocking the idea of doing some conversions into some Charlton=20
characters. My favorites are the hosts of the horror books. I have=20
been itching to do a Dr Graves but with two kids ages 4 and 8, the=20
modeling has taken a back seat for a few years. I do have a web site=20
with my work in it if anyone would like to see it you can go to:

www.flickr.com/photos/chuckjeffers

All the photos are grouped in folders on the right hand side of the=20
screen. All comments are welcome.=20

Well I guess I stop rambling now! Just wanted to say how excited I=20
was to find a group of folks who like Charlton as much as I do.

Chuck=20



=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Hi Chuck,

Thanks for checking in! Those are some bitchin models for sure. I would eag=
erly pay you in=20
either good money or excess Charlton comics for some custom models of Mr. B=
ones, I.M.=20
Dedd, Winnie the Witch (wah-hoo!), the "Haunted" wraith, Countess Von Bludd=
, or Doc=20
Graves. Man, you've got some talent there!

Welcome aboard!

Mike

> Hi gang,
>=20
> Thought I would introduce myself.  I just found this group a little=20
> while back and this is the first chance I have had to write in.  I'm=20
> Chuck Jeffers and I live in upper East Tennessee in a little town=20



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Hi Phil!
 
Thanks for the welcome too.  
 
I just copied and pasted the address to my browser and it came right up. 
 
www.flickr.com/photos/chuckjeffers 
 
Sometimes flickr.com is a little slow coming up.  Give it another try and
see if it works.  I had a different account with another picture hosting
site but they raised their subscription, but sometimes you get what you paid
for. 
 
On the Charlton front, I just finished a novel by Dennis O'Neal called 
Helltown".  It's about our favorite blank face, Vic Sage AKA  as the
Question.  It deals with his origin in Hub City and was a very good read.
 
I highly recommend it!
 
Chuck Jeffers
. 
 
 

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Which series does this one-shot continue its numbering from? Is it a
continuation of Unusual Tales which ended with #49 a year earlier or
does that distinction belong to Blue Beetle #50? According to some,
Shadows From Beyond is the successor to Unusual Tales, but I'm
skeptical. Did Charlton in its catch-as-catch-can manner continue the
numbering of Unusual Tales twice? What's the story?

Thanks in advance for any and all enlightenment on this point.

Dean:)




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I have been a member of this group for a few years but have never=20
posted. I have Charlton on my mind recently because I won about forty=20
various horror titles on E-Bay. I really enjoyed reading them. They=20
tool me back to being ten!

For some reason I always liked Charlton because it wasn't as polished=20
as Marvel and DC. The comics were always quirky in style. I have some=20
Strange Suspense Stories, Space War, Haunted, Creepy Things, Ghost=20
Manor, Dr. Graves, etc.=20

Can anybody tell me a little about Sanho Kim's work for Charlton? I=20
remember liking his work as a kid.


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Hi all,

Check out the new ALTER EGO #67 (Bob Oksner issue) for a comprehensive obit=
uary
of
legendary Charlton scribe Joe Gill. There's some additional knowledge about=
 Joe
that didn't
appear in the Charlton Spotlight interview.

=3DMike A.



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Me,
   
  I need a higher grade Sarge Steel # 1. 
   
  By the way, Jim, which issue of Sarge Steel are you after-? I have a duplicate of one of them. Meaning, two copies of one issue of Sarge Steel.
   
  I don't remember which one, though. But I could look, Jim. Let me know. Send me a Want List of that title. Okay-?
   
  My favourite Judomaster issue is one which has the first appearance of The Cat and, in another issue, the one which has the first appearance of The Acrobat. 
  I really, wish there had been more issues of Judomaster. I WONDER if any more Frank McLaughlin Charlton pages of Judomaster were done in the 1960's that were never published. If not a complete issue, then maybe at least some pages on an unpublished issue-? I've never, ever heard of such a thing, though.
   
  I read in an interview in Comic Book Artist some years ago that, when the Charlton buildings were torn down, a basement part was cemented in or paved over to make a parking lot, with a lot of old Charlton comic books and original art (possibly some of it never published-?) --- entombed underground forever.
   
  If that is true.....what a shame. I'd say, "What a great time capsule-!' But probably ground water, underground would eventually get in there, and.....
   
  Then again.....! It's a nice thought, anyway-!
   
  Why oh why doesn't DC publish the aborted Charlton superheroes team-up series (what was it called, again-?) --- that DC writers wrote and artist illustrated, teaming up all of those characters. I don't mean, obviously, the published The L.A.W. series. The unpublished series was to be a weekly, right-?
   
  I wonder how many pages or unpublished issues were drawn before DC pulled the plug, and whatever became of those pages-?
   
  Also, I would like to know WHICH DC comic book states that the original Peacemaker, Christopher Smith, was killed-? 
   
  Ditto, the original Judomaster-?
   
  I know that DC has since come up with TWO new versions of Judomaster: a male version in a Justice League Quarterly title issue, which I have in my collection, and a new, recurring female Judomaster in various current issues of Birds Of Prey. In fact, she is part of the Birds of Prety regular female team, now.
   
  And of course, the Vic Sage The Question was killed off, died of cancer, in DC's '52' weekly comic book series. He has ALREADY been replaced by a female The Question, complete with trench coat, fedora hat, gas, and colour changing clothes courtesy of the same gas, from her belt buckle, that afixes the faceless Question mask to her face. She is alias ex-Gotham cop, lesbian Rene Montoya.
   
  While, as previously mentioned, there are two new, DC created Peacemakers running around. One from The L.A.W. series, the other still another male Peacemaker, a brute in civilain clothes, with no costume nor uniform, who rides a motorcycle, in the new Blue Beetle series. A character (this latest version) which is just plain insipid. 
   
  Sarge Steel, to my knowledge, hasn't been seen since Suicide Squad and The L.A.W.
   
  Of course, we all know that DC returned ownership of Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt to his creator, Pete Morisi, before his death. Thus, presumably, legal rights to that character, remain with Pete Morisi's family.
   
  I wouldn't be suprised if there was one or two Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt monthly issues completed, then not published, after the series at DC was cancelled due to poor sales.
   
  And of course, there were other Peter Cannon Thunderbolt stories drawn and completed BY Pete Morisi, then not published. Regrettably, we'll probably never, ever see those, either. 
   
  Sigh.
   
  I thought the Wildstorm Captain Atom mini series was actually kind of interesting. What did everyone else think-?
   
  I would sure like to generate some discussion on these various issues that I have brought up-!
   
  Also, someone said that Judomaster was killed in a DC issue of some series. I don't believe it. He's my favourite, I would've noticed. Besides, I saw Judomaster, in his original Charlton costume, in a cameo, (Judomaster fans, take note), in DC's Detective Comics # 723, cover dated July of 1998.
   
  I file my entire huge comic book collection, alpha-numerically. I bag individually, one comic to one polypro bag (DON'T use polyethyline bags; they're an acid bath)....on bookshelves, with a file card before each title. And, I put a label on each bag, where an issue has various 'important' (to me) characters in the issue. Been doing that for decades.
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

jimludwig@bellsouth.net wrote:
          I have all the Judomaster which is why I sought SS so hard and probably paid more than I would have. This was several years ago. I do collect the SS but not as diligently. I really did not lose out and did not pay a fortune just more than usual. I still need some SS


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Not sure, but I think Judomaster was supposedly killed, because his son was going to face the killer in issue 12 of Checkmate. 

  Drivtaan

       
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 Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Original Judomaster & Other Action Heroes Return...Sort Of!
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It seems that all sorts of new "Action Hero" stories are now possible=20
as in the last issue of DC's 52 they reconstituted the multiverse=20
concept, specifically Earth-5 occupied by the Charlton heroes. Shown=20
together in a single panel were the original Charlton Blue Beetle,=20
Judomaster, Captain Atom (in red and gold suit), Peacemaker, Question,=20
and Nightshade. Thunderbolt I guess is still beyond their legal grasp.=20

While I know it ain't the same, I still like the idea that these heroes=20
are "officially" out there again and available for some kind of duty.=20

Dean


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Make that Earth-4!


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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Free Comic Book Day!
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It's Free Comic Book Day!

Get out and enjoy the festivities, and get yourself some free comic
books to boot.

I highly recommend the Gemstone Walt Disney offering this year as well
as the Fantagraphics Unseen Peanuts comic. Hopefully I'll be able to
find both.

Here's a link to the official website:

http://www.freecomicbookday.com/Default.asp

Dean




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I posted a pic of e-man done for me by bob layton


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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BobAlmondInker/?yguid=3D124008615

this is the link to my new bob almond fan site , bob is a member and
post to the site



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Beautiful!=0D
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Rome =0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Steven Berry=0D
Date: 05/11/07 04:33:11=0D
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=0D
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] e-man=0D
 =0D
I posted a pic of e-man done for me by bob layton=0D
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For the people that havent been able to track down the book but=20
wouldnt mind looking through it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gf47oi


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Hello

New here but researched and wrote two web features on the Charlton 'Space:1=
999' comics=20
and magazines a couple of years ago. I've added them in the Links section.

I'm still trying to trace those artists who worked on the magazines (John B=
yrne and Joe=20
Staton having already contributed to the comic feature, and Pat Boyette no =
longer being=20
with us), and recently found writer Mike Pellowski and Continuity penciller=
 Carl Potts, and=20
their comments will be added to an update feature planned for 2008.

However, if any of you more Charlton-savvy guys can assist in contacting an=
yone else (I'm=20
UK-based, and Charlton remains something of a mystery here), then you'll be=
 credited on=20
the feature.

Looking to find (if still around):

The two uncredited artists for strips 'Seeds of Doubt' and 'Cornucopia'=20

Vicente Alcazar

Carlos Pino (had an address but never received a reply)

Adolfo Buylla

Ed Davis

Doug Beekman

'Asian' (worked with Alcazar on one strip - would also like to enquire abou=
t other British=20
strip work he did in early 70s)

Also, the writers of the short text stories in the comics - Mike Pellowski =
has claimed 'Space=20
Sirens' and 'Micron Metamorphosis' as his but the other contributors are un=
known...

Hope to work alongside you guys with these in the coming months!

Cheers,

Shaqui Le Vesconte

Editor
The Gerry Anderson Complete Comic History
http://www.technodelic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Home.htm

.


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Subject: Oddball Comics - Registered Nurse!
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Here's a link to Scott Shaw's Oddball Comics where he takes a close=20
look at the Charlton comic Registered Nurse:

http://www.oddballcomics.com/article.php?story=3D2007-05-14


Enjoy!

Dean


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A few people requested this second issue after they enjoyed the first=20
issue, so here you are friends.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v1ua7p


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Peacemaker here:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/?yguid=3D2=
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  Blue Beetle and Captain Atom  & Question here:  http://groups.yahoo.com/g=
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Thanks for the link I enjoyed it.

I had never saw that Captain Aton story any more simular items

with "Unpublished Charlton Comics"

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Actually, the Question story was not 'unpublished'.  It was=20
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unpublished Charlton inventory.

I wonder why they never ran the Peacemaker stuff in CB?

Michael Brown


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Hey, these are great.  Please keep them coming.  You wouldn't happen to hav=
e any of the Versions of Charlton Bullesye that Charlton printed would you?=
  I know BB and the Question were in number 1.  I would like to see any tha=
t anyone has.  Again, thanks for these treasures.

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sorry, forgot the link in other post, here it is


http://www.sendspace.com/file/nghpbu


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Well, heres issue 3 as requested.


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Thanks.

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e link in other post, here it is

http://www.sendspace.com/file/nghpbu



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Just opened the file.  This is great.  Thanks a lot.

powerrecordsnut <theshiverman@hotmail.com> wrote:          sorry, forgot th=
e link in other post, here it is

http://www.sendspace.com/file/nghpbu



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By Popular Demand....i guess

http://www.sendspace.com/file/h0z35v


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Subject: Charlton Bullseye v.1 #05 Upload
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This rounds out the series from 1975, enjoy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/40txp4


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This issue is the first of the second series of Charlton Bullseye and=20
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "powerrecordsnut"=20
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Link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2ierin



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Any chance of getting these in a format a Mac can use?

Thanks,
Ed


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I opened none of these even though I would like to have because McAfee site Advisor turned Red and indicated sendspace used adwareor spyware.


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sendspace link is for a html file. could someone advise me as to how to
convert this to a readable file? thanks to one & all in advance: Joe

On 5/28/07, powerrecordsnut <theshiverman@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks much.

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Thanks again.

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Thanks and double thanks.

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> This issue is the first of the second series of Charlton Bullseye=20
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Link

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Charlton Bullseye v.2 #02

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Ed wrote:

 >Any chance of getting these in a format a Mac can use?

Who says it isn't?

Try ComicBookLover. It works beautifully. Here's some info:

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/28400

Enjoy!

Richard



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Here's a link to a Tony Tallarico interview. It discusses his work at=20
Charlton, Dell, Warren, and elsewhere. Here's the link:

http://www.collectortimes.com/2006_08/Clubhouse.html

Enjoy!

Dean


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Thanks.

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Charlton Bullseye v.2 #03
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Once again, thanks.

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No Problem man.


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> Once again, thanks.
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From chromium_foil@yahoo.ca Sat Jun 02 07:53:35 2007
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Hi Folks,
   
  Can anyone identify this artist of this scanned attached page-? It is from Marine Heroes # 9, a Charlton silver age comic book.
   
  I'm looking for anything by Canadian artist, my late friend Owen McCarron from my home city, Halifax.
   
  I don't think this is him, but then again, he may've changed his style for this war story. He did a number of war comics for Charlton in the silver age including this title. This story is not credited with the artist's name.
   
  Hoping someone can help...
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

       
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From: "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tony Tallarico Interview!
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Great, Dean! Thanks so much for posting this. I used to like his and Fracci=
o's "Tony=20
Williamsune" stuff in the Warren mags, even though at the time I couldn't f=
igure out why I=20
liked it--much the same way I couldn't figure out why Jerry Grandanetti and=
 Tom Sutton were=20
so fascinating. At the time, the "traditionalists" like Crandall, Williamso=
n, Wood, and so on=20
were tops with me.

Mike

> Here's a link to a Tony Tallarico interview. It discusses his work at=20
> Charlton, Dell, Warren, and elsewhere. Here's the link:
>=20
> http://www.collectortimes.com/2006_08/Clubhouse.html
>=20
> Enjoy!
>=20
> Dean
>



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Subject: Charlton Comics Grab Bag #1
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I so agree with you about Tallarcio, Grandenetti, Sutton and other=20
stylists. They don't seem to be every fanboy's cup of tea, but even=20
back in the day I loved them. Grandenetti especially had that special=20
something that made his work mesmerizng. His ghosts stories are second=20
to none. Tallarico is often used as the butt of jokes when vintage=20
comics are discussed and I can see why there is disdain, but I've=20
always always like the work of the Tallarcio-Fraccio team. The work had=20
a charm and a flair that even as a boy I plugged into. There's no=20
denying the crisp beauty of a Giordano page or the taught elegance of a=20
Morisi page, but Tony and Bill had a life and movement in their work=20
that eluded many other artists of the day.

Dean


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Hey, thanks.  Some really good stuff here.

powerrecordsnut <theshiverman@hotmail.com> wrote:          http://www.megau=
pload.com/?d=3DHDYRXO80



=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20

=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
---------------------------------
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.=20

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Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1

Note: forwarded message attached.
       
---------------------------------
Luggage? GPS? Comic books? 
Check out fitting  gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.

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Dean, you're absolutely right. Sure, Tallarico was no Adams or Ditko. But h=
e knew=20
storytelling and he was fast and professional to the core. Charlton editori=
al could rely on=20
him to produce and deliver, and that says a lot compared with today's hotsh=
ot artists who=20
can't seem to get a six-issue miniseries done on schedule for far more doug=
h than the=20
Charlton artists were pulling down. Tallarico packaged a myriad of magazine=
s and special=20
projects for Charlton and other publishers for decades, and he has done ton=
s of kids'=20
books on basic drawing that are purely delightful, too. How many current co=
mic artists=20
have that kind of versatility and production know-how?

Mike

>
> I so agree with you about Tallarcio, Grandenetti, Sutton and other=20
> stylists. They don't seem to be every fanboy's cup of tea, but even=20
> back in the day I loved them. Grandenetti especially had that special=20
> something that made his work mesmerizng. His ghosts stories are second=20
> to none. Tallarico is often used as the butt of jokes when vintage=20
> comics are discussed and I can see why there is disdain, but I've=20
> always always like the work of the Tallarcio-Fraccio team. The work had=20
> a charm and a flair that even as a boy I plugged into. There's no=20
> denying the crisp beauty of a Giordano page or the taught elegance of a=20
> Morisi page, but Tony and Bill had a life and movement in their work=20
> that eluded many other artists of the day.
>=20
> Dean
>



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Reuben Reuben=20
<redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
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> Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1
>=20
> Note: forwarded message attached.
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Rob Allen


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Rob:
=20=20=20
  Below are links to Doomsday +1 downloads.
=20=20=20
  ummagummadivx <ummagummadivx@ yahoo.com> wrote:=20
      Conan the Barbarian
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Doomday + 1
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 34921069/ Doomsday_ _1_01.cbr
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Rob Allen <robertwallen2001@yahoo.com> wrote:          --- In CharltonBulls=
eye@yahoogroups.com, Reuben Reuben=20
<redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
>
> Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1
>=20
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Those of us who read the group on the website did not see the=20
attachment. What did it say?

Rob Allen



=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20

=20
---------------------------------
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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E-Man (Charlton)
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http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35475782/ E-Man_06_ _Charlton_ .cbr
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35475783/ E-Man_07_ _Charlton_ .cbr
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35475784/ E-Man_08_ _Charlton_ .cbr
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35475787/ E-Man_09_ _Charlton_ .cbr



Rob Allen <robertwallen2001@yahoo.com> wrote:          --- In CharltonBulls=
eye@yahoogroups.com, Reuben Reuben=20
<redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
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> Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1
>=20
> Note: forwarded message attached.
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Those of us who read the group on the website did not see the=20
attachment. What did it say?

Rob Allen



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---=20

 What are you referring to about Doomsday +1 ?







In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Reuben Reuben=20
<redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
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> Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1
>=20
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
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> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?=20
> Check out fitting  gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
>=20
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See download links, which follow:
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  Doomday + 1
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lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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What are you referring to about Doomsday +1 ?

In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Reuben Reuben=20
<redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
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> Thought the group might be interested in the Doomsday+1
>=20
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>=20
> ---------------------------------
> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?=20
> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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I just read a romance story that they did a really good job on.  But even with low page rates I do not see how you can justify printing something as ugly as the Dell MonsterHero comics.  These are some of my favorites because they are so bad.


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Conan the Barbarian
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35184296/ Conan_the_ Barbarian_ 011.cbz
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35184298/ Conan_the_ Barbarian_ 012.cbz
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35184299/ Conan_the_ Barbarian_ 013.cbz
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E-Man (Charlton)
http://rapidshare. com/files/ 35468503/ E-Man_01_ _Charlton_ .cbr
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Conan the Barbarian
http://rapidshare.com/files/35284567/Conan_the_Barbarian_021.cbz
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http://rapidshare.com/files/35288274/Conan_the_Barbarian_030.cbr

E-Man (First)
http://rapidshare.com/files/35481871/E-Man_1983__First__01.cbz
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_The_P.I._s_01.cbz
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http://rapidshare.com/files/35493876/E-Man_1983__First__24.cbz
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Space 1999
http://rapidshare.com/files/35300502/Space_1999_001.cbz
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http://rapidshare.com/files/35300508/Space_1999_006.cbz
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Hello Guy,
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  Sorry I haven't been in touch much lately. Still very ill. The details yo=
u know.
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  About the fanzine, kindly give me a few more days to finish reviewing the=
 material to you and to then get back to you on that topic.
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  Question:
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  Do you have any issus of The Fighting Eagle-? This isn't a scanning reque=
st, I'm just curious. I have issue # 51 of Fightin' Air Force featuring Ame=
rican Eagle. He is an American Indian and a USAF fighter jet pilot, with ea=
gles all over his shirt, flight jacket and helmet. He also has eagle feathe=
rs sticking up from the back of his fighter helmet. I think he was a very c=
ool character-! I wonder if anyone bought the rights to him from Charlton-?
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  Guy, was The American Eagle ONLY in Fightin' Army # 51-53-? And, can you =
give me a complete checklist of Willie Shulz appearances-?
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  Also, I'd like to know ALL appearances of The U.S.S. Stevens warship by S=
am Glanzman, for all companies. I know about the two Marvel Graphic novels =
the U.S.S. Stevens was in by Sam Glanzman. I have those....
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  Oh, anyone can answer these questions.
=20=20=20
  Best,
=20=20=20
  Phil Latter

GUY <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
          Hi Ken

there was an charlton war hero by the name American Eagle.He was in=20
Fightin' Air Force #51-53 and Willie Shultz from FIGHTIN' ARMY #75-92
Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman



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Um, before I download it....what's in grab bag # 2, please-?
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  Thanks.
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From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] American Eagle, Willie Shulz, and Sam Glanzman's The U.S.S. Stevens
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Phil,
Sorry to hear you are not well. I hope the diversion
comics can bring will help you through some of your
difficulties.

On the website of Charlton Spotlight Magazine
(www.charltonspotlight.com) there is a page called
Characters. It lists all (well, most) of Charlton's
characters, including interesting stuff like
Creator(s), First appearances, Appearances and so
forth. You will find the last especially interesting,
as it lists characters' appearances. Including
American Eagle and Captain Willy/Willie
Schulz/Schultz.

Best,
Ramon

--- Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Hello Guy,
>    
>   Sorry I haven't been in touch much lately. Still
> very ill. The details you know.
>    
>   About the fanzine, kindly give me a few more days
> to finish reviewing the material to you and to then
> get back to you on that topic.
>    
>   Question:
>    
>   Do you have any issus of The Fighting Eagle-? This
> isn't a scanning request, I'm just curious. I have
> issue # 51 of Fightin' Air Force featuring American
> Eagle. He is an American Indian and a USAF fighter
> jet pilot, with eagles all over his shirt, flight
> jacket and helmet. He also has eagle feathers
> sticking up from the back of his fighter helmet. I
> think he was a very cool character-! I wonder if
> anyone bought the rights to him from Charlton-?
>    
>   Guy, was The American Eagle ONLY in Fightin' Army
> # 51-53-? And, can you give me a complete checklist
> of Willie Shulz appearances-?
>    
>   Also, I'd like to know ALL appearances of The
> U.S.S. Stevens warship by Sam Glanzman, for all
> companies. I know about the two Marvel Graphic
> novels the U.S.S. Stevens was in by Sam Glanzman. I
> have those....
>    
>   Oh, anyone can answer these questions.
>    
>   Best,
>    
>   Phil Latter
> 
> GUY <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
>           Hi Ken
> 
> there was an charlton war hero by the name American
> Eagle.He was in 
> Fightin' Air Force #51-53 and Willie Shultz from
> FIGHTIN' ARMY #75-92
> Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman
> 
> 
> 
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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: The Dell Dracula superhero
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You know,
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  I really like the Dell Dracula series, which believe it or not to those w=
ho haven't seen them, he is a costumed superhero in this. But, his headpiec=
e makes him look like a fox in my opinion. I only have two or three of thos=
e. How many are there-?
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  Best,
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  Phil Latter

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In a message dated 6/10/2007 6:29:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
chromium_foil@yahoo.ca writes:

>I  only have two or three of those. How many are  there-?




Rather than fishing for you, I'm going to teach you to fish.
 
if you want this sort of info on paper, buying an old overstreet price  guide 
is possible for under $5.
prices and new info wont be good - but it will tell you about old  comics.
 
or the gcd  _www.comics.org_ (http://www.comics.org)    is very good about 
information about looking up information on super-hero  comics.  the time to do 
that is less than the time it took me to write  these couple sentances.
(although until the mirror server gets up, it is down at times).
 
answer:  as a superhero in # 2-4 and reprints in 6-8.  
so you might have all the stories.
 
steve rowe



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Phil:  I downloaded.  There was Charlton Bullseve V2 #6, Billy The Kid #92,=
 Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves #35, Vangenace Squad #5,  Flash Gordon #14, Phan=
tom #35, Tex Ritter # 37 & Korg #1.

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:          Um, before I download =
it....what's in grab bag # 2, please-?

Thanks.

Phil Latter

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Hey Guys,
 
I just wanted to say a BIG thank you to the folks who are posting these
books for us.  I am eating them up!  Please keep posting them!  My request: 
MORE PHANTOM!!!
 
You guys are great!!
 
Thanks!!!!!
 
Chuck Jeffers

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Ditto, ditto, ditto.  Thanks, thanks, thanks.

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I just wanted to say a BIG thank you to the folks who are posting these
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DCP Archive Edition - The Essential Captain Atom-Charlton Vol. 01


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You can find imageshack links to Bionic Woman here:

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es/THE%20BIONIC%20WOMAN/




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 Hi Ever one
 I was wondering if any one knew how many comics that Steve=20
 Ditko's Static Was in.I know of a total of 5 the 2 Charlton comics=20=20=20
 Charlton Action #11 &#12 and 3 of Ditko's World #1, #2and #3.=20
                     Thank you Guy



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "GUY" <sparkmang@...> wrote:
>
>  Hi Ever one
>  I was wondering if any one knew how many comics that Steve=20
>  Ditko's Static Was in.I know of a total of 5 the 2 Charlton comics  =
=20
>  Charlton Action #11 &#12 and 3 of Ditko's World #1, #2and #3.=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20


Ditko's World weren't published by Charlton.  They were published by=20
Renegade Press.

The first 3 Static stories were originally printed (in color) in=20
Eclipse Monthly #1-3.=20=20

The first 2 Static stories were revised for (re-)publication in=20
Charlton Action #11 & 12 (in b/w).

The third Static story was revised for (re-)publication in Ditko's=20
World #1.

The new fourth and fifth story were published for the first time in=20
Ditko World #2 and 3.

'chapters' #6-14 were published for the first time in the first Static=20
Trade paperback from Robin Snyder.  Snyder then reprinted the first 5=20
stories in a second paperback, then later came out with a complete=20
Static trade paperback.

FWIW, I know this because I collected all these comics when they came=20
out, but Bell's site: Ditko Looked Up is a good resource for gleening=20
this information.

Michael Brown





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=20
  Does anyone have any scans of these?
=20=20=20
  The first 2 Static stories were revised for (re-)publication in=20
Charlton Action #11 & 12 (in b/w).

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
          --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "GUY" <sparkmang@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Hi Ever one
> I was wondering if any one knew how many comics that Steve=20
> Ditko's Static Was in.I know of a total of 5 the 2 Charlton comics=20
> Charlton Action #11 &#12 and 3 of Ditko's World #1, #2and #3.=20
>=20

Ditko's World weren't published by Charlton. They were published by=20
Renegade Press.

The first 3 Static stories were originally printed (in color) in=20
Eclipse Monthly #1-3.=20

The first 2 Static stories were revised for (re-)publication in=20
Charlton Action #11 & 12 (in b/w).

The third Static story was revised for (re-)publication in Ditko's=20
World #1.

The new fourth and fifth story were published for the first time in=20
Ditko World #2 and 3.

'chapters' #6-14 were published for the first time in the first Static=20
Trade paperback from Robin Snyder. Snyder then reprinted the first 5=20
stories in a second paperback, then later came out with a complete=20
Static trade paperback.

FWIW, I know this because I collected all these comics when they came=20
out, but Bell's site: Ditko Looked Up is a good resource for gleening=20
this information.

Michael Brown



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Subject: E-Man
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Love that cover on the group home page.  E-Man was one of the most=20
original characters I'd ever seen at the time.  charlton had some=20
really good  stuff and some great creative people.  To bad they=20
folded.  Who knows what coulda been.=20=20


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There's a site called www.myromancestory.com that sells online romance=20
comics that are a cross between the traditional comic and novel form.=20=20
They post two free reads a day and today one of them has art by Don=20
Sherwood.  Don't know if he's done anymore of them or not.
Thought some of the members might want to check it out while it's free=20
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Thanks for posting this.

alwest662 <alwest662@yahoo.com> wrote:=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20

DCP Archive Edition - The Essential Captain Atom-Charlton Vol. 01

http://rapidshare.com/files/37121343/DCP_Archive_Edition_-
_The_Essential_Captain_Atom-Charlton_Vol._01__Jaklar-DCP_.cbr

If you have trouble with link

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http://kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=3D557240



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Subject: Golden Age Blue Beetle
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Hi Phil and ever 1 in this group I was wondering if anyone had Scans=20
of the Blue Beetle story from Mystery Men #1 in color.I am a big fan of=20
the Blue Beetle and would love to see it in color.=20

Thank you & God Bless Guy=20=20
Check out the 2 links below for down loads of comics and fanzines
http://savefile.com/projects/808506711
http://savefile.com/projects/808507487


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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: E-Man Returns Again Later This Summer!
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I just learned that another E-Man one-shot by Staton & Cuti is coming=20
out this fall from Digital Webbing. The one last year was very=20
entertaining and this one looks to be more of the same. Just thought=20
you guys might want to know!=20=20

Here's the solicitation:

"E-MAN: DOLLY
By Nicola Cuti, Joe Staton, Matt Webb
E-Man and the gang return for another all-new self-contained story!=20
On a mission in outer space, E-Man finds a little girl stranded in=20
the fabled area known as Null Space. Once on earth, he and Nova=20
discover Dolly's uncanny ability to control dolls, but who's=20
controlling Dolly? It's all-out action, adventure and fun in the=20
proud E-Man tradition."

There's also this for a signed edition of last year's one-shot:

"E-MAN RECHARGED COLLECTOR'S ITEM COVER - SIGNED
By Nicola Cuti, Joe Staton, Matt Webb
Signed by co-creator and artist Joe Staton. If you missed the first E-
Man one-shot, now's your chance to grab a copy. This cover was=20
offered as a retailer exclusive bonus. A very limited supply is=20
available. In this issue, the original creators reunite E-Man with=20
his girlfriend Nova Kane and their arch-nemesis, The Brain from=20
Sirius."

I don't have this cover, so I might indulge myself on this one. A=20
Staton signature is one of the few I actually crave.=20

Dean :)


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Dean, excellent news! Thanks for the alert! Last year's book was the best s=
ince the Charlton=20
days.

Mike A.

>
> I just learned that another E-Man one-shot by Staton & Cuti is coming=20
> out this fall from Digital Webbing. The one last year was very=20
> entertaining and this one looks to be more of the same. Just thought=20
> you guys might want to know!=20=20
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Howdy Listers,

I've just put a couple of very choice Charlton original art pages up for au=
ction on eBay. Please=20
check them out and, if interested, bid early and often:

Steve Ditko SF page from Charlton Premiere #4, 1968: http://www.tiny.cc/Xps=
vZ
Item # 110147358329

Jim Aparo "Wander" page from Cheyenne Kid #68, 1968: http://www.tiny.cc/gxO=
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Item # 110147360877

Both auctions end Sunday evening, July 15. Thanks for looking!

-Mike Ambrose



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Subject: DC Action Heroes Poster!
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Anyone get this one?=20

I didn't even know it existed until this morning when I came across it=20
on a blog. It apparently was released in 1986 to promote DC's use of=20
their newly purchased Action Heroes line. It's slick and somewhat=20
overproduced but the fact it featues all of the Action Heroes makes it=20
a real collectible for yours truly.=20

Dean




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Yep,
=20=20=20
  I have this large rolled, coloured poster of Judomaster, Blue Beetle, Sar=
ge Steel, Nightshade, Peacemaker, etc, etc.
=20=20=20
  I brought up the topic recently and was recently discussing it on the oth=
er Charlton yahoo group, charlton1@yahoogroups.com
=20=20=20
  I take it you aren't a member of that group?
=20=20=20
  Best Wishes,
=20=20=20
  Phil Latter
  Halifax, Nova Scotia

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Anyone get this one?=20

I didn't even know it existed until this morning when I came across it=20
on a blog. It apparently was released in 1986 to promote DC's use of=20
their newly purchased Action Heroes line. It's slick and somewhat=20
overproduced but the fact it featues all of the Action Heroes makes it=20
a real collectible for yours truly.=20

Dean



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>   I brought up the topic recently and was recently discussing it on
> the other Charlton yahoo group, charlton1@yahoogroups.com
=20=20=20=20
I think you mean http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l - unless=20
there's another group that I don't know about. I think I recall the=20
discussion of the poster.


Rob Allen


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I'm delighted to announce that my store, 30th Century Comics in
Putney, London, will be hosting a return signing by Alan Class,
publisher of the popular fantasy titles Creepy Worlds, Secrets of the
Unknown, Sinister Tales and many other series, following our
successful event in 2005. I'm posting this message to Charlton
Bullseye, Charlton-l and Timely/Atlas lists because Alan's comics
extensively reprinted Charlton and Atlas material in affordable
format, but if anyone knows of another thematically appropriate=20
list which may be interested - one about ACG, or the Mighty/Radio=20
super-heroes, for example - please do feel free to forward it to them.=20
Judiciously, mind - no spamming!
For thirty years, the comics published by Alan Class - Creepy Worlds,=20
Astounding Stories, Secrets of the Unknown, Sinister Tales, Suspense
and Uncanny Tales - were part of the landscape of every comics reader
growing up in Britain. These black & white squarebound compilations,
usually 68 pages, gathered an astonishing diversity of material,
including ACG, Charlton, Atlas, Tower, Archie's super-heroes, and the
early years of Marvel. A vintage Lee/Kirby "Big Monster" tale would
nestle next to an adventure of Fly-Man, a handful of Charlton
mysteries, and a 1966 Daredevil tale, without regard to the original
provenance of the stories.
Despite the seemingly random story selection, many unexpected
treasures lurked within; a short sequential run of Fantastic Four from
#1, in Creepy Worlds from 32 onwards, or a two-page Sun Girl story
from Marvel Tales # 97,the last Timely super-hero story, in Astounding
67 and Suspense 30. Other oddities and rarities include Blue Bolt,
Nyoka the Jungle Girl, Captain Midnight, Captain Video, and "Kolah", a
re-titled Rulah Jungle Empress, as well as copious amounts of material
from Kirby, Ditko, Everett, Maneely, Wood and other classic creators
at the height of their powers.
Alan Class is now selling his file copies, including early numbers and=20
short-run series, exclusively through Putney's 30th Century Comics. He
will be making a personal appearance at 30th Century at 18 Lower
Richmond Road, Putney, London, between 2 and 5pm on Sunday 29th July
2007, to sign copies from his file collection, and talk about his
career in comics publishing.
Alan has now released further file copies from his private collection
and will be signing these at our shop. These include many #1 issues.
Each comic will also come with an individual hand-signed Certificate
of Authenticity.=20
Also available will be a limited quantity of Collectors' Sets
consisting of the comic, the four-colour printing plates used to
produce the matching cover and a Certificate of Authenticity. There
will be new-to- the-market Collectors' Sets available on the day and a
special price promotion will also be available on these.
Enquiries regarding the Alan Class collection may be directed to 30th=20
Century on 020-87882052 or sales@30thcenturycomics.co.uk=20
Full details of new issues available, plus new printing plate sets and
the special price promotion on these will be posted on our website -=20
www.30thcenturycomics.co.uk - shortly.
Alan Class certificated comics and collectors' sets are also available
by mail order for those who can't make it on the day. Details on our
website or contact us!


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Yes,=20
  That's the group. We both chatted about it.
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  Best,
=20=20=20
  Phil
=20=20=20
  SNIP

Rob Allen <robertwallen2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>=20=20=20=20
>   I take it you aren't a member of that group?
>=20=20=20=20

As a matter of fact, I am. I just must've missed that exchange.

I find the poster very attractive, in an 80's overwrought kind of way.

Dean


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Howdy Listers,

I've just put two more nice Charlton original art pages from my collection =
up for auction on=20
eBay. Please check them out and, if interested, bid early and often:

Wayne Howard horror page from Ghostly Haunts 1976, Item #110149646274

Sanho Kim horror page from Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves 1973, Item #1101496496=
90

My eBay Seller list:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmikeargo1QQhtZ-1

Both auctions end Sunday afternoon, July 22. Thanks for looking!

-Mike Ambrose


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That Wayne Howard page is really choice! I love that it's a one-page=20
story, making a real total package. I wish I had the cash to pick it up=20
but alas not to be.

Dean


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Hi, All.  In case you're interested in Manhunter (and manhunters) here is a group to check out.  In the files you'll find a DC Manhunter story, a quality Manhunter story and an Australian Manhunter story.
   
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ManhuntersLair/?yguid=258006897

       
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Hi Dean,

You're right, there aren't many one-pagers like this and so nicely displaya=
ble. Don't be afraid=20
to bid. Reserve is only 75 bucks. Skip a few cups at Sawbux and gitcherself=
 a fine-grind=20
Wayne Howard page!

Best,
Mike

> That Wayne Howard page is really choice! I love that it's a one-page=20
> story, making a real total package. I wish I had the cash to pick it up=20
> but alas not to be.
>=20
> Dean
>



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Hi folks, Just a reminder that these two auctions end in 24 hours. Thanks f=
or looking!

-Mike

> Howdy Listers,
>=20
> I've just put two more nice Charlton original art pages from my collectio=
n up for auction on=20
> eBay. Please check them out and, if interested, bid early and often:
>=20
> Wayne Howard horror page from Ghostly Haunts 1976, Item #110149646274
>=20
> Sanho Kim horror page from Many Ghosts of Dr. Graves 1973, Item #11014964=
9690
>=20
> My eBay Seller list:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmikeargo1QQhtZ-1
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> Both auctions end Sunday afternoon, July 22. Thanks for looking!
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> -Mike Ambrose
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Some More Charlton War

FIGHTIN' ARMY COMIC BOOK=20

#54 and #114  the comics stories are complete

#44 has has a missing page

The samplers has a mix of covers
misc and incomplete comics.

most of these were on usenet replayer


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Subject: Space Adventures presents Rocky Jones, Space Ranger
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Anyone familiar with Space Adventures #15-18 from 1952?  I'm
especially interested in any comments re:  the character Vena Ray.
Thanks,
Darci


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No but I would love to have them and if anyone has some they could scan and put on 4 share
http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html


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OOPS, sorry! See some of them.

Still if anyone has any insight that would be helpful. For instance=20=20
the "Flash Gordon 014.cbr" file tries to open in Word and is all=20=20
jibberish.

Anywhere I could go to learn about the extensions and what does and=20=20
doesn't work on a Mac?

Thanks,
Ed



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> From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
> Date: July 29, 2007 10:47:12 PM PDT
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Space Adventures presents Rocky=20=20
> Jones, Space Ranger
>
>
> Don't know what the extensions mean on most of the files listed but=20=20
> I can not seem to see any of them on my Mac. Am I just out of luck=20=20
> or am I downloading them wrong?
>
> Ed
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2007, at 10:40 AM, <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>=20=20
> <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> No but I would love to have them and if anyone has some they could=20=20
>> scan and put on 4 share
>> http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
>>
>>
>>=20
>



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Don't know what the extensions mean on most of the files listed but I=20=20
can not seem to see any of them on my Mac. Am I just out of luck or=20=20
am I downloading them wrong?

Ed


On Jul 28, 2007, at 10:40 AM, <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>=20=20
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> No but I would love to have them and if anyone has some they could=20=20
> scan and put on 4 share
> http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
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>
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Ed

This page might help.

http://filext.com/


Jim~>

:)


--- Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net> wrote:

> OOPS, sorry! See some of them.
> 
> Still if anyone has any insight that would be
> helpful. For instance  
> the "Flash Gordon 014.cbr" file tries to open in
> Word and is all  
> jibberish.
> 
> Anywhere I could go to learn about the extensions
> and what does and  
> doesn't work on a Mac?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
> > Date: July 29, 2007 10:47:12 PM PDT
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Space
> Adventures presents Rocky  
> > Jones, Space Ranger
> >
> >
> > Don't know what the extensions mean on most of the
> files listed but  
> > I can not seem to see any of them on my Mac. Am I
> just out of luck  
> > or am I downloading them wrong?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2007, at 10:40 AM,
> <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>  
> > <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> >> No but I would love to have them and if anyone
> has some they could  
> >> scan and put on 4 share
> >>
>
http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
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Dear Ed,

I open up the Flash Gordon # 14

and it worked find.

You have to have a program that reads

rar or cbr files.

Can you see the zip or cbz files?

Let me know if you can or not

see the FG # 14.

I could try to post it in another format.

H.


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ed

what extensions are you having a problem with on the mac?

and what system are you using? that is, which mac operating system?

dave






On 30 Jul 2007, at 09:50, Ed Savage wrote:

> OOPS, sorry! See some of them.
>
> Still if anyone has any insight that would be helpful. For instance
> the "Flash Gordon 014.cbr" file tries to open in Word and is all
> jibberish.
>
> Anywhere I could go to learn about the extensions and what does and
> doesn't work on a Mac?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
> > Date: July 29, 2007 10:47:12 PM PDT
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Space Adventures presents Rocky
> > Jones, Space Ranger
> >
> >
> > Don't know what the extensions mean on most of the files listed but
> > I can not seem to see any of them on my Mac. Am I just out of luck
> > or am I downloading them wrong?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2007, at 10:40 AM, <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
> > <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> >> No but I would love to have them and if anyone has some they could
> >> scan and put on 4 share
> >> http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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>
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Thanks - I'll give it a look

Ed



On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Jim Johnston wrote:

> Ed
>
> This page might help.
>
> http://filext.com/
>
> Jim~>
>
> :)
>
> --- Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > OOPS, sorry! See some of them.
> >
> > Still if anyone has any insight that would be
> > helpful. For instance
> > the "Flash Gordon 014.cbr" file tries to open in
> > Word and is all
> > jibberish.
> >
> > Anywhere I could go to learn about the extensions
> > and what does and
> > doesn't work on a Mac?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
> > > Date: July 29, 2007 10:47:12 PM PDT
> > > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Space
> > Adventures presents Rocky
> > > Jones, Space Ranger
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't know what the extensions mean on most of the
> > files listed but
> > > I can not seem to see any of them on my Mac. Am I
> > just out of luck
> > > or am I downloading them wrong?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 28, 2007, at 10:40 AM,
> > <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
> > > <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> No but I would love to have them and if anyone
> > has some they could
> > >> scan and put on 4 share
> > >>
> >
> http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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I repost the Flash Gordon # 14 Charlton Comics as a zip file.

I checked to see and it works on my computer!


http://www.4shared.com/dir/2191452/6102d0ae/sharing.html
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Someone ask me at another online location about Charlton digests. I'd=20
never heard of them, but following directions I found reference to them=20
in the newest Overstreet Price Guide (page 111 to be exact). It=20
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and Space:1999.=20

I've never heard of these, and frankly the information seems internally=20
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and Road Runner comics and these are mentioned too. Is the writer=20
instead thinking of Gold Key digests? That's consistent with what they=20
published. If so, what's the deal with Space:1999? I've can find no=20
reference to such a book.

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Zip files are probably better for most people and windows will open them.  I had to download a program to open rar once before.  To open the cbz or cbr files I have to change the extension to rar for the program to recognize them.


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Thanks - I'll try that


Ed

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> Zip files are probably better for most people and windows will open  
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> program to recognize them.
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Check out this site.  There are Charltons available for dl.  See the list of publishers on the left side.

http://freecomicbooks.blogspot.com/



       
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Brazilian Reprints of Charlton Comics

Hercules_01_bloch.rar

http://www.4shared.com/file/15609332/a35c8d6d/Hercules_01_bloch.html

Historias_de_kung_fu_04_bloch.rar

http://www.4shared.com/file/15609327/ca2d48a3/Historias_de_kung_fu_04
_bloch.html

Do not know if anyone is interested in this sort of thing

but I did a search on 4shared of Bloch

Bloch is a Brazilian Comic Company.

I found these 2 reprints of Charlton Comic!

The Kung Fu comic is "Yang"


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Not yet, Rik,
But it's a great idea. I'll see what duplicates I have (quite a few), and see which figures would be suitable to repaint and resculpt into other figures. Like Mighty Crusaders figures. 

As I said, I repainted a current Hourman figure (black cape) over into the golden age Hourman. I also repainted a golden age Green Lantern, as his colour scheme was off. He had a one colour cape inside and out. Not anymore. 

I also turned a Silver Age (Hal Jordan) Green Lantern into Charlton's Captain Atom, in his original yellow, orange and red costume with mask.

Best Wishes,

Phil

PS to Rik. There are at least a couple of people who have applied to join our joint Continuity chat site. Can you approve those memberships, Rik? Or, tell me how to do it and I will take care of it.

Rik Offenberger <rik.offenberger@gmail.com> wrote:                                  
Phil,
  
 did you repaint any as the crusaders?
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
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      Terry,
It'd be easy enough to repaint some Heroclix figures to Mighty    Crusaders figures, and other characters as well. I repainted an extra NEW DC    Hourman (black cape) to the Golden Age version, and have changed some others    to other characters as well.

Off topic, I'm getting ready to send you,    Terry, a bunch of new comics free, but I still need to know if you want some    Impact/-DC Mighty Crusaders type comics (various titles including Legend Of    the Shield, etc,etc). If so, which ones do ya need? I haveta know by Sunday,    as the package is going out in the mail on Monday bright and early, with or    without them.

Thanks,

Best    Wishes,

Phil

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     Hey-ho,Folks!
     Anyone visiting CBO [www.comicbitsonline.com] will know that I've      featured HeroClix and other game figures from Wizkids.
      
     I know we had a link somewhere to conversions someone had done making      MLJ characters. As Wizkids do INDY figures I wondered how many people      here do game and how many would be buying if Wizkids did MLJ figures?
      
     Just a curious question...interested in the answers!!
     T
     
     
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Hi Listers,

From the vaults, I have two more choice pieces of original art for sale to =
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Pat Boyette air war page, "MiG Alley," from Fightin' Marines 1976, and Tom =
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'em out here:

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here are some you can take a look at.
=20=20=20
  http://rapidshare.com/files/44205741/Space_Adventures_001.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44205742/Space_Adventures_002.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44205743/Space_Adventures_003.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44205745/Space_Adventures_004.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44205746/Space_Adventures_005.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44210570/Space_Adventures_006.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44210571/Space_Adventures_007.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44210572/Space_Adventures_008.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44210574/Space_Adventures_009.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44210575/Space_Adventures_013.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44220406/Space_Adventures_014.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44220408/Space_Adventures_015.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44220409/Space_Adventures_016.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44220411/Space_Adventures_017.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44220412/Space_Adventures_018.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44224735/Space_Adventures_020.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44224736/Space_Adventures_021.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44224737/Space_Adventures_024.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44224738/Space_Adventures_025.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/44224739/Space_Adventures_026.cbr

  enjoy
=20=20

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especially interested in any comments re: the character Vena Ray.
Thanks,
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Here's some sad news. Will Franz the writer of "The Lonely War Of=20
Captain Willie Schultz" is not doing well. To raise funds for him, his=20
partner from so long ago Sam Glanzman is selling his original Willie=20
Schultz stories on ebay.=20

For the full story and a link to the sales, check out the link to Mark=20
Evanier's POVOnline below:

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_09_02.html#013948


Dean


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Attack 16, 18, 21, 23, 32, 38

[img]http://i12.tinypic.com/4xn087q.jpg[/img]

http://rapidshare.com/files/53743469/Attack_016.cbr
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Mad Draftsman,
Thanks, I've posted some selections of Vena in the Photos.
Darci

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, one with chaos
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> here are some you can take a look at.
>=20=20=20=20
>   enjoy
>=20=20=20
>=20
> darci386 <darci386@...> wrote:
>           Anyone familiar with Space Adventures #15-18 from 1952? I'm
> especially interested in any comments re: the character Vena Ray.
> Thanks,
> Darci


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Below is a link to some Charlton comics.  Such things as Judo Master, Hercules, Blue Beetle, fightin' Army, etc.  Enjoy.  (Unfortunatley they are in rapid share so it may take you a number of days to download all of them.) 
   
   
  http://www.freecomicbooks.org/search/label/Charlton%20Comics

       
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Subject: Sutton, Staton, Sattler painted covers on eBay
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Howdy listers,

I've dug three more classic painted Charlton covers out of the vaults for s=
ale on eBay:

Tom Sutton, Love Diary #97, Charlton 1976, Item # 110171029437
Joe Staton, Emergency! #2, Charlton 1976, Item # 110171033219
Warren Sattler, Yang #10, Charlton 1975, Item # 110171034910

Link to my auctions (seller ID: mikeargo1): http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsas=
sZmikeargo1

These are my last three painted covers. All auctions end next Sunday aftern=
oon, Sept. 23.=20
Thanks for your interest. All bids appreciated!

Mike Ambrose



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Hi, all,

Going to be in Calgary, Alberta, Canada the week of October 9th.

Anything interesting happening there re: comics or comic shops, art  
museums. etc. I should check out?

Thanks,
Ed 

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Here's a link to Mark Evanier's POVOnline blog where he has put=20
together some Youtube bits for the complete BBC documentary on the=20
career of Steve Ditko. It focuses on his Marvel work mostly, but some=20
small mention is made of The Question. Sadly neither Captain Atom nor=20
Blue Beetle get any mention whatsoever.

Here's the link:

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_09_21.html#014062

Enjoy!

Dean


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Subject: Link to lots of Charlton Comics!
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Link to lots of Charlton Comics!

Some are westerns!


http://www.freecomicbooks.org/search/label/Charlton%20Comics


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Subject: I Want My Dolly - E-Man Sightings?
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Has anyone here seen or gotten the latest advertised E-Man offering
from Digital Webing? I thought it was supposed to be out in September,
but I haven't seen it nor read anywhere about it but at Digital's
website yet.

I'm very anxious to enjoy some more Nick Cuti-Joe Staton goodness, so
any info on this one will be much appreciated. And it seems they've
advertised (at least) that next March will give us a third new E-Man
adventure. I like how this is sounding, but I want issues in hand to
read.

Thanks in advance fellows!

Oh and here is a link to the Digital Webing page:

http://blog.digitalwebbing.com/category/e-man/

Cheers!

Dean



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Howdy listers,

I've just put one of my Frank McLaughlin Judomaster original art pages on e=
Bay:

Frank McLaughlin, Judomaster page, 1st appearance from Special War Series #=
4, Charlton=20
1965 Item # 110176009940

Link to my auctions (seller ID: mikeargo1):
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmikeargo1

Thanks for your interest. All bids appreciated!

Mike Ambrose



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I am still waiting for it to arrive at my favorite shop!

Rome 
 
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From: ripjagger
Date: 09/29/07 08:45:15
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] I Want My Dolly - E-Man Sightings?
 
Has anyone here seen or gotten the latest advertised E-Man offering
from Digital Webing? I thought it was supposed to be out in September,
but I haven't seen it nor read anywhere about it but at Digital's
website yet.

I'm very anxious to enjoy some more Nick Cuti-Joe Staton goodness, so
any info on this one will be much appreciated. And it seems they've
advertised (at least) that next March will give us a third new E-Man
adventure. I like how this is sounding, but I want issues in hand to
read.

Thanks in advance fellows!

Oh and here is a link to the Digital Webing page:

http://blog.digitalwebbing.com/category/e-man/

Cheers!

Dean


 
 

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Thanks for the info. I'll keep watching for it.

Dean

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> I am still waiting for it to arrive at my favorite shop!
>=20
> Rome=20
>=20=20



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From: "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
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Howdy listers,

I've just put the original art for a complete Tom Sutton 7-page horror stor=
y (from Marvel's=20
Tower of Shadows #4, 1970) on eBay, Item # 110178445432:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&rd=3D1&item=3D110178445432&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT&ih=3D001

Auction ends next Sunday afternoon, Oct. 14. Thanks for your interest. All =
bids appreciated!

Mike Ambrose



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I've just put a couple more original art auctions up on eBay, a Jose Delbo =
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http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmikeargo1

Thanks for your interest. All bids appreciated!

Mike Ambrose



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From: "alwest662" <alwest662@yahoo.com>
Subject: about A.C. Comics Western
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about A.C. Comics Western

I hated to see that Rapidshare deleted

all those A.C. Comics westerns.

I have been a fan and bought many of these

when they first came out.

I did not get a chance to save any files.

Does any one know where else I could find scans

of these comics?

How about the ME Comics they were reprinted from!

I am mainly interested in the Dick Ayers & Joe Certa stuff

but will take what I can get!

Al West


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From: "Alan Goldsmith" <alangoldsmith@yahoo.com>
Subject: Franz/Glanzman Question
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=09

I need a bit of help here. I bought the original artwork for the Willi
Franz & Sam Glanzman HUERTGEN MINEFIELD story (the benefit for Franz)
on ebay a few weeks back. On the splashpanel, Army War Heroes # 30 is
listed on the editor notes/rubber stamp info as the publication
infomation. But...when I tracked down a copy of AWH # 30, the story
isn't there (but there IS another Franz/Granzman story).


Can anyone answer this question?

And...if anyone have copies of Fightin' Army76, 79, 86  and 91 for
sale (the last Willy Schultz issues I need to complete my set) send me
an email.

Thanks!



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...>=20
wrote:
>
> Someone ask me at another online location about Charlton digests.=20
I'd=20
> never heard of them, but following directions I found reference to=20
them=20
> in the newest Overstreet Price Guide (page 111 to be exact). It=20
> mentions Hanna-Barbera characters such as the Flintstones, Scooby=20
Doo,=20
> and Space:1999.=20
>=20
> I've never heard of these, and frankly the information seems=20
internally=20
> inconsistent. To my knowledge Charlton never published Woody=20
Woodpecker=20
> and Road Runner comics and these are mentioned too. Is the writer=20
> instead thinking of Gold Key digests? That's consistent with what=20
they=20
> published. If so, what's the deal with Space:1999? I've can find no=20
> reference to such a book.
>=20
> Anyone familiar with Charlton digests?=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance! :)


The best place to find that out is probly www.comics.com/



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I expect you mean:
www.comics.org
 
CEde

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The best place to find that out is probly www.comics.com/

 



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From ramonschenk@yahoo.com Wed Nov 21 07:56:21 2007
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Think you mean www.comics.org, the Grand Comic-Book
Database. But they are not there, either. I am
considering putting some up, at least the ones that
have sort-of sequential art. The others are just
illustrated story books.

Best,
Ramon

--- Douglas <DALLAN@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> The best place to find that out is probly
> www.comics.com/



      ____________________________________________________________________________________
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To all my fellow US folks,

(avoiding "My Fellow Americans" since I am not running for President)

Happy Thanksgiving. I enjoy lurking: reading comments, research  
results, snappy repartee, great posts of images/news articles, bad  
(and occasionally good) puns, and just general all round posts. It  
has been a fun and enlightening year. Keep it up.

Ed

p.s. Greg, for some reason my birthday greeting never showed up -  
Happy Birthday. Have several of your pubs and will be buying more in  
the future.

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Lots of Charlton Comics including

Tales of the Mysterious Traveler 10

UsenetBinaries.com=20

this is a pay site but they allow

3 or 4 pages daily with a free account.

I do not have a pay account but recommend if

you do not want to take a week to download a=20

full comic.


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Al:  I have a free account there and I know what you mean.  did you by chance notice any Captain Atom there?

alwest662 <alwest662@yahoo.com> wrote:          Lots of Charlton Comics including

Tales of the Mysterious Traveler 10

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I do not have a pay account but recommend if

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full comic.



                         

       
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Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!
  Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.
   
  This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.
   
  It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.
   
  Best,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Just saw that issue. 
   
  I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.
  
  
 
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  ----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
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Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

  Betty,
   
  In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.
   
  While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. 
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
      
  Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.
   
  Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)
   
  But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.
   
  You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.
 
=====
Betty Dobson
InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com   

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AM
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  Betty,
  Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
      
  SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!
 
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http://inkspotter.com   

  ----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PM
Subject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

      Folks,
   
  I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.
   
  The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that-be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.
   
  One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would still
  cost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. 
   
  Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.
   
  Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.
   
  So now we come to you!
   
  We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!
  What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!
   
  I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!
   
  Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!
   
  I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax
    
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Phillie isnt Charlton Bullseye a dead group?
   
  Kendra S.

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!
Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.

This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.

It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.

Best,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Just saw that issue. 

I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.



=====
Betty Dobson
InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com 

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AM
Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

Betty,

In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.

While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. 

Best Wishes,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.

Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)

But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.

You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.

=====
Betty Dobson
InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com 

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AM
Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

Betty,
Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?

Thanks,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:

SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!

=====
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InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com 

----- Original Message ----
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To: canadiancomics@yahoogroups.com; canuckcomics@yahoogroups.com; guardiansofthenorth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PM
Subject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

Folks,

I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.

The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that-be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.

One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would still
cost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. 

Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.

Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.

So now we come to you!

We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!
What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!

I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!

Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!

I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter
Halifax

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I Hope you will all come and enjoy the show. Take care.


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> Phillie isnt Charlton Bullseye a dead group?
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>   Kendra S.
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The Charlton Bullseye is still around and kicking. Yahoo Groups go into=20
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Oops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.
   
  Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!
  Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.
   
  This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.
   
  It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.
   
  Best,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Just saw that issue. 
   
  I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.
  
  
 
=====
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InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com   

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AM
Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

  Betty,
   
  In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.
   
  While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. 
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
      
  Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.
   
  Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)
   
  But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.
   
  You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.
 
=====
Betty Dobson
InkSpotter Publishing
http://inkspotter.com   

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AM
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  Betty,
  Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@yahoo.ca> wrote:
      
  SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!
 
=====
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InkSpotter Publishing
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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PM
Subject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

      Folks,
   
  I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.
   
  The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that-be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.
   
  One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would still
  cost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. 
   
  Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.
   
  Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.
   
  So now we come to you!
   
  We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!
  What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!
   
  I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!
   
  Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!
   
  I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter
  Halifax
    
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I don't mind if some of  the groups I belong to are not too active.  It is easier on the email.  What I hate is the ones that aren't moderated and become spam infested.

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:          >
> Phillie isnt Charlton Bullseye a dead group?
> 
> Kendra S.
> 

The Charlton Bullseye is still around and kicking. Yahoo Groups go into 
hibernation from time to time and sometimes do indeed die. In the face 
of other Charlton Yahoo groups, we have a very very slow traffic 
indeed, but we are hardly dead.

Believe me, I manage a few groups that are truly dead and I keep them 
up and running just to store some cool links. 

Hang in there. Like mighty Charlton itself, the Charlton Bullseye will 
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Phil,
Aw, c'mon, give Sonia Sato a chance...
Darci

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            Oops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.

   

  Phil



Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

    Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!

  Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.

   

  This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.

   

  It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.

   

  Best,

   

  Phil



Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

          Just saw that issue. 

   

  I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.

  

  

 

=====

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InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com   



----- Original Message ----

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>

To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>

Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AM

Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT



Betty,

   

  In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.

   

  While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. 

   

  Best Wishes,

   

  Phil



Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

      

  Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.

   

  Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)

   

  But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.

   

  You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.

 

=====

Betty Dobson

InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com   



----- Original Message ----

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>

To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>

Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AM

Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT



Betty,

  Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?

   

  Thanks,

   

  Phil



Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

      

  SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!

 

=====

Betty Dobson

InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com   



----- Original Message ----

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To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; canuckcomics@ yahoogroups. com; guardiansofthenorth @yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PM

Subject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT



Folks,

   

  I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.

   

  The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that- be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.

   

  One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would still

  cost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. 

   

  Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.

   

  Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.

   

  So now we come to you!

   

  We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!

  What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!

   

  I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!

   

  Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!

   

  I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!

   

  Best Wishes,

   

  Phil Latter

  Halifax

    

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It is with great sadness that I report that Wayne Howard, longtime=20
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Sorry Darci,
   
  But I'm a fan of the classics, and Judomaster was and is my # 1 favourite of all of the 1960's Charlton 'action heroes.'
   
  Best,
   
  Phil

Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Phil,
Aw, c'mon, give Sonia Sato a chance...
Darci

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 12:30:47 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OT

Oops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.

Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!

Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.

This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.

It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.

Best,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

Just saw that issue. 

I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.

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InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com 

----- Original Message ----

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>

To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>

Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AM

Subject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

Betty,

In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.

While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. 

Best Wishes,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.

Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)

But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.

You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.

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InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com 

----- Original Message ----

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To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>

Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AM

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Betty,

Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?

Thanks,

Phil

Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!

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Betty Dobson

InkSpotter Publishing

http://inkspotter. com 

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To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; canuckcomics@ yahoogroups. com; guardiansofthenorth @yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PM

Subject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OT

Folks,

I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.

The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that- be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.

One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would still

cost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. 

Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.

Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.

So now we come to you!

We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!

What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!

I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!

Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!

I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

Halifax

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> It is with great sadness that I report that Wayne Howard, longtime=20
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I saw that at Evaniers site.  Its too bad that Wayne Howard didn't want=20
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I always wished someone would do a complete reprint of "Midnight=20
Tales".  I've been trying to get issues off eBay with little success.

Michael Brown


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Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a better job with them.Thank You & God Bless,  Guy E Sparkman  


To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.comFrom: darci386@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:10:53 -0800Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OT




Phil,Aw, c'mon, give Sonia Sato a chance...Darci----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@yahoogroups.com; charlton1@yahoogroups.com; charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, December 7, 2007 12:30:47 PMSubject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OTOops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.PhilPhil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-!Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.Best,PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Just saw that issue. I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.=====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp://inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still exists.While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. Best Wishes,PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.=====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp://inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?Thanks,PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!=====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp://inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; canuckcomics@ yahoogroups. com; guardiansofthenorth @yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PMSubject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTFolks,I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that- be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would stillcost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less expensive versions.Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.So now we come to you!We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!Remember, if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!Best Wishes,Phil LatterHalifax------------ --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------ --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? 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--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless,  Guy E Sparkman  
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
  So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...
   
  Best,
   
  Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
          --- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.
   
       Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

_________________________________

Plutonium Nightmare
a novel of The VOICE

By Erwin K. Roberts

In PDF or Print-On-Demand formats.
Free on-line preview of Intro & Chapters 1 & 2
Now on sale at http://www.lulu.com/Modern-Knights

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Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:          The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

_________________________________

Plutonium Nightmare
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By Erwin K. Roberts

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Free on-line preview of Intro & Chapters 1 & 2
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This is one where we most definately (but respectfully) disagree.

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By which I mean, O'Neil's Question was not Ditko's Question, and therefore an entirely different Question, why even call the character that if you were going to change it so much?
   
       Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote: The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

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--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

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I feel that it was the same Question but that, unlike a lot of one dimentional characters that Ditko did, (not to knock Ditko whose stuff I really like, but think about it...)....O'Neil's Question was a more realistic Question, with a real life, love, angst, an interesting name WITH an explanation. I'm talking about his alias.
   
  This was a more adult and mature Question. I think they were great. And it's not like Steve Ditko would have probably wanted to tackle The Question again anymore than he wanted to tackle Spiderman again.
  That's my two cents. The Question at DC, followed by, later, The Question Quarterly, man, that was good comics.
   
  Phil Latter

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
          By which I mean, O'Neil's Question was not Ditko's Question, and therefore an entirely different Question, why even call the character that if you were going to change it so much?

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote: The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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Kendra,
  You sure stirred up a hornet's nest by stating, quite correctly, that The Charlton Bullseye group was a dead group!
   
  It sure seems to be kickin' now!
   
  And Kendra, what did YOU think of the DC Question series? Did you follow that run?
   
  Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          I feel that it was the same Question but that, unlike a lot of one dimentional characters that Ditko did, (not to knock Ditko whose stuff I really like, but think about it...)....O'Neil's Question was a more realistic Question, with a real life, love, angst, an interesting name WITH an explanation. I'm talking about his alias.

This was a more adult and mature Question. I think they were great. And it's not like Steve Ditko would have probably wanted to tackle The Question again anymore than he wanted to tackle Spiderman again.
That's my two cents. The Question at DC, followed by, later, The Question Quarterly, man, that was good comics.

Phil Latter

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
By which I mean, O'Neil's Question was not Ditko's Question, and therefore an entirely different Question, why even call the character that if you were going to change it so much?

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote: The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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The version of the Question that DC did a few years back was more to my liking, as he seemed to be a man of mystery where not much was explained about him.  Although why Lois Lane had to be involved....
   
       Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
          Kendra,
You sure stirred up a hornet's nest by stating, quite correctly, that The Charlton Bullseye group was a dead group!

It sure seems to be kickin' now!

And Kendra, what did YOU think of the DC Question series? Did you follow that run?

Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I feel that it was the same Question but that, unlike a lot of one dimentional characters that Ditko did, (not to knock Ditko whose stuff I really like, but think about it...)....O'Neil's Question was a more realistic Question, with a real life, love, angst, an interesting name WITH an explanation. I'm talking about his alias.

This was a more adult and mature Question. I think they were great. And it's not like Steve Ditko would have probably wanted to tackle The Question again anymore than he wanted to tackle Spiderman again.
That's my two cents. The Question at DC, followed by, later, The Question Quarterly, man, that was good comics.

Phil Latter

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
By which I mean, O'Neil's Question was not Ditko's Question, and therefore an entirely different Question, why even call the character that if you were going to change it so much?

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote: The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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I actually liked that version, too, by Rick Veitch of 'Rarebit Fiends."
   
  Phil Latter

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
          The version of the Question that DC did a few years back was more to my liking, as he seemed to be a man of mystery where not much was explained about him. Although why Lois Lane had to be involved....

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Kendra,
You sure stirred up a hornet's nest by stating, quite correctly, that The Charlton Bullseye group was a dead group!

It sure seems to be kickin' now!

And Kendra, what did YOU think of the DC Question series? Did you follow that run?

Phil

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I feel that it was the same Question but that, unlike a lot of one dimentional characters that Ditko did, (not to knock Ditko whose stuff I really like, but think about it...)....O'Neil's Question was a more realistic Question, with a real life, love, angst, an interesting name WITH an explanation. I'm talking about his alias.

This was a more adult and mature Question. I think they were great. And it's not like Steve Ditko would have probably wanted to tackle The Question again anymore than he wanted to tackle Spiderman again.
That's my two cents. The Question at DC, followed by, later, The Question Quarterly, man, that was good comics.

Phil Latter

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
By which I mean, O'Neil's Question was not Ditko's Question, and therefore an entirely different Question, why even call the character that if you were going to change it so much?

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Umm....huh?

Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote: The DC Question series would have been great if it had portrayed the Question.

Allen Smith

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Actually, myself, I think The Question series was the one series that DC did right.
So, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Best,

Phil Latter

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> 
> 
> Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that
> DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have
> seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a
> better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 
> 

I can't quite agree with that. The first couple of issues of The
Blue Beetle showed more than a little promise.

And the version of The Question that guested in BB seemed pretty
close to the Ditko version. At least as close as anyone not
sharing Ditko's personal views is likely to get. Then came The
Question #1. I so looked forward to that book. In about 50 years
of reading & collecting comics I have NEVER been so disappointed.

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You know, the Charlton characters have fared poorly at DC.  I wouldn't have expected that of Dick Giordano.
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Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a better job with them.Thank You & God Bless,  Guy E Sparkman  



To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comFrom: darci386@yahoo. comDate: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:10:53 -0800Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OT



Phil,Aw, c'mon, give Sonia Sato a chance...Darci- ---- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; charlton1@yahoogrou ps.com; charltonbullseye@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, December 7, 2007 12:30:47 PMSubject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OTOops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.PhilPhil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-! Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in
 just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.Best, PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Just saw that issue. I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.=====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still
 exists.While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. Best Wishes,PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's
 not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.==== =Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson
 <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?Thanks, PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!= ====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; canuckcomics@ yahoogroups. com; guardiansofthenorth @yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PMSubject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTFolks,I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that- be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North
 America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would stillcost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less
 expensive versions.Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.So now we come to you!We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!Remember , if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!Best Wishes,Phil LatterHalifax- --------- -- --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------ --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!----- ------- --------- --------- ---Looking
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Count me in among the fans of O' Neil's take on the Question.

I also loved Veitch's take, except for that new age mumbo-jumbo  
ending. Ah, drugs...

The recent Question I had a lot of trouble with is Darwyn Cooke's  
idea of the character in Solo.

I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies through  
the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by bomb)  
by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't kill  
anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for someone  
who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded wholesale  
slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the  
"rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the way  
of the entertainment.

Stick to drawing, Darwyn. Maybe some day you'll even get a style of  
your own.

And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated  
Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of  
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By the way Darci, 
  The reason I am not happy about this new female Judomaster isn't because of the character's gender. 
  It's that I've been waiting in vain for something to be done with a favourite character of mine now at DC, the original Judomaster from Charlton Comics, and in his original costume, and that has never happened except in little panel cameos once in a blue moon, which doesn't count.
   
  There's also a new DC male Judomaster who was introduced way back in a Justice League Quarterly issue and then never seen again. I must say I don't care for him either.
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil

Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:
          You know, the Charlton characters have fared poorly at DC. I wouldn't have expected that of Dick Giordano.
Darci

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Hi I for 1 can't think of 1 of the Charlton Action Heroes that DC has done justice to yet and I would have preferred to have seen AC Comics continue to use them as I feel Bill Black did a better job with them.Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman 

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comFrom: darci386@yahoo. comDate: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:10:53 -0800Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OT

Phil,Aw, c'mon, give Sonia Sato a chance...Darci- ---- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; charlton1@yahoogrou ps.com; charltonbullseye@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, December 7, 2007 12:30:47 PMSubject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! & Judomaster OTOops. I should have mentioned that this all took place in the current eleventh issue of Justice Society Of America.PhilPhil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Okay. That issue of Justice Society Of America # (current issue) also showed a cameo of the original Silver Age Charlton Judomaster and Tiger in their original costumes, my favourite of the 1960 Charlton heroes being Judomaster-! Unfortunately, that issue debuts the all-new female Judomaster.This is at least the second, and maybe the third DC version. I've lost count.It was good to see the original Judomaster even if it was in
just one panel. I guess DC is never, ever going to use him. They used him in The L.A.W. series, but in a new yecch! costume.Best, PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Just saw that issue. I've got my fingers crossed, but I fully expect to be disappointed in the end.=====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 11:08:58 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,In the latest issue of Justice Society Of America ( # 11), there is a cameo of the Helena Wayne version of Huntress, as the golden age Flash (Jay Garrick) and the current Flash use the old cosmic treadmill to visit one of the new Earths of the new Multiverse. It's only a cameo so you may or may not wish to pick it up. Still, it proves that the Helena Wayne version of Huntress still
exists.While both you and myself still buy new comics, I agree that there is too much violence, sex and murder (even so-called 'heroes' killing people.) And often in rather grisly detail. Both at Marvel and DC. It's too much, and something should be done. But, it won't be. Sigh. Best Wishes,PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:Sure. While Crisis on Infinite Earths was generally excellent, the downside was the loss of the multiverse and several interesting characters (i.e. Helena "Huntress" Wayne) who could no longer exist in the new, combined reality. The claim by DC was that newer readers were confused by the existence of duplicate worlds and characters. But I think they ticked off most of the long-time readers who enjoyed that sort of thing. I, for one, found the whole concept fascinating and one of the few things that could pull me away from reading Marvel comics.Then comes Infinite Crisis and the return, in a way, of the multiverse. It's
not exactly the same as it was before, but it's promising. And there, among the many returning faces, is someone who looks suspiciously like Helena Wayne. And I don't mean the granddaughter of Slam Bradley! (By the way, I still haven't forgiven DC for promising a Huntress series at the end of Helena's run in the first Wonder Woman series, only to see her killed off and replaced by a ringer who doesn't even come close.)But now there's yet another crisis looming. and the multiverse seems to be in peril once more. Certain realities have already been ruined or destroyed. Things are looking grim.You said before that comics should be fun. It's an oft-repeated mantra these days. And there's a good reason why. Most of the new ones aren't. There's too much darkness. DC in crisis. Marvel at war. Enough already.==== =Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: Betty Dobson
<inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca>Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:08:43 AMSubject: Re: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTBetty,Can you give me more detail on what you are thinking beyond Save The Multiverse?Thanks, PhilBetty Dobson <inkspotter1@ yahoo.ca> wrote:SAVE THE MULTIVERSE!= ====Betty DobsonInkSpotter Publishinghttp: //inkspotter. com ----- Original Message ----From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>To: canadiancomics@ yahoogroups. com; canuckcomics@ yahoogroups. com; guardiansofthenorth @yahoogroups. comSent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:52:56 PMSubject: [canadiancomics] Suggestions and/-or beefs with DC Comics Inc-! OTFolks,I was in to Strange Adventures today, the best specialty comics shop in Halifax.The owner, Calum Johnstone, mentioned to me there today that he will be attending an upcoming corporate meeting between DC Comics powers-that- be staff, together with specialty comic book store owners across North
America. The reason for this sort-of board meeting with store owners is to gather information for what fans want, what they like, what they don't like, and to basically gather suggestions for better ways to do things.One thing I came up with there, right off the bat, which I related to Calum, is that I feel that DC Archive editions are ridiculously, outrageously expensive, that if, for example, the prices were slashed in half, a lot of them would stillcost about $40.00 for a lot of them. Thus, at reduced prices, they'd sell likely double or triple or quadruple of them, and therefore make a substantially increased profit. I added that The Batman Chonicles and Superman Chronicles, which are currently reprinting, in order, all the Batman stories, and all the Superman stories in full process colour, as roughly $20.00 trade paperbacks, is a much better deal. Unlike most hardcover books, in most cases with DC Archives, there was no later paperback less
expensive versions.Calum will be passing my suggestions on at the meeting.So now we come to you!We'd now like to hear what you think is right and/-or wrong with DC Comics, Inc-!What's right, what's wrong, what could be better and why!I'll happily pass any and all suggestions on to the man himself at Strange Adventures, suggestions that he will take with him to this major meeting of the head honchos and specialty comics shop(s) retailers-!Remember , if you don't tell me your thoughts, you are passing on a real opportunity to have DC Comics listen to your thoughts, to improve the product line overall-!I'm sincerely hoping to hear from lots of you, and I will pass on what you tell me for this mega-meet-!Best Wishes,Phil LatterHalifax- --------- -- --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------ --------- --------- ---Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!----- ------- --------- --------- ---Looking
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Richard,
  The only part of your post that I disagreed with is that you said that Darwyn Cooke doesn't have an artistic style of his own.
   
  As far as most are concerned (myself included), his art style is solely his own. Whose style do ya think he's aping?
   
  Regards,
   
  Phil

Richard Gagnon <gasp65@videotron.ca> wrote:
          Count me in among the fans of O' Neil's take on the Question.

I also loved Veitch's take, except for that new age mumbo-jumbo 
ending. Ah, drugs...

The recent Question I had a lot of trouble with is Darwyn Cooke's 
idea of the character in Solo.

I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies through 
the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by bomb) 
by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't kill 
anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for someone 
who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded wholesale 
slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
"rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the way 
of the entertainment.

Stick to drawing, Darwyn. Maybe some day you'll even get a style of 
your own.

And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and understanding 
of the character. Not to mention great skill.

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Phil wrote:

The only part of your post that I disagreed with is that you said  
that Darwyn Cooke doesn't have an artistic style of his own.

As far as most are concerned (myself included), his art style is  
solely his own. Whose style do ya think he's aping?

Thanks, Phil.

I should say, first, that , in my opinion, Darwyn Cooke is an  
incredibly talented illustrator. But he's always been a chameleon,  
from his early days aping Neal Adams, followed by his years in  
advertising.

Then he worked with Bruce Timm, and came back out with a version of  
Timm's style, which he hasn't shed yet. The trouble is that he's not  
just going with Timm's artistic flourishes, he's also inspired by the  
same sources, but second-hand. However, I think I've begun spotting  
signs of a break in the pattern. Cooke did a short story last year,  
(for a "Free comic book day" anthology of anglo-Canadian artists  
called "Festival") which hinted at other, new, non-Timm artistic  
inspirations. Classic architectural illustration, and deeper 40s  
illustrative sources. Keep digging, man!

An example of someone who's integrated his artistic influences while  
not hiding them is, ihmo, Jaime Hernandez. There's Steve Ditko,  
Charles Schulz, Hank Ketcham, and lots more, but none dominate. But  
Hernandez' patch was a different one.

Animation and advertising are not generally fields conducive to  
individuality. You don't stand out when you work as a cog. It's a  
steady gig, right?

But hey, even if he never becomes truly his own man, drawing-wise,  
I'll still enjoy the heck out of Darwnyn Cooke's work.

Have a great weekend, guys.

Richard


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i agree with you 100%, richard.  my best friend is a
huge darwyn cooke fan, and thinks the man is a god who
can do no wrong.
when i tell him that i find cooke's work technically
proficient, but too heavily influenced by bruce timm's
work, my friend says that while cooke might have had a
small influence by timm early in his career, he finds
cooke's work now is 100% original and his own and
can't understand what i am talking about.
i'll never understand why comic fans insist on
deifying their heroes.


--- Richard Gagnon <gasp65@videotron.ca> wrote:

> Phil wrote:
> 
> The only part of your post that I disagreed with is
> that you said  
> that Darwyn Cooke doesn't have an artistic style of
> his own.
> 
> As far as most are concerned (myself included), his
> art style is  
> solely his own. Whose style do ya think he's aping?
> 
> Thanks, Phil.
> 
> I should say, first, that , in my opinion, Darwyn
> Cooke is an  
> incredibly talented illustrator. But he's always
> been a chameleon,  
> from his early days aping Neal Adams, followed by
> his years in  
> advertising.
> 
> Then he worked with Bruce Timm, and came back out
> with a version of  
> Timm's style, which he hasn't shed yet. The trouble
> is that he's not  
> just going with Timm's artistic flourishes, he's
> also inspired by the  
> same sources, but second-hand. However, I think I've
> begun spotting  
> signs of a break in the pattern. Cooke did a short
> story last year,  
> (for a "Free comic book day" anthology of
> anglo-Canadian artists  
> called "Festival") which hinted at other, new,
> non-Timm artistic  
> inspirations. Classic architectural illustration,
> and deeper 40s  
> illustrative sources. Keep digging, man!
> 
> An example of someone who's integrated his artistic
> influences while  
> not hiding them is, ihmo, Jaime Hernandez. There's
> Steve Ditko,  
> Charles Schulz, Hank Ketcham, and lots more, but
> none dominate. But  
> Hernandez' patch was a different one.
> 
> Animation and advertising are not generally fields
> conducive to  
> individuality. You don't stand out when you work as
> a cog. It's a  
> steady gig, right?
> 
> But hey, even if he never becomes truly his own man,
> drawing-wise,  
> I'll still enjoy the heck out of Darwnyn Cooke's
> work.
> 
> Have a great weekend, guys.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



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Subject: Ditko At The Little Bighorn!
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The "Al Williamson Hidden Lands" volume from Dark Horse is a grand=20
collection of some very rich and evocative stories from the 1950's.=20
There is a lot of stuff from EC, ACG, Atlas, and others, including=20
Charlton.

Al Williamson tells a grand tale how he and Angelo Torres whipped out=20
a Cheyenne Kid story in one night, an 18-pager at that about Custer=20
and the Battle of the Little Bighorn. (They did this to make the=20
money from Charlton loom larger.) I searched for the cover of=20
that issue (#10) and found it was rendered by none other than Sturdy=20
Steve Ditko!=20=20

I don't recollect a lot of Ditko western action, but this is a really=20
grand example. The drama is evident and way he's got action in all=20
fields is outstanding!=20=20

I wonder how long it took him to make that? Modern talents should=20
despair in the face of these old masters. These veterans were faster=20
and better.=20=20

Cheyenne Kid is a great comic (lasting from the 50's to the 70's,=20
easily one of the most successful westerns ever), one often=20
overlooked in comic discussion. It's featured strong periods by solid=20
talent. I think it's easily Charlton's best western comic, and was=20
the home of the groundbreaking Wander to boot.

Rip Off



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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
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I enjoyed the TV show when it was on, but I don't think I've seen the=20
episodes again until now.=20

The comic book and magazine by Charlton are among my very favorites of=20
the 70's. Charlton really did some fine work on these thanks to Cuti,=20
Staton, Byrne, Morrow, and others. These are extremely=20
fine comics and hold up well today.

I intend to dig them out, because I just found the series on DVD. These=20
episodes are fascinating to watch over again after all these years.

Dean


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Hi, everyone.  Just wanted to drop a line to let you know that I=20
will be leaving some of the groups I currently belong to.  I enjoy=20
all the groups, but it is getting very overwhelm-ing considering the=20
amount of emails that I get.  I sometimes do not get to the email=20
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Deleting threads that I'm not interested in also takes a lot of=20
time.  And time is the primary problem.  I have a lot going on in my=20
personal life, plus there are extra curricular activities that I=20
want to pursue, the foremost of this being writing.

Writing has always been a love of mine, but I haven't been doing it=20
as much as I'd like.  I'm a journalist and I work for a newspaper,=20
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I'd like to finish. I'm also working on my first "paid" fiction=20
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seriously behind on where I want to be with that at the moment.=20=20=20

I've had a lot of fun on the groups chatting and getting scans.=20=20
And, I appreciate all the scans from all the scanners in all the=20
groups.  My original intent when I joined the groups was because I=20
had a love for the Archie ultra heroes.  I stumbled across a couple=20
groups that had some connection with these heroes.  And of course I=20
love Ric Offenberger's Mighty Crusaders site.  I love these heroes=20
and would very much like to see them in print again.  But I=20
digress.  Over the course of the past five years I've found group=20
after group that interested me.  I also was interested in=20
British/Australian/Canadian and obscure he-roes.  I've accumulated a=20
lot of scans over the years. (Much more than I'll probably ever have=20
a chance to read.)  Some I've started giving back by posting on some=20
of the groups.  But, my main purpose with a few exceptions has been=20
filled.  I have scans of just about every appearance of Archie's=20
ultra heroes with the exception of some of their later Laugh, Pep,=20
etc appearances and Weird Mysteries #14 (which I'm sorely seeking).=20
I be-long to so many groups that there is much overlap so I'm sure=20
that if something comes along that I do want/need I will be able to=20
get it.

I know I'm no one important, but I also know that some have=20
expressed in the past they like to know why people leave their=20
groups.  And, of course most of the groups in general don't like to=20
lose members.  So, if your group is one of the ones I leave, what=20
I've stated above are my reasons for leaving. I really do want to do=20
as much writing as possible.  I've done some superhero bios for a=20
couple of websites and I would like to do more.  I've also been in=20
contact with someone at wikipedia because I'd like to add to or=20
create Archie ul-tra hero pages. I also want to start doing comic=20
book reviews of the Archie ultra hero books.  I also hope that=20
this "paid" gig leads to something, because I ultimately would like=20
to break into comics, particularly Archie.=20

My main interests are, of course, the Archie books; primarily the=20
super/ultra heroes, but also some of the others, especially the=20
Super Teens and the Awesome Foursome, as well as Mad House, etc.=20=20
Next is THUNDER Agents and Justice Machine (hard to find scans of=20
these).  Then would be obscure heroes and foreign (at least foreign=20
to the U.S.), pri-marily, Australian, British and Canadian (not=20
necessarily in that order).  So most of my concentration will be in=20
those areas.  Of course, I will not leave any of the groups I co-=20
moderate.  So, if you notice that I leave your group, the above=20
stated are the reasons why.

Hope I haven't bored anyone.  Again I want to say that I have really=20
appreciated all the scans and chats.

John Packer
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I have several of these, and I find them all entertaining. When I first=20
learned that Judomaster was preceded by Gunmaster, I knew I had to get=20
some. I found a bunch, and recently was gifted with another beautiful=20
vintage comic in the run. The Gunmaster stories aren't to-die-for but=20
they are vintage solid entertainment with that offbeat sometimes goofy=20
Charlton flavor we crave. There's an unapologetic quality to these old=20
Charlton books, a pleasant lact of self-awareness that makes them solid=20
reads.

Get Gunmaster! You could do worse!

Dean


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Subject: The Many Comics Of Dr.Graves!
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My quest to acqiure the early Dr.Graves run came a bit closer to=20
fruition yesterday when I chanced upon a really clean copy of The Many=20
Ghosts of Dr.Graves #13. The issue is sweet one even if it suffers from=20
a bland cover. There are two Ditko classics in this one, in his later=20
more muscular style (which I love by the way) and a story apiece by Don=20
Perlin and Pete Morisi. Steve Skeates and Joe Gill handle the writing=20
chores. All in all a typically strong issue of this vintage Charlton=20
ghost book.

Did I mention I found it for a dollar?  Yep! It's a real prize.=20=20

Dean



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more Charlton Westerns! Al


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Here is a link to some Gunmaster I have several but not scanned.  Here is the link for some stories http://www.mediafire.com/?9nez4g0luzl

and issue 87
http://www.mediafire.com/?duennlgjwze

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jimludwig@...> wrote:
>
> Here is a link to some Gunmaster I have several but not scanned.=20=20
Here is the link for some stories http://www.mediafire.com/?9nez4g0luzl
>=20
> and issue 87
> http://www.mediafire.com/?duennlgjwze


Thank You!
I appreciate the links to scans!

Al


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From: "alwest662" <alwest662@yahoo.com>
Subject: Gunmaster & More Charlton Westerns link
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Gunmaster & More Charlton Westerns link


http://www.4shared.com/dir/2535798/71670505/sharing.html


Hey here is the link to  Gunmaster & more Charlton=20


westerns comics.


It took me forever to remember where these were!


I recommend saving files if you want these comics

as 4shared makes the owner of the file share

sign in ever 30 days & it is so easy to forget!

I lost tons of comic scans by not being organised &

being forgetful.

AL


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How late do you remember seeing Charlton comics on sale , new=20
ones ?????????=20
  I believe I remember seeing 'em well into 1986 .
  Atomic Mouse and that " Steve Ditko Showcase " Charlton Presents??=20
are all the ones I remember seeing - and buying , some .
  Could it be that they were newsstand-only by that point , and not=20
sold in comics shops ?
  I recall leading of , at some point in Charlton's dissolution , them=20
distributing some indie comics to comics shops , but not thir own , "=20
so as to not compete " .


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Greetings Group,
I'm looking for a scan/photocopy/anything of the Charlton's THE COMIC=20
BOOK GUIDE FOR THE ARTIST/WRITER/LETTERER. I have been wanting to see=20
this thing for 30 years and have yet to find one. I missed the last one=20
on eBay and have looked/asked/begged all of the comic dealers I know.
Any help would be great!
Thanks


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The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in the summer=
 of 1981. I=20
drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing back to th=
em again in the=20
mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I completely mis=
sed their late-80s=20
demise.

Mike

"jgbook2007" wrote:
>
> How late do you remember seeing Charlton comics on sale , new=20
> ones ?????????=20
>   I believe I remember seeing 'em well into 1986 .
>   Atomic Mouse and that " Steve Ditko Showcase " Charlton Presents??=20
> are all the ones I remember seeing - and buying , some .
>   Could it be that they were newsstand-only by that point , and not=20
> sold in comics shops ?
>   I recall leading of , at some point in Charlton's dissolution , them=20
> distributing some indie comics to comics shops , but not thir own , "=20
> so as to not compete " .
>



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This morning I could not get into usenet!
=20
http://myusenet.net/files/0/alt.binaries.pictures.comics/0/image24.htm
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I been going to above link  and it lets me use myusenet for free
=20
but now it blocking out!
=20
I can not get a pay account as I have no credit card!
=20

UsenetBinaries.com=20
=20
I can use a free account at this but it only allows a few pages.
=20
(around 2 or 3 pages daily!)
=20
Can you help me with ideas.
=20
I have a checking account at my bank but I do not think
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they take check or money orders!
=20
I heard that they have usernames & pass words to by pass
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and get into usenet.But do not know them!
=20
I am not a person who likes to cheat but I am up agaist
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Some people tell me they get free usenet through their IP
=20
but I use internet at local university and do not know about all
=20
that.
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Most people at university have not even heard of usenet & cant help!
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Please let  me if you have any ideas!

Al


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Most banks give you a debit card that is basically the same as a credit card except that it uses your funds, and not a line of credit, to pay for things.  Perhaps you could use that for usenet.  Don't know what else to tell you.
   
       Allen Smith

alwest662 <alwest662@yahoo.com> wrote:
          
This morning I could not get into usenet!

http://myusenet.net/files/0/alt.binaries.pictures.comics/0/image24.htm

I been going to above link and it lets me use myusenet for free

but now it blocking out!

I can not get a pay account as I have no credit card!


UsenetBinaries.com 

I can use a free account at this but it only allows a few pages.

(around 2 or 3 pages daily!)

Can you help me with ideas.

I have a checking account at my bank but I do not think

they take check or money orders!

I heard that they have usernames & pass words to by pass

and get into usenet.But do not know them!

I am not a person who likes to cheat but I am up agaist

the wall here!

Some people tell me they get free usenet through their IP

but I use internet at local university and do not know about all

that.

Most people at university have not even heard of usenet & cant help!

Please let me if you have any ideas!

Al



                           

       
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That CHARLTON ACTION cover above is nice !!!...........
  It says " All New !!!!!!!!! " .
  Perhaps that issue was , but , having such a blurb could in fact be a=20
reference to previous issues being reprinted-form-indies with=20
colorization Ditko hero material , and a C.-horror backup , as I=20
remembered...


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> Most banks give you a debit card that is basically the same as a=20
credit card except that it uses your funds, and not a line of credit,=20
to pay for things.  Perhaps you could use that for usenet.  Don't=20
know what else to tell you.
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>        Allen Smith

Dear Allen,

Thanks for tips!

I will look in to the Debit Card thing!

I am grabing at what straws I can.

It was a big blow that MYUSENET went pay

in most cases it was better than USENET=20

REPLAYER which is free but very lacking in

completion!  I have tryed to get Giganews but=20

for some reason is blocked very disapointing!=20

I  could not even get 3 day trial account! I did=20

find another free account it is on a basicly=20

porn site called XUSENET but I can get=20

though to non porn comics.The new stuff is=20

pretty incomplete but have a big=20

archive.Search site there really sucks!Well I=20

am still open to finding out more!=20

Al



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> The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in the=20
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> drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing back=20
to them again in the=20
> mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I=20
completely missed their late-80s=20
> demise.
>=20

I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the=20
reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the newstands.=20=20
That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand.  I pretty much=20
went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got their=20
issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc).  I knew of=20
their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.

Michael Brown


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How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered # 9 or something like that.
   
  Phil Latter

Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:
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> The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in the 
summer of 1981. I 
> drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing back 
to them again in the 
> mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I 
completely missed their late-80s 
> demise.
> 

I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the 
reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the newstands. 
That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand. I pretty much 
went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got their 
issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc). I knew of 
their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.

Michael Brown



                           

       
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Unless I am misstaken, Static went two issues. In fact, I dont=20
believe any of the late 80's revivals lasted longer than 2 issues,=20
however most were just 70's reprints anyway. Also, I believe issue 2=20
of static was the last comic produced by charlton. I never understood=20
why they chose the titles they did for that run...I mean Yang, Thane=20
of Baggarth, Cpl Willie Shultz?

I do remember the splash they made with Atomic Mouse before that, but=20
they were too slow in following that up and instead of leading the=20
charge on the Funny Animal books, they were lost in the shuffle.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
>
> How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on=20
the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered #=20
9 or something like that.
>=20=20=20=20
>   Phil Latter
>=20
> Michael Brown <emb021@...> wrote:
>           --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael=20
Ambrose"=20
> <charspot01@> wrote:
> >
> > The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in=20
the=20
> summer of 1981. I=20
> > drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing=20
back=20
> to them again in the=20
> > mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I=20
> completely missed their late-80s=20
> > demise.
> >=20
>=20
> I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the=20
> reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the=20
newstands.=20
> That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand. I pretty=20
much=20
> went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got=20
their=20
> issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc). I knew of=20
> their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.
>=20
> Michael Brown
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 There were two issues of Static produced, and unless I am misstaken,=20
the second issue of Static was the last comic book Charlton ever=20
produced.=20

The thing that always bugged me about the late 80's Charlton revival=20
was their weak line-up of comics. They really werent making much with=20
broad appeal and it doomed them pretty quick. I dont think any of their=20
books went more than two issues before they folded. Their distribution=20
at that point was pretty bad too.

The thing was, a year or two earlier when they brought out Atomic=20
Mouse, they really had something, but instead of being a leader in the=20
funny animal books, they didnt follow it up for far too long, and when=20
they did it was tame reprinted material.

Too bad too, because there was still room at the time for a publisher=20
of their ilk!

=20


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
>
> How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on=20
the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered #=20
9 or something like that.
>=20=20=20=20

There were 2 issues of Static from Charlton.

One thing that I've always wondering is that these 2 issues are=20
marked as "Charlton Action" #11 and 12.  What was issues #1-10, since=20
Charlton liked to retitle series instead of having a new #1 (tho why=20
they did this with Static, I have no idea).

Also, after the demise of Charlton, Ditko and Snyder continued Static=20
at Renegade with Ditko's World #1-3.

Also, speaking of the 1985 Charlton output, taking a look at GCD, I=20
see the following:

Atomic Mouse 4 issues
Captain Willie Schultz 2 issues
Charlton Action/Static 2 issues
Iron Corporal 3 issues
Li'l Genius 2 issues
Tales of Mysterious Traveler 2 issues
Timmy the Timid Ghost 3 issues
Yang 3 issues

There may have been other issues that were already being published=20
and continued into 85, but don't know.

Michael Brown


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Another thing I find interesting in the 1985 Charltons, is how the=20
cover layout was different from the style used for a long time up to=20
1984.  In some ways, things were a throw back to older days.

You can see this in the cover for one of the Charlton Actions that is=20
now gracing the groups's page.

The Charlton Bullseye was shrunk, and pushed over to the right.

On the left they had a diagonal set of bars with info like price,=20
number, distrubtion info, date, etc.  Kind of similiar to the old style=20
used in the 50s and 60s before the Big C logo.  Then a triangle with=20
the title character above the diagonal.

I've wondering what the reasoning for the change.

Michael Brown


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Hi Phil i got this list a while back from Michael Brown
                              STATIC INFORMATION
Ditko's World weren't published by Charlton. They were published by Renegade Press.The first 3 Static stories were originally printed (in color) in Eclipse Monthly #1-3. The first 2 Static stories were revised for (re-)publication in Charlton Action #11 & 12 (in b/w).The third Static story was revised for (re-)publication in Ditko's World #1.The new fourth and fifth story were published for the first time in Ditko World #2 and 3.'chapters' #6-14 were published for the first time in the first Static Trade paperback from Robin Snyder. Snyder then reprinted the first 5 stories in a second paperback, then later came out with a complete Static trade paperback.FWIW, I know this because I collected all these comics when they came out, but Bell's site: Ditko Looked Up is a good resource for gleening this information.Michael Brown
 
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.comFrom: chromium_foil@yahoo.caDate: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:00:19 -0400Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Static




How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered # 9 or something like that.Phil LatterMichael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@...> wrote:>> The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in the summer of 1981. I > drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing back to them again in the > mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I completely missed their late-80s > demise.> I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the newstands. That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand. I pretty much went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got their issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc). I knew of their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.Michael Brown---------------------------------Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr![Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 






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--- In Ch








...I suppose they were trying a little bit of everything they owned -=20
Mostly-to-entirely reprints , counting the Ditko material , whiuch ,=20
as I said , I believe was at least in part colorized reprints of=20
indie-published material that Ditko owned .


arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "chrisgentz" <chrisgentz@...> wrote:
>
> Unless I am misstaken, Static went two issues. In fact, I dont=20
> believe any of the late 80's revivals lasted longer than 2 issues,=20
> however most were just 70's reprints anyway. Also, I believe issue=20
2=20
> of static was the last comic produced by charlton. I never=20
understood=20
> why they chose the titles they did for that run...I mean Yang,=20
Thane=20
> of Baggarth, Cpl Willie Shultz?
>=20
> I do remember the splash they made with Atomic Mouse before that,=20
but=20
> they were too slow in following that up and instead of leading the=20
> charge on the Funny Animal books, they were lost in the shuffle.=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
> <chromium_foil@> wrote:
> >
> > How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on=20
> the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered=20
#=20
> 9 or something like that.
> >=20=20=20=20
> >   Phil Latter
> >=20
> > Michael Brown <emb021@> wrote:
> >           --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael=20
> Ambrose"=20
> > <charspot01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3,=20
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> the=20
> > summer of 1981. I=20
> > > drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started=20
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> back=20
> > to them again in the=20
> > > mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I=20
> > completely missed their late-80s=20
> > > demise.
> > >=20
> >=20
> > I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the=20
> > reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the=20
> newstands.=20
> > That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand. I pretty=20
> much=20
> > went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got=20
> their=20
> > issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc). I knew of=20
> > their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.
> >=20
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There is an ebay auction up for the complete Static
trade paperback if anyone is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEVE-DITKOS-STATIC-160-PAGE-PACKAGE-TPB-RARE-DITKO_W0QQitemZ230229884924QQihZ013QQcategoryZ35784QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247


--- Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:

> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter
> 
> <chromium_foil@...> wrote:
> >
> > How many issues of Static were published. I only
> saw one issue on 
> the stands at the time which I bought, and I think
> it was numbered # 
> 9 or something like that.
> >    
> 
> There were 2 issues of Static from Charlton.
> 
> One thing that I've always wondering is that these 2
> issues are 
> marked as "Charlton Action" #11 and 12.  What was
> issues #1-10, since 
> Charlton liked to retitle series instead of having a
> new #1 (tho why 
> they did this with Static, I have no idea).
> 
> Also, after the demise of Charlton, Ditko and Snyder
> continued Static 
> at Renegade with Ditko's World #1-3.
> 
> Also, speaking of the 1985 Charlton output, taking a
> look at GCD, I 
> see the following:
> 
> Atomic Mouse 4 issues
> Captain Willie Schultz 2 issues
> Charlton Action/Static 2 issues
> Iron Corporal 3 issues
> Li'l Genius 2 issues
> Tales of Mysterious Traveler 2 issues
> Timmy the Timid Ghost 3 issues
> Yang 3 issues
> 
> There may have been other issues that were already
> being published 
> and continued into 85, but don't know.
> 
> Michael Brown
> 
> 
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--- In Ch


...I just made two posts before this , I'm not certain that they went=20=20
up yet??????????





arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> My quest to acqiure the early Dr.Graves run came a bit closer to=20
> fruition yesterday when I chanced upon a really clean copy of The=20
Many=20
> Ghosts of Dr.Graves #13. The issue is sweet one even if it suffers=20
from=20
> a bland cover. There are two Ditko classics in this one, in his later=20
> more muscular style (which I love by the way) and a story apiece by=20
Don=20
> Perlin and Pete Morisi. Steve Skeates and Joe Gill handle the writing=20
> chores. All in all a typically strong issue of this vintage Charlton=20
> ghost book.
>=20
> Did I mention I found it for a dollar?  Yep! It's a real prize.=20=20
>=20
> Dean
>



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I think all of the Static series (from Charlton and
Renegade Press) were reprinted by Steve Ditko and
Robin Snyder in one handy dandy volume.  Interesting
read...


--- Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:

> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter
> 
> <chromium_foil@...> wrote:
> >
> > How many issues of Static were published. I only
> saw one issue on 
> the stands at the time which I bought, and I think
> it was numbered # 
> 9 or something like that.
> >    
> 
> There were 2 issues of Static from Charlton.
> 
> One thing that I've always wondering is that these 2
> issues are 
> marked as "Charlton Action" #11 and 12.  What was
> issues #1-10, since 
> Charlton liked to retitle series instead of having a
> new #1 (tho why 
> they did this with Static, I have no idea).
> 
> Also, after the demise of Charlton, Ditko and Snyder
> continued Static 
> at Renegade with Ditko's World #1-3.
> 
> Also, speaking of the 1985 Charlton output, taking a
> look at GCD, I 
> see the following:
> 
> Atomic Mouse 4 issues
> Captain Willie Schultz 2 issues
> Charlton Action/Static 2 issues
> Iron Corporal 3 issues
> Li'l Genius 2 issues
> Tales of Mysterious Traveler 2 issues
> Timmy the Timid Ghost 3 issues
> Yang 3 issues
> 
> There may have been other issues that were already
> being published 
> and continued into 85, but don't know.
> 
> Michael Brown
> 
> 
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--- In Ch








...I do , again , think they were on the stands, into '86 ( Actual=20
presence on the stands , not cover dates . ) , tho with nothing more=20
seen by me other than Ditko and Atom. Mouse .

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Brown" <emb021@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
> <chromium_foil@> wrote:
> >
> > How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on=20
> the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered=20
#=20
> 9 or something like that.
> >=20=20=20=20
>=20
> There were 2 issues of Static from Charlton.
>=20
> One thing that I've always wondering is that these 2 issues are=20
> marked as "Charlton Action" #11 and 12.  What was issues #1-10,=20
since=20
> Charlton liked to retitle series instead of having a new #1 (tho=20
why=20
> they did this with Static, I have no idea).
>=20
> Also, after the demise of Charlton, Ditko and Snyder continued=20
Static=20
> at Renegade with Ditko's World #1-3.
>=20
> Also, speaking of the 1985 Charlton output, taking a look at GCD, I=20
> see the following:
>=20
> Atomic Mouse 4 issues
> Captain Willie Schultz 2 issues
> Charlton Action/Static 2 issues
> Iron Corporal 3 issues
> Li'l Genius 2 issues
> Tales of Mysterious Traveler 2 issues
> Timmy the Timid Ghost 3 issues
> Yang 3 issues
>=20
> There may have been other issues that were already being published=20
> and continued into 85, but don't know.
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> Michael Brown
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--- In Ch






...Maybe they felt a new design approach would help 'em !!!!!!!!!!!
  Another later-end Charlton of note is SOAP OPERA LOVE , which I=20
managed to find two copies of on E-Bay ( I thought that it was " Soap=20
Opera ROMANCE " )...I'm unsure if it was reprints , filing cabinet=20
backlog material , or , completely newly commisioned stories , or a=20
mix ?????????
  Perhaps they were trying to hop aboard the General Hosptal craze ,=20
at that time !!!!!!!!!


arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Brown" <emb021@...> wrote:
>
> Another thing I find interesting in the 1985 Charltons, is how the=20
> cover layout was different from the style used for a long time up=20
to=20
> 1984.  In some ways, things were a throw back to older days.
>=20
> You can see this in the cover for one of the Charlton Actions that=20
is=20
> now gracing the groups's page.
>=20
> The Charlton Bullseye was shrunk, and pushed over to the right.
>=20
> On the left they had a diagonal set of bars with info like price,=20
> number, distrubtion info, date, etc.  Kind of similiar to the old=20
style=20
> used in the 50s and 60s before the Big C logo.  Then a triangle=20
with=20
> the title character above the diagonal.
>=20
> I've wondering what the reasoning for the change.
>=20
> Michael Brown
>



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>   Another later-end Charlton of note is SOAP OPERA LOVE , which I=20
> managed to find two copies of on E-Bay ( I thought that it was " Soap=20
> Opera ROMANCE "=20

Soap Opera Love came out in 1983.
Soap Opera Romances in 1982.

So a little before the 85 end.


Michael Brown


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The latest Charltons I can find are Punchy the Crow #12, Iron Corporal=20
#25, and Professor Coffin #21 issues all dated February 1986. There=20
were several that got January dates like Dr.Graves, Lil Genius, Atomic=20
Mouse, and such, but none of those got February dates. Assuming the=20
month means something, I'd say these have to be the last of the=20
Charlton offerings. Charlton Action #2 is dated December of 1985 so=20
it's not that close really, though it might be the last original=20
material from Charlton.

Dean


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Hello Guy,
   
  I have Ditko's World; Renegade was a Canadian comics company.
   
  I also have all the Ditko Packages and other publications published by Robin Snyder about Steve Ditko, including the Static volume.
  I only have one of the Charlton Static colour issues though. I think it's numbered # 9. But then, Charlton mostly had a mostly wacky numerical system anyhow.
   
  I haven't heard of a Charlton Action title series, though. How many issues of that series were there?
   
  Best,
   
  Phil
   
  

guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:
          
Hi Phil i got this list a while back from Michael Brown
STATIC INFORMATION
Ditko's World weren't published by Charlton. They were published by Renegade Press.The first 3 Static stories were originally printed (in color) in Eclipse Monthly #1-3. The first 2 Static stories were revised for (re-)publication in Charlton Action #11 & 12 (in b/w).The third Static story was revised for (re-)publication in Ditko's World #1.The new fourth and fifth story were published for the first time in Ditko World #2 and 3.'chapters' #6-14 were published for the first time in the first Static Trade paperback from Robin Snyder. Snyder then reprinted the first 5 stories in a second paperback, then later came out with a complete Static trade paperback.FWIW, I know this because I collected all these comics when they came out, but Bell's site: Ditko Looked Up is a good resource for gleening this information.Michael Brown

Thank You & God Bless Guy E Sparkman 

To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.comFrom: chromium_foil@yahoo.caDate: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:00:19 -0400Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Static

How many issues of Static were published. I only saw one issue on the stands at the time which I bought, and I think it was numbered # 9 or something like that.Phil LatterMichael Brown <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@...> wrote:>> The last new Charlton I ever bought was Charlton Bullseye #3, in the summer of 1981. I > drifted away from comics thereafter and, when I started drifiing back to them again in the > mid-90s, I naively assumed Charlton was still in business. I completely missed their late-80s > demise.> I picked up some of the Charlton Bullseye issues, and some of the reprints of Fightin' 5 from the 1981/82 time frame on the newstands. That was the last I saw of Charlton in on the newstand. I pretty much went to buying my comics thru a distributor, which is how I got their issues from the late 80s (Charlton Action/Static, etc). I knew of their new stuff from Amazing Heroes.Michael
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In a message dated 4/4/2008 3:24:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ripjagger@yahoo.com writes:

>The latest Charltons I can find are Punchy the Crow #12, Iron  Corporal 
>#25, and Professor Coffin #21 issues all dated February  1986
 
and that was it. there were 6 comics dated Jan 1986, and 3 dated Feb  1986.  
 
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There were nine Charlton comics published in 1986, the last ones ever:

Atomic Mouse 12 (1/86)
Captain Willie Schultz 77 (1/86)
Dr. Graves 75 (1/86)
Li'l Genius 55 (1/86)
Timmy The Timid Ghost 26 (1/86)
Yang 17 (1/86)
The Iron Corporal 25 (2/86)
Prof. Coffin 21 (2/86)
Punchy And The Black Crow 12 (2/86)

-Mike
=20
> In a message dated 4/4/2008 3:24:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20=20
> ripjagger@... writes:
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> >The latest Charltons I can find are Punchy the Crow #12, Iron  Corporal=
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> >#25, and Professor Coffin #21 issues all dated February  1986
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> and that was it. there were 6 comics dated Jan 1986, and 3 dated Feb  198=
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--- In Ch




...I'm inclined to think that my remembered Statics and At. Mouses=20
were later still - and on the stands well into '86 , I assume the=20
86s being listed here are '86 cover dates , newsstand-era comic=20
books , as most people reading this should/would remember , had a=20
peculair tradition of cover dates months in advance of their actual=20
on-the-stands time .
  I am not convinced , in other words , that there may not have been=20
later Charltons than what are listed here .
  I recall the last Overstreet I saw leaving question marks , for "=20
unsure " , in discussing '86 dates , for some back-up to me .
  I will acknowledge that any late showing up on the newssatnds=20
could've been " old comics that weren't picked up - after all , if=20
the company's gone kaput , why bother ????? "nd , likewise , maybe=20
the store employees didn't get around to packing them up for return .
  My area then was upper-ish Westchester County , New York , not too=20
far from Derby .=20
  Who knows , maybe some " not officially released " last pressings=20
to come off of the printing presses could've gotten limited , "=20
local " , distribution .

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@...>=20
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> There were nine Charlton comics published in 1986, the last ones=20
ever:
>=20
> Atomic Mouse 12 (1/86)
> Captain Willie Schultz 77 (1/86)
> Dr. Graves 75 (1/86)
> Li'l Genius 55 (1/86)
> Timmy The Timid Ghost 26 (1/86)
> Yang 17 (1/86)
> The Iron Corporal 25 (2/86)
> Prof. Coffin 21 (2/86)
> Punchy And The Black Crow 12 (2/86)
>=20
> -Mike
>=20=20
> > In a message dated 4/4/2008 3:24:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20=20
> > ripjagger@ writes:
> >=20
> > >The latest Charltons I can find are Punchy the Crow #12, Iron=20=20
Corporal=20
> > >#25, and Professor Coffin #21 issues all dated February  1986
> >=20=20
> > and that was it. there were 6 comics dated Jan 1986, and 3 dated=20
Feb  1986.=20=20
> >=20=20
> > sr
>



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...I wasn't saying that they were ( Tho' , granted , I didn't spell=20
that out , I guess . ) , I assumed they were from earlier in the=20
1980s than '85 , I was just saying that on top of the already-
established line .

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Brown" <emb021@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "jgbook2007"=20
<jgbook2007@>=20
> wrote:
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>=20
> >   Another later-end Charlton of note is SOAP OPERA LOVE , which=20
I=20
> > managed to find two copies of on E-Bay ( I thought that it was "=20
Soap=20
> > Opera ROMANCE "=20
>=20
> Soap Opera Love came out in 1983.
> Soap Opera Romances in 1982.
>=20
> So a little before the 85 end.
>=20
>=20
> Michael Brown
>



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Hello all,

CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #6 is now soliciting in the APRIL PREVIEWS, in all comic=
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efore-
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mics checklist.=20
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Order your copy NOW from your friendly neighborhood comics dealer and pleas=
e tell all=20
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Thanks,

Michael Ambrose
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You can preorder #6 directly from me for $7.95 (plus $2.00 postage USA; $3.=
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Yum! I can hardly wait. These are the greatest magazines ever, rich and=20
full to overflowing with info and outstanding images. I hanker to read=20
it even now.=20

I'll mention it to my comics store and hopefully they'll get some in. I=20
don't know if I have anything left on my subscription but I'll likely=20
get a couple anyway.

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
>

>   I only have one of the Charlton Static colour issues though. I=20
think it's numbered # 9. But then, Charlton mostly had a mostly wacky=20
numerical system anyhow.
>=20=20=20=20
>   I haven't heard of a Charlton Action title series, though. How=20
many issues of that series were there?
>=20=20=20=20

Uh, the actual title of the comics that Charlton published the Static=20
stuff in was "Charlton Action".

There were only 2 issues of Charlton Action, #11 and 12.

Never heard what title this was a re-title of.

After the ending of the Static comics, Ditko & Snyder concluded the=20
Static story with an original collection of the concluding chapters.=20=20
They then reprinted the first chapters that had appeared at Eclipse,=20
Charlton and Renegade, before putting out a complete collection of=20
the Static storyline.

AFAIK, you should be able to get this complete collection from Snyder.

Michael Brown


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I was curious, were the Modern Comics reprints of certain Charlton titles done by an independent publisher (independent of Charlton, that is) or was the Modern Comics imprint just an offshoot of Charlton?  The printing on those comics was truly horrendous.
   
       Allen Smith

jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@yahoo.com> wrote:
          --- In Ch

...I wasn't saying that they were ( Tho' , granted , I didn't spell 
that out , I guess . ) , I assumed they were from earlier in the 
1980s than '85 , I was just saying that on top of the already-
established line .

arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Brown" <emb021@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "jgbook2007" 
<jgbook2007@> 
> wrote:
> >
> 
> > Another later-end Charlton of note is SOAP OPERA LOVE , which 
I 
> > managed to find two copies of on E-Bay ( I thought that it was " 
Soap 
> > Opera ROMANCE " 
> 
> Soap Opera Love came out in 1983.
> Soap Opera Romances in 1982.
> 
> So a little before the 85 end.
> 
> 
> Michael Brown
>



                           

       
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>
> I was curious, were the Modern Comics reprints of certain Charlton=20
titles done by an independent publisher (independent of Charlton, that=20
is) or was the Modern Comics imprint just an offshoot of Charlton?  The=20
printing on those comics was truly horrendous.
>=20=20=20=20
>        Allen Smith
>=20


As far as I know, Modern was an imprint for Charlton. See this link for=20
more details:

http://users.raketnet.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm


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Thanks much for the link.
   
       Allen Smith

ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I was curious, were the Modern Comics reprints of certain Charlton 
titles done by an independent publisher (independent of Charlton, that 
is) or was the Modern Comics imprint just an offshoot of Charlton? The 
printing on those comics was truly horrendous.
> 
> Allen Smith
> 

As far as I know, Modern was an imprint for Charlton. See this link for 
more details:

http://users.raketnet.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm



                           

       
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Hi Dean,

I refunded all subscriptions last year because I didn't want to make people=
 wait so long=20
between issues, and I'm currently not offering subs--just preorders. Apprec=
iate it very much=20
if you talk up the mag to your local shop!

Mike

>
> Yum! I can hardly wait. These are the greatest magazines ever, rich and=20
> full to overflowing with info and outstanding images. I hanker to read=20
> it even now.=20
>=20
> I'll mention it to my comics store and hopefully they'll get some in. I=20
> don't know if I have anything left on my subscription but I'll likely=20
> get a couple anyway.
>=20
> Dean
>



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Thanks. I'll be in my local store in the next few days and I'll make a=20
point to get them to order it up for me. They do a decent job of=20
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might go for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if not,=20
then you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a copy.

Dean


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In a message dated 4/9/2008 5:06:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ripjagger@yahoo.com writes:
<<Thanks. I'll be in my local store in the  next few days and I'll make a 
point to get them to order it up for me. They  do a decent job of 
getting some offbeat stuff and this is just the kind of  thing they 
might go for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if  not, 
then you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a  copy.>>

taking this and running another way with it, 
this is in a nutshell what is wrong with comic book shops..  
your  local shop actually has no problem in getting anything from Previews. 
((assuming  that it is printed and not cancelled)). All they have to do is put 
a number  beside the product name and number on their order form, the form 
that they fill  out every month anyway to get any product..
the harder thing may be having a  system to recall who they ordered it for.  
 
I realize that Dean's shop might actually be better than this rant of mine  
indicates;
 but the only way that a shop can NOT get Charlton Spotlight is by not  
ordering it.  
 
please support your local shop, but insist that they support you by  actually 
ordering the comics you request.
 
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You're right, of course ... except that Diamond's arrogant, monopolistic incompetence unfortunately cannot be underestimated, especially when it comes to fulfilling stores' orders for off-the-beaten-path titles like the ones I'm partial to.

Dan

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  In a message dated 4/9/2008 5:06:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  ripjagger@yahoo.com writes:
  <<Thanks. I'll be in my local store in the next few days and I'll make a 
  point to get them to order it up for me. They do a decent job of 
  getting some offbeat stuff and this is just the kind of thing they 
  might go for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if not, 
  then you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a copy.>>

  taking this and running another way with it, 
  this is in a nutshell what is wrong with comic book shops.. 
  your local shop actually has no problem in getting anything from Previews. 
  ((assuming that it is printed and not cancelled)). All they have to do is put 
  a number beside the product name and number on their order form, the form 
  that they fill out every month anyway to get any product..
  the harder thing may be having a system to recall who they ordered it for. 

  I realize that Dean's shop might actually be better than this rant of mine 
  indicates;
  but the only way that a shop can NOT get Charlton Spotlight is by not 
  ordering it. 

  please support your local shop, but insist that they support you by actually 
  ordering the comics you request.

  steven rowe


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Allen,

The Moderns were printed on the Charlton presses, from Charlton negatives. =
The print=20
quality was generally no better or worse than on any other Charltons, as fa=
r as I can tell. See=20
my essay about them here on Ramon Schenk's Charlton site:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm

Mike A.

>
> I was curious, were the Modern Comics reprints of certain Charlton titles=
 done by an=20
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>        Allen Smith


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I no longer have any Modern Comics issues, but there was one Blue Beetle reprint that looked like a child had colored outside the lines, the color was so badly off register.  Yet, still entertaining and readable, for all that.
   
       Allen Smith

Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:
          Allen,

The Moderns were printed on the Charlton presses, from Charlton negatives. The print 
quality was generally no better or worse than on any other Charltons, as far as I can tell. See 
my essay about them here on Ramon Schenk's Charlton site:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm

Mike A.

>
> I was curious, were the Modern Comics reprints of certain Charlton titles done by an 
independent publisher (independent of Charlton, that is) or was the Modern Comics imprint 
just an offshoot of Charlton? The printing on those comics was truly horrendous.
> 
> Allen Smith



                           

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Subject: Re: comic shop rant (wasCharlton Spotlight #6 now soliciting)
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I hate to sound like a "company man," but I have to say that, from the publ=
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sustaining venture. But that's not their fault. They only order from me the=
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get from their customers. That's where it becomess crucial that fans and re=
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Dan, no doubt you've encountered situations where you've asked your store t=
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Mike

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> You're right, of course ... except that Diamond's arrogant, monopolistic =
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My impression from talking with one local LCS owner in particular (Montgomery is a sorry excuse for a state capital -- so much so that it makes my former home, Little Rock, look like the height of cosmopolitan coolness -- but we *are* lucky enough to have two comics shops) is that a lot of it can stem from the particular accounts rep (or whatever they're called in this instnace) one happens to have. Some apparently go the extra mile to make sure that even the more offbeat stuff is supplied when ordered ... others evidently aren't very good about going an extra *inch*. 

A lot of the indie stuff I read I wind up ordering from Mile High or Lone Star, simply because neither LCS has been able to pry the mags in question (including, in at least one instance, your zine, Mike) out of Diamond.

Dan

-------------- Original message from "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.rr.com>: -------------- 

I hate to sound like a "company man," but I have to say that, from the publisher side of the 
equation, I've never had a problem--not one--with Diamond. Their purchase orders and 
shipping instructions are as clear as can be, they've never returned anything I've shipped 
them for any reason, their reorders (if any) come in promptly, and they pay on time. My 
only complaint is that they don't order enough copies to make Charlton Spotlight a self-
sustaining venture. But that's not their fault. They only order from me the numbers they 
get from their customers. That's where it becomess crucial that fans and readers make 
sure their comics shops order what they want to buy or would like to see in the shop. If 
the shop doesn't order it, it's not otherwise going to be on the shelves, because there are 
no other distributors than Diamond who wil handle my kind of magazine.

Dan, no doubt you've encountered situations where you've asked your store to order a 
product and they try to get it from Diamond and they say Diamond can't or won't get it for 
them. I suspect a lot of those instances may stem from the supplier's (publisher's) inability 
to supply the product for whatever reason, up to and including being impossible to 
communicate with. I never, ever delay any correspondence having to do with magazine 
business, especially where sales are involved!

Mike

P.S. So please, everybody, encourage your LCS to order Spotlight, even if you don't want it 
for yourself! Some other customer will want it! I sell a steady 5+ copies a year of all five 
issues through my local shop, Austin Books. That's just from walk-in business.

> You're right, of course ... except that Diamond's arrogant, monopolistic incompetence 
unfortunately cannot be underestimated, especially when it comes to fulfilling stores' 
orders for off-the-beaten-path titles like the ones I'm partial to.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/9/2008 5:06:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> ripjagger@... writes:
> <<Thanks. I'll be in my local store in the next few days and I'll make a 
> point to get them to order it up for me. They do a decent job of 
> getting some offbeat stuff and this is just the kind of thing they 
> might go for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if not, 
> then you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a copy.>>
> 
> taking this and running another way with it, 
> this is in a nutshell what is wrong with comic book shops.. 
> your local shop actually has no problem in getting anything from Previews. 
> ((assuming that it is printed and not cancelled)). All they have to do is put 
> a number beside the product name and number on their order form, the form 
> that they fill out every month anyway to get any product..
> the harder thing may be having a system to recall who they ordered it for. 
> 
> I realize that Dean's shop might actually be better than this rant of mine 
> indicates;
> but the only way that a shop can NOT get Charlton Spotlight is by not 
> ordering it. 
> 
> please support your local shop, but insist that they support you by actually 
> ordering the comics you request.
> 
> steven rowe


 

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all i know is, that at one time i could order the same item from two  shops,.
one would get it in,
 the other would say Diamond never shipped it.
 
I have a friend who has run a shop since before direct sales, he says if  
Diamond shorts him, he calls them and they talk about it - and usually Diamond  
will try to do right, often sending the item the next week.
 
I have no doubt that Diamond does lots of stuff wrong, - but bluntly  
everything in Diamond's catalog they want to sell - if it is printed, diamond  will 
ship it out (if not that well). If there is a continual  massive pattern - then 
I would suspect the shop is not being honest with  you.
 
  I order around $200 stuff from the Diamond catalog a month (yes  before a 
discount).  NONE of it Marvel, and only  a handful of DC or  image.  I havent 
missed an item in around 10 years.  Not one  item.
Now a few have been cancelled - but that's different.
 
steven rowe
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 3:01:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
charspot01@austin.rr.com writes:

 
 
 
I hate to sound like a "company man," but I have to say that, from the  
publisher side of the 
equation, I've never had a problem--not one--with  Diamond. Their purchase 
orders and 
shipping instructions are as clear as  can be, they've never returned 
anything I've shipped 
them for any reason,  their reorders (if any) come in promptly, and they pay 
on time. My 
only  complaint is that they don't order enough copies to make Charlton 
Spotlight a  self-
sustaining venture. But that's not their fault. They only order from  me the 
numbers they 
get from their customers. That's where it becomess  crucial that fans and 
readers make 
sure their comics shops order what they  want to buy or would like to see in 
the shop. If 
the shop doesn't order  it, it's not otherwise going to be on the shelves, 
because there are 
no  other distributors than Diamond who wil handle my kind of  magazine.

Dan, no doubt you've encountered situations where you've  asked your store to 
order a 
product and they try to get it from Diamond  and they say Diamond can't or 
won't get it for 
them. I suspect a lot of  those instances may stem from the supplier's 
(publisher's) inability 
to  supply the product for whatever reason, up to and including being 
impossible  to 
communicate with. I never, ever delay any correspondence having to do  with 
magazine 
business, especially where sales are  involved!

Mike

P.S. So please, everybody, encourage your LCS to  order Spotlight, even if 
you don't want it 
for yourself! Some other  customer will want it! I sell a steady 5+ copies a 
year of all five 
issues  through my local shop, Austin Books. That's just from walk-in  
business.

> You're right, of course ... except that Diamond's  arrogant, monopolistic 
incompetence 
unfortunately cannot be  underestimated, especially when it comes to 
fulfilling stores' 
orders for  off-the-beaten-orders for  off-the-beaten-<WBR>path t
> 
>  Dan
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/9/2008 5:06:13 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
> ripjagger@.. ripjagge
> <<Thanks.  I'll be in my local store in the next few days and I'll make a 
> point  to get them to order it up for me. They do a decent job of 
> getting  some offbeat stuff and this is just the kind of thing they 
> might go  for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if not, 
> then  you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a copy.>>
>  
> taking this and running another way with it, 
> this is in a  nutshell what is wrong with comic book shops.. 
> your local shop  actually has no problem in getting anything from Previews. 
> ((assuming  that it is printed and not cancelled)). All they have to do is 
put 
> a  number beside the product name and number on their order form, the form  
> that they fill out every month anyway to get any product..
>  the harder thing may be having a system to recall who they ordered it for. 
 
> 
> I realize that Dean's shop might actually be better than  this rant of mine 
> indicates;
> but the only way that a shop can  NOT get Charlton Spotlight is by not 
> ordering it. 
> 
>  please support your local shop, but insist that they support you by 
actually  
> ordering the comics you request.
> 
> steven  rowe


 




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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: comic shop rant (wasCharlton Spotlight
 #6 now soli...
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My impression is that Diamond is pretty good when it's filling initial 
orders. The problem is when a shop asks for something (particularly 
something from a smaller independent) after Diamond has already shipped 
everything it has initially gotten from the publisher. I think it's 
probably too much trouble for Diamond to bother with small re-orders. Of 
course, that's the way things used to be. It's been awhile since I've 
gone through Diamond. So things might've changed.

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
Last Kiss Entertainment
www.lastkisscomics.com

sangorshop@aol.com wrote:
>
> all i know is, that at one time i could order the same item from two 
> shops,.
> one would get it in,
> the other would say Diamond never shipped it.
>
> I have a friend who has run a shop since before direct sales, he says if
> Diamond shorts him, he calls them and they talk about it - and usually 
> Diamond
> will try to do right, often sending the item the next week.
>
> I have no doubt that Diamond does lots of stuff wrong, - but bluntly
> everything in Diamond's catalog they want to sell - if it is printed, 
> diamond will
> ship it out (if not that well). If there is a continual massive 
> pattern - then
> I would suspect the shop is not being honest with you.
>
> I order around $200 stuff from the Diamond catalog a month (yes before a
> discount). NONE of it Marvel, and only a handful of DC or image. I havent
> missed an item in around 10 years. Not one item.
> Now a few have been cancelled - but that's different.
>
> steven rowe
>
>
> In a message dated 4/10/2008 3:01:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> charspot01@austin.rr.com <mailto:charspot01%40austin.rr.com> writes:
>
> I hate to sound like a "company man," but I have to say that, from the
> publisher side of the
> equation, I've never had a problem--not one--with Diamond. Their purchase
> orders and
> shipping instructions are as clear as can be, they've never returned
> anything I've shipped
> them for any reason, their reorders (if any) come in promptly, and 
> they pay
> on time. My
> only complaint is that they don't order enough copies to make Charlton
> Spotlight a self-
> sustaining venture. But that's not their fault. They only order from 
> me the
> numbers they
> get from their customers. That's where it becomess crucial that fans and
> readers make
> sure their comics shops order what they want to buy or would like to 
> see in
> the shop. If
> the shop doesn't order it, it's not otherwise going to be on the shelves,
> because there are
> no other distributors than Diamond who wil handle my kind of magazine.
>
> Dan, no doubt you've encountered situations where you've asked your 
> store to
> order a
> product and they try to get it from Diamond and they say Diamond can't or
> won't get it for
> them. I suspect a lot of those instances may stem from the supplier's
> (publisher's) inability
> to supply the product for whatever reason, up to and including being
> impossible to
> communicate with. I never, ever delay any correspondence having to do 
> with
> magazine
> business, especially where sales are involved!
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. So please, everybody, encourage your LCS to order Spotlight, even if
> you don't want it
> for yourself! Some other customer will want it! I sell a steady 5+ 
> copies a
> year of all five
> issues through my local shop, Austin Books. That's just from walk-in
> business.
>
> > You're right, of course ... except that Diamond's arrogant, 
> monopolistic
> incompetence
> unfortunately cannot be underestimated, especially when it comes to
> fulfilling stores'
> orders for off-the-beaten-orders for off-the-beaten-<WBR>path t
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/9/2008 5:06:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > ripjagger@.. ripjagge
> > <<Thanks. I'll be in my local store in the next few days and I'll 
> make a
> > point to get them to order it up for me. They do a decent job of
> > getting some offbeat stuff and this is just the kind of thing they
> > might go for. I prefer to give them the business if I can, but if not,
> > then you can be sure I'll be contacting you to get hold of a copy.>>
> >
> > taking this and running another way with it,
> > this is in a nutshell what is wrong with comic book shops..
> > your local shop actually has no problem in getting anything from 
> Previews.
> > ((assuming that it is printed and not cancelled)). All they have to 
> do is
> put
> > a number beside the product name and number on their order form, the 
> form
> > that they fill out every month anyway to get any product..
> > the harder thing may be having a system to recall who they ordered 
> it for.
>
> >
> > I realize that Dean's shop might actually be better than this rant 
> of mine
> > indicates;
> > but the only way that a shop can NOT get Charlton Spotlight is by not
> > ordering it.
> >
> > please support your local shop, but insist that they support you by
> actually
> > ordering the comics you request.
> >
> > steven rowe
>
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I've had reorders from Diamond for as few as three copies at a time...thoug=
h, admittedly, not=20
for a couple years now. Their policy (or procedures or QC) may have changed=
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hate to see reorders that small, since the shipping costs eat up the alread=
y small profit. But I=20
would never refuse to fulfill any order, however small.

Mike

>
> My impression is that Diamond is pretty good when it's filling initial=20
> orders. The problem is when a shop asks for something (particularly=20
> something from a smaller independent) after Diamond has already shipped=20
> everything it has initially gotten from the publisher. I think it's=20
> probably too much trouble for Diamond to bother with small re-orders. Of=
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> course, that's the way things used to be. It's been awhile since I've=20
> gone through Diamond. So things might've changed.
>=20
> Best Wishes,
> John Lustig
> Last Kiss Entertainment
> www.lastkisscomics.com



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This has been an informative thread. I placed my order and I'm looking=20
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Dean


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I went to my comic shop here in Dallas (Titan Comics)
and made sure mine was preordered as well.  


--- ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This has been an informative thread. I placed my
> order and I'm looking 
> forward to reading the next Spotlight. I talked up
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> told them, they really needed to mention it to their
> other Charlton 
> fans -- both of them.
> 
> Dean
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That's my old website. A far more recent and more
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http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm

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> Thanks much for the link.


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Got it, Ramon.  Thanks.
   
       Allen Smith

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complete version can be found here:

http://www.ramonschenk.nl/charltoncomics/moderncomics.htm

Ramon

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> Thanks much for the link.

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Hello all,

This week is your LAST CHANCE to order the new CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #6 from t=
he=20
APRIL PREVIEWS. For those who missed my earlier announcement, CS #6 is a sp=
ecial ALL=20
ART & COMICS ISSUE featuring vintage, never-before-published, full-length E=
-MAN and=20
MICHAEL MAUSER stories by JOE STATON and NICK CUTI, fronted by a new full-c=
olor=20
STATON cover=97plus a gallery of unpublished, obscure and rare Charlton art=
 and artifacts,=20
editors and oddities, photos and fantasies. Featured creators and creations=
 include Steve=20
Ditko, Tom Sutton, Dick Giordano, Don Newton, John Buscema, Bill Fraccio, T=
ony Tallarico,=20
Ray Dirgo, George Wildman, Sal Gentile, Joe Gill, Pat Masulli, John Santang=
elo Jr., Walter=20
Gibson, Jim Janes, Tom Christopher, Paul Kirchner; Space Western, Doomsday+=
1, Sarge=20
Steel, Dr. Graves, Peacemaker, Thane, Son of Vulcan, Mastermind; and much m=
ore! There's=20
also a new selection of Nick Cuti's popular WEIRDLINGS cartoons, and we rou=
nd out the=20
issue with news, reviews, letters, and another installment of the complete =
Charlton comics=20
checklist. Back cover is an unpublished Charlton horror painting in full co=
lor by PAT=20
BOYETTE.

Rush down to your friendly neighborhood comics dealer and order your copy N=
OW.=20
Diamond's purchase order is critical to the continuation of this magazine, =
and I appreciate=20
everyone's effort to make sure the order is a big one. (If you don't live n=
ear a comic shop,=20
or they can't/won't order the mag, no problem: see below for details on ord=
ering directly=20
from me.)

Thanks!
Michael Ambrose
Editor & Publisher, Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.com

DIAMOND ORDER DETAILS:

PREVIEWS APRIL 2008
PAGE 388 (COMIC-THEMED MAGAZINES)
Item #: APR08 4250
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE #6 SUMMER FALL 2008 (C: 0-1-2)
64 pp., B&W, full-color covers, 8.5 x 11 inches, $7.95

You can preorder #6 directly from me for $7.95 (plus $2.00 postage USA; $3.=
00 Canada;=20
$9.00 rest of world), check/MO/PayPal in US funds to the address above.


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I put my order in at the nearest LCS last week. Here's hoping ...

Dan

-------------- Original message from "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@austin.r=
r.com>: --------------=20

Hello all,

This week is your LAST CHANCE to order the new CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #6 from t=
he=20
APRIL PREVIEWS. For those who missed my earlier announcement, CS #6 is a sp=
ecial ALL=20
ART & COMICS ISSUE featuring vintage, never-before-published, full-length E=
-MAN and=20
MICHAEL MAUSER stories by JOE STATON and NICK CUTI, fronted by a new full-c=
olor=20
STATON cover=97plus a gallery of unpublished, obscure and rare Charlton art=
 and artifacts,=20
editors and oddities, photos and fantasies. Featured creators and creations=
 include Steve=20
Ditko, Tom Sutton, Dick Giordano, Don Newton, John Buscema, Bill Fraccio, T=
ony Tallarico,=20
Ray Dirgo, George Wildman, Sal Gentile, Joe Gill, Pat Masulli, John Santang=
elo Jr., Walter=20
Gibson, Jim Janes, Tom Christopher, Paul Kirchner; Space Western, Doomsday+=
1, Sarge=20
Steel, Dr. Graves, Peacemaker, Thane, Son of Vulcan, Mastermind; and much m=
ore! There's=20
also a new selection of Nick Cuti's popular WEIRDLINGS cartoons, and we rou=
nd out the=20
issue with news, reviews, letters, and another installment of the complete =
Charlton comics=20
checklist. Back cover is an unpublished Charlton horror painting in full co=
lor by PAT=20
BOYETTE.

Rush down to your friendly neighborhood comics dealer and order your copy N=
OW.=20
Diamond's purchase order is critical to the continuation of this magazine, =
and I appreciate=20
everyone's effort to make sure the order is a big one. (If you don't live n=
ear a comic shop,=20
or they can't/won't order the mag, no problem: see below for details on ord=
ering directly=20
from me.)

Thanks!
Michael Ambrose
Editor & Publisher, Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.com

DIAMOND ORDER DETAILS:

PREVIEWS APRIL 2008
PAGE 388 (COMIC-THEMED MAGAZINES)
Item #: APR08 4250
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE #6 SUMMER FALL 2008 (C: 0-1-2)
64 pp., B&W, full-color covers, 8.5 x 11 inches, $7.95

You can preorder #6 directly from me for $7.95 (plus $2.00 postage USA; $3.=
00 Canada;=20
$9.00 rest of world), check/MO/PayPal in US funds to the address above.


=20

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Thanks, Dan!

Mike

> I put my order in at the nearest LCS last week. Here's hoping ...
>=20
> Dan
>=20
> -------------- Original message from "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@...>:=
=20
--------------=20
>=20
> Hello all,
>=20
> This week is your LAST CHANCE to order the new CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #6 from=
 the=20
> APRIL PREVIEWS. For those who missed my earlier announcement, CS #6 is a =
special ALL=20
> ART & COMICS ISSUE featuring vintage, never-before-published, full-length=
 E-MAN and=20
> MICHAEL MAUSER stories by JOE STATON and NICK CUTI, fronted by a new full=
-color=20
> STATON cover=97plus a gallery of unpublished, obscure and rare Charlton a=
rt and=20
artifacts,=20
> editors and oddities, photos and fantasies. Featured creators and creatio=
ns include=20
Steve=20
> Ditko, Tom Sutton, Dick Giordano, Don Newton, John Buscema, Bill Fraccio,=
 Tony=20
Tallarico,=20
> Ray Dirgo, George Wildman, Sal Gentile, Joe Gill, Pat Masulli, John Santa=
ngelo Jr., Walter=20
> Gibson, Jim Janes, Tom Christopher, Paul Kirchner; Space Western, Doomsda=
y+1, Sarge=20
> Steel, Dr. Graves, Peacemaker, Thane, Son of Vulcan, Mastermind; and much=
 more!=20
There's=20
> also a new selection of Nick Cuti's popular WEIRDLINGS cartoons, and we r=
ound out the=20
> issue with news, reviews, letters, and another installment of the complet=
e Charlton=20
comics=20
> checklist. Back cover is an unpublished Charlton horror painting in full =
color by PAT=20
> BOYETTE.
>=20
> Rush down to your friendly neighborhood comics dealer and order your copy=
 NOW.=20
> Diamond's purchase order is critical to the continuation of this magazine=
, and I=20
appreciate=20
> everyone's effort to make sure the order is a big one. (If you don't live=
 near a comic=20
shop,=20
> or they can't/won't order the mag, no problem: see below for details on o=
rdering=20
directly=20
> from me.)
>=20
> Thanks!
> Michael Ambrose
> Editor & Publisher, Charlton Spotlight
> Argo Press
> P.O. Box 4201
> Austin, TX 78765-4201
> charspot01@...
> www.charltonspotlight.com
>=20
> DIAMOND ORDER DETAILS:
>=20
> PREVIEWS APRIL 2008
> PAGE 388 (COMIC-THEMED MAGAZINES)
> Item #: APR08 4250
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE #6 SUMMER FALL 2008 (C: 0-1-2)
> 64 pp., B&W, full-color covers, 8.5 x 11 inches, $7.95
>=20
> You can preorder #6 directly from me for $7.95 (plus $2.00 postage USA; $=
3.00=20
Canada;=20
> $9.00 rest of world), check/MO/PayPal in US funds to the address above.
>


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Mike,=0D
=0D
     I have to have one!   I will send you a money order this week.=20
Anything with E-Man I must have!=0D
=0D
Rome=0D
=0D
=0D
 =0D
-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: Michael Ambrose=0D
Date: 04/23/08 19:35:01=0D
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=0D
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: LAST CALL: Charlton Spotlight #6 now
soliciting!=0D
 =0D
Thanks, Dan!=0D
=0D
Mike=0D
=0D
> I put my order in at the nearest LCS last week. Here's hoping ...=0D
> =0D
> Dan=0D
> =0D
> -------------- Original message from "Michael Ambrose" <charspot01@...>: =
=0D
-------------- =0D
> =0D
> Hello all,=0D
> =0D
> This week is your LAST CHANCE to order the new CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #6 from
the =0D
> APRIL PREVIEWS. For those who missed my earlier announcement, CS #6 is a
special ALL =0D
> ART & COMICS ISSUE featuring vintage, never-before-published, full-length
E-MAN and =0D
> MICHAEL MAUSER stories by JOE STATON and NICK CUTI, fronted by a new
full-color =0D
> STATON cover=97plus a gallery of unpublished, obscure and rare Charlton a=
rt
and =0D
artifacts, =0D
> editors and oddities, photos and fantasies. Featured creators and
creations include =0D
Steve =0D
> Ditko, Tom Sutton, Dick Giordano, Don Newton, John Buscema, Bill Fraccio,
Tony =0D
Tallarico, =0D
> Ray Dirgo, George Wildman, Sal Gentile, Joe Gill, Pat Masulli, John
Santangelo Jr., Walter =0D
> Gibson, Jim Janes, Tom Christopher, Paul Kirchner; Space Western,
Doomsday+1, Sarge =0D
> Steel, Dr. Graves, Peacemaker, Thane, Son of Vulcan, Mastermind; and much
more! =0D
There's =0D
> also a new selection of Nick Cuti's popular WEIRDLINGS cartoons, and we
round out the =0D
> issue with news, reviews, letters, and another installment of the complet=
e
Charlton =0D
comics =0D
> checklist. Back cover is an unpublished Charlton horror painting in full
color by PAT =0D
> BOYETTE.=0D
> =0D
> Rush down to your friendly neighborhood comics dealer and order your copy
NOW. =0D
> Diamond's purchase order is critical to the continuation of this magazine=
,
and I =0D
appreciate =0D
> everyone's effort to make sure the order is a big one. (If you don't live
near a comic =0D
shop, =0D
> or they can't/won't order the mag, no problem: see below for details on
ordering =0D
directly =0D
> from me.)=0D
> =0D
> Thanks!=0D
> Michael Ambrose=0D
> Editor & Publisher, Charlton Spotlight=0D
> Argo Press=0D
> P.O. Box 4201=0D
> Austin, TX 78765-4201=0D
> charspot01@...=0D
> www.charltonspotlight.com=0D
> =0D
> DIAMOND ORDER DETAILS:=0D
> =0D
> PREVIEWS APRIL 2008=0D
> PAGE 388 (COMIC-THEMED MAGAZINES)=0D
> Item #: APR08 4250=0D
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE #6 SUMMER FALL 2008 (C: 0-1-2)=0D
> 64 pp., B&W, full-color covers, 8.5 x 11 inches, $7.95=0D
> =0D
> You can preorder #6 directly from me for $7.95 (plus $2.00 postage USA; $=
3
00 =0D
Canada; =0D
> $9.00 rest of world), check/MO/PayPal in US funds to the address above.=
=0D
>=0D
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=0D
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To all,

I came into possession of a nearly complete collection of Comic  
Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a few years ago -  
not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a local comic shop  
who got it from one of his customers, The shop owner's intention was  
very much like my own - to look it over and then pass it on to  
someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on to me. The  
collection took up almost all of the bed of my Ranger, one layer deep  
in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy. And it is filling  
two shelving units in my garage. And, the frustrating thing is, it  
used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times since it was in  
order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of it as a jigsaw  
puzzle 1/3 finished.

Anyhow . . .

My intention was to go through it, put it back in order, and find it a  
home. Looks like I am rapidly approaching the find it a home part  
without sorting.

That's where you guys come in.

I would prefer it go to a library or school that collects comics. I  
will help with shipping but can't afford to pay for it outright.

Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it just too much  
bulk for any organization to even bother with?

So, first it should go in total to some kind of institution. Second, I  
would consider sending out individual issues to individuals for the  
cost of postage. Third, the recycling folks at the Waste Management  
plant will be the new, and short lived, custodians and the collection  
will be recycled.

Any thoughts out there?

Thanks,
Ed




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The Action Figure Museum in Paul's Valley, Oklahoma
have a nice collection of fanzines -- they might be
able to take them and use them. And, since it's a
nonprofit, you get a tax write off :)

--- Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net> wrote:

> To all,
> 
> I came into possession of a nearly complete
> collection of Comic  
> Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a
> few years ago -  
> not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a
> local comic shop  
> who got it from one of his customers, The shop
> owner's intention was  
> very much like my own - to look it over and then
> pass it on to  
> someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on
> to me. The  
> collection took up almost all of the bed of my
> Ranger, one layer deep  
> in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy.
> And it is filling  
> two shelving units in my garage. And, the
> frustrating thing is, it  
> used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times
> since it was in  
> order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of
> it as a jigsaw  
> puzzle 1/3 finished.
> 
> Anyhow . . .
> 
> My intention was to go through it, put it back in
> order, and find it a  
> home. Looks like I am rapidly approaching the find
> it a home part  
> without sorting.
> 
> That's where you guys come in.
> 
> I would prefer it go to a library or school that
> collects comics. I  
> will help with shipping but can't afford to pay for
> it outright.
> 
> Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it
> just too much  
> bulk for any organization to even bother with?
> 
> So, first it should go in total to some kind of
> institution. Second, I  
> would consider sending out individual issues to
> individuals for the  
> cost of postage. Third, the recycling folks at the
> Waste Management  
> plant will be the new, and short lived, custodians
> and the collection  
> will be recycled.
> 
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Ed,

I recommend hanging onto the collection long enough to find a willing insti=
tutional=20
taker--willing to come pick it up or pay for shipping, anyway. Years ago I =
acquired a nice=20
medium-sized stack of TBG/CBG that specifically had Charlton references. Th=
ey take up a=20
lot of room but they're very useful additions to my Charlton files. That zi=
ne and TCR were=20
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somewhere that would love to have them.

Mike A.
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There's the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco, or the Mandeville Library at UCSD.  Maybe one of them would be interested?
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
To: ed@edsavage.com
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:47:45 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] buyers guide collection

                To all,

I came into possession of a nearly complete collection of Comic  
Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a few years ago -  
not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a local comic shop  
who got it from one of his customers, The shop owner's intention was  
very much like my own - to look it over and then pass it on to  
someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on to me. The  
collection took up almost all of the bed of my Ranger, one layer deep  
in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy. And it is filling  
two shelving units in my garage. And, the frustrating thing is, it  
used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times since it was in  
order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of it as a jigsaw  
puzzle 1/3 finished.

Anyhow . . .

My intention was to go through it, put it back in order, and find it a  
home. Looks like I am rapidly approaching the find it a home part  
without sorting.

That's where you guys come in.

I would prefer it go to a library or school that collects comics. I  
will help with shipping but can't afford to pay for it outright.

Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it just too much  
bulk for any organization to even bother with?

So, first it should go in total to some kind of institution. Second, I  
would consider sending out individual issues to individuals for the  
cost of postage. Third, the recycling folks at the Waste Management  
plant will be the new, and short lived, custodians and the collection  
will be recycled.

Any thoughts out there?

Thanks,
Ed

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The good ole Library of Congree might be a good place
to inquire as well. They have two comic book historian
librarians on staff full time :) (Dream job.)
--- Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

> There's the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco, or
> the Mandeville Library at UCSD.  Maybe one of them
> would be interested?
> Darci
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net>
> To: ed@edsavage.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:47:45 PM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] buyers guide collection
> 
>                 To all,
> 
> I came into possession of a nearly complete
> collection of Comic  
> Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a
> few years ago -  
> not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a
> local comic shop  
> who got it from one of his customers, The shop
> owner's intention was  
> very much like my own - to look it over and then
> pass it on to  
> someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on
> to me. The  
> collection took up almost all of the bed of my
> Ranger, one layer deep  
> in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy.
> And it is filling  
> two shelving units in my garage. And, the
> frustrating thing is, it  
> used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times
> since it was in  
> order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of
> it as a jigsaw  
> puzzle 1/3 finished.
> 
> Anyhow . . .
> 
> My intention was to go through it, put it back in
> order, and find it a  
> home. Looks like I am rapidly approaching the find
> it a home part  
> without sorting.
> 
> That's where you guys come in.
> 
> I would prefer it go to a library or school that
> collects comics. I  
> will help with shipping but can't afford to pay for
> it outright.
> 
> Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it
> just too much  
> bulk for any organization to even bother with?
> 
> So, first it should go in total to some kind of
> institution. Second, I  
> would consider sending out individual issues to
> individuals for the  
> cost of postage. Third, the recycling folks at the
> Waste Management  
> plant will be the new, and short lived, custodians
> and the collection  
> will be recycled.
> 
> Any thoughts out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
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From: John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com>
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While it's unlikely, there is a possibility that the folks at CBG are 
missing some issues for their own archive. More likely, they may know of 
a fan who wants copies. Or they might even give you a free ad or an 
article letting fans know that the issues are available.

I'd take 'em myself if space wasn't such an issue.


Best Wishes,
John Lustig
Last Kiss Entertainment
7218 27th Ave. N.E.
Seattle, WA 98115
www.lastkisscomics.com

R S wrote:
>
> The good ole Library of Congree might be a good place
> to inquire as well. They have two comic book historian
> librarians on staff full time :) (Dream job.)
> --- Darci <darci386@yahoo.com <mailto:darci386%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> > There's the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco, or
> > the Mandeville Library at UCSD. Maybe one of them
> > would be interested?
> > Darci
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ed Savage <edsavage@earthlink.net 
> <mailto:edsavage%40earthlink.net>>
> > To: ed@edsavage.com <mailto:ed%40edsavage.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 4:47:45 PM
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] buyers guide collection
> >
> > To all,
> >
> > I came into possession of a nearly complete
> > collection of Comic
> > Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a
> > few years ago -
> > not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a
> > local comic shop
> > who got it from one of his customers, The shop
> > owner's intention was
> > very much like my own - to look it over and then
> > pass it on to
> > someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on
> > to me. The
> > collection took up almost all of the bed of my
> > Ranger, one layer deep
> > in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy.
> > And it is filling
> > two shelving units in my garage. And, the
> > frustrating thing is, it
> > used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times
> > since it was in
> > order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of
> > it as a jigsaw
> > puzzle 1/3 finished.
> >
> > Anyhow . . .
> >
> > My intention was to go through it, put it back in
> > order, and find it a
> > home. Looks like I am rapidly approaching the find
> > it a home part
> > without sorting.
> >
> > That's where you guys come in.
> >
> > I would prefer it go to a library or school that
> > collects comics. I
> > will help with shipping but can't afford to pay for
> > it outright.
> >
> > Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it
> > just too much
> > bulk for any organization to even bother with?
> >
> > So, first it should go in total to some kind of
> > institution. Second, I
> > would consider sending out individual issues to
> > individuals for the
> > cost of postage. Third, the recycling folks at the
> > Waste Management
> > plant will be the new, and short lived, custodians
> > and the collection
> > will be recycled.
> >
> > Any thoughts out there?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
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last I heard the largest collection of comic books in a library is at  
Michigan State University.
However, I believe they have a complete collection of TBG/CBG.
Duke has a rather large collection (most comics from the late 50s-early  80s) 
- not sure what they take for donations.  However if they dont need  them, I 
am sure you can find out from their special collections librarian (is  Randy 
Scott still at MSU?) who might want it.
 
steven rowe
 
 
In a message dated 5/3/2008 8:21:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
darci386@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
There's the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco, or the Mandeville Library  
at UCSD. Maybe one of them would be interested?
Darci

----- Original  Message ----
From: Ed Savage <_edsavage@earthlink.eds_ (mailto:edsavage@earthlink.net) >
To:  _ed@edsavage.ed@_ (mailto:ed@edsavage.com) 
Sent: Thursday,  May 1, 2008 4:47:45 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] buyers guide  collection

To all,

I came into possession of a nearly complete  collection of Comic 
Buyer's Guide from the time Krause took over until a  few years ago - 
not sure exactly when the run stops. Got it from a local  comic shop 
who got it from one of his customers, The shop owner's  intention was 
very much like my own - to look it over and then pass it on  to 
someone. He skipped the first part and passed it on to me. The  
collection took up almost all of the bed of my Ranger, one layer deep  
in paper boxes. It's a lot of paper and it's heavy. And it is filling  
two shelving units in my garage. And, the frustrating thing is, it  
used to be in order. But it has been moved 3 times since it was in  
order. It is probably in order in chunks. Think of it as a jigsaw  
puzzle 1/3 finished.

Anyhow . . .

My intention was to go  through it, put it back in order, and find it a 
home. Looks like I am  rapidly approaching the find it a home part 
without sorting.

That's  where you guys come in.

I would prefer it go to a library or school  that collects comics. I 
will help with shipping but can't afford to pay  for it outright.

Is this a worthwhile goal or even worth doing? Is it  just too much 
bulk for any organization to even bother with?

So,  first it should go in total to some kind of institution. Second, I 
would  consider sending out individual issues to individuals for the 
cost of  postage. Third, the recycling folks at the Waste Management 
plant will be  the new, and short lived, custodians and the collection 
will be  recycled.

Any thoughts out there?

Thanks,
Ed

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I'm new and will be here infrequently...started buying comics in the=20
early 60s....sadly sold about 5000 in 1970...started again and sold=20
nearly 10,000.... and back and forth...Charlton was always the=20
backburner of the group being a big Marvel fan...but something about=20
the crudeness of the actual comic..not the art or script but the actual=20
publication...you all know what I mean....stuck with me...have bought=20
up a few since..even a couple of 40s and 50s ones I'd never seen=20
before. Anyone done scans here for distro? I hate reading on the=20
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the ones I can not aford or find.

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Sipseywilderness


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Hi Rick,

Have you seen my magazine Charlton Spotlight? I modestly recommend it as a =
must-have=20
if you're a Charlton fan.

I've found over the years that the majority of Charlton comics from the 196=
0s on are still=20
pretty reasonable, if you take the trouble to look. There are always good d=
eals on eBay for=20
the ghost and war comics and even the action-hero books.

Mike Ambrose
www.charltonspotlight.com

>
> I'm new and will be here infrequently...started buying comics in the=20
> early 60s....sadly sold about 5000 in 1970...started again and sold=20
> nearly 10,000.... and back and forth...Charlton was always the=20
> backburner of the group being a big Marvel fan...but something about=20
> the crudeness of the actual comic..not the art or script but the actual=20
> publication...you all know what I mean....stuck with me...have bought=20
> up a few since..even a couple of 40s and 50s ones I'd never seen=20
> before. Anyone done scans here for distro? I hate reading on the=20
> pc...no matter what smart boy tells me that real comics are the thing=20
> of the past..I feel so sorry for them..so deprived...unless its in your=20
> hands it is not a comic book. Still it would be nice to look at some of=20
> the ones I can not aford or find.
>=20
> Best
> Sipseywilderness
>



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Hi Mike

(Posted this the other day but it was bounced for some reason..trying=20
again)

Yes I have...have the first 5 issues...how far am I behind? An=20
excellent mag and a must for anyone interested in Charlton.=20

And your right on prices for many Charltons...at least youre right=20
for most..since retiring and now gas prices I find even those a=20
little over my budget....did pick up some good ones from the 40s and=20
50s from Metropolis and Mile High about 2 years ago tho.

Best
Rick--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Ambrose"=20
<charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rick,
>=20
> Have you seen my magazine Charlton Spotlight? I modestly recommend=20
it as a must-have=20
> if you're a Charlton fan.
>=20
> I've found over the years that the majority of Charlton comics from=20
the 1960s on are still=20
> pretty reasonable, if you take the trouble to look. There are=20
always good deals on eBay for=20
> the ghost and war comics and even the action-hero books.
>=20
> Mike Ambrose
> www.charltonspotlight.com
>=20
> >
> > I'm new and will be here infrequently...started buying comics in=20
the=20
> > early 60s....sadly sold about 5000 in 1970...started again and=20
sold=20
> > nearly 10,000.... and back and forth...Charlton was always the=20
> > backburner of the group being a big Marvel fan...but something=20
about=20
> > the crudeness of the actual comic..not the art or script but the=20
actual=20
> > publication...you all know what I mean....stuck with me...have=20
bought=20
> > up a few since..even a couple of 40s and 50s ones I'd never seen=20
> > before. Anyone done scans here for distro? I hate reading on the=20
> > pc...no matter what smart boy tells me that real comics are the=20
thing=20
> > of the past..I feel so sorry for them..so deprived...unless its=20
in your=20
> > hands it is not a comic book. Still it would be nice to look at=20
some of=20
> > the ones I can not aford or find.
> >=20
> > Best
> > Sipseywilderness
> >
>



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In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
&nbsp;
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 5/29/08, mikelnorwitz &lt;blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net&gt; wrote:

From: mikelnorwitz &lt;blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net&gt;
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &lt;gasp65@...&gt; 
wrote:

&gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
through 
&gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
bomb) 
&gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
kill 
&gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
someone 
&gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
wholesale 
&gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
&gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
way 
&gt; of the entertainment.

I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.

&gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
&gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
&gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
understanding 
&gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.

Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
rather subtle joke to my wife.

 














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I really don't understand DC's attitude.  It's like they bought the Charlton characters just to destroy them.
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:                             In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
 &nbsp;
 Phil Latter
 
 --- On Thu, 5/29/08, mikelnorwitz &lt;blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net&gt; wrote:
 
 From: mikelnorwitz &lt;blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net&gt;
 Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
 To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
 Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 12:38 PM
 
 --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &lt;gasp65@...&gt; 
 wrote:
 
 &gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
 through 
 &gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
 bomb) 
 &gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
 kill 
 &gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
 someone 
 &gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
 wholesale 
 &gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
 &gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
 way 
 &gt; of the entertainment.
 
 I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
 terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.
 
 &gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
 &gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
 &gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
 understanding 
 &gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.
 
 Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
 actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
 rather subtle joke to my wife.
 
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You're right about that.
They just brought back the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, in the Booster Gold title. But I know he's going to die again, sacrifice himself. See, Booster Gold going through time and saving Blue Beetle from being killed, has affected the natural course of events. As a result, lots of major DC heroes are being killed, whereas they didn't die before......and it just gets worse each issue.
&nbsp;
Booster's in denial, but the Ted Kord BB knows what is going on.....
&nbsp;
The Peacemaker is long dead, The Question is now a woman, (as is Judomaster, over in the pages of JSA), the Peacemaker was long ago replaced by someone else in a RED outfit with a stupid glass helmet, etcetera.....
&nbsp;
DC doesn't care about the Charlton heroes.
&nbsp;
Best,
&nbsp;
Phil

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From: Darci &lt;darci386@yahoo.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton characters just to destroy them.
Darci

Phil Latter &lt;chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca&gt; wrote: In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
&amp;nbsp;
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 5/29/08, mikelnorwitz &amp;lt;blaklion@blaklion. best.vwh. net&amp;gt; wrote:

From: mikelnorwitz &amp;lt;blaklion@blaklion. best.vwh. net&amp;gt;
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 12:38 PM

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &amp;lt;gasp65@. ..&amp;gt; 
wrote:

&amp;gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
through 
&amp;gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
bomb) 
&amp;gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
kill 
&amp;gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
someone 
&amp;gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
wholesale 
&amp;gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
&amp;gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
way 
&amp;gt; of the entertainment.

I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.

&amp;gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
&amp;gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
&amp;gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
understanding 
&amp;gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.

Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
rather subtle joke to my wife.

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DC did the same thing with the Archie superheroes.  They take the name only with the character unrecognizable.  Is the universe out of new superhero names or something?  I notice new books coming out all the time with some pretty cool superhero names.  If DC does not want to use a character I wish they would leave them alone to our fond memories.  If they are trying to reach those who knew the character when they are doing a poor job of it. JIM

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Don't forget about the series that DC did a few years back that starred all of the Charlton characters called L.A.W. In it, they ended up making Tiger the bad guy, saying that Judomaster abandoned him after the war. At least they've undid what they had happen to NIghtshade in that series.
       

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That's just what they did do.  Only reason to buy the Charlton heroes was to prevent Charlton, or some other publisher who might have purchased the rights from Charlton had DC not done so, from using the Charlton heroes to launch a competing line.  Of course, initially, it was Dick Giordano, who edited the Charlton titles, who wanted the Action Heroes, but once he was gone it was open season.  I mean, the current crop of creators at DC doesn't want to create anything new, so they're content to destroy what someone else created.
   
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Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:
          I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton characters just to destroy them.
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote: In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
&nbsp;
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 5/29/08, mikelnorwitz &lt;blaklion@blaklion.best.vwh.net&gt; wrote:

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 12:38 PM

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &lt;gasp65@...&gt; 
wrote:

&gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
through 
&gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
bomb) 
&gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
kill 
&gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
someone 
&gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
wholesale 
&gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
&gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
way 
&gt; of the entertainment.

I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.

&gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
&gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
&gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
understanding 
&gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.

Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
rather subtle joke to my wife.

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I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
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I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton=
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Oh. The Charlton characters who have died at DC so far, are: the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, the original Dan Garrett Blue Beetle (he came back from death, then died again), the Vic Sage original Question, and the original Christopher Smith Peacemaker, who first went insane, and constantly talking to the ghost of his dead (Nazi) father, then Peacemaker died.
&nbsp;
As stated earlier, the NEW Question and the NEW Judomaster are both women.
&nbsp;
Meantime, Captain Atom is unrecognizable, The Son Of Vulcan is also dead, and a kid has taken his place. Just as a kid has taken the place of the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.
&nbsp;
And of course, Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt is gone from DC entirely, since the legal owners of the character are Pete Morisi's family.
&nbsp;
Phil Latter

--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Phil Latter &lt;chromium_foil@yahoo.ca&gt; wrote:

From: Phil Latter &lt;chromium_foil@yahoo.ca&gt;
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:43 AM






You're right about that.
They just brought back the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, in the Booster Gold title. But I know he's going to die again, sacrifice himself. See, Booster Gold going through time and saving Blue Beetle from being killed, has affected the natural course of events. As a result, lots of major DC heroes are being killed, whereas they didn't die before...... and it just gets worse each issue.
&amp;nbsp;
Booster's in denial, but the Ted Kord BB knows what is going on.....
&amp;nbsp;
The Peacemaker is long dead, The Question is now a woman, (as is Judomaster, over in the pages of JSA), the Peacemaker was long ago replaced by someone else in a RED outfit with a stupid glass helmet, etcetera.... .
&amp;nbsp;
DC doesn't care about the Charlton heroes.
&amp;nbsp;
Best,
&amp;nbsp;
Phil

--- On Thu, 5/29/08, Darci &amp;lt;darci386@yahoo. com&amp;gt; wrote:

From: Darci &amp;lt;darci386@yahoo. com&amp;gt;
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:08 PM

I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton characters just to destroy them.
Darci

Phil Latter &amp;lt;chromium_ foil@ yahoo.ca&amp;gt; wrote: In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
&amp;amp;nbsp;
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 5/29/08, mikelnorwitz &amp;amp;lt;blaklion@ blaklion. best.vwh. net&amp;amp;gt; wrote:

From: mikelnorwitz &amp;amp;lt;blaklion@ blaklion. best.vwh. net&amp;amp;gt;
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
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--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &amp;amp;lt;gasp65@ . ..&amp;amp;gt; 
wrote:

&amp;amp;gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
through 
&amp;amp;gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
bomb) 
&amp;amp;gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
kill 
&amp;amp;gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
someone 
&amp;amp;gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
wholesale 
&amp;amp;gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
&amp;amp;gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
way 
&amp;amp;gt; of the entertainment.

I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.

&amp;amp;gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
&amp;amp;gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
&amp;amp;gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
understanding 
&amp;amp;gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.

Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
rather subtle joke to my wife.

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Thunderbolt probably doesn't realize how lucky he's been!
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:                             Oh. The Charlton characters who have died at DC so far, are: the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, the original Dan Garrett Blue Beetle (he came back from death, then died again), the Vic Sage original Question, and the original Christopher Smith Peacemaker, who first went insane, and constantly talking to the ghost of his dead (Nazi) father, then Peacemaker died.
 &nbsp;
 As stated earlier, the NEW Question and the NEW Judomaster are both women.
 &nbsp;
 Meantime, Captain Atom is unrecognizable, The Son Of Vulcan is also dead, and a kid has taken his place. Just as a kid has taken the place of the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.
 &nbsp;
 And of course, Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt is gone from DC entirely, since the legal owners of the character are Pete Morisi's family.
 &nbsp;
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So what? DC doesn't care about any heroes...

Let's split continuity intwo, let's kill Superman, let's kill Superman again, let's destroy the multiverse, let's break Batman's back, let's kill Robin, let's crash our universe with another and again, and again, let's upset continuity somewhat more. That 's what they are doing there all the time. They are just interested in selling comics, not in keeping a good relation with readers for dozens of years.

I mean: Who of us still remembers the true name of the original Nightwing?



  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  You're right about that.
  They just brought back the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, in the Booster Gold title. But I know he's going to die again, sacrifice himself. See, Booster Gold going through time and saving Blue Beetle from being killed, has affected the natural course of events. As a result, lots of major DC heroes are being killed, whereas they didn't die before......and it just gets worse each issue.
  &nbsp;
  Booster's in denial, but the Ted Kord BB knows what is going on.....
  &nbsp;
  The Peacemaker is long dead, The Question is now a woman, (as is Judomaster, over in the pages of JSA), the Peacemaker was long ago replaced by someone else in a RED outfit with a stupid glass helmet, etcetera.....
  &nbsp;
  DC doesn't care about the Charlton heroes.
  &nbsp;
  Best,
  &nbsp;
  Phil

  --- On Thu, 5/29/08, Darci &lt;darci386@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:

  From: Darci &lt;darci386@yahoo.com&gt;
  Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead
  To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
  Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:08 PM

  I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton characters just to destroy them.
  Darci

  Phil Latter &lt;chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca&gt; wrote: In DC Comics, the original Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Rene Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
  &amp;nbsp;
  Phil Latter

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  From: mikelnorwitz &amp;lt;blaklion@blaklion. best.vwh. net&amp;gt;
  Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
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  --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Gagnon &amp;lt;gasp65@. ..&amp;gt; 
  wrote:

  &amp;gt; I guess Cooke wanted to express his shallow revenge fantasies 
  through 
  &amp;gt; the Question, so he set up some straw men for him to kill (by 
  bomb) 
  &amp;gt; by the hundreds. Right. Last time I checked, the Question didn't 
  kill 
  &amp;gt; anyone, he let some people die because risking his life for 
  someone 
  &amp;gt; who'd tried to kill him was not rational. But cold-blooded 
  wholesale 
  &amp;gt; slaughter, in the name of premptive "justice"? Right. I guess the 
  &amp;gt; "rational" part of too heavy a burden to carry, and gets in the 
  way 
  &amp;gt; of the entertainment.

  I like a lot of Cooke's writing, but all his attempts to deal with 
  terrorism in that issue were horrendously clumsy.

  &amp;gt; And speaking of that style, Bruce Timm (and friends)'s animated 
  &amp;gt; Question is certainly done right. It's the Rorschach Question, of 
  &amp;gt; course, but with a clearly high degree of love for, and 
  understanding 
  &amp;gt; of the character. Not to mention great skill.

  Absolutely. And when they had the character (speaking to Luthor) 
  actually say "A is A," I cracked up, and then had to explain the 
  rather subtle joke to my wife.

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What happened to Nightshade in The L.A.W-? I don't recall.
&nbsp;
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Don't forget about the series that DC did a few years back that starred all of the Charlton characters called L.A.W. In it, they ended up making Tiger the bad guy, saying that Judomaster abandoned him after the war. At least they've undid what they had happen to NIghtshade in that series.


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You're likely right about that, Darcy.
&nbsp;
Phil

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Thunderbolt probably doesn't realize how lucky he's been!
Darci

Phil Latter &lt;chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca&gt; wrote: Oh. The Charlton characters who have died at DC so far, are: the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, the original Dan Garrett Blue Beetle (he came back from death, then died again), the Vic Sage original Question, and the original Christopher Smith Peacemaker, who first went insane, and constantly talking to the ghost of his dead (Nazi) father, then Peacemaker died.
&amp;nbsp;
As stated earlier, the NEW Question and the NEW Judomaster are both women.
&amp;nbsp;
Meantime, Captain Atom is unrecognizable, The Son Of Vulcan is also dead, and a kid has taken his place. Just as a kid has taken the place of the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.
&amp;nbsp;
And of course, Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt is gone from DC entirely, since the legal owners of the character are Pete Morisi's family.
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I take it you mean Kal-El?
Darci



----- Original Message ----
From: Theodoor Westerhof <t.westerhof@freeler.nl>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:10:53 PM
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So what? DC doesn't care about any heroes...

Let's split continuity intwo, let's kill Superman, let's kill Superman agai=
n, let's destroy the multiverse, let's break Batman's back, let's kill Robi=
n, let's crash our universe with another and again, and again, let's upset =
continuity somewhat more. That 's what they are doing there all the time. T=
hey are just interested in selling comics, not in keeping a good relation w=
ith readers for dozens of years.

I mean: Who of us still remembers the true name of the original Nightwing?

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Phil Latter=20
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead

You're right about that.
They just brought back the Ted Kord Blue Beetle, in the Booster Gold title.=
 But I know he's going to die again, sacrifice himself. See, Booster Gold g=
oing through time and saving Blue Beetle from being killed, has affected th=
e natural course of events. As a result, lots of major DC heroes are being =
killed, whereas they didn't die before...... and it just gets worse each is=
sue.
&nbsp;
Booster's in denial, but the Ted Kord BB knows what is going on.....
&nbsp;
The Peacemaker is long dead, The Question is now a woman, (as is Judomaster=
, over in the pages of JSA), the Peacemaker was long ago replaced by someon=
e else in a RED outfit with a stupid glass helmet, etcetera.... .
&nbsp;
DC doesn't care about the Charlton heroes.
&nbsp;
Best,
&nbsp;
Phil

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From: Darci &lt;darci386@yahoo. com&gt;
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Question is dead
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:08 PM

I really don't understand DC's attitude. It's like they bought the Charlton=
 characters just to destroy them.
Darci

Phil Latter &lt;chromium_ foil@ yahoo.ca&gt; wrote: In DC Comics, the origi=
nal Question, Vic Sage, is dead. There is now a new female Question aka Ren=
e Montoya. No, I'm not happy about it either.
&amp;nbsp;
Phil Latter

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&amp;gt; wrote:

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Versions of the Question
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
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Methinks we should be happy they haven't been able to get their hands on Hoppy...
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Fate (the one with the tattoo over his eye) showed up and removed the succubus that lived inside of her. By doing that, he basically left a female shaped void. A guy named Salt arrives with Steel and reaches into the void, pulling Eve out. When she "enacts" her powers, she appears totally white with shadows swarming around her. Her attitude and manner of speech is now closer to the Phantom Stranger than the old Nightshade we remember. 
   
  Even though it isn't how we originally remembered her, her appearance in Shadowpact was more enjoyable.
   
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Actually, 
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DC did one DC Presents with Superman and Captain Marvel, where Superman met Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit. It was quite funny!
&nbsp;
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Methinks we should be happy they haven't been able to get their hands on Hoppy...
&amp;nbsp;
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"I do" would have done,

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  I take it you mean Kal-El?
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And a few appearances in The Power of Shazam, right? Or am I confusing those with the Hoppy tribute in Tom Strong?
&nbsp;
Best,
Ramon

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Actually, 
&amp;nbsp;
DC did one DC Presents with Superman and Captain Marvel, where Superman met Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit. It was quite funny!
&amp;nbsp;
Phil

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Methinks we should be happy they haven't been able to get their hands on Hoppy...
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Yep,
I think Hoppy was in some of those, too!
&nbsp;
My question is, did Hoppy team up with any of the other Marvel Family in the old Fawcett comics? I know he had a long run in funny animal comics...
&nbsp;
Phil Latter

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And a few appearances in The Power of Shazam, right? Or am I confusing those with the Hoppy tribute in Tom Strong?
&amp;nbsp;
Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
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Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
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Actually, 
&amp;amp;nbsp;
DC did one DC Presents with Superman and Captain Marvel, where Superman met Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit. It was quite funny!
&amp;amp;nbsp;
Phil

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Methinks we should be happy they haven't been able to get their hands on Hoppy...
&amp;amp;amp;nbsp;
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charlton comics published some hoppy stories, but they renamed hoppy in the stories.

somewhere i have an issue of f.f.a. where hoppy battles a bunny version of black adam.  he lives in hell, and has little black devils as his minions.  all of the evil bunny's powers are fake.  it was one of the better hoppy adventures.


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> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 6:36 PM
> Yep,
> I think Hoppy was in some of those, too!
> &nbsp;
> My question is, did Hoppy team up with any of the other
> Marvel Family in the old Fawcett comics? I know he had a
> long run in funny animal comics...
> &nbsp;
> Phil Latter
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Ramon Schenk
> &lt;ramonschenk@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
> 
> From: Ramon Schenk &lt;ramonschenk@yahoo.com&gt;
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, June 2, 2008, 4:38 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And a few appearances in The Power of Shazam, right? Or am
> I confusing those with the Hoppy tribute in Tom Strong?
> &amp;nbsp;
> Best,
> Ramon
> 
> Ramon Schenk,
> contributing editor
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
> http://www.charlton spotlight. com
> 
> Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
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> 
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> yahoo.ca&amp;gt; wrote:
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> From: Phil Latter &amp;lt;chromium_foil@
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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 1:11 AM
> 
> Actually, 
> &amp;amp;nbsp;
> DC did one DC Presents with Superman and Captain Marvel,
> where Superman met Hoppy The Marvel Rabbit. It was quite
> funny!
> &amp;amp;nbsp;
> Phil
> 
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> Methinks we should be happy they haven't been able to
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> Ramon
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Does anyone out there rember or have a copy of a style book puy oput=20
be Charlton many moons ago?  It was done by Cuti, I think, with a=20
portrait of him at his drwaign board on the cover.  It is an=20
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> Does anyone out there rember or have a copy of a style book
> puy oput 
> be Charlton many moons ago?  It was done by Cuti, I think,
> with a 
> portrait of him at his drwaign board on the cover.  It is
> an 
> invaulable resorce for script styles, etc.  I used it many
> years ago, 
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> you please 
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I Know that there are a lot of Yahoo groups, but I was thinking about somet=
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 of you would be interested in a group featureing "oddball" or obsure chara=
cters, such as Captain (split/xam) Marvel, Brother Power, the Geek, Super G=
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Let me know what you think.=A0 I may just start such a group.
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From: Peter Hassall <rowlf@paradise.net.nz>
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I would be interested in such a group. I have
always had a liking for oddball/unusual/obscure
superheroes.

My suggestion would be to have ones from any
comic group company and time period e.g. 40's to
the present day.

A few other examples (off the top of my head):
First Issue Special (DC)
Dial H For Hero
Animal Man
Metal Men (I think they were odd enough)
Dr Solar (Gold Key)
Plastic Man (DC)

Although I am sure to find more obscure ones
by having a look through my collection.

Regards,

Peter

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] New Group idea


I Know that there are a lot of Yahoo groups, but I was thinking about 
something based on an exchange I had with a member of another group. How 
many of you would be interested in a group featureing "oddball" or obsure 
characters, such as Captain (split/xam) Marvel, Brother Power, the Geek, 
Super Green Baret, Tigerboy, Jigsaw, Maike Mauser, Danger Mouse, E-Man, 
Grass Green's the Shape. And characters like Captain Sprocket, Archie's 
Super Teens, the Fab Four, Blooperman, Fatman, Herbie and one shot's such as 
Gold Key's Tiger Girl, etc. That's all I can think of right now, but there 
are many more of these types, I'm sure.

Let me know what you think. I may just start such a group.

Thanks.




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Subject: Direct to Video Movie based on Charlton Comic Book
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Coming soon to a DVD player near you...

REPTISAURUS

Based on the Charlton comic book and starring Gil Gerard.  Not much=20
information on this one so far.  Even IMDB doesn't have it listed yet.=20=20
But, it's directed by Chris Ray, son of Fred Olen Ray.  Fred could=20
alwasy make a pretty good looking direct to video feature and it looks=20
like his son is taking after him.  Special effects seem a bit uneven,=20
but the trailer looks pretty good.

I'm curious who they licensed the property from.  If they licensed it=20
at all.  Maybe the title has fallen into public domain.  Hope they have=20
some kind of nod to Charlton in the movie.

Here's a link to a site with the trailer.

http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/a-double-feature-creature-feature-
trailers


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Subject: Re: Direct to Video Movie based on Charlton Comic Book
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Looks neat and cheesy! The Charlton comic series was based on the movie "Re=
ptilicus"=20
from 1961 and Charlton even published a novelization under its Monarch Book=
s imprint.=20
The comic changed title to "Reptisaurus," and it may be that Ray considers =
this version the=20
source rather than the original, which was owned by America International P=
ictures (AIP)=20
(and stil is as far as I know). At least none of the Reptilicus comic cover=
s are included in=20
the movie's cover gallery at http://www.reptisaurus.com/the_original_comic_=
book/.

Mike Ambrose

>
> Coming soon to a DVD player near you...
>=20
> REPTISAURUS
>=20
> Based on the Charlton comic book and starring Gil Gerard.  Not much=20
> information on this one so far.  Even IMDB doesn't have it listed yet. =
=20
> But, it's directed by Chris Ray, son of Fred Olen Ray.  Fred could=20
> alwasy make a pretty good looking direct to video feature and it looks=20
> like his son is taking after him.  Special effects seem a bit uneven,=20
> but the trailer looks pretty good.
>=20
> I'm curious who they licensed the property from.  If they licensed it=20
> at all.  Maybe the title has fallen into public domain.  Hope they have=20
> some kind of nod to Charlton in the movie.
>=20
> Here's a link to a site with the trailer.
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> http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/a-double-feature-creature-feature-
> trailers
>



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Hi Mike,
=A0
I think I may've missed a post or two. But I'm curious: when will the next =
issue of Charlton Spotlight be ready for mailing?
=A0
Thanks pal,
=A0
Phil Latter
Halifax

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From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Direct to Video Movie based on Charlton Com=
ic Book
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:47 AM






Looks neat and cheesy! The Charlton comic series was based on the movie "Re=
ptilicus"=20
from 1961 and Charlton even published a novelization under its Monarch Book=
s imprint.=20
The comic changed title to "Reptisaurus, " and it may be that Ray considers=
 this version the=20
source rather than the original, which was owned by America International P=
ictures (AIP)=20
(and stil is as far as I know). At least none of the Reptilicus comic cover=
s are included in=20
the movie's cover gallery at http://www.reptisau rus.com/the_ original_ com=
ic_book/ .

Mike Ambrose

>
> Coming soon to a DVD player near you...
>=20
> REPTISAURUS
>=20
> Based on the Charlton comic book and starring Gil Gerard. Not much=20
> information on this one so far. Even IMDB doesn't have it listed yet.=20
> But, it's directed by Chris Ray, son of Fred Olen Ray. Fred could=20
> alwasy make a pretty good looking direct to video feature and it looks=20
> like his son is taking after him. Special effects seem a bit uneven,=20
> but the trailer looks pretty good.
>=20
> I'm curious who they licensed the property from. If they licensed it=20
> at all. Maybe the title has fallen into public domain. Hope they have=20
> some kind of nod to Charlton in the movie.
>=20
> Here's a link to a site with the trailer.
>=20
> http://www.dreadcen tral.com/ story/a-double- feature-creature -feature-
> trailers
>

=20














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Subject: Re: Charlton Spotlight
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Hi Phil,

Stacks of Charlton Spotlight #6, including your preordered copy, are curren=
tly being=20
packaged for shipment by the end of this week. Copies should begin appearin=
g in comics=20
shops as early as next week (depending, of course, on Diamond's reship sche=
dule). I=20
apologize to all for the lateness of this issue, but I'm sure you'll all fi=
nd it well worth the=20
wait! It's not too late--in fact, now is a perfect time--to order Spotlight=
 #6 directly from=20
me, if you didn't preorder from Previews or if your local shop doesn't carr=
y it. Cost is=20
$7.95 plus $2.00 postage ($3.00 to Canada, ask me for overseas), from the b=
elow=20
address. Check, MO and PayPal accepted. Your order will include a bonus pin=
up, not=20
available with copies in the shops.

Mike Ambrose
Argo Press
PO Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765
www.charltonspotlight.com

> Hi Mike,
> =A0
> I think I may've missed a post or two. But I'm curious: when will the nex=
t issue of=20
Charlton Spotlight be ready for mailing?
> =A0
> Thanks pal,
> =A0
> Phil Latter
> Halifax
>=20
> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Michael Ambrose <charspot01@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Direct to Video Movie based on Charlton C=
omic Book
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:47 AM
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Looks neat and cheesy! The Charlton comic series was based on the movie "=
Reptilicus"=20
> from 1961 and Charlton even published a novelization under its Monarch Bo=
oks imprint.=20
> The comic changed title to "Reptisaurus, " and it may be that Ray conside=
rs this version=20
the=20
> source rather than the original, which was owned by America International=
 Pictures (AIP)=20
> (and stil is as far as I know). At least none of the Reptilicus comic cov=
ers are included in=20
> the movie's cover gallery at http://www.reptisau rus.com/the_ original_ c=
omic_book/ .
>=20
> Mike Ambrose
>=20
> >
> > Coming soon to a DVD player near you...
> >=20
> > REPTISAURUS
> >=20
> > Based on the Charlton comic book and starring Gil Gerard. Not much=20
> > information on this one so far. Even IMDB doesn't have it listed yet.=20
> > But, it's directed by Chris Ray, son of Fred Olen Ray. Fred could=20
> > alwasy make a pretty good looking direct to video feature and it looks=
=20
> > like his son is taking after him. Special effects seem a bit uneven,=20
> > but the trailer looks pretty good.
> >=20
> > I'm curious who they licensed the property from. If they licensed it=20
> > at all. Maybe the title has fallen into public domain. Hope they have=20
> > some kind of nod to Charlton in the movie.
> >=20
> > Here's a link to a site with the trailer.
> >=20
> > http://www.dreadcen tral.com/ story/a-double- feature-creature -feature=
-
> > trailers
> >
>=20
>=20=20
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, randyh_17404 <no_reply@...>=20
wrote:
>
> Coming soon to a DVD player near you...
>=20
> REPTISAURUS
>=20
> Based on the Charlton comic book and starring Gil Gerard.  Not much=20
> information on this one so far.  Even IMDB doesn't have it listed=20
yet.=20=20
> But, it's directed by Chris Ray, son of Fred Olen Ray.  Fred could=20
> alwasy make a pretty good looking direct to video feature and it=20
looks=20
> like his son is taking after him.  Special effects seem a bit uneven,=20
> but the trailer looks pretty good.
>=20

You sure its based on the Charlton Comic Book, and not yet another=20
cheesy sf movie that someone slapped a title on?

The Charlton Comic "Reptisaurus" actually started as Reptilicus, based=20
on a 1961 movie, a joint Danish-American movie (the comic night=20
watchman is played by a popular Danish comedica actor, Dirch Passer,=20
and this movie was put on DVD because of that).

I assume that since Charlton's Monarch Books did tie-in novels for this=20
movie, along with Konga and Gorgo, that Charlton had the rights to do=20
comic book tie-ins as well.  Reptilicus wasn't as successful as Konga=20
or Gorgo, and after about 3 or 4 issues, was retitles as "Reptilsaurus".


Michael Brown



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Michael,
Reptilicus was put on DVD because of the night watchmen character?  Isn't that like buying Konga because you like Venus Flytraps?
Darci



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You sure its based on the Charlton Comic Book, and not yet another 
cheesy sf movie that someone slapped a title on?

The Charlton Comic "Reptisaurus" actually started as Reptilicus, based 
on a 1961 movie, a joint Danish-American movie (the comic night 
watchman is played by a popular Danish comedic actor, Dirch Passer, 
and this movie was put on DVD because of that).

I assume that since Charlton's Monarch Books did tie-in novels for this 
movie, along with Konga and Gorgo, that Charlton had the rights to do 
comic book tie-ins as well.  Reptilicus wasn't as successful as Konga 
or Gorgo, and after about 3 or 4 issues, was retitled as "Reptisaurus" .

Michael Brown

    


      

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
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> Michael,
> Reptilicus was put on DVD because of the night watchmen character?=20=20
Isn't that like buying Konga because you like Venus Flytraps?
> Darci
>=20

Maybe.=20=20

But like I said, the actor, Dirch Passer is massively popular in=20
Denmark.  That movie was released as part of the "Dirch Passer Library".

Michael Brown


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Did the 1968 series "Space Adventures" begin with issue #2? Was the one-
shot "Outer Space" the real #1 for that series?

Curious as can be. :)

Dean


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Subject: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
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Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on=20
our beloved comics company.=20

Here's the link:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/in_celebration_.html


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Nice little article, although of course Charlton put out a lot of good comi=
cs, too.=A0 It was that they did it by accident, not on purpose.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on=20
our beloved comics company.=20

Here's the link:

http://blog. wfmu.org/ freeform/ 2007/04/in_ celebration_ .html

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Good question. "Space Adventures: U.F.O." is listed variously identified as (a) a one-shot (b) the final issue of the 60-issue first volume of Space Adventures & (c) the first issue of the '68 series. All of those seem sort of mutually exclusive to me, which certainly made setting up an adequately restrictive search on eBay awhile a bit of a challenge (as a nut for all things flying-saucer-related, I of course had to own it).

Dan

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Did the 1968 series "Space Adventures" begin with issue #2? Was the one-
shot "Outer Space" the real #1 for that series?

Curious as can be. :)

Dean


 

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Here is more info from Dread Central on these movies & the Charlton=20
Comic:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/reptisaurus-prepares-rampage

I'd like info that the movie is really based on the comic, and not just=20
assuming so due to the similiar name...


Michael Brown


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Subject: Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
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It's always easier to criticize and tear down, as this article does, than t=
o celebrate and=20
build up. I agree that a lot of the good Charlton comics were accidentally =
good, but you=20
can't ignore so many of the intentionally good books the company put out in=
 the 1970s,=20
largely due to the attention of George Wildman. After Dick Giordano, Wildma=
n was the first=20
Charlton comics editor who cared enough about the line to work to improve i=
t.=20
Unfortunately, he was also the last.

Nevertheless, the article is a pretty good general survey of the company, e=
ven if it is=20
riddled with errors--such as perpetuating the myth about the old cereal-box=
 press. That=20
was a specialty item sometimes used for printing covers and not much else. =
Charlton=20
printed almost everything on big web presses.

For a more balanced look at Charlton, may I suggest a diet of Charlton Spot=
light=20
magazine?

Mike A. ("extremely dedicated virgin currently producing a fanzine dedicate=
d to the cruddy=20
world of Charlton with incredibly detailed minutiae")

>
> Nice little article, although of course Charlton put out a lot of good co=
mics, too.=A0 It was=20
that they did it by accident, not on purpose.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:07 AM
>=20
>=20
> Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
> fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
> be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on=20
> our beloved comics company.=20
>=20
> Here's the link:
>=20
> http://blog. wfmu.org/ freeform/ 2007/04/in_ celebration_ .html
>=20



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You are correct, I should have said that the talents who worked at Charlton=
 had to work with a publisher who was indifferent to the quality of the boo=
ks, not that the good books they put out were accidents.=A0 I enjoyed a lot=
 of Charlton books, the action heroes, the horror/mystery books, the hot ro=
d books, and others.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 9:25 AM






It's always easier to criticize and tear down, as this article does, than t=
o celebrate and=20
build up. I agree that a lot of the good Charlton comics were accidentally =
good, but you=20
can't ignore so many of the intentionally good books the company put out in=
 the 1970s,=20
largely due to the attention of George Wildman. After Dick Giordano, Wildma=
n was the first=20
Charlton comics editor who cared enough about the line to work to improve i=
t.=20
Unfortunately, he was also the last.

Nevertheless, the article is a pretty good general survey of the company, e=
ven if it is=20
riddled with errors--such as perpetuating the myth about the old cereal-box=
 press. That=20
was a specialty item sometimes used for printing covers and not much else. =
Charlton=20
printed almost everything on big web presses.

For a more balanced look at Charlton, may I suggest a diet of Charlton Spot=
light=20
magazine?

Mike A. ("extremely dedicated virgin currently producing a fanzine dedicate=
d to the cruddy=20
world of Charlton with incredibly detailed minutiae")

>
> Nice little article, although of course Charlton put out a lot of good co=
mics, too.=A0 It was=20
that they did it by accident, not on purpose.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:07 AM
>=20
>=20
> Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
> fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
> be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on=20
> our beloved comics company.=20
>=20
> Here's the link:
>=20
> http://blog. wfmu.org/ freeform/ 2007/04/in_ celebration_ .html
>=20

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Thanks.

--- On Wed, 7/30/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a 
fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to 
be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on 
our beloved comics company. 

Here's the link:

http://blog. wfmu.org/ freeform/ 2007/04/in_ celebration_ .html

 














      

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I enjoyed a lot of Charlton stuff too, as well as their action heroes.=A0 W=
hat I also liked about Charlton is that it was a good "starter" company.=A0=
 John Buscema and others did stuff for them before the became "names".=A0 T=
hey were open to giving unknows a shot.=A0 I once sent them a=A0porposal fo=
r a couple of Judo Master stories wherein I updated him to the=A0present (t=
hen present) and introduced his son who was to become the new Judo Master.=
=A0=A0They wrote me back and told me that they would do the stories if I fo=
und an artist to illustrate them, as they did not have a stable of artists.=
=A0 I began working something out with a=A0friend of mine, but alas, it was=
 too late.=A0 It was at the end of the company's run.=A0 Charlton folded be=
fore we could even complete our project..=A0
=A0

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:33 AM






You are correct, I should have said that the talents who worked at Charlton=
 had to work with a publisher who was indifferent to the quality of the boo=
ks, not that the good books they put out were accidents.=A0 I enjoyed a lot=
 of Charlton books, the action heroes, the horror/mystery books, the hot ro=
d books, and others.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin. rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin. rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 9:25 AM

It's always easier to criticize and tear down, as this article does, than t=
o celebrate and=20
build up. I agree that a lot of the good Charlton comics were accidentally =
good, but you=20
can't ignore so many of the intentionally good books the company put out in=
 the 1970s,=20
largely due to the attention of George Wildman. After Dick Giordano, Wildma=
n was the first=20
Charlton comics editor who cared enough about the line to work to improve i=
t.=20
Unfortunately, he was also the last.

Nevertheless, the article is a pretty good general survey of the company, e=
ven if it is=20
riddled with errors--such as perpetuating the myth about the old cereal-box=
 press. That=20
was a specialty item sometimes used for printing covers and not much else. =
Charlton=20
printed almost everything on big web presses.

For a more balanced look at Charlton, may I suggest a diet of Charlton Spot=
light=20
magazine?

Mike A. ("extremely dedicated virgin currently producing a fanzine dedicate=
d to the cruddy=20
world of Charlton with incredibly detailed minutiae")

>
> Nice little article, although of course Charlton put out a lot of good co=
mics, too.=A0 It was=20
that they did it by accident, not on purpose.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:07 AM
>=20
>=20
> Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
> fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
> be pretty mean in several places. It's certainly a different take on=20
> our beloved comics company.=20
>=20
> Here's the link:
>=20
> http://blog. wfmu.org/ freeform/ 2007/04/in_ celebration_ .html
>=20

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Thanks a bunch. This is very useful. :)

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, dpbailey@... wrote:
>
> Good question. "Space Adventures: U.F.O." is listed variously=20
identified as (a) a one-shot (b) the final issue of the 60-issue=20
first volume of Space Adventures & (c) the first issue of the '68=20
series. All of those seem sort of mutually exclusive to me, which=20
certainly made setting up an adequately restrictive search on eBay=20
awhile a bit of a challenge (as a nut for all things flying-saucer-
related, I of course had to own it).
>=20
> Dan
>=20
> -------------- Original message from "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...>: --
------------=20
>=20
> Did the 1968 series "Space Adventures" begin with issue #2? Was the=20
one-
> shot "Outer Space" the real #1 for that series?
>=20
> Curious as can be. :)
>=20
> Dean
>=20
>=20
>=20=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > Reptilicus was put on DVD because of the night watchmen character?=20=20
> Isn't that like buying Konga because you like Venus Flytraps?
> > Darci
> >=20
>=20
> Maybe.=20=20
>=20
> But like I said, the actor, Dirch Passer is massively popular in=20
> Denmark.  That movie was released as part of the "Dirch Passer=20
Library".
>=20

Here's a couple of interesting points about the movie that may make=20
this clearer (from wikipedia):

* The original version, with the actors speaking Danish, had many more=20
scenes including a romance between Svend and Karen, a comical musical=20
number by Petersen (Dirch Passer), and the original Reptilicus flight=20
scene.=20

* This movie featured the popular Danish comedian Dirch Passer, who=20
played the comical night watchman Petersen. At one point, Saga Studios=20
considered naming the film "Dirch and the Dragon".=20


MB


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Michael,
Wow, here I've watched that film numerous times and never knew I was watching a star of Danish cinema!  Perhaps those missing scenes make a big difference?  I hope they're on the DVD.
Thanks,
Darci



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Here's a couple of interesting points about the movie that may make 
this clearer (from wikipedia):

* The original version, with the actors speaking Danish, had many more 
scenes including a romance between Svend and Karen, a comical musical 
number by Petersen (Dirch Passer), and the original Reptilicus flight 
scene. 

* This movie featured the popular Danish comedian Dirch Passer, who 
played the comical night watchman Petersen. At one point, Saga Studios 
considered naming the film "Dirch and the Dragon". 

MB

>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Darci <darci386@> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > Reptilicus was put on DVD because of the night watchmen character? 
> Isn't that like buying Konga because you like Venus Flytraps?
> > Darci
    


      

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Well, waitaminute. Wouldn't the issue's publication date answer that questi=
on???
=A0
Phil Latter

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Space Adventures Question?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:02 AM






Thanks a bunch. This is very useful. :)

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, dpbailey@... wrote:
>
> Good question. "Space Adventures: U.F.O." is listed variously=20
identified as (a) a one-shot (b) the final issue of the 60-issue=20
first volume of Space Adventures & (c) the first issue of the '68=20
series. All of those seem sort of mutually exclusive to me, which=20
certainly made setting up an adequately restrictive search on eBay=20
awhile a bit of a challenge (as a nut for all things flying-saucer-
related, I of course had to own it).
>=20
> Dan
>=20
> ------------ -- Original message from "ripjagger" <ripjagger@. ..>: --
------------=20
>=20
> Did the 1968 series "Space Adventures" begin with issue #2? Was the=20
one-
> shot "Outer Space" the real #1 for that series?
>=20
> Curious as can be. :)
>=20
> Dean
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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That's too bad. Judomaster is my favourite of ALL of those Charlton action =
heroes! By a wide margin!
=A0
Phil Latter

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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 12:20 PM






I enjoyed a lot of Charlton stuff too, as well as their action heroes.=A0 W=
hat I also liked about Charlton is that it was a good "starter" company.=A0=
 John Buscema and others did stuff for them before the became "names".=A0 T=
hey were open to giving unknows a shot.=A0 I once sent them a=A0porposal fo=
r a couple of Judo Master stories wherein I updated him to the=A0present (t=
hen present) and introduced his son who was to become the new Judo Master.=
=A0=A0They wrote me back and told me that they would do the stories if I fo=
und an artist to illustrate them, as they did not have a stable of artists.=
=A0 I began working something out with a=A0friend of mine, but alas, it was=
 too late.=A0 It was at the end of the company's run.=A0 Charlton folded be=
fore we could even complete our project..=A0
=A0

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:33 AM

You are correct, I should have said that the talents who worked at Charlton=
 had to work with a publisher who was indifferent to the quality of the boo=
ks, not that the good books they put out were accidents.=A0 I enjoyed a lot=
 of Charlton books, the action heroes, the horror/mystery books, the hot ro=
d books, and others.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@ austin. rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 9:25 AM

It's always easier to criticize and tear down, as this article does, than t=
o celebrate and=20
build up. I agree that a lot of the good Charlton comics were accidentally =
good, but you=20
can't ignore so many of the intentionally good books the company put out in=
 the 1970s,=20
largely due to the attention of George Wildman. After Dick Giordano, Wildma=
n was the first=20
Charlton comics editor who cared enough about the line to work to improve i=
t.=20
Unfortunately, he was also the last.

Nevertheless, the article is a pretty good general survey of the company, e=
ven if it is=20
riddled with errors--such as perpetuating the myth about the old cereal-box=
 press. That=20
was a specialty item sometimes used for printing covers and not much else. =
Charlton=20
printed almost everything on big web presses.

For a more balanced look at Charlton, may I suggest a diet of Charlton Spot=
light=20
magazine?

Mike A. ("extremely dedicated virgin currently producing a fanzine dedicate=
d to the cruddy=20
world of Charlton with incredibly detailed minutiae")

>
> Nice little article, although of course Charlton put out a lot of good co=
mics, too.=A0 It was=20
that they did it by accident, not on purpose.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
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> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
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> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comics Story With A Sneer!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:07 AM
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> Here's an article about Charlton Comics written by someone who is not a=20
> fan. That's interesting in itself, though he does go out of his way to=20
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Once you know what to look for it's obvious. But I was mystified, and=20
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<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
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> Well, waitaminute. Wouldn't the issue's publication date answer=20
that question???
> =A0
> Phil Latter
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> --- On Fri, 8/1/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Space Adventures Question?
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> Received: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:02 AM
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, dpbailey@ wrote:
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> identified as (a) a one-shot (b) the final issue of the 60-issue=20
> first volume of Space Adventures & (c) the first issue of the '68=20
> series. All of those seem sort of mutually exclusive to me, which=20
> certainly made setting up an adequately restrictive search on eBay=20
> awhile a bit of a challenge (as a nut for all things flying-saucer-
> related, I of course had to own it).
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> > Dan
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> > Did the 1968 series "Space Adventures" begin with issue #2? Was=20
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> > shot "Outer Space" the real #1 for that series?
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Judomaster is my favorite too. There's a grounded realisim to the=20
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vivid than the others.

Thunderbolt is gorgeous, elegant in presentation. Peacemaker is=20
stylistically exquisite. But Judomaster has a real sense of action=20
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> That's too bad. Judomaster is my favourite of ALL of those Charlton
action heroes! By a wide margin!
> =A0
As a kid at the time I did not like Judomaster.  His ponytail made him
look like a sissy to me.  I now love Frank's great art on Judomaster
and rank it near the top.  Judomaster had by far the best covers
except for a few of Ditko's Captain Atom especially with Spectrum on them.


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I completely agree there, Dean!
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I think that perhaps you and I are in the minority in terms of those who li=
ke Judomaster as the best of the Charlton action heroes, but I don't care!
=A0
The rest are good too, but Judomaster is the best!
=A0
Regards,
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Judomaster is my favorite too. There's a grounded realisim to the=20
stories, doubtless because of the WWII setting, that makes him more=20
vivid than the others.

Thunderbolt is gorgeous, elegant in presentation. Peacemaker is=20
stylistically exquisite. But Judomaster has a real sense of action=20
which makes it feel more immediate.=20

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Hi Phil Judomaster is tied for 1st with the Blue Beetle as my favorite Charlton Action Hero. Although i like all of the Charlton Heroes.
Thank You & God Bless,  Guy E Sparkman  

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I completely agree there, Dean! I think that perhaps you and I are in the minority in terms of those who like Judomaster as the best of the Charlton action heroes, but I don't care! The rest are good too, but Judomaster is the best! Regards, Phil Latter--- On Sat, 8/2/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: JudomasterTo: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.comReceived: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:04 AMJudomaster is my favorite too. There's a grounded realisim to the stories, doubtless because of the WWII setting, that makes him more vivid than the others.Thunderbolt is gorgeous, elegant in presentation. Peacemaker is stylistically exquisite. But Judomaster has a real sense of action which makes it feel more immediate. __________________________________________________________Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now athttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 





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That reminds me, Guy.
I am off for a three day long weekend.
I'll get that western story done for you this weekend, editing it I mean.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sat, 8/2/08, guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Phil Judomaster is tied for 1st with the Blue Beetle as my favorite Char=
lton Action Hero. Although i like all of the Charlton Heroes.
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I completely agree there, Dean! I think that perhaps you and I are in the m=
inority in terms of those who like Judomaster as the best of the Charlton a=
ction heroes, but I don't care! The rest are good too, but Judomaster is th=
e best! Regards, Phil Latter--- On Sat, 8/2/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.=
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I loved Judomaster also, which might be obvious from my original post.=A0 C=
aptain Atom and Blue Beetle tied for second place.

--- On Sat, 8/2/08, guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [CharltonBullseye] Judomaster
To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 3:01 PM







Hi Phil Judomaster is tied for 1st with the Blue Beetle as my favorite Char=
lton Action Hero. Although i like all of the Charlton Heroes.
Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman=20

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comFrom: chromium_foil@ yahoo.caDate: Sa=
t, 2 Aug 2008 10:08:16 -0700Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Judomaster

I completely agree there, Dean! I think that perhaps you and I are in the m=
inority in terms of those who like Judomaster as the best of the Charlton a=
ction heroes, but I don't care! The rest are good too, but Judomaster is th=
e best! Regards, Phil Latter--- On Sat, 8/2/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.=
 com> wrote:From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>Subject: [CharltonBullsey=
e] Re: JudomasterTo: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comReceived: Saturday, =
August 2, 2008, 7:04 AMJudomaster is my favorite too. There's a grounded re=
alisim to the stories, doubtless because of the WWII setting, that makes hi=
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For those who were in the 8-12 year old age group when you first saw Judomaster did you like him as much then.  Maybe it was just me but the ponytail made him look like a sissy.  I think he was great now but that kid I was could not get over the ponytail.

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I was so impressed with the stories I didn't even notice a pony tale.=A0 Ac=
tually, I only saw one or two Judomaster stories when I was a kid.=A0 Distr=
ibution for non-DC and Non-Marvel comics was sketchy where I lived for some=
 reason.=A0 I didn't see other Judomaster stories until years later.

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Jim Ludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: Jim Ludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Judomaster
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:17 AM






For those who were in the 8-12 year old age group when you first saw Judoma=
ster did you like him as much then. Maybe it was just me but the ponytail m=
ade him look like a sissy. I think he was great now but that kid I was coul=
d not get over the ponytail.

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The new issue of Charlton Spotlight appears to be shipping to stores this w=
eek. Those=20
who preordered #6 should have received it from me sometime within the past =
two weeks. I'm=20
eager to hear what y'all think of it.

For anyone coming late to the game, Charlton Spotight #6 features full-leng=
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Actually,
I always liked his ponytail.
=A0
Japanese Bushido men have ponytails, and it is considered masculine in that=
 culture.
Respectfully, you are applying a North American upbringing (culture) on a J=
apanese culture.
And that=A0simply does not apply.
=A0
And, I think Judomaster's ponytail works well with the costume. I think it =
goes good with it. It fits and looks good with it.=20
My feelings anyway. I don't think the costume would look good without it. I=
t is part of the overall design and I think it is great.
What do you think, Dean?
=A0
There have been other comics characters, strong male characters, with ponyt=
ails, other than Judomaster and Tiger.=20
=A0
Ironman's 1960's foe, Whiplash (later Blacklash) always had a ponytail, as =
did Man Mountain in Judomaster.
=A0
As did the Marvel villain Killer Shrike. As did the Master Of Kung Fu villa=
in Zaran.
Frankly, I think ponytails look good with masks.
There were likely other examples also, that I am just not thinking of right=
 now.
=A0
There was another (male) Judomaster at DC, also with a ponytail. And the cu=
rrent female Judomaster at DC (in Birds Of Prey) has a ponytail, also, with=
 her costume.
=A0
What does everyone else think of the Charlton Judomaster ponytail?
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Jim Ludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: Jim Ludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Judomaster
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Received: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:17 AM






For those who were in the 8-12 year old age group when you first saw Judoma=
ster did you like him as much then. Maybe it was just me but the ponytail m=
ade him look like a sissy. I think he was great now but that kid I was coul=
d not get over the ponytail.

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Long hair is a sign of youthful vitality (in male characters too). Ponytail is just a handy way to carry your hair into battle.
"Better" than free or in braids (gotten hold by foe, getting into eyes)...


  Actually,
  I always liked his ponytail.
   
  Japanese Bushido men have ponytails, and it is considered masculine in that culture.
  Respectfully, you are applying a North American upbringing (culture) on a Japanese culture.
  And that simply does not apply.
   
  And, I think Judomaster's ponytail works well with the costume. I think it goes good with it. It fits and looks good with it. 
  My feelings anyway. I don't think the costume would look good without it. It is part of the overall design and I think it is great.
  What do you think, Dean?
   
  There have been other comics characters, strong male characters, with ponytails, other than Judomaster and Tiger. 
   
  Ironman's 1960's foe, Whiplash (later Blacklash) always had a ponytail, as did Man Mountain in Judomaster.
   
  As did the Marvel villain Killer Shrike. As did the Master Of Kung Fu villain Zaran.
  Frankly, I think ponytails look good with masks.
  There were likely other examples also, that I am just not thinking of right now.
   
  There was another (male) Judomaster at DC, also with a ponytail. And the current female Judomaster at DC (in Birds Of Prey) has a ponytail, also, with her costume.
   
  What does everyone else think of the Charlton Judomaster ponytail?
  Phil

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  From: Jim Ludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
  Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Judomaster
  To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
  Received: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:17 AM

  For those who were in the 8-12 year old age group when you first saw Judomaster did you like him as much then. Maybe it was just me but the ponytail made him look like a sissy. I think he was great now but that kid I was could not get over the ponytail.

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I'm looking forward to getting one today at my story. I also have an=20
order in with you for another copy. (You can't have too many copies=20
of this wonderful publication!) I look forward to seeing that soon=20
too.=20

I will offer a full report. Congratulations on another issue. These=20
are labors of love, a love I understand all too well.=20

Dean


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<charspot01@...> wrote:
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> The new issue of Charlton Spotlight appears to be shipping to=20
stores this week. Those=20
> who preordered #6 should have received it from me sometime within=20
the past two weeks. I'm=20
> eager to hear what y'all think of it.
>=20
> For anyone coming late to the game, Charlton Spotight #6 features=20
full-length, never-
> before-seen E-MAN and MAUSER stories by STATON and CUTI with a=20
Staton painted E-Man=20
> cover, along with a gallery of unpublished, rare and obscure=20
Charlton art, photos, and=20
> artifacts. See the website for details or head on down to your=20
local comics shop!
>=20
> Mike
> _____________________
> Michael Ambrose
> Charlton Spotlight
> Argo Press
> P.O. Box 4201
> Austin, TX 78765-4201
> charspot01@...
> www.charltonspotlight.com
>



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Here's something I wish I could attend. Joe Staton is probably my=20
favorite living comic book artist. His storytelling is simply the best.=20

Here's a link with more:

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I ordered both volumes of the DC Action Heroes Archives. The second=20
volume showed up just a few minutes ago, and it's absolutely gorgeous.=20
I have all of this stuff in the original save for a few pieces from=20
CPL's Charlton Bullseye, but nonetheless I love having it all in one=20
handy and handsome volume.=20

It's a pity we'll probably never see Judomaster or Peacemaker or=20
Thunderbolt get the same treatment.=20

But this is still good. :)

Dean


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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Charlton Spotlight #6 Has Arrived!
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I picked my copy up today at my local shop! It's just outstanding. A=20
brand new (ish) E-Man story, a brand new (ish) Mauser story, and lots=20
of great behind-the-scenes artwork and photos. Grand issue, I'm=20
hankering to read the stories, but just looking at them was a thrill!

Thanks for putting this together Mike. :)

I'll have more to say later when I've savored it thoroughly.=20

Dean


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Mine was waiting for me at my local shop as well (thanks Titan Comics in Dallas!).  First thing on mine to-read when I get off work (I may have to pull out the custom E-Man figure I had made, as well :) )


--- On Wed, 8/6/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Spotlight #6 Has Arrived!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 2:15 PM
> I picked my copy up today at my local shop! It's just
> outstanding. A 
> brand new (ish) E-Man story, a brand new (ish) Mauser
> story, and lots 
> of great behind-the-scenes artwork and photos. Grand issue,
> I'm 
> hankering to read the stories, but just looking at them was
> a thrill!
> 
> Thanks for putting this together Mike. :)
> 
> I'll have more to say later when I've savored it
> thoroughly. 
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

      

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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Charlton Spotlight #6 - E-Man Spoiler-Free Review!
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Great story. I yearned to see this one in color, but it's a small=20
thing. The storytelling was typically excellent, as the plot moved=20
through timeframes and perspectives. Using the Time Traveler from the=20
old Wells' novel was a grand idea. I know that Nick Cuti has an abiding=20
affection for this story, and it was neat to see this new variation on=20
the classic theme. Joe Staton's art was typically excellent. Whatever=20
the limitations might've been to getting a coherent story from what=20
remained of the original, they were more than overcome. Thanks to=20
everyone who made this story possible. It's a real treat to get new E-
Man stories these days, and this year we get two new ones. I can hardly=20
wait for October!

For some of Nick Cuti's version of the original Time Machine check out=20
this link:

 http://colemanzone.com/Time_Machine_Project/cuti.htm


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Thanks for the feedback! I too wish I could have seen the new story in colo=
r, but that was=20
just not in the budget. (I think the Mauser story looks better in B&W.) But=
 hey, how about=20
that full-color cover by Joe? And the new E-Man one-shots coming out from D=
igital=20
Webbing, all in color, are dynamite!

Thanks also for posting the link to Nick's Time Machine illos. Those who kn=
ow Nick Cuti=20
only for his cartoony Moonchild drawings or his Weirdlings cartoons or his =
writing will be=20
pleasantly surprised at just how good an artist Nick really is. Nick can do=
 it all: editing,=20
writing, drawing, lettering, filmmaking...truly a rennaissance man.

Mike

>
> Great story. I yearned to see this one in color, but it's a small=20
> thing. The storytelling was typically excellent, as the plot moved=20
> through timeframes and perspectives. Using the Time Traveler from the=20
> old Wells' novel was a grand idea. I know that Nick Cuti has an abiding=20
> affection for this story, and it was neat to see this new variation on=20
> the classic theme. Joe Staton's art was typically excellent. Whatever=20
> the limitations might've been to getting a coherent story from what=20
> remained of the original, they were more than overcome. Thanks to=20
> everyone who made this story possible. It's a real treat to get new E-
> Man stories these days, and this year we get two new ones. I can hardly=20
> wait for October!
>=20
> For some of Nick Cuti's version of the original Time Machine check out=20
> this link:
>=20
>  http://colemanzone.com/Time_Machine_Project/cuti.htm
>



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Subject: The Reptilicus Story!
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Here's a wonderful article by Steve Bissette at his blog about that=20
most wonderful of bad monster flicks, Reptilicus! Of course Charlton=20
adapted the movie as they did Gorgo and Konga, but it was a far more=20
complicated experience. (Can you say "Reptisaurus"?) Here's are the two=20
links you need to get the=20
whole saga:

Part 1 - Reptilcus the Movie

http://srbissette.com/?p=3D1691

Part 2 - Reptilicus the Comic

http://srbissette.com/?p=3D1726


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Just got my Spotlight at my LCS today.  Diamond did come through.=20
E-Man did not suffer from not having color in my opinion.  This is
going to really seem odd to most people.  I would rather have had the
story published on its own.  WHY?  So there would be more room for the
material about Charlton in the back.  I have WAY to many comics to
read now.  I buy Spotlight for the inside scoop on Charlton.  I know I
will be in the minority, and will still buy the mag, but had to let
you know my point of view and there are probably a few others out
there with the same perspective.  Still a great and appreciated mag
with a fantastic back cover.  JIM
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I too wish I could have seen the new story
in color, but that was=20
> just not in the budget. (I think the Mauser story looks better in
B&W.) But hey, how about=20
> that full-color cover by Joe? And the new E-Man one-shots coming out
from Digital=20
> Webbing, all in color, are dynamite!
>=20



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Just picked up the new CS at my local comic shop today. Absolutely
loved it. Ordinarily I enjoy the magazine for its interviews and
checklists (being a nut about all things Charlton in my day), but this
issue really reminded me of those glorious days of CPL and the five
issues of Charlton bullseye. TWO unpublished stories by Cuti and
Staton? OMG!!

I don't know if I would like every issue to have unpublished stories
(as I said I like reading about the company and its staff) but the
occasional one REALLY does take me back to the 70s. Especially when
it's E-Man and I can remember buying the Big Ten at a local drugstore.

For E-Man and Bullseye fans, the latest issue should NOT be missed!

Dennis


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The ghost host of Ghostly Tales is L. Dedd. He's one of my favorite=20
ghost hosts, one of the snarkiest. But I've wondered for a while what=20
the "L" stands for. Is it supposed to "Long Dedd" perhaps?

Dean :)


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I thought he was I.M. Dedd.

steven rowe

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> The ghost host of Ghostly Tales is L. Dedd. He's one of my favorite
> ghost hosts, one of the snarkiest. But I've wondered for a while what
> the "L" stands for. Is it supposed to "Long Dedd" perhaps?
>
> Dean :)
>
> 

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Oops! An error on my part. Yes it seems he is called I.M. Dedd which=20
makes total sense. Thanks for the correction. I have no idea when I=20
came up with L.Dedd.=20

Dean :)




--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "s r" <sangorshop@...> wrote:
>
> I thought he was I.M. Dedd.
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> steven rowe
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> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:54 AM, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
> > The ghost host of Ghostly Tales is L. Dedd. He's one of my favorite
> > ghost hosts, one of the snarkiest. But I've wondered for a while=20
what
> > the "L" stands for. Is it supposed to "Long Dedd" perhaps?
> >
> > Dean :)
> >
> >
>



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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The Bullseye!
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I gasped when I saw it.=20

Yesterday at my local store, I was prowling magazine back issues and=20
lo and behold found CPL's Charlton Bullseye #5, the issue featuring=20
Alex Toth's excellent Question story. This comes only a week or so=20
after I'd already gotten that story in the Action Heroes Arcives=20
Volume 2. But that's fine with me; I read the story years ago online,=20
but it's very cool to own it, even to own it twice.=20

I also got the second half of an unpublished (then anyway) Doomsday=20
+1 story (it's in Doomsday Squad #7). Very very cool. There's some=20
Newton Phantom artwork in this fanzine I don't have any memory of=20
seeing before.=20

Now I have only one more of these to track down, issue #2. I have the=20
Captain Atom story from that issue, but not the other cool stuff=20
these CPL Gang fanzines are so rich with.=20

Dean :)





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Congrats, Dean!
=A0
I completed my five issue run of the mag sized fanzine Charlton Bullseye in=
 high grade on ebay, several years ago.=20
=A0
But I'm glad you found # 5, possibly the best issue of all-!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The Bullseye!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:59 AM






I gasped when I saw it.=20

Yesterday at my local store, I was prowling magazine back issues and=20
lo and behold found CPL's Charlton Bullseye #5, the issue featuring=20
Alex Toth's excellent Question story. This comes only a week or so=20
after I'd already gotten that story in the Action Heroes Arcives=20
Volume 2. But that's fine with me; I read the story years ago online,=20
but it's very cool to own it, even to own it twice.=20

I also got the second half of an unpublished (then anyway) Doomsday=20
+1 story (it's in Doomsday Squad #7). Very very cool. There's some=20
Newton Phantom artwork in this fanzine I don't have any memory of=20
seeing before.=20

Now I have only one more of these to track down, issue #2. I have the=20
Captain Atom story from that issue, but not the other cool stuff=20
these CPL Gang fanzines are so rich with.=20

Dean :)

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Subject: Re: Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The Bullseye!
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It is handsome! I'm lucky to find one. I've rarely used the internet=20
to gather back issues, depending instead on the resources around me=20
locally, so finding these gems is a rare thing indeed. To get CB #2=20
though, I might relent and use Al Gore's little invention. :)

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
>
> Congrats, Dean!
> =A0
> I completed my five issue run of the mag sized fanzine Charlton=20
Bullseye in high grade on ebay, several years ago.=20
> =A0
> But I'm glad you found # 5, possibly the best issue of all-!
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The=20
Bullseye!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:59 AM
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I gasped when I saw it.=20
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> Yesterday at my local store, I was prowling magazine back issues=20
and=20
> lo and behold found CPL's Charlton Bullseye #5, the issue featuring=20
> Alex Toth's excellent Question story. This comes only a week or so=20
> after I'd already gotten that story in the Action Heroes Arcives=20
> Volume 2. But that's fine with me; I read the story years ago=20
online,=20
> but it's very cool to own it, even to own it twice.=20
>=20
> I also got the second half of an unpublished (then anyway) Doomsday=20
> +1 story (it's in Doomsday Squad #7). Very very cool. There's some=20
> Newton Phantom artwork in this fanzine I don't have any memory of=20
> seeing before.=20
>=20
> Now I have only one more of these to track down, issue #2. I have=20
the=20
> Captain Atom story from that issue, but not the other cool stuff=20
> these CPL Gang fanzines are so rich with.=20
>=20
> Dean :)
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Yep, you should do that!
=A0
# 2 is a great issue and all five are extremely difficult to come up, even =
on ebay.
They rarely turn up anywhere. You were extremely lucky to find # 5 in a sto=
re. Like a fluke.
=A0
You should definately do an ebay search and then use the option of SAVE THA=
T SEARCH when, you don't find a copy (and you won't right away), but then i=
t'll search ebay for a copy every single day for a year until a copy shows =
up on ebay, and then it'll let you know and you can bid on it.
Note: use the option of saving the search for 12 mths, not for six months.
And good luck!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The Bullseye=
!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:18 AM






It is handsome! I'm lucky to find one. I've rarely used the internet=20
to gather back issues, depending instead on the resources around me=20
locally, so finding these gems is a rare thing indeed. To get CB #2=20
though, I might relent and use Al Gore's little invention. :)

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter=20
<chromium_foil@ ...> wrote:
>
> Congrats, Dean!
> =A0
> I completed my five issue run of the mag sized fanzine Charlton=20
Bullseye in high grade on ebay, several years ago.=20
> =A0
> But I'm glad you found # 5, possibly the best issue of all-!
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The=20
Bullseye!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:59 AM
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I gasped when I saw it.=20
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> Yesterday at my local store, I was prowling magazine back issues=20
and=20
> lo and behold found CPL's Charlton Bullseye #5, the issue featuring=20
> Alex Toth's excellent Question story. This comes only a week or so=20
> after I'd already gotten that story in the Action Heroes Arcives=20
> Volume 2. But that's fine with me; I read the story years ago=20
online,=20
> but it's very cool to own it, even to own it twice.=20
>=20
> I also got the second half of an unpublished (then anyway) Doomsday=20
> +1 story (it's in Doomsday Squad #7). Very very cool. There's some=20
> Newton Phantom artwork in this fanzine I don't have any memory of=20
> seeing before.=20
>=20
> Now I have only one more of these to track down, issue #2. I have=20
the=20
> Captain Atom story from that issue, but not the other cool stuff=20
> these CPL Gang fanzines are so rich with.=20
>=20
> Dean :)
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Subject: Mystery E-Man Panel?
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On his wonderful website dedicated to all things E-Man, Rome shows a=20
panel of E-Man on a parade float drawn by Steve Ditko. Unfortunately=20
the specific book this is from is not identified. Does anyone know=20
where this panel is from?

Here's a link to the page:

http://alectronn.homestead.com/misc2.html

I also put the image in the Files section.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Dean :)


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Subject: Re: Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The Bullseye!
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Thanks for the tips. I can really use them. I've only ever done one=20
ebay auction in my life.


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> Yep, you should do that!
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> # 2 is a great issue and all five are extremely difficult to come=20
up, even on ebay.
> They rarely turn up anywhere. You were extremely lucky to find # 5=20
in a store. Like a fluke.
> =A0
> You should definately do an ebay search and then use the option of=20
SAVE THAT SEARCH when, you don't find a copy (and you won't right=20
away), but then it'll search ebay for a copy every single day for a=20
year until a copy shows up on ebay, and then it'll let you know and=20
you can bid on it.
> Note: use the option of saving the search for 12 mths, not for six=20
months.
> And good luck!
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> Phil
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> --- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The=20
Bullseye!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:18 AM
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> It is handsome! I'm lucky to find one. I've rarely used the=20
internet=20
> to gather back issues, depending instead on the resources around me=20
> locally, so finding these gems is a rare thing indeed. To get CB #2=20
> though, I might relent and use Al Gore's little invention. :)
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter=20
> <chromium_foil@ ...> wrote:
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> > Congrats, Dean!
> > =A0
> > I completed my five issue run of the mag sized fanzine Charlton=20
> Bullseye in high grade on ebay, several years ago.=20
> > =A0
> > But I'm glad you found # 5, possibly the best issue of all-!
> > =A0
> > Best,
> > =A0
> > Phil
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> > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@ ..> wrote:
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> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Bullseye #5 - Hitting The=20
> Bullseye!
> > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:59 AM
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> > I gasped when I saw it.=20
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> > Yesterday at my local store, I was prowling magazine back issues=20
> and=20
> > lo and behold found CPL's Charlton Bullseye #5, the issue=20
featuring=20
> > Alex Toth's excellent Question story. This comes only a week or=20
so=20
> > after I'd already gotten that story in the Action Heroes Arcives=20
> > Volume 2. But that's fine with me; I read the story years ago=20
> online,=20
> > but it's very cool to own it, even to own it twice.=20
> >=20
> > I also got the second half of an unpublished (then anyway)=20
Doomsday=20
> > +1 story (it's in Doomsday Squad #7). Very very cool. There's=20
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> > Newton Phantom artwork in this fanzine I don't have any memory of=20
> > seeing before.=20
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> > Now I have only one more of these to track down, issue #2. I have=20
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> > Captain Atom story from that issue, but not the other cool stuff=20
> > these CPL Gang fanzines are so rich with.=20
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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Mystery E-Man Panel?
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it's suposed to be GHOST MANOR (vol.2) #21

steven rowe

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:58 AM, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On his wonderful website dedicated to all things E-Man, Rome shows a
> panel of E-Man on a parade float drawn by Steve Ditko. Unfortunately
> the specific book this is from is not identified. Does anyone know
> where this panel is from?
>
> Here's a link to the page:
>
> http://alectronn.homestead.com/misc2.html
>
> I also put the image in the Files section.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Dean :)
>
> 

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Subject: Re: Ghost Manor #21!!!
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A tip of the hat sir! Thanks! I didn't know where to begin to look,=20
but with your info it was easy to confirm. Apparently  E-Man shares=20
the float with Captain Atom and Blue Beetle. This is definitely a=20
book I have to have.

Here's a link with details:

 http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=3D27889

Dean



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> it's suposed to be GHOST MANOR (vol.2) #21
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> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:58 AM, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
> > On his wonderful website dedicated to all things E-Man, Rome=20
shows a
> > panel of E-Man on a parade float drawn by Steve Ditko.=20
Unfortunately
> > the specific book this is from is not identified. Does anyone know
> > where this panel is from?
> >
> > Here's a link to the page:
> >
> > http://alectronn.homestead.com/misc2.html
> >
> > I also put the image in the Files section.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Dean :)
> >
> >
>



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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: The Mysterious Return Of Mr. L.Dedd?
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I asked a question a few days ago about wheat the "L" in Mr. L. Dedd's=20
name might mean. I was kindly corrected that the name was mostly=20
likely  I.M. Dedd, which at the time made a lot of sense. I've come=20
across multiple references to him under than name. I didn't at the time=20
remember where I came up with L.Dedd. But I found it.=20

It's in the very first issue of Ghostly Tales (issue #55, it's Charlton=20
remember) and he's called L.Dedd both on the cover and on the front=20
page (which oddly is in the back of the comic, it's Charlton remember).=20

Now the question is two-fold:

What does the L in L. Dedd stand for?

When did the change to I.M. Dedd happen?

Even more curious!

Dean :)


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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
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I just got an order from Mile High yesterday. I've been trying to=20
complete my Fightin' 5 collection for decades. As I've mentioned=20
before, I've always tried to use local vendors to fill my needs, but=20
a friend used Mile High and recommended the service. I tried it out,=20
found them very friendly and placed an order over the phone for all=20
the back issues of Fightin' 5 I needed. They had a sale on and it=20
seemed a perfect time. Along with several other goodies which I'll=20
mention in later posts, I got them.=20=20=20=20

The numbering of the title is typical Charlton, as they debut in=20
issue #28 which continues the numbering of Space War. That gets even=20
more confused because Space War starts up again in 1978 and begins=20
with another #28 before ending the short revival. Charlton fans are=20
so used to this sort of thing.=20

I picked up reading copies which is fine by me. I began reading this=20
morning finishing off the first three issues. Fightin' 5 is yet=20
another series which seems to have been sparked out of the spy craze=20
of the 60's. The stories by Joe Gill and the art by the team of Bill=20
Montes and Ernie Bache is professional if not stellar. Montes and=20
Bache look like no one else, their work giving everything an impish=20
but well polished look. The storytelling is suspect in places, but=20
overall the tales are sturdy and straightforward. The covers are by=20
Dick Giordano and are excellent examples of his sleek and dynamic=20
look.=20

The five are Frenchy the Fox, Irv "The Nerve" Haganah, Granite=20
Gallero, Hank Hennessy, and Tom-Tom. If you'll notice the letters of=20
their names in this order (the order they are introduced in the debut=20
tale) form the word "FIGHT", hence "Fightin' 5". The debut tale=20
introduces them, gets them together under the auspices of the CIA and=20
sends them off to save a kidnapped scientist. They succeed, all=20
survive, and vow to fight together again. The next story is even=20
teased in the debut's final panel showing a surprising amount of=20
forward planning for Charlton. The team go to Mexico and fight Aztecs=20
who have fallen under the sway of Soviet spies. There Hank, the=20
leader of the team despite his designation as FF #4 (for sake of the=20
FIGHT word don't you know) falls in love with a Priestess but she=20
dies (shock) and the team fends off the foreign threat which took a=20
nuclear turn in the end. The next adventure pits them against Big=20
Business, when a major U.S. industry, "Big-D", suddenly starts to=20
produce unreliable products. It seems spies have infiltrated the firm=20
and are seeking to shake consumer confidence with shoddy wares. The=20
boys infilitrate themselves and undo the plot saving the=20
corporation's reputation before lasting harm is done.=20

All in all these offer a broader range of adventure than I expected.=20
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and high-explosive hand cannons, have unlimited command of the=20
military when they need it, and wear their handsome but impractical=20
uniforms. I'm looking forward to more adventures of the Fightin' 5!=20
They've been a long time coming.


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I have been a fan of the five since their inception.  I probably have some doubles and I think I have them all.  My collection is scattered I am hopelessly unorganized.  The art has the lack of detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story.  I enjoyed reading Joe's stories.

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Subject: Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
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I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
blast reading them.

I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
who didn't go to DC.


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scattered I am hopelessly unorganized.  The art has the lack of=20
detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story.  I=20
enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
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Subject: Commander Benson's Decklog - Fightin' 5!
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I was directed to  a neat article on The Fightin' 5, a review of the=20
series byCommander Benson over at Captain Comics. He doesn't seem to=20
have the unbridled affection for Charlton that many of us share, but he=20
did seemto find a bit of fun in the missions of Hennessy and the boys.

You can find it in the LINKS section.=20

Dean



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Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi retained the rights to the character?
Thanks,
Darci



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I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
blast reading them.

I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
who didn't go to DC.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..> 
wrote:
>
> I have been a fan of the five since their inception.  I probably 
have some doubles and I think I have them all.  My collection is 
scattered I am hopelessly unorganized.  The art has the lack of 
detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story.  I 
enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

    


      

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Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

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There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very group.  No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 film "The Man Who Never Was"?  Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci



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Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
    


      

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I too have most all of the Fighting Five comics including the reprints. The=
re's only a few that I need. Anyone want to sell or trade for the ones I ne=
ed, since someone on here said he probably has duplicates?
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, s r <sangorshop@gmail.com> wrote:

From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com>
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Darcy,
=A0
Roger Broughton did and does exist. He still is living but he is a senior c=
itizen, and he is, I hear, in poor health.
=A0
He is also even more of a recluse than Steve Ditko.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM






There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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By the way, though it has nothing whatsoever to do with the 1956 WW 11 movi=
e based on true events entitled "The Man Who Never Was", I wanted to mentio=
n Darcy, since you brought it up, that, while I only saw it once, I also re=
ad the true story in the book by the same name.
=A0
I'd love to see that movie again! It was fascinating!
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:46 PM






Darcy,
=A0
Roger Broughton did and does exist. He still is living but he is a senior c=
itizen, and he is, I hear, in poor health.
=A0
He is also even more of a recluse than Steve Ditko.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM

There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
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Darcy,
To give you a little more background, my suspicion as to why Roger Broughto=
n disappeared or, to put it another way, became a recluse who does not spea=
k to people about his comics publishing past nor what legal agreements he h=
ad with Charlton, in terms of the fictional Charlton characters he "bought"=
 (note the parenthesis) --- my strong suspicion is he doesn't want anyone t=
o know what legal rights and ownerships or non-legal rights or non-ownershi=
ps --- he does or does not have.
=A0
My suspicions are that he purchased reproduction/-reprint rights to those c=
haracters only, and that he does not, in effect, legally "own" those charac=
ters. Meaning, he couldn't legally put out NEW comics stories with those ch=
aracters.
=A0
This is what I believe.
=A0
I have no proof either way, yet it strikes me as interesting (it should str=
ike you all as interesting as well), to hear that Roger Broughton's various=
 comics imprint company names have, over the years in Canada, published rep=
rints of numerous Charlton and ACG old comics stories AS WELL AS some new c=
omics with new stories. However, not one single NEW comics stories about ei=
ther Charlton nor ACG characters.
=A0
Interesting, yes?
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM






There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Phil,
That parallels what I've heard too.  Supposedly Roger Broughton bought envelopes of artwork from Charlton when it dissolved.  He might have thought he bought the rights to them too, but that's not how it works (at least in this country).  I don't know if the same holds true for the Fawcett and ACG purchases he made?

I don't recall if I heard this when this came up previously in this group, or somewhere else?  At the time, our informant said that a publishing company answered the phone if you called the number supposedly for Roger Broughton, but the caller seldom got a call back (and, even then, could not verify that the person calling them back was Mr. Broughton).  Emails went unanswered.  It sounds like a fine way to run a business.
Thanks,
Darci



----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:15:23 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter


Darci,
To give you a little more background, my suspicion as to why Roger Broughton disappeared or, to put it another way, became a recluse who does not speak to people about his comics publishing past nor what legal agreements he had with Charlton, in terms of the fictional Charlton characters he "bought" (note the parenthesis) --- my strong suspicion is he doesn't want anyone to know what legal rights and ownerships or non-legal rights or non-ownerships --- he does or does not have.
 
My suspicions are that he purchased reproduction/ -reprint rights to those characters only, and that he does not, in effect, legally "own" those characters. Meaning, he couldn't legally put out NEW comics stories with those characters.
 
This is what I believe.
 
I have no proof either way, yet it strikes me as interesting (it should strike you all as interesting as well), to hear that Roger Broughton's various comics imprint company names have, over the years in Canada, published reprints of numerous Charlton and ACG old comics stories AS WELL AS some new comics with new stories. However, not one single NEW comics stories about either Charlton nor ACG characters.
 
Interesting, yes?
 
Best Wishes,
 
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM

There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 film "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
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Darcy,
=A0
Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ =
a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. =
It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golde=
n age superheroes!
=A0
Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKE=
T COMICS # 1 through # 12, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET C=
OMICS # 11.
=A0
And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!
=A0
Is that cool or what?
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 6:30 PM






Phil,
That parallels what I've heard too. Supposedly Roger Broughton bought envel=
opes of artwork from Charlton when it dissolved. He might have thought he b=
ought the rights to them too, but that's not how it works (at least in this=
 country). I don't know if the same holds true for the Fawcett and ACG purc=
hases he made?

I don't recall if I heard this when this came up previously in this group, =
or somewhere else? At the time, our informant said that a publishing compan=
y answered the phone if you called the number supposedly for Roger Broughto=
n, but the caller seldom got a call back (and, even then, could not verify =
that the person calling them back was Mr. Broughton). Emails went unanswere=
d. It sounds like a fine way to run a business.
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:15:23 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter

Darci,
To give you a little more background, my suspicion as to why Roger Broughto=
n disappeared or, to put it another way, became a recluse who does not spea=
k to people about his comics publishing past nor what legal agreements he h=
ad with Charlton, in terms of the fictional Charlton characters he "bought"=
 (note the parenthesis) --- my strong suspicion is he doesn't want anyone t=
o know what legal rights and ownerships or non-legal rights or non-ownershi=
ps --- he does or does not have.

My suspicions are that he purchased reproduction/ -reprint rights to those =
characters only, and that he does not, in effect, legally "own" those chara=
cters. Meaning, he couldn't legally put out NEW comics stories with those c=
haracters.

This is what I believe.

I have no proof either way, yet it strikes me as interesting (it should str=
ike you all as interesting as well), to hear that Roger Broughton's various=
 comics imprint company names have, over the years in Canada, published rep=
rints of numerous Charlton and ACG old comics stories AS WELL AS some new c=
omics with new stories. However, not one single NEW comics stories about ei=
ther Charlton nor ACG characters.

Interesting, yes?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM

There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Oops, sorry, a typo.
=A0
What I was trying to say was that Jack In The Box # 11 continues the number=
ing from Yellowjacket Comics # 1 through # 10.
There, that makes more sense.
=A0
More,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, charlton-1@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:20 PM






Darcy,
=A0
Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ =
a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. =
It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golde=
n age superheroes!
=A0
Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKE=
T COMICS # 1 through # 12, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET C=
OMICS # 11.
=A0
And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!
=A0
Is that cool or what?
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 6:30 PM

Phil,
That parallels what I've heard too. Supposedly Roger Broughton bought envel=
opes of artwork from Charlton when it dissolved. He might have thought he b=
ought the rights to them too, but that's not how it works (at least in this=
 country). I don't know if the same holds true for the Fawcett and ACG purc=
hases he made?

I don't recall if I heard this when this came up previously in this group, =
or somewhere else? At the time, our informant said that a publishing compan=
y answered the phone if you called the number supposedly for Roger Broughto=
n, but the caller seldom got a call back (and, even then, could not verify =
that the person calling them back was Mr. Broughton). Emails went unanswere=
d. It sounds like a fine way to run a business.
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:15:23 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter

Darci,
To give you a little more background, my suspicion as to why Roger Broughto=
n disappeared or, to put it another way, became a recluse who does not spea=
k to people about his comics publishing past nor what legal agreements he h=
ad with Charlton, in terms of the fictional Charlton characters he "bought"=
 (note the parenthesis) --- my strong suspicion is he doesn't want anyone t=
o know what legal rights and ownerships or non-legal rights or non-ownershi=
ps --- he does or does not have.

My suspicions are that he purchased reproduction/ -reprint rights to those =
characters only, and that he does not, in effect, legally "own" those chara=
cters. Meaning, he couldn't legally put out NEW comics stories with those c=
haracters.

This is what I believe.

I have no proof either way, yet it strikes me as interesting (it should str=
ike you all as interesting as well), to hear that Roger Broughton's various=
 comics imprint company names have, over the years in Canada, published rep=
rints of numerous Charlton and ACG old comics stories AS WELL AS some new c=
omics with new stories. However, not one single NEW comics stories about ei=
ther Charlton nor ACG characters.

Interesting, yes?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM

There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
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Phil,
Congratulations.  Too bad it's been slabbed.  If you check out the entry for this issue at the GCD, either Jim Ludwig or Ramon Schenk wrote about the Yellowjacket story "The Submarine That Vanished":           Very out of place but the reason I bought the book.
Thanks,
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:                             Darci,
  
 Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golden age superheroes!
  
 Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKET COMICS # 1 through # 10, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET COMICS # 11.
  
 And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!
  
 Is that cool or what?
  
 Best Wishes,
  
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Interesting. So you have Jack In The Box # 11 also? I didn't know which YJ =
story was in it, since mine is slabbed. Is his costume in it the same as in=
 Yellowjacket Comics # 1 through # 10?
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:26 PM






Phil,
Congratulations. Too bad it's been slabbed. If you check out the entry for =
this issue at the GCD, either Jim Ludwig or Ramon Schenk wrote about the Ye=
llowjacket story "The Submarine That Vanished": Very out of place but the r=
eason I bought the book.
Thanks,
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote: Darci,

Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ =
a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. =
It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golde=
n age superheroes!

Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKE=
T COMICS # 1 through # 10, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET C=
OMICS # 11.

And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!

Is that cool or what?

Best Wishes,

Phil


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Phil,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.  I guess I should have put quotation marks around their comment.  Either Jim or Ramon (or perhaps both) have #11.  I don't.
Darci


Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:                             Interesting. So you have Jack In The Box # 11 also? I didn't know which YJ story was in it, since mine is slabbed. Is his costume in it the same as in Yellowjacket Comics # 1 through # 10?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Phil
 
 --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
 From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
 Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
 To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
 Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:26 PM
 
 Phil,
 Congratulations. Too bad it's been slabbed. If you check out the entry for this issue at the GCD, either Jim Ludwig or Ramon Schenk wrote about the Yellowjacket story "The Submarine That Vanished": Very out of place but the reason I bought the book.
 Thanks,
 Darci
 
 Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote: Darci,
 
 Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golden age superheroes!
 
 Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKET COMICS # 1 through # 10, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET COMICS # 11.
 
 And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!
 
 Is that cool or what?
 
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I will be rescanning Jack in the Box 11
Boughton wrote and published some new Herbies under his Avalon imprint


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Jim,
Re:  my comments to Phil
Were you the one who got a kick out of the submarine story?
Thanks,
Darci



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I will be rescanning Jack in the Box 11
Boughton wrote and published some new Herbies under his Avalon imprint

    


      

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That's okay.
Thanks Darcy!
=A0
Phil

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
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Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:33 AM






Phil,
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I guess I should have put quotation marks a=
round their comment. Either Jim or Ramon (or perhaps both) have #11. I don'=
t.
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote: Interesting. So you have Jack =
In The Box # 11 also? I didn't know which YJ story was in it, since mine is=
 slabbed. Is his costume in it the same as in Yellowjacket Comics # 1 throu=
gh # 10?

Thanks,

Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:26 PM

Phil,
Congratulations. Too bad it's been slabbed. If you check out the entry for =
this issue at the GCD, either Jim Ludwig or Ramon Schenk wrote about the Ye=
llowjacket story "The Submarine That Vanished": Very out of place but the r=
eason I bought the book.
Thanks,
Darci

Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote: Darci,

Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ =
a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. =
It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golde=
n age superheroes!

Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKE=
T COMICS # 1 through # 10, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET C=
OMICS # 11.

And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!

Is that cool or what?

Best Wishes,

Phil

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I'll be looking forward to those scans, Jim!
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I will be rescanning Jack in the Box 11
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Pant, pant, pant, slobber, slobber, slobber!=A0 Me, too.

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Jack In The Box # 11

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I will be rescanning Jack in the Box 11

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For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is all???)
titles published by Charlton.

I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>

Jerry Young-WV


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Oddly,
I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing so?
=A0
Phil Latter

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
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For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a checklist, with=
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opens fine on my mac.

dave






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> Oddly,
> I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing  
> so?
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Wed, 8/27/08, canoes53322@mypacks.net  
> <canoes53322@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> From: canoes53322@mypacks.net <canoes53322@mypacks.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
>
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a  
> checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is  
> all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>
> Jerry Young-WV
>
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Can anyone send me this as a file? I've been collecting comics including Ch=
arlton's for over 40 years and likely I can ADD to this list.
=A0
Just this week, I received in the mail a CGC encapsulated 7.5 Jack In The B=
ox # 11 from 1946, which was just about one of the earliest Charlton's. (It=
 also has a golden age Yellowjacket superhero story in it-!)
=A0
I cannot open PDFs but I can open any other type of file. Can anyone help?
=A0
Also, does that Charlton list include those sex humour type comics for adul=
ts? I have many in my own collection. They are comics but they are not in t=
he O.P.G.
=A0
Marvel, under the company heading 'Magazine Management', published some of =
these also. Same address as Marvel Comics, etc. And many Marvel artists did=
 work on these.
Anyone else on this list collect these, either by Charlton and/-or Magazine=
 Management/-Marvel?)
=A0
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a wealth of historical data posts/-history.....anyone know-?
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter
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--- On Sat, 8/30/08, dave reeder <dave@cpidubai.com> wrote:

From: dave reeder <dave@cpidubai.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:54 PM






opens fine on my mac.

dave

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> Oddly,
> I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing=20
> so?
>
> Phil Latter
>
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> <canoes53322@ mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> From: canoes53322@ mypacks.net <canoes53322@ mypacks.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
>
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a=20
> checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is=20
> all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>
> Jerry Young-WV
>
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How are things in Dubai, Dave?
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Best,
=A0
Phil

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:54 PM






opens fine on my mac.

dave

On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Phil Latter wrote:

> Oddly,
> I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing=20
> so?
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Wed, 8/27/08, canoes53322@ mypacks.net=20
> <canoes53322@ mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> From: canoes53322@ mypacks.net <canoes53322@ mypacks.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
>
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a=20
> checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is=20
> all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>
> Jerry Young-WV
>
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summer is passing - finally! now temperatures in the low 40s rather  
than low 50s centigrade.

busy with new magazines and the potential sale of the company. boss  
and i are looking at a two-year exit plan and then  i have to decide  
where to end up.

i'm torn between paris and london, south-west france or west of  
england, northern california or northern new england. problem with  
planning is that you have to factor in the effect of global warming -  
if south of france ends up like dubai then that's a nightmare  
scenario...

mostly looking forward to - at last - being reunited with my collection!

dave







On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Phil Latter wrote:

> How are things in Dubai, Dave?
>
> Best,
>
> Phil
>
> --- On Sat, 8/30/08, dave reeder <dave@cpidubai.com> wrote:
>
> From: dave reeder <dave@cpidubai.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:54 PM
>
> opens fine on my mac.
>
> dave
>
> On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Phil Latter wrote:
>
> > Oddly,
> > I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing
> > so?
> >
> > Phil Latter
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/27/08, canoes53322@ mypacks.net
> > <canoes53322@ mypacks.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: canoes53322@ mypacks.net <canoes53322@ mypacks.net>
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
> > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
> >
> > For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a
> > checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is
> > all???)
> > titles published by Charlton.
> >
> > I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
> >
> > Jerry Young-WV
> >
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Phil, I'd think that you should be able to google adobe reader and download=
 it for free, then open any pdf files you might have.=A0 Try it.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 1:06 PM






Can anyone send me this as a file? I've been collecting comics including Ch=
arlton's for over 40 years and likely I can ADD to this list.
=A0
Just this week, I received in the mail a CGC encapsulated 7.5 Jack In The B=
ox # 11 from 1946, which was just about one of the earliest Charlton's. (It=
 also has a golden age Yellowjacket superhero story in it-!)
=A0
I cannot open PDFs but I can open any other type of file. Can anyone help?
=A0
Also, does that Charlton list include those sex humour type comics for adul=
ts? I have many in my own collection. They are comics but they are not in t=
he O.P.G.
=A0
Marvel, under the company heading 'Magazine Management', published some of =
these also. Same address as Marvel Comics, etc. And many Marvel artists did=
 work on these.
Anyone else on this list collect these, either by Charlton and/-or Magazine=
 Management/- Marvel?)
=A0
Finally, another question. I haven't seen a post from the group charlton-1@=
yahoogro ups.com in a long, long time? Is this group defunct? Any posts I s=
end to that group, I don't end up getting a copy of that post back to my em=
ail box, so I am assuming that group no longer exists? That'd be a shame if=
 so, because over time, that group was MUCH more active than this one, with=
 a wealth of historical data posts/-history. ....anyone know-?
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, dave reeder <dave@cpidubai. com> wrote:

From: dave reeder <dave@cpidubai. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:54 PM

opens fine on my mac.

dave

On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Phil Latter wrote:

> Oddly,
> I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing=20
> so?
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Wed, 8/27/08, canoes53322@ mypacks.net=20
> <canoes53322@ mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> From: canoes53322@ mypacks.net <canoes53322@ mypacks.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
>
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a=20
> checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is=20
> all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>
> Jerry Young-WV
>
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Allen is right, Phil. Just search on
"adobe acrobat" "free download" at Google.

After you have installed it you can open and
read any .pdf type files. NB: You cannot
alter or update them (or create new ones)
without buying the full version as this is just
a free reader.

But you can always email your suggested
additions to the group for Jerry to update
his original .pdf document.

Regards,

Peter

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allen Smith" <metron12001@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list


Phil, I'd think that you should be able to google adobe reader and download 
it for free, then open any pdf files you might have. Try it.

Allen Smith

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 1:06 PM






Can anyone send me this as a file? I've been collecting comics including 
Charlton's for over 40 years and likely I can ADD to this list.

Just this week, I received in the mail a CGC encapsulated 7.5 Jack In The 
Box # 11 from 1946, which was just about one of the earliest Charlton's. (It 
also has a golden age Yellowjacket superhero story in it-!)

I cannot open PDFs but I can open any other type of file. Can anyone help?

Also, does that Charlton list include those sex humour type comics for 
adults? I have many in my own collection. They are comics but they are not 
in the O.P.G.

Marvel, under the company heading 'Magazine Management', published some of 
these also. Same address as Marvel Comics, etc. And many Marvel artists did 
work on these.
Anyone else on this list collect these, either by Charlton and/-or Magazine 
Management/- Marvel?)

Finally, another question. I haven't seen a post from the group 
charlton-1@yahoogro ups.com in a long, long time? Is this group defunct? Any 
posts I send to that group, I don't end up getting a copy of that post back 
to my email box, so I am assuming that group no longer exists? That'd be a 
shame if so, because over time, that group was MUCH more active than this 
one, with a wealth of historical data posts/-history. ....anyone know-?

Thanks,

Phil Latter
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, dave reeder <dave@cpidubai. com> wrote:

From: dave reeder <dave@cpidubai. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:54 PM

opens fine on my mac.

dave

On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Phil Latter wrote:

> Oddly,
> I was not able to open this file. Anyone else having problems doing
> so?
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Wed, 8/27/08, canoes53322@ mypacks.net
> <canoes53322@ mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> From: canoes53322@ mypacks.net <canoes53322@ mypacks.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Checklist
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:25 AM
>
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a
> checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is
> all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>
> Jerry Young-WV
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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Having actually now save dit from the site I see the file is actually=20
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you would need Microsoft Excel to open it, I think.

Regards,

Peter


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--- Peter Hassall <rowlf@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> Having actually now save dit from the site I see the file is
> actually an .xls one not a .pdf one. That means it is an Excel
> spreadsheet, so you would need Microsoft Excel to open it, I
think.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 

If it is an Excel file then Open Office can open it, make
changes and re-save it. (Unless there are VisualBasic macros
involved.) Open office is a completely free office suite.

http://www.openoffice.org

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Small files available here.  Large files will soon be up on
http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/


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Phil,
The site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l/ lists 3 new
messages in the last 7 days.  It seems to still be active.
Hope this helps,
Darci


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter
<chromium_foil@...> wrote:
>=20=20
> Finally, another question. I haven't seen a post from the group
charlton-1@yahoogroups.com in a long, long time? Is this group
defunct? Any posts I send to that group, I don't end up getting a copy
of that post back to my email box, so I am assuming that group no
longer exists? That'd be a shame if so, because over time, that group
was MUCH more active than this one, with a wealth of historical data
posts/-history.....anyone know-?
>=20=20
> Thanks,
>=20=20
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada


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What Format is desired and I will re-post.

Jerry Young-WV
-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 30, 2008 6:19 PM
>To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Additions for the Charlton list (more)
>
>--- Peter Hassall <rowlf@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> Having actually now save dit from the site I see the file is
>> actually an .xls one not a .pdf one. That means it is an Excel
>> spreadsheet, so you would need Microsoft Excel to open it, I
>think.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>
>If it is an Excel file then Open Office can open it, make
>changes and re-save it. (Unless there are VisualBasic macros
>involved.) Open office is a completely free office suite.
>
>http://www.openoffice.org
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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
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Good to see you still 'doing the rounds' in your ongoing hunt for=20
scans Jerry.

So whats the latest scoop with your 'closed group' ?

Any progress or still just you and 'you know who' ?

-Kermitt






In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, canoes53322@... wrote:
>
>=20
>=20
> For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a=20
checklist, with publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is=20
all???)
> titles published by Charlton.
>=20
> I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>
>=20
> Jerry Young-WV
>



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...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel





In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jimludwig@...> wrote:
>
> Small files available here.  Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/
>



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Thank you, Darcy!
=A0
It may have been simply a problem with my membership, which I (think) I jus=
t fixed, by going to the Home Page and reprogramming it.
=A0
Thanks for the link and ergo for the help!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, darci386 <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: darci386 <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Additions for the Charlton list
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 12:06 AM






Phil,
The site http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/charlton- l/ lists 3 new
messages in the last 7 days. It seems to still be active.
Hope this helps,
Darci

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter
<chromium_foil@ ...> wrote:
>=20
> Finally, another question. I haven't seen a post from the group
charlton-1@yahoogro ups.com in a long, long time? Is this group
defunct? Any posts I send to that group, I don't end up getting a copy
of that post back to my email box, so I am assuming that group no
longer exists? That'd be a shame if so, because over time, that group
was MUCH more active than this one, with a wealth of historical data
posts/-history. ....anyone know-?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Phil Latter
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
> Canada

=20














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Which Yellowjacket issue Nigel?

Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, phabox <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: phabox <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:48 AM






...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel

In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim" <jimludwig@. ..> wrote:
>
> Small files available here. Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecom ics.co.uk/
>

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Good Question, I ment of course=A0to say Yellowjacket Comics_010.
=A0
Anyway it should be Buzzing along this way within the next 24 hours.
=A0
-Nigel

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:36 PM

Which Yellowjacket issue Nigel?

Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:48 AM






...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel

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wrote:
>
> Small files available here. Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecom ics.co.uk/
>

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That's great Nigel!
=A0
In my own collection, I have Yellowjacket Comics # 4,5,7,8 and Jack In The =
Box # 11 which also has a Yellowjacket story.
=A0
What issues of YJ do you have? I'm just curious, as YJ is one of my favouri=
te golden age superheroes.
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:54 PM






Good Question, I ment of course=A0to say Yellowjacket Comics_010.
=A0
Anyway it should be Buzzing along this way within the next 24 hours.
=A0
-Nigel

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:36 PM

Which Yellowjacket issue Nigel?

Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, phabox <phabox@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: phabox <phabox@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:48 AM

...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel

In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim" <jimludwig@. ..>
wrote:
>
> Small files available here. Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecom ics.co.uk/
>

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Just that one issue Phil, you may recall I got it from Ebay as a 'Buy it No=
w' Thanks to a 'tip off' from Narfstar over at GAUK.

If you still want the hardcopy for your own collection I'm sure we could co=
me to an arrangment.

-Nigel



--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:59 PM

That's great Nigel!
=A0
In my own collection, I have Yellowjacket Comics # 4,5,7,8 and Jack In The =
Box
# 11 which also has a Yellowjacket story.
=A0
What issues of YJ do you have? I'm just curious, as YJ is one of my
favourite golden age superheroes.
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:54 PM






Good Question, I ment of course=A0to say Yellowjacket Comics_010.
=A0
Anyway it should be Buzzing along this way within the next 24 hours.
=A0
-Nigel

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:36 PM

Which Yellowjacket issue Nigel?

Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, phabox <phabox@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: phabox <phabox@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:48 AM

...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel

In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim" <jimludwig@. ..>
wrote:
>
> Small files available here. Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecom ics.co.uk/
>

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Nigel,
Yes, I'm trying to collect all of the Yellowjacket original 1940's comics. =
Email me privately with a cover scan, a best guess at the grade, and a pric=
e offer? I can't afford it if it's really expensive, but let's dicker and s=
ee, okay?
=A0
Oh, if anyone else has any other 1940's Charlton comics that may (?) have Y=
ellowjacket stories in them, I'd be interested in those, also!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil Latter


--- On Sun, 8/31/08, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 8:24 PM






Just that one issue Phil, you may recall I got it from Ebay as a 'Buy it No=
w' Thanks to a 'tip off' from Narfstar over at GAUK.

If you still want the hardcopy for your own collection I'm sure we could co=
me to an arrangment.

-Nigel

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:59 PM

That's great Nigel!
=A0
In my own collection, I have Yellowjacket Comics # 4,5,7,8 and Jack In The =
Box
# 11 which also has a Yellowjacket story.
=A0
What issues of YJ do you have? I'm just curious, as YJ is one of my
favourite golden age superheroes.
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:54 PM

Good Question, I ment of course=A0to say Yellowjacket Comics_010.
=A0
Anyway it should be Buzzing along this way within the next 24 hours.
=A0
-Nigel

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:36 PM

Which Yellowjacket issue Nigel?

Thanks,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, phabox <phabox@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: phabox <phabox@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yellowjacket 11
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:48 AM

...And expect to see COMPLETE c2c PAPERS scans of Yellowjacket Comics=20
any time now.

-Nigel

In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim" <jimludwig@. ..>
wrote:
>
> Small files available here. Large files will soon be up on
> http://goldenagecom ics.co.uk/
>

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I believe the only two appearances of YJ outside his own title were Jack in the Box 11 and TNT.  I put up good YJ scans at the GA site for Jack 11.  TNT scans are posted there also.  After we get #10 all that will be needed are #9 and color scans of #1

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I Believe that Phil wanted to see a cover scan of this issue to decide if i=
t was worthy of a place in his collection.
=A0
Going one better here's the COMPLETE book, slightly worn on the spine and a=
 little rough around the edges much like its present owner but still in fai=
r condition for a sixty year old =A0!

File name: Yellowjacket_Comics_010.rar:
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/pd4kkgazfrn

=A0
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Darcy,
=A0
My guess is that the character is in the Public Domain, and most certainly =
not purchased by Roger Broughton.
=A0
I'm no lawyer but that is my best guess. What makes ya ask? I'm curious.
=A0
Dynamite Entertainment, in their new current comics series Project: Superpo=
wers, is currently using many, many golden age superheroes in that new seri=
es of theirs in NEW stories, including The Black Terror, The Flame, Yellowj=
acket (though they're now calling him just Jack, likely to avoid a lawsuit =
from Marvel who also has a Johnny-come-lately Yellowjacket character alias =
Hank Pym); and numerous others.
=A0
Bill Black at AC Comics has also used many of those characters over the yea=
rs in new stories (but not Yellowjacket).
=A0
Anyway, this is why I suspect strongly that the golden age Yellowjacket is =
now in the Public Domain.
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter
=A0
PS: real interested in knowing why you're curious about this. Now me, ya pr=
obably know that ol' YJ is one of my very top favourite golden age heroes!

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Subject: [charlton-l] Golden Age Yellowjacket
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Received: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 3:39 PM






Does anyone know the status of the Yellowjacket character created for=20
Ed Levy/Frank Communale by Lloyd Jacquet's Funnies Inc, studio? Has=20
it fallen into public domain, been one of the pieces purchased by=20
Roger Broughton, or been purchased by DC?
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Subject: Captain Atom - Cold Warrior With A Warm Heart!
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I'm in the midst of reading DC Archives Action Heroes Volume 1 right=20
now. I just finished the original Captain Atom stories from the late=20
50's-early 60's. I've all of these in reprint save for a few, mostly=20
the non-Ditko stuff. So it wasn't all new, but this printing is=20
bright and vibrant and really makes the artwork leap off the page and=20
I haven't read them in a long time. The stories are largely=20
formulaic, but diverting. Captain Atom's relationship with the=20
President, first Eisenhower and then later Kennedy, is remarkable. He=20
seems to have the secret of identity of Captain Adam for no real good=20
purpose. There is one story where he's undercover, so maybe that's an=20
excuse. Mostly Captain Atom fights Commies and Aliens, and he does it=20
with gusto and he does it quick since these stories are five to ten=20
pages. There's no room here for angst, just footloose atomic punch=20
action. Captain Atom's sparkly trail is a visual delight, and I'm=20
always reminded of Starlin's use of it when he revamped Captain=20
Marvel. The way they handle Captain Atom's atomic powers is more=20
respectful of radiation that I'd remembered. They actually treat him=20
like he's potentially dangerous, though the danger is diminished=20
mightily. In these stories, he's at once an atomic rocket to the=20
stars and a mighty bomburst waiting to happen. There are a surprising=20
number of aliens in these tails, two invading hordes and the a girl=20
from Venus who's just causing trouble. There's a light-hearted tale=20
of a boy who is drawn into space to fly with space-birds in his=20
dreams by an encounter with radiation through is telescope. That's=20
such a wonky notion it works despite lacking any semblance of logic.=20
These tales are brisk and such questions hardly have time to be=20
raised before the next punch is thrown. All in all a fun treat to=20
read all of these vintage tales at last. Now onto the revival and=20
the "Action Line" proper.


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--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Allan Munroe <aemunroe@eastlink.ca> wrote:

From: Allan Munroe <aemunroe@eastlink.ca>
Subject: FW: About Area Code 809
To: "'andrea munroe'" <andrea.munroe@gmail.com>, "'barb rideout'" <brideout=
@accesswave.ca>, bkmunroe@eastlink.ca, moneybaggs@eastlink.ca, "'Margie'" <=
marmou@eastlink.ca>, "'Phil Latter'" <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>, "'Carol Latt=
er'" <carol_latter@yahoo.com>, "'Greg Redden'" <gregredden@hotmail.com>
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We actually received a call last week from the=A0=A0809=A0=A0area code. =A0=
The woman said 'Hey, this is Karen. Sorry I missed you--get back to us quic=
kly. I Have something important to tell you.' Then she repeated a phone num=
ber beginning with=A0=A0=A0809=A0. 'We didn't respond'.

Then this week, we received the following e-mail:

Subject:=A0=A0DON'T EVER=A0=A0DIAL AREA CODE=A0=A0809=A0,=A0284=A0=A0AND=A0=
876=A0

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY=A0AT&T. DON'T EVER DIA=
L AREA CODE=A0=A0809=A0

This one is being distributed all over the US . This is pretty scary, espec=
ially given the way they try to get you to call.=A0
Be sure you read this and pass it on.=A0=A0=A0
They get you to call by telling you that it is information about a family m=
ember who has been ill or to tell you someone has-been arrested, died, or t=
o let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. =A0=A0
In each case, you are told to call the=A0809=A0=A0number right away. Since =
there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return thes=
e calls.=A0

If you call from the=A0=A0=A0 US=A0, you will apparently be charged=A0$2425=
=A0per-minute.=A0

Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep=
 you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunatel=
y, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,100.=
00.

WHY IT WORKS:=A0

The=A0=A0809=A0=A0area code is located in the British=A0Virgin Islands =A0(=
The Bahamas).
The charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did =
actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and =
your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most like=
ly tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign comp=
any. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have don=
e nothing wrong.=A0

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues t=
o help them become aware of this scam.

Sandi Van Handel
AT&T=A0Field Service Manager
(920)687-904=A0=A0=A0

Additional information on these area codes can be found from ATT at:=A0
http://www.consumer.att.com/consumertips/areacode.html





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Subject: To Phone Or Not To Phone!
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Here's more info on the phone thingee:

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp


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Always check Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp

Real scam but greatly exagerated.

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Subject: The Curse of Area Code 809!
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Hey, let's not alarm anyone here. This "scam" isn't all that it's=20=20
made out to be, threat-wise.

There is no "Sandi Van Handel" who's a Field Service Manager at AT&T=20=20
and whose number is (920)687-904".

Here's some actually reliable info.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/area-code-809-scam.html

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp

Origins:   This scam is real, but four important pieces of=20=20
information to keep in mind are:
	=95	Not every phone number in the 809 area code is part of this scam,=20=20
and calling such a number will not necessarily result in exorbitantly=20=20
large charges on your phone bill. Most 809 numbers are ordinary,=20=20
legitimate phone numbers.
	=95=09
	=95	This scam has been used with other area codes besides 809.
	=95=09
	=95	The amounts of money involved have been greatly exaggerated as=20=20
this warning has circulated on the Internet over the past several years.
	=95=09
	=95	This scam is not very common; the average U.S. resident is=20=20
unlikely to ever encounter it.

The scheme preys upon U.S. and Canadian residents unfamiliar with the=20=20
complexities of the phone system (which is most of us). We expect=20=20
when we place a call to a standard area code + exchange + phone=20=20
number combination (e.g., 213-555-1212), we're calling a person or=20=20
entity located in the U.S. or Canada =97 connections outside those=20=20
countries requiring the caller to first enter a country code, then a=20=20
number generally different in format from the standard we're used to.=20=20
However, some foreign territories and countries (such as the=20=20
Dominican Republic or the British Virgin Islands) have also been=20=20
assigned area codes, and therefore their phone numbers look like the=20=20
"standard" phone numbers we're used to. Scammers use a variety of=20=20
schemes to dupe North Americans into calling these numbers by sending=20=20
messages to pagers, fax machines, e-mail addresses, or answering=20=20
machines, accompanied by notifications that the recipients need to=20=20
call or fax them back because:
=09
=95	They have won sweepstakes or lottery prizes they must call to claim.
=95	A family member is desperately ill or injured.
=95	A bill or credit card debt is past due and needs to straightened=20=20
out immediately to avoid collection action or an endangered credit=20=20
rating.
=95	They are being offered solicitations to become "mystery shoppers"=20=20
who will be well compensated for a few hours work per day. (The=20=20
"applicants" are kept on the phone through a lengthy sign-up=20=20
procedure that never results in anyone's getting a job.)
	=95=09
=95	They are being considered for employment and must transmit lengthy=20=20
forms covering quotations on proposed jobs or information about their=20=20
services and prices.
Once the victim places a call, he is connected to a fax machine,=20=20
lengthy recorded message, or a pay-per-call service with a hefty up-=20
front fee, all intended to keep him on the line as long as possible=20=20
while the clock ticks and the charges mount. The scammer's foreign=20=20
phone company then bills the victim via his local phone company,=20=20
splitting the monies collected with the scammers and leaving the=20=20
victim little or no recourse since the foreign phone company operates=20=20
outside U.S. jurisdiction and is therefore not subject to U.S. laws=20=20
(especially regulations requiring the operators of pay-per-call=20=20
services notify callers in advance how much they will be charged for=20=20
each call and offer them an opportunity to hang up without incurring=20=20
any charges).

As mentioned above, the amounts of money involved in these scams have=20=20
been greatly exaggerated (probably by computer-introduced=20=20
transcription errors) to the point that readers are now warned they=20=20
may be charged more than $2,400 per minute if they fall for this=20=20
scam! Actually, a victim might realistically be taken for $25 to=20=20
$100, but not thousands of dollars. This scheme works a variety of=20=20
Caribbean area codes, not just the 809 area code mentioned above=20=20
(which now belongs exclusively to the Dominican Republic, the British=20=20
Virgin Islands having switched to 284), but 809 seems to work=20=20
especially well because many people associate it with toll-free 800=20=20
numbers and believe they will incur no charges for calling such a=20=20
number. This scam took off when the government cracked down on=20=20
domestic 900-number abuses several years ago, but it isn't especially=20=20
common any more, and most consumer watchdog organizations report they=20=20
receive far, far more calls from people concerned about the e-mailed=20=20
warnings than from actual victims.

Alerts have been been posted at the site of the National Fraud=20=20
Information Center (NFIC) alerting businessmen especially to=20=20
"faxback" solicitations employing the "809" callback trick (such as=20=20
one sprung on a newspaper that received a call from entities=20=20
representing a purported hotel developer in the Dominican Republic=20=20
asking for advertising rate quotes and claiming that "start-up=20=20
pressures prevent us at this time from using the mails" to request=20=20
rate cards).

The Better Business Bureau strongly recommends that no matter how=20=20
consumers are approached, if they are asked to respond to an "809"=20=20
area code call, they should investigate further or simply disregard=20=20
the message. (There is, of course, nothing wrong with talking to=20=20
people who live in this area code if you happen to know them. All=20=20
cautions regarding the 809 code apply only to solicitations to=20=20
contact folks unknown to you.) If you have to call a number in an=20=20
area code that's unfamiliar to you, you can use an Area Decoder to=20=20
check it out first.

Barbara "(what a) sorry wrong number!" Mikkelson

Subject:  DON'T EVER  DIAL AREA CODE  809 , 284  AND 876
Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and=20=20
colleagues to help them become aware of this scam.



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I just finished DC Archives Action Heroes Volume 1, full of fabulous=20
50's Atomic action as well as the first several issues of the 60's=20
revival.=20

A highlight of these 60's Captain Atom issues is Doctor Spektro.=20
Spektro seems to be a grumbling showman who by accident gains power=20
over color and apparently moods. A slight variation on the Psycho=20
Pirate gimmick, but a colorful one. Cap and Spectro face off, but it=20
ends with Spectro getting blowed up good. One thing though, this=20
story would make little sense in B&W, as the color is essential to=20
follow the fight sequences.

In the sequel a few issues later, Spectro reconstitutes but only in=20
five smaller versions of himself, each master of a particular color.=20
These little Spectros hijack satellites to help cure themselves and=20
get drawn into another battle with Atom. This time though there's a=20
bit more angst as one Spectro variant seems to be a good guy, and at=20
the end of the story Atom is perplexed that his interference might've=20
forstalled the ability of Spectro to rehabilite himself. It's pretty=20
involving, and Spectro comes across as worthy enemy for Atom, a=20
difficult thing to do given the wide range of Cap's powers.=20=20

Apparently in the DCU, Spectro like all the Charlton characters is=20
someone else and as far as I'm concerned far less interesting.


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Darci,
=A0
As you may have guessed, it sounds like, those comics were the predecessors=
 of Charlton Comics. In fact, Jack In The Box # 11, which also has a Yellow=
jacket story in it, IS a Charlton comic book, one of the very earliest. It =
says so right on the cover!

Warm Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter

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Does anyone know the status of the Yellowjacket character created for=20
Ed Levy/Frank Communale by Lloyd Jacquet's Funnies Inc, studio? Has=20
it fallen into public domain, been one of the pieces purchased by=20
Roger Broughton, or been purchased by DC?
Thanks,
Darci

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Does anyone have scans of the second part of the Peacemaker's=A0 which appe=
ared in Fightin' 5 #41?=A0 I have issue 40 but not 41.=A0 For that matter, =
does any one have scans of any of the Fightin' 5 mags from 41 thru 45?=A0 I=
 have #s 40 and 46.


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Subject: Jungle Tales Of Tarzan!
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I've not made any special effort to get hold of Charlton's ill-fated=20
unlicensed Jungle Tales of Tarzan comics. Apparently Charlton=20
imagined that the rights to Tarzan (or some Tarzan stories anyway)=20
had fallen into public domain and trotted out their own Tarzan series=20
for four issues before the mighty fist of ERB came crashing down and=20
stopped the project.=20

I've had issue #2 for many years, finding it somewhere in my travels=20
and fascinated by the Sam Glanzman artwork, the best cover of the=20
series. Early this year I stumbled across a beaten up but readable=20
copy of issue #4. Yesterday plumbing back issue boxes in a store dark=20
from a power loss, I found a pretty good copy of issue #3. Now I'm=20
well within striking distance of getting the whole shebang.=20

These aren't great Tarzan tales by any imagination, but Glanzman's=20
take on the Apeman was a precursor of sorts of the vision Joe Kubert=20
would bring to the series some years later when DC landed the=20
license. It's far different from the sleek Tarzan popular at Gold=20
Key. In fact it seems according to some that Charlton is responsible=20
for getting Russ Manning his Tarzan gig. Here's the story from the=20
Tarzan of the Comics website:

"It was not Gold Key, however, that brought Tarzan into the Silver=20
Age. Charlton Comics entered the Burroughs market when they issued=20
Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1 (December 1964). Charlton's Tarzan effort,=20
edited by Pat Masulli and based on three stories, Capture of Tarzan,=20
The Fight for the Balu, and Tarzan's Way of Life, allowed to slip=20
into the public domain, shook Gold Key. In Charlton's first issue,=20
Masulli stated, "the true flavor of Tarzan as created by Mr.=20
Burroughs has rarely been tasted in comic books. We intend to change=20
that. We intend to be as true to the original as possible. We pledge=20
ourselves to a series of comics that will thrill and inspire, delight=20
and entrance as did the original masterworks."=20

"Jungle Tales of Tarzan reportedly sold well enough to justify its=20
continued existence. The creative team of Masulli, Sam Glanzman, and=20
Joe Gill, kept their pledge to the readers. However, even though the=20
stories Sam Glanzman drew and Joe Gill adapted were free of=20
copyright, Western Publishing and Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., argued=20
that Tarzan was still a trademark. Jungle Tales of Tarzan folded=20
after only four issues.=20

"Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold=20
Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two=20
stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154=20
(November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to=20
Korak."

Pretty interesting! At least I thought so.

Dean=20



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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:50 AM, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
 quoting a website:
> "Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold
> Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two
> stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154
> (November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to
> Korak."

Not sure  exactly what that website is suggesting.
 The artist on Tarzan, Jesse Marsh retired from comics due to illness
and died in April 1966.  Manning was already working on the back up
features in Tarzan, which led to him starting Korak.   He was the
natural person to take over the book.   His art is nothing like
Glanzman.  Not sure who would be stylistically similar  to Glanzman at
the west coast division of Western at the time - indeed, Marsh is
probably the closest style -wise there was.       (anybody think of
anyone closer - who was in California in 1965-1966?)

steven rowe

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You can find the Tarzan books here.
=A0
Repidshare link:=A0 http://rapidshare.com/files/105710569/tarzan.rar.html
=A0
Page link so you can see what you are getting:=A0 http://comicsworld.wordpr=
ess.com/category/tarzan/
=A0
Site link for more great comics:=A0 http://comicsworld.wordpress.com/#comme=
nt-761
=A0
If anyone out there has Son of Vulcan and Mercury Man, I would appreciate s=
cans of those.=A0 The above site doesn't have them.
=A0


--- On Wed, 9/17/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jungle Tales Of Tarzan!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:50 AM






I've not made any special effort to get hold of Charlton's ill-fated=20
unlicensed Jungle Tales of Tarzan comics. Apparently Charlton=20
imagined that the rights to Tarzan (or some Tarzan stories anyway)=20
had fallen into public domain and trotted out their own Tarzan series=20
for four issues before the mighty fist of ERB came crashing down and=20
stopped the project.=20

I've had issue #2 for many years, finding it somewhere in my travels=20
and fascinated by the Sam Glanzman artwork, the best cover of the=20
series. Early this year I stumbled across a beaten up but readable=20
copy of issue #4. Yesterday plumbing back issue boxes in a store dark=20
from a power loss, I found a pretty good copy of issue #3. Now I'm=20
well within striking distance of getting the whole shebang.=20

These aren't great Tarzan tales by any imagination, but Glanzman's=20
take on the Apeman was a precursor of sorts of the vision Joe Kubert=20
would bring to the series some years later when DC landed the=20
license. It's far different from the sleek Tarzan popular at Gold=20
Key. In fact it seems according to some that Charlton is responsible=20
for getting Russ Manning his Tarzan gig. Here's the story from the=20
Tarzan of the Comics website:

"It was not Gold Key, however, that brought Tarzan into the Silver=20
Age. Charlton Comics entered the Burroughs market when they issued=20
Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1 (December 1964). Charlton's Tarzan effort,=20
edited by Pat Masulli and based on three stories, Capture of Tarzan,=20
The Fight for the Balu, and Tarzan's Way of Life, allowed to slip=20
into the public domain, shook Gold Key. In Charlton's first issue,=20
Masulli stated, "the true flavor of Tarzan as created by Mr.=20
Burroughs has rarely been tasted in comic books. We intend to change=20
that. We intend to be as true to the original as possible. We pledge=20
ourselves to a series of comics that will thrill and inspire, delight=20
and entrance as did the original masterworks. "=20

"Jungle Tales of Tarzan reportedly sold well enough to justify its=20
continued existence. The creative team of Masulli, Sam Glanzman, and=20
Joe Gill, kept their pledge to the readers. However, even though the=20
stories Sam Glanzman drew and Joe Gill adapted were free of=20
copyright, Western Publishing and Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., argued=20
that Tarzan was still a trademark. Jungle Tales of Tarzan folded=20
after only four issues.=20

"Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold=20
Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two=20
stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154=20
(November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to=20
Korak."

Pretty interesting! At least I thought so.

Dean=20

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Some of the Charlton Hercules books.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/132982544/hercules.rar.html
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I don't know about Son of Vulcan, but the site www.isohunt.com has a ton of=
 scans.=A0 Try it.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Link to Jungle Tales Of Tarzan! comics
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 7:27 AM






You can find the Tarzan books here.
=A0
Repidshare link:=A0 http://rapidshare. com/files/ 105710569/ tarzan.rar. ht=
ml
=A0
Page link so you can see what you are getting:=A0 http://comicsworld. wordp=
ress. com/category/ tarzan/
=A0
Site link for more great comics:=A0 http://comicsworld. wordpress. com/#com=
ment- 761
=A0
If anyone out there has Son of Vulcan and Mercury Man, I would appreciate s=
cans of those.=A0 The above site doesn't have them.
=A0

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jungle Tales Of Tarzan!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:50 AM

I've not made any special effort to get hold of Charlton's ill-fated=20
unlicensed Jungle Tales of Tarzan comics. Apparently Charlton=20
imagined that the rights to Tarzan (or some Tarzan stories anyway)=20
had fallen into public domain and trotted out their own Tarzan series=20
for four issues before the mighty fist of ERB came crashing down and=20
stopped the project.=20

I've had issue #2 for many years, finding it somewhere in my travels=20
and fascinated by the Sam Glanzman artwork, the best cover of the=20
series. Early this year I stumbled across a beaten up but readable=20
copy of issue #4. Yesterday plumbing back issue boxes in a store dark=20
from a power loss, I found a pretty good copy of issue #3. Now I'm=20
well within striking distance of getting the whole shebang.=20

These aren't great Tarzan tales by any imagination, but Glanzman's=20
take on the Apeman was a precursor of sorts of the vision Joe Kubert=20
would bring to the series some years later when DC landed the=20
license. It's far different from the sleek Tarzan popular at Gold=20
Key. In fact it seems according to some that Charlton is responsible=20
for getting Russ Manning his Tarzan gig. Here's the story from the=20
Tarzan of the Comics website:

"It was not Gold Key, however, that brought Tarzan into the Silver=20
Age. Charlton Comics entered the Burroughs market when they issued=20
Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1 (December 1964). Charlton's Tarzan effort,=20
edited by Pat Masulli and based on three stories, Capture of Tarzan,=20
The Fight for the Balu, and Tarzan's Way of Life, allowed to slip=20
into the public domain, shook Gold Key. In Charlton's first issue,=20
Masulli stated, "the true flavor of Tarzan as created by Mr.=20
Burroughs has rarely been tasted in comic books. We intend to change=20
that. We intend to be as true to the original as possible. We pledge=20
ourselves to a series of comics that will thrill and inspire, delight=20
and entrance as did the original masterworks. "=20

"Jungle Tales of Tarzan reportedly sold well enough to justify its=20
continued existence. The creative team of Masulli, Sam Glanzman, and=20
Joe Gill, kept their pledge to the readers. However, even though the=20
stories Sam Glanzman drew and Joe Gill adapted were free of=20
copyright, Western Publishing and Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., argued=20
that Tarzan was still a trademark. Jungle Tales of Tarzan folded=20
after only four issues.=20

"Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold=20
Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two=20
stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154=20
(November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to=20
Korak."

Pretty interesting! At least I thought so.

Dean=20

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Thanks, I will.

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Link to Jungle Tales Of Tarzan! comics
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 7:48 AM






I don't know about Son of Vulcan, but the site www.isohunt. com has a ton o=
f scans.=A0 Try it.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Link to Jungle Tales Of Tarzan! comics
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 7:27 AM

You can find the Tarzan books here.
=A0
Repidshare link:=A0 http://rapidshare. com/files/ 105710569/ tarzan.rar. ht=
ml
=A0
Page link so you can see what you are getting:=A0 http://comicsworld. wordp=
ress. com/category/ tarzan/
=A0
Site link for more great comics:=A0 http://comicsworld. wordpress. com/#com=
ment- 761
=A0
If anyone out there has Son of Vulcan and Mercury Man, I would appreciate s=
cans of those.=A0 The above site doesn't have them.
=A0

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jungle Tales Of Tarzan!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:50 AM

I've not made any special effort to get hold of Charlton's ill-fated=20
unlicensed Jungle Tales of Tarzan comics. Apparently Charlton=20
imagined that the rights to Tarzan (or some Tarzan stories anyway)=20
had fallen into public domain and trotted out their own Tarzan series=20
for four issues before the mighty fist of ERB came crashing down and=20
stopped the project.=20

I've had issue #2 for many years, finding it somewhere in my travels=20
and fascinated by the Sam Glanzman artwork, the best cover of the=20
series. Early this year I stumbled across a beaten up but readable=20
copy of issue #4. Yesterday plumbing back issue boxes in a store dark=20
from a power loss, I found a pretty good copy of issue #3. Now I'm=20
well within striking distance of getting the whole shebang.=20

These aren't great Tarzan tales by any imagination, but Glanzman's=20
take on the Apeman was a precursor of sorts of the vision Joe Kubert=20
would bring to the series some years later when DC landed the=20
license. It's far different from the sleek Tarzan popular at Gold=20
Key. In fact it seems according to some that Charlton is responsible=20
for getting Russ Manning his Tarzan gig. Here's the story from the=20
Tarzan of the Comics website:

"It was not Gold Key, however, that brought Tarzan into the Silver=20
Age. Charlton Comics entered the Burroughs market when they issued=20
Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1 (December 1964). Charlton's Tarzan effort,=20
edited by Pat Masulli and based on three stories, Capture of Tarzan,=20
The Fight for the Balu, and Tarzan's Way of Life, allowed to slip=20
into the public domain, shook Gold Key. In Charlton's first issue,=20
Masulli stated, "the true flavor of Tarzan as created by Mr.=20
Burroughs has rarely been tasted in comic books. We intend to change=20
that. We intend to be as true to the original as possible. We pledge=20
ourselves to a series of comics that will thrill and inspire, delight=20
and entrance as did the original masterworks. "=20

"Jungle Tales of Tarzan reportedly sold well enough to justify its=20
continued existence. The creative team of Masulli, Sam Glanzman, and=20
Joe Gill, kept their pledge to the readers. However, even though the=20
stories Sam Glanzman drew and Joe Gill adapted were free of=20
copyright, Western Publishing and Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., argued=20
that Tarzan was still a trademark. Jungle Tales of Tarzan folded=20
after only four issues.=20

"Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold=20
Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two=20
stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154=20
(November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to=20
Korak."

Pretty interesting! At least I thought so.

Dean=20

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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I think that Charlton could have avoided the mess by using only the title J=
ungle Tales, but I guess that would have confused readers who didn't know i=
t was Tarzan.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jungle Tales Of Tarzan!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:50 AM






I've not made any special effort to get hold of Charlton's ill-fated=20
unlicensed Jungle Tales of Tarzan comics. Apparently Charlton=20
imagined that the rights to Tarzan (or some Tarzan stories anyway)=20
had fallen into public domain and trotted out their own Tarzan series=20
for four issues before the mighty fist of ERB came crashing down and=20
stopped the project.=20

I've had issue #2 for many years, finding it somewhere in my travels=20
and fascinated by the Sam Glanzman artwork, the best cover of the=20
series. Early this year I stumbled across a beaten up but readable=20
copy of issue #4. Yesterday plumbing back issue boxes in a store dark=20
from a power loss, I found a pretty good copy of issue #3. Now I'm=20
well within striking distance of getting the whole shebang.=20

These aren't great Tarzan tales by any imagination, but Glanzman's=20
take on the Apeman was a precursor of sorts of the vision Joe Kubert=20
would bring to the series some years later when DC landed the=20
license. It's far different from the sleek Tarzan popular at Gold=20
Key. In fact it seems according to some that Charlton is responsible=20
for getting Russ Manning his Tarzan gig. Here's the story from the=20
Tarzan of the Comics website:

"It was not Gold Key, however, that brought Tarzan into the Silver=20
Age. Charlton Comics entered the Burroughs market when they issued=20
Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1 (December 1964). Charlton's Tarzan effort,=20
edited by Pat Masulli and based on three stories, Capture of Tarzan,=20
The Fight for the Balu, and Tarzan's Way of Life, allowed to slip=20
into the public domain, shook Gold Key. In Charlton's first issue,=20
Masulli stated, "the true flavor of Tarzan as created by Mr.=20
Burroughs has rarely been tasted in comic books. We intend to change=20
that. We intend to be as true to the original as possible. We pledge=20
ourselves to a series of comics that will thrill and inspire, delight=20
and entrance as did the original masterworks. "=20

"Jungle Tales of Tarzan reportedly sold well enough to justify its=20
continued existence. The creative team of Masulli, Sam Glanzman, and=20
Joe Gill, kept their pledge to the readers. However, even though the=20
stories Sam Glanzman drew and Joe Gill adapted were free of=20
copyright, Western Publishing and Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., argued=20
that Tarzan was still a trademark. Jungle Tales of Tarzan folded=20
after only four issues.=20

"Still, the apparent success of Jungle Tales of Tarzan prompted Gold=20
Key to switch Russ Manning from Korak to Tarzan of the Apes with two=20
stories Descent into the Past and Fury of Gayat in issue #154=20
(November 1965), although Manning continued to make contributions to=20
Korak."

Pretty interesting! At least I thought so.

Dean=20

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You bet I collect the Charlton ones! 150 New Cartoons, Cartoon Carnival, Go=
od Humor, you name it! I've got over a hundred and keep adding more.
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What have you got, Phil? Any duplicates?

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charltonspotlight.com

Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
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--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

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Well, you can always check our listing at http://www.charltonspotlight.com.
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I'd be very interested if you have any documented comics not listed there.
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Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
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http://www.charltonspotlight.com

Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
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Subject: [CharltonBullseye]Charlton Checklist
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:25 PM








For anyone interested. I have posted in the files section a checklist, with=
 publication dates, for all 262 (I think that is all???)
titles published by Charlton.

I would love to know of any other titles if you can think of them>

Jerry Young-WV

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Hope you cracked it open, Phil! :)
Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
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http://www.charltonspotlight.com

Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
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--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jack In The Box # 11
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Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 2:20 AM






Darcy,
=A0
Speaking of Charlton comics, check out what I received in the mail today ~ =
a 7.5 CGC encapsulated Jack In The Box # 11 comic book from November 1946. =
It features a Yellowjacket superhero story in it, one of my favourite golde=
n age superheroes!
=A0
Jack In The Box # 11 continues the numbering from the cancelled YELLOWJACKE=
T COMICS # 1 through # 12, so, any way you slice it, this is YELLOWJACKET C=
OMICS # 11.
=A0
And, one of the very earliest Charlton Comics!
=A0
Is that cool or what?
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 6:30 PM

Phil,
That parallels what I've heard too. Supposedly Roger Broughton bought envel=
opes of artwork from Charlton when it dissolved. He might have thought he b=
ought the rights to them too, but that's not how it works (at least in this=
 country). I don't know if the same holds true for the Fawcett and ACG purc=
hases he made?

I don't recall if I heard this when this came up previously in this group, =
or somewhere else? At the time, our informant said that a publishing compan=
y answered the phone if you called the number supposedly for Roger Broughto=
n, but the caller seldom got a call back (and, even then, could not verify =
that the person calling them back was Mr. Broughton). Emails went unanswere=
d. It sounds like a fine way to run a business.
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:15:23 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] More on Roger Broughton from Phil Latter

Darci,
To give you a little more background, my suspicion as to why Roger Broughto=
n disappeared or, to put it another way, became a recluse who does not spea=
k to people about his comics publishing past nor what legal agreements he h=
ad with Charlton, in terms of the fictional Charlton characters he "bought"=
 (note the parenthesis) --- my strong suspicion is he doesn't want anyone t=
o know what legal rights and ownerships or non-legal rights or non-ownershi=
ps --- he does or does not have.

My suspicions are that he purchased reproduction/ -reprint rights to those =
characters only, and that he does not, in effect, legally "own" those chara=
cters. Meaning, he couldn't legally put out NEW comics stories with those c=
haracters.

This is what I believe.

I have no proof either way, yet it strikes me as interesting (it should str=
ike you all as interesting as well), to hear that Roger Broughton's various=
 comics imprint company names have, over the years in Canada, published rep=
rints of numerous Charlton and ACG old comics stories AS WELL AS some new c=
omics with new stories. However, not one single NEW comics stories about ei=
ther Charlton nor ACG characters.

Interesting, yes?

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:28 AM

There was quite a discussion in Nov 2005 about Roger Broughton in this very=
 group. No one seemed to be able to verify if he even actually existed, or =
was some legal fiction on the behalf of a Quebec publisher ala the 1956 fil=
m "The Man Who Never Was"? Phil, did anything ever get resolved on that?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

Richard Broughton reprinted some of the Fighting Five, so I assume he
bought the rights.

steven rowe

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi
> retained the rights to the character?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
>
> I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
> hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
> collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
> blast reading them.
>
> I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
> Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
> who didn't go to DC.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>
> wrote:
>>
>> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably
> have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is
> scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of
> detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I
> enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>>
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>>
>
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No, there seems to have been little interest in the F5, if any at all. Face=
 it, back then nobody cared in the very least for the Action Heroes except =
perhaps for Captain Atom and Blue Beetle.
=A0
Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charltonspotlight.com

Also visit: http://www.ramonschenk.nl
Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo.com/ramonschenk

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:09 PM






Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi ret=
ained the rights to the character?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
blast reading them.

I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
who didn't go to DC.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>=20
wrote:
>
> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably=20
have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is=20
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Actually,I liked the couple of issues of F5 that I had and their back up st=
ories in Peacemaker.=A0 I also, liked the Sentinels, you know that rock gro=
up who became super heroes (where have I heard that before?), too bad they =
only appeared in their tow backup stories.=A0 I think Charlton was really p=
utting out some good stuff, ie Shape and Spookman, etc, which may have gone=
 somewhere if the company hadn't folded.=A0 I have given them some story id=
eas bringing Judomaster into the (then) present where his son takes over th=
e mantle.=A0 They liked my synopses and said they would run them if I found=
 a artist to draw them.=A0 It was shortly after that that they folded.

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:45 AM






No, there seems to have been little interest in the F5, if any at all. Face=
 it, back then nobody cared in the very least for the Action Heroes except =
perhaps for Captain Atom and Blue Beetle.
=A0
Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charlton spotlight. com

Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo. com/ramonschenk

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:09 PM

Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi ret=
ained the rights to the character?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
blast reading them.

I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
who didn't go to DC.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>=20
wrote:
>
> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably=20
have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is=20
scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of=20
detail typical of the low pay but still able to tell a story. I=20
enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>=20
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>

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PS:=A0 I think that the Fightn' 5 would make a good movie.=A0 However, know=
ing the industry's penchant for overdone sex and violence, I probably would=
n't go see it.

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:45 AM






No, there seems to have been little interest in the F5, if any at all. Face=
 it, back then nobody cared in the very least for the Action Heroes except =
perhaps for Captain Atom and Blue Beetle.
=A0
Best,
Ramon

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charlton spotlight. com

Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo. com/ramonschenk

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:09 PM

Anyone know if it's like the issue with Peter Cannon, where Pete Morisi ret=
ained the rights to the character?
Thanks,
Darci

----- Original Message ----
From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!

I've had a copy of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been dang
hard to find over the years. Recently I committed to putting the
collection together after too many years of neglect and it's proving a
blast reading them.

I wonder why the 5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son of
Vulcan along with the other Action Heroes? They're about the only ones
who didn't go to DC.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Jim Ludwig" <jimludwig@. ..>=20
wrote:
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> I have been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably=20
have some doubles and I think I have them all. My collection is=20
scattered I am hopelessly unorganized. The art has the lack of=20
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enjoyed reading Joe's stories.
>=20
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Afraid not Ramon. No duplicates, sorry.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 9:50 AM






You bet I collect the Charlton ones! 150 New Cartoons, Cartoon Carnival, Go=
od Humor, you name it! I've got over a hundred and keep adding more.
=A0
What have you got, Phil? Any duplicates?

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charlton spotlight. com

Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
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I've got a few dupes. Would you be interested in those?
=A0
Best,
Ramon
--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list
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Afraid not Ramon. No duplicates, sorry.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Additions for the Charlton list
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
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You bet I collect the Charlton ones! 150 New Cartoons, Cartoon Carnival, Go=
od Humor, you name it! I've got over a hundred and keep adding more.
=A0
What have you got, Phil? Any duplicates?

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE
http://www.charlton spotlight. com

Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo. com/ramonschenk

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Ramon, what issues do a have dupes of? I am probably missing a scant few.
=A0
Phil

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I've got a few dupes. Would you be interested in those?
=A0
Best,
Ramon
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Afraid not Ramon. No duplicates, sorry.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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You bet I collect the Charlton ones! 150 New Cartoons, Cartoon Carnival, Go=
od Humor, you name it! I've got over a hundred and keep adding more.
=A0
What have you got, Phil? Any duplicates?

Ramon Schenk,
contributing editor
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http://www.charlton spotlight. com

Also visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nl
Or my weblog: http://360.yahoo. com/ramonschenk

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Hi Ramon i liked the fightin'5 and had all but 2 issues at one time. I was =
wondering if anyone knew just who had there Copyrights.
Thank You & God Bless  Guy E Sparkman=20=20

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, 18 Sep 2008 06:56:16 -0700Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 -=
 America's Super Squad!




Actually,I liked the couple of issues of F5 that I had and their back up st=
ories in Peacemaker.  I also, liked the Sentinels, you know that rock group=
 who became super heroes (where have I heard that before?), too bad they on=
ly appeared in their tow backup stories.  I think Charlton was really putti=
ng out some good stuff, ie Shape and Spookman, etc, which may have gone som=
ewhere if the company hadn't folded.  I have given them some story ideas br=
inging Judomaster into the (then) present where his son takes over the mant=
le.  They liked my synopses and said they would run them if I found a artis=
t to draw them.  It was shortly after that that they folded.--- On Thu, 9/1=
8/08, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:From: Ramon Schenk <ramons=
chenk@yahoo.com>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's S=
uper Squad!To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday, September 18=
, 2008, 9:45 AMNo, there seems to have been little interest in the F5, if a=
ny at all. Face it, back then nobody cared in the very least for the Action=
 Heroes except perhaps for Captain Atom and Blue Beetle. Best,RamonRamon Sc=
henk,contributing editorCHARLTON SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINEhttp://www.charlton spot=
light. comAlso visit: http://www.ramonsch enk.nlOr my weblog: http://360.ya=
hoo. com/ramonschenk--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:=
From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin=
' 5 - America's Super Squad!To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tue=
sday, August 26, 2008, 1:09 PMAnyone know if it's like the issue with Peter=
 Cannon, where Pete Morisi retained the rights to the character?Thanks,Darc=
i----- Original Message ----From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>To: Charl=
tonBullseye@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:00:58 AMSubje=
ct: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!I've had a cop=
y of issue #41 since I was a kid. But they've been danghard to find over th=
e years. Recently I committed to putting thecollection together after too m=
any years of neglect and it's proving ablast reading them.I wonder why the =
5 didn't get picked up with Sarge Steel and Son ofVulcan along with the oth=
er Action Heroes? They're about the only oneswho didn't go to DC.--- In Cha=
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ave been a fan of the five since their inception. I probably have some doub=
les and I think I have them all. My collection is scattered I am hopelessly=
 unorganized. The art has the lack of detail typical of the low pay but sti=
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In my honest opinion? No one. But I'm sure Roger Broughton thinks he has them. He published a one-shot a few years back called The Power of 5, which was the Fightin' Five, reprinted.

Best,
Ramon

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--- On Fri, 9/19/08, guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: guy sparkman <sparkmang@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [CharltonBullseye] Re:Fightin' 5 - America's Super Squad!
> To: charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 12:50 AM
> Hi Ramon i liked the fightin'5 and had all but 2 issues
> at one time. I was wondering if anyone knew just who had
> there Copyrights.
> Thank You & God Bless  Guy E Sparkman  


      

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I have a few questions 

1. Hub City got introduced in the Charlton Blue Beetle (Kord) series, not the Question, right? Did the Question operate out of Crown City? 

2. Where did archaeologist Dan Garrett operate out of? 

3. In Americomics#3, in the second story, did the CBI appear? I seem to recall that Ted Kord had gotten captured, so the CBI had him traded for his freedom. 


      

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Subject: Zoo Comics # 1, 1945 with yet another Yellowjacket appearance-!
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....Cuz if I do, Scooter, they won't fly south for the winter.....right-?
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inal vintage Zoo Comics # 1, 1945 (first series, says # 101 on cover.) But =
it is, nontheless, the very first issue, according to the Overstreet Comic =
Book Price Guide.
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It's a funny animal book, and I paid $59.00 U.S. for it including $9.00 shi=
pping.
Okay, so what's so special about that-? And why oh why would anyone pay tha=
t much for a funny animal comic book-?!
=A0
Well, it is also the Very First Ever....Charlton Comics comic book-!
=A0
=A0But even that isn't why I bought it. Nope, not the reason.
=A0
The real reason why I purchased it is that it contains a "Yellowjacket Juni=
or" appearance-!
Maybe his ONLY appearance anywhere, ever-!
=A0
Now, Who, you may ask yourself, is Yellowjacket Jr-?
=A0
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c book costumed superheroes, Yellowjacket-!
=A0
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Huh-?
Oh, and didja see how I very subtly at the end there, maneuvered the topic =
back onto Marvel Comics-?
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As Dr. McCoy said in the movie Star Trek: V1: The Undiscovered Country, "Da=
mn clever, if you ask me-!"
=A0

=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
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From: Scooter <headcat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [stanleeera] paypal
To: stanleeera@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, October 3, 2008, 2:25 PM







Wecome Phil,

You can pick up your cyber-banking brain insert over there in the virtual c=
orner. Remember - don't feed the nanotechnology. ..

Scooter


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Here's an update. A local friend who used paypal has offered to set it up f=
or me AND....how me how to use it.
=A0
I said fine, thanks. Soooooo..... it looks like I am, after all, going to b=
e dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century.
=A0
Cheers!
=A0
Phil

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Scooter <headcat@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Scooter <headcat@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [stanleeera] Re: [johnstonmcculleyzo rro] Cheers from the Mari=
times
To: stanleeera@yahoogro ups.com
Received: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 7:46 PM





Hey Phil,=20


I think we are all on the same page here. PayPal is just another tool. I do=
n't think Ebay (a giant, public company) would be so stupid as to limit the=
mselves with a =A0move like exclusivity without a very good reason. In fact=
 I doubt that their shareholders would allow it. Paypal was great for me wh=
en I had a band and was selling merchandise worldwide from a website and I'=
ve even used it to just send money to a friend who was picking something up=
 for me while traveling. Personally I rarely find the need to physically go=
 into a bank anymore - which seems to be what the banks actually would pref=
er - pretty much all my services are available online or by ATM or debit.


Scooter


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote=
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Hmm.
Okay. It sounds like only sellers pay lots of paypal fees, not buyers. That=
's good, then.
My friend Bev who complains of a lot of paypal fees, he SELLS a lot of item=
s on ebay, so I guess that is why he has a lot of fees.
=A0
Thanks, folks!
=A0
Phil Latter

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s
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> Phil Latter wrote:
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> > Scooter,
> >
> > I do respect everyone's opinion, including yours. I'm not against
> > paypal. I'm against ebay making paypal the (only) option. That's=20
all.
> >
> > And yes, it's true. I work at a major chartered Canadian bank,=20
and I
> > ergo (as staff) get my money orders (for any country) for free.=20
I pay
> > only the U.S. dollar amount of the item plus shipping plus=20
exchange
> > rate. I do not pay any dollars for the money order itself, which=20
to
> > me is a huge advantage that I do like. And rightly so. And, I=20
don't
> > pay paypal fees.
> >
> > And, right now and for awhile, the Canadian and U.S. dollar
> > currencies are at about par.
> >
> > My friend Bev Keddy, who is on the Gene Colan @ yahoo groups=20
with me,
> > has told me many times that he pays a lot of paypal fees.
> >
> > What can the rest of you tell me about how the paypal fees work?=20
I'd
> > really like to know.
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> I got PayPal a few months ago because an item I wanted on eBay (an=20
amp)=20
> was available *only* via PayPal. I resented the hoops PayPal made=20
me=20
> jump through, but once in (and with established credit), I've had=20
no=20
> problems at all, and certainly paid no fees.
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Subject: Read About Haunted Love!
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Here's a link to a blog where the entire Joe Gill & Tom Sutton=20
story "Mother's Boy" from Haunted Love #5 is available for your=20
entertainment.=20

Here's the link:

http://fortressofortitude.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/mothers-boy/


Enjoy!

Dean


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Not to steal your thunder, Dean, but there are several issues of Haunted Lo=
ve posted online at www.4shared.com.=A0 Thank you for the heads up, though.=
=A0 Sutton's art is pretty darn solid.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Read About Haunted Love!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 6:23 AM






Here's a link to a blog where the entire Joe Gill & Tom Sutton=20
story "Mother's Boy" from Haunted Love #5 is available for your=20
entertainment.=20

Here's the link:

http://fortressofor titude.wordpress .com/2008/ 09/15/mothers- boy/

Enjoy!

Dean

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Subject: For Working Girls !!!!!!!!!
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Has anyone here ever seen the 1950s movie " THE BEST OF EVERYTHING " ,=20
starring Hope Lange and remembered for a supporting Joan Crawford ( I=20
believe the DVD emphasizes Ms. No-Wire-Hangers . ) ? Or , read the=20
novel , by the late Rona Jaffe...
  The story is about " working girls , in New York City " of the=20
contemporary Fifties .


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...The movie ( & book ) concerns itself with their mildly daring - for=20
the Fifties - " working girl " lives , and is a touch=20
naughty/salacious - again , by Fifties standards .
  Sort of a " steamy romance of today's working women !!!!!!!!! " !
  Anyway , in the story they work , in an NYC office building ( Nice=20
vintage NYC location shots and vintage indoor lounge/bar/club and=20
apartment - presumably studio ones , I guess . - shots . )...at a=20
publishing company of magazines and paperback books named DERBY=20
BOOKS !!!!!!!!!!!
  I rather tend to think that Dell Books was the inspiration , but=20
there ya have it . We see a couple interesting examples of 1950s=20
thriller/private dick cover art ,
sans the title and trade dressing , on office walls ( including La=20
Crawford's ) .
  We see some books
around the office - The only one that I could make out was THE MAN IN=20
THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT , so , whoever issued the pb of that back in the=20
Fifties , they were , presumably , the company which played along with=20
the movie makers...


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Simon & Schuster published Sloan Wilson's book in 1955.  They also published Rona Jaffe's book in 1958.
Hope this helps,
Darci

jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@yahoo.com> wrote:                             ...The movie ( & book ) concerns itself with their mildly daring - for 
 the Fifties - " working girl " lives , and is a touch 
 naughty/salacious - again , by Fifties standards .
   Sort of a " steamy romance of today's working women !!!!!!!!! " !
   Anyway , in the story they work , in an NYC office building ( Nice 
 vintage NYC location shots and vintage indoor lounge/bar/club and 
 apartment - presumably studio ones , I guess . - shots . )...at a 
 publishing company of magazines and paperback books named DERBY 
 BOOKS !!!!!!!!!!!
   I rather tend to think that Dell Books was the inspiration , but 
 there ya have it . We see a couple interesting examples of 1950s 
 thriller/private dick cover art ,
 sans the title and trade dressing , on office walls ( including La 
 Crawford's ) .
   We see some books
 around the office - The only one that I could make out was THE MAN IN 
 THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT , so , whoever issued the pb of that back in the 
 Fifties , they were , presumably , the company which played along with 
 the movie makers...
 
 
     
                                       

       

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No, I did not.  I checked TCM to see if the picture was on their schedule (it's not).  They apparently did show it last July, so I'll watch for it to appear again.
S&S's paperback division appears to be Pocket Books.  They started in 1939, and were combined with S&S in 1944.
Darci




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--- In Ch





....Thank you , okay , whoever S&S's paperback division was then ,
it was , I suppose...
  I once read that Carly Simon's dad left Simon & Schuster over a
disagreement with Schuster over the then-new paperback format .
  Schuster wanted to get into the format in a big way , Simon
didn't .
  Obviously , to be proven wrong that way...........
  Did you ever read the novel/see the picture , Darci ???????????



arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
>
> Simon & Schuster published Sloan Wilson's book in 1955.  They also
published Rona Jaffe's book in 1958.
> Hope this helps,
> Darci
>
> jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@...>
wrote:                             ...The movie ( & book ) concerns
itself with their mildly daring - for
>  the Fifties - " working girl " lives , and is a touch
>  naughty/salacious - again , by Fifties standards .
>    Sort of a " steamy romance of today's working
women !!!!!!!!! " !
>    Anyway , in the story they work , in an NYC office building (
Nice
>  vintage NYC location shots and vintage indoor lounge/bar/club and
>  apartment - presumably studio ones , I guess . - shots . )...at a
>  publishing company of magazines and paperback books named DERBY
>  BOOKS !!!!!!!!!!!
>    I rather tend to think that Dell Books was the inspiration ,
but
>  there ya have it . We see a couple interesting examples of 1950s
>  thriller/private dick cover art ,
>  sans the title and trade dressing , on office walls ( including
La
>  Crawford's ) .
>    We see some books
>  around the office - The only one that I could make out was THE
MAN IN
>  THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT , so , whoever issued the pb of that back
in the
>  Fifties , they were , presumably , the company which played along
with
>  the movie makers...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


      

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I'm new here so bear with me! This is something i've long wondered
about: I know that the final Blue Beetle story intended for issue 6
eventually saw the light of day (A Specter Is Haunting Hub City) but
did the Question story that must have been ready to accompany it? The
whole issue was ready to print so the story must have been completed.
I'd love to see this. Does anyone know anything about it? If it hasn't
been published, presumably it still exists somewhere (?) Any help
appreciated. Thanks. Laurence=20=20


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--- laurencevegan2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I'm new here so bear with me! This is something i've long
> wondered about: I know that the final Blue Beetle story
intended for
> issue 6 eventually saw the light of day (A Specter Is Haunting
Hub
> City) but did the Question story that must have been ready to
accompany
> it? The whole issue was ready to print so the story must have
been
> completed.
> I'd love to see this. Does anyone know anything about it? If
> it hasn't been published, presumably it still exists somewhere
(?) Any
> help appreciated. Thanks. Laurence  
> 
> 

Unless somebody knows differently, I believe that story ended up
as the first section of Mysterious Suspense #1. The first two
parts. IIRC, were in that format, while the ending was not.

_________________________________
 
 
Plutonium Nightmare
a novel of The VOICE

By Erwin K. Roberts
 

In PDF or Print-On-Demand formats.
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"Unless somebody knows differently, I believe that story ended up
as the first section of Mysterious Suspense #1. The first two
parts. IIRC, were in that format, while the ending was not".

Really? I hadn't heard that before! I must dig out that issue and have=20
a look again. If so, then presumably it would have been the first part=20
of a three-parter back-up to run over three issues (?). Thanks for the=20
reply. Anyone know any more about this? I'd like to get to the bottom=20
of this one!


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that's pretty much what I've always heard as well.

steven rowe

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:05 AM, laurencevegan2
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> "Unless somebody knows differently, I believe that story ended up
> as the first section of Mysterious Suspense #1. The first two
> parts. IIRC, were in that format, while the ending was not".
>
> Really? I hadn't heard that before! I must dig out that issue and have
> a look again. If so, then presumably it would have been the first part
> of a three-parter back-up to run over three issues (?). Thanks for the
> reply. Anyone know any more about this? I'd like to get to the bottom
> of this one!
>
> 

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--- In Ch












...Thank you again .
  Obviously this , sort of , " entered under a name I usually don't=20
use here " , message somehow reached you , but  didn't get posted .
  The movie's fun ( SPOILER! Hints !!!!! )...Which one of the=20
working girls gets knocked up/goes crazy/marries the boy next=20
door/gets in a good clinch by the end ?????????
  What happens when the young Robert Evans?? actually tells a femme=20
he's sweet-talking " Of course I respect you ! " , or similar ???????
  We get a list of the magazines " published " by Derby Books on the=20
outside of the office , I do remember one entitled "=20
Teenager " !!!!!!!!!!!
  No real description (Much) of the books , beyond one scene where=20
Hope is taking dictation/whatever from her boss , and he talks about=20
their plan for " a new line of the classics " . something like=20
that . However , Joan rejects a novel proposal as " sheer=20
pornography " , or something like that , and Hope , well , but that=20
would be...telling.........



arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
>
> No, I did not.  I checked TCM to see if the picture was on their=20
schedule (it's not).  They apparently did show it last July, so I'll=20
watch for it to appear again.
> S&S's paperback division appears to be Pocket Books.  They started=20
in 1939, and were combined with S&S in 1944.
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: chappaquaboy <chappaquaboy@...>
> To: Darci <darci386@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Dr. Graves ( And E-man , and Killjoy - maybe -=20
too . ) will protect.........
>=20
> --- In Ch
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ....Thank you , okay , whoever S&S's paperback division was then ,
> it was , I suppose...
>   I once read that Carly Simon's dad left Simon & Schuster over a
> disagreement with Schuster over the then-new paperback format .
>   Schuster wanted to get into the format in a big way , Simon
> didn't .
>   Obviously , to be proven wrong that way...........
>   Did you ever read the novel/see the picture , Darci ???????????
>=20
>=20
>=20
> arltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@> wrote:
> >
> > Simon & Schuster published Sloan Wilson's book in 1955.  They=20
also
> published Rona Jaffe's book in 1958.
> > Hope this helps,
> > Darci
> >
> > jgbook2007 <jgbook2007@>
> wrote:                             ...The movie ( & book ) concerns
> itself with their mildly daring - for
> >  the Fifties - " working girl " lives , and is a touch
> >  naughty/salacious - again , by Fifties standards .
> >    Sort of a " steamy romance of today's working
> women !!!!!!!!! " !
> >    Anyway , in the story they work , in an NYC office building (
> Nice
> >  vintage NYC location shots and vintage indoor lounge/bar/club=20
and
> >  apartment - presumably studio ones , I guess . - shots . )...at=20
a
> >  publishing company of magazines and paperback books named DERBY
> >  BOOKS !!!!!!!!!!!
> >    I rather tend to think that Dell Books was the inspiration ,
> but
> >  there ya have it . We see a couple interesting examples of 1950s
> >  thriller/private dick cover art ,
> >  sans the title and trade dressing , on office walls ( including
> La
> >  Crawford's ) .
> >    We see some books
> >  around the office - The only one that I could make out was THE
> MAN IN
> >  THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT , so , whoever issued the pb of that back
> in the
> >  Fifties , they were , presumably , the company which played=20
along
> with
> >  the movie makers...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>=20
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Hi. I thought you should both know that my website has been down since 
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The good news, I guess, is that the site went down because it was 
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Normally, Last Kiss averages about 100 visits a day (about 80 unique 
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So, when I talk to my hosting company on Monday, I'll have it increase 
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In a message dated 10/17/2008 4:35:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com writes:

_Re: The Question unpublished story _ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/message/3293;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdmI3cjM2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUxMzkxODIE
Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE4NTIyBG1zZ0lkAzMyOTMEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIyND
IzMjU0Mw--) 
Posted by: "laurencevegan2" _no_reply@yahoogroups.com  _ 
(mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com?Subject= Re:%20The%20Question%20unpublished%20story) 
_laurencevegan2 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/laurencevegan2) 
Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:05 am (PDT) 
"Unless somebody knows differently, I believe that  story ended up
as the first section of Mysterious Suspense #1. The first  two
parts. IIRC, were in that format, while the ending was  not".

Really? I hadn't heard that before! I must dig out that issue and  have 
a look again. If so, then presumably it would have been the first  part 
of a three-parter back-up to run over three issues (?). Thanks for  the 
reply. Anyone know any more about this? I'd like to get to the bottom  
of this one!




Yes, I've always felt that the first part of The Question story in  
MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE was intended for BLUE BEETLE #6 and the following two  chapters 
were intended for a comic featuring The Question as the headliner. This  raises 
the question (no pun intended) of what the back-up story was to have been  for 
what I will refer to as THE QUESTION #1?
 
Tony D. 


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Hmm, this is fascinating! Was the book-length story written for three=20
BB issues or was it written specifically for a whole issue (whether or=20
not it was called Mysterious Suspense at that stage), I wonder? Has=20
there ever been any official comment on this that can clarify? Looking=20
through the mag yesterday, it seems that all the sections COULD easily=20
have ended up in BB (numbers 6-8), although they didn't. I can't see=20
that the first part only would have been intended for BB though, as=20
that would mean starting a full length Question comic at part two of=20
the story. Has there ever been any indication either that a Question=20
mag with a different back-up feature was ever planned? Curiouser and=20
curiouser...


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That story appears in the Chalrton Bullseye Annex group.=A0 Join=A0here:=A0=
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseyeAnnex/
=A0


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From: laurencevegan2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Question unpublished story
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:33 AM






I'm new here so bear with me! This is something i've long wondered
about: I know that the final Blue Beetle story intended for issue 6
eventually saw the light of day (A Specter Is Haunting Hub City) but
did the Question story that must have been ready to accompany it? The
whole issue was ready to print so the story must have been completed.
I'd love to see this. Does anyone know anything about it? If it hasn't
been published, presumably it still exists somewhere (?) Any help
appreciated. Thanks. Laurence=20

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 I only have one issue of this comic but I thought it was great. I love=20
war comics not because I love war but the spirit it represents. The=20
Fightin 5 should be done again I would love it.


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Here are links to several Fightn Five

http://rapidshare.com/files/139719917/Fightin__5_031__1965-02.Charlton___Darwin___Metaldave-DCP_.cbr

http://rapidshare.com/files/143840776/Fightin__Five_028__1964___Formerly_Space_War___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143843238/Fightin__Five_029__1964___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143977558/Fightin__Five_030__1964___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143979834/Fightin__Five_032__1965___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143982132/Fightin__Five_033__1965___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143987260/Fightin__Five_035__1965___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143989343/Fightin__Five_038__1966___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/143991578/Fightin__Five_039__1966___c2c___ABPC_.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/129971961/Fightin__5_034__1965___c2c___KingDaubach-DCP_.cbr.cbr
http://rapidshare.com/files/129970106/Fightin__5_037__1966___c2c___KingDaubach-DCP_.cbr.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/?eocw4mskcxx     #41
http://www.mediafire.com/?7zw4gt1xxst 
http://rapidshare.com/files/93590326/Fightin__Five_047.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/59561776/Fightin_Five_040_Charlton_.cbr
http://mihd.net/e2g95h


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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
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Subject: Golden Age Green Lantern # 1, the very first ever Charlton comic, and Yellowjacket
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Lyle,
=A0
I bought it while living in Toronto, in the early 1980's. I became chums wi=
th a guy who shopped at the same specialty comics store as I did. He mentio=
ned to me that he owned it and that he was trying to put together money to =
go to university. Because his girlfriend wanted him to do something importa=
nt with his life. She'd previously turned him down for marriage, because he=
 worked in a record store.
=A0
Anyway, we became pretty good friends over time, and we'd have each other o=
ver to our respective apartments to look at each other's collections.
=A0
I offered to buy it several times, and eventually, he caved and sold it to =
me.=20
=A0
Green Lantern (both the Allan Scott and Hal Jordan versions) are two of my =
favourite characters. I have other golden age Green Lanterns and All-Americ=
an Comics issues, which also starred the Allan Scott Green Lantern.
=A0
And, in terms of silver age to present, I own original copies (not reprints=
) of every single Hal Jordan Green Lantern comic from his three issue run i=
n Showcase starting in 1959, to Green Lantern # 1, 1960 issue, right to pre=
sent.
=A0
Some other series that I've got them all include all Marvel Daredevils, all=
 Zorro comics (Dell and Gold Key, starting with his first comics appearance=
 in Four Colour Comics # 228, 1949), and all other Z comics since then; all=
 Avengers, all FF's, X-Men # 1 up till about twelve years ago, until they g=
ot so bad I couldn't buy nor read them anymore. Likewise, I gave up Amazing=
 Spiderman about ten years ago.
=A0
Anyway, The Golden Age Green Lantern # 1, 1941 issue is one of my proudest =
possessions. I also have an original colour Mart Nodell (creator of the 194=
0's Green Lantern) illustration that was commissioned from him in 1986, at =
the 1986 San Diego Comic Con. It's framed under glass on my living room wal=
l.
=A0
I buy a lot of vintage things on ebay. Although right now, I've just stoppe=
d, because for some unfathomable reason, the Canadian dollar value has rece=
ntly gone way down against the U.S. $.
=A0
Just today in the mail, arrived the first issue of Zoo Funnies # 1, Novembe=
r, 1945, series one.=A0It is a funny animal comic book. That isn't why I bo=
ught it. There were two reasons: it is the VERY FIRST EVER.....Charlton com=
ic book. The second reason is that it contains the very first (and only) ap=
pearance of YELLOWJACKET JR., who is the nephew of the golden age superhero=
 YELLOWJACKET.
=A0
I collect all appearances of the golden age Yellowjacket. So far I have YJ =
# 4,5,7,8,10, Jack In The Box # 11, which also has a Yellowjacket appearanc=
e; this issue is actually the eleventh=A0issue of Yellowjacket Comics, but =
with # eleven, they changed the title name.
And now I have Zoo Funnies # 1 with a Yellowjacket Jr. adventure in it.
=A0
I'll bet a lot of folks think that Marvel was being original when they crea=
ted a hero in the 1960's named Yellowjacket.
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Lyle Tucker <lyletucker@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Lyle Tucker <lyletucker@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [stanleeera] Howard Purcell
To: stanleeera@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 6:17 PM






Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:












I own an original (not a reprint) of the Golden Age Green Lantern # 1. I've=
 owned it since the early 1980's.
I understand that only 10-15 copies exist.






=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Jeez, Phil - how'd you luck into that, and what'd
it set you back?

--=20
Lyle Tucker

=20














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When I was a kid, I loved cars. . . had plenty of Matchbox and Hot=20
Wheels cars. . . my favorite cartoon was "Wacky Races". . . and I=20
always watched the Indy 500, even though it was shown on tape delay.
(Had to avoid listening to news before the race; didn't want to find=20
out who won before I got to see it!)

In that spirit, of course I bought a few of Charlton's car-related=20
comics. . . I've started an album with covers from "Hot Rods and Racing=20
Cars ( . . . with Clint Curtis and the Road Knights)" in the photos=20
section.


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As an early Halloween treat, I started an album in the Photos section=20
with covers of some of Charlton's "Horror" comics.  Hope you enjoy!


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Hi Mike!
I have a question for you, or perhaps a couple of questions...
=A0
Some months ago, somewhere on the web, I saw something you wrote (maybe on =
the Charlton Spotlight site-?)....a sentence or a paragraph about where all=
 the golden age appearances of Yellowjacket, a golden age superhero, appear=
ed. Yellowjacket was 'kind of' a Charlton character.
=A0
One of those appearances - sort of - was in the first series of ZOO FUNNIES=
 # 1, Nov.1945. This was the very first Charlton comic book. Yellowjacket w=
asn't in this one, however, 'Yellowjacket Jr.' (who is actually Yellowjacke=
t's nephew) is in it.
=A0
I later purchased Zoo Funnies # 1 from Nov. 1945, and it arrived in the mai=
l yesterday.
=A0
My first questions are: how did you know that Yellowjacket Jr. was in this =
comic? Do you own a copy of this comic or did you hear about it from Word O=
f Mouth? I'm just curious.
=A0
My next question is, is it possible that this 'Yellowjacket Jr' was in late=
r Zoo Funnies issues as well? The O.P.G makes mention of the fact that Zoo =
Funnies # 1 (the first of three series with that title) was the very first =
Charlton comic book, but there is no mention in the O.P.G. that 'Yellowjack=
et Jr' is in Zoo Funnies # 1, first series. That is why I am wondering how =
you knew...
=A0
I'm very interested in knowing if this Yellowjacket Jr. was in later issues=
 of Zoo Funnies as well.....
=A0
Thanks in advance!
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Re: The Halloween issue of DITKOMANIA released th=
is week!
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
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Same here! Great cover (front and back) and a lovely number of articles, al=
l well-illustrated. Hey Rob, don't forget to send me the bill for all this,=
 mate!
=A0
Best,
Ramon

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin. rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin. rr.com>
Subject: [charlton-l] Re: The Halloween issue of DITKOMANIA released this w=
eek!
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 5:14 PM




I just got my copy of the new ish, and it looks great! DM's getting better =
and better all the=20
time.

Mike A.

> At 05:56 PM 10/23/2008, Rob wrote:
>=20
> >>>Also, Ditkomania is now available with Paypal.<<<
>=20
> And I got super-fast service when I ordered it that way.
>=20
> Thanks, Rob!
>=20
> Tony
>=20
> TONY'S ONLINE TIPS
> http://www.worldfam ouscomics. com/tony
>


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Okay, who was better: Wheelie or Speed Buggy?
(No cheatin' and voting for the more modern characters from the=20
movie "Cars".)


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Speed Buggy was a fun bit of fluff and cloned the Scooby Doo show quite=20
successfully. It even made a typically entertaining Charlton comic=20
book, but Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch was exceedingly cool. The comic=20
from Charlton was better than the cartoon and one of the overlooked=20
classics of the Bronze Age! :)

Dean


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Subject: E-Man - The Idol?
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Has anyone seen this on the stands? I've been anxious to read it forever
now it seems. I love that Digital Webbing has given E-Man a place to
hang out, but the waits between issues have been murder.

What's the word?

Dean :)



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How many of those have their been? I've heard of them but not seen them. An=
d I frequent a specialty very well stocked comics store every week.
=A0
Phil

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Has anyone seen this on the stands? I've been anxious to read it forever
now it seems. I love that Digital Webbing has given E-Man a place to
hang out, but the waits between issues have been murder.

What's the word?

Dean :)

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E-Man: Idol is the third one-shot in the new series from Digital Webbing. A=
ccording to=20
their site (http://www.digitalwebbing.com/), the new book is supposed to be=
 out now, but=20
I haven't seen it. Last communication I had with the DW guys in August indi=
cated that Joe=20
was still finishing the art. Much as we like these books and wish they coul=
d come out more=20
often, we have to realize that Joe and Nick don't make any money from them =
(hence=20
they're not priority jobs for the creators) and DW is probably just about b=
reaking even. If=20
you want them to continue, buy multiple copies of each one and spread them =
around, like=20
I do! If your local shop doesn't get them, you can order by mail direct fro=
m DW.

Best thing to do at this point would be to contact the DW folks and let the=
m know you're=20
thirsty for the new ish.

Mike

> How many of those have their been? I've heard of them but not seen them. =
And I=20
frequent a specialty very well stocked comics store every week.
> =A0
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man - The Idol?
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 7:03 AM
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Has anyone seen this on the stands? I've been anxious to read it forever
> now it seems. I love that Digital Webbing has given E-Man a place to
> hang out, but the waits between issues have been murder.
>=20
> What's the word?
>=20
> Dean :)



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I don't have those three new EMAN comics, but I DO have one of those free E=
MAN Free Comic Book Day comics from about 3 years ago, with a NEW EMAN stor=
y!
=A0
Did you guys know about that one?
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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From: Michael Ambrose <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: E-Man - The Idol?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, November 10, 2008, 10:19 AM






E-Man: Idol is the third one-shot in the new series from Digital Webbing. A=
ccording to=20
their site (http://www.digitalw ebbing.com/), the new book is supposed to b=
e out now, but=20
I haven't seen it. Last communication I had with the DW guys in August indi=
cated that Joe=20
was still finishing the art. Much as we like these books and wish they coul=
d come out more=20
often, we have to realize that Joe and Nick don't make any money from them =
(hence=20
they're not priority jobs for the creators) and DW is probably just about b=
reaking even. If=20
you want them to continue, buy multiple copies of each one and spread them =
around, like=20
I do! If your local shop doesn't get them, you can order by mail direct fro=
m DW.

Best thing to do at this point would be to contact the DW folks and let the=
m know you're=20
thirsty for the new ish.

Mike

> How many of those have their been? I've heard of them but not seen them. =
And I=20
frequent a specialty very well stocked comics store every week.
> =A0
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man - The Idol?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 7:03 AM
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Has anyone seen this on the stands? I've been anxious to read it forever
> now it seems. I love that Digital Webbing has given E-Man a place to
> hang out, but the waits between issues have been murder.
>=20
> What's the word?
>=20
> Dean :)

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I saw Captain Doom listed on the home page.  Who is this character?  I=20
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Mercury Man?


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I think I missed that one, Phil. Can you give details?

Mike

> I don't have those three new EMAN comics, but I DO have one of those free=
 EMAN Free=20
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> =A0
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> Best,
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>

There is a complete Mercury Man story from Space Adventures #45 in the=20
Photos section. This is the second version of Mercury Man, the more=20
human looking one.=20

Captain Doom was a one-armed former Confederate officer who roamed the=20
west looking for outlaws. He's a ferocious looking fellow.=20

Dean :)




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Thanks, Dean.=A0 I had both of the Mercury Man stories at one time, but I s=
omehow lost them.=A0 BTW, I love all of your acting roles.

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>

There is a complete Mercury Man story from Space Adventures #45 in the=20
Photos section. This is the second version of Mercury Man, the more=20
human looking one.=20

Captain Doom was a one-armed former Confederate officer who roamed the=20
west looking for outlaws. He's a ferocious looking fellow.=20

Dean :)

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Does anyone out there know of any yahoo groups that focus on martial arts c=
omics characters such as Shang Chi, Bruce Lee, Yang, Judomaster, Iron Fist,=
 basically any comics groups with martial arts themes or heroes, etc,=A0all=
 in one group?=A0 I've seen a group here or there, but what I'm finding are=
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tore because they are all filled with spam messages.
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Appreciate it if anyone can supply me with some links.
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Yeah, Phil, phil us in! ;)

Best,
Ramon

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            I think I missed that one, Phil. Can you give details?



Mike



> I don't have those three new EMAN comics, but I DO have one of those free=
 EMAN Free=20

Comic Book Day comics from about 3 years ago, with a NEW EMAN story!

> =A0

> Did you guys know about that one?

> =A0

> Best,

> =A0

> Phil

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Captain Doom is like Jonah Hex: a former confederate officer who was badly =
handicapped in the war and is now hunting owlhoots.

A Steve Skeates creation, Iif I recall correctly.

The Mercury Man story is reprinted in one of Bill Black's AC comics. Check =
their website!

Best,
Ramon

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Captain Doom
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I agree. Lots of cool Joe Staton and John Byrne art. Weren't the scripts by=
 Tom DeFalco? I remember asking him about those and he was very surprised a=
nyone remembered this stuff.

Best,
Ramon

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            Speed Buggy was a fun bit of fluff and cloned the Scooby Doo sh=
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successfully. It even made a typically entertaining Charlton comic=20

book, but Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch was exceedingly cool. The comic=20

from Charlton was better than the cartoon and one of the overlooked=20

classics of the Bronze Age! :)



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Not a question I've been asked often. Judging from the comic book (never saw the cartoons), I'd have to say Wheelie. Speedbuggy was just too obedient to its human "master.

Best,
Ramon

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] cars
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:11 PM










    
            Okay, who was better: Wheelie or Speed Buggy?

(No cheatin' and voting for the more modern characters from the 

movie "Cars".)
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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The GCD still misses a couple of cover scans for Hot Rods and Racing Cars, so if you want to contribute scans (or better yet: indices)...?

http://85.80-203-185.nextgentel.com/covers.lasso?SeriesID=694

Same for Drag-strip Hotrodders:
http://85.80-203-185.nextgentel.com/covers.lasso?SeriesID=1550

And Teenage Hotrodders:
http://85.80-203-185.nextgentel.com/covers.lasso?SeriesID=11465

Drag N' Wheels:
http://85.80-203-185.nextgentel.com/covers.lasso?SeriesID=1839

We even miss a cover scan for Wheelie (#3):
http://85.80-203-185.nextgentel.com/covers.lasso?SeriesID=11383

Did I miss any series?

Best,
Ramon

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] "Hot Rod and Racing Cars"
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:05 AM










    
            When I was a kid, I loved cars. . . had plenty of Matchbox and Hot 

Wheels cars. . . my favorite cartoon was "Wacky Races". . . and I 

always watched the Indy 500, even though it was shown on tape delay.

(Had to avoid listening to news before the race; didn't want to find 

out who won before I got to see it!)



In that spirit, of course I bought a few of Charlton's car-related 

comics. . . I've started an album with covers from "Hot Rods and Racing 

Cars ( . . . with Clint Curtis and the Road Knights)" in the photos 

section.
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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One thing about the Charlton hot rod comics: I usually didn't buy them unle=
ss Jack Keller drew them.=A0 The generic Charlton artists left me cold.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] "Hot Rod and Racing Cars"
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:49 AM






The GCD still misses a couple of cover scans for Hot Rods and Racing Cars, =
so if you want to contribute scans (or better yet: indices)...?

http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 694

Same for Drag-strip Hotrodders:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 1550

And Teenage Hotrodders:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 11465

Drag N' Wheels:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 1839

We even miss a cover scan for Wheelie (#3):
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 11383

Did I miss any series?

Best,
Ramon

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From: xmscity1225 <xmscity1225@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] "Hot Rod and Racing Cars"
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:05 AM

When I was a kid, I loved cars. . . had plenty of Matchbox and Hot=20

Wheels cars. . . my favorite cartoon was "Wacky Races". . . and I=20

always watched the Indy 500, even though it was shown on tape delay.

(Had to avoid listening to news before the race; didn't want to find=20

out who won before I got to see it!)

In that spirit, of course I bought a few of Charlton's car-related=20

comics. . . I've started an album with covers from "Hot Rods and Racing=20

Cars ( . . . with Clint Curtis and the Road Knights)" in the photos=20

section.










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H Ramon,
=A0
I've notice an error. You have the same cover for Hot Rods and Racing Cars =
for both #54 and #55.
=A0
Take a look.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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From: Ramon Schenk <ramonschenk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] "Hot Rod and Racing Cars"
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 7:49 AM






The GCD still misses a couple of cover scans for Hot Rods and Racing Cars, =
so if you want to contribute scans (or better yet: indices)...?

http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 694

Same for Drag-strip Hotrodders:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 1550

And Teenage Hotrodders:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 11465

Drag N' Wheels:
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 1839

We even miss a cover scan for Wheelie (#3):
http://85.80- 203-185.nextgent el.com/covers. lasso?SeriesID=3D 11383

Did I miss any series?

Best,
Ramon

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From: xmscity1225 <xmscity1225@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] "Hot Rod and Racing Cars"
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:05 AM

When I was a kid, I loved cars. . . had plenty of Matchbox and Hot=20

Wheels cars. . . my favorite cartoon was "Wacky Races". . . and I=20

always watched the Indy 500, even though it was shown on tape delay.

(Had to avoid listening to news before the race; didn't want to find=20

out who won before I got to see it!)

In that spirit, of course I bought a few of Charlton's car-related=20

comics. . . I've started an album with covers from "Hot Rods and Racing=20

Cars ( . . . with Clint Curtis and the Road Knights)" in the photos=20

section.










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Thanks for the heads up, Phil. I've contacted the contributors to find out =
who made the boo boo.

Best,
Ramon

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m Phil
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=20=20=20=20
            H Ramon,

=A0

I've notice an error. You have the same cover for Hot Rods and Racing Cars =
for both #54 and #55.

=A0

Take a look.

=A0

Best,

=A0

Phil


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Happy to help, Ramon!
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Best Wishes,
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Thanks for the heads up, Phil. I've contacted the contributors to find out =
who made the boo boo.

Best,
Ramon

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m Phil
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H Ramon,

=A0

I've notice an error. You have the same cover for Hot Rods and Racing Cars =
for both #54 and #55.

=A0

Take a look.

=A0

Best,

=A0

Phil

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What was that one?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:58 PM
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  I think I missed that one, Phil. Can you give details?

  Mike

  > I don't have those three new EMAN comics, but I DO have one of those free EMAN Free 
  Comic Book Day comics from about 3 years ago, with a NEW EMAN story!
  >  
  > Did you guys know about that one?
  >  
  > Best,
  >  
  > Phil
  > 



   

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Subject: another new EMAN comic book just came out on Thursday of this week-!
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Unfortunately,
=A0
I read it several months ago, and I since filed it away in a bookcase under=
 whatever the title of it was. Now, I cannot remember the title.
=A0
The title (whatever it was) was NOT Eman, however, it did have an NEW Eman =
story in it-!.
=A0
It was published by Digital Webbing, and had "Free Comic Book Day" on the c=
over.=20
I realize that doesn't help much.
=A0
If I ever come across it in my huge collection again (I have a huge collect=
ion of over 70,00 comics, been collecting 40+ years; the entire collection =
is filed alpha numerically, on custom- built bookcases, one to a bag, with =
a file card denoting the title, of most titles), then I'll let you all know=
 at that time, what it is titled.
=A0
On Thursday of this past week, another Eman comic book with another NEW sto=
ry came out, in specialty comics stores. This newest one is=A0"Eman: Dolly"=
 and I noticed that it said on the cover "limited to 400 copies ONLY!" on t=
he cover. I grabbed and bought the very last copy the local specialty store=
, 'Strange Adventures', had on the rack!
I haven't read it, yet!
=A0
How many Digital Webbing Eman comics have there been, thus far, including t=
his newest one? I would REALLY very much like to know, please!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil Latter

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What was that one?
----- Original Message -----=20
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: E-Man - The Idol?

I think I missed that one, Phil. Can you give details?

Mike

> I don't have those three new EMAN comics, but I DO have one of those free=
 EMAN Free=20
Comic Book Day comics from about 3 years ago, with a NEW EMAN story!
>=20
> Did you guys know about that one?
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> Phil
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> =A0
> On Thursday of this past week, another Eman comic book with another=20
NEW story came out, in specialty comics stores. This newest one=20
is=A0"Eman: Dolly" and I noticed that it said on the cover "limited to=20
400 copies ONLY!" on the cover. I grabbed and bought the very last=20
copy the local specialty store, 'Strange Adventures', had on the rack!
> I haven't read it, yet!
> =A0
> How many Digital Webbing Eman comics have there been, thus far,=20
including this newest one? I would REALLY very much like to know,=20
please!
> =A0

There have been three publications from Digital Webbing with E-Man so=20
far with another in the offing. They began a few years ago with E-
Man - Recharged, then followed up last year with E-Man - Dolly (the=20
book you saw this past week was an alternate cover for that issue)=20
and there is the FCBD comic which featured some pages from the very=20
first one. There is a new one called E-Man - Idol, but I've not seen=20
it yet. I'm anxious to read it.=20

Dean


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Does anyone think that things would have been better if Moore could=20
have used the Original Charlton Heroes to tell the Watchmen tale?

Let me know what you think.


Peace
James/Sombra IIV/Shado/Shade Seven


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Not really. The characters while built around the Charlton Action=20
Heroes template aren't them really. Doc Manhattan ain't quite Captain=20
Atom. I think if Rorschack had been The Question, it would've limited=20
out ability as readers to see him as a larger broader character who is=20
symbolic of that whole type of thinking.=20

It's nice that the Charlton heroes are recognizable under the Watchmen=20
clothes but I'm glad they aren't the heroes of that story. It would of=20
course be their last one.=20

Dean




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> Does anyone think that things would have been better if Moore could=20
> have used the Original Charlton Heroes to tell the Watchmen tale?
>=20
> Let me know what you think.
>=20
>=20
> Peace
> James/Sombra IIV/Shado/Shade Seven
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Given that DC has done a rather lame job of using the Charlton action heroe=
s, perhaps it would have been better for them to go out with a bang, so to =
speak, by allowing Alan Moore to use them, as he originally wanted to.=A0 B=
ut the Watchmen saga turned out very well, anyway, it's just a shame that M=
oore doesn't own the characters himself.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Vs. Watchmen
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Does anyone think that things would have been better if Moore could=20
have used the Original Charlton Heroes to tell the Watchmen tale?

Let me know what you think.

Peace
James/Sombra IIV/Shado/Shade Seven

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I hope everyone has a great year!

This group is pretty quiet most of the time, but it's always nice to
find folks who share your passions and interests.

Dean




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Happy New Year Dean and all others. I think this group is not really that quiet but belong to the other Charlton groups and talk there.

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Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Looking for an another Charlton artist
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Hi Folks,
=A0
This post (below) prompts ME to ask about a former Charlton (and Marvel) ar=
tist, but not the same artist. as the other fellow=A0was asking about, belo=
w.
=A0
The artist I'd like to ask about is the late Owen McCarron, a friend from m=
y home city of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.
=A0
He did a lot of war (and probably westerns, too) comic books at Charlton in=
 the 1960's and 1970's.
He may even have worked on some of the car type hot rod comics from Charlto=
ns, but that is just a guess.
Whatever he did for Charlton, they were probably signed.
I know for a fact that he worked on Fightin' Army and also Fightin' Navy. A=
nd probably others. But I don't know what issue # s.
=A0
What I am hoping to get is a checklist of what Charltons he did.
I've also heard a rumour that he did some DC comics too, but this is NOT co=
nfirmed.
=A0
Why did I not ask him myself, when he was alive?
I did, at length. And he wasn't able to remember.
=A0
Can anyone help?
=A0
Very Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter

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Subject: [charlton-l] Looking for an artist
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Hello and Happy New year, everyone!

Can anyone help me out? I'm looking for information on Charlton (and
others) artist Hector Castellon. If anyone knows anything, or better
yet can put me in touch with him (I don't know if he's still with us
or not...) or someone who worked with him, I'd be ecstatic. I'm
looking for info for a book I'm writing.

Thanks!

Mike H.

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Folks,
=A0
Yesterday, I purchased Eman: Curse Of The Idol, which just came out in spec=
ialty comics stores, that day!
=A0
I haven't read it yet, but it looks good!
=A0
But what I really wanted to draw your attentions to, is a potentially even =
scarcer Eman appearance comic book that I picked up as a Free Comic Book Da=
y issue, a couple of years ago.
=A0
I in fact, did mention this item, before on these groups, but at the time, =
I'd brought it home, read it, then stored it, and could no longer recall th=
e title of it!

Well, I=A0turned it up accidentally, today, while looking for something els=
e.
=A0
From Digital Webbing, the title of this FCBD comic book is 'Digital Webbing=
 Jam 2007', with an eman story in it, among other things, that I THINK was =
new at the time!
=A0
So, Eman fans, you might want to put this on your Want Lists!
=A0
Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter


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thanks Phil!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:02 PM
  Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Scarce Eman appearance?


  Folks,
   
  Yesterday, I purchased Eman: Curse Of The Idol, which just came out in specialty comics stores, that day!
   
  I haven't read it yet, but it looks good!
   
  But what I really wanted to draw your attentions to, is a potentially even scarcer Eman appearance comic book that I picked up as a Free Comic Book Day issue, a couple of years ago.
   
  I in fact, did mention this item, before on these groups, but at the time, I'd brought it home, read it, then stored it, and could no longer recall the title of it!

  Well, I turned it up accidentally, today, while looking for something else.
   
  From Digital Webbing, the title of this FCBD comic book is 'Digital Webbing Jam 2007', with an eman story in it, among other things, that I THINK was new at the time!
   
  So, Eman fans, you might want to put this on your Want Lists!
   
  Best Wishes,
   
  Phil Latter

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You're welcome!
=A0
Phil

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thanks Phil!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Phil Latter=20
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Scarce Eman appearance?

Folks,

Yesterday, I purchased Eman: Curse Of The Idol, which just came out in spec=
ialty comics stores, that day!

I haven't read it yet, but it looks good!

But what I really wanted to draw your attentions to, is a potentially even =
scarcer Eman appearance comic book that I picked up as a Free Comic Book Da=
y issue, a couple of years ago.

I in fact, did mention this item, before on these groups, but at the time, =
I'd brought it home, read it, then stored it, and could no longer recall th=
e title of it!

Well, I turned it up accidentally, today, while looking for something else.

From Digital Webbing, the title of this FCBD comic book is 'Digital Webbing=
 Jam 2007', with an eman story in it, among other things, that I THINK was =
new at the time!

So, Eman fans, you might want to put this on your Want Lists!

Best Wishes,

Phil Latter

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I hoped to get a copy yesterday but alas my local shop didn't get one=20
in. Groan.

As it turns out, I've got a copy coming in the mail. I was invited to=20
read an advance version of the comic and offer up a letter of comment.=20
So hopefully all the planets lined up correctly and that actually=20
happened. Thanks to Mike Ambrose for recommending me by the way.=20

So yeah. I really would like to see this one in nice glossy paper.

Dean=20


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Dean,
=A0
Like you, I also was invited to write a L.O.C. after viewing and reading an=
 advance copy of Eman: Curse Of The Idol online.
=A0
My L.O.C. was published Eman: Curse Of The Idol, as was yours, if your surn=
ame is Webb. Which, if memory serves, I think it is.
=A0
There were also L.O.C.s in the issue by writers Mike Ambrose himself, comic=
s writer Ron Fortier, Mike Curtis, and Brian K. Morris, and our very own Ra=
mon Schenk.
=A0
All in all, another nice new Eman comic from Digital Webbing!
=A0
My local specialty comics store only got in two copies, so I was pretty hap=
py that I was there when the shipment was being put out! Otherwise, I would=
 likely have missed getting a chance to buy this issue!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Scarce Eman appearance?
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Received: Friday, January 16, 2009, 7:47 AM






I hoped to get a copy yesterday but alas my local shop didn't get one=20
in. Groan.

As it turns out, I've got a copy coming in the mail. I was invited to=20
read an advance version of the comic and offer up a letter of comment.=20
So hopefully all the planets lined up correctly and that actually=20
happened. Thanks to Mike Ambrose for recommending me by the way.=20

So yeah. I really would like to see this one in nice glossy paper.

Dean=20

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Thanks for the confirmation. It's a pleasure to have my LOC in such=20
robust company. I'm looking forward to seeing this issue in the real=20
world, and not just the virtual one.=20

Dean (Webb)


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No Problem, Dean!
It's a fun, fun issue!
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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Thanks for the confirmation. It's a pleasure to have my LOC in such=20
robust company. I'm looking forward to seeing this issue in the real=20
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I just got a copy in the mail! New E-Man on actual paper in my hands!=20
It's very exciting! Wahooo!

I still want to buy a copy or two to support the effort and make way=20
for more of this Cuti-Staton goodness. I'll perhaps get some for=20
friends of mine.=20

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Subject: Love and Romance #6
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Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:53 AM

 Darci -

   Could you please look to see if you recorded the editor on this? One of the
other GCD editors has told me that issue #5 as Gentile, while #7 has Wildman. 
It would be great to know just where the change occured.

Thanks - Don
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Darci,
=A0
Just to add to your very good point, about the fact that Marvel, by=A0the 1=
960's, by that time considered=A0the original Clay Harder Two-Gun Kid to be=
 a 'fictional' character, once the second Two-Gun Kid had been introduced, =
alias attorney Matt Hawk, had been introduced...this 'fact' was only even m=
entioned once, in a single line mouthed by the Matt Hawk Two-Gun Kid, in Tw=
o-Gun Kid # 60, Matt Hawk/-Two-Gun Kid's first appearance.
He said that he 'thought' (thus, he wasn't sure) that the (Clay Harder) Two=
-Gun Kid was a fictional character in old dime novels EG: dime novels were =
the western novels, predecessor for paperback books, in the mid to late 180=
0's.
=A0
Now then: without the Clay Harder first Two-Gun Kid version, there never wo=
uld have been a Matt Hawk (second) Two-Gun Kid version.
=A0
Secondly, the late Timely/- Atlas (predecessor to Marvel Comics Group) arti=
st Joe Maneely, who, as I mentioned,=A0so very tragically died very young, =
as the result of a=A0tragic fall onto a subway platform in the late 1950's =
in front of an oncoming subway train.....he was a very highly-skilled artis=
t, on the order of (for example) Russ Heath or Doug Wildey, with highly del=
ineated and detailed art, pencils and inks.
=A0
My point is, to refer to the first Two-Gun Kid as 'fiction', is in my polit=
e opinion, kind of disrespectful to the memory of Joe Maneely. But hey, tha=
t's my opinion.
=A0
Besides, when you get right down to it, for a fictional character to refer =
to his predecessor with the same name, 'Two-Gun Kid', as a fictional charac=
ter 'who appeared in 1800's dime novels' (which isn't even true; the Clay H=
arder Two-Gun Kid was in comic books), .....well, that is just plain silly.=
=A0All of these characters are completely fictional, including the comic bo=
ok character=A0mouthing the words=A0from the story's writer, Stan Lee, that=
 his predecessor was fictional, it all therefore, comes off to me as just p=
lain hysterically silly funny! =A0
=A0
Besides, while I have an enormous, lifetime respect for Stan Lee, and I hav=
e done so for over 40 years, the fact is that the 1950's Clay Harder Two-Gu=
n Kid stories, not just in his own title, but also in various other 1950's =
Atlas western comic books where the character appeared, were MUCH-better cr=
afted than the later, second Matt Hawk Two-Gun Kid stories were!
=A0
Now, this said, I like both, and while I collect both versions with that na=
me,=A0I'm even more of a fan of the original character with that name, Clay=
 Harder.=20
=A0
I am thus hopeful that the owner/-moderator of this yahoo group will please=
 consider the original Two-Gun Kid, Clay Harder, for inclusion in future ro=
le playing scenarios. I wouldn't mind at some point playing that character =
myself, the original, 'classic' Two-Gun Kid.
=A0
This reminds me very much of how DC Comics, after they purchased the legal =
rights and legal ownership of the 1960's Steve Ditko Captain Action, they s=
tated that the original silver age adventures of Captain Atom, (which were =
light years much, much better than the DC later completely different versio=
n of Captain Atom).......the DC version mouthed the words that the original=
 adventures of Captain Atom (Charlton Comics) never, ever happened. They we=
re, instead, lies the DC Captain Atom told the public; basically, tall tale=
s told to the public by the DC Captain Atom IN those DC Captain Atom comics=
!
=A0
How's that for a parallel to how the silver age second Two-Gun Kid referred=
 to his 'predecessor'-?
=A0
EG: those Charlton Captain Atom adventures were a zillion times BETTER than=
 the DC Captain Atom adventures, but hey, nonetheless, the Charlton version=
s never happened, it was all fiction.......as told by a fictional character=
!
=A0
Sigh.=20
=A0
Very Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter
=A0


--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Western-Heroes-PBEM] Clarifying the Atlas 1950's Rawhide Kid,=
 Two-Gun Kid and their 1960's forward counterparts...and Phil Latter's choi=
ces!
To: Western-Heroes-PBEM@yahoogroups.com
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Phil, Ken,
Well, if Steve Englehart can come up with a plot to accomodate the Two Gun =
Kid working with the Avengers, I don't see why David can't accomodate both =
Kids?=A0 In current Marvel continuity, Clay Harder is supposed to be a fict=
ional character but those dime novels might have been based on a real Kid.=
=A0 Matt might enjoy meeting his idol.=A0 What do you think, David?
Darci

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Western-Heroes- PBEM] Clarifying the Atlas 1950's Rawhide Kid=
, Two-Gun Kid and their 1960's forward counterparts. ..and Phil Latter's ch=
oices!
To: Western-Heroes- PBEM@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 6:46 AM









Hi Ken,
=A0
I'm actually a big fan of BOTH Two-Gun Kid characters, from the 1950's Atla=
s, and later Marvel.
=A0
I always wished the two different Two-Gun Kid characters had met in a story=
, but of course, unfortunately, that never happened! Sigh.
=A0
The original Clay Harder Two-Gun Kid, many, if not most of them, were illus=
trated by the late, multi-talented Joe Maneely!
=A0
Unfortunately, in the late 1960's, he died very, very tragically, while sti=
ll a young man, falling onto the tracks of an approaching subway train!
=A0
His wife never, ever got over it, and she never remarried!
So sad!
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Ken Flynn <buckaroo_57@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ken Flynn <buckaroo_57@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Western-Heroes- PBEM] Clarifying the Atlas 1950's Rawhide Kid=
, Two-Gun Kid and their 1960's forward counterparts. ..and Phil Latter's ch=
oices!
To: Western-Heroes- PBEM@yahoogroups .com
Received: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 2:44 PM








Hi Phil,
=A0 I was thinking of the Matt Hawk one, didn't know about the other... I w=
as born in '57 and remember the 60's comics somewhat... basically as long a=
s the character has 2 pistols I am ok with any!

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Western-Heroes- PBEM] Clarifying the Atlas 1950's Rawhide Kid, Tw=
o-Gun Kid and their 1960's forward counterparts. ..and Phil Latter's choice=
s!
To: Western-Heroes- PBEM@yahoogroups .com
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 7:54 PM









David,
=A0
To answer your question about the following characters, The Atlas (1950's) =
Two-Gun Kid was a blond guy, Clay Harder.
He wore an all black or dark blue outfit with the same coloured hat. He app=
eared in Two-Gun Kid # 1 through # 59, and in various other Altas comics as=
 well, in the 1950's. He did not wear a mask. His identity was publicly kno=
wn.
=A0
From Two-Gun Kid # 60 through # 133 (I think that was the last issue), it w=
as a completely different character. This second Two-Gun Kid was a masked c=
haracter in a different outfit, with brown hair. He was attorney at law Mat=
t Hawk.
=A0
By the way,=A0Two-Gun Kid # 60, (I own an original copy), acquired last yea=
r at a comics convention), with the second Two-Gun Kid, oddly, that story w=
as actually a REPRINT of Clay Harder's origin, sort - of, but with a mask d=
rawn on the character, and the outfit changed, and dialogue all changed.=20
Very strange!
=A0
The Atlas 1950's Rawhide Kid and the Marvel early 1960's forward Rawhide Ki=
d are basically the same character.
=A0
Hoping this clarifies.
=A0
I'm guessing that Ken wants the silver age versions, but I shouldn't speak =
for him.
=A0
As for me, my choices are The Outlaw Kid and El Diablo.=20
=A0
(If I could have three choices I'd add=A0The Black Rider. But I shouldn't b=
e greedy!)
=A0
I was originally - after Zorro was vetoed (and I understand the reasons for=
 that) going to choose El Diablo and Black Rider, but I just gotta admit, I=
 like the Outlaw Kid more than The Black Rider, and that's saying something=
, cuz I like The Black Rider a lot!
=A0
So, to sum up: Phil Latter's choices: The Outlaw Kid (Atlas 1950's outfit, =
not the 1970's Marvel recolouring of the same outfit), and El Diablo! Yes s=
ir! Just wait till you rannies haveta slap leather with the demonic El Diab=
lo, the costumed Lazarus Lane and his demon horse!
Whoo-hah!
=A0
I paid a lot for my vintage 1950's Atlas Outlaw Kid # 1! And, it was worth =
every penny! Alias Lance Temple!
=A0
Thanks!
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, David McMahon <dmcmahon@nc. rr.com> wrote:

From: David McMahon <dmcmahon@nc. rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Western-Heroes- PBEM] Character Selection Now Officially Open=
-choose TWO
To: Western-Heroes- PBEM@yahoogroups .com
Received: Monday, January 26, 2009, 5:01 PM




Choices so far:

Glen - Lash LaRue
Durango Kid

Ken - Two Gun Kid=20
Rawhide Kid

Jon - Nighthawk
Harmony Hayes

TheHancocks - Bat Lash
Johnny Thunder

Ken, are you talking the Atlas version of your choices or the Marvel=20
version? I'm not too much up on those guys but I think there are some=20
differences. Phil Latter could probably tell us what they are if no one=20
else can.

I will close the selection sometime on Sunday and try to come up with=20
the blurb for it that day. So everyone has a few days to get online and=20
look over the strips on their characters and decide to stick with them=20
or choose someone else.

Also for those who might have played this kind of game before, I, as GM,=20
will pick a character to run in the adventure with you to help the story=20
move along without taking a overriding role in it.

David







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DC just is admitting that a fictional character can tell way better=20
stories than their real-world writers. I'm not angry necessarily that=20
they did that, but it does seem a needless complication. It's an=20
indication that the guys at DC at the time were ashamed of the work=20
done in the 60's. Boy they just didn't get it did they? That's kinda'=20
sad.=20

Dean

> =A0
> EG: those Charlton Captain Atom adventures were a zillion times=20
BETTER than the DC Captain Atom adventures, but hey, nonetheless, the=20
Charlton versions never happened, it was all fiction.......as told by a=20
fictional character!
> =A0



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Charlton Comics produced a lot of licensed material over the decades.=20
In late 1971 they put out the first issue of Primus, a comic adapted=20
from the Ivan Tors TV series of the same name starring Robert Brown.=20
The first issue is dated February 1972 and is edited by Sal Gentile,=20
written by Joe Gill and features the artwork of newcomer Joe Staton.=20

The first story is titled "Double Dealers" and begins with Carter=20
Primus (who we are told invented DASH (Deep Sea Habitat), PUP (Primus=20
Underwater Propulsion Vehicle) and SSS (Sonar Signal System), a rich=20
adventurer who travels the world battling evil and the natural world.=20
We see him on the first page swimming between a beautiful girl and a=20
great white shark which he kills. Then they get to her yacht and he=20
finds out she's Lady Lydia Mabry the widow of Sir David Mabry. She is=20
assissted by a suspicious fellow named Nikki Le Fleche. Carter is=20
treated to a meal then sent packing as the yacht leaves Portuguese=20
waters. But he discovers first that the dumping of garbage from the=20
boat at Le Fleche's orders is what likely drew the shark to begin=20
with. He then flys to Marseilles and there finds out that Sir David=20
and Le Fleche were partners in cocaine smuggling but that Lady Mabry=20
seems not to be aware of that. Primus again meets up with her and=20
gets aboard the yacht but when he is taken to the secret hold by Le=20
Fleche who wants to ambush him, he strikes first and quickly=20
dispatches the villains saving Lady Mabry from murder and the world=20
from the poisonous drug.=20

The second story is titled "A Ring to Remember" and introduces us to=20
Eizabeth Ryan and Richard Howden a super-rich and notoriously=20
tempestuous couple of actors. Elizabeth throws here million-dollar=20
ring off the boat in a huff and Primus who is on the spot dives to=20
retrieve it when Richard says he'll give $100,000 to charity for the=20
effort. But a shark stops his attempt and Primus has the captain mark=20
the spot. News of the ring's fate has reached shore and other fortune=20
hunters show up. Primus battes them and a really big shark (which he=20
blows up) and snags the ring. But it turns out that ring was a fake=20
and Elizabeth had known all along. Richard throws her into the water=20
but all is forgiven in the final panel.=20

Next up is a text story titled "Meet The Human Fish". It tells of=20
Professor John Wilmore a man with both lungs and gills from birth.=20
The story esentially relates how he was born and trained by his=20
father to embrace his nature. He now keeps his identity hidden under=20
a flesh collar and very long hair, but uses his underwater=20
capabilities to do good in the world working as a government agent.=20

The final story is titled "The First Man of the Sea" and this time we=20
find Primus already fighting underwater against a sabateour who is=20
attempting to plant a bomb aboard a submarine. Meanwhile in outer=20
space a capsule prepares for splashdown when it malfunctions forcing=20
the American spaceman to ditch in the Soviet Union. Carter Primus is=20
contacted and flies to the location to rescue the astronaut which he=20
does after battling agents of the Soviets.=20

These are surprisingly good tight little adventures. Joe Gill's=20
scripts are efficient and effective. Joe Staton's artwork is vivid=20
though it is apparent he's had some help on the artwork. I assume it=20
was touched up in the offices after it was turned in. It's possible=20
that Staton was just evoking the feel of other artists, but I detect=20
the style of Jim Aparo in places as well as a hint of Wayne Howard in=20
spots. Primus comes across as a capable and likeable hero in these=20
stories. There is a sense of the time with the Liz and Dick feud=20
finding its way into a story. These stories don't have the two other=20
regular characters from the TV show, so it's likely that Gill was=20
working from incomplete materials to meet the lead time on the comic=20
when he constructed the script.=20

Neat comic. More to come.=20=20



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The second issue of Primus from Charlton Comics features another=20
photo cover of Robert Brown, the star of the TV show on which the=20
comic is based. The editor is Sal Gentile with Joe Gill on scripts=20
and Joe Staton again on the art chores, though this time it seems he=20
had some significant help in the inking.=20

The first story is titled "Where Killers Meet" and it begins with=20
Carter Primus in the Ross Sea testing new heated scuba gear or the=20
U.S. Navy and subsequently being attacked by a sperm whale. He sends=20
a message to his partners aboard his boat Inca, Charlie Whitman and=20
Toni, who find themselves surrounded by whaling ships. A woman diver=20
goes to assist Primus who is suffering from a crashing sonic wave=20
emanating from the ships. She leads him up and he meets Adam Karkel,=20
a man intent on hunting and killing the whales for the products they=20
will yield. Charlie and Toni escape due to a fog while Primus is=20
imprisoned aboard the ship. His female savior, named Magda explains=20
the plan of Karkel and his partner Ludkin, an oceanographer, which is=20
to harvest as many of the protected sperm whales as they can. Karkel=20
appears and Primus lures him close to the cell and knocks him out and=20
takes the keys. He and Magda escape in scuba gear and come under=20
fire. Meanwhile Charlie and Toni have returned pick up Magda and then=20
following orders leave Primus to plant small bombs on the propellers=20
of whale killer ships. He does this despite being attacked by a herd=20
of whales driven mad by the sonic device of Ludkin. Primus survives,=20
disables the fleet, and gets his kiss from the grateful Magda much to=20
Toni's chagrin.=20

Next we have a text story titled "Red Tide" starring The Human Fish.=20
This time John Willmore, a man born with both gills and lungs finds=20
his way to the Gulf of Mexico where red organisms are choking out the=20
normal chain of life. He finds the source, a strange coral and uses=20
flame throwers supplied by the military to destroy the the source,=20
thus cleansing the sea.=20

The second and final Primus story is titled "East of Aden" and it=20
begins with Primus fighting a crocodile in the Gulf of Aden. He wires=20
the beast's jaws shut and goes topside to find out from Toni that the=20
local sheik demands his presence. Primus find Shiek Al Habim, an=20
insufferable man, aboard his yacht when there is an explosion sending=20
it and its wealth to the bottom. Primus is contracted to retrieve the=20
riches but encounters many others, the poor robbed of their fair=20
share of Habim's wealth already raiding the boat. Primus is moved by=20
their fate and assists them which ultimately leads to Habim being=20
deposed and replaced as leader by a much fairer government. Primus=20
spends his last panel luxuriating in a harem of grateful ladies.=20

These are really solid stories, especially the lead one. The villain=20
is well defined as is the threat. The second story with Primus is a=20
bit rushed and the storytelling is clumsy in a few places but that's=20
doubtless because so much story was crammed into very few pages.=20
Staton's artwork here is very good, but clearly he's being inked=20
heavily. I can't really tell who it is, though I see hints of Tony=20
Tallarico in a few places. It's not him I think, but that's the feel=20
it has.=20

More next time.=20



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Dean,
=A0
Primus is one of the titles I collect, also. I buy them the odd time I find=
 them in back issue bins. I've been trying to put a set of them together fo=
r decades, but thus far, I only have # 2,3, and 7. They're not easy to find=
, for some reason, but I always enjoy reading them the odd time (extremely =
seldom) when I come across one.
=A0
I never saw nor even heard of the TV series it was based on.
=A0
How short lived was it, and was the main actor in it in anything else?
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Primus Reports #2
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The second issue of Primus from Charlton Comics features another=20
photo cover of Robert Brown, the star of the TV show on which the=20
comic is based. The editor is Sal Gentile with Joe Gill on scripts=20
and Joe Staton again on the art chores, though this time it seems he=20
had some significant help in the inking.=20

The first story is titled "Where Killers Meet" and it begins with=20
Carter Primus in the Ross Sea testing new heated scuba gear or the=20
U.S. Navy and subsequently being attacked by a sperm whale. He sends=20
a message to his partners aboard his boat Inca, Charlie Whitman and=20
Toni, who find themselves surrounded by whaling ships. A woman diver=20
goes to assist Primus who is suffering from a crashing sonic wave=20
emanating from the ships. She leads him up and he meets Adam Karkel,=20
a man intent on hunting and killing the whales for the products they=20
will yield. Charlie and Toni escape due to a fog while Primus is=20
imprisoned aboard the ship. His female savior, named Magda explains=20
the plan of Karkel and his partner Ludkin, an oceanographer, which is=20
to harvest as many of the protected sperm whales as they can. Karkel=20
appears and Primus lures him close to the cell and knocks him out and=20
takes the keys. He and Magda escape in scuba gear and come under=20
fire. Meanwhile Charlie and Toni have returned pick up Magda and then=20
following orders leave Primus to plant small bombs on the propellers=20
of whale killer ships. He does this despite being attacked by a herd=20
of whales driven mad by the sonic device of Ludkin. Primus survives,=20
disables the fleet, and gets his kiss from the grateful Magda much to=20
Toni's chagrin.=20

Next we have a text story titled "Red Tide" starring The Human Fish.=20
This time John Willmore, a man born with both gills and lungs finds=20
his way to the Gulf of Mexico where red organisms are choking out the=20
normal chain of life. He finds the source, a strange coral and uses=20
flame throwers supplied by the military to destroy the the source,=20
thus cleansing the sea.=20

The second and final Primus story is titled "East of Aden" and it=20
begins with Primus fighting a crocodile in the Gulf of Aden. He wires=20
the beast's jaws shut and goes topside to find out from Toni that the=20
local sheik demands his presence. Primus find Shiek Al Habim, an=20
insufferable man, aboard his yacht when there is an explosion sending=20
it and its wealth to the bottom. Primus is contracted to retrieve the=20
riches but encounters many others, the poor robbed of their fair=20
share of Habim's wealth already raiding the boat. Primus is moved by=20
their fate and assists them which ultimately leads to Habim being=20
deposed and replaced as leader by a much fairer government. Primus=20
spends his last panel luxuriating in a harem of grateful ladies.=20

These are really solid stories, especially the lead one. The villain=20
is well defined as is the threat. The second story with Primus is a=20
bit rushed and the storytelling is clumsy in a few places but that's=20
doubtless because so much story was crammed into very few pages.=20
Staton's artwork here is very good, but clearly he's being inked=20
heavily. I can't really tell who it is, though I see hints of Tony=20
Tallarico in a few places. It's not him I think, but that's the feel=20
it has.=20

More next time.=20

















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Robert Brown is likely most famous as the eldest son of the Seven=20
Brides for Seven Brothers. He also showed up in an episode of Star=20
Trek, the one about the guy who is locked in mortal combat with an anti-
matter version of himself.=20

There's remarkably little information about Primus the TV show online.=20
It last one year and was independently distributed by Ivan Tors to fill=20
time for the then newly created time slot made available for local=20
broadcasting between 7 pm and 8 pm. I vaguely remember watching some=20
episodes when it was on, but aside from a small snippet at Youtube,=20
I've not seen any of the shows or parts of them in decades.=20

I've linked up the Youtube episode in the Links section.=20

Enjoy.

Dean :)


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Here's that Primus link I was talking about. Let me try it out here and=20
see if it works.=20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9LGHkhD_GwA


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Let me correct something I said earlier. Robert Brown's not in the 1954=20
movie, but is in a TV show called "Here Come The Brides". Here's a link=20
with lots of stuff about him, and about Primus. There's even a gallery=20
of Primus covers autographed by Brown.=20

Cool.

Here's the link:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0542l/robertbrownprimus.htm


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The third issue of Charlton's Primus features a very dynamic photo=20
cover of Robert Brown as Carter Primus. Again in this issue we have=20
Sal Gentile as the editor, Joe Gill as the scripter, and Joe Staton=20
as the artist. And this time the art does look more like pure=20
unadulterated Staton, though I still detect the hand of some=20
assistance, especially in the first story.

The first story is titled "The Deadly Pay-Off" and in it we encounter=20
for the first time, the Orca -- the sophisticated floating laboratory=20
of Carter Primus. The story begins as Primus and his assistant Toni=20
are under attack by two masked men and one knocks Primus out. He and=20
Toni take the Orca out at high speed in pursuit and encounter the=20
giant yacht of Paul Kadopolis the richest Greek in the world. They=20
immediately come under attack by a large gun and they leave. It's=20
soon revealed that Kadopolis wants to take possession of a Primus=20
invention, the Triple D Unit which will allow the oil magnate to find=20
oil in the Lake Zeno and his time for finding that oil is dwindling=20
so he's desperate. He's offered to buy it from Primus but was refused=20
and now he wants no matter how. The next day a helicopter appears and=20
while Primus is below the sea they kidnap Toni. Primus agrees to help=20
Kadopolis and the Orca is airlifted to Lake Zeno and Primus is put in=20
a cell while Toni pretends to make friends with Kadopolis. Primus=20
takes his equipment down to find the oil but tricks Kadopolis and his=20
henchmen with a radio trick and gets the drop on them, saving Toni=20
and pitching Kadopolis overboard. The authorities agree to help=20
Primus return the Orca to Florida.=20

The text piece is another The Human Fish story. This one is=20
title "Mini-Sub Missing" and Professor John Wilmore, a man with both=20
gills and lungs is called upon to find two missing men trapped=20
beneath the sea in a mini-sub. He spends many hours looking but at=20
last is able to locate them and they are saved with only hours of air=20
remaining. His date is impressed.

The second and last Primus story is titled "In to the Darkness" and=20
it finds Primus at the ballet enjoying the talent of defected Soviet=20
ballerina Irina Lukhov. He stops an assassin from shooting her but is=20
himself taken down by her tardy bodyguards. U.S agent Folsom=20
apologizes but then only minutes later in a car he and others reveal=20
themselves as double agents and kidnap both Primus and Lukhov and=20
take then across the Brandenburg Gate into Russian territory. He is=20
put in a cell but escapes and after much gunplay he and Irina are=20
able to escape by using a canal that takes them across the border=20
again, as Primus cleverly uses his shirt as a decoy. Later Irina is=20
very appreciative.=20

And that's yet another issue of Primus. With this issue we get the=20
Orca, another bit of Primus lore revealed. And there is a real trend=20
developing with Primus standing up to both venile capitalists and=20
communists.=20

More next time.=20



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I too collect Primus. Never saw an episode either. Rip do you mind if I use your synompsis on the GCD indexes?

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That's fine by me. Are they appropriate for that site? I'd think they=20
were too detailed given what else I've seen there. If they'll accept=20
it, I'd love to have my work show up there.=20

Dean=20


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The fourth issue of Primus features a very colorful use of photos,=20
specifically two different pictures of Robert Brown blended with=20
artwork and lettering to make a rather offbeat image. This issue is=20
again edited by Sal Gentile, with scripting by Joe Gill and Joe=20
Staton is again on the art duties.=20

The first story is titled "The Curse of the Killer Reef" and it opens=20
with a bang literally as Carter Primus and a woman named Carla are=20
being attacked by two thugs, one of whom shoots at Primus. Police=20
sirens drive them off and Primus and Carla get on with their dinner=20
plans but he soon learns she's a woman needing help getting a=20
treasure of stolen gold off the sea floor of the South American coast=20
off the coast of Punta Del Este. She wants to retrieve it for the=20
good of her people and keep it away from the dictator Adolfo Ruiz.=20
Primus agrees to help. His aides Charlie Whitman and Toni aren't too=20
sure about it, but Primus nonetheless heads off to find the gold. He=20
dives into some dangerous waters filled with sharks and barracuda=20
which he drives off with a spear gun. Locating the wreck he comes=20
under attack by two divers hired by Ruiz to stop him and get the=20
gold. He fights them off but then Ruiz shoots a machine gun into the=20
water wounding his own men and driving the barracuda into a frenzy.=20
Primus saves the men, and is stranded below, but Charlie and Toni=20
show up in the nick of time and save the day.

The Human Fish text story is titled "Sea Lion Security" and it finds=20
Professor John Wilmore, the man with both lungs and gills, called=20
upon to solve a problem for the Navy. It seems they use sea lions to=20
find and retrieve top secret deep sea devices designed to stop enemy=20
subs. The sea lions cannot it seems retrieve them 100% of the time=20
and the Navy can't find the problem. Wilmore descends and ultimately=20
finds it's the the fault of the signal and not the sea lions, solving=20
the Navy problem.=20

The second Primus story is titled "No Trouble at All" and it opens=20
with Primus riding a motorbike across the beach dunes and coming=20
across a beautiful blonde painting seascapes. She complains that=20
she's being harrassed by three hoodlums (who look not unlike the gang=20
from Easy Rider in some respects). Primus himself finds trouble with=20
the trio who tell him to leave the area. He doesn't, instead uses his=20
plane to locate their shack. That night inflitrates the gang's shack=20
but is captured and it turns out his presence and that of the girl=20
threaten a drug smuggling operation. The next day the gang shoots at=20
Charlie Whitman and Toni and they leave the area, but then Primus=20
escapes and Charlie and Toni return and the drug runners are=20
captured.=20

It's amazing how different Joe Staton's work is from story to story.=20
I'm assuming either he's playing with his style, still trying to find=20
the right mix or more likely he's getting help from other Charlton=20
artists. This issue is offers two really different styles, but both=20
are reasonably effective. The storytelling is again suspect in the=20
second story, but again it seems to be a function of the small page=20
count.=20

More to come.=20





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The fifth issue of Primus from Charlton offers up a change in=20
direction for the book. It features a blended cover image, made up of=20
a photo of Robert Brown and for the first time artwork featuring both=20
Primus and Charlie Whitman. I can't identify the artist, but it=20
doesn't seem to be Joe Staton. This issue once again features scripts=20
by the ubiquitous Joe Gill and artwork by Joe Staton who seems much=20
more himself this time out. The new guy on the book is George Wildman=20
who takes over as editor of this book and the Charlton line as a=20
whole.=20

Whether by design or coincidence, the first story is a real departure=20
for Primus. It's titled "The Fire People" and Part I begins with=20
Carter Primus and Charlie flying over a volcano in a small nameless=20
country. It seems there's a debate about putting a new dam at the=20
site and there's a debate about the ecological impact.=20
We meet Ambassador Bascombe and the guy who wants the new dam named=20
Mr.Wexford. Bascombe has sent for Primus and his team to do what we=20
call an "ecological impact study" these days. His report will decide=20
the issue. Primus heads out underwater and finds a warm lava tube=20
that seems to lead elsewhere when someone slides a rock on him. Toni=20
rescues him and then they hear that Bascombe is missing. On the=20
second dive they go together but separate after finding huge statues=20
indicating a submerged culture. Almost immediately Primus is attacked=20
and captured and taken inside the volcano where a city is hidden on=20
the interior rim. He finds Bascombe and meets King Nikan and his=20
daughter named Yula tells Primus about their culture and how they=20
choose to live apart from the modern world.

In Part II titled "The Test" Primus is to be judged in classic trial-
by-combat style and he is pitted against a giant of a another race=20
that lives alongside Nikan's people who have become more attuned to=20
living in the sea. After a long battle Primus defeats his opponent=20
and later they make their pitch for the dam to the King and his=20
daughter. Meanwhile Charlie and Toni look for Primus using a plane=20
and Charlie finds the hidden city and parachutes into the volcano.=20
The people of the city have been getting increasingly angry and the=20
danger is real for Primus and Bascombe, but then Charlie appears and=20
with Yula's help they find their scuba gear and escape. Over dinner=20
Primus tells Yula that they can move the dam to another location and=20
she gives him a kiss.

The Human Fish story this time is titled "Screams of Salvation" and=20
it finds the man with both lungs and gills, Professor John Wilmore=20
asked to find a solution to dolphins getting caught in tuna nets. He=20
does some research with sharks, records their sounds and uses those=20
recordings to keep the dolphins clear of the danger. In this story=20
Wilmore seems to actually communicate with fish telepathically. In=20
earlier stories he's seemed to understand them, but this might the=20
first time he's communicated with them.=20

The second Primus story is titled "The Crown of Minos" and it finds=20
Primus and Toni diving in the Agean Sea in the sunken palace of King=20
Minos. They find other divers and trouble when they turn out to be=20
pirates. They meet a man named Pierre LaPerche, the leader of the=20
gang and he holds Toni hostage so that Primus will bring him the=20
Crown of Minos. Charlie aboard the Orca tries to help but is driven=20
away by gunfire. Primus agrees to the deal and dives finding many=20
threats such as an octopus and more deadly still Moray eels. Primus=20
finds the crown but uses to eels to trip up LaPerche's men and heads=20
to the surface to save Toni. But she needs no saving as she's already=20
knocked out LaPerche and has radioed the Coast Guard to come take the=20
pirates away. They turn the crown over to the government but Toni is=20
unimpressed by the still dingy and muck-encrusted treasure.=20

All in all a rich and engaging issue all the way through. The=20
adventures seem more wide ranging and the fantasy elements are driven=20
up a bit. I can only assume this is the editorial hand of Wildman=20
expressing itself.=20

More next time.=20




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The sixth issue of Primus is the second with George Wildman as=20
editor. And apparently a shift was made away from photo covers, and=20
finally Joe Staton is allowed to do his own distinctive cover for the=20
book. Joe is still the artist in charge and Joe Gill is still the=20
scripter of record.=20

The first Primus story is titled "Death is Waiting" and it begins=20
with Primus under attack by mysterious scuba men. He fends them off=20
and keeps a mysterious canister he'd found attached to a buoy in the=20
sea. On board the Orca he and Toni get the canister unlocked and find=20
Heroin. The Orca comes under attack using a bazooka and Primus is=20
forced to surrender. He gives the canister to a sinister looking=20
oriental we come to find is named Yang and Primus is knocked out. He=20
awakes to find himself tied up and the Orca rigged to explode. He=20
escapes and gets rid of the bomb and after finding a location from=20
Charlie by radio sets off to find Yang and the kidnapped Toni.=20

Part II is titled "Dealers in Quiet Death" and it begins with the=20
leering Yang analyzing his heroin and taunting Toni. Primus swims=20
ashore and is detected almost immediately. He is captured taken to=20
Yang who surprisingly offers him his life and Toni's if he'll deliver=20
the heroin and bring back the seven million dollars it will yield.=20
Primus agrees and while Toni stays behind he goes to the rendevous=20
but slips a bomb into the drugs which demolishes the plane and=20
presumably the pilot. Primus takes the money back to Yang but gets=20
the jump on him and he and Toni capture the gang. Toni rewards Primus=20
with big wet kiss.

This issue's Human Fish story doesn't have a title, but it involves=20
Professor John Wilmore in a daring rescue of some trapped workers=20
trapped in a tunnel in the East River after an explosion. He works to=20
save them and even has to make one last daring swim to save a man who=20
has gotten seperated from the others. His girl impressed she offers=20
him breakfast.=20

The second Primus story is titled "A Weapon Used to Kill Whom?" and=20
it begins with Primus finding a .38 Magnum while seaching for stolen=20
jewels in a dirty canal. Two thugs named Ralph Rinkler and Dixie Galt=20
who threw it away see him retrieve it and seek to get it back. Ralph=20
attacks Primus that night but Primus manages to throw him into the=20
canal. The next day Primus and Toni give the gun to police and learn=20
that Ralph works for Galt and both of them work for a gambling bigwig=20
named Marvin Schwartz. Primus goes to the estate of Frenchy Smith a=20
rival criminal and finds him dead by gunshot wound. Galt shows up=20
with a gun, but Primus escapes ultimately by tricking the gang into=20
driving their boat into shallow water. Meanwhile Toni has found the=20
jewels. Later the pair smooch in a local resturant.=20

The style Joe Staton uses in this issue is really beginning to=20
develop into the style we're accustomed to from him. He's becoming=20
more confident as a storyteller and there's little or no evidence of=20
another artist touching his work up. This is solid issue.=20

One more to come.



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This is the last issue of Charlton's Ivan Tors' Primus adaptation.=20
George Wildman is the editor and for one last time Joe Gill handles=20
the scripts and Joe Staton is the artist. Joe also did the rather=20
exciting cover, the only Primus cover to actually have some=20
significant action on it. Also I should finally mention that=20
Charlotte Jetter is the letterer on this issue and has been for all=20
the Primus comics.=20

The first story is titled "Crisis at 40 Fathoms" and once again we=20
start with a real splash page (pun intended) underwater with=20
Primus under attack by scuba divers but this time it's an out-of-
sequence scene and the story actually begins aboard the Orca with=20
Toni and Primus talking about a difficult salvage dive. He offers to=20
take her to dinner at a swanky place called "The Glades" and next we=20
are at the nightclub. An entertainer, a many named Richard N. Mixon=20
is the headliner and he's a comedian who mimics the famous ex-
President (who was still in office at this time of course). Two=20
gunsels though walk away with Mixon after his show and Primus gets=20
suspicious, goes back stage and is gets a karate chop to the back of=20
the neck. Toni finds him and they call the White House about the=20
situation. Later Charlie Whitman gives Primus a call that the=20
international phone cable has gone out and the government wants=20
Primus to check it out. He agrees and soon the deceptively swift=20
houseboat/lab the Orca is racing to the scene. But it seems already=20
at the site of the break are some divers and a submarine. In the sub=20
are the missing Mixon and another man Panyi who can mimic the Soviet=20
Premier of that day. The villain is a man named Dr.Wylie Forbush (who=20
resembles Sydney Greenstreet more than a little) and his plan is to=20
spark World War III by having these imposters place bogus phone calls=20
to the world leaders. Primus investigates but sees a guy planting a=20
bomb on the Orca and and defuses it. He heads back down to the bottom=20
and confronts the two divers at the sub, but he's shot with a dart=20
and taken aboard. There he learns of Forbush's plan which has been=20
stalled because Mixon refused to participate and has been knocked out=20
under torture. He awakes and causes a disruption that allows Primus=20
to attack the villains and defeat them, and soon enough the=20
authorities arrive to take them into custody. The story ends with an=20
exhausted Primus refusing calls from a thankful White House,=20
preferring the evening with Toni.

The Human Fish story this time is titled "Starfish Trouble" and=20
Professor John Wilmore, the man with both gills and lungs is called=20
upon to solve an ecological disaster. It seems the Crown of Thorns=20
starfish is multiplying in vast numbers and is destroying a coral bed=20
which is lifeline for a group of Pacific islanders. Wilmore=20
investigates and offers the novel solution of buttressing the coral=20
bed with concrete and waiting to see if the burst of starfish=20
population is a natural cycle. It seems it was and the story ends=20
happily.=20

The second Primus story is titled "Saboteur" and begins with Primus=20
investigating what might be cutting fishing nets off the Grand Banks.=20
He finds mysterious scuba divers who get him caught in a net and=20
escape. He goes topside and talks a fisherman named Dan and tells him=20
of the sabotage. Then all of a sudden a large Russian trawler appears=20
and almost swamps the fishing boat. Primus is convinced the Russians=20
have a habitat hidden on the seabed and are causing the trouble, so=20
down he goes again. He finds the habitat and sabotages the air=20
supply. The divers have to call the trawler for help and Primus uses=20
that chance to attach small explosives to the propeller and rudder of=20
the boat, effectively disabling it. The story ends with the Russian=20
captain looking through his binoculars at a waving Primus who wants=20
to make sure they know who won this round. Dan says that Primus=20
is "fantastic" and Primus says he won't argue the point.

And that completes the run. The last panel of Primus waving is a nice=20
goodbye, so it's likely that Joe Gill and Joe Staton knew this was=20
his last Primus story. If not, it's a neat coincidence. Joe Gill's=20
scripts have been solid all through the run. This final issue=20
features Staton in all his glory. There's lots of action and some=20
interesting storytelling angles. It's clear that Primus was a=20
learning experience for Joe Staton who would soon enough strike gold=20
at Charlton alongside Nicola Cuti with E-Man.=20

It's been fun. No more to come.


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Hi all,

I've been organizing my Charlton Comics collection (again) and have weeded =
out a big=20
bunch of duplicates, which I'm offering directly to the list rather than me=
ssing with eBay.=20
Books are priced at 50 percent or less of current OPG. There's over 200 of =
them,=20
something for everybody. Lots of great Ditko, Sutton, Boyette, Morisi, Stat=
on, Cuti, Gill,=20
and many many more.

Here's the list of titles: All American Sports, Army Attack, Attack, Battle=
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the Kid, Blue Beetle (1964), Captain Atom, Charlton Action: Featuring Stati=
c, Charlton=20
Bullseye, D-Day, Doomsday + 1, E-Man, Emergency!, Fightin' Army, Fightin' F=
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Yang.

If interested, contact me off-list.

Best,
Mike
_____________________
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Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
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Subject: Geronimo Jones?
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What's the deal with this comic book? I've never to my memory read an=20
issue, but the covers are attractive. I've seen back issues from time=20
to time, but I remember them being a bit more than I wanted to pay for=20
an unknown entertainment.=20

A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film=20
titled "Geronimo Jones" about a young Native American boy who is=20
discovering himself and his relationship to his traditional culture and=20
the modern world. It's a sweet small film, and the kid looks remarkably=20
like the the hero of the comic (especially that shock of hair) but the=20
two things don't look that connected in time to me.=20

I see my hero Tony Tallarico was involved with the comic, so I'm going=20
to have to give a closer look.=20

What's the story here? Can anyone enlighten me.=20

Thanks.=20

Dean


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I've never heard of anyone actually being a fan of Tony Tallarico,=A0 altho=
ugh his work does on occasion have its own kind of charm.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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What's the deal with this comic book? I've never to my memory read an=20
issue, but the covers are attractive. I've seen back issues from time=20
to time, but I remember them being a bit more than I wanted to pay for=20
an unknown entertainment.=20

A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film=20
titled "Geronimo Jones" about a young Native American boy who is=20
discovering himself and his relationship to his traditional culture and=20
the modern world. It's a sweet small film, and the kid looks remarkably=20
like the the hero of the comic (especially that shock of hair) but the=20
two things don't look that connected in time to me.=20

I see my hero Tony Tallarico was involved with the comic, so I'm going=20
to have to give a closer look.=20

What's the story here? Can anyone enlighten me.=20

Thanks.=20

Dean

















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I did (do) find Geronimo Jones to have  a certain charm..
   What years did Bill Fraccio ghost pencil for Tallarico?  I suspect
they no longer teamed up by this time.

steven rowe  (who didnt understand Dean's original question)

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never heard of anyone actually being a fan of Tony Tallarico,  although
> his work does on occasion have its own kind of charm.
>
>      Allen Smith
>
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:22 AM
>
> What's the deal with this comic book? I've never to my memory read an
> issue, but the covers are attractive. I've seen back issues from time
> to time, but I remember them being a bit more than I wanted to pay for
> an unknown entertainment.
>
> A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film
> titled "Geronimo Jones" about a young Native American boy who is
> discovering himself and his relationship to his traditional culture and
> the modern world. It's a sweet small film, and the kid looks remarkably
> like the the hero of the comic (especially that shock of hair) but the
> two things don't look that connected in time to me.
>
> I see my hero Tony Tallarico was involved with the comic, so I'm going
> to have to give a closer look.
>
> What's the story here? Can anyone enlighten me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dean
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

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Perhaps one of the crew at Charlton Spotlight would know.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 1:46 PM






I did (do) find Geronimo Jones to have a certain charm..
What years did Bill Fraccio ghost pencil for Tallarico? I suspect
they no longer teamed up by this time.

steven rowe (who didnt understand Dean's original question)

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrot=
e:
> I've never heard of anyone actually being a fan of Tony Tallarico, althou=
gh
> his work does on occasion have its own kind of charm.
>
> Allen Smith
>
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:22 AM
>
> What's the deal with this comic book? I've never to my memory read an
> issue, but the covers are attractive. I've seen back issues from time
> to time, but I remember them being a bit more than I wanted to pay for
> an unknown entertainment.
>
> A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film
> titled "Geronimo Jones" about a young Native American boy who is
> discovering himself and his relationship to his traditional culture and
> the modern world. It's a sweet small film, and the kid looks remarkably
> like the the hero of the comic (especially that shock of hair) but the
> two things don't look that connected in time to me.
>
> I see my hero Tony Tallarico was involved with the comic, so I'm going
> to have to give a closer look.
>
> What's the story here? Can anyone enlighten me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dean
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Yeah. We're a small group, me and the other guy. I think "charm" is=20
the word I'd attach to Tallarico's work and also a great sense of=20
compositon and movement. His work is much like Mike Sekowsky's in=20
many ways, in that it's easy to focus on the sometimes seemingly=20
awkward body shapes at the cost of the larger image telling the=20
story. Tallarico had several styles too, and I'm really impressed by=20
his "A Christmas Carol" in the Charlton Christmas special one-shot.=20
And I must confess, while I can't tell who did what on Blue Beetle, I=20
find that work oddly attractive and inviting despite the hair-brained=20
stories that could erupt.=20


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<metron12001@...> wrote:
>
> I've never heard of anyone actually being a fan of Tony Tallarico,=A0=20
although his work does on occasion have its own kind of charm.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, ripjagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:22 AM
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> issue, but the covers are attractive. I've seen back issues from=20
time=20
> to time, but I remember them being a bit more than I wanted to pay=20
for=20
> an unknown entertainment.=20
>=20
> A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film=20
> titled "Geronimo Jones" about a young Native American boy who is=20
> discovering himself and his relationship to his traditional culture=20
and=20
> the modern world. It's a sweet small film, and the kid looks=20
remarkably=20
> like the the hero of the comic (especially that shock of hair) but=20
the=20
> two things don't look that connected in time to me.=20
>=20
> I see my hero Tony Tallarico was involved with the comic, so I'm=20
going=20
> to have to give a closer look.=20
>=20
> What's the story here? Can anyone enlighten me.=20
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> Thanks.=20
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> Dean
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The key is that Tallarico expressed his personality in his work, which is w=
hat all good artists do.=A0 And, someone must have agreed that he had somet=
hing to offer, as his work appeared in many Silver Age comics.
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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: A Taste For Tallarico!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Yeah. We're a small group, me and the other guy. I think "charm" is=20
the word I'd attach to Tallarico's work and also a great sense of=20
compositon and movement. His work is much like Mike Sekowsky's in=20
many ways, in that it's easy to focus on the sometimes seemingly=20
awkward body shapes at the cost of the larger image telling the=20
story. Tallarico had several styles too, and I'm really impressed by=20
his "A Christmas Carol" in the Charlton Christmas special one-shot.=20
And I must confess, while I can't tell who did what on Blue Beetle, I=20
find that work oddly attractive and inviting despite the hair-brained=20
stories that could erupt.=20

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> I've never heard of anyone actually being a fan of Tony Tallarico,=A0=20
although his work does on occasion have its own kind of charm.
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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Geronimo Jones?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:22 AM
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> A wee bit of internet research has yielded a short film=20
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I often must remind myself and others that comics at the time were written and drawn for ten years. My age at the time. I must admit that some of my favorites of the time happened to be by TT. The Dell Monster Heroes I loved. Granted Fracio may have been the reason but the TT influence is unmistable. TT was always able to tell a story. And remember he was working for Charlton/Late Dell page rates so obviosly working quickly.

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> Rip wrote:

> Yeah. We're a small group, me and the other guy. I think "charm" is
> the word I'd attach to Tallarico's work and also a great sense of
> compositon and movement.









Count me among the Tallarico boosters. The Charlton Christmas one-shot  
was wonderful, as was the All-American Sports one.

I got hooked on his terrific serial (with Joe Gill, naturally)  
following the misadventures of Ken King, "The Most Hated Man on  
Wheels!' in World of Wheels. And I'm quite fond of his kooky Bobby  
Sherman comics. A damn sight better than Don Sherwood's photo tracing  
Partridge Family comics. ;)

And, since someone was asking about Geronimo Jones, it only borrows  
the name of the short film of that name. A *terrific* short film,  
incredibly poignant and nuanced for an educational film, luckily  
produced between two periods of "hit you over the head with the message.

You can watch it on youtube here. It's well worth 20 minutes of your  
time.

The art on Geronimo Jones, the comic, was done by Jose Delbo and Tony  
Tallarico, very much in collaboration, as their contributions shift  
from page to page and issue to issue. Sometimes it's clearly Delbo  
pencils and Tallarico inks, and other times the reverse, with some  
solo Delbo covers and solo Tallarico strips. And so on.

Most highly recommended issue: #6. Just don't peek ahead; there's a  
good reason why the cover doesn't give anything away.

As usual, not for every taste, but then this is Charlton we're  
discussing: I'm really, really fond of the handful of stories  
Tallarico and Fraccio did for the ghost books in 74-75. "The Curse of  
the Vampire" (TMGODG 44), "A Solemn Oath" (GT 118), "Come See Our  
Ghost" (Haunted 16), and "The Reuger Formula" (Haunted 24) . Any  
others I may have missed? (there's a nice solo Tallarico in Ghost  
Manor 15) Anyway, Tallarico inks these with bold (and confident)  
strokes, giving the art a bit of a woodcut look. And F/T's layouts are  
really daring and swirly. Cool, experimental stuff that would not have  
flown with another publisher.

Well, that's my two cents' worth.

Richard



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Thanks for all those tips for more Tallarico. It's nice to meet a=20
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Dean


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I'm in that group also. And let us not forget Tony and Bill's contributions=
 to the Warren=20
mags as "Tony Williamsune"...which at the time they came out were baffling =
but strangely=20
attractive. Tony Tallarico is still alive and still drawing, still publishi=
ng books. His Charlton=20
connection goes way back to the 1950s.

Mike A.

> > Rip wrote:
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> > Yeah. We're a small group, me and the other guy. I think "charm" is
> > the word I'd attach to Tallarico's work and also a great sense of
> > compositon and movement.
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> Count me among the Tallarico boosters. The Charlton Christmas one-shot =
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> was wonderful, as was the All-American Sports one.
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> I got hooked on his terrific serial (with Joe Gill, naturally)=20=20
> following the misadventures of Ken King, "The Most Hated Man on=20=20
> Wheels!' in World of Wheels. And I'm quite fond of his kooky Bobby=20=20
> Sherman comics. A damn sight better than Don Sherwood's photo tracing =
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> Partridge Family comics. ;)
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> produced between two periods of "hit you over the head with the message.
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> You can watch it on youtube here. It's well worth 20 minutes of your=20=20
> time.
>=20
> The art on Geronimo Jones, the comic, was done by Jose Delbo and Tony =
=20
> Tallarico, very much in collaboration, as their contributions shift=20=20
> from page to page and issue to issue. Sometimes it's clearly Delbo=20=20
> pencils and Tallarico inks, and other times the reverse, with some=20=20
> solo Delbo covers and solo Tallarico strips. And so on.
>=20
> Most highly recommended issue: #6. Just don't peek ahead; there's a=20=20
> good reason why the cover doesn't give anything away.
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> As usual, not for every taste, but then this is Charlton we're=20=20
> discussing: I'm really, really fond of the handful of stories=20=20
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> Richard



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Just this past Christmas season I picked up an art kit by him about=20
designing superheroes. It's full of his wonky design work on dozens=20
of original superheroes. Fun and often funny stuff.=20

>
> I'm in that group also. And let us not forget Tony and Bill's=20
contributions to the Warren=20
> mags as "Tony Williamsune"...which at the time they came out were=20
baffling but strangely=20
> attractive. Tony Tallarico is still alive and still drawing, still=20
publishing books. His Charlton=20
> connection goes way back to the 1950s.
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> > > Rip wrote:
> >=20
> > > Yeah. We're a small group, me and the other guy. I=20
think "charm" is
> > > the word I'd attach to Tallarico's work and also a great sense=20
of
> > > compositon and movement.
> >=20
> > Count me among the Tallarico boosters. The Charlton Christmas one-
shot=20=20
> > was wonderful, as was the All-American Sports one.
> >=20
> > I got hooked on his terrific serial (with Joe Gill, naturally)=20=20
> > following the misadventures of Ken King, "The Most Hated Man on=20=20
> > Wheels!' in World of Wheels. And I'm quite fond of his kooky=20
Bobby=20=20
> > Sherman comics. A damn sight better than Don Sherwood's photo=20
tracing=20=20
> > Partridge Family comics. ;)
> >=20
> > And, since someone was asking about Geronimo Jones, it only=20
borrows=20=20
> > the name of the short film of that name. A *terrific* short=20
film,=20=20
> > incredibly poignant and nuanced for an educational film, luckily=20=20
> > produced between two periods of "hit you over the head with the=20
message.
> >=20
> > You can watch it on youtube here. It's well worth 20 minutes of=20
your=20=20
> > time.
> >=20
> > The art on Geronimo Jones, the comic, was done by Jose Delbo and=20
Tony=20=20
> > Tallarico, very much in collaboration, as their contributions=20
shift=20=20
> > from page to page and issue to issue. Sometimes it's clearly=20
Delbo=20=20
> > pencils and Tallarico inks, and other times the reverse, with=20
some=20=20
> > solo Delbo covers and solo Tallarico strips. And so on.
> >=20
> > Most highly recommended issue: #6. Just don't peek ahead; there's=20
a=20=20
> > good reason why the cover doesn't give anything away.
> >=20
> > As usual, not for every taste, but then this is Charlton we're=20=20
> > discussing: I'm really, really fond of the handful of stories=20=20
> > Tallarico and Fraccio did for the ghost books in 74-75. "The=20
Curse of=20=20
> > the Vampire" (TMGODG 44), "A Solemn Oath" (GT 118), "Come See=20
Our=20=20
> > Ghost" (Haunted 16), and "The Reuger Formula" (Haunted 24) . Any=20=20
> > others I may have missed? (there's a nice solo Tallarico in=20
Ghost=20=20
> > Manor 15) Anyway, Tallarico inks these with bold (and confident)=20=20
> > strokes, giving the art a bit of a woodcut look. And F/T's=20
layouts are=20=20
> > really daring and swirly. Cool, experimental stuff that would not=20
have=20=20
> > flown with another publisher.
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> > Well, that's my two cents' worth.
> >=20
> > Richard
>



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I ran across a claim that Voltron, the cartoon character was published=20
by Modern Comics, the same Modern Comics which offered up reprints of=20
Charlton Comics in bags for department stores in the 70's. I assume=20
this three-issue mini-series is from another "Modern Comics", but I've=20
found the claim in two locations (not unusual in itself on the net) and=20
I wondered who might be able to shed some light here.=20

Thanks.

Dean


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Subject: Re: A Taste For Tallarico!
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Folks--

My apologies for the slightly disjointed tone of my Tallarico message.  
For one thing, I didn't realize that my hyperlink to Youtube wouldn't  
work, so here in a more straightforward fashion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unHy7pgYFps

I meant to say that it was produced between two periods of "hit you  
over the head with the message" education, that blessed cultural  
period lasting from the mid-sixties to the mid-seventies, when child  
psychologists and other "experts" took over and dumbed everything  
down. Suddenly, everything had to be "educational", sledgehammer  
"moral" in tow.

Ah, sorry about the rant. ;)

Also forgotten in the shuffle, a wonderful Tallarico audio interview,  
also transcribed here, so you can pick your medium.

http://www.collectortimes.com/2006_08/Clubhouse.html

He really comes off as a real likeable, hard-working and down-to-earth  
guy. To me, at least.

Richard


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Subject: Re: Voltron And Modern Comics?
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I've never heard of the character or the Modern Comics connection.

Mike A.

> I ran across a claim that Voltron, the cartoon character was published=20
> by Modern Comics, the same Modern Comics which offered up reprints of=20
> Charlton Comics in bags for department stores in the 70's. I assume=20
> this three-issue mini-series is from another "Modern Comics", but I've=20
> found the claim in two locations (not unusual in itself on the net) and=20
> I wondered who might be able to shed some light here.=20
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> Dean
>



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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Voltron And Modern Comics?
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tv show characther.  It was published by Modern Comics, the only
question is if its the same Modern Comics. the GCD says it isnt.

steven rowe

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Michael Ambrose
<charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> I've never heard of the character or the Modern Comics connection.
>
> Mike A.
>
>> I ran across a claim that Voltron, the cartoon character was published
>> by Modern Comics, the same Modern Comics which offered up reprints of
>> Charlton Comics in bags for department stores in the 70's. I assume
>> this three-issue mini-series is from another "Modern Comics", but I've
>> found the claim in two locations (not unusual in itself on the net) and
>> I wondered who might be able to shed some light here.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>
> 

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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Charlatan Comics!
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I love funny homages to the classic comic books we all adore. Pete Von Shol=
ly has done a masterful job here of capturing the essence of some classic D=
itkoesque images. For a small gallery of "Charlatan Comics" check out Vonsh=
ollywood.=20

Here's a link:

http://vonshollywood.blogspot.com/2009/02/klaatu-barada-ditko.html


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Ha!=A0 Pretty funny!
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Al Smith

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlatan Comics!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:26 AM






I love funny homages to the classic comic books we all adore. Pete Von Shol=
ly has done a masterful job here of capturing the essence of some classic D=
itkoesque images. For a small gallery of "Charlatan Comics" check out Vonsh=
ollywood.=20

Here's a link:

http://vonshollywoo d.blogspot. com/2009/ 02/klaatu- barada-ditko. html

















=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Interesting.=A0 Are these comic comics or just covers?

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlatan Comics!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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I love funny homages to the classic comic books we all adore. Pete Von Shol=
ly has done a masterful job here of capturing the essence of some classic D=
itkoesque images. For a small gallery of "Charlatan Comics" check out Vonsh=
ollywood.=20

Here's a link:

http://vonshollywoo d.blogspot. com/2009/ 02/klaatu- barada-ditko. html

















=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Does anyone know the artist on the first issue of Vengeance Squad?  Just cu=
rious.  Pete Morisi did a great job on the following issues.

     Allen Smith


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Frank Bolle - the current artist on the "Apartment 3-G" comic strip,
and possibly  best known for his work on ME's Tim Holt / Red Mask
comic.

steven rowe

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know the artist on the first issue of Vengeance Squad? Just
> curious. Pete Morisi did a great job on the following issues.
>
> Allen Smith
>
> 

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Thank you Steven.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Art question
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 9:09 PM






Frank Bolle - the current artist on the "Apartment 3-G" comic strip,
and possibly best known for his work on ME's Tim Holt / Red Mask
comic.

steven rowe

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know the artist on the first issue of Vengeance Squad? Just
> curious. Pete Morisi did a great job on the following issues.
>
> Allen Smith
>
>=20
















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Just covers I'd imagine. Von Sholly does all kinds of these faux covers, mo=
stly featuring dinosaurs.=20


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They are really fun.=A0=20

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Just covers I'd imagine. Von Sholly does all kinds of these faux covers, mo=
stly featuring dinosaurs.=20

















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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Steve Skeates In Alter Ego!
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Part one of the a two-part Steve Skeates interview is in the latest Alter E=
go, issue #84. I've only skimmed it at this point, but Skeates talks about =
his early career at Charlton quite a bit. There's a lot of keen Charlton im=
ages on display in this one. So despite that Aquaman cover, give it a tumbl=
e.=20

Dean


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 I second the suggestion, having read a good part of the interview last night.

Dan

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            Part one of the a two-part Steve Skeates interview is in the latest Alter Ego, issue #84. I've only skimmed it at this point, but Skeates talks about his early career at Charlton quite a bit. There's a lot of keen Charlton images on display in this one. So despite that Aquaman cover, give it a tumble. 

Dean

               
					

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Subject: The Charlton Comic Book Guide!
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Check out the Files section and you'll find the complete Charlton Comic Boo=
k Guide they developed for aspiring talent. This Bronze Age gem features se=
veral bits of great Charlton artwork by the likes of Staton, Sutton, and ot=
hers. It's a great little nuts and bolts pamphlet for the up and coming com=
ics talent of the time. Sure most of the techniques are likely outmoded tod=
ay, but once they were the way things were done. I've long wanted a copy of=
 this, and it's a treat to get to read it at last.=20

Dean


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Thanks, very, very nuch.=A0 I had a copy of this many years ago, but lost i=
t.=A0 I've been looking for this for a while -- even put in a couple of req=
uests on Charlton groups.=A0 Glad to finally have this again at last.=A0 Ag=
ain, thanks very much.

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Charlton Comic Book Guide!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 5:18 AM






Check out the Files section and you'll find the complete Charlton Comic Boo=
k Guide they developed for aspiring talent. This Bronze Age gem features se=
veral bits of great Charlton artwork by the likes of Staton, Sutton, and ot=
hers. It's a great little nuts and bolts pamphlet for the up and coming com=
ics talent of the time. Sure most of the techniques are likely outmoded tod=
ay, but once they were the way things were done. I've long wanted a copy of=
 this, and it's a treat to get to read it at last.=20

Dean

















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Subject: Modern E-Man Question?
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Am I correct in assuming that the Modern reprints of E-Man only include iss=
ues #1-4 and then jump to issues #9 and #10. I can only find information on=
 these six issues, so I'm guessing that's all there is.=20

I was lucky to find the first four of these in really great shape this past=
 weekend, and now I of course want to complete off this E-Man mini-collecti=
on.=20

Dean


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>
> Am I correct in assuming that the Modern reprints of E-Man only include i=
ssues #1-4 and then jump to issues #9 and #10. I can only find information =
on these six issues, so I'm guessing that's all there is.=20
>=20
> I was lucky to find the first four of these in really great shape this pa=
st weekend, and now I of course want to complete off this E-Man mini-collec=
tion.=20
>=20

Modern kind of reprinted random issues, with no rhyme or reason.  I believe=
 the Charlton Bullseye site has a list of known Modern reprints.

One thing I've heard (and not been certain of the accuracy), was that Moder=
n was printed by Charlton, but wasn't certain if "Modern" was Charlton them=
selves or an outside client.  The purpose I had heard was that the Modern r=
eprints were intended as bagged comics for certain stores (like Western/Whi=
tman was trying with limited success).


Michael Brown


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<The purpose I had heard was that the Modern reprints were intended as bagg=
ed comics for certain stores (like Western/Whitman was trying with limited =
success).>
=A0
That is how I got some of mine.


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From: Michael Brown <emb021@motorola.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Modern E-Man Question?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 9:47 AM








--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@. ..> wro=
te:
>
> Am I correct in assuming that the Modern reprints of E-Man only include i=
ssues #1-4 and then jump to issues #9 and #10. I can only find information =
on these six issues, so I'm guessing that's all there is.=20
>=20
> I was lucky to find the first four of these in really great shape this pa=
st weekend, and now I of course want to complete off this E-Man mini-collec=
tion.=20
>=20

Modern kind of reprinted random issues, with no rhyme or reason. I believe =
the Charlton Bullseye site has a list of known Modern reprints.

One thing I've heard (and not been certain of the accuracy), was that Moder=
n was printed by Charlton, but wasn't certain if "Modern" was Charlton them=
selves or an outside client. The purpose I had heard was that the Modern re=
prints were intended as bagged comics for certain stores (like Western/Whit=
man was trying with limited success).

Michael Brown

















=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Thanks for the information. Modern was indeed Charlton I think, and the bag=
ged idea sure sounds right. I think I've seen some still in the bag online.=
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Dean


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Thank You & God Bless  Guy E Sparkman=20=20


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Subject: Stroke indicators
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INFORMATION EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW..........................
B lood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue


I will continue to forward this every time it comes around!

STROKE:Remember the 1st Three Letters....S.T.R.=20

My nurse friend sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word.
I agree..

If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks.
Seriously..

Please read:

STROKE IDENTIFICATION:

During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyo=
ne that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .she said she had ju=
st tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.

They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared=
 a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evenin=
g

Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken=
 to the hospital - (at 6:00 pm Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stro=
ke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhap=
s Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die. they end up in a helpless,=
 hopeless condition instead.

It only takes a minute to read this...

A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he =
can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick wa=
s getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medi=
cally cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.

RECOGNIZING A STROKE

Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!

Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, th=
e lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe br=
ain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.

Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple q=
uestions:

S *Ask the individual to SMILE.
T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. It is sunny out today...)
R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency number=
 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.

New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue

NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his=
 tongue.. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other, =
that is also an indication of a stroke.

A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people;=
 you can bet that at least one life will be saved.=20

I have done my part. Will you? =3D
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Hi there

I recently bought Ditko's cover art to the unpublished CAPTAIN ATOM # 90.

The artwork surfaced last year via Heritage Auction Galleries - where (in m=
y opinion) it was incorrectly identified as, "the unused alternative cover =
to CAPTAIN ATOM # 89".

I've done a small write-up to accompany the posting of the image in my CAF =
(Comic Art Fans) Galleries.

I'd be interested in hearing if people here concur with my thoughts on this=
 (or otherwise).

Here's a link:

http://comicartfans.com/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=3D43864



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After reading the info below the pick it seems like you made the most obvious conclusions to me.

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Thanks.

Although you probably can't tell by the cover image I uploaded on CAF, the =
code/date in the 'Charlton Comics' corner box (i.e. 650-1267) confirms this=
 artwork was originally intended for the December 1967 edition of CAPTAIN A=
TOM (1267 =3D month & year).

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Thought the group might be interested in the article (see link in forwarded message below) by Cash Gorman re copyright and public domain golden age characters because of his observation regarding the possible status of the Charlton Action Heroes.

--- On Tue, 6/16/09, cash_gorman <cash_gorman@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: cash_gorman <cash_gorman@yahoo.com>
Subject: [AllstarPerisphere] Link to copyright article
To: AllstarPerisphere@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:22 PM








Back just for a little bit before heading off to Greensboro again.

However, I did write up an article concerning my research into copyrights and the public domain status of various comics and characters from the 1940s including the ownership of the Quality characters. The research also cast into complete doubt the ownership of the Charlton characters from the 1960s!

http://www.geocitie s.com/cash_ gorman/copyright 1.html

















      

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Subject: UFO Mystery?
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I was reading Space Adventures Presents UFO #60/1. The Rocke Mastroserio co=
ver
has long been a favorite since I spotted it in some ads decades ago. But I =
never
owned a copy of the comic until earlier this year and I never got around to
actually reading it until a few days ago.

As most here will likely know it puts forth the investigation of a reporter=
 Paul
Mann who is assigned by his newspaper to track down the mystery of Unidenti=
fied
Flying Objects. He finds all sorts of trouble and eventually the answer in =
three
vivid chapters. According to credits Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil) wr=
ote
the three stories here and three different artists worked on them. Two we k=
now
and love -- Pat Boyette and Jim Aparo.

The third artist was only listed as "Melonius Thonk", a clear play on the j=
azz
musician Thelonius Monk. The story looks much older in style than the other=
 two
chapters. And I assume it's a file story of some sort used as a springboard=
 for
the other two so as to flesh out a complete issue to capitalize on the UFO
craze.

But I still can't recognize the art style. Who was "Melonius Thonk"? Anyone=
 here
know?

Dean



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Space Adventures had been published by Charlton since the 50's. The issue i=
n question is alternately listed as issue #60 or issue #1. It's indicia say=
s it's "Space Adventures Presents U.F.O. Vol.3 No.60, October 1967". And it=
's frequency of publication is four times a year, though this is the only i=
ssue with this title that I know of.=20

The comic features a typicially dynamic cover by the painfully overlooked R=
ocke Mastroserio. It's mesmerizing and it's also true to the contents of th=
e comic book itself. The editor of this comic is Dick Giordano.=20

Now the stories in this comic feature a reporter named Paul Mann. He works =
for the Jackson County Intellegencer and he's given the task of looking int=
o the UFO phenomenon.=20

Chapter One is titled "Healers from Nowhere" and it's written by Sergius O'=
Shaugnessy and drawn by a guy named "Melonius Thonk". It's a very peculiar =
piece and seems actually to be some sort of file story from Charlton's sci-=
fi past. The artist isn't anyone I can identify immediately and likely neit=
her could Giordano or his staff hence the offbeat pseudonym. The story begi=
ns with Mann taking the assignment reluctantly, then giving us a somewhat a=
bbreviated history of man and the UFO. The story proper begins when he rela=
tes how a saucer was seen by a young cripple hillbilly boy who leaves his h=
ome so as not to be a burden but is found by eggheaded aliens. His parents =
part of the Archer clan find him gone and immediately suspect the Goodwin c=
lan with whom they are feuding. The two clans face off but before things ca=
n become too tragic the flying saucer descends and the young boy returns he=
aled. The two clans discover they can't remember why they feud and it ends =
happily.=20

Chapter Two of this saga is titled "The Plague" and it's drawn by Pat Boyet=
te. And I assume this one is fully scripted by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny =
O'Neil). This one begins with a robbery at a top secret government installa=
tion and Paul Mann is sent to find out what's up, the suspicion being some =
sort of potential for germ warfare. He is rebuffed by the military but at a=
 local bar stumbles across the theif and follows him only to discover an al=
ien (the same aliens as in the first story) is in his backseat. The reporte=
r and the alien go to the where the thief is exchanging his plunder but a f=
ight results in the toxins being released. The aliens save Mann and the sur=
rounding town with a mysterious light that expunges the poisons and then di=
sappear. Mann's editor rejects his story as poppycock, but the alien return=
s to tell Mann that though they cannot reveal themselves to the public they=
 can show Mann what it's all about.=20

Chapter Three reveals the secret. It's titled "The Secret of the Saucer" an=
d it's presumably written by O'Shaugnessy again and is drawn by Jim Aparo. =
The alien takes Paul Mann inside the saucer and reveals to him that they ar=
e not in fact aliens but humans from the future, specifically the year 4000=
 AD. They have come back in time to stall a world war between the Honjnos N=
ation of the Eastern Hemisphere and the Esrom Nation of the Western Hemisph=
ere. The war destroyed man's civilzation but these future men want to chang=
e that history. After he's told this Mann hears an alarm which indicates th=
e future men have been followed by the Honjnos enemy. A battle between spac=
eships follows until Mann learns that the ship can make relatively short ti=
me jumps easily, and further that they are above the island of Bikini. He t=
ells them to jump back in time from 1967 to 1964, which they do and the Hon=
jnos follow. The good aliens with Mann then escape back to 1967 leaving the=
 Honjnos ship to endure the effects of the first Hydrogen bomb test on Biki=
ni Atoll on March 1, 1964. Having destroyed the immediate enemy, the aliens=
 send Mann back as their emissary after spending thirteen years aboard the =
time ship training him. He is released back into the very world and time he=
 left and the UFO disappears, but leaves Paul Mann behind to take action to=
 save the future.=20

This is a very peculiar comic book. I'm only guessing, but I'd imagine that=
 someone wanting to take advantage of the UFO craze found the old story abo=
ut the aliens and then got the young writer O'Neil to spin enough out of it=
 to make a full comic. Then two Charlton reliables like Boyette and Aparo w=
ere brought in to finish it off, likely working simultaneously to meet the =
deadline. That's just speculation, but seems to fit the evidence the comic =
itself supplies. It's a weird comic, but a memorable one.=20





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It's too bad we can't ask Archie Goodwin what was going on with the feud be=
tween the Archer and the Goodwin clans?
Darci




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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:00:42 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Space Adventures Present UFO!

=A0=20
Space Adventures had been published by Charlton since the 50's. The issue i=
n question is alternately listed as issue #60 or issue #1. It's indicia say=
s it's "Space Adventures Presents U.F.O. Vol.3 No.60, October 1967". And it=
's frequency of publication is four times a year, though this is the only i=
ssue with this title that I know of.=20

The comic features a typicially dynamic cover by the painfully overlooked R=
ocke Mastroserio. It's mesmerizing and it's also true to the contents of th=
e comic book itself. The editor of this comic is Dick Giordano.=20

Now the stories in this comic feature a reporter named Paul Mann. He works =
for the Jackson County Intellegencer and he's given the task of looking int=
o the UFO phenomenon.=20

Chapter One is titled "Healers from Nowhere" and it's written by Sergius O'=
Shaugnessy and drawn by a guy named "Melonius Thonk". It's a very peculiar =
piece and seems actually to be some sort of file story from Charlton's sci-=
fi past. The artist isn't anyone I can identify immediately and likely neit=
her could Giordano or his staff hence the offbeat pseudonym. The story begi=
ns with Mann taking the assignment reluctantly, then giving us a somewhat a=
bbreviated history of man and the UFO. The story proper begins when he rela=
tes how a saucer was seen by a young cripple hillbilly boy who leaves his h=
ome so as not to be a burden but is found by eggheaded aliens. His parents =
part of the Archer clan find him gone and immediately suspect the Goodwin c=
lan with whom they are feuding. The two clans face off but before things ca=
n become too tragic the flying saucer descends and the young boy returns he=
aled. The two clans discover they can't remember why they feud and
 it ends happily.=20

Chapter Two of this saga is titled "The Plague" and it's drawn by Pat Boyet=
te. And I assume this one is fully scripted by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny =
O'Neil). This one begins with a robbery at a top secret government installa=
tion and Paul Mann is sent to find out what's up, the suspicion being some =
sort of potential for germ warfare. He is rebuffed by the military but at a=
 local bar stumbles across the theif and follows him only to discover an al=
ien (the same aliens as in the first story) is in his backseat. The reporte=
r and the alien go to the where the thief is exchanging his plunder but a f=
ight results in the toxins being released. The aliens save Mann and the sur=
rounding town with a mysterious light that expunges the poisons and then di=
sappear. Mann's editor rejects his story as poppycock, but the alien return=
s to tell Mann that though they cannot reveal themselves to the public they=
 can show Mann what it's all about.=20

Chapter Three reveals the secret. It's titled "The Secret of the Saucer" an=
d it's presumably written by O'Shaugnessy again and is drawn by Jim Aparo. =
The alien takes Paul Mann inside the saucer and reveals to him that they ar=
e not in fact aliens but humans from the future, specifically the year 4000=
 AD. They have come back in time to stall a world war between the Honjnos N=
ation of the Eastern Hemisphere and the Esrom Nation of the Western Hemisph=
ere. The war destroyed man's civilzation but these future men want to chang=
e that history. After he's told this Mann hears an alarm which indicates th=
e future men have been followed by the Honjnos enemy. A battle between spac=
eships follows until Mann learns that the ship can make relatively short ti=
me jumps easily, and further that they are above the island of Bikini. He t=
ells them to jump back in time from 1967 to 1964, which they do and the Hon=
jnos follow. The good aliens with Mann then escape back to 1967
 leaving the Honjnos ship to endure the effects of the first Hydrogen bomb =
test on Bikini Atoll on March 1, 1964. Having destroyed the immediate enemy=
, the aliens send Mann back as their emissary after spending thirteen years=
 aboard the time ship training him. He is released back into the very world=
 and time he left and the UFO disappears, but leaves Paul Mann behind to ta=
ke action to save the future.=20

This is a very peculiar comic book. I'm only guessing, but I'd imagine that=
 someone wanting to take advantage of the UFO craze found the old story abo=
ut the aliens and then got the young writer O'Neil to spin enough out of it=
 to make a full comic. Then two Charlton reliables like Boyette and Aparo w=
ere brought in to finish it off, likely working simultaneously to meet the =
deadline. That's just speculation, but seems to fit the evidence the comic =
itself supplies. It's a weird comic, but a memorable one.=20





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Hi all can anyone tell me what comic the Liberty Belle story in the files s=
ection is from.
Thank You & God Bless, Guy


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E-Man Vol 1_005 November 1974.

-Nigel



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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Liberty Belle
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 11:56 PM
> Hi all can anyone tell me what comic
> the Liberty Belle story in the files section is from.
> Thank You & God Bless, Guy
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Yes, and it will be interesting to see if Caroline Dean gets a mention in a=
ny upcoming Liberty Belle archive editions, won't it?
Thanks,
Darci
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P.S.=A0 See also http://www.geocities.com/cash_gorman/copyright1.html=A0:
"Charlton



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E-Man Vol 1_005 November 1974.

-Nigel

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> From: GUY <sparkmang@hotmail. com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Liberty Belle
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
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> Hi all can anyone tell me what comic
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> Thank You & God Bless, Guy
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"Not a GA company but a mystery that was uncovered. In researching Blue Bee=
tle renewals for Fox, the only copyright cards unearthed from 1955-1971 was=
 for a song by the name of the Blue Beetle. At first the significance didn'=
t hit me as I wasn't really expecting to see a renewal card for the Fox pro=
perty. However, there should have been a few for the Charlton different tit=
les and versions (4 different Blue Beetle titles) of the character.. Not ev=
en a cross reference card. I looked under Charlton. Nothing for any of thei=
r titles. "Captain Atom" likewise turned up nothing. Were none of the title=
s registered? Or was there a different company name that they were filed un=
der and no cross-reference cards were made under their main company name an=
d individual titles? Nor is there any record of DC (or anybody else) renewi=
ng copyrights to the late 1950s and early 60s Charlton Material although ti=
tles post 1964 should be elligible for automatic renewal. Wrap your
 head around that one. This means that Captain Atom, the Question, Blue Bee=
tle (whether he's the scarab powered Dan Garrett or the techno hero Ted Kor=
d), ... may all be public domain.
"Nor is there any renewal information concerning their first BLUE BEETLE se=
ries (1955), SPACE ADVENTURES (1954/55 #13 & 14 with the Blue Beetle; 1958 =
#33, debut of Captain Atom), NATURE BOY, and MISTER MUSCLES."

Note from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Comics=A0:
"Editor Robin Snyder oversaw the sale of some properties to their creators.=
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I'm sure she will.

-Nigel



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> Yes, and it will be interesting to
> see if Caroline Dean gets a mention in any upcoming Liberty
> Belle archive editions, won't it?
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> Darci
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From: "ripjagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Nick Cuti Wins Inkpot Award!
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Charlton's own Nick Cuti has won the Inkpot Award at this years San Diego C=
onvention. Congrats to one of the best writers in comics, and one of the ni=
cest guys.=20

Here's a link to an article with more details:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=3Darticle&id=3D22180

Dean


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That's very good news, Nick writes well and is fun to read.=A0 Anyone in co=
mics fandom remember when it was actually fun to read comics?
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Charlton's own Nick Cuti has won the Inkpot Award at this years San Diego C=
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Here's a link to an article with more details:

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Subject: The Hercules Reports #1
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I begin today a series of reviews of Charlton's late 60's series Hercules.

Hercules #1 is dated October 1967. The title on the cover and on the splash=
 page reads "Adventures of the Man-God Hercules" but the official title of =
the book is just "Hercules". There are no credits for the opening story, th=
ough the script is attributed to Joe Gill and the artwork is undoubtedly by=
 Sam Glanzman. The whole comic was edited by Dick Giordano. The story has n=
o title other than "Adventures of the Man-God Hercules". The splash shows a=
n unbearded Hercules facing off against the Nemean Lion.=20

The story though begins in the mountains as Hercules has sought the Gods. A=
fter the death of his mother Alcmene, he calls out to his father Zeus who r=
esponds to him by unbodied voice that he must complete nine tasks or labors=
 and submit to the judgment of Eyrystheus before he can be allowed among th=
e immortals. Hercules agrees to this and heads off to Nemea to confront the=
 Lion, the first of his assigned labors. But a guard takes issue with Hercu=
les leaving as King Phillip has ordered him to stay for the games. Hercules=
 refuses and a fight ensues. Hercules is chased by the guards at the comman=
d of Phillip but he knocks over a bridge defeating his pursuers. He then sa=
ves a beautiful redhead from three thugs, only discover she is Princess Hel=
en betrothed of Prince Alexander. This doesn't stop them from striking up a=
 friendly relationship though so when Alexander sees Hercules later with He=
len he's jealous but has to give Hercules his appreciation when he learns H=
ercules saved his intended. Hercules then joins Alexander and his troops in=
 a battle agains Phillip and Hercules is instrumental in defeating the othe=
r army. Then Hercules at last turns his attention to the Nemean lion. Helen=
 goes with him to the challenge, but he sends her away as he battles the be=
ast. Using his massive strength, he subdues the lion and kills it. Taking t=
he lion's skin as his mantle, he leaves after rejecting a sword from Alexan=
der, saying he doesn't need weapons. As Hercules leaves, they speculate tha=
t he doesn't seem completely human.=20

The text feature in this issue is "Meeko the Microbe". It's the story of a =
classroom science experiment gone wild as a microscopic microbe grows to va=
st proportions but becomes the pet of a fifteen year old girl. She goes on =
to vast fame as scientists all across the globe come to see her remarkable =
pet, and they agree that she and she alone can make money from the creature=
. As the story closes her fortune is assured as many flock to see Meeko.=20

The second feature in the comic is "Thane of Bagarth", a fascinating series=
 done roughly in the style of Hal Foster's Prince Valiant. The story is set=
 between the two halves of the epic Anglo-Saxon saga Beowulf. It's after Be=
owulf became killed Grendel and became King but before he confronted the Dr=
agon and was killed. After the battle with Grendel, Beowulf gave "vast trac=
ts of land" to his thanes. Wigmenric was made the Thane of Bagarth, and on =
his passing his eldest son Hrothelac became Thane. This is the story of Hro=
thelac. In this story titled "Chapter One: The Feud" written by Steve Skeat=
es and drawn by Jim Aparo, we find a feud has been going on between Bagarth=
 and Rothor. Some peasants are attacked and in retalation a Guardsman of Ba=
garth kills a Guardsman of Rothor. This comes to the attention of King Beow=
ulf who demands the truth from his Thanes. Hrothelac comes and tells his si=
de, the truth, but it differs from the story told by Garmscio Thane of Roth=
or. Beowulf demands evidence and the liar will be banished. Hrothelac goes =
to his younger brother Eowanda for help, but he doesn't suspect Eowanda wan=
ts himself to be Thane of Bagarth. On his way to see Eowanda, Hrothelac see=
s Freahulf the daughter of a local scholar. As the chapter closes both Garm=
scio and Eowanda plot to bring down the current Thane of Bagarth.

I'm fascinated by this comic. The idea to create an ongoing comic book feat=
uring the labors of Hercules is a natural one, though I admit it doesn't se=
em all that marketable. Getting Sam Glanzman to do this was inspired. Backi=
ng it up with a series that echoes Prince Valiant is inspired and gives the=
 complete package a real upscale adventure quality. Two great myths are ada=
pted in one dazzling package by some really rock-solid professionals. Hercu=
les #1 points to a fantastic series of stories which begin straightforwardl=
y enough, but will becomes quite bizarre indeed. The comic was reprinted in=
 Charlton Classics #1 in 1980, though Thane of Bagarth was not. Both got re=
printed in 1968 in the one-shot B&W Hercules magazine from Charlton. Thane =
of Bagarth was reprinted as seperate comic in 1985. ACG (Avalon) has reprin=
ted the stories several times.=20

More next time.=20



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I continue today with Hercules #2 from Charlton.=20

This issue is dated December 1967. The lead story starring Hercules is draw=
n by Sam Glanzman and written by Sergius O'Shaughnessy (Denny O'Neil) or at=
 least that's what the letters page suggests about the writer. The comic is=
 edited by Dick Giordano. The title of the lead story is "When Man Meets Mo=
nster!" and it pits Hercules against the multiple-bodied giant Gerion.=20

In this issue we see Zeus for the first time and we meet several other gods=
 especially Hera the jealous stepmother of Hercules who begins immediately =
in this story to make his life and quest to become fully immortal very diff=
icult indeed. Hercules begins the tale by asking Zeus what the second of hi=
s twelve labors will be (yes it was nine in the debut issue, a mistake ment=
ioned and corrected again in the letters page) and discovers he must sail t=
o the giant Gerion's palace to confront him. While on the sea Hera raises a=
 strange wave that swamps the ship but Zeus employs Aeolus the wind god to =
counteract this plot. Hercules ends up swimming 335 miles to his destinatio=
n. There he confronts Gerion for the first time and defeats the club-wieldi=
ng giant and defeats him. Then the second Gerion tells his third incarnatio=
n to hide and he tries to trick Hercules and drops him into a pit of snakes=
. Hercules defeats them and uses the snakes as ropes to get out of the pit.=
 All the while Zeus and Hera watch and comment on his efforts. Hercules def=
eats the second Gerion when the third Gerion arrives on a winged lizard and=
 Hercules and he fight atop the monster. Eventually Hercules defeats this t=
hird Gerion, completing his labor and he swims home. There he meets his dad=
 Zeus and the two share a friendly moment as the story closes.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" offers up three letters from fans on th=
e debut issue. Of special note are letters from Klaus Janson and Bill Mantl=
o. In a response to Janson the editors reveal that Hercules is intended as =
a sword and sorcery book, but do indicate that Herc will get a beard and be=
gin wearing the Nemean Lion skin as something akin to a costume beginning w=
ith the very next issue.=20

"The Molecules and the Cook Book" is a text story that reveals a scientist =
who is ingenious enough to develop a recipe that will allow him to travel t=
hrough solid objects, making him ostensibly the most powerful man in the wo=
rld. Others seem to take this claim to heart and he is given great authorit=
y over world affairs and as master he plans to give his power to all people=
 in the free world.=20

"Thane of Bagarth" returns with a story entitled "Chapter Two: The Plot". W=
ritten by Steve Skeates and drawn by Jim Aparo this installment continues t=
he saga of Hrothelac, the Thane of Bagarth who has gone to his younger brot=
her Eowanda to find affirmative proof that he did not lie to King Beowulf a=
bout being a collaborator with the hated Swedes. Eowanda goes to a witch wh=
o concocts a potion that puts Hrothelac to sleep, giving the treacherous Eo=
wanda a chance to use Horthelac's signet ring to forge papers. Eowando then=
 goes to Garmscio the Thane of Rothfor who is also enemy of the current Tha=
ne of Bagarth and after a swordfight they realize they must work together t=
o bring down Hrothelac. Garmscio agrees to take the forged documents to Kin=
g Beowulf. The groggy Hrothelac is found by the beautiful Freahulf while at=
 that moment Beowulf gets the forged evidence and calls for a scholar to re=
ad them.=20

The comic book ends with a great Charlton house ad with the funny blurb "Bu=
y Charlton Comics! (We need the money!)".=20

This issue's Hercules story was reprinted in 1980 in Charlton Classics #2. =
The Thane of Bagarth story was reprinted in Thane of Bagarth #1 in 1985.=20

More next time.=20



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I continue with my review of Charlton's Hercules series from the late 60's.

Hercules #3 dated February 1968, offers up a striking change in the series =
after only two issues. Hercules is given a more vivid and distinctive visua=
l appearance by the addition of the skin of the Nemean Lion and a beard. Th=
is issue's cover was drawn by Sam Glanzman as have been all of them. He als=
o is the artist on the lead story written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'=
Neil). The editor is Dick Giordano.=20

The Hercules adventure this time is titled "Netherworld" and opens with a w=
onderful splash page of Hercules battling Cerberus. The story begins with H=
ercules seeking human companionship and being rebuffed first by a mother wh=
o fears for her child and later by soldiers who consider him a wandering oa=
f. He quickly proves his strength with the latter but his anger is quelled =
when his friend King Admetus shows up. The procession is a funeral but Adme=
tus tells Hercules it is only for a favored servant girl. Later while enjoy=
ing the hospitality of Admetus Herucles finds out the funeral was for Queen=
 Alcestis and he pledges to go to Hades and rescue her. He calls to Zeus wh=
o arranges with Hercules that if he defeats Cerberus the three-headed hound=
 which guards Hades he will have completed the third of his twelve required=
 tasks to become a full-fledged god. Hera still wants to defeat the Man-God=
 so she arranges with Hefestus to make a million spear points to rain down =
on Hercules. But Aphrodite sees this and goes to Zeus who is polishing up h=
is thunderbolts (which are dingy) and he arranges for Aeoulus to blow the s=
pear points away from Hercules and they become a defacto ladder for him to =
use to climb up to the cave which is the door to Hades. There he encounters=
 Pluto who sends him into Hades unarmed. Then quickly Hercules finds Death =
and Alcestis. He battles death and makes off with the grateful Queen, but s=
adly has to leave others behind in the land of the dead. Then Cerberus show=
s up and he and Hercules battle. Hercules defeats the beast and drags him u=
p out of Hades as he and Alcestis escape. Pluto indicates he's impressed wi=
th Hercules. Alcesits and Admetus are reunited and Hercules goes off to fac=
e for challenges.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" returns with three letters, another one=
 from Klaus Janson. The letters seem to recognize the similarity between Gl=
anzman and Joe Kubert, and all are complimentary. One letter writer asks if=
 Charlton might adapt Conan, but the answer is that it's too expensive. I'd=
 have loved to see that adaptation personally.=20

The text story this time is "The Story of Momotaro" and it appears to be th=
e retelling of a Japanese myth about Momotaro who is born out of the center=
 of a peach and goes to battle evil spirts on Devil's Island aided by three=
 helpers-- a monkey, a dog, and a pheasant. Momotaro also has magic dumplin=
gs.=20

The Thane of Bagarth story this time is titled "Chaper Three: Banishment". =
In this story written by Steve Skeates and drawn by Jim Aparo, the Thane of=
 Bagarth Hrothelac has been betrayed by his brother Eowanda and the Thane o=
f Rothfor who deliver forged documents to King Beowulf indicating that Hrot=
helac has conspired with the hated Swedes. Beowulf demands the traitor be b=
rought before him and dispatches men to accomplish that. Meanwhile Hrothela=
c wakes up in the cabin of Daeghred the Scholar where he'd been brought by =
the Scholar's daughter Freahulf after she found Hrothelac unconscious. He f=
inds wax on his signet ring and wrongly suspects Daeghred of having betraye=
d him. He leaves only to be immediately captured by Beowulf's men and broug=
ht to the King. The King banishes Hrothelac who assumes Daeghred is the cul=
prit. He leaves but is waylaid by Vikings and taken aboard their ship as a =
slave. Beowulf plans to give the title of Bagarth to the Thane of Rothfor f=
rustrating Eowanda's plans.=20

There's another entertaining House Ad in which they ask for money.=20

And that's it. It's a really good issue, the first in which you feel the el=
ements of the comic book have come together. Hercules looks exactly right, =
echoing not only the classic film versions but also the classic look of old=
 Greece. The stories feature the Gods of Olympus who offer a range of disti=
nctive and very human personalities. There's humor in the Hercules story, n=
icely meshed with the adventure. The Thane of Bagarth story is picking up s=
team nicely, though it looks at this point more like a standard comic than =
a Prince Valiant clone. All in all this is now a solid comic book package. =
The lead Hercules story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #3. The Thane of=
 Bagarth story has been reprinted several times. See this link for more det=
ails.=20

More to come.
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Great stuff hope it is still OK to post on GCD. Did I miss any since Primus?

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Feel free to post it on GCD. It's an honor to show up there, really. And th=
is is the first full series I've detailed since Primus. I've done some work=
 on Space Adventures, with more to come. I'm anxious to give the Action Her=
oes, especially Judomaster this detailed treatment. Reading these comics wi=
th the anticipation that I will be writing summaries really makes me read c=
arefully, paying attention to small details that normally I might gloss ove=
r.=20

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The fourth issue of Hercules from Charlton is dated June 1968, several mont=
hs after the previous issue. It is the last issue edited by Dick Giordano a=
nd probably this shake-up is the reason for the delay.=20

The Hercules story is titled "Land of Menace" and is attributed to Serius O=
'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil) and is drawn by Sam Glanzman (who signs his work=
 here and in previous issues as "S.J.G"). The issue begins with a splash of=
 Hercules battling what appear to be green flying monkeys.=20

The story itself starts with Hercules walking through a storm and seeking s=
helter in a cave. In the cave in the smoke of his fire Zeus and Hera appear=
. Hera reviews the successes Hercules has had battling the Nemean Lion, Ger=
ion the Three-bodied Giant, and Cerberus of the Underworld. She then offers=
 up a fourth task, to get her something to eat. She wants Golden Apples onl=
y found in the other-dimensional world of Nul. She opens a portal for Hercu=
les and tells him he has three days. He leaps into the portal and moves thr=
ough a psychedelic zone to come out in a desert landscape. He starts to eat=
 some of what looks like a giant cactus but the plant attacks him and he ha=
s to uproot it. Then his attention is taken by young boy crying for help, b=
ut this turns out to be a Harpy in disguise. The Harpies look like green fl=
ying monkeys with spikes for hair. Hercules battles many of these Harpies b=
efore being overcome by a magic net that puts him to sleep. He's taken befo=
re King Poov, leader of the Harpies and is told he will be a slave. Hercule=
s takes Poov's staff and shatters the light escapting into the desert. Ther=
e he meets a giant named Atlas who is chained and holding up a giant stone =
slab to give shade and protection to the Harpy village. Meanwhile the Harpi=
es uncork a magic urn filled with weapons and attack Hercules again with ex=
ploding rocks. Hercules throws the chain of Atlas into one of these rocks a=
nd frees the giant. Then Atlas takes the slab and covers the mouth of the c=
ave in which the Harpies dwell. A fire leaks out of the magic urn and destr=
oys the Harpies. Atlas then takes Hercules to the Golden Apples and then te=
lls him that time is different in Nul and he's almost out of time and throw=
s him through the portal before it closes. Hercules returns with the prize =
much to Hera's displeasure but Zeus is very happy.

The text story this issue is titled "The Goddess of Mercy" and tells of a w=
icked warrior named Nicherin who steals a jewel from the Goddess of Mercy a=
nd summarily punished for his impudence transforming him into a tiny stone =
statue.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" features four letters, two by Canadians=
. There is the usual praise for the Hercules and Thane of Bagarth and recom=
mendations. One letter writer would like to see Son of Vulcan replace Thane=
 of Bagarth but the editors reject this idea and point out that reading not=
hing but superheroes would be dull. There is a great little thumbnail portr=
ait of Hercules by Glanzman done in a more realistic style.

Thane of Bargarth is titled "Chapter Four: The Galley" and is written by St=
eve Skeates and drawn by Jim Aparo. The story starts with Hrothelac capture=
d by Vikings and chained aboard a Viking galley as a slave. After several l=
ashes of the whip he begins to row. The leader of the Vikings is Figlaf and=
 he imagines where they are headed, a new world beyond the great ocean and =
he wishes to explore it for his king. Hrothelac dispairs. Meanwhile King Be=
owulf seeks out a Hag who can tell the future who reveals to him in magic m=
ists that Eowanda the new Thane of Bagarth will lead Beowulf's forces in ba=
ttle and get great fame. Beowulf is at once confused and threatened by this=
 prediction. He rides back to his castles as Hrothelac suffers under the la=
sh. A storm is building as the chapter closes.=20

There is also a house ad for Charlton's war books.=20

This issue is a real milestone for me personally. This is one of my very fi=
rst comic books. I knew Hercules from myth and loved this grand tale blendi=
ng the story of the Golden Apples. O'Neil and Glanzman do a wonderful job t=
elling this story and giving it some new twists. Atlas is magnificent and t=
he full page panel revealing him is very dramatic. Today these panels are c=
ommonplace but then not so much, especially in a Charlton book. The Harpies=
 evoke the flying monkeys of the Wizard of Oz and are very creepy. The stor=
y has a wonderfully brisk pace. This is a great comic book, and arguably th=
e best installment of the series. I didn't know when I was reading this way=
 back when, that it was the end of a great era at Charlton with the departu=
re of Dick Giordano, a name I would see again over at DC.

This story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #4.=20

More to come.




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Hercules #5 is dated July 1968. The issue is edited by Sal Gentile who took=
 over from Dick Giordano who was beginning his tenure at DC. There seems li=
ttle evidence of his hand in this issue though.

The first story starring Hercules is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny=
 O'Neil) and drawn by Sam Glanzman whose name appears in full for the first=
 time in the credits. The story is titled "The Land of the Amazons". Hercul=
es is fighting two bulls in the arena for the entertainment of some locals.=
 He then is interrupted by Zeus and Hera the latter giving him his next tas=
k, to bring to her the Golden Girdle of Hippolyta the Queen of the Amazons.=
 Hercules takes up the task readily and heads off. He soon chances across a=
 beautiful young blonde maiden chained to a stake being threatened by a gia=
nt lizard. He battles the lizard and saves the girl only to learn that this=
 was seen by Queen Hippolyta who had staked the girl out to begin with for =
her amusement. Hippolyta is impressed by Hercules and invites him to her pa=
lace where she attempts to woo him. When he balks she shows him the young m=
aiden trapped on a platform over a firey trap. Hercules is himself then imp=
risoned. He asks Zeus for aid who is ready to give it until Hera intercedes=
. Hercules then takes matters into his own hands and breaks out of his jail=
, climbs to a connecting rope and swings out to the trapped girl and rescue=
s her from her danger. The two of them battle through Hippolyta's forces, H=
ercules even toppling some columns but it is to little avail when they find=
 themselves confronted by her whole army. Hercules prepares to fight the Qu=
een but is stopped by a command from Hera ordering him not to battle a woma=
n. His dilemma is solved when the blonde maiden chucks a rock at Hippolyta =
knocking her out. Hercules takes her Golden belt and the army is freed from=
 her influence. They thanks Hercules who takes the Girdle to Hera who doesn=
't seem that happy that he's succeeded. The maiden wants to thank Hercules =
but he says he must continue with his quest and he leaves.=20

The "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" page features two letters this time=
 out. Both praise the book for its staying to true to the mythological deta=
ils of Hercules and both single out Glanzman for praise.=20

The text story "Mogo the Mighty" tells a tale of a village threatened by a =
evil warrior chief named Gogo. The villagers go to a wizened old man on the=
 mountain who takes from each man in the village some hair, some nails, and=
 some drops of blood to fashion a super warrior named Mogo the Mighty. Mogo=
 defeats Gogo and vanishes telling the villagers that next time they should=
 battle evil themselves.=20

Thane of Bagarth is again written by Steve Skeates and once again drawn by =
Jim Aparo. The title of this installment is "Chapter Five: The Battle Lost"=
. Hrothelac the banished Thane of Bagarth finds himself a slave aboard a Vi=
king ship. He's beginning to adapt to his role when the ship runs aground a=
nd he finds his chains freed by the melee. He tries to get clear of the shi=
p, fights a Viking and both are thrown into the sea, the Viking sinking bec=
ause of his armor. Hrothelac swims to shore only to see the ship itself fin=
ding purchase on the shore. But the land is England and Celts long under at=
tack by Vikings immediately assault the weary Vikings and soon kill them, i=
ncluding the chief Figlaf. Meanwhile Hrothelac wanders this new land thinki=
ng of those he left behind when he chances upon a castle. Unknown to Hrothe=
lac a warrior approaches him from behind.=20

This is really solid issue. Hippolyta is a beautiful and well-defined villa=
in for Hercules. In fact the characterization in the series is really becom=
ing sharp. Visually Herucles is really becoming more fully realized. Glanzm=
an gives him a more exotic look this issue by angling his eyes not unlike t=
hose you find on Greek pottery. Some of the pages featuring the Amazons are=
 very neatly designed and Hippolyta is actually a ravishing creature as pre=
sented in this story. The Thane of Bagarth story reverts to its Prince Vali=
ant roots eschewing any use of word balloons in this installment. All in al=
l a very solid and enjoyable issue.=20

The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #5 and the Thane of Bagar=
th story reprinted in Thane of Bagarth #25.=20

More to come.=20

Dean






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Dean how would you like these credited on GCD? By your name or nick or not at all.

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Hercules #6 is dated September 1968, and is something of a turning point fo=
r the series. In the previous issue Sal Gentile had taken over as editor an=
d in this issue Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil) gives way as writer to =
Charlton stalwart Joe Gill. Sam Glanzman remains on the the art chores.=20

The title of the lead story is "Hercules' Choice" and it begins quite liter=
ally with Hercules having to choose a path, one leading to pleasure and joy=
 and the other to hardship and duty. These paths are marked on a sign and e=
ach has a lovely woman marking its beginning. Zeus and Hera look on while H=
ercules ponders his choice. But Hera is interrupted by Mars, the God of War=
 who is mad at Hercules because he stopped a war that Mars was sure would l=
ast a good long time. Mars hurls a spear at Hercules which brings down a hi=
llside on him. Thinking this the work of Zeus, Hercules chooses the path of=
 duty and hardship. That road takes him to King Eurystheus, who was mention=
ed in the first adventure but is seen now for the first time. He gives Herc=
ules the task of slaying the Birds of Stymphalus, birds which are the pets =
of Mars no less. Hercules takes on the task and Mars is most upset looking =
down from Olympus. Going to Stymphalus, Hercules finds it deserted save for=
 a woman who seeks to warn Hercules of the danger of the Birds. It seems th=
ey are giants, and very dangerous. Hercules escapes the talons and falls in=
to a cellar where he finds the villagers cowering from the monsters. Taking=
 his weapons he goes up to fight the Birds but finds them proof agains his =
spear and his sword. He does manage to break the neck of one of them swingi=
ng a giant timber. Then the Birds show another power and fire some of their=
 nigh-metallic feathers like arrows at Hercules who protects himself with a=
 giant rock slab. He then strings his bow, a gift from Vulcan, but the Bird=
s fly out of range. Hercules is at a loss. But in Olympus Aphrodite goes to=
 Minerva who sens a magic rattle to Hercules, which draws in the Birds whic=
h he then uses his bow and arrows to dispatch. Triumphant he travels on the=
 road of hardship looking for his next task. Meanwhile in Olympus Zeus invi=
tes Hera and Mars to dine with him on a scrumptious meal of Bird gotten he =
says from the Stymphalus region. They are both nauseated by the invitation.

The text story this issue is titled "Mountain Man Morgan in Sandstorm". It =
is a tall tale of a railroad crew besieged by Indians who seek help. The ge=
t that help from a giant named Mountain Man Morgan who is empowered by Indi=
an magic. He is reluctant to kill the Indians despite the evil nature of th=
eir leader, and uses his massive lungs to blow up a sandstorm which drives =
the Indians away far into Mexico making it possible for the railroad to fin=
ish.=20

There are two letters in "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules". Both are by w=
riters who would make impact in the field. The first from David Singer prai=
ses the comic and the second from Duffy Vohland is a broad letter commentin=
g not only on Hercules but three other Charlton books as well.=20

Thane of Bagarth this time is presumably written by Steve Skeates though fo=
r the first time there are no credits. The artwork is by the all-purpose Ch=
arlton team of Nicholas and Alascia. The story is titled "Chapter Six: The =
Queen" and finds Hrothelac captured after escaping his Viking captors in En=
gland. He is taken to the dungeon and there is tended by another prisoner n=
amed Mordwain who is in jail for speaking out against his Queen. We meet th=
e Queen and the King as they hear news of a possible pact with the Mercians=
 which the Queen rejects. She is clearly the one in charge. Another scene c=
hange takes us back to the Land of the Geats and King Beowulf's castle as h=
e gets word the Swedes are raiding the territory. Thane of Bagarth Eowanda,=
 Hrothelac's disloyal brother sends an envoy to get the lovely Freahulf for=
 him. While on their way back to Eowanda's castle, the pair meet a party of=
 Swedes. Back in England Mordwain treats Hrothelac's wounds but the two can=
not converse yet. The story closes with the threat of war in England.=20

This issue as I say is a transitional one. Mars is introduced in the main H=
ercules story and he will have an increasing role in the trials of Herucles=
. As drawn by Sam Glanzman, Mars is a vivid character with his exotic armor=
. Also in this story Hercules seems more a frail man with desires and weakn=
esses of spirit. It's been hinted at in other stories, but is a focus here.=
 In the Thane of Bagarth the story is pretty static really, as Hrothelac is=
 pretty passive in most of it. In fact that's been something of a flaw in t=
he story all along.=20

The main story here was reprinted in Charlton Classics #6 and the backup st=
ory was reprinted in Thane of Bagarth #25.=20

More to come.=20




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Use my real name "Dean Webb" if you would. That way I can impress my friend=
s and family with my relative (ahem) fame.=20

Thanks.=20

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Hercules #7 is dated November 1968. The cover is by Sam Glanzman. The comic=
 was edited by Sal Gentile. The lead story is titled "The Bull of Minos" an=
d was written by Joe Gill and illustrated by Sam Glanzman.=20

The first story begins with King Eurystheus being confronted by Hera who de=
mands he find a task that will frustrate Hercules in his attempt to ascend =
to Olympus as a full-fledged god. She suggest he be sent to get the Bull of=
 Minos. Eurystheus commands it so and Hercules heads off, but not before He=
ra afflicts him with a magic spell that robs him of his strength. Hercules =
is smacked to the ground by a girl and robbed as he was helpless on the gro=
und. Hercules at last through sheer will overcomes the spell and gets aboar=
d a ship and heads to Minos with the blessing of Poseidon. Before they get =
to Minos the ship has to make land for repairs and Hercules goes for a stro=
ll. He meets up with Anteus, a giant warrior who challenges the Man-God. He=
rcules battles the giant only to discover that Anteus only grows stronger a=
nd larger when he makes contact with the ground. Finally Hercules knocks hi=
m out with a giant column to the noggin and then throws him into the sea. H=
e joins up again with his mates and heads to Minos. King Minos hears of Her=
cules and sends the Minotaur to intercept him. After making landfall Hercul=
es encounters the Minotaur but defeats him and makes the monster take him t=
o the Bull of Minos. The Minotaur complies and Hercules then confronts the =
giant bull. He finds he cannot defeat the beast by hand but digs a pit, fil=
ls it with water and then gets the Bull into it where he at last can bind i=
t and drag it back to the ship. He takes the Bull to Eurytheus and unleashe=
s the brute to rampage through his court. The story ends with Hercules and =
Zeus exchanging warm thoughts.=20

There are three letters in "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules", and ironcia=
lly one of them comments on the text stories that have been running in the =
series. The editors say they are necessary to meet postal regulations, but =
ironically there is no such story in this issue. One strange comment though=
 is elicited from the editors in response to a criticism that Charlton had =
cancelled many of their hero books. The comment suggests that matters other=
 than sales had to do with the cancellations. I can only assume the departu=
re of Dick Giordano is the reason, but that's speculation. Another letter o=
bjects to the design of Herc's eyes by Glanzman, and after a very political=
ly correct response about Asians, they editors seem to agree that Hercules =
should not have "slanted" eyes, though based on the comic Glanzman does wha=
t he wants in that regard.

Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Seven: The Captive" and it is written b=
y Steve Skeates and drawn by Jim Aparo. The story begins with Freahulf bein=
g captured by raiding Swedes as they kill the royal envoy from Beowulf sent=
 to fetch her. We then cut to Hrothelac in a dungeon in England for a momen=
t before cutting back to the Swedes who ride past Garmscio, Thane of Rothfo=
r who hides from the raiders. The scene changes to the castle of King Beowu=
lf who orders an attack on the Swedes to revenge their raids, but before he=
 can make the order specific he collapses in agony. He's not dead, but sore=
ly ill. Meanwhile the scholar Daeghred, father of Freahulf, finds the dead =
envoy and discovers his daughter is missing. He goes to the Thane of Bagart=
h, Eowanda but is summarily rebuffed. Eowanda then gets news of Beowulf's i=
llness and begins to plot. The scent shifts again to Beowulf's castle where=
 the sickened King has recovered but cannot lead his soldiers and so orders=
 his First Councilman Eadstan to do so and to also be wary of Eowanda. We a=
re reminded of Beowulf's vision that Eowanda would lead his troops in battl=
e. Eadstan heads off with warriors to complete his mission.

This is a solid issue. The Hercules story has plenty of action in it and so=
me neat humor involving the gods as they look down on Hercules.
The stories do have a certain predictability to them at this point, though =
the addition of the battle with Anteus was unexpected. Hera's spell was a n=
eat touch and offered up some surprises. The Thane of Bagarth story is rich=
 with plot, but Hrothelac is barely seen. The complexity of the story only =
grows.

The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #7.=20

Here's a link to Hercules Report #6.=20

More to come.


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Hercules #8 is in many ways the most peculiar of the run. The issue is date=
d December 1968 and the cover is by Sam Glanzman. The comic is edited by Sa=
l Gentile.=20

The lead story is titled "The Boar" and was written by Joe Gill and illustr=
ated by Sam Glanzman. Hercules goes to Hera's agent on Earth King Eurystheu=
s for his next task and is instructed that he must bring back the giant Boa=
r of Mount Erymanthus and return the beast to the court of Eurytheus, and f=
urther Hercules is only allowed to use the strength of his own hands to sub=
due the the monster. Hercules heads off on this task and climbs into the mo=
untains. There he is attacked by giant monster birds with poisonous talons,=
 creations of Hera, but these disappear when Zeus orders her to cease her a=
ttack. High in the snowy mountains Hercules comes across an encampment of w=
arriors, one of whom calls him a fool for taking on the Boar. Hercules cuff=
s the mocker and then heads higher still to seek the Boar, which he is told=
 will be easy since the monster will be hunting him. He finds the tracks bu=
t after following them for a while he gets concerned when it appears the be=
ast is circling around behind. Almost immediately the giant Boar attacks an=
d Hercules wrestles it, finally getting atop its back. Sliding up and down =
the mountainside Hercules rides the Boar bareback for a week until he at la=
st tames the monster. This newly trained creature he rides back to Eurytheu=
s in triumph.=20

This lead story is shorter than usual coming in at twelve pages.=20

Next is the letters page "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules". It features t=
wo letters, one asking for original artwork. The response indicates either =
it's policy not to release the originals or there's a legal liability for d=
oing it, the editors seem confused on that point. One letter writer makes n=
ote that Dick Giordano is gone on the DC.

"The Legend of Hercules" is a one-shot feature this issue. It's presumably =
written by Joe Gill and is certainly illustrated by Sam Glanzman. It relate=
s the classic origin of Herucles, telling the story of how he killed serpen=
ts in his crib and how he was trained by the centaurs in warcraft. There's =
a spectacular full-page shot of Herucles in battle alongside Zeus and Hera =
against the Titans. Also it says that Hercules was on the voyage with Jason=
 and his Argonauts for the Golden Fleece. It is after this that Hercules se=
eks atonement, but it's unclear why, save that he seems ashamed he's human =
at all and not a full god. He goes to the Oracle of Delphi who sends him to=
 Eurytheus. The six-page feature concludes with a summary of the previous s=
even tasks Hercules had performed (Lion of Nemea, Gerion the Giant, Cerebus=
 the Hound of Hades, Apples of Hesperides alongside Atlas, Amazons, Stympha=
lian Birds, and the Bull of Minos).=20

Thane of Bagarth is written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim Aparo. =
This installment is titled "Chapter Eight: Escape". It begins with the alch=
emist Mordwain administering a drug to Hrothelac to give him strength, whic=
h promptly knocks him out. The scene cuts to Beowulf's man Eadstan who lead=
s the Geats agains the Swedes in battle. The battle is brutal and at last E=
adstan is struck down, but is found by a Swedish servant girl. Back in Engl=
and in the dungeon Hrothelac is awake and full of furious energy as he atta=
cks the door to his jail. The guards enter and Hrothelac attacks them escap=
ing. Mordwain escapes too. Hrothelac heads to the shore where another Vikin=
g ship approaches. But he collapses and is found by a band of Celtic villag=
ers.=20

The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #8.

Now Hercules #8 is unique. In addition to the four-color version I've detai=
led above, there was issued presumably at the same time a magazine-size bla=
ck and white version of the comic. It's similar but not identical to the co=
lor version. It's also dated December 1968. The cover is developed from a p=
anel by Sam Glanzman inside the story, and added is a figure of Hrothelac T=
hane of Bagarth by Jim Aparo. (This is the only cover appearance by Thane o=
f Bagarth in its orignal run.) The lead story is titled "The Fantastic Gian=
t Boar" and is largely the same story written by Joe Gill and illustrated b=
y Sam Glanzman from the color comic. The story though is reformatted and th=
e twelve page story is expanded to twenty. This is done by blowing up certa=
in panels and suchlike.=20

The rest of the contents is comprised of reprinted material from early issu=
es of Hercules. Next is the first Thane of Bagarth chapter followed by the =
first Hercules story from Hercules #1. Then two additional chapters of Than=
e of Bagarth (Chapters Two and Three) close out the magazine.=20

I don't really know what Charlton was trying to do here. I presume they wer=
e exploring to see if Hercules would sell in other venues using the materia=
l they'd developed. 1968 saw Marvel experiment with magazines, specifically=
 the Spectacular Spider-Man books. And of course there was the relatively o=
ngoing success of Warren's line of books. There is not editorial in the mag=
azine to explain it. One small note though is that Sal Gentile is listed as=
 the editor, despite the fact that most of the material in the magazine was=
 produced when Dick Giordano was editor of the line.=20

I didn't get a copy of this magazine until many years after the fact, thoug=
h I have a vague recollection of seeing it on stands at the time. It's a cu=
riosity for sure, a real oddball relic from Charlton's oddball history.=20

More to come.=20


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Thanks for this series of reviews.=A0 Hopefully you can do it with other ti=
tles as well.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: ripjagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Hercules Reports #8
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:28 AM


=A0=20



Hercules #8 is in many ways the most peculiar of the run. The issue is date=
d December 1968 and the cover is by Sam Glanzman. The comic is edited by Sa=
l Gentile.=20

The lead story is titled "The Boar" and was written by Joe Gill and illustr=
ated by Sam Glanzman. Hercules goes to Hera's agent on Earth King Eurystheu=
s for his next task and is instructed that he must bring back the giant Boa=
r of Mount Erymanthus and return the beast to the court of Eurytheus, and f=
urther Hercules is only allowed to use the strength of his own hands to sub=
due the the monster. Hercules heads off on this task and climbs into the mo=
untains. There he is attacked by giant monster birds with poisonous talons,=
 creations of Hera, but these disappear when Zeus orders her to cease her a=
ttack. High in the snowy mountains Hercules comes across an encampment of w=
arriors, one of whom calls him a fool for taking on the Boar. Hercules cuff=
s the mocker and then heads higher still to seek the Boar, which he is told=
 will be easy since the monster will be hunting him. He finds the tracks bu=
t after following them for a while he gets concerned when it appears
 the beast is circling around behind. Almost immediately the giant Boar att=
acks and Hercules wrestles it, finally getting atop its back. Sliding up an=
d down the mountainside Hercules rides the Boar bareback for a week until h=
e at last tames the monster. This newly trained creature he rides back to E=
urytheus in triumph.=20

This lead story is shorter than usual coming in at twelve pages.=20

Next is the letters page "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules". It features t=
wo letters, one asking for original artwork. The response indicates either =
it's policy not to release the originals or there's a legal liability for d=
oing it, the editors seem confused on that point. One letter writer makes n=
ote that Dick Giordano is gone on the DC.

"The Legend of Hercules" is a one-shot feature this issue. It's presumably =
written by Joe Gill and is certainly illustrated by Sam Glanzman. It relate=
s the classic origin of Herucles, telling the story of how he killed serpen=
ts in his crib and how he was trained by the centaurs in warcraft. There's =
a spectacular full-page shot of Herucles in battle alongside Zeus and Hera =
against the Titans. Also it says that Hercules was on the voyage with Jason=
 and his Argonauts for the Golden Fleece. It is after this that Hercules se=
eks atonement, but it's unclear why, save that he seems ashamed he's human =
at all and not a full god. He goes to the Oracle of Delphi who sends him to=
 Eurytheus. The six-page feature concludes with a summary of the previous s=
even tasks Hercules had performed (Lion of Nemea, Gerion the Giant, Cerebus=
 the Hound of Hades, Apples of Hesperides alongside Atlas, Amazons, Stympha=
lian Birds, and the Bull of Minos).=20

Thane of Bagarth is written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim Aparo. =
This installment is titled "Chapter Eight: Escape". It begins with the alch=
emist Mordwain administering a drug to Hrothelac to give him strength, whic=
h promptly knocks him out. The scene cuts to Beowulf's man Eadstan who lead=
s the Geats agains the Swedes in battle. The battle is brutal and at last E=
adstan is struck down, but is found by a Swedish servant girl. Back in Engl=
and in the dungeon Hrothelac is awake and full of furious energy as he atta=
cks the door to his jail. The guards enter and Hrothelac attacks them escap=
ing. Mordwain escapes too. Hrothelac heads to the shore where another Vikin=
g ship approaches. But he collapses and is found by a band of Celtic villag=
ers.=20

The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #8.

Now Hercules #8 is unique. In addition to the four-color version I've detai=
led above, there was issued presumably at the same time a magazine-size bla=
ck and white version of the comic. It's similar but not identical to the co=
lor version. It's also dated December 1968. The cover is developed from a p=
anel by Sam Glanzman inside the story, and added is a figure of Hrothelac T=
hane of Bagarth by Jim Aparo. (This is the only cover appearance by Thane o=
f Bagarth in its orignal run.) The lead story is titled "The Fantastic Gian=
t Boar" and is largely the same story written by Joe Gill and illustrated b=
y Sam Glanzman from the color comic. The story though is reformatted and th=
e twelve page story is expanded to twenty. This is done by blowing up certa=
in panels and suchlike.=20

The rest of the contents is comprised of reprinted material from early issu=
es of Hercules. Next is the first Thane of Bagarth chapter followed by the =
first Hercules story from Hercules #1. Then two additional chapters of Than=
e of Bagarth (Chapters Two and Three) close out the magazine.=20

I don't really know what Charlton was trying to do here. I presume they wer=
e exploring to see if Hercules would sell in other venues using the materia=
l they'd developed. 1968 saw Marvel experiment with magazines, specifically=
 the Spectacular Spider-Man books. And of course there was the relatively o=
ngoing success of Warren's line of books. There is not editorial in the mag=
azine to explain it. One small note though is that Sal Gentile is listed as=
 the editor, despite the fact that most of the material in the magazine was=
 produced when Dick Giordano was editor of the line.=20

I didn't get a copy of this magazine until many years after the fact, thoug=
h I have a vague recollection of seeing it on stands at the time. It's a cu=
riosity for sure, a real oddball relic from Charlton's oddball history.=20

More to come.=20

















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Hercules #9 is dated February 1969. It's edited by Sal Gentile and the cove=
r as always is by Sam Glanzman.=20

The lead story is titled "Diomedes' Curse" and it was written by Joe Gill a=
nd illustrated by Sam Glanzman. The story begins with a splash page with Ma=
rs the God of War threatening Hercules as he battles the carnivorous horses=
 of Diomedes. After a summary of the feats of the Man-God from the last few=
 issues, the scene shifts to the forge of Vulcan who is fashioning a new sw=
ord for Mars who says he's going to use it to frustrate the godly aspiratio=
ns of Hercules and Vulcan reminds him he cannot take direct action by rule =
of Zeus himself. The scene shifts to the court of King Eurystheus who is gi=
ving an angry Hercules his next task, to retrieve the ferocious horse of Ki=
ng Diomedes of Thrace. Diomedes is tipped off by Mars that Hercules is comi=
ng. A storm is assaulting the ship Hercules is using to get to Thrace as Ma=
rs encourages Poseidon to sink it. He refuses but does let free a fire-brea=
thing sea-dragon which does attack the ship only to be repelled by Hercules=
, much impressing the God of the Sea. After reaching Thrace Hercules is arr=
ested and seeks a sign from Zeus as to what he should do. Zeus lets slip a =
thunderbolt which Hercules interprets as a sign and he breaks his chains an=
d battles face to face Diomedes the King of Thrace. He defeats Diomedes the=
n proceeds to find the savage horses. These he does find and defeats in qui=
ck order by binding their fanged snouts, and taking them to King Eurystheus=
 much to the latter's great regret.=20

Next up is "The Hero Huang Gho" which is a text story telling of how the gr=
eat Genghis Khan ultimately failed to defeat the city of Cheng-Tse because =
it was defended by a forty-foot giant named Haugn Gho who was quite strong =
and could emit flames from his fingers. Khan sees the giant and decides to =
move his army around the city. There is speculation that the giant was mech=
anical.=20

Thane of Bagarth is again written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim A=
paro. The story picks up on a battlefield where King Beowulf's man Eadstan =
is recoving from being knocked out only to find a beautiful girl standing o=
ver him. It turns out to be Freahulf, the daughter of Daeghred the Scholar =
who had been taken captive by the Swedes but had escaped. Eadstan orders he=
r to follow him and they seek escape from the land of the Swedes. Meanwile =
the Geats fear Eadstan is dead and retreat. Then the story takes a most une=
xpected turn as we shift forward in time (and genre) to the year 2147 and m=
eet a Time Traveler and his daughter and her boyfriend John. Despite rules =
against it, the old man wants to travel to the past using his newly created=
 equipment. Despite warnings he does travel into the past, but his machine =
explodes leaving it to John and his daughter to repair it. Meanwhile (or ea=
rlier in time actually) the Traveller finds himself adrift but headed towar=
ds what appears to the Medieval past.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" closes out the comic this time. There a=
re three letters, most complimentary of the comic especially Thane of Bagar=
th. One writer does wonder what happened to the old Action Heroes, and is t=
old they are cancelled but may return some day. Another wishes Herucles wou=
ld fight fewer animals in the countryside and spent some more time in citie=
s. The editors say they'll pass the request to Gill and Glanman.=20

This is a weird issue. The Hercules story is becoming very formulaic. Hercu=
les gets task, completes task after some interference from either Hera or M=
ars or both, then agrivates Eurystheus by bringing his prize back to court.=
 This is at least the third time this formula has been used. Glanzman's art=
work is still exquisite and his panel arrangement is getting more experimen=
tal. Thane of Bagarth on the other hand spins completely away from its pres=
umed heading and introduces a science-fiction concept completely alien to w=
hat has gone on before. Despite comments that the Hercules book is selling =
well, changes like that in Thane of Bagarth suggest otherwise. The artwork =
is superb still though.

One fun thing about this comic is the inclusion of a Joe Weider ad featurin=
g muscle man Dave Draper. Seeing this in a Hercules comic is fun.

The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #9, the last issue of tha=
t 1980's run. To my knowledge the Thane of Bagarth story has not been repri=
nted.=20

More to come.=20







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I'm glad folks are enjoying these. They are fun and sometimes tedious to ma=
ke so I don't like to do them too often, but I've been yearning to do the A=
ction Heroes for some time. I really give the work a close reading when I k=
now I'm going to report and it's been several years since I read the Action=
 Heroes stuff, so it might just be time.=20

Dean

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> Thanks for this series of reviews.=A0 Hopefully you can do it with other =
titles as well.
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> From: ripjagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Hercules Reports #8
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:28 AM
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> =A0=20
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> Hercules #8 is in many ways the most peculiar of the run. The issue is da=
ted December 1968 and the cover is by Sam Glanzman. The comic is edited by =
Sal Gentile.=20
>=20
> The lead story is titled "The Boar" and was written by Joe Gill and illus=
trated by Sam Glanzman. Hercules goes to Hera's agent on Earth King Eurysth=
eus for his next task and is instructed that he must bring back the giant B=
oar of Mount Erymanthus and return the beast to the court of Eurytheus, and=
 further Hercules is only allowed to use the strength of his own hands to s=
ubdue the the monster. Hercules heads off on this task and climbs into the =
mountains. There he is attacked by giant monster birds with poisonous talon=
s, creations of Hera, but these disappear when Zeus orders her to cease her=
 attack. High in the snowy mountains Hercules comes across an encampment of=
 warriors, one of whom calls him a fool for taking on the Boar. Hercules cu=
ffs the mocker and then heads higher still to seek the Boar, which he is to=
ld will be easy since the monster will be hunting him. He finds the tracks =
but after following them for a while he gets concerned when it appears
>  the beast is circling around behind. Almost immediately the giant Boar a=
ttacks and Hercules wrestles it, finally getting atop its back. Sliding up =
and down the mountainside Hercules rides the Boar bareback for a week until=
 he at last tames the monster. This newly trained creature he rides back to=
 Eurytheus in triumph.=20
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> This lead story is shorter than usual coming in at twelve pages.=20
>=20
> Next is the letters page "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules". It features=
 two letters, one asking for original artwork. The response indicates eithe=
r it's policy not to release the originals or there's a legal liability for=
 doing it, the editors seem confused on that point. One letter writer makes=
 note that Dick Giordano is gone on the DC.
>=20
> "The Legend of Hercules" is a one-shot feature this issue. It's presumabl=
y written by Joe Gill and is certainly illustrated by Sam Glanzman. It rela=
tes the classic origin of Herucles, telling the story of how he killed serp=
ents in his crib and how he was trained by the centaurs in warcraft. There'=
s a spectacular full-page shot of Herucles in battle alongside Zeus and Her=
a against the Titans. Also it says that Hercules was on the voyage with Jas=
on and his Argonauts for the Golden Fleece. It is after this that Hercules =
seeks atonement, but it's unclear why, save that he seems ashamed he's huma=
n at all and not a full god. He goes to the Oracle of Delphi who sends him =
to Eurytheus. The six-page feature concludes with a summary of the previous=
 seven tasks Hercules had performed (Lion of Nemea, Gerion the Giant, Cereb=
us the Hound of Hades, Apples of Hesperides alongside Atlas, Amazons, Stymp=
halian Birds, and the Bull of Minos).=20
>=20
> Thane of Bagarth is written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim Aparo=
. This installment is titled "Chapter Eight: Escape". It begins with the al=
chemist Mordwain administering a drug to Hrothelac to give him strength, wh=
ich promptly knocks him out. The scene cuts to Beowulf's man Eadstan who le=
ads the Geats agains the Swedes in battle. The battle is brutal and at last=
 Eadstan is struck down, but is found by a Swedish servant girl. Back in En=
gland in the dungeon Hrothelac is awake and full of furious energy as he at=
tacks the door to his jail. The guards enter and Hrothelac attacks them esc=
aping. Mordwain escapes too. Hrothelac heads to the shore where another Vik=
ing ship approaches. But he collapses and is found by a band of Celtic vill=
agers.=20
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> The lead story was reprinted in Charlton Classics #8.
>=20
> Now Hercules #8 is unique. In addition to the four-color version I've det=
ailed above, there was issued presumably at the same time a magazine-size b=
lack and white version of the comic. It's similar but not identical to the =
color version. It's also dated December 1968. The cover is developed from a=
 panel by Sam Glanzman inside the story, and added is a figure of Hrothelac=
 Thane of Bagarth by Jim Aparo. (This is the only cover appearance by Thane=
 of Bagarth in its orignal run.) The lead story is titled "The Fantastic Gi=
ant Boar" and is largely the same story written by Joe Gill and illustrated=
 by Sam Glanzman from the color comic. The story though is reformatted and =
the twelve page story is expanded to twenty. This is done by blowing up cer=
tain panels and suchlike.=20
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> The rest of the contents is comprised of reprinted material from early is=
sues of Hercules. Next is the first Thane of Bagarth chapter followed by th=
e first Hercules story from Hercules #1. Then two additional chapters of Th=
ane of Bagarth (Chapters Two and Three) close out the magazine.=20
>=20
> I don't really know what Charlton was trying to do here. I presume they w=
ere exploring to see if Hercules would sell in other venues using the mater=
ial they'd developed. 1968 saw Marvel experiment with magazines, specifical=
ly the Spectacular Spider-Man books. And of course there was the relatively=
 ongoing success of Warren's line of books. There is not editorial in the m=
agazine to explain it. One small note though is that Sal Gentile is listed =
as the editor, despite the fact that most of the material in the magazine w=
as produced when Dick Giordano was editor of the line.=20
>=20
> I didn't get a copy of this magazine until many years after the fact, tho=
ugh I have a vague recollection of seeing it on stands at the time. It's a =
curiosity for sure, a real oddball relic from Charlton's oddball history.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
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Hercules #10 is dated April 1969. It features a dynamic cover by Sam Glanzm=
an and the comic is edited by Sal Gentile.=20

The lead story featuring Hercules is titled "The Ninth Head The Couldn't Di=
e" and it was written by Joe Gill and illstrated by Sam Glanzman. The story=
 opens with Hercules pleading to the gods but when Mars and Hera rain a sto=
rm on him he girds up and seeks out King Eurystheus for his next labor. Eur=
ystheus sends him to kill a monster near the well of Amymone in the Argosia=
n Swamp. Hercules is surprised he will be allowed to use weapons and so goe=
s to the Oracle of Plaeceum to find out more about his mysterious task. Whe=
n he tries to enter the cave of the Oracle he's confronted with horrific fi=
re-breathing monster but he doesn't back down and the creature transforms i=
nto a beautiful black-tressed woman but then her hair begins to strangle He=
rcules and he attacks her with is sword saying "Touche'". She transforms ag=
ain into a hag and then tells him of the Lernaen Hydra the monster with nin=
e heads, one of them immortal. The scene cuts to Olympus where Zeus enjoys =
a repast and he learns of the task set before his son. Hercules goes to the=
 swamp and almost immediately confronts the Hydra and begins to cut off its=
 heads only to see each one he severs replaced by two more. Finally he trie=
s to sever the main head and his sword clangs off in futiltiy. Hercules res=
ponds with a "Oh, Golly!". Meanwhile an ally of Hercules, a boy named Iolau=
s shows up with a torch and Hercules borrows it to burn off the heads he se=
vers and this seems to work. Then a giant crab attacks but Hercules dispatc=
hes this beast sent by Hera. Turning his attention back to the Hydra he cut=
s off more heads then climbs a giant boulder and finally is able to cut the=
 main head. He then takes the boulder and crashes it down on the monster de=
feating it. The story closes with Hercules leaving the swamp triumphant and=
 Mars saying to Hera "Gee, Ma I hate that Kid."

"Mountain Man Morgan in Tornado Trouble" relates a tall tale about the gian=
t Mountain Man Morgan and how he shows up to help the railroad lay tracks b=
y various means using his great strength. Ultimately she stops a tornado by=
 using his lungs to create a counterforce wind. This tale is very similar t=
o the previous text story about Morgan.=20

Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Ten: From The Future!" and was written =
by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim Aparo. The story begins with fallen=
 form of Hrothelac, the banished Thane of Bagarth, as he is found by Celts =
and taken to their village and tended to. The scene cuts to the Time Travel=
er as he lands in England and eludes some warriors. Anther scene shift take=
s us back to the land of the Swedes where King Beowfulf's man Eadstan disco=
vers his men have left the area, so he finds a horse and takes the beautifu=
l Freahulf and they ride back to the land of the Geats. In that land the tr=
aitor Eowand, the current Thane of Bagarth plots to use the absence of Eads=
tan to further his ambitions.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" features three letters this time. One i=
s from Sam Glanzman himself and he addresses the question of the slanted ey=
es of Hercules, pointing out that the slanted eyes he gives to Hercules ori=
ginate from the designs on Greek vases and have nothing to do with Asians a=
nd "Asian villains", who by the way don't have "slanted" eyes anyway. He of=
fers up a chart to prove his point. The other letters compliment the book b=
ut complain that it's difficult to find back issues of the comic. The edito=
rs say they'll pass this on to the distribution guys.=20

This is a really offbeat issue. Sam Glanzman is clearly exerting himself tr=
ying to make the book more exotic in its design. Many of the pages use very=
 baroque and detailed elements to break up the panel structure. The word "M=
od" is used by the editors in the letters page at one point and I assume th=
at's what they are trying to do with the comic, make it more hip somehow. T=
he changes are also seen in the dialogue. As noted some of the lines in the=
 lead Hercules story have a very different tone, very modern. It's a bit ja=
rring, but clearly they are trying to pitch this comic to a more sophistica=
ted crowd. The changes in the Thane of Bagarth storyline presumably come fr=
om the same motivation. There's not doubt that the comic is changing.

This comic was largely reprinted under the Modern Comics label in the 1970'=
s.=20

More to come.=20





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Hercules #11 is dated May 1969. It features one of Sam Glanzman's best cove=
rs for the series. The comic was edited by Sal Gentile.=20

The lead Hercules story is titled "The Trophy Hunter" and it's divided into=
 two parts. The story was written by Joe Gill and illustrated by Sam Glanzm=
an. The first part opens with Hercules knocking out some nameless opponent =
and deals with a ploy of Hera's to lure Hercules to Olympus to embarass him=
. She invites him and he's so overcome with pride he beats his chest creati=
ng an avalanche. His response to this is "Aww, I done it again!". Hera and =
all the gods of Olympus look forward to the feast celebrating Hercules and =
even Zeus seems fooled by Hera's plot. Zeus sends Apollo on his chariot to =
fetch the Man-God who suffers as they pass the sun. In Olympus he bows to Z=
eus and gets into a contest of grips with Mars that creates a thunderstorm =
on Earth. During the meal Hera uses her magic to make Hercules clumsy and t=
hen pretends to be a serving girl to make him look boorish and rude. Mars a=
nd Hercules face off and Hercules lands a solid punch on the War God who re=
sponds by sending Hercules back to Earth to face his cousin King Eurystheus=
 for his next labor.=20

Part II is titled "The Prey" and it begins with view of the mountains betwe=
en Arcadia and Achaia where stands a robust and magnificent Hind. Hercules =
comes from the shadows to leap on the giant deer but it escapes and the cha=
se continues out of the mountains into the desert where the stifling heat c=
auses Hercules to collapse. The Hind though returns to the Man God and uses=
 it hooves to dig up water for the man chasing it. Hercules then uses his r=
ope to snare the Hind and eventually subdues it. He carries it to the court=
 of King Eurystheus but then unleashes it allowing it escape. He has done w=
hat was asked and no more. If Hera wants the beast, then it will have to ca=
ptured again.=20

"Mountain Man Morgan -- Tame The Tracks" offers up another text story, a ta=
ll tale about the railroad and the giant Morgan's efforts to help it succee=
d. In this story he has to tear up some tracks and replace them so that the=
 two ends will meet. He does so, once again saving the railroad from ruin.=
=20

Thane of Bagarth undergoes a big change this time. The story is again writt=
en by Steve Skeates but the art this time is taken on by Sanho Kim. The tal=
e is titled "Chapter Eleven: Beowulf's Decision" and opens in the year 2174=
 where the Time Traveler's daughter and her boyfriend find his notes and de=
bate how best to rebuild his machine and hopefully save him. There is a bri=
ef glimpse of the Time Traveler before the scene shifts to the still uncons=
cious Hrothelac, the banished Thane of Bagarth who is being tended in a Cel=
tic village. The scene shifts again to the Land of the Geats where the curr=
ent Thane of Bagarth the treacherous Eowanda plots to take over the warrior=
s of Beowulf and perhaps takes Beowulf's place entirely. Beowulf fearing Eo=
wanda's ambition leads his troops into battle despite his age and illness. =
As they head to battle, Beowulf's man Eadstan with the serf girl Freahulf r=
ide back to the Land of the Geats but encounter a Swede who is dispatched b=
y Eadstan. Back in the Celtic village Hrothelac has a dream in which he bat=
tles Eowanda, Beowulf, and Eadstan. As he battles in his dreams he gets out=
 of bed and collapses. The Celts tending him annnounce that he is dead.

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" features three letters this time, and a=
ll of them talk not only about Herc but about other cancelled Charlton comi=
cs. There seems to be a great demand to bring back the Action Heroes. One l=
etter writer complains again about Herc's "oriental" look but the editors s=
ay it's what Sam Glanzman wants and that's it. On a sad note, the death of =
Rocke Mastroserio in February 1968 is noted.=20

This issue of Hercules continues the changes in the series. The artwork by =
Glanzman on the lead feature gets more and more experimental as he plays wi=
th panel design and even changes up his style within the story. It's really=
 quite attractive. One new trick is using words like "Anger" and such to su=
rround characters as they argue, an attempt to heighten I suppose the emoti=
onal impact of the stories. This apparently will be the last of the Hercule=
s stories to deal with his Twelve Labors despite the fact he's only done el=
even of them. The cleaning of the Augean Stables I guess wasn't considered =
dramatic enough for a comic presentation. The storyline will shift a bit ne=
xt time.=20

This comic was mostly reprinted in Modern Comics Hercules #11.=20

More to come.=20







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Hercules #12 is dated July 1969. The cover is another excellent one by Sam =
Glanzman, and the issue is again edited by Sal Gentile.=20

The Hercules story this time is titled "The Wrath of the Gods" and it was w=
ritten by Joe Gill and illustrated by Sam Glanzman. As this story opens, He=
rcules has completed his Twelve Labors (though we've only seen eleven in th=
e series to date) and he is demanding that he be elevated to Olympus. Mars =
takes objection but is chastened by Zeus with a burst of fire. Hera shows u=
p and suggests a banquet in the honor of Hercules and she goes to Earth and=
 personally invites the Man God who is of course suspicious but accepts any=
way when Zeus speaks up. Hercules then dashes off to cleanse himself in a b=
ath for the feast then awaits his ride, the Chariot of Apollo shows up and =
takes him to Olympus. At the feast Hercules is invited to tell the tale of =
his Twelve Labors which he does though he gets the order of their accomplis=
hment different than what we've seen in the series so far. His story though=
 proves somewhat dull to the guests who nod off, then Mars in a rage calls =
Hercules a liar for claiming to have done such great things. Hercules in re=
spect for his host ignores this challenge, but finally Mars splashes him wi=
th wine and even Zeus wonders why his son won't retaliate, then he gives th=
em express permission to battle and the fight is on. The battle through the=
 castle of the gods and then Mars uses his godly powers to hit Hercules wit=
h a lightning bolt. Hercules is stunned and despairs since he doesn't have =
such powers. Then Zeus gives him such power and he throws a bolt back at Ma=
rs stunning him. The two lock up in a show of strength that causes havoc on=
 Earth until finally Mars lands a blow to Hercules that sends him flying do=
wn through the clouds out of Olympus itself. Hercules lands on Earth and re=
marks about what a grand party it was and how he'll have to stay longer nex=
t time.=20

"Man Mountain Morgan in Tough Tommy Turner" offers up another prose tall ta=
le of the giant who assisted the railroads. This time there's a ruffian nam=
ed Tommy Turner and his gang who are stealing supplies. Morgan goes to find=
 them, and using a special sound sends their horses running. He then bundle=
s the wagons together and drags the stolen supplies back to the railroad ca=
mp, and then turns the thieves over to the law.=20

Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Twelve: Melting in the Dark" and it was=
 written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Sanho Kim. It begins with the =
"dead" body of Hrothelac, the banished Thane of Bagarth in the Celtic villa=
ge. But in another world, a dream world Hrothelac is awake and full armored=
. He is told by a voice that he must seek out strange creatures and battle =
to gain his revenge. A giant green four-armed monster stalks from the shado=
ws and Hrothelac battles it finally slaying it with a thrown sword. Meanwhi=
le the Celts are amazed that the dead body of Hrothelac is moving in the re=
al world. At this moment a warning comes that Vikings are invading the vill=
age and the Celts rise to the defense. The scene changes to a misty nowhere=
 in which the Time Traveler is once again flying to a new location in time =
and space, finding himself in front of a cave and a sorceress, but before t=
he sorceress can strike him with a spell he disappears again. The last scen=
e show Eowanda, the current Thane of Bagarth plotting in his castle.

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" offers up two letters this time. One ta=
lks extensively about the defunct Action Hero line and how they should be b=
roght back. The editors agree but say that's the way of publishing. The rep=
eat a claim made in many letters pages that Hercules is selling very well a=
nd in fact seems to do better each month. The second letter speculate on wh=
y Hera hates Hercules so. Also included on this page is a neat design by St=
eve Ditko featuring both the new Blue Beetle and the redesined Captain Atom=
.=20

The series reaches its climax of sorts with this issue. The Labors are done=
, and though the Augean Stables is not shown in the series it is mentioned =
here when Hercules relates his experiences. The new pattern in the series s=
eems to be to pit Hercules against Mars each issue. Their enmity has been g=
rowing steadily and this issue seems to be all about that struggle between =
these two sons of Zeus. Glanzman's artwork continues to loosen with more ex=
perimentation in layout each issue. The Thane of Bagarth storyline is becom=
ing more and more fantastical as the Time Traveler jets all over and the dr=
eam battles of Hrothelac at least get our hero up and moving. He's been rem=
arkably passive during the series.=20

This issue has been reprinted a few times I think by ACG/Avalon. For sure i=
t was reprinted in Hercules #1 and I think it also was reprinted in Tales o=
f the Man-God Hercules #1. The Hercules versus Mars stories are good for th=
is since they are self-contained for the most part unlike the Twelve Labors=
. The Thane of Bagarth story has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20

One more to come.=20





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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>
> Hercules #12 is dated July 1969. The cover is another excellent one by Sa=
m Glanzman, and the issue is again edited by Sal Gentile.=20
>=20
> The Hercules story this time is titled "The Wrath of the Gods" and it was=
 written by Joe Gill and illustrated by Sam Glanzman. As this story opens, =
Hercules has completed his Twelve Labors (though we've only seen eleven in =
the series to date) and he is demanding that he be elevated to Olympus. Mar=
s takes objection but is chastened by Zeus with a burst of fire. Hera shows=
 up and suggests a banquet in the honor of Hercules and she goes to Earth a=
nd personally invites the Man God who is of course suspicious but accepts a=
nyway when Zeus speaks up. Hercules then dashes off to cleanse himself in a=
 bath for the feast then awaits his ride, the Chariot of Apollo shows up an=
d takes him to Olympus. At the feast Hercules is invited to tell the tale o=
f his Twelve Labors which he does though he gets the order of their accompl=
ishment different than what we've seen in the series so far. His story thou=
gh proves somewhat dull to the guests who nod off, then Mars in a rage call=
s Hercules a liar for claiming to have done such great things. Hercules in =
respect for his host ignores this challenge, but finally Mars splashes him =
with wine and even Zeus wonders why his son won't retaliate, then he gives =
them express permission to battle and the fight is on. The battle through t=
he castle of the gods and then Mars uses his godly powers to hit Hercules w=
ith a lightning bolt. Hercules is stunned and despairs since he doesn't hav=
e such powers. Then Zeus gives him such power and he throws a bolt back at =
Mars stunning him. The two lock up in a show of strength that causes havoc =
on Earth until finally Mars lands a blow to Hercules that sends him flying =
down through the clouds out of Olympus itself. Hercules lands on Earth and =
remarks about what a grand party it was and how he'll have to stay longer n=
ext time.=20
>=20
> "Man Mountain Morgan in Tough Tommy Turner" offers up another prose tall =
tale of the giant who assisted the railroads. This time there's a ruffian n=
amed Tommy Turner and his gang who are stealing supplies. Morgan goes to fi=
nd them, and using a special sound sends their horses running. He then bund=
les the wagons together and drags the stolen supplies back to the railroad =
camp, and then turns the thieves over to the law.=20
>=20
> Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Twelve: Melting in the Dark" and it w=
as written by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Sanho Kim. It begins with th=
e "dead" body of Hrothelac, the banished Thane of Bagarth in the Celtic vil=
lage. But in another world, a dream world Hrothelac is awake and full armor=
ed. He is told by a voice that he must seek out strange creatures and battl=
e to gain his revenge. A giant green four-armed monster stalks from the sha=
dows and Hrothelac battles it finally slaying it with a thrown sword. Meanw=
hile the Celts are amazed that the dead body of Hrothelac is moving in the =
real world. At this moment a warning comes that Vikings are invading the vi=
llage and the Celts rise to the defense. The scene changes to a misty nowhe=
re in which the Time Traveler is once again flying to a new location in tim=
e and space, finding himself in front of a cave and a sorceress, but before=
 the sorceress can strike him with a spell he disappears again. The last sc=
ene show Eowanda, the current Thane of Bagarth plotting in his castle.
>=20
> "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" offers up two letters this time. One =
talks extensively about the defunct Action Hero line and how they should be=
 broght back. The editors agree but say that's the way of publishing. The r=
epeat a claim made in many letters pages that Hercules is selling very well=
 and in fact seems to do better each month. The second letter speculate on =
why Hera hates Hercules so. Also included on this page is a neat design by =
Steve Ditko featuring both the new Blue Beetle and the redesined Captain At=
om.=20
>=20
> The series reaches its climax of sorts with this issue. The Labors are do=
ne, and though the Augean Stables is not shown in the series it is mentione=
d here when Hercules relates his experiences. The new pattern in the series=
 seems to be to pit Hercules against Mars each issue. Their enmity has been=
 growing steadily and this issue seems to be all about that struggle betwee=
n these two sons of Zeus. Glanzman's artwork continues to loosen with more =
experimentation in layout each issue. The Thane of Bagarth storyline is bec=
oming more and more fantastical as the Time Traveler jets all over and the =
dream battles of Hrothelac at least get our hero up and moving. He's been r=
emarkably passive during the series.=20
>=20
> This issue has been reprinted a few times I think by ACG/Avalon. For sure=
 it was reprinted in Hercules #1 and I think it also was reprinted in Tales=
 of the Man-God Hercules #1. The Hercules versus Mars stories are good for =
this since they are self-contained for the most part unlike the Twelve Labo=
rs. The Thane of Bagarth story has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
>=20
> One more to come.
>
The thing about the Hercules series is that I only read an issue or two whe=
n it first came out, as Charlton distribution was pretty spotty here in Sou=
thern Indiana.  And, some of the Hercules reprints done by Roger Broughton.

     Allen Smith


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Hercules #13 is the last original issue of the run from Charlton. The comic=
 is dated September 1969. The cover is by Sam Glanzman, the guy who has don=
e all the covers for the series. The comic is edited by Sal Gentile.

The lead story of Hercules is untitled this time out unless you use the tit=
le on the cover "Hercules Wears the Armor of the Gods". It was written by J=
oe Gill and illustrated by Sam Glanzman. It begins with a symbolic splash p=
age showing Hercules and Mars fighting with Zeus and Hera looking on. The s=
tory begins in Greece with Hercules being hassled by some soldiers who clea=
rly don't seem to know who he is. The battle is one whe Mars hurls his war =
hammer to Earth literally zapping Hercules. The soldiers run off and Mars m=
aterializes and faces off against Hercules. They wrestle and fight for a ti=
me after Zeus gives the okay and then Mars offers Hercules a free punch at =
his jaw. Hercules takes advantage and knocks the War God out. Hera is unhap=
py but Zeus tells her to be quiet about it, though she doesn't comply. Dian=
a the goddess of the hunt agrees with Zeus and tells Hera so. Later she app=
ears at the camp of Hercules where he's eating some captured game and takes=
 him by means of riding a moonbeam to Olympus for another feast among the g=
ods. But quickly a fight between Hercules and Mars erupts ending with Mars =
throwing Hercules out of Olympus down through some clouds. Zeus intervenes =
though and brings the Man God back to Olympus. He then arranges for Hercule=
s to get some of the armor of the gods manufactured by Vulcan. With his new=
 gear Hercules is able to withstand the attacks of Mars and in fact Mars br=
eaks his sword against the body of Hecules, specifically his face. This sto=
ps the fight and Hercules gives back his godly armor and returns to Earth a=
wait the day he will be among the gods of Olympus permanently. The story en=
ds with Hercules sitting contented around his humble campfire.=20

"Mountain Man Morgan in New War Dance" is yet another tall tale of the gian=
t who helped build the railroads. This one is pretty imaginative, and has M=
organ get his friends the Indians to literally war dance on the stones that=
 form the rockbed for the railroad. Their dancing breaks up the stones so t=
he rails will seat properly. Morgan meanwhile shattes boulders to help supp=
ly stone. The Indians seem quite happy about this solution and indicate at =
the end of the story they want some payment for their work for new wigwams.

Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Thirteen: Revenge" and is written by St=
eve Skeates and illustrated by Sanho Kim. The story begins with the Time Tr=
aveler who is lost in a dark cave. He finds himself in the dream of Hrothel=
ac, the banished Thane of Bagarth and the two meet. Then another green four=
-armed monster attacks and Hrothelac kills it. Then just as quickly as he a=
rrived the Time Traveler disappears. Hrothelac is then told by a voice that=
 he must battle more monsters and such before he can have his revenge. The =
scene shifts to the Celts battling against invading Vikings and losing. The=
 final shift in scene for the series features the Time Traveler again and t=
his time he finds himself trillion of miles away from Earth opn another pla=
net in another galaxy, and he is most confused. The next chapter is suppose=
d to feature Eowanda, but it will never be.=20

"Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" features three letters this time, one b=
y Tony Isabella. One compliments the series to date, while Isabella runs do=
wn several series he's following from Charlton. The editors even note that =
they cut his letter down quite a bit. Their response to him indicates the f=
uture of Charlton as they say that superheroes have seen their day for the =
time being but that war, romance, and westerns are the consistent sellers f=
or the company.=20

This final Hercules issue is a very different experience from the debut iss=
ue two years earlier. Most dramatically is the shift in the classical myth =
approach taken early on. The stories have gotten more and more modern in th=
eir feel and character as the series has developed, and that seems to be th=
e result of clear editorial mandate. The artwork of Sam Glanzman has really=
 undergone a transformation with this final issue really opening up in term=
s of layout design. Much is done with words indicating mood and emotion and=
 the layouts seem to thematically inform the work itself such as the use of=
 a peace sympbol to frame the moments when Hercules gets his armor.=20

This series is one of my childhood delights. I've not read these issues thr=
ough probably since I first got them, though I've taken them out many times=
 and read an issue here and there. The confused saga of Bagarth is sad real=
ly given the immense promise of the scenario initiated by Steve Skeates ear=
ly on. A sequel to Beowulf is a clever notion, but it becomes a bit of mush=
 as the series introduces odd elements of sci-fi and seems to become bogged=
 down in its own plot.=20

It's clear that once they finished the Twelve Labors the staff of Charlton =
really didn't know what to do with Hercules. The last several issues have b=
een mostly stories about dinner parties and sibling strife. Surely if the s=
eries had continued they would've shifted the storyline forward, but we'll =
never know.=20

As I've noted the series has been reprinted many times by ACG/Avalon. I eve=
n found a "new" reprint version of the series just yesterday from them that=
 I didn't know about. These stories have a real modern feel to them that st=
ands out from much of the material Charlton produced at the time. They are =
at once timeless and of their time.=20

I've enjoyed this review series, and I hope it has given at least some insi=
ght into this most peculiar series.=20

No more Hercules to come. That's a wrap. Thanks for reading.

Dean





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Dean, I've been enjoying your Hercules book reports very much. I missed thi=
s series when it was new and only discovered it a decade ago. Your reviews =
really put the whole series in perspective, so now I've got to go dig the b=
ooks out for a good reread!

-Mike A.


> Hercules #10 is dated April 1969. It features a dynamic cover by Sam Glan=
zman and the comic is edited by Sal Gentile.=20
>=20
> The lead story featuring Hercules is titled "The Ninth Head The Couldn't =
Die" and it was written by Joe Gill and illstrated by Sam Glanzman. The sto=
ry opens with Hercules pleading to the gods but when Mars and Hera rain a s=
torm on him he girds up and seeks out King Eurystheus for his next labor. E=
urystheus sends him to kill a monster near the well of Amymone in the Argos=
ian Swamp. Hercules is surprised he will be allowed to use weapons and so g=
oes to the Oracle of Plaeceum to find out more about his mysterious task. W=
hen he tries to enter the cave of the Oracle he's confronted with horrific =
fire-breathing monster but he doesn't back down and the creature transforms=
 into a beautiful black-tressed woman but then her hair begins to strangle =
Hercules and he attacks her with is sword saying "Touche'". She transforms =
again into a hag and then tells him of the Lernaen Hydra the monster with n=
ine heads, one of them immortal. The scene cuts to Olympus where Zeus enjoy=
s a repast and he learns of the task set before his son. Hercules goes to t=
he swamp and almost immediately confronts the Hydra and begins to cut off i=
ts heads only to see each one he severs replaced by two more. Finally he tr=
ies to sever the main head and his sword clangs off in futiltiy. Hercules r=
esponds with a "Oh, Golly!". Meanwhile an ally of Hercules, a boy named Iol=
aus shows up with a torch and Hercules borrows it to burn off the heads he =
severs and this seems to work. Then a giant crab attacks but Hercules dispa=
tches this beast sent by Hera. Turning his attention back to the Hydra he c=
uts off more heads then climbs a giant boulder and finally is able to cut t=
he main head. He then takes the boulder and crashes it down on the monster =
defeating it. The story closes with Hercules leaving the swamp triumphant a=
nd Mars saying to Hera "Gee, Ma I hate that Kid."
>=20
> "Mountain Man Morgan in Tornado Trouble" relates a tall tale about the gi=
ant Mountain Man Morgan and how he shows up to help the railroad lay tracks=
 by various means using his great strength. Ultimately she stops a tornado =
by using his lungs to create a counterforce wind. This tale is very similar=
 to the previous text story about Morgan.=20
>=20
> Thane of Bagarth is titled "Chapter Ten: From The Future!" and was writte=
n by Steve Skeates and illustrated by Jim Aparo. The story begins with fall=
en form of Hrothelac, the banished Thane of Bagarth, as he is found by Celt=
s and taken to their village and tended to. The scene cuts to the Time Trav=
eler as he lands in England and eludes some warriors. Anther scene shift ta=
kes us back to the land of the Swedes where King Beowfulf's man Eadstan dis=
covers his men have left the area, so he finds a horse and takes the beauti=
ful Freahulf and they ride back to the land of the Geats. In that land the =
traitor Eowand, the current Thane of Bagarth plots to use the absence of Ea=
dstan to further his ambitions.=20
>=20
> "Letters to the Editor -- Hercules" features three letters this time. One=
 is from Sam Glanzman himself and he addresses the question of the slanted =
eyes of Hercules, pointing out that the slanted eyes he gives to Hercules o=
riginate from the designs on Greek vases and have nothing to do with Asians=
 and "Asian villains", who by the way don't have "slanted" eyes anyway. He =
offers up a chart to prove his point. The other letters compliment the book=
 but complain that it's difficult to find back issues of the comic. The edi=
tors say they'll pass this on to the distribution guys.=20
>=20
> This is a really offbeat issue. Sam Glanzman is clearly exerting himself =
trying to make the book more exotic in its design. Many of the pages use ve=
ry baroque and detailed elements to break up the panel structure. The word =
"Mod" is used by the editors in the letters page at one point and I assume =
that's what they are trying to do with the comic, make it more hip somehow.=
 The changes are also seen in the dialogue. As noted some of the lines in t=
he lead Hercules story have a very different tone, very modern. It's a bit =
jarring, but clearly they are trying to pitch this comic to a more sophisti=
cated crowd. The changes in the Thane of Bagarth storyline presumably come =
from the same motivation. There's not doubt that the comic is changing.
>=20
> This comic was largely reprinted under the Modern Comics label in the 197=
0's.=20
>=20
> More to come.
>



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I'd love to round up those Hercules ACG/Avalon reprints. I stumble across a=
 new version all the time. By my count Hercules has been reprinted in four =
different places by Broughton, though never the complete run.=20

> >
> The thing about the Hercules series is that I only read an issue or two w=
hen it first came out, as Charlton distribution was pretty spotty here in S=
outhern Indiana.  And, some of the Hercules reprints done by Roger Broughto=
n.
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>      Allen Smith
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I'm glad you're liking them. These books have always had a charm for me. He=
rucles #4 was one of the first books I ever bought for myself and I remembe=
r at the time it went right along with Marvel's Captain Marvel and DC's The=
 Flash as a fave comic. It wasn't until later that I began to become a snob=
by Marvel fanboy and scoff at such things. Fortunately I got over that quic=
kly with the advent of E-Man and the Wildman era.

Dean


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> Dean, I've been enjoying your Hercules book reports very much. I missed t=
his series when it was new and only discovered it a decade ago. Your review=
s really put the whole series in perspective, so now I've got to go dig the=
 books out for a good reread!
>=20
> -Mike A.
>=20
>=20



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 I'm looking forward to going back over these as soon as I have a chance to dig out my Hercules issues (mostly Modern reprint editions, alas) from my short boxes. Except for Gold Key's Ripley's Believe It or Not (starting with #5, toward the end of my 2nd-grade year), I'm pretty sure that Herc was the first comic I ever bought more than one issue of, beginning probably with #6. (Evidently, I had a real weakness for non-Big-Two titles even in grade school.) 

Dan

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                  I'm glad you're liking them. These books have always had a charm for me. Herucles #4 was one of the first books I ever bought for myself and I remember at the time it went right along with Marvel's Captain Marvel and DC's The Flash as a fave comic. It wasn't until later that I began to become a snobby Marvel fanboy and scoff at such things. Fortunately I got over that quickly with the advent of E-Man and the Wildman era.

Dean

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>
> Dean, I've been enjoying your Hercules book reports very much. I missed this series when it was new and only discovered it a decade ago. Your reviews really put the whole series in perspective, so now I've got to go dig the books out for a good reread!
> 
> -Mike A.
> 
> 

               
					

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http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/16/at-last-some-real-information/

yes, you have to go there to read about it.

steven (not my site) rowe

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Yeah,your link gives a "not found" message.=A0 Just use
www.comicbitsonline.com
=A0
Terry [quite right,its MY site!}

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To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, gcd-chat@=
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Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 10:10 PM


=A0=20



http://www.comicbit sonline.com/ 2009/08/16/ at-last-some- real-information=
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yes, you have to go there to read about it.

steven (not my site) rowe
















=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Try these links:=20=20


http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/17/wow-really-quick-reaction/
http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/16/4905/

Michael Brown

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> http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/16/at-last-some-real-information/
>=20
> yes, you have to go there to read about it.
>=20
> steven (not my site) rowe
>



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first time I've ever been confused with Steve Bissette  though....

in one of the other groups, it was remarked  that Kim is producing
fake history books now - a
popular trend in many countries.

steven rowe


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>
> Try these links:
>
> http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/17/wow-really-quick-reaction/
> http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/16/4905/
>
> Michael Brown
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, s r <sangorshop@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2009/08/16/at-last-some-real-information/
>>
>> yes, you have to go there to read about it.
>>
>> steven (not my site) rowe
>>
>
>=20

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Subject: Dave Sim Charlton Alert!
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I just chanced across the info that Cerebus Archives #3 scheduled for next =
week will show some work by Dave Sim for a failed attempt to join the Charl=
ton ranks. A rejection letter by George Wildman is included and specificall=
y mentioned. This behind-the-scenes stuff should be quite interesting.=20

Here's a link:

http://www.tfaw.com/Coming-Next-Week/Profile/Cerebus-Archive-3___348125


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Subject: Cerebus Archives #3!
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This is a neat little tome for Charlton completists. Dave Sim is documentin=
g his journey to become a professional comics talent, and is supplying old =
stories he crafted back in the day to win over various editors at various v=
enues. This issue focuses on Charlton, a company Sim perceived to be a ligh=
tweight color Warren. The stories he submitted to George Wildman are here a=
s well as Wildman's responses to Sim's attempts to woo him for work. Sim is=
 rejected, but gently by the editor of Charlton. Sim points out the weaknes=
s in the works he submitted and admits perhaps too readily why Charlton wou=
ld reject them.=20

In addition to the stories and the rejection letters, we also get a few Dav=
e Sim renditions of some Charlton features, specifically an E-Man splash an=
d a rendering of The Phantom. This is a thin comic for the price, but as so=
meone fascinated by Charlton lore, I enjoyed it.

Recommended.

Dean


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Subject: Space Adventures #2!
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I was surprised to find a second adventure of Paul Mann, a reporter who we =
first met in UFO Adventures. Maybe at a later date I can offer up a detaile=
d report on this issue.=20

Dean=20


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I look forward to it


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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Space Adventures #2 - A Tale About Time!
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And it's about time I got around to finally presenting this second issue of=
 Charlton's vintage space age series. Paul Mann is the reporter and star of=
 the oddly numbered Space Adventures Presents UFO #1.

What I didn't realize until I snapped open this comic was that Paul Mann's =
adventures with the aliens continues in this second issue. Officially this =
is "Space Adventures Vol.1 No.2 July 1968". The cover is by both Pat Boyett=
e and Jim Aparo as it blends two images from inside the comic. The falling =
figure of Paul Mann is by Boyette and the spaceship battle is by Aparo.=20

The complete story titled I think "A Tale About Time" was written by Sergiu=
s O'Shaugnessy the pseudonym of Denny O'Neil. All three artists for this co=
mic are credited on the splash page. The artists are Boyette, Aparo, and St=
eve Ditko. The comic was edited by Sal Gentile though that fact is only ind=
icated in the indicia. This is during the transition from Dick Giordano to =
Gentile and so it's likely this issue was actually put together under Giord=
ano's regime.

Chapter One titled "The Quest Begins" was drawn by Jim Aparo picks up where=
 the last comic ended with a summary of those events. Paul Mann speaks dire=
ctly to the reader, breaking the fourth wall, and reflects on his first enc=
ounter with Esrom Nation from the future and their enemies the Honjnos Nati=
on. They have traveled back in time to wage their war. Paul Mann a reporter=
 looking into the UFO sightings was tapped by the Esromians to become their=
 emissary. Eight months have passed since those events and once again Mann =
finds himself seeing a UFO while out hunting deer. In fact he sees a battle=
 and is soon drawn into it when the Esromians and Honjnosians come to groun=
d. We get our first look at a Honjnosian and they are predictably evil look=
ing when contrasted to the lighter skinned big-skulled Esromians. The Honjn=
osians are downright BEMish looking and all orange. The Esromian tells Mann=
 that they must find a scientist named Boris Bronsky because he develops a =
weapon that will defend against the Honjnosians, a force field. History say=
s Bronsky will disappear the Esromians want to get to him first. They enlis=
t Mann and soon are zinging to Venice where Mann meets Bronsky who is suspi=
cious. Before Mann can actually do anything though Honjnosians appear and v=
aporize Bronsky. Mann escapes and finds refuge in an apartment in Venice.=20

Chapter Two was drawn by Steve Ditko and is titled "Race To the End of Time=
". We pick up with Mann in Venice who quickly hooks up with the Esromians a=
gain in their spaceship and is transported back in time following the Honjn=
osians to 1195 AD in England. Why is a mystery but quickly Mann and the ali=
en are attacked by locals who turn out to be the men of the Sheriff of Nott=
ingham and quick as wink they are saved from hanging by a band of Merry Men=
 led by of course Robin Hood. After a chat among themselves Mann and Esromi=
ans continue their quest to follow the Honjnosians back in time, assuming t=
he latter are trying to return to the future by looping all the way through=
 the past. This ends up throwing the Esromian ship into a Negative Universe=
 but they survive for the third and final chapter.=20

Chapter Three is titled "There Shall Be an Ending!" and it was drawn by Pat=
 Boyette. The Esromians survive the Negative detour and keep after their en=
emies finally finding them and then dramtically crashing thier ship into th=
em locking the two vehicles together. Together the two ships head back and =
find the 20th century. They land but the crash has destroyed their capacity=
 to travel in time. Luckily they are on a deserted island. They search the =
Honjnosian ship for Bronsky's plans but instead find a living Honjnosian an=
d a fight ensues killing the last Esromian. Paul Mann retaliates and knocks=
 the last Honjnosian into a volcano as Bronsky's papers fly out to sea. Man=
n then has a final conversation with the dying Esromian who thanks him for =
his help in stopping the threat and then Mann carries the alien down off th=
e volcano and buries him. Mann is then rescued a few days later by a fisher=
man and finds himself confined to the state hospital. It is from there that=
 he has been telling his story to the reader. He closes by imploring the re=
aders to keep looking for Bronsky's papers and if they find them bring them=
 to him or to Charlton Publications in Derby, Connecticut. After that pleas=
 Paul Mann lies down and goes to sleep. The story concludes with the crypti=
c words "Perhaps this is...The End".=20

The comic also includes a text story titled "A Living Death" about a convic=
ted murderer who is seemingly revived after his execution by a mysterious s=
cientist who then is himself killed by the brain-damaged prisoner, who is t=
hen transferred to the state mental hospital.=20

This story of Paul Man isn't as strong as the first one. But it does have t=
he virtue of not being encumbered with the retro-fitted vintage story that =
apparently sparked the whole storyline. This story does have a coherence mi=
ssing from the first UFO saga. But that doesn't mean the plot works all tha=
t well. There's a lot of random stuff here and frankly I got the sense that=
 there was a lot of scripting after the fact to make the elements hang toge=
ther as well as they did. I do like stories that break the Fourth Wall, and=
 this one does it with gusto. A character who is aware of themselves as par=
t of a cast in a story adds a layer of irony to the proceedings and helps t=
o leaven the plot holes a bit. The artwork is dandy throughout.=20

This is Paul Mann's second and final appearance as far as I know. Since the=
re is no more Charlton Publications, if anyone does find the Bronsky papers=
 I guess the secret of the defense against the Honjnosians will disappear a=
s much as Bronsky himself. It can be argued I guess that since the broader =
readership of comics didn't support Charlton way back when, they have poten=
tially brought about the end of civilization as we know it. I'm just saying=
.=20=20


Rip Off


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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Captain Cosmos - The Last Starveyer!
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I'm an unabashed fan of E-Man and of its creators Nick Cuti and Joe Staton.=
=20

Several years ago they worked together to create a comic about Captain Cosm=
os, a throwback hero to the heyday of rockets and spaceflight. This is the =
brainchild of Cuti, and in addition to the comic book (which has been at la=
st count published by three different publishers and is on hiatus now I sup=
pose) there are radio adventures and TV shows. I even learned there's a nov=
el version of the character.=20

Nick is the nicest guy in the world, and I find it easy to support his effo=
rts. So I found the collected TV shows on Amazon and ordered them right awa=
y. Then I stumbled on the existence of the novel and ordered one of those t=
oo. I'm digging out my comics and giving them another good read.

There's nothing as sweet as some good Cuti-Staton comic book action. I'm co=
nfident the other formats will be entertaining as well.=20

Dean


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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Captain Cosmos -- The Gray Ghosts!
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Nick Cuti (writer, artist, editor, and all-around nice guy) has a TV show h=
e's been trying to get off the ground for years now. It's titled Captain Co=
smos -- The Last Starveyor and it stars Nick himself in the title role.=20

There was a pilot planned but scrapped but it spawned a comic in 1994 by Ni=
ck and his longtime E-Man partner Joe Staton. Later a pilot did get made, b=
ut it was with a different cast and a second comic came out featuring some =
of those alterations. Again Staton was on the artwork. I got the comic, but=
 I'd never seen the pilot episode.=20

In an e-mail exchange with Nick several years ago, I commented on these com=
ics and he sent the graphic novel version which includes the stories and co=
ntents of the first two issues (numbered #0 and #1) and a new story too, an=
d this "graphic novel" is identified as issue #2 of Captain Cosmos. Apparen=
tly this also an aschcan version of the comic and a #4 issue of the comic (=
Nick skipped #3 considering the #0 issue to count as the real #1 -- even no=
w you can't escape that wacky Charlton numbering -- it must get in the bloo=
dstream somehow). I've not got it, but it seems to be another story that pr=
eviously appeared in Even More Fund Comics, but it does sport a new Cuti co=
ver. I need to get hold of this too.

I found a dvd version of the existing shows titled The Gray Ghosts on Amazo=
n and ordered it lickety-split. I got it yesterday and gave it a good looki=
n' at. It was charming. The pilot and two additonal shows using the charact=
er in a more kid-friendly mentoring role called "Cosmic Theater" are blende=
d together in a story that points back to the series origins and the old sp=
ace operas of TV from the 50's. Space Patrol and Tom Corbet are clear inspi=
rations for these shows. The dvd offers a new episode beyond the Gray Ghost=
s storyline, though it could be linked in quite easily. There is even in on=
e episode a segment of Space Patrol and a cartoon called Lunar Luger, both =
vintage items.=20

I'm not going to tell you these are great shows. They're not. The lack of f=
unds shows up all over. There's an alien planet that looks just like the pa=
rk the humans start from, with fences and roads and everything. There's som=
e very tepid acting. The main set, the command cabin was apparently set up =
in Nick's dining room. But there's also some pretty decent acting, and some=
 of the better stuff is from Nick himself. This ain't Shakespeare, but it i=
s charming and fun. The storyline that formed the original pilot is clearly=
 the best of the bunch and more of that would've really made this pretty go=
od.=20

The sound on the dvd is pretty spotty, but you'll find the virtual backgrou=
nds pretty good at times. The funniest thing about the whole deal is that o=
ne character named Zen-Ya is played by at least four different actresses (m=
aybe five) and that's explained by making her a shapeshifter of sorts who c=
hanges bodies like we change fashion. It's a clever solution to a hilarious=
 problem.=20

Also each issue features material on the old TV shows that inspired the cha=
racter. There are tons of photos from old 50's TV to feast on as well as a =
couple of essays on Space Patrol and the like.=20

And there's a novel out there which just arrived. I'll let you know about t=
hat one.=20

Dean




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Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man?  Are these two charact=
ers part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?


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I believe that Roger Broughton owns the rights to Yang.
  Not so sure if he owns the rights to the Mercury Man or not.

steven rowe


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> Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two
> characters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
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I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...

I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa 1985=
-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger Br=
oughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a bunc=
h of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on that =
film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late 80's/early '9=
0s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally, all contact w=
as email only.

What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who wa=
s formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that ma=
terial. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally tol=
d by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns t=
he stuff, then he owns it."

I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to Roger'=
s illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for Charl=
ton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to pitch =
for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I pitche=
d a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm developing tha=
t material as another project), there was interest...then, nothing.

SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are reprin=
ting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them. Roge=
r also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns th=
e Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any o=
f it).


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Reuben Reuben" <redrubeheyrube@..=
.> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man?  Are these two chara=
cters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
>



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So he IS still alive.

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 10:25 AM


=A0=20



I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...

I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa 1985=
-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger Br=
oughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a bunc=
h of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on that =
film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late 80's/early '9=
0s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally, all contact w=
as email only.

What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who wa=
s formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that ma=
terial. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally tol=
d by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns t=
he stuff, then he owns it."

I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to Roger'=
s illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for Charl=
ton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to pitch =
for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I pitche=
d a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm developing tha=
t material as another project), there was interest...then, nothing.

SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are reprin=
ting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them. Roge=
r also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns th=
e Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any o=
f it).

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben" <redrubeheyrube@=
 ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two charac=
ters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
>

















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If Broughton is alive, I wonder if he doesn't reprint material anymore due =
to finances, or some other reason we obviously wouldn't know about?=A0 A qu=
estion that of course only he can answer.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

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From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 10:25 AM


=A0=20



I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...

I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa 1985=
-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger Br=
oughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a bunc=
h of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on that =
film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late 80's/early '9=
0s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally, all contact w=
as email only.

What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who wa=
s formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that ma=
terial. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally tol=
d by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns t=
he stuff, then he owns it."

I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to Roger'=
s illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for Charl=
ton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to pitch =
for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I pitche=
d a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm developing tha=
t material as another project), there was interest...then, nothing.

SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are reprin=
ting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them. Roge=
r also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns th=
e Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any o=
f it).

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben" <redrubeheyrube@=
 ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two charac=
ters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
>

















=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Hi.
=A0
T.C,
=A0
What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, many, man=
y years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever published, =
many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot with the last title=
, but with your stuff?
=A0
Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist. Believ=
e it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm just won=
dering.....why haven't you published it?
=A0
=A0
Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas le=
gal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The person who do=
es own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for more money=
 than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing whatsoever to =
do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the rights, stat=
s, etc.
=A0
The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, someone wi=
th the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
=A0
Very Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM


=A0=20



I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...

I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa 1985=
-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger Br=
oughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a bunc=
h of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on that =
film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late 80's/early '9=
0s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally, all contact w=
as email only.

What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who wa=
s formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that ma=
terial. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally tol=
d by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns t=
he stuff, then he owns it."

I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to Roger'=
s illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for Charl=
ton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to pitch =
for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I pitche=
d a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm developing tha=
t material as another project), there was interest...then, nothing.

SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are reprin=
ting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them. Roge=
r also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns th=
e Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any o=
f it).

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben" <redrubeheyrube@=
 ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two charac=
ters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
>

















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=A0
This is what I was referring to in the previous post, just sent. This (belo=
w) is a post I sent to the Atlas Seaboard yahoo group, way back on Sept 28 =
of 2009, over four years ago.
=A0
T.C., Sincere Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter
(Please see below....)
=A0
=A0
************ A comic came out last year called
> > SHOCKWAVE # 0 (zero) which also advertised in it
> that some of the unpublished material in the
> > unpublished Charlton Special(s) # 1,2 would be in
> the forthcoming SHOCKWAVE # 1, published by
> > T.C.Ford. # 1 containing this promised material
> has definately not come out, but he says it WILL
> come out, soon. It has just been delayed. I was chatting
> with him recently. I put the question to him on one
> of the charlton yahoo group lists, charton-1 if
> memory serves.=20
>=20
> --Phil Latter
=A0
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Correction. That was a typo, below. That original post I was referring to, =
below, was sent Sept 28 of 2005.
=A0
Thanks,
=A0
Phil

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=A0
This is what I was referring to in the previous post, just sent. This (belo=
w) is a post I sent to the Atlas Seaboard yahoo group, way back on Sept 28 =
of 2009, over four years ago.
=A0
T.C., Sincere Best Wishes,
=A0
Phil Latter
(Please see below....)
=A0
=A0
************ A comic came out last year called
> > SHOCKWAVE # 0 (zero) which also advertised in it
> that some of the unpublished material in the
> > unpublished Charlton Special(s) # 1,2 would be in
> the forthcoming SHOCKWAVE # 1, published by
> > T.C.Ford. # 1 containing this promised material
> has definately not come out, but he says it WILL
> come out, soon. It has just been delayed. I was chatting
> with him recently. I put the question to him on one
> of the charlton yahoo group lists, charton-1 if
> memory serves.=20
>=20
> --Phil Latter
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How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the company went out of busine=
ss?

I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder reprinted. It=
 contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various anthology horror titles he=
 worked on. Have there been any other Charlton reprints?=20

I would think there might be a market for such material. Same with the Atla=
s Seaboard comics.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Hi.
> =A0
> T.C,
> =A0
> What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, many, m=
any years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever published=
, many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot with the last tit=
le, but with your stuff?
> =A0
> Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist. Beli=
eve it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm just w=
ondering.....why haven't you published it?
> =A0
> =A0
> Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas =
legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The person who =
does own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for more mon=
ey than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing whatsoever t=
o do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the rights, st=
ats, etc.
> =A0
> The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, someone =
with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
> =A0
> Very Best Wishes,
> =A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
>=20
>=20
> =A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...
>=20
> I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa 19=
85-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger =
Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a bu=
nch of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on tha=
t film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late 80's/early =
'90s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally, all contact=
 was email only.
>=20
> What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who =
was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that =
material. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally t=
old by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns=
 the stuff, then he owns it."
>=20
> I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to Roge=
r's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for Cha=
rlton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to pitc=
h for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I pitc=
hed a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm developing t=
hat material as another project), there was interest...then, nothing.
>=20
> SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are repr=
inting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them. Ro=
ger also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns =
the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any=
 of it).
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben" <redrubeheyrub=
e@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two char=
acters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
> >
>=20
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>=20
>=20
>=20
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Roger Broughton  reprinted lots of Charlton material in his comics line
( his line with various indicia publishers and cover imprints  known  to
some of us as SwordInStone/A+/ACG/CharltonMedia)
DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various superhero stories.
  some "First kiss" stories have been reprinted with new dialog in
"Last Kiss"
   any others?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53 <brucebuchanan53@yahoo.com
> wrote:

>
>
> How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the company went out of
> business?
>
> I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder reprinted. It
> contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various anthology horror titles he
> worked on. Have there been any other Charlton reprints?
>
> I would think there might be a market for such material. Same with the
> Atlas Seaboard comics.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > T.C,
> >
> > What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, many,
> many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever
> published, many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot with the
> last title, but with your stuff?
> >
> > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist.
> Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm
> just wondering.....why haven't you published it?
> >
> >
> > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas
> legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The person who
> does own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for more
> money than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing whatsoever
> to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the rights,
> stats, etc.
> >
> > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, someone
> with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
> >
> > Very Best Wishes,
> >
> > Phil Latter
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@...>
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about...
> >
> > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circa
> 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to Roger
> Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a
> bunch of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was on
> that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late
> 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Finally,
> all contact was email only.
> >
> > What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (who
> was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of that
> material. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literally
> told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he owns
> the stuff, then he owns it."
> >
> > I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to
> Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced for
> Charlton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited to
> pitch for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group. I
> pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm
> developing that material as another project), there was interest...then,
> nothing.
> >
> > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are
> reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from them.
> Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also owns
> the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint any
> of it).
> >
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben"
> <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two
> characters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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 I hope everyone is re-reading the great spooky tales of- Baron Weirwulf's =
Haunted Library-Ghostly Tales and Visit Ghost Manor with Mr Bones. I am rea=
ding " Happy Ending " Ditko artist. It took me a while to get used to Ditko=
 art with The Creeper the first Ditko I saw. I love it now. Happy Halloween=
 .


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I love the old Charlton horror anthology books, particularly the Steve Ditk=
o stories. To me, Ditko was never better than he was in these ghost stories=
.=20

Even though Charlton didn't pay very well, Ditko always put a tremendous am=
ount of detail and thought into his work on these books.=20

What is the basic plot of "Happy Ending"? I'm not sure I've read that one.

Anyway, these tales do make great Halloween reading!



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>
>  I hope everyone is re-reading the great spooky tales of- Baron Weirwulf'=
s Haunted Library-Ghostly Tales and Visit Ghost Manor with Mr Bones. I am r=
eading " Happy Ending " Ditko artist. It took me a while to get used to Dit=
ko art with The Creeper the first Ditko I saw. I love it now. Happy Hallowe=
en .
>



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Just off the top of my head, there are the two or three Ditko Reader books =
that Greg Theakston has issued over the past few years, which reprint loads=
 of classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled what looks to=
 be a marvelous collection of reprints of the same kinda stuff, upcoming--a=
s are the Blake Bell-compiled complete works of Ditko books upcoming from F=
antagraphics (if I'm not mistaken).

Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious Broughton legacy, it's =
tough to find Charlton reprints these days. A lot of what would be worth re=
printing--Aparo's Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat Boye=
tte's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others who own the license=
s, and obviously that holds for any of the licensed material Charlton publi=
shed in the '60s and '70s--Hanna-Barbera and King Features and so on.

As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod, romance, wester=
n, war, ghost--they generated for so many years, I'm not sure if there's mu=
ch of a market for it for any serious publisher to consider. On my own mode=
st account I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton Spotligh=
t. If I should see a viable market for more of the same I'd do a lot more o=
f it, but it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just put a lot of this ki=
nd of stuff up on the Net.

--Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, s r <sangorshop@...> wrote:
>
> Roger Broughton  reprinted lots of Charlton material in his comics line
> ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover imprints  known  to
> some of us as SwordInStone/A+/ACG/CharltonMedia)
> DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various superhero stories.
>   some "First kiss" stories have been reprinted with new dialog in
> "Last Kiss"
>    any others?
>=20
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53 <brucebuchanan53@...
> > wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the company went out of
> > business?
> >
> > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder reprinted=
. It
> > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various anthology horror titles=
 he
> > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton reprints?
> >
> > I would think there might be a market for such material. Same with the
> > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> >
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.=
com>,
> > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > T.C,
> > >
> > > What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, man=
y,
> > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever
> > published, many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot with=
 the
> > last title, but with your stuff?
> > >
> > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist.
> > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'=
m
> > just wondering.....why haven't you published it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 At=
las
> > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The person =
who
> > does own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for more
> > money than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing whats=
oever
> > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the right=
s,
> > stats, etc.
> > >
> > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, some=
one
> > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
> > >
> > > Very Best Wishes,
> > >
> > > Phil Latter
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@>
> > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.c=
om>
> > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about..=
.
> > >
> > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circ=
a
> > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to =
Roger
> > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was =
a
> > bunch of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was =
on
> > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late
> > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Final=
ly,
> > all contact was email only.
> > >
> > > What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (=
who
> > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of t=
hat
> > material. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literal=
ly
> > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he=
 owns
> > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > >
> > > I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced=
 for
> > Charlton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited =
to
> > pitch for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group=
. I
> > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm
> > developing that material as another project), there was interest...then=
,
> > nothing.
> > >
> > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are
> > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from =
them.
> > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also=
 owns
> > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint=
 any
> > of it).
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben"
> > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two
> > characters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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A Great deal of Pre 1960's Charlton stuff can be found at the 'Golden Age C=
omics' site as can LOADS of other great Public Domain material.

-Nigel



--- On Sat, 31/10/09, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered=
 Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 31 October, 2009, 12:34 AM
> Just off the top of my head, there
> are the two or three Ditko Reader books that Greg Theakston
> has issued over the past few years, which reprint loads of
> classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled
> what looks to be a marvelous collection of reprints of the
> same kinda stuff, upcoming--as are the Blake Bell-compiled
> complete works of Ditko books upcoming from Fantagraphics
> (if I'm not mistaken).
>=20
> Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious
> Broughton legacy, it's tough to find Charlton reprints these
> days. A lot of what would be worth reprinting--Aparo's
> Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat
> Boyette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others
> who own the licenses, and obviously that holds for any of
> the licensed material Charlton published in the '60s and
> '70s--Hanna-Barbera and King Features and so on.
>=20
> As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod,
> romance, western, war, ghost--they generated for so many
> years, I'm not sure if there's much of a market for it for
> any serious publisher to consider. On my own modest account
> I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton
> Spotlight. If I should see a viable market for more of the
> same I'd do a lot more of it, but it would be a lot easier
> and cheaper to just put a lot of this kind of stuff up on
> the Net.
>=20
> --Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com,
> s r <sangorshop@...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger Broughton=A0 reprinted lots of Charlton
> material in his comics line
> > ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover
> imprints=A0 known=A0 to
> > some of us as SwordInStone/A+/ACG/CharltonMedia)
> > DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various
> superhero stories.
> >=A0=A0=A0some "First kiss" stories have been
> reprinted with new dialog in
> > "Last Kiss"
> >=A0 =A0 any others?
> >=20
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53
> <brucebuchanan53@...
> > > wrote:
> >=20
> > >
> > >
> > > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the
> company went out of
> > > business?
> > >
> > > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and
> Robin Snyder reprinted. It
> > > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various
> anthology horror titles he
> > > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton
> reprints?
> > >
> > > I would think there might be a market for such
> material. Same with the
> > > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroup=
s.com>,
> > > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > T.C,
> > > >
> > > > What about that comic you promised you were
> bringing about, many, many,
> > > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye
> leftovers, never, ever
> > > published, many years ago, now, but first you
> published a one shot with the
> > > last title, but with your stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages,
> unpublished, even exist.
> > > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be
> disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm
> > > just wondering.....why haven't you published it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger
> Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas
> > > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it
> completely. The person who
> > > does own all that, has offered to sell the
> rights, many times, for more
> > > money than you or I could possibly imagine.
> Broughton had nothing whatsoever
> > > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms
> of buying up the rights,
> > > stats, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned
> the rights, I heard, someone
> > > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know
> who.
> > > >
> > > > Very Best Wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Phil Latter
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999
> <realartist1999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: realartist1999
> <realartist1999@>
> > > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups=
.com>
> > > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25
> AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's
> YANG that was asked about...
> > > >
> > > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late
> Charlton Comics line (circa
> > > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever
> was left of Charlton to Roger
> > > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury
> Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a
> > > bunch of film that was sold, along with the
> rights to reprint what was on
> > > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by
> phone in the late
> > > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would
> change infrequently. Finally,
> > > all contact was email only.
> > > >
> > > > What I did discover recently was that as far
> as anyone is concerned (who
> > > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is
> the rights holder of that
> > > material. The place is gone, and all parties are
> retired. I was literally
> > > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business
> Manager), "If Roger says he owns
> > > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > > >
> > > > I was approached (via email, from an
> "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase
> of material I produced for
> > > Charlton which I contractually own, but I
> declined. I was then invited to
> > > pitch for other projects for the then newly
> minted Charlton Media Group. I
> > > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into
> here, because I'm
> > > developing that material as another project),
> there was interest...then,
> > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with
> Broughton, because they are
> > > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get
> any information from them.
> > > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one
> point told me that he also owns
> > > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've
> never seen him reprint any
> > > of it).
> > > >
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> "Reuben Reuben"
> > > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and
> Mercury Man? Are these two
> > > characters part of the DCU now or are they in
> public domain?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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The link for that is www.goldenagecomicbooks.co.uk.
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--- On Sat, 10/31/09, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never deliver=
ed Charlton title...
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:35 AM


=A0=20



A Great deal of Pre 1960's Charlton stuff can be found at the 'Golden Age C=
omics' site as can LOADS of other great Public Domain material.

-Nigel

--- On Sat, 31/10/09, Michael <charspot01@austin. rr.com> wrote:

> From: Michael <charspot01@austin. rr.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered=
 Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, 31 October, 2009, 12:34 AM
> Just off the top of my head, there
> are the two or three Ditko Reader books that Greg Theakston
> has issued over the past few years, which reprint loads of
> classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled
> what looks to be a marvelous collection of reprints of the
> same kinda stuff, upcoming--as are the Blake Bell-compiled
> complete works of Ditko books upcoming from Fantagraphics
> (if I'm not mistaken).
>=20
> Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious
> Broughton legacy, it's tough to find Charlton reprints these
> days. A lot of what would be worth reprinting-- Aparo's
> Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat
> Boyette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others
> who own the licenses, and obviously that holds for any of
> the licensed material Charlton published in the '60s and
> '70s--Hanna- Barbera and King Features and so on.
>=20
> As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod,
> romance, western, war, ghost--they generated for so many
> years, I'm not sure if there's much of a market for it for
> any serious publisher to consider. On my own modest account
> I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton
> Spotlight. If I should see a viable market for more of the
> same I'd do a lot more of it, but it would be a lot easier
> and cheaper to just put a lot of this kind of stuff up on
> the Net.
>=20
> --Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger Broughton=A0 reprinted lots of Charlton
> material in his comics line
> > ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover
> imprints=A0 known=A0 to
> > some of us as SwordInStone/ A+/ACG/CharltonM edia)
> > DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various
> superhero stories.
> >=A0=A0=A0some "First kiss" stories have been
> reprinted with new dialog in
> > "Last Kiss"
> >=A0 =A0 any others?
> >=20
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53
> <brucebuchanan53@ ...
> > > wrote:
> >=20
> > >
> > >
> > > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the
> company went out of
> > > business?
> > >
> > > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and
> Robin Snyder reprinted. It
> > > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various
> anthology horror titles he
> > > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton
> reprints?
> > >
> > > I would think there might be a market for such
> material. Same with the
> > > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogr=
oups. com>,
> > > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > T.C,
> > > >
> > > > What about that comic you promised you were
> bringing about, many, many,
> > > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye
> leftovers, never, ever
> > > published, many years ago, now, but first you
> published a one shot with the
> > > last title, but with your stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages,
> unpublished, even exist.
> > > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be
> disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm
> > > just wondering... ..why haven't you published it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger
> Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas
> > > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it
> completely. The person who
> > > does own all that, has offered to sell the
> rights, many times, for more
> > > money than you or I could possibly imagine.
> Broughton had nothing whatsoever
> > > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms
> of buying up the rights,
> > > stats, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned
> the rights, I heard, someone
> > > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know
> who.
> > > >
> > > > Very Best Wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Phil Latter
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999
> <realartist1999@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: realartist1999
> <realartist1999@ >
> > > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogro=
ups. com>
> > > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25
> AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's
> YANG that was asked about...
> > > >
> > > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late
> Charlton Comics line (circa
> > > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever
> was left of Charlton to Roger
> > > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury
> Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a
> > > bunch of film that was sold, along with the
> rights to reprint what was on
> > > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by
> phone in the late
> > > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would
> change infrequently. Finally,
> > > all contact was email only.
> > > >
> > > > What I did discover recently was that as far
> as anyone is concerned (who
> > > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is
> the rights holder of that
> > > material. The place is gone, and all parties are
> retired. I was literally
> > > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business
> Manager), "If Roger says he owns
> > > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > > >
> > > > I was approached (via email, from an
> "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase
> of material I produced for
> > > Charlton which I contractually own, but I
> declined. I was then invited to
> > > pitch for other projects for the then newly
> minted Charlton Media Group. I
> > > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into
> here, because I'm
> > > developing that material as another project),
> there was interest...then,
> > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with
> Broughton, because they are
> > > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get
> any information from them.
> > > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one
> point told me that he also owns
> > > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've
> never seen him reprint any
> > > of it).
> > > >
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> "Reuben Reuben"
> > > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and
> Mercury Man? Are these two
> > > characters part of the DCU now or are they in
> public domain?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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My bad!=A0 That's www.goldenagecomics.co.uk.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Al

--- On Sat, 10/31/09, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never deliver=
ed Charlton title...
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:35 AM


=A0=20



A Great deal of Pre 1960's Charlton stuff can be found at the 'Golden Age C=
omics' site as can LOADS of other great Public Domain material.

-Nigel

--- On Sat, 31/10/09, Michael <charspot01@austin. rr.com> wrote:

> From: Michael <charspot01@austin. rr.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered=
 Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, 31 October, 2009, 12:34 AM
> Just off the top of my head, there
> are the two or three Ditko Reader books that Greg Theakston
> has issued over the past few years, which reprint loads of
> classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled
> what looks to be a marvelous collection of reprints of the
> same kinda stuff, upcoming--as are the Blake Bell-compiled
> complete works of Ditko books upcoming from Fantagraphics
> (if I'm not mistaken).
>=20
> Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious
> Broughton legacy, it's tough to find Charlton reprints these
> days. A lot of what would be worth reprinting-- Aparo's
> Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat
> Boyette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others
> who own the licenses, and obviously that holds for any of
> the licensed material Charlton published in the '60s and
> '70s--Hanna- Barbera and King Features and so on.
>=20
> As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod,
> romance, western, war, ghost--they generated for so many
> years, I'm not sure if there's much of a market for it for
> any serious publisher to consider. On my own modest account
> I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton
> Spotlight. If I should see a viable market for more of the
> same I'd do a lot more of it, but it would be a lot easier
> and cheaper to just put a lot of this kind of stuff up on
> the Net.
>=20
> --Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger Broughton=A0 reprinted lots of Charlton
> material in his comics line
> > ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover
> imprints=A0 known=A0 to
> > some of us as SwordInStone/ A+/ACG/CharltonM edia)
> > DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various
> superhero stories.
> >=A0=A0=A0some "First kiss" stories have been
> reprinted with new dialog in
> > "Last Kiss"
> >=A0 =A0 any others?
> >=20
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53
> <brucebuchanan53@ ...
> > > wrote:
> >=20
> > >
> > >
> > > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the
> company went out of
> > > business?
> > >
> > > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and
> Robin Snyder reprinted. It
> > > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various
> anthology horror titles he
> > > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton
> reprints?
> > >
> > > I would think there might be a market for such
> material. Same with the
> > > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogr=
oups. com>,
> > > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > T.C,
> > > >
> > > > What about that comic you promised you were
> bringing about, many, many,
> > > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye
> leftovers, never, ever
> > > published, many years ago, now, but first you
> published a one shot with the
> > > last title, but with your stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages,
> unpublished, even exist.
> > > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be
> disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm
> > > just wondering... ..why haven't you published it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger
> Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas
> > > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it
> completely. The person who
> > > does own all that, has offered to sell the
> rights, many times, for more
> > > money than you or I could possibly imagine.
> Broughton had nothing whatsoever
> > > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms
> of buying up the rights,
> > > stats, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned
> the rights, I heard, someone
> > > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know
> who.
> > > >
> > > > Very Best Wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Phil Latter
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999
> <realartist1999@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: realartist1999
> <realartist1999@ >
> > > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogro=
ups. com>
> > > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25
> AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's
> YANG that was asked about...
> > > >
> > > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late
> Charlton Comics line (circa
> > > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever
> was left of Charlton to Roger
> > > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury
> Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a
> > > bunch of film that was sold, along with the
> rights to reprint what was on
> > > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by
> phone in the late
> > > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would
> change infrequently. Finally,
> > > all contact was email only.
> > > >
> > > > What I did discover recently was that as far
> as anyone is concerned (who
> > > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is
> the rights holder of that
> > > material. The place is gone, and all parties are
> retired. I was literally
> > > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business
> Manager), "If Roger says he owns
> > > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > > >
> > > > I was approached (via email, from an
> "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase
> of material I produced for
> > > Charlton which I contractually own, but I
> declined. I was then invited to
> > > pitch for other projects for the then newly
> minted Charlton Media Group. I
> > > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into
> here, because I'm
> > > developing that material as another project),
> there was interest...then,
> > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with
> Broughton, because they are
> > > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get
> any information from them.
> > > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one
> point told me that he also owns
> > > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've
> never seen him reprint any
> > > of it).
> > > >
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> "Reuben Reuben"
> > > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and
> Mercury Man? Are these two
> > > characters part of the DCU now or are they in
> public domain?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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--- On Sat, 31/10/09, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never deliv=
ered Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 31 October, 2009, 1:48 PM
> My bad!=A0 That's
> www.goldenagecomics.co.uk.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Al
>=20
> --- On Sat, 10/31/09, nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: nigel cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised,
> but never delivered Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:35 AM
>=20
>=20
> =A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> A Great deal of Pre 1960's Charlton stuff can be found at
> the 'Golden Age Comics' site as can LOADS of other great
> Public Domain material.
>=20
> -Nigel
>=20
> --- On Sat, 31/10/09, Michael <charspot01@austin.
> rr.com> wrote:
>=20
> > From: Michael <charspot01@austin. rr.com>
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised,
> but never delivered Charlton title...
> > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 31 October, 2009, 12:34 AM
> > Just off the top of my head, there
> > are the two or three Ditko Reader books that Greg
> Theakston
> > has issued over the past few years, which reprint
> loads of
> > classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has
> compiled
> > what looks to be a marvelous collection of reprints of
> the
> > same kinda stuff, upcoming--as are the Blake
> Bell-compiled
> > complete works of Ditko books upcoming from
> Fantagraphics
> > (if I'm not mistaken).
> >=20
> > Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious
> > Broughton legacy, it's tough to find Charlton reprints
> these
> > days. A lot of what would be worth reprinting--
> Aparo's
> > Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat
> > Boyette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by
> others
> > who own the licenses, and obviously that holds for any
> of
> > the licensed material Charlton published in the '60s
> and
> > '70s--Hanna- Barbera and King Features and so on.
> >=20
> > As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot
> rod,
> > romance, western, war, ghost--they generated for so
> many
> > years, I'm not sure if there's much of a market for it
> for
> > any serious publisher to consider. On my own modest
> account
> > I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of
> Charlton
> > Spotlight. If I should see a viable market for more of
> the
> > same I'd do a lot more of it, but it would be a lot
> easier
> > and cheaper to just put a lot of this kind of stuff up
> on
> > the Net.
> >=20
> > --Mike A.
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com,
> > s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Roger Broughton=A0 reprinted lots of Charlton
> > material in his comics line
> > > ( his line with various indicia publishers and
> cover
> > imprints=A0 known=A0 to
> > > some of us as SwordInStone/ A+/ACG/CharltonM
> edia)
> > > DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various
> > superhero stories.
> > >=A0=A0=A0some "First kiss" stories have been
> > reprinted with new dialog in
> > > "Last Kiss"
> > >=A0 =A0 any others?
> > >=20
> > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM,
> brucebuchanan53
> > <brucebuchanan53@ ...
> > > > wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since
> the
> > company went out of
> > > > business?
> > > >
> > > > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko
> and
> > Robin Snyder reprinted. It
> > > > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the
> various
> > anthology horror titles he
> > > > worked on. Have there been any other
> Charlton
> > reprints?
> > > >
> > > > I would think there might be a market for
> such
> > material. Same with the
> > > > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> > > >
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups.
> com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi.
> > > > >
> > > > > T.C,
> > > > >
> > > > > What about that comic you promised you
> were
> > bringing about, many, many,
> > > > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye
> > leftovers, never, ever
> > > > published, many years ago, now, but first
> you
> > published a one shot with the
> > > > last title, but with your stuff?
> > > > >
> > > > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those
> pages,
> > unpublished, even exist.
> > > > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be
> > disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'm
> > > > just wondering... ..why haven't you
> published it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger
> > Broughton owns any circa 1975 Atlas
> > > > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt
> it
> > completely. The person who
> > > > does own all that, has offered to sell the
> > rights, many times, for more
> > > > money than you or I could possibly imagine.
> > Broughton had nothing whatsoever
> > > > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in
> terms
> > of buying up the rights,
> > > > stats, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK
> owned
> > the rights, I heard, someone
> > > > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you
> know
> > who.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very Best Wishes,
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil Latter
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999
> > <realartist1999@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: realartist1999
> > <realartist1999@ >
> > > > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > > > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups.
> com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009,
> 11:25
> > AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as
> it's
> > YANG that was asked about...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the
> late
> > Charlton Comics line (circa
> > > > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold
> whatever
> > was left of Charlton to Roger
> > > > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and
> Mercury
> > Man. PHYSICALLY, it was a
> > > > bunch of film that was sold, along with the
> > rights to reprint what was on
> > > > that film. I used to be in contact with
> Roger by
> > phone in the late
> > > > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number
> would
> > change infrequently. Finally,
> > > > all contact was email only.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I did discover recently was that
> as far
> > as anyone is concerned (who
> > > > was formerly involved at Charlton),
> Broughton is
> > the rights holder of that
> > > > material. The place is gone, and all parties
> are
> > retired. I was literally
> > > > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business
> > Manager), "If Roger says he owns
> > > > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > > > >
> > > > > I was approached (via email, from an
> > "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > > > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the
> purchase
> > of material I produced for
> > > > Charlton which I contractually own, but I
> > declined. I was then invited to
> > > > pitch for other projects for the then newly
> > minted Charlton Media Group. I
> > > > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go
> into
> > here, because I'm
> > > > developing that material as another
> project),
> > there was interest...then,
> > > > nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact
> with
> > Broughton, because they are
> > > > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted
> to get
> > any information from them.
> > > > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at
> one
> > point told me that he also owns
> > > > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though
> I've
> > never seen him reprint any
> > > > of it).
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups.
> com,
> > "Reuben Reuben"
> > > > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know the status of
> Yang and
> > Mercury Man? Are these two
> > > > characters part of the DCU now or are they
> in
> > public domain?
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=A0
I read a ton of Charlton hot rod comics back in the '60s, greatly enjoyed K=
eller's slightly unpolished but highly effective artwork.=A0 I don't claim =
that these comics were classics, but they were entertaining.=A0 I never saw=
 them new on the newsstands, I got them from people who sold them for a nic=
kel apiece in mom and pop stores.=A0 I wouldn't mind seeing some of that st=
uff reprinted.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:


From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered C=
harlton title...
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 8:34 PM


=A0=20



Just off the top of my head, there are the two or three Ditko Reader books =
that Greg Theakston has issued over the past few years, which reprint loads=
 of classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled what looks to=
 be a marvelous collection of reprints of the same kinda stuff, upcoming--a=
s are the Blake Bell-compiled complete works of Ditko books upcoming from F=
antagraphics (if I'm not mistaken).

Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious Broughton legacy, it's =
tough to find Charlton reprints these days. A lot of what would be worth re=
printing-- Aparo's Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat Boy=
ette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others who own the licens=
es, and obviously that holds for any of the licensed material Charlton publ=
ished in the '60s and '70s--Hanna- Barbera and King Features and so on.

As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod, romance, wester=
n, war, ghost--they generated for so many years, I'm not sure if there's mu=
ch of a market for it for any serious publisher to consider. On my own mode=
st account I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton Spotligh=
t. If I should see a viable market for more of the same I'd do a lot more o=
f it, but it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just put a lot of this ki=
nd of stuff up on the Net.

--Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
>
> Roger Broughton reprinted lots of Charlton material in his comics line
> ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover imprints known to
> some of us as SwordInStone/ A+/ACG/CharltonM edia)
> DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various superhero stories.
> some "First kiss" stories have been reprinted with new dialog in
> "Last Kiss"
> any others?
>=20
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53 <brucebuchanan53@ ...
> > wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the company went out of
> > business?
> >
> > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder reprinted=
. It
> > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various anthology horror titles=
 he
> > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton reprints?
> >
> > I would think there might be a market for such material. Same with the
> > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> >
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogrou=
ps. com>,
> > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > T.C,
> > >
> > > What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, man=
y,
> > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever
> > published, many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot with=
 the
> > last title, but with your stuff?
> > >
> > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist.
> > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. I'=
m
> > just wondering... ..why haven't you published it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 At=
las
> > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The person =
who
> > does own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for more
> > money than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing whats=
oever
> > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the right=
s,
> > stats, etc.
> > >
> > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, some=
one
> > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
> > >
> > > Very Best Wishes,
> > >
> > > Phil Latter
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@ > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@ >
> > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogroup=
s. com>
> > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about..=
.
> > >
> > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (circ=
a
> > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton to =
Roger
> > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it was =
a
> > bunch of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what was =
on
> > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late
> > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Final=
ly,
> > all contact was email only.
> > >
> > > What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned (=
who
> > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of t=
hat
> > material. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was literal=
ly
> > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says he=
 owns
> > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > >
> > > I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due to
> > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produced=
 for
> > Charlton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invited =
to
> > pitch for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Group=
. I
> > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm
> > developing that material as another project), there was interest...then=
,
> > nothing.
> > >
> > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they are
> > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information from =
them.
> > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he also=
 owns
> > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him reprint=
 any
> > of it).
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben"
> > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these two
> > characters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
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Lots of Charlton stuff available at GAC. Most Charlton can be picked up so easily and cheaply on ebay it really would not make much sense to reprint it. Some of their GA stuff may be pricey but the SA is pretty cheap usually much less than a new comic so less than what it would cost to buy a reprint.


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You're on your way to becoming another serious Ditko fan.  It starts 
with the Creeper, then you discover his prolific, yet efficient, 
contribution to Charlton in the 70's.  Then you start digging around and 
see the epic Spider-man run, the strange Ditko hulk (with Kirby inks?) 
and the wonderful Dr. Strange.  From there, you discover the pre-Marvel 
Atlas work.  And finally, his pre-Atlas work for Charlton and others, at 
which point you finally reach Ditko nirvana.  You're gonna love it all.


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Thanks for the info, everyone. While there's a lot of Charlton stuff I'm in=
terested in, I'm mainly interested in collecting their 1970s/'80s horror ti=
tles, so I'll check eBay.

By the way, what is GAC?


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, jimludwig <jimludwig@...> wrote:
>
> Lots of Charlton stuff available at GAC. Most Charlton can be picked up s=
o easily and cheaply on ebay it really would not make much sense to reprint=
 it. Some of their GA stuff may be pricey but the SA is pretty cheap usuall=
y much less than a new comic so less than what it would cost to buy a repri=
nt.
>=20
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Subject: Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered Charlton title...
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I'd love to see reprints of John Byrne's old Charlton work. I know that a f=
air amount of it was licensed material (Emergency, Space: 1999), so that cr=
eates some complicated copyright issues. But it would be fun to see.=20


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
>
> =A0
> I read a ton of Charlton hot rod comics back in the '60s, greatly enjoyed=
 Keller's slightly unpolished but highly effective artwork.=A0 I don't clai=
m that these comics were classics, but they were entertaining.=A0 I never s=
aw them new on the newsstands, I got them from people who sold them for a n=
ickel apiece in mom and pop stores.=A0 I wouldn't mind seeing some of that =
stuff reprinted.
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Michael <charspot01@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: T.C. Ford's promised, but never delivered=
 Charlton title...
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 8:34 PM
>=20
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> =A0=20
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> Just off the top of my head, there are the two or three Ditko Reader book=
s that Greg Theakston has issued over the past few years, which reprint loa=
ds of classic 1950s Charlton Ditko work. Craig Yoe has compiled what looks =
to be a marvelous collection of reprints of the same kinda stuff, upcoming-=
-as are the Blake Bell-compiled complete works of Ditko books upcoming from=
 Fantagraphics (if I'm not mistaken).
>=20
> Apart from the Ditko Charlton work, and the obvious Broughton legacy, it'=
s tough to find Charlton reprints these days. A lot of what would be worth =
reprinting-- Aparo's Phantom stuff, Pete Morisi's Thunderbolt issues, Pat B=
oyette's Peacemaker stories, etc.--is controlled by others who own the lice=
nses, and obviously that holds for any of the licensed material Charlton pu=
blished in the '60s and '70s--Hanna- Barbera and King Features and so on.
>=20
> As for the tsunami of other Charlton comics pages--hot rod, romance, west=
ern, war, ghost--they generated for so many years, I'm not sure if there's =
much of a market for it for any serious publisher to consider. On my own mo=
dest account I've reprinted a few such stories in issues of Charlton Spotli=
ght. If I should see a viable market for more of the same I'd do a lot more=
 of it, but it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just put a lot of this =
kind of stuff up on the Net.
>=20
> --Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Roger Broughton reprinted lots of Charlton material in his comics line
> > ( his line with various indicia publishers and cover imprints known to
> > some of us as SwordInStone/ A+/ACG/CharltonM edia)
> > DC reprinted in "Action Heroes" archives various superhero stories.
> > some "First kiss" stories have been reprinted with new dialog in
> > "Last Kiss"
> > any others?
> >=20
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, brucebuchanan53 <brucebuchanan53@ ...
> > > wrote:
> >=20
> > >
> > >
> > > How much Charlton stuff been reprinted since the company went out of
> > > business?
> > >
> > > I have the Charlton Package that Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder reprint=
ed. It
> > > contains 20 of Ditko's stories from the various anthology horror titl=
es he
> > > worked on. Have there been any other Charlton reprints?
> > >
> > > I would think there might be a market for such material. Same with th=
e
> > > Atlas Seaboard comics.
> > >
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogr=
oups. com>,
> > > Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > T.C,
> > > >
> > > > What about that comic you promised you were bringing about, many, m=
any,
> > > many years ago, now, with Charlton Bullseye leftovers, never, ever
> > > published, many years ago, now, but first you published a one shot wi=
th the
> > > last title, but with your stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully, I'm wondering if those pages, unpublished, even exist=
.
> > > Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor sarcastic. =
I'm
> > > just wondering... ..why haven't you published it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Off topic, completely, I doubt Roger Broughton owns any circa 1975 =
Atlas
> > > legal rights to that stuff. In fact, I doubt it completely. The perso=
n who
> > > does own all that, has offered to sell the rights, many times, for mo=
re
> > > money than you or I could possibly imagine. Broughton had nothing wha=
tsoever
> > > to do with the mid 1970's Atlas Comics, in terms of buying up the rig=
hts,
> > > stats, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The publishers of the porno mag SWANK owned the rights, I heard, so=
meone
> > > with the surname Goodwin, a relative of you know who.
> > > >
> > > > Very Best Wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Phil Latter
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, realartist1999 <realartist1999@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: realartist1999 <realartist1999@ >
> > > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Yang
> > > > To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com<CharltonBullseye% 40yahoogro=
ups. com>
> > > > Received: Friday, October 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I rarely weigh in these days, but as it's YANG that was asked about=
...
> > > >
> > > > I'm T.C. Ford, the last Editor of the late Charlton Comics line (ci=
rca
> > > 1985-86). After I left, Charlton sold whatever was left of Charlton t=
o Roger
> > > Broughton. Yes, that includes Yang and Mercury Man. PHYSICALLY, it wa=
s a
> > > bunch of film that was sold, along with the rights to reprint what wa=
s on
> > > that film. I used to be in contact with Roger by phone in the late
> > > 80's/early '90s. Then the phone number would change infrequently. Fin=
ally,
> > > all contact was email only.
> > > >
> > > > What I did discover recently was that as far as anyone is concerned=
 (who
> > > was formerly involved at Charlton), Broughton is the rights holder of=
 that
> > > material. The place is gone, and all parties are retired. I was liter=
ally
> > > told by Ed Konick (former Charlton Business Manager), "If Roger says =
he owns
> > > the stuff, then he owns it."
> > > >
> > > > I was approached (via email, from an "associate" of Roger's...due t=
o
> > > Roger's illness) back in 1999 about the purchase of material I produc=
ed for
> > > Charlton which I contractually own, but I declined. I was then invite=
d to
> > > pitch for other projects for the then newly minted Charlton Media Gro=
up. I
> > > pitched a spinoff of Yang (which I won't go into here, because I'm
> > > developing that material as another project), there was interest...th=
en,
> > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > SOMEONE at Dark Horse is in contact with Broughton, because they ar=
e
> > > reprinting Herbie. But I haven't attempted to get any information fro=
m them.
> > > Roger also owns the ACG material, and at one point told me that he al=
so owns
> > > the Atlas/Seaboard material as well (though I've never seen him repri=
nt any
> > > of it).
> > > >
> > > > --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, "Reuben Reuben"
> > > <redrubeheyrube@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know the status of Yang and Mercury Man? Are these tw=
o
> > > characters part of the DCU now or are they in public domain?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Hi,
I've been a fan of some Charlton comics for a while. Bought Doomsday +1, E-=
Man and the Newton  Phantoms off the newstands. In recent years I've gotten=
 into some of the Ditko stuff (as, to me at least, some of it is great, som=
e of it drek), some Boyette and lots and lots of Tom Sutton. I'm being a bi=
t presumptuous on a first post but I added a file for mystery art for a com=
ic I  picked up a month ago and thought maybe someone here might be able to=
 identify the artist. The file is here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/files/mystery%20art/
and heres's the cover
http://www.comics.org/issue/169449/cover/4/?style=3Ddefault
which is also the splash page. I initially thought it was Dick Giordano but=
 the lush loose brushwork seen in her hair isn't his thing. The Grand Comic=
 Database doesn't have info for the comic. I also have quite a few Garcia-L=
opez Charlton romance comics which are among his earliest published America=
n comics. They work 'cause even early in his careet he was great at drawing=
 women's faces.
later
greg=20


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i know this artist worked for Dell (for editor L.B. Cole)
the inking style looks like Jerry McCann, who was working for
Charlton about this time.
  But for some reason the girl reminds me
somewhat of Bob Jenney's artwork - it's been decades since I looked
carefully
at Jenney;'s work (he has signed stories at Warren at this time, and
unsigned
lots of other places).

i wouldnt want to say McCann, without checking to make sure of no
Jenney's involvement. That nagging doubt....

steven rowe

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:48 PM, gregblob <yrogerg@ku.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
> I've been a fan of some Charlton comics for a while. Bought Doomsday +1,
> E-Man and the Newton Phantoms off the newstands. In recent years I've got=
ten
> into some of the Ditko stuff (as, to me at least, some of it is great, so=
me
> of it drek), some Boyette and lots and lots of Tom Sutton. I'm being a bi=
t
> presumptuous on a first post but I added a file for mystery art for a com=
ic
> I picked up a month ago and thought maybe someone here might be able to
> identify the artist. The file is here
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/files/mystery%20art/
> and heres's the cover
> http://www.comics.org/issue/169449/cover/4/?style=3Ddefault
> which is also the splash page. I initially thought it was Dick Giordano b=
ut
> the lush loose brushwork seen in her hair isn't his thing. The Grand Comi=
c
> Database doesn't have info for the comic. I also have quite a few
> Garcia-Lopez Charlton romance comics which are among his earliest publish=
ed
> American comics. They work 'cause even early in his careet he was great a=
t
> drawing women's faces.
> later
> greg
>
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>


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Thanks for mentioning that Garcia-Lopez drew some romance stories for Charl=
ton, I had not known that.
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: gregblob <yrogerg@ku.edu>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] new to list, mystery art
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:48 PM


=C2=A0=20



Hi,
I've been a fan of some Charlton comics for a while. Bought Doomsday +1, E-=
Man and the Newton Phantoms off the newstands. In recent years I've gotten =
into some of the Ditko stuff (as, to me at least, some of it is great, some=
 of it drek), some Boyette and lots and lots of Tom Sutton. I'm being a bit=
 presumptuous on a first post but I added a file for mystery art for a comi=
c I picked up a month ago and thought maybe someone here might be able to i=
dentify the artist. The file is here
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/CharltonBu llseye/files/ mystery%20art/
and heres's the cover
http://www.comics. org/issue/ 169449/cover/ 4/?style=3D default
which is also the splash page. I initially thought it was Dick Giordano but=
 the lush loose brushwork seen in her hair isn't his thing. The Grand Comic=
 Database doesn't have info for the comic. I also have quite a few Garcia-L=
opez Charlton romance comics which are among his earliest published America=
n comics. They work 'cause even early in his careet he was great at drawing=
 women's faces.
later
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 Hi sorry it took me a while to respond. The story is from Ghostly Tales no=
. 139. The plot is about an actress Melissa Hall or Mae Zitter Hall who has=
 never aged even though she has been around for decades. In 1868 she made a=
 deal with her master whom she worked for to be famous but never age. Of co=
urse she sold her soul and her village and it's people to remain trapped in=
 time. Her producer who met  one of the townspeople on a trip decided to he=
lp them and lured her back to the town with a phoney movie offer. Her contr=
act was cancelled her soul doomed and the people were set free. The art was=
 great and the story too.

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@...> wrote:
>
> I love the old Charlton horror anthology books, particularly the Steve Di=
tko stories. To me, Ditko was never better than he was in these ghost stori=
es.=20
>=20
> Even though Charlton didn't pay very well, Ditko always put a tremendous =
amount of detail and thought into his work on these books.=20
>=20
> What is the basic plot of "Happy Ending"? I'm not sure I've read that one=
.
>=20
> Anyway, these tales do make great Halloween reading!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> >  I hope everyone is re-reading the great spooky tales of- Baron Weirwul=
f's Haunted Library-Ghostly Tales and Visit Ghost Manor with Mr Bones. I am=
 reading " Happy Ending " Ditko artist. It took me a while to get used to D=
itko art with The Creeper the first Ditko I saw. I love it now. Happy Hallo=
ween .
> >
>



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Sounds entertaining! I love the ghost stories Steve Ditko did for Charlton.=
 I'll have to track this one down.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>  Hi sorry it took me a while to respond. The story is from Ghostly Tales =
no. 139. The plot is about an actress Melissa Hall or Mae Zitter Hall who h=
as never aged even though she has been around for decades. In 1868 she made=
 a deal with her master whom she worked for to be famous but never age. Of =
course she sold her soul and her village and it's people to remain trapped =
in time. Her producer who met  one of the townspeople on a trip decided to =
help them and lured her back to the town with a phoney movie offer. Her con=
tract was cancelled her soul doomed and the people were set free. The art w=
as great and the story too.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "brucebuchanan53" <brucebuchanan=
53@> wrote:
> >
> > I love the old Charlton horror anthology books, particularly the Steve =
Ditko stories. To me, Ditko was never better than he was in these ghost sto=
ries.=20
> >=20
> > Even though Charlton didn't pay very well, Ditko always put a tremendou=
s amount of detail and thought into his work on these books.=20
> >=20
> > What is the basic plot of "Happy Ending"? I'm not sure I've read that o=
ne.
> >=20
> > Anyway, these tales do make great Halloween reading!
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  I hope everyone is re-reading the great spooky tales of- Baron Weirw=
ulf's Haunted Library-Ghostly Tales and Visit Ghost Manor with Mr Bones. I =
am reading " Happy Ending " Ditko artist. It took me a while to get used to=
 Ditko art with The Creeper the first Ditko I saw. I love it now. Happy Hal=
loween .
> > >
> >
>



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Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two differe=
nt "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now defunct Charlton =
Comics.
And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want Lists,=
 believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely limited numbe=
rs that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
=C2=A0
I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who "kne=
w a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of touch wit=
h that guy, etc.
=C2=A0
Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing "Cha=
rlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt, for the rea=
son that they were not published and do NOT exist.
=C2=A0
I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an angry ret=
ort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?" I just happen =
to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..." yadda,yadda,yadda!
=C2=A0
lol
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

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From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM


=C2=A0=20



I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years. =C2=A0 In this ca=
se, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both magazines at =
the same place.
I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a short=
 lived revival then?
=C2=A0=C2=A0the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....



the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic.


steven rowe


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@ btinternet. com=
> wrote:


=C2=A0=20








--- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14





hmm, =C2=A0it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom =C2=A0at large no=
 loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real Western,=
 etc. =C2=A0=20
i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was spearh=
eaded by new editor=C2=A0T.C. Ford=C2=A0with a direct-market=C2=A0Charlton =
Bullseye=C2=A0Special.[6][7]=C2=A0But later that same year, Charlton Comics=
 went out of business;[8]=C2=A0Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991,=
 and its building and press were demolished in 1999."


putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to think t=
hat Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?


steven rowe

=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<<
=C2=A0
Steven,
Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past Oct-8=
8. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
=C2=A0
Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
=C2=A0
Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
=C2=A0
My suspicion, the company closed=C2=A0late 1990, same time as Song Hits exp=
ired.
=C2=A0
Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta group, a=
s before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names & locales to retai=
n a sense of continuity.
=C2=A0
The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul it w=
as printed there.
=C2=A0
Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader was p=
ublished by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
=C2=A0
If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at site =
of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
regards, frank m.

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From: John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
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I know a guy who knows a guy who doesn't have a copy. In fact, I know a=20
lot of 'em!

Phil Latter wrote:
>=20=20
>
> Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two=20
> different "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now=20
> defunct Charlton Comics.
> And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want=20
> Lists, believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely=20
> limited numbers that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
>=20=20
> I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who=20
> "knew a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of=20
> touch with that guy, etc.
>=20=20
> Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing=20
> "Charlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt,=20
> for the reason that they were not published and do NOT exist.
>=20=20
> I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an=20
> angry retort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?"=20
> I just happen to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..."=20
> yadda,yadda,yadda!
>=20=20
> lol
>=20=20
> Best Wishes,
>=20=20
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail.com=20
> <mailto:sangorshop%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com <mailto:sangorshop%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com <mailto:charlton-l%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM
>
>=20=20
>
> I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years.   In this=20
> case, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both=20
> magazines at the same place.
> I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a=20
> short lived revival then?
>   the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....
>
> the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic=
.
>
> steven rowe
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@=20
> btinternet. com> wrote:
>
>=20=20
>
> --- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14
>
> hmm,  it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom  at large no=20
> loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real=20
> Western, etc.=20=20
> i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was=20
> spearheaded by new editor T.C. Ford with a direct-market Charlton=20
> Bullseye Special.[6][7] But later that same year, Charlton Comics went=20
> out of business;[8] Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991, and=20
> its building and press were demolished in 1999."
>
> putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to=20
> think that Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?
>
> steven rowe
>
>=20=20
>=20=20
> <<
>=20=20
> Steven,
> Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past=20
> Oct-88. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
>=20=20
> Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
>=20=20
> Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
>=20=20
> My suspicion, the company closed late 1990, same time as Song Hits=20
> expired.
>=20=20
> Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta=20
> group, as before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names &=20
> locales to retain a sense of continuity.
>=20=20
> The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul=20
> it was printed there.
>=20=20
> Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader=20
> was published by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
>=20=20
> If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at=20
> site of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
> regards, frank m.
>
>=20=20
>
> __________________________________________________________
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Ummm.....that's almost it, yeah! LOL
=C2=A0
Phil

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:


From: John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:05 PM


=C2=A0=20



I know a guy who knows a guy who doesn't have a copy. In fact, I know a=20
lot of 'em!

Phil Latter wrote:
>=20
>
> Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two=20
> different "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now=20
> defunct Charlton Comics.
> And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want=20
> Lists, believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely=20
> limited numbers that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
>=20
> I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who=20
> "knew a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of=20
> touch with that guy, etc.
>=20
> Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing=20
> "Charlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt,=20
> for the reason that they were not published and do NOT exist.
>=20
> I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an=20
> angry retort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?"=20
> I just happen to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..."=20
> yadda,yadda, yadda!
>=20
> lol
>=20
> Best Wishes,
>=20
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com=20
> <mailto:sangorshop% 40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com <mailto:sangorshop% 40gmail.com> >
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:charlton- l%40yahoogroups. com>
> Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM
>
>=20
>
> I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years. In this=20
> case, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both=20
> magazines at the same place.
> I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a=20
> short lived revival then?
> the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....
>
> the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic=
.
>
> steven rowe
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@=20
> btinternet. com> wrote:
>
>=20
>
> --- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@ gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14
>
> hmm, it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom at large no=20
> loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real=20
> Western, etc.=20
> i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was=20
> spearheaded by new editor T.C. Ford with a direct-market Charlton=20
> Bullseye Special.[6][ 7] But later that same year, Charlton Comics went=20
> out of business;[8] Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991, and=20
> its building and press were demolished in 1999."
>
> putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to=20
> think that Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?
>
> steven rowe
>
>=20
>=20
> <<
>=20
> Steven,
> Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past=20
> Oct-88. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
>=20
> Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
>=20
> Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
>=20
> My suspicion, the company closed late 1990, same time as Song Hits=20
> expired.
>=20
> Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta=20
> group, as before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names &=20
> locales to retain a sense of continuity.
>=20
> The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul=20
> it was printed there.
>=20
> Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader=20
> was published by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
>=20
> If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at=20
> site of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
> regards, frank m.
>
>=20
>
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I actually found listings for these at Grand Comic Book Database. Here's th=
e link:

http://www.comics.org/series/11432/

It's like a bogus issue of the Avengers I chased for years finding conflict=
ing data about its existence.=20

Dean


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--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Eric Reece <reeceand@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Eric Reece <reeceand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, December 18, 2009, 10:09 PM


=C2=A0=20





Hi Charlton Gang,

I remember Charlton Bullseye Special was reported in the CGB in 1986? Seems=
 one of the stories previewed was "Emperor of the Universe" but it was neve=
r published. It was listed in Overstreet a few years but I always believed =
this was their invention to keep other comic price guides from plagiarizing=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20

Wren and Synder published the last comics for Charlton. I tried to collect =
a set of the last one's published but never could find "Punchy and Black Cr=
ow." Anyone have a complete set? Anyone ever listed the last Charlton Comic=
s published by Wren and Synder? I believe the dates were 1984 to 2/1986.

Charlton Spotlight is always a good source for answer to these questions.=20

Happy Holidays,
Eric Reece=20






From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:53:24 PM
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials

=C2=A0=20

Well, it is T.C. Ford who says that issues came out.
I am doubter myself.


steven rowe


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrot=
e:


=C2=A0=20








Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two differe=
nt "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now defunct Charlton =
Comics.
And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want Lists,=
 believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely limited numbe=
rs that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
=C2=A0
I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who "kne=
w a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of touch wit=
h that guy, etc.
=C2=A0
Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing "Cha=
rlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt, for the rea=
son that they were not published and do NOT exist.
=C2=A0
I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an angry ret=
ort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?" I just happen =
to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..." yadda,yadda, yadda!
=C2=A0
lol
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM


=C2=A0=20

I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years. =C2=A0 In this ca=
se, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both magazines at =
the same place.=20
I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a short=
 lived revival then?
=C2=A0=C2=A0the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....



the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic.


steven rowe


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@ btinternet. com=
> wrote:


=C2=A0=20








--- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14=20





hmm, =C2=A0it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom =C2=A0at large no=
 loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real Western,=
 etc. =C2=A0=20
i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was spearh=
eaded by new editor=C2=A0T.C. Ford=C2=A0with a direct-market=C2=A0Charlton =
Bullseye=C2=A0Special.[6][7]=C2=A0But later that same year, Charlton Comics=
 went out of business;[8]=C2=A0Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991,=
 and its building and press were demolished in 1999."


putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to think t=
hat Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?


steven rowe

=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<<
=C2=A0
Steven,
Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past Oct-8=
8. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
=C2=A0
Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
=C2=A0
Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
=C2=A0
My suspicion, the company closed=C2=A0late 1990, same time as Song Hits exp=
ired.
=C2=A0
Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta group, a=
s before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names & locales to retai=
n a sense of continuity.
=C2=A0
The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul it w=
as printed there.
=C2=A0
Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader was p=
ublished by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
=C2=A0
If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at site =
of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
regards, frank m.

=C2=A0





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You know what I've never read an article on, in my 45 years of collecting a=
nd enjoying comics? The answer to: "Why DID.....Charlton comics go under?"
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:14 AM


=C2=A0=20







That's correct.=C2=A0 Thanks, Darci.

--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:


From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:38 AM


=C2=A0=20



John,
You're recalling Roger Broughton.
Hope this helps,
Darci





From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:28:46 AM
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials

=C2=A0=20





I did some research on the T.C. Ford just a few weeks ago because of someth=
ing else that came up on one of these lists.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Oh, yes, now I rem=
ember, it was in light of=C2=A0(I can't remember his name right now, you kn=
ow, the guy who bought a lot of re-print rights to the Charlton stuuf, Roge=
r something.=C2=A0 Last name begins with a B.)=C2=A0, wherein Ford was clai=
ming a lot of things that no one, including him, would or could verify.=C2=
=A0 He does have a website and apparently is involved in comics, but his cl=
aims about new Charlton pubs just don't seem to hold water.=C2=A0

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 6:53 PM


=C2=A0=20

Well, it is T.C. Ford who says that issues came out.=20
I am a doubter myself.


steven rowe


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrot=
e:


=C2=A0=20








Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two differe=
nt "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now defunct Charlton =
Comics.
And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want Lists,=
 believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely limited numbe=
rs that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
=C2=A0
I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who "kne=
w a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of touch wit=
h that guy, etc.
=C2=A0
Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing "Cha=
rlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt, for the rea=
son that they were not published and do NOT exist.
=C2=A0
I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an angry ret=
ort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?" I just happen =
to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..." yadda,yadda, yadda!
=C2=A0
lol
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM


=C2=A0=20

I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years. =C2=A0 In this ca=
se, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both magazines at =
the same place.=20
I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a short=
 lived revival then?
=C2=A0=C2=A0the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....



the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic.


steven rowe


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@ btinternet. com=
> wrote:


=C2=A0=20








--- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14=20





hmm, =C2=A0it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom =C2=A0at large no=
 loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real Western,=
 etc. =C2=A0=20
i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was spearh=
eaded by new editor=C2=A0T.C. Ford=C2=A0with a direct-market=C2=A0Charlton =
Bullseye=C2=A0Special.[6][7]=C2=A0But later that same year, Charlton Comics=
 went out of business;[8]=C2=A0Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991,=
 and its building and press were demolished in 1999."


putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to think t=
hat Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?


steven rowe

=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<<
=C2=A0
Steven,
Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past Oct-8=
8. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
=C2=A0
Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
=C2=A0
Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
=C2=A0
My suspicion, the company closed=C2=A0late 1990, same time as Song Hits exp=
ired.
=C2=A0
Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta group, a=
s before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names & locales to retai=
n a sense of continuity.
=C2=A0
The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul it w=
as printed there.
=C2=A0
Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader was p=
ublished by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
=C2=A0
If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at site =
of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
regards, frank m.

=C2=A0





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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: The two "Chartlon Bullseye Specials", and T.C. Ford
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Folks,
=C2=A0
Let's have T.C. Ford prove those two Charlton Bullseye Specials came out, s=
ince he says they did. I say bunk. Respectfully.
=C2=A0
Now remember, T.C. Ford is also the fellow, who, about five years ago, said=
 something contrary to that. He at the time said that=C2=A0the two "Charlto=
n=C2=A0Bullseye SPECIALS"=C2=A0were NOT published, but that the contents of=
 those two UNPUBLISHED "Charlton Spotlight Special(s)" issues (two of them,=
 # 1 and # 2), he owns the contents of, and that he was going to finally pu=
blish them. He DID publish a comic, which I bought. He'd said, while advert=
ising it on groups like this one, that in the second issue, he would finall=
y publish the UNpublished contents of Charlton Bullseye Spotlight=C2=A0 # 1=
 and # 2, in the second issue of his new (at the time) comic.
=C2=A0
Well, that second issue never, ever came out. A few months ago, I mentioned=
 here on these Charlton yahoo groups that fact, and he ignored those posts =
(several), completely.
Despite the fact that I typed his name, T.C.Ford, right in the subject bar =
of those posts.=20
=C2=A0
It's my theory that he used that myth he perpetrated, some years ago, above=
, of planning to publish the UNpublished contents of the two planned (but n=
ever published) Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1 and # 2, to sell his own com=
ic # 1. The title of which I forget. Again, he said the unpublished "Charlt=
on Bulleyse Special(s)" # 1 and # 2 contents, would be in issue # 2 of his =
own comic, upcoming, at the time.=20
=C2=A0
=C2=A0But I did buy a copy of # 1 of that comic from him, all those years a=
go, by mail.
It contained new material, done at the time. And it had nothing to do with =
Charlton. Although, he never promised # 1 would have Charlton content. He a=
dvertised # 1 as having nothing to do with Charlton. And of course, # 2, wi=
th the UNpublished Charlton Bullseye Special # 1 and # 2".....never, ever c=
ame out from T.C. Ford, despite the passing of several years. I'll bet his =
yarn about promising to publish the UNpublished interiors of Charlton Bulls=
eye Special # 1 and # 2, in # 2 of his own comic (which never, ever came ou=
t).....sold a lot of copies of # 1, to completists like myself.=20
And I'll bet I wasn't the only one suckered by those posts.=20
=C2=A0
Does anyone else remember those T.C. Ford threads on that topic, maybe 4 or=
 5 years ago? They're probably STILL in the history of either one of these =
two Charlton comics yahoo groups.
=C2=A0
A=C2=A0month or two ago, on these two Charlton yahoo groups,=C2=A0I politel=
y=C2=A0asked T.C. Ford when he would finally publish the contents of the UN=
published Charlton Bullseye Specials # 1 and # 2, right here on these two C=
harlton yahoo groups, and I put his name right in the subject bars of those=
 (various) posts. He ignored all of those posts, completely.=20
=C2=A0
I'm not trying to be unkind, and I certainly don't want to cause dissent of=
 any kind. That said, T.C. Ford should kindly sh$% or get off the pot.
As the saying goes.
=C2=A0
Best to all,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:38 AM


=C2=A0=20





John,
You're recalling Roger Broughton.
Hope this helps,
Darci





From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:28:46 AM
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials

=C2=A0=20





I did some research on the T.C. Ford just a few weeks ago because of someth=
ing else that came up on one of these lists.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Oh, yes, now I rem=
ember, it was in light of=C2=A0(I can't remember his name right now, you kn=
ow, the guy who bought a lot of re-print rights to the Charlton stuuf, Roge=
r something.=C2=A0 Last name begins with a B.)=C2=A0, wherein Ford was clai=
ming a lot of things that no one, including him, would or could verify.=C2=
=A0 He does have a website and apparently is involved in comics, but his cl=
aims about new Charlton pubs just don't seem to hold water.=C2=A0

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 6:53 PM


=C2=A0=20

Well, it is T.C. Ford who says that issues came out.=20
I am a doubter myself.


steven rowe


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrot=
e:


=C2=A0=20








Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two differe=
nt "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now defunct Charlton =
Comics.
And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want Lists,=
 believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely limited numbe=
rs that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
=C2=A0
I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who "kne=
w a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of touch wit=
h that guy, etc.
=C2=A0
Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing "Cha=
rlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt, for the rea=
son that they were not published and do NOT exist.
=C2=A0
I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an angry ret=
ort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?" I just happen =
to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..." yadda,yadda, yadda!
=C2=A0
lol
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM


=C2=A0=20

I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years. =C2=A0 In this ca=
se, I am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both magazines at =
the same place.=20
I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a short=
 lived revival then?
=C2=A0=C2=A0the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....



the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic.


steven rowe


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@ btinternet. com=
> wrote:


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--- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:


From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14=20





hmm, =C2=A0it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom =C2=A0at large no=
 loner know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real Western,=
 etc. =C2=A0=20
i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was spearh=
eaded by new editor=C2=A0T.C. Ford=C2=A0with a direct-market=C2=A0Charlton =
Bullseye=C2=A0Special.[6][7]=C2=A0But later that same year, Charlton Comics=
 went out of business;[8]=C2=A0Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991,=
 and its building and press were demolished in 1999."


putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to think t=
hat Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?


steven rowe

=C2=A0
=C2=A0
<<
=C2=A0
Steven,
Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past Oct-8=
8. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
=C2=A0
Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
=C2=A0
Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
=C2=A0
My suspicion, the company closed=C2=A0late 1990, same time as Song Hits exp=
ired.
=C2=A0
Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta group, a=
s before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names & locales to retai=
n a sense of continuity.
=C2=A0
The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul it w=
as printed there.
=C2=A0
Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader was p=
ublished by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
=C2=A0
If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at site =
of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
regards, frank m.

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interviews and articles at the time state that the changing of the
marketplace from
newstands and casual readers to comic shops and fans-only readership is one
of the things that let Charlton Comics to stop. They had consider returning
as "Whiz Bang!" and they knew they would get some orders -- until fans saw
the printing on the usual Charlton press.

steven rowe

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote=
:

>
>
> You know what I've never read an article on, in my 45 years of collecting
> and enjoying comics? The answer to: "Why DID.....Charlton comics go under=
?"
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com<redrubeheyr=
ube%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com <redrubeheyrube%40yahoo.com=
>
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com <charlton-l%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:14 AM
>
>
>
> That's correct.  Thanks, Darci.
>
> --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Darci <darci386@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: Darci <darci386@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:38 AM
>
>
>
> John,
> You're recalling Roger Broughton.
> Hope this helps,
> Darci
>
> From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
>
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:28:46 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
>
>
>
> I did some research on the T.C. Ford just a few weeks ago because of
> something else that came up on one of these lists.   Oh, yes, now I
> remember, it was in light of (I can't remember his name right now, you kn=
ow,
> the guy who bought a lot of re-print rights to the Charlton stuuf, Roger
> something.  Last name begins with a B.) , wherein Ford was claiming a lot=
 of
> things that no one, including him, would or could verify.  He does have a
> website and apparently is involved in comics, but his claims about new
> Charlton pubs just don't seem to hold water.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/16/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Chartlon Bullseye Specials
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 6:53 PM
>
>
>
>
> Well, it is T.C. Ford who says that issues came out.
> I am a doubter myself.
>
>
> steven rowe
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Rumours have persisted throughout the industry for decades that two
> different "Charlton Bullseye Specials" were published by the now defunct
> Charlton Comics.
> And, numerous collectors still have these two specials on their Want List=
s,
> believing there were indeed published, but in such extremely limited numb=
ers
> that almost noone has ever seen a copy.
>
> I researched this info for years. In many cases, I talked to folks who
> "knew a guy who owned a copy", but in each case, they'd fallen out of tou=
ch
> with that guy, etc.
>
> Anyone foolish enough to still, in this day and age, to be out chasing
> "Charlton Bullseye Special" issues is on a very special Snipe Hunt, for t=
he
> reason that they were not published and do NOT exist.
>
> I fully expect several on this List to reply to this post with an angry
> retort that will go something like this: "Oh yeah, wise guy?!?" I just
> happen to know a guy, who knows another guy, who..." yadda,yadda, yadda!
>
> lol
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Received: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:21 AM
>
>
>
> I bought an issue of "Real West" within the past 5 years.   In this case,=
 I
> am not confusing it with "True West" because I saw both magazines at the
> same place.
> I see (through long googling) that "Real West" was around in 2002 - a sho=
rt
> lived revival then?
>   the magazine did state that they were around in the 1950s....
>
> the wiki is about the comics division, so 1946 is about their first comic=
.
>
> steven rowe
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Frank Motler <frankmotler@ btinternet.
> com> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 15/12/09, s r <sangorshop@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Charlton article: Fantastic Giants
> To: charlton-l@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 11:14
>
> hmm,  it's hard for me to imagine that comics fandom  at large no loner
> know when Charlton sold the rights to Hit Parader, and Real Western, etc.
> i see that wikipedia says "In 1985, a final attempt at a revival was
> spearheaded by new editor T.C. Ford with a direct-market Charlton
> Bullseye Special.[6][7] But later that same year, Charlton Comics went ou=
t
> of business;[8] Charlton Publications followed suit in 1991, and its
> building and press were demolished in 1999."
>
> putting aside the direct market CB Special - is there any reason to think
> that Charlton closing in 1991 isnt accurate?
>
> steven rowe
>
>
>
> <<
>
> Steven,
> Never heard about Real West being sold-on. it doesn't seem to go past
> Oct-88. Ramon tracks this title, he may have better data here.
>
> Most of those western nostalgia mags were on the wane by then, anyway.
>
> Any info about its sale greatly appreciated.
>
> My suspicion, the company closed late 1990, same time as Song Hits expire=
d.
>
> Country Song Roundup & Hit Parader were acquired by Magna/Perretta group,
> as before. It may have been conveneint to quote old names & locales to
> retain a sense of continuity.
>
> The glossy colour adult mag Eros quoted the Derby address, but doubtul it
> was printed there.
>
> Certainly the wiki start date of 1946 is wrong. The first Hit Parader was
> published by Charlton Publishing, back in 1942.
>
> If I lived in US, would certainly visit Derby, have my photo taken at sit=
e
> of old plant (holding up a vintage Charlton comic) etc, etc...
> regards, frank m.
>
>
>
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Oh yeah, Daniel.
=C2=A0
T.C. Ford and about five other people I've traded emails with over the year=
s, continue to foment the myth over the internet, that the Charlton Bullsey=
e SPECIALS (# 1 and # 2) were published, and do exist.
=C2=A0
I bet lots of Snipe Hunts, queries to dealers, and at comics conventions, t=
ake place all the time, from fans and collectors, chasing non existent comi=
cs like these.=20
=C2=A0
T.C. Ford at different times, has stated that they do exist and were publis=
hed, and later, that they were NOT published, but that he WOULD be publishi=
ng them, adding quickly that he'd come into possession of their contents, o=
f these two UNpublished issues. He made this second claim about four years =
ago.
=C2=A0
One person who insisted they exist (not T.C. Ford) became downright hostile=
 to me, when I informed him I did not believe they were published nor exist=
.
This person is still chasing them. EG: still engaged in that particular Sni=
pe Hunt.
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Chartlon Bullseye Specials
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 7:15 AM


=C2=A0=20



I actually found listings for these at Grand Comic Book Database. Here's th=
e link:

http://www.comics. org/series/ 11432/

It's like a bogus issue of the Avengers I chased for years finding conflict=
ing data about its existence.=20

Dean









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From: "Dean" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Getting Punchy!
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I have at least one of the Punchy comics. I might have two of them, were th=
ere just two. I'll have to check. I've been trying to round up the last few=
 years of Charlton stuff myself lately. I came into some good ones just a f=
ew weeks ago from a friend who just mailed me a box of stuff because he kne=
w I adored the company's weird output. I bought one of my Punchy's off the =
stands way back when, but I don't recollect right now if it was the last is=
sue for not.=20

Dean


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i have both of the Punchy comics.
 i bought both from comic shops when they came out.

steven

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>
>
> I have at least one of the Punchy comics. I might have two of them, were
> there just two. I'll have to check. I've been trying to round up the last
> few years of Charlton stuff myself lately. I came into some good ones jus=
t a
> few weeks ago from a friend who just mailed me a box of stuff because he
> knew I adored the company's weird output. I bought one of my Punchy's off
> the stands way back when, but I don't recollect right now if it was the l=
ast
> issue for not.
>
> Dean
>
>=20=20
>


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I've got cover images for three Punchy books. The numbers are #10, 11 & 12.=
 Is that accurate?

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>
> i have both of the Punchy comics.
>  i bought both from comic shops when they came out.
>=20
> steven
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Dean <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > I have at least one of the Punchy comics. I might have two of them, wer=
e
> > there just two. I'll have to check. I've been trying to round up the la=
st
> > few years of Charlton stuff myself lately. I came into some good ones j=
ust a
> > few weeks ago from a friend who just mailed me a box of stuff because h=
e
> > knew I adored the company's weird output. I bought one of my Punchy's o=
ff
> > the stands way back when, but I don't recollect right now if it was the=
 last
> > issue for not.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >=20=20
> >
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Can you put those in the group files or phot section?=C2=A0 I'd like to see=
 them.=C2=A0 Thanks.

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Getting Punchy!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:52 AM


=C2=A0=20



I've got cover images for three Punchy books. The numbers are #10, 11 & 12.=
 Is that accurate?

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
>
> i have both of the Punchy comics.
> i bought both from comic shops when they came out.
>=20
> steven
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Dean <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > I have at least one of the Punchy comics. I might have two of them, wer=
e
> > there just two. I'll have to check. I've been trying to round up the la=
st
> > few years of Charlton stuff myself lately. I came into some good ones j=
ust a
> > few weeks ago from a friend who just mailed me a box of stuff because h=
e
> > knew I adored the company's weird output. I bought one of my Punchy's o=
ff
> > the stands way back when, but I don't recollect right now if it was the=
 last
> > issue for not.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >=20
> >
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>









=20=20=20=20=20=20

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No problem. Look in the Files under "Punchy" for all three cover images.=20

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> Can you put those in the group files or phot section?=C2=A0 I'd like to s=
ee them.=C2=A0 Thanks.
>=20
> --- On Thu, 12/24/09, Dean <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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>=20
> From: Dean <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Getting Punchy!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:52 AM
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I've got cover images for three Punchy books. The numbers are #10, 11 & 1=
2. Is that accurate?
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, s r <sangorshop@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > i have both of the Punchy comics.
> > i bought both from comic shops when they came out.
> >=20
> > steven
> >=20
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Dean <ripjagger@ ..> wrote:
> >=20
> > >
> > >
> > > I have at least one of the Punchy comics. I might have two of them, w=
ere
> > > there just two. I'll have to check. I've been trying to round up the =
last
> > > few years of Charlton stuff myself lately. I came into some good ones=
 just a
> > > few weeks ago from a friend who just mailed me a box of stuff because=
 he
> > > knew I adored the company's weird output. I bought one of my Punchy's=
 off
> > > the stands way back when, but I don't recollect right now if it was t=
he last
> > > issue for not.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >=20
> > >
> >=20
> >=20
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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m/ which compares the Charlton character with MLJ/Radio/Mighty/Red Circle/A=
rchie (whew) characters. It's a fresh take on these classics I think you'll=
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How many Tiffany Sinn appearances are there? I'm aware of the one in Secret=
 Agent #10. But I found a cover image from Career Girl Romances #39 featuri=
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irl Romances #38. What's the story?

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I want to begin a detailed and long overdue reading of Charlton's Judomaste=
r series. Judomaster is a character near and dear to my heart (as you can t=
ell from my nom de electron "Rip Jagger").

Let's begin at the beginning.=20

There is no Judomaster #1. That would be far too simple a start for a Charl=
ton hero. To find the debut of Judomaster you must look at a couple of book=
s.=20

Charlton's Special War Series was a quarterly comic which featured sundry w=
ar stories. After three fairly typical issues the final installment, issue =
#4 bearing a November 1965 date is quite a bit different. On that cover is =
a vivid red and yellow figure and around is arrayed four images of that sam=
e figure displaying various martial arts skills. He is dubbed "America's Ne=
west and Greatest Action-Hero!".=20

The story begins in Part I titled "Introducing Rip Jagger...Judomaster". Th=
e script is by the ubiquitous Joe Gill, Charlton's workhorse writer, but th=
e artwork and concept are from the skilled hand of Frank McLaughlin. The st=
ory begins in June 1943 on a small island in the Pacific where a bunch of U=
.S. soldiers are fighting a "horde" of Japanese soldiers led by Major Yoku.=
 We meet Sgt. Rip Jagger and PFC Al Cole as they stand watch. A figure appe=
ars in the night and Cole fires despite Jagger's warning. They hear sounds =
and Jagger goes out to check the victim and lift the body to his shoulder, =
but as attempts to return he comes under sniper attack by the Japanese who =
swarm the postion. Suddenly when all seems lost a bunch of mysterious warri=
ors appear from the jungle with swords and dispatch the Japanese. Jagger is=
 stunned and finds himself under attack and despite his considerable fighti=
ng ability is knocked out. He awakes in a cave among a group of fighitng me=
n led by Bushiri who takes Jagger to his leader the Sensei an ancient maste=
r warrior. He discovers that the "body" he rescued was in fact the still-li=
ving daughter of the Sensei and he is among a group of dedicated island nat=
ives who want to drive away the Japanese. He learns his comrades from the U=
.S. are dead and so he throws in with the islanders. As Major Yoku continue=
s to spread his tyranny Rip Jagger undergoes training under the guidance of=
 Bushiri.=20

In Part II titled "The Dojo!" Rip Jagger continues his training and learns =
much about the discipline of judo including its emphasis on Renshindo (phys=
ical development), Shouibhuo (combat technique) and Shushinho (mental devel=
opment). He proves a worthy and talented student, and even surprises Bushir=
i with his skill and speed. Eventually Jagger joins the islanders in an att=
ack on the Japanese and is most effective, so much so that Sensei tells him=
 that he has become a symbol for the islanders and so must wear a special c=
ostume to fully realize that role.=20

In Part III titled "Judomaster Is Born" Rip Jagger puts on his distinctive =
red and yellow costume for the first time and carrying only a bambook stick=
 heads off into battle against Major Yoku, attacking his very headquarters.=
 He then puts out a warning to Yoku that he will destroy three targets in s=
uccession. He attacks and destroys the Japanese oil depot, then the naval a=
mmunition depot. During these two attacks he proves resistant to electrical=
 shock. For the last target Judomaster has called in an American airstrike =
on the Japanese barracks and defies bullets to at last defeat Yoku. It seem=
s his costume offers the skilled warrior near-superhuman protection against=
 both bullets and electrical shock. With Yoku defeated, Judomaster stands t=
all waiting the next challenge.=20

There two other features in this comic. One is title "Sport of Judo" and is=
 both written and drawn by Frank McLaughlin and in this three-page feature =
he describes judo, aikido, and karate with special emphasis on the mental r=
equirement of all three.=20

The other feature is a text piece titled "Fight for Freedom" and tells the =
secret story of a heroic pilot named John Howard Mellon who went behind the=
 Iron Curtain and rescued a defecting scientist.

And that is Judomaster's debut. It's a really exciting and action-filled is=
sue. McLaughlin is a skilled martial artist himself and his moves are drawn=
 with precision and accuracy.
=20
Also available in November 1965 from Charlton was Sarge Steel #6. It's of n=
ote to Judomaster fans because Judomaster makes a cameo appearance (a talki=
ng head) in the back-up feature title "What Is Karate?" written and drawn b=
y McLaughlin. It's a classic bit of cross promotion as the three-page featu=
re offers up details about the martial art as if Judomaster were telling it=
 to you. He only appears on the first page though there is a mention that h=
is debut is on sale at that very moment.=20

More to come.

Rip Off


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Say Rip (I mean Dean, heh),
=C2=A0
I've said it before, but Judomaster is my favourite of ALL the 1960's Charl=
ton Action Heroes, as they were called!
=C2=A0
This was an excellent summary of Special War Series # 4, Judomaster's first=
 appearance and debut! Good job!
=C2=A0
I remember fondly the JM cast, Bushuri, Sensei, Susikawa (JM's island asian=
 girlfriend), Tiger, etc,etc.=20
=C2=A0
Like you, I have all these too, including Special War Series # 4 and all th=
e Sarge Steel/-Secret Agent issues. (The title changed at the middle of the=
 run of the series, or so.) Probably because Patrick McGoohan was in a Secr=
et Agent British TV series around that time, or just before, and it played =
over here in North America, as well! I suspect that Charlton thought they'd=
 sell more copies if the title were changed to Secret Agent!
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #1
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:55 AM


=C2=A0=20



I want to begin a detailed and long overdue reading of Charlton's Judomaste=
r series. Judomaster is a character near and dear to my heart (as you can t=
ell from my nom de electron "Rip Jagger").

Let's begin at the beginning.=20

There is no Judomaster #1. That would be far too simple a start for a Charl=
ton hero. To find the debut of Judomaster you must look at a couple of book=
s.=20

Charlton's Special War Series was a quarterly comic which featured sundry w=
ar stories. After three fairly typical issues the final installment, issue =
#4 bearing a November 1965 date is quite a bit different. On that cover is =
a vivid red and yellow figure and around is arrayed four images of that sam=
e figure displaying various martial arts skills. He is dubbed "America's Ne=
west and Greatest Action-Hero! ".=20

The story begins in Part I titled "Introducing Rip Jagger...Judomaster ". T=
he script is by the ubiquitous Joe Gill, Charlton's workhorse writer, but t=
he artwork and concept are from the skilled hand of Frank McLaughlin. The s=
tory begins in June 1943 on a small island in the Pacific where a bunch of =
U.S. soldiers are fighting a "horde" of Japanese soldiers led by Major Yoku=
. We meet Sgt. Rip Jagger and PFC Al Cole as they stand watch. A figure app=
ears in the night and Cole fires despite Jagger's warning. They hear sounds=
 and Jagger goes out to check the victim and lift the body to his shoulder,=
 but as attempts to return he comes under sniper attack by the Japanese who=
 swarm the postion. Suddenly when all seems lost a bunch of mysterious warr=
iors appear from the jungle with swords and dispatch the Japanese. Jagger i=
s stunned and finds himself under attack and despite his considerable fight=
ing ability is knocked out. He awakes in a cave among a group of
 fighitng men led by Bushiri who takes Jagger to his leader the Sensei an a=
ncient master warrior. He discovers that the "body" he rescued was in fact =
the still-living daughter of the Sensei and he is among a group of dedicate=
d island natives who want to drive away the Japanese. He learns his comrade=
s from the U.S. are dead and so he throws in with the islanders. As Major Y=
oku continues to spread his tyranny Rip Jagger undergoes training under the=
 guidance of Bushiri.=20

In Part II titled "The Dojo!" Rip Jagger continues his training and learns =
much about the discipline of judo including its emphasis on Renshindo (phys=
ical development) , Shouibhuo (combat technique) and Shushinho (mental deve=
lopment) . He proves a worthy and talented student, and even surprises Bush=
iri with his skill and speed. Eventually Jagger joins the islanders in an a=
ttack on the Japanese and is most effective, so much so that Sensei tells h=
im that he has become a symbol for the islanders and so must wear a special=
 costume to fully realize that role.=20

In Part III titled "Judomaster Is Born" Rip Jagger puts on his distinctive =
red and yellow costume for the first time and carrying only a bambook stick=
 heads off into battle against Major Yoku, attacking his very headquarters.=
 He then puts out a warning to Yoku that he will destroy three targets in s=
uccession. He attacks and destroys the Japanese oil depot, then the naval a=
mmunition depot. During these two attacks he proves resistant to electrical=
 shock. For the last target Judomaster has called in an American airstrike =
on the Japanese barracks and defies bullets to at last defeat Yoku. It seem=
s his costume offers the skilled warrior near-superhuman protection against=
 both bullets and electrical shock. With Yoku defeated, Judomaster stands t=
all waiting the next challenge.=20

There two other features in this comic. One is title "Sport of Judo" and is=
 both written and drawn by Frank McLaughlin and in this three-page feature =
he describes judo, aikido, and karate with special emphasis on the mental r=
equirement of all three.=20

The other feature is a text piece titled "Fight for Freedom" and tells the =
secret story of a heroic pilot named John Howard Mellon who went behind the=
 Iron Curtain and rescued a defecting scientist.

And that is Judomaster's debut. It's a really exciting and action-filled is=
sue. McLaughlin is a skilled martial artist himself and his moves are drawn=
 with precision and accuracy.

Also available in November 1965 from Charlton was Sarge Steel #6. It's of n=
ote to Judomaster fans because Judomaster makes a cameo appearance (a talki=
ng head) in the back-up feature title "What Is Karate?" written and drawn b=
y McLaughlin. It's a classic bit of cross promotion as the three-page featu=
re offers up details about the martial art as if Judomaster were telling it=
 to you. He only appears on the first page though there is a mention that h=
is debut is on sale at that very moment.=20

More to come.

Rip Off









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Yeah these are treats. Thanks for the kind words.=20

I discoverd to my horror though as I was gathering up materials for these J=
udomaster reviews that I was missing an issue of Sarge Steel, specifically =
#9 the first of the two Secret Agent issues. I thought I had them all, but =
alas not. I quickly got on Mile High and found one, but they said they were=
 out, so I found one on ebay and snagged it. It came a few days ago, so now=
 I'm reading Sarge through. But now I find that Mile High might've had one =
all along, so I might have another coming. So from zero to two in a week pe=
rhaps. It's all good though when you're talking Charlton. I own several of =
the Action Heroes books a few times after upgrading through the years.

Dean


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I've got them all, too. All the Ditko (Ted Cord) Ditko Blue Beetles, all th=
e pre Ditko Blue Beetles just before the Ditko run EG: Dan Garrett Blue Bee=
tle 'vol.2' # 1,2,3,4,5 (3 copies of # 3 if anyone needs a copy,=C2=A0sell =
or trade); all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final is=
sue which I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton Por=
tfolio (really, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to th=
e Ditko run) # 50,51,52,53,and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My # =
51 is only in fair condition.=20
=C2=A0
Let's see: I also have all the Peter Cannon Thunderbolts, all the Captain A=
toms (Including Space Adventures # 33, the original, not reprint,=C2=A0all =
his appearances in Space Adventure, originals, and all his appearances in S=
trange Suspense Stories/-Captain Atom that came later, all the Sarge Steel/=
-Secret Agent(s), the Question 1960's one-shot, =C2=A0all the Judomasters i=
ncluding Special War Series # 4, most all of the Fightin' Five including th=
eir first two apearances in Peacemaker... I have Fightin' Five # 29,31,32,3=
4,35,36,37,38,40 and 41,43,44,47,48,and 49. Note: # 42 through # 49 are 198=
0's much later reprints.
=C2=A0
Anyone got extras of the ones I'm missing, above, for sale or trade? EG: I =
still need Fightin' Five # 28,30,33,39,42,45,46
I could also use of upgrade of Sarge Steel # 1.
=C2=A0
I have most all of the Son of Vulcan issues. In fact, the only one I still =
don't have is # 49, which I'm also looking for. Note: Son of Vulcan appeare=
d first in Mysteries of Unexplained Worlds # 46 through # 48. The title the=
n changed to 'Son of Vulcan', continuing the numbering, with # 49. But ther=
e were only two appearances of him under that title, # 49 and # 50. Between=
 the TWO titles, he appeared in # 46,47,48,49,and 50. # 40 was Roy Thomas' =
first published pro work/-script.
=C2=A0
I also have Six Gun Heroes issues featuring Gun Master # 57 (his first appe=
ance anywhere), 76, as well as vol. 1 # 3 and # 86. I could use LOTS of Gun=
master issues in both titles, if anyone has any for sale or trade....
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 7:14 AM


=C2=A0=20





Yeah these are treats. Thanks for the kind words.=20

I discoverd to my horror though as I was gathering up materials for these J=
udomaster reviews that I was missing an issue of Sarge Steel, specifically =
#9 the first of the two Secret Agent issues. I thought I had them all, but =
alas not. I quickly got on Mile High and found one, but they said they were=
 out, so I found one on ebay and snagged it. It came a few days ago, so now=
 I'm reading Sarge through. But now I find that Mile High might've had one =
all along, so I might have another coming. So from zero to two in a week pe=
rhaps. It's all good though when you're talking Charlton. I own several of =
the Action Heroes books a few times after upgrading through the years.

Dean









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Sarge Steel was a nice character, especially drawn by Dick Giordano.=C2=A0 =
He could sure draw pretty women.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Sarge Steel!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:14 AM


=C2=A0=20





Yeah these are treats. Thanks for the kind words.=20

I discoverd to my horror though as I was gathering up materials for these J=
udomaster reviews that I was missing an issue of Sarge Steel, specifically =
#9 the first of the two Secret Agent issues. I thought I had them all, but =
alas not. I quickly got on Mile High and found one, but they said they were=
 out, so I found one on ebay and snagged it. It came a few days ago, so now=
 I'm reading Sarge through. But now I find that Mile High might've had one =
all along, so I might have another coming. So from zero to two in a week pe=
rhaps. It's all good though when you're talking Charlton. I own several of =
the Action Heroes books a few times after upgrading through the years.

Dean









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The second issue of Judomaster is numbered #89. That's because this issue, =
dated May-June 1966 is a continuation of another series Gunmaster which was=
 actually a continuation of another series Six-Gun Heroes. If it's Charlton=
, you can be sure it's confusing.=20

The lead Judomaster story is in two parts. Part I is titled "Prisoner of Wa=
r". Both story and art are attributed to Frank McLaughlin. After a symbolic=
 splash with Judomaster battling a giant sumo wrestler in a prison camp, we=
 leap to page two and story begins with Sgt. Rip Jagger being called into t=
he office of General Hawkins. Hawkins asks Jagger to volunteer to go behind=
 enemy lines and inflitrate a Japanese prison camp to rescue Captain Brian =
Miller who has unrevealed "valuable information". Of course Jagger voluntee=
rs and soon meets up with a Ranger unit who take him nearly to his destinat=
ion where he allows himself to be captured and taken across the moat into t=
he camp. There he meets the Commander of the camp, who turns out to be a Ni=
njusu. Jagger meets up with other prisoners and discovers that Miller has m=
alaria and hasn't been able to reveal any intelligence. He begins to plan t=
he escape after he learns about Mountain Storm. Mountain Storm is a silent =
giant sumo who uses the prisoners as fodder in his fights to entertain the =
Japanese troops. Jagger arranges the escape and plans to settle the score w=
ith Mountain Storm.=20

Part II is titled "The Mountain Storm" and sees the prisoners continue to p=
lot their escape by building makeshift devices. But the Commander gets wind=
 of the attempt and calls everyone out on the field. Some prisoners slip of=
f to begin the escape using inflatable bladders used by ninjas to walk on w=
ater. Meanwhile Rip Jagger becomes Judomaster and confronts the Commander a=
nd the Mountain Storm. The next several pages are taken up with precise mar=
tial arts action sequences with Judomaster ultimately getting the better of=
 the Montain Storm while the escape continues. But the Mountain Storm has o=
ne card left to play, as his name is apparently also the name of a particul=
arly powerful judo throw, but when attempts it Judomaster is ready and swin=
gs the giant onto his knee for a painful backbreaker. Judomaster then leads=
 the remaining prisoners in an attack on the Japanese overtaking a machine =
gun tower and mowing down some of the enemy. He then overtakes the Commande=
r and defeats him. The battle over Judomaster disappears and Rip Jagger ret=
urns to lead the former prisoners to safety. General Hawkins congratulates =
Jagger on a job well done and mentions Judomaster's role, and it is unclear=
 how much he knows about Jagger's dual identity. The last scene shifts abru=
ptly to the island where Judomaster was trained and a conversaiton between =
Bushiri and Sensei about how sad Suzikawa (Sensei's daughter) is that Jagge=
r is gone.=20

The second story is titled "Self Defense" and is really a tutorial featurin=
g Judomaster and he gives step by step instructions on breaking choke holds=
 and doing leg sweeps and a hip toss that looks much the "Mountain Storm" m=
ove from the first story. Both story and art are again attributed to Frank =
McLaughlin.=20

The text story in this issue is titled "The Finger of Fate" and offers up s=
pecualtion about a moviemaker seeing the perfect performer in a dream and t=
hen taking steps to find that specific individual. That is compared to a Ch=
inese Emperor from ancient times who also followed up on a dream to locate =
and put into place the ideal man to lead as prime minister.=20

This is a solid issue, giving Judomaster plenty to do and also taking a few=
 moments in the action packed story to do a tiny bit of characterization wi=
th the potential love interest. The relationship between Hawkins and Jagger=
 is also one that seems at this point ripe with potential. Mountain Storm w=
ill show up again in the series, and despite not having a single line of di=
alogue proved to be a most memorable opponent for Judomater.=20

More to come.

Rip Off


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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> I've got them all, too. All the Ditko (Ted Cord) Ditko Blue Beetles, all =
the pre Ditko Blue Beetles just before the Ditko run EG: Dan Garrett Blue B=
eetle 'vol.2' # 1,2,3,4,5 (3 copies of # 3 if anyone needs a copy,=C2=A0sel=
l or trade); all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final =
issue which I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton P=
ortfolio (really, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to =
the Ditko run) # 50,51,52,53,and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My =
# 51 is only in fair condition.=20
>

I need to print that Peacemaker issue myself and get a hard copy. Good idea=
. All that other stuff I have.
=A0
> Let's see: I also have all the Peter Cannon Thunderbolts, all the Captain=
 Atoms (Including Space Adventures # 33, the original, not reprint,=C2=A0al=
l his appearances in Space Adventure, originals, and all his appearances in=
 Strange Suspense Stories/-Captain Atom that came later, all the Sarge Stee=
l/-Secret Agent(s), the Question 1960's one-shot, =C2=A0all the Judomasters=
 including Special War Series # 4, most all of the Fightin' Five including =
their first two apearances in Peacemaker... I have Fightin' Five # 29,31,32=
,34,35,36,37,38,40 and 41,43,44,47,48,and 49. Note: # 42 through # 49 are 1=
980's much later reprints.
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I'm missing one of the original Captain Atom issues in the Space Adventure =
run. Just last year I completed my Fightin' 5 collection. It's a fave. Got =
all the other stuff here too.
=A0
> Anyone got extras of the ones I'm missing, above, for sale or trade? EG: =
I still need Fightin' Five # 28,30,33,39,42,45,46
> I could also use of upgrade of Sarge Steel # 1.
> =C2=A0
> I have most all of the Son of Vulcan issues. In fact, the only one I stil=
l don't have is # 49, which I'm also looking for. Note: Son of Vulcan appea=
red first in Mysteries of Unexplained Worlds # 46 through # 48. The title t=
hen changed to 'Son of Vulcan', continuing the numbering, with # 49. But th=
ere were only two appearances of him under that title, # 49 and # 50. Betwe=
en the TWO titles, he appeared in # 46,47,48,49,and 50. # 40 was Roy Thomas=
' first published pro work/-script.
>

It took me years and years to get all the Son of Vulcan issues.


> I also have Six Gun Heroes issues featuring Gun Master # 57 (his first ap=
peance anywhere), 76, as well as vol. 1 # 3 and # 86. I could use LOTS of G=
unmaster issues in both titles, if anyone has any for sale or trade....
> =C2=A0
> Best,
> =C2=A0
> Phil

I'm lucky and I've found quite a few Gunmasters over the years. I think I h=
ave all the self-titled stuff, maybe missing an issue or two, and I have ma=
ny issues of Six-Gun Heroes including that debut I found at a convention a =
few years ago. Sweet but very uneven series.=20

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> --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Dean <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> From: Dean <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Sarge Steel!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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> Yeah these are treats. Thanks for the kind words.=20
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> I discoverd to my horror though as I was gathering up materials for these=
 Judomaster reviews that I was missing an issue of Sarge Steel, specificall=
y #9 the first of the two Secret Agent issues. I thought I had them all, bu=
t alas not. I quickly got on Mile High and found one, but they said they we=
re out, so I found one on ebay and snagged it. It came a few days ago, so n=
ow I'm reading Sarge through. But now I find that Mile High might've had on=
e all along, so I might have another coming. So from zero to two in a week =
perhaps. It's all good though when you're talking Charlton. I own several o=
f the Action Heroes books a few times after upgrading through the years.
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Actually, Dean, it's true that Charlton continued the numbering of Judomast=
er (in Judomaster's second appearance EG: 'Judomaster # 89'), continuing th=
e numbering from the Gunmaster series.
However, in doing so, Charlton SCREWED UP.
=C2=A0
You see, there is also a Gunmaster # 89. The second appearance of Judomaste=
r, if it was going to continue, numbering-wise, from Gunmaster, should have=
 been 'Judomaster # 90'.
=C2=A0
Because, a Gunmaster # 89 exists, also!
=C2=A0
Marvel has made a similar mistake at least a couple of times that I remembe=
r, also. For example, there are two DIFFERENT Daredevil Annual # 4's, the s=
econd of which, should have been numbered Daredevil Annual # 5. They correc=
ted the mistake later, by making the NEXT Daredevil Annual, Annual # 6.
=C2=A0
And, on Ironman, volume 3, as on many Marvel series that have done reboots =
of many titles, starting over at # 1, on Ironman volume 3, they had each is=
sue TWO issue numbers one each cover. By the time they got to # 80/-#425, t=
he next issue was # 81/-#425. So, two # 425's. Did they later catch the err=
or? Nope!
=C2=A0
Does anyone else know of any other series by ANY companies, which screwed u=
p the issue #s at some point? I'd be interested to know!
=C2=A0
This said, thanks for another great report, this time, reviewing Judomaster=
 # 89, his second appearance, following his first, in Special War Series # =
4.
=C2=A0
By the way, Judomaster also appeared in Judo tutorials, back stories, in th=
e Sarge Steel series as well, if memory serves. And, "I think", in a back s=
tory in Peter Cannon:Thunderbolt, Tiger, Judomaster's partner, now an adult=
, after the war, has his own adventure, in civvies! Does anyone remember wh=
at issue that is?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #2
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 6:09 AM


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The second issue of Judomaster is numbered #89. That's because this issue, =
dated May-June 1966 is a continuation of another series Gunmaster which was=
 actually a continuation of another series Six-Gun Heroes. If it's Charlton=
, you can be sure it's confusing.=20

The lead Judomaster story is in two parts. Part I is titled "Prisoner of Wa=
r". Both story and art are attributed to Frank McLaughlin. After a symbolic=
 splash with Judomaster battling a giant sumo wrestler in a prison camp, we=
 leap to page two and story begins with Sgt. Rip Jagger being called into t=
he office of General Hawkins. Hawkins asks Jagger to volunteer to go behind=
 enemy lines and inflitrate a Japanese prison camp to rescue Captain Brian =
Miller who has unrevealed "valuable information" . Of course Jagger volunte=
ers and soon meets up with a Ranger unit who take him nearly to his destina=
tion where he allows himself to be captured and taken across the moat into =
the camp. There he meets the Commander of the camp, who turns out to be a N=
injusu. Jagger meets up with other prisoners and discovers that Miller has =
malaria and hasn't been able to reveal any intelligence. He begins to plan =
the escape after he learns about Mountain Storm. Mountain Storm is a
 silent giant sumo who uses the prisoners as fodder in his fights to entert=
ain the Japanese troops. Jagger arranges the escape and plans to settle the=
 score with Mountain Storm.=20

Part II is titled "The Mountain Storm" and sees the prisoners continue to p=
lot their escape by building makeshift devices. But the Commander gets wind=
 of the attempt and calls everyone out on the field. Some prisoners slip of=
f to begin the escape using inflatable bladders used by ninjas to walk on w=
ater. Meanwhile Rip Jagger becomes Judomaster and confronts the Commander a=
nd the Mountain Storm. The next several pages are taken up with precise mar=
tial arts action sequences with Judomaster ultimately getting the better of=
 the Montain Storm while the escape continues. But the Mountain Storm has o=
ne card left to play, as his name is apparently also the name of a particul=
arly powerful judo throw, but when attempts it Judomaster is ready and swin=
gs the giant onto his knee for a painful backbreaker. Judomaster then leads=
 the remaining prisoners in an attack on the Japanese overtaking a machine =
gun tower and mowing down some of the enemy. He then overtakes the
 Commander and defeats him. The battle over Judomaster disappears and Rip J=
agger returns to lead the former prisoners to safety. General Hawkins congr=
atulates Jagger on a job well done and mentions Judomaster's role, and it i=
s unclear how much he knows about Jagger's dual identity. The last scene sh=
ifts abruptly to the island where Judomaster was trained and a conversaiton=
 between Bushiri and Sensei about how sad Suzikawa (Sensei's daughter) is t=
hat Jagger is gone.=20

The second story is titled "Self Defense" and is really a tutorial featurin=
g Judomaster and he gives step by step instructions on breaking choke holds=
 and doing leg sweeps and a hip toss that looks much the "Mountain Storm" m=
ove from the first story. Both story and art are again attributed to Frank =
McLaughlin.=20

The text story in this issue is titled "The Finger of Fate" and offers up s=
pecualtion about a moviemaker seeing the perfect performer in a dream and t=
hen taking steps to find that specific individual. That is compared to a Ch=
inese Emperor from ancient times who also followed up on a dream to locate =
and put into place the ideal man to lead as prime minister.=20

This is a solid issue, giving Judomaster plenty to do and also taking a few=
 moments in the action packed story to do a tiny bit of characterization wi=
th the potential love interest. The relationship between Hawkins and Jagger=
 is also one that seems at this point ripe with potential. Mountain Storm w=
ill show up again in the series, and despite not having a single line of di=
alogue proved to be a most memorable opponent for Judomater.=20

More to come.

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I should've mentioned that Gunmaster/Judomaster mistake. I have both issues=
, although my Gunmaster issue is pretty scrubby.=20

I haven't checked Thunderbolt to double check, but Tiger does appear as an =
adult in a Nightshade story in the final issue of Captain Atom. I'll touch =
on that in a later report. There's a flashback in which he is training the =
young girl who would become Nightshade in martial arts, and he reflects bac=
k on his own days as a youngster with Judomaster.




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The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster...Traitor!!" and begins with another symbolic splash=
 showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring hi=
s American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a Jap=
anese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story be=
gins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his s=
tart as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla c=
omrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sensei=
 and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things g=
et down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel th=
at will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans fo=
r it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to the local=
 Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster steals a Z=
ero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle location. Meanwhi=
le a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he's aware of=
 Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret scheme to ge=
t information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judomaster uses=
 the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parachutes out a=
t the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American forces to =
surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who knows then t=
hat the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a counter attack =
can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and escapes. But=
 his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now believe tha=
t Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot thread is le=
ft to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

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Rip, I'm enjoying your reviews of Judomaster.=C2=A0 Although I followed the=
 character intermittently when he first came out, I never got into the book=
 that much.=C2=A0 Possibly an underrated and entertaining Charlton hero.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:00 AM


=C2=A0=20



The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster. ..Traitor! !" and begins with another symbolic spla=
sh showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring =
his American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a J=
apanese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story =
begins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his=
 start as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla=
 comrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sens=
ei and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things=
 get down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel =
that will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans =
for it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to
 the local Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster =
steals a Zero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle locatio=
n. Meanwhile a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he'=
s aware of Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret sc=
heme to get information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judom=
aster uses the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parach=
utes out at the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American
 forces to surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who k=
nows then that the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a coun=
ter attack can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and e=
scapes. But his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now =
believe that Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot t=
hread is left to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off









=20=20=20=20=20=20

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Too bad Charlton went the way it did.=C2=A0 They ad some interesting charac=
ters that with time to develop could have been big hits.=C2=A0 They were su=
ch a different fare from what DC and Marvel were offering (not that I didn'=
t like what DC and Marvel were offiering).=C2=A0 Captain Atom, Nightshade, =
the Blue Beetle (both the Dan Garret and Ted Kord versions -- I'm sure more=
 stories would have eventually come tiying the bind between the two charact=
ers more securely), the Question, Thunderbolt, Sarge Steel=C2=A0 and were=
=C2=A0all interesting and at times=C2=A0thought provoking characters.=C2=A0=
 Son of Vulcan needed a little work, so that it wouldn't look like a carbon=
 copy of Thor, but it had promise.=C2=A0 Peacemaker,=C2=A0I thought, was a =
truly unique concept.=C2=A0I also think that the Sentinels, the Shape, Spoo=
kman, Tyro Team had potential.

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From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:00 AM


=C2=A0=20



The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster. ..Traitor! !" and begins with another symbolic spla=
sh showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring =
his American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a J=
apanese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story =
begins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his=
 start as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla=
 comrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sens=
ei and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things=
 get down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel =
that will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans =
for it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to
 the local Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster =
steals a Zero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle locatio=
n. Meanwhile a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he'=
s aware of Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret sc=
heme to get information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judom=
aster uses the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parach=
utes out at the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American
 forces to surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who k=
nows then that the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a coun=
ter attack can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and e=
scapes. But his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now =
believe that Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot t=
hread is left to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off









=20=20=20=20=20=20

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Charlton distribution in my area was somewhat spotty, but I did see at leas=
t one or two issues of all of the characters.

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Allen Smith <metron12001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:45 AM


=C2=A0=20



Rip, I'm enjoying your reviews of Judomaster.=C2=A0 Although I followed the=
 character intermittently when he first came out, I never got into the book=
 that much.=C2=A0 Possibly an underrated and entertaining Charlton hero.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:00 AM

=C2=A0=20

The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster. ..Traitor! !" and begins with another symbolic spla=
sh showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring =
his American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a J=
apanese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story =
begins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his=
 start as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla=
 comrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sens=
ei and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things=
 get down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel =
that will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans =
for it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to
the local Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster s=
teals a Zero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle location=
. Meanwhile a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he's=
 aware of Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret sch=
eme to get information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judoma=
ster uses the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parachu=
tes out at the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American
forces to surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who kn=
ows then that the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a count=
er attack can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and es=
capes. But his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now b=
elieve that Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot th=
read is left to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off

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John,
It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the characte=
rs you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C2=A0 I suppose that's most=
ly due to Dick Giordano.=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton talent he broug=
ht with him, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered.=C2=A0 =
It sure didn't turn out that way.=C2=A0 Did any of the Charlton alumni take=
 another turn at their old characters under DC?
Thanks,
Darci




________________________________
From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 8:48:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3

=C2=A0=20
Too bad Charlton went the way it did.=C2=A0 They had some interesting chara=
cters that with time to develop could have been big hits.=C2=A0 They were s=
uch a different fare from what DC and Marvel were offering (not that I didn=
't like what DC and Marvel were offiering).=C2=A0 Captain Atom, Nightshade,=
 the Blue Beetle (both the Dan Garret and Ted Kord versions -- I'm sure mor=
e stories would have eventually come tiying the bind between the two charac=
ters more securely), the Question, Thunderbolt, Sarge Steel=C2=A0 and were=
=C2=A0all interesting and at times=C2=A0thought provoking characters.=C2=A0=
 Son of Vulcan needed a little work, so that it wouldn't look like a carbon=
 copy of Thor, but it had promise.=C2=A0 Peacemaker,=C2=A0I thought, was a =
truly unique concept.=C2=A0I also think that the Sentinels, the Shape, Spoo=
kman, Tyro Team had potential.

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:00 AM

=C2=A0=20

The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster. ..Traitor! !" and begins with another symbolic spla=
sh showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring =
his American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a J=
apanese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story =
begins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his=
 start as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla=
 comrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sens=
ei and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things=
 get down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel =
that will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans =
for it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to
the local Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster s=
teals a Zero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle location=
. Meanwhile a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he's=
 aware of Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret sch=
eme to get information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judoma=
ster uses the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parachu=
tes out at the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American
forces to surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who kn=
ows then that the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a count=
er attack can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and es=
capes. But his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now b=
elieve that Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot th=
read is left to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off

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Dick Giordano returned to Sarge Steel on The L.A.W. Giordano did the pencil=
s for that series.=20

Has Jim Aparo drawn Nightshade? I'd guess he has somewhere, but I don't rea=
lly know.=20


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"It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charact=
ers you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).  I suppose that's mostly d=
ue to Dick Giordano.  With all the former-Charlton talent he brought with h=
im, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered.  It sure didn't=
 turn out that way.  Did any of the Charlton alumni take another turn at th=
eir old characters under DC?
Thanks,
Darci"


The problem with the DC versions of the Charlton characters was that, after=
 going to the trouble of acquiring them, they did them in a style not reall=
y like that which made the characters interesting in the first place! The q=
uirks were ironed out and they ended up as the usual generic DC / Marvel fo=
rmula with little to distinguish them. I read an issue or two but gave up q=
uickly as they weren't the characters I knew and loved. Maybe the time was =
past by then (the '80s) anyway?=20



If DC had bought the action heroes up in the late '60s, after Charlton disc=
ontinued them and carried them on in the style they were known for (with as=
 many of the original talent involved as possible; Ditko was with DC at tha=
t point and so were Skeates, O'Neill, Aparo etc.) and given them time to de=
velop / succeed under a company with better printing / distribution and clo=
ut etc., it might have been a different story. As it was though, I couldn't=
 see the point of buying in a set of characters and then re-fashioning them=
 till they were something else in all but name! You may as well create some=
thing new from scratch.



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<=C2=A0Did any of the Charlton alumni take another turn at their old charac=
ters under DC?>
=C2=A0
I don't think so.=C2=A0 Though, I know Denny O'Neil wrote for Charlton unde=
r the pseudonym of Sergius O'Shaunessy (I hope I spelled that right) I don'=
t believe that he wrote any stories for any of those characters I mentioned=
.=C2=A0 I'm sure Dean would know better and he=C2=A0is=C2=A0welcome to corr=
ect me if I'm wrong.


--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:02 PM


=C2=A0=20



John,
It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the characte=
rs you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C2=A0 I suppose that's most=
ly due to Dick Giordano.=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton talent he broug=
ht with him, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered.=C2=A0 =
It sure didn't turn out that way.=C2=A0 Did any of the Charlton alumni take=
 another turn at their old characters under DC?
Thanks,
Darci

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 8:48:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3

=C2=A0=20
Too bad Charlton went the way it did.=C2=A0 They had some interesting chara=
cters that with time to develop could have been big hits.=C2=A0 They were s=
uch a different fare from what DC and Marvel were offering (not that I didn=
't like what DC and Marvel were offiering).=C2=A0 Captain Atom, Nightshade,=
 the Blue Beetle (both the Dan Garret and Ted Kord versions -- I'm sure mor=
e stories would have eventually come tiying the bind between the two charac=
ters more securely), the Question, Thunderbolt, Sarge Steel=C2=A0 and were=
=C2=A0all interesting and at times=C2=A0thought provoking characters.=C2=A0=
 Son of Vulcan needed a little work, so that it wouldn't look like a carbon=
 copy of Thor, but it had promise.=C2=A0 Peacemaker,=C2=A0I thought, was a =
truly unique concept.=C2=A0I also think that the Sentinels, the Shape, Spoo=
kman, Tyro Team had potential.

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Dean <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:00 AM

=C2=A0=20

The saga of Sgt. Rip Jagger, The Judomaster continues in issue #90 of the r=
un. The issue is dated August 1966 and the book is issued bimonthly from Ch=
arlton. And for the record a subscription for the entire year would be 70 c=
ents. I miss the good old days.=20

There are no credits for this issue, but clearly Frank McLaughlin is at the=
 helm on art and almost certainly on the scripting as well. The first story=
 is titled "Judomaster. ..Traitor! !" and begins with another symbolic spla=
sh showing Judomaster on the radio in the presence of Tokyo Rose imploring =
his American comrades to surrender to the Japanese. Then we are told of a J=
apanese missle capapble of destroying any large city in the U.S. The story =
begins properly in the Pacific on the island where Judomaster first got his=
 start as Rip Jagger is walking through the jungle looking for his guerilla=
 comrades. He's attacked but it's Bushiri, his mentor who takes him to Sens=
ei and the waiting arms of his apparent romantic interest Suzi. Then things=
 get down to business as Sensei informs Rip that they have developed intel =
that will allow him to get to the missle and destroy both it and the plans =
for it. Bushiri takes Judomaster and some other island guerillas to
the local Japanese airstrip where they overcome the guards and Judomaster s=
teals a Zero which he uses to strafe the enemy then fly the missle location=
. Meanwhile a message is sent to General Hawkins who now confirms that he's=
 aware of Rip Jagger's dual identity as Judomaster and also of a secret sch=
eme to get information out of Japan, but a plan he hopes not to use. Judoma=
ster uses the Zero in a Kamikaze run to blow up the missle while he parachu=
tes out at the last moment.=20

In Part II titled "Tokyo Express" Judomaster steals a motorcycle, defeating=
 some Japanese troops to boot, then motors off to the Japanese command post=
 which he crashes. Using speed and surprise he catapults himself from the m=
otorbike and crashes through a window into a meeting of Japanese generals w=
here he finds the missle plans and burns them. His escape goes rather smoot=
hly as he exits the buiding, locates his bike and heads off. But a bullet w=
recks him and he has to fight off many soldiers until he is at long last kn=
ocked out and taken to the base commander who has a particularly beefy fell=
ow beging beating the restrained Judomaster. There is this secret plan Hawk=
ins had alluded to earlier but to make it work Judomaster must take a prett=
y severe beating which he does before he at last taken to another location =
on the base. There he is taken into a radio room where he meets Tokyo Rose =
herself and he pretends to turn traitor and implore the American
forces to surrender. This is it turns out a coded message to Hawkins who kn=
ows then that the missle and the plans have both been destroyed and a count=
er attack can commence. Judomaster then breaks free from his captors and es=
capes. But his message has been heard by thousands of troops and they now b=
elieve that Judomaster has become both a coward and a traitor. That plot th=
read is left to develop in the next issue as thi story comes to an end.=20

There are three additional features in this issue. The first is the initial=
 instalment of "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" the proposed letters co=
lumn. In this first one there is a message from Editor Dick Giordano asking=
 for letters to fill up the column in future issues. He also hints of excit=
ing new features to appear in upcoming issues.=20

This is followed by a two-page comics feature by Pete Morisi (uncredited by=
 certainly him) titled "The Roof of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born"=
 which gives information about the Charlton hero Peter Cannon The Thunderbo=
lt and about how he gained his powers from intense training in the Himalaya=
s among the monks there and from intense study of the Scriptures of Lamaism=
. There is the suggestion that any human can achieve these abilities with w=
ork and focus.=20

The text feature in this issue is really strange and it's titled "Melifera =
Asamsonii on the Warpath" and talks about how the world by ultimately be de=
stroyed by insects, specifically Africanized bees. The term "killer bee" is=
 not used but this is the same species. Also there's talk of super ants and=
 of potential use of both bees and ants as weapons in war.=20

You can tell that the intention with Judomaster is to develop a hero with s=
ome aspects of the Marvel magic, essentially heroes with problems. Making J=
udomaster appear to be a traitor would appear in this issue to be a backgro=
und story that will develop over time in the series. That will remain to be=
 seen. There was less empahasis on the pure martial arts aspect of the seri=
es this time and more just plain rollicking action.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off

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<"...I couldn't see the point of buying in a set of characters and then re-=
fashioning them till they were something else in all but name! You may as w=
ell create something new from scratch.">
=C2=A0
Agreed.=C2=A0 I did similar as you and bought some of the books with these =
characters.=C2=A0 The one that I found the most like the Charlton version (=
at least in the beginning) was the Blue Beetle.
=C2=A0
It's truly ashame what DC did to these characters.


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From: laurencevegan2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton characters at DC
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:56 PM


=C2=A0=20



"It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charact=
ers you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC). I suppose that's mostly du=
e to Dick Giordano. With all the former-Charlton talent he brought with him=
, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered. It sure didn't tu=
rn out that way. Did any of the Charlton alumni take another turn at their =
old characters under DC?
Thanks,
Darci"

The problem with the DC versions of the Charlton characters was that, after=
 going to the trouble of acquiring them, they did them in a style not reall=
y like that which made the characters interesting in the first place! The q=
uirks were ironed out and they ended up as the usual generic DC / Marvel fo=
rmula with little to distinguish them. I read an issue or two but gave up q=
uickly as they weren't the characters I knew and loved. Maybe the time was =
past by then (the '80s) anyway?=20

If DC had bought the action heroes up in the late '60s, after Charlton disc=
ontinued them and carried them on in the style they were known for (with as=
 many of the original talent involved as possible; Ditko was with DC at tha=
t point and so were Skeates, O'Neill, Aparo etc.) and given them time to de=
velop / succeed under a company with better printing / distribution and clo=
ut etc., it might have been a different story. As it was though, I couldn't=
 see the point of buying in a set of characters and then re-fashioning them=
 till they were something else in all but name! You may as well create some=
thing new from scratch.









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The DC versions of the Charlton characters were too run of the mill.=C2=A0 =
The Charlton versions might have had flaws, but it was the idiosyncracies t=
hat made them stand out from the rest of what was on the stands.=C2=A0 A so=
rt of Charlton point of view.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton characters at DC
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:00 PM


=C2=A0=20



<"...I couldn't see the point of buying in a set of characters and then re-=
fashioning them till they were something else in all but name! You may as w=
ell create something new from scratch.">
=C2=A0
Agreed.=C2=A0 I did similar as you and bought some of the books with these =
characters.=C2=A0 The one that I found the most like the Charlton version (=
at least in the beginning) was the Blue Beetle.
=C2=A0
It's truly ashame what DC did to these characters.

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, laurencevegan2 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: laurencevegan2 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton characters at DC
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:56 PM

=C2=A0=20

"It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charact=
ers you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC). I suppose that's mostly du=
e to Dick Giordano. With all the former-Charlton talent he brought with him=
, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered. It sure didn't tu=
rn out that way. Did any of the Charlton alumni take another turn at their =
old characters under DC?
Thanks,
Darci"

The problem with the DC versions of the Charlton characters was that, after=
 going to the trouble of acquiring them, they did them in a style not reall=
y like that which made the characters interesting in the first place! The q=
uirks were ironed out and they ended up as the usual generic DC / Marvel fo=
rmula with little to distinguish them. I read an issue or two but gave up q=
uickly as they weren't the characters I knew and loved. Maybe the time was =
past by then (the '80s) anyway?=20

If DC had bought the action heroes up in the late '60s, after Charlton disc=
ontinued them and carried them on in the style they were known for (with as=
 many of the original talent involved as possible; Ditko was with DC at tha=
t point and so were Skeates, O'Neill, Aparo etc.) and given them time to de=
velop / succeed under a company with better printing / distribution and clo=
ut etc., it might have been a different story. As it was though, I couldn't=
 see the point of buying in a set of characters and then re-fashioning them=
 till they were something else in all but name! You may as well create some=
thing new from scratch.

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Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 20 =
pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, afte=
r he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never use=
d any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cannon=
 series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlton =
Spotlight #4.

I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain Ato=
m, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in work=
ing with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare except=
ions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.

=3DMike A.

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>
> John,
> It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charac=
ters you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C2=A0 I suppose that's mo=
stly due to Dick Giordano.=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton talent he bro=
ught with him, I'd have thought these characters would have prospered.=C2=
=A0 It sure didn't turn out that way.=C2=A0 Did any of the Charlton alumni =
take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> Thanks,
> Darci



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Michael,
Thanks for the information about Pete Morisi (even though it is a bit puzzl=
ing).
Re: Steve Ditko, that would be Len Wein (in Blue Beetle #5 (Oct 1986)) or D=
ennis O'Neil (Question #1 (Feb 1987)), and Paul Kupperberg (DC Comics Prese=
nts #90 (Feb 1986) or Cary Bates (Captain Atom #1 (March 1987))?
Thanks again,
Darci




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=C2=A0=20
Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 20 =
pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, afte=
r he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never use=
d any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cannon=
 series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlton =
Spotlight #4.

I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain Ato=
m, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in work=
ing with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare except=
ions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.

=3DMike A.

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>
> John,
> It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charac=
ters you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C3=82=C2=A0 I suppose tha=
t's mostly due to Dick Giordano.=C3=82=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton t=
alent he brought with him, I'd have thought these characters would have pro=
spered.=C3=82=C2=A0 It sure didn't turn out that way.=C3=82=C2=A0 Did any o=
f the Charlton alumni take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> Thanks,
> Darci





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Judomaster #91 is dated October 1966. The story and art are by Frank McLaug=
hlin. The issue picks up immediately after the events of the previous issue=
.

The Judomaster story this time is titled "Man Without A Country!" and begns=
 with the "Crimson Crusher" (one of two nicknames used for Judomaster in th=
e series, the other being "Scarlet Smasher") diving onto a junk in the harb=
or and finding it operated by beautiful woman, an agent sent to pick him up=
 by General Hawkins following his escape from the Japanese. Her name is Syl=
via Coates and she says she is the daughter of a missionary who was killed =
by the Japanese and so she works to thwart them. She takes Judomaster back =
to the island where he was trained and he is reunited with Suzi and his men=
tor Bushiri. They indicate they know that his role as a "traitor" is a ruse=
. Next we see Rip Jagger in General "Hawk" Hawkins office getting his order=
s for his next mission. That mission takes him to Wyoming to infiltrate a J=
apanese internment camp in which a security leak has been discovered to exi=
st. Rip poses as a guard at the camp and quickly follows a young Japanese-A=
merican boy and finds "The Cat" a notorious Kendo master and a many of myst=
ery who has his face hidden at all times. Rip discovers that secrets are be=
ing transported out of the camp by use of hollow chopsticks. The next day R=
ip finds The Cat all decked out in his Kendo rip, battling two opponents bu=
t using tricks to defeat them. Despite this the young boy clearly idolizes =
the The Cat. The Cat takes issue with Rip's criticism and strikes him and R=
ip challenges him to a battle that The Cat says must be to the death. The a=
gree to meet early the next morning. Rip brushes up on his Kendo technique =
then puts on his Judomaster costume, all the while being watched by the you=
ng boy. He heads off to his duel with The Cat and the begin a battle that l=
asts through the morning. Finally the younster throws a rock that strikes J=
udomaster giving The Cat the advantage. The boy did it help his hero The Ca=
t save face, but The Cat's merciless desire to kill his weakened foe makes =
the boy see the flaws in his hero and he helps Judomaster after Judomaster =
fends off The Cat's first attack. The battle continues for a few moments bu=
t The Cat falls from a cliff. His fate is somewhat unresolved, but I guess =
we are to assume he died. The boy admits his mistake and wants to go with J=
udomaster, but is denied. Later General Hawkins gives Rip Jagger new orders=
 to break up an international spy ring and he flies off to complete his mis=
sion. But he discovers that the young boy has stowed away on the plane.

The second feature in this issue is the debut of Sarge Steel or really the =
continuation of that feature sliding from his own book into the back of Jud=
omaster. There are no credits but the feature is certainly drawn by Dick Gi=
ordano and GCD says Joe Gill did the script. Titled the "Case of the Double=
 Agent" this is File 110. It begins with Sarge Steel shooting an astronaut =
as he approaches his rocket. It turns out the victim was a foreign agent po=
sing as an astronaut and he poisons himself before he can be questioned. Sa=
rge knows that the spy was sent by Irena Dubaya, a dangerous foreign agent =
who just happens to have a bug on Steel and plans to take her revenge. She =
poses as a replacement secretary for Sarge in his Private Investigator offi=
ce but he recognizes her and then decides to pretend to become a double age=
nt offering to sell his services to the highest bidder. She eventually offe=
rs him a job as a double-spy but not before he has beat up a few of her thu=
gs with his steel fist. She takes a photo of his first payoff and Sarge rea=
lizes he is playing a most dangerous game as the first part of the story en=
ds.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" closes out the issue and it offers up =
three letters from fans. All are flattering, some more that others, but man=
y ask about the design of Judomaster and its obvious connection to the Japa=
nese Empire. The editors indicate they feel enough time has passed but they=
 were nervous about the choice of the Rising Sun as a key graphic element. =
Also included on this page is a biographical sketch of Frank McLaughlin who=
 is called the "Creator-Writer-Artist" of Judomaster. A photo of McLaughlin=
 is also shown.

You can feel that the series is getting itself together a bit in this issue=
. The characterizations are strong and the action is pretty dandy. There is=
 a great full-page splash of the fight between Judomaster and The Cat. Over=
all you can really tell that editor Dick Giordano is wanting to give his Ac=
tion-Hero books a distinctive if somewhat Marvelesque feel in their tone.

More to come.=20

Rip Off


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Judomaster #92 is dated December 1966. Frank McLaughlin's name is the sole =
name listed and I assume he again is responsible for both story and art.

"Judomaster meets The Smiling Skull" begins right where the last issue ende=
d with the plane carrying Rip Jagger landing in Europe so that he can comba=
t the spy ring he began investigating in the previous issue. Also still abo=
ard that plane is the young Japanese-American boy who learned that Rip Jagg=
er was Judomaster and who helped him in his battle with The Cat. Rip leaves=
 the nameless boy with the MPs at the airbase but he slips away. Rip and hi=
s European contact follow a known spy but they are spotted and the spy runs=
 away before being intercepted by the young boy who has followed Rip yet ag=
ain. The spy captures the kid and uses him to escape. Intelligence reports =
allow Rip to discover the likely location of the spy ring as well as its le=
ader a man named Rudolf Wolk, more infamously known as "The Smiling Skull".=
 (Note: This villain first appeared in Sarge Steel #3 some years before.) R=
ip dons his Judomaster gear and is air dropped into the base where he is im=
mediately intercepted by The Smiling Skull and his men. The Skull has heard=
 of Judomaster's skills and wants a hand-to-hand duel with him promising hi=
m the safety of the boy and himself if Judomater prevails, but with the edg=
e that bright searchlights will be used to diminish Judomaster's eyesight. =
The two struggle in the glare of bright searhlights, which continue to burn=
 and in fact increase in number and intensity throughout the fight. Ultimat=
ely Judomaster knocks out The Skull, but he himself collapses in exhaustion=
. He is about to be shot by the Skull's men regardless of their bargain whe=
n bombs begin to explode around them all. He finds the young boy who he now=
 calls "Tiger" but before they can leave Judomaster reveals that he has gon=
e blind. With this revelation, the story ends.

The next feature is three pages and is titled "Judomaster's Sport of Judo".=
 In this piece by McLaughlin Judomaster gives detailed instructions in the =
use of two moves, one called "Kubi-Nage" a head lock throw, and the other c=
alled "Tsurikomi-Goshi a lifting hip throw.

The back up is the second half of the Sarge Steel adventure by Joe Gill and=
 Dick Giordano called File 110 "Case of the Double Agent". The story begins=
 with Sarge and the spy Irena Dubaya on a military base where Dubaya is get=
ting photos of the secure installation with a belt-buckle camera. Sarge is =
still pretending to be a double agent offering his services to the foreign =
spy ring. He tries though to turn Dubaya over to the Security chief of the =
base a Colonel Trask, but it turns out Trask is also a spy and having revea=
led his true colors Steel is forced to fight Trask saved from a bullet by h=
is steel hand deflecting it. He knocks out Trask but Dubaya gives him a jud=
o flip and gets him at gunpoint. Then Trask and Dubaya take Steel aboard a =
jet and overpower the pilots and steal it with the intent of dumping the bo=
dies along with Steel's out the bomb doors. Steel frustrates Trask's attemp=
ts to seal him inside a bomb casing using his steel mitt and uses its singl=
e-shot .38 gun to do him in. He then uses the hands sleeping gas to overcom=
e Dubaya and take over the plane landing it safely and handing the spies ov=
er to the authorties.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up four letters, most complimen=
tary of the comic to date, though a few are not happy with Judomaster's pon=
ytail. There is mention made of the 25 cent comic Fantastic Giants. Of note=
 is that one of the letters is from famous fan Bill Schelly.

And that wraps another issue of Judomaster. A few things are apparent at th=
is point in the series. One that the stories will continue from issue to is=
sue with a clear sense of continuity between tales. Also that the continuit=
y will be more strongly enhanced between comic book series as the villain h=
ere The Smiling Skull is from another comic to begin with. This is clearly =
an attempt by Dick Giordano to build a line-up that feeds across titles and=
 essentially develop a Charlton universe. There will be other examples of t=
hese attempts at continuity, some quite cleverly done.

More to come.=20

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A good=C2=A0review, Rip.
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Judomaster #92 is dated December 1966. Frank McLaughlin's name is the sole =
name listed and I assume he again is responsible for both story and art.

"Judomaster meets The Smiling Skull" begins right where the last issue ende=
d with the plane carrying Rip Jagger landing in Europe so that he can comba=
t the spy ring he began investigating in the previous issue. Also still abo=
ard that plane is the young Japanese-American boy who learned that Rip Jagg=
er was Judomaster and who helped him in his battle with The Cat. Rip leaves=
 the nameless boy with the MPs at the airbase but he slips away. Rip and hi=
s European contact follow a known spy but they are spotted and the spy runs=
 away before being intercepted by the young boy who has followed Rip yet ag=
ain. The spy captures the kid and uses him to escape. Intelligence reports =
allow Rip to discover the likely location of the spy ring as well as its le=
ader a man named Rudolf Wolk, more infamously known as "The Smiling Skull".=
 (Note: This villain first appeared in Sarge Steel #3 some years before.) R=
ip dons his Judomaster gear and is air dropped into the base where
 he is immediately intercepted by The Smiling Skull and his men. The Skull =
has heard of Judomaster's skills and wants a hand-to-hand duel with him pro=
mising him the safety of the boy and himself if Judomater prevails, but wit=
h the edge that bright searchlights will be used to diminish Judomaster's e=
yesight. The two struggle in the glare of bright searhlights, which continu=
e to burn and in fact increase in number and intensity throughout the fight=
. Ultimately Judomaster knocks out The Skull, but he himself collapses in e=
xhaustion. He is about to be shot by the Skull's men regardless of their ba=
rgain when bombs begin to explode around them all. He finds the young boy w=
ho he now calls "Tiger" but before they can leave Judomaster reveals that h=
e has gone blind. With this revelation, the story ends.

The next feature is three pages and is titled "Judomaster' s Sport of Judo"=
. In this piece by McLaughlin Judomaster gives detailed instructions in the=
 use of two moves, one called "Kubi-Nage" a head lock throw, and the other =
called "Tsurikomi-Goshi a lifting hip throw.

The back up is the second half of the Sarge Steel adventure by Joe Gill and=
 Dick Giordano called File 110 "Case of the Double Agent". The story begins=
 with Sarge and the spy Irena Dubaya on a military base where Dubaya is get=
ting photos of the secure installation with a belt-buckle camera. Sarge is =
still pretending to be a double agent offering his services to the foreign =
spy ring. He tries though to turn Dubaya over to the Security chief of the =
base a Colonel Trask, but it turns out Trask is also a spy and having revea=
led his true colors Steel is forced to fight Trask saved from a bullet by h=
is steel hand deflecting it. He knocks out Trask but Dubaya gives him a jud=
o flip and gets him at gunpoint. Then Trask and Dubaya take Steel aboard a =
jet and overpower the pilots and steal it with the intent of dumping the bo=
dies along with Steel's out the bomb doors. Steel frustrates Trask's attemp=
ts to seal him inside a bomb casing using his steel mitt and uses
 its single-shot .38 gun to do him in. He then uses the hands sleeping gas =
to overcome Dubaya and take over the plane landing it safely and handing th=
e spies over to the authorties.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up four letters, most complimen=
tary of the comic to date, though a few are not happy with Judomaster's pon=
ytail. There is mention made of the 25 cent comic Fantastic Giants. Of note=
 is that one of the letters is from famous fan Bill Schelly.

And that wraps another issue of Judomaster. A few things are apparent at th=
is point in the series. One that the stories will continue from issue to is=
sue with a clear sense of continuity between tales. Also that the continuit=
y will be more strongly enhanced between comic book series as the villain h=
ere The Smiling Skull is from another comic to begin with. This is clearly =
an attempt by Dick Giordano to build a line-up that feeds across titles and=
 essentially develop a Charlton universe. There will be other examples of t=
hese attempts at continuity, some quite cleverly done.

More to come.=20

Rip Off









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Wow! I read about this online but dismissed it since I have many of the sto=
ries in B&W from Greg Theakston's various efforts. But one glimpse showed m=
e I wanted this despite it's nigh forty dollar price tag.=20

Well today I emptied my change collector which yielded plenty of jack to br=
ing this baby home. I collect change for just this sort of mad money experi=
ence. And today I went and gathered it up.=20

This is pretty much a pure Charlton reprint collection, though there are a =
few stories from other publishers. Since Charlton won't drag the fanboys in=
 but Ditko will, I understand the packaging, but still and all it's interes=
ting that this might just be the biggest Charlton reprint volume in my coll=
ection. The only others close would be the DC Archives with Ditko's Blue Be=
etle, Question and Captain Atom work.

The volume is pretty neatly done, with a beautiful cover and dandy binding.=
 There are lots of covers and even a few stories not of the horror persuasi=
on.=20

Highly recommended, so check out those change bowls right away.=20=20


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Judomaster #93 is dated February 1967. The story and art are credited to Fr=
ank McLaughlin and Dick Giordano is credited as the editor.

The story "Meet The Tiger" picks right up where the last issue ended. Judom=
aster and the young Japanese-American boy Rip Jagger has dubbed "Tiger" are=
 on in the middle of a bombing raid scheduled by the Allies six hours after=
 Judomaster entered the lair of The Smiling Skull, a Nazi spymaster. During=
 a hand-to-hand battle with the Skull, Judomaster has been blinded by inten=
se light. The scene shifts to a military hospital where Rip Jagger is in be=
d with his eyes bandaged. Around him stand Bushiri his trainer, Suzi his be=
loved, General Hawkings his commander, and the boy "Tiger". Rip is understa=
ndably depressed by his apparent blindness and requests solitude. Everyone =
leaves save the boy who overhears his hero bemoan his fate and confess he i=
s of no use in the war effort anymore. The boy is heartbroken and confronts=
 Rip calling him a coward then running away. He then goes to General Hawkin=
s and volunteers to take Judomaster's place despite his age. Hawkins at fir=
st rejects him, but then thinks that making Rip think that Tiger is in fact=
 going to replace him might snap Judomaster out of his depression. So Hawki=
ns arranges with Bushiri for Tiger to go the island and begin training. Rip=
 awaits the day the bandages come off and he is informed of Tiger's new rol=
e. The scene shifts to Tiger's training which lasts many weeks. Suddenly Ju=
domaster appears and announces that he is back, his eyes have healed and he=
 has a mission to take out an enemy gun site. Tiger having finished his tra=
ining is given a costume similar to Judomaster's by the Sensei and the team=
 of Judomaster and Tiger is born. They head to the island where the enemy g=
un is located accompanied by Bushiri and his marauders. They stealthily pro=
wl the enemy lines, climb a great cliff and while Bushiri's men provide a d=
istraction they attack the giant gun with Judomaster fighting the troops an=
d Tiger placing the explosives. The gun explodes and both Judomaster and Ti=
ger dive from the high cliff into the sea. Judomaster is picked by Bushiri =
but Tiger is picked up by a different boat, one containing Judomaster's old=
 enemy The Mountain Storm. At this point the story ends.

Another feature is "The Kiai Shout" a two-page piece by McLauglin detailing=
 the value of the shout during combat not only in judo but other forms such=
 as fencing.

The Sarge Steel story by Joe Gill and artists Bill Montes and Dick Giordano=
 in this issue is File 111 "Case of the Devil's Wife". Sarge Steel is drivi=
ng through town and comes under gunfire by a pursuing car. He shoots back w=
ith special explosive ammunition and disables the enemy's car. He heads to =
the airport to meet Ambassador Bruyden but is met by a beautiful redhead wh=
o gives him a kiss which paralyzes Sarge. Meanwhile the woman and her accom=
plice take the ambassador away in a wheelchair. When Sarge recovers he and =
another agent Lowell Cade check into the woman and Sarge learns she is call=
ed "The Devil's Bride" and that she is an accomplished international blackm=
ailer. Sarge threatens some other enemy agents with rough treatment if they=
 do not give him the Devil's Bride's location but when he returns to his ow=
n apartment she is waiting. They struggle but her perfume paralyzes him aga=
in and he is taken by helicopter to an island estate where he finds Ambassa=
dor Bruyden who is carrying an explosive attache case. Sarge takes the Brid=
e hostage but the guards prepare to release guard dogs on him as the story =
abruptly ends.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" features two pages and five lengthy le=
tters. There is another by famous fan Bill Schelly and several that applaud=
 the development of Judomaster and the addition of a letters page to the Ch=
arlton comics. And the idea of "Action-Heroes" is specifically referenced b=
y Giordano as he talks about how Charlton wants heroes without powers (save=
 for Captain Atom who has at this time been de-powered quite a bit) with an=
 emphasis on training and equipment. This according to Giordano gives the l=
ine a great logic across the board, and a great realism. Giordano also talk=
s about the advantage an artist has when he also writes a comic such as McL=
aughlin or Pete Morisi (PAM) and how much of Marvel's success was due to Ja=
ck Kirby.

This is a really outstanding issue of Judomaster. After several issues of p=
reparation Tiger is at least unleashed on the reader and the series finally=
 arrives at its mature state. McLaughlin's artwork is in top form at this p=
oint and Giordano's work on Sarge Steel is excellent. The sense of Judomast=
er being part of a larger Charlton Universe is enhanced by a wonderful hous=
e ad featuring the "Action Heroes". This is certainly one of Charlton's pea=
k periods.

This comic was reprinted under the Modern imprint in the 1970's.

More to come.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dean" <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>
> Judomaster #92 is dated December 1966. Frank McLaughlin's name is the sol=
e name listed and I assume he again is responsible for both story and art.

I've been enjoying your reports, Rip. They make me want to dig out my copie=
s and reread them. I've always liked Judomaster and thought that Frank McLa=
ughlin did a great job on them. I got to meet him at a convention in Westch=
ester about fifteen years ago and he did a sketch of Judomaster for me. The=
 funny thing was, he didn't remember the costume, so, I had to find a copy =
of it at the convention for reference. When he was done, I asked him if he =
wanted the copy of Special War Series #4 that he had used for reference and=
 he gratefully accepted it.=20

Tony D.=20


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Judomster #94 is dated April 1967. The only credit is "McLaughlin" so I ass=
ume that Frank McLaughlin is again responsible for both story and artwork.

The story titled "Tiger Hunt" begins with a symbolic splash page featuring =
mirror panels one showing a real tiger closing in on a tethered deer while =
hunters wait in ambush and the other shows Judomaster tied to a post while =
his young partner Tiger comes to his aid and Japanese soldiers wait in ambu=
sh. The story begins where it ended with Tiger being picked up out of the o=
cean by Japanese troops led by Mountain Storm a massive Sumo wrestler who o=
nce before battled Judomaster. He is taken back to shore, meanwhile Judomas=
ter leaves Bushiri and his men to swim back to look for Tiger. Tiger is tie=
d to a tree, but using a Ninja trick he slips his bonds and escapes into th=
e jungle much to Mountain Storm's chagrin. Tiger looks for a cache of equip=
ment he and Judomaster has hidden on the beach previously and finds a camof=
lauged poncho and some other Ninjutsu tricks of the trade. He throws powder=
 into the face of a soldier and escapes again into the jungle. The Japanese=
 led by Mountain Storm and Commander Suzi look for Tiger but are unsuccessf=
ul and begin to imagine him to be almost magical. Judomaster meanwhile sear=
ches for his lost partner and falls into a pit trap set for Tiger. Judomast=
er is tied to a post by the Commander and set up as bait. Tiger shows up to=
 help but gets himself snared in a rope and ends up dangling from a tree. T=
he two are thrown into a pit and a real tiger is brought out and released f=
rom its cage into the pit but Judomaster using techniques of Karate strikin=
g demonstrated in a later text piece in this very issue knocks out the big =
cat. He and Tiger then use their nimbleness to escape the pit and knock the=
 Mountain Storm and the Japanese soldiers into it. The reunited team then f=
ind a raft and paddle away from the dangerous island.

"Karate Man vs. The Bulls!" is a two-page piece by McLaughlin with Dick Gio=
rdano inks which talks about the power of the Karate hand strike and how en=
durance training in harsh weather. A particular master of Karate Mas Oyama =
is shown hewing off the horn of a bull which is charging at him.

Sarge Steel is back in Part II of File 111 "Case of the Devil's Wife" by th=
e team of Joe Gill on scripit, Bill Montes on pencils and Dick Giordano on =
inks. Sarge and the kidnapped ambassador find themselves on an island priso=
ners of Satana the Devils Bride. She unleashes her hounds to attack Sarge b=
ut he throws the dog into the shark-infested waters. The Ambassador awakes =
and complains about the cruelty of the act and Sarge uses his gun to save t=
he dog which comes out of the water shaken. Then Satana rides up on horseba=
ck with a lance and begins to chase the pair along with her men and more do=
gs. Sarge uses his jacket to confuse the horse long to escape momentarily. =
The Ambassador indicates his attache has a bomb inside as they run from the=
 henchmen. They head inside the house on the island where Sarge is at last =
able to call for assistance and gain the upper hand by dropping a rope over=
 Satana. Holding her captive the pair shoot their way out of the house as a=
 helicopter comes to rescue them and carry them to safety along with the ca=
ptured Satana.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" is back to one page this issue offerin=
g up three letters. There is some debate about the continued use of cliffha=
nger endings, some liking them some not. Also Judomaster's "top-knot" as Gi=
ordano prefers to call it is again criticized. The Peacemaker's name is men=
tioned with a plug given to the Pat Boyette series. There is a small boxed =
blurb at the bottom of the page announcing that fans should watch for the "=
All-new Adventures of Blue Beetle". The house ad does not yet show him, but=
 only the other four Action-Heroes.

This is another really good issue. Tiger gets the bulk of the attention, th=
ough it is Judomaster who saves the day in the end. Tiger really comes acro=
ss as very capable and confident even cocky in this story. He and Judomaste=
r are a team of course similar to Captain America and Bucky in many respect=
s. I have little doubt that the Timely team inspired the Charlton pairing. =
There is small evidence in this issue that Tiger is seen as a little boy an=
ymore by Judomaster. This issue and the previous one were my first two Judo=
master issues, and among the very first Charlton books I ever read. They th=
en have a special place in my memory, but I'm happy to see that it's not on=
ly my nostalgia for these that make me remember them so fondly. These are r=
eally good comic book stories.

This issue was reprinted in the late 70's under the Modern imprint.

More to come.

Rip Off


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Wow! That Frank McLaughlin wouldn't remember Judomaster's costume is amazin=
g to me. He must have drawn it hundreds of times. Great story! Thanks for s=
haring that bit of insider info. I would really like to meet McLaughlin som=
e time and thank him for Judomaster. It's a great great book.=20


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Judomaster #95 is dated June 1967. The credits list Frank McLaughlin as the=
 scripter, artist, and letterer.

This story almost seems to have two titles. Above a splash-page image of Ju=
domaster being ensnared by The Acrobat is "Judomaster Meets The Acrobat" an=
d below the image "The Plot to Destroy Judomaster". Both titles work well. =
The action begins in Japan where in a tournament among Japan's mightiest wa=
rriors is underway under the eyes of the Japanese leadership. Among the man=
y warriors are Mountain Storm and The Cat. But despite The Commander's sugg=
estion that Mountain Storm is the mightiest, his Excellency does not agree.=
 Then suddenly Nazi troops appear and The Smiling Skull enters the fray. So=
 all of Judomaster's past enemies vie for the chance to attack him again. T=
hen at the last moment another contestant appears, a small man who says he =
is a circus performer. He is permitted to join the fight which has been red=
uced to the three previously named and he defeats them all with superior ac=
robatic skills. Then he demonstrates a wire-gun that attaches to distant su=
rfaces and gives him a line which he is quite able to walk across and more.=
 Cut to the island where Judomaster and Tiger and Bushiri's warriors are he=
adquartered. A Japanese sub appears and a dark figure disembarks and heads =
into the jungle. The figure invades the group including Judomaster, Tiger, =
Bushiri, and Suzi and offers up a challenge. He now wears a distinctive yel=
low costume and mask. Judomaster charges off to answer the challenge and a =
lengthy battle between the two begins. After many moves and countermoves Ju=
domaster begins to gain a small advantage, but the Acrobat then uses his wi=
re-gun to entangle Judomaster and defeats him. Then he heads out to sea and=
 the submarine and escapes. Aboard the sub the Captain remarks that Judomas=
ter will be most surprised to learn that Suzi, his love is in fact a spy fo=
r the Japanese. The stage is set for a rematch with The Acrobat.

"The Art of Stealth (Ninjutsu)" is a two-page feature by McLaughlin detaili=
ng the myth and facts of the Ninja and identifying some of their tools.

Sarge Steel returns for Part I of File 112 "Case of the Village Moneyman". =
The script is by Steve Skeates, the art by Dick Giordano, and the lettering=
 is by A. Machine. The story begins with Sarge on the ground having been at=
tacked by a couple of thugs, but then he gets up and uses his steel fist to=
 repel his attackers. The thugs did drop a name though, "Eric Summins" a na=
me of a counterfeiter that Steel is familiar with. When he gets this "pad" =
Sarge finds a beautiful young girl inside who turns out to be the Bebe Summ=
ins the daughter of the aforementioned criminal. Her dad has disappeared an=
d she is being followed. Sarge becomes aware that someone else is in his ap=
artment then a man attacks from the bedroom. Sarge defeats him and then dro=
ps Bebe off at the apartment of his secretary Bessie. He then begins the se=
arch for Summins checking out leads and various bars and dives. The next da=
y he arrives in the office and Bessie is there saying Bebe slept in. Two CI=
A men show up and we learn that Sarge no longer works for the Agency full t=
ime. They tell him about new counterfeit bills that are surfacing and all a=
gree that it is the work of Summins. When Sarge returns to his apartment he=
 finds a note from Bebe saying "bugged out" and she will meet him at the Si=
lver Spoon in the Village that evening. But Sarge finds evidence of a strug=
gle and suspects foul play. What he doesn't seem to realize is that someone=
 is pointing a gun at him through the window as the story comes to a close.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up two letters this time, but l=
engthy ones. Tiger is seen as something of a problem by both writers and on=
e brings up something Giordano has said in previous letter columns about no=
t needing sidekicks. The sidekick dilemma is then discussed a bit and havin=
g someone for Judomaster to talk to solved several dramatic problems for th=
e writers. Also there is an indication that the short martial arts pieces b=
y McLaughlin will be phased out to make for longer stories.

And that wraps another issue of Judomaster. One really gets the sense of a =
rogues gallery in this issue with all of The Crimson Crusher's enemies on h=
and. I assume The Acrobat is set up to be Judomaster's opposite number, a c=
ommon enough idea in these superhero tales. There does seem to be a larger =
scheme in play though, as the Acrobat's trip to the island didn't mean much=
 save to antagonize Judomaster. I did like that the Japanese are concerned =
with the public relations problems the defeats by Judomaster have caused. A=
s a practical matter a single man is of little consequence in a war of this=
 scale, but a colorful hero succeeding against such great odds does make th=
e whole appear feckless and weak. Nice touch on McLaughlin's part to add th=
is element front and center.

More to come

Rip Off


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I've added some scans of most of the artwork from the CPL Gang's Charlton P=
ortfolio to the Files Section. There's some really great stuff there such a=
s Sarge Steel by Giordano, Judomaster by McLaughlin, and Thunderbolt by PAM=
. Also several illustrations of various characters including E-Man by Stato=
n. There's a couple of Byrne images, a Boyette page with Peacemaker, and a =
really lovely Gorgo page by Cockrum. And a bit more.=20

Enjoy!


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Rip,
That bomb about Suzi was pretty big, too.=C2=A0 Did anyone see that coming?
Thanks,
Darci




________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:28:23 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #8

=C2=A0=20
Judomaster #95 is dated June 1967. The credits list Frank McLaughlin as the=
 scripter, artist, and letterer.

This story almost seems to have two titles. Above a splash-page image of Ju=
domaster being ensnared by The Acrobat is "Judomaster Meets The Acrobat" an=
d below the image "The Plot to Destroy Judomaster". Both titles work well. =
The action begins in Japan where in a tournament among Japan's mightiest wa=
rriors is underway under the eyes of the Japanese leadership. Among the man=
y warriors are Mountain Storm and The Cat. But despite The Commander's sugg=
estion that Mountain Storm is the mightiest, his Excellency does not agree.=
 Then suddenly Nazi troops appear and The Smiling Skull enters the fray. So=
 all of Judomaster's past enemies vie for the chance to attack him again. T=
hen at the last moment another contestant appears, a small man who says he =
is a circus performer. He is permitted to join the fight which has been red=
uced to the three previously named and he defeats them all with superior ac=
robatic skills. Then he demonstrates a wire-gun that attaches to
 distant surfaces and gives him a line which he is quite able to walk acros=
s and more. Cut to the island where Judomaster and Tiger and Bushiri's warr=
iors are headquartered. A Japanese sub appears and a dark figure disembarks=
 and heads into the jungle. The figure invades the group including Judomast=
er, Tiger, Bushiri, and Suzi and offers up a challenge. He now wears a dist=
inctive yellow costume and mask. Judomaster charges off to answer the chall=
enge and a lengthy battle between the two begins. After many moves and coun=
termoves Judomaster begins to gain a small advantage, but the Acrobat then =
uses his wire-gun to entangle Judomaster and defeats him. Then he heads out=
 to sea and the submarine and escapes. Aboard the sub the Captain remarks t=
hat Judomaster will be most surprised to learn that Suzi, his love is in fa=
ct a spy for the Japanese. The stage is set for a rematch with The Acrobat.

"The Art of Stealth (Ninjutsu)" is a two-page feature by McLaughlin detaili=
ng the myth and facts of the Ninja and identifying some of their tools.

Sarge Steel returns for Part I of File 112 "Case of the Village Moneyman". =
The script is by Steve Skeates, the art by Dick Giordano, and the lettering=
 is by A. Machine. The story begins with Sarge on the ground having been at=
tacked by a couple of thugs, but then he gets up and uses his steel fist to=
 repel his attackers. The thugs did drop a name though, "Eric Summins" a na=
me of a counterfeiter that Steel is familiar with. When he gets this "pad" =
Sarge finds a beautiful young girl inside who turns out to be the Bebe Summ=
ins the daughter of the aforementioned criminal. Her dad has disappeared an=
d she is being followed. Sarge becomes aware that someone else is in his ap=
artment then a man attacks from the bedroom. Sarge defeats him and then dro=
ps Bebe off at the apartment of his secretary Bessie. He then begins the se=
arch for Summins checking out leads and various bars and dives. The next da=
y he arrives in the office and Bessie is there saying Bebe slept in.
 Two CIA men show up and we learn that Sarge no longer works for the Agency=
 full time. They tell him about new counterfeit bills that are surfacing an=
d all agree that it is the work of Summins. When Sarge returns to his apart=
ment he finds a note from Bebe saying "bugged out" and she will meet him at=
 the Silver Spoon in the Village that evening. But Sarge finds evidence of =
a struggle and suspects foul play. What he doesn't seem to realize is that =
someone is pointing a gun at him through the window as the story comes to a=
 close.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up two letters this time, but l=
engthy ones. Tiger is seen as something of a problem by both writers and on=
e brings up something Giordano has said in previous letter columns about no=
t needing sidekicks. The sidekick dilemma is then discussed a bit and havin=
g someone for Judomaster to talk to solved several dramatic problems for th=
e writers. Also there is an indication that the short martial arts pieces b=
y McLaughlin will be phased out to make for longer stories.

And that wraps another issue of Judomaster. One really gets the sense of a =
rogues gallery in this issue with all of The Crimson Crusher's enemies on h=
and. I assume The Acrobat is set up to be Judomaster's opposite number, a c=
ommon enough idea in these superhero tales. There does seem to be a larger =
scheme in play though, as the Acrobat's trip to the island didn't mean much=
 save to antagonize Judomaster. I did like that the Japanese are concerned =
with the public relations problems the defeats by Judomaster have caused. A=
s a practical matter a single man is of little consequence in a war of this=
 scale, but a colorful hero succeeding against such great odds does make th=
e whole appear feckless and weak. Nice touch on McLaughlin's part to add th=
is element front and center.

More to come

Rip Off





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Thanks, Rip.=C2=A0 Who would win in a fight between Rip Torn and Rip Jagger=
?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Portfolio Files!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:14 AM


=C2=A0=20



I've added some scans of most of the artwork from the CPL Gang's Charlton P=
ortfolio to the Files Section. There's some really great stuff there such a=
s Sarge Steel by Giordano, Judomaster by McLaughlin, and Thunderbolt by PAM=
. Also several illustrations of various characters including E-Man by Stato=
n. There's a couple of Byrne images, a Boyette page with Peacemaker, and a =
really lovely Gorgo page by Cockrum. And a bit more.=20

Enjoy!









=20=20=20=20=20=20

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It came as a surprise to me and I've read these before. It's been a long ti=
me though.=20

It will come clear with the next installment though.


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>
> Rip,
> That bomb about Suzi was pretty big, too.=C2=A0 Did anyone see that comin=
g?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:28:23 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Judomaster Reports #8
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> Judomaster #95 is dated June 1967. The credits list Frank McLaughlin as t=
he scripter, artist, and letterer.
>=20
> This story almost seems to have two titles. Above a splash-page image of =
Judomaster being ensnared by The Acrobat is "Judomaster Meets The Acrobat" =
and below the image "The Plot to Destroy Judomaster". Both titles work well=
. The action begins in Japan where in a tournament among Japan's mightiest =
warriors is underway under the eyes of the Japanese leadership. Among the m=
any warriors are Mountain Storm and The Cat. But despite The Commander's su=
ggestion that Mountain Storm is the mightiest, his Excellency does not agre=
e. Then suddenly Nazi troops appear and The Smiling Skull enters the fray. =
So all of Judomaster's past enemies vie for the chance to attack him again.=
 Then at the last moment another contestant appears, a small man who says h=
e is a circus performer. He is permitted to join the fight which has been r=
educed to the three previously named and he defeats them all with superior =
acrobatic skills. Then he demonstrates a wire-gun that attaches to
>  distant surfaces and gives him a line which he is quite able to walk acr=
oss and more. Cut to the island where Judomaster and Tiger and Bushiri's wa=
rriors are headquartered. A Japanese sub appears and a dark figure disembar=
ks and heads into the jungle. The figure invades the group including Judoma=
ster, Tiger, Bushiri, and Suzi and offers up a challenge. He now wears a di=
stinctive yellow costume and mask. Judomaster charges off to answer the cha=
llenge and a lengthy battle between the two begins. After many moves and co=
untermoves Judomaster begins to gain a small advantage, but the Acrobat the=
n uses his wire-gun to entangle Judomaster and defeats him. Then he heads o=
ut to sea and the submarine and escapes. Aboard the sub the Captain remarks=
 that Judomaster will be most surprised to learn that Suzi, his love is in =
fact a spy for the Japanese. The stage is set for a rematch with The Acroba=
t.
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> "The Art of Stealth (Ninjutsu)" is a two-page feature by McLaughlin detai=
ling the myth and facts of the Ninja and identifying some of their tools.
>=20
> Sarge Steel returns for Part I of File 112 "Case of the Village Moneyman"=
. The script is by Steve Skeates, the art by Dick Giordano, and the letteri=
ng is by A. Machine. The story begins with Sarge on the ground having been =
attacked by a couple of thugs, but then he gets up and uses his steel fist =
to repel his attackers. The thugs did drop a name though, "Eric Summins" a =
name of a counterfeiter that Steel is familiar with. When he gets this "pad=
" Sarge finds a beautiful young girl inside who turns out to be the Bebe Su=
mmins the daughter of the aforementioned criminal. Her dad has disappeared =
and she is being followed. Sarge becomes aware that someone else is in his =
apartment then a man attacks from the bedroom. Sarge defeats him and then d=
rops Bebe off at the apartment of his secretary Bessie. He then begins the =
search for Summins checking out leads and various bars and dives. The next =
day he arrives in the office and Bessie is there saying Bebe slept in.
>  Two CIA men show up and we learn that Sarge no longer works for the Agen=
cy full time. They tell him about new counterfeit bills that are surfacing =
and all agree that it is the work of Summins. When Sarge returns to his apa=
rtment he finds a note from Bebe saying "bugged out" and she will meet him =
at the Silver Spoon in the Village that evening. But Sarge finds evidence o=
f a struggle and suspects foul play. What he doesn't seem to realize is tha=
t someone is pointing a gun at him through the window as the story comes to=
 a close.
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> "Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up two letters this time, but=
 lengthy ones. Tiger is seen as something of a problem by both writers and =
one brings up something Giordano has said in previous letter columns about =
not needing sidekicks. The sidekick dilemma is then discussed a bit and hav=
ing someone for Judomaster to talk to solved several dramatic problems for =
the writers. Also there is an indication that the short martial arts pieces=
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> And that wraps another issue of Judomaster. One really gets the sense of =
a rogues gallery in this issue with all of The Crimson Crusher's enemies on=
 hand. I assume The Acrobat is set up to be Judomaster's opposite number, a=
 common enough idea in these superhero tales. There does seem to be a large=
r scheme in play though, as the Acrobat's trip to the island didn't mean mu=
ch save to antagonize Judomaster. I did like that the Japanese are concerne=
d with the public relations problems the defeats by Judomaster have caused.=
 As a practical matter a single man is of little consequence in a war of th=
is scale, but a colorful hero succeeding against such great odds does make =
the whole appear feckless and weak. Nice touch on McLaughlin's part to add =
this element front and center.
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Rip Taylor likely could take them both out. Or maybe not.=20=20

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> Thanks, Rip.=C2=A0 Who would win in a fight between Rip Torn and Rip Jagg=
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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Portfolio Files!
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> I've added some scans of most of the artwork from the CPL Gang's Charlton=
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AM. Also several illustrations of various characters including E-Man by Sta=
ton. There's a couple of Byrne images, a Boyette page with Peacemaker, and =
a really lovely Gorgo page by Cockrum. And a bit more.=20
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Actually,
=C2=A0
Pete Morisi did not sell his interests in Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt to DC. =
That is completely false.
=C2=A0
He owned the rights when DC published the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt series; =
DC figured even though Morisi owned the rights, that he couldn't afford to =
challenge DC, backed by Warner Brothers, in court. And regrettably, they we=
re right. After the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt DC series failed, they told Mo=
risi he could have the rights. Ironic, because they were his all along. Thi=
s is an example of DC Comics as THUGS. This has all been covered in publish=
ed interviews with Pete Morisi, prior to his death.
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:


From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Judomaster Reports #3
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:51 PM


=C2=A0=20



Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 20 =
pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, afte=
r he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never use=
d any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cannon=
 series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlton =
Spotlight #4.

I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain Ato=
m, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in work=
ing with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare except=
ions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.

=3DMike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Darci <darci386@.. .> wrote:
>
> John,
> It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the charac=
ters you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C3=82=C2=A0 I suppose tha=
t's mostly due to Dick Giordano.=C3=82=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton t=
alent he brought with him, I'd have thought these characters would have pro=
spered.=C3=82=C2=A0 It sure didn't turn out that way.=C3=82=C2=A0 Did any o=
f the Charlton alumni take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> Thanks,
> Darci









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Judomaster #96 is dated August 1967. This issue again bears only the single=
 credit for Frank McLaughlin so I assume he's the one doing the scripting, =
art, and lettering as in previous issues.

The story titled "The Final Phase of the Plot to Destroy Judomaster" picks =
up right where the previous issue left off with The Acrobat getting away in=
 a Japanese submarine while Judomaster and the Acrobat exchange threats. Bu=
shiri and Judomaster talk and they agree that the Acrobat got access to the=
 island too easily and that there must be a spy among them. Bushiri mention=
s a new man to the island, a fisherman who washed up on the beach some week=
s before. They've been keeping an eye on him, but he might be the spy. Judo=
master then follows this new man and quickly finds him using a hidden radio=
 to call his Japanese masters. But the spy reveals that his information is =
from Suzikawa, Rip Jagger's love, which drives Judomaster into a rage and h=
e proceeds to beat up the spy. Then after a thorough drubbing the spy repea=
ts his claim that Suzi is the spy. Judomaster confronts Suzi and she confir=
ms that she is the traitor bit claims she had no choice but assist. The sce=
ne shifts to the sub where the Acrobat gets his orders to return to the bea=
ch and continue his battle with Judomaster. Suzi tells Judomaster that the =
Japanese have her brother captive and that the information she's been givin=
g them is useless. Judomaster realizes that what they want is him, so he he=
ads off to face the Acrobat and engages the raft before it lands on the bea=
ch, using a specific karate blow to sink the raft. Then Judomaster and the =
Acrobat continue their battle in the ocean each trying to gain the upper ha=
nd. Meanwhile the others who came across with the Acrobat are met by Bushir=
i and his men and soundly defeated. Then Judomaster and the Acrobat come on=
to the beach where the Acrobat attempts to use his wire-gun again, but prep=
ared for the weapon Judomaster drags the Acrobat to him and knocks him down=
 for the count. Tearing off his mask Judomaster discovers that the Acrobat =
is in fact Suzikawa's brother and that his kidnapping was a ruse. He declar=
es his loyalty to Japan and is hauled away while Judomaster takes Suzi in h=
is arms to comfort her.

Sarge Steel returns in Part II of File 112 "Case of the Village Moneyman" w=
ritten by Steve Skeates, drawn by Dick Giordano with lettering by A.Machine=
. The installment begins with Sarge dodging a gunshot from the window of Be=
be Summin's apartment and returning fire killing the gunman. Steel finds a =
typed note from Bebe asking him to meet her at the Cafe Long Spoon. Sarge p=
laying a hunch goes to the newspaper morgue and does some research before m=
eeting Bebe at the cafe. He finds her and a brief conversation in which she=
 tries to get him to stop looking for her dad he says he won't give up the =
search prompting an attack which he fends off but then guns convince Sarge =
to follow the men to a a printshop where the mastermind of the operation is=
 waiting. The villain is a guy named Jackson who Steel is familiar with and=
 Sarge reveals that Bebe's dad is in fact already dead, which Jackson confi=
rms. Bebe runs from the building in tears while Sarge beats down the thugs =
with his steel hand. Apparently making Bebe think her dad was alive was an =
attempt to create confusion among the federal authorities while the counter=
feiting was underway. Sarge comforts Bebe as the story closes.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" is a two-page offering with a eight le=
tters. This is a lively feature this time. Much is made comparing Charlton'=
s heroes to Marvel's heroes. Judomaster's top-knot comes in for criticism a=
gain as does Tiger. Sarge Steel's back-up is criticized but Giordano respon=
ds that 2nd-class mail regulations require a back-up feature in the book. T=
he Smiling Skull is compared to The Red Skull, but Giordano indicates that =
when the Smiling Skull was created in Sarge Steel #3 that he didn't know an=
ything about the Red Skull. And finally there is the announcement of the ar=
rival of "The Big Red C", Charlton's own distinctive corner design which gr=
aces this very issue.

All in all a very solid issue of entertainment. The character development r=
eaches a high with the revelation that Suzi's brother is now set up as Judo=
master's arch-enemy. It's certainly something that would come into play lat=
er if the series had run longer. Tiger has very little to do in these issue=
s and it's evident that he's being put on a back burner a bit, perhaps in r=
esponse to letters, but more likely simply a lack of space and lots of char=
acters to use. The appearance of the Big Red C along with the banner at the=
 top of the cover with Judomaster's head and symbol really gives this comic=
 a distinctive look that will really pop on a spinner rack.

This issue was reprinted in the late 70's under the Modern imprint.

More to come.=20

Rip Off


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I thought he owned the rights when DC published the limited series, but tha=
t before then, when the Action-Heroes first came over from Charlton that T-=
Bolt had been included. But between that time and before the limited that M=
orisi had reclaimed his rights to the character, or maybe simply had his ri=
ghts recognized.=20

It's always so confusing with Charlton ain't it.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Actually,
> =C2=A0
> Pete Morisi did not sell his interests in Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt to DC=
. That is completely false.
> =C2=A0
> He owned the rights when DC published the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt series=
; DC figured even though Morisi owned the rights, that he couldn't afford t=
o challenge DC, backed by Warner Brothers, in court. And regrettably, they =
were right. After the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt DC series failed, they told =
Morisi he could have the rights. Ironic, because they were his all along. T=
his is an example of DC Comics as THUGS. This has all been covered in publi=
shed interviews with Pete Morisi, prior to his death.
> =C2=A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Michael <charspot01@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Judomaster Reports #3
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:51 PM
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 2=
0 pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, af=
ter he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never u=
sed any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cann=
on series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlto=
n Spotlight #4.
>=20
> I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain A=
tom, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in wo=
rking with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare exce=
ptions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.
>=20
> =3DMike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Darci <darci386@ .> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the char=
acters you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C3=82=C2=A0 I suppose t=
hat's mostly due to Dick Giordano.=C3=82=C2=A0 With all the former-Charlton=
 talent he brought with him, I'd have thought these characters would have p=
rospered.=C3=82=C2=A0 It sure didn't turn out that way.=C3=82=C2=A0 Did any=
 of the Charlton alumni take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> > Thanks,
> > Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>       __________________________________________________________________
> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!=20
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<After the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt DC series failed, they told Morisi he c=
ould have the rights. Ironic, because they were his all along.>
=C2=A0
Fortunately, this is one time that DCs mis-handling of a character led to s=
omething good.=C2=A0 Too, bad though, that T-Bolt isn't around any longer.=
=C2=A0=20

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter Canno=
n: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:53 AM


=C2=A0=20



I thought he owned the rights when DC published the limited series, but tha=
t before then, when the Action-Heroes first came over from Charlton that T-=
Bolt had been included. But between that time and before the limited that M=
orisi had reclaimed his rights to the character, or maybe simply had his ri=
ghts recognized.=20

It's always so confusing with Charlton ain't it.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ...>=
 wrote:
>
> Actually,
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> Pete Morisi did not sell his interests in Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt to DC=
. That is completely false.
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> He owned the rights when DC published the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt series=
; DC figured even though Morisi owned the rights, that he couldn't afford t=
o challenge DC, backed by Warner Brothers, in court. And regrettably, they =
were right. After the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt DC series failed, they told =
Morisi he could have the rights. Ironic, because they were his all along. T=
his is an example of DC Comics as THUGS. This has all been covered in publi=
shed interviews with Pete Morisi, prior to his death.
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Michael <charspot01@ ...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@ ...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Judomaster Reports #3
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:51 PM
>=20
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> =C3=82=C2=A0=20
>=20
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> Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 2=
0 pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, af=
ter he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never u=
sed any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cann=
on series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlto=
n Spotlight #4.
>=20
> I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain A=
tom, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in wo=
rking with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare exce=
ptions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Darci <darci386@ .> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the char=
acters you mentioned ended up in DC's hands (IIRC).=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=
=A0 I suppose that's mostly due to Dick Giordano.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=
=A0 With all the former-Charlton talent he brought with him, I'd have thoug=
ht these characters would have prospered.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=A0 It sur=
e didn't turn out that way.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=A0 Did any of the Charl=
ton alumni take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> > Thanks,
> > Darci
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Nope.
It's all in the Pete Morisi interview, published within the last couple of =
years.
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Best,
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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter Canno=
n: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 4:53 AM


=C2=A0=20



I thought he owned the rights when DC published the limited series, but tha=
t before then, when the Action-Heroes first came over from Charlton that T-=
Bolt had been included. But between that time and before the limited that M=
orisi had reclaimed his rights to the character, or maybe simply had his ri=
ghts recognized.=20

It's always so confusing with Charlton ain't it.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ...>=
 wrote:
>
> Actually,
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> Pete Morisi did not sell his interests in Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt to DC=
. That is completely false.
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> He owned the rights when DC published the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt series=
; DC figured even though Morisi owned the rights, that he couldn't afford t=
o challenge DC, backed by Warner Brothers, in court. And regrettably, they =
were right. After the Peter Cannon Thunderbolt DC series failed, they told =
Morisi he could have the rights. Ironic, because they were his all along. T=
his is an example of DC Comics as THUGS. This has all been covered in publi=
shed interviews with Pete Morisi, prior to his death.
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Michael <charspot01@ ...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@ ...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Judomaster Reports #3
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:51 PM
>=20
>=20
> =C3=82=C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Pete Morisi wrote and drew a full-length T-Bolt origin retell plus some 2=
0 pages' worth of two-page continuity for the aborted DC weekly project, af=
ter he sold the T-Bolt rights to DC in the 1980s. Unfortunately, DC never u=
sed any of this new work, and he had no creative input at all in Peter Cann=
on series DC did in the early 90s. This is all covered in detail in Charlto=
n Spotlight #4.
>=20
> I've heard that Steve Ditko was offered a shot at the Question, Captain A=
tom, and/or Blue Beetle at DC in the '80s but that he had no interest in wo=
rking with the writers who would be handling the characters. With rare exce=
ptions, Ditko has never revisited his old work.
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Darci <darci386@ .> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > It's interesting that, with the exception of Peter Cannon, all the char=
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=A0 I suppose that's mostly due to Dick Giordano.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=
=A0 With all the former-Charlton talent he brought with him, I'd have thoug=
ht these characters would have prospered.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=A0 It sur=
e didn't turn out that way.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=C2=A0 Did any of the Charl=
ton alumni take another turn at their old characters under DC?
> > Thanks,
> > Darci
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Judomaster #97 is dated October 1967. Story and art are credited to Frank M=
cLaughlin.

The lead story is titled "This One's For Pop!" and begins with Rip Jagger a=
nd Tiger heading back to the U.S. and Rip returning to his college alma mat=
er an ivy league school named Bridgeport. Rip takes Tiger into the gym area=
 where he meets up with his old boxing coach Pop McKeon. Soon after a forme=
r classmate and now professional boxer Rocky Vars shows up. Rip notices tha=
t Pop seems agitated at Rocky's arrival as he and Tiger leave. They later a=
ttend a series of matches between Bridgeport and New Haven and it comes dow=
n to the final bout featuring Pop's new star Johnny. But after doing very w=
ell in the match, Johnny takes a dive to lose the match. Rip goes to see Po=
p about it but he denies it, and so does Johnny when Rip confronts him. Rip=
 sends Tiger to follow Pop then heads to Pop's home where he meets Joanne M=
cKeon, Pop's daughter who has grown up since Rip left. She leaves to go on =
a date with Rocky Vars. Then Tiger shows up and reports what he has seen fo=
llowing Pop, specifically a meeting with a shadowed figure which confirms t=
hat something illicit is going on. Pop shows up at his house and Rip confro=
nts him again and he finally admits that Rocky Vars has been behind the sch=
eme and has threatened Joanne's life. Rip then becomes Judomaster and confr=
onts Rocky and the two put on gloves and have a boxing bout, which goes wel=
l enough for Judomaster until Rocky kicks him then Judomater beings to use =
his other skills and finally knocks out Rocky. Then one of Rocky's henchmen=
 pulls a gun, but Tiger and Johnny appear and soon enough the gang is subdu=
ed. Johnny then admits he loves Joanne and the story ends with the lovers k=
issing and Judomaster and Tiger slipping away out the door.

Sarge Steel returns in a story written by Steve Skeates, drawn by Dick Gior=
dano and again with A.Machine on letters. The story is title "Case of the W=
idow's Revenge" and it is File 114. The story begins with a car trying to r=
un down Sarge at a local newsstand but missing and demolishing the newsstan=
d killing the proprietor a blind man we only see in profile named Old Charl=
ie. Sarge then runs down an alley when he hears footsteps and is soon shot =
at, but he returns fire and kills his attacker. Returning to his car he fin=
ds a beautiful woman wrapped in a fur stole waiting for him. She claims to =
be the niece of Donald Reynolds a man Sarge sent to prison and who died the=
re. His wife is the one behind the attempts on Sarge's life along with his =
old partner a man named Ralph Gonner. Sarge then goes to Gonner's house and=
 confronts him becomes convinced he's not involved. Returning home he finds=
 a figure in the dark waiting for him, but quickly turning on the lights bl=
inds the person and after a quick exchange of gunfire he finds the girl who=
 turns to be the daughter of Reynolds and not his niece and she is the one =
behind the plot. She dies in Sarge's arms and he reminds us all what a rott=
en world it is.

"Flips and Counters with Judomaster" offers up four letters. There is some =
discussion of Charlton's cover design specifically the image of Judomater b=
reaking a board which has been an emblem since early in the series. Giordan=
o say he's phasing that out with the next issue. Also of some question are =
the Japanese characters which are part of the decoration on the top banner =
of the comic alongside Judomaster's head. Giordano says he's been told by M=
cLaughlin they have something to do with Judo, but he's not sure what exact=
ly. Giordano also speaks to a the question of credits and says flat out tha=
t Frank McLaughlin has "written and drawn every issue of JM to date". This =
seems consistent save for the debut which lists Joe Gill as the scripter. D=
oubtless McLaughlin plotted that issue also.

This is a neat little issue. The story gets Judomaster stateside again and =
if the series had continued, I'm curious how much of his past life we would=
've eventually have seen. There is the neat notion here that his training a=
s a boxer helped him master his judo skills more quickly perhaps. Because h=
e is the scripter of the debut Joe Gill is almost always mentioned as the c=
o-creator of Judomaster. But it seems pretty obvious that Frank McLaughlin =
is the guy behind the character through and through. Gill as great as he wa=
s, seems to get a bit of glory he doesn't quite deserved in this instance.

Below and in an attached post are some original art images from this story.=
 These are the last five pages of the tale.

One more to come.=20

Rip Off


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I was reviewing the issue of Charlton Spotlight featuring Pete Morisi and t=
he sense I get from reading through it is that there must've been some reco=
gnition on DC's part that Morisi held the rights to T-Bolt before his work =
on an aborted weekly. Those 18 pages never saw print, but the sale of those=
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away his rights to them. It's obviously bogus, even in the world of work-fo=
r-hire. There was a struggle over rights that eventually was compromised al=
lowing for the T-Bolt DC series which failed and DC then "gave" Morisi back=
 the rights (which I'm assuming he never admitted losing). So they are uneq=
uivocally with his estate now.=20

That's how I read it anyways. Does that sound close to what you know?


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Judomaster #98 is dated December 1967. The single credit is the name "McLau=
ghlin" hidden along a rockface on the splash page which features Judomaster=
 holding a flying reptile at bay with a spear while Suzi turns in fear. It'=
s another angle on the cover image by Frank McLaughlin who did this and all=
 the Judomaster covers as far as I can tell.

"The Isle of Dragons" begins with Rip Jagger being called into the office o=
f General Hawkins where he learns that the Japanese are using some remote a=
nd possibly uncharted islands as potential bases. On one island named Tabuk=
i which the natives call "The Isle of Dragons". A reconassaince photo shows=
 a skeptical Rip that indeed there do seem to be giant reptiles on the isla=
nd. Judomaster, Tiger, Bushiri, Suzikawa, and other warriors go by submarin=
e to the island and attempt to get on land. They are almost immediately way=
laid by natives who tell that the Japanese are indeed constructing a base a=
nd they are making use of the ancient dragons too. The natives guide the gr=
oup to an ancient city and then leave. Judomaster's team is then assaulted =
by a giant flying reptile and all seek shelter in a cave when a second dino=
saur resembling a Tyrannosaurus Rex appears. But it turns out that in the m=
ad dash for safety that Tiger and Suzi are missing. Judomaster goes out to =
find them. He goes to the city and finds a costumed figure calling himself =
the "Japanese Sandman" who tells one of his comrades about using his powers=
 to put creatures to sleep to capture both Suzi and Tiger. About that time =
a giant lizard appears and Sandman uses his hypnotic power along with tranq=
uiler bullets the Japanese troops fire to subdue and develop a control of t=
he beast. He then makes ready to ready to make Suzi and Tiger the creatures=
 next meal when it awakes. Having seen enough Judomaster attacks, frees his=
 associates and taking guns they head back to the cave. But the encounter t=
he Tyrannosaur again but use their rifles to put it down. Then they gather =
Bushiri's men and the whole group attack the Japanese troops in the city. J=
udomaster tracks down the Sandman and avoiding his hypnotic powers eventual=
ly defeats the villain. When the Sandman is put out of the way, the monster=
s which have been in his thrall are released and they demolish the city and=
 the Japanese troops are stunned that their tranquilizers no longer are eff=
ective. Using dynamite they brought Judomaster and Tiger blow up the whole =
shebang and escape. The last scene shows them rafting to the submarine and =
Tiger reveals that he had substituted regular ammunition for the special tr=
anquilizers the Japanese used thus making the monsters uncontrollable. That=
 scamp.

Sarge Steel turns up one more time in a story with no credits but clearly d=
rawn by Dick Giordano and scripting attributed at GCD to Steve Skeates. The=
 tale titled "Key West Caper" is File 115. It begins with Sarge coming out =
of the ocean in full scuba gear onto a deserted beach at night. He thinks b=
ack to finding his office ransacked and a note saying that Bessie his secre=
tary had been kidnapped and taken to a location off the Florida Keys. He th=
en gets transportation and gets to the Keys as quickly as he can and arrive=
d at that spot. He is attacked by a guard but subdues him and then recogniz=
es the machine gun the thug used. There is another shot and Sarge kills the=
 sniper but others get the drop on him and take him to a house where Bessie=
 is unconscious on a table. The villains turn out to be Eric Rinn and Roja =
a man and woman team of baddies who had battled Sarge a few times in his ow=
n book and had run an operation named POW. They gloat that they at last hav=
e Sarge in this power when Bessie awakes and a fight breaks out. Rinn tries=
 to shoot Sarge who shoots him first making his shot go astray and kill Roj=
a. Bessie grabs up a machine gun and after quick tutelage from Sarge levels=
 the other thugs. Sarge then cradles the overwrought woman in his arms as t=
he story closes.

"The Power of the Bow" is the text piece in this issue and talks about the =
impact of the bow and arrow as a weapon in Europe, China and the Americas.

This is the last issue in the Charlton Judomaster run.

But in Captain Atom #89 dated December 1967, Tiger shows up in the Nightsha=
de back-up feature by Steve Skeates and Jim Aparo and in this story set in =
the modern day he is grown up and had trained Eve Eden the Nightshade some =
years before when she was a girl of fourteen.

This issue of Judomater was reprinted in the late 70's under the Modern imp=
rint.

The Judomaster series showed a remarkable amount of skill and talent on the=
 part of Frank McLaughlin who went on to become one of the great inkers at =
both Marvel and DC. Dick Giordano who headed up the Sarge Steel back-up fea=
ture of course went over to DC and became a major player in comics for many=
 decades to come. Judomaster disappeared.

Even when DC picked up the Charlton Action-Heroes including Judomaster he w=
as barely used. Captain Atom and Blue Beetle got ongoing series as well as =
stints in the Justice League. The Question had an ongoing of his own for ma=
ny years. The Peacemaker got a limited series. Even Thunderbolt had a run, =
though his rights have reverted to the Morisi estate today. Though DC mucke=
d with the heroes they at least used them. That is all of them save Judomas=
ter. He did make cameos here and there and other Judomasters have shown up =
over the decades, including one who is in the JSA today. Rip Jagger and Tig=
er were the core of the L.A.W. (Living Assault Weapons)limited series by Bo=
b Layton and Dick Giordano along with other Charlton heroes. But likely bec=
ause of his WWII setting Judomaster never got the push the others did. It's=
 too bad. Rip Jagger is a dandy character.

Judomaster battled against the Japanese but alongside other Asians so that =
the racism that clouded many WWII efforts was undermined. He wore the color=
s of the Japanese for goshsakes, an image that has always been a bit confus=
ing. But in the end Rip Jagger, the Judomaster was truly an action-hero, ma=
n fighting in the last "good war".

No more to come. It's been a blast doing this detailed read for one of my a=
ll-time favorite series. I'll have to do another one soon.

Rip Off


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That's pretty much it, Dean, except to add that DC felt that Pete Morisi, e=
ven though they knew Morisi owned and held the legal rights to Peter Cannon=
/-Thunderbolt, went ahead and published that series anyway, and wouldn't le=
t him draw it, either. It was a dirty, dirty thing that DC did, publishing =
a character they did not own. When DC bought all the other Charlton charact=
ers from Charlton, they were TOLD that Pete Morisi owned Peter Cannon/-Thun=
derbolt.
=C2=A0
This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer publish=
ed, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=
=20
=C2=A0
The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to '=
serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he ha=
d his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in T=
he Comics Journal.=20
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter Canno=
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=C2=A0=20



I was reviewing the issue of Charlton Spotlight featuring Pete Morisi and t=
he sense I get from reading through it is that there must've been some reco=
gnition on DC's part that Morisi held the rights to T-Bolt before his work =
on an aborted weekly. Those 18 pages never saw print, but the sale of those=
 pages to DC was the basis of the argument they had that Morisi had signed =
away his rights to them. It's obviously bogus, even in the world of work-fo=
r-hire. There was a struggle over rights that eventually was compromised al=
lowing for the T-Bolt DC series which failed and DC then "gave" Morisi back=
 the rights (which I'm assuming he never admitted losing). So they are uneq=
uivocally with his estate now.=20

That's how I read it anyways. Does that sound close to what you know?









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All this Thunderbolt talk has gotten me interested in tackling that series =
next in my reports series. It's been on the list and it may well be time fo=
r a close reading. Stay tuned in February.=20




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Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal right to continue publishing new stories with the characters.  As I recall, I think what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of several distributors which owed the company money, and without that income, Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.

Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters...or maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure.  But while that may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents stories, I suspect no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsuit from DC.

Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Marv Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason to show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize Pete was the actual owner.  So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo in CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the character wasn't theirs to use.

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This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own. 

 

The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in The Comics Journal. 

 

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what's your source to this?
Last I had heard,Singer lost in appeals court.
Was that overturned,and in what court?

Steven Rowe



On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com> wrote:

>
>
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the
> T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal ri=
ght
> to continue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I th=
ink
> what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of
> several distributors which owed the company money, and without that incom=
e,
> Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
>
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters...or
> maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while th=
at
> may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct
> no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsuit
> from DC.
>
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Ma=
rv
> Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason =
to
> show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought
> they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but
> that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize P=
ete
> was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n
> CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er
> wasn't theirs to use.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Latter
>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com <CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
>
> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer
> published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did
> not own.
>
> The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to
> 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he
> had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported =
in
> The Comics Journal.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Steven,
=A0
This was all covered in various issues of The Comics Journal at the time. I=
 recall reading many articles about this.
=A0
Singer lost in court, and no appeals overturned this decision.
=A0
As for Pete Morisi and Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt, Morisi said in an intervi=
ew that DC told him that they were going to publish a P.C/T-Bolt series (wi=
thout Morisi's permission, and WITHOUT his permission), and that, if the se=
ries failed, only then would they give the 'rights' to P.C/-T-Bolt, even th=
ough he owned the character and never, ever gave up the rights to the chara=
cter, and told DC they could NOT publish the character.
=A0
As I said, DC as powerful corporate bully.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil Latter
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt
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Received: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:22 AM


what's your source to this?
Last I had heard,Singer lost in appeals court.
Was that overturned,and in what court?

Steven Rowe



On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com> wrote:

>
>
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the
> T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal ri=
ght
> to continue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I th=
ink
> what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of
> several distributors which owed the company money, and without that incom=
e,
> Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
>
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters...or
> maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while th=
at
> may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct
> no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsuit
> from DC.
>
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Ma=
rv
> Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason =
to
> show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought
> they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but
> that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize P=
ete
> was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n
> CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er
> wasn't theirs to use.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Latter
>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com <CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
>
> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer
> published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did
> not own.
>
> The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to
> 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he
> had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported =
in
> The Comics Journal.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Respectfully meant,
=C2=A0
The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because Singer was soundly=
 defeated in court on that matter.
=C2=A0
Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, likely contrac=
ting to either sell or lease the Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, =
though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did =
with Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt: decide to just publish them irregardless of=
 who owned them. They planned to do it, John Carbonaro, while he was still =
alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agents (too many changes), and while some=
 art was prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in Archive =
Editions.=20
=C2=A0
John Carbonaro has since passed away.
=C2=A0
Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no longe=
r among the living?
=C2=A0
Please note: while I know about the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pet=
e Morisi, I am NOT claiming to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC =
and John Carbonaro. Does anyone?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com> wrote:


From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM


=C2=A0=20



Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the T.H.U.N=
.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal right to c=
ontinue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think wh=
at did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of seve=
ral distributors which owed the company money, and without that income, Sin=
ger couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.

Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters.. .or =
maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while that=
 may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsui=
t from DC.

Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Marv=
 Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason t=
o show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought=
 they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but =
that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize Pet=
e was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er wasn't theirs to use.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Latter=20

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt

This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer publish=
ed, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=
=20

The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to '=
serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he ha=
d his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in T=
he Comics Journal.=20

Best,

Phil Latter

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Respectfully meant,
=C2=A0
The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because David Singer of De=
luxe Comics, who was illegally publishing new comics stories of them, was s=
oundly defeated in court on that matter.
=C2=A0
David Singer was a former friend of John Carbonaro, the then-legal owner of=
 Thunder Agents.
Carbonaro showed Singer, or told David Singer, of his plans to publish new =
Thunder Agents stories, (characters that Carbonaro then legally owned), and=
 David Singer then, shortly thereafter, =C2=A0decided to publish new Thunde=
r Agents comics on his own, despite the fact that Carbonaro, not Singer, ow=
ned them.=20
=C2=A0
That is what started that whole lawsuit from John Carbonaro against David S=
inger and Deluxe Comics.
Where am I getting this info? Right from various issues of The Comics Journ=
al at the time. They painted Singer as a real sleazebag.
=C2=A0
Even David Singer's mother said that what David Singer was doing was wrong.=
=20
=C2=A0
Surely I'm not the only person here who remember reading about all of this =
in numerous issues of The Comics Journal?
=C2=A0
Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, later presumab=
ly (?) contracted to either sell or lease the Thunder Agents to DC. I don't=
 know which, though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents t=
hat they did with Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt: decide to just publish them ir=
regardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, anyway.
=C2=A0
John Carbonaro, while he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agents=
 (too many changes), and while some art was prepared, nothing was published=
 by DC, except reprints in Archive Editions.=20
=C2=A0
John Carbonaro has since passed away.
=C2=A0
Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no longe=
r among the living?
=C2=A0
Please note: while I know about the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pet=
e Morisi, I am NOT claiming to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC =
and John Carbonaro. Does anyone?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

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From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM


=C2=A0=20



Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the T.H.U.N=
.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal right to c=
ontinue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think wh=
at did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of seve=
ral distributors which owed the company money, and without that income, Sin=
ger couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.

Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters.. .or =
maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while that=
 may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsui=
t from DC.

Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Marv=
 Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason t=
o show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought=
 they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but =
that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize Pet=
e was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er wasn't theirs to use.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Latter=20

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt

This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer publish=
ed, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=
=20

The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to '=
serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he ha=
d his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in T=
he Comics Journal.=20

Best,

Phil Latter

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the heirs of Carbonano sold the rights to DC.(per the press release at the =
time)

steven rowe

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>
> Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, later presum=
ably (?) contracted to either sell or lease the Thunder >Agents to DC. I do=
n't know which, though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agent=
s that they did with Peter >Cannon/-Thunderbolt: decide to just publish the=
m irregardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, anyway.
>
> John Carbonaro, while he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agen=
ts (too many changes), and while some art was prepared, nothing was publish=
ed by DC, except reprints in Archive Editions.
>
> John Carbonaro has since passed away.
>
> Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no lon=
ger among the living?

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Phil, you misread what I said.
Someone (Mike?) stated that Singer won in court, and   I asked about when
and what court this was.

steven rowe

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>wrote=
:

>
>
> Steven,
>
> This was all covered in various issues of The Comics Journal at the time.=
 I
> recall reading many articles about this.
>
> Singer lost in court, and no appeals overturned this decision.
>
> As for Pete Morisi and Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt, Morisi said in an
> interview that DC told him that they were going to publish a P.C/T-Bolt
> series (without Morisi's permission, and WITHOUT his permission), and tha=
t,
> if the series failed, only then would they give the 'rights' to P.C/-T-Bo=
lt,
> even though he owned the character and never, ever gave up the rights to =
the
> character, and told DC they could NOT publish the character.
>
> As I said, DC as powerful corporate bully.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> Best,
>
> Phil
>
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, s r <sangorshop@gmail.com <sangorshop%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com <sangorshop%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com <CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:22 AM
>
>
> what's your source to this?
> Last I had heard,Singer lost in appeals court.
> Was that overturned,and in what court?
>
> Steven Rowe
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com<Shiai%40wowway.c=
om>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the
> > T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal
> right
> > to continue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I
> think
> > what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure o=
f
> > several distributors which owed the company money, and without that
> income,
> > Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
> >
> > Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters...=
or
> > maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while
> that
> > may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents stories, I
> suspect
> > no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsu=
it
> > from DC.
> >
> > Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with
> Marv
> > Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reaso=
n
> to
> > show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thoug=
ht
> > they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, b=
ut
> > that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize
> Pete
> > was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo
> in
> > CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the
> character
> > wasn't theirs to use.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Phil Latter
> >
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com=
><CharltonBullseye%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Pet=
er
> > Cannon: Thunderbolt
> >
> > This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer
> > published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they d=
id
> > not own.
> >
> > The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door =
to
> > 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, =
he
> > had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reporte=
d
> in
> > The Comics Journal.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Phil Latter
> >
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Okay.
Sorry, Steven.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Phil

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Phil, you misread what I said.
Someone (Mike?) stated that Singer won in court, and=A0=A0=A0I asked about =
when
and what court this was.

steven rowe

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>wrote=
:

>
>
> Steven,
>
> This was all covered in various issues of The Comics Journal at the time.=
 I
> recall reading many articles about this.
>
> Singer lost in court, and no appeals overturned this decision.
>
> As for Pete Morisi and Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt, Morisi said in an
> interview that DC told him that they were going to publish a P.C/T-Bolt
> series (without Morisi's permission, and WITHOUT his permission), and tha=
t,
> if the series failed, only then would they give the 'rights' to P.C/-T-Bo=
lt,
> even though he owned the character and never, ever gave up the rights to =
the
> character, and told DC they could NOT publish the character.
>
> As I said, DC as powerful corporate bully.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> Best,
>
> Phil
>
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, s r <sangorshop@gmail.com <sangorshop%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com <sangorshop%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com <CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 10:22 AM
>
>
> what's your source to this?
> Last I had heard,Singer lost in appeals court.
> Was that overturned,and in what court?
>
> Steven Rowe
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com<Shiai%40wowway.c=
om>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the
> > T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal
> right
> > to continue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I
> think
> > what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure o=
f
> > several distributors which owed the company money, and without that
> income,
> > Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
> >
> > Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters...=
or
> > maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while
> that
> > may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents stories, I
> suspect
> > no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsu=
it
> > from DC.
> >
> > Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with
> Marv
> > Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reaso=
n
> to
> > show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thoug=
ht
> > they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, b=
ut
> > that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize
> Pete
> > was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo
> in
> > CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the
> character
> > wasn't theirs to use.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Phil Latter
> >
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com<CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com=
><CharltonBullseye%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Pet=
er
> > Cannon: Thunderbolt
> >
> > This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer
> > published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they d=
id
> > not own.
> >
> > The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door =
to
> > 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, =
he
> > had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reporte=
d
> in
> > The Comics Journal.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Phil Latter
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the heirs of Carbonano sold the rights to DC.(per the press release at the
time)

steven rowe


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote=
:

>
>
> Respectfully meant,
>
> The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because Singer was sound=
ly
> defeated in court on that matter.
>
> Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, likely
> contracting to either sell or lease the Thunder Agents to DC. I don't kno=
w
> which, though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that
> they did with Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt: decide to just publish them
> irregardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, John Carbonaro, wh=
ile
> he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agents (too many changes),
> and while some art was prepared, nothing was published by DC, except
> reprints in Archive Editions.
>
> John Carbonaro has since passed away.
>
> Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no
> longer among the living?
>
> Please note: while I know about the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with
> Pete Morisi, I am NOT claiming to know the truth about The Thunder Agents=
,
> DC and John Carbonaro. Does anyone?
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com <Shiai%40wowway.com>> wrote:
>
> From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway.com <Shiai%40wowway.com>>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com <CharltonBullseye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM
>
>
>
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the
> T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal
> right to continue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall=
, I
> think what did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failu=
re
> of several distributors which owed the company money, and without that
> income, Singer couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up
> shop.
>
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters.. .o=
r
> maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while th=
at
> may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I susp=
ect
> no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsuit
> from DC.
>
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Ma=
rv
> Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason =
to
> show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought
> they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but
> that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize P=
ete
> was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n
> CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er
> wasn't theirs to use.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Latter
>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter
> Cannon: Thunderbolt
>
> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer
> published, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did
> not own.
>
> The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to
> 'serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he
> had his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported =
in
> The Comics Journal.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil Latter
>
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Well, as I recall the news stories at the time (probably in COMICS JOURNAL as well as several other publications), Singer won the first trial, which declared the TA to be in the public domain (apparently Tower never took the proper legal steps to assert their ownership after they ceased publishing), and John Carbornero (who was originally Singer's publishing partner) filed an appeal, this time also naming in his suit several distributors.  Looking to avoid the legal fees, the distributors agreed to stop carrying Deluxe Comics (and it was during this same time as well, I believe, that a couple of smaller distributors went out of business, further inhibiting Singer from getting his stuff into stores).  I'm not entirely certain of what happened next, but what is clear is that Deluxe Comics ceased publishing.  Whether or not the appeal ever went to court, I can't say.

Allegedly, David Singer does appear to be a bit of a shady character.  Dave Cockrum told of how Singer published a few issues of his FUTURIANS, but when he closed down shop, not only did he not pay Cockrum all of the money due him, he actually took the art from an unpublished issue of the comic and sold it to another publisher, claiming he owned the full rights to it!  So no, while I liked a lot of the Deluxe TA stories, I'm not the least bit sorry that Singer didn't last in the business if those were indeed his business practices.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:46:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter  Cannon: Thunderbolt



      Steven,

 

This was all covered in various issues of The Comics Journal at the time. I recall reading many articles about this.

 

Singer lost in court, and no appeals overturned this decision.

 

As for Pete Morisi and Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt, Morisi said in an interview that DC told him that they were going to publish a P.C/T-Bolt series (without Morisi's permission, and WITHOUT his permission), and that, if the series failed, only then would they give the 'rights' to P.C/-T-Bolt, even though he owned the character and never, ever gave up the rights to the character, and told DC they could NOT publish the character.

 

As I said, DC as powerful corporate bully.

 

Best,

 

Phil Latter

 

Best,

 

Phil



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I don't know the exact truth about the DC/Carbonaro/THUNDER Agents thing ei=
ther.=C2=A0 However, I do know from correspondence with him just before he =
passed away that there was a large company and a smaller company after him =
to sell them the rights/license the characters.=C2=A0 He did not tell me th=
e names of the companies.

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what is =
the truth?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:19 PM


=C2=A0=20



Respectfully meant,
=C2=A0
The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because Singer was soundly=
 defeated in court on that matter.
=C2=A0
Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, likely contrac=
ting to either sell or lease the Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, =
though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did =
with Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt : decide to just publish them irregardless o=
f who owned them. They planned to do it, John Carbonaro, while he was still=
 alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agents (too many changes), and while som=
e art was prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in Archive=
 Editions.=20
=C2=A0
John Carbonaro has since passed away.
=C2=A0
Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no longe=
r among the living?
=C2=A0
Please note: while I know about the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pet=
e Morisi, I am NOT claiming to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC =
and John Carbonaro. Does anyone?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com> wrote:

From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM

=C2=A0=20

Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the T.H.U.N=
.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal right to c=
ontinue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think wh=
at did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of seve=
ral distributors which owed the company money, and without that income, Sin=
ger couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.

Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters.. .or =
maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while that=
 may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsui=
t from DC.

Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Marv=
 Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason t=
o show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought=
 they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but =
that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize Pet=
e was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er wasn't theirs to use.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Latter=20

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt

This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer publish=
ed, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=
=20

The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to '=
serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he ha=
d his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in T=
he Comics Journal.=20

Best,

Phil Latter

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years ago when dc was planning a new thunder agents series and it was sudde=
nly dropped i was on a thunder agents yahoo group blaming carbonaro without=
 the facts
i find out he was also on that yahoo group and this is what he had said he =
said no to the deal when dc was going to make them more adult kinda like th=
e authority in wildstorm which would radically change wally woods creations




________________________________
From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 8:54:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what=
 is the truth?

=C2=A0=20
I don't know the exact truth about the DC/Carbonaro/ THUNDER Agents thing e=
ither.=C2=A0 However, I do know from correspondence with him just before he=
 passed away that there was a large company and a smaller company after him=
 to sell them the rights/license the characters.=C2=A0 He did not tell me t=
he names of the companies.

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what is =
the truth?
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:19 PM

=C2=A0=20

Respectfully meant,
=C2=A0
The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because Singer was soundly=
 defeated in court on that matter.
=C2=A0
Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John Carbonaro, likely contrac=
ting to either sell or lease the Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, =
though; or even if DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did =
with Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt : decide to just publish them irregardless o=
f who owned them. They planned to do it, John Carbonaro, while he was still=
 alive, balked at DC's redo of the Agents (too many changes), and while som=
e art was prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in Archive=
 Editions.=20
=C2=A0
John Carbonaro has since passed away.
=C2=A0
Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since Carbonaro is no longe=
r among the living?
=C2=A0
Please note: while I know about the Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pet=
e Morisi, I am NOT claiming to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC =
and John Carbonaro. Does anyone?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com> wrote:

From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM

=C2=A0=20

Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally declare the T.H.U.N=
.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public domain, and he had the legal right to c=
ontinue publishing new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think wh=
at did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the failure of seve=
ral distributors which owed the company money, and without that income, Sin=
ger couldn't meet his financial obligations, so he closed up shop.

Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the characters.. .or =
maybe only to their original stories, I'm not entirely sure. But while that=
 may mean someone else could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspe=
ct no one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive) nuisance lawsui=
t from DC.

Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s interview with Marv=
 Wolfman (when he was more or less on the outs with DC, and had no reason t=
o show them any love), in which he said as he understood it, DC had thought=
 they had purchased the rights to the character along with the others, but =
that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC didn't realize Pet=
e was the actual owner. So Wolfman and Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo i=
n CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the charact=
er wasn't theirs to use.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Latter=20

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete Morisi and Peter C=
annon: Thunderbolt

This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics' David Singer publish=
ed, illegally, new stories with the Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=
=20

The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his mother's door to '=
serve' him with the legal papers that he was required to go to court, he ha=
d his mother say he was not home, many times. All of this was reported in T=
he Comics Journal.=20

Best,

Phil Latter

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DC Comics folly.

-Nigel



--- On Tue, 2/2/10, geoff brenneman <geofffl@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: geoff brenneman <geofffl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, wh=
at is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 2:12
> years ago when dc was planning a new
> thunder agents series and it was suddenly dropped i was on a
> thunder agents yahoo group blaming carbonaro without the
> facts
> i find out he was also on that yahoo group and this is what
> he had said he said no to the deal when dc was going to make
> them more adult kinda like the authority in wildstorm which
> would radically change wally woods creations
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 8:54:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro, what is the truth?
>=20
> =A0=20
> I don't know the exact truth about the DC/Carbonaro/
> THUNDER Agents thing either.=A0 However, I do know from
> correspondence with him just before he passed away that
> there was a large company and a smaller company after him to
> sell them the rights/license the characters.=A0 He did not
> tell me the names of the companies.
>=20
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@
> yahoo.ca> wrote:
>=20
> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro, what is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:19 PM
>=20
> =A0=20
>=20
> Respectfully meant,
> =A0
> The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because
> Singer was soundly defeated in court on that matter.
> =A0
> Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John
> Carbonaro, likely contracting to either sell or lease the
> Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, though; or even if
> DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did with
> Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt : decide to just publish them
> irregardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, John
> Carbonaro, while he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of
> the Agents (too many changes), and while some art was
> prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in
> Archive Editions.=20
> =A0
> John Carbonaro has since passed away.
> =A0
> Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since
> Carbonaro is no longer among the living?
> =A0
> Please note: while I know about the Peter
> Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pete Morisi, I am NOT claiming
> to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro. Does anyone?
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> wrote:
>=20
> From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete
> Morisi and Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM
>=20
> =A0=20
>=20
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally
> declare the T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public
> domain, and he had the legal right to continue publishing
> new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think what
> did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the
> failure of several distributors which owed the company
> money, and without that income, Singer couldn't meet his
> financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
>=20
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the
> characters.. .or maybe only to their original stories, I'm
> not entirely sure. But while that may mean someone else
> could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspect no
> one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive)
> nuisance lawsuit from DC.
>=20
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s
> interview with Marv Wolfman (when he was more or less on the
> outs with DC, and had no reason to show them any love), in
> which he said as he understood it, DC had thought they had
> purchased the rights to the character along with the others,
> but that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC
> didn't realize Pete was the actual owner. So Wolfman and
> Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo in CRISIS ON INFINITE
> EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the character
> wasn't theirs to use.
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Latter=20
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> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
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> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics'
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> Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=20
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<Shame the old MLJ heroes never had a guardian like JC to protect them from=
 DC Comics folly.>
=C2=A0
I'll second that.


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From: Mister Cantwell <phabox@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what=
 is the truth?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 6:05 AM


=C2=A0=20



Shame the old MLJ heroes never had a guardian like JC to protect them from =
DC Comics folly.

-Nigel

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, geoff brenneman <geofffl@yahoo. com> wrote:

> From: geoff brenneman <geofffl@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, wh=
at is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 2:12
> years ago when dc was planning a new
> thunder agents series and it was suddenly dropped i was on a
> thunder agents yahoo group blaming carbonaro without the
> facts
> i find out he was also on that yahoo group and this is what
> he had said he said no to the deal when dc was going to make
> them more adult kinda like the authority in wildstorm which
> would radically change wally woods creations
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 8:54:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro, what is the truth?
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> I don't know the exact truth about the DC/Carbonaro/
> THUNDER Agents thing either.=C2=A0 However, I do know from
> correspondence with him just before he passed away that
> there was a large company and a smaller company after him to
> sell them the rights/license the characters.=C2=A0 He did not
> tell me the names of the companies.
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> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@
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>=20
> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro, what is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:19 PM
>=20
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> Respectfully meant,
> =C2=A0
> The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because
> Singer was soundly defeated in court on that matter.
> =C2=A0
> Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John
> Carbonaro, likely contracting to either sell or lease the
> Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, though; or even if
> DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did with
> Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt : decide to just publish them
> irregardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, John
> Carbonaro, while he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of
> the Agents (too many changes), and while some art was
> prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in
> Archive Editions.=20
> =C2=A0
> John Carbonaro has since passed away.
> =C2=A0
> Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since
> Carbonaro is no longer among the living?
> =C2=A0
> Please note: while I know about the Peter
> Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pete Morisi, I am NOT claiming
> to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro. Does anyone?
> =C2=A0
> Best,
> =C2=A0
> Phil Latter
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> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> wrote:
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> From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete
> Morisi and Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally
> declare the T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public
> domain, and he had the legal right to continue publishing
> new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think what
> did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the
> failure of several distributors which owed the company
> money, and without that income, Singer couldn't meet his
> financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
>=20
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the
> characters.. .or maybe only to their original stories, I'm
> not entirely sure. But while that may mean someone else
> could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspect no
> one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive)
> nuisance lawsuit from DC.
>=20
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s
> interview with Marv Wolfman (when he was more or less on the
> outs with DC, and had no reason to show them any love), in
> which he said as he understood it, DC had thought they had
> purchased the rights to the character along with the others,
> but that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC
> didn't realize Pete was the actual owner. So Wolfman and
> Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo in CRISIS ON INFINITE
> EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the character
> wasn't theirs to use.
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Latter=20
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> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete
> Morisi and Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt
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> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics'
> David Singer published, illegally, new stories with the
> Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=20
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> The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his
> mother's door to 'serve' him with the legal papers that he
> was required to go to court, he had his mother say he was
> not home, many times. All of this was reported in The Comics
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What's the most effective way to order this book? Is it still available?=20

I've long wanted this, and I have several of the others but at this point I=
 don't know the best way to get hold of one. Does Robin Snyder still sell t=
hem?

Thanks in advance.

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You know something? I actually rather like what DC is doing with Mighty Cru=
saders members The Web, The Hangman this go-round.=C2=A0The Shield --- not =
so much.
And this bit about The Shield flying --- that's just bizarre. But his inter=
actions with Magog are interesting, to say the least.
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what=
 is the truth?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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=C2=A0=20



<Shame the old MLJ heroes never had a guardian like JC to protect them from=
 DC Comics folly.>
=C2=A0
I'll second that.

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Mister Cantwell <phabox@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Mister Cantwell <phabox@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, what=
 is the truth?
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 6:05 AM

=C2=A0=20

Shame the old MLJ heroes never had a guardian like JC to protect them from =
DC Comics folly.

-Nigel

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> From: geoff brenneman <geofffl@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John Carbonaro, wh=
at is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 2:12
> years ago when dc was planning a new
> thunder agents series and it was suddenly dropped i was on a
> thunder agents yahoo group blaming carbonaro without the
> facts
> i find out he was also on that yahoo group and this is what
> he had said he said no to the deal when dc was going to make
> them more adult kinda like the authority in wildstorm which
> would radically change wally woods creations
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> From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 8:54:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
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> I don't know the exact truth about the DC/Carbonaro/
> THUNDER Agents thing either.=C2=A0 However, I do know from
> correspondence with him just before he passed away that
> there was a large company and a smaller company after him to
> sell them the rights/license the characters.=C2=A0 He did not
> tell me the names of the companies.
>=20
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@
> yahoo.ca> wrote:
>=20
> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro, what is the truth?
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:19 PM
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
> Respectfully meant,
> =C2=A0
> The Thunder Agents are not in the public domain. Because
> Singer was soundly defeated in court on that matter.
> =C2=A0
> Later, the real owner of The Thunder Agents, John
> Carbonaro, likely contracting to either sell or lease the
> Thunder Agents to DC. I don't know which, though; or even if
> DC did the same thing with Thunder Agents that they did with
> Peter Cannon/-Thunderbolt : decide to just publish them
> irregardless of who owned them. They planned to do it, John
> Carbonaro, while he was still alive, balked at DC's redo of
> the Agents (too many changes), and while some art was
> prepared, nothing was published by DC, except reprints in
> Archive Editions.=20
> =C2=A0
> John Carbonaro has since passed away.
> =C2=A0
> Maybe (?) DC therefore decided they 'own' them, since
> Carbonaro is no longer among the living?
> =C2=A0
> Please note: while I know about the Peter
> Cannon/-Thunderbolt case with Pete Morisi, I am NOT claiming
> to know the truth about The Thunder Agents, DC and John
> Carbonaro. Does anyone?
> =C2=A0
> Best,
> =C2=A0
> Phil Latter
>=20
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> wrote:
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> From: Shiai <Shiai@wowway. com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The truth about Pete
> Morisi and Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:59 PM
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
> Well, to be fair to David Singer, the court did finally
> declare the T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents to be in the public
> domain, and he had the legal right to continue publishing
> new stories with the characters. As I recall, I think what
> did Deluxe Comics in was not the lawsuit, but rather the
> failure of several distributors which owed the company
> money, and without that income, Singer couldn't meet his
> financial obligations, so he closed up shop.
>=20
> Somehow or another, DC seems to now own the rights to the
> characters.. .or maybe only to their original stories, I'm
> not entirely sure. But while that may mean someone else
> could do new T.H.U.N.D.E. R. Agents stories, I suspect no
> one wants to deal with the inevitable (and expensive)
> nuisance lawsuit from DC.
>=20
> Oh, and regarding Peter Cannon, I remember a late 1980s
> interview with Marv Wolfman (when he was more or less on the
> outs with DC, and had no reason to show them any love), in
> which he said as he understood it, DC had thought they had
> purchased the rights to the character along with the others,
> but that Charlton had been a bit murky on the details, so DC
> didn't realize Pete was the actual owner. So Wolfman and
> Perez had Thunderbolt make a cameo in CRISIS ON INFINITE
> EARTHS, and DC only learned afterward that the character
> wasn't theirs to use.
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:44:34 -0500 (EST)
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>=20
> This was DC as corporate bully, just as Deluxe Comics'
> David Singer published, illegally, new stories with the
> Thunder Agents, which they did not own.=20
>=20
> The owner sued, but when the process servers came to his
> mother's door to 'serve' him with the legal papers that he
> was required to go to court, he had his mother say he was
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Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko.blogspot.com/1990/01/ditko-books-in-print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote one. 

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
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as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=A0are great. Not something that I can=A0rea=
d all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazing wor=
k.


----- Original Message ----
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko.blogspot.com/1990/01/ditko-books-in-print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce


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Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20




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Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM
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=C2=A0=20
as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.

----- Original Message ----
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To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Snyder, and Rodney Schroeter, who also sells various Ditko items on ebay, a=
re both nice guys and easy to deal with.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20

____________ _________ _________ __
From: R S <xanadude28@yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

=C2=A0=20
as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Thanks Bruce. I need now to get off my duff and get this book ordered. I've=
 got no more excuses.=20

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.> wrote:
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> Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. =
It's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:
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s a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s a=
nd early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrot=
e one.=20
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> In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did i=
n the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.
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> Thanks,
> Bruce
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Sounds like the Robin Snyder Fan Club.=C2=A0 lol.
=C2=A0

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 4:22 PM


=C2=A0=20



Snyder, and Rodney Schroeter, who also sells various Ditko items on ebay, a=
re both nice guys and easy to deal with.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:52 PM

=C2=A0=20

Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20

____________ _________ _________ __
From: R S <xanadude28@ yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

=C2=A0=20
as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Anyone got an email address for Robin ?
=C2=A0
I want to ask him about a 'lost' Golden Age Flash story I believe he may ha=
ve once printed.
=C2=A0
-Kermitt

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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:26


=C2=A0=20



Sounds like the Robin Snyder Fan Club.=C2=A0 lol.
=C2=A0

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 4:22 PM

=C2=A0=20

Snyder, and Rodney Schroeter, who also sells various Ditko items on ebay, a=
re both nice guys and easy to deal with.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:52 PM

=C2=A0=20

Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20

____________ _________ _________ __
From: R S <xanadude28@ yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

=C2=A0=20
as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20

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Kermitt, Robin's e-mail address is robinbrigit@comcast.net

And I am a "fan" of Robin's, in the sense that he's a nice guy who is givin=
g us Ditko fans an outlet to buy the man's work. Had it not been for Robin,=
 I suspect much of Ditko's work from the past=C2=A010 years would be sittin=
g in Ditko's apartment unpublished.

=C2=A0



________________________________
From: sadgeekymuppett. <sadgeekymuppett@yahoo.co.uk>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:15:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

=C2=A0=20
Anyone got an email address for Robin ?
=C2=A0
I want to ask him about a 'lost' Golden Age Flash story I believe he may ha=
ve once printed.
=C2=A0
-Kermitt

--- On Thu, 4/2/10, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:26

=C2=A0=20

Sounds like the Robin Snyder Fan Club.=C2=A0 lol.
=C2=A0

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 4:22 PM

=C2=A0=20

Snyder, and Rodney Schroeter, who also sells various Ditko items on ebay, a=
re both nice guys and easy to deal with.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:52 PM

=C2=A0=20

Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20

____________ _________ _________ __
From: R S <xanadude28@ yahoo. com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

=C2=A0=20
as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.

And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.

----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:

http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html

I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20

In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.

Thanks,
Bruce

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20

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Thank You.-Kermitt

--- On Thu, 4/2/10, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 15:51















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      Kermitt, Robin's e-mail address is robinbrigit@ comcast.net



And I am a "fan" of Robin's, in the sense that he's a nice guy who is givin=
g us Ditko fans an outlet to buy the man's work. Had it not been for Robin,=
 I suspect much of Ditko's work from the past=C2=A010 years would be sittin=
g in Ditko's apartment unpublished.



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From: sadgeekymuppett. <sadgeekymuppett@ yahoo.co. uk>

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:15:05 AM

Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko



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Anyone got an email address for Robin ?

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I want to ask him about a 'lost' Golden Age Flash story I believe he may ha=
ve once printed.

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-Kermitt



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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:26



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Sounds like the Robin Snyder Fan Club.=C2=A0 lol.

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--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: Allen Smith <metron12001@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 4:22 PM



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Snyder, and Rodney Schroeter, who also sells various Ditko items on ebay, a=
re both nice guys and easy to deal with.

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith



--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:52 PM



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Completely agree on all counts. I've ordered several books from Robin Snyde=
r and it's been a great experience.=20



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From: R S <xanadude28@ yahoo. com>

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:34:41 PM

Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko



=C2=A0=20

as an aside, I just wanted to say that Robin Snyder was really great when I=
 ordered several of the Ditko books from him - very easy to deal with and p=
atient with my questions.=C2=A0 Good guy all around.



And, of course, the Ditko books=C2=A0are great. Not something that I can=C2=
=A0read all in one sitting (HUGE and packed with a LOT of stuff), but amazi=
ng work.



----- Original Message ----

From: Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@ yahoo.com>

To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:23:03 PM

Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Ditko



Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. It=
's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:



http://ditko. blogspot. com/1990/ 01/ditko- books-in- print.html



I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It's =
a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s and=
 early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrote =
one.=20



In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did in =
the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.



Thanks,

Bruce



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I just bought a bunch of ditko's later work from Discount Comic Book Servic=
e.  List below with regular price, percent discount, and the currently disc=
ounted price.

http://www.dcbservice.com/

Darryn


MR A #1 (CURRENT PRINTING) *Special Discount*	 $5.00 	50%	 $2.50=20
DITKO PRESENTS *Special Discount*	 $4.00 	35%	 $2.60=20
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@..=
.> wrote:
>
> Yes, the 160-Page Charlton Package is still available from Robin Snyder. =
It's $13, plus $3 S&H. Here's a link for ordering information:
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> http://ditko.blogspot.com/1990/01/ditko-books-in-print.html
>=20
> I ordered this particular book a few months back and it is fantastic. It'=
s a collection of 20 of Ditko's Charlton ghost stories from the late '60s a=
nd early '70s. Most were co-written by Joe Gill, although Denny O'Neil wrot=
e one.=20
>=20
> In my opinion, the art looks much better in black and white than it did i=
n the original color comics. I would highly recommend this book.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Bruce
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Subject: The Sarge Steel Reports - File #101
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One thing I discovered to my dismay while I was gathering materials for my =
Judomaster reports was that my Sarge Steel collection was incomplete. The s=
eries runs for eight issues as Sarge Steel then becomes Secret Agent for tw=
o more issues. I thought I had them all, but it's been years since I looked=
 closely and I found to my horror that I did not have a copy of Secret Agen=
t #9 thus making my collection woefully incomplete. I jumped onto the Mile =
High website and found a copy listed but they said they did not have it in =
stock, so I jumped on ebay and found a copy which promptly ordered. It arri=
ved promptly, so I can for the first time read the entire Sarge Steel saga =
through. I begin that today with the first issue. Oh and as a footnote, whe=
n my order from Mile High arrived a low-grade copy of the comic was include=
d after all so now I have two.

But on with the report.

Sarge Steel #1 is dated December 1964 and begins as a quarterly comic. Oddl=
y for Charlton this is Volume 1 #1, something common to other publishers bu=
t almost unheard of for the Derby outfit. But wait, the numbering and titli=
ng will get confusing later so don't fret. The credited creator of the seri=
es is Pat Masulli, also the executive editor of Charlton at this time. Joe =
Gill is listed as scripter and Dick Giordano is on the art. The story title=
d "The Case of the Pearls of Death" is File #101.

Chapter I is titled "Consignment Terror". It begins in the morning as Sarge=
 returns to his office at 5:45 after a night of entertainment. His secretar=
y Bessie Forbes meets him and after some flirting from Sarge she shows in h=
is client. She is a lovely Vietnamese girl named Lin Ying. Sarge dismisses =
himself to shower and change clothes then he gets Ying's story. Her father =
is pearl merchant and has disappeared and a man named Ivan Chung might well=
 be involved. As they walk along the street a thug of appears but Sarge put=
s him down fast. They have breakfast and Sarge learns that there is a secre=
t deal with these pearls out of Saigon and Ivan Chung, a name Sarge already=
 knows, is involved. Sarge and Lin get in his XK-150 sports car and head to=
 Chung's presumed headquarters. Here Sarge uses his steel fist to break in =
the door but they find nothing. Then another thug appears but he is dispatc=
hed and the pair get onto a small boat looking for Chung's ship. But they a=
re spotted and Chung and his henchman try to shoot their boat, then run it =
over. Sarge is cast into the sea but is fished out by Chung's men and Sarge=
's last thoughts are of Saigon where he lost his hand.

"The O.S.S. in World War II" is a three-page feature about the efforts of t=
he Office of Strategic Services and its role in arming partisans and other =
espionage work in the Big One. It seems to be by the Bill Fracchio and Tony=
 Tallarico team.

"The Spark" is a two-page text piece about some key battles during World Wa=
r I.

"The Road to Freedom" is a one-page piece about Marines in the 1st Division=
 trying to maneuver after the battle of Chosin. This one seems to be by Sam=
 Glanzman.

Chapter II of the Sarge Steel story is titled "Nightmare in Saigon" and is =
a clever flashback sequence featuring Sarge's memories of his days in Saigo=
n while cutting back once in a while to the unconscious form of Sarge and L=
in on Chung's ship. Captain Sarge Steel was apparently quite formidable and=
 was responsible for breaking up the network of Ivan Chung in Saigon. But a=
fter capturinng Chung several attempts on Sarge's life are made which he su=
rvives. The last one happened at a dance and while Sarge was attempting to =
enjoy himself dancing with a young lady a grenade tumbles into the room. Sa=
rge grabs it to throw it out the window, but it has had some sticky substan=
ce applied so all he can do is thrust his arm out the window. This of cours=
e doesn't kill him, but he loses his hand.

Chapter III is titled "Destination Death" and in it Sarge wakes from his Sa=
igon nightmare to confront Ivan Chung. Lin is by Sarge's side in tears. Chu=
ng is trying to find the pearls Lin's father brought to him but has now hid=
den. Lin is distraught so at one point Sarge smacks her to bring her to her=
 senses. Listening in using a bug, Chung overhears Sarge and Lin talk about=
 the pearls being hidden in the lining of an attache case. Chung sends agen=
ts to find it. Meanwhile Bessie has contacted the CIA to tell them that Sar=
ge has gone missing and inform them about the case he was on. The CIA inter=
cept Chung's agent getting the pearls and then have him take them to Chung'=
s hidden location. Back on the ship, Lin is reunited with her father and th=
e three plan an escape. Chung goes to thwart the plan, but this time he's b=
een tricked as Sarge is waiting for him and subdues him with his steel fist=
. After some small gunplay they radio for help and Lin is so relieved that =
she hopes aloud that her vacation won't be a complete waste. Sarge tells he=
r if she sticks with him, it won't if she says "Yes Sarge" to everything he=
 suggests.

This is a neat origin story. It's got plenty of action, answers the questio=
ns about the background of our hero but leaves lots of room for expansion. =
Sarge is clearly a blend of the noir-style tough guy detective and popular =
super-spy. The story is a tad wordy, but the use of first person point of v=
iew adds to the noir feel of the book and gives the story an interesting ch=
aracter. This point of view will be used throughout the series as far as I =
know. Sarge's Vietnam connection gives the book a specific and modern feel =
that other comics of the era lacked, since rarely was Vietnam mentioned in =
comic of the time other than a war book. This is something that Charlton di=
d quite often in fact in their books. Sarge is definitely a cold warrior, a=
nd that will become a greater part of the series as it develops. The unoffi=
cial subtitle of the book is "Private Detective", but this focus will shift=
 also as the series continues.

More to come.

Rip Off=20


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Thanks for this idea Phil. I've had the scans for this book saved for a ver=
y long time, but for whatever reason I never thought to print them. It seem=
s too obvious now, but I did this morning and I have to say having them on =
paper is a different experience than having only online versions. It feels =
more like a true Boyette experience. I'm going to read Peacemaker again rea=
l soon, and now I can treat issue #6 like just another issue.=20

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ote:
>
>  all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final issue whic=
h I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton Portfolio (=
really, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to the Ditko =
run) # 50,51,52,53,and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My # 51 is on=
ly in fair condition.=20
> =C2=A0



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You're more than welcome, Dean!
=C2=A0
In fact, while I printed off that Peacemaker unpublished story quite some t=
ime ago, I don't know where the dickens it has gone! Can you show me where =
it is online so I can print it off again?
=C2=A0
Please and thanks!
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:27 AM


=C2=A0=20



Thanks for this idea Phil. I've had the scans for this book saved for a ver=
y long time, but for whatever reason I never thought to print them. It seem=
s too obvious now, but I did this morning and I have to say having them on =
paper is a different experience than having only online versions. It feels =
more like a true Boyette experience. I'm going to read Peacemaker again rea=
l soon, and now I can treat issue #6 like just another issue.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ...>=
 wrote:
>
> all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final issue which=
 I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton Portfolio (r=
eally, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to the Ditko r=
un) # 50,51,52,53, and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My # 51 is on=
ly in fair condition.=20
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Actually, Phil, it's in the files section of this group.

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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 6:57 PM


=C2=A0=20



You're more than welcome, Dean!
=C2=A0
In fact, while I printed off that Peacemaker unpublished story quite some t=
ime ago, I don't know where the dickens it has gone! Can you show me where =
it is online so I can print it off again?
=C2=A0
Please and thanks!
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:27 AM

=C2=A0=20

Thanks for this idea Phil. I've had the scans for this book saved for a ver=
y long time, but for whatever reason I never thought to print them. It seem=
s too obvious now, but I did this morning and I have to say having them on =
paper is a different experience than having only online versions. It feels =
more like a true Boyette experience. I'm going to read Peacemaker again rea=
l soon, and now I can treat issue #6 like just another issue.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ...>=
 wrote:
>
> all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final issue which=
 I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton Portfolio (r=
eally, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to the Ditko r=
un) # 50,51,52,53, and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My # 51 is on=
ly in fair condition.=20
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Ah! Okay! I'll go and get it, then!
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Thanks.
=C2=A0
Phil

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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
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Actually, Phil, it's in the files section of this group.

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 6:57 PM

=C2=A0=20

You're more than welcome, Dean!
=C2=A0
In fact, while I printed off that Peacemaker unpublished story quite some t=
ime ago, I don't know where the dickens it has gone! Can you show me where =
it is online so I can print it off again?
=C2=A0
Please and thanks!
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:27 AM

=C2=A0=20

Thanks for this idea Phil. I've had the scans for this book saved for a ver=
y long time, but for whatever reason I never thought to print them. It seem=
s too obvious now, but I did this morning and I have to say having them on =
paper is a different experience than having only online versions. It feels =
more like a true Boyette experience. I'm going to read Peacemaker again rea=
l soon, and now I can treat issue #6 like just another issue.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ...>=
 wrote:
>
> all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final issue which=
 I printed off), the final Ditko Blue Beetle from The Charlton Portfolio (r=
eally, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to the Ditko r=
un) # 50,51,52,53, and 53. I need an upgrade of # 51, though. My # 51 is on=
ly in fair condition.=20
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Sarge Steel #2 is dated February 1966. Pat Masulli is credited as creator, =
Joe Gill as scripter and the art is by Dick Giordano. The is a particularly=
 good one by Giordano.

File #102 "Case of the Man Who Blackmailed the World" begins with a symboli=
c splash page with Sarge shooting it out with Lisa Monelli a beautiful and =
rich vamp of no small reputation. The story itself starts with Bessie, Sarg=
e's secretary interrupting his fencing practice to show him a picture of Mo=
nelli and he indicates they've met already the previous night along with a =
notorious U-Boat captain named Werner Von Hess. Sarge arranges a second mee=
ting with the two and discovers they plan to blackmail the governments of t=
he world with a stolen nuclear submarine armed with polaris missiles. They =
indicate they have already detonated two of these nuclear missiles in Green=
land and Melville Island, blasts the big powers currently blame on one anot=
her. Sarge is to be the go-between for the negotiations because of his quas=
i-official status with the U.S. government. Von Hess then detonates a dummy=
 missile over the city to further make his point which convinces Steel who =
punches out the guard before he takes his leave and the message to official=
s in the government. He meets with an Admiral and is told to continue negot=
iations. He hooks back up with Monelli and discovers that the stolen sub is=
 in the local area so a race begins back to the sub, Sarge using a hired he=
licopter. The helicopter is shot down and Sarge is taken aboard the submari=
ne ending Part I.

"The Guardians" is a three-page story by Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallarico w=
hich tells of a man named Jake Roland who must drive off killer man-eating =
sharks as well as an octopus to get to sunken treasure. He succeeds and eve=
n kills enought sharks with dynamite that the fishing in the area can retur=
n to normal.

"Raney's Rangers" is a two-page text piece which tells of a military unit w=
hich goes on a virtual suicide mission to destroy a Japanese ammunition dep=
ot deep behind enemy lines. The all-volunteer force succeeds in the mission=
 with many casualties but most are able to stay safe until help arrives by =
hiding in the tunnels beneath an ancient temple shown them by locals.

Part II of the Sarge Steel story is titled "The Millionaire Trap" and begin=
s with Sarge and Lisa Monelli in the Mediterranean resort of Luxaco where V=
on Hess and Monelli plan to extort more money from the fabulously rich peop=
le at the resort. Monelli goes from rich man to rich man using her charms t=
o first entice them and then deliver the ultimatum. Sarge observes but take=
s advantage of a chance to escape by driving an elbow into the stomach of P=
aul her skull-faced bodyguard and steals a motor boat which is intercepted =
by a submarine and Sarge is given a tour of the workings of the polaris mis=
sles system. (The script says this is Von Hess's sub, but the images contra=
dict that. More on this below.) Sarge returns to shore and Monelli but turn=
s on her deflecting a bullet fired by Paul back at him using his steel mitt=
.

"It Takes a Man" is a two-page feature by Fracchio and Tallarico again I th=
ink about how despite the advance of war technology certain things can only=
 be achieved by men and that war is waged by men who love their country.

Part III of the Sarge Steel story is titled "The Atomic Challenge" and begi=
ns with Sarge and Monelli boating out to Von Hess's captured sub and going =
aboard. Monelli is shocked to learn that Von Hess really means to use the n=
uclear missles and not merely use them as blackmail gambits as she intended=
. Sarge uses this distraction to attack the villains but Von Hess gets the =
drop on him and takes both Sarge and Lisa to a room and locks them in. Sarg=
e uses his steel fist to break in the lock and they escape and Sarge with M=
onelli's help destroys the mechanisms that work the missiles. He and Monell=
i then get into one of the missile silos which operate by pressure and use =
them to shoot themselves out of the submarine and to the surface where they=
 are picked up by a U.S. Navy ship. Monelli regrets her role but accepts sh=
e must go to prison and Sarge regrets they couldn't have met under differen=
t circumstances.

This is a ranging adventure with a real Bond-like feel as it swoops across =
the globe. The noir feel of the detective story is given over to the broade=
r spy adventure story this time. The first-person narration used in all Sar=
ge stories keeps it lively. There does to seem to be a real problem with th=
e storytelling in one section, specifically where Sarge is presumably captu=
red by the sub in Luxaco. This seems obviously to be a friendly sub where S=
arge gets the information he will need later to disable Von Hess's stolen s=
ub, but the script suggest he's on Von Hess's sub all the time. A man clear=
ly not Von Hess is said to be him. It's pretty confusing, but once you figu=
re out what must've happened it can be worked out.

More to come.

Rip Off


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I feel your pain Phil. These Yahoo clubs are getting to be like my comic bo=
ok collection. I've got some great stuff tucked away, but I forget about it=
.=20


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Ah! Okay! I'll go and get it, then!
> =C2=A0
> Thanks.
> =C2=A0
> Phil
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> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:33 PM
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> =C2=A0=20
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> Actually, Phil, it's in the files section of this group.
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>=20
> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 6:57 PM
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> =C2=A0=20
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> You're more than welcome, Dean!
> =C2=A0
> In fact, while I printed off that Peacemaker unpublished story quite some=
 time ago, I don't know where the dickens it has gone! Can you show me wher=
e it is online so I can print it off again?
> =C2=A0
> Please and thanks!
> =C2=A0
> Best,
> =C2=A0
> Phil
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> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Publishing Peacemaker!
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Received: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:27 AM
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
> Thanks for this idea Phil. I've had the scans for this book saved for a v=
ery long time, but for whatever reason I never thought to print them. It se=
ems too obvious now, but I did this morning and I have to say having them o=
n paper is a different experience than having only online versions. It feel=
s more like a true Boyette experience. I'm going to read Peacemaker again r=
eal soon, and now I can treat issue #6 like just another issue.=20
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@ ..=
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> > all the Peacemakers (including the net only unpublished final issue whi=
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(really, CPL double issue # 9/-10. And Blue Beetle (just prior to the Ditko=
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Subject: The Sarge Steel Reports - File #103
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Sarge Steel #3 is dated April-May 1967. Created by Pat Masulli with script =
by Joe Gill, Illustrations by Dick Giordano and Letters by Jon D'Agostino, =
the issue features a cover by Giordano. The title still has the "Private De=
tective" label attached.

Case #103 "The Heritage of Hate" begins with a splash page featuring Sarge =
fencing with a man wearing a swastika on his fencing mask with the Smiling =
Skull shooting a bullet between them while a beautiful redhead lingers on t=
he floor. The story starts in Sarge's office with Sarge late for an appoint=
ment charging across town avoiding parking tickets and speeding to make a d=
ate with Rocky. Rocky it turns out is an ex-light-heavyweight boxing champ =
with whom Sarge spars twice a week. After the bout Sarge shows off his stee=
l fist to an interested party by smashing a bathroom wall, then goes to his=
 locker to find a man stealing his signature steel luger. He breaks his wri=
st and sends him packing. Later at his office he listens to Bessie's record=
ed notes about the clients of the day, but is interrupted by three thugs. S=
arge battles them and defeats all three but then is slugged from behind by =
an unknown party. He awakes in the arms of a beautiful redhead named Inga R=
oss. Then police appear and tell Sarge that while they don't suspect him, t=
hey need him to come with them to answer questions since bullets matching h=
is gun have turned up in regard to two homicides. He discovers that his lug=
er has a silver twin with the same serial number and almost identical and b=
allistics patterns. That silver Luger reportedly owned by Rudolf Wolk. Then=
 after leaving the police office Inga pulls a gun and forces Sarge onto a p=
lane headed south.

Part II is titled "The Smiling Skull" and opens as Rudolf Wolk, the Smiling=
 Skull approaches Sarge's plane in a military style jet. Both planes land o=
n a field in a "banana republic". After a few words, Wolk uses his signatur=
e silver luger to demonstrate his shooting skill by shooting at Sarge who i=
s unimpressed. After trading a few bon mots Sarge and Wolk come into confli=
ct with Sarge deflecting Wolk's shot with his steel fist and then knocking =
out the Nazi. Taking Wolk's gun and running out the window, he finds Inga h=
anging out another window and re-enters the building. She says her father i=
s being held captive and then thugs appear with guns. Sarge shoots them as =
they head to the dungeons in the network of tunnels under the base. Sarge a=
nd Inga encounter a fencer wearing a swastika on his fencing mask just as S=
arge realizes his silver Luger is empty.

"C.I." is a two-page text piece about the training and expertise needed to =
do the job of Criminal Investigator in the military. The essay is narrated =
by Major John William Henry.

"Doomsday" is a one-page story by artist Bill Molno about the threat of nuc=
lear war and speaks of bombers, submarine missiles and the future threat of=
 missiles launched from the ocean floor.

Part III is titled "The Silver Luger" and begins as Sarge defeats the fence=
r, blocking his sword with his fist then he and Inga head into the dungeon =
as Wolk appears with another gun. They find bars blocking the way, but Sarg=
e is able to use his fist to bust through them. The pair run into a staging=
 area filled with jet planes and other equipment which Inga explains is the=
 secret weapons cache of the Smiling Skull and includes nuclear weapons. Sa=
rge reloads the silver luger and then releasing fuel sets fire to the weapo=
ns cache. Fleeing the raging fire they find Inga's father just as they come=
 under fire from a machine gun, but Sarge dispatches the gunner. He then ge=
ts Inga's dad and other released prisoners to use the machine gun to hold t=
he Nazis at bay while and Rudolph Wolk the Smiling Skull face off. Again Sa=
rge deflects the bullet with his fist and fires at Wolk seemingly killing h=
im. But a caption says Wolk will be held for trial as the battle is won and=
 the wannabe Nazis are defeated. Sarge gets a kiss from Inga but the final =
panel shows him returning to his office where Bessie waits. He brings the s=
ilver Luger with him.

Finally there is "The Sport of Judo" a three-page feature written and drawn=
 by Frank McLaughlin featuring Sarge Steel telling the reader all about the=
 basics of judo and how it should be seen more as a sport requiring specifi=
c discipline rather than just a deadly secret science.

This is a solid issue of Sarge Steel. The format of the story has more of t=
he spy flavor from the second issue and less of the noir feel of the first.=
 The Smiling Skull is a memorable baddie and it's always good when the good=
 guys are cleaning out a nest of Nazis. Back in the 60's there were plenty =
of these unrepentant types to subdue it seems. Sarge really depended on his=
 steel fist in this one using it many times to deflect bullets a now common=
 trick, and as a shield of sorts in the fencing bout. It's a great all-purp=
ose weapon in these stories and as a mace is perfect. Sarge's strength seem=
s a bit amplified this time, but I guess we can write some things off to me=
tal fatigue.

More to come.

Rip Off


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Just out of curiosity, what has DC done with the character?=C2=A0 Any solo =
Sarge Steel DC books out there?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Sarge Steel Reports - File #103
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:55 AM


=C2=A0=20



Sarge Steel #3 is dated April-May 1967. Created by Pat Masulli with script =
by Joe Gill, Illustrations by Dick Giordano and Letters by Jon D'Agostino, =
the issue features a cover by Giordano. The title still has the "Private De=
tective" label attached.

Case #103 "The Heritage of Hate" begins with a splash page featuring Sarge =
fencing with a man wearing a swastika on his fencing mask with the Smiling =
Skull shooting a bullet between them while a beautiful redhead lingers on t=
he floor. The story starts in Sarge's office with Sarge late for an appoint=
ment charging across town avoiding parking tickets and speeding to make a d=
ate with Rocky. Rocky it turns out is an ex-light-heavyweigh t boxing champ=
 with whom Sarge spars twice a week. After the bout Sarge shows off his ste=
el fist to an interested party by smashing a bathroom wall, then goes to hi=
s locker to find a man stealing his signature steel luger. He breaks his wr=
ist and sends him packing. Later at his office he listens to Bessie's recor=
ded notes about the clients of the day, but is interrupted by three thugs. =
Sarge battles them and defeats all three but then is slugged from behind by=
 an unknown party. He awakes in the arms of a beautiful redhead
 named Inga Ross. Then police appear and tell Sarge that while they don't s=
uspect him, they need him to come with them to answer questions since bulle=
ts matching his gun have turned up in regard to two homicides. He discovers=
 that his luger has a silver twin with the same serial number and almost id=
entical and ballistics patterns. That silver Luger reportedly owned by Rudo=
lf Wolk. Then after leaving the police office Inga pulls a gun and forces S=
arge onto a plane headed south.

Part II is titled "The Smiling Skull" and opens as Rudolf Wolk, the Smiling=
 Skull approaches Sarge's plane in a military style jet. Both planes land o=
n a field in a "banana republic". After a few words, Wolk uses his signatur=
e silver luger to demonstrate his shooting skill by shooting at Sarge who i=
s unimpressed. After trading a few bon mots Sarge and Wolk come into confli=
ct with Sarge deflecting Wolk's shot with his steel fist and then knocking =
out the Nazi. Taking Wolk's gun and running out the window, he finds Inga h=
anging out another window and re-enters the building. She says her father i=
s being held captive and then thugs appear with guns. Sarge shoots them as =
they head to the dungeons in the network of tunnels under the base. Sarge a=
nd Inga encounter a fencer wearing a swastika on his fencing mask just as S=
arge realizes his silver Luger is empty.

"C.I." is a two-page text piece about the training and expertise needed to =
do the job of Criminal Investigator in the military. The essay is narrated =
by Major John William Henry.

"Doomsday" is a one-page story by artist Bill Molno about the threat of nuc=
lear war and speaks of bombers, submarine missiles and the future threat of=
 missiles launched from the ocean floor.

Part III is titled "The Silver Luger" and begins as Sarge defeats the fence=
r, blocking his sword with his fist then he and Inga head into the dungeon =
as Wolk appears with another gun. They find bars blocking the way, but Sarg=
e is able to use his fist to bust through them. The pair run into a staging=
 area filled with jet planes and other equipment which Inga explains is the=
 secret weapons cache of the Smiling Skull and includes nuclear weapons. Sa=
rge reloads the silver luger and then releasing fuel sets fire to the weapo=
ns cache. Fleeing the raging fire they find Inga's father just as they come=
 under fire from a machine gun, but Sarge dispatches the gunner. He then ge=
ts Inga's dad and other released prisoners to use the machine gun to hold t=
he Nazis at bay while and Rudolph Wolk the Smiling Skull face off. Again Sa=
rge deflects the bullet with his fist and fires at Wolk seemingly killing h=
im. But a caption says Wolk will be held for trial as the battle is
 won and the wannabe Nazis are defeated. Sarge gets a kiss from Inga but th=
e final panel shows him returning to his office where Bessie waits. He brin=
gs the silver Luger with him.

Finally there is "The Sport of Judo" a three-page feature written and drawn=
 by Frank McLaughlin featuring Sarge Steel telling the reader all about the=
 basics of judo and how it should be seen more as a sport requiring specifi=
c discipline rather than just a deadly secret science.

This is a solid issue of Sarge Steel. The format of the story has more of t=
he spy flavor from the second issue and less of the noir feel of the first.=
 The Smiling Skull is a memorable baddie and it's always good when the good=
 guys are cleaning out a nest of Nazis. Back in the 60's there were plenty =
of these unrepentant types to subdue it seems. Sarge really depended on his=
 steel fist in this one using it many times to deflect bullets a now common=
 trick, and as a shield of sorts in the fencing bout. It's a great all-purp=
ose weapon in these stories and as a mace is perfect. Sarge's strength seem=
s a bit amplified this time, but I guess we can write some things off to me=
tal fatigue.

More to come.

Rip Off









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Sarge Steel #4 is dated July 1965. Created by Pat Masulli and scripted by J=
oe Gill, this issue features artwork by Dick Giordano with Jon D'Agostino o=
n the lettering. The cover is another choice one by Giordano.

The story "Case of the Kiss of the Cat" begins with a splash featuring Sarg=
e facing off against a beautiful black-haired woman and her black panther. =
The story begins in a night club where Sarge is confronted by a thug named =
Moo who is a bodyguard for Lynx, but Sarge makes way with him and spends th=
e evening dancing with the beautiful and rich thrillseeker. The papers the =
next several days feature Lynx making a splash everywhere she went creating=
 quite a distraction, which Steel thinks might be linked to certain robberi=
es. He is employed by Harker Bliss to safeguard some jewels which are being=
 displayed during a party which Lynx will attend. She arrives with an ocelo=
t on a leash which Sarge charms with some scent he brought for that very si=
tuation. He spies Lynx on the balcony distracted and then he himself sees a=
 burglar climbing down a wall which Sarge confronts and sends splashing int=
o the pool a few stories below. But there's a big explosion and the vault w=
as robbed while all this happened. Lynx makes her exit as Part I finishes.

"P is for Parachute" is a one-page text piece about the history of parachut=
es.

Part II is titled "The Strolling Statue" and begins with Lynx and her hench=
men Moo and Felix planning her next heist. Steel has been engaged to supply=
 some security advice for the World's Fair and goes to fulfill that obligat=
ion when he encounters Lynx. He checks out the statue "The Dreamer" just be=
fore it is stolen with the use of sleeping gas and some disguise work. The =
life-size statue is dressed and driven off the Fair grounds in one of the d=
istinctive taxis the Fair uses. Steel recognizes the thieves, attempts to i=
ntercept them but is knocked out himself when Lynx unleashes her panther on=
 him. He wakes up in time to see a hydrofoil disappear across the horizon.

Part III is titled "Death on Cat Cay" and begins with Sarge rising out of t=
he water onto the beach of Cat Cay, the ideal location for Lynx's hideout h=
e suspects. He makes his way past the guards using various hand-to-hand and=
 judo techniques. He leaps the fence using high-tech jump-jets and then sca=
les the wall of the central hideout taking out various guards before at lon=
g last finding location of stolen statue. He then is again confronted by Ly=
nx and her panther, but this time he uses his Luger to dispatch the attacki=
ng animal. Lynx is furious but then abruptly seemingly succumbs to Sarge's =
charms calling her "Man of Steel". But he is not fooled as she reaches for =
his gun. Suddenly British policemen show up and arrest Lynx and her men. It=
 seems Cat Cay is under British mandate and they take the Lynx into custody=
. But as Sarge relates to Bessie and Harker Bliss later when he returns the=
 jewels, she escaped the British police boat and seemingly drowned. Bliss a=
nd Steel lament the loss of such a beautiful woman, but Bessie is less impr=
essed. The story ends with a final panel announcing the next adventure feat=
uring arch-villain Ivan Chung.

"Sport of Judo" is a three-page instructional piece by Frank McLaughlin fea=
turing Sarge Steel giving tips on two judo throws, specifically Osoto Gari-=
Major Outer Reaping Throw and Osoto Makikomi Major Outer Winding Throw. The=
 former was specifically used in the main Steel story this issue.

This issue has a ranging setting, but does live up to the noir private eye =
quality more than the previous two which had a greater spy feel. This one d=
eals with mere thefts, though the thief is very well connected and highly o=
rganized. This is a solid issue by Giordano, who will be taking a break fro=
m the series with the next few issues.

More to come.=20

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Not that I'm aware of. Sarge has become DC's Nick Fury character, a behind-=
the-scenes director of organizations and stuff. As far as I can tell apart =
from the L.A.W. series and pretty much then too, he's been given a desk job=
 at DC.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
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> Just out of curiosity, what has DC done with the character?=C2=A0 Any sol=
o Sarge Steel DC books out there?
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> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
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> --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
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> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Sarge Steel Reports - File #103
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:55 AM
>=20
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> =C2=A0=20
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> Sarge Steel #3 is dated April-May 1967. Created by Pat Masulli with scrip=
t by Joe Gill, Illustrations by Dick Giordano and Letters by Jon D'Agostino=
, the issue features a cover by Giordano. The title still has the "Private =
Detective" label attached.
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> Case #103 "The Heritage of Hate" begins with a splash page featuring Sarg=
e fencing with a man wearing a swastika on his fencing mask with the Smilin=
g Skull shooting a bullet between them while a beautiful redhead lingers on=
 the floor. The story starts in Sarge's office with Sarge late for an appoi=
ntment charging across town avoiding parking tickets and speeding to make a=
 date with Rocky. Rocky it turns out is an ex-light-heavyweigh t boxing cha=
mp with whom Sarge spars twice a week. After the bout Sarge shows off his s=
teel fist to an interested party by smashing a bathroom wall, then goes to =
his locker to find a man stealing his signature steel luger. He breaks his =
wrist and sends him packing. Later at his office he listens to Bessie's rec=
orded notes about the clients of the day, but is interrupted by three thugs=
. Sarge battles them and defeats all three but then is slugged from behind =
by an unknown party. He awakes in the arms of a beautiful redhead
>  named Inga Ross. Then police appear and tell Sarge that while they don't=
 suspect him, they need him to come with them to answer questions since bul=
lets matching his gun have turned up in regard to two homicides. He discove=
rs that his luger has a silver twin with the same serial number and almost =
identical and ballistics patterns. That silver Luger reportedly owned by Ru=
dolf Wolk. Then after leaving the police office Inga pulls a gun and forces=
 Sarge onto a plane headed south.
>=20
> Part II is titled "The Smiling Skull" and opens as Rudolf Wolk, the Smili=
ng Skull approaches Sarge's plane in a military style jet. Both planes land=
 on a field in a "banana republic". After a few words, Wolk uses his signat=
ure silver luger to demonstrate his shooting skill by shooting at Sarge who=
 is unimpressed. After trading a few bon mots Sarge and Wolk come into conf=
lict with Sarge deflecting Wolk's shot with his steel fist and then knockin=
g out the Nazi. Taking Wolk's gun and running out the window, he finds Inga=
 hanging out another window and re-enters the building. She says her father=
 is being held captive and then thugs appear with guns. Sarge shoots them a=
s they head to the dungeons in the network of tunnels under the base. Sarge=
 and Inga encounter a fencer wearing a swastika on his fencing mask just as=
 Sarge realizes his silver Luger is empty.
>=20
> "C.I." is a two-page text piece about the training and expertise needed t=
o do the job of Criminal Investigator in the military. The essay is narrate=
d by Major John William Henry.
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> "Doomsday" is a one-page story by artist Bill Molno about the threat of n=
uclear war and speaks of bombers, submarine missiles and the future threat =
of missiles launched from the ocean floor.
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> Part III is titled "The Silver Luger" and begins as Sarge defeats the fen=
cer, blocking his sword with his fist then he and Inga head into the dungeo=
n as Wolk appears with another gun. They find bars blocking the way, but Sa=
rge is able to use his fist to bust through them. The pair run into a stagi=
ng area filled with jet planes and other equipment which Inga explains is t=
he secret weapons cache of the Smiling Skull and includes nuclear weapons. =
Sarge reloads the silver luger and then releasing fuel sets fire to the wea=
pons cache. Fleeing the raging fire they find Inga's father just as they co=
me under fire from a machine gun, but Sarge dispatches the gunner. He then =
gets Inga's dad and other released prisoners to use the machine gun to hold=
 the Nazis at bay while and Rudolph Wolk the Smiling Skull face off. Again =
Sarge deflects the bullet with his fist and fires at Wolk seemingly killing=
 him. But a caption says Wolk will be held for trial as the battle is
>  won and the wannabe Nazis are defeated. Sarge gets a kiss from Inga but =
the final panel shows him returning to his office where Bessie waits. He br=
ings the silver Luger with him.
>=20
> Finally there is "The Sport of Judo" a three-page feature written and dra=
wn by Frank McLaughlin featuring Sarge Steel telling the reader all about t=
he basics of judo and how it should be seen more as a sport requiring speci=
fic discipline rather than just a deadly secret science.
>=20
> This is a solid issue of Sarge Steel. The format of the story has more of=
 the spy flavor from the second issue and less of the noir feel of the firs=
t. The Smiling Skull is a memorable baddie and it's always good when the go=
od guys are cleaning out a nest of Nazis. Back in the 60's there were plent=
y of these unrepentant types to subdue it seems. Sarge really depended on h=
is steel fist in this one using it many times to deflect bullets a now comm=
on trick, and as a shield of sorts in the fencing bout. It's a great all-pu=
rpose weapon in these stories and as a mace is perfect. Sarge's strength se=
ems a bit amplified this time, but I guess we can write some things off to =
metal fatigue.
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> More to come.
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Sarge Steel #5 is dated September 1965. No writer is credited on the splash=
 page but no doubt it's Joe Gill. The art this time is by Bill Montes and E=
rnie Bache taking the reigns from Dick Giordano. Giordano does supply the c=
over for this issue though. The splash page shows Sarge in a headlock held =
by a giant Asian warrior with Ivan Chung holding a sword and ordering a bea=
utiful woman to shoot Sarge while a tweedy professor type looks on.

Part I of File 105 "The Case of the Caged Brain" begins on the beaches of M=
iami where Sarge is taking a small vacation. He is approached by a stunning=
 raven-haired beauty who turns out to be Li-Li also known as "The Black Lil=
y" a Chinese intelligence agent. She tells Sarge that she is attempting to =
get away from Ivan Chung, an old enemy of Sarge's, and the pair drive off t=
ogether in Sarge's car. But they are followed and a trap ends up with Sarge=
 trading bullets with unknown assailants. After the gunplay, Li-Li tells Sa=
rge the truth, that she is there to get him to come with her in order that =
a scientist working for Chung will finish a project. He claims that only if=
 Sarge is present will he feel safe enough to complete the assignment. Whil=
e kissing Li-Li Sarge feels the prick of a needle and soon is asleep. An Am=
erican agent reports from his car while Sarge is driven away and taken aboa=
rd a plane. The plane is tracked to a Cuban air field and we find out that =
this was part of a plan to get Sarge in touch with the scientist, a Dr.Cray=
ne. Sarge awakes on the plane, attacks his kidnappers but finds his neck in=
 the grip of some mighty hands.

"Special Services 3X" is a one-page text piece that talks about psychologic=
al warfare and the branch of the government which uses it. Then a story abo=
ut using toy mechanical snakes to trick superstitious Vietnamese soldiers i=
s related as an example.

Part II of the Sarge Steel story is titled "Fatal Beauty" and begins with S=
arge in the arms of Li-Li but under the eye of others, specifically a giant=
 Asian warrior. Li-Li kisses Sarge only to trick him and taking his luger a=
way. A long flight and eventually Sarge lands Northwest China and is taken =
to the headquarters of Ivan Chung where Dr.Crayne is working. Chung threate=
ns both Sarge and Crayne as well as Li-Li and Sarge punches him. Then the g=
iant warrior named Nhu gets involved and quickly gets Sarge in a barred cel=
l. But Sarge uses his steel fist to break out and a battle begins.

Part III is titled "Pick a Way to Die" and begins with Sarge and Nhu battli=
ng hand to hand. Eventually Sarge is able to get his very strong and agile =
opponent angry using his steel fist and is at a last able to knock him out.=
 Chung attacks but Sarge using his fist yet again breaks his sword. Li-Li a=
ims Sarge's luger at him, but she can't bring herself to kill him and so Sa=
rge knocks out Chung and the trio of Sarge, Crayne, and Li-Li run to an air=
plane. Li-Li covers Sarge's and Crayne's escape in the plane and we see her=
 presumably dead on the airstrip as they fly away to safety. Sarge fights b=
ack tears though he won't admit it.

"Sport of Judo" is a three-page piece by Frank McLaughlin narrated and star=
ring Sarge in which he talks about judo not as sport but as an effective se=
lf-defense approach and demonstrates techniques used to fend off a knife at=
tack.

I find the artwork of Montes & Bache very appealing, but I have to confess =
the storytelling is weak in places. Without captions, I'd have a very hard =
time following the action in a few places. This story features some good ch=
aracters, but there are few twists. This is the last issue of Sarge Steel t=
o have the "Private Detective" sub-title on the cover.

More to come.

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Sarge Steel #6 is dated November 1965. It features a cover Bill Montes and =
Rocke Mastroserio. This is the first issue of Sarge Steel to have the sub-t=
itle "Special Agent". The issue is written by Joe Gill and the art is again=
 by the team of Bill Montes and Ernie Bache.

Case #106 "Case of the King's Assassin" begins with an round of introductio=
ns to key characters. Specifically mentioned are King Abhim Fal-Rif a fabul=
ously rich Arab who is the target of kidnappers. Also mentioned is Bibi Can=
e a blonde American actress. Finally is Shiek Zara-Faid trained by both Mos=
cow and Peking and the enemy of Abhim, the man who wants him dead. The stor=
y begins in the city where a beautiful woman named Renshaw appears and enti=
ces Sarge who summarily dumps his date to meet this new beauty who takes hi=
m outside to encounter Hassim a rich oil merchant who wants to retain Sarge=
 to protect King Abhim. Immediately a car appears and bullets fly but Hassi=
m's car is bulletproof and when the attacking car gets in range Hassim uses=
 some unseen device to blow up the attackers. Despite Sarge telling Hassim =
twice he has been asked by the U.S. government to watch out for King Abhim =
Hassim still insists on hiring him. Sarge goes to the airport and is soon s=
et upon by more attackers who he dispatches quickly. He then meets Bibi Can=
e waiting for Abhim because she thinks he is cute. They head out to Abhim's=
 plane and introductions are made. Abhim seems quite taken by Bibi. Sarge k=
nows that agents are waiting to kidnap Abhim so he has the King disguise hi=
mself with a beret and sunglasses and with Bibi on his arm he walks right p=
ast the thugs waiting for him. But Sarge is not so lucky.

"New Old Ideas In Warfare" talks about the development of projectile weapon=
s from the earliest rocks thrown from a cliff to the sling to the modern cl=
uster bomb.

"Chase West" is the title of the second part of the Sarge Steel story and S=
arge finds himself battling thugs sent to kidnap King Abhim. He gets past t=
hem and joins up with Abhim and Bibi in his Jaguar and the trio drive away.=
 Later at Sarge's apartment they two get very familiar while Sarge watches =
the two. A shadow appears at the window following a mysterious phone call f=
rom Hassim who seems under duress. Sarge uses his steel fist to dispatch th=
e gunman and takes to the roof where a sniper lurks, but Sarge uses a detac=
hed TV antennae to knock the killer from the roof. When he returns to his a=
partment he finds Bibi and Abhim gone as well as his sports car. He alerts =
the police and a manhunt begins.

"$1,000,000,000 Ransom" is the title of the third installment and the story=
 begins with a plane over the stolen Jaguar with Bibi and Abhim inside. Sar=
ge gets cleaned up and heads out to intercept the duo after reports come in=
 as to their location and he arrives just in time as the plane begins to di=
ve and a gunman shoots at the escaping sports car. It wrecks but Bibi and A=
bhim seem unhurt as Sarge gets them to cover. He then pretends to be shot a=
nd the plane leaves. But as the trio try to leave the area they are stopped=
 at a roadblock by Zara's men. Just as Zara prepares to shoot Sarge a jet a=
ppears and sets up a smoke screen which Sarge uses to dispatch Zara's men a=
nd kill Zara. With the police on the way, the situation in hand Bibi and Ab=
him ask how they can get married without all the pomp and circumstance a Ki=
ng demands. Sarge shows them the road to Tiajuana and as the story closes h=
e heads to the White House where he is to make a full report as a special a=
gent.

"What Is Karate?" is a three-page piece by Frank McLaughlin and features ne=
w Charlton hero Judomaster giving basic information about Karate techniques=
, gear, and a very detailed presentation of various hand positions.

I adore the cover of this issue, but I have to confess it's one of the weak=
er issues to date. The romance between Abhim and Bibi is fun and funny but =
lacks enough time to develop to be really believable. Again there are no re=
al twists in this story and the storytelling by Montes & Bache is really de=
ficient in the story's climax. It's frankly impossible to tell what's going=
 on without the captions which seem at odds with the artwork. As a special =
agent, Sarge is more in the Bond school and maybe they were trying to add s=
ome humor. It doesn't work all that well I think.

More to come.=20

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Sarge Steel #7 is dated January 1966. Once again Pat Masulli's creator cred=
it is shown. The script is by reliable Joe Gill with lettering again by Jon=
 D'Agostino. The big news here is that Dick Giordano returns for an issue o=
n the artwork. The cover by Giordano is a version of the splash page with t=
he figures of the two masterminds of P.O.W. included.

Part I of File #107 "The Day They Killed Sarge Steel" begins with that spla=
sh image. But the story begins in London where Peter Potter top British sec=
ret agent is attacked in his sports car by a grenade and killed. The scene =
shifts to Moscow where top Sovie agent Gorgie Fyankov is shot down while es=
corting a prisoner. The scene shifts again to a list held by a beautiful bl=
onde woman named Roja who is holding a list called "POW Top Secret List of =
Elimination" with all the names on it crossed off save for Nicole Planchet =
of France and Sarge Steel of the U.S.A. She and her partner Eric Rinn run P=
.O.W. (Prosecutors Of the World) an organization of killers with the goal t=
o blackmail the powers of the world and show their power by killing all the=
 top espionage operatives. The scene shifts again to a helicopter pad where=
 Bessie witnesses her boss Sarge Steel being gunned down. The news gets out=
 Sarge was shot to death and pictures confirming that are taken and circula=
ted. News also comes that Nicole Planchet has died mysteriously from a pois=
on perfume. A man climbs the building holding Sarge's body to confirm his d=
eath, attempting to use the same gas that killed Planchet but Sarge jumps u=
p and punches him in the gut causing him to inhale the deadly fumes. It's r=
evealed that Sarge has been faking his death to give him free rein to chase=
 down the P.O.W. killers.

"The Gift of Two Deaths" is a one-page text piece about a man named Koshins=
ky who dies but who has his body preserved untouched for three days by his =
wife since she believes he carries a family habit of reviving from his firs=
t death. This gift was given to the family as a reward by an old woman for =
saving a peasant child from drowning. The story makes a sensation in the me=
dia and after the three days the man revives.

Part II is titled "Live Bait in the Shark Tank!" and opens with Sarge getti=
ng a ride on a C.I.A. reconnaissance jet which is to take him to the Wetter=
horn Valley. Sarge parachutes from a great height, lands safely and is imme=
diately set upon by a Doberman Pincher who turns out to be a "paradog" belo=
nging to Nicole Planchet who also faked her death to get at P.O.W. The trio=
 jump the electrified fence and and use gas to get close to the headquarter=
s. But they are caught and brought before Roja and Rinn where Sarge makes s=
ome insulting comments to Roja who is attracted to him. When she tries to s=
cratch him, he uses that moment to throw her into Rinn and he and Planchet =
escape.

Part III is titled "The Murder School" and begins with Sarge and Nicole con=
fronting a rifleman but Sarge stops him by using his steel fist to plug the=
 barrel causing a backfire. Then the pair encounter several killers with kn=
ives and guns and fend them off. Sarge leaps through a window to the outsid=
e creating a distraction while Nicole plants an explosive. With only second=
s to spare the pair leap off the cliff below the headquarters into the sea =
and a great explosion destroys the P.O.W. facility. After they get back to =
land Nicole gives Sarge a kiss to thank him on behalf of the whole human ra=
ce. The last two scenes show Sarge in Washington DC and confronting his sec=
retary Bessie who is quite upset to learn he has been alive all this time.

"Sport of Judo" is written and drawn by Frank McLaughlin and these three pa=
ges narrated by Sarge show how to use Judo, Karate, Hapkido, and Aikido tec=
hniques to battle multiple attackers.

This is a pretty good issue. One big change though is that Sarge's distinct=
ive first-person narration is not used in this issue. That might be because=
 of the ruse that he was supposed to be dead, but whatever the cause it rea=
lly altered the tone of the story. The villains were a bit of a disappointm=
ent, as they were set up pretty well but there wasn't enough space to reall=
y devote to their demise. They seemed to get beat rather easily. But that's=
 a minor criticism. They also didn't use the classic "The Case Of..." forma=
t for the title; that bugs the compulsive side of my character a wee bit.

More to come.=20

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Sarge Steel #8 is dated March-April 1966. Pat Masull [sic] is listed as the=
 creator, and clearly this is Pat Masulli's name mispelled which is stunnin=
g given he's the Executive Editor of Charlton at this time. Joe Gill is aga=
in scripting and Jon D'Agostino supplies the letters. Bill Montes and Ernie=
 Bache return for the art chores. The cover for this issue is by Rocke Mast=
roserio.

File #108 "Case of the Terrible Talon" begins with Part I "The Talon Takes =
Sarge Steel". After a symbolic splash showing Sarge shooting at a mechanica=
l talon, the story opens on a West German street where Professor Froelig is=
 kidnapped. In Dusseldorf two men discuss the crime and attribute it to The=
 Talon, a criminal mastermind terrorizing Germany. That evening a group of =
West German businessmen and other important types gather to plan a response=
 and agree that they need Sarge Steel to take on the Talon. A waiter overhe=
ars this decision. We cut to Sarge as he heads out to take on this assignme=
nt and Bessie gives him a big kiss before he goes. In the taxi on the way t=
o the airport he is met by a U.S. agent who tells him he's on his own. In t=
he air on the way to West Germany Sarge finds a mysterious talon symbol in =
the bottom of his coffee cup, an ominous sign indeed. After landing he is m=
et by Herr Wolffhundt who takes him to a cafe where the waitress pulls a gu=
n and other men show up using a stun gun to knock out Steel and kidnap Wolf=
fhundt. They leave a message on Steel's chest saying "Leave Germany or Die!=
". Sarge recovers and gets a car but as he leaves a beautiful redhead climb=
s into the passenger seat and presents herself as a West German agent. At t=
hat point a helicopter appears overhead.

"Tank Trouble" is a one-page text story about two WWII veterans, one Americ=
an and one German who meet at an agricultural show and realize they know on=
e another. They led men into battle during the war against one another and =
after the German leader had the advantage a clever tactic by the American r=
esulted in a defeat forcing the German officer to flee Nazi German or be ki=
lled. He made contact with American forces and surrendered.

Part II is titled "The Faceless Man" and begins with Sarge's car being pick=
ed up by a giant electric magnet suspended from a helicopter. The car and S=
arge and the German agent Gerta are taken to the Talon's headquarters in th=
e mountains of East Germany. There Sarge meets the masked Talon and is show=
n the scale of Talon's operation. After attacking an armored agent though S=
arge is again hit with the stun gun. He awakes strapped into a high-tech de=
vice dubbed the "Hypno Chair" which is used to gather information from him =
and defeat his free will. Sarge seems to succumb but when he is released he=
 attacks Talon and knocks out his savage dog with his steel fist. He uses a=
 device called the "Wailing Wallet" which emits tear gas to help him free G=
erta and the pair take their unconscious Talon out of the headquarters as h=
is men follow. Sarge then takes one of his shoes and throws it, and since t=
hat shoe is actually a delayed time bomb it explodes and allows them to esc=
ape in Sarge's Mercedes-Benz. That car is rigged with cannons on the front =
which they use to escape the Talon's compound.

Part III is titled "Trial of a Terrorist" and begins with Sarge and Gerta i=
n the Mercedes under fire from Talon's men. Sarge uses rear canons to stop =
pursuit. The helicopter appears overhead and begins firing radar-controlled=
 rockets at Sarge's car, but then a Messerschmitt Rocket Fighter appears di=
sabling the helicopter and allowing Gerta and Sarge and the prisoner to esc=
ape. They drive throught the East German border and deliver Talon to stand =
trial. As the trial begins the Talon, still masked, faces witnesses. Then w=
ord comes that his forces are coming to free him and a counter attack is or=
dered. A man wearing a rocketpack is stopped by Sarge and then a great meta=
l claw snags him and pulls him into the air but Sarge is able to use his ow=
n weapon to disable the helicopter that has captured him. Taking the rocket=
pack Sarge flies clear as the helicopter crashes. Then in a sudden turn of =
events, Sarge suggests they let Talon go free but spread the story that he =
betrayed his own men making him forever a fugitive from his own people. Tal=
on is sent packing as Sarge taunts the now helpless terrorist.

"Blue Four Top Secret" is a three-page feature drawn by Rocke Mastroserio i=
n which the gimmicks and devices featured in the main Sarge Steel story are=
 described in further detail. Shown and described are the "Wail Wallet", "T=
he Shoe", "The Stun Gun", "The Hypno Chair", and a full-page on the Talon-c=
opter the enemy agents used.

This is issue is fully devoted to the high-tech environment of the Bond-lik=
e super-spy world. Gone utterly is the noir atmosphere of previous issues. =
This is reinforced as again the first-person narration is absent. Sarge is =
here completely dependent on gimmicks and gadgets to fight the enemy who li=
kewise use a host of machines to wage battle. The helicopter is very like t=
he helicopter in You Only Live Twice though even more high-tech. The hypno =
chair scene reminded me of Goldfinger and the Mercedes-Benz was just anothe=
r version of Bond's Astin-Martin. Clearly the attempt is made, as is eviden=
t on the cover to play the super-spy angle to the hilt. It's a fun issue, b=
ut not quite as emotionally compelling as earlier installments of the serie=
s.

This is the last issue of the series to titled "Sarge Steel" but that's not=
 the end of Sarge yet.

More to come.=20

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Secret Agent (formerly Sarge Steel) Vol.2 #9 is dated October 1966. The cov=
er is by Dick Giordano and is a variation of the splash page by Montes & Ba=
che with Sarge in a more active role. The credits list Pat Masulli again as=
 creator, Joe Gill as storyteller, with pencils by Bill Montes, inks by Ern=
ie Bache, and letters by Jon D'Agostino.

Part I of File #109 "The Warmaker" begins with that splash featuring four r=
eturning Sarge Steel baddies and one new one. Back for another taste of the=
 steel fist are The Lynx, Ivan Chung (his third appearance), The Smiling Sk=
ull (his second Steel appearance but his third Charlton appearance), and We=
rner Von Hess (who only appears on the cover and the splash). The new badgu=
y is named Mister Ize, the guy with the wonky glasses. The story begins in =
a dojo where Sarge is sparring with another karate devotee when that guy su=
ddenly attacks Sarge for real trying to kill him. Sarge defeats him with th=
e steel fist, but when he tries to take a shower hot steam erupts from the =
nozzle and he is just able to save himself again. In the background of one =
panel is The Smiling Skull who as Sarge leaves the dojo reports to Mr.Ize. =
As Sarge is driving away Ivan Chung shows up alongside in another car and t=
ries to wreck Sarge's car, but Sarge is able to wreck Chung's by firing a .=
357 Magnum slug at him. As Sarge enters his apartment building, Mr.Ize and =
The Lynx sit outside in a car and follow him in, but after Ize calls Kapita=
n Werner Von Hess and tells him to keep his forces available for back up (t=
his is the only reference to Von Hess in the story and we never see him). M=
r.Ize uses his glasses to hypnotize the doorman and later he uses the specs=
 to burn open the lock on Sarge's door. When Sarge arrives he knows somethi=
ng is up but before he can do much Mr.Ize hypnotizes him and the gang of vi=
llains leaves with Sarge in their control.

Part II "The Looters" begins with a jet flying over a burning oil tank in t=
he country of Kuwania. The jet lands and Mr.Ize explains to Sarge that the =
fire was set with weapons to make the leader of Kuwania think his neighbors=
 attacked him from which Mr.Ize will profit. They next use gas to storm the=
 capitol city and take control of the palace to rob it apparently. Sarge fo=
llows orders and helps in the attack but during the gunplay a bullet ricoch=
ets and grazes his head and they assume he is dead, so he is left behind. H=
e awakes and the effects of Mr.Ize's gaze are gone. But Sarge is captured b=
y Kuwanians and imprisoned, but he quickly escapes by using sleeping gas hi=
dden in cigarettes. He gets to the airfield and uses his steel fist to bloc=
k bullets while he steals a plane and pursues Mr.Ize and his cohorts. Mr.Iz=
e uses his goggles to shoot Sarge down and he is recaptured but pretends to=
 still be under their influence and control as the whole gang uses a cargo =
plane to leave the area.

Part III "The Warmaker's Stronghold" is set in the Atlas Mountains where th=
e cargo plane touches down and unloads. Sarge still pretends to be in their=
 thrall, but is soon discovered by The Lynx as he tries to learn more, and =
she orders her big cat to attack him but Sarge dispatches the cat with one =
steel punch. The Smiling Skull shoots at Sarge but a running tackle takes h=
im out and likewise Ivan Chung is knocked out by a grenade which Sarge thro=
ws but doesn't have time to take the pin out of. He gets the drop on the ga=
ng and uses grenades to begin to blow up the facility but is confronted by =
Mr.Ize who again tries to hypnotize Sarge, as he does this he relates how h=
is power was developed while he trying to develop special glasses for surge=
ons and chanced on the hypnotic goggles which he immediately used to gather=
 up the thugs who told him that Sarge Steel was the one man they feared. Sa=
rge though at the last minute uses the mirrored surface of his steel fist t=
o reflect Mr.Ize's rays back to him and the villain has his own brain warpe=
d. Free of Ize's control the other villains immediately scatter and Sarge i=
s sure in time he as a special agent wil be able to gather them up so they =
can face justice.

"Sarge Steel's Scapbook Of Judo!" begins with a new splash page by Frank Mc=
Laughlin I suspect (though credit at GCD is given to Dick Giordano) with Sa=
rge and a boy explaining talking how the lessons from previous issues have =
shown the true nature of judo. After this splash are two reprints of earlie=
r "Sports of Judo" three-page features by Frank McLaughlin from previous Sa=
rge Steel issues.

Clearly the title change was an attempt to spike the sales on the series. T=
he cover advertises a really hair-raising adventure and there is lots of ac=
tion for sure. But the cheat on Von Hess is strange and even stranger since=
 he's on both the cover and the splash page when clearly he was never in th=
e story to begin with. Both Ivan Chung and Smiling Skull are diminished by =
their appearances here, two masterminds reduced to henchman duty. The Lynx =
gets enough space to seem threatening, but the other two not so much. Mr.Iz=
e is a neat weird villain who reminded me more than a bit of Doc Ock. One t=
hing of note is that the first-person narration dropped in the last two iss=
ues of Sarge Steel is back in this one and to good effect.

More to come.

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Secret Agent Volume 2 #10 is dated October 1967. This is full year after th=
e previous issue. Since that last issue Sarge Steel became a back-up featur=
e in Judomaster and also guest-starred in a few Thunderbolt issues. I've co=
vered the Judomaster appearances, and I'll get to the T-Bolt stuff in a lat=
er series. The cover is by Dick Giordano and the sub-title is "The Iron Man=
 with Steel Fist - Sarge Steel". The story is drawn by Dick Giordano, scrip=
ted by Steve Skeates, and lettered by D. Brazycki.

Part I of File #113 "The Case of the Third Hand" begins right in the middle=
 of the action as bullets are fired at Sarge and his date a lovely lady nam=
ed Linda Velvet. Sarge orders her to stay down as he tries to get at the sh=
ooter which he does, wounding the fellow but not before Linda is shot and s=
eriously hurt. Sarge rushes her to the hospital and after seeing to her and=
 making a report returns to the crime scene but is unable to identify the s=
niper. Filled with guilt he uses all his resources both official and unoffi=
cial to uncover the culprit, but he is shocked when his secretary Bessie te=
lls him he has a visitor, an old friend name Lowell Wade from the C.I.A. Wa=
de tells Sarge that Velvet was actually an informant for the spy ring "The =
Third Hand" and that was why she was shot. Sarge doesn't believe him, but t=
hen news comes that the hospital where Velvet is staying is under attack. S=
arge and Wade rush to the site, but are too late as Velvet has been killed =
by a gas grenade attack. Sarge vows to bring the villains to justice.

Part II "Photo Finish" begins with Sarge going to Velvet's apartment to inv=
estigate but he finds two thugs there already. After a struggle he is caugh=
t in a powerful bearhug by one of the thugs, a giant of a man and knocked o=
ut. When he comes to, he finds a beautiful woman kneeling over him. She is =
Sarah "Sally" Tempest and she claims to be a friend of Velvet's. The apartm=
ent has been ransacked. As they talk another man appears, a friend of Tempe=
st's named Hobart Jeffries. All three chat but then Sarge finds a clue a pi=
cture of a two-bit gunsel named Johnny Vance. Sarge goes to his own apartme=
nt to find it too has been ransacked but the interlopers are still there. T=
he take him at gunpoint to meet with Johnny Vance at his fancy home. After =
a few questions which Sarge refuses to answer Vance orders his men to attac=
k.

Part III "Blues for Linda" begins with Sarge getting punched around by Vanc=
e's thugs, but he turns the tables and using his superior skills defeats th=
e thugs, even getting to Vance who winces from a shoulder wound. Now Sarge =
knows that Vance was the man who shot Linda and is the man he had wounded. =
He knocks Vance out and heads back to his office having fully unlocked the =
secrets. He finds Sally Tempest in his office going through his desk and te=
lls her that he knows the whole story. She is the one involved with The Thi=
rd Hand and used Linda, playing on their friendship. She had used blackmail=
 to keep Johnny Vance at bay when he wanted her position in the organizatio=
n and there were documents she had that he wanted. Linda had them and when =
Vance had learned of her betrayal he had tried to shoot her. The documents =
were still missing though. While Sarge is relating this tale a hand appears=
 from nowhere and knocks him out. When he recovers he finds Hobart Jefferie=
s has arrived and it was Hobart who had killed Linda with the grenade at th=
e hospital. But Sarge is able get Sally to think that Hobart has betrayed h=
er and when she shoots him, Sarge is able to disarm her and turns her over =
to the authorities. Later he talks to Wade and shows him a Coney Island plu=
sh bunny which had been in his car and had belonged to Linda. The documents=
 were inside all the time. The story closes as Sarge somberly reflects on t=
he romance that might have been.

The back-up feature is Tiffany Sinn. Tiffany Sinn had two previous appearan=
ces in Career Girl Romances #38 and #39. The story is titled "Muscle Beach =
Style!". It's written by David A. Kaler and drawn by Jim Aparo. The tale be=
gins with the beautiful Tiffany preparing for a new case while reflecting o=
n her previous ones. As she finishes her make-up she is anxious to see what=
 the latest C.I.A. caper will bring. She flies to California and on the fli=
ght is given her briefing papers by the stewardess and later is given more =
information by a cabbie. She is to uncover how vital fuel formulas are bein=
g stolen and transmitted to foreign agents. After a night's sleep and a sho=
wer she begins her new job at the laboratory and meets Aldo Bateman a hands=
ome fellow who immediately begins to woo Tiffany. They begin to date and he=
 takes her to the beach where she gets some sun while he goes through a met=
iculous and rigorous exercise regimen. They date a few more times, each dat=
e the same. The agency decides to plant some bait and announces a new formu=
la. Tiffany notices that Aldo is very interested in this new information an=
d on their next date, again at the beach she notes that his exerices regime=
n, to that time very rigid, was extremely different. She takes note that so=
me men with binoculars are closely watching Aldo as he goes through his mov=
es. Aldo notices her keen interest and suspicious as she attempts to report=
 grabs her up and attempts to carry her out to the surf where he plans to d=
rown her. Others at the beach think they are just two playful lovers and ig=
nore Tiffany's struggles. At last she uses her judo skills to defeat Aldo a=
nd drags him back to the beach. It seems his exercises were a complex code =
he used to to transmit the secret information. He is arrested and Tiffany t=
ries to dry off and rest on the beach. Her bosses want her to come back in =
report but she says she can't with hair such a mess.

And that completes the run of Sarge Steel/Secret Agent comics. This is a so=
lid issue with a return of the series to a more detective/noir feel. The fi=
rst-person narration adds to that feel as does the real emotion Sarge seems=
 to feel for Linda. While he is doubtless a cad, Sarge does seem to have so=
me feelings for the women in his life and that has been missing in some of =
the previous issues. Steve Skeates is pretty wordy in this one, the explana=
tion requiring a lot of exposition. The twists are here, but they are a bit=
 difficult to follow if you don't read carefully. The maguffin is discovere=
d at the end, but there was not really any real foreshadowing of its ultima=
te location as there might've been in a tighter mystery story. The Tiffany =
Sinn story was a lot of fun. Jim Aparo was a dang fine artist and his skill=
s as a storyteller are well on display here. As I said Sarge Steel shows up=
 in the back of Judomaster and in Thunderbolt. I'll get around to those Thu=
nderbolt appearances in a later series.

For now no more to come.=20

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Rip.
Do you suppose this story was in inventory for a while?=C2=A0 It seems odd,=
 even for Charlton, to revive the Secret Agent series for one last issue.=
=C2=A0 About 6 months after this, Dick Giordano moved to DC and then severa=
l writers followed him, including Steve Skeates.
Thanks,
Darci




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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 3:26:40 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Sarge Steel Reports - File #113

=C2=A0=20
Secret Agent Volume 2 #10 is dated October 1967. This is full year after th=
e previous issue. Since that last issue Sarge Steel became a back-up featur=
e in Judomaster and also guest-starred in a few Thunderbolt issues. I've co=
vered the Judomaster appearances, and I'll get to the T-Bolt stuff in a lat=
er series. The cover is by Dick Giordano and the sub-title is "The Iron Man=
 with Steel Fist - Sarge Steel". The story is drawn by Dick Giordano, scrip=
ted by Steve Skeates, and lettered by D. Brazycki.

Part I of File #113 "The Case of the Third Hand" begins right in the middle=
 of the action as bullets are fired at Sarge and his date a lovely lady nam=
ed Linda Velvet. Sarge orders her to stay down as he tries to get at the sh=
ooter which he does, wounding the fellow but not before Linda is shot and s=
eriously hurt. Sarge rushes her to the hospital and after seeing to her and=
 making a report returns to the crime scene but is unable to identify the s=
niper. Filled with guilt he uses all his resources both official and unoffi=
cial to uncover the culprit, but he is shocked when his secretary Bessie te=
lls him he has a visitor, an old friend name Lowell Wade from the C.I.A. Wa=
de tells Sarge that Velvet was actually an informant for the spy ring "The =
Third Hand" and that was why she was shot. Sarge doesn't believe him, but t=
hen news comes that the hospital where Velvet is staying is under attack. S=
arge and Wade rush to the site, but are too late as Velvet has been
 killed by a gas grenade attack. Sarge vows to bring the villains to justic=
e.

Part II "Photo Finish" begins with Sarge going to Velvet's apartment to inv=
estigate but he finds two thugs there already. After a struggle he is caugh=
t in a powerful bearhug by one of the thugs, a giant of a man and knocked o=
ut. When he comes to, he finds a beautiful woman kneeling over him. She is =
Sarah "Sally" Tempest and she claims to be a friend of Velvet's. The apartm=
ent has been ransacked. As they talk another man appears, a friend of Tempe=
st's named Hobart Jeffries. All three chat but then Sarge finds a clue a pi=
cture of a two-bit gunsel named Johnny Vance. Sarge goes to his own apartme=
nt to find it too has been ransacked but the interlopers are still there. T=
he take him at gunpoint to meet with Johnny Vance at his fancy home. After =
a few questions which Sarge refuses to answer Vance orders his men to attac=
k.

Part III "Blues for Linda" begins with Sarge getting punched around by Vanc=
e's thugs, but he turns the tables and using his superior skills defeats th=
e thugs, even getting to Vance who winces from a shoulder wound. Now Sarge =
knows that Vance was the man who shot Linda and is the man he had wounded. =
He knocks Vance out and heads back to his office having fully unlocked the =
secrets. He finds Sally Tempest in his office going through his desk and te=
lls her that he knows the whole story. She is the one involved with The Thi=
rd Hand and used Linda, playing on their friendship. She had used blackmail=
 to keep Johnny Vance at bay when he wanted her position in the organizatio=
n and there were documents she had that he wanted. Linda had them and when =
Vance had learned of her betrayal he had tried to shoot her. The documents =
were still missing though. While Sarge is relating this tale a hand appears=
 from nowhere and knocks him out. When he recovers he finds Hobart
 Jefferies has arrived and it was Hobart who had killed Linda with the gren=
ade at the hospital. But Sarge is able get Sally to think that Hobart has b=
etrayed her and when she shoots him, Sarge is able to disarm her and turns =
her over to the authorities. Later he talks to Wade and shows him a Coney I=
sland plush bunny which had been in his car and had belonged to Linda. The =
documents were inside all the time. The story closes as Sarge somberly refl=
ects on the romance that might have been.

The back-up feature is Tiffany Sinn. Tiffany Sinn had two previous appearan=
ces in Career Girl Romances #38 and #39. The story is titled "Muscle Beach =
Style!". It's written by David A. Kaler and drawn by Jim Aparo. The tale be=
gins with the beautiful Tiffany preparing for a new case while reflecting o=
n her previous ones. As she finishes her make-up she is anxious to see what=
 the latest C.I.A. caper will bring. She flies to California and on the fli=
ght is given her briefing papers by the stewardess and later is given more =
information by a cabbie. She is to uncover how vital fuel formulas are bein=
g stolen and transmitted to foreign agents. After a night's sleep and a sho=
wer she begins her new job at the laboratory and meets Aldo Bateman a hands=
ome fellow who immediately begins to woo Tiffany. They begin to date and he=
 takes her to the beach where she gets some sun while he goes through a met=
iculous and rigorous exercise regimen. They date a few more times,
 each date the same. The agency decides to plant some bait and announces a =
new formula. Tiffany notices that Aldo is very interested in this new infor=
mation and on their next date, again at the beach she notes that his exeric=
es regimen, to that time very rigid, was extremely different. She takes not=
e that some men with binoculars are closely watching Aldo as he goes throug=
h his moves. Aldo notices her keen interest and suspicious as she attempts =
to report grabs her up and attempts to carry her out to the surf where he p=
lans to drown her. Others at the beach think they are just two playful love=
rs and ignore Tiffany's struggles. At last she uses her judo skills to defe=
at Aldo and drags him back to the beach. It seems his exercises were a comp=
lex code he used to to transmit the secret information. He is arrested and =
Tiffany tries to dry off and rest on the beach. Her bosses want her to come=
 back in report but she says she can't with hair such a mess.

And that completes the run of Sarge Steel/Secret Agent comics. This is a so=
lid issue with a return of the series to a more detective/noir feel. The fi=
rst-person narration adds to that feel as does the real emotion Sarge seems=
 to feel for Linda. While he is doubtless a cad, Sarge does seem to have so=
me feelings for the women in his life and that has been missing in some of =
the previous issues. Steve Skeates is pretty wordy in this one, the explana=
tion requiring a lot of exposition. The twists are here, but they are a bit=
 difficult to follow if you don't read carefully. The maguffin is discovere=
d at the end, but there was not really any real foreshadowing of its ultima=
te location as there might've been in a tighter mystery story. The Tiffany =
Sinn story was a lot of fun. Jim Aparo was a dang fine artist and his skill=
s as a storyteller are well on display here. As I said Sarge Steel shows up=
 in the back of Judomaster and in Thunderbolt. I'll get around to
 those Thunderbolt appearances in a later series.

For now no more to come.=20

Rip Off





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The numbering of the file makes it seem that it was produced during the bac=
k-up run in Judomaster, so I don't really think this was some old story wai=
ting to get out. The final file number in the back ups is #115 so two more =
stories seem to follow this one. Rather I think there was some buzz over th=
e appearances in the back of Judomaster, folks wanting to see Sarge return =
in his own book and this was a try out for that. Bringing Sarge back was me=
ntioned a lot in letters pages throughout the Charlton line.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
>
> Rip.
> Do you suppose this story was in inventory for a while?=C2=A0 It seems od=
d, even for Charlton, to revive the Secret Agent series for one last issue.=
=C2=A0 About 6 months after this, Dick Giordano moved to DC and then severa=
l writers followed him, including Steve Skeates.
> Thanks,
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 3:26:40 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Sarge Steel Reports - File #113
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> Secret Agent Volume 2 #10 is dated October 1967. This is full year after =
the previous issue. Since that last issue Sarge Steel became a back-up feat=
ure in Judomaster and also guest-starred in a few Thunderbolt issues. I've =
covered the Judomaster appearances, and I'll get to the T-Bolt stuff in a l=
ater series. The cover is by Dick Giordano and the sub-title is "The Iron M=
an with Steel Fist - Sarge Steel". The story is drawn by Dick Giordano, scr=
ipted by Steve Skeates, and lettered by D. Brazycki.
>=20
> Part I of File #113 "The Case of the Third Hand" begins right in the midd=
le of the action as bullets are fired at Sarge and his date a lovely lady n=
amed Linda Velvet. Sarge orders her to stay down as he tries to get at the =
shooter which he does, wounding the fellow but not before Linda is shot and=
 seriously hurt. Sarge rushes her to the hospital and after seeing to her a=
nd making a report returns to the crime scene but is unable to identify the=
 sniper. Filled with guilt he uses all his resources both official and unof=
ficial to uncover the culprit, but he is shocked when his secretary Bessie =
tells him he has a visitor, an old friend name Lowell Wade from the C.I.A. =
Wade tells Sarge that Velvet was actually an informant for the spy ring "Th=
e Third Hand" and that was why she was shot. Sarge doesn't believe him, but=
 then news comes that the hospital where Velvet is staying is under attack.=
 Sarge and Wade rush to the site, but are too late as Velvet has been
>  killed by a gas grenade attack. Sarge vows to bring the villains to just=
ice.
>=20
> Part II "Photo Finish" begins with Sarge going to Velvet's apartment to i=
nvestigate but he finds two thugs there already. After a struggle he is cau=
ght in a powerful bearhug by one of the thugs, a giant of a man and knocked=
 out. When he comes to, he finds a beautiful woman kneeling over him. She i=
s Sarah "Sally" Tempest and she claims to be a friend of Velvet's. The apar=
tment has been ransacked. As they talk another man appears, a friend of Tem=
pest's named Hobart Jeffries. All three chat but then Sarge finds a clue a =
picture of a two-bit gunsel named Johnny Vance. Sarge goes to his own apart=
ment to find it too has been ransacked but the interlopers are still there.=
 The take him at gunpoint to meet with Johnny Vance at his fancy home. Afte=
r a few questions which Sarge refuses to answer Vance orders his men to att=
ack.
>=20
> Part III "Blues for Linda" begins with Sarge getting punched around by Va=
nce's thugs, but he turns the tables and using his superior skills defeats =
the thugs, even getting to Vance who winces from a shoulder wound. Now Sarg=
e knows that Vance was the man who shot Linda and is the man he had wounded=
. He knocks Vance out and heads back to his office having fully unlocked th=
e secrets. He finds Sally Tempest in his office going through his desk and =
tells her that he knows the whole story. She is the one involved with The T=
hird Hand and used Linda, playing on their friendship. She had used blackma=
il to keep Johnny Vance at bay when he wanted her position in the organizat=
ion and there were documents she had that he wanted. Linda had them and whe=
n Vance had learned of her betrayal he had tried to shoot her. The document=
s were still missing though. While Sarge is relating this tale a hand appea=
rs from nowhere and knocks him out. When he recovers he finds Hobart
>  Jefferies has arrived and it was Hobart who had killed Linda with the gr=
enade at the hospital. But Sarge is able get Sally to think that Hobart has=
 betrayed her and when she shoots him, Sarge is able to disarm her and turn=
s her over to the authorities. Later he talks to Wade and shows him a Coney=
 Island plush bunny which had been in his car and had belonged to Linda. Th=
e documents were inside all the time. The story closes as Sarge somberly re=
flects on the romance that might have been.
>=20
> The back-up feature is Tiffany Sinn. Tiffany Sinn had two previous appear=
ances in Career Girl Romances #38 and #39. The story is titled "Muscle Beac=
h Style!". It's written by David A. Kaler and drawn by Jim Aparo. The tale =
begins with the beautiful Tiffany preparing for a new case while reflecting=
 on her previous ones. As she finishes her make-up she is anxious to see wh=
at the latest C.I.A. caper will bring. She flies to California and on the f=
light is given her briefing papers by the stewardess and later is given mor=
e information by a cabbie. She is to uncover how vital fuel formulas are be=
ing stolen and transmitted to foreign agents. After a night's sleep and a s=
hower she begins her new job at the laboratory and meets Aldo Bateman a han=
dsome fellow who immediately begins to woo Tiffany. They begin to date and =
he takes her to the beach where she gets some sun while he goes through a m=
eticulous and rigorous exercise regimen. They date a few more times,
>  each date the same. The agency decides to plant some bait and announces =
a new formula. Tiffany notices that Aldo is very interested in this new inf=
ormation and on their next date, again at the beach she notes that his exer=
ices regimen, to that time very rigid, was extremely different. She takes n=
ote that some men with binoculars are closely watching Aldo as he goes thro=
ugh his moves. Aldo notices her keen interest and suspicious as she attempt=
s to report grabs her up and attempts to carry her out to the surf where he=
 plans to drown her. Others at the beach think they are just two playful lo=
vers and ignore Tiffany's struggles. At last she uses her judo skills to de=
feat Aldo and drags him back to the beach. It seems his exercises were a co=
mplex code he used to to transmit the secret information. He is arrested an=
d Tiffany tries to dry off and rest on the beach. Her bosses want her to co=
me back in report but she says she can't with hair such a mess.
>=20
> And that completes the run of Sarge Steel/Secret Agent comics. This is a =
solid issue with a return of the series to a more detective/noir feel. The =
first-person narration adds to that feel as does the real emotion Sarge see=
ms to feel for Linda. While he is doubtless a cad, Sarge does seem to have =
some feelings for the women in his life and that has been missing in some o=
f the previous issues. Steve Skeates is pretty wordy in this one, the expla=
nation requiring a lot of exposition. The twists are here, but they are a b=
it difficult to follow if you don't read carefully. The maguffin is discove=
red at the end, but there was not really any real foreshadowing of its ulti=
mate location as there might've been in a tighter mystery story. The Tiffan=
y Sinn story was a lot of fun. Jim Aparo was a dang fine artist and his ski=
lls as a storyteller are well on display here. As I said Sarge Steel shows =
up in the back of Judomaster and in Thunderbolt. I'll get around to
>  those Thunderbolt appearances in a later series.
>=20
> For now no more to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
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>=20
>=20
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Did you ever stumble across a book and wonder why you did not all ready hav=
e a copy?

I did that the other day when I found The Nightstand Chillers from Vanguard=
 Productions. It's a collection of stories and some few article by and abou=
t Pat Boyette, the late great comic artist who also dabbled in TV and movie=
s.

I've seen this online before, but forgot about it. When I found it again th=
e other day while doing some Charlton research, I discovered it had some vi=
ntage Charlton stories in addition to other things. I immediately craved a =
copy and found it at Amazon. I bookmarked it, planning to get a copy soon.

Well a friend wanted to head up the local comics shop and despite the fact =
nothing new was in that I wanted I tagged along. While prowling the back is=
sues I remembered the Boyette volume and looked for it. Ta-Da! I found a co=
py for cover and scarfed it up. It's pretty sweet, with B&W reprints of Boy=
ette stories (a format he is actually better in) and some few articles. The=
 typesetting on some of the stuff is pretty lame and there's at least one g=
laring typo when a quote is attributed to a guy named "Gray Marrow". I can =
only assume that this is Gray Morrow and that spell check overwhelmed good =
sense here. (I have to say though, that Gray Marrow is a funky name.) How t=
hat boner gets into print is beyond me, but such is the nature of the small=
 press.

I'm still sorting out where the stories originate from, as that info is not=
 really forthcoming. There are in addition to stories some poster shots and=
 spot illustrations. I spotted a page from Atlas-Seaboard's Weird Suspense =
and there's an image of Vampirella included. There's an interview with Boye=
tte and a review of Dungeon of Harrow his horror movie, both very good and =
informative.

All in all a great tome for Charlton fanboys and especially for Boyette fan=
s.=20

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I want to thank you guys for the recommendation to use Robin Snyder to get =
hold of this great Charlton reprint package.=20

I ordered both the third Ditko package and The Lonely One, a Konga reprint =
I've been hankering after for years.=20

Both arrived yesterday in outstanding condition along with some extra goodi=
es Snyder tossed in. This is the kind of great service that will bring me b=
ack for more.=20

And what's more it's looking like I might get a snow day today and be off t=
o enjoy these great tomes. Looking forward to reading them.

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Back in the latter part of 1965 Charlton was trying to add onto its stable =
of "superheroes". They had Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and Son of Vulcan. Th=
ey gave Pete Morisi, then a moonlighting policeman who hid his identity und=
er the pseudonym of "P.A.M." a stab at doing a hero. The result was Thunder=
bolt.

Thunderbolt Vol.1 #1 is dated January 1966. It's incredibly unusual that Ch=
arlton actually debuted a comic with a #1 issue. They must've thought they =
had something special with Thunderbolt. The splash introduction is drawn by=
 Morisi and features the heroes Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and Son of Vulca=
n surrounding an announcement from Pat Masulli, the Editor of Charlton hera=
lding the arrival of Thunderbolt.

Special Case Number 0001 from Thunderbolt's Personal Files "Origin of an Av=
enger" lists only P.A.M. as the creator and artist. The double splash shows=
 T-Bolt facing off against a Tyrannosaurus Rex with a spread of panels bene=
ath showcasing Thunderbolt, The Hooded One, A scar-faced thug we'll eventua=
lly know as Dum-Dum Barnes, and the T-Rex itself.

The story actually begins on page four in the Himalayas at a secluded lamas=
ery where Peter Cannon faces a test put before him by the his masters. As h=
e faces three doors he reflects back on how he came to be here. He thinks b=
ack to when he was a baby and his parents, two missionaries find refuge in =
the lamasery when the plagues rips through the region. While there his pare=
nts sacrifice themselves to help others survive the plague. As a reward for=
 their courage Peter is taken in and trained by the priests to ultimately r=
eceive their highest gift, the Ancient Scrolls. This doesn't sit well with =
the Hooded One who had to that time been on track to get the Scrolls. We se=
e some of Peter's endless training through the years and we see him meet Ta=
bu, a boy the priests adopt after he's orphaned. Finally Peter is given the=
 scrolls which will open the untapped nine-tenths of his mind which most pe=
ople never use and he is given a final test, a test of three doors.

That brings the story back to the present as the first of the doors open an=
d Peter finds himself facing five deadly archers. He leaps over the fatal a=
rrows by pure will saying "I can do it...I must do it...I will do it!". The=
 challenges behind two of the doors it seems have been selected by the Hood=
ed One. The second door opens and a tiger emerges.

The story is interrupted at this point by a one page text piece titled "The=
 Dream Camera" which speculates how the world of entertainment would be alt=
ered by a machine that would record a person's dreams. This dream camera wo=
uld make impossible images cheap to film and the article urges that such a =
camera be built soon.

Peter faces off against the tiger and through will and tenacity defeats the=
 beast. He then uses his powerful mind to stop his bleeding and suppress th=
e pain caused by the tiger. The third door is now open and he sees beyond i=
t merely the outside of the lamasery. The priest tells him that his destiny=
 is to return to his parents' world, the United States and take his gifts w=
ith him (which include his distinctive belt and some diamonds). Tabu agrees=
 to come with him.

Quickly the scene changes and we see Peter buying a secluded mansion infamo=
us for its secret passages. Peter and Tabu then set up housekeeping with Pe=
ter expressing a desire to remove himself from the world. But the arrival o=
f giant dinosaur eggs at a local museum are a shock to the curators and the=
 world. The Hooded One listens to news reports of the find in his cavernous=
 abode and reveals that he sent the eggs to the museum after digging them o=
ut of the frozen wall which contains many prehistoric creatures.

The Hooded One then uses his impressive mental powers to overcome the will =
of Dum-Dum Barnes a local hood and he has Barnes and his men slip into the =
museum and see to it that the eggs are hatched. Two Tyrannosaurus Rex grow =
quickly from the eggs and begin to menace the city. Peter and Tabu hear the=
 reports on television and Peter wants to help but is reluctant to give up =
his privacy. Tabu suggests he hide his identity so they use Peter's old tra=
ining togs, add the belt and boots and a mask and a new dynamic and mysteri=
ous figure runs though the secret passageways to the city.

When Peter arrives he assesses the situation and goes to a dynamite shack t=
o get some TNT which he then uses to slay one of the two dinosaurs. Barnes =
and his men see the attack while they are looting during the T-Rex attacks.=
 Peter sees them and as a thunderstorm erupts and lightning flashes he atta=
cks the scavengers. Barnes runs away to a rooftop but is startled by the ot=
her T-Rex and falls to his death. Peter confronts the beast and throws the =
entire box of dynamite into his maw blowing off the head of the massive din=
osaur.

A reporter sees this struggle and dubs the mystery man "Thunderbolt" inspir=
ed by a policeman's comment that Peter appeared "like a bolt of thunder". T=
he next day reports talk of Thunderbolt's efforts to save the city. Meanwhi=
le the Hooded One threatens he's only begun his revenge. Peter and Tabu tal=
k about the report and if there will be another time for him, and Peter end=
s on the notion that they will just have to wait and see.

There is a final panel from the editors wanting to know what readers think =
of this new hero.

"The Mercenaries" is a three-page comics story with art by Ernie Bache focu=
sing on the role soldiers of fortune play in the world's wars, and seems to=
 conclude that professionals of this type are a moderating influence on the=
 act of war.

And that's the debut of Thunderbolt. It's an exciting issue, filled with Pe=
te Morisi's distinctive and seductive artwork. Clearly there is an attempt =
to make Peter Cannon a reluctant hero, but a man nonetheless inspired by hi=
s parents and his training to help his fellow man. His gifts are vague, but=
 he seems by sheer dint of will to be able to accomplish most anything he d=
esires to do within the upper limits of human experience. His mantra of "I =
can do it...I must do it...I will do it!" is repeated several times in the =
tale, and points to the theme that a man is only limited by his perseveranc=
e and effort.

There will be more to come.

Rip Off


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Hey, I wouldn't steer you wrong, Rip! I'm glad you had a good experience.

That Konga reprint is on my wish list, too. I just ordered "Steve Ditko's S=
tatic" from Robin, but maybe I'll get Konga next.

Bruce




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> I want to thank you guys for the recommendation to use Robin Snyder to ge=
t hold of this great Charlton reprint package.=20
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> I ordered both the third Ditko package and The Lonely One, a Konga reprin=
t I've been hankering after for years.=20
>=20
> Both arrived yesterday in outstanding condition along with some extra goo=
dies Snyder tossed in. This is the kind of great service that will bring me=
 back for more.=20
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> And what's more it's looking like I might get a snow day today and be off=
 to enjoy these great tomes. Looking forward to reading them.
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A nice recap.=C2=A0 Morisi's writing style was different enough from the re=
st of the Charlton writers that Thunderbolt seemed a little offbeat by comp=
arison, even though T-Bolt himself used powers aided by his training in a m=
onastery, and had an Indian/Tibetan assistant.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0001
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 4:29 AM


=C2=A0=20



Back in the latter part of 1965 Charlton was trying to add onto its stable =
of "superheroes" . They had Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and Son of Vulcan. T=
hey gave Pete Morisi, then a moonlighting policeman who hid his identity un=
der the pseudonym of "P.A.M." a stab at doing a hero. The result was Thunde=
rbolt.

Thunderbolt Vol.1 #1 is dated January 1966. It's incredibly unusual that Ch=
arlton actually debuted a comic with a #1 issue. They must've thought they =
had something special with Thunderbolt. The splash introduction is drawn by=
 Morisi and features the heroes Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, and Son of Vulca=
n surrounding an announcement from Pat Masulli, the Editor of Charlton hera=
lding the arrival of Thunderbolt.

Special Case Number 0001 from Thunderbolt' s Personal Files "Origin of an A=
venger" lists only P.A.M. as the creator and artist. The double splash show=
s T-Bolt facing off against a Tyrannosaurus Rex with a spread of panels ben=
eath showcasing Thunderbolt, The Hooded One, A scar-faced thug we'll eventu=
ally know as Dum-Dum Barnes, and the T-Rex itself.

The story actually begins on page four in the Himalayas at a secluded lamas=
ery where Peter Cannon faces a test put before him by the his masters. As h=
e faces three doors he reflects back on how he came to be here. He thinks b=
ack to when he was a baby and his parents, two missionaries find refuge in =
the lamasery when the plagues rips through the region. While there his pare=
nts sacrifice themselves to help others survive the plague. As a reward for=
 their courage Peter is taken in and trained by the priests to ultimately r=
eceive their highest gift, the Ancient Scrolls. This doesn't sit well with =
the Hooded One who had to that time been on track to get the Scrolls. We se=
e some of Peter's endless training through the years and we see him meet Ta=
bu, a boy the priests adopt after he's orphaned. Finally Peter is given the=
 scrolls which will open the untapped nine-tenths of his mind which most pe=
ople never use and he is given a final test, a test of three doors.

That brings the story back to the present as the first of the doors open an=
d Peter finds himself facing five deadly archers. He leaps over the fatal a=
rrows by pure will saying "I can do it...I must do it...I will do it!". The=
 challenges behind two of the doors it seems have been selected by the Hood=
ed One. The second door opens and a tiger emerges.

The story is interrupted at this point by a one page text piece titled "The=
 Dream Camera" which speculates how the world of entertainment would be alt=
ered by a machine that would record a person's dreams. This dream camera wo=
uld make impossible images cheap to film and the article urges that such a =
camera be built soon.

Peter faces off against the tiger and through will and tenacity defeats the=
 beast. He then uses his powerful mind to stop his bleeding and suppress th=
e pain caused by the tiger. The third door is now open and he sees beyond i=
t merely the outside of the lamasery. The priest tells him that his destiny=
 is to return to his parents' world, the United States and take his gifts w=
ith him (which include his distinctive belt and some diamonds). Tabu agrees=
 to come with him.

Quickly the scene changes and we see Peter buying a secluded mansion infamo=
us for its secret passages. Peter and Tabu then set up housekeeping with Pe=
ter expressing a desire to remove himself from the world. But the arrival o=
f giant dinosaur eggs at a local museum are a shock to the curators and the=
 world. The Hooded One listens to news reports of the find in his cavernous=
 abode and reveals that he sent the eggs to the museum after digging them o=
ut of the frozen wall which contains many prehistoric creatures.

The Hooded One then uses his impressive mental powers to overcome the will =
of Dum-Dum Barnes a local hood and he has Barnes and his men slip into the =
museum and see to it that the eggs are hatched. Two Tyrannosaurus Rex grow =
quickly from the eggs and begin to menace the city. Peter and Tabu hear the=
 reports on television and Peter wants to help but is reluctant to give up =
his privacy. Tabu suggests he hide his identity so they use Peter's old tra=
ining togs, add the belt and boots and a mask and a new dynamic and mysteri=
ous figure runs though the secret passageways to the city.

When Peter arrives he assesses the situation and goes to a dynamite shack t=
o get some TNT which he then uses to slay one of the two dinosaurs. Barnes =
and his men see the attack while they are looting during the T-Rex attacks.=
 Peter sees them and as a thunderstorm erupts and lightning flashes he atta=
cks the scavengers. Barnes runs away to a rooftop but is startled by the ot=
her T-Rex and falls to his death. Peter confronts the beast and throws the =
entire box of dynamite into his maw blowing off the head of the massive din=
osaur.

A reporter sees this struggle and dubs the mystery man "Thunderbolt" inspir=
ed by a policeman's comment that Peter appeared "like a bolt of thunder". T=
he next day reports talk of Thunderbolt' s efforts to save the city. Meanwh=
ile the Hooded One threatens he's only begun his revenge. Peter and Tabu ta=
lk about the report and if there will be another time for him, and Peter en=
ds on the notion that they will just have to wait and see.

There is a final panel from the editors wanting to know what readers think =
of this new hero.

"The Mercenaries" is a three-page comics story with art by Ernie Bache focu=
sing on the role soldiers of fortune play in the world's wars, and seems to=
 conclude that professionals of this type are a moderating influence on the=
 act of war.

And that's the debut of Thunderbolt. It's an exciting issue, filled with Pe=
te Morisi's distinctive and seductive artwork. Clearly there is an attempt =
to make Peter Cannon a reluctant hero, but a man nonetheless inspired by hi=
s parents and his training to help his fellow man. His gifts are vague, but=
 he seems by sheer dint of will to be able to accomplish most anything he d=
esires to do within the upper limits of human experience. His mantra of "I =
can do it...I must do it...I will do it!" is repeated several times in the =
tale, and points to the theme that a man is only limited by his perseveranc=
e and effort.

There will be more to come.

Rip Off









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The second issue of Thunderbolt is actually numbered #51. It's Volume 3 of =
the title formerly known as Son of Vulcan which itself had been known for m=
ost of its run as Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. That the former title was=
 Son of Vulcan is indicated in the indicia, not always something that happe=
ned. The book is dated March-April 1966. The story and art is by Thunderbol=
t's creator Pete Morisi at this time operating under the pseudonym P.A.M.

Special Case Number 0002 from Thunderbolt's Personal Files is titled "The E=
vil that is Evila!". After a one-page reprise of T-Bolt's origin, the story=
 begins properly in the Himalayas in the lamasery where Peter Cannon was tr=
ained. The Hooded One is being chastised and cast out of the lamasery becau=
se of his criminal behavior. As he leaves he reflects how he had originally=
 earned the right to study the Ancient Scrolls for an act of heroism where =
he carried an unexploded bomb from a crashed aircraft away. He was severely=
 injured, losing part of his face which is the reason he hides it behind th=
e hood. He also indicates that he had begun some limited study of the Ancie=
nt Scrolls before Cannon supplanted him. The Hooded One returns to his Ice =
Cave, a weird place filled with frozen dinosaurs in the bowels of an extinc=
t volcano. There he plots and plans to revive the Princess Evila, sorceress=
 of the Nile.

Meanwhile at a museum far away Professor Henry Karl has called in two exper=
ts to help him to identify a sarcophagus recently uncovered in Luxor. The t=
wo experts are Peter Cannon and Dan Garrett (also known as the Blue Beetle)=
. They identify the inhabitant of the sarcophagus as Princess Evila. After =
they leave Karl is overcome by a mental attack from the Hooded One who stea=
ls his will. He orders Karl to use a rare poition in a vial in the sarcopha=
gus to revive Princess Evila. The black-haired beauty does indeed revive an=
d she takes over the mind of Karl herself and they disappear. Peter Cannon =
and Tabu read of this odd occurrence and plan to call the police to inquire=
.

The story is interrupted at this point by a one-page text piece titled "Phy=
salia Physalis" which tells the story of giant twenty-foot Portuguese Man-o=
f-War which threaten an island. The threat is forestalled by killing the ve=
getation which has triggered the monsters.

In a boxing bout Peter and Tabu debate what they should do. They realize th=
at the Hooded One might be involved given his access to the Ancient Scrolls=
. Meanwhile Evila has assembled a small army of thugs and criminals and the=
y begin a massive crime wave. Peter Cannon is reluctant to leave his reclus=
ive life to fight, but ultimately is convinced by Tabu and Thunderbolt runs=
 into the fray though the mansion's secret passageways. Heading into the ci=
ty T-Bolt finds plenty of criminal activity and using his physical skills p=
uts some of it down. But one thug escapes and he follows finding Princess E=
vila's lair where he sees her take the thug who has just returned and steal=
 his mind. Thunderbolt tears into the mob of criminals and fights using his=
 skills to the utmost. Chasing Evila he pursues her through many traps incl=
uding "Darts of Death", "Spears of Flame", and "Daggers of Doom". Confronti=
ng her, she hits a switch releasing a hidden panel that drops T-Bolt into t=
he water below where he is confronted with a crocodile. He subdues the croc=
odile and swims back to confront Evila again. They lock eyes and wills but =
it is Thunderbolt who ultimately wins, breaking Evila who ages dramatically=
 and becomes again a mere mummy.

Finding Professor Karl, the two men take the mummy and leave just as a bomb=
 destroys the hidden headquarters. The newspapers the next day trumpet Thun=
derbolt's victory. In his Ice Cave the Hooded One vows to threaten Thunderb=
olt again. At the mansion Peter and Tabu discuss the case and speculate whe=
ther Evila will ever return and Tabu points out that her name spelled backw=
ards is perhaps a bad omen. The final panel is a question mark.

"The Atmosphere" is a three-page piece by Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallarico =
on the wonders of the Earth's atmosphere and man's limited efforts to trave=
l beyond it in jets and spacecraft.

This is a solid issue of Thunderbolt, really playing to the strip's strengt=
hs of atmosphere and mood. Morisi's artwork is scrumptious, though I will a=
dmit his storytelling falls short a time or two. The Hooded One is more pro=
perly established as a nemesis and the modus operandi of T-Bolt is well fix=
ed. I like especially his reluctance to jump into costume. The unwillingnes=
s to leave the relative comfort to fight is an honest and natural feeling, =
though not something often explored in superhero comics. Peter just wants a=
 quiet life, and that's something I can identify with all too well.

The guest-appearance by Dan Garrett is a good touch, and gives the Charlton=
 heroes a broader sense of place. One thing that is both a strength and a w=
eakness of the Charlton books is their distinctive characters. There is no =
such thing as a house style at Charlton so the books tend to live in their =
own little microverses. There was not much crossover stuff done, but a smal=
l example like this is the kind of mixing I prefer, understated.

More to come.

Rip Off



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Rip,
Re:=C2=A0 "her name spelled backwards is perhaps a bad omen. "
=C2=A0
Her name spelled forwards doesn't bode well either.
Thanks,
Darci




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The second issue of Thunderbolt is actually numbered #51. It's Volume 3 of =
the title formerly known as Son of Vulcan which itself had been known for m=
ost of its run as Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. That the former title was=
 Son of Vulcan is indicated in the indicia, not always something that happe=
ned. The book is dated March-April 1966. The story and art is by Thunderbol=
t' s creator Pete Morisi at this time operating under the pseudonym P.A.M.

Special Case Number 0002 from Thunderbolt' s Personal Files is titled "The =
Evil that is Evila!". After a one-page reprise of T-Bolt's origin, the stor=
y begins properly in the Himalayas in the lamasery where Peter Cannon was t=
rained. The Hooded One is being chastised and cast out of the lamasery beca=
use of his criminal behavior. As he leaves he reflects how he had originall=
y earned the right to study the Ancient Scrolls for an act of heroism where=
 he carried an unexploded bomb from a crashed aircraft away. He was severel=
y injured, losing part of his face which is the reason he hides it behind t=
he hood. He also indicates that he had begun some limited study of the Anci=
ent Scrolls before Cannon supplanted him. The Hooded One returns to his Ice=
 Cave, a weird place filled with frozen dinosaurs in the bowels of an extin=
ct volcano. There he plots and plans to revive the Princess Evila, sorceres=
s of the Nile.

Meanwhile at a museum far away Professor Henry Karl has called in two exper=
ts to help him to identify a sarcophagus recently uncovered in Luxor. The t=
wo experts are Peter Cannon and Dan Garrett (also known as the Blue Beetle)=
. They identify the inhabitant of the sarcophagus as Princess Evila. After =
they leave Karl is overcome by a mental attack from the Hooded One who stea=
ls his will. He orders Karl to use a rare poition in a vial in the sarcopha=
gus to revive Princess Evila. The black-haired beauty does indeed revive an=
d she takes over the mind of Karl herself and they disappear. Peter Cannon =
and Tabu read of this odd occurrence and plan to call the police to inquire=
.

The story is interrupted at this point by a one-page text piece titled "Phy=
salia Physalis" which tells the story of giant twenty-foot Portuguese Man-o=
f-War which threaten an island. The threat is forestalled by killing the ve=
getation which has triggered the monsters.

In a boxing bout Peter and Tabu debate what they should do. They realize th=
at the Hooded One might be involved given his access to the Ancient Scrolls=
. Meanwhile Evila has assembled a small army of thugs and criminals and the=
y begin a massive crime wave. Peter Cannon is reluctant to leave his reclus=
ive life to fight, but ultimately is convinced by Tabu and Thunderbolt runs=
 into the fray though the mansion's secret passageways. Heading into the ci=
ty T-Bolt finds plenty of criminal activity and using his physical skills p=
uts some of it down. But one thug escapes and he follows finding Princess E=
vila's lair where he sees her take the thug who has just returned and steal=
 his mind. Thunderbolt tears into the mob of criminals and fights using his=
 skills to the utmost. Chasing Evila he pursues her through many traps incl=
uding "Darts of Death", "Spears of Flame", and "Daggers of Doom". Confronti=
ng her, she hits a switch releasing a hidden panel that drops T-Bolt
 into the water below where he is confronted with a crocodile. He subdues t=
he crocodile and swims back to confront Evila again. They lock eyes and wil=
ls but it is Thunderbolt who ultimately wins, breaking Evila who ages drama=
tically and becomes again a mere mummy.

Finding Professor Karl, the two men take the mummy and leave just as a bomb=
 destroys the hidden headquarters. The newspapers the next day trumpet Thun=
derbolt' s victory. In his Ice Cave the Hooded One vows to threaten Thunder=
bolt again. At the mansion Peter and Tabu discuss the case and speculate wh=
ether Evila will ever return and Tabu points out that her name spelled back=
wards is perhaps a bad omen. The final panel is a question mark.

"The Atmosphere" is a three-page piece by Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallarico =
on the wonders of the Earth's atmosphere and man's limited efforts to trave=
l beyond it in jets and spacecraft.

This is a solid issue of Thunderbolt, really playing to the strip's strengt=
hs of atmosphere and mood. Morisi's artwork is scrumptious, though I will a=
dmit his storytelling falls short a time or two. The Hooded One is more pro=
perly established as a nemesis and the modus operandi of T-Bolt is well fix=
ed. I like especially his reluctance to jump into costume. The unwillingnes=
s to leave the relative comfort to fight is an honest and natural feeling, =
though not something often explored in superhero comics. Peter just wants a=
 quiet life, and that's something I can identify with all too well.

The guest-appearance by Dan Garrett is a good touch, and gives the Charlton=
 heroes a broader sense of place. One thing that is both a strength and a w=
eakness of the Charlton books is their distinctive characters. There is no =
such thing as a house style at Charlton so the books tend to live in their =
own little microverses. There was not much crossover stuff done, but a smal=
l example like this is the kind of mixing I prefer, understated.

More to come.

Rip Off





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Thunderbolt #52 is dated June 1966. It again features artwork by Pete Moris=
i, then going under his famous pseudonym of P.A.M. He is also credited as t=
he creator and the writer of this comic. In addition he did the cover of co=
urse.

Special Case Number 0003 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Gore the M=
an-Ape". After a brief two-panel reprise of T-Bolt's origin the story begin=
s with a newsboy announcing the disappearance of some scientists. A quick c=
ut to the secluded mansion owned by Peter Cannon and we find Peter and Tabu=
 discussing the case. During a brisk boxing bout they debate whether Peter =
should again don his Thunderbolt togs and check into the situation. Peter d=
eclines and knocks Tabu down in the process. Afterwords Peter sets off alon=
e in a launch for a vacation on the ocean.

The scene shifts to a remote island where a ship is delivering three people=
 to a man named Eric Gore. These are the missing scientists who mistakenly =
believe they are to assist Gore in his work, but find themselves prisoners =
instead. Gore demonstrates the futility of escape by showing that he has a =
small army of apes to do his bidding and that he controls the apes so compl=
etely because he himself has an apes hand.

Peter Cannon meanwhile finds himself in a storm and has to make an emergenc=
y landing on the very same island. He is going about making preparations fo=
r his unexpected stay when a gorilla named Gon-Da knocks him out from behin=
d. He awakes in the headquarters of Eric Gore and is told pretty much that =
he too is a prisoner.

Gore explains how he was working on some advanced skin-grafting techniques =
when an explosion left him without a left hand. He found in his exploded la=
b a dieing ape and he uses that ape's paw to replace his own missing mitt. =
That graft changes Gore, giving him more ferocious thoughts and drives him =
to create his lair in this remote island and plot to get power for himself.=
 His changed nature though makes him an acceptable leader for the apes on t=
he island and he finds he has his own savage army of loyal followers.

"July 27th" tells of a animal trainer in a circus who has a precognitive dr=
eam about losing control of his animals and coming under their control. He =
convinces his wife they need to leave the circus and do so. But the mysteri=
ous dream ended with the date July 27. Later it is revealed that the circus=
 burned to the ground on that very date.

Gore then goes on to explain that he is using the skills of the kidnapped s=
cientists to further his scheme to use germ warfare to conquer all of manki=
nd. He demonstrates the lethal nature of his weapons. Peter attacks the mad=
man and runs out of the compound. Gore does not pursue him, rather he plots=
 to kill the captured scientists who have refused to aid him in his schemes=
.

Peter runs back to the beach and finds an emergency kit that Tabu had prepa=
red for him and in it he finds his Thunderbolt costume. He puts it on and g=
oes to rescue the scientists held by Gore. He finds the scientists in an ar=
ena where the mad Gore plans to unleash his apes on them. As the apes attac=
k Thunderbolt appears and takes up the challenge of the arena. Using his sk=
ills and training Thunderbolt battles the apes and then confronts Gore who =
goes back on his bargain that a victory would buy their freedom. This cause=
s his apes to turn on him, and he escapes. T-Bolt tells the scientists to g=
o to the beach and his boat which is stranded on the reef while he pursues =
Gore.

In a final showdown T-Bolt confronts Gore who has gotten to a shock gun whi=
ch he uses on the hero. Reaching down to his core, Thunderbolt is able to o=
vercome the power of the weapon and he knocks out Gore. A fire erupts in th=
e lab and Gon-Da the ape goes in and rescues one of the men. It turns out t=
o be Thunderbolt he saves just as the lab explodes. Leaving the apes behind=
 on the island T-Bolt returns to his boat and he and the scientists leave t=
he island.

Back in his mansion he discusses the events with Tabu before settling down =
to watch a movie which Tabu suggests must deal with "oriental royalty and a=
dventure". The movie is King Kong.

"Judomaster's Self-Defense" is a three-page feature narrated by Judomaster.=
 It is written and drawn by Frank McLaughlin and focuses on "ouchigari" an =
inside leg reap and "tomoenage" a stomach throw.

Great issue of Thunderbolt. Eric Gore is a worthy opponent and it takes all=
 of T-Bolts effort to defeat him. This half-man/half-beast is well presente=
d by Morisi, and the notion that the ape's paw makes him savage is an inter=
esting notion, though the story itself seems to suggest that Gore's savager=
y has less to do with his ape qualities and more to do with his human ones.=
 The nature of Tabu gets more defined too as he seems clearly at this point=
 to be Peter Cannon's conscience, encouraging the reluctant man to take up =
the role of hero and do good for his fellow men.

I overlooked this Judomaster installment when I did my overview of that ser=
ies, and I'm happy to correct that now. Thunderbolt and Judomaster both fea=
ture one another in their books during this summer of 1965, a neat bit of c=
ross promotion.

More to come.

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This will be the only announcement on-list =96 I certainly have no intentio=
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collection is now on the market. Selections from 'The Whitko Collection' wi=
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ton, American, British, Western, War, Magazines about Comics, Romance, IW/S=
uper, Religious, Funny Girls, and much more.

Every single category in our catalogue, both British and American, is repre=
sented within this collection and there will be several updates for each ca=
tegory, so, for example, if you see a Dell Comics update, it doesn't mean t=
hat's all there is of Dell, just the first batch of them.=20=20=20=20

Most pedigree collections are also characterised by an enhanced premium on =
the retail price. That's not applicable in this case. All items in 'The Whi=
tko Collection' will be sold at our regular retail, to be bought by people =
who'll enjoy and appreciate them. Which =96 apart from still being around t=
o enjoy them himself, of course =96 is what I think he would have wanted.

- Will Morgan.



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Thunderbolt #53 is dated August 1966. This is one of two Thunderbolt appear=
ances this month, the only time this happened in a single month I believe. =
The work as usual is by Pete Morisi under his famous pseudonym of P.A.M.

Special Case Number 0004 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Enter...Th=
e Tong". The story begins at midnight in a secret lair in the countryside. =
Criminal types have gathered together as a bizarre ceremony begins around a=
n Oriental-style idol of evil. Dancers appear and the ritual rises in pitch=
 until all within the chamber are chanting "All hail the Tong!" over and ov=
er. The idol slips away into the floor and out of flames appears a white-ha=
ired Asian man who commands all to be silent. He is The Tong, also the name=
 of the organization. He identifies a traitor in their midst and quickly sh=
oots him and order him disposed of. The Tong then introduces his greatest w=
eapon, a giant armored tank with a drill on its nose which will plow throug=
h the earth. With this weapon he declares the Tong will rule.

The scene shifts to the secluded mansion of Peter Cannon where Peter is tra=
ining. He gets a call from the police who indicate that the man they had in=
side The Tong has been found shot and is currently in a coma. They want exp=
ert advice from Peter who is a famous writer and expert on things Asian. He=
 identifies a symbol they found tatooed on their man's wrist as a Tong symb=
ol, and Peter informs the Police about the old Tongs and how they rose to p=
ower originally as vigilante groups but became criminal organizations, and =
that a story persists that they will rise again. Peter leaves the meeting s=
addened by mankind and the way in which people cannot find ways to live pea=
cefully. But he also realizes that Tabu is his conscience and that maybe he=
's too hard.

"Raymond the Rain Maker" is a one-page text story about a drought which bri=
ngs the skeptical leaders to consult Professor Raymond Raney who claims to =
have Jiburo indian spells to make it rain. He wants one million dollars to =
create four days of rain and does so, but the leaders refuse to pay him. He=
 then creates a deluge and demands ten million to make it stop. They pay hi=
m and he heads off to Mexico to use the money to help the Jiburo indians.

The Thunderbolt story continues as The Tong plan their attacks on the city =
using their drill to rob banks. A crime wave strikes the city and Tabu conv=
inces a reluctant Peter to become Thunderbolt again. He does and stalks acr=
oss the dark cityscape until he finds the thugs of the Tong and attacks. He=
 intentionally allows himself to be captured so he will be taken to The Ton=
g. The Tong is pleased and orders Thunderbolt to battle two giant Sumo wres=
tlers. Calling upon his mantra and will T-Bolt is able to at last defeat th=
e giants and turns his attack on the criminals of the Tong. The Tong sees t=
his and climbs into the armored drill and attempts to drive T-Bolt into the=
 ground, but the drill gets out of control and digs ever deeper into the ea=
rth until it at last bursts through into the sea. The Tong is seemingly tra=
pped in his own invention. The police arrive to mop the criminals alerted t=
o the location by the policeman who has wakened from his coma. It is discov=
ered that leader The Tong was an orphan who sought revenge when his innocen=
t parents were killed during the Tong wars. His life a crime a response to =
that senseless death. Tabu points out how similar the Tong's tragedy was to=
 Peter's but that they responded to the circumstances differently.

"Thunderbolts" is the debut installment of the Thunderbolt letters page. Th=
ere are four letters, most all praising the new comic. Some want to know wh=
en Sarge Steel will be seen again, and at least one writer points out how m=
uch better T-Bolt is than the usual Charlton material. There is a comment f=
rom the editor (Dick Giordano) about those who want Charlton to be just lik=
e Marvel and DC, but he promises that the Charlton heroic universe will be =
different still.

"Captain Atom's Secret" is a two-page feature by Frank McLaughlin which tal=
ks about Cap's origin and also the nature of atomic theory and how the mode=
rn world is dealing with the benefits of that new power. There is a panel d=
evoted to cross-promoting Captain Atom's new magazine too.

Thunderbolt also shows up in this month's Judomaster comic. Issue #90 dated=
 August 1966 features a two-page Thunderbolt piece by Morisi titled "The Ro=
of of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born". It tells of T-Bolt's origin =
and speaks of the nature of his power. There is a panel promoting his comic=
.

The series Thunderbolt seems well established creatively by this point. Whi=
le Morisi takes care each month to reintroduce the hero, each month this ha=
s diminished in the time it takes from the main story. Peter Cannon and Tab=
u have an established relationship and that combination offers up a neat va=
riation on the classic hero. Under Morisi, Thunderbolt looks like no other =
comic on the stands at the time and the atmosphere and mood are rich with a=
 distinctive pulp flavor. Morisi's style can be somewhat static, making the=
 captions filled with words almost at times read like an illustrated story =
rather than a comic book. Nonetheless it is a compelling read.

More to come.

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Thunderbolt was another unfortunate casualty when the Action Hero line went=
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Thunderbolt #53 is dated August 1966. This is one of two Thunderbolt appear=
ances this month, the only time this happened in a single month I believe. =
The work as usual is by Pete Morisi under his famous pseudonym of P.A.M.

Special Case Number 0004 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Enter...Th=
e Tong". The story begins at midnight in a secret lair in the countryside. =
Criminal types have gathered together as a bizarre ceremony begins around a=
n Oriental-style idol of evil. Dancers appear and the ritual rises in pitch=
 until all within the chamber are chanting "All hail the Tong!" over and ov=
er. The idol slips away into the floor and out of flames appears a white-ha=
ired Asian man who commands all to be silent. He is The Tong, also the name=
 of the organization. He identifies a traitor in their midst and quickly sh=
oots him and order him disposed of. The Tong then introduces his greatest w=
eapon, a giant armored tank with a drill on its nose which will plow throug=
h the earth. With this weapon he declares the Tong will rule.

The scene shifts to the secluded mansion of Peter Cannon where Peter is tra=
ining. He gets a call from the police who indicate that the man they had in=
side The Tong has been found shot and is currently in a coma. They want exp=
ert advice from Peter who is a famous writer and expert on things Asian. He=
 identifies a symbol they found tatooed on their man's wrist as a Tong symb=
ol, and Peter informs the Police about the old Tongs and how they rose to p=
ower originally as vigilante groups but became criminal organizations, and =
that a story persists that they will rise again. Peter leaves the meeting s=
addened by mankind and the way in which people cannot find ways to live pea=
cefully. But he also realizes that Tabu is his conscience and that maybe he=
's too hard.

"Raymond the Rain Maker" is a one-page text story about a drought which bri=
ngs the skeptical leaders to consult Professor Raymond Raney who claims to =
have Jiburo indian spells to make it rain. He wants one million dollars to =
create four days of rain and does so, but the leaders refuse to pay him. He=
 then creates a deluge and demands ten million to make it stop. They pay hi=
m and he heads off to Mexico to use the money to help the Jiburo indians.

The Thunderbolt story continues as The Tong plan their attacks on the city =
using their drill to rob banks. A crime wave strikes the city and Tabu conv=
inces a reluctant Peter to become Thunderbolt again. He does and stalks acr=
oss the dark cityscape until he finds the thugs of the Tong and attacks. He=
 intentionally allows himself to be captured so he will be taken to The Ton=
g. The Tong is pleased and orders Thunderbolt to battle two giant Sumo wres=
tlers. Calling upon his mantra and will T-Bolt is able to at last defeat th=
e giants and turns his attack on the criminals of the Tong. The Tong sees t=
his and climbs into the armored drill and attempts to drive T-Bolt into the=
 ground, but the drill gets out of control and digs ever deeper into the ea=
rth until it at last bursts through into the sea. The Tong is seemingly tra=
pped in his own invention. The police arrive to mop the criminals alerted t=
o the location by the policeman who has wakened from his coma. It is
 discovered that leader The Tong was an orphan who sought revenge when his =
innocent parents were killed during the Tong wars. His life a crime a respo=
nse to that senseless death. Tabu points out how similar the Tong's tragedy=
 was to Peter's but that they responded to the circumstances differently.

"Thunderbolts" is the debut installment of the Thunderbolt letters page. Th=
ere are four letters, most all praising the new comic. Some want to know wh=
en Sarge Steel will be seen again, and at least one writer points out how m=
uch better T-Bolt is than the usual Charlton material. There is a comment f=
rom the editor (Dick Giordano) about those who want Charlton to be just lik=
e Marvel and DC, but he promises that the Charlton heroic universe will be =
different still.

"Captain Atom's Secret" is a two-page feature by Frank McLaughlin which tal=
ks about Cap's origin and also the nature of atomic theory and how the mode=
rn world is dealing with the benefits of that new power. There is a panel d=
evoted to cross-promoting Captain Atom's new magazine too.

Thunderbolt also shows up in this month's Judomaster comic. Issue #90 dated=
 August 1966 features a two-page Thunderbolt piece by Morisi titled "The Ro=
of of the World - Where Thunderbolt Was Born". It tells of T-Bolt's origin =
and speaks of the nature of his power. There is a panel promoting his comic=
.

The series Thunderbolt seems well established creatively by this point. Whi=
le Morisi takes care each month to reintroduce the hero, each month this ha=
s diminished in the time it takes from the main story. Peter Cannon and Tab=
u have an established relationship and that combination offers up a neat va=
riation on the classic hero. Under Morisi, Thunderbolt looks like no other =
comic on the stands at the time and the atmosphere and mood are rich with a=
 distinctive pulp flavor. Morisi's style can be somewhat static, making the=
 captions filled with words almost at times read like an illustrated story =
rather than a comic book. Nonetheless it is a compelling read.

More to come.

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Thunderbolt #54 is dated October 1966. Again Pete Morisi using his pseudony=
m P.A.M. is responsible for the story and art for most of the issue includi=
ng the cover.

Special Case Number 0005 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "This One's=
 for Tabu!". The story begins in Peter Cannon's secluded mansion where he a=
nd friend Tabu are discussing the Peter's role as Thunderbolt and the curre=
nt whereabouts of the Hooded One. Peter is still reluctant to become T-Bolt=
. The two get into the boxing ring yet again and spar but Tabu using Savate=
 knocks Peter onto the canvas for a change. But before Peter can retaliate =
Tabu collapses.

A doctor then informs Peter that Tabu has contracted African Tryanosomiasis=
 better known as "Sleeping Sickness". The doctor regrets that there is no c=
ure. But Peter knows of one from his days in the Himalayas and immediately =
takes a trip back to the land that gave birth to Thunderbolt. He consults t=
he High Abbot of the lamasery and discovers that the plants he needs have b=
een destroyed by the winter snows. But then Peter remembers the "Cave of th=
e Peaks" a dangerous location where the Mongols patrol, but where all thing=
s exist. He immediately heads off on horseback to find it.

He is confronted by Mongols and his horse is killed by gunshots. But when t=
he Mongols attack in close quarters Peter overcomes them and they then tell=
 him of the location of the Cave of the Peaks. He again rides into the snow=
 and eventually discovers the cave. Inside he changes his wet clothes but f=
inds only his Thunderbolt costume which Tabu persistently packs in his supp=
lies. Putting it on he explores the cave and finds dinosaurs frozen in ice.=
 He is then confronted by the Hooded One and the pair exchange threats. Put=
 Peter leaves the Hooded One and explores the cave further and discovers an=
 opening into a hidden jungle region seemingly from the prehistoric past.

He starts his search for the plants he needs and encounters many types of d=
inosaurs even getting charged by a Styrachosurus (a one-horned dinosaur sim=
ilar to the more famous Triceratops). He avoids the beast which gets its ho=
rn stuck in a tree. Taking to the trees, Thunderbolt explores the jungle fu=
rther before he is struck down by tiny arrows fired by pygmy warriors. Usin=
g his vast will power he overcomes the effects of the arrows and charges in=
to his small attackers overcoming them when they suddenly run away. The rea=
son is all too obvious as a Tyrannosaurus Rex appears. T-Bolt takes a spear=
 and launches it puncturing the beast on its nose. It dies and the pygmy wa=
rriors are impressed enough to help T-Bolt find the plant he needs.

Quickly he retraces his steps and is soon flying back to America. At the ho=
spital he arrives with only an hour to spare as the cure awakes Tabu. Peter=
 tells a grateful Tabu that he only went on this quest so that they could h=
ave a return boxing match and Peter could repay Tabu for his kick to the he=
ad.

"Behold...The Sentinels" is a new back up feature created and written by Ga=
ry Frierich and drawn by Sam Grainger. The story begins in a smoke-filled G=
reenwich Village nightclub where a trio of folk singers called "The Protest=
ers" are performing. They are Rick Strong, a 21-year old college graduate, =
Cindy Carson, a 19-year old beauty with a future in Hollywood, and Crunch C=
arson a beefy fellow with a potential future as a professional football pla=
yer. After the performance in their dressing room they are arguing with Ric=
k indicating that unless they find some financial success relatively soon h=
e might have to take a job as a teacher. The keep bickering for some time w=
hen a small boy opens the door and asks them to come see his uncle Mr.Jones=
 their landlord. The go to see him and he reveals that his real name is Kol=
otov and he's an exiled Russian opposed to Communism. To that end he has in=
vented some great weapons that he wants to share with the trio, who he has =
been watching for two years preparing for this moment. He gives Rick a powe=
r pack that straps to his back which will make him lighter than air and he =
dubs him "Helio:, he gives Cindy a headband which will give her ESP and dub=
s her "Mentalia", and finally he gives Crunch a pair of gloves which will m=
ake him super-strong and he dubs him "Brute". Crunch demonstrates the power=
 of the gloves by punching through a solid oak door. Kolotov makes the trio=
 swear a pledge to use the devices only to combat evil and promptly dies. T=
he three agree to stay together and become Sentinels of Justice.

"Thunderbolts" is the name of the letters page and this time offers up four=
 letters. The lackluster cover design of Charlton books is mentioned. One f=
an thinks that P.A.M. is actually editor Pat Masulli, but is disabused of t=
hat notion. One fan regrets that P.A.M. has left the westerns and Dick Gior=
dano, the editor who did these pages informs us that P.A.M. does comics par=
t time only. The Sentinels back-up feature is mentioned and a new policy is=
 announced that all of Charlton's Action-Hero books will feature back-ups a=
nd fans should certainly let editorial know what works and what doesn't.

And that wraps another Thunderbolt issue. With this installment the book is=
 fully ripened. The T-Bolt adventure is a dense one filled with good action=
, and the concern Peter has for Tabu gives us an insight into this aloof he=
ro. The addition of the Sentinels completes what will be the format of the =
book for several months. I found the bickering between the trio a bit hard =
to take since it had so little background to support it as relevant charact=
erization. It seemed forced like Friedrich wanted to ape the Marvel style w=
hich was becoming dominate in the comics of the time. Mighty Comics was the=
 worst offender of this habit of creating bickering heroes, but sadly losin=
g the deep context which made it work so well for Marvel. The Sentinels is =
a very Marvel-feeling strip, especially with Grainger's artwork. I really l=
ike Grainger though I know many folks don't. He's got a lively line and the=
re's a real energy to his work. The strip is a very neat visual counterpoin=
t to the more austere Thunderbolt lead.

More to come.=20

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Thunderbolt #55 is dated December 1966. Again the entire Thunderbolt story =
is written and drawn by P.A.M. the pseudonym of Peter Morisi.

Special Case Number 0006 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Where Stal=
ks the Mummy?". The story begins with Peter Cannon and Tabu playing basketb=
all and once again discussing Peter's role as Thunderbolt, and Peter repeat=
s that he is reluctant to involve himself in a world filled with greed and =
hate and violence.

The scene shifts to Egypt and an archeological dig where Professor Hugo Dru=
mmond and his team unearth a sarcophagus with an undisturbed mummy inside. =
Drummon only wants the mummy for his work, rejecting the other riches and h=
as the mummy shipped to his castle-like armory in America. He begins a seri=
es of experiments searching for the gift of immortality the ancient Egyptia=
ns have possibly hidden in the mummy. He uses technology to connect himself=
 mentally to the mummy and a merging takes place with the mind of Drummond =
and the mind of the slave who was mummified blending. It is primarily Drumm=
ond's consciousness though that now animates the mummified body. He then us=
es his new-found power to kidnap his former colleagues and begin a crime wa=
ve of terror.

Tabu and Peter Cannon read of these events, the crimes carried in many news=
papers it seems. And Tabu convinces Peter once again that he has a responsi=
bility to become Thunderbolt to help his fellow man. Peter though reveals t=
hat his reluctance comes from his desire to work peacefully and not through=
 violence, but he ultimately accepts that he must. He follows the clues to =
Drummond's castle and finds the kidnapped archeologists and Drummond in his=
 mummy form. Drummond is just about to kill the men in his gas chamber when=
 T-Bolt appears and breaks the glass of the chamber freeing the men.

Thunderbolt then pursues Drummond into the basement of his castle but is un=
der surveillance by camera as he does so. Drummond unleashes a fully-grown =
tiger on T-Bolt and it takes all of T-Bolt's skill to defeat and possibly s=
lay the man-killer. Thunderbolt then confronts the mummified Drummond and t=
hey fight, with Drummond finally falling from the parapet of the castle. Th=
e castle then catches fire as T-Bolt leaves. Later no sign of Drummond is f=
ound as Tabu and Peter discuss the case in his secluded mansion and they no=
te that Drummond's human body is now under observation though it seems in a=
 vegetative state. They wonder if such a thing as the mummy could exist, bu=
t ultimately are forced to accept that such superior beings as the mummy an=
d Thunderbolt himself exist.

The Sensational Sentinels return in a story titled "Beware...The Menacing M=
ind-Bender!". The story is edited by Dick Giordano, written by Gary Friedri=
ch, and drawn by Sam Grainger. The story begins with the trio trying on the=
ir new uniforms and arguing incessantly all the while, especially Crunch Wi=
lson know as Brute and Rick Strong known as Helio. Cindy Carson known as Me=
ntalia tries to keep the peace as much as she can. Ultimately they head int=
o public and endure the stares of the crowd each harboring secret thoughts.=
 Rich wonders what money can be made in addition to the good they can do, C=
indy only wants to help her fellow man, and Crunch is reluctant and looks f=
orward to his pro football contract. They see a purse-snatching and interce=
de, but their inexperience comes into play as Helio smacks into a street si=
gn and Brute crashes through a brick wall. They get arrested but are bailed=
 out by their manager "Colonel" Juniper Julep who wants them to appear as t=
he folk singing act "The Protesters" on the Ed Sullivan Show. He says they =
can wear masks on stage to protect their identities.

Meanwhile the leaders of the world are undergoing changes in attitude which=
 result in war being declared between Russia and the United States. The Sen=
tinels get a message from the late Dr.Kolotov (who gave them their powers) =
by way of his grandson Billy and they learn that he feared one former colle=
ague known as the Mind-Bender. No sooner do they learn this than they are a=
ttacked themselves by a robot sent by the the Mind-Bender and after a brief=
 struggle they send the machine out the window, but out of the ruined machi=
ne a warning from the Mind-Bender erupts and the Sentinels brace for more a=
ttacks.

"Thunderbolts" features four letters from fans. Among the concerns are a de=
sire to see Blue Beetle again and the new Ditko version of the hero then ap=
pearing in Captain Atom is promoted. One writer thinks P.A.M. is a woman an=
d is corrected. There are a number of requests for original artwork, but Di=
ck Giordano says that selling this material is not possible. As he puts it =
"For reasons too lengthy to go into in this space, we MUST keep all of it! =
It is carefully stored and indexed and it is necessary to our operation tha=
t we maintain this procedure." Given the haphazard way the artwork was ulti=
mately treated, with much of it forgotten and destroyed carelessly, this is=
 painful to read today.

And that wraps another issue. This particular issue of T-Bolt seemed the mo=
st formulaic yet. The threat was defined, T-Bolt reluctantly goes to fight =
it and is triumphant but broods. Maybe it's the loss of pages, but the endi=
ng seemed a bit abrupt without an interesting twist. The villain was a nice=
 one though and seemed poised for a return at some point. The Sentinels sto=
ry was full of plot for such a small tale, but still the incessant bickerin=
g among the team does get tiresome very swiftly.

More to come.

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Thunderbolt #56 is dated February 1967. Once again the feature is credited =
as created, written, and dawn by Pete Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym. Mo=
risi did the cover too as he has done all the covers for the series so far.

Special Case Number 0007 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Beware...T=
he Cobra". It begins in Peter Cannon's secluded mansion outside New York Ci=
ty where Peter and Tabu are sparring in judo. After the bout, they again ta=
lk about Peter's responsiblity as Thunderbolt to his fellow man with Tabu u=
rging him to take a greater role. Tabu also asks about the nature of Peter'=
s power which Cannon explains as tapping into that unexplored reserved that=
 all human beings have. He is vague and says the way it's tapped must remai=
n a secret. The origin of "Thunderbolt's Personal Files" is revealed as Tab=
u announces that he has been recording Thunderbolt's adventures. What follo=
ws is a two-page review of the previous issues with a panel devoted to each=
 of the previous six cases.

The scene shifts to the waterfront area where a mysterious bearded man name=
d Cobra meets with some eccentric looking types and conducts a slave auctio=
n, offering up men who are compelled to follow orders because they've been =
given some drug derived from cobra venom. The Cobra makes one hundred thous=
and dollars from the auction and has his henchmen go out into the city to g=
et more potential slaves. What follows is a wave of kidnappings that terroi=
ze the city and attract the attention of Peter and Tabu. Again Peter is rel=
uctant to investigate until Tabu tells him that one man who has disappeared=
 is a surgeon who is the only man able to cure a young girl currently waiti=
ng for the operation. She has only a day left to live.

With that deadline facing him Peter becomes Thunderbolt and heads through h=
is hidden tunnels into the heart of the city. He leaps about on rooftops fo=
r a time looking for clues. He at last finds an area that seems suspicious =
and investigates further finding the prisoners and the Cobra and his men. H=
e attacks but the Cobra shoots him with darts coated with the drug and has =
him tied up. While he is bound, the Cobra unleashes a real cobra into a roo=
m with T-Bolt who uses his teeth to subdue the deadly serpent. Shocked the =
Cobra attempts to cajole the Thunderbolt into being his partner but a punch=
 sends him falling and he lands on the fangs of the dead cobra, and is kill=
ed. Tabu and Peter discuss the case later and Peter urges Tabu to end the i=
nstallment with "The End", but Tabu insists on "To be continued".

"Thunderbolts" offers up four letters from fans. There is praise for The Se=
ntinels save for one writer who wants them replaced with Nightshade. It's n=
oted that a number of fans have become writers for Charlton in recent month=
s and that is encouraged. One writer apparently knows the identity of P.A.M=
. and uses his name in the letter though Dick Giordano edits it out. Specul=
ation about P.A.M.'s job though is erroneous. The new Blue Beetle book is a=
nnounced as well as a new showcase-type book which certainly must be Charlt=
on Premiere though the title is not mentioned. It is also announced that th=
e next issue of Thunderbolt will be by Pat Boyette, filling in for Morisi.

The Sensational Sentinels return in a story titled "Where Walks...The Titan=
!" written by Gary Friedrich and drawn by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is li=
sted as editor. This story is advertised as "Another Cataclysmic Charlton C=
lassic", a bit of a stretch even for a diehard like me. The story begins wi=
th Ed Sullivan introducing the Protesters who sing a fairly lame song about=
 being in jail and throwing a pie in the warden's face. They are nonetheles=
s mobbed by girl fans. Their manager the Colonel is happy and takes them ou=
t to eat, but they bicker as usual.

Meanwhile at Coney Island a young boy (who looks like Billy from the last f=
ew issues) and his grandmother find themselves in harm's way when an orange=
 giant appears demanding to know the whereabouts of the Sentinels. The man =
who calls himself Titan begins to wreak havoc in the park. TV news informs =
the Sentinels who don their garb and head on over to face the threat. Helio=
 flies up but he is unable to control his flight and Titan smacks him hard =
to the ground. Mentalia finds that as with the Mind-Bender's robot she is u=
nable to effect this Titan with her ESP. That leave Brute to confront the f=
oe and they have a knockdown dragout fight for a few pages until finally Ti=
tan throws Brute from the top of the roller coaster. In the last panel Heli=
o awakes but apparently is suffering from amnesia. The story ends at this p=
oint.

I liked the idea that the comic is developed from the records kept by Tabu.=
 This gives a neat meta-fictional twist to the proceedings, not unlike the =
mechanism used by Arthur Conan Doyle with Watson and Sherlock Holmes. It's =
a clever bit. The story though, like last issue felt a bit rushed. With a l=
ot of page count used in reprise, this left precious little time for the st=
ory unfold. It's not really clear how Thunderbolt found the Cobra, he just =
sort of does it. One neat thing though is a panel by Morisi showing Thunder=
bolt biting the cobra which is clearly a swipe/homage to Bill Everett's Ama=
zing-Man cover from Centaur Comics. Thunderbolt is clearly inspired by Amaz=
ing Man in many ways, though perhaps streamlined a bit for the 60's, and it=
's nice that Morisi pays tribute to his inspiration.=20

More to come.=20

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Thunderbolt #57 is dated May 1967. This issue is different from those that =
have come before because Pat Boyette is on hand for the storytelling this t=
ime handling both the writing and the artwork. There is a memo from Dick Gi=
ordano the editor indicating that the story is developed from notes provide=
d by Tabu. In fact the story is told from Tabu's point of view, an immediat=
e change of style. The cover is by Boyette too.

"Face of the Dragon" (though this is Special Case #0008 there is no mention=
 of this on the splash page) begins with an enigmatic figure standing motio=
nless in the snow. Tabu and Peter Cannon look out into the snowy night and =
discuss a feeling that Peter has that a mighty evil is brewing. They make n=
ote that the man outside has not moved for an hour and they go to investiga=
te and find him nearly frozen and in his hand a defaced stone griffin. The =
man, an oriental giant, is sent to the hospital and they discuss the meanin=
g of the griffin and since a griffin represents a new-comer and the mutilat=
ion indicates a crime, they conclude that an invasion is imminent in the la=
nd they come from in the Himalayas.

They fly together to the ancient land and after arriving find a massive exo=
dus of people fleeing their homeland. The flee a warlord who reputedly has =
the face of a dragon. Peter and Tabu contract with a British pilot to fly t=
hem over the area and they parachute into the very heart of the warlord's t=
erritory. They are immediately set upon by a large gang of thugs and taken =
before the warlord.

In a throne room they wait before an empty seat before in a wisp of smoke t=
he dragon-headed warlord appears. Peter vows to defeat him but the warlord =
is undeterred and casts his hand creating a vapor that sends the pair of he=
roes into a hallucination. They awake in the mud of a lower chamber. The wa=
rlord appears and asks again if they are impressed, but Peter indicates tha=
t no man with a mask will frighten him. He accuses the warlord of being a f=
ake, and attacks, but the warlord disappears in a cloud of smoke. Then a ma=
ss of stones is dropped on the pair.

Peter then takes a moment to become Thunderbolt; and he and Tabu begin thei=
r escape but find themselves under attack by arrows. Taking cover in a ston=
e niche, they are in a trapdoor and are flipped back into the throne room f=
illed with thugs and the dragon-headed warlord. He orders them executed and=
 to impress everyone conjures up snakes. Thunderbolt takes one of the snake=
s in hand and causes it to evaporate. Then T-Bolt unleashes a power he's ne=
ver used before and his face becomes drawn under the mental strain. There a=
ppears in the throne room a giant dragon who tears through the building and=
 the men. They all flee in terror. After they go, the dragon disappears and=
 T-Bolt reveals that though it was real while he maintained his concentrati=
on, it was only the product of his mind nonetheless. The pair leave in triu=
mph while on the ground behind them is a dragon mask forgotten and left beh=
ind.

"Thunderbolts" features one letter this month, a lengthy one that touches o=
n several points. There's a desire expressed for more exciting covers and m=
aybe that Steve Ditko should take over the covers for Charlton. We learn th=
at the covers for Thunderbolt are rather generic because they have to be pr=
oduced before the comic is actually drawn. The formulaic nature of the T-Bo=
lt stories is commented on. Giordano takes issue with the cover comment, si=
nce he indicates he's been responsible for most if not all of Charlton's co=
vers for many years. nearly 500 by his count. The titles he doesn't have co=
ver control on are Captain Atom, Peacemaker, and Thunderbolt. Also there is=
 desire expressed for letter writers to direct their missives to specific t=
itles and not just to Charlton in general.

The Sensational Sentinels appear again in a story titled "If This Be Triump=
h!". The story is plotted by D.C.Glanzman and the script and the art are by=
 Sam Grainger. Lettering is by A.Machine. The story begins soon after the b=
attle from the previous issue where we find Brute, Mentalia, and Helio in t=
heir apartment recovering. Brute apparently survived the fall from the roll=
er coaster by landing in some water. Rick still has amnesia. The android Ti=
tan breaks into the apartment to continue the battle and he and Brute excha=
nge blows, with Titan eventually flinging Brute toward a window. But Mental=
ia exerts her thoughts and is able to stop Brute in mid-air revealing for t=
he first time not only an ability for telepathy but telekinesis as well. Th=
e Titan captures Mentalia and climbs down the building with her in tow. Bru=
te follows using his great hand strength to grip the bricks on the side of =
the building. He and Titan again mix it up until Brute realizes that he was=
 granted great strength over other men and not androids, so he changes tact=
ics and uses a light pole to attack Titan to great effect. Then Brute leaps=
 to attack Titan and Mentalia adds her telekinetic might to the thrust and =
they severely damage the android who ultimately collapses. Returning to the=
ir apartment the find Rick still confused but just they are dealing with wh=
at that means for the team Sarge Steel appears and announces that the Mind-=
Bender and Titan were creations of the C.I.A. and that Dr.Kolotov who gave =
them their powers was a Soviet spy. As the story ends, he is taking the tea=
m into custody in order for them to make statements.

This issue was reprinted in the later 70's under the Modern imprint.

This comic was my first exposure to Thunderbolt. It was given to me by my m=
aternal grandmother. Where she found them I'll never know, but it opened a =
world up to me that I had missed. I was just a bit too young for the Action=
-Heroes. They were wrapping up just as I was getting into comics, so it was=
 only in back issues that I found and enjoyed them. That said, finding T-Bo=
lt first in the hands of Pat Boyette really changes your understanding of t=
he character. The struggle of conscience is less pronounced in this story. =
Peter is more than willing to fight, though he does express a desire for pe=
ace there's no sense he's reluctant to press the battle that presents itsel=
f. Also the opening scenes with the frozen messenger are outstanding drama =
and highly mysterious, a classic Boyette moment. I can see that people migh=
t be upset that T-Bolt breaks out a new "power" in this one, something it s=
eems most men can't do. But although he suggests it's more, hypnosis can ex=
plain it all for those reluctant to go further. With the past filled with a=
ncient mummies and whatnot, such a power is not out of context, but is diff=
erent for our hero.

More to come as Pete Morisi returns.

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Thunderbolt #58 is dated July 1967. Pete Morisi under his pseudonym of P.A.=
M. back for what will be his final full issue of the character he created. =
He is listed as the creator, writer and artist of the lead story and he did=
 the cover too.

Special Case Number 0009 from T-Bolt's Personal Files is titled "Encore: Th=
e Hooded One". It begins as do most T-Bolt tales in the secluded mansion Pe=
ter Cannon has outside New York City. He and Tabu are boxing and discussing=
 the world. Specifically Tabu brings up the disappearance of a young woman =
in the Himalayas who was searching for the grave of her father killed durin=
g WWII. It turns out that Peter has all ready gotten plane reservations to =
take them to the Himalayas to search for the girl who turns out to be the d=
aughter of the pilot who crashed his plane next to the lamasery and in whic=
h were found an unexploded bomb which was carried away by the man who would=
 one day become the Hooded One. His face was destroyed by his good deed and=
 he was to be rewarded with access to the Ancient Scrolls until the deeds o=
f Peter's parents superseded his claim. His bitterness has made him T-Bolt'=
s most tenacious enemy.

Peter and Tabu get to the lamasery and quickly arrange to travel into the m=
ountains to the Cave of the Peaks, the hideout of the Hooded One. Arriving =
there, Peter becomes Thunderbolt and leaves Tabu in the cavern as he travel=
s deeper into the cave finding again the entrance to a hidden valley filled=
 with all things that have lived including prehistoric dinosaurs. He eludes=
 a Pteranodon and battles a pair of lions before finding a fortress wall. H=
e enters and finds prehistoric dwarves all too ready to fight him. He is ab=
out to invoke his mantra to inspire his will when a stone axe knocks him ou=
t.

He awakes in a room with Lori Carson, the girl they've come to rescue. Soon=
 enough the pair find themselves in an arena where the Hooded One presides =
as leader of the dwarves. He condemns to the beast of the arena demanding r=
evenge on Thunderbolt and the daughter of the man he holds responsible for =
his suffering. A giant gorilla appears and T-Bolt must muster all his will =
to defeat it which he does. Then dispatching the dwarves, he and Carson esc=
ape from the fortress. The are assaulted by deadly army ants, but leap into=
 the river to escape and then T-Bolt is able to use the river to escape the=
 valley and the dinosaurs carrying Carson to safety.

In the lamasery Lori meets Peter Cannon and Tabu and wishes to thank the ma=
n who saved her. They say they came to assist her and she insists on return=
ing with them, saying they are now responsible for her according to ancient=
 traditions. Peter scoffs, but Tabu says it might be so and the story ends =
as the trio fly back to America.

"Thunderbolts" offers up three letters this time. One writer praises the od=
d nature of Thunderbolt's stories, and rejects the critics who want more ac=
tion at the expense of the characterization between Peter and Tabu. The Sen=
tinels get praise but generally it seems folks want more T-Bolt and fewer p=
ages dedicated to the trio. Dick Giordano indicates the shorter T-Bolt stor=
ies have more to do with P.A.M.'s deadline woes than a desire to increase t=
he Sentinels exposure. A new cover design is announced and perhaps a new lo=
go to boot.

The Sensational Sentinels return in a story titled "Into the Lair of the...=
Mind-Bender!". The story features artwork by Sam Grainger, but writing this=
 time is by Sergius O'Shaughnessy a pseudonym for Denny O'Neil. The story p=
icks up with Sarge Steel arresting the trio for spying, saying that Dr.Kolo=
tov who gave them their powers was a Soviet agent. But Steel's aggressive n=
ature and his attempt to shoot the trio in an alley convince them he is bei=
ng controlled and Mentalia uses her ESP powers to overcome him. Then Brute =
and Mentalia are attacked by a hotdog vendor who they realize must be the M=
ind-Bender. They repel the attack but he escapes.

They then take both Sarge Steel and Rick Strong, also known as Helio to the=
 hospital where the reports are good for both that they will recover. Then =
Crunch Wilson and Cindy Carson resume their roles as two-thirds of the Prot=
esters, a singing group and try to perform. But they are attacked by a very=
 hostile crowd clearly under the sway of the Mind-Bender. Helio returns jus=
t in time to save them using his flying belt and the trio escape. Later tha=
t evening Helio gets a call from Crunch and goes to the location only to fi=
nd that he and Mentalia are taken prisoner by Brute who is under the power =
of the Mind-Bender. As the story closes, Helio and Mentalia are strapped to=
 tables while Brute pushes a button which will kill them.

This issue is one of two that my beloved grandmother got me when I was a me=
re youth. It was my first exposure to P.A.M. and I immediately fell in love=
 with the spare and romantic style of the artist. This is sadly Morisi's la=
st Thunderbolt adventure. He will turn up again on the cover of the next is=
sue, but deadlines apparently were too much for the full-time policeman and=
 so his hero gets turned over to the capable hands of Pat Boyette full time=
. This is a solid adventure, a few additional pages making a big difference=
 in the apparent scope of the struggle. But there is alas no real solution =
to the Hooded One's threat.

This issue was reprinted under the Modern imprint in the late 70's.

More to come.=20

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The latest issue of Alter Ego (due out today) features a long-delayed artic=
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Thunderbolt #59 is dated September 1967. The cover for this issue is by Pet=
e Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym and it's the last work he did for Charl=
ton directly on Thunderbolt. With this issue the art chores are given to Pa=
t Boyette who filled in on an issue previously and who does both the drawin=
g and writing on this last-minute fill-in issue.

"Assassins" is the title of this story. (And while the official special cas=
e numbers for the stories gets dropped, I will still use them as markers fo=
r the remaining T-Bolt stories.) The tale begins with an introduction to th=
e Hooded One who we see sans his hood for the first time. His scarred face =
is nonetheless still obscured by a wide-brimmed hat. The setting is Morley'=
s Wax Museum in London, England and after Mr.Morley closes up he is assault=
ed by the Hooded One and an accomplice who steal three wax dummies and then=
 burn down the museum to cover their crime. The pair take the dummies into =
the depths of underground London as the Hooded One plots his revenge. (Note=
: Pages 1 and 2 are flipped in this book. I'll have to be honest and say th=
at I don't think it really impacts the story all that much.)

Meanwhile Peter Cannon and Tabu are aboard the S.S.Manson heading from Amer=
ican to England and Tabu is a little seasick. Peter is coming to London on =
a writing assignment. The scene shifts back to the underground lair of the =
Hooded One where he has returned to his familiar robes and we see that his =
stolen wax dummies resemble a 30's gangster, an ancient sword-wielding warr=
ior, and the Minotaur. He claims to be able to bring these dummies to life =
to bring about his revenge on T-Bolt.

As Peter and Tabu check into their hotel suddenly the gangster dummy of Mac=
hine Gun O'Brien attacks with his tommy gun and only Peter's quick reflexes=
 save the day as he knocks the dummy's head off, and they discover their at=
tacker is wax. The Hooded One is keeping track of this attack in a mysterio=
us pool and immediately dispatches Barbo the Deadly, the ancient warrior.

Peter and Tabu prepare to go to see the sights of London, but while Peter p=
lans on Tower Bridge, Tabu wants to check out the Purple Panic, a mod hango=
ut. Tabu suggests that T-Bolts costume will fit in well with the mod fashio=
ns of the day. Nonetheless Peter wears an overcoat and they go to enjoy the=
 music of The Scorpions at the Purple Panic. While there Barbo attacks but =
is quickly defeated by T-Bolt who disassembles the dummy. The Hooded One is=
 furious and sends his henchman to lure T-Bolt to his lair and the prepares=
 the Minotaur dummy.

Despite knowing it's a trap T-Bolt and Tabu head into the lair and T-Bolt f=
inds himself battling the Minotaur, but using a torch he melts the monstrou=
s opponent, as the Hooded One escapes vowing to get his revenge another tim=
e. Back at the Crown Hotel, Tabu begins to record the adventure, but Peter =
stops him saying it's too absurd. And Tabu agrees that no editor will touch=
 such a lame story, but then Peter asks him if he's ever heard of a guy nam=
ed "Dick Giordano".

"Thunderbolts" offers up three fan letters. One is full of praise for the b=
ook though the static nature of the covers is bothersome, another offers to=
 buy back issues of Charlton if other fans will send lists, and the third r=
eally likes T-Bolt and will fight to defend his honor as an exciting and or=
iginal character. An editor's note confirms that P.A.M. is no longer workin=
g on Thunderbolt due to time constraints for such a long regular story, tho=
ugh there is indications that he will be working on westerns in the future.=
 Pat Boyette is announced as the new artist and praised for the speedy way =
he turned around the current issue. Sergius O'Shaugnessy is announced as th=
e new regular scripter for the title.

The Sensational Sentinels begin their final installment titled "Night of Do=
om" with Crunch (Brute) Wilson on the verge of pushing a button that will d=
estory the minds of Cindy (Mentalia) Carson and Rick (Helio) Strong. The st=
ory is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil's pseudonym) and drawn=
 by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is listed as editor.

Before Crunch can push the button though, Rick draws the Mind-Bender into r=
evealing his plot and his past. He says that the minds of Rick and Cindy wi=
ll be put into two more Titan androids and they will be under his control. =
With these soldiers and more like them he will gain great riches. He indica=
tes that he was a research scientist who during a "brain wave" experiment w=
as struck by electricity and given great mental powers. While the Mind-Bend=
er has been talking though, Rick has spotted one of Brute's power gloves an=
d has been using his flying pack to gain leverage to reach it. With the glo=
ve on, he damages Mind-Bender's machine and he and Cindy get free. Crunch c=
omes to his senses and the trio battle the Mind-Bender who tries to escape.=
 Helio flies and tries to stop him, but they fight with Mind-Bender ultimat=
ely losing his balance and falling to his apparent doom. The lab begins to =
burn and the Sentinels leave through a hole Brute broke open using an inert=
 Titan. The trio escape and wile Crunch wants to go get coffee, Rick and Ci=
ndy walk off together leaving him alone and brooding. This will presumably =
be picked up next issue, but there will not be another Sentinels story.

The book closes with the great "Action-Heroes? We Got'em!!!" house ad featu=
ring Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Captain Atom. Th=
is might just be my favorite house ad of all time.

Surprisingly solid issue given the last-minute nature of the production. Th=
underbolt nears its end of course despite noble efforts of Giordano and com=
pany, the whole Action-Hero line will soon disappear. This story by Boyette=
 has a neat self-consciousness about it giving the tale a bit more whimsy a=
nd humor than usual. The Hooded One's London henchman makes quite a few jok=
es about his role and then Peter's final snippet about Giordano really brea=
ks the fourth wall. This is also reinforced by a fake "memo" used at the be=
ginning of the story from Giordano. So I guess "Dick Giordano" is a charact=
er now in the Charlton universe, just like Stan and Jack and the Bullpenner=
s are in the Marvel Universe.

One more issue to go.

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Rip,
No mention of Sarge Steel in the Sentinels backup story?
Thanks,
Darci




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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0010

=C2=A0=20
Thunderbolt #59 is dated September 1967. The cover for this issue is by Pet=
e Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym and it's the last work he did for Charl=
ton directly on Thunderbolt. With this issue the art chores are given to Pa=
t Boyette who filled in on an issue previously and who does both the drawin=
g and writing on this last-minute fill-in issue.

"Assassins" is the title of this story. (And while the official special cas=
e numbers for the stories gets dropped, I will still use them as markers fo=
r the remaining T-Bolt stories.) The tale begins with an introduction to th=
e Hooded One who we see sans his hood for the first time. His scarred face =
is nonetheless still obscured by a wide-brimmed hat. The setting is Morley'=
s Wax Museum in London, England and after Mr.Morley closes up he is assault=
ed by the Hooded One and an accomplice who steal three wax dummies and then=
 burn down the museum to cover their crime. The pair take the dummies into =
the depths of underground London as the Hooded One plots his revenge. (Note=
: Pages 1 and 2 are flipped in this book. I'll have to be honest and say th=
at I don't think it really impacts the story all that much.)

Meanwhile Peter Cannon and Tabu are aboard the S.S.Manson heading from Amer=
ican to England and Tabu is a little seasick. Peter is coming to London on =
a writing assignment. The scene shifts back to the underground lair of the =
Hooded One where he has returned to his familiar robes and we see that his =
stolen wax dummies resemble a 30's gangster, an ancient sword-wielding warr=
ior, and the Minotaur. He claims to be able to bring these dummies to life =
to bring about his revenge on T-Bolt.

As Peter and Tabu check into their hotel suddenly the gangster dummy of Mac=
hine Gun O'Brien attacks with his tommy gun and only Peter's quick reflexes=
 save the day as he knocks the dummy's head off, and they discover their at=
tacker is wax. The Hooded One is keeping track of this attack in a mysterio=
us pool and immediately dispatches Barbo the Deadly, the ancient warrior.

Peter and Tabu prepare to go to see the sights of London, but while Peter p=
lans on Tower Bridge, Tabu wants to check out the Purple Panic, a mod hango=
ut. Tabu suggests that T-Bolts costume will fit in well with the mod fashio=
ns of the day. Nonetheless Peter wears an overcoat and they go to enjoy the=
 music of The Scorpions at the Purple Panic. While there Barbo attacks but =
is quickly defeated by T-Bolt who disassembles the dummy. The Hooded One is=
 furious and sends his henchman to lure T-Bolt to his lair and the prepares=
 the Minotaur dummy.

Despite knowing it's a trap T-Bolt and Tabu head into the lair and T-Bolt f=
inds himself battling the Minotaur, but using a torch he melts the monstrou=
s opponent, as the Hooded One escapes vowing to get his revenge another tim=
e. Back at the Crown Hotel, Tabu begins to record the adventure, but Peter =
stops him saying it's too absurd. And Tabu agrees that no editor will touch=
 such a lame story, but then Peter asks him if he's ever heard of a guy nam=
ed "Dick Giordano".

"Thunderbolts" offers up three fan letters. One is full of praise for the b=
ook though the static nature of the covers is bothersome, another offers to=
 buy back issues of Charlton if other fans will send lists, and the third r=
eally likes T-Bolt and will fight to defend his honor as an exciting and or=
iginal character. An editor's note confirms that P.A.M. is no longer workin=
g on Thunderbolt due to time constraints for such a long regular story, tho=
ugh there is indications that he will be working on westerns in the future.=
 Pat Boyette is announced as the new artist and praised for the speedy way =
he turned around the current issue. Sergius O'Shaugnessy is announced as th=
e new regular scripter for the title.

The Sensational Sentinels begin their final installment titled "Night of Do=
om" with Crunch (Brute) Wilson on the verge of pushing a button that will d=
estory the minds of Cindy (Mentalia) Carson and Rick (Helio) Strong. The st=
ory is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil's pseudonym) and drawn=
 by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is listed as editor.

Before Crunch can push the button though, Rick draws the Mind-Bender into r=
evealing his plot and his past. He says that the minds of Rick and Cindy wi=
ll be put into two more Titan androids and they will be under his control. =
With these soldiers and more like them he will gain great riches. He indica=
tes that he was a research scientist who during a "brain wave" experiment w=
as struck by electricity and given great mental powers. While the Mind-Bend=
er has been talking though, Rick has spotted one of Brute's power gloves an=
d has been using his flying pack to gain leverage to reach it. With the glo=
ve on, he damages Mind-Bender' s machine and he and Cindy get free. Crunch =
comes to his senses and the trio battle the Mind-Bender who tries to escape=
. Helio flies and tries to stop him, but they fight with Mind-Bender ultima=
tely losing his balance and falling to his apparent doom. The lab begins to=
 burn and the Sentinels leave through a hole Brute broke open using
 an inert Titan. The trio escape and wile Crunch wants to go get coffee, Ri=
ck and Cindy walk off together leaving him alone and brooding. This will pr=
esumably be picked up next issue, but there will not be another Sentinels s=
tory.

The book closes with the great "Action-Heroes? We Got'em!!!" house ad featu=
ring Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Captain Atom. Th=
is might just be my favorite house ad of all time.

Surprisingly solid issue given the last-minute nature of the production. Th=
underbolt nears its end of course despite noble efforts of Giordano and com=
pany, the whole Action-Hero line will soon disappear. This story by Boyette=
 has a neat self-consciousness about it giving the tale a bit more whimsy a=
nd humor than usual. The Hooded One's London henchman makes quite a few jok=
es about his role and then Peter's final snippet about Giordano really brea=
ks the fourth wall. This is also reinforced by a fake "memo" used at the be=
ginning of the story from Giordano. So I guess "Dick Giordano" is a charact=
er now in the Charlton universe, just like Stan and Jack and the Bullpenner=
s are in the Marvel Universe.

One more issue to go.

Rip Off





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Was there a reason Morisi didn't continue with the book?=C2=A0 Did Charlton=
 pull the plug, and Morisi just quit when that happened, or did Morisi quit=
 the book, and Charlton discontinue the book because of that?=C2=A0 Which i=
s cause/effect here?=C2=A0 Anyone know?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0010
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:29 AM


=C2=A0=20



Thunderbolt #59 is dated September 1967. The cover for this issue is by Pet=
e Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym and it's the last work he did for Charl=
ton directly on Thunderbolt. With this issue the art chores are given to Pa=
t Boyette who filled in on an issue previously and who does both the drawin=
g and writing on this last-minute fill-in issue.

"Assassins" is the title of this story. (And while the official special cas=
e numbers for the stories gets dropped, I will still use them as markers fo=
r the remaining T-Bolt stories.) The tale begins with an introduction to th=
e Hooded One who we see sans his hood for the first time. His scarred face =
is nonetheless still obscured by a wide-brimmed hat. The setting is Morley'=
s Wax Museum in London, England and after Mr.Morley closes up he is assault=
ed by the Hooded One and an accomplice who steal three wax dummies and then=
 burn down the museum to cover their crime. The pair take the dummies into =
the depths of underground London as the Hooded One plots his revenge. (Note=
: Pages 1 and 2 are flipped in this book. I'll have to be honest and say th=
at I don't think it really impacts the story all that much.)

Meanwhile Peter Cannon and Tabu are aboard the S.S.Manson heading from Amer=
ican to England and Tabu is a little seasick. Peter is coming to London on =
a writing assignment. The scene shifts back to the underground lair of the =
Hooded One where he has returned to his familiar robes and we see that his =
stolen wax dummies resemble a 30's gangster, an ancient sword-wielding warr=
ior, and the Minotaur. He claims to be able to bring these dummies to life =
to bring about his revenge on T-Bolt.

As Peter and Tabu check into their hotel suddenly the gangster dummy of Mac=
hine Gun O'Brien attacks with his tommy gun and only Peter's quick reflexes=
 save the day as he knocks the dummy's head off, and they discover their at=
tacker is wax. The Hooded One is keeping track of this attack in a mysterio=
us pool and immediately dispatches Barbo the Deadly, the ancient warrior.

Peter and Tabu prepare to go to see the sights of London, but while Peter p=
lans on Tower Bridge, Tabu wants to check out the Purple Panic, a mod hango=
ut. Tabu suggests that T-Bolts costume will fit in well with the mod fashio=
ns of the day. Nonetheless Peter wears an overcoat and they go to enjoy the=
 music of The Scorpions at the Purple Panic. While there Barbo attacks but =
is quickly defeated by T-Bolt who disassembles the dummy. The Hooded One is=
 furious and sends his henchman to lure T-Bolt to his lair and the prepares=
 the Minotaur dummy.

Despite knowing it's a trap T-Bolt and Tabu head into the lair and T-Bolt f=
inds himself battling the Minotaur, but using a torch he melts the monstrou=
s opponent, as the Hooded One escapes vowing to get his revenge another tim=
e. Back at the Crown Hotel, Tabu begins to record the adventure, but Peter =
stops him saying it's too absurd. And Tabu agrees that no editor will touch=
 such a lame story, but then Peter asks him if he's ever heard of a guy nam=
ed "Dick Giordano".

"Thunderbolts" offers up three fan letters. One is full of praise for the b=
ook though the static nature of the covers is bothersome, another offers to=
 buy back issues of Charlton if other fans will send lists, and the third r=
eally likes T-Bolt and will fight to defend his honor as an exciting and or=
iginal character. An editor's note confirms that P.A.M. is no longer workin=
g on Thunderbolt due to time constraints for such a long regular story, tho=
ugh there is indications that he will be working on westerns in the future.=
 Pat Boyette is announced as the new artist and praised for the speedy way =
he turned around the current issue. Sergius O'Shaugnessy is announced as th=
e new regular scripter for the title.

The Sensational Sentinels begin their final installment titled "Night of Do=
om" with Crunch (Brute) Wilson on the verge of pushing a button that will d=
estory the minds of Cindy (Mentalia) Carson and Rick (Helio) Strong. The st=
ory is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil's pseudonym) and drawn=
 by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is listed as editor.

Before Crunch can push the button though, Rick draws the Mind-Bender into r=
evealing his plot and his past. He says that the minds of Rick and Cindy wi=
ll be put into two more Titan androids and they will be under his control. =
With these soldiers and more like them he will gain great riches. He indica=
tes that he was a research scientist who during a "brain wave" experiment w=
as struck by electricity and given great mental powers. While the Mind-Bend=
er has been talking though, Rick has spotted one of Brute's power gloves an=
d has been using his flying pack to gain leverage to reach it. With the glo=
ve on, he damages Mind-Bender' s machine and he and Cindy get free. Crunch =
comes to his senses and the trio battle the Mind-Bender who tries to escape=
. Helio flies and tries to stop him, but they fight with Mind-Bender ultima=
tely losing his balance and falling to his apparent doom. The lab begins to=
 burn and the Sentinels leave through a hole Brute broke open using
 an inert Titan. The trio escape and wile Crunch wants to go get coffee, Ri=
ck and Cindy walk off together leaving him alone and brooding. This will pr=
esumably be picked up next issue, but there will not be another Sentinels s=
tory.

The book closes with the great "Action-Heroes? We Got'em!!!" house ad featu=
ring Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Captain Atom. Th=
is might just be my favorite house ad of all time.

Surprisingly solid issue given the last-minute nature of the production. Th=
underbolt nears its end of course despite noble efforts of Giordano and com=
pany, the whole Action-Hero line will soon disappear. This story by Boyette=
 has a neat self-consciousness about it giving the tale a bit more whimsy a=
nd humor than usual. The Hooded One's London henchman makes quite a few jok=
es about his role and then Peter's final snippet about Giordano really brea=
ks the fourth wall. This is also reinforced by a fake "memo" used at the be=
ginning of the story from Giordano. So I guess "Dick Giordano" is a charact=
er now in the Charlton universe, just like Stan and Jack and the Bullpenner=
s are in the Marvel Universe.

One more issue to go.

Rip Off









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Thunderbolt #60 is dated November, 1967. The new team is in place. Pat Boye=
tte produced the cover image and there's also a new logo for this final iss=
ue of the series. It is noted in the letters page that the cover features f=
ewer captions and more action.

"When Flies the Dragon" (Special Case Number 0011 for this report's purpose=
s) is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil moonlighting at Charlto=
n under a pseudonym) with artwork by Pat Boyette. Dick Giordano is listed a=
s the editor. The story begins with a quote from the Chinese sage "I Ching"=
 who is shown on the splash page alongside T-Bolt and his opponent. I get t=
he sense that he is the narrator of sorts for the story.

The tale begins in an airplane headed from New York for Australia where Pet=
er Cannon is going for a writing job. He is seated to next to an obnoxious =
"lady's foundation garment" salesman when the plane is suddenly hijacked an=
d they are flown to a remote location in the Australian bush country. There=
 the passengers encounter The Dragon Master who informs them they are all h=
ostages pending the payment of one million dollars and a hydrogen bomb.

The unfortunate salesman gets lippy with the Dragon Master who uses his fla=
me-jet gun to slay him. Peter and the rest are taken to a dungeon where Pet=
er becomes Thunderbolt. He slips into the compound and defeats many of the =
Dragon Master's men before overhearing a radio message directed to New York=
, a Fu Street, and specifically a place called the "Rooms of Mist". T-Bolt =
overpowers the operator and sends an S.O.S. He is then confronted by the Dr=
agon Master himself but escapes the fury of his Dragon Gun. An airplane hea=
rs the plea for help and wings its way to assist. The sound of the coming p=
lane makes the Dragon Master flee in a helicopter as his henchmen scatter.

Later in the safety of his hotel room Peter calls Tabu and tells him of his=
 suspicions about Chinatown and the "Rooms of the Mist". Peter returns home=
 to find Tabu missing and a note saying that he had investigated the clue. =
Peter surmises Tabu has been captured and becomes Thunderbolt again to save=
 him going into Chinatown. He finds Fu Street and soon finds Tabu and his c=
aptors and quickly defeats them. Confronting Dragon Master again he and Tab=
u are captured and imprisoned in a steam room. T-Bolt uses his great will t=
o tear loose steel struts and uses them to bash open the door. He and Tabu =
escape and T-Bolt races to the roof to confront the Dragon Master again who=
 is once again escaping in a helicopter. T-Bolt breaks loose a television a=
ntennae and blocks the rotors, also causing a leak of fuel. Furious the Dra=
gon Master tries to use his Dragon Gun but forgets the fuel and he and his =
pilot are caught in a fiery explosion. Later Peter and Tabu discuss the cas=
e and remember a cryptic comment made by the Dragon Master of one other he'=
d met who impressed him, and Peter wonders when if ever he might meet this =
other person similar to himself.

"Thunderbolts" offers up six letters this time in a much smaller font that =
typically used. Two of the letters are filled with praise for the new Boyet=
te artwork and look forward to the changes. Two letters express extreme dis=
appointment that P.A.M. was leaving his creation. One writer gets confused =
and thinks that O'Shaugnessy had written the previous issue. And one writer=
 wants the Sentinels replaced. Which the editors say they have all ready do=
ne.

"The Prankster" is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy and drawn by Jim Aparo. =
The editor again is Dick Giordano. Set in the future city of Ultropolis, th=
e Prankster is the enemy of an oppressive state and the the tale begins wit=
h him interfering with an execution using a hot air balloon to rescue the u=
nfortunate prisoner. The balloon is high-tech though and moves very quickly=
. The Prankster leaves the prisoner in the balloon, instructing him how to =
land it and jumps out, to encounter and defeat two soldiers with laughing g=
as before making his escape.

In the palace of the Tyrant Bane, a Captain Ludovic Wratt makes his report =
but instead of getting aid from the leader is forced to beg forgiveness fro=
m a robotic computer with which Bane has a fetish. Meanwhile the Prankster =
slips into the underground of the city to meet Hiram Grave a scientist who =
gives him the technology he uses to battle the government which has outlawe=
d "love, laughter, art...everything that lends dignity to human beings". Gr=
ave gives the Prankster a new device, a magic flute but we do not see its s=
ecret. The scene shifts to the streets again where a girl has been caught b=
y the police spraying graffiti and the Prankster disguised as an old man in=
tervenes. The story ends as the police hold the girl and the Prankster at g=
unpoint. The next chapter is advertised as "The Vengeance of Wratt" but it =
never is fated to appear.

Once again the great "Action-Heroes? We Got 'Em!!!" ad appears that closes =
the book on Thunderbolt at Charlton.

This is the end of T-Bolt and the end of the Action-Heroes as well. Despite=
 the teases in both the Thunderbolt and Prankster stories we never find out=
 what will happen. The Prankster was a series with potential and Aparo's ar=
twork was typically excellent. The Thunderbolt series under O'Neil was goin=
g to be more problematic. Peter changes under O'Neil, becoming more alienat=
ed from his role as Thunderbolt. Whereas Morisi have Cannon show reluctance=
 to don the garb, there was never any doubt both Peter and T-Bolt were the =
same man. With O'Neil there seems to be the idea planted that Peter hates T=
-Bolt and wants to reject utterly what he represents. It's a more extreme t=
reatment of the ideas that Morisi dealt with more quietly. But it is a trea=
tment that will ultimately require a change of premise. But as it turns out=
 it was a moot point.

Thunderbolt was a distinctive series, guided by its creator Morisi and assi=
sted mostly by Boyette, the series offered a hero filled mostly with calm, =
who spoke quietly but always came through. That's a neat counterpoint to th=
e bombast that dominated Marvel at the time. Of all the Action-Heroes T-Bol=
t has been spared the changes at DC, because of the undeniable fact that Mo=
risi created and maintained some degree of control of the character. Thunde=
rbolt is still what Morisi wanted him to be for the most part, and that's n=
o small accomplishment in the world of comics.

No more Thunderbolt to come.=20

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The sense I get both from the letters page comments by Giordano as the book=
 was underway and from Morisi interviews in later days, it was simply that =
he couldn't keep up with the book's page count. Morisi never stopped workin=
g for Charlton, but shifted over to westerns after leaving Thunderbolt. Boy=
ette was much faster apparently and could keep the book on schedule.=20

Something I didn't realize until this reading was that the Sentinels were e=
xpanded as the back up feature to take some of the pressure off Morisi's T-=
Bolt stories.=20

It's a shame he couldn't keep up with the title, but I don't get the sense =
he ever was angry about it, only disappointed.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
>
> Was there a reason Morisi didn't continue with the book?=C2=A0 Did Charlt=
on pull the plug, and Morisi just quit when that happened, or did Morisi qu=
it the book, and Charlton discontinue the book because of that?=C2=A0 Which=
 is cause/effect here?=C2=A0 Anyone know?
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0010
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:29 AM
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thunderbolt #59 is dated September 1967. The cover for this issue is by P=
ete Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym and it's the last work he did for Cha=
rlton directly on Thunderbolt. With this issue the art chores are given to =
Pat Boyette who filled in on an issue previously and who does both the draw=
ing and writing on this last-minute fill-in issue.
>=20
> "Assassins" is the title of this story. (And while the official special c=
ase numbers for the stories gets dropped, I will still use them as markers =
for the remaining T-Bolt stories.) The tale begins with an introduction to =
the Hooded One who we see sans his hood for the first time. His scarred fac=
e is nonetheless still obscured by a wide-brimmed hat. The setting is Morle=
y's Wax Museum in London, England and after Mr.Morley closes up he is assau=
lted by the Hooded One and an accomplice who steal three wax dummies and th=
en burn down the museum to cover their crime. The pair take the dummies int=
o the depths of underground London as the Hooded One plots his revenge. (No=
te: Pages 1 and 2 are flipped in this book. I'll have to be honest and say =
that I don't think it really impacts the story all that much.)
>=20
> Meanwhile Peter Cannon and Tabu are aboard the S.S.Manson heading from Am=
erican to England and Tabu is a little seasick. Peter is coming to London o=
n a writing assignment. The scene shifts back to the underground lair of th=
e Hooded One where he has returned to his familiar robes and we see that hi=
s stolen wax dummies resemble a 30's gangster, an ancient sword-wielding wa=
rrior, and the Minotaur. He claims to be able to bring these dummies to lif=
e to bring about his revenge on T-Bolt.
>=20
> As Peter and Tabu check into their hotel suddenly the gangster dummy of M=
achine Gun O'Brien attacks with his tommy gun and only Peter's quick reflex=
es save the day as he knocks the dummy's head off, and they discover their =
attacker is wax. The Hooded One is keeping track of this attack in a myster=
ious pool and immediately dispatches Barbo the Deadly, the ancient warrior.
>=20
> Peter and Tabu prepare to go to see the sights of London, but while Peter=
 plans on Tower Bridge, Tabu wants to check out the Purple Panic, a mod han=
gout. Tabu suggests that T-Bolts costume will fit in well with the mod fash=
ions of the day. Nonetheless Peter wears an overcoat and they go to enjoy t=
he music of The Scorpions at the Purple Panic. While there Barbo attacks bu=
t is quickly defeated by T-Bolt who disassembles the dummy. The Hooded One =
is furious and sends his henchman to lure T-Bolt to his lair and the prepar=
es the Minotaur dummy.
>=20
> Despite knowing it's a trap T-Bolt and Tabu head into the lair and T-Bolt=
 finds himself battling the Minotaur, but using a torch he melts the monstr=
ous opponent, as the Hooded One escapes vowing to get his revenge another t=
ime. Back at the Crown Hotel, Tabu begins to record the adventure, but Pete=
r stops him saying it's too absurd. And Tabu agrees that no editor will tou=
ch such a lame story, but then Peter asks him if he's ever heard of a guy n=
amed "Dick Giordano".
>=20
> "Thunderbolts" offers up three fan letters. One is full of praise for the=
 book though the static nature of the covers is bothersome, another offers =
to buy back issues of Charlton if other fans will send lists, and the third=
 really likes T-Bolt and will fight to defend his honor as an exciting and =
original character. An editor's note confirms that P.A.M. is no longer work=
ing on Thunderbolt due to time constraints for such a long regular story, t=
hough there is indications that he will be working on westerns in the futur=
e. Pat Boyette is announced as the new artist and praised for the speedy wa=
y he turned around the current issue. Sergius O'Shaugnessy is announced as =
the new regular scripter for the title.
>=20
> The Sensational Sentinels begin their final installment titled "Night of =
Doom" with Crunch (Brute) Wilson on the verge of pushing a button that will=
 destory the minds of Cindy (Mentalia) Carson and Rick (Helio) Strong. The =
story is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil's pseudonym) and dra=
wn by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is listed as editor.
>=20
> Before Crunch can push the button though, Rick draws the Mind-Bender into=
 revealing his plot and his past. He says that the minds of Rick and Cindy =
will be put into two more Titan androids and they will be under his control=
. With these soldiers and more like them he will gain great riches. He indi=
cates that he was a research scientist who during a "brain wave" experiment=
 was struck by electricity and given great mental powers. While the Mind-Be=
nder has been talking though, Rick has spotted one of Brute's power gloves =
and has been using his flying pack to gain leverage to reach it. With the g=
love on, he damages Mind-Bender' s machine and he and Cindy get free. Crunc=
h comes to his senses and the trio battle the Mind-Bender who tries to esca=
pe. Helio flies and tries to stop him, but they fight with Mind-Bender ulti=
mately losing his balance and falling to his apparent doom. The lab begins =
to burn and the Sentinels leave through a hole Brute broke open using
>  an inert Titan. The trio escape and wile Crunch wants to go get coffee, =
Rick and Cindy walk off together leaving him alone and brooding. This will =
presumably be picked up next issue, but there will not be another Sentinels=
 story.
>=20
> The book closes with the great "Action-Heroes? We Got'em!!!" house ad fea=
turing Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Captain Atom. =
This might just be my favorite house ad of all time.
>=20
> Surprisingly solid issue given the last-minute nature of the production. =
Thunderbolt nears its end of course despite noble efforts of Giordano and c=
ompany, the whole Action-Hero line will soon disappear. This story by Boyet=
te has a neat self-consciousness about it giving the tale a bit more whimsy=
 and humor than usual. The Hooded One's London henchman makes quite a few j=
okes about his role and then Peter's final snippet about Giordano really br=
eaks the fourth wall. This is also reinforced by a fake "memo" used at the =
beginning of the story from Giordano. So I guess "Dick Giordano" is a chara=
cter now in the Charlton universe, just like Stan and Jack and the Bullpenn=
ers are in the Marvel Universe.
>=20
> One more issue to go.
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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A very interesting revisit of the Thunderbolt series, which I have always l=
iked since the '60s. Thanks for that.
=20
One question: as we know, at least one more issue of most of the Charlton h=
eroes was produced although unpublished at the time (e.g. Captain Atom 90, =
Blue Beetle 5 & 6, Peacemaker 6), so presumably there was a T-Bolt 61 prepa=
red (also containing part 2 of the Prankster tale) as well as a Judomaster =
99 (with Sarge Steel back-up)? I have never seen anything connected with th=
ese issues written but it would be good to see them if they still exist! Do=
 they?


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PAM was working a full time job as a policeman at the same time he was draw=
ing comics, undoubtedly he'd have continued drawing T-Bolt if he didn't hav=
e that other major commitment on his time.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: PAM On T-Bolt?
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:18 AM


=C2=A0=20



The sense I get both from the letters page comments by Giordano as the book=
 was underway and from Morisi interviews in later days, it was simply that =
he couldn't keep up with the book's page count. Morisi never stopped workin=
g for Charlton, but shifted over to westerns after leaving Thunderbolt. Boy=
ette was much faster apparently and could keep the book on schedule.=20

Something I didn't realize until this reading was that the Sentinels were e=
xpanded as the back up feature to take some of the pressure off Morisi's T-=
Bolt stories.=20

It's a shame he couldn't keep up with the title, but I don't get the sense =
he ever was angry about it, only disappointed.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, Allen Smith <metron12001@ ...> w=
rote:
>
> Was there a reason Morisi didn't continue with the book?=C3=82=C2=A0 Did =
Charlton pull the plug, and Morisi just quit when that happened, or did Mor=
isi quit the book, and Charlton discontinue the book because of that?=C3=82=
=C2=A0 Which is cause/effect here?=C3=82=C2=A0 Anyone know?
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> =C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@. ..> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@. ..>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0010
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:29 AM
>=20
>=20
> =C3=82=C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thunderbolt #59 is dated September 1967. The cover for this issue is by P=
ete Morisi under his P.A.M. pseudonym and it's the last work he did for Cha=
rlton directly on Thunderbolt. With this issue the art chores are given to =
Pat Boyette who filled in on an issue previously and who does both the draw=
ing and writing on this last-minute fill-in issue.
>=20
> "Assassins" is the title of this story. (And while the official special c=
ase numbers for the stories gets dropped, I will still use them as markers =
for the remaining T-Bolt stories.) The tale begins with an introduction to =
the Hooded One who we see sans his hood for the first time. His scarred fac=
e is nonetheless still obscured by a wide-brimmed hat. The setting is Morle=
y's Wax Museum in London, England and after Mr.Morley closes up he is assau=
lted by the Hooded One and an accomplice who steal three wax dummies and th=
en burn down the museum to cover their crime. The pair take the dummies int=
o the depths of underground London as the Hooded One plots his revenge. (No=
te: Pages 1 and 2 are flipped in this book. I'll have to be honest and say =
that I don't think it really impacts the story all that much.)
>=20
> Meanwhile Peter Cannon and Tabu are aboard the S.S.Manson heading from Am=
erican to England and Tabu is a little seasick. Peter is coming to London o=
n a writing assignment. The scene shifts back to the underground lair of th=
e Hooded One where he has returned to his familiar robes and we see that hi=
s stolen wax dummies resemble a 30's gangster, an ancient sword-wielding wa=
rrior, and the Minotaur. He claims to be able to bring these dummies to lif=
e to bring about his revenge on T-Bolt.
>=20
> As Peter and Tabu check into their hotel suddenly the gangster dummy of M=
achine Gun O'Brien attacks with his tommy gun and only Peter's quick reflex=
es save the day as he knocks the dummy's head off, and they discover their =
attacker is wax. The Hooded One is keeping track of this attack in a myster=
ious pool and immediately dispatches Barbo the Deadly, the ancient warrior.
>=20
> Peter and Tabu prepare to go to see the sights of London, but while Peter=
 plans on Tower Bridge, Tabu wants to check out the Purple Panic, a mod han=
gout. Tabu suggests that T-Bolts costume will fit in well with the mod fash=
ions of the day. Nonetheless Peter wears an overcoat and they go to enjoy t=
he music of The Scorpions at the Purple Panic. While there Barbo attacks bu=
t is quickly defeated by T-Bolt who disassembles the dummy. The Hooded One =
is furious and sends his henchman to lure T-Bolt to his lair and the prepar=
es the Minotaur dummy.
>=20
> Despite knowing it's a trap T-Bolt and Tabu head into the lair and T-Bolt=
 finds himself battling the Minotaur, but using a torch he melts the monstr=
ous opponent, as the Hooded One escapes vowing to get his revenge another t=
ime. Back at the Crown Hotel, Tabu begins to record the adventure, but Pete=
r stops him saying it's too absurd. And Tabu agrees that no editor will tou=
ch such a lame story, but then Peter asks him if he's ever heard of a guy n=
amed "Dick Giordano".
>=20
> "Thunderbolts" offers up three fan letters. One is full of praise for the=
 book though the static nature of the covers is bothersome, another offers =
to buy back issues of Charlton if other fans will send lists, and the third=
 really likes T-Bolt and will fight to defend his honor as an exciting and =
original character. An editor's note confirms that P.A.M. is no longer work=
ing on Thunderbolt due to time constraints for such a long regular story, t=
hough there is indications that he will be working on westerns in the futur=
e. Pat Boyette is announced as the new artist and praised for the speedy wa=
y he turned around the current issue. Sergius O'Shaugnessy is announced as =
the new regular scripter for the title.
>=20
> The Sensational Sentinels begin their final installment titled "Night of =
Doom" with Crunch (Brute) Wilson on the verge of pushing a button that will=
 destory the minds of Cindy (Mentalia) Carson and Rick (Helio) Strong. The =
story is written by Sergius O'Shaugnessy (Denny O'Neil's pseudonym) and dra=
wn by Sam Grainger. Dick Giordano is listed as editor.
>=20
> Before Crunch can push the button though, Rick draws the Mind-Bender into=
 revealing his plot and his past. He says that the minds of Rick and Cindy =
will be put into two more Titan androids and they will be under his control=
. With these soldiers and more like them he will gain great riches. He indi=
cates that he was a research scientist who during a "brain wave" experiment=
 was struck by electricity and given great mental powers. While the Mind-Be=
nder has been talking though, Rick has spotted one of Brute's power gloves =
and has been using his flying pack to gain leverage to reach it. With the g=
love on, he damages Mind-Bender' s machine and he and Cindy get free. Crunc=
h comes to his senses and the trio battle the Mind-Bender who tries to esca=
pe. Helio flies and tries to stop him, but they fight with Mind-Bender ulti=
mately losing his balance and falling to his apparent doom. The lab begins =
to burn and the Sentinels leave through a hole Brute broke open
 using
> an inert Titan. The trio escape and wile Crunch wants to go get coffee, R=
ick and Cindy walk off together leaving him alone and brooding. This will p=
resumably be picked up next issue, but there will not be another Sentinels =
story.
>=20
> The book closes with the great "Action-Heroes? We Got'em!!!" house ad fea=
turing Thunderbolt, Peacemaker, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Captain Atom. =
This might just be my favorite house ad of all time.
>=20
> Surprisingly solid issue given the last-minute nature of the production. =
Thunderbolt nears its end of course despite noble efforts of Giordano and c=
ompany, the whole Action-Hero line will soon disappear. This story by Boyet=
te has a neat self-consciousness about it giving the tale a bit more whimsy=
 and humor than usual. The Hooded One's London henchman makes quite a few j=
okes about his role and then Peter's final snippet about Giordano really br=
eaks the fourth wall. This is also reinforced by a fake "memo" used at the =
beginning of the story from Giordano. So I guess "Dick Giordano" is a chara=
cter now in the Charlton universe, just like Stan and Jack and the Bullpenn=
ers are in the Marvel Universe.
>=20
> One more issue to go.
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>









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I'm forwarding this message since it is Charlton Oriented.=C2=A0 I've uploa=
ded the entire Sentinels saga at my Oddball Characters of the Silver Age Gr=
oup.=C2=A0 Thought it might be of interest here.=C2=A0 You might be interes=
ted also to know that these guys were the precursors of the Sentinels of Ju=
stice.=C2=A0 Check out panel three, last page of the first story.=C2=A0 Any=
one nhere not a member of the other group feel free to email me and I'll se=
nd you an invitation. Enjoy.

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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Oddball_Characters_of_the_Silver_Age] The Saga of the Sentinels
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I've posted the compelte story of the Sentinels in the files section. The S=
entinels was a Charlton feature that ran as a back up in issues #54 through=
 #59 of Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt. The series was created by Gary Friedrich=
. The first three chapters were written by Friedrich and drawn by Grainger.=
 The fourth chapter was plotted by Glanzman and written and drawn by Graing=
er. The last two chapters were written by Sergius (Denny O'Neil) O'Shaugnes=
sy and drawn by Grainger, with all chapters being edtited by Dick Giordano.=
 This, I think, like all the Charlton heroes could have been a hit if allow=
ed to advance. What most people may not know is that this group was actuall=
y the precursor to the Sentinels of Justice --- no, really. Forget the one-=
shot with Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and the Question. Forget th=
e AC comics series. This was the first appearance of the Sentinels of Justi=
ce. You think not? Check out panel three of the last page of the
 first chapter where Rick Strong says: "We shall be, as Dr. Kolotov put it.=
....THE SENTINELS--of Justice!" That's the story Pussycats?









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John,
Thanks, this adds a lot to Rip's synopses.
Darci




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I'm forwarding this message since it is Charlton Oriented.=C2=A0 I've uploa=
ded the entire Sentinels saga at my Oddball Characters of the Silver Age Gr=
oup.=C2=A0 Thought it might be of interest here.=C2=A0 You might be interes=
ted also to know that these guys were the precursors of the Sentinels of Ju=
stice.=C2=A0 Check out panel three, last page of the first story.=C2=A0 Any=
one here not a member of the other group feel free to email me and I'll sen=
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From: Reuben Reuben <redrubeheyrube@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [Oddball_Characters _of_the_Silver_ Age] The Saga of the Sentinels
To: Oddball_Characters_ of_the_Silver_ Age@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:14 AM

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I've posted the complete story of the Sentinels in the files section. The S=
entinels was a Charlton feature that ran as a back up in issues #54 through=
 #59 of Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt. The series was created by Gary Friedrich=
. The first three chapters were written by Friedrich and drawn by Grainger.=
 The fourth chapter was plotted by Glanzman and written and drawn by Graing=
er. The last two chapters were written by Sergius (Denny O'Neil) O'Shaugnes=
sy and drawn by Grainger, with all chapters being edtited by Dick Giordano.=
 This, I think, like all the Charlton heroes could have been a hit if allow=
ed to advance. What most people may not know is that this group was actuall=
y the precursor to the Sentinels of Justice --- no, really. Forget the one-=
shot with Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and the Question. Forget th=
e AC comics series. This was the first appearance of the Sentinels of Justi=
ce. You think not? Check out panel three of the last page of the
first chapter where Rick Strong says: "We shall be, as Dr. Kolotov put it..=
...THE SENTINELS--of Justice!" That's the story Pussycats?

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With Thunderbolt completed it's time to begin with another Action-Hero draw=
n by Pat Boyette. Peacemaker debuted in the Fightin'5 before getting his ow=
n debut number one issue. Here is a review of his first two appearances.

Fightin' 5 #40 is dated November 1966. The lead story is titled "The Agents=
 of D.E.A.T.H." written by Joe Gill with art by the team of Bill Montes and=
 Ernie Bache. But that's not my focus today. The back up for this comic was=
 the debut of The Peacemaker, a new hero written by Joe Gill and drawn by P=
at Boyette.

The debut story is titled "Introducing: The Peacemaker" and we meet on the =
splash both out hero and his alter ego Christopher Smith, a weapons maker, =
a government envoy, and a man of peace. We first meet Smith as he's boardin=
g a plane to fly to Geneva for an arms conference. On his mind are tensions=
 in South America being provoked by a man named Emil Bork, a man who agitat=
es conflict to develop markets for his weapons. After landing Smith is bein=
g driven to the conference when his limousine comes under attack directed b=
y Bork himself. Agents attempt to steal Smith's attache case but deadly gas=
 forestalls that plan. Smith and his female companion recover as Bork escap=
es. At the embassy dinner later that evening Smith is introduced to Bork an=
d the men exchange barbs but maintain civility.

Smith realizes that legal channels will not be enough to stop Bork so he sl=
ips into a secret basement storage area where are kept some of his most pot=
ent weapons. He dons the garb of the Peacemaker, actually light armor. He u=
ses his jet pack to fly to intercept Bork's next operation to kidnap member=
s of the peace commission and arrives in time. After battling several thugs=
 successfully Peacemaker must use the laser beam in his helmet to defeat th=
e final thug, forcing him to reveal Bork's location which it turns out is i=
n the air in a bomber. Peacemaker intercepts the bomber but Bork fires a mi=
ssle which explodes near Peacemaker knocking him out of the sky.

Fightin' 5 #41 is dated January, 1967. The lead story titled "Monster from =
the Abyss" is written again by Joe Gill and Montes and Bache are back on th=
e art. The Peacemaker back-up story though is again written by Joe Gill and=
 drawn by Pat Boyette.

The story titled "The War Peddler" picks up with Peacemaker falling out of =
the sky having gotten too close to an exploding missile during his attempts=
 to stop a malicious weapons maker named Emil Bork. While Bork escapes in h=
is bomber, Peacemaker falls but at the last possible moment recovers and ge=
ts his jet pack to fire saving his life. Later in the U-X a secret jet airp=
lane Christopher Smith leaves Europe and flies to South America using a sec=
ret C.I.A. landing strip. He again confronts Bork at a dinner, this one hel=
d by President Lecoyo who is entertaining Bork, but who is about to be betr=
ayed by him. Smith and Bork again exchange barbs but Bork proceeds with his=
 plan, which calls for the American embassy to be attacked. This causes Smi=
th to confront Bork who orders him shot as he escapes in a helicopter. Smit=
h avoids the bullets and becomes Peacemaker again having brought the necess=
ary equipment and uniform in his attache case.

He flies to intercept Bork's forces, a private army which will trigger resp=
onses from both sides and uses nerve gas to paralyze them. Bork orders atom=
ic missiles be fired on the capitol cities, insuring a war. Four missiles r=
ace for their targets and Peacemaker is able to intercept three using his l=
aser to melt their casings and allowing the radioactive material in the war=
heads to dissipate harmlessly. He then takes control and directs the fourth=
 missile to home in on Bork's plane and blows the villain from the sky. The=
 story closes as Christopher Smith boards a plane and heads home.

These were the last two issues of Fightin' 5, but that's not the end of Pea=
cemaker.

The irony inherent in the Peacemaker strip is all too obvious. It's basic p=
remise is one that few people would disagree with, that military strength c=
an create zones of peace if correctly leveraged. But Christopher Smith in t=
his story is clearly a man of paradox. He creates incredibly lethal weapons=
 but constantly claims to act in the name of peace. He is not hesitant to k=
ill his enemies on the battlefield, and in the course of this story uses a =
host of weapons including both nuclear and chemical agents to gain his ends=
. There is a grit and a focus to his mission which make him compelling at t=
ime. But there is also a high mindedness to Peacemaker that makes him easy =
to lampoon, and I can only assume this is why DC has had such a difficult t=
ime finding a role for the character, playing as a madman at times.

More to come.=20

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The Peacemaker Vol.3 #1 is dated March, 1967. Pat Boyette is the artist on =
the first two stories and the cover. There is no writer listed for the stor=
ies but presumably Joe Gill is responsible.

The first of two Peacemaker stories is titled "The Killer on the Reef!" and=
 begins with American envoy Christopher Smith heading to the west coast and=
 boards a trawler to investigate recent mysterious incidents of vandalism a=
nd destruction among the fishing fleets of the world, and the sinking of sh=
ips is attributed to some power other than the governments of the world. As=
 the trawler heads to its location a scuba diver begins to destroy the nets=
 with explosives and attaches one to the ship itself. The scuba diver then =
announces to the ship's captain that "The Commodore" is responsible and the=
 ship will be destroyed in one minute.

Christopher Smith becomes Peacemaker and using special undersea gear dives =
into the sea to confront the attacker and prevent the bomb from doing its d=
eadly work. He detaches the bomb and sends it into a school of deadly shark=
s. He follows the deadly diver to a mysterious submarine and after dispatch=
ing him goes himself into the sub to confront The Commodore. He meets the l=
eader who claims all the wealth of the oceans is his and he will kill to ma=
intain his claim. Peacemaker uses his helmet laser to destroy key equipment=
 and the sub begins to suffer small explosions. It surfaces and the men dis=
embark just before the whole shebang goes up. The Commodore, now in custody=
, explains that in mere days he would've met another at the south pole and =
together they would've ruled the world. Smith ends the story wondering abou=
t this new threat.

"Peacemaker Patter" written by Dick Giordano, the editor, explains how Peac=
emaker is a revised version of the defunct Fightin' 5 comic which had featu=
red Peacemaker in its last few issues. Now the tables are turned and Peacem=
aker is the lead and a revised Fightin' 5 is the back-up feature. There is =
also a biography of artist Pat Boyette (presumably written by the artist hi=
mself) along with a photo.

The second Peacemaker story is titled "The Hidden Power". It begins with Ch=
ristopher Smith getting slapped by the ambassador of a seemingly innocuous =
Balkan country under the sway of the Soviet Union. This challenge is inexpl=
icable unless the country has gained some great power, and reconnaissance d=
oes indicate that the country has new planes and nuclear capabilities. Beco=
ming Peacemaker, Christopher Smith uses his own experimental jet to fly to =
the area where he encounters a cargo plane he finds curious. He follows it =
and discovers a base at the south pole, an expansive base hidden in the dep=
ths of the ice.

His plane is detected and a heat-seeking missile is dispatched, but Peacema=
ker cuts off the power to his plane and deploys a flare which lures away th=
e missile and in fact brings it to home where it destroys those who launche=
d it. Meanwhile Peacemaker's plane uses a parachute to land safely. On the =
ground he encounters troops but uses non-lethal nerve gas to defeat the gua=
rds and he descends into the complex through a shaft which becomes a hellis=
h endurance test as massive heat from the nuclear furnaces is vented throug=
h there. He survives the ordeal and arrives at the bottom and quickly destr=
oys the facility and returns home. With the capability destroyed the Balkan=
 ambassador is quick to apologize to a polite Christopher Smith.

The Fightin' 5 are back in a story titled "Ruler of Darkness" presumably wr=
itten by Joe Gill and featuring artwork by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The=
 action begins right in the middle as a Balkan dictator named Leontid Jrozv=
a has his agent Sonya hold Hank Hennessey(FF4), the leader of the F5 at bay=
 while he describes his attempts to pressure the major powers to go to war =
as they ought. Sonya shoots Hennessey, but it proves to be a ruse as she ra=
dios Irv "The Nerve" Haganah (FF2) that he should meet her at a graveyard w=
here they uncover Hennessey's casket to find him rather fit. Hank radios Fr=
enchy the Fox(FF1) who is flying above and who lands to pick them up. An en=
emy jet appears and Hank fires a pistol but one loaded with special anti-ai=
rcraft ammunition that destroys the enemy.

The team then heads back to base where they debrief Sonya who indicates tha=
t the dictator has missiles and that they should both inform their respecti=
ve governments. The Fightin' 5 plus Sonya then parachute back into the regi=
on and Hank and Irv destroy the dictator's capability to fire missiles by d=
estroying the master communications array. But the electricity involved is =
deadly and kills Irv and seriously injures Hank, destroying his arm and one=
 eye. Sonya then uses a destruct switch to destroy the dictator's base. The=
 Fightin' 5 carry their dead and wounded home as the story ends.

This comic was reprinted in the late 70's under the Modern imprint.

This is a solid issue of entertainment. Pat Boyette produces some dandy wor=
k. The plots are a wee bit creaky in places, presumably rushed given the le=
ngth of the stories. Either of these stories could easily have been expande=
d to fill the whole issue. I assume these are stories all ready produced fo=
r back up in the canceled Fightin' 5 comic. There is less braying about pea=
ce in these tales, and Peacemaker comes off as what he mostly is, a private=
 soldier and agent who acts in what he believes to be the immediate best in=
terests of world order, if not world peace necessarily. It is peculiar that=
 in the second story he's actually fighting to maintain the balance of terr=
or between the superpowers.

The Fightin' 5 story suffers from some clumsy storytelling but does pack a =
lot of change to the status quo into a very few pages. The death of Irv was=
 a big deal to me when I first read this issue many years ago in the Modern=
 reprint. Even at that late date the unheralded death of a main character w=
as very unusual, and I can only assume it was more the case in the 60's whe=
n this story first appeared.

More to come.=20

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The Peacemaker #2 is dated May, 1967. Again we have three stories, two feat=
uring the Peacemaker. Again I assume these were stories produced originally=
 as back ups for the defunct Fightin' 5 comic and now are gathered under Th=
e Peacemaker title. Pat Boyette is on the art chores for the lead feature a=
s well as the excellent cover. Joe Gill is the writer of all the stories th=
ough there is no credit in the comic.

"The Survivors" is the first story and begins with Christopher Smith inspec=
ting a uranium processing complex in an Balkanesque unnamed country. He not=
es that guards are posted and their weapons are pointed at the source of th=
e uranium, a mine opening. He investigates adn soon finds himself under att=
ack by mysterious pale beings who don't appear to have faces. They know who=
 Smith is and the leader named Beel shows Smith a vast underground city. It=
 seems these are the slave laborers who worked in the mine, and who have be=
en transformed by the radioactivity they had to endure. Further they discov=
ered this lost city and some awesome weapons with which they plan to overwh=
elm their former masters and invade the upper world. They will also used a =
strange power to changed their appearance and Beel changes to look like Chr=
istopher Smith. Smith takes a chance to escape becomes Peacemaker but is so=
on captured and caged. As he watches the former slaves transform into looka=
likes for the leaders of the world. Peacemaker uses a bomb to free himself =
and he stops their underground mole machine with his powerful helmet laser.=
 It explodes and sets off a chain reaction in the cave due to its peculiar =
reflective nature. The entire underground domain explodes as Peacemaker fli=
es back to the surface, and destroys the dangerous mine.

"Peacemaker Patter" gives us a look at two creators, two bios written by th=
e subjects. First is a bio and photo of the ubiquitous Joe Gill written wit=
h a great deal of deprecating humor. My favorite involves the "generous" na=
ture of Charlton. Ernie Bache writes his own bio and also provides a pictur=
e. There is a note that the next issue of Peacemaker will feature a full-le=
ngth story, and that his origin will soon be addressed. Also a shout-out by=
 editor Dick Giordano is given for the new Blue Beetle book.

"The Ultimatum" is the second Peacemaker story and begins with Christopher =
Smith delivering a warning to Premier Gekk, a corrupt leader in Central Asi=
a, building a vast military force. Smith along with his secretary return to=
 their chalet and Smith reports and urges that military action be anticipat=
ed against Gekk's forces. During a parade intended to show military strengt=
h Gekk reveals his vast and swift air fleet armed with great cannons which =
fires atomic shells. Smith becomes Peacemaker and flies to his own experime=
ntal aircraft and flies into the sky to intercept Gekk's forces. His jet's =
greater speed proves superior and he destroys several of the enemy planes a=
nd causes the balance of the attacking force to fly into their own base des=
troying the threat. He then uses a non-deadly nerve gas to disable the bala=
nce of Gekk's ground troops.

The Fightin' 5 are back in a story with no title, drawn by the team of Bill=
 Montes and Ernie Bache, that picks up some time after the events of the pr=
evious adventure which resulted in the disabling of Hank Hennessey and the =
death of Irv "The Nerve". The remaining member (Tom Tom, French the Fox, an=
d Granite) discuss events with leader Hennessey who now has one arm and wea=
rs an eye patch, and has become a desk jockey. They use a computer to selec=
t the replacement for Irv and surprisingly the choice is Sonya the Soviet a=
gent who helped in the last adventure. They are suspicious, but can only fo=
llow orders as the team heads into the north to investigate a Communist ins=
tallation which seems to pose a threat. They investigate using air packs bu=
t soon are captured. It appears that Sonya betrayed them and they feel vind=
icated if annoyed at that turn of events. But Sonya is merely pretending an=
d helps the team to escape and destroy the base before flying back to home =
base. Nonetheless the others plan to watch her closely.

This issue also has another great house ad, prominently featuring the Peace=
maker.

Peacemaker really comes across as a one-man army in this issue, especially =
the second story. The impassive way that Boyette draws Christopher Smith ma=
kes him rather reflective and more than a bit spooky. Boyette reportedly di=
d not like to do superheroes, finding the slug fests boring to draw. In Pea=
cemaker he doesn't do much in the way of hand-to-hand but instead has Peace=
maker use some very high tech to dominate his enemies. That laser is provin=
g to be very potent.

This comic was reprinted in the late 70's under the Modern imprint.

More to come.

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Folks here might be especially interested in two portions of the Frank McLa=
ughlin interview:
=C2=A0
Prof: I was going to ask you how on earth you survived on Charlton's rates =
when you worked for them.=20
FM: Well, the thing is, you couldn't. That was after the flood. They had a =
big flood up there in the Housatonic River Valley and it gave Santangelo, w=
ho owned the place, a chance to say, "Geez, Uncle Sam, we're broke here and=
 we need money to rebuild." They're right next to the river, so the governm=
ent coughed up a lot of money to him and he in turn downgraded everybody's =
salaries, crying poor mouth. Well, he cleaned up. This was before I went th=
ere. It was probably in the 50s, I guess. Joe Gill, who was a very good fri=
end of mine, I sat next to him for years, was making $400.00 a week as a wr=
iter, which was unheard of. He was writing pretty much everything that they=
 published. He said, "Well, I'll just have to work harder." He was getting =
$4.00 a page and he was typing 100 pages a week. I can't even write that fa=
st.=20
Prof: It's astounding.=20
FM: He'd be able to talk to you while he was typing. I couldn't believe it.=
 He was a radio operator in the service. One of the best, I'm sure. He coul=
d just type and talk at the same time. I don't know how the hell he did it.=
=20
=C2=A0
-and-
Prof: Jim Shooter told me a similar story about giving Steve (Ditko) an ass=
ignment and he came in one day and dropped it on his desk and said he could=
n't do it because it represented a sub stratum world or something and it we=
nt against his beliefs as an Aristotilan.=20
FM: Okay. I don't think I've spoken to him directly since then. I still don=
't know the point of it all. I just don't know. The sad part is that's not =
the old Steve Ditko we knew back when. Ping-pong games and card games and J=
ohn Santangelo and Joe Gill played cards against each other all the time. J=
ohn would cheat and Joe would roll over once in awhile because John was sig=
ning his paycheck. I've got a story for you. As you mentioned we weren't ma=
king the highest rates at Charlton, God forbid, so we all had to use a litt=
le subterfuge. We were working under different names. Somebody blew the whi=
stle. Somebody I guess who wasn't getting work under a different name and t=
old about what was going on to John Santangelo and John had a rule that you=
 could not do freelance work if you were an employee of Charlton. So Joe Gi=
ll gets called in first. He was working under about five names. (Chuckle.) =
That was one of the ways he was able to pull down his $400.00 a
 week. Pat Masulli was the boss at the time and he was letting us get away =
with it because he was doing the same thing. So Joe knocks on Santangelo's =
door and John says, "Who is it?" "It's Joe Gill." He said, "Come on in, boy=
s." (Mutual laughter.) Joe said, "I knew the jig was up then." One guy was =
having his brother pose as him and he couldn't draw, so they called him dow=
n and John puts a pencil and a piece of paper in front of him and says to d=
raw him a picture of some character. He draws the worst picture you ever sa=
w. John looked at it and said, "Well, you're okay." (Laughter.) The guy cam=
e back laughing his ass off. "Well, I passed the test."=20


=C2=A0



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=C2=A0=20
At the conclusion of review #238, The Joker #7's "Luthor-You' re Driving
Me Sane!", the Sage chats with the tale's inker Frank McLaughlin.

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Ha.=C2=A0 Nice story!
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [SA-GA] Frank McLaughlin Interview
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Cc: TheIndies01Universe@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:33 PM


=C2=A0=20



Folks here might be especially interested in two portions of the Frank McLa=
ughlin interview:
=C2=A0
Prof: I was going to ask you how on earth you survived on Charlton's rates =
when you worked for them.=20
FM: Well, the thing is, you couldn't. That was after the flood. They had a =
big flood up there in the Housatonic River Valley and it gave Santangelo, w=
ho owned the place, a chance to say, "Geez, Uncle Sam, we're broke here and=
 we need money to rebuild." They're right next to the river, so the governm=
ent coughed up a lot of money to him and he in turn downgraded everybody's =
salaries, crying poor mouth. Well, he cleaned up. This was before I went th=
ere. It was probably in the 50s, I guess. Joe Gill, who was a very good fri=
end of mine, I sat next to him for years, was making $400.00 a week as a wr=
iter, which was unheard of. He was writing pretty much everything that they=
 published. He said, "Well, I'll just have to work harder." He was getting =
$4.00 a page and he was typing 100 pages a week. I can't even write that fa=
st.=20
Prof: It's astounding.=20
FM: He'd be able to talk to you while he was typing. I couldn't believe it.=
 He was a radio operator in the service. One of the best, I'm sure. He coul=
d just type and talk at the same time. I don't know how the hell he did it.=
=20
=C2=A0
-and-
Prof: Jim Shooter told me a similar story about giving Steve (Ditko) an ass=
ignment and he came in one day and dropped it on his desk and said he could=
n't do it because it represented a sub stratum world or something and it we=
nt against his beliefs as an Aristotilan.=20
FM: Okay. I don't think I've spoken to him directly since then. I still don=
't know the point of it all. I just don't know. The sad part is that's not =
the old Steve Ditko we knew back when. Ping-pong games and card games and J=
ohn Santangelo and Joe Gill played cards against each other all the time. J=
ohn would cheat and Joe would roll over once in awhile because John was sig=
ning his paycheck. I've got a story for you. As you mentioned we weren't ma=
king the highest rates at Charlton, God forbid, so we all had to use a litt=
le subterfuge. We were working under different names. Somebody blew the whi=
stle. Somebody I guess who wasn't getting work under a different name and t=
old about what was going on to John Santangelo and John had a rule that you=
 could not do freelance work if you were an employee of Charlton. So Joe Gi=
ll gets called in first. He was working under about five names. (Chuckle.) =
That was one of the ways he was able to pull down his $400.00 a
week. Pat Masulli was the boss at the time and he was letting us get away w=
ith it because he was doing the same thing. So Joe knocks on Santangelo's d=
oor and John says, "Who is it?" "It's Joe Gill." He said, "Come on in, boys=
." (Mutual laughter.) Joe said, "I knew the jig was up then." One guy was h=
aving his brother pose as him and he couldn't draw, so they called him down=
 and John puts a pencil and a piece of paper in front of him and says to dr=
aw him a picture of some character. He draws the worst picture you ever saw=
. John looked at it and said, "Well, you're okay." (Laughter.) The guy came=
 back laughing his ass off. "Well, I passed the test."=20

=C2=A0

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "norone@webtv. net" <norone@webtv. net>
To: SilverAge_GoldenAge @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 11:04:44 PM
Subject: [SA-GA] Frank McLaughlin Interview

=C2=A0=20
At the conclusion of review #238, The Joker #7's "Luthor-You' re Driving
Me Sane!", the Sage chats with the tale's inker Frank McLaughlin.

http://www.wtv- zone.com/ silverager/ CSHTML/sas. shtml

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The Peacemaker #3 is dated July, 1967. Dick Giordano is listed as editor fo=
r the first time on the lead feature, and Joe Gill gets his first credit as=
 the writer. He is referred to later in the letters page as the creator of =
Peacemaker. Pat Boyette is the illustrator and he did the cover.

"Our Future World" begins by describing Gerda Hain, world beauty and scient=
ist, and how she has been chosen to be part of a select group of humans who=
 will survive the coming nuclear holocaust. Others mentioned are mountain c=
limber Hilary Smythe-Jaynes, football star Tony Holusky, and typist Eileen =
McGowan. These are people chosen by Enrico Lucetti, a physics prodigy who s=
peaks directly to the reader and describes how man will survive the coming =
disaster by going deep into the sea and he reveals how he's created underwa=
ter men himself to help this endeavor.

The story then cuts to the present day and follows Christopher Smith and Ge=
rda Hain as they take a date on the beach. Gerda wants a quick dip in the s=
ea before they have some champagne but she is abducted by Lucetti's mermen.=
 Smith investigates, swimming through shark-infested waters and he is also =
attacked by the mermen. He goes back to shore and gets his gear to become P=
eacemaker. As Peacemaker he quickly subdues the mermen and finds Lucetti's =
underground city under a great shell at the bottom of the sea. He sees Gerd=
a being taken inside and attacks, but eventually he sees it smarter to let =
himself be taken captive. Inside he confronts Lucetti who describes his pla=
n to Peacemaker and Hain (who by the way immediately recognizes Peacemaker =
as Smith as does Lucetti). Hain will join Lucetti's paradise and Peacemaker=
 will become a merman. Peacemaker attacks and he and Hain look to foil Luce=
tti's plans as Part ends.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers up five fan letters. Most are complimentary of t=
he new book but one laments the loss of Fightin' 5 in their own book. Sugge=
stions are made to have Steve Ditko take over the art. There is some discus=
sion about the fact that Peacemaker should eschew his laser and stick to mo=
re conventional weapons, an idea Giordano throws out to the fans for more c=
omment. One writer wonders how Charlton can have such a quick response time=
 on letters, getting them in the very next issue most of the time, and Gior=
dano explains they wait until literally hours before press time. This is on=
e of the quirks that made Charlton different for sure.

Part 2 of "Our Future World" begins with Peacemaker and Gerda Hain trying t=
o escape Lucetti's dome. They fend off sharks, but Peacemaker is convinced =
that Lucetti will want to trigger the nuclear holocaust he's preparing for =
and indeed Peacemaker finds a battery of nuclear missiles at Lucetti's dome=
 city. Peacemaker and Hain are recaptured and again taken before Lucetti. P=
eacemaker is imprisoned in a hard transparent shell that is resistant to hi=
s laser and specially designed penetrating shells. Confident Lucetti ignore=
s Peacemaker when he fogs up the shell making himself invisible. Lucetti pr=
epares for the launch of his missles while Peacemaker is burning through th=
e floor. He finds Hain below and they find the missile controls which Peace=
maker quickly destroys. The missiles self-destruct and Peacemaker and Gerda=
 escape. A desperate Lucetti though finds himself at the mercy of his own s=
harks.

The Fightin' 5 return in a story titled "Special Prisoner" written by Joe G=
ill and drawn by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The story begins with a U.S. =
official named Lowell Sims being abducted by U.S. forces for safekeeping. I=
t turns out that Granite Gallego, a member of the FF is a double for Sims a=
nd the plan developed by the leader Hank Hennessey is for him to become Sim=
s and get kidnapped by enemy agents who have already kidnapped an important=
 nuclear scientist named Dr.Roy Farney. This is arranged and Granite is qui=
ckly taken prisoner and flown to Farney's location. Meanwhile Frenchy, Tom-=
Tom and Sonya follow and parachute into the location to rescue them both. A=
fter some exhanges the do indeed rescue the pair and escape the enemy base.=
 A sidebar to this action has been Sonya and her attempts to win the respec=
t and trust of her colleagues. Granite especially is tough on her though we=
 find it's because he's romantically interested too.

The book closes with another outstanding Charlton Action-Heroes house ad, t=
his one announcing the debut of Blue Beetle and the coming of the Big "C" o=
n the covers.

This is solid issue of Peacemaker, with enough intrigue and a neat science =
fiction element. This nod to science fiction gives the Peacemaker a broader=
 flavor, making it more than just an espionage story, albeit an espionage s=
tory with super weapons. This was my very first issue of Peacemaker, and fo=
r many years the only one I saw. The cover is superb, very dramatic and ver=
y romantic in the broad sense pitting the Peacemaker and a Merman against e=
ach other with Gerda looking on. This cover is a fave of Fred Hembeck too, =
and you'll see his homage below. And even the Fightin' 5 feature this time =
seemed complete and the storytelling was tighter too. All in all one of the=
 stronger issues of the Action Hero run.

More to come.

Rip Off


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I wonder if Joe Gill had seen the episode "The Amphibians" of Voyage to the=
 Bottom of the Sea (first aired March 1965)?=C2=A0 Dr. Jenkins and Dr. Wins=
low were also convinced the only way for mankind to survive was undersea.
=C2=A0
For the Fred Hembeck piece Rip mentions, see the original report at http://=
www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=3Dgsmb-2010022408263796
Thanks,
Darci




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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #4

=C2=A0=20
The Peacemaker #3 is dated July, 1967. Dick Giordano is listed as editor fo=
r the first time on the lead feature, and Joe Gill gets his first credit as=
 the writer. He is referred to later in the letters page as the creator of =
Peacemaker. Pat Boyette is the illustrator and he did the cover.

"Our Future World" begins by describing Gerda Hain, world beauty and scient=
ist, and how she has been chosen to be part of a select group of humans who=
 will survive the coming nuclear holocaust. Others mentioned are mountain c=
limber Hilary Smythe-Jaynes, football star Tony Holusky, and typist Eileen =
McGowan. These are people chosen by Enrico Lucetti, a physics prodigy who s=
peaks directly to the reader and describes how man will survive the coming =
disaster by going deep into the sea and he reveals how he's created underwa=
ter men himself to help this endeavor.

The story then cuts to the present day and follows Christopher Smith and Ge=
rda Hain as they take a date on the beach. Gerda wants a quick dip in the s=
ea before they have some champagne but she is abducted by Lucetti's mermen.=
 Smith investigates, swimming through shark-infested waters and he is also =
attacked by the mermen. He goes back to shore and gets his gear to become P=
eacemaker. As Peacemaker he quickly subdues the mermen and finds Lucetti's =
underground city under a great shell at the bottom of the sea. He sees Gerd=
a being taken inside and attacks, but eventually he sees it smarter to let =
himself be taken captive. Inside he confronts Lucetti who describes his pla=
n to Peacemaker and Hain (who by the way immediately recognizes Peacemaker =
as Smith as does Lucetti). Hain will join Lucetti's paradise and Peacemaker=
 will become a merman. Peacemaker attacks and he and Hain look to foil Luce=
tti's plans as Part ends.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers up five fan letters. Most are complimentary of t=
he new book but one laments the loss of Fightin' 5 in their own book. Sugge=
stions are made to have Steve Ditko take over the art. There is some discus=
sion about the fact that Peacemaker should eschew his laser and stick to mo=
re conventional weapons, an idea Giordano throws out to the fans for more c=
omment. One writer wonders how Charlton can have such a quick response time=
 on letters, getting them in the very next issue most of the time, and Gior=
dano explains they wait until literally hours before press time. This is on=
e of the quirks that made Charlton different for sure.

Part 2 of "Our Future World" begins with Peacemaker and Gerda Hain trying t=
o escape Lucetti's dome. They fend off sharks, but Peacemaker is convinced =
that Lucetti will want to trigger the nuclear holocaust he's preparing for =
and indeed Peacemaker finds a battery of nuclear missiles at Lucetti's dome=
 city. Peacemaker and Hain are recaptured and again taken before Lucetti. P=
eacemaker is imprisoned in a hard transparent shell that is resistant to hi=
s laser and specially designed penetrating shells. Confident Lucetti ignore=
s Peacemaker when he fogs up the shell making himself invisible. Lucetti pr=
epares for the launch of his missles while Peacemaker is burning through th=
e floor. He finds Hain below and they find the missile controls which Peace=
maker quickly destroys. The missiles self-destruct and Peacemaker and Gerda=
 escape. A desperate Lucetti though finds himself at the mercy of his own s=
harks.

The Fightin' 5 return in a story titled "Special Prisoner" written by Joe G=
ill and drawn by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The story begins with a U.S. =
official named Lowell Sims being abducted by U.S. forces for safekeeping. I=
t turns out that Granite Gallego, a member of the FF is a double for Sims a=
nd the plan developed by the leader Hank Hennessey is for him to become Sim=
s and get kidnapped by enemy agents who have already kidnapped an important=
 nuclear scientist named Dr.Roy Farney. This is arranged and Granite is qui=
ckly taken prisoner and flown to Farney's location. Meanwhile Frenchy, Tom-=
Tom and Sonya follow and parachute into the location to rescue them both. A=
fter some exhanges the duo indeed rescue the pair and escape the enemy base=
. A sidebar to this action has been Sonya and her attempts to win the respe=
ct and trust of her colleagues. Granite especially is tough on her though w=
e find it's because he's romantically interested too.

The book closes with another outstanding Charlton Action-Heroes house ad, t=
his one announcing the debut of Blue Beetle and the coming of the Big "C" o=
n the covers.

This is solid issue of Peacemaker, with enough intrigue and a neat science =
fiction element. This nod to science fiction gives the Peacemaker a broader=
 flavor, making it more than just an espionage story, albeit an espionage s=
tory with super weapons. This was my very first issue of Peacemaker, and fo=
r many years the only one I saw. The cover is superb, very dramatic and ver=
y romantic in the broad sense pitting the Peacemaker and a Merman against e=
ach other with Gerda looking on. This cover is a fave of Fred Hembeck too, =
and you'll see his homage below. And even the Fightin' 5 feature this time =
seemed complete and the storytelling was tighter too. All in all one of the=
 stronger issues of the Action Hero run.

More to come.

Rip Off





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Rip, checked out your Dojo site, pretty neat.
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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #4
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 3:42 AM


=C2=A0=20



The Peacemaker #3 is dated July, 1967. Dick Giordano is listed as editor fo=
r the first time on the lead feature, and Joe Gill gets his first credit as=
 the writer. He is referred to later in the letters page as the creator of =
Peacemaker. Pat Boyette is the illustrator and he did the cover.

"Our Future World" begins by describing Gerda Hain, world beauty and scient=
ist, and how she has been chosen to be part of a select group of humans who=
 will survive the coming nuclear holocaust. Others mentioned are mountain c=
limber Hilary Smythe-Jaynes, football star Tony Holusky, and typist Eileen =
McGowan. These are people chosen by Enrico Lucetti, a physics prodigy who s=
peaks directly to the reader and describes how man will survive the coming =
disaster by going deep into the sea and he reveals how he's created underwa=
ter men himself to help this endeavor.

The story then cuts to the present day and follows Christopher Smith and Ge=
rda Hain as they take a date on the beach. Gerda wants a quick dip in the s=
ea before they have some champagne but she is abducted by Lucetti's mermen.=
 Smith investigates, swimming through shark-infested waters and he is also =
attacked by the mermen. He goes back to shore and gets his gear to become P=
eacemaker. As Peacemaker he quickly subdues the mermen and finds Lucetti's =
underground city under a great shell at the bottom of the sea. He sees Gerd=
a being taken inside and attacks, but eventually he sees it smarter to let =
himself be taken captive. Inside he confronts Lucetti who describes his pla=
n to Peacemaker and Hain (who by the way immediately recognizes Peacemaker =
as Smith as does Lucetti). Hain will join Lucetti's paradise and Peacemaker=
 will become a merman. Peacemaker attacks and he and Hain look to foil Luce=
tti's plans as Part ends.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers up five fan letters. Most are complimentary of t=
he new book but one laments the loss of Fightin' 5 in their own book. Sugge=
stions are made to have Steve Ditko take over the art. There is some discus=
sion about the fact that Peacemaker should eschew his laser and stick to mo=
re conventional weapons, an idea Giordano throws out to the fans for more c=
omment. One writer wonders how Charlton can have such a quick response time=
 on letters, getting them in the very next issue most of the time, and Gior=
dano explains they wait until literally hours before press time. This is on=
e of the quirks that made Charlton different for sure.

Part 2 of "Our Future World" begins with Peacemaker and Gerda Hain trying t=
o escape Lucetti's dome. They fend off sharks, but Peacemaker is convinced =
that Lucetti will want to trigger the nuclear holocaust he's preparing for =
and indeed Peacemaker finds a battery of nuclear missiles at Lucetti's dome=
 city. Peacemaker and Hain are recaptured and again taken before Lucetti. P=
eacemaker is imprisoned in a hard transparent shell that is resistant to hi=
s laser and specially designed penetrating shells. Confident Lucetti ignore=
s Peacemaker when he fogs up the shell making himself invisible. Lucetti pr=
epares for the launch of his missles while Peacemaker is burning through th=
e floor. He finds Hain below and they find the missile controls which Peace=
maker quickly destroys. The missiles self-destruct and Peacemaker and Gerda=
 escape. A desperate Lucetti though finds himself at the mercy of his own s=
harks.

The Fightin' 5 return in a story titled "Special Prisoner" written by Joe G=
ill and drawn by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The story begins with a U.S. =
official named Lowell Sims being abducted by U.S. forces for safekeeping. I=
t turns out that Granite Gallego, a member of the FF is a double for Sims a=
nd the plan developed by the leader Hank Hennessey is for him to become Sim=
s and get kidnapped by enemy agents who have already kidnapped an important=
 nuclear scientist named Dr.Roy Farney. This is arranged and Granite is qui=
ckly taken prisoner and flown to Farney's location. Meanwhile Frenchy, Tom-=
Tom and Sonya follow and parachute into the location to rescue them both. A=
fter some exhanges the do indeed rescue the pair and escape the enemy base.=
 A sidebar to this action has been Sonya and her attempts to win the respec=
t and trust of her colleagues. Granite especially is tough on her though we=
 find it's because he's romantically interested too.

The book closes with another outstanding Charlton Action-Heroes house ad, t=
his one announcing the debut of Blue Beetle and the coming of the Big "C" o=
n the covers.

This is solid issue of Peacemaker, with enough intrigue and a neat science =
fiction element. This nod to science fiction gives the Peacemaker a broader=
 flavor, making it more than just an espionage story, albeit an espionage s=
tory with super weapons. This was my very first issue of Peacemaker, and fo=
r many years the only one I saw. The cover is superb, very dramatic and ver=
y romantic in the broad sense pitting the Peacemaker and a Merman against e=
ach other with Gerda looking on. This cover is a fave of Fred Hembeck too, =
and you'll see his homage below. And even the Fightin' 5 feature this time =
seemed complete and the storytelling was tighter too. All in all one of the=
 stronger issues of the Action Hero run.

More to come.

Rip Off









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How about that!=C2=A0 I used to have the Sorceress of Cyba-3 too (see http:=
//ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/=C2=A0).
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Rip, checked out your Dojo site, pretty neat.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #4
To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 3:42 AM

=C2=A0=20

The Peacemaker #3 is dated July, 1967. Dick Giordano is listed as editor fo=
r the first time on the lead feature, and Joe Gill gets his first credit as=
 the writer. He is referred to later in the letters page as the creator of =
Peacemaker. Pat Boyette is the illustrator and he did the cover.

"Our Future World" begins by describing Gerda Hain, world beauty and scient=
ist, and how she has been chosen to be part of a select group of humans who=
 will survive the coming nuclear holocaust. Others mentioned are mountain c=
limber Hilary Smythe-Jaynes, football star Tony Holusky, and typist Eileen =
McGowan. These are people chosen by Enrico Lucetti, a physics prodigy who s=
peaks directly to the reader and describes how man will survive the coming =
disaster by going deep into the sea and he reveals how he's created underwa=
ter men himself to help this endeavor.

The story then cuts to the present day and follows Christopher Smith and Ge=
rda Hain as they take a date on the beach. Gerda wants a quick dip in the s=
ea before they have some champagne but she is abducted by Lucetti's mermen.=
 Smith investigates, swimming through shark-infested waters and he is also =
attacked by the mermen. He goes back to shore and gets his gear to become P=
eacemaker. As Peacemaker he quickly subdues the mermen and finds Lucetti's =
underground city under a great shell at the bottom of the sea. He sees Gerd=
a being taken inside and attacks, but eventually he sees it smarter to let =
himself be taken captive. Inside he confronts Lucetti who describes his pla=
n to Peacemaker and Hain (who by the way immediately recognizes Peacemaker =
as Smith as does Lucetti). Hain will join Lucetti's paradise and Peacemaker=
 will become a merman. Peacemaker attacks and he and Hain look to foil Luce=
tti's plans as Part ends.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers up five fan letters. Most are complimentary of t=
he new book but one laments the loss of Fightin' 5 in their own book. Sugge=
stions are made to have Steve Ditko take over the art. There is some discus=
sion about the fact that Peacemaker should eschew his laser and stick to mo=
re conventional weapons, an idea Giordano throws out to the fans for more c=
omment. One writer wonders how Charlton can have such a quick response time=
 on letters, getting them in the very next issue most of the time, and Gior=
dano explains they wait until literally hours before press time. This is on=
e of the quirks that made Charlton different for sure.

Part 2 of "Our Future World" begins with Peacemaker and Gerda Hain trying t=
o escape Lucetti's dome. They fend off sharks, but Peacemaker is convinced =
that Lucetti will want to trigger the nuclear holocaust he's preparing for =
and indeed Peacemaker finds a battery of nuclear missiles at Lucetti's dome=
 city. Peacemaker and Hain are recaptured and again taken before Lucetti. P=
eacemaker is imprisoned in a hard transparent shell that is resistant to hi=
s laser and specially designed penetrating shells. Confident Lucetti ignore=
s Peacemaker when he fogs up the shell making himself invisible. Lucetti pr=
epares for the launch of his missles while Peacemaker is burning through th=
e floor. He finds Hain below and they find the missile controls which Peace=
maker quickly destroys. The missiles self-destruct and Peacemaker and Gerda=
 escape. A desperate Lucetti though finds himself at the mercy of his own s=
harks.

The Fightin' 5 return in a story titled "Special Prisoner" written by Joe G=
ill and drawn by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The story begins with a U.S. =
official named Lowell Sims being abducted by U.S. forces for safekeeping. I=
t turns out that Granite Gallego, a member of the FF is a double for Sims a=
nd the plan developed by the leader Hank Hennessey is for him to become Sim=
s and get kidnapped by enemy agents who have already kidnapped an important=
 nuclear scientist named Dr.Roy Farney. This is arranged and Granite is qui=
ckly taken prisoner and flown to Farney's location. Meanwhile Frenchy, Tom-=
Tom and Sonya follow and parachute into the location to rescue them both. A=
fter some exhanges the do indeed rescue the pair and escape the enemy base.=
 A sidebar to this action has been Sonya and her attempts to win the respec=
t and trust of her colleagues. Granite especially is tough on her though we=
 find it's because he's romantically interested too.

The book closes with another outstanding Charlton Action-Heroes house ad, t=
his one announcing the debut of Blue Beetle and the coming of the Big "C" o=
n the covers.

This is solid issue of Peacemaker, with enough intrigue and a neat science =
fiction element. This nod to science fiction gives the Peacemaker a broader=
 flavor, making it more than just an espionage story, albeit an espionage s=
tory with super weapons. This was my very first issue of Peacemaker, and fo=
r many years the only one I saw. The cover is superb, very dramatic and ver=
y romantic in the broad sense pitting the Peacemaker and a Merman against e=
ach other with Gerda looking on. This cover is a fave of Fred Hembeck too, =
and you'll see his homage below. And even the Fightin' 5 feature this time =
seemed complete and the storytelling was tighter too. All in all one of the=
 stronger issues of the Action Hero run.

More to come.

Rip Off

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The Peacemaker #4 is dated September, 1967. The editor is Dick Giordano, th=
e scripter for both features is Joe Gill. The artist on the lead and the al=
so the cover is Pat Boyette.

The first part of the lead Peacemaker story begins with an introduction to =
Nora O'Rourke, an American citizen but born in County Cork Ireland. She sho=
ws up at Christopher Smith's chateau dubbed "The Peace Palace" to apply for=
 the position of secretary for Smith. Apparently others were to come with h=
er but she is alone and explains that a man tried to stop her but she fough=
t back successfully, getting a black eye in the process. While they talk an=
d Smith gives some of his back history a sniper takes aim out the window. S=
mith says he learned science very young and was inspired by his father to p=
ursue more adventurous activities. His big break came when he was asked by =
the military to help develop an experimental jet, the X-17. Just then a bul=
let is fired and Smith retaliates with a curious looking pistol and hits th=
e sniper. O'Rourke is concerned but is told the bullet was non-lethal and t=
he sniper will be dealt with through the authorities.

After dinner Smith is convinced Nora is right for the job and reveals to he=
r his identity as Peacemaker and gives her a tour of his facilities and wea=
pons. He gives her a rundown of his previous adventures, saying his battle =
with Emil Bork (shown in the Fightin' 5 issues) was his first time as Peace=
maker. He also reprises his battles against Bork, The Commodore, and others=
. Nora is impressed, but just then a jet flies over the chateau and release=
s a bomb.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers four fan letters. Three are very enthusiastic ab=
out the new Peacemaker book, though they lament the loss of Fightin' 5. One=
 letter though is very critical and says that Peacemaker is pretty bland co=
mpared to the other Action-Heroes.

Part Two of the Peacemaker story is titled "The Hostage" and begins with th=
e bomb burst and afterwords a ground assault on the chateau led by Colonel =
Uz, a Bulgar arms thief. Peacemaker battles the invaders but is subdued whe=
n a lab explodes and is kidnapped, the force leaving in a jet with him. Nor=
a and Peacemaker's assistant Paul try to figure out what to do. Uz confront=
s Peacemaker (who it is revealed is heavily armed just by wearing his costu=
me though he doesn't appear to have weapons) and reveals he wants Peacemake=
r to repair some of the high-tech weapons he's stolen, but which don't a pr=
esent work. Peacemaker does indeed fix the weapons, sabotaging each and eve=
ry one in ways which will not be immediately detectable. Then Peacemaker is=
 shown that Nora has fallen into the clutches of Uz and so he goes ahead an=
d begins his escape. Uz's men are helpless to stop him as their weapons mal=
function and explode around them. Peacemaker confronts Colonel Uz who flees=
 in a jet which falls apart around him in mid-air. Rescued Nora remarks to =
Peacemaker that her first few hours of working for him have been exciting o=
nes indeed.

The Fightin' 5 story is titled "Card Carrier" and is part one of a multi-pa=
rt tale. It begins in an alley with a grenade assault on a publishing compa=
ny. A policeman shows up and pursues the vandals, shooting and wounding one=
 of them, but not being able to capture them. The scene shifts to Hank Henn=
essey, leader of the FF who is briefing Granite Gallego about a membership =
card belonging to one Rober Heddon found at the scene of the crime and how =
it points to the problem of spies who might be using a liberal political gr=
oup to do espionage work. Despite there persistent doubts about her it is a=
greed that Sonya is best suited to infiltrate the group.

Meanwhile Tom Tom and Frenchy the Fox stake out the publisher's office thin=
king another attack might be imminent. Two men do show up to finish the job=
 but are intercepted and followed by Tom Tom, who hands the pursuit off to =
Frenchy. Thinking they have escaped, the two thugs goe their hideout in the=
 sewer system and Frenchy follows. Granite reports in from the police stati=
on that the card carrier Roger Heddon has been found in the river dead from=
 the gunshot wound received during the crime. Frenchy though is discovered =
following the thugs as the installment ends.

Though this issue purports to be an origin for Peacemaker, we get precious =
little new information. The first chapter of the story almost felt to me li=
ke one of those later chapters in a movie serial, the ones they use to exte=
nd the whole shebang by recounting earlier parts of the story. Nora seems a=
 good addition to the Peacemaker landscape, as clearly Smith couldn't do wh=
at he does without a goodly sized support staff. Seeing those people would =
make the whole Peacemaker thing a wee bit more logical, and we get a glimps=
e of his set-up in this issue.

One thing I noticed preparing this report is that one of the poses used on =
the cover of this issue was adapted very slightly and used on the Action-He=
roes house ad I esteem so highly. Neat.

More to come.=20

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Thanks. I make sure it has a heavy Charlton presence. That's not especially=
 difficult since I spend a lot of time prowling through Charlton materials.=
=20

Here's a link:

http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/

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e:
>
> Rip, checked out your Dojo site, pretty neat.
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
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Rip,
Re:=C2=A0 "Nora seems a good addition to the Peacemaker landscape, as clear=
ly Smith couldn't do what he does without a goodly sized support staff."
I'm sure you didn't mean to slight Paul.=C2=A0 I wonder how many more assis=
tants there were?
Thanks,
Darci




________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 3:01:41 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #5

=C2=A0=20
The Peacemaker #4 is dated September, 1967. The editor is Dick Giordano, th=
e scripter for both features is Joe Gill. The artist on the lead and the al=
so the cover is Pat Boyette.

The first part of the lead Peacemaker story begins with an introduction to =
Nora O'Rourke, an American citizen but born in County Cork Ireland. She sho=
ws up at Christopher Smith's chateau dubbed "The Peace Palace" to apply for=
 the position of secretary for Smith. Apparently others were to come with h=
er but she is alone and explains that a man tried to stop her but she fough=
t back successfully, getting a black eye in the process. While they talk an=
d Smith gives some of his back history a sniper takes aim out the window. S=
mith says he learned science very young and was inspired by his father to p=
ursue more adventurous activities. His big break came when he was asked by =
the military to help develop an experimental jet, the X-17. Just then a bul=
let is fired and Smith retaliates with a curious looking pistol and hits th=
e sniper. O'Rourke is concerned but is told the bullet was non-lethal and t=
he sniper will be dealt with through the authorities.

After dinner Smith is convinced Nora is right for the job and reveals to he=
r his identity as Peacemaker and gives her a tour of his facilities and wea=
pons. He gives her a rundown of his previous adventures, saying his battle =
with Emil Bork (shown in the Fightin' 5 issues) was his first time as Peace=
maker. He also reprises his battles against Bork, The Commodore, and others=
. Nora is impressed, but just then a jet flies over the chateau and release=
s a bomb.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers four fan letters. Three are very enthusiastic ab=
out the new Peacemaker book, though they lament the loss of Fightin' 5. One=
 letter though is very critical and says that Peacemaker is pretty bland co=
mpared to the other Action-Heroes.

Part Two of the Peacemaker story is titled "The Hostage" and begins with th=
e bomb burst and afterwords a ground assault on the chateau led by Colonel =
Uz, a Bulgar arms thief. Peacemaker battles the invaders but is subdued whe=
n a lab explodes and is kidnapped, the force leaving in a jet with him. Nor=
a and Peacemaker's assistant Paul try to figure out what to do. Uz confront=
s Peacemaker (who it is revealed is heavily armed just by wearing his costu=
me though he doesn't appear to have weapons) and reveals he wants Peacemake=
r to repair some of the high-tech weapons he's stolen, but which don't at p=
resent work. Peacemaker does indeed fix the weapons, sabotaging each and ev=
ery one in ways which will not be immediately detectable. Then Peacemaker i=
s shown that Nora has fallen into the clutches of Uz and so he goes ahead a=
nd begins his escape. Uz's men are helpless to stop him as their weapons ma=
lfunction and explode around them. Peacemaker confronts Colonel Uz
 who flees in a jet which falls apart around him in mid-air. Rescued Nora r=
emarks to Peacemaker that her first few hours of working for him have been =
exciting ones indeed.

The Fightin' 5 story is titled "Card Carrier" and is part one of a multi-pa=
rt tale. It begins in an alley with a grenade assault on a publishing compa=
ny. A policeman shows up and pursues the vandals, shooting and wounding one=
 of them, but not being able to capture them. The scene shifts to Hank Henn=
essey, leader of the FF who is briefing Granite Gallego about a membership =
card belonging to one Roger Heddon found at the scene of the crime and how =
it points to the problem of spies who might be using a liberal political gr=
oup to do espionage work. Despite their persistent doubts about her it is a=
greed that Sonya is best suited to infiltrate the group.

Meanwhile Tom Tom and Frenchy the Fox stake out the publisher's office thin=
king another attack might be imminent. Two men do show up to finish the job=
 but are intercepted and followed by Tom Tom, who hands the pursuit off to =
Frenchy. Thinking they have escaped, the two thugs go their hideout in the =
sewer system and Frenchy follows. Granite reports in from the police statio=
n that the card carrier Roger Heddon has been found in the river dead from =
the gunshot wound received during the crime. Frenchy though is discovered f=
ollowing the thugs as the installment ends.

Though this issue purports to be an origin for Peacemaker, we get precious =
little new information. The first chapter of the story almost felt to me li=
ke one of those later chapters in a movie serial, the ones they use to exte=
nd the whole shebang by recounting earlier parts of the story. Nora seems a=
 good addition to the Peacemaker landscape, as clearly Smith couldn't do wh=
at he does without a goodly sized support staff. Seeing those people would =
make the whole Peacemaker thing a wee bit more logical, and we get a glimps=
e of his set-up in this issue.

One thing I noticed preparing this report is that one of the poses used on =
the cover of this issue was adapted very slightly and used on the Action-He=
roes house ad I esteem so highly. Neat.

More to come.=20

Rip Off





=20=20=20=20=20=20

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The Peacemaker #5 is dated November, 1967. The editor is Dick Giordano and =
the writer of both the lead feature and the back up is Joe Gill. The illust=
ration on the lead and on the cover is by Pay Boyette.

Part I of "The Fire World" by Gill and Boyette begins with Christopher Smit=
h explaining his latest invention to his secretary Nora O'Rourke. He's deve=
loped a heat-proof material which can be applied to everyday objects such a=
s clothing making it possible for people to work in extreme heat. He's also=
 redesigned his Peacemaker helmet, ostensibly to make better use of this fi=
re-resistant compound. He is planning to go public with his discovery.

The scene shifts to a circus act featuring a fire-eater named Mr.Blaze who =
it seems catches fire during his act burning his hands. He learns of Smith'=
s invention and makes plans to steal it when it is being delivered to its l=
ocation. He burns down the mail room to cover his theft but Smith is suspic=
ious when he hears the news, as his fabric shouldn't have burned. He introd=
uces another invention then, an Absolute-Zero Generator, a small hand-held =
device.

We find Mr.Blaze now looking to maximize his stolen property when he learns=
 of an island which is suffering volcanic eruptions, causing it to become d=
eserted. He wants to go there and does so. He finds though after disembarki=
ng from the ship that a race of molten lava men live on the island and they=
 destroy the ship. Blaze though is able to communicate with them and using =
Smith's compound is able to thrive in their world. He takes control of them=
 and plots his next step. That comes when a plane comes by and the lava men=
 attack it. Then Blaze develops a small device that will channel the energy=
 of the lava men giving them and himself the ability to propel themselves t=
hrough the air like jets. The head to a nuclear test site to begin their ca=
mpaign. At that site is Peacemaker to observe the test.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers up six fan letters this time. Some praise the Pe=
acemaker book, but many want the Fightin' 5 to return to their own title. A=
gain Giordano explains the reality of publishing and that any book not sell=
ing one hundred thousand copies or more cannot survive. It is revealed that=
 the infamous lettering machine Charlton uses is used to make the letters p=
age and that is because the typesetting machines broke down just before pri=
nting was to begin. But it allows more letters, so they might stick with it=
. The same device was used on the last Thunderbolt letters page.

Part Two of the Peacemaker story has Peacemaker in the air confronting Blaz=
e and his lava men as they fly to interfere with the nuclear test. After a =
brief but ferocious battle Peacemaker is captured and awakens on the bridge=
 of the ship and watches as the lava men destroy fighter jets. The ship is =
overrun by Blaze and his overheated henchmen and they take the ship back to=
 his volcanic lair. Once there Blaze has Peacemaker construct a jet that wi=
ll make use of the energy of the lava and Peacemaker does so. He also recog=
nizes his heat-proof formula as it's being used by Blaze. After Blaze revea=
ls he will use the jet to take over the world beginning in Washington D.C.,=
 he has a lava man stop Peacemaker and send him toppling into the volcano.

Peacemaker is able to survive by using his AZG (Absolute-Zero Gun) device t=
o freeze a pocket which generates an explosion when it melts which propels =
him out of the volcano. He then uses his rocket pack to return to the "Peac=
e Palace" in Geneva. There he gets another special jet plane and goes to in=
tercept Blaze and his forces, armed with the knowledge that Blaze's formula=
 which he stole has a half-life which is decaying rapidly. Blaze suddenly f=
inds he is blistering and ejects from his special plane which crashes relat=
ively harmlessly into the Potomac. Blaze disappears but the lava men scurry=
 back to their volcanic home and Peacemaker seals them in with his AZG devi=
ce. The story ends with speculation if Blaze will return.

The Fightin' 5 return in the conclusion of "The Card Carrier" by Gill and d=
rawn by Bill Montes and Ernie Bache. The action begins immediately as Tom T=
om reports Hank Hennessey that Frenchy the Fox has followed the vandals to =
their hideout. He doesn't know that Frenchy is at that moment captured by t=
he thugs but he is able to escape and make contact momentarily before being=
 knocked out. Alerted Hank and Tom Tom get reports from Granite and Sonya. =
Granite Gallego reports that the man they thought was shot by the policeman=
 was in fact dead before the attack and so the whole thing appears to be a =
frame with the card being a red herring. Sonya supports this report from in=
side the movement and the Fightin' 5 reassemble. Tom Tom has gone to assist=
 Frenchy and comes under gunfire, and the rest appear to assist. They take =
down the attackers, save Frenchy and realize the whole communist plot angle=
 was a ruse by the publisher of the right-wing paper to kindle resentment a=
gainst the Soviets. The story ends as the assembled FF fly over a safe Wash=
ington D.C.

The comic book ends with the excellent "Action-Heroes? We Got'Em!!!" house =
ad.

In this issue Peacemaker seems more like a regular run-of-the-mill superher=
o than in in any other issue. Mr.Blaze, a carny turned world-beater is a cl=
iche and undermines the international flavor of the stories told to this po=
int. The story relies on an awful lot of coincidence too, more than is ofte=
n the case in stories like this. I did like the new Peacemaker helmet, and =
it points to the notion that Peacemaker would indeed have altered his equip=
ment for different missions. That would've been a neat thing for future iss=
ue. But alas this is the final published installment of Peacemaker.

But it's not the last report. Check back in next time for one more installm=
ent.

Rip Off


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Dean,
=C2=A0
Will you be covering the Peacemaker stories in Fightin' Five as well, where=
in the character first appeared?
=C2=A0
Best,
=C2=A0
Phil

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #5
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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=C2=A0=20



The Peacemaker #4 is dated September, 1967. The editor is Dick Giordano, th=
e scripter for both features is Joe Gill. The artist on the lead and the al=
so the cover is Pat Boyette.

The first part of the lead Peacemaker story begins with an introduction to =
Nora O'Rourke, an American citizen but born in County Cork Ireland. She sho=
ws up at Christopher Smith's chateau dubbed "The Peace Palace" to apply for=
 the position of secretary for Smith. Apparently others were to come with h=
er but she is alone and explains that a man tried to stop her but she fough=
t back successfully, getting a black eye in the process. While they talk an=
d Smith gives some of his back history a sniper takes aim out the window. S=
mith says he learned science very young and was inspired by his father to p=
ursue more adventurous activities. His big break came when he was asked by =
the military to help develop an experimental jet, the X-17. Just then a bul=
let is fired and Smith retaliates with a curious looking pistol and hits th=
e sniper. O'Rourke is concerned but is told the bullet was non-lethal and t=
he sniper will be dealt with through the authorities.

After dinner Smith is convinced Nora is right for the job and reveals to he=
r his identity as Peacemaker and gives her a tour of his facilities and wea=
pons. He gives her a rundown of his previous adventures, saying his battle =
with Emil Bork (shown in the Fightin' 5 issues) was his first time as Peace=
maker. He also reprises his battles against Bork, The Commodore, and others=
. Nora is impressed, but just then a jet flies over the chateau and release=
s a bomb.

"Peacemaker Patter" offers four fan letters. Three are very enthusiastic ab=
out the new Peacemaker book, though they lament the loss of Fightin' 5. One=
 letter though is very critical and says that Peacemaker is pretty bland co=
mpared to the other Action-Heroes.

Part Two of the Peacemaker story is titled "The Hostage" and begins with th=
e bomb burst and afterwords a ground assault on the chateau led by Colonel =
Uz, a Bulgar arms thief. Peacemaker battles the invaders but is subdued whe=
n a lab explodes and is kidnapped, the force leaving in a jet with him. Nor=
a and Peacemaker's assistant Paul try to figure out what to do. Uz confront=
s Peacemaker (who it is revealed is heavily armed just by wearing his costu=
me though he doesn't appear to have weapons) and reveals he wants Peacemake=
r to repair some of the high-tech weapons he's stolen, but which don't a pr=
esent work. Peacemaker does indeed fix the weapons, sabotaging each and eve=
ry one in ways which will not be immediately detectable. Then Peacemaker is=
 shown that Nora has fallen into the clutches of Uz and so he goes ahead an=
d begins his escape. Uz's men are helpless to stop him as their weapons mal=
function and explode around them. Peacemaker confronts Colonel Uz
 who flees in a jet which falls apart around him in mid-air. Rescued Nora r=
emarks to Peacemaker that her first few hours of working for him have been =
exciting ones indeed.

The Fightin' 5 story is titled "Card Carrier" and is part one of a multi-pa=
rt tale. It begins in an alley with a grenade assault on a publishing compa=
ny. A policeman shows up and pursues the vandals, shooting and wounding one=
 of them, but not being able to capture them. The scene shifts to Hank Henn=
essey, leader of the FF who is briefing Granite Gallego about a membership =
card belonging to one Rober Heddon found at the scene of the crime and how =
it points to the problem of spies who might be using a liberal political gr=
oup to do espionage work. Despite there persistent doubts about her it is a=
greed that Sonya is best suited to infiltrate the group.

Meanwhile Tom Tom and Frenchy the Fox stake out the publisher's office thin=
king another attack might be imminent. Two men do show up to finish the job=
 but are intercepted and followed by Tom Tom, who hands the pursuit off to =
Frenchy. Thinking they have escaped, the two thugs goe their hideout in the=
 sewer system and Frenchy follows. Granite reports in from the police stati=
on that the card carrier Roger Heddon has been found in the river dead from=
 the gunshot wound received during the crime. Frenchy though is discovered =
following the thugs as the installment ends.

Though this issue purports to be an origin for Peacemaker, we get precious =
little new information. The first chapter of the story almost felt to me li=
ke one of those later chapters in a movie serial, the ones they use to exte=
nd the whole shebang by recounting earlier parts of the story. Nora seems a=
 good addition to the Peacemaker landscape, as clearly Smith couldn't do wh=
at he does without a goodly sized support staff. Seeing those people would =
make the whole Peacemaker thing a wee bit more logical, and we get a glimps=
e of his set-up in this issue.

One thing I noticed preparing this report is that one of the poses used on =
the cover of this issue was adapted very slightly and used on the Action-He=
roes house ad I esteem so highly. Neat.

More to come.=20

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Ask and you shall receive.=20

I did those issues in Report #1, but I regret not giving it a #0 number as =
it's been confusing since.=20

Here's a link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/message/3612

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Dean,
> =C2=A0
> Will you be covering the Peacemaker stories in Fightin' Five as well, whe=
rein the character first appeared?
> =C2=A0
> Best,
> =C2=A0
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Thu, 3/18/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #5
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 6:01 AM
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The Peacemaker #4 is dated September, 1967. The editor is Dick Giordano, =
the scripter for both features is Joe Gill. The artist on the lead and the =
also the cover is Pat Boyette.
>=20
> The first part of the lead Peacemaker story begins with an introduction t=
o Nora O'Rourke, an American citizen but born in County Cork Ireland. She s=
hows up at Christopher Smith's chateau dubbed "The Peace Palace" to apply f=
or the position of secretary for Smith. Apparently others were to come with=
 her but she is alone and explains that a man tried to stop her but she fou=
ght back successfully, getting a black eye in the process. While they talk =
and Smith gives some of his back history a sniper takes aim out the window.=
 Smith says he learned science very young and was inspired by his father to=
 pursue more adventurous activities. His big break came when he was asked b=
y the military to help develop an experimental jet, the X-17. Just then a b=
ullet is fired and Smith retaliates with a curious looking pistol and hits =
the sniper. O'Rourke is concerned but is told the bullet was non-lethal and=
 the sniper will be dealt with through the authorities.
>=20
> After dinner Smith is convinced Nora is right for the job and reveals to =
her his identity as Peacemaker and gives her a tour of his facilities and w=
eapons. He gives her a rundown of his previous adventures, saying his battl=
e with Emil Bork (shown in the Fightin' 5 issues) was his first time as Pea=
cemaker. He also reprises his battles against Bork, The Commodore, and othe=
rs. Nora is impressed, but just then a jet flies over the chateau and relea=
ses a bomb.
>=20
> "Peacemaker Patter" offers four fan letters. Three are very enthusiastic =
about the new Peacemaker book, though they lament the loss of Fightin' 5. O=
ne letter though is very critical and says that Peacemaker is pretty bland =
compared to the other Action-Heroes.
>=20
> Part Two of the Peacemaker story is titled "The Hostage" and begins with =
the bomb burst and afterwords a ground assault on the chateau led by Colone=
l Uz, a Bulgar arms thief. Peacemaker battles the invaders but is subdued w=
hen a lab explodes and is kidnapped, the force leaving in a jet with him. N=
ora and Peacemaker's assistant Paul try to figure out what to do. Uz confro=
nts Peacemaker (who it is revealed is heavily armed just by wearing his cos=
tume though he doesn't appear to have weapons) and reveals he wants Peacema=
ker to repair some of the high-tech weapons he's stolen, but which don't a =
present work. Peacemaker does indeed fix the weapons, sabotaging each and e=
very one in ways which will not be immediately detectable. Then Peacemaker =
is shown that Nora has fallen into the clutches of Uz and so he goes ahead =
and begins his escape. Uz's men are helpless to stop him as their weapons m=
alfunction and explode around them. Peacemaker confronts Colonel Uz
>  who flees in a jet which falls apart around him in mid-air. Rescued Nora=
 remarks to Peacemaker that her first few hours of working for him have bee=
n exciting ones indeed.
>=20
> The Fightin' 5 story is titled "Card Carrier" and is part one of a multi-=
part tale. It begins in an alley with a grenade assault on a publishing com=
pany. A policeman shows up and pursues the vandals, shooting and wounding o=
ne of them, but not being able to capture them. The scene shifts to Hank He=
nnessey, leader of the FF who is briefing Granite Gallego about a membershi=
p card belonging to one Rober Heddon found at the scene of the crime and ho=
w it points to the problem of spies who might be using a liberal political =
group to do espionage work. Despite there persistent doubts about her it is=
 agreed that Sonya is best suited to infiltrate the group.
>=20
> Meanwhile Tom Tom and Frenchy the Fox stake out the publisher's office th=
inking another attack might be imminent. Two men do show up to finish the j=
ob but are intercepted and followed by Tom Tom, who hands the pursuit off t=
o Frenchy. Thinking they have escaped, the two thugs goe their hideout in t=
he sewer system and Frenchy follows. Granite reports in from the police sta=
tion that the card carrier Roger Heddon has been found in the river dead fr=
om the gunshot wound received during the crime. Frenchy though is discovere=
d following the thugs as the installment ends.
>=20
> Though this issue purports to be an origin for Peacemaker, we get preciou=
s little new information. The first chapter of the story almost felt to me =
like one of those later chapters in a movie serial, the ones they use to ex=
tend the whole shebang by recounting earlier parts of the story. Nora seems=
 a good addition to the Peacemaker landscape, as clearly Smith couldn't do =
what he does without a goodly sized support staff. Seeing those people woul=
d make the whole Peacemaker thing a wee bit more logical, and we get a glim=
pse of his set-up in this issue.
>=20
> One thing I noticed preparing this report is that one of the poses used o=
n the cover of this issue was adapted very slightly and used on the Action-=
Heroes house ad I esteem so highly. Neat.
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
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The Peacemaker #6 was never published. The Action-Hero line folded, its arc=
hitect Dick Giordano move on over to DC, and Charlton returned to its focus=
 on genre comics like ghosts, romance, and war.

But the Peacemaker story for issue #6 was written by Joe Gill and fully ill=
ustrated by Pat Boyette with Dick Giordano credited as editor. And those co=
mpleted pages have been floating around the internet for several years. I r=
ecently printed them off, and just read them. Here's my report.

Part I titled "The Golden Pharaoh" begins right in the middle of the action=
 as some high-tech thieves dressed like ancient Egyptian warriors are robbi=
ng a Soviet atomic laboratory. Their leader is a man named Chufru who claim=
s to be a reincarnated Egyptian pharaoh. Peacemaker shows up and fends off =
the warriors inflicting heavy casualties. Chufru gets a report and indicate=
s he expected Peacemaker to meddle but not so soon. Peacemaker recovers fro=
m the battle and discovers from the Soviet officer commanding the location =
that the thieves did not take any nuclear material, merely gold.

At the "Peace Palace" Christopher Smith discusses the situation with his se=
cretary Nora O'Rourke and we learn that many other locations have had their=
 gold looted and the world political situation is teetering as the financia=
l structure is on the verge of collapse. Meanwhile Chufru reviews the proje=
ct that has caused all the world's gold to be looted, a gigantic pyramid co=
vered in gold. Returning to Smith and O'Rourke we learn about a an ancient =
Egyptian pharoah named "Chufru" who tried to get all the world's gold. Smit=
h mentions a metallugrist also named Chufru and wonders if there is a conne=
ction since the thieves appeared to be Egyptian. Smith plans to use his cus=
tom jet to do survey the African continent and see if he can learn anything=
. After he leaves, two of Chufru's men kidnap Nora and set a bomb to destro=
y the "Peace Palace".

In Part II titled "The Golden Pyramid" Peacemaker discovers a great concent=
ration of metal and goes to those coordinates. Chufru becomes aware of Peac=
emaker's jet and orders vast mirrors concentrated on the jet's location foc=
using the sun's rays into a deadly beam. Peacemaker deflects some of the in=
tense and destructive heat back at the attackers by using tin foil normally=
 intended to elude radar. But his jet is disabled. He is then able to land =
his jet minus power safely on the desert. Chufru's men quickly appear and c=
apture Peacemaker.

In Part III titled "The Golden Goal" begins with Chufru detailing his plans=
 for Peacemaker. They are inside the immense pyramid which is made not comp=
letely of gold, but granite with a gold veneer. Gold it seems was used beca=
use its radiation blocking properties and Chufru is building beneath the py=
ramid a giant bunker in which he and his forces will be safe after they tri=
gger an atomic war using their own missiles to trick the all ready weakened=
 nations into retaliating against one another. After the war Chufru will le=
ad his forces to reestablish the culture of the Old Kingdom of Egypt across=
 the whole of the Earth. Peacemaker is unimpressed and attacks Chufru but h=
as to flee when a guard begins firing. Peacemaker starts great dark fires i=
nside Chufru's bunker which overwhelm the air filtration systems turning th=
e bunkers into defacto tombs for those who stay inside. Peacemaker is able =
to escape and appears at the location where Nora is being held just in time=
 to save her from Chufru who has appeared and intends to kill her to avenge=
 himself. But Peacemaker's help is not required as Nora knocks the would-be=
 pharaoh out with a couple of haymakers. Later Christopher Smith and Nora s=
tand in the ruins of the destroyed "Peace Palace" and vow to rebuild.

If you want to read this story in actual comic book form, it's available ri=
ght here at this group in the Files section. Enjoy!

And that wraps up the Peacemaker saga as it might have been at Charlton Com=
ics. That we have this story in any form is a real treat. The artwork by Bo=
yette looks especially crisp and you can really detect where the presses at=
 Charlton somewhat muddied his work.

These reports have been a real joy to put together. They make me really rea=
d the stories closely with a real attention to detail. I might get around t=
o new ones eventually, but for right now that's all folks.

Rip Off


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- On=A0Sun, 3/21/10, Rip Jagger=A0<ripjagger@yahoo.com>=A0wrote:

The Peacemaker #6 was never published. The Action-Hero line folded, its arc=
hitect Dick Giordano move on over to DC, and Charlton returned to its focus=
 on genre comics like ghosts, romance, and war.

But the Peacemaker story for issue #6 was written by Joe Gill and fully ill=
ustrated by Pat Boyette with Dick Giordano credited as editor. And those co=
mpleted pages have been floating around the internet for several years. I r=
ecently printed them off, and just read them. Here's my report.
SNIP
Didn't the Peacemaker also have a one or two panel appearance in an issue o=
f Charlton Premiere?
Jim Anthony Super-Detective Vol. 1Three wild illustrated prose adventures.
Now on sale at Amazon.comSample chapter here.=A0


=20=20=20=20=20=20

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You are correct.=20

He and Blue Beetle showed up in Charlton Premiere #3 alongside three other =
new heroes (Superguy, Captain USA, and Green Spider)  to battle Sinistro Bo=
y Fiend. I forgot about that one. I've got Charlton Premiere on the list fo=
r an upcoming report,so I'll touch on it in more detail there perhaps.=20

Thanks for the reminder.=20


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> - On=EF=BF=BDSun, 3/21/10, Rip Jagger=EF=BF=BD<ripjagger@...>=EF=BF=BDwro=
te:
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> The Peacemaker #6 was never published. The Action-Hero line folded, its a=
rchitect Dick Giordano move on over to DC, and Charlton returned to its foc=
us on genre comics like ghosts, romance, and war.
>=20
> But the Peacemaker story for issue #6 was written by Joe Gill and fully i=
llustrated by Pat Boyette with Dick Giordano credited as editor. And those =
completed pages have been floating around the internet for several years. I=
 recently printed them off, and just read them. Here's my report.
> SNIP
> Didn't the Peacemaker also have a one or two panel appearance in an issue=
 of Charlton Premiere?
> Jim Anthony Super-Detective Vol. 1Three wild illustrated prose adventures=
.
> Now on sale at Amazon.comSample chapter here.=EF=BF=BD
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Rip,
Thanks for the synopsis, and for informing us the pages were posted here.=
=C2=A0 As far as you know, there's no Fightin' Five backup feature to go wi=
th it?
Darci




________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 10:40:11 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #7

=C2=A0=20
The Peacemaker #6 was never published. The Action-Hero line folded, its arc=
hitect Dick Giordano moved on over to DC, and Charlton returned to its focu=
s on genre comics like ghosts, romance, and war.

But the Peacemaker story for issue #6 was written by Joe Gill and fully ill=
ustrated by Pat Boyette with Dick Giordano credited as editor. And those co=
mpleted pages have been floating around the internet for several years. I r=
ecently printed them off, and just read them. Here's my report.

Part I titled "The Golden Pharaoh" begins right in the middle of the action=
 as some high-tech thieves dressed like ancient Egyptian warriors are robbi=
ng a Soviet atomic laboratory. Their leader is a man named Chufru who claim=
s to be a reincarnated Egyptian pharaoh. Peacemaker shows up and fends off =
the warriors inflicting heavy casualties. Chufru gets a report and indicate=
s he expected Peacemaker to meddle but not so soon. Peacemaker recovers fro=
m the battle and discovers from the Soviet officer commanding the location =
that the thieves did not take any nuclear material, merely gold.

At the "Peace Palace" Christopher Smith discusses the situation with his se=
cretary Nora O'Rourke and we learn that many other locations have had their=
 gold looted and the world political situation is teetering as the financia=
l structure is on the verge of collapse. Meanwhile Chufru reviews the proje=
ct that has caused all the world's gold to be looted, a gigantic pyramid co=
vered in gold. Returning to Smith and O'Rourke we learn about a an ancient =
Egyptian pharoah named "Chufru" who tried to get all the world's gold. Smit=
h mentions a metallurgist also named Chufru and wonders if there is a conne=
ction since the thieves appeared to be Egyptian. Smith plans to use his cus=
tom jet to survey the African continent and see if he can learn anything. A=
fter he leaves, two of Chufru's men kidnap Nora and set a bomb to destroy t=
he "Peace Palace".

In Part II titled "The Golden Pyramid" Peacemaker discovers a great concent=
ration of metal and goes to those coordinates. Chufru becomes aware of Peac=
emaker's jet and orders vast mirrors concentrated on the jet's location foc=
using the sun's rays into a deadly beam. Peacemaker deflects some of the in=
tense and destructive heat back at the attackers by using tin foil normally=
 intended to elude radar. But his jet is disabled. He is then able to land =
his jet minus power safely on the desert. Chufru's men quickly appear and c=
apture Peacemaker.

In Part III titled "The Golden Goal" begins with Chufru detailing his plans=
 for Peacemaker. They are inside the immense pyramid which is made not comp=
letely of gold, but granite with a gold veneer. Gold it seems was used beca=
use of its radiation blocking properties and Chufru is building beneath the=
 pyramid a giant bunker in which he and his forces will be safe after they =
trigger an atomic war using their own missiles to trick the already weakene=
d nations into retaliating against one another. After the war Chufru will l=
ead his forces to reestablish the culture of the Old Kingdom of Egypt acros=
s the whole of the Earth. Peacemaker is unimpressed and attacks Chufru but =
has to flee when a guard begins firing. Peacemaker starts great dark fires =
inside Chufru's bunker which overwhelm the air filtration systems turning t=
he bunkers into defacto tombs for those who stay inside. Peacemaker is able=
 to escape and appears at the location where Nora is being held just
 in time to save her from Chufru who has appeared and intends to kill her t=
o avenge himself. But Peacemaker's help is not required as Nora knocks the =
would-be pharaoh out with a couple of haymakers. Later Christopher Smith an=
d Nora stand in the ruins of the destroyed "Peace Palace" and vow to rebuil=
d.

If you want to read this story in actual comic book form, it's available ri=
ght here at this group in the Files section. Enjoy!

And that wraps up the Peacemaker saga as it might have been at Charlton Com=
ics. That we have this story in any form is a real treat. The artwork by Bo=
yette looks especially crisp and you can really detect where the presses at=
 Charlton somewhat muddied his work.

These reports have been a real joy to put together. They make me really rea=
d the stories closely with a real attention to detail. I might get around t=
o new ones eventually, but for right now that's all folks.

Rip Off





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None that I've ever heard of.=20

And you're very welcome.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
>
> Rip,
> Thanks for the synopsis, and for informing us the pages were posted here.=
=C2=A0 As far as you know, there's no Fightin' Five backup feature to go wi=
th it?
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 10:40:11 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Peacemaker Reports #7
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> The Peacemaker #6 was never published. The Action-Hero line folded, its a=
rchitect Dick Giordano moved on over to DC, and Charlton returned to its fo=
cus on genre comics like ghosts, romance, and war.
>=20
> But the Peacemaker story for issue #6 was written by Joe Gill and fully i=
llustrated by Pat Boyette with Dick Giordano credited as editor. And those =
completed pages have been floating around the internet for several years. I=
 recently printed them off, and just read them. Here's my report.
>=20
> Part I titled "The Golden Pharaoh" begins right in the middle of the acti=
on as some high-tech thieves dressed like ancient Egyptian warriors are rob=
bing a Soviet atomic laboratory. Their leader is a man named Chufru who cla=
ims to be a reincarnated Egyptian pharaoh. Peacemaker shows up and fends of=
f the warriors inflicting heavy casualties. Chufru gets a report and indica=
tes he expected Peacemaker to meddle but not so soon. Peacemaker recovers f=
rom the battle and discovers from the Soviet officer commanding the locatio=
n that the thieves did not take any nuclear material, merely gold.
>=20
> At the "Peace Palace" Christopher Smith discusses the situation with his =
secretary Nora O'Rourke and we learn that many other locations have had the=
ir gold looted and the world political situation is teetering as the financ=
ial structure is on the verge of collapse. Meanwhile Chufru reviews the pro=
ject that has caused all the world's gold to be looted, a gigantic pyramid =
covered in gold. Returning to Smith and O'Rourke we learn about a an ancien=
t Egyptian pharoah named "Chufru" who tried to get all the world's gold. Sm=
ith mentions a metallurgist also named Chufru and wonders if there is a con=
nection since the thieves appeared to be Egyptian. Smith plans to use his c=
ustom jet to survey the African continent and see if he can learn anything.=
 After he leaves, two of Chufru's men kidnap Nora and set a bomb to destroy=
 the "Peace Palace".
>=20
> In Part II titled "The Golden Pyramid" Peacemaker discovers a great conce=
ntration of metal and goes to those coordinates. Chufru becomes aware of Pe=
acemaker's jet and orders vast mirrors concentrated on the jet's location f=
ocusing the sun's rays into a deadly beam. Peacemaker deflects some of the =
intense and destructive heat back at the attackers by using tin foil normal=
ly intended to elude radar. But his jet is disabled. He is then able to lan=
d his jet minus power safely on the desert. Chufru's men quickly appear and=
 capture Peacemaker.
>=20
> In Part III titled "The Golden Goal" begins with Chufru detailing his pla=
ns for Peacemaker. They are inside the immense pyramid which is made not co=
mpletely of gold, but granite with a gold veneer. Gold it seems was used be=
cause of its radiation blocking properties and Chufru is building beneath t=
he pyramid a giant bunker in which he and his forces will be safe after the=
y trigger an atomic war using their own missiles to trick the already weake=
ned nations into retaliating against one another. After the war Chufru will=
 lead his forces to reestablish the culture of the Old Kingdom of Egypt acr=
oss the whole of the Earth. Peacemaker is unimpressed and attacks Chufru bu=
t has to flee when a guard begins firing. Peacemaker starts great dark fire=
s inside Chufru's bunker which overwhelm the air filtration systems turning=
 the bunkers into defacto tombs for those who stay inside. Peacemaker is ab=
le to escape and appears at the location where Nora is being held just
>  in time to save her from Chufru who has appeared and intends to kill her=
 to avenge himself. But Peacemaker's help is not required as Nora knocks th=
e would-be pharaoh out with a couple of haymakers. Later Christopher Smith =
and Nora stand in the ruins of the destroyed "Peace Palace" and vow to rebu=
ild.
>=20
> If you want to read this story in actual comic book form, it's available =
right here at this group in the Files section. Enjoy!
>=20
> And that wraps up the Peacemaker saga as it might have been at Charlton C=
omics. That we have this story in any form is a real treat. The artwork by =
Boyette looks especially crisp and you can really detect where the presses =
at Charlton somewhat muddied his work.
>=20
> These reports have been a real joy to put together. They make me really r=
ead the stories closely with a real attention to detail. I might get around=
 to new ones eventually, but for right now that's all folks.
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
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>=20
>=20
>=20
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>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Pleased to hear that Charlton Premiere may feature in a series of reports s=
oon! Always one of my favourite Charlton titles and one that should have ru=
n and run...

By the way, whatever happened to the Tyro Team book length story that was d=
ue to be published there? Is it still in existence?
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- Laurence


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Tried to post this one recently but I don't think it arrived! I've enjoyed =
the T-Bolt reports lots recently. I just wondered if a T-Bolt 61 (with part=
 two of that Prankster tale) was prepared for publishing? I assume it was a=
s further stories for Captain Atom 90 (although no Nightshade back up has s=
urfaced to my knowledge) and BB 5 and 6 were similarly ready to go. I presu=
me there would also have been a Judomaster 99 (with Sarge Steel back-up) pr=
oduced? Be pleased if anyone can answer these questions of mine! Keep up th=
e good work with the reports, Rip. Tey really take me back to the '60s agai=
n!



- Laurence



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Subject: Dick Giordano RIP
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Word is circulating across the net that Charlton editor and mainstay artist=
 for decades Dick Giordano has passed away.=20

Here's a link to some of the first news of it I found:

http://io9.com/5503533/dc-comics-superstar-dick-giordano-is-dead-at-77/gall=
ery/

I'm sure there will be much more to say about this fantastic man and great =
artist. I have plenty.

Rip Off


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I meet Dick and his lady wife a couple of decades back at a UK comics con a=
nd found him to be a true gentleman.

When I showed him a 'Sarge Steel' issue that I had picked up that day he wa=
s just like a big kid reading though it and telling me how much he loved th=
e character.

A truely GREAT man and a great loss to us all.

-Nigel







--- On Sun, 28/3/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Dick Giordano RIP
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 28 March, 2010, 9:04
> Word is circulating across the net
> that Charlton editor and mainstay artist for decades Dick
> Giordano has passed away.=20
>=20
> Here's a link to some of the first news of it I found:
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This is truly awful news. I have loved his work and what he did at Charlton=
 ever since the late '60s plus all the innovations he later brought to D.C.=
 As well as a great editor (one of the very best, up there with the select =
few) he was a great artist and possibly the best inker to Neil Adams' penci=
ls. There is so much more to say about him and I hope there are suitable tr=
ibutes elsewhere. For now, all I can say is R.I.P. Dick.

- Laurence



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In addition to being a great artist and one of the nicest guy's in 
comics, Dick Giordano was also an thoughtful, knowledgeable guy. In 
2001, Dick drew a new story for my Last Kiss comic book series and I 
used the occasion to interview him. The interview was primarily about 
romance comics, but it ranged over a number of topics including his days 
at Charlton Comics.

Dick's death prompted me to dust off that interview and make it 
available on the web: http://bit.ly/9YrNRZ

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.LastKissInc.com

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Thanks, John.=C2=A0 Giordano helped give Charlton an identity, and his art =
on Sarge Steel and other strips was impeccable.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] 2001 Interview with Dick Giordano
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 1:52 PM


=C2=A0=20



In addition to being a great artist and one of the nicest guy's in=20
comics, Dick Giordano was also an thoughtful, knowledgeable guy. In=20
2001, Dick drew a new story for my Last Kiss comic book series and I=20
used the occasion to interview him. The interview was primarily about=20
romance comics, but it ranged over a number of topics including his days=20
at Charlton Comics.

Dick's death prompted me to dust off that interview and make it=20
available on the web: http://bit.ly/ 9YrNRZ

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.LastKissInc. com








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Subject: Oops! Correct link to Giordano interview
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Sorry. The link I gave to the Giordano interview had one character 
wrong. Here's the correct link:

http://bit.ly/9YrNRZ

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.LastKissInc.com
"Life with Lip!"

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Well, I got to the interview just fine with the first link you gave, John.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com> wrote:


From: John Lustig <john@lastkisscomics.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Oops! Correct link to Giordano interview
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 2:29 PM


=C2=A0=20



Sorry. The link I gave to the Giordano interview had one character=20
wrong. Here's the correct link:

http://bit.ly/ 9YrNRZ

Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.LastKissInc. com
"Life with Lip!"








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John,
Thanks for posting both parts 1 and 2.  It's too bad no one at DC was enlig=
htened enough to let Dick produce those Sarge Steel stories he wanted.  His=
 comment "Somehow, I've never managed to get the work I've wanted to from t=
hem." about Vertigo evokes a lot of missed opportunities.
Darci

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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Oops! Correct link to Giordano interview
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Very sad! I met him once at a comic show when he was trying to start an ind=
ie press with a former Marvel Comics artist. I've forgotten who his partner=
 was, but it didn't fly, unfortunately. He was terribly nice and very frien=
dly.



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Thanks for the interview link John. I do not have time to read it at the moment but sure look forward to it later


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Enjoyed the interview. I picked up the 3 remaining issues of Sarge Steel by=
 Dick that I needed at a show on Saturday and mentioned to the seller that =
if I were to get a recreation/commission by Giordano it would be based on o=
ne of those covers as I thought it was great work and the women really sexy=
. I had only met him twice but he was a great buy to talk with.

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> http://bit.ly/9YrNRZ
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> Best Wishes,
> John Lustig
> www.LastKissInc.com
> "Life with Lip!"
>



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Greg,
What a coincidence!=C2=A0 I had missed the news on March 18th that he had c=
hecked into Florida Hospital Oceanside, so Saturday's news was a complete s=
urprise to me.=C2=A0 Let's see, out of http://www.comics.org/series/1725/co=
vers/?style=3Ddefault=C2=A0which ones were you contemplating?=C2=A0 Issues =
3, 4, and 5?
Thanks,
Darci




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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Oops! Correct link to Giordano interview

=C2=A0=20
Enjoyed the interview. I picked up the 3 remaining issues of Sarge Steel by=
 Dick that I needed at a show on Saturday and mentioned to the seller that =
if I were to get a recreation/commission by Giordano it would be based on o=
ne of those covers as I thought it was great work and the women really sexy=
. I had only met him twice but he was a great guy to talk with.

--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, John Lustig <john@...> wrote:
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> Sorry. The link I gave to the Giordano interview had one character=20
> wrong. Here's the correct link:
>=20
> http://bit.ly/9YrNRZ
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> Best Wishes,
> John Lustig
> www.LastKissInc. com
> "Life with Lip!"
>





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ive met mr Giordano many times in the last couple of years or so he was a m=
ainstay at the tampa comic con one of my all time fav meets at a comic con =
he was one of my heroes=20
I had the sad duty of telling a very dear friend of mine who worked with mr=
 giordano=C2=A0 at chartlon that his friend passed=20




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=C2=A0=20
I meet Dick and his lady wife a couple of decades back at a UK comics con a=
nd found him to be a true gentleman.

When I showed him a 'Sarge Steel' issue that I had picked up that day he wa=
s just like a big kid reading though it and telling me how much he loved th=
e character.

A truely GREAT man and a great loss to us all.

-Nigel

--- On Sun, 28/3/10, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com> wrote:

> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Dick Giordano RIP
> To: CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 28 March, 2010, 9:04
> Word is circulating across the net
> that Charlton editor and mainstay artist for decades Dick
> Giordano has passed away.=20
>=20
> Here's a link to some of the first news of it I found:
>=20
> http://io9.com/5503533/dc-comics-superstar-dick-giordano-is-dead-at-77/ga=
llery/
>=20
> I'm sure there will be much more to say about this
> fantastic man and great artist. I have plenty.
>=20
> Rip Off
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Subject: Sarge Steel By Francavilla!
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Here's a link to see a wonderfully clever image of Sarge Steel By Francesco=
 Francavilla. It's creation was a reflection on the career of Dick Giordano=
.
Here's the link:

http://pulpsunday.blogspot.com/2010/03/sarge-steel.html



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That's an excellent piece! Thanks for sharing it. 

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Here's a link to see a wonderfully clever image of Sarge Steel By Francesco Francavilla. It's creation was a reflection on the career of Dick Giordano. 
Here's the link: 

http://pulpsunday.blogspot.com/2010/03/sarge-steel.html 



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Subject: Henry Scarpelli RIP
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Here's some more sad news for Charlton fans. Henry Scarpelli, the artist on=
 Abbott & Costello and Charlton Premiere #3 featuring Sinistro Boy Fiend ha=
s passed away.=20

Here's a link with more information:

http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/?p=3D2853


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Sad news! I printed an interview with Henry back in Charlton Spotlight #3, =
and he was very, very nice guy, willing to answer any question. He always s=
ent me a fun little note to acknowledge the latest issue in his mail. Henry=
's Charlton contributions were small in number but definitely not minor.

-Mike A

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> Here's some more sad news for Charlton fans. Henry Scarpelli, the artist =
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>=20
> Here's a link with more information:
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> http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/?p=3D2853
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Subject: Hagar the Horrible?
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I just learned that one of ACG's reprints features Hagar the Horrible. Acco=
rding to GCD, one of the stories at least is an unpublished Charlton effort=
. Do I correctly assume that Charlton was geared up to publish Hagar when t=
hey had the King license? I'm not aware that they ever did anything with Ha=
gar, but it would seem they intended to.=20

What's the story?

Rip Off


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that's pretty much the story - they had an issue ready to go, when the
results of sales during the great blizzard put them on hold (and forced cut
backs at DC and Marvel).
    'talent" used to be one of the cheapest expenses in comics.

steven rowe

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I just learned that one of ACG's reprints features Hagar the Horrible.
> According to GCD, one of the stories at least is an unpublished Charlton
> effort. Do I correctly assume that Charlton was geared up to publish Haga=
r
> when they had the King license? I'm not aware that they ever did anything
> with Hagar, but it would seem they intended to.
>
> What's the story?
>
> Rip Off
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Thanks Steve. I need to scout one of those issues up. I don't think I've ev=
er seen it in an actual store though.=20

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> that's pretty much the story - they had an issue ready to go, when the
> results of sales during the great blizzard put them on hold (and forced c=
ut
> backs at DC and Marvel).
>     'talent" used to be one of the cheapest expenses in comics.
>=20
> steven rowe
>=20
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > I just learned that one of ACG's reprints features Hagar the Horrible.
> > According to GCD, one of the stories at least is an unpublished Charlto=
n
> > effort. Do I correctly assume that Charlton was geared up to publish Ha=
gar
> > when they had the King license? I'm not aware that they ever did anythi=
ng
> > with Hagar, but it would seem they intended to.
> >
> > What's the story?
> >
> > Rip Off
> >
> >=20=20
> >
>=20
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I've just added The Tyro Team story from Charlton Premiere #1 to the Files =
Section. This means that all three stories from that issue are in the Files=
 now. The Spookman, The Shape, and now The Tyro Team are all on board here =
at the Bullseye.=20

Enjoy!

Dean


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Funny, I was just finishing a Heroclix mod figure of The Shape when I got your e-mail. The body of Klaw (Marvel villain), powers of Clayface (DC villain), combined with a bit of acrylic paint became the Shape, a Charlton hero! The Tyro team amd Spookman are a bit beyond my current possibilities, I fear.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  I've just added The Tyro Team story from Charlton Premiere #1 to the Files Section. This means that all three stories from that issue are in the Files now. The Spookman, The Shape, and now The Tyro Team are all on board here at the Bullseye. 

  Enjoy!

  Dean




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Does the book length story scheduled for Charlton Premiere of The Tyro Team=
 still exist? I would love to see it!
=20
- Laurence


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Thanks, Dean.=C2=A0 I've read or have all of those stories, but I'm sure th=
ere are other here who haven't.=C2=A0 It is very interesting the diversity =
that came out of Charlton.=C2=A0 One wonders what would have happened had t=
he company not gone out of business.

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
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=C2=A0=20



I've just added The Tyro Team story from Charlton Premiere #1 to the Files =
Section. This means that all three stories from that issue are in the Files=
 now. The Spookman, The Shape, and now The Tyro Team are all on board here =
at the Bullseye.=20

Enjoy!

Dean









=20=20=20=20=20=20

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>
> Does the book length story scheduled for Charlton Premiere of The Tyro Te=
am still exist? I would love to see it!
>=20=20

I never knew a booklength story was planned.  Was anything done on it?


MB


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It was announced in the Charlton Premiere letters page that since the Tyro =
Team were so popular from the first issue, the next issue would be a full l=
ength Tyro Team story. The next issue was never published.





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=20=20
--- In CharltonBullseye@ yahoogroups. com, laurencevegan2 <no_reply@.. .> w=
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> Does the book length story scheduled for Charlton Premiere of The Tyro Te=
am still exist? I would love to see it!
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I never knew a booklength story was planned.  Was anything done on it?

MB


=20


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I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Love". H=
e's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clothes fr=
om the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chicks to=
 date.=20

I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've found o=
nly one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the serie=
s promises.=20

Anyone expert on this cat?

The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items too. App=
arently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20

Rip Off


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I'm not an expert on ol' Jonnie, but if you check the "Characters" link at =
the Charlton Spotlight website (www.charltonspotlight.com) there's a list o=
f his appearances in various titles and issues, thanks to Ramon.

Other continuing Charlton romance characters include David and Eileen and t=
heir marital travails.

Proving once again that "Charlton Comics Give You More!"

Mike A.

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>
> I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Love".=
 He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clothes =
from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chicks =
to date.=20
>=20
> I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've found=
 only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the ser=
ies promises.=20
>=20
> Anyone expert on this cat?
>=20
> The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items too. A=
pparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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From: "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Jonnie Love?
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I did check out that wonderful resource. I've found a few more appearances =
by Jonnie Love.=20

Here's what Ramon lists:

"Jonnie Love
Appearances: TEEN-AGE LOVE #66, 70, 72, 79, 82, 87, 89, 91; MY ONLY LOVE #2=
."

I found some more Teen-Age Love appearances and a couple in Teen Confession=
s. He seems to have debuted in Teen Age Love #62. The last appearance in th=
e comic is #96. There's also a reprint of one in I Love You. I'll try to ro=
und up the issue numbers a bit later.=20

Rip Off



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not an expert on ol' Jonnie, but if you check the "Characters" link a=
t the Charlton Spotlight website (www.charltonspotlight.com) there's a list=
 of his appearances in various titles and issues, thanks to Ramon.
>=20
> Other continuing Charlton romance characters include David and Eileen and=
 their marital travails.
>=20
> Proving once again that "Charlton Comics Give You More!"
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Love=
". He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clothe=
s from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chick=
s to date.=20
> >=20
> > I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've fou=
nd only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the s=
eries promises.=20
> >=20
> > Anyone expert on this cat?
> >=20
> > The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items too.=
 Apparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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From: "Michael" <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Jonnie Love?
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Cool that you've found more appearances. Rip, an issue-by-issue survey of t=
he Jonnie Love stories would seem to be in order. Your recent posts on Sarg=
e Steel and T-Bolt were splendid.

Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
>=20
>=20
> I did check out that wonderful resource. I've found a few more appearance=
s by Jonnie Love.=20
>=20
> Here's what Ramon lists:
>=20
> "Jonnie Love
> Appearances: TEEN-AGE LOVE #66, 70, 72, 79, 82, 87, 89, 91; MY ONLY LOVE =
#2."
>=20
> I found some more Teen-Age Love appearances and a couple in Teen Confessi=
ons. He seems to have debuted in Teen Age Love #62. The last appearance in =
the comic is #96. There's also a reprint of one in I Love You. I'll try to =
round up the issue numbers a bit later.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not an expert on ol' Jonnie, but if you check the "Characters" link=
 at the Charlton Spotlight website (www.charltonspotlight.com) there's a li=
st of his appearances in various titles and issues, thanks to Ramon.
> >=20
> > Other continuing Charlton romance characters include David and Eileen a=
nd their marital travails.
> >=20
> > Proving once again that "Charlton Comics Give You More!"
> >=20
> > Mike A.
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrot=
e:
> > >
> > > I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Lo=
ve". He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clot=
hes from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chi=
cks to date.=20
> > >=20
> > > I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've f=
ound only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the=
 series promises.=20
> > >=20
> > > Anyone expert on this cat?
> > >=20
> > > The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items to=
o. Apparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
> > >=20
> > > Rip Off
> > >
> >
>



From ripjagger@yahoo.com Thu Apr 29 01:28:58 2010
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From: "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Jonnie Love?
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The crummy part. I stumbled across this character and did some searching fi=
nding some great cover appearances and whatnot, but I don't know for sure i=
f I have a single copy of an appearance. My Charlton romance collection is =
pretty random. I do get them from time to time because of those outstanding=
 covers.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Cool that you've found more appearances. Rip, an issue-by-issue survey of=
 the Jonnie Love stories would seem to be in order. Your recent posts on Sa=
rge Steel and T-Bolt were splendid.
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> >=20
> >=20
> > I did check out that wonderful resource. I've found a few more appearan=
ces by Jonnie Love.=20
> >=20
> > Here's what Ramon lists:
> >=20
> > "Jonnie Love
> > Appearances: TEEN-AGE LOVE #66, 70, 72, 79, 82, 87, 89, 91; MY ONLY LOV=
E #2."
> >=20
> > I found some more Teen-Age Love appearances and a couple in Teen Confes=
sions. He seems to have debuted in Teen Age Love #62. The last appearance i=
n the comic is #96. There's also a reprint of one in I Love You. I'll try t=
o round up the issue numbers a bit later.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not an expert on ol' Jonnie, but if you check the "Characters" li=
nk at the Charlton Spotlight website (www.charltonspotlight.com) there's a =
list of his appearances in various titles and issues, thanks to Ramon.
> > >=20
> > > Other continuing Charlton romance characters include David and Eileen=
 and their marital travails.
> > >=20
> > > Proving once again that "Charlton Comics Give You More!"
> > >=20
> > > Mike A.
> > >=20
> > > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wr=
ote:
> > > >
> > > > I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie =
Love". He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip cl=
othes from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding c=
hicks to date.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've=
 found only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what t=
he series promises.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Anyone expert on this cat?
> > > >=20
> > > > The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items =
too. Apparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Rip Off
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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From: "SpecterG" <spectergirl@yahoo.com>
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While I don't have nearly all his appearances, I so have several issues fea=
turing the Jonnie Love charactor.=20

I have covered a little of him on my blog here ... http://astoldtostanlee.b=
logspot.com/.

If you are interested I can certainly send scans your way.


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Love".=
 He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clothes =
from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chicks =
to date.=20
>=20
> I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've found=
 only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the ser=
ies promises.=20
>=20
> Anyone expert on this cat?
>=20
> The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items too. A=
pparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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From: "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Jonnie Love?
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Now those stories are true hoot! Jonnie Love is every bit the scoundrel I i=
magined he had to be, all the time convincing the young ladies (and older t=
oo it seems) that he's a good guy. Sheesh!

Thanks a bunch for those.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "SpecterG" <spectergirl@...> wrote=
:
>
> While I don't have nearly all his appearances, I so have several issues f=
eaturing the Jonnie Love charactor.=20
>=20
> I have covered a little of him on my blog here ... http://astoldtostanlee=
.blogspot.com/.
>=20
> If you are interested I can certainly send scans your way.
>=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > I chanced upon a Teen-Age Love cover featuring a guy named "Jonnie Love=
". He's a bearded hippie biker sporting clothes from the typical hip clothe=
s from the early 70's and he apparently roams the countryside finding chick=
s to date.=20
> >=20
> > I found there are a whole series of covers featuring this guy. I've fou=
nd only one story online with this guy, but it seems atypical of what the s=
eries promises.=20
> >=20
> > Anyone expert on this cat?
> >=20
> > The covers are fun, and I bet the stories are pretty curious items too.=
 Apparently Jose Garcia-Lopez drew some of these too.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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Yahoo has made this an "adult club" although it shouldn't be, it's a club a=
bout comic books. I've had this happen before to some other clubs on yahoo.=
 It can be put back to where it's supposed to be, though. - Benny Drinnon


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I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for the heads up. I've sent in a request to c=
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> Yahoo has made this an "adult club" although it shouldn't be, it's a club=
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o. It can be put back to where it's supposed to be, though. - Benny Drinnon
>



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If you guys would just stop talking dirty....
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I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for the heads up. I've sent in a request to c=
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> Yahoo has made this an "adult club" although it shouldn't be, it's a club=
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Hi All-


Some of you may have seen this from another Yahoo Group..bear with me if
you have.


I'm new here, and new to comics as well. Two months ago I knew nothing
about them at all. My older brother was Googling our father's name and
came up with a hit on the cover of a comic book. It was Charlton's
Cowboy Western #37 published in 1952?

Our father died on Father's Day in 1974 at the age of 49. His name was
Dennis Laugen. We had NO idea he had ever worked in comic art. As it
turns out, his best friend was a guy named Lou Morales. "Uncle Lou" was
at our house often. They both were in their mid 20's in the early
1950's, when apparently they both worked at Charlton with a guy named
Dick Giordano.

My Dad's buddy Lou Morales died in the early 1960's, from complications
due to gall-bladder surgery. He was thirty something.

After calling a bunch of comic shops locally, and scouring the 'net, it
turns out Charlton was pretty B grade stuff. My siblings and I were
still very excited, being that we just found out 55 years after the
fact; that Dad had done this work. Mom had never talked about it, or
him, for that matter , after he died. She passed in 1998.

A comic book guy on the phone said I should contact Dick Giordano and
ask him if he remembered my Dad or Lou. I emailed Mr. Giordano that day,
and explained the situation.

Turns out he died 2 days later. Jesus.

Anyway, I just wanted to mention this weird little story in hopes that
someone would have a copy of Cowboy Western #37 and some other stuff Dad
did. I looked up Dad and Lou in the GCD, thanks to some guys like you
all who steered me along. Man you guys know your stuff. I think Lou
stuck with it much longer than Dad. It appears Dad quit and got a "real"
job just about the time my brother was born. Lou never had kids to
support, so drew into the 1960's.

Well, thanks for your time and interest. Feel free to contact me if you
have anything I can buy, or give me any info you might have to offer. My
email address is amazingfour@...
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From: Allen <metron12001@yahoo.com>
Subject: [kirby-l] Unpublished Steve Ditko Flash Gordon stories
To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 5:17 PM


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On the Ditkomania yahoo list, this has been the subject of some discussion.=
 I think it would be great if someone, or everyone reading this, would emai=
l King Features Syndicate to ask that they reprint these unpublished issues=
 (four of five of them, if what I've read is correct) or license the rights=
 to someone else. I'm trying to spread the word.

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Does anyone here know the answer to this?

Phil Latter

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Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Re: Billy the Kid.
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BBTW, the Four Color=C2=A0series is missing a few numbers, particularly tow=
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The missing issues were released as regular numbered issues (#1, 2 etc) or =
as those oddball numbered issues #12-058-211 (made up example), when Dell c=
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I saw that movie; liked it!

I find it odd that Hollywood in most movies, made a hero out of Billy The K=
id. I've read books on him. In real life, he was a coward, who'd shoot down=
 and kill, even unarmed men who looked his way. Others, he shot in the back=
. He was pond scum, and needed to be shot down.=20
He was shot and killed by his former friend, Pat Garrett.
Billy The Kid was a mad dog.=20

A question for Don Glut and/-or anyone else here: have you read the Robert.=
 M. Utley book titled BILLY THE KID? I own this book. It sure tells who who=
 Billy The Kid really was.

Phil Latter

--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Will <whansen777@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Will <whansen777@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Re: Billy the Kid.
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
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Bob Dylan and James Coburn, with Kris Kristofferson as Billy The Kid.
I have many of the Charlton Billy the Kid comics and find them to be a lot =
of fun.
Will
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Mike,

Just to let you know,

Billy The Kid's real birth name was not Billy Bonney, as you suggested.
His birth name, and the name he lived by, as a boy, was, believe it or not,=
 Henry McCarty.
Yes, that's right.=20
Once he began running afoul of the law, and possibly even before that,=C2=
=A0 he was even then, for quite some time, not known as 'Billy The Kid' for=
 quite some time; but merely as 'The Kid', owed to his youthful countenace,=
 the way he behaved, and carried himself, and he died at the tender young a=
ge of 21.

He and his brother Joe were present at his mother's, the widow's=C2=A0 (Cat=
herine McCarty) wedding to Bill Antrim. Antrim was not Billy The Kid's fath=
er. This wedding took place in Sante Fe, New Mexico, on March 1, 1873. Bill=
y The Kid, not known by that nom de plume at the time, was 13 years old at =
the time. His mother was then 43.
How, when, and how, or with whom, Catherine had been widowed, according to =
the book I read, are disputed questions. Henry ('Billy The Kid') Antrim was=
 born on either September 17, 1859, or November 20, 1859. Yes, even The Kid=
's birthdate is in dispute. But it is said to be one or the other, for reas=
ons too long to explain. All this info comes from Robert M. Utley's extensi=
vely researched book BILLY THE KID.

Billy the kid as a YOUNG teenager was known by both the names Henry Antrim,=
 after his stepfather, and also as Henry McCarty.
His mother died of tuberculosis nineteen months after her marriage, which I=
 mentioned above. He started his criminal career as a theif, of food, of cl=
othes (from a Chinese laundry), and later of horses, etc. Early on, he refe=
rred to himself as 'Kid Antrim.'

The name William H. Bonney was a false name he adopted, while known as 'Kid=
 Antrim.'
William H. Bonney, again, was NOT his real name.=20
Henry Antrim, also known as Henry McCarty, again, was later known as 'The K=
id', and many, many years later, as 'Billy The Kid'.
The eventual name that he was called by, by most everyone, Billy The Kid, c=
ame from his false alias of William (or Billy). H. Bonney.

Thus proving that truth is stranger than mere fiction!

Phil Latter









--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Billy The Kid, and a question for Don Glut
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:03 PM







=C2=A0



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      For a few years as a young'un in the mid-'60s, I lived just a few mil=
es from Lincoln, New Mexico, where Billy had his heyday as an outlaw. Many =
times then and since I've visited there. The Lincoln County courthouse is v=
irtually unchanged from those days and still shows bullet holes in its wall=
s from where Billy shot his way out of the clink one time, killing a deputy=
 or two in the process. The whole town is still virtually unchanged from ca=
. 1880 and I urge anyone with an interest to get down there and take it all=
 in anytime of the year, but especially during annual "Billy the Kid Days."



Those were heady times in the New Mexico territory, with Texas cattle baron=
s competing against each other in the Lincoln County Wars and local gangs o=
f thugs and owlhoots gunning with one side or another. Billy Bonney (if tha=
t was his real name) was just one of many mean, ignorant, vicious young lou=
ts with a ready hand at heavy firearms as eager to rustle cattle as to gun =
down an enemy. Pat Garrett made a career and a legend of himself out of amb=
ushing BTK one night and putting an end to another outlaw's short life. Abo=
ut the only thing we can really be sure of in all this is that the real Bil=
ly the Kid didn't at all resemble the Jose Delbo or Warren Sattler version!



Mike A.



--- In charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wrote:

>

> I saw that movie; liked it!

>=20

> I find it odd that Hollywood in most movies, made a hero out of Billy The=
 Kid. I've read books on him. In real life, he was a coward, who'd shoot do=
wn and kill, even unarmed men who looked his way. Others, he shot in the ba=
ck. He was pond scum, and needed to be shot down.=20

> He was shot and killed by his former friend, Pat Garrett.

> Billy The Kid was a mad dog.=20

>=20

> A question for Don Glut and/-or anyone else here: have you read the Rober=
t. M. Utley book titled BILLY THE KID? I own this book. It sure tells who w=
ho Billy The Kid really was.

>=20

> Phil Latter

>=20

> --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Will <whansen777@...> wrote:

>=20

> From: Will <whansen777@...>

> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Re: Billy the Kid.

> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com

> Received: Monday, July 5, 2010, 7:58 PM

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>       Not to get too off-topic, but the first Billy the Kid movie I thoug=
ht of was "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid", directed by Sam Peckinpah, starrin=
g Bob Dylan and James Coburn, with Kris Kristofferson as Billy The Kid.

> I have many of the Charlton Billy the Kid comics and find them to be a lo=
t of fun.

> Will

> =C3=82=C2=A0

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Interestingly enough...my most prominent memory of the character leans more=
 towards Geoffrey Duel's portrayal in John Wayne's "Chisum" (1970)...With t=
he next closest being either the 1966 "Billy the Kid vs Dracula" (blush)...=
or Paul Newman's 1958 "The Left-Handed Gun" (adapted from a Gore Vidal play=
)...
I'm curious what Andrew Fenady (Chisum) based his portrayal on...if anythin=
g other than his experience writing TV westerns...in that it has similariti=
es to the Vidal portrayal...Billy as mis-understood young man until his ben=
efactor Henry Tunstall is gunned down. Even though both movies seem to poin=
t towards a less than stellar reputation before his employment by Tunstall.=
..
Obviously, like any ancient or even modern myth, serious background study u=
sually reveals facades...but often grains of truth somewhere in the mix...

Stephan Friedt
www.comicspriceguide.com

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> Mike,
>=20
> Just to let you know,
>=20
> Billy The Kid's real birth name was not Billy Bonney, as you suggested.
> His birth name, and the name he lived by, as a boy, was, believe it or no=
t, Henry McCarty.
> Yes, that's right.=20
> Once he began running afoul of the law, and possibly even before that,=C2=
=A0 he was even then, for quite some time, not known as 'Billy The Kid' for=
 quite some time; but merely as 'The Kid', owed to his youthful countenace,=
 the way he behaved, and carried himself, and he died at the tender young a=
ge of 21.
>=20
> He and his brother Joe were present at his mother's, the widow's=C2=A0 (C=
atherine McCarty) wedding to Bill Antrim. Antrim was not Billy The Kid's fa=
ther. This wedding took place in Sante Fe, New Mexico, on March 1, 1873. Bi=
lly The Kid, not known by that nom de plume at the time, was 13 years old a=
t the time. His mother was then 43.
> How, when, and how, or with whom, Catherine had been widowed, according t=
o the book I read, are disputed questions. Henry ('Billy The Kid') Antrim w=
as born on either September 17, 1859, or November 20, 1859. Yes, even The K=
id's birthdate is in dispute. But it is said to be one or the other, for re=
asons too long to explain. All this info comes from Robert M. Utley's exten=
sively researched book BILLY THE KID.
>=20
> Billy the kid as a YOUNG teenager was known by both the names Henry Antri=
m, after his stepfather, and also as Henry McCarty.
> His mother died of tuberculosis nineteen months after her marriage, which=
 I mentioned above. He started his criminal career as a theif, of food, of =
clothes (from a Chinese laundry), and later of horses, etc. Early on, he re=
ferred to himself as 'Kid Antrim.'
>=20
> The name William H. Bonney was a false name he adopted, while known as 'K=
id Antrim.'
> William H. Bonney, again, was NOT his real name.=20
> Henry Antrim, also known as Henry McCarty, again, was later known as 'The=
 Kid', and many, many years later, as 'Billy The Kid'.
> The eventual name that he was called by, by most everyone, Billy The Kid,=
 came from his false alias of William (or Billy). H. Bonney.
>=20
> Thus proving that truth is stranger than mere fiction!
>=20
> Phil Latter
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Michael <charspot01@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Billy The Kid, and a question for Don Glut
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:03 PM
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>       For a few years as a young'un in the mid-'60s, I lived just a few m=
iles from Lincoln, New Mexico, where Billy had his heyday as an outlaw. Man=
y times then and since I've visited there. The Lincoln County courthouse is=
 virtually unchanged from those days and still shows bullet holes in its wa=
lls from where Billy shot his way out of the clink one time, killing a depu=
ty or two in the process. The whole town is still virtually unchanged from =
ca. 1880 and I urge anyone with an interest to get down there and take it a=
ll in anytime of the year, but especially during annual "Billy the Kid Days=
."
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Those were heady times in the New Mexico territory, with Texas cattle bar=
ons competing against each other in the Lincoln County Wars and local gangs=
 of thugs and owlhoots gunning with one side or another. Billy Bonney (if t=
hat was his real name) was just one of many mean, ignorant, vicious young l=
outs with a ready hand at heavy firearms as eager to rustle cattle as to gu=
n down an enemy. Pat Garrett made a career and a legend of himself out of a=
mbushing BTK one night and putting an end to another outlaw's short life. A=
bout the only thing we can really be sure of in all this is that the real B=
illy the Kid didn't at all resemble the Jose Delbo or Warren Sattler versio=
n!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- In charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@> wrote:
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> >
>=20
> > I saw that movie; liked it!
>=20
> >=20
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> > I find it odd that Hollywood in most movies, made a hero out of Billy T=
he Kid. I've read books on him. In real life, he was a coward, who'd shoot =
down and kill, even unarmed men who looked his way. Others, he shot in the =
back. He was pond scum, and needed to be shot down.=20
>=20
> > He was shot and killed by his former friend, Pat Garrett.
>=20
> > Billy The Kid was a mad dog.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > A question for Don Glut and/-or anyone else here: have you read the Rob=
ert. M. Utley book titled BILLY THE KID? I own this book. It sure tells who=
 who Billy The Kid really was.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > Phil Latter
>=20
> >=20
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> > --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Will <whansen777@> wrote:
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ught of was "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid", directed by Sam Peckinpah, starr=
ing Bob Dylan and James Coburn, with Kris Kristofferson as Billy The Kid.
>=20
> > I have many of the Charlton Billy the Kid comics and find them to be a =
lot of fun.
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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "cpg_shadow" <cpg_shadow@...> wrot=
e:
>
> Interestingly enough...my most prominent memory of the character leans mo=
re towards Geoffrey Duel's portrayal in John Wayne's "Chisum" (1970)...With=
 the next closest being either the 1966 "Billy the Kid vs Dracula" (blush).=
..or Paul Newman's 1958 "The Left-Handed Gun" (adapted from a Gore Vidal pl=
ay)...
> I'm curious what Andrew Fenady (Chisum) based his portrayal on...if anyth=
ing other than his experience writing TV westerns...in that it has similari=
ties to the Vidal portrayal...Billy as mis-understood young man until his b=
enefactor Henry Tunstall is gunned down. Even though both movies seem to po=
int towards a less than stellar reputation before his employment by Tunstal=
l...
> Obviously, like any ancient or even modern myth, serious background study=
 usually reveals facades...but often grains of truth somewhere in the mix..=
.
>=20
> Stephan Friedt
> www.comicspriceguide.com
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@> wro=
te:
> >
> > Mike,
> >=20
> > Just to let you know,
> >=20
> > Billy The Kid's real birth name was not Billy Bonney, as you suggested.
> > His birth name, and the name he lived by, as a boy, was, believe it or =
not, Henry McCarty.
> > Yes, that's right.=20
> > Once he began running afoul of the law, and possibly even before that,=
=C2=A0 he was even then, for quite some time, not known as 'Billy The Kid' =
for quite some time; but merely as 'The Kid', owed to his youthful countena=
ce, the way he behaved, and carried himself, and he died at the tender youn=
g age of 21.
> >=20
> > He and his brother Joe were present at his mother's, the widow's=C2=A0 =
(Catherine McCarty) wedding to Bill Antrim. Antrim was not Billy The Kid's =
father. This wedding took place in Sante Fe, New Mexico, on March 1, 1873. =
Billy The Kid, not known by that nom de plume at the time, was 13 years old=
 at the time. His mother was then 43.
> > How, when, and how, or with whom, Catherine had been widowed, according=
 to the book I read, are disputed questions. Henry ('Billy The Kid') Antrim=
 was born on either September 17, 1859, or November 20, 1859. Yes, even The=
 Kid's birthdate is in dispute. But it is said to be one or the other, for =
reasons too long to explain. All this info comes from Robert M. Utley's ext=
ensively researched book BILLY THE KID.
> >=20
> > Billy the kid as a YOUNG teenager was known by both the names Henry Ant=
rim, after his stepfather, and also as Henry McCarty.
> > His mother died of tuberculosis nineteen months after her marriage, whi=
ch I mentioned above. He started his criminal career as a theif, of food, o=
f clothes (from a Chinese laundry), and later of horses, etc. Early on, he =
referred to himself as 'Kid Antrim.'
> >=20
> > The name William H. Bonney was a false name he adopted, while known as =
'Kid Antrim.'
> > William H. Bonney, again, was NOT his real name.=20
> > Henry Antrim, also known as Henry McCarty, again, was later known as 'T=
he Kid', and many, many years later, as 'Billy The Kid'.
> > The eventual name that he was called by, by most everyone, Billy The Ki=
d, came from his false alias of William (or Billy). H. Bonney.
> >=20
> > Thus proving that truth is stranger than mere fiction!
> >=20
> > Phil Latter
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Michael <charspot01@> wrote:
> >=20
> > From: Michael <charspot01@>
> > Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Billy The Kid, and a question for Don Glut
> > To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:03 PM
> >=20
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> >       For a few years as a young'un in the mid-'60s, I lived just a few=
 miles from Lincoln, New Mexico, where Billy had his heyday as an outlaw. M=
any times then and since I've visited there. The Lincoln County courthouse =
is virtually unchanged from those days and still shows bullet holes in its =
walls from where Billy shot his way out of the clink one time, killing a de=
puty or two in the process. The whole town is still virtually unchanged fro=
m ca. 1880 and I urge anyone with an interest to get down there and take it=
 all in anytime of the year, but especially during annual "Billy the Kid Da=
ys."
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Those were heady times in the New Mexico territory, with Texas cattle b=
arons competing against each other in the Lincoln County Wars and local gan=
gs of thugs and owlhoots gunning with one side or another. Billy Bonney (if=
 that was his real name) was just one of many mean, ignorant, vicious young=
 louts with a ready hand at heavy firearms as eager to rustle cattle as to =
gun down an enemy. Pat Garrett made a career and a legend of himself out of=
 ambushing BTK one night and putting an end to another outlaw's short life.=
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Hi Folks,

One of my favourite comics fanzines of all time was the 1970's comics fanzine CPL, which stood for 'Contemporary Pictorial Literature.'

This fanzine was started by many comics fans who later became comic book professionals. And, many of the writers and artists for this zine later became pros too, people like Bob Layton, Roger Stern, John Byrne, Jim Starlin, Duffy Vohland, and many, many more.

I've been trying to put together a COMPLETE set of the CPL fanzine for decades, but they seem to be about as rare as hen's teeth!

This post is actually NOT off-topic for these two Charlton yahoo groups, because CPL was published by the so-called 'CPL GANG', most all of which were Charlton Comics employees. Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor for Charlton Comics' Charlton Bullseye slick fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CPL, also put out by the CPL Gang, at Charlton Comics!

It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!

I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine size issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years ago!

I've never been successful at finding a copy of the small comics zine put out by Charlton that shows how they create comics, nor a complete set of the black and white mag size EMERGENCY TV comic magazines. 

Yesterday, CPL # 7,8 & # 11 (eleven) arrived in the mail from ebay. I was after in that lot, only # 11 (eleven), as I already had copies of # 7 and # 8.

So now, I have TWO copies EACH, of CPL # 7 and # 8.

CPL # 6 has a Dan Adkins and Joe Sinnott Submariner cover, # 7 has a Craig P. Russell Doctor Strange cover, # 8 has a Marshall Rogers Mr. Miracle cover, the combined # 9/10 issue has a wraparound cover of all of the Charlton superhero 'action heroes' by Don Newton, CPL has a unique Alex Toth moody cover of UFO's flying over a ship at sea, and # 12 has a colour Paul Gulacy warrior woman.

Now, having received # 11, I finally have CPL original issues # 6,7,8, issue # '9/-10' ,11, and 12. Bob Layton informed me that CPL # 12 was indeed the final issue.

NOTE: CPL # '9/10' was a double # combined issue, and it that issue of CPL is more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio.'

Among other features, CPL # 9/10 contains the COMPLETE, otherwise never published Steve Ditko illustrated Charlton Blue Beetle # 6-! And, it's quite a dandy tale!

Previous to that, some years ago, well-known Canadian comic book dealer and one of the top ten advisers to the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide Doug Sulipa, had told me he was 'pretty sure' that there were fifteen total issues of CPL.

However, since Bob Layton was one of the originators of CPL, I think his knowledge would be greatest; that there were a grand total of twelve total issue of CPL, not fifteen. 

So now, I just need CPL issues # 1 through # 5. Of course, good luck finding them, I tell myself, since they are so very rare. Although, were I to find CPL # 1 through # 5, I would NOT be shy to pay high prices for them.

Does anyone know what the print runs of that zine various issues, were?

And, I'm even more curious: has anyone reading these words ever even seen, either in person, or on the internet, the covers for CPL # 1 through # 5-?

I have not. Not even once. And I am curious about that.

A blurb in one of the three CPL issues that arrived in my mailbox the other day, mentioned that CPL # 5 was an 'all Pulp (mags) issue', but that's all I know about it. 

I'm real curious to find out what was on the covers of CPL # 1 through # 5.

Just in case someone reading these words happens to own an original copy of CPL # 1,2,3,4 or 5, or even scans of same, I'd very much appreciate some info on those first five CPL issues, even if you don't want to part with same.

And, even if you've EVER owned those issues, even if you no longer own them, I'd appreciate any info on them. 

Thanks in advance, folks!

Phil Latter


 



  







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I accidentally omitted below, the fact that CPL # 11's cover was by Alex To=
th, done just for that issue!

Phil Latter

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      Hi Folks,

One of my favourite comics fanzines of all time was the 1970's comics fanzi=
ne CPL, which stood for 'Contemporary Pictorial Literature.'

This fanzine was started by many comics fans who later became comic book pr=
ofessionals. And, many of the writers and artists for this zine later becam=
e pros too, people like Bob Layton, Roger Stern, John Byrne, Jim Starlin, D=
uffy Vohland, and many, many more.

I've been trying to put together a COMPLETE set of the CPL fanzine for deca=
des, but they seem to be about as rare as hen's teeth!

This post is actually NOT off-topic for these two Charlton yahoo groups, be=
cause CPL was published by the so-called 'CPL GANG', most all of which were=
 Charlton Comics employees. Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct p=
redecessor for Charlton Comics' Charlton Bullseye slick
 fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CPL, also put out by the CPL =
Gang, at Charlton Comics!

It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!

I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine size=
 issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years a=
go!

I've never been successful at finding a copy of the small comics zine put o=
ut by Charlton that shows how they create comics, nor a complete set of the=
 black and white mag size EMERGENCY TV comic magazines.=20

Yesterday, CPL # 7,8 & # 11 (eleven) arrived in the mail from ebay. I was a=
fter in that lot, only # 11 (eleven), as I already had copies of # 7 and # =
8.

So now, I have TWO copies EACH, of CPL # 7 and # 8.

CPL # 6 has a Dan Adkins and Joe Sinnott Submariner cover, # 7 has a Craig =
P. Russell Doctor Strange cover, # 8 has a Marshall Rogers Mr. Miracle cove=
r, the combined # 9/10 issue has a
 wraparound cover of all of the Charlton superhero 'action heroes' by Don N=
ewton, CPL has a unique Alex Toth moody cover of UFO's flying over a ship a=
t sea, and # 12 has a colour Paul Gulacy warrior woman.

Now, having received # 11, I finally have CPL original issues # 6,7,8, issu=
e # '9/-10' ,11, and 12. Bob Layton informed me that CPL # 12 was indeed th=
e final issue.

NOTE: CPL # '9/10' was a double # combined issue, and it that issue of CPL =
is more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio.'

Among other features, CPL # 9/10 contains the COMPLETE, otherwise never pub=
lished Steve Ditko illustrated Charlton Blue Beetle # 6-! And, it's quite a=
 dandy tale!

Previous to that, some years ago, well-known Canadian comic book dealer and=
 one of the top ten advisers to the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide Doug =
Sulipa, had told me he was 'pretty sure' that there were fifteen total issu=
es of CPL.

However, since Bob Layton was one
 of the originators of CPL, I think his knowledge would be greatest; that t=
here were a grand total of twelve total issue of CPL, not fifteen.=20

So now, I just need CPL issues # 1 through # 5. Of course, good luck findin=
g them, I tell myself, since they are so very rare. Although, were I to fin=
d CPL # 1 through # 5, I would NOT be shy to pay high prices for them.

Does anyone know what the print runs of that zine various issues, were?

And, I'm even more curious: has anyone reading these words ever even seen, =
either in person, or on the internet, the covers for CPL # 1 through # 5-?

I have not. Not even once. And I am curious about that.

A blurb in one of the three CPL issues that arrived in my mailbox the other=
 day, mentioned that CPL # 5 was an 'all Pulp (mags) issue', but that's all=
 I know about it.=20

I'm real curious to find out what was on the covers of CPL # 1 through # 5.

Just in case someone reading
 these words happens to own an original copy of CPL # 1,2,3,4 or 5, or even=
 scans of same, I'd very much appreciate some info on those first five CPL =
issues, even if you don't want to part with same.

And, even if you've EVER owned those issues, even if you no longer own them=
, I'd appreciate any info on them.=20

Thanks in advance, folks!

Phil Latter


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Hey Phil,

Thanks for this interesting rundown. Apart from CPL #9/10, I've never seen =
any other issues of that mag. Good luck with your quest.

You state that there were six issues of CHARLTON BULLSEYE. I've only ever s=
een five. Did I miss something???

=3DMike A.

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ote:
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Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor for Charlton Comi=
cs' Charlton Bullseye slick fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CP=
L, also put out by the CPL Gang, at Charlton Comics!
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ze issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years=
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Hi Michael,

The error was mine. I checked and you are right, there were only five issue=
s of the mag sized Charlton Bullseye fanzine.=20

Best,

Phil

There was later an anthology comic book title published by Charlton, with t=
he same name, and that later series ran ten issues.=20

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=C2=A0



=20=20


=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
      Hey Phil,



Thanks for this interesting rundown. Apart from CPL #9/10, I've never seen =
any other issues of that mag. Good luck with your quest.



You state that there were six issues of CHARLTON BULLSEYE. I've only ever s=
een five. Did I miss something???



=3DMike A.



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:

>=20

Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor for Charlton Comi=
cs' Charlton Bullseye slick fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CP=
L, also put out by the CPL Gang, at Charlton Comics!

>=20

> It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!

>=20

> I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine si=
ze issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years=
 ago!

>=20





=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20

=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20


=20



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I remember it well -- I bought & #12 back when they were new. Those were th=
e=20
days ...

Dan





________________________________
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 8:11:35 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial=
=20
Literature-!

=20=20
I accidentally omitted below, the fact that CPL # 11's cover was by Alex To=
th,=20
done just for that issue!

Phil Latter

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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [charlton-l] CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature-! [3 Attach=
ments]
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=20

[Attachment(s) from Phil Latter included below]


Hi Folks,

One of my favourite comics fanzines of all time was the 1970's comics fanzi=
ne=20
CPL, which stood for 'Contemporary Pictorial Literature.'

This fanzine was started by many comics fans who later became comic book=20
professionals. And, many of the writers and artists for this zine later bec=
ame=20
pros too, people like Bob Layton, Roger Stern, John Byrne, Jim Starlin, Duf=
fy=20
Vohland, and many, many more.

I've been trying to put together a COMPLETE set of the CPL fanzine for deca=
des,=20
but they seem to be about as rare as hen's teeth!

This post is actually NOT off-topic for these two Charlton yahoo groups, be=
cause=20
CPL was published by the so-called 'CPL GANG', most all of which were Charl=
ton=20
Comics employees. Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor=
 for=20
Charlton Comics' Charlton Bullseye slick
fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CPL, also put out by the CPL G=
ang,=20
at Charlton Comics!

It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!

I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine size=
=20
issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years ag=
o!

I've never been successful at finding a copy of the small comics zine put o=
ut by=20
Charlton that shows how they create comics, nor a complete set of the black=
 and=20
white mag size EMERGENCY TV comic magazines.=20


Yesterday, CPL # 7,8 & # 11 (eleven) arrived in the mail from ebay. I was a=
fter=20
in that lot, only # 11 (eleven), as I already had copies of # 7 and # 8.

So now, I have TWO copies EACH, of CPL # 7 and # 8.

CPL # 6 has a Dan Adkins and Joe Sinnott Submariner cover, # 7 has a Craig =
P.=20
Russell Doctor Strange cover, # 8 has a Marshall Rogers Mr. Miracle cover, =
the=20
combined # 9/10 issue has a
wraparound cover of all of the Charlton superhero 'action heroes' by Don Ne=
wton,=20
CPL has a unique Alex Toth moody cover of UFO's flying over a ship at sea, =
and #=20
12 has a colour Paul Gulacy warrior woman.

Now, having received # 11, I finally have CPL original issues # 6,7,8, issu=
e #=20
'9/-10' ,11, and 12. Bob Layton informed me that CPL # 12 was indeed the fi=
nal=20
issue.

NOTE: CPL # '9/10' was a double # combined issue, and it that issue of CPL =
is=20
more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio.'

Among other features, CPL # 9/10 contains the COMPLETE, otherwise never=20
published Steve Ditko illustrated Charlton Blue Beetle # 6-! And, it's quit=
e a=20
dandy tale!

Previous to that, some years ago, well-known Canadian comic book dealer and=
 one=20
of the top ten advisers to the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide Doug Sulip=
a,=20
had told me he was 'pretty sure' that there were fifteen total issues of CP=
L.

However, since Bob Layton was one
of the originators of CPL, I think his knowledge would be greatest; that th=
ere=20
were a grand total of twelve total issue of CPL, not fifteen.=20


So now, I just need CPL issues # 1 through # 5. Of course, good luck findin=
g=20
them, I tell myself, since they are so very rare. Although, were I to find =
CPL #=20
1 through # 5, I would NOT be shy to pay high prices for them.

Does anyone know what the print runs of that zine various issues, were?

And, I'm even more curious: has anyone reading these words ever even seen,=
=20
either in person, or on the internet, the covers for CPL # 1 through # 5-?

I have not. Not even once. And I am curious about that.

A blurb in one of the three CPL issues that arrived in my mailbox the other=
 day,=20
mentioned that CPL # 5 was an 'all Pulp (mags) issue', but that's all I kno=
w=20
about it.=20


I'm real curious to find out what was on the covers of CPL # 1 through # 5.

Just in case someone reading
these words happens to own an original copy of CPL # 1,2,3,4 or 5, or even =
scans=20
of same, I'd very much appreciate some info on those first five CPL issues,=
 even=20
if you don't want to part with same.

And, even if you've EVER owned those issues, even if you no longer own them=
, I'd=20
appreciate any info on them.=20


Thanks in advance, folks!

Phil Latter

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I asked the question to the John Byrne forum.=C2=A0 JB did not have an answ=
er but emailed Roger Stern to ask him.=C2=A0=C2=A0Stern's reply did not add=
ress the covers but he said that the first four issues of CPL functioned as=
 Bob Layton's=C2=A0sales catalogue for his business and that
CPL #5 was the first issue as a Fanzine -- with a smaller 4-page catalogue =
insert -- and also the first to feature the work of JB and Stern.
=C2=A0
I hope that this helps somewhat.


Will
--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature-!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 11:50 AM


=C2=A0=20



Hi Michael,

The error was mine. I checked and you are right, there were only five issue=
s of the mag sized Charlton Bullseye fanzine.=20

Best,

Phil

There was later an anthology comic book title published by Charlton, with t=
he same name, and that later series ran ten issues.=20

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature-!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 11:04 AM

=C2=A0

Hey Phil,

Thanks for this interesting rundown. Apart from CPL #9/10, I've never seen =
any other issues of that mag. Good luck with your quest.

You state that there were six issues of CHARLTON BULLSEYE. I've only ever s=
een five. Did I miss something???

=3DMike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:

>=20

Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor for Charlton Comi=
cs' Charlton Bullseye slick fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CP=
L, also put out by the CPL Gang, at Charlton Comics!

>=20

> It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!

>=20

> I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine si=
ze issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years=
 ago!

>=20

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]









=20=20=20=20=20=20

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It does help, Will.
Would you mind asking him what the title of the catalogue for # 1 to # 4 wa=
s?

Phil

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From: Will <whansen777@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literatu=
re-!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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=C2=A0



=20=20


=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
      I asked the question to the John Byrne forum.=C2=A0 JB did not have a=
n answer but emailed Roger Stern to ask him.=C2=A0=C2=A0Stern's reply did n=
ot address the covers but he said that the first four issues of CPL functio=
ned as Bob Layton's=C2=A0sales catalogue for his business and that

CPL #5 was the first issue as a Fanzine -- with a smaller 4-page catalogue =
insert -- and also the first to feature the work of JB and Stern.

=C2=A0

I hope that this helps somewhat.



Will

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:



From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>

Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature-!

To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 11:50 AM



=C2=A0=20



Hi Michael,



The error was mine. I checked and you are right, there were only five issue=
s of the mag sized Charlton Bullseye fanzine.=20



Best,



Phil



There was later an anthology comic book title published by Charlton, with t=
he same name, and that later series ran ten issues.=20



--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:



From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>

Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature-!

To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com

Received: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 11:04 AM



=C2=A0



Hey Phil,



Thanks for this interesting rundown. Apart from CPL #9/10, I've never seen =
any other issues of that mag. Good luck with your quest.



You state that there were six issues of CHARLTON BULLSEYE. I've only ever s=
een five. Did I miss something???



=3DMike A.



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:



>=20



Not only that, CPL the fanzine was the direct predecessor for Charlton Comi=
cs' Charlton Bullseye slick fanzine, which ran six issues, and was, like CP=
L, also put out by the CPL Gang, at Charlton Comics!



>=20



> It even says so, right in CPL (and Charlton Bullseye) issues!



>=20



> I actually completed, in high grade, my collection of the six magazine si=
ze issues of the later Charlton fanzine CHARLTON BULLSEYE, many, many years=
 ago!



>=20



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20

=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20


=20



=20=20







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Subject: CPL #11 & 12 Added To Files!
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All this great talk about the CPL Gang and the CPL (Contemporary Pictorial =
Literature) fanzine encouraged me to put scans of CPL #11 and #12 in the Fi=
les Section. These are not scans of books I personally own alas, but they a=
re fun reads. The only CPL Gang stuff I personally own is the great Portfol=
io #9 and #10 combo issue.=20




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Thanks,
Dean.

I have CPL # 6, 7, 8, the double combined issue # 9/10 (also known as THE C=
HARLTON PORTFOLIO), and # 11 and # 12.
Note: I have two copies each, of # 7 and # 8

Phil Latter

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orial Literature) fanzine encouraged me to put scans of CPL #11 and #12 in =
the Files Section. These are not scans of books I personally own alas, but =
they are fun reads. The only CPL Gang stuff I personally own is the great P=
ortfolio #9 and #10 combo issue.=20





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The Mcdonald's I went to, they only had The Joker, Plastic Man and Batman, =
which they said are the first three releases. I bought all three.
There's eight in the entire set, as they had a sealed (under plexiglass) di=
splay of all eight figures. Just prior to that, there was a Marvel version,=
 with eight different Marvel characters.
I didn't buy those, but for those curious, they were: The Thing, The Hulk, =
Wolverine, Spiderman, Silver Surfer, and I forget the other three. I do rec=
all that there were eight in that set, also, however.

The current DC Batman: Brave And The Bold set, based on the new animated se=
ries of the same name, the others are Batmobile (a new version), Green Arro=
w, Aquaman, Blue Beetle (the Jaimie Reyes newest/-current version), and I f=
orget what the eighth figure in the set is.
Curiously, despite the fact that the guy on the counter told me that those =
were the first current DC Mcdonald's toy releases, the first three releases=
 (as above, Batman, Joker, and Plastic Man), the sealed bags they each came=
 in were numbered # 1, # 2, and....# 4 !
Go figure!

Phil

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From: fdurso@comcast.net <fdurso@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
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      ha!=20


I got suckered into going to McDonald's today by my son and his buddy (both=
 7)
I thought if this email and said "okay" and scretly hoped that they'd get B=
lue Beetle...
Frank "instead they got the Joker...." D'U!

=20=20=20=20
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The Secret: Ask the manager for a "customer appreciation pack" for the full 
set.  They have all eight of the current toy line available, you just pay for 
the cost of the toy without having to buy any food, and you get all eight at 
once without having to go back each week.  I scored a full set the Friday they 
were released for the about 8 bucks plus the cost of the mocha frappe I bought.

The Blue Beetle is definitely cool - actually in scale with the JLU lines and 
has a neat action feature.  




----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com; charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 8:44:42 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

The Mcdonald's I went to, they only had The Joker, Plastic Man and Batman, which 
they said are the first three releases. I bought all three.
There's eight in the entire set, as they had a sealed (under plexiglass) display 
of all eight figures. Just prior to that, there was a Marvel version, with eight 
different Marvel characters.
I didn't buy those, but for those curious, they were: The Thing, The Hulk, 
Wolverine, Spiderman, Silver Surfer, and I forget the other three. I do recall 
that there were eight in that set, also, however.

The current DC Batman: Brave And The Bold set, based on the new animated series 
of the same name, the others are Batmobile (a new version), Green Arrow, 
Aquaman, Blue Beetle (the Jaimie Reyes newest/-current version), and I forget 
what the eighth figure in the set is.
Curiously, despite the fact that the guy on the counter told me that those were 
the first current DC Mcdonald's toy releases, the first three releases (as 
above, Batman, Joker, and Plastic Man), the sealed bags they each came in were 
numbered # 1, # 2, and....# 4 !
Go figure!

Phil

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From: fdurso@comcast.net <fdurso@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:22 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      ha! 


I got suckered into going to McDonald's today by my son and his buddy (both 7)
I thought if this email and said "okay" and scretly hoped that they'd get Blue 
Beetle...
Frank "instead they got the Joker...." D'U!

    
    

    
    






  







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Since you have the full set, would you please refresh Phil's memory of the=
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characters included?
Thanks,
Darci




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From: R S <xanadude28@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com; charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:34:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

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The Secret: Ask the manager for a "customer appreciation pack" for the full=
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set. They have all eight of the current toy line available, you just pay fo=
r=20
the cost of the toy without having to buy any food, and you get all eight a=
t=20
once without having to go back each week. I scored a full set the Friday th=
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were released for the about 8 bucks plus the cost of the mocha frappe I bou=
ght.

The Blue Beetle is definitely cool - actually in scale with the JLU lines a=
nd=20
has a neat action feature.=20

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com; charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 8:44:42 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

The Mcdonald's I went to, they only had The Joker, Plastic Man and Batman, =
which=20

they said are the first three releases. I bought all three.
There's eight in the entire set, as they had a sealed (under plexiglass) di=
splay=20

of all eight figures. Just prior to that, there was a Marvel version, with =
eight=20

different Marvel characters.
I didn't buy those, but for those curious, they were: The Thing, The Hulk,=
=20
Wolverine, Spiderman, Silver Surfer, and I forget the other three. I do rec=
all=20
that there were eight in that set, also, however.

The current DC Batman: Brave And The Bold set, based on the new animated se=
ries=20
of the same name, the others are Batmobile (a new version), Green Arrow,=20
Aquaman, Blue Beetle (the Jaimie Reyes newest/-current version), and I forg=
et=20
what the eighth figure in the set is.
Curiously, despite the fact that the guy on the counter told me that those =
were=20
the first current DC Mcdonald's toy releases, the first three releases (as=
=20
above, Batman, Joker, and Plastic Man), the sealed bags they each came in w=
ere=20
numbered # 1, # 2, and....# 4 !
Go figure!

Phil

--- On Tue, 8/24/10, fdurso@comcast.net <fdurso@comcast.net> wrote:

From: fdurso@comcast.net <fdurso@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:22 PM

ha!=20

I got suckered into going to McDonald's today by my son and his buddy (both=
 7)
I thought if this email and said "okay" and scretly hoped that they'd get B=
lue=20
Beetle...
Frank "instead they got the Joker...." D'U!

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Link to the site with all the toys and demonstrations of their action featu=
res:

http://www.happymeal.com/en_US/#

Batman
Joker
Aquaman
Plastic Man
Blue Beetle
Green Arrow
Black Manta ship (this is actually a really really cool toy)
Batmobile




--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
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> Since you have the full set, would you please refresh Phil's memory of th=
e=20
> characters included?
> Thanks,
> Darci
>=20
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> ________________________________
> From: R S <xanadude28@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com; charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:34:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> The Secret: Ask the manager for a "customer appreciation pack" for the fu=
ll=20
> set. They have all eight of the current toy line available, you just pay =
for=20
> the cost of the toy without having to buy any food, and you get all eight=
 at=20
> once without having to go back each week. I scored a full set the Friday =
they=20
> were released for the about 8 bucks plus the cost of the mocha frappe I b=
ought.
>=20
> The Blue Beetle is definitely cool - actually in scale with the JLU lines=
 and=20
> has a neat action feature.=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...>
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com; charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 8:44:42 PM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
>=20
> The Mcdonald's I went to, they only had The Joker, Plastic Man and Batman=
, which=20
>=20
> they said are the first three releases. I bought all three.
> There's eight in the entire set, as they had a sealed (under plexiglass) =
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> of all eight figures. Just prior to that, there was a Marvel version, wit=
h eight=20
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> different Marvel characters.
> I didn't buy those, but for those curious, they were: The Thing, The Hulk=
,=20
> Wolverine, Spiderman, Silver Surfer, and I forget the other three. I do r=
ecall=20
> that there were eight in that set, also, however.
>=20
> The current DC Batman: Brave And The Bold set, based on the new animated =
series=20
> of the same name, the others are Batmobile (a new version), Green Arrow,=
=20
> Aquaman, Blue Beetle (the Jaimie Reyes newest/-current version), and I fo=
rget=20
> what the eighth figure in the set is.
> Curiously, despite the fact that the guy on the counter told me that thos=
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> the first current DC Mcdonald's toy releases, the first three releases (a=
s=20
> above, Batman, Joker, and Plastic Man), the sealed bags they each came in=
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> numbered # 1, # 2, and....# 4 !
> Go figure!
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Tue, 8/24/10, fdurso@... <fdurso@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: fdurso@... <fdurso@...>
> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:22 PM
>=20
> ha!=20
>=20
> I got suckered into going to McDonald's today by my son and his buddy (bo=
th 7)
> I thought if this email and said "okay" and scretly hoped that they'd get=
 Blue=20
> Beetle...
> Frank "instead they got the Joker...." D'U!
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thank you, Ray!

Phil

--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Ray <xanadude28@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ray <xanadude28@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 6:18 PM







=C2=A0



=20=20


=20=20=20=20
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      Link to the site with all the toys and demonstrations of their action=
 features:



http://www.happymeal.com/en_US/#



Batman

Joker

Aquaman

Plastic Man

Blue Beetle

Green Arrow

Black Manta ship (this is actually a really really cool toy)

Batmobile



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:

>

> Since you have the full set, would you please refresh Phil's memory of th=
e=20

> characters included?

> Thanks,

> Darci

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> ________________________________

> From: R S <xanadude28@...>

> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com; charlton-l@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:34:29 PM

> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

>=20

> =C3=82=C2=A0=20

> The Secret: Ask the manager for a "customer appreciation pack" for the fu=
ll=20

> set. They have all eight of the current toy line available, you just pay =
for=20

> the cost of the toy without having to buy any food, and you get all eight=
 at=20

> once without having to go back each week. I scored a full set the Friday =
they=20

> were released for the about 8 bucks plus the cost of the mocha frappe I b=
ought.

>=20

> The Blue Beetle is definitely cool - actually in scale with the JLU lines=
 and=20

> has a neat action feature.=20

>=20

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...>

> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com; charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 8:44:42 PM

> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

>=20

> The Mcdonald's I went to, they only had The Joker, Plastic Man and Batman=
, which=20

>=20

> they said are the first three releases. I bought all three.

> There's eight in the entire set, as they had a sealed (under plexiglass) =
display=20

>=20

> of all eight figures. Just prior to that, there was a Marvel version, wit=
h eight=20

>=20

> different Marvel characters.

> I didn't buy those, but for those curious, they were: The Thing, The Hulk=
,=20

> Wolverine, Spiderman, Silver Surfer, and I forget the other three. I do r=
ecall=20

> that there were eight in that set, also, however.

>=20

> The current DC Batman: Brave And The Bold set, based on the new animated =
series=20

> of the same name, the others are Batmobile (a new version), Green Arrow,=
=20

> Aquaman, Blue Beetle (the Jaimie Reyes newest/-current version), and I fo=
rget=20

> what the eighth figure in the set is.

> Curiously, despite the fact that the guy on the counter told me that thos=
e were=20

> the first current DC Mcdonald's toy releases, the first three releases (a=
s=20

> above, Batman, Joker, and Plastic Man), the sealed bags they each came in=
 were=20

> numbered # 1, # 2, and....# 4 !

> Go figure!

>=20

> Phil

>=20

> --- On Tue, 8/24/10, fdurso@... <fdurso@...> wrote:

>=20

> From: fdurso@... <fdurso@...>

> Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Blue Beetles McD's

> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com

> Received: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:22 PM

>=20

> ha!=20

>=20

> I got suckered into going to McDonald's today by my son and his buddy (bo=
th 7)

> I thought if this email and said "okay" and scretly hoped that they'd get=
 Blue=20

> Beetle...

> Frank "instead they got the Joker...." D'U!

>=20

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>=20

> ------------------------------------

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> Yahoo! Groups Links

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This last post to the group (below) had a virus!
Who sent it? Thankfully, my PC blocked it. Is this a spammer???

Phil

--- On Sat, 8/28/10, geofffl@yahoo.com <geofffl@yahoo.com> wrote:

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dont open it its not from me and its a virus someone somehow used my email and 
sent it out to some of u


      

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It's deleted now. So hopefully that will be that.=20

Hopefully.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
> This last post to the group (below) had a virus!
> Who sent it? Thankfully, my PC blocked it. Is this a spammer???
>=20
> Phil
>=20
> --- On Sat, 8/28/10, geofffl@... <geofffl@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: geofffl@... <geofffl@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] (unknown)
> To: brianwagner@..., brian34685@..., brownsfan145874@..., bsullivan@..., =
cborg@..., Char.Beth2@..., charkey6@..., CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, =
cheryl.scarlett@..., christian_corner_of_writers_group_2@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 5:06 PM
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From: "docsavage80" <docsavage80@yahoo.com>
Subject: Very interesting that CharlRe: Charlton come up with the phrase "action heroes"?
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Very interesting that Charlton largely spurned having bona fide metahumans,=
 since DC and MVL in the 1950's and 1960's did not introduce in their own f=
eatures or own titles many normal human protagonists. (Let me qualify that =
to exclude the Challengers of the Unknown and various war, western, etc. se=
ries.) Actually, even into the 1970's and later, normal human protagonists =
usually first appeared as supporting characters in other features. Wild Dog=
 serves as an exception, since he debuted in his own limited series.=20

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> They sure did. I believe it was Dick Giordano who coined the=20
> phrase "action heroes" to describe the then new wave of titles like=20
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> He did it to set the line apart from the wildly popular Marvel and DC=20
> lines, and to establish the notion that these heroes were men of=20
> outstanding skill and courage and not so much men of super abilities.=20
> Captain Atom was the only one in the line with real superpowers. The=20
> phrase does not apply to the earlier heroes Dan Garrett-Blue Beetle=20
> and Son of Vulcan.
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> Kaji Dha!
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> Dean
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  What about any chance of downloads of these mags?

  J.A.P.

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> You bet I collect the Charlton ones! 150 New Cartoons, Cartoon Carnival, =
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Hi, all.=A0 Sorry.=A0 It appears that my email address has been compromised=
 and spam has been sent from it.=A0 Someone notified me of this earlier tod=
ay, and I just saw a bunch of them in my spam folder.=A0 Please let me know=
 if this continues.=A0 I may have to shut down this address and open anothe=
r one.


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Does anyone have an e-mail address for Michael Ambrose?  I'll snail mail hi=
m if necessary as I have his address but I'd prefer this way of doing it as=
 it's quicker.


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You can send e-mail to me at: charspot01@austin.rr.com

=3DMike A.

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as it's quicker.
>



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Need to know if there's going to be another issue of Charlton Spotlight.=A0=
 Could not get through to Michael from this computer.=A0 Appreciate any hel=
p I can get from members of the group.


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Haven't heard any news of a new issue in quite a while, although I would ce=
rtainly like to see Spotlight resume publication even if it's just once a y=
ear.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Gerald Wilson <captgerry52@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Gerald Wilson <captgerry52@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton spotlight
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:16 PM


=C2=A0=20



Need to know if there's going to be another issue of Charlton Spotlight.=C2=
=A0 Could not get through to Michael from this computer.=C2=A0 Appreciate a=
ny help I can get from members of the group.

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Rip,
Over at http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D1&t=3D67553 Trevor Gi=
berson noted that cover:  "I'm totally going to order that issue of Thunder=
bolt with the femme fatale on the cover."

I guess he didn't know what Evila did to Professor Karl.  (BTW, other than =
a cameo in #56, this looks to be her sole appearance.)
Thanks,
Darci


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
>
> Rip,
> Re:=A0 "her name spelled backwards is perhaps a bad omen. "
> =A0
> Her name spelled forwards doesn't bode well either.
> Thanks,
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 2:42:05 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Thunderbolt Reports - Special Case #0002
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> The second issue of Thunderbolt is actually numbered #51. It's Volume 3 o=
f the title formerly known as Son of Vulcan which itself had been known for=
 most of its run as Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. That the former title w=
as Son of Vulcan is indicated in the indicia, not always something that hap=
pened. The book is dated March-April 1966. The story and art is by Thunderb=
olt' s creator Pete Morisi at this time operating under the pseudonym P.A.M=
.
>=20
> Special Case Number 0002 from Thunderbolt' s Personal Files is titled "Th=
e Evil that is Evila!". After a one-page reprise of T-Bolt's origin, the st=
ory begins properly in the Himalayas in the lamasery where Peter Cannon was=
 trained. The Hooded One is being chastised and cast out of the lamasery be=
cause of his criminal behavior. As he leaves he reflects how he had origina=
lly earned the right to study the Ancient Scrolls for an act of heroism whe=
re he carried an unexploded bomb from a crashed aircraft away. He was sever=
ely injured, losing part of his face which is the reason he hides it behind=
 the hood. He also indicates that he had begun some limited study of the An=
cient Scrolls before Cannon supplanted him. The Hooded One returns to his I=
ce Cave, a weird place filled with frozen dinosaurs in the bowels of an ext=
inct volcano. There he plots and plans to revive the Princess Evila, sorcer=
ess of the Nile.
>=20
> Meanwhile at a museum far away Professor Henry Karl has called in two exp=
erts to help him to identify a sarcophagus recently uncovered in Luxor. The=
 two experts are Peter Cannon and Dan Garrett (also known as the Blue Beetl=
e). They identify the inhabitant of the sarcophagus as Princess Evila. Afte=
r they leave Karl is overcome by a mental attack from the Hooded One who st=
eals his will. He orders Karl to use a rare poition in a vial in the sarcop=
hagus to revive Princess Evila. The black-haired beauty does indeed revive =
and she takes over the mind of Karl herself and they disappear. Peter Canno=
n and Tabu read of this odd occurrence and plan to call the police to inqui=
re.
>=20
> The story is interrupted at this point by a one-page text piece titled "P=
hysalia Physalis" which tells the story of giant twenty-foot Portuguese Man=
-of-War which threaten an island. The threat is forestalled by killing the =
vegetation which has triggered the monsters.
>=20
> In a boxing bout Peter and Tabu debate what they should do. They realize =
that the Hooded One might be involved given his access to the Ancient Scrol=
ls. Meanwhile Evila has assembled a small army of thugs and criminals and t=
hey begin a massive crime wave. Peter Cannon is reluctant to leave his recl=
usive life to fight, but ultimately is convinced by Tabu and Thunderbolt ru=
ns into the fray though the mansion's secret passageways. Heading into the =
city T-Bolt finds plenty of criminal activity and using his physical skills=
 puts some of it down. But one thug escapes and he follows finding Princess=
 Evila's lair where he sees her take the thug who has just returned and ste=
al his mind. Thunderbolt tears into the mob of criminals and fights using h=
is skills to the utmost. Chasing Evila he pursues her through many traps in=
cluding "Darts of Death", "Spears of Flame", and "Daggers of Doom". Confron=
ting her, she hits a switch releasing a hidden panel that drops T-Bolt
>  into the water below where he is confronted with a crocodile. He subdues=
 the crocodile and swims back to confront Evila again. They lock eyes and w=
ills but it is Thunderbolt who ultimately wins, breaking Evila who ages dra=
matically and becomes again a mere mummy.
>=20
> Finding Professor Karl, the two men take the mummy and leave just as a bo=
mb destroys the hidden headquarters. The newspapers the next day trumpet Th=
underbolt' s victory. In his Ice Cave the Hooded One vows to threaten Thund=
erbolt again. At the mansion Peter and Tabu discuss the case and speculate =
whether Evila will ever return and Tabu points out that her name spelled ba=
ckwards is perhaps a bad omen. The final panel is a question mark.
>=20
> "The Atmosphere" is a three-page piece by Bill Fracchio and Tony Tallaric=
o on the wonders of the Earth's atmosphere and man's limited efforts to tra=
vel beyond it in jets and spacecraft.
>=20
> This is a solid issue of Thunderbolt, really playing to the strip's stren=
gths of atmosphere and mood. Morisi's artwork is scrumptious, though I will=
 admit his storytelling falls short a time or two. The Hooded One is more p=
roperly established as a nemesis and the modus operandi of T-Bolt is well f=
ixed. I like especially his reluctance to jump into costume. The unwillingn=
ess to leave the relative comfort to fight is an honest and natural feeling=
, though not something often explored in superhero comics. Peter just wants=
 a quiet life, and that's something I can identify with all too well.
>=20
> The guest-appearance by Dan Garrett is a good touch, and gives the Charlt=
on heroes a broader sense of place. One thing that is both a strength and a=
 weakness of the Charlton books is their distinctive characters. There is n=
o such thing as a house style at Charlton so the books tend to live in thei=
r own little microverses. There was not much crossover stuff done, but a sm=
all example like this is the kind of mixing I prefer, understated.
>=20
> More to come.
>=20
> Rip Off



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Tom Spurgeon at the Comics Reporter ( http://www.comicsreporter.com ) brought 
this to my attention 
(from http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/10/18/grant-morrison-interview-batman-inc-alan-moore/ ):


Oct 18th 2010 By: Laura Hudson

CA: One of the "Multiversity" projects is going to be "Pax Americana," which 
deals with some of the Charlton Heroes who were originally going to be in Alan 
Moore's "Watchmen." I don't know if you read the Alan Moore interview that came 
out a little while ago, but I feel like you've had a much more positive approach 
to the idea of sort of re-formatting ideas, whereas he has a certain amount of 
pessimism about the comic book industry and the ideas in it. Why do you think 
you guys have such different takes on the way that ideas are being generated or 
re-purposed?

GM: I mean, I couldn't speak for Alan, only what I believe, which is that 
[ideas] are just passing through you... As an example, in one of the stories 
Alan talked about, that he was kind of angry with, was where Geoff Johns had 
used a Green Lantern story that Alan had done as part of the "Blackest Night" 
story, but no one mentioned the [Alan Moore story] itself was based on the 
previous story by Gardner Fox... So I don't understand why a story that he wrote 
to plug a continuity hole in a Gardner Fox story should be any different from 
the Gardner Fox story. And why shouldn't Geoff be able to use standard 
continuity to build the culture of the DC Universe? I don't want to get into a 
fight with Alan; I just don't think any of us have ownership of these things, 
that they belong to the DC Universe, and if you add to it you should expect it 
to be part of that, and for it to be used again after you have left it. 

CA: Right -- 

GM: What do you think? 

CA: Well, I think it's partly the nature of comics, and even beyond that I think 
it's part of the nature of stories, that elements from one story are going to 
bleed their way into the next. There are some core archetypes and themes at the 
heart of most stories, and I don't think there's any way to get away from that. 
And I don't think there's any reason to try to get away from that. Obviously 
it's great to bring in fresh ideas and do things in new ways, but comics is 
something that has a rich, interwoven history, and it seems silly to ignore 
that. I think you using Lord Death Man the way you did was a fantastic example 
of that. 

GM: But it's easy; all you have to do is refresh things. I can see why it might 
be wrong to go back and completely copy a story or re-use a style without any 
energy or without any love, but we should take the elements of a story and 
re-tool them... That's what Alan's doing with "League of Extraordinary 
Gentlemen" and that idea of this fictional landscape that you can find in other 
people's ideas and characters, and you can do that in the DC or Marvel universes 
too. 


CA: In approaching "Pax Americana," are you heading going out in a profoundly 
different direction than "Watchmen"? 

GM: Oh, completely. The idea was to take the Charlton characters and put them in 
a completely different and kind of take the ideas of "Watchmen," these sort of 
architectural constructions, these formal ideas and apply them to a completely 
new story. It's not a murder mystery; it's a completely different kind of 
mystery that takes place today, in a world not of the Cold War, but of 
international terror and conspiracy, and involving a bunch of superheroes. What 
took were those really complex and crystalline story techniques and tried to 
create new versions of all those Alan Moore transitions, the little visual cues 
and thematic cues... and the thematic idea of a comic within a comic. So yeah, 
it's a new story told using updated versions of "Watchmen" techniques, which we 
thought it would be fun to do with the Charlton characters. 








The link to the Alan Moore interview is: 
 http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/09/alan-moore-speaks-watchmen-2-to-adi-tantimedh/



      

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I have been exchanging emails with Mike Ambrose the editor and publisher of
of Charlton Spotlight over the last few days.  He said that Charlton
Spotlight #7 is now in the works and should be available in the Spring of
2011.  It will not go through distribution but will be sold directly by Argo
Press.


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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Sounds good, it's a=C2=A0good magazine.
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I have been exchanging emails with Mike Ambrose the editor and publisher of
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Spotlight #7 is now in the works and should be available in the Spring of
2011. It will not go through distribution but will be sold directly by Argo
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Subject: Dark HorseTo Reprint Boyette's Flash Gordon!
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They've been reprinting them for some time now, but in the spring of next y=
ear we'll get to see the Charlton run featuring the work of Pat Boyette get=
 the hardback reprint treatment.=20

Here's a link:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/17-756/Flash-Gordon-Comic-Book-Archives-Volu=
me-3

Rip Off


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That's great, I've always enjoyed Pat's work.=C2=A0 It was different.
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Dark HorseTo Reprint Boyette's Flash Gordon!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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=C2=A0=20



They've been reprinting them for some time now, but in the spring of next y=
ear we'll get to see the Charlton run featuring the work of Pat Boyette get=
 the hardback reprint treatment.=20

Here's a link:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/17-756/Flash-Gordon-Comic-Book-Archives-Volu=
me-3

Rip Off









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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Looking forward to it.=C2=A0 I have some of the original comic=
s.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have a Great Day!!!
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"




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ear=20
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Have the Rocky Jones stories been reprinted much? I can find evidence that =
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s reprinted at least one of them too.=20

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 I haven't seen anything Rocky Jones in a long time except for =
a DVD with five=20
episodes on it.=C2=A0 I'd be interested in knowing if anything has been rep=
rinted as=20
well.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have a Great Day!!!
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"




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Have the Rocky Jones stories been reprinted much? I can find evidence that =
AC=20
Comics reprinted one of them, but I seem to have a memory that Avalon has=20
reprinted at least one of them too.=20


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If they have, it doesn't show up in the GCD.  They only list Space Adventur=
es #s=20
15-18, plus two pinups (in Ni-Cola Productions' "Captain Cosmos, Space=20
Starveyer" #4 (March 2006).
I see on AC's site that they reprinted "The Forbidden Frequency" in Men of=
=20
Mystery #19.
Hope this helps,
Darci



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Subject: Jon D'Agostino RIP
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Jon D'Agostino is a name associated with many classic Charlton comics, espe=
cially <i>My Little Margie, Atomic Mouse, Li'l Genius, Go-Go, Atom the Cat,=
 Freddy</i> and my personal fave of his <i>Timmy the Timid Ghost</i>.

Rip Off


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Don't be so modest, Rip.  Folks here should go=20
to http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/2010/11/jon-dagostino-rip.html too.
Thanks,
Darci



________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jon D'Agostino RIP

=20=20
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especially <i>My Little Margie, Atomic Mouse, Li'l Genius, Go-Go, Atom the =
Cat,=20
Freddy</i> and my personal fave of his <i>Timmy the Timid Ghost</i>.

Rip Off


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I "attended" Army Advanced Training with a guy named D'Agostino in 1970.
=A0
One day, outside the gates of Fort Leonard Wood I found a Charlton issue fe=
aturing Rocky Jones - Space Ranger. To my surprise the cover was signed "D'=
Agostino & Giordano." That was a bit earlier than I had=A0known either of t=
hem was in the business.

And I asked Dag, as we called him, if he was related. He wasn't, but was su=
rprised to see his family name on the cover of a comic. Plesently surprised=
.
=A0
I would have like to have met Jon, a dedicated pro.


Jim Anthony Super-Detective Vol. 1
Three wild illustrated prose adventures.

Now on sale at Amazon.com
Sample chapter here.=A0

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:







Don't be so modest, Rip. Folks here should go=20
to http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/2010/11/jon-dagostino-rip.html too.
Thanks,
Darci

________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:49:24 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jon D'Agostino RIP

http://lambiek.net/artists/d/d-agostino_jon.htm">Jon D'Agostino is a name=20
associated with many classic Charlton comics, especially My Little Margie,=
=20
Atomic Mouse, Li'l Genius, Go-Go, Atom the Cat, Freddy and my personal fave=
 of=20
his Timmy the Timid Ghost.=20

Here's a link'>http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2010_11_29.html#019836">l=
ink=20
to Mark Evanier's obituary on the longtime artist.=20

Rip Off


=20=20=20=20=20=20

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 It's always a shame when people produce the things we like pas=
s on.=C2=A0 At least=20
they leave a legacy behind them for future generations to enjoy.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have a Great Day!!!
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"




________________________________
From: Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 10:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Jon D'Agostino RIP

=C2=A0=20
I "attended" Army Advanced Training with a guy named D'Agostino in 1970.
=C2=A0
One day, outside the gates of Fort Leonard Wood I found a Charlton issue=20
featuring Rocky Jones - Space Ranger. To my surprise the cover was signed=20
"D'Agostino & Giordano." That was a bit earlier than I had=C2=A0known eithe=
r of them=20
was in the business.

And I asked Dag, as we called him, if he was related. He wasn't, but was=20
surprised to see his family name on the cover of a comic. Plesently surpris=
ed.
=C2=A0
I would have like to have met Jon, a dedicated pro.

Jim Anthony Super-Detective Vol. 1
Three wild illustrated prose adventures.

Now on sale at Amazon.com
Sample chapter here.=C2=A0

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

Don't be so modest, Rip. Folks here should go=20
to http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/2010/11/jon-dagostino-rip.html too.
Thanks,
Darci

________________________________
From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:49:24 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Jon D'Agostino RIP

http://lambiek.net/artists/d/d-agostino_jon.htm">Jon D'Agostino is a name=20
associated with many classic Charlton comics, especially My Little Margie,=
=20
Atomic Mouse, Li'l Genius, Go-Go, Atom the Cat, Freddy and my personal fave=
 of=20
his Timmy the Timid Ghost.=20

Here's a link'>http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2010_11_29.html#019836">l=
ink=20
to Mark Evanier's obituary on the longtime artist.=20

Rip Off

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----- Forwarded Message ----
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=20=20
Charlton published a ton of comics! To me in 1960 the Charlton sf titles we=
re=20
the coolest.  Maybe it was Ditko.  Maybe it was Joe Gill, but I thought the=
y had=20
DC and that sleazy company with no name beat hands down.
Iggota find me a Space War #9!
=20=20=20=20=20

Bob Hughes

"Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth=
;=20
truth is not beauty; beauty is not love; love is not music.  Music is best.=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 I liked Space Wars, Ghostly Tales, and The Many Ghosts of Dr. =
Graves.=C2=A0=20
Charlton had lots of great anthology titles.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have a Great Day!!!
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"




________________________________
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----- Forwarded Message ----
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Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:05:38 PM
Subject: [DCHistory] December 1960-Chartlon!

Charlton published a ton of comics! To me in 1960 the Charlton sf titles we=
re=20
the coolest. Maybe it was Ditko. Maybe it was Joe Gill, but I thought they =
had=20
DC and that sleazy company with no name beat hands down.
Iggota find me a Space War #9!


Bob Hughes

"Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth=
;=20
truth is not beauty; beauty is not love; love is not music. Music is best."

Frank Zappa- Joe's Garage=20
Act III=20

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Ending Sunday, 1/16/11, I have numerous lots of Charlton ghost titles  
posted on eBay at low prices.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/66butrj

http://tinyurl.com/66butrj

These are from my personal collection, with a focus on issues  
featuring art by Steve Ditko and Tom Sutton, and most are high grade.

Thanks for looking!

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 Heritage Comics will be auctioning off my Billy The Kid #114 Warren
Sattler Cover 1975
<http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=410240&GSub=39132> 
sometime in April. I'm posting on our yahoo group to give a headsup for
those here who collect original art. Chance to own a watercolor cover by
Sattler, 35 yrs old. Auction hasnt started yet so dont have details, the
Heritage website is Heritage Comics
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CharltonBullseye/www.heritagecomics.com> 


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Roy Thomas at Alter Ego is looking for a usable photo of Mr. Giordano pre-1=
970...

If you have or know of such that can be scanned at sufficient resolution to=
 be usable in a cover illustration, let me know (or if you'd like, contact =
Roy direct)... cpg_shadow@comcast.net

Eventual use would result in a credit mention and a comp copy of the magazi=
ne when published...

Thanks!

Stephan Friedt
www.comicspriceguide.com



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Hi, I am selling off 2 pgs orignal art from Flash Godron #14, with Pat
Boyette art. Its thru Heritage Comics in this weeks online auction
ending May 15.    Flash Gordon #14 (1969) pgs 12,13
<http://comics.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=121120&Lot_No=10640> 


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Just wanted to say that I am sorry for the spam emails that went out from t=
his address.=A0 My email was hacked.=A0 I've since changed my password and =
that seems to have fixed the problem.

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Sorry to read that. I just got my computer back and it had to scrubbed comp=
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Rip Off

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Subject: Charlton Action figures I made
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Hi Folks,

Several years ago, when I was in my early 20's, I spent making and painting=
 DC Super Powers figures, repainting them, and adding parts, changing them =
completely, into Charlton Action Heroes. This project I started in about 19=
84. I made the Ditko Blue Beetle, complete with holster and gun; the gun co=
uld be removed from his hand and placed in the belt holster, which then sea=
led, with a snap.
I also made Judomaster, Tiger, Captain Atom, Peacemaker, and Peter Cannon -=
-- Thunderbolt.

I have photos of all these. I will dig them up in the next week, and post t=
hose photos!

Phil Latter


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Subject: Question about CPL - Contemporary Pictorial Literature
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Folks,

I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pictor=
ial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it, wh=
ich is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9/-10=
, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', despi=
te the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripter.

These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a compl=
ete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6,7,8=
,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern, wor=
ked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, based on=
 my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and someon=
e recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illustra=
tion that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13. Thi=
s fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I informed h=
im that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.

I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, ever =
published CPL # 13 still exists-?

There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular colum=
n on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That's ho=
w I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.

Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of 'CPL'=
, with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but he co=
uld NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies of =
any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.

MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really lik=
e to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for them. M=
ost fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, since=
 # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from the =
early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to collec=
t them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a complet=
e CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege, ev=
en if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.

Can anyone help me with this question???

Thanks!

Phil Latter


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Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Question about CPL - Contemporary Pictorial Literature
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Jay,
=C2=A0
I had two copies of CPL # 7, but I sold one a few months ago. I currently h=
ave 2 copies of CPL # 8. Like I said, these are extremely rare.=20
Would you like to make me an offer of either $$ or a trade, for # 8?
Oops, I just now noticed --- you DO have CPL # 8.
=C2=A0
Is anyone else reading this interested in my extra, rare copy of CPL # 8?
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Phil Latter
--- On Sun, 7/3/11, Jay Williams <musicitycomicollector@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jay Williams <musicitycomicollector@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Question about CPL - Contemporary Pictorial=
 Literature
To: chromium_foil@yahoo.ca
Received: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 6:11 PM


Phil,

I too have been trying to collect CPL issues.=C2=A0 I have 8, 9/10, 11 & 12=
.=C2=A0 All of which I have purchased off eBay.=C2=A0 Neither Mile High or =
Lone Star ever gets these.=C2=A0 If you ever run across extra issues of 1-7=
 let me know.=C2=A0 If I run across 1-5 I will let you know.

Jay Williams
musicitycomicollector@gmail.com
Franklin, TN USA


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM, CHROMIUMFOIL <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote=
:


=C2=A0=20



Folks,

I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pictor=
ial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it, wh=
ich is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9/-10=
, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', despi=
te the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripter.

These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a compl=
ete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6,7,8=
,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern, wor=
ked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, based on=
 my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and someon=
e recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illustra=
tion that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13. Thi=
s fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I informed h=
im that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.

I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, ever =
published CPL # 13 still exists-?

There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular colum=
n on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That's ho=
w I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.

Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of 'CPL'=
, with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but he co=
uld NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies of =
any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.

MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really lik=
e to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for them. M=
ost fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, since=
 # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from the =
early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to collec=
t them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a complet=
e CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege, ev=
en if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.

Can anyone help me with this question???

Thanks!

Phil Latter





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Have you checked with Bill Schelly?
He may have copies that can be copied...
His website appears to be offline, but you can contact him through Roy Thom=
as and Alter Ego at TwoMorrows...
I'll check my file cabinet when I get some time, but I don't believe I have=
 the real early ones...

Stephan Friedt
Senior Administrator=20
www.comicspriceguide.com


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "CHROMIUMFOIL" <chromium_foil@...>=
 wrote:
>
> Folks,
>=20
> I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pict=
orial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it, =
which is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9/-=
10, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', des=
pite the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripter.
>=20
> These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a com=
plete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6,7=
,8,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern, w=
orked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, based =
on my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and some=
one recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illust=
ration that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13. T=
his fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I informed=
 him that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
> I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.
>=20
> I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, eve=
r published CPL # 13 still exists-?
>=20
> There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular col=
umn on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That's =
how I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.
>=20
> Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of 'CP=
L', with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
> Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but he =
could NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies o=
f any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.
>=20
> MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really l=
ike to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for them.=
 Most fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, sin=
ce # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from th=
e early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to coll=
ect them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a compl=
ete CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege, =
even if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.
>=20
> Can anyone help me with this question???
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> Phil Latter
>



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I have an excellent photocopy of it that I would be willing to copy, for th=
e cost of copying and mailing.  The best thing about it is that it features=
 the unpublished sixth issue of BLUE BEETLE by Ditko.

Just let me know.

Dana Andra
Albany, CA
danaandra12@yahoo.com



--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "cpg_shadow" <cpg_shadow@...> wrot=
e:
>
> Have you checked with Bill Schelly?
> He may have copies that can be copied...
> His website appears to be offline, but you can contact him through Roy Th=
omas and Alter Ego at TwoMorrows...
> I'll check my file cabinet when I get some time, but I don't believe I ha=
ve the real early ones...
>=20
> Stephan Friedt
> Senior Administrator=20
> www.comicspriceguide.com
>=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "CHROMIUMFOIL" <chromium_foil@> =
wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >=20
> > I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pi=
ctorial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it=
, which is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9=
/-10, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', d=
espite the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripte=
r.
> >=20
> > These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a c=
omplete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6=
,7,8,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern,=
 worked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, base=
d on my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and so=
meone recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illu=
stration that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13.=
 This fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I inform=
ed him that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
> > I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.
> >=20
> > I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, e=
ver published CPL # 13 still exists-?
> >=20
> > There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular c=
olumn on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That'=
s how I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.
> >=20
> > Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of '=
CPL', with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
> > Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but h=
e could NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies=
 of any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.
> >=20
> > MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really=
 like to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for the=
m. Most fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, s=
ince # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from =
the early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to co=
llect them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a com=
plete CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege=
, even if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.
> >=20
> > Can anyone help me with this question???
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> >=20
> > Phil Latter
> >
>



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Thank you, Stephen! I'll do that!
=C2=A0
Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

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From: cpg_shadow <cpg_shadow@comcast.net>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Question about CPL - Contemporary Pictorial=
 Literature
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, July 4, 2011, 10:49 AM


=C2=A0=20



Have you checked with Bill Schelly?
He may have copies that can be copied...
His website appears to be offline, but you can contact him through Roy Thom=
as and Alter Ego at TwoMorrows...
I'll check my file cabinet when I get some time, but I don't believe I have=
 the real early ones...

Stephan Friedt
Senior Administrator=20
www.comicspriceguide.com

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "CHROMIUMFOIL" <chromium_foil@...>=
 wrote:
>
> Folks,
>=20
> I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pict=
orial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it, =
which is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9/-=
10, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', des=
pite the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripter.
>=20
> These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a com=
plete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6,7=
,8,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern, w=
orked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, based =
on my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and some=
one recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illust=
ration that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13. T=
his fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I informed=
 him that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
> I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.
>=20
> I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, eve=
r published CPL # 13 still exists-?
>=20
> There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular col=
umn on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That's =
how I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.
>=20
> Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of 'CP=
L', with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
> Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but he =
could NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies o=
f any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.
>=20
> MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really l=
ike to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for them.=
 Most fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, sin=
ce # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from th=
e early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to coll=
ect them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a compl=
ete CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege, =
even if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.
>=20
> Can anyone help me with this question???
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> Phil Latter
>








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Dana,

Thank you, but I think you misread my post, below. I actually have CPL # 6,=
 7,8,9/-10 double issue also known as 'The Charlton Portfolio' containing t=
he otherwise never published Blue Beetle # 6, and also I have CPL # 11 and =
# 12, which was the final issue.
=C2=A0
What I DO need copies of are CPL # 1,2,3,4,5.
=C2=A0
And, I'd pay for copies of them, plus shipping $$.
As well as being very, very grateful.
=C2=A0
I understand from Bob Layton, who ran CPL fanzine with Roger Stern, that # =
1 through # 4 were not fanzines but rather, comics back issue catalogues. I=
 need to know the TITLES of these four catalogues, as I could use that info=
 to try to locate copies for my collection, so as to complete my 'CPL' zine=
 collection.
=C2=A0
Does anyone know the titles of # 1 through # 4 ?
And, does anyone have copies of any of the issues from # 1 through # 5 ?
# 5, apparently, was the first issue with the title of CPL.
=C2=A0
Thanks,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter

--- On Sun, 7/10/11, danaandra12 <danaandra12@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: danaandra12 <danaandra12@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Question about CPL - Contemporary Pictorial=
 Literature
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 11:30 AM


=C2=A0=20



I have an excellent photocopy of it that I would be willing to copy, for th=
e cost of copying and mailing. The best thing about it is that it features =
the unpublished sixth issue of BLUE BEETLE by Ditko.

Just let me know.

Dana Andra
Albany, CA
danaandra12@yahoo.com

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "cpg_shadow" <cpg_shadow@...> wrot=
e:
>
> Have you checked with Bill Schelly?
> He may have copies that can be copied...
> His website appears to be offline, but you can contact him through Roy Th=
omas and Alter Ego at TwoMorrows...
> I'll check my file cabinet when I get some time, but I don't believe I ha=
ve the real early ones...
>=20
> Stephan Friedt
> Senior Administrator=20
> www.comicspriceguide.com
>=20
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "CHROMIUMFOIL" <chromium_foil@> =
wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >=20
> > I collect the rare 1970's fanzine CPL, which stands for Contemporary Pi=
ctorial Literature. There was at least one Charlton superheroes issue of it=
, which is the only double issue of this rare fanzine, CPL double issue # 9=
/-10, which is often, more often referred to as 'The Charlton Portfolio', d=
espite the fact that CPL double issue # 9/-# 10 is a more correct descripte=
r.
> >=20
> > These CPL zines are rarer than hen's teeth! I've been trying to put a c=
omplete set of these together for at least two decades. To date, I have # 6=
,7,8,9/10 double issue, # 11, and # 12. Bob Layton, along with Roger Stern,=
 worked on these zines in the very early 1970's, recently informed me, base=
d on my query, that # 12 was the final CPL isssue. # 13 was planned, and so=
meone recently scanned and emailed me the large John Byrne Doctor Doom illu=
stration that had been planned for the ill-fated, never-published CPL # 13.=
 This fan bought that original Doctor Doom art by Byrne, recently. I inform=
ed him that the art was slated for # 13, but never published.=20
> > I'm still looking for CPL # 1 through # 5.
> >=20
> > I'm also wondering if the planned contents for the planned but never, e=
ver published CPL # 13 still exists-?
> >=20
> > There is a blurb in CPL # 12 that indicates that John Byrne's regular c=
olumn on comics, that # 13's Byrne column would be about Doctor Doom. That'=
s how I knew what issue this Doc Doom art was slated for.
> >=20
> > Bob Layton, on Facebook recently, informed me that the first issue of '=
CPL', with that particular title, was actually # 5.=20
> > Previous to that issue, CPL was just a comics ordering catalogue, but h=
e could NOT remember the titles of # 1 through # 4. He no longer has copies=
 of any issues, so he cannot look up the answer to that question of mine.
> >=20
> > MY question is, does anyone know the answer to this? I'd really, really=
 like to know!!! This way, I could ask dealers to be on the lookout for the=
m. Most fans, probably wouldn't be interested in # 1 through # 4, anyway, s=
ince # 1 through # 4 are merely outdated comics back order catalogues from =
the early 1970's, with no fanzine type contents at all. But, I'd like to co=
llect them, or scanned photocopies of them, so that I can end up with a com=
plete CPL fanzine collection. And, I'm willing to pay $$$ for the privilege=
, even if I'm just receiving photocopies of the originals.
> >=20
> > Can anyone help me with this question???
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> >=20
> > Phil Latter
> >
>








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What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comics.=
 I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Staton =
and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.

Anyone know more details?

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I cannot find out details about the contents, but given that it's the work =
of both Cuti and Staton, it must be the Charlton material.=20

I did find a poster image  (see group picture), which is also the cover to =
the volume. But no details alas.=20

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 I haven't heard anything but i'll check some stuff out and see=
 if I can pick up some info.
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"



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What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comics.=
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Rip Off


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It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if it =
is a reprint volume.=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not all of t=
hem were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comics.=
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and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.

Anyone know more details?

Rip Off




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[image: First Comics logo]
** <http://www.digitalspy.com/companies/first-comics/>

This relaunch seems to be headed by *Ken F. Levin*, a lawyer and agent who
currently reps people like *Bill Willingham*, *Max Allan Collins* and *Gart=
h
Ennis,* but was the co-founder of First, along with *Mike Gold. *
**

Although it was First Comics co-founder and director Ken F. Levin who
presided over the events, Young started the panel. With as much enthusiasm
as fans in Hall H downstairs have for movies, Young proclaimed his love for
First Comics,. When he heard that Levin planned to reopen First and publish
books again, he told the audience he asked who he had to kill to get
involved. He is now First's director of publication.

Levin then took the microphone, giving a short history of the company as an
introduction for the audience, though with the knowledgeable crowd, it was
probably more of a refresher. Perhaps ten years ago, he said, there might
not have been a need for an entity like First Comics, but in the early '80s=
,
when the market was dominated by comics starring company-owned superheroes,
the world of independent comics was a wasteland. First began with everythin=
g
*but* superheroes, not to disparage the superhero comics that Marvel and DC
were doing, but because there was no sense in doing superhero comics if the=
y
were being done so well elsewhere. It was never the intention, Levin said,
to compete with other indie comics, but to add more options for creators wh=
o
were interested in releasing material they owned.

Levin introduced the panel gradually, stating their name and function with
the company and letting them speak fully about their upcoming projects and
their experience so far with the revitalized publisher. He was often
overcome into speechlessness with awe at the assembled talent with him on
stage.

The first creator introduced has produced First's most recent and perhaps
most visible book, "Necessary Monsters." The book's writer, Daniel Merlin
Goodbrey, described the project as featuring classic monsters going on
suicide missions, "a spy monster movie."

At this point it was noted that Levin, also an agent to comics creators and
an executive producer of a number of Hollywood movies, is developing many o=
f
these properties to be made into feature films, including "Necessary
Monsters."

Levin went on to introduce perhaps the two biggest names working with the
new First, beginning with Bill Willingham, creator and writer of the
enormously popular "Fables" for
Vertigo<http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=3Darticle&id=3D33508>.
Willingham's very first work was published by First, a Valeria the Insect
Queen back-up story that he drew for First's flagship title "Warp." It is
this early work that connects Willingham to the new First, as the publisher
plans to re-release the material in a collection. Willingham jokingly
exclaimed that this was only done to embarrass him, but he has agreed to le=
t
the material be released if the profits from the book are given to charity.
There have also been discussions about him doing further work for First.

ystery novelist Max Allan Collins was the next big name to be introduced.
Collins had written the graphic novel on which the film "Road to Perdition"
was based. The fact that "Perdition" was a graphic novel made into a movie
with no superheroes in sight changed how comic book movies were perceived
and accepted. Collins' First connection comes by way of "The P.I.s," a
crossover starring Collins' popular creation, Ms. Tree, and detective Mike
Mauser. Collins attended the panel to announce that there are plans for
First to produce a complete collection of Ms. Tree stories as well as a new
graphic novel with Collins' collaborator, artist Terry Beatty.

Levin continued his introductions, citing "E-Man," another series that Firs=
t
had published and will now be producing again with plans to issue a complet=
e
collection of "E-Man," overseen by its creators, writer Nick Cuti and artis=
t
Joe Staton, who were present at the panel. Alex Wald, First Comics' origina=
l
and current art director, recolored the entire book.

Copies of "Unnecessary Monsters" and "E-Man: The Early Years" were availabl=
e
at the convention in limited quantities with plans for a wide-release in
October or November. Also present in the initial CCI offering was "Frickin'
Butt-Kickin' Zombie Ants," written by Steve Stern, who was also present on
stage, and drawn by the Fillbach Brothers, a cowboy hat-wearing pair who
were seated in the audience.

he fourth title available at the convention was "Zen: Intergalactic Ninja 3=
D
Convention Special," written by creators Stern and Dan Cote, who were also
present at the panel. The issue uses revolutionary 3D methods, as well as
traditional ones, to be viewed in the comic with the included red-and-blue
lensed glasses. QR codes appear throughout the story, allowing readers to
scan them with a smartphone and see animated 3D images. At this point, Levi=
n
introduced Brian Mullins, founder of Daqri and QR director. Mullins was
involved with the creation of the innovative 3D for the comic and, being a
comics fan, hopes to be involved with expanding the concept of augmented
reality into comics, including a graphic novel told completely with these
images, another future project for First.

Susannah Carson, editor of "A Truth Universally Acknowledged: 33 Writers on
Why We Read Jane Austen," was introduced as First Comics' YA editor,
proclaiming the company's intention to publish material for young adults.

Levin also acknowledged Christian Gossett and Tom Zahler, who were in the
audience. Gossett, creator of "The Red Star," has been talking to First
about a new project, as well as helping to the publisher import foreign
comics to the United States. Zahler, creator, writer and artist of "Love an=
d
Capes," will do some design work for the company.

The panel was clearly pressed for time and First Comics is so overflowing
with planned material that Levin was unable to mention "Four Norsemen of th=
e
Apocalypse," a graphic novel written by "Jack of Fables" and "House of
Mystery" writer Matt Sturges and drawn by John Lucas. Also not mentioned at
the panel was a new, currently-untitled graphic novel by Goodbrey, to be
released in the spring of next year.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, john Lewis <creatureproductions@yahoo.com>w=
rote:

> **
>
>
>      Hello:
>    I haven't heard anything but i'll check some stuff out and see if I ca=
n
> pick up some info.
>    Have a Great Day!!!
>    The "Creature"
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:35 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man Reprint From First?
>
>
>
> What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comic=
s.
> I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Staton
> and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.
>
> Anyone know more details?
>
> Rip Off
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I'd imagine that if this initial volume sells at all, the later First mater=
ial will follow. I agree it's inferior to the excellent stuff from Charlton=
. Pasko was not the right choice at all. The issues have merit, they just a=
ren't ideal.=20

Joe and Nick are the masters of the E-Man universe for sure.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
>
> It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if i=
t is a reprint volume.=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not all of=
 them were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:35 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man Reprint From First?
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comic=
s. I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Stato=
n and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.
>=20
> Anyone know more details?
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Thanks. This is good info.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Jay Williams <musicitycomicollecto=
r@...> wrote:
>
> [image: First Comics logo]
> ** <http://www.digitalspy.com/companies/first-comics/>
>=20
> This relaunch seems to be headed by *Ken F. Levin*, a lawyer and agent wh=
o
> currently reps people like *Bill Willingham*, *Max Allan Collins* and *Ga=
rth
> Ennis,* but was the co-founder of First, along with *Mike Gold. *
> **
>=20
> Although it was First Comics co-founder and director Ken F. Levin who
> presided over the events, Young started the panel. With as much enthusias=
m
> as fans in Hall H downstairs have for movies, Young proclaimed his love f=
or
> First Comics,. When he heard that Levin planned to reopen First and publi=
sh
> books again, he told the audience he asked who he had to kill to get
> involved. He is now First's director of publication.
>=20
> Levin then took the microphone, giving a short history of the company as =
an
> introduction for the audience, though with the knowledgeable crowd, it wa=
s
> probably more of a refresher. Perhaps ten years ago, he said, there might
> not have been a need for an entity like First Comics, but in the early '8=
0s,
> when the market was dominated by comics starring company-owned superheroe=
s,
> the world of independent comics was a wasteland. First began with everyth=
ing
> *but* superheroes, not to disparage the superhero comics that Marvel and =
DC
> were doing, but because there was no sense in doing superhero comics if t=
hey
> were being done so well elsewhere. It was never the intention, Levin said=
,
> to compete with other indie comics, but to add more options for creators =
who
> were interested in releasing material they owned.
>=20
> Levin introduced the panel gradually, stating their name and function wit=
h
> the company and letting them speak fully about their upcoming projects an=
d
> their experience so far with the revitalized publisher. He was often
> overcome into speechlessness with awe at the assembled talent with him on
> stage.
>=20
> The first creator introduced has produced First's most recent and perhaps
> most visible book, "Necessary Monsters." The book's writer, Daniel Merlin
> Goodbrey, described the project as featuring classic monsters going on
> suicide missions, "a spy monster movie."
>=20
> At this point it was noted that Levin, also an agent to comics creators a=
nd
> an executive producer of a number of Hollywood movies, is developing many=
 of
> these properties to be made into feature films, including "Necessary
> Monsters."
>=20
> Levin went on to introduce perhaps the two biggest names working with the
> new First, beginning with Bill Willingham, creator and writer of the
> enormously popular "Fables" for
> Vertigo<http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=3Darticle&id=3D33508>.
> Willingham's very first work was published by First, a Valeria the Insect
> Queen back-up story that he drew for First's flagship title "Warp." It is
> this early work that connects Willingham to the new First, as the publish=
er
> plans to re-release the material in a collection. Willingham jokingly
> exclaimed that this was only done to embarrass him, but he has agreed to =
let
> the material be released if the profits from the book are given to charit=
y.
> There have also been discussions about him doing further work for First.
>=20
> ystery novelist Max Allan Collins was the next big name to be introduced.
> Collins had written the graphic novel on which the film "Road to Perditio=
n"
> was based. The fact that "Perdition" was a graphic novel made into a movi=
e
> with no superheroes in sight changed how comic book movies were perceived
> and accepted. Collins' First connection comes by way of "The P.I.s," a
> crossover starring Collins' popular creation, Ms. Tree, and detective Mik=
e
> Mauser. Collins attended the panel to announce that there are plans for
> First to produce a complete collection of Ms. Tree stories as well as a n=
ew
> graphic novel with Collins' collaborator, artist Terry Beatty.
>=20
> Levin continued his introductions, citing "E-Man," another series that Fi=
rst
> had published and will now be producing again with plans to issue a compl=
ete
> collection of "E-Man," overseen by its creators, writer Nick Cuti and art=
ist
> Joe Staton, who were present at the panel. Alex Wald, First Comics' origi=
nal
> and current art director, recolored the entire book.
>=20
> Copies of "Unnecessary Monsters" and "E-Man: The Early Years" were availa=
ble
> at the convention in limited quantities with plans for a wide-release in
> October or November. Also present in the initial CCI offering was "Fricki=
n'
> Butt-Kickin' Zombie Ants," written by Steve Stern, who was also present o=
n
> stage, and drawn by the Fillbach Brothers, a cowboy hat-wearing pair who
> were seated in the audience.
>=20
> he fourth title available at the convention was "Zen: Intergalactic Ninja=
 3D
> Convention Special," written by creators Stern and Dan Cote, who were als=
o
> present at the panel. The issue uses revolutionary 3D methods, as well as
> traditional ones, to be viewed in the comic with the included red-and-blu=
e
> lensed glasses. QR codes appear throughout the story, allowing readers to
> scan them with a smartphone and see animated 3D images. At this point, Le=
vin
> introduced Brian Mullins, founder of Daqri and QR director. Mullins was
> involved with the creation of the innovative 3D for the comic and, being =
a
> comics fan, hopes to be involved with expanding the concept of augmented
> reality into comics, including a graphic novel told completely with these
> images, another future project for First.
>=20
> Susannah Carson, editor of "A Truth Universally Acknowledged: 33 Writers =
on
> Why We Read Jane Austen," was introduced as First Comics' YA editor,
> proclaiming the company's intention to publish material for young adults.
>=20
> Levin also acknowledged Christian Gossett and Tom Zahler, who were in the
> audience. Gossett, creator of "The Red Star," has been talking to First
> about a new project, as well as helping to the publisher import foreign
> comics to the United States. Zahler, creator, writer and artist of "Love =
and
> Capes," will do some design work for the company.
>=20
> The panel was clearly pressed for time and First Comics is so overflowing
> with planned material that Levin was unable to mention "Four Norsemen of =
the
> Apocalypse," a graphic novel written by "Jack of Fables" and "House of
> Mystery" writer Matt Sturges and drawn by John Lucas. Also not mentioned =
at
> the panel was a new, currently-untitled graphic novel by Goodbrey, to be
> released in the spring of next year.
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, john Lewis <creatureproductions@...>wrote=
:
>=20
> > **
> >
> >
> >      Hello:
> >    I haven't heard anything but i'll check some stuff out and see if I =
can
> > pick up some info.
> >    Have a Great Day!!!
> >    The "Creature"
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:35 AM
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man Reprint From First?
> >
> >
> >
> > What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Com=
ics.
> > I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Stat=
on
> > and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material=
.
> >
> > Anyone know more details?
> >
> > Rip Off
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So is this reprint volume going to be the Charlton E-Man stories, or someth=
ing later?=C2=A0I totally agree that Nick Cuti brought a lot to the table a=
s a writer.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Bruce Buchanan

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=C2=A0=20
It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if it =
is a reprint volume.=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not all of t=
hem were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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=C2=A0=20
What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comics.=
 I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Staton =
and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.

Anyone know more details?

Rip Off

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It's going to be Charlton material. How much, and if it will include Mauser=
 stories, I don't know. Given the cover, I'd reckon not.=20

Rip Off

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> So is this reprint volume going to be the Charlton E-Man stories, or some=
thing later?=C2=A0I totally agree that Nick Cuti brought a lot to the table=
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> =C2=A0
> Bruce Buchanan
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> From: Allen Smith <metron12001@...>
> To: "CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com" <CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com>
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> =C2=A0=20
> It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if i=
t is a reprint volume.=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not all of=
 them were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
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> =C2=A0=20
> What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comic=
s. I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Stato=
n and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.
>=20
> Anyone know more details?
>=20
> Rip Off
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Great! It's a must-buy then. Cuti & Staton are a great team. In addition to=
 E-Man, I like a lot of their Charlton ghost story work together.
=C2=A0
Bruce Buchanan

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=C2=A0=20
It's going to be Charlton material. How much, and if it will include Mauser=
 stories, I don't know. Given the cover, I'd reckon not.=20

Rip Off

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.> wrote:
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> So is this reprint volume going to be the Charlton E-Man stories, or some=
thing later?=C3=82=C2=A0I totally agree that Nick Cuti brought a lot to the=
 table as a writer.=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> Bruce Buchanan
>=20
> From: Allen Smith <metron12001@...>
> To: "CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com" <CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:09 PM
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> =C3=82=C2=A0=20
> It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if i=
t is a reprint volume.=C3=82=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not =
all of them were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
> =C3=82=C2=A0
> =C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
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> What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comic=
s. I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Stato=
n and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.
>=20
> Anyone know more details?
>=20
> Rip Off
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 I agree.=C2=A0 They added real life to the characters.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have a Great Day!!!
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The "Creature"



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Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:35 PM
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Great! It's a must-buy then. Cuti & Staton are a great team. In addition to=
 E-Man, I like a lot of their Charlton ghost story work together.
=C2=A0
Bruce Buchanan

From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 5:28 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: E-Man Reprint From First?

=C2=A0=20
It's going to be Charlton material. How much, and if it will include Mauser=
 stories, I don't know. Given the cover, I'd reckon not.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Buchanan <brucebuchanan53@..=
.> wrote:
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> So is this reprint volume going to be the Charlton E-Man stories, or some=
thing later?=C3=82=C2=A0I totally agree that Nick Cuti brought a lot to the=
 table as a writer.=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0
> =C3=82=C2=A0
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> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man Reprint From First?
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> It would be nice to know that E Man is back in print once more, even if i=
t is a reprint volume.=C3=82=C2=A0 The First Issues were very good but not =
all of them were written by Nick Cuti, who gave E Man a nice light touch.
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> =C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0 Allen Smith
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> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:35 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] E-Man Reprint From First?
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> What can anyone tell me about an E-Man reprint from a revived First Comic=
s. I've read some articles about it, and it's suggested that both Joe Stato=
n and Nick Cuti are involved. One article mentioned 200 pages of material.
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Today I begin a close reading of the utterly fantastic E-Man series by Nick=
 Cuti and Joe Staton.=20

E-Man Volume 1, Number 1 is dated October 1973 and was published bimonthly =
by Charlton Publications Incorporated. The cover art is credited to Nick Cu=
ti and Joe Staton.=20

The lead story is written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti and drawn by Joe Staton. Ge=
orge Wildman is the editor of the issue.=20=20

Part One "The Beginning" starts millions of years ago and  millions of mile=
s away from Earth in the deep of space when a star goes nova and packet of =
energy escaped the grasp of the star and began to drift through space seeki=
ng to know itself, and eventually seeking communication with other beings. =
It chances upon a spaceship and penetrates through the exhaust finding an a=
rray of robot slaves in service of a great and powerful Brain enclosed in a=
 protective shell. The Brain speaks of a lethal weapon it hopes to unleash =
to support the "forces of peace" on the planet Pluto. The energy packet is =
confused by this contradictory comment and assumes the material form of one=
 of the Brain's robot servants.  But that tiny addition of mass and weight =
is enough to throw the spaceship off course and causes it to head for the c=
enter of the solar system. It's headlong plunge into the sun is interrupted=
 by the Earth and the space crashes. The offending energy packet assumes th=
e form of a rabbit and escapes.

In a nearby city the beautiful ginger-haired Nova Kane is just finishing he=
r performance as an erotic dancer when a voice speaks to her out of one of =
the light bulbs and instructs her to break said bulb. She complies and the =
energy packet filters into the dressing room and assumes the shape of a blo=
nde man who quickly requests a place to stay. When he sees Nova's Jeep whic=
h she uses in her Geology studies, he takes up residence in its battery for=
 the night.=20

Part Two "The Brain and the Bomb" begins the next morning as Nova prepares =
breakfast for her alien guest. He is asking about the famous formula "E=3DM=
C2" he spies on a poster of Albert Einstein. She explains and the energy pa=
cket adopts the name "E-Man" since the formula seems to explain what he doe=
s transforming from energy to matter and back again. There's a knock on Nov=
a's door and her landlord Mr.Walon appears and unexpectedly fires a pistol =
point blank at the beautiful girl. E-Man defeats the addled man and they fi=
gure his time up north in the area of Pine Hill might explain his actions s=
ince the alien spaceship crashed in that vicinity along with its deadly pay=
load of a gas bomb. Nova dials the phone and connects to that area and E-Ma=
n transforms himself into energy and rides the lines to his destination. No=
va gets in her Jeep and heads in that direction more slowly.=20

Later that day around noon, she arrives at a local store and while asking d=
irections is attacked by the people there for no apparent reason other than=
 she's a stranger. Arriving in the shape of cat, E-Man joins her where she'=
s hiding from the abrupt attack and her tells her to go to Wakely's Motel w=
here he will call. She answers, he appears and for the first time assumes t=
he superheroic form of E-Man. The head together in the Jeep into the countr=
yside where they find the wreckage of the spaceship. Some of the Brain's ro=
botic servants appear and attack forcing E-Man to take refuge along with No=
va inside a sealed compartment. Leaving her relatively safe inside he goes =
to find the Brain as it is only seconds until the Brain's gas bomb will exp=
lode overwhelming the entirety of the human race. But with two seconds to s=
pare E-Man fires an energy bolt that cracks the Brain's protective shell an=
d the threat seems to have ended as Nova and E-Man figure out how they'll g=
et back to her home.=20

"Melifera Adamsonii on the Warpath" is a one-page text piece pondering the =
nature of apocalyptic literature and how such a narrative might well be wri=
tten given the nature of Africa Killer Bees in Brazil and their clearly hos=
tile nature to humans. The threat of armies of bees and possibly ants is of=
fered as a cautionary note.=20

The back-up series The Knight begins with a tale called "Operation: Rotten =
Apple!" written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by Tom Sutton. George Wildman is a=
gain listed as editor. We encounter the spy organization C.H.E.S.S. (Comman=
d for the Hindrance of Espionage, Sabotage and Subversion) and its lead ope=
rative Link Chain the Knight. He meets up with powerful Marko Tulsa the Roo=
k and the beautiful Mari Halliday the Bishop and the trio appear before the=
 King and the Queen to receive their mission which is to infiltrate Molly E=
lectronics and uncover the spy or "bad apple" in its midst. Link and Marko =
do so and that night Link is able to photograph some secret files which he =
smuggles out to Mari. The next morning Marko sends an urgent message to Lin=
k to meet him and the pair arm themselves for a confrontation as it is reve=
aled that the entire outfit at Molloy Electronics are spies and that it is =
Link and Marko who are the "bad apples". They fight their way through the e=
nemy forces and in a final barricade wait for reinforcements which do arriv=
e lead by Mari. Link then takes Mari out to dinner, but his fatigue gets th=
e best of him and he snoozes through the date.

This debut issue is a humdinger. As has been discussed many times E-Man is =
inspired by classic shape-changing hero Plastic Man, and not only in the po=
wers accorded to the lead character, but also in the zany tone adopted thro=
ughout the story. There's a great sense of playfulness in the manner of the=
 storytelling. Some is the compression of space forcing issues like E-Man's=
 emergence in Nova's dressing room to be dealt with summarily, but it also =
points to Nova's openness and willingness to engage other people. E-Man cou=
ld not have found a better person to help him find his way on Earth. The in=
terplay between E-Man and Nova is the heart of this series and Cuti gets to=
 that core quickly.

E-Man's bright look is also key I think to his long-standing as a cult figu=
re. Being orange is unusual for superheroes, but it suits E-Man exceedingly=
 well. The brightness of the costume represents well his sunny personality.=
 The symbol of Einstein's equation is nerdy and ideal for this idiosyncrati=
c superhero. The logo of the series, which has rarely been tampered with, i=
s also directly connected to the nature of the characters. It's a blaze of =
energy crackling across the top of the cover. It's at once rough but also e=
legant, a beautiful one-off that cannot be beat.=20=20

The Brain will become E-Man's arch-nemesis, and it is elegant that the two =
alien entities come to Earth together, though for far different reasons. Th=
eir motivations again speak to the themes of the comic, and it's not too mu=
ch to say that this comic does have themes about the nature of life and way=
 people behave. The slavish power of the intellectual Brain is defeated by =
the exuberance and emotional intensity of youth and the longing for freedom=
 embodied by E-Man. He's a million years old but only a day young. The stor=
y begins with his search form meaning and while that search is far from ove=
r, he feel by the story's end that he is well underway in finding what he's=
 looked for all those millions of years.

The Knight back-up story is a lean effective tale and effectively evokes th=
e Steranko super-spy stories which doubtless inspired it. Tom Sutton is in =
fine form.=20

This comic has been reprinted twice, once in 1977 under the Modern Comics l=
abel and again in 1985 by First Comics.=20

In the next issue, the search for understanding will continue.=20

Rip Off


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Rip,
I had not realized the connection between the Knight stores and DC's Checkm=
ate organization until you reminded me.
Thanks,
Darci


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From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:40 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The E-Man Reports #1


=C2=A0=20
Today I begin a close reading of the utterly fantastic E-Man series by Nick=
 Cuti and Joe Staton.=20

E-Man Volume 1, Number 1 is dated October 1973 and was published bimonthly =
by Charlton Publications Incorporated. The cover art is credited to Nick Cu=
ti and Joe Staton.=20

The lead story is written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti and drawn by Joe Staton. Ge=
orge Wildman is the editor of the issue.=20

Part One "The Beginning" starts millions of years ago and  millions of mile=
s away from Earth in the deep of space when a star goes nova and packet of =
energy escaped the grasp of the star and began to drift through space seeki=
ng to know itself, and eventually seeking communication with other beings. =
It chances upon a spaceship and penetrates through the exhaust finding an a=
rray of robot slaves in service of a great and powerful Brain enclosed in a=
 protective shell. The Brain speaks of a lethal weapon it hopes to unleash =
to support the "forces of peace" on the planet Pluto. The energy packet is =
confused by this contradictory comment and assumes the material form of one=
 of the Brain's robot servants.  But that tiny addition of mass and weight =
is enough to throw the spaceship off course and causes it to head for the c=
enter of the solar system. Its headlong plunge into the sun is interrupted =
by the Earth and the space crashes. The offending energy packet
 assumes the form of a rabbit and escapes.

In a nearby city the beautiful ginger-haired Nova Kane is just finishing he=
r performance as an erotic dancer when a voice speaks to her out of one of =
the light bulbs and instructs her to break said bulb. She complies and the =
energy packet filters into the dressing room and assumes the shape of a blo=
nde man who quickly requests a place to stay. When he sees Nova's Jeep whic=
h she uses in her Geology studies, he takes up residence in its battery for=
 the night.=20

Part Two "The Brain and the Bomb" begins the next morning as Nova prepares =
breakfast for her alien guest. He is asking about the famous formula "E=3DM=
C2" he spies on a poster of Albert Einstein. She explains and the energy pa=
cket adopts the name "E-Man" since the formula seems to explain what he doe=
s transforming from energy to matter and back again. There's a knock on Nov=
a's door and her landlord Mr.Walon appears and unexpectedly fires a pistol =
point blank at the beautiful girl. E-Man defeats the addled man and they fi=
gure his time up north in the area of Pine Hill might explain his actions s=
ince the alien spaceship crashed in that vicinity along with its deadly pay=
load of a gas bomb. Nova dials the phone and connects to that area and E-Ma=
n transforms himself into energy and rides the lines to his destination. No=
va gets in her Jeep and heads in that direction more slowly.=20

Later that day around noon, she arrives at a local store and while asking d=
irections is attacked by the people there for no apparent reason other than=
 she's a stranger. Arriving in the shape of cat, E-Man joins her where she'=
s hiding from the abrupt attack and he tells her to go to Wakely's Motel wh=
ere he will call. She answers, he appears and for the first time assumes th=
e superheroic form of E-Man. They head together in the Jeep into the countr=
yside where they find the wreckage of the spaceship. Some of the Brain's ro=
botic servants appear and attack forcing E-Man to take refuge along with No=
va inside a sealed compartment. Leaving her relatively safe inside he goes =
to find the Brain as it is only seconds until the Brain's gas bomb will exp=
lode overwhelming the entirety of the human race. But with two seconds to s=
pare E-Man fires an energy bolt that cracks the Brain's protective shell an=
d the threat seems to have ended as Nova and E-Man figure out how
 they'll get back to her home.=20

"Melifera Adamsonii on the Warpath" is a one-page text piece pondering the =
nature of apocalyptic literature and how such a narrative might well be wri=
tten given the nature of Africa Killer Bees in Brazil and their clearly hos=
tile nature to humans. The threat of armies of bees and possibly ants is of=
fered as a cautionary note.=20

The back-up series The Knight begins with a tale called "Operation: Rotten =
Apple!" written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by Tom Sutton. George Wildman is a=
gain listed as editor. We encounter the spy organization C.H.E.S.S. (Comman=
d for the Hindrance of Espionage, Sabotage and Subversion) and its lead ope=
rative Link Chain the Knight. He meets up with powerful Marko Tulsa the Roo=
k and the beautiful Mari Halliday the Bishop and the trio appear before the=
 King and the Queen to receive their mission which is to infiltrate Molly E=
lectronics and uncover the spy or "bad apple" in its midst. Link and Marko =
do so and that night Link is able to photograph some secret files which he =
smuggles out to Mari. The next morning Marko sends an urgent message to Lin=
k to meet him and the pair arm themselves for a confrontation as it is reve=
aled that the entire outfit at Molloy Electronics are spies and that it is =
Link and Marko who are the "bad apples". They fight their way
 through the enemy forces and in a final barricade wait for reinforcements =
which do arrive lead by Mari. Link then takes Mari out to dinner, but his f=
atigue gets the best of him and he snoozes through the date.

This debut issue is a humdinger. As has been discussed many times E-Man is =
inspired by classic shape-changing hero Plastic Man, and not only in the po=
wers accorded to the lead character, but also in the zany tone adopted thro=
ughout the story. There's a great sense of playfulness in the manner of the=
 storytelling. Some is the compression of space forcing issues like E-Man's=
 emergence in Nova's dressing room to be dealt with summarily, but it also =
points to Nova's openness and willingness to engage other people. E-Man cou=
ld not have found a better person to help him find his way on Earth. The in=
terplay between E-Man and Nova is the heart of this series and Cuti gets to=
 that core quickly.

E-Man's bright look is also key I think to his long-standing as a cult figu=
re. Being orange is unusual for superheroes, but it suits E-Man exceedingly=
 well. The brightness of the costume represents well his sunny personality.=
 The symbol of Einstein's equation is nerdy and ideal for this idiosyncrati=
c superhero. The logo of the series, which has rarely been tampered with, i=
s also directly connected to the nature of the characters. It's a blaze of =
energy crackling across the top of the cover. It's at once rough but also e=
legant, a beautiful one-off that cannot be beat.=20

The Brain will become E-Man's arch-nemesis, and it is elegant that the two =
alien entities come to Earth together, though for far different reasons. Th=
eir motivations again speak to the themes of the comic, and it's not too mu=
ch to say that this comic does have themes about the nature of life and way=
 people behave. The slavish power of the intellectual Brain is defeated by =
the exuberance and emotional intensity of youth and the longing for freedom=
 embodied by E-Man. He's a million years old but only a day young. The stor=
y begins with his search for meaning and while that search is far from over=
, he feels by the story's end that he is well underway in finding what he's=
 looked for all those millions of years.

The Knight back-up story is a lean effective tale and effectively evokes th=
e Steranko super-spy stories which doubtless inspired it. Tom Sutton is in =
fine form.=20

This comic has been reprinted twice, once in 1977 under the Modern Comics l=
abel and again in 1985 by First Comics.=20

In the next issue, the search for understanding will continue.=20

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E-Man Volume 1, Number 2 is dated December 1973, a bimonthly comic from Cha=
rlton Publications Inc. The cover art is by Joe Staton. George Wildman is t=
he editor.=20

In the Prologue to the first story written by Nick Cuti and drawn by Joe St=
aton, the Brain from Sirius defeated in the first issue repairs itself and =
sends a message to its home that more weapons are needed to subdue the Eart=
h and to have revenge on E-Man.

Chapter One of "The Entropy Twins" begins in Nova Kane's apartment during b=
reakfast as E-Man in the shape of toast surprises the lovely Nova. He says =
he wants to go to the zoo, familiarize himself further with aspects of his =
adopted home the Earth. Since her breakfast is ruined Nova allows him to bu=
y her a hotdog at the zoo. The scene shifts to upstate New York where the B=
rain has gotten his new weapons, two humanoid figures called the "Entropy T=
wins". The scene shifts yet again to the zoo and specifically the lake wher=
e E-Man and Nova are enjoying a boat ride. But E-Man bumps another boat wit=
h a couple in it and the young lady's purse falls into the water, which E-M=
an using his shape-changing powers discreetly rescues.=20

The two couples agree to have lunch together. Nova introduces E-Man as "Ale=
c Tronn" (which surprises him) while the similar-looking couple say their n=
ames are Michael and Juno. Despite their similar looks they say they are no=
t related, merely good friends. After lunch Nova reveals that her real name=
 is Katrinka Colchnzski, "Nova Kane" is just a stage name.  Suddenly a gian=
t mass of ameobas working in concert rise from the lake and attack folks at=
 the zoo, but E-Man reverting to his superhero mode defeats the "monster". =
Then a weird creature seemingly constructed from various zoo animals threat=
ens them and he likewise is able to defeat it. As soon as these two threats=
 are solved though, suddenly Nova's Jeep flies up into the air.=20

Chapter Two begins with not only Nova's Jeep, but all cars being lifted int=
o the sky as if being pulled by magnetism. Then an earthquake erupts beneat=
h their feet opening up the streets. E-Man notices the couple Michael and J=
uno at the scene. Nova falls onto the top of a subway train and E-Man seeki=
ng a safe way to stop the speeding train rides the third rail as energy and=
 gets ahead of it then becomes a vast spider-like web across the tunnel cat=
ching the train and gently slowing it down. He has figured out what the nat=
ure of the threat, and Nova injured but safe, he knows what he must do.=20

The Entropy Twins meanwhile have returned to confront the Brain and request=
 that since they have completed the test of their powers they should return=
 to Sirius. But the Brain says that they have not completed their mission s=
ince E-Man lives. They are to use their powers of Entropy, Michael being Or=
der and Juno disorder and they must destroy him. The reluctantly agree. Sud=
denly a cloud appears overhead and then before a grim figure of E-Man appea=
rs. Wordlessly he fires an energy bolt at Michael seemingly killing him. Ju=
no pleads but E-Man without a word fires another bolt into her. His face is=
 implacable as the twins lay upon the hillside.=20

Later at the hospital where Nova is recuperating E-Man explains how Michael=
's powers of Order caused the Ameobas to work together and the atoms to for=
m magnetism, and how Juno's disorder powers caused the zoo animals to coher=
e as a chaotic beast and cause the earthquake. They once had to be apart fo=
r their powers to work, but he did not kill them, but changed them so that =
now they cannot be together. It is a brutal penalty for young lovers.=20

"E-Mail" features three letters from fans who have read of the new superher=
o comic from Charlton. One writer has read an advance copy of the comic.=20

"Killjoy" is written and drawn by Steve Ditko. The story begins with Robber=
 Hood and his Merry Men being defeated by the silent Killjoy. The reporter =
Ed Gab shows up at the end. Then the dictator General Disaster is also inte=
rrupted and defeated by Killjoy and Al Ace a counter intelligence officer a=
ppears. Jungle Jake, a villain who uses zoo animals is next to meet and be =
defeated by Killjoy and Jud Lah shows up. Mr.Hart of the "Foundation to Pro=
tect the Guilty from Justice" is crying about these "injustices" wrought on=
 these three villains by Killjoy but finds himself accosted on the street b=
y the three villains who are working together. Then a mysterious woman name=
d Flame appears and agrees to get revenge on Killjoy for the villains. She =
pretends to be a Countess under threat from the Abductors who do appear as =
does Killjoy but when she gets him in her embrace, she suddenly erupts into=
 flame. But Killjoy is unaffected and the assembled forces of all the villa=
ins charge into the room to attack him. He beats them all and rounds them u=
p for the police who wonder if Killjoy will show up again.

This is a zany comic book. The story picks up nicely after the previous iss=
ue, this sense of continuity a relatively rare thing in Charlton comics of =
the time. I really like the breezy way that elements of the E-Man myth are =
introduced. That Nova is the one who names E-Man "Alec Tronn" is ideal. She=
 is the who in many ways defines who he is since he is taking a form to ple=
ase her, so it's completely fitting that she should name him.=20

The nature of Nova's and Alec's relationship seems clearly implied, though =
never directly stated. They appear to be lovers, a situation underscored by=
 the Entropy Twins who seem to mirror them in many ways. But E-Man's naive =
nature undercuts any overtly sexual tension in the story, making it safe I =
suppose for the Comics Code folks.=20

In this early issue though, we get to see E-Man as a darker figure. His two=
-page assault on the Entropy Twins is rather grim for this lighthearted com=
ic and is surprising since he usually comes across as affable and open. For=
 him to suddenly appear to be a silent avenger similar in style to Clint Ea=
stwood's Man With No Name is startling and given the confines of this comic=
 a tad scary. I'd point those folks who want to write off the series as a c=
omedy to this scene. There's more going on here than just a spoof of superh=
eroes. This is at once a bit of a deconstruction of superhero tropes but si=
multaneously a serious treatment of same.=20

The lead E-Man story was reprinted in 1977 under the Modern Comics imprint =
and again in 1985 by First Comics.=20

E-Man the comic has a bit of a hiatus before the third issue, which as it t=
urns out is not really the third issue. More on that next time.=20

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Love the Charlton E-Man stories! Lots of fun.
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E-Man Volume 2 Number 3 is dated June 1974.=20

The six-month gap between this issue and the last was the result of a paper=
 shortage which seriously crimped production for Charlton in early 1974. Th=
is was a time of shortages as the United States was still feeling the effec=
ts of the 1973 Oil Embargo and the "Energy Crisis" was something that affec=
ted all aspects of society. As it turns out the story for issue three, "The=
 Energy Crisis" was suggested by George Wildman the editor and the original=
 story already produced was delayed until issue four. As a result this stor=
y features a more mature art style by Joe Staton who supplies the cover too=
. This is a landmark issue in other ways as well. More later.=20

"The Energy Crisis" is written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti and drawn by Joe Stato=
n. It begins in New York City during an energy crunch when the entire town =
is suffering a brown out. Things are tough all over, and even the Gala Thea=
ter where Nova Kane performs as an exotic dancer is suffering. This is poin=
ted out by fellow dancer Rosie Redd to the studious Nova as she changes. Th=
e two girls decide to walk to the hospital together where E-Man, Nova's boy=
friend is helping during the power crunch. They are assaulted by a mugger b=
ut Nova is able to fend him off with her battery-laden purse. But Rosie dis=
appears into the wall of a warehouse before Nova's eyes. She rushes to E-Ma=
n for help but he's too busy helping the city stay safe during the crisis. =
As he rushes off to a fire she decides to get help in the form of a private=
 detective.=20

She uses a flyer to find the rundown office of Michael Mauserwho quickly te=
lls Nova she mustn't call him "Mickey". The grubby P.I. is cleaning his gun=
, a Mauser of course, while Nova explains Rosie disappearance. Mauser and N=
ova got to the scene of the disappearance and find suspicious tracks and a =
sign for the town of "Boarsville" the home of Samuel Boar an oil magnate of=
 some reputation. They head to Boarsville but are waylaid on the road by a =
mysterious ray and both are captured but not before Nova is able to phone E=
-Man who uses the open phone line to trace Nova's call to the area just out=
side of Boarsville.=20

In Part II "The Battery" E-Man is just outside Boarsville and goes to the i=
nn of one Mrs.Clover where he checks in. He see suspicious activity outside=
, specifically a truck being loaded with human-sized canisters and he follo=
ws the trail in the phone lines once again. Mrs.Clover reports on his absen=
ce to Samuel Boar. There is a break in the line and E-Man is cast to the gr=
ound where a mysterious figure in leather jacket and an ominous helmet abso=
rbs the Energy Man right into itself. This robotic servant called The Batte=
ry takes E-Man to Samuel Boar who it seems has solved his personal energy c=
risis by kidnapping people and using them as batteries until they run dry a=
t which point he replenishes his supply. He puts E-Man in a chamber identic=
al to ones which contain both Nova and Mauser but E-Man converts to energy =
and escapes. The Battery hunts him down in the Boar mansion and but is trip=
ped up by E-Man disguised as a rug and is damaged in the fall. Boar is swif=
tly arrested and matters are put as right as they can be.=20

The story ends some time late with Nova paying Mauser for his time and nixi=
ng his idea that E-Man might be a good private detective. She doesn't want =
Mauser's cynicism corrupting E-Man's lovable nature. Mauser calls Nova a "t=
ough broad" which doesn't go over well as the story closes.=20

There is one final panel with E-Man sitting in a bucolic setting surround b=
y flora an fauna making a plea to readers to be mindful about resources and=
 to "Save the Earth".

"E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment, all complimentary about the ne=
w E-Man comic. One writer makes the common mistake of thinking "Nicola" is =
a woman's name and gives team props for having that perspective. He is put =
right.=20

"The Dragon Killer" is written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by Wayne Howard. Th=
is story stars Travis a time-traveling hero. The tale begins with a young T=
ravis saying farewell to his two time-traveling parents who leave him in th=
e care of his computer steed, the time machine named "Anachrom". They do no=
t return and Anachrom takes on the care of the boy named Travis teaching hi=
m and caring for him through time.=20

As an adult Travis travels to the time of the dinosaurs and finds much to h=
is surprise other time travelers, a man and his daughter who use much more =
primitive time-traveling equipment. This machinery accidentally sends a Tyr=
annosaurus Rex through a time warp. Travis follows on Anachrom and they fin=
d themselves in the Middle Ages where they find a fallen and deceased knigh=
t. Adapting the knight's armor for his own purposes Travis seeks out the T-=
Rex or "Dragon" which is threatening a maiden and slays the beast. The prin=
cess thanks him and takes him to her father's castle but indicates they nee=
d not hurry.

This story has been reprinted under the Modern Comics imprint in 1978 and l=
ater in 1985 by First Comics.=20

Reading this tale of an America besieged by energy woes and suffering from =
economic pressures really makes me speculate on today's headlines. With the=
 United States currently suffering energy pressures, the weakest economy in=
 decades, wars that seem never to cease, and having just suffered blow to i=
t credit reputation brought on by political incompetence, I'm very much rem=
inded of those days in the 70's when Americans dealt with rationing of reso=
urces and a feeling that America's time had come and perhaps was going. The=
 more things changes the more they stay the same.=20

This E-Man story spoke to its times, and sadly speaks to ours as well. It's=
 incumbent on all of us to approach these times with the spirit of voluntee=
rism exhibited by E-Man and not so much the cynicism embodied by Mike Mause=
r, though the latter is all too easy to understand. We were promised a time=
 of hope and change, and since the change is taking so much longer than we =
expected (not really) the hope is the part we need to focus on.=20

As I read this story of one man's greed brought low and made of service to =
his fellow citizens, I hope that we find a means to deal with the issues th=
at confront us today.=20

The Travis story is hoot, a bright bit of sci-fi fluff in stark contrast to=
 the more glum E-Man story up front.=20

Next time a return to fantasy and the missing E-Man #3 turns up.

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E-Man Volume 2, Number 4 is dated August 1974 and was published by Chartlon=
  Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman and the cover was done by =
Joe Staton.=20

"City in the Sand" is written by Nick Cuti and drawn by Joe Staton. It begi=
ns in Egypt where Nova Kane is dancing to rave reviews in the Camel Club. S=
he is especially appreciated because she incorporates native elements into =
her routine. After she's finished she meets a man named Kash Bogni in the s=
treet and he gives her a map to a Lost City just before he is knifed down. =
E-Man appears in the guise of the Great God Ra and defeats the two murderer=
s. He and Nova then follow up on their mission which seems to have been und=
ertaken in concert with the United States government to find the Lost City.=
 They take Nova's Jeep into the desert and find the ruins of the Lost City =
which turns out to be fairly easy to find. The secret it seems lies in the =
center and they seek that out finding a tower which they ascend. Inside the=
 tower they find anachronistic hi-tech equipment which they investigate and=
 determine is a time machine intact but bereft of power. Since power is eas=
y for Alec Tronn, the machine is soon active and they are transported into =
the past, into the heyday of the Lost City of Naab which is a technological=
 marvel. They search the city finding many signs of a military nature and m=
any hostile soldiers. Fearing for their safety they leave the city and find=
 at an oasis an the hidden abode of Ramis the dethroned ruler of the people=
.=20

He tells Nova and E-Man that the people of this ancient "Egyptian" city are=
 actually aliens from space and they used their technology to gain a footho=
ld on the planet Earth. He says that a plague though has forced the people =
to isolate themselves from their own children (the seeming source of the pl=
ague) and consequently the children do not get the care they need making th=
em ideal fodder for the Faro's war machine. Disguising themselves the three=
 re-enter the city and go to a great bubble which houses the isolated child=
ren and as it turns out their pets too, furry critters called Bools. E-Man =
assumes the form of a child and investigates the interior of the bubble. Me=
anwhile Nova and Ramis are arrested. Nova and Ramis are brought before the =
Faro who announces they are to be executed. E-Man appears and stops the pro=
ceedings and announces to one and all that the Bools, or more specifically =
the fleas they carry are the actual source of the plague and that the child=
ren can be freed. The Faro then indicates he knew this all along, but prefe=
rred the status quo since it yielded a vast number of potential soldiers. B=
ut a Bool attacks him and infects the Faro is infected. Ramis retakes his t=
hrone and announces that the families of Naab will be reunited.=20

"E-Man!...The SF Comic Book of the Future." is a special letters page featu=
ring one letter of comment from the science fiction magazine Fantastic Scie=
nce Fiction & Fantasy Stories, specifically the March 1974 issue edited by =
Ted White who gave permission for this letter to be reprinted. The letter w=
as written by one Frank J. Hayes, III and gives an extended and exceedingly=
 backhanded compliment to Charlton's E-Man comic saying that despite its ma=
ny elements which will doubtless appeal to the unwitting masses, there is s=
till much in the comic to appeal to true connoisseurs of true science ficti=
on. The letter smacks a very snobby tone alas, but at least seems to sugges=
t E-Man is among the very best of the garbage. Joe Staton's work as an arti=
st for Ted White's magazine is noted.=20

"Killjoy" is the second installment of this Steve Ditko vehicle. It begins =
with Killer Ded in a gun battle demanding to be taken not alive but dead. K=
illjoy captures him alive, frustrating the villain. Then a mob of muggers g=
athers around a victim who is saved by Killjoy as the muggers attack each o=
ther. Killer Ded escapes prison. A robber named S.S.Snake plys his trade at=
 a local business but is engaged and fought by Killjoy but escapes. Killer =
Ded is taken alive by Killjoy again. S.S.Snake attempts a mugging but is st=
opped by Killjoy again. At the same time Mr.Hart of the Foundation to Prote=
ct the Guilty from Justice bemoans that criminals are so mistreated and is =
joined by another wimpering man saying the same thing named Mr.Sole. Meanwh=
ile Killer Ded is taken alive by Killjoy a few more times. Then a mob of cr=
iminals all having adopted super-villain identities having to do with diamo=
nds (Diamond Head, King of Diamonds, Diamond Lady, Diamond X, etc.) attempt=
 to rob a jeweler but only S.S.Snake gets the loot which turns out to be a =
booby trap. Snake is stopped once and for all by Killjoy. Killer Ded though=
 escapes some more.=20

This story was reprinted under the Modern Comics label in 1978 and again in=
 1985 by First Comics.=20

After the previous story grounded in the somewhat depressing headlines of t=
he time about energy shortages, this issue offers up a flight of fancy with=
 time travel and exotic locations galore. The story has a light bounce to i=
t as the action unfolds at a hectic pace. Why Nova is working with the gove=
rnment is unclear, and no one seems terribly concerned about it, so consequ=
ently it's not a matter the reader need dither over either.=20

There is a specifically anti-military message in this story as it is clearl=
y implied that "good" soldiers are the result of misbegotten home lives. Th=
e time travel angle is a bit unclear since Nova and E-Man solve the problem=
 of the plague, the eventually cause of Naab's collapse is not revealed. Th=
e alien nature of the people is intriguing and points to the theories in vo=
gue at the time from Erich Von Daniken and others about the ancient astrona=
uts. It's a clever hook for a story as many have discovered over the decade=
s.=20

The humor of the series is beginning to develop a bit as Staton is doing a =
lot of small sight gags in the story. The translated posters of Faro are al=
l pretty funny, spoofs of classic military recruitment posters. And the lai=
r of Ramis at the oasis looked suspiciously like Plastic Man's goggles to m=
e.=20

Now this issue was originally intended to be the third installment. But the=
 paper shortage caused a delay in publication in which time George Wildman =
pressed for a story more topical in its nature. Staton's art style is still=
 in his slightly more whimsical mode at this time.=20

As for Ditko's Killjoy which ran in this issue and in issue #2, we have her=
e vintage examples of undiluted Ditko. He expresses his Ayn Randian philoso=
phy in raw form much like he was doing in his fanzine and prozine work of t=
he time and later. Killjoy is fun but dense.=20

A grand issue of the series which is showing a quick maturity in tone and s=
tyle.=20

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E-Man Volume 2, Number 5 is dated November 1974 and was published by Charlt=
on Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. Joe Staton did the cover=
 artwork.=20

"The City Swallower" is written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by Joe Staton. The=
 tale begins on the crowded summer beach of Coney Island where Nova Kane is=
 bringing E-Man his first taste of ice cream. She trips over a concrete san=
d castle that turns out to be E-Man who abandoned sand as a substance becau=
se kids kept knocking him over. After a refreshing dip in the ocean (conven=
iently de-polluted by E-Man) Nova goes to get another ice cream. Almost at =
once E-Man spies a beautiful girl wearing odd clothing and peculiar goggles=
. He follows this siren into the sea but in following her goes through a we=
ird barrier and finds himself in another dimension fill with floating citie=
s connected by fragile roadways. He follows the girl and introduces himself=
 to her and her friend. The girl's name is Heidi and her friend is a small =
man named Peter Bolo. After Heidi leaves, Peter reveals to E-Man that he ad=
ores Heidi but she has many many boyfriends and has no time for him. He int=
roduces E-Man to his world filled with floating cities connected but not un=
ited where the citizens flit from town to town. But there is a threat and i=
t is named Norwol.=20

An alarm sounds and an incredibly huge creature appears named Norwol which =
swims slowly in the space between cities and then leisurely chooses one of =
the cities to consume utterly in its vast maw. E-Man flies out to intercept=
 the city-killer and despite making himself into a rocket harpoon is unable=
 to affect the monster. He is dazed but is rescued by Heidi and Peter in an=
 air-car. Peter then reveals his plan to unite the cities into one vast str=
ucture called "Uni-City" to the leaders of the cities, but they reject him =
because of the relative lack of power they will suffer and a lack of raw ma=
terials to make the connections secure. The Norwol reappears and threatens =
Heidi who has gone off sky-skiing with her other boyfriend Rog who abandons=
 her when the monster threatens. Peter and E-Man fly an air-car to her resc=
ue and then E-Man bravely attacks Norwol again. His attacks are puny then h=
e makes the tactical decision to allow himself to be swallowed by the monst=
er. Inside the creatures vast mouth he makes his way to its heart and despi=
te coming under attack by giant white antibodies which behave like leeches,=
 he is able to fire a burst of energy into Norwol's heart killing the monst=
er.=20

E-Man escapes the dead beast through a tear duct and finds that Heidi has t=
urned her attentions to Peter. Before leaving E-Man reveals to Peter that t=
he mostly unused roads connecting the cities would be useful material to ma=
ke the "Uni-City" structure. Heidi then leads E-Man to the barrier between =
dimensions and he returns home. When he emerges from the ocean along Coney =
Island, Heidi gives him a kiss of farewell which Nova returning with ice cr=
eam sees. She smacks E-Man with the ice cream leaving our hero to explain h=
is adventure to a disbelieving Nova.=20

"E-Mail" offers up to letters of comment, both complimentary to the series.=
 One writer promotes his own hero "Cog Man" and the other brags on Charlton=
's subscription service which both cheap and great for the collector since =
the issues are delivered flat.=20

Liberty Belle stars in the next story titled "Freedom Star". It is written =
by Joe Gill with Steve Ditko supplying the artwork. The story begins in the=
 modeling agency of Caroline Dean who rejects an offer from the local mob t=
o become her partners. She kicks the mobster out of her place helped by her=
 beautiful but capable models. Caroline then gets a call from the President=
 who orders her to go to Cape Kennedy where she is to uncover a threat to S=
kylab III. Donning her costume Caroline becomes Liberty Belle and heads to =
the Cape arriving in her special jet. She introduces herself to the powers =
that be and goes to inspect the three astronauts headed in launch area. She=
 realizes one of them is a Soviet spy named Kalovsky and after a very brief=
 stuggle she knocks him out. She then takes his place on the rocket and joi=
ns the surprised team on their way to Skylab III. Once on the Skylab she re=
veals that an attack of Space Pirates is imminent. But the story ends on th=
at cliffhanger with a request for fans to let the editors know if they want=
 more Liberty Belle. To my knowledge this story is it.

The lead E-Man story has been reprinted once in 1985 by First Comics.=20

This is a brisk sci-fi adventure tale told a by the ever-increasingly confi=
dent team of Cuti and Staton. The characters of E-Man and Nova are well est=
ablished and the introduction of new elements is handled deftly leaving ple=
nty of room for some outrageous action. We even get a wild full-page splash=
 featuring the monster Norwol.

The anti-establishment thematic strain in the book also reasserts itself in=
 that the political leaders of the flying cities seemed more concerned abou=
t their individual power than the welfare of the populations they seemingly=
 protect. It's a grim reminder of how power sometimes works, and sadly remi=
nds me of modern headlines too.=20=20

The character "Heidi" I believe might have been inspired by Heidi Saha, the=
 lovely young girl who was promoted by Warren Publications and wowed comics=
 fandom with her provocative portrayals of Vampirella at comic conventions.=
=20

The Liberty Belle story has some "hip" elements but is a chaotic micro-adve=
nture. I appreciate the talents of both Gill and Ditko, but it's no wonder =
she never appeared again despite her charming mini-skirt costume.=20

The month though was not over for E-Man. In Ghost Manor Volume 4, Number 21=
 dated November 1974, E-Man gets his first cameo. It comes in a story title=
d "Death in a Darkroom" written by Nicola Cuti and featuring Steve Ditko ar=
twork. E-Man makes his "appearance" as part of a float in a parade which is=
 being photographed by the story's protagonist. Blue Beetle and Captain Ato=
m make one-panel cameos also.=20

Then the story turns as the photographer finds he has actually photographed=
 a murder committed by an old man. He finds that his lens has crystal ball =
characteristics which have shown him murdering his own nagging wife in the =
future. As the story ends, he wonders what took him so long.=20

It's been a big month for E-Man. What does he do next? He goes to Disneywor=
ld! More next time.=20

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E-Man Volume 3, Number 6 is dated January, 1975. The editor is George Wildm=
an. The cover art is supplied by Joe Staton.=20

This to my mind is the first fully-realized and fully-mature issue of E-Man=
. Joe Staton's style has developed a distinctive edge, and Nick Cuti's comb=
ination of humor and adventure and sci-fi is thoroughly blended in the righ=
t proportions.=20

"Wunder-World" is written by Nick Cuti and drawn by Joe Staton. The story b=
egins in Florida at the amusement park named "Wunder World" where E-Man is =
wandering among the crowds trying to find a beauty competition his girlfrie=
nd Nova is taking part in. He sits and down and announces proudly that his =
girlfriend is in the show but when he realize he's found a pageant for "Lit=
te Miss Wunder", he transforms into an organge dog and slinks off. He finds=
 the right pageant and is there to see Nova win and be congratulated by her=
 friend Rosie who we met originally in issue three when she was kidnapped b=
y Samuel Boar and rescued by Nova and E-Man. As the girls are dressing the =
"E-Mutt" appears and changes into Alec Tronn, but Nova is embarrassed and a=
ngry that E-Man would violate the privacy despite the fact the girls are mo=
re dressed than at the pageant itself. E-Man, perplexed, slinks off again a=
s an abashed "E-Mutt".

As part of her prize, Nova is invited along with E-Man by William Wunder hi=
mself to tour the amusement park. He takes them to Idealland, Pleasureland,=
 and Fearland. All cater to adults and are populated by robotic creations. =
In the case of Fearland, the the frights are of a mythic nature such vampir=
es, werewolves, and the sort since the really horrible stuff of life such a=
s crime, pollution, and corruption art too much to handle. The tour ends bu=
t when Nova gets a shock from Wunder's hand when he leaves them, along with=
 the fact he doesn't seem to breathe, she gets suspicious that there is som=
ething going on. There is, as we follow Wunder as he removes his head and i=
n his robotic slave form reports to his master the Brain from Sirius.=20

"E-Man or, can Charlton Create the Next Comics Revolution?" is an article w=
hich takes the place of the usual letters page. This article is a review by=
 Steve Stern from the fanzine publication "The New York Review of Comics an=
d Books". Stern is very high on the comic E-Man and suggests it offers up s=
ome sophisticated black humor and compares it positively with the work of K=
urt Vonnegut. Also included on this page is a blurb advertising the publica=
tion of The Charlton Portfolio.

Part II begins at night in Wunder World as the park is being cleaned. Hidin=
g in a Dexter Duck trashcan Nova emerges and discovers the trashcan has bee=
n E-Man all along. The pair go back to Fearland and explore a house they sp=
otted on the tour which seemed to make Wunder hesitant when they asked abou=
t it. In the house they find an old man who calls himself "Toyman" and his =
young daughter Annie. It turns out Toyman is the guy who is responsible for=
 much of the technology which runs Wunder World and his partner William Wun=
der was the promoter. But Wunder has since died and another mysterious part=
ner took his place. Since only the Brain from Sirius could construct a robo=
t of that sophistication, E-Man is convinced of the Brain's involvement and=
 goes out to find his foe. In the swamps of Fearland he is attacked by the =
Brain in the form of a giant two-legged war machine. E-Man becomes an armor=
ed tripod and machine and the two battle furiously with E-Man getting the l=
osing share. He then changes into a massive wall to repel the charging war =
machine and crushes it. Then the various monsters from Fearland attack and =
E-Man is swarmed by vampires, werewolves, and ducks. In the melee he is tri=
cked in firing a blot into a hidden copse and instead hits a mirror reflect=
ing the blast into himself. He is unconscious.=20

At the house a Frankenstein monster robot attacks kidnaps Nova and destroys=
 Annie who turns out to be a robot herself. Nova is taken before the Brain =
who describes how he plans to overrun the country with amusement parks and =
rule the Earth as opposed to destroying it as it had originally planned. Bu=
t his just about to slay Nova when a wrench comes flying and cracks his pro=
tective shell, allowing his special atmosphere to escape and again the Brai=
n seems to die. The wrench was thrown by Toyman. After the attack at a mote=
l Nova and Rosie and Toyman are comparing notes. He says that since he now =
realizes his Annie was a substitute, he must find his own daughter named Ro=
seann Gilletti, and that just happens to be the real name of Rosie. The fat=
her and daughter reunited, E-Man turns up and says that after his battle he=
 had changed into a monkey wrench for safety's sake but someone picked him =
up and threw him.=20

Rog 2000 debuts in the story "That Was No Lady" written Nick Cuti and drawn=
 by John Byrne. It begins with the robot taxi driver Rog-2000 showing up in=
 Duffy's Tavern along with a very attractive female. After some inquire abo=
ut her, Rog reveals the mystery. It began when he picked up a mysterious st=
ranger hidden behind a large dark coat and a large dark hat. The stranger i=
s peculiar and tries to stiff Rog on the fare. When Rog objects, the strang=
er pulls out a strange gun and blasts the cab causing it to fall apart.=20

The stranger reveals himself to be Magno and reveals a super-villain costum=
e complete with cowl and cape. He uses his gun to destroy buildings and oth=
er things in the city. The police are unable to stop him and Rog takes it u=
pon himself, but gets disassembled like his cab for his trouble. After putt=
ing himself back together he eventually finds his own creator named Burns w=
ho he suspects also created the Anti-Magnetic gun used by Magno. It turns o=
ut he was right and he forces Burns to help him which Burns does by introdu=
cing him to the beautiful female named Syntac. While Magno continues his sp=
ree, he is confronted by Syntac but when he tries to shoot with the gun it =
fails to have an effect and further she fires a ray from her eyes that dest=
roys the gun. It seems Syntac is made of plastics and is invulnerable to th=
e effects of magnetism generally. Rog finishes his tale and shows the melte=
d gun as proof to Duffy the bartender.

The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in 1985 and the Rog-2000 stor=
y was reprinted by Pacific Comics in 1982.=20

As I said this is to my mind the first fully-functioning issue of E-Man. It=
 turns out this was also my very first issue of E-Man, and it is one of the=
 most significant comics in my collecting life. This issue along with the t=
hree debut issues of Ironjaw, The Phoenix,and Grim Ghost hit on the stands =
at the same time. These four issues rocked me, and as I read them I knew th=
at I was no longer a mere Marvel Zombie but a comics fan who wanted some va=
riety. These comics struck me at just the right time with just the right ma=
terial and I began my appreciation of all things Charlton and more.

The addition of Rog-2000 as the back-up at last gives the lead a companion =
which has the same salty tone. This addition makes the book feel complete a=
nd solid, really for the first time.=20

So it's no wonder I hold this comic is such esteem, but there's also no den=
ying it's quality. It's a fantastic mix of funny and scary and the characte=
rizations are utterly precise. The jabs at Disneyworld are obvious, and mos=
t potent is the critique of Walt Disney himself, reduced in this story to a=
n automaton slave to an alien invader. The naivete of human beings is hung =
out to dry by Cuti and Staton in this tale as the amusement park is reveale=
d to be a hollow environment in which more is hidden than revealed. The fac=
t the Brain wants to cover the country with them, says more about what Amer=
icans are willing to put up with in terms of self-delusion than anything el=
se. This is a pretty damning, but still pretty damn funny comic book story.=
=20

Next time E-Man loses control and Rog-2000 returns.

Rip Off=20




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E-Man Volume 3, Number 7 is dated March, 1975 and was published by Charlton=
 Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. Joe Staton painted the cov=
er.=20

"TV Man" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti with art by Joe Staton and color=
s by Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where Nova Kane is danci=
ng in all her glory. After the show she turns down an invitation from Rosie=
 Redd and her father (the Toyman from last issue) to go on a date with Alec=
 Tronn to a philosophy lecture. When Rosie leaves the E-Man poster on Nova'=
s dressing room wall turns into E-Man himself. When they go to retrieve the=
 poster he took down to make his surprise entrance he and Nova are both sho=
cked to find a note which reads "You are doomed to die Ms.Kane. Yours Truly=
, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova up, but she is eager to get on wi=
th her date with E-Man. As they walk down the street, E-Man undergoes a tra=
nsformation becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference, specifically a h=
atchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she flees and as she screams h=
e changes back with no seeming memory of the event. Nova punches him.=20

The scene shifts to a rooftop where a hooded super-villain type dials up an=
other television show to use to transform E-Man as he has done all evening.=
 The next horror film the mysterious villain finds is "The Brain Eater from=
 Planet X" and with that dialed in he beams at E-Man who transforms into th=
e TV monster and again threatens Nova. But the villain is not done with his=
 fun yet and stops before she is hurt. The villain then goes back to his me=
ager apartment and proclaims his revenge some more.=20

Part II "The Duel" picks up the story about a week later and E-Man has been=
 missing. Michael "Mickey" Mauser a private detective is walking down the s=
treet and not looking for our hero because no one is paying him to do so. A=
t his office the villain who dubs himself "TV" says that Mauser must find E=
-Man and bring him to Rockefeller Plaza the next day, and he gets Mauser to=
 comply by making him an offer he cannot refuse.=20

The scene shifts to Xanadu University and specifically the library where No=
va expresses her wish to find E-Man to her friend Arachne. (Arachne is the =
niece of Professor Cyrus Coffin who also makes a cameo and together they ar=
e the hosts of Charlton's Midnight Tales.) Juno of the Entropy Twins appear=
s and announces to Nova that her partner Michael is the mysterious villain =
and he is using his scientific know-how to gain revenge on E-Man for making=
 it so that Juno and Michael cannot be in each others' presence. She agrees=
 to take Nova to the showdown.

At Rockefeller Plaza Mauser leaves E-Man, who seems to have found with litt=
le difficulty, and "TV" or Michael unleashes his weapon which transforms E-=
Man into a version of the giant ape Konga. E-Konga goes on a quick rampage =
and finds Nova and snatches her up in his giant hand. He then does what all=
 giant apes do and climbs to the top of the Empire State Building where jet=
s appear in the sky to defeat the threat. But Juno is able from a distance =
to finally reason with the distraught Michael and at the last moment he sna=
ps off his TV beam and E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing int=
o nothing. Everyone now safe E-Man accepts Michael's apology and announces =
he will change the couple back the way they were before so they can be toge=
ther again.

"E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment, all positive. One wishes to an=
nounce an E-Man fan club, another talks about getting his most recent copy =
at a comics convention, and Bob Rodi, the third writer and veteran LoC man =
praises the comic and hopes the title reaches the stature of Superman and S=
pider-Man.=20

Rog-2000 shows up again in the tale "Withering Heights" written by Nicola C=
uti and drawn by John Byrne. The story begins as Rog is lost in the country=
 and his cab (which must be called the "Enterprise"...check out that licens=
e plate) runs out of gas. He walks up to a rundown hotel where he asks the =
beautiful girl named Zenia for some gas. While there he meets two smug gues=
ts, a man named Dinsmore and a woman named Boombat.  After getting some gas=
 Rog hears a noise and rushes into the hotel and he and Zenia discover that=
 old lady Boombat has been attacked and they see her being dragged into her=
 closet but no trace can be found after. Next they find old man Dinsmoore i=
n the same shape. Rog agrees to stay the night but soon finds himself under=
 attack by a huge transparent blob which he uses his borrowed gas to burn a=
s well as the rest of the hotel. As the hotel crumbles to the ground Rog wo=
nders out loud by Zenia had never been attacked as she begins to transform =
becoming transparent and announces that her Daddy would never attack his ch=
ild. Rog realizes he's in trouble.=20

The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in 1985 and the Rog-2000 stor=
y was reprinted by Pacific Comics in 1982.=20

This is a solid issue of E-Man and calls back some dandy characters from ea=
rly in the series. It's a clever story that takes full advantage of E-Man's=
 peculiar nature to create some wild visuals of him in monster forms. It wa=
s very neat to see Michael Mauser back, his role small but crucial. One cri=
ticism possibly is that Michael's return to sanity was a bit abrupt and dif=
ficult to swallow, but it works in the E-Man universe of niceness just bare=
ly.=20

The Rog-2000 story was a nice little romp with Byrne offering some properly=
 gothic touches. Putting the gleaming Rog in the old dump of a hotel create=
d some real contrasts in tone which served the story exceedingly well. We a=
ll know that Rog will prevail in the end, though we don't see it. This will=
ingness to trust the audience's instincts about how these types of stories =
work is key.

Two other things that helped make this a fanboy object of desire are the kn=
owing nods to other Charlton publications. For the first time we learn that=
 Nova attends or at least uses the library at Xanadu University, home of "T=
he Midnight Philosopher" Professor Coffin and the lovely Arachne. Wayne How=
ard's Midnight Tales was running at this same time and often featured work =
by Nick Cuti and Joe Staton. This hint of a larger Charlton universe was cl=
everly done here without drawing such attention that if you didn't know it =
bothered you.=20

Also vintage Charlton and movie character Konga gets a callback. Now admitt=
edly the Konga as drawn by Joe Staton is not all that much like the classic=
 giant ape from Charlton's old comics nor the movie they're inspired by, bu=
t it's enough for me that the name gets used. Cool beans.=20=20

Next time we find E-Man and Nova in a full-blown full-length epic and some =
big big changes are coming for the lovely Ms.Kane.=20

Rip Off




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Rip, I for one enjoy your E-Man reports and wanted to thank you for posting=
 them! It's a real trip down memory lane. Say, isn't about time we saw some=
 new E-Man comics someplace??

-Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> E-Man Volume 3, Number 7 is dated March, 1975 and was published by Charlt=
on Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. Joe Staton painted the c=
over.=20
>=20
> "TV Man" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti with art by Joe Staton and col=
ors by Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where Nova Kane is dan=
cing in all her glory. After the show she turns down an invitation from Ros=
ie Redd and her father (the Toyman from last issue) to go on a date with Al=
ec Tronn to a philosophy lecture. When Rosie leaves the E-Man poster on Nov=
a's dressing room wall turns into E-Man himself. When they go to retrieve t=
he poster he took down to make his surprise entrance he and Nova are both s=
hocked to find a note which reads "You are doomed to die Ms.Kane. Yours Tru=
ly, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova up, but she is eager to get on =
with her date with E-Man. As they walk down the street, E-Man undergoes a t=
ransformation becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference, specifically a=
 hatchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she flees and as she screams=
 he changes back with no seeming memory of the event. Nova punches him.=20
>=20
> The scene shifts to a rooftop where a hooded super-villain type dials up =
another television show to use to transform E-Man as he has done all evenin=
g. The next horror film the mysterious villain finds is "The Brain Eater fr=
om Planet X" and with that dialed in he beams at E-Man who transforms into =
the TV monster and again threatens Nova. But the villain is not done with h=
is fun yet and stops before she is hurt. The villain then goes back to his =
meager apartment and proclaims his revenge some more.=20
>=20
> Part II "The Duel" picks up the story about a week later and E-Man has be=
en missing. Michael "Mickey" Mauser a private detective is walking down the=
 street and not looking for our hero because no one is paying him to do so.=
 At his office the villain who dubs himself "TV" says that Mauser must find=
 E-Man and bring him to Rockefeller Plaza the next day, and he gets Mauser =
to comply by making him an offer he cannot refuse.=20
>=20
> The scene shifts to Xanadu University and specifically the library where =
Nova expresses her wish to find E-Man to her friend Arachne. (Arachne is th=
e niece of Professor Cyrus Coffin who also makes a cameo and together they =
are the hosts of Charlton's Midnight Tales.) Juno of the Entropy Twins appe=
ars and announces to Nova that her partner Michael is the mysterious villai=
n and he is using his scientific know-how to gain revenge on E-Man for maki=
ng it so that Juno and Michael cannot be in each others' presence. She agre=
es to take Nova to the showdown.
>=20
> At Rockefeller Plaza Mauser leaves E-Man, who seems to have found with li=
ttle difficulty, and "TV" or Michael unleashes his weapon which transforms =
E-Man into a version of the giant ape Konga. E-Konga goes on a quick rampag=
e and finds Nova and snatches her up in his giant hand. He then does what a=
ll giant apes do and climbs to the top of the Empire State Building where j=
ets appear in the sky to defeat the threat. But Juno is able from a distanc=
e to finally reason with the distraught Michael and at the last moment he s=
naps off his TV beam and E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing i=
nto nothing. Everyone now safe E-Man accepts Michael's apology and announce=
s he will change the couple back the way they were before so they can be to=
gether again.
>=20
> "E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment, all positive. One wishes to =
announce an E-Man fan club, another talks about getting his most recent cop=
y at a comics convention, and Bob Rodi, the third writer and veteran LoC ma=
n praises the comic and hopes the title reaches the stature of Superman and=
 Spider-Man.=20
>=20
> Rog-2000 shows up again in the tale "Withering Heights" written by Nicola=
 Cuti and drawn by John Byrne. The story begins as Rog is lost in the count=
ry and his cab (which must be called the "Enterprise"...check out that lice=
nse plate) runs out of gas. He walks up to a rundown hotel where he asks th=
e beautiful girl named Zenia for some gas. While there he meets two smug gu=
ests, a man named Dinsmore and a woman named Boombat.  After getting some g=
as Rog hears a noise and rushes into the hotel and he and Zenia discover th=
at old lady Boombat has been attacked and they see her being dragged into h=
er closet but no trace can be found after. Next they find old man Dinsmoore=
 in the same shape. Rog agrees to stay the night but soon finds himself und=
er attack by a huge transparent blob which he uses his borrowed gas to burn=
 as well as the rest of the hotel. As the hotel crumbles to the ground Rog =
wonders out loud by Zenia had never been attacked as she begins to transfor=
m becoming transparent and announces that her Daddy would never attack his =
child. Rog realizes he's in trouble.=20
>=20
> The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in 1985 and the Rog-2000 st=
ory was reprinted by Pacific Comics in 1982.=20
>=20
> This is a solid issue of E-Man and calls back some dandy characters from =
early in the series. It's a clever story that takes full advantage of E-Man=
's peculiar nature to create some wild visuals of him in monster forms. It =
was very neat to see Michael Mauser back, his role small but crucial. One c=
riticism possibly is that Michael's return to sanity was a bit abrupt and d=
ifficult to swallow, but it works in the E-Man universe of niceness just ba=
rely.=20
>=20
> The Rog-2000 story was a nice little romp with Byrne offering some proper=
ly gothic touches. Putting the gleaming Rog in the old dump of a hotel crea=
ted some real contrasts in tone which served the story exceedingly well. We=
 all know that Rog will prevail in the end, though we don't see it. This wi=
llingness to trust the audience's instincts about how these types of storie=
s work is key.
>=20
> Two other things that helped make this a fanboy object of desire are the =
knowing nods to other Charlton publications. For the first time we learn th=
at Nova attends or at least uses the library at Xanadu University, home of =
"The Midnight Philosopher" Professor Coffin and the lovely Arachne. Wayne H=
oward's Midnight Tales was running at this same time and often featured wor=
k by Nick Cuti and Joe Staton. This hint of a larger Charlton universe was =
cleverly done here without drawing such attention that if you didn't know i=
t bothered you.=20
>=20
> Also vintage Charlton and movie character Konga gets a callback. Now admi=
ttedly the Konga as drawn by Joe Staton is not all that much like the class=
ic giant ape from Charlton's old comics nor the movie they're inspired by, =
but it's enough for me that the name gets used. Cool beans.=20=20
>=20
> Next time we find E-Man and Nova in a full-blown full-length epic and som=
e big big changes are coming for the lovely Ms.Kane.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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E-Man Volume 3, Number 8 is dated May, 1975. It was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc, and the editor is George Wildman. The cover was painted by=
 Joe Staton.=20

"The Inner Sun" was written by Nicola Cuti, drawn by Joe Staton with colors=
 by Wendy Fiore. The story begins after midnight when two policeman on patr=
ol (who disregard Plastic Man making a cameo and waving at them from the si=
dewalk) get a report of a disturbance at the seemingly abandoned Boar Elect=
ronics Company. The encounter a giant blonde woman dressed in animal hide w=
ho attacks them and escapes. The scene shifts to a Michael Mauser's office =
where he is teaching Alec (E-Man) Tronn to play poker. Nova arrives and is =
upset that Mauser is corrupting her naive thousands-of years-old boyfriend.=
 Despite changing to Charlie Chan, E-Man is snagged by his irritated other.=
 Then the giant woman appears in Mauser's door, says his name and collapses=
. The woman is taken to the couch and mutters words about the North Pole an=
d the name "Boar". E-Man immediately realizes this is Samuel Boar and learn=
s from Mauser that Boar had escaped prison three months earlier. Leaving No=
va and Mauser to tend to the giant woman E-Man uses radio waves and specifi=
cally the ham radio set of kid Clifford Bailey to get to the North Pole qui=
ckly. He encounters at the Pole a rough looking customer named Alfie Alcott=
 and his pet Teddy a Koala, since both of them are from Australia. It turns=
 out though that Alcott works for Boar who suddenly appears along with his =
new improved and larger Battery.=20

Part II begins with a battle between the Battery and E-Man with the latter =
ultimately gettting sucked into the Battery's headpiece storage unit. The B=
oar, Alcott, the Battery with E-Man and Teddy get into a flying snowcat and=
 head to a vast cavern which leads to the center of the Earth. They descend=
 into the cavern and ultimately emerge in the land of Nuclia a sprawling te=
rritory where dinosaurs still thrive and roam alongside many mammal species=
 including man. The Battery releases E-Man and they group head to a native =
village of giant people led by Kotulka who immediately asks about his daugh=
ter. Boar threatens her life if the chief interferes with his plans to gath=
er resources from Nuclia. Specifically Nuclia is given its warmth and energ=
y by a great glowing sunlike globe atop the most prominent mountain. Boar w=
ants E-Man to package this globe so that Boar can take it and its power bac=
k to the top. But a Tyranosaurus Rex suddenly attacks and while the Battery=
 defends them by sucking in the entirety of the great beast, E-Man slips aw=
ay and hides pretending to be a small grass-eating dinosaur.=20

Part III takes us back to New York City where Nova and Mauser are teaching =
poker to  Rega, the giant girl. They need some vittles so Nova goes out and=
 meets up with men pretending to be FBI agents. While running from them she=
 encounters the seemingly friendly figure of Alfie Alcott. A quick cut take=
s us forward in time and back to Nuclia where Nova finds herself tied betwe=
en to large stone pillars in front of the Nuclia "sun". She is being held h=
ostage threatened by the "sun" which might erupt any moment to lure E-Man b=
ack. He does appear but before he can free her the Nuclia "sun" does erupt =
and for several moments it appears that Nova has been killed. Actually her =
atoms have been dispersed and further she has become in many ways like E-Ma=
n himself an energy creature who can reassemble into various types of matte=
r. She at first speaks then reassembles herself in a really attractive and =
brief version of E-Man's costume and makes her big debut. The two partners =
then go to stop Boar and get to the native village by turning their feet in=
to rockets. At the village Rega has been returned and they speak of a proph=
ecy of two firey angels who will save the vilage when suddenly E-Man and No=
va descend from the sky to engage the Battery in battle. The Battery catche=
s hold of the over-eager Nova but is crushed by E-Man who descend upon him =
in the shape of a massive stone. Boar gives up quickly and the scene shifts=
 back to New York City where he and Alcott are being turned over to the pol=
ice. Teddy  the Koala looks on as Nova gives E-Man a kiss which results in =
large mushroom cloud ascending over the cityscape.=20

"E-Mail" offers up three letters from fans, all of them complimentary to th=
e story in issue five "The City Swallower" in particular and the series as =
a whole in general.=20

The story was reprinted in 1986 by First Comics.=20

This is the only full-length E-Man feature in the Charlton run. It's got a =
sprawling story suitable for its larger scope and a broad cast of character=
s.=20

The introduction of Nuclia creates an vibrant sci-fi environment that can y=
ield a lot of stories if the series had gone forward. Nuclia follows in the=
 tradition of underground worlds and seems very reminiscent to me of Edgar =
Rice Burroughs' Pellucidar which was introduced in the novel "At the Earth'=
s Core".=20

The change to Nova was apparently a bid by Cuti and Staton to drive up sale=
s on the series which were lagging. The experiment to re-introduce superher=
oes to Charlton had garnered strong fanboy support but overall was failing =
to reap the kinds of sales needed to allow the project to thrive. So change=
s were made both the cast, in this case making Nova Kane a superhero, and b=
y adding to it.=20

Teddy is an attempt to add more humor to the comic and also respond to the =
reader interest in the Bools which were little other-dimensional critters i=
n a previous story. Teddy gives the series a furry mascot, but one with an =
ironic sense for sure.=20

Mike "Don't Call Me Mickey" Mauser's role in the story is odd, since clearl=
y Rega is recaptured but we don't see it, nor is it referenced. Mauser is a=
bout to be spun off into his own series and maybe this appearance is just a=
n attempt to remind readers about the irascible gumshoe.

One nitpick I've noticed in the series this time, is that although in the d=
ebut issue the energy packet that became E-Man was said to have been trolli=
ng across the universe for millions of years, Cuti quickly in subsequent is=
sues says that E-Man's age is in the thousands of years. I prefer the forme=
r, and I don't really understand why it was changed.=20

The cast though is nigh well complete, but then came a Dove. We'll give pea=
ce a chance  next time.=20=20

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Thanks Mike. I agree that it's past time for a new story somewhere. Maybe w=
ith the reprint from First coming out (got one ordered) that will spark a f=
ew new stories. I'm always eager for new stuff from Nick and Joe.=20

I'm currently working up a series of reports on Yang too. This is a series =
I haven't read in ages.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Rip, I for one enjoy your E-Man reports and wanted to thank you for posti=
ng them! It's a real trip down memory lane. Say, isn't about time we saw so=
me new E-Man comics someplace??
>=20
> -Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > E-Man Volume 3, Number 7 is dated March, 1975 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. Joe Staton painted the=
 cover.=20
> >=20
> > "TV Man" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti with art by Joe Staton and c=
olors by Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where Nova Kane is d=
ancing in all her glory. After the show she turns down an invitation from R=
osie Redd and her father (the Toyman from last issue) to go on a date with =
Alec Tronn to a philosophy lecture. When Rosie leaves the E-Man poster on N=
ova's dressing room wall turns into E-Man himself. When they go to retrieve=
 the poster he took down to make his surprise entrance he and Nova are both=
 shocked to find a note which reads "You are doomed to die Ms.Kane. Yours T=
ruly, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova up, but she is eager to get o=
n with her date with E-Man. As they walk down the street, E-Man undergoes a=
 transformation becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference, specifically=
 a hatchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she flees and as she screa=
ms he changes back with no seeming memory of the event. Nova punches him.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts to a rooftop where a hooded super-villain type dials u=
p another television show to use to transform E-Man as he has done all even=
ing. The next horror film the mysterious villain finds is "The Brain Eater =
from Planet X" and with that dialed in he beams at E-Man who transforms int=
o the TV monster and again threatens Nova. But the villain is not done with=
 his fun yet and stops before she is hurt. The villain then goes back to hi=
s meager apartment and proclaims his revenge some more.=20
> >=20
> > Part II "The Duel" picks up the story about a week later and E-Man has =
been missing. Michael "Mickey" Mauser a private detective is walking down t=
he street and not looking for our hero because no one is paying him to do s=
o. At his office the villain who dubs himself "TV" says that Mauser must fi=
nd E-Man and bring him to Rockefeller Plaza the next day, and he gets Mause=
r to comply by making him an offer he cannot refuse.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts to Xanadu University and specifically the library wher=
e Nova expresses her wish to find E-Man to her friend Arachne. (Arachne is =
the niece of Professor Cyrus Coffin who also makes a cameo and together the=
y are the hosts of Charlton's Midnight Tales.) Juno of the Entropy Twins ap=
pears and announces to Nova that her partner Michael is the mysterious vill=
ain and he is using his scientific know-how to gain revenge on E-Man for ma=
king it so that Juno and Michael cannot be in each others' presence. She ag=
rees to take Nova to the showdown.
> >=20
> > At Rockefeller Plaza Mauser leaves E-Man, who seems to have found with =
little difficulty, and "TV" or Michael unleashes his weapon which transform=
s E-Man into a version of the giant ape Konga. E-Konga goes on a quick ramp=
age and finds Nova and snatches her up in his giant hand. He then does what=
 all giant apes do and climbs to the top of the Empire State Building where=
 jets appear in the sky to defeat the threat. But Juno is able from a dista=
nce to finally reason with the distraught Michael and at the last moment he=
 snaps off his TV beam and E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing=
 into nothing. Everyone now safe E-Man accepts Michael's apology and announ=
ces he will change the couple back the way they were before so they can be =
together again.
> >=20
> > "E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment, all positive. One wishes t=
o announce an E-Man fan club, another talks about getting his most recent c=
opy at a comics convention, and Bob Rodi, the third writer and veteran LoC =
man praises the comic and hopes the title reaches the stature of Superman a=
nd Spider-Man.=20
> >=20
> > Rog-2000 shows up again in the tale "Withering Heights" written by Nico=
la Cuti and drawn by John Byrne. The story begins as Rog is lost in the cou=
ntry and his cab (which must be called the "Enterprise"...check out that li=
cense plate) runs out of gas. He walks up to a rundown hotel where he asks =
the beautiful girl named Zenia for some gas. While there he meets two smug =
guests, a man named Dinsmore and a woman named Boombat.  After getting some=
 gas Rog hears a noise and rushes into the hotel and he and Zenia discover =
that old lady Boombat has been attacked and they see her being dragged into=
 her closet but no trace can be found after. Next they find old man Dinsmoo=
re in the same shape. Rog agrees to stay the night but soon finds himself u=
nder attack by a huge transparent blob which he uses his borrowed gas to bu=
rn as well as the rest of the hotel. As the hotel crumbles to the ground Ro=
g wonders out loud by Zenia had never been attacked as she begins to transf=
orm becoming transparent and announces that her Daddy would never attack hi=
s child. Rog realizes he's in trouble.=20
> >=20
> > The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in 1985 and the Rog-2000 =
story was reprinted by Pacific Comics in 1982.=20
> >=20
> > This is a solid issue of E-Man and calls back some dandy characters fro=
m early in the series. It's a clever story that takes full advantage of E-M=
an's peculiar nature to create some wild visuals of him in monster forms. I=
t was very neat to see Michael Mauser back, his role small but crucial. One=
 criticism possibly is that Michael's return to sanity was a bit abrupt and=
 difficult to swallow, but it works in the E-Man universe of niceness just =
barely.=20
> >=20
> > The Rog-2000 story was a nice little romp with Byrne offering some prop=
erly gothic touches. Putting the gleaming Rog in the old dump of a hotel cr=
eated some real contrasts in tone which served the story exceedingly well. =
We all know that Rog will prevail in the end, though we don't see it. This =
willingness to trust the audience's instincts about how these types of stor=
ies work is key.
> >=20
> > Two other things that helped make this a fanboy object of desire are th=
e knowing nods to other Charlton publications. For the first time we learn =
that Nova attends or at least uses the library at Xanadu University, home o=
f "The Midnight Philosopher" Professor Coffin and the lovely Arachne. Wayne=
 Howard's Midnight Tales was running at this same time and often featured w=
ork by Nick Cuti and Joe Staton. This hint of a larger Charlton universe wa=
s cleverly done here without drawing such attention that if you didn't know=
 it bothered you.=20
> >=20
> > Also vintage Charlton and movie character Konga gets a callback. Now ad=
mittedly the Konga as drawn by Joe Staton is not all that much like the cla=
ssic giant ape from Charlton's old comics nor the movie they're inspired by=
, but it's enough for me that the name gets used. Cool beans.=20=20
> >=20
> > Next time we find E-Man and Nova in a full-blown full-length epic and s=
ome big big changes are coming for the lovely Ms.Kane.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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Subject: Charlton Spotlight #7
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Mike -

Your note reminded me to order the latest issue of Charlton Spotlight. I re=
commend it to everyone interested in Charlton Comics.=20

Here's the address.

http://charltonspotlight.net/

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Rip, I for one enjoy your E-Man reports and wanted to thank you for posti=
ng them! It's a real trip down memory lane. Say, isn't about time we saw so=
me new E-Man comics someplace??
>=20
> -Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > E-Man Volume 3, Number 7 is dated March, 1975 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. Joe Staton painted the=
 cover.=20
> >=20
> > "TV Man" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti with art by Joe Staton and c=
olors by Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where Nova Kane is d=
ancing in all her glory. After the show she turns down an invitation from R=
osie Redd and her father (the Toyman from last issue) to go on a date with =
Alec Tronn to a philosophy lecture. When Rosie leaves the E-Man poster on N=
ova's dressing room wall turns into E-Man himself. When they go to retrieve=
 the poster he took down to make his surprise entrance he and Nova are both=
 shocked to find a note which reads "You are doomed to die Ms.Kane. Yours T=
ruly, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova up, but she is eager to get o=
n with her date with E-Man. As they walk down the street, E-Man undergoes a=
 transformation becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference, specifically=
 a hatchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she flees and as she screa=
ms he changes back with no seeming memory of the event. Nova punches him.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts to a rooftop where a hooded super-villain type dials u=
p another television show to use to transform E-Man as he has done all even=
ing. The next horror film the mysterious villain finds is "The Brain Eater =
from Planet X" and with that dialed in he beams at E-Man who transforms int=
o the TV monster and again threatens Nova. But the villain is not done with=
 his fun yet and stops before she is hurt. The villain then goes back to hi=
s meager apartment and proclaims his revenge some more.=20
> >=20
> > Part II "The Duel" picks up the story about a week later and E-Man has =
been missing. Michael "Mickey" Mauser a private detective is walking down t=
he street and not looking for our hero because no one is paying him to do s=
o. At his office the villain who dubs himself "TV" says that Mauser must fi=
nd E-Man and bring him to Rockefeller Plaza the next day, and he gets Mause=
r to comply by making him an offer he cannot refuse.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts to Xanadu University and specifically the library wher=
e Nova expresses her wish to find E-Man to her friend Arachne. (Arachne is =
the niece of Professor Cyrus Coffin who also makes a cameo and together the=
y are the hosts of Charlton's Midnight Tales.) Juno of the Entropy Twins ap=
pears and announces to Nova that her partner Michael is the mysterious vill=
ain and he is using his scientific know-how to gain revenge on E-Man for ma=
king it so that Juno and Michael cannot be in each others' presence. She ag=
rees to take Nova to the showdown.
> >=20
> > At Rockefeller Plaza Mauser leaves E-Man, who seems to have found with =
little difficulty, and "TV" or Michael unleashes his weapon which transform=
s E-Man into a version of the giant ape Konga. E-Konga goes on a quick ramp=
age and finds Nova and snatches her up in his giant hand. He then does what=
 all giant apes do and climbs to the top of the Empire State Building where=
 jets appear in the sky to defeat the threat. But Juno is able from a dista=
nce to finally reason with the distraught Michael and at the last moment he=
 snaps off his TV beam and E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing=
 into nothing. Everyone now safe E-Man accepts Michael's apology and announ=
ces he will change the couple back the way they were before so they can be =
together again.
> >=20
> > "E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment, all positive. One wishes t=
o announce an E-Man fan club, another talks about getting his most recent c=
opy at a comics convention, and Bob Rodi, the third writer and veteran LoC =
man praises the comic and hopes the title reaches the stature of Superman a=
nd Spider-Man.=20
> >=20
> > Rog-2000 shows up again in the tale "Withering Heights" written by Nico=
la Cuti and drawn by John Byrne. The story begins as Rog is lost in the cou=
ntry and his cab (which must be called the "Enterprise"...check out that li=
cense plate) runs out of gas. He walks up to a rundown hotel where he asks =
the beautiful girl named Zenia for some gas. While there he meets two smug =
guests, a man named Dinsmore and a woman named Boombat.  After getting some=
 gas Rog hears a noise and rushes into the hotel and he and Zenia discover =
that old lady Boombat has been attacked and they see her being dragged into=
 her closet but no trace can be found after. Next they find old man Dinsmoo=
re in the same shape. Rog agrees to stay the night but soon finds himself u=
nder attack by a huge transparent blob which he uses his borrowed gas to bu=
rn as well as the rest of the hotel. As the hotel crumbles to the ground Ro=
g wonders out loud by Zenia had never been attacked as she begins to transf=
orm becoming transparent and announces that her Daddy would never attack hi=
s child. Rog realizes he's in trouble.=20
> >=20
> > The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in 1985 and the Rog-2000 =
story was reprinted by Pacific Comics in 1982.=20
> >=20
> > This is a solid issue of E-Man and calls back some dandy characters fro=
m early in the series. It's a clever story that takes full advantage of E-M=
an's peculiar nature to create some wild visuals of him in monster forms. I=
t was very neat to see Michael Mauser back, his role small but crucial. One=
 criticism possibly is that Michael's return to sanity was a bit abrupt and=
 difficult to swallow, but it works in the E-Man universe of niceness just =
barely.=20
> >=20
> > The Rog-2000 story was a nice little romp with Byrne offering some prop=
erly gothic touches. Putting the gleaming Rog in the old dump of a hotel cr=
eated some real contrasts in tone which served the story exceedingly well. =
We all know that Rog will prevail in the end, though we don't see it. This =
willingness to trust the audience's instincts about how these types of stor=
ies work is key.
> >=20
> > Two other things that helped make this a fanboy object of desire are th=
e knowing nods to other Charlton publications. For the first time we learn =
that Nova attends or at least uses the library at Xanadu University, home o=
f "The Midnight Philosopher" Professor Coffin and the lovely Arachne. Wayne=
 Howard's Midnight Tales was running at this same time and often featured w=
ork by Nick Cuti and Joe Staton. This hint of a larger Charlton universe wa=
s cleverly done here without drawing such attention that if you didn't know=
 it bothered you.=20
> >=20
> > Also vintage Charlton and movie character Konga gets a callback. Now ad=
mittedly the Konga as drawn by Joe Staton is not all that much like the cla=
ssic giant ape from Charlton's old comics nor the movie they're inspired by=
, but it's enough for me that the name gets used. Cool beans.=20=20
> >=20
> > Next time we find E-Man and Nova in a full-blown full-length epic and s=
ome big big changes are coming for the lovely Ms.Kane.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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E-Man Volume 3, Number 9 is dated July, 1975. It was published by Charlton =
Publications, Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was painted by J=
oe Staton.=20

"Prologue! History of E-Man and Nova" is a one page retelling of the backgr=
ounds and origins of E-Man and Nova. E-Man is a thousands of years old sent=
ient packet of energy from the stars who came to Earth and has become a sup=
erhero and Nova Kane is his girlfriend a burlesque queen who was exploded t=
o atoms but reformed with identical powers as her boyfriend.=20

"The Genius Plant" was written by Nicola Cuti with art by Joe Staton, and c=
olors by Wendy Fiore. The story begins on a local baseball field where afte=
r a game Nova rushes to giver her boyfriend E-Man a kiss since she believes=
 he was playing first base. But it's a stranger she kisses as E-Man literal=
ly changes from being the actual first base. The couple walk down the stree=
t and take note of an election sign for "Ron Davis" who they think looks li=
ke Professor Wright of Xanadu University, but on second look they decide it=
 is merely the pronounced high forehead that makes them think so. Teddy is =
having fun with the local dogs.=20

Nova then goes to interview Wright for the Xanadu Gazette while E-Man goes =
to join Mike Mauser in an investigation. Nova finds Professor Wright afraid=
 of someone he called "Genius One" and suddenly the Professor undergoes a t=
ransformation as his large cranium shrinks to a more normal size and his in=
telligence seems to suffer as well. Then a flying robot breaks through the =
window and kills Professor Wright. Nova blasts the robot and dons her comba=
t costume. Walking outside she is stalked by another robot but E-Man disgui=
sed as a lamppost blasts it. Mauser is nearby hiding in a trashcan. Profess=
or Wright had been part of their investigation.=20

Back at Mauser's office he explains the case concerning a large group of hi=
ghly placed genius types with giant craniums who have come under suspicion.=
 Then General Dove shows up and reveals that through Professor Wright they =
have learned that these geniuses seem to have a base in on an isolated isla=
nd. He recruits E-Man and Nova to infiltrate the island base and report bac=
k.=20

Part II begins with E-Man and Nova going undercover and underwater disguise=
d as dolphins and later taking flight as birds. They discover a field of pe=
culiar plants being guarded by robots and they come under attack, specifica=
lly they are captured in giant bubbles and taken to through the complex fil=
led with giant-headed people to the office of Genius One, the leader of the=
 group. His name is Carl Metz and he and Professor Wright discovered a plan=
t which when eaten increased brain power and eventually brain size. Recruit=
ing students and feeding them the brain food, Metz eventually left behind h=
is reluctant partner and established his island base from which they plan t=
o use the plants to transform mankind and the world, making it a paradise G=
enius One will control.=20

Nova and E-Man escape and flee through the complex when Nova has the idea f=
or them to go inside the computers where she increases the plant food sched=
ule making the peculiar plants explode. Deprived of their brainpower source=
 the island of geniuses and Genius One in particular begin to lose their ed=
ge. The island comes under attack led by General Dove but when the forces b=
reak into Genius One's office he has suffered a dramatic loss of his brainp=
ower and his brain size, in fact he is dumber than he was originally. Retur=
ning home Nova finds Teddy reading a magazine and suspects he's eaten some =
of the brainpower plant but it turns out to be E-Man playing a prank on his=
 partner.=20

"E-Mail" offers up only a single letter of comment this time, a detailed pa=
nel by panel analysis of the sixth issue. Again the writer makes the mistak=
e that "Nicola" must be a woman though.=20

Rog-2000 returns in a story titled "The Wish" written by Nicola Cuti and dr=
awn by John Byrne. The story begins with Rog in his cab seeing a little old=
 lady being mugged. He rushes to defeat the muggers and the lady turns out =
to be a witch who offers him one wish. He disbelieves her and takes the thu=
gs to the cops. But the lady thinking she knows what he'd have wished for c=
hanges Rog into a human being. At the police station he suddenly is unknown=
 and scoffed at by the police. Distraught he takes to the streets but is mi=
staken for a criminal named "Duck" Griffin by two hoodlums who want to kill=
 Griffin. They yell "Duck" before they shoot, but Rog thinks that's an inst=
ruction and follows suit saving him from the bullets. He runs to escape the=
 killers and gets on a local subway train where he finds the witch. He dema=
nds she change him back which she does and the constituted Rog-2000 quickly=
 disptaches the two killers. The witch asks Rog what is wish is since he st=
ill has one coming to him, and we next see her standing standing between tw=
o devils in a rather hellish landscape.=20=20=20

The complete comic was reprinted in 1977 under the Modern Comics label. The=
 E-Man story was reprinted in 1986 by First Comics and the Rog-2000 story w=
as reprinted in 1982 by Pacific Comics.=20

This is decent solid E-Man adventure. E-Man and Nova interact very neatly i=
n their first true case together with Nova already showing that her wits ar=
e still arguably her greatest asset. Giving her superpowers was an attempt =
to inject some juice into the lagging series, and it does so. I'm not sure =
if I prefer old regular human Nova or the more super-duper one, but regardl=
ess Cuti does a fantastic job with characterization so she's recognizably t=
he same.=20

General Dove is a fun looking character, and according to interviews he was=
 based on a Herb Trimpe character in the Hulk. I can only imagine that was =
Colonel Armbruster who apppeared in some Hulk stories about this same time.=
 The two military men do look similar.

Once again Mike Mauser shows up at the beginning of an adventure then disap=
pears at its conclusion. But as it turns out he does have something to do. =
=20

This is a interesting month at Charlton. E-Man gets its first spin-off seri=
es as Michael Mauser is given a back-up slot in the new comic Vengeance Squ=
ad.=20

The first story is titled "The Inheritance" and was written by Nicola Cuti =
and drawn by Joe Staton, and focuses on Mauser's noir aspects. No other mem=
bers of the E-Man cast appear in this initial story, though Rosie Redd will=
 ultimately appear. Likely I will be doing a series of reports on this seri=
es soon.=20

Next time we wrap up the regular run of the series with a glimpse into E-Ma=
n's rustic past.=20=20

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Subject: NOTE TO  Mike Ambrose: Bob Layton's late, lamented CPL = Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine = newly released facts, by Phil Latter
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I mention this only because Bob Layton and Roger Stern's vintage, rare fanz=
ine "CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature" is often considered closely=
 related to Charlton Comics, in terms of content.=20

Recently, I purchased the extremely rare CPL # 2 and # 3. These are from th=
e early 1970's. I've been trying to put a complete set of these together fo=
r literally decades. They are rarer than hen's teeth!

I now need only # 1 to complete the set. I own originals of # 2 through # 1=
2, the final issue.=20

John Byrne drew a huge Doctor Doom illustration for CPL # 13, in the 1970's=
, but CPL # 13 never, ever came out, though planned. Recently, a comics fan=
 of original art purchased that original pen and ink illustration of Doctor=
 Doom, planned for the never published CPL # 13, for $3,000.00

He asked me what issue of CPL it was in. CPL # 12 has a column by John Byrn=
e, stating that CPL # 13 would be about Doctor Doom. This is how I know wha=
t issue of CPL this John Byrne original, still never published art, had bee=
n scheduled for. This buyer of the original art sent me a scan of it. It is=
 a beaut-!

No less than Bob Layton himself, confirmed to me that yes, that art had bee=
n scheduled for CPL # 13. He commisssioned it from John Byrne, and then, CP=
L # 13 never came out! I am currently interviewing Bob Layton for www.first=
comics.news , so you will all see this art, with that interview, once it ap=
pears! I'll post a link to the interview, right here!

And CPL, of course, was the predecessor of The Charlton Bullseye prozine/-f=
anzine, which, among other firsts, published the previously UNpublished Ste=
ve Ditko illustrated Blue Beetle # 6 for the only time anywhere, as well as=
 the (published in two parts) Captain Atom # 89 and # 90, which was commiss=
ioned, written and illustrated by Steve Ditko (pencilled0, and later illust=
rated after the fact, by John Byrne!

Mike Ambrose, is this info of interest to your Charlton Spotlight?

I'm thinking we could print this info (and the Doctor Doom art) by John Byr=
ne, in Charlton Spotlight. As I say, CPL was the predecessor to THE CHARLTO=
N BULLSEYE pro-fanzine, and Bob Layton and Roger Stern were behind that 6 i=
ssue effort, also!

Cheers!

Phil Latter
for First Comics News!

Phil Latter

--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The E-Man Reports #7
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 5:41 AM
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>       Thanks Mike. I agree that it's past time for a
> new story somewhere. Maybe with the reprint from First
> coming out (got one ordered) that will spark a few new
> stories. I'm always eager for new stuff from Nick and
> Joe.=20
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> I'm currently working up a series of reports on Yang
> too. This is a series I haven't read in ages.=20
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> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com,
> "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
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> > Rip, I for one enjoy your E-Man reports and wanted to
> thank you for posting them! It's a real trip down memory
> lane. Say, isn't about time we saw some new E-Man comics
> someplace??
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> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com,
> "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
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> > > E-Man Volume 3, Number 7 is dated March, 1975 and
> was published by Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is
> George Wildman. Joe Staton painted the cover.=20
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> > > "TV Man" was written by Nicola
> "Nick" Cuti with art by Joe Staton and colors by
> Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where Nova
> Kane is dancing in all her glory. After the show she turns
> down an invitation from Rosie Redd and her father (the
> Toyman from last issue) to go on a date with Alec Tronn to a
> philosophy lecture. When Rosie leaves the E-Man poster on
> Nova's dressing room wall turns into E-Man himself. When
> they go to retrieve the poster he took down to make his
> surprise entrance he and Nova are both shocked to find a
> note which reads "You are doomed to die Ms.Kane. Yours
> Truly, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova up, but
> she is eager to get on with her date with E-Man. As they
> walk down the street, E-Man undergoes a transformation
> becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference, specifically
> a hatchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she flees
> and as she screams he changes back with no seeming memory of
> the event. Nova punches him.=20
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> > > The scene shifts to a rooftop where a hooded
> super-villain type dials up another television show to use
> to transform E-Man as he has done all evening. The next
> horror film the mysterious villain finds is "The Brain
> Eater from Planet X" and with that dialed in he beams
> at E-Man who transforms into the TV monster and again
> threatens Nova. But the villain is not done with his fun yet
> and stops before she is hurt. The villain then goes back to
> his meager apartment and proclaims his revenge some more.=20
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> > > Part II "The Duel" picks up the story
> about a week later and E-Man has been missing. Michael
> "Mickey" Mauser a private detective is walking
> down the street and not looking for our hero because no one
> is paying him to do so. At his office the villain who dubs
> himself "TV" says that Mauser must find E-Man and
> bring him to Rockefeller Plaza the next day, and he gets
> Mauser to comply by making him an offer he cannot refuse.=20
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> > > The scene shifts to Xanadu University and
> specifically the library where Nova expresses her wish to
> find E-Man to her friend Arachne. (Arachne is the niece of
> Professor Cyrus Coffin who also makes a cameo and together
> they are the hosts of Charlton's Midnight Tales.) Juno
> of the Entropy Twins appears and announces to Nova that her
> partner Michael is the mysterious villain and he is using
> his scientific know-how to gain revenge on E-Man for making
> it so that Juno and Michael cannot be in each others'
> presence. She agrees to take Nova to the showdown.
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> seems to have found with little difficulty, and
> "TV" or Michael unleashes his weapon which
> transforms E-Man into a version of the giant ape Konga.
> E-Konga goes on a quick rampage and finds Nova and snatches
> her up in his giant hand. He then does what all giant apes
> do and climbs to the top of the Empire State Building where
> jets appear in the sky to defeat the threat. But Juno is
> able from a distance to finally reason with the distraught
> Michael and at the last moment he snaps off his TV beam and
> E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing into
> nothing. Everyone now safe E-Man accepts Michael's
> apology and announces he will change the couple back the way
> they were before so they can be together again.
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> comment, all positive. One wishes to announce an E-Man fan
> club, another talks about getting his most recent copy at a
> comics convention, and Bob Rodi, the third writer and
> veteran LoC man praises the comic and hopes the title
> reaches the stature of Superman and Spider-Man.=20
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> > > Rog-2000 shows up again in the tale
> "Withering Heights" written by Nicola Cuti and
> drawn by John Byrne. The story begins as Rog is lost in the
> country and his cab (which must be called the
> "Enterprise"...check out that license plate) runs
> out of gas. He walks up to a rundown hotel where he asks the
> beautiful girl named Zenia for some gas. While there he
> meets two smug guests, a man named Dinsmore and a woman
> named Boombat.  After getting some gas Rog hears a noise and
> rushes into the hotel and he and Zenia discover that old
> lady Boombat has been attacked and they see her being
> dragged into her closet but no trace can be found after.
> Next they find old man Dinsmoore in the same shape. Rog
> agrees to stay the night but soon finds himself under attack
> by a huge transparent blob which he uses his borrowed gas to
> burn as well as the rest of the hotel. As the hotel crumbles
> to the ground Rog wonders out loud by Zenia had never been
> attacked as she begins to transform becoming transparent and
> announces that her Daddy would never attack his child. Rog
> realizes he's in trouble.=20
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> > > The E-Man story was reprinted by First Comics in
> 1985 and the Rog-2000 story was reprinted by Pacific Comics
> in 1982.=20
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> > > This is a solid issue of E-Man and calls back
> some dandy characters from early in the series. It's a
> clever story that takes full advantage of E-Man's
> peculiar nature to create some wild visuals of him in
> monster forms. It was very neat to see Michael Mauser back,
> his role small but crucial. One criticism possibly is that
> Michael's return to sanity was a bit abrupt and
> difficult to swallow, but it works in the E-Man universe of
> niceness just barely.=20
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> > > The Rog-2000 story was a nice little romp with
> Byrne offering some properly gothic touches. Putting the
> gleaming Rog in the old dump of a hotel created some real
> contrasts in tone which served the story exceedingly well.
> We all know that Rog will prevail in the end, though we
> don't see it. This willingness to trust the
> audience's instincts about how these types of stories
> work is key.
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> > > Two other things that helped make this a fanboy
> object of desire are the knowing nods to other Charlton
> publications. For the first time we learn that Nova attends
> or at least uses the library at Xanadu University, home of
> "The Midnight Philosopher" Professor Coffin and
> the lovely Arachne. Wayne Howard's Midnight Tales was
> running at this same time and often featured work by Nick
> Cuti and Joe Staton. This hint of a larger Charlton universe
> was cleverly done here without drawing such attention that
> if you didn't know it bothered you.=20
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> > >=20
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> > > Also vintage Charlton and movie character Konga
> gets a callback. Now admittedly the Konga as drawn by Joe
> Staton is not all that much like the classic giant ape from
> Charlton's old comics nor the movie they're inspired
> by, but it's enough for me that the name gets used. Cool
> beans.=20=20
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> > > Next time we find E-Man and Nova in a full-blown
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> lovely Ms.Kane.=20
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Subject: Re: [johnstonmcculleyzorro] NOTE TO  Mike Ambrose: Bob Layton's late, lamented CPL = Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine = newly released facts, by Phil Latter
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Note to all: I gave the wrote url web address for First Comics News, below,=
 in my previous post.
The correct url is www.firstcomicsnews.com

-Phil Latter
For First Comics News.com

--- On Sun, 9/18/11, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [johnstonmcculleyzorro] NOTE TO  Mike Ambrose: Bob Layton's late=
, lamented CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine =3D newly rele=
ased facts, by Phil Latter
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: canadiancomics@yahoogroups.com, johnstonmcculleyzorro@yahoogroups.com=
, charlton-1@yahoogroups.com, charlton1@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, September 18, 2011, 1:41 PM
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>       I mention this only because Bob Layton and Roger
> Stern's vintage, rare fanzine "CPL =3D Contemporary
> Pictorial Literature" is often considered closely
> related to Charlton Comics, in terms of content.=20
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> Recently, I purchased the extremely rare CPL # 2 and # 3.
> These are from the early 1970's. I've been trying to
> put a complete set of these together for literally decades.
> They are rarer than hen's teeth!
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> I now need only # 1 to complete the set. I own originals of
> # 2 through # 12, the final issue.=20
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> John Byrne drew a huge Doctor Doom illustration for CPL #
> 13, in the 1970's, but CPL # 13 never, ever came out,
> though planned. Recently, a comics fan of original art
> purchased that original pen and ink illustration of Doctor
> Doom, planned for the never published CPL # 13, for
> $3,000.00
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> He asked me what issue of CPL it was in. CPL # 12 has a
> column by John Byrne, stating that CPL # 13 would be about
> Doctor Doom. This is how I know what issue of CPL this John
> Byrne original, still never published art, had been
> scheduled for. This buyer of the original art sent me a scan
> of it. It is a beaut-!
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> No less than Bob Layton himself, confirmed to me that yes,
> that art had been scheduled for CPL # 13. He commisssioned
> it from John Byrne, and then, CPL # 13 never came out! I am
> currently interviewing Bob Layton for www.firstcomics.news ,
> so you will all see this art, with that interview, once it
> appears! I'll post a link to the interview, right here!
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> And CPL, of course, was the predecessor of The Charlton
> Bullseye prozine/-fanzine, which, among other firsts,
> published the previously UNpublished Steve Ditko illustrated
> Blue Beetle # 6 for the only time anywhere, as well as the
> (published in two parts) Captain Atom # 89 and # 90, which
> was commissioned, written and illustrated by Steve Ditko
> (pencilled0, and later illustrated after the fact, by John
> Byrne!
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> Mike Ambrose, is this info of interest to your Charlton
> Spotlight?
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> Doom art) by John Byrne, in Charlton Spotlight. As I say,
> CPL was the predecessor to THE CHARLTON BULLSEYE
> pro-fanzine, and Bob Layton and Roger Stern were behind that
> 6 issue effort, also!
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> Cheers!
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> --- On Sat, 9/17/11, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The E-Man Reports #7
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> wanted to
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> memory
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> comics
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> 1975 and
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> is
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> > > > "TV Man" was written by Nicola
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> > Wendy Fiore. The story begins in a night club where
> Nova
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> turns
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> (the
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> Tronn to a
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> on
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> himself. When
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> his
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> a
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> Yours
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> > Truly, Jack the Ripper". The prank shakes Nova
> up, but
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> they
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> transformation
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> > becoming Mr.Edward Hyde but with a difference,
> specifically
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> > a hatchet formed from his hand. He cuts Nova as she
> flees
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> memory of
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> hooded
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> use
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> next
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> Brain
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> > Eater from Planet X" and with that dialed in he
> beams
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> > at E-Man who transforms into the TV monster and again
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> fun yet
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> back to
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> story
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> Michael
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> walking
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> gets
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> using
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> making
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> Konga.
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> snatches
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> apes
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> where
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> is
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> distraught
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> beam and
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> > E-Man changes back just as the jets began firing into
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> Michael's
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> the way
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> back,
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> home of
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> and
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> was
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> universe
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> that
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> Joe
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> from
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> inspired
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Phil do you think that Bob would give permission to carry the scans of CPL? Could you ask him?
We would love to post these in the fanzine section at GAC. As you said they are very rare and this would probably be the only chance for fans to see them. I would appreciate it if you would ask. thanks Jim

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wr=
ote:
>
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> And CPL, of course, was the predecessor of The Charlton Bullseye prozine/=
-fanzine, which, among other firsts, published the previously UNpublished S=
teve Ditko illustrated Blue Beetle # 6 for the only time anywhere, as well =
as the (published in two parts) Captain Atom # 89 and # 90, which was commi=
ssioned, written and illustrated by Steve Ditko (pencilled0, and later illu=
strated after the fact, by John Byrne!
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> I'm thinking we could print this info (and the Doctor Doom art) by John B=
yrne, in Charlton Spotlight. As I say, CPL was the predecessor to THE CHARL=
TON BULLSEYE pro-fanzine, and Bob Layton and Roger Stern were behind that 6=
 issue effort, also!
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6 issue effort???

The Charlton Bullseye pro-fanzine only lasted for 5 issues.

The material planned for Blue Beetle #6 was published in a special double i=
ssue of CPL, #9/10.


Michael Brown


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From: Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: NOTE TO  Mike Ambrose: Bob Layton's late, lamented CPL = Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine = newly released facts, by Phil Latter
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Right you are, Mike. Five issues, not six issues of Charlton Bullseye the p=
rozine.

I have CPL # 2 through # 12, and Charlton Bullseye # 1 through # 5.

Phil

--- On Mon, 9/19/11, MichaelB <emb021@motorola.com> wrote:

> From: MichaelB <emb021@motorola.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: NOTE TO  Mike Ambrose: Bob Layton's late,=
 lamented CPL =3D Contemporary Pictorial Literature fanzine =3D newly relea=
sed facts, by Phil Latter
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:35 AM
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> Phil Latter <chromium_foil@...> wrote:
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> > And CPL, of course, was the predecessor of The
> Charlton Bullseye prozine/-fanzine, which, among other
> firsts, published the previously UNpublished Steve Ditko
> illustrated Blue Beetle # 6 for the only time anywhere, as
> well as the (published in two parts) Captain Atom # 89 and #
> 90, which was commissioned, written and illustrated by Steve
> Ditko (pencilled0, and later illustrated after the fact, by
> John Byrne!
>=20
> >=20
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> > I'm thinking we could print this info (and the
> Doctor Doom art) by John Byrne, in Charlton Spotlight. As I
> say, CPL was the predecessor to THE CHARLTON BULLSEYE
> pro-fanzine, and Bob Layton and Roger Stern were behind that
> 6 issue effort, also!
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> 6 issue effort???
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> The Charlton Bullseye pro-fanzine only lasted for 5
> issues.
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> The material planned for Blue Beetle #6 was published in a
> special double issue of CPL, #9/10.
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Sure,

Turning in now, but I will ask him tomorrow. I am interviewing him for www.=
firstcomicsnews.com

By the way, does anyone here own a copy of CPL # 1? I'd like to know, even =
if you have no interest in selling it. I am wondering what was on the cover=
....It's the only issue, now, of CPL that I don't own....

Thanks,

Phil

--- On Mon, 9/19/11, jimludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: jimludwig <jimludwig@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [johnstonmcculleyzorro] NOTE TO  Mike Amb=
rose: Bob Layton's late
> To: "CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com" <CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Monday, September 19, 2011, 6:45 AM
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>       Phil do you think that Bob would give permission
> to carry the scans of CPL? Could you ask him?
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> We would love to post these in the fanzine section at GAC.
> As you said they are very rare and this would probably be
> the only chance for fans to see them. I would appreciate it
> if you would ask. thanks Jim
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On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Phil Latter <chromium_foil@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> Sure,
>
> Turning in now, but I will ask him tomorrow. I am interviewing him for www.firstcomicsnews.com
>
> By the way, does anyone here own a copy of CPL # 1? I'd like to know, even if you have no interest in selling it. I am wondering what was on the cover....It's the only issue, now, of CPL that I don't own....

I don't have or have seen a copy, but isnt it supposed to be a sales list?

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Subject: CPL # 1
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Yep,
The first couple issues of CPL or more were sales lists of comics for sale,=
 with fan or pro art covers. Nonetheless, I'm VERY interested in acquiring =
CPL # 1 or even a photocopy, and would pay for the privilege....

Phil Latter

--- On Tue, 9/20/11, s r <sangorshop@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: s r <sangorshop@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: [johnstonmcculleyzorro] NOTE TO Mike =
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> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 5:34 PM
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E-Man Volume 3, Number 10 is dated September, 1975. It was published by Cha=
rlton Publications, Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was painte=
d by Joe Staton.=20

"The Witch of Hog Wallow" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti, drawn by Joe S=
taton with colors by Wendy Fiore. The story begins in the apartment of Nova=
 Kane and Alec (E-Man) Tronn when E-Man is reading a fairy tale to the unus=
ually intelligent koala bear Teddy. Nova bursts into the room and blasts E-=
Man angry and wanting to know why a beautiful blonde woman named Maisy-June=
 is wishing to come and visit her old friend. E-Man calms the jealous Nova =
by relating a story that happened soon after he came to Earth but before he=
 met her. He too the form of a fawn and wondered the woods looking for frie=
ndly folk and encountering a bear which he gives a shock to by becoming a f=
awn with extremely large fangs.=20

He then spies the lovely blonde figure of Maisy-June Braggs carrying a book=
 which she then reads to the animals in the forest, E-Man among them. He li=
stens to her stories for several days then one day decides to speak and sho=
w himself becoming a heroic figure like the ones from the stories. Maisy-Ju=
ne is not frightened but delighted by this powerful creature she dubs a "Ge=
nie". They have fine and innocent fun in the woods until one day they are s=
een by some of the locals who imagine that Maisy-June must be a witch.=20

The community rises up and tries to capture Maisy-June but she escapes and =
is saved from being shot by the arrival of her Genie who then adopts a supe=
rhero costume like he'd seen in the comics complete with flowing cape. Mais=
y-June now afraid no longer seeks to frighten those who frightened her by s=
howing them her power assisted of course by the Genie. They make the locals=
 think that Maisy can transform into a panther but nonetheless she is taken=
 unaware and captured and taken back to the community where the frightened =
people try to burn her at the stake.=20

E-Man arrives but trips over his cape, at which point he disappears the sil=
ly accoutrements. In an effort to scare off the threatening folk, he appear=
s before them and then frees Maisy-June from her bonds. He then transforms =
himself seemingly into a giant image of Satan himself sending the locals sc=
reaming away in terror. Maisy-June though becomes different and very violen=
t wishing that her Genie destroy the people. Her mother arrives and tells E=
-Man that Maisy-June is mentally ill and though she has tried to keep her f=
rom it, needs to be admitted to a sanitarium. E-Man recognizing the truth o=
f the situation creates the illusion of himself as a charming prince and le=
ads Maisy to a beautiful castle which in reality is the asylum. He walks aw=
ay sad, but sure he's done the correct thing.=20

Nova is affected by the story but still wonders what Maisy-June wants with =
her boyfriend when the doorbell rings. In walks Maisy-June seemingly cured =
and happy and much to Nova's relief she introduces her husband a familiar l=
ooking cuss named Dabney Slocum.

"E-Mail" offers up three letters of comment in response to the eighth issue=
. The reactions are mixed on the transformation of Nova into a superhero. S=
ome think it's a positive move and others fear it undermines the unique qua=
lity of the series. Sadly there is an announcement at the bottom of the pag=
e saying that this is the final issue of E-Man and that despite "spectacula=
r" fan interest, there simply have not been enough comics sold to keep the =
title going. It is noted that thanks to Bob Layton and the CPL Gang the E-M=
an saga will continue in The Charlton Bullseye.=20

"Rog 2000 Vs. Sog" was written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by John Byrne. The =
story begins in a New York City evacuated and under siege as Rog-2000 decke=
d out in a soldier's helmet and armed with an exotic rifle stalks the stree=
ts. He thinks back on how at the bottom of the ocean the pollution gave ris=
e to a creature soon to be called "Sog" made of pollution and muck and anim=
al remains which rises to overwhelm a fishing boat and its crew, and then c=
omes ashore and begins to overwhelm the city absorbing people and getting l=
arger and larger as it goes. Unaware of these goings on, Rog finds a desert=
ed church and then is confronted by General Dove in a tank who tells him of=
 the threat and offers the robot the chance to help by giving him a "Neutro=
n Gun". That brings the story back to the present and Rog confronts the cre=
ature dubbed Sog but just as he is about to fire the weapon a little girl g=
ets in the line of sight and he has to save her. Sog comes forward relentle=
ssly until in the final moment collapsing into a mass of crud and pollution=
. The theory is that Sog died from overeating overwhelmed by the garbage in=
 NYC. As General Dove and his men clean up Rog takes the little girl home.=
=20

This comic was reprinted completely under the Modern Comics label in 1977. =
The E-man story was reprinted in 1986 by First Comics and the Rog-2000 stor=
y was reprinted in 1982 by Pacific Comics.=20=20

The end of E-Man was a sad day in comics. The industry had in the Bronze Ag=
e been a chaotic environment full of experimentation in the Big Two and bri=
efly it seemed also in Charlton, the perennial also-ran publisher. E-Man wa=
s an attempt to break out of the doldrums and reestablish an identity on pa=
r with Marvel and DC. It failed. To its credit Charlton seemed to give E-Ma=
n a good long try-out, and they did follow it up with other inventive books=
. But alas the company then needed to focus on licensed material and the mo=
ment which was kindled with E-Man began to flicker and wane. Soon Charlton =
would be a shell of its former self and then after a few more years defunct=
.=20

E-Man continued to have fun with the superhero dynamic right up to the end =
though, as one of my favorite scenes in the series is when E-Man trips over=
 his cape. A similar scene was a highlight of Steve Englehart's Nomad stori=
es in Captain America. This kind of thoughtful comment made the books seem =
smart and made the reader feel as if they were in on the secrets.

Also this story brings E-Man right into my backyard. I'm a product of the h=
ills of Eastern Kentucky and the yokels of Hog Wallow that E-Man encounters=
 in this tale are versions of Al Capp's "hillbillies" from his famous Li'l =
Abner comic strip. Maisy is Daisy and Dabney is Abner for sure. Staton even=
 puts a few shout outs to Capp in the story. But the land of Dogpatch, the =
home of Abner though famously thought to be in Arkansas and around that are=
a, was originally identified as Kentucky, specifically the Appalachian hill=
sides I grew up on. So this story has a special echo for a country boy like=
 myself.=20=20=20

But it wasn't quite over, as indicated in the announcement of cancellation.=
 The stories by Cuti and Staton found a new home briefly in Charlton Bullse=
ye. I'll touch on those efforts later.=20

And while E-Man would eventually return many times in his own title, these =
ten issues will always be special in the minds of fans. They are of a time =
and have a special magic, that certain something which makes comics fun.=20

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As promised several months after the cancellation of the E-Man regular seri=
es, stories did begin to appear in The Charlton Bullseye. Volume 3, issue 4=
 of the fanzine published by CPL/Gang Publications showed up in the spring =
of 1976. The fanzine was edited by Bob Layton. The color cover for this bla=
ck and white magazine is by Joe Staton.=20

"...And Why the Sea is Boiling Hot" was written by Nicola "Nick" Cuti and d=
rawn by Joe Staton. The story begins with E-Man and Nova on duty disguised =
as water buoys in the ocean. They are part of an investigation in conjuncti=
on with Michael Mauser and the military to investigate the disappearance of=
 ships and aircraft in this area of the ocean. They soon detect what seems =
to be a ghostly galleon flying the Jolly Roger, the symbol of piracy. They =
board the ship and discover that it is powered by alien technology but then=
 they are attacked by classic pirates armed with rayguns which send them bo=
th confused and dazed into the sea. Nova recovers and spies a weird submari=
ne which she follows into a cavernous dock and to escape detection she pret=
ends to be a bat, but not before she is slightly wounded. After some confus=
ion E-Man appears and the two of them join forces to fight off the aliens w=
ho seem to want only Earth's resources as any pirate might. Implementing Pl=
an 25 Nova and E-Man bond their mass to become a great cannon which allows =
them to fight through to the ghostly alien galleon. They commandeer the cra=
ft but are chased by the alien subs. They lead the aliens into the air abov=
e the ocean where Mauser is waiting as well as General Dove along with a sq=
uadron of military fighters who engage the aliens. The Earth appears to be =
save again but as Mauser notes man continues to pollute this world he claim=
s to treasure.=20

This story was reprinted by First Comics in 1986.

There is a blurb in the "The Charlton News" section that E-Man will appear =
in every other issue but alas this single story is the only one to see prin=
t since The Charlton Bullseye ceases publication after the very next issue.=
=20

But another story was already prepared for publication. It would not see pr=
int for many years.

In 1985 and 1986 First Comics made an effort to put all of the E-Man materi=
al into print again in a series of comics which combined stories from the E=
-Man title and also Michael Mauser stories from Vengeance Squad. The storie=
s done for The Charlton Bullseye were also included and that counted a stor=
y done for the Bullseye but never published.=20

That story titled "Vamfire" was written by Nicola Cuti and drawn by Joe Sta=
ton. Bob Layton is listed as editor and Wendy Fiore did the colors for the =
reprint, though the original would've been published in black and white.=20

The tale begins way back when E-Man himself was first created when a distan=
t sun went nova and spewed out the energy packet which would become E-Man. =
Another packet of energy was also released, this one of a more "vampiric" n=
ature which followed the first through space eating up the trail of energy =
left behind. Eventually after a vast number of years the second packet find=
s its way to Earth and trails the energy to a meager dinner named "Joe and =
Nicks" run by two familiar faces and who cater to Nova Kane who powers up t=
heir neon sign with her energy powers. Thinking this is the energy trail it=
 has been following for so long the alien assumes a shape similar to Nova's=
 and adopts the name "Vamfire".=20

New York City is struck by a plague of power outages caused by the alien. B=
ut when Vamfire tries to feed from an atomic energy plant at Minnesota Flat=
s she runs into Nova who is trying to locate the cause of the power failure=
s. The two fight and Vamfire learns that Nova is not the energy creature sh=
e had followed all those years, but an Earth woman who as it turns out has =
a stiff uppercut which stuns Vamfire. E-Man appears and applauds Nova's han=
dling of Vamfire's threat and realizes that she must be something akin to h=
is sister, a thought that disturbs Nova and bemuses Vamfire.

These final E-Man stories done in some manner under the Charlton banner hav=
e a more tongue-in-cheek character than the original ones in the regular se=
ries. Nick Cuti seems to know of course that he's now writing to a pure fan=
boy audience and that he can play even more with the conventions of the for=
m.=20

The Vamfire story seems very much a story for fans, with Nick Cuti and Joe =
Staton even making cameos in the story. Vamfire seems not so much an actual=
 threat as an excuse to concoct a tale. The story lack any of the real tens=
ion that even the funniest of the originals had in some small measure. But =
it's still a hoot of a story.=20

One of the clearest examples of playing to the fanboy audience is in the fi=
rst story from Bulleye in which Nova responds to a comment E-Man makes abou=
t the color of some object being confusing because they are now in black an=
d white. I noted that when this story was reprinted in the First Comics ser=
ies with color, that comment and the bubble it was contained in were elimin=
ated, the only change of such a type that I noticed in those reprints.=20

It's too bad that Bullseye couldn't have continued and so give us more E-Ma=
n stories. But then if Charlton hadn't collapsed then the property wouldn't=
 have been available for First to make use of. While most fans think the 80=
's E-Man series is inferior to the Charlton run  (myself included) it did f=
ree E-Man from the servitude in endless cheap reprints most of the Charlton=
 canon fell into when the properties were sold off to Richard Broughton and=
 his ACG/Avalon brands. Along with the "Action Heroes" which went to DC and=
 a few others like Thunderbolt which fell to its creator PAM, E-Man found a=
 way to stay alive popping up every few years here and there. First, Comico=
, Alpha, Digital Webbing, and Twomorrows have all taken a swing at an E-Man=
 story. In addition E-Man has shown up in all sorts of benefit books over t=
he years. The character is a bit of an icon to indie comics, a pioneer proj=
ect which seems never to quite thrive, but never quite disappear.=20

The character touched a nerve with us happy lucky few who stumbled across h=
im all those decades ago now. His smiling mug gave superheroes a happy face=
 when one was sorely needed, in a decade which reminds me much of modern ti=
mes. A war which seems to grind on ceaselessly and an economy which teeters=
 day to day are stresses which make readers relish a sunny diversion. E-Man=
 by Cuti and Staton is the very tonic!=20

As I sit here typing up this final installment of these reports, I am delig=
hted to announce that my E-Man poster arrived in the mail. And I quickly go=
t it into a frame and hung it prominently above my computer. As I type thes=
e words that earliest public glimpse of E-Man from 38 years ago smiles down=
 upon me, warming my heart and reminding me of a time many years ago when c=
omics were fun and charming, and E-Man was arguably the best comic book on =
the stands.=20

"E is for Engery...E is for E-Man - From the awesome...to the ridiculous, f=
rom hurling pure energy with his bare hands...to lurking in a light bulb/ E=
-Man's fantastic ability to all the forms of energy makes him a formidable =
foe of Evil!!"=20

Thanks Nick! Thanks Joe!=20

Until next time.=20

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The latest issue of Back Issue from Twomorrows drops today and it has an ar=
ticle on the Charlton ghostly line-up. Here's a link with a glimpse.=20

http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=3Dproduct_info&cPath=3D54&product=
s_id=3D1001

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Thanks, Rip! I actually wrote the article and I've been a=C2=A0huge fan of =
those Charlton ghost books since I was a kid.=C2=A0I interviewed Steve Skea=
tes, Nick Cuti and Joe Staton for the story and they had some great memorie=
s to share.
=C2=A0
Anyway, thanks for the plug and hope people like the article.
=C2=A0
Bruce Buchanan

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=C2=A0=20
The latest issue of Back Issue from Twomorrows drops today and it has an ar=
ticle on the Charlton ghostly line-up. Here's a link with a glimpse.=20

http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=3Dproduct_info&cPath=3D54&product=
s_id=3D1001

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Charlton's other "superhero" debut in 1973 was Yang. Created in the same pu=
sh by George Wildman which yielded E-Man, Yang was clearly a story inspired=
 by the television show Kung Fu starring David Carradine, which itself was =
both spark and result of a wave of interest in martial arts at the time.=20

Wildman got Charlton veteran writer Joe Gill to supply the scripts and he t=
apped artist Warren Sattler for the art chores. The latter was an odd move =
since Charlton had working for them at the time Sanho Kim, an artist ideall=
y suited for this project. (But there's more to that story later.) Sattler'=
s warm and comfortable style is a good fit nonetheless.=20

Yang Volume 1 Number 1 is dated November, 1973 and was published by Charlto=
n Publications. The editor is George Wildman and the cover is by Warren Sat=
tler. The writer is Joe Gill and the interior artwork is also by Sattler.=20

Part 1 "The Slave" begins in China in 1890 at the  estate of the Mandarin C=
hung Yuan and his son Chung Hui. A warlord named Chao Ku orders the death o=
f Chung Yuan and Chung Hui is too late to stop the murder. But he does use =
his considerable martial arts skills to waylay the murderers and following =
the mandates of his father's final word's puts aside his studies to become =
"Yang" for his people, a source of good in the lives of his people. He seek=
s out Chao Ku aboard his junk and comes under attack by Chao Ku's men and C=
aptain Keegan, an American who is working with Chao Ku in his slave industr=
y. Yang vows to meet his father's murderer again but as he leaves the junk =
he meets Yin Li, Chao Ku's daughter who feigns weakness and then kisses our=
 hero, but she uses a drugged ring which cause Yang to fall to sleep at her=
 feet. Yang is taken a prisoner by Keegan who takes him aboard his clipper =
ship headed for America. Yang meets the other prisoners and vows to help th=
em. Close to San Francisco, Yang gets topside on the ship and makes a break=
 for escape and dives headlong into the frigid waters.=20

Part 2 "Yang Meets Yin" begins with Yang swimming in the cold waters off Al=
catraz Island, and Captain Keegan assumes weighted with chains the proud Ch=
inese hero must be dead. Yang though comes out of the water at the docks in=
 San Francisco and finds a sympathetic Chinese blacksmith to help remove hi=
s chains. He then seeks out Captain Keegan again and finds the evil sailor =
meeting with Chao Ku and Yin Li, the both of them having come to America to=
o. Yang is captured though and taken before the trio where he then battles =
for freedom. He escapes with the seeming help of Yin Li, who professes to w=
ant to leave the influence of her evil father, but another kiss from the lo=
vely girl and a sting of the ring, and Yang is once again flat out on the f=
loor at her deceitful feet. This time Yang is transported into the interior=
 of the America aboard a train, destined to work on the railroads as slave =
labor. After a few days of work, he is able to lead a revolt against his ma=
sters and after a furious battle that sees the destruction of a train, Yang=
 escapes his captors once again and runs into the broad sprawling landscape=
 that is the American West.

"The Wisdom of Wu" is a one-page text story which relates how villages in C=
hina are suffering from many woes. The people of those villages seek out a =
legendary wise man named "Wu" who they hope will give them an answer to the=
ir troubles. Many seek him out and they all descend on his remote location =
together. He has the people write down their troubles and then switch them =
and read those troubles to him. The people discover their troubles all soun=
d the same and Wu tells them that they suffer only what man suffers all the=
 time through the ages, and they must take prudent steps to protect themsel=
ves and those they love. That is the wisdom of Wu.

The debut issue of Yang has been reprinted in 1985 when briefly the series =
was restarted with issue #15 (skipping issue #14 inexplicably) with reprint=
s of old issues.=20

The first thing a reader has to understand is that despite many claims to t=
he contrary, Yang is not a superhero book. Admittedly it has a kinship to e=
arly "Action Hero" books like Thunderbolt and Judomaster, but the setting o=
f the American West gives this comic a fresh feel that sets apart from trad=
itional super heroics. Yang is just a man who seeks to accomplish noble thi=
ngs, and there's no reason to think that this series is anything other than=
 a Western, a genre Charlton was wonderful at creating.=20

Warren Sattler creates some very appealing artwork here, his storytelling i=
s impeccable. I could pick a bit at his character designs, especially his r=
endition of Yin Li, which always seemed oddly modern to me, but overall his=
 comics have an inviting feel to them. Joe Gill's script is an excellent ex=
ample why this workhorse of a writer is so well regarded in the field today=
. He wrote a ton of material, and while obviously some of it was solid tras=
h, he could in situations like this make the most of the task he was given.=
=20

The whole Taoist Yin-Yang philosophical angle which underpins the story is =
clever enough. Yang representing the good side of man and Yin Li representi=
ng the darker side, two people bonded by emotion but held apart by upbringi=
ng and motivation forms a neat tension to follow through the series. I don'=
t pretend to understand how accurate these representations are, but they wo=
rk for the story purposes here.=20=20

Yang will prove to be a reasonably successful series for Charlton eventuall=
y, even generating a spin-off later in its run. That series too will be dea=
lt with in these reports.=20

More to come, though at the time quite a wait was required. Yang would retu=
rn and he'd bring a bunch of friends with him.=20

Rip Off


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Enjoyed the article Bruce. Like many articles in Back Issue, it didn't go i=
nto enough detail for my tastes, but I liked what I read.
I liked especially the stuff from Skeates. It's always nice to see Charlton=
 get some attention. It gets dull reading about Batman and Wolverine all th=
e time.=20

Rip Off

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.> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Rip! I actually wrote the article and I've been a=C2=A0huge fan o=
f those Charlton ghost books since I was a kid.=C2=A0I interviewed Steve Sk=
eates, Nick Cuti and Joe Staton for the story and they had some great memor=
ies to share.
> =C2=A0
> Anyway, thanks for the plug and hope people like the article.
> =C2=A0
> Bruce Buchanan
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:44 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Back Issue #52 - Charlton Ghost Books!
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
> The latest issue of Back Issue from Twomorrows drops today and it has an =
article on the Charlton ghostly line-up. Here's a link with a glimpse.=20
>=20
> http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=3Dproduct_info&cPath=3D54&produ=
cts_id=3D1001
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Subject: The Yang Reports #2
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Due to a paper shortage and the energy crisis in 1974, many of Charlton's c=
omics were delayed for several months. Such was the case with Yang #2 which=
 hit the stands six months after the debut issue.=20

Yang Volume 2, Number 2 is dated May 1974 and was published by Charlton Pub=
lications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the writer is Joe Gill. Wa=
rren Sattler is again on board as the artist, both for the interiors and th=
e for the cover.=20

A "Prologue" brings the reader up to date on Yang's story, and how as a stu=
dent Chung Hui saw his father killed by killers of the slaver Chao Ku. Beco=
ming a force of good, Chung Hui becomes "Yang" for the people and vows to b=
ring down Chao Ku and his forces including his daughter Yin Li who uses a p=
oison ring to fell our hero and then transports him to the American West wh=
ere he escapes the clutches of those who want to enslave him and others to =
build the railroad.=20

Part 1 "Death in the Desert" begins with a bounty hunter finding Yang in th=
e desert after his escape but Yang quickly turns the tables and takes the c=
owboy's horse and uses it to return to the train where he finds the owner J=
.L. Hartley, and partner of Chao Ku's. Yang finding some dynamite in a shed=
 uses it to blow up the train and the tracks, in an attempt to free the sla=
ves. He succeeds and leads them into the mountains, but he himself then fal=
ls victim to Yin Li who confronts him on horseback and knocks him unconscio=
us with the butt of a pistol. She chooses not to kill him there, but take t=
o a secret lair where he will not become a martyr.=20

"Tang's Tales" is a trio of text stories. "Sim Sung's Song" is the tale of =
a happy man who sings when he works which pleases a local rich man who then=
 gives Sim Sung gold so he can enjoy life, but which after a short time act=
ually causes him sadness because it was his life and work which made him si=
ng. He returns to his happy ways. "The Respectful Son" tells of a son who i=
s beaten by his father or carelessness with melons and how it is the son's =
responsibility to only allow himself to be beaten slightly to preserve the =
honor between father and son, according to Confucius. "The Learner" speaks =
of a man who enters a garden to seek enlightenment where all his needs will=
 be met and who stays for twenty-six years proving he's a slow learner, but=
 a clever fellow.=20

Part 2 "Die for Freedom" begins with Yang chained in a cave and about to be=
 killed by Yin Li and her thugs. But he snaps his chains instead and escape=
s fighting the thugs and taking Yin Li deep into the cave where many statue=
s are located. A message says that those with evil hearts should not pass i=
nto the cave and in fact the thugs do fall victim to falling debris. Yin Li=
 tries to use her ring on Yang again, but finally he stops her and says tha=
t his feeling for her and her for him are like the Yin-Yang symbol, each se=
ction possessing a spot of the other making neither of them purely good nor=
 purely evil. He escapes the cave and fights his way out finding a horse. H=
e is followed by Hartley's men, Hartley having survived the train explosion=
s, and Yang fights many of the bounty hunters before returning again to the=
 train. He gets aboard and confronts Hartley and Chao Ku again but is knock=
ed out from behind. The train heads to San Francisco and later when they go=
 to kill Yang, they find he has escaped the speeding train helped by Yin Li=
.

Yang #2 was reprinted in 1985 as Yang #16.=20

The story of Yang to this point is a hectic one, with him rushing from figh=
t to fight with abandon. It has already become something of a gimmick in th=
e stories for Yin Li to trip him up, but given the thematic connection they=
 share, the story is not necessarily damaged by this constant turnabout. Th=
ere was a real attempt to enliven the Western aspects of the story in this =
chapter, with lots of men on horseback playing a brief but highly visual ro=
le.=20

The time which passed between the first and second issues of Yang were frui=
tful ones for those interested in martial arts entertainment. Yang's debut,=
 dated November gets the nod as the first of a wave of martial arts comics =
which hit the stands in a very short time because of the interest in the te=
levision show Kung Fu.=20

Marvel had the rights to the show apparently but decided instead to create =
Shang-Chi, the son of Fu Manchu. The "Master of Kung Fu" debuted in the pag=
es of Special Marvel Edition #16 which had a December, 1973 cover date, one=
 month after the debut of Charlton's Yang. The adventures of Shang-Chi woul=
d become the longest-lived of the martial arts comics, if not the first.=20

Bearing the same cover date of May 1974 as the second issue of Yang, was Ma=
rvel Premiere #15 which debuted Iron Fist, a revision of the Golden Age Ama=
zing Man story by Bill Everett with a martial arts twist much like PAM's Th=
underbolt from some years previous.=20=20

A month earlier, Marvel had unleashed the magazine-sized Deadly Hands of Ku=
ng Fu onto the market.=20

A year later Richard Dragon, Kung-Fu Fighter would debut from DC Comics, fe=
aturing a cover from former "Action Heroes" editor Dick Giordano.=20

So between the first and second issues of Yang, a torrent of martial arts c=
omics had hit the stands and more was to come. The competition was going to=
 be ferocious. But as we'll see, Yang was up to the challenge.=20

More next time.=20

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 Excellent post I loved Yang. more please sir.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Charlton's other "superhero" debut in 1973 was Yang. Created in the same =
push by George Wildman which yielded E-Man, Yang was clearly a story inspir=
ed by the television show Kung Fu starring David Carradine, which itself wa=
s both spark and result of a wave of interest in martial arts at the time.=
=20
>=20
> Wildman got Charlton veteran writer Joe Gill to supply the scripts and he=
 tapped artist Warren Sattler for the art chores. The latter was an odd mov=
e since Charlton had working for them at the time Sanho Kim, an artist idea=
lly suited for this project. (But there's more to that story later.) Sattle=
r's warm and comfortable style is a good fit nonetheless.=20
>=20
> Yang Volume 1 Number 1 is dated November, 1973 and was published by Charl=
ton Publications. The editor is George Wildman and the cover is by Warren S=
attler. The writer is Joe Gill and the interior artwork is also by Sattler.=
=20
>=20
> Part 1 "The Slave" begins in China in 1890 at the  estate of the Mandarin=
 Chung Yuan and his son Chung Hui. A warlord named Chao Ku orders the death=
 of Chung Yuan and Chung Hui is too late to stop the murder. But he does us=
e his considerable martial arts skills to waylay the murderers and followin=
g the mandates of his father's final word's puts aside his studies to becom=
e "Yang" for his people, a source of good in the lives of his people. He se=
eks out Chao Ku aboard his junk and comes under attack by Chao Ku's men and=
 Captain Keegan, an American who is working with Chao Ku in his slave indus=
try. Yang vows to meet his father's murderer again but as he leaves the jun=
k he meets Yin Li, Chao Ku's daughter who feigns weakness and then kisses o=
ur hero, but she uses a drugged ring which cause Yang to fall to sleep at h=
er feet. Yang is taken a prisoner by Keegan who takes him aboard his clippe=
r ship headed for America. Yang meets the other prisoners and vows to help =
them. Close to San Francisco, Yang gets topside on the ship and makes a bre=
ak for escape and dives headlong into the frigid waters.=20
>=20
> Part 2 "Yang Meets Yin" begins with Yang swimming in the cold waters off =
Alcatraz Island, and Captain Keegan assumes weighted with chains the proud =
Chinese hero must be dead. Yang though comes out of the water at the docks =
in San Francisco and finds a sympathetic Chinese blacksmith to help remove =
his chains. He then seeks out Captain Keegan again and finds the evil sailo=
r meeting with Chao Ku and Yin Li, the both of them having come to America =
too. Yang is captured though and taken before the trio where he then battle=
s for freedom. He escapes with the seeming help of Yin Li, who professes to=
 want to leave the influence of her evil father, but another kiss from the =
lovely girl and a sting of the ring, and Yang is once again flat out on the=
 floor at her deceitful feet. This time Yang is transported into the interi=
or of the America aboard a train, destined to work on the railroads as slav=
e labor. After a few days of work, he is able to lead a revolt against his =
masters and after a furious battle that sees the destruction of a train, Ya=
ng escapes his captors once again and runs into the broad sprawling landsca=
pe that is the American West.
>=20
> "The Wisdom of Wu" is a one-page text story which relates how villages in=
 China are suffering from many woes. The people of those villages seek out =
a legendary wise man named "Wu" who they hope will give them an answer to t=
heir troubles. Many seek him out and they all descend on his remote locatio=
n together. He has the people write down their troubles and then switch the=
m and read those troubles to him. The people discover their troubles all so=
und the same and Wu tells them that they suffer only what man suffers all t=
he time through the ages, and they must take prudent steps to protect thems=
elves and those they love. That is the wisdom of Wu.
>=20
> The debut issue of Yang has been reprinted in 1985 when briefly the serie=
s was restarted with issue #15 (skipping issue #14 inexplicably) with repri=
nts of old issues.=20
>=20
> The first thing a reader has to understand is that despite many claims to=
 the contrary, Yang is not a superhero book. Admittedly it has a kinship to=
 early "Action Hero" books like Thunderbolt and Judomaster, but the setting=
 of the American West gives this comic a fresh feel that sets apart from tr=
aditional super heroics. Yang is just a man who seeks to accomplish noble t=
hings, and there's no reason to think that this series is anything other th=
an a Western, a genre Charlton was wonderful at creating.=20
>=20
> Warren Sattler creates some very appealing artwork here, his storytelling=
 is impeccable. I could pick a bit at his character designs, especially his=
 rendition of Yin Li, which always seemed oddly modern to me, but overall h=
is comics have an inviting feel to them. Joe Gill's script is an excellent =
example why this workhorse of a writer is so well regarded in the field tod=
ay. He wrote a ton of material, and while obviously some of it was solid tr=
ash, he could in situations like this make the most of the task he was give=
n.=20
>=20
> The whole Taoist Yin-Yang philosophical angle which underpins the story i=
s clever enough. Yang representing the good side of man and Yin Li represen=
ting the darker side, two people bonded by emotion but held apart by upbrin=
ging and motivation forms a neat tension to follow through the series. I do=
n't pretend to understand how accurate these representations are, but they =
work for the story purposes here.=20=20
>=20
> Yang will prove to be a reasonably successful series for Charlton eventua=
lly, even generating a spin-off later in its run. That series too will be d=
ealt with in these reports.=20
>=20
> More to come, though at the time quite a wait was required. Yang would re=
turn and he'd bring a bunch of friends with him.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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My pleasure sir!=20

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Yang Volume 2, Number 3 is dated July, 1974. It was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was done by Warren=
 Sattler, who also did the interiors of the book with the guidance of a Joe=
 Gill script.=20

The story opens with a reprise of the situation between our hero Yang and Y=
in Li, the daughter of the villain Chao Ku. It is assumed that Yang was kil=
led after jumping from a speeding train in the previous story, but Yin Li i=
s certain he is still alive since she would know in her heart if her belove=
d were dead. She vows not to make the same mistakes she has made in the pas=
t, but what those mistakes were is uncertain. Chao Ku has put a $10,000 dol=
lar bounty on Yang's head and he is certain that if he is alive that will s=
olve the issue. Yang on the other hand is stealthily entering Chao Ku's lai=
r at that moment and confronts the evil Slaver in his main chamber.=20

"The Impossible" is a one-page text piece which tells of a village named Ku=
an-Chioh which fears a pirate named Liu-Mien. They go to a wise man to seek=
 counsel about what to do when the pirate appears and he tells them to get =
all the metal in the village and create a multitude of fish hooks. They do =
so and when the pirates appear they are captured in vast elaborate nets and=
 the hooks in those nets kill most of the enemy. The rest are taken prisone=
r and the boats burned to keep others from becoming pirates. As the wise ma=
n says, the difficult takes a lot of time to accomplish and the impossible =
only a small time longer.=20

"Prisoner of Evil" begins as Yang throws a spear into the body of Chao Ku, =
but it turns out it is only a dummy decoy placed in the chair by Yin Li to =
draw in out her opponent. She kisses Yang but he is leary of her poison rin=
g, but she has gotten rid of it and instead Yang is distracted and finds hi=
mself trapped inside an iron cage dropped from the ceiling. Chao Ku and A.J=
.Hartley, the railroad robber baron have drinks and enjoy their prisoner's =
plight and intend to kill him quickly. Yin Li takes the gun and shoots Yang=
 point blank, but when he is inspected Yang fights back and escapes. He kno=
cks out Yin Li with a nerve punch and carries her unconscious to the roof, =
fighting off thugs all the while. The pair slip into a secret passage which=
 leads to ready horses and escape into the city of San Francisco. Yin Li ta=
kes Yang to a warehouse of opium, but it turns out she has betrayed him yet=
 again and Chao Ku is waiting.=20

"The Fireship" begins when Yang escapes this most recent plot, setting fire=
 to the warehouse and dodging bullets from Chao Ku and his henchmen. He tak=
es Yin Li and dives out the window into the water of the bay. He swims to t=
he very clipper ship which brought him to America captained by Keegan. The =
ship cuts anchor and slips out of the harbor to avoid the fire which is spr=
eading. Safely out of harms way, they drop anchor again and then Yang and Y=
in Li climb to the deck, but they are immediately waylaid and Yang finds hi=
mself chained to a wall. As he is about to be shot Yin Li again demands the=
 honor and shoots at Yang four times point blank, but instead of killing hi=
m, she fires at his bonds and frees him. He battles the smugglers and then =
frees others who have been taken into slavery from China. The clipper comes=
 under attack by another boat led by Chao Ku, but Yang fends it off with a =
great cannon found on board. Yin Li though cannot allow her father to be ki=
lled and attacks Yang and their battle knocks over a lamp setting the boat =
on fire. The clipper ship burns as well as its cargo of opium, Yin Li retur=
ns to her father, and Yang slips into the bay where sharks gather.=20

This issue was reprinted twice, once in 1977 under the Modern Comics label =
and again in 1986 as Yang #17, the final issue in the run and one of the fi=
nal Charlton comics ever.=20

The battle between Yang and Yin Li gets stranger and stranger. Despite what=
 he understands about their dual natures, it's getting harder to understand=
 why he keeps falling for her nonsense. At some level he is gambling her go=
od nature will always win out, and so far it seems to be the case, but it m=
akes him seem foolish to keep tumbling blindly into the same pitfall. On th=
e plus side, Yang does keep scoring victories against Chao Ku, this time de=
stroying much of his opium stores.=20

About this time, the Charlton Portfolio by the CPL Gang hit the stands and =
it had an article on Charlton's martial arts heroes Judomaster and Thunderb=
olt titled "From the Mystic East" by Doc Larry Brnicky, with Yang getting a=
 mention, and the artwork for issue four's cover being included.=20

More to come.

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Yang Volume 2, Number 3 is dated July, 1974. It was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was done by Warren=
 Sattler, who also did the interiors of the book with the guidance of a Joe=
 Gill script.=20

The story opens with a reprise of the situation between our hero Yang and Y=
in Li, the daughter of the villain Chao Ku. It is assumed that Yang was kil=
led after jumping from a speeding train in the previous story, but Yin Li i=
s certain he is still alive since she would know in her heart if her belove=
d were dead. She vows not to make the same mistakes she has made in the pas=
t, but what those mistakes were is uncertain. Chao Ku has put a $10,000 dol=
lar bounty on Yang's head and he is certain that if he is alive that will s=
olve the issue. Yang on the other hand is stealthily entering Chao Ku's lai=
r at that moment and confronts the evil Slaver in his main chamber.=20

"The Impossible" is a one-page text piece which tells of a village named Ku=
an-Chioh which fears a pirate named Liu-Mien. They go to a wise man to seek=
 counsel about what to do when the pirate appears and he tells them to get =
all the metal in the village and create a multitude of fish hooks. They do =
so and when the pirates appear they are captured in vast elaborate nets and=
 the hooks in those nets kill most of the enemy. The rest are taken prisone=
r and the boats burned to keep others from becoming pirates. As the wise ma=
n says, the difficult takes a lot of time to accomplish and the impossible =
only a small time longer.=20

"Prisoner of Evil" begins as Yang throws a spear into the body of Chao Ku, =
but it turns out it is only a dummy decoy placed in the chair by Yin Li to =
draw in out her opponent. She kisses Yang but he is leary of her poison rin=
g, but she has gotten rid of it and instead Yang is distracted and finds hi=
mself trapped inside an iron cage dropped from the ceiling. Chao Ku and A.J=
.Hartley, the railroad robber baron have drinks and enjoy their prisoner's =
plight and intend to kill him quickly. Yin Li takes the gun and shoots Yang=
 point blank, but when he is inspected Yang fights back and escapes. He kno=
cks out Yin Li with a nerve punch and carries her unconscious to the roof, =
fighting off thugs all the while. The pair slip into a secret passage which=
 leads to ready horses and escape into the city of San Francisco. Yin Li ta=
kes Yang to a warehouse of opium, but it turns out she has betrayed him yet=
 again and Chao Ku is waiting.=20

"The Fireship" begins when Yang escapes this most recent plot, setting fire=
 to the warehouse and dodging bullets from Chao Ku and his henchmen. He tak=
es Yin Li and dives out the window into the water of the bay. He swims to t=
he very clipper ship which brought him to America captained by Keegan. The =
ship cuts anchor and slips out of the harbor to avoid the fire which is spr=
eading. Safely out of harms way, they drop anchor again and then Yang and Y=
in Li climb to the deck, but they are immediately waylaid and Yang finds hi=
mself chained to a wall. As he is about to be shot Yin Li again demands the=
 honor and shoots at Yang four times point blank, but instead of killing hi=
m, she fires at his bonds and frees him. He battles the smugglers and then =
frees others who have been taken into slavery from China. The clipper comes=
 under attack by another boat led by Chao Ku, but Yang fends it off with a =
great cannon found on board. Yin Li though cannot allow her father to be ki=
lled and attacks Yang and their battle knocks over a lamp setting the boat =
on fire. The clipper ship burns as well as its cargo of opium, Yin Li retur=
ns to her father, and Yang slips into the bay where sharks gather.=20

This issue was reprinted twice, once in 1977 under the Modern Comics label =
and again in 1986 as Yang #17, the final issue in the run and one of the fi=
nal Charlton comics ever.=20

The battle between Yang and Yin Li gets stranger and stranger. Despite what=
 he understands about their dual natures, it's getting harder to understand=
 why he keeps falling for her nonsense. At some level he is gambling her go=
od nature will always win out, and so far it seems to be the case, but it m=
akes him seem foolish to keep tumbling blindly into the same pitfall. On th=
e plus side, Yang does keep scoring victories against Chao Ku, this time de=
stroying much of his opium stores.=20

About this time, the Charlton Portfolio by the CPL Gang hit the stands and =
it had an article on Charlton's martial arts heroes Judomaster and Thunderb=
olt titled "From the Mystic East" by Doc Larry Brnicky, with Yang getting a=
 mention, and the artwork for issue four's cover being included.=20

More to come.

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Yang Volume 2, Number 4 is dated September 1974 and was published by Charlt=
on Publicatons Inc. The cover was illustrated by Warren Sattler, who also d=
id the interiors. The script was written by Joe Gill. George Wildman was th=
e editor.=20

"The Hooded Death"  begins in Lucky Nugget, a mining town and specifically =
the bar owned by Mrs. Brundage where Yang rescues an innocent miner about t=
o be gunned down during a poker game. Yang is able to defeat the thugs in t=
he employ of Brundage who lures Yang into taking a cup of tea which is drug=
ged. The unconscious Yang awakes penniless and is directed to a unscrupulou=
s banker named Webb. Webb stakes Yang to mine in Grizzly Gulch, sending him=
 there with equipment and a mule. Yang arrives there but soon enough learns=
 the place gets its name from a ferocious grizzly bear who attacks but is b=
eaten back by Yang. Yang then begins to mine and finds a mother lode of gol=
d. After a month of mining he loads up and heads back to Lucky Nugget. Afte=
r leaving the Gulch he is set upon by a sniper but escapes being wounded an=
d defeats his attacker, killing him with a single blow to the neck. Adding =
the body to his load he gets into Lucky Nugget in time to see a robbery in =
progress which he stops before encountering Webb who knows the name of the =
sniper, a man named Childrers. Another gunman named Thompson confronts Yang=
.=20

"Boot Hill Booty!" begins as Thompson is shot by Mrs.Brundage who appears t=
o help Yang. Yang is directed to Boot Hill where he buries Childers. He has=
 one sack of his gold assayed and it proves to be ninety percent pure and Y=
ang puts the remaining sacks into the safe. News of his strike gets to Webb=
 and Brundage who plot to lure Yang into trouble. A woman claiming to be Br=
undage's niece takes Yang to her, but a group of thugs interferes and Yang =
is forced to defeat them. When Yang leaves Brundages, a trap has been set b=
y the local Vigilantes who are actually in the employ of Webb and Brundage =
and they manage to hogtie Yang and the masked me threaten to hang our hero.=
 He fights back successfully until a masked Brundage gets the drop on him a=
nd he is put on the back of a horse and a noose put on his neck. But Yang i=
s able to use his great training to escape and in the darkness he evades th=
e vigilantes. Webb and Brundage decide to steal Yang's gold but after blowi=
ng the safe they find only dirt in the sacks. Wile Yang did strike it rich,=
 he hid the gold in the grave with the body of Chliders and not the safe. T=
he miners in the meantime have elected a sheriff named Morgan who then arre=
sts Brundage and Webb and the other thugs. Yang vows to use his wealth to h=
elp free his people from slavery.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" features three letters, mostly of praise for the new series=
. There is explanation of a comment made in the letters page of Midnight Ta=
les #6 which mentioned that Sanho Kim was working on a superhero series. Fo=
lks imagined Yang must be that series, and as it turns out they were not co=
mpletely wrong. It turns out that Kim did indeed produce a work titled "Wro=
ng Country", but it was lost in the mail. The paper shortage at the time pr=
evented Charlton from publishing it immediately. The editors also mention t=
hat they've gotten few letters to Yang, and that they do not agree personal=
ly with the unfavorable attitude toward women reflected in the Yin-Yang phi=
losophy.

This is a solid issue and it's good to see Yang interacting with some new p=
layers. Mrs. Brundage fills the female Yin role nicely and while if I were =
Yang after this, I'd be a confirmed woman hater. The mining town backdrop i=
s a good one for action, and this issue has a bunch. Yang's willingness to =
kill his opponents opens up the complexity of the story quite a bit and giv=
es the proceedings some real gravity.=20

The cover of this particular issue is a pretty violent one too, and I'm a b=
it surprised it got past the code. While the image is one which suggest rac=
ism, the story inside doesn't really show that at all. It's not Yang's race=
 which is a problem for Brundage and Webb, merely his do-gooder habits whic=
h keep them from profits.=20=20

Not mentioned in this issue's letters page, but well known now is that Yang=
 by Joe Gill and Warren Sattler was the replacement for Kim's lost project.=
 Later Sanho Kim would be tapped to do the spin-off House of Yang and he wo=
uld not have time to continue Wrong Country which was eventually published =
in the pages of Charlton Bullseye #3 many months later.=20

More to come.=20

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 I myself just read Yang 1 and couldn't agree more with your assessment of =
this issue. The Chinese did indeed build the railroads with their sweat and=
 did suffer prejudice of american society.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>  Excellent post I loved Yang. more please sir.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > Charlton's other "superhero" debut in 1973 was Yang. Created in the sam=
e push by George Wildman which yielded E-Man, Yang was clearly a story insp=
ired by the television show Kung Fu starring David Carradine, which itself =
was both spark and result of a wave of interest in martial arts at the time=
.=20
> >=20
> > Wildman got Charlton veteran writer Joe Gill to supply the scripts and =
he tapped artist Warren Sattler for the art chores. The latter was an odd m=
ove since Charlton had working for them at the time Sanho Kim, an artist id=
eally suited for this project. (But there's more to that story later.) Satt=
ler's warm and comfortable style is a good fit nonetheless.=20
> >=20
> > Yang Volume 1 Number 1 is dated November, 1973 and was published by Cha=
rlton Publications. The editor is George Wildman and the cover is by Warren=
 Sattler. The writer is Joe Gill and the interior artwork is also by Sattle=
r.=20
> >=20
> > Part 1 "The Slave" begins in China in 1890 at the  estate of the Mandar=
in Chung Yuan and his son Chung Hui. A warlord named Chao Ku orders the dea=
th of Chung Yuan and Chung Hui is too late to stop the murder. But he does =
use his considerable martial arts skills to waylay the murderers and follow=
ing the mandates of his father's final word's puts aside his studies to bec=
ome "Yang" for his people, a source of good in the lives of his people. He =
seeks out Chao Ku aboard his junk and comes under attack by Chao Ku's men a=
nd Captain Keegan, an American who is working with Chao Ku in his slave ind=
ustry. Yang vows to meet his father's murderer again but as he leaves the j=
unk he meets Yin Li, Chao Ku's daughter who feigns weakness and then kisses=
 our hero, but she uses a drugged ring which cause Yang to fall to sleep at=
 her feet. Yang is taken a prisoner by Keegan who takes him aboard his clip=
per ship headed for America. Yang meets the other prisoners and vows to hel=
p them. Close to San Francisco, Yang gets topside on the ship and makes a b=
reak for escape and dives headlong into the frigid waters.=20
> >=20
> > Part 2 "Yang Meets Yin" begins with Yang swimming in the cold waters of=
f Alcatraz Island, and Captain Keegan assumes weighted with chains the prou=
d Chinese hero must be dead. Yang though comes out of the water at the dock=
s in San Francisco and finds a sympathetic Chinese blacksmith to help remov=
e his chains. He then seeks out Captain Keegan again and finds the evil sai=
lor meeting with Chao Ku and Yin Li, the both of them having come to Americ=
a too. Yang is captured though and taken before the trio where he then batt=
les for freedom. He escapes with the seeming help of Yin Li, who professes =
to want to leave the influence of her evil father, but another kiss from th=
e lovely girl and a sting of the ring, and Yang is once again flat out on t=
he floor at her deceitful feet. This time Yang is transported into the inte=
rior of the America aboard a train, destined to work on the railroads as sl=
ave labor. After a few days of work, he is able to lead a revolt against hi=
s masters and after a furious battle that sees the destruction of a train, =
Yang escapes his captors once again and runs into the broad sprawling lands=
cape that is the American West.
> >=20
> > "The Wisdom of Wu" is a one-page text story which relates how villages =
in China are suffering from many woes. The people of those villages seek ou=
t a legendary wise man named "Wu" who they hope will give them an answer to=
 their troubles. Many seek him out and they all descend on his remote locat=
ion together. He has the people write down their troubles and then switch t=
hem and read those troubles to him. The people discover their troubles all =
sound the same and Wu tells them that they suffer only what man suffers all=
 the time through the ages, and they must take prudent steps to protect the=
mselves and those they love. That is the wisdom of Wu.
> >=20
> > The debut issue of Yang has been reprinted in 1985 when briefly the ser=
ies was restarted with issue #15 (skipping issue #14 inexplicably) with rep=
rints of old issues.=20
> >=20
> > The first thing a reader has to understand is that despite many claims =
to the contrary, Yang is not a superhero book. Admittedly it has a kinship =
to early "Action Hero" books like Thunderbolt and Judomaster, but the setti=
ng of the American West gives this comic a fresh feel that sets apart from =
traditional super heroics. Yang is just a man who seeks to accomplish noble=
 things, and there's no reason to think that this series is anything other =
than a Western, a genre Charlton was wonderful at creating.=20
> >=20
> > Warren Sattler creates some very appealing artwork here, his storytelli=
ng is impeccable. I could pick a bit at his character designs, especially h=
is rendition of Yin Li, which always seemed oddly modern to me, but overall=
 his comics have an inviting feel to them. Joe Gill's script is an excellen=
t example why this workhorse of a writer is so well regarded in the field t=
oday. He wrote a ton of material, and while obviously some of it was solid =
trash, he could in situations like this make the most of the task he was gi=
ven.=20
> >=20
> > The whole Taoist Yin-Yang philosophical angle which underpins the story=
 is clever enough. Yang representing the good side of man and Yin Li repres=
enting the darker side, two people bonded by emotion but held apart by upbr=
inging and motivation forms a neat tension to follow through the series. I =
don't pretend to understand how accurate these representations are, but the=
y work for the story purposes here.=20=20
> >=20
> > Yang will prove to be a reasonably successful series for Charlton event=
ually, even generating a spin-off later in its run. That series too will be=
 dealt with in these reports.=20
> >=20
> > More to come, though at the time quite a wait was required. Yang would =
return and he'd bring a bunch of friends with him.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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 I myself a baby boomer remember the Martial arts craze. Enter the Dragon w=
as the top film at the time along with Kung Fu fighting song this was a goo=
d action issue and yes Yin Li got the best of Yang again lol.=20
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:
>
> Due to a paper shortage and the energy crisis in 1974, many of Charlton's=
 comics were delayed for several months. Such was the case with Yang #2 whi=
ch hit the stands six months after the debut issue.=20
>=20
> Yang Volume 2, Number 2 is dated May 1974 and was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the writer is Joe Gill. =
Warren Sattler is again on board as the artist, both for the interiors and =
the for the cover.=20
>=20
> A "Prologue" brings the reader up to date on Yang's story, and how as a s=
tudent Chung Hui saw his father killed by killers of the slaver Chao Ku. Be=
coming a force of good, Chung Hui becomes "Yang" for the people and vows to=
 bring down Chao Ku and his forces including his daughter Yin Li who uses a=
 poison ring to fell our hero and then transports him to the American West =
where he escapes the clutches of those who want to enslave him and others t=
o build the railroad.=20
>=20
> Part 1 "Death in the Desert" begins with a bounty hunter finding Yang in =
the desert after his escape but Yang quickly turns the tables and takes the=
 cowboy's horse and uses it to return to the train where he finds the owner=
 J.L. Hartley, and partner of Chao Ku's. Yang finding some dynamite in a sh=
ed uses it to blow up the train and the tracks, in an attempt to free the s=
laves. He succeeds and leads them into the mountains, but he himself then f=
alls victim to Yin Li who confronts him on horseback and knocks him unconsc=
ious with the butt of a pistol. She chooses not to kill him there, but take=
 to a secret lair where he will not become a martyr.=20
>=20
> "Tang's Tales" is a trio of text stories. "Sim Sung's Song" is the tale o=
f a happy man who sings when he works which pleases a local rich man who th=
en gives Sim Sung gold so he can enjoy life, but which after a short time a=
ctually causes him sadness because it was his life and work which made him =
sing. He returns to his happy ways. "The Respectful Son" tells of a son who=
 is beaten by his father or carelessness with melons and how it is the son'=
s responsibility to only allow himself to be beaten slightly to preserve th=
e honor between father and son, according to Confucius. "The Learner" speak=
s of a man who enters a garden to seek enlightenment where all his needs wi=
ll be met and who stays for twenty-six years proving he's a slow learner, b=
ut a clever fellow.=20
>=20
> Part 2 "Die for Freedom" begins with Yang chained in a cave and about to =
be killed by Yin Li and her thugs. But he snaps his chains instead and esca=
pes fighting the thugs and taking Yin Li deep into the cave where many stat=
ues are located. A message says that those with evil hearts should not pass=
 into the cave and in fact the thugs do fall victim to falling debris. Yin =
Li tries to use her ring on Yang again, but finally he stops her and says t=
hat his feeling for her and her for him are like the Yin-Yang symbol, each =
section possessing a spot of the other making neither of them purely good n=
or purely evil. He escapes the cave and fights his way out finding a horse.=
 He is followed by Hartley's men, Hartley having survived the train explosi=
ons, and Yang fights many of the bounty hunters before returning again to t=
he train. He gets aboard and confronts Hartley and Chao Ku again but is kno=
cked out from behind. The train heads to San Francisco and later when they =
go to kill Yang, they find he has escaped the speeding train helped by Yin =
Li.
>=20
> Yang #2 was reprinted in 1985 as Yang #16.=20
>=20
> The story of Yang to this point is a hectic one, with him rushing from fi=
ght to fight with abandon. It has already become something of a gimmick in =
the stories for Yin Li to trip him up, but given the thematic connection th=
ey share, the story is not necessarily damaged by this constant turnabout. =
There was a real attempt to enliven the Western aspects of the story in thi=
s chapter, with lots of men on horseback playing a brief but highly visual =
role.=20
>=20
> The time which passed between the first and second issues of Yang were fr=
uitful ones for those interested in martial arts entertainment. Yang's debu=
t, dated November gets the nod as the first of a wave of martial arts comic=
s which hit the stands in a very short time because of the interest in the =
television show Kung Fu.=20
>=20
> Marvel had the rights to the show apparently but decided instead to creat=
e Shang-Chi, the son of Fu Manchu. The "Master of Kung Fu" debuted in the p=
ages of Special Marvel Edition #16 which had a December, 1973 cover date, o=
ne month after the debut of Charlton's Yang. The adventures of Shang-Chi wo=
uld become the longest-lived of the martial arts comics, if not the first.=
=20
>=20
> Bearing the same cover date of May 1974 as the second issue of Yang, was =
Marvel Premiere #15 which debuted Iron Fist, a revision of the Golden Age A=
mazing Man story by Bill Everett with a martial arts twist much like PAM's =
Thunderbolt from some years previous.=20=20
>=20
> A month earlier, Marvel had unleashed the magazine-sized Deadly Hands of =
Kung Fu onto the market.=20
>=20
> A year later Richard Dragon, Kung-Fu Fighter would debut from DC Comics, =
featuring a cover from former "Action Heroes" editor Dick Giordano.=20
>=20
> So between the first and second issues of Yang, a torrent of martial arts=
 comics had hit the stands and more was to come. The competition was going =
to be ferocious. But as we'll see, Yang was up to the challenge.=20
>=20
> More next time.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 I agree the relationship between the lovers? is getting streached but that=
 the way it is. Opium of course the drug of the day was all over and very p=
rofitable. good issue.

=20
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>
> Yang Volume 2, Number 3 is dated July, 1974. It was published by Charlton=
 Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was done by Warr=
en Sattler, who also did the interiors of the book with the guidance of a J=
oe Gill script.=20
>=20
> The story opens with a reprise of the situation between our hero Yang and=
 Yin Li, the daughter of the villain Chao Ku. It is assumed that Yang was k=
illed after jumping from a speeding train in the previous story, but Yin Li=
 is certain he is still alive since she would know in her heart if her belo=
ved were dead. She vows not to make the same mistakes she has made in the p=
ast, but what those mistakes were is uncertain. Chao Ku has put a $10,000 d=
ollar bounty on Yang's head and he is certain that if he is alive that will=
 solve the issue. Yang on the other hand is stealthily entering Chao Ku's l=
air at that moment and confronts the evil Slaver in his main chamber.=20
>=20
> "The Impossible" is a one-page text piece which tells of a village named =
Kuan-Chioh which fears a pirate named Liu-Mien. They go to a wise man to se=
ek counsel about what to do when the pirate appears and he tells them to ge=
t all the metal in the village and create a multitude of fish hooks. They d=
o so and when the pirates appear they are captured in vast elaborate nets a=
nd the hooks in those nets kill most of the enemy. The rest are taken priso=
ner and the boats burned to keep others from becoming pirates. As the wise =
man says, the difficult takes a lot of time to accomplish and the impossibl=
e only a small time longer.=20
>=20
> "Prisoner of Evil" begins as Yang throws a spear into the body of Chao Ku=
, but it turns out it is only a dummy decoy placed in the chair by Yin Li t=
o draw in out her opponent. She kisses Yang but he is leary of her poison r=
ing, but she has gotten rid of it and instead Yang is distracted and finds =
himself trapped inside an iron cage dropped from the ceiling. Chao Ku and A=
.J.Hartley, the railroad robber baron have drinks and enjoy their prisoner'=
s plight and intend to kill him quickly. Yin Li takes the gun and shoots Ya=
ng point blank, but when he is inspected Yang fights back and escapes. He k=
nocks out Yin Li with a nerve punch and carries her unconscious to the roof=
, fighting off thugs all the while. The pair slip into a secret passage whi=
ch leads to ready horses and escape into the city of San Francisco. Yin Li =
takes Yang to a warehouse of opium, but it turns out she has betrayed him y=
et again and Chao Ku is waiting.=20
>=20
> "The Fireship" begins when Yang escapes this most recent plot, setting fi=
re to the warehouse and dodging bullets from Chao Ku and his henchmen. He t=
akes Yin Li and dives out the window into the water of the bay. He swims to=
 the very clipper ship which brought him to America captained by Keegan. Th=
e ship cuts anchor and slips out of the harbor to avoid the fire which is s=
preading. Safely out of harms way, they drop anchor again and then Yang and=
 Yin Li climb to the deck, but they are immediately waylaid and Yang finds =
himself chained to a wall. As he is about to be shot Yin Li again demands t=
he honor and shoots at Yang four times point blank, but instead of killing =
him, she fires at his bonds and frees him. He battles the smugglers and the=
n frees others who have been taken into slavery from China. The clipper com=
es under attack by another boat led by Chao Ku, but Yang fends it off with =
a great cannon found on board. Yin Li though cannot allow her father to be =
killed and attacks Yang and their battle knocks over a lamp setting the boa=
t on fire. The clipper ship burns as well as its cargo of opium, Yin Li ret=
urns to her father, and Yang slips into the bay where sharks gather.=20
>=20
> This issue was reprinted twice, once in 1977 under the Modern Comics labe=
l and again in 1986 as Yang #17, the final issue in the run and one of the =
final Charlton comics ever.=20
>=20
> The battle between Yang and Yin Li gets stranger and stranger. Despite wh=
at he understands about their dual natures, it's getting harder to understa=
nd why he keeps falling for her nonsense. At some level he is gambling her =
good nature will always win out, and so far it seems to be the case, but it=
 makes him seem foolish to keep tumbling blindly into the same pitfall. On =
the plus side, Yang does keep scoring victories against Chao Ku, this time =
destroying much of his opium stores.=20
>=20
> About this time, the Charlton Portfolio by the CPL Gang hit the stands an=
d it had an article on Charlton's martial arts heroes Judomaster and Thunde=
rbolt titled "From the Mystic East" by Doc Larry Brnicky, with Yang getting=
 a mention, and the artwork for issue four's cover being included.=20
>=20
> More to come.
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 I am pretty sure Yang wouldn't have that gold for long in real life but it=
's a good message for tolerance of course. The women he runs into he better=
 keep at a distance and don't drink anymore except your own cup.=20

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> Yang Volume 2, Number 4 is dated September 1974 and was published by Char=
lton Publicatons Inc. The cover was illustrated by Warren Sattler, who also=
 did the interiors. The script was written by Joe Gill. George Wildman was =
the editor.=20
>=20
> "The Hooded Death"  begins in Lucky Nugget, a mining town and specificall=
y the bar owned by Mrs. Brundage where Yang rescues an innocent miner about=
 to be gunned down during a poker game. Yang is able to defeat the thugs in=
 the employ of Brundage who lures Yang into taking a cup of tea which is dr=
ugged. The unconscious Yang awakes penniless and is directed to a unscrupul=
ous banker named Webb. Webb stakes Yang to mine in Grizzly Gulch, sending h=
im there with equipment and a mule. Yang arrives there but soon enough lear=
ns the place gets its name from a ferocious grizzly bear who attacks but is=
 beaten back by Yang. Yang then begins to mine and finds a mother lode of g=
old. After a month of mining he loads up and heads back to Lucky Nugget. Af=
ter leaving the Gulch he is set upon by a sniper but escapes being wounded =
and defeats his attacker, killing him with a single blow to the neck. Addin=
g the body to his load he gets into Lucky Nugget in time to see a robbery i=
n progress which he stops before encountering Webb who knows the name of th=
e sniper, a man named Childrers. Another gunman named Thompson confronts Ya=
ng.=20
>=20
> "Boot Hill Booty!" begins as Thompson is shot by Mrs.Brundage who appears=
 to help Yang. Yang is directed to Boot Hill where he buries Childers. He h=
as one sack of his gold assayed and it proves to be ninety percent pure and=
 Yang puts the remaining sacks into the safe. News of his strike gets to We=
bb and Brundage who plot to lure Yang into trouble. A woman claiming to be =
Brundage's niece takes Yang to her, but a group of thugs interferes and Yan=
g is forced to defeat them. When Yang leaves Brundages, a trap has been set=
 by the local Vigilantes who are actually in the employ of Webb and Brundag=
e and they manage to hogtie Yang and the masked me threaten to hang our her=
o. He fights back successfully until a masked Brundage gets the drop on him=
 and he is put on the back of a horse and a noose put on his neck. But Yang=
 is able to use his great training to escape and in the darkness he evades =
the vigilantes. Webb and Brundage decide to steal Yang's gold but after blo=
wing the safe they find only dirt in the sacks. Wile Yang did strike it ric=
h, he hid the gold in the grave with the body of Chliders and not the safe.=
 The miners in the meantime have elected a sheriff named Morgan who then ar=
rests Brundage and Webb and the other thugs. Yang vows to use his wealth to=
 help free his people from slavery.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" features three letters, mostly of praise for the new seri=
es. There is explanation of a comment made in the letters page of Midnight =
Tales #6 which mentioned that Sanho Kim was working on a superhero series. =
Folks imagined Yang must be that series, and as it turns out they were not =
completely wrong. It turns out that Kim did indeed produce a work titled "W=
rong Country", but it was lost in the mail. The paper shortage at the time =
prevented Charlton from publishing it immediately. The editors also mention=
 that they've gotten few letters to Yang, and that they do not agree person=
ally with the unfavorable attitude toward women reflected in the Yin-Yang p=
hilosophy.
>=20
> This is a solid issue and it's good to see Yang interacting with some new=
 players. Mrs. Brundage fills the female Yin role nicely and while if I wer=
e Yang after this, I'd be a confirmed woman hater. The mining town backdrop=
 is a good one for action, and this issue has a bunch. Yang's willingness t=
o kill his opponents opens up the complexity of the story quite a bit and g=
ives the proceedings some real gravity.=20
>=20
> The cover of this particular issue is a pretty violent one too, and I'm a=
 bit surprised it got past the code. While the image is one which suggest r=
acism, the story inside doesn't really show that at all. It's not Yang's ra=
ce which is a problem for Brundage and Webb, merely his do-gooder habits wh=
ich keep them from profits.=20=20
>=20
> Not mentioned in this issue's letters page, but well known now is that Ya=
ng by Joe Gill and Warren Sattler was the replacement for Kim's lost projec=
t. Later Sanho Kim would be tapped to do the spin-off House of Yang and he =
would not have time to continue Wrong Country which was eventually publishe=
d in the pages of Charlton Bullseye #3 many months later.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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Well, I never saw many of the Yang comics on the stands, one of the perils =
of the pre direct market comics distribution.=C2=A0 Was Yang one of the her=
oes purchased later on by DC?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

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From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #2
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 25, 2011, 7:38 PM



=C2=A0=20



I myself a baby boomer remember the Martial arts craze. Enter the Dragon wa=
s the top film at the time along with Kung Fu fighting song this was a good=
 action issue and yes Yin Li got the best of Yang again lol.=20
--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Due to a paper shortage and the energy crisis in 1974, many of Charlton's=
 comics were delayed for several months. Such was the case with Yang #2 whi=
ch hit the stands six months after the debut issue.=20
>=20
> Yang Volume 2, Number 2 is dated May 1974 and was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the writer is Joe Gill. =
Warren Sattler is again on board as the artist, both for the interiors and =
the for the cover.=20
>=20
> A "Prologue" brings the reader up to date on Yang's story, and how as a s=
tudent Chung Hui saw his father killed by killers of the slaver Chao Ku. Be=
coming a force of good, Chung Hui becomes "Yang" for the people and vows to=
 bring down Chao Ku and his forces including his daughter Yin Li who uses a=
 poison ring to fell our hero and then transports him to the American West =
where he escapes the clutches of those who want to enslave him and others t=
o build the railroad.=20
>=20
> Part 1 "Death in the Desert" begins with a bounty hunter finding Yang in =
the desert after his escape but Yang quickly turns the tables and takes the=
 cowboy's horse and uses it to return to the train where he finds the owner=
 J.L. Hartley, and partner of Chao Ku's. Yang finding some dynamite in a sh=
ed uses it to blow up the train and the tracks, in an attempt to free the s=
laves. He succeeds and leads them into the mountains, but he himself then f=
alls victim to Yin Li who confronts him on horseback and knocks him unconsc=
ious with the butt of a pistol. She chooses not to kill him there, but take=
 to a secret lair where he will not become a martyr.=20
>=20
> "Tang's Tales" is a trio of text stories. "Sim Sung's Song" is the tale o=
f a happy man who sings when he works which pleases a local rich man who th=
en gives Sim Sung gold so he can enjoy life, but which after a short time a=
ctually causes him sadness because it was his life and work which made him =
sing. He returns to his happy ways. "The Respectful Son" tells of a son who=
 is beaten by his father or carelessness with melons and how it is the son'=
s responsibility to only allow himself to be beaten slightly to preserve th=
e honor between father and son, according to Confucius. "The Learner" speak=
s of a man who enters a garden to seek enlightenment where all his needs wi=
ll be met and who stays for twenty-six years proving he's a slow learner, b=
ut a clever fellow.=20
>=20
> Part 2 "Die for Freedom" begins with Yang chained in a cave and about to =
be killed by Yin Li and her thugs. But he snaps his chains instead and esca=
pes fighting the thugs and taking Yin Li deep into the cave where many stat=
ues are located. A message says that those with evil hearts should not pass=
 into the cave and in fact the thugs do fall victim to falling debris. Yin =
Li tries to use her ring on Yang again, but finally he stops her and says t=
hat his feeling for her and her for him are like the Yin-Yang symbol, each =
section possessing a spot of the other making neither of them purely good n=
or purely evil. He escapes the cave and fights his way out finding a horse.=
 He is followed by Hartley's men, Hartley having survived the train explosi=
ons, and Yang fights many of the bounty hunters before returning again to t=
he train. He gets aboard and confronts Hartley and Chao Ku again but is kno=
cked out from behind. The train heads to San Francisco and later
 when they go to kill Yang, they find he has escaped the speeding train hel=
ped by Yin Li.
>=20
> Yang #2 was reprinted in 1985 as Yang #16.=20
>=20
> The story of Yang to this point is a hectic one, with him rushing from fi=
ght to fight with abandon. It has already become something of a gimmick in =
the stories for Yin Li to trip him up, but given the thematic connection th=
ey share, the story is not necessarily damaged by this constant turnabout. =
There was a real attempt to enliven the Western aspects of the story in thi=
s chapter, with lots of men on horseback playing a brief but highly visual =
role.=20
>=20
> The time which passed between the first and second issues of Yang were fr=
uitful ones for those interested in martial arts entertainment. Yang's debu=
t, dated November gets the nod as the first of a wave of martial arts comic=
s which hit the stands in a very short time because of the interest in the =
television show Kung Fu.=20
>=20
> Marvel had the rights to the show apparently but decided instead to creat=
e Shang-Chi, the son of Fu Manchu. The "Master of Kung Fu" debuted in the p=
ages of Special Marvel Edition #16 which had a December, 1973 cover date, o=
ne month after the debut of Charlton's Yang. The adventures of Shang-Chi wo=
uld become the longest-lived of the martial arts comics, if not the first.=
=20
>=20
> Bearing the same cover date of May 1974 as the second issue of Yang, was =
Marvel Premiere #15 which debuted Iron Fist, a revision of the Golden Age A=
mazing Man story by Bill Everett with a martial arts twist much like PAM's =
Thunderbolt from some years previous.=20
>=20
> A month earlier, Marvel had unleashed the magazine-sized Deadly Hands of =
Kung Fu onto the market.=20
>=20
> A year later Richard Dragon, Kung-Fu Fighter would debut from DC Comics, =
featuring a cover from former "Action Heroes" editor Dick Giordano.=20
>=20
> So between the first and second issues of Yang, a torrent of martial arts=
 comics had hit the stands and more was to come. The competition was going =
to be ferocious. But as we'll see, Yang was up to the challenge.=20
>=20
> More next time.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
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No. Only the "Action Heroes" of the Dick Giordano era were picked up by DC.=
 Yang was later and while E-Man was taken in by First Comics before becomin=
g at least partially the property of Joe Staton, Yang went with the rest of=
 the Charlton material into the hands of Richard Broghton and his ACG brand=
.=20

Rip Off

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e:
>
> Well, I never saw many of the Yang comics on the stands, one of the peril=
s of the pre direct market comics distribution.=C2=A0 Was Yang one of the h=
eroes purchased later on by DC?
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Fri, 11/25/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20



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Yang Volume 2, Number 5 is dated November, 1974 and was published by Charlt=
on Publications Inc. The cover is by Warren Sattler who is also the artist =
on the interiors. Joe Gill offers up the script with George Wildman in the =
saddle as editor.=20

"The Beast is Waiting" begins when Yang is challenged by a murderous gunman=
 and Yin Li the deceitful daughter of Chao Ku, Yang's arch enemy and the ma=
n who murdered his father. Yang throws an axe to disarm the gunman and then=
 leaps and overpowers Yin Li who vows again to kill him. He embraces her an=
d they share a passionate kiss, after which he walks away from her. She thr=
eatens him again and shoots repeatedly but harmlessly at his feet as he lea=
ves.=20

The action shifts to the train of A.J.Hartley, the unscrupulous railroad ma=
gnate who uses the coolies supplied by Chao Ku to build his line. He is enj=
oying some drinks with the slaver and opium dealer Chao Ku and Captain Keeg=
an, formerly of a clipper ship Yang burned a few issues previously. They sh=
are their hatred of Yang and enjoy the spectacle of the beast who is caged =
in a special car. It is a shaggy man-beast known in Chao Ku's homeland of C=
hina as the Yeti but called in America Bigfoot. This particular beast was c=
aptured by Paiute Indians and has been tortured by Chao Ku to become a man-=
killer. At that same time, Yang is with some local Paiute Indians talking a=
bout among other things the reality of a man-beast called Bigfoot.=20

The scene shifts again, this time with Yin Li seemingly thrown out the door=
 of her father's headquarters with scorn. She wanders into the rugged terra=
in and is followed by Yang. This is her plan of course to lure Yang into a =
trap, which she springs by falling into a steep canyon. Yang follows her an=
d is observed by Chao Ku, Captain Keegan, and J.L.Hartley  as the Bigfoot a=
ppears and threatens the couple. Yang battles the beast to limited effect w=
hen Yin Li does a turnabout and grabs a branch to help him fend off the sav=
age killer. At that same moment riflemen under Chao Ku's orders begin to fi=
re to kill the Bigfoot to save Yin Li. They hit the Bigfoot and Yin Li and =
Yang realize the creature might be less savage than they imagined.=20

"The Jackals Gather" begins when Yang battles the wounded Bigfoot assisted =
by Yin Li. They are able to fend off the beast, but then gunmen on the cany=
on ledge continue to fire trying to kill Yang. Keegan and Hartley join in o=
n this effort and bullets whiz into the canyon. Yang attempts to climb out =
to confront the attackers and is followed by the Bigfoot who instead of att=
acking Yang overtakes him on the cliff and attacks the gunmen, specifically=
 Keegan who he pitches into the canyon. Other gunmen follow and the Bigfoot=
 is wounded many times. Chao Ku and Hartley have fled. Yang and Yin Li work=
 to bind his wounds and get him into a wagon taking him to a location where=
 another Bigfoot appears to look after the beast. Yang and Yin Li share ano=
ther kiss, despite Yang's knowledge that Yin Li will betray him on another =
day.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" features three letters. One writer complements the book and=
 wants to know if the Yin-Yang myth is a Charlton creation. Another has goo=
d things to say about Gill and Sattler. The third wishes that Charlton woul=
d give the old Action Heroes another try and especially complimentary of Di=
tko's Blue Beetle, but the editor's response suggests Charlton is more inte=
rested in new heroes like E-Man and Yang.=20

To my knowledge this issue of Yang has never been reprinted.=20

I love Bigfoot stories and movies, so needless to say this is a fun comic. =
I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, but the myth and the lore are great=
 fun to follow and explore. I was still a young man when the infamous 1967 =
Patterson-Gimlin film appeared, and I remember seeing it in the theaters. I=
t had a profound effect on my imagination, and I've adored Bigfoot stories =
since.=20

As Bigfoot stories go, this issue of Yang is not bad. The Bigfoot/Yeti is a=
ssumed to exist in the stories and no one really doubts it. The Bigfoot fea=
tured here is at once savage and beastly, but Sattler does a great job of m=
aking it not too ape like. This is another type of beast all together. That=
 Chao Ku has to torture the beast to make it a danger, points to notion tha=
t Bigfoot is a gentle creature capable of great harm when roused. That's so=
me of the charm of the lore, and this story by Gill gets right to it. They =
do call the creature "Bigfoot" in this story, and that name for the man-bea=
st is likely anachronistic, since I don't think it was coined until the 195=
0's. But that's a small glitch in a story that clearly is not meant to be h=
istory, though it makes heady use of an historical setting.=20

More to come.

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Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Charlt=
on Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art was do=
ne by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the script=
 was furnished by Joe Gill.=20

"The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang is =
watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair which =
hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to int=
ercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang ends u=
p throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Yang l=
eaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan who=
 gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bellows,=
 a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transporting th=
e stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house the=
re. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely follow =
after it.=20

Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by his =
own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or at l=
east fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian mansion=
, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foot an=
d encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang overpow=
ers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper named =
Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town, the=
 people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Mikos =
are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrested t=
o get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the gold m=
ine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to rest=
rain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine and=
 forced to work.=20

"The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another prison=
er. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a few ot=
hers before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gun, h=
e demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to booby=
-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill and=
 blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of the =
mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to Bello=
ws who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to drop=
 Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini revea=
ls that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows is =
under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a great =
crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpower =
Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat. Bellows or=
ders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and taking Bello=
ws too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of the town are=
 glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha is returned, B=
ellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to show her grate=
fulness.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary and=
 one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no decisio=
n has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some bac=
k issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that sadly=
 no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note from =
a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20

This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20

This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bellows=
 is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Leavin=
g Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery for =
the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned this is=
sue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a canyon=
 by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in the =
story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's cause=
. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't adhe=
re to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but thi=
s is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves.=20

All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchmen i=
n this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and bet=
ter as the series continues.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off


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Rip, these reviews are great. I look forward to them all, and please keep '=
em coming.

I did a real brief snapshot of Yang for Back Issue #42 (Aug. 2010), along w=
ith a few other Charlton '70s westerns, but your reviews are really cutting=
 into the meat of the series. YANG is an overlooked Charlton classic!

=3DMike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art was =
done by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the scri=
pt was furnished by Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> "The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang i=
s watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair whic=
h hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to i=
ntercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang ends=
 up throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Yang=
 leaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan w=
ho gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bellow=
s, a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transporting =
the stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house t=
here. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely follo=
w after it.=20
>=20
> Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by hi=
s own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or at=
 least fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian mansi=
on, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foot =
and encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang overp=
owers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper name=
d Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town, t=
he people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Miko=
s are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrested=
 to get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the gold=
 mine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to re=
strain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine a=
nd forced to work.=20
>=20
> "The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another pris=
oner. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a few =
others before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gun,=
 he demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to boo=
by-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill a=
nd blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of th=
e mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to Bel=
lows who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to dr=
op Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini rev=
eals that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows i=
s under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a grea=
t crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpowe=
r Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat. Bellows =
orders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and taking Bel=
lows too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of the town a=
re glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha is returned,=
 Bellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to show her gra=
tefulness.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary a=
nd one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no decis=
ion has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some b=
ack issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that sad=
ly no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note fro=
m a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20
>=20
> This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
>=20
> This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bello=
ws is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Leav=
ing Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery fo=
r the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned this =
issue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a cany=
on by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in th=
e story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's cau=
se. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't ad=
here to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but t=
his is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves.=
=20
>=20
> All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchmen=
 in this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and b=
etter as the series continues.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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I agree with that, Michael.=C2=A0 These reviews are pretty thorough.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Wed, 11/30/11, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:


From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #6
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 7:30 PM



=C2=A0=20



Rip, these reviews are great. I look forward to them all, and please keep '=
em coming.

I did a real brief snapshot of Yang for Back Issue #42 (Aug. 2010), along w=
ith a few other Charlton '70s westerns, but your reviews are really cutting=
 into the meat of the series. YANG is an overlooked Charlton classic!

=3DMike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art was =
done by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the scri=
pt was furnished by Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> "The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang i=
s watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair whic=
h hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to i=
ntercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang ends=
 up throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Yang=
 leaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan w=
ho gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bellow=
s, a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transporting =
the stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house t=
here. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely follo=
w after it.=20
>=20
> Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by hi=
s own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or at=
 least fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian mansi=
on, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foot =
and encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang overp=
owers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper name=
d Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town, t=
he people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Miko=
s are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrested=
 to get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the gold=
 mine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to re=
strain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine a=
nd forced to work.=20
>=20
> "The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another pris=
oner. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a few =
others before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gun,=
 he demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to boo=
by-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill a=
nd blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of th=
e mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to Bel=
lows who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to dr=
op Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini rev=
eals that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows i=
s under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a grea=
t crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpowe=
r Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat.
 Bellows orders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and t=
aking Bellows too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of t=
he town are glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha is =
returned, Bellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to sho=
w her gratefulness.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary a=
nd one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no decis=
ion has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some b=
ack issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that sad=
ly no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note fro=
m a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20
>=20
> This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
>=20
> This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bello=
ws is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Leav=
ing Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery fo=
r the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned this =
issue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a cany=
on by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in th=
e story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's cau=
se. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't ad=
here to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but t=
his is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves.=
=20
>=20
> All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchmen=
 in this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and b=
etter as the series continues.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>








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Glad you're liking them. I agree that Yang gets too little attention. It's =
been decades since I read them, and it's been most informative and entertai=
ning to do so again. The Gill-Sattler team gets better and better as the se=
ries progresses.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Rip, these reviews are great. I look forward to them all, and please keep=
 'em coming.
>=20
> I did a real brief snapshot of Yang for Back Issue #42 (Aug. 2010), along=
 with a few other Charlton '70s westerns, but your reviews are really cutti=
ng into the meat of the series. YANG is an overlooked Charlton classic!
>=20
> =3DMike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Ch=
arlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art wa=
s done by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the sc=
ript was furnished by Joe Gill.=20
> >=20
> > "The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang=
 is watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair wh=
ich hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to=
 intercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang en=
ds up throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Ya=
ng leaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan=
 who gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bell=
ows, a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transportin=
g the stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house=
 there. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely fol=
low after it.=20
> >=20
> > Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by =
his own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or =
at least fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian man=
sion, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foo=
t and encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang ove=
rpowers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper na=
med Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town,=
 the people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Mi=
kos are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrest=
ed to get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the go=
ld mine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to =
restrain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine=
 and forced to work.=20
> >=20
> > "The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another pr=
isoner. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a fe=
w others before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gu=
n, he demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to b=
ooby-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill=
 and blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of =
the mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to B=
ellows who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to =
drop Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini r=
eveals that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows=
 is under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a gr=
eat crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpo=
wer Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat. Bellow=
s orders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and taking B=
ellows too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of the town=
 are glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha is returne=
d, Bellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to show her g=
ratefulness.=20
> >=20
> > "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary=
 and one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no dec=
ision has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some=
 back issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that s=
adly no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note f=
rom a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20
> >=20
> > This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
> >=20
> > This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bel=
lows is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Le=
aving Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery =
for the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned thi=
s issue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a ca=
nyon by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in =
the story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's c=
ause. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't =
adhere to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but=
 this is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves=
.=20
> >=20
> > All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchm=
en in this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and=
 better as the series continues.=20
> >=20
> > More to come.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>



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I try to be thorough, though I'm positive there is much more to learn about=
 this series and these talents.=20

Rip Off

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e:
>
> I agree with that, Michael.=C2=A0 These reviews are pretty thorough.
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Wed, 11/30/11, Michael <charspot01@...> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: Michael <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #6
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 7:30 PM
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Rip, these reviews are great. I look forward to them all, and please keep=
 'em coming.
>=20
> I did a real brief snapshot of Yang for Back Issue #42 (Aug. 2010), along=
 with a few other Charlton '70s westerns, but your reviews are really cutti=
ng into the meat of the series. YANG is an overlooked Charlton classic!
>=20
> =3DMike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Ch=
arlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art wa=
s done by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the sc=
ript was furnished by Joe Gill.=20
> >=20
> > "The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang=
 is watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair wh=
ich hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to=
 intercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang en=
ds up throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Ya=
ng leaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan=
 who gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bell=
ows, a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transportin=
g the stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house=
 there. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely fol=
low after it.=20
> >=20
> > Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by =
his own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or =
at least fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian man=
sion, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foo=
t and encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang ove=
rpowers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper na=
med Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town,=
 the people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Mi=
kos are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrest=
ed to get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the go=
ld mine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to =
restrain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine=
 and forced to work.=20
> >=20
> > "The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another pr=
isoner. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a fe=
w others before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gu=
n, he demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to b=
ooby-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill=
 and blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of =
the mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to B=
ellows who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to =
drop Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini r=
eveals that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows=
 is under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a gr=
eat crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpo=
wer Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat.
>  Bellows orders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and=
 taking Bellows too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of=
 the town are glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha i=
s returned, Bellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to s=
how her gratefulness.=20
> >=20
> > "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary=
 and one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no dec=
ision has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some=
 back issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that s=
adly no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note f=
rom a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20
> >=20
> > This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
> >=20
> > This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bel=
lows is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Le=
aving Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery =
for the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned thi=
s issue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a ca=
nyon by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in =
the story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's c=
ause. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't =
adhere to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but=
 this is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves=
.=20
> >=20
> > All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchm=
en in this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and=
 better as the series continues.=20
> >=20
> > More to come.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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Yang Volume 3, Number 7 is dated April, 1975 and was published by Charlton =
Publications, Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover is a beautiful p=
ainting by Warren Sattler, the artist on the interior of the comic too. The=
 script is supplied by Joe Gill.=20

The story "Queen of Evil" begins in Chinatown with Chao Ku, Yang's enemy, i=
ssuing a bounty on Yang for $50,000 dollars. He also comments that while he=
 wanted a son, his lovely Yin Li's evil is all he could've hoped for. Yin L=
i and a one-eyed assassin find Yang at a temple and get the drop on him. Th=
e hog-tie the hero and carry him through the street to Chao Ku. But Yang wh=
en confronted by a swordsman ready to take his head, is able to have the bl=
ade cut his bonds instead and gets hold of the massive sword and throws int=
o the body of Chao Ku, killng the the slaver and opium overlord. Chao Ku's =
body is pinned into his chair and Yin Li overcome with grief and anger atta=
cks Yang but gets caught by him and they go to the basement together where =
she tries to trick him with a basket of cobras. Yang throws the cobra on th=
e henchmen, evades Yin Li's poison ring one more time and jumps out the win=
dow. He picks up a rifle and shoots a guard and then makes good his escape =
from the compound.
Chao Ku's body is laid out and then Yin Li takes charge. Her first act is t=
o poison Huk Hui a ruthless killer she does not trust. She orders Captain K=
eegan to bring in the myriad creatures he's brought from Borneo and elsewhe=
re. Meanwhile Yang is being hunted by hounds.

"The Valley of 1000 Deaths" begins as the hounds are replaced by cheetahs w=
ho Yang can only evade by running them into a cactus field. Momentarily saf=
e from the hunters Yang ponders his situation being hunted by Yin Li's men.=
 Meanwhile Yin Li continues to solidify her position by killing off more un=
trustworthy men. She hires three Apache Indians led by Three Arrows to hunt=
 down Yang. These killers though relentless hunters are nonetheless dispatc=
hed quickly by Yang when he kicks two of them from a high cliff. He then ru=
ns to confront Yin Li, but she is prepared and he is taken prisoner and put=
 into a cage with ferocious Komodo Dragons. Chained Yang is helpless but he=
 soon breaks a chain and battles the giant lizards, and eventually they thr=
eaten Yin Li too. Yang sweeps up his beloved and they fight off the dragons=
, Yin Li shooting her pistol to assist their escape. Outside they share ant=
her kiss before Yang leaves and Yin Li leads her killers in another directi=
on.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" features two letters one being somewhat critical of Yang fo=
r being too like other martial arts heroes in other comics and the second w=
anting Charlton to do away with some of its romance books to make room for =
Sanho Kim's Wrong Country feature. The editors reject both opinions.

This issue has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20

This was my very first issue of Yang, and it's a dynamite example of this s=
eries. Warren Sattler's artwork always reliable and his wonderfully atmosph=
eric cover for this issue might the best the series ever enjoyed. The death=
 of Chao Ku was a good move for the series, clearing the way for desperatel=
y needed character development,but it's strange how this killing of Chao Ku=
 by Yang is so similar to a scene from the previous issue where Chao Ku's f=
ate was left open somewhat. There's no doubt in this issue that Yang kills =
him quite dead.

In fact Yang is quite bloodthirsty in the series. He shoots a rifle this is=
sue and kills a guard, and just a few issues back he killed a man with a pi=
stol. He also kills the two Apaches and various of Yin Li's guards this iss=
ue. Yin Li too is given two scenes which serve only to show how ruthless th=
is new "Queen of Evil" will be. This is a surprisingly rugged series when i=
t comes to violence, though Sattler's warm and inviting art style masks ove=
r much of that lethal mayhem.=20

We've moved into the second half of the original Yang run and the series ha=
s been solid but a bit static. With the turning point of the death of Chao =
Ku, hopefully things will open up a bit.=20

Much more to come.=20

Rip Off


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 This was an interesting issue. Bigfoot and yeti great subjects add another=
 dimension to great story.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Yang Volume 2, Number 5 is dated November, 1974 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The cover is by Warren Sattler who is also the artis=
t on the interiors. Joe Gill offers up the script with George Wildman in th=
e saddle as editor.=20
>=20
> "The Beast is Waiting" begins when Yang is challenged by a murderous gunm=
an and Yin Li the deceitful daughter of Chao Ku, Yang's arch enemy and the =
man who murdered his father. Yang throws an axe to disarm the gunman and th=
en leaps and overpowers Yin Li who vows again to kill him. He embraces her =
and they share a passionate kiss, after which he walks away from her. She t=
hreatens him again and shoots repeatedly but harmlessly at his feet as he l=
eaves.=20
>=20
> The action shifts to the train of A.J.Hartley, the unscrupulous railroad =
magnate who uses the coolies supplied by Chao Ku to build his line. He is e=
njoying some drinks with the slaver and opium dealer Chao Ku and Captain Ke=
egan, formerly of a clipper ship Yang burned a few issues previously. They =
share their hatred of Yang and enjoy the spectacle of the beast who is cage=
d in a special car. It is a shaggy man-beast known in Chao Ku's homeland of=
 China as the Yeti but called in America Bigfoot. This particular beast was=
 captured by Paiute Indians and has been tortured by Chao Ku to become a ma=
n-killer. At that same time, Yang is with some local Paiute Indians talking=
 about among other things the reality of a man-beast called Bigfoot.=20
>=20
> The scene shifts again, this time with Yin Li seemingly thrown out the do=
or of her father's headquarters with scorn. She wanders into the rugged ter=
rain and is followed by Yang. This is her plan of course to lure Yang into =
a trap, which she springs by falling into a steep canyon. Yang follows her =
and is observed by Chao Ku, Captain Keegan, and J.L.Hartley  as the Bigfoot=
 appears and threatens the couple. Yang battles the beast to limited effect=
 when Yin Li does a turnabout and grabs a branch to help him fend off the s=
avage killer. At that same moment riflemen under Chao Ku's orders begin to =
fire to kill the Bigfoot to save Yin Li. They hit the Bigfoot and Yin Li an=
d Yang realize the creature might be less savage than they imagined.=20
>=20
> "The Jackals Gather" begins when Yang battles the wounded Bigfoot assiste=
d by Yin Li. They are able to fend off the beast, but then gunmen on the ca=
nyon ledge continue to fire trying to kill Yang. Keegan and Hartley join in=
 on this effort and bullets whiz into the canyon. Yang attempts to climb ou=
t to confront the attackers and is followed by the Bigfoot who instead of a=
ttacking Yang overtakes him on the cliff and attacks the gunmen, specifical=
ly Keegan who he pitches into the canyon. Other gunmen follow and the Bigfo=
ot is wounded many times. Chao Ku and Hartley have fled. Yang and Yin Li wo=
rk to bind his wounds and get him into a wagon taking him to a location whe=
re another Bigfoot appears to look after the beast. Yang and Yin Li share a=
nother kiss, despite Yang's knowledge that Yin Li will betray him on anothe=
r day.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" features three letters. One writer complements the book a=
nd wants to know if the Yin-Yang myth is a Charlton creation. Another has g=
ood things to say about Gill and Sattler. The third wishes that Charlton wo=
uld give the old Action Heroes another try and especially complimentary of =
Ditko's Blue Beetle, but the editor's response suggests Charlton is more in=
terested in new heroes like E-Man and Yang.=20
>=20
> To my knowledge this issue of Yang has never been reprinted.=20
>=20
> I love Bigfoot stories and movies, so needless to say this is a fun comic=
. I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, but the myth and the lore are gre=
at fun to follow and explore. I was still a young man when the infamous 196=
7 Patterson-Gimlin film appeared, and I remember seeing it in the theaters.=
 It had a profound effect on my imagination, and I've adored Bigfoot storie=
s since.=20
>=20
> As Bigfoot stories go, this issue of Yang is not bad. The Bigfoot/Yeti is=
 assumed to exist in the stories and no one really doubts it. The Bigfoot f=
eatured here is at once savage and beastly, but Sattler does a great job of=
 making it not too ape like. This is another type of beast all together. Th=
at Chao Ku has to torture the beast to make it a danger, points to notion t=
hat Bigfoot is a gentle creature capable of great harm when roused. That's =
some of the charm of the lore, and this story by Gill gets right to it. The=
y do call the creature "Bigfoot" in this story, and that name for the man-b=
east is likely anachronistic, since I don't think it was coined until the 1=
950's. But that's a small glitch in a story that clearly is not meant to be=
 history, though it makes heady use of an historical setting.=20
>=20
> More to come.
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 Good job again. Jade is worth a fortune today.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Yang Volume 3, Number 6 is dated February, 1975 and was published by Char=
lton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman, and the cover art was =
done by Warren Sattler. Sattler also did the interior artwork, and the scri=
pt was furnished by Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> "The Sacred Jade Buddha" begins in San Francisco's Chinatown where Yang i=
s watching Chao Ku being carried down the street in an elaborate chair whic=
h hides a stolen Jade Buddha from the temple of An-Yang. Yang attempts to i=
ntercept the villain but runs into his thugs. A fight follows and Yang ends=
 up throwing a sword into the body of his foe. Yin Li is distraught as Yang=
 leaps out of a window and goes to the home of Chinatown's leader Wu Chan w=
ho gives Yang some help and they intercept the carriage of Eugene D. Bellow=
s, a rich man who controls his own town in Nevada. Bellows is transporting =
the stolen Buddha to be used as an attraction in his proposed opera house t=
here. The carriage proves to be too fast and Yang is forced to merely follo=
w after it.=20
>=20
> Bellows arrives in his the town of Bellows, Nevada which is guarded by hi=
s own uniformed militia and inhabited by people who are utterly loyal or at=
 least fearful of the rich man. When he arrives at his lush Victorian mansi=
on, he meets the Italian prima donna named Cerini. Yang runs after on foot =
and encounters a gunman named Pippin Kramer, one of Bellows men. Yang overp=
owers him and takes his horse. Next Yang is next assaulted by a sniper name=
d Dutch. Again Yang is triumphant and takes Dutch's rifle. Entering town, t=
he people realize he has beaten these men and two men named Smitty and Miko=
s are careful to arrest him at gunpoint. Yang allows himself to be arrested=
 to get to the center of the Bellows operation which happens to be the gold=
 mine. Yang is taken captive into the mine and given a ball and chain to re=
strain him. He is placed among the many other men made slaves in the mine a=
nd forced to work.=20
>=20
> "The Death Pit" begins when Yang stops a guard from whipping another pris=
oner. He yanks the man off his feet with his own whip and beats down a few =
others before grabbing a gun and shooting one of the guards. Using the gun,=
 he demands that he and the other slaves be freed. They use dynamite to boo=
by-trap one of the ore cars which tips its load into the great stamp mill a=
nd blows the operation to smithereens. Yang then leads the slaves out of th=
e mine but allows himself to again be captured. He is tied and taken to Bel=
lows who vows vengeance for all the money Yang has cost him. He plans to dr=
op Yang into his great smelter and obliterate the hero. But then Cerini rev=
eals that she is not only a singer but a federal marshal and that Bellows i=
s under arrest. Bellows gets the drop on her and she is caught up in a grea=
t crane bucket to be dropped into the smelter, but Yang is able to overpowe=
r Bellows and holds him helpless above the smelter's roiling heat. Bellows =
orders that they be freed and then getting the stolen Buddha and taking Bel=
lows too into the carriage Yang bolts out of town. The people of the town a=
re glad to see the tyrant leave and take no action. The Buddha is returned,=
 Bellows is taken into custody and Cerini gives Yang a kiss to show her gra=
tefulness.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters this time. Both are complimentary a=
nd one looks forward to Sanho Kim's Wrong Country but is told that no decis=
ion has been yet made to start new books. A writer from Canada wants some b=
ack issues and a subscription and is told how to do the latter and that sad=
ly no back issue can be had from Charlton directly. It's a wistful note fro=
m a time before comics shops when old comics were difficult to locate.=20
>=20
> This comic has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
>=20
> This is a solid issue of Yang, if it has a rather lackluster cover. Bello=
ws is a worthy opponent and a nice break from Chao Ku and his cronies. Leav=
ing Chao Ku pinned to the wall with a sword makes an interesting mystery fo=
r the next issue, if it is indeed dealt with. Captain Keegan returned this =
issue and he looked pretty bad off last time after being thrown into a cany=
on by Bigfoot. Yin Li makes a cameo admittedly but for once the woman in th=
e story turns out to be a good character and actually helpful to Yang's cau=
se. Charlton has stated a few times in the letters pages that they don't ad=
here to the aspects of Yin-Yang which regard women as inherently evil but t=
his is the first time they've demonstrated that in the stories themselves.=
=20
>=20
> All in all a solid and entertaining issue with a great pace. The henchmen=
 in this one are nicely distinctive and Sattler's artwork gets better and b=
etter as the series continues.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 I also think it was a good move to bump him off. Keep it coming Rip.


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>
> Yang Volume 3, Number 7 is dated April, 1975 and was published by Charlto=
n Publications, Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover is a beautiful=
 painting by Warren Sattler, the artist on the interior of the comic too. T=
he script is supplied by Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> The story "Queen of Evil" begins in Chinatown with Chao Ku, Yang's enemy,=
 issuing a bounty on Yang for $50,000 dollars. He also comments that while =
he wanted a son, his lovely Yin Li's evil is all he could've hoped for. Yin=
 Li and a one-eyed assassin find Yang at a temple and get the drop on him. =
The hog-tie the hero and carry him through the street to Chao Ku. But Yang =
when confronted by a swordsman ready to take his head, is able to have the =
blade cut his bonds instead and gets hold of the massive sword and throws i=
nto the body of Chao Ku, killng the the slaver and opium overlord. Chao Ku'=
s body is pinned into his chair and Yin Li overcome with grief and anger at=
tacks Yang but gets caught by him and they go to the basement together wher=
e she tries to trick him with a basket of cobras. Yang throws the cobra on =
the henchmen, evades Yin Li's poison ring one more time and jumps out the w=
indow. He picks up a rifle and shoots a guard and then makes good his escap=
e from the compound.
> Chao Ku's body is laid out and then Yin Li takes charge. Her first act is=
 to poison Huk Hui a ruthless killer she does not trust. She orders Captain=
 Keegan to bring in the myriad creatures he's brought from Borneo and elsew=
here. Meanwhile Yang is being hunted by hounds.
>=20
> "The Valley of 1000 Deaths" begins as the hounds are replaced by cheetahs=
 who Yang can only evade by running them into a cactus field. Momentarily s=
afe from the hunters Yang ponders his situation being hunted by Yin Li's me=
n. Meanwhile Yin Li continues to solidify her position by killing off more =
untrustworthy men. She hires three Apache Indians led by Three Arrows to hu=
nt down Yang. These killers though relentless hunters are nonetheless dispa=
tched quickly by Yang when he kicks two of them from a high cliff. He then =
runs to confront Yin Li, but she is prepared and he is taken prisoner and p=
ut into a cage with ferocious Komodo Dragons. Chained Yang is helpless but =
he soon breaks a chain and battles the giant lizards, and eventually they t=
hreaten Yin Li too. Yang sweeps up his beloved and they fight off the drago=
ns, Yin Li shooting her pistol to assist their escape. Outside they share a=
nther kiss before Yang leaves and Yin Li leads her killers in another direc=
tion.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" features two letters one being somewhat critical of Yang =
for being too like other martial arts heroes in other comics and the second=
 wanting Charlton to do away with some of its romance books to make room fo=
r Sanho Kim's Wrong Country feature. The editors reject both opinions.
>=20
> This issue has not been reprinted to my knowledge.=20
>=20
> This was my very first issue of Yang, and it's a dynamite example of this=
 series. Warren Sattler's artwork always reliable and his wonderfully atmos=
pheric cover for this issue might the best the series ever enjoyed. The dea=
th of Chao Ku was a good move for the series, clearing the way for desperat=
ely needed character development,but it's strange how this killing of Chao =
Ku by Yang is so similar to a scene from the previous issue where Chao Ku's=
 fate was left open somewhat. There's no doubt in this issue that Yang kill=
s him quite dead.
>=20
> In fact Yang is quite bloodthirsty in the series. He shoots a rifle this =
issue and kills a guard, and just a few issues back he killed a man with a =
pistol. He also kills the two Apaches and various of Yin Li's guards this i=
ssue. Yin Li too is given two scenes which serve only to show how ruthless =
this new "Queen of Evil" will be. This is a surprisingly rugged series when=
 it comes to violence, though Sattler's warm and inviting art style masks o=
ver much of that lethal mayhem.=20
>=20
> We've moved into the second half of the original Yang run and the series =
has been solid but a bit static. With the turning point of the death of Cha=
o Ku, hopefully things will open up a bit.=20
>=20
> Much more to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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Yang Volume 3, Number 8 is dated June, 1975 and was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was painted by War=
ren Sattler who is also the artist on the interiors. The script was supplie=
d by Joe Gill.=20

After a two-page reprise of the story of how Yang came to America, "Night o=
f the Wolf" begins right away with an attack by gray timber wolves on a min=
er. Yang intercedes and is attacked himself. The wolves are controlled by a=
 woman wearing a wolf skin mask, shirt and cape. Yang fends off the wolves =
and is about to unmask his attacker when he is struck from behind by a gun =
butt wielded by the Wolf woman's partner named Blackman. The pair ride away=
 leaving the wolves to kill and consume Yang, but he awakens and takes to t=
he trees to escape the voracious beasts.=20

The woman resumes her real identity of Miss Rebecca a seamstress who lives =
with her Aunt Edith in a local boarding house. Other miners arrive and Yang=
 climbs down from the trees and tells them of the attack. He then seeks ref=
uge and goes to Miss Rebecca's boarding house and surprisingly is given a r=
oom. He recognizes his attacker when he sees a wolf whelp in the house. Non=
etheless he stays and gets a bath and a some sleep. But the tea he had earl=
ier seems to give him nightmares about wolves and his sleep is restless, es=
pecially when Rebecca and her wolf peek in on him.=20

The next morning he seeks information and learns that Rebecca's father was =
a gambler who was found cheating and was hanged by the local miners. Rebecc=
a couldn't stop it. Yang hears a wolf and heads out of town to investigate =
and finds Rebecca seemingly being attacked by a large wolf.

"The Killer Wolves" begins as Yang finds that Rebecca tricked him and she h=
olds him down as the wolves gather. He though is able to turn the tables an=
d gets her in a hold and uses her as a hostage to return to town. But meanw=
hile Blackman has been talking down Yang and making it seem he might the vi=
llain. When Yang and Rebecca return to town Yang is arrested. He soon learn=
s the Sheriff is in on the conspiracy with Blackman and Rebecca. A Yang lan=
guishes in jail the wolves prowl the town. Eventually Rebecca in her wolf g=
ear appears and goes to the jail to set her wolves on Yang yet again. She l=
eaves as the wolves stalk the hero in his now open jail cell. Rebecca chang=
es clothes, gathers up the gold she has stolen and leaves town. Yang climbs=
 into the rafters to escape the wolves while Blackman and the Sheriff have =
a laugh while they listen to the attack.=20

But Yang is able to fend off the wolves one more time and locks them in the=
 cell. He then gets a horse and goes after Rebecca. Blackman and the Sherif=
f realize they've been double-crossed but the miners of the town overhear t=
heir talk and take the pair into custody for a miner's court which seems li=
kely to end in a hanging for both of them. Yang pursues Rebecca but her wag=
on comes under attack by wolves she does not control and she, her panicked =
horse, and her wagon full of stolen gold tumble over the cliff. Yang realiz=
es the wolves will get to her body before him and he heads back to town and=
 meets the miners who have taken back control.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" offers up three letters this time. One comments on how fool=
ish Yang is to allow Yin Li to constantly get the drop on him. One apprecia=
tes the complexity of their romance. And the third purports to be from the =
sister of a young boy who reads Yang. She is upset by the Yin-Yang legend w=
hich paints women as evil and she plans to tell her mother and so stop her =
brother from learning such vile things.=20

This issue of Yang has never been reprinted.

We have another issue of Yang in which Yin Li plays little part. It is agai=
n a nice change of pace as Yang does find himself battling another evil wom=
an for sure, but this one is certifiable. Once again Yang finds himself get=
ting drugged by a woman, and you would think he'd learn eventually.=20

The action in this one is nicely varied, but Yang never really gets into mu=
ch of a real fight with the wolves, as he usually uses his acrobatic skills=
 to merely evade them. Having Rebecca wear a wolf skin outfit does sell the=
 idea of this series as something akin to "superheroes", but not all that m=
uch really.

I did like that Yang recognized Rebecca as his attacker pretty much immedia=
tely, and so saved us pages of him seeming to be dunce. But then that does =
bring back that conundrum of his taking tea from her. I guess we are just s=
upposed to accept that the dark spot in Yang's mostly white soul just can't=
 say no to drugged concoctions from shady women.=20

The Yang universe is about to get bigger later in the summer of 1975. More =
to come next time for sure.=20

Rip Off


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 No more tea ! good job.


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:
>
> Yang Volume 3, Number 8 is dated June, 1975 and was published by Charlton=
 Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was painted by W=
arren Sattler who is also the artist on the interiors. The script was suppl=
ied by Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> After a two-page reprise of the story of how Yang came to America, "Night=
 of the Wolf" begins right away with an attack by gray timber wolves on a m=
iner. Yang intercedes and is attacked himself. The wolves are controlled by=
 a woman wearing a wolf skin mask, shirt and cape. Yang fends off the wolve=
s and is about to unmask his attacker when he is struck from behind by a gu=
n butt wielded by the Wolf woman's partner named Blackman. The pair ride aw=
ay leaving the wolves to kill and consume Yang, but he awakens and takes to=
 the trees to escape the voracious beasts.=20
>=20
> The woman resumes her real identity of Miss Rebecca a seamstress who live=
s with her Aunt Edith in a local boarding house. Other miners arrive and Ya=
ng climbs down from the trees and tells them of the attack. He then seeks r=
efuge and goes to Miss Rebecca's boarding house and surprisingly is given a=
 room. He recognizes his attacker when he sees a wolf whelp in the house. N=
onetheless he stays and gets a bath and a some sleep. But the tea he had ea=
rlier seems to give him nightmares about wolves and his sleep is restless, =
especially when Rebecca and her wolf peek in on him.=20
>=20
> The next morning he seeks information and learns that Rebecca's father wa=
s a gambler who was found cheating and was hanged by the local miners. Rebe=
cca couldn't stop it. Yang hears a wolf and heads out of town to investigat=
e and finds Rebecca seemingly being attacked by a large wolf.
>=20
> "The Killer Wolves" begins as Yang finds that Rebecca tricked him and she=
 holds him down as the wolves gather. He though is able to turn the tables =
and gets her in a hold and uses her as a hostage to return to town. But mea=
nwhile Blackman has been talking down Yang and making it seem he might the =
villain. When Yang and Rebecca return to town Yang is arrested. He soon lea=
rns the Sheriff is in on the conspiracy with Blackman and Rebecca. A Yang l=
anguishes in jail the wolves prowl the town. Eventually Rebecca in her wolf=
 gear appears and goes to the jail to set her wolves on Yang yet again. She=
 leaves as the wolves stalk the hero in his now open jail cell. Rebecca cha=
nges clothes, gathers up the gold she has stolen and leaves town. Yang clim=
bs into the rafters to escape the wolves while Blackman and the Sheriff hav=
e a laugh while they listen to the attack.=20
>=20
> But Yang is able to fend off the wolves one more time and locks them in t=
he cell. He then gets a horse and goes after Rebecca. Blackman and the Sher=
iff realize they've been double-crossed but the miners of the town overhear=
 their talk and take the pair into custody for a miner's court which seems =
likely to end in a hanging for both of them. Yang pursues Rebecca but her w=
agon comes under attack by wolves she does not control and she, her panicke=
d horse, and her wagon full of stolen gold tumble over the cliff. Yang real=
izes the wolves will get to her body before him and he heads back to town a=
nd meets the miners who have taken back control.=20
>=20
> "Yin-Yang Mail" offers up three letters this time. One comments on how fo=
olish Yang is to allow Yin Li to constantly get the drop on him. One apprec=
iates the complexity of their romance. And the third purports to be from th=
e sister of a young boy who reads Yang. She is upset by the Yin-Yang legend=
 which paints women as evil and she plans to tell her mother and so stop he=
r brother from learning such vile things.=20
>=20
> This issue of Yang has never been reprinted.
>=20
> We have another issue of Yang in which Yin Li plays little part. It is ag=
ain a nice change of pace as Yang does find himself battling another evil w=
oman for sure, but this one is certifiable. Once again Yang finds himself g=
etting drugged by a woman, and you would think he'd learn eventually.=20
>=20
> The action in this one is nicely varied, but Yang never really gets into =
much of a real fight with the wolves, as he usually uses his acrobatic skil=
ls to merely evade them. Having Rebecca wear a wolf skin outfit does sell t=
he idea of this series as something akin to "superheroes", but not all that=
 much really.
>=20
> I did like that Yang recognized Rebecca as his attacker pretty much immed=
iately, and so saved us pages of him seeming to be dunce. But then that doe=
s bring back that conundrum of his taking tea from her. I guess we are just=
 supposed to accept that the dark spot in Yang's mostly white soul just can=
't say no to drugged concoctions from shady women.=20
>=20
> The Yang universe is about to get bigger later in the summer of 1975. Mor=
e to come next time for sure.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 A story in Fightin Army by Will Franz. The story is about a captain accuse=
d of murder who hides out in the German army. A very good story of survival=
 and trying not to betray his country. This was reprinted once and his cons=
idered a top notch ww2 story.


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Subject: The Yang Reports #9
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House of Yang Volume 1, Number 1 is dated July, 1975 and was published by C=
harlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was paint=
ed by Sanho Kim who is also the artist on the interiors. The script was sup=
plied by Joe Gill. Kim was the artist originally intended to launch Charlto=
n's martial arts series, but thanks to the vagaries of the postal service, =
that work was lost for a time and the saga of Yang as we now know it was qu=
ickly developed by Gill and Warren Sattler and hit the stands. Now Sanho ha=
s been tapped to do the spin-off of the successful series.

"Empress of Evil" begins in the 1890's in China. We learn that in addition =
to his son Yang, Chung Yuan also tutored Sun Yang, a nephew in the ways of =
Yin and Yang, pressing both boys to follow the good path of Yang. Sun Yang =
is gone when Chao Ku was killed by order of Chao Ku and Yang was captured a=
nd taken to America. Eva Ku, blonde and beautiful but deadly woman takes co=
ntrol of Chao Ku's estate. She and her consort Nevil Pryce know of Sun Yang=
's existence, but do not fear him since he is likely to be killed fighting =
Chinese warlords in the North.=20

The scene shifts to the court of warlord Yat Po who has captured the black-=
haired Sun Yang, but who escapes and attacks the warlord. After a furious b=
attle, Sun Yang escapes but the rumor is that he has killed Yat Po. He head=
s back to the estate of his Uncle after an absence of four years. He is sus=
picious of new cargo sheds on the estate and takes caution, entering throug=
h a secret passage hidden in a well. But Eva Ku knows of this secret passag=
e and is waiting for the surprised Sun Yang when he emerges from the secret=
 door. She confronts the hero and tries to seduce him with herself and thre=
ats. She reveals she is the half-sister of Yin Li, the nemesis of Yang in A=
merica. But Sun rejects her and she has her giant bodyguard Suto attack him=
. After a ferocious battle, Sun Yang defeats him but is caught off guard by=
 Eva Ku's blow dart disguised as a cigarette holder.=20

"A Breath of Death" begins as Sun is struck by the dart. Pryce thinks Sun i=
s dead, but Eva Ku says that is not so but that he must be gotten rid of. S=
un Yang is taken to a cell where water rains down upon him. Bound he is cer=
tain to die, but Chung Yuan's clerk shows up and gives him a knife. Using t=
he knife he escapes the trap and gets updated on the doings around the esta=
te and of the fate of  Chung Yuan and his son Yang. Sun then decides to att=
ack the source of Eva Ku's power, her trade in opium and plots to attack he=
r junk. He does so, confronts Eva Ku stopping her from shooting him by knoc=
king her out. A battle ensues and Pryce tries to use the deck gun to sink t=
he sampan which brought Sun Yang out to the junk. But Sun jams the gun and =
it explodes destroying the junk in a furious fire. Sun Yang escapes and reg=
rets the seeming deaths of his foes.=20

"Welcome to the House of Yang" is a text piece which talks about Charlton's=
 first martial arts hero Judomaster and then  discusses the success of Yang=
. Sanho Kim's special qualifications as a native of Korea and a skilled mar=
tial artist himself are put forth and the some hints about Sun Yang's adven=
tures against the more modern Japanese in the next issue is teased.

This story has been reprinted thrice that I know of. Once in 1978 under the=
 Modern Comics logo, again in Australia under the Gredown label, and yet ag=
ain in the United States and Canada under the Avalon (ACG) banner.=20

The formula which worked so effectively in Yang is reproduced here almost e=
xactly, save for the setting. Sun Yang is the good hero and male, and Eva i=
s the evil villain and female. It's a basic format that stood Yang in good =
stead, but was already becoming tedious. This series was published in the o=
ff months of the bimonthly Yang comic, so Charlton was delivering martial a=
rts action each and every month.=20=20

This series seems more authentic than the original Yang, and that's of cour=
se because of the immense talent and special circumstances of its artist Sa=
nho Kim. Sanho was the best choice for a series like this than anyone then =
working in comics. The way some reviews have read, it's House of Yang which=
 seems to be considered the primary entry by Charlton in the martial arts g=
enre at this time. The series sure seems to have been reprinted more often.=
=20

More to come as we return to the original Yang next time.=20

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Subject: The Yang Reports #10
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Yang Volume 3, Number 9 is dated September, 1975 and was published by Charl=
ton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover is painted by=
 Warren Sattler, and Sattler also did the artwork on the inside of the comi=
c. Joe Gill wrote the script.=20

"Brides for Sale" begins with Yang helping a young blonde woman who is bein=
g attacked by Comanches. He fends off the attackers, takes a horse and the =
two of them ride back to her camp, despite her protests to the contrary. Th=
e men of the camp shoot back at the Comanches, saving Yang and the woman, b=
ut quickly Yang and the woman are punished for bringing the danger back to =
camp. Brother James, a seemingly religious leader has them whipped and forc=
es Yang to become a servant in the camp.=20

Yang quickly learns the women are being held against their will, having bee=
n tricked into coming West to find husbands and success they are beaten and=
 live in fear. He uses the chances he has to train the women in Kung Fu, an=
d they prove to be quick learners. Eventually they reach the town of Gutter=
 Gulch where Brother James hopes to sell the women to the many unscrupulous=
 men who live there.=20

Knowing their time is almost up, the women disguise themselves as "The Mask=
ed Furies" to begin Part II. They attack the men and take shelter in an old=
 mine. Yang though goes to learn what's happening and gets captured. The wo=
man he saved to begin with named Trudi Weiser goes into town as a decoy and=
 succeeds along with the other Furies in freeing Yang. A battle ensues and =
the corrupt men of the town are defeated and Brother James last trick, a gu=
n in his Bible proves ineffective. Yang leaves the women in charge of their=
 fates and along with the good folks of Gutter Gulch, hopefully they will b=
uild good lives. Yang walks into the sunset.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" lives up to its name for the first time. It features two le=
tters, one to the editors by a young man which has mostly praise for the co=
mic and another addressed to Yin Li from a young woman who wonders why Yin =
is so often found in the role of the baddie in the stories and hopes she wi=
ll mend her ways.

This is a solid, exceedingly well-paced issue. The religious fanatic Brothe=
r James is a despicable type and revealed to be a hypocrite. The women this=
 time are all good and Yang helps them, a big change for the series where w=
omen are often untrustworthy. The one fault in the story is the speed with =
which the Furies learn Kung Fu, but that's unavoidable. It often seems in t=
hese types of stories that years of training can be transferred in a few da=
ys, and that's ludicrous. But this isn't the only time that flaw as been se=
en in a story, comic book or otherwise.=20

The team of Gill and Sattler continue to impress. This issue of Yang makes =
mention of Sun Yang and hints that Yang will head back East to find him. Th=
e new series House of Yang is given a plug.=20

More on that spin-off next time.=20

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Subject: First Comics Update?
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Anyone have news about the current status of the First Comics revival? I'm =
eager to get hold of the E-Man trade, and I've long ago sent payment to the=
m for said trade, but I've heard nothing and we are well past the time it w=
as supposed to have dropped.

Any news would be greatly appreciated.

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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Anyone have news about the current status of the First Comics revival? I'=
m eager to get hold of the E-Man trade, and I've long ago sent payment to t=
hem for said trade, but I've heard nothing and we are well past the time it=
 was supposed to have dropped.
>=20
> Any news would be greatly appreciated.
>=20
> Rip Off
>


They now have a website, a little basic but you can order the initial relea=
ses - http//www.firstcomicsinc.com

They also made an appearance at the last New York Comic Con.

TC


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House of Yang Volume 1, Number 2 is dated October, 1975 and was published b=
y Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The cover was pa=
inted by Sanho Kim who is also the artist on the interior pages as well. Th=
e script was supplied by Joe Gill.=20

Part One "The Invaders" begins with Sun Yang in the North of China studying=
 with I-Ho-Ch'uan (The Society of the Righteous and Harmonious Fists)when t=
he much more modern Japanese army invades. He fights against these invaders=
, specifically one particular Colonel whose horse he steals. Sun rides into=
 the country to a village where the Feast of the Dragon is about to be cele=
brated with a parade. Sun has word of the parade leaked to the approaching =
Japanese army knowing they will choose that time to attack. They do, and th=
e villagers are prepared. The Japanese counter with a gunboat coming up the=
 river and Sun Yang commandeers a sampan loaded with gunpowder to blow up t=
he threatening craft. But he is taken prisoner and presented to the very co=
lonel whose horse he had stolen earlier. The Colonel has his Sumo wrestler =
Kajo throw Sun into a cell next to a girl named Yaku and her father.

Part Two "To Die with Dignity..." begins with Sun Yang being pitted against=
 the giant Sumo Kajo. The two wrestle until the Colonel gives Kajo a sword =
but honor demands that Sun Yang receive one too. The two opponents battle f=
uriously until Sun is able to defeat Kajo with a kick and a savage punch to=
 the face. The Colonel then threatens them all with a pistol but Yaku blind=
s him and Sun knocks it out of his hand, throwing the Colonel into Kajo. Ta=
king the sword Sun Yang, Yaku and her father escape the compound, but not b=
efore taking advantage of some conveniently placed gunpowder to blow up a s=
ignificant portion of the facility. Yaku expresses love for Sun Yang, but h=
e leaves with her father remarking that he belongs to all of China.=20

"House of Yang" offers up two letters on the debut issue, both complimentar=
y and both surprised at the fresh setting of China as opposed to the Americ=
an West. Both express interest in Eva Ku, and anticipate seeing her again d=
espite her apparent demise in the debut. The editors suggest her survival m=
ight well be in the cards.=20

This issue was reprinted in 1978 under the Modern Comics logo and in 1976 b=
y Australian publisher Gredown.=20

This issue features one of my favorite Charlton covers. Sanho Kim's portrai=
t of Sun Yang with the threatening Japanese soldiers behind him is striking=
, and the restrained color palette reinforces the subtle impact.=20

This is a solid issue with great action, all wonderfully choreographed by S=
anho Kim. The plot moves briskly and the action is all out. The characteriz=
ation is subtle and in service to the plot at all times. If any criticism c=
an lodged at this outstanding comic, it's that Yaku might need another scen=
e to develop her personality. There is a hint that she might return in the =
letters pages, but none in the story itself.

We return to the adventures of Yang himself next time. More to come.=20

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Thanks. I know about the website, that's where I ordered the volume from. I=
 noticed though that the price had changed on their website, and that's wha=
t prompted me to check it out right now.=20

Thanks again.

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> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
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> > Anyone have news about the current status of the First Comics revival? =
I'm eager to get hold of the E-Man trade, and I've long ago sent payment to=
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it was supposed to have dropped.
> >=20
> > Any news would be greatly appreciated.
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >
>=20
>=20
> They now have a website, a little basic but you can order the initial rel=
eases - http//www.firstcomicsinc.com
>=20
> They also made an appearance at the last New York Comic Con.
>=20
> TC
>



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Yang Volume 3, Number 10 is dated November, 1975 and was published by Charl=
ton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The colorful nigh-expre=
ssionistic cover is painted by Warren Sattler, and Sattler also did the art=
work on the inside of the comic. Joe Gill wrote the script.=20

After a brief summary of the life of Chung Hui, who we know better as Yang,=
 Part One "Partners in Evil" begins with our hero trying to return to San F=
rancisco to perhaps head back to China, where his thoughts have turned to h=
is cousin Sun Yang. He is attacked by Apache John and his partner who wears=
 a badge. He fends off these attacks and escapes on horseback while the man=
 behind the attacks reveals himself as Yang's old enemy Captain Keegan. His=
 plan is to let Yang find Yin Li and let one of them eliminate the other. Y=
ang does find Yin Li, the daughter of the man who killed Yang's father, but=
 not before discovering Keegan's opium shipments. He kills one of Keegan's =
men and then boards the Shanghai junk which holds Yin Li. They exchange wor=
ds, and Yin Li threatens Yang with a gun. Meanwhile Captain Keegan and his =
crew board the junk, killing Yin Li's man. Their attack allows Yang to esca=
pe Yin Li's gun and he fights the new enemy.=20

Part Two "The Target" showcases this battle between Yang and Keegan as the =
corrupt Captain is kicked overboard. But Yin Li's man Han knocks Yang out a=
nd Yang is tied up and whipped by Han for Yin Li's pleasure. But in a momen=
t of doubt she releases prisoner and Yang jumps overboard. He encounters Ke=
egan's small boat and tips it making Keegan fall into the bay. But despite =
his desire to do so, he spares Keegan's life, but Yang himself is again kno=
cked out with a belay pin by Keegan's men. Keegan thinks Yin Li will try to=
 save Yang and hopes to kill them both when she does so. He hires a killer =
named Durango to do just that. Yin Li arrives to do just as Keegan predicts=
 and he adds her to his collection of prisoners. Durango moves to fulfill h=
is bargain, but Yang uses the unloaded gun he is provided to defeat his new=
 enemy by crashing it against his skull. A previously arranged explosion by=
 Yin Li's men gives the pair the chance to defeat their foe and after givin=
g Keegan a swift kick to the face, Yang then jumps out of the window as Yin=
 Li shoots after him. He looks back at the junk with regret as the story en=
ds.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" offers up three letters, one an erudite analysis of the Yin=
-Yang symbol and philosophy and the others more typical letters of general =
praise for the comic. One letter though does say that Yin Li is in too many=
 issues of the comic, and it's pointed out that George Wildman, the editor =
thought the same thing and had the comic change up the scenario some in rec=
ent issues.=20

This comic was reprinted in 1977 under the Modern Comics label.=20

This is another solid issue of Yang, and after a few issues where Yin Li ha=
s been largely absent, seeing her again was a real treat. The conflict betw=
een her and Yang seemed to have a bit more spark this time, as both have la=
rgely given in to the inevitable nature of their love-hate relationship. Ca=
ptain Keegan is a dandy villain, and good here.=20

The series really has found its balance now and is delivering solid enterta=
inment. There is a small mention of the companion comic House of Yang, but =
there must have been some slips in editiorial as the references point to an=
 upcoming series, not one already on the stands.=20

More to come.=20

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House of Yang Volume 1, Number 3 is dated December, 1975 and was published =
by Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The beautiful c=
over was painted by Sanho Kim who is also the artist on the interior pages =
as well. The script was supplied by Joe Gill.=20

"Hunters of the Sun" begins with the arrival of former Japanese military ma=
n Colonel Yagatsu and his two female "Ninzas" on the Nipponese freighter of=
 pirate queen Eva Ku. They plot together to kill Sun Yang, enemy of both. S=
un Yang meanwhile is training at the House of Yang, refining his martial ar=
ts skills. He learns of Yagatsu's return as a civilian spy and heads to see=
 him because of his cruel plan to corner the rice markets of China, bringin=
g out suffering and hunger. He infiltrates Eva Ku's compound and sneaks int=
o a meeting between her and Yagatsu by pretending to deliver rice and confr=
onts the pair. Yagatsu has his Ninzas attack Suy Yang and he fends them off=
, but his lack of desire to kill his enemy causes him to become their priso=
ner. As they try to kill Sun Yang, Eva Ku has a change of heart and turns o=
n her new allies, saving Sun.

"House of Yang" is a two-page letters page section with spot illustrations =
from previous issues. It offers up two letters of comment, both very compli=
mentary to the new comic and both offering high praise for Sanho Kim's dist=
inctive take on the setting and characters. His aborted project "Wrong Coun=
try" is mentioned by the editors.=20=20=20

"The Plunderer" begins as Sun Yang is being tortured by the two Ninzas with=
 braided, barbed whips, but Sun is able to twist and get free. His hand bou=
nd he battles against to the twin Ninzas and Colonel Yagatsu, knocking them=
 all out. He then yells to the many desperate men in the sampans around the=
 freighter that the rice there and in the warehouses is free to any who got=
 to get it. This causes a sufficient distraction that Sun is able to escape=
 the freighter and seek help. Meanwhile Eva Ku is finding herself under att=
ack from her Japanese allies, but she is saved when Sun Yang returns and se=
nds both Ninzas and Yagatsu unceremoniously into the bay. Eva Ku turns on S=
un Yang though and he flips her into the bay too. She vows revenge, but he =
seems unconcerned for the moment. Later at the House of Yang he indicates h=
e can deal with Eva Ku in the future.=20=20

This is a solid issue, as the premise which works so effectively in the Yan=
g comic finds expression here. Eva Ku reappears inexplicably healthy with d=
ark hair this time, and her feud with Sun Yang is lively and on display. Th=
e reappearance of Colonel Yagatsu was a surprise, especially in his civilia=
n dress. The "Ninzas" as they are called are beautiful additions to the lor=
e and offer up some really great baddies for Sun to battle. He's been takin=
g on over-sized macho warriors to this point, and this pair of deadly lovel=
ies is a nice change of pace.=20

This issue was reprinted in Gredown's House of Yang #1 in 1976.=20

Another top-notch outing for all concerned beneath one of Charlton's most e=
legant and beautiful comic book covers. Outstanding!=20

More to come.=20

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Yang Volume 4, Number 11 is dated January, 1976 and was published by Charlt=
on Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The action-filled cover =
is painted by Warren Sattler, and Sattler also did the artwork on the insid=
e of the comic. Joe Gill wrote the script.

"The Killer King" begins in San Francisco where Yang the Avenger is being p=
ursued by many killers. He slips into the bay and is rescued by a cabin boy=
 aboard a ship which turns out to be headed to Alaska. Yang is kidnapped an=
d dumped into the hold along with a crowd of men eager to get to Alaska and=
 find their fortunes. Captain Mehn, the skipper of the ship puts Yang to wo=
rk, but plans to kill him when Yang overhears the Captain's plans to shake =
down his passengers. Yang is tied and thrown overboard into the cold Bering=
 Sea around the Aleutian Islands. Yang gets free and swims to a volcanic is=
land filled with seals. He realize he must be in the Pribilof Islands when =
a boat appears with Russians who have come to club the seals to death for t=
heir fur. They are led by a Cossack named Colonel Igor Yugarov who wants ki=
ll Yang but Yang is knocked out instead by a Mongol named Woni. Yang is the=
n taken to the leader named Prince Nimoff, and Nimoff's daugher Princess Ka=
ren pleads for Yang's life. Yang is put behind bars where he informs Karen =
of Yugarov's seal hunting.=20

"One Last Victim" begins as Yuarov overhears Yang tell Princess Karen of hi=
s activities and he plans to release Yang and kill Karen and tell Nimoff th=
at Yang killed her. But Yang attacks Yugarov and the pair get to Nimoff fir=
st informing him of Yugarov's treachery. Nimoff, Karen and Yang escape and =
contact Woni before Yugarov can implement his plan to blow up Nimoff and hi=
s daughter. They escape to the sea in a boat and are pursued by Yugarov and=
 his men. Yang slips into the cold sea and tips over the pursuing boat, the=
n he attacks Yugarov and throws him into the sea where he is attacked and k=
illed by a ferocious Leopard Seal. As the story ends, Yang plans to find hi=
s way to Nome, Alaska.=20

"Yin-Yang Mail" offers up two letters. One is from an academic who adds mor=
e detail to the Yin-Yang myth which informs the series and the other is fro=
m a fan who suggests a super-foe for Yang simply named "Yin". The editors t=
ell the latter that Yin Li already fills that role.=20

This issue was reprinted in 1977 under the Modern Comics label.=20

Yet another solid issue, filled with action and a very wide-ranging setting=
 this time. In the space of a single issue we travel from the bays of San F=
rancisco to the the wilds of the Aleutians. Yang's personality seems fully =
developed at this point and Gill and Sattler seem completely comfortable wi=
th the characters and the setting. The stories are vivid, and they offer up=
 a broad spectrum of characters.=20

The world of Yang (called "the Avenger" over and over again in this issue) =
is one filled with random and often cruel violence. It makes Yang's own cha=
racter very important. While it's a bit thin to imagine the slaughter of se=
als having much impact in the rugged world of the 19th Century, it does con=
trast neatly with the more placid aspects of Yang's outlook on life.=20

There is more to come.=20

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House of Yang Volume 2, Number 4 is dated February, 1976 and was published =
by Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The dynamic cov=
er was painted by Sanho Kim who is also the artist on the interior pages as=
 well for this one final time. The script was supplied by the always reliab=
le Joe Gill.=20

"Killers from the North" begins with Sun Yang leaving the House of Yang to =
head North to face the Golden Horde of the Mogul Shah Tabar. Shah Tabar is =
a ferocious enemy as is his daughter Yiza who rides with his soldiers into =
battle. Sun Yang finds villagers afraid of the invaders and agrees to stay =
and help them. He organizes the women and begins to train them as the Mongo=
ls continue to head South terrorizing and pillaging as they come. Yiza in p=
articular seems eager to pierce the very heart of China. Time passes and Su=
n Yang continues to train the villagers. He learns of an attack nearby and =
when he investigates he is attacked by Yiza who finds her match in Sun Yang=
. He is struck down by her soldiers and taken to the court of Shah Tabar.=20

"The Last Great Mogul" opens with Sun Yang battling Shah Tabar's top warrio=
r who he defeats. Shah Tabar then gives him the bargain of taking Yiza's ha=
nd in marriage or seeing the village destroyed. Sun agrees to marry Yiza. T=
he villagers hear of Sun Yang's capture and plot to free him. The women wil=
l enter the camp and provide a distraction while the rest then attack and r=
escue Sun Yang. The Mongols are surpised by the skills of the village women=
 and the attack is successful. Sun Yang blocks up a cannon which is being d=
eployed and its explosion rocks through the camp fatally injuring Yiza. The=
 Mongols retreat and Sun Yang holds Yiza in his arms as she dies. He turns =
and heads back South to the House of Yang.=20

"Yin Vs. Yang" is a text piece which tells the untold story of Sun Yang jus=
t after he first left the House of Yang and confronted the warlord Chan Tai=
 and his Samurai bodyguard Hioto. Hioto is quite skilled but Sun Yang is ev=
en more so and during their lethal struggle, an errant knife thrown by Hiot=
o strikes and kills Chan Tai.

This issue was reprinted in 1976 by Australian publisher Gredown in House o=
f Yang #1.=20

This sadly is the final issue of House of Yang produced by Sanho Kim. It's =
another gorgeous effort, rich with authenticity and excitement. Getting Sun=
 Yang mixed up with Mongols is a nice trick, offering up a savage contrast =
to his more pacific philosophy. Despite my initial doubts, Yiza turns out t=
o be a compelling character and I was a bit sad she was killed off at the e=
nd. Her ferocious nature would've made her a nice ongoing counterpoint to S=
un, not unlike Eva Ku.=20

House of Yang for four brief issues offered up some simply outstanding mart=
ial arts action. The run is not over by any means, but the loss of Sanho Ki=
m on upcoming issues does hurt the overall tone of the series. It's a sad f=
irst sign of the beginning of the end of the Yang saga.=20

More to come later.

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Yang Volume 4, Number 12 is dated March, 1976 and was published by Charlton=
 Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The dynamic cover is paint=
ed by Warren Sattler, and Sattler also did the artwork on the inside of the=
 comic. Joe Gill wrote the story.=20

"1000 Ways to Die!" begins with Yang in the rough and tumble Alaskan town o=
f Skagway during the height of the 1890's gold rush. He sees an old miner n=
amed Lucky Jim Brady struck down from behind by a club on orders from Simon=
 Wicks, and moves to intercede, and is told by a lovely young woman named A=
nne Reese to take the injured miner to her father, Dr.Amos Reese will help =
him. Another man called Race Cochran offers to take Brady can be taken to t=
he local hotel and gambling hall called the "Heavenly Rest" run by a woman =
named Briscoe. Later when Dr.Reese arrives the pair claim that Brady was ne=
ver there and when Yang objects a fight breaks out. Yang and the Reeses esc=
ape, but they need money so Yang returns to the Heavenly Rest and gambles, =
but uses his substantial skills to overcome the cheating used to fleece the=
 local miners. After winning substantial sums Yang takes a horse and leaves=
 after setting the Heavenly Rest on fire. He and the Reeses then head north=
 to Dawson, Alaska as Dr.Reese helps the Tlingit Indians and looks for his =
brother, a missionary who was lost also helping the Tlingit.=20

"Klondike Fever" begins in Dawson as Yang and Anne Reese getting supplies a=
re confronted by thieves and Yang is forced to shoot the pair with a gun he=
 found during the fight. After getting what they need in town the trio lear=
n of an injured man in the Tlingit camp. They discover it is Reese's brothe=
r and some quick surgery allows the removal of a bullet which was keeping t=
he poor man paralyzed. As he recovers, Yang organizes nightly gold hunting =
operations disguised as fishing to fool the locals and after sufficient gol=
d is found he heads to Dawson to the one honest banker to deposit it on beh=
alf of the Reeses and the Tlingit. Killers hired by Cochran though intercep=
t and after a ferocious battle Yang is finally able to accomplish his task =
and safely deposit the gold. The story ends as Yang runs across the unscrup=
ulous Simon Wicks who struck the miner starting the story and dispatches hi=
s gunman and punches the evil man. Yang leaves Dawson with thoughts of his =
homeland and the House of Yang on his mind.=20

"Apache Justice", a two-page text tale, reveals how Yang while traveling a =
barren desert survives and is found by Apaches and put him through a Gauntl=
et to prove his mettle. He of course survives and wins their respect.=20

This comic was reprinted by the Australian publisher K.G.Murray under the t=
itle of "Martial Arts" along with other non-Charlton material.=20

This is another completely solid issue with complex characters and a plot w=
hich twists and turns very neatly in its short space. The greed of the Alas=
kan rush is on terrible display and the men and women involved must face th=
at with different degrees of discipline and dignity. Yang never loses his, =
though he does resort to using a weapon several times in this story. He's u=
sed them before, but he seems all too ready to do so here. Gill might be su=
ggesting something about how Yang is changing in the world he finds himself=
 in, but I doubt it.=20

More to come as we arrive at the final issue of Yang.

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House of Yang Volume 2, Number 5 is dated April, 1976 and was published by =
Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The dynamic cover =
was painted by Warren Sattler, who is the regular artist on the companion c=
omic Yang. The interior artwork is by Demetrio Gomez Sanchez with the final=
 two pages produced by Franc Fuentes Man. The script was supplied by the al=
ways reliable Joe Gill.=20

"A Poisoned Pearl" begins in the South China sea where Eva Ku learns of fab=
ulous pearls. She plots with her henchman Ni-Shan to take the native divers=
 into slavery and force them to get more pearls for her. Ni-Shan and his pi=
rates do just that but encounter Sun Yang who battles them fiercely before =
being struck down from behind. He is tied up to a mast and presented to Eva=
 Ku who immediately demonstrates her dual nature by demanding he be taken d=
own and she herself cares for her enemy. But after a firm but eventful kiss=
 between the two she again changes, but Sun Yang plans to leave but he is s=
topped by the wily Ni-Shan who is waiting for him. Again Sun Yang is tied t=
o the mast and tormented, yet again Eva Ku sends out mixed messages when sh=
e punished Ni-Shan for abusing Sun Yang.=20

"Death Lies Deep" begins as Sun Yang and Eva Ku dive together into the shar=
k infested waters to get the pearls themselves. Sun Yang battles a giant sh=
ark to save Eva Ku, and the pair make another dive, both protecting the oth=
er divers and making sure the pearls are delivered. A fracture develops bet=
ween Eva Ku and Ni-Shan though over the division of the pearls. Sun Yang is=
 still fending off sharks to protect the native divers and returns in time =
to see Ni-Shan turn on his pirate queen taking both her and Sun Yang prison=
er in a giant net. As the pair are to be tossed to the sharks, all of which=
 have been brought to a frenzy with chopped up fish, Sun Yang tackles Ni-Sh=
an and the duo fall into the sea. Sun Yang is able to battle his toothy att=
ackers but Ni-Shan is not so lucky. Returning to the junk, Eva Ku and Sun Y=
ang discuss the split on the pearls and Sun Yang demands his part be given =
to the native divers.=20

"The Victims" is a two-page text piece which discusses the history of seal =
fishing in Alaska and how it has become a managed industry in more recent y=
ears after a free-for-all in the early days.=20

This issue was reprinted in 1976 by Gredown, an Australian publisher, which=
 offers up a very dynamic variation on the original Sattler watercolor cove=
r art.=20

The change in art styles in this issue is abrupt. Demetrio is a fine artist=
, and the storytelling in this one only breaks down in a few spots. The fin=
al pages by Fuentes Man fit right in and if he hadn't signed them, I doubt =
most folks would notice the change. These two Spanish artists are solid tal=
ents and worthy replacements for a man like Sanho Kim, but clearly some of =
the special magic which made House of Yang so different is missing.=20

Ni-Shan is a very nasty villain and frankly I wasn't a bit surprised he tur=
ned on Eva Ku. She doesn't deserve loyalty, the way she changes her mercuri=
al mind about Sun Yang. If I worked for her, it would drive me crazy. The Y=
in-Yang dynamic is firmly established here, as clearly as in any previous i=
ssue.=20

There is one more issue of this run to come. Stay tuned.=20

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Yang Volume 4, Number 13 is dated May, 1976 and was published by Charlton P=
ublications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The action-filled cover is p=
ainted by Warren Sattler, and Sattler also did the artwork on the inside of=
 the comic. Joe Gill wrote the story. Note that price jumped to thirty cent=
s this issue.=20

"Death Wears White" picks up the story of Yang almost immediately after the=
 events of the previous issue, and Yang is in the town of Dawson, Alaska an=
d still facing off against the corrupt financier Simon Wicks who is offerin=
g a bounty on Yang's head. Yang has successfully protected the Tlingit gold=
 mine by putting the title to the mine in the name of the chief Ahak. But W=
icks plots against Ahak and lures him into a saloon. Yang hears yelling and=
 comes to the saloon to find a man named Smitty dead on the floor with Ahak=
's knife in his body and Wicks and his men declaring that Ahak is the murde=
rer. Chief Ahak denies the charge and Yang battles the thugs and he and Aha=
k escape into the cold snowy night. The two men get supplies at the Tlingit=
 village and head off into the wilderness to elude capture. Wicks does send=
 men to find them, but Yang is able to fend them off and sends them back mi=
nus resources. Wicks then contacts the local Royal Canadian Mounted Policem=
an named Corporal Pierre Duvall. Doing his duty, he strikes off to find the=
 two fugitives.=20

"Die in Dawson" begins when Duvall finds Yang, and he raises his rifle to f=
ire but is only doing so to protect Yang from an attacking wolf.  The fair-=
minded Mounties hears the story of Yang and Ahak and agrees to a bit of tri=
ckery to find out the truth. He cuffs the two men, but does not lock their =
cuffs and takes them back to Dawson. The two prisoners are put into the sto=
rerooms owned by Wicks and then Ahak pretends to suggest to Yang that he mi=
ght buy his freedom if he signed over the mine to Wicks. Wicks overhears an=
d attempts to make the trade, but is overheard by Duvall who attempts to ar=
rest the corrupt businessman. A fight breaks out and Yang battles Wicks and=
 his men ultimately setting fire to the building. With Duvall and Ahak he d=
efeats the criminals and get their unconscious bodies out of the fire. Duva=
ll plans to take the men in for trial as Yang announces his heart yearns to=
 return to Shanghai. As he turns to head home, his thoughts turn to the bea=
utiful but deadly Yin Li and he muses why there must be evil at all in the =
world.=20

"The Drinking Partner" is a one-page text tale of Yang as he made his way i=
nto a small Western town seeking a drink of water. He goes into the local s=
aloon to get a drink but faces a threat almost instantly. He fights off the=
 angry cowboy and his fighting skill impresses the cowboys who offer him a =
drink. He takes his empty glass and heads to the horse trough, preferring t=
hat company.=20

And that wraps up the Yang story as we know it. This final issue by Gill an=
d Sattler shows off the remarkable consistency in the series. These two rel=
iable talents have been on hand for each and every issue, and offered up a =
solid entertainment month in and month out. Yang clearly found an audience,=
 though not a sufficient one to last indefinitely. The first issue cost twe=
nty cents and this final one cost thirty cents, that alone points to the re=
lative longevity of the series and the fluxuating nature of the market. The=
 series would be revived in 1986 during Charlton's final throes, but those =
issues (already showcased in these reports) would only offer up reprints of=
 the series.=20

It's unfortunate that we never got to see Yang get to Shanghai for his reun=
ion with with his cousin Sun Yang, but it would make a great sequel some da=
y. As for Sun Yang, his final adventure comes up the following month, and i=
s the subject of the final Yang Report, and as it turns out both Gill and S=
attler are on hand for the occasion.=20=20

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House of Yang Volume 2, Number 6 is dated June, 1976 and was published by C=
harlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The action-filled c=
over is painted by Warren Sattler, and Warren Sattler also stepped up and d=
id the artwork on the inside of this comic. Joe Gill wrote the story as alw=
ays. Note that the price jumped to thirty cents this month.=20

"The Shogun of Karu Island" begins when Sun Yang's ship is battling a typho=
on and wrecks on the breakers of Karu Island. The survivors get ashore and =
are immediately taken prisoner by the Japanese warriors in service to the S=
amurai lord Jimurai. The Samurai warrior Yatsu is in charge of the prisoner=
s. Sun Yang joins the many other slaves who have been captured over the yea=
rs and they are made to work for their Japanese masters. Prince Yoku of the=
 Japanese royal house is due to arrive anytime and Jimurai wishes to prepar=
e, so he and his daughter do just that. When the Prince does arrive in a gr=
eat ship, an entertainment is planned with Sun Yang battling Yatsu as the m=
ain event. Jimuarai's daughter goes to see Sun Yang and expresses her regre=
t, but Sun Yang says for her to not shed tears for him. The battle begins a=
nd Sun Yang at first plays possum, but then reveals his considerable skill =
and goes toe to toe with the Samurai ultimately defeating him and using the=
 fire from a broken lantern to distract for his escape. He heads to the sla=
ve houses and frees his fellow prisoners. They sneak to the Prince's ship a=
nd swiftly take the unsuspecting guards down and take control of the ship. =
As they move out into the open sea, free men at last, the two Samurai, Yats=
u and Jimurai take dramatic steps to regain their lost honor and the two me=
n commit ritual suicide next to one another. The final panel shows the ship=
 heading into the rising sun and announces that this is "The End!"

"House of Yang" offers up two letters from a couple of fans remarking on th=
e second issue of the comic. One letter is extremely nitpicky about perceiv=
ed errors in the artwork and the other is quite pleased with it. The editor=
s defend Sanho Kim's work as stylistic and praise him robustly as uniquely =
qualified to undertake the artwork on such a project.=20

This story was reprinted by Australian publisher Gredown in 1976.=20

This is the last story of the Yang universe that has ever been published. T=
here was some hint in the regular Yang series that Yang himself was headed =
back to Shanghai for a reunion with his cousin Sun Yang, but alas it will n=
ever be. Sun Yang heads home at the end of this story but as far as we know=
, Yang is not there to greet him.=20

It's interesting that Joe Gill, the writer for all the Yang stories is join=
ed by Warren Sattler, the artist on the main Yang comic for this final stor=
y of the House of Yang. Sattler's style is appealing and warm, and while no=
t much like Sanho Kim's, still tells a period story quite successfully. The=
re are signs in this one thought that it was produced somewhat swiftly, so =
Sattler is to be given some slack for that.=20

The end of the runs of both Yang and House of Yang really finishes a period=
 of creativity at Charlton under George Wildman's tenure. The following mon=
th will see, apart from the ghost books and the other genre titles, only li=
censed material from Charlton. The "superhero" movement which sparked both =
Yang and E-Man has run its course. The talent at Charlton will focus their =
efforts on licenses for Six-Million Dollar Man, Space:1999, Bionic Woman, E=
mergency, and such for the next year or so.=20

Sadly, the final days of Charlton were on the way. Though the company would=
 linger for another decade, it can be argued that the saga of the House of =
Yang (as related in both Yang and House of Yang) was a worthy addition to C=
harlton's long martial arts heritage and the last great original story in t=
he Charlton universe.=20

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The one man most closely associated with all the Yang stories is writer Joe=
 Gill, and despite this, he is often overlooked as the focus in comics ofte=
n shifts to the artwork. I'm guilty of that in these reports as well.=20

Joe Gill's name was so ubiquitous at Charlton that I assumed it was a house=
 name and that one man could not possibly be responsible for all the script=
s attributed to him. But I was very wrong, and Joe Gill is one of those wor=
khorse talents who I most admire these days, a guy who shows up and gets th=
e job done regardless of the circumstances. He was a far from a prima donna=
 as it's possible to be.=20

Gill worked steadily at Charlton after the Yang books folded, ending his ca=
reer with the Derby publisher and going into semi-retirement after the comp=
any finally folded for good in 1986. He worked on a few things here and the=
re over the years for ACE Comics and DC Comics, but oddly his final credit =
is as a colorist for an independent comic title "Ebony Warrior".=20

Joe Gill passed away in 2006.=20

Warren Sattler is the guy who drew more Yang stories (both in Yang and Hous=
e of Yang) than any other artist. He is also one of those talents who Charl=
ton seemed to attract, a distinctive stylist who likely did not possess the=
 style then common in most comics produced by Marvel and DC. He continued t=
o work for Charlton after the Yang books ended, drawing some more Billy the=
 Kid stories, but then he seemed to leave the company at about the same tim=
e as they stopped producing artwork in house so much and began to rely on o=
utside groups like those run by Gray Morrow and Pat Boyette.=20

All the time he worked for Charlton, Sattler was working for National Lampo=
on on various projects in their magazine. He even produced a few covers for=
 them.=20

But his real career after Yang was as a ghost comic strip artist, working o=
n Gil Thorp, Slylock Fox,and Bringing Up Father and other comic strips for =
years after. You don't get the recognition and awards for doing that kind o=
f work, but you get the respect of fans who know what it takes to produce s=
uch high quality work for so many years.=20

Sattler also at some point produced a musical album.=20

Sanho Kim only drew four issues of House of Yang, but his name is forever a=
ssociated with the project as his Wrong Country was the original lost proje=
ct intended to be Yang.=20

Kim left Charlton after his fourth House of Yang story and headed to Marvel=
 Comics where he produced a few stories, most notably the first chapter of =
"Swordquest" in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. But Tony DeZuniga took over that s=
eries after Sanho's departure, for whatever reason.=20

While his name was lost to comics fans for many years, he continued to work=
.=20

Sanho Kim finds his greatest success by digging back into his Korean roots =
and has been recognized as a major figure in Korean cultural research for h=
is trilogy The History of the Korean Empire.=20

All three of these talents had and have remarkable careers, and such an ass=
embly of talent suggests why the Yang books, as derivative as they might've=
 been, resonate so strongly with fans so many years later.=20

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 I agree, I wasn't exactly sure when this series ended but now I know.
 There could have been some great crossover stories with Eva-Ku back.All in=
 all it was good storytelling and wonderful art.=20=20=20

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:
>
> House of Yang Volume 2, Number 4 is dated February, 1976 and was publishe=
d by Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The dynamic c=
over was painted by Sanho Kim who is also the artist on the interior pages =
as well for this one final time. The script was supplied by the always reli=
able Joe Gill.=20
>=20
> "Killers from the North" begins with Sun Yang leaving the House of Yang t=
o head North to face the Golden Horde of the Mogul Shah Tabar. Shah Tabar i=
s a ferocious enemy as is his daughter Yiza who rides with his soldiers int=
o battle. Sun Yang finds villagers afraid of the invaders and agrees to sta=
y and help them. He organizes the women and begins to train them as the Mon=
gols continue to head South terrorizing and pillaging as they come. Yiza in=
 particular seems eager to pierce the very heart of China. Time passes and =
Sun Yang continues to train the villagers. He learns of an attack nearby an=
d when he investigates he is attacked by Yiza who finds her match in Sun Ya=
ng. He is struck down by her soldiers and taken to the court of Shah Tabar.=
=20
>=20
> "The Last Great Mogul" opens with Sun Yang battling Shah Tabar's top warr=
ior who he defeats. Shah Tabar then gives him the bargain of taking Yiza's =
hand in marriage or seeing the village destroyed. Sun agrees to marry Yiza.=
 The villagers hear of Sun Yang's capture and plot to free him. The women w=
ill enter the camp and provide a distraction while the rest then attack and=
 rescue Sun Yang. The Mongols are surpised by the skills of the village wom=
en and the attack is successful. Sun Yang blocks up a cannon which is being=
 deployed and its explosion rocks through the camp fatally injuring Yiza. T=
he Mongols retreat and Sun Yang holds Yiza in his arms as she dies. He turn=
s and heads back South to the House of Yang.=20
>=20
> "Yin Vs. Yang" is a text piece which tells the untold story of Sun Yang j=
ust after he first left the House of Yang and confronted the warlord Chan T=
ai and his Samurai bodyguard Hioto. Hioto is quite skilled but Sun Yang is =
even more so and during their lethal struggle, an errant knife thrown by Hi=
oto strikes and kills Chan Tai.
>=20
> This issue was reprinted in 1976 by Australian publisher Gredown in House=
 of Yang #1.=20
>=20
> This sadly is the final issue of House of Yang produced by Sanho Kim. It'=
s another gorgeous effort, rich with authenticity and excitement. Getting S=
un Yang mixed up with Mongols is a nice trick, offering up a savage contras=
t to his more pacific philosophy. Despite my initial doubts, Yiza turns out=
 to be a compelling character and I was a bit sad she was killed off at the=
 end. Her ferocious nature would've made her a nice ongoing counterpoint to=
 Sun, not unlike Eva Ku.=20
>=20
> House of Yang for four brief issues offered up some simply outstanding ma=
rtial arts action. The run is not over by any means, but the loss of Sanho =
Kim on upcoming issues does hurt the overall tone of the series. It's a sad=
 first sign of the beginning of the end of the Yang saga.=20
>=20
> More to come later.
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 I agree again thanks for the great synopsis of this Yang and House of Yang=
 series it was fun reading them again. I hope someday someone will revive t=
his series. thanks.

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:
>
> The one man most closely associated with all the Yang stories is writer J=
oe Gill, and despite this, he is often overlooked as the focus in comics of=
ten shifts to the artwork. I'm guilty of that in these reports as well.=20
>=20
> Joe Gill's name was so ubiquitous at Charlton that I assumed it was a hou=
se name and that one man could not possibly be responsible for all the scri=
pts attributed to him. But I was very wrong, and Joe Gill is one of those w=
orkhorse talents who I most admire these days, a guy who shows up and gets =
the job done regardless of the circumstances. He was a far from a prima don=
na as it's possible to be.=20
>=20
> Gill worked steadily at Charlton after the Yang books folded, ending his =
career with the Derby publisher and going into semi-retirement after the co=
mpany finally folded for good in 1986. He worked on a few things here and t=
here over the years for ACE Comics and DC Comics, but oddly his final credi=
t is as a colorist for an independent comic title "Ebony Warrior".=20
>=20
> Joe Gill passed away in 2006.=20
>=20
> Warren Sattler is the guy who drew more Yang stories (both in Yang and Ho=
use of Yang) than any other artist. He is also one of those talents who Cha=
rlton seemed to attract, a distinctive stylist who likely did not possess t=
he style then common in most comics produced by Marvel and DC. He continued=
 to work for Charlton after the Yang books ended, drawing some more Billy t=
he Kid stories, but then he seemed to leave the company at about the same t=
ime as they stopped producing artwork in house so much and began to rely on=
 outside groups like those run by Gray Morrow and Pat Boyette.=20
>=20
> All the time he worked for Charlton, Sattler was working for National Lam=
poon on various projects in their magazine. He even produced a few covers f=
or them.=20
>=20
> But his real career after Yang was as a ghost comic strip artist, working=
 on Gil Thorp, Slylock Fox,and Bringing Up Father and other comic strips fo=
r years after. You don't get the recognition and awards for doing that kind=
 of work, but you get the respect of fans who know what it takes to produce=
 such high quality work for so many years.=20
>=20
> Sattler also at some point produced a musical album.=20
>=20
> Sanho Kim only drew four issues of House of Yang, but his name is forever=
 associated with the project as his Wrong Country was the original lost pro=
ject intended to be Yang.=20
>=20
> Kim left Charlton after his fourth House of Yang story and headed to Marv=
el Comics where he produced a few stories, most notably the first chapter o=
f "Swordquest" in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. But Tony DeZuniga took over that=
 series after Sanho's departure, for whatever reason.=20
>=20
> While his name was lost to comics fans for many years, he continued to wo=
rk.=20
>=20
> Sanho Kim finds his greatest success by digging back into his Korean root=
s and has been recognized as a major figure in Korean cultural research for=
 his trilogy The History of the Korean Empire.=20
>=20
> All three of these talents had and have remarkable careers, and such an a=
ssembly of talent suggests why the Yang books, as derivative as they might'=
ve been, resonate so strongly with fans so many years later.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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 Bravo- That time period in China and America was an exciting and dangerous=
 time.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> House of Yang Volume 2, Number 6 is dated June, 1976 and was published by=
 Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The action-filled=
 cover is painted by Warren Sattler, and Warren Sattler also stepped up and=
 did the artwork on the inside of this comic. Joe Gill wrote the story as a=
lways. Note that the price jumped to thirty cents this month.=20
>=20
> "The Shogun of Karu Island" begins when Sun Yang's ship is battling a typ=
hoon and wrecks on the breakers of Karu Island. The survivors get ashore an=
d are immediately taken prisoner by the Japanese warriors in service to the=
 Samurai lord Jimurai. The Samurai warrior Yatsu is in charge of the prison=
ers. Sun Yang joins the many other slaves who have been captured over the y=
ears and they are made to work for their Japanese masters. Prince Yoku of t=
he Japanese royal house is due to arrive anytime and Jimurai wishes to prep=
are, so he and his daughter do just that. When the Prince does arrive in a =
great ship, an entertainment is planned with Sun Yang battling Yatsu as the=
 main event. Jimuarai's daughter goes to see Sun Yang and expresses her reg=
ret, but Sun Yang says for her to not shed tears for him. The battle begins=
 and Sun Yang at first plays possum, but then reveals his considerable skil=
l and goes toe to toe with the Samurai ultimately defeating him and using t=
he fire from a broken lantern to distract for his escape. He heads to the s=
lave houses and frees his fellow prisoners. They sneak to the Prince's ship=
 and swiftly take the unsuspecting guards down and take control of the ship=
. As they move out into the open sea, free men at last, the two Samurai, Ya=
tsu and Jimurai take dramatic steps to regain their lost honor and the two =
men commit ritual suicide next to one another. The final panel shows the sh=
ip heading into the rising sun and announces that this is "The End!"
>=20
> "House of Yang" offers up two letters from a couple of fans remarking on =
the second issue of the comic. One letter is extremely nitpicky about perce=
ived errors in the artwork and the other is quite pleased with it. The edit=
ors defend Sanho Kim's work as stylistic and praise him robustly as uniquel=
y qualified to undertake the artwork on such a project.=20
>=20
> This story was reprinted by Australian publisher Gredown in 1976.=20
>=20
> This is the last story of the Yang universe that has ever been published.=
 There was some hint in the regular Yang series that Yang himself was heade=
d back to Shanghai for a reunion with his cousin Sun Yang, but alas it will=
 never be. Sun Yang heads home at the end of this story but as far as we kn=
ow, Yang is not there to greet him.=20
>=20
> It's interesting that Joe Gill, the writer for all the Yang stories is jo=
ined by Warren Sattler, the artist on the main Yang comic for this final st=
ory of the House of Yang. Sattler's style is appealing and warm, and while =
not much like Sanho Kim's, still tells a period story quite successfully. T=
here are signs in this one thought that it was produced somewhat swiftly, s=
o Sattler is to be given some slack for that.=20
>=20
> The end of the runs of both Yang and House of Yang really finishes a peri=
od of creativity at Charlton under George Wildman's tenure. The following m=
onth will see, apart from the ghost books and the other genre titles, only =
licensed material from Charlton. The "superhero" movement which sparked bot=
h Yang and E-Man has run its course. The talent at Charlton will focus thei=
r efforts on licenses for Six-Million Dollar Man, Space:1999, Bionic Woman,=
 Emergency, and such for the next year or so.=20
>=20
> Sadly, the final days of Charlton were on the way. Though the company wou=
ld linger for another decade, it can be argued that the saga of the House o=
f Yang (as related in both Yang and House of Yang) was a worthy addition to=
 Charlton's long martial arts heritage and the last great original story in=
 the Charlton universe.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the agenda?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM



=C2=A0=20



Bravo- That time period in China and America was an exciting and dangerous =
time.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> House of Yang Volume 2, Number 6 is dated June, 1976 and was published by=
 Charlton Publications Inc. The editor is George Wildman. The action-filled=
 cover is painted by Warren Sattler, and Warren Sattler also stepped up and=
 did the artwork on the inside of this comic. Joe Gill wrote the story as a=
lways. Note that the price jumped to thirty cents this month.=20
>=20
> "The Shogun of Karu Island" begins when Sun Yang's ship is battling a typ=
hoon and wrecks on the breakers of Karu Island. The survivors get ashore an=
d are immediately taken prisoner by the Japanese warriors in service to the=
 Samurai lord Jimurai. The Samurai warrior Yatsu is in charge of the prison=
ers. Sun Yang joins the many other slaves who have been captured over the y=
ears and they are made to work for their Japanese masters. Prince Yoku of t=
he Japanese royal house is due to arrive anytime and Jimurai wishes to prep=
are, so he and his daughter do just that. When the Prince does arrive in a =
great ship, an entertainment is planned with Sun Yang battling Yatsu as the=
 main event. Jimuarai's daughter goes to see Sun Yang and expresses her reg=
ret, but Sun Yang says for her to not shed tears for him. The battle begins=
 and Sun Yang at first plays possum, but then reveals his considerable skil=
l and goes toe to toe with the Samurai ultimately defeating him and
 using the fire from a broken lantern to distract for his escape. He heads =
to the slave houses and frees his fellow prisoners. They sneak to the Princ=
e's ship and swiftly take the unsuspecting guards down and take control of =
the ship. As they move out into the open sea, free men at last, the two Sam=
urai, Yatsu and Jimurai take dramatic steps to regain their lost honor and =
the two men commit ritual suicide next to one another. The final panel show=
s the ship heading into the rising sun and announces that this is "The End!=
"
>=20
> "House of Yang" offers up two letters from a couple of fans remarking on =
the second issue of the comic. One letter is extremely nitpicky about perce=
ived errors in the artwork and the other is quite pleased with it. The edit=
ors defend Sanho Kim's work as stylistic and praise him robustly as uniquel=
y qualified to undertake the artwork on such a project.=20
>=20
> This story was reprinted by Australian publisher Gredown in 1976.=20
>=20
> This is the last story of the Yang universe that has ever been published.=
 There was some hint in the regular Yang series that Yang himself was heade=
d back to Shanghai for a reunion with his cousin Sun Yang, but alas it will=
 never be. Sun Yang heads home at the end of this story but as far as we kn=
ow, Yang is not there to greet him.=20
>=20
> It's interesting that Joe Gill, the writer for all the Yang stories is jo=
ined by Warren Sattler, the artist on the main Yang comic for this final st=
ory of the House of Yang. Sattler's style is appealing and warm, and while =
not much like Sanho Kim's, still tells a period story quite successfully. T=
here are signs in this one thought that it was produced somewhat swiftly, s=
o Sattler is to be given some slack for that.=20
>=20
> The end of the runs of both Yang and House of Yang really finishes a peri=
od of creativity at Charlton under George Wildman's tenure. The following m=
onth will see, apart from the ghost books and the other genre titles, only =
licensed material from Charlton. The "superhero" movement which sparked bot=
h Yang and E-Man has run its course. The talent at Charlton will focus thei=
r efforts on licenses for Six-Million Dollar Man, Space:1999, Bionic Woman,=
 Emergency, and such for the next year or so.=20
>=20
> Sadly, the final days of Charlton were on the way. Though the company wou=
ld linger for another decade, it can be argued that the saga of the House o=
f Yang (as related in both Yang and House of Yang) was a worthy addition to=
 Charlton's long martial arts heritage and the last great original story in=
 the Charlton universe.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>








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Not anything soon, but later this year my plan is to look at some of the pr=
e-Action Hero stuff like Son of Vulcan, the early Blue Beetle, and the Char=
lton Tarzan series.=20

This past year was mostly post-Action Hero stuff like Yang and E-Man, the G=
eorge Wildman period. Pat Masulli's era needs more attention.=20

Thanks for asking.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
>
> After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the agenda=
?
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
>=20
>=20



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 Wishing everyone a happy new year.


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Same to you and to everyone. Thanks for checking in at the Bullseye.=20

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>  Wishing everyone a happy new year.
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Rip, these reports are excellent reading fare. After Tarzan, how about the =
Lonely War of Willy Schultz or Shotgun Harker and Chicken, or the Iron Corp=
? More great Sam Glanzman niceness!

Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
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>
>=20
>=20
> Not anything soon, but later this year my plan is to look at some of the =
pre-Action Hero stuff like Son of Vulcan, the early Blue Beetle, and the Ch=
arlton Tarzan series.=20
>=20
> This past year was mostly post-Action Hero stuff like Yang and E-Man, the=
 George Wildman period. Pat Masulli's era needs more attention.=20
>=20
> Thanks for asking.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@> wrote=
:
> >
> > After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the agen=
da?
> > =C2=A0
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
> >=20
> > --- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
> >=20
> >
>



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Thanks for this background. Joe obviously used the "Kung Fu" show as a spri=
ngboard at the time. In this he was no different from the writers at Marvel=
 and DC who also jumped on the martial arts bandwagon. The Yang stories are=
 complex and highly entertaining. Warren Sattler and Sanho Kim brought the =
scripts to life and the comics live on to this day--as so ably and entertai=
ningly chronicled by you, Rip!

Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> The one man most closely associated with all the Yang stories is writer J=
oe Gill, and despite this, he is often overlooked as the focus in comics of=
ten shifts to the artwork. I'm guilty of that in these reports as well.=20
>=20
> Joe Gill's name was so ubiquitous at Charlton that I assumed it was a hou=
se name and that one man could not possibly be responsible for all the scri=
pts attributed to him. But I was very wrong, and Joe Gill is one of those w=
orkhorse talents who I most admire these days, a guy who shows up and gets =
the job done regardless of the circumstances. He was a far from a prima don=
na as it's possible to be.=20
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> Gill worked steadily at Charlton after the Yang books folded, ending his =
career with the Derby publisher and going into semi-retirement after the co=
mpany finally folded for good in 1986. He worked on a few things here and t=
here over the years for ACE Comics and DC Comics, but oddly his final credi=
t is as a colorist for an independent comic title "Ebony Warrior".=20
>=20
> Joe Gill passed away in 2006.=20
>=20
> Warren Sattler is the guy who drew more Yang stories (both in Yang and Ho=
use of Yang) than any other artist. He is also one of those talents who Cha=
rlton seemed to attract, a distinctive stylist who likely did not possess t=
he style then common in most comics produced by Marvel and DC. He continued=
 to work for Charlton after the Yang books ended, drawing some more Billy t=
he Kid stories, but then he seemed to leave the company at about the same t=
ime as they stopped producing artwork in house so much and began to rely on=
 outside groups like those run by Gray Morrow and Pat Boyette.=20
>=20
> All the time he worked for Charlton, Sattler was working for National Lam=
poon on various projects in their magazine. He even produced a few covers f=
or them.=20
>=20
> But his real career after Yang was as a ghost comic strip artist, working=
 on Gil Thorp, Slylock Fox,and Bringing Up Father and other comic strips fo=
r years after. You don't get the recognition and awards for doing that kind=
 of work, but you get the respect of fans who know what it takes to produce=
 such high quality work for so many years.=20
>=20
> Sattler also at some point produced a musical album.=20
>=20
> Sanho Kim only drew four issues of House of Yang, but his name is forever=
 associated with the project as his Wrong Country was the original lost pro=
ject intended to be Yang.=20
>=20
> Kim left Charlton after his fourth House of Yang story and headed to Marv=
el Comics where he produced a few stories, most notably the first chapter o=
f "Swordquest" in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. But Tony DeZuniga took over that=
 series after Sanho's departure, for whatever reason.=20
>=20
> While his name was lost to comics fans for many years, he continued to wo=
rk.=20
>=20
> Sanho Kim finds his greatest success by digging back into his Korean root=
s and has been recognized as a major figure in Korean cultural research for=
 his trilogy The History of the Korean Empire.=20
>=20
> All three of these talents had and have remarkable careers, and such an a=
ssembly of talent suggests why the Yang books, as derivative as they might'=
ve been, resonate so strongly with fans so many years later.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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Yes, those would be my suggestions.=C2=A0 It's great that you put so much e=
ffort into these character histories, Rip.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith

--- On Mon, 1/2/12, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:


From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
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=C2=A0=20



Rip, these reports are excellent reading fare. After Tarzan, how about the =
Lonely War of Willy Schultz or Shotgun Harker and Chicken, or the Iron Corp=
? More great Sam Glanzman niceness!

Mike A.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
>=20
>=20
> Not anything soon, but later this year my plan is to look at some of the =
pre-Action Hero stuff like Son of Vulcan, the early Blue Beetle, and the Ch=
arlton Tarzan series.=20
>=20
> This past year was mostly post-Action Hero stuff like Yang and E-Man, the=
 George Wildman period. Pat Masulli's era needs more attention.=20
>=20
> Thanks for asking.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@> wrote=
:
> >
> > After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the agen=
da?
> > =C3=82=C2=A0
> > =C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=
=A0 Allen Smith
> >=20
> > --- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
> >=20
> >
>








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I am a big fan of these synopsis. I think there is a future book there. I am mostly a fan of the writer. I loved reading Yang. I was actually not a fan of Sattler's art. Yang had more depth than most of what was being put out at the time and certainly more than other Charlton. On the other hand the art in House of Yang blew me away. I did not get the title at the time and have never picked up enough copies to actually read the series. I think I need to.

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I would love to do an overview of Willy Schultz, Iron Corporal, and the Sho=
tgun Harker and Chicken stuff, but I have very incomplete collections of bo=
th these war epics. Plenty of samples of each, but not anywhere near all. S=
igh.=20

Great idea though.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Rip, these reports are excellent reading fare. After Tarzan, how about th=
e Lonely War of Willy Schultz or Shotgun Harker and Chicken, or the Iron Co=
rp? More great Sam Glanzman niceness!
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> >=20
> >=20
> > Not anything soon, but later this year my plan is to look at some of th=
e pre-Action Hero stuff like Son of Vulcan, the early Blue Beetle, and the =
Charlton Tarzan series.=20
> >=20
> > This past year was mostly post-Action Hero stuff like Yang and E-Man, t=
he George Wildman period. Pat Masulli's era needs more attention.=20
> >=20
> > Thanks for asking.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@> wro=
te:
> > >
> > > After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the ag=
enda?
> > > =C2=A0
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
> > >=20
> > > --- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
> > > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
> > >=20
> > >
> >
>



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I was mostly impressed by these stories when I learned (much to my surprise=
) that Charlton got there first with the Martial Arts surge of the 70's. An=
d they did a great job.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for this background. Joe obviously used the "Kung Fu" show as a sp=
ringboard at the time. In this he was no different from the writers at Marv=
el and DC who also jumped on the martial arts bandwagon. The Yang stories a=
re complex and highly entertaining. Warren Sattler and Sanho Kim brought th=
e scripts to life and the comics live on to this day--as so ably and entert=
ainingly chronicled by you, Rip!
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > The one man most closely associated with all the Yang stories is writer=
 Joe Gill, and despite this, he is often overlooked as the focus in comics =
often shifts to the artwork. I'm guilty of that in these reports as well.=20
> >=20
> > Joe Gill's name was so ubiquitous at Charlton that I assumed it was a h=
ouse name and that one man could not possibly be responsible for all the sc=
ripts attributed to him. But I was very wrong, and Joe Gill is one of those=
 workhorse talents who I most admire these days, a guy who shows up and get=
s the job done regardless of the circumstances. He was a far from a prima d=
onna as it's possible to be.=20
> >=20
> > Gill worked steadily at Charlton after the Yang books folded, ending hi=
s career with the Derby publisher and going into semi-retirement after the =
company finally folded for good in 1986. He worked on a few things here and=
 there over the years for ACE Comics and DC Comics, but oddly his final cre=
dit is as a colorist for an independent comic title "Ebony Warrior".=20
> >=20
> > Joe Gill passed away in 2006.=20
> >=20
> > Warren Sattler is the guy who drew more Yang stories (both in Yang and =
House of Yang) than any other artist. He is also one of those talents who C=
harlton seemed to attract, a distinctive stylist who likely did not possess=
 the style then common in most comics produced by Marvel and DC. He continu=
ed to work for Charlton after the Yang books ended, drawing some more Billy=
 the Kid stories, but then he seemed to leave the company at about the same=
 time as they stopped producing artwork in house so much and began to rely =
on outside groups like those run by Gray Morrow and Pat Boyette.=20
> >=20
> > All the time he worked for Charlton, Sattler was working for National L=
ampoon on various projects in their magazine. He even produced a few covers=
 for them.=20
> >=20
> > But his real career after Yang was as a ghost comic strip artist, worki=
ng on Gil Thorp, Slylock Fox,and Bringing Up Father and other comic strips =
for years after. You don't get the recognition and awards for doing that ki=
nd of work, but you get the respect of fans who know what it takes to produ=
ce such high quality work for so many years.=20
> >=20
> > Sattler also at some point produced a musical album.=20
> >=20
> > Sanho Kim only drew four issues of House of Yang, but his name is forev=
er associated with the project as his Wrong Country was the original lost p=
roject intended to be Yang.=20
> >=20
> > Kim left Charlton after his fourth House of Yang story and headed to Ma=
rvel Comics where he produced a few stories, most notably the first chapter=
 of "Swordquest" in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. But Tony DeZuniga took over th=
at series after Sanho's departure, for whatever reason.=20
> >=20
> > While his name was lost to comics fans for many years, he continued to =
work.=20
> >=20
> > Sanho Kim finds his greatest success by digging back into his Korean ro=
ots and has been recognized as a major figure in Korean cultural research f=
or his trilogy The History of the Korean Empire.=20
> >=20
> > All three of these talents had and have remarkable careers, and such an=
 assembly of talent suggests why the Yang books, as derivative as they migh=
t've been, resonate so strongly with fans so many years later.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
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I appreciate the kind words. They do take some time to do. I wanted to add =
these over at Grand Comic Database, but my summaries are too detailed for t=
hem (understandably so), so I try to publish them in as many venues as poss=
ible.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@...> wrot=
e:
>
> Yes, those would be my suggestions.=C2=A0 It's great that you put so much=
 effort into these character histories, Rip.
> =C2=A0
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Allen Smith
>=20
> --- On Mon, 1/2/12, Michael <charspot01@...> wrote:
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> From: Michael <charspot01@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: After Yang!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 8:16 PM
>=20
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> =C2=A0=20
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> Rip, these reports are excellent reading fare. After Tarzan, how about th=
e Lonely War of Willy Schultz or Shotgun Harker and Chicken, or the Iron Co=
rp? More great Sam Glanzman niceness!
>=20
> Mike A.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> >=20
> >=20
> > Not anything soon, but later this year my plan is to look at some of th=
e pre-Action Hero stuff like Son of Vulcan, the early Blue Beetle, and the =
Charlton Tarzan series.=20
> >=20
> > This past year was mostly post-Action Hero stuff like Yang and E-Man, t=
he George Wildman period. Pat Masulli's era needs more attention.=20
> >=20
> > Thanks for asking.=20
> >=20
> > Rip Off
> >=20
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Allen Smith <metron12001@> wro=
te:
> > >
> > > After all that effort on Yang, I must ask, Rip: what's next on the ag=
enda?
> > > =C3=82=C2=A0
> > > =C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=A0=C3=82=C2=
=A0 Allen Smith
> > >=20
> > > --- On Fri, 12/30/11, lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > From: lamlous <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: The Yang Reports #19
> > > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
> > >=20
> > >
> >
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There are getting to be a lot of these reports. I started with a focus on t=
he Action Heroes, but there's a lot of great Charlton stuff still out there=
 needing some attention. The westerns, the war stuff, the ghost books, even=
 the some of the romance books have some neat serial material in them.=20

Thanks for the kind words.=20

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> I am a big fan of these synopsis. I think there is a future book there. I=
 am mostly a fan of the writer. I loved reading Yang. I was actually not a =
fan of Sattler's art. Yang had more depth than most of what was being put o=
ut at the time and certainly more than other Charlton. On the other hand th=
e art in House of Yang blew me away. I did not get the title at the time an=
d have never picked up enough copies to actually read the series. I think I=
 need to.
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Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds Volume 1, Number 46 dated May, 1965. The dyn=
amic cover is by Dick Giordano. The editor and writer of the debut issue an=
d also the credited creator of Son of Vulcan was Pat Masulli. Bill Fraccio =
the penciller and Tony Tallarico the inker supplied the interior artwork fo=
r much of the comic.

"A Mighty Champion is Born!" begins with a dynamic splash page showing a fu=
lly-armored Son of Vulcan between the Roman god Mars and the Roman god Vulc=
an and announces that SoV will be a hero on Earth.=20

The story is told in first person by John ("Johnny") Mann, a reporter who w=
as wounded in Korea and has an artificial leg. On the island of Cyprete, af=
ter leaving a tenure as a reporter in Vietnam, Johnny is musing about the f=
olly of war and while walking through some Roman ruins asks why the gods, i=
f gods there be, allow such foolishness. There is burst of lightning and Jo=
hnny is struck down, seemingly by the very hand of a god itself.=20

He awakens surrounded by the full pantheon of the Romans and is immediately=
 threatened by Mars, the god of war who offers to dispose of the fragile hu=
man by dropping him out of his chariot. Jupiter then confronts Johnny from =
his throne and asks why such a weak human would criticize the gods. Johnny =
stands up for himself and says that as a reporter it is his job to tell the=
 truth. Mars again threatens Johnny, but Vulcan steps in and suggests there=
 might be more to this human that they think. Impressed by his bold honesty=
, Vulcan is allowed to question Johnny since, as Jupiter points out, it was=
 Vulcan himself who is an creator of mankind. Johnny repeats his criticism =
of the gods lack of action while wars are waged on Earth and even Jupiter t=
hreatens the brazen young man. But Venus steps in and asks a favor that Joh=
nny be spared. Then Vulcan takes Johnny under his wing, pleads his case be =
considered.=20

The debate continues, but ultimately because Vulcan sees virtue in Johnny i=
s allowed to help him when Jupiter puts the challenge before Johnny to step=
 up and fight to solve the problems he has identified. To that end, Johnny =
is granted some aspects of the power of Vulcan himself, over the objections=
 of Mars. First Vulcan fashions armor for Johnny, and then Venus gives him =
the added strength and vitality needed to wear it and wield the mighty weap=
ons at his disposal. He is not to be limited to one weapon, but may summon =
any weapon he needs such as a spear, a sword, or a sling. Fully prepared, t=
he newly christened "Son of Vulcan" is dispatched back to Earth to find and=
 battle the threats to world peace.=20

"The Snake People" is a one-page text piece which tells of a man who dreams=
 of a deadly green snake with red eyes. When he draws the snake and shows i=
t to experts, he is summoned and confronted by the police who are investiga=
ting mysterious deaths perhaps caused by just such a snake, as reported by =
one man who survived long enough to report. He is told of a cult who worshi=
p snakes and even believe they can become them. The man is given police pro=
tection and sure enough he dreams of the snake again and then finds he is a=
bout to be bitten when a shot rings out and the snake is slain. A man's bod=
y is found where the snake had been and the whole affair is reported as the=
 attack of a mere intruder.

"Watchdogs of the Deep" is a one-page comics tale about how sharks make eff=
ective guardians for deep sea activities in the Cold War, making things dif=
ficult for Communist spies, but also being quite dangerous to the forces of=
 the free world. The artwork is by Bill Molno.=20

"He Stands Alone" is the second Son of Vulcan story in this issue. It is wr=
itten by Pat Masulli, and the art is again by the team of Bill Fraccio and =
Tony Tallarico. The time is 1965 and the Son of Vulcan returns to the islan=
d of Cyprete where live to distinct populations, the Preterons and the Cycl=
ates, both who believe in the myth of the Giant Gladiator, who will one day=
 appear and lead one of those groups to domination of the other and the who=
le island.=20

Son of Vulcan transforms back to Johnny Mann and drops out of the sky onto =
the island, where he heads immediately to speak to General Ator of the Cycl=
ates, hoping to bring reason to the situation. He finds though that Ator is=
 a firm believer in the myth of the Gladiator. Johnny then tracks down a ru=
mor that the Giant Gladiator has already appeared and indeed finds the gian=
t in a local village of the Preteons, urging them on to war. Transforming i=
nto Son of Vulcan, he follows the giant as he heads to a giant colosseum kn=
own as the "Tomb of the Gladiators". Behind a great stone door, he hears a =
voice not belonging to the Gladiator and finds the Asian villain Dr.Kong re=
veal he is behind this charade and that he is plotting to take over the isl=
and himself. But SoV is careless and Kong drops him through a trapdoor into=
 a well where he must fight a deadly octopus. The epic struggle with the oc=
topus lasts all night, but in the morning Son of Vulcan is at last able to =
overcome the beast and escape the trap.=20

He then finds the Cyclates led by Ator and the Preteons on a battlefield re=
ady to wage war as the Giant Gladiator pledges control to the victorious ar=
my. Son of Vulcan intervenes and agrees to battle the Gladiator. A furious =
battle ensues during which SoV uses many weapons including a fiery sling an=
d his enormous shield. Ultimately he deciphers the secret of the Gladiator =
and calls for the sword of Ulysses and with a single stroke stabs the Gladi=
ator through his helmet, whereupon the giant falls to the ground. It is rev=
ealed that the Gladiator is actually a giant robot and the both the deceive=
d groups, the Cyclates and the Preteons seek the mastermind Dr.Kong who is =
seemingly crushed beneath the falling ruins of the colosseum. As Johnny Man=
n drives out of Cyprete though, we see the evil Dr.Kong in disguise already=
 scheming for his revenge.=20

"The Minatures" is a one-page science fiction story about Earth men who mus=
t meet a race of ten-foot tall giants as they descend in their rockets. The=
 aliens discover that the Earth men are much larger than they and immediate=
ly decide to leave. It is revealed that the Earth men have used robotic dup=
licates to deceive the aliens. The artwork is by Rocke Mastroserio.=20

"The Roman Gods on Mount Olympus" is a three-page overview of the Roman pan=
theon and associated myths. Jupiter, Neptuen, Juno, Pluto, Minerva, Vulcan,=
 Mars, Apollo, Venus, Cupid, Mercury, Saturn, Janus, Pan, Midas, and Atlas =
all get a single panel of description. The artwork is by Charles Nicholas.=
=20

There's little denying the similarity of the premise of Son of Vulcan to Ma=
rvel's Thor who had debuted three years earlier. A lame human who is given =
the power of the gods does seem all too familiar. But that is also the prem=
ise of Captain Marvel Jr., and Freddy Freeman and not Dr.Don Blake nor John=
ny Mann is the one who gets the powers. So this is a long-standing premise =
with a great deal of history. It is a bit of an irony that Thor debuted in =
a long-running mystery tale comic with no previous history of superheroes a=
nd so did Son of Vulcan, but there it is.=20

The anti-war sentiment in this story really is remarkable, given that we ar=
e talking about a 1965 comic book. Vietnam is name-checked, though Johnny's=
 experience is mostly with Korea. The futility of war seems almost to be th=
e underlying theme of the whole comic. Of course the dilemma is what to do =
with an armored hero who hates war, but is all too willing to fight. The pa=
cifism is muddled, as it would be later when Charlton's other Peacemaker wo=
uld debut a few years later. I imagine "Cyprete" is a reference to Cyprus, =
which suffered from similar ethnic divisions.=20=20

The strongest aspect of this comic is the characterization which is surpris=
ingly rich for a Charlton comic of this era. The gods are distinctive and J=
ohnny himself has a specific voice, a consistent tone especially in the ver=
y talky origin story.=20

Most folks will criticize the artwork, but personally I've always been a fa=
n of the Fraccio-Tallarico team. I find their work while it might lack the =
polish of some has an incredible kinetic energy that really moves the reade=
r along. The action can be uninspiring in places, but awesome in others. Th=
ere's a lot of story to be told in this first pair of tales and so I cut th=
em some slack if panels seem a bit static as information is delivered.=20

Son of Vulcan is a fun comic from a company which was only known at the tim=
e for two superheroes -- Captain Atom and Blue Beetle. Only the Beetle was =
being published new at the same time as Son of Vulcan debuted while reprint=
s of Captain Atom are just being rolled out.=20

There will be more to come.=20

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Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds Volume 1, Number 47 starring Son of Vulcan i=
s dated July, 1965. The editor in chief is Pat Masulli, who is credited wit=
h creating Son of Vulcan. The cover is by Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallarico w=
ho are also the artists of record for most of the interiors of the comic. T=
he writer for this issue is Joe Gill, the iron man of Charlton scribes.=20

"The Golden Curse" begins with a discourse on marriage, wealth, and greed, =
and introduces our main players. We first meet Leonard Lambie, a professor =
of mythology at a small university. He lives a life of relative poverty and=
 is put upon by his unhappy wife. He reads of the exploits of Son of Vulcan=
 and wishes that he too could access the powers of the gods. He especially =
dreams of having the power of King Midas as he does the evening dishes with=
 his disapproving wife glaring at him.=20

The scene shifts to the apartment of Johnny Mann, reporter and mortal ident=
ity of the Son of Vulcan. He is awakened by a heavenly announcement that Ma=
rs, the God of War will soon arrive to bring him to Olympus to face judgeme=
nt. Mars, who is not happy that Son of Vulcan has been successful with his =
godly gifts, brings him to Olympus where he is reunited with his adopted fa=
ther Vulcan and the beautiful Venus. Jupiter sits upon his throne and prono=
unces that in the case of Cyprete (from the debut issue) Son of Vulcan has =
performed well. This does not go over well with Mars who plots to undermine=
 SoV's success.=20

To that end he visits the disgruntled Leonard Lambie and gifts him with the=
 gauntlets of King Midas, which can turn objects to gold. But Mars fails in=
tentionally to tell Lambie that the effect wears off after forty-eight hour=
s.=20

"Planet Urth" is a one-page text piece which is actually a letter from the =
Martian leader Mishi Ucha, and puts forth his strong opinions about how the=
 Maritians should best pursue their military goals. He urges war with the V=
enusians, to show the upstarts their proper place in the galaxy and he then=
 suggests war with the Saturnians should be next. He is dismissive of the i=
dea of "Project Urth" put forth by Professor Slumpshi because Ucha finds th=
e idea that intelligent life could be on the humble planet too remote a pos=
sibility to consider.=20

The story of Leonard Lambie continues as he demonstrates his new godly gift=
s to his wife by changing the trash can to gold. She remains unimpressed so=
 he changes her to gold too in a fit of anger. He enjoys the new quiet it b=
rings.=20

Meanwhile Johnny Mann is given a new assignment to investigate Zoloto, the =
world's biggest gold dealer and a man who has been suspiciously hoarding go=
ld and hiding it. Johnny goes to Zoloto's offices, replete with golden them=
es, and is violently ejected at gunpoint. He passes Leonard Lambie who meet=
s with Zoloto to turn his new gold into hard cash. Zoloto, after seeing the=
 gauntlets work, strikes a bargain with Lambie and sends him on his way, bu=
t then sends his henchmen to follow him.=20

At his home Lambie adopts a costume befitting his Midas role as Mars looks =
down upon him satisfied that Son of Vulcan will falter in the face of this =
new threat. Johnny Mann though has followed Zoloto's thugs to Lambie's hous=
e and seeing their violent intentions transforms into the mighty Son of Vul=
can and faces off against them. But Lambie turns SoV into a gold statue too=
 and the whole lot then are taken to Zoloto's grotto where the statues of S=
oV and Lambie's wife are about to be melted down to make ingots.=20

Lambie though wants them to be saved and Zoloto relents momentarily only to=
 show Lambie how little authority he has. Son of Vulcan is still able to th=
ink, if not move, and he uses telepathy to tell Lambie that Zoloto only wan=
ts to remove him and his gauntlets as they will only make his gold cheaper =
by increasing the relative supply. Then SoV and Lambie's wife are put back =
on the conveyor belt to be melted down.=20

Son of Vulcan though does not melt, his godly powers making him invulnerabl=
e and he turns back to his true nature. He calls upon Vulcan to send him a =
mace which he does and SoV then demolishes the furnace. Zoloto attempts to =
escape and use poison gas to kill everyone in the grotto but Lambie turns h=
im to gold before can act. Mars is unhappy that SoV has succeeded.=20

The police arrive and Son of Vulcan explains things and Lambie submits hims=
elf to the authorities for his two "murders". But then the forty-eight hour=
s pass and Lambie's wife reverts to normal. Since the effect is not permane=
nt, the police are sure Lambie's punishment will be less severe.=20

Son of Vulcan returns the gauntlets of Midas back to Olympus were Mars is f=
orced to confess he was behind the scheme the whole time. As Jupiter lavish=
es praise on Son of Vulcan Mars plots revenge as does Zoloto in a prison ce=
ll far away. With these looming threats and the mention of Dr.Kong also, So=
n of Vulcan's future looks far from bright.

"Strange Galaxy" is a three-page comic story about a space ship and its lon=
e occupant Major Rauss that heads to the Moon too fast, misses it entirely =
and instead heads into deep space and a galaxy far away only to land on a d=
istant planet where the pilot is met with relatively hospitality. The art i=
s by Charles Nicholas on pencils and Rocke Mastroserio on inks.=20=20

This is a solid issue of Charlton entertainment. The characters so well exp=
lained last issue are vivid and the story falls into place quickly. Joe Gil=
l's script is lean and there's a real momentum to the storytelling in this =
one. The artwork by Fraccio and Tallarico is a wonderful example of what th=
ey can do.

The cover is a busy and hectic one indeed, and sadly not very dynamic. The =
bearded King Midas with his long white beard is not the Leonard Lambie we h=
ave inside. The costume and crown are similar but he's a smaller fellow wit=
h no whiskers at all.=20

This issue was something of a grail book for me for many years. Before the =
convenience of the internet, rounding up back issues was a slow process ind=
eed. I looked for this particular issue for at least five years before find=
ing a moth-eaten copy. It was a great to have it and be able to at long las=
t read the entire Son of Vulcan Charlton saga. It's that kind of satisfacti=
on that makes this hobby so much fun.=20

This story was reprinted by Alan Class in Uncanny Tales #180.

More to come.=20

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Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds Volume 1, Number 48 is dated September, 1965=
. The editor-in-chief and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The cove=
r is by regular artists Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallarico, who also provide t=
he artwork on the main story inside. The writer is again the always reliabl=
e Joe Gill.=20

"Fury of the War God" begins with a symbolic splash page showing a chained =
Son of Vulcan threatened by a disguised Mars, God of War and despairing of =
getting aid from Olympus.=20

The story proper begins in the jungles of Vietnam where Mars is checking ou=
t the ongoing struggle between the forces of North and South Vietnam. A fur=
ious lightning bolt erupts and he is summoned to the throne of Jupiter who =
voices his displeasure with his son and his warlike ways, and wishes he cou=
ld be more like the Son of Vulcan.=20

The scene shifts to the offices of the news syndicate which employs Johnny =
Mann and who is getting his latest assignment. It is to go to the waters of=
 the Arctic and explore the disappearance of three meteorologists. The wate=
rs are the domain of a whaler named Captain Tusk. Johnny thinks a better st=
ory is to be found in the Near East where mobs have been attacking embassie=
s, but he is overruled.=20

The scene shifts again to the Near East where it is revealed that Mars is m=
anipulating the crowds to create the attacks on the embassies, to foment ag=
gression against the Americans. Jupiter though has had enough and punishes =
Mars for his meddling by casting him down to Earth, and stripped of much of=
 his godly might and power. Ironically he is cast down right into the area =
of the Arctic into which Johnny Man is headed.=20

There Mars finds Captain Tusk and his lovely daughter Sally at dinner. Mars=
 then captures the pair of them and makes himself the twin of Captain Tusk,=
 thus taking control of his whaling fleet. He puts his captives in an ice c=
ave where the missing scientists also happen to be.=20

"Imbalance" is a one-page text piece about a city that suddenly finds that =
half of it is sinking and other half is rising. It turns out that one side =
has too many tall skyscrapers and it has created an imbalance.  A professor=
 puts forth a dramatic plan to demolish enough buildings on one side to bal=
ance the city again. Desperate this plan is used and hence forth any large =
building on one side will be matched with another on the other.=20

Part 2 "The New Captain Tusk" begins as Mars disguised as Tusk is leading h=
is whaling fleet on a rampage through the Northern waters attacking vessels=
 and planes alike to establish his claim. News of this violent behavior rea=
ches Johnny Mann who becomes Son of Vulcan and flies to investigate. Follow=
ing an odd electronic signal he finds the Tusks and the scientists within t=
he ice cave and calls upon Vulcan for aid to help them. Vulcan sends a ball=
 of fire which melts the ice posthaste.=20

Mars witnesses the release via a remote camera and races to the scene in a =
rocket-powered snow sled. He finds and attacks Son of Vulcan who soon enoug=
h discovers that his enemy is an imposter and has enormous strength. He kno=
cks SoV out and escapes. Son of Vulcan divines that it must be Mars he is b=
attling with and flies after his nemesis, confronting him aboard his ship w=
here once again Son of Vulcan is struck down, this time by a thunder strike=
. Chained, Son of Vulcan is the fake Tusk's prisoner.=20

Part 3 "The Villain" has the ship controlled by Mars/Tusk rampaging through=
 the Northern waters with Son of Vulcan chained and held prisoner in the bo=
w. This is seen from Olympus and Jupiter incorrectly surmises that SoV is t=
he culprit behind this latest wave of violence. Vulcan protests, but to no =
avail. Mars/Tusk continues his attacks until he is confronted by a U.S.Nava=
l vessel armed with nuclear shells.=20

These shells are fired and the conflagration is ferocious but only succeeds=
 in freeing Son of Vulcan who once again takes after the fleeing Mars/Tusk =
who tries to use a harpoon gun against our hero. Sally Tusk intercedes and =
causes him to fire into the ship itself which blows up. Son of Vulcan saves=
 Sally from attacking Killer Whales, but it is left to Mars to save the rea=
l Captain Tusk, which he in fact does, proving he is not all bad.

Mars disappears and is presumed dead, but Johnny Mann now safe aboard a nav=
al ship along with both Captain and Sally Tusk is not so sure, and feels he=
 will need to be guarded against the eventual return of the war god.=20

"Volcano" is a three-page comic story about various real world volcanoes th=
roughout the world and history. Mentioned are volcanoes Vesuvius, Krakatoa,=
 Pelee, and Mauna Loa among others. The art is supplied by Rocke Mastroseri=
o.=20

This is the last issue of "Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds" by that title. A=
nd it was the one issue of the adventures of Son of Vulcan I most wanted si=
nce seeing the cover as a boy in early Charlton comics house ads. I mistake=
nly thought Jim Aparo did the cover for years until I was able to see a cop=
y of the comic firsthand at long last. It's easily the best Son of Vulcan c=
over aside from the debut issue.=20

The adventure establishes firmly Mars as the primary opponent of SoV, a sim=
ilar situation to what Charlton's Hercules will find a few years later unde=
r the capable hands of Joe Gill and Sam Glanzman when Ares, the Greek equiv=
alent proves to be his primary menace. We also get a peek at the feud betwe=
en Jupiter and Vulcan as their sons are compared.=20=20

The anti-war theme reappears in this issue, with the conflict in Vietnam de=
scribed by Mars as not even a proper conflict given its low-tech manner.=20

It's hard really to understand the nature of Captain Tusk's situation in th=
e Arctic as he seems to claim vast stretches of ocean as his domain. Under =
what legal right he claims this territory is uncertain and unstated.=20

Another solid entertainment by rock-solid professionals. With the next issu=
e the amateur fan creators will be making their presence felt on the Son of=
 Vulcan.

The story was reprinted by Alan Class in Secrets of the Unknown #169.=20

More to come.=20

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Son of Vulcan Volume Two, Number 49 is dated November 1965. This comic cont=
inues the numbering of Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. The editor in chief =
and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The script is by Joe Gill. The=
 interior artwork is by the reliable team of Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallaric=
o. The cover art is by Bill Fraccio and the inks are by Rocke Mastroserio. =
(The Grand Comic Book Database attributes these inks to Tallarico, but I di=
sagree.)=20

"The Diamond Dancers" begins in the big city where Dr.Kong, arch-enemy of S=
on of Vulcan is inspecting some diamonds at the Diamond Exchange. He then h=
eads over to the theater where under the name of "Changchin" he is appearin=
g in a play titled "A Chinese Folly". There he removes his large ring which=
 is actually a camera and orders a young lady to develop the film.=20

Meanwhile Johnny Mann is interviewing the head of the Exchange and asks him=
 if he thinks the two billion dollars worth of jewels are in threat of robb=
ery and is assured such a thing is impossible.=20

Dr.Kong gets into his costume and heads to the stage while Johnny decides t=
o take in a show. He recognizes his old enemy despite the costume and make-=
up and changes into Son of Vulcan, this time sporting a somewhat more elabo=
rate costume.  (More on that later.)

The Story then shifts back in time to the end of last issue when Mars was u=
nder attack by sea creatures. He escapes that threat and then finds large s=
tores of diamonds in the Arctic. He decides to use this wealth to assume th=
e identity of Warren Masters, and heads to the city and the diamond exchang=
e. He finds himself outside the performance of "A Chinese Folly" at the sam=
e time that Son of Vulcan is demanding to see Dr.Kong.

Son of Vulcan confronts Dr.Kong and the two battle, Kong using his enormous=
 electric sword and SoV using an axe. Son of Vulcan is struck down by Kong =
as Mars/Masters appears. The two villains talks and decide to work together=
 to defeat their common foe. To that end they find a great pile driver at a=
 local building site and using a steel beam drive the invulnerable Son of V=
ulcan deep into the Earth, creating a prison for him.

"The Magic Wand" is a one-page text piece telling the story of a television=
 show and its special effects guru Burt Carsons. Carsons was contracted to =
create effects for a new show called "The Magic Wand", particularly a way t=
o seemingly explode boulders and he does so by creating a "magic wand" powe=
red by electricity which is immensely powerful and which is then used by it=
s creator to take over the world.=20

Part II "The Living Tomb" begins as Son of Vulcan calls out to his adopted =
father Vulcan for help but it turns out that Vulcan and Venus have been for=
bidden by Jupiter to help SoV since his activities had forced Jupiter to ba=
nish Mars. Nonetheless Vulcan sends a fireball to help and it ignites a sea=
m of coal in the ground around SoV and this allows him to explosively escap=
e the trap.=20

Son of Vulcan then seeks out Dr.Kong and changes to Johnny Mann to do so. M=
eanwhile the two villains are working together to break into the Diamond Ex=
change, which shares a wall with the theater and while Kong uses fireworks =
to create a distraction on stage, Mars/Masters uses a bazooka to break thro=
ugh. Johnny Mann confronts Kong but must change to Son of Vulcan to escape =
his sword which then breaks on SoV's mighty shield.=20

Mars/Masters then appears and uses gas to subdue Son of Vulcan. Then he and=
 Dr.Kong gather the diamonds and repair the wall, being careful to put Son =
of Vulcan within so he will get the blame. But the villains fall out as Mar=
s wants Kong to pay for his crimes, but Kong is too clever and captures the=
 god in a booby-trapped chair.

In Olympus Vulcan sends the real King Midas to assist Son of Vulcan by chan=
ging the Diamond Exchange wall to softer gold which SoV can break through e=
asily.=20

He confronts Mars/Masters and learns that Dr.Kong is seeking to escape by b=
oat. Flying to the docks, he finds the ship and learns that Kong is not yet=
 aboard. He then goes underwater, finds Kong's one-man submarine and disabl=
es it. As Kong sinks to the bottom, Son of Vulcan returns the stolen diamon=
ds and when he returns to the theater finds Mars gone but threatening to re=
turn.=20

"Enemies of the Deep" is a three-page comic story featuring dangerous sea c=
reatures such as the hammerhead shark, the sea leopard, the killer whale, a=
nd the moray eel. The story features art by Frank McLaughlin.=20

This is hugely fun, if hugely goofy issue. The way the two villains with th=
eir immense abilities work so mightily to steal some paltry diamonds is mil=
dly hilarious. Son of Vulcan seems to completely stumble across the plot, a=
nd this story to a greater degree than earlier one seems utterly dependent =
upon coincidence to work.=20

The new look of Son of Vulcan is the handiwork of a young Dave Cockrum, who=
 would be very famous later for revising the look of DC's Legion of Superhe=
roes and later Marvel's X-Men. This new armor is more detailed, but I'm not=
 sure myself if it's a stronger design. The added details seem I think to d=
etract from the basic shape, and make the whole thing a bit muddy. But if b=
ecause of the perceived dreary costume or whatever,  clearly the series was=
 lagging in sales, and this was an attempt to salvage it. Cockrum gets no m=
ention inside the issue, but they did give him billing of his work on the c=
over itself, possibly since covers typically go to press last.=20

This penultimate issue of Son of Vulcan is a hoot, but with only a single C=
harlton episode remaining things look grim for our hero.=20

This story was reprinted by Alan Class in Uncanny Tales #87.=20

A little more to come.=20

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 Hi Rip, This is a great chracter with a great villian reminds me of Thor a=
nd Loki. Your synopsis is very easy to understand and enjoyable. thanks.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Son of Vulcan Volume Two, Number 49 is dated November 1965. This comic co=
ntinues the numbering of Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds. The editor in chie=
f and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The script is by Joe Gill. T=
he interior artwork is by the reliable team of Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallar=
ico. The cover art is by Bill Fraccio and the inks are by Rocke Mastroserio=
. (The Grand Comic Book Database attributes these inks to Tallarico, but I =
disagree.)=20
>=20
> "The Diamond Dancers" begins in the big city where Dr.Kong, arch-enemy of=
 Son of Vulcan is inspecting some diamonds at the Diamond Exchange. He then=
 heads over to the theater where under the name of "Changchin" he is appear=
ing in a play titled "A Chinese Folly". There he removes his large ring whi=
ch is actually a camera and orders a young lady to develop the film.=20
>=20
> Meanwhile Johnny Mann is interviewing the head of the Exchange and asks h=
im if he thinks the two billion dollars worth of jewels are in threat of ro=
bbery and is assured such a thing is impossible.=20
>=20
> Dr.Kong gets into his costume and heads to the stage while Johnny decides=
 to take in a show. He recognizes his old enemy despite the costume and mak=
e-up and changes into Son of Vulcan, this time sporting a somewhat more ela=
borate costume.  (More on that later.)
>=20
> The Story then shifts back in time to the end of last issue when Mars was=
 under attack by sea creatures. He escapes that threat and then finds large=
 stores of diamonds in the Arctic. He decides to use this wealth to assume =
the identity of Warren Masters, and heads to the city and the diamond excha=
nge. He finds himself outside the performance of "A Chinese Folly" at the s=
ame time that Son of Vulcan is demanding to see Dr.Kong.
>=20
> Son of Vulcan confronts Dr.Kong and the two battle, Kong using his enormo=
us electric sword and SoV using an axe. Son of Vulcan is struck down by Kon=
g as Mars/Masters appears. The two villains talks and decide to work togeth=
er to defeat their common foe. To that end they find a great pile driver at=
 a local building site and using a steel beam drive the invulnerable Son of=
 Vulcan deep into the Earth, creating a prison for him.
>=20
> "The Magic Wand" is a one-page text piece telling the story of a televisi=
on show and its special effects guru Burt Carsons. Carsons was contracted t=
o create effects for a new show called "The Magic Wand", particularly a way=
 to seemingly explode boulders and he does so by creating a "magic wand" po=
wered by electricity which is immensely powerful and which is then used by =
its creator to take over the world.=20
>=20
> Part II "The Living Tomb" begins as Son of Vulcan calls out to his adopte=
d father Vulcan for help but it turns out that Vulcan and Venus have been f=
orbidden by Jupiter to help SoV since his activities had forced Jupiter to =
banish Mars. Nonetheless Vulcan sends a fireball to help and it ignites a s=
eam of coal in the ground around SoV and this allows him to explosively esc=
ape the trap.=20
>=20
> Son of Vulcan then seeks out Dr.Kong and changes to Johnny Mann to do so.=
 Meanwhile the two villains are working together to break into the Diamond =
Exchange, which shares a wall with the theater and while Kong uses firework=
s to create a distraction on stage, Mars/Masters uses a bazooka to break th=
rough. Johnny Mann confronts Kong but must change to Son of Vulcan to escap=
e his sword which then breaks on SoV's mighty shield.=20
>=20
> Mars/Masters then appears and uses gas to subdue Son of Vulcan. Then he a=
nd Dr.Kong gather the diamonds and repair the wall, being careful to put So=
n of Vulcan within so he will get the blame. But the villains fall out as M=
ars wants Kong to pay for his crimes, but Kong is too clever and captures t=
he god in a booby-trapped chair.
>=20
> In Olympus Vulcan sends the real King Midas to assist Son of Vulcan by ch=
anging the Diamond Exchange wall to softer gold which SoV can break through=
 easily.=20
>=20
> He confronts Mars/Masters and learns that Dr.Kong is seeking to escape by=
 boat. Flying to the docks, he finds the ship and learns that Kong is not y=
et aboard. He then goes underwater, finds Kong's one-man submarine and disa=
bles it. As Kong sinks to the bottom, Son of Vulcan returns the stolen diam=
onds and when he returns to the theater finds Mars gone but threatening to =
return.=20
>=20
> "Enemies of the Deep" is a three-page comic story featuring dangerous sea=
 creatures such as the hammerhead shark, the sea leopard, the killer whale,=
 and the moray eel. The story features art by Frank McLaughlin.=20
>=20
> This is hugely fun, if hugely goofy issue. The way the two villains with =
their immense abilities work so mightily to steal some paltry diamonds is m=
ildly hilarious. Son of Vulcan seems to completely stumble across the plot,=
 and this story to a greater degree than earlier one seems utterly dependen=
t upon coincidence to work.=20
>=20
> The new look of Son of Vulcan is the handiwork of a young Dave Cockrum, w=
ho would be very famous later for revising the look of DC's Legion of Super=
heroes and later Marvel's X-Men. This new armor is more detailed, but I'm n=
ot sure myself if it's a stronger design. The added details seem I think to=
 detract from the basic shape, and make the whole thing a bit muddy. But if=
 because of the perceived dreary costume or whatever,  clearly the series w=
as lagging in sales, and this was an attempt to salvage it. Cockrum gets no=
 mention inside the issue, but they did give him billing of his work on the=
 cover itself, possibly since covers typically go to press last.=20
>=20
> This penultimate issue of Son of Vulcan is a hoot, but with only a single=
 Charlton episode remaining things look grim for our hero.=20
>=20
> This story was reprinted by Alan Class in Uncanny Tales #87.=20
>=20
> A little more to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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Son of Vulcan Volume 2, Number 50 is dated January, 1966. The editor in chi=
ef and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The artwork is supplied onc=
e again by Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallarico. They also supplied the artwork =
on the cover. The big news this time is that Roy Thomas, a neophyte writer =
from the fan community offers up the script, Roy "Not-Yet-The-Boy" Thomas b=
egins his comics career here with this story in the final issue of Son of V=
ulcan.=20

"The Second Trojan War" begins with Johnny Mann of World-Wide Correspondent=
s interviewing movie director A.J. Colosso who is making a movie about the =
Trojan War. Colosso regales Johnny with some background info, essentially l=
aying out some of the more famous details from Homer's epic saga. But then =
a scream from Lisa Collins, the starlet of the picture sends Colosso runnin=
g. Johnny takes that chance to transform into Son of Vulcan.=20

He finds the actress threatened by runaway horses pulling a chariot, and us=
ing his strength from the gods, the "Mightiest of Mortals" pulls horses, ch=
ariot and all into the sky and out of harm's way. Lisa is ecstatic and give=
s her hero a big kiss but then is frustrated when Colosso fails to get this=
 moment on camera denying her the publicity. Then the actor playing Achille=
s quits the movie. Son of Vulcan agrees to play the part and help Colosso o=
ut.=20

The scene shifts to the secret lair of Dr.Kong, the arch-nemesis of Son of =
Vulcan who is using his defective robot assistant "Adam Klink" to undermine=
 the movie production for reasons that go unstated.=20

Son of Vulcan starts his movie career but has it interrupted when Lisa is a=
gain threatened by a falling wall, but she is saved when Son of Vulcan puts=
 himself between her and the falling debris. But she is unhappy he didn't j=
ust sweep her up in his arms out of harm's way. The section closes with Lis=
a unhappy with Colosso and her hero Son of Vulcan and SoV convinced there's=
 more to her than meets the eye. Dr.Kong threatens to do more mischief.=20

"Green Goo" is a one-page text story about the sudden and dangerous appeara=
nce of  a murky green ooze which rises from the ocean's waters and begins t=
o creep across the ground. After much hubbub and speculation about its orig=
ins, and some significant damage a military officer suggests that great dit=
ches be cut to allow the goo to follow the path of least resistance back to=
 its origins in the sea. It works for now.=20

Part 2 "Prisoners of Doctor Kong" begins with Son of Vulcan using a great g=
ladiator's net to throw the stone debris into space. He and Colosso then di=
scover the metal footprint of Adam Klink and suspect sabotage. That night A=
dam Klink appears and kidnaps Lisa and Son of Vulcan sees and follows. But =
when Klink drops down a narrow hole in the ground, SoV is forced to change =
back to Johnny Mann to follow him down. This allows him to be captured by D=
r.Kong and he manacled to the wall and gagged.=20

Kong then introduces his weapon, the Anima-Ray which he plans to use to ani=
mate great statues like the Statue of Liberty and the Sphinx and thus conqu=
er the world. Kong leaves to start more trouble for the movie company and l=
eaves Johnny being guarded by the clumsy Klink. But Johnny is at last able =
to remove his gag and transforms into Son of Vulcan and with one blow demol=
ishes Adam Klink. He then follows Kong and is stunned at what he sees.=20

Part 3 "The Trojan Horse Walks!" starts as Son of Vulcan is confronted by t=
he enormous Trojan Horse, built for the movie, and the behemoth is walking =
and promptly attacks Son of Vulcan. The battle rages, as SoV calls down a m=
ace.=20

Ultimately he uses bow and a flaming arrow to begin a fire in the mouth of =
the giant false horse but it makes the Horse even more wild and out of cont=
rol. Son of Vulcan saves the director Colosso from being crushed under the =
hooves, but then he realizes that Lisa Collins is captive inside the Trojan=
 Horse.=20

Rushing into the monster, he frees Lisa and the Horse at last burns to the =
ground. Dr.Kong then animates a local stream of water and sends it against =
Son of Vulcan but with the water pursuing him wherever he went, SoV is able=
 to turn it against Kong by flying right past him. Overwhelmed by the water=
, Kong's Anima-Ray is destroyed and the threat is at last over.=20

The scene shifts several months later to the Hollywood premiere of the movi=
e "Warrior Against Troy" starring Lisa Collins and Son of Vulcan and Lisa C=
ollins is interviewed by Johnny Mann. She is upset and throws a camera at h=
is head when he suggests the star of the movie is Son of Vulcan and not Lis=
a herself, somehow Johnny interprets to mean Lisa might be interested roman=
tically in the Son of Vulcan.=20

Dr.Kong plots further trouble from his jail cell in final panel.=20

"The Strangers" follows several aliens as they arrive one by one across the=
 globe and are confronted by various creatures in various climates. They ar=
e startled by a snake, upset by a skunk, bothered by a hornet's nest, assau=
lted by a snapping turtle, attacked by a bull, and swatted by a housewife b=
efore deciding to leave the planet and head home with the words "Go!Man...G=
o!!". The artwork is by Ernie Bache.=20

This is the final issue of Charlton's Son of Vulcan series. With a costume =
redesigned by fan Dave Cockrum last issue and a complete script by fan Roy =
Thomas this issue, it's clear that Charlton is attempting to tap that base =
of dedicated comic book readers who have been kindled by the success of DC =
and Marvel especially. This script by Roy is a bit of a Hail Mary, a last-d=
itch attempt to generate some interest in Son of Vulcan, a hero who clearly=
 seems not to have found an audience. The stage is set for a change of edit=
orial regimes as Pat Masulli will give way to Dick Giordano and the era of =
"Action Heroes" looms.=20

This particular story is very different from previous issues in that the go=
ds are not present at all. Only Vulcan is referenced at all but he is not s=
een. Of course there's much mythology present in the shape of the movie abo=
ut the Trojan War, but the whole feel of this story is different. Ironicall=
y in this story about the most famous war in history, the anti-war theme wh=
ich has been a part of most previous issues is ignored.=20

One thing though that does alas come through is a change in personality for=
 Son of Vulcan. He sounds more like the perpetual adolescents that populate=
 early comics, the kind who are awkward around girls for no particular reas=
on. That's clearly an attempt to characterize Son of Vulcan, but it's a bit=
 of a cliche and doesn't fit him I fear.=20

"Adam Klink" is a clear reference to "Adam Link" the creation of Eando (Ear=
l and Otto) Binder who appeared in science fiction stories and in comics ta=
les. It's a clever spin, and the idea of a malfunctioning henchman robot is=
 a neat one.=20

All in all this is a sturdy enough comic, but it turns away from what made =
Son of Vulcan distinctive, perhaps with good reason. It's regrettable the s=
eries ends with this story, but I imagine Dr.Kong is still in prison to thi=
s day. What a wretched little man.

With the next issue, the numbering will continue, but the title will change=
 to Thunderbolt, the action hero created by Pete Morisi. Looking at the hou=
se ad above, it seems this was a last minute decision as the ad suggests th=
at Thunderbolt will continue and so will Son of Vulcan. But apparently Thun=
derbolt's series gets cancelled after a single issue and he takes over for =
Vulcan's favorite Son.=20

Charlton apparently was able to get quick results from the sales of its boo=
ks and the company wasted no time in making moves to maximize sales and the=
 precious shelf space they battled for each and every day.=20

There is some evidence that Roy Thomas and fan artists Biljo White and Sam =
Grainger proposed a revised Son of Vulcan to Charlton Comics, but nothing c=
ame of it. A single page of this proposal can be found in Bill Schelly's Fa=
ndom's Finest Comics. It showcases a sleeker Son of Vulcan, minus the large=
 helmet and the full armor.=20

Later Son of Vulcan will get sold to DC Comics along with the other "Action=
 Heroes" (how he got grouped with them is anyone's guess)and next time we t=
ake a look at his brief time at DC Comics.=20

More to come.=20

Rip Off


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looking forward to next chapter.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@...> wrote=
:
>
> Son of Vulcan Volume 2, Number 50 is dated January, 1966. The editor in c=
hief and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The artwork is supplied o=
nce again by Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallarico. They also supplied the artwor=
k on the cover. The big news this time is that Roy Thomas, a neophyte write=
r from the fan community offers up the script, Roy "Not-Yet-The-Boy" Thomas=
 begins his comics career here with this story in the final issue of Son of=
 Vulcan.=20
>=20
> "The Second Trojan War" begins with Johnny Mann of World-Wide Corresponde=
nts interviewing movie director A.J. Colosso who is making a movie about th=
e Trojan War. Colosso regales Johnny with some background info, essentially=
 laying out some of the more famous details from Homer's epic saga. But the=
n a scream from Lisa Collins, the starlet of the picture sends Colosso runn=
ing. Johnny takes that chance to transform into Son of Vulcan.=20
>=20
> He finds the actress threatened by runaway horses pulling a chariot, and =
using his strength from the gods, the "Mightiest of Mortals" pulls horses, =
chariot and all into the sky and out of harm's way. Lisa is ecstatic and gi=
ves her hero a big kiss but then is frustrated when Colosso fails to get th=
is moment on camera denying her the publicity. Then the actor playing Achil=
les quits the movie. Son of Vulcan agrees to play the part and help Colosso=
 out.=20
>=20
> The scene shifts to the secret lair of Dr.Kong, the arch-nemesis of Son o=
f Vulcan who is using his defective robot assistant "Adam Klink" to undermi=
ne the movie production for reasons that go unstated.=20
>=20
> Son of Vulcan starts his movie career but has it interrupted when Lisa is=
 again threatened by a falling wall, but she is saved when Son of Vulcan pu=
ts himself between her and the falling debris. But she is unhappy he didn't=
 just sweep her up in his arms out of harm's way. The section closes with L=
isa unhappy with Colosso and her hero Son of Vulcan and SoV convinced there=
's more to her than meets the eye. Dr.Kong threatens to do more mischief.=20
>=20
> "Green Goo" is a one-page text story about the sudden and dangerous appea=
rance of  a murky green ooze which rises from the ocean's waters and begins=
 to creep across the ground. After much hubbub and speculation about its or=
igins, and some significant damage a military officer suggests that great d=
itches be cut to allow the goo to follow the path of least resistance back =
to its origins in the sea. It works for now.=20
>=20
> Part 2 "Prisoners of Doctor Kong" begins with Son of Vulcan using a great=
 gladiator's net to throw the stone debris into space. He and Colosso then =
discover the metal footprint of Adam Klink and suspect sabotage. That night=
 Adam Klink appears and kidnaps Lisa and Son of Vulcan sees and follows. Bu=
t when Klink drops down a narrow hole in the ground, SoV is forced to chang=
e back to Johnny Mann to follow him down. This allows him to be captured by=
 Dr.Kong and he manacled to the wall and gagged.=20
>=20
> Kong then introduces his weapon, the Anima-Ray which he plans to use to a=
nimate great statues like the Statue of Liberty and the Sphinx and thus con=
quer the world. Kong leaves to start more trouble for the movie company and=
 leaves Johnny being guarded by the clumsy Klink. But Johnny is at last abl=
e to remove his gag and transforms into Son of Vulcan and with one blow dem=
olishes Adam Klink. He then follows Kong and is stunned at what he sees.=20
>=20
> Part 3 "The Trojan Horse Walks!" starts as Son of Vulcan is confronted by=
 the enormous Trojan Horse, built for the movie, and the behemoth is walkin=
g and promptly attacks Son of Vulcan. The battle rages, as SoV calls down a=
 mace.=20
>=20
> Ultimately he uses bow and a flaming arrow to begin a fire in the mouth o=
f the giant false horse but it makes the Horse even more wild and out of co=
ntrol. Son of Vulcan saves the director Colosso from being crushed under th=
e hooves, but then he realizes that Lisa Collins is captive inside the Troj=
an Horse.=20
>=20
> Rushing into the monster, he frees Lisa and the Horse at last burns to th=
e ground. Dr.Kong then animates a local stream of water and sends it agains=
t Son of Vulcan but with the water pursuing him wherever he went, SoV is ab=
le to turn it against Kong by flying right past him. Overwhelmed by the wat=
er, Kong's Anima-Ray is destroyed and the threat is at last over.=20
>=20
> The scene shifts several months later to the Hollywood premiere of the mo=
vie "Warrior Against Troy" starring Lisa Collins and Son of Vulcan and Lisa=
 Collins is interviewed by Johnny Mann. She is upset and throws a camera at=
 his head when he suggests the star of the movie is Son of Vulcan and not L=
isa herself, somehow Johnny interprets to mean Lisa might be interested rom=
antically in the Son of Vulcan.=20
>=20
> Dr.Kong plots further trouble from his jail cell in final panel.=20
>=20
> "The Strangers" follows several aliens as they arrive one by one across t=
he globe and are confronted by various creatures in various climates. They =
are startled by a snake, upset by a skunk, bothered by a hornet's nest, ass=
aulted by a snapping turtle, attacked by a bull, and swatted by a housewife=
 before deciding to leave the planet and head home with the words "Go!Man..=
.Go!!". The artwork is by Ernie Bache.=20
>=20
> This is the final issue of Charlton's Son of Vulcan series. With a costum=
e redesigned by fan Dave Cockrum last issue and a complete script by fan Ro=
y Thomas this issue, it's clear that Charlton is attempting to tap that bas=
e of dedicated comic book readers who have been kindled by the success of D=
C and Marvel especially. This script by Roy is a bit of a Hail Mary, a last=
-ditch attempt to generate some interest in Son of Vulcan, a hero who clear=
ly seems not to have found an audience. The stage is set for a change of ed=
itorial regimes as Pat Masulli will give way to Dick Giordano and the era o=
f "Action Heroes" looms.=20
>=20
> This particular story is very different from previous issues in that the =
gods are not present at all. Only Vulcan is referenced at all but he is not=
 seen. Of course there's much mythology present in the shape of the movie a=
bout the Trojan War, but the whole feel of this story is different. Ironica=
lly in this story about the most famous war in history, the anti-war theme =
which has been a part of most previous issues is ignored.=20
>=20
> One thing though that does alas come through is a change in personality f=
or Son of Vulcan. He sounds more like the perpetual adolescents that popula=
te early comics, the kind who are awkward around girls for no particular re=
ason. That's clearly an attempt to characterize Son of Vulcan, but it's a b=
it of a cliche and doesn't fit him I fear.=20
>=20
> "Adam Klink" is a clear reference to "Adam Link" the creation of Eando (E=
arl and Otto) Binder who appeared in science fiction stories and in comics =
tales. It's a clever spin, and the idea of a malfunctioning henchman robot =
is a neat one.=20
>=20
> All in all this is a sturdy enough comic, but it turns away from what mad=
e Son of Vulcan distinctive, perhaps with good reason. It's regrettable the=
 series ends with this story, but I imagine Dr.Kong is still in prison to t=
his day. What a wretched little man.
>=20
> With the next issue, the numbering will continue, but the title will chan=
ge to Thunderbolt, the action hero created by Pete Morisi. Looking at the h=
ouse ad above, it seems this was a last minute decision as the ad suggests =
that Thunderbolt will continue and so will Son of Vulcan. But apparently Th=
underbolt's series gets cancelled after a single issue and he takes over fo=
r Vulcan's favorite Son.=20
>=20
> Charlton apparently was able to get quick results from the sales of its b=
ooks and the company wasted no time in making moves to maximize sales and t=
he precious shelf space they battled for each and every day.=20
>=20
> There is some evidence that Roy Thomas and fan artists Biljo White and Sa=
m Grainger proposed a revised Son of Vulcan to Charlton Comics, but nothing=
 came of it. A single page of this proposal can be found in Bill Schelly's =
Fandom's Finest Comics. It showcases a sleeker Son of Vulcan, minus the lar=
ge helmet and the full armor.=20
>=20
> Later Son of Vulcan will get sold to DC Comics along with the other "Acti=
on Heroes" (how he got grouped with them is anyone's guess)and next time we=
 take a look at his brief time at DC Comics.=20
>=20
> More to come.=20
>=20
> Rip Off
>



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Sorry about that. I don't have anymore reports coming on Son of Vulcan. I s=
hould have removed that tag "More to come." but I forgot. When I first ran =
this series on my blog I did a report on DC's Son of Vulcan, but I'm not ru=
nning that here.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, lamlous <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> looking forward to next chapter.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > Son of Vulcan Volume 2, Number 50 is dated January, 1966. The editor in=
 chief and creator of Son of Vulcan is Pat Masulli. The artwork is supplied=
 once again by Bill Fraccio and Tony Tallarico. They also supplied the artw=
ork on the cover. The big news this time is that Roy Thomas, a neophyte wri=
ter from the fan community offers up the script, Roy "Not-Yet-The-Boy" Thom=
as begins his comics career here with this story in the final issue of Son =
of Vulcan.=20
> >=20
> > "The Second Trojan War" begins with Johnny Mann of World-Wide Correspon=
dents interviewing movie director A.J. Colosso who is making a movie about =
the Trojan War. Colosso regales Johnny with some background info, essential=
ly laying out some of the more famous details from Homer's epic saga. But t=
hen a scream from Lisa Collins, the starlet of the picture sends Colosso ru=
nning. Johnny takes that chance to transform into Son of Vulcan.=20
> >=20
> > He finds the actress threatened by runaway horses pulling a chariot, an=
d using his strength from the gods, the "Mightiest of Mortals" pulls horses=
, chariot and all into the sky and out of harm's way. Lisa is ecstatic and =
gives her hero a big kiss but then is frustrated when Colosso fails to get =
this moment on camera denying her the publicity. Then the actor playing Ach=
illes quits the movie. Son of Vulcan agrees to play the part and help Colos=
so out.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts to the secret lair of Dr.Kong, the arch-nemesis of Son=
 of Vulcan who is using his defective robot assistant "Adam Klink" to under=
mine the movie production for reasons that go unstated.=20
> >=20
> > Son of Vulcan starts his movie career but has it interrupted when Lisa =
is again threatened by a falling wall, but she is saved when Son of Vulcan =
puts himself between her and the falling debris. But she is unhappy he didn=
't just sweep her up in his arms out of harm's way. The section closes with=
 Lisa unhappy with Colosso and her hero Son of Vulcan and SoV convinced the=
re's more to her than meets the eye. Dr.Kong threatens to do more mischief.=
=20
> >=20
> > "Green Goo" is a one-page text story about the sudden and dangerous app=
earance of  a murky green ooze which rises from the ocean's waters and begi=
ns to creep across the ground. After much hubbub and speculation about its =
origins, and some significant damage a military officer suggests that great=
 ditches be cut to allow the goo to follow the path of least resistance bac=
k to its origins in the sea. It works for now.=20
> >=20
> > Part 2 "Prisoners of Doctor Kong" begins with Son of Vulcan using a gre=
at gladiator's net to throw the stone debris into space. He and Colosso the=
n discover the metal footprint of Adam Klink and suspect sabotage. That nig=
ht Adam Klink appears and kidnaps Lisa and Son of Vulcan sees and follows. =
But when Klink drops down a narrow hole in the ground, SoV is forced to cha=
nge back to Johnny Mann to follow him down. This allows him to be captured =
by Dr.Kong and he manacled to the wall and gagged.=20
> >=20
> > Kong then introduces his weapon, the Anima-Ray which he plans to use to=
 animate great statues like the Statue of Liberty and the Sphinx and thus c=
onquer the world. Kong leaves to start more trouble for the movie company a=
nd leaves Johnny being guarded by the clumsy Klink. But Johnny is at last a=
ble to remove his gag and transforms into Son of Vulcan and with one blow d=
emolishes Adam Klink. He then follows Kong and is stunned at what he sees.=
=20
> >=20
> > Part 3 "The Trojan Horse Walks!" starts as Son of Vulcan is confronted =
by the enormous Trojan Horse, built for the movie, and the behemoth is walk=
ing and promptly attacks Son of Vulcan. The battle rages, as SoV calls down=
 a mace.=20
> >=20
> > Ultimately he uses bow and a flaming arrow to begin a fire in the mouth=
 of the giant false horse but it makes the Horse even more wild and out of =
control. Son of Vulcan saves the director Colosso from being crushed under =
the hooves, but then he realizes that Lisa Collins is captive inside the Tr=
ojan Horse.=20
> >=20
> > Rushing into the monster, he frees Lisa and the Horse at last burns to =
the ground. Dr.Kong then animates a local stream of water and sends it agai=
nst Son of Vulcan but with the water pursuing him wherever he went, SoV is =
able to turn it against Kong by flying right past him. Overwhelmed by the w=
ater, Kong's Anima-Ray is destroyed and the threat is at last over.=20
> >=20
> > The scene shifts several months later to the Hollywood premiere of the =
movie "Warrior Against Troy" starring Lisa Collins and Son of Vulcan and Li=
sa Collins is interviewed by Johnny Mann. She is upset and throws a camera =
at his head when he suggests the star of the movie is Son of Vulcan and not=
 Lisa herself, somehow Johnny interprets to mean Lisa might be interested r=
omantically in the Son of Vulcan.=20
> >=20
> > Dr.Kong plots further trouble from his jail cell in final panel.=20
> >=20
> > "The Strangers" follows several aliens as they arrive one by one across=
 the globe and are confronted by various creatures in various climates. The=
y are startled by a snake, upset by a skunk, bothered by a hornet's nest, a=
ssaulted by a snapping turtle, attacked by a bull, and swatted by a housewi=
fe before deciding to leave the planet and head home with the words "Go!Man=
...Go!!". The artwork is by Ernie Bache.=20
> >=20
> > This is the final issue of Charlton's Son of Vulcan series. With a cost=
ume redesigned by fan Dave Cockrum last issue and a complete script by fan =
Roy Thomas this issue, it's clear that Charlton is attempting to tap that b=
ase of dedicated comic book readers who have been kindled by the success of=
 DC and Marvel especially. This script by Roy is a bit of a Hail Mary, a la=
st-ditch attempt to generate some interest in Son of Vulcan, a hero who cle=
arly seems not to have found an audience. The stage is set for a change of =
editorial regimes as Pat Masulli will give way to Dick Giordano and the era=
 of "Action Heroes" looms.=20
> >=20
> > This particular story is very different from previous issues in that th=
e gods are not present at all. Only Vulcan is referenced at all but he is n=
ot seen. Of course there's much mythology present in the shape of the movie=
 about the Trojan War, but the whole feel of this story is different. Ironi=
cally in this story about the most famous war in history, the anti-war them=
e which has been a part of most previous issues is ignored.=20
> >=20
> > One thing though that does alas come through is a change in personality=
 for Son of Vulcan. He sounds more like the perpetual adolescents that popu=
late early comics, the kind who are awkward around girls for no particular =
reason. That's clearly an attempt to characterize Son of Vulcan, but it's a=
 bit of a cliche and doesn't fit him I fear.=20
> >=20
> > "Adam Klink" is a clear reference to "Adam Link" the creation of Eando =
(Earl and Otto) Binder who appeared in science fiction stories and in comic=
s tales. It's a clever spin, and the idea of a malfunctioning henchman robo=
t is a neat one.=20
> >=20
> > All in all this is a sturdy enough comic, but it turns away from what m=
ade Son of Vulcan distinctive, perhaps with good reason. It's regrettable t=
he series ends with this story, but I imagine Dr.Kong is still in prison to=
 this day. What a wretched little man.
> >=20
> > With the next issue, the numbering will continue, but the title will ch=
ange to Thunderbolt, the action hero created by Pete Morisi. Looking at the=
 house ad above, it seems this was a last minute decision as the ad suggest=
s that Thunderbolt will continue and so will Son of Vulcan. But apparently =
Thunderbolt's series gets cancelled after a single issue and he takes over =
for Vulcan's favorite Son.=20
> >=20
> > Charlton apparently was able to get quick results from the sales of its=
 books and the company wasted no time in making moves to maximize sales and=
 the precious shelf space they battled for each and every day.=20
> >=20
> > There is some evidence that Roy Thomas and fan artists Biljo White and =
Sam Grainger proposed a revised Son of Vulcan to Charlton Comics, but nothi=
ng came of it. A single page of this proposal can be found in Bill Schelly'=
s Fandom's Finest Comics. It showcases a sleeker Son of Vulcan, minus the l=
arge helmet and the full armor.=20
> >=20
> > Later Son of Vulcan will get sold to DC Comics along with the other "Ac=
tion Heroes" (how he got grouped with them is anyone's guess)and next time =
we take a look at his brief time at DC Comics.=20
> >=20
> > More to come.=20
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at charlton comics Fran matera died a week tomorrow


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Matera drew a more than a few comics for Charlton, but of course was perhap=
s more famous for his comic strip work. I liked his Caniff-like artwork, it=
 has a real zest to it.=20

Above is a romance cover credited to Matera.=20

Rip Off

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 Quite a few of these artists are leaving us just like ww 2 veterens. R.I.P=
.

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> Matera drew a more than a few comics for Charlton, but of course was perh=
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> Above is a romance cover credited to Matera.=20
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> > at charlton comics Fran matera died a week tomorrow
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>



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Hi all! CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #7 is now shipping. The new issue is FULL COLOR,=
 cover to cover, and features a long, informal conversation with Charlton e=
ditor and "Popeye" cartoonist GEORGE WILDMAN, with fellow "Popeye" and "Kat=
zenjammer Kids" cartoonist HY EISMAN sitting in. There are also memoirs of =
the late DICK GIORDANO by comics writer PAUL KUPPERBERG and comics historia=
n RON FRANTZ. Rounding out the issue are more of NICOLA CUTI's "Weird Kids"=
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l reader's departments. The front cover is by DONNIE PITCHFORD, and the bac=
k cover is a montage of choice Giordano Charlton covers from the 1950s and =
`60s.
Spotlight is no longer distributed through Diamond to comics shops so must =
be ordered directly from me. For details, please visit www.charltonspotligh=
t.net. Hope to see you there!

Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.net



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you ought do a article on the charlon artist who passed away two weeks ago =
fran matera

=20

________________________________
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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Spotlight #7 now available
=20=20

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=C2=A0=20=20
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Hi all! CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #7 is now shipping. The new issue is FULL COLOR,=
 cover to cover, and features a long, informal conversation with Charlton e=
ditor and "Popeye" cartoonist GEORGE WILDMAN, with fellow "Popeye" and "Kat=
zenjammer Kids" cartoonist HY EISMAN sitting in. There are also memoirs of =
the late DICK GIORDANO by comics writer PAUL KUPPERBERG and comics historia=
n RON FRANTZ. Rounding out the issue are more of NICOLA CUTI's "Weird Kids"=
 cartoons, the wrap-up of the Charlton year-by-year checklist, and the usua=
l reader's departments. The front cover is by DONNIE PITCHFORD, and the bac=
k cover is a montage of choice Giordano Charlton covers from the 1950s and =
`60s.
Spotlight is no longer distributed through Diamond to comics shops so must =
be ordered directly from me. For details, please visit www.charltonspotligh=
t.net. Hope to see you there!

Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.net

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That's a great idea. I know Jim Amash has covered him some in AE in the pas=
t, but something from a Charlton perspective would be great. Problem is it'=
s damn hard to get solid info about 1950s Charlton artists by now, 60 years=
 on. I probably have most of Matera's published Charlton western work, Suns=
et Carson and Cowboy Western Comics, etc., but not much more.

Currently working on some Lou Morales and Dennis Laughen info for future fe=
atures. --Two prime examples of difficulty and obscurity!=20

Mike A.

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> you ought do a article on the charlon artist who passed away two weeks ag=
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Very cool Mike..btw, it's Laugen ( no "H")  - Geoff Laugen     [:)]


--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <charspot01@...>
wrote:
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> That's a great idea. I know Jim Amash has covered him some in AE in
the past, but something from a Charlton perspective would be great.
Problem is it's damn hard to get solid info about 1950s Charlton artists
by now, 60 years on. I probably have most of Matera's published Charlton
western work, Sunset Carson and Cowboy Western Comics, etc., but not
much more.
>
> Currently working on some Lou Morales and Dennis Laughen info for
future features. --Two prime examples of difficulty and obscurity!
>
> Mike A.
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, G B gideonfl@ wrote:
> >
> > you ought do a article on the charlon artist who passed away two
weeks ago fran matera
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Michael charspot01@
> > To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:25 PM
> > Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Charlton Spotlight #7 now available
> >
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> >
> > =C2
> >
> > Hi all! CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #7 is now shipping. The new issue is FULL
COLOR, cover to cover, and features a long, informal conversation with
Charlton editor and "Popeye" cartoonist GEORGE WILDMAN, with fellow
"Popeye" and "Katzenjammer Kids" cartoonist HY EISMAN sitting in. There
are also memoirs of the late DICK GIORDANO by comics writer PAUL
KUPPERBERG and comics historian RON FRANTZ. Rounding out the issue are
more of NICOLA CUTI's "Weird Kids" cartoons, the wrap-up of the Charlton
year-by-year checklist, and the usual reader's departments. The front
cover is by DONNIE PITCHFORD, and the back cover is a montage of choice
Giordano Charlton covers from the 1950s and `60s.
> > Spotlight is no longer distributed through Diamond to comics shops
so must be ordered directly from me. For details, please visit
www.charltonspotlight.net. Hope to see you there!
> >
> > Michael Ambrose
> > Charlton Spotlight
> > Argo Press
> > P.O. Box 4201
> > Austin, TX 78765-4201
> > charspot01@
> > www.charltonspotlight.net
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Subject: Thunderbolt's Dynamite Return!
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It looks like Pete Morisi's Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt is returning to the c=
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http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/?p=3D43486

Rip Off


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I'll definitely be giving this one a look when it comes out.

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There is also some discussion about this on the CBR boards (Comic Book Reso=
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xt month, There are goinng to be 3 different covers, I just may have to get=
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I'll definitely be giving this one a look when it comes out.

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From: "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: New Thunderbolt By PAM!
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Another article indicated that Pete Morisi's long-awaited origin story (don=
e for DC I think) will see publication in the debut issue. I am eager to se=
e it.=20

http://majorspoilers.com/2012/06/13/dynamite-brings-back-peter-canon-thunde=
rbolt/

Rip Off


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I will probably buy the comic just for the unpublished PAM work, but I  
think the new costume is hideous.

I am glad Morisi's family will finally be making some money off the  
character, although I very sorry he will not be appearing in Grant  
Morrison's Multiversity.

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Rip, thanks for getting the word started on the new T-Bolt series from Dyna=
mite. I've been in correspondence with Val Morisi (Pete's middle son) over =
the past year or so about this but was under a "gag order" not to leak the =
news till everything was finalized. Val wrote me two days ago with the foll=
owing, some of which is now redundant with the recent posts here:

******************

Mike,

The gag has been lifted!

Dynamite Entertainment will producing a new Thunderbolt series.  Along with=
 the first installment, the first issue (48 pages) will also include the un=
published Thunderbolt origin from 1987.....in color.  Some variant covers m=
ight include some of my Dad's work while most of the covers will be done by=
 Alex Ross, John Cassaday, Jae Lee and a few surprises.

I can't thank you enough for all your efforts and sound advice.  To date Ni=
ck Barrucci (President of Dynamite Entertainment) has been true to everythi=
ng he's promised.  I'm excited to see the finished product and hope it's re=
ceived well.

Here's some links to the announcement:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=3Darticle&id=3D39159

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/13/before-ozymandias-dynamite-signs-up-=
peter-cannon-thunderbolt/

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/06/13/dynamite-has-their-own-before-watchmen=
-event-dc-didnt-buy-_all_-the-charlton-characters/


Spread the news.....I'll keep you posted as things develop,

Val

******************

Of course not everyone is going to be happy with the way the new creative t=
eam develops T-Bolt. Some wouldn't be satisfied unless it were exactly the =
same as it was when Pete was doing it back in the '60s at Charlton. For mys=
elf I'm reserving judgment till I see the first issue, but I can't help but=
 be happy that a classic Charlton character is being revived after so long =
a hiatus, and that the original creator's family is involved with the reviv=
al and has approved it.

So as Val says, spread the news!

Mike A.


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www.firstcomicsnews.com has reported on this event, also...
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--- On Fri, 6/15/12, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:


From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [charlton-l] T-Bolt returns!
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, June 15, 2012, 10:40 AM



=C2=A0=20



I've been in correspondence with Val Morisi (Pete's middle son) over the pa=
st year or so about this but was under a "gag order" not to leak the news t=
ill everything was finalized. Val wrote me two days ago with the following:

******************

Mike,

The gag has been lifted!

Dynamite Entertainment will producing a new Thunderbolt series. Along with =
the first installment, the first issue (48 pages) will also include the unp=
ublished Thunderbolt origin from 1987.....in color. Some variant covers mig=
ht include some of my Dad's work while most of the covers will be done by A=
lex Ross, John Cassaday, Jae Lee and a few surprises.

I can't thank you enough for all your efforts and sound advice. To date Nic=
k Barrucci (President of Dynamite Entertainment) has been true to everythin=
g he's promised. I'm excited to see the finished product and hope it's rece=
ived well.

Here's some links to the announcement:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=3Darticle&id=3D39159

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/13/before-ozymandias-dynamite-signs-up-=
peter-cannon-thunderbolt/

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/06/13/dynamite-has-their-own-before-watchmen=
-event-dc-didnt-buy-_all_-the-charlton-characters/

Spread the news.....I'll keep you posted as things develop,

Val

******************

I'm very happy that a classic Charlton character is being revived after so =
long a hiatus, and that the original creator's family is involved with the =
revival and has approved it.

So as Val says, spread the news!

Mike A.








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Thanks for the info! I'll definitely be getting this first issue, just for =
the PAM story. If the new material hooks me, I'll make this a regular buy.


Bruce Buchanan
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Another article indicated that Pete Morisi's long-awaited origin story (don=
e for DC I think) will see publication in the debut issue. I am eager to se=
e it.=20

http://majorspoilers.com/2012/06/13/dynamite-brings-back-peter-canon-thunde=
rbolt/

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Subject: Re: New Thunderbolt By PAM!
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I printed two pages from that unpublished DC story in Spotlight #4, the spe=
cial Pete Morisi issue, way back in 2005. I think Jon Cooke printed a coupl=
e pages also in one of his Charlton CBA issues in 2001. The whole 19-page s=
tory has never appeared in print, and never in finished form in color, so t=
he first ish of the new T-bolt comic is gonna be a must-have for every Char=
lton fan. I know I'll be buying multiples!

Mike A.

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.> wrote:
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> Thanks for the info! I'll definitely be getting this first issue, just fo=
r the PAM story. If the new material hooks me, I'll make this a regular buy=
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one for DC I think) will see publication in the debut issue. I am eager to =
see it.=20
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> http://majorspoilers.com/2012/06/13/dynamite-brings-back-peter-canon-thun=
derbolt/
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From: "Rip Jagger" <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Roger Slifer Badly Injured!
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The news has broken that CPL Gang alumnus Roger Slifer has been hospitalize=
d after a hit and run accident. Below is a link with more detials.=20

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/lobo-co-creator-roger-slifer-i=
n-critical-condition-after-hit-and-run/

Prayers go to Mr.Slifer and his family.=20

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Terrible news. :( Hopefully he'll be ok.


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Subject: Alex Ross Thunderbolt Designs!
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Here's a link to get a glimpse of what Alex Ross designed up for the upcomi=
ng T-Bolt revival from Dynamite Comics.=20

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/28/alex-ross-designs-for-pete-cannon-th=
underbolt/

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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Subject: PAM splash page--where published?
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Val Morisi recently sent me a splash page (copied from a Heritage auction) =
of a Charlton story his dad did and was wondering where it had appeared. It=
 looks familiar to me but I can't place it. I did the usual GCD search, wit=
h no results. Heritage had inaccurately described the page as from GHOST MA=
NOR #1 (2nd series); the host, Mortimer Tishin, belonged to BEYOND THE GRAV=
E, but I can't find the story in any issue of that title. Anybody got any n=
otions about it? Could it be unpublished?

The page is in the Files section under "nemea.jpg", and the story is titled=
 "The Time Before" with job #D6966.

Here's what Val said about it:

"I came across this image of a splash page sold on Heritage Auctions a few =
years ago.  I recognized the girl, "Nemea", from an original (girl only) pi=
ece by my father which now hangs in my brother Russ's living room.  I'm gue=
ssing my father was working on the girl's image first and then he swiped it=
 for the splash page."

Any help appreciated!

Mike A.


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Folks,
=C2=A0
Michael Ambrose, self-publisher of the magazine Charlton Spotlight, which e=
xamines the hsitory of the late Charlton Comics, sent the post below to two=
 different Charlton Comics yahoo group Lists, making an enquiry on behalf o=
f a relative of the late Pete Morisi, (who always in the past, in numerous=
=C2=A0Charlton Comics, signed himself as 'PAM') --- the relative in questio=
n who would like to know the answer as to where the attached splash page wa=
s published, is Val Morisi.
=C2=A0
I've attached the Charlton splash page in question to this post.=20
=C2=A0
I realize that Charlton Comics questions are probably, in general, outside =
the purview of the combined knowledge of the numerous comics historians for=
 the timely_altas_comics group List, as well as my own group List, canadian=
 comics, yet another yahoo group List.
=C2=A0
On the other hand, at the same time, I felt that, if anyone could solve thi=
s question, the answer might very possibly be here, at the timely_atlas_gro=
up List...
=C2=A0
And so, I am=C2=A0nonetheless hoping that someone here, with your formidabl=
e comics history combined experiences, can help Michael Ambrose and Val Mor=
isi, to place what Charlton comics (a) title as well as (b) issue number th=
is particular Pete Morisi Charlton splash page came from...
=C2=A0
Can anyone help Michael Ambrose and Val Morisi with the answer to this ques=
tion?
Besides, I'd really like to know myself!
=C2=A0
And, finally, a question for Michael Ambrose himself: Mike, what is the web=
site address, where I can go on the net, in order to order back issues of C=
harlton Spotlight? As, I don't yet have at least the last issue of your exc=
ellent Charlton spotlight magazine, and possibly not the last two issues, a=
s yet...
=C2=A0
By the way, is Charlton Spotlight still orderable through the Previews/-Dia=
mond catalogue?
=C2=A0
This said,=C2=A0I'd much rather order from you, directly.
=C2=A0
Mike, if anyone DOES find the answer to Val Morisi's question regarding the=
 attached Charlton splash page here, I will report the answer back to you!
=C2=A0
Folks, now please kindly see the attached Charlton Comics query, below, and=
 please study the Charlton splash page by Pete Morisi....
=C2=A0
Thanks, folks!
=C2=A0
Very Best Wishes,
=C2=A0
Phil Latter
=C2=A0
Cheers!

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

From: Michael <charspot01@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [charlton-l] PAM splash page--where published?
To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 12:33 PM=C2=A0=20






Val Morisi recently sent me a splash page (copied from a Heritage auction) =
of a Charlton story his dad did and was wondering where it had appeared. It=
 looks familiar to me but I can't place it. I did the usual GCD search, wit=
h no results. Heritage had inaccurately described the page as from GHOST MA=
NOR #1 (2nd series); the host, Mortimer Tishin, belonged to BEYOND THE GRAV=
E, but I can't find the story in any issue of that title. Anybody got any n=
otions about it? Could it be unpublished?

The page is in the Files section under "nemea.jpg", and the story is titled=
 "The Time Before" with job #D6966.

Here's what Val said about it:

"I came across this image of a splash page sold on Heritage Auctions a few =
years ago. I recognized the girl, "Nemea", from an original (girl only) pie=
ce by my father which now hangs in my brother Russ's living room. I'm guess=
ing my father was working on the girl's image first and then he swiped it f=
or the splash page."

Any help appreciated!

Mike Ambrose.






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I wonder if anyone here might be able to answer Jon Knutson's question at=
=A0http://randomactsofgeekery.blogspot.com/2009/10/halloween-countdown-orig=
inal-horror_14.html
"Next, we have page 11 from an unidentified Charlton horror book, art by Ja=
ck Abel!"

I tried some searches at the GCD, but they didn't help:
Advanced search for Stories with search method 'Contains', behavior 'AND al=
l fields' and the search terms:
pub_name: Charlton=A0
pencils: Abel=A0

Mr. Blanque Ghostly Haunts (1971 series) #28=A0
Winnie the Witch / comic story / 8 pages December 1972

The Doll Midnight Tales (1972 series) #1
comic story / 6 pages December 1972

Like Father, Like Son Haunted (1971 series) #10
comic story / 8 pages January 1973

The Nonbeliever Ghostly Tales (1966 series) #103
Mr. Dedd / comic story / 8 pages April 1973

Sewer Patrol Ghostly Haunts (1971 series) #31=A0
Winnie the Witch / comic story / 8 pages April 1973

The Hitchhiker!! Haunted (1971 series) #14
comic story / 8 pages September 1973

The Voodoo Queen Ghost Manor (1971 series) #15
Mr. Bones / comic story / 7 pages October 1973

The Teddy Bear Haunted (1971 series) #15
comic story / 8 pages November 1973

Advanced search for Stories with search method 'Contains', behavior 'AND al=
l fields' and the search terms:
title: mummy=A0
pub_name: Charlton=A0

The Mummy's Curse The Thing (1952 series) #12=A0
comic story / 5 pages February 1954
(John Belfi (signed))

The Mummy Vanishes Tales of the Mysterious Traveler (1956 series) #1
comic story / 7 pages August 1956=A0
(?)

Night of the Mummy Ghostly Tales (1966 series) #114
comic story / 6 pages April 1975
(SteveDitko (signed))=A0
=A0
Thanks,
Darci

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Subject: Scary Monsters Magazine - Charlton Stuff!
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Just a heads up for those who might be interested. Scary Monsters Magazine =
runs a feature on Konga from Charlton (along with a ton of stuff on the mov=
ie) and includes a review and a  full color cover gallery (thumbnails) in i=
ts current issue ( issue 84).=20

They did a feature on Gorgo the previous issue (83), but I missed that one,=
 so I don't know how complete it was. If it matches the Konga material it's=
 an issue I must get hold of.=20

Rip Off


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83 has a cover gallery like 84 and ten pages on the Charlton Gorgo comic

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Thanks for the additional info. I've gotta' order this. I like Scary Monste=
rs okay anyway, but this issue is the best I've bought in a long long time.=
 The Gorgo issue I missed looks pretty good too.=20

Rip Off

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Well this is a treat. Those mid-60's Charlton Tarzan tales by Joe Gill and =
Sam Glanzman among others are getting reprinted early in 2013. I've been lu=
cky enough to dig up all four issues (too a while to do actually) but it'll=
 be nice to have them in a highly readable volume as my copies are a bit ro=
ugh to read too much.=20

Here's the official solicitation.=20


"THE UNAUTHORIZED TARZAN HC & LTD. ED. HC
Joe Gill (W), Sam J. Glanzman (P/I), Bill Montes (P), and Ernie Bache (I)

A classic run of Tarzan comics, reprinted for the first time! In the 1960s,=
 believing Tarzan to have fallen into the public domain, Charlton Comics en=
listed Joe Gill (Flash Gordon, House of Mystery) and Sam Glanzman (Hercules=
, Our Army at War) to create a new comics version of the Lord of the Jungle=
. Only four issues were produced before Charlton was forced to end the seri=
es, and much of the original print runs were destroyed. Collects Charlton's=
 Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1=E2=80"#4. Includes never-before-seen Tarzan comi=
c strips by Glanzman and historical essays by Roger Broughton!

112 pages, $29.99 (limited edition, signed, $59.99), in stores on March 20.=
"=20


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Rip,
Those must have been some interesting negotiations between Dark Horse and t=
he Burroughs estate!
Thanks,
Darci


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 From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=20
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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Unauthorized Tarzan!
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=C2=A0=20
Well this is a treat. Those mid-60's Charlton Tarzan tales by Joe Gill and =
Sam Glanzman among others are getting reprinted early in 2013. I've been lu=
cky enough to dig up all four issues (took a while to do actually) but it'l=
l be nice to have them in a highly readable volume as my copies are a bit r=
ough to read too much.=20

Here's the official solicitation.=20

"THE UNAUTHORIZED TARZAN HC & LTD. ED. HC
Joe Gill (W), Sam J. Glanzman (P/I), Bill Montes (P), and Ernie Bache (I)

A classic run of Tarzan comics, reprinted for the first time! In the 1960s,=
 believing Tarzan to have fallen into the public domain, Charlton Comics en=
listed Joe Gill (Flash Gordon, House of Mystery) and Sam Glanzman (Hercules=
, Our Army at War) to create a new comics version of the Lord of the Jungle=
. Only four issues were produced before Charlton was forced to end the seri=
es, and much of the original print runs were destroyed. Collects Charlton's=
 Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1=C3=A2=E2=82=AC"#4. Includes never-before-seen Ta=
rzan comic strips by Glanzman and historical essays by Roger Broughton!

112 pages, $29.99 (limited edition, signed, $59.99), in stores on March 20.=
"=20


=20

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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I suspect the ability to glean some revenue from these vintage stories afte=
r all these decades was irresistible to the Burroughs Estate. For Tarzan fa=
ns it puts back into print some really outstanding stuff.=20

Rip Off

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Darci <darci386@...> wrote:
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> Rip,
> Those must have been some interesting negotiations between Dark Horse and=
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> Darci
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> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The Unauthorized Tarzan!
>=20=20
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d Sam Glanzman among others are getting reprinted early in 2013. I've been =
lucky enough to dig up all four issues (took a while to do actually) but it=
'll be nice to have them in a highly readable volume as my copies are a bit=
 rough to read too much.=20
>=20
> Here's the official solicitation.=20
>=20
> "THE UNAUTHORIZED TARZAN HC & LTD. ED. HC
> Joe Gill (W), Sam J. Glanzman (P/I), Bill Montes (P), and Ernie Bache (I)
>=20
> A classic run of Tarzan comics, reprinted for the first time! In the 1960=
s, believing Tarzan to have fallen into the public domain, Charlton Comics =
enlisted Joe Gill (Flash Gordon, House of Mystery) and Sam Glanzman (Hercul=
es, Our Army at War) to create a new comics version of the Lord of the Jung=
le. Only four issues were produced before Charlton was forced to end the se=
ries, and much of the original print runs were destroyed. Collects Charlton=
's Jungle Tales of Tarzan #1=C3=A2=E2=82=AC"#4. Includes never-before-seen =
Tarzan comic strips by Glanzman and historical essays by Roger Broughton!
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Subject: Dikto Monsters From IDW!
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Here's some Charlton goodness to look out for early next year. IDW and Yoe =
Books are putting out Ditko's monster stuff, specifically his  Gorgo. I've =
read that Konga is not far behind. Here's the solicitation:



San, Diego, CA (October 30, 2012) =96 This January, the world is set to com=
e under vicious attack. As ocean waters tremble and churn, undersea volcano=
es violently erupt, and the giant lizard monster Gorgo rises once again to =
terrorize a woefully unprepared populace!

IDW Publishing and Yoe Books are thrilled to announce DITKO MONSTERS: GORGO=
! The first in a series, to be followed by DITKO MONSTERS: KONGA!, this vol=
ume collects the complete run of Ditko's Gorgo: over 200 pages of explosive=
, destructive Gorgo action. This hardcover volume is absolutely packed with=
 towering monster art by the inimitable comics legend STEVE DITKO!

Drawn at the same time Ditko was doing landmark work on Spider-Man and Doct=
or Strange, Gorgo was ripped from the reels of its cinematic origins and th=
rust into the pulpy comics spotlight. Seemingly unstoppable, Gorgo takes al=
l comers as he stomps across the globe in adventures penned by fan-favorite=
 writer Joe Gill with book design and an introduction by Eisner Award-winne=
r, Craig Yoe.


"This is the third Ditko book I've had the great pleasure to produce, the f=
irst two were The Art of Ditko and The Creativity of Ditko," says Yoe. "As =
proud of I am of those, this one may be the most F-U-N fun yet, because it'=
s all about a ginormous, scaly-skinned, dinosaur-like, anti-social, city-sm=
ashing MONSTER. Ditko obviously had a blast doing these mad-cool comics, sm=
ashingly putting the "GO" in Gorgo!"

A bona fide art legend, a vicious monster laying waste to highly populated =
urban areas, and an oversized, full-color hardback? Ladies and gentlemonste=
rs, DITKO MONSTERS: GORGO! has it all!

DITKO MONSTERS: GORGO! (FC, 224 pages, $34.99) is in stores 1/30/13.
Diamond code: NOV120414

Rip Off



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I am curious about the short lived hero, Mercury Man.  It is my understandi=
ng that DC didn't purchase the character.  Did anyone?

Also, who is the creator for this hero?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.


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Interestingly, I was just looking this info up earlier today:

http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/2010/02/mercury-man.html


http://www.armagideon-time.com/?p=3D7578



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--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. MidNite"  wrote:
>
> I am curious about the short lived hero, Mercury Man.  It is my understan=
ding that DC didn't purchase the character.  Did anyone?
>=20

Yes, but I don't recall who.  I was emailing with Robin Snyder, who oversaw=
 the sales of the Charlton properties after their demise.  I do recall him =
mentioned that rights to the MM went to someone.  I DO know that it was nei=
ther DC nor Roger Broughton (who pretty much bought up the rights of everyt=
hing else).

> Also, who is the creator for this hero?
>=20

No idea.  The GCD has no info on the scripter of the 2 MM stories.  Each wa=
s done by a different artist.  Rocco Mastroserio did the first one, and Cha=
rles Nicholas & Sal Trapani did the second.

> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>

What is interesting is that he appeared in "Space Adventures" (#44 & 45), w=
hich is where Captain Atom was appearing.  The last Captain Atom story appe=
ared in #42.  There would be no new Captain Atom material for about 4 years=
 when they launched the Captain Atom title.  So was Mercury Man created as =
a replacement for Captain Atom?  Much of his powers were similar, plus he w=
as fighting the commies like CA was.


Michael Brown


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Thanks to both of you guys.  I was curious and couldn't find very much onli=
ne.

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> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. MidNite"  wrote:
> >
> > I am curious about the short lived hero, Mercury Man.  It is my underst=
anding that DC didn't purchase the character.  Did anyone?
> >=20
>=20
> Yes, but I don't recall who.  I was emailing with Robin Snyder, who overs=
aw the sales of the Charlton properties after their demise.  I do recall hi=
m mentioned that rights to the MM went to someone.  I DO know that it was n=
either DC nor Roger Broughton (who pretty much bought up the rights of ever=
ything else).
>=20
> > Also, who is the creator for this hero?
> >=20
>=20
> No idea.  The GCD has no info on the scripter of the 2 MM stories.  Each =
was done by a different artist.  Rocco Mastroserio did the first one, and C=
harles Nicholas & Sal Trapani did the second.
>=20
> > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>=20
> What is interesting is that he appeared in "Space Adventures" (#44 & 45),=
 which is where Captain Atom was appearing.  The last Captain Atom story ap=
peared in #42.  There would be no new Captain Atom material for about 4 yea=
rs when they launched the Captain Atom title.  So was Mercury Man created a=
s a replacement for Captain Atom?  Much of his powers were similar, plus he=
 was fighting the commies like CA was.
>=20
>=20
> Michael Brown
>



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Hopefully someone will still come up with IDs for the writer and the owner.
Thanks,
Darci




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To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:14 AM
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Mercury Man
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=C2=A0=20
Thanks to both of you guys.  I was curious and couldn't find very much onli=
ne.

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "MichaelB"  wrote:
>
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. MidNite"  wrote:
> >
> > I am curious about the short lived hero, Mercury Man.  It is my underst=
anding that DC didn't purchase the character.  Did anyone?
> >=20
>=20
> Yes, but I don't recall who.  I was emailing with Robin Snyder, who overs=
aw the sales of the Charlton properties after their demise.  I do recall hi=
m mentioned that rights to the MM went to someone.  I DO know that it was n=
either DC nor Roger Broughton (who pretty much bought up the rights of ever=
ything else).
>=20
> > Also, who is the creator for this hero?
> >=20
>=20
> No idea.  The GCD has no info on the scripter of the 2 MM stories.  Each =
was done by a different artist.  Rocco Mastroserio did the first one, and C=
harles Nicholas & Sal Trapani did the second.
>=20
> > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>=20
> What is interesting is that he appeared in "Space Adventures" (#44 & 45),=
 which is where Captain Atom was appearing.  The last Captain Atom story ap=
peared in #42.  There would be no new Captain Atom material for about 4 yea=
rs when they launched the Captain Atom title.  So was Mercury Man created a=
s a replacement for Captain Atom?  Much of his powers were similar, plus he=
 was fighting the commies like CA was.
>=20
>=20
> Michael Brown
>


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And now I have this perverse nagging desire to have a custom action figure =
made of this character.=20=20

--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Darci <darci386@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Mercury Man
> To: "CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com" <CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 3:20 PM
> Hopefully someone will still come up
> with IDs for the writer and the owner.
> Thanks,
> Darci
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ________________________________
>  From: Dr. MidNite <spaceranger3000@yahoo.com>
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:14 AM
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Mercury Man
>=20=20
>=20
> =A0=20
> Thanks to both of you guys.=A0 I was curious and couldn't
> find very much online.
>=20
> --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com,
> "MichaelB"=A0 wrote:
> >
> > --- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com,
> "Dr. MidNite"=A0 wrote:
> > >
> > > I am curious about the short lived hero, Mercury
> Man.=A0 It is my understanding that DC didn't purchase
> the character.=A0 Did anyone?
> > >=20
> >=20
> > Yes, but I don't recall who.=A0 I was emailing with
> Robin Snyder, who oversaw the sales of the Charlton
> properties after their demise.=A0 I do recall him
> mentioned that rights to the MM went to someone.=A0 I DO
> know that it was neither DC nor Roger Broughton (who pretty
> much bought up the rights of everything else).
> >=20
> > > Also, who is the creator for this hero?
> > >=20
> >=20
> > No idea.=A0 The GCD has no info on the scripter of
> the 2 MM stories.=A0 Each was done by a different
> artist.=A0 Rocco Mastroserio did the first one, and
> Charles Nicholas & Sal Trapani did the second.
> >=20
> > > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> >=20
> > What is interesting is that he appeared in "Space
> Adventures" (#44 & 45), which is where Captain Atom was
> appearing.=A0 The last Captain Atom story appeared in
> #42.=A0 There would be no new Captain Atom material for
> about 4 years when they launched the Captain Atom
> title.=A0 So was Mercury Man created as a replacement for
> Captain Atom?=A0 Much of his powers were similar, plus he
> was fighting the commies like CA was.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Michael Brown
> >
>=20
>=20
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I want a 3D printer!!!! Action figures of all the Golden and Silver age characters

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You are talking some serious work and expenses there.
Even if you start with a base human 3D model, the costume will have to be i=
ncised on it in a modeling program so that it will show up on the "print." =
Plus the end "product" will probably have to be lightly sanded and painted.=
 (No colors in 3D printing.)
A group I'm on produced some 3d printed spaceship models. At cost, from a p=
rinting service, they ran $15 or $20 for something less than the size of yo=
ur thumb.
And the above only happened because a group member's day job happened to in=
volve 3D prototyping. I have no idea how much time he spent turning sketche=
s and line drawings into a 3D model, but it was not trivial, believe me.
Maybe a couple more "generations" of the technology will make this sort of =
thing easier.


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Subject: [CharltonBullseye] Re: Mercury Man
To: "CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com" <CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 4:55 AM
















=A0



=20=20


=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
      I want a 3D printer!!!! Action figures of all the Golden and Silver a=
ge characters






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Big Bang Theory made it look so easy :)

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http://www.emprecor.com/buov/kkc/mo/zwg/hkw 



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Does anyone know how I can get a copy of this Nick Cuti-Joe Staton classic =
collection? I ordered one ages ago from the I guess defunct First Comics an=
d never got it. That's water under the bridge, but I'd still like to get ho=
ld of one. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

Dean=20


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Earlier this week, Joe Staton says on Facebook that you can only buy it
direct from him or First at conventions.
Never distributed otherwise.


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>
>
> Does anyone know how I can get a copy of this Nick Cuti-Joe Staton classi=
c
> collection? I ordered one ages ago from the I guess defunct First Comics
> and never got it. That's water under the bridge, but I'd still like to ge=
t
> hold of one. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dean
>
>=20=20
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Thanks for that. I normally fear the Facebook, but I'll brave it and try to=
 get into contact with him. Hopefully I can get my mitts on this book. Love=
 to see it.=20

Dean

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> Earlier this week, Joe Staton says on Facebook that you can only buy it
> direct from him or First at conventions.
> Never distributed otherwise.
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> > **
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how I can get a copy of this Nick Cuti-Joe Staton clas=
sic
> > collection? I ordered one ages ago from the I guess defunct First Comic=
s
> > and never got it. That's water under the bridge, but I'd still like to =
get
> > hold of one. Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dean
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Does anyone happen to know who created the original logos for The Many Ghos=
ts of Dr.Graves and Ghostly Tales?

I like GT, but the TMGoDG logo is an absolute fave.

Rip





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Subject: The E-Man Cometh!
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Yesterday was one of the more interesting and memorable days in my comic bo=
ok collecting life. Part of what made yesterday such a sweet day was the ar=
rival in the daily post (bless the United Postal Service and Saturday deliv=
ery) of a spanking brand new edition of "E-Man The Early Years" from First =
Comics.

When this volume was first announced two years ago, I immediately ordered a=
 copy. I never got it. For whatever reason it never arrived and my attempts=
 to contact First Comics failed to connect. After a time, I wrote it all up=
 to a whopping big case of "Caveat Emptor" and went on with my life. But I =
still yearned for a copy of this seemingly quite handsome volume which coll=
ected up the Charlton E-Man stories by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton. I'd read=
 raves about this volume, seen it in pictures online and craved one of my v=
ery own. A few months ago I posted on a few Charlton related websites my de=
sire and asked for advice on how to best get hold of a copy, assuming  all =
along I'd have to pay again. I was willing and downright eager if it meant =
getting a copy of this book.=20

Then last weekend out of the blue I receive an e-mail from Jeremy Cote, the=
 "Director of Professional Relations for First Comics" indicating he'd read=
 one of my posts mentioning my dilemma and he offered up not only an apolog=
y but offered to personally send the volume to me. I gleefully took him up =
on his offer and yesterday it arrived, along with a nifty First Comics t-sh=
irt. So after two years my payment is redeemed and First Comics has a fan f=
or life.

The volume offers up the lush artwork by Joe Staton in a condition heretofo=
re unseen. I've read the first two stories for the umpteenth time and they =
are glorious with all new color. In fact the color work in this collection =
is especially keen.

Issue three of E-Man was done before a paper shortage caused cessation of p=
ublication and before they could relaunch the infamous Energy Crisis of the=
 middle 70's prompted Cuti and Staton to substitute a newer story about tha=
t, leaving the original third issue to become fourth. By that time Staton's=
 art had changed pretty dramatically. In this volume the original order of =
production is maintained.=20

Also there are glimpses of two alternate covers, one for the debut issue an=
d another for issue three which I've never seen. And I'm someone who has be=
en gathering up E-Man material for decades. So there are pleasant surprises=
 here for all fans. I cannot recommend this volume enough. Get one. It's di=
fficult though as right now First is only selling this volume at convention=
s.=20

E-Man is a refreshing hero who almost always has a smile on his face. Now I=
 do too.  Thanks Nick. Thanks Joe. And by all means thanks Jeremy.

Rip Off


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Hi Rip,
A great collecting day for you.
Just thought I'd mention that there's another Charlton alumni with a differ=
ent take on the world that is currently in active production. That's Ron Fo=
rtier & Gary Kato's Mr. Jigsaw - Man of a Thousand Parts.
Jiggy started as a part of the Bullseye initiative, but ended up appearing =
in an issue of Scary Tales. He went on to a couple of small press appearenc=
es and a web-comic before finding a long term home. All of his stories are =
now available at from Redbud Studios via IndyPlanet in both print & digital=
 formats.
http://indyplanet.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=3DJigsaw&os=
Csid=3Dfap6ortu1jgnrvbuvir3vek9p1&search.x=3D0&search.y=3D0
I enjoy Mr. Jigsaw the same way I enjoy a good Barks or Rosa duck story.
Bob

--- On Sun, 5/26/13, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The E-Man Cometh!
To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 26, 2013, 6:02 AM
















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=20=20=20=20
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      Yesterday was one of the more interesting and memorable days in my co=
mic book collecting life. Part of what made yesterday such a sweet day was =
the arrival in the daily post (bless the United Postal Service and Saturday=
 delivery) of a spanking brand new edition of "E-Man The Early Years" from =
First Comics.



When this volume was first announced two years ago, I immediately ordered a=
 copy. I never got it. For whatever reason it never arrived and my attempts=
 to contact First Comics failed to connect. After a time, I wrote it all up=
 to a whopping big case of "Caveat Emptor" and went on with my life. But I =
still yearned for a copy of this seemingly quite handsome volume which coll=
ected up the Charlton E-Man stories by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton. I'd read=
 raves about this volume, seen it in pictures online and craved one of my v=
ery own. A few months ago I posted on a few Charlton related websites my de=
sire and asked for advice on how to best get hold of a copy, assuming  all =
along I'd have to pay again. I was willing and downright eager if it meant =
getting a copy of this book.=20



Then last weekend out of the blue I receive an e-mail from Jeremy Cote, the=
 "Director of Professional Relations for First Comics" indicating he'd read=
 one of my posts mentioning my dilemma and he offered up not only an apolog=
y but offered to personally send the volume to me. I gleefully took him up =
on his offer and yesterday it arrived, along with a nifty First Comics t-sh=
irt. So after two years my payment is redeemed and First Comics has a fan f=
or life.



The volume offers up the lush artwork by Joe Staton in a condition heretofo=
re unseen. I've read the first two stories for the umpteenth time and they =
are glorious with all new color. In fact the color work in this collection =
is especially keen.



Issue three of E-Man was done before a paper shortage caused cessation of p=
ublication and before they could relaunch the infamous Energy Crisis of the=
 middle 70's prompted Cuti and Staton to substitute a newer story about tha=
t, leaving the original third issue to become fourth. By that time Staton's=
 art had changed pretty dramatically. In this volume the original order of =
production is maintained.=20



Also there are glimpses of two alternate covers, one for the debut issue an=
d another for issue three which I've never seen. And I'm someone who has be=
en gathering up E-Man material for decades. So there are pleasant surprises=
 here for all fans. I cannot recommend this volume enough. Get one. It's di=
fficult though as right now First is only selling this volume at convention=
s.=20



E-Man is a refreshing hero who almost always has a smile on his face. Now I=
 do too.  Thanks Nick. Thanks Joe. And by all means thanks Jeremy.



Rip Off






=20=20










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I very much like Mr.Jigsaw and I've researched him before. Fortier and Kato=
 have produced a lot more issues than I'd imagined. They look very entertai=
ning indeed.=20

--- In CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com, Robert Kennedy <erwin_k_r@...> wro=
te:
>
> Hi Rip,
> A great collecting day for you.
> Just thought I'd mention that there's another Charlton alumni with a diff=
erent take on the world that is currently in active production. That's Ron =
Fortier & Gary Kato's Mr. Jigsaw - Man of a Thousand Parts.
> Jiggy started as a part of the Bullseye initiative, but ended up appearin=
g in an issue of Scary Tales. He went on to a couple of small press appeare=
nces and a web-comic before finding a long term home. All of his stories ar=
e now available at from Redbud Studios via IndyPlanet in both print & digit=
al formats.
> http://indyplanet.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=3DJigsaw&=
osCsid=3Dfap6ortu1jgnrvbuvir3vek9p1&search.x=3D0&search.y=3D0
> I enjoy Mr. Jigsaw the same way I enjoy a good Barks or Rosa duck story.
> Bob
>=20
> --- On Sun, 5/26/13, Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...> wrote:
>=20
> From: Rip Jagger <ripjagger@...>
> Subject: [CharltonBullseye] The E-Man Cometh!
> To: CharltonBullseye@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 26, 2013, 6:02 AM
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>       Yesterday was one of the more interesting and memorable days in my =
comic book collecting life. Part of what made yesterday such a sweet day wa=
s the arrival in the daily post (bless the United Postal Service and Saturd=
ay delivery) of a spanking brand new edition of "E-Man The Early Years" fro=
m First Comics.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> When this volume was first announced two years ago, I immediately ordered=
 a copy. I never got it. For whatever reason it never arrived and my attemp=
ts to contact First Comics failed to connect. After a time, I wrote it all =
up to a whopping big case of "Caveat Emptor" and went on with my life. But =
I still yearned for a copy of this seemingly quite handsome volume which co=
llected up the Charlton E-Man stories by Nicola Cuti and Joe Staton. I'd re=
ad raves about this volume, seen it in pictures online and craved one of my=
 very own. A few months ago I posted on a few Charlton related websites my =
desire and asked for advice on how to best get hold of a copy, assuming  al=
l along I'd have to pay again. I was willing and downright eager if it mean=
t getting a copy of this book.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Then last weekend out of the blue I receive an e-mail from Jeremy Cote, t=
he "Director of Professional Relations for First Comics" indicating he'd re=
ad one of my posts mentioning my dilemma and he offered up not only an apol=
ogy but offered to personally send the volume to me. I gleefully took him u=
p on his offer and yesterday it arrived, along with a nifty First Comics t-=
shirt. So after two years my payment is redeemed and First Comics has a fan=
 for life.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The volume offers up the lush artwork by Joe Staton in a condition hereto=
fore unseen. I've read the first two stories for the umpteenth time and the=
y are glorious with all new color. In fact the color work in this collectio=
n is especially keen.
>=20
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> Issue three of E-Man was done before a paper shortage caused cessation of=
 publication and before they could relaunch the infamous Energy Crisis of t=
he middle 70's prompted Cuti and Staton to substitute a newer story about t=
hat, leaving the original third issue to become fourth. By that time Staton=
's art had changed pretty dramatically. In this volume the original order o=
f production is maintained.=20
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> Also there are glimpses of two alternate covers, one for the debut issue =
and another for issue three which I've never seen. And I'm someone who has =
been gathering up E-Man material for decades. So there are pleasant surpris=
es here for all fans. I cannot recommend this volume enough. Get one. It's =
difficult though as right now First is only selling this volume at conventi=
ons.=20
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> E-Man is a refreshing hero who almost always has a smile on his face. Now=
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Subject: Off-Topic to Pulps: LETTER TO THE YAHOO FINANCIAL COMMUNITY & STOCKHOLDERS
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Hi Brenda,
Firstly, thank you very much for helping to organize this legitimate protes=
t against yahoo, for what they have done (again, for the second time) to Ya=
hoo Groups!
It's a mess what they have done!
And an owner/-moderator of many Yahoo hobby Groups, many owner/moderator fu=
nctions have become unavailable, as well as many functions like photos, mes=
sages, etc,etc,etc, and of course, the Home Page Photo is gone, replaced wi=
th something generic.
I'll get emails from members of groups I both own and, in other cases, just=
 belong to, as a member - but I cannot access them.
=C2=A0
To everyone reading this, my request is, forward this to any and all Yahoo =
Groups that you either own or belong to, as a member, and also please go to=
 the complaint sections of yahoo (detailed below, from Brenda's messages, a=
ttached, please read it), cut and paste the links, then kindly go there and=
 lodge complaints.
If everyone 'assumes' that someone else will do it for you, it probably WON=
'T get done.
Period.
=C2=A0
Please help to end this mess that Yahoo has started, yet again.
Like Brenda says, below, it has been two months, and Yahoo is apparently do=
ing NOTHING to fix the mess that they have made, to all...Yahoo Groups!
=C2=A0
Warm Regards and....
=C2=A0
Best Wishes to all!
=C2=A0
Phil Latter
=C2=A0
NOTE TO David Lee Smith: David, do you have Brenda's email address?
As, I'd like to confer with her, on all of this....
Thanks!
Phil

----- Forwarded Message -----
>From: david lee smith <fourthhostcelestials@yahoo.com>
>To: PULP <PULP_MAGAZINES@yahoogroups.com>; WesternPulps <WesternPulps@yaho=
ogroups.com>; "goldenperils@yahoogroups.com" <goldenperils@yahoogroups.com>=
; JOHNSTON McCULLEY PULP <johnstonmcculleyzorro@yahoogroups.com>; "PULP_MAG=
AZINES_CLIFFSNOTES@yahoogroups.com" <PULP_MAGAZINES_CLIFFSNOTES@yahoogroups=
.com>; JAMES B. HENDRYX PULP <hendryx@yahoogroups.com>=20
>Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:23:20 PM
>Subject: [johnstonmcculleyzorro] Off-Topic to Pulps: LETTER TO THE FINANCI=
AL COMMUNITY & STOCKHOLDERS
>
>=C2=A0=20
>My name is Brenda ----I want to update you on the state of Yahoo Groups an=
d how what is being done to them will be impacting the financial health of =
Yahoo. We are unable to use the new Neo interface, and as a result they hav=
e begun a mass exodus from Yahoo Groups and all things Yahoo.On 9/27/13, 29=
,000 members in a 38,000 member group quit. http://yahoo.uservoice.com/foru=
ms/209451-us-groups/suggestions/4495978-you-should-better-close-the-yahoo-g=
roupsAnother 500,000 members are ready to leave if nothing is done! http://=
yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451-us-groups/suggestions/4501268-yahoo-group=
-is-moving-in-wrong-direction-iThis details some of the groups that have le=
ft and their member counts.http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmember=
s/message/3552And many users are also selling their stock:http://tech.group=
s.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/message/3558We are contacting advertisers,=
 and many users are boycotting them as well. I've been in touch by
 phone with American Express, Bank of America, and Microsoft so far, as wel=
l as a major cable news station.In 2010, I created a group: http://tech.gro=
ups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/to stop a previous Yahoo Groups remodel,=
 and we succeeded. Jim Stoneham intervened, the press helped, and we won th=
e right to keep our Classic Groups.http://gigaom.com/2010/10/04/yahoo-quash=
es-groups-redesign-in-wake-of-user-backlash/Well, a couple of months ago, Y=
ahoo did it to us again. But this time, there was no warning. There was no =
notice. There wasn't even any beta testing. In one of the most unethical mo=
ves Yahoo has ever done to the groups, it took random users and overnight, =
tossed them into this "new" interface. No one knew what was going on!When p=
eople began asking Yahoo what had happened in their Uservoice Feedback area=
, at first they denied it.Then they finally admitted that they threw unsusp=
ecting users into a beta test mode called Neo with no warning, and
 no instruction.People then began to ask to get out of the test, and were t=
old they could not. http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451-us-groups/sugg=
estions/4339574-after-filing-an-incident-report-130824-020762-wiThat's when=
 it really got bad. Users began complaining daily in the Feedback Thread, u=
ntil there were thousands of comments, and they still accumulate daily.http=
://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451-us-groups/suggestions/4276993-return-g=
roups-format-to-prior-format-that-works-#commentsI wasn't aware of the situ=
ation until August 31st, and I was approached for help from them. When I in=
vestigated and found out what was going on, I was stunned. The users themse=
lves were neoized, and not every one of every group. Sometimes half could s=
ee one thing and half another! Moderation tools were broken, privacy was vi=
olated in the Freecycle groups, and some others, with private personal cont=
act information for their users was being sent out to the entire
 group of 19,000 people. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/=
message/4215People's archives were inaccessible, photos and information gon=
e, users were heartbroken. So much devastation so needlessly done to people=
 who had owned these groups since the beginning when they were One List, in=
 some cases. And still, nothing! Yahoo was doing nothing! Even the fact tha=
t Yahoo SVP Jeff Bonforte was reading my group wasn't helping! http://tech.=
groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/message/4083So we've been mobilizing =
against Neo, which is an entirely non-functional, failure that is causing u=
sers to flee Yahoo faster than a sinking ship. This uprising isn't about no=
t liking change. This is about real world harm being done to real people an=
d a system that does not work. Thousands and thousands of people are pleadi=
ng with Yahoo to stop this change, and nothing has been done.This has gone =
on for nearly two months, with the only answers being canned ones
 claiming they care or are fixing things (which have not been fixed), & Not=
e, the Neo isn't done to the groups, but done to the individual users.Neo i=
s broken. It does not function. It has breached security issues in the case=
 of Freecycle groups, which caused their private contact info to be public.=
 It is risking health and well being of people. it allows spammers to overr=
un groups and the mods to be powerless to moderate. This is not a resistanc=
e to chance thing. These are real people facing real harm and it needs to b=
e stopped.NEO is nonfunctional, and if Yahoo doesn't roll back this NEO and=
 restore our Classic Groups, Yahoo will continue to lose their users, and m=
ore people will sell stock, until there will be no one left to visit their =
ad pages.Please also feel free to come to my group (it's public to read) an=
d see what I'm talking about. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmem=
bers/ =C2=A0 Please warn the financial community and any stockholders
 about this impending disaster, and help us to get it stopped.Thank You, an=
d feel free to reprint anything in this letter or at my links. Brenda Fowle=
rNightowl >8#=20
>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Hi Brenda,</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Firstly, thank you v=
ery much for helping to organize this legitimate protest against yahoo, for=
 what they have done (again, for the second time) to Yahoo Groups!</SPAN></=
div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">It's a mess what the=
y have done!</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">And an owner/-modera=
tor of many Yahoo hobby Groups, many owner/moderator functions have become =
unavailable, as well as many functions like photos, messages, etc,etc,etc, =
and of course, the Home Page Photo is gone, replaced with something generic=
.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">I'll get emails from=
 members of groups I both own and, in other cases, just belong to, as a mem=
ber - but I cannot access them.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">To everyone reading =
this, my request is, forward this to any and all Yahoo Groups that you eith=
er own or belong to, as a member, and also please go to the complaint secti=
ons of yahoo (detailed below, from Brenda's messages, attached, please read=
 it), cut and paste the links, then kindly go there and lodge complaints.</=
SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">If everyone 'assumes=
' that someone else will do it for you, it probably WON'T get done.</SPAN><=
/div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Period.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Please help to end this mess =
that Yahoo has started, yet again.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Like Brenda says, be=
low, it has been two months, and Yahoo is apparently doing NOTHING to fix t=
he mess that they have made, to all...Yahoo Groups!</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Warm Regards and....=
</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Best Wishes to all!<=
/SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL=
Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1=
6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Phil Latter</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">NOTE TO David Lee Sm=
ith: David, do you have Brenda's email address?<BR>As, I'd like to confer w=
ith her, on all of this....</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Thanks!</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Phil<VAR id=3Dyui-ie=
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<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><BR></div>
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ZE: 12pt">
<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto" dir=3Dltr>----- Forwarded Message -----<BR><FONT=
 size=3D2 face=3DArial><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B=
> david lee smith &lt;fourthhostcelestials@yahoo.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> PULP &lt;PULP_MAGAZINES@yahoogroups.c=
om&gt;; WesternPulps &lt;WesternPulps@yahoogroups.com&gt;; "goldenperils@ya=
hoogroups.com" &lt;goldenperils@yahoogroups.com&gt;; JOHNSTON McCULLEY PULP=
 &lt;johnstonmcculleyzorro@yahoogroups.com&gt;; "PULP_MAGAZINES_CLIFFSNOTES=
@yahoogroups.com" &lt;PULP_MAGAZINES_CLIFFSNOTES@yahoogroups.com&gt;; JAMES=
 B. HENDRYX PULP &lt;hendryx@yahoogroups.com&gt; <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT=
-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 30, 2013 6:23:20 PM<BR><B=
><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [johnstonmcculleyzor=
ro] Off-Topic to Pulps: LETTER TO THE FINANCIAL COMMUNITY &amp; STOCKHOLDER=
S<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto" class=3Dy_msg_container><WBR>
<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto" id=3Dyiv6972158343>
<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none">&nbsp;</SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dyiv6972158343ygrp-text>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, helvetica, sans=
-serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">
<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto">My name is Brenda ----<WBR><WBR>I want to update=
 you on the state of Yahoo Groups and how what is being done to them will b=
e impacting the financial health of Yahoo. We are unable to use the new Neo=
 interface, and as a result they have begun a mass exodus from Yahoo Groups=
 and all things Yahoo.<WBR><WBR>On 9/27/13, 29,000 members in a 38,000 memb=
er group quit. http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451-us-groups/suggestio=
ns/4495978-you-should-better-close-the-yahoo-groups<WBR><WBR>Another 500,00=
0 members are ready to leave if nothing is done! http://yahoo.uservoice.com=
/forums/209451-us-groups/suggestions/4501268-yahoo-group-is-moving-in-wrong=
-direction-i<WBR><WBR>This details some of the groups that have left and th=
eir member counts.<WBR>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/me=
ssage/3552<WBR><WBR>And many users are also selling their stock:<WBR>http:/=
/tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/message/3558<WBR><WBR>We
 are contacting advertisers, and many users are boycotting them as well. I'=
ve been in touch by phone with American Express, Bank of America, and Micro=
soft so far, as well as a major cable news station.<WBR><WBR>In 2010, I cre=
ated a group: <WBR>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/<WBR><=
WBR>to stop a previous Yahoo Groups remodel, and we succeeded. Jim Stoneham=
 intervened, the press helped, and we won the right to keep our Classic Gro=
ups.<WBR><WBR>http://gigaom.com/2010/10/04/yahoo-quashes-groups-redesign-in=
-wake-of-user-backlash/<WBR><WBR>Well, a couple of months ago, Yahoo did it=
 to us again. But this time, there was no warning. There was no notice. The=
re wasn't even any beta testing. In one of the most unethical moves Yahoo h=
as ever done to the groups, it took random users and overnight, tossed them=
 into this "new" interface. No one knew what was going on!<WBR><WBR>When pe=
ople began asking Yahoo what had happened in their Uservoice
 Feedback area, at first they denied it.Then they finally admitted that the=
y threw unsuspecting users into a beta test mode called Neo with no warning=
, and no instruction.People then began to ask to get out of the test, and w=
ere told they could not. <WBR><WBR>http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451=
-us-groups/suggestions/4339574-after-filing-an-incident-report-130824-02076=
2-wi<WBR><WBR>That's when it really got bad. Users began complaining daily =
in the Feedback Thread, until there were thousands of comments, and they st=
ill accumulate daily.<WBR><WBR>http://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/209451-us-=
groups/suggestions/4276993-return-groups-format-to-prior-format-that-works-=
#comments<WBR><WBR>I wasn't aware of the situation until August 31st, and I=
 was approached for help from them. When I investigated and found out what =
was going on, I was stunned. The users themselves were neoized, and not eve=
ry one of every group. Sometimes half could see one thing and half
 another! <WBR><WBR>Moderation tools were broken, privacy was violated in t=
he Freecycle groups, and some others, with private personal contact informa=
tion for their users was being sent out to the entire group of 19,000 peopl=
e. <WBR>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/modsandmembers/message/4215<WBR>=
<WBR>People's archives were <SPAN id=3Dyiv6972158343misspell-6><SPAN>inacce=
ssible</SPAN></SPAN>, photos and information gone, users were heartbroken. =
So much devastation so needlessly done to people who had owned these groups=
 since the beginning when they were One List, in some cases. And still, not=
hing! Yahoo was doing nothing! <WBR><WBR>Even the fact that Yahoo SVP Jeff =
Bonforte was reading my group wasn't helping! http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/=
group/modsandmembers/message/4083<WBR><WBR>So we've been mobilizing against=
 Neo, which is an entirely non-functional, failure that is causing users to=
 flee Yahoo faster than a sinking ship. <WBR><WBR>This uprising isn't
 about not liking change. This is about real world harm being done to real =
people and a system that does not work. Thousands and thousands of people a=
re pleading with Yahoo to stop this change, and nothing has been done.<WBR>=
<WBR>This has gone on for nearly two months, with the only answers being ca=
nned ones claiming they care or are fixing things (which have not been fixe=
d), &amp; Note, the Neo isn't done to the groups, but done to the individua=
l users.<WBR><WBR>Neo is broken. It does not function. It has breached secu=
rity issues in the case of Freecycle groups, which caused their private con=
tact info to be public. It is risking health and well being of people. it a=
llows spammers to overrun groups and the mods to be powerless to moderate. =
This is not a resistance to chance thing. These are real people facing real=
 harm and it needs to be stopped.<WBR><WBR>NEO is nonfunctional, and if Yah=
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Michael,

I was so excited when I got this email last night.  I almost emailed you a
couple of weeks ago to see if you were working on another issue.  I will
order a couple of copies today.

If you don't mind would you please autograph the cover?

Your Fellow Charlton Fan,

Jay Williams
Franklin, TN



On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM, <charspot01@austin.rr.com> wrote:

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>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #8 is here! In stock and shipping NOW, featuring a lon=
g
> interview with Nicola Cuti<https://www.facebook.com/nicola.cuti?directed_=
target_id=3D0>,
> an unpublished feature-length Charlton Doomsday+1 story by Tom Sutton
> appearing here for the very first time anywhere, a long Charlton memoir b=
y Paul
> Kupperberg <https://www.facebook.com/paul.kupperberg?directed_target_id=
=3D0>,
> a memoir of Alex Toth by Ron Frantz<https://www.facebook.com/ron.frantz.5=
0?directed_target_id=3D0>,
> a new puzzle page by George Wildman, and more! SPOTLIGHT #8 is 52
> full-color pages. Come on over and have some Charlton fun with us!
>
>
>
> To order, go to www.charltonspotlight.net or send check/MO for $9.95 plus
> $3.00 P&H payable to Argo Press, PO Box 4201, Austin TX 78765. (Inquire f=
or
> Canada/overseas postage.)
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike A
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Michael,<br><br></div>I was so excited when=
 I got this email last night.=A0 I almost emailed you a couple of weeks ago=
 to see if you were working on another issue.=A0 I will order a couple of c=
opies today.=A0 <br>
<br>If you don&#39;t mind would you please autograph the cover?<br><br></di=
v>Your Fellow Charlton Fan,<br><br>Jay Williams<br></div>Franklin, TN<br><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sa=
t, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:charsp=
ot01@austin.rr.com" target=3D"_blank">charspot01@austin.rr.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt"> =A0</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt">CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT =
#8 is here! In stock
and shipping NOW, featuring a long interview with <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=
=3D"https://www.facebook.com/nicola.cuti?directed_target_id=3D0" target=3D"=
_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Nicola Cuti</=
span></a>,
an unpublished feature-length Charlton Doomsday+1 story by Tom Sutton appea=
ring
here for the very first time anywhere, a long Charlton memoir by <a rel=3D"=
nofollow" href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/paul.kupperberg?directed_target_=
id=3D0" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:n=
one">Paul
Kupperberg</span></a>, a memoir of Alex Toth by <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D=
"https://www.facebook.com/ron.frantz.50?directed_target_id=3D0" target=3D"_=
blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Ron Frantz</sp=
an></a>,
a new puzzle page by George Wildman, and more! SPOTLIGHT #8 is 52 full-colo=
r pages.
Come on over and have some Charlton fun with us!</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt"> =A0</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt">To order, go to <a =
rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://www.charltonspotlight.net" target=3D"_blank=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">www.charltonspotlight.net</span></a>
or send check/MO for $9.95 plus $3.00 P&amp;H payable to Argo Press, PO Box
4201, Austin TX 78765. (Inquire for Canada/overseas postage.)</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt"> =A0</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt">Thanks!</span></p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt">Mike A</span></p>

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I received mine in the mail last week.=A0 GREAT issue. Go. Buy it.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Michael,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div>I was so excited when I got this email last night.=A0 I almost ema=
iled you a couple of weeks ago to see if you were working on another issue.=
=A0 I will order a couple of copies today.=A0 <br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">If you don&apos;t mind would you please autograph the co=
ver?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>Your Fellow Charlton Fan,<b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Jay Williams<br clear=3D"none"></div>Fr=
anklin, TN<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yqt9359186299" id=
=3D"yqtfd85761"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM,=
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o:charspot01@austin.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"javascript:return">ch=
arspot01@austin.rr.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;"> =A0</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;">CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT=
 #8 is here! In stock
and shipping NOW, featuring a long interview with <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
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rected_target_id=3D0"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;=
">Nicola Cuti</span></a>,
an unpublished feature-length Charlton Doomsday+1 story by Tom Sutton appea=
ring
here for the very first time anywhere, a long Charlton memoir by <a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.facebook.com=
/paul.kupperberg?directed_target_id=3D0"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none;">Paul
Kupperberg</span></a>, a memoir of Alex Toth by <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
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directed_target_id=3D0"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:non=
e;">Ron Frantz</span></a>,
a new puzzle page by George Wildman, and more! SPOTLIGHT #8 is 52 full-colo=
r pages.
Come on over and have some Charlton fun with us!</span></p>=20

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;">To order, go to <a=
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tonspotlight.net"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;">www.charltonspotlight.n=
et</span></a>
or send check/MO for $9.95 plus $3.00 P&amp;H payable to Argo Press, PO Box
4201, Austin TX 78765. (Inquire for Canada/overseas postage.)</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;"> =A0</span></p>=20

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;">Thanks!</span></p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.0pt;">Mike A</span></p>

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I received my copy on Friday and spent the weekend perusing it. What a treat! Anyone who is a Charlton fan, or just a fan of Silver Age comics should be reading this. Really enjoyed the interviews and the Doomsday +1 #13 was a stark reminder how Charlton had a habit of not sticking with their better properties.That was a concept that should have had a much longer run.

I really cant recommend this highly enough!

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Hey Dean,
I will definately be $$ supporting Charlton Arrow; I already support Charlt=
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to cover!
But---that article about Zeus Comics, and the numerous Zeus Comics found in=
 the home wall of someone's house --- the entire ARTICLE reads like a compl=
ete work of fiction!
Is it, right?

Cheers!

Phil Latter
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:19 PM, "WRHBill@aol.com" <WRHBill@aol.com> wrot=
e:
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We live in a "Golden Age of Comic-Book Reprints," at least for those who=20
have a lot of disposable income to buy pricey book collections, or who have=
=20
access to a public library that acquires a lot of these collections.=C2=A0=
=20
(These days I don't particularly belong to the first category, but fortunat=
ely I=20
do belong to the second.)=C2=A0 A huge amount of the output of DC and Marve=
l,=20
and a number of items from other publishers such as Gold Key, Archie, etc.,=
 can=20
be found in book format.=C2=A0 Charlton is a partial exception.=C2=A0 DC ha=
sn't=20
done that much reprinting of the original "action-heroes" to which it acqui=
red=20
the rights (just a couple of "Action Heroes Archives" reprinting the Ditko =
Capt.=20
Atom and Blue Beetle), and as for the characters in various genres that DC=
=20
didn't pick up, the publication rights have been scattered or lost in=20
limbo.=C2=A0 Not, I suppose, that there's that much non-action-hero Charlto=
n=20
stuff anyone is eager to see reprinted.=C2=A0 But I've been reminded recent=
ly=20
that there are two non-superhero Charlton series which I'd be happy to see=
=20
reprinted in their entirety.

One of these is the war series "The Lonely=20
War of Capt. Willy Schultz", which appeared in Charlton's FIGHTIN' ARMY dur=
ing=20
the late 60's/early 70's.=C2=A0 It was written by young writer Willi Franz =
(that=20
is, he was young then-- weren't we all) and drawn by war-comics veteran Sam=
=20
Glanzman.=C2=A0 The series got a reputation as being unusually gritty and=20
realistic for a Charlton war comic, even though the initial premise is deci=
dedly=20
convoluted and far-fetched.=C2=A0 Willy Schultz, a U.S. Army officer of Ger=
man=20
descent, serving as a tankman in the North African desert campaign,=C2=A0 i=
s=20
framed for the murder of another soldier and sentenced to death in a drumhe=
ad=20
court martial.=C2=A0 He escapes, for some reason puts on the uniform of a d=
ead=20
German tank soldier, and then is found by the Germans and taken for a real=
=20
German.=C2=A0 Since Schultz is fluent in German, including slang (which it =
would=20
seem would have made him more useful in Army Intelligence than the tank cor=
ps,=20
but then, who said the Army was that intelligent?) he is able to pass himse=
lf=20
off as a German soldier rather than being shot as a spy.=C2=A0 However, sin=
ce he=20
isn't actually a traitor to the U.S., the situation puts him in a major=20
bind.=C2=A0 He doesn't want to be involved in killing fellow Americans.=C2=
=A0=20
But as he serves alongside the German tankmen, he develops a bond with them=
 too=20
and doesn't want to see them hurt either.

I've only read a few=20
installments at the beginning of the series and a couple of issues from nea=
r the=20
end.=C2=A0 Apparently the masquerade as a German soldier comes to an end af=
ter a=20
few issues, and (judging by covers from the GCD) Schultz spends some time i=
n a=20
German prisoner of war camp.=C2=A0 Then in the later issues of which I've s=
een a=20
couple, he is trying to earn his way back into the good graces of the U.S. =
Army=20
by serving as American liaison to a band of anti-Nazi partisans in Italy.=
=C2=A0=20
I was reminded of the series this week when my local comics shop acquired a=
 few=20
old Charlton war comics for sale at a buck each, and I picked up FIGHTIN' A=
RMY=20
#77, which contains, I think, the second installment of "Willy Schultz".=C2=
=A0=20
(I was considering doing a full review of the issue, but I don't think I'm =
going=20
to unless there's major interest.)=C2=A0 I haven't made a major effort over=
 the=20
years to collect the whole series from FIGHTIN' ARMY, both because they're =
hard=20
to find and because, other than the Schultz series, the issues contain rout=
ine=20
Charlton war material of little interest.=C2=A0 As part of their last gasp =
of=20
comic-book publishing in the early 80's, when they were looking for stuff t=
hey=20
could reprint that might be of fan interest (having aleady sold off the=20
action-heroes to DC), Charlton published a WILLY SCHULTZ reprint title that=
 only=20
ran a couple or three issues.=C2=A0 Then apparently a small-press company c=
alled=20
Avalon ran a four-issue reprint series, but I don't have any of those.=C2=
=A0 I'd=20
like to see a reprinting of the whole series, if only to find out exactly h=
ow=20
Schultz got out of that mess of posing as a German soldier.=C2=A0=20

The=20
other off-trail Charlton series I'd like to see reprinted-- this one I was=
=20
reminded of by the Denny O'Neil interview in ALTER EGO-- is "Wander," the=20
comedy/sci-fi/Western feature that ran as a backup in the CHEYENNE KID West=
ern=20
comic in the late 60's/early 70's.=C2=A0 It was originally written by O'Nei=
l,=20
under his "Sergius O'Shaugnessy" pseudonym, and drawn by Jim Aparo.=C2=A0 A=
fter=20
they defected to DC, the series was drawn and possibly written by a Charlto=
n=20
artist named Fred Himes.=C2=A0 I only have a couple of the issues featuring=
=20
"Wander," and I'd like to see the rest of the series, at least the O'Neil/A=
paro=20
installments.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

I don't suppose anyone on the list can tell me the reprint collections I'm=
=20
looking for actually exist?=C2=A0 (This happened once before, when I wished=
 for=20
a collection of the 1950's Sub-Marriner stories from=C2=A0Atlas/Marvel, and=
 was=20
informed what I was looking for existed as part of the "Atlas Era Heroes"=20
Masterwork series.)

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have a lot of disposable income to buy pricey book collections, or who have=
=20
access to a public library that acquires a lot of these collections.&nbsp;=
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(These days I don't particularly belong to the first category, but fortunat=
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do belong to the second.)&nbsp; A huge amount of the output of DC and Marve=
l,=20
and a number of items from other publishers such as Gold Key, Archie, etc.,=
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be found in book format.&nbsp; Charlton is a partial exception.&nbsp; DC ha=
sn't=20
done that much reprinting of the original "action-heroes" to which it acqui=
red=20
the rights (just a couple of "Action Heroes Archives" reprinting the Ditko =
Capt.=20
Atom and Blue Beetle), and as for the characters in various genres that DC=
=20
didn't pick up, the publication rights have been scattered or lost in=20
limbo.&nbsp; Not, I suppose, that there's that much non-action-hero Charlto=
n=20
stuff anyone is eager to see reprinted.&nbsp; But I've been reminded recent=
ly=20
that there are two non-superhero Charlton series which I'd be happy to see=
=20
reprinted in their entirety.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">One of th=
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War of Capt. Willy Schultz", which appeared in Charlton's FIGHTIN' ARMY dur=
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the late 60's/early 70's.&nbsp; It was written by young writer Willi Franz =
(that=20
is, he was young then-- weren't we all) and drawn by war-comics veteran Sam=
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realistic for a Charlton war comic, even though the initial premise is deci=
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ad=20
court martial.&nbsp; He escapes, for some reason puts on the uniform of a d=
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German tank soldier, and then is found by the Germans and taken for a real=
=20
German.&nbsp; Since Schultz is fluent in German, including slang (which it =
would=20
seem would have made him more useful in Army Intelligence than the tank cor=
ps,=20
but then, who said the Army was that intelligent?) he is able to pass himse=
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off as a German soldier rather than being shot as a spy.&nbsp; However, sin=
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installments at the beginning of the series and a couple of issues from nea=
r the=20
end.&nbsp; Apparently the masquerade as a German soldier comes to an end af=
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few issues, and (judging by covers from the GCD) Schultz spends some time i=
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couple, he is trying to earn his way back into the good graces of the U.S. =
Army=20
by serving as American liaison to a band of anti-Nazi partisans in Italy.&n=
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I was reminded of the series this week when my local comics shop acquired a=
 few=20
old Charlton war comics for sale at a buck each, and I picked up FIGHTIN' A=
RMY=20
#77, which contains, I think, the second installment of "Willy Schultz".&nb=
sp;=20
(I was considering doing a full review of the issue, but I don't think I'm =
going=20
to unless there's major interest.)&nbsp; I haven't made a major effort over=
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years to collect the whole series from FIGHTIN' ARMY, both because they're =
hard=20
to find and because, other than the Schultz series, the issues contain rout=
ine=20
Charlton war material of little interest.&nbsp; As part of their last gasp =
of=20
comic-book publishing in the early 80's, when they were looking for stuff t=
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could reprint that might be of fan interest (having aleady sold off the=20
action-heroes to DC), Charlton published a WILLY SCHULTZ reprint title that=
 only=20
ran a couple or three issues.&nbsp; Then apparently a small-press company c=
alled=20
Avalon ran a four-issue reprint series, but I don't have any of those.&nbsp=
; I'd=20
like to see a reprinting of the whole series, if only to find out exactly h=
ow=20
Schultz got out of that mess of posing as a German soldier.&nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The=20
other off-trail Charlton series I'd like to see reprinted-- this one I was=
=20
reminded of by the Denny O'Neil interview in ALTER EGO-- is "Wander," the=20
comedy/sci-fi/Western feature that ran as a backup in the CHEYENNE KID West=
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comic in the late 60's/early 70's.&nbsp; It was originally written by O'Nei=
l,=20
under his "Sergius O'Shaugnessy" pseudonym, and drawn by Jim Aparo.&nbsp; A=
fter=20
they defected to DC, the series was drawn and possibly written by a Charlto=
n=20
artist named Fred Himes.&nbsp; I only have a couple of the issues featuring=
=20
"Wander," and I'd like to see the rest of the series, at least the O'Neil/A=
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installments.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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looking for actually exist?&nbsp; (This happened once before, when I wished=
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a collection of the 1950's Sub-Marriner stories from&nbsp;Atlas/Marvel, and=
 was=20
informed what I was looking for existed as part of the "Atlas Era Heroes"=20
Masterwork series.)<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; <br clear=
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I only lack scans from issues 77 and 81 of Fightin' Army with 77 reprinted in Attack 20. If anyone has those to contribute. I would like to make an archive file to share. It seems the copright is unsure. If anyone knows for sure or claims the copyright please let me know. This will be offered free and if anyone owns the copyright they would be able to get the complete Willy Schultz which they probably do not have.
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Roger Braughton reprinted some of the Willy Schultz, and had scheduled a
complete collection which was cancelled.
       (of course his comics had worse production work than Charlton ever
did)


Steven


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Darci <darci386@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>   On Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:19 PM, "WRHBill@aol.com" <WRHBill@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>   We live in a "Golden Age of Comic-Book Reprints," at least for those
> who have a lot of disposable income to buy pricey book collections, or who
> have access to a public library that acquires a lot of these collections.
> (These days I don't particularly belong to the first category, but
> fortunately I do belong to the second.)  A huge amount of the output of DC
> and Marvel, and a number of items from other publishers such as Gold Key,
> Archie, etc., can be found in book format.  Charlton is a partial
> exception.  DC hasn't done that much reprinting of the original
> "action-heroes" to which it acquired the rights (just a couple of "Action
> Heroes Archives" reprinting the Ditko Capt. Atom and Blue Beetle), and as
> for the characters in various genres that DC didn't pick up, the
> publication rights have been scattered or lost in limbo.  Not, I suppose,
> that there's that much non-action-hero Charlton stuff anyone is eager to
> see reprinted.  But I've been reminded recently that there are two
> non-superhero Charlton series which I'd be happy to see reprinted in their
> entirety.
>
> One of these is the war series "The Lonely War of Capt. Willy Schultz",
> which appeared in Charlton's FIGHTIN' ARMY during the late 60's/early
> 70's.  It was written by young writer Willi Franz (that is, he was young
> then-- weren't we all) and drawn by war-comics veteran Sam Glanzman.  The
> series got a reputation as being unusually gritty and realistic for a
> Charlton war comic, even though the initial premise is decidedly convoluted
> and far-fetched.  Willy Schultz, a U.S. Army officer of German descent,
> serving as a tankman in the North African desert campaign,  is framed for
> the murder of another soldier and sentenced to death in a drumhead court
> martial.  He escapes, for some reason puts on the uniform of a dead German
> tank soldier, and then is found by the Germans and taken for a real
> German.  Since Schultz is fluent in German, including slang (which it would
> seem would have made him more useful in Army Intelligence than the tank
> corps, but then, who said the Army was that intelligent?) he is able to
> pass himself off as a German soldier rather than being shot as a spy.
> However, since he isn't actually a traitor to the U.S., the situation puts
> him in a major bind.  He doesn't want to be involved in killing fellow
> Americans.  But as he serves alongside the German tankmen, he develops a
> bond with them too and doesn't want to see them hurt either.
>
> I've only read a few installments at the beginning of the series and a
> couple of issues from near the end.  Apparently the masquerade as a German
> soldier comes to an end after a few issues, and (judging by covers from the
> GCD) Schultz spends some time in a German prisoner of war camp.  Then in
> the later issues of which I've seen a couple, he is trying to earn his way
> back into the good graces of the U.S. Army by serving as American liaison
> to a band of anti-Nazi partisans in Italy.  I was reminded of the series
> this week when my local comics shop acquired a few old Charlton war comics
> for sale at a buck each, and I picked up FIGHTIN' ARMY #77, which contains,
> I think, the second installment of "Willy Schultz".  (I was considering
> doing a full review of the issue, but I don't think I'm going to unless
> there's major interest.)  I haven't made a major effort over the years to
> collect the whole series from FIGHTIN' ARMY, both because they're hard to
> find and because, other than the Schultz series, the issues contain routine
> Charlton war material of little interest.  As part of their last gasp of
> comic-book publishing in the early 80's, when they were looking for stuff
> they could reprint that might be of fan interest (having aleady sold off
> the action-heroes to DC), Charlton published a WILLY SCHULTZ reprint title
> that only ran a couple or three issues.  Then apparently a small-press
> company called Avalon ran a four-issue reprint series, but I don't have any
> of those.  I'd like to see a reprinting of the whole series, if only to
> find out exactly how Schultz got out of that mess of posing as a German
> soldier.
>
> The other off-trail Charlton series I'd like to see reprinted-- this one I
> was reminded of by the Denny O'Neil interview in ALTER EGO-- is "Wander,"
> the comedy/sci-fi/Western feature that ran as a backup in the CHEYENNE KID
> Western comic in the late 60's/early 70's.  It was originally written by
> O'Neil, under his "Sergius O'Shaugnessy" pseudonym, and drawn by Jim
> Aparo.  After they defected to DC, the series was drawn and possibly
> written by a Charlton artist named Fred Himes.  I only have a couple of the
> issues featuring "Wander," and I'd like to see the rest of the series, at
> least the O'Neil/Aparo installments.
>
> I don't suppose anyone on the list can tell me the reprint collections I'm
> looking for actually exist?  (This happened once before, when I wished for
> a collection of the 1950's Sub-Marriner stories from Atlas/Marvel, and was
> informed what I was looking for existed as part of the "Atlas Era Heroes"
> Masterwork series.)
>
>
>
>
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lank">darci386@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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court martial.&nbsp; He escapes, for some reason puts on the uniform of a d=
ead=20
German tank soldier, and then is found by the Germans and taken for a real=
=20
German.&nbsp; Since Schultz is fluent in German, including slang (which it =
would=20
seem would have made him more useful in Army Intelligence than the tank cor=
ps,=20
but then, who said the Army was that intelligent?) he is able to pass himse=
lf=20
off as a German soldier rather than being shot as a spy.&nbsp; However, sin=
ce he=20
isn&#39;t actually a traitor to the U.S., the situation puts him in a major=
=20
bind.&nbsp; He doesn&#39;t want to be involved in killing fellow Americans.=
&nbsp;=20
But as he serves alongside the German tankmen, he develops a bond with them=
 too=20
and doesn&#39;t want to see them hurt either.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">I&#39;ve only read a few=20
installments at the beginning of the series and a couple of issues from nea=
r the=20
end.&nbsp; Apparently the masquerade as a German soldier comes to an end af=
ter a=20
few issues, and (judging by covers from the GCD) Schultz spends some time i=
n a=20
German prisoner of war camp.&nbsp; Then in the later issues of which I&#39;=
ve seen a=20
couple, he is trying to earn his way back into the good graces of the U.S. =
Army=20
by serving as American liaison to a band of anti-Nazi partisans in Italy.&n=
bsp;=20
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9; ARMY=20
#77, which contains, I think, the second installment of &quot;Willy Schultz=
&quot;.&nbsp;=20
(I was considering doing a full review of the issue, but I don&#39;t think =
I&#39;m going=20
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&#39;re hard=20
to find and because, other than the Schultz series, the issues contain rout=
ine=20
Charlton war material of little interest.&nbsp; As part of their last gasp =
of=20
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ff they=20
could reprint that might be of fan interest (having aleady sold off the=20
action-heroes to DC), Charlton published a WILLY SCHULTZ reprint title that=
 only=20
ran a couple or three issues.&nbsp; Then apparently a small-press company c=
alled=20
Avalon ran a four-issue reprint series, but I don&#39;t have any of those.&=
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like to see a reprinting of the whole series, if only to find out exactly h=
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was=20
reminded of by the Denny O&#39;Neil interview in ALTER EGO-- is &quot;Wande=
r,&quot; the=20
comedy/sci-fi/Western feature that ran as a backup in the CHEYENNE KID West=
ern=20
comic in the late 60&#39;s/early 70&#39;s.&nbsp; It was originally written =
by O&#39;Neil,=20
under his &quot;Sergius O&#39;Shaugnessy&quot; pseudonym, and drawn by Jim =
Aparo.&nbsp; After=20
they defected to DC, the series was drawn and possibly written by a Charlto=
n=20
artist named Fred Himes.&nbsp; I only have a couple of the issues featuring=
=20
&quot;Wander,&quot; and I&#39;d like to see the rest of the series, at leas=
t the O&#39;Neil/Aparo=20
installments.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I don&#39;t suppose anyone on the list can tell me the reprint collect=
ions I&#39;m=20
looking for actually exist?&nbsp; (This happened once before, when I wished=
 for=20
a collection of the 1950&#39;s Sub-Marriner stories from&nbsp;Atlas/Marvel,=
 and was=20
informed what I was looking for existed as part of the &quot;Atlas Era Hero=
es&quot;=20
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I printed up 350 copies of this issue. I'll be mailing out over 100=20
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To Craig, and Jim Burns,
Today, I received in the mail The Charlton Arrow # 1 and # 2.Unfortunately,=
 I already had The Charlton Arrow # 2, and had in fact ordered # 1 and # 3.=
So, I'm going to send it back at my own expense and HOPE they'll ship me # =
3 for which I paid for.One can order these online!
I really like The Charlton Arrow, just as I liked The Charlton Spotlight ma=
gazine; I have all 8 issues. Does anyone know if there will be any more iss=
ues of Charlton Spotlight in the future, or has the title folded? As, admit=
tedly, it seems to have been quite a while since C. S # 8 came out...
By the way, the sister site to the Charlton-l@yahoogroups.com , which is ch=
arltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com , has been taken over completely by spammers=
. I realize these sites are not really active anymore, but if we could get =
some conversations going about Charlton, we could turn that around, potenti=
ally.I don't know who the Owner and/-or Moderators were for the Charlton Bu=
llseye Yahoo Group List. Anyone know? Has the owner or Mods there simply ab=
andoned the site to these Spam Bottom Feeders?
Phil
--------------------------------------------------------

I grew up with those wonderful Russ Mannning Sunday TARZANS, in the=C2=A0=
=C2=A0pages of the amazing, and long gone, NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKER!
4 issues, I believe. (of Charlton's Jungle Tales of Tarzan, art by Sam Glan=
zman.) And when I finally located a few, I was underwhelmed.
>=20
> -Craig W.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20
> charlton-l@yahoogroups.com writes:
>=20
> Charlton Comics put out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series in the=20
> early to mid 1960's
>=20



=20

     On Friday, January 16, 2015 1:58 PM, "Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net =
[charlton-l]" <charlton-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
=20=20=20
=20

 =C2=A0=20=20=20
I grew up with those wonderful Russ Mannning Sunday TARZANS, in the=C2=A0=
=C2=A0pages of the amazing, and long gone, NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKER!

> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:01:45 +0000
> From: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [charlton-l] Digest Number 2194
>=20
> There are 4 messages in this issue.
>=20
> Topics in this digest:
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> 1a. Re: Fw: What News ? - Phil=20
> From: wich2aolcom
> 1b. unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)=20
> From: William Henley
> 1c. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)=20
> From: Phil Latter
> 1d. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)=20
> From: wich2aolcom
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> Messages
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1a. Re: Fw: What News ? - Phil
> Posted by: wich2@aol.com wich2aolcom
> Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:46 am ((PST))
>=20
> 4 issues, I believe. And when I finally located a few, I was underwhelmed=
.
>=20
> -Craig W.
>=20
>=20
> In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20
> charlton-l@yahoogroups.com writes:
>=20
> Charlton Comics put out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series in the=20
> early to mid 1960's
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Messages in this topic (11)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1b. unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)
> Posted by: "William Henley" WRHBill@aol.com=20
> Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:50 am ((PST))
>=20
> The Dark Horse collection of the Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan comic is=
 titled The Unauthorized Tarzan. (probably authorized now by the ERB inc/Da=
rk Horse agreement to publish Tarzan material). list price $29.99, publishe=
d in 2013. I haven't read it myself. saw it in a comics shop a while back b=
ut wasn't nearly interested enough to pay that much. The Sam Glanzman art o=
n #1-3 is said to be nice, but I don't really need to read another adaptati=
on of the oft-redone "adventures of Tarzan when he was a boy" Jungle Takes.
>=20
> I might note, though, that thanks to a good public library I recently had=
 the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of the dark Horse collections of the Russ=
 Manning Tarzan newspaper strips. and those are beautiful books which I hig=
hly recommend to whoever can afford to shell out for them. Not only was Man=
ning a great artist, but his story lines for the newspaper strip were origi=
nal stories which were not rehashed novel adaptations yet reflected the myt=
hos and spirit of the ERB novels.
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> > On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM, wich2@aol.com [charlton-l] <charlton-l@yah=
oogroups.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > 4 issues, I believe. And when I finally located a few, I was underwhelm=
ed.
> >=20
> > -Craig W.
> >=20
> > In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charl=
ton-l@yahoogroups.com writes:
> > Charlton Comics put out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series in the =
early to mid 1960's
> >=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Messages in this topic (11)
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 1c. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)
> Posted by: "Phil Latter" chromium_foil@yahoo.ca chromium_foil
> Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:55 pm ((PST))
>=20
> Fair enough, Craig.
> I don't own any of the original Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan, but I am=
 a huge fan of Sam Glanzman, especially his USS Stephens stuff!
> Also CC'ing this to another List, since I started this thread, there. I d=
id NOT know these were reprinted, in 2013.
> Phil
> The Dark Horse collection of the Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan comic is=
 titled The Unauthorized Tarzan. =C2=A0(probably authorized now by the ERB =
inc/Dark Horse agreement to publish Tarzan material). =C2=A0list price $29.=
99, published in 2013. =C2=A0I haven't read it myself. =C2=A0saw it in a co=
mics shop a while back but wasn't nearly interested enough to pay that much=
. =C2=A0The Sam Glanzman art on #1-3 is said to be nice, but I don't really=
 need to read another adaptation of the oft-redone "adventures of Tarzan wh=
en he was a boy" Jungle Takes.
> I might note, though, that thanks to a good public library I recently had=
 the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of the dark Horse collections of the Russ=
 Manning Tarzan newspaper strips. =C2=A0and those are beautiful books which=
 I highly recommend to whoever can afford to shell out for them. =C2=A0Not =
only was Manning a great artist, but his story lines for the newspaper stri=
p were original stories which were not rehashed novel adaptations yet refle=
cted the mythos and spirit of the ERB novels.
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM,=C2=A0wich2@aol.com=C2=A0[charlton-l] <charlt=
on-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A04 issues, I believe. And when I finally located a few, I was underw=
helmed.=C2=A0-Craig W.=C2=A0
>=20
>=20
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:50 PM, "William Henley WRHBill@aol.com [c=
harlton-l]" <charlton-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =C2=A0 The Dark Horse collection of the Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan c=
omic is titled The Unauthorized Tarzan. =C2=A0(probably authorized now by t=
he ERB inc/Dark Horse agreement to publish Tarzan material). =C2=A0list pri=
ce $29.99, published in 2013. =C2=A0I haven't read it myself. =C2=A0saw it =
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at much. =C2=A0The Sam Glanzman art on #1-3 is said to be nice, but I don't=
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rzan when he was a boy" Jungle Takes.
> I might note, though, that thanks to a good public library I recently had=
 the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of the dark Horse collections of the Russ=
 Manning Tarzan newspaper strips. =C2=A0and those are beautiful books which=
 I highly recommend to whoever can afford to shell out for them. =C2=A0Not =
only was Manning a great artist, but his story lines for the newspaper stri=
p were original stories which were not rehashed novel adaptations yet refle=
cted the mythos and spirit of the ERB novels.
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM, wich2@aol.com [charlton-l] <charlton-l@yahoo=
groups.com> wrote:
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>=20
> =C2=A0 4 issues, I believe. And when I finally located a few, I was under=
whelmed.=C2=A0-Craig W.=C2=A0In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eas=
tern Standard Time, charlton-l@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Charlton Comics put out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series in the ea=
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6_0_1_1421451539401_3294">Today, I received in the mail The Charlton Arrow =
# 1 and # 2.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Unfortunately, I already ha=
d The Charlton Arrow # 2, and had in fact ordered # 1 and # 3.</span></div>=
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6_0_1_1421451539401_3434">So, I'm going to send it back at my own expense a=
nd HOPE they'll ship me # 3 for which I paid for.</span></div><div id=3D"yu=
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light magazine; I have all 8 issues. Does anyone know if there will be any =
more issues of Charlton Spotlight in the future, or has the title folded? A=
s, admittedly, it seems to have been quite a while since C. S # 8 came out.=
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 the <a id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1421451539401_4007" href=3D"mailto:Charlton-l@ya=
hoogroups.com">Charlton-l@yahoogroups.com</a> , which is <a href=3D"mailto:=
charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com">charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com</a> , ha=
s been taken over completely by spammers. I realize these sites are not rea=
lly active anymore, but if we could get some conversations going about Char=
lton, we could turn that around, potentially.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1421451539401_4011" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14214515394=
01_4010">I don't know who the Owner and/-or Moderators were for the Charlto=
n Bullseye Yahoo Group List. Anyone know? Has the owner or Mods there simpl=
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r=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1421451539401_3442">I grew up with those=
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zing, and long gone, NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKER!</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
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_3_16_0_1_1421451539401_3805" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14214515=
39401_3804">4 issues, I believe. (of Charlton's Jungle Tales of Tarzan, art=
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lear=3D"none">&gt;     From:  wich2aolcom<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1b. unauth=
orized Tarzan (was What news?)    <br clear=3D"none">&gt;     From: William=
 Henley<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1c. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)=
    <br clear=3D"none">&gt;     From: Phil Latter<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1d=
. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)    <br clear=3D"none">&gt;     F=
rom:  wich2aolcom<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Messages<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ____________________________=
____________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1a. Re:=
 Fw: What News ? - Phil<br clear=3D"none">&gt;     Posted by:  wich2@aol.co=
m wich2aolcom<br clear=3D"none">&gt;     Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:46 am ((P=
ST))<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; 4 issues, I believe. An=
d when I finally located a few, I was  underwhelmed.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -Craig W.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;  <br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M=
. Eastern Standard Time,  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; charlton-l@yahoogroups.co=
m writes:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Charlton Comics pu=
t out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series  in the <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; early to mid 1960's<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Messages=
 in this topic (11)<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ________________________________=
________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1b. unautho=
rized Tarzan (was What news?)<br clear=3D"none">&gt;     Posted by: "Willia=
m Henley" WRHBill@aol.com <br clear=3D"none">&gt;     Date: Thu Jan 15, 201=
5 9:50 am ((PST))<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; The Dark H=
orse collection of the Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan comic is titled The =
Unauthorized Tarzan.  (probably authorized now by the ERB inc/Dark Horse ag=
reement to publish Tarzan material).  list price $29.99, published in 2013.=
  I haven't read it myself.  saw it in a comics shop a while back but wasn'=
t nearly interested enough to pay that much.  The Sam Glanzman art on #1-3 =
is said to be nice, but I don't really need to read another adaptation of t=
he oft-redone "adventures of Tarzan when he was a boy" Jungle Takes.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I might note, though, that thanks =
to a good public library I recently had the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of=
 the dark Horse collections of the Russ Manning Tarzan newspaper strips.  a=
nd those are beautiful books which I highly recommend to whoever can afford=
 to shell out for them.  Not only was Manning a great artist, but his story=
 lines for the newspaper strip were original stories which were not rehashe=
d novel adaptations yet reflected the mythos and spirit of the ERB novels.<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM, wi=
ch2@aol.com [charlton-l] &lt;charlton-l@yahoogroups.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; &gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; 4 issues, I believe. And w=
hen I finally located a few, I was underwhelmed.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt=
;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; -Craig W.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;  <br =
clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; In a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eastern=
 Standard Time, charlton-l@yahoogroups.com writes:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &=
gt; Charlton Comics put out a 5 or 6 issue Tarzan comic book series in the =
early to mid 1960's<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; Messages in this topic (11)<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ______=
__________________________________________________________________<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; 1c. Re: unauthorized Tarzan (was What news?)<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt;     Posted by: "Phil Latter" chromium_foil@yahoo.ca chromium_foil<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt;     Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:55 pm ((PST))<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Fair enough, Craig.<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; I don't own any of the original Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan, but=
 I am a huge fan of Sam Glanzman, especially his USS Stephens stuff!<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; Also CC'ing this to another List, since I started this thr=
ead, there. I did NOT know these were reprinted, in 2013.<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; Phil<br clear=3D"none">&gt; The Dark Horse collection of the Charlton=
 Jungle Tales of Tarzan comic is titled The Unauthorized Tarzan. &nbsp;(pro=
bably authorized now by the ERB inc/Dark Horse agreement to publish Tarzan =
material). &nbsp;list price $29.99, published in 2013. &nbsp;I haven't read=
 it myself. &nbsp;saw it in a comics shop a while back but wasn't nearly in=
terested enough to pay that much. &nbsp;The Sam Glanzman art on #1-3 is sai=
d to be nice, but I don't really need to read another adaptation of the oft=
-redone "adventures of Tarzan when he was a boy" Jungle Takes.<br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; I might note, though, that thanks to a good public library I rec=
ently had the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of the dark Horse collections of=
 the Russ Manning Tarzan newspaper strips. &nbsp;and those are beautiful bo=
oks which I highly recommend to whoever can afford to shell out for them. &=
nbsp;Not only was Manning a great artist, but his story lines for the newsp=
aper strip were original stories which were not rehashed novel adaptations =
yet reflected the mythos and spirit of the ERB novels.<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Ja=
n 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM,&nbsp;wich2@aol.com&nbsp;[charlton-l] &lt;charlton-l=
@yahoogroups.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &nbsp;4 issues, I believe. And when I finally locat=
ed a few, I was underwhelmed.&nbsp;-Craig W.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;  =
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;      On Thursday, January 1=
5, 2015 1:50 PM, "William Henley WRHBill@aol.com [charlton-l]" &lt;charlton=
-l@yahoogroups.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;    <br clear=3D"none">=
&gt;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;  &nbsp;   The Dark Ho=
rse collection of the Charlton Jungle Tales of Tarzan comic is titled The U=
nauthorized Tarzan. &nbsp;(probably authorized now by the ERB inc/Dark Hors=
e agreement to publish Tarzan material). &nbsp;list price $29.99, published=
 in 2013. &nbsp;I haven't read it myself. &nbsp;saw it in a comics shop a w=
hile back but wasn't nearly interested enough to pay that much. &nbsp;The S=
am Glanzman art on #1-3 is said to be nice, but I don't really need to read=
 another adaptation of the oft-redone "adventures of Tarzan when he was a b=
oy" Jungle Takes.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I might note, though, that thanks =
to a good public library I recently had the chance to read vols. 2 and 3 of=
 the dark Horse collections of the Russ Manning Tarzan newspaper strips. &n=
bsp;and those are beautiful books which I highly recommend to whoever can a=
fford to shell out for them. &nbsp;Not only was Manning a great artist, but=
 his story lines for the newspaper strip were original stories which were n=
ot rehashed novel adaptations yet reflected the mythos and spirit of the ER=
B novels.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent from my iPhon=
e<br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:46 AM, wich2@aol.com [charlt=
on-l] &lt;charlton-l@yahoogroups.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;  &nbsp;  4 issues, I believe. A=
nd when I finally located a few, I was underwhelmed.&nbsp;-Craig W.&nbsp;In=
 a message dated 1/13/2015 10:56:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charlton-l@=
yahoogroups.com writes:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Charlton Comics put out a 5 =
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br clear=3D"none">&gt;     Posted by:  wich2@aol.com wich2aolcom<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt;     Date: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:05 pm ((PST))<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Me too, Phil!<br clear=3D"none">&gt;  <br cle=
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Hi Phil and all,

Re: Charlton Arrow, Mort Todd (who produces all those pubs) has had some ur=
gent family issues for the last few months. It's put him behind in producti=
on. I just received my copies of the reissued KILL THE FACE from him, from =
the revamped ACE Comics, and it's fantastic.

There WILL be another issue of Charlton Spotlight. #8 came out just about o=
ne year ago. Last October I published CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT COMICS #1, featuri=
ng new Timmy the Timid Ghost stories by George Wildman and Donnie Pitchford=
, plus a funny animal story by Bill Pearson and Dennis Janke. The latter st=
ory was originally intended for an issue of Charlton Bullseye in 1982 but h=
as remained unpublished till now. Please visit the website for ordering det=
ails. It's a cool, 100% kid-friendly full-color comic book!

It's a shame these Yahoo lists have become moribund, and I'll be the first =
to declare mea culpa for not posting more often. A lot of the old listserv =
traffic has moved over to Facebook these days. That's where the action is.

Mike
_____________________
Michael Ambrose
Charlton Spotlight
Argo Press
P.O. Box 4201
Austin, TX 78765-4201
charspot01@austin.rr.com
www.charltonspotlight.net


To Craig, and Jim Burns,
Today, I received in the mail The Charlton Arrow # 1 and # 2.Unfortunately,=
 I already had The Charlton Arrow # 2, and had in fact ordered # 1 and # 3.=
So, I'm going to send it back at my own expense and HOPE they'll ship me # =
3 for which I paid for.One can order these online!
I really like The Charlton Arrow, just as I liked The Charlton Spotlight ma=
gazine; I have all 8 issues. Does anyone know if there will be any more iss=
ues of Charlton Spotlight in the future, or has the title folded? As, admit=
tedly, it seems to have been quite a while since C. S # 8 came out...
By the way, the sister site to the Charlton-l@yahoogroups.com , which is ch=
arltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com , has been taken over completely by spammers=
. I realize these sites are not really active anymore, but if we could get =
some conversations going about Charlton, we could turn that around, potenti=
ally.I don't know who the Owner and/-or Moderators were for the Charlton Bu=
llseye Yahoo Group List. Anyone know? Has the owner or Mods there simply ab=
andoned the site to these Spam Bottom Feeders?
Phil
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:=
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/div><div>Re: Charlton Arrow, Mort Todd (who produces all those pubs) has h=
ad some urgent family issues for the last few months. It's put him behind i=
n production. I just received my copies of the reissued KILL THE FACE from =
him, from the revamped ACE Comics, and it's fantastic.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>There WILL be another issue of Charlton Spotlight. #8 came out just ab=
out one year ago. Last October I published CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT COMICS #1, fe=
aturing new Timmy the Timid Ghost stories by George Wildman and Donnie Pitc=
hford, plus a funny animal story by Bill Pearson and Dennis Janke. The latt=
er story was originally intended for an issue of Charlton Bullseye in 1982 =
but has remained unpublished till now. Please visit the website for orderin=
g details. It's a cool, 100% kid-friendly full-color comic book!</div><div>=
<br></div><div>It's a shame these Yahoo lists have become moribund, and I'l=
l be the first to declare mea culpa for not posting more often. A lot of th=
e old listserv traffic has moved over to Facebook these days. That's where =
the action is.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br><div>
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cal-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 1=
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one; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none=
; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>___=
__________________</div><div>Michael Ambrose</div><div>Charlton Spotlight</=
div><div>Argo Press</div><div>P.O. Box 4201</div><div>Austin, TX 78765-4201=
</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:charspot01@austin.rr.com">charspot01@austin.rr=
.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.charltonspotlight.net">www.charlto=
nspotlight.net</a></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></div></=
span></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial,=
 helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">To Cra=
ig, and Jim Burns,</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: r=
gb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size=
: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><br></span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" st=
yle=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">Today, I received in the mail T=
he Charlton Arrow # 1 and # 2.Unfortunately, I already had The Charlton Arr=
ow # 2, and had in fact ordered # 1 and # 3.So, I'm going to send it back a=
t my own expense and HOPE they'll ship me # 3 for which I paid for.One can =
order these online!</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><br></span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" s=
tyle=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-=
serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">I really like The Charlton Arr=
ow, just as I liked The Charlton Spotlight magazine; I have all 8 issues. D=
oes anyone know if there will be any more issues of Charlton Spotlight in t=
he future, or has the title folded? As, admittedly, it seems to have been q=
uite a while since C. S # 8 came out...</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-sp=
an" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, =
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><br></span><span class=3D=
"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, hel=
vetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">By the way=
, the sister site to the</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; fon=
t-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-=
span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean=
, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><a href=3D"mailto:Charl=
ton-l@yahoogroups.com">Charlton-l@yahoogroups.com</a></span><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helv=
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mily: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19=
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(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: =
13px; line-height: 19px; ">&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" st=
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eye@yahoogroups.com">charltonbullseye@yahoogroups.com</a></span><span class=
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t-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height=
: 19px; ">, has been taken over completely by spammers. I realize these sit=
es are not really active anymore, but if we could get some conversations go=
ing about Charlton, we could turn that around, potentially.I don't know who=
 the Owner and/-or Moderators were for the Charlton Bullseye Yahoo Group Li=
st. Anyone know? Has the owner or Mods there simply abandoned the site to t=
hese Spam Bottom Feeders?</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"c=
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nt-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><br></span><span class=3D"Apple-style-s=
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 Hi folks,
This note is actually Off Topic to the members of Johnston McCulley Zorro. In fact, it's to the attention of Robert Kennedy, who is both a member of the Johnston McCulley Zorro List, as well as being a moderator on the Charlton Bullseye List.
Robert, you posted recently, a day or two, on the Charlton Bullseye List, that you are a Moderator, there.Of course, I am a member over there, as well.
Around the mid 1980's, I took took store-bought DC superheroes figures, and scratch built them over, to my favourite Charlton Superheroes, namely: The Peacemaker, Captain Atom, Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt, Judomaster, his partner Tiger, and finally, the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.
I just had my partner take some new photos of these figures a minute or two ago. Can I get you to upload them to the Charlton Bullseye website? And, if you are a member there as well, to the Charlton-1@yahoogroups.com website?
It does, off topic, look like there are a lot of spammers on those two websites these days. Looks like you've got your work cut out for you! But hopefully, you will get the Spammers booted!
The photos/-scans are attached, here!
At the last minute, I decided to CC this also to the Canadian Comics List, in case anyone there might like these, also!
Thanks!
Phil Latter

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Speaking of Charlton Comics....For the last several decades, I've been work=
ing hard to complete my collection of original, golden age (1940's) collect=
ion of Charlton's very first superhero comics - original, not reprints nor =
scans - of Yellowjacket Comics.
The superhero Yellowjacket, (which, several decades later, Marvel Comics ap=
ed the name, for their Hank Pym superhero by the same name, after 'Antman',=
 'Giant Man', and 'Goliath', aped and came out with a difference homage ver=
sion, of, also....
Charlton's Yellowjacket first appeared in Yellowjacket Comics # 1, a title =
which ran for ten issues.
Following which, the superhero Yellowjacket, at Charlton Comics, next appea=
red in 'Jack In The Box' Comics # 11 (eleven.)
Basically, it was the SAME TITLE, however, the TITLE of that series CHANGED=
 to 'Jack In The Box' Comics, with # eleven.
Yellowjacket also appeared in 'TNT COMICS' # 1, in the mid 1940's, a title =
which was a one-shot.
In 'TNT COMICS', the character sported a new costume, however, the original=
 Yellowjacket costume is, by far, the best one.
In Charlton Comics' Zoo Comics # 1 (first, 1940's series, as, there was mor=
e than one series of Charlton's 'Zoo Comics'), Yellowjacket's nephew was pu=
blished in a comics story IN that issue, and he had the same so-called powe=
rs.
I have all of these issues, with the exception of Yellowjacket Comics # 2, =
# 6, and # 9.
These are very early Charlton Comics WELL WORTH HAVING!!!
There is a rare fanzine title, based on comics, where many issues of it, we=
re dedicated to Charlton Comics' superheroes.
Any Chartlton Comics fan should be aware of these. The title is 'CPL', whic=
h stood for 'Contemporary Pictorial Literature.'There were twelve (12) issu=
es, published by Roger Stern and Bob Layton, the late 1980's Ironman artist=
.
Copies of this fanzine are incredibly rare. I personally own CPL issues # 3=
 through # 12, the final issue, and this fanzine is SO RARE, that I only ac=
quired CPL # 3 through # 5 through Bob Layton himself, at the cost of sever=
al hunded dollars.I STILL have not, so far, tracked down CPL # 1 and # 2.
--Phil Latter

      On Friday, March 20, 2015 8:23 PM, "jimludwig jimludwig@bellsouth.net=
 [charlton-l]" <charlton-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
=20=20=20
=20

 =C2=A0   I have lots of Charlton comics that I could provide good cover sc=
ans if you have a list of what you need=20


     On Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:47 AM, "charlton-l@yahoogroups.com" <cha=
rlton-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
=20=20=20

=20=20
Charlton List           Charlton List   Group=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
 6 Messages=20
  Digest #2203            1a    Re: Robert, have you seen these?   by "Darc=
i" darci386          2a    Re: "The Back Seat Super Heroes" query   by     =
   2b    Re: "The Back Seat Super Heroes" query   by laurencevegan2        =
2c    Re: "The Back Seat Super Heroes" query   by laurencevegan2        2d =
   Re: "The Back Seat Super Heroes" query   by          3    Re: [charlton-=
l] Re: "The Back Seat Super Heroes" query   by "wlt4@mindspring.com" langfo=
ur=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
 Messages=20
=20=20=20
 1a=20
=20
   Re: Robert, have you seen these?=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20
 Wed Mar=C2=A018,=C2=A02015 4:23=C2=A0am (PDT) . Posted by:=20
=20
   "Darci" darci386=20=20=20
     Might I ask you for that list of about a dozen publications that don't=
 appear at any reference sites?Thanks,Darci

From: "Quato Jones the.quato@yahoo.com [charlton-l]" <charlton-l@yahoogroup=
s.com>
 To: "charlton-l@yahoogroups.com" <charlton-l@yahoogroups.com>=20
 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [charlton-l] Re: Robert, have you seen these?
=20
=C2=A0 I've been compiling a Charlton Checklist of covers from scans online=
 so my experience tells me that it is a misconception on your part.=C2=A0 I=
'm facing a similar problem. You'd think someone would post high quality sc=
ans of Charlton covers to archive the history of the comics themselves. In =
some cases you have multiple archives using the same blurry low resolution =
images of damaged comics. I've discovered about a dozen Charlton publicatio=
ns that had not been listed at any of the comic book reference site.=20

I'm also aware that no matter what I say, it isn't=C2=A0 what you want to h=
ear. You just want a link to the scans. LOL!
Seriously, I hope you are able to find them. I hope you will also share you=
r find with others to save them from having the same frustration.

Q

From: "laurencevegan2@yahoo.co.uk [charlton-l]" <charlton-l@yahoogroups.com=
>
 To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com=20
 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:31 AM
 Subject: [charlton-l] Re: Robert, have you seen these?
=20
=C2=A0=20
| I didn't really want the issues themselves (I already have the relevant b=
its of some of them photocopied) - I simply wanted to read the whole series=
, including the few installments I missed originally and have never seen!=
=C2=A0
I thought SOMEONE here being a fan of Charlton might be able to provide cop=
ies for a fellow fan. It seems I was wrong! |

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     I have located copies of two of the COMIC READER issues featuring the=
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"Back-Seat Heroes" series by Lou Mougin; issue #199, with Part 2 of the Cha=
rlton=20
 article, covering Thunderbolt, Judomaster, Peacemaker and some of the=20
backup features; and issue #200, containing two installments of the series,=
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covering the Harvey super-heroes and the Archie/Mighty heroes. The articles=
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also include indexes, illustrated with small b&w cover repros, of the comic=
s=20
 covered. The Charlton index in #199 seems to include the whole "action=20
hero" line, though the article part covering the Ditko heroes Capt. Atom an=
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Blue Beetle apparently appeared in the previous issue which I haven't laid=
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hands on. I'm sure I had the whole series of issues at one time, and=20
hopefully still do, but I'm not sure where to look for the rest of them.
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If you want to read either of these I found, let me know and I can make=20
arrangements to send you photocopies. Let me know also if you need just the=
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actual articles, or the indexes also (which were highly informative at the=
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time of original publication, but now cover info available on the Grand=20
Comicbook Database, etc.)=20
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That would be wonderful!

I've looked high and low on the web for some time and just can't find=20
anything at all so I've pretty much given up. Amazing these aren't online=20
anywhere in an age where everything seems to be. This query here was a=20
last-ditch attempt to locate the articles though so any help would be very =
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     From your description there, they both sound like installments I don't=
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y after the Back Seat articles themselves so if you can upload or send as a=
ttachments by e-mail, that would be wonderful!!
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     I know this is like the Stone Age of technology, but I had in mind tak=
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From your description there, they both sound like installments I don't=20
have! Thanks so much for your kindness in seeking them out. I'm only really=
=20
after the Back Seat articles themselves so if you can upload or send as=20
attachments by e-mail, that would be wonderful!!=20

Thanks again for locating what are now historical artifacts.=20

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     The copy center should be able to provide files as well as paper.

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you, if you're willing to provide your address. I don't think I'm set up=20
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ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div=
 class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_3253" dir=3D"ltr"=
>Speaking of Charlton Comics....</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_3259" dir=3D"ltr">For the last several decades, I'=
ve been working hard to complete my collection of original, golden age (194=
0's) collection of Charlton's very first superhero comics - original, not r=
eprints nor scans - of Yellowjacket Comics.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateB=
R" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_3258" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=
=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_3437" dir=3D"ltr">The s=
uperhero Yellowjacket, (which, several decades later, Marvel Comics aped th=
e name, for their Hank Pym superhero by the same name, after 'Antman', 'Gia=
nt Man', and 'Goliath', aped and came out with a difference homage version,=
 of, also....</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">Charlton's Yellowjacket first appeared =
in Yellowjacket Comics # 1, a title which ran for ten issues.</div><div cla=
ss=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6806" dir=3D"ltr">Following which, the super=
hero Yellowjacket, at Charlton Comics, next appeared in 'Jack In The Box' C=
omics # 11 (eleven.)</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
426906201622_6659" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6658" dir=3D"ltr">Basically, it was the SAME TI=
TLE, however, the TITLE of that series CHANGED to 'Jack In The Box' Comics,=
 with # eleven.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6649" dir=3D"ltr=
">Yellowjacket also appeared in 'TNT COMICS' # 1, in the mid 1940's, a titl=
e which was a one-shot.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1426906201622_6657" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" di=
r=3D"ltr">In 'TNT COMICS', the character sported a new costume, however, th=
e original Yellowjacket costume is, by far, the best one.</div><div class=
=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6772" dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6656" di=
r=3D"ltr">In Charlton Comics' Zoo Comics # 1 (first, 1940's series, as, the=
re was more than one series of Charlton's 'Zoo Comics'), Yellowjacket's nep=
hew was published in a comics story IN that issue, and he had the same so-c=
alled powers.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14269062=
01622_6774" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1426906201622_6775" dir=3D"ltr">I have all of these issues, with the=
 exception of Yellowjacket Comics # 2, # 6, and # 9.</div><div class=3D"qtd=
SeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6655" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">These are very early Charlton Comics=
 WELL WORTH HAVING!!!</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">There is a rare fanzine title, =
based on comics, where many issues of it, were dedicated to Charlton Comics=
' superheroes.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">Any Chartlton Comics fan should be awa=
re of these. The title is 'CPL', which stood for 'Contemporary Pictorial Li=
terature.'</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">There were twelve =
(12) issues, published by Roger Stern and Bob Layton, the late 1980's Ironm=
an artist.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14269062016=
22_6654" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" dir=3D"ltr">Cop=
ies of this fanzine are incredibly rare. I personally own CPL issues # 3 th=
rough # 12, the final issue, and this fanzine is SO RARE, that I only acqui=
red CPL # 3 through # 5 through Bob Layton himself, at the cost of several =
hunded dollars.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142690=
6201622_6651" dir=3D"ltr">I STILL have not, so far, tracked down CPL # 1 an=
d # 2.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1426906201622_6=
652" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1426906201622_6653" dir=3D"ltr">--Phil Latter<br><br></div>  <div class=3D"=
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&nbsp;   I've been compiling a Charlton Checklist of covers from scans onli=
ne so my experience tells me that it is a misconception on your part.&nbsp;=
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scans of Charlton covers to archive the history of the comics themselves. I=
n some cases you have multiple archives using the same blurry low resolutio=
n images of damaged comics. I've discovered about a dozen Charlton publicat=
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I'm also aware that no matter what I say, it isn't&nbsp; what you want to h=
ear. You just want a link to the scans. LOL!<br clear=3D"none">
Seriously, I hope you are able to find them. I hope you will also share you=
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             I have located copies of two of the COMIC READER issues featur=
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"Back-Seat Heroes" series by Lou Mougin; issue #199, with Part 2 of the Cha=
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