From odbs@zoomnet.net Wed Jan 31 03:41:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 11:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 68701 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 11:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 11:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.25) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 11:41:30 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-46-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.31.75.47]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA02467 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:41:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002001c08b7a$9d6fe180$2f4b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: Subject: Fw: Great idea! Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:39:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C08B50.9F8C7200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C08B50.9F8C7200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ULP! My first message and I accidently send it to the "unsubscribe" addres= s. Damn yahoo! From: Dave Rawlins=20 To: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: Great idea! Blake: How come nobody ever thought of a list on fanzines before!!!? I gotta admi= t that these days I find myself enjoying the fanzines more than most curren= t comics, so I'm therefore looking forward to a healthy discussion on this = most esoteric aspect of the comics scene. Moreover, I'm proud to have beat= en Lyle Tucker to the punch vis a' vis the first message on this list. YEO= W! Dave Rawlins http://www.zoomnet.net/~odbs/rawlins.htm ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C08B50.9F8C7200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ULP!  My first message = and I=20 accidently send it to the "unsubscribe" address.  Damn yahoo!
 From: Dave Rawlins
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 6:31 AM
Subject: Great idea!

Blake:
How come nobody ever thought= of a=20 list on fanzines before!!!?  I gotta admit that these days I find myse= lf=20 enjoying the fanzines more than most current comics, so I'm therefore looki= ng=20 forward to a healthy discussion on this most esoteric aspect of the comics= =20 scene.  Moreover, I'm proud to have beaten Lyle Tucker to the punch vi= s a'=20 vis the first message on this list.  YEOW!
Dave Rawlins
http://www.zoomnet.net/~o= dbs/rawlins.htm
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C08B50.9F8C7200-- From ltucker@rt66.com Wed Jan 31 07:09:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 15:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 36635 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:48:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 14:48:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:48:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ltucker@rt66.com Received: from [10.1.2.155] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 14:48:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:48:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Had Hoped Message-ID: <9598j7+juho@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 150 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.206.85.53 From: ltucker@rt66.com to have the first post, but I see I'll have to settle for second! GREAT idea, Blake! Looking forward to the discussions to follow. --lyle tucker From deebeeson@webtv.net Wed Jan 31 07:43:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: deebeeson@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 15:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3142 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 15:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 15:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 16:16:08 -0000 Received: from storefull-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.126]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA7B219C for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id HAA26303; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRo+Qe8NzDjNGf5fQHaINyt4kTB9wIVAJg4N3+XJc666rmYZwpecvz49nvr Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:15:03 -0600 (CST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Had Hoped Message-ID: <19321-3A782BF7-231@storefull-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: ltucker@rt66.com's message of Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:48:07 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: deebeeson@webtv.net (Dennis Alan Barger) From: deebeeson@webtv.net Ah, Lyle, the feeling of being first is SO exciting. Too bad you missed. DENNIS ALAN BARGER From dickinsonwalter@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 08:07:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: dickinsonwalter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 16:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 15464 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 15:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 15:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 15:36:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: dickinsonwalter@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.116] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 15:36:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:36:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking Forward. Message-ID: <959be2+vfk0@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 818 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 154.20.90.170 From: dickinsonwalter@yahoo.com My exposure to zines is largely restricted to Comic Book ARtist and the Comics Journal. My reading of Comic Book Artist has lead me to try and seek out fanzines from earlier eras that print obscure info and interviews on important, but all but forgotten artists. This medium has such a rich history and a wealth of talent. Everyone knows about Kirby, Ditko etc., but what about extremely talented folks like Bob Fujitani, John Prentice, Matt Baker etc. Although major names, you rarely see much on them. John B. Cooke is doing a superb job. I hope this list will lead to the dissemination of information about alot of these forgotten artists that lies between the covers of small press wonders. Hopefully some trading too. Good luck with this new list. I really look forward to it. Walter Dickinson Toronto, ON From offbeatarchives@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 08:20:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: offbeatarchives@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 16:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 96860 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 15:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 15:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 15:48:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: offbeatarchives@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 15:48:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:48:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: Great idea! Message-ID: <959c4u+80f4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <002001c08b7a$9d6fe180$2f4b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 109 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 32.97.110.67 From: offbeatarchives@yahoo.com Blake, First the Grand Comics Database, now this...my life is finally complete! Thanks!! Jeff Rader From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Wed Jan 31 08:52:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 16:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 71041 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 16:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 16:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 16:15:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.1.35] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 16:15:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:15:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Graphic Story Magazine #10 Message-ID: <959dmd+kdat@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 105 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 198.96.118.67 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Does anybody on this list have a copy of Graphic Story Magazine #10 that they'd be willing to part with? From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Jan 31 09:34:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 17:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8102 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 16:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 16:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 16:35:34 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23525 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:35:34 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.183] (ppp42.netimaging.com [208.136.132.183]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23439; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:35:31 -0600 Message-Id: <200101311635.KAA23439@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Date: Wed, 31 Jan 01 10:34:03 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm You can subscribe, via e-mail, by sending a blank e-mail to... comicbookfanzines-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >to have the first post, but I see I'll have to settle for >second! GREAT idea, Blake! Looking forward to the discussions >to follow.=20=20 > >--lyle tucker This list is over due - good thinking, Blake! robert beerbohm ****************************** the following was at first a private post to a few old 60s comics buddies, = but somehow it appears appropriate to archive it on this list: >-----=20 >Hi Bart,=20 > G.B. Love passed away on Wednesday night at 10;22 PM. His will=20 >was to=20 >be cremated and his church had a memorial service today and was packed wit= h=20 >most of his local friends as well as some from out of state. He was like p= art=20 >of my family and will be greatly missed by me and all who knew him and I=20 >know that includes you.=20 > > Roy Bonario Roy, Bart - God -what words can express what I feel?=20=20 G.B. got me into comics fandom thru his letter Julie published in JLA 31 - = my first RBCC was 45, my first ad was in #47 with its high energy color cov= er of the Spirit by one Buddy Saunders, with all of its 10 lines of stuff f= or sale. It was a dinky ad on the half page which followed several full pa= ges from a couple guys from Houston named Roy Bonario and Marc Schooley. T= heir last three lines was a cryptic announcement about "Houstoncon in '67"= and I went - all 14 years old of me. An ad in RBCC had me send off for a sub to Star*Studded which had a write u= p of the 1966 version. I was hooked - I turned 15 at that 1967 Houston sho= w. June 17 is my birthday. I think there was all of 112 of us there, right= ? G.B. Love was the first "direct distributor" for fandom - with his innovati= ve (for us then anyway) Ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe" buying 50-100 copies of fan= zines to resell as well as reprinting "must have" gems like Alter Ego 5 7 8= , etc.=20=20 Phil and then Bud learned a bit from G.B.'s initial brain child.=20=20 None of us knew the man had been hand collating RBCC as thick as it got wit= h what God had given him to work with. For a long time RBCC was the center= of fandom. G. B. Love will be remembered for growing "our" family. Those= were fun days. bob beerbohm and Bud Plant sent this to me: From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com To: Bob Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com To: b bush" ; "roy bonario" ; "Buddy Saunders" ; beerbohm@technetwork.com ;= Cc: "Bud Plant" ; "Jerry Bails" ; "Chuck Wooley"=20 Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:13 AM Thanks for including me in the sad new of G.B.'s passing. Although I hadn't= heard much about him in the last few years, I hope that he kept his sense = of wonder and his enthusiasm for comics. He truly was responsible for so ma= ny fans growing and staying interested in the hobby. The RBCC was also a milestone in my comics history. Like Bob, I also starte= d with #45. I had just met John Barrett, Jim Buser and a couple other frien= ds in San Jose. They gave me a one-page flyer for RBCC which I ordered from= . I also fondly remember Raymond Miller's specials, including one on Qualit= y Comics and another on Timely. I read them ragged, those windows into a an= other time that somehow contemporary comics had come from. I'm just now com= pleting my Quality runs, after 35 years. The RBCC put us all in touch with one another, helped conventions like Hous= ton, Dallas, Oklahoma and New York get off the ground. I started advertisin= g some duplicate comics early on. Once I got started selling underground co= mics and fanzines, the RBCC was THE place to advertise until it was slowly = eclipsed by the Comics Buyer's Guide. Truly, it gave me my start in mail or= der that evolved into what I still do today. But the RB was always a lot more fun than the early TBG, with those insert = pages and special color covers, with fan renderings and even some pros. Wit= h so many ads for great old zines where we could learn more.=20 Thank you GB, for your hard work and your enthusiasm that brought so much t= o our lives. My best to all your guys, my old friends. Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 Blake, email Bud to join this list - he just might. ask him if it is OK to= sign him on as a daily digest kind of guy *********** a few more old friends checked in: Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... Sent: 1/26/20 5:15 AM Received: 1/30/01 6:35 PM From: roy bonario, DROSEV@aol.com To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com Bob, Thanks for your letter. It expresses what all of us feel about the= =20 guy who introduced most of us to Comic Fandom. He spent his last 30 years=20 here in Houston and made a lot of friends here who as I said previously wil= l=20 miss him a lot and never forget him. He was a very independent person who h= ad=20 made his own way in spite of a handicap that he didn't want anyone to=20 consider. And we didn't, we gave him hell just like everybody else and he=20 gave it right back. He spent most of his holiday dinners with me and my=20 family and they'll be a little less happier without him. However, we old=20 timers will always have our memories of him and the others who have left th= e=20 scene and the great, early years of comics fandom that will never be again. Roy=20 *************************** Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... Sent: 1/29/20 5:23 PM Received: 1/30/01 6:34 PM From: Don Maris, donmaris@wt.net To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com Bob, Thanks for the info. I am very sad and will say a prayer for his soul. Did anyone tell The Comic Buyers guide about G.B.'s death?? Thanks again, ************* and here is the first announcement bart Bush sent me a couple weeks ago: Subject: GCD Chat - Some sad news, friends! Sent: 1/17/20 8:33 AM Received: 1/16/01 5:10 PM From: b bush, bbush@mmcable.com Reply-To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no Bart here; I was just informed that G.B. Love, one of the 'fathers' of Comic Book Fandom, is in critical shape, after being in a serious car accident a few weeks ago, and now has developed pnemonia and may not make it much longer. I'll keep everyone posted, but in the meantime, a prayer from each of us would be in order. Thank you. ****************************** GB, Our prayers are with you always. Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Jan 31 09:53:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 17:53:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 48502 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 17:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 17:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 17:07:25 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17473 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:07:24 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.183] (ppp42.netimaging.com [208.136.132.183]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17359 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:07:22 -0600 Message-Id: <200101311707.LAA17359@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Graphic Story Magazine #10 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 01 11:05:54 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Does anybody on this list have a copy of Graphic Story >Magazine #10 that they'd be willing to part with? that the Bode or Toth issue? bob beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From caputon66@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 10:03:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 18:03:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 21579 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 17:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 17:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ml.egroups.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 17:17:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caputon66@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 17:17:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:17:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: Great idea! Message-ID: <959hbk+ebqs@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <959c4u+80f4@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1267 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 12.27.104.2 From: caputon66@yahoo.com Blake, This is a great idea! I have many old fanzines, so I'd be glad to contribute any information to the list that I can. I also enjoy the fanzines more than comics these days, and love many of the old ones such as the Comic Reader, RBCC, Fantastic Fanzine, the Collector, Alter Ego, etc. My first exposure to the world of fanzines was seeing the cover of the Comic Reader # 92 in the window of a bookstore I used to go to. I remember the store was closed (it was on a sunday) and I had to go back the next day to see what that little pamphlet with Adam Warlock on the cover was all about. I was amazed at the news and coming comics sections and looked forward to it every month (I eventually got a subscription). I still have that issue in my collection, and my interest in the history of comics grew from there. My earliest interest in the past though came around 1970, when I purchased the paperback version of All in Color for a Dime in a candy store/lunchonette. I was fascinated with the stories of long gone characters, companies and the people who created them. I devoured that book and soon after I recieved Steranko's History of Comics as a gift. These were great introductions to the rich history of the medium. Nick Caputo From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Wed Jan 31 12:51:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 20:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 87582 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 20:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 20:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mk.egroups.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 20:24:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2001 19:48:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:47:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Graphic Story Magazine #10 Message-ID: <959q3m+5oqr@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200101311707.LAA17359@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 444 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.43.232.41 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Does anybody on this list have a copy of Graphic Story > >Magazine #10 that they'd be willing to part with? > > > that the Bode or Toth issue? > > bob beerbohm > Graphic Story Magazine #10 has got a Bode cover and the Toth interview. I've got the last issue of Fantasy Illustrated and all the other issues of Graphic Story Magazine, but I can't find a copy of #10. From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 12:55:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 20:55:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12692 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 20:30:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 20:30:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web705.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.25) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 20:30:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13757 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2001 20:30:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010131203023.13756.qmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.7.42] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:30:23 PST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:30:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: I was a subscriber of the early '60s zines & wrote fror CREEPY, EERIE, & VAMPIRELLA in the '70s... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" This is a sequel to CONJURELLA, posted at: http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/conjurella.html ------------------------------------------------------- UNAUTHORIZED CONJURELLA: Housemates With Naomi Schechter, Ph.d, Activist-Psychologist With "Psychologists for Social Responsibility" by T. Casey Brennan Copyright 2000 by T. Casey Brennan Within, there lurked the memory. But this was 1970. This was T. Casey Brennan at age 22, on a bus bound for Ann Arbor, fledgling comic book writer for the Warren Publishing Company titles, CREEPY, EERIE, and VAMPIRELLA, hell-bent on making his presence known to Ann Arbor's now infamous campus left. This was 1970: it would be a Tetragrammatonic 26 years before I would write the legend of CONJURELLA, posted on the Internet initially by Anathema Research of Austin, Texas in 1996, then picked up repeatedly and posted and reposted, with and without authorization, by a wide variety of Netizens, intent on linking it to their own respective interests and causes. Twenty-six years before CONJURELLA would link our family to the JFK assassination as our alleged cousin, Howard Leslie Brennan, with his testimony before the Warren Commission, never could. This was 1970: I hated the Vietnam war, hated the draft, loved the peace movement, loved the peace demonstrators and the love-ins, loved the beads and the beards and the flower children. But I feared the psychedelic drugs, and I feared the Communists; maybe, just maybe, I even feared the "Communist conspiracy" I had been told so much about, since boyhood. This was 1970: it had been a scant three years since I had resigned, after a little over a year, from the Port Huron, Michigan chapter of the John Birch Society (I had a membership card; was it Chapter 308? - I don't remember anymore), headed by local right-wing dentist, E. James Shay. I had joined in late 1965, at the invitation of Thaddeus B. Vance, who, like my late father, sat on the St. Clair County Board of Education. My parents were William James Brennan and paperback book author Alice Brennan, both Michigan school board officials and tax opponents. My late mother had begun this process when, in the early 1950s, she took the position of Secretary (and CEO) of the Swamp School District, Kenockee Township School District #4, one of the last K-8, kindergarten through eighth grade, school districts in the state. Soon, my late father had a similar position of authority on the St. Clair County Board of Education, and the two of them set off hand in hand to keep property taxes down, and the one-room little red schoolhouses open for as long as the voters would put up with it. Inevitably, they attracted the attention of the 1950s ultra-right in that regard, and soon we were all deluged with pamphlets from prolific McCarthyites coast to coast. I had begun school in kindergarten at Swamp School in September of 1953, at age 5. But, I suppose, partly because I could already read and write, and partly because my mother was her boss, my teacher, Miss Nolan, advanced me at once to the first grade, still at the age of 5. Hence, I entered high school at the tender age of 13. The Swamp School was a one-room building on a gravel road, technically in Emmett, Michigan. Traditionally, our high-school students, after graduating from the eighth grade, attended school in neighboring Yale, Michigan. But by the time 1961 had rolled around, and I had graduated grade school, the Yale high school district was demanding that we annex before they would take our high school students. For that, the Swamp School would be closed, taxes would go sky high, and our children would henceforth attend grade school in Yale. My parents would have none of it, and clearly, they were in a political position to make deals. So, deals they made. It was arranged that a local farm couple, Jim and Mary O'Neill, would drive the handful of high-school students that the Swamp School produced each year, north on M-19, through Yale, to Peck High School in Sanilac County, later to become infamous as the home of convicted Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh. Before long, the 13 year old high schooler version of T. Casey Brennan was developing his own independent personality and interests, sort of, and those interests included comic book collecting, and disseminating right-wing propaganda for the host of ultraconservative groups which had expressed support for my parents positions as property tax foes. So my pile of special things included pamphlets from the John Birch Society (as headed by Robert Welch), the Cinema Educational Guild (by Myron Fagan, who claimed credit for providing the Dies Committee with the names of Hollywood Communists, though popular history would later, inaccurately, assign this role to Senator Joe McCarthy, who only investigated alleged Communists in government, not Hollywood), the Conservative Society of America (from Kent and Phoebe Courtney), the Christian Crusade (from Billy James Hargis, smeared in the 1980s as a homosexual lover to some of his followers, though inexplicably, I am told he has no recollection that these charges were ever made against him), the 20th Century Reformation Hour (from Carl McIntyre, who, much to my chagrin, became an establishment-sanctioned spokesman for the pro-Vietnam hawks during the Nixon Administration), and the Christian Anticommunism Crusade (from Dr. Fred G. Schwartz, whose New Orleans office shared a building with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee)...with early prototypes of comic book fanzines such as ALTER-EGO, THE COMIC READER, THE KOMIX, and THE ROCKET'S BLAST-COMICOLLECTOR. Still, I had resisted actual membership in these right-wing groups until my graduation from Peck High School in 1965. Then, in the fall of that year, at the invitation of St. Clair County Board of Education member Thaddeus B. Vance, I attended an introductory meeting of the Birchers at something called The Round Building, on Pine Grove Avenue, in Port Huron, Michigan. A man named Robert Lowry, who held the office of Coordinator with the John Birch Society, briefed us on our responsibilities as Birchers-to-be. I joined, and stayed until 1967. And it was with this background, I proceeded, at the invitation of Larry B., of 30 Hayden Hall, East Quad Residential College, to meet with him, his cronies, and the now semi-famous Naomi Schechter, Ph.d, now, in the year 2000, with the activist group, PSYCHOLOGISTS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. In thirty years, I would set down the plans for an unauthorized article on Naomi. But not yet. This was 1970. I had met Larry B. in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, shortly after my twenty-second birthday, at a campground, with my parents. Actually, my dad had met him first. My dad had attended school at the University of Michigan in the 1920s, but never graduated. Though he had no sympathy for the campus left, he had, I suppose, a sense of nostalgia about Ann Arbor, as most ex-Ann Arborites do. Larry B. had introduced himself to my dad as an Ann Arborite, and that, to my dad, had been sufficient to offset the stigma of the campus activism which Larry advocated. Larry told stories of Baba Ram Das, the White Panther Party, the Students for a Democratic Society, and one of his teachers, Naomi Schechter, closely associated, he said, with the campus left, and then working on her Ph.d thesis. And he invited me to come to Ann Arbor, to stay in East Quad. So this was 1970: this was T. Casey Brennan, now on a bus bound for Ann Arbor, intent on imposing his invited, but unwanted, presence on Ann Arbor's campus left. The day before I left, I had watched the movie WOODSTOCK, at Port Huron's Family Theater on Military Street. I was prepared. These campus left guys were great, I decided. I had taken the bus from Port Huron to Detroit, and changed buses in Detroit for Ann Arbor. I have a beard now, anathema in my ancestral home of Avoca, Michigan, and I am glad to be in Detroit, where I won't be hassled for having it. From the bus, I flash the peace sign to a black cab driver. He returns it. I'm part of the movement, man. Larry B. has advised me to disembark at the Michigan Union, a scheduled stop of the Greyhound on which I ride. Had I seen the Greyhound Station on Huron Street first, with it's standard clientele of drunks and beggars, I may have received a different impression of Ann Arbor. I was later to work at the Huron Street Greyhound station, from November 1973 till March 1974, when I moved here, as had been my intent, even then. The Greyhound Station had been managed, in those days, by Red Simpson. He had two sons, John and George. George, they said, had disappeared for about a year, and returned, with a sex change operation, as "Gail" Simpson. The bus drivers had been mortified, always referring to Gail as "He...she...it" in the course of a conversation. But this is 1970: I am not to see the Greyhound station yet, nor will I actually move to Ann Arbor for another three years. Just before the Michigan Union bus stop, I see Larry B. walking on the street. I wave to him, but he does not see me. So I proceed, on his direction, through Ann Arbor's tumultuous diag of 1970, bound for East Quad. The "Tent City" protest, in which protesters pitched pup tents on the diag, is in full swing. Soon, police will sweep it away, on the advice that a hepatitis carrier has spread disease throughout the community. I arrive at 30 Hayden Hall, East Quadrangle Residential College, but Larry is not there. Soon he arrives, beaming. He is, he says, delighted that I have accepted his invitation. His letters have told me much about the now semi-famous Naomi Schechter. A Jewish girl whose parents, he said, were both registered Communists; an activist, a psychology teacher, highly intelligent, but with severe acne. Some years later, she will undergo facial surgery to correct the problem. He had made it clear in his letters that she wanted to meet me. I had envisioned a romance. Boys will be boys. I had envisioned myself, T. Casey Brennan, fledgling comic book writer for CREEPY and EERIE, with my own Joan Baez, whose parents were both registered Communists, leading the campus leftists to victory over the supporters of the Vietnam war, and my very recent, former friends, the John Birch Society. But that was not to be. Some time between August of 1970, when Larry B. had invited me to East Quad at the Upper Peninsula campground, and October 1970, when I actually made the journey, Larry had relayed the bad news: Naomi had taken on a live-in lover at her home on Ellsworth Road in Ypsilanti, where I was to stay, briefly, intermittently, with my stays at 30 Hayden Hall, East Quad. Larry described him as "a silk-screener named Joe". Joe had an Italian surname; I don't remember it. He was, as I recall, one of the early directors of Ozone House, a still existing Ann Arbor group which supplies teen-age runaways with food, clothing, and anti-drug pamphlets. Joe alleged that his uncle had been murdered by the Mafia. Larry alleged that Joe was one of the biggest drug dealers in Washtenaw County, but, he said, just marijuana and hashish. Despite all that, Larry B., and his room-mate, Dave, determined that my stay at East Quad should include my first experience with that staple diet of campus demonstrators, marijuana. So, that night at East Quad, I smoked marijuana for the first time. I smoke some that night, and the following morning, then wander around the campus area of South University, determined that I have now incurred permanent brain damage from it. In addition to my comic scripts for CREEPY and EERIE, I have also written some short stories for a magazine called LISTEN, edited by Francis A. Soper and Twyla Schlotthauer. My checks say Narcotics Education, Inc., but it is really a vehicle of the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Washington, D.C. They are anti-drug, anti-cigarettes, anti-meat-eating, anti-everything. Later, in the mid-1970s, when I am living at Xanadu Co-op on 1811 Washtenaw, marijuana salesmen will call them and tell them that I have been "caught" smoking marijuana (which they have sold me), as part of an on-going attempt by the campus left to sabotage my career. Undaunted, I write a pro-vegetarian story called "I Love Meat", a satire more derived from my VAMPIRELLA stories than anything else (see Warren Publishing's VAMPIRELLA magazines #s 5, 17-21, and 109, and Harris Comics VAMPIRELLA OF DRAKULON #1-3, reprinted in 1996, and the trade paperback, VAMPIRELLA: TRANSCENDING TIME & SPACE, co-authored with Steve Englehart). It's about a literal meat-vampire, a meat-addict: Soper rejects it, but it ends up published in 1977 issues of VEGETARIAN TIMES and a short-lived HIGH TIMES imitator called FLASH (no relation to the DC comic of the same name), in the latter case, accompanied by an illustration from legendary underground comic artist, Robert Williams. A quote from the story, beginning "Poor animals..." has now been picked up by vegetarian activists on the Internet world-wide...astute Net-searchers will find it posted widely on the Net and Usenet, listing me with the greatest philosophers of history. What's more, Soper later forgave me for being "caught" by the Xanadu marijuana peddlers, and published my publicity stunt essays about being an award winning comic book writer wanting to take smoking out of comic books in his early 1980s companion to LISTEN, a newsletter called SMOKE SIGNALS: the result being that the articles were entered into CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE, Sept. 28, 1982, Vol. 128, No. 131, page S12435, and commented upon in the U.N. World Health Organization magazine from Geneva, WORLD HEALTH, October 1983, page 30, and January-February 1986, page 9, issues; and THAT culminating in a Proclamation, dated December 22, 1989, carrying the Great Seal of the State of Arkansas, and the signatures of then-Governor Bill Clinton and his Secretary of State, designating January 1990 as T. CASEY BRENNAN MONTH in the State of Arkansas. All because of my association with Francis A. Soper, whom I then believed. So I sit with a girl I just met, by a campus building in Ann Arbor, the second day of my trip, and tell her she must never smoke marijuana. It causes permanent brain damage, I tell her. Amusedly, she agrees, and promises. I go on to say, I may contact LISTEN magazine, and see if they can arrange some kind of speaking tour. Or, maybe, I'm thinking, the John Birchers, but I don't tell her that. That part is secret, must be, cannot be told in my quest to woo the campus left of Ann Arbor. Soon, we meet Naomi and Joe. I am to stay there for a few days, as per our agreement. The house is on Ellsworth Road, Ypsilanti. Joe produces two forms of hashish, Pakistani and Nepalese, he says. Naomi says they are afraid to smoke the Nepalese hashish: "It's too intense," she says. Later, Joe takes me to his silk screen shop, which he owns. I think it's called The Silk Screen Shop. He tells me that the form of printing called silk-screening produces, not just t-shirts with cartoons on them, but also the illustrations that graced 1970-style pin-ball machines. Naomi is then working on her Ph.d. thesis. She gives me a battery of tests, for practice, she says, including the standard Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory test, as well as something she has invented, using the Rider deck of Tarot cards, as designed by Arthur Edward Waite, much preferred by hippies of that era. Interestingly, in a classic anachronism, the early 1970s television program KUNG FU, starring David Carradine as a pseudo-Chinese Shaolin priest, used the Rider deck in an episode set in the 1860s, wielded by his guest-star father, one-time Dracula portrayer, John Carradine, in spite of the fact that the Rider deck was not produced until the 1920s. I ask Naomi about the police, "the pligs, myan", as we called them then. "They don't come out here unless we call them," she says. I take Naomi's tests, then smoke the Nepalese hash that she has recommended against. I have a dream about a world covered with green foliage, with men with green helmets walking about in it, then go outside, thinking I am going to throw up. Joe comes out, offering sympathy, but in a moment, I am okay. I take a ride with Naomi in her jalopy. As we pull out of driveways, I watch, repeatedly, for oncoming traffic. Naomi spots me doing this, and curses me. "I thought men were supposed to help girls drive!" I say. "Well," Naomi says, "You've been improperly trained." I meet Naomi's friends. One is a man named Tom. He says he owns a health food something-or-other on Liberty Street. He has fluffy curly hair, but no mustache or beard. Joe has a mustache. One day, we wake up and Tom is annoyed by buzzing flies sticking to the fly paper in Naomi's living room. He applies his lit cigarette lighter. "Better that they die that way, than slowly," Tom says. Another is a traveller from England, a man with his long hair in a bun, like the old ladies I had known in my boyhood in Avoca, Michigan. He tries to be friendly, but I see him as one of those members of the Communist conspiracy the John Birchers have told me about. He tells me of his efforts to organize the cockneys in England, but, he says, he is thwarted. He says they admire the upper-class English accent. Naomi takes me aside later and says: "We don't know what he does. He may kill people." Another is a pretty girl who brings a box of slides, which she presents to me and Joe. She says, "There is a picture of me in there..." She giggles. "Well," she says, "I don't know..." Then she giggles some more. She leaves. Joe and I light joints, and set to work, examining the box of a thousand slides, one by one, looking for the implied nude picture of the girl who has just left. One by one, we examine each boring vacation slide, shake our heads, and move on. It just isn't there. We have been tricked. I meet Larry B.'s friends. Larry takes me to the Halfway Inn, in East Quad. He points out a student with a picture of a clenched fist on the back of his denim jacket. Larry B. says, "Casey, you see that guy? He was arrested at a demonstration for throwing a rock at a cop. And he didn't do it!" Larry also points out an East Quad drug dealer called Strike. "Strike's a prick," says Larry B., "Strike works directly under Joe." Later, Strike, a student with longish hair, a beard, and a furtive look, tells me in a hallway: "Everybody here is out to get me." And, through Strike, I have had my first glimpse of the apolitical vendettas of Ann Arbor's campus left, so intent on victimizing their own. Later, Naomi tells me she may not complete her Ph.d thesis. I embark on a campaign of persuasion, conceiving various approaches for talking her into it. It will be, she says, if she finishes it, a treatise on the Tarot cards and psychology. Following repeated phone calls along this line, I finally conceive of this: "Maybe girls shouldn't have Ph.d's," I say. "That does it," she says, "I'm going to do it." And she did. And now she is a semi-famous activist with Psychologists for Social Responsibility, following in the footsteps of her registered Communist parents; her friend Larry B. (and his hero, Baba Ram Das); her friend Tom, who sold health food and burned flies with his lighter; her friend with his hair in bun who may have killed people; and her boyfriend Joe, who ran a silk-screen shop and Ozone House, and whose uncle was killed by the Mafia. This was the memory that lurked within: Before Naomi, Joe, and Larry B. giving me marijuana and hashish in 1970, there had been J.H. Earnshaw giving me LSD in the late 1950s. We had met him through David Ferrie, who died during the Garrison investigation. Menacingly, Earnshaw had claimed association with the CIA's illegal MK-ULTRA experimentation program, begun in 1953, and investigated by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, before a Senate Committee, in 1977. My dad's interests had included not merely school taxes and right-wing politics, but also hypnosis, which was Earnshaw's specialty. Earnshaw, an Osteopathic physician in Port Hope, Michigan, reportedly died in 1984, though he continued to be listed in the American Osteopathic Association Yearbook long after that. On November 22, 1963, Earnshaw and David Ferrie kidnapped me from the Yale, Michigan airport, with the assistance of my late father, and forced me to initiate the firing from the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dallas. That was what I wrote about in "Conjurella". Lee was innocent. I was not. And this was the last memory of Naomi, not the LAST memory, but the memory that lingered, the way the memory of my single shot in Dallas, before I collapsed, before David Ferrie assumed command of the weapon and resumed firing, could not. Naomi shows me a crystal by her window, that creates flickering lights and colors. It hangs by the couch on which I sleep; I do not sleep with her, the presence of Joe has seen to that. But in the morning on that day, whatever day it was, Naomi comes to awaken me. She stands over me in the flickering light of the crystal, as the effect of the Nepalese hash lingers on in my unaccustomed brain. I watch as she tosses her head, leans from side to side, and strikes poses in the window light of morning. In my fear of Nepalese hashish and Communist conspirators, in my apprehension of the vendetta against Strike, and the man with his hair in a bun, and Joe whose uncle was killed by the Mafia, and her Communist parents, I have almost forgotten how pretty she is. But now, her long curly hair glistens in the morning light, in the light of the crystal, and she fans it out like a veil, as she weaves and tosses. "NAOMI!" I say, with awe. And I need say no more. She knows. "That will last a long time," she says. And it did. 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Jan 31 13:45:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 21:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 80683 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 21:25:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 21:25:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 22:26:38 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.4c.102a7bc7 (3314) for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:25:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4c.102a7bc7.27a9dcc4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:25:24 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] I was a subscriber of the early '60s zines & wrote fr... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 1/31/01 12:57:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com writes: Um, T. Casey, this has what to do with fanzines? There's already way too much of this on the internet. Let's stick to fanzines here, or if you want to talk about Jim Warren or something else that's not a thousand yards off the trail. Okay? From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Jan 31 14:12:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 22:12:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 75707 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 21:52:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 21:52:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 22:53:10 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.87.6487ee2 (15880) for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from web51.aolmail.aol.com (web51.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.12]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:51:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:51:59 EST Subject: RBCC To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <87.6487ee2.27a9e2ff@aol.com> From: srowecanoe@aol.com Hey Jim, is another RBCC coming out in 2001? Steven Rowe From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Jan 31 14:25:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 31 Jan 2001 22:25:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 38034 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 22:10:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2001 22:10:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 22:10:17 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23497 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:10:16 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.162] (ppp21.netimaging.com [208.136.132.162]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23411 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:10:14 -0600 Message-Id: <200101312210.QAA23411@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Graphic Story Magazine #10 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 01 16:08:47 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >--- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: >> >Does anybody on this list have a copy of Graphic Story >> >Magazine #10 that they'd be willing to part with? >> >> >> that the Bode or Toth issue? >> >> bob beerbohm >> > >Graphic Story Magazine #10 has got a Bode cover and the Toth interview. >I've got the last issue of Fantasy Illustrated and all the other issues >of Graphic Story Magazine, but I can't find a copy of #10. I remember it going out of print almost immediately back then - hard to find since almost Day One. I haven't seen a copy for sale for over 10 years. bob beerbohm, who hopes this list stays on topic ALWAYS From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 17:05:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 01:05:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 96160 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 01:05:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 01:05:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 01:05:14 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.93]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G820CL00.KGO for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:05:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3A78E070.4CF81F9@home.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Welcome, One And All! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Please let me say thank you all so much for joining the list. I am stunned to see we already have over 50 members on a list that isn't even 24 hours old. Clearly, this shows that such a consolidated forum for this subject was needed/desired. As someone has said, the "fanzine" (or pro-zine) Golden Age has returned, with books like ALTER EGO and COMIC BOOK ARTIST seemingly outselling a lot of comics. But, as someone stated here, I truly look forward to conversing/uncovering all of the different comic book fanzines over the past decades, large or small - pro or fan. It's great to see that we have some "fanzine heavy-hitters" on the list, and I hope everyone jumps in. Feel free to introduce yourself, if you wish. Clearly Mr. Brennan has set the bar high in terms of VOLUME when it comes to introductions (just kidding T.C.), but you can make it as short, or as long as you want, or just sit back and enjoy the ride. I envy many of you, as I was only born in 1970, and didn't start collecting comics, much less fanzines, until 1979. In tried and true tradition, I built my own "fanzine" around 1984 and 1985; a glorified AMAZING HEROES, with news blurb, reviews and my monthly top ten comics list. The one amusing thing my "fanzine" had was my compiled checklists of Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby and Bill Everett. Torn from the pages of OVERSTREET (Yikes!) and from my meagre collection (not much Everett there at the time for a 14 year-old in 1984), it still makes for interesting reading, compared against the Ditko Checklists on my DITKO LOOKED UP Site of today. Also, my "fanzine", printed on some horrible IBM word processing program like WORDSTAR, had my first ever attempts at ranking the Lee/Ditko Spider-Man issues, much like I did on the Ditko-l and SilverAge_GoldenAge lists this past summer. Back then, it was more of a Stanley Cup Playoffs race, than a true ranking. I can't remember the first fanzine I touched, but it could have been DITKOMANIA by Bill Hall; one that truly symbolized the fanzine as a personal love affair with the medium. Naturally, most of my fanzine purchased were based around Ditko, so WITZEND, THE COMICS, COMIC CRUSADER and the like were soon to follow. It's been in the last three years that I've really gone nuts getting into fanzines. Thanks to E-Bay, us Canadians are no longer stuck with the dregs that would make their way up here. I love the new versions of ALTER EGO and COMIC BOOK ARTIST, but it was trying to chase down rare MR. A. appearances in the past weeks, from fanzines I had never heard of before, that really prompted the creation of this list. So, the mandate of this list is clear - talk about fanzines, adzines, prozines until you're blue in the face. Talk about the people who created them, and feel free to sell/trade/buy with people on the list. Also, for those who currently have web-sites selling fanzines and the like, whether they are yours or others, feel free to put up a link to your site in the BOOKMARKS section of the group at.... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/links I'm not against a LITTLE rampant commecialism. The "fanzine" pioneers had to rely on word of mouth, and other promotional activities, and there's no reason the 'Net can't be another addition in that regard. Forty years ago, when the first fanzines were being put out, who would have thought we'd all end up here? Thanks again, all! :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Jan 31 17:40:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 01:40:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 92718 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 01:40:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 01:40:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 01:40:20 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.24.108e2319 (10052) for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:40:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <24.108e2319.27aa187d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:40:13 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] RBCC To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com I'm working on it now. I sent the listing to Diamond Previews 3 weeks ago so I hope to get it out by early May. It will include an article about G.B. Love, who passed away two weeks ago. I wrote a piece about him for Comics Buyer's Guide which should be in the issue they just mailed.--Jim Van Hise From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 17:54:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 01:54:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 12034 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 01:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 01:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 01:54:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.28] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 01:54:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:54:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzines Message-ID: <95afl4+tmda@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1744 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.155 From: flash14221@yahoo.com What a great group! I too was saddened to hear of the loss of G.B. Love. He was a great example of the earliest fan. Very few who read RBCC knew of his handicaps. Those who did held him in the highest esteem. I've been a fanzine fan, mainly as a lurker since that first time in study hall back in High School when a friend showed me Alter Ego #4 and a few other mimio zines. I think it was '64 , no, maybe "62. Anyway I was hooked! I sent in my quarters and stamps and eagerly watched my mailbox ! I've been a little sad to see the demise of the fanzine. Internet and web sites have pretty much taken over. I've been hunting on Ebay , and have been able to get a hold of a few ( at great prices I should add!) There still are a few zines being printed out there. I publish MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER," Reviving the Fanzine Tradition from the Golden Age of Fandom!" , and have contributed art and articles for Rich Croxton's zine TALES FROM THE ATTIC . I've been in contact with Ronn Foss, another Fandom Founder. He designed the logo for MM#2 and is writing an on going column "Brothers of the Brush" , about early Fandom and the men ( and boys and girls!) who made it what it has grown to become. He has also given me some unpublished work to present. Issue #1 has The Olympian!. Issue #3 will have "Virgin Sacrifice". Issue #1 has a dedication to Steve Ditko, including pictures ( I was good friends with a woman who went to school with Steve back in Johnstown PA, and she had High School yearbook pics. Steve was on the JHS baseball team!) If anyone on this list is aware of any other fanzine still around I'd be very interested in obtaining them. Also any old ones that are just waiting to find a new home? Best, Gord From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 17:55:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 01:55:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14928 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 01:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 01:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 02:56:56 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.93]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G822P000.IKL for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:55:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3A78EC42.13CFCD7B@home.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:55:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Before I try tonight and compile a decent-sized starter list, can anyone here who has been researching this stuff for awhile provide a list of ALL (or as close as anyone has gotten) fanzines throughout the last 40 years? I've seen Jerry and Will Schelly talk about the history of them in various introductions, but I don't know if I've ever seen an actual list, which would detail the name of the 'zine, how many issues, the start and end years, and the person publishing it? One of the features on the web-site for this mailing list is a FILES section, where you can upload jpgs/gifs of whatever rare thing to which you have access, but you can also upload text files, and I would like to gather together an on-going list detailing the elements I spoke of in the above paragraph. What better place than here, for someone to come and find a listing of every fanzine, adzine, prozine - no matter the print run or whether it was published forty years ago or yesterday. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 18:05:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 02:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 58872 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 02:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 02:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 02:05:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.64] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 02:05:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:05:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: List ? Message-ID: <95ag9t+f9md@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 265 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.155 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I know Bill Schelly has about the largest file around on fanzines. Maybe we could get him on line? In the meantime, we could download covers onto the files section. I've got a lot of scans ( many from Ebay, not from my own collection .)that I could but up. Gord From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 18:14:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 02:14:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 80571 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 02:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 02:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 03:15:10 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.93]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G823JE00.JMA for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:14:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3A78F083.EB77032B@home.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:13:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bill Schelly / Scans To The Files Section (Was Re : List ?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Gord wrote : > I know Bill Schelly has about the largest file around on fanzines. > Maybe we could get him on line? I did invite him today to join us, so hopefully he'll check his e-mail soon and come aboard. > In the meantime, we could download covers onto the files section. > I've got a lot of scans ( many from Ebay, not from my own collection > .)that I could but up. Go nuts, my friend. If anyone else has stuff to upload, go ahead, and if you think the File is too big, there are .jpg/gif "reducer" programs out there which can shave alot of memory off of a .jpg without terribly reducing the quality. An alternative to those who don't have a "reducer" is to send me the scan at ditko37@home.com , and I could reduce it and upload it. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From preist@canada.com Wed Jan 31 20:21:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: preist@canada.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 04:21:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 93728 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 04:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 04:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ef.egroups.com) (10.1.2.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 04:21:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: preist@canada.com Received: from [10.1.10.95] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 04:21:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 04:21:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: gotta ask ... Message-ID: <95ao8f+c4qf@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 324 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.254.151 From: preist@canada.com the first two fanzines i ever got were Comic Crusader and ... i forget. Whatever happened to Martin Greim? the other one was produced on a ditto machine by Mike Raub - i spent hours reading every word, i was so happy to see that someone else collected comics - whatever happened to Mike Raub? thanks for listening, Paul From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Jan 31 20:31:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 04:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 35495 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 04:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 04:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 04:31:26 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27597 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:31:25 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.187] (ppp46.netimaging.com [208.136.132.187]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27511 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:31:23 -0600 Message-Id: <200102010431.WAA27511@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] gotta ask ... Date: Wed, 31 Jan 01 22:29:54 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >the first two fanzines i ever got were Comic Crusader and ... i=20 >forget. Whatever happened to Martin Greim? the other one was produced=20 >on a ditto machine by Mike Raub - i spent hours reading every word, i=20 >was so happy to see that someone else collected comics - whatever=20 >happened to Mike Raub? >thanks for listening, >Paul Mike Raub reopened a comic book store in Norwalk, Conn with his wife., I th= ink it was - doing OK again. I see him at NYC shows. bob beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Jan 31 20:37:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 04:37:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 49062 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 04:37:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 04:37:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 05:38:11 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30330 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:37:03 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.187] (ppp46.netimaging.com [208.136.132.187]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30244 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:37:01 -0600 Message-Id: <200102010437.WAA30244@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines Date: Wed, 31 Jan 01 22:35:32 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Before I try tonight and compile a decent-sized starter list, >can anyone here who has been researching this stuff for awhile >provide a list of ALL (or as close as anyone has gotten) fanzines >throughout the last 40 years? > I've seen Jerry and Will Schelly talk about the history of >them in various introductions, but I don't know if I've ever seen >an actual list, which would detail the name of the 'zine, how >many issues, the start and end years, and the person publishing it? > One of the features on the web-site for this mailing list is >a FILES section, where you can upload jpgs/gifs of whatever rare >thing to which you have access, but you can also upload text files, >and I would like to gather together an on-going list detailing >the elements I spoke of in the above paragraph. > What better place than here, for someone to come and find a >listing of every fanzine, adzine, prozine - no matter the print run >or whether it was published forty years ago or yesterday. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. some one needs to upload John McGeehan's last list,=20 which was complete up to when he stopped compiling bob beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 20:56:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 04:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 75389 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 04:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 04:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 04:56:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.110] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 04:56:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 04:56:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: John McGeehan's List (Was Re: Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines) Message-ID: <95aq9l+rtup@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102010437.WAA30244@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1168 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.148.138.128 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Before I try tonight and compile a decent-sized starter list, > >can anyone here who has been researching this stuff for awhile > >provide a list of ALL (or as close as anyone has gotten) fanzines > >throughout the last 40 years? > > some one needs to upload John McGeehan's last list, > which was complete up to when he stopped compiling I know not who John McGeehan is, but if someone has the list and wants to send it to me, I'll look at it and set it up in the Files section. And what DID ever happen to Marty Greim? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ltucker@rt66.com Wed Jan 31 20:57:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 04:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 61657 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 04:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 04:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 04:57:21 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf21.rt66.com [206.206.85.41]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18854; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:57:14 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A78ED0B.3FB66CB9@rt66.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:58:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ack Subject: Technical OT Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Does anyone know how I can print-out or copy to clipboard a listing of files that I have in a certain folder? I have scans of fanzine covers in different folders on my harddrive, and I would like to copy/print just the filenames of the scans from Windows Explorer to incorporate them into a document, but I can't figure out a way to do this. Thanks for any help in advance! Signed, Computer Illiterate in Roswell --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 21:08:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 05:08:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 7459 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 05:08:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 05:08:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 05:08:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 05:08:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 05:08:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Amazing Steve Ditko ('74 U.K. Fanzine) Message-ID: <95ar0v+cql1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1098 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.148.138.128 From: "Blake Bell" Ya'd think a big Ditko fan like me would have known about this 1974 U.K. fanzine called THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/amazsdUK.jpg ...but I didn't until it popped up on E-Bay last year. I'm assuming it's totally legit, but that's not a guarantee, since I've only ever seen this cover scan. Anyone have a copy of this, or can add any information? (the cover scan will now forever sit in the FILES section where anyone, who is part of this group, can upload files) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From WSchelly@aol.com Wed Jan 31 21:30:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: WSchelly@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 05:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30880 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 05:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 05:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 05:30:04 -0000 Received: from WSchelly@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.3b.fd92e64 (4011) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:29:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:29:56 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] gotta ask ... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: WSchelly@aol.com --part1_3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Greim is still living in the same house in Massachusetts though he's no longer much active in comic fandom. Mike Raub is a comics retailer in New York state. Mike and I were friends back in the 1960s, and he even printed one of the issues of my fanzine SENSE OF WONDER on his ditto machine. Bill --part1_3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Greim is still living in the same house in Massachusetts though he's
no longer much active in comic fandom. Mike Raub is a comics retailer in New
York state. Mike and I were friends back in the 1960s, and he even printed
one of the issues of my fanzine SENSE OF WONDER on his ditto machine.

Bill --part1_3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54_boundary-- From porthmadog2000@yahoo.com Wed Jan 31 22:35:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 06:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 94335 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 06:35:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 06:35:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 06:35:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2000@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.52] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 06:35:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:35:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzines Message-ID: <95b03q+22h5@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95afl4+tmda@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2025 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.3.116 From: porthmadog2000@yahoo.com Gord Would be interested in a copy of your fanzine. Let me know how to obtain one and I will get in contact with you. Peter Hansen Vancouver Canada --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., flash14221@y... wrote: > What a great group! > I too was saddened to hear of the loss of G.B. Love. He was a great > example of the earliest fan. Very few who read RBCC knew of his > handicaps. Those who did held him in the highest esteem. > > I've been a fanzine fan, mainly as a lurker since that first time in > study hall back in High School when a friend showed me Alter Ego #4 > and a few other mimio zines. I think it was '64 , no, maybe "62. > Anyway I was hooked! I sent in my quarters and stamps and eagerly > watched my mailbox ! > > I've been a little sad to see the demise of the fanzine. Internet and > web sites have pretty much taken over. I've been hunting on Ebay , and > have been able to get a hold of a few ( at great prices I should add!) > There still are a few zines being printed out there. I publish > MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER," Reviving the Fanzine Tradition from the Golden > Age of Fandom!" , and have contributed art and articles for Rich > Croxton's zine TALES FROM THE ATTIC . > > I've been in contact with Ronn Foss, another Fandom Founder. He > designed the logo for MM#2 and is writing an on going column > "Brothers of the Brush" , about early Fandom and the men ( and boys > and girls!) who made it what it has grown to become. He has also given > me some unpublished work to present. Issue #1 has The Olympian!. > Issue #3 will have "Virgin Sacrifice". Issue #1 has a dedication to > Steve Ditko, including pictures ( I was good friends with a woman who > went to school with Steve back in Johnstown PA, and she had High > School yearbook pics. Steve was on the JHS baseball team!) > > If anyone on this list is aware of any other fanzine still around I'd > be very interested in obtaining them. Also any old ones that are just > waiting to find a new home? > Best, > Gord From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Wed Jan 31 22:48:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 06:48:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 2773 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 06:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 06:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 06:48:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.59] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 06:48:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:48:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzines Message-ID: <95b0se+vavi@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95b03q+22h5@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2200 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" Yes, please post ordering information! - Jason Sacks in Seattle > Gord > > Would be interested in a copy of your fanzine. Let me know how to > obtain one and I will get in contact with you. > > Peter Hansen > Vancouver Canada > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., flash14221@y... wrote: > > What a great group! > > I too was saddened to hear of the loss of G.B. Love. He was a great > > example of the earliest fan. Very few who read RBCC knew of his > > handicaps. Those who did held him in the highest esteem. > > > > I've been a fanzine fan, mainly as a lurker since that first time > in > > study hall back in High School when a friend showed me Alter Ego #4 > > and a few other mimio zines. I think it was '64 , no, maybe "62. > > Anyway I was hooked! I sent in my quarters and stamps and eagerly > > watched my mailbox ! > > > > I've been a little sad to see the demise of the fanzine. Internet > and > > web sites have pretty much taken over. I've been hunting on Ebay , > and > > have been able to get a hold of a few ( at great prices I should > add!) > > There still are a few zines being printed out there. I publish > > MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER," Reviving the Fanzine Tradition from the > Golden > > Age of Fandom!" , and have contributed art and articles for Rich > > Croxton's zine TALES FROM THE ATTIC . > > > > I've been in contact with Ronn Foss, another Fandom Founder. He > > designed the logo for MM#2 and is writing an on going column > > "Brothers of the Brush" , about early Fandom and the men ( and boys > > and girls!) who made it what it has grown to become. He has also > given > > me some unpublished work to present. Issue #1 has The Olympian!. > > Issue #3 will have "Virgin Sacrifice". Issue #1 has a dedication to > > Steve Ditko, including pictures ( I was good friends with a woman > who > > went to school with Steve back in Johnstown PA, and she had High > > School yearbook pics. Steve was on the JHS baseball team!) > > > > If anyone on this list is aware of any other fanzine still around > I'd > > be very interested in obtaining them. Also any old ones that are > just > > waiting to find a new home? > > Best, > > Gord From ltucker@rt66.com Wed Jan 31 22:55:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 06:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 32117 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 06:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 06:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 06:55:22 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf01.rt66.com [206.206.85.21]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02483 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:55:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7908B5.33229227@rt66.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:56:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: The Great Fanzine Cover Scan Quest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Lyle Tucker Howdy, everyone! Looks like this is gonna be a great List! Looking forward to getting to know those of you whom I dont already know from other lists, and also looking forward to learning more about fanzines. (BTW  for those of you whove seen my other posts, this post contains an updated list of zines/scan I now have) As some of you may know from other lists, I'm on a fool's errand to try to collect scans of all of the covers of all of the comic fanzines which've come out over the years. This will be a sort of loosely-defined quest, the criteria being that the magazine involved should have comics as a decently large area of interest (either generally or specifically; ie WIZARD - general - or JACK KIRBY COLLEC- TOR - specific). I am including prozines into this mix, as my main reasoning is simply to document the plethora of mags devoted to the genre. I will focus mainly on American mags, but will gladly accept scans of foreign zines, too. I will include the odd magazine that doesn't necessarily normally focus on comics, but which might deviate for one issue to spotlight them (such as a recent issue of ART ISSUES, which features a great Kirby cover and article). I will also include, I believe, those magazines that have been devoted to newspaper comic strips, as I have always felt that they share a deep kinship with comic books (often spot- lighting the same characters). I am also including self-produced comics, especially those obviously produced on a shoestring, but at the moment am unsure of whether to include such solidly-produced ones as Bill Black's AC comics or Ron Frantz's ACE line (knowing me, I will probably include these later, but for now I would rather con- centrate on the smaller more obviously amateur ones). I am asking for help in this endeavor, as there is no way I could ever amass a collection to do this quest justice. I will be happy to pay Book Rate/Insured postage both ways for those who feel secure enough in lending me the actual items. I would prefer that those sending scans do so by floppy or CD (for which I will reimburse costs), but will be happy to accept them (slowly, in a pre-worked out fashion) as attachements to e-mail (amount of scans delivered per day to be worked out before sending, please), if this if more practical at your end. I have a PC and am after JPEGS, preferring the scans to be no smaller than half the size of the actual zine, if possible, and no larger than the actual size of the zine, with a size of 300KB or less. I am also looking for sites to which I might be steered for scans. In the end, I will be happy to place all the scans I collect onto CD(s) and will be more than happy to share these with folks, free of charge. This is a labor of love. To help facilitate the process, I'm listing below all the fanzines I either own or currently have scans for. Any others that you might be able to provide would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks again to those who have already helped! FANZINES/SCANS I ALREADY HAVE: ALL DYNAMIC: 7 ALL-STAR COMICS REVIEW: 1 ALTER EGO (Original): 11 ALTER EGO (2nd run): 1 - 5 AMAZING HEROES: 1, 2, 11, 69 ANOMALY: 1 ARKEN SWORD: 15 ART & STORY: 1, 2 ART ISSUES: 61 ART OF ELLIOTT RODEN, THE: 1 ARTISTS SHOWCASE: 3-5 BACK COVER: 2 BACK-UP: 1-6 BELEREPHON: ?? BEHIND THE SCENES CAPTAIN PLANET BOOK OF "JUMBO" COMICS COVERS, THE: 1 BLACK ATLAS: 1 BLACK CARROT, THE: Fall 1983 BUD PERKINS COMICS: 2 BURROUGHS BULLETIN: 19 BURWORX: 1 BUYER'S GUIDE TO COMIC FANDOM: 105-08, 110-11, 115-16, 118, 124, 127, 129, 133-34, 136, 147-48, 153, 160, 165, 169, 333, 347 CAPT. GEORGES WHIZBANG, THE NEW: 16 CAPT. TARGET: 1-3 CARTOONISTS & ILLUSTRATORS PORTFOLIO: 2 CHAOS (Cosmostar): 1 CHARLTON BULLSEYE: 1, 2, 4, 5 CHRONICLES: 1-2 CLASSIC CREEPY TALES (Rich Sala): 1 COLLECTORS CLUB NEWSLETTER, THE: 25 COLLECTOR'S DREAM (UK): 2, 3 COMIC & CRYPT: 5 COMIC BOOK ARTIST: 1- 11 COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE: 9, 12-22, 24, 26, 28, 30-35, 37-38, 42-44, 46-49, 51-56, 58-59, 61-63, 65-66, 68-73, 75-83 COMIC BOOK NOOK NEWSLETTER, THE: 2 COMIC CRUSADER: 9 COMIC EFFECT: 23 COMIC FANTASY QUARTERLY: 1 COMIC INFORMER: 3 COMIC MEDIA: 10-11 COMIC READER: 64-65, 127, 184 COMIC TIMES: 1, 4 COMICS COMMENTARY: 4 COMICS INTERVIEW: 66-67, 75 COMICS INTERNATIONAL: 96 COMICS JOURNAL, THE: 47, 53, 59, 64, 69-70, 72, 74-77, 79, 81, 90-91, 94-95, 97-98, 100-101, 203, 225 COMICS REVUE: 44-45, 47, 49, 55, 173 COMICS SCENE: 13, 15, 21, 27, Yearbook #2 COMICS SCENE 2000: 1 COMICS SOURCE: 27-29 COMIXSCENE: 5 CONTEMPORARY PICTORIAL LITERATURE: 11 DEAN NOVA: 3 DEJA-VU: 1 DITKOMANIA: 10, 14 DOMINO DOMES (Howarth) DRACULINA: 1 DRAWING STICK, THE DUCKBURG TIMES: 1 DYNAMITE: 9 EAGLESTAR: 2 EC FAN ADDICT: 2 ENTROPY COMICS: 2 ERB NEWS DATELINE: 19 ESSAN COMICS: 6 EYE, THE: 1, 2 FANDOM'S AGENT: 6-7 FANDOM CALENDAR 1980 FANDOM CIRCUS: 2 FANDOMS DIGEST: 1 FANDOM TRADER: 1, 12 FANFARE: 4, 5 FANS OF EC, THE: 1, 2 FANTACO'S CHRONICLES: 4, 5 FANTASIA: 1,3 FANTASY CROSSROADS: 2 FANTASTIC EXPLOITS: 20 FANTASTIC FANZINE: 6&7, 11-12 FAR FRONTIER: 1 FAVORITE FUNNIES: 1-7, 9-12 FLASHBACK: 4-5, 9, 27 FOOM: 2 FUNNIES PAPER, THE: 13, 15 GALAXIA: 1 GAMUT: 1 GOLDEN AGE, THE (Don Newton): 5 GOLDEN AGE COLLECTOR, THE: 1 GOLDEN AGE OF COMICS, THE: 1, 3-4, Special Summer Issue GOLDEN AGE MEN OF MYSTERY: 7-9, 12, 15, 17, 25 GOLDEN AGE GREATS: 3, 5 GOTHAM GUARDIAN: 1 GRAPHIC FANTASY ANNUAL GRAPHIC STORY MAGAZINE: 8, 13, 16 GRAPHIC STORY WORLD: 2 GRAPHIC VISIONS GRATIS: 1 HEROES ILLUSTRATED: 3 HARVARD JOURNAL OF PICTORIAL FICTION: Spring 1974 ish HOGAN'S ALLEY: 6, 8 HOLA: 3 HORROR FAN CLUB MAGAZINE, THE: 1 ILLUSTRATED COMIC COLLECTOR'S HANDBOOK, THE: 2, 3 IMAGINE: 5-6 INCREDIBLES TALES OF ADVENTURE: 7 INCREDIBLE TALES OF ADVENTURE BONUS ISSUE: 1 INFINITE TALES: 2 INFINITY: 2, 3, 4 IT'S A FANZINE: 2-5, 9-11, 13, 16, 20-21, 31-39, 41-49 JACK KIRBY COLLECTOR: 1-27, 30 JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY: 1-3, 5-12 JACK KIRBY TREASURY: 1, 2 JACQUES: Dec. 1979 JUST COMICS AND MORE: 1 KALEIDOSCOPE: 2 LOLLAPALOOSA: 4 LOVE RANGERS, THE: 5 MARVEL COLLECTORS HANDBOOK: 1 MARVELMANIA MAGAZINE: 5 MARVEL TIMES: 1 MEDIASCENE: 10, 24, 28-29, 31, 34-37, 40 MENOMEE FALLS GAZETTE: 1972: 8, 17, 18, 19-21, 26-30, 33-35, 37, 39, 41, 43-44, 48-50, 52, 54 1973: 8-12, 16-17, 19-22, 55-59, 61-64, 69, 71-74, 77, 79, 81-83, 85, 87, 89-90, 92. 98-99 1974: 18-19, 24, 29-30, 50-56 1975: 168, 171-76, 178, 198-99, 202-207 MONSTER MAGAZINE & FANZINE COLLECTORS CUIDE: 2 NEAR MINT: 8, 10 NEMO: 1-6, 8-14, 16-19 NIMBUS: 3 NO SEX: 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 NEWTON PORTFOLIO, DON: 1 OKEEFENOKEE STAR: 5, 6 OMNIMAN SPECTACULAR 1982 OMNIVERSE: 2 OVERLOAD: ?? OVERSTREET COMIC BOOK MARKETPLACE: 1, 2 OVERSTREET COMIC BOOK MONTHLY: 3, 5, 9, 12-13, 16 OVERSTREET GOLDEN AGE & SILVER AGE QTRLY: 1-6 PAIGE PROFILE: 4 PANELS: 2 PARAGON ILLUSTRATED: 2 PEOPLES COMIC BOOK NEWSLETTER: 36 PLASTICINE: 4 POTBOILER: 3 PRINCESSIONS: 14 PROMETHIAN: 1 PURE IMAGES: 1 RADION: 6 RAGNAROK: 2, 3 RAY WONG ART: 1 REAL FUN: 2 REALM: 3 ROCKET'S BLAST COMIC COLL., THE (1st run): 71-72, 78, 80, 94, 96, 99, 101, 111, 113, 115, 131, 138, 140-41, 144, 147-48, 150-51 RBCC (2nd run): 1 REH LONE STAR FICTIONEER: 4 ROCKET'S BLAST SPECIAL, THE: 1, 7 SHADOW/DOC SAVAGE QUEST, THE: 16 SHADOWS (French): 1 SOJOURN (Kuberts oversized): 1, 2 SPACE & TIME: 35 SPWAO SHOWCASE: 3 STAP SLAYER: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 STAR-STUDDED: ?? STAR-STUDDED COMICS: 8 STRANGE GAB OF THE UNEXPECTED: 2 SQUA TRONT: 8 SUPERZINE: 3, 5 TALES FROM THE ATTIC: 1-5 TELEGRAPH WIRE, THE: 19 TEMPLE SNARE THRUST: 13 TURBINE, THE ACME COMICS: 1, 5, 9 TYRO: 1 ULTIMATE TEAM-UP, THE: 1 ULTRA-ZINE: 6, 8, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, ULTRA-ZINE SPECIAL: 7 UNPUBLISHED: 1, 2, 3 VACATION IN DUCKBURG: 1 VALERIE: 1 VENTURE: 4 VOICE OF COMICDOM: 14 WHISPERS & SHADOWS: 1 WHIZZARD\ WOLVERTOONS WOWEEKAZOWIE: 3 WOWEEKAZOWIE AVENGERS XYLOMAN: 7 YE OLDE FANZINE SHOPPE 1973 --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 23:19:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 07:19:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 64513 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 07:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 07:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 07:19:30 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.169.63]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G82HOG00.RBZ for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:19:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3A7937E5.5EC0CE9E@home.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:18:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #6 Re-Cap Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Two nice items arrived in the mail today. A couple of E-Bay wins of COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #6 and #7. These pretty much speak to the heart of why I love fanzines. For someone who was born in 1970, these are like a window to the world of fandom in its early stages. COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #6 (Feb 24 '72) is published by a '70s Ditko confidante JOE BRANCATELLI and boasts a contributing writers line-up that includes Tony "Rock Me" Isabella, Marky Mark Evanier, Paul Levitz, and the recently-mentioned-in-a-message Mike Raub. What I didn't know what that COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY was only 6"x8" in size. The inside front cover appears to boast an ad for GREMLIN #2 by Gary Brown of Florida. Quite the line-up named for #2 : Adams, Ditko, Foster, Giordano, Jones, Martin, Mastroserio, PAM, Steranko, Wolfman. I'll have to assume that most of those would be articles on the names. Stand-out articles include a review of STAN LEE AT CARNEGIE HALL from Jan 5 '72, including the promo poster for same, and pics of Lee, Trimpe, Romita Sr. and an evil-looking Barry Smith. There's an obit of Roy Disney. Tony Isabella's column is amusing from a few angles. As someone here spoke of earlier today, he mentions the Toth interview in GRAPHIC STORY MAGAZINE #10, and notes that he has just turned 20. Mark Evanier hands out the Dubious Achievement Awards of 1971, including the "Chicken Sh t Award" to The Nostalgia News for censoring segments of Bud Plant's underground comix list by deleting letter (i.e. Big ss Comics); Joe Kubert reprinted the same ENEMY ACE story in S.S.W.S. #153 and #157, and a Don Heck story was reprinted in MY Love #8 and then again in #14, and a Two-Gun Kid story in Mighty Marvel Western #15 was incoherent because it was comprised of two pages from each of three SEPARATE Two-Gun Kid stories; a comic fan in Portland purchased THOR #196 which consisted of no interior pages and 36 covers. I am surprised at how many Canadians we have on this list, and this issue has a VIEW FROM CANADA article by Cliff Letovsky, talking about happenings in different Canadian cities. I didn't recognize any names except for Pierre Fournier, who actually won a book from a competition I held on my Unofficial THOMPSON TWINS (an '80s synth-pop music band) Home Page late last year! The highlight for me was the article by Wally Stoelting called THE DITKO PHILOSOPHY. It speaks to the disgust some fanzine readers have expressed over Ditko's MR. A. stories, and goes on to explain Ditko's views on neutrality, democracy, etc. And of course it is always interesting to see the ads and reviews for other fanzines like ALGOL, DYNAMIC and GOSH WOW #2. COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #7 is up tomorrow. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Wed Jan 31 23:54:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 07:54:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 98306 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 07:54:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 07:54:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 07:54:54 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.188]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G82JBE00.3YQ for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:54:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3A794023.C506420C@home.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:53:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RAPPORT #2 and VOICE OF COMICDOM #6 Covers Uploaded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Richard "Hang The D.J." Morrissey writes : > I've heard of most of the fanzines you mention, but > I've never heard of RAPPORT or FMZ. Who published > them, and what were they like? > Glad to be here, by the way... Welcome aboard, Rich. RAPPORT #2 (1966) featured a Ditko interview, which was reprinted in Bill Hall's DITKOMANIA #24. Here's a scan of the cover to #2 in the FILES section... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/rapport2.jpg FMZ #1 was from 1970 and reprinted "Stretching Things" from FANTASTIC FEARS #5, 1/54 (in B&W, I believe), which was Ditko's first-drawn story. Don't know much about it beyond that. I've also uploaded the cover to VOICE OF COMICDOM #6 ('66), which features an article on Ditko quitting Marvel... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/voiceof6.jpg SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 01 01:59:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19156 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:50 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.5c.6a0af5d (3945) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5c.6a0af5d.27aa8d90@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:44 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 1/31/01 9:35:42 PM, ditko37@home.com writes: > Before I try tonight and compile a decent-sized starter list, >can anyone here who has been researching this stuff for awhile >provide a list of ALL (or as close as anyone has gotten) fanzines >throughout the last 40 years? > Back about 30+ years ago, I published a listing of all known comics fanzines in my fanzine, THE PANELOLOGIST. I'll try to find a copy to get you started. The major source you need to tap is John McGeehan, whose address someone on this list must have. John (and his deceased brother Tom) kept double copies of all fanzines (comics and those closely related to comics) for decades and from time to time published listings in CAPA-alpha, the first comics-oriented comics APA. John is (I believe) still a member of K-a; in fact, he is the longest surviving founding member of that APA, which I started back in Oct., 1964. The reason I can give you the date is: I am consulting the ''little red book'', THE GUIDEBOOK TO COMICS FANDOM, published by Bill Spicer in Summer 1965. I wrote all the editorial material, including a chronology of comics fanzines (first issues only) up to that date. I'll reproduce the short list below. Most of this material and some another text was reproduced in the first edition of Overstreet. Bestest, Jerry ----- 1960 Sept. - XERO #1 (Dick Lupoff) a s-f fanzine but it began the series All in Color for a Dime (later published as a book) 1961 Mar. - ALTER-EGO #1 (Jerry Bails) *(I hyphenated the title.) Apr. - COMIC ART #1 (Don Thompson & Maggie) *(Were they married yet? I don't think so.) Sept. - THE COMICOLLECTOR #1 (Bails) Oct. - ON THE DRAWING BOARD (Bails) *(It was numbered ''4'', I think, because the first 3 releases appeared in A-E and CC; I later called it THE COMIC READER) Dec. - THE ROCKET'S BLAST #1 (G.B. Love) 1962 Jan. - INDEX TO ALL-STAR COMICS (Bails) July - KOMIX ILLUSTRATED #1 (Biljo White) Sept. - THE KOMIX #1 (John Wright, South Africa) THE MASQUERADER #1 (Mike Vosburg, Michigan) SUPER HERO #1 (Mike Tuohey, Michigan) Dec. - THE COMIC WORLD #1 (Robert Jennings) 1963 Apr. - FIGHTING HERO COMICS #1 (G.B. Love) June - STAR-STUDDED COMICS #1 (Texas Trio) Aug. - DATELINE:COMICDOM #1 (Ronn Foss) 1964 Feb. - FANTASY ILLUSTRATED #1 (Bill Spicer) Apr.. - WHO'S WHO IN COMICS FANDOM (Larry Lattanzi & Bails) June - SLAM-BANG #1 (Rick Weingroff) July - BATMANIA #1 (Biljo White) Oct. - VOICE OF COMICDOM #2 (first issue) (Golden Gate) - CAPA-alpha (first amateur press association in comicdom) - FORUM #1 (Paul Gambaccini) Dec. - DOWN UNDER #1 (John Ryan, Australia) From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 01 01:59:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 92713 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:55 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.af.68c2d33 (3945) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:47 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] RBCC To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 1/31/01 8:42:44 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: >I'm working on it now. I sent the listing to Diamond Previews 3 weeks ago >so >I hope to get it out by early May. It will include an article about G.B. > >Love, who passed away two weeks ago. I wrote a piece about him for Comics > >Buyer's Guide which should be in the issue they just mailed.--Jim Van Hise > May I suggest that if we are all to follow the many threads on this and other lists we belong to, we need to provide a copy of the relevant portion of a message we are responding to. I can only guess what Jim is responding to above, because I have several dozen messages to go through before I can match up his with the one he is responding to, and I'm too old to remember every message I read in the last few days. (Over 50) Help me out. (Okay, so I can guess in this case, but don't count on my lousy memory to work in every case.) Bestest, Jerry From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 01 01:59:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 19278 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 09:59:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 09:59:57 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.63.113739d5 (3945) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <63.113739d5.27aa8d92@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:59:46 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 1/31/01 8:55:52 PM, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: >If anyone on this list is aware of any other fanzine still around I'd >be very interested in obtaining them. Also any old ones that are just >waiting to find a new home? >Best, >Gord > One of the great comics fanzine producers of all time was my unwired buddy, Alex Dellinges, whose art reproductions you'll see in All-Star Companion. I desparately want to get Alex wired for lots of reasons, but in the meantime, those of you who missed his many issues of NEAR MINT might want to write him to see if he has any copies left. Alex did his own printing, in his basement. He had issues devoted to just about every top artist and/or topic of his (my) generation (the Golden Age). Please drop him a line. Not being wired, he still hangs around his mailbox. You remember what that's like? His address is: 211 WILLOW ST., MILBRAE, CA 94030 Tell him he is needed here. Bestest, Jerry From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 01 04:55:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 12:55:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 40550 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 12:53:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 12:53:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 12:53:39 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010201125314.IRDP844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:53:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3A795C3D.D982111B@home.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:53:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Yahoo Problems References: <3b.fd92e64.27aa4e54@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Apparently, Yahoo hasn't quite ironed out "issues" concerning their take-over of egroups, so if anyone is having problems changing their status, such as wanting to switch from individual messages to digests, they can e-mail me PRIVATELY and I'll take care of the switch. I don't remember it being this difficult when egroups merged with onelist. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 01 05:43:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 13:43:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13807 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 13:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 13:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 13:42:38 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10020 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:42:38 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.174] (ppp33.netimaging.com [208.136.132.174]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA09935 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:42:37 -0600 Message-Id: <200102011342.HAA09935@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines Date: Thu, 1 Feb 01 07:41:08 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Back about 30+ years ago, I published a listing of all known comics fanzines >in my fanzine, THE PANELOLOGIST. I'll try to find a copy to get you >started. > The major source you need to tap is John McGeehan, whose address someone on >this list must have. John (and his deceased brother Tom) kept double copies >of all fanzines (comics and those closely related to comics) for decades and >from time to time published listings in CAPA-alpha, the first >comics-oriented >comics APA. John is (I believe) still a member of K-a; in fact, he is the >longest surviving founding member of that APA, which I started back in Oct., >1964. Jerry, It was John who is dead, Tom is still in K-A bob From buckyruckus@hotmail.com Thu Feb 01 05:54:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: buckyruckus@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 13:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5399 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 13:54:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 13:54:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 13:54:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 13:54:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:54:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Martin Greim Message-ID: <95bpr8+e08h@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 377 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.146.58.31 From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com I was happy to see somebody mention Martin Greim. Marty's COMIC CRUSADER was the first fanzine I saw in the late '60s, and remains my all-time, nostalgic favorite. I've been trying to complete a collection for decades, including the first 4 issues I never saw. Anybody know how many issues were published, and what was in the last one? Any info appreciated. Thanks, Mark From GSArkell@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 06:04:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 14:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 61101 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 14:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 14:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9602.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.181) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 14:03:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20010201140311.23595.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.171.232.1] by web9602.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:03:11 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:03:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] gotta ask ... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200102010431.WAA27511@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gary Arkell Bob, Do you know the name of that comic store in Norwalk? When I was living in Norwalk, Conn, I used to visit a comic shop. I really only remember one. --- Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >the first two fanzines i ever got were Comic Crusader and ... i > >forget. Whatever happened to Martin Greim? the other one was > produced > >on a ditto machine by Mike Raub - i spent hours reading every word, > i > >was so happy to see that someone else collected comics - whatever > >happened to Mike Raub? > >thanks for listening, > >Paul > > > Mike Raub reopened a comic book store in Norwalk, Conn with his > wife., I think it was - doing OK again. I see him at NYC shows. > > bob beerbohm > > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > ******************************************** > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > ******************************************** > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips > > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph Töpffer > > ===== REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY DON'T DREAM IT BE HERE Gary __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From caputon66@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 06:13:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 14:13:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 57520 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 14:13:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 14:13:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 14:13:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caputon66@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 14:13:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:13:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: The Amazing Steve Ditko ('74 U.K. Fanzine) Message-ID: <95bqug+tahg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95ar0v+cql1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1084 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 12.27.104.2 From: caputon66@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Blake Bell" wrote: > > Ya'd think a big Ditko fan like me would have known about > this 1974 U.K. fanzine called THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/amazsdUK.jpg > > ...but I didn't until it popped up on E-Bay last year. > I'm assuming it's totally legit, but that's not a guarantee, > since I've only ever seen this cover scan. > Anyone have a copy of this, or can add any information? > (the cover scan will now forever sit in the FILES section > where anyone, who is part of this group, can upload files) Hi Blake, I've never seen the issue myself, but i believe its legit, as I had issues of the parent title, Fantasy Unlimited, a british fanzine that came out in the mid-1970s. It was a prety nice fanzine, and had an interesting letters section (I remember Ditko being mentioned quite a bit). I'll have to check and see if I still have any copies and if there is any mention of that Ditko special (my guess is its a one shot publication). Nick Caputo From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 01 06:17:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 14:17:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 66742 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 14:16:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 14:16:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 14:16:33 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27958 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:16:33 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.161] (ppp20.netimaging.com [208.136.132.161]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA27873 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:16:31 -0600 Message-Id: <200102011416.IAA27873@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] gotta ask ... Date: Thu, 1 Feb 01 08:15:03 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Bob, Do you know the name of that comic store in Norwalk?=20 > >When I was living in Norwalk, Conn, I used to visit a comic shop. I >really only remember one. Jeez, for the life of me I cannot remember what Mike Raub told me the name = was. It was definitely not Dream factory or even close, as they lost out o= n all that with the Chicago craziness sucking out their energy for a while. Here is Mike's email address: FMGOSTCOM@aol.com maybe a few people can ask him to join up on the list as an e-DATELINE: CO= MICDON redux -:) bob beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From ogden@csd.com Thu Feb 01 07:48:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 15:48:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29596 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 15:44:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 15:44:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 15:44:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.105] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 15:44:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:44:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Message-ID: <95c08m+n8or@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200101311635.KAA23439@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 8193 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.29 From: ogden@csd.com I was saddened to hear of the passing of GB Love. This was the first=20 I'd heard the news. As with many fans, RBCC was my first contact with=20 fandom (RBCC #64).=20=20 I am so glad to be a member of this group. I have been a lover of=20 fanzines for over 30 years now, and the fever never seems to diminish.=20 Thanks to eBay I can find some elusive fanzines that have escaped me=20 over the years (although at greatly exagerated prices!) and maybe=20 through this group I can get answers to questions and share=20 information I may have. I uploaded several fanzine covers to the files section (mostly taken=20 from eBay). Hope everyone enjoys them.=20=20 I have some RBCC related questions that maybe someone can help me=20 with.=20=20 1. Which issues of Rocket's Blast where 8.5 x 14? 2. Which issues of Rocket's Blast were stapled at the top? 3. Which issue of RBCC was the last one to be edited by GB Love? Thanks in advance. Steve Ogden P.S. I have been working on a massive listing of fanzines for years=20 now. It is built using an older version of Microsoft Access. It is=20 a VERY large file. How could I upload this so the group could see it? --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: >=20 > the following was at first a private post to a few old 60s comics=20 buddies, but somehow it appears appropriate to archive it on this=20 list: >=20 > >-----=20 > >Hi Bart,=20 > > G.B. Love passed away on Wednesday night at 10;22 PM. His=20 will=20 > >was to=20 > >be cremated and his church had a memorial service today and was=20 packed with=20 > >most of his local friends as well as some from out of state. He was=20 like part=20 > >of my family and will be greatly missed by me and all who knew him=20 and I=20 > >know that includes you.=20 > > > > Roy Bonario >=20 > Roy, Bart - >=20 > God -what words can express what I feel?=20=20 >=20 > G.B. got me into comics fandom thru his letter Julie published in=20 JLA 31 - my first RBCC was 45, my first ad was in #47 with its high=20 energy color cover of the Spirit by one Buddy Saunders, with all of=20 its 10 lines of stuff for sale. It was a dinky ad on the half page=20 which followed several full pages from a couple guys from Houston=20 named Roy Bonario and Marc Schooley. Their last three lines was a=20 cryptic announcement about "Houstoncon in '67" and I went - all 14=20 years old of me. >=20 > An ad in RBCC had me send off for a sub to Star*Studded which had a=20 write up of the 1966 version. I was hooked - I turned 15 at that 1967=20 Houston show. June 17 is my birthday. I think there was all of 112 of=20 us there, right? >=20 > G.B. Love was the first "direct distributor" for fandom - with his=20 innovative (for us then anyway) Ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe" buying 50-100=20 copies of fanzines to resell as well as reprinting "must have" gems=20 like Alter Ego 5 7 8, etc.=20=20 >=20 > Phil and then Bud learned a bit from G.B.'s initial brain child.=20=20 >=20 > None of us knew the man had been hand collating RBCC as thick as it=20 got with what God had given him to work with. For a long time RBCC=20 was the center of fandom. G. B. Love will be remembered for growing=20 "our" family. Those were fun days. >=20 > bob beerbohm >=20 > and Bud Plant sent this to me: >=20 > From: Bud Plant, bud@b... > To: Bob Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... > To: b bush" ; "roy bonario" ; "Buddy Saunders" ; beerbohm@t... ; Cc:=20 "Bud Plant" ; "Jerry Bails" ; "Chuck Wooley"=20 > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:13 AM >=20 >=20 > Thanks for including me in the sad new of G.B.'s passing. Although I=20 hadn't heard much about him in the last few years, I hope that he kept=20 his sense of wonder and his enthusiasm for comics. He truly was=20 responsible for so many fans growing and staying interested in the=20 hobby. >=20 > The RBCC was also a milestone in my comics history. Like Bob, I also=20 started with #45. I had just met John Barrett, Jim Buser and a couple=20 other friends in San Jose. They gave me a one-page flyer for RBCC=20 which I ordered from. I also fondly remember Raymond Miller's=20 specials, including one on Quality Comics and another on Timely. I=20 read them ragged, those windows into a another time that somehow=20 contemporary comics had come from. I'm just now completing my Quality=20 runs, after 35 years. >=20 > The RBCC put us all in touch with one another, helped conventions=20 like Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma and New York get off the ground. I=20 started advertising some duplicate comics early on. Once I got started=20 selling underground comics and fanzines, the RBCC was THE place to=20 advertise until it was slowly eclipsed by the Comics Buyer's Guide.=20 Truly, it gave me my start in mail order that evolved into what I=20 still do today. >=20 > But the RB was always a lot more fun than the early TBG, with those=20 insert pages and special color covers, with fan renderings and even=20 some pros. With so many ads for great old zines where we could learn=20 more.=20 >=20 > Thank you GB, for your hard work and your enthusiasm that brought so=20 much to our lives. >=20 >=20 > My best to all your guys, my old friends. >=20 > Bud >=20 > Bud Plant Comic Art > 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 > Grass Valley, CA 95945 > 530-273-2166, Extension 212 >=20 > Blake, email Bud to join this list - he just might. ask him if it=20 is OK to sign him on as a daily digest kind of guy >=20 > *********** >=20 > a few more old friends checked in: >=20 > Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... > Sent: 1/26/20 5:15 AM > Received: 1/30/01 6:35 PM > From: roy bonario, DROSEV@a... > To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... >=20 > Bob, > Thanks for your letter. It expresses what all of us feel=20 about the=20 > guy who introduced most of us to Comic Fandom. He spent his last 30=20 years=20 > here in Houston and made a lot of friends here who as I said=20 previously will=20 > miss him a lot and never forget him. He was a very independent=20 person who had=20 > made his own way in spite of a handicap that he didn't want anyone=20 to=20 > consider. And we didn't, we gave him hell just like everybody else=20 and he=20 > gave it right back. He spent most of his holiday dinners with me and=20 my=20 > family and they'll be a little less happier without him. However, we=20 old=20 > timers will always have our memories of him and the others who have=20 left the=20 > scene and the great, early years of comics fandom that will never be=20 again. >=20 > Roy=20 >=20 > *************************** >=20 > Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... > Sent: 1/29/20 5:23 PM > Received: 1/30/01 6:34 PM > From: Don Maris, donmaris@w... > To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... >=20 > Bob, Thanks for the info. I am very sad and will say a prayer for=20 his soul. > Did anyone tell The Comic Buyers guide about G.B.'s death?? Thanks=20 again, >=20 > ************* >=20 > and here is the first announcement bart Bush sent me a couple weeks=20 ago: >=20 > Subject: GCD Chat - Some sad news, friends! > Sent: 1/17/20 8:33 AM > Received: 1/16/01 5:10 PM > From: b bush, bbush@m... > Reply-To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@f... > To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@f... >=20 > Bart here; >=20 > I was just informed that G.B. Love, one of the 'fathers' of Comic=20 Book > Fandom, is in critical shape, after being in a serious car accident=20 a few > weeks ago, and now has developed pnemonia and may not make it much=20 longer. >=20 > I'll keep everyone posted, but in the meantime, a prayer from each=20 of us > would be in order. > Thank you. >=20 > ****************************** >=20 > GB, Our prayers are with you always. >=20 > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > beerbohm@t... (402)727-4071 > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > ******************************************** > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > ******************************************** > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books &=20 strips=20 > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 01 09:21:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 17:21:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 93259 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 17:08:21 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.6d.ee52518 (24903) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:08:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6d.ee52518.27aaf1fe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:08:14 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/01 8:37:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ogden@csd.com writes: << I have some RBCC related questions that maybe someone can help me with. 1. Which issues of Rocket's Blast where 8.5 x 14?>> I've never seen one of those, but it could be before #23, which is my oldest. <<2. Which issues of Rocket's Blast were stapled at the top?>> See my answer to #1 <<3. Which issue of RBCC was the last one to be edited by GB Love? >> RBCC #112 From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Thu Feb 01 09:52:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 17:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 61586 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 17:38:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 17:38:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 17:38:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.10.103] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 17:38:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:38:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Message-ID: <95c6vc+tq2s@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95c08m+n8or@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 10554 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.186 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Just thought I would pitch in with a bunch of ramblings in response=20 to some earlier messages. Death of a Founding Father: I too was saddened to hear about the senseless death of GB Love, and=20 to find out how pointless it was I suggest you read Jim Van Hise's=20 upcoming tribute in the CBG. Fanzines, and by default fandom is about people. In my humble=20 opinion five people formed the cornerstone of comic fandom=20 internationally. Jerry Bails, John Ryan (Australia), Denis Gifford=20 (UK), Maurice Horn (France), and John Wright (South Africa). John=20 Ryan died a number of years ago, and Denis Gifford died recently very=20 suddenly in the UK, John Wright I have not heard of for years. Other=20 major contributors such as GB Love, Keltner, McGeehan, and more have=20 also passed away, abeit with a major legacy behind them. Others are=20 I believe still around such as Will Murray, Marty Griem, Biljo White,=20 Canada's own Ken Mitchell, and thankfully many more. I believe that the achievements of these people in promoting this=20 unique art form deserve as much recognition as the creators, and I=20 would encourage all fans of comic fandom to lobby the large=20 convention organisers (San Diego, New York, Chicago, Orlando) to add=20 a fandom award to their program. Blake: UK Fanzines The UK comic fandom movement was only a few years behind that of the=20 US. The first uk fanzine Kapow (Clarke & Higgs 1967) was follwed=20 quickly by Heroes Unlimited (1967 Tony Roach)and many others after=20 that. I'm going to the UK in July, and will see if some of my=20 friends have any of these issues kicking around, as well as the Ditko=20 zine. Someone asked about old zines lying around, and I have a few that I=20 would galdly trade for photo copies of zines I dont have. Enough rambling for now. Peter Hansen Vancouver, Canada --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: > I was saddened to hear of the passing of GB Love. This was the=20 first=20 > I'd heard the news. As with many fans, RBCC was my first contact=20 with=20 > fandom (RBCC #64).=20=20 >=20 > I am so glad to be a member of this group. I have been a lover of=20 > fanzines for over 30 years now, and the fever never seems to=20 diminish.=20 > Thanks to eBay I can find some elusive fanzines that have escaped=20 me=20 > over the years (although at greatly exagerated prices!) and maybe=20 > through this group I can get answers to questions and share=20 > information I may have. >=20 > I uploaded several fanzine covers to the files section (mostly=20 taken=20 > from eBay). Hope everyone enjoys them.=20=20 >=20 > I have some RBCC related questions that maybe someone can help me=20 > with.=20=20 >=20 > 1. Which issues of Rocket's Blast where 8.5 x 14? > 2. Which issues of Rocket's Blast were stapled at the top? > 3. Which issue of RBCC was the last one to be edited by GB Love? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > Steve Ogden >=20 > P.S. I have been working on a massive listing of fanzines for=20 years=20 > now. It is built using an older version of Microsoft Access. It=20 is=20 > a VERY large file. How could I upload this so the group could see=20 it? > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm =20 wrote: > >=20 > > the following was at first a private post to a few old 60s comics=20 > buddies, but somehow it appears appropriate to archive it on this=20 > list: > >=20 > > >-----=20 > > >Hi Bart,=20 > > > G.B. Love passed away on Wednesday night at 10;22 PM.=20 His=20 > will=20 > > >was to=20 > > >be cremated and his church had a memorial service today and was=20 > packed with=20 > > >most of his local friends as well as some from out of state. He=20 was=20 > like part=20 > > >of my family and will be greatly missed by me and all who knew=20 him=20 > and I=20 > > >know that includes you.=20 > > > > > > Roy Bonario > >=20 > > Roy, Bart - > >=20 > > God -what words can express what I feel?=20=20 > >=20 > > G.B. got me into comics fandom thru his letter Julie published in=20 > JLA 31 - my first RBCC was 45, my first ad was in #47 with its high=20 > energy color cover of the Spirit by one Buddy Saunders, with all of=20 > its 10 lines of stuff for sale. It was a dinky ad on the half page=20 > which followed several full pages from a couple guys from Houston=20 > named Roy Bonario and Marc Schooley. Their last three lines was a=20 > cryptic announcement about "Houstoncon in '67" and I went - all 14=20 > years old of me. > >=20 > > An ad in RBCC had me send off for a sub to Star*Studded which had=20 a=20 > write up of the 1966 version. I was hooked - I turned 15 at that=20 1967=20 > Houston show. June 17 is my birthday. I think there was all of 112=20 of=20 > us there, right? > >=20 > > G.B. Love was the first "direct distributor" for fandom - with=20 his=20 > innovative (for us then anyway) Ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe" buying 50- 100=20 > copies of fanzines to resell as well as reprinting "must have" gems=20 > like Alter Ego 5 7 8, etc.=20=20 > >=20 > > Phil and then Bud learned a bit from G.B.'s initial brain child.=20=20 > >=20 > > None of us knew the man had been hand collating RBCC as thick as=20 it=20 > got with what God had given him to work with. For a long time RBCC=20 > was the center of fandom. G. B. Love will be remembered for=20 growing=20 > "our" family. Those were fun days. > >=20 > > bob beerbohm > >=20 > > and Bud Plant sent this to me: > >=20 > > From: Bud Plant, bud@b... > > To: Bob Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... > > To: b bush" ; "roy bonario" ; "Buddy Saunders" ; beerbohm@t... ;=20 Cc:=20 > "Bud Plant" ; "Jerry Bails" ; "Chuck Wooley"=20 > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:13 AM > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks for including me in the sad new of G.B.'s passing.=20 Although I=20 > hadn't heard much about him in the last few years, I hope that he=20 kept=20 > his sense of wonder and his enthusiasm for comics. He truly was=20 > responsible for so many fans growing and staying interested in the=20 > hobby. > >=20 > > The RBCC was also a milestone in my comics history. Like Bob, I=20 also=20 > started with #45. I had just met John Barrett, Jim Buser and a=20 couple=20 > other friends in San Jose. They gave me a one-page flyer for RBCC=20 > which I ordered from. I also fondly remember Raymond Miller's=20 > specials, including one on Quality Comics and another on Timely. I=20 > read them ragged, those windows into a another time that somehow=20 > contemporary comics had come from. I'm just now completing my=20 Quality=20 > runs, after 35 years. > >=20 > > The RBCC put us all in touch with one another, helped conventions=20 > like Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma and New York get off the ground. I=20 > started advertising some duplicate comics early on. Once I got=20 started=20 > selling underground comics and fanzines, the RBCC was THE place to=20 > advertise until it was slowly eclipsed by the Comics Buyer's Guide.=20 > Truly, it gave me my start in mail order that evolved into what I=20 > still do today. > >=20 > > But the RB was always a lot more fun than the early TBG, with=20 those=20 > insert pages and special color covers, with fan renderings and even=20 > some pros. With so many ads for great old zines where we could=20 learn=20 > more.=20 > >=20 > > Thank you GB, for your hard work and your enthusiasm that brought=20 so=20 > much to our lives. > >=20 > >=20 > > My best to all your guys, my old friends. > >=20 > > Bud > >=20 > > Bud Plant Comic Art > > 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 > > Grass Valley, CA 95945 > > 530-273-2166, Extension 212 > >=20 > > Blake, email Bud to join this list - he just might. ask him if=20 it=20 > is OK to sign him on as a daily digest kind of guy > >=20 > > *********** > >=20 > > a few more old friends checked in: > >=20 > > Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... > > Sent: 1/26/20 5:15 AM > > Received: 1/30/01 6:35 PM > > From: roy bonario, DROSEV@a... > > To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... > >=20 > > Bob, > > Thanks for your letter. It expresses what all of us feel=20 > about the=20 > > guy who introduced most of us to Comic Fandom. He spent his last=20 30=20 > years=20 > > here in Houston and made a lot of friends here who as I said=20 > previously will=20 > > miss him a lot and never forget him. He was a very independent=20 > person who had=20 > > made his own way in spite of a handicap that he didn't want=20 anyone=20 > to=20 > > consider. And we didn't, we gave him hell just like everybody=20 else=20 > and he=20 > > gave it right back. He spent most of his holiday dinners with me=20 and=20 > my=20 > > family and they'll be a little less happier without him. However,=20 we=20 > old=20 > > timers will always have our memories of him and the others who=20 have=20 > left the=20 > > scene and the great, early years of comics fandom that will never=20 be=20 > again. > >=20 > > Roy=20 > >=20 > > *************************** > >=20 > > Subject: Re: Fw: death of a friend... > > Sent: 1/29/20 5:23 PM > > Received: 1/30/01 6:34 PM > > From: Don Maris, donmaris@w... > > To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@t... > >=20 > > Bob, Thanks for the info. I am very sad and will say a prayer for=20 > his soul. > > Did anyone tell The Comic Buyers guide about G.B.'s death??=20 Thanks=20 > again, > >=20 > > ************* > >=20 > > and here is the first announcement bart Bush sent me a couple=20 weeks=20 > ago: > >=20 > > Subject: GCD Chat - Some sad news, friends! > > Sent: 1/17/20 8:33 AM > > Received: 1/16/01 5:10 PM > > From: b bush, bbush@m... > > Reply-To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@f... > > To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@f... > >=20 > > Bart here; > >=20 > > I was just informed that G.B. Love, one of the 'fathers' of Comic=20 > Book > > Fandom, is in critical shape, after being in a serious car=20 accident=20 > a few > > weeks ago, and now has developed pnemonia and may not make it=20 much=20 > longer. > >=20 > > I'll keep everyone posted, but in the meantime, a prayer from=20 each=20 > of us > > would be in order. > > Thank you. > >=20 > > ****************************** > >=20 > > GB, Our prayers are with you always. > >=20 > > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > > beerbohm@t... (402)727-4071 > > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > > ******************************************** > > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > > ******************************************** > > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 > > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books &=20 > strips=20 > > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 10:31:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 18:31:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 49981 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 18:18:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 18:18:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 18:18:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.207] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 18:12:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:12:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Zines rock! Message-ID: <95c8uh+ral3@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 503 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.173 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" I mention them in my new article: http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/comic_books.htm Actually its an old article I'm working on. Has photos of Stan Lee and Jack kirby. graphic-illusion.com I use to publish Graphic Illusions (1971). This article may appear in it slightly reduced 2001 Graphic Illusion one shot. Suggestions as to what to leave out would be appreciated. Trying to sell it on ebay at the moment (Ha). Anyway hearing about GB Love and others certainly took me back in time. From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 10:35:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 18:35:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1415 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 18:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 18:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 18:25:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.133] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 18:25:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:25:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines Message-ID: <95c9nc+u0os@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102011342.HAA09935@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1028 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.173 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" The McGeehan brothers were very supportive by buying those two copies of everything I published as a kid. Gave me some confidence. (Such as these fanzines: Beyond Infinity, Eon, Graphic Illusion). Rob Gustaveson --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Back about 30+ years ago, I published a listing of all known comics fanzines > >in my fanzine, THE PANELOLOGIST. I'll try to find a copy to get you > >started. > > The major source you need to tap is John McGeehan, whose address someone on > >this list must have. John (and his deceased brother Tom) kept double copies > >of all fanzines (comics and those closely related to comics) for decades and > >from time to time published listings in CAPA-alpha, the first > >comics-oriented > >comics APA. John is (I believe) still a member of K-a; in fact, he is the > >longest surviving founding member of that APA, which I started back in Oct., > >1964. > > Jerry, > It was John who is dead, Tom is still in K-A > > bob From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 01 10:39:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 18:39:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 66787 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 18:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 18:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 18:29:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.5e.6a8e22b (6152) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:29:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5e.6a8e22b.27ab051f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:29:51 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/01 9:56:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: << Someone asked about old zines lying around, >> I have a list if you want to email me for it. It has a lot og G.B.'s 1960s & 70s 'zines as well as many of the back issues of RBCC which I published.--James Van Hise From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 01 11:01:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 19:01:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 72201 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 18:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 18:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.7) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 19:52:45 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.c6.10bf3254 (9678) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:51:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:51:27 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Fandom Founding Fathers To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/01 12:56:28 PM, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: >I believe that the achievements of these people in promoting this > >unique art form deserve as much recognition as the creators, and I > >would encourage all fans of comic fandom to lobby the large > >convention organisers (San Diego, New York, Chicago, Orlando) to add > >a fandom award to their program. > > I think most of us who were early faneds were simply doing what we loved doing, but we were awfully happy to find so many welcome supporters of our efforts. As for fan awards, I have received more than my fair share over the years: Alley Award for Favorite Fan Magazine 1961 Honored Guest: Dallas Comics Con 1973 Ed Aprill, Jr. Award 1977 (Comic Art Convention, N.Y.C.) Inkpot Award 1981 (San Diego Comicon) Diamond Distributors Lifetime Fandom Award 1990 not to mention Bill Schelly's magnificent tributes. Speaking of Ed Aprill, I don't think he has been mentioned here yet, but he was a founding father. He produced the very first, high-quality fan publication devoted to the reprinting of the best of the syndicated adventure strips. He introduced me to my all-time favorite syndicated adventure strip, which I am still enjoying -- Modesty Blaise. Incidentally, the reprint tradition started by Ed is carried forward today very faithfully by Rick Norwood, who publishes COMICS REVUE and MODESTRY BLAISE and many PRINCE VALIANT valoumes. Contact him at: norwoodr@etsu.edu for subscription information. Ed Aprill was also a Michigander, and a close friend of mine. Like our heroic friend G.B. Love, he too died prematurely in an auto accident. It was my sad duty to do Ed's final income taxes for his widow, and it was painfully obvious just how much work he was contributing to Fandom when he was taken in mid-life. As some of you may know, John Ryan was also a close friend of mine (although we met only through the mails). He died in a freak accident when a concrete cornice on the front of a motel fell on him. Australian fandom (but also all comics lovers) lost a magnificent comics scholar and fan publisher. Fortunately, we have John's book, DOWN UNDER, to give us an overview of Aussie Comicdom up to the late 60s or was that the early 70s (?). John Wright of South Africa, another founding father, went on to write detective novels, including a story involving a detective from Detroit by the odd name of ''Jerry Bails''. It has been so long since anyone has heard from John, I fear he too must have died. Otherwise, I'm sure I would've heard from him. Are they any South Africans on this list to check this out? I met Maurice Horn of French Fandom on his visit to the U.S. back in the mid-60s. He told of why it was that Europeans (especially the French) had such a headstart on Americans when it came to collecting the great newspaper strips of the 1930s. While Americans were collecting paper for the war drive (in our little red wagons), the French were hoarding old newspapers so that they would not fall into the hands of the Nazi war machine. At the end of the war, all these rare papers from 1930s came flooding out and the collectors and fans had a hayday. I suspect something similar may have happened in Italy. While I am talking about Europeans, I don't want to forget calling to your attention a great Greman comics fan-historian, who contributed greatly to my early appreciation European comics, Wolfgang Fuchs. He is another old friend that suddenly disappeared. I fear that he too has passed away. It should be clear that Comics Fandom has always been an international enterprise from Day One. We freely exchanged bundles of comics and fanzines across whole oceans, and at a time when that might take up to 6 weeks or more. Even before the Internet, we've had knowledgable fans in Norway, Finland, Czeckoslovakia and Singapore, among others. I even had a fan who corresponded heavily with me from places like Antarctica, Saudia Arabia and finally Moscow. He was with the U.S. Marines. Eric Goepfert, where are you now? Bestest, Jerry From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 01 11:19:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 19:19:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2849 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 19:10:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 19:10:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 19:10:03 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25859 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:10:02 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.187] (ppp46.netimaging.com [208.136.132.187]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25774 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:10:01 -0600 Message-Id: <200102011910.NAA25774@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Date: Thu, 1 Feb 01 13:08:32 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >From: James Van Hise, Jimvanhise@aol.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >In a message dated 2/1/01 8:37:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ogden@csd.com= =20 >writes: > ><< I have some RBCC related questions that maybe someone can help me=20 > with.=20 > 1. Which issues of Rocket's Blast where 8.5 x 14?>> > I've never seen one of those, but it could be before #23, which is my= =20 >oldest.=20 about the first dozen or so were legal size > <<2. Which issues of Rocket's Blast were stapled at the top?>> > See my answer to #1 all of the legal size issues were stapled at the top my oldest one is #8 or so bob beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. 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From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 01 11:27:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 19:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 45127 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 19:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 19:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 19:17:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.10.107] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 19:17:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:17:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hello Message-ID: <95cco1+a6jg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 838 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.27.138.42 From: "Jerry " Just a quick post to introduce myself, I am Jerry Foley, 39 yrs old, married and living in Kentucky. I use to contribute artwork and articles to fanzines in the 70's and 80's. I actually worked up the nerve to even publish one of two zines back then too. I also inked some comicwork in the 80's and 90's, mostly independents. I am currently not doing much fanzine wise, I belong to a e-group called Ultrazine, which is a fanzine that was published in the 70's by Matt Bucher. Almost all of the members contibuted or bought the zine, although it is not limited to only those that did contribute. I am doing a little artwork for an upcoming Ultrazine special the Jason Sacks is publishing this spring. Thats about it, i hope some of you that still publish zines will post and address and price so some of us can buy your stuff. From jim.bertges@newline.com Thu Feb 01 11:44:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 19:44:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 74516 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 19:33:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 19:33:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 19:33:48 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:33:39 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB3FB@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [comicbookfanzines] Hello Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:38:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Hey Jerry, It's good to see you here. Now where are the rest of our Ultrazine pals? For those of you unfamiliar with Ultrazine, please check out the website for Ultrazine 2000. There's tons of stuff about the people who contributed to that and many other 70s & 80s fanzies as well as a killer gallery of fanzine covers. I'm counting on our pal Jason Sacks to provide the URL and stuff, c'mon Jason where are ya at? -----Original Message----- From: Jerry [mailto:gpfoley@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:17 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Hello Just a quick post to introduce myself, I am Jerry Foley, 39 yrs old, married and living in Kentucky. I use to contribute artwork and articles to fanzines in the 70's and 80's. I actually worked up the nerve to even publish one of two zines back then too. I also inked some comicwork in the 80's and 90's, mostly independents. I am currently not doing much fanzine wise, I belong to a e-group called Ultrazine, which is a fanzine that was published in the 70's by Matt Bucher. Almost all of the members contibuted or bought the zine, although it is not limited to only those that did contribute. I am doing a little artwork for an upcoming Ultrazine special the Jason Sacks is publishing this spring. Thats about it, i hope some of you that still publish zines will post and address and price so some of us can buy your stuff. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From odbs@zoomnet.net Thu Feb 01 11:55:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 19:55:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10028 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 19:46:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 19:46:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.25) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 19:46:34 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-632-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [206.230.103.153]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA31399 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:46:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c08c87$3b493160$9967e6ce@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: <95cco1+a6jg@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Hello Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:43:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C08C5D.51808C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C08C5D.51808C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jerry! Didn't we meet once at the Chicago Con? Was it '94 or '95, I can't remember= ? If you're the same Jerry Foley I'm sure you'll remember waiting seemingl= y forever in line to have our portfolio's reviewed at the Dark Horse booth.= Anyhoo. great to see you here, and thanks for the smokes I bummed off you= ! Best, Dave Rawlins http://www.zoomnet.net/~odbs/rawlins.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerry=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Hello Just a quick post to introduce myself, I am Jerry Foley, 39 yrs old,=20 married and living in Kentucky. I use to contribute artwork and=20 articles to fanzines in the 70's and 80's. I actually worked up the=20 nerve to even publish one of two zines back then too. I also inked=20 some comicwork in the 80's and 90's, mostly independents. I am currently not doing much fanzine wise, I belong to a e-group=20 called Ultrazine, which is a fanzine that was published in the 70's=20 by Matt Bucher. Almost all of the members contibuted or bought the=20 zine, although it is not limited to only those that did contribute. I=20 am doing a little artwork for an upcoming Ultrazine special the Jason=20 Sacks is publishing this spring. Thats about it, i hope some of you that still publish zines will post=20 and address and price so some of us can buy your stuff. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Do you know the name you want? Enter the domain name below an= d press GO!=20=20 www.=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C08C5D.51808C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Jerry!
Didn't we meet once at the C= hicago=20 Con? Was it '94 or '95, I can't remember? If you're the same Jerry Fo= ley=20 I'm sure you'll remember waiting seemingly forever in line to have our=20 portfolio's reviewed at the Dark Horse booth.  Anyhoo. great to see yo= u=20 here, and thanks for the smokes I bummed off you!
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am doing a lit= tle=20 artwork for an upcoming Ultrazine special the Jason
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C08C5D.51808C00-- From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Thu Feb 01 12:34:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 20:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 98637 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 20:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 20:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 20:26:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.163] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2001 20:26:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:26:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <95cgp0+t66h@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB3FB@NLCLAEXMB01> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2085 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "BERTGES, JIM" wrote: > Hey Jerry, > It's good to see you here. Now where are the rest of our Ultrazine pals? > > For those of you unfamiliar with Ultrazine, please check out the website for > Ultrazine 2000. There's tons of stuff about the people who contributed to > that and many other 70s & 80s fanzies as well as a killer gallery of fanzine > covers. > > I'm counting on our pal Jason Sacks to provide the URL and stuff, c'mon > Jason where are ya at? > Hey, that's me! Hi, my name is Jason Sacks. I'm another one of the members of both the UltraZine Yahoo Group and this one. If you're interested in joining the group, we'd love to have you. The UZ Group is extremely informal and the discussions often go far afield from the world of fan zines, but we have our common bond of publishing and enjoying fanzines to keep us together. In fact, it seems like the UZ Group will be a nice balance to this one. If you're interested in joining, please stop by http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UltraZine and join us. The UZ Group, in turn, grew out of the Ultrazine 2000 website. UZ2K was created as a place where those of us involved in zines in the late '70s and early '80s, doing work for fanzines such as Ultrazine, No-Sex, the Paige Comics line of stripzines, etc., etc., could get together as a sort of reunion from the old days. On that site, I built three pages with fanzine covers, with thumbnails to larger copies of the covers. You can find it at: http://www.ultrazine2000.com/zines.html. While you're there, please wander around the rest of the site. I'd like to update it in mid-2001 to make it more of a general zine-oriented site, rather than just Ultrazine. Finally, since we all still love zines, we're planning on putting out a strip/article zine in the middle of this year. It's coming together beautifully, and the old fun is still there! I'm excited to be in this group. I feel a bit young compared with many of you (I'm a wee child of 34), but I love to hear your discussions. - Jason From jim.bertges@newline.com Thu Feb 01 12:54:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 1 Feb 2001 20:54:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 54634 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 20:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Feb 2001 20:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 21:46:35 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:45:21 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB3FC@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Hello Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:50:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Thanks, Jason. I knew I could count on you. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Sacks [mailto:jasonsacks@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:26 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Hello --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "BERTGES, JIM" wrote: > Hey Jerry, > It's good to see you here. Now where are the rest of our Ultrazine pals? > > For those of you unfamiliar with Ultrazine, please check out the website for > Ultrazine 2000. There's tons of stuff about the people who contributed to > that and many other 70s & 80s fanzies as well as a killer gallery of fanzine > covers. > > I'm counting on our pal Jason Sacks to provide the URL and stuff, c'mon > Jason where are ya at? > Hey, that's me! Hi, my name is Jason Sacks. I'm another one of the members of both the UltraZine Yahoo Group and this one. If you're interested in joining the group, we'd love to have you. The UZ Group is extremely informal and the discussions often go far afield from the world of fan zines, but we have our common bond of publishing and enjoying fanzines to keep us together. In fact, it seems like the UZ Group will be a nice balance to this one. If you're interested in joining, please stop by http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UltraZine and join us. The UZ Group, in turn, grew out of the Ultrazine 2000 website. UZ2K was created as a place where those of us involved in zines in the late '70s and early '80s, doing work for fanzines such as Ultrazine, No-Sex, the Paige Comics line of stripzines, etc., etc., could get together as a sort of reunion from the old days. On that site, I built three pages with fanzine covers, with thumbnails to larger copies of the covers. You can find it at: http://www.ultrazine2000.com/zines.html. While you're there, please wander around the rest of the site. I'd like to update it in mid-2001 to make it more of a general zine-oriented site, rather than just Ultrazine. Finally, since we all still love zines, we're planning on putting out a strip/article zine in the middle of this year. It's coming together beautifully, and the old fun is still there! I'm excited to be in this group. I feel a bit young compared with many of you (I'm a wee child of 34), but I love to hear your discussions. - Jason To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From ltucker@rt66.com Thu Feb 01 18:19:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 02:19:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1628 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 02:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 02:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 02:13:29 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm13.rt66.com [206.206.85.63]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17487 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:13:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7A17FE.18C6C4E5@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:14:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Introduction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Howdy! First off, let me apologize for the crazy spacing on my THE GREAT FANZINE COVER SCAN QUEST post - I had cut and pasted most of it from another post and reworked it on WORD and when it showed up here, it went all haywire, becoming a real pain to read. I'm fairly computer illiterate, so I'm sure there was something crucial I needed to do that I didn't. For those who don't know me from other lists, I'm 42 years old (as of last Inauguration Day); have been a Mailman for 23 years; I live in Roswell, NM ('though I grew up in Southern California); started reading comics at about age 5 (thanks to an older brother); started drawing from comics at about age 8; have contributed to some fanzines over the years; my first exposure to fanzines was THE BUYER'S GUIDE TO COMIC FANDOM. It was my burning desire to become a good enough artist to grace one of their covers (alas, 'twas not to be). Five or so years ago I hooked up with a talented inker in CA., Bob Rivard (whom I met on a comic discussion list on Prodigy), and we have been doing stuff on and off, mostly for fun, over the years (you can visit our art site by clicking on the link under my name). I've only recently been re-bitten by the fanzine bug, thanks to eBay and generous friends, and about three weeks ago it hit me that it might be a good idea to try and collect scans of all the fanzines put out over the years. I realize it's most likely an impossible task, but with the interconnectedness of the Internet, now is probably a more likely time for actually doing something like this than ever before. So far, I'm amazed at the re- sponse I've gotten (which shouldn't really be a surprise, I guess, as we *are* fanatics!) - folks have sent me scans both through the mail and through the wire - it's a very re-assuring beginning. I will be glad to share whatever I can to anyone who needs it, but I'm counting on folks like you to help me realize as much of this project as possible. If you have a fanzine collection and a scanner, howz about scanning me up a cover once a week? I'm in no rush - this project will take a long time, I'm sure. As I said in my earlier post, I plan on putting these on CD and giving them away to whoever's interested. If we share our resources, we can accomplish great things. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 01 18:31:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 02:31:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 46652 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 02:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 02:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 02:27:15 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.173.111]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G83YTC00.71E for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:27:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3A7A452D.9B166F9@home.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:27:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Can anyone help me? I am looking to get in contact with JOE BRANCATELLI, MARTY GREIM, and BRUCE HERSHENSON. If anyone would be willing supply me with contact information for the above, please e-mail me privately at ditko37@home.com . Thanks. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 01 18:54:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 02:54:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 49324 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 02:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 02:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 02:51:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.117] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 02:51:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 02:51:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: COMIC FANDOM MONTHY #7 Re-cap Message-ID: <95d7bv+srjr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2468 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.197.173.111 From: "Blake Bell" COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #7 (Apr '72) would be the final issue of its run. Editor Brancatelli lost $150 a month on a print run of 1000 and circulation of 850 copies (at a buck a piece). For fans of STEVE DITKO, this issue would be especially sweet. Following up on the previous issue's article, THE DITKO PHILOSOPHY, Ditko himself tries to clear up some misconceptions with his OWN article, DITKO ON DITKO. It's runs 2 1/2 pages, boasting the interesting comment "I don't know why anyone figured that I'm for democracy" (it ain't whatcha think). Mark Evanier's Teratology column also focuses on Ditko's brand of philosophy for a good page and a half, and a letter in the LETTERS section comes from Bernie Bubnis. He remembers Ditko fondly for his help on the first NY Convention in 1964, and the two pages Ditko contributed for the Program, when "every artist and writer in comics were throwing Ron Fradkin and myself out of their offices". The issue also has a nice article by Tom Greeniones called UNDERSTANDING KIRBY, dealing with the 8 sterotypical characters in which Kirby deals. Paul Levitz has a chart-graph detailing the slump of sales in the big two's major titles since 1966 (excusing the bump for Marvel in 68-9). Other articles include a piece on Nedor's Masked Lass, Miss Masque; a look at SARGE STEEL by Gary Brown; The Black Terror by Art Miller; news on Bill Gaines' move to D.C. as Editorial Director, and a ballot for Don and Maggie Thompson's Goethe Awards. There is an obit for Edwin M. Aprill, and a table of contents of all the previous issues of C.F.M. Brancatelli would move on to the position of managing editor of MONSTER TIMES and (more importantly to me) publish the first titled MR. A. volume in 1973; an over-sized, 50 cent book, featuring a new wraparound cover and nine pages story, plus reprinted material from COMIC CRUSADER and THE COLLECTOR. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 19:12:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 03:12:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 59464 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 03:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 03:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 03:12:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 03:12:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 03:12:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hi Gang! Message-ID: <95d8i1+ief9@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 953 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.118 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I just put up a file of MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER #1. Not the best scan, after everyone who wants takes a look I'll replace it with a smaller scan, as well as cover of #2. The ad says $6.00, but for list members I'll offer it for $5.00 plus $2.00 Post. MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER ( Gordon Green ) 215 N. Linden Williamsville NY, 14221 Make Cks or MO's to Gordon Green I'll get them out same day recieved. --------------------------------------------------- Change of subject, there still are some MAD MAGAZINE fanzines around, kind of a carry over of the great EC zines. JOURNAL OF MADNESS is into issue #10. I could find the address and info if anyone wants. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I also put up a scan for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 which I did the cover art featuring The Claw! I could list the address for that as well if there's interest. ( I also wrote an article on the Claw for that issue !) Gord From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Feb 01 19:37:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 03:37:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 66048 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 03:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 03:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r01.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 04:38:08 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.d6.1d0b4f8 (4400) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:36:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:36:55 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d6.1d0b4f8.27ab8557_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com --part1_d6.1d0b4f8.27ab8557_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/01 10:27:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > ? > I am looking to get in contact with JOE BRANCATELLI, MARTY GREIM, > and BRUCE HERSHENSON. > Bruce runs tons of ads recently on ebay, where he's selling movie posters He also has a website, which I'm sure is easily found... Steven Rowe --part1_d6.1d0b4f8.27ab8557_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/1/01 10:27:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com
writes:


?
   I am looking to get in contact with JOE BRANCATELLI, MARTY GREIM,
and BRUCE HERSHENSON.
   


Bruce runs tons of ads  recently on ebay, where he's selling  movie posters
He also has a website, which I'm sure is easily found...

Steven Rowe --part1_d6.1d0b4f8.27ab8557_boundary-- From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 01 19:44:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 03:44:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 44583 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 03:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 03:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 03:44:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.10.97] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 03:43:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 03:43:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <95dadc+dj5t@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c08c87$3b493160$9967e6ce@HPAuthorizedCustomer> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2305 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.27.138.84 From: "Jerry " Yup thats me Dave, how ya doing? are you working in comics now? I burned out finally. I use to have a blast at Chicago Con! I have played many a game of darts in that sports bar in the hotel. Man i wish i could smoke a Marlboro now! I quit over a year ago and i have wet dreams about smoking, wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night. If i had a choice between a FF#1 or one smoke...well i would need a light. Let me know what you are up to. Jerry --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Dave Rawlins" wrote: > Hey Jerry! > Didn't we meet once at the Chicago Con? Was it '94 or '95, I can't remember? If you're the same Jerry Foley I'm sure you'll remember waiting seemingly forever in line to have our portfolio's reviewed at the Dark Horse booth. Anyhoo. great to see you here, and thanks for the smokes I bummed off you! > Best, > Dave Rawlins > http://www.zoomnet.net/~odbs/rawlins.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry > To: comicbookfanzines@y... > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:17 PM > Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Hello > > > Just a quick post to introduce myself, I am Jerry Foley, 39 yrs old, > married and living in Kentucky. I use to contribute artwork and > articles to fanzines in the 70's and 80's. I actually worked up the > nerve to even publish one of two zines back then too. I also inked > some comicwork in the 80's and 90's, mostly independents. > > I am currently not doing much fanzine wise, I belong to a e-group > called Ultrazine, which is a fanzine that was published in the 70's > by Matt Bucher. Almost all of the members contibuted or bought the > zine, although it is not limited to only those that did contribute. I > am doing a little artwork for an upcoming Ultrazine special the Jason > Sacks is publishing this spring. > > Thats about it, i hope some of you that still publish zines will post > and address and price so some of us can buy your stuff. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Do you know the name you want? Enter the domain name below and press GO! > www. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@y... From dmilano@home.com Thu Feb 01 19:44:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: dmilano@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 03:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 36904 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 03:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 03:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.82) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 03:44:38 -0000 Received: from [192.168.123.189] ([24.16.54.29]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010202034416.KWBR27594.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[192.168.123.189]> for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:44:16 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:44:22 -0800 Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] COMIC FANDOM MONTHY #7 Re-cap To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <95d7bv+srjr@eGroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Dominic Milano on 2/1/01 6:51 PM, Blake Bell at ditko37@home.com wrote: > COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #7 (Apr '72) would be the final issue > of its run. Editor Brancatelli lost $150 a month on a print run > of 1000 and circulation of 850 copies (at a buck a piece). > For fans of STEVE DITKO, this issue would be especially sweet. > Following up on the previous issue's article, THE DITKO PHILOSOPHY, > Ditko himself tries to clear up some misconceptions with his OWN > article, DITKO ON DITKO. It's runs 2 1/2 pages, boasting the > interesting comment "I don't know why anyone figured that I'm for > democracy" (it ain't whatcha think). After speding all of a few hours in lurk-mode, I've gotta ask what any self-respecting Ditko fan who missed these issues of CFN is wondering: is there's any chance you could post the Ditko on Ditko stories from these issues on the Ditko Looked Up site or get a CFN photocopy package going? In any case, thanks Blake. Cheers, Dom From ltucker@rt66.com Thu Feb 01 20:00:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 04:00:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 17015 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 04:00:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 04:00:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 05:01:11 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm01.rt66.com [206.206.85.51]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05919 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:00:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7A3128.275BFF80@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:01:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] COMIC FANDOM MONTHLY #6 & 7 Re-Cap References: <3A7937E5.5EC0CE9E@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Nice recaps of the zines, Blake - thanks for these! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ltucker@rt66.com Thu Feb 01 20:03:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 04:03:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 82272 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 04:03:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 04:03:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 05:04:18 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm01.rt66.com [206.206.85.51]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA06394 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:03:12 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7A31E3.730071E0@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:04:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Nice scans in FILES section, guys! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Thanks to FANZINE LOVER and GCOLAN for the scans they've left in the FILES section - some really cool stuff I'd not seen before! I've downloaded some covers, as well. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From RJCroxton@aol.com Thu Feb 01 20:41:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 04:41:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16553 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 04:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 04:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 04:41:06 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.9c.b4bb573 (4568) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:40:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9c.b4bb573.27ab9455@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:40:53 EST Subject: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9c.b4bb573.27ab9455_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com --part1_9c.b4bb573.27ab9455_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gordon Green says: I also put up a scan for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 which I did the cover art featuring The Claw! I could list the address for that as well if there's interest. ( I also wrote an article on the Claw for that issue !)Gord Thanks Gord, I enjoyed reading your Claw article. My name is Richard Croxton, I publish a small 'zine called TALES FROM THE ATTIC. Thanks to Gord and Bill Nolan I've been able to reprint some obscure Golden Age comics stories. TFTA is a bi-monthly mag that has reprinted some unusual heroes from the G.A. in Black and White, with #5 having all the stories in color. The mag also has reviews in every issue from the gold, silver and modern ages. Articles, and text stories. I've been lucky to have so many people willing to contribute to my zine. As Gordon has mentioned he has done an excellent job of the Claw cover for TFTA #5, also he has done the cover for #4 and #6 being a color cover drawn by Gord and colored by Stefan Dogaru. As soon as Stefan is done I'll post the cover if any are interested. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 --part1_9c.b4bb573.27ab9455_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gordon Green says:
I also put up a scan for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 which I did the cover art
featuring The Claw! I could list the address for that as well if there's
interest. ( I also wrote an article on the Claw for that issue !)Gord  

Thanks Gord, I enjoyed reading your Claw article.

My name is Richard Croxton, I publish a small 'zine called TALES FROM THE
ATTIC. Thanks to Gord and Bill Nolan I've been able to reprint some obscure
Golden Age comics stories. TFTA is a bi-monthly mag that has reprinted some
unusual heroes from the G.A. in Black and White, with #5 having all the
stories in color. The mag also has reviews in every issue from the gold,
silver and modern ages. Articles,  and text stories.

I've been lucky to have so many people willing to contribute to my zine. As
Gordon has mentioned he has done an excellent job of the Claw cover for TFTA
#5, also he has done the cover for #4 and #6 being a color cover drawn by
Gord and colored by Stefan Dogaru. As soon as Stefan is done I'll post the
cover if any are interested.


Richard Croxton

TALES FROM THE ATTIC  
Copies are $4 each postpaid.
Richard Croxton
4612 Eastwood
Little Rock, AR
72204 --part1_9c.b4bb573.27ab9455_boundary-- From Army_of_Gideon@yahoo.com Thu Feb 01 21:48:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: army_of_gideon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 05:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11570 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 05:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 05:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9606.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.185) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 05:48:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20010202054813.26788.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.208.203.122] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:48:13 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:48:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9c.b4bb573.27ab9455@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gordon Stewart Golden age comics huh. Im about to do an interview with one of the few golden age artists still alive for a small Apa Gordon Stewart --- RJCroxton@aol.com wrote: > Gordon Green says: > I also put up a scan for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 > which I did the cover art > featuring The Claw! I could list the address for > that as well if there's > interest. ( I also wrote an article on the Claw for > that issue !)Gord > > Thanks Gord, I enjoyed reading your Claw article. > > My name is Richard Croxton, I publish a small 'zine > called TALES FROM THE > ATTIC. Thanks to Gord and Bill Nolan I've been able > to reprint some obscure > Golden Age comics stories. TFTA is a bi-monthly mag > that has reprinted some > unusual heroes from the G.A. in Black and White, > with #5 having all the > stories in color. The mag also has reviews in every > issue from the gold, > silver and modern ages. Articles, and text stories. > > > I've been lucky to have so many people willing to > contribute to my zine. As > Gordon has mentioned he has done an excellent job of > the Claw cover for TFTA > #5, also he has done the cover for #4 and #6 being a > color cover drawn by > Gord and colored by Stefan Dogaru. As soon as Stefan > is done I'll post the > cover if any are interested. > > > Richard Croxton > > TALES FROM THE ATTIC > Copies are $4 each postpaid. > Richard Croxton > 4612 Eastwood > Little Rock, AR > 72204 > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From bwrcreeper@hotmail.com Thu Feb 01 22:47:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bwrcreeper@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 06:47:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 65095 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 06:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 06:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 06:47:31 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:47:30 -0800 Received: from 149.159.24.51 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 06:47:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.159.24.51] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] COMIC FANDOM MONTHY #7 Re-cap Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:47:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2001 06:47:30.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[0390FE80:01C08CE4] From: "Mike Quilligan" From: "Blake Bell" > The issue also has a nice article by Tom Greeniones called >UNDERSTANDING KIRBY, dealing with the 8 sterotypical characters in >which Kirby deals. This sounds like it would be an interesting article. Any chance for a posting in files, perhaps? Mike Quilligan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bwrcreeper@hotmail.com Fri Feb 02 00:25:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bwrcreeper@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 08:25:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 82934 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 08:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 08:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.188) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 08:25:01 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:52:35 -0800 Received: from 149.159.24.51 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 06:52:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.159.24.51] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: An Introduction Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:52:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2001 06:52:35.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[B91C0FB0:01C08CE4] From: "Mike Quilligan" Hello, I suppose it's about time I introduced myself. My name's Mike Quilligan, and I joined from the invitation over on the GCD list. I'm 19, and a student at Indiana University. Obviously, I'm too young to have participated in the fanzine movement, but have an interest in the growth of fandom, and am passionate about the artists, writers and politics of comics during the peak of fandom. More than likely, I'll lurk, as I can't reminisce along, but I look forward to your insights and such. Keep 'em flying, Mike Quilligan -------------- PERSONAL by Tuli Kupferberg from SF12, published 1968 by Dell There once was an atom bomb who wanted to be a bullet. "Why," said his fellow atom bombs, "when you can be a great A-Bomb, do you want to be a little bullet?" "I miss," said the bomb, sighing, "the personal touch." ---------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 02 04:36:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 12:36:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 41489 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 12:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 12:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 12:36:44 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06607 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:36:43 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.51] (fre-41.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.51]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA06521 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:36:42 -0600 Message-Id: <200102021236.GAA06521@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] COMIC FANDOM MONTHY #7 Re-cap Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 06:35:13 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm > There is an obit for Edwin M. Aprill, and a table of contents of >all the previous issues of C.F.M. > Brancatelli would move on to the position of managing editor of >MONSTER TIMES and (more importantly to me) publish the first titled >MR. A. volume in 1973; an over-sized, 50 cent book, featuring a >new wraparound cover and nine pages story, plus reprinted material >from COMIC CRUSADER and THE COLLECTOR. Blake, Joe Branc is better known (to me) for editing INSIDE COMICS which appeared = in RBCC and TBG a couple times before being launched as its own magazine wh= ich went after news stand space in larger markets. 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From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From ditko37@home.com Fri Feb 02 05:42:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 13:42:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 88147 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 13:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 13:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 13:42:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.105] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 13:42:08 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:42:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: COMIC FANDOM MONTHY #7 Re-cap Message-ID: <95edff+inut@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102021236.GAA06521@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1158 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.197.166.58 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > Joe Branc is better known (to me) for editing INSIDE COMICS which > appeared in RBCC and TBG a couple times before being launched as > its own magazine which went after news stand space in larger > markets. I bought it wholesale to resell at comics shows. Ahh, yes. This I should know, as I won a copy of INSIDE COMICS #2, from Sum '74, on E-Bay last month. It had the infamous Ditko article "Who Owns Original Art?" (reprinted in THE DITKO COLLECTION #2, 8/86). The real question is where to reach Joe B. today? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Fri Feb 02 11:01:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 19:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 75944 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 18:52:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 18:52:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 18:52:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.110] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 18:52:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 18:52:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Message-ID: <95evlf+q11a@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95c08m+n8or@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 422 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" > P.S. I have been working on a massive listing of fanzines for years now. It is built using an older version of Microsoft Access. It is a VERY large file. How could I upload this so the group could see it? Could you run a query in Access, export the data to Excel and upload the listing as an Excel document? Or you could export it to Excel, publish the Excel page as HTML and upload it to a website. - Jason From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Fri Feb 02 11:25:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23020 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 19:19:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 19:19:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 19:19:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.10.102] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 19:19:45 -0000 Date: 2 Feb 2001 19:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <981141584.1610.7200.sc@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: poll From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New poll for comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the comicbookfanzines group: Steve Ditko is really (since allegedly there is no photo of him): o A tall light haired man o A guy who looks like a character in his Atlas work o A guy who justs wants to be left alone o A great co-creator of Marvel who should be better compensated o Stan Lee To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/polls Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 11:40:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 19:40:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 93370 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 19:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 19:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 19:31:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 19:31:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:31:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I agree Message-ID: <95f1ui+t2uj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 992 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.65 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" It would be nice to know where some of the talent from the early days are now. It's great Frazetta has a Gallery and still does some work but what happened to Fantucchio? Lots of nice covers for the RBCC by him. Did he ever illustrate a comic? A Fanzine list would be nice but so would a short biography of each creator--if living they should be asked if they want a offer a 1000 word bio about themselves. I wonder if Bud Plant would carry it. I will if it is ever created (A list of all zines; A price List of all zines--forget it no one would agree); Is Fred Patton still keeping K-A (Capa Alpha) alive (sold most of my copies to Dave Smith who use to own (and still does in some manner) Rocket Comics). Also thanks to Blake Bell for getting this discussion going. Actually I'd like a hardbound collection of books of everything Ditko has ever done. In a manner similar to the Marvel Masterworks series. Has someone contacted Forrest J. Ackerman the "king" of fans. From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 11:46:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 19:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7834 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 19:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 19:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 19:34:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 19:34:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:34:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Looking Forward. Message-ID: <95f23b+s468@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <959be2+vfk0@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1047 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.65 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" So what did happen with Fujitani? Or the zine Energumen? http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/comic_books.htm Rob Gustaveson --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., dickinsonwalter@y... wrote: > My exposure to zines is largely restricted to Comic Book ARtist > and the Comics Journal. My reading of Comic Book Artist has lead me > to try and seek out fanzines from earlier eras that print obscure > info and interviews on important, but all but forgotten artists. > This medium has such a rich history and a wealth of talent. > > Everyone knows about Kirby, Ditko etc., but what about extremely > talented folks like Bob Fujitani, John Prentice, Matt Baker etc. > Although major names, you rarely see much on them. John B. Cooke > is doing a superb job. > > I hope this list will lead to the dissemination of information > about alot of these forgotten artists that lies between the covers > of small press wonders. Hopefully some trading too. > > Good luck with this new list. I really look forward to it. > > Walter Dickinson > Toronto, ON From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 11:53:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 19:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14874 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 19:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 19:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 19:38:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.207] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 19:38:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:38:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Graphic Story Magazine #10 Message-ID: <95f2c3+aom3@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <959dmd+kdat@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 209 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.65 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" I could use "any" issue of Gothic Blimp Works. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., mayerson@m... wrote: > Does anybody on this list have a copy of Graphic Story > Magazine #10 that they'd be willing to part with? From ogden@csd.com Fri Feb 02 12:11:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 20:11:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 36924 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 20:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 20:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 20:01:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.4.67] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 20:01:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:01:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Message-ID: <95f3nb+avm6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95evlf+q11a@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1068 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.49 From: ogden@csd.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jason Sacks" wrote: > > > P.S. I have been working on a massive listing of fanzines for > years now. It is built using an older version of Microsoft Access. > It is a VERY large file. How could I upload this so the group could > see it? > > Could you run a query in Access, export the data to Excel and upload > the listing as an Excel document? Or you could export it to Excel, > publish the Excel page as HTML and upload it to a website. > > - Jason I think I can figure out how to do that. I'll experiment around with a small portion of it to see if I can do it and if so follow up with the entire thing. Right now the list contains all types of fanzines [SF, horror, comics, D&D, S&S, SCA,,,] (and even some non-fanzine stuff like small press minis, undergrounds, college humor mags, etc. Would the group just like to see it all, or do you want me to edit it down to just comics fanzines? And keep in mind it is a work in progress and full of holes, errors and ghod knows what. - Steve From ogden@csd.com Fri Feb 02 12:36:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 20:36:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 50211 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 20:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 20:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mk.egroups.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 20:27:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 20:27:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:27:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95f56u+nlbr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 427 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.49 From: ogden@csd.com I just added an Excel file to FILES. I named this JUST A TEST. It is just the first 100 or so lines of my fanzine list. Can everyone read this? Is anyone having problems seeing it? Let me know. If it worked I'll put more up later. By the way, is there some way to make the FILES list alphabetical? As it is now if I want to find say the cover scan to Alter Ego #4 I have to search all over for it. Help. - Steve From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 12:37:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 20:37:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 46912 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 20:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 20:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 20:28:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.100] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 20:28:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:28:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Yes! Message-ID: <95f5a8+ssv7@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f3nb+avm6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1573 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.65 From: "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" Would like to see it (zine list you have created) as a web page-- series of web pages. ALL of it! http://homestead.deja.com/user.greenmoss/robscomics.html http://homestead.deja.com/user.greenmoss/graphiczine.html http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/comic_books.htm My article--input requested http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/ninth-nebula.html This site will rapidly change weekly! --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jason Sacks" wrote: > > > > > P.S. I have been working on a massive listing of fanzines for > > years now. It is built using an older version of Microsoft Access. > > > It is a VERY large file. How could I upload this so the group could > > see it? > > > > Could you run a query in Access, export the data to Excel and upload > > the listing as an Excel document? Or you could export it to Excel, > > publish the Excel page as HTML and upload it to a website. > > > > - Jason > > I think I can figure out how to do that. I'll experiment around with > a small portion of it to see if I can do it and if so follow up with > the entire thing. > > Right now the list contains all types of fanzines [SF, horror, comics, > D&D, S&S, SCA,,,] (and even some non-fanzine stuff like small press > minis, undergrounds, college humor mags, etc. Would the group just > like to see it all, or do you want me to edit it down to just comics > fanzines? And keep in mind it is a work in progress and full of > holes, errors and ghod knows what. > > - Steve From ditko37@home.com Fri Feb 02 12:54:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 20:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 45445 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 20:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 20:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 20:42:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 20:42:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:42:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re-Orging The FILES Section (Was Re: Fanzine List) Message-ID: <95f63e+cl8m@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f56u+nlbr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1216 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.148.143.181 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: > By the way, is there some way to make the FILES list alphabetical? > As it is now if I want to find say the cover scan to Alter Ego #4 I > have to search all over for it. Help. > > - Steve It appears the FILES section reads capital letters before lower-case, rather than just purely alphabetical. When we build up a whole bunch more covers, I'm going to build folders for each of the fanzines of which we have the most. That will make the first page in the FILES section more viewer-friendly. And that's a great cover to Fantasy Illustrated #1 from 1963! Who did the art on that one? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Fri Feb 02 13:09:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 21:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 51480 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 21:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 21:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 21:02:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.74] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 21:02:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:02:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95f78r+av30@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f56u+nlbr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 339 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" The Excel file works great for me. Let's see the rest! This list is amazing! - Jason > I just added an Excel file to FILES. I named this JUST A TEST. It is > just the first 100 or so lines of my fanzine list. Can everyone read > this? Is anyone having problems seeing it? Let me know. If it > worked I'll put more up later. From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 02 13:25:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 21:25:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 76407 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 21:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 21:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:16:57 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17293 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:15:51 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.191] (ppp50.netimaging.com [208.136.132.191]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA17208 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:15:50 -0600 Message-Id: <200102022115.PAA17208@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re-Orging The FILES Section (Was Re: Fa Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 15:14:20 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm > And that's a great cover to Fantasy Illustrated #1 from 1963! >Who did the art on that one? Landon Chesney comes to mind - maybe even inked by Bob Overstreet bob From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 02 13:37:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 21:37:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21322 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 21:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 21:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 21:28:58 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02776 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:28:57 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.154] (ppp13.netimaging.com [208.136.132.154]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA02690 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:28:55 -0600 Message-Id: <200102022128.PAA02690@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Death of a Fandom Founding Father Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 15:27:26 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm hey, if you ain't going to talk about GB Love in this thread header, please change it bob From GaryB98294@aol.com Fri Feb 02 13:47:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 21:47:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14839 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 21:39:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 21:39:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:40:20 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.9d.10bf5522 (15699) for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from web50.aolmail.aol.com (web50.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.11]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77.35) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:39:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:39:07 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] New poll for comicbookfanzines To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <9d.10bf5522.27ac82fb@aol.com> From: GaryB98294@aol.com A photo of Ditko appears on one of the Web sites about his work. I'll have to look it up this weekend and pass it along. Nope, doesn't look like I imagined he would. From ogden@csd.com Fri Feb 02 13:56:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 21:56:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 45827 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 21:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 21:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (208.50.99.220) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:50:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 21:49:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:49:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re-Orging The FILES Section (Was Re: Fanzine List) Message-ID: <95fa0u+t5b7@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f63e+cl8m@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 872 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.49 From: ogden@csd.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Blake Bell" wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: > > By the way, is there some way to make the FILES list alphabetical? > > As it is now if I want to find say the cover scan to Alter Ego #4 I > > have to search all over for it. Help. > > > > - Steve > > It appears the FILES section reads capital letters before > lower-case, rather than just purely alphabetical. > When we build up a whole bunch more covers, I'm going to build > folders for each of the fanzines of which we have the most. That will > make the first page in the FILES section more viewer-friendly. > And that's a great cover to Fantasy Illustrated #1 from 1963! > Who did the art on that one? > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. Thanks for the info - I hadn't noticed that. It's so obvious now. - Steve From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 14:11:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 22:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 29823 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 22:05:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 22:05:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO f19.egroups.com) (10.1.2.136) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:05:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.110] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 22:05:27 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:05:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New poll for comicbookfanzines Message-ID: <95fav4+jj9l@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9d.10bf5522.27ac82fb@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 533 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.171 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Would love to see it--an acutl photo of Ditko--please email me when you post it graphic_illusion@mindspring.com! For me Kirby, Ditko and Lee were the foundation of Marvel. Then thee were other pillars: various, editors, authors and artists. http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/comic_books.htm --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., GaryB98294@a... wrote: > A photo of Ditko appears on one of the Web sites about his work. I'll have to look it up this weekend and pass it along. Nope, doesn't look like I imagined he would. From ogden@csd.com Fri Feb 02 14:16:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 22:16:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26238 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 22:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 22:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:10:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.63] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 22:09:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:09:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95fb7a+u5qr@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f78r+av30@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2119 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.49 From: ogden@csd.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jason Sacks" wrote: > The Excel file works great for me. Let's see the rest! This list is > amazing! > > - Jason OK - here it is. I deleted the JUST A TEST File and added FANZINE LIST. This is the entire (almost 2 Mg) file. This takes up a lot of space - e-groups only allows 20 Mg and we've already used up 1/4th of it. If space becomes an issue maybe this list can be moved somewhere else... I am constantly updating this list! I have recently finished incorporating my notes up through the letter K, so the first half of this is probably cleaner than the last half. There is much missing info! I'm sure there is a lot of incorrect info as well. Maybe with everyones help we can make this list a very accurate picture of what fanzines were published during the last 50 years or so. Some info on the list: It is sorted alphabetically by Title then Issue. It contains the following fields: Title Issue Month - Month published Year - Year published Pages - giving the number of pages for each issue Printed - the type of printing (ditto, mimeograph, offset, etc) Size - size of the zine (8.5 X 11, 5.5 X 8.5, etc) Coverprice - the price of the zine when published Printrun - the number of copies printed Binding - side stapled, wrap around, etc [mostly blank at this time] Source - Where did I hear about this fanzine (HOI means House of Info and refers to John McGeehan's list of fanzines he reviewed) Source Date - Mostly blank - I haven't gotten around to this column Subject - Comics, Science Fiction, ERB, Sword & Sorcery, D&D, etc Type - Fanzine, Pro-zine, Magazine Notes - Anything that seems pertinent. Some info here refers specifically to the copy in my collection (like signed by...) Editor - the name of the editor and/or publisher Publisher - name of the publisher Country - mostly blank - my intent is to put foreign country names here - there are a lot of british, australian, etc zines Edition - 1st, 2nd, etc All comments welcome! I'll keep updating this list as I have time to make updates to the database. - Steve From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 14:17:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 22:17:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 90062 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 22:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 22:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:10:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.56] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 22:10:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:10:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: RBCC Message-ID: <95fb7o+uv2s@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1604 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.171 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I'm turning 50 this month so I can relate--but I blame my bad memory on too much caffeine (not coffee--12 Cokes a day for a long time; I hear too much sex is bad for us too but I'm still willing to find out). You are famous. Wonder if we have ever crossed paths at a big comic con. I guess I know your name mostly since you published zines before me--many of which I own or owned (storage too full). (Keep hoping someone will buy me out). You are quoted a lot. http://graphic-illusion.com http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/nncomics3.htm --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/31/01 8:42:44 PM, Jimvanhise@a... writes: > > >I'm working on it now. I sent the listing to Diamond Previews 3 weeks ago > >so > >I hope to get it out by early May. It will include an article about G.B. > > > >Love, who passed away two weeks ago. I wrote a piece about him for Comics > > > >Buyer's Guide which should be in the issue they just mailed.--Jim Van Hise > > > > May I suggest that if we are all to follow the many threads on this and other > lists we belong to, we need to provide a copy of the relevant portion of a > message we are responding to. I can only guess what Jim is responding to > above, because I have several dozen messages to go through before I can match > up his with the one he is responding to, and I'm too old to remember every > message I read in the last few days. (Over 50) Help me out. (Okay, so I can > guess in this case, but don't count on my lousy memory to work in every case.) > > Bestest, > > Jerry From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 14:22:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 22:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 67124 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 22:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 22:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 22:18:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.123] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2001 22:18:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:18:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Compiling A List Of ALL Fanzines Message-ID: <95fbo8+71a3@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102011342.HAA09935@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1298 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.171 From: "Rob Gustaveson" My friend Rob Gluckson has spoken of you often. Do you remember a Barry Bauman?! Bought mint ec's out the truck of his car when I was 15 years old! He delivered. (I tried that later with my Van--I'd drive down streets with a sign on it--a few times I stopped and sold comics--kind of like an ice cream man). Anyway Gluckson's email is gluckson@prodigy.net (in case you did not have it). I may have met you. Regards. Rob http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/nncomics.htm --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Back about 30+ years ago, I published a listing of all known comics fanzines > >in my fanzine, THE PANELOLOGIST. I'll try to find a copy to get you > >started. > > The major source you need to tap is John McGeehan, whose address someone on > >this list must have. John (and his deceased brother Tom) kept double copies > >of all fanzines (comics and those closely related to comics) for decades and > >from time to time published listings in CAPA-alpha, the first > >comics-oriented > >comics APA. John is (I believe) still a member of K-a; in fact, he is the > >longest surviving founding member of that APA, which I started back in Oct., > >1964. > > Jerry, > It was John who is dead, Tom is still in K-A > > bob From mail@aspublications.com Fri Feb 02 15:05:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@aspublications.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 2 Feb 2001 23:05:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 50008 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 23:05:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2001 23:05:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 23:05:03 -0000 Received: from pavilion.aspublications.com (dialup-209.244.150.16.Orlando1.Level3.net [209.244.150.16]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24342 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:05:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010202175821.00a0e8f0@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 18:12:52 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: My Fanzine.... In-Reply-To: <981148315.118804.71246.l9@yahoogroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: A&S Publications I started a comics club back in the 70's and it still gets advertised in CBG. (I have to change my address) It was a club called Open Minded Comics Club and I put out a monthly fanzine. People could send in anything they wanted. (except very adult content) Since I was into Ditko many of the covers were Ditko characters. I did a Blue Beetle and a Creeper cover. My first issue I wrote about V for Vandetta from Warrior magazine. A issue of mine could go from Archie to Love and Rockets. Artwork were from kids as young as 5 years old. My friend who worked night at my company ran off the copies. We produced at our peak 500 copies a month. All you had to was send a LSASE. I don't know if I was the first but I did my own Flash of Two Worlds cover. Before PC's and desktop publishing I had to cut, paste and photocopy to create the master for copying. Then I had to fold and stuff all the envelopes. I was still doing this annually up until 1999 when I had to be hospitalized. I just moved from New York to Florida but I hope to put out a issue maybe later this year. I always enjoyed fanzines and magazines sometimes more than the comics themselves. Aaron Deutsch MrA@1st-media.com From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Fri Feb 02 16:03:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 00:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 97961 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 00:03:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.110] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 00:03:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:03:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: My Fanzine.... Message-ID: <95fhs0+jlih@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010202175821.00a0e8f0@www.1st-media.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1424 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" Do you have any back issues left? If you do publish this year, please let us know on the group. I know I'd love to do something, and my daughter (age 8) would, too. - Jason > I started a comics club back in the 70's and it still gets advertised in > CBG. (I have to change my address) It was a club called Open Minded Comics > Club and I put out a monthly fanzine. People > could send in anything they wanted. (except very adult content) Since I was > into Ditko many of the > covers were Ditko characters. I did a Blue Beetle and a Creeper cover. My > first issue I wrote about V for Vandetta from Warrior magazine. A issue of > mine could go from Archie to Love and Rockets. Artwork > were from kids as young as 5 years old. My friend who worked night at my > company ran off the > copies. We produced at our peak 500 copies a month. All you had to was send > a LSASE. I don't > know if I was the first but I did my own Flash of Two Worlds cover. Before > PC's and desktop publishing > I had to cut, paste and photocopy to create the master for copying. Then I > had to fold and stuff all > the envelopes. I was still doing this annually up until 1999 when I had to > be hospitalized. I just moved > from New York to Florida but I hope to put out a issue maybe later this > year. I always enjoyed fanzines > and magazines sometimes more than the comics themselves. > > Aaron Deutsch > MrA@1... From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 02 16:07:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 00:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 76257 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 00:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 00:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 01:06:24 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07540 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:05:19 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.189] (ppp48.netimaging.com [208.136.132.189]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA07455 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:05:17 -0600 Message-Id: <200102030005.SAA07455@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Barry Bauman (Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Compiling Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 18:03:47 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >My friend Rob Gluckson has spoken of you often. Do you remember a=20 >Barry Bauman?! Bought mint ec's out the truck of his car when I was=20 >15 years old! He delivered. (I tried that later with my Van--I'd=20 >drive down streets with a sign on it--a few times I stopped and sold=20 >comics--kind of like an ice cream man). Anyway Gluckson's email is >gluckson@prodigy.net (in case you did not have it). I may have met=20 >you. Regards. Rob Rob, I remember Rob Gluckson, the 1972 LA SF World Con, Dave Gibson as "The Turd= " , fire works off the top of the roof - one rocket singing some primal scr= eam RG in the royal posterior, all kinds of things. -:) Bruce Simon - remember him? you were LA comics club also, were you not? Y= ou went to the earlier SD Comicons? Supercons Stroud & Alexander put on in= Hollywood in the 70s? Sorry to report, Barry Bauman was killed in a head on collesion in northern= California (Mendicino County?) a few years back driving his black 67 Corve= tte. I road in that classic a few times. When I had my store in the Haigh= t Ashbury, Barry & I would hit "The Other Cafe" to listen to guys like Robi= n Williams hone their improv material. He came into the Haight quite often= . We had been friends for a while towards the end of his life. Barry put out fanzines with Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay and Rudi Franke - on= es coming to mind include Heroes Hang Out and Voice of Comicdom, among othe= rs. Some years back while doing iitial research for my history book Iam still w= orking on, I spent a couple days xeroxing many of Barry's extensive early = fanzine collection dating some of them back to 1958 such as George Bibby's = legendary adzine The Fantasy Collector. #10 from 1958 announced Claude Hel= d was holding a 20th Anniverary sale, having been dealing since 1939.=20=20 Hearing about Barry was a blow like hearing about G.B. He'll be missed. Roger Hill informed me today that John Benson is getting another issue of S= qua Tront together to come out soon - later this year. Roger is working on= EC Fan Addict #2; #1 being a giveaway to the attendants of the SD Comicon = EC reunion dinner. maybe we will be heading into the fanzine revival thru the comic stores & s= hows. -:) cheers bob Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 16:35:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 00:35:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2937 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 00:35:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 00:35:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web705.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.25) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 01:36:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1568 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2001 00:35:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20010203003547.1567.qmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.6.123] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:35:47 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:35:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Story about the little girl who started a T. Casey Brennan fan club in New York... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" This is about the little girl who puts up the T. Casey Brennan fan page at: http://my.treeway.com/sweet_pretty/X2K7HFGV68BC0I.htm JACKIE OF THE OLD PLACES AND THE DEATH OF BARON GEORGE DEMOHRENSCHILDT by T. Casey Brennan Copyright 2000 by T. Casey Brennan This is the story of Jackie of the Old Places. No, this is the story of how I sold my soul to the devil in 1958; my mother wrote gothic novels and was a little crazy, so she made me read the Lord's Prayer backward in front of a black candle on Ember Day. I was nine years old, I think, but she gave me up to the Old Ones. She called them up from the Old Places. And it was so easy. I grew up in an old farmhouse in Michigan; born in 1948, my earliest memories were of books so old, that now they would be considered quite archaic: children's books of cloth pages, illustrated with grim, unsmiling visages of Mother Goose or Aesop. Books of old stories and legends with pages so brittle, that corners flaked off at the turning, books made for the children of my father's era, when students were routinely beaten, sometimes to death, by their teachers. Legend has it that the Brennan family came to Michigan from Canada, when a teacher had inflicted fatal punishment on one of their children. The child was forced repeatedly, in the course of a day, to stand in front of a hot furnace, then to stand outside in the brutal Canadian cold of winter, again and again. The child died of pneumonia. The Brennans, seeing this as part of a death plot against Irish Catholics, left Canada. Old Books. Collections of stories and essays by Nathaniel Hawthorne, Washington Irving, Voltaire, and Cotton Mather. And sometimes, not here, but in the OLD Places, where THEY wait (coiled serpents who once ruled, for Aeons before man, they ruled, now they long to take back their world), beneath the Earth, sometimes only a heartbeat away, there, and only there, I beheld the Necronomicon. So, I guess it was a book like that where my mother, soon-to-be Gothic novelist, Alice Brennan, found the story about how to sell your soul to the devil by reading the Lord's Prayer backward on, I remember the book called it, "Amber Day". So my mother decided it must be EMBER Day, which has something to do with Lent, I think, I forget what. So, on Ember Day, she took a copy of the Our Father, and started typing it out backward. Then she stopped, and half-smiled and half-cried, and said: "Casey, I don't want to do this!" But she kept typing anyway, and I read, "Nema, live morf su reviled..." On Ember Day. And here it is, almost half a century later, and I have a GOOD job emptying garbage at the Taco Bell, plus they're going to give me some more hours now. But this was the story of Jackie of the Old Places. She summoned me up from Hell. A decade ago, I had been in a homeless shelter. Now, T. Casey Brennan Internet fan pages spring up constantly. One of them is by a brilliant 13 year old computer student named Jackie. Of all the T. Casey Brennan fan page posters, she is the most attentive, and the most skilled. She sends news that enemy nations have accessed her T. Casey Brennan fan page repeatedly: Iran, Iraq, Cuba. I immediately gather emails for government officials in all three countries, and try to defect, not so much because I support their form of government, but because... Because when I was thirteen, I was being prepared for the blood. I had started school in 1953 in the first grade at five, so, in 1961, I entered Peck High School, in Sanilac County, later to become infamous as the alleged origin of the Oklahoma City bombing plot. At 13, I had already become enamored by the pamphlets provided me, sometimes in huge stacks, by my school board official parents' right-wing political friends. These ranged from the rabble rousing populism of Myron Fagan and the Cinema Educational Guild to the scholarly essays of Dr. Fred G. Schwartz of the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade, which shared offices with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans. Later, in my senior year, Peck teacher Robert Losie would teach a class called "Communism", based on the Christian Anti-Communist Crusade textbook, YOU CAN TRUST THE COMMUNISTS - TO BE COMMUNISTS by Fred G. Schwartz. At 13, it was eight years since, drugged and terrified, I had first met David Ferrie; two years since I had been taken before the hypnotist J.H. Earnshaw, D.O.; and another two years before those men would kidnap me from the Yale, Michigan airport on November 22, 1963, and force me to fire from the sixth floor storage room of the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dallas. In 1996, I wrote of that Hell in a story called "Conjurella", fictional because only some of the names had been changed. It had spurred, not government investigations, as SHOULD have been, but numerous T. Casey Brennan Internet fan pages, from the world over, reminiscent of my former fame as an award winning writer for the Warren comics, CREEPY, EERIE, and VAMPIRELLA, in the 1970s. Among these pages, is one by Jackie, the teen-age genius. She writes on her page and in her emails of mad rock stars and vampires. In dreams, I wonder: Is she, like me, of the Old Places? Did she, like me, call them up from Hell? Did she, like me, feel their yearning, those dark cold serpents who ruled before man, reveling in the endless darkness, breathing methane gas, now yearning to take back their ancient home, always waiting, always hoping, to take back the Earth in serpent glory? Did she, like me, smell their sulphurous breath, and chant, ABOMINATIONS, WALK, COME FORTH FROM THE OLD PLACES, TAKE BACK THE WORLD, TAKE BACK THE NIGHT? In the last month of the last year of the twentieth century, I write JACKIE OF THE OLD PLACES, four years after the world had accepted "Conjurella" as art, but dismissed it as testimony. So this is the story of Jackie of the Old Places, the REAL Jackie, who put up the great T. Casey Brennan fan page, who promoted me and said I had a fan club at her school, the REAL Jackie, who, at 13, posted my old comics from the 1970s, and tried to help me to defect to Iran, Iraq, or Cuba, the REAL Jackie, who, only in dreams, had given herself up on Amber Day to the serpents of the Old Places. The REAL Jackie, not the one in "Conjurella", not the one in David Ferrie's gunsight, as I collapsed to the floor after firing my single, only shot, trying desperately to push the braced rifle out the window as I fell, as my tormented father shouted through Ferrie's gunfire: "Don't shoot Jackie, Ferrie! Don't shoot Jackie, or I'll kill ya right now!" Somewhere on the Internet, I read that Baron George deMohrenschildt had something to do with a charity that had something to do with Jackie Kennedy. He had known Lee, and testified before the Warren Commission. Of my memory of him, demolished by Dr. Earnshaw's amnesiac injections, only this remains: he was a basicly good man, caught up by circumstance, not because of the Kennedy assassination, because none of us had anything to do with it (well, except for me, and I was so drugged and hypnotized and terrorized that I didn't even know what I was doing), but because of something else. DeMohrenschildt was of Russian birth. The war years had concealed the murderous purges of Stalin, as well as the true extent of the Nazi death camps. While Dresden burned under saturation bombing, railroad lines leading millions into camps like Auschwitz and Dachau went untouched by Allied attacks. And while Stalin carried out a similar persecution and murder of millions - some in Russia, and in the rebellious Soviet occupied Baltic states, chose to favor the temporary rescue from Stalin's troops that a Nazi victory might bring. Like my late mother's agent, Kurt Singer, served the O.S.S., deMohrenschildt served the Nazi intelligence apparatus. Those Russians who made this choice must be judged in the context of history; Stalin massacred whole villages - to a Russian whose parents had been killed by Stalin, those two deaths carried greater meaning than the six million Jews killed by the Nazis. DeMohrenschildt: I forgive you, now, too late, in the year 2000, more than twenty years after I have, unwittingly, brought about your death. Serpents of the Old Places, hear them: grant them peace, grant them rest. From the mid-'70s to the late '70s, I lived at Xanadu Cooperative House, at 1811 Washtenaw Avenue, in Ann Arbor. So it must have been around then that it happened. One day, Daddy said: "George deMohrenschildt says you're an awfully smart boy." Daddy shouldn't have said that. He knows he shouldn't have said that. Has he forgotten what David Ferrie and Dr. Earnshaw told us about talking about the people in Dallas? The CIA's MK-ULTRA trauma conditioning sets in. I must scare Daddy now, the way he scared me when I was a little boy. I must not remember about my single shot, must not know, not yet. I say: "Don't ever say that to me again!" Daddy smirks, and is silent. But it doesn't work. This is the second memory of JFK witness, Baron George deMohrenschildt. I first moved into Xanadu in 1974, but the memory of helping Dr. Earnshaw kill Baron deMohrenschildt must have come in the later years, sometime before I left for the last time, in, I think, 1980. 1973 had killed my mother and taken away the two girlfriends that I wrote about in the "Conjurella" sequel, "Conjurella Messiah: Necronomicon Monks". The automobile accident that had claimed my mother's life, had left my father a temporary cripple. I was 25 then, and alcoholism and irresponsibility and artistic idealism had left me the mental age of 13, the age that Jackie is now. So it was then that I met The Russian Girl, who wasn't a girl at all, but was almost three decades older than me. She and her husband offered to help. They brought food, did laundry, and offered consolation. The Russian Girl taught me how to make pancakes for my dad; when I lost her love, I lost that talent, and I never can again. One day, she was helping me wash dishes, and chattering about nonsense, and I couldn't take it any more, so I pushed her into a corner and kissed her. She was old, and wrinkled, and gorgeous. She said for two cents, she'd leave her husband and marry me, but I didn't have two cents, and she left me. It still hurts, even though now, she's probably in a nursing home, and hobbles along on a walker, trying to find her false teeth. But I'd still hold her again, the way I did... The way I did the last time. At first, we were so bold as to hug and kiss in the next room, as, nearby, her unsuspecting husband discussed sports and hunting with my bed-ridden dad, as I played the radio, loud. Then, in October of 1973, she took me to the Detroit Triple Fan Fair comic convention, where, as a celebrity guest, I was provided with a free table to sell all of my comic book collection, and move to Ann Arbor, or perish. Though my support at Warren Publishing Company had weakened, in October of 1973, I was still a comic book star, and fellow comic book stars like Barry Smith and Steve Skeates rallied about me. My dealer's table did well, but in a few weeks, I was broke in Ann Arbor, and I called again for the support of The Russian Girl. She met me in the bus station in Detroit, with a handful of tens and twenties, and a clipped out ad for a place advertising cheap nightly rooms, called, ironicly, the Camelot Hotel. Broken, penniless except for her money, homeless, half-orphaned, I held her again, told her that I would love her forever, and then, the tears came, as she broke away, slowly, gently. That was the last kiss of The Russian Girl. Nearby, a middle-aged woman looked sidelong at me in amusement as I wept. Lost and bewildered, I followed her exact directions on city buses to the rundown, cockroach-ridden Camelot Hotel, somewhere in Detroit's sprawling ghetto. In the morning, I returned to Ann Arbor, with The Russian Girl's money. By the summer of 1974, I had entered Xanadu Co-op in Ann Arbor, a combination of student housing and hippie commune, still intent on joining with the leftist campus activists, still intent on concealing my rightist past. There, I attempted to fraternize with campus Maoists and Trotskyites, learned the Hebrew Qabalah, and adopted a mode of thinking which termed my former friends, the conservatives, "neo-Nazis". All in all, students or not, the co-opers were a seedy, drunken, drug-infested lot, except for an ever changing contingent of upper class New York Jewish girls, whom I admired greatly, and were, through some strange quirk of fate, the only Xanaduvians who were ever nice to me. DeMohrenschildt, meanwhile, had beaten up his wife, been in and out of a mental institution, and reportedly had, in his last days, given himself over to the care of a mysterious doctor much like Dr. J.H. Earnshaw. In those days, I traveled back and forth repeatedly to stay at my father's house in Avoca, Michigan, alone with him now, no longer with the comforting arms of The Russian Girl. It must have been during one of those trips that it happened. Earnshaw, still intent on imposing CIA MK-ULTRA mind-control conditioning on me, though we had long since killed John Kennedy, took me into his office again. "You don't like Nazis now?" he said. Drunken by his poisonous injections again, I launch into a slurring rant. "Come on," he says, "There's something I want you to do." In the car, on the way, they program me with the words that will trigger the post-hypnotic commands that will end the life of the now chronicly suicidal Baron George deMohrenschildt. They take me to a phone booth and dial deMohrenschildt's number. DeMohrenschildt answers, and I identify myself. He is congenial, kind, pleased to hear from me: he always was. But there is no time to think now, no more time than there was in Dallas when David Ferrie ordered me to fire, no hope of defying them, no hope of being free of MK-ULTRA. "DIRTY NAZI BASTARD!" I say, "I HATE YOUR GUTS! KILL YOURSELF NOW! 764321 DIE! DIE, NAZI BASTARD, DIE!" I learn later that deMohrenschildt has killed himself with a shotgun blast to the head, while taping a television soap opera, so there would be no doubt that it was suicide and not murder, just before he was to testify before the House Assassinations Committee on the Kennedy assassination. But this was not the story of deMohrenschildt who had been forced into the service of the Nazis, not the story of the upper class Jewish girls I loved so much at Xanadu, not the story of The Russian Girl and her last kiss. This was the story of Jackie of the Old Places, not the Jackie that deMohrenschildt knew, but the little girl who put up the T. Casey Brennan fan page, and said I had a fan club at her school. Not because I ever really knew her, not because I ever met her or heard her voice, but because, somehow, I believed she was my last hope to solve the Kennedy assassination for the world. And in dreams, in dreams, in dreams, she is with me. 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72204 --part1_6.11a0494f.27acc3ce_boundary-- From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Feb 02 18:29:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 02:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 52827 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 02:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 02:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:30:15 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.38.11878cc3 (3945) for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:29:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38.11878cc3.27acc6f0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:29:04 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: RBCC To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/2/01 5:25:15 PM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: >I'm turning 50 this month so I can relate--but I blame my bad memory >on too much caffeine (not coffee--12 Cokes a day for a long time; I >hear too much sex is bad for us too but I'm still willing to find >out). You are famous. Wonder if we have ever crossed paths at a big >comic con. I guess I know your name mostly since you published zines >before me--many of which I own or owned (storage too full). (Keep >hoping someone will buy me out). You are quoted a lot. > Rob, I'm not much of a convention-goer. I can't stand on my legs for more than a few minutes without lots of pain. Even we I do attend a con, I tend to attend only special sit-down events and don't spend much time in dealer rooms. I meet most fans via the mails or internet, although I have met a lot of fans and pros while sitting in hotel lobbies. You weren't that fellow trying to push a Coke machine through a revolving door, were you? I'll have to tell my son about your experience with Coke. He's a cola junkie, and prides him himself on his memory. He's something of an almanac. Me? I'm happy to have a computer to remember things for me. Happy 50th birthday. Bestest, Jerry Take at look: http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 02 18:58:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 02:58:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 86464 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 02:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 02:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 02:58:12 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17910 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:58:12 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.161] (ppp20.netimaging.com [208.136.132.161]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17825 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:58:10 -0600 Message-Id: <200102030258.UAA17825@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Ditko Mug Shot Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 20:56:40 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >GaryB98294@aol.com wrote: >> >> A photo of Ditko appears on one of the Web sites about his work. >> I'll have to look it up this weekend and pass it along. Nope, doesn't >> look like I imagined he would. > > Who could it be with that web-site? I just can't guess. Could it be... > ...SATAN!!! > No, just me. Here it is...the moment you've been waiting for...DITKO!!! > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ditkopicfan.jpg > > It's been sitting in the ART OF ERIC STANTON, which you can get from >Bud Plant, for years, taken in Ditko's and Eric Stanton studio from the >late '50s to the mid '60s. the specific date is 1958 in that pic bob From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Feb 02 19:04:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 03:04:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 128 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:04:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 03:04:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:04:33 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf23.rt66.com [206.206.85.43]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17310 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:04:31 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7B75A4.391AB1C7@rt66.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:06:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Fanzine List References: <95f56u+nlbr@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Incredible list, Steve - thanks a million! It's gonna take a ream or two of paper to print it out. One question: is every zine here either comic or sci-fi/comic related? I ask because I see CAMERA OBSCURA listed, which was the name of a music zine my brother put out around the time you have listed. Thanks again for sharing this - a *ton* of work obviously went into it. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@home.com Fri Feb 02 19:17:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 03:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27738 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203031727.BRWE844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:17:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7B776B.851F3B6@home.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:13:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Ditko Mug Shot References: <200102030258.UAA17825@www.teknetwork.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Robert Beerbohm wrote: > > It's been sitting in the ART OF ERIC STANTON, which you can get from > >Bud Plant, for years, taken in Ditko's and Eric Stanton studio from the > >late '50s to the mid '60s. > > the specific date is 1958 in that pic > > bob Thanks, Bob, for the confirmation on that. Is there a giveaway in the picture I'm missing, or does the Stanton book credit it at such? And what's the deal with "ADVENTURE INTO MYSTERY" cover? That CAN'T be the published comic, can it? It looks like the original art to the cover. Same with the size on the STRANGE TALES OF THE UNUSUAL cover. Only problem is Ditko supposedly never did the covers for either, and only did a story in S.T.O.T.U. Am I dreaming or what? Not to mention the fact both titles weren't being published in 1958. And the picture is most likely taken by Stanton, as right under it in the book is a picture of Stanton, probably taken by Ditko. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From odbs@zoomnet.net Fri Feb 02 19:18:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 03:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 57555 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 03:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maynard.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.243) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:18:49 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-725-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [206.229.46.54]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA26580 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:18:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001301c08d8f$dd9bf840$362ee5ce@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: <95dadc+dj5t@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Hello Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:17:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C08D65.F3C28A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C08D65.F3C28A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry! I knew it had to be you. Yes I'm doing some comics stuff, could use a good= inker ( hint)! Email me off-list at odbs@zoomnet.net and I'll tell you mo= re.=20=20 Best, Dave ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerry=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Hello Yup thats me Dave, how ya doing? are you working in comics now? I=20 burned out finally. I use to have a blast at Chicago Con! I have=20 played many a game of darts in that sports bar in the hotel. Man i wish i could smoke a Marlboro now! I quit over a year ago and i=20 have wet dreams about smoking, wake up in a cold sweat in the middle=20 of the night. If i had a choice between a FF#1 or one smoke...well i=20 would need a light. Let me know what you are up to. Jerry =20=20=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C08D65.F3C28A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jerry!
I knew it had to be you.&nbs= p; Yes=20 I'm doing some comics stuff, could use a good inker ( hint)!  Email me= =20 off-list at odbs@zoomnet.net and I'= ll tell=20 you more. 
Best,
Dave  ----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 Je= rry=20
To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.c= om=20
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 = 10:43=20 PM
Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Re:=20 Hello

Yup thats me Dave, how ya doing? are you working in co= mics=20 now? I
burned out finally. I use to have a blast at Chicago Con! I ha= ve=20
played many a game of darts in that sports bar in the hotel.

M= an i=20 wish i could smoke a Marlboro now! I quit over a year ago and i
have = wet=20 dreams about smoking, wake up in a cold sweat in the middle
of the ni= ght.=20 If i had a choice between a FF#1 or one smoke...well i
would need a=20 light.

Let me know what you are up to.

Jerry

=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C08D65.F3C28A00-- From JimInks@aol.com Fri Feb 02 19:32:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JimInks@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 03:32:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 20151 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 03:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:32:43 -0000 Received: from JimInks@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.27.10edebdb (3860) for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:32:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27.10edebdb.27acd5cc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:32:28 EST Subject: about time! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JimInks@aol.com It's about time someone thought of this list. I'd have thought of it myself but if I had, I couldn't complain about the lateness of its creation. I think that's about all I can say right now. And it probably was too much! Let the e-mails begin!! -Jim Amash (who really sent this to make sure it's working.) From ditko37@home.com Fri Feb 02 19:44:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 03:44:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15158 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:44:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 03:44:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:44:33 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203034408.CLUA844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7B7E78.78805109@home.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:43:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] about time! References: <27.10edebdb.27acd5cc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell JimInks@aol.com wrote: > It's about time someone thought of this list. I'd have thought of it myself > but if I had, I couldn't complain about the lateness of its creation. > > -Jim Amash (who really sent this to make sure it's working.) Welcome aboard, Jim. Just today I was enjoying your old Alex Toth interview in C.B.A. #11. You really got into some of what makes Toth's style. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 20:20:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 04:20:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17681 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 04:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 04:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 04:20:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.67] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 04:20:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 04:20:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ditko Mug Shot Message-ID: <95g0tk+jdja@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A7B6688.306D3998@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1459 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.135 From: "Rob Gustaveson" EEK. Looks like a fan. Anyone know how he is doing. Working on any projects. Really curious what his first comic work was. Sure that isn't you Blake? --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > GaryB98294@a... wrote: > > > > A photo of Ditko appears on one of the Web sites about his work. > > I'll have to look it up this weekend and pass it along. Nope, doesn't > > look like I imagined he would. > > Who could it be with that web-site? I just can't guess. Could it be... > ...SATAN!!! > No, just me. Here it is...the moment you've been waiting for...DITKO!!! > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ditkopicfan.jpg > > It's been sitting in the ART OF ERIC STANTON, which you can get from > Bud Plant, for years, taken in Ditko's and Eric Stanton studio from the > late '50s to the mid '60s. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From darkmark90@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 21:01:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 05:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 62094 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 05:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 05:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 05:01:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.111] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 05:01:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 05:01:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: a note Message-ID: <95g3af+306f@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 326 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com Wondering if anyone has pages from the Carol Craig strip in JOURNEY INTO COMICS (filled with Kane and Dillin swipes, but still looked kind of nice), or the "gods" strip in AMAZING MASTERS whatever from the mid-Sixties? I know my memory's failing me on the latter, but I still thought it was an okay effort for back-then. From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Feb 02 21:52:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 05:52:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 93975 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 05:52:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 05:52:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.7) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 05:52:29 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.8c.1ecdda6 (4401) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:52:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c.1ecdda6.27acf699@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:52:25 EST Subject: Labeling the subject header To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Would it be possible to shorten the list header on the subject line to something like [comiczines] or even [cbzines] rather than [comicbookfanzines] in order that more of the subject line will appear in the space provided by our mailbox directories? Unless I open a piece of mail, I have no idea at present what the subject is because the list name is too long to appear in the directory. Since mail arrives out of order sometimes, I like to open mail on a particular subject rather than take each letter in wharever order, and I occasionally even skip a topic I'm not into to. That may sound like a sacrilege, but quite honestly, when one is on dozens of lists with different subjects, it is necessary to be a little choosey about which letters to open and when. If this suggestion has any support and is reasonably easy to do, maybe the list moderator could arrange it. Thanks for listening. Bestest, Jerry B. From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 22:08:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 06:08:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 85977 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 06:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 06:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 06:08:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.107] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 06:08:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 06:08:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: a note Message-ID: <95g79k+i1dm@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95g3af+306f@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 596 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.63 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > Wondering if anyone has pages from the Carol Craig strip in JOURNEY > INTO COMICS (filled with Kane and Dillin swipes, but still looked > kind of nice), or the "gods" strip in AMAZING MASTERS whatever from > the mid-Sixties? I know my memory's failing me on the latter, but I > still thought it was an okay effort for back-then. Yep, I picked up a package of JOURNEY INTO COMICS a couple of months ago. Very nice stuff, of course a little uncomprehensible in places, but still neat to read. I picked up 6 or 7 issues on Ebay. Gord From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 22:11:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 06:11:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 36762 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 06:11:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 06:11:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 06:11:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.107] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 06:11:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 06:10:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: a note Message-ID: <95g7dh+b81j@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95g3af+306f@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 540 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.63 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > Wondering if anyone has pages from the Carol Craig strip in JOURNEY > INTO COMICS (filled with Kane and Dillin swipes, but still looked > kind of nice), or the "gods" strip in AMAZING MASTERS whatever from > the mid-Sixties? I know my memory's failing me on the latter, but I > still thought it was an okay effort for back-then. By the way, are you the DARKMARK who's written the great FanFiction? If so I LOVED your sequel to WATCHMAN and really miss your Fawcett team! Gord From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Fri Feb 02 22:40:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 06:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 31776 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 06:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 06:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 06:40:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.4.66] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 06:40:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 06:40:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: I agree Message-ID: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95f1ui+t2uj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1284 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.3.50 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission)" wrote: > It would be nice to know where some of the talent from the early days > are now. It's great Frazetta has a Gallery and still does some work > but what happened to Fantucchio? Lots of nice covers for the RBCC by > him. Did he ever illustrate a comic? A Fanzine list would be nice > but so would a short biography of each creator--if living they should > be asked if they want a offer a 1000 word bio about themselves. I > wonder if Bud Plant would carry it. I will if it is ever created (A > list of all zines; A price List of all zines--forget it no one would > agree); > > Is Fred Patton still keeping K-A (Capa Alpha) alive (sold most of my > copies to Dave Smith who use to own (and still does in some manner) > Rocket Comics). > > Also thanks to Blake Bell for getting this discussion going. > > Actually I'd like a hardbound collection of books of everything Ditko > has ever done. In a manner similar to the Marvel Masterworks series. > > Has someone contacted Forrest J. Ackerman the "king" of fans. I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda, and K-A is still alive. I'm on the wait list, and hope to keep moving up. Peter Hansen From Army_of_Gideon@yahoo.com Fri Feb 02 23:19:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: army_of_gideon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 07:19:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 38401 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 07:19:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 07:19:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9608.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.187) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 07:19:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20010203071958.62243.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.208.28.252] by web9608.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 23:19:58 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:19:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: no fun list To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200102010437.WAA30244@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gordon Stewart i have posted a coouple of times in here and got no answers think im going to quit Gordon stewart __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Feb 03 04:35:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 12:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 60264 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 12:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 12:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 13:36:14 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03417 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:35:08 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.153] (ppp12.netimaging.com [208.136.132.153]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA03332 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:35:07 -0600 Message-Id: <200102031235.GAA03332@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Ditko Mug Shot Date: Sat, 3 Feb 01 06:33:37 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Robert Beerbohm wrote: >> > It's been sitting in the ART OF ERIC STANTON, which you can get from >> >Bud Plant, for years, taken in Ditko's and Eric Stanton studio from the >> >late '50s to the mid '60s. >> >> the specific date is 1958 in that pic >> >> bob > > Thanks, Bob, for the confirmation on that. Is there a giveaway in >the picture I'm missing, or does the Stanton book credit it at such? > And what's the deal with "ADVENTURE INTO MYSTERY" cover? That >CAN'T be the published comic, can it? It looks like the original >art to the cover. Same with the size on the STRANGE TALES OF THE >UNUSUAL cover. > Only problem is Ditko supposedly never did the covers for >either, and only did a story in S.T.O.T.U. > Am I dreaming or what? Not to mention the fact both titles >weren't being published in 1958. > And the picture is most likely taken by Stanton, as right under it >in the book is a picture of Stanton, probably taken by Ditko. I remember poring thru the book while at Bud Plant's a few years back. There is a photo credit in there somewhere I remember reading which said 1958 - and it could have been taken in 1957, a better bet, eh? I almost popped the $50 for the book mainly just for that photo. Send me a JPEG of the photo - it might jog my memory better bob beerbohm From darkmark90@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 05:01:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1175 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.106] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: a note Message-ID: <95gvet+l74l@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95g7dh+b81j@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 641 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com > > By the way, are you the DARKMARK who's written the great FanFiction? > If so I LOVED your sequel to WATCHMAN and really miss your Fawcett > team! > Gord Yup, that's me...and since EVERYBODY seems to be asking me, "When are you gonna do some more Captain Marvel," I'm going to have to get back on it once I finish "Maggie," the Marvels tale. Have faith. In case anybody wonders what the heck we're talking about, the Domain is at http://members.tripod.com/Dark_Mark/darkmark1.htm Also have a Comics Indexing Site at http://www.geocities.com/darkmark90/ Thanks for the plug. Any chance you could zap some Carol Craig scans? From darkmark90@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 05:20:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 13:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16398 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 13:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 13:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 13:20:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.11] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 13:20:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 13:20:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Barry Bauman (Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Compiling Message-ID: <95h0ib+49vp@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102030005.SAA07455@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 178 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com Jim Starlin also gave his WARLOCK villain, the Star Thief, Barry Bauman's name for a civilian i.d. back in the mid-Seventies. Did Jim kow Barry, or does anyone have any idea? From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Feb 03 05:32:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 13:32:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 52728 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 13:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 13:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 13:32:01 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA29814 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:32:01 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.153] (ppp12.netimaging.com [208.136.132.153]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA29729 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:31:59 -0600 Message-Id: <200102031331.HAA29729@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: Barry Bauman (Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Compiling Date: Sat, 3 Feb 01 07:30:29 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Subject: Barry Bauman (Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Compiling >Sent: 2/3/20 5:53 PM >Received: 2/3/01 7:27 AM >From: darkmark90@Yahoo.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >Jim Starlin also gave his WARLOCK villain, the Star Thief, Barry=20 >Bauman's name for a civilian i.d. back in the mid-Seventies. Did Jim=20 >kow Barry, or does anyone have any idea? In the 60s and at least the mid 70s Barry Bauman got around to a number of = shows. For a while there, Jim Starlin, Steve Englehart, Alan Weiss, Tom Orz, other= s? moved out to the Bay Area and formed something the NYC HQ was calling Ma= rvel Bullpen West in their blurb page in the back of all the Marvels. 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From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From odbs@zoomnet.net Sat Feb 03 05:44:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 13:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 70979 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 13:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 13:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hall.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.60) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 13:43:58 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-421-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.29.73.182]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12538 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:43:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c08de7$37c39420$b6491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: <20010203071958.62243.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:42:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C08DBD.4DE0FE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C08DBD.4DE0FE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't go away yet, Gordon. Sometimes people are slow to respond, especiall= y when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during t= he "let me introduce myself" phase. Heck, I was gonna ask you who the gold= en age great is that your apa's getting ready to interview, but since I fig= ured somebody else would I let it slide by. What's more, I'm still waiting= for answers to stuff I posted on other lists over a year ago. I know it s= ounds incredible, but sometimes even Lyle Tucker ignores me. Now that real= ly hurts! :-) Dave=20=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gordon Stewart=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:19 AM Subject: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list i have posted a coouple of times in here and got no answers think im going to quit Gordon stewart __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35=20 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! 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Don't go away yet, Gordon.&n= bsp;=20 Sometimes people are slow to respond, especially when a list generates a hi= gh=20 volume of mail such as this one has during the "let me introduce myself"=20 phase.  Heck, I was gonna ask you who the golden age great is that you= r=20 apa's getting ready to interview, but since I figured somebody else would I= let=20 it slide by.  What's more, I'm still waiting for answers to stuff I po= sted=20 on other lists over a year ago.  I know it sounds incredible, but some= times=20 even Lyle Tucker ignores me.  Now that really hurts! :-)
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C08DBD.4DE0FE20-- From GaryB98294@aol.com Sat Feb 03 06:06:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 14:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 37393 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 14:06:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 14:06:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 14:06:05 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ca.105977bd (5708) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from web28.aolmail.aol.com (web28.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.4]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 09:05:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 09:05:54 EST Subject: Getting on the list To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: From: GaryB98294@aol.com I've managed to send and receive messages, but I'll be damned if I can get on Yahool to join the group. It keeps saying I don't have a valid e-mail address. Weird. Anyhow, CAPA-alpha (K-a) thrives today. The 435th mailing just came out. It remains monthly and has a full membership of 40, with about 30 or so on the Wait List. I've enjoyed it more these days than I have in a long, long time. From ditko37@home.com Sat Feb 03 06:44:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 14:44:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 71601 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 14:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 14:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 15:45:54 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203144424.MQFA844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:44:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7C1937.C754C7AE@home.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 09:44:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: JOURNEY INTO COMICS Pick-Up References: <95g79k+i1dm@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > Yep, I picked up a package of JOURNEY INTO COMICS a couple of months > ago. Very nice stuff, of course a little uncomprehensible in places, > but still neat to read. I picked up 6 or 7 issues on Ebay. > Gord Hi Gord. Did you pick up Issue #5, with the Ditko MR. A. illo.? I'd love to get a high-quality scan, or photocopy of same. Please do let me know. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Feb 03 06:47:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 14:47:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 88751 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 14:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 14:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 14:47:33 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.a0.f9909db (4265) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:47:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:47:29 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a0.f9909db.27ad7401_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com --part1_a0.f9909db.27ad7401_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/01 8:54:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, odbs@zoomnet.net writes: > Don't go away yet, Gordon. Sometimes people are slow to respond, especially > when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during the > "let me introduce myself" phase. and I don't even recall the posts - I've been getting lots of posts days late on various mailing lists. Steven Rowe --part1_a0.f9909db.27ad7401_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/01 8:54:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, odbs@zoomnet.net
writes:


Don't go away yet, Gordon.  Sometimes people are slow to respond, especially
when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during the
"let me introduce myself" phase.  
and I don't even recall the posts - I've been getting lots of posts days late
on various mailing lists.

Steven Rowe --part1_a0.f9909db.27ad7401_boundary-- From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Feb 03 06:53:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 14:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 71836 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 14:53:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 14:53:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 14:53:54 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27833 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:53:52 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.172] (ppp31.netimaging.com [208.136.132.172]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA27748 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:53:51 -0600 Message-Id: <200102031453.IAA27748@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list Date: Sat, 3 Feb 01 08:52:21 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/3/01 8:54:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, odbs@zoomnet.net >writes: > > >> Don't go away yet, Gordon. Sometimes people are slow to respond, especially >> when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during the >> "let me introduce myself" phase. > >and I don't even recall the posts - I've been getting lots of posts days >late >on various mailing lists. > >Steven Rowe This Yahoo csomic convergence is wreaking havoc with getting emails on ALL my now Yahoo groups - it's been especially frustrating for me on the PlatinumAgeComics list I moderate here on egroups, err, I mean, Yahoo. Yahoo is obviously having troubles - and I do not recall it being so messed up as when eGroups. com took over and merged OneList.com into their fold. I note some of my own posts are taking a coupel days to get back to me - yet some of the Yahoo things I post come back in a minute or so - go figure anwway, that is off my chest bob beerbohm From ditko37@home.com Sat Feb 03 06:57:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 14:57:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 96680 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 14:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 14:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 14:57:17 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203145652.MWNR844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:56:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7C1C23.94EEA363@home.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 09:56:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking For Ian Jane's Fanzine References: <3A78B208.DB911006@bicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Does anyone know about a Canadian named Ian Jane, and a fanzine he produced a year or two ago featuring an interview with JEFFREY JONES? The Jones's are looking for a copy of it, as they never received the copy they were supposed to get. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From RJCroxton@aol.com Sat Feb 03 07:15:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 15:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 71621 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 15:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 15:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 15:15:53 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.3a.10586b52 (4227) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:15:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3a.10586b52.27ad7aa3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:15:47 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: a note To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3a.10586b52.27ad7aa3_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com --part1_3a.10586b52.27ad7aa3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/03/2001 7:12:13 AM Central Standard Time, darkmark90@yahoo.com writes: > > By the way, are you the DARKMARK who's written the great > FanFiction? > > If so I LOVED your sequel to WATCHMAN and really miss your Fawcett > > team! > > Gord > > Yup, that's me...and since EVERYBODY seems to be asking me, "When are > you gonna do some more Captain Marvel," I'm going to have to get back > on it once I finish "Maggie," the Marvels tale. Have faith. > > In case anybody wonders what the heck we're talking about, the Domain > is at http://members.tripod.com/Dark_Mark/darkmark1.htm > > Also have a Comics Indexing Site at > http://www.geocities.com/darkmark90/ > > Thanks for the plug. Any chance you could zap some Carol Craig scans? > > > Also DarkMark can be seen on Untold_Tales list along with several other writers. Now to bring this back to fanzines, as soon as Gordon Green decides if he likes the cover for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 we can put it up to show everyone. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 --part1_3a.10586b52.27ad7aa3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/03/2001 7:12:13 AM Central Standard Time,
darkmark90@yahoo.com writes:


> By the way, are you the DARKMARK who's written the great
FanFiction?
> If so I LOVED your sequel to WATCHMAN and really miss your Fawcett
> team!
> Gord

Yup, that's me...and since EVERYBODY seems to be asking me, "When are
you gonna do some more Captain Marvel," I'm going to have to get back
on it once I finish "Maggie," the Marvels tale.  Have faith.

In case anybody wonders what the heck we're talking about, the Domain
is at http://members.tripod.com/Dark_Mark/darkmark1.htm

Also have a Comics Indexing Site at
http://www.geocities.com/darkmark90/

Thanks for the plug.  Any chance you could zap some Carol Craig scans?




Also DarkMark can be seen on Untold_Tales list along with several other
writers. Now to bring this back to fanzines, as soon as Gordon Green decides
if he likes the cover for TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 we can put it up to show
everyone.

Richard Croxton

TALES FROM THE ATTIC  
Copies are $4 each postpaid.
Richard Croxton
4612 Eastwood
Little Rock, AR
72204 --part1_3a.10586b52.27ad7aa3_boundary-- From ditko37@home.com Sat Feb 03 07:20:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 15:20:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26293 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 15:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 15:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 15:20:49 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203152024.NIXY844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:20:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7C21A6.5EF49B4A@home.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 10:20:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Labeling the subject header References: <8c.1ecdda6.27acf699@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell JerryBails@aol.com wrote: > > Would it be possible to shorten the list header on the subject line to > something like [comiczines] or even [cbzines] rather than [comicbookfanzines] Hi Jerry. I wrestled with this decision when I started the list. Originally, I just didn't want anyone to confuse it with a list for music fanzines, or fanzines on comedians (go ask the Comics Journal), but my big worry was whether or not it would show up in the Yahoogroups search engine if I shortened it. If someone can assure me that it doesn't matter at all whether or not I reduced that part of the list's e-mail address, then heck, I'd make it "cbf@yahoogroups.com" and all you'd get in the Subject header is "[cbf]". It's unfortunate that "yahoogroups.com" has to be so long as well. Also, yes yahoo is botching it big time with the takeover, but most of the problem seems to be if you want to access the list's WEB PAGE, so as to look at the FILES section or BOOKMARKS section. To look at it on the web, you have to sign in, just as you did on egroups. But when they took over, you had to convert (and still do, if you haven't) your egroups account (ie your User ID and password) to Yahoo. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR A YAHOO E-MAIL ADDRESS, and I have never seen it ask me for this. Yahoo should have just made this as easy as egroups did, by doing it themselves, but they probably wanted to try and trick a few people into certain things. But who cares as long as we have this list, right? Free is free, and the archives and files section are too important to lose. I have wished many times that the Grand Comics Database mailing list had an archive for its messages, but oh well... SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ogden@csd.com Sat Feb 03 08:40:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 16:40:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 52625 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 16:40:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 16:40:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 16:40:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.230] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 16:40:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:40:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95hc9c+10g5u@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A7B75A4.391AB1C7@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 867 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.192.111 From: ogden@csd.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > Incredible list, Steve - thanks a million! It's gonna take a ream > or two of paper to print it out. One question: is every zine here > either comic or sci-fi/comic related? I ask because I see CAMERA > OBSCURA listed, which was the name of a music zine my brother > put out around the time you have listed. Thanks again for sharing > this - a *ton* of work obviously went into it. > > --lyle tucker Right now the list contains everything imaginable - comics, sf, music, D&D, whatever. It's a hodgpodge of whatever I ran across in my travels. Once I finish converting my notes that I have written all over the hardcopy I printed out years ago, I plan to condense the list down to just comic fanzines for this group. But for now it contains a lot of non-comic fanzines stuff. - Steve From escape@texhoma.net Sat Feb 03 09:42:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 17:42:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 92716 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 17:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 17:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cableone.net) (24.116.0.51) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 17:42:02 -0000 Received: from [24.116.100.108] ([24.116.100.108]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:42:01 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> References: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:41:12 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1246866422==_ma============" Return-Path: escape@texhoma.net From: escape@texhoma.net --============_-1246866422==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > > but what happened to Fantucchio? Lots of nice covers for the RBCC >by > him. Did he ever illustrate a comic? >I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan Strnad did Dalgoda I believe. Lee --============_-1246866422==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree

> but what happened to Fantucchio?  Lots of nice covers for the RBCC
by
> him.  Did he ever illustrate a comic?


I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda


You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan Strnad did Dalgoda I believe.

Lee
--============_-1246866422==_ma============-- From escape@texhoma.net Sat Feb 03 09:55:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 17:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 88878 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 17:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 17:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cableone.net) (24.116.0.51) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 17:55:39 -0000 Received: from [24.116.100.108] ([24.116.100.108]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:55:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> References: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:54:50 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Howdy and what ever happened to.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1246865605==_ma============" Return-Path: escape@texhoma.net From: escape@texhoma.net --============_-1246865605==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hey all Nice to be a part of this fine mailing list. Just wondering, with this WEALTH of knowledge under one roof so to speak, does anyone know what ever happened to.... Jay Zilber Bill Marcinco Alan Light Tim Corrigan Rummaging thru my old fanzines sure brings back lots of great memories. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute info/scans as time goes on. And a tip of the hat to Blake, who continues to amaze :) Lee --============_-1246865605==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Howdy and what ever happened to....
Hey all

Nice to be a part of this fine mailing list.  Just wondering, with this WEALTH of knowledge under one roof so to speak, does anyone know what ever happened to....

Jay Zilber

Bill Marcinco

Alan Light

Tim Corrigan

Rummaging thru my old fanzines sure brings back lots of great memories.  Hopefully I'll be able to contribute info/scans as time goes on.

And a tip of the hat to Blake, who continues to amaze   :)

Lee
--============_-1246865605==_ma============-- From GaryB98294@aol.com Sat Feb 03 09:59:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 17:59:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 97099 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 17:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 17:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 17:58:59 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.5a.10a6e31c (3931) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:58:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:58:55 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened to.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: GaryB98294@aol.com --part1_5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. I'll have to ask around K-a. --part1_5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what
happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. I'll have to ask around K-a. --part1_5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df_boundary-- From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Feb 03 10:05:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 18:05:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 45044 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 18:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 18:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 18:05:05 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.3b.ff22a6c (16485) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:05:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3b.ff22a6c.27ada24c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:05:00 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened to.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/3/01 9:57:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, escape@texhoma.net writes: << Nice to be a part of this fine mailing list. Just wondering, with this WEALTH of knowledge under one roof so to speak, does anyone know what ever happened to.... Jay Zilber Bill Marcinco Alan Light Tim Corrigan >> Alan Light retired after selling The Buyer's Guide to Krause Publications. His hobby now is getting celebrity autographs, and last I heard he worked as an usher at the Oscar ceremony every year. Once in awhile the CBG will print something about Alan. From escape@texhoma.net Sat Feb 03 10:12:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 18:12:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 61683 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 18:12:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 18:12:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cableone.net) (24.116.0.51) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 18:12:46 -0000 Received: from [24.116.100.108] ([24.116.100.108]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:12:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3b.ff22a6c.27ada24c@aol.com> References: <3b.ff22a6c.27ada24c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:11:56 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened to.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1246864578==_ma============" Return-Path: escape@texhoma.net From: escape@texhoma.net --============_-1246864578==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >Alan Light retired after selling The Buyer's Guide to Krause Publications. >His hobby now is getting celebrity autographs, and last I heard he worked as >an usher at the Oscar ceremony every year. Once in awhile the CBG will print >something about Alan. Thanks Jim I read recently where his mother passed away. I recall back in the 80's little blurbs in CBG, usually including a picture, of Alan at awards ceremonies, gala celebrity events, etc, but hadnt seen much mention of him these past few years. I sometimes wonder if he is even aware of what's happened to his publication. --============_-1246864578==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened t

Alan Light retired after selling The Buyer's Guide to Krause Publications.
His hobby now is getting celebrity autographs, and last I heard he worked as
an usher at the Oscar ceremony every year. Once in awhile the CBG will print
something about Alan.

Thanks Jim

I read recently where his mother passed away.  I recall back in the 80's little blurbs in CBG, usually including a picture, of Alan at awards ceremonies, gala celebrity events, etc, but hadnt seen much mention of  him these past few years.  I sometimes wonder if he is even aware of what's happened to his publication.
--============_-1246864578==_ma============-- From tonyisa@ohio.net Sat Feb 03 10:13:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 18:13:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 29554 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 18:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 18:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:14:52 -0000 Received: from default ([207.1.37.244]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id SAA21029; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:07:36 GMT for œ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:07:36 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010203180636.00682a50@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 13:06:36 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Welcome, Mike From: Tony Isabella At 01:52 AM 2/2/01 -0500, you wrote: >I suppose it's about time I introduced myself. My name's Mike Quilligan, and >I joined from the invitation over on the GCD list. I'm 19, and a student at >Indiana University. Obviously, I'm too young to have participated in the >fanzine movement, but have an interest in the growth of fandom, and am >passionate about the artists, writers and politics of comics during the peak >of fandom.<<< Hi, Mike. Even though I contributed to a whole lot of fanzines in my youth, I'll be lurking myself...at least until my schedule opens up a bit. But, whenever possible, I'll be more than happy to answer questions about those zines and what I wrote for them. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From escape@texhoma.net Sat Feb 03 10:20:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 18:20:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 45531 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 18:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 18:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cableone.net) (24.116.0.51) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 18:20:58 -0000 Received: from [24.116.100.108] ([24.116.100.108]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:20:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df@aol.com> References: <5a.10a6e31c.27ada0df@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:20:08 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened to.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1246864086==_ma============" Return-Path: escape@texhoma.net From: escape@texhoma.net --============_-1246864086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. I'll have to ask around K-a. Gary I remember ads for the Sugar and Spike zine, by Weirdo Pubs, I recall. I think Rich Morrrissey was a part of the zany gang that put together Fandom Funnies, along with Jay, Brent Richardson and others. The RBCC parody issue STILL makes me laugh out loud. Rich? Where's Jay these days? Lee --============_-1246864086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened t
 Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what
happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. I'll have to ask around K-a.

Gary

I remember ads for the Sugar and Spike zine, by Weirdo Pubs, I recall.   I think Rich Morrrissey was a part of the zany gang that put together Fandom Funnies, along with Jay, Brent Richardson and others.  The RBCC parody issue STILL makes me laugh out loud.

Rich?  Where's Jay these days?

Lee
--============_-1246864086==_ma============-- From darkmark90@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 10:43:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 18:43:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 96864 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 18:43:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 18:43:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 18:43:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.48] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 18:43:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:43:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: THUNDER Agents interview Message-ID: <95hjgd+tq4b@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 337 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com Back in the mid-Sixties, in a mimeo'd zine IIRC, a couple of fans did an interview with Tower editor Samm Schwartz about the THUNDER Agents. Comic Book Artist is planning a Tower issue and, if this one could be located, it'd provide some more insights into their workings, I'm sure. Anyone have a copy of this interview? Thanks. From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Feb 03 11:07:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 49370 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:07:48 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.2f.107c8bf4 (4217) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:07:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2f.107c8bf4.27adb0f1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:07:29 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Howdy and what ever happened to.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2f.107c8bf4.27adb0f1_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com --part1_2f.107c8bf4.27adb0f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/01 1:32:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > > >> Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what > > happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. > I'll have to ask around K-a. > > > > Last I heard (decade back), he was working in graphics in NYC (for the subway ? sewer?). His old friend, Ken Gale does a weekly radio show over NYC's Pascifica station on comic books. Steven Rowe --part1_2f.107c8bf4.27adb0f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/3/01 1:32:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,



Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what
happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine.
I'll have to ask around K-a.



Gary

Last I heard (decade back), he was working in graphics in NYC (for the subway
? sewer?).

His old friend, Ken Gale does a weekly radio show over NYC's Pascifica
station on comic books.

Steven Rowe
--part1_2f.107c8bf4.27adb0f1_boundary-- From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 11:14:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:14:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 95633 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:14:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:14:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web701.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.21) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 25581 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2001 19:14:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20010203191430.25580.qmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.6.125] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 11:14:30 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:14:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: JOHN WRIGHT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" This is a sequel to CONJURELLA posted at: http://onyx.gothnetwork.com/darkendsoul/Conjurella.html There are some words of praise for my CONJURELLA series in the INSTRUCTIONS box, last page, in TRANSMETROPOLITAN #17, January 1999. Since most people assumed that my CONJURELLA series was part fiction (it wasn't), I finally wrote one that WAS part fiction. This is it. Warren Publishing Company fans will remember me for my stories in CREEPY, EERIE, and VAMPIRELLA, most recently reprinted in VAMPIRELLA OF DRAKULON #1-3 (Harris Comics, 1996). Best wishes, T. Casey Brennan CONJURELLA AVOCA: BLUE WATER LAST MEMORIES or THE TWO JOHN WRIGHTS, AND HOW I SHOT ONE OF THEM by T. Casey Brennan copyright 2000 by T. Casey Brennan This is the story of the Blue Water last memories of David Ferrie. No, this is the story of the two John Wrights. The first John Wright I met through the mails in my early days at Peck High School, circa 1961. He published a fanzine in Port Elizabeth, in what was then the Union of South Africa. His zine was called, I think, THE KOMIX. It contained no racial or political propaganda whatsoever, only articles and comics revolving around what came to be called the Golden Age of Comics: World War II. A creation by the first John Wright, a World War II British superhero called Union Jack, was later to be appropriated by Marvel Comics, by another one of the first John Wright's early pen pals, Roy Thomas. The second John Wright, proprietor of a combination pornography and conspiracy mail order business called Pacific Paradise, I met through a different kind of mail, e-mail, after I had written CONJURELLA, the story of how Dr. E of Port Hope, Michigan, and David Ferrie of Ohio, where both my maternal uncles lived, had kidnapped me on November 22, 1963, and forced me to initiate the firing from the Texas School Book Depository Building. If the first John Wright had helped invent the comic book fanzine, the second John Wright had helped invent dadaist conspiracy journalism. Wright hailed from Port Huron, Michigan, where my late father, William J. Brennan, had once sat on the St. Clair County Board of Education, along with Thaddeus B. Vance, also of Port Huron, who had invited me, briefly, into the local chapter of the John Birch Society. Wright's Pacific Paradise website included, among other things, pornographic pictures retouched to look like Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton, blatant political bigotry, and dadaist conspiracy journalism born out of the Blue Water's hellish Vietnam era, when those who had been ensnared by the draft, returned to brag of hellish atrocities against the Vietnames to those who had not. Yet, of all the varied media outlets in the Blue Water area, only John Wright and Pacific Paradise would report on CONJURELLA, with a special section, wedged between the pornographic photos of pseudo-Clinton and pseudo-Lewinsky, and right-wing meanderings I could accept no more easily in the '90s than in the sixties. But this was the story of the last Blue Water Memories. And this was the mixture of truth, fiction, and comic book promotion you THOUGHT I wrote. I graduated from high school in 1965, at the age of 16. I should not have been that young, but when I started school, in September of 1953, I was five years old. My late mother, Alice Brennan, was the chief officer of the Swamp School Board, which would become one of the last K8, kindergarten through eighth grade, school districts in the state. Anyway, Miss Nolan, the teacher, saw that I could already read, plus, I suppose she thought she could get some points with my parents, so she put me immediately into the first grade at age five. So I graduated at the age of sixteen, from Sanilac County, future home of itinerant drifter, Timothy McVeigh. The Sanilac County official who signed my high school diploma was Henry Hill, a John Birch Society member and organizer. Rodding around with a case. In the country, in the sixties, that was what you did. Unfortunately, for me, there was a deadly footnote to this: I was no longer quite sure of who it was locally that I knew, and who I did not know. Dr. E's injections, combined with post-hypnotic suggestion, had produced a deadly selective amnesia; other witnesses, along with our alleged cousin, Howard Leslie Brennan, would manifest these symptoms at the Warren Commission hearings. "Casey, get in the car! We've got some beer!" Anyone could say it, and I'd get in. Except, if they were friends from over about a month before, I wasn't sure if I knew them or not. Had to fake it, with the names and everything. I actually didn't know. Apparently, David Ferrie had been cruising 136, with a carload of bodyguards, the day I decided to walk to Avoca. Out ancestral home was about four and a half miles from Avoca, at the corner of Bricker and Brennan roads, almost. Now it's a park, named after my late mother, and my adoptive paternal grandfather, James Brennan, who adopted my late father, in 1906. But then it was a home, sort of, and that day, I had decided to walk to Avoca, and see what was going on. David Ferrie must have been close, watching. He must have suspected that I would somehow catch a ride to Avoca, while I was walking, because he was there waiting, attracting attention, long before I got there. They can fail. They can err. There was a market, a mom-and-pop grocery at the eastermost end of town, on the left, as you head toward Beard's Hills. Bill Brown owned it; I guess he thought he was some kind of local do-gooder; you know, keeps track of the people, help them out and all. He was watching David Ferrie; he told me afterwards, he was watching David Ferrie cruise up and down the street. I open the beer and start swigging. I am only a boy now, but I like to have people think of me as a man. There are two men in the front seat; four in the back, including me. It is crowded now, but not unusual for a carload of drunks in Avoca in the 1960s. There is only one problem. I don't really know who any of them are. I am only pretending. I get in at the left rear passenger door. There are three men to my right. In the middle is David Ferrie. I swig the beer and the man to my right issues the hypnotic command: "Don't look at David Ferrie." And again, for that one brief, hellish moment, I remember: Again, the operating command, again the enigma, wrapped in a quilt, and sealed in a crate, is lifted up. Again the memory: I initiated the firing in Dallas. Again the operating command, again the murdered President. But I try to look away. The man to my right is adept. He can lean forward when I do, so I cannot see David Ferrie's face. "You don't remember me, do you?" David Ferrie asks. I smile and say, "A little..." It is a forced smile and a forced answer, but it is somewhat true. "Well," David Ferrie says, "I used to come around and bother you when you were a kid." He pauses. "But that's over now. I'm going to stop." He is not lying either. Within a year, David Ferrie will be found dead of an overdose, as the New Orleans District Attorney's 0ffice investigation of the Kennedy assassination convenes. I don't remember anything else that he says. But when he lets me out of the car, after we've driven north a ways on Beard Road, toward Beard's Hills, I go over to Bill Brown's market to get a candy bar. Bill Brown is frantic. Bill Brown still thinks I'm a kid. Damn. "Do you just get in the car with anybody that comes by?" Bill Brown demands. I pause sheepishly. His friend behind the counter says: "Those guys were cruisin' up 'n' down the street for near on half an hour. They were lookin' for somebody." "Do you know who those guys were?" Bill Brown asks. I shake my head, and Brown says: "Better watch who you get in the car with." His sidekick nods authoritatively. More than three decades later, when I would remember who David Ferrie was, and transcribe those memories in the legend of CONJURELLA, I would be approached, through e-mail, by the second John Wright, John Wright of Port Huron (and, briefly, Lansing) and Pacific Paradise, who would read of CONJURELLA on a newslist. In May of 1999, I e-mail John Wright and tell him that a comic book from Evansville, Indiana, THE STORK #2, is now on sale at The Underworld comic shop on Ann Arbor's famous South University Street. He responds by telling me he is coming to Ann Arbor to see me, and to pick up a copy of The Stork #2, featuring my story, "Conjurella Fever". Wright, unfortunately, has another claim to media fame. He e-mails me the details, and I find a 1981 article from the ANN ARBOR NEWS, abour Wright's adventures in Lansing, a UPI story entitled "Lansing Man arrested for threats to assassinate Vice President Bush". Excerpts from the article, taken from the April 18, 1981 ANN ARBOR NEWS, follows. As interesting as the fact that Wright's "threats" were clearly coerced, is the fact that an officer surnamed Ruby was sent for this supposed assassin. ******************************************************* GRAND RAPIDS (UPI) - ...John Wright, 39, was arrested at his Lansing home by Secret Service agents Thursday after he alleged made the threatening comments to Lansing police officers investigating a harassment complaint. The Secret Service transferred Wright to the Kent County Jail to await arraignment in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan in Grand Rapids. Officers confiscated two loaded weapons - a scope-equipped rifle and a handgun - from Wright's home... ...When they arrived and knocked, he emerged from the house and closed and padlocked the front door, Sgt. Irv Ruby said. Asked why he had locked the door, Wright - who lives alone and apparently is unemployed - stated the CIA was blackmailing him and trying to kill him, Ruby said. ...The man then said he was going to kill the director of the CIA and "everyone who's blackmailing me," adding, WHEN PRESSED, that that included Bush, who served as CIA director under President Nixon. When asked if he meant the vice president, Wright responded "that's right, he is the vice president isn't he, but I'm not going to say that," Ruby said. Ruby said Wright went on to discuss a number of unusual matters, including UFOs, before the Secret Service was contacted and he was arrested. ******************************************************* The following is fiction, for those of you who demanded it, for those of you who said CONJURELLA must be fiction. THIS is fiction, and comic book promotion: Wright arrives at the Ann Arbor Greyhound station in the summer of 1999. My meeting with him is prearranged. He must wait at the bus station well after closing, till I arrive to meet him, after work at The Earle, the restaurant where I now work as a dishwasher. I punch out, pocket the Glock 9MM, and walk. As it rattles dangerously in the pocket of my sport coat, I can hear the MK-ULTRA operating command: DON'T KNOW THAT THE GUN IS THERE. And I do not know. There is, in my heart, only anticipation, only anticipation of a friendship with a fellow Internet conspiracy writer, one who has embraced my work, and written of it at his website, however politically incorrect. Wright leans against the wall of the Greyhound station, in the darkened alcove where the buses arrove. I approach with little cat footsteps, like Sandburg's fog. When he looks up and recognizes me, I smile, and try to extend my hand. But the MK-ULTRA command says: IT ISN'T REAL. DRAW AND FIRE. JUST LIKE IN A DREAM. HE'LL LAUGH. Dangerously, the safety is off on the Glock 9MM, as it rolls about in my sport coat. Wright looks up and smiles for but a moment before my hand, involuntarily, comes up with the 9MM. I have only a nanosecond to see the smile fade, before I open fire: one in the heart, two in the head. The sound is ffft, ffft, ffft, as the silencer does its job. Wright, like myself, has claimed through his Pacific Paradise website, of memories of MK-ULTRA experimentation in his youth. They will be his last memories. The second John Wright slumps upon his concrete deathbed like a rag doll. As he does, I pocket the gun and turn and walk away, and already the gunfire is a memory lost, like that day in Dallas. The MK-ULTRA command says: JOHN WRIGHT DIDN'T SHOW UP AT THE BUS STATION. YOU NEVER SAW HIM. And I walk down Huron St., humming an old song, sad that my e-mail friend never showed up in Ann Arbor to see me, as he promised. THE END Promotional Postscript: Optimists will be happy to learn that after the regrettable shooting incident, either comic character VAMPIRELLA showed up, as scripted by T. Casey Brennan in VAMPIRELLA OF DRAKULON #1-3 (Harris Comics, 1996) and VAMPIRELLA: TRANSCENDING TIME & SPACE (by T. Casey Brennan & Steve Englehart), see... http://www.davestevens.com/ds_harri.htm ...and bit him on the neck just as he was going out. OR roaring twenties Satanist Aleister Crowley showed up, back from the dead...see the T. Casey Brennan story in the Brazilian edition of Crowley's THE EQUINOX, Vol. V, No III, advertised at... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~realoto/eqv3c.html ...and had him sell his soul to the devil. Either way, now the second John Wright is okay. Sort of. Just avoid him...after dark. ===== http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/conspire.html#brennan http://www.alanluck.com/truth_is_out_there.htm http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol20/articles/brennan.html http://www.wynd.org/tcb.html http://onyx.gothnetwork.com/darkendsoul/Conjurella.html http://www.davestevens.com/ds_harri.htm http://www.sentex.net/~dvanhorn/tcasey/tcasey.html http://www.vampifan.com/other/htmls/other.html http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/2544/arq.htm __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 11:21:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:21:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 87370 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:21:55 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf20.rt66.com [206.206.85.40]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19329 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:21:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7C5AA4.231C44C9@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 12:23:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Labeling the subject header References: <8c.1ecdda6.27acf699@aol.com> <3A7C21A6.5EF49B4A@home.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------42494A86143806203CF29F7F" From: Lyle Tucker --------------42494A86143806203CF29F7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake Bell wrote: > If someone can assure me that it doesn't matter at all whether or > not > I reduced that part of the list's e-mail address, then heck, I'd make > it > "cbf@yahoogroups.com" and all you'd get in the Subject header is > "[cbf]". This gets my vote. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------42494A86143806203CF29F7F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake Bell wrote:
   If someone can assure me that it doesn't matter at all whether or not
I reduced that part of the list's e-mail address, then heck, I'd make it
"cbf@yahoogroups.com" and all you'd get in the Subject header is "[cbf]".
        This gets my vote.

--lyle tucker
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  --------------42494A86143806203CF29F7F-- From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 11:24:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 78677 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:24:22 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf20.rt66.com [206.206.85.40]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19676 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:24:20 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7C5B49.32E8E93F@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 12:26:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list References: <20010203071958.62243.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> <000701c08de7$37c39420$b6491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------829D3DBF05AA2E289E065BEC" From: Lyle Tucker --------------829D3DBF05AA2E289E065BEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Rawlins wrote: > Don't go away yet, Gordon. Sometimes people are slow to respond, > especially when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this > one has during the "let me introduce myself" phase. > > Absolutely! Hang in there, Gordon! > > What's more, I'm still waiting for answers to stuff I posted on other > lists over a year ago. > > This is either an admirabledisplay of patience or extreme > stupidity. > > I know it sounds incredible, but sometimes even Lyle Tucker ignores > me. > > Is that a mosquito I hear buzzing? --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------829D3DBF05AA2E289E065BEC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Rawlins wrote:

Don't go away yet, Gordon.  Sometimes people are slow to respond, especially when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during the "let me introduce myself" phase.
 
        Absolutely!  Hang in there, Gordon!

What's more, I'm still waiting for answers to stuff I posted on other lists over a year ago.

        This is either an admirabledisplay of patience or extreme stupidity.

I know it sounds incredible, but sometimes even Lyle Tucker ignores me.

        Is that a mosquito I hear buzzing?

--lyle tucker
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  --------------829D3DBF05AA2E289E065BEC-- From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 11:27:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:27:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 70520 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:27:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:27:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 20:28:54 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf20.rt66.com [206.206.85.40]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20095 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:27:47 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7C5C18.A21CAA20@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 12:29:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree References: <95g94r+nk0m@eGroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------714AD76DC74E962A3E19490C" From: Lyle Tucker --------------714AD76DC74E962A3E19490C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit escape@texhoma.net wrote: >> I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda > > You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan Strnad did Dalgoda > I believe. > > Thanks a big 10-4 on that one - Fujitake doing > a rather decent imtation of Moebius, actually. I always > enjoyed Fujitake's work. Fantucchio put out some interesting > pieces, but his style overall kind of left me cold. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------714AD76DC74E962A3E19490C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit escape@texhoma.net wrote:
I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda
You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan Strnad did Dalgoda I believe.
 
        Thanks a big 10-4 on that one - Fujitake doing
a rather decent imtation of Moebius, actually.  I always
enjoyed Fujitake's work.  Fantucchio put out some interesting
pieces, but his style overall kind of left me cold.
--lyle tucker
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  --------------714AD76DC74E962A3E19490C-- From odbs@zoomnet.net Sat Feb 03 11:55:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 19:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 25498 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 19:55:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 19:55:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 19:55:32 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-458-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.29.73.219]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02737 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:55:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000f01c08e1b$1fd09b40$db491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: <20010203071958.62243.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> <000701c08de7$37c39420$b6491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> <3A7C5B49.32E8E93F@rt66.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:54:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08DF1.3618BEC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08DF1.3618BEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lyle wrote: Is that a mosquito I hear buzzing? See what I mean!? The man is heartless I tell ya!=20=20 Dave=20=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lyle Tucker=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list Dave Rawlins wrote:=20 Don't go away yet, Gordon. Sometimes people are slow to respond, espec= ially when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has duri= ng the "let me introduce myself" phase.=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 Absolutely! Hang in there, Gordon!=20 What's more, I'm still waiting for answers to stuff I posted on other l= ists over a year ago.=20 This is either an admirabledisplay of patience or extreme stupi= dity.=20 I know it sounds incredible, but sometimes even Lyle Tucker ignores me.= =20 --lyle tucker=20 Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE!=20 http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 www.=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08DF1.3618BEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lyle wrote:
Is that a mosquito I hear=20 buzzing?
 
See what I mean!?  The = man is=20 heartless I tell ya! 
 
Dave 
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 Lyle Tucker<= /A>=20
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 = 2:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] n= o fun=20 list

Dave Rawlins wrote:=20
Don't=20 go away yet, Gordon.  Sometimes people are slow to respond, especi= ally=20 when a list generates a high volume of mail such as this one has during= the=20 "let me introduce myself" phase.
 
        Absolutely!  = Hang in=20 there, Gordon!=20

What's more, I'm st= ill=20 waiting for answers to stuff I posted on other lists over a year=20 ago.=20

        This is either an= =20 admirabledisplay of patience or extreme stupidity.=20

I know it sounds in= credible,=20 but sometimes even Lyle Tucker ignores me.=20

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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08DF1.3618BEC0-- From GaryB98294@aol.com Sat Feb 03 12:30:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 20:30:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15626 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 20:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 20:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 20:30:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: GaryB98294@aol.com Received: from [10.1.10.98] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 20:30:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:30:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: THUNDER Agents interview Message-ID: <95hpp7+n41o@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95hjgd+tq4b@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 857 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.205.74 From: GaryB98294@aol.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > Back in the mid-Sixties, in a mimeo'd zine IIRC, a couple of fans did > an interview with Tower editor Samm Schwartz about the THUNDER > Agents. Comic Book Artist is planning a Tower issue and, if this one > could be located, it'd provide some more insights into their > workings, I'm sure. Anyone have a copy of this interview? Thanks. About a year before he died, I had lunch with Samm Schwartz and Bob Bolling in North Miami Beach. I questioned Samm about Thunder Agents, Tower Comics and his role in it. I wrote a couple of pages about the results in my CAPA-alpha zine. I'd have to dig it up, but I'll be happy to copy for you or anyone who wants to see it. He had some interesting things to say about how it got started and the problems they faced. Gary Brown Wellington, FL From mvhaas@elpaso.net Sat Feb 03 12:46:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 20:46:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 49859 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 20:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 20:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server.elpaso.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f13Kklq23736 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:46:47 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <981224461.1848.45537.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <981224461.1848.45537.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:50:35 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Jay Zilber Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas Gary Brown wrote: > Having seen the Sheldon Mayer issue of CBA (#11), I was wondering what >happened to Jay Zilber. He published that zine. I'll have to ask around K-a. Out of curiosity, I did a Sherlock Internet search on "Jay Zilber" and found the following web page: http://www.pipeline.com/~asap/aboutus.html Since it also mentions Brenda Mings, I think it's probably the same Jay Zilber we're looking for. best -- Merlin Haas (who would like posters to sign their full names to their posts, at least until we get a better idea of just who's here...) From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Feb 03 13:32:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 21:32:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 39044 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 21:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 21:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 21:32:15 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.91.6708709 (4188) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:32:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <91.6708709.27add2d4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:32:04 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] JOHN WRIGHT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com from the Richard Thomspon mailing list (a non-comics list) re: the BBC "<> so this is what Paul Gambaccini is still doing... Steven (waving to all the people on this list he knows!) Rowe From jgjensen@uniontel.net Sat Feb 03 13:36:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 21:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 83829 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 21:36:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 21:36:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 22:37:29 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod89.uniontel.net [209.94.180.99]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f13Le3o03309 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:40:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c08e21$8360d480$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: THUNDER Agents interview Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:40:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Here's a question for you, is Capa-alpha still going, I in the 60's always wanted to join. I did a couple of fanzines back in the day, Comic Blasts, Cloak and Daggar, and was part of She-Bang. Kind of cool this sight here. Jon Jensen -----Original Message----- From: GaryB98294@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Re: THUNDER Agents interview >--- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: >> Back in the mid-Sixties, in a mimeo'd zine IIRC, a couple of fans >did >> an interview with Tower editor Samm Schwartz about the THUNDER >> Agents. Comic Book Artist is planning a Tower issue and, if this >one >> could be located, it'd provide some more insights into their >> workings, I'm sure. Anyone have a copy of this interview? Thanks. > > About a year before he died, I had lunch with Samm Schwartz and >Bob Bolling in North Miami Beach. I questioned Samm about Thunder >Agents, Tower Comics and his role in it. I wrote a couple of pages >about the results in my CAPA-alpha zine. I'd have to dig it up, but >I'll be happy to copy for you or anyone who wants to see it. He had >some interesting things to say about how it got started and the >problems they faced. >Gary Brown >Wellington, FL > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 14:04:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 22:04:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 47579 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 22:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 22:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9906.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.249) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 22:04:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20010203220420.46803.qmail@web9906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.63] by web9906.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:04:20 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:04:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: JOURNEY INTO COMICS Pick-Up To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3A7C1937.C754C7AE@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green Blake, No #5 ! I've got #4,6,7,8,9,11,12,13 but not #5 ! I will put scans of these up soon though. I'm still going through my collection . I know there's some other stuff in there! Gord --- Blake Bell wrote: > > flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > > Yep, I picked up a package of JOURNEY INTO COMICS > a couple of months > > ago. Very nice stuff, of course a little > uncomprehensible in places, > > but still neat to read. I picked up 6 or 7 issues > on Ebay. > > Gord > > Hi Gord. Did you pick up Issue #5, with the Ditko > MR. A. illo.? > I'd love to get a high-quality scan, or photocopy of > same. Please > do let me know. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand > new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious > fans at : > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg > / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still > going strong : > > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 14:23:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 22:23:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 55268 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 22:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 22:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 22:23:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.33] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 22:23:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 22:23:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: a note and then some! Message-ID: <95i0cm+dju9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95gvet+l74l@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1151 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.63 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > > > > > By the way, are you the DARKMARK who's written the great > FanFiction? > > > Yup, that's me...and since EVERYBODY seems to be asking me, "When are > you gonna do some more Captain Marvel," I'm going to have to get back > on it once I finish "Maggie," the Marvels tale. Have faith. > > In case anybody wonders what the heck we're talking about, the Domain > is at http://members.tripod.com/Dark_Mark/darkmark1.htm > > Also have a Comics Indexing Site at > http://www.geocities.com/darkmark90/ > > Thanks for the plug. Any chance you could zap some Carol Craig scans? -------------+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------- SCANS ARE COMING ! By the way, I'm the Gordon Green who wrote the ALL WINNERS SQUAD stories with you on the defunct GOLDENAGE FANFICTION site ! Good to have you on the list! Next, I had heard that Alan Light was an editor on SPIN MAGAZINE. Maybe the info was wrong? NEXT, perhaps Jin Van Hise knows this. What was the LAST issue of the RBCC ? The last one I have is #153 and was published by NEW MEDIA PRESS. Thanks Guys, Gord From ditko37@home.com Sat Feb 03 14:39:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 22:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 71381 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 22:39:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 22:39:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 23:40:43 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010203223931.ORKC2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:39:31 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7C887F.838562F3@home.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:38:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Send Me Large Scans References: <95i0cm+dju9@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > > Thanks for the plug. Any chance you could zap some Carol Craig > scans? > -------------+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------- > SCANS ARE COMING ! Hey all. I've Optimzed some of the VERY large scans in the FILES section. If you're going to put up some huge 200 KB or more scan, and don't have some kind of Ulead SmartSaver program, please just e-mail me the scans and info. I mean there was a scan in the files section that was 600,000! We're going to eat up alot of room at that rate. Thanks for all the cool scans, by the way. Soon, I'll start building some folders to make it all nice lookin'. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 14:48:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 22:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 89698 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 22:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 22:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 23:49:50 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf17.rt66.com [206.206.85.37]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14462 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:48:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7C8B31.C371D520@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 15:50:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] no fun list References: <20010203071958.62243.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> <000701c08de7$37c39420$b6491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> <3A7C5B49.32E8E93F@rt66.com> <000f01c08e1b$1fd09b40$db491dd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B6F019ADD7F713B985080436" From: Lyle Tucker --------------B6F019ADD7F713B985080436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Rawlins wrote: > Lyle wrote:Is that a mosquito I hear buzzing? See what I mean!? The > man is heartless I tell ya! Does anyone hear a faucet dripping in the backgroud? --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------B6F019ADD7F713B985080436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Rawlins wrote:
Lyle wrote:Is that a mosquito I hear buzzing? See what I mean!?  The man is heartless I tell ya!


        Does anyone hear a faucet dripping in the backgroud?

--lyle tucker
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  --------------B6F019ADD7F713B985080436-- From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Sat Feb 03 15:14:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 23:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 52338 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 23:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 23:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 23:13:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.30] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2001 23:13:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:13:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Howdy and what ever happened to.... Message-ID: <95i3bj+8f44@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 681 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" For Billy Marcincko, read "Elayne Riggs on Bill Marcinko and AFTA" on http://www.ultrazine2000.com/uz-misc.html And for Tim Corrigan, look here: http://www.ultrazine2000.com/uz- contrib-a.html - Jason > Hey all > > Nice to be a part of this fine mailing list. Just wondering, with > this WEALTH of knowledge under one roof so to speak, does anyone know > what ever happened to.... > > Jay Zilber > > Bill Marcinco > > Alan Light > > Tim Corrigan > > Rummaging thru my old fanzines sure brings back lots of great > memories. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute info/scans as time > goes on. > > And a tip of the hat to Blake, who continues to amaze :) > > Lee From GaryB98294@aol.com Sat Feb 03 15:37:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 3 Feb 2001 23:37:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 87422 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 23:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2001 23:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 00:38:10 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.45.1e27e73 (1758) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:36:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45.1e27e73.27adf018@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:36:56 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: THUNDER Agents interview To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_45.1e27e73.27adf018_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: GaryB98294@aol.com --part1_45.1e27e73.27adf018_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CAPA-alpha is going strong. The February mailing was #436. A full membership (40) and a waiting list of 30. For information, write to: Brian Morris 1514 N. Mattis Ave., Champagne, IL 61821 or e-mail Brian at: bkmorris56@hotmail.com It's a monthly apa. Members must contribute a minimum of 4 pages per quarter. --part1_45.1e27e73.27adf018_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  CAPA-alpha is going strong. The February mailing was #436. A full
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quarter. --part1_45.1e27e73.27adf018_boundary-- From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 16:14:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 00:14:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 73235 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 00:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 00:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9907.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.250) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 00:13:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20010204001359.4634.qmail@web9907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.63] by web9907.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:13:59 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:13:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3A7C5C18.A21CAA20@rt66.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko imitation! Gord --- Lyle Tucker wrote: > escape@texhoma.net wrote: > > >> I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda > > > > You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan > Strnad did Dalgoda > > I believe. > > > > Thanks a big 10-4 on that one - Fujitake > doing > > a rather decent imtation of Moebius, actually. I > always > > enjoyed Fujitake's work. Fantucchio put out some > interesting > > pieces, but his style overall kind of left me > cold. > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Sat Feb 03 16:34:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 00:34:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28306 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 00:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 00:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 00:34:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2001 00:31:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 00:31:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:Fujitake Message-ID: <95i7tq+3djl@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010204001359.4634.qmail@web9907.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1108 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.111 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., gordon green wrote: Your both right. Pure Ditko on RBCC136, and Moebius on Dalgoda. Seem to remember a cover by him on a fandom annual of some kind in the mid 90's but nothing since. Peter > Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko imitation! > Gord > --- Lyle Tucker wrote: > > escape@t... wrote: > > > > >> I believe Fantucchio did Dalgoda > > > > > > You may be thinking of Dennis Fujitake, he and Jan > > Strnad did Dalgoda > > > I believe. > > > > > > Thanks a big 10-4 on that one - Fujitake > > doing > > > a rather decent imtation of Moebius, actually. I > > always > > > enjoyed Fujitake's work. Fantucchio put out some > > interesting > > > pieces, but his style overall kind of left me > > cold. > > > > --lyle tucker > > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > > FREE! > > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From caputon66@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 17:18:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 01:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 87286 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 01:18:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 01:18:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 01:18:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caputon66@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.51] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2001 01:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:18:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: in search of Comics Forum Message-ID: <95iakc+fotr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 204 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.192.183 From: caputon66@yahoo.com I'm looking for issues of Comics Forum, a British fanzine that was out a few years ago. I'm particularly interested in issues 6 & 9. If anyone has them to sell or trade. Please email me. Nick Caputo From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Feb 03 18:10:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 02:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11888 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 02:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 02:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 02:10:11 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.61.b192923 (4239) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:10:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <61.b192923.27ae1400@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:10:08 EST Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: a note and then some! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/3/01 2:55:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << NEXT, perhaps Jin Van Hise knows this. What was the LAST issue of the RBCC ? The last one I have is #153 and was published by NEW MEDIA PRES >> The last issue I published was #151. New media published #152 & 153, but they never really got behind it. I always believed that the publisher wanted his 'zine Comics Feature to be the next RBCC, but it just never happened. Even when he had newsstand distribution for Comics Feature he could only get 250 subscriptions, whereas RBCC had over a thousand. They were just different publications and one would never be the other.--James Van Hise From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 19:13:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 03:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 81199 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 03:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:13:12 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm06.rt66.com [206.206.85.56]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13498 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:13:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7CC92C.AC819D0@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:14:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Scans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Is anyone having trouble opening my scans in the FILE section? For reasons I don't understand, the little icons next to each scan is showing a blank page. I just added 4 more scans (from zines I just got in which I ordered from Mr. Van Hise - thanks, James!), including a bacover by John Fantucchio, and a stunning Brunner cover to the Omnicon '76 program book. Plus, I put up the inside bacover of that book, wondering if anyone can ID the artist. It looks quite a bit like Tim Conrad to me, but I wouldn't swear by it. It's listed as "AnyGuess." The Fantucchio piece is "Hndbk3b". --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From darkmark90@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 19:26:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 03:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 45512 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 03:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mq.egroups.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:26:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.207] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2001 03:26:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 03:26:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: a note and then some! Message-ID: <95ii5a+efka@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <61.b192923.27ae1400@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 907 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > The last issue I published was #151. New media published #152 & 153, but they > never really got behind it. I always believed that the publisher wanted his > 'zine Comics Feature to be the next RBCC, but it just never happened. Even > when he had newsstand distribution for Comics Feature he could only get 250 > subscriptions, whereas RBCC had over a thousand. They were just different > publications and one would never be the other.--James Van Hise Know what you mean...the publisher (not Rich Howell or Carol Kalish, whom I enjoyed working with) seemed the type of gent I really didn't want to have dealings with in my fanzine-writing days. Luckily I didn't, outside of a very few things, and from what I can gather, I was right not to. I won't charge dishonesty, but something about him simply turned me off. So much for that. From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 19:30:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 03:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 11081 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 03:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:30:36 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm06.rt66.com [206.206.85.56]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15285 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:30:34 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7CCD3F.8478F20A@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:32:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree References: <20010204001359.4634.qmail@web9907.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E8B1EA5BC45ECB584FA97364" From: Lyle Tucker --------------E8B1EA5BC45ECB584FA97364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gordon green wrote: > Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko imitation! On DALGODA? Hmmm. Not on the issues I own. Or are you talking about his earlier days, when he did fan- zine work? I always thought I detected a bit of Joe Staton in his approach. Not sure about the Ditko thing - I guess the ol' brain cells are deteriorating faster than feared! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------E8B1EA5BC45ECB584FA97364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gordon green wrote:

Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko imitation!
        On DALGODA?  Hmmm.  Not on the issues I own.
Or are you talking about his earlier days, when he did fan-
zine work?  I always thought I detected a bit of Joe Staton
in his approach.  Not sure about the Ditko thing - I guess
the ol' brain cells are deteriorating faster than feared!

--lyle tucker
Visit my ART SITE:  it's virtually painless and it's FREE!
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  --------------E8B1EA5BC45ECB584FA97364-- From JimInks@aol.com Sat Feb 03 19:49:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JimInks@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 03:49:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 79248 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 03:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r20.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.162) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:49:39 -0000 Received: from JimInks@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.51.6ff004a (4260) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:49:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <51.6ff004a.27ae2b4f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:49:35 EST Subject: Digest version? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JimInks@aol.com This is a cool list but what are the odds of getting a digest version of the list to help me sort out my mailbox? -Jim Amash From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Feb 03 19:52:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 03:52:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 85625 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 03:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 03:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 03:52:39 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.69.10b03737 (4208) for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:52:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <69.10b03737.27ae2c00@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:52:32 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scans To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/3/01 7:20:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: << Plus, I put up the inside bacover of that book, wondering if anyone can ID the artist. It looks quite a bit like Tim Conrad to me, >> It's by Mike Zeck and was originally the back cover of an RBCC.--James Van Hise From alortie@tmlp.com Sat Feb 03 20:29:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 04:29:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 51173 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 04:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 04:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 05:30:09 -0000 Received: from alortie (modem291.tmlp.com [207.86.249.56]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA02889 for ; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: <019e01c08e62$d5e3f700$e9f956cf@tmlp.com> To: References: <981258590.10827.79254.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: The First Fanzine Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:27:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" Only because I was looking through some back issues of Amazing Heroes when the latest 'Zines Digest appeared in my mailbox: From AH #111: Pete Conron of Savannah, GA asks "What was the first comic-book fanzine?" Don Rosa responded: It's generally believed to be the EC fanzines which started in 1953, such as Bhob Stewart's "EC Fan Bulletin". But I was once told of a fellow named Phil Bronson of Hastings, MN, who published three issues of Scienta-Comics, a fanzine devoted to SF comics, back in 1940!" No idea if this has ever been confirmed or not. Incidentally, if anyone has any 'zines devoted to Flash Gordon, Brick Bradford and Stan Pitt material, contact me off line and I'm sure we can arrange a swap of scans or xeroxes. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780 alortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 03 20:38:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 04:38:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 32358 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 04:38:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 04:38:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 05:39:08 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf27.rt66.com [206.206.85.47]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21846 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:38:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A7CDD0F.A5F3BE18@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:39:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The First Fanzine References: <981258590.10827.79254.l10@yahoogroups.com> <019e01c08e62$d5e3f700$e9f956cf@tmlp.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BF05457C8D70F970F6AF1C0C" From: Lyle Tucker --------------BF05457C8D70F970F6AF1C0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arthur Lortie wrote: > Incidentally, if anyone has any 'zines devoted to Flash Gordon, Brick > Bradford and Stan Pitt material, contact me off line and I'm sure we > can > arrange a swap of scans or xeroxes. I don't have any zines dedicated to these, but I do have a few nice plates of Pitt's work in a small folio I have (looks like Flash Gordon, to me). I'd been happy to scan or photocopy them for ya, if ya'd like --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm --------------BF05457C8D70F970F6AF1C0C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arthur Lortie wrote:

Incidentally, if anyone has any 'zines devoted to Flash Gordon, Brick
Bradford and Stan Pitt material, contact me off line and I'm sure we can
arrange a swap of scans or xeroxes.
        I don't have any zines dedicated to these, but I do have a few nice
plates of Pitt's work in a small folio I have (looks like Flash Gordon, to me).
 I'd been happy to scan or photocopy them for ya, if ya'd like

--lyle tucker
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  --------------BF05457C8D70F970F6AF1C0C-- From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 20:49:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 04:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 50578 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 04:49:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 04:49:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9903.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 04:49:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20010204044952.2845.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.103] by web9903.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:49:52 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:49:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: I agree To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3A7CCD3F.8478F20A@rt66.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green --- Lyle Tucker wrote: > gordon green wrote: > I think the thing with Denis is that he could adopt whatever style he thought suited the material. In a way that's a lot like Rich Buckler, who drew in so many styles I'm not sure what he called his own! I've seen a little of Denis's Dalgoda, and you're right about the Moebius flavor. The bulk of it before looked like Ditko layouts ( design ) with joe Staton finishes. I NEVER detected anything that looked like swipes though, it all appeared original! Best, Gord > > Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko > imitation! > > On DALGODA? Hmmm. Not on the issues I own. > Or are you talking about his earlier days, when he > did fan- > zine work? I always thought I detected a bit of Joe > Staton > in his approach. Not sure about the Ditko thing - I > guess > the ol' brain cells are deteriorating faster than > feared! > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 03 21:20:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 05:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12194 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 05:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 05:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9907.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.250) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 06:21:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20010204052053.17066.qmail@web9907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.103] by web9907.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:20:53 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:20:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scans To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3A7CC92C.AC819D0@rt66.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green Yeah, I've had a little trouble. Also, I can't save the scans to file. --- Lyle Tucker wrote: > Is anyone having trouble opening my scans in the > FILE > section? For reasons I don't understand, the little > icons > next to each scan is showing a blank page. I just > added > 4 more scans (from zines I just got in which I > ordered > from Mr. Van Hise - thanks, James!), including a > bacover > by John Fantucchio, and a stunning Brunner cover to > the > Omnicon '76 program book. Plus, I put up the inside > bacover > of that book, wondering if anyone can ID the artist. > It looks > quite a bit like Tim Conrad to me, but I wouldn't > swear by it. *** I attended that Con, I believe it was Tim Conrad. > It's listed as "AnyGuess." The Fantucchio piece is > "Hndbk3b". > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Sat Feb 03 22:29:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 06:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11218 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 06:29:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 06:29:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 06:29:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.10.97] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2001 06:29:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 06:29:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [comicbookfanzines] Lyle: Fujitake as Ditko Message-ID: <95issf+8uf1@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A7CCD3F.8478F20A@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 659 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.3.96 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Lyle Check out his rendition of the Creeper in RBCC 136. Pure Ditko. Peter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > gordon green wrote: > > > Actualy, Denis Fujitake did more of a Ditko imitation! > > On DALGODA? Hmmm. Not on the issues I own. > Or are you talking about his earlier days, when he did fan- > zine work? I always thought I detected a bit of Joe Staton > in his approach. Not sure about the Ditko thing - I guess > the ol' brain cells are deteriorating faster than feared! > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Feb 04 06:12:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 14:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 51781 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 14:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 14:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.10) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 15:13:54 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.6d.f00b8ac (4002) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:12:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6d.f00b8ac.27aebd5b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:12:43 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] RBCC and New Media (was: a note and then some!) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 02/03/2001 10:28:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, darkmark90@yahoo.com writes: << I won't charge dishonesty, but something about him simply turned me off. So much for that. >> and why not? Other people did... Steven Rowe From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Feb 04 06:16:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 14:16:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32726 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 14:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 14:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 15:17:13 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.42.10427633 (4002) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:16:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42.10427633.27aebe22@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:16:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] The First Fanzine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 02/03/2001 11:32:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, alortie@tmlp.com writes: << But I was once told of a fellow named Phil Bronson of Hastings, MN, who published three issues of Scienta-Comics, a fanzine devoted to SF comics, back in 1940!" No idea if this has ever been confirmed or not. >> I have a scan of one of the covers. And as Bob B will say, alot of the SF fanzines of the 1940s and 1950s ran some comic book news as well... Steven Rowe From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sun Feb 04 06:40:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 14:40:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4839 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 14:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 14:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 14:40:39 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15439 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:40:38 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.155] (ppp14.netimaging.com [208.136.132.155]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA15354 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:40:36 -0600 Message-Id: <200102041440.IAA15354@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] The First Fanzine Date: Sun, 4 Feb 01 08:39:07 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 02/03/2001 11:32:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, >alortie@tmlp.com writes: > ><< But I was once > told of a fellow named Phil Bronson of Hastings, MN, who published three > issues of Scienta-Comics, a fanzine devoted to SF comics, back in 1940!" > > No idea if this has ever been confirmed or not. > >> > >I have a scan of one of the covers. And as Bob B will say, alot of the SF >fanzines of the 1940s and 1950s ran some comic book news as well... > >Steven Rowe The first comics fanzine was published by David A Kyle (NY) back in 1936-37 titled Fantasy World at first and then changed title to Phantasy World. It ran three issues - I have all three - gottem from David himself. What appears in Schelly's excellent Golden Age of Comics Fandom book (if you do not have one, why the hell not?) is courtesy of me. If The Texas Trio's Star Studded Comics or Spicer's Fantasy Illustrated are considered a comics fanzine - then Fantasy World surely is also. There was also a LOT of comics coverage in the James Taurasi/Sam Moskowitz SF news zines beginning in the late 1930s. bob beerbohm From tonyisa@ohio.net Sun Feb 04 11:39:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 63998 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 19:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 20:40:18 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-e9.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.105]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id TAA10138; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:32:55 GMT for œ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:32:55 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010204193157.0066653c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:31:57 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Labeling the subject header From: Tony Isabella At 12:52 AM 2/3/01 EST, Jerry Bails wrote: >Would it be possible to shorten the list header on the subject line to >something like [comiczines] or even [cbzines] rather than [comicbookfanzines] in >order that more of the subject line will appear in the space provided by our >mailbox directories? >If this suggestion has any support and is reasonably easy to do, maybe the >list moderator could arrange it.<<< I'll second that motion. Much to my dismay--heh, heh--I find myself enjoying a number of different mailing lists these days. Anything that makes it easier for myself and others to process all the incoming e-mails is a good idea. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From tonyisa@ohio.net Sun Feb 04 11:39:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21804 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 19:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 19:39:15 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-e9.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.105]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id TAA10141; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:32:57 GMT for œ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:32:57 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010204193200.00675f68@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:32:00 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: CBG's #30th Anniversary Issue From: Tony Isabella COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE #1423 [February 23] is the 30th anniversary issue of that publication. Editor Maggie Thompson came up with something pretty funny for the regular columnists. I had a blast writing the "Tony's Tips" column for that issue. The issue ships on Wednesday. If you don't normally get CBG, you'll want to check out this issue at your friendly neighborhood comics shop. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From tonyisa@ohio.net Sun Feb 04 11:39:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 64294 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 19:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 19:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 19:39:19 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-e9.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.105]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id TAA10159; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:33:02 GMT for œ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:33:02 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010204193204.00676d98@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:32:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Media From: Tony Isabella At 10:23 PM 2/3/01 -0000, Gord wrote: >NEXT, perhaps Jin Van Hise knows this. What was the LAST issue of the >RBCC ? The last one I have is #153 and was published by NEW MEDIA >PRESS. After all these years, my skin still crawls when I hear the name "New Media." Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From JerryBails@aol.com Sun Feb 04 12:31:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 20:31:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 93856 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 20:31:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 20:31:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 21:32:07 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.be.f94a743 (4213) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:30:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:30:49 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG's #30th Anniversary Issue To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/4/01 2:43:52 PM, tonyisa@ohio.net writes: >COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE #1423 [February 23] is the 30th anniversary issue >of >that publication. Editor Maggie Thompson came up with something pretty >funny for the regular columnists. I had a blast writing the "Tony's Tips" >column for that issue. The issue ships on Wednesday. > >If you don't normally get CBG, you'll want to check out this issue at your >friendly neighborhood comics shop. > >Tony Isabella > Tony, Why are you so mysterious? People are always recommending a Web site or issue of a fanzine without telling what the subject is? Is there a PR rule that says that people jump at the unknown? I'll see the issue of GCD because I'm a regular subber, but it is not my nature to jump on recommendations that don't give me a clue as to what they are recommending. Bestest, Jerry From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sun Feb 04 12:55:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 20:55:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 94858 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 20:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 20:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.egroups.com) (10.1.10.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 20:55:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2001 20:55:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:55:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95kfjf+3g0d@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95hc9c+10g5u@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1171 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.80 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I finally get a decent scanner and can scan my old "articles" and edit them anew. Imagine not having to retype anything. Exciting! The future really is here now! Happy 2001. http://graphic-illusion.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > > Incredible list, Steve - thanks a million! It's gonna take a ream > > or two of paper to print it out. One question: is every zine here > > either comic or sci-fi/comic related? I ask because I see CAMERA > > OBSCURA listed, which was the name of a music zine my brother > > put out around the time you have listed. Thanks again for sharing > > this - a *ton* of work obviously went into it. > > > > --lyle tucker > > > Right now the list contains everything imaginable - comics, sf, music, > D&D, whatever. It's a hodgpodge of whatever I ran across in my > travels. Once I finish converting my notes that I have written all > over the hardcopy I printed out years ago, I plan to condense the list > down to just comic fanzines for this group. But for now it contains a > lot of non-comic fanzines stuff. > > - Steve From JerryBails@aol.com Sun Feb 04 13:26:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 21:26:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 70713 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 21:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 21:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r14.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.68) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 21:26:39 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.44.b142927 (4198) for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:26:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <44.b142927.27af230a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:26:34 EST Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fanzine List To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/4/01 3:56:28 PM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: >I finally get a decent scanner and can scan my old "articles" and >edit them anew. Imagine not having to retype anything. Exciting! >The future really is here now! Happy 2001. > Rob, I presume that if you are editing old articles you've scanned that you are taking advantage of optical character reader software. This can greater reduce the size (memory demand) of scanned images of text and fascilitate transciption. Some software can even preserve the format. I understand the limitation (in megabytes) of Web sites reserved to this list. If we reduce text pieces with an OCR and run images separately, we would be able to store for public viewing many more of the early fanzines or at least the best articles. We should seek out the permissions where possible, but I think most fan-writers, fan-artists and fan-editors would be delighted to see their old stuff published again on the Web. Now, some of the earliest zines that used ditto are just too hard to read with an OCR, but all those that used good, clean memeo or photo-offset transcribe nicely. Is anyone using an OCR to transcribe old fanzine articles? Bestest, Jerry From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sun Feb 04 15:12:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 4 Feb 2001 23:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 53681 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 23:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Feb 2001 23:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 23:12:02 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32262 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:12:01 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.53] (fre-43.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.53]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA32045 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:12:00 -0600 Message-Id: <200102042312.RAA32045@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fanzine List Date: Sun, 4 Feb 01 17:10:30 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >--- In comicbookfanzines@y..., ogden@c... wrote: >> --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: >> > Incredible list, Steve - thanks a million! It's gonna take a ream >> > or two of paper to print it out. One question: is every zine=20 >here >> > either comic or sci-fi/comic related? I ask because I see CAMERA >> > OBSCURA listed, which was the name of a music zine my brother >> > put out around the time you have listed. Thanks again for sharing >> > this - a *ton* of work obviously went into it. >> >=20 >> > --lyle tucker >>=20 >>=20 >> Right now the list contains everything imaginable - comics, sf,=20 >music,=20 >> D&D, whatever. It's a hodgpodge of whatever I ran across in my=20 >> travels. Once I finish converting my notes that I have written all=20 >> over the hardcopy I printed out years ago, I plan to condense the=20 >list=20 >> down to just comic fanzines for this group. But for now it=20 >contains a=20 >> lot of non-comic fanzines stuff. >>=20 >> - Steve I seem to havemissed the fanzine list - can it git reposted and/or sent to = me please? robert Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From gpfoley@earthlink.net Sun Feb 04 17:56:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 01:56:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 99111 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 01:56:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 01:56:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 01:56:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.51] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 01:56:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:56:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Lyles Scans Message-ID: <95l18r+ghi9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A7CC92C.AC819D0@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 867 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.39.20.240 From: "Jerry " Lyle i am able to open your files just fine in the file section. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > Is anyone having trouble opening my scans in the FILE > section? For reasons I don't understand, the little icons > next to each scan is showing a blank page. I just added > 4 more scans (from zines I just got in which I ordered > from Mr. Van Hise - thanks, James!), including a bacover > by John Fantucchio, and a stunning Brunner cover to the > Omnicon '76 program book. Plus, I put up the inside bacover > of that book, wondering if anyone can ID the artist. It looks > quite a bit like Tim Conrad to me, but I wouldn't swear by it. > It's listed as "AnyGuess." The Fantucchio piece is "Hndbk3b". > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun Feb 04 20:12:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 04:12:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 82921 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 04:12:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 04:12:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 04:12:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 04:12:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 04:12:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95l97k+h4dg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102042312.RAA32045@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1734 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.103 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Bob,It's in the files section of this site! I can't open it, it requires software I don't seem to have, but maybe=20 you'll get lucky. It's about half way down the list, can't miss it it's 1331 Mb or so ! Gord ; >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Right now the list contains everything imaginable - comics, sf,=20 > >music,=20 > >> D&D, whatever. It's a hodgpodge of whatever I ran across in my=20 > >> travels. Once I finish converting my notes that I have written=20 all=20 > >> over the hardcopy I printed out years ago, I plan to condense the=20 > >list=20 > >> down to just comic fanzines for this group. But for now it=20 > >contains a=20 > >> lot of non-comic fanzines stuff. > >>=20 > >> - Steve >=20 >=20 > I seem to havemissed the fanzine list - can it git reposted and/or=20 sent to me please? >=20 > robert >=20 > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > beerbohm@t... (402)727-4071 > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > ******************************************** > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > ******************************************** > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books &=20 strips=20 > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer > ************************************************************ > There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The=20 few=20 > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 > electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Sun Feb 04 22:37:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 06:37:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 31124 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 06:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 06:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 06:37:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 06:37:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:37:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine List Message-ID: <95lhmt+h72b@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95l97k+h4dg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2026 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" You need Microsoft Excel or Excel viewer to download it. Excel Viewer=20 is a free download, which you can download at:=20 http://office.microsoft.com/2000/downloaddetails/xlviewer.htm - Jason > Bob,It's in the files section of this site! > I can't open it, it requires software I don't seem to have, but=20 maybe=20 > you'll get lucky. > It's about half way down the list, can't miss it it's 1331 Mb or=20 so ! > Gord > ; >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> Right now the list contains everything imaginable - comics,=20 sf,=20 > > >music,=20 > > >> D&D, whatever. It's a hodgpodge of whatever I ran across in=20 my=20 > > >> travels. Once I finish converting my notes that I have=20 written=20 > all=20 > > >> over the hardcopy I printed out years ago, I plan to condense=20 the=20 > > >list=20 > > >> down to just comic fanzines for this group. But for now it=20 > > >contains a=20 > > >> lot of non-comic fanzines stuff. > > >>=20 > > >> - Steve > >=20 > >=20 > > I seem to havemissed the fanzine list - can it git reposted=20 and/or=20 > sent to me please? > >=20 > > robert > >=20 > > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > > beerbohm@t... (402)727-4071 > > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > > ******************************************** > > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > > ******************************************** > > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 > > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books &=20 > strips=20 > > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer > > ************************************************************ > > There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The=20 > few=20 > > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 > > electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Feb 05 06:20:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 14:20:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 51850 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 14:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 14:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 15:21:42 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09137 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:20:36 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.191] (ppp50.netimaging.com [208.136.132.191]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09052 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:20:35 -0600 Message-Id: <200102051420.IAA09052@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fanzine List Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 08:19:06 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >You need Microsoft Excel or Excel viewer to download it. Excel Viewer >is a free download, which you can download at: >http://office.microsoft.com/2000/downloaddetails/xlviewer.htm > >- Jason thanks- I have a mac - an dit comes with something called MacLinkPlus universal translator - which did it fine from the titles listed thru Locus - but no more after that. maybe the list could be broken into two parts? bob beerbohm From caputon66@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 07:55:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 15:55:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23094 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 15:55:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 15:55:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 15:55:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caputon66@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.52] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 15:55:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:55:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons Message-ID: <95midb+c50g@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1357 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 12.27.104.2 From: caputon66@yahoo.com Started reading the first half of Alter Ego the other day and enjoyed the coverage of the JSA/JLA team ups, as well as the interview with Julie Schwartz and the many writers. I finally know what Mike Sekowsky looks like (he looks like the characters he draws, as most artists do). What I really enjoyed was the articles about the 1st New York Comic Con. The personal reminisce was very interesting and gave the flavor of the time and the chaos that occured in putting it together. It was a pioneer effort that started the ball rolling, and the fact that Ditko made an appearance there adds to the mystique. It kind of surprises me that he was so down on the industry even at that early stage. Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to tell? How about your first convention memories? I think my first was around 1970-71, at (I believe)the Statler-Hilton Hotel. It was one of Phil Seuling's cons, and all I can remember was being overwhelmed by all the comics around me. I was 10 years old, went with my brother, who was seven years older than me and was collecting for years, and I do know that he came home with a shopping bag full of comics (we had to sneak the comics into the house, else face the wrath of our parents, who didn't particularly care for us buying them - sound familiar?). Nick Caputo From ditko37@home.com Mon Feb 05 08:12:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 16:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 88539 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 16:12:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 16:12:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 16:12:29 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010205161223.MVXH2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:12:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7ED0BF.47E249BB@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:11:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons References: <95midb+c50g@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell caputon66@yahoo.com wrote: > Started reading the first half of Alter Ego the other day and enjoyed > the coverage of the JSA/JLA team ups, as well as the interview with > Julie Schwartz and the many writers. I finally know what Mike > Sekowsky looks like (he looks like the characters he draws, as most > artists do). What I really enjoyed was the articles about the 1st New > York Comic Con. The personal reminisce was very interesting and gave > the flavor of the time and the chaos that occured in putting it > together. It was a pioneer effort that started the ball rolling, and > the fact that Ditko made an appearance there adds to the mystique. Drat! I skip going to my comic store for one week, and ALTER EGO comes out! And I wanted to read that article, too. Will Schelly was on this list, then left this list. Don't know why. You'd think it would be a natural. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From GSArkell@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 08:38:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 16:38:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 64123 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 16:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 16:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9606.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.185) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 16:38:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20010205163808.46800.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.171.232.1] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:38:08 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:38:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <95midb+c50g@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gary Arkell Phil I was probably at one of those Statler-Hilton cons, I went to a couple. I would tell my father I was going with a friend, but I really did not have any friends who collected comics. He just did not like me going to NY alone. I would carry an empty cardboard box and two little notebooks; one have list and one want list. Riding home on the bus back to NJ I would look thru my comics. I was recently going thru my closet in my mother's house. I found a drawing from Keith Griffen of Tigra (Omega Men) But I could not find my autograph book, unfortunately, I might have thrown it out. I remember getting a kiss from Noel Neill at one of the other cons. Unfortunately I could not find the program that had her autograph either. I wonder if she is still alive. --- caputon66@yahoo.com wrote: > Started reading the first half of Alter Ego the other day and enjoyed > > the coverage of the JSA/JLA team ups, as well as the interview with > Julie Schwartz and the many writers. I finally know what Mike > Sekowsky looks like (he looks like the characters he draws, as most > artists do). What I really enjoyed was the articles about the 1st New > > York Comic Con. The personal reminisce was very interesting and gave > the flavor of the time and the chaos that occured in putting it > together. It was a pioneer effort that started the ball rolling, and > the fact that Ditko made an appearance there adds to the mystique. It > > kind of surprises me that he was so down on the industry even at that > > early stage. > Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to > tell? How about your first convention memories? I think my first was > around 1970-71, at (I believe)the Statler-Hilton Hotel. It was one of > > Phil Seuling's cons, and all I can remember was being overwhelmed by > all the comics around me. I was 10 years old, went with my brother, > who was seven years older than me and was collecting for years, and I > > do know that he came home with a shopping bag full of comics (we had > to sneak the comics into the house, else face the wrath of our > parents, who didn't particularly care for us buying them - sound > familiar?). > > Nick Caputo > > ===== REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY DON'T DREAM IT BE HERE Gary __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 05 09:01:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 17:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 61330 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 17:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 17:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 17:01:19 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.3a.106d9017 (16486) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:01:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3a.106d9017.27b0365b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:01:15 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/5/01 8:40:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, GSArkell@yahoo.com writes: << Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to > tell? How about your first convention memories? >> My first convention was Multicon 70 in Oklahoma City in 1970. The following year I went to a con in Houson and in '72 went to cons in both Houston and Dallas. In 1973 I went to my only Seulingcon, where I saw Vaughn Bode do his "Cartoon Concert". Pretty funny stuff. (Too bad Bode accidentally hung himself two years later due to his being into auto-erotic asphyxiation). --James Van Hise From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Mon Feb 05 10:56:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 18:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 79905 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 18:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 18:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 18:56:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.132] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 18:56:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:56:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Fanzine List Message-ID: <95mt0g+54ce@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 127 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" To whom should we send additions to the fanzine list? There are a lot of omissions of zines that my crowd published. - Jason From ogden@csd.com Mon Feb 05 14:22:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 22:22:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 52293 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 22:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 22:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 22:22:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2001 22:22:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 22:22:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: The Fanzine List Message-ID: <95n93l+l9ru@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95mt0g+54ce@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1244 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.62 From: "Steve Ogden" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jason Sacks" wrote: > To whom should we send additions to the fanzine list? There are a lot > of omissions of zines that my crowd published. > > - Jason I compiled the list, so for now if you - or anyone - has additions, corrections, items that should be taken off the list, etc you can e-mail them directly to me (ogden@csd.com) or post them here (if that's OK with Blake!). I will update the list as time permits. Sorry about the omissions. My collection is mostly pre-1975, so I'm sure there are many omissions for the last 20 years or so! Please understand that I consider this list a starting point to build an accurate representation of comics related fanzines from the 1930's to today. I think it is a good start, but there is still a lot of work to do, and I'll need all the help I can get! In fact, I just updated it! I pruned it way down (deleting a lot of non-comic fanzines) and broke it into two files (FANZINE LIST A-G and FANZINE LIST H-Z). I also added some items and made some corrections. It is located in the FILES Section. It is an EXCEL File. I will NOT be updating it again anytime soon, unless input from the group warrants it. - Steve Ogden From ditko37@home.com Mon Feb 05 14:29:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 22:29:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 793 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 22:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 22:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 23:30:38 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010205222928.ZXVR2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:29:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3A7F291C.98691AD1@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:28:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SQUA TRONT #6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Hey all. I just finished reading an interview with DAVE SIM by Darrell Epp (sp?) from January '01. Besides mentioning how he interviewed T. Casey Brennan (presumably around 1973?) back in the 1970s, where T.C. goes on at length about the "Master Race" story, Sim speaks about how SQUA TRONT #6 came out a couple of years later (the Krigstein issue) and how it is still one of most important possessions. Anyone care to comment on SQUA TRONT #6, and its import? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From GaryB98294@aol.com Mon Feb 05 15:34:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 23:34:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 96514 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 23:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 23:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.4) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:35:12 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.4c.1060764b (15699) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web36.aolmail.aol.com (web36.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.12]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:33:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:33:28 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] SQUA TRONT #6 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <4c.1060764b.27b09263@aol.com> From: GaryB98294@aol.com I learned about "The Master Race" story from an article in Graphic Story Magazine. (Richard Kyle??). With some pages/panels from the story. Of course, I now have a complete EC collection, thanks to the Gemstone reprint series. In mint, too!! From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 05 15:47:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 23:47:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28944 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 23:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 23:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 23:47:31 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.bc.ff66a16 (16492) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:47:24 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com I sent this message this morning but it never showed up. In a message dated 2/5/01 8:40:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, GSArkell@yahoo.com writes: << Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to > tell? How about your first convention memories? >> My first convention was Multicon 70 in Oklahoma City in 1970. The following year I went to a con in Houson and in '72 went to cons in both Houston and Dallas. In 1973 I went to my only Seulingcon, where I saw Vaughn Bode do his "Cartoon Concert". Pretty funny stuff. (Too bad Bode accidentally hung himself two years later due to his being into auto-erotic asphyxiation). --James Van Hise From jim.bertges@newline.com Mon Feb 05 15:52:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 5 Feb 2001 23:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 33177 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 23:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2001 23:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 23:52:43 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:52:34 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB416@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:57:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort of a meditation contraption and suffocated. This sounds more realistic, but it does not diminish my appreciation of him or his art. -----Original Message----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com [mailto:Jimvanhise@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:47 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons I sent this message this morning but it never showed up. In a message dated 2/5/01 8:40:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, GSArkell@yahoo.com writes: << Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to > tell? How about your first convention memories? >> My first convention was Multicon 70 in Oklahoma City in 1970. The following year I went to a con in Houson and in '72 went to cons in both Houston and Dallas. In 1973 I went to my only Seulingcon, where I saw Vaughn Bode do his "Cartoon Concert". Pretty funny stuff. (Too bad Bode accidentally hung himself two years later due to his being into auto-erotic asphyxiation). --James Van Hise To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Mon Feb 05 16:04:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 87813 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:04:07 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (user-2ini81f.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.32.47]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09753 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:03:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002801c08fd0$7708aa40$02000003@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "RG" To: Subject: bode' Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:04:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C08F8D.6261A120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "RG" ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C08F8D.6261A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Those are the two stories about how he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work lives-= -gang members are especially fond of it too as can be seen by their art tha= t use to grace every wash in the San Fernando Valley). Bob Selvig=20 allegedly owned his water bed where the sad event occured. Which I was giv= en or bought--owned/used for a few years before abandoning. Wow that must be why I had those weird dreams=20 back then. I helped Jeff Jones & Vaughn Bode' set up a secondary art show room for the= World SF Con in St. Louis in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and first = time on an airplane). Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch! Je= ff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graphic Illusion= s (1971). (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts fame). Rob Gustaveson (the extraordinary name dropper) =20 My site http://graphic-illusion.com ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C08F8D.6261A120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 
Those are the two stories = about how=20 he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work lives--gang members are especially fond of= it=20 too as can be seen by their art that use to grace every wash in the San Fer= nando=20 Valley).  Bob Selvig
allegedly owned his water = bed where=20 the sad event occured.  Which I was given or bought--owned/used for a = few=20 years before abandoning.
Wow that must be why I had= those=20 weird dreams
back then.
 
I helped Jeff Jones & = Vaughn=20 Bode' set up a secondary art show room for the World SF Con in St. Lou= is in=20 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and first time on an airplane). &nb= sp;=20 Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch!  Jeff Jones sold me a= =20 sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graphic Illusions (1971). = ;=20 (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts fame).
 
Rob Gustaveson
(the extraordinary name=20 dropper)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
My site
http://graphic-illusion.com=
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C08F8D.6261A120-- From jim.bertges@newline.com Mon Feb 05 16:13:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:13:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12856 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:13:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:13:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:13:42 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:13:33 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB417@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] bode' Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:18:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08FD1.A47B9BF8" From: "BERTGES, JIM" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08FD1.A47B9BF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rob, most of us would love to be able to drop names like that. We appreciate your sharing your experiences with us. Does anyone know which of the two stories is actually true? -----Original Message----- From: RG [mailto:graphic_illusion@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:05 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] bode' Those are the two stories about how he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work lives--gang members are especially fond of it too as can be seen by their art that use to grace every wash in the San Fernando Valley). Bob Selvig allegedly owned his water bed where the sad event occured. Which I was given or bought--owned/used for a few years before abandoning. Wow that must be why I had those weird dreams back then. I helped Jeff Jones & Vaughn Bode' set up a secondary art show room for the World SF Con in St. Louis in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and first time on an airplane). Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch! Jeff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graphic Illusions (1971). (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts fame). Rob Gustaveson (the extraordinary name dropper) My site http://graphic-illusion.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor www. .com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08FD1.A47B9BF8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rob,=20 most of us would love to be able to drop names like that. We appreciate you= r=20 sharing your experiences with us. Does anyone know which of the two stories= is=20 actually true?
-----Original Message-----
From: RG=20 [mailto:graphic_illusion@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, February= 05,=20 2001 4:05 PM
To:=20 comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cbzines]=20 bode'

 
Those are the two storie= s about how=20 he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work lives--gang members are especially fond = of it=20 too as can be seen by their art that use to grace every wash in the San=20 Fernando Valley).  Bob Selvig
allegedly owned his wate= r bed where=20 the sad event occured.  Which I was given or bought--owned/used for = a few=20 years before abandoning.
Wow that must be why I h= ad those=20 weird dreams
back then.
 
I helped Jeff Jones &= ; Vaughn=20 Bode' set up a secondary art show room for the World SF Con in St. L= ouis=20 in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and first time on an=20 airplane).   Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch!&nb= sp;=20 Jeff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graphic= =20 Illusions (1971).  (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts=20 fame).
 
Rob Gustaveson
(the extraordinary name= =20 dropper)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
My site
http://graphic-illusion.com


To=20 unsubscribe from this group, send an email=20 to:
comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com


------_=_NextPart_001_01C08FD1.A47B9BF8-- From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 16:17:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:17:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 23937 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:17:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:17:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:17:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.96] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2001 00:17:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 00:16:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New Alter Ego/Comic cons Message-ID: <95nfph+7nn2@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1629 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.138 From: flash14221@yahoo.com The first major Con I attended was Detroit Triple FanFare in "73 I believe. I was there as a dealer and had my tables right accross from none other than Jerry Bails! ( Like I'm sure he remembers! Had some interesting conversations with him in the few slow hours of the evening when everyone else was busy elsewhere! ) Met a ton of great people there too! Bob Layton was there with his CPL gang, etc. The next year I was in partnership with Phil Seuling to put on the first Con here in Buffalo, NY. Spent a great evening in the hotel bar with guests of honor Gil Kane, Russ Heath, Craig Russell, Paul Gulacy, Jim Starlin and others! Problem with running a convention is that your so busy taking care of everyones problems that it's hard to make time for yourself! Still, it was an experience I cherish to this day! As I do the great people whose paths I crossed! Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > I sent this message this morning but it never showed up. > > In a message dated 2/5/01 8:40:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, > GSArkell@y... writes: > > << Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to > > tell? How about your first convention memories? >> > > My first convention was Multicon 70 in Oklahoma City in 1970. The following > year I went to a con in Houson and in '72 went to cons in both Houston and > Dallas. In 1973 I went to my only Seulingcon, where I saw Vaughn Bode do his > "Cartoon Concert". Pretty funny stuff. (Too bad Bode accidentally hung > himself two years later due to his being into auto-erotic asphyxiation). > --James Van Hise From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Mon Feb 05 16:37:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:37:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 67574 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:37:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:37:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:37:19 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (user-2ini81f.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.32.47]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20365 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:37:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003601c08fd5$1d85fc20$02000003@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "RG" To: References: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB417@NLCLAEXMB01> Subject: Re: [cbzines] bode' Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:38:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C08F92.0DFAA0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "RG" ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C08F92.0DFAA0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since I wasn't there and I regard all second hand knowledge as "belief" the= refore I can only say I don't know. Maybe someone knows Selvig's phone num= ber.=20 If he was meditating he will have left at a higher vibratory (frequency) p= lane. If it was merely for ultimate pleasure then (if you believe in rein= carnation--which I do) he'll be coming back to Earth after 50 years (our ti= me). ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BERTGES, JIM=20 To: 'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'=20 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [cbzines] bode' Rob, most of us would love to be able to drop names like that. We appreci= ate your sharing your experiences with us. Does anyone know which of the tw= o stories is actually true? -----Original Message----- From: RG [mailto:graphic_illusion@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:05 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] bode' Those are the two stories about how he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work li= ves--gang members are especially fond of it too as can be seen by their art= that use to grace every wash in the San Fernando Valley). Bob Selvig=20 allegedly owned his water bed where the sad event occured. Which I was= given or bought--owned/used for a few years before abandoning. Wow that must be why I had those weird dreams=20 back then. I helped Jeff Jones & Vaughn Bode' set up a secondary art show room for= the World SF Con in St. Louis in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and fi= rst time on an airplane). Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch!= Jeff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graphic Illu= sions (1971). (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts fame). Rob Gustaveson (the extraordinary name dropper) My site http://graphic-illusion.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 www. .com=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C08F92.0DFAA0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since I wasn't there and I= regard all=20 second hand knowledge as "belief" therefore I can only say I don't know.&nb= sp;=20 Maybe someone knows Selvig's phone number. 
 
 If he was meditating= he will=20 have left at a higher vibratory (frequency) plane.  If it was merely=20 for  ultimate pleasure then (if you believe in reincarnation--which I = do)=20 he'll be coming back to Earth after 50 years (our time).
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 BERTGES, JIM
To: 'comicbookfanzines@ya= hoogroups.com'=20
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:= 18=20 PM
Subject: RE: [cbzines] bode'

Rob,=20 most of us would love to be able to drop names like that. We appreciate y= our=20 sharing your experiences with us. Does anyone know which of the two stori= es is=20 actually true?
-----Original Message-----
From: RG=20 [mailto:graphic_illusion@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, Februa= ry=20 05, 2001 4:05 PM
To: comicbookfanzines@yah= oogroups.com
Subject:=20 [cbzines] bode'

 
Those are the two stor= ies about=20 how he (Vaughn Bode') died (his work lives--gang members are especially= fond=20 of it too as can be seen by their art that use to grace every wash in t= he=20 San Fernando Valley).  Bob Selvig
allegedly owned his wa= ter bed=20 where the sad event occured.  Which I was given or bought--owned/u= sed=20 for a few years before abandoning.
Wow that must be why I= had those=20 weird dreams
back then.
 
I helped Jeff Jones &a= mp; Vaughn=20 Bode' set up a secondary art show room for the World SF Con in St.= =20 Louis in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and first time on an=20 airplane).   Bode' was kind enough to give me a free sketch!&= nbsp;=20 Jeff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine Graph= ic=20 Illusions (1971).  (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts=20 fame).
 
Rob Gustaveson<= /DIV>
(the extraordinary nam= e=20 dropper)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
My site
http://graphic-illusion.com


To=20 unsubscribe from this group, send an email=20 to:
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C08F92.0DFAA0A0-- From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Feb 05 16:41:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:41:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 35100 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 00:41:21 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.31.101579dc (18407) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:41:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <31.101579dc.27b0a220@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:41:04 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] bode. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31.101579dc.27b0a220_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com --part1_31.101579dc.27b0a220_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 7:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.bertges@newline.com writes: > Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been > believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate > demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort > the way I heard it back then, was that he accidentaly hung himself - as part of a auto-erotic device. the device was susposed to untighten, it did not. Steven Rowe --part1_31.101579dc.27b0a220_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 7:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jim.bertges@newline.com writes:


Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been
believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate
demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort
of a meditation contraption and suffocated


the way I heard it back then, was that he accidentaly hung himself - as part
of a auto-erotic device.  the device was susposed to untighten, it did not.

Steven Rowe --part1_31.101579dc.27b0a220_boundary-- From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Feb 05 16:44:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 00:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 70454 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 00:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 00:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 01:45:22 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02126 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:44:17 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.193] (ppp52.netimaging.com [208.136.132.193]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02039 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:44:15 -0600 Message-Id: <200102060044.SAA02039@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] bode' Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 18:42:46 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >I helped Jeff Jones & Vaughn Bode' set up a secondary art show room for >the World SF Con in St. Louis in 1968 or 1969 one of my first cons (and >first time on an airplane). Bode' was kind enough to give me a free >sketch! Jeff Jones sold me a sketch for $20. which I used in my zine >Graphic Illusions (1971). (Co-published with Rob Gluckson of Guts fame). > >Rob Gustaveson >(the extraordinary name dropper) I am be taking this out of order on sme level, emails come in out of sync. I was at that 1969 World Science Fiction Convention in St Louis and marveled at the Vampi 3, 4 & Creepy 31 covers co-painted by Vaughn & Larry -amongst the oher art they did singly. Vaughn still had short military style hair compared to later and was in his arny fatigue green jacket. It was a long narrow type room . worked well I remember. When we put on the first UG comicon called Berkeleycon 1973 in the Pauly ballrom ASUC building on the 2nd floor, Vaughn performed his Cartoon Concert to a packed audience. He brought Mark into the Berkeley store on Telegraph Ave on a semi regular basis. He sold to a wide UC-berkeley audience. Both comix and posters went well. When Vaughn passed away suddenly, his brother Vicent tried to carry forth the family tradition including the concerts. The biker thing for tatoos comes later it seems. I remember a more intellectual audience who also appreciated Jeff Jones and others. It was Vaughn who intitiated Gothic Blimp Works as first editor back in 1969. I remember the day he died quite well. It zipped around the comics community of the Bay Area like lightning. bob beerbohm From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Feb 05 17:00:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 01:00:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 39326 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 01:00:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 01:00:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 01:00:07 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11251 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:00:06 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.193] (ppp52.netimaging.com [208.136.132.193]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA11165 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:00:05 -0600 Message-Id: <200102060100.TAA11165@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Bode Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 18:58:35 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been >believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate >demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort >of a meditation contraption and suffocated. This sounds more realistic, but >it does not diminish my appreciation of him or his art. Ok, caught the beginning of this thread. The story as it was figured out in the Bay Area amongst people who knew him - and you have to remember Mark was the one who discovered him like this - was Vaughn was very interested in wanting to experience the moment of death when you see the white light - which is what he began doing - and kept getting closer and closer and not wanting to come back. He was naked as part of the ritual. The part about reducing it down to "auto-erotic asphyxiation" came later. Who knows if he masturbated while in the get-up. Probably - his stuff was definitely erotic. Vaighn also believed in reincarnation - and there are powerful tales of Vaughn making "appearances" in the immediate aftermath of his death. One such anomoly is the mysterious reappearance of vaughn's Cheech ring to Vincent in the Oakland parking lot of Channel 2 down in Jack London Square. It had disappeared many miles away. bob beerbohm From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Feb 05 17:09:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 01:09:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 66229 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 01:09:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 01:09:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 01:09:41 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16438 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:09:40 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.193] (ppp52.netimaging.com [208.136.132.193]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA16353 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:09:39 -0600 Message-Id: <200102060109.TAA16353@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: The Fanzine List Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 19:08:10 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In fact, I just updated it! I pruned it way down (deleting a lot of >non-comic fanzines) and broke it into two files (FANZINE LIST A-G and >FANZINE LIST H-Z). I also added some items and made some corrections. >It is located in the FILES Section. It is an EXCEL File. I will NOT >be updating it again anytime soon, unless input from the group >warrants it. > >- Steve Ogden thanks Steve - it appears I only got half the down load. Now I will go back in and rbing both these new ones in to study and see if I can fill in some gaps for oyu bob beerbohm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 05 17:29:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 01:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 99257 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 01:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 01:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 01:29:34 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.7c.113ab97d (4401) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:29:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7c.113ab97d.27b0ad64@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:29:08 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/5/01 4:02:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, jim.bertges@newline.com writes: << Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort of a meditation contraption and suffocated. This sounds more realistic, but it does not diminish my appreciation of him or his art. >> At the time Vaughn died I'd never even heard of auto-erotic asphixiation. I remember being at an Orlandocon in 1975 which had people in attendance like Harvey Kurtzman and Burne Hogarth, and some of us wondered openly "How does someone accidentally hang themselves?" I heard the more complete story a few years later (including that Vaughn's body was found by his 12 year old son). I've also since read about auto-erotic asphixiation and even the practitioners stress that one does not do this alone because accidental death can easily result if someone isn't there to make sure that the neck device releases like it's supposed to. I even saw a talk show about it where it was revealed that some so-called suicides are actually accidental deaths resulting from auto-erotic asphixiation, but the family finds suicide easier to discuss than revealing that the loved one died as a result of kinky sex gone wrong. I could say more, but there's no point. Vaughn did great work, there's no doubt of that. In one of life's little tricks, the issue of Steranko's Comicscene which was published just weeks before Vaughn's death had a piece by Vaughn in which he openly discussed his sexuality. What I found interesting when I did the Vaughn Bode tribute RBCC in 1975 (#121) was when Gary Brown reported that not all underground cartoonists liked Vaughn's work even though he was one of the most popular underground cartoonists of his day and was able to crack the mainstream magazines which others could not, including National Lampoon.--James Van Hise From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 18:12:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 02:12:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 32152 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 02:12:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 02:12:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9901.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 03:13:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20010206021219.24515.qmail@web9901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.246.19.158] by web9901.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:12:19 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:12:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <7c.113ab97d.27b0ad64@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green AMEN to that! Well said Jim! Gord ----------------------------------------------------- --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/5/01 4:02:32 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > jim.bertges@newline.com writes: > > << Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? > Is the version I've been > believing all these years just a sanitized > interpretation of his unfortunate > demise? It's been my belief for years that he was > upside down in some sort > of a meditation contraption and suffocated. This > sounds more realistic, but > it does not diminish my appreciation of him or his > art. >> > > At the time Vaughn died I'd never even heard of > auto-erotic asphixiation. I > remember being at an Orlandocon in 1975 which had > people in attendance like > Harvey Kurtzman and Burne Hogarth, and some of us > wondered openly "How does > someone accidentally hang themselves?" I heard the > more complete story a few > years later (including that Vaughn's body was found > by his 12 year old son). > I've also since read about auto-erotic asphixiation > and even the > practitioners stress that one does not do this alone > because accidental death > can easily result if someone isn't there to make > sure that the neck device > releases like it's supposed to. I even saw a talk > show about it where it was > revealed that some so-called suicides are actually > accidental deaths > resulting from auto-erotic asphixiation, but the > family finds suicide easier > to discuss than revealing that the loved one died as > a result of kinky sex > gone wrong. I could say more, but there's no point. > Vaughn did great work, there's no doubt of that. > In one of life's little > tricks, the issue of Steranko's Comicscene which was > published just weeks > before Vaughn's death had a piece by Vaughn in which > he openly discussed his > sexuality. What I found interesting when I did the > Vaughn Bode tribute RBCC > in 1975 (#121) was when Gary Brown reported that not > all underground > cartoonists liked Vaughn's work even though he was > one of the most popular > underground cartoonists of his day and was able to > crack the mainstream > magazines which others could not, including National > Lampoon.--James Van Hise > __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From JimInks@aol.com Mon Feb 05 18:44:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JimInks@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 02:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 3690 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 02:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 02:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 02:44:30 -0000 Received: from JimInks@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.13.110d85de (3999) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:44:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13.110d85de.27b0bf0a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:44:26 EST Subject: Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JimInks@aol.com Gary Arkell, Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard (which was a couple months ago). So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog! -Jim Amash (who got a hug from Julie Newmar but no kiss) From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Mon Feb 05 18:50:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 02:50:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 35052 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 02:50:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 02:50:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 02:50:40 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.55.10cec00b (24897) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:50:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <55.10cec00b.27b0c07c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:50:36 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_55.10cec00b.27b0c07c_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM --part1_55.10cec00b.27b0c07c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@aol.com writes: > Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard (which > was a couple months ago). So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog! > ------------ She and Jack Larson were interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS News the other morning, she wore a blue dress with the Superman chest shield on it, she looked great! --steve cohen --part1_55.10cec00b.27b0c07c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@aol.com
writes:


Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard (which
was a couple months ago).  So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog!
------------

She and Jack Larson were interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS News the other
morning, she wore a blue dress with the Superman chest shield on it, she
looked great!
--steve cohen
--part1_55.10cec00b.27b0c07c_boundary-- From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Feb 05 18:52:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 02:52:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23286 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 02:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 02:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 02:52:05 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.79.fe2dd1d (18564) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:51:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <79.fe2dd1d.27b0c0cc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:51:56 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Julie Newmar (off-topic) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_79.fe2dd1d.27b0c0cc_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com --part1_79.fe2dd1d.27b0c0cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@aol.com writes: > > I saw Julie N at a DragonCon show a few years back (hey I rode the escalator behind her), and I was impressed by her charisma and star appeal. Amazing - she shone above all other guests. So, Jim: I know you have your own charisma, but how did you get that hug? Steven Rowe --part1_79.fe2dd1d.27b0c0cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@aol.com
writes:
>Jim Amash (who got a hug from Julie Newmar but no kiss)


I saw Julie N at a DragonCon show a few years back
(hey I rode the escalator behind her),
and I was impressed by her charisma and star appeal.
Amazing - she shone above all other guests.

 So, Jim: I know you have your own charisma, but how did you get that hug?

Steven Rowe --part1_79.fe2dd1d.27b0c0cc_boundary-- From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 19:09:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 03:09:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 51215 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 03:09:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 03:09:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 03:09:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.66] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2001 03:09:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 03:09:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Noel Neill Message-ID: <95nptb+68pe@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <55.10cec00b.27b0c07c@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 798 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.246.19.158 From: flash14221@yahoo.com -Hey, I'm jealous! She did an appearance back in the 70's at SUNYAB and she did a re-creation of one of THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN. I played Jimmy Olsen with her in THE TOMB OF ZAHARIN. She does like her younger fellas! Gord --------------------------------------------------------------- -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., AIRBOYO2@A... wrote: > In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@a... > writes: > > > > Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard (which > > was a couple months ago). So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog! > > ------------ > She and Jack Larson were interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS News the other > morning, she wore a blue dress with the Superman chest shield on it, she > looked great! > --steve cohen From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 05 20:22:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 04:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 69182 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 04:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 04:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9903.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 04:22:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20010206042222.80677.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.246.19.158] by web9903.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:22:22 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:22:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] SQUA TRONT #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4c.1060764b.27b09263@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green In fact, the whole series of SQUA TRONT was a wonder! Thanks to G.B. Love's Fanzine Shoppe I was able to complete the series. Thanks to Jerry Weists very obvious talents too! This zine shows the effect of fanzines perfectly! Issue #1 was very well done, very fannish, and obviously put out by a teenage tyro. As each issue came out the sophistication of the material increased as did the maturity of it's creator. There was a progression of maturity as it's issue number increased. It was as if you could see Jerry developing as a fan, as an author and as a man with each ascending number. This was obvious with a number of young fans as well. By the way, wasn't Paul Seydor a zine publisher in the 60's? I could swear I recall the name, but not the fanzine. He recently appeared on a TV special as an author of a book on Director Sam Peckinpaw. Best to da bunch, Gord -------------------------------------------------- --- GaryB98294@aol.com wrote: > I learned about "The Master Race" story from an > article in Graphic Story Magazine. (Richard Kyle??). > With some pages/panels from the story. > Of course, I now have a complete EC collection, > thanks to the Gemstone reprint series. In mint, > too!! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Feb 05 21:28:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 05:28:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 83271 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 05:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 05:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 06:29:27 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03757 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:22 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.70] (fre-60.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.70]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03672 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:21 -0600 Message-Id: <200102060528.XAA03672@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 23:26:51 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/5/01 9:46:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, JimInks@aol.com >writes: > > >> Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard (which >> was a couple months ago). So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog! >> ------------ >She and Jack Larson were interviewed by Bryant Gumbel on CBS News the other >morning, she wore a blue dress with the Superman chest shield on it, she >looked great! >--steve cohen sny ide who to contact, agent or otherwise, on booking them for a comics show? This being the 50th anniv of the Reeves TV show's debut? bob From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Mon Feb 05 21:57:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 05:57:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18006 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 05:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 05:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.4) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 06:58:14 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.2d.713ac94 (24897) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:57:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2d.713ac94.27b0ec2d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:57:01 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.713ac94.27b0ec2d_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM --part1_2d.713ac94.27b0ec2d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/01 12:46:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > sny ide who to contact, agent or otherwise, on booking them for a comics > show? This being the 50th anniv of the Reeves TV show's debut? > - That was the reason for the CBS appearance with Gumbel! I wish I knew how to contact Superman's Pal and Superman's Girlfriend, too bad we don't have some kind of signal watch or something! --steve cohen --part1_2d.713ac94.27b0ec2d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/6/01 12:46:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes:


sny ide who to contact, agent or otherwise, on booking them for a comics
show?  This being the 50th anniv of the Reeves TV show's debut?
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That was the reason for the CBS appearance with Gumbel!
I wish I knew how to contact Superman's Pal and Superman's Girlfriend, too
bad we don't have some kind of signal watch or something!
--steve cohen
--part1_2d.713ac94.27b0ec2d_boundary-- From GaryB98294@aol.com Mon Feb 05 22:35:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 06:35:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 88739 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 06:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 06:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 07:36:23 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.5a.10bc8ed8 (3984) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:35:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5a.10bc8ed8.27b0f521@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:35:13 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5a.10bc8ed8.27b0f521_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: GaryB98294@aol.com --part1_5a.10bc8ed8.27b0f521_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I always have made the claim that I've been in bed with Lois Lane. Back in the mid 1970s there was a convention in Palm Beach and she was the guest of honor. I was asked to be one of her escorts to dinner on Saturday night, so I went to her room with another person to walk down to dinner with her. She was very nice and we sat on the edge of the bed as she finished getting ready. She wore the Lois Lane outfit, complete with hat and heels. Great lady. --part1_5a.10bc8ed8.27b0f521_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I always have made the claim that I've been in bed with Lois Lane. Back in
the mid 1970s there was a convention in Palm Beach and she was the guest of
honor. I was asked to be one of her escorts to dinner on Saturday night, so I
went to her room with another person to walk down to dinner with her. She was
very nice and we sat on the edge of the bed as she finished getting ready.
She wore the Lois Lane outfit, complete with hat and heels. Great lady. --part1_5a.10bc8ed8.27b0f521_boundary-- From tpstewart@aol.com Mon Feb 05 23:00:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 07:00:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 58737 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 07:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 07:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 07:00:35 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.e1.ff62c83 (3963) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:00:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:00:24 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 142 From: tpstewart@aol.com http://cbsnews.com/earlyshow/entertainment/celebspot/20010131reunion_superman. shtml Check out the above address for info on Larsons' and Neill's appearence on CBS this morning Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart. From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 06 05:48:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 13:48:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 91679 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 13:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 13:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 14:49:58 -0000 Received: from default ([207.1.37.254]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id NAA07332; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:42:26 GMT for œ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:42:26 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010206134136.0068377c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:41:36 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I Am Not a Member of This Group? From: Tony Isabella Hey, kids... When I tried to access the files, I was told I was not a member of this group. But, since I've been receiving the messages just fine and my own messages have been appearing just fine, I'm confused. Is there something else I need to do to access the files? Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From odbs@zoomnet.net Tue Feb 06 06:10:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 14:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 65140 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 14:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 14:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 14:10:43 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-131-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.31.75.132]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA11838 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:10:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c09046$7536a5c0$844b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: Subject: re: I Am Not a Member of This Group? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:09:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.8B4346E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.8B4346E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0901C.8B4346E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0901C.8B4346E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony: I don't know if this is the case, but the problem could be that you don't h= ave a Yahoo account. If that's so then you should be able to correct the p= roblem by following the link I've provided and submitting a member name and= password. Otherwise you've experienced yet another manifestation of the b= urgeoning Yahoo frustration! Cheers, Dave http://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=3Dus&.src=3Dygrp&new=3D1&= .done=3Dhttp://groups.yahoo.com%2Fmygroups ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0901C.8B4346E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tony:
I don't know if this is the = case, but=20 the problem could be that you don't have a Yahoo account.  If that's s= o=20 then you should be able to correct the problem by following the link I've=20 provided and submitting a member name and password.  Otherwise you've= =20 experienced yet another manifestation of the burgeoning Yahoo=20 frustration!
Cheers,
Dave

 <= A=20 href=3D"http://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=3Dus&.src=3Dyg= rp&new=3D1&.done=3Dhttp://groups.yahoo.com%2Fmygroups">http://edit.= yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=3Dus&.src=3Dygrp&new=3D1&.= done=3Dhttp://groups.yahoo.com%2Fmygroups ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0901C.8B4346E0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.8B4346E0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Welcome to Yahoo!.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Welcome to Yahoo!.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=3Dhttp://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=3Dus&.src=3Dyg= rp&new=3D1&.done=3Dhttp://groups.yahoo.com%2Fmygroups [InternetShortcut] URL=3Dhttp://edit.yahoo.com/config/eval_register?.intl=3Dus&.src=3Dygrp&n= ew=3D1&.done=3Dhttp://groups.yahoo.com%2Fmygroups Modified=3DE0F0A05F4590C00165 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.8B4346E0-- From ditko37@home.com Tue Feb 06 07:54:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 15:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 41299 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 15:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 15:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail1.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.88) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 15:54:31 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail1.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010206155326.GINF28457.femail1.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:53:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3A801DF9.15EDAF6E@home.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:53:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] I Am Not a Member of This Group? References: <1.5.4.32.20010206134136.0068377c@mail.ohio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Tony Isabella wrote: > > Hey, kids... > > When I tried to access the files, I was told I was not a member of this > group. But, since I've been receiving the messages just fine and my own > messages have been appearing just fine, I'm confused. > > Is there something else I need to do to access the files? And just to clarify what Mr. Rawlins said, a Yahoo "account" is not the same as a Yahoo "e-mail account". Just like when you would sign in to egroups on the 'Net, they just want a User ID and Password. When they did the change-overto Yahoo, Yahoo insisted you "convert" your account. It was pretty easy, but they never made ANY attempt to explain it to their customers, or us moderators. WONDERFUL service. And yes, Robert, I too receive messages out of order, but that was also happening to me on egroups for the past two months or so. And Jim V., and to anyone else, sometimes messages pop up right away, sometimes it takes awhile. If you're ever worried a message has gone missing, you can always check the home page for this group, as they ALWAYS end up there quicker than through e-mail, and you'll know whether or not you have to re-send it. 99 out of 100 times, it's made it to the home page MESSAGES section, but just not yet to everyone's e-mail. And how does everyone like the new subject header "[cbzines]"? I trust that is short enough for everyone? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From GSArkell@yahoo.com Tue Feb 06 08:02:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 16:02:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 49953 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 16:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 16:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9609.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.188) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 17:03:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20010206160247.33297.qmail@web9609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.171.232.1] by web9609.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:02:47 PST Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:02:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Noel Neill To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <13.110d85de.27b0bf0a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gary Arkell I was a freshman in College, and I went to a small NYC con which showcased TV SF shows, authors and some movie celebs. I mainly when to visit the dealer room, but I also wanted to see Noel. I patiently waited on line to get her autograph. She was beautiful as ever. I told her she was more prettier in person, and she said: "You sweet young man!!" She kissed me on the cheek, and signed my program. I came home with lipstick on my cheek, and my father said: "Did you go on a date? I thought you were going to one of those Comic Cons? Who was she?" I muttered: "Lois Lane..." My father was dazed: "Lois Who? I do not know any Lanes around here..." Never mind,Dad... --- JimInks@aol.com wrote: > Gary Arkell, > Noel Neill is still alive and in pretty decent health, last I heard > (which > was a couple months ago). So you got a kiss from her, eh? Lucky dog! > > -Jim Amash (who got a hug from Julie Newmar but no kiss) > ===== REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY DON'T DREAM IT BE HERE Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From ditko37@home.com Tue Feb 06 09:22:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 17:22:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 92853 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 17:22:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 17:22:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 17:22:49 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010206172244.HOUF2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:22:44 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8032AA.E69BA02@home.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:21:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: 100 Members! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Yes, it has been a mercurial ride to triple digits. In less than one week, we've hit the big one-oh-oh. Thanks to all those who have join, and continue to contribute. Also, with a little luck, I'll have those Kirby/Ditko articles up in the FILES section today. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jim.bertges@newline.com Tue Feb 06 09:57:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 17:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 12734 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 17:57:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 17:57:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 17:57:44 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:57:36 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB418@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:02:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Thanks to everyone for all the information on this topic. It seems that the reality if the subject is probably a combination of both stories. Sorry to have caused all the morbid discussion. As it is, we should continue to celebrate Vaughn's life and the work he gave us and let the circumstances of his untimely death be. It's bad enough that we lost him. As I said before, nothing can diminish the appreciation of his art and writing. Everything he did in life contributed to his work and made him what he was. Thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com [mailto:Jimvanhise@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:29 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/Comic cons In a message dated 2/5/01 4:02:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, jim.bertges@newline.com writes: << Jim is that the accurate version of Bode's death? Is the version I've been believing all these years just a sanitized interpretation of his unfortunate demise? It's been my belief for years that he was upside down in some sort of a meditation contraption and suffocated. This sounds more realistic, but it does not diminish my appreciation of him or his art. >> At the time Vaughn died I'd never even heard of auto-erotic asphixiation. I remember being at an Orlandocon in 1975 which had people in attendance like Harvey Kurtzman and Burne Hogarth, and some of us wondered openly "How does someone accidentally hang themselves?" I heard the more complete story a few years later (including that Vaughn's body was found by his 12 year old son). I've also since read about auto-erotic asphixiation and even the practitioners stress that one does not do this alone because accidental death can easily result if someone isn't there to make sure that the neck device releases like it's supposed to. I even saw a talk show about it where it was revealed that some so-called suicides are actually accidental deaths resulting from auto-erotic asphixiation, but the family finds suicide easier to discuss than revealing that the loved one died as a result of kinky sex gone wrong. I could say more, but there's no point. Vaughn did great work, there's no doubt of that. In one of life's little tricks, the issue of Steranko's Comicscene which was published just weeks before Vaughn's death had a piece by Vaughn in which he openly discussed his sexuality. What I found interesting when I did the Vaughn Bode tribute RBCC in 1975 (#121) was when Gary Brown reported that not all underground cartoonists liked Vaughn's work even though he was one of the most popular underground cartoonists of his day and was able to crack the mainstream magazines which others could not, including National Lampoon.--James Van Hise To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 06 12:23:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 20:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29985 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-f25.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.153]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id UAA14771; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:16:30 GMT for œ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:16:30 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010206201541.0067b360@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:15:41 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG's #30th Anniversary Issue From: Tony Isabella At 03:30 PM 2/4/01 EST, Jerry Bails wrote: >Why are you so mysterious? People are always recommending a Web site or >issue of a fanzine without telling what the subject is? Is there a PR rule >that says that people jump at the unknown? I'll see the issue of GCD because >I'm a regular subber, but it is not my nature to jump on recommendations that >don't give me a clue as to what they are recommending.<<< I'm so much trying to be mysterious as I am trying to make sure the readers get their money's worth. Like many writers, I've grown weary of any surprises in my work being revealed in ads and solicitations. In this case, I believe the anniversary issue and my column in particular will be of interest to the list members. However, saying more than that might well diminish their enjoyment. Comics and magazines ain't cheap any more and, as many have said, no longer represent a good value for the cover prices. Remembering the kick I used to get from surprises and twists in the comic books I bought as a kid, I want my current readers to have the same kind of fun. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From mcatron@planetcable.net Tue Feb 06 14:54:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 22:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 83210 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:43:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:54:38 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron On 2/6/01 1:02 PM BERTGES, JIM at jim.bertges@newline.com said: >Thanks to everyone for all the information on this topic. It seems that the >reality if the subject is probably a combination of both stories. Probably not. One version of the story is probably closer to the truth than the other. You can't divine historical accuracy by compromise. If you really want to chase this down, you need to go to primary sources, not stuff like "I thought I read something that said." Primary sources would include family members, police and coroner's reports, etc. I'm not saying you should do this, but the only on the list with any real knowledge about this seems to be Jim Van Hise, since he did contemporaneous reporting of the event. Jim, could you post your original article? From jim.bertges@newline.com Tue Feb 06 15:04:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 23:04:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 89470 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 23:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 23:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 23:04:22 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:04:13 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB423@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:09:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" I think it's best to let the subject rest, since the only person who could really tell anyone what Vaughn was trying to accomplish that day is Vaughn himself. Let's just enjoy what he gave us while he was here and not belabor the point any further. -----Original Message----- From: M Catron [mailto:mcatron@planetcable.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:55 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' On 2/6/01 1:02 PM BERTGES, JIM at jim.bertges@newline.com said: >Thanks to everyone for all the information on this topic. It seems that the >reality if the subject is probably a combination of both stories. Probably not. One version of the story is probably closer to the truth than the other. You can't divine historical accuracy by compromise. If you really want to chase this down, you need to go to primary sources, not stuff like "I thought I read something that said." Primary sources would include family members, police and coroner's reports, etc. I'm not saying you should do this, but the only on the list with any real knowledge about this seems to be Jim Van Hise, since he did contemporaneous reporting of the event. Jim, could you post your original article? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Feb 06 15:48:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 23:48:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 89087 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 23:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 23:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 23:48:52 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01892 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:48:51 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.57] (fre-47.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.57]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01807 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:48:50 -0600 Message-Id: <200102062348.RAA01807@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 01 17:47:20 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >From: BERTGES, JIM, jim.bertges@newline.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: 'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com', >comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups. > >I think it's best to let the subject rest, since the only person who could >really tell anyone what Vaughn was trying to accomplish that day is Vaughn >himself. Let's just enjoy what he gave us while he was here and not belabor >the point any further. One thing I would not do is simply boil down vaughn's death to auto-erotic etc - there was a higher plane the man was reaching to bob From jim.bertges@newline.com Tue Feb 06 15:52:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_2_1); 6 Feb 2001 23:52:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7981 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 23:52:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2001 23:52:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 00:53:28 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:52:15 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB424@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:57:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beerbohm [mailto:beerbohm@teknetwork.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:47 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' >From: BERTGES, JIM, jim.bertges@newline.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: 'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com', >comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups. > >I think it's best to let the subject rest, since the only person who could >really tell anyone what Vaughn was trying to accomplish that day is Vaughn >himself. Let's just enjoy what he gave us while he was here and not belabor >the point any further. One thing I would not do is simply boil down vaughn's death to auto-erotic etc - there was a higher plane the man was reaching to bob To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Feb 06 17:25:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 01:25:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 55243 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 01:25:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 01:25:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r11.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.65) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 02:26:20 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.52.6ebf713 (10052) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:25:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52.6ebf713.27b1fded@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:25:01 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bode' To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Speaking of dying, I was just told that Hal Schuster (of Comics Feature fame, infamy, whathaveyou) died last April 4th in a San Francisco hospital. 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Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --0-1648190505-981511175=:17400 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com via web704 X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (203.109.252.5) by mta113.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Feb 2001 17:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihug.co.nz (p169-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.169]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA05683 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:32:40 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p169-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.169] claimed to be ihug.co.nz Message-ID: <3A80A490.B2FCF24@ihug.co.nz> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:27:45 +1300 From: "j.Maxwell Legg" Organization: http://welcome.to/ekus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Casey Brennan" Subject: Re: Here's an old comic by me -- can you open it? 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JimInks@aol.com Tue Feb 06 18:10:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JimInks@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 02:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 88444 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 02:10:45 -0000 Received: from JimInks@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.cd.205f1dd (4441) for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:10:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:10:39 EST Subject: problems? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JimInks@aol.com Gary A. Great story! I didn't get digest #9 for some reason. Can anyone help me out? -Jim Amash From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 06 19:02:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 03:02:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28458 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:02:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 03:02:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 03:02:40 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-b14.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.46]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id CAA23371; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:55:50 GMT for œ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:55:50 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010207025503.0068dd1c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:55:03 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] BRONZE AGE COMIC BY T. CASEY BRENNAN & STEVE SKEATES From: Tony Isabella At 05:59 PM 2/6/01 -0800, T. Casey Brennan send attachments: Will you please stop sending attachments to mailing lists? You've done this elsewhere and it's really lousy netiquette. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From mcatron@planetcable.net Tue Feb 06 19:02:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 03:02:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 97442 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 03:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 03:02:48 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:02:47 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron I agree with Bob, too. Which is why I'm interested in the facts as best they can be determined. The subject, of course, will not rest and the lame-joke one-liners about Vaughn's death will continue to besmirch his legacy. I am probably not going to write the biography of Vaughn Bode. But somebody should. On 2/6/01 6:57 PM BERTGES, JIM at jim.bertges@newline.com said: >I agree. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Beerbohm [mailto:beerbohm@teknetwork.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:47 PM >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' > > >>From: BERTGES, JIM, jim.bertges@newline.com >>Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >>To: 'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com', >>comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups. >> >>I think it's best to let the subject rest, since the only person who could >>really tell anyone what Vaughn was trying to accomplish that day is Vaughn >>himself. Let's just enjoy what he gave us while he was here and not belabor >>the point any further. > > >One thing I would not do is simply boil down vaughn's death to >auto-erotic etc - there was a higher plane the man was reaching to > >bob From ditko37@home.com Tue Feb 06 19:09:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 03:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 47267 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:09:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 03:09:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.egroups.com) (10.1.10.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 03:09:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.96] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2001 03:09:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 03:08:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Attachments NOW Aren't Allowed; Send Scans To FILES Sec. Message-ID: <95qe70+rm0b@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010207025503.0068dd1c@mail.ohio.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1142 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.230 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Tony Isabella wrote: > Will you please stop sending attachments to mailing lists? You've > done this elsewhere and it's really lousy netiquette. I have changed the settings to NOT allow attachments to come through the list. If you have any scans, please file them in the FILES section... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ Then, give us a link to it. Or, in the FILES section, they have something that will automatically notify the group of a file having been uploaded, if you choose that option. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Feb 06 19:52:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 03:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20221 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 03:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 03:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 03:52:01 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16590 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:52:01 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.196] (ppp55.netimaging.com [208.136.132.196]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA16505 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:51:59 -0600 Message-Id: <200102070351.VAA16505@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Tue, 6 Feb 01 21:50:30 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bode' >Sent: 2/1/20 11:15 AM >Received: 2/6/01 8:46 PM >From: James Van Hise, Jimvanhise@aol.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >Speaking of dying, I was just told that Hal Schuster (of Comics Feature >fame, >infamy, whathaveyou) died last April 4th in a San Francisco hospital. Anyone >have any confirmation on this?--James Van Hise Last i was in contact with Hal S was in David LeBlanc's CBEM and he was emailing from Thailand ro some such. That was a few years ago. bob beerbohm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Feb 06 22:03:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 06:03:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20948 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 06:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 06:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 07:04:29 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ee.10ce17c0 (4212) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:03:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:03:17 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bode' To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/6/01 7:55:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << Last i was in contact with Hal S was in David LeBlanc's CBEM and he was emailing from Thailand ro some such. That was a few years ago. bob beerbohm >> There's a web site at www.scottmurray.com/schuster.htm which reports his death at the end of a profile of him.--James Van Hise From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 06 23:21:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 07:21:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 76415 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 07:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 07:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 07:21:55 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-b13.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.45]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id HAA11604; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:15:20 GMT for œ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:15:20 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010207071433.006745ec@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 02:14:33 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons From: Tony Isabella At 03:55 PM 2/5/01 -0000, Nick wrote: >Did anyone on this list atttend that con and have any stories to >tell? How about your first convention memories? I think my first was >around 1970-71, at (I believe)the Statler-Hilton Hotel. It was one of >Phil Seuling's cons, and all I can remember was being overwhelmed by >all the comics around me. I was 10 years old, went with my brother, >who was seven years older than me and was collecting for years, and I >do know that he came home with a shopping bag full of comics (we had >to sneak the comics into the house, else face the wrath of our >parents, who didn't particularly care for us buying them - sound >familiar?). <<< I think the 1971 Seuling con were my first New York con. I stayed over for a few days and visited various comics companies with Mark Evanier. What with Mark being Jack Kirby's assistant, all sorts of doors were opened for us. My most powerful memory of that first show actually came *after* the show was over. I was an early bird and, wandering around the Sttaler-Hilton before meeting Mark for breakfast, made a stop at the ballroom where the convention had taken place. The moment had this eerie "last man on Earth" feeling to it. There were only a few signs that there had *been* a convention, but just enough to stand in stark contrast to the wonders that had greeted me on my arrival. Y'know, I still that get that twinge of loss after a really great convention. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 06 23:23:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 07:23:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 95843 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 07:23:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 07:23:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 07:23:08 -0000 Received: from default (ppp-b13.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.45]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id HAA11665; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:16:35 GMT for œ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:16:35 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20010207071548.0068f35c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 02:15:48 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Attachments NOW Aren't Allowed; Send Scans To FILES Sec. From: Tony Isabella At 03:08 AM 2/7/01 -0000, you wrote: >I have changed the settings to NOT allow attachments to come >through the list.<<< Thank you, Blake. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From GaryB98294@aol.com Wed Feb 07 08:44:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 16:44:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 75287 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 16:44:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 16:44:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 16:44:51 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.cb.defed4c (4408) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:44:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:44:44 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: GaryB98294@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I first went to the 1969 NYCon and had some great experiences. During a pre-Con visit with Dick Giordano DC, I ran into Al Williamson, who showed me around for the rest of the day. He turned in a job for one of DC's horror books that afternoon and we had lunch with Giordano, Neal Adams and Frank Robbins. Boy, some of the stories I heard at THAT lunch. What a great time. It was my photo of that Con's banquet honoring Hal Foster that Bill Schelly used in his Golden Age of Fandom book. On the way to the banquet, I got in an elevator and right behind me steps Foster and Gil Kane, who introduced Foster to the audience. Both signed books for me and were very kind. When I told Foster I lived in Miami, he invited me to visit him some day in his Florida home. I never made it, sad to say. I also bought two pages of Adams originals for $20 each and a Kirby FF page for $30. It was a wonderful con. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jim.bertges@newline.com Wed Feb 07 09:42:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 17:42:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 83874 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 17:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 17:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 17:42:11 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:42:03 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB42C@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] T. CASEY BRENNAN Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:47:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" I don't like to be a teller of tales, but T. Casey uses these groups for self-promotion and ego inflation. He does not contribute anything useful. We had him involved with our Ultrazine group for a while and it was the same thing, all he ever sent was stuff about stuff he did long ago and why he's so great. If you enjoy his writing, that's one thing, but eventually his posts just become annoying. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Isabella [mailto:tonyisa@ohio.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:55 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] BRONZE AGE COMIC BY T. CASEY BRENNAN & STEVE SKEATES At 05:59 PM 2/6/01 -0800, T. Casey Brennan send attachments: Will you please stop sending attachments to mailing lists? You've done this elsewhere and it's really lousy netiquette. Tony Isabella ********************************* ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com From jim.bertges@newline.com Wed Feb 07 09:45:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 7 Feb 2001 17:45:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 98948 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 17:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2001 17:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 17:44:09 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:44:01 -0800 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB42D@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:48:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" That's something I'd be very interested in reading. -----Original Message----- From: M Catron [mailto:mcatron@planetcable.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:03 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [cbzines] Bode' I agree with Bob, too. Which is why I'm interested in the facts as best they can be determined. The subject, of course, will not rest and the lame-joke one-liners about Vaughn's death will continue to besmirch his legacy. I am probably not going to write the biography of Vaughn Bode. But somebody should. From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Feb 07 17:10:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 01:10:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9912 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 01:10:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 01:10:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 01:10:03 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29328 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:10:02 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.67] (fre-57.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.67]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29243 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:10:01 -0600 Message-Id: <200102080110.TAA29243@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 01 19:08:32 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe himself as a good christian? Hogwash. robert beerbohm From mclallen@usa.net Wed Feb 07 17:20:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclallen@usa.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 01:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4282 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 01:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 01:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nw179.netaddress.usa.net) (204.68.24.79) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 02:21:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 15429 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2001 01:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20010208012010.15428.qmail@nw179.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.79 by nw179 for [64.156.36.33] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.15B.01) on Thu Feb 8 01:20:10 GMT 2001 Date: 7 Feb 2001 18:20:10 MST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [[cbzines] HMO Killed GB Love?] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.15B.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David McLallen Robert Beerbohm wrote: > ---------------------------------------------=20 > Attachment:=A0=20 > MIME Type:=A0multipart/alternative=20 > ---------------------------------------------=20 > I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it= =20 > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB=20 > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment=20 > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. >=20 > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved=20 > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of= =20 > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe=20 > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. >=20 > robert beerbohm Well, I was going to write a post about this subject, but you already said what I was going to say (except for the part about Omaha. I still subscrib= e.) Very eloquently stated, Robert. David David R. McLallen dandcmclallen@earthlink.net mclallen@usa.net "I wish I was a river Loving every rugged mile A silver cord Descending, bending canyons with a smile" - James Lee Stanley, "River" ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Wed Feb 07 17:27:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 01:27:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 53468 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 01:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 01:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mclean.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.57) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 01:27:11 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (user-2ini8h2.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.34.34]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14680 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:27:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002401c0916e$6bf4a880$02000003@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "RG" To: References: <200102080110.TAA29243@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:28:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "RG" You are exactly correct. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beerbohm" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: [cbzines] HMO Killed GB Love? > I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. > > robert beerbohm > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Feb 07 17:39:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 01:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 56904 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 01:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 01:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 02:40:41 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.2f.10af8f40 (4207) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:39:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2f.10af8f40.27b352d4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:39:32 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/7/01 5:33:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, graphic_illusion@mindspring.com writes: << > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. >> He's a Christian second (or maybe third or fifth if you read the interview with him a year ago, conducted by a Republican, in which Bush mocked a woman who'd recently been executed in Texas) but a Republican puppet first. While not all Republican Presidents are puppets, it was obvious long ago that this is all that Bush was. His appointee to the office once held by James Watt is a Watt crony who once argued before the Supreme Court that anti-pollution laws were unconstitutional. Bush is already pushing to open for oil drilling the last pristine segment of Alaska not already being drilled. A very sad state of affairs.--James Van Hise From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 02:28:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 10:28:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 18063 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 10:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 10:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 10:28:42 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.aa.10d34470 (4239) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:28:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:28:30 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/7/01 8:48:13 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/7/01 5:33:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, >graphic_illusion@mindspring.com writes: > ><< > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all >of > > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. >> > >He's a Christian second (or maybe third or fifth if you read the interview > >with him a year ago, conducted by a Republican, in which Bush mocked a >woman >who'd recently been executed in Texas) but a Republican puppet first. While > >not all Republican Presidents are puppets, it was obvious long ago that >this >is all that Bush was. His appointee to the office once held by James Watt >is >a Watt crony who once argued before the Supreme Court that anti-pollution > >laws were unconstitutional. Bush is already pushing to open for oil drilling > >the last pristine segment of Alaska not already being drilled. A very sad > >state of affairs.--James Van Hise > Jim, Your thoughtful concern suggests to me that you might enjoy discussions on the Global Village list that I conduct. Here's liitle intro followed by a list of threads I've archived. You may sample any of these or ask me to add you to the list. I hope to hear from you. Bestest, Jerry Bails ----- 'THE RUSH TO BUY VOTES The freakish speed with which both political parties are attempting to win the votes of working women by promising...' Those are the words I used 12 years ago in opening an essay I wrote for a geo-political apa, GLOBAL VILLAGERS, which I established in 1988. Others who contributed to that apa (amateur press association) were Martin O'Hearn, Jack Schiff, Murray and Laura Ward (Canada), Anne and Ilpo Lagestedt (Finland), Elizabeth Holden (Canada), Zanvil Sawolkin, Daniel Kumermann (Czechoslovakia) and Steve Freedkin and later others. Like many apas, it consisted of people who like to use writing as a means of thinking, and we had some lively discussions. We discussed works ranging from the classic Garrett Hardin's Evolution, Population and Birth Control to the very latest of the world's most challenging publications. No less than 30 periodicals had their logos arranged in a collage that graced the cover of our fifth issue. Despite the need at that time to rely upon regular postal services, we managed many very exciting exchanges. What we learned from each other was worth more that I can express in words, but maybe a small sample will help to convey the feeling. You may recall the technological catastrophes of that year that prompted one of our discussions. In response to some remarks I made about my experience as a technical writer for Westinghouse's jet engine plant in Kansas City and the problems in the field of even small changes in design when high-risk technology is pushed to the limit, Cat Yronwode recapped the classic story of the wonderful old DC-3 and its many, far less successful successors. As a result of our exchange, we were able to formulate some interesting caveats for the introduction of new technology. They deserved a wider circulation than our limited means at that time. The time has come for me to attempt something similar to the GLOBAL VILLAGER using the facilities of the Internet. I have, with the help of a dear friend in Norway, decided to host a new list, THE GLOBAL VILLAGE. (Note the slight change in name, which is a tip of the hat to the late Canadian sociologist Marshall McLuhan.) This new list (or online apa) has no connection to the Grand Comic-book Database project, although I'm hoping that the wide interest shown on the GCD Chat list in serious discussions of science, history, philosophy and world affairs means that some of you will want to join me in the GLOBAL VILLAGE. Everyone is welcome. Diversity of experience and outlook is valued. In the GLOBAL VILLAGE, longer thought pieces will certainly be encouraged, but no minimum contribution is required as was/is typical of print-media apas. I intend to start off slow and get our feet wet first before opening the invitation to the world via a web page. Any thoughts on any subject are welcomed. I tend to be very democratic, so what few aspirations I have may be altered in the group experience, but it is only fair for me to lay them out. (1) I don't want to duplicate the highly uncritical transmission of rumors and urban myths that flood the Web. I will play devil's advocate and challenge unsubstantiated claims to the best of my ability. Uncovering our hidden assumptions is one of my prime directives as an educator. I couldn't relax it if I wanted to. (2) I will jealously guard the right of anyone to defend any philosophical or ideological position, even if I have to join him if s/he is woefully outnumbered. I have some experience in recognizing silent contracts to intimidate people into silence, and I will join the fray on the side of anyone who wants to have his/her point of view heard above the din of the crowd. The competition of ideas, not people, is the one competition that I whole-heartily support. (3) I want to avoid flames, and the best way I know to do that is to head off attacks against persons (ad hominem) and keep the focus on ideas, evidence and reasons. I will privately warn individuals when they begin to personally insult or abuse those with whom they disagree. I hope others will feel free to give me similar feedback if I stray across that sometimes fine line. (4) I believe in free and open inquiry on any subject on a cordial and civil basis. No subject is taboo. If you have certain areas that would offend you to discuss openly, then this forum may not be for you. Let me give you an example of a topic that got some extensive discussion in the paper version of the GLOBAL VILLAGER. A very well-known gay underground artist contributed a piece exploring the internal evidence that Jesus was gay. Religious leaders and all public figures are fair game for analysis of any kind; however, private individuals, such as the members of the apa, are not proper subjects. As I say, the experience and collective will of the group may modify these guidelines, but I will defend them based on my experience of 45 years in facilitating groups discussing everything from Plato, St. Augustine, Dante, Descartes, Spinoza and Frances Bacon to Marx, Einstein, Darwin, Sir Arthur Eddington, John Dewey, Bertrand Russell and the Vienna Circle. All ideas are fair game. If that appeals to you, let me know, and I'll sign you up. You are free to lurk, if that is your wish. Bestest, Jerry Bails Global Village Archives GV-About the Global Village GV-Becoming a World Leader GV-Blood Revenge GV-British Perspective GV-Bush & the Bipartisan Hustle GV-Bush Foreign Policy GV-Calculations of Risk GV-Compulsive Behavior GV-Concentration/working GV-Cultural Differences GV-Dubya quotes GV-Economic Policy GV-Election 2000 GV-Electorate Nullification GV-Flipping Conventional Wisdom GV-Gatekeeping the News GV-Government in history GV-Human Behavior GV-Human Fecundity GV-If I Could Live So Long GV-Initiative vs. Invention GV-Institutions of Change GV-Janet Reno GV-Language GV-Learning GV-Limits of Science GV-LISTERS GV-Literacy Stats GV-Making Hard Life-Decisions GV-Means and Ends GV-Measure 1 Sonoma County, CA GV-Military Policy GV-News Briefs GV-Oil Reserves argument GV-Personal Philosophy GV-Personality & Anger GV-Population growth research GV-Poverty in children GV-Progress GV-Racism GV-Sexual Differences GV-Small-scale Nuclear Power GV-Teaching Math GV-Values in Children's Stories GV-Invitation to participate GV-Global Change From artistprofile@yahoo.com Thu Feb 08 09:00:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: artistprofile@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 17:00:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 45128 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 17:00:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 17:00:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 17:00:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: artistprofile@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.116] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2001 17:00:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:59:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzine Pro Index Message-ID: <95ujaf+g1sk@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 738 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.111.65.117 From: artistprofile@yahoo.com Good Day fellow Fanziners It has been my observation over the years that some of the most informative Articles/Bios on various Comic Pros is stuck away in the 1000's of obscure Fanzines out there. To this end I've just created a "Fanzine Pro Index" Database file for this egroup. Currently I just have this setup with a database field outline and only one database record, to serve as an example. I will start digging out all my old/new Fanzines and adding more records, but I wanted to first receive some feedback on this. Are the Fields adequate, or should something be added/deleted? Is anyone else out there going to contribute to this? Let me know. Just click on "Database" to view this Record format. Thanks A.P. From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 08 11:02:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 19:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27832 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 19:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 19:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:01:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.48] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2001 19:01:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:01:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: I Am Not a Member of This Group? Message-ID: <95uqf2+ocuc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A801DF9.15EDAF6E@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2389 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.190 From: "Jerry " I belong to the Ultrazine fanzine e-group, and it was also "taken over" by Yahoo Groups. I must say that Yahoo sucks! everybody in the group had to get new Yahoo ID's and the members are not happy campers. Course since this service is Free I guess I cant complain to loudly. -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > Tony Isabella wrote: > > > > Hey, kids... > > > > When I tried to access the files, I was told I was not a member of this > > group. But, since I've been receiving the messages just fine and my own > > messages have been appearing just fine, I'm confused. > > > > Is there something else I need to do to access the files? > > And just to clarify what Mr. Rawlins said, a Yahoo "account" is not the > same as a Yahoo "e-mail account". Just like when you would sign in to > egroups on the 'Net, they just want a User ID and Password. > When they did the change-overto Yahoo, Yahoo insisted you "convert" > your account. It was pretty easy, but they never made ANY attempt to explain > it to their customers, or us moderators. WONDERFUL service. > And yes, Robert, I too receive messages out of order, but that was also > happening to me on egroups for the past two months or so. > And Jim V., and to anyone else, sometimes messages pop up right away, > sometimes it takes awhile. If you're ever worried a message has gone missing, > you can always check the home page for this group, as they ALWAYS end up > there quicker than through e-mail, and you'll know whether or not you have > to re-send it. 99 out of 100 times, it's made it to the home page MESSAGES > section, but just not yet to everyone's e-mail. > And how does everyone like the new subject header "[cbzines]"? I trust > that is short enough for everyone? > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 11:06:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 19:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 52329 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 19:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 19:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:05:59 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.da.210c24a (4563) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:05:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:05:55 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Pro Index To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 12:06:02 PM, artistprofile@yahoo.com writes: >Good Day fellow Fanziners > >It has been my observation over the years that some of the most >informative Articles/Bios on various Comic Pros is stuck away in the >1000's of obscure Fanzines out there. To this end I've just created >a >"Fanzine Pro Index" Database file for this egroup. > >Currently I just have this setup with a database field outline and >only one database record, to serve as an example. I will start >digging out all my old/new Fanzines and adding more records, but I >wanted to first receive some feedback on this. Are the Fields >adequate, or should something be added/deleted? Is anyone else out >there going to contribute to this? Let me know. > >Just click on "Database" to view this Record format. > >Thanks >A.P. A.P. (?), The word ''Database'' is not a hyperlink on my server, so please supply the web site URL. This is an amirable undertaining, and I'm willing to share the tons of info I have on zines carrying bios of comics people, drawn from the Who's Who of 20th Century American Comic Books. If you format is not too different from mine, I can transcribe my data. It may not contain data for some of your fields, but it would identify where the biographical material appeared. My site is: http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ There may be other such databases. I'm sure APA-I (the comics indexing APA) has carried such listings over the years. You'd have to check with the individual(s) who created them for permissions. Ray Bottorff, who is on this list, is the coordinator/central mailer of APA-I and can probably direct you to the current Librarian of APA-I. Good luck. Bestest, Jerry From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 08 11:26:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 19:26:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1165 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 19:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 19:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:26:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.59] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2001 19:26:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:26:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons Message-ID: <95urth+enpl@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1244 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.190 From: "Jerry " Okay I have to ask, do you still have that Kirby FF page you bought? If you do you should put a scan of the page on the file section for the Kirby fans to see! --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., GaryB98294@a... wrote: > I first went to the 1969 NYCon and had some great experiences. During a > pre-Con visit with Dick Giordano DC, I ran into Al Williamson, who showed me > around for the rest of the day. He turned in a job for one of DC's horror > books that afternoon and we had lunch with Giordano, Neal Adams and Frank > Robbins. Boy, some of the stories I heard at THAT lunch. What a great time. > It was my photo of that Con's banquet honoring Hal Foster that Bill > Schelly used in his Golden Age of Fandom book. On the way to the banquet, I > got in an elevator and right behind me steps Foster and Gil Kane, who > introduced Foster to the audience. Both signed books for me and were very > kind. When I told Foster I lived in Miami, he invited me to visit him some > day in his Florida home. I never made it, sad to say. > I also bought two pages of Adams originals for $20 each and a Kirby FF > page for $30. > It was a wonderful con. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 08 11:28:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 19:28:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1359 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 19:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 19:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:28:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.59] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2001 19:28:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:28:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: HMO Killed GB Love? Message-ID: <95us1i+enok@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102080110.TAA29243@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 708 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.190 From: "Jerry " Now you know why it was so popular to feed christians to the Lions in Rome. -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. > > robert beerbohm From jhprice@cox-internet.com Thu Feb 08 11:56:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jhprice@cox-internet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 19:56:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 96074 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 19:55:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 19:55:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europa.cox-internet.com) (208.180.118.40) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:55:54 -0000 Received: from price ([208.180.177.129]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010208195428.MQEJ7597.europa@price> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:54:28 -0600 Message-ID: <002601c09208$f58fa780$81b1b4d0@tcac.net> To: References: <95us1i+enok@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:54:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "John Price" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, Bush is against the Bill of Rights bill basically because it will encourage lawyers filing massive sized lawsuits. As someone who is in a medical field, although as a chiropractor I've never been sued, I can see the potential mess that frivalous lawsuits would cause. And you know what would be the result - huge increases in the cost of medical insurance. SO think it through before you blast him based upon scant knowledge of the situation. Let them redesign the bill, so that it wont fuel the cost of medical care down the road, ok? jp > I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. > > robert beerbohm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artistprofile@yahoo.com Thu Feb 08 12:21:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: artistprofile@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 20:21:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 32641 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 20:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 20:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 20:21:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: artistprofile@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.68] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2001 20:21:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:21:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fanzine Pro Index Message-ID: <95uv4h+m40o@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2053 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.111.65.239 From: artistprofile@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/8/01 12:06:02 PM, artistprofile@y... writes: > > >Good Day fellow Fanziners > > > >It has been my observation over the years that some of the most > >informative Articles/Bios on various Comic Pros is stuck away in the > >1000's of obscure Fanzines out there. To this end I've just created > >a > >"Fanzine Pro Index" Database file for this egroup. > > > >Currently I just have this setup with a database field outline and > >only one database record, to serve as an example. I will start > >digging out all my old/new Fanzines and adding more records, but I > >wanted to first receive some feedback on this. Are the Fields > >adequate, or should something be added/deleted? Is anyone else out > >there going to contribute to this? Let me know. > > > >Just click on "Database" to view this Record format. > > > >Thanks > >A.P. > > A.P. (?), > > The word ''Database'' is not a hyperlink on my server, so please supply the > web site URL. > > This is an amirable undertaining, and I'm willing to share the tons of info I > have on zines carrying bios of comics people, drawn from the Who's Who of > 20th Century American Comic Books. If you format is not too different from > mine, I can transcribe my data. It may not contain data for some of your > fields, but it would identify where the biographical material appeared. My > site is: http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ > > There may be other such databases. I'm sure APA-I (the comics indexing APA) > has carried such listings over the years. You'd have to check with the > individual(s) who created them for permissions. Ray Bottorff, who is on this > list, is the coordinator/central mailer of APA-I and can probably direct you > to the current Librarian of APA-I. > > Good luck. > > Bestest, > > Jerry Mr. Bails Thank you for the information and suggestions. The 'Database' that I'm referring to is the one that is already setup with this particular egroup. A.P. From nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca Thu Feb 08 12:26:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 20:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 62843 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 20:26:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 20:26:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xmail.gov.ns.ca) (198.166.215.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 20:26:34 -0000 Received: from mail.gov.ns.ca ([198.166.84.6]) by xmail.gov.ns.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:26:32 -0400 Received: from userid.fox.nstn.ca ([10.1.25.106]) by mail.gov.ns.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:26:32 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010208162133.00ac8d80@fox.nstn.ca> X-Sender: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:25:16 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking for old fanzines In-Reply-To: <95uv4h+m40o@eGroups.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Return-Path: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca From: Bev Keddy Hi, everyone. I have never had much exposure to traditional fandom, mostly reading the "prozines" like TCJ, CBG, and so on. Are those fanzines on topic for this list? Also, I have always wanted to read some of these old zines and am wondering if there are any kicking around that people don't want any more. They have to be cheap, though: I just moved into a house and it took most of my money to get here. Have a good one, everybody. Bev From GaryB98294@aol.com Thu Feb 08 12:39:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 20:39:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 9048 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 20:39:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 20:39:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 21:40:12 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.96.fd03bde (5710) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from web45.aolmail.aol.com (web45.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.6]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:39:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:39:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <96.fd03bde.27b45de6@aol.com> From: GaryB98294@aol.com I don't have the original (damn it), but I think I have a copy of it. I'll look and add it to the group. My problem is that I just moved (well, three months ago, but when the election hit, my world stopped) and I'm still going through countless boxes. From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 12:56:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 20:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 33261 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 20:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 20:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 21:57:23 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010208205613.BRWH2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:56:13 -0800 Message-ID: <3A83074F.310DA890@home.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:53:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ditko/Kirby Pin-Ups From 1964 NY Con (Was Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons) References: <96.fd03bde.27b45de6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell GaryB98294@aol.com wrote: > I don't have the original (damn it), but I think I have a copy of it. > I'll look and add it to the group. Here's a link to the 1964 New York City Convention Page on my DITKO LOOKED UP Site. It has both of "Ditko's" contributions... http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko/artist/arnycon.html And here's the Kirby THOR contribution, now in the FILES section... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/nythor.jpg SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 13:12:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 21:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 95333 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 21:12:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 21:12:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 21:12:29 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010208211202.MGRT844.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:12:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3A830B18.D1B65B09@home.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:09:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Will Schelly's article on the 1964 New York City Comic Convention re-inforces the unknown (or it WAS to me) history of comic book pros and their contributions to the earlier comic book fanzines. I was trying to hunt down Ditko's entries for the fanzines INCOGNITO #3 (Sep '65) and SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS #2, (Apr '65). Out of nowhere, Will Schelly e-mailed me, after seeing my DITKO LOOKED UP site. He wanted to get a 300dpi copy of the picture of Steve in his studio that resides on the front of the web-site, for potential publication in ALTER EGO. I asked him about those two 'zines, and he said he had produced both. What was TRULY interesting was that he had received a Dr. Strange Pin-Up from Ditko to publish in SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS #2. O.K., so far fine, but then Will tells me he TRACED the original Ditko drawing onto a mimeograph stencil for the issue and then a ditto master for INCOGNITO #3. SO, technically, you could argue Schelly 're-inked' the piece! When Dave Schwartz sent me the pin-ups from the N.Y. Con, they looked a little wonky for Ditko, but perhaps he had just dashed them off. And while reading Will Schelly's article in the latest issue of ALTER EGO on the N.Y. Con, I notice they have that Spider-Man pin-up reprinted. The box beside it says "Steve Ditko donated a Spider-Man drawing which later became this first cover of the 1964 Comicon Booklet; but since the program book was printed via spirit-duplicator, con organizer Bernie Bubnis had to TRACE (my emphasis) Ditko's illo onto a ditto master". !!! Put down Bernie Bubnis as one of the first credited inkers of Ditko! Turns out Bernie traced the Dr. Strange drawing, as well. The real question is how many contributions of pros were actually TRACINGS of the original drawings, and not originals? I had never heard of this until this year (not that I owned a million mid-'60s fanzines). Any comments? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From mluebker@home.com Thu Feb 08 13:40:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mluebker@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 21:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 58814 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 21:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 21:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.rdc1.il.home.com) (24.2.1.76) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 21:39:55 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.4.160.79]) by mail1.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010208213953.HLUA7051.mail1.rdc1.il.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:39:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3A8312A0.71FF04CA@home.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:41:52 -0500 Organization: Studio 1050 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? References: <981662397.293.80364.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Luebker & Kathleen Fairfax Robert Beerbohm I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash. I'm amazed at how you can somehow turn a tragedy and injustice that was the responsibility of an HMO into something to hang around GWB's neck. No one wants to see people who need medical treatments being denied those treatments by the HMO bean counters--heck, I've had repeated difficulties over the last few years just getting the treatment my doctors have prescribed for my hiatal hernia--but I think there's plenty of room to discuss what the best way might be to actually DO that would be. Bush's vision of what it should be is different than the one that the Democrats and Sen. McCain offered up the other day. The president wants an administrative process that would minimize the number of potential lawsuits (which too often are brought by the heirs of a person who died waiting for their day in court) and try to find quicker solutions to settle disputes between patients and HMOs. Other politicians (and the lobbyists that support them--the Trial Lawyers Association, among others) prefer that lawsuits be among the first remedies available to settle such disputes. Obviously the former is favored by the insurance industry and the latter by trial lawyers, and hopefully there's a solution that will work for the general public someplace in between. Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues like these are more likely to be resolved by people talking them through, not via the sort of anger and blaming that too often passes for political discourse these days. There IS more than one legitimate point of view. -- Regards, Mark Luebker On AIM: mluebker From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Feb 08 13:53:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 21:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 94458 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 22:54:09 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.fb.1162d5d0 (4264) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:52:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:52:57 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/01 4:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > The real question is how many contributions of pros were actually TRACINGS > of the original drawings, and not originals? > I had never heard of this until this year (not that I owned a million > mid-'60s fanzines). > well, this depends on your defination. If you consider inkers tracers, then most comic book work is traced. but virtually all ditto and mimeo artwork was 'traced" onto masters. The only Pro I ever heard of who worked on ditto masters was Robert Crumb. This is no secret, I'd say most of us folks knew that the sketches were re-inked for mimeo and ditto zines. That's why "artzines" were done xerox or photo-offset Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Feb 08 13:55:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 21:55:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32166 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 21:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 21:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 21:55:07 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.28.10f08317 (4264) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:54:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <28.10f08317.27b46fa4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:54:44 EST Subject: Joe Brantacelli To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the misspelling of Joe Brantacelli; but I heard an interview with him on public radio today, he is writing for an internet travel magazine. No doubt, if one could spell his name correctly, one could do a web-search and find him. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 14:37:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 22:37:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 88055 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 22:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 22:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:38:03 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31731 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:36:53 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.157] (ppp16.netimaging.com [208.136.132.157]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA31646 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:36:51 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082236.QAA31646@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 16:35:22 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm > Robert, > Bush is against the Bill of Rights bill basically because it will >encourage lawyers filing massive sized lawsuits. As someone who is in a >medical field, although as a chiropractor I've never been sued, I can see >the potential mess that frivalous lawsuits would cause. And you know what >would be the result - huge increases in the cost of medical insurance. SO >think it through before you blast him based upon scant knowledge of the >situation. Let them redesign the bill, so that it wont fuel the cost of >medical care down the road, ok? > jp "Scant?" i say to thee, "Bullshit" Right now HMOs can do what ever the hell it is they want to - and no one can touch them. sure, HMOs and the pharmacuetical companies have rediced costs because their lawyer bills are so low bob beerbohm From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 14:38:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 22:38:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16860 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 22:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 22:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:39:21 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01493 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:38:15 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.157] (ppp16.netimaging.com [208.136.132.157]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01408 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:38:14 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082238.QAA01408@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 16:36:45 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >I'm amazed at how you can somehow turn a tragedy and injustice that was >the responsibility of an HMO into something to hang around GWB's neck. did you READ Jim's eulogy to GB Love in the new CBG? From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 14:42:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 22:42:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 64180 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 22:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 22:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 22:42:48 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05093 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:42:47 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.157] (ppp16.netimaging.com [208.136.132.157]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04927 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:42:45 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082242.QAA04927@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zi Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 16:41:16 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Put down Bernie Bubnis as one of the first credited inkers of Ditko! > Turns out Bernie traced the Dr. Strange drawing, as well. > The real question is how many contributions of pros were actually TRACINGS >of the original drawings, and not originals? > I had never heard of this until this year (not that I owned a million >mid-'60s fanzines). > Any comments? > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. >From my perspective, almost EVERY comic bookpage and cover out there is "traced" by some one else - they call it "inking" -:) bob From thecliffguy@aol.com Thu Feb 08 14:49:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 22:49:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 82228 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 22:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 22:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:50:48 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.be.fc7c15d (17532) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:37 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 From: thecliffguy@aol.com Well spoken/written, Mark! ~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, mluebker@home.com writes: << Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues like these are more likely to be resolved by people talking them through, not via the sort of anger and blaming that too often passes for political discourse these days. There IS more than one legitimate point of view. >> From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:01:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:01:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 78346 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:01:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:01:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:01:31 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14341 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:01:30 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.157] (ppp16.netimaging.com [208.136.132.157]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14255 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:01:28 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082301.RAA14255@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 16:59:59 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Well spoken/written, Mark! > >~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > >In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, >mluebker@home.com >writes: > ><< Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues like these are more likely >to be resolved by people talking them through, not via the sort of anger and >blaming that too often passes for political discourse these days. > > There IS more than one legitimate point of view. >> No doubt about it, well written, always well written - but that don't mean squat when it comes to Bush having to pay back his corporate sponsors by (for now) stalling long over due legislation to help PEOPLE. Same goes for those ya-hoos in Congress who kept stalling any Congressional tobacco look-sees for all those decades. Mark, you do not know anything about me. I have never written I dislike Bush. But you keep up with blindly defending insurance companies and the pharmacutical companies. Disguise it in your pseudo-legal speak as much as you wish. More power to you. Fact remains: HMOs denied GB Love rehab care he needed - and now he is dead. Fact remains: GB is fronting for his corp sponsors. twist my words all you want bob beerbohm From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:06:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 64844 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:07:04 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ea.111e02f0 (4563) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:05:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:05:53 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fanzine Pro Index To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:25:24 PM, artistprofile@yahoo.com writes: >Mr. Bails > >Thank you for the information and suggestions. The 'Database' that >I'm referring to is the one that is already setup with this particular > >egroup. > >A.P. > I still need the URL. I'm not on Yahoo and the one (or few?) times the URL was posted I'm afraid I missed it. Bestest, Jerry From thecliffguy@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:09:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 75130 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:09:55 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.68.be1d7e4 (17532) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:09:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <68.be1d7e4.27b48138@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:09:44 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 From: thecliffguy@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:04:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << Fact remains: GB is fronting for his corp sponsors. >> Fact? Show my where this has been proven. Facts have to be proveable. Just because YOU call it a fact, don't make it so. Nice try. ~Walt :) From escape@texhoma.net Thu Feb 08 15:11:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:11:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 28604 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.cableone.net) (24.116.0.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:11:13 -0000 Received: from [24.116.100.108] ([24.116.100.108]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:11:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:10:20 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fanzine Pro Index Return-Path: escape@texhoma.net From: escape@texhoma.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I still need the URL. I'm not on Yahoo and the one (or few?) times the URL >was posted I'm afraid I missed it. Jerry Here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/database [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 15:16:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 35713 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:16:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:16:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:17:34 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010208231623.HLQT2929.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:16:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3A83281B.3331689A@home.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:13:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret History Of Artist...) References: <200102082242.QAA04927@www.teknetwork.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >From my perspective, almost EVERY comic bookpage and cover out there is > "traced" by some one else - they call it "inking" -:) 1) Let's leave Vince Colletta out of this, or we'll upset Lyle! > << Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues like these are more likely > to be resolved by people talking them through >> 2) But please, everyone, let's not resolve it on this list! 3) QUESTAR #1 ('78) : Fanzine? Prozine? Magazine? I received it in the mail today, and it has a number of interesting items. The mag. is published by Bill Wilson, he of THE COLLECTOR fame. The Star Wars cover presages a story inside by our own JIM VAN HISE, with pics of Jim and Mark Hamill from the 1976 Worldcon, well before the movie's release. There's also an article on Star Wars drawing comparisons between Star Wars and Kirby's Fourth World (is this the first article to do so?) The best part of the magazine for me are the two illustrated stories. The second story, "Rogg!" with script and art by Gene Day and his friend on letters, Dave Sim! The first story is "Cosage", a 6-page B&W wonder by Steve Ditko! The story Ditko did for QUESTAR #2 was excellent, so I look forward to this one. For those who trace such things, QUESTAR #2 has a letter about Ditko's story in Issue #1 from ROBIN SNYDER (the first time I've ever heard of Robin connecting to anything Ditko). All in very nice condition for only $6 U.S.! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:21:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:21:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 7899 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:23:01 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29281 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:21:56 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29189 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:21:54 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082321.RAA29189@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:20:25 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/8/01 3:04:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, >beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > ><< Fact remains: GB is fronting for his corp sponsors. >> > >Fact? Show my where this has been proven. Facts have to be proveable. >Just >because YOU call it a fact, don't make it so. Nice try. > >~Walt:) if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe it just is a duck From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:23:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10727 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:23:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:23:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:24:09 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29895 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:23:03 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29810 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:23:02 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082323.RAA29810@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:21:33 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Robert Beerbohm wrote: >> >From my perspective, almost EVERY comic bookpage and cover out there is >> "traced" by some one else - they call it "inking" -:) > >1) Let's leave Vince Colletta out of this, or we'll upset Lyle! > >> << Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues like these are more likely >> to be resolved by people talking them through >> > >2) But please, everyone, let's not resolve it on this list! But VC is my favorite tracer of pencils -:) bob From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:24:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:24:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14760 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:24:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:24:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:24:52 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30986 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:24:51 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA30901 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:24:50 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082324.RAA30901@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:23:21 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm > I received it in the mail today, and it has a number of interesting items. > The mag. is published by Bill Wilson, he of THE COLLECTOR fame. The Star >Wars cover presages a story inside by our own JIM VAN HISE, with pics of Jim >and Mark Hamill from the 1976 Worldcon, well before the movie's release. >There's >also an article on Star Wars drawing comparisons between Star Wars and >Kirby's >Fourth World (is this the first article to do so?) what might be interesting to note is the first Star Wars slide show of that then upcomign flick was at the 1976 San Diego comicon. The Lucas guys were running around trying to sell "life time" button rights to SW for $50K no takers there bob From thecliffguy@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:34:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:34:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 80958 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:34:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:34:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:34:23 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.58.6fac7a5 (3973) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:34:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <58.6fac7a5.27b486e9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:34:01 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 From: thecliffguy@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:27:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe it just is a duck >> That's brilliant. So, if it sounds like a misinformed liberal, talks/writes like a misinformed liberal, it just might be a misinformed liberal. ~Walt :) From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:36:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:36:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 87258 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.4) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:36:52 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.c8.108c7b17 (4219) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:36:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:36:38 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:23:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << But VC is my favorite tracer of pencils -:) >> Ah, Vince Coletta. I think I saw him at a convention once with his seeing-eye dog. Back when Bret Blevins was working for Marvel (he won't now) he drew a comic (one of the movie adaptations, I think) and as usual Marvel was in a big hurry to get it. Bret explained to his editor that to meet their accelerated deadline he could only do simple pencils, not tight pencils. Those pencils were approved by the editor and passed on to the inker, Vince Colletta. Colletta turned in one of his worst jobs ever, and when he was rightly confronted over the substandard work, he blamed it on Bret. Marvel had to pay someone else to re-ink it and deducted a thousand dollars from Bret's payment for the book. And people wonder why comic artists get bitter.--Jim Van Hise From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:38:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:38:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 98641 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.40.72f2171 (4219) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:38:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <40.72f2171.27b487e2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:38:10 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:28:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << what might be interesting to note is the first Star Wars slide show of that then upcomign flick was at the 1976 San Diego comicon. The Lucas guys were running around trying to sell "life time" button rights to SW for $50K no takers there bob >> It also produced the first Star Wars collectible--a poster drawn by Howard Chaykin. I still have mine, signed by Mark Hamill.--Jim Van Hise From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:41:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:41:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 56791 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:41:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:41:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:41:49 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13211 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:41:48 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13126 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:41:46 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082341.RAA13126@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:40:17 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/8/01 3:27:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, >beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > ><< if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe it > just is a duck >> > >That's brilliant. So, if it sounds like a misinformed liberal, talks/writes >like a misinformed liberal, it just might be a misinformed liberal. > >~Walt:) if you like From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:43:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:43:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 88210 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:43:33 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14703 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:43:32 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14618 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:43:30 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082343.RAA14618@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:42:01 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/8/01 3:23:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, >beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > ><< But VC is my favorite tracer of pencils -:) >> > >Ah, Vince Coletta. I think I saw him at a convention once with his >seeing-eye >dog. >Back when Bret Blevins was working for Marvel (he won't now) he drew a comic >(one of the movie adaptations, I think) and as usual Marvel was in a big >hurry to get it. Bret explained to his editor that to meet their accelerated >deadline he could only do simple pencils, not tight pencils. Those pencils >were approved by the editor and passed on to the inker, Vince Colletta. >Colletta turned in one of his worst jobs ever, and when he was rightly >confronted over the substandard work, he blamed it on Bret. Marvel had to >pay >someone else to re-ink it and deducted a thousand dollars from Bret's >payment >for the book. And people wonder why comic artists get bitter.--Jim Van Hise I remember that first Bret Blevins job - some GN I think it was? I wonder how many other pencilers VC turned into crazed art guys? bob From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 15:45:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:45:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 92771 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 23:45:19 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16299 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:45:18 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16214 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:45:17 -0600 Message-Id: <200102082345.RAA16214@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:43:48 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >It also produced the first Star Wars collectible--a poster drawn by Howard >Chaykin. I still have mine, signed by Mark Hamill.--Jim Van Hise Mine got destroyed along with 90% of my fanzine collection in the 1986 flooding of Best of two Worlds' warehouse - all kinds of stuff. SD Comicons sure were fun in the earlier incarnations bob From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:52:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:52:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12268 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:52:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:52:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:53:59 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.4d.73037f5 (4311) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:52:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4d.73037f5.27b48b4f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:52:47 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 4:24:37 PM, ditko37@home.com writes: > The real question is how many contributions of pros were actually TRACINGS >of the original drawings, and not originals? > I had never heard of this until this year (not that I owned a million >mid-'60s fanzines). > Any comments? Ditto (spirit duplicators) and memeograph both required the faned to trace a drawing onto a master or stencil. There was at least one exception. Near the end of my career with memeo (circa mid-60s), I used an electric stencil machine to cut a stencil from original art, so that I could faithfully reproduce items from my collection of original art. I was already switching over to photo-offset, but an electric stencil was the next best thing. One put a photostat of the art next to the special stencil and placed them on a rotating drum, and the process burned away the wax in a near-perfect replica of the line drawing. I think I also used an early themofax machine (which originally used heat) to do the same with a ditto master once or twice. However, most of what I saw reproduced in the ditto and memeo fanzines of the 60s was hand-drawn (traced) on the appropriate medium. Even the photo-offset drawings in fanzines may have required the faned to ink the piece. For example, in Alter Ego #4, the first photo-offset comics fanzine, I did an inked overlay of a pencil sketch by Jack Kirby of the Thing. I'm sure other faneds did something similar if they were trying to reproduce a pencil sketch. Naturally, I left the original sketch unscathed. Bestest, Jerry Bails From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 08 15:58:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 8 Feb 2001 23:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 48617 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 23:58:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2001 23:58:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:59:17 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.bd.b9180e2 (4219) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:58:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:58:00 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 3:51:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: << ><< if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe it > just is a duck >> > >That's brilliant. So, if it sounds like a misinformed liberal, talks/writes >like a misinformed liberal, it just might be a misinformed liberal. >> One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. Who's pulling his strings will be obvious. While both parties have unhealthy ties to Corporate America, the Republicans are both brazan and unappologetic about it. Just watch. From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 16:21:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 00:21:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22900 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 00:21:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 00:21:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 01:22:49 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.be.fcb5c96 (4210) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:21:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:21:37 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 6:38:04 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: >Ah, Vince Coletta. I think I saw him at a convention once with his seeing-eye > >dog. >Back when Bret Blevins was working for Marvel (he won't now) he drew a >comic >(one of the movie adaptations, I think) and as usual Marvel was in a big > >hurry to get it. Bret explained to his editor that to meet their accelerated > >deadline he could only do simple pencils, not tight pencils. Those pencils > >were approved by the editor and passed on to the inker, Vince Colletta. > >Colletta turned in one of his worst jobs ever, and when he was rightly > >confronted over the substandard work, he blamed it on Bret. Marvel had >to pay >someone else to re-ink it and deducted a thousand dollars from Bret's payment > >for the book. And people wonder why comic artists get bitter.--Jim Van >Hise I'm not fan of Colletta's inking, but I have a problem with this example. I'd need to know if Colletta was asked and paid to FINISH the art or just INK. There's a difference. Since Brett did not do finished pencils in this instance, it seems that his rate should've been reduced, unless there is more to the story. I must say that while I am glad to see that pencillers take more pride in their work today than 50 years ago, I think that they yield up more than a little when they agree at the outset to be part of an assemblyline. If the inking job is important to them, they have two options, both require that they be paid for the entire art job or refuse the assignment. Option (1) Do the inking themselves; (2) Pay an inker of their own choice. If a penciller agrees to work on an assemblyline, he is losing his say over the completed art. I fail to see how Brett in this instance has any complaint that can be leveled at the inker he was assigned. The nature of Colletta's work was out there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. Next case. Bestest, Jerry From thecliffguy@aol.com Thu Feb 08 16:51:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 00:51:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 385 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 00:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 00:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 01:52:49 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.67.f80f69b (25307) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:51:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <67.f80f69b.27b49917@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:51:35 EST Subject: Great List! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 From: thecliffguy@aol.com Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying this list (even with the political OTs)! This list is unique in that it offers a complement to the other list(s) that I'm on. So, thank you for starting this list, and I look forward to hearing more of your stories & experiences! Best, Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) From mluebker@home.com Thu Feb 08 16:58:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mluebker@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 00:58:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17898 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 00:58:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 00:58:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 00:58:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mluebker@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.126] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 00:58:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:58:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Message-ID: <95vfc0+p8g5@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3085 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.4.160.79 From: "Mark Luebker" Jim Van Hise wrote: > One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. > Who's pulling his strings will be obvious. I'm for actually waiting to see whether such a thing does, in fact, become obvious before hanging it around the president's neck. While it MAY turn out to be the case, so far I can't see how ANYTHING Bush has done (or not done) can be blamed for the untimely death of ANYONE who's been denied treatment by an HMO. After all, he's been governor of Texas for the past six years, and someone else has been sitting in the Oval Office, using the bully pulpit that comes with it to set priorities and doing whatever HE deemed to be important for the last eight. So yeah, it's easy enough to predict what you think a guy MIGHT do, especially if politically, you see him as the enemy. And I'm sure if a person is willing to look hard enough (and perhaps selectively enough) a case to support whatever claim you want to make against ANY politician can eventually be made. But saying that you think Bush will reveal himself to be in the pocket of certain corporate interests and having him actually demonstrate that to be the case are still two different things. And while you're certainly entitled to believe the former, I don't think we've seen anything to indicate the latter. So whatever reasons anyone might want to attribute to Bush not embracing the current version of the Patients' Bill of Rights, the one he's given is that he doesn't want patients suing HMOs to be the FIRST means of resolving a dispute, and that seems reasonable enough to me. Lawsuits take time and they invariably line the pockets of the trial attorneys, which--in addition to being of little help to a patient who needs treatment NOW and may well be dead by the time such a case is resolved--drives the overall cost of health care up, and contributes directly to the unfortunate mindset of the bean-counters who deny patients needed treatments because of their mania to keep costs down. What we really need is a binding administrative method of resolving these disputes in a timely and objective manner, without unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers into it. > While both parties have unhealthy ties to Corporate America, the Republicans are both brazan and unappologetic about it. Just watch. I WILL watch, you can count on it! After being a Democrat for most of my adult life (and supporting Clinton in both 1992 and 1996), I walked away from the Democrats a few years ago because they no longer seemed to be representing anyone's interests but their own and that trying to accomplish the things that I'd thought they stood for had taken a back seat to maintaining their grip on power. (And as for brazen and apologetic, well, do I have to even GO there?) So you can be sure that if I see the Republicans saying one thing and doing another, I'll be turning my back on them just as fast. (Although Heaven only knows where I go then!) But meanwhile, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. -- Regards, Mark Luebker From mluebker@home.com Thu Feb 08 17:05:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mluebker@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 01:05:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 17753 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 01:05:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 01:05:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 01:05:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mluebker@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 01:05:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 01:05:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Great List! Message-ID: <95vfog+m7t9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <67.f80f69b.27b49917@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 843 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.4.160.79 From: "Mark Luebker" Walt Parrish wrote: > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying this list (even with > the political OTs)! This list is unique in that it offers a > complement to the other list(s) that I'm on. I'm enjoying it too, but I'd like to remind any and all who might be interested in on-going off-topic discussions that there IS a list that exists for specifically that purpose, oddly enough known as the Off-Topic List. We're always happy to have anyone with an opinion, a quick wit, or just an inclination to make small talk to join us there. The list seems to have taken a bit of a tilt to the right in the last couple of months, so we probably could use some articulate defenders of the liberal point of view to join the fray! Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a note and I'll get you signed up! -- Regards, Mark Luebker From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 17:24:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 01:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 64546 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 01:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 01:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 02:25:50 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010209012440.DOZA17917.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:24:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3A83469F.701139A3@home.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:23:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: More On Tracings (Was Re: [cbzines] Re: Great List!) References: <95vfog+m7t9@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Mark Luebker wrote: > I'm enjoying it too, but I'd like to remind any and all who might be > interested in on-going off-topic discussions that there IS a list > that exists for specifically that purpose, oddly enough known as the > Off-Topic List. Physician, heal thyself, Mark. ;) > We're always happy to have anyone with an opinion, a quick wit Of course, this rules Mark out. :p That's what you get for bringing politics onto my list! As IF Bush's "faith-based" crap isn't just the tip of the iceberg of the Rep.s "representing anyone's interests but their own"... Dooow! Now you've got me started...and I'm an objective Canadian! Can't someone start a Yank Rhetoric list? And welcome, Mark. As long as you don't drag politics onto this list, I would be forced to hurt you. ;) Anyone know of any OTHER Ditko contributions to fanzines that were TRACED? Like his MR. A. illos of the late '60s, or was that all corrected in fanzines by that point? I wonder if every artist received back their original drawings? I wonder how many asked? I have an interesting Ditko story about that coming up in my next DITKO LOOKED UPdate. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 08 17:38:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 01:38:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 97991 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 01:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 01:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 01:38:14 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.6e.79f0a3c (4206) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:38:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6e.79f0a3c.27b4a401@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:38:09 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 4:25:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, JerryBails@aol.com writes: << The nature of Colletta's work was out there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. >> This was during Bret's early months with Marvel when he had no say over who he did or didn't want inking him. The new guy generally doesn't. Ultimately Bret was able to insist that he be allowed to ink his own work or else approve the inker. And if Colletta had any problems with the work given him, why didn't he complain to the editor first instead of blaming the penciller later? It was believed that during Colletta's last years at Marvel that the only reason he got any work was because he was friends with Jim Shooter. No artist wanted Colletta inking their work, which is why he'd be given jobs inking work on newcomers. Colletta was notorious for simplifying the art given him so that he didn't have to spend any more time inking it than necessary. The Jack Kirby Collector has printed original Kirby pencils and the final inked pages by Colletta to show how Vince simplified backgrounds or redrew things to make his job easier. -- JVH From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 19:14:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 52887 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 04:15:41 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08297 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:14:35 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.55] (fre-45.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.55]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA08212 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:14:33 -0600 Message-Id: <200102090314.VAA08212@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 21:13:04 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Jim Van Hise wrote: > >> One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. >> Who's pulling his strings will be obvious. > >I'm for actually waiting to see whether such a thing does, in >fact, become obvious before hanging it around the president's neck. > >While it MAY turn out to be the case, so far I can't see how ANYTHING >Bush has done (or not done) can be blamed for the untimely death of >ANYONE who's been denied treatment by an HMO. Sorry guys, i was going to walk away from this as per usual there ends up being too many words, but this is what i wrote, "I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe himself as a good christian? Hogwash." No where did I blame dubya for GB's death. Jeeeeeez-us H Keeee-rist. This is where we part being on a plane of communication, I am afraid. You reach - as you usually do - to the proverbial straw blowing in the wind trying to tie something together that the party you seek to disect & disassemble in your own mind did not write. If i meant to write, "Selected President George W Bush is directly to blame for the death by HMO indifference of Gordon B. Love", well, then, by golly, that is exactly what I would have written. But guess what, I didn't. drum roll - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -But let's jump to conclusions every time - and mold what we want to into whatever we want to when we want to. Less than 25 % of potential American voters voted for Bush. Somewhat the same number voted for that other guy Gore. The boy does not have a mandate to deny what most Americans want to see happen. Some people might disagree. Ka-peeeesh? robert beerbohm, one of those "ill-informed" liberal minded persons Mark, you had this thought, "What we really need is a binding administrative method of resolving these disputes in a timely and objective manner, without unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers into it. " ie net result: don't be able to sue an HMO with the power of your life in their hands? From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Feb 08 19:18:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 63347 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9903.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 03:18:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20010209031844.21322.qmail@web9903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.94] by web9903.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:18:44 PST Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green Just before leaving office Clinton vetoed a bill that would have provided lower cost perscriptions for senior citizens. Do you inferr from that that Clinton is opposed to senoirs, or just against medical reform? Or, just maybe he was holding out for something that actualy may be effective? Of course in Willy's case he was just looking for a payoff or a BJ!- -- thecliffguy@aol.com wrote: > Well spoken/written, Mark! > > ~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > > In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific > Standard Time, mluebker@home.com > writes: > > << Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues > like these are more likely > to be resolved by people talking them through, not > via the sort of anger and > blaming that too often passes for political > discourse these days. > > There IS more than one legitimate point of view. >> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Feb 08 19:28:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:28:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 87608 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:28:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:28:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9901.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 04:29:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20010209032807.10827.qmail@web9901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.194.94] by web9901.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:28:07 PST Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:28:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200102082301.RAA14255@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: gordon green In truth, as do ALL politicians! We have the best government money can buy! Clinton had to "pay back" the Chineese, why do you think he gave them missle guidence technology over the warnings of the Defense Department? Your point is right on, just too narrowly aimed! As far as HMOs you are COMPLETELY correct! They DO need a bill that will give REAL rights to the patient! As far as G.B is concerned it is a TRAVESTY! I think we all are outraged by such behavior! In my own case, my HMO has stopped the approval on a drug that I've been taking for the past YEAR because it's too costly! ( Celebrex) It's not life or death, but it is perscribed and needed! HMO's must be controled, this is NOT a partisen issue! NUFF SAID,back to talking about zines! --- Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Well spoken/written, Mark! > > > >~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > > > >In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > >mluebker@home.com > >writes: > > > ><< Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues > like these are more likely > >to be resolved by people talking them through, not > via the sort of anger and > >blaming that too often passes for political > discourse these days. > > > > There IS more than one legitimate point of view. > >> > > > No doubt about it, well written, always well written > - but that don't > mean squat when it comes to Bush having to pay back > his corporate > sponsors by (for now) stalling long over due > legislation to help PEOPLE. > Same goes for those ya-hoos in Congress who kept > stalling any > Congressional tobacco look-sees for all those > decades. > > Mark, you do not know anything about me. I have > never written I dislike > Bush. But you keep up with blindly defending > insurance companies and the > pharmacutical companies. Disguise it in your > pseudo-legal speak as much > as you wish. More power to you. > > Fact remains: HMOs denied GB Love rehab care he > needed - and now he is > dead. > > Fact remains: GB is fronting for his corp sponsors. > > twist my words all you want > > > bob beerbohm > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Feb 08 19:30:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:30:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 66054 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 03:30:14 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.a7.b8fec7f (18409) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:30:07 EST Subject: Re: More On Tracings (Was Re: [cbzines] Re: Great List!) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/01 9:18:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > Anyone know of any OTHER Ditko contributions to fanzines that > were TRACED? Like his MR. A. illos of the late '60s, or was that all > corrected in fanzines by that point? > Corrected?????? Huh? Virtually all comic book artwork is inked or traced. Ditko never pencilled on stencils or masters -- so all of that was re-inked by someone. For work that is photo-offset or xeroxed, there was no-need to re-ink. Ditko had allready traced his pencils in ink for that. How to tell? Look at the fanzine - and determine how it was printed.... (if you don't know, we'll be glad to share how to tell ditto from xerox) Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 08 19:32:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:32:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 70945 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:32:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:32:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 03:32:10 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.11.f91bc67 (4399) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:32:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <11.f91bc67.27b4beb6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:32:06 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 7:20:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << Just before leaving office Clinton vetoed a bill that would have provided lower cost perscriptions for senior citizens. Do you inferr from that that Clinton is opposed to senoirs, or just against medical reform? Or, just maybe he was holding out for something that actualy may be effective? Of course in Willy's case he was just looking for a payoff or a BJ!- >> Like I said, both parties have unhealthy corporate ties. This is an example of the Democrats giving payback to the pharmaceutical corporations. From ltucker@rt66.com Thu Feb 08 19:38:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 03:38:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 85813 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 03:38:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 03:38:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 04:39:23 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm13.rt66.com [206.206.85.63]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA28147 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:38:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A836694.940820FA@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:40:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: TBG's, and Our Pal Vinnie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Just posted some THE BUYER'S GUIDE FOR COMIC FANDOM cover scans in the FILES section (and, apropos of recent conversation, #107 has a rather nice Bode' Tribute cover by Eric Vincent). Does anyone know the number of the last TBG that was pubbed, as well as the date of the first? Regarding My Man Vinnie, let's not forget that despite his many faults (and, yes, they were legion) he was undeniably instrumental in helping make THOR the smash it was, giving the strip a pleasing organic feel that it was to never see again, and he did a far better job inking the 4TH WORLD series than Mike Royer (a fine inker - but hamstrung by Jack's insistence on ditto-esque tracing of his pencils). --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From gpfoley@earthlink.net Thu Feb 08 20:04:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 04:04:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 32640 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 04:04:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.56] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 04:04:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:03:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ditko/Kirby Pin-Ups From 1964 NY Con (Was Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons) Message-ID: <95vq7d+eehb@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A83074F.310DA890@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1176 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.39.20.155 From: "Jerry " Thanks for posting them Blake! --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > GaryB98294@a... wrote: > > I don't have the original (damn it), but I think I have a copy of it. > > I'll look and add it to the group. > > Here's a link to the 1964 New York City Convention Page on my > DITKO LOOKED UP Site. It has both of "Ditko's" contributions... > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko/artist/arnycon.html > > And here's the Kirby THOR contribution, now in the FILES section... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/nythor.jpg > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Feb 08 20:05:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 04:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 75404 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 04:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 04:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 05:06:24 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.50.112d29bf (16489) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:05:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50.112d29bf.27b4c679@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:05:13 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 8:41:41 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/8/01 4:25:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, >JerryBails@aol.com writes: > ><< The nature of Colletta's work was out > there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta > > not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. > >>> > >This was during Bret's early months with Marvel when he had no say over >who >he did or didn't want inking him. The new guy generally doesn't. Ultimately > >Bret was able to insist that he be allowed to ink his own work or else > >approve the inker. And if Colletta had any problems with the work given >him, >why didn't he complain to the editor first instead of blaming the penciller > >later? It was believed that during Colletta's last years at Marvel that >the >only reason he got any work was because he was friends with Jim Shooter. >No >artist wanted Colletta inking their work, which is why he'd be given jobs > >inking work on newcomers. Colletta was notorious for simplifying the art > >given him so that he didn't have to spend any more time inking it than > >necessary. The Jack Kirby Collector has printed original Kirby pencils >and >the final inked pages by Colletta to show how Vince simplified backgrounds >or >redrew things to make his job easier. -- JVH I don't deny the validity of any of these observations, but Colletta wasn't the first nor last whose inking displeased pencillers. It has become popular sport to dis Colletta, when it was the system that created and maintained such assignments. Some editors would prefer less complicated backgrounds and since they saw the ''before and after'' shots, one wonders if they weren't entirely satisfied with what they were willing to pay for. Some artists, notably greats like Alex Toth and C.C. Beck, would probably give some of today's admittedly proficient illustrators a hard time because they don't simply their work. There is considerable difference of opinion about the nature of the craft -- enough that young artists could well afford to allow that it is not always the incompetence of an inker who destroys their masterpieces. Other minds set other goals and an artist relinquishes full say, especially when he agrees only to do rough pencils. Some pencillers are of the opinion that virtuoso work is best even when it detracts from the story. No matter how great an illustrator is, he must confront the fact that he is telling a story and his art will be reduced and colored, and that some editors, inkers and colorists are going to have their input, right or wrong. If he is new to the business, then he will have to accept less say over the final product until he establishes himself. The inker who is assigned to the story is not the culprit. I have the same problem with people who put the blame for a poorly run restaurant on the pathetic untrained, underpaid waitress. The fault lies with the management, not the hired help. If publishers and editors will willing to pay for something other than a slash-dash ink job, then they could get it. I wouldn't be at all surprised that even the lowiest of inkers couldn't do a much better job if they could afford to take more time. Asking an inker to do finished art on an inker's wage is what I found particularly unfair in your example. Even a poor hack disserves to be treated fairly, and this chiming in to dis Colletta at every opportunity just seems to be a popular fan pastime, which I find grossly unfair. Comics support a range of talents, some great, some good, some mediocre. Likewise, TV and movies support a range of talent, but I don't see fans booing hacneyed actors at every opportunity. Instead, they treat them like royality. That's going farther than I feel necessary. Some of the fawning actually embarrasses me, but I think we are being more than a little unfair singling out a poor working slob and repeating every penciller's whining complaint about his inker. The mature artist works to gain control of the process of producing his final product. It can be done with hitting on everybody's fall guy. As a matter of fact, Colletta must have pleased more than Jim Shooter to have run a shop with these talented guys: __BAKER, MATT __GIORDANO, DICK __KWESKIN, SAM and to have been art director at DC throughout the 1970s. Fan bonding doesn't require us to make hash out of anyone's career. Can't we stop beating on Colletta. He hasn't twitched in the last ten years of abuse. He's dead. Let him be. That's just my opinion. Bestest, Jerry From magilla445@aol.com Thu Feb 08 20:17:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 04:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 65477 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 04:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 04:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 05:18:29 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.13.1139650c (16785) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:17:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13.1139650c.27b4c94c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:17:16 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Great List! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 From: magilla445@aol.com Hi Blake! Sorry to be so long offering my congratulations on your great new list. I've been having a grand time reading the posts. Nice to see so many familiar names and buddies from other lists. On the subject of fanzines....I recently picked up a copy of The Buyer's Guide For Comic Fandom #467, October 29, 1982. Reading through the issue was like spending an evening with old friends. I hadn't seen an old issue of TBG for at least 15 years. If you compare the warmth of the issue with a current issue of CBG, it is enough to invoke tears. I certainly miss Alan Light, and his fannish approach to publishing. By the way, I heard a while back that Alan had passed away. Can anyone here confirm this? Fandom in general has changed considerably since those grand old days of the 70s and early 80s. Today, it is all business. There isn't much of the camaraderie among collectors, at least not like it used to be. Kind of sad, really. I am glad to see so many of the "old-timers" congregating here. I am anticipating great things from this list. My only hope is that it won't get too bogged down with heated political discussions, which tends to put a damper on good will...not to mention fun. Warmest regards........Ron Frantz FANDOM: Confidential http://members.aol.com/midguard20/Midguardindex.html From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Feb 08 20:26:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 04:26:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2178 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 04:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 04:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 04:26:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 04:26:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:26:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: DITKO PIC 2 Message-ID: <95vrh7+dplf@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 128 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.94 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I put a HS picture of Steve on file. Let it load, it's in bottom left. Awfuly big file though. How can it be made smaller? Gord From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 08 21:26:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 05:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 36960 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 05:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 05:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 05:26:34 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09397 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:26:33 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.152] (ppp11.netimaging.com [208.136.132.152]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09311 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:26:32 -0600 Message-Id: <200102090526.XAA09311@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 23:24:53 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >NUFF SAID,back to talking about zines! amen From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 21:28:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 05:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19393 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 05:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 05:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 05:28:52 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010209052845.MBFA17917.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:28:45 -0800 Message-ID: <3A837FD4.C8A7F194@home.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:27:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] DITKO PIC 2 References: <95vrh7+dplf@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > > I put a HS picture of Steve on file. Let it load, it's in bottom left. > Awfuly big file though. How can it be made smaller? It's done. I clipped out the picture. It's here in the FILES section... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ditko1943.gif It's been on Chris Harper's Ditko site since the dawn of time. Chris had the original Ditko site on the 'Net. It hasn't been updated in three years. He alledges it's from 1943, when Ditko was 16, which makes since, given that Ditko would have not been in high school in 1947. (And, as I've said, if someone doesn't have a memory saver program like Ulead Smart Saver, which can cut the bytes of a scan from 250,000 to 60,000 without killing the quality, please feel free to send me any scans above 150,000 bytes, and I'll reduce them) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Thu Feb 08 21:35:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 05:35:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 47865 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 05:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 05:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 06:36:41 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010209053530.MFGK17917.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:35:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3A838168.7CEA75B9@home.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:34:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fandom : Confidential (Was Re: [cbzines] Great List!) References: <13.1139650c.27b4c94c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell magilla445@aol.com wrote: > Hi Blake! > > Sorry to be so long offering my congratulations on your great new list. I've > been having a grand time reading the posts. Nice to see so many familiar > names and buddies from other lists. Heck, I'm also happy we have plenty of people NOT on our usual lists. By the way, Ron, did you get my private e-mail to you last week? For all of those who don't know Ron Frantz, he was the publisher/owner of ACE COMICS in the late '80s, and has recently written the great book on comic book fandom called "Fandom : Confidential". It's $14.95 and can be purchased directly from Ron. It has a Pete Morisi cover, introduction by Robert Sampson, and a cover blurb by Jerry Bails. Ron can really write, as shown in this great article he did exclusively for my DITKO LOOKED UP site, which contains written letters from Vin Sullivan, Pete Morisi, Alex Toth and Steve Ditko! It can be found here... http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko/artist/arskyfra.html SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From mluebker@home.com Fri Feb 09 04:59:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mluebker@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 12:59:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 47484 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 12:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 12:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 12:59:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mluebker@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.99] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 12:59:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:59:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Message-ID: <960pjv+avo6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102090314.VAA08212@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5086 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.4.160.79 From: "Mark Luebker" Robert Beerbohm wrote: > Sorry guys, i was going to walk away from this as per usual there > ends up being too many words, but this is what i wrote, > > "I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I > buy it, very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's > eulogy to GB Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for > necessary treatment riled my tail feathers and I am really > pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is > all of what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to > describe himself as a good christian? Hogwash." > > No where did I blame dubya for GB's death. Jeeeeeez-us H > Keeee-rist. Sorry if I misunderstood, Bob. I was inferring that your first paragraph was linked to your second, and was intended to either directly or indirectly blame GWB for the circumstances that denied GB Love the treatment he needed and, ultimately, led to his death. Certainly anyone who's had to wrestle with an HMO or insurance company to try to extract an appropriate treatment for someone they care about can understand your anger and frustration--my mother-in-law died of cancer while her family was enmeshed in just such a battle. (Because it was clearly terminal, the insurance company declined certain treatments that could have prolonged her life.) But it seemed to me that your anger WAS directed at Bush, whom you referred to as "our beloved selected new Prez," who you suggest is some kind of hypocrite for calling himself a Christian and not supporting the current version of the Patients Bill of Rights, and who you seem to imply is at least indirectly responsible for "all of what is wrong with America." If it's NOT Bush that has you so mad, the only other possibility I see is your having to drive 40 miles to get that issue of CBG, something that would be relatively trivial by comparison. > You reach - as you usually do - to the proverbial straw blowing in > the wind trying to tie something together that the party you seek > to disect & disassemble in your own mind did not write. Again, sorry if I read in a meaning that you hadn't intended. I reacted to what it SOUNDED like you meant, and while I'm aware that you and I view things from different places on the political spectrum, I don't think I was grasping at straws or inferring something that others didn't see as well. I didn't come to this list looking to discuss political issues (that, among other things, is what the Off-Topic list is for), but if someone else raises them and I don't agree with the opinions offered, I'm always happy to respond with my POV. > Less than 25 % of potential American voters voted for Bush. > Somewhat the same number voted for that other guy Gore. > The boy does not have a mandate to deny what most Americans > want to see happen. Some people might disagree. Ka-peeeesh? In raw numbers or in the percentage of the electorate who DID support him, Bush certainly has a greater "mandate" than did the last president, and the the margin or dimensions of a president's victory really has no bearing on whether he should exercise the full powers of the presidency and try to implement the promises he made and the agenda that he campaigned on. And Bush DID campaign on a patients' bill of rights, just not the one that a handful in Congress have offered up. > robert beerbohm, > one of those "ill-informed" liberal minded persons I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think "liberal persons" are "ill-informed"--to the contrary, listening to them and reading what they have to say helps ME become more informed about all of the various ideas and options that are out there. > >"What we really need is a binding administrative method > >of resolving these disputes in a timely and objective manner, > >without unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers > >into it. " > ie net result: don't be able to sue an HMO with the power of your > life in their hands? Not at all. And I'm not sure I was correct in calling it a "binding" process--I probably should have called it a required first attempt to settle things. The Bush proposal calls for having the administrative process FIRST, but still leaves the door open to a lawsuit afterward, if the dispute couldn't be settled via the (quicker) administrative process. But when time is of the essence, going IMMEDIATELY to a lawsuit (which can easily drag on for years and be delayed until long after the patient is dead and the question moot) seems counter-intuitive to me. Just how such a process would be implemented--who would decide, what sort of time-frame would be involved--will obviously be important, and make the difference between it being a legitimate way to resolve disputes quickly, and a sham designed to enable insuarance companies to simply delay lawsuits. But I need to see those details before I'm willing to make a final judgment. -- Regards, Mark Luebker From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 09 06:22:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 14:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 12613 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 14:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 14:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 14:22:37 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01520 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:22:36 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.53] (fre-43.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.53]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA01433 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:22:35 -0600 Message-Id: <200102091422.IAA01433@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 08:20:56 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm mark you chose to interpret what you pre-wanted to see - not what I wrote bob From nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca Fri Feb 09 06:31:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 14:31:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16824 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 14:31:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 14:31:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xmail.gov.ns.ca) (198.166.215.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 14:31:34 -0000 Received: from mail.gov.ns.ca ([198.166.84.6]) by xmail.gov.ns.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:33 -0400 Received: from userid.fox.nstn.ca ([10.1.25.106]) by mail.gov.ns.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010209102913.01b65ec0@fox.nstn.ca> X-Sender: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:30:04 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? In-Reply-To: <200102091422.IAA01433@www.teknetwork.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Return-Path: nstn1173@fox.nstn.ca From: Bev Keddy At 08:20 AM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote: >mark > >you chose to interpret what you pre-wanted to see - not what I wrote > >bob I'm trying to figure out what this thread has to do with fanzines. Can we get back to the focus of this mailing list? I suggest if you want to continue this conversation that you take it off line. Bev From buckyruckus@hotmail.com Fri Feb 09 06:34:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: buckyruckus@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 14:34:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 43120 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 14:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 14:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 14:34:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.133] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 14:34:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:34:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Martin Greim Message-ID: <960v4p+ue4m@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 778 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.146.58.31 From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com A while back, somebody mentioned Martin Greim, and how he's no longer involved much with comics or fandom, as I recall. This surprised me, since back in the day when I discovered fanzines (late '60s, early '70s), he seemed to be quite the fan. I'd heard he was plagued by vision problems that left him on the verge of becoming legally blind, but I drifted away from comics and fandom for several years myself shortly after, and never did hear what became of Marty. Is Marty alive and well? Is it true that he no longer collects comics or comic art? If so, was this a result of blindness? Most importantly, can anyone help with contact info? I'd like to drop him a line or two, and let him know how much I enjoyed his zine, COMIC CRUSADER, so long ago. Thanks, Bucky From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Feb 09 07:56:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 15:56:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2263 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 15:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 15:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 15:56:06 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.8.100baa68 (5708) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web31.aolmail.aol.com (web31.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.7]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:55:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:55:39 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin Greim To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <8.100baa68.27b56cfc@aol.com> From: srowecanoe@aol.com Bucky wrote (and ya know I wish you guys with fake names would tell us who you are - but I guess you might have a reason to not let us know who you are) << This surprised me, since back in the day when I discovered fanzines (late '60s, early '70s), he seemed to be quite the fan. I'd heard he was plagued by vision problems that left him on the verge of becoming legally blind, but I drifted away from comics and fandom for several years myself shortly after, and never did hear what became of Marty.>> If MLJ is out of fandom, it's because he became a pro, writing for Apple and Archie. Ya know what prodom does to people! Steven Rowe From thecliffguy@aol.com Fri Feb 09 08:05:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 16:05:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 78101 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 16:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 16:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r14.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.68) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 16:05:30 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ab.66d94b6 (25308) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:05:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:05:27 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: The Off-Topic List... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 124 From: thecliffguy@aol.com In a message dated 2/9/01 5:01:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, mluebker@home.com writes: << (that, among other things, is what the Off-Topic list is for) >> Is that a place people go to discuss comic art? ~Walt ;-) From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Fri Feb 09 08:14:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 16:14:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10363 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 16:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 16:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 17:15:48 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.99.107a8d01 (4368) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:14:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <99.107a8d01.27b57170@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:14:40 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin Greim To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/01 11:02:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > If MLJ is out of fandom, it's because he became a pro, writing for Apple and > Archie. Ya know what prodom does to people! > - Marty still lives here in MA, not far from me, last I knew, and I have bumped into him at Disney and Comic Book shows fromtime to time. Yes, he is a pro, but, having known him for almost 30 years I know him well enough that I know he is still a fan too! I do not have a complete run of Comic Crusader, but it is one of my favorite fanzines ever. Who else recalls the sext Wonder Woman drawing by Jim Steranko that was in one of the issues of Marty's magazine? ;o) --steve cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From buckyruckus@hotmail.com Fri Feb 09 10:12:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: buckyruckus@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 18:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9886 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 18:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 18:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 18:12:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.66] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 18:11:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:11:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Martin Greim Message-ID: <961bta+6cji@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8.100baa68.27b56cfc@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 948 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.146.58.31 From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., srowecanoe@a... wrote: > Bucky wrote (and ya know I wish you guys with fake names would tell us who you are - but I guess you might have a reason to not let us know who you are) > > << This surprised me, > since back in the day when I discovered fanzines (late '60s, early > '70s), he seemed to be quite the fan. I'd heard he was plagued by > vision problems that left him on the verge of becoming legally blind, > but I drifted away from comics and fandom for several years myself > shortly after, and never did hear what became of Marty.>> > > If MLJ is out of fandom, it's because he became a pro, writing for Apple and Archie. Ya know what prodom does to people! > > Steven Rowe Steven, No particular reason for the pseudonym ; strictly a lark. I'm active enough on other lists, where I use my real name. Surprised to hear about Martin turning pro. What titles has he written? Best, Bucky From buckyruckus@hotmail.com Fri Feb 09 10:18:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: buckyruckus@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 18:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27903 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 18:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 18:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 18:18:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.4.74] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 18:18:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:18:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Martin Greim Message-ID: <961c9e+k25c@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <99.107a8d01.27b57170@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1017 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.146.58.31 From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., AIRBOYO2@A... wrote: > In a message dated 2/9/01 11:02:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > srowecanoe@a... writes: > > > > If MLJ is out of fandom, it's because he became a pro, writing for Apple and > > Archie. Ya know what prodom does to people! > > - > Marty still lives here in MA, not far from me, last I knew, and I have bumped > into him at Disney and Comic Book shows fromtime to time. > Yes, he is a pro, but, having known him for almost 30 years I know him well > enough that I know he is still a fan too! > I do not have a complete run of Comic Crusader, but it is one of my favorite > fanzines ever. Who else recalls the sext Wonder Woman drawing by Jim Steranko > that was in one of the issues of Marty's magazine? > ;o) > --steve cohen > > Steve, Happen to recall which issue has the WW? Wondering now if I missed that one. Don't forget Steranko's magnificent Ray cover (COMIC CRUSADER #9). Or his nekkid Black Cat, on the back cover of #8! :) Best, Bucky From ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com Fri Feb 09 10:50:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 18:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 84535 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 18:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 18:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nyc.rr.com) (24.29.99.80) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 18:50:13 -0000 Received: from josephine ([24.29.107.17]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:51:38 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c092c9$a468fe80$116b1d18@nyc.rr.com> To: References: <981729096.1324.16843.l7@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 14 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:53:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com From: "Bill Orcutt" ......."While it MAY turn out to be the case, so far I can't see how ANYTHING Bush has done (or not done) can be blamed for the untimely death of ANYONE who's been denied treatment by an HMO. After all, he's been governor of Texas for the past six years, and someone else has been sitting in the Oval Office, using the bully pulpit that comes with it to set priorities and doing whatever HE deemed to be important for the last eight.".... I'm sorry, but aren't you talking about the same, former governor of Texas, the same govenor who was in charge of Texas' death penalty which put to death, somewhere between forty to fifty people during his course?? Doesn't this show his attitude towards humanity in general? I'm sure you all know of his cutting health related financial aid to third world countries under the broad cover that they were using the money to promote abortion. Bill Orcutt no great fan of Bush... ......and to reiterate our decidedly pro Bush Walt,..thanks for starting up this list...and to think, before comicart, Kirby and fanzine-Ls', I had a life beyond my computer.....this is more fun! From bud@budplant.com Fri Feb 09 11:04:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 19:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23017 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 19:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 19:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 19:04:13 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G8I006P373LYQ@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:52:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:48:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 14 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <000901c092c8$e03a3740$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <981729096.1324.16843.l7@yahoogroups.com> X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Dear Blake, I thought when you signed me up that you had an option to consolicate these messages. Honestly, I can't deal with several every day. If that is the only way to do these, please take me off the list. I keep scanning the same stuff over and over again. and I just don't have the time. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 14 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > From: Robert Beerbohm > 2. Re: The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zines > From: JerryBails@aol.com > 3. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > 4. Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > From: JerryBails@aol.com > 5. Great List! > From: thecliffguy@aol.com > 6. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: "Mark Luebker" > 7. Re: Great List! > From: "Mark Luebker" > 8. More On Tracings (Was Re: Re: Great List!) > From: Blake Bell > 9. Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > 10. Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Robert Beerbohm > 11. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: gordon green > 12. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: gordon green > 13. Re: More On Tracings (Was Re: Re: Great List!) > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > 14. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > 15. TBG's, and Our Pal Vinnie > From: Lyle Tucker > 16. Ditko/Kirby Pin-Ups From 1964 NY Con (Was Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons) > From: "Jerry " > 17. Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > From: JerryBails@aol.com > 18. Re: Great List! > From: magilla445@aol.com > 19. DITKO PIC 2 > From: flash14221@yahoo.com > 20. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Robert Beerbohm > 21. Re: DITKO PIC 2 > From: Blake Bell > 22. Fandom : Confidential (Was Re: Great List!) > From: Blake Bell > 23. Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: "Mark Luebker" > 24. Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Robert Beerbohm > 25. Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > From: Bev Keddy > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 17:43:48 -0600 > From: Robert Beerbohm > Subject: Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > > >It also produced the first Star Wars collectible--a poster drawn by Howard > >Chaykin. I still have mine, signed by Mark Hamill.--Jim Van Hise > > > Mine got destroyed along with 90% of my fanzine collection in the 1986 > flooding of Best of two Worlds' warehouse - all kinds of stuff. > > SD Comicons sure were fun in the earlier incarnations > > bob > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:52:47 EST > From: JerryBails@aol.com > Subject: Re: The Secret History Of Artist Contributions To 'Zines > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 4:24:37 PM, ditko37@home.com writes: > > > The real question is how many contributions of pros were actually TRACINGS > >of the original drawings, and not originals? > > I had never heard of this until this year (not that I owned a million > >mid-'60s fanzines). > > Any comments? > > Ditto (spirit duplicators) and memeograph both required the faned to trace a > drawing onto a master or stencil. There was at least one exception. Near > the end of my career with memeo (circa mid-60s), I used an electric stencil > machine to cut a stencil from original art, so that I could faithfully > reproduce items from my collection of original art. I was already switching > over to photo-offset, but an electric stencil was the next best thing. > > One put a photostat of the art next to the special stencil and placed them on > a rotating drum, and the process burned away the wax in a near-perfect > replica of the line drawing. I think I also used an early themofax machine > (which originally used heat) to do the same with a ditto master once or > twice. However, most of what I saw reproduced in the ditto and memeo > fanzines of the 60s was hand-drawn (traced) on the appropriate medium. > > Even the photo-offset drawings in fanzines may have required the faned to ink > the piece. For example, in Alter Ego #4, the first photo-offset comics > fanzine, I did an inked overlay of a pencil sketch by Jack Kirby of the > Thing. I'm sure other faneds did something similar if they were trying to > reproduce a pencil sketch. Naturally, I left the original sketch unscathed. > > Bestest, > > Jerry Bails > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:58:00 EST > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > In a message dated 2/8/01 3:51:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > > << ><< if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe > it > > just is a duck >> > > > >That's brilliant. So, if it sounds like a misinformed liberal, > talks/writes > >like a misinformed liberal, it just might be a misinformed liberal. >> > > One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. Who's > pulling his strings will be obvious. While both parties have unhealthy ties > to Corporate America, the Republicans are both brazan and unappologetic about > it. Just watch. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:21:37 EST > From: JerryBails@aol.com > Subject: Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 6:38:04 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > > >Ah, Vince Coletta. I think I saw him at a convention once with his seeing-eye > > > >dog. > >Back when Bret Blevins was working for Marvel (he won't now) he drew a > >comic > >(one of the movie adaptations, I think) and as usual Marvel was in a big > > > >hurry to get it. Bret explained to his editor that to meet their accelerated > > > >deadline he could only do simple pencils, not tight pencils. Those pencils > > > >were approved by the editor and passed on to the inker, Vince Colletta. > > > >Colletta turned in one of his worst jobs ever, and when he was rightly > > > >confronted over the substandard work, he blamed it on Bret. Marvel had > >to pay > >someone else to re-ink it and deducted a thousand dollars from Bret's payment > > > >for the book. And people wonder why comic artists get bitter.--Jim Van > >Hise > > > I'm not fan of Colletta's inking, but I have a problem with this example. > I'd need to know if Colletta was asked and paid to FINISH the art or just > INK. There's a difference. Since Brett did not do finished pencils in this > instance, it seems that his rate should've been reduced, unless there is more > to the story. > > I must say that while I am glad to see that pencillers take more pride in > their work today than 50 years ago, I think that they yield up more than a > little when they agree at the outset to be part of an assemblyline. If the > inking job is important to them, they have two options, both require that > they be paid for the entire art job or refuse the assignment. Option (1) Do > the inking themselves; (2) Pay an inker of their own choice. If a penciller > agrees to work on an assemblyline, he is losing his say over the completed > art. I fail to see how Brett in this instance has any complaint that can be > leveled at the inker he was assigned. The nature of Colletta's work was out > there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta > not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. > > Next case. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:51:35 EST > From: thecliffguy@aol.com > Subject: Great List! > > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying this list (even with the > political OTs)! This list is unique in that it offers a complement to the > other list(s) that I'm on. So, thank you for starting this list, and I look > forward to hearing more of your stories & experiences! > > Best, > > Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:58:40 -0000 > From: "Mark Luebker" > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > Jim Van Hise wrote: > > > One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. > > Who's pulling his strings will be obvious. > > I'm for actually waiting to see whether such a thing does, in > fact, become obvious before hanging it around the president's neck. > > While it MAY turn out to be the case, so far I can't see how ANYTHING > Bush has done (or not done) can be blamed for the untimely death of > ANYONE who's been denied treatment by an HMO. After all, he's been > governor of Texas for the past six years, and someone else has been > sitting in the Oval Office, using the bully pulpit that comes with it > to set priorities and doing whatever HE deemed to be important for > the last eight. > > So yeah, it's easy enough to predict what you think a guy MIGHT do, > especially if politically, you see him as the enemy. And I'm sure if > a person is willing to look hard enough (and perhaps selectively > enough) a case to support whatever claim you want to make against ANY > politician can eventually be made. > > But saying that you think Bush will reveal himself to be in the > pocket of certain corporate interests and having him actually > demonstrate that to be the case are still two different things. And > while you're certainly entitled to believe the former, I don't think > we've seen anything to indicate the latter. > > So whatever reasons anyone might want to attribute to Bush not > embracing the current version of the Patients' Bill of Rights, the > one he's given is that he doesn't want patients suing HMOs to be the > FIRST means of resolving a dispute, and that seems reasonable enough > to me. > > Lawsuits take time and they invariably line the pockets of the trial > attorneys, which--in addition to being of little help to a patient > who needs treatment NOW and may well be dead by the time such a > case is resolved--drives the overall cost of health care up, and > contributes directly to the unfortunate mindset of the bean-counters > who deny patients needed treatments because of their mania to keep > costs down. > > What we really need is a binding administrative method of resolving > these disputes in a timely and objective manner, without > unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers into it. > > > While both parties have unhealthy ties to Corporate America, the > Republicans are both brazan and unappologetic about it. Just watch. > > I WILL watch, you can count on it! > > After being a Democrat for most of my adult life (and supporting > Clinton in both 1992 and 1996), I walked away from the Democrats a > few years ago because they no longer seemed to be representing > anyone's interests but their own and that trying to accomplish the > things that I'd thought they stood for had taken a back seat to > maintaining their grip on power. (And as for brazen and apologetic, > well, do I have to even GO there?) > > So you can be sure that if I see the Republicans saying one thing and > doing another, I'll be turning my back on them just as fast. > (Although Heaven only knows where I go then!) But meanwhile, I'll > give them the benefit of the doubt. > -- > Regards, > Mark Luebker > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 01:05:20 -0000 > From: "Mark Luebker" > Subject: Re: Great List! > > Walt Parrish wrote: > > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying this list (even with > > the political OTs)! This list is unique in that it offers a > > complement to the other list(s) that I'm on. > > I'm enjoying it too, but I'd like to remind any and all who might be > interested in on-going off-topic discussions that there IS a list > that exists for specifically that purpose, oddly enough known as the > Off-Topic List. > > We're always happy to have anyone with an opinion, a quick wit, or > just an inclination to make small talk to join us there. The list > seems to have taken a bit of a tilt to the right in the last couple > of months, so we probably could use some articulate defenders of the > liberal point of view to join the fray! > > Anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a note and I'll get you > signed up! > > -- > Regards, > Mark Luebker > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:23:43 -0500 > From: Blake Bell > Subject: More On Tracings (Was Re: Re: Great List!) > > > Mark Luebker wrote: > > I'm enjoying it too, but I'd like to remind any and all who might be > > interested in on-going off-topic discussions that there IS a list > > that exists for specifically that purpose, oddly enough known as the > > Off-Topic List. > > Physician, heal thyself, Mark. ;) > > > We're always happy to have anyone with an opinion, a quick wit > > Of course, this rules Mark out. :p > That's what you get for bringing politics onto my list! As IF > Bush's "faith-based" crap isn't just the tip of the iceberg of > the Rep.s "representing anyone's interests but their own"... > Dooow! Now you've got me started...and I'm an objective Canadian! > Can't someone start a Yank Rhetoric list? > And welcome, Mark. As long as you don't drag politics onto this > list, I would be forced to hurt you. ;) > Anyone know of any OTHER Ditko contributions to fanzines that > were TRACED? Like his MR. A. illos of the late '60s, or was that all > corrected in fanzines by that point? > I wonder if every artist received back their original drawings? > I wonder how many asked? > I have an interesting Ditko story about that coming up in my next > DITKO LOOKED UPdate. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:38:09 EST > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > Subject: Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > > In a message dated 2/8/01 4:25:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, > JerryBails@aol.com writes: > > << The nature of Colletta's work was out > there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta > not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. > >> > > This was during Bret's early months with Marvel when he had no say over who > he did or didn't want inking him. The new guy generally doesn't. Ultimately > Bret was able to insist that he be allowed to ink his own work or else > approve the inker. And if Colletta had any problems with the work given him, > why didn't he complain to the editor first instead of blaming the penciller > later? It was believed that during Colletta's last years at Marvel that the > only reason he got any work was because he was friends with Jim Shooter. No > artist wanted Colletta inking their work, which is why he'd be given jobs > inking work on newcomers. Colletta was notorious for simplifying the art > given him so that he didn't have to spend any more time inking it than > necessary. The Jack Kirby Collector has printed original Kirby pencils and > the final inked pages by Colletta to show how Vince simplified backgrounds or > redrew things to make his job easier. -- JVH > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 21:13:04 -0600 > From: Robert Beerbohm > Subject: Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > >Jim Van Hise wrote: > > > >> One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. > >> Who's pulling his strings will be obvious. > > > >I'm for actually waiting to see whether such a thing does, in > >fact, become obvious before hanging it around the president's neck. > > > >While it MAY turn out to be the case, so far I can't see how ANYTHING > >Bush has done (or not done) can be blamed for the untimely death of > >ANYONE who's been denied treatment by an HMO. > > Sorry guys, i was going to walk away from this as per usual there ends up > being too many words, but this is what i wrote, > > "I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I buy it > very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's eulogy to GB > Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for necessary treatment > riled my tail feathers and I am really pissed off. > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is all of > what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to describe > himself as a good christian? Hogwash." > > No where did I blame dubya for GB's death. Jeeeeeez-us H Keeee-rist. > > This is where we part being on a plane of communication, I am afraid. > You reach - as you usually do - to the proverbial straw blowing in the > wind trying to tie something together that the party you seek to disect & > disassemble in your own mind did not write. > > If i meant to write, "Selected President George W Bush is directly to > blame for the death by HMO indifference of Gordon B. Love", well, then, > by golly, that is exactly what I would have written. But guess what, I > didn't. drum roll - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -But let's jump to > conclusions every time - and mold what we want to into whatever we want > to when we want to. Less than 25 % of potential American voters voted > for Bush. Somewhat the same number voted for that other guy Gore. The > boy does not have a mandate to deny what most Americans want to see > happen. Some people might disagree. Ka-peeeesh? > > robert beerbohm, > one of those "ill-informed" liberal minded persons > > Mark, you had this thought, > > "What we really need is a binding administrative method > of resolving these disputes in a timely and objective manner, > without unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers into it. " > > ie net result: don't be able to sue an HMO with the power of your life > in their hands? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:18:44 -0800 (PST) > From: gordon green > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > > Just before leaving office Clinton vetoed a bill that > would have provided lower cost perscriptions for > senior citizens. Do you inferr from that that Clinton > is opposed to senoirs, or just against medical reform? > Or, just maybe he was holding out for something that > actualy may be effective? Of course in Willy's case he > was just looking for a payoff or a BJ!- > > > -- thecliffguy@aol.com wrote: > > Well spoken/written, Mark! > > > > ~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific > > Standard Time, mluebker@home.com > > writes: > > > > << Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues > > like these are more likely > > to be resolved by people talking them through, not > > via the sort of anger and > > blaming that too often passes for political > > discourse these days. > > > > There IS more than one legitimate point of view. >> > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:28:07 -0800 (PST) > From: gordon green > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > In truth, as do ALL politicians! We have the best > government money can buy! Clinton had to "pay back" > the Chineese, why do you think he gave them missle > guidence technology over the warnings of the Defense > Department? > Your point is right on, just too narrowly aimed! As > far as HMOs you are COMPLETELY correct! They DO need a > bill that will give REAL rights to the patient! As far > as G.B is concerned it is a TRAVESTY! I think we all > are outraged by such behavior! In my own case, my HMO > has stopped the approval on a drug that I've been > taking for the past YEAR because it's too costly! ( > Celebrex) > It's not life or death, but it is perscribed and > needed! HMO's must be controled, this is NOT a > partisen issue! > NUFF SAID,back to talking about zines! > > --- Robert Beerbohm wrote: > > >Well spoken/written, Mark! > > > > > >~Walt Parrish, www.thecliffguy.com :) > > > > > >In a message dated 2/8/01 1:50:41 PM Pacific > > Standard Time, > > >mluebker@home.com > > >writes: > > > > > ><< Anyway, I know you don't like Bush, but issues > > like these are more likely > > >to be resolved by people talking them through, not > > via the sort of anger and > > >blaming that too often passes for political > > discourse these days. > > > > > > There IS more than one legitimate point of view. > > >> > > > > > > No doubt about it, well written, always well written > > - but that don't > > mean squat when it comes to Bush having to pay back > > his corporate > > sponsors by (for now) stalling long over due > > legislation to help PEOPLE. > > Same goes for those ya-hoos in Congress who kept > > stalling any > > Congressional tobacco look-sees for all those > > decades. > > > > Mark, you do not know anything about me. I have > > never written I dislike > > Bush. But you keep up with blindly defending > > insurance companies and the > > pharmacutical companies. Disguise it in your > > pseudo-legal speak as much > > as you wish. More power to you. > > > > Fact remains: HMOs denied GB Love rehab care he > > needed - and now he is > > dead. > > > > Fact remains: GB is fronting for his corp sponsors. > > > > twist my words all you want > > > > > > bob beerbohm > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:30:07 EST > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > Subject: Re: More On Tracings (Was Re: Re: Great List!) > > In a message dated 2/8/01 9:18:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com > writes: > > > > Anyone know of any OTHER Ditko contributions to fanzines that > > were TRACED? Like his MR. A. illos of the late '60s, or was that all > > corrected in fanzines by that point? > > > > Corrected?????? Huh? Virtually all comic book artwork is inked or traced. > Ditko never pencilled on stencils or masters -- so all of that was re-inked > by someone. For work that is photo-offset or xeroxed, there was no-need to > re-ink. Ditko had allready traced his pencils in ink for that. > How to tell? Look at the fanzine - and determine how it was printed.... > > (if you don't know, we'll be glad to share how to tell ditto from xerox) > > Steven Rowe > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:32:06 EST > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > In a message dated 2/8/01 7:20:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, > flash14221@yahoo.com writes: > > << Just before leaving office Clinton vetoed a bill that > would have provided lower cost perscriptions for > senior citizens. Do you inferr from that that Clinton > is opposed to senoirs, or just against medical reform? > Or, just maybe he was holding out for something that > actualy may be effective? Of course in Willy's case he > was just looking for a payoff or a BJ!- >> > > Like I said, both parties have unhealthy corporate ties. This is an example > of the Democrats giving payback to the pharmaceutical corporations. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:40:04 -0700 > From: Lyle Tucker > Subject: TBG's, and Our Pal Vinnie > > Just posted some THE BUYER'S GUIDE FOR COMIC FANDOM > cover scans in the FILES section (and, apropos of recent conversation, > #107 has a rather nice Bode' Tribute cover by Eric Vincent). Does > anyone know the number of the last TBG that was pubbed, as well as > the date of the first? > > Regarding My Man Vinnie, let's not forget that despite his many faults > (and, yes, they were legion) he was undeniably instrumental in helping > make THOR the smash it was, giving the strip a pleasing organic feel > that it was to never see again, and he did a far better job inking the > 4TH WORLD series than Mike Royer (a fine inker - but hamstrung > by Jack's insistence on ditto-esque tracing of his pencils). > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:03:57 -0000 > From: "Jerry " > Subject: Ditko/Kirby Pin-Ups From 1964 NY Con (Was Re: New Alter Ego/ Comic Cons) > > Thanks for posting them Blake! > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > > > GaryB98294@a... wrote: > > > I don't have the original (damn it), but I think I have a copy > of it. > > > I'll look and add it to the group. > > > > Here's a link to the 1964 New York City Convention Page on my > > DITKO LOOKED UP Site. It has both of "Ditko's" contributions... > > > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko/artist/arnycon.html > > > > And here's the Kirby THOR contribution, now in the FILES > section... > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/nythor.jpg > > > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:05:13 EST > From: JerryBails@aol.com > Subject: Re: 3 Points / QUESTAR #1 (Was Re : The Secret Histor > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 8:41:41 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > > >In a message dated 2/8/01 4:25:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >JerryBails@aol.com writes: > > > ><< The nature of Colletta's work was out > > there for all to see, and unless Brett had a prior agreement that Colletta > > > > not be used, his riling against Colletta doesn't entitle him to my sympathy. > > > >>> > > > >This was during Bret's early months with Marvel when he had no say over > >who > >he did or didn't want inking him. The new guy generally doesn't. Ultimately > > > >Bret was able to insist that he be allowed to ink his own work or else > > > >approve the inker. And if Colletta had any problems with the work given > >him, > >why didn't he complain to the editor first instead of blaming the penciller > > > >later? It was believed that during Colletta's last years at Marvel that > >the > >only reason he got any work was because he was friends with Jim Shooter. > >No > >artist wanted Colletta inking their work, which is why he'd be given jobs > > > >inking work on newcomers. Colletta was notorious for simplifying the art > > > >given him so that he didn't have to spend any more time inking it than > > > >necessary. The Jack Kirby Collector has printed original Kirby pencils > >and > >the final inked pages by Colletta to show how Vince simplified backgrounds > >or > >redrew things to make his job easier. -- JVH > > I don't deny the validity of any of these observations, but Colletta wasn't > the first nor last whose inking displeased pencillers. It has become popular > sport to dis Colletta, when it was the system that created and maintained > such assignments. Some editors would prefer less complicated backgrounds and > since they saw the ''before and after'' shots, one wonders if they weren't > entirely satisfied with what they were willing to pay for. > > Some artists, notably greats like Alex Toth and C.C. Beck, would probably > give some of today's admittedly proficient illustrators a hard time because > they don't simply their work. There is considerable difference of opinion > about the nature of the craft -- enough that young artists could well afford > to allow that it is not always the incompetence of an inker who destroys > their masterpieces. Other minds set other goals and an artist relinquishes > full say, especially when he agrees only to do rough pencils. > > Some pencillers are of the opinion that virtuoso work is best even when it > detracts from the story. No matter how great an illustrator is, he must > confront the fact that he is telling a story and his art will be reduced and > colored, and that some editors, inkers and colorists are going to have their > input, right or wrong. If he is new to the business, then he will have to > accept less say over the final product until he establishes himself. The > inker who is assigned to the story is not the culprit. > > I have the same problem with people who put the blame for a poorly run > restaurant on the pathetic untrained, underpaid waitress. The fault lies > with the management, not the hired help. If publishers and editors will > willing to pay for something other than a slash-dash ink job, then they could > get it. I wouldn't be at all surprised that even the lowiest of inkers > couldn't do a much better job if they could afford to take more time. > > Asking an inker to do finished art on an inker's wage is what I found > particularly unfair in your example. Even a poor hack disserves to be > treated fairly, and this chiming in to dis Colletta at every opportunity just > seems to be a popular fan pastime, which I find grossly unfair. Comics > support a range of talents, some great, some good, some mediocre. Likewise, > TV and movies support a range of talent, but I don't see fans booing hacneyed > actors at every opportunity. Instead, they treat them like royality. That's > going farther than I feel necessary. Some of the fawning actually > embarrasses me, but I think we are being more than a little unfair singling > out a poor working slob and repeating every penciller's whining complaint > about his inker. > > The mature artist works to gain control of the process of producing his final > product. It can be done with hitting on everybody's fall guy. As a matter > of fact, Colletta must have pleased more than Jim Shooter to have run a shop > with these talented guys: > __BAKER, MATT > __GIORDANO, DICK > __KWESKIN, SAM > and to have been art director at DC throughout the 1970s. > > Fan bonding doesn't require us to make hash out of anyone's career. Can't we > stop beating on Colletta. He hasn't twitched in the last ten years of abuse. > He's dead. Let him be. > > That's just my opinion. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:17:16 EST > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Re: Great List! > > Hi Blake! > > Sorry to be so long offering my congratulations on your great new list. I've > been having a grand time reading the posts. Nice to see so many familiar > names > and buddies from other lists. > > On the subject of fanzines....I recently picked up a copy of The Buyer's > Guide For Comic Fandom #467, October 29, 1982. Reading through the issue was > like spending an evening with old friends. I hadn't seen an old issue of > TBG for at least 15 years. If you compare the warmth of the issue with a > current issue of CBG, it is enough to invoke tears. I certainly miss Alan > Light, and his fannish approach to publishing. By the way, I heard a while > back that Alan had passed away. Can anyone here confirm this? > > Fandom in general has changed considerably since those grand old days of the > 70s and early 80s. Today, it is all business. There isn't much of the > camaraderie among collectors, at least not like it used to be. Kind of sad, > really. I am glad to see so many of the "old-timers" congregating here. I > am anticipating great things from this list. My only hope is that it won't > get too bogged down with heated political discussions, which tends to put a > damper on good will...not to mention fun. > > Warmest regards........Ron Frantz > FANDOM: Confidential > > http://members.aol.com/midguard20/Midguardindex.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 19 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:26:15 -0000 > From: flash14221@yahoo.com > Subject: DITKO PIC 2 > > I put a HS picture of Steve on file. Let it load, it's in bottom left. > Awfuly big file though. How can it be made smaller? > Gord > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 01 23:24:53 -0600 > From: Robert Beerbohm > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > >NUFF SAID,back to talking about zines! > > amen > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 21 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:27:48 -0500 > From: Blake Bell > Subject: Re: DITKO PIC 2 > > > flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > I put a HS picture of Steve on file. Let it load, it's in bottom left. > > Awfuly big file though. How can it be made smaller? > > It's done. I clipped out the picture. It's here in the FILES section... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ditko1943.gif > > It's been on Chris Harper's Ditko site since the dawn of time. Chris > had the original Ditko site on the 'Net. It hasn't been updated in three > years. He alledges it's from 1943, when Ditko was 16, which makes since, > given that Ditko would have not been in high school in 1947. > (And, as I've said, if someone doesn't have a memory saver program > like Ulead Smart Saver, which can cut the bytes of a scan from 250,000 > to 60,000 without killing the quality, please feel free to send me any > scans above 150,000 bytes, and I'll reduce them) > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 22 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:34:33 -0500 > From: Blake Bell > Subject: Fandom : Confidential (Was Re: Great List!) > > > magilla445@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Blake! > > > > Sorry to be so long offering my congratulations on your great new list. I've > > been having a grand time reading the posts. Nice to see so many familiar > > names and buddies from other lists. > > Heck, I'm also happy we have plenty of people NOT on our usual lists. > By the way, Ron, did you get my private e-mail to you last week? > For all of those who don't know Ron Frantz, he was the publisher/owner > of ACE COMICS in the late '80s, and has recently written the great book > on comic book fandom called "Fandom : Confidential". > It's $14.95 and can be purchased directly from Ron. It has a Pete > Morisi cover, introduction by Robert Sampson, and a cover blurb by > Jerry Bails. > Ron can really write, as shown in this great article he did exclusively > for my DITKO LOOKED UP site, which contains written letters from Vin > Sullivan, Pete Morisi, Alex Toth and Steve Ditko! It can be found here... > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko/artist/arskyfra.html > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 23 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:59:43 -0000 > From: "Mark Luebker" > Subject: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > Robert Beerbohm wrote: > > > Sorry guys, i was going to walk away from this as per usual there > > ends up being too many words, but this is what i wrote, > > > > "I just drove over 40 miles into Omaha to score the latest CBG - I > > buy it, very infrequently these days - to read James van Hise's > > eulogy to GB Love. The bit about the HMO refusing to pay for > > necessary treatment riled my tail feathers and I am really > > pissed off. > > > > And then I read in The NY Times On-line news today that our beloved > > selected Prez W wants to delay a Patients Bill of Rights - this is > > all of what is wrong with America. How does he have the gall to > > describe himself as a good christian? Hogwash." > > > > No where did I blame dubya for GB's death. Jeeeeeez-us H > > Keeee-rist. > > Sorry if I misunderstood, Bob. I was inferring that your first > paragraph was linked to your second, and was intended to either > directly or indirectly blame GWB for the circumstances that denied > GB Love the treatment he needed and, ultimately, led to his death. > > Certainly anyone who's had to wrestle with an HMO or insurance > company to try to extract an appropriate treatment for someone they > care about can understand your anger and frustration--my > mother-in-law died of cancer while her family was enmeshed in just > such a battle. (Because it was clearly terminal, the insurance > company declined certain treatments that could have prolonged her > life.) > > But it seemed to me that your anger WAS directed at Bush, whom you > referred to as "our beloved selected new Prez," who you suggest is > some kind of hypocrite for calling himself a Christian and not > supporting the current version of the Patients Bill of Rights, and > who you seem to imply is at least indirectly responsible for "all of > what is wrong with America." > > If it's NOT Bush that has you so mad, the only other possibility I > see is your having to drive 40 miles to get that issue of CBG, > something that would be relatively trivial by comparison. > > > You reach - as you usually do - to the proverbial straw blowing in > > the wind trying to tie something together that the party you seek > > to disect & disassemble in your own mind did not write. > > Again, sorry if I read in a meaning that you hadn't intended. I > reacted to what it SOUNDED like you meant, and while I'm aware that > you and I view things from different places on the political > spectrum, I don't think I was grasping at straws or inferring > something that others didn't see as well. I didn't come to this list > looking to discuss political issues (that, among other things, is > what the Off-Topic list is for), but if someone else raises them and > I don't agree with the opinions offered, I'm always happy to respond > with my POV. > > > Less than 25 % of potential American voters voted for Bush. > > Somewhat the same number voted for that other guy Gore. > > The boy does not have a mandate to deny what most Americans > > want to see happen. Some people might disagree. Ka-peeeesh? > > In raw numbers or in the percentage of the electorate who DID support > him, Bush certainly has a greater "mandate" than did the last > president, and the the margin or dimensions of a president's victory > really has no bearing on whether he should exercise the full powers > of the presidency and try to implement the promises he made and > the agenda that he campaigned on. > > And Bush DID campaign on a patients' bill of rights, just not the one > that a handful in Congress have offered up. > > > robert beerbohm, > > one of those "ill-informed" liberal minded persons > > I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think "liberal persons" > are "ill-informed"--to the contrary, listening to them and reading > what they have to say helps ME become more informed about all of the > various ideas and options that are out there. > > > >"What we really need is a binding administrative method > > >of resolving these disputes in a timely and objective manner, > > >without unnecessarily delaying the process or bringing lawyers > > >into it. " > > > ie net result: don't be able to sue an HMO with the power of your > > life in their hands? > > Not at all. And I'm not sure I was correct in calling it a "binding" > process--I probably should have called it a required first attempt to > settle things. The Bush proposal calls for having the administrative > process FIRST, but still leaves the door open to a lawsuit afterward, > if the dispute couldn't be settled via the (quicker) administrative > process. But when time is of the essence, going IMMEDIATELY to a > lawsuit (which can easily drag on for years and be delayed until long > after the patient is dead and the question moot) seems > counter-intuitive to me. > > Just how such a process would be implemented--who would decide, what > sort of time-frame would be involved--will obviously be important, > and make the difference between it being a legitimate way to resolve > disputes quickly, and a sham designed to enable insuarance companies > to simply delay lawsuits. But I need to see those details before I'm > willing to make a final judgment. > > -- > Regards, > Mark Luebker > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 24 > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 08:20:56 -0600 > From: Robert Beerbohm > Subject: Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > > mark > > you chose to interpret what you pre-wanted to see - not what I wrote > > bob > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 25 > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:30:04 -0400 > From: Bev Keddy > Subject: Re: Re: OT: HMO Killed GB Love? > > At 08:20 AM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >mark > > > >you chose to interpret what you pre-wanted to see - not what I wrote > > > >bob > > > I'm trying to figure out what this thread has to do with fanzines. > > Can we get back to the focus of this mailing list? I suggest if you want > to continue this conversation that you take it off line. > > Bev > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > From ditko37@home.com Fri Feb 09 11:51:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 19:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5719 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 19:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 19:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 19:51:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.56] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2001 19:51:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:51:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Administrative Points (Was Bud Plant's Re: Digest Number 14) Message-ID: <961hof+s36s@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c092c8$e03a3740$1b02a8c0@bud> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3213 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.230 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Bud Plant wrote: > I thought when you signed me up that you had an option to > consolicate these messages. Honestly, I can't deal with several > every day. Hi Bud. There are THREE ways to view messages from this list. 1) Receive individual e-mails into your e-mail box 2) Receive digests which seem to compile about 20 or so of them, before sending out a digest. If there are sixty messages in a day, you're likely to get three digests. I think you would get at least ONE digest a day, even if there were less than 20 messages. 3) View all messages on the web-site at... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/messages ...which may mean you'd have to sign in to do so. Option #3 means you'll get no e-mail. I'm not sure what you mean by "consolidate", Bud, if I haven't covered it in OPTION #2. You are currently on the DIGEST format, Bud, but I can switch you over to #3, if you'd like. > If that is the only way to do these, please take me off the list. > I keep scanning the same stuff over and over again. I don't know what you mean by "scanning the same stuff over and over again". You should never get the same message twice, but people will "quote" parts of other messages in theirs, and some will UNFORTUNATELY quote the entire message (or even a whole DIGEST!), even if its irrelevant to their post, when they are posting. Of course, if you mean being forced to read messages filled with political rhetoric, having nothing to do with fanzines, than I can sympathize, and will continue to ask people to STOP DOING IT. This isn't a politics list. It SHOULD be quite simple to restrain oneself from commenting, no matter how strongly one feels about the topic. Just remember FANZINES...FANZINES...FANZINES. I don't want to get bullish, and piss people off, but I've had more than one person privately complain about the recent rash of politics-only messages and their tone. Just plain stop. Even if someone has started something, before you bang back a response, just don't. You're not saving the world, and (from what I've seen of the majority of participants in the U.S. two party system) a retort on a fanzine list is NEVER going to change a person's mind, so just exhibit restraint. Lord knows I don't want to have to start to moderate the list's messages. It's a list for the free-exchange of idea...about fanzines. We are all doing a great job of providing info. on this topic so far, and I hope we won't lose people, or get bogged down, because of undesired political discussions. You can always join the G.C.D. Chat list for that. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Feb 09 13:02:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 9 Feb 2001 21:02:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 83181 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 21:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2001 21:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2001 21:02:14 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.7d.10ba9ce9 (15894) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from web45.aolmail.aol.com (web45.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.6]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:01:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:01:36 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Administrative Points (Was Bud Plant's Re: Digest Number 14) To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <7d.10ba9ce9.27b5b4b1@aol.com> From: srowecanoe@aol.com Blake wrote <> actually the GCD Chat list has been politics free for awhile now... ; ) Steven Rowe From thecliffguy@aol.com Fri Feb 09 16:00:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 00:00:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25781 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 00:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 00:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 01:01:30 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.48.114ab1c6 (3971) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:00:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <48.114ab1c6.27b5de94@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:00:20 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 14 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: thecliffguy@aol.com The death penalty (unless I'm mistaken) is only for convicted felons whose crimes society has deemed so reprehensible that that person no longer deserves to live. I don't believe this would reflect anyone's attitude towards humanity in general. Just the villains. ~Walt :) In a message dated 2/9/01 6:51:56 AM Dateline Standard Time, ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com writes: << I'm sorry, but aren't you talking about the same, former governor of Texas, the same govenor who was in charge of Texas' death penalty which put to death, somewhere between forty to fifty people during his course?? Doesn't this show his attitude towards humanity in general? I'm sure you all know of his cutting health related financial aid to third world countries under the broad cover that they were using the money to promote abortion. Bill Orcutt >> From thecliffguy@aol.com Fri Feb 09 16:02:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 00:02:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 78480 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 00:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 00:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 00:02:11 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.bf.b7c325b (3971) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:02:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:02:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Administrative Points (Was Bud Plant's Re: Digest Number 14) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: thecliffguy@aol.com In a message dated 2/9/01 7:53:47 AM Dateline Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: << Just plain stop. >> Okay. ~Walt :) From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Fri Feb 09 16:16:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 00:16:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 86098 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.8f.6b429b8 (18710) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:16:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8f.6b429b8.27b5e26a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:16:42 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Martin Greim To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/01 1:21:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, buckyruckus@hotmail.com writes: > Happen to recall which issue has the WW? Wondering now if I missed > that one. Don't forget Steranko's magnificent Ray cover (COMIC > CRUSADER #9). Or his nekkid Black Cat, on the back cover of #8! :) ----------------------- Hey Bucky! It may be the one with Kurt Schaffenberger's Captain Marvel getting shot in the tushy (heh) by Dr. Sivana, I cannnot be sure, but it is around there I believe. #14 perhaps? The drawing shows WW pulling her starspangled panties down as she looks over her shoulder, and Sternko inscribed it to Marty and Ellie "have a swinging weekend". Most of my older fanzines are still in the process of being catalogued and boxed, I will come across the Comic Crusaders between now and April. --steve cohen > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mcatron@planetcable.net Fri Feb 09 16:31:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 00:31:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21070 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 00:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 00:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 00:31:13 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:20:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Comics Journal #230 and a video link Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:31:11 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know I've joined the list. I started working in fanzines in the early '70s and I, too, attended that fabled 1969 Seulingcon -- and many after that. Even put on a convention or two myself. Of current interest, I have an article in the fanzine I co-founded, The Comics Journal. My article on DC co-owner Jack Liebowitz is now out in the latest issue, #230, the Tom Sutton interview issue. The piece runs about 5 1/2 pages and covers some little-known information, including the never-before-revealed Origin of the Donenfeld-Liebowitz team. I want to extend my special thanks to Mike Gold, for providing a nice little sidebar in the issue, reporting a conversation between Liebowitz and Dick Sprang. In addition, The Journal is currently providing online supplemental material to the article, specifically Jerry Siegel's 1975 press release detailing his troubles with DC (requires the free Acrobat Reader for Macs or Windows from adobe.com) as well as a video clip of an interview with Leibowitz (requires the free Quicktime player for Macs or Windows from apple.com.). That material is online now at www.tcj.com/liebowitz.html The Comics Journal #230 should be in stores now. My subscription copy arrived today. I'd love to hear what you think of it. I'd especially be grateful for the correction of any errors I may have made. -- Mike Catron From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Feb 09 17:44:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 01:44:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 31512 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 01:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 01:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 01:44:11 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.16.8a22bc5 (6153) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:44:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <16.8a22bc5.27b5f6e0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:44:00 EST Subject: About CBzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In light of the heavy traffic on this list, we might find it desirable to follow some rules so that we don't lose members who can contribute to the discussion of comics fanzines: (1) Quote only the relevant portions of a message that we want to respond to. However, not quoting the key parts is just as bad. Messages appear out of order and make no sense unless the references are clear. (2) While OT comments are tolerable if done sparingly, arguments that go back and forth are not. They are self-indulgent at the expense of everyone else. We need to make our point politely, stick to the point, then leave the stage, PLEASE. It is not as though we can't take our pet peeves to other lists. Now, those are not too onerous, are they? It could help to avoid the loss of busy people who might how something very important for all of us to hear. Bestest, Jerry B. From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Feb 09 21:29:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 05:29:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5693 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 05:29:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 05:29:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 05:29:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.118] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2001 05:29:06 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:29:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comics Journal #230 and a video link Message-ID: <962jj1+55s8@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 698 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.84 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Mike, Read it today. A fine piece about a pioneer in the industry. Not much is known today about a lot of the men who started the Comics Industry, so any bit of data is valuable. Gord > > Of current interest, I have an article in the fanzine I co-founded, The > Comics Journal. > > My article on DC co-owner Jack Liebowitz is now out in the latest issue, > #230, the Tom Sutton interview issue. > Tom Sutton interview was very interesting as well. > > The Comics Journal #230 should be in stores now. My subscription copy > arrived today. > > I'd love to hear what you think of it. I'd especially be grateful for the > correction of any errors I may have made. > > -- Mike Catron From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Feb 10 08:17:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 16:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26541 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 16:17:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 16:17:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 16:17:53 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10145 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:17:33 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.185] (ppp44.netimaging.com [208.136.132.185]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA10048 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:17:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200102101617.KAA10048@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Graphic Story Magazine #10 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 01 10:15:29 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >From: Rob G or Michael G (using this site too with permission), >ninthnebu >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >I could use "any" issue of Gothic Blimp Works. I have a few copies for sale From ditko37@home.com Sat Feb 10 08:50:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 16:50:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27243 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 16:50:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 16:50:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail1.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.88) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 16:50:27 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail1.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010210164921.UTOY16501.femail1.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:49:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3A857113.2BF2BB26@home.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:49:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: First Mentions Of Collecting In Comics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Yesterday, I saw an issue of WONDER WOMAN (#156 - 8/65), which has the mention of a comic book shop and collecting and a D.C. book going for a $100 (with WONDER WOMAN looking at a newspaper story of it) Do I remember an article on this story? I can't remember the story behind the story. Is this the first mention of comic collecting, or just "an early one" as Overstreet suggests? What other early mentions in comics of fandom/collecting can anyone name? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From mcatron@planetcable.net Sat Feb 10 10:03:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 18:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 78316 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 18:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 18:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 18:03:31 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [cbzines] First Mentions Of Collecting In Comics Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:03:29 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron On 2/10/01 11:49 AM Blake Bell at ditko37@home.com said: > Yesterday, I saw an issue of WONDER WOMAN (#156 - 8/65), which has the >mention of a comic book shop and collecting and a D.C. book going for a >$100 (with WONDER WOMAN looking at a newspaper story of it) > Do I remember an article on this story? I can't remember the story >behind the story. > Is this the first mention of comic collecting, or just "an early one" >as Overstreet suggests? > What other early mentions in comics of fandom/collecting can anyone >name? Well, the first thing that comes to mind, of course, is Supersnipe. Perhaps Scribbly, too (although I haven't seen a lot of examples of that one). From tonyisa@ohio.net Sat Feb 10 14:09:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 22:09:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 93740 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 22:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 22:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 22:09:28 -0000 Received: from Tom (ppp-e23.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.119]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id WAA18950; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:02:29 GMT for œ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:02:29 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010210163645.006a9838@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:36:45 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella At 06:58 PM 2/8/01 EST, Jim Van Hise wrote: >One can argue all day. Just watch what GW does, and what he says. Who's >pulling his strings will be obvious. While both parties have unhealthy ties >to Corporate America, the Republicans are both brazan and unappologetic about >it. Just watch.<<< Molly Ivins, a national treasure if ever there was one, wrote a column this week about how *every* member of the Bush cabinet has corporate ties and have served those corporate ties. Not that the same couldn't have been said about lots of Dems as well. Another columnist, whose name escapes me, once suggested that politicians be required to wear the logos of the corporates who contribute to their various campaigns...much as race car drivers wear their corporate sponsor logos. I love that idea. Is this where we start a threat on campaign financing reform? Tony Isabella ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Feb 10 14:34:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 87391 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 22:34:54 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.7d.10c80046 (4257) for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:34:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7d.10c80046.27b71c05@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:34:45 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: HMO Killed GB Love? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 02/10/2001 5:10:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, tonyisa@ohio.net writes: << Is this where we start a threat on campaign financing reform? >> LOL! A threat indeed! Steven Rowe From mluebker@home.com Sat Feb 10 14:55:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mluebker@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 22:55:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 64932 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 22:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 22:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 22:55:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mluebker@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.123] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2001 22:55:15 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:55:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OT: The Off-Topic List... Message-ID: <964gsj+8m32@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 205 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.4.160.79 From: "Mark Luebker" Walt asked: > Is that [the Off-Topic list] a place people go to discuss comic art? > > ~Walt ;-) Weirdly enough, it IS. Or anything else that ISN'T on topic somewhere else... -- Regards, Mark Luebker From tonyisa@ohio.net Sat Feb 10 15:10:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 23:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 96353 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 23:10:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 23:10:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 00:11:56 -0000 Received: from Tom (ppp-a21.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.21]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id XAA22714; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:54 GMT for œ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:54 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010210174334.006bb2a4@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:43:34 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vince Colletta In-Reply-To: <50.112d29bf.27b4c679@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella At 11:05 PM 2/8/01 EST, Jerry Bails wrote: >Fan bonding doesn't require us to make hash out of anyone's career. Can't we >stop beating on Colletta. He hasn't twitched in the last ten years of abuse. > He's dead. Let him be.<<< Hear, hear! I worked with Vince and he was always uncommonly decent to me. I know how often he was called on to ink books virtually overnight because a penciller or, more likely, a writer was late turning in their end of the job. Then the same writer would bitch about the inking. Was he a saint? Of course not. But he doesn't deserve the venom he receives from fandom. Tony Isabella ********************************* Tony's Online Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 10 18:43:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 02:43:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 68771 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 02:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 02:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 02:43:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.132] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2001 02:43:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:43:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Vince Colletta Message-ID: <964u8s+patq@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010210174334.006bb2a4@mail.ohio.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1717 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.142 From: flash14221@yahoo.com - > > I worked with Vince and he was always uncommonly decent to me. > > I know how often he was called on to ink books virtually overnight because > a penciller or, more likely, a writer was late turning in their end of the > job. Then the same writer would bitch about the inking. > > Was he a saint? Of course not. > > But he doesn't deserve the venom he receives from fandom. > ics.com/tony > ** I think the reason Fandom generaly dislikes his work is that he was a "workman" in an era that featured many, many "craftsmen". His inking was fast and in many cases resulted in a book making its deadline on time! You either love him or hate him, it's all your point of view. Some of his solo work in the romance books was actually rather charming. Personaly, I disliked his thin lines and spotting of blacks, but that's my taste. I'm reminded of the time I was attending a Van Gogh exhibit, and as I was standing in front of " Starry Nights " just drinking in the beauty and passion of the work , a woman came up behind me and commented " What junk! My three year old daughter fingerpaints better than this stuff!". It's all in your point of view and your taste. The same problem has befallen many others, but Vince's blacking out silouettes of detailed pencils, and simplification of other detailed pencils speaks not to a "style" , but to " hurry and get it done!". A practice that was praised by editors behind the clock, but cursed by pencilers who spent time at their craft. The fact remains that Colletta had MANY who really loved the result. In any event he produced a ton of very readable books , helped create a generation of fans, and gave us something to talk about! Gord From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sat Feb 10 22:38:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 06:38:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17589 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 06:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 06:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mq.egroups.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 06:38:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.101] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2001 06:38:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:38:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Example Message-ID: <965c1s+d7j8@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 210 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.56 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Could you give an specific example of a Vinnie Colletta ink-job you personally like or dislike (one of each). I'm going to go see who inked my favorite Kirby Thor's (J.I.M.). I agree taste is subjective. From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sat Feb 10 22:41:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 06:41:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 32710 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 06:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 06:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mq.egroups.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 06:41:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.101] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2001 06:41:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:41:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Message-ID: <965c68+badg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 169 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.56 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I agree with you. I wonder what some of the other folk here might think would be the best inker/penciller team ups. Dan Adkins was a good inker until that scandal. From jonesart@ulster.net Sun Feb 11 00:29:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 08:29:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 59939 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 08:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 08:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.20) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 09:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 8198 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 03:29:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.backend.thebiz.net (HELO mail2.thebiz.net) (172.16.0.129) by mx1.backend.thebiz.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 03:29:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 11017 invoked by uid 0); 11 Feb 2001 03:28:59 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 03:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3A864CB1.15C1B507@ulster.net> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:26:26 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Colletta, inkers, pencillers... References: <965c68+badg@eGroups.com> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan was one of the first pros I met when I came to NY in 1967. What scandal? Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com ______________________________________________________ Rob Gustaveson wrote: > I agree with you. I wonder what some of the other folk here might > think would be the best inker/penciller team ups. > > Dan Adkins was a good inker until that scandal. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Feb 11 03:43:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 11:43:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 58047 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 11:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 11:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 12:44:32 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.b5.6f3d44c (3858) for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:43:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:43:23 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 02/10/2001 9:44:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << Some of his solo work in the romance books was actually rather charming >> Hmm, I believe that most of what fans call solo Colletta work in the romance books, are products of his shop. Where he had folks like Matt Baker and Maurice Whtiman doing the pencilling in the early 1960s. Steven Rowe From DocV@Prodigy.net Sun Feb 11 06:46:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 14:46:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1203 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 14:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 14:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.103) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 15:47:57 -0000 Received: from [63.253.76.187] (A070-0187.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.76.187]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1BEkoq93724 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:46:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200102111446.f1BEkoq93724@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:48:48 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Steve Rowe wrote: > Hmm, I believe that most of what fans call solo Colletta work in the romance > books, are products of his shop. Where he had folks like Matt Baker and > Maurice Whtiman doing the pencilling in the early 1960s. That's very true Steve but Colletta was drawing romance comics continuously from 1953 to 1960. If you track it all back as I have you begin to see "true" Colletta emerging about 1955 and if you continue it further back to 1954 and 1953 you see exactly what "solo" Colletta looks like. (Just be careful for those Standard Art Saaf/Colletta stories). From then you can look at all the later 1950's Colletta and be able to tell when he's using ghosts. Baker under Colletta is the easiest to distinguish as the panel layouts and figure work are nothing like what Vinnie himself would do. I'll list some below. Solo Colletta was classic pin-up style "good girl" art. It was stiff but very appealing. The women were gorgeous. He could have been a wonderful fashion artist. I'm in the last stages of indexing the "entire" Timely/Atlas romance line and have been immersed in Vinnie's romance work for months. I refuse to knock Vinnie Colletta for his inking. He was mis-matched with Jack Kirby on super hero features. He was fast though and Stan Lee certainly didn't seem to mind that the product got out on time. By the way, this brings up memories of fighting it out with Colletta's biggest basher, my late friend on Kirby-L Bruce Lowry. I'd work myself up into a lather sometimes over his postings and I miss it greatly. He's dead 2 years this week and Kirby-L hasn't been the same. Doc V. All these Baker / Colletta stories below need one more close going over. Sometimes I have question marks on Baker, sometimes on Colletta. The odds are that all are Baker/Colletta. I just need more time and less sleep! Baker / Colletta (?) WORLD OF FANTASY 17 Apr/59 H/F Pre-Hero T-178 The Brain Picker! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY 50 Jan/59 H/F Pre-Hero T-106 The Green Fog! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) TALES TO ASTONISH 2 Mar/59 H/F Pre-Hero T-126 I Fell to the Center of the Earth! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 66 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero T-050 The Problem Of Pamela Nelson! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-??? This Was My Honeymoon! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T -301 If Love Is Blind 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-423 Don't Break My Heart Again 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-429 Can't You See I Love You! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 cover Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero T-531 I Gave Up The Man I Love! 6 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 74 Mar/60 Romance Pre-Hero T-613 I Loved A Scoundrel 7 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) TEEN-AGE ROMANCE 77 Sept/60 Romance Pre-Hero T-8?? The Mistake Of mary Dixon 5 pages Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. O-051 I Left My Heart On The Other Side Of The Tracks! 5 pages Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. O-106 He Was Here All The Time! 4 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero M-964 First Date! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero T-047 And One Was Beautiful! 5 pages Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-140 When I Meet My Dream Man 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-157 The Kind Of Girl He'll Marry! 5 pages Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-273 Better late Than Never! 5 pages Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-272 His Lips ... Or None! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-??? Don't Let Me Be An Old Maid! 5 pages Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-363 Don't Try To Tame Me! 5 pages (page 3, panel 2 looks like Ann Brewster inks!) Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-407 We Both Loved Tony! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero T-401 I Loved And Lost! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 85 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero T-531 (?) The Man I Love! 5 pages Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 90 Nov/60 Romance Pre-Hero T-924 Happily Ever After (splash page only!) From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Feb 11 09:40:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 11 Feb 2001 17:40:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 84465 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 17:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2001 17:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 17:40:08 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf16.rt66.com [206.206.85.36]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18535 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:40:06 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A86CEE3.C95A4F2E@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:41:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: OT - Bruce Lowry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker >By the way, this brings up memories of fighting it out with Colletta's >biggest basher, my late friend on Kirby-L Bruce Lowry. I'd work myself up >into a lather sometimes over his postings and I miss it greatly. He's dead >2 years this week and Kirby-L hasn't been the same. >Doc V. My God, how time flies! I can't believe it's been two years, Doc! You're right, though, his presence is a void which has yet to be filled. He was a generous and fun-loving man (not that Kirby-l doesn't have it's share of those - simply none in the style of Bruce!). Thanks for bringing his spirit up again - it did me good to mull over the memories and to actively miss the fellow! Everyone who knew Bruce, raise a glass and let him know that we forgive him his Colletta-bashing, or, if you absolutely have to, re-affirm how right he was (and we'll forgive you in his name!). ;-D --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun Feb 11 16:10:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 00:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15743 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 00:10:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 00:10:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr.egroups.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 00:10:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2001 00:10:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:10:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Example Message-ID: <9679ks+jogu@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <965c1s+d7j8@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1094 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.247.124.95 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Rob Gustaveson" wrote: > Could you give an specific example of a Vinnie Colletta ink-job you > personally like or dislike (one of each). I'm going to go see who > inked my favorite Kirby Thor's (J.I.M.). > > I agree taste is subjective. ** I'd refer you to a recent issue of THE KIRBY COLLECTOR, ( I'm not sure of the #, but it was a very recent one, I'll check and post it though.) which addressed the Colletta Controversy. Shown were Kirby's THOR pencils only and the corresponding inks by Vinnie. It was very interesting to see the vast amount of detail that was just blacked out for the obvious reason of expediency, NOT art. As an artist, just imagine your reaction to seeing your work butchered to that extent. Of course, you could take the attitude ( as many GA and SA artists did, see this months ALTER EGO article by Rog Hill on Mac Raboy!) that as long as the payment check comes in, who cares! Most 70's artist, who arose from the ranks of Fandom, DID care! And that is the crux of the controversy! ONWARD! Gord From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Sun Feb 11 21:33:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 05:33:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 65835 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 05:33:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 05:33:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO f19.egroups.com) (10.1.2.136) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 05:33:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.67] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2001 05:33:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:33:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Example Message-ID: <967sil+6npt@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9679ks+jogu@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1394 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" It may be that Colletta was mismatched to the Marvel books he worked on, but I can point you to examples in the 1970s where Colletta absolutely butchered butchered art. Certainly some issues of Marvel Two-In-One where he flattened and thinned dynamic Sal Buscema art and rendered anatomy in ways it has never been seen are examples. I can cite specific issues of numerous comics if you'd like. It's weird, because what I've seen of his non-Marvel stuff is pretty creditable, and I kind of like what he did with Kirby on Thor and New Gods - though anyone would have to admit that Joe Sinnott, for instance, was a much more fitting inker for Jack than Colletta. Maybe the problem with Colletta for those of us who first saw his work in the mid-70s is that at that time he was just hacking it out. I still feel prejudiced somewhat by my feeling at the time that Vince Colletta was about the worst at what he did. I've grown to like work by artists I hated at the time, such as Heck, Tuska, and Herb Trimpe, but the flatness, lack of dynamism and thinness of Colletta's line, on everyone from Buscema to Kirby to Bret Blevins to Mike Grell, destroyed many more jobs than it added to. Can you point out a job from that era that shows quality work by Colletta? I'm happy to be proven wrong in my opinion, but I can't remember many jobs where his work was even mediocre. - Jason From dstudham@hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 02:08:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: dstudham@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 10:08:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 95463 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 10:08:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 10:08:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.241.106) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 11:09:37 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:08:32 -0800 Received: from 202.137.86.12 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:08:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.137.86.12] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin Greim Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:08:31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 10:08:32.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0E70C50:01C094DB] From: "david studham" >From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com >Is Marty alive and well? Is it true that he no longer collects comics >or comic art? If so, was this a result of blindness? Most >importantly, can anyone help with contact info? I'd like to >drop him a line or two, and let him know how much I enjoyed his zine, >COMIC CRUSADER, so long ago. > >Thanks, >Bucky > Bucky, I had the fortune to meet Martin last October on a holiday to North America. We are in the same online fanclub. He noted I was in his local area and that there was a comic fair on the next day, so he emailed me. He was attending with Bob Cosgrove and we met up for a short while and it was a highlight of my trip. (Beside seeing the Jr JSA kit another online friend had purchased as a child of 10, way back when the Jr JSA started! Looked brand new after all these years!) Martin and I've corresponded a little bit since them. I saw your inquiry and e-mailed Martin, here's his reply. Dear Dave. To affirm my well being, yes I'm fine. My sight is such that I can no longer draw, but I still write and I still collect comics, but I'm far more selective about what I collect. The JSA being one of my favorites. I'm just not as enamored with comics these days. Very few are on my buying list. I collect figures that are well done and original art that I don't already have representations of. I've sold a lot of art too, but kept what I wanted to keep. If I can't display it, then I sell it, except for those pieces I just can't live with out...i.e. Ditko, Kirby, Barks, etc. Dave, please pass along the word that I'm alive and well and that I still collect and am a member of the JSAAA - http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thejsaappreciationassociation. Regards, Marty Hope that this helps, I'm sure you can catch Martin at JSAAA. Cheers Dave Studham _____________ Davo's All-Star Comics Page http://dstudham.www8.50megs.com/ Davo's Jr JSA Page http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dstudham/jrjsa.htm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From bwrcreeper@hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 09:45:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bwrcreeper@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 17:45:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16279 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 17:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 17:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 18:46:24 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:45:19 -0800 Received: from 149.159.42.174 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:45:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.159.42.174] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Example Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:45:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 17:45:19.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[90D752A0:01C0951B] From: "Mike Quilligan" >Can you point out a job from that era that shows quality work by >Colletta? I'm happy to be proven wrong in my opinion, but I can't >remember many jobs where his work was even mediocre. > >- Jason Hello, Colletta on Rogers on the cover of the Mister Miracle revival of '77(#20?) sticks out as some pretty sharp work... MQ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From ditko37@home.com Mon Feb 12 10:27:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 18:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 62663 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 18:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 18:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 18:27:39 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010212182713.DAVE25405.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:27:13 -0800 Message-ID: <3A882AD9.58CA9607@home.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:26:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin Greim References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell david studham wrote: > I saw your inquiry and e-mailed Martin, here's his reply. Thanks for passing on the message, Dave. nice to see Marty is doing well. You should see if you can convince him to join up here! He'd be a great addition. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Mon Feb 12 10:58:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 12 Feb 2001 18:58:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 86953 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 18:58:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2001 18:58:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 18:58:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.124] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2001 18:58:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:58:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Example Message-ID: <969bod+87b5@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 659 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Mike Quilligan" wrote: > >Can you point out a job from that era that shows quality work by > >Colletta? I'm happy to be proven wrong in my opinion, but I can't > >remember many jobs where his work was even mediocre. > > > >- Jason > > Hello, > > Colletta on Rogers on the cover of the Mister Miracle revival of '77 (#20?) > sticks out as some pretty sharp work... > > MQ It's not bad, but it doesn't exactly match the work that Rogers did with the covers on the rest of the run. It is Mister Miracle #20 and here's the cover: http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/54180586568.20. GIF From odbs@zoomnet.net Mon Feb 12 17:41:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 01:41:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 70783 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 01:41:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 01:41:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.25) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 02:42:55 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-224-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.31.75.225]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17106 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c0955d$fd5b7360$e14b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Example Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:40:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Can you point out a job from that era that shows quality work by >Colletta? I'm happy to be proven wrong in my opinion, but I can't >remember many jobs where his work was even mediocre. Actually I liked him best on Kirby, Tales of Asgard in particular. It's true that Colletta's inking did tend to flatten out the art, which was disasterous combined with pencillers who didn't use wild perspective tricks as Kirby did. I never cared for his inking on Don Heck, Joe Orlando, George Tuska or Alex Toth. Yet on Kirby and Colon he was pretty good sometimes. For one thing he made Kirby's women considerably more attractive. Best, Dave More great mailing lists: wood-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com charlton-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com stanlee-subscribe@yahoogroups.com comicstrips-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 12 18:04:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 02:04:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 335 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 02:04:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 02:04:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 02:04:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.118] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2001 02:04:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 02:04:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Example Message-ID: <96a4mv+cr7k@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c0955d$fd5b7360$e14b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1071 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.149 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --** Art, like beauty, is truly in the eye of the beholder! Ya know, there actualy are poeple who like velvet paintings of Elvis! Gord - In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Dave Rawlins" wrote: > >Can you point out a job from that era that shows quality work by > >Colletta? I'm happy to be proven wrong in my opinion, but I can't > >remember many jobs where his work was even mediocre. > > Actually I liked him best on Kirby, Tales of Asgard in particular. It's true that Colletta's inking did tend to flatten out the art, which was disasterous combined with pencillers who didn't use wild perspective tricks as Kirby did. I never cared for his inking on Don Heck, Joe Orlando, George Tuska or Alex Toth. Yet on Kirby and Colon he was pretty good sometimes. For one thing he made Kirby's women considerably more attractive. > Best, > Dave > More great mailing lists: > wood-l-subscribe@y... > > charlton-l-subscribe@y... > > stanlee-subscribe@y... > > comicstrips-l-subscribe@y... > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From DocV@Prodigy.net Mon Feb 12 20:02:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 04:02:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 34405 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 04:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 04:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.102) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 04:02:54 -0000 Received: from [63.253.94.9] (A100-0771.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.94.9]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1D42qK163066 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:02:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200102130402.f1D42qK163066@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Example Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:05:09 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Dave wrote: > Actually I liked him best on Kirby, Tales of Asgard in particular. It's true > that Colletta's inking did tend to flatten out the art, which was disasterous > combined with pencillers who didn't use wild perspective tricks as Kirby did. > I never cared for his inking on Don Heck, Joe Orlando, George Tuska or Alex > Toth. Yet on Kirby and Colon he was pretty good sometimes. For one thing he > made Kirby's women considerably more attractive. And that's exactly what was wrong with carrying what worked with Jack Kirby to other artists. Jack worked fast and was best utilized as a penciller. The other artists you mentioned were "never" as good when inked by others. Don Heck was ruined by being saddled with one mis-matched inker after another. Stan Lee took a wonderful artist whose best inker was "himself" and put him into a pencilling mode, forcing him to emulate Kirby on his layouts and story design. Yes it made for much faster work delineation but I never beileved Heck ever got back to the unique quality his "own" genre work in the 1950's had. Compare the wonderful Comic Media and prime Atlas 1955-57 work he did to anything he did in the Marvel age and beyond. The same goes for George Tuska. Brutally gritty crime work done in his unique style, compared to pencilling for Colletta's inks. And Orlando and Toth? Who'd want to see anyone ink them? Other artists did work well with proper inkers. Gene Colan, for example. John Buscema is another. Used as a wonderful penciller, the right inker would match the right feature, whether it was Conan, the Silver Surfer, the FF or Thor. Is there a Don Heck package of mine circulating on another list? I remember sending one out over a year ago. I've updated it with some gorgeous stuff. Doc V. From ditko37@home.com Mon Feb 12 20:51:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 04:51:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4781 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 04:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 04:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail1.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.88) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 04:51:53 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail1.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010213045046.ZHVB16501.femail1.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:50:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3A88BD15.38766837@home.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:50:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Aurora References: <95vrh7+dplf@eGroups.com> <3A837FD4.C8A7F194@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Was it THE Len Wein who did the AURORA fanzine from the 1963-5? Anyone have the cover to #5, or at least know if there was a month form 1965 ascribed to it? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From magilla445@aol.com Mon Feb 12 21:25:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 05:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 47517 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 05:25:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 05:25:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 05:25:53 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.45.24af599 (3971) for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:25:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45.24af599.27ba1f5d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:25:49 EST Subject: Re: Fandom : Confidential (Was Re: [cbzines] Great List!) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 From: magilla445@aol.com In a message dated 2/8/01 11:37:08 PM Central Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: << Heck, I'm also happy we have plenty of people NOT on our usual lists. By the way, Ron, did you get my private e-mail to you last week? For all of those who don't know Ron Frantz, he was the publisher/owner of ACE COMICS in the late '80s, and has recently written the great book on comic book fandom called "Fandom : Confidential". It's $14.95 and can be purchased directly from Ron. It has a Pete Morisi cover, introduction by Robert Sampson, and a cover blurb by Jerry Bails. >> Hey Blake...I certainly appreciate your kind plug for FANDOM: Confidential. For anyone who might be interested in my book of fan history, please click on to the link below for more information. No, I never did receive that last email. It must be bouncing around somewhere out there in the far reaches of cyberspace. If you don't mind, please send it again:). Warmest regards........Ron Frantz FANDOM: Confidential http://members.aol.com/midguard20/Midguardindex.html From ltucker@rt66.com Mon Feb 12 22:45:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 06:45:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18996 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 06:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 06:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 07:46:08 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf02.rt66.com [206.206.85.22]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12566 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:45:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A88D83E.E2849832@rt66.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:46:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Got my copy of MIDNITE MASQUERADER from our own Gordon Green! The first thing that captures your eye is the great Kirby-esque AVENGERS cover provided by Steve Rude and Bruce Timm (I'm assuming this is a pastiche, with Rude drawing Captain America, Giant-Man, Wasp, Thor, and Iron Man; and Timm doing The Hulk.) It sets the tone for a rather nice experience all around. The inside cover is a full-page Timm drawing of DC characters (probably the Justice Society or something like that -- can you tell I'm a Marvel Zombie?) This also sets the tone for a practice I hope Gordon continues, that being the tendency to provide full- page drawings. Many fanzines, to my mind, suffer from simply tossing in the filler spot illo here and there, devoting the bulk of the zine to words. I don't particularly have anything against a good article, but personally I'm drawn to the entire art form for the art, so the extra-wordy zine often fails to grab my attention. Gordon provides a good balance throughout. And Al Bigley provides a coupla nice spot illos of Batgirl and, I think, a Batman female villain (Harlequin?). The first article is an examination of Kirby's third return to Marvel in 1976, written by Ramon Schenk. I had mostly left comics behind by this time, being one year from graduation from high school and considering comics to be something one grew out of (hah!), so Ramon does a nice job of catching me up on a few series I've yet to check out. He manages to pique my interest in both Devil Dinosaur (and I *never* thought I'd ever say that!) and The Eternals. The artwork accompanying the article are full-page reproductions from Cap's Bicen- tenial Battles and 2001. The only weak part of the article is the opening illo of the FF battling Dr. Doom, which looks like it was pulled down off the Internet and blown-up to fit the piece - the repro is pretty poor. Next up is a short bio of early Fan staple, Ron Foss, followed by some classic illos by him (including a gorgeous pin-up of "The Eclipse"), as well as a fun recent strip, THE OLYMPIAN. Gordon then gives us glimpses of COVERS THAT NEVER WERE, which includes aborted covers such as: Nick Fury by Herb Trimpe; The Spectre by Murphy Anderson; Ghost Rider by Mike Ploog; Big Barda by Kirby; Pre-Imperial Guard by Dave Cockrum; Secret Origins by Brian Bolland; and West Coast Avengers by John Byrne. These are all also full-pagers, ranging from very clear repro to semi-clear repro, but none of them being below-enjoyable. What I think is probably the crowning jewel of the issue is a rather interesting (even for this Marvel Devotee) presentation of an Alan Moore proposal called TWILIGHT OF THE SUPERHEROES. It was, apparently, to be the concluding chapter of Moore's triumvirate which began with V FOR VENDETTA and continued with WATCH- MEN. I don't know if this info is common knowledge or not, but I found it a fascinating look into both the business practices of DC, as well as a look inside the mind and plotting of Moore. The issue closes with a full-page repro of the cover of the fanzine, THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO, a letter from Stan Lee (dated 8/18/99) crediting Steve with co-creator status for the Wall Crawler, and a real nice 13-page Mike Zeck portfolio (nicely stapled into the back cover). All in all I enjoyed this zine very much (way to go, Gord!) and from the sound of it, #2 is going to be even better, promising to have at least twice as many pages and sporting a super Berni Wrightson BATMAN cover! You can contact Gordon at: flash14221@yahoo.com for orders. I don't think you'll be disappointed! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Feb 13 05:34:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 13:34:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 63590 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 13:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 13:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r20.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.162) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 14:35:49 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.b3.709ae9c (18559) for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:34:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:34:42 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/11/01 9:48:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, DocV@Prodigy.net writes: > That's very true Steve but Colletta was drawing romance comics continuously > from 1953 to 1960. If you track it all back as I have you begin to see > "true" Colletta emerging about 1955 and if you continue it further back to > and of course, he (and friends) continued to do romance comics till the mid 1960s or so....for charlton. folks on the (Wally) Wood list mentioned that Maurice Whtiman worked for Colletta in the mid 1960s. I'd say more, but I just figured out that Colletta is probably off-topic for this list.... Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Feb 13 05:34:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 13:34:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 40784 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 13:34:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 13:34:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 13:34:52 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.21.7617310 (18559) for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:34:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <21.7617310.27ba91ef@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:34:39 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Aurora To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/12/01 11:52:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > > > Was it THE Len Wein who did the AURORA fanzine from the 1963-5? > I think so, certainly THE Len Wein, and THE Marv Wolfman were publishing alot of comic fanzines in the pre-1969 days, so I think if there was another len Wein, there would have been trouble. I believe that Stephen King had his first story reprinted in a Marv Wolfman fanzine (it was originally in a 25-50 copy fanzine, Marv's was in the 100s I believe). Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Feb 13 06:08:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 14:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 24258 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 14:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 14:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 15:09:09 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17711 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:08:03 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.177] (ppp36.netimaging.com [208.136.132.177]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA17623 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:08:02 -0600 Message-Id: <200102131408.IAA17623@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Aurora Date: Tue, 13 Feb 01 08:06:21 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/12/01 11:52:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 >ditko37@home.com writes: >>=20 >>=20 >> Was it THE Len Wein who did the AURORA fanzine from the 1963-5? >>=20=20=20=20 > >I think so, certainly THE Len Wein, and THE Marv Wolfman were publishing=20 >alot=20 >of comic fanzines in the pre-1969 days, so I think if there was another le= n=20 >Wein, there would have been trouble. > I believe that Stephen King had his first story reprinted in a Marv=20 >Wolfman=20 >fanzine (it was originally in a 25-50 copy fanzine, Marv's was in the 100s= I=20 >believe). > >Steven Rowe wasn't SK's first work for Len in Super Adventures #6? 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From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Feb 13 06:17:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 14:17:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 72828 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 14:17:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 14:17:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 15:18:12 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.73.af5176d (18405) for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:16:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <73.af5176d.27ba9bd1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:16:49 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Aurora To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/13/01 9:09:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > wasn't SK's first work for Len in Super Adventures #6? > I have it kicking around here somewhere > Oops, I think you're right - however, it was a reprint from a smaller print fanzine. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From RJCroxton@aol.com Tue Feb 13 10:16:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 13 Feb 2001 18:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 10959 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 18:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2001 18:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r14.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.68) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 18:16:21 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.22.11d0dae4 (2521) for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:16:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <22.11d0dae4.27bad3ed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:16:13 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/13/2001 12:46:12 AM Central Standard Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > All in all I enjoyed this zine very much (way to go, Gord!) and from > the sound of it, #2 is going to be even better, promising to have at > least twice as many pages and sporting a super Berni Wrightson > BATMAN cover! You can contact Gordon at: > > flash14221@yahoo.com > > for orders. I don't think you'll be disappointed! > > --lyle tucker > I know that I enjoyed reading MM #1 and am looking forward to #2. I want to thank both Gord and Lyle for their contributions to TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6. The Fighting Yank art that he sent me is one of the best pieces of art I ever seen and Lyle has sent some beautiful art for my fanzine. With what Gord sends me I could do 2 fanzines and would still have some left over. With great guys like Gord and Lyle you can't help but enjoy printing. Thanks!!! Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com Wed Feb 14 05:44:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 14 Feb 2001 13:44:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 25216 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 13:44:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2001 13:44:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nyc.rr.com) (24.29.99.76) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Feb 2001 13:44:24 -0000 Received: (apparently) from josephine ([24.29.107.17]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c0968c$c3a2fb40$116b1d18@nyc.rr.com> To: References: <982156780.771.62754.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: MM#1? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:48:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: ivanderputten@nyc.rr.com From: "Bill Orcutt" Where can I pick up MM#1?? Bill Orcutt From gpfoley@earthlink.net Wed Feb 14 06:16:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 14 Feb 2001 14:16:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 90811 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 14:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Feb 2001 14:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Feb 2001 14:16:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.225] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2001 14:16:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:15:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 Message-ID: <96e3us+oum0@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A88D83E.E2849832@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 4182 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.143 From: "Jerry " Great review Lyle! I hope other members will start posting currently published fanzine reviews for us, I really enjoy them and like to try out new zines. Fanzines Reviews on a regular basis would make this group even better! --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > Got my copy of MIDNITE MASQUERADER from our own > Gordon Green! The first thing that captures your eye is the > great Kirby-esque AVENGERS cover provided by Steve Rude > and Bruce Timm (I'm assuming this is a pastiche, with Rude > drawing Captain America, Giant-Man, Wasp, Thor, and Iron > Man; and Timm doing The Hulk.) It sets the tone for a rather > nice experience all around. > > The inside cover is a full-page Timm drawing of DC characters > (probably the Justice Society or something like that -- can you tell > I'm a Marvel Zombie?) This also sets the tone for a practice I > hope Gordon continues, that being the tendency to provide full- > page drawings. Many fanzines, to my mind, suffer from simply > tossing in the filler spot illo here and there, devoting the bulk of > the zine to words. I don't particularly have anything against a > good article, but personally I'm drawn to the entire art form for > the art, so the extra-wordy zine often fails to grab my attention. > Gordon provides a good balance throughout. And Al Bigley > provides a coupla nice spot illos of Batgirl and, I think, a Batman > female villain (Harlequin?). > > The first article is an examination of Kirby's third return to Marvel > in 1976, written by Ramon Schenk. I had mostly left comics behind > by this time, being one year from graduation from high school and > considering comics to be something one grew out of (hah!), so Ramon > does a nice job of catching me up on a few series I've yet to check > out. He manages to pique my interest in both Devil Dinosaur (and I > *never* thought I'd ever say that!) and The Eternals. The artwork > accompanying the article are full-page reproductions from Cap's Bicen- > tenial Battles and 2001. The only weak part of the article is the > opening > illo of the FF battling Dr. Doom, which looks like it was pulled down > off the Internet and blown-up to fit the piece - the repro is pretty > poor. > > Next up is a short bio of early Fan staple, Ron Foss, followed by some > classic illos by him (including a gorgeous pin-up of "The Eclipse"), as > well as a fun recent strip, THE OLYMPIAN. > > Gordon then gives us glimpses of COVERS THAT NEVER WERE, > which includes aborted covers such as: Nick Fury by Herb Trimpe; > The Spectre by Murphy Anderson; Ghost Rider by Mike Ploog; Big > Barda by Kirby; Pre-Imperial Guard by Dave Cockrum; Secret Origins > by Brian Bolland; and West Coast Avengers by John Byrne. These > are all also full-pagers, ranging from very clear repro to semi- clear > repro, but none of them being below-enjoyable. > > What I think is probably the crowning jewel of the issue is a rather > interesting (even for this Marvel Devotee) presentation of an Alan > Moore proposal called TWILIGHT OF THE SUPERHEROES. It > was, apparently, to be the concluding chapter of Moore's triumvirate > which began with V FOR VENDETTA and continued with WATCH- > MEN. I don't know if this info is common knowledge or not, but I > found it a fascinating look into both the business practices of DC, as > well as a look inside the mind and plotting of Moore. > > The issue closes with a full-page repro of the cover of the fanzine, > THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO, a letter from Stan Lee (dated > 8/18/99) crediting Steve with co-creator status for the Wall Crawler, > and a real nice 13-page Mike Zeck portfolio (nicely stapled into the > back cover). > > All in all I enjoyed this zine very much (way to go, Gord!) and from > the sound of it, #2 is going to be even better, promising to have at > least twice as many pages and sporting a super Berni Wrightson > BATMAN cover! You can contact Gordon at: > > flash14221@y... > > for orders. I don't think you'll be disappointed! > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From jgjensen@uniontel.net Wed Feb 14 15:25:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 14 Feb 2001 23:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 61985 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 23:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2001 23:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Feb 2001 23:25:48 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (network181-68.wctc.net [209.94.181.68]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1ENTYo14725 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:29:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004401c096d5$a97e48c0$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:29:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe he died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art after he died. Any thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo To: CBZines Date: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta >-- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > >Steve Rowe wrote: > >> Hmm, I believe that most of what fans call solo Colletta work in the >romance >> books, are products of his shop. Where he had folks like Matt Baker and >> Maurice Whtiman doing the pencilling in the early 1960s. > >That's very true Steve but Colletta was drawing romance comics continuously >from 1953 to 1960. If you track it all back as I have you begin to see >"true" Colletta emerging about 1955 and if you continue it further back to >1954 and 1953 you see exactly what "solo" Colletta looks like. (Just be >careful for those Standard Art Saaf/Colletta stories). From then you can >look at all the later 1950's Colletta and be able to tell when he's using >ghosts. Baker under Colletta is the easiest to distinguish as the panel >layouts and figure work are nothing like what Vinnie himself would do. I'll >list some below. Solo Colletta was classic pin-up style "good girl" art. >It was stiff but very appealing. The women were gorgeous. He could have >been a wonderful fashion artist. I'm in the last stages of indexing the >"entire" Timely/Atlas romance line and have been immersed in Vinnie's >romance work for months. I refuse to knock Vinnie Colletta for his inking. >He was mis-matched with Jack Kirby on super hero features. He was fast >though and Stan Lee certainly didn't seem to mind that the product got out >on time. > >By the way, this brings up memories of fighting it out with Colletta's >biggest basher, my late friend on Kirby-L Bruce Lowry. I'd work myself up >into a lather sometimes over his postings and I miss it greatly. He's dead >2 years this week and Kirby-L hasn't been the same. > >Doc V. > > > >All these Baker / Colletta stories below need one more close going over. >Sometimes I have question marks on Baker, sometimes on Colletta. The odds >are that all are Baker/Colletta. I just need more time and less sleep! > > >Baker / Colletta (?) WORLD OF FANTASY 17 Apr/59 H/F Pre-Hero >T-178 The Brain Picker! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY 50 Jan/59 H/F Pre-Hero >T-106 The Green Fog! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) TALES TO ASTONISH 2 Mar/59 H/F Pre-Hero >T-126 I Fell to the Center of the Earth! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 66 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero >T-050 The Problem Of Pamela Nelson! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-??? This Was My Honeymoon! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T >-301 If Love Is Blind 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-423 Don't Break My Heart Again 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-429 Can't You See I Love You! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 cover Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero > >Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero >T-531 I Gave Up The Man I Love! 6 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 74 Mar/60 Romance Pre-Hero >T-613 I Loved A Scoundrel 7 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) TEEN-AGE ROMANCE 77 Sept/60 Romance Pre-Hero >T-8?? The Mistake Of mary Dixon 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. >O-051 I Left My Heart On The Other Side Of The Tracks! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. >O-106 He Was Here All The Time! 4 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero >M-964 First Date! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero >T-047 And One Was Beautiful! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-140 When I Meet My Dream Man 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-157 The Kind Of Girl He'll Marry! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-273 Better late Than Never! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-272 His Lips ... Or None! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-??? Don't Let Me Be An Old Maid! 5 pages > >Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-363 Don't Try To Tame Me! 5 pages (page 3, panel 2 looks like Ann >Brewster inks!) > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-407 We Both Loved Tony! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero >T-401 I Loved And Lost! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 85 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero >T-531 (?) The Man I Love! 5 pages > >Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 90 Nov/60 Romance Pre-Hero >T-924 Happily Ever After (splash page only!) > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Feb 14 15:53:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 14 Feb 2001 23:53:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 97227 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2001 23:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2001 23:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r01.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 00:54:50 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.63.11d01d36 (7094) for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:53:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <63.11d01d36.27bc7486@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:53:42 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/14/01 6:29:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: > Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these > books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe he > died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art > after he died. Sure, he actually died circa 1962. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Wed Feb 14 17:19:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 01:19:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15413 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 01:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 01:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 02:20:34 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.98.1092c0ad (4566) for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:19:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <98.1092c0ad.27bc889d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:19:25 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/14/01 6:29:37 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: >Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these >books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe >he >died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art >after he died. Any thoughts? > Contrary to earlier printed reports, Baker did not die until 1963. BAKER, MATT [c1919-63] (artist) Bestest, Jerry Bails From DocV@Prodigy.net Wed Feb 14 17:55:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 01:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 1065 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 01:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 01:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.103) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 02:56:47 -0000 Received: from [63.253.85.24] (A080-1040.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.85.24]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1F1teG127808 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:55:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200102150155.f1F1teG127808@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:57:59 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Jon wrote: > Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these > books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe he > died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art > after he died. Any thoughts? No backlog, Jon. 1957 is a date quoted incorrectly for years. He died closer to 1963 with his very last work being that Colletta "shop" work, I believe. Doc V. From odbs@zoomnet.net Wed Feb 14 19:22:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 03:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 6311 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 03:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 03:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.25) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 04:23:28 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-545-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [206.230.103.66]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09609 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:22:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c096fe$43b0e560$4267e6ce@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: <965c68+badg@eGroups.com> <3A864CB1.15C1B507@ulster.net> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:20:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffery Jones writes: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey Jones To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Dan was one of the first pros I met when I came to NY in 1967. What scandal? Jeffery: I don't have anything to add vis a' vis Dan Adkins, can't imagine what sort of scandal could keep a fella from drawing comics! Anyhow, I just wanted to ask if you're same the Jeff Jones who drew Idyl for National Lampoon? BTW: I loved the strip. Best, Dave Rawlins More great mailing lists: wood-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com charlton-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com stanlee-subscribe@yahoogroups.com comicstrips-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Feb 14 20:57:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 927 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 04:57:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.4] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2001 04:57:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:57:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 Message-ID: <96fnjc+56np@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A88D83E.E2849832@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5160 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.20 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Lyle Tucker wrote: > Got my copy of MIDNITE MASQUERADER from our own > Gordon Green! The first thing that captures your eye is the > great Kirby-esque AVENGERS cover provided by Steve Rude > and Bruce Timm (I'm assuming this is a pastiche, with Rude > drawing Captain America, Giant-Man, Wasp, Thor, and Iron > Man; and Timm doing The Hulk.) It sets the tone for a rather > nice experience all around. >***Yup, Synergy in action! Very effective blend of styles as well, It really worked! > The inside cover is a full-page Timm drawing of DC characters > (probably the Justice Society or something like that -- can you tell **** Early production promo for the new JUSTICE LEAGUE Cartoon Channel series. This also sets the tone for a practice I > hope Gordon continues, that being the tendency to provide full- > page drawings. Many fanzines, to my mind, suffer from simply > tossing in the filler spot illo here and there, devoting the bulk of > the zine to words. I don't particularly have anything against a > good article, but personally I'm drawn to the entire art form for > the art, so the extra-wordy zine often fails to grab my attention. > Gordon provides a good balance throughout. **** Yes, that is my intention. I too like BIG pictures where warrented. Spot illos have their place too, as in the Twilight article. And Al Bigley > provides a coupla nice spot illos of Batgirl and, I think, a Batman > female villain (Harlequin?). *** Actualy Harley Quinn's GOOD twin, MISS MASQUERADER, a young cousin of fandom fave JOY HOLIDAY! > > The first article is an examination of Kirby's third return to Marvel > in 1976, written by Ramon Schenk. I had mostly left comics behind > by this time, being one year from graduation from high school and > considering comics to be something one grew out of (hah!), so Ramon > does a nice job of catching me up on a few series I've yet to check > out. He manages to pique my interest in both Devil Dinosaur (and I > *never* thought I'd ever say that!) and The Eternals. The artwork > accompanying the article are full-page reproductions from Cap's Bicen- > tenial Battles and 2001. The only weak part of the article is the > opening > illo of the FF battling Dr. Doom, which looks like it was pulled down > off the Internet and blown-up to fit the piece - the repro is pretty > poor. **** This is actualy Jack's pencils for the FF TREASURY EDITION. Looked great on the xerox, but printed up like mud! This was a problem with a couple of the penciled covers as well. The Ploog Ghost Rider for example. Beautiful delicate pencils, much of them washed out by the printing! > > Next up is a short bio of early Fan staple, Ron Foss, followed by some > classic illos by him (including a gorgeous pin-up of "The Eclipse"), as > well as a fun recent strip, THE OLYMPIAN. > > Gordon then gives us glimpses of COVERS THAT NEVER WERE, > which includes aborted covers such as: Nick Fury by Herb Trimpe; > The Spectre by Murphy Anderson; Ghost Rider by Mike Ploog; Big > Barda by Kirby; Pre-Imperial Guard by Dave Cockrum; Secret Origins > by Brian Bolland; and West Coast Avengers by John Byrne. These > are all also full-pagers, ranging from very clear repro to semi-clear > repro, but none of them being below-enjoyable. > > What I think is probably the crowning jewel of the issue is a rather > interesting (even for this Marvel Devotee) presentation of an Alan > Moore proposal called TWILIGHT OF THE SUPERHEROES. It > was, apparently, to be the concluding chapter of Moore's triumvirate > which began with V FOR VENDETTA and continued with WATCH- > MEN. I don't know if this info is common knowledge or not, but I > found it a fascinating look into both the business practices of DC, as > well as a look inside the mind and plotting of Moore. > > The issue closes with a full-page repro of the cover of the fanzine, > THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO, a letter from Stan Lee (dated > 8/18/99) crediting Steve with co-creator status for the Wall Crawler, > and a real nice 13-page Mike Zeck portfolio (nicely stapled into the > back cover). **** A blessing made possible by the screw up by the printer! The printer ignored the page layout and I wound up with FOUR blank pages! I tipped in the inside front cover as well as the Ditko letter ( The Ditko pictures and tribute was to be the back cover!) This made it possible to include a portfolio as an attachment to the inside back cover. I always liked the idea of add ins etc. Issue #2 will have a FOLD OUT in the " GIRLS OF THE COMICS !" feature! **** Thanks for the great review! MM#2 will be even better! Gord > All in all I enjoyed this zine very much (way to go, Gord!) and from > the sound of it, #2 is going to be even better, promising to have at > least twice as many pages and sporting a super Berni Wrightson > BATMAN cover! You can contact Gordon at: > > flash14221@y... > > for orders. I don't think you'll be disappointed! > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From jonesart@ulster.net Thu Feb 15 02:46:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 10:46:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 65071 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 10:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 10:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx2.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.21) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 10:46:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25637 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 05:46:32 -0500 Received: from mail1a.backend.thebiz.net (172.16.0.72) by mx2.backend.thebiz.net with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 05:46:32 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 05:46:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3A8BB2ED.18972FE7@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:43:57 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Colletta, inkers, pencillers... References: <965c68+badg@eGroups.com> <3A864CB1.15C1B507@ulster.net> <000701c096fe$43b0e560$4267e6ce@HPAuthorizedCustomer> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, Yes, that would be me. Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com _________________________________ Dave Rawlins wrote: > Jeffery: > Anyhow, I just wanted to ask if you're same the Jeff Jones who drew > Idyl for National Lampoon? BTW: I loved the strip. > Best, > Dave Rawlins [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From darkmark90@yahoo.com Thu Feb 15 05:21:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 13:21:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 75010 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 13:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 13:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 13:21:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.126] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2001 13:21:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:21:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Message-ID: <96gl4h+onc4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A8BB2ED.18972FE7@ulster.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 176 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com Aw, shucks...and here I was thinkin' he was just the Jeff Jones who did "Dragon Slayer" with Weezie Jones for MONSTERS AND HEROES back in 1968! Just goes to show... ;-) DM From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 15 05:48:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 13:48:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 32207 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 13:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 13:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 13:48:02 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02692 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:48:01 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.157] (ppp16.netimaging.com [208.136.132.157]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA02607 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:48:00 -0600 Message-Id: <200102151348.HAA02607@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Thu, 15 Feb 01 07:46:20 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these >books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe he >died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art >after he died. Any thoughts? Baker seems to have been alive until at least the early 1960s It was Joe Maneely who died in 1957 - killed by a subway train in a freak accident bob beerbohm From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Feb 15 09:30:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 17:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 68319 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 17:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 17:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 17:29:14 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.9b.10e1f47c (5710) for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from web46.aolmail.aol.com (web46.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.7]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:29:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:29:11 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines]Jeff jones( Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <9b.10e1f47c.27bd6be7@aol.com> From: srowecanoe@aol.com and wasns't there a Jeff Jones who did fanzines back in the circa 1967 era? the same guy? : ) Steven Rowe From jonesart@ulster.net Thu Feb 15 10:14:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 18:14:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 85253 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx2.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.21) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 19:15:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3954 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 12:42:33 -0500 Received: from mail1a.backend.thebiz.net (172.16.0.72) by mx2.backend.thebiz.net with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 12:42:32 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 12:42:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3A8C1466.9C51435F@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:39:50 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines]Jeff jones( Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... References: <9b.10e1f47c.27bd6be7@aol.com> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steven, Let's not get ugly. : ) Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com srowecanoe@aol.com wrote: > and wasns't there a Jeff Jones who did fanzines back in the circa 1967 > era? the same guy? > : ) > > Steven Rowe > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jhprice@cox-internet.com Thu Feb 15 10:44:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jhprice@cox-internet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 18:44:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 95313 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 18:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 18:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europa.cox-internet.com) (208.180.118.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 19:45:18 -0000 Received: from price ([208.180.177.129]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010215184251.MHEZ29901.europa@price> for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:42:51 -0600 Message-ID: <001b01c0977f$3201e680$81b1b4d0@tcac.net> To: References: <9b.10e1f47c.27bd6be7@aol.com> <3A8C1466.9C51435F@ulster.net> Subject: Re: [cbzines]Jeff jones Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:43:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "John Price" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Always admired your cartooning work, Jeff, and your paintings too. I loved and acquired your "Blind Narcisis" print. I wanted to put it up in my chiropractic office when I first opened but it had been in storage and got torn and mildewed. Always enjoyed your unique work. John P. www.jeffreyjones.com srowecanoe@aol.com wrote: > and wasns't there a Jeff Jones who did fanzines back in the circa 1967 > era? the same guy? > : ) > > Steven Rowe > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jonesart@ulster.net Thu Feb 15 11:00:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 19:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 49622 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.20) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 19:00:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12753 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 13:50:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.backend.thebiz.net (HELO mail2.thebiz.net) (172.16.0.129) by mx1.backend.thebiz.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 13:50:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 12354 invoked by uid 0); 15 Feb 2001 13:50:27 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 13:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3A8C2458.6E962F0F@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:47:52 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines]Jeff jones References: <9b.10e1f47c.27bd6be7@aol.com> <3A8C1466.9C51435F@ulster.net> <001b01c0977f$3201e680$81b1b4d0@tcac.net> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Thank you. Well, you can always get another one. I have (shameless plug) some of the original edition for sale at: http://www.ulster.net/~jonesart/posters1.htm Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com _______________________________ John Price wrote: > Always admired your cartooning work, Jeff, and your paintings too. > I loved and acquired your "Blind Narcisis" print. I wanted to put it > up in my chiropractic office when I first opened but it had been in > storage and got torn and mildewed. Always enjoyed your unique work. > John P. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jonesart@ulster.net Thu Feb 15 13:35:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 15 Feb 2001 21:35:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 84411 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 21:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2001 21:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.20) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 21:35:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 15429 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 09:56:07 -0500 Received: from mail1.backend.thebiz.net (HELO mail1.thebiz.net) (172.16.0.179) by mx1.backend.thebiz.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 09:56:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 24366 invoked by uid 0); 15 Feb 2001 09:56:03 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 09:56:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3A8BED6A.9E940666@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:53:30 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... References: <96gl4h+onc4@eGroups.com> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DM, Well... DRAGON SLAYER was the first comic I did after moving to NYC. I drew the whole thing, then Weezie and I both wrote a story for it. Then we threw mine out. : ) Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com __________________________________ darkmark90@yahoo.com wrote: > Aw, shucks...and here I was thinkin' he was just the Jeff Jones who > did "Dragon Slayer" with Weezie Jones for MONSTERS AND HEROES back in > 1968! Just goes to show... ;-) > > DM > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor www. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > -- http://www.jeffreyjones.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Feb 15 16:51:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 16 Feb 2001 00:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 95226 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 00:51:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Feb 2001 00:51:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 00:51:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.108] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2001 00:51:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:51:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines]Jeff jones Message-ID: <96hthr+ne89@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A8C2458.6E962F0F@ulster.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 939 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.20 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Jeff, So great to have you on the list! I've admired your work for years as much as I've admired your character and commitment to your ideals! Look forward to your insights and comments! Best, Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jeffrey Jones wrote: > John, > > Thank you. Well, you can always get another one. I have (shameless > plug) some of the original edition for sale at: > > http://www.ulster.net/~jonesart/posters1.htm > > Jeffrey > www.jeffreyjones.com > _______________________________ > > John Price wrote: > > > Always admired your cartooning work, Jeff, and your paintings too. > > I loved and acquired your "Blind Narcisis" print. I wanted to put it > > up in my chiropractic office when I first opened but it had been in > > storage and got torn and mildewed. Always enjoyed your unique work. > > John P. > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Feb 16 11:19:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 16 Feb 2001 19:19:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 56372 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 19:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Feb 2001 19:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 19:19:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ltucker@rt66.com Received: from [10.1.2.28] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2001 19:18:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:18:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 Message-ID: <96jueu+dlmh@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <22.11d0dae4.27bad3ed@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 894 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.206.85.39 From: ltucker@rt66.com RJCroxton@a... wrote: > I know that I enjoyed reading MM #1 and am looking forward to #2. I > want to thank both Gord and Lyle for their contributions to TALES > FROM THE ATTIC #6. Looking forward to #6! I'll be posting a review of #5 in a bit (which sports a wonderful THE CLAW cover by Gordon!). > The Fighting Yank art that he sent me is one of the best pieces of > art I ever seen and Lyle has sent some beautiful art for my fanzine. Well, what an extraordinarily kind thing to say, Richard! Thanks very much - I'm glad you like it - Bob and I are rather proud of that Yank piece (and we ain't *yanking* no one's chain, either!). > TALES FROM THE ATTIC > Copies are $4 each postpaid. And if ya love Golden Age comics, ya won't be disappointed! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Feb 16 11:24:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 16 Feb 2001 19:24:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20791 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 19:24:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2001 19:24:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mq.egroups.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 19:24:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ltucker@rt66.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2001 19:24:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:24:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 Message-ID: <96jup9+ico9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <96fnjc+56np@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 597 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.206.85.39 From: ltucker@rt66.com flash14221@y... wrote: > **** Yes, that is my intention. I too like BIG pictures where > warrented. Good news, indeed! I don't want to say I need to subscribe to the LARGE PRINT edition of Midnite Masquerader (ala Reader's Digest), but a good-sized illo is always appreciated by these squinty old eyes! > I always liked the idea of add ins etc. Issue #2 will have a > FOLD OUT in the " GIRLS OF THE COMICS !" feature! Too cool, Gord! Looking forward to it! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From RJCroxton@aol.com Fri Feb 16 12:40:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 16 Feb 2001 20:40:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23341 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 20:40:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2001 20:40:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.8) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 20:40:41 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.69.113e5c29 (2527) for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:40:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <69.113e5c29.27beea33@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:40:19 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: REVIEW: Midnite Masquerader #1 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/16/2001 1:35:52 PM Central Standard Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > RJCroxton@a... wrote: > > > I know that I enjoyed reading MM #1 and am looking forward to #2. I > > want to thank both Gord and Lyle for their contributions to TALES > > FROM THE ATTIC #6. > > Looking forward to #6! I'll be posting a review of #5 in a bit > (which sports a wonderful THE CLAW cover by Gordon!). > > > The Fighting Yank art that he sent me is one of the best pieces of > > art I ever seen and Lyle has sent some beautiful art for my fanzine. > > Well, what an extraordinarily kind thing to say, Richard! Thanks > very much - I'm glad you like it - Bob and I are rather proud of that > Yank piece (and we ain't *yanking* no one's chain, either!). > > > TALES FROM THE ATTIC > > Copies are $4 each postpaid. > > And if ya love Golden Age comics, ya won't be disappointed! > > --lyle tucker > Thanks Lyle. TFTA #6 is in the final stages, for once I will have a issue done early instead of the last minute. #6 is on sale March 15. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From DocV@Prodigy.net Fri Feb 16 18:42:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 02:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 83247 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 02:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 02:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.77) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 03:43:33 -0000 Received: from [63.253.76.132] (A070-0132.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.76.132]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1H2gRX137800 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:42:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200102170242.f1H2gRX137800@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:44:47 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Bob B. wrote: > It was Joe Maneely who died in 1957 - killed by a subway train in a freak > accident Following the Atlas implosion of Spring/1957 Joe Maneely was busting his ass securing work from a wide variety of sources. He was taking western work from Charlton, he ventured back to the humor magazine genre and started on the ground floor with CRACKED along with a handful of other Atlas alumni, he was taking on sci-fi work at National in HOUSE OF SECRETS, HOUSE OF MYSTERY, TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED and crime in GANGBUSTERS. This National work is very different from the last Atlas work he did. This was in a lush, detailed style harkening back to the very early 1950's. His late Atlas work was rushed, and full of shortcuts. All at the same time he was continuing to turn in post-implosion cover art and Two-Gun Kid story art for Stan Lee. Add to this mix a newly launched syndicated strip with Stan Lee called MRS. LYONS' CUBS which debuted in early 1958. On June 7, 1958, Joe headed home after a night of probable drinking with other artists including John Severin . Joe took a commuter train from Penn Station into New Jersey, where he lived with his wife and 3 young daughters. Somewhere along the way he slipped while walking between cars and was killed instantly. Doc V. From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Feb 16 20:03:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 04:03:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 83175 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 04:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 04:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO f19.egroups.com) (10.1.2.136) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 04:03:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.100] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2001 04:03:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:03:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Message-ID: <96kt5r+aroq@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102170242.f1H2gRX137800@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1922 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.12 From: flash14221@yahoo.com - > Following the Atlas implosion of Spring/1957 Joe Maneely was busting his ass > securing work from a wide variety of sources. He was taking western work > from Charlton, he ventured back to the humor magazine genre and started on > the ground floor with CRACKED along with a handful of other Atlas alumni, he > was taking on sci-fi work at National in HOUSE OF SECRETS, HOUSE OF MYSTERY, > TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED and crime in GANGBUSTERS. This National work is > very different from the last Atlas work he did. This was in a lush, > detailed style harkening back to the very early 1950's. His late Atlas work > was rushed, and full of shortcuts. All at the same time he was continuing > to turn in post-implosion cover art and Two-Gun Kid story art for Stan Lee. ** Other than THE BLACK KNIGHT, which was inspired, beautiful work, the only other Joe Maneely work I've seen was a few SUB-MARINER covers. Did he do any other series work? > Add to this mix a newly launched syndicated strip with Stan Lee called MRS. > LYONS' CUBS which debuted in early 1958. On June 7, 1958, Joe headed home > after a night of probable drinking with other artists including John Severin > . Joe took a commuter train from Penn Station into New Jersey, where he > lived with his wife and 3 young daughters. Somewhere along the way he > slipped while walking between cars and was killed instantly. > > Doc V. **** I understand that in those days he had no insurance etc. and his family was left destitute. I was recently communicating with Fandom founder, and Editor Emeritus from ALTER EGO ( He edited two issues of the original series!) Ronn Foss, and he was surprised to hear about Joe. Like many fans, he had just noticed that his work had tapered off and stopped. What a shame that he was not around for the MARVEL EXPLOSION! He would have given Jack Kirby a run for his money! Just imagine! Gord From DocV@Prodigy.net Fri Feb 16 21:20:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 05:20:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1173 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 05:20:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 05:20:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.77) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 05:20:50 -0000 Received: from [63.253.85.5] (A080-1021.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.85.5]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1H5KlX176272 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:20:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200102170520.f1H5KlX176272@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:23:05 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Gord asked: > ** Other than THE BLACK KNIGHT, which was inspired, beautiful work, the only > other Joe Maneely work I've seen was a few SUB-MARINER covers. Did he do any > other series work? Check out YELLOW CLAW #1 (Oct/56). Conceived by Stan Lee, scripted by Al Feldstein (the only Atlas work he ever did) and pencilled and inked by Joe Maneely. The art is gorgeous. Delicate yet intricate. Maneely was perfect for the Fu Manchu knock-off and left after one issue turning the feature over to Jack Kirby who turned it into a sci-fi adventure series. Joe Maneely was the Atlas equivalent of a Jack Kirby workhorse. What Jack was for Stan in the 1960's. Joe was for Stan in the 1950's. Whenever there was a new western feature to launch, Joe would launch it, do the first few issues and turn it over to someone else while frequently doing most of the covers. This is most evident in RINGO KID and WYATT EARP. > **** I understand that in those days he had no insurance etc. and his > family was left destitute. Yes. The family never recovered. Joe's daughter wrote me a "What If?" monologue detailing her feelings about what it was like growing up without a father and what a profound effect his death had on her life and her family. It'll see print eventually accompanying a Maneely article I haven't written yet, possibly for CBA. > I was recently communicating with Fandom founder, and Editor Emeritus > from ALTER EGO ( He edited two issues of the original series!) Ronn > Foss, and he was surprised to hear about Joe. Like many fans, he had > just noticed that his work had tapered off and stopped. What a shame > that he was not around for the MARVEL EXPLOSION! He would have given > Jack Kirby a run for his money! Just imagine! He died just as the pre-hero era was a-borning. His last (drawn, not published) work for Stan Lee was in TWO-GUN KID #44 (Oct/58) and the stories have "T" job numbers of T-19 and T-35. These are pre-hero designations corresponding with Kirby and Ditko's sci-fi return to Marvel in STRANGE WORLDS #1 (Dec/58) sporting stories with early "T" job #'s. He died as Marvel was being incubated. He would have been a large part of the Marvel Universe and Marvel Comics of the 1960's would have been possibly drastically different. Kirby surely on FF but Maneely on Spider-Man? Possibly. With Maneely turning out score after score of stories perhaps Ditko may have been squeezed out or down a rung. Maybe the opportunity for Spidey or Dr. Strange wouldn't have presented itself. Who knows? Doc V. From bbush@mmcable.com Fri Feb 16 22:48:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bbush@mmcable.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 06:48:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 58896 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 06:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 06:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.mmcable.com) (24.94.163.50) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 07:49:54 -0000 Received: from pumpkin.mmcable.com ([65.26.231.30]) by mail3.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:46:10 -0600 Message-ID: <01b101c098ad$3cc23aa0$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> Reply-To: "b bush" To: References: <69.113e5c29.27beea33@aol.com> Subject: another fanzine editor introduction Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:45:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: bbush@mmcable.com From: "b bush" Greetings all! I've been on vacation for a couple of weeks and now just getting caught up on some of the fanzine talk. Well, i'll intrioduce myself. I'm Bart Bush, 50, comic book retailer for the past 27 years and fanzine follower since the mid 1960's. All the G.B. Love discussion got me digging out my RBCC's, which I started at #44, April 1966, when circulation was a mere 940 copies. It was indeed, the RBCC that got me seriously collecting. Finally a place to buy and sell old stuff! After that my life was never the same, having been totally hooked on the four color hobby. In June of 1968 I began editing/publishing a MONTHLY club-zine (fanzine of sorts) for the Oklahoma comic collecting group, OAF. (Oklahoma Alliance of Fans) My first issue was #15, all ditto, 38 pages, and a circulation of 45 copies. Most issues were 30-50 pages, some offset covers with art by Al Williamson, Vaughn Bode, Reed Crandall, and others. By the end of my tenure, #36, in the Summer of 1970, I had publish OAF monthly, now with a circulation of 115 ( still ditto) copies. The amount of hours I cranked on the ditto machine, the smell of spirit fluid, the messy purple dittos as well as all the collation for each months issue is still intoxicating in my mind. I musta been nutz! Also FAT #13 ( the only issue) came out about that time, too. I had plans for a horror zine THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT, and a solo zine on LUGOSI, but they never made it to press. Well, after my OAF involvement, i went on to publish COMIC DETECTIVE, for three issues in 1970-73. Then I published 6 issues of THE HARVEY COLLECTOR, based on Harvey comics and their characters. Of recent note, i revived OAF, with #54 a few years ago, and publish a issue or two each year. #63 came out last year. I also publish a fanzine THE MERRIWELL READER, which devotes each issue to printing a scarce Frank Merriwell story from 1890's, as well as other Merriwelliana. Fanzines are still fun for me. Subject matter changes, but the fun of shareing is still there! And I'm proud to say I own copies of The Comic-Collector #1, ( 1961) Alter Ego #1 and 2 ( the ditto issues), and one VERY RARE and unappreciated gem from 1961..SKYBIRDS #2 which is a Ron Haydock ditto zine with a color ditto cover of the JLA. Also featues a comic book article by Jim Harmon! The whole thing pretty much bashes the DC Secret Origin Annual #1...and how it could have been a better origin issue! Very Interesting points of view for fans in 1961 !!! Well, I'll shut up for now. But I'm sure I'll have more to say soon. Bart From jgjensen@uniontel.net Sat Feb 17 07:00:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 15:00:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 36379 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 15:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 15:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 15:00:48 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod72.uniontel.net [209.94.180.82]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1HF4ao22037 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:04:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00b201c098ea$a21aabc0$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:05:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hey Dr. V., I have a lot of Baker stories and have been living in the past apparently and did not know that Baker died alot later than my old WW of American Comic says, and it says 1956. Do you have the obit, I would be interested in that, that one you had for Joe Maneely was great, I never knew that. If I ever have the money I would like to get the new Who's Who from Jerry, this would probably help. I was in the process awile back of putting together and index of Baker, and could use the later Colletta data, and would be interested in picking up issues on Ebay. Jon Jensen Editor of Clock and Daggar listed in the Fanzine list ( much to my surprise and I appreciate that). Have a few of the previous issues of Comic Blasts our first effort in the 60's to add to the list, who do I contact? -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo To: comicbookfanzines-L Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker >-- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > >Jon wrote: > >> Hi, all in reguards to the list of Baker/Colletta, colabaration on these >> books listed, isn't it kind of late for Baker doing these, as I believe he >> died in 1957 or so. I do not think there was that big a backlog of art >> after he died. Any thoughts? > >No backlog, Jon. 1957 is a date quoted incorrectly for years. He died >closer to 1963 with his very last work being that Colletta "shop" work, I >believe. > >Doc V. > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Feb 17 09:36:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 17:36:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 52993 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 17:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 17:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 17:36:30 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.27.118dcbad (4210) for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:36:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27.118dcbad.27c0108e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:36:14 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/17/01 10:01:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: > I have a lot of Baker stories and have been living in the past apparently > and did not know that Baker died alot later than my old WW of American Comic > says, and it says 1956. Do you have the obit, I would be interested in > Well, as much as I hope that Doc has a Baker Obit, last i knew no one knew the exact date... the 1963 date came from Vince Colletta (to tie him back to this), who mentioned Baker dying while style working for him. I've looked for the Baker obit unsuccessfuly , but if you want to look some more, please do! "Clarence Matthew Baker" is the name to look for... Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ogden@csd.com Sat Feb 17 09:40:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 17:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 79430 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 17:40:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 17:40:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 17:40:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.30] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2001 17:40:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:40:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Message-ID: <96md1g+lak3@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <00b201c098ea$a21aabc0$02000003@preferred-cust> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 499 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.192.234 From: "Steve Ogden" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jonathan G Jensen" wrote: Have a few of the previous issues of Comic Blasts our first effort in the 60's to add to the list, who do I contact? Any updates for the fanzine list can be directed to Steve Ogden (AKA: fanzinelover) at ogden@csd.com. I am always trying to improve this list! Are there any suggestions/criticisms/improvements that anyone cares to make? I'd like to make this list as complete as possible! Thanks. --Steve Ogden From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Feb 17 13:15:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 21:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27851 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 21:15:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 21:15:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2001 21:15:58 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf18.rt66.com [206.206.85.38]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13825 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:15:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A8EEA81.78B9A78D@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:17:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Review: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Richard Croxton puts this out with excellent assists from Bill Nolan. Each issue is $4 apiece, and they're well worth it. Each mag reprints obscure strips from the Golden Age, as well as featuring articles on the history of some of them, plus reviews of comics past and present. This issue begins what will hopefully be a much apprec- iated trend - reprints in full color! This is a really nice improvement over the former b & w reprints. While it might take a bit to get used to the obvious fact that these pages are copies of pages printed out by a computer (therefor not as crisp as the repro offered by some mags), and that the color is sometimes a bit muddy (something Richard promises to fix by Issue #6), once the reader has overcome these hurdles the issue is nothing if not fun. I also appreciated the heavier stock paper that was used for a cover this time around. #5 sports an excellently true-to-the-era depiction of Charles Biro's "The Claw", the hideous villain hovering gigantically over a New York City harborscape with bolts of lightning raining down from his gnarly hands. Drawn by none other than Gordon Green, this piece excellently evokes the Golden Age feel and makes for a striking cover. The comics start off with two strips of Tony DiPreta's, "Zippo" (no relation to the late Bill Griffith's "Zippy," though perhaps just as wacky in it's way). The repro on both of these little gems are excellent, and if this is how future issues will be, I am anxiously awaiting their release. I *love* color repro, and this is definitely on a par with some of the more professional output out there. The two stories are a lot of fun and the artwork more striking than I recall seeing of other DiPreta's work (an artist I'm barely familar with). Zippo is definitely one of the odder creations of the Golden Era - if you're not familiar with his particular gim- mick, you'll get a hoot when you see these. Gordon Green then presents a rather nice and nicely illustrated history of The Claw. I learned quite a few things that I hadn't known - always the sign of a good article. And how could an article about The Claw not be followed by a reprint strip of this selfsame character? It couldn't! So, we are treated to a two lovely Bob Wood CLAW shorts. (That sentence just doesn't sound right...) The repro is a bit muddy on these, but not enough to detract from the fun. The last two reprint stories in the book are of 13 and Jinx (yes, *them's* the heroes' names), and Nightro, the Streamlined Robin- Hood. (Don't feel too bad if you're not overly familiar with these guys - I doubt too many people are!). Both stories are well drawn and a lot of fun - the only drawback is that the repro on the final story is a bit too murky for easy reading in some panels. The issue rounds out with three sizeable reviews: "Sensation Comics" #57 (1946), "Detective Comics" #372 (1968) -- both ably recounted by Steve Chung -- and "The First" #1 (2000 - I think), nicely recapped by Jennifer Contino. I really like the idea of reviewing comics from the Golden, Silver and Modern Era in sequence. For ordering purposes, Richard can be reached at: RJCroxton@aol.com I truly think this mag is a bargain for the price - do yourself a favor and pick up at least this latest ish - I really don't think you'd be disappointed. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From DocV@Prodigy.net Sat Feb 17 15:09:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 17 Feb 2001 23:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 64002 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2001 23:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2001 23:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.103) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 00:10:24 -0000 Received: from [63.253.85.50] (A080-1066.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.85.50]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1HN9Hi21372 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:09:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200102172309.f1HN9Hi21372@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:11:38 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Steve Rowe wrote: > Well, as much as I hope that Doc has a Baker Obit, last i knew no one knew the > exact date... the 1963 date came from Vince Colletta (to tie him back to > this), who mentioned Baker dying while style working for him. > I've looked for the Baker obit unsuccessfuly , but if you want to look some > more, please do! The only Clarence Baker in the SS archives that come close to matching are one born in 1919 and dying in 1966 (in Alabama) and one born in 1919 and dying in 1961 with a SS # originally issued in South Carolina. There is a 1911-1963 Clarence Baker who had a SS # issued in Oklahoma. Do any of these sound familiar? Doc V. From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Feb 17 18:56:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 18 Feb 2001 02:56:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 82286 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2001 02:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2001 02:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 02:56:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.112] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2001 02:56:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:56:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: another fanzine editor introduction Message-ID: <96ndl3+5s7b@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <01b101c098ad$3cc23aa0$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1310 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.32 From: flash14221@yahoo.com WELCOME to the group! > Well, i'll intrioduce myself. I'm Bart Bush, 50, comic book retailer for the > past 27 years and fanzine follower since the mid 1960's. *** I think a few of us are in that age zone, at least we remember the Silver Age! It was indeed, the RBCC that got me > seriously collecting. **** Ditto! > The amount of hours I cranked on the ditto machine, the smell of spirit > fluid, the messy purple dittos as well as all the collation for each months > issue is still intoxicating in my mind. I musta been nutz! It does get in your blood! Fanzines are still fun for me. Subject matter changes, but the fun of > shareing is still there! ******** Therin is the secret behind the lure of the Fanzine! > > And I'm proud to say I own copies of The Comic-Collector #1, ( 1961) Alter > Ego #1 and 2 ( the ditto issues), and one VERY RARE and unappreciated gem > from 1961..SKYBIRDS #2 > which is a Ron Haydock ditto zine with a color ditto cover of the JLA. > Also featues a comic book article by Jim Harmon! The whole thing pretty > much bashes the DC Secret Origin Annual #1...and how it could have been a > better origin issue! Very Interesting points of view for fans in 1961 !!! > ***** I'd love to get ahold of any available back issues, what's available? Gord From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sat Feb 17 21:54:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 18 Feb 2001 05:54:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 74647 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2001 05:54:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2001 05:54:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 05:54:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.73] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2001 05:54:16 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 05:54:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: another fanzine editor introduction Message-ID: <96no22+bta9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <96ndl3+5s7b@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1780 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.34.114 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Sharing is definately part of it. But when I was a 15 year old fanzine editor I think having an enormous ego was also part of it. Perhaps we can agree that the process of writing or any creative expression is good for one to do. In fact research shows that people who self express get fewer sore throats. Fact. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., flash14221@y... wrote: > > WELCOME to the group! > > > > Well, i'll intrioduce myself. I'm Bart Bush, 50, comic book retailer > for the > > past 27 years and fanzine follower since the mid 1960's. > *** I think a few of us are in that age zone, at least we remember the > Silver Age! > It was indeed, the RBCC > that got me > > seriously collecting. > **** Ditto! > > > The amount of hours I cranked on the ditto machine, the smell of > spirit > > fluid, the messy purple dittos as well as all the collation for > each months > > issue is still intoxicating in my mind. I musta been nutz! > > It does get in your blood! > > Fanzines are still fun for me. Subject matter changes, but the fun > of > > shareing is still there! > > ******** Therin is the secret behind the lure of the Fanzine! > > > > And I'm proud to say I own copies of The Comic-Collector #1, ( 1961) > Alter > > Ego #1 and 2 ( the ditto issues), and one VERY RARE and > unappreciated gem > > from 1961..SKYBIRDS #2 > > which is a Ron Haydock ditto zine with a color ditto cover of the > JLA. > > Also featues a comic book article by Jim Harmon! The whole thing > pretty > > much bashes the DC Secret Origin Annual #1...and how it could have > been a > > better origin issue! Very Interesting points of view for fans in > 1961 !!! > > > ***** I'd love to get ahold of any available back issues, what's > available? > Gord From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Feb 18 06:10:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 18 Feb 2001 14:10:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 85710 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2001 14:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2001 14:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 15:11:47 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.c6.1177d062 (4443) for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:10:38 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 02/17/2001 6:10:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, DocV@Prodigy.net writes: << The only Clarence Baker in the SS archives that come close to matching are one born in 1919 and dying in 1966 (in Alabama) and one born in 1919 and dying in 1961 with a SS # originally issued in South Carolina. There is a 1911-1963 Clarence Baker who had a SS # issued in Oklahoma. Do any of these sound familiar? >> Yeah, I got stuck there too. I can't recall his birth year, nor do I know what state he came from... It's always possible that he isn't in the SSDI, maybe he never paid into the social security system? IF he died in NYC (and he may have) maybe the NYTimes index would list an obit (note: I live near no library with a NYTimes index). Again apologizes to the list for this off-topic post... Steven Rowe From JerryBails@aol.com Sun Feb 18 10:02:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 18 Feb 2001 18:02:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 65355 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2001 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2001 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Feb 2001 19:03:07 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id w.f8.76ef102 (4200); Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:01:35 EST Subject: From fanzines to the Worls-Wide Web To: cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Transferred to the chat list and the fanzines list -- (Please excuse me if you are seeing this twice.) (Bob Highes and I were discussing the desire that good computer programmers have in involving the end-user in the design of the interface between new software and the human being who is going to use the program.) >In a message dated 2/17/01 12:25:09 PM, bobhughes@ttlc.net writes: Bob Hughes [a computer programmer] wrote: >>I keep telling them [non-programmers]. "Get a >>piece of paper and draw what you want the screen to look like and I'll >>take it from there." But they won't do it. >> Jerry responded: >You may be talking to aural (at least, non-visual) people. Ask them >questions. They are probably not visual thinkers. (Check if they read >maps. Many probably prefer oral directions. That doesn't mean they can't learn >to read maps, but they have a way of getting around town that involves less >anxiety.) In a message dated 2/18/01 11:33:47 AM, Bob Hughes responded: >There is no more horrible experience than putting a map reader and a >"landmarks" person in the same car together and try to get some place... >Obviously our school system does not teach the right basic skills. >Everybody should be taught how to draw and how to listen and how to speak. >After that we can move on to reading and writing. > Jerry responds: I'm being a bit facetious, but I'm grateful that many of us learned to speak before going to school. Otherwise, we might have a nation of stutterers. About learning to draw -- small child I've ever seen has as much natural inclination to draw as to speak. The trouble is the too many schools (and society generally) kill the incentive to draw, so that few of us wind up as adults with any inclination to keep up this mode of self-expression. My youngest son, Kirk, at the age of seven, had an intuitive comprehension of perspective that was revealing in his numerous drawings of Detroit street scenes. His drawings caught the eye of one of my former students who was teaching at an art school in Detroit's Cultural Center. She asked and received permission to put on an art exhibit of Kirk's drawings for her college-level students to study. Does Kirk still draw? No, one of his teachers repeatedly badmouthed the subject of some of his drawings and killed his interest in art. All our encouragement couldn't correct the damage that teacher had done over the course of a year. Of course, Kirk had other problems with his OCD, but a sensitive teacher who had the time, freedom and understanding of human variation could have encouraged the natural development of this shy boy rather than following some study plan designed to instruct 35-40 eight-year-olds in a lockstep manner. My point is that each child deserves to be responded to as an individual that has a unique cognitive style -- i.e., a way of approaching and learning about the world and developing her ability to express herself. America's unwillingness to invest in each child's uniqueness is wasteful and appalling to me. No elementary school teacher should have more than a dozen students at most. The beauty of Comics Fandom and fanzines has always been that it provided an additional creative outlet for individuals who could not generally find such an outlet in normal channels. Back in the mid-1960s, I had the delightful opportunity to go on educational TV in Detroit. A wonderful teacher was using the medium to reach 5th graders about creative writing and drawing. She invited me to introduce to Detroit children the concept of their own fanzine. We sat in front of a huge poster of Spider-man and laid out the possibilities of all sorts of subjects that could become the basis of a youngster's creative publishing efforts. I feel confident we did some good even if we showed just one youngster what the possibilities were. Today, the WWW provides even more opportunities to break out of the lockstep of formal education. The Internet (not just the Web) is a wellspring of possibilities for eager growing minds thirsting for something not provided by formal education. By joining a list, creating one's own Web page, or writing to like-minded friends around the world, we participate in the greatest breakthrough in human opportunity since the invention of cheap printing. Revel it in. It will ultimately change all mankind. Bestest, Jerry From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Feb 18 19:29:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 19 Feb 2001 03:29:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 93981 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2001 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.egroups.com) (10.1.10.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 03:28:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ltucker@rt66.com Received: from [10.1.2.33] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2001 03:28:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 03:28:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: another fanzine editor introduction Message-ID: <96q3th+boio@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <01b101c098ad$3cc23aa0$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 976 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.206.85.38 From: ltucker@rt66.com Glad to have ya with us, Bart! You sound like you've definitely gotten your fingers nice and ink-ridden over the years with all of your hands-on experience! (I *love* the fact that you called the Oklahoman zine, OAF - Hah! Nice sense of humor). I don't know if you read one of my earlier posts, but I'm on a wild goose chase to try and collect scans of all the covers of all the fanzines which've been put out over the years (See? You're not the only one who's nutz!) If you happen to have a scanner and could possibly provide me with some scans of those early zines you have, I can't tell you how appreciative I'd be! My main source so far has been eBay and several generous listers from here - if I'm ever going to even come *close* to reaching my goal, I'll need all the help I can get. Anyways, looking forward to further interaction with ya! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From RJCroxton@aol.com Sun Feb 18 22:33:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 19 Feb 2001 06:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 97889 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 06:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2001 06:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 06:33:23 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.66.c48fc13 (2523) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:33:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <66.c48fc13.27c2182e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:33:18 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Review: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #5 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 02/17/2001 3:56:17 PM Central Standard Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > > Richard Croxton puts this out with excellent assists from > Bill Nolan. Each issue is $4 apiece, and they're well worth > it. Each mag reprints obscure strips from the Golden Age, > as well as featuring articles on the history of some of them, > plus reviews of comics past and present. > > This issue begins what will hopefully be a much apprec- > iated trend - reprints in full color! This is a really nice > improvement over the former b & w reprints. While it > might take a bit to get used to the obvious fact that these > pages are copies of pages printed out by a computer > (therefor not as crisp as the repro offered by some mags), > and that the color is sometimes a bit muddy (something > Richard promises to fix by Issue #6), once the reader has > overcome these hurdles the issue is nothing if not fun. I > also appreciated the heavier stock paper that was used for > a cover this time around. > > #5 sports an excellently true-to-the-era depiction of Charles > Biro's "The Claw", the hideous villain hovering gigantically > over a New York City harborscape with bolts of lightning > raining down from his gnarly hands. Drawn by none other > than Gordon Green, this piece excellently evokes the Golden > Age feel and makes for a striking cover. > > The comics start off with two strips of Tony DiPreta's, "Zippo" > (no relation to the late Bill Griffith's "Zippy," though perhaps > just as wacky in it's way). The repro on both of these little > gems are excellent, and if this is how future issues will be, I am > anxiously awaiting their release. I *love* color repro, and this > is definitely on a par with some of the more professional output > out there. The two stories are a lot of fun and the artwork more > striking than I recall seeing of other DiPreta's work (an artist I'm > barely familar with). Zippo is definitely one of the odder creations > of the Golden Era - if you're not familiar with his particular gim- > mick, you'll get a hoot when you see these. > > Gordon Green then presents a rather nice and nicely illustrated > history of The Claw. I learned quite a few things that I hadn't > known - always the sign of a good article. > > And how could an article about The Claw not be followed by a > reprint strip of this selfsame character? It couldn't! So, we are > treated to a two lovely Bob Wood CLAW shorts. (That sentence > just doesn't sound right...) The repro is a bit muddy on these, but > not enough to detract from the fun. > > The last two reprint stories in the book are of 13 and Jinx (yes, > *them's* the heroes' names), and Nightro, the Streamlined Robin- > Hood. (Don't feel too bad if you're not overly familiar with > these guys - I doubt too many people are!). Both stories are well > drawn and a lot of fun - the only drawback is that the repro on > the final story is a bit too murky for easy reading in some panels. > > The issue rounds out with three sizeable reviews: "Sensation Comics" > #57 (1946), "Detective Comics" #372 (1968) -- both ably recounted > by Steve Chung -- and "The First" #1 (2000 - I think), nicely recapped > by Jennifer Contino. I really like the idea of reviewing comics from > the Golden, Silver and Modern Era in sequence. > > For ordering purposes, Richard can be reached at: > > RJCroxton@aol.com > > I truly think this mag is a bargain for the price - do yourself a favor > and > pick up at least this latest ish - I really don't think you'd be > disappointed. > > --lyle tucker > Thanks for the great review Lyle. I enjoyed putting that issue together and consider it one of the best I've done, so far. (Wait til you see #6) Unfortunately #5 will be the only full color issue I'll be able to do for the near future. From #6 on the covers will be in color and I'm adding a couple new features called "FIRESIDE CHATS" "LOST TREASURES". Fireside has an interview with Bill Schelly. Treasures will feature reviews on non-comic items, in #6 a review on the Batman Serials by David Luhn. Each future will feature around 30 pages of comics. As soon as I can find an affordable faster way of printing color copies, (perhaps a few more ads?) color once again will make its comeback. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bbush@mmcable.com Mon Feb 19 18:06:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bbush@mmcable.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 02:06:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 35236 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 02:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 02:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.mmcable.com) (24.94.163.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 02:06:39 -0000 Received: from pumpkin.mmcable.com ([65.26.231.30]) by mail4.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:03:56 -0600 Message-ID: <000201c09ae1$4bfa7c40$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> Reply-To: "b bush" To: References: <982583461.138.30000.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: fanzine ramblings... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:34:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: bbush@mmcable.com From: "b bush" Lyle Tucker wrote: If you happen to have a scanner and could possibly provide me with some scans of those early zines you have, I can't tell you how appreciative I'd be! Bart here: No scanner in my possession, but I do have a digital camera. Will that work or do you want the scanned look? I certainly would be glad to eventually tackle a project like that in the next few months. This fanzine list has gotten me all fired up over those old zines of yesteryear, and as I'm finding time, I'm digging out those unsorted boxes of zines and hope to be able to bring up interesting topics for the list to ponder. Is there a time-line listing of all the fanzines? I assume the McGeehans have some sort of master list or perhaps Bill Schelly. I also have large collection of 1940's-50's Science Fiction fanzines that have some comic book jargon inside like discussing the latest issue of Planet Comics. reading thru those SF zines is tedious due to all the off-subject ramblings that go on for pages. But now thjat there is a list for me to post my findings, I'll take notes as I go thru them again. And I need RBCC #63 and 66 for my collection. Anyone got em for sale/trade? More later. From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Feb 19 20:18:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 04:18:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 70705 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 04:18:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 04:18:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 05:19:53 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.60.bc07fe9 (17086) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:18:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60.bc07fe9.27c34a25@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:18:45 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] fanzine ramblings... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/19/01 9:14:13 PM, bbush@mmcable.com writes: >I also have large collection of 1940's-50's Science Fiction fanzines that >have some comic book jargon inside like discussing the latest issue of >Planet Comics. reading thru those SF zines is tedious due to all the >off-subject ramblings that go on for pages. But now thjat there is a list >for me to post my findings, I'll take notes as I go thru them again. > This will be greatly appreciated by yours truly. Planet Comics was one of the few Golden Age comics that carried a letters page, but didn't carry home addresses, as I recall. (The s-f fans would've connected throgh s-f magazines and conventions.) As I recall only Target and Blue Bolt Comics had some home addresses of fans. Maybe a few in Daredevil, although those letters seemed phoney to me. I'd like seeing what s-f fans had to say about comics. I did enjoy Planet Comics. Lost World was a favorite of mine. Bestest, Jerry From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Feb 19 20:38:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 04:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15378 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 04:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 04:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ef.egroups.com) (10.1.2.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 04:38:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.126] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2001 04:38:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:38:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: fanzine ramblings... Message-ID: <96sscq+8lne@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000201c09ae1$4bfa7c40$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1369 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.32 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "b bush" wrote: > Lyle Tucker wrote: > > If you happen to have a scanner and could possibly provide > me with some scans of those early zines you have, I can't tell you > how appreciative I'd be! > > Bart here: > > No scanner in my possession, but I do have a digital camera. Will that work > or do you want the scanned look? I certainly would be glad to eventually > tackle a project like that in the next few months. **** Digital cameras just don't have the resolution of a scanner. Good as they are for most photos they don't do justice to zines, especialy dittoed ones. Actualy, a good scanner can be picked up for $50 or so after rebates! > This fanzine list has gotten me all fired up over those old zines of > yesteryear, and as I'm finding time, I'm digging out those unsorted boxes of > zines and hope to be able to bring up interesting topics for the list to > ponder. Is there a time-line listing of all the fanzines? *****Check out the FANZINE LISTS in the files section! Great data! > for me to post my findings, I'll take notes as I go thru them again. ***** I get the feeling that NOTHING is to trivial for us on the list! The audience is voracious! > > And I need RBCC #63 and 66 for my collection. Anyone got em for sale/trade? > ********* Maybe Jim Van Hise can help out. Best, Gord From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 19 21:32:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 05:32:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24306 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.7) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.dd.106e7be5 (18555) for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:32:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:32:07 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine ramblings... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10506 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/01 8:39:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: > > And I need RBCC #63 and 66 for my collection. Anyone got em for > sale/trade? > > > The oldest RBCC which I have any copies of for sale is #107. -- JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tonyisa@ohio.net Tue Feb 20 05:09:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 13:09:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 92110 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 13:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 13:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 14:10:13 -0000 Received: from zar (ppp-g28.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.188]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id NAA15496; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:01:10 GMT for œ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:01:10 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010220073940.00699b70@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:39:40 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: another fanzine editor introduction In-Reply-To: <96q3th+boio@eGroups.com> References: <01b101c098ad$3cc23aa0$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella At 03:28 AM 2/19/2001 -0000, Lyle wrote: >(I *love* the fact that you called the Oklahoman zine, OAF - Hah! Nice sense >of humor).<<< Fandom has usually had the grace to take itself somewhat less than completely serious. Remember TISOS (The Illegitimate Sons of Superman)? When I started a comics club in Cleveland in the early 1970s--a year or so prior to my moving to NYC to work for Marvel--I called it the Graphic Arts Society because I knew it would be abbreviated to GAS. To my delight, the obvious jokes were made and made frequently. Tony Isabella ********************************* Tony's Tips: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Tue Feb 20 10:14:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 18:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 43045 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 18:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 18:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 18:14:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.10.96] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2001 18:14:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:12:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Near Mint Message-ID: <96uc29+esd1@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010220073940.00699b70@mail.ohio.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 290 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.12.68 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Just checked the fanzine list in the files postings for the total number of great Near Mint fanzines that were published by Al Dellinges back in the 80's. The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped publishing?? Peter Hansen From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue Feb 20 11:03:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 19:03:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 81762 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 19:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 19:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 19:03:29 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.42.10ef0074 (16338) for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:03:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42.10ef0074.27c4197f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:03:27 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Near Mint To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: > The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > publishing?? > ---------- Peter, I have one with The Rocketeer and Bettie Page, in her stripes, on the cover somewhere around here, is that one of those? If not, what issue # is that please? :o) --steve cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Feb 20 11:38:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 19:38:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 48711 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 19:38:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 19:38:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 20:39:16 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.9f.11729a3a (4200) for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9f.11729a3a.27c4219d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:38:05 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Near Mint To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: >Just checked the fanzine list in the files postings for the total >number of great Near Mint fanzines that were published by Al >Dellinges back in the 80's. The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, >and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped >publishing?? > >Peter Hansen > In addition to Near Mint, there were a number of one-shots put out by Alex. Drop a note to Alex at 211 Willow St., Milbrae, CA 94030 He probably has some extra copies lying around. He could certainly use the mail to cheer him up. Encourage him to get wired. For his sake and ours. Bestest, Jerry From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Tue Feb 20 13:31:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 20 Feb 2001 21:31:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 55262 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 21:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2001 21:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 21:31:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.2.25] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2001 21:31:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:31:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Near Mint Message-ID: <96unmv+gvbl@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <42.10ef0074.27c4197f@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 680 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.160 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., AIRBOYO2@A... wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > porthmadog2001ca@y... writes: > > > > The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > > and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > > publishing?? > > ---------- > Peter, > I have one with The Rocketeer and Bettie Page, in her stripes, on the cover > somewhere around here, is that one of those? If not, what issue # is that > please? > :o) > --steve cohen > > Steve The Rocketeer with Betti by Dave Stevens is Near Mint #24. A nice issue with interesting stuff in there. Peter > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Tue Feb 20 16:13:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 00:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9750 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ltucker@rt66.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: fanzine ramblings... Message-ID: <96v159+2car@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000201c09ae1$4bfa7c40$1ee71a41@mmcable.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1140 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.206.85.24 From: ltucker@rt66.com "b bush" wrote: > No scanner in my possession, but I do have a digital camera. Will > that work or do you want the scanned look? I certainly would be >glad to eventually tackle a project like that in the next few months. Hi Bart! Anything you could do to help me with this project would be *greatly* appreciated! A camera shot for color zines, if you can get in nice and tight, would be excellent - if they're b&w covers, a photocopy would probably work better, and then I could scan the photocopy. Whatever works best for you, though, is good to me. > This fanzine list has gotten me all fired up over those old zines of > yesteryear, Pretty neat, huh? I think we've all been digging through some stacks which haven't seen the light of day in awhile. >and as I'm finding time, I'm digging out those unsorted boxes of > zines and hope to be able to bring up interesting topics for the >list to ponder. Excellent - looking forward to future interaction with ya, Bart! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue Feb 20 17:44:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 01:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 89331 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 01:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 01:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta3 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 02:45:33 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.60.bcf0307 (7332) for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:44:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60.bcf0307.27c47774@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:44:20 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Near Mint To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/20/01 4:33:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: > The Rocketeer with Betti by Dave Stevens is Near Mint #24. A nice > issue with interesting stuff in there. > > Peter > ----------------------- Yes, Peter, it is a beauty! I'm just sorry that mine is in one of many boxes of comics and fanzines and so forth in a rented storage facility. Thanks, --steve cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Tue Feb 20 21:21:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 05:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 77754 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 05:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 05:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 05:21:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.23] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2001 05:21:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:21:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Near Mint Message-ID: <96vj97+o0sh@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9f.11729a3a.27c4219d@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 996 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.12 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: **** I've been writing Al for a few months now, Sent him a copy of MM and just generaly conversed. He still has a few of the Alter-Ego # 1-3 reprinta available, I got a set ( Great stuff, loved his take on Roy's Bestest League!). He pretty much stated that he had dropped out because of dissatisfaction with the direction of current comics and fandom. I encouraged him that there was still a core of old timers ( probebly about as many as in the early 60's) who still do care , and would welcome and value his participation! In addition to Near Mint, there were a number of one-shots put out by Alex. ****Great indexes to Joe Kubert, and as I recall Lou Fine and Bob Powel as well! > Drop a note to Alex at 211 Willow St., Milbrae, CA 94030 **** DEFINITELY! > He probably has some extra copies lying around. He could certainly use the > mail to cheer him up. Encourage him to get wired. For his sake and ours. GORD From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Tue Feb 20 23:46:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 07:46:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11298 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 07:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 07:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 07:46:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.2.110] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2001 07:46:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:46:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Near Mint - how many issues?? Message-ID: <96vroc+pgsd@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <96vj97+o0sh@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 101 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.155 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca I still go back to my original question guys. How many issues of Near Mint did Al publish?? Peter From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed Feb 21 04:24:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 12:24:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4108 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 12:24:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 12:24:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 12:24:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.117] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2001 12:24:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:24:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson Message-ID: <970c13+5k14@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A7A452D.9B166F9@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 741 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.108 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Hello-- Joe Brancatelli has, apparently, become a successful travel journalist. Bruce Hershenson, as mentioned, is a big-time poster dealer, and is also, in fact, the fellow behind those neat movie poster reprint trade paperbacks, that have been coming out, during the past few years... A web-search, at any search engine, say, Googe, or Hotbot, shoud turn up many items, for both! Best, Jim Burns --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > Can anyone help me? > I am looking to get in contact with JOE BRANCATELLI, MARTY GREIM, > and BRUCE HERSHENSON. > If anyone would be willing supply me with contact information for > the above, please e-mail me privately at ditko37@h... . Thanks. :) From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed Feb 21 04:32:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 12:32:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20486 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 12:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 12:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 12:32:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.117] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2001 12:32:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:32:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Video Mystery--1976 NY Comic Art Convention (Phil Seuling...) Message-ID: <970cgu+84k6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3022 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.108 From: jameshburns@webtv.net In what now seems, sometimes, like a million years ago...(!) Phil Seuling ran an annual multi-day comic book convention, in New York. Although David Kaler and Bernie Bubnis ran the very first comic book shows in Manhattan (and, perhaps, the United States?), it was Seuling who ran with the ball, and launched a series of fantastic, usually five-day gatherings (centered around the Fourth of July weekend), commencing in the late 1960s. Back in 1976, I had the fun of serving as the convention's "Liason," a title Phil coined, for a gig that basically just entailed making sure all of the guest speakers/programming came off on time. (As I recall, I also emceed a few of the panels.) (There were a BUNCH of terrific people helping Phil run that show: Gwen and Heather Seuling, Jonnie Levas, Ron Forman, Mitch Zykofsky...) Those days were especially sweet for me, marking the time when I was first getting started as a writer. Within weeks, I'd become one of the first group of writers for STARLOG, and within the next couple of years, did articles for some of the comics companies, other mags, and served as a contributing editor to FANTASTIC FILMS. (Ultimately, I served as a contributing editor to Steranko's PREVIEW, and wrote for folks like GENTLEMAN'S QUARTERLY, ESQUIRE, AMERICAN FILM, and TWILIGHT ZONE MAGAZINE. But, that's ANOTHER story...) Anyway, I've finally reached that age where tracking down parts of my past has gained a certain resonance, or, at least, sense of fun (for me, I mean!). And, this, hopefully-- Is where this gets interesting! At the 1976 New York Comic Art Convention, held at the McAlpin Hotel, virtually ALL of the programming--guest speakers, panel discussions, costume cotest--was videotaped by a young (early-to-mid, perhaps, late, twenties, say) group of Canadians. The production seemed to be professional. There were SEVERAL people in the group, and, as I recall, anyway, the equipment was massive... Supposedly, at least, the proceedings were being recorded, to edit down for a Canadian TV special, on conventions, and/or comic books. (My memory also insists that the group was somehow affiliated with the gentleman who published the erstwhile fanzine, CAPTAIN GEORGE'S WHIZZBANG.) My question, for you folks, is if anyone has any idea, of whatever became of this footage? Does anybody here have ANY memory of seeing ANY Canadian lensed comics-special/documentary, that would have been originally released, post late 1976? I'm certain that this is too much to ask for-- :-) But do any fandom veterans have any idea as to who the videographers could have been? Any help/memories/CLUES, as to what that Canadian contingent was all about, would be appreciated! (Actually, as long as I'm on the topic: If anyone here has any photos from that convention, or the 1976 MARVEL CON, or Phil Seuling's 1977 Philadelphia show, or the New York CREATION cons, from '76-78--please let me know!) Thank you for your time! Best, Jim Burns (James H. Burns) From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed Feb 21 06:59:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 14:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 6670 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 14:59:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 14:59:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 14:59:40 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.3a.111c453f (17381) for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:59:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3a.111c453f.27c531cf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:59:27 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10502 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/01 7:28:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, jameshburns@webtv.net writes: > Bruce Hershenson, as mentioned, is a big-time poster dealer, and is also, in > fact, the fellow behind those neat movie poster reprint trade paperbacks, > ---------------- He is, or was ( ? ), also Russ Cochran's son-in-law, at least at one time, according to what I once heard. --steve cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Feb 21 07:26:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 15:26:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 39492 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 15:26:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 15:26:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 15:26:55 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15574 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:26:54 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.43] (fre-33.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.43]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15488 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:26:52 -0600 Message-Id: <200102211526.JAA15488@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson Date: Wed, 21 Feb 01 09:25:53 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >> Bruce Hershenson, as mentioned, is a big-time poster dealer, and is also, in >> fact, the fellow behind those neat movie poster reprint trade paperbacks, >> >---------------- >He is, or was ( ? ), also Russ Cochran's son-in-law, at least at one time, >according to what I once heard. >--steve cohen still is bob From jonesart@ulster.net Wed Feb 21 09:16:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 17:16:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 40040 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 17:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 17:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.20) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 17:14:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12687 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 12:14:04 -0500 Received: from mail1.backend.thebiz.net (HELO mail1.thebiz.net) (172.16.0.179) by mx1.backend.thebiz.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 12:14:04 -0500 Received: (qmail 18297 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2001 12:14:03 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ulster.net) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 12:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3A93F6B5.37A918C6@ulster.net> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:11:17 -0500 Reply-To: jonesart@ulster.net Organization: jje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Video Mystery--1976 NY Comic Art Convention (Phil Seuling...) References: <970cgu+84k6@eGroups.com> From: Jeffrey Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, I think maybe Canadian footage was prevalent then. I recall that in 1973 (maybe) at a conference in Toronto, myself, Bernie Wrightson, Vaughn Bode and Stan Lee were filmed on a panel by Canadian Broadcasting for air time. Jeffrey www.jeffreyjones.com ________________________________ jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: Does anybody here have ANY memory of seeing ANY Canadian lensed comics-special/documentary, that would have been originally released, post late 1976? Thank you for your time! Best, Jim Burns (James H. Burns) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Wed Feb 21 12:17:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 20:17:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 85335 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 20:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 20:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 20:17:05 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf14.rt66.com [206.206.85.34]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18636 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:17:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A9422B8.8542E3E9@rt66.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:19:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 27 References: <982757707.252.41595.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker > From: Tony Isabella > Fandom has usually had the grace to take itself somewhat less than > completely serious. Remember TISOS (The Illegitimate Sons of Superman)? > > When I started a comics club in Cleveland in the early 1970s--a year or so > prior to my moving to NYC to work for Marvel--I called it the Graphic Arts > Society because I knew it would be abbreviated to GAS. To my delight, the > obvious jokes were made and made frequently. Hee hee - good thing your society and OAF never teamed up. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Feb 21 12:42:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 20:42:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 65103 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 20:42:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 20:42:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 20:42:10 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21463 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:42:09 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.164] (ppp23.netimaging.com [208.136.132.164]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21376 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:42:06 -0600 Message-Id: <200102212042.OAA21376@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 27 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 01 14:40:28 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Hee hee - good thing your society and OAF never teamed up. > >--lyle tucker I was a northern OAF - so if I drove then thru Cleveland Ohio on my way to an early Seulingcon in NYC, I would have been an OAF passing GAS? bob From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Feb 21 15:53:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 21 Feb 2001 23:53:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18158 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 23:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2001 23:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 23:43:44 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.a8.116d85dc (3943) for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:43:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:43:16 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/01 10:01:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM writes: > > Bruce Hershenson, as mentioned, is a big-time poster dealer, and is also, > in > > fact, the fellow behind those neat movie poster reprint trade paperbacks, > > > ---------------- > He is, or was ( ? ), also Russ Cochran's son-in-law, at least at one time, > according to what I once heard. > Is it him or Russ Cochran's son, who did the recent Tarzan All-Story reprint? Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Feb 21 18:29:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 02:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4890 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 02:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 02:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r14.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.68) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 03:30:33 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.34.1132fc5b (3319) for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:29:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34.1132fc5b.27c5d371@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:29:05 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Looking For Brancatelli / Greim / Hershenson To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10506 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/01 3:54:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > Is it him or Russ Cochran's son, who did the recent Tarzan All-Story reprint? > Russ's son, John Clayton Cochran (who uses the business name "John Monster")--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pjstef@yahoo.com Thu Feb 22 06:48:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: pjstef@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 14:48:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 65077 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 14:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 14:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 14:47:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pjstef@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.91] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2001 14:47:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:47:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: NY Comic Art Convention (Phil Seuling...) Message-ID: <9738pc+2tek@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <970cgu+84k6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1466 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 12.14.84.2 From: pjstef@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > > (Actually, as long as I'm on the topic: If anyone here has any photos from that convention, or the 1976 MARVEL CON, or Phil Seuling's 1977 Philadelphia show, or the New York CREATION cons, from '76-78--please let me know!) >> My very first comic con was Creation NY Feb 1979. That was fantastic! My big catch was Spidey #18 for $3.50 - a little worn, but still in my collection today. Creation by 1979 was pretty big. I think I paid $5 to get in, which wasn't cheap to a 12 year-old. I remember that by 1985 or so the admission was around $13 or $14. You knew you were paying so much to support all the ballrooms of movie screenings and speakers. Still, it became too expensive to go to Creation. Fred Greenburgh then made a nice niche by bringing back affordable shows under the Great Eastern name. A question: was the success of Creation the major reason Seuling moved the show to Philly? Why was this done? If I recall, the 1977 and 1978 shows were both there, and then Phil may have brought the show back to NY for 1979. By that time, Seuling had 4th of July, and Creation had two big shows in NYC - end of Feb and Thanksgiving weekend (they'd later add a show in August and the Trek shows). I never actually attended an annual Seuling Con, but did make it to one of his monthly "marketplaces" circa 1980. Nice and low key, but tons of books everywhere. Just great! Regards, Paul From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Feb 22 07:42:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 15:42:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 12357 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 15:41:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 15:41:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 15:41:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.109] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2001 15:41:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:41:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Jeffrey Jones/Mark Rindner/(Was Video Mystery--1976 NY Comic Art Convention) Message-ID: <973bv1+766j@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A93F6B5.37A918C6@ulster.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1230 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.116 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Hey, Jeffrey-- 'Good "seeing" you again! (We met--fleetingly!--at a handful of parties, throughout the late '70s (and early '80s?)... Reading your response to my question about the possible Canadian comic convention video-- Brought to mind yet ANOTHER question, that has been niggling me, for a long while! :-) Do you, or does anybody here, have any idea of whatever happened to Mark Rindner (sp)? To those who didn't know him, Mark ran the New York Comics Art Gallery in the mid-to-late '70s, in Manhattan. The Gallery was off of Lexington,either on 58th, or 59th, (around the corner from Bloomingdales, anyway!), and up a flight of stairs, on its building's, second floor. (To the really long-memoried, amongst you, this was the same location that Joe Lihack took over for quite a while, before also opening his store in Grenwich Village, now over on Sullivan Street.) Historically, to the comics field, I suppose, Mark Rindner's Gallery was important in that it was one of the first places to feature original comic art, in at least a quasi-gallery setting... More importanty, I remember Mark as being a pretty nice guy, and have always wondered, what became of him. Thank you for your time! Best, Jim Burns From GSArkell@yahoo.com Thu Feb 22 07:59:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 15:59:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23490 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 15:58:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 15:58:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9602.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.181) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 15:58:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20010222155839.76879.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.171.232.1] by web9602.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:39 PST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] NY Comic Art Convention (Phil Seuling...) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9738pc+2tek@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gary Arkell I just recently got a flyer for a new Creation in King of Prussia, PA Infantino, Steranko, Simonson and Cho are some of the guests --- pjstef@yahoo.com wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > > > > (Actually, as long as I'm on the topic: If anyone here has any > photos from that convention, or the 1976 MARVEL CON, or Phil > Seuling's 1977 Philadelphia show, or the New York CREATION cons, > from '76-78--please let me know!) >> > > My very first comic con was Creation NY Feb 1979. That was fantastic! > > My big catch was Spidey #18 for $3.50 - a little worn, but still in > my collection today. Creation by 1979 was pretty big. I think I paid > $5 to get in, which wasn't cheap to a 12 year-old. I remember that by > > 1985 or so the admission was around $13 or $14. You knew you were > paying so much to support all the ballrooms of movie screenings and > speakers. Still, it became too expensive to go to Creation. Fred > Greenburgh then made a nice niche by bringing back affordable shows > under the Great Eastern name. > > A question: was the success of Creation the major reason Seuling > moved the show to Philly? Why was this done? If I recall, the 1977 > and 1978 shows were both there, and then Phil may have brought the > show back to NY for 1979. By that time, Seuling had 4th of July, and > Creation had two big shows in NYC - end of Feb and Thanksgiving > weekend (they'd later add a show in August and the Trek shows). I > never actually attended an annual Seuling Con, but did make it to one > > of his monthly "marketplaces" circa 1980. Nice and low key, but tons > of books everywhere. Just great! > > Regards, > Paul > > ===== REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY DON'T DREAM IT BE HERE Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Thu Feb 22 12:41:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 20:41:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 41594 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 20:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 20:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 20:41:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.106] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2001 20:41:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:41:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Message-ID: <973tif+31dl@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 406 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" I know this is a little off-topic, but I'm sure most of you would find it interesting. There's an interview with Neal Adams in the March 2001 issue of Wired regarding his forthcoming book that discusses his theories of physics, plate tetonics and other related scientific disciplines. It's an extremely interesting piece to anyone who knows Adams or his work and I recommend it highly. - Jason Sacks From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Thu Feb 22 14:02:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Feb 2001 22:02:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 32901 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 22:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2001 22:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11603.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.55) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 22:02:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20010222220208.18597.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:02:08 PST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:02:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] NY Comic Art Convention (Phil Seuling...) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20010222155839.76879.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov sorry to bother you, gary. but could i get more info on that convention in PA? Thanks Nick --- Gary Arkell wrote: > I just recently got a flyer for a new Creation in > King of Prussia, PA > > Infantino, Steranko, Simonson and Cho are some of > the guests > > > > --- pjstef@yahoo.com wrote: > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... > wrote: > > > > > > (Actually, as long as I'm on the topic: If > anyone here has any > > photos from that convention, or the 1976 MARVEL > CON, or Phil > > Seuling's 1977 Philadelphia show, or the New York > CREATION cons, > > from '76-78--please let me know!) >> > > > > My very first comic con was Creation NY Feb 1979. > That was fantastic! > > > > My big catch was Spidey #18 for $3.50 - a little > worn, but still in > > my collection today. Creation by 1979 was pretty > big. I think I paid > > $5 to get in, which wasn't cheap to a 12 year-old. > I remember that by > > > > 1985 or so the admission was around $13 or $14. > You knew you were > > paying so much to support all the ballrooms of > movie screenings and > > speakers. Still, it became too expensive to go to > Creation. Fred > > Greenburgh then made a nice niche by bringing back > affordable shows > > under the Great Eastern name. > > > > A question: was the success of Creation the major > reason Seuling > > moved the show to Philly? Why was this done? If I > recall, the 1977 > > and 1978 shows were both there, and then Phil may > have brought the > > show back to NY for 1979. By that time, Seuling > had 4th of July, and > > Creation had two big shows in NYC - end of Feb and > Thanksgiving > > weekend (they'd later add a show in August and the > Trek shows). I > > never actually attended an annual Seuling Con, but > did make it to one > > > > of his monthly "marketplaces" circa 1980. Nice and > low key, but tons > > of books everywhere. Just great! > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > > > > > > ===== > REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY > > DON'T DREAM IT > BE HERE > > > Gary > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great > prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From fiawol@aol.com Thu Feb 22 17:27:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fiawol@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 01:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9963 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 01:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 01:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.4) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 02:28:30 -0000 Received: from Fiawol@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.ae.118a07d7 (3977) for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:26:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:26:59 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 114 From: fiawol@aol.com In a message dated 2/22/2001 3:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: > There's an interview with Neal Adams in the > March 2001 issue of Wired regarding his forthcoming book that > discusses his theories of physics, plate tetonics and other related > scientific disciplines. You mean the theory that he's been espousing at conventions for the last 4 years, and promising to publish in "Two Guys Talking at a Bar" for the past 3 years? I'm ready to stop hearing about it and start LOOKING at it. ;-) Dave From DocV@Prodigy.net Thu Feb 22 18:32:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 02:32:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 95069 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 02:32:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 02:32:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.102) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 02:32:56 -0000 Received: from [63.253.76.180] (A070-0180.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.76.180]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1N2WrW94156 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:32:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200102230232.f1N2WrW94156@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] Jeffrey Jones/Mark Rindner/(Was Video Mystery--1976 NY Comic Art C Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:34:39 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- James asked: > Do you, or does anybody here, have any idea of whatever happened to Mark > Rindner (sp)? > > To those who didn't know him, Mark ran the New York Comics Art Gallery in the > mid-to-late '70s, in Manhattan. > > The Gallery was off of Lexington,either on 58th, or 59th, (around the corner > from Bloomingdales, anyway!), and up a flight of stairs, on its building's , > second floor. That's my neck of the woods, James. My office is on 60th between Lex and Park. The Gallery changed locations at least 4 times over the last 20 years , the last being on 59th between Lex and Park, right next to the Argosy bookstore. By this time it was just a tiny comic shop, only a satellite of St. Mark's Comics downtown. It finally closed down completely almost 2 years ago. Doc V. From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 22 19:04:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 03:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29299 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 03:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 03:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 04:05:04 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07216 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:03:58 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.181] (ppp40.netimaging.com [208.136.132.181]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07127 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:03:57 -0600 Message-Id: <200102230303.VAA07127@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Date: Thu, 22 Feb 01 21:02:18 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/22/2001 3:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: > >> There's an interview with Neal Adams in the >> March 2001 issue of Wired regarding his forthcoming book that >> discusses his theories of physics, plate tetonics and other related >> scientific disciplines. > >You mean the theory that he's been espousing at conventions for the last 4 >years, and promising to publish in "Two Guys Talking at a Bar" for the >past 3 >years? I'm ready to stop hearing about it and start LOOKING at it. ;-) > >Dave I subscribe to WIRED - there are some nice full page excerpts including a double page spread which have me wanting more bob From fiawol@aol.com Thu Feb 22 19:19:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fiawol@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 03:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 56221 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 03:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 03:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 03:19:18 -0000 Received: from Fiawol@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.71.afa8597 (4331) for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:19:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <71.afa8597.27c730ae@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:19:10 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 114 From: fiawol@aol.com In a message dated 2/22/2001 10:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > I subscribe to WIRED - there are some nice full page excerpts including a > double page spread which have me wanting more > > bob > He's had that SAME double page spread displayed for the last 3 years! Lets see some NEW art!! Dave (New Adams graphic novel, gotta love it) From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Feb 22 19:30:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 03:30:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 19413 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 03:30:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 03:30:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 03:30:23 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22288 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:30:22 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.175] (ppp34.netimaging.com [208.136.132.175]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA22134 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:30:20 -0600 Message-Id: <200102230330.VAA22134@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Date: Thu, 22 Feb 01 21:28:42 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >In a message dated 2/22/2001 10:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, >beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > >> I subscribe to WIRED - there are some nice full page excerpts including a >> double page spread which have me wanting more >> >> bob >> >He's had that SAME double page spread displayed for the last 3 years! Lets >see some NEW art!! > >Dave (New Adams graphic novel, gotta love it) I doubt you not, but this be "new" to me - as well as the other full page. If he is hitting WIRED, he must be getting ready to publish it shortly - why else squander such good publicity fortune -:) bob From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Thu Feb 22 22:07:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 06:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 34529 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 06:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 06:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 06:07:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.59] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2001 06:07:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:07:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Message-ID: <974ung+tsah@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102230330.VAA22134@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1027 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >In a message dated 2/22/2001 10:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >beerbohm@t... writes: > > > >> I subscribe to WIRED - there are some nice full page excerpts including a > >> double page spread which have me wanting more > >> > >> bob > >> > >He's had that SAME double page spread displayed for the last 3 years! Lets > >see some NEW art!! > > > >Dave (New Adams graphic novel, gotta love it) > > I doubt you not, but this be "new" to me - as well as the other full > page. If he is hitting WIRED, he must be getting ready to publish it > shortly - why else squander such good publicity fortune -:) He was saying the book will ship with a video describing his theory, and will be extremely expensive as a package. But the art looks stupendous (what else do you expect?) and the theories will be at least interesting. I thought the article was extremely balanced, considering how off to the fringe Adams's theories are. - Jason From GSArkell@yahoo.com Fri Feb 23 07:57:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 15:57:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 95542 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 15:55:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 15:55:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9610.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.189) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 16:56:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20010223155513.73118.qmail@web9610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.171.232.1] by web9610.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:55:13 PST Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:55:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Creation Con in PA To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20010222220208.18597.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Gary Arkell No Problem Nick.... Creation Con March 3,4 2001 Valley Forge Convention Center Noon - 6pm 1160 First Ave. King of Prussia, PA 818-409-0960 x 225 WWW.Creationent.com For Tickets General Admission $17 daily in advance: Creation Entertainment The Galleria Tower 100 West Broadway Suite 1200 Glendale, Ca 91210 Guests: Michael Hurst Marina Sirtis Robert Duncan Keith Hamilton Cobb William Gregory Lee Hudson Leick Majel Roddenberry Jim Steranko Carmine Infantino Walt & Louise Simonson Dan Adkins Frank Cho Mark Wheatley J.D. Spurlock Marc Hempel Next time I will have to charge Creation a advertising fee... --- nick alenikov wrote: > sorry to bother you, gary. but could i get more info > on that convention in PA? > Thanks > Nick > --- Gary Arkell wrote: > > I just recently got a flyer for a new Creation in > > King of Prussia, PA > > > > Infantino, Steranko, Simonson and Cho are some of > > the guests > > > > > > > > --- pjstef@yahoo.com wrote: > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... > > wrote: > > > > > > > > (Actually, as long as I'm on the topic: If > > anyone here has any > > > photos from that convention, or the 1976 MARVEL > > CON, or Phil > > > Seuling's 1977 Philadelphia show, or the New York > > CREATION cons, > > > from '76-78--please let me know!) >> > > > > > > My very first comic con was Creation NY Feb 1979. > > That was fantastic! > > > > > > My big catch was Spidey #18 for $3.50 - a little > > worn, but still in > > > my collection today. Creation by 1979 was pretty > > big. I think I paid > > > $5 to get in, which wasn't cheap to a 12 year-old. > > I remember that by > > > > > > 1985 or so the admission was around $13 or $14. > > You knew you were > > > paying so much to support all the ballrooms of > > movie screenings and > > > speakers. Still, it became too expensive to go to > > Creation. Fred > > > Greenburgh then made a nice niche by bringing back > > affordable shows > > > under the Great Eastern name. > > > > > > A question: was the success of Creation the major > > reason Seuling > > > moved the show to Philly? Why was this done? If I > > recall, the 1977 > > > and 1978 shows were both there, and then Phil may > > have brought the > > > show back to NY for 1979. By that time, Seuling > > had 4th of July, and > > > Creation had two big shows in NYC - end of Feb and > > Thanksgiving > > > weekend (they'd later add a show in August and the > > Trek shows). I > > > never actually attended an annual Seuling Con, but > > did make it to one > > > > > > of his monthly "marketplaces" circa 1980. Nice and > > low key, but tons > > > of books everywhere. Just great! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY > > > > DON'T DREAM IT > > BE HERE > > > > > > Gary > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great > > prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ===== REALITY EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T COPE WITH FANTASY DON'T DREAM IT BE HERE Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Feb 23 08:56:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 16:56:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 1839 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 16:51:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 16:51:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 17:52:15 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18803 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:51:09 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.190] (ppp49.netimaging.com [208.136.132.190]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18718 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:51:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200102231651.KAA18718@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Date: Fri, 23 Feb 01 10:49:30 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >He was saying the book will ship with a video describing his theory, >and will be extremely expensive as a package. But the art looks >stupendous (what else do you expect?) and the theories will be at >least interesting. > >I thought the article was extremely balanced, considering how off to >the fringe Adams's theories are. > >- Jason Hey, no more fringe than "Genesis" theories -:) From thecliffguy@aol.com Fri Feb 23 10:26:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Thecliffguy@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 18:26:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 23071 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 18:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 18:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 18:13:40 -0000 Received: from Thecliffguy@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.d.109f6bfd (6964) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:13:33 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 352 From: thecliffguy@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/01 8:57:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > Hey, no more fringe than "Genesis" theories -:) Don't take the bait, just swim on by... ~Walt :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Feb 23 10:38:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 18:38:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 38578 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 18:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 18:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 19:28:05 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.9a.107cc90f (4309) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:26:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9a.107cc90f.27c8055e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:26:38 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/23/01 1:08:40 AM, jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: << I thought the article was extremely balanced, considering how off to the fringe Adams's theories are. >> Would someone present at least a short synopsis of Neal's off-the-wall theory? I see and hear so many references to it, but no one willing to state its premises. At Richard Rubenfeld's wonderful symposium and party last Wednesday, I tried to get Marv Wolfman to clue me in on Neal's thory, but he side-stepped the question. I must say that everyone is giving me the idea that Neal has slipped a cog. I'd like to judge his ideas for myself, but I'm not about to pay a lot of money, or even go out & buy Wired if he is really kooky. I don't want to support any more pseudo-science than we already have. All I need are the main premises. I can take it from there. Anybody? Bestest, Jerry From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Fri Feb 23 14:21:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Feb 2001 22:21:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 62692 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 22:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2001 22:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 22:21:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2001 22:21:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:21:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired Message-ID: <976nov+bd6v@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9a.107cc90f.27c8055e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1748 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" > > Would someone present at least a short synopsis of Neal's off-the- wall > theory? Here's a good synopsis from the article, by Jeffrey M. O'Brien (copyright him): "It should be noted that Adams isn't a scientist. He's a self-taught science buff, a man operating in the grand outside-the-academy tradition that has produced both greatness (Thomas Edison, Steve Wozniak) and not-so-greatness (Erich von Daniken). Adams has been fascinated by science for as long as he can remember, and he travels through disciplines like a car zigzagging on the freeway. For him, the notion of a growing Earth is just a starting point on the way to debunking not only a core priniple of geology - plate tectonics - but the very underpinnings of geophysics, cosmology, patricle physics, even Einstein's assertions about the speed of light. If the Earth i growing, he insists, this means the total amount of matter and energy in the universe is increasing - which means matter is infinite, not finite like Big Bang theorists believe. Adams doesn't even believe there was a big bang. It was more a whimper, a bitrhing cry to herald what's been going on ever since: Matter is being created all the time, in astounding quantities. The Earth, the moon, the stars, the entire universe - it's all growing. Not ust expanding relatiove to one another through space. Growing." The article notes that the book and video will be priced at between $60 and $80 at http://www.nealadamsentertainment.com. Neal's comment on the article is here: http://www.nealadamsentertainment.com/pages/oldindex.html. Personally, as a non-scientist who knows very little about the stuff he's talking about, I think Adams's theory is crazy pseudo-science. - Jason From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Feb 23 16:09:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 24 Feb 2001 00:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 62393 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2001 00:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2001 00:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Feb 2001 01:10:24 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.7f.109a4f8c (4238) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:03:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7f.109a4f8c.27c85438@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:03:04 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Neal Adams in the March issue of Wired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Thank you, Jason, for the bief run-down of Adams' speculations. It appears that Adams has latched on to a some combination of Fred Hoyle's old Steady State Universe and some of the speculations about dark matter and the theories that have particles popping in and out of empty space at the quantum level. Unless he is conversant with Super String Theory and has some empirical basis for his ideas, he is just wool gathering. We can all do that. It is equivalent to creating a new palor game. Ninety out of one-hundred new ideas, even by brilliant, disciplined thinkers miss the mark, so unless one subjects himself to some empirical testing and rigorous mathematics, one is just playing games in his head. Throughout history, these wool gatherers were called natural philosophers, and in lieu of something better, folks paid them attention, but it was the people who transformed their ideas into testable experiments (like the amateur who helped found electrical science as well as the United States) that get reme mbered on a $100 bill. It is sad but true that most of physics and astronomy, my two favorite subjects as a young man, have developed far beyond the everyday experiences that we can test in our homes or backyards, and the mathematical arguments require many years of investment that most of us do not have time for. So, we must be entertained by the popularizations of science that rely on inexact analogies, imprecise logic, and practically no first-hand experience with the new phenomena. It is like learning about the universe from the radio signals from a civilization 26 trillion miles away, while solar flares keep knocking out the transmission as often as commercials disrupt a TV program. What we would like to believe or want to believe about the universe has misdirected many folks over the course of human history. I personally don't like the Big Bang theory and was rooting for the Steady-State Model, but that has little to do with which view has the warrants. Small wonder that so many people were reluctant to recite Adams' theories. His talents lie elsewhere. Bestest, Jerry ---------- In a message dated 2/23/01 5:25:15 PM, jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: << > > Would someone present at least a short synopsis of Neal's off-the- wall > theory? Here's a good synopsis from the article, by Jeffrey M. O'Brien (copyright him): "It should be noted that Adams isn't a scientist. He's a self-taught science buff, a man operating in the grand outside-the-academy tradition that has produced both greatness (Thomas Edison, Steve Wozniak) and not-so-greatness (Erich von Daniken). Adams has been fascinated by science for as long as he can remember, and he travels through disciplines like a car zigzagging on the freeway. For him, the notion of a growing Earth is just a starting point on the way to debunking not only a core priniple of geology - plate tectonics - but the very underpinnings of geophysics, cosmology, patricle physics, even Einstein's assertions about the speed of light. If the Earth i growing, he insists, this means the total amount of matter and energy in the universe is increasing - which means matter is infinite, not finite like Big Bang theorists believe. Adams doesn't even believe there was a big bang. It was more a whimper, a bitrhing cry to herald what's been going on ever since: Matter is being created all the time, in astounding quantities. The Earth, the moon, the stars, the entire universe - it's all growing. Not ust expanding relatiove to one another through space. Growing." The article notes that the book and video will be priced at between $60 and $80 at http://www.nealadamsentertainment.com. Neal's comment on the article is here: http://www.nealadamsentertainment.com/pages/oldindex.html. Personally, as a non-scientist who knows very little about the stuff he's talking about, I think Adams's theory is crazy pseudo-science. - Jason >> From jameshburns@webtv.net Sun Feb 25 15:56:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 25 Feb 2001 23:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 55186 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2001 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2001 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Feb 2001 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.63]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25B2C9F3; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id PAA21735; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:56:28 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRE38blVUJM6vpUxLrUQyUAMYr75AIVAKEOguigf/OshniTQjUvO6V0O5n9 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:56:27 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <893-3A999BAB-3723@storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net I thought that some of you here, might find this interesting, not just for the particulars of the discussed Dan DCarlo situation, but for the article's thoughts, on the current comics scene. Best, Jim Burns ________________ From jameshburns@webtv.net Sun Feb 25 16:09:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 00:09:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 57755 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 00:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 00:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 01:10:19 -0000 Received: from storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.63]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2BA2C933; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id QAA22189; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRLY6SPDhtSj/V/GNuOP6rzjayyoQIUepUd1tol5tEoyLwtYemnkHotOP8= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:09:12 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <893-3A999EA8-3747@storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net (I hit the send key, too soon! Here's the article...) I thought that some of you here, might find this interesting, not just for the particulars of the discussed Dan DCarlo situation, but for the article's thoughts, on the current comics scene.=20 Best, Jim Burns=20 ________________=20 =20 FROM THE NY TIMES, February 19, 2001: =20=20=20 "Archie Comics and 'Josie' Artist Bare Legal Claws" By LESLIE EATON Dan DeCarlo, the longtime artist for Josie and the Pussycats (Josie is the guitarist), in costume with his wife, Josie, in the 1960's. He says she inspired his creation of Josie; Archie Comics says it was their idea.=20 If you're under the age of 60, you've almost certainly seen the work of an acclaimed artist named Dan DeCarlo. Chances are good you've even bought some of it. Unfortunately for Mr. DeCarlo, you probably didn't pay more than a quarter. You didn't know it was his. And you didn't think it was art at all. That is because Mr. DeCarlo has spent most of his working life =97 and he's 81 =97 working for Archie Comic Publications of Mamaroneck, N.Y. Yes, that Archie, the cheery teenage chump in the kiddie comic books, forever torn between blonde Betty and raven-haired Veronica.=20 While Mr. DeCarlo is something of a star of comics illustration, in the three-dimensional galaxy he finds himself without fame, fortune or even a pension. Which helps explain why, last year, he took legal steps to claim some of the characters he has drawn =97 most notably Josie, cartoon leader of the all-babe band called the Pussycats, who is about to appear in her own live-action movie. His efforts have outraged the publishers of Archie Comics and ignited a legal battle so fierce that even a jaded federal judge has called it acrimonious. Archie has accused Mr. DeCarlo of fabricating his claims, and countersued him; his lawyer has accused Archie of trying "to trick an old man into giving up his life's work for no consideration whatsoever."=20 Disputes over who owns comic-book characters have plagued the business since Mutt and Jeff were young, but they have become increasingly common of late, said Michael Dean, news editor of The Comics Journal. Fights over Captain America, Blade and the Green Lantern have all made headlines in his monthly magazine, as has Mr. DeCarlo's battle. These fights involve sweeping issues of creativity, and narrow changes in copyright law. But mostly, they have to do with the economics of the comic-book business, Mr. Dean said. "I don't think anybody realized that these properties would turn out to be as valuable as they have," he said. By properties he means characters, which can be recycled into toys or cartoons or television shows. Sabrina the Teenage Witch, now starring on the WB television network, is an Archie character first drawn by Mr. DeCarlo. In addition to Universal's Josie movie, which is being released this spring, films in the works feature Spider-Man and Scooby-Doo. Though it has heated up, the trend is not entirely new; in 1970, Archie licensed Josie and her girl group to Hanna-Barbera for a Saturday morning cartoon. The show ran for only a couple of seasons, and the girls never had a hit like Archie and his band. (Remember "Sugar, Sugar"?)=20 But the cartoon Josie had her fans. There were Josie juice glasses and jigsaw puzzles and records (advertised on boxes of Kellogg's Frosted Flakes). Even today, a surprising number of thirty-somethings can sing her theme song, "Josie and the Pussycats, long tails and ears for hats. . . ." A new generation of fans watches Josie on cable's Cartoon Network. Mr. DeCarlo disliked the show, he said recently; he found the animation crude and the stories lame. According to his lawsuit, he felt he had been left out of the licensing deal and consulted a lawyer about his rights. He "received some practical advice: if he wanted to keep working in this industry, forget it," his legal papers say.=20 That industry has been dwindling, even as its characters become more valuable. The newsstands, sweet shoppes and five-and-dimes that used to stock comics have been replaced by chain stores reluctant to carry such low-profit items. Marvel, the biggest company, is losing millions of dollars again after being bought out of bankruptcy in 1998. Archie is probably the fifth-largest comic-book publisher in the country, said John Jackson Miller, editor of Comics Retailer, and one of the rare publishers that still successfully sells through grocery stores.=20 But some think its outlook is dim. "Archie probably won't be around in five years," said John L. Hunter, a former cartoonist at Archie who is making a documentary film about Mr. DeCarlo. "Kids aren't reading comic books."=20 In fact, comic books are no longer a mass medium; many now resemble the shows on obscure cable stations, complete with improbably shaped vixens in leather underwear. Most comics are now sold in specialty stores run by and for young men.=20 Not so when young Dan DeCarlo started his career in the 1940's. Back then, a dozen or so companies published all kinds of comics =97 superhero, sci-fi, humor, romance, detective, kid stuff, slice-of-life =97 many featuring his specialty: pretty girls. Growing up in a poor neighborhood in New Rochelle, Mr. DeCarlo had dreamed of becoming an illustrator like his idol, Norman Rockwell, and had followed in his footsteps as far as the Art Students League. Then came Pearl Harbor, service in the Air Force =97 and Josie. Josie Dumont, that is. Mr. DeCarlo met her in 1945, in Belgium, on a blind date, she recalls; though he didn't speak French, he expressed his emotions through cartoons on his letters. They married in 1946; a year later their twin sons were born. After the war, "jobs were scarce and apartments were worse," Mr. DeCarlo said. When Timely Comics =97 which later became Marvel =97 offered him a steady job as an artist for $75 a week, he was thrilled. Like most cartoonists, he became an independent contractor in the mid-50's. Of course, that doesn't mean he worked alone. A writer creates the scripts and dialogue; then comes the artist, like Mr. DeCarlo, who draws panels and pages in pencil. Next, an inker retraces the drawing; there's also lettering.=20 These days, all the people who work on a comic book are usually listed in the credits, but for many years, comics writers and artists were almost always anonymous.=20 The crux of Mr. DeCarlo's beef with Archie began at this time. He says he had been trying to dream up a newspaper comic strip featuring teenagers. When Josie, toujours chic, came home with a new bouffant hairdo, he was inspired. Josie, the comic character, was born. He soon added her pals, Pepper and Melody (whenever she speaks, musical notes appear). And when it came time to create the band, he modeled the girls' cat outfits on one Josie wore to a costume party. It wasn't until 1961, he says, that he showed the strip to Richard Goldwater, the son of one of the founders of Archie. When their effort to syndicate it failed, Archie itself began publishing a Josie comic book. The first issue of "She's Josie" was dated February 1963, but seems to have hit the candy stores in late '62. No, that's not the way it happened at all, the Archie people say. Their legal papers say that Mr. Goldwater's father wanted a female version of Archie, and that in 1961 or 1962 Archie commissioned Mr. DeCarlo to draw her. This matters because if Josie is indeed a "work for hire," Mr. DeCarlo probably has no rights to her under copyright law. Furthermore, the company contends, in 1988 and 1996 Mr. DeCarlo signed contracts giving up rights to his Archie work. But his lawyer, the former federal prosecutor Whitney North Seymour Jr., argues that those contracts applied only to comic books, not movies or merchandise. Last month, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan of United States District Court ruled that Mr. DeCarlo had waited too long to assert any rights to Josie, and also dismissed Archie's counterclaims; earlier this month, he denied its request to have Mr. DeCarlo pay its legal fees. But the wrangle is by no means over. Mr. Seymour said he will argue before an appeals court on Feb. 27. And a lawsuit filed by Archie against Mr. DeCarlo over Sabrina is still pending before Judge Kaplan. If this dispute has the flavor of a family feud, that's how Archie's owners see it. "Since we, at Archie Comics, have always viewed Dan DeCarlo as a member of our `family,=B4 we were very hurt when he sued us," according to a four-page statement from Archie=B4s chairman, Michael Silberkleit. The company fired Mr. DeCarlo after he filed his suit. The company also says that it voluntarily shared some of its Josie revenues with him. Mr. DeCarlo "has for many years been paid more by Archie Comics than any other individual working for the company," Mr. Silberkleit said. "Only the two owners of Archie Comics have been paid more." Mr. DeCarlo does not deny that he made a good living from Archie, where he eventually became the chief artist. His work there helped put his sons through college. Unlike the owners, however, he has never driven a Mercedes or owned a 50-foot yacht (named, of course, Archie). And he had to turn out a lot of pages at $135 apiece =97 most weeks, at least 15, he said =97 and pay his own inker. He takes credit for keeping the fashions up to date, for putting the ponytail on Betty and for giving all the Archie girls their simple but distinctive lip line. "Without bragging," he said, "I did create a different, new Archie that everyone copied." Mr. DeCarlo is now doing layouts for Bongo Entertainment, the comic-book home of Matt Groening's Simpsons. While Homer and Marge are light-years away from Betty and Veronica, Mr. DeCarlo's storytelling skills work as well in Springfield as in Riverdale, said Bill Morrison, creative director at Bongo.=20 In most cases Mr. DeCarlo designs pages and other artists draw in the characters, though Mr. DeCarlo did depict Bart last year in a Halloween comic book called Treehouse of Horror. But there was no erasing his distinctive style. As Josie =97 er, Mrs. DeCarlo =97 put it, "When it comes to Dan, the Simpsons look gentle."=20 Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company=20=20=20=20 =20 =20 =20=20=20 From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Feb 26 10:31:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 18:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 7459 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 18:30:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 18:30:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11608.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.60) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 18:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20010226183058.22255.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:30:58 PST Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:30:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comics.../NY TIMES To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <893-3A999EA8-3747@storefull-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo was involved in this as well. many artist's create the characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the overall finished product --- jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: > > (I hit the send key, too soon! Here's the > article...) > > > I thought that some of you here, might find this > interesting, not just > for the particulars of the discussed Dan DCarlo > situation, but for the > article's thoughts, on the current comics scene. > > Best, Jim Burns > ________________ > > > FROM THE NY TIMES, February 19, 2001: > > > "Archie Comics and 'Josie' Artist Bare Legal Claws" > > > By LESLIE EATON > > > > Dan DeCarlo, the longtime artist for Josie and the > Pussycats (Josie is > the guitarist), in costume with his wife, Josie, in > the 1960's. He says > she inspired his creation of Josie; Archie Comics > says it was their > idea. > > If you're under the age of 60, you've almost > certainly seen the work of > an acclaimed artist named Dan DeCarlo. Chances are > good you've even > bought some of it. > > Unfortunately for Mr. DeCarlo, you probably didn't > pay more than a > quarter. You didn't know it was his. And you didn't > think it was art at > all. > That is because Mr. DeCarlo has spent most of his > working life — and > he's 81 — working for Archie Comic Publications of > Mamaroneck, N.Y. > Yes, that Archie, the cheery teenage chump in the > kiddie comic books, > forever torn between blonde Betty and raven-haired > Veronica. > > While Mr. DeCarlo is something of a star of comics > illustration, in the > three-dimensional galaxy he finds himself without > fame, fortune or even > a pension. > > Which helps explain why, last year, he took legal > steps to claim some of > the characters he has drawn — most notably Josie, > cartoon leader of > the all-babe band called the Pussycats, who is about > to appear in her > own live-action movie. > His efforts have outraged the publishers of Archie > Comics and ignited a > legal battle so fierce that even a jaded federal > judge has called it > acrimonious. Archie has accused Mr. DeCarlo of > fabricating his claims, > and countersued him; his lawyer has accused Archie > of trying "to trick > an old man into giving up his life's work for no > consideration > whatsoever." > > Disputes over who owns comic-book characters have > plagued the business > since Mutt and Jeff were young, but they have become > increasingly common > of late, said Michael Dean, news editor of The > Comics Journal. Fights > over Captain America, Blade and the Green Lantern > have all made > headlines in his monthly magazine, as has Mr. > DeCarlo's battle. > > These fights involve sweeping issues of creativity, > and narrow changes > in copyright law. But mostly, they have to do with > the economics of the > comic-book business, Mr. Dean said. "I don't think > anybody realized that > these properties would turn out to be as valuable as > they have," he > said. > > By properties he means characters, which can be > recycled into toys or > cartoons or television shows. Sabrina the Teenage > Witch, now starring on > the WB television network, is an Archie character > first drawn by Mr. > DeCarlo. In addition to Universal's Josie movie, > which is being released > this spring, films in the works feature Spider-Man > and Scooby-Doo. > > Though it has heated up, the trend is not entirely > new; in 1970, Archie > licensed Josie and her girl group to Hanna-Barbera > for a Saturday > morning cartoon. The show ran for only a couple of > seasons, and the > girls never had a hit like Archie and his band. > (Remember "Sugar, > Sugar"?) > > But the cartoon Josie had her fans. There were Josie > juice glasses and > jigsaw puzzles and records (advertised on boxes of > Kellogg's Frosted > Flakes). Even today, a surprising number of > thirty-somethings can sing > her theme song, "Josie and the Pussycats, long tails > and ears for hats. > . . ." A new generation of fans watches Josie on > cable's Cartoon > Network. > > Mr. DeCarlo disliked the show, he said recently; he > found the animation > crude and the stories lame. According to his > lawsuit, he felt he had > been left out of the licensing deal and consulted a > lawyer about his > rights. He "received some practical advice: if he > wanted to keep working > in this industry, forget it," his legal papers say. > > That industry has been dwindling, even as its > characters become more > valuable. The newsstands, sweet shoppes and > five-and-dimes that used to > stock comics have been replaced by chain stores > reluctant to carry such > low-profit items. Marvel, the biggest company, is > losing millions of > dollars again after being bought out of bankruptcy > in 1998. > > Archie is probably the fifth-largest comic-book > publisher in the > country, said John Jackson Miller, editor of Comics > Retailer, and one of > the rare publishers that still successfully sells > through grocery > stores. > > But some think its outlook is dim. "Archie probably > won't be around in > five years," said John L. Hunter, a former > cartoonist at Archie who is > making a documentary film about Mr. DeCarlo. "Kids > aren't reading comic > books." > > In fact, comic books are no longer a mass medium; > many now resemble the > shows on obscure cable stations, complete with > improbably shaped vixens > in leather underwear. Most comics are now sold in > specialty stores run > by and for young men. > > Not so when young Dan DeCarlo started his career in > the 1940's. Back > then, a dozen or so companies published all kinds of > comics — > superhero, sci-fi, humor, romance, detective, kid > stuff, slice-of-life > — many featuring his specialty: pretty girls. > > Growing up in a poor neighborhood in New Rochelle, > Mr. DeCarlo had > dreamed of becoming an illustrator like his idol, > Norman Rockwell, and > had followed in his footsteps as far as the Art > Students League. Then > came Pearl Harbor, service in the Air Force — and > Josie. > > Josie Dumont, that is. Mr. DeCarlo met her in 1945, > in Belgium, on a > blind date, she recalls; though he didn't speak > French, he expressed his > emotions through cartoons on his letters. They > married in 1946; a year > later their twin sons were born. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Feb 26 12:14:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 20:14:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 60536 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 20:14:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 20:14:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 20:14:54 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.67.103f329b (4197) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:14:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <67.103f329b.27cc132b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:14:35 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comics.../NY TIMES To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Jim, While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, and may frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an editor or publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co-created a comics strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, if they are any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and the look of the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined many of the features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the utility belt, even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie stills of Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might think. His contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. Bestest, Jerry ------ In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo was involved in this as well. many artist's create the characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the overall finished product --- jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: > > (I hit the send key, too soon! Here's the > article...) > > > I thought that some of you here, might find this > interesting, not just > for the particulars of the discussed Dan DCarlo > situation, but for the > article's thoughts, on the current comics scene. > > Best, Jim Burns >> From jameshburns@webtv.net Mon Feb 26 13:11:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 21:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23412 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 21:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 21:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 21:11:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.109] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2001 21:11:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:11:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <97egqp+1efc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <67.103f329b.27cc132b@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1875 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.116 From: jameshburns@webtv.net --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Hey, Jerry-- With me, you're preaching to the choir here! :-) I think you meant to address your response to "Nick," who was comenting on the TIMES article I posted. Those coments were his, not mine! Oddly, in the recent history of comics, it does seem to be the writer who has gotten far less credit than, obviously, deserved. 'Just like here! :-) Best, Jim Burns (By the way, I can't begin to express the tremendous kick I get, out of being on a list with one of the fellows who helped spearhead the whole modern (I mean, Silver Age!) incarnation of the comics-fan phenomenon. Thanks, Jerry! Best, Jim) JerryBails@a... wrote: > Jim, > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, and may > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an editor or > publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co-created a comics > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, if they are > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and the look of > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined many of the > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the utility belt, > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie stills of > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might think. His > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > ------ > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@y... writes: > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo > was involved in this as well. many artist's create the > characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > overall finished product From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Feb 26 15:35:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Feb 2001 23:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 65280 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2001 23:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Feb 2001 23:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 23:35:49 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.71.b123195 (4562) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:35:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <71.b123195.27cc4246@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:35:34 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Comics.../NY TIMES To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com I'm sorry for my confusion. As a result of the mismatch between one ISP's format for quoting and another's, the author of remarks is not always clear, especially when a post carries foward 2 or more previous letters. Bestest, Jerry ---------------------------------- In a message dated 2/26/01 4:14:42 PM, jameshburns@webtv.net writes: << --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Hey, Jerry-- With me, you're preaching to the choir here! :-) I think you meant to address your response to "Nick," who was comenting on the TIMES article I posted. Those coments were his, not mine! Oddly, in the recent history of comics, it does seem to be the writer who has gotten far less credit than, obviously, deserved. 'Just like here! :-) Best, Jim Burns (By the way, I can't begin to express the tremendous kick I get, out of being on a list with one of the fellows who helped spearhead the whole modern (I mean, Silver Age!) incarnation of the comics-fan phenomenon. Thanks, Jerry! Best, Jim) JerryBails@a... wrote: > Jim, > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, and may > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an editor or > publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co-created a comics > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, if they are > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and the look of > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined many of the > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the utility belt, > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie stills of > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might think. His > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > ------ > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@y... writes: > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo > was involved in this as well. many artist's create the > characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > overall finished product >> From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 19:32:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 03:32:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 44276 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 03:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 03:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 03:32:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.91] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2001 03:32:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:32:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <97f753+323j@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <97egqp+1efc@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2152 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 4.41.52.221 From: "Jason Sacks" Just FYI, the "Nick" in this thread is Nick Alenikov, who's published hundreds of pinups and strips in various zines, both under his name and under the nom de plume of "Filthy McNasty." - Jason > Hey, Jerry-- > > With me, you're preaching to the choir here! > > :-) > > I think you meant to address your response to "Nick," who was comenting on the TIMES article I posted. > > Those coments were his, not mine! > > Oddly, in the recent history of comics, it does seem to be the writer who has gotten far less credit than, obviously, deserved. > > 'Just like here! > > :-) > > Best, Jim Burns > > (By the way, I can't begin to express the tremendous kick I get, out of being on a list with one of the fellows who helped spearhead the whole modern (I mean, Silver Age!) incarnation of the comics-fan phenomenon. Thanks, Jerry! Best, Jim) > > > JerryBails@a... wrote: > > Jim, > > > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, and may > > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an editor or > > publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co-created a comics > > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, if they are > > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and the look of > > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined many of the > > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the utility belt, > > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie stills of > > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. > > > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might think. His > > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. > > > > Bestest, > > > > Jerry > > > > ------ > > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@y... writes: > > > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo > > was involved in this as well. many artist's create the > > characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or > > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > > overall finished product From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Feb 26 20:27:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 04:27:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 48329 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 04:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 04:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 04:27:56 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.2b.119946a2 (3946) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:27:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2b.119946a2.27cc86c7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:27:51 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] About the Who's Who To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/26/01 10:54:14 PM, jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: << Just FYI, the "Nick" in this thread is Nick Alenikov, who's published=20 hundreds of pinups and strips in various zines, both under his name=20 and under the nom de plume of "Filthy McNasty." - Jason >> Happy to know this. Nick, and any other pros on this list, I'd be happy to have you update your= =20 listing in the Who's Who of 20th Century Comic Books, using the questionnai= re=20 below. See http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ I only know of Nick's work in __HEART OF DIXIE COMICS ____KNIGHTSTORM (a) 1985 I'd love to know the rest. Bestest, Jerry ------------- Do you qualify for inclusion in=20 THE WHO'S WHO OF 20th CENTURY AMERICAN COMIC BOOKS ? The Who's Who covers the following persons: (A) Anyone who has created or helped to create comic books or graphic albums published in the U.S. in the 20th century provided that (1) The material was original, not merely reprinted from other media; (2) It is the first printing in the U.S. of foreign comic material. (B) Anyone who has been part of the ownership or production/business support staff of a comic book publisher (but not including distribution= ). Once one qualifies by any of the above, we want complete resum=E8s for published work in all related fields, although none of these sister fields= =20 alone will qualitfy a person for inclusion: Online comics; books and album cover and jackets Syndicated comics in other periodicals Cartoons & strips in magazines and papers Animation; TV; movies; radio; stage; pulps;=20 Posters, trading cards, calenders, greeting cards Comic books published outside the U.S.A. Advertising; fashion; editorial cartooning;=20 Storyboards; design of games, books, toys, etc.=20 any artistic field whatsoever: music, fine arts, etc. It doesn't matter what the format of the comics is: a mini a black & white a graphic album a magazine a coffee table collection=20 or whether it was distributed in the mainstream underground or alternate routes at conventions or through the mails as a premium with other goods and/or services as long as it is predominantly comics in format (exluding publications that carry mostly text or photos). You don't need to be rich or famous. If you quality by the above, then fill= =20 out the questionnaire below and sent it to: JerryBails@aol.com or Jerry Bails, Executive Editor 21221 Thiele Ct. St. Clair Shores MI, U.S.A. 40801Biographical Questionnaire for THE WHO'S WHO OF AMERICAN COMIC BOOKS If you are a pro in the field, make sure you fill out this questionnaire. Return it to: Jerry Bails, 21221 Thiele Ct., St. Clair Shores, MI 48081 or E-mail it to: jerrybails@aol.com PLEASE PRINT OR TYPE YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS BELOW. To minimize mistakes, please don't abbreviate names, and avoid humorous answers. A. Your name as you wish to be listed in the WHO'S WHO. B. Year of your birth. C. Country of your birth and nationality if not a U.S. citizen. D. Give your full name at birth and indicate any legal name changes. E. List pen names (any names signed to work) and indicate the media in which each alias appeared. F. Specify your role in the comic book field: Publisher; Editor; Writer; Artist; Colorist; Letterer; or other (specify). G. Post-secondary education: any degrees (major), name of school & location (city & state, or country). H. The top three (3) influences on your career in comics. I. The names and relationships of any family members in=20 comics or the sister arts. J. All past or present memberships in societies, and list the offices or posts held, along with the years. K. All honors or prizes received with the name and year of each award. L. **COMIC BOOK CREDITS** (See the next section for listing credits in other fields including syndication.) Specify the nature of each job using these abbreviations: (GA) graphic album (anything larger than a standard comic book) (rep) reprint (original year?) (self) self-published (mini) miniature- or digest-size format (foreign) specify country, publication, feature, and year NOTE TO PUBLISHERS: Please list all titles published & years (using cover dates) of each. Please list any alternative names you have published under. If you have several imprints, please list titles by imprint. (I can provide a preliminary list of your titles for you to check. Just ask.) NOTE TO EDITORS: Please give exact titles of positions held; tenure with each company (first & last years); and a list of the features you edited and/or your responsibilities. NOTE TO WRITERS and ARTISTS: Please specify for each strip or feature: (w) writer (s) scenarios/plots only (lay) layout only (a) artist (p) pencils only (i) inks only (paint) paints (bkgd) backgrounds (asst) assistant (g) ghost and give Publisher Publication title (underlined please) Feature & Years (Use cover dates if possible or mark year with "c" for circa.) If you worked through a studio (or shop) please give the particulars, including years. NOTE TO PRODUCTION PERSONNEL: Please specify (col) colors (let) lettering (other?) publisher & years (Starting and ending cover dates would be most helpful.) NOTE TO OWNERS/EXECUTIVE OFFICERS/BUSINESS and SUPPORT PERSONNEL: Please give job titles; publishing company and tenure in each position. **CREDITS OUTSIDE OF COMIC BOOKS** (Please use numbers of categories below to identify, where possible, the type of work.) 10 SYNDICATED STRIPS or PANELS: Name of each feature (panel or strip?); years on the feature & contribution as writer, artist, etc. Use the same abbreviations as for comic books above. PRINT MEDIA: 21 Magazine art (titles and years on each title) 22 Commercial art (for whom, when?) 23 Fashion (for whom, when?) 24 Record jackets (names of albums and years) 25 Caricatures (for whom, when?) 26 Gag cartoons (periodical names or books; and years of publication?) 27 Studio owner (name of studio; type of work; clients or accounts) 28 Art direction (for whom, when?) 29 Comics in other media besides syndication: Name of feature series? one-time strip? or panel? (a)rtist, (w)riter, (col)orist, (p)enciller, etc.? Give the year each feature appeared; also the publication. 31 Short stories (magazine or anthology titles & years of publication) 32 Novels (titles & original year of publication) 33 Juvenile fiction (lead character & title, publication title, & year) 34 Non-fiction (give specifics & years) 35 Editor (publisher or titles of publications & years) 36 Humor writing (specify where and when) 37 Advertising copy (agency or company name; clients, years) 38 Agent (medium; clients; years) 39 Articles (titles of publications & years) Other (please specify) ANIMATION Under each applicable category below, give the name of the animation studio with a list of characters or features and years on each. 41 Animator 42 In-betweener 43 Writer 44 Backgrounds 45 Director 46 Producer 47 Supervisor 48 Voices 49 Opaquer 4S Storyboards 4M Model sheets 4L Layouts Other (please specify) PERFORMING ARTS Under each applicable category below, give specifics such as medium (theater, radio, TV, movies, etc.),=20 names of performances,=20 dates (beginning & ending years) 51 Playwright 52 Designer 53 Director 54 Actor 55 Comedian 56 Producer 57 Musician 58 Puppeteer 59 Magician Other (please specify) FINE ARTS Give particulars where possible for any relevant category. 61 Photographer 62 Muralist 63 Painter 64 Sculptor 65 Musician 66 Vocalist 67 Coin designer 68 Print designer 69 Composer Other (please specify) MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORIES Give years and other particulars. 71 Toy designer 72 Novelties 73 Game designer 74 Designer of instructional materials 75 Greeting cards 77 Posters 80 Teacher 81 Paperback illustrations 82 Publisher 83 Consultant 84 Promoter 87 Manager 88 Columnist 89 Contributor 90 Portfolios 91 Reporter 94 Gamemaster books 96 Movie storyboards 97 Biographical sources/Interviews Other? (Please specify.) If you want to proofread your entry in the WHO'S WHO, please enclose=20 a self-addressed, stamped envelope or provide your e-mail address.=20=20 We are happy to receive yearly updates on your birthday. ***** Biographical Questionnaire for THE WHO'S WHO OF AMERICAN COMIC BOOKS If you are a pro in the field, make sure you fill out this questionnaire. Return it to: Jerry Bails, 21221 Thiele Ct., St. Clair Shores, MI 48081 or E-mail it to: jerrybails@aol.com PLEASE PRINT OR TYPE YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS BELOW. To minimize mistakes, please don't abbreviate names, and avoid humorous answers. A. Your name as you wish to be listed in the WHO'S WHO. B. Year of your birth. C. Country of your birth and nationality if not a U.S. citizen. D. Give your full name at birth and indicate any legal name changes. E. List pen names (any names signed to work) and indicate the media in which each alias appeared. F. Specify your role in the comic book field: Publisher; Editor; Writer; Artist; Colorist; Letterer; or other (specify). G. Post-secondary education: any degrees (major), name of school & location (city & state, or country). H. The top three (3) influences on your career in comics. I. The names and relationships of any family members in=20=20=20=20 comics or the sister arts. J. All past or present memberships in societies, and list the offices or posts held, along with the years. K. All honors or prizes received with the name and year of each award. L. **COMIC BOOK CREDITS** (See the next section for listing credits in other fields including syndication.) Specify the nature of each job using these abbreviations: (GA) graphic album (anything larger than a standard comic book) (rep) reprint (original year?) (self) self-published (mini) miniature- or digest-size format (foreign) specify country, publication, feature, and year NOTE TO PUBLISHERS: Please list all titles published & years (using cover dates) of each. Please list any alternative names you have published under. If you have several imprints, please list titles by imprint. (I can provide a preliminary list of your titles for you to check. Just ask.) NOTE TO EDITORS: Please give exact titles of positions held; tenure with each company (first & last years); and a list of the features you edited and/or your responsibilities. NOTE TO WRITERS and ARTISTS: Please specify for each strip or feature: (w) writer (s) scenarios/plots only (lay) layout only (a) artist; (p) pencils only (i) inks only (paint) paints (bkgd) backgrounds; (asst) assistant (g) ghost and give Publisher Publication title (underlined please) Feature & Years (Use cover dates if possible or mark year with "c" for circa.) If you worked through a studio (or shop) please give the particulars, including years. NOTE TO PRODUCTION PERSONNEL: Please specify (col) colors (let) lettering (other?) publisher & years (Starting and ending cover dates would be most helpful.) NOTE TO OWNERS/EXECUTIVE OFFICERS/BUSINESS and SUPPORT PERSONNEL: Please give job titles; publishing company and tenure in each position. **CREDITS OUTSIDE OF COMIC BOOKS** (Please use numbers of categories below to identify, where possible, the type of work.) 10 SYNDICATED STRIPS or PANELS: Name of each feature (panel or strip?); years on the feature & contribution as writer, artist, etc. Use the same abbreviations as for comic books above. PRINT MEDIA: 21 Magazine art (titles and years on each title) 22 Commercial art (for whom, when?) 23 Fashion (for whom, when?) 24 Record jackets (names of albums and years) 25 Caricatures (for whom, when?) 26 Gag cartoons (periodical names or books; and years of publication?) 27 Studio owner (name of studio; type of work; clients or accounts) 28 Art direction (for whom, when?) 29 Comics in other media besides syndication: Name of feature series? one-time strip? or panel? (a)rtist, (w)riter, (col)orist, (p)enciller, etc.? Give the year each feature appeared; also the publication. 31 Short stories (magazine or anthology titles & years of publication) 32 Novels (titles & original year of publication) 33 Juvenile fiction (lead character & title, publication title, & year) 34 Non-fiction (give specifics & years) 35 Editor (publisher or titles of publications & years) 36 Humor writing (specify where and when) 37 Advertising copy (agency or company name; clients, years) 38 Agent (medium; clients; years) 39 Articles (titles of publications & years) Other (please specify) ANIMATION Under each applicable category below, give the name of the animation studio with a list of characters or features and years on each. 41 Animator 42 In-betweener 43 Writer 44 Backgrounds 45 Director 46 Producer 47 Supervisor 48 Voices 49 Opaquer 4S Storyboards 4M Model sheets 4L Layouts Other (please specify) PERFORMING ARTS Under each applicable category below, give specifics such as medium (theater, radio, TV, movies, etc.),=20 names of performances,=20 dates (beginning & ending years) 51 Playwright 52 Designer 53 Director 54 Actor 55 Comedian 56 Producer 57 Musician 58 Puppeteer 59 Magician Other (please specify) FINE ARTS Give particulars where possible for any relevant category. 61 Photographer 62 Muralist 63 Painter 64 Sculptor 65 Musician 66 Vocalist 67 Coin designer 68 Print designer 69 Composer Other (please specify) MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORIES Give years and other particulars. 71 Toy designer 72 Novelties 73 Game designer 74 Designer of instructional materials 75 Greeting cards 77 Posters 80 Teacher 81 Paperback illustrations 82 Publisher 83 Consultant 84 Promoter 87 Manager 88 Columnist 89 Contributor 90 Portfolios 91 Reporter 94 Gamemaster books 96 Movie storyboards 97 Biographical sources/Interviews Other? (Please specify.) If you want to proofread your entry in the WHO'S WHO, please enclose=20 a self-addressed, stamped envelope or provide your e-mail address.=20=20 We are happy to receive yearly updates on your birthday. From paul.chester@britvic.co.uk Tue Feb 27 05:51:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 13:51:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 45910 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 13:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 13:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 13:51:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk Received: from [10.1.2.117] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2001 13:51:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:51:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New member Message-ID: <97gbcm+ae82@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 457 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 194.200.144.99 From: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk Greetings from the U.K.! I was an avid reader of British comic fanzines in the mid to late 70s and contributed to one or two. I used to enjoy some zines more than the comics that were around at the time. I look forward to learning stuff, being entertained and possibly discovering some familiar names. So right now Ive got over 400 postings to look through. Hope to be in touch soon, All the Best, Paul Chester. From jgjensen@uniontel.net Tue Feb 27 11:45:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 19:45:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7406 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 19:45:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 19:45:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 20:46:13 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod33.uniontel.net [209.94.180.43]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1RJn2907019 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:49:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007f01c0a0ee$17ead360$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:50:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi my name is Jon Jensen, a long time collector and fanzine editor cira 1967-69 or so. I was giving Steve here some data on my zines and we swapped some zines. Strangly enough while looking for old Cloak and Daggers (my zine), I came across the next issue I was to print #3 completely done on Agua Clean ditto masters!!! Way cool, I have not seen the thing in 30 years or so (it was never published). The question is how do you print ditto masters these days? Sort of like computer punch cards of the same era. Any thoughts, and how many copies do you guys want? Thanks Jon Jensen Oh, and I have unearthed about 12 copies of #2 from 1969, will entertain offers of trade for your old fanzines, preferably from that era. Thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ogden To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker >--- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jonathan G Jensen" >wrote: > Have a few of the previous issues of Comic Blasts our first effort >in the 60's to add to the list, who do I contact? > >Any updates for the fanzine list can be directed to Steve Ogden (AKA: >fanzinelover) at ogden@csd.com. I am always trying to improve this >list! Are there any suggestions/criticisms/improvements that anyone >cares to make? I'd like to make this list as complete as possible! >Thanks. > >--Steve Ogden > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Feb 27 12:31:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 20:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16841 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 20:30:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 20:30:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 20:30:37 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.c4.1064e340 (4380) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:30:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:30:29 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/27/01 3:03:32 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: << Hi my name is Jon Jensen, a long time collector and fanzine editor cira 1967-69 or so. I was giving Steve here some data on my zines and we swapped some zines. Strangly enough while looking for old Cloak and Daggers (my zine), I came across the next issue I was to print #3 completely done on Agua Clean ditto masters!!! Way cool, I have not seen the thing in 30 years or so (it was never published). The question is how do you print ditto masters these days? Sort of like computer punch cards of the same era. Any thoughts, and how many copies do you guys want? Thanks Jon Jensen Oh, and I have unearthed about 12 copies of #2 from 1969, will entertain offers of trade for your old fanzines, preferably from that era. Thanks again. >> Why not scan the ditto master and print it out or transmit it? Alternately, Xerox the master. If you scan the carbon side, which may provide a darker line, then you'd have to use software to reverse the image. If you used hard-lead pencil to draw on the master, a scan of the top of the master may have to be made more contrasty, but you can do that too. In any event, just digitalize it. Bestest, Jerry From ditko37@home.com Tue Feb 27 13:06:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 21:06:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 35468 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 21:04:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 21:04:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 21:04:25 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010227210419.DOSR606.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:04:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9C15F5.BD76AFF4@home.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:02:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New U.K. member / AMAZING STEVE DITKO Fanzine References: <97gbcm+ae82@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell paul.chester@britvic.co.uk wrote: > I was an avid reader of British comic fanzines in the mid to late > 70s and contributed to one or two. I used to enjoy some zines more > than the comics that were around at the time. I look forward to > learning stuff, being entertained and possibly discovering some > familiar names. So right now Ive got over 400 postings to look > through. Hope to be in touch soon, > All the Best, Paul Chester. Greetings, Paul. Do YOU know the deal on the mid-70s, U.K. (probably one-shot) fanzine called THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO?... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/amazsdUK.jpg SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jgjensen@uniontel.net Tue Feb 27 13:07:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 21:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8250 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 21:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 21:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 21:07:05 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod33.uniontel.net [209.94.180.43]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1RLAw926844 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:10:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00a701c0a0f9$8a3e1840$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:11:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi Jerry, Yea, I think that I can scan the master, but an not sure how to mirror image that, I will go to that program and see. The image is very dark on the back side, the top side is too light. Thanks, for the info, will try to make it work. Still it would be cool to have a 30 year old ditto zine out today. Somewhere around here is the art for the proposed front cover... Strangely, the keeper of everything (me) has also a copy of the list of subscribers for that issue or the one before, who can remember 30 years ago, will put that up on the list to see if anyone is left out there. I see the letters page in this issue has letters by Ron Foss, D. Bruce Berry and Horror writer Robert Bloch. It features a nice interview with Dan Berry too. My fingers are getting blue from looking at this, so will sign off. Jon -----Original Message----- From: JerryBails@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker > >In a message dated 2/27/01 3:03:32 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: > ><< Hi my name is Jon Jensen, a long time collector and fanzine editor cira >1967-69 or so. I was giving Steve here some data on my zines and we swapped >some zines. Strangly enough while looking for old Cloak and Daggers (my >zine), I came across the next issue I was to print #3 completely done on >Agua Clean ditto masters!!! >Way cool, I have not seen the thing in 30 years or so (it was never >published). The question is how do you print ditto masters these days? >Sort of like computer punch cards of the same era. Any thoughts, and how >many copies do you guys want? Thanks Jon Jensen Oh, and I have unearthed >about 12 copies of #2 from 1969, will entertain offers of trade for your >old fanzines, preferably from that era. Thanks again. >> > >Why not scan the ditto master and print it out or transmit it? Alternately, >Xerox the master. If you scan the carbon side, which may provide a darker >line, then you'd have to use software to reverse the image. If you used >hard-lead pencil to draw on the master, a scan of the top of the master may >have to be made more contrasty, but you can do that too. In any event, just >digitalize it. > >Bestest, > >Jerry > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From jgjensen@uniontel.net Tue Feb 27 13:37:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 21:37:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 74740 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 21:37:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 21:37:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 21:37:12 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod33.uniontel.net [209.94.180.43]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1RLf5905073 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:41:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00cf01c0a0fd$bf64d3c0$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: New U.K. member / AMAZING STEVE DITKO Fanzine Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:42:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi Blake, This is a nonsequitur, but I was looking for some thing else this last week and ran accoss this copy of Mr A from Phase publications/Comic art publications from 1973, I take it you have a copy and Robin Snyder has it on the list, yes? Thanks, Jon Jensen -----Original Message----- From: Blake Bell To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: [cbzines] Re: New U.K. member / AMAZING STEVE DITKO Fanzine > >paul.chester@britvic.co.uk wrote: >> I was an avid reader of British comic fanzines in the mid to late >> 70s and contributed to one or two. I used to enjoy some zines more >> than the comics that were around at the time. I look forward to >> learning stuff, being entertained and possibly discovering some >> familiar names. So right now Ive got over 400 postings to look >> through. Hope to be in touch soon, >> All the Best, Paul Chester. > > Greetings, Paul. > Do YOU know the deal on the mid-70s, U.K. (probably one-shot) >fanzine called THE AMAZING STEVE DITKO?... > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/amazsdUK.jpg > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > >* It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today >* Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html >* Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html >* The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Feb 27 15:12:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Feb 2001 23:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25775 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 23:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2001 23:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 23:11:51 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.b2.11d096a8 (4199) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:11:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:11:41 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Media used in the first fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/27/01 4:12:15 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: << Hi Jerry, Yea, I think that I can scan the master, but an not sure how to mirror image that, I will go to that program and see. The image is very dark on the back side, the top side is too light. Thanks, for the info, will try to make it work. Still it would be cool to have a 30 year old ditto zine out today. Somewhere around here is the art for the proposed front cover... Strangely, the keeper of everything (me) has also a copy of the list of subscribers for that issue or the one before, who can remember 30 years ago, will put that up on the list to see if anyone is left out there. I see the letters page in this issue has letters by Ron Foss, D. Bruce Berry and Horror writer Robert Bloch. It features a nice interview with Dan Berry too. My fingers are getting blue from looking at this, so will sign off. Jon >> Jon, I'm not sure how to get a mirror image either, but I'll bet someone on this list does. As a teenager, I used to sell ditto masters and memeo stencils (for an office supply company) and I learned quickly that ditto carbon, as it ages, losses the ability to make good copies. So, assuming you could even find an old ditto machine, after all this time you might get only a few legible copies before they start to fade badly. This rapid fading of old masters was my selling point for pushing new silk-screen memeograph machines in 1951, in particular, the Rex Rotary machine that we sold to the Milwaukee School Systems. It was such a superior process. I did a detailed, shaded drawing of the Flying Red Horse in two colors to demonstrate the versatility of the silk screen process. The Rex had perfect registration, better than many comics of the time. I was simply too poor to own one of my own for many years. I started ALTER-EGO (my hyphen) with a very cheap, portable (think "laptop") ditto machine. It was little more than a tray, a wet wick, and a small roller. Hand-fed, it produced one copy at a time. I acquired a Rex Rotary years later to do THE PANELOLOGIST for CAPA-alpha, but ALTER-EGO had long since switched to photo-offset. Even as a kid in 1949-50, I had used photo-offset to produce my own newspaper THE NEWS COMMENTARIES, which was a BIG move up from hand-setting the type on my toy printing press. Those of us who owned this little toy used to correspond and share ideas. These were true fanzines, although not devoted to comics. One idea I tried successfully with the little printing press (or maybe invented; I don't recall) was to make my own crossword puzzle. I obtained blank rubber of the right thickness (from the office supply store where I later worked). Then I cut up little squares, (solids and blanks) and mounted them as I did the moveable type. I label the rows and columns as we do now in spreadsheets. It was more work than it was worth for an assymetrical puzzle, so when it came to Alter-Ego #1, I used a simple acrostic, where the secret word identified a Syd Greene drawing of Julie Schwartz, lifted from an issue of Strange Adventures. That was a lot less work, believe me. By the way, it was the first tribute to Julie in a comics fanzine. In any event, scans of old ditto'd pages are not very satisfactory. Trying to read them with an OCR is maddening. Too many "typos". Roy Thomas' crew did manage to get a fairly good take on the cover of my Authoritative Index to All-Star Comics (page 9 of ALL-STAR COMPANION). That was a ditto cover. I just thought of another strategy to get copies of your ditto masters. Make a high-contrast Xerox of the light top of the master, and scan that. In fact, you might be able to skip the Xerox step and simply enhance the contrast of the scanned image. Back in the early days of fanzines, I was always looking for work-arounds. I used to themofax (with a real thermofax machine, with heat and all) pages of comics because the fax dropped out the color, yielding a line drawing, which then could be Xeroxed to use in paste-ups of camera-ready copy for photo-offset. The very first volume of the first edition of the Who's Who of American Comic Books was done this way. (It saved big dollars; I simply could not afford to drop the color photographically. I had Shel Dorf work from collages of early comics pages, but the cost was prohibitive, especially since DC required me to pay for every image I used. Later, higher ups at DC told me, "Never ask again. That gets the lawyers involved." I got similar advice from Marvel. Unfortunately, the lettering in WW#1 was not reproduced well by a thermofax. I had to do a hurried touch-up of the lettering and that was not my forte. As a last-minute lark, I inserting my birthday into the word balloon of a panel of the Hangman by Bob Fijitani. It was not a very great sample of this fine artist's talent but all I had access to. Apparently that didn't matter to Joe Brancitelli, who lifted the panel to use in Maurice Horn's 1976 THE WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMICS. Joe borrowed more than just that panel. Most of his write-ups are taken directly from my Who's Who. He just wrote up my biographical entries in discursive prose. I did the research; he got paid. In those days, I was hurting for money (having paid DC all I made on the first volume of the WW), so I wasn't too pleased with only my name listed in the acknowledgements. I was never asked for help. It was just taken. At least, I deserved a free copy of the book from Chelsea House, not that I consult it much. Anyway, THE WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMICS, not noted for being the most accurate source of information is accurate in one regard. It has my birthday correct on page 302. I'll bet every faned has interesting stories to tell about making-do with what resources he had. I'd enjoy hearing them. Bestest, Jerry From jgjensen@uniontel.net Tue Feb 27 16:31:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 00:31:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16603 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 00:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 00:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 00:31:03 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod33.uniontel.net [209.94.180.43]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f1S0Yu920466 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:34:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <01c301c0a116$0905c760$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Media used in the first fanzines Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:35:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hey Jerry, Good to hear from you again, I was thinking that I could scan the ink portions of the ditto masters, it would be white letters on black backgrounds, but might work. We'll see. The World Encyclopedia of Comics which I have, is not much of a reference book, but interesting. I will look up page #302 to check, if I can find the darn thing in the Vault (read basement). I like you have to go through a lot to get to my source material, being we do not have a stairway to the basement, unless you go outside to the Bilco doors to go down. Better than nothing, I guess. Later, Jon Jensen -----Original Message----- From: JerryBails@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Media used in the first fanzines > >In a message dated 2/27/01 4:12:15 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: > ><< Hi Jerry, >Yea, I think that I can scan the master, but an not sure how to mirror image >that, I will go to that program and see. The image is very dark on the back >side, the top side is too light. Thanks, for the info, will try to make it >work. Still it would be cool to have a 30 year old ditto zine out today. >Somewhere around here is the art for the proposed front cover... Strangely, >the keeper of everything (me) has also a copy of the list of subscribers for >that issue or the one before, who can remember 30 years ago, will put that >up on the list to see if anyone is left out there. I see the letters page >in this issue has letters by Ron Foss, D. Bruce Berry and Horror writer >Robert Bloch. It features a nice interview with Dan Berry too. My fingers >are getting blue from looking at this, so will sign off. Jon >>> > >Jon, > >I'm not sure how to get a mirror image either, but I'll bet someone on this >list does. > >As a teenager, I used to sell ditto masters and memeo stencils (for an office >supply company) and I learned quickly that ditto carbon, as it ages, losses >the ability to make good copies. So, assuming you could even find an old >ditto machine, after all this time you might get only a few legible copies >before they start to fade badly. This rapid fading of old masters was my >selling point for pushing new silk-screen memeograph machines in 1951, in >particular, the Rex Rotary machine that we sold to the Milwaukee School >Systems. It was such a superior process. I did a detailed, shaded drawing >of the Flying Red Horse in two colors to demonstrate the versatility of the >silk screen process. The Rex had perfect registration, better than many >comics of the time. > >I was simply too poor to own one of my own for many years. I started >ALTER-EGO (my hyphen) with a very cheap, portable (think "laptop") ditto >machine. It was little more than a tray, a wet wick, and a small roller. >Hand-fed, it produced one copy at a time. I acquired a Rex Rotary years >later to do THE PANELOLOGIST for CAPA-alpha, but ALTER-EGO had long since >switched to photo-offset. > >Even as a kid in 1949-50, I had used photo-offset to produce my own newspaper >THE NEWS COMMENTARIES, which was a BIG move up from hand-setting the type on >my toy printing press. Those of us who owned this little toy used to >correspond and share ideas. These were true fanzines, although not devoted >to comics. > >One idea I tried successfully with the little printing press (or maybe >invented; I don't recall) was to make my own crossword puzzle. I obtained >blank rubber of the right thickness (from the office supply store where I >later worked). Then I cut up little squares, (solids and blanks) and mounted >them as I did the moveable type. I label the rows and columns as we do now >in spreadsheets. It was more work than it was worth for an assymetrical >puzzle, so when it came to Alter-Ego #1, I used a simple acrostic, where the >secret word identified a Syd Greene drawing of Julie Schwartz, lifted from an >issue of Strange Adventures. That was a lot less work, believe me. By the >way, it was the first tribute to Julie in a comics fanzine. > >In any event, scans of old ditto'd pages are not very satisfactory. Trying >to read them with an OCR is maddening. Too many "typos". Roy Thomas' crew >did manage to get a fairly good take on the cover of my Authoritative Index >to All-Star Comics (page 9 of ALL-STAR COMPANION). That was a ditto cover. > >I just thought of another strategy to get copies of your ditto masters. Make >a high-contrast Xerox of the light top of the master, and scan that. In >fact, you might be able to skip the Xerox step and simply enhance the >contrast of the scanned image. > >Back in the early days of fanzines, I was always looking for work-arounds. I >used to themofax (with a real thermofax machine, with heat and all) pages of >comics because the fax dropped out the color, yielding a line drawing, which >then could be Xeroxed to use in paste-ups of camera-ready copy for >photo-offset. The very first volume of the first edition of the Who's Who of >American Comic Books was done this way. (It saved big dollars; I simply >could not afford to drop the color photographically. I had Shel Dorf work >from collages of early comics pages, but the cost was prohibitive, especially >since DC required me to pay for every image I used. Later, higher ups at DC >told me, "Never ask again. That gets the lawyers involved." I got similar >advice from Marvel. > >Unfortunately, the lettering in WW#1 was not reproduced well by a thermofax. >I had to do a hurried touch-up of the lettering and that was not my forte. >As a last-minute lark, I inserting my birthday into the word balloon of a >panel of the Hangman by Bob Fijitani. It was not a very great sample of this >fine artist's talent but all I had access to. Apparently that didn't matter >to Joe Brancitelli, who lifted the panel to use in Maurice Horn's 1976 THE >WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMICS. Joe borrowed more than just that panel. Most >of his write-ups are taken directly from my Who's Who. He just wrote up my >biographical entries in discursive prose. I did the research; he got paid. >In those days, I was hurting for money (having paid DC all I made on the >first volume of the WW), so I wasn't too pleased with only my name listed in >the acknowledgements. I was never asked for help. It was just taken. At >least, I deserved a free copy of the book from Chelsea House, not that I >consult it much. > >Anyway, THE WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMICS, not noted for being the most >accurate source of information is accurate in one regard. It has my birthday >correct on page 302. > >I'll bet every faned has interesting stories to tell about making-do with >what resources he had. I'd enjoy hearing them. > >Bestest, > >Jerry > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Feb 27 18:20:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 02:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 8355 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 02:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 02:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 02:20:15 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.dd.10cdbb10 (3657) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:20:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:20:08 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Media used in the first fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/27/01 7:33:00 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: << I was thinking that I could scan the ink portions of the ditto masters, it would be white letters on black backgrounds, but might work. >> Huh? I may be losing it in my old age, when I make this transformation in my head, I don't come out where you seem to. There's a difference between a mirror image and a negative image. The white words on black background would still be backwards. I suppose you could retrain an intelligent OCR. You could name it a new font for dislexics, and send one to the White House. :-) Bestest, Jerry From mcatron@planetcable.net Tue Feb 27 19:28:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 03:28:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13703 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 03:27:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 03:27:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 04:28:22 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.4) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Media used in the first fanzines Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:27:08 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron On 2/27/01 9:20 PM Jerry Bails at JerryBails@aol.com said: > >In a message dated 2/27/01 7:33:00 PM, jgjensen@uniontel.net writes: > ><< I was thinking that I could scan the ink >portions of the ditto masters, it would be white letters on black >backgrounds, but might work. >> > >Huh? I may be losing it in my old age, when I make this transformation in >my >head, I don't come out where you seem to. There's a difference between a >mirror image and a negative image. The white words on black background >would >still be backwards. I suppose you could retrain an intelligent OCR. You >could name it a new font for dislexics, and send one to the White House. :-) > >Bestest, > >Jerry Both mirroring (or "flopping" in printer-ese) and reversing (changing black to white and vice-versa) are quite easy to do in Photoshop, and, I suspect, other image-editing programs. I have a pile of old comics film negatives I'm going to be experimenting with to see what I can get out of them. If you (Jon) would be willing to send me a page to do some experimental scans on, I could fiddle with the various settings and write up a procedure to get the best results. It's possible I could even automate the process with a script (called an "Action" in Photoshop). Since we'd be scanning from the ditto masters, I expect we could get pretty good quality. I know Bill Schelly talked about reproducing fanzine pages from ditto masters for his book, The Golden Age of Comic Fandom, and picking up details lost in normal ditto printing. As for OCR-ing it, that might pose some problems. In the end it might be more efficient just to re-type it. But it could be worth a try. You could publish the whole thing as a PDF file and post it on the web. A "lost fanzine classic!" From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue Feb 27 19:58:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 03:58:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 95030 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 03:58:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 03:58:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 03:58:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.41] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2001 03:58:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:58:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1976 Summer Con, Fireworks... Message-ID: <97ht11+t96k@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1018 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.220.197 From: jameshburns@webtv.net In response to my post about that Canadian videotaping of Phil Seuling's 1976 NY Comic Art Convention, someone, at the "Comic-Art" Yahoogroup, reasponded with an interesting memory about attending a Manhattan 4th of July parade, while hitting the con... All of which, made me remember this-- _____________________ ...On the night of the 4th, a TON of people involved with helping to run the convention, plus comics guests, dealers, and some fans-- At Phil Seuling's invitation-- ASCENDED to the roof of the McAlpin Hotel, to watch the special fireworks show, being done somewhere across the water, to mark the Bicentennial. Thirty, forty floors up, in the middle of Herald Square-- It was quite a view! But considering the age of the hotel (in fact, it was about to be closed within weeks, to be renovated into apartments, or something), and the number--at least a hundred, maybe more?--of people who had dared the skyline-- We were lucky that there was no-- Descension! :-) Best, Jim Burns From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Feb 28 00:24:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 59362 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ef.egroups.com) (10.1.2.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.240] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:24:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Scaning ditto's ( No, NOT Ditkos! ) Message-ID: <97icjt+vpl5@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 839 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.127 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I just aquired a copy of MASQUERADER #1., Mike Vizburg's zine from '62 or so. I scanned it into my PC, and it came out fairly well. I experimented in using various settings to try to strengthen the images and discovered by using the Greyscale color setting I got a stronger image for all colors. The ditto blue came out black. Running these pages through a Xerox set at high contrast gave me a pretty good ( Better than just readable image!) Of course, some was just too faded to get much better, and that darn green ink was terrible! By the way, I'm puting most of my oldest fanzines onto disk to save on wear and tear. I could make copies very easily and cheaply ( A blank disk costs around 50 cents in bulk!)that could hold dozens of zines each, BUT, would there be a copywrite problem with their distribution? Best, Gord From ditko37@home.com Wed Feb 28 08:41:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 16:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 73547 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 16:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 16:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 16:40:38 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010228164009.LYJU16595.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:40:09 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9D28E9.AAB96C19@home.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:35:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: MR. A. / RAPPORT #2 (Was Re: New U.K. member / AMAZING STEVE DITKO Fanzine) References: <00cf01c0a0fd$bf64d3c0$02000003@preferred-cust> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Jonathan G Jensen wrote: > This is a nonsequitur, but I was looking for some thing else this last week > and ran accoss this copy of Mr A from Phase publications/Comic art > publications from 1973, I take it you have a copy and Robin Snyder has it on > the list, yes? Thanks, Jon Jensen That's correct, Jon. All the info. is on my Ditko Looked Up checklists. I also received a very cool item, that being RAPPORT #2, a fanzine with a STEVE DITKO interview inside from 1966. Haven't opened it yet, but it should be tres interesant. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Wed Feb 28 14:03:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Feb 2001 22:03:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 57931 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 22:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2001 22:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 22:02:53 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.d5.2ee6ef4 (4262) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:02:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:02:39 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scaning ditto's ( No, NOT Ditkos! ) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 2/28/01 3:25:18 AM, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << I just aquired a copy of MASQUERADER #1., Mike Vizburg's zine from '62 or so. I scanned it into my PC, and it came out fairly well. I experimented in using various settings to try to strengthen the images and discovered by using the Greyscale color setting I got a stronger image for all colors. The ditto blue came out black. Running these pages through a Xerox set at high contrast gave me a pretty good ( Better than just readable image!) Of course, some was just too faded to get much better, and that darn green ink was terrible! By the way, I'm puting most of my oldest fanzines onto disk to save on wear and tear. I could make copies very easily and cheaply ( A blank disk costs around 50 cents in bulk!)that could hold dozens of zines each, BUT, would there be a copywrite problem with their distribution? Best, Gord >> That darn green ditto was notorious for being the worst of all colors to try to work with. The only appropriate use I ever made of it was to portray the Spectre. I did a cover of CAPA-alpha that way and, although it wasn't my intention, it appears as if I had planned to show the Spectre in his invisible mode. In the '40s, the Spectre and the Shadow were portrayed as invisible by using one of the lighter shades of green (or blue for the Shadow) instead of a black outline. You have my permission to scan and distribute any of my fanzines from the 1960s (none later), either on disk or via the Internet as long as you do two things: (1) charge only for the disks & shipping costs; and (2) add a line below each page scanned saying Reproduced courtesy of Jerry Bails. See http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ I'd appreciate receiving copies of the disks myself, although I'd hope someone was putting these early zines on a CD. (I just must get myself a CD writer; I'm falling behind technologically.) Bestest, Jerry From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Feb 28 16:00:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 1 Mar 2001 00:00:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 47733 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 00:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2001 00:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ml.egroups.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 00:00:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.163] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2001 00:00:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:00:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scaning ditto's ( No, NOT Ditkos! ) Message-ID: <97k3f7+lphe@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1019 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.19 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > > > You have my permission to scan and distribute any of my fanzines from the > 1960s (none later), either on disk or via the Internet as long as you do two > things: (1) charge only for the disks & shipping costs; *** Absolutly,I want to preserve and archive some of this before it's lost. It would be available to members of this list at cost, which would be rather low. and (2) add a line > below each page scanned saying > Reproduced courtesy of Jerry Bails. See http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ > > I'd appreciate receiving copies of the disks myself, **** Absolutly again! although I'd hope > someone was putting these early zines on a CD. (I just must get myself a CD > writer; I'm falling behind technologically.) > ***** I've found mine to be invaluable for storing and sharing data.Along with a scanner a CD writer is a great investment, and not too expensive in the long run, an external can run $150 to $200. Best, Gord From paul.chester@britvic.co.uk Fri Mar 02 08:04:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 2 Mar 2001 16:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 98137 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2001 16:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Mar 2001 16:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 16:03:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk Received: from [10.1.2.33] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2001 16:03:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:03:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: British Ditko fanzine Message-ID: <97og96+u26a@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 241 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 213.40.67.65 From: paul.chester@britvic.co.uk I believe the Ditko zine was one of several one-shots put out by Alan Austin of Comics Unlimited fame in the mid-seventies. Comics Unlimited was a mainstay of the UK scene in those days, full of interesting info and very entertaining. From bud@budplant.com Fri Mar 02 18:11:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 3 Mar 2001 02:11:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 42854 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2001 02:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Mar 2001 02:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 02:11:13 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G9L003NOMW3S7@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:00:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:54:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 27 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <011e01c0a384$ebbe1f10$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <982757707.252.41595.l10@yahoogroups.com> X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Al Dellinges sent me a couple boxes of back issues of his publications and a few others and I've been very delinquent on doing something with them. If anyone needs copies of Near Mint or any of his zines, drop me a note and I'll get inspired and sort them out. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:15 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 27 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 9 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: another fanzine editor introduction > From: Tony Isabella > 2. Near Mint > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > 3. Re: Near Mint > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > 4. Re: Near Mint > From: JerryBails@aol.com > 5. Re: Near Mint > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > 6. Re: fanzine ramblings... > From: ltucker@rt66.com > 7. Re: Re: Near Mint > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > 8. Re: Near Mint > From: flash14221@yahoo.com > 9. Re: Near Mint - how many issues?? > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:39:40 -0500 > From: Tony Isabella > Subject: Re: Re: another fanzine editor introduction > > At 03:28 AM 2/19/2001 -0000, Lyle wrote: > > >(I *love* the fact that you called the Oklahoman zine, OAF - Hah! Nice > sense >of humor).<<< > > Fandom has usually had the grace to take itself somewhat less than > completely serious. Remember TISOS (The Illegitimate Sons of Superman)? > > When I started a comics club in Cleveland in the early 1970s--a year or so > prior to my moving to NYC to work for Marvel--I called it the Graphic Arts > Society because I knew it would be abbreviated to GAS. To my delight, the > obvious jokes were made and made frequently. > > Tony Isabella > > > ********************************* > Tony's Tips: > http://www.wfcomics.com/tony > > Mailing address: > Tony Isabella > P.O. Box 1502 > Medina, OH 44258 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:12:25 -0000 > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > Subject: Near Mint > > Just checked the fanzine list in the files postings for the total > number of great Near Mint fanzines that were published by Al > Dellinges back in the 80's. The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > publishing?? > > Peter Hansen > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:03:27 EST > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > Subject: Re: Near Mint > > In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: > > > > The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > > and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > > publishing?? > > ---------- > Peter, > I have one with The Rocketeer and Bettie Page, in her stripes, on the cover > somewhere around here, is that one of those? If not, what issue # is that > please? > :o) > --steve cohen > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:38:05 EST > From: JerryBails@aol.com > Subject: Re: Near Mint > > > In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: > > >Just checked the fanzine list in the files postings for the total > >number of great Near Mint fanzines that were published by Al > >Dellinges back in the 80's. The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > >and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > >publishing?? > > > >Peter Hansen > > > > In addition to Near Mint, there were a number of one-shots put out by Alex. > > Drop a note to Alex at 211 Willow St., Milbrae, CA 94030 > > He probably has some extra copies lying around. He could certainly use the > mail to cheer him up. Encourage him to get wired. For his sake and ours. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:31:11 -0000 > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > Subject: Re: Near Mint > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., AIRBOYO2@A... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/20/01 1:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > porthmadog2001ca@y... writes: > > > > > > > The list stops at 27, but I have 30, 31, > > > and 36. Anyone have the full set, and a date when Al stopped > > > publishing?? > > > ---------- > > Peter, > > I have one with The Rocketeer and Bettie Page, in her stripes, on > the cover > > somewhere around here, is that one of those? If not, what issue # > is that > > please? > > :o) > > --steve cohen > > > > Steve > > The Rocketeer with Betti by Dave Stevens is Near Mint #24. A nice > issue with interesting stuff in there. > > Peter > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:12:25 -0000 > From: ltucker@rt66.com > Subject: Re: fanzine ramblings... > > "b bush" wrote: > > > No scanner in my possession, but I do have a digital camera. Will > > that work or do you want the scanned look? I certainly would be > >glad to eventually tackle a project like that in the next few months. > > Hi Bart! Anything you could do to help me with this project > would be *greatly* appreciated! A camera shot for color zines, if > you can get in nice and tight, would be excellent - if they're b&w > covers, a photocopy would probably work better, and then I could > scan the photocopy. Whatever works best for you, though, is good to > me. > > > This fanzine list has gotten me all fired up over those old zines of > > yesteryear, > > Pretty neat, huh? I think we've all been digging through some > stacks which haven't seen the light of day in awhile. > > >and as I'm finding time, I'm digging out those unsorted boxes of > > zines and hope to be able to bring up interesting topics for the > >list to ponder. > > Excellent - looking forward to future interaction with ya, Bart! > > --lyle tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:44:20 EST > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > Subject: Re: Re: Near Mint > > In a message dated 2/20/01 4:33:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca writes: > > > > The Rocketeer with Betti by Dave Stevens is Near Mint #24. A nice > > issue with interesting stuff in there. > > > > Peter > > ----------------------- > Yes, Peter, it is a beauty! > I'm just sorry that mine is in one of many boxes of comics and fanzines and > so forth in a rented storage facility. > Thanks, > --steve cohen > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:21:43 -0000 > From: flash14221@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Near Mint > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > **** I've been writing Al for a few months now, Sent him a copy of MM > and just generaly conversed. He still has a few of the Alter-Ego # 1-3 > reprinta available, I got a set ( Great stuff, loved his take on Roy's > Bestest League!). > He pretty much stated that he had dropped out because of > dissatisfaction with the direction of current comics and fandom. I > encouraged him that there was still a core of old timers ( probebly > about as many as in the early 60's) who still do care , and would > welcome and value his participation! > > In addition to Near Mint, there were a number of one-shots put out > by Alex. > > ****Great indexes to Joe Kubert, and as I recall Lou Fine and Bob > Powel as well! > > > Drop a note to Alex at 211 Willow St., Milbrae, CA 94030 > > **** DEFINITELY! > > > He probably has some extra copies lying around. He could certainly > use the > > mail to cheer him up. Encourage him to get wired. For his sake and > ours. > > > GORD > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:46:20 -0000 > From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca > Subject: Re: Near Mint - how many issues?? > > I still go back to my original question guys. How many issues of > Near Mint did Al publish?? > > Peter > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Mar 02 18:12:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 3 Mar 2001 02:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4685 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2001 02:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2001 02:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Mar 2001 02:12:49 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf07.rt66.com [206.206.85.27]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA12819 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:12:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AA05393.39D27770@rt66.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:14:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 34 References: <983439319.274.35880.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Blake Bell wrote: > I also received a very cool item, that being RAPPORT #2, a fanzine with > a STEVE DITKO interview inside from 1966. Muey excellente! > Haven't opened it yet, but it should be tres interesant. I'll bet it's pretty interesting, too. ;-D --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From gpfoley@earthlink.net Sat Mar 03 20:05:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 4 Mar 2001 04:05:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 35215 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2001 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 04:05:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.30] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2001 04:05:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:05:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <97seu0+ssuk@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <67.103f329b.27cc132b@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1860 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.138 From: "Jerry " Gosh, this could lead right into the famous Stan Lee-Jack Kirby fuss...... I think that the writer and artist have to share equal credit on new creations. But what about future writers and artist who make drastic changes on the character? --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > Jim, > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, and may > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an editor or > publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co-created a comics > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, if they are > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and the look of > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined many of the > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the utility belt, > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie stills of > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might think. His > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > > ------ > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@y... writes: > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo > was involved in this as well. many artist's create the > characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > overall finished product > --- jameshburns@w... wrote: > > > > (I hit the send key, too soon! Here's the > > article...) > > > > > > I thought that some of you here, might find this > > interesting, not just > > for the particulars of the discussed Dan DCarlo > > situation, but for the > > article's thoughts, on the current comics scene. > > > > Best, Jim Burns >> From gpfoley@earthlink.net Sat Mar 03 20:07:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gpfoley@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 4 Mar 2001 04:07:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 40130 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 04:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2001 04:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 04:07:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gpfoley@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.30] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2001 04:07:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:07:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comics.../NY TIMES Message-ID: <97sf26+sssm@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <97f753+323j@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2432 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.21.41.138 From: "Jerry " I know that Nick was one of my favorite fan-artist of the 70's. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jason Sacks" wrote: > Just FYI, the "Nick" in this thread is Nick Alenikov, who's published > hundreds of pinups and strips in various zines, both under his name > and under the nom de plume of "Filthy McNasty." > > - Jason > > > Hey, Jerry-- > > > > With me, you're preaching to the choir here! > > > > :-) > > > > I think you meant to address your response to "Nick," who was > comenting on the TIMES article I posted. > > > > Those coments were his, not mine! > > > > Oddly, in the recent history of comics, it does seem to be the > writer who has gotten far less credit than, obviously, deserved. > > > > 'Just like here! > > > > :-) > > > > Best, Jim Burns > > > > (By the way, I can't begin to express the tremendous kick I get, > out of being on a list with one of the fellows who helped spearhead > the whole modern (I mean, Silver Age!) incarnation of the comics- fan > phenomenon. Thanks, Jerry! Best, Jim) > > > > > > JerryBails@a... wrote: > > > Jim, > > > > > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a comics creation, > and may > > > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" suggestion from an > editor or > > > publisher, most of the writers I know that created or co- created > a comics > > > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. Most writers, > if they are > > > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting characters and > the look of > > > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for example, defined > many of the > > > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the gauntlets, the > utility belt, > > > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane with movie > stills of > > > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show what he wanted. > > > > > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than one might might > think. His > > > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in most cases. > > > > > > Bestest, > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > ------ > > > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, tarnknight69@y... writes: > > > > > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that dan carlo > > > was involved in this as well. many artist's create the > > > characters, from simple suggestions from the writer or > > > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > > > overall finished product From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sat Mar 03 22:29:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 4 Mar 2001 06:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 59125 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.118] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:28:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: zines Message-ID: <97snba+1s0s@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 40 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.35.174 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Bud, I thought you sold out to someone. From RJCroxton@aol.com Sun Mar 04 08:18:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 4 Mar 2001 16:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 79578 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2001 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.e5.3192e59 (4357) for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:18:11 EST Subject: TALES FROM THE ATTIC To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10505 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had several people ask me if back issues of TFTA were available. YES!!! All 5 issues are available and #6 will be ready March 15. Thanks everyone for your interest. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC Copies are $4 each postpaid. Richard Croxton 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bud@budplant.com Mon Mar 05 12:21:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 5 Mar 2001 20:20:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3746 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 20:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2001 20:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 20:20:55 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G9Q00ASBPAXY1@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:40:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:16:15 -0800 Subject: Fw: Flash Gordon To: comics apa Message-id: <017601c0a5ab$577d8b50$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have the time to help this fellow but perhaps one of you can lend h= im a hand. Thanks. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pedro L. L=F3pez Mart=EDnez=20 To: bud@budplant.com=20 Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Flash Gordon Hello!=20 Is a Spanish writer that this writing a book on Flash Gordon and needs bi= ographical data of designers of Flash like All Williamson, Ric Estrada, Bob= Fujitani, Ralph Reese, etc. do you have that material?Please answer me sin= ce here these books have not left.=20 Thank you!=20 An embrace!=20 Pedro L.=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Mar 05 13:03:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 5 Mar 2001 21:03:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 81717 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 20:58:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2001 20:58:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 20:58:54 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15361 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:58:53 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.47] (fre-37.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.47]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15275; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:58:52 -0600 Message-Id: <200103052058.OAA15275@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: E-Address ?? (Re: [cbzines] Fw: Flash Gordon Date: Mon, 5 Mar 01 14:57:02 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Cc: "Bud Plant" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Hello! > > Is a Spanish writer that this writing a book on Flash Gordon and needs >biographical data of designers of Flash like All Williamson, Ric Estrada, >Bob Fujitani, Ralph Reese, etc. do you have that material?Please answer me >since here these books have not left. > > Thank you! > > An embrace! > > Pedro L. Yo Bud - what's his e-address? -:) he MIGHT be better served going to the comic strip list at: comic-strip-classics@liss.olm.net bob From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Mar 05 13:34:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 5 Mar 2001 21:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24246 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 21:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2001 21:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 22:34:51 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.50.124030cf (25101) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:33:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50.124030cf.27d56011@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:33:05 EST Subject: Re: Flash Gordon To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 3/5/01 8:24:20 PM, bud@budplant.com writes: << I don't have the time to help this fellow but perhaps one of you can len= d=20 him a hand. Thanks. Best, Bud ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pedro L. L=F3pez Mart=EDnez=20 To: bud@budplant.com=20 Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Flash Gordon Hello!=20 Is a Spanish writer that this writing a book on Flash Gordon and needs=20 biographical data of designers of Flash like All Williamson, Ric Estrada, B= ob=20 Fujitani, Ralph Reese, etc. do you have that material?Please answer me sinc= e=20 here these books have not left.=20 Thank you!=20 An embrace!=20 Pedro L.=20 >> Pedro, Here's what I have in the Who's Who of 20th Century American Comic Books Pease send your readers to: http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ Additions and corrections are appreciated. My data ends with Dec. 31, 1999= . * means a title of a comic book or graphic novel, otherwise the listings in= =20 capital letters give the title ofd a strip. Contact me directly if there are others you need info on. Good luck. Bestest, Jerry Bails --------- WILLIAMSON, AL [born 1931] (artist, writer) Birthplace: Columbia; moved to the U.S.A. in 1943 Pen names: BALDO SMUDGE; HAROLD WILLIAMS; SMITHFIELD COBB (with Angelo=20 Torres); ZENO BECKWITH (Angelo Torres) Pen names: HAROLD WILLIAMS; BALDO SMUDGE; ROY WILLIAMS (with Roy Krenkel);= =20 ALBRET BLEVINSON (with Bret Blevins) Education: Cartoonists and Illustrators School Education: Pratt Institute Education: Trained with Burne Hogarth 1945-46 Wife: Arlene Williamson Influences: Alex Raymond, Carlos Clemen Member: National Cartoonists Society Magazine illustrations: Marvel Science Fiction 1952 Album Cover: Official Adventures of Flash Gordon 1966 Teacher: Joe Kubert School of Cartoon and Graphic Arts Book: Art of All Williamson 1983 Book: Art of All Williamson 1983 Hardcover illustrations: Edgar Rice Burroughs, Master of Adventure 1965 Biog. material in: Amazing Heroes #137, 1988 Biog. material in: Cartoonist PROfiles #3; Comics Scene #10, 1982 Biog. material in: Comics Journal #90, #100, 1984/85 Biog. material in: E.C. Lives! 1972; Great Comic Book Artists 1986 Biog. material in: Rocket's Blast-Comicollecor #96-98/102, 1972-73 Biog. material in: Spa Fon c1966; Third Rail #1, 1981 Biog. material in: The World Encyclopedia of Comics 1976/99 Honors: Fandom's Alley Award Best Penciller 1966 Honors: National Cartoonists Society Best Artist (story comic) 1966 Honors: Best Inker: Harvey Awards 1988 (Chicago) Honors: Harvey Award Best Inker 1988/89/90/91/93 Honors: Eisner Award Best Artist 1991 Honors: Eisner Award Best Inker 1991/97 Honors: Eisner Award: Best Inker 1997 Syndicated credits ____BIG BEN BOLT (asst a) 1963-76- ____FLASH GORDON (d) (asst lay) 1955 (2 wk) ____FLASH GORDON (d) (bkgrd)1953 (few), (ghost layouts) 1955 (2 weeks); (wk= )=20 (ghost layouts/p) 1999 ____JOHNNY COMET/ACE MC COY (d) (asst a) c1952 (1 week) ____RIP KIRBY (d) (asst lay) 1960 (6 mon) ____RIP KIRBY (d) (asst p) 1960-64 ____RIP KIRBY (d) (ghost a) 1964-65 ____SECRET AGENT CORRIGAN (d) (a) 1967-86 ____STAR WARS (wk/d) (a) 1981-84 ____TARZAN (wk) (asst a) 1948-49 (1 month) Small Press Comics __EDWIN APRILL ____CARTOONIST SHOWCASE~[SECRET AGENT X-9] (a) 1968-72 rep __SAN FRANCISCO COMIC BOOK COMPANY ____ALL STARS~(a) 1970 __WALLY WOOD/WITZEND/PEARSON ____SAVAGE WORLD~(w/a) 1966 ____TIME SPIRITS~(a) 1966 Advertising/Industrial/Educational/Promotional/Religious comics and premium= s ____FLASH GORDON (a) 1970-71 for Union Carbide Production: ECLIPSE (3-D process) 1986 Comics credits (alternate and joint publishers) __BIG APPLE PRODUCTIONS ____BIG APPLE COMIX~(a) 1975 __COMICO THE COMIC COMPANY/NORTHSTAR ____Adventure (i) 1988 ____COMICO CHRISTMAS SPECIAL~(i) 1988 ____Covers (i) 1986 ____JONNY QUEST (i) 1986 ____Pin-ups (i) 1986 __DRAGON LADY PRESS (Canada) ____Covers (a) 1986 __HERITAGE COLLECTION ____FLASH GORDON~[filler] (a) 1972 [GA] __KITCHEN SINK PRESS ____CADILLACS AND DINOSAURS~[introduction] (w) 1989 [GA] ____FLASH GORDON~[introduction] (w) 1990 [GA] ____HAWKS OF THE SEA~[introduction] (w) 1986 [GA] __NBM PUBLISHING, INC./FLYING BUTTRESS (U.K.) ____RAY BRADBURY CHRONICLES~(a) 1992 [GA] __NOSTALGIA PRESS ____FLASH GORDON~[introduction] (w) 1967 [GA] __PACIFIC COMICS ____ALIEN WORLDS~(a) 1982-83 __PIONEER BOOKS INC. ____OFFICIAL SECRET AGENT ALBUM~(a) 1988-89 [GA] rep __QUALITY COMIC ART PRODUCTIONS ____SECRET AGENT CORRIGAN [2 v.] 1980 rep __RENEGADE PRESS ____RENEGADE ROMANCE~(a) c1987 ____RAY BRADBURY COMICS~[A SOUND OF THUNDER] (a) 1993 rep ____FLASH GORDON: TREACHERY ON MONGO~(a)1982 [GA] rep Note: Comic-book work often (p) only or collaborations Fanzines: All-Stars (bacov) 1965 Comics credits (mainstream U.S. publishers) __AMERICAN COMICS GROUP/B & I ____ADVENTURES INTO THE UNKNOWN~(i) 1952 ____FORBIDDEN WORLDS~(a) 1951 ____Mystery (p) 1957-c60 ____OUT OF THE NIGHT~(a) 1952 ____Romance (p) 1950s __ARCHIE/MLJ/MIGHTY/RED CIRCLE/RADIO ____FLY, THE (p) 1959 __AVON COMICS/REALISTIC/AVON BOOKS ____CHIEF VICTORIO (p) 1951 ____Science fantasy (p) 1950s ____Western (p) 1951 __BANTAM BOOKS ____SECRET WORLD OF ROY WILLIAMS~(w/a) 1957 [GA] __BETTER/PINES/STANDARD/NEDOR ____Romance (p) 1950 __CHARLTON COMICS (& precursors CHARLES/LEVY/FRANK COMUNALE) ____CHEYENNE KID (p) 1957-58 ____TEXAS RANGERS (p) 1958 ____TEXAS RANGERS IN ACTION~(a) 1958 ____Western (p) 1957-58 ____WILD BILL HICKOK (p) c1958 ____WYATT EARP (p) 1958 __DARK HORSE/LEGEND ____CLASSIC STAR WARS~(a) 1992 [GA] rep ____Covers (a) 1992 __DC/AA/HELIX/IMPACT/MILESTONE/NATIONAL/PARADOX/PIRANHA/VERTIGO ____Covers (i) 1985 ____HOUSE OF MYSTERY~[misc.] (a) 1970 ____Pin-ups (a) 1984 ____SUPERMAN (i) 1984-86 ____Western (p) 1950s ____WHO'S WHO OF THE DC UNIVERSE entries (i) 1985/87 ____WITCHING HOUR~[misc.] (a) 1971 __EASTERN COLOR PRINTING/FAMOUS FUNNIES ____Covers (p) 1952 ____HEROIC~(a) 1948-49/51 ____Horror (p) 1952 ____Non-fiction (a) 1948-49/51 ____Romance (p) 1951 ____Science fantasy (p) 1952 __EC PUBLICATIONS/ENTERTAINING COMICS ____Covers (a) 1953/55 ____CRIME SUSPENSTORIES~(a) 1952-53 ____INCREDIBLE SCIENCE FICTION~(a) 1955 ____PIRACY~(p) 1954 ____SHOCK ILLUSTRATED~(a) 1956 ____SHOCK SUSPENSTORIES~(a) 1953 ____TALES FROM THE CRYPT~(a) 1952 ____VALOR~(p) 1955 ____VAULT OF HORROR~(a) 1954 ____WEIRD FANTASY~(a) 1952-53 ____WEIRD SCIENCE-FANTASY~(a) 1954-55 ____WEIRD SCIENCE~(a) 1952-53 __ECLIPSE ENTERPRISES ____ALIEN WORLDS~(a) 1984 ____CLIFF HANGER~(a) 1987 [GA] rep ____Covers (i) 1986 ____Pin-ups (a) 1984 ____WORLD OF WOOD~(a) late 1980s rep __FAWCETT PUBLICATIONS/FAWCETT COMICS ____CAPT. VIDEO (i) 1951 ____Romance (i) 1950 ____WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE (i) 1951 __FEATURE/CRESTWOOD/HEADLINE/PRIZE ____AMERICAN (a) 1955 ____FARGO KID (a) 1958 ____Western (p) 1955/58 __GILBERTON/CLASSICS ____WORLD AROUND US (a) 1959-60 __HARVEY/FAMILY (& precursors CHAMPION/BROOKWOOD/GREENWALD/WORTH) ____ALARMING ADVENTURES~(i) 1962, (p) 1963 ____ALARMING TALES~(a) 1958 ____BLAST OFF~(a) 1965 (inventory) ____CLAWFANG (p) 1966 ____DOUBLE-DARE ADVENTURES~(i) 1967 ____RACE FOR THE MOON~(i) 1958 __HILLMAN PERIODICALS ____Western (a) 1949 __K.K. PUBLICATIONS/DELL COMICS (to 1962) ____DODGE CITY DAYS (p) 1958 ____GUNSMOKE~(p) 1958-59 ____War (p) 1958 __KING COMICS/KING FEATURES SYNDICATE ____Covers (a) 1966-67 ____FLASH GORDON (w/a) 1966-67 __MAJOR MAGAZINES/HUMOR VISION/GLOBE COMMUNICATIONS/SPROUL ____CRACKED~(a) 1958 __MARVEL/TIMELY/STAR (80s)/EPIC/ATLAS (50s) ____Adaptations (p) 1982 ____Adventure (i) 1985 ____AMAZING HIGH ADVENTURES~(i) 1985 ____ATOMIC AGE (i) 1990-91 ____AVENGERS (i) 1987 ____BATTLE~(p) 1959 ____BLADE RUNNER (p) 1982 ____BOZZ (i) 1986 ____BOZZ CHRONICLES (i) 1986 ____BUCKSKIN~[filler] (p) 1955-56 ____CAPT. AMERICA (i) 1986 ____Cartoon (i) 1986 ____CLOAK AND DAGGER (i) 1987/90-91 ____CLOAK AND DAGGER: PREDATOR AND PREY~(i) 1988 [GA] ____CONAN (i) 1986 ____Covers (a) 1956, (p) 1982, (i) 1985-92 ____D.P. 7 (i) 1987 ____DAMAGE CONTROL (i) 1989 ____DAREDEVIL (i) 1987/91 ____DROIDS (i) 1986-87 ____EPIC ILLUSTRATED~[illustrations] (A) 1982 ____FAFHRD AND GREY MOUSER (i) 1990-91 ____HEROES FOR HOPE: X-MEN (i) 1985 ____HULK (i) 1985 ____INHUMANS~(i) 1988 [GA] ____JANN OF THE JUNGLE (p) 1956-57 ____JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY~(a) 1959 ____KID COLT~(p) 1956/60 ____MATT SLADE GUNFIGHTER~(p) 1956-57 ____MICROCHIP (i) 1992 ____MOCKINGBIRD (i) 1987 ____MOONKNIGHT (i) 1987 ____Mystery (p) 1956-57 ____OFFICIAL MARVEL INDEX TO THE AVENGERS~[cov] (i) 1995 ____OUTLAW KID~(p) 1955-57 ____Pin-ups (i) 1991-92 ____PSI FORCE (i) 1987 ____PUNISHER, THE (i) 1989/91-92 ____RAWHIDE KID~(a) 1956 ____RETURN OF THE JEDI (p) 1983-84 ____Romance (a) 1959 ____SOLOMON KANE (i) 1986 ____SPIDER-MAN (i) 1991-96 ____SPIDER-MAN 2099 (i) 1992 ____SPIDER-MAN VS. WOLVERINE (i) 1987 ____SPIDER-MAN: 2099 (i) 1992-95 ____Spot illustrations (i) 1985 ____SQUADRON SUPREME, THE~(i) 1989 [GA] ____STAR WARS (a) 1985 ____STAR WARS (w) 1980 ____STARBRAND (i) 1986-87 ____STRANGE TALES~(a) 1957-58 ____THOR (i) 1986 ____THUNDERCATS (i) 1987 ____TIME SPIRITS (a) 1985 rep ____TOMB OF DRACULA (i) 1991-92 ____UNTOLD TALES OF SPIDER-MAN (i) 1996 ____War (p) 1956-58 ____WHAT IF...? (p) 1982 ____WOLVERINE (i) 1988-89 ____WOLVERINE AND NIGHTCRAWLER (i) 1992 ____X-MEN (i) 1986 ____X-MEN VS. AVENGERS (i) 1987 __ME/MAGAZINE ENTERPRISES/SUSSEX ____JET POWERS (p) 1951 __TOBY/MINOAN ____BILLY THE KID ADVENTURE MAGAZINE~(a) c1950-53 ____JOHN WAYNE (p) early 1950s ____Science fantasy (p) early 1950s ____Western (p) c1950-c53 __TOR BOOKS ____Specifics? __TOWER COMICS ____Covers (p) 1966 __WARREN/GENERAL PROMOTIONS ____CREEPY~(a) 1964-65/76/79 ____EERIE~(a) 1966 ____War (a) 1960s __WESTERN PUBLISHING/WHITMAN/GOLD KEY ____BELIEVE IT OR NOT~(a) 1965-66 ____BORIS KARLOFF~(a) -1965- ____FLASH GORDON (a) 1980-81 ____GRIMM'S GHOST STORIES~(a) 1972 ____HAPPY DAYS (a) 1979 ____TWILIGHT ZONE~(a) 1965/73 ____UFO~(a) 1978 >Some data provided by AL WILLIAMSON ---- ESTRADA, RIC [born 1928] (artist) Nee RICARDO LEON ESTRADA; birthplace: Cuba Education: Landon Correspondence School; Famous Artists School=20 (correspondence) Formerly married to: Sigrid Estrada Illustrations: 5 volume Famous Writers Course; Oliver Twist, 1979 Moby Book= s Illustrations: Picture World Encyclopedia 1959; Topps Gum postcards; German= =20 papers Magazine illustrations: Alfred Hitchcock Magazine; Manhunt Magazine Art direction: Famous Artists Course Writer: Novels and movies (Europe 1960-66) Juvenile books (p) Superman and Batman 1976 LGB; Super Friends 1978 LGB Juvenile books (p) Wonder Woman 1978 LGB; Superman 1978 LGB Juvenile books: Fireman and Fire Engine Stamps (color art) 1959; Batman (p)= =20 1978 LGB Animation director [Hanna-Barbera] Jonny Quest 1986 Animation assistant [Joe Oriolo] [c1948) Animation layouts [Filmation] He-Man and the Masters of the Universe 1983 Animation model sheets/character design [Hanna-Barbera] Galtar 1986 Animation storyboards [Deutche Dokumentar Film] (West Berlin TV) Animation storyboards [TMS] Bionic Six 1987 Teacher: Joe Kubert School of Cartooning and Graphic Arts 1976 Posters: Turkish Tourist Organization Book illustrations: Barter, Bills and Banks 1970; Goats Who Killed the Leop= ard Book illustrations: Magic with Photography; Magic with Science; The Green=20 Green Sea; To Catch a Fly Biog. material in: Star Hunters #7 Syndicated credits ____FLASH GORDON (d) (ghost p) 1952 (1 week)/1958/62-63/68-76 Comics credits (small press comics) __STAR RIDER PRODUCTIONS (Canada) ____KOMPUTEER KEEN~(w/a) 1982 Advertising comics for Ford Tractors Advertising/Industrial/Educational/Promotional/Religious comics and premium= s ____WONDER WOMAN (a) 1980 for General Foods Comics in Germany ____HOT AND SWEETIE (w/a) in Sonne Comics credits (alternate and joint publishers) __WARP GRAPHICS ____ELFQUEST: NEW BLOOD (p) 1995 Comics credits (mainstream U.S. publishers) __BETTER/PINES/STANDARD/NEDOR ____Western (a) 1951 __CHARLTON COMICS (& precursors CHARLES/LEVY/FRANK COMUNALE) ____FIGHTIN' ARMY~(a) 1973 ____FIGHTIN' MARINES~(a) 1973-74 __DC/AA/HELIX/IMPACT/MILESTONE/NATIONAL/PARADOX/PIRANHA/VERTIGO ____AMETHYST (p) 1984-85 ____BATMAN TEAM-UPS (p) 1978 ____BEOWULF (layout) 1975-76 ____BLACKHAWK (p) 1976-77 ____BLITZKRIEG (a) 1976 ____BOB KANIGHER'S GALLERY OF WAR (a) 1975 ____Covers (p) 1969-71/76-77 ____CREEPER AND WILDCAT (p) 1977 ____CREEPER, THE (p) 1976 ____CURIOSITY SHOP (a) 1982 ____DATELINE/FRONTLINE (a) 1980-81 ____DOORWAY TO NIGHTMARE~ (p) 1978 ____FALLING IN LOVE~(a) 1969/72 ____Fillers (a) 1969 ____FIREHAIR (w/a) 1969 ____FLASH AND HAWKMAN (p) 1976 ____FREEDOM FIGHTERS (a) 1970; (p) 1976 ____G.I. COMBAT~(w/a) 1972; (a) 1972/74-78 ____GHOSTS~(p) 1981 ____GIRLS' LOVE STORIES~(p) 1968-73 ____GREAT BATTLES OF HISTORY (a) 1970 ____HEART THROBS~(p) 1969-70 ____HOT WHEELS (a) 1970-71 ____HOUSE OF MYSTERY~(a) 1971/77-82 ____HUNS, THE (a) 1976 ____ISIS (p) 1976 ____JUNGLE JUSTICE (a) 1975 ____JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA (p) 1976 ____JUSTICE, INC. (p) 1975 ____KARATE KID (p) 1976-77 ____LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES (p) 1977/80 ____LIEUTENANT LARRY ROCK (a) 1977 ____LOSERS, THE (p) 1976 ____NUBIA (p) 1973-74 ____O.S.S. (a) 1976-78 ____OUR ARMY AT WAR~(a) 1955/69-77 ____OUR FIGHTING FORCES~(a) 1970-73/76; (w) 1972/74 ____PLOP!~(a) 1975 ____RANGERS, THE (a) 1978 ____RICHARD DRAGON (a) 1975-77 ____RIMA~(w) 1975 ____SECRET HEARTS~(p) 1969-71 ____SECRETS OF HAUNTED HOUSE~(a) 1981-82 ____SERGEANT ROCK (a) 1975-80 ____SPACE MARSHALL (a) 1974 ____STAR SPANGLED WAR STORIES~(a) 1969-74 ____STAR TREK (p) 1984 ____STEVE SAVAGE (w) 1971 ____SUPER FRIENDS (p) 1976 ____SUPER SQUAD/JSA (p) 1976-77 ____SUPERMAN AND BATMAN (p) 1980 ____UNEXPECTED, THE~(p) 1979-82 ____UNKNOWN SOLDIER, THE~[miscellaneous] (a) 1977-80/82 ____WEIRD WAR TALES~(a) 1975/77-83 ____WELCOME BACK, KOTTER (p) 1977-78 ____WHO'S WHO entries (a) 1986 ____WOMEN AT WAR (a) 1978 ____WONDER GIRL (p) 1980 ____WONDER WOMAN (p) 1973-74/78-80 ____YOUNG LOVE~(a) 1971 ____YOUNG ROMANCE~(a) 1969-73 __DISNEY/HOLLYWOOD ____PONYTAILERS, THE (a) 1992 __EC PUBLICATIONS/ENTERTAINING COMICS ____FRONTLINE COMBAT~(a) 1953 ____TWO-FISTED TALES~(a) 1952 __ECLIPSE ENTERPRISES ____AMBER (p) 1984 ____DNAGENTS (p) 1984 __FEATURE/CRESTWOOD/HEADLINE/PRIZE ____Crime (a) 1955 __FOX COMICS ____Romance (a) c1950 __HILLMAN PERIODICALS ____Crime (p) 1949-52 ____Western (p) 1949-52 __KING COMICS/KING FEATURES SYNDICATE ____BATTLES OF HISTORY (a) 1967 ____FLASH GORDON (p) 1967 __PIERCE PUBLISHING COMPANY ____FRANTIC~(a) 1958 __SEABOARD/ATLAS (70s) ____DEVILINA (w/a) 1975 ____PHOENIX (p) 1975 __ST. JOHN/JUBILEE ____Romance (a) 1952-58 __TOR BOOKS ____FLASH GORDON: TREACHERY ON MONGO~(a) 1982 [GA] rep __WARREN/GENERAL PROMOTIONS ____EERIE~(a) 1967 __ZIFF-DAVIS ____BASEBALL THRILL'S~(a) 1951 ____BILL STERN'S SPORTS BOOK~(a) 1952 ____FOOTBALL THRILLS~(a) 1952 ____G.I. JOE (a) early 1950s ---- FUJITANI, BOB (artist, writer) Pen names: BOB FUJE; BOB WELLS (in syndication) Education: American School of Design (NYC) Magazine illustrations: Golden Magazine 1969-70 Commercial art: Advertising thru agencies Syndicated credits ____FLASH GORDON (d) (asst/ghost a) 1963-65/71--77; (d) (a) 1978-86; (d) (a= )=20 1990 (rep from 1980) ____FLASH GORDON (wk) (ghost a) 1969-86, (a) 1990 (3 months; rep from 1981) ____JUDGE WRIGHT (d) (p) 1945-47 ____MANDRAKE THE MAGICIAN (d) (ghost a) 1966 (1 week) ____RIP KIRBY (d) (ghost/a) 1994-98 ____SPACE CONQUERORS (a) for Boys' Life Small Press Comics __PARAGON PUBLICATIONS ____STAR FEMS~(a) 1982 Advertising comics: ____TRUE STORY OF SMOKEY THE BEAR, THE (a) 1959 for the U.S. Forest Service Shop work: COLE (a) 1944-45 Independent & Joint Publishers __MANUSCRIPT PRESS ____COMICS REVUE~[FLASH GORDON] (a) 1980s-90s Comics credits (mainstream U.S. publishers) __ACE PERIODICALS/ACE BOOKS ____LASH LIGHTNING (a) 1945 ____SWORD, THE (a) 1945 __ARCHIE/MLJ/MIGHTY/RED CIRCLE/RADIO ____BLACK HOOD, THE (w) 1944 ____HANGMAN, THE (a) 1942-44 __AVON COMICS/REALISTIC/AVON BOOKS ____Specifics ?? (a) 1947/50 __ECLIPSE ENTERPRISES ____AIR FIGHTERS CLASSICS~[FLYING DUTCHMAN] (a) 1987-88 [GA] rep __FAWCETT PUBLICATIONS/FAWCETT COMICS ____MR. SCARLET (a) 1948 __FEATURE/CRESTWOOD/HEADLINE/PRIZE ____DR. STYX (a) 1945 __HARVEY/FAMILY (& precursors CHAMPION/BROOKWOOD/GREENWALD/WORTH) ____JOHNNY REBEL (a) 1943 ____SHOCK GIBSON (a) 1945-46 ____ZEBRA (a) 1945-46 __HILLMAN PERIODICALS ____AIRBOY~[misc. From jameshburns@webtv.net Mon Mar 05 19:16:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 03:16:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 80663 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 03:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 03:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 03:16:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.64] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2001 03:16:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:16:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Message-ID: <981kpv+3mpn@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <017601c0a5ab$577d8b50$1b02a8c0@bud> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1284 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.222.130 From: jameshburns@webtv.net I always felt that one of the great mysteries of comic strip history-- Well, maybe not "great"-- :-) Was why more mainstream feature articles on Alex Raymond, from the period in which he was doing FLASH GORDON, or later, never seem to have popped up. FLASH GORDON was a SENSATION, when first published/syndicated. (The second film, Buster Crabbe, serial, in fact, earned a cover on, and multi-issue story in, LOOK MAGAZINE!) But aside from that magazine piece I've seen reprinted, showing Alex Raymond using a live model to help draw FLASH-- And the chapter in Martin Sheridan's 1942 book, CLASSIC COMICS AND THEIR CREATORS-- There seems to have been very little material on Alex Raymond, to have surfaced. You would think that a hometown paper, for Raymond, in Connecticut, might have done a big interview with him, at one point... Or that STARS AND STRIPES, during World War II, would have run a feature on the artist. (In 1944, accroding to one of the NOSTALGIA PRESS FLASH GORDON volumes, Raymond was "commisioned a a captain in the Marine Corp Reserve," when he was thirty-five.) I'd happily be wrong about thus! Do any of you folks here, know of published interviews with Alex Raymond, from ANY of his "comic strip" eras? Thanks! Jim Burns (James H. Burns) From alortie@tmlp.com Tue Mar 06 05:51:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 13:51:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 70020 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 13:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 13:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 14:52:16 -0000 Received: from alortie (modem263.tmlp.com [207.86.249.28]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA14620 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:52:23 -0500 Message-ID: <049601c0a644$01240a60$8bf956cf@tmlp.com> To: References: <983867308.200.40500.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:47:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" From: jameshburns@webtv.net > I always felt that one of the great mysteries of comic strip history-- > Was why more mainstream feature articles on Alex Raymond, > from the period in which he was doing FLASH GORDON, or > later, never seem to have popped up. > But aside from that magazine piece I've seen reprinted, showing Alex > Raymond using a live model to help draw FLASH-- > You would think that a hometown paper, for Raymond, in Connecticut, > might have done a big interview with him, at one point... Or that STARS > AND STRIPES, during World War II, would have run a feature on the artist. While I don't have the complete list on this computer, there was probably more mainstream info on Raymond than any of the other artists and writers toiling at that time (maybe Chester Gould, Milton Caniff, or Hal Foster -- none of whom I've researched -- have more?). The feature you describe above was often reprinted but the original source seems to be Four-Color (Dell) #10 [at least the date of that book coincides with the ages of his children]. But I have a Look, a Life, a Popular Science, etc. with articles on Raymond. [Admittedly, while each run different artwork, they all seem to use the same photos or self portrait] He even gets a listing in Contemporary Authors -- although that wasn't his venue. What makes you say that neither STARS and STRIPES nor his hometown paper ran articles? Here's just a FEW of the web sites that give info on his career (and I'm only listing the ones in English; Italians LOVE Alex!): http://cagle.slate.msn.com/hogan/features/raymond.asp [Stan Drake -- who was there -- talks about Alex's apparent suicide] http://www.keefestudios.com/flashfile/raymondbio.htm [Present Flash Gordon artist Jim Keefe presents a bio] http://www.keefestudios.com/flashfile/raymondbio.htm [Michigan State University lists a dozen or so printed sources] And I have a few pieces at: http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/keefe/raymond46.JPG http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/keefe/raymond49a.JPG http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/keefe/raymond49b.JPG Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue Mar 06 06:09:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 14:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28937 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 14:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 14:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 14:09:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.125] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2001 14:09:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 14:09:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Message-ID: <982r29+ujhg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <049601c0a644$01240a60$8bf956cf@tmlp.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 188 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.84 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Thanks for the info, Arthur! Would you mind listing the URL for the Michigan State site, though? (You accdentally relisted Jim Keefe's website address.) Thanks again! Best, Jim Burns From mvhaas@elpaso.net Tue Mar 06 06:48:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 14:48:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14805 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 14:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 14:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server) (208.169.36.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 14:48:31 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26EmTb11517 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:48:29 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <983867308.200.40500.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <983867308.200.40500.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:37:06 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas >Jim Burns wrote: > >There seems to have been very little material on Alex Raymond, to >have surfaced. > >You would think that a hometown paper, for Raymond, in Connecticut, >might have done a big interview with him, at one point... Or that >STARS AND STRIPES, during World War II, would have run a feature on >the artist. > >(In 1944, accroding to one of the NOSTALGIA PRESS FLASH GORDON >volumes, Raymond was "commisioned a a captain in the Marine Corp >Reserve," when he was thirty-five.) > >I'd happily be wrong about thus! > >Do any of you folks here, know of published interviews with Alex >Raymond, from ANY of his "comic strip" eras? This may not be "mainstream", but there's an article on Raymond, with photos, on the inside covers of Flash Gordon Four Color 10. Is this a reprint of an earlier article from somewhere else? best -- Merlin Haas From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Mar 06 10:25:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 18:25:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 83075 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 18:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 18:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 18:24:59 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.5e.8147f76 (4204) for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:24:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5e.8147f76.27d6856f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:24:47 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10506 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was told a couple years ago that someone had written a book about Alex Raymond but had been unable to find a publisher after the original publisher (Kitchen Sink) went out of business. Anyone know anything about this book or its status?--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bud@budplant.com Tue Mar 06 10:41:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 18:41:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 50090 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 18:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 18:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 18:41:46 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G9S00A9PH8ZXG@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:41:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:36:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Flash Gordon To: Arthur Lortie Cc: comics apa Message-id: <009601c0a66c$4c40fc60$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <983867308.200.40500.l10@yahoogroups.com> <049201c0a63e$a0986920$8bf956cf@tmlp.com> X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant TRIFIDE@teleline.es Arthur, here's his email address. Sorry I left it out. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Lortie" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:09 AM Subject: Flash Gordon Absolutely amazing that I can spend 30 years or so studying Flash Gordon and his ilk and nobody thinks of me. Must be the fault of that good ol' boy network again. Do you have Pedro's email address? Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:16:15 -0800 > From: Bud Plant > Subject: Fw: Flash Gordon > > I don't have the time to help this fellow but perhaps one of you can lend him a hand. Thanks. > > Best, > > Bud > > Bud Plant Comic Art > 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 > Grass Valley, CA 95945 > 530-273-2166, Extension 212 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pedro L. López Martínez > To: bud@budplant.com > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:18 PM > Subject: Flash Gordon > > > > > Hello! > > Is a Spanish writer that this writing a book on Flash Gordon and needs biographical data of designers of Flash like All Williamson, Ric Estrada, Bob Fujitani, Ralph Reese, etc. do you have that material?Please answer me since here these books have not left. > > Thank you! > > An embrace! > > Pedro L. From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Mar 06 11:00:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 19:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 79728 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 19:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 19:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11605.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.57) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 19:00:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20010306190020.16452.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.3] by web11605.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:00:20 PST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:00:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] About the Who's Who To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <2b.119946a2.27cc86c7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov greetings jerry I went to your website and i couldn't download any of that stuff on there. what kind of information are you looking for? Nick --- JerryBails@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/26/01 10:54:14 PM, > jasonsacks@hotmail.com writes: > > << Just FYI, the "Nick" in this thread is Nick > Alenikov, who's published > hundreds of pinups and strips in various zines, both > under his name > and under the nom de plume of "Filthy McNasty." > > - Jason > >> > > Happy to know this. > > Nick, and any other pros on this list, I'd be happy > to have you update your > listing in the Who's Who of 20th Century Comic > Books, using the questionnaire > below. > See http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ > > I only know of Nick's work in > > __HEART OF DIXIE COMICS > ____KNIGHTSTORM (a) 1985 > > I'd love to know the rest. > > Bestest, > > Jerry > ------------- > > Do you qualify for inclusion in > THE WHO'S WHO OF 20th CENTURY AMERICAN COMIC > BOOKS ? > > The Who's Who covers the following persons: > (A) Anyone who has created or helped to create comic > books or graphic > albums published in the U.S. in the 20th century > provided that > (1) The material was original, not merely > reprinted from other media; > (2) It is the first printing in the U.S. of > foreign comic material. > (B) Anyone who has been part of the ownership or > production/business > support staff of a comic book publisher (but not > including distribution). > > Once one qualifies by any of the above, we want > complete resumès for > published work in all related fields, although none > of these sister fields > alone will qualitfy a person for inclusion: > Online comics; books and album cover and jackets > Syndicated comics in other periodicals > Cartoons & strips in magazines and papers > Animation; TV; movies; radio; stage; pulps; > Posters, trading cards, calenders, greeting > cards > Comic books published outside the U.S.A. > Advertising; fashion; editorial cartooning; > Storyboards; design of games, books, toys, etc. > any artistic field whatsoever: music, fine arts, > etc. > It doesn't matter what the format of the comics is: > a mini > a black & white > a graphic album > a magazine > a coffee table collection > or whether > it was distributed in the mainstream > underground or alternate routes > at conventions or through the mails > as a premium with other goods and/or services > as long as it is predominantly comics in format > (exluding > publications that carry mostly text or photos). > > You don't need to be rich or famous. If you quality > by the above, then fill > out the questionnaire below and sent it to: > > JerryBails@aol.com > or > Jerry Bails, Executive Editor > 21221 Thiele Ct. > St. Clair Shores > MI, U.S.A. 40801Biographical Questionnaire for > THE WHO'S WHO OF AMERICAN COMIC BOOKS > > If you are a pro in the field, make sure you fill > out this questionnaire. > Return it to: > Jerry Bails, 21221 Thiele Ct., St. Clair Shores, MI > 48081 > or E-mail it to: jerrybails@aol.com > > PLEASE PRINT OR TYPE YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS > BELOW. > To minimize mistakes, please don't abbreviate names, > and avoid humorous answers. > > A. Your name as you wish to be listed in the WHO'S > WHO. > B. Year of your birth. > C. Country of your birth and nationality if not a > U.S. citizen. > D. Give your full name at birth and indicate any > legal name > changes. > E. List pen names (any names signed to work) and > indicate the > media in which > each alias appeared. > F. Specify your role in the comic book field: > Publisher; Editor; Writer; Artist; Colorist; > Letterer; or > other (specify). > G. Post-secondary education: any degrees (major), > name of > school & location > (city & state, or country). > H. The top three (3) influences on your career in > comics. > I. The names and relationships of any family members > in > comics or the sister arts. > J. All past or present memberships in societies, and > list the > offices or posts held, along with the years. > K. All honors or prizes received with the name and > year of each > award. > > L. **COMIC BOOK CREDITS** > (See the next section for listing credits in other > fields > including syndication.) Specify the nature of each > job using > these abbreviations: > (GA) graphic album (anything larger than a standard > comic > book) > (rep) reprint > (original year?) > (self) self-published > (mini) miniature- or digest-size format > (foreign) specify country, publication, feature, > and year > > NOTE TO PUBLISHERS: > Please list all titles published & years (using > cover dates) > of each. Please list any alternative names you have > published under. If you have several imprints, > please list > titles by imprint. (I can provide a preliminary > list of your > titles for you to check. Just ask.) > > NOTE TO EDITORS: > Please give exact titles of positions held; tenure > with each > company (first & last years); and a list of the > features you > edited and/or your responsibilities. > > NOTE TO WRITERS and ARTISTS: > Please specify for each strip or feature: > (w) writer > (s) scenarios/plots only > (lay) layout only > (a) artist > (p) pencils only > (i) inks only > (paint) paints > (bkgd) backgrounds > (asst) assistant > (g) ghost > and give > Publisher > Publication title (underlined please) > Feature & Years (Use cover dates if possible or > mark > year with "c" for circa.) > > If you worked through a studio (or shop) please > give the > particulars, including years. > > NOTE TO PRODUCTION PERSONNEL: > Please specify > (col) colors > (let) lettering > (other?) > publisher & years > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Mar 06 11:19:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 19:19:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 32850 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 19:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 19:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11603.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.55) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 19:19:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20010306191951.58830.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.3] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:19:51 PST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:19:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Comics.../NY TIMES To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <97egqp+1efc@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov I apologize, your right, the writer provides more than just a simple idea, being a writer of any comic, they live the characters, being their personalities and such. Based on that. But, the artist takes those ideas and molds them into what they truly are as artistic creations. I agree that the publishers and everyone else is going to have an imput for the book, even the readers. Its a buyer beware market --- jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., > > Hey, Jerry-- > > With me, you're preaching to the choir here! > > :-) > > I think you meant to address your response to > "Nick," who was comenting on the TIMES article I > posted. > > Those coments were his, not mine! > > Oddly, in the recent history of comics, it does seem > to be the writer who has gotten far less credit > than, obviously, deserved. > > 'Just like here! > > :-) > > Best, Jim Burns > > (By the way, I can't begin to express the tremendous > kick I get, out of being on a list with one of the > fellows who helped spearhead the whole modern (I > mean, Silver Age!) incarnation of the comics-fan > phenomenon. Thanks, Jerry! Best, Jim) > > > JerryBails@a... wrote: > > Jim, > > > > While I agree that an artist must visualize a > comics creation, and may > > frequently do so on the basis of a "simple" > suggestion from an editor or > > publisher, most of the writers I know that created > or co-created a comics > > strip provided much, much more than a simple idea. > Most writers, if they are > > any good at all, visualize the main and supporting > characters and the look of > > the strip in detailed words. Bill Finger, for > example, defined many of the > > features of Batman's costume: the fins on the > gauntlets, the utility belt, > > even his acrobatic skills. Bill supplied Bob Kane > with movie stills of > > Dougalas Fairbaks Sr. (as Zorro, etc.) to show > what he wanted. > > > > A comics-writer creator deserves more credit than > one might might think. His > > contribution is certainly more than "simple" in > most cases. > > > > Bestest, > > > > Jerry > > > > ------ > > In a message dated 2/26/01 1:35:23 PM, > tarnknight69@y... writes: > > > > << this is very interesting, I didn't know that > dan carlo > > was involved in this as well. many artist's create > the > > characters, from simple suggestions from the > writer or > > publisher. It's the artist who has to provide the > > overall finished product > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue Mar 06 12:33:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 6 Mar 2001 20:33:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 48713 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 20:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2001 20:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 20:33:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.101] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2001 20:33:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:33:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Message-ID: <983hj0+ojsl@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <982r29+ujhg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 200 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.222.130 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Arthur Lortie was kind enough to provide me with the correct URL, for the Michigan State, Alex Raymond listing: http://www.lib.msu.edu/comics/rri/rrri/raym.htm Thanks, again, Arthur! Best, Jim From alortie@tmlp.com Wed Mar 07 05:59:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 7 Mar 2001 13:59:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 51136 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 13:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Mar 2001 13:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 13:59:46 -0000 Received: from alortie (modem251.tmlp.com [207.86.249.16]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12649 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <00c701c0a70e$d831d8a0$bf2b75d1@tmlp.com> To: References: <983952485.154.61257.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:59:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > I was told a couple years ago that someone had written a book about Alex > Raymond but had been unable to find a publisher after the original publisher > (Kitchen Sink) went out of business. Anyone know anything about this book or > its status?--James Van Hise Well, Denis Kitchen is on the 'net (and about 30 miles away from me). I suppose I could send email (although I don't pretend to know him). And I'm sure there's a number of books lying in closets that never got published, including mine. I'd suggest that his brother (also an artist), children, and possibly a few NCS members who may have started one. Some guy named James Van Hise also did: Here's some tidbits on Alex that I have stored on the 'net (my real computer is separated from me by a few mounds of snow). The writeup in this file is from somewhere else (unfortunately I don't have the credit for where it came from) and the listing is woefully inadequate (I can thing of quite a few comics that contain his work on either Jungle Jim, Secret Agent or Flash gordon that aren't here as well as over 50 UK and Australian issues) Alex Raymond (Alexander Gillespie Raymond) 10/02/1909 (New Rochelle, NY) - 09/06/1956 (car accident, Westport, CT) Married: Helen Frances Williams, December 31, 1930 At 12 he was left fatherless, so he was forced to take up sports and thus win a scholarship to Iona Preparatory School and the University of Notre Dame. After graduation, he became a stockmarket clerk. The stockmarket crash of 1929 crashed his stockmarket career as well, so he enrolled in Grand Central School of Art in NYC. His first works were assistant ones, on comics such as 'Tillie the Toiler' (ghosting for Russ Westover in 1930 & 31), 'Blondie' (the most popular comic in the world at that time, with Chic Young from 1931 until 1933), and 'Tim Tyler's Luck' (with Chic's brother Lyman Young), after which he gained permanent employement with the King Features Syndicate. His comic role models were works by well-known artists, Matt Clark and Charles Dan Gibson. Late in 1933, as a $15-a-week staff artist, Raymond was given the assignment of creating a science fiction strip to compete with Buck Rogers, and along with writer Don Moore created "Flash Gordon" and "Jungle Jim". In 01/07/1934, Alex Raymond introduced Flash Gordon, a polo player and Yale graduate. The idea for this strip was given by journalist Joe Conolly, based on 'When Worlds Collide' by Philip Wylie and Edwin Balmer. Flash Gordon was a smash hit. At the same time, Raymond teamed with mystery writer Dashiell Hammett to create "Secret Agent X-9". His Sunday episodes were so popular they appeared on the second page of the comic section behind George McManus' Bringing Up Father. [Seems to be more adult fare on pages 1 and 2?] In 1944 Raymond left the strip and joined the Marines, fighting in the Pacific theatre on the battleship Gilbert Islands, leaving the armed services as a Major in 1946. He served as a public information officer and combat artist. Some of his combat pictures were hung in the National Art Gallery at Washington, DC. After returning home in 1946, Raymond syndicated his fourth comic strip, "Rip Kirby". A scientific detective, Rip was as popular as Raymond's other creations. Raymond's art influenced hordes of talented comics artists. Among them are Frank Frazetta, Al Williamson, Phil Davis, Lou Fine and Wayne Boring, and through their art he has influenced scores of others. A giant in the field he served as president of the National Cartoonist's Society for two years (1950, 51) and had his work showcased in books, and magazines including a spread in a 1940 issue of Life. Raymond was driving his sports car when it overturned and crashed into a tree. Raymond was killed while another cartoonist passenger, Stan Drake (The Heart of Juliet Jones), was severely injured. BIOGRAPHY: Who Was Who in America, Vol III, p714 OBITUARY: New York Times, September 7, 1956, p24 OTHER WORKS: Scuttle watch (illustrator) (a paperback) By Ryder, Marion Dayton (Crowell), Mrs., 1893- New York, A. A. Knopf, 1941. 286 p., illus. 22 cm. Rip Kirby: 16 volumes?? (illustrator) Papeete-Tahiti: Pacific Comics Club, 1980. 12 p.: ill.; 34 cm. Reprints daily strips 03/031946 to 12/23/1950 The Official Rip Kirby. No. 1 - .No. 6? (1988) (illustrator) Pioneer Comics, 1988- . ill.; 26 cm. The Rip Kirby Sundays: 2 volumes? (illustrator) Las Vegas, NV: Pioneer Books, 1989. 63 p.: ill.; 21 x 28 cm. Reprints sundays from the beginning through 12/07/1946 Rip Kirby. Book 1 (illustrator) (Comic Art Showcase; no. 4) Buffalo, NY: Quality Comic Art Productions, 1980. 56 p.: ill.; 28 cm. Reprints Rip Kirby daily strips from 01/21 - 10/11/1947. Rip Kirby Exposes the Kidnap Racket (Harvey Comics Hits; no. 57) (illustrator) NY: Harvey, 1952. 32 p.: col. ill.; 26 cm. Official Jungle Jim Sundays: ?? volumes (illustrator) Las Vegas, NV: Pioneer Books, 1989. 96 p.: ill.; 22 x 28 cm. Collects Sunday strips dated 05/16/1937 - 03/12/1939. Jungle Jim: ?? volumes (illustrator) Papeete, Tahiti?: Pacific Comics Club?, 197-? 52 p.: ill.; 24 x 39 cm. Reprinted Sundays Jungle Jim No. 1 (illustrator) Menomonee Falls, WI: Street Enterprises, 1972.31 p.: ill.; 27 cm. Reprints Jungle Jim Sunday strips in b&w from 07/14-10/27/1935 Jungle Jim and the Vampire Woman (The Big Little Book; 1139) Racine, WI: Whitman, 1937. 424 p.: ill.; 12 cm. Jungle Jim (The Big Little Book; 1138) Racine, WI: Whitman, 1937. p.: ill.; 12 cm. The Official Jungle Jim. 16? volumes Granada Hills, CA: Pioneer Comics, 1988- . ill.; 26 cm. Secret agent X-9 (illustrator) (With Dashiell Hammett, 1894-1961) Introduction by Bill Blackbeard. Philadelphia, David McKay company (c1934-) v. illus. 19 x 21 cm. Kitchen Sink Press, c1990. 206 p.: chiefly ill.; 22 x 28 cm. ISBN: 0878160779: $13.95 ($16.75 Can.) Dashiell Hammett's Secret agent X-9 (illustrator) (With Dashiell Hammett, 1894-1961) Introduction by William F. Nolan Edited by Tony Sparafucile With a special X-9 story by Leslie Charteris NewYork: International Polygonics, 1983. 225 p: 26cm. ISBN: 0093033056 (pbk.): $9.95 Secret Agent X-9: the detective classic from the comics' golden age (illustrator) (With Dashiell Hammett) NY: Nostalgia Press, c1976. (176) p.: chiefly ill.; 22 x 28 cm. Secret Agent X-9 (The Big Little Book; 1144) Racine, WI: Whitman, 1937. p.: ill.; 12 cm. Secret Agent X-9 and the Mad Assassin (The Big Little Book; 1472) Racine, WI: Whitman, 1937. p.: ill.; 12 cm. From alortie@tmlp.com Wed Mar 07 06:04:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 7 Mar 2001 14:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 79397 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 14:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2001 14:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 14:04:13 -0000 Received: from alortie (modem251.tmlp.com [207.86.249.16]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12738 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:05:24 -0500 Message-ID: <00d101c0a70f$781eb400$bf2b75d1@tmlp.com> To: References: <983952485.154.61257.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Oops Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:04:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > I was told a couple years ago that someone had written a book about Alex > Raymond but had been unable to find a publisher after the original publisher > (Kitchen Sink) went out of business. Anyone know anything about this book or > its status?--James Van Hise That last email went out before I was finished. [Ctrl-V is NOWHERE near Alt-S; no idea how that happened;] I was adding Jim Van Hise's book. If he won't plug it, I will: How to Draw Art for Comic Books: Lessons from the Masters By Raymond, Williamson, et al By James Van Hise. Las Vegas, NV: Pioneer Books, 1989. 158 p.: ill.; 28 cm. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Mar 07 19:33:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 8 Mar 2001 03:33:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 44067 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 03:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Mar 2001 03:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 03:33:22 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19682 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:39:19 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.191] (ppp50.netimaging.com [208.136.132.191]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA19330; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:39:15 -0600 Message-Id: <200103080439.WAA19330@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Big Apple NYC Comicon This Week End Date: Wed, 7 Mar 01 21:31:26 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: , , , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm Hello i am disengaging from all my discussion groups again for a few days - headin' to that big blizzard fiasco territory called New York City for the next Carbonaro Big Apple Con at St Paul's Church - flying out at 6 AM into Newark, New Jersey Thursday morning - which is about 5 hours from now. I will be back late Sunday - please do not send me any emails till then. I am trying to cut down on having to wade thru 500 to 1800 emails which back up every time I go to "work"/ There are a number of discussions I would like to participate in, but do not have time right now - having spent the past couple days packing into 4 suitcases what I am bringing there to sell. If you live in the area, see ya there? it's a great show for buying & selling. robert beerbohm From bud@budplant.com Fri Mar 09 09:56:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: budplant@jps.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 9 Mar 2001 17:56:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 84823 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 17:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 17:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 18:57:20 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G9X003JXYQQ2T@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:47:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:41:55 -0800 Subject: Alex Raymond Book To: comics apa Reply-to: Bud Plant Message-id: <003a01c0a8c0$3c13ed60$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 X-eGroups-From: Bud Plant From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kitchen indeed had an excellent-looking mock-up of a Raymond book ready several years ago. Tim Underwood/Underwood Books, who also lives here in Grass Valley, tried to work out something to publish it after Kitchen Sink went under. But they couldn't settle on things and the project remains in limbo, to the best of my knowledge. Its not a book that would sell in the mainstream, so that means the print run and thus the potential sales are limited. On the same note, Underwood is currently considering a book on J. Allen St. John, printing it in a strictly limited edition of 1000 or so. Again, the bookstore mainstream will not support such a book, its "dated" and the artist is unknown in that world. Believe it or not, his book on Robert McGinnis, who should be MUCH better known and more popular than St. John, did not do all that well in bookstores. But it was my #1 bestseller in my market. That's the cold hard logic of the real world we live in. I'm afraid Alex Raymond falls into that same "specialty" category. There are almost no publishers these days that will take a chance on such items. Kitchen Sink was a rare exception. Underwood Books used to do such projects, but not much any more--the only reason Tim was willing to do the Raymond is for his personal love of Raymond, not to necessarily make any money. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Mar 09 10:28:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 9 Mar 2001 18:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 65802 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 18:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 18:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 18:28:32 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.c1.c4b5056 (4567) for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:28:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:28:11 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Alex Raymond Book To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10506 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/9/01 9:57:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, bud@budplant.com writes: > Kitchen indeed had an excellent-looking mock-up of a Raymond book ready > several years ago. Tim Underwood/Underwood Books, who also lives here in > Grass Valley, tried to work out something to publish it after Kitchen Sink > went under. But they couldn't settle on things and the project remains in > I was told that the book was offered to Wandering Star a couple years ago but they had to pass on it as they are already booked up with all of the REH projects they're doing over the next several years. At the time Wandering Star gave me the email address of the author and I contacted him about running a chapter in the RBCC as a promo for the book that he might be able to use to interest a publisher, but I received no reply. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bud@budplant.com Fri Mar 09 15:41:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: budplant@jps.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 9 Mar 2001 23:41:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 41803 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 23:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2001 23:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 23:41:24 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G9Y002CVF34SN@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:34:58 -0800 Subject: John Barrett is ill To: comics apa Reply-to: Bud Plant Message-id: <008e01c0a8f1$8df98aa0$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 X-eGroups-From: Bud Plant From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dick Swan just called me to say John Barrett, our friend since we were teenagers and co-founder of Comics & Comix, is terminally ill with colon cancer. He is in an ICU in Pennsylvania and is said to have only days or perhaps weeks to live. At the moment he is unconcious and on medication. It is uncertain if he will regain conciousness, but his girlfriend may be able to read to him if he does. Apparently as of even a few weeks ago, John was responding okay to chemo and things looked promising. Dick has sent a care package of old photos. I plan to do the same tomorrow. I don't know how many of you guys knows John, but if you'd like to participate, send cards or whatever to his girlfriend: John Barrett c/o Linda 127 Oakdale Ave Norristown, PA 19403 610-635-4164 Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Mar 09 20:22:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 10 Mar 2001 04:22:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 77612 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 04:22:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2001 04:22:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 04:22:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.63] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2001 04:22:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:21:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: John Barrett is ill Message-ID: <98ca55+pm30@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <008e01c0a8f1$8df98aa0$1b02a8c0@bud> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1979 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.84 From: jameshburns@webtv.net What horrible, devestating, news... Bud, even though you and I met briefly, in Phil Seuling's backyard, in '76, or so, and did business together, a couple of times, in the late '70s-- Oddly, John and I were pretty sure we had never met, until around '85, when John was touring around, doing all the STAR TREK conventions, and such, (when John was doing a TON of shows, as a dealer). Linda, who's been with John since the early 90s, and I, also met around then... John and I never knew each ther really well, but we had been at tons of shows together, had MANY pleasant encounters-- And whenever I think of him, it's always been with a smile on my face. I realize I'm rambling here, but this news, w oabviouslsy, was shakey... And I just got off the phone with Linda. When I read your EMAIL, I turned off the internet, and immediately called her. Having experienced some tragedy, I know that sometimes you don't want to hear from ANYBODY, and other times, it's the MOST pleasant thing, to chat with an old bud. I got Linda on the line, and told her if she wanted to hang up, that was fine! :-) We've been out of touch for a while, so we wound up talking, and caught up... Things, obviously, are indeed grim. But here's the good news. John is NOT unconcious. They moved him out of the ICU (intensive care), and he's in a regular room. (He's on a ton of medication, so sometimes he's sleepy, but otherwise, John is fully coherent.) I asked Linda if John would appreciate getting cards, and notes, from old friends-- She said, absolutely, and to please just use the address you aleady supplied. Linda's trying to keep calls to a minimum, but felt that the mail would be fine... John's three kids, from his first marriage, have flown in, so he's surroundedby people who love him. Obviously, and I feel like a schmoe for even saying this, but if we could all toss a prayer, John's and Linda's way, that couldn't possibly be anything but helpful... Jim Burns From bbush@mmcable.com Sun Mar 11 21:44:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bbush@mmcable.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 12 Mar 2001 05:44:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 75926 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 05:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2001 05:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.mmcable.com) (24.94.163.51) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 06:45:25 -0000 Received: from pumpkin.mmcable.com ([24.27.133.165]) by mail4.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:41:34 -0600 Message-ID: <016301c0aab6$f8e682c0$a5851b18@mmcable.com> Reply-To: "b bush" To: References: <984163780.113.43597.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: whatever became of Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:40:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: bbush@mmcable.com From: "b bush" Bart here; I was going thru RBCC #51, Spring 1967,an issue from almost 34 years ago, and I noticed a lot of lifelong comic book fans in-the-making running early advertisments. Here are some highlights of the issue (guaranteed circulation 1300): Ken Finnerty of Houston had a Near Mint copy of Captain America #5 for $25, and a VG #10 for $20. And a #23 for $10 !! Billy Schellys fanzine was offered for sale at .35 a copy! G.B. Love was giving away GOLDEN AGE comics! If you bought a random pack of 20 comics ( all super hero) from the previous 4 years for $5.50, you got a FREE golden age comic book. Choose from Marvel family #42, Blackhawk #42,89. Ameriacs Best #20, or Fighting Yank #19....Not a bad deal!! The ad I ran that Rogofosky bought entirely out were 4 copies each of Avengers 9-33, X-Men 12-25, Spiderman #20-46, Thor 104-138. etc, etc. I soaked him good! I had only paid 12 cents each, and now I got FIFTY CENTS each! I remember the money order he sent was for a couple hundred dollars! It financed my first comic con a few months later at Houstoncon '67. Full page ads from Buddy Saunders, Spa Fon, Fantasy Illustrated #7,and the starting of Witzend. Even Spa Fon #2 has an ad. Sooner Comics #4 has a full page ad!! Great list of rare #1 issues for bid/sale from Chuck's Comic Corner ( Chuck Wooley) as well as other wonderful cheap goldenage!! Soooo much 40's stuff for just a few dollars each!!! Chuck doing mail auctions as early as 1967...wow.. at age 14!!! Ad for FAN SCENE #2 from Dan Dagenais in Kansas, whose contributors are Mike Benton, BUD PLANT, and Earl Blair, jr. ! What did you write about, Bud? And the incredible BACKCOVER from Jerry Bails, for the GREAT DATA CONTEST 1967. Some lucky person got 10 pages of original art for submitting data!! Wow!! Tell us more Jerry! How'd it turn out? Ok, Ok, I've rambled on enough.. My question this time is Whatever happened to... the following dealers and collectors who advertised 34 years ago? Are these fans still alive and in our collecting circle? Some of them were regular dealers for a long period of time. Have they moved on to other interests? Who knows about: John Fawcett, conn Greg Novak, NY Kevin Knudson, wisc Steve Thomas, illinois Dan McAvoy, illinois Ray Poulson, calif Dee Magers, georgia Andrew Nadel, ny Rick Stoner, ohio Richard Frazier, mass Dan Waxman, ny Joe Googin, va Richard Pujol, missouri Richard Burgess, wisc Well, that's enough for now. thanks for indulgeing me! bart From bud@budplant.com Mon Mar 12 16:49:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 13 Mar 2001 00:49:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 74251 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2001 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2001 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2001 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GA4002MU26YZ3@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:48:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:38:52 -0800 Subject: Re: fanzine writing, publishing, John Barrett update To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <00a301c0ab56$9a601860$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <984424071.383.79358.l10@yahoogroups.com> X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Bart, For Fan Scene #2, I wrote a longish article on the history of Mystery in Space. I remember agonizing over it and that may have lead to my lack of contributions to other zines. I was 100% a Marvel fan in early 1965, until I met John Barrett, Jim Buser and others who introduced me to the RBCC, as well as the glories of DC: Adam Strange, The Atom, Green Lantern, Strange Adventures. I got my fix collecting--and dealing so that I could collect more. If I wrote any more articles, they aren't coming to mind. I did get a few letters published in Marvel in the mid-1960s. I was involved in five issues of Promethean Enterprises, which ran almost annually from 1969 to 1975, which combined what we thought was the best of comic art and underground art. The last issue, #5, had a fold out cover by Robert Williams, a DOUBLE fold out centerfold, and the first interview with Robert Crumb. But it was far too long in the making and we had to sticker it from $1.50 up to $2.00 a copy to pay the bills. And after 27 years, I actually still offer it in my business. Needless to say, it didn't sell out. When I first moved to Grass Valley, I used boxes of it to hold up some planks that formed my desk. So along with The First Kindom, an insane commitment of 24 issues, and Bettie Page, Queen of Hearts--four years in the making--I've learned my lessons in publishing... I encourage others to publish, not me. An update on John Barrett: I just spoke to his friend Linda and she says to send cards but don't call. John's morphine has been upped and she doesn't feel he's capable of taking phone calls now. I've filled in Michelle Nolan, another old friend from the 1960s, on John's condition. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 43 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. whatever became of > From: "b bush" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:40:38 -0600 > From: "b bush" > Subject: whatever became of > > Bart here; > > I was going thru RBCC #51, Spring 1967,an issue from almost 34 years ago, > and I noticed a lot of lifelong comic book fans in-the-making running early > advertisments. > Here are some highlights of the issue (guaranteed circulation 1300): > > Ken Finnerty of Houston had a Near Mint copy of Captain America #5 for $25, > and a VG #10 for $20. And a #23 for $10 !! > > Billy Schellys fanzine was offered for sale at .35 a copy! > G.B. Love was giving away GOLDEN AGE comics! If you bought a random pack of > 20 comics ( all super hero) from the previous 4 years for $5.50, you got a > FREE golden age comic book. Choose from Marvel family #42, Blackhawk #42,89. > Ameriacs Best #20, or Fighting Yank #19....Not a bad deal!! > > The ad I ran that Rogofosky bought entirely out were 4 copies each of > Avengers 9-33, X-Men 12-25, Spiderman #20-46, Thor 104-138. etc, etc. I > soaked him good! I had only paid 12 cents each, and now I got FIFTY CENTS > each! I remember the money order he sent was for a couple hundred dollars! > It financed my first comic con a few months later at Houstoncon '67. > > Full page ads from Buddy Saunders, Spa Fon, Fantasy Illustrated #7,and the > starting of Witzend. Even Spa Fon #2 has an ad. Sooner Comics #4 has a full > page ad!! > > Great list of rare #1 issues for bid/sale from Chuck's Comic Corner ( Chuck > Wooley) as well as other wonderful cheap goldenage!! Soooo much 40's stuff > for just a few dollars each!!! Chuck doing mail auctions as early as > 1967...wow.. at age 14!!! > > Ad for FAN SCENE #2 from Dan Dagenais in Kansas, whose contributors are Mike > Benton, BUD PLANT, and Earl Blair, jr. ! What did you write about, Bud? > > And the incredible BACKCOVER from Jerry Bails, for the GREAT DATA CONTEST > 1967. Some lucky person got 10 pages of original art for submitting data!! > Wow!! Tell us more Jerry! How'd it turn out? > > Ok, Ok, I've rambled on enough.. My question this time is Whatever happened > to... > the following dealers and collectors who advertised 34 years ago? Are these > fans still alive and in our collecting circle? Some of them were regular > dealers for a long period of time. Have they moved on to other interests? > Who knows about: > > John Fawcett, conn > Greg Novak, NY > Kevin Knudson, wisc > Steve Thomas, illinois > Dan McAvoy, illinois > Ray Poulson, calif > Dee Magers, georgia > Andrew Nadel, ny > Rick Stoner, ohio > Richard Frazier, mass > Dan Waxman, ny > Joe Googin, va > Richard Pujol, missouri > Richard Burgess, wisc > > Well, that's enough for now. thanks for indulgeing me! > bart > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From bud@budplant.com Wed Mar 14 16:17:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: budplant@jps.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 00:17:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 37181 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 00:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 00:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 00:17:21 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GA70008NPZFUP@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:14:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:08:47 -0800 Subject: John Barrett To: comics apa Reply-to: Bud Plant Message-id: <008201c0ace4$1ba40970$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 X-eGroups-From: Bud Plant From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Barrett died late this afternoon. My friend Jim Buser, who goes back to 1965 with John and I, says that he died peacefully. At least he didn't suffer any longer. John was a good friend, always ready to help others. And although he experienced financial problems in the past few years, he always did his best to make good. I'll miss him a lot. Bud Plant [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bud@budplant.com Wed Mar 14 17:52:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: budplant@jps.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 01:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 66118 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 01:52:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 01:52:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 01:52:04 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GA700827UGWM0@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:45:41 -0800 Subject: John Barrett To: comics apa Reply-to: Bud Plant Message-id: <003f01c0acf1$a4ba1c10$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 X-eGroups-From: Bud Plant From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My good friend and my longtime partner in Comics & Comix, John Barrett, died of colon cancer March 14. Many, many people in the comics industry know John well and I think many of your reading this may also. He and I started what is considered the first "chain" of comic book stores. Comics & Comix. We opened the first store in Berkeley, in 1972. I was still in college, so John was and remained the "working" partner and spiritual head of the company. There were four stores by 1974 and seven by the time we sold them in 1988. As managing partner of the largest comics chain in the U.S., John got to know and work with all the major players at DC and Marvel, all the other comics distributors (when there were more than just Diamond), and all the other major comic shop owners. John also loved selling at conventions and hanging out with friends there, from the first one we attended in 1968, to our treks to Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma and New York City in the early 1970s, then for years for Comics and Comix. For the past 14 years he continued to follow the "circuit" of Star Trek, Star Wars, comics and media shows across the country. He also ran several shows himself with major Star Trek New Generation stars as the guests. When I think of John, I remember Friday nights at his folk's house. He lived way across town, on the west side of San Jose. My Mom would give me a ride over. A little group of us would trade comics and show each other our latest acquisitions. John even published a comics fanzine, Eccentric, just before I met him. In those days, that meant printing it yourself on a "ditto" machine. That was 1965. I was 13, John 14. We'd also spend hours on the phone, trading comics and then mailing them to each other between visits. In 1968, six of us-including John-opened what is considered the first or perhaps second "real" comics store-not a corner of a books store--on the west coast, Seven Sons Comic Shop. Gary Arlington started his San Francisco Comic Book company at almost the same time. Later that year we attended our first convention--four of us shared one 8" table at the World Science Fiction Convention in Berkeley. We took sleeping bags and slept on the lawn. In 1969, we drove together to Houston with fellow friends Dick Swan (now Big Guy's Comics) and Jim Buser (Duck and Cover). We got our first taste of a major comic book show. We bought enough comics there to return to San Jose and open another shop, Comics World, with the four of us as partners. John and I eventually bought out Dick and Jim, determined that we were working harder than they were! But the four of us ended up partners again just a few years later in Comics and Comix. In 1970 we drove to Oklahoma City and on to New York, for the first of many Phil Seuling shows. We met Jerry Weist and both John and I bought Reed Crandall originas from him, as well as DC war comics pages by Kubert and Heath, from our friend Phil Seuling and original Johnny Comet strips from Frank Frazetta himself. You could safely say that were hooked. While I went to visit an original art dealer, John got the rare priviledge of playing baseball with Phil Seuling, Frank Frazetta and other comics folks one Sunday afternoon. Good move, John! I started my mail order business in late 1970. John had gotten married, was majoring in photo journalism in college and working a real day job, too. He'd graduate from High School in 1969. He dropped out of comics for a time. When I drove off across the country to do the comics conventions in 1971 and 1972, John didn't go. But he actually loaned us his pick up truck one year to drive to Detroit. What a friend! But what he did do was fill orders for my fledgling business while I was away both those summers. He liked it so much he suggested we should work together. The two of us came up with the idea of a comics store in one of California's busiest and hippest areas, Berkeley. The location we found, just three blocks from the giant U.C. Berkeley campus, would become the flagship of Comics & Comix. The store was an immediate hit. We took in several partners over the years but John remained the head of the company, working hard to make it a success. At its peak C&C was grossing $2.5 million annually in sales, with two stores each in Sacramento and San Francisco, and one each in Solano, Palo Alto and Berkeley. Comics and Comix also became an underground domics publisher. It started the First Kingdom series, as well as publishing books by Dave Geiser, Dan O'Neill, Alfredo Alcala's Voltar and Magic Carpet. C&C sent the famous Air Pirates-Dan O'Neill and crew-to Seuling's New York con one year to raise money for their defense against Disney. C&C also helped put on the first underground comics convention, BerkeleyCon, in 1973. By 1988 times had gotten tough in comics and C&C was having serious financial problems. John gave up the reins to run his own store in San Rafael. But it was rough going and the store didn't survive. Soon John returned to his first love, conventions, and he became one of the best known dealers on the "circuit". John lived in Pennsylvania for the past eight years with his companion Linda. We'd only bump into each other every year or two at San Diego Con or Wondercon, but we'd talk or exchange cards at Christmas. While we drifted apart geographicly, we remained bound by our love of comics, our years in the business and our friendship and trust. When I first wrote this, John was already terminally ill and in serious condition in the hospital. Before I was able to send this out, he had passed away. John was one of the friendliest, warmest people I knew. He helped a lot of retailers get their start. He pioneered the way in comic shops, when there were no models to go by. He had endless energy and enthusiasm. I understand he set at a convention just two weeks before he died. If you knew John and would like to send a card to his family, write c/o Linda at 127 Oakdale Ave, Norristown, PA 19403. If you would like to send any thoughts or memories of him to me, I'll post them on the Comic Art website. Bud Plant [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Thu Mar 15 10:54:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ltucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 18:54:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 75123 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 18:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 18:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 19:55:15 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf16.rt66.com [206.206.85.36]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26818 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:54:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AB11068.84D94437@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:56:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Re: John Barrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker >From: Bud Plant >Subject: John Barrett >My good friend and my longtime partner in Comics & Comix, John Barrett, died of colon cancer >March 14. Many, many people in the comics industry know John well and I think many of your >reading this may also. He and I started what is considered the first "chain" of comic book >stores. Comics & Comix. Sorry to hear this, Bud. I enjoyed very much reading your reminisces - he sounded like a helluva guy. My condolences to you, his family and any other friends he may've had on the list. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From t_heintjes@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 11:24:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: t_heintjes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 19:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 60856 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 19:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 19:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web510.mail.yahoo.com) (216.115.104.225) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 20:25:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20010315192406.5601.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.152.13.197] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:06 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 45 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <984681681.243.40809.l10@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Tom Heintjes > John Barrett died late this afternoon. My friend Jim > Buser, who goes back to 1965 with John and I, says > that he died peacefully. At least he didn't suffer > any longer. > Bud-- Thanks for sharing your memories of John with us. He sounds like a great guy. It's especially sad that he was struck down at such an early age. Tom Heintjes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Mar 15 11:26:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 19:26:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 56332 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 19:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 19:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 19:26:14 -0000 Received: from storefull-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.61]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9F82C6E4 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id LAA02669; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:26:11 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAl8F3HnEUH6dblmK0GBA+fFlzBu0CFBtp4XzK7YREZWUK4WlhvVmIV6Ph Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:26:11 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: John Barrett, Service/Memorial... Message-ID: <17455-3AB11753-127@storefull-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 15 Mar 2001 18:41:21 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Linda just asked me to post this information, on the services for John, to be held this Saturday. Below, is the URL for the website that's been set up: directions, memorial, et al... Needless to say, my prayers are with Linda's and John's family, and all of you, here, who were their friends. http://aelis.home.mindspring.com/john/ Jim Burns From bud@budplant.com Thu Mar 15 12:10:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 15 Mar 2001 20:10:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 78954 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2001 20:10:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Mar 2001 20:10:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 20:10:18 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GA900E0M8T49Z@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:58:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:53:01 -0800 Subject: Fw: John Barrett To: comics apa , Bart Bush Message-id: <002101c0ad89$8b21b220$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Here;s information on the service for John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burns" To: "Bud Plant" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: John Barrett > > Hey, Bud-- > > Linda just asked me to post the following, at the YAHOO group, which I > enclose a copy of, here, for you. > > I was very moved by the memoir you posted last night. > > (Actually, there's a memories page at the memorial website, where it > might be a fitting tribute to include that heartfel reminscence.) > > Sadly, I never knew John REALLY well. > > But, as I mentioned, our encounters were always more than pleasant. > > And we were at--oddly,coiincidentally!--TONS of shows together! > > :-) > > Aside from the obvious tragedies involved, to me, one of the saddest > facets of something like this--perhaps even in a selfish way--is that > part of the tapestry of our lives has been removed. > > Or, at least, the chance to revisit, or renew, those friendships. > > I can't imagine what it's like for you, and the other folks you > mentioned, to lose someone you've known since adolescence. > > But, to paraphrase what I wrote to Linda, and as I'm certain you already > knew-- > > You, and all of John's "extended" family, are in my thoughts--as well, > I'm sure, as those of many other people's--today. > > With Condolences, > > Jim Burns > Linda just asked me to post this information, on the services for John, > to be held this Saturday. > > Below, is the URL for the website that's been set up: directions, > memorial, et al... > > Needless to say, my prayers are with Linda's and John's family, and all > of you, here, who were their friends. > > > http://aelis.home.mindspring.com/john/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Mar 15 21:24:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 05:24:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28354 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 05:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 05:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 05:24:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.133] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2001 05:24:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:24:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: John Barrett Message-ID: <98s82e+d8dc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <002101c0ad89$8b21b220$1b02a8c0@bud> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1058 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.84 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Heck, Bud-- The first part of that was my private Email, to you! :-) One last note-- And I apologize to those who aren't particularly involved with any of this-= =3D=0D - Since this morning, a rather lovely tribute site, to John, has gone up at t= =3D=0D he aforementioned website, including Bud's terrific memoir. Also, from the site, the following... Best, Jim=20 _____________________ In lieu of flowers, the family has requested that memorial contributions be= =3D=0D made to either:=20 =A0 Morris Animal Foundation Memorial contributions be made to John's favoriate charity, the Morris Anim= =3D=0D al Foundation. For information on how to make a donation and have your cont= r=3D=0D ibution matched by the Greyhound Project visit: http://www.adopt-a-greyhound.org/misc/tgp-cancer.html =A0 OR John Barrett Memorial Fund Contributions can be made to "John Barrett Memorial Fund" by mail to his ho= =3D=0D metown bank Phoenixville Federal Savings 74 West Second Avenue Collegeville, PA 19426-2648 Cards and notes sent with contributions will be forwarded to the family. =A0 From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Mar 15 21:41:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 05:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 58125 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 05:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 05:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 05:41:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.133] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2001 05:41:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:41:42 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: John Barrett Message-ID: <98s92m+smdc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <98s82e+d8dc@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 348 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.84 From: jameshburns@webtv.net 'Sorry-- The last part of that as cut off: John Barrett Memorial Fund Cards and notes sent with contributions will be forwarded to the family. Jo= =3D=0D hn requested cremation with his ashes spread in Hawaii. This fund will assu= r=3D=0D e that he gets there. Additional contributions are to be held in trust for = J=3D=0D ohn's three sons. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20=20 From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Mar 16 00:00:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 16 Mar 2001 08:00:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 43307 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 07:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2001 07:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r17.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 07:34:04 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.37.121efa21 (16492) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:34:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <37.121efa21.27e31be7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:33:59 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fw: John Barrett To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 3/16/01 5:25:43 AM, jameshburns@webtv.net writes: << One last note-- And I apologize to those who aren't particularly involved with any of this-= - Since this morning, a rather lovely tribute site, to John, has gone up at t= he aforementioned website, including Bud's terrific memoir. Also, from the site, the following... Best, Jim _____________________ >> No apology necessary. I think we can easily afford a little public space for the passing on our friends in Fandom. I hope we can even extend our concern for our friends who might need a little cheer from us. I'm concerned that some fans who are not on line are in need of some good cheer from friends, so please feel free to share word about fan-friends. Bestest, Jerry From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Mar 16 18:44:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 17 Mar 2001 02:44:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 95984 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2001 02:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2001 02:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 02:44:42 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11723 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:44:42 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.184] (ppp43.netimaging.com [208.136.132.184]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA11458; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:44:38 -0600 Message-Id: <200103170244.UAA11458@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Kansas City Comics Show March 17 18 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 01 20:42:46 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: , , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm Hello I am signing off again for the week end from=20 all my groups, back home again late Sunday nite I am off this time to Kansas City, Kansas at the Reardon Center=20 where the KC comics club has hosted comnics shows=20 for something like 20 years now.=20=20 if you're in the area, come on down! I'll have a TON of stuff there,=20 but no Rex the Wonder Dogs - sold out -:) If you have any, I am in an acquisitons mood best robert beerbohm May John Barrett Rest In Peace - so long, friend & partner from long ago Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Fri Mar 16 18:47:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: orca_fresh@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 17 Mar 2001 02:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 55597 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2001 02:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2001 02:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 02:47:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:47:13 -0800 Received: from 152.163.213.46 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 02:47:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.213.46] Reply-To: Founder@orcafresh.net To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 46 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:47:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2001 02:47:13.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[91F83070:01C0AE8C] X-eGroups-From: "ORCA Fresh" From: "ORCA Fresh" ** Bud - I didn't know John personally by name. After seeing his picture though, I realized that I had indeed purchased a few comics books from him over the last 10 years. Sad to see someone so kind, and fair having to leave his loved ones behind. My deepest condolences to everyone touched by this wonderful person. --Rick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bud@budplant.com Mon Mar 19 11:22:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 19:22:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 66052 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 19:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 19:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 20:23:13 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GAG00AQVLRVT1@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:16:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 47 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <016b01c0b0a9$13d965f0$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <984840800.120.50805.l10@yahoogroups.com> X-Priority: 3 From: Bud Plant Rick, Thanks for the note. I've been overwhelmed by the people I've heard from about John Barrett. I've got my own notes which you read earlier, which I've added to my website. I'm adding letters from others in comics. And our mutual friend, Jim Buser, who actually got John started in comics, has written a wonderful memorial to John which I will have posted in a day or two. www.budplant.com, John's pic is on the home page. Bob Beerbohm was dismayed that I didn't include him in my piece on John and Comics & Comix. Bob and I have had some disagreement over the years about exactly how C&C started and who was responsible. Because it was John Barrett who first proposed a partnership to me, I've always given him credit. We'd already been partners in two previous stores at that point. Bob left C&C around 1974 or '75 and there was some bitterness and bad blood as he opened his own stores and competed with C&C. I know both sides were surely guilty of a lot of less-than-ethical tactics during this period. I may have allowed this to influence my memories of C&C's origins. The only other C&C partners I mentioned in my memorial to John were Dick Swan and Jim Buser. I included them because they had been John's friends since 1965, whereas Bob and one other partner in C&C, John Campbell, came along several years later, in 1972-73. The four of us were all collecting buddies for seven years prior to that and we four were partners opening our first two stores, Seven Sons (1968) and Comic World (1969), both in San Jose. However, Bob was there right at the beginning of C&C in late 1972 and helped a great deal even before the store opened. Bob intendeded to go back to Nebraska and pursue college, just as C&C was opening up in September. But his car engine blew up in the middle of the Great Salt Lake. He spent three days there having it rebuilt, then having spent his tuitution money, turned around and came back to California. As luck would have it, he broke down again around Sacramento and I took my van up and towed him to San Jose. John and I had previously invited him to get involved with C&C and he did just that, commuting from San Jose to Berkeley (120 miles round trip each day, as John also did initially), living with me, and eventually buying in as the third partner. He was very important to C&C's early success and I believe he was responsible for our "store within a store." We took all the more expensive collectibles and physically built a kind of "rare book room," which was very cool. Bob ran that room and actively pursued handling better old collectibles, while John was more responsible for the new material and new comics in the outer store. If it hadn't been for Bob's engine, life would have been very different for all of us. Its not often you can point at one incident and see it as such a turning point. I was about to say that its rare that so much can hinge on a turning point like that. But in thinking about, I may have my own point. I only found out about comics fandom because I was in a used book store, in 1965, looking at their nickle comics. I was 12 or 13. A kid came in and asked to see the dollar comics. Myy gosh, I thought, I'd never heard of a comic for $1. But I had Feiffer's Playboy article on comics in a 1964 issue and at some point my Mom bought me his book on comics. So I asked to see those same comics and bought a Thrills of Tomorrow #19, which reprinted Jack Kirby's Stuntman. It was the first time I'd ever seen anything from the Golden Age. The kid, named Jim Leal, followed me out of the store and began on conversation. This led directly to meeting his own collecting buddies, John Barrett and Jim Buser, who took me in and introduced me to The Rocket's Blast and Alter Ego and everything else that was happening in Fandom in 1965. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:53 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 47 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Kansas City Comics Show March 17 18 From: Robert Beerbohm 2. Re: Digest Number 46 From: "ORCA Fresh" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 01 20:42:46 -0600 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Kansas City Comics Show March 17 18 Hello I am signing off again for the week end from all my groups, back home again late Sunday nite I am off this time to Kansas City, Kansas at the Reardon Center where the KC comics club has hosted comnics shows for something like 20 years now. if you're in the area, come on down! I'll have a TON of stuff there, but no Rex the Wonder Dogs - sold out -:) If you have any, I am in an acquisitons mood best robert beerbohm May John Barrett Rest In Peace - so long, friend & partner from long ago Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph Töpffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:47:12 -0500 From: "ORCA Fresh" Subject: Re: Digest Number 46 ** Bud - I didn't know John personally by name. After seeing his picture though, I realized that I had indeed purchased a few comics books from him over the last 10 years. Sad to see someone so kind, and fair having to leave his loved ones behind. My deepest condolences to everyone touched by this wonderful person. --Rick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Mar 19 11:54:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 19 Mar 2001 19:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 43735 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 19:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2001 19:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r17.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 19:54:35 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.27.1292f531 (24903) for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:54:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27.1292f531.27e7bdd7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:53:59 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 47 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com I have enjoyed your reminiscences, Bud. It was a nice effort to mend old fences, and a good time to do it. That a fine tribute to your old friend. Bestest, Jerry ------ In a message dated 3/19/01 7:24:37 PM, bud@budplant.com writes: << Rick, Thanks for the note. I've been overwhelmed by the people I've heard from about John Barrett. I've got my own notes which you read earlier, which I've added to my website. I'm adding letters from others in comics. And our mutual friend, Jim Buser, who actually got John started in comics, has written a wonderful memorial to John which I will have posted in a day or two. www.budplant.com, John's pic is on the home page. Bob Beerbohm was dismayed that I didn't include him in my piece on John and Comics & Comix. Bob and I have had some disagreement over the years about exactly how C&C started and who was responsible. Because it was John Barrett who first proposed a partnership to me, I've always given him credit. We'd already been partners in two previous stores at that point. Bob left C&C around 1974 or '75 and there was some bitterness and bad blood as he opened his own stores and competed with C&C. I know both sides were surely guilty of a lot of less-than-ethical tactics during this period. I may have allowed this to influence my memories of C&C's origins. The only other C&C partners I mentioned in my memorial to John were Dick Swan and Jim Buser. I included them because they had been John's friends since 1965, whereas Bob and one other partner in C&C, John Campbell, came along several years later, in 1972-73. The four of us were all collecting buddies for seven years prior to that and we four were partners opening our first two stores, Seven Sons (1968) and Comic World (1969), both in San Jose. However, Bob was there right at the beginning of C&C in late 1972 and helped a great deal even before the store opened. Bob intendeded to go back to Nebraska and pursue college, just as C&C was opening up in September. But his car engine blew up in the middle of the Great Salt Lake. He spent three days there having it rebuilt, then having spent his tuitution money, turned around and came back to California. As luck would have it, he broke down again around Sacramento and I took my van up and towed him to San Jose. John and I had previously invited him to get involved with C&C and he did just that, commuting from San Jose to Berkeley (120 miles round trip each day, as John also did initially), living with me, and eventually buying in as the third partner. He was very important to C&C's early success and I believe he was responsible for our "store within a store." We took all the more expensive collectibles and physically built a kind of "rare book room," which was very cool. Bob ran that room and actively pursued handling better old collectibles, while John was more responsible for the new material and new comics in the outer store. If it hadn't been for Bob's engine, life would have been very different for all of us. Its not often you can point at one incident and see it as such a turning point. I was about to say that its rare that so much can hinge on a turning point like that. But in thinking about, I may have my own point. I only found out about comics fandom because I was in a used book store, in 1965, looking at their nickle comics. I was 12 or 13. A kid came in and asked to see the dollar comics. Myy gosh, I thought, I'd never heard of a comic for $1. But I had Feiffer's Playboy article on comics in a 1964 issue and at some point my Mom bought me his book on comics. So I asked to see those same comics and bought a Thrills of Tomorrow #19, which reprinted Jack Kirby's Stuntman. It was the first time I'd ever seen anything from the Golden Age. The kid, named Jim Leal, followed me out of the store and began on conversation. This led directly to meeting his own collecting buddies, John Barrett and Jim Buser, who took me in and introduced me to The Rocket's Blast and Alter Ego and everything else that was happening in Fandom in 1965. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 >> From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Mar 19 17:53:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 20 Mar 2001 01:53:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 59874 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 01:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2001 01:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 01:53:41 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08259 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:59:45 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.173] (ppp32.netimaging.com [208.136.132.173]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA07996; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:59:41 -0600 Message-Id: <200103200259.UAA07996@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: TEST Date: Mon, 19 Mar 01 19:51:44 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm back from Kansas City Just testing as I have not received ANY YaHOOgroups.composts=20 all day long - neigh impossible best robert beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu Mar 22 13:49:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 22 Mar 2001 21:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 69965 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2001 21:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Mar 2001 21:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 21:48:01 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22702 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:47:59 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.194] (ppp53.netimaging.com [208.136.132.194]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22489; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:47:53 -0600 Message-Id: <200103222147.PAA22489@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: The Origin of Comics & Comix Date: Thu, 22 Mar 01 15:46:01 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: , "R. C. Harvey" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm FROM THE UNDERGROUND COMIX FAMILY ALBUM, the "Bud Plant" page Photo described also found at the John Barrett memorial at www.budplant.com (For Sale from Bud Plant): >>The photograph above not only captures the crew who organized the first underground Comix Con, at berkeley in 1973, but also records the nucleus of an expanding comix world. Pictures are: Bob Beerbpohm, kneeling, then left to right: Jo(h)n Campbell, Jim Pinkowski, Francis "Bud" Plant,Mike Manyak, Nick Marcus and John Barrett. Bud and John Barrett were the founding partners of the Comics &Comix bookstores, who then brought in John Campbell and Bob. Mike and Nick organized the convention, and Jim, a Comics & Comix store manager and cartoonist, helped with the publicity of the inaugural event. After Comics & Comix was sold to investors, the initial partners spread out to other ventures. Bob opened two of his own comics stores, eventually moving to Ohio to write a book about the commerce of comics. John Barrett opened several stores, then also moved East. He regularly attended major comic conventions, selling collectible comics. Bud Plant (1952-) focused on his first love and now operates an international mail-order business of cartoon art and illustrated books. <<< One of the reasons I began my history writings about the origins of the direct sales market and other business concepts in the comics field was too much disinformation is bandied about like "fact". Such as the above description on the "Bud Plant" page in THE UNDERGROUND FAMILY ALBUM published by Malcolm White using Clay Geerdes photos. For starters, I never have lived in Ohio. I opened my own chain of comics stores which imploded due to a natural flooding disaster same week end as Eclipse Comics was wiped out in Feb 1986. 9 county Federal Disaster Area. Best of Two Worlds warehouse with a million comic books in it wiped out was a mere 41 miles away. I also opened far more than 2 stores in California. Last time I counted it was more than a dozen. The above description has John B and myself almost reversed - but the person who wrote the above never talked with John B or myself. John opened just two stores, the Santa Rosa store which had been a Best of Two Worlds operation - and his albatross in Fairfax which became his final Bay Area undoing. Here with, for your edification, is the origin of Comics & Comix: >Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine writing >Sent: 3/14/20 8:23 AM >Received: 3/14/01 9:12 PM >From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com >To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com > >John died late this afternoon. Jim Buser, who goes back to 1965 with John >and I, says that he died peacefully. At least he didn't suffer any longer. > >John was a good friend, always ready to help others. And although he >experienced financial problems in the past few years, he always did his best >to make good. I'll miss him a lot. > >Bud Plant Bud I understand - even though things got messed up back there in 1974 what with the dope bust we were involved in Pennsylvania, Phil Seuling providing bail money - and the $$$ & old comics which went missing which Campbell confessed to 20 years later to you, John B and Dick Swan (as part of his 12 step program for cocaine abuse), then when John & I sat down at the Heidelburg Cafe on Telegraph to found the first comics retailer association to end air freight - I always considered him - you - the rest of the San Jose gang as friends. One thing - I read the missive you posted to comicbookfanzines list - and I will not post anything there now as the timing is not correct - but, just between you and me, it still hurts to be "written out" of C&C history even now. I was there *before* Day One for Comics & Comix to open - and always have -and always will - considered myself a "founder" of C&C along with John and you. I poured my heart & soul into the operation while you were in San Jose completing college. Before 1972 was out, I became an equal partner when John came to owe you three grand, you were ready to pull the plug which would have sunk the operation in its infancy - and your exact words were to John, "I am not going to throw any more good money after bad" and were going to walk away. I took over that debt, took on that damn janitor 2nd job working nights to pay that off after working full days in the Berkeley store with that same company Mike worked for - or was it Fred, I no longer remember. Anyway, it was so long ago - it no longer matters. John is gone - and may he rest in peace. I'll miss him a lot also. bob ************************************* Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine writing Sent: 3/16/20 8:23 PM Received: 3/15/01 1:04 PM From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com I'm not writing you out of anything. The bottom line is that this is about John. I mentioned Buser and Swan only in passing, as they were close friends of John since the early 1960s and were traveled to cons together and were partners previously If it was not for John, there would have never been a C&C and that is my point here. He wanted to be a partner with me, so we came up with the store idea. Maybe it was my idea, maybe his. But it was not yours and you were not there for that first discussion and you were not walking the streets in Berkeley when John and I found a location (and John got teargassed). The sole reason you ended up there at the very beginning was because your car broke down as you were going back home. I remember that we asked you to join us, but you were going back to college. The store would have opened without you. That does not take away from all you did for it in the early days. Okay? You were instrumental and very important in the early days, but I also don't mention Scott Maple or ANYONE else. This, again, is about John and I don't believe including you or John Campbell or anyone else adds to it. I mentioned there were other partners. Let's give John the credit he deserves here and not obscure it with unnessary detail. If you want to debate this further, as a friend, please save it for another time. I'm really not in the mood right now. Thanks Best, Bud ************************* Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine writing Sent: 3/15/01 1:28 PM To: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com Bud I fully understand this was about John, and as a friend, and in memory of John, I was going to post stuff about him also, from my perspective, but my car breaking down was not the reason at all in the beginning I ended up in San Jose, then working in Berkeley helping to set up that first store. The car engine blow up came later - well after Labor Day. Remember, the San Diego comicon had ended mid August - you talked me into coming up to SanJose to hang for a bit (approx two weeks), then going back down to Los Angeles for the World SF Con at the airport. I stayed at John & Karen's house (inside on the grounds of a golf course ?) sleeping on their couch the entire time. I believe John's dad worked at that gold course? Your mail order business was still at John's house there - that first room as one came in the front door. The first day we got up to San Jose we went to John's house. He was all hot to get back into the comics business - not wanting to work at the grocery store any more. He wanted to "buy in" to your mail order trip, you didn't want to go that path. His rationale was two people could make twice as much as one doing the mail order. i remember distinctly you and me having involved discussion away from John about what you should do with this conundrum - as you weren't sure at the time (August 1972) whether it would support you alone yet, much less John AND Karen plus you. the store concept in Berkeley was a secondary compromise since you owed him a couple grand for his percentage of the profit from what he sold while you were gone on the comicon circuit. So, the initial funding was what you owed John plus you kicked in an equal amount. When I went up with you and John to that 2512 Telegraph Ave, the store front was still very empty - and I was there when the negotiations had that first store front split into two as the lease was signed - as "we" were only going to take the left half of it. Indeed, the initial set up was inside all of the space until Ellsworth and Rosenberg (landlords) found someone to rent the right hand side. I remember us meeting with Al Davoron for him to paint that lightening bolt design behind the cash register. the first day of setting up we sold as the very first item sold a Creepy #1 for $3. You and John tried like the dickens to get me to stay - but I felt obligation to my parents to get my college degree, so I headed out with just 3 days to make late registration, you gave me some white crosses to stay awake, I picked up that hitch hiker at the rest stop up on the bluff outside Reno who was the one who drove too fast causing that 1965 Impala engine to explode. I was initially going to sit out that one semester - and felt I might as well do it in California - and that is when we rented Harmony lane enxt to those biker-types. I honestly am not trying to start any type of fight - all this this was 30 years ago - and I am just as saddened by John's untimely demise as you. I am getting a slow start today. peace bob **************** Be that as it may, I first met "the San Jose gang", at the 1969 Houston comics show Roy Bonario, Marc Schooley, & crew used to host. In 1970, 1971 and again in1972 we ran into each other so much, we began caravaning together, splitting motel rooms to save $$$ to buymore comics. It was pressure from you that i should "escape" Nebraska which brought me to San Jose in August 1972 right after the San Diego comicon. I would say we collectively thought up the "store within a store" concept as we had all that lumber from having built the art display area for the "x" rated art show at the Berkeley con in 1973 - plus we had scored the Tom Reilly "San Francisco" pedigree collection - and what with the ensuing international publicity on UPI and AP for my having sold the first comic book to break the $2000 barrier, the phones were "hot" with people wanting to sell us old comic books. i did run the old comics section, yes. John B ran the new comics side of things. I left due to missing $$$ and cash - John B thought I did it. My feelings at the time were "You (C&C) needs me more than I need you" - plus I knew I was innocent. Jon Campbell confessed to you, John B, and Dick Swan 20 years later. i went back to college, sold out for $12K payable at $100 a week or so - had incredible fights sometimes to collect, BTW, which you probably got a one sided report on at the time - and did not re-enter the comic book store business for a year and a half later in late 1976 when I opened a small store at in the Haight Ashbury. At the time, you would not wholesale into the Bay Area the material you & Phil had exclusives on. EVERY store to the Bay Area had to buy from Phil and have it reshipped from New York City This was because C&C talked you into not wholesaling in the Bay Area so C&C could maintain a competitive advantage. I finally got so pissed off at perceived injustices that when the Berkeley C&C moved up the street in 1977, I went to our old land lords, Ellsworth & Rosenburg, and promptly rented 2512 Telegraph Ave - focusing on out of print material at first as C&C never truly recovered its old comics stature after my departure. The price wars are legend to those you benefited from them. The longest one was below cost for over 4 months as we tried to knock each other off the street. Air Freight entered the picture from Russ Ernst (Glenwood, Sparta). Finally, John B and I sat down for a meeting and then called on all other comics dealers in the Bay Area to a huge meeting out by the Oakland Air Port where everybody decided not to feed the airlines any more except Bob Sidebottom. That was the early 80s. In the final analysis, the first C&C outlet, The Berkeley Comic Art Shop, was John's initial idea as a 2nd best scenerio when you would not let him buy into the mail order aspect. I still remember the 3 of us going to Berkeley together before the lease was signed & being present for the lease negotiations. Once the store was up, John & I ran it. John knew almost nothing about the then current state of of comic book dealing as he had been "out" of it for a couple years after Comic World closed up. Was I an official partner who signed that first lease in August 1972? No. However, except for the few days I headed back to the University of Nebraska-Lincoln & that car engine, I was very much an active participant in building the store before it opened and every day - seven days a week from August 1972 thru the Berkeley Comicon April 1973 - for a very long time - working a 2nd job to pay off the money John owed you - and that happened in 1972 as well. I was not "dismayed" at the way you remember history, "disappointed" is more the word for it. probably no one in the world cares about the fine C&C details, but you, me, - and John. best Robert Beerbohm, proud to have known John Barrett From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Fri Mar 23 14:31:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 23 Mar 2001 22:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 52787 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2001 22:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Mar 2001 22:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.49) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Mar 2001 23:32:30 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.231.245]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010323223122.VOIE14058.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl> for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:31:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c0b3e8$e91ab4c0$f5e7490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: References: <985369842.120.54422.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:30:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Robert, As a friend of Bud's and someone who also knew John Barrett -and as the "crew" who put on Houstoncon 1969 - you should know I find all of this genuinely inappropriate and creepily offensive. I doubt I am the only one in this group who feels like you ought to be reflecting on John's friendship and his contribution to the field rather than filing grievances during a period of mourning. Despite Bud's personal request that you drop this for now you've plowed ahead with airing your picayune objections. To make matters much worse you've also printed two letters from Bud I suspect he intended to be private correspondence. I can't imagine he wanted all this bandied about publicly. Whether you have Bud Plant's permission to offer his letters to this email group or not (and if you did you should have stated that) this is none of OUR business and I, for one, would prefer you quit polishing your resume at the expense of John Barrett, Bud Plant, myself and all the other unwilling particpants in this sad drama. A little common courtesy and a little common sense would be a fine way to honor John's memory. If you still feel the need to settle old scores, do so at a more appropriate point in the future... Anthony Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:50 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. The Origin of Comics & Comix > From: Robert Beerbohm > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 01 15:46:01 -0600 > From: Robert Beerbohm > Subject: The Origin of Comics & Comix > > FROM THE UNDERGROUND COMIX > FAMILY ALBUM, the "Bud Plant" page > Photo described also found at the > John Barrett memorial at www.budplant.com > (For Sale from Bud Plant): > > >>The photograph above not only captures the > crew who organized the first underground > Comix Con, at berkeley in 1973, but also > records the nucleus of an expanding comix > world. Pictures are: Bob Beerbpohm, > kneeling, then left to right: Jo(h)n Campbell, > Jim Pinkowski, Francis "Bud" Plant,Mike Manyak, > Nick Marcus and John Barrett. Bud and John > Barrett were the founding partners of the > Comics &Comix bookstores, > who then brought in John Campbell > and Bob. Mike and Nick organized the > convention, and Jim, a Comics & Comix store > manager and cartoonist, helped with the publicity > of the inaugural event. After Comics & Comix was > sold to investors, the initial partners spread out to other > ventures. Bob opened two of his own comics stores, > eventually moving to Ohio to write a book about the > commerce of comics. John Barrett opened several > stores, then also moved East. He regularly attended major > comic conventions, selling collectible comics. Bud Plant > (1952-) focused on his first love and now operates > an international mail-order business of cartoon art > and illustrated books. <<< > > One of the reasons I began my history writings about the origins of the > direct sales market and other business concepts in the comics field was > too much disinformation is bandied about like "fact". Such as the above > description on the "Bud Plant" page in THE UNDERGROUND FAMILY ALBUM > published by Malcolm White using Clay Geerdes photos. > > For starters, I never have lived in Ohio. I opened my own chain of > comics stores which imploded due to a natural flooding disaster same week > end as Eclipse Comics was wiped out in Feb 1986. 9 county Federal > Disaster Area. Best of Two Worlds warehouse with a million comic books > in it wiped out was a mere 41 miles away. I also opened far more than 2 > stores in California. Last time I counted it was more than a dozen. > > The above description has John B and myself almost reversed - but the > person who wrote the above never talked with John B or myself. > > John opened just two stores, the Santa Rosa store which had been a Best > of Two Worlds operation - and his albatross in Fairfax which became his > final Bay Area undoing. > > Here with, for your edification, is the origin of Comics & Comix: > > >Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine writing > >Sent: 3/14/20 8:23 AM > >Received: 3/14/01 9:12 PM > >From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com > >To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com > > > >John died late this afternoon. Jim Buser, who goes back to 1965 with John > >and I, says that he died peacefully. At least he didn't suffer any longer. > > > >John was a good friend, always ready to help others. And although he > >experienced financial problems in the past few years, he always did his best > >to make good. I'll miss him a lot. > > > >Bud Plant > > Bud > > I understand - even though things got messed up back there in 1974 what > with the dope bust we were involved in Pennsylvania, Phil Seuling > providing bail money - and the $$$ & old comics which went missing which > Campbell confessed to 20 years later to you, John B and Dick Swan (as > part of his 12 step program for cocaine abuse), then when John & I sat > down at the Heidelburg Cafe on Telegraph to found the first comics > retailer association to end air freight - I always considered him - you - > the rest of the San Jose gang as friends. > > One thing - I read the missive you posted to comicbookfanzines list - > and I will not post anything there now as the timing is not correct - > but, just between you and me, it still hurts to be "written out" of C&C > history even now. > > I was there *before* Day One for Comics & Comix to open - and always have > -and always will - considered myself a "founder" of C&C along with John > and you. I poured my heart & soul into the operation while you were in > San Jose completing college. > > Before 1972 was out, I became an equal partner when John came to owe you > three grand, you were ready to pull the plug which would have sunk the > operation in its infancy - and your exact words were to John, "I am not > going to throw any more good money after bad" and were going to walk > away. > > I took over that debt, took on that damn janitor 2nd job working nights > to pay that off after working full days in the Berkeley store with that > same company Mike worked for - or was it Fred, I no longer remember. > > Anyway, it was so long ago - it no longer matters. > > John is gone - and may he rest in peace. > I'll miss him a lot also. > > bob > ************************************* > Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine > writing > Sent: 3/16/20 8:23 PM > Received: 3/15/01 1:04 PM > From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com > To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com > > I'm not writing you out of anything. The bottom line is that this is about > John. I mentioned Buser and Swan only in passing, as they were close > friends > of John since the early 1960s and were traveled to cons together and were > partners previously > > If it was not for John, there would have never been a C&C and that is my > point here. He wanted to be a partner with me, so we came up with the > store > idea. Maybe it was my idea, maybe his. But it was not yours and you were > not > there for that first discussion and you were not walking the streets in > Berkeley when John and I found a location (and John got teargassed). The > sole reason you ended up there at the very beginning was because your car > broke down as you were going back home. I remember that we asked you to > join > us, but you were going back to college. > > The store would have opened without you. That does not take away from all > you did for it in the early days. Okay? > > You were instrumental and very important in the early days, but I also > don't > mention Scott Maple or ANYONE else. This, again, is about John and I don't > believe including you or John Campbell or anyone else adds to it. I > mentioned there were other partners. Let's give John the credit he > deserves > here and not obscure it with unnessary detail. > > If you want to debate this further, as a friend, please save it for > another > time. I'm really not in the mood right now. > > Thanks > Best, > > Bud > ************************* > > Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine > writing > Sent: 3/15/01 1:28 PM > To: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com > > Bud > > I fully understand this was about John, and as a friend, and in memory of > John, I was going to post stuff about him also, from my perspective, but > my car breaking down was not the reason at all in the beginning I ended > up in San Jose, then working in Berkeley helping to set up that first > store. The car engine blow up came later - well after Labor Day. > > Remember, the San Diego comicon had ended mid August - you talked me into > coming up to SanJose to hang for a bit (approx two weeks), then going > back down to Los Angeles for the World SF Con at the airport. > > I stayed at John & Karen's house (inside on the grounds of a golf course > ?) sleeping on their couch the entire time. I believe John's dad worked > at that gold course? > > Your mail order business was still at John's house there - that first > room as one came in the front door. The first day we got up to San Jose > we went to John's house. He was all hot to get back into the comics > business - not wanting to work at the grocery store any more. > > He wanted to "buy in" to your mail order trip, you didn't want to go that > path. His rationale was two people could make twice as much as one doing > the mail order. > > i remember distinctly you and me having involved discussion away from > John about what you should do with this conundrum - as you weren't sure > at the time (August 1972) whether it would support you alone yet, much > less John AND Karen plus you. > > the store concept in Berkeley was a secondary compromise since you owed > him a couple grand for his percentage of the profit from what he sold > while you were gone on the comicon circuit. So, the initial funding was > what you owed John plus you kicked in an equal amount. > > When I went up with you and John to that 2512 Telegraph Ave, the store > front was still very empty - and I was there when the negotiations had > that first store front split into two as the lease was signed - as "we" > were only going to take the left half of it. > > Indeed, the initial set up was inside all of the space until Ellsworth > and Rosenberg (landlords) found someone to rent the right hand side. I > remember us meeting with Al Davoron for him to paint that lightening bolt > design behind the cash register. the first day of setting up we sold as > the very first item sold a Creepy #1 for $3. > > You and John tried like the dickens to get me to stay - but I felt > obligation to my parents to get my college degree, so I headed out with > just 3 days to make late registration, you gave me some white crosses to > stay awake, I picked up that hitch hiker at the rest stop up on the bluff > outside Reno who was the one who drove too fast causing that 1965 Impala > engine to explode. > > I was initially going to sit out that one semester - and felt I might as > well do it in California - and that is when we rented Harmony lane enxt > to those biker-types. > > I honestly am not trying to start any type of fight - all this this was > 30 years ago - and I am just as saddened by John's untimely demise as > you. I am getting a slow start today. > > peace > bob > > **************** > > Be that as it may, I first met "the San Jose gang", at the 1969 Houston > comics show Roy Bonario, Marc Schooley, & crew used to host. In 1970, > 1971 and again in1972 we ran into each other so much, we began caravaning > together, splitting motel rooms to save $$$ to buymore comics. > > It was pressure from you that i should "escape" Nebraska which brought > me to San Jose in August 1972 right after the San Diego comicon. > > I would say we collectively thought up the "store within a store" concept > as we had all that lumber from having built the art display area for the > "x" rated art show at the Berkeley con in 1973 - plus we had scored the > Tom Reilly "San Francisco" pedigree collection - and what with the > ensuing international publicity on UPI and AP for my having sold the > first comic book to break the $2000 barrier, the phones were "hot" with > people wanting to sell us old comic books. i did run the old comics > section, yes. John B ran the new comics side of things. > > I left due to missing $$$ and cash - John B thought I did it. My > feelings at the time were "You (C&C) needs me more than I need you" - > plus I knew I was innocent. Jon Campbell confessed to you, John B, and > Dick Swan 20 years later. > > i went back to college, sold out for $12K payable at $100 a week or so - > had incredible fights sometimes to collect, BTW, which you probably got a > one sided report on at the time - and did not re-enter the comic book > store business for a year and a half later in late 1976 when I opened a > small store at in the Haight Ashbury. > > At the time, you would not wholesale into the Bay Area the material you & > Phil had exclusives on. EVERY store to the Bay Area had to buy from Phil > and have it reshipped from New York City This was because C&C talked you > into not wholesaling in the Bay Area so C&C could maintain a competitive > advantage. > > I finally got so pissed off at perceived injustices that when the > Berkeley C&C moved up the street in 1977, I went to our old land lords, > Ellsworth & Rosenburg, and promptly rented 2512 Telegraph Ave - focusing > on out of print material at first as C&C never truly recovered its old > comics stature after my departure. > > The price wars are legend to those you benefited from them. The longest > one was below cost for over 4 months as we tried to knock each other off > the street. Air Freight entered the picture from Russ Ernst (Glenwood, > Sparta). > > Finally, John B and I sat down for a meeting and then called on all other > comics dealers in the Bay Area to a huge meeting out by the Oakland Air > Port where everybody decided not to feed the airlines any more except Bob > Sidebottom. That was the early 80s. > > In the final analysis, the first C&C outlet, The Berkeley Comic Art Shop, > was John's initial idea as a 2nd best scenerio when you would not let him > buy into the mail order aspect. I still remember the 3 of us going to > Berkeley together before the lease was signed & being present for the > lease negotiations. Once the store was up, John & I ran it. John knew > almost nothing about the then current state of of comic book dealing as > he had been "out" of it for a couple years after Comic World closed up. > > Was I an official partner who signed that first lease in August 1972? > No. > > However, except for the few days I headed back to the University of > Nebraska-Lincoln & that car engine, I was very much an active participant > in building the store before it opened and every day - seven days a week > from August 1972 thru the Berkeley Comicon April 1973 - for a very long > time - working a 2nd job to pay off the money John owed you - and that > happened in 1972 as well. > > I was not "dismayed" at the way you remember history, "disappointed" is > more the word for it. probably no one in the world cares about the fine > C&C details, but you, me, - and John. > > best > Robert Beerbohm, > proud to have known John Barrett > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Mar 23 20:34:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 24 Mar 2001 04:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 62051 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2001 04:34:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2001 04:34:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 24 Mar 2001 04:34:50 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15143 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:34:49 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.164] (ppp23.netimaging.com [208.136.132.164]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA14965; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:34:45 -0600 Message-Id: <200103240434.WAA14965@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 01 22:32:48 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: , "scott maple" Cc: "R. C. Harvey" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm Mr Smith After receiving a number of private emails wondering why Bud left me out of C&C as well as wondering if Bud was "mad" at me because he wrote me out of C&C history, I posted what I did. I have no need to "polish" a resume. That's for someone who feels insecure, much less "settle" any score. Life moved on years ago, unfortunately history did not. I very much honor the memory of John Barrett - as I did in life meeting up with him at numerous comicons the past batch of years and the last time was just such a short time ago. He was very upbeat - told me "Bob, I am going to whip this thing" and I prayed for him. I posted this yesterday to the SA-GA list here in yahoogroups. I apologize for those receiving this twice as a cross post, but you might want to still check it out as I added a few things: I am sad cuz my friend and one time partner John Barrett passed away - tonight I am remembering when he & I were riding up from San Jose heading to Berkeley and were coming up to the Emeryville Exit before hitting Ashby Ave exit (to pit stop to pick up Print Mint Zap Comics & others) when we centered on the name Comics & Comix to call the company with each individual store titled "CITY Comic Art Shop" to leave it with a local flavor. we thought of and discarded dozens upon dozens of combos - didn't use Graphic because Richard Kyle had that in his magazines' name. He and Fred Patton opened up Graphic Story Bookshop about a year after we established in Berkeley, a few months after we opened a San Francisco store which I went to every day the first month teaching then new 4th partner Jon Campbell comic book sales techniques. He quickly learned and I began to spend more time exclusively dealing with our burgeoning rare comics business. John Barrett tended to scoring much of the new stuff as his job focus, though there were plenty of times I went into Gilboy alone and plenty of times we went together. There had to be a couple trips into Gilboy a week as new stuff arrived there daily. ya snooze, ya lose. cuz there also had to be almost weekly trips to Print Mint for Zap & others, Rip Off for Freak Bros & others, Last Gasp for Slow Death & others. They all had Crumb comix and we went thru a lot of them. They took to calling us when something new was coming off the bindery. As we began our frontal assault to expand the comics market into specialty stores placed strategicly in the Bay Area, just getting that first one profitable was a bear. A few times we dispaired where the next batch of money would come in each week, sometimes daily. But it always seemed to show up. Getting cool selling comics that were "new" was a constant challenge - whether that be just printed issues from Sparta or the then burgeoning local underground comix community - we quickly became a major outlet and took an initial order of 1000 Zap Comics #6 in early 1973 around the time of the first Berkeleycon and went back a couple days later for more following the first week end with it. Crumb ruled our Berkeley market - but so did Carl Barks and a host of other creative greats from times gone past. We wanted to carry it all - that is all the good stuff we could afford from around the world. the turning point was when John B and I decided that Nick Marcus & Mike Manyak were never going to get it together properly for that first Berkeleycon to happen properly to attract new customers to reading comics as an enjoyable past-time respite as well as attract working adults with more money to spend. So once we got back to San Jose and got to Harmony Lane, we talked to Bud Plant and together we developed the short & long term benefits of underwriting all the start up costs for Berkeleycon 73 to happen. All three of us worked our butts off and viewed it as an investment into our future, invading the Berkeley campus like we did. Clay Geerdes climbed on board and took that shot of us in THE UNDERGROUND FAMILY ALBUM Bud threw up on his web site. Bud sells this book. It was the day before the first day of the big event. The students were a buck a head and thousands came thru as we garnered major media coverage of our cultural event/celebration. general admission was $3, kids free. We cleared a very small "profit". Scott Maple was hired right before the Berkeleycon - and we liked him (well, one of us did not at the time) so much he became the Sacramento store's first manager growing it to further locations in the area. Our cosmic pay back for spreading the wonderful world of comics was obtaining the lion's share all the NM+-M pedigree collection once owned by Tom Reilly and known these days better as "The San Francisco Collection" - books many people say to this day are structurally better than its comparable Mile High counterpart. As the Reilly books sold, we became cash rich and invested into stores in San Francisco, Sacramento (run by Scott Maple) and San Jose (run by Dick Swan) as well as publishing the first few issues of The First Kingdom by Jack Katz by 1974 after giving the green light to Jack Katz in December 9173. Comics & Comix in its earlier incarnations was truly a benchmark by which other comic book stores were to be graded in the future in the eras I write about. It was the work of a team which constantly evolved & mutated over time till today the last few times I ventured into the Berkeley store's latest location I almost was saddened that it is a pale imitation of of itself - all the remains is the name. None of the glory. The incredible Bobby London logo sums up my version of C&C - all kines comics. If you haven't seen it before, score a copy (Bud sells this also) of Comic Book Artist #6 with its Part One of my "History of the Direct Sales Market" wherein I honor both John and Bud a couple years ago among many other layers. This beautiful work of art is pictured in CBA #6 (thanks to Bud for making a perfect stat as he owns the original art) and Jon Cooke ran some of Bud's cool old catalog covers Al Davaron drew up per my request and Bud's OK. He thanked me. Those earliest true catalogs were produced and mailed out of Harmony Lane, San Jose, where Bud & I shared a house while concepts of the direct sales market developed further. I learned my first catalog & zine layout from Jim Vadebonceour Jr there. God bless the reduction wheel. The First Kingdom was our entry into this budding embryonic system developed by The Print Mint with Zap Comics from one direction and GB Love from another other. It was my idea which the others accepted to take a chance and make a statement with Jack Katz's opus. John B came up with the idea to try it out thru the local ID distributor Gilboy and because we were such a good customer for new incoming comic books, they agreed to try it out and give us full cover returns. It did better than they expected but not well enough for us to retire on. We knew the Shenkers and the Ritas very well as John, Bud and I went to the Print Mint together many times as well as solo trips - the widows are still alive. So is Gary Arlington. G.B. Love was probably the guy who first sold thru a comics "direct market" when he introduced Ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe in RBCC. Both Phil and Bud learned from GB Love. We all owe GB big time. As we owe Jerry Bails for gathering collectors together to buy sell trade old comic books with his The Comic Collector and later Phil Seuling with his Seuling's Corner. The direct sales market earlier developed when the Fillmore/Avalon poster trip burned white hot bright from 1966-1968 and as it collapsed, The Print Mint developed Zap etc as they were fronted $10K by Moe Moskowitz, legendary as much for the Zap busts as his Moe's Books in Berkeley along with Fehrlingeti over at City Lights in San Fran. Zap went national in April 1968 just two months after the first two printings were made. Rick Griffin and Victor Moscoso switched art gears a bit and converted to comix. Comix quickly flooded all the head shops - sold direct from publisher to store. By 1969 Jack "Jaxon" Jackson went from being art director at Chet Helm's Family Dog and talked Gilbert Shelton into forming Rip Off Press. We sold a lot of Freak Brothers. We went to 17th & Missouri Street a lot also. Freaks & Zaps sold so well they almost were stocked weekly some times, at least twice a month. At least it seemed that way. CBA #7 (which Bud also sells) has Part Two released last year and I have been trying to finish Part 3 for a while now, but I am still layering down data about the Donohoe Brudders out of Ann Arbor, Michigan - the 2nd direct distributor from DC, Marvel, Warren, Archie as far as code comics go after Phil Seuling. I think I have it pieced after talking with a number of surviving earliest participants including all-around nice guy Jim Friel. C&C climbed into the experiment before day one. Properly addressing all the myriad layers of factors involved is complicated. C&C accomplished & inspired a lot in the comics world in its day - it had a lot of inspiration to draw upon as it also trail blazed for others to build upon or copy. While it had a basicly good dedicated crew, there is no doubt John Barrett was responsible for a large part of that success in the years 1972-1988. He always tried to maintain an upbeat positive attitude. Anybody ramrodding a company for 16 years earns the right to be spiritual leader. Thanks for reading thru some of my Happy B thoughts - may he rest in peace. robert beerbohm From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Sat Mar 24 06:39:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 24 Mar 2001 14:39:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3025 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2001 14:39:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2001 14:39:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Mar 2001 14:39:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Received: from [10.1.2.30] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2001 14:39:39 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:39:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Self publishing a fanzine today... Message-ID: <99ibj8+b5ac@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1705 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.58 From: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Anything I've ever done could never compare with some of which I read and re-read since joining this list. I guess we all look for something within us to become satisfied when we embrace this thing called... comic books. Fresh, as I tag-named it, began over 9 years ago. It was so important to me then, as still is now, to try and awaken the imagination of younger readers. Not an easy thing to do. We each know that the market is booming with variety, right? But still, younger readers do not venture this way. I'm almost resigned to believe that we need another revelation like the culmination of the direct sales market ... only in reverse ...to re-energize the mindset of America. Not from a shock value point. We really need to work better to each other's advantage.... Reader, fan, collector, retailer, artist, writer, and the like. Clearly, folks like Bob B. and Bud P. could be factors in a new movement. Their passion for the past could help open the door to the future. "You did it once already, guys." I realize that ORCA's Fresh is virtually unknown to most of you. All in all though, I'd like you to each take a moment to take a look at our online site - http://www.orcafresh.net Our next hard copy issue of Fresh will be ready to mail shortly. It could probably not replace anything created previously. In olden days, people would gather around a campfire and tell of their experiences...good & bad. We don't do that anymore nearly enough as we should. Letter columns in comic books have all but disappeared. It isn't about the money...it's the spirit that we need to grasp again. Anyway, thanks for trying to wander the mind of Rick Olney. Regards, -Rick- From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Mar 25 11:07:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 25 Mar 2001 19:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 29660 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 19:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2001 19:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 19:07:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.2.74] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2001 19:07:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:07:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scaning ditto's ( No, NOT Ditkos! ) Message-ID: <99lfl9+pa2t@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <97k3f7+lphe@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2371 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.195 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Keep me informed when those disks are available! Would love to have a set of comic zines. I think many fans who became pros got their start in fanzines (their first work being published there). To see the earliest work of pros would be a gift to future generations. Ask each publisher who has the copyright for 50 (?) years though. Maybe some would be willing to have it become a profit sharing thing. Where the artists and contributor's could all receive something if suddenly thousands of people wanted copies. That aspect seems like a lot of work since I don't have the phone number or addresses of 99% of the contributor's to my zines. On Graphic Illusions (I allegedly have the copyright) but I've recently discovered most of the zine has been printed without my permission in one form or another. If it benefits the artist I cannot complain. But the Alicia Austin was used by a rock group without permission and I've long wanted to find out which group (George Barr told me it occurred). I would certainly have tried to bet some bucks for that infringment. (Been a while since I've been back to this great group--forgive me for randomly jumping back in without reading hundreds of threads). --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., flash14221@y... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > You have my permission to scan and distribute any of my fanzines > from the > > 1960s (none later), either on disk or via the Internet as long as > you do two > > things: (1) charge only for the disks & shipping costs; > > *** Absolutly,I want to preserve and archive some of this before it's > lost. It would be available to members of this list at cost, which > would be rather low. > > and (2) add > a line > > below each page scanned saying > > Reproduced courtesy of Jerry Bails. See > http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ > > > > I'd appreciate receiving copies of the disks myself, > **** Absolutly again! > > although I'd > hope > > someone was putting these early zines on a CD. (I just must get > myself a CD > > writer; I'm falling behind technologically.) > > > ***** I've found mine to be invaluable for storing and sharing > data.Along with a scanner a CD writer is a great investment, and not > too expensive in the long run, an external can run $150 to $200. > > Best, > Gord From bbush@mmcable.com Mon Mar 26 13:42:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bbush@mmcable.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 26 Mar 2001 21:42:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 25736 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 21:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2001 21:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.mmcable.com) (24.94.163.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 21:42:46 -0000 Received: from pumpkin.mmcable.com ([24.27.133.165]) by mail1.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:39:51 -0600 Message-ID: <009f01c0b63d$22ea13c0$a5851b18@mmcable.com> Reply-To: "b bush" To: References: <985612417.138.44016.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RBCCs for sale Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:38:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: bbush@mmcable.com From: "b bush" Pretty slow here on the fanzine list these days.. you might want to check out my ebay offerings this week..I've got some RBCC, ERB-dom, and other early 1960's fanzines up for bid. Just look up my auctions under my id of bartmon thankx! bart From tmhamilton@aol.com Mon Mar 26 19:51:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tmhamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 03:51:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 96625 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 03:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 03:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 03:51:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tmhamilton@aol.com Received: from [10.1.10.124] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2001 03:51:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:51:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? Message-ID: <99p2o4+fsmu@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 92 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.207.191 From: tmhamilton@aol.com I just realized that my "run" of "I'll Be Damned" runs from #1 & #2 to #4. Does #3 exist? From tmhamilton@aol.com Mon Mar 26 19:56:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tmhamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 03:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22129 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 03:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 03:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (64.211.240.233) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 03:56:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tmhamilton@aol.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2001 03:56:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:56:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Graphic Story Magazine #9 Cover Message-ID: <99p30r+gip9@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 465 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.207.191 From: tmhamilton@aol.com The copy of Graphic Story Magazine #9 in my collection has essentially a white background with a colored ink (it may be red, but I'm a bit color blind :-)replacing what would have been the black plate. However, I seem to recall that a friend of mine had one with a red background and the lines in black. Since that was about 30 years ago, is my memory correct? Has anyone ever seen one with the red cover? And if so, were there mutiple printings? Thanks From ogden@csd.com Tue Mar 27 08:06:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 16:06:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 58305 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 16:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 16:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 16:06:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.104] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2001 16:06:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:06:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: What is a comics fanzine? Message-ID: <99qdqu+oq27@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1370 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.13 From: "Steve Ogden" I've been working on updating the fanzine list and one question always seems to be going through my brain while I'm working on it. Should this item be included on the list? What exactly is the definition of a "comics fanzine"? The easy answer is simple - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed at the comic book fan, produced by amateurs. But even though "amateur" or "non-profit" is certainly the first thing I think of when I think of comics fanzines, including "amateurs" in the definition would eliminate such issues as Alter Ego #11 and an entire cadre of titles such as Amazing Heroes and The Comics Journal. And I for one would like to see such titles on the list of comics fanzines. So the definition could go something like - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed at the comic book fan. Just leave off "amateur" all together. But all comic books themselves would fit this definition. It's frustrating! I know what a comic fanzine is (a varied lot of items from Alter Ego #1 to The Comics Journal #200, from Capa-Alpha to The Comic Buyers Guide, even such items as Xero (really a Science Fiction fanzine) and Witzend and even Norb's Notes at times.), I just can't define it in such a way that will encompass everything that a comics fanzine is. Anyone out there have any ideas on just what a comics fanzine is? - Steve Ogden From ogden@csd.com Tue Mar 27 08:09:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 16:08:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 81319 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 16:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 16:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 16:08:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.104] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2001 16:08:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:08:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? Message-ID: <99qduk+v8pj@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <99p2o4+fsmu@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 302 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.13 From: "Steve Ogden" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., tmhamilton@a... wrote: > I just realized that my "run" of "I'll Be Damned" runs from #1 & #2 > to #4. Does #3 exist? I don't own a #3 either, and have not seen one. I suspect, as you do, that #3 was not published (or possibly titled something else?). - Steve Ogden From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Tue Mar 27 08:59:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 16:59:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18792 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.49) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 18:00:07 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.231.43]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010327165902.OFXU29681.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl> for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:59:02 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c0b6df$26f00400$2be7490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: References: <985704077.191.74398.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 52 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:58:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Hi TM Hamilton, I don't have access to my fanzine collection at the moment but if GSM # 9 is the issue with the Tom Sutton western scene I can confirm that there are indeed two different versions, one for subscribers and one for newsstand distribution. Bill Spicer actually distributed later issues in the Los Angeles area and for that issue at least (and I suspect other issues) recolored and redesigned the cover to look more like a typical newsstand periodical for the part of the press run he intended to place around town. I know this because he sent me a second copy of the issue (with the image slightly rejiggered) when I complained the layout of the cover I got as a subscriber broke up Sutton's image in an unpleasing manner. Around here somewhere I have both copies. Anthony Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:41 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 52 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 3 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RBCCs for sale > From: "b bush" > 2. I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? > From: tmhamilton@aol.com > 3. Graphic Story Magazine #9 Cover > From: tmhamilton@aol.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:38:44 -0600 > From: "b bush" > Subject: RBCCs for sale > > Pretty slow here on the fanzine list these days.. > you might want to check out my ebay > offerings this week..I've got some RBCC, ERB-dom, and other early 1960's > fanzines up for bid. > Just look up my auctions under my id of bartmon > thankx! > > bart > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:51:32 -0000 > From: tmhamilton@aol.com > Subject: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? > > I just realized that my "run" of "I'll Be Damned" runs from #1 & #2 > to #4. Does #3 exist? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:56:11 -0000 > From: tmhamilton@aol.com > Subject: Graphic Story Magazine #9 Cover > > The copy of Graphic Story Magazine #9 in my collection has > essentially a white background with a colored ink (it may be red, but > I'm a bit color blind :-)replacing what would have been the black > plate. However, I seem to recall that a friend of mine had one with > a red background and the lines in black. Since that was about 30 > years ago, is my memory correct? Has anyone ever seen one with the > red cover? And if so, were there mutiple printings? Thanks > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From mcatron@planetcable.net Tue Mar 27 09:13:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 17:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 54107 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 17:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 17:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO venus.planetcable.net) (24.137.12.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 18:14:49 -0000 Received: from [24.137.19.237] (unverified [24.137.19.237]) by venus.planetcable.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [cbzines] What is a comics fanzine? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:13:45 -0500 x-sender: mcatron@pop.planetcable.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From: M Catron On 3/27/01 11:06 AM Steve Ogden at ogden@csd.com said: >The easy answer is simple - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed >at the comic book fan, produced by amateurs. But even though >"amateur" or "non-profit" is certainly the first thing I think of when >I think of comics fanzines, including "amateurs" in the definition >would eliminate such issues as Alter Ego #11 and an entire cadre of >titles such as Amazing Heroes and The Comics Journal. And I for one >would like to see such titles on the list of comics fanzines. > >So the definition could go something like - A magazine with a comic >book theme, aimed at the comic book fan. Just leave off "amateur" all >together. But all comic books themselves would fit this definition. Well, if you say a comics fanzine is a magazine primarily _about_ some aspect of comic books (including the study of comic books, the art of comic books, the history of comic books, reviews of comic books, news of comic books and their creators, etc.), or comic book collecting, you'll include just about everything you want -- but now you're excluding comic books such as Star-Studded Comics (which was actually at least as professional as some lesser Golden Age titles), Witzend, Badtime Stories, and other worthy titles. You might want to include something about commercial intent -- many fanzines hope to make money but that's not what drives the decision to publish. Many lose money with every copy sold -- in those cases, sales are merely one source of subsidy for the project. Marvel and DC have published fanzines -- justified as a public relations function -- but I call them fanzines, nonetheless. (Though not as "pure" as independent fanzines.) The Comics Journal, Amazing Heroes, CBG, and a few others became business ventures in their own right -- but I would still classify them as fanzines. I remember years ago we had terms for all kinds of subspecies of fanzines -- adzines, articlezines, stripzines, newszines, prozines (sometimes referring to magazines produced by pros, such as Witzend, and other times referring to professional-looking efforts) and, for the judgmentally-inclined, crudzines. Fanzines from Marvel, DC, and Wizard, might be called "hypezines." You might want to consider distribution avenues (primarily mail order, through comics shops) but the decline and fall of comics themselves as a mass medium blurs the distinction still further. You can find The Comics Journal in Borders and other bookstores, but not in all comics shops. Is Overstreet's Price Guide a fanzine? Moving into the multimedia world, would my own modestly-titled The Mike Catron Show be a fanzine ("fandom's first tape-recorded fanzine" if I recall my own advertising tagline correctly)? If yes, what about a movie such as "Crumb"? In the end, you may have to look at what's in the heart of the publisher -- I would certainly want to include everything that springs from a genuine love, enthusiasm, and respect for the medium. "Amateur" in the best sense of the word. From RJCroxton@aol.com Tue Mar 27 10:50:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 18:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 25212 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 18:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 18:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 18:50:39 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.e5.3d6d97d (4355) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:11 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] What is a comics fanzine? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10502 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/01 9:25:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, mcatron@planetcable.net writes: > > Well, if you say a comics fanzine is a magazine primarily _about_ some > aspect of comic books (including the study of comic books, the art of > comic books, the history of comic books, reviews of comic books, news of > comic books and their creators, etc.), or comic book collecting, you'll > include just about everything you want -- but now you're excluding comic > books such as Star-Studded Comics (which was actually at least as > professional as some lesser Golden Age titles), Witzend, Badtime Stories, > and other worthy titles. > > You might want to include something about commercial intent -- many > fanzines hope to make money but that's not what drives the decision to > publish. Many lose money with every copy sold -- in those cases, sales > are merely one source of subsidy for the project. > > I'm still waiting to break even on TALES FROM THE ATTIC. ;-) Last two issues have been late due to cost of printing, I try to make sure they are as good as I can make them. Profit has nothing to do with TFTA, this is my dream come true. May 15 will be the first anniversary for TFTA and I am looking forward to the 2nd year. Will TFTA change in future issues? YES! Every issue I try to do something new, who knows maybe #7 will come out on time. One of my biggest joys in TFTA is seeing others willing to contribute their time to my dream. People like Lyle Tucker, Gordon Green, Steve Chung, Bill Nolan, Jen Contino, David Luhn, Stefan Dogaru and several others have made TFTA better than it could ever have been on my own. Thanks guys. TFTA will go on as long as it continues to be the joy for me it has been. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC RJC Enterprises 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Mar 27 10:53:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 18:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17106 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 18:52:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 18:52:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 18:52:58 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.25.12e47089 (4254) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:52:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <25.12e47089.27f23b64@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:52:20 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/01 11:19:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, ogden@csd.com writes: > I don't own a #3 either, and have not seen one. I suspect, as you do, > that #3 was not published (or possibly titled something else?). > I have very vague memories of this last scenario... (but I take it, nothing in #4 indicates that?) Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Mar 27 14:30:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 27 Mar 2001 22:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 625 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 22:29:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Mar 2001 22:29:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 22:29:48 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.3f.12a9c3a0 (4566) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:29:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3f.12a9c3a0.27f26e50@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:29:36 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] What is a comics fanzine? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 3/27/01 11:09:33 AM, ogden@csd.com writes: << So the definition could go something like - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed at the comic book fan. Just leave off "amateur" all together. But all comic books themselves would fit this definition. >> How about this? A Comics Fanzine: a magazine ABOUT comics or comics fandom. The only thing this definition specifically doesn't cover (which some might want included) would be small press comics themselves, but if they attempted to be more than just comic books (amateur or otherwise) by including articles and features ABOUT comics or fandom, they would still quality as comics fanzines. We should not exclude fan efforts just because they come from pros. Some pros are the biggest comics fans. Bestest, Jerry From tmhamilton@aol.com Tue Mar 27 17:29:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 01:29:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 62695 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 01:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 01:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 01:29:56 -0000 Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.78.1282505d (25310) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:29:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78.1282505d.27f29890@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:29:52 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 352 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/01 11:20:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, ogden@csd.com writes: > > I just realized that my "run" of "I'll Be Damned" runs from #1 & #2 > > to #4. Does #3 exist? > > I don't own a #3 either, and have not seen one. I suspect, as you do, > that #3 was not published (or possibly titled something else?). > > My hypothesis was that "Scream Door" may have been renamed from IBD, since they shared the same publisher and contributors ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tmhamilton@aol.com Tue Mar 27 17:31:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 01:31:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 65939 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 01:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 01:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 02:32:52 -0000 Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.67.11b67200 (25310) for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:31:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <67.11b67200.27f298fd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:31:41 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: I'll Be Damned #3 - Does it exist? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 352 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/27/01 3:22:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > I don't own a #3 either, and have not seen one. I suspect, as you do, > > that #3 was not published (or possibly titled something else?). > > > > I have very vague memories of this last scenario... > (but I take it, nothing in #4 indicates that?) > > Nope [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Tue Mar 27 22:45:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 06:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 41073 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 06:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 06:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 06:45:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.65] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2001 06:45:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:45:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: What is a comics fanzine? Message-ID: <99s1b2+spmb@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <99qdqu+oq27@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2114 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.10 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I definately define Witzend to be a fanzine but not Locus. I'd say anything mass produced should not be considered a fanzine. So print runs under 10,000 (or ?) could be called a Fanzine (this not not set in stone--just playing with ideas). Apa-L which is published by a Science Fiction Club (individual weekly contributions) with "print runs" of 25-20 copies and other apa's (amateur press association) sometimes have comic strips or comic art. Capa-Alpha is a fanzine (sometimes fanzines within fanzines). A mix of pro and amateur art and story or articles should still be considered a fanzine I feel. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Steve Ogden" wrote: > I've been working on updating the fanzine list and one question always > seems to be going through my brain while I'm working on it. Should > this item be included on the list? What exactly is the definition of > a "comics fanzine"? > > The easy answer is simple - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed > at the comic book fan, produced by amateurs. But even though > "amateur" or "non-profit" is certainly the first thing I think of when > I think of comics fanzines, including "amateurs" in the definition > would eliminate such issues as Alter Ego #11 and an entire cadre of > titles such as Amazing Heroes and The Comics Journal. And I for one > would like to see such titles on the list of comics fanzines. > > So the definition could go something like - A magazine with a comic > book theme, aimed at the comic book fan. Just leave off "amateur" all > together. But all comic books themselves would fit this definition. > > It's frustrating! I know what a comic fanzine is (a varied lot of > items from Alter Ego #1 to The Comics Journal #200, from Capa-Alpha to > The Comic Buyers Guide, even such items as Xero (really a Science > Fiction fanzine) and Witzend and even Norb's Notes at times.), I just > can't define it in such a way that will encompass everything that a > comics fanzine is. > > Anyone out there have any ideas on just what a comics fanzine is? > > - Steve Ogden From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Tue Mar 27 22:55:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 06:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 56842 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 06:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 06:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 06:55:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.64] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2001 06:55:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:55:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What is a comics fanzine? Message-ID: <99s1sa+skq9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3902 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.10 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I think electronic fanzines (a series of connected web pages) should be included in the definition of fanzine if it has previously unpublished fan art, strips, aarticles etc. But Marvel or D.C. published fanzines I would rarely classify as fanzines. The independently produced zines by affictionadoes not getting a pay check from a major publisher should be considered fanzines. Though the early Marvelmania issues do feel like fanzines and I can accept that definition (begrudgingly). But not Amazing world of DC. Spa Fon, Squa Tront--now those were fanzines! This fanzine group is a fanzine. I have said it. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., M Catron wrote: > On 3/27/01 11:06 AM Steve Ogden at ogden@c... said: > > >The easy answer is simple - A magazine with a comic book theme, aimed > >at the comic book fan, produced by amateurs. But even though > >"amateur" or "non-profit" is certainly the first thing I think of when > >I think of comics fanzines, including "amateurs" in the definition > >would eliminate such issues as Alter Ego #11 and an entire cadre of > >titles such as Amazing Heroes and The Comics Journal. And I for one > >would like to see such titles on the list of comics fanzines. > > > >So the definition could go something like - A magazine with a comic > >book theme, aimed at the comic book fan. Just leave off "amateur" all > >together. But all comic books themselves would fit this definition. > > Well, if you say a comics fanzine is a magazine primarily _about_ some > aspect of comic books (including the study of comic books, the art of > comic books, the history of comic books, reviews of comic books, news of > comic books and their creators, etc.), or comic book collecting, you'll > include just about everything you want -- but now you're excluding comic > books such as Star-Studded Comics (which was actually at least as > professional as some lesser Golden Age titles), Witzend, Badtime Stories, > and other worthy titles. > > You might want to include something about commercial intent -- many > fanzines hope to make money but that's not what drives the decision to > publish. Many lose money with every copy sold -- in those cases, sales > are merely one source of subsidy for the project. > > Marvel and DC have published fanzines -- justified as a public relations > function -- but I call them fanzines, nonetheless. (Though not as "pure" > as independent fanzines.) > > The Comics Journal, Amazing Heroes, CBG, and a few others became business > ventures in their own right -- but I would still classify them as > fanzines. > > I remember years ago we had terms for all kinds of subspecies of fanzines > -- adzines, articlezines, stripzines, newszines, prozines (sometimes > referring to magazines produced by pros, such as Witzend, and other times > referring to professional-looking efforts) and, for the > judgmentally-inclined, crudzines. Fanzines from Marvel, DC, and Wizard, > might be called "hypezines." > > You might want to consider distribution avenues (primarily mail order, > through comics shops) but the decline and fall of comics themselves as a > mass medium blurs the distinction still further. You can find The Comics > Journal in Borders and other bookstores, but not in all comics shops. > > Is Overstreet's Price Guide a fanzine? > > Moving into the multimedia world, would my own modestly-titled The Mike > Catron Show be a fanzine ("fandom's first tape-recorded fanzine" if I > recall my own advertising tagline correctly)? If yes, what about a movie > such as "Crumb"? > > In the end, you may have to look at what's in the heart of the publisher > -- I would certainly want to include everything that springs from a > genuine love, enthusiasm, and respect for the medium. "Amateur" in the > best sense of the word. From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Tue Mar 27 23:29:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 07:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 30848 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 07:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 07:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 07:29:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2001 07:29:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:29:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ZineLand Message-ID: <99s3s3+u1fm@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2582 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.10 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Just for fun why don't we all list a list of every fanzine we own. In the next 2 months or sooner I pledge to type up of a list of all the zines I own. ----ad:------kind of: My fanzine Graphic Illusion #1 (2001 edition is now out--sort of*). I'm offering the "ashcan version" for $25.00 and one will get special premiums with it. I printed just 10 copies of it. If there is sufficient interest I may print up to 100 copies of a limited version. It will have full color. Since I'm doing all the work putting it out I've decided that for the first 3 issues I will have total control over everything good and bad about it. Then I will relax and accept contributions from others. My intent is to publish 3 issues by August. As I have said the April issue is out for anyone who sends me money (I'm actually going to print them with the money sent to me). Regular copies without premiums will be $10.00 (Though it is hard for me not to include special stuff free). The first issue has my Marvel article and my art and a drawing I had a pro do. The second issue will probably have a lot of art by Mike Bennett (sketches--rough layout for a comic) and my Hawkmistress story. This new Graphic Illusion #1 (note no "s" as in my 1971 version of Graphic Illusions) will be sold at whatever my actual printing cost is (so far it is costing $8.00 per copy at the printers where I live). People in this Fanzine Group who order it now may do so for $10.00 (the eventual cost by the time you order it--should you do so) plus shipping $3.50 via Priority or $2.00 for first class. I'll put it on ebay Wednesday under Original Art--but the cover is much different than the contents. Some of which is a mystery. It has been 30 years since my last issue. ---this is fun--- Either Issue #2 or #3 of Graphic Illusion will have a full color George Barr Cover done 30 years ago and unpublished. All will probably be 8 1/2 x 11. Some may not be saddlestiched. (#1 is). graphic-illusion.com ------ Ad #2: George Barr Folio Collaboration: eith plates each by a different great artist (left over overrun from Graphic Illusions Summer 1971 issue (only 200 extra were ever printed). Pencils by: Jeff Jones, Tim Kirk, Bjo Trimble, Cathy Hill, Alicia Austin, Wendy Fletcher before she became Wendy Pini, and others. All inked by George Barr!!! $10.00. Shipping just $2.00! ------Selling well on ebay now------- Rob Gustaveson 23837 108th Ave SE #442 Kent, WA 98031 Don't delay order today! I may break even in a year. WOW! GOSH WOW! ................ From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Tue Mar 27 23:47:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 07:47:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 62788 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.113] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:47:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The George Barr Folio Collaboration Message-ID: <99s4tt+ngvb@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 713 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.10 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Eight Plates. Here is the ebay ad for it: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1127328965 (cut and paste). I also have 1971 Graphic Illusion Fanzine offered on Ebay off and on-- it sells occasionally for $35.00 there. I'd be willing to trade it and $10. for the Art of Frank Frazetta Book 3 or? Let me know. Thanks. Rob Also with the folio I include a bit of fandom history from my perspective. Sample: (You'll laugh--1st draft): http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/addendumBarr2.htm Later drafts will make you cry. And I retyped the Barr write up of each plate (fancier typefont) The folio remains unchanged. I am sold out of Graphic Illusion #1 (1971 edition--completely)! From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Wed Mar 28 00:18:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 08:18:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8447 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 08:18:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 08:18:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cj.egroups.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 08:18:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.65] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2001 08:18:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:17:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta Message-ID: <99s6nn+tpdg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102111446.f1BEkoq93724@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5366 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.10 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Jumping in randomly I really enjoyed your post. Is there one 1960's Kirby book where you liked Vince Colleta's inking?. I think I liked his work. I plan to read every post this week. I designed this: http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/banner2000.jpg graphic-illusion.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" wrote: > -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > > Steve Rowe wrote: > > > Hmm, I believe that most of what fans call solo Colletta work in the > romance > > books, are products of his shop. Where he had folks like Matt Baker and > > Maurice Whtiman doing the pencilling in the early 1960s. > > That's very true Steve but Colletta was drawing romance comics continuously > from 1953 to 1960. If you track it all back as I have you begin to see > "true" Colletta emerging about 1955 and if you continue it further back to > 1954 and 1953 you see exactly what "solo" Colletta looks like. (Just be > careful for those Standard Art Saaf/Colletta stories). From then you can > look at all the later 1950's Colletta and be able to tell when he's using > ghosts. Baker under Colletta is the easiest to distinguish as the panel > layouts and figure work are nothing like what Vinnie himself would do. I'll > list some below. Solo Colletta was classic pin-up style "good girl" art. > It was stiff but very appealing. The women were gorgeous. He could have > been a wonderful fashion artist. I'm in the last stages of indexing the > "entire" Timely/Atlas romance line and have been immersed in Vinnie's > romance work for months. I refuse to knock Vinnie Colletta for his inking. > He was mis-matched with Jack Kirby on super hero features. He was fast > though and Stan Lee certainly didn't seem to mind that the product got out > on time. > > By the way, this brings up memories of fighting it out with Colletta's > biggest basher, my late friend on Kirby-L Bruce Lowry. I'd work myself up > into a lather sometimes over his postings and I miss it greatly. He's dead > 2 years this week and Kirby-L hasn't been the same. > > Doc V. > > > > All these Baker / Colletta stories below need one more close going over. > Sometimes I have question marks on Baker, sometimes on Colletta. The odds > are that all are Baker/Colletta. I just need more time and less sleep! > > > Baker / Colletta (?) WORLD OF FANTASY 17 Apr/59 H/F Pre-Hero > T-178 The Brain Picker! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY 50 Jan/59 H/F Pre-Hero > T-106 The Green Fog! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) TALES TO ASTONISH 2 Mar/59 H/F Pre-Hero > T-126 I Fell to the Center of the Earth! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 66 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero > T-050 The Problem Of Pamela Nelson! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-??? This Was My Honeymoon! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 70 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero T > -301 If Love Is Blind 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-423 Don't Break My Heart Again 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 72 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-429 Can't You See I Love You! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 cover Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero > > Baker / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 73 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero > T-531 I Gave Up The Man I Love! 6 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) MY OWN ROMANCE 74 Mar/60 Romance Pre-Hero > T-613 I Loved A Scoundrel 7 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) TEEN-AGE ROMANCE 77 Sept/60 Romance Pre-Hero > T-8?? The Mistake Of mary Dixon 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. > O-051 I Left My Heart On The Other Side Of The Tracks! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 77 Sept/58 Romance Post-Imp. > O-106 He Was Here All The Time! 4 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero > M-964 First Date! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 78 Nov/58 Romance Pre-Hero > T-047 And One Was Beautiful! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-140 When I Meet My Dream Man 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 80 Mar/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-157 The Kind Of Girl He'll Marry! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-273 Better late Than Never! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 82 July/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-272 His Lips ... Or None! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-??? Don't Let Me Be An Old Maid! 5 pages > > Baker / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 83 Sept/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-363 Don't Try To Tame Me! 5 pages (page 3, panel 2 looks like Ann > Brewster inks!) > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-407 We Both Loved Tony! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta (?) LOVE ROMANCES 84 Nov/59 Romance Pre-Hero > T-401 I Loved And Lost! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 85 Jan/60 Romance Pre-Hero > T-531 (?) The Man I Love! 5 pages > > Baker (?) / Colletta LOVE ROMANCES 90 Nov/60 Romance Pre-Hero > T-924 Happily Ever After (splash page only!) From jgjensen@uniontel.net Wed Mar 28 07:25:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 15:25:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 57103 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 15:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 15:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 16:25:03 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod143.uniontel.net [209.94.180.153]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2SFS9r15853 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:28:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007501c0b793$9631de60$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:30:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi Anthony, off the subject and you are right about this I don't want to read that corespondence either, do you still put out catalogs of art etc? I believe that I bought a Thomas Nast original polictical cartoon from you? If you are that person, send me you lists I still buy and sell. Thanks Jonathan Jensen -----Original Message----- From: anthony f. smith To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 >Robert, > >As a friend of Bud's and someone who also knew John Barrett -and as the >"crew" who put on Houstoncon 1969 - you should know I find all of this >genuinely inappropriate and creepily offensive. > >I doubt I am the only one in this group who feels like you ought to be >reflecting on John's friendship and his contribution to the field rather >than filing grievances during a period of mourning. > >Despite Bud's personal request that you drop this for now you've plowed >ahead with airing your picayune objections. To make matters much worse >you've also printed two letters from Bud I suspect he intended to be private >correspondence. I can't imagine he wanted all this bandied about publicly. > >Whether you have Bud Plant's permission to offer his letters to this email >group or not (and if you did you should have stated that) this is none of >OUR business and I, for one, would prefer you quit polishing your resume >at the expense of John Barrett, Bud Plant, myself and all the other >unwilling particpants in this sad drama. > >A little common courtesy and a little common sense would be a fine way to >honor John's memory. If you still feel the need to settle old scores, do so >at a more appropriate point in the future... > >Anthony Smith >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:50 AM >Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 49 > > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> There is 1 message in this issue. >> >> Topics in this digest: >> >> 1. The Origin of Comics & Comix >> From: Robert Beerbohm >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 01 15:46:01 -0600 >> From: Robert Beerbohm >> Subject: The Origin of Comics & Comix >> >> FROM THE UNDERGROUND COMIX >> FAMILY ALBUM, the "Bud Plant" page >> Photo described also found at the >> John Barrett memorial at www.budplant.com >> (For Sale from Bud Plant): >> >> >>The photograph above not only captures the >> crew who organized the first underground >> Comix Con, at berkeley in 1973, but also >> records the nucleus of an expanding comix >> world. Pictures are: Bob Beerbpohm, >> kneeling, then left to right: Jo(h)n Campbell, >> Jim Pinkowski, Francis "Bud" Plant,Mike Manyak, >> Nick Marcus and John Barrett. Bud and John >> Barrett were the founding partners of the >> Comics &Comix bookstores, >> who then brought in John Campbell >> and Bob. Mike and Nick organized the >> convention, and Jim, a Comics & Comix store >> manager and cartoonist, helped with the publicity >> of the inaugural event. After Comics & Comix was >> sold to investors, the initial partners spread out to other >> ventures. Bob opened two of his own comics stores, >> eventually moving to Ohio to write a book about the >> commerce of comics. John Barrett opened several >> stores, then also moved East. He regularly attended major >> comic conventions, selling collectible comics. Bud Plant >> (1952-) focused on his first love and now operates >> an international mail-order business of cartoon art >> and illustrated books. <<< >> >> One of the reasons I began my history writings about the origins of the >> direct sales market and other business concepts in the comics field was >> too much disinformation is bandied about like "fact". Such as the above >> description on the "Bud Plant" page in THE UNDERGROUND FAMILY ALBUM >> published by Malcolm White using Clay Geerdes photos. >> >> For starters, I never have lived in Ohio. I opened my own chain of >> comics stores which imploded due to a natural flooding disaster same week >> end as Eclipse Comics was wiped out in Feb 1986. 9 county Federal >> Disaster Area. Best of Two Worlds warehouse with a million comic books >> in it wiped out was a mere 41 miles away. I also opened far more than 2 >> stores in California. Last time I counted it was more than a dozen. >> >> The above description has John B and myself almost reversed - but the >> person who wrote the above never talked with John B or myself. >> >> John opened just two stores, the Santa Rosa store which had been a Best >> of Two Worlds operation - and his albatross in Fairfax which became his >> final Bay Area undoing. >> >> Here with, for your edification, is the origin of Comics & Comix: >> >> >Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine >writing >> >Sent: 3/14/20 8:23 AM >> >Received: 3/14/01 9:12 PM >> >From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com >> >To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com >> > >> >John died late this afternoon. Jim Buser, who goes back to 1965 with John >> >and I, says that he died peacefully. At least he didn't suffer any >longer. >> > >> >John was a good friend, always ready to help others. And although he >> >experienced financial problems in the past few years, he always did his >best >> >to make good. I'll miss him a lot. >> > >> >Bud Plant >> >> Bud >> >> I understand - even though things got messed up back there in 1974 what >> with the dope bust we were involved in Pennsylvania, Phil Seuling >> providing bail money - and the $$$ & old comics which went missing which >> Campbell confessed to 20 years later to you, John B and Dick Swan (as >> part of his 12 step program for cocaine abuse), then when John & I sat >> down at the Heidelburg Cafe on Telegraph to found the first comics >> retailer association to end air freight - I always considered him - you - >> the rest of the San Jose gang as friends. >> >> One thing - I read the missive you posted to comicbookfanzines list - >> and I will not post anything there now as the timing is not correct - >> but, just between you and me, it still hurts to be "written out" of C&C >> history even now. >> >> I was there *before* Day One for Comics & Comix to open - and always have >> -and always will - considered myself a "founder" of C&C along with John >> and you. I poured my heart & soul into the operation while you were in >> San Jose completing college. >> >> Before 1972 was out, I became an equal partner when John came to owe you >> three grand, you were ready to pull the plug which would have sunk the >> operation in its infancy - and your exact words were to John, "I am not >> going to throw any more good money after bad" and were going to walk >> away. >> >> I took over that debt, took on that damn janitor 2nd job working nights >> to pay that off after working full days in the Berkeley store with that >> same company Mike worked for - or was it Fred, I no longer remember. >> >> Anyway, it was so long ago - it no longer matters. >> >> John is gone - and may he rest in peace. >> I'll miss him a lot also. >> >> bob >> ************************************* >> Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine >> writing >> Sent: 3/16/20 8:23 PM >> Received: 3/15/01 1:04 PM >> From: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com >> To: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com >> >> I'm not writing you out of anything. The bottom line is that this is about >> John. I mentioned Buser and Swan only in passing, as they were close >> friends >> of John since the early 1960s and were traveled to cons together and were >> partners previously >> >> If it was not for John, there would have never been a C&C and that is my >> point here. He wanted to be a partner with me, so we came up with the >> store >> idea. Maybe it was my idea, maybe his. But it was not yours and you were >> not >> there for that first discussion and you were not walking the streets in >> Berkeley when John and I found a location (and John got teargassed). The >> sole reason you ended up there at the very beginning was because your car >> broke down as you were going back home. I remember that we asked you to >> join >> us, but you were going back to college. >> >> The store would have opened without you. That does not take away from all >> you did for it in the early days. Okay? >> >> You were instrumental and very important in the early days, but I also >> don't >> mention Scott Maple or ANYONE else. This, again, is about John and I don't >> believe including you or John Campbell or anyone else adds to it. I >> mentioned there were other partners. Let's give John the credit he >> deserves >> here and not obscure it with unnessary detail. >> >> If you want to debate this further, as a friend, please save it for >> another >> time. I'm really not in the mood right now. >> >> Thanks >> Best, >> >> Bud >> ************************* >> >> Subject: Re: John Barrett (PRIVATE) (Re: [cbzines] Re: fanzine >> writing >> Sent: 3/15/01 1:28 PM >> To: Bud Plant, bud@budplant.com >> >> Bud >> >> I fully understand this was about John, and as a friend, and in memory of >> John, I was going to post stuff about him also, from my perspective, but >> my car breaking down was not the reason at all in the beginning I ended >> up in San Jose, then working in Berkeley helping to set up that first >> store. The car engine blow up came later - well after Labor Day. >> >> Remember, the San Diego comicon had ended mid August - you talked me into >> coming up to SanJose to hang for a bit (approx two weeks), then going >> back down to Los Angeles for the World SF Con at the airport. >> >> I stayed at John & Karen's house (inside on the grounds of a golf course >> ?) sleeping on their couch the entire time. I believe John's dad worked >> at that gold course? >> >> Your mail order business was still at John's house there - that first >> room as one came in the front door. The first day we got up to San Jose >> we went to John's house. He was all hot to get back into the comics >> business - not wanting to work at the grocery store any more. >> >> He wanted to "buy in" to your mail order trip, you didn't want to go that >> path. His rationale was two people could make twice as much as one doing >> the mail order. >> >> i remember distinctly you and me having involved discussion away from >> John about what you should do with this conundrum - as you weren't sure >> at the time (August 1972) whether it would support you alone yet, much >> less John AND Karen plus you. >> >> the store concept in Berkeley was a secondary compromise since you owed >> him a couple grand for his percentage of the profit from what he sold >> while you were gone on the comicon circuit. So, the initial funding was >> what you owed John plus you kicked in an equal amount. >> >> When I went up with you and John to that 2512 Telegraph Ave, the store >> front was still very empty - and I was there when the negotiations had >> that first store front split into two as the lease was signed - as "we" >> were only going to take the left half of it. >> >> Indeed, the initial set up was inside all of the space until Ellsworth >> and Rosenberg (landlords) found someone to rent the right hand side. I >> remember us meeting with Al Davoron for him to paint that lightening bolt >> design behind the cash register. the first day of setting up we sold as >> the very first item sold a Creepy #1 for $3. >> >> You and John tried like the dickens to get me to stay - but I felt >> obligation to my parents to get my college degree, so I headed out with >> just 3 days to make late registration, you gave me some white crosses to >> stay awake, I picked up that hitch hiker at the rest stop up on the bluff >> outside Reno who was the one who drove too fast causing that 1965 Impala >> engine to explode. >> >> I was initially going to sit out that one semester - and felt I might as >> well do it in California - and that is when we rented Harmony lane enxt >> to those biker-types. >> >> I honestly am not trying to start any type of fight - all this this was >> 30 years ago - and I am just as saddened by John's untimely demise as >> you. I am getting a slow start today. >> >> peace >> bob >> >> **************** >> >> Be that as it may, I first met "the San Jose gang", at the 1969 Houston >> comics show Roy Bonario, Marc Schooley, & crew used to host. In 1970, >> 1971 and again in1972 we ran into each other so much, we began caravaning >> together, splitting motel rooms to save $$$ to buymore comics. >> >> It was pressure from you that i should "escape" Nebraska which brought >> me to San Jose in August 1972 right after the San Diego comicon. >> >> I would say we collectively thought up the "store within a store" concept >> as we had all that lumber from having built the art display area for the >> "x" rated art show at the Berkeley con in 1973 - plus we had scored the >> Tom Reilly "San Francisco" pedigree collection - and what with the >> ensuing international publicity on UPI and AP for my having sold the >> first comic book to break the $2000 barrier, the phones were "hot" with >> people wanting to sell us old comic books. i did run the old comics >> section, yes. John B ran the new comics side of things. >> >> I left due to missing $$$ and cash - John B thought I did it. My >> feelings at the time were "You (C&C) needs me more than I need you" - >> plus I knew I was innocent. Jon Campbell confessed to you, John B, and >> Dick Swan 20 years later. >> >> i went back to college, sold out for $12K payable at $100 a week or so - >> had incredible fights sometimes to collect, BTW, which you probably got a >> one sided report on at the time - and did not re-enter the comic book >> store business for a year and a half later in late 1976 when I opened a >> small store at in the Haight Ashbury. >> >> At the time, you would not wholesale into the Bay Area the material you & >> Phil had exclusives on. EVERY store to the Bay Area had to buy from Phil >> and have it reshipped from New York City This was because C&C talked you >> into not wholesaling in the Bay Area so C&C could maintain a competitive >> advantage. >> >> I finally got so pissed off at perceived injustices that when the >> Berkeley C&C moved up the street in 1977, I went to our old land lords, >> Ellsworth & Rosenburg, and promptly rented 2512 Telegraph Ave - focusing >> on out of print material at first as C&C never truly recovered its old >> comics stature after my departure. >> >> The price wars are legend to those you benefited from them. The longest >> one was below cost for over 4 months as we tried to knock each other off >> the street. Air Freight entered the picture from Russ Ernst (Glenwood, >> Sparta). >> >> Finally, John B and I sat down for a meeting and then called on all other >> comics dealers in the Bay Area to a huge meeting out by the Oakland Air >> Port where everybody decided not to feed the airlines any more except Bob >> Sidebottom. That was the early 80s. >> >> In the final analysis, the first C&C outlet, The Berkeley Comic Art Shop, >> was John's initial idea as a 2nd best scenerio when you would not let him >> buy into the mail order aspect. I still remember the 3 of us going to >> Berkeley together before the lease was signed & being present for the >> lease negotiations. Once the store was up, John & I ran it. John knew >> almost nothing about the then current state of of comic book dealing as >> he had been "out" of it for a couple years after Comic World closed up. >> >> Was I an official partner who signed that first lease in August 1972? >> No. >> >> However, except for the few days I headed back to the University of >> Nebraska-Lincoln & that car engine, I was very much an active participant >> in building the store before it opened and every day - seven days a week >> from August 1972 thru the Berkeley Comicon April 1973 - for a very long >> time - working a 2nd job to pay off the money John owed you - and that >> happened in 1972 as well. >> >> I was not "dismayed" at the way you remember history, "disappointed" is >> more the word for it. probably no one in the world cares about the fine >> C&C details, but you, me, - and John. >> >> best >> Robert Beerbohm, >> proud to have known John Barrett >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From jgjensen@uniontel.net Wed Mar 28 09:09:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jgjensen@uniontel.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 17:09:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 95980 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 17:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 17:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.wctc.net) (209.94.160.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 18:10:32 -0000 Received: from preferred-cust (union-mod143.uniontel.net [209.94.180.153]) by mail.wctc.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2SHDfr16114 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:13:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <018c01c0b7a2$54e73f40$02000003@preferred-cust> To: Subject: Re: [cbzines] The George Barr Folio Collaboration Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:15:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Jonathan G Jensen" Hi Rob, Your name sound familiar to me from some fan project or other it has been a long time. I have a copy of my fanzine from !969 to trade for your zine. Mine is called Cloak and Daggar Barbarella cover, strips, text stories articles etc. Wanna trade? Boy just like old times hey? Sent a copy to Steve Ogen for some of his zines really fun stuff. Thanks let me know Jonathan Jensen -----Original Message----- From: Rob Gustaveson To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 2:51 AM Subject: [cbzines] The George Barr Folio Collaboration >Eight Plates. > >Here is the ebay ad for it: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1127328965 > >(cut and paste). > >I also have 1971 Graphic Illusion Fanzine offered on Ebay off and on-- >it sells occasionally for $35.00 there. I'd be willing to trade it >and $10. for the Art of Frank Frazetta Book 3 or? > >Let me know. Thanks. Rob > >Also with the folio I include a bit of fandom history from my >perspective. Sample: (You'll laugh--1st draft): >http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/addendumBarr2.htm >Later drafts will make you cry. > >And I retyped the Barr write up of each plate (fancier typefont) The >folio remains unchanged. I am sold out of Graphic Illusion #1 (1971 >edition--completely)! > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Mar 28 10:50:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 18:50:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 58578 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 18:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 18:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 18:42:13 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id r.55.1330dece (4218) for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:41:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <55.1330dece.27f38a74@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:41:56 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/01 12:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com writes: > Is there one 1960's Kirby book where you liked Vince Colleta's > inking?. I think I liked his work. Colleta's inking was okay and only suffers when compared to his inks on Kirby compared with Chic Stone, Dick Ayres, Frank Giacoia and Joe Sinnott. But Colleta's work looks terrific compared to what George Bell did to Kirby. I was just looking at JIM #101 and that's really awful. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mvhaas@elpaso.net Wed Mar 28 16:51:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 29 Mar 2001 00:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 310 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 00:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2001 00:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 00:51:00 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server.elpaso.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2T0owf18137 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:50:58 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <985786175.309.85338.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <985786175.309.85338.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:51:24 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: What is a fanzine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas Rob Gustaveson wrote: >I definately define Witzend to be a fanzine but not Locus. I'd say >anything mass produced should not be considered a fanzine. To confuse things further, Locus started in the 60's as a mimeographed newszine, definitely a science fiction fanzine. So Locus could be a publication that once was a fanzine, but isn't one now. (Though it's probably as much a fanzine now as Comics Buyer's Guide is...) best -- Merlin Haas From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Mar 28 17:00:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 29 Mar 2001 01:00:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 63716 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 01:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2001 01:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 02:01:30 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.75.124c80d6 (4221) for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:00:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <75.124c80d6.27f3e323@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:00:19 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: What is a fanzine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/01 7:58:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mvhaas@elpaso.net writes: > . > > To confuse things further, Locus started in the 60's as a > mimeographed newszine, definitely a science fiction fanzine. So > Locus could be a publication that once was a fanzine, but isn't one > now. (Though it's probably as much a fanzine now as Comics Buyer's > Guide is...) > > and I recall my surprise when I saw the new Locus! (i had been a subscriber in the 1970s, and it was still mimeographed then). Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bbush@mmcable.com Wed Mar 28 22:29:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bbush@mmcable.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 29 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 73233 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.mmcable.com) (24.94.163.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 06:29:01 -0000 Received: from pumpkin.mmcable.com ([24.27.133.165]) by mail2.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:26:05 -0600 Message-ID: <00e801c0b818$f9c2e840$a5851b18@mmcable.com> Reply-To: "b bush" To: References: <985786175.309.85338.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Great new Fanzine reference guide.... Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:19:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Return-Path: bbush@mmcable.com From: "b bush" Bart here: Today I received the new MONSTER MAGAZINE AND FANZINE PRICE GUIDE, and was blown away at the coverage this book gave to the fanzine aspect of Monster magazines. Over 1,000 (yes that's right) horror/monster fanzines with the front covers pictured! The editor and years published are also given. Over 66 pages are devoted just to fanzines! Plus a large section on foreign editions as well! And of course all the covers and prices to generally every monster mag ever published. Absolutely wonderful! $40, in a huge softcover edition, but well worth it if you're a old monster fan like me! I started buying Famous Monsters with #11 ( Gorgo cover) and never stopped. Someone should tackle a price guide(or reference guide) to Comic Magazines and Fanzines.. From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Thu Mar 29 08:33:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 29 Mar 2001 16:33:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16915 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 16:32:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2001 16:32:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 16:32:20 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.247.216]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010329163218.KJVS21649.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl> for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0b86d$c17b4040$d8f7490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: References: <985871159.257.19786.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 54 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:31:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Hi Jonathan, Yes, I am the Anthony Smith that sold you the Nast original. I'm still selling lots of original art, comic related ephemera, fanzines, movie material, et al ad infinitum - but mostly on eBay under the name smithworldorder. I usually have a few auctions up at all times, so give a look. If you, or anyone else, would like to receive my print and email lists just send me your addresses at a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net and I will add you to my list. My apologies for this off topic message and the blatant commercial appeal... Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:05 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 54 > From buckyruckus@hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 08:46:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: buckyruckus@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 29 Mar 2001 16:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 61785 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 16:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2001 16:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 16:44:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2001 16:44:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:44:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Replying To Digest Messages Message-ID: <99vopc+vabd@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 317 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.146.58.32 From: buckyruckus@hotmail.com Several recent digests have been all but unreadable, as people sometimes forget they're responding to a digest. Said listers then proceed to quote the whole, blamed, foregoing digest. =/ Everybody, please...in the interest of eyesight, don't hit the "reply" button to respond to a post on a digest. Thanks. :) From customego@yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 19:14:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 03:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 75700 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 03:14:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 03:14:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 03:14:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2001 03:14:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:14:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pleased to be here. Message-ID: <9a0tm0+j0m5@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1299 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.238 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi Fanzine Fanatics, I just found this group today and was very pleased to see others=20 share my interest in those great fanzines. My main interest though is=20 ama-heroes and I am currently compiling a database of as many as I=20 can find. I am up to about 200 right now and most were taken from=20 Fandom Presents, which I recently won on ebay. I would appreciate any=20 help, especially pictures of any ama-heroes from the 60's =96 70's, or=20 even newer than that if they aren't of the "modern" mold of super- heroes. I am always looking to trade photocopies of fanzines for=20 other fanzines, and like mentioned on this group before, I can put=20 them on CD for those interested. I, along with my good friend Richard Boucher, have a website=20 called "The Good Guys of the Golden Age". Our quest there is to=20 profile every costumed character from the late 30's to 1960. Our=20 Master Alpha List (MAL), has over 1100 mysterymen and women from that=20 era. We also have reprint CDs of Golden Age material that I would=20 also trade for info on ama-heroes. You can check us out at=20 http://goldenage.cjb.net. Lastly, I also have a club at Yahoo called "Comic Fandom 60's-70's".=20 If anyone is interested in joining, you can e-mail me at=20 toys4u@yahoo.com. I look forward to being apart of this group. Cheers, Darrin From CArchivist@aol.com Fri Mar 30 03:00:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 11:00:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 91194 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 11:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 11:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r19.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.73) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 11:00:57 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.e.aeb907d (3733) for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:00:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:00:52 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Pleased to be here. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com In a message dated 03/29/2001 10:16:35 PM, customego@yahoo.com writes: << I, along with my good friend Richard Boucher, have a website called "The Good Guys of the Golden Age". Our quest there is to profile every costumed character from the late 30's to 1960. Our Master Alpha List (MAL), has over 1100 mysterymen and women from that era. We also have reprint CDs of Golden Age material that I would also trade for info on ama-heroes. You can check us out at http://goldenage.cjb.net. >> A couple of places you can check for info (on comics themselves, not fanzines) includes some old fanzines: Kletner, Howard Golden Age Comic Books Index 1935-1955: The Revised Edition Bails, Jerry The Collector's Guide, The First Heroic Age And the web site listed in my footer below! My best -Ray Bottorff Jr ******************************************************* The Grand Comic-Book Database Project is an ongoing, fan-based, non-commercial, international effort to index, catalog, preserve, and exchange history and knowledge of every comic book ever made all over the world! It's for those whom love comics of all types, new or old or from anywhere and everywhere in the world! Visit us at http://www.comics.org/ and learn more about it! Make sure to sign up for our Chat reflectors! Some of the greatest historians, fans, collectors, scholars and dealers already have done so and they are sharing their knowledge, so why not you? From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Fri Mar 30 12:16:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 20:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15490 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 20:16:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 20:16:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 20:16:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.118] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Mar 2001 20:16:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:16:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Message-ID: <9a2pj4+4h1o@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3A8BB2ED.18972FE7@ulster.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 948 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.35.29 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Jeff how is life? Haven't seen you since I bought a sketch from you when I was a kid and George Barr inked it. How much for a sketch now? I love your work and your website! Yesterday's Lily is the one book I need to feel my collection is semi complete. I've shared your posters with many people over the years. What are you up to? Re: Colletta--I want to dig out an old Thor to see if I liked his style. But I'm too lazy to do so at the moment. I first met you and Bode' at Saint Louis SF world con. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jeffrey Jones wrote: > Dave, > > Yes, that would be me. > > Jeffrey > www.jeffreyjones.com > _________________________________ > > Dave Rawlins wrote: > > > Jeffery: > > Anyhow, I just wanted to ask if you're same the Jeff Jones who drew > > Idyl for National Lampoon? BTW: I loved the strip. > > Best, > > Dave Rawlins > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Mar 30 12:41:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 20:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4393 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 20:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 20:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 20:41:35 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07438 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:41:23 -0600 Received: from [208.136.132.171] (ppp30.netimaging.com [208.136.132.171]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07352 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:41:21 -0600 Message-Id: <200103302041.OAA07352@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Date: Fri, 30 Mar 01 14:39:22 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm >Subject: [cbzines] Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... >From: Rob Gustaveson, gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com > >Re: Colletta--I want to dig out an old Thor to see if I liked his=20 >style. But I'm too lazy to do so at the moment. I first met you and=20 >Bode' at Saint Louis SF world con. That little side room at the StL SF World Con where Bode & Larry Todd had t= heir art show was intense at the time. I remember Vaughn was still in very= short hair and green army fatigues robert beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros plus a brand new 8 page supplement ******************************************** Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ******************************************** Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips=20 http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few=20 who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From comicplace@earthlink.net Sun Apr 01 09:47:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: comicplace@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_0_1); 1 Apr 2001 16:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 80920 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2001 16:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2001 16:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2001 16:47:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: comicplace@earthlink.net Received: from [10.1.2.133] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2001 16:47:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:47:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comic Collection found. Message-ID: <9a7m2r+dvcm@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3227 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 38.27.192.207 From: comicplace@earthlink.net From an estate sale. Looking to liquidate the following collection. Asking $250 but will accept reasonable offers for all or some. Hope you find something you need. Amazing Adventures #17 - VF Amazing Spider-Man #360 - VF/NM Azrael/Ash #1 - NM Aztek the Ultimate Man #1 - NM Black Panther (Marvel Knights) #4, 5 - both NM Boy Detective (Avon) #3 - VG Campus Romances #1(Avon) - VG/FN Captain Steve Savage (Avon) #5 - GD Claus #2 - VF/NM Clive Barker's Hellraiser Book 1 - VF/NM Cyberforce #1 - NM Dark Claw Adventures #1 - NM DC Special Series #1 - VF Deathmate Black (1st Gen 13) - NM Detective Comics #371 - FN/VF Eternals #3, 4, 5, 8, 10 and Annual #1 - all VF/NM Frontier Romances (Avon) #2 - VG/FN Geisha #4 - NM Giant Size Super Villain Team-Up #1, 2 - both FN/VF Gigantic Strange Adventures #226, 228 - both FN/VF Hearthrobs #2 - NM House of Secrets (DC/Vertigo) #1, 2, 3, 4 - all NM Incredible Hulk #376 - VF Iron Man Vol. 3, #10 - NM Jesse James (Avon) #26 - FNLois Lane #103 - VG Journey Into Mystery with Thor #119 - GD- Kit Carson (Avon) #8 - FN Little Jack Frost (Avon) #1 - FN/VF Lois Lane #78 - VG Lois Lane #82 (Neal Adams cvr) - VG/FN Lois Lane #83 (Neal Adams cvr) - VG/FN Lois Lane #84 (Neal Adams cvr) - VG/FN Lois Lane #124 - VG/FN Lois Lane #125 - FN Lois Lane #129 - FN Lois Lane #129 - VG/FN Lois Lane #133 - VG/FN Lois Lane #133 - FN/VF Lois Lane #135 - FN/VF Lois Lane #135 - VG Lois Lane #137 - FN/VF Marvel Spotlight (last Ghost Rider) #11 - VF Marvel Tales #14 - VF Marvel Triple Action #3 - VF Metal Men #32 - VG Mister Miracle (Kirby) #10 - FN/VF Ms. Mystic Vol. 1, #2 (Continuity) - VF/NM Ms. Mystic #1, 2 (Pacific) - both VF New Gods (Kirby) #10, 11 - both FN/VF Ninjack #1, 2, 3, 4 (Quesada) - all VF/NM Nocturnals: Witching Hour - NM Our Fighting Forces #138 - FN Our Fighting Forces #145 - FN/VF Perg #5 (First Hellina) - NM Pete the P.O.'d Postal Worker #5 - NM Phantom Stranger #22, 23 - both FN/VF PITT #1, 2, 3, 4 - all NM Prometheus #1 - NM Shatter #1 - NM Showcase #66 - VG Son of Tomahawk #139, 140 - both FN/VF Speed Racer #1 - VF/NM Spider-Man Chapter One #2 - VF/NM Spirit New Adventures #2, 4, 5 - all NM Strange Adventures #155 - VG/FN Super Powers (Kirby) #5 - VF/NM Tales to Astonish Vol. 3, #1 - NM Terminal City #1-9 all NM The System #1, 2, 3 - all NM Uncanny X-Men #249, 252, 254, 255, 260, 262, 263, 265, 270 (2nd printing), 273, 275, 276, 277, 279, 280, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294 (w/card), 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 323, 324, 326, 327, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336 - ALL VF/NM U.S. Paratroops Attack on Suchon Pass (Avon) #3 - FN U.S. Paratroops Destruction at Kumjom (Avon) #5 - GD Weird Fantasy (reprint) #21 - NM Weird War Tales #25 - VG/FN Weird Worlds #3 - VG/FN Weird Worlds #4 - VG Weird Worlds #5 - VG Wetworks #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 - all VF/NM Wild Bill Hickok (Avon) #5 - FN/VF Wild Bill HIckok (Avon) #23 - GD/VG WildC.A.T.S. Special #1 - NM Wildcats #3 (DC/WS) - NM Witching Hour #23 - VF With the U.S. Paratroops Behind Enemy Lines (Avon) #1 - PR World's Finest #222 - VF/NM Worlds Unknown #3 - FN/VF From ditko37@home.com Wed Apr 04 13:08:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 4 Apr 2001 20:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 31829 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2001 20:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2001 20:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Apr 2001 20:08:27 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010404200817.OAYO10014.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:08:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACB7EBE.B8BEC12E@home.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:06:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ditko Fanzine Queries References: <002301c0b2fb$9258c340$1204493f@roybetts> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell O.K. everyone, I am a desperate may and only YOU can help me. I'm trying to determine what Ditko content may be in the following fanzines... 1. Comic Artist 6, 1969 2. Differo 2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell 3. Drift 1, 1969 by Campbell 4. Junk 1, 1969 What year was REALM #3 (196?) published featuring head-shots illo. of Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and The Question (1 page), published by A. Edward Romero. What did Ditko do in COMIC READER #35 (Mar '65) What did Ditko do in COMIC READER #42 (Oct '65) DID Ditko do ANYTHING in COMIC CRUSADER #12 (1972)? This has been part of a discussion on the GCD List, but I'm looking to identify the original source of these three MR. A. illos... The first one, "THE POLLUTERS" (not to be confused with MR. A. VS THE POLLUTERS), is reprinted on Page 19 on THE DITKO COLLECTION #1. It is copyright 1972. Do you know where it was originally published? The second is c1968 and reprinted on the bottom right of Page 19 of THE DITKO COLLECTION #1. Any ideas on where it was originally published? The third is c1968, a variation of the spot in Eon 3; reprinted in THE DITKO COLLECTION - Page 20, top right. Where was this first published? Also, where was Pg.42 of THE DITKO COLLECTION original published? It is a Mr. A. pin-up copyrighted 1969. Same for the 8 page story in THE DITKO COLLECTION #2, which starts on Pg.39, labelled "H Series : The Screamer" (8 pages). Any help y'all could give would be most appreciated. Thanks. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Apr 04 17:40:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 5 Apr 2001 00:40:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 92951 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 00:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2001 00:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 00:40:00 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20732 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:39:58 -0500 Received: from [208.136.132.175] (ppp34.netimaging.com [208.136.132.175]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA20647 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:39:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200104050039.TAA20647@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ditko Fanzine Queries Date: Wed, 4 Apr 01 19:38:37 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm > Any help y'all could give would be most appreciated. Thanks. :) > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. Blake I have been looking around my stuff for my zine FANZATION #3 (1969) with its Ditko letter about creativity which Wertham quoted from in THE WORLD OF FANZINES - I will get it to you & Robin Snyder before too long promise bob beerbohm From mgilbert@efn.org Thu Apr 05 07:04:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 5 Apr 2001 14:04:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 58379 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 14:04:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2001 14:04:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (206.163.176.10) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 14:04:38 -0000 Received: from [206.163.181.169] (56k-041.efn.org [206.163.181.169]) by clavin.efn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f35E4bP21243; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 07:02:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 58 To: , Bill Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <986467473.143.27039.l10@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: "Michael T. Gilbert" > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:06:22 -0400 > From: Blake Bell > Subject: Ditko Fanzine Queries > > > O.K. everyone, I am a desperate may and only YOU can help me. > I'm trying to determine what Ditko content may be in the following fanzines... > Blake: I've got a pretty obscure fanzine with a Ditko Spiderman pin up. It's in Crusader #1, Winter 1964-1965 and one of the editors was Vince's son, Frank Colletta. The pic was signed Vince Colletta, but it's clearly Ditko...thought possibly inked by Vince Colletta. It's a cute gag (signed by Stan Lee) with Spidey jumping away from a real spider in horror and disgust. Dunno if it appeared elsewhere, but it's cute. Best wishes, Michael T. From ditko37@home.com Thu Apr 05 23:49:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 6 Apr 2001 06:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15800 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 06:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Apr 2001 06:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 06:49:52 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.166.144]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBCYYY00.IBU for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:49:46 -0600 Message-ID: <3ACD662E.2E514CB9@home.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 02:46:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Trolling For Fanzines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Does anyone have WHIZZARD #13, published by Marty Klug, from 1980? It has a Ditko article by Kenn Thomas called ""Ditko's New Dimension: A survey of his lastest work" that I would like to read. Or THE FUNNY PAPERS #2, March, 1975 with a review by Ron Barlow of Ditko's "Mr. A and the Avenging World"? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Fri Apr 06 00:04:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 6 Apr 2001 07:04:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 45924 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 07:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2001 07:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 07:04:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ditko37@home.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2001 07:04:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:04:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ditko Fanzine Queries Message-ID: <9ajpqi+l7v0@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3ACB7EBE.B8BEC12E@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2889 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.197.166.144 From: "Blake Bell" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > What year was REALM #3 (196?) published featuring head-shots > illo. of Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and The Question (1 page), > published by A. Edward Romero. Thanks to the lovely Merlin Haas, I now have scans of Ditko's work in REALM #3, the Ditko COVER, featuring CAPTAIN ATOM, to THE COMIC READER #36 and Ditko's SPIDER-MAN/DR. STRANGE illo. from THE COMIC READER #42 and Ditko's letter from that issue to the editor. #42 seems to be the first off-set issue. Does that mean it is guaranteed the Ditko drawing for the cover of #36 was traced on? Derrill Rotherwich looks like the editor's name. He dedicates Issue #42 to STEVE DITKO and thanks Kent Russell for giving him the Ditko artwork for the issue. Who is Kent Russell? > DID Ditko do ANYTHING in COMIC CRUSADER #12 (1972)? The mystery is solved! It is COMIC CRUSADER #17 which houses "H Series : The Screamer", the 8-page wonder reprinted in THE DITKO COLLECTION #2. > O.K. everyone, I am a desperate may and only YOU can help me. > I'm trying to determine what Ditko content may be in the following fanzines... > > 1. Comic Artist 6, 1969 > 2. Differo 2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell > 3. Drift 1, 1969 by Campbell > 4. Junk 1, 1969 Geez, you mean NO ONE has ANY information on the above fanzines? > This has been part of a discussion on the GCD List, but I'm > looking to identify the original source of these three MR. A. > illos... > The first one, "THE POLLUTERS" (not to be confused with MR. A. > VS THE POLLUTERS), is reprinted on Page 19 on THE DITKO COLLECTION > #1. It is copyright 1972. Do you know where it was originally > published? > The second is c1968 and reprinted on the bottom right of Page 19 > of THE DITKO COLLECTION #1. Any ideas on where it was originally > published? > The third is c1968, a variation of the spot in Eon 3; reprinted > in THE DITKO COLLECTION - Page 20, top right. Where was this first > published? > Also, where was Pg.42 of THE DITKO COLLECTION original published? > It is a Mr. A. pin-up copyrighted 1969. Now, I know some of you Ditko Krazies have the DITKO COLLECTION, so please do take a moment to dig them out and help me out here. Thanks again, Merlin and Nick Caputo for all your help. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Apr 06 04:32:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 6 Apr 2001 11:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 54218 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 11:32:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2001 11:32:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 12:33:07 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.c9.eb8b842 (16936) for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:31:58 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Ditko Fanzine Queries To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 From: srowecanoe@aol.com In a message dated 04/06/2001 3:07:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: << 1. Comic Artist 6, 1969 > 2. Differo 2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell > 3. Drift 1, 1969 by Campbell > 4. Junk 1, 1969 Geez, you mean NO ONE has ANY information on the above fanzines? >> Hmm, I thought the Comic Artist only went up to 2 or 3 issues... I know they had planned more, don't think they came out though Steven Rowe From ditko37@home.com Fri Apr 06 16:24:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 6 Apr 2001 23:24:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 86717 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 23:24:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2001 23:24:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 23:24:10 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.148.140.164]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBE90300.326 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:24:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3ACE4DD6.680EB3AE@home.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:14:30 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine illos., so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... 1) Check out the Charlton heroes illo. for REALM #3 (Nov '70)... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Realm3.jpg 2) Ditko's ditto CAPTAIN ATOM cover to COMIC READER #36 (Apr '65)... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader36.jpg 3) Ditko's half1/4-page Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. for C.R. #42... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader42.jpg SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Fri Apr 06 17:38:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 7 Apr 2001 00:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 33424 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 00:38:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Apr 2001 00:38:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 00:38:12 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.ac.130d5c43 (4571) for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:38:05 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rare DITKO fanzine illos. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/6/01 7:25:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine illos., > so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... > - Blake, Those are a joy to behold!!! :o) --steve "never got a TCR before number 78" cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From magilla445@aol.com Fri Apr 06 18:15:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 7 Apr 2001 01:15:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2486 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 01:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2001 01:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 01:15:04 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.c4.1251b725 (25314) for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:14:45 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rare DITKO fanzine illos. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 127 From: magilla445@aol.com In a message dated 4/6/01 6:25:20 PM Central Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: << 3) Ditko's half1/4-page Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. for C.R. #42... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader42.jpg >> This is very interesting. About 1977 when I was editing and publishing WE for the old WSA program, Harry Hopkins bought the original to this art. Knowing Harry, I would imagine he still has it. Harry sent a nice stat of the art and suggested I use it as a cover, which I did. I didn't know that it had been published previously. At the time I wondered what the history was behind the art. Now, at last, I know:) Ron Frantz From caputon66@yahoo.com Fri Apr 06 18:22:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 7 Apr 2001 01:22:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 30519 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 01:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2001 01:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 01:22:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caputon66@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2001 01:22:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:22:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. Message-ID: <9alq4s+5vdo@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3ACE4DD6.680EB3AE@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 564 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.12.102.182 From: caputon66@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine illos., > so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... > > 1) Check out the Charlton heroes illo. for REALM #3 (Nov '70)... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Realm3.jpg > Thanks Blake, I thought I had that issue but was thinking of a Ditko Charlton illo in another fanzine. I don't have that issue and I have never seen that illo before! Another one to add to my list. Nick Caputo From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Sat Apr 07 08:33:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 7 Apr 2001 15:33:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 42048 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 15:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2001 15:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 15:33:16 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.247.163]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010407153314.YODC21907.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl> for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:33:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c0bf78$02c94720$a3f7490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: References: <986636310.143.49290.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 60 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:32:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Hey Ron, Actually that piece of art is framed and hanging in the bathroom of a friend of mine. I've tried for about 15 years to talk him out of it without luck. Anthony Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:38 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 60 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 5 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: Ditko Fanzine Queries > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > 2. Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > From: Blake Bell > 3. Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > 4. Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > From: magilla445@aol.com > 5. Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > From: caputon66@yahoo.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:31:58 EDT > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > Subject: Re: Re: Ditko Fanzine Queries > > In a message dated 04/06/2001 3:07:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > ditko37@home.com writes: > > << 1. Comic Artist 6, 1969 > > 2. Differo 2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell > > 3. Drift 1, 1969 by Campbell > > 4. Junk 1, 1969 > > Geez, you mean NO ONE has ANY information on the above fanzines? >> > > Hmm, I thought the Comic Artist only went up to 2 or 3 issues... > I know they had planned more, don't think they came out though > > Steven Rowe > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:14:30 -0400 > From: Blake Bell > Subject: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > > > Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine illos., > so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... > > 1) Check out the Charlton heroes illo. for REALM #3 (Nov '70)... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Realm3.jpg > > 2) Ditko's ditto CAPTAIN ATOM cover to COMIC READER #36 (Apr '65)... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader36.jpg > > 3) Ditko's half1/4-page Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. for C.R. #42... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader42.jpg > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:38:05 EDT > From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM > Subject: Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > > In a message dated 4/6/01 7:25:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com > writes: > > > > Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine illos., > > so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... > > - > > Blake, > Those are a joy to behold!!! > :o) > --steve "never got a TCR before number 78" cohen > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:14:45 EDT > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > > In a message dated 4/6/01 6:25:20 PM Central Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com > writes: > > << 3) Ditko's half1/4-page Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. for C.R. #42... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ComicReader42.jpg >> > > This is very interesting. About 1977 when I was editing and publishing WE > for the old WSA program, Harry Hopkins bought the original to this art. > Knowing Harry, I would imagine he still has it. Harry sent a nice stat of > the art and suggested I use it as a cover, which I did. I didn't know that > it had been published previously. At the time I wondered what the history > was behind the art. Now, at last, I know:) > > Ron Frantz > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:22:36 -0000 > From: caputon66@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Rare DITKO fanzine illos. > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > > > Some people had asked me to scan in some rare Ditko fanzine > illos., > > so here they are, thanks to Merlin Haas for providing same... > > > > 1) Check out the Charlton heroes illo. for REALM #3 (Nov '70)... > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Realm3.jpg > > > Thanks Blake, > > I thought I had that issue but was thinking of a Ditko Charlton illo > in another fanzine. I don't have that issue and I have never seen > that illo before! Another one to add to my list. > > Nick Caputo > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From ogden@csd.com Sun Apr 08 14:11:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 8 Apr 2001 21:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18652 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2001 21:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2001 21:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 21:11:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.109] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2001 21:11:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:11:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzine List updated Message-ID: <9aqk6k+o8nj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 953 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.251.89 From: "Steve Ogden" Hello everyone, I have just updated the Fanzine List kept in the FILES section. It is in two files: FANZINE LIST A-F and FANZINE LIST G-Z. It was built using an older version of Excel (Version 5.0a). I also uploaded a WORD Document called FANZINE that is a help file of sorts for the Fanzine List. I hope everyone enjoys it. There is still a TON of work to do on it, so consider it a work in progress. ANY help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to thank Jon Jensen and Bill Schelly for their help - Thanks! My next effort will be to go back through John McGeehan's House Of Info and double check the data I gathered a long time ago, then I'll be going through old issues of RBCC and my own personal collection of fanzines. And I'm always looking at eBay (searching on "fanzine" AND "fanzines"). Any help or suggestions? Let me know. And if someone can't open the files, let me know. Be seeing you - Steve From bwrcreeper@hotmail.com Sun Apr 08 18:05:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bwrcreeper@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 01:05:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 67979 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 01:05:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 01:05:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.43) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 01:05:02 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:58:12 -0700 Received: from 149.159.42.174 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:58:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.159.42.174] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Trolling For Fanzines Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 04:58:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2001 09:58:12.0071 (UTC) FILETIME=[17336770:01C0BE80] From: "Mike Quilligan" Blake Bell wrote: <> Pretty sure there's one on ebay right now... It has a Marshall Rogers interview in it as well, and I've been looking for a copy for some time. The ione there looks kinda beat up, though, and the starting bid was $10... I'm a college student, I can't spend $15 (+ shipping) for a beat up 20 year old fanzine. :( MQ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From RJCroxton@aol.com Sun Apr 08 18:23:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 01:23:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 770 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 01:23:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 01:23:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 01:23:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RJCroxton@aol.com Received: from [10.1.2.163] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 01:23:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:23:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #7 COVER Message-ID: <9ar2u9+glia@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 330 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.195.187 From: RJCroxton@aol.com TFTA #7 has the best cover of the series. Gordon Green has outdone himself on it. If anyone is interested in seeing it early let me know. File is very large and takes forever to load. Maybe Gord can resize it and send it to the files. In case anyone is wondering #6 is coming out, life just got in the way. Richard Croxton From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Apr 08 20:43:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 03:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 91608 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 03:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 03:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 03:43:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.2.52] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 03:43:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:43:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: What is a fanzine Message-ID: <9arb46+u5ho@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 645 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.73 From: "Rob Gustaveson" I agree that does make it more difficult. So we should define ama and pro zines as such...or not.--- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Merlin Haas wrote: > Rob Gustaveson wrote: > > >I definately define Witzend to be a fanzine but not Locus. I'd say > >anything mass produced should not be considered a fanzine. > > To confuse things further, Locus started in the 60's as a > mimeographed newszine, definitely a science fiction fanzine. So > Locus could be a publication that once was a fanzine, but isn't one > now. (Though it's probably as much a fanzine now as Comics Buyer's > Guide is...) > > best -- Merlin Haas From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Apr 08 21:03:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 04:03:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 33242 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 04:03:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 04:03:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 04:03:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.107] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 04:03:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 04:03:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... Message-ID: <9arcak+po4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200103302041.OAA07352@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1961 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.73 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Good memory!!! I remember Bode's Green Army fatigues at the time and=20 also small little fanzines "Cheech Wizard" and also "The Machines!"=20=20 B& W and I'd love to own another set of em!!! I just discovered a new comic I really like--2nd new comic I've=20 purchased in 4 years: Promethea #13 April 2001 !! Really nice. From=20 America's Best Comics! I recommend it! Must get them all now! Oh=20 no hooked again!=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >Subject: [cbzines] Re: Colletta, inkers, pencillers... > >From: Rob Gustaveson, gustaveson@g... >=20 > > > >Re: Colletta--I want to dig out an old Thor to see if I liked his=20 > >style. But I'm too lazy to do so at the moment. I first met you=20 and=20 > >Bode' at Saint Louis SF world con. >=20 >=20 > That little side room at the StL SF World Con where Bode & Larry=20 Todd had their art show was intense at the time. I remember Vaughn=20 was still in very short hair and green army fatigues >=20 > robert beerbohm >=20 > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 > beerbohm@t... (402)727-4071 > NEW COMICS CATALOG v34 #2 Spring 2001- OUT NOW! > - USA people ask me for your Free Copy. > 64 pages with close to 600 cover repros > plus a brand new 8 page supplement > ******************************************** > Member of Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org > ******************************************** > Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group=20 > Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books &=20 strips=20 > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics > Visual Aid posted to http://www.egroups.com/group/PlatPics > All roads seem to lead back to Rudolph T=F6pffer > ************************************************************ > There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The=20 few=20 > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the=20 > electric fence for themselves. From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Apr 08 21:40:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 96870 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.4.69] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 04:40:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 04:40:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta/Baker Message-ID: <9arefj+golc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102170520.f1H5KlX176272@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3304 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.73 From: "Rob Gustaveson" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" wrote: > -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > > Gord asked: > > > ** Other than THE BLACK KNIGHT, which was inspired, beautiful work, the > only > > other Joe Maneely work I've seen was a few SUB-MARINER covers. Did he do > any > > other series work? > > Check out YELLOW CLAW #1 (Oct/56). Conceived by Stan Lee, scripted by Al > Feldstein (the only Atlas work he ever did) and pencilled and inked by Joe > Maneely. Playing off these great names: Just met Al Feldstein at local comic con here in Seattle...just a few in line to see him, sadly. Big lineups for anime' which makes me think either I'm over the hill or the young don't know very much! Oh well who am I to judge. Feldstein has got a crusty exterior but a kind heart. Owned and sold a copy of Yellow Claw #1 I think. Loved it. Wish I did not have to live off my stock. The art is gorgeous. Delicate yet intricate. Maneely was perfect > for the Fu Manchu knock-off and left after one issue turning the feature > over to Jack Kirby who turned it into a sci-fi adventure series. > > Joe Maneely was the Atlas equivalent of a Jack Kirby workhorse. What Jack > was for Stan in the 1960's. Joe was for Stan in the 1950's. Whenever there > was a new western feature to launch, Joe would launch it, do the first few > issues and turn it over to someone else while frequently doing most of the > covers. This is most evident in RINGO KID and WYATT EARP. > > > **** I understand that in those days he had no insurance etc. and his > > family was left destitute. > > Yes. The family never recovered. Joe's daughter wrote me a "What If?" > monologue detailing her feelings about what it was like growing up without a > father and what a profound effect his death had on her life and her family. > It'll see print eventually accompanying a Maneely article I haven't written > yet, possibly for CBA. > > > I was recently communicating with Fandom founder, and Editor Emeritus > > from ALTER EGO ( He edited two issues of the original series!) Ronn > > Foss, and he was surprised to hear about Joe. Like many fans, he had > > just noticed that his work had tapered off and stopped. What a shame > > that he was not around for the MARVEL EXPLOSION! He would have given > > Jack Kirby a run for his money! Just imagine! > > He died just as the pre-hero era was a-borning. His last (drawn, not > published) work for Stan Lee was in TWO-GUN KID #44 (Oct/58) and the stories > have "T" job numbers of T-19 and T-35. These are pre-hero designations > corresponding with Kirby and Ditko's sci-fi return to Marvel in STRANGE > WORLDS #1 (Dec/58) sporting stories with early "T" job #'s. He died as > Marvel was being incubated. He would have been a large part of the Marvel > Universe and Marvel Comics of the 1960's would have been possibly > drastically different. Kirby surely on FF but Maneely on Spider- Man? > Possibly. With Maneely turning out score after score of stories perhaps > Ditko may have been squeezed out or down a rung. Maybe the opportunity for > Spidey or Dr. Strange wouldn't have presented itself. Who knows? Great story idea for a "What If." > > Doc V. From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Apr 08 21:47:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 04:47:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 9880 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 04:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 04:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 04:47:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 04:47:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 04:47:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: From fanzines to the Worls-Wide Web Message-ID: <9aretf+dvg0@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5039 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.73 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Beautifully put! Profound! Exactly what I preach. Not all students should be put through the same tube. (In fact in Kindergarden a tape recorder embarassed me greatly for a long while.) (Luckily that studdering went away). They now say that teenagers hear best not when an adult is up close but 14--20 feet away! --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > Transferred to the chat list and the fanzines list -- > > (Please excuse me if you are seeing this twice.) > > (Bob Highes and I were discussing the desire that good computer programmers > have in involving the end-user in the design of the interface between new > software and the human being who is going to use the program.) > > >In a message dated 2/17/01 12:25:09 PM, bobhughes@t... writes: > > Bob Hughes [a computer programmer] wrote: > >>I keep telling them [non-programmers]. "Get a > >>piece of paper and draw what you want the screen to look like and I'll > >>take it from there." But they won't do it. > >> > > Jerry responded: > >You may be talking to aural (at least, non-visual) people. Ask them > >questions. They are probably not visual thinkers. (Check if they read > >maps. Many probably prefer oral directions. That doesn't mean they can't > learn > >to read maps, but they have a way of getting around town that involves less > >anxiety.) > > In a message dated 2/18/01 11:33:47 AM, Bob Hughes responded: > >There is no more horrible experience than putting a map reader and a > >"landmarks" person in the same car together and try to get some place... > >Obviously our school system does not teach the right basic skills. > >Everybody should be taught how to draw and how to listen and how to speak. > >After that we can move on to reading and writing. > > > > Jerry responds: > I'm being a bit facetious, but I'm grateful that many of us learned to speak > before going to school. Otherwise, we might have a nation of stutterers. > > About learning to draw -- small child I've ever seen has as much natural > inclination to draw as to speak. The trouble is the too many schools (and > society generally) kill the incentive to draw, so that few of us wind up as > adults with any inclination to keep up this mode of self- expression. > > My youngest son, Kirk, at the age of seven, had an intuitive comprehension of > perspective that was revealing in his numerous drawings of Detroit street > scenes. His drawings caught the eye of one of my former students who was > teaching at an art school in Detroit's Cultural Center. She asked and > received permission to put on an art exhibit of Kirk's drawings for her > college-level students to study. > > Does Kirk still draw? No, one of his teachers repeatedly badmouthed the > subject of some of his drawings and killed his interest in art. All our > encouragement couldn't correct the damage that teacher had done over the > course of a year. Of course, Kirk had other problems with his OCD, but a > sensitive teacher who had the time, freedom and understanding of human > variation could have encouraged the natural development of this shy boy > rather than following some study plan designed to instruct 35-40 > eight-year-olds in a lockstep manner. > > My point is that each child deserves to be responded to as an individual that > has a unique cognitive style -- i.e., a way of approaching and learning about > the world and developing her ability to express herself. America's > unwillingness to invest in each child's uniqueness is wasteful and appalling > to me. No elementary school teacher should have more than a dozen students > at most. > > The beauty of Comics Fandom and fanzines has always been that it provided an > additional creative outlet for individuals who could not generally find such > an outlet in normal channels. > > Back in the mid-1960s, I had the delightful opportunity to go on educational > TV in Detroit. A wonderful teacher was using the medium to reach 5th graders > about creative writing and drawing. She invited me to introduce to Detroit > children the concept of their own fanzine. We sat in front of a huge poster > of Spider-man and laid out the possibilities of all sorts of subjects that > could become the basis of a youngster's creative publishing efforts. I feel > confident we did some good even if we showed just one youngster what the > possibilities were. > > Today, the WWW provides even more opportunities to break out of the lockstep > of formal education. The Internet (not just the Web) is a wellspring of > possibilities for eager growing minds thirsting for something not provided by > formal education. > > By joining a list, creating one's own Web page, or writing to like- minded > friends around the world, we participate in the greatest breakthrough in > human opportunity since the invention of cheap printing. Revel it in. It > will ultimately change all mankind. > > Bestest, > > Jerry From JerryBails@aol.com Mon Apr 09 15:39:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 22:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 35179 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 22:39:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 22:39:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 23:40:13 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id w.70.96fd3dd (4248); Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <70.96fd3dd.280393ed@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:38:37 EDT Subject: 40th Anniversary of Alter Ego To: cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Does anyone have a copy of Wonder Woman #60? I would like to get color stats of the stories in that book as a gift for Roy Thomas to celebrate our 40th anniversary since Alter Ego #1. He was inspired by a story in that book and has been looking for it in hopes of doing something for Alter Ego. If you can help me, I'm sure I can find something around here to brighten your day, and I'll pay full costs for the stats. Contact me off list. Thanks. Bestest, Jerry From robgerson@home.com Tue Apr 10 07:43:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: robgerson@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 10 Apr 2001 14:43:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 28989 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 14:43:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2001 14:43:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.86) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 14:43:14 -0000 Received: from [24.177.130.105] by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010410144313.SIGH26465.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[24.177.130.105]> for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:43:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: robgerson@mail.santab1.ca.home.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <986893308.672.6188.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <986893308.672.6188.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:44:13 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzines at ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Robert Gerson Greetings Fellow Fanzine Collectors: For those interested I have about a dozen rare fanzines for sale on ebay ending Tues.,Wed. evening. Spa Fon, This is Legend, I'll Be Damned, early TCBG and more. See them at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=robert@brandywine.net&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Thank you, Robert Gerson From robgerson@home.com Tue Apr 10 07:49:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: robgerson@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 10 Apr 2001 14:49:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 72677 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 14:49:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2001 14:49:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 14:49:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: robgerson@home.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2001 14:49:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:49:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: fanzines at ebay link Message-ID: <9av6i1+9vge@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 67 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.177.130.105 From: robgerson@home.com If the ebay link does not work try seller: robert@brandywine.net From ditko37@home.com Tue Apr 10 11:18:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 10 Apr 2001 18:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 60776 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 18:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2001 18:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 18:18:48 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.52]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBL9J800.N0Q; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:18:44 -0600 Message-ID: <3AD34E42.2DF20060@home.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:17:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, ditko-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: REALM #2 illo. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell And here's another treat for all you crazies. Thanks to the Miraculous Merlin, a never-before-listed Ditko treat! Yes, an uncovered gem from the fanzine REALM #2 (May' 70) featuring a Ditko illo. of the BLUE BEETLE... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlton-l/files/Realm3.jpg The only bonus of Ditko's continued silence over the years is that new work keeps popping up to surprise! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Tue Apr 10 11:25:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 10 Apr 2001 18:25:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 79145 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2001 18:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2001 18:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Apr 2001 18:25:27 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.167.52]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBL9UB00.50R for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:25:23 -0600 Message-ID: <3AD34FCD.54B354C3@home.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:24:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Oh, Did I Screw That Up! (Was REALM #2 illo.) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Hahahaha (he says in his best Norm McDonald voice)... Let's try that link again for the uncovered gem from the fanzine REALM #2 (May' 70) featuring a Ditko illo. of the BLUE BEETLE... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Realm2.jpg SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From tonyisa@ohio.net Wed Apr 11 03:05:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 11 Apr 2001 10:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 67035 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 10:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2001 10:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 10:05:51 -0000 Received: from zar (ppp-f1.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.129]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id JAA07100; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:52:29 GMT for œ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010411053533.006cfcac@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:35:33 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: Promethea In-Reply-To: <9arcak+po4@eGroups.com> References: <200103302041.OAA07352@www.teknetwork.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella At 04:03 AM 4/9/2001 -0000, Rob wrote: >I just discovered a new comic I really like--2nd new comic I've >purchased in 4 years: Promethea #13 April 2001 !! Really nice. From >America's Best Comics! I recommend it! Must get them all now! Oh >no hooked again!<<< I echo your recommendation. DC/Wildstorm/ABC has done at least one collection (in hardcover and softcover) of the first seven issues. It might be easier to find than the actual issues. Tony Isabella ********************************* Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 TONY'S ONLINE TIPS A new columns every Monday/Wednesday/Friday at: http://www.PerpetualComics.com TONY'S TIPS Reprints from Comics Buyer's Guide plus new material every Friday at: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony TONY'S TIPS MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.wfcomics.com/boards/tony From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Wed Apr 11 18:57:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 12 Apr 2001 01:57:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23106 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2001 01:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2001 01:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c001.snv.cp.net) (209.228.32.123) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2001 02:58:50 -0000 Received: (cpmta 17215 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 18:57:46 -0700 Date: 11 Apr 2001 18:57:46 -0700 Message-ID: <20010412015746.17214.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 12 Apr 2001 01:57:46 GMT Received: from [165.121.37.242] by mail.graphic-illusion.com with HTTP; 11 Apr 2001 18:57:45 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: Promethea From: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Thanks. Know any online seller's who will give a former retailer lifelong collector a juicy discount? On Wed, 11 April 2001, Tony Isabella wrote: > > At 04:03 AM 4/9/2001 -0000, Rob wrote: > > >I just discovered a new comic I really like--2nd new comic I've > >purchased in 4 years: Promethea #13 April 2001 !! Really nice. From > >America's Best Comics! I recommend it! Must get them all now! Oh > >no hooked again!<<< > > I echo your recommendation. DC/Wildstorm/ABC has done at least one > collection (in hardcover and softcover) of the first seven issues. It > might be easier to find than the actual issues. > > Tony Isabella > ********************************* > Mailing address: > Tony Isabella > P.O. Box 1502 > Medina, OH 44258 > > TONY'S ONLINE TIPS > A new columns every > Monday/Wednesday/Friday at: > http://www.PerpetualComics.com > > TONY'S TIPS > Reprints from Comics Buyer's Guide > plus new material every Friday at: > http://www.wfcomics.com/tony > > TONY'S TIPS MESSAGE BOARD: > http://www.wfcomics.com/boards/tony > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From tazwert@yahoo.com Fri Apr 13 10:02:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 13 Apr 2001 17:02:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 78948 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2001 17:02:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2001 17:02:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13808.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.18) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Apr 2001 17:02:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20010413170212.15662.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.138.230.83] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:02:12 PDT Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Promethea To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert I have to echo the sentiments about PROMETHEA. It is a wonderful book. ===== *********************************************************** "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he's a baby." - Natalie Wood (1938 - 1981) *********************************************************** Join The Quotes Du Jour mailing list. Send an e-mail to: quotes-dujour-subscribe@yahoogroups.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From RJCroxton@aol.com Fri Apr 13 20:05:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 14 Apr 2001 03:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 86756 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2001 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Apr 2001 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.96.12cee152 (4569) for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <96.12cee152.28091869@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:05:13 EDT Subject: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For all the people who have sent payment for TFTA #6 and wondering if it will ever come out. I recieved my copies yesterday from the printer and was digusted. The quality was so poor you couldn't read any of the words in the word balloons. My wife and i decided to print out copies on our computers. Sorry it is taking so long. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC $4 each RJC Enterprises 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Apr 13 20:28:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 14 Apr 2001 03:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21245 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2001 03:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2001 03:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 03:28:52 -0000 Received: from storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.102]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 857D71288 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id UAA16784; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQbWreUFbZA7KgjmJLGWwIOWxsxmwIUfaov2YUSozKjv6MqPod/sXoGDfU= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:28:51 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: Chicago Kids-TV-Show, Hosts, Reunion Message-ID: <26751-3AD7C3F3-4011@storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 8 Mar 2001 17:58:44 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net 'Sounds like there's going to be a lot of fun in Chicago next Saturday, the 21st, when that citiy's Museum of Broadcasting hosts a reunion of local kids-show host/performers: People like Ray Rayner, Bill Jackson, Joey D'Auria (an Illinois "Bozo"), Mary Hartline (SUPER CIRCUS)... Apparently, the April 21st Celebration is the kickoff for a new exhibit, devoted to Chicago kids-tv, including puppets (like Garfield Goose), and, perhaps, a mention of the Stooges! Here's the url/address, with all the info: http://www.tvparty.com/chicago.html I, no doubt, will be home in New York... But, if anyone goes, please let us know, how it went! Best, Jim Burns From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Apr 13 23:05:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 14 Apr 2001 06:05:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 35022 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2001 06:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2001 06:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 06:05:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2001 06:05:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 06:05:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 Message-ID: <9b8paj+qmif@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <96.12cee152.28091869@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 727 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.147 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Richard, Printers can be a real problem! take it from one who knows! But, since patience can be a virtue, I'll wait anxiously! Good luck! Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., RJCroxton@a... wrote: > For all the people who have sent payment for TFTA #6 and wondering if it will > ever come out. I recieved my copies yesterday from the printer and was > digusted. The quality was so poor you couldn't read any of the words in the > word balloons. My wife and i decided to print out copies on our computers. > Sorry it is taking so long. > > Richard Croxton > > TALES FROM THE ATTIC > $4 each > > RJC Enterprises > 4612 Eastwood > Little Rock, AR > 72204 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tonyisa@ohio.net Mon Apr 16 02:52:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 16 Apr 2001 09:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 90485 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 09:52:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Apr 2001 09:52:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 09:52:30 -0000 Received: from zar (ppp-f23.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.151]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id JAA13115; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:38:36 GMT for œ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:38:36 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010416053753.006ae94c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:37:53 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: Artists and Models In-Reply-To: <96.12cee152.28091869@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella Neither comic books nor their critics come off particularly well in the 1955 movie, ARTISTS AND MODELS, but they are key elements of this amusing vehicle starring Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis, and Shirley MacLaine. AMC is running it twice tonight [Monday, April 16] at 8:00 pm and at 1:00 am. Those are Eastern Standard times. MacLaine in a "catwoman" suit is particularly notable. Tony Isabella ********************************* Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 TONY'S ONLINE TIPS A new columns every Monday/Wednesday/Friday at: http://www.PerpetualComics.com TONY'S TIPS Reprints from Comics Buyer's Guide plus new material every Friday at: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony TONY'S TIPS MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.wfcomics.com/boards/tony From tonyisa@ohio.net Mon Apr 16 07:28:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 16 Apr 2001 14:28:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 71801 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 14:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2001 14:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 14:28:48 -0000 Received: from zar ([207.1.37.234]) by medina.ohio.net(8.8.5/25) with SMTP id OAA03340; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:14:54 GMT for œ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:14:54 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010416100111.006b1f2c@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:01:11 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 In-Reply-To: <96.12cee152.28091869@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella At 11:05 PM 4/13/2001 EDT, you wrote: >For all the people who have sent payment for TFTA #6 and wondering if it will >ever come out. I recieved my copies yesterday from the printer and was >digusted. The quality was so poor you couldn't read any of the words in the >word balloons. My wife and i decided to print out copies on our computers. >Sorry it is taking so long.<<< I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties. But, to put a positive spin on it, you're carrying on a fanzine tradition. How many zines of the 1960s actually came out when they were scheduled to come out? Seriously, I hope this setback doesn't bum you out too much. For most of the folks on this list, comic books are a hobby...and hobbies should make anybody lose their minds. Best wishes, Tony Isabella ********************************* Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 TONY'S ONLINE TIPS A new columns every Monday/Wednesday/Friday at: http://www.PerpetualComics.com TONY'S TIPS Reprints from Comics Buyer's Guide plus new material every Friday at: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony TONY'S TIPS MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.wfcomics.com/boards/tony From RJCroxton@aol.com Mon Apr 16 16:31:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 16 Apr 2001 23:31:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24150 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 23:31:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2001 23:31:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r12.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 23:31:53 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.b7.d36878e (4462) for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:31:08 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/16/01 9:29:12 AM Central Daylight Time, tonyisa@ohio.net writes: > I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties. But, to put a positive spin on > it, you're carrying on a fanzine tradition. How many zines of the 1960s > actually came out when they were scheduled to come out? > > Seriously, I hope this setback doesn't bum you out too much. For most of > the folks on this list, comic books are a hobby...and hobbies should make > anybody lose their minds. > > Best wishes, > > Tony Isabella > ********************************* > To show how smart these printers are, I went up today to pick some copies of a few sections of the fanzine only to find out that they are brain dead. One of the articles they were to copy for me they left out page 3 thinking it was unimportant, plus they mixed up the order of pages in the comics reprints. The worse part was that they decided that they need to up the price per page on copying. Needless to say i left the shop empty handed deciding never to use them again. I should have everything done and ready to send off by this weekend. Don't worry about me being bummed out and quitting TFTA, I won't. TFTA has been a dream of mine for 25 years, I was 15 when I read a book on making your own comics and started looking at the library for more books to read. Here is where I put my HELP WANTED AD in, I'm looking for someone to write reviews on Golden Age comics. Payment is 1 copy of TFTA that your review is in. (generous aren't I?) Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC $4 each RJC Enterprises 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue Apr 17 00:26:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 17 Apr 2001 07:26:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 55217 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 07:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2001 07:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 07:26:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.117] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2001 07:26:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:26:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Don Moore/FLASH GORDON Message-ID: <9bgr6b+gbbk@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 923 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.84 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Hello-- Several weeks back, we had an neresting thread, on Alex Raymond, going... Now, a new, related, question! Is anyone aware of any interview/profile ever done with Don Moore, the scenarist, reportedly, of FLASH GORDON, throughout the late '40s? Also, has a start date for Moore's work with Alex Raymond, ever been established? (And if Moore wasn't there from the start, is it known if Raymond had any other story-collabrators, on the early FLASH GORDON?) Has Raymond's working relationship with Moore been defined? Would Moore create the stories on his own, collaborate with Raymond, or simply dialogue Raymond's plots...? Would Moore supply the entire stories, which Raymond, if simply by how he chose to illustrate them, would then edit? How much of a COLLABORATION, was it? Forgive all the questons, but I know that we have some Alex Raymond, and FLASH GORDON historians, here! Thanks! Best, Jim Burns From godofpockets@yahoo.com Tue Apr 17 21:31:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: godofpockets@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 18 Apr 2001 04:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 78090 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 04:31:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2001 04:31:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 04:31:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: godofpockets@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.133] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2001 04:31:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:31:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: If you are an Artist looking to get hired... Message-ID: <9bj5a9+5gke@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 313 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.158.91.32 From: godofpockets@yahoo.com Hey, I'm looking for a professional quality artist to work for me on a project that I will be submitting for publication. So, if you are interested check this group out. Here you can submit applications or examples of your work. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bookartist Thank you, David Nathaniel Musgrave From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Wed Apr 18 15:17:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 18 Apr 2001 22:17:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 93100 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 22:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2001 22:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11603.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.55) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 22:17:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20010418221714.38082.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.5] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:17:14 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] If you are an Artist looking to get hired... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9bj5a9+5gke@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov I would be interested, if you want to check out my style. go to ultrazine in the egroups for yahoo, you can find a whole slew of illustrations that i have posted there Nick --- godofpockets@yahoo.com wrote: > Hey, I'm looking for a professional quality artist > to work for me on > a project that I will be submitting for publication. > So, if you are > interested check this group out. Here you can > submit applications or > examples of your work. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bookartist > > Thank you, > David Nathaniel Musgrave > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Apr 19 06:15:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 19 Apr 2001 13:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 50607 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 13:15:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Apr 2001 13:15:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.47) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 13:15:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.116] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2001 13:15:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wally Wood/WITZEND Message-ID: <9bmodm+56ug@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 345 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.108 From: jameshburns@webtv.net For those of you who aren't also "subscribed" there-- There's been an interesting thread going on at the Wally Wood Yahoogroups,group (!) on WITZEND magazine, with many postings by publisher Bill Pearson, and others. You might want to check it out! (Just go to the home page for yahoogroups, and do a search on "Wally Wood...") Best, Jim From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Apr 20 07:14:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 20 Apr 2001 14:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 90449 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 14:14:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2001 14:14:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.egroups.com) (10.1.10.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 14:14:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.2.91] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2001 14:14:27 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:14:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wally Wood Yahoo Group Message-ID: <9bpg81+cqfe@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 194 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.221.68 From: jameshburns@webtv.net A couple of folks emailed me, off list, that they couldn't locate the WallyWood group, here. Here's the "url": http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wood-l Hopefully, that will work! Best, Jim From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Apr 20 08:42:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 20 Apr 2001 15:42:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28378 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 15:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2001 15:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r15.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.69) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 15:42:05 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id r.93.9a28ea1 (24895) for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <93.9a28ea1.2811b2b9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:45 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Wally Wood Yahoo Group To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/01 7:16:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jameshburns@webtv.net writes: > A couple of folks emailed me, off list, that they couldn't locate the > WallyWood group, here. > > Here's the "url": > > > When I go there and try to join it claims that I "do not have any email addresses available for subscription" even though I have a personal file with yahoo and a code number! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From odbs@zoomnet.net Fri Apr 20 09:21:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 20 Apr 2001 16:21:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 68152 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 16:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2001 16:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 16:21:39 -0000 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA31557 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000018646; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:25:16 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [cbzines] Wally Wood Yahoo Group Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.31.75.19 From: odbs@zoomnet.net James and James: Yahoo must be experiencing some technical difficulties. Like they aren't difficult ENOUGH already! Anyhoo, there is a way to join in the frolicsome fun without going to the main page. Simply fire off a blank email to wood-l-subscribe@yahoogroups.com . You will immediately be added to the member's list, which unfortunately won't help you to access the message archives but will facillitate participation in the current thread. Eventually I trust you'll somehow overcome Yahoo's arcane maze, then you'll be able to read the message archives, which in my humble opinion is certainly a notch or two higher on the "time well spent" scale than reading the latest WIZARD! best, Dave R. comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/20/01 7:16:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > jameshburns@webtv.net writes: > > > > A couple of folks emailed me, off list, that they couldn't locate the > > WallyWood group, here. > > > > Here's the "url": > > > > > > > > When I go there and try to join it claims that I "do not have any email > addresses available for subscription" even though I have a personal file with > yahoo and a code number! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From ernpell@kersur.net Fri Apr 20 13:38:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ernpell@kersur.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 20 Apr 2001 20:38:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 52010 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 20:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2001 20:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 20:38:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ernpell@kersur.net Received: from [10.1.10.127] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2001 20:38:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:38:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: CPL? Message-ID: <9bq6o6+p1h3@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 124 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 216.126.162.177 From: ernpell@kersur.net Anyone know of a source for the CPL fanzines put out by Bob Layton and the CPL Gang folks several years ago? Thnks, Ernie From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Apr 20 21:49:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 04:49:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 86112 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 04:49:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 04:49:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 04:49:50 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf13.rt66.com [206.206.85.33]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA10072; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:49:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AE1122A.ED9987AE@rt66.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:52:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , wood , fanzines , mightycomics , Dick Ayers , wood Subject: OT - Book ID help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker While in Florida the other month, I stopped at a Barnes and Noble and noticed a nice coffee table book about comics that I *thought* was called "The Golden Era of The Comic Book". I didn't catch the author's name, but I don't think it was one of the prominent ones (Goulart, Gifford, Rovin, Benton, etc). I didn't pick it up as it was rather large and I didn't want to weigh down my carry-on. Well, since then, I've looked high and low to find the damn thing (even looking on B & N's website to no avail!) and can't locate the puppy! Anyone have any idea of what book it is I'm looking for? --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Apr 21 00:14:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 07:14:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 7570 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 07:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 07:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 07:14:58 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.da.52d6b15 (4200) for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:14:53 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] coffee table book To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/21/01 3:07:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > While in Florida the other month, I stopped at a > Barnes and Noble and noticed a nice coffee table > book about comics that I *thought* was called > "The Golden Era of The Comic Book". The Classic Era of American Comics (or something like that) by Nicky Wright. He died shortly after it was published. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sat Apr 21 00:39:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 07:39:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 41427 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 07:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 07:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta3 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 07:39:04 -0000 Received: from storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.62]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id B49D6556 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id AAA20489; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQ4xM939M5TAseh8as1BSXd56ZzpQIVAKEe1Q9rvuHRn1nq/jk5bE8eYXbR Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:39:01 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wood Group Message-ID: <236-3AE13915-3860@storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 21 Apr 2001 07:06:48 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Yahoogroups was indeed having all sorts of problems, today... (The website, in fact, refused to recognize me... Actually, good taste, no doubt!) Save the Wally Wood "url" and keep giving it a shot. Ultimately, it will work! Best, Jim From DocV@Prodigy.net Sat Apr 21 06:55:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 13:55:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 77201 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 13:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 13:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.101) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 13:55:56 -0000 Received: from [63.253.85.56] (A080-1072.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.85.56]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3LDttP82888 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:55:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200104211355.f3LDttP82888@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines Subject: Re: [cbzines] coffee table book Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:58:32 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- Steve Rowe wrote: > The Classic Era of American Comics (or something like that) by Nicky Wright. > He died shortly after it was published. He died?? Oh jeez, that's terrible. My condolences to his family. Accident ? Illness?? Nicky wrote a bunch of great articles in CBM over the years. Why didn't I hear about this? Was it mentioned anywhere? CBG? . On a a related note, what ever happened to CBM? What was the last issue before its hiatus? Doc V. From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sat Apr 21 10:56:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 17:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 47139 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 17:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 17:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 17:56:26 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.7f.13726f0a (4568) for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7f.13726f0a.281323c0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:56:16 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT - Book ID help To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/21/01 12:50:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > While in Florida the other month, I stopped at a > Barnes and Noble and noticed a nice coffee table > book about comics that I *thought* was called > "The Golden Era of The Comic Book". I didn't > catch the author's name, but I don't think it was > one of the prominent ones (Goulart, Gifford, > -------------- Hi Lyle! Was it The Classic Era Of American Comics? Author's name is Nicky Wright, cover colors are red and yellow, has a Superman, Batman, Jumbo and some horror comic cover reproduced on the front of the dustjacket. --steve cohen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Sat Apr 21 20:13:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 03:13:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 31390 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 03:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 03:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 03:13:26 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf23.rt66.com [206.206.85.43]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25952; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AE24D16.335ECEED@rt66.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:16:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , mightycomics , wood , ayers-l , timely , fanzines , monstermaniacs , bluemoonies Subject: (OT) Call for Comic Downloading Sites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker I've been downloading scanned comics from NailNews, but they appear to be offline for a few months, so was wondering if anyone had some other comic scan sites to recommend? Thanks in advance! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From customego@yahoo.com Sat Apr 21 21:50:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 04:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 78450 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 04:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 04:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 04:50:13 -0000 Received: from cr253927a ([24.42.156.41]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010422045005.USFO8339.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@cr253927a> for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: <001b01c0cae7$4ab1db40$299c2a18@pr1.on.wave.home.com> To: References: <3AE24D16.335ECEED@rt66.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] (OT) Call for Comic Downloading Sites Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:47:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here you go Lyle. http://www.newzgroups.net/mynews Take Care, Darrin The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age http://goldenage.cjb.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun Apr 22 10:35:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 17:35:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 29901 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 17:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 17:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 17:35:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.208] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2001 17:35:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:34:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER PRESENTS: NEO-BATMANIA Message-ID: <9bv4o2+rdhf@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 420 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.124 From: flash14221@yahoo.com MMP:1 is now ready for mailing. It's a 68 pg ( with 4 foldouts!) tribute to the #1 Batman zine of all time, BATMANIA! MMP: is to be a companion zine to MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER featuring a different subject, title or feature each issue. Sometimes a homage, sometimes a parody, sometimes just a focus on an individual topic! Cost is $6.00 postpaid. send to: Gordon Green MMP: 215 N. Linden Williamsville NY, 14221-6639 From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Apr 22 12:15:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 19:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10259 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 19:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 19:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.70) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 19:15:36 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.3b.13a13c3c (7867) for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3b.13a13c3c.281487cb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:15:23 EDT Subject: Nicky Wright To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As for the death of Nicky Wright, I believe the only place I heard about it, was on one of the GCD lists (I had complained about the book, and someone - Randy Scott? mentioned his death). Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sun Apr 22 12:31:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65631 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 19:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 19:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c3.egroups.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 19:31:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.2.133] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2001 19:31:59 -0000 Date: 22 Apr 2001 19:31:56 -0000 Message-ID: <987967916.33623.52157.ff@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Notify: From: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines group. File : /MMP1 neoBATMANIA.jpg Uploaded by : flash14221@yahoo.com Description : MID MASQ PRES;neoBATMANIA You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/MMP1%20neoBATMANIA.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, flash14221@yahoo.com From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Apr 22 16:27:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 23:27:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 619 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 23:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 23:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 23:27:51 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf15.rt66.com [206.206.85.35]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09626 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AE3699F.A5E4F2D2@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:30:39 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: REVIEW: Midnight Masquerader Presents #1: Neo-Batmania Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker This is our-very-own Gordon Green's latest publication. An off-shoot of his excellent MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER (MM), MMP's purpose is to supplement in a more singular fashion material which he feels might not necessarily be compatible with MM's tone. In this issue he concentrates totally on Batman, explaining that future issues will focus on a single artist, comic, or topic. Given that this issue managed to retain my interest all the way through - me, a confirmed Marvel Zombie who has never cared all that much for Batman - I'll be quite interested to see which future topics MMP tackles. I know that a Timely/Atlas issue is in the works (for which I hope to contribute artwork) and *this* piques my interest greatly! As those who know me will attest, my main interest in the world of comics and fanzines is, simply put, art. A fanzine of overwhelming text and a dearth of artwork will put me to sleep. MMP doesn't even begin to wander into this territory - in fact, I believe Gordon has placed more artwork into this issue than just about any other zine I've ever seen (barring those which are, indeed, comprised of nothing but strips). Not that the expository aspects of the zine are given short- shrift, they're not, but the artwork of Batman receives full treatment here - including four instances of double-paged fold-outs! 32 fine artists are represented, including Bob Kane, Neal Adams, Gil Kane, Mike Kaluta, Bill Sienkiewic, Art Adams, Paul Gulacy, Jerry Robinson, Bruce Timm, & Carmine Infantino. In a move I highly applaud, Gordon has placed a full-page illus- tration on every other page. A few suffer from weak reproduction, but by and large that's a minor quibble - the majority came out just fine. The first article, "BATMAN: Analysis of a Legend," is by Micheal E. Grost and follows a convincing format. Different as- pects of the Batman mythos are explored by contrasting 44 stories of similar themes throughout the various stages of his lengthy career. A few of the broader categories examined are: "The Origin Tales," "Edmond Hamilton's 1950's Work," "The Superman-Batman Team," and "High-Tech Stories." To Mr. Grost's credit, a Marvel Zombie found his insights illuminating and entertaining. There were more than several stories he referred to that I wished I could read, and I certainly learned a few things I hadn't known. Mr. Grost's piece runs a full 15 pages long, so those of you who like a little meat in their articles will get their fill here. The next 9 pages are devoted to full page reproductions of covers from that seminal Batman fanzine, BATMANIA. Again, the repro suffers a bit, but understanding the nature of those early mags, it's not surprising and is forgivable. The other articles are separate profiles of Batman and Robin; uncred- ited, so I'm assuming Gordon himself penned these. Both articles feature these sections: Personal Data - History - Powers/Skills - Weaknesses/Limitations - and Principal Adversaries. They are both solid recaps of the Dynamic Duo, littered with artwork. A Batman art gallery entitled "Faces of the Bat" rounds off this fine issue. In a fanzine, we expect most of all a sense of delight with the material being presented. As with Gordon's first issue of MIDNIGHT MAS- QUERADER, we find that here (in 66 abundant pages!). This is an impressive endeavor; is a *hefty* magazine; and is clearly a labor of love. Gordon has mentioned that he hopes to provide a thicker paper for the covers to his magazines, and I hope that proves feasible, but even without that, I honestly feel I can recommend this magazine without reservations. Gordon has achieved what I consider to be the exact right mixture of what a comics fanzine should be: enter- taining text combined with loads of great art. MIDNIGHT MASQUERADER PRESENTS, #1 can be ordered for $6, postpaid, from: Gordon Green 215 N. Linden Williamsville, NY 14221 or, drop him a line at: flash14221@yahoo.com --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Apr 22 16:57:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 23:57:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 49597 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 23:57:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 23:57:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 23:57:14 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf15.rt66.com [206.206.85.35]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13033 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AE370A5.F72116F@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:00:37 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Call for comic Downloading Sites References: <987958490.146.153.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Darrin Wiltshire wrote: > Here you go Lyle. > http://www.newzgroups.net/mynews MY HERO!! Thanks a zillion, buddy! A scanamaniac without a source is a sad thing indeed. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Apr 22 17:09:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 23 Apr 2001 00:09:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 71364 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2001 00:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2001 00:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2001 00:09:50 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.3e.a8ff6f7 (9639) for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3e.a8ff6f7.2814ccbe@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:09:34 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] REVIEW: Midnight Masquerader Presents #1: Neo-Batmania To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/22/01 4:58:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > A few suffer from weak reproduction, > but by and large that's a minor quibble - the majority came out > just fine. > Without seeing it I think I can guess what happened. Some faneds have been making the mistake of downloading artwork from internet sites and then printing from that. The problem is that the dpi used on line looks fine on your computer screen, but it's about half the dpi needed for printing purposes (300 dpi). That's why you get an image which looks like a fuzzy photocopy instead of that really nice image you have on your screen. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Apr 22 20:01:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 23 Apr 2001 03:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 17132 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2001 03:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2001 03:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2001 03:01:44 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf13.rt66.com [206.206.85.33]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA10824; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AE39BD6.DCAC2C36@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:04:54 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , wood , timely , wood , ayers-l , fanzines , mightycomics Subject: (OT) A Little More ID Help, Please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Sorry to be sucha pain lately, but I need help identifying this item I'm gonna be placing up on eBay. Any info you might have about this would be tremendously appreciated. It's a cardboard Comic Character clock that kids sent away a dime for (I believe this was put out in the 40s) that features Fawcett characters. It's called "Oscar and Friday's Comic Clock" - here're some scans of it (it's still unassembled and in fantastic shape): This is the cover to the envelope it came in: http://www.geocities.com/lyletucker/Clockcvr.JPG And this is the page where you actually punch out the clock face for assembly: http://www.geocities.com/lyletucker/clckface.JPG Any info at all would be great! Thanks! -- --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun Apr 22 20:54:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 23 Apr 2001 03:54:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 25142 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2001 03:54:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2001 03:54:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ef.egroups.com) (10.1.2.111) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2001 03:54:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.208] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2001 03:54:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:53:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] REVIEW: Midnight Masquerader Presents #1: Neo-Batmania Message-ID: <9c0908+kbh4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3e.a8ff6f7.2814ccbe@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1204 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.132 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > In a message dated 4/22/01 4:58:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ltucker@r... > writes: > > > > A few suffer from weak reproduction, > > but by and large that's a minor quibble - the majority came out > > just fine. > > > > Without seeing it I think I can guess what happened. Some faneds have been > making the mistake of downloading artwork from internet sites and then > printing from that. The problem is that the dpi used on line looks fine on > your computer screen, but it's about half the dpi needed for printing > purposes (300 dpi). That's why you get an image which looks like a fuzzy > photocopy instead of that really nice image you have on your screen. ******************************************************************** ** Jim, I think that's part of the problem, and can be corrected to an extent by running images through a Photoshop program.Most internet images are just too "small" in dpi to be really effective when "blown up" to a much larger size. These can be improved to a large extent, and I hope to in future issues. Gord -- James > Van Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@home.com Mon Apr 23 18:22:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 24 Apr 2001 01:22:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14007 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2001 01:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2001 01:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2001 01:22:00 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010424012121.JOOA17635.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE4D4C3.3DCA920A@home.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:20:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Is Cover to YANCY STREET JOURNAL #8 Photo-Offset? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Will Schelly's piece in ALTER EGO v3 #3 on the YANCY STREET JOURNAL run claims the Dr. Strange Ditko cover was the first photo-offset cover of the run, perhaps in fact for any fanzine with a professional artist on it. The fanzine list in the FILES section says YANCY STREET JOURNAL #8 is "Ditto". Does that mean the inside is Ditto, and the cover is Photo Offset? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From RJCroxton@aol.com Mon Apr 23 20:18:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 24 Apr 2001 03:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 90441 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2001 03:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2001 03:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2001 03:18:52 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.15.132874c5 (1558) for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15.132874c5.28164a92@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:18:42 EDT Subject: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 172 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copies of TFTA #6 are going out to subscribers this week. If anyone else is interested in a copy let me know. Richard Croxton [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mvhaas@elpaso.net Tue Apr 24 13:08:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 24 Apr 2001 20:08:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 35528 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2001 20:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2001 20:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.11) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2001 20:08:39 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server.elpaso.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3OK7Bn21137 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:07:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <988141418.374.82238.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <988141418.374.82238.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:09:18 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas At 7:43 PM +0000 4/24/01, Blake Bell: > Will Schelly's piece in ALTER EGO v3 #3 on the YANCY STREET JOURNAL run >claims the Dr. Strange Ditko cover was the first photo-offset cover of >the run, perhaps in fact for any fanzine with a professional artist on it. > The fanzine list in the FILES section says YANCY STREET JOURNAL #8 >is "Ditto". > Does that mean the inside is Ditto, and the cover is Photo Offset? > I don't have YSJ 8, but I do have 7 and 9 and in those they refer to the "litho" (offset) cover by Ditko and to number 9 being the first "all-litho" (lithographed) issue. So I guess it's safe to say that number 8 was ditto with an offset cover. Number 7 is all ditto. best -- Merlin Haas From ditko37@home.com Tue Apr 24 19:49:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 25 Apr 2001 02:49:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 82576 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2001 02:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2001 02:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.149) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2001 02:49:43 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010425024942.TFJH640.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:49:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE63ACF.69D940BA@home.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:47:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ALL STARS #1 from 1965 or July '66? (Was Re: Yancy Street #8 Cover) References: <988141418.374.82238.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Merlin Haas wrote: > I don't have YSJ 8, but I do have 7 and 9 and in those they refer > to the "litho" (offset) cover by Ditko and to number 9 being the > first "all-litho" (lithographed) issue. So I guess it's safe to say > that number 8 was ditto with an offset cover. Number 7 is all ditto. You're the best, Merlin. Here's another question... The fanzine list in the FILES section has ALL STARS #1 by MARTY ARBUNICH as being from July '66, but I can see an image of the cover on a web-site and i THINK the cover has a 1965 date on it. I too thought it was from 1966, but this seems to change things, if I'm reading it right. Here's the cover for All Stars #1... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/allstars1.jpg For a B&W version, uncluttered by the titles, check out THE DITKO COLLECTION #1 for the original. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ogden@csd.com Wed Apr 25 12:34:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 25 Apr 2001 19:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 76555 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2001 19:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2001 19:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2001 19:33:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2001 19:33:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:33:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ALL STARS #1 from 1965 or July '66? (Was Re: Yancy Street #8 Cover) Message-ID: <9c78r4+r69s@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3AE63ACF.69D940BA@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1229 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.62 From: "Steve Ogden" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > You're the best, Merlin. Here's another question... > The fanzine list in the FILES section has ALL STARS #1 by MARTY ARBUNICH > as being from July '66, but I can see an image of the cover on a web-site > and i THINK the cover has a 1965 date on it. > I too thought it was from 1966, but this seems to change things, if I'm > reading it right. > Here's the cover for All Stars #1... That's a good question. I'm bidding on All Stars #1 on eBay right now. If I win, I'll let you know. If you'd like a xerox copy of it I'll gladly make one for you (again, IF I win it!). The information I have gathered (and I can't recal where I got this particular bit of info) for All Stars #1 tells me 1966, but I could be wrong. In a related question (kind of - same publisher), can anyone explain the dating of Hero's Hangout #1,2 & 3? I have two completely different copies of #1 - one dated Nov 1963 (with a hand-colored cover) and one dated Sept 1964. But issue #2 is dated March 1964 and #3 is dated Aug 1964. So what is the explanation with a #1 dated after issue #2 and 3? Inquiring minds want to know! - Steve Ogden (fanzinelover) From mvhaas@elpaso.net Wed Apr 25 12:50:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 25 Apr 2001 19:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 30127 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2001 19:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2001 19:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2001 19:50:45 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server.elpaso.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3PJmxn16361 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:48:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <988223478.2004.20738.l10@yahoogroups.com> References: <988223478.2004.20738.l10@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:51:13 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: All-Stars #1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas At 6:31 PM +0000 4/25/01, Blake Bell wrote: > The fanzine list in the FILES section has ALL STARS #1 by MARTY ARBUNICH >as being from July '66, but I can see an image of the cover on a web-site >and i THINK the cover has a 1965 date on it. > I too thought it was from 1966, but this seems to change things, if I'm >reading it right. I don't have All-Stars #1, but I find this mention in Voice of Comicdom #5, August, 1965: "...at long last ALL-STARS is in the hands of the printers. You can start sending in those fifty-cent pieces anything at all. Eyes right for a preview of the Golden Gate Features ALL-STARS: a reproduction of the color cover by Mr. Steve Ditko." (The Ditko cover, without the lettering, is reprinted in b & w at about 3 1/4" x 2 1/4.") Seems like a pretty good bet that the zine came out in 1965, not 1966. best -- Merlin Haas From ditko37@home.com Wed Apr 25 18:08:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 26 Apr 2001 01:08:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 72684 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2001 01:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2001 01:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.149) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2001 01:08:38 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010426010837.DLCT640.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:08:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE77498.D019F3DC@home.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:06:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Ditko Interview In KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6? (Was Re: All-Stars #1) References: <988223478.2004.20738.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Merlin Haas wrote: > I don't have All-Stars #1, but I find this mention in Voice of > Comicdom #5, August, 1965: > > "...at long last ALL-STARS is in the hands of the printers. You > can start sending in those fifty-cent pieces anything at all. Eyes > right for a preview of the Golden Gate Features ALL-STARS: a > reproduction of the color cover by Mr. Steve Ditko." > > (The Ditko cover, without the lettering, is reprinted in b & w at > about 3 1/4" x 2 1/4.") > > Seems like a pretty good bet that the zine came out in 1965, not 1966. Thanks again, Merlin. Here's another question... In KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6 (1964), we know there is a Spider-Man/ Dr. Strange illo., but is there actually an interview with Ditko, as well? The fanzine list in the FILES section says it's so. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From customego@yahoo.com Wed Apr 25 20:07:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 26 Apr 2001 03:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 63823 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2001 03:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2001 03:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2001 03:07:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.98] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2001 03:07:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:07:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: A new ama-strip fanzine? Message-ID: <9c83e6+qfor@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 669 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.238 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi Everyone, I'm considering starting a fanzine that just has ama-strips. What I need though are contributors. Of coarse there is no money to be made, so it would be a labor of love. If you want to contribute, please contact me at customego@yahoo.com. I would like to focus on super- hero strips (must be in a Golden/Silver Age vein), but other genres are welcome as well. I figure 3 strips, plus a text piece for each issue would be great. I already have several text stories ready, so mainly need artist/writers to fill in the 3 strips. I also need to know how many of you are interested in such a zine? I'll inform you of any progress. Take care, Darrin From RJCroxton@aol.com Wed Apr 25 21:21:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 26 Apr 2001 04:21:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 63836 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2001 04:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2001 04:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2001 04:21:33 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.80.a2519bf (9560) for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <80.a2519bf.2818fc41@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:21:21 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] A new ama-strip fanzine? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 172 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/25/01 10:11:00 PM Central Daylight Time, customego@yahoo.com writes: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm considering starting a fanzine that just has ama-strips. What I > need though are contributors. Of coarse there is no money to be made, > so it would be a labor of love. If you want to contribute, please > contact me at customego@yahoo.com. I would like to focus on super- > hero strips (must be in a Golden/Silver Age vein), but other genres > are welcome as well. I figure 3 strips, plus a text piece for each > issue would be great. I already have several text stories ready, so > mainly need artist/writers to fill in the 3 strips. I also need to > know how many of you are interested in such a zine? I'll inform you > of any progress. > > Take care, > Darrin > > > > I'm interested in any new fanzines. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC RJC Enterprises 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Thu Apr 26 06:10:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 26 Apr 2001 13:10:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23178 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2001 13:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2001 13:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11608.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.60) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2001 13:10:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20010426131012.70430.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:10:12 PDT Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] A new ama-strip fanzine? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9c83e6+qfor@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov greetings darrin, I would like to contribute to your zine, but i don't believe i have a silverage style, alot of people say its very similar to gil kane, you would have to judge for yourself. If you want to see what my artwork looks like. you can go to the website of ultrazine@yahoogroups.com, i have quite a bit posted there. Thanks Nick Alenikov --- Darrin Wiltshire wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm considering starting a fanzine that just has > ama-strips. What I > need though are contributors. Of coarse there is no > money to be made, > so it would be a labor of love. If you want to > contribute, please > contact me at customego@yahoo.com. I would like to > focus on super- > hero strips (must be in a Golden/Silver Age vein), > but other genres > are welcome as well. I figure 3 strips, plus a text > piece for each > issue would be great. I already have several text > stories ready, so > mainly need artist/writers to fill in the 3 strips. > I also need to > know how many of you are interested in such a zine? > I'll inform you > of any progress. > > Take care, > Darrin > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From teasemag@mindspring.com Thu Apr 26 18:17:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: teasemag@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 27 Apr 2001 01:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 87146 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2001 01:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Apr 2001 01:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2001 01:17:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: teasemag@mindspring.com Received: from [10.1.10.68] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2001 01:17:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:17:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Zine sale Message-ID: <9cahbs+fa0a@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9arb46+u5ho@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 4391 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.86.76.192 From: teasemag@mindspring.com Listers, Just joined up. Have been involved with zines since 1968 and will contibute to the list w. much info. In the mean time, have a feeding frenzy with this list. Good hunting! XXX Greg Theakston Dear Listers, Get 'em outta here! No more room for these . 50% OFF ALL LISTED PRICES Add $1.00 for comics and $2.00 for books p/h. Pure Imagination 106 East Maple St. Decatur, GA 30030 COMIC STRIP REPRINTS FEATURE BOOK #9: DICK TRACY (original 1938 edition, reader copy, chips out of covers) $50.00 DICK TRACY #1 (Meets The Blank) $10.00 FEATURE #3, 4, 6, 13 DICK TRACY $10.00 ea. THE ORIGINAL DICK TRACY #2 (Gladstone) $8.00 DICK TRACY WARTIME MEMORIES (Eclipse) $8.00 DICK TRACY MONTHLY/WEEKLY #4, 11, 13, 28, 60, 61, 64, 65. 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 78, 82, 84, 85, 91, 93, 95, 96, 97 $2.00 ea. DICK TRACY #2 (Blackthorne, perfect bound) $5.00 DICK TRACY EARLY YEARS #1 (Blackthorne) $5.00 DICK TRACY SPECIAL #2, 3 (Blackthorne) $3.00 ea. BATMAN DAILIES #1, 2, 3 (Kitchen Sink) $10.00 ea. THE COMPLETE JACK KIRBY V.1-$25 THE COMPLETE JACK KIRBY V2-$25 THE COMPLETE JACK KIRBY V3-$25 WHITE INDIAN-$20 BURIED TREASURE #3-$15 Toth issue, Alex intro GREATEST SUPERMAN STORIES EVER TOLD $25 GREATEST FLASH STORIES EVER TOLD $25 GREATEST 1950s STORIES EVER TOLD $25 GREATEST GOLDEN AGE STORIES EVER TOLD $25 GREATEST JOKER STORIES EVER TOLD $25 LITTLE NEMO V4 $25 MARSHALL LAW (autographed by O'Niell/ Mills) $40 COMPLETE CRUMB V1 (autographed) $5 MAGAZINES/ZINES All Star Index (Bails) $10 Slam-Bang #3 $15 Aurora #5 (Ditko cover) $25 Super-Hero # 3 (S&K issue) $20 Masqurerader #6 (1964) $25 The Missing Years #20 (Terry, Tracy, X-9) $10 Index to DC Comics $20 Cobalt 60 (Bode) $10 Funnyworld # 17, 18, 20 $15 each Newton Portfolio $10 Flash Index $10 Alter Ego reprint #2 $10 Animato! #25 (Popeye, Harryhausen) $10 Joe Kubert Golden Age Index (thick) $15 Mike Tiefenbacher indexes (about a dozen, some loose pages) $25 Bronze Shadows #10 $15 Best Of Weird Science-Fantasy $1- Aucton Block #2 (Williamson) $15 Michigan Messenger $10 Alex Toth (ashcan, intro by Caniff, thick) $20 History of the Comics #24 (Lee, Everett, Kubert) $5 Graphic Illusions #4 (Ditko Mr. A) $20 Illustrated Comic Collector's Handbook #3 $10 Neal Adams Treasury #2 $20 Wallace Wood Sketchbook #2 $15 Frankenstein and Rex Dexter (story reprints, thick) $15 Ditko Package $10 Nemo #23 (shows wear) $5 Hogan's Alley #1 $10 Dallascon Bulletin #6 (Jim Warren's copy w. note about Frazetta on cover) $15 Whispers v3 #1 (sf digest) $5 HELP! #6, 23 $10.00 each (more issues...inquire) WALLACE WOOD TREASURY (Foxing) $10.00 MYSTICOGRYFIL #2 (Stevens, Kirby, Adams) $10.00 SAN DIEGO PROGRAM !989, 1992 #10.00 ea. HUNGER DOGS $15.00 GRAPHIC STORY WORLD #4 (Kirby) $10.00 NEXUX #2 (Rude, foxing) $20.00 ROCKET'S BLAST #63 (rough spine, otherwise good) $10.00 AUCTION BLACK #3-$20 Great Detroit zine from 1970 MICHIGAN MESSENGER #2-$15 8-pager w. Vosburg arJULIE SCHWARTZ 1989 BIRTHDAY PROGRAM- $15 12 pages of accolades w. art ROCKET'S BLAST SPECIAL ! $15 GET ANIMATED #1, 2, 5- $20 FUN COMICS #2-$15 S&K art NEAR MINT #35-$15 Dick Briefer tribute JUMBO COVERS -$15 TOTH BLACK AND WHITE -$20 EVIL EYE #1-$15 2" tear on spine. Adams cover. SKY MASTERS 1980 edition-$10 COMIC STRIP FRAZETTA-$20 THE ILLUSTRATED COMIC COLLECTOR'S HANDBOOK #1-$20 THE ILLUSTRATED COMIC COLLECTOR'S HANDBOOK #2-$15 rough spine CAPTAIN GEORGE #38-39 FRAZETTA SPECIAL-$15- 2" tear in cover and corner wear. MARVEL COMICS INDEX IRON MAN-$20 HULK-$20 DR. STRANGE-$20 THOR-$2 MARVEL COMICS (Subby) $20 ETCETERA #4-$20 Warren interview, Levitz. THE JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY #3-$8.00 THE JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY #8-$8.00 THE JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY #9-$8.00 THE JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY #10-$6.00 THE JACK KIRBY QUARTERLY #11- $6.00 THE HUNGER DODS GN-$15-corner dinged THE JACK KIRBY TREASURY V.1-$25 THE JACK KIRBY TREASURY V2. -$20 THE JACK KIRBY TREASURY V2.- $75 Hardcover #9 signed by Kirby THE JACK KIRBY TREASURY V2.- $75 Hardcover #10 signed by Kirby PURE IMAGES V.1 #1- (magazine) Harryhausen interview $20 PURE IMAGES V2.#1-$20 (Magazine) Stevens cover, Doc Savage, Clampett STANDARD COMICS COLLECTION-$20 LOONEY TUNES MAGAZINE #1-$6.00 FUNGUS RODEO #1-$15 Detroit zine w. Kirby interview and art POSTERS COSMICON Dayglow poster by Steranko $20.00 HUNGER DOGS promo poster (folded) $15.00 From ltucker@rt66.com Fri Apr 27 19:01:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 28 Apr 2001 02:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 84103 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2001 02:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2001 02:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2001 02:01:04 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm11.rt66.com [206.206.85.61]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23585 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AEA2535.3F39C681@rt66.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:04:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] A new ama-strip fanzine? References: <9c83e6+qfor@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Darrin Wiltshire wrote: I'm always up to providing a pin-up or two. LMK if you get the thing going, Darren - best of luck! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From teasemag@mindspring.com Sun Apr 29 12:30:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: teasemag@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 29 Apr 2001 19:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 46175 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2001 19:30:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2001 19:30:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2001 19:30:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: teasemag@mindspring.com Received: from [10.1.2.27] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2001 19:30:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:30:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: This Island Zine Sale Message-ID: <9chq4f+haag@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9cahbs+fa0a@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2343 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.86.79.121 From: teasemag@mindspring.com This Island Zine Sale Have not looked at this stuff in years so it's time to go. Most books show a little shelf wear. Will work out postage when you contact me. Checks and orders to Pure Imagination 106 East Maple St Decatur, GA 30030 404-387-5720 Help! Paperback (some wear) $5 The Emperor's Old Clothes (pb on how pop culture icons corrupt) $10 My Life As A Cartoonist (Kurtzman autobio pb) $10 Spider-Man #2 (Pocket Book pb in color) $10 1974 ComicArt Con program (Simon cover) $10 The Shadow Jade Dragon/House of Ghosts (hc signed by Gibson) $25 Raw #2 (Penguin pb) $10 The Guidebook to Comics Fandom (1965 digest) $20 Worldwide Classics Newsletter #8 $5 Jim Harmon's Nostalgia Catalouge (tp) $15 Art of Star Wars $15 Prince Valiant 2 (Nostalgia Press hc) $20 Prince Valiant 4 (nostalgia Press hc) $20 Boris Magazine $10 Male Call (Caniff hc from 1945, dj has small pieces out) $20 Drago (Pacific Comics Club) $20 Jose Ortiz (tp, thick) $15 Complete Terry V1 (remco) $20 Mickey Mouse (oversized, Bayliss) $20 DC Comics Sixty Years (hc) $25 CFAPA #32 (Warren iss, foxing) $25 Flash Gordon (Dan Barry tp) $15 Sab Diego Program 1996 $10 DragonCon Progtram 1997 $10 DragonCon Progtram 1991 $10 The Mystery Men Project 1993 Ashcan $20 Moderm Mechanix Jan1937 (Disney, detatched bc) $25 Good Stuff #4 $10 The Classics Collector #14 $5 Gothic Romances Magazine (Heath, Adams, Colon, Chaykin) $10 Graphic Collectibles Catalogue Dec. 1988 $5 Pyramid ashcans (digests w. color covers, short runs) Angel #1 (Gabriele art) $20 Triple Threat #0 (Gabriele art) $20 All Out War #0 (Toth, Kirby, Frazetta, etc few spots on c) $20 True Love #0 (Kirby, Toth) $20 Adventures In Outer Space #0 (Gabriele, Kirby, Wiliamson) $20 Empire (Delany/Chaykin tp) $25 Betty Boop #2 (Blackthorne) $10 Sojourn (Kubert, Wildey, Giordano, oversized) $20 Speakeasy #108 (British) $5 Flash Gordon V5 (Kitchen Sink tp, color) $15 Atlanta Fantasy Fair 1990 Program (Kirby cover, creased) $5 Al Williamson: His Work $20 Heidi Saha (Warren) $25 Graphic Collectibles #5 (loads of art) $10 Feature Book #6 (Terry, rpt) $10 Dick Tracy #11 (rpt) $10 Dick Tracy #15 (rpt) $10 Monsters Coloing Book (Wrightson, oversized) $25 Bird of Death (Kaluta portfolio) $20 Hawks of the Sea (Eisner oversized) $15 Neal Adams Tarzan Portfolio "A" (envelope shows wear) $20 From teasemag@mindspring.com Sun Apr 29 12:32:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: teasemag@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 29 Apr 2001 19:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 50118 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2001 19:32:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2001 19:32:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mv.egroups.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2001 19:32:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: teasemag@mindspring.com Received: from [10.1.2.27] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2001 19:32:48 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:32:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Database Message-ID: <9chq8s+sno7@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3AEA2535.3F39C681@rt66.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 101 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.86.79.121 From: teasemag@mindspring.com Lister, Downloaded the zine index but had trouble opening it in Word 5.0. Any suggestions? XXX GT From ltucker@rt66.com Sun Apr 29 20:01:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 03:01:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 93720 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 03:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 03:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 03:00:59 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmm13.rt66.com [206.206.85.63]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14920 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:00:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AECD642.9D83E477@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:04:34 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Review: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Put out by our own Richard Croxton, this issue sports an appealing color cover (based on a SANDMAN character) drawn by our own Gordon Green and colored by Stefan Dogaru - the theme for this issue is MAGIC. I like that Richard has placed a heavier stock paper as its front and back covers - it gives the magazine a nice solid feel when you read it, and will undoubtedly improve the life span of the mag. The two main Golden Age reprints for this issue are a hoot! If you're not familiar with Henry Fletcher of Fox and Fiction House, then you're in for quite an experience. As Bill Nolan points out in his introduction to the STARDUST and the FANTOMAH stories, Fletcher was def- initely a unique talent in the comics world, somewhat comparable to Wolverton with his singularity of vision. Both stories are well reproduced and make for bizarre reading - Fletcher's writing has to be experienced to be believed. Fantomah's main power is that of being a beautiful blond in Real Life who switches to an hideous-faced death-skulled woman with almost unlimited magic powers. And you're gonna love the giant spiders! Stardust is reminiscent of SPACE HAWK in that it has a Wolverton feel of weirdness. Truly "out there" stuff! The following two GA reprints didn't reproduce so well, but they're not unreadable. The first story is of GHOST WOMAN from Star Studded Comics. Suffice it to say that its replete with ghosts & were- wolves, making for a fun read. COMMANDETTE is also from Star Studded Comics and features a heroine of the ex-Hollywood-stuntwoman kind! She knows Judo! She wears a mask and cape! She solves the mystery! Whatta gal! The reviews of BATMAN #22, and THE ATOM AND HAWKMAN #43 by Steve Chung are slightly marred by an odd spacing problem with the text (some kind of formatting problem, I guess, that didn't translate right when printed up). The reviews make for interesting light reading, but I think Mr. Chung needs to concentrate on cutting his run-on sentences into shorter segments - the pieces would read easier, I think. He does impart the funner aspects of the stories well. Stephan Dagaru then conducts an email interview with the estimable Bill Schelly, who gives us a nice overview of some of his activities over the years. I always enjoy reading interviews with the folk who were there. The issue ends with a small-ish review (by David Luhn) of the 15-chapter Batman Serial which moviegoers were able to catch in 1943. It piqued my interest and made me make a mental note to keep an eye out for this the next time I rented a movie. The bacover features a FIGHTING YANK pin-up done by yours truly and my inker/collaborator, Bob Rivard. The repro is *very* sharp (thanks, Richard!) and, if I do say so myself, is a fine way to end a fine magazine. Overall, this is a sharp looking magazine, well worth the $4 cover price, and as always, provides some wonderful off-beat Golden Age reading. Orders may be placed by contacting Richard at RJCroxton@aol.com. --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From RJCroxton@aol.com Mon Apr 30 05:57:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 12:57:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 99893 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 12:57:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 12:57:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 12:57:03 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.93.9f73250 (3857) for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <93.9f73250.281ebb0a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:56:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Review: TALES FROM THE ATTIC #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 From: RJCroxton@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/29/01 10:02:58 PM Central Daylight Time, ltucker@rt66.com writes: > Overall, this is a sharp looking magazine, well worth the $4 cover > price, > and as always, provides some wonderful off-beat Golden Age reading. > Orders may be placed by contacting Richard at RJCroxton@aol.com. > > --lyle tucker > Thanks for the great review. With each issue I try to correct what i think was wrong with the previous. If you liked the cover on #6 you'll love #7, Gordon has out done himself. #7 will be ready to ship on May 15, I just have a few adjustments to make, plus try to figure what I will use for a back cover. If you want to contribute to #8, the theme is Patriotic since it will ship in July. Thanks for everyone that has shown interest in my fanzine I hope you enjoy. Richard Croxton TALES FROM THE ATTIC RJC Enterprises 4612 Eastwood Little Rock, AR 72204 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Mon Apr 30 08:16:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: orca_fresh@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 15:16:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 77127 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 15:16:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 15:16:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.58) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 15:16:35 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:16:34 -0700 Received: from 152.163.201.206 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:16:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.206] Reply-To: Founder@orcafresh.net To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 78 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:16:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2001 15:16:34.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B50A710:01C0D188] X-eGroups-From: "ORCA Fresh" From: "ORCA Fresh" Hi everyone, I believe that my post has something to do with our overall purpose of gathering here to speak of comic book fanzines. Perhaps a few of you are cynical of new attempts. Don't get me wrong - I'm not pointing a finger at anyone. I merely want to make you aware of Fresh, ORCA's attempt to excite and inform long time comic book readers and the novel new reader that finds us everyday. We just covered the mighty Pittsburgh Comicon. Perhaps you were there or saw our little colored printed handout of each days events? Anyway, you can read expanded coverage at: http://www.orcafresh.net Again, I hope no one will think ill of me for wanting to share something I'm proud of with this group, which I feel, are important participants in the enjoyment & discovery by others of comic book fanzines. The internet has so many good cyber creations. And, isn't that just another way of what most of us enjoy from the past and present? I don't responf much. But I read every word. My sincere best to each of you no matter when you read this. Regards, --Rick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Apr 30 10:03:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 17:03:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 43354 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 17:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 17:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 17:03:03 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.51.ad5d633 (3945) for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51.ad5d633.281ef4bd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:02:53 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] island sale To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/30/01 10:30:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > The Emperor's Old Clothes (pb on how pop culture icons corrupt) $10 > you'd probably sell this quicker by calling it the sequel to "How to Read Donald Duck" (which it is) Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Mon Apr 30 16:50:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@egroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 23:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 66054 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 23:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 23:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11101.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.131.148) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 23:50:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20010430235025.10987.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.6.74] by web11101.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:50:25 PDT Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Big Daddy Roth on CONJURELLA, before his death... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3A70574B.79AF328D@manti.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" --- roth wrote: > I wish I were still in the cmic book business...Id > hook up with ya in a hot second > > > [Image] > > > > > > > > "T. Casey Brennan" wrote: > > > All fact, I'm sorry to say. Initially, in > CONJURELLA, > > I changed a few things, names, etc. But as I wore > on > > in the series, I started called "Dr. E" by his > real > > name, J.H. Earnshaw, D.O.; "Hopeville" by it's > real > > name of Port Hope, Michigan. You'd think that, > after > > four years of this stuff hanging on the Net, that > I'd > > be on the witness stand. Since it doesn't look > like > > THAT's going to happen, I'm going after the > > avant-garde media. > > > > Best, > > > > T. Casey > > > > --- roth wrote: > > > Fact or Fiction?....Ed > > > > > > "T. Casey Brennan" wrote: > > > > > > > Ed: > > > > > > > > No, I live in Ann Arbor. Here's a story about > me > > > when > > > > I moved there (below). Do you still know > JUXTAPOZ > > > > editor Robert Williams? He illoed a story by > me > > > > called "I Love Meat" in a short-lived HIGH > TIMES > > > > competitor called FLASH, circa 1976 or 1977. > > > Can't > > > > seem to get his attention, though. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > T. Casey > > > > > > > > This is a sequel to CONJURELLA, posted at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/conjurella.html > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > UNAUTHORIZED CONJURELLA: Housemates With Naomi > > > > Schechter, Ph.d, Activist-Psychologist With > > > > "Psychologists for Social Responsibility" > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > T. Casey Brennan > > > > > > > > Copyright 2000 by T. Casey Brennan > > > > > > > > Within, there lurked the memory. > > > > > > > > But this was 1970. This was T. Casey Brennan > at > > > age > > > > 22, on a bus bound for Ann Arbor, fledgling > comic > > > book > > > > writer for the Warren Publishing Company > titles, > > > > CREEPY, EERIE, and VAMPIRELLA, hell-bent on > making > > > his > > > > presence known to Ann Arbor's now infamous > campus > > > > left. > > > > > > > > This was 1970: it would be a Tetragrammatonic > 26 > > > > years before I would write the legend of > > > CONJURELLA, > > > > posted on the Internet initially by Anathema > > > Research > > > > of Austin, Texas in 1996, then picked up > > > repeatedly > > > > and posted and reposted, with and without > > > > authorization, by a wide variety of Netizens, > > > intent > > > > on linking it to their own respective > interests > > > and > > > > causes. Twenty-six years before CONJURELLA > would > > > link > > > > our family to the JFK assassination as our > alleged > > > > cousin, Howard Leslie Brennan, with his > testimony > > > > before the Warren Commission, never could. > > > > > > > > This was 1970: I hated the Vietnam war, hated > the > > > > draft, loved the peace movement, loved the > peace > > > > demonstrators and the love-ins, loved the > beads > > > and > > > > the beards and the flower children. But I > feared > > > the > > > > psychedelic drugs, and I feared the > Communists; > > > maybe, > > > > just maybe, I even feared the "Communist > > > conspiracy" I > > > > had been told so much about, since boyhood. > This > > > was > > > > 1970: it had been a scant three years since I > had > > > > resigned, after a little over a year, from the > > > Port > > > > Huron, Michigan chapter of the John Birch > Society > > > (I > > > > had a membership card; was it Chapter 308? - I > > > don't > > > > remember anymore), headed by local right-wing > > > dentist, > > > > E. James Shay. I had joined in late 1965, at > the > > > > invitation of Thaddeus B. Vance, who, like my > late > > > > father, sat on the St. Clair County Board of > > > > Education. My parents were William James > Brennan > > > and > > > > paperback book author Alice Brennan, both > Michigan > > > > school board officials and tax opponents. My > late > > > > mother had begun this process when, in the > early > > > > 1950s, she took the position of Secretary (and > > > CEO) of > > > > the Swamp School District, Kenockee Township > > > School > > > > District #4, one of the last K-8, kindergarten > > > through > > > > eighth grade, school districts in the state. > > > Soon, my > > > > late father had a similar position of > authority on > > > the > > > > St. Clair County Board of Education, and the > two > > > of > > > > them set off hand in hand to keep property > taxes > > > down, > > > > and the one-room little red schoolhouses open > for > > > as > > > > long as the voters would put up with it. > > > Inevitably, > > > > they attracted the attention of the 1950s > > > ultra-right > > > > in that regard, and soon we were all deluged > with > > > > pamphlets from prolific McCarthyites coast to > > > coast. > > > > > > > > I had begun school in kindergarten at Swamp > School > > > in > > > > September of 1953, at age 5. But, I suppose, > > > partly > > > > because I could already read and write, and > partly > > > > because my mother was her boss, my teacher, > Miss > === message truncated === ===== http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/conspire.html#brennan http://www.popimage.com/upfront/030101tcbjackie.shtml http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm http://www.astrologyforthepeople.com/The%20T.Casey%20Brennan%20Mystery%20site.htm http://www.wynd.org/tcb.html http://www.davestevens.com/ds_harri.htm http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bar13/tacobell http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano/Casey.html http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol20/articles/brennan.html http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/2544/arq.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From ditko37@home.com Tue May 01 17:26:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 2 May 2001 00:26:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 40241 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 19:13:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 May 2001 19:13:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.89) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 May 2001 19:13:54 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010501191344.ZUQV8339.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:13:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3AEF0AC0.ED552CE@home.com> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:13:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Woo-hoo! RBCC day! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell While this kind of stuff may be prevalent in New York or L.A., you can't find RBCC issues up here in Toronto to save your arse. An E-Bay shipment came in today of RBCC #143-145; all in excellent shape. I've been looking for a copy of #143 for awhile now, cause it's a big-ass STEVE DITKO issue. From June 1978, it reprints (according to my checklist)... Cover to AMAZING ADULT FANTASY #9, 2/62 "Destroyer Of Heroes" (18 pg) : BLUE BEETLE #5, 11/68 "Stretching Things" (5 pg) : FANTASTIC FEARS #5, 1/54 (ditko's first-drawn story in comics) Covers to AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #33, 2/66; MYSTERIES OF UNEXPLORED WORLDS #10, 11/58; MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE #1, 10/68; OUT OF THIS WORLD #5, 9/57; SPACE ADVENTURES #11, 5/54 & #12, 8/54; TALES OF THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER #4, 8/57; THE THING! #14, 6/54; THIS MAGAZINE IS HAUNTED #16, 3/54 & v2 #12, 7/57; plus UNUSUAL TALES #6, 2/57. The front cover to #143 is rather...revealing! Any stories of reaction to that cover, Jim Van Hise? Issue #145 also features a 1 pg article on Ditko by John Springs called "Steve Ditko : Searching For Hidden Meaning...", with a Fred Hembeck pin-up on the opposing page of Spider-Man and his cast of Ditko villians. That issue also features a letter to the editor by Robin Snyder, whom would become Ditko's co-publisher in later years. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Tue May 01 20:18:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 2 May 2001 03:18:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 66909 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 00:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 May 2001 00:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail4.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2001 00:13:24 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail4.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010502001430.KMFS718.femail4.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:14:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3AEF50F2.2969C2E@home.com> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:12:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Woo-hoo! RBCC day! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell While this kind of stuff may be prevalent in New York or L.A., you can't find RBCC issues up here in Toronto to save your arse. An E-Bay shipment came in today of RBCC #143-145; all in excellent shape. I've been looking for a copy of #143 for awhile now, cause it's a big-ass STEVE DITKO issue. From June 1978, it reprints (according to my checklist)... Cover to "Stretching Things" (5 pg) : FANTASTIC FEARS #5, 1/54 (ditko's first-drawn story in comics) Covers to AMAZING ADULT FANTASY #9, 2/62; AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #33, 2/66; MYSTERIES OF UNEXPLORED WORLDS #10, 11/58; MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE #1, 10/68; OUT OF THIS WORLD #5, 9/57; SPACE ADVENTURES #11, 5/54 & #12, 8/54; TALES OF THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER #4, 8/57; THE THING! #14, 6/54; THIS MAGAZINE IS HAUNTED #16, 3/54 & v2 #12, 7/57; plus UNUSUAL TALES #6, 2/57. The front cover to #143 is rather...revealing! Any stories of reaction to that cover, Jim Van Hise? Issue #145 also features a 1 pg article on Ditko by John Springs called "Steve Ditko : Searching For Hidden Meaning...", with a Fred Hembeck pin-up on the opposing page of Spider-Man and his cast of Ditko villians. That issue also features a letter to the editor by Robin Snyder, whom would become Ditko's co-publisher in later years. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Tue May 01 20:53:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 2 May 2001 03:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 97258 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 01:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 May 2001 01:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.51) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2001 01:08:01 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.231.95]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010501184256.NSL2578.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl>; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:42:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c0d26e$8bc2aa40$5fe7490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: "James Houston" Subject: Fw: Vintage Movie Material, Comic Book & Strip Original Art & Ephemera, Illustrated Books, Toys + Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:36:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GREETINGS AND A BRIEF NOTE FROM ANTHONY F. SMITH, BOOKSELLER: (IF YOU ARE RECEIVING THIS LETTER BY ACCIDENT OR PREFER NOT TO RECEIVE FURTHER COMMERCIAL EMAIL FROM ME SIMPLY PUT REMOVE IN THE SUBJECT LINE AND HIT REPLY. YOUR NAME WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST & PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTRUSION) On Friday I will be emailing my first list of the year, a selection of original art, books and miscellaneous paper, all vintage & much rare. This first eList is an eclectic mix of comic book, comic strip, and early illustrated material. Some highlights are: THE ORIGINAL ART TO A COMPLETE EIGHT PAGE STORY BY REED CRANDALL; SPECIALTY PIECES BY R.F OUTCAULT, CLIFFORD MCBRIDE & ZACK MOSELY; ILLUSTRATED BOOKS BY EDMUND DULAC, RENE BULL & WILLY POGANY; ONE OF GENE COLAN'S CREEPY MASTERPIECES FROM THE 60S ENTIRELY IN INKWASH; ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS FROM THE ESTATE OF WALTER GIBSON INCLUDING AN FULL SCRIPT TO A SHADOW COMICS STORY... IN ALL A FULL FIFTY+ RARE ITEMS! This first list will be followed shortly by a long list of vintage movie & autograph material primarily from the first half of the 20th century. I am sending this list to everyone and anyone I have dealt with over the internet for the last 18 months who has shown an interest in material of this nature. In the future I will be sending periodical email listings of 1000s of items, 50 - 100 at a time: Toys, original art, rare comics, vintage autograph photos, movie posters and ephemera, literary First Editions and scarce ephemera, 60s rock and roll records, magazines, promotional photos and posters, et cetera. Scans will be available on most items. Like to receive these lists? Do nothing - you will get them until you tell me to stop! Meanwhile check under seller smithworldorder on eBay for my weekly auctions in all fields! Thanks! Anthony F. Smith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed May 02 15:23:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 2 May 2001 22:23:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 94629 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 20:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2001 20:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2001 20:24:48 -0000 Received: from 1h5tl ([12.73.230.169]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010502202447.WXMX3742.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@1h5tl> for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:24:47 +0000 Message-ID: <005701c0d345$f1140880$a9e6490c@1h5tl> Reply-To: "anthony f. smith" To: Subject: Yesterday's email Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:24:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "anthony f. smith" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Due to my own incompentence I sent out a commericial email to my business address book and failed to purge a few addresses including this group. Did you trap this before sending it out or will it appear on the fanzine board? If it has gone through let me know and I will post an apology on the board as well. I guarantee this will never happen again. Anthony Smith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu May 03 09:23:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 3 May 2001 16:23:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 30802 invoked from network); 3 May 2001 16:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 May 2001 16:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 May 2001 16:21:41 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.102.2910e0c (4220) for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 12:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <102.2910e0c.2822df86@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:21:26 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/3/01 3:36:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > > > The front cover to #143 is rather...revealing! Any stories of reaction to > It's just an idea for a cover that Ron Wilber did based on the superhero parody strip running in RBCC at the time. #143 is hard to find because the printer shorted me about 200 copies on the print run, otherwise I'd probably still have copies, just as I do of most issues from #130 and up. -- Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From teasemag@mindspring.com Thu May 03 16:17:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: teasemag@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 3 May 2001 23:17:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 22069 invoked from network); 3 May 2001 23:17:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 May 2001 23:17:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.25) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 May 2001 23:17:27 -0000 Received: from [209.86.148.18] (user-38ld50i.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.148.18]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13582 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:17:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: teasemag@pop.mindspring.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001201c0d26e$8bc2aa40$5fe7490c@1h5tl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:29:52 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Plas Arch. V2 (ot) From: Greg Theakston Listers. DC just sent me my comp copies of PLASTIC MAN ARCHIVES V2. I have three extra copies at $30 each postpaid. LMK if you want one. XXX GT From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu May 03 17:39:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 4 May 2001 00:39:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 92359 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 00:39:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 May 2001 00:39:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 May 2001 00:39:12 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.96.13aa9d15 (8977) for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <96.13aa9d15.28235429@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:39:05 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/3/01 1:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > Issue #145 also features a 1 pg article on Ditko by John Springs called > wasn't there an actual response to this from Ditko? (or was the response via Snyder?) ditko was not amused. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu May 03 19:59:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 4 May 2001 02:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 89674 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 02:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 May 2001 02:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 May 2001 02:59:14 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29744 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:05:39 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.56] (fre-46.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.56]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA29658 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:05:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200105040305.WAA29658@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! Date: Thu, 3 May 01 21:57:43 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >In a message dated 5/3/01 1:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com >writes: > > >> Issue #145 also features a 1 pg article on Ditko by John Springs called >> > >wasn't there an actual response to this from Ditko? (or was the response via >Snyder?) ditko was not amused. > >Steven Rowe There is also an article about Steve Ditko in my Fanzation #3 (1969) by Steve Johnson, same issue with the letter from Ditko about creativity sent as a consolation because he had nixed our phone interview with him cuz he went too negative about Marvel & the Spiderman break up thing as his "real" feelings got out in our phone call - when I find my copy again in my stuff, Blake, you are getting a xerox - soon, I hope -:) somewhere in my parents' house I have the original ditto masters with our transcribed interview - that would be a coup of sorts to relocate them bob beerbohm From ditko37@home.com Fri May 04 06:36:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 4 May 2001 13:36:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 44105 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 13:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 May 2001 13:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.149) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 May 2001 13:36:23 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010504133622.CNVR626.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 06:36:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF2B015.60017E53@home.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:35:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ditko Speaks In THE COMICS! (Was Re: Woo-hoo! RBCC day!) References: <200105040305.WAA29658@www.teknetwork.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Bob's Email wrote: > There is also an article about Steve Ditko in my Fanzation #3 (1969) by > Steve Johnson, same issue with the letter from Ditko about creativity > sent as a consolation because he had nixed our phone interview with him > cuz he went too negative about Marvel & the Spiderman break up thing as > his "real" feelings got out in our phone call - when I find my copy again > in my stuff, Blake, you are getting a xerox - soon, I hope -:) > somewhere in my parents' house I have the original ditto masters with our > transcribed interview - that would be a coup of sorts to relocate them > bob beerbohm Stop it, Bob, you're torturing me! :) Seriously, I look forward to it. Plus I should put in a plug for ROBIN SNYDER's THE COMICS fanzine, as the recently released MAY issue contains the beginnings of what looks like Steve Ditko coming out of the closet with tales of his Marvel days, to counteract what he thinks are historical inaccuracies. The May issue sort of sets his working premises, but he says in the June issue he'll be talking about the Green Goblin. Subscriptions are $25 U.S. (for those in the U.S.) and $32 U.S. for those outside. Tell Robin that Blake sent you, and hang on for what should be an interesting ride! Also, if anyone sent me a private e-mail in the past three days, please feel free to resend it as my e-mail went nuts, and I didn't get much of anything. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Fri May 04 06:39:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 4 May 2001 13:39:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 49139 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 13:38:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 May 2001 13:38:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.149) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 May 2001 13:38:57 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010504133857.CSRV626.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 06:38:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF2B0AF.DE928FE1@home.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:37:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Link To THE COMICS Web-Site (Was : Ditko Speaks In THE COMICS!) References: <200105040305.WAA29658@www.teknetwork.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Blake Bell wrote: << Seriously, I look forward to it. Plus I should put in a plug for ROBIN SNYDER's THE COMICS fanzine, as the recently released MAY issue contains the beginnings of what looks like Steve Ditko coming out of the closet with tales of his Marvel days, to counteract what he thinks are historical inaccuracies. The May issue sort of sets his working premises, but he says in the June issue he'll be talking about the Green Goblin. Subscriptions are $25 U.S. (for those in the U.S.) and $32 U.S. for those outside. Tell Robin that Blake sent you, and hang on for what should be an interesting ride! >> And here's the link to get Robin Snyder's mailing address... http://www.comicsfun.com/thecomics/index.htm He also answers e-mail at RSComics@aol.com SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Sat May 05 14:22:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 5 May 2001 21:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 50790 invoked from network); 5 May 2001 21:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 May 2001 21:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web1805.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 May 2001 21:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1416 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2001 21:22:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20010505212207.1415.qmail@web1805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.240.212] by web1805.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 05 May 2001 14:22:07 PDT Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200105040305.WAA29658@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg Hi Bob, Do you have any idea if that was OUR Steve Johnson? Best, Mark Clegg --- Bob's Email wrote: > >In a message dated 5/3/01 1:07:23 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com > >writes: > > > > > >> Issue #145 also features a 1 pg article on > Ditko by John Springs called > >> > > > >wasn't there an actual response to this from Ditko? > (or was the response via > >Snyder?) ditko was not amused. > > > >Steven Rowe > > > There is also an article about Steve Ditko in my > Fanzation #3 (1969) by > Steve Johnson, same issue with the letter from Ditko > about creativity > sent as a consolation because he had nixed our phone > interview with him > cuz he went too negative about Marvel & the > Spiderman break up thing as > his "real" feelings got out in our phone call - when > I find my copy again > in my stuff, Blake, you are getting a xerox - soon, > I hope -:) > > somewhere in my parents' house I have the original > ditto masters with our > transcribed interview - that would be a coup of > sorts to relocate them > > bob beerbohm > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat May 05 20:44:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 6 May 2001 03:44:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 23981 invoked from network); 6 May 2001 03:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 May 2001 03:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 May 2001 03:44:40 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24799 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 22:44:40 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.42] (fre-32.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.42]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA24714 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 22:44:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200105060344.WAA24714@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! Date: Sat, 5 May 01 22:43:08 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >Hi Bob, > >Do you have any idea if that was OUR Steve Johnson? > >Best, > >Mark Clegg There were 5 Steve Johnson's in comics fandom back in the 1960s - this was not the Bay Area "Bag Man" Steve - but rather a fellow I went to high school with in Fremont Nebr - along with Darrell Skelton, who has done comic books & strips (drew the "Dallas" TV show strip for years), we put out Fanzation. From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Sun May 06 15:30:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 6 May 2001 22:30:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 94279 invoked from network); 6 May 2001 22:30:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 May 2001 22:30:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web1806.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.49) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 May 2001 22:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13256 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2001 22:30:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20010506223020.13255.qmail@web1806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.240.215] by web1806.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 06 May 2001 15:30:20 PDT Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200105060344.WAA24714@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg Small world. Did you know that Darrell Skelton drew the last issue of my comics mini-series, THE FINAL CYCLE, after Frank Cirocco and Chuck Austin became unavailable. I discovered him by accident as he was showing his portfolio at the Eclipse table in San Diego. He did a great job on it too. Are you still in contact with him? --- Bob's Email wrote: > >Hi Bob, > > > >Do you have any idea if that was OUR Steve Johnson? > > > >Best, > > > >Mark Clegg > > > There were 5 Steve Johnson's in comics fandom back > in the 1960s - this > was not the Bay Area "Bag Man" Steve - but rather a > fellow I went to high > school with in Fremont Nebr - along with Darrell > Skelton, who has done > comic books & strips (drew the "Dallas" TV show > strip for years), we put > out Fanzation. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sun May 06 17:42:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 7 May 2001 00:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26797 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 00:42:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2001 00:42:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2001 00:42:34 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01256 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 19:42:34 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.56] (fre-46.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.56]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA01171 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 19:42:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200105070042.TAA01171@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! Date: Sun, 6 May 01 19:41:01 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >From: Mark Clegg, mclegg_2000@Yahoo.com >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >Small world. Did you know that Darrell Skelton drew >the last issue of my comics mini-series, THE FINAL >CYCLE, after Frank Cirocco and Chuck Austin became >unavailable. I discovered him by accident as he was >showing his portfolio at the Eclipse table in San >Diego. He did a great job on it too. Are you still >in contact with him? Sure - we are still good friends - he lives in Las Vegas the past couple decades - doing mural & ad work for the big casinos - he did a lot of the DC Star Trek comic books. I'll dig out his email address & you can surprise him. Darrell is a HUGE Ditko fan also. Mark, you know something I think? You should submit your excellently researched First Vs Marvel thesis to Jon Cooke at Comic Book Artist seeings how this is the 20th Anniversary of First Comics & all - bob From artistprofile@yahoo.com Sun May 06 19:55:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: artistprofile@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 7 May 2001 02:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 70307 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 02:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 May 2001 02:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2001 02:55:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: artistprofile@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.94] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2001 02:55:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:55:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: An expert 'eye' or two requested Message-ID: <9d52rd+n0a4@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 445 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.111.89.98 From: artistprofile@yahoo.com Good day all I'm trying to fill in a couple of puzzle pieces, and wonder if I could trouble one or two of the trained eyes out there to help me identify the artist that did this work? (posted on this group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Who.jpg I can wager a guess, but I'd really like to get confirmation on it. The page is from Little Al' of the FBI, issue #10. Thanks in advance for any and all assistance. From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Tue May 08 09:55:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 8 May 2001 16:55:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32087 invoked from network); 8 May 2001 15:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 May 2001 15:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web1801.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.44) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 May 2001 15:48:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28054 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2001 23:48:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20010507234815.28053.qmail@web1801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.146.37] by web1801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 16:48:15 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Woo-hoo! RBCC day! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200105070042.TAA01171@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg Hi Bob, Do you know anyone that would would want to type it into a text or Word file for me? I'd love to see it happen, but I don't have the time or energy unless this is a sure thing (I'd need the publisher's word for that). Is there money involved? I'd also love to get into contact with Darrell again. He was a great guy and collaborator. He may also be able to help me with my current projects, if I can get him interested. Thanks, Mark --- Bob's Email wrote: > >From: Mark Clegg, mclegg_2000@Yahoo.com > >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > > >Small world. Did you know that Darrell Skelton > drew > >the last issue of my comics mini-series, THE FINAL > >CYCLE, after Frank Cirocco and Chuck Austin became > >unavailable. I discovered him by accident as he > was > >showing his portfolio at the Eclipse table in San > >Diego. He did a great job on it too. Are you > still > >in contact with him? > > > Sure - we are still good friends - he lives in Las > Vegas the past couple > decades - doing mural & ad work for the big casinos > - he did a lot of the > DC Star Trek comic books. I'll dig out his email > address & you can > surprise him. Darrell is a HUGE Ditko fan also. > > Mark, you know something I think? You should submit > your excellently > researched First Vs Marvel thesis to Jon Cooke at > Comic Book Artist > seeings how this is the 20th Anniversary of First > Comics & all - > > bob > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From ogden@csd.com Wed May 09 10:44:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 9 May 2001 17:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 90202 invoked from network); 9 May 2001 17:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 May 2001 17:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 May 2001 17:44:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.4.73] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2001 17:43:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 17:43:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ALL STARS #1 Message-ID: <9dbvkr+hqbn@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1311 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.62 From: "Steve Ogden" Hi Blake, I tried to e-mail this info to you, but my system tells me it is unable to deliver to you, so I thought I'd use this list to get the info to you, as it is general enough info that I'm sure others would want to know. Here's the information on ALL STARS #1: COVER - Says 1965 Inside Front Cover - Says "ALL STARS number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street,San Francisco, California" There is a "Picto-Editorial" by Arbunich & duBay that says, among other things: "it's only been a year since we promised to publish All Stars" "He's one of the many guys that ordered All-Stars two years ago!" "We're deeply thankful to Mr. Steve Ditko who illustrated our front cover!" "And to Bill Spicer who did the cover lettering and color!" The Roger Brand story inside is signed 1964, but none of the other artists dated their contributions. There is no other Ditko material/mention in this issue. Do you know if this cover was done especially for this fanzine, or if it was something Ditko did for Charlton that was not used? Maybe someone who has issues of RBCC for this period (1963-65) can do some research to see when this was first advertised and if they used the Ditko cover in the ads? Just a thought. Hope this helps. Take care. - Steve Ogden From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed May 09 12:03:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 9 May 2001 19:03:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 36151 invoked from network); 9 May 2001 18:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 May 2001 18:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 May 2001 18:54:27 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19576 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:54:23 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.45] (fre-35.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.45]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19490 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:54:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200105091854.NAA19490@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] ALL STARS #1 Date: Wed, 9 May 01 13:52:49 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >Maybe someone who has issues of RBCC for this period (1963-65) can do >some research to see when this was first advertised and if they used >the Ditko cover in the ads? Just a thought. > >Hope this helps. Take care. > >- Steve Ogden the ditko cover was deifnitely used in the RBCC ads bob From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Wed May 09 19:56:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 10 May 2001 02:56:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 13390 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 02:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 May 2001 02:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 May 2001 02:56:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.2.116] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2001 02:56:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 02:56:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? Message-ID: <9dd003+aro9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <981kpv+3mpn@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2226 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.175 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca James This response is somewhat late with respect to your posting, however I have been really busy lately, and not really involved in the group. To answer your question, yes Raymond was commissioned in February 1944 as a captain in the Marine Corps Reserve, at the age of 34 by my reconning. He first served in the Corp's publicity bureau in Philadelphia as art director, before being sent to the West Coast, and finally to the South Pacific on the aircraft carrier "Gilbert Islands" as a public information officer, and combat artist. He saw action in Okinawa, and Borneo, and planes from his carrier bombed Japan. I may have some more info if you want to send me your address I can see what I can dig out. Plese e-mail to the following address hansen@smartt.com Peter Hansen Vancouver, Canada --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > > I always felt that one of the great mysteries of comic strip history-- > > Well, maybe not "great"-- > > :-) > > Was why more mainstream feature articles on Alex Raymond, from the period in which he was doing FLASH GORDON, or later, never seem to have popped up. > > FLASH GORDON was a SENSATION, when first published/syndicated. > > (The second film, Buster Crabbe, serial, in fact, earned a cover on, and multi-issue story in, LOOK MAGAZINE!) > > But aside from that magazine piece I've seen reprinted, showing Alex Raymond using a live model to help draw FLASH-- > > And the chapter in Martin Sheridan's 1942 book, CLASSIC COMICS AND THEIR CREATORS-- > > There seems to have been very little material on Alex Raymond, to have surfaced. > > You would think that a hometown paper, for Raymond, in Connecticut, might have done a big interview with him, at one point... Or that STARS AND STRIPES, during World War II, would have run a feature on the artist. > > (In 1944, accroding to one of the NOSTALGIA PRESS FLASH GORDON volumes, Raymond was "commisioned a a captain in the Marine Corp Reserve," when he was thirty-five.) > > I'd happily be wrong about thus! > > Do any of you folks here, know of published interviews with Alex Raymond, from ANY of his "comic strip" eras? > > Thanks! > > Jim Burns > > (James H. Burns) From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu May 10 18:28:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 11 May 2001 01:28:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 46517 invoked from network); 11 May 2001 01:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 May 2001 01:27:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 May 2001 01:27:56 -0000 Received: from storefull-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.194]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECE54DE for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id SAA01262; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAsxgzCtVS42JXcUdV00q9zdG8zYECFCc4cbZh2rGplT6EGYBZVFU7nSVR Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:27:52 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Alex Raymond Message-ID: <5255-3AFB4018-900@storefull-107.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 10 May 2001 17:50:22 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Thanks for the info, Peter! Best, Jim Burns From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sat May 12 00:47:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 May 2001 07:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18779 invoked from network); 12 May 2001 07:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 May 2001 07:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c001.snv.cp.net) (209.228.32.126) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 May 2001 07:47:00 -0000 Received: (cpmta 26835 invoked from network); 12 May 2001 00:46:59 -0700 Date: 12 May 2001 00:46:58 -0700 Message-ID: <20010512074658.26834.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 12 May 2001 07:46:58 GMT Received: from [165.121.34.220] by mail.graphic-illusion.com with HTTP; 12 May 2001 00:46:58 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Alex Raymond (FLASH GORDON) Interviews? From: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com I love Alex Raymond's work and offer on ebay from time to time original old full color strips. Too bad I'm not rich yet or I'd get to keep them. Here is a sample (not the most ornate--but I'll be putting ones I love even more up soon). http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1143394664 On Wed, 09 May 2001, porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca wrote: > > James > > This response is somewhat late with respect to your posting, however > I have been really busy lately, and not really involved in the > group. To answer your question, yes Raymond was commissioned in > February 1944 as a captain in the Marine Corps Reserve, at the age of > 34 by my reconning. He first served in the Corp's publicity bureau > in Philadelphia as art director, before being sent to the West Coast, > and finally to the South Pacific on the aircraft carrier "Gilbert > Islands" as a public information officer, and combat artist. He saw > action in Okinawa, and Borneo, and planes from his carrier bombed > Japan. > > I may have some more info if you want to send me your address I can > see what I can dig out. > > Plese e-mail to the following address > > hansen@smartt.com > > Peter Hansen > Vancouver, Canada > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > > > > I always felt that one of the great mysteries of comic strip > history-- > > > > Well, maybe not "great"-- > > > > :-) > > > > Was why more mainstream feature articles on Alex Raymond, from the > period in which he was doing FLASH GORDON, or later, never seem to > have popped up. > > > > FLASH GORDON was a SENSATION, when first published/syndicated. > > > > (The second film, Buster Crabbe, serial, in fact, earned a cover > on, and multi-issue story in, LOOK MAGAZINE!) > > > > But aside from that magazine piece I've seen reprinted, showing > Alex Raymond using a live model to help draw FLASH-- > > > > And the chapter in Martin Sheridan's 1942 book, CLASSIC COMICS AND > THEIR CREATORS-- > > > > There seems to have been very little material on Alex Raymond, to > have surfaced. > > > > You would think that a hometown paper, for Raymond, in Connecticut, > might have done a big interview with him, at one point... Or that > STARS AND STRIPES, during World War II, would have run a feature on > the artist. > > > > (In 1944, accroding to one of the NOSTALGIA PRESS FLASH GORDON > volumes, Raymond was "commisioned a a captain in the Marine Corp > Reserve," when he was thirty-five.) > > > > I'd happily be wrong about thus! > > > > Do any of you folks here, know of published interviews with Alex > Raymond, from ANY of his "comic strip" eras? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jim Burns > > > > (James H. Burns) > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From DocV@Prodigy.net Sat May 12 08:45:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 May 2001 15:45:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 54699 invoked from network); 12 May 2001 15:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 May 2001 15:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.101) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 May 2001 15:45:20 -0000 Received: from [63.253.76.147] (A070-0147.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.76.147]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f4CFjHw76398; Sat, 12 May 2001 11:45:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200105121545.f4CFjHw76398@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> To: CBZines , Kirby-l , Wood-L , Timely-Atlas List , cdbl , GCD Chat List , Ditko-L , ayers-l , COMICART-L Subject: Need Roy Thomas' mailing address immediately!!! Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:47:58 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- I'm posting this to just about every list I'm on in the hopes that I can get an immediate response. I mean "real" immediate!! Like in the next 10 minutes!! I have to over-night mail Roy a slew of photocopies for an issue of ALTER EGO that's going to be put to bed on Monday. Roy keeps forgetting to send his snail mail address and the post office closes in one hour!! I need it immediately or it's gonna be too late! Can anyone supply? Thanks in advance! Doc V. From ltucker@rt66.com Sun May 13 10:21:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 May 2001 17:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 49934 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 17:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 May 2001 17:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 May 2001 17:21:06 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf13.rt66.com [206.206.85.33]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14387; Sun, 13 May 2001 11:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AFEC355.EF66EC7C@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:24:37 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , offtopic , timely , wood , bluemoonies , ayers-l , Artpost , fanzines , genecolan , mightycomics , monstermaniacs , music Subject: OT - trying to raise moolah for San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Have mostly music CDs (Rock, Prog, Jazz, etc) up for auction at eBay, but will also be putting more comic related stuff up in the next coupla weeks (have an Alley Oop book currently), so if you could bookmark this link and keep me in mind for all your enter- tainment buying needs (he said, trying hard not to sound *too* much like the hard-up 3rd-rate salesman he is) until early-July, I'd appreciate it, gang! (No more posts like this one, I promise) http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?MyeBayItemsSelling&userid=ltucker@rt66.com&pass=JvaTSlgYdAbPs3y7uCfwn12&first=N&sellerSort=3&bidderSort=3&watchSort=3&dayssince=2&p1=0&p2=0&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0 BTW - happy belated birthday to Mark Luebker, ya old fart! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ltucker@rt66.com Sun May 13 10:33:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 May 2001 17:33:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 67293 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 17:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 May 2001 17:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 May 2001 17:33:11 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf13.rt66.com [206.206.85.33]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15489; Sun, 13 May 2001 11:33:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3AFEC635.3FCA4B6C@rt66.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:36:53 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , offtopic , Artpost , wood , ayers-l , timely , mightycomics , monstermaniacs , bluemoonies , genecolan , music , fanzines Subject: re:OT - trying to raise moolah for San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker If that last URL didn't work, please try this one: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=ltucker@rt66.com&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Thanks! --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun May 13 20:28:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 14 May 2001 03:28:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 44027 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 03:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 May 2001 03:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hk.egroups.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 May 2001 03:27:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.96] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2001 03:27:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 03:27:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Need Roy Thomas' mailing address immediately!!! Message-ID: <9dnjaj+a59i@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200105121545.f4CFjHw76398@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 860 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.104 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Doc, Roy Thomas Fax (803)826-6501 Rt. 3, Box 468 St. Matthews,SC Email : roydann@oburg.net 29135 ______________________________________Gord____________________ --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" wrote: > -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > > I'm posting this to just about every list I'm on in the hopes that I can get > an immediate response. I mean "real" immediate!! Like in the next 10 > minutes!! I have to over-night mail Roy a slew of photocopies for an issue > of ALTER EGO that's going to be put to bed on Monday. Roy keeps forgetting > to send his snail mail address and the post office closes in one hour!! I > need it immediately or it's gonna be too late! Can anyone supply? Thanks > in advance! > > Doc V. From robgerson@home.com Thu May 17 07:44:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: robgerson@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 17 May 2001 14:44:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19011 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 14:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 May 2001 14:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.85) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 May 2001 14:44:20 -0000 Received: from [24.177.130.105] by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010517144419.QDJB11650.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[24.177.130.105]> for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 07:44:19 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: robgerson@mail.santab1.ca.home.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:46:25 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Set of early "The Buyers Guide for Comic Fandom" issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Robert Gerson For anyone looking for early issues of Alan Light's original "The Buyers Guide for Comic Fandom" I have a 28 issue set starting with issue 4 (1971) up for sale at ebay. Along with the great RBCC these issues have the ultimate recording of the development of fanzines and early comic fandom. Fulll details are at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1146105596 Thanks, Robert Gerson From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Thu May 17 08:45:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 17 May 2001 15:45:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 93927 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 15:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 May 2001 15:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10801.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.243) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 May 2001 15:44:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20010517154445.52860.qmail@web10801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [52.128.30.10] by web10801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 17 May 2001 08:44:45 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Set of early "The Buyers Guide for Comic Fandom" issues To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Stump --- Robert Gerson wrote: > "The > Buyers Guide for Comic > Fandom" I have a 28 issue set starting with issue 4 > (1971) up for > sale at ebay. Along with the > great RBCC these issues have the ultimate recording > of the > development of fanzines and early comic fandom. The 1970s weren't "early comic fandom", to those of us around earlier anyway. I started sending off for fanzines circa 1965. Among the ones I bought circa 1965 were Batmania, Alter Ego, and of course RB-CC. Didn't Alter Ego start circa 1960? And has anyone mentioned Don & Maggie Thompson's Comic Art? By 1965 there were dozens of comic fanzines! Has anyone mentioned Fantasy Illustrated? I still have many of my old fanzines -- & an extra copy of one of the Roy Thomas published Alter Egos. Before the 1960s there were EC fanzines & at least a few other comic fanzines. Sci fi fanzines go back much further. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From ltucker@rt66.com Thu May 17 20:31:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: LTucker@rt66.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 18 May 2001 03:31:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 46718 invoked from network); 18 May 2001 03:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 May 2001 03:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rt66.com) (198.59.162.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 May 2001 03:31:15 -0000 Received: from rt66.com (pmf15.rt66.com [206.206.85.35]) by Rt66.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05289; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:31:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3B04986D.2B08E276@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:35:09 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby , wood , mightycomics , timely , genecolan , ayers-l , offtopic , Artpost , bluemoonies , fanzines , music Subject: Ant-Man bust (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyle Tucker Have an Ant-Man bust up at eBay if anyone's looking for one: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1146498709&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=991019584&indexURL=0&rd=1 Seller ID: LTucker@rt66.com --lyle tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed May 23 00:38:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 23 May 2001 07:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 89154 invoked from network); 23 May 2001 07:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 May 2001 07:38:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 May 2001 07:38:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2001 07:38:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:38:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rich Morrissey Message-ID: <9efpds+rpne@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 176 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.51 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Just was reported on the DC boards that Rich Morrissey has died from a heart attack. He was a long time fan,following Biljo in publishing BATMANIA. He will be missed. Gord From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Wed May 23 05:17:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 23 May 2001 12:17:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 52226 invoked from network); 23 May 2001 12:17:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 May 2001 12:17:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10803.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.245) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 May 2001 12:17:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20010523121713.90394.qmail@web10803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [52.128.30.10] by web10803.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 23 May 2001 05:17:13 PDT Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rich Morrissey To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9efpds+rpne@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Stump Does anyone know whether Captain Biljo is still alive? --- flash14221@yahoo.com wrote: > Just was reported on the DC boards that Rich > Morrissey has died from a > heart attack. He was a long time fan,following Biljo > in publishing > BATMANIA. He will be missed. > > Gord > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sat May 26 00:15:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 May 2001 07:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 49484 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 07:15:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 May 2001 07:15:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c001.snv.cp.net) (209.228.32.124) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 May 2001 07:15:34 -0000 Received: (cpmta 28713 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 00:15:34 -0700 Date: 26 May 2001 00:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: <20010526071534.28712.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 26 May 2001 07:15:34 GMT Received: from [165.121.33.123] by mail.graphic-illusion.com with HTTP; 26 May 2001 00:15:34 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Vince Colletta From: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com I have to agree with you. When I first got into Marvel (about a year after I got into DC as a kid) I must have hit it just right. Kirby and Ditko were my favorite immediately. But when Kirby only did the layout I just enjoyed the art less. When the right inker inks then the work is absolutely enhanced. Austin improves Byrne, Sinnott enhances Kirby. At the time of acquiring Marvel's after their initial release I now recall I thought the Colletta inking was not as strong as I would like. But some people's overstrong inking of Kirby's work in the 1970's and later at DC (for example) also diminished it a bit I think. Here is one of my old illoes that I think is improved by reversing the negative: http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/art1.htm (I'm reading messages in reverse). On Wed, 28 March 2001, Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/28/01 12:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, > gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com writes: > > > > Is there one 1960's Kirby book where you liked Vince Colleta's > > inking?. I think I liked his work. > > Colleta's inking was okay and only suffers when compared to his inks on Kirby > compared with Chic Stone, Dick Ayres, Frank Giacoia and Joe Sinnott. But > Colleta's work looks terrific compared to what George Bell did to Kirby. I > was just looking at JIM #101 and that's really awful. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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Click on link to get 2 FREE Books http://www.qksrv.net/click-706028-534089 From ditko37@home.com Mon May 28 06:58:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 28 May 2001 13:58:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 71092 invoked from network); 28 May 2001 13:58:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 May 2001 13:58:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail1.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.88) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 May 2001 13:58:50 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail1.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010528135849.INKT10901.femail1.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:58:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3B1258F5.3A92A0C1@home.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:56:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: GET YOURSELF BANNED (Will Never Be Again Re: OT: GET 2 FREE HARLEQUIN BOOKS) References: <9etk84+fq64@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell yhizli@mail.koc.net wrote: > Get 2 FREE Exclusive eHarlequin.com Books > > There's no catch! Get yourself banned from this list. There's no catch. And to keep this on topic, does anyone have a copy of FANTASTIC FANZINE #5, from 1969? There's a Steve Ditko article inside and I'd like to get a copy. Thanks. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From alortie@tmlp.com Mon May 28 16:38:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 28 May 2001 23:38:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 57342 invoked from network); 28 May 2001 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 May 2001 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 May 2001 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 (modem252.tmlp.com [207.86.249.17]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA01175 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:39:12 -0400 Message-ID: <015b01c0e7ce$be8f1060$e82b75d1@tmlp.com> To: Subject: Comic Strip Reprints Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:34:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" For those of us that care about such things, I have posted a number of preliminary indexes for various comic strips on the web. This is the list: Flash Gordon Reprints are at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/indexes/FG_Story.htm Flash Gordon Story Titles are at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/indexes/FG_titles.htm Brick Bradford Reprints / Story Titles are at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/indexes/Brick_Bradford.htm Secret Agent X-9 Reprints / Story Titles are at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/indexes/Secret_Agent_X9.htm Star Hawks Reprints / Story Titles are at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/indexes/StarHawksIndex.htm Corrections and additions to all are appreciated. Future indexes are planned for other sci-fi (or "interesting") strips, including Beyond Mars, Charlie Chan, David Innes of Pellucidar, Don Dixon, Drift Marlo, Garth, Invisible Scarlet O'Neil, James Bond, Jeff Hawke, John Carter of Mars, On Stage (Mary Perkins), Rex Dexter Of Mars, Rip Kirby, Rod Rian of Sky Police, Saint, The, Sherlock Holmes, Silver Starr, Sky Masters, Space Conquerors, Speed Spaulding, Tom Corbett Space Cadet, and Twin Earths. I'm always looking to trade scans. A list of what I need is at http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/Scans.htm Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 "All I need now is a computer. And a ten year old kid to teach me how to use it." - Fletch [Chevy Chase] in _Fletch Lives_ (1989) From jmain44@yahoo.com Tue May 29 12:27:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 29 May 2001 19:27:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 35393 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 19:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 May 2001 19:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c9.egroups.com) (10.1.2.66) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2001 19:27:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.34] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2001 19:26:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:26:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rich will be missed! Message-ID: <9f0t61+itcg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 643 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.200.154 From: jmain44@yahoo.com I knew Rich Morrisey pretty well during the days he and I were both members of the United Fanzine Organization in the mid 1970's. His Batmania was his memberzine at the time he was part of the group. I remember he scolded the hell out of me once for an article he did for me that I had sent to another faned who was preparing a book for me and then vanished...the faneds name was Mike Swanson who had ripped me off as well as others...anybody know whatever happened to this guy? He ripped me off for some original art I ordered from him as well as the originals for a zine he and I were co-producing. Jim Main From jmain44@yahoo.com Tue May 29 12:44:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 29 May 2001 19:44:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 80146 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 19:44:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 May 2001 19:44:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2001 19:44:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2001 19:44:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:43:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Let me please introduce myself... Message-ID: <9f0u58+o9va@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1116 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.200.154 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Hi all-I'm Jim Main, a long time publisher of fanzines/small press comics who started back in 1973 and have been pubbing,off and on, since then. My fave fanzines/prozines have been Squa Tront, Witzend, RBCC, Batmania, Charlton Bullseye, Space and Time, Alter Ego, Minotaur, Comique, Sense Of Wonder, Realm and many others. I've still got many of my originally purchased zines from the 70's. I was introduced into zines and zine publishing by Carl Gafford who lived in my hometown of New Milford, CT. Just recently, I, along with other long-time zine publisher Steve Keeter, have revived Gaffords' old group, the B.P.P., and now have roughly 16 members in it! I really enjoy publishing zines and am proud to be a part of a group with such illustrious members such as Mr. Van Hise who produced a zine I couldn't wait for the next issue of to arrive in my mailbox! I think my favorite issues were any of those that had art by Don Newton and/or Steve Fabian since I've been BIG fans of both! Okay enough for now....starting to sound kinda GOSH WOW here... Jim From jim.bertges@newline.com Tue May 29 12:49:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 29 May 2001 19:49:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 32538 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 19:48:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 May 2001 19:48:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2001 19:48:05 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:48:12 -0700 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB6C7@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Let me please introduce myself... Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:54:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Hey Jim, I really enjoyed the modeling magazine you published a few years back. What's keeping you busy these days? Jim Bertges -----Original Message----- From: jmain44@yahoo.com [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:44 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Let me please introduce myself... Hi all-I'm Jim Main, a long time publisher of fanzines/small press comics who started back in 1973 and have been pubbing,off and on, since then. My fave fanzines/prozines have been Squa Tront, Witzend, RBCC, Batmania, Charlton Bullseye, Space and Time, Alter Ego, Minotaur, Comique, Sense Of Wonder, Realm and many others. I've still got many of my originally purchased zines from the 70's. I was introduced into zines and zine publishing by Carl Gafford who lived in my hometown of New Milford, CT. Just recently, I, along with other long-time zine publisher Steve Keeter, have revived Gaffords' old group, the B.P.P., and now have roughly 16 members in it! I really enjoy publishing zines and am proud to be a part of a group with such illustrious members such as Mr. Van Hise who produced a zine I couldn't wait for the next issue of to arrive in my mailbox! I think my favorite issues were any of those that had art by Don Newton and/or Steve Fabian since I've been BIG fans of both! Okay enough for now....starting to sound kinda GOSH WOW here... Jim To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue May 29 17:05:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 00:05:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 48237 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 00:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 00:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11608.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.60) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 00:05:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20010530000549.56653.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:05:49 PDT Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Let me please introduce myself... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9f0u58+o9va@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov greetings Jim Main I have seen your name alot in alot of the fanzines that i used to read, when i was contributing to them in the seventies and eighties. Jim Bertges is a strong mainstay of this group and provides alot of insight. He's a good guy to know Join the group, we're not a bad bunch to know, once you get to know us. Seeya Nick Alenikov --- jmain44@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi all-I'm Jim Main, a long time publisher of > fanzines/small press > comics who started back in 1973 and have been > pubbing,off and on, > since then. > > My fave fanzines/prozines have been Squa Tront, > Witzend, RBCC, > Batmania, Charlton Bullseye, Space and Time, Alter > Ego, Minotaur, > Comique, Sense Of Wonder, Realm and many others. > I've still got many > of my originally purchased zines from the 70's. > > I was introduced into zines and zine publishing by > Carl Gafford who > lived in my hometown of New Milford, CT. Just > recently, I, along > with other long-time zine publisher Steve Keeter, > have revived > Gaffords' old group, the B.P.P., and now have > roughly 16 members > in it! > > I really enjoy publishing zines and am proud to be a > part of a group > with such illustrious members such as Mr. Van Hise > who produced a > zine I couldn't wait for the next issue of to arrive > in my mailbox! > I think my favorite issues were any of those that > had art by Don > Newton and/or Steve Fabian since I've been BIG fans > of both! > > Okay enough for now....starting to sound kinda > GOSH WOW here... > > > Jim > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue May 29 17:14:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 00:14:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 14578 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 00:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 00:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 00:14:18 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.42.15736af4 (17535) for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42.15736af4.28459556@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:14:14 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Let me please introduce myself... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/29/2001 8:12:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: > . Just > > recently, I, along > > with other long-time zine publisher Steve Keeter, > > have revived > > Gaffords' old group, the B.P.P., and now have > > roughly 16 members > > in it! > So where is Skeeter these days? Tell him him his friends in the Carolinas say hi! Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tenmans38@aol.com Tue May 29 21:03:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Tenmans38@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 04:03:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26172 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 04:03:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 04:03:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 04:03:15 -0000 Received: from Tenmans38@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.b0.153b3242 (4234) for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 00:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:03:05 EDT Subject: F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 From: tenmans38@aol.com I am sure that some of us remember that marval magazine called FOOM. what i am wondering is how one could go about finding back issues of it. i know there were two issues of foom that i never got back then. Mike From tenmans38@aol.com Tue May 29 21:23:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Tenmans38@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 04:23:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 66080 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 04:23:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 04:23:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 04:23:13 -0000 Received: from Tenmans38@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.10f.719a65 (4234) for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 00:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10f.719a65.2845cfaa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:23:06 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 From: tenmans38@aol.com In a message dated 5/30/01 4:04:59 AM, tenmans38@aol.com writes: << i am wondering is how one could go about finding back issues of it. i know there were two issues of foom that i never got back then. Mike >> Milehighcomics has them yessssssss.now if i can just remember what them two issue numbers were;-) Mike From jmain44@yahoo.com Wed May 30 12:55:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 19:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14260 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 19:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 19:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 19:55:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2001 19:55:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:55:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Well,If you must know... Message-ID: <9f3j72+2pvs@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 437 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.79 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Jim, You really enjoyed that modeling mag of mine,eh? I liked doing that especially when I was conducting that interview series with Ray Harryhausen! He was fun to talk with. These days I'm doing small press comics/fanzines, but have a few indy comics/mags in the works, including one that pays homage to serials/cult tv/pulps/and the adventure genres'. What about you,yourself? What keeps you busy? Jim Main From jmain44@yahoo.com Wed May 30 13:08:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 20:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 83304 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 20:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 20:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c3.egroups.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 20:08:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2001 20:08:10 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:08:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hey Nick, I DID join! Message-ID: <9f3jv7+tr37@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 688 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.79 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Nick, Hey I AM a member here! I wouldn't want to pass up being a member of a group like this one. I also belong to another yahoo club called fanzines of the 60's/70's. I'm amazed that you remember my books of the past... Do many of you attend comic cons anymore? The one I really enjoy is Mike Carbonaro's Big Apple cons in NYC. I have to tell you it's almost like walking back in time...like those fun filled Phil Seuling shows of the past. Well, except for the prices and some of the newer artists/collectors there...many times he always has golden age/silver age comic artists there as guests. I'm setting up at the next one in July. Jim Main From jmain44@yahoo.com Wed May 30 13:12:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 20:12:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 99285 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 20:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 20:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 20:11:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2001 20:11:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:11:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: To Mr. Rowe... Message-ID: <9f3k5g+id9q@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 191 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.79 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Hi-Just to let you know, Steve Keeter has been in Orlando, Fl for many years now with his wife and daughters. If you'd like, I can give you his address. Jim Main From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed May 30 13:48:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 20:48:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 93010 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 20:47:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 20:47:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 20:47:50 -0000 Received: from storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.102]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B7C2CA81 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id NAA24551; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:47:48 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQzPEVwZlh3k+zOlygjLcUi9gSx6AIVAIrv4nTUq54cBweg9+263S1DOZ2n Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:47:48 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 94 Message-ID: <9282-3B155C74-787@storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 30 May 2001 10:18:48 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Hey, Jim (Main)!-- 'Nice to see you here! Best, Jim Burns From waffyjon@execpc.com Wed May 30 18:41:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: waffyjon@execpc.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 01:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 80707 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 01:41:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 01:41:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net) (169.207.1.77) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 01:41:09 -0000 Received: from pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.2.83]) by out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V1f8V34015 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:41:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from execpc.com (d44.as23.nwbl1.wi.voyager.net [169.207.120.172]) by pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4V1dfY21472 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:39:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B154F2E.B7C5441E@execpc.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:51:10 +0100 Reply-To: waffyjon@execpc.com Organization: waffyjon@execpc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Intro (for those who care) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jon B. Knutson" Greetings, I've been a member of this group since March, but this is my first post (discovered the other day I'd subscribed under the wrong email address, and it wasn't until I checked that email account -- which is a backup in case I need to get an email out and my regular ISP is down -- that I noticed the error). So... let's pretend I just joined. I've been a fan of comics fanzines for almost as long as I've been a comics fan. The first two fanzines I created and copied had comics content in 'em (even though they were obstensively SF 'zines). The first fnazines I bought had to be RBCC (forget the issue number, but it had either a King Kong or Blue Beetle cover, although I did later pick up some earlier ones) and The Comic Reader (which was just a year or two aaway from going from 8 1/2 x 5 1/2 pages to comics size). Never got FOOM or Amazing World of DC Comics when they originally came out, nor did I get Charlton Bullseye, but I did pick up a few of those later on. Bought Amazing Heroes pretty much from the first issue until its untimely end, and got The Comics Urin... excuse me, Journal until Groth's attitude turned me off way too much. About two and a half years ago, I'd only been getting CBG (which I guess might not be considered fanzine, so there ya go) I began to pick up The Jack Kirby Collector. I wanted to also get Comic Book Artist/Alter Ego, but didn't have the budget for it. A little over two years ago, I saw an ad in TJKC saying TwoMorrows was looking for a transcriptionist. I'd done transcription work before, and I type really really fast, and I had other qualifications (like knowing there's a hyphen in Spider-Man, and being able to spell most comic book creators' names), so they gave me a try. I've mainly transcribed for CBA and Alter Ego, but I've also done a few transcripts for ComicCology, as well as some transcripts Mark Evanier needed for his CBG column. I've also had about a half-dozen letters in CBG, too. About a year and a half ago, I talked Tony Isabella into an interview... which hsa developed into the World's Longest Tony Isabella Interview, the first part of which appeared in CBA #13 (greatly edited, but still a decent piece). The remaining parts (albiet edited down, no doubt) should appear in an upcoming AE and CC (the first TwoMorrows crossover event!). We're still working on this one, actually. I enjoy talking about the classic zines as well as the current ones. One of the more recent ones I really liked is Charlton Spotlight, the first issue of which came out around December (dunno when the second issue is due at this point... which reminds me, I've got to send the dude some cash to pay for the next two issues). Working on the CBA Charlton Issues really rekindled my interest in Charlton stuff, so it was nice to see a 'zine dedicated to that line. Looking forward to discussions of great import (as well as the truly trivial... any bets on which will be the most common?). Jon -- Jon B. Knutson * waffyjon@execpc.com From waffyjon@execpc.com Wed May 30 18:42:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: waffyjon@execpc.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 01:42:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 43988 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 01:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 May 2001 01:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net) (169.207.2.77) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 01:42:03 -0000 Received: from pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.2.83]) by out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V1g2Z26148 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from execpc.com (d44.as23.nwbl1.wi.voyager.net [169.207.120.172]) by pop4.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4V1eZY21779 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:40:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B154F65.4444E69F@execpc.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:52:05 +0100 Reply-To: waffyjon@execpc.com Organization: waffyjon@execpc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jon B. Knutson" tenmans38@aol.com wrote: > > I am sure that some of us remember that marval magazine called FOOM. > what i am wondering is how one could go about finding back issues of > it. Probably ebay, comic book shows, or ads in CBG would be your best options. Good Luck! Jon -- Jon B. Knutson * waffyjon@execpc.com From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu May 31 04:44:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 11:44:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 50912 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 11:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 May 2001 11:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14404.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.61) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 11:44:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010531113334.90968.qmail@web14404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.207.66] by web14404.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 31 May 2001 04:33:34 PDT Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 04:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3B154F65.4444E69F@execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main --- "Jon B. Knutson" wrote: > tenmans38@aol.com wrote: > > > > I am sure that some of us remember that marval > magazine called FOOM. > > what i am wondering is how one could go about > finding back issues of > > it. > > Probably ebay, comic book shows, or ads in CBG would > be your best > options. Good Luck! > > Jon > -- > Jon B. Knutson * waffyjon@execpc.com > Yeah-those are good places to look. I've been buying comic fanzines off ebay for about 2 years now...I've been getting them at good prices. Those ditto zines are a pain to get in good READING condition. I found one guy at the Big Apple Con I go to that sells a good selection of zines from 10-20.oo bucks a pop! I was amazed to find one I had worked on called THE COMET(#1) going for $10.00! I wish Mr. Van Hise would do a regularly revived RBCC, the size of what he used to, instead of those masive reprintings. Jim,are you listening? Jim Main __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu May 31 04:46:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 11:46:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 511 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 11:46:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 11:46:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.76) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 11:46:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20010531112650.96007.qmail@web14406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.207.66] by web14406.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 31 May 2001 04:26:50 PDT Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 94 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9282-3B155C74-787@storefull-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main --- jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: > > Hey, Jim (Main)!-- > > 'Nice to see you here! > > Best, Jim Burns > > Say Jim(Burns)--do I know you from somewhere? Your name sure sounds familiar...hmmmm...did we meet in NY? At a lousy convention? Hmmmmmm.... Jim(Main) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu May 31 08:48:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 15:48:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 66930 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 15:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 15:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 15:46:22 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.e8.1589a4b0 (24901) for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:46:12 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/31/01 4:53:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > I wish Mr. Van > Hise would do a regularly revived RBCC, the size of > what he used to, instead of those masive reprintings. > RBCC #2 is being worked on now and should be out in August, and like #1, it's not a reprint.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jim.bertges@newline.com Thu May 31 10:27:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 17:27:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17304 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 17:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 17:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 17:26:36 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:26:43 -0700 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB6D0@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:32:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" Well, aside from my regular job at New Line Cinema, I write and build models for Modeler's Resource magazine. I'll have to check out Golden Apple in LA and see if they carry any of your new stuff. I'd like to get ahold of your Serial mag, what's it called? -----Original Message----- From: jmain44@yahoo.com [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:55 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... Jim, You really enjoyed that modeling mag of mine,eh? I liked doing that especially when I was conducting that interview series with Ray Harryhausen! He was fun to talk with. These days I'm doing small press comics/fanzines, but have a few indy comics/mags in the works, including one that pays homage to serials/cult tv/pulps/and the adventure genres'. What about you,yourself? What keeps you busy? Jim Main To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From zig@alketaje.com Thu May 31 13:58:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: zig@alketaje.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 20:58:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 77447 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 20:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 20:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alketaje.com) (65.32.151.233) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 20:40:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: 6703A284.449B6C80.3bc177db67d9435fa32ae0f53a3b06d3 Subject: New List Gives away $100 per Newsletter! 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Alan Belcher [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu May 31 19:07:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 02:07:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 80759 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 02:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 02:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14401.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.58) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 02:07:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20010601020711.51268.qmail@web14401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.207.76] by web14401.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:07:11 PDT Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB6D0@NLCLAEXMB01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main --- "BERTGES, JIM" wrote: > Well, aside from my regular job at New Line Cinema, > I write and build models > for Modeler's Resource magazine. I'll have to check > out Golden Apple in LA > and see if they carry any of your new stuff. I'd > like to get ahold of your > Serial mag, what's it called? Jim-don't bother-I'm not going through distributors- just though ebay, a web site and shows. Once my stuff is ready I'll let you know. Jim M. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmain44@yahoo.com [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:55 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... > > > Jim, > You really enjoyed that modeling mag of mine,eh? > I liked doing > that especially when I was conducting that interview > series with Ray > Harryhausen! He was fun to talk with. These days I'm > doing small > press comics/fanzines, but have a few indy > comics/mags in the works, > including one that pays homage to serials/cult > tv/pulps/and the > adventure genres'. What about you,yourself? What > keeps you busy? > > Jim Main > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu May 31 19:11:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 02:11:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 89951 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 02:11:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 02:11:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14408.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 02:11:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20010601021110.67978.qmail@web14408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.207.76] by web14408.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:11:10 PDT Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/31/01 4:53:12 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > > > > I wish Mr. Van > > Hise would do a regularly revived RBCC, the size > of > > what he used to, instead of those masive > reprintings. > > > > RBCC #2 is being worked on now and should be out in > August, and like #1, it's > not a reprint.--JVH > Jim-you mean none of the material in that first issue were used before in RBCC? Jim M. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu May 31 20:27:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 03:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 71642 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 03:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 03:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 03:27:47 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.47.c0acd16 (18563) for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <47.c0acd16.284865ad@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:27:41 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/31/01 7:13:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > > RBCC #2 is being worked on now and should be out in > > August, and like #1, it's > > not a reprint.--JVH > > > Jim-you mean none of the material in that first issue > I just looked to make sure. Only the contents page (which I thought made for a nice bridge between old and new). The only other reprint was the Gil Kane piece which appeared in my book HOW TO DRAW COMICS: LESSONS FROM THE MASTERS which I felt was appropriate since Gil had died just a couple months before. The 30,000 word piece on Steve Ditko's 50s Charltons had been written for a book which was never published. I have a similar unpublished article on Ditko's Spider-Man stories which I'll use one of these days. Ron Wilber's strip had been drawn by him for his own artistic experimentation (even Ron doesn't like to draw Domino Lady all the time). The EC fanzine article I wrote especially for RBCC #1. The Orson Welles piece had been partially published in the Pulp apa (and seen by 25 people!). And that's the way it is. . . James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu May 31 21:05:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 04:05:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 50911 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 04:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 04:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 04:05:48 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09574 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:05:47 -0500 Received: from [208.136.132.153] (ppp12.netimaging.com [208.136.132.153]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09489 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:05:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200106010405.XAA09489@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: RBCC (Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M Date: Thu, 31 May 01 23:02:55 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >Jim-you mean none of the material in that first issue >were used before in RBCC? > > Jim M. I read thru that "new" RBCC - and not read any part of it any where else bob beerbohm From jmain44@yahoo.com Fri Jun 01 01:59:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 08:59:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22278 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 08:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 08:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14403.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.60) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 08:59:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20010601085916.28149.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.193.186] by web14403.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:59:16 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] F.O.O.M To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <47.c0acd16.284865ad@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/31/01 7:13:21 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > RBCC #2 is being worked on now and should be out > in > > > August, and like #1, it's > > > not a reprint.--JVH > > > > > Jim-you mean none of the material in that first > issue > > > > I just looked to make sure. Only the contents page > (which I thought made for > a nice bridge between old and new). The only other > reprint was the Gil Kane > piece which appeared in my book HOW TO DRAW COMICS: > LESSONS FROM THE MASTERS > which I felt was appropriate since Gil had died just > a couple months before. > The 30,000 word piece on Steve Ditko's 50s Charltons > had been written for a > book which was never published. I have a similar > unpublished article on > Ditko's Spider-Man stories which I'll use one of > these days. Ron Wilber's > strip had been drawn by him for his own artistic > experimentation (even Ron > doesn't like to draw Domino Lady all the time). The > EC fanzine article I > wrote especially for RBCC #1. The Orson Welles piece > had been partially > published in the Pulp apa (and seen by 25 people!). > And that's the way it is. > . . James Van Hise > Jim-sorry about that...is my face red! Jim M. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Jun 01 04:56:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 11:56:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 84962 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 11:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 11:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 11:56:28 -0000 Received: from storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.62]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 272432D20A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id EAA03060; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:56:26 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhR+KAGkL3OX75MPPuhwsU94O0WWPAIULKjSgzqExQJex4yXavZNQQ9tv4w= Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:56:26 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 96 Message-ID: <29905-3B1782EA-85@storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 1 Jun 2001 10:29:43 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Jim Main, Wrote: Say Jim(Burns)--do I know you from somewhere? Your name sure sounds familiar...hmmmm...did we meet in NY? At a lousy convention? ________________________________ Which one....? :-) Was I with the stunning Swedish gal, or the Persian stewardess, from Sabena....? (You know a show is lousy, when you can only remember it, from your companion....!) :-) Best, Jim Burns From jim.bertges@newline.com Fri Jun 01 10:05:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 17:05:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 36384 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 17:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 17:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 17:04:46 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:04:50 -0700 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64019AB6DB@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:10:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "BERTGES, JIM" I'm looking forward to seeing it. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Main [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:07 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... --- "BERTGES, JIM" wrote: > Well, aside from my regular job at New Line Cinema, > I write and build models > for Modeler's Resource magazine. I'll have to check > out Golden Apple in LA > and see if they carry any of your new stuff. I'd > like to get ahold of your > Serial mag, what's it called? Jim-don't bother-I'm not going through distributors- just though ebay, a web site and shows. Once my stuff is ready I'll let you know. Jim M. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmain44@yahoo.com [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:55 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Well,If you must know... > > > Jim, > You really enjoyed that modeling mag of mine,eh? > I liked doing > that especially when I was conducting that interview > series with Ray > Harryhausen! He was fun to talk with. These days I'm > doing small > press comics/fanzines, but have a few indy > comics/mags in the works, > including one that pays homage to serials/cult > tv/pulps/and the > adventure genres'. What about you,yourself? What > keeps you busy? > > Jim Main > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From jmain44@yahoo.com Sat Jun 02 04:53:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 2 Jun 2001 11:53:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 31029 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2001 11:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Jun 2001 11:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2001 11:53:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2001 11:53:56 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:53:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 96 Message-ID: <9fak4i+c6d5@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <29905-3B1782EA-85@storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 611 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.193.179 From: jmain44@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > > Jim Main, Wrote: > > Say Jim(Burns)--do I know you from somewhere? Your > name sure sounds familiar...hmmmm...did we meet in NY? At a lousy > convention? > ________________________________ > > Which one....? > > :-) > > Was I with the stunning Swedish gal, or the Persian stewardess, from > Sabena....? > > (You know a show is lousy, when you can only remember it, from your > companion....!) > > :-) Jim-How about that baaad Space:1999 con? You're that friend of Brendan's aren't you? Jim M. > > > Best, Jim Burns From jmain44@yahoo.com Sun Jun 03 06:47:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 3 Jun 2001 13:47:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 88935 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2001 13:47:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2001 13:47:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2001 13:47:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.96] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2001 13:47:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:47:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPACE AND TIME Message-ID: <9fdf69+nl5v@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 174 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.57 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Hey, does anybody know whatever happened to Gordon Lisner who published the fanzine Space & Time? I'm trying to find back issues of this zine... Jim Main From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Jun 04 11:00:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 4 Jun 2001 18:00:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 77683 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 17:59:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2001 17:59:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11601.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.53) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 17:59:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20010604175939.71717.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11601.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:59:39 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] SPACE AND TIME To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9fdf69+nl5v@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov I know that gordan dropped out of sight in the late in the late eighties, after i had done some work for him. I have been looking for him as well, to find out what he's been up. Unfortunately, i haven't seen hide nor hare of him. sorry, i can't help you on gordan... --- jmain44@yahoo.com wrote: > Hey, does anybody know whatever happened to Gordon > Lisner who > published the fanzine Space & Time? I'm trying to > find back issues of > this zine... > > Jim Main > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From genekjr@earthlink.net Mon Jun 04 11:39:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: genekjr@mail.earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 4 Jun 2001 18:39:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 86346 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 18:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2001 18:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.49) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 18:38:20 -0000 Received: from Gene (pool-63.52.66.239.cmbr.grid.net [63.52.66.239]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04108 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:35:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [cbzines] SPACE AND TIME Message-ID: <3B1B9C9B.18092.1955FB8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20010604175939.71717.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <9fdf69+nl5v@eGroups.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) From: "Gene Kannenberg, Jr." Gordon Linzner is alive and well--at least he was when I saw him last summer. S&T has a web site where you can order back issues at: http://www.cith.org/space&time.html --Gene-- Gene Kannenberg, Jr. http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~epk93002/ -- Gene.Kannenberg@uconn.edu Chair, Comic Art & Comics Area, Popular Culture Association http://www.ComicsResearch.org/ -- Gene@ComicsResearch.org Comics Scholarship Annotated Bibliographies From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Jun 04 12:50:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 4 Jun 2001 19:50:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 63281 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 19:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2001 19:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11606.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.58) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 19:48:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20010604194852.44244.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11606.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:48:52 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] SPACE AND TIME To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3B1B9C9B.18092.1955FB8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov Gene, Thanks, I appreicate this information greatly. I will be contacting gordan shortly. Your a super guy... sincerely Nick --- "Gene Kannenberg, Jr." wrote: > Gordon Linzner is alive and well--at least he was > when I saw him last > summer. S&T has a web site where you can order back > issues at: > > http://www.cith.org/space&time.html > > --Gene-- > > Gene Kannenberg, Jr. > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~epk93002/ -- > Gene.Kannenberg@uconn.edu > Chair, Comic Art & Comics Area, Popular Culture > Association > http://www.ComicsResearch.org/ -- > Gene@ComicsResearch.org > Comics Scholarship Annotated Bibliographies > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue Jun 05 01:11:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 5 Jun 2001 08:11:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 79075 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2001 08:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2001 08:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2001 08:11:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jameshburns@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.10.119] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2001 08:10:57 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:10:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Simon, Kim Deitch...? Message-ID: <9fi46g+b72r@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 209 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.220.229 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Hello-- Please forgive the imposition... A mutual old friend is very much looking to get in touch with Simon, or Kim Deitch. Does anyone here have any contact info? Thanks... As always! Best, Jim Burns From jmain44@yahoo.com Tue Jun 05 20:20:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 6 Jun 2001 03:20:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 74335 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 03:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2001 03:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 03:20:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.51] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2001 03:20:52 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:20:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanks for the info... Message-ID: <9fk7ij+2phr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 122 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.207.76 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Hey thanks for the info on Space and Time...I'm going to order some of these new issues now! Jim Main From jmain44@yahoo.com Tue Jun 05 20:24:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 6 Jun 2001 03:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16908 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 03:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jun 2001 03:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 03:24:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.11] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2001 03:24:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:24:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Simon, Kim Deitch...? Message-ID: <9fk7pf+cmq9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9fi46g+b72r@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 579 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.207.76 From: jmain44@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jameshburns@w... wrote: > Hello-- > > Please forgive the imposition... > > A mutual old friend is very much looking to get in touch with Simon, or Kim Deitch. > > Does anyone here have any contact info? > > Thanks... > > As always! > > Best, > > Jim Burns Jim-A friend of mine, Steve Goodrich, used to communicate a lot with Simon, but I think they lost touch in the 90's...Simon and Kim were like that I guess...they'd stick around for awhile in one spot then dissapear...good luck with your hunting! Jim Main From tonyisa@ohio.net Wed Jun 06 19:04:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tonyisa@ohio.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 7 Jun 2001 02:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 70549 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2001 02:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2001 02:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medina.ohio.net) (206.25.226.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2001 02:04:01 -0000 Received: from zar (ppp-i22.medina.ohio.net [207.1.37.246]) by medina.ohio.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f57266226175 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:06:06 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010606215628.006ac464@mail.ohio.net> X-Sender: tonyisa@mail.ohio.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 21:56:28 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Happy Trails To You In-Reply-To: <9fi46g+b72r@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Tony Isabella Hiya, kids... I'm going on vacation next week and, since I have many things to do before then, I'm unsubscribing from the list for a while. I'll be back. If anyone wants Mid-Ohio-Con info, they should visit the Mid-Ohio-Con website or contact Roger Price at: RAPrice@worldnet.att.net I'll be back on June 21, but it'll probably take me a few days beyond that to get back up to speed. Best wishes to all. Don't take any wooden comic books. Tony Isabella ********************************* Mailing address: Tony Isabella P.O. Box 1502 Medina, OH 44258 TONY'S ONLINE TIPS A new columns every Monday/Wednesday/Friday at: http://www.PerpetualComics.com TONY'S TIPS Reprints from Comics Buyer's Guide plus new material every Friday at: http://www.wfcomics.com/tony TONY'S TIPS MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.wfcomics.com/boards/tony From porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Tue Jun 12 08:47:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 Jun 2001 15:47:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24719 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 15:46:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2001 15:46:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mw.egroups.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 15:46:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Received: from [10.1.10.68] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2001 15:46:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:46:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: British Fanzines Message-ID: <9g5dh6+s7ft@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 435 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.141 From: porthmadog2001ca@yahoo.ca Guys I am putting together an article about British Fandom in the 60's, early 70's. If anyone has any British fanzines from this period and they would be willing to lend it to me or photocopy it (at my cost) that would be great. Also if anyone was communicating with someone in Britain during this period please let me know. Please direct your responses to the following e-mail address hansen@smartt.com thanks Peter Hansen From ditko37@home.com Thu Jun 14 14:21:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 14 Jun 2001 21:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25254 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2001 21:21:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Jun 2001 21:21:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail3.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.90) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 21:21:31 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.7]) by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010614212131.CSCX26791.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3B292A0E.95CFE3EE@home.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:18:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Jon B. Cooke is looking to see if this ever saw the light of day... << Does anybody know of a NoMan illustration by Reed Crandall reportedly drawn for the '60s fanzine GOSH WOW! #2? An advertisement for the 'zine announced covers by Wally Wood (Dynamo) and the Crandall piece but apparently the latter was never printed... or was it? It's a gorgeous pin-up of The Invisible Agent holding a futuristic pistol. >> Any help anyone here could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jun 14 18:23:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 01:23:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21985 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 01:23:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 01:23:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 01:23:07 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.f2.b960ea0 (24895) for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:23:00 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/14/01 4:28:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ditko37@home.com writes: > << Does anybody know of a NoMan illustration by Reed Crandall reportedly > drawn for the '60s fanzine GOSH WOW! #2? An advertisement for the 'zine > announced covers by Wally Wood (Dynamo) and the Crandall piece but > apparently the latter was never printed... or was it? It's a gorgeous > pin-up of The Invisible Agent holding a futuristic pistol. >> > > I have Gosh Wow #1-3 and that Crandall illo doesn't appear in any of them. --JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 05:29:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 12:29:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 92705 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 12:29:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 12:29:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10805.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.247) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 12:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20010615122940.59432.qmail@web10805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [52.128.30.11] by web10805.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:29:40 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bob S." --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/14/01 4:28:35 PM Pacific Daylight > Time, ditko37@home.com > writes: > > > > << Does anybody know of a NoMan illustration by Reed > Crandall reportedly > > drawn for the '60s fanzine GOSH WOW! #2? An > advertisement for the 'zine > > announced covers by Wally Wood (Dynamo) and the > Crandall piece but > > apparently the latter was never printed... or was > it? It's a gorgeous > > pin-up of The Invisible Agent holding a futuristic > pistol. >> > > > > > > I have Gosh Wow #1-3 and that Crandall illo doesn't > appear in any of them. > --JVH I seem to remember an RBCC cover of maybe Crandall Noman. Maybe I'm misremembering tho. Bob Stump __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From kim.haney@kafb.saia.af.mil Fri Jun 15 07:41:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Kim.Haney@kafb.saia.af.mil X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 14:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10638 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 14:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 14:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO knockout.kirtland.af.mil) (132.62.88.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 14:41:05 -0000 Received: from knockout.kirtland.af.mil (root@localhost) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA18709 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from scia_msex.saia.af.mil (kafb.saia.af.mil [132.62.40.111]) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA18705 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by kafb.saia.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:36:59 -0600 Message-ID: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE535@kafb.saia.af.mil> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Fanzine Info Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:36:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) From: Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS Hi: I am looking for info on a fanzine titled GLORM, a mid-1970s fanzine from San Jose CA. I have issues 9-13 so......I am looking for 1-8 and if more than 13 were published. Thanks From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Jun 15 08:08:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 15:08:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 85426 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 15:08:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 15:08:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 15:08:29 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.e2.1638d909 (18555) for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:08:23 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/01 5:43:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bee_ess107@yahoo.com writes: > I seem to remember an RBCC cover of maybe Crandall Noman. > Nope.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 08:29:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 15:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29793 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 15:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 15:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10808.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.250) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 15:29:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20010615152903.66232.qmail@web10808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [52.128.30.11] by web10808.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:29:03 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bob S." --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > bee_ess107@yahoo.com writes: >>I seem to remember an RBCC cover of maybe Crandall Noman. > Nope.--James Van Hise You're sure not G.B. Love RBCC? Bob x x x x x __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 08:36:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 15:35:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 44794 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 15:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 15:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 15:34:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2001 15:34:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:34:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? Message-ID: <9gd9up+le2h@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3B292A0E.95CFE3EE@home.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 842 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 52.128.30.11 From: "Bob S." Can you post a scan of the illo? If I see it, I might remember if I saw it back in those days. I'm pretty sure that I have the GOSH WOWS -- & I definitely have lots more 1960s fanzines. Bob --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > Jon B. Cooke is looking to see if this ever saw the light of day... > << Does anybody know of a NoMan illustration by Reed Crandall reportedly > drawn for the '60s fanzine GOSH WOW! #2? An advertisement for the 'zine > announced covers by Wally Wood (Dynamo) and the Crandall piece but > apparently the latter was never printed... or was it? It's a gorgeous > pin-up of The Invisible Agent holding a futuristic pistol. >> > Any help anyone here could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :) > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Fri Jun 15 10:10:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 17:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 96523 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 17:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 17:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 17:10:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.1.35] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2001 17:10:08 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:10:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bob chats on about former Chief Batmanian of Va. etc. etc. etc. Message-ID: <9gdfhc+eag8@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 6481 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 52.128.30.11 From: "Bob S." Evidence that everything is connected: The Chief Batmanian (circa 1965) of Va. was Bob Lewis, now proprietor of Richmond (VA) Book Store. Bob used to have an incredible fanzine collection. I traded him some of my more obscure fanzines, decades ago. Bob also published Scratchez, a 1980s Richmond newave underground comix. One ish of Scratchez had an incredible XNO cover! Last time I was in Richmond Book Store, Bob had some incredible original sf paintings for sale. I envy Bob for his early Basil Wolverton sci fi illo originals & the original Rory Hayes art he got decades ago. As evidence that everything is connected, the former proprietor of Richmond Book Store was a Mr. Gilligan. I believe that Mr. Gilligan was grandfather of X-Files producer, Vince Gilligan. Back in the 1960s, Mike Kaluta & Steve Hickman etc. probably used to shop at Mr. Gilligan's Richmond Book Store. Kaluta was a student at VCU then named RPI. & Richmond Book Store is located near VCU. Kaluta was definitely influenced by J. Allen St. John art -- & Mr. Gilligan's Richmond Book Store was THE place to find old Edgar Rice Burroughs hardbacks with illos by St. John etc. Another Richmonder, Tom Long, published early art by Kaluta, Hickman, Wrightson ("Uncle Bill's Barrel"), etc. in his 1960s fanzine Graphic Showcase. (Hope I remembered the fanzine title correctly.) I met Ed Pippin, the first Carl Barks fan / evangelizer I came across, at Mr. Gilligan's Richmond Book Store. Another Richmonder, Mike Cody, did art for the Tom Long fanzine too. Cody also did the Capt. Space strip for a local (nationally distributed) children's magazine (Popcorn I believe it was titled) & also published a Capt. Space mini comic. I have a nice color Cody Capt. Space illo that Cody didn't exactly say I could keep but which he never asked me to return either. Cody, the lucky guy, also did some art collaborations with XNO (a.k.a. Chet Darmsteder - I probably have the spelling wrong) and with Michael Rhoden. XNO was, in my opinion, the best weird artist since early Wrightson or maybe even since Frazetta! I still wonder when XNO & Peter Bagge are going to receive the fame & fortune due their great talent, like their 1950s counterparts, Frank Frazetta & Jack Davis. XNO mostly did punk stuff -- & newave mini comix sometimes with / for Bob X -- for fun. Apparently XNO wasn't a particularly ambitious guy. I think XNO did do some trading card art (for pay) for Topps, but his Topps paintings weren't nearly as incredible as his pencil & ink art is. Cody has nice XNO originals. The one XNO original I possessed for a short while (but didn't own), I had to return to Bob X. Another old Va. buddy who I haven't seen in 30 years is Steve Rasnick. Steve was involved in N3F - National Fantasy Fan Federation. Back circa 1969, somebody else in N3F GAVE Steve a fantastic Vaughn Bode original!!!! (I'm STILL envious!) Back then, Bode was doing fanzine art for nearly EVERYBODY! I don't know if you guys are aware of it, but there used to be an Avalon Hill wargame fandom & AH wargame fanzines. Bode even did fanzine art for AH fandom. Another old Va. buddy who I haven't seen in 30 years, Bill Stone, showed me the AH fanzines. He also showed me the write-up he got in a zine AH published. I think Stone worked for one of the role- playing games companies for a while in the 1970s. Hanging around in fandom for all these years, I HAVE had my lucky moments too. CC Beck gave me original art he did for FCA/SOB on the Captain Marvel Mr. Mind serial. I have the art framed & on the wall in my computer / clutter room at home. & after Biljo White semi-retired from comic book fanzine publishing, he gave me a nice newspaper comic strip format Eye original -- which was originally published in a Marty Arbunich (spelling?) / Bill Dubay published fanzine. Forgot the fanzine's name. Wish I had kept the SF fanzines those 2 published. I do still have All Stars #1. Probably still have the All Stars #2 underground comik too. Ron Foss did a gratis color Viper original for me back in the 1960s. & Grass Green, a really great guy, did a couple stories for my newave comix & let me keep the originals. Harold Foster is the big fish who got away, figuratively speaking. Mr. Foster sent me nice letters which I still have somewhere, but no original. Steve Rasnick did give me Jack Gauguin's address, & ace Ace sci fi illustrator JG did send me a nice original drawn specially for me! & a couple years ago I got an incredible deal on Yahoo! auctions. Somebody who may or may not have been Chastity Bono sold me 15 plus comic strip originals (& 2 originals from Heavy Metal) for under $30!!! May as well have been for free! Another time (in the 1970s), I got a huge Star Trek lot, from an RBCC ad, for a very low price. Apparently a big Star Trek fanatic had died -- I got her incredible collection of Star Trek zines & photos! I still have an issue or 3 of the 1960s promo zine Inside Star Trek from that lot. Also still have from that lot a couple real nice early Star Trek fanzines with fan fiction from big name fans. Another time, I found a VIP panel cartoon original at the local flea market! I am a big VIP fan going back to searching out the VIP panel cartoons in my dad's copies of the men's mag True. The same guy from whom I purchased that big VIP find also sold me a Whitney Darrow Jr. New Yorker panel original! That seller also claimed to have originals to an R. Crumb comix story that Crumb allegedly did for & about the original _Freaks_ movie star Michael(?) Eck. I never got to see those tho -- if they really existed & if he really had 'em. The same guy also claimed to have a vintage Betty Boop cel - never got to see that either. But somebody did sell boxes of cartoon cels at the local flea market at $1 (or maybe it was $2) per cel!!! The cels were from some Shamus Culhane cartoons, Noah's Ark & King of the Beasts -- or maybe these are the same cartoon. That seller had original pencil drawings with the cels. I of course asked if I could have the original pencil drawings with the cels I purchased, & the seller said yes & told me that no other purchaser had wanted the original pencil drawings with purchased cels!!!!!!! As I'm sure you guys know, cels are xeroxed from the original pencil drawings, then painted. Cels look prettier, but cels are mostly reproduction. Enuf for now! Bob From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Jun 15 10:28:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 17:28:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 61597 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 17:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 17:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 17:28:42 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.96.15aa0623 (17530) for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <96.15aa0623.285b9fc8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:28:40 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Was This Noman Illo. By Crandall Ever Published? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/2001 12:30:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bee_ess107@yahoo.com writes: > >>I seem to remember an RBCC cover of maybe Crandall Noman. > > > Nope.--James Van Hise > > You're sure not G.B. Love RBCC? there were (was) a Noman cover -- but I can't say about one by Crandall... Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sat Jun 16 03:16:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 16 Jun 2001 10:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 80466 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2001 10:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2001 10:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2001 10:16:17 -0000 Received: from storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.62]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 749BF1060 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id DAA18300; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:16:14 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUArCjQI3gT7JZV+3TAFLIEdAq6tsICFCyQMJUfm2D55N5EkS3y2sG/2PL7 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:16:14 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 105 Message-ID: <625-3B2B31EE-4500@storefull-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 16 Jun 2001 07:40:43 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Boy-- After hearing about all those great acquisitions-- I'M envious! :-) Best, Jim Burns From jmain44@yahoo.com Sat Jun 16 04:05:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 16 Jun 2001 11:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8403 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2001 11:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2001 11:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14401.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.58) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2001 11:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20010616110508.62426.qmail@web14401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.201.63] by web14401.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:05:08 PDT Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Info To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE535@kafb.saia.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main Say-was that zine published by a goy named Jim something? I seem to recall he joined the United Fanzine Organziation with that book while I was a member...what was his lat name? Jim Main --- Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS wrote: > Hi: I am looking for info on a fanzine titled > GLORM, a mid-1970s fanzine > from San Jose CA. I have issues 9-13 so......I am > looking for 1-8 and if > more than 13 were published. > Thanks > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ From ditko37@home.com Sat Jun 16 18:14:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 17 Jun 2001 01:14:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2065 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2001 01:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Jun 2001 01:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail4.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.91) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Jun 2001 01:14:48 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.126]) by femail4.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010617011447.BZQO7002.femail4.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3B2C0463.593B83E0@home.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:14:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: DITKOMANIA Has Retired References: <75.15db9a5e.285042f7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Ditkomania@aol.com wrote: > By the way - DITKOMANIA is officially dead. Maybe you could reflect > that my contributions to Ditkodom are now all past tense in the next update. I'm writing this "open letter" to ask for help from all the Ditkomaniacs of the past almost 20 years. As Bill wrote to me above, the fanzine that brought alot of us Ditko fans together (when there was no Internet) is officially retired. We can't let this passing go without some kind of written tribute. I am asking persons on this list, who have had an interest in DITKOMANIA, to help craft a tribute to Bill and his fanzine. I ask that you write a piece on your DITKOMANIA experience, and any words you may have for Bill. The piece can be a paragraph long, or 100 words long - whatever you feel is appropriate for you. I would ask that whatever you have to say be submitted to me by no later than Monday night, so that I can add to an update of DITKO LOOKED UP by Wednesday. I'd like to keep this a secret, so as to surprise Bill. I hope everyone will chip in for a great tribute, one he so richly deserves. Thanks. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jmain44@yahoo.com Tue Jun 19 04:20:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 19 Jun 2001 11:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 64617 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 11:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Jun 2001 11:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14407.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.77) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 11:20:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20010619112011.98757.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.201.47] by web14407.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:20:11 PDT Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] DITKOMANIA Has Retired To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3B2C0463.593B83E0@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main Blake-Are you talking about Bill HALL? Bill was drafted into the ressurrected UNITED FANZINE ORGANIZATION by yours truly when I revived that group in '84. He was a member for quite a few years and moved on out. I was surprised to hear it was still going. What was the official last issue? Jim Main --- Blake Bell wrote: > > Ditkomania@aol.com wrote: > > By the way - DITKOMANIA is officially dead. > Maybe you could reflect > > that my contributions to Ditkodom are now all past > tense in the next update. > > I'm writing this "open letter" to ask for help > from all the Ditkomaniacs > of the past almost 20 years. > As Bill wrote to me above, the fanzine that > brought alot of us Ditko > fans together (when there was no Internet) is > officially retired. > We can't let this passing go without some kind of > written tribute. > I am asking persons on this list, who have had an > interest in DITKOMANIA, > to help craft a tribute to Bill and his fanzine. > I ask that you write a piece on your DITKOMANIA > experience, and any > words you may have for Bill. > The piece can be a paragraph long, or 100 words > long - whatever you > feel is appropriate for you. > I would ask that whatever you have to say be > submitted to me by no > later than Monday night, so that I can add to an > update of DITKO LOOKED UP > by Wednesday. > I'd like to keep this a secret, so as to surprise > Bill. I hope everyone > will chip in for a great tribute, one he so richly > deserves. Thanks. :) > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand > new web-site : > http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ > or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today > * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious > fans at : > > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html > * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg > / Syd Shores : > http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still > going strong : > > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ From kim.haney@kafb.saia.af.mil Tue Jun 19 05:56:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Kim.Haney@kafb.saia.af.mil X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 19 Jun 2001 12:56:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 90983 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 12:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Jun 2001 12:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO knockout.kirtland.af.mil) (132.62.88.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 12:56:28 -0000 Received: from knockout.kirtland.af.mil (root@localhost) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f5JD3BI17053 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from scia_msex.saia.af.mil (kafb.saia.af.mil [132.62.40.111]) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f5JD3BI17049 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by SCIA_MSEX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:20 -0600 Message-ID: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE53E@SCIA_MSEX> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Fanzine Info Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) From: Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS Jim: It was published by Adrienne Foster but the Welcome (on the inside of the front cover) is from James (Jim?) Crawford and he has an invite to join a Trek Fan Club on the back cover. Kim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Main [mailto:jmain44@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:05 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Info Say-was that zine published by a goy named Jim something? I seem to recall he joined the United Fanzine Organziation with that book while I was a member...what was his lat name? Jim Main --- Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS wrote: > Hi: I am looking for info on a fanzine titled > GLORM, a mid-1970s fanzine > from San Jose CA. I have issues 9-13 so......I am > looking for 1-8 and if > more than 13 were published. > Thanks > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From ditko37@home.com Tue Jun 19 10:37:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 19 Jun 2001 17:37:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 60267 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Jun 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from home.com ([209.197.173.32]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GF6U8J00.1FQ for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:36:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3B2F8D87.2688F28F@home.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:36:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Last Chance For Bill Hall DITKOMANIA Tributes References: <3ACD662E.2E514CB9@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jim Main wrote: > Blake-Are you talking about Bill HALL? Bill was > drafted into the ressurrected UNITED FANZINE > ORGANIZATION by yours truly when I revived that group > in '84. He was a member for quite a few years and > moved on out. I was surprised to hear it was still > going. What was the official last issue? > > Jim Main Hi Jim. Yes, it is THE Bill Hall, former NY to Conneticut man, former comic store owner. Issue #63 was the last, so realistically its been gone since Halloween 1999, but Bill officially buried it a couple of weeks ago. Tonight is your last chance to get in your testimonials to DITKOMANIA, if you have any. Thanks to Ron Frantz and Nick Caputo for their great inclusions. Look for them in a DITKO LOOKED UPdate on Wednesday. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@home.com Wed Jun 20 16:03:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 20 Jun 2001 23:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 69559 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2001 23:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Jun 2001 23:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail4.rdc1.on.home.com) (24.2.9.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 23:02:58 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.42.233.126]) by femail4.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010620230258.MQLL7002.femail4.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:02:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3B312B7A.BD43542C@home.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:02:18 -0400 Reply-To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: It's A New DITKO LOOKED UPdate! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Hey all. Moderator Blake is back with another amazing DITKO LOOKED UPdate! What could prompt the fastest-ever DITKO LOOKED UPdate in history? We have two VERY important news items in the NEWS section; one sad and one terribly exciting - both fanzine related! The sad is my section dedicated to the passing of Bill Hall's DITKOMANIA fanzine. The exciting is the news I'm working with Robin Snyder and Steve Ditko designing their brand new web-site for Robin's THE COMICS and Steve's PACKAGE SERIES. You can view it all in the WHAT'S NEW section at... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7437/ditko/whatsnew.html And the URL to the main page of the site is in my signature below. As always, commentary and contributions are always welcome! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From madman1819@home.com Wed Jun 20 22:04:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: madman1819@home.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 21 Jun 2001 05:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 37501 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 05:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Jun 2001 05:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 80) (24.36.5.53) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 05:03:59 -0000 To: Message-Id: <419.437062.97204062madman1819@home.com> Subject: Hey all you chatters :P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: steve Hi guys! 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Just remember its a great tool for meeting new friends or an affective advertising tool as well Use it wisely :) http://www.SellShareware.com/ProgramInfo.asp?AfID=5544&PrID=32692 Steve Get paid to read your own email http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=madman1819 From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Jun 24 21:21:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 25 Jun 2001 04:21:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 64529 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jun 2001 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.a4.15e6fd80 (9678) for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:21:06 EDT Subject: Ageism at Marvel Comics To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I saw th= e following in CBG #1441 (June 29, 2001) and it made my=20 jaw drop. Amazingly I haven=E2=80=99t seen this discussed on any of the com= ics=20 newsgroups I see so I=E2=80=99m going to mention it here. I think it=E2=80= =99s appropriate=20 since we discuss comics history and, to me, this is spitting in the face of= =20 comics history, and dismissing its importance. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 On page = 6 of CBG #1441 is yet another typical CBG =E2=80=9Cnews=E2=80=9D article=20 which is just a rehash of a press release, but what a press release! Under= =20 the headline MARVEL PLANS TALENT HUNT FOR ARTISTS, WRITERS comes the=20 following stunning proclamation at the end of the article. Regarding the fa= ct=20 that many older writers and artists are still out there looking for work, a= nd=20 who would clearly have a proven track record and a portfolio of published=20 samples, Marvel=E2=80=99s new editor in chief Joe Quesada makes it clear th= at they=20 need not apply. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Quesada = states, =E2=80=9CI know that there will come a day for me when=20 people lose interest in my work =E2=80=93 you lose your voice, whatever it = may be.=20 Essentially, it=E2=80=99s Darwinism. It happens. You just sort of have to m= ove on. If=20 the comic book industry sort of passes you by [it=E2=80=99s because] we nee= d to rely=20 on new, young voices. If we=E2=80=99re not hiring people, it=E2=80=99s beca= use traditionally=20 [their] styles are not going to sell. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80= =9CI=E2=80=99d love to be in a position where Marvel was making enough=20 money where we could say to some of our older creators, =E2=80=98You know w= hat?=20 We=E2=80=99re making enough money on the regular publishing end that we cou= ld do a=20 few projects that would be viable to some of our older creators and we can= =20 keep some people employed.=E2=80=99 But we don=E2=80=99t have that flexibil= ity right now.=20 For the future of the industry, we have to look forward. We can=E2=80=99t l= ook back.=E2=80=9D =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I don=E2= =80=99t know what the age discrimination laws are in New York=20 State, but if Marvel wereever sued for age discrimination then this is the= =20 smoking gun. Joe Quesada is not only admitting that Marvel practices age=20 discrimination, he=E2=80=99s explicitly defending it as an across the board= policy.=20 To me it reads like he=E2=80=99s saying that even if you=E2=80=99ve sold pr= ofessionally in=20 the past, we don=E2=80=99t want to see any of your published work nor any s= amples of=20 what you can do now. If you=E2=80=99re an =E2=80=9Colder=E2=80=9D professio= nal, just get lost. Even=20 in Hollywood where ageism is a given, they at least have the sense to deny= =20 that they do it. The casual manner in which Quesada makes this pronouncemen= t=20 seems to indicate that this has been going on for a long time, and he just= =20 wants to make sure that everyone understands this before they bother Marvel= =20 for a job. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From odbs@zoomnet.net Mon Jun 25 00:21:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: odbs@zoomnet.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 25 Jun 2001 07:21:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 55220 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 07:21:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jun 2001 07:21:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mclean.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.57) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 07:21:38 -0000 Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (apx-1-204-56k.portsmouth.zoomnet.net [208.31.75.205]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14469 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 03:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c0fd46$29ab3cc0$cd4b1fd0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> To: References: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ageism at Marvel Comics Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 03:12:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Dave Rawlins" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James! It's a good thing Atlas/Marvel didn't implement their current hiring policy= during the late 50's or they would have given Jack Kirby the bum's rush. = =20 Dave Rawlins http://www.zoomnet.net/~odbs/rawlins.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:21 AM Subject: [cbzines] Ageism at Marvel Comics I saw the following in CBG #1441 (June 29, 2001) and it made = my=20 jaw drop. Amazingly I haven=E2=80=99t seen this discussed on any of the c= omics=20 newsgroups I see so I=E2=80=99m going to mention it here. I think it=E2= =80=99s appropriate=20 since we discuss comics history and, to me, this is spitting in the face = of=20 comics history, and dismissing its importance. On page 6 of CBG #1441 is yet another typical CBG =E2=80=9Cne= ws=E2=80=9D article=20 which is just a rehash of a press release, but what a press release! Unde= r=20 the headline MARVEL PLANS TALENT HUNT FOR ARTISTS, WRITERS comes the=20 following stunning proclamation at the end of the article. Regarding the = fact=20 that many older writers and artists are still out there looking for work,= and=20 who would clearly have a proven track record and a portfolio of published= =20 samples, Marvel=E2=80=99s new editor in chief Joe Quesada makes it clear = that they=20 need not apply. Quesada states, =E2=80=9CI know that there will come a day fo= r me when=20 people lose interest in my work =E2=80=93 you lose your voice, whatever i= t may be.=20 Essentially, it=E2=80=99s Darwinism. It happens. You just sort of have to= move on. If=20 the comic book industry sort of passes you by [it=E2=80=99s because] we n= eed to rely=20 on new, young voices. If we=E2=80=99re not hiring people, it=E2=80=99s be= cause traditionally=20 [their] styles are not going to sell. =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99d love to be in a position where Marvel w= as making enough=20 money where we could say to some of our older creators, =E2=80=98You know= what?=20 We=E2=80=99re making enough money on the regular publishing end that we c= ould do a=20 few projects that would be viable to some of our older creators and we ca= n=20 keep some people employed.=E2=80=99 But we don=E2=80=99t have that flexib= ility right now.=20 For the future of the industry, we have to look forward. We can=E2=80=99t= look back.=E2=80=9D I don=E2=80=99t know what the age discrimination laws are in = New York=20 State, but if Marvel wereever sued for age discrimination then this is th= e=20 smoking gun. Joe Quesada is not only admitting that Marvel practices age= =20 discrimination, he=E2=80=99s explicitly defending it as an across the boa= rd policy.=20 To me it reads like he=E2=80=99s saying that even if you=E2=80=99ve sold = professionally in=20 the past, we don=E2=80=99t want to see any of your published work nor any= samples of=20 what you can do now. If you=E2=80=99re an =E2=80=9Colder=E2=80=9D profess= ional, just get lost. Even=20 in Hollywood where ageism is a given, they at least have the sense to den= y=20 that they do it. The casual manner in which Quesada makes this pronouncem= ent=20 seems to indicate that this has been going on for a long time, and he jus= t=20 wants to make sure that everyone understands this before they bother Marv= el=20 for a job. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! 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Terms of Service.=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From davidrmclallen@yahoo.com Mon Jun 25 05:49:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: davidrmclallen@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 25 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 16316 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14403.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.60) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20010625124958.65119.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.188.155.37] by web14403.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:49:58 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ageism at Marvel Comics To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David McLallen --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: >             I saw the following in CBG > #1441 (June 29, 2001) and it made my > jaw drop. Jim - yep, I read that garbage too - and to me it is another example of how Quesada is managing to turn Marvel into "Image Jr.". This whole idea of "we prefer youthful enthusiasm to proven skill and talent" is just plain sad and one of the reasons that I have completely stopped buying Marvel comics. To me it is simply one more step in the ultimate destruction of the industry. David Mc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From bud@budplant.com Mon Jun 25 11:34:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 25 Jun 2001 18:34:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 23994 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 18:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jun 2001 18:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 18:34:08 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GFI00LJV0WVBE@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:34:11 -0700 Subject: Re:Marvel Ageism, George Evans To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <007501c0fda5$6df30c50$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <993452409.118.93263.l10@yahoogroups.com> From: Bud Plant Dear Jim Van Hise, I don't get quite the negative take on Quesada's letter that you got. While I think its certainly not put diplomatically, I think that he may be sincerely apologizing to "some" older artists whose work is not a as marketable these days. Since Marvel is in such financial trouble, they don't have the luxury of using certain artists whose work does not grab the younger audience they are catering to or trying to recapture. On the other hand, it does seem incredibly short sighted to not be doing material that would appeal to an older audience, such as ourselves. But in desperate circumstances, unpleasant decisions have to be made and perhaps, for now, they figure they must put efforts into younger rather than older readers. I know the feeling. I have to discontinue certain books and products in my mail order business that I love and support and recommend...but they simply don't pay for themselves after having been available to my customers for many years. Items like Watchman, Dark Knight Returns, some artist monographs, etc. I've always wanted to be "all things to all people" and yet to be the best manager/marketer for my company, I have to make those hard decisions to eliminate these items, at least for a year or two until I have enough new customers to restock them successfully. Its odd to be in the position of defending Marvel, since they have been universally idiotic in many of their big decisions in the past years, but I just thought I'd offer this different spin. Re: George Evans, I hope that we can see some thorough retrospectives on his work to honor him, perhaps in the rebirthed CBM and from TwoMorrows and even you, Jim, in the new RBCC magazine. He is one of my favorite artists. His EC work was often overshadowed by Williamson, Wood and others, but like Reed Crandall, Jack Davis and Johnny Craig, he was a consumate creator who always could deliver a superbly crafted story. I loved buying some of his original EC stories as Russ Cochran was auctioning them a few years ago. Gorgeous, wondrous work, from his forte, bi-planes tales in Aces High, to stunning covers and stories in later Shock Suspense issues. And his Fawcett pre-code work for titles like This Magazine is Haunted is just gorgeous, as well as his many stories from Fiction House titles like Planet and Wings, in the late 1940s. Go with God, George. Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Jun 25 15:20:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 25 Jun 2001 22:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 33691 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 22:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2001 22:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m10.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.165) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 22:20:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.9c.fe2bbb9 (4215) for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9c.fe2bbb9.28691337@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:20:39 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re:Marvel Ageism, George Evans To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/25/01 2:13:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bud@budplant.com writes: > I hope that we can see some thorough retrospectives on > his work to honor him, perhaps in the rebirthed CBM and from TwoMorrows and > even you, Jim, in the new RBCC magazine. He is one of my favorite artists. > His EC work was often overshadowed by Williamson, Wood and others, but like > Reed Crandall, Jack Davis and Johnny Craig, he was a consumate creator who > Well, I was planning material on EC in RBCC #3 anyway (although that's some months away. #2 will be out in August). -- Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Mon Jun 25 21:25:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 Jun 2001 04:25:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9598 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2001 04:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jun 2001 04:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO seagoon.newcastle.edu.au) (134.148.24.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2001 04:25:39 -0000 Received: from banerjee (banerjee.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.4.49]) by mail.newcastle.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #35875) with ESMTP id <0GFI00MDISAGS9@mail.newcastle.edu.au> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:25:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from studentmail.newcastle.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by banerjee.newcastle.edu.au (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GFI00A9XSAF1N@banerjee.newcastle.edu.au> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:25:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from [202.138.54.147] by banerjee.newcastle.edu.au (mshttpd); Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:25:27 +1000 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:25:27 +1000 Subject: "Star Studded Comics" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <470e044c85.44c85470e0@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en From: JEREMY PETER MACPHERSON Does anyone have any copies of a Texas zine called "Star Studded Comics"? Especially #13? Thanks in advance for any assistance. -- Jeremy From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Jun 26 03:00:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 Jun 2001 10:00:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 82862 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2001 10:00:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jun 2001 10:00:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2001 10:00:26 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.d5.83ef74c (8233) for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:00:16 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/26/2001 2:02:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au writes: > Does anyone have any copies of a Texas zine called "Star Studded > Comics"? Especially #13? > > i probably have about 2/3 of a complete Star Studded comics collection. It was one of the first photo-offset fanzines. For those who don't know, SSC was all "ama" comics... no idea what numbers - do know that I don't have the last issue (which was all sword and sorcery comics) Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Jun 26 10:07:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 Jun 2001 17:06:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 42680 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2001 17:06:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jun 2001 17:06:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2001 17:06:54 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24973 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:06:53 -0500 Received: from [208.136.132.178] (ppp37.netimaging.com [208.136.132.178]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24887 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:06:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200106261706.MAA24887@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 01 12:07:13 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: "Bob's Email" >i probably have about 2/3 of a complete Star Studded comics collection. It >was one of the first photo-offset fanzines. For those who don't know, SSC >was all "ama" comics... > no idea what numbers - do know that I don't have the last issue (which >was all sword and sorcery comics) >Steven Rowe That last issue was published by Joe Bob Williams, if I remember correctly bob beerbohm From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Tue Jun 26 15:43:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 Jun 2001 22:43:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 15315 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2001 22:43:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Jun 2001 22:43:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2001 22:43:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Received: from [10.1.10.105] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2001 22:43:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:43:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9hb36c+j4d6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200106261706.MAA24887@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 117 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 202.138.54.97 From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au The reason I'm looking for #13 is that it has an article on Stanley Pitt. Does anyone know who wrote this article? From JerryBails@aol.com Wed Jun 27 09:28:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 27 Jun 2001 16:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 42941 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 16:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jun 2001 16:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.33) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 16:28:03 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.6.) id r.a6.15e6433b (4217) for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:27:56 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 6/27/01 1:57:31 AM, jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au writes: << The reason I'm looking for #13 is that it has an article on Stanley Pitt. Does anyone know who wrote this article? >> Was that my old friend John Ryan of Australia? At that point, he would've our principle sources of the Pitts. You may find John's book Down Under covers the Pitts pretty well, as I recall. My copy is in the basement, but I could scan any Pitt material for you, if you wish. Bestest, Jerry From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 04:51:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 28 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 86426 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mk.egroups.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.101] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2001 11:51:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:51:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Charlton Bullseye... Message-ID: <9hf5oo+n38u@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 163 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.12.106.38 From: jmain44@yahoo.com Hey gang..can somebody out there tell me how many issues there were of the Charlton Bullseye fan pub.? Thanks... Jim M. From fiawol@aol.com Thu Jun 28 10:03:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fiawol@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 28 Jun 2001 17:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 20596 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 17:01:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Jun 2001 17:01:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 17:01:22 -0000 Received: from Fiawol@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.6.) id r.f7.bf400fa (1814) for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:01:06 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Charlton Bullseye... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 From: fiawol@aol.com In a message dated 6/28/01 8:04:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > Hey gang..can somebody out there tell me how many issues there were > of the Charlton Bullseye fan pub.? > I'm fairly certain there were 5 issues of the magazine sized "fan" publication that had access to quite a bit of Charlton inventory art. That's all I've ever seen anyway, maybe someone else can correct me. Dave M. From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu Jun 28 11:20:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 28 Jun 2001 18:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 31876 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 18:20:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Jun 2001 18:20:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14407.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.77) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 18:20:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20010628182005.58447.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.204.59] by web14407.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:20:05 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Charlton Bullseye... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Main Dave-Thanks a lot for the info! It's appreciated! Jim --- fiawol@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/28/01 8:04:22 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > jmain44@yahoo.com writes: > > > Hey gang..can somebody out there tell me how many > issues there were > > of the Charlton Bullseye fan pub.? > > > I'm fairly certain there were 5 issues of the > magazine sized "fan" > publication that had access to quite a bit of > Charlton inventory art. That's > all I've ever seen anyway, maybe someone else can > correct me. > > Dave M. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Thu Jun 28 21:17:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 97770 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Received: from [10.1.10.63] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:17:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9hgvhd+4vto@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 491 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 202.138.54.97 From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > Was that my old friend John Ryan of Australia? At that point, he > would've our principle sources of the Pitts. You may find John's > book Down Under covers the Pitts pretty well, as I recall. My copy > is in the basement, but I could scan any Pitt material for you, if > you wish. Hi Jerry You knew John Ryan? Wow! He's legendary here in Australia. I'd be very grateful for ANY Pitt scans at all. Thanks! -- Jeremy From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Jun 28 22:04:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jun 2001 05:04:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 32765 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 05:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 05:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 05:04:48 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.6.) id r.d1.8ac80c0 (4263) for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:04:39 EDT Subject: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 6/29/01 12:18:16 AM, jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au writes: << --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > Was that my old friend John Ryan of Australia? At that point, he > would've our principle sources of the Pitts. You may find John's > book Down Under covers the Pitts pretty well, as I recall. My copy > is in the basement, but I could scan any Pitt material for you, if > you wish. Hi Jerry You knew John Ryan? Wow! He's legendary here in Australia. I'd be very grateful for ANY Pitt scans at all. Thanks! -- Jeremy >> Yes, John Ryan and I were good correspondents in the 1960s. He and John Wright of South Africa both produced early comics fanzines that I helped to circulate in the United States. Wright's was THE KOMIX (July 1962). Ryan's was DOWN UNDER (Dec. 1963). [You may have noticed that I confused the title of his fanzine, Down Under, with the title of his book, Panel by Panel. Sorry about that.] John Ryan was among the first to adopt the term I coined for us as hobbyists. The drawing of John on the dust jacket of his Panel By Panel (autographed to me on Nov. 6, 1969, the year of publication) shows him at his desk with the identification next to his typewriter "JOHN RYAN - PANELOLOGIST" My British friends also adopted the term "Panelologist" as the name of one of their fanzines, but the term never caught on here in America. It was something of a linguist joke, combining Latin and Greek roots (a "no-no" except that it was also done in naming the Australopithicines, horror of horrors). It was to show that comics enthusiasts can be as hifalutin as numismatists and philatelists. I have prepared 3 Stanley Pitt scans for you (coming with a separate personal post): Silver Starr from Silver Starr Comics #1 1949 Gully Foyle previously unpublished from 1957 Capt. Power from the Sunday Herald, July 1949 I used to have a great collection of Air Hawks, The Raven and Australian Phantom comics. Enjoy. Bestest, Jerry From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Thu Jun 28 22:19:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13390 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 05:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 05:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 05:19:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.10.119] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2001 05:19:55 -0000 Date: 29 Jun 2001 05:19:52 -0000 Message-ID: <993791992.246043.46228.fd@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Notify: From: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines group. File : /0 HERO 4.jpg Uploaded by : flash14221@yahoo.com Description : HERO by John Ryan You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/0%20HERO%204.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, flash14221@yahoo.com From hansen@smartt.com Fri Jun 29 09:10:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jun 2001 16:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 96027 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 16:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 16:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 16:09:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: hansen@smartt.com Received: from [10.1.4.67] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2001 16:09:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:09:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9hi97g+k68e@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3870 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.52.2.119 From: hansen@smartt.com Hey Jerry/Jeremy The great Stan Pitt is still alive and still working, though not a lot these days. He has spent the last 50 years working on covers for western comics and western books. I have been working on an article about Stan for a few months now because I think he should be remembered for his accomplishments in Oz. I have a spare copy of John Ryan's book if you are interested Jeremy as I recently acquired Denis Giffor'd copy at auction, which is also signed by John. If you still have any copies of Down Under Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living in South Africa. I have some editions of the Silver Star reprints done in the 1950's, some Yarmaks, and Pitt's first comic called Anthony Fury if you want copies Jeremy let me know. Also a guy called Bryon Whitworth in France has some excellent reproductions of Silver Star that he sells. In addition to the Pitt article in Star Studded #13, John Ryan also did an article about Pitt in Sense of Wonder #12, where he reproduced quite a bit of Bester's Gully Foyle artwork, and went into great detail about how the American publisher's shafted Pitt in the 60's when he was trying to get the strip syndicated. Also a renegade Canadian did a great job of illegaly reproducing Pitt's Silver Star stuff in Captain Georges Comic World #80. Pitt also did a couple of pieces for Dc in teh early 1970's, and he also ghosted on Secret Agent Corrigan in the 1960's. Let me know if I can help. Peter Hansen Vancouver, Canada ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 6/29/01 12:18:16 AM, > jeremy.macpherson@s... writes: > > << --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > > Was that my old friend John Ryan of Australia? At that point, he > > would've our principle sources of the Pitts. You may find John's > > book Down Under covers the Pitts pretty well, as I recall. My copy > > is in the basement, but I could scan any Pitt material for you, if > > you wish. > > > Hi Jerry > > You knew John Ryan? Wow! He's legendary here in Australia. I'd be > very grateful for ANY Pitt scans at all. Thanks! > > -- > > Jeremy > > >> > > Yes, John Ryan and I were good correspondents in the 1960s. He and John > Wright of South Africa both produced early comics fanzines that I helped to > circulate in the United States. Wright's was THE KOMIX (July 1962). Ryan's > was DOWN UNDER (Dec. 1963). [You may have noticed that I confused the title > of his fanzine, Down Under, with the title of his book, Panel by Panel. Sorry > about that.] > > John Ryan was among the first to adopt the term I coined for us as hobbyists. > The drawing of John on the dust jacket of his Panel By Panel (autographed to > me on Nov. 6, 1969, the year of publication) shows him at his desk with the > identification next to his typewriter "JOHN RYAN - PANELOLOGIST" > > My British friends also adopted the term "Panelologist" as the name of one of > their fanzines, but the term never caught on here in America. It was > something of a linguist joke, combining Latin and Greek roots (a "no-no" > except that it was also done in naming the Australopithicines, horror of > horrors). It was to show that comics enthusiasts can be as hifalutin as > numismatists and philatelists. > > I have prepared 3 Stanley Pitt scans for you (coming with a separate personal > post): > Silver Starr from Silver Starr Comics #1 1949 > Gully Foyle previously unpublished from 1957 > Capt. Power from the Sunday Herald, July 1949 > > I used to have a great collection of Air Hawks, The Raven and Australian > Phantom comics. > > Enjoy. > > Bestest, > > Jerry From GaryB98294@aol.com Fri Jun 29 10:04:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jun 2001 17:04:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 54705 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.6f.17645f45 (4050) for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f.17645f45.286e0ee3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:03:31 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: GaryB98294@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was fortunate to have been in CAPA-alpha with John Ryan and a correspondent. While I was publishing the newszine Comic Comments and Comixscene, John sent me the presentation portfolio Stan Pitt did for Gully Foyle. Beautiful stuff. Gary Brown [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Jun 29 12:05:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jun 2001 19:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 66958 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2001 19:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2001 19:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 19:04:47 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.cc.171a29ad (4214) for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:04:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 6/29/01 12:16:46 PM, hansen@smartt.com writes: << If you still have any copies of Down Under Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living in South Africa. ... Peter Hansen Vancouver, Canada ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? >> I don't think my collection of early fanzines survived several moves and related problems over the years. I'll look for them next time I go through the boxes in the basement. Someone on this list may have acquired my early fanzines in one of my weaker moments. Detroit helped blow out my candles, celelebrating with Windsor, Canada the 300th anniversary of the founding of Detroit. A million people gathered to watch our annual, bi-national Marshall Field's Fireworks Display on the river between Detroit & Windsor. The celebration was set a little earlier this year than usual, so we have another week before the cake cools enough to serve. Have a nice holiday on the First. Bestest, Jerry From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Sun Jul 01 20:49:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Jul 2001 03:49:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 59317 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2001 03:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Jul 2001 03:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jul 2001 03:49:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Received: from [10.1.2.116] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2001 03:49:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 03:49:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9hor0o+gu83@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9hi97g+k68e@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2954 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 202.138.54.67 From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Hi Peter, Yes, it's a great shame that Stanley Pitt hasn't yet received the recogition he deserves here in Australia. One possible reason for this is that he was not allowed to sign the western covers he did for such a long time at Cleveland Publishing. However, with the official "Stanley Pitt Gallery" currently being constructed hopefully this will soon change. That's very interesting to hear about your article. I'm actually collecting information at the moment for an interview Stanley has agreed to participate in. I've found the Sense of Wonder article and also have a brilliant interview from an Australian fanzine called SCIENCE FICTION. Do you have that one? Also, do you know of any other sources of information on Stan Pitt? I've heard that the National Library of Australia has a large recorded interview conducted as part of the 'Australian Cartoonists and Illustrators Oral History Project' but unfortunately this is not allowed to be used outside the library. Do you have Anthony Fury for sale? I'd love to buy it, but the current state of our currency would probably put it way out of my price range. -- Jeremy --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., hansen@s... wrote: > Hey Jerry/Jeremy > > The great Stan Pitt is still alive and still working, though not a > lot these days. He has spent the last 50 years working on covers > for western comics and western books. I have been working on an > article about Stan for a few months now because I think he should > be remembered for his accomplishments in Oz. > > I have a spare copy of John Ryan's book if you are interested > Jeremy as I recently acquired Denis Giffor'd copy at auction, which > is also signed by John. If you still have any copies of Down Under > Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John > Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living > in South Africa. > > I have some editions of the Silver Star reprints done in the > 1950's, some Yarmaks, and Pitt's first comic called Anthony Fury > if you want copies Jeremy let me know. Also a guy called Bryon > Whitworth in France has some excellent reproductions of Silver Star > that he sells. > > In addition to the Pitt article in Star Studded #13, John Ryan also > did an article about Pitt in Sense of Wonder #12, where he > reproduced quite a bit of Bester's Gully Foyle artwork, and went > into great detail about how the American publisher's shafted Pitt > in the 60's when he was trying to get the strip syndicated. Also a > renegade Canadian did a great job of illegaly reproducing Pitt's > Silver Star stuff in Captain Georges Comic World #80. Pitt also > did a couple of pieces for Dc in teh early 1970's, and he also > ghosted on Secret Agent Corrigan in the 1960's. > > Let me know if I can help. > > Peter Hansen > Vancouver, Canada > > ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? > > From JerryBails@aol.com Sun Jul 01 21:50:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Jul 2001 04:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 72418 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2001 04:50:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Jul 2001 04:50:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jul 2001 04:50:11 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.6b.169305b3 (18409) for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6b.169305b3.2871577c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:50:04 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Jeremy, Did you get the 3 Pitt scans I sent and were you able to view them? Bestest, Jerry ----- In a message dated 7/2/01 12:13:03 AM, jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au writes: << Hi Peter, Yes, it's a great shame that Stanley Pitt hasn't yet received the recogition he deserves here in Australia. One possible reason for this is that he was not allowed to sign the western covers he did for such a long time at Cleveland Publishing. However, with the official "Stanley Pitt Gallery" currently being constructed hopefully this will soon change. That's very interesting to hear about your article. I'm actually collecting information at the moment for an interview Stanley has agreed to participate in. I've found the Sense of Wonder article and also have a brilliant interview from an Australian fanzine called SCIENCE FICTION. Do you have that one? Also, do you know of any other sources of information on Stan Pitt? I've heard that the National Library of Australia has a large recorded interview conducted as part of the 'Australian Cartoonists and Illustrators Oral History Project' but unfortunately this is not allowed to be used outside the library. Do you have Anthony Fury for sale? I'd love to buy it, but the current state of our currency would probably put it way out of my price range. -- Jeremy >> From darkmark90@yahoo.com Wed Jul 04 17:44:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Jul 2001 00:44:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14503 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2001 00:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2001 00:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hm.egroups.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2001 00:44:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.99] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2001 00:44:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:44:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ageism at Marvel Comics Message-ID: <9i0d9h+6tti@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 950 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com Unfortunately, James, the ageism we deplore isn't just in the industry, but rampant throughout fandom itself. From what contact I've had with young fans, they're interested in the current stuff and very little of what was produced before their lifetimes (which, in many cases, makes them too young even for Watchmen or Dark Knight). They don't like older books because they don't have Image-style art, full-bleed color, and all that stuff. In short, they're the children of the Wizard generation. Not all of them are like this, to be sure. But enough are for me to make the observation. On the other hand, the people who made or remember the Golden Age first-hand are pretty well going or gone, and those who were there for the Silver Age will be following in twenty to thirty years. After that, fans may discount everything that isn't X-Men or Batman, unless those two collapse as well in the new millenium. So much for that. From ditko37@interlog.com Wed Jul 04 21:30:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Jul 2001 04:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 65670 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2001 04:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2001 04:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.111) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2001 04:29:54 -0000 Received: from interlog.com ([209.197.170.82]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GFZGHS00.SL0; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:29:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3B43ECEC.52FA3455@interlog.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:28:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: "www.snyder-ditko.com" is on the air! 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SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From CArchivist@aol.com Wed Jul 04 23:09:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Jul 2001 06:09:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20001 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2001 06:09:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2001 06:09:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2001 06:09:38 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.c8.171a26a8 (3851) for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 02:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 02:09:29 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Ageism at Marvel Comics To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com In a message dated 07/04/2001 08:45:47 PM, darkmark90@yahoo.com writes: << Unfortunately, James, the ageism we deplore isn't just in the industry, but rampant throughout fandom itself. From what contact I've had with young fans, they're interested in the current stuff and very little of what was produced before their lifetimes (which, in many cases, makes them too young even for Watchmen or Dark Knight). They don't like older books because they don't have Image-style art, full-bleed color, and all that stuff. In short, they're the children of the Wizard generation. Not all of them are like this, to be sure. But enough are for me to make the observation. On the other hand, the people who made or remember the Golden Age first-hand are pretty well going or gone, and those who were there for the Silver Age will be following in twenty to thirty years. After that, fans may discount everything that isn't X-Men or Batman, unless those two collapse as well in the new millenium. So much for that. >> That works both ways too. How many fans of Golden or Silver or even Bronze Age comics will have NOTHING to do with anything new coming out. I bet there are a few here too :) It is probably not ageism as it is people liking what they grew up with and feeling more comfortable with it. my best -Ray From mgilbert@efn.org Thu Jul 05 13:16:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Jul 2001 20:16:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 66841 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2001 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2001 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (206.163.176.10) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2001 20:15:32 -0000 Received: from [206.163.181.174] (56k-046.efn.org [206.163.181.174]) by clavin.efn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f65KFQq09138 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 13:12:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <994359882.155.55440.l10@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: "Michael T. Gilbert" > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 5 Jul 2001 19:04:42 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 > > > That works both ways too. How many fans of Golden or Silver or even Bronze > Age comics will have NOTHING to do with anything new coming out. I bet there > are a few here too :) > It is probably not ageism as it is people liking what they grew up with and > feeling more comfortable with it. > > my best > -Ray > Maybe Ray, but I just turned 50 a couple of month back...and when I was a teenager I absolutely loved old comics. I didn't grow up with Golden age comics, but I completely devoured the very few I was able to get my hands on. I was totally fascinated to discover whatever I could about these strange superheroes and such that came out years before I was born. And when I discovered EC comics, (also before my time), I went nuts over them. They were clearly some of the best comics I'd ever seen. Likewise the Spirit and Fighting American reprints Harvey published in 1966. I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but I was more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I certainly can't say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader today. Best wishes, Michael T. From darkmark90@yahoo.com Thu Jul 05 18:32:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 6 Jul 2001 01:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 41829 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2001 01:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2001 01:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2001 01:32:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: darkmark90@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2001 01:32:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:32:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 Message-ID: <9i34fr+ukui@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1808 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.57.224.18 From: darkmark90@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Michael T. Gilbert" wrote: > I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but I was > more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I certainly can't > say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader today. > > Best wishes, > > Michael T. Amen to that, Michael. Thanks to the overexploitation of two features--X-Men at Marvel and Batman at DC--plus the too-high unit price for comics, most of the other characters in their stables have a rougher time of making a go of it. In the 1970's and 80's, fans were criticized for being Marvel Zombies. Now we have the phenom of the X-zombie or Bat-zombie, who doesn't even know much of the other Marvel or DC characters, except when they interact with his favorite. And most of us were interested in the Golden Age, thanks to the yearly appearances of the Justice Society in JLA or the World War II riffs in Captain America, together with the GA reprints DC got into in the 1970's and the multitude of Flashbacks Alan Light did back then. I'm not prepared to say new fans are totally disinterested in What Came Before, but when they dis Alan Moore as being obsolete, mainly 'cause he doesn't write X-comics (and I have heard this, folks), then I have to think that something's wrong with the focus of the New Fan. But it's true that we mostly stick with what makes us comfortable. That's why I think most of our generation (Silver Age fans) gradually withdrew from the DC mainstream post-Crisis and from the Marvel books circa Secret Wars. At least, that's what I did. It's hard enough keeping up with a few books you enjoy, rather than a bunch of books for collection's sake. Am I soapboxing here? I believe I am. I'd better stop. From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Jul 05 23:04:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 6 Jul 2001 06:03:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 82921 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2001 06:03:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jul 2001 06:03:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2001 06:03:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2001 06:03:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 06:03:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 Message-ID: <9i3kc6+avv6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9i34fr+ukui@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3408 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.91 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Actualy, Comics as we old timers knew them no longer exist! I read a recent interview w/ Bret Blevins in SCHETCH about how he became interested in comics. I'm paraphrasing here ,but he said something to the effect that " All kids read comics. They were all exposed to them even if they weren't "collectors" of any kind. They read them at the barbershop, they read them in the schoolyard etc. At .10 or .15 they were expendable and frequent." Today this is not so. 2.99 for a 23 pg investment in an unreadable story does not attract new readers! The shame is that the one thing that saved comics in the 80's is the same thing that is killing them today, The Direct Market! Comics are now completely out of the mainstream in availability! Comic Shops are closing by droves, and those still open are hurting! Fanzines are completely dead. ALTER EGO, COMIC BOOK ARTIST,COMICS JOURNAL etc are PRO-ZINES, although aimed at a select market. Todays fan is TOO sophisticated to publish a fanzine. It's all too bad really. The few old timers like most of us ( I'm 52 )DO still pick up some of the current crop. Most of what I've found to be readable has been DC or VIRTIGO, MARVEL's have been fewer and fewer. Consider, Comics are now COMPLETELY published for fandom, not the casual reader as has been comics heritage, and the face of fandom has totaly changed, as DARKMARK has hit it on the head!! Thankfully we still have forums like this! Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Michael T. Gilbert" > wrote: > > I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but > I was > > more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I > certainly can't > > say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader > today. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Michael T. > > Amen to that, Michael. Thanks to the overexploitation of two > features--X-Men at Marvel and Batman at DC--plus the too-high unit > price for comics, most of the other characters in their stables have > a rougher time of making a go of it. In the 1970's and 80's, fans > were criticized for being Marvel Zombies. Now we have the phenom of > the X-zombie or Bat-zombie, who doesn't even know much of the other > Marvel or DC characters, except when they interact with his favorite. > > And most of us were interested in the Golden Age, thanks to the > yearly appearances of the Justice Society in JLA or the World War II > riffs in Captain America, together with the GA reprints DC got into > in the 1970's and the multitude of Flashbacks Alan Light did back > then. I'm not prepared to say new fans are totally disinterested in > What Came Before, but when they dis Alan Moore as being obsolete, > mainly 'cause he doesn't write X-comics (and I have heard this, > folks), then I have to think that something's wrong with the focus of > the New Fan. > > But it's true that we mostly stick with what makes us comfortable. > That's why I think most of our generation (Silver Age fans) gradually > withdrew from the DC mainstream post-Crisis and from the Marvel books > circa Secret Wars. At least, that's what I did. It's hard enough > keeping up with a few books you enjoy, rather than a bunch of books > for collection's sake. Am I soapboxing here? I believe I am. I'd > better stop. From CArchivist@aol.com Thu Jul 05 23:38:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 6 Jul 2001 06:38:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 87071 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2001 06:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2001 06:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2001 06:38:42 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.51.de77439 (3877) for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 02:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51.de77439.2876b6ee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 02:38:38 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com In a message dated 07/05/2001 04:18:20 PM, mgilbert@efn.org writes: << > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 5 Jul 2001 19:04:42 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 > > > That works both ways too. How many fans of Golden or Silver or even Bronze > Age comics will have NOTHING to do with anything new coming out. I bet there > are a few here too :) > It is probably not ageism as it is people liking what they grew up with and > feeling more comfortable with it. > > my best > -Ray > Maybe Ray, but I just turned 50 a couple of month back...and when I was a teenager I absolutely loved old comics. I didn't grow up with Golden age comics, but I completely devoured the very few I was able to get my hands on. I was totally fascinated to discover whatever I could about these strange superheroes and such that came out years before I was born. And when I discovered EC comics, (also before my time), I went nuts over them. They were clearly some of the best comics I'd ever seen. Likewise the Spirit and Fighting American reprints Harvey published in 1966. I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but I was more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I certainly can't say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader today. Best wishes, Michael T. >> I could be a generational thing too. When I was a kid, my generation (X, 34 years young) seemed to me just as fixated with current comics as the comic youth of today. I was an exception. I loved the old and new stuff. Friends who I knew who read comics didn't (at least not til they got order). Those I knew who loved comics loved anything by Adams/Grell (70s) & Byrne/Perez (80s) and hated work by the "old timers" like Kirby, Heck, Ditko, Infantino etc (and I must confess, I would be disappointed too when any filled in work for any issue I bought). Young and dumb is how I'd see it. Given more time and exposure, attitudes change. Think of it this way, how many 14 year olds like the same music today that you liked when you were 14? Not many I am sure! I imagine it could be the same for comics. my best -Ray From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Jul 06 12:20:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 6 Jul 2001 19:20:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 78019 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2001 19:20:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2001 19:20:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2001 19:20:04 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.c4.16c04803 (24898) for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:19:45 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com I'd like to add my two cents to this discussion about young/old fans/readers of comics. We seem to be heading for the conclusion that the majority of youth in each generation will not have any interest in what went before. That may always have been true to some extent. However, I think there is a new layer of compulsive addiction to "what's new?" that infects all the modern popular media. Marketing has reached such a level today that mass tastes are shaped by a constant bombardment of "This is what's HOT; if you want to stay COOL, then you have to get/buy/view what's coming out tomorrow, new week, six months from now. Yesterday is dead. If you linger over yesterday, you're out of touch, dead in the water." The object of this marketing ploy, of course, is to train kids (and susceptible adults) to buy a new product during its first week of release. Nothing works with greater effect (in generating profits) than to make insecure people feel that they have been left behind. It doesn't matter if, say, a movie is good or bad, if one can get enough people to go see it in the first week, that will in itself generate more box office the second week. People are herded like cattle to the slaughter. This marketing strategy is based on the assumption that most people care more about identifying with their demographic "in-group" than developing their own tastes. It has been developed to a "high art" in today's oligopolistic cross-media megacorporations. Today so-called news shows hype products by their parent corporations and few realize it. Everything is an infomercial. Teenagers, in particular, have always been very susceptible to such manipulation by marketeers, but it has reached new heights today. Older comics fans (as distinguished from readers) were, by and larger, among those least affected by (or most unsuccessful in) being part of the "in-crowd". They were loners (until they discovered one another). They read and collected their favorite comics (science fiction or whatever) because the stories and/or art did something special for them, not because that's what everyone else around them was doing. I recently had occasion to listen again to the taped interview that a few early fan-collectors gave to a stringer from Newsweek back in about 1964. The group consisted of people like Shel Dorf, Marvin Giles, Eugene Seger, Bob Broush, and yours truly. We each told the reporter how we got into comics as a hobby. The one notable similarity in all our stories was that we were loners as comics fans. We all said something to the effect, "Until recently, we hadn't even known of each other's existence." We read, enjoyed and loved comics because they satisfied us, not to win points with our friends. In fact, as we grew older, we didn't make a point of telling everyone about our peculiar hobby, especially if they were typical teenagers, who let others define their tastes for them. The genius of Stan Lee in the 1960s was to turn what was at that point an esoteric activity of a few thousand fanatics into a mass marketing phenomenon. Readers became "Marvel Zombie's" NOT for the old reasons that attracted fans of the previous generation but because "Everybody's doing it." In fact, a true Marvel Zombie would not be caught dead reading a DC. That's not to say that some didn't sneak-read them. I'll bet a few of you are in that category. By and larger, comics fans (as opposed to readers) in the Silver Age still had more resistance to mass appeal than the average reader. That doesn't mean their tastes were better. It simply meant that their private tastes in reading were shaped less by "what was in" than the average teen. To telescope a long story-- The trend in the comic book industry has been to turn comics fans from "loners" into "groupies", to shape the tastes of the target audience by the same mass marketing techniques that have made so much money in other popular arts. This has been accomplished by commercializing every aspect of Fandom -- conventions, fanzines, even the Internet. Get readers to buy comics that are over-hyped, because that's what everyone else is doing. Can't you just hear the hype in your head? "Get all 10 gold foil, multiple cover variants of this brand-new series that is bound to be a collector's item!!!" "Line up to get your copies autographed at one of the conventions this summer." Do what everybody else is doing. Make no choices of your own. Follow the herd. Ray concludes with the comment "Young and dumb". This seems to suggest that interest in developing one's own tastes and exploring the history of comics for other gems is something that people will grow into to. I am not so sure. All the young people I know -- including Ray -- who have an interest in the history of the media have always displayed individual taste. They demonstrated, early on, the ability to separate out what they enjoyed from what was "just hot". It seems to me that "interest in comics of all ages" has little to do with the age of the individual. The majority of the public have always been susceptible to hype and herding behavior. The so-called fan magazines and conventions will continue their mass appeal, but true Comics Fandom with probably survive via the Internet as it has always been -- a marginal activity by loners who just happened to discover others with similar interests. Bestest, Jerry In a message dated 7/6/01 2:39:52 AM, CArchivist@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 07/05/2001 04:18:20 PM, mgilbert@efn.org writes: << > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 5 Jul 2001 19:04:42 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 115 > > > That works both ways too. How many fans of Golden or Silver or even Bronze > Age comics will have NOTHING to do with anything new coming out. I bet there > are a few here too :) > It is probably not ageism as it is people liking what they grew up with and > feeling more comfortable with it. > > my best > -Ray > Maybe Ray, but I just turned 50 a couple of month back...and when I was a teenager I absolutely loved old comics. I didn't grow up with Golden age comics, but I completely devoured the very few I was able to get my hands on. I was totally fascinated to discover whatever I could about these strange superheroes and such that came out years before I was born. And when I discovered EC comics, (also before my time), I went nuts over them. They were clearly some of the best comics I'd ever seen. Likewise the Spirit and Fighting American reprints Harvey published in 1966. I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but I was more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I certainly can't say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader today. Best wishes, Michael T. >> I could be a generational thing too. When I was a kid, my generation (X, 34 years young) seemed to me just as fixated with current comics as the comic youth of today. I was an exception. I loved the old and new stuff. Friends who I knew who read comics didn't (at least not til they got order). Those I knew who loved comics loved anything by Adams/Grell (70s) & Byrne/Perez (80s) and hated work by the "old timers" like Kirby, Heck, Ditko, Infantino etc (and I must confess, I would be disappointed too when any filled in work for any issue I bought). Young and dumb is how I'd see it. Given more time and exposure, attitudes change. Think of it this way, how many 14 year olds like the same music today that you liked when you were 14? Not many I am sure! I imagine it could be the same for comics. my best -Ray >> From flash14221@yahoo.com Fri Jul 06 14:48:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 6 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 25104 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo.egroups.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.208] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:48:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: digest 115 Message-ID: <9i5bo5+lj18@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 471 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.109 From: flash14221@yahoo.com Jerry, as usual you put it eloquently! My own experience in comic fandom was similar. There were two of us in my high school ( that I knew of anyway!) and the only contact I had with other fans was through fanzines and occasional mail. I was in awe of the pros (as were most fans!) and it all was such a solitary vice! Thanks for the insight. As for the state of the Comic Book Industry today it's a case of the inmates running the asylum! Gord From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Jul 06 17:47:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 00:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 51599 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 00:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 00:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 00:47:33 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.24.15e2325e (18558) for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 20:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <24.15e2325e.2877b61f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 20:47:27 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: digest 115 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Thanks for your comment. I'm happy to hear that I struck a cord. Your remarks struck a cord with me, as well. Bestest, Jerry ------ In a message dated 7/6/01 6:03:34 PM, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << Jerry, as usual you put it eloquently! My own experience in comic fandom was similar. There were two of us in my high school ( that I knew of anyway!) and the only contact I had with other fans was through fanzines and occasional mail. I was in awe of the pros (as were most fans!) and it all was such a solitary vice! Thanks for the insight. As for the state of the Comic Book Industry today it's a case of the inmates running the asylum! Gord >> -------- original messages ---------- Actualy, Comics as we old timers knew them no longer exist! I read a recent interview w/ Bret Blevins in SCHETCH about how he became interested in comics. I'm paraphrasing here ,but he said something to the effect that " All kids read comics. They were all exposed to them even if they weren't "collectors" of any kind. They read them at the barbershop, they read them in the schoolyard etc. At .10 or .15 they were expendable and frequent." Today this is not so. 2.99 for a 23 pg investment in an unreadable story does not attract new readers! The shame is that the one thing that saved comics in the 80's is the same thing that is killing them today, The Direct Market! Comics are now completely out of the mainstream in availability! Comic Shops are closing by droves, and those still open are hurting! Fanzines are completely dead. ALTER EGO, COMIC BOOK ARTIST,COMICS JOURNAL etc are PRO-ZINES, although aimed at a select market. Todays fan is TOO sophisticated to publish a fanzine. It's all too bad really. The few old timers like most of us ( I'm 52 )DO still pick up some of the current crop. Most of what I've found to be readable has been DC or VIRTIGO, MARVEL's have been fewer and fewer. Consider, Comics are now COMPLETELY published for fandom, not the casual reader as has been comics heritage, and the face of fandom has totaly changed, as DARKMARK has hit it on the head!! Thankfully we still have forums like this! Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., darkmark90@y... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Michael T. Gilbert" > wrote: > > I also loved many of the comics that were currently coming out, but > I was > > more interested in GOOD comics than what age they were. I > certainly can't > > say that about your average mainstream teenage comic book reader > today. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Michael T. > > Amen to that, Michael. Thanks to the overexploitation of two > features--X-Men at Marvel and Batman at DC--plus the too-high unit > price for comics, most of the other characters in their stables have > a rougher time of making a go of it. In the 1970's and 80's, fans > were criticized for being Marvel Zombies. Now we have the phenom of > the X-zombie or Bat-zombie, who doesn't even know much of the other > Marvel or DC characters, except when they interact with his favorite. > > And most of us were interested in the Golden Age, thanks to the > yearly appearances of the Justice Society in JLA or the World War II > riffs in Captain America, together with the GA reprints DC got into > in the 1970's and the multitude of Flashbacks Alan Light did back > then. I'm not prepared to say new fans are totally disinterested in > What Came Before, but when they dis Alan Moore as being obsolete, > mainly 'cause he doesn't write X-comics (and I have heard this, > folks), then I have to think that something's wrong with the focus of > the New Fan. > > But it's true that we mostly stick with what makes us comfortable. > That's why I think most of our generation (Silver Age fans) gradually > withdrew from the DC mainstream post-Crisis and from the Marvel books > circa Secret Wars. At least, that's what I did. It's hard enough > keeping up with a few books you enjoy, rather than a bunch of books > for collection's sake. Am I soapboxing here? I believe I am. I'd > better stop. From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 09:40:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 16:40:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 30718 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 16:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 16:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 16:40:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.65] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 16:40:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 16:40:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9i7e1n+smcp@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <470e044c85.44c85470e0@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 237 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JEREMY PETER MACPHERSON wrote: > Does anyone have any copies of a Texas zine called "Star Studded > Comics"? Especially #13? I have copies of #1, 2, 4 - 17 in front of me! Bob From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 09:53:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 16:53:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 58512 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 16:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 16:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mk.egroups.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 16:53:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 16:53:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 16:53:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9i7epe+hbl7@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1017 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., srowecanoe@a... wrote: > i probably have about 2/3 of a complete Star Studded comics collection. It > was one of the first photo-offset fanzines. Issue #1 and 2 were mimeo. I don't have #3. #4 - 17 were offset. >For those who don't know, SSC > was all "ama" comics... Not just ama comics -- also text stories by such as Buddy Saunders, Larry Herndon, and George R.R. Martin. > no idea what numbers - do know that I don't have the last issue (which > was all sword and sorcery comics) > Steven Rowe #17 (Summer 1971) is the last issue I have. It has a nice Jerry Mayes color cover with raygun space babe, caveman, dinosaurs. Also: 18 pg. Alan Weiss comic story "The Knight and the Barbarian", 12 pg. Roy Thomas & Sam Granger adaptation (beginning) of Gardner Fox's "Warrior of Llarn", 8 pg. (reduced to 2 pg. per page) Ronn Foss "Siren Defeats Excel", 8 pg. Alan Weiss (inked by Scott Bell) Dragonfly comic story, and color Sam Granger Warrior of Llarn bacover. From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 09:55:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 16:55:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 63047 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 16:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 16:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 16:55:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 16:55:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 16:55:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9i7eta+jk41@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200106261706.MAA24887@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 299 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Bob's Email" wrote: > That last issue was published by Joe Bob Williams, if I remember correctly > > bob beerbohm Issue #17, the last issue I have, was still pubbed by the Texas Trio. But there may well have been an issue or issues after #17. Bob From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 10:06:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 17:06:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 85141 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 17:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 17:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 17:06:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.100] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 17:06:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:05:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9i7fhn+a6om@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9hb36c+j4d6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 972 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., jeremy.macpherson@s... wrote: > The reason I'm looking for #13 is that it has an article on Stanley > Pitt. Does anyone know who wrote this article? Issue #11 has an article on Stan Pitt -- and a Stan Pitt bacover of Gully Foyle. The article (5 pg) is an installment of John Ryan's Bidgee & includes 2 full pg. of Gully Foyle. Does anyone know if Pitt's Gully Foyle / The Stars My Destination adaptation was ever published? More info on #11: cover - Geo. Metzger Dr. Weird 8 pg. psychedelic Metzger Dr. Weird "Black Rite" comic story (with "florid script" by Peter Grant & "mind-boggling border illuminations" by Rich Shubb) 10 pg. Ron Harris "Changling in Scabbard Strikes" comic story 9 pg. Buddy Saunders "Dr. Weird Meets The Demon" comic story Issue #13 has another installment of John Ryan's Bidgee with more info on Gully Foyle by no more Stan Pitt art. Instead Aussie comic artist Monty Wedd is featured. Best, Bob Stump From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 10:07:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 17:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 23442 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 17:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 17:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 17:07:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.100] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 17:07:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:07:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9i7fk6+9mt4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <6f.17645f45.286e0ee3@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 374 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., GaryB98294@a... wrote: > I was fortunate to have been in CAPA-alpha with John Ryan and a > correspondent. While I was publishing the newszine Comic Comments and > Comixscene, John sent me the presentation portfolio Stan Pitt did for Gully > Foyle. Beautiful stuff. > Gary Brown Do you still have? Can you scan & post? Best, Bob Stump From customego@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 11:25:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 18:25:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 95486 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 18:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 18:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 18:25:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.124] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 18:25:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 18:25:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Call To Arms (Or I need your help) Message-ID: <9i7k66+5lv5@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 403 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.237 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi All, If anyone can help me by scanning certain characters I need for my ama-hero list from their zines I would be grateful. What I'm looking for, in particular, are super-heroes. If you don't mind scanning, and/or photocopying your zines, please contact me at amahero@amahero.cjb.net. Your help will help my upcoming site all the more complete, and is very much appreciated. Cheers, Darrin From customego@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 11:28:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 18:28:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 86724 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 18:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 18:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 18:28:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.124] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 18:28:54 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 18:28:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Call To Arms (Or I need your help) E-mail address Message-ID: <9i7kd3+ibff@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 110 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.237 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" I know Yahoo hides the e-mail addres, so it's amahero @ amahero.cjb.net (remove the spaces). Cheers, Darrin From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 14:20:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 21:20:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 7068 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 21:20:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 21:20:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hh.egroups.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 21:20:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 21:20:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 21:20:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Sense of Wonder #12 - Pitt & Ryan Message-ID: <9i7ueq+q8u7@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 652 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." I found my copy of Sense of Wonder #12. The cover is of Yarmak (Tarzan replicant) by Don Newton. John Ryan did the article "Yarmak the Fearless One" re Stan Pitt's Yarmak South African comic book. The article also has more info on Pitt's effort to get Gully Foyle / The Stars My Destination syndicated. There are several Pitt Yarmak illoes, 2 more Gully Foyle pages, & a page of Secret Agent Corrigan strips ghosted by Pitt. There's other nice stuff in the ish too: a Jack Kirby article a Will Eisner article a very nice Joe Wehrle comic story, "the bandemar", & a Wehrle Fawn bacover. No wonder I kept the zine all these years! Best, Bob Stump From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 14:40:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 21:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 88771 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 21:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 21:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mu.egroups.com) (64.211.240.238) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 21:40:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 21:40:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 21:40:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fan to Fan #4 Message-ID: <9i7vl1+7pa6@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 902 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." Just pulled this one out & figured someone would be interested.... Fan to Fan #4 pubbed by Keith Greene and edited by Bob Butts, ditto, 1964. Cover Ron Foss illo of Captain America. Article "A Little of the Quality Comic Group" by Glen Johnson & Ray Miller. 8 pg. strip Capt. Democracy "The Mark of Ming", story by the much maligned () Casey Brennan and art by Al Kuhfeld. 6 pg. humor strip Rossow and Butts The Comic Collectors by Keith Greene. 1 pg. Keith Greene humorous illo for Vox Populi, the lettercol. Lettercol follows. Text story continuing "The Origin of the Protectors" featuring in this episode the Professor, the Bullet, Future Man, the Changer, and Energiman. Small illos of Captain Mystery, Klaatu, the Brain, the Teleport Master, the Fog, and the Genie are also shown. Story by Michael Fallis, art by Howard Keltner. My 2-Cents Worth editorial by Bob Butts. From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 14:58:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 21:58:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23862 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 21:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 21:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ei.egroups.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 21:58:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.59] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 21:58:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 21:58:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Space and Time # 35 Message-ID: <9i80lb+haft@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 222 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." I kept Space and Time #35 (March 1976, pubbed by Gordon Linzer) all these years for the 14-page Joe Zabel strip "Hero". Zabel also did the front cover. Anybody know what Joe Zabel is up to these days? Best, Bob Stump From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sat Jul 07 15:19:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Jul 2001 22:19:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 57156 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2001 22:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2001 22:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2001 22:19:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bee_ess107@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.73] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2001 22:19:11 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 22:19:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comic Crusader #12 Message-ID: <9i81st+3tr5@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1301 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.168.237.46 From: "Bob S." Ron Foss got weirder in the late 1960s - 1970s. Comic Crusader #12 (1972) pubbed by Martin L. Greim announced itself "Welcome to a Barbaric Issue" with a Dave Cockrum full page illo. Juanillo did an aging wrinkly Conanesque front cover. Steranko did a nice full page Hunt Bowman (from Planet Comics) illo. Tom Fagan did an article on Planet Comics. Don Newton did a viking illo. Dennis Fukitake did a Conan parody strip "The Coming of Nolan". Wrightson did a full page illo. Tony Isabella (who he? ) did a Conan article. Cosgrove did an ERB article. Mike Roberts did a 3/4 page illo for or maybe following the article. Greim does illos thruout the zine. There's a Frank Thorne interview. There's an article on Carlos Gimenez. John Byrne did a full page Dani Futuro illo for the article. And there's the Ronn Foss Eclipse full page illo "the unknown unleashed" and 9 page Eclipse "Witch Hunt" strip. The strip has lots of nice Foss nude bad witch women. Eclipse kicks naked witch woman butt punches & slaps witch women. Fun stuff! Then there's a Buscema (Sal?) and Sinnott full page illo, From the Circular File lettercol & the bacover has lots of crosshatching & is by somebody whose signature I can't make out due to all the crosshatching. Fun zine! Best, Bob Stump From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Jul 08 10:32:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Jul 2001 17:32:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 5488 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2001 17:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Jul 2001 17:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Jul 2001 17:32:51 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.c9.1258709d (4400) for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:32:46 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Space and Time # 35 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/7/2001 5:58:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bee_ess107@yahoo.com writes: > I kept Space and Time #35 (March 1976, pubbed by Gordon Linzer) all > these years for the 14-page Joe Zabel strip "Hero". > > Zabel also did the front cover. > > Anybody know what Joe Zabel is up to these days? > hmm, I was going to ask that question elsewhere about his work for the past couple years. I recently read one of his "trespassers" comic books and really enjoyed it, has he done any comic books in the bast two years? ( and besides writing and drawing these great crime comics, he has worked with Harvey Pekar). steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bee_ess107@yahoo.com Sun Jul 08 17:18:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bee_ess107@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 00:18:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 57114 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 00:18:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 00:18:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10804.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 00:18:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20010709001848.25005.qmail@web10804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.168.237.46] by web10804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:18:48 PDT Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Joe Zabel To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bob S." --- srowecanoe@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/7/2001 5:58:11 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > bee_ess107@yahoo.com writes: > > Anybody know what Joe Zabel is up to these days? > hmm, I was going to ask that question elsewhere about > his work for the past > couple years. I recently read one of his "trespassers" > comic books and > really enjoyed it, I rarely even go into comic shops these days, & haven't seen "trespassers". Who publishes it? Didn't Zabel do _Alien Fire_? That's the latest thing by him I've seen. I'm really behind on what's going on in the comic books. >has he done any comic books in the > bast two years? ( and > besides writing and drawing these great crime comics, he > has worked with > Harvey Pekar). > > steven rowe Is "trespassers" a crime comic? Best, Bob Stump __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Mon Jul 09 10:41:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 17:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4349 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 17:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 17:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 17:40:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2001 17:40:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:40:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] "Star Studded Comics" Message-ID: <9icqai+8b9t@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9i7epe+hbl7@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 851 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 216.138.223.228 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Star Studded went up to issue 18. There's a picture of the cover in Bill Schelly's 2nd edition of The Golden Age of Comics Fandom in the color section. Schelly's caption says that 18 was the last issue. -Mark Mayerson > > > no idea what numbers - do know that I don't have the last > issue (which > > was all sword and sorcery comics) > > Steven Rowe > > #17 (Summer 1971) is the last issue I have. > It has a nice Jerry Mayes color cover with raygun space babe, > caveman, dinosaurs. > Also: > 18 pg. Alan Weiss comic story "The Knight and the Barbarian", > 12 pg. Roy Thomas & Sam Granger adaptation (beginning) of Gardner > Fox's "Warrior of Llarn", > 8 pg. (reduced to 2 pg. per page) Ronn Foss "Siren Defeats Excel", > 8 pg. Alan Weiss (inked by Scott Bell) Dragonfly comic story, > and color Sam Granger Warrior of Llarn bacover. From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Mon Jul 09 10:42:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 17:42:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 34560 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 17:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 17:41:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hp.egroups.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 17:41:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.10.122] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2001 17:41:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:41:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Graphic Story World/Wonderworld Message-ID: <9icqcv+27cc@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 122 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 216.138.223.228 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com What was the last issue of Graphic Story World/Wonderworld? I know that it went up to number 10 at least. -Mark Mayerson From tazwert@yahoo.com Mon Jul 09 12:02:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 19:02:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 35571 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 19:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 19:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13808.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 19:00:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20010709190050.74223.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.40.180.141] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:00:50 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Books about Comics Fandom.... To: List - Yahoo! Fanzines Cc: Bronze Age List - Yahoo! , Indie Comics List - Yahoo! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or perusing. I have a short list (mostly because it is from memory), but I would like to expand it. Does anyone know of any other books about comics, comics fandom, or comic creators other than the following: The Great Comic Book Heroe by Jules Feiffer All In Color For A Dime by Don Thompson and Richard Lupoff. The Comic-Book Book by Thompson and Lupoff. The Smithsonian Book of Comic Books The Smithsonian Book of Comic Strips. I am open to various types of books. (i.e. underground comix, alternative press, superhero, etc) ===== *********************************************************** "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he's a baby." - Natalie Wood (1938 - 1981) Join The Quotes DuJour mailing list! 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Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From genekjr@earthlink.net Mon Jul 09 14:45:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: genekjr@mail.earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 21:45:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 61635 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 21:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 21:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 21:45:04 -0000 Received: from Gene (pool-63.52.66.162.cmbr.grid.net [63.52.66.162]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26732 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:45:01 -0700 (PDT) To: List - Yahoo! Fanzines Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:42:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... Message-ID: <3B49ECF6.9853.876635@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20010709190050.74223.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) From: "Gene Kannenberg, Jr." Paul Ewert asked: > I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or > perusing. I'm a bit biased :-), but I'd like to suggest my site, . It includes information on books covering all facets of comics, including fandom. Enties usually list a book's table of contents as well as published reviews and sometimes on-line reviews. There are also web links and other types of information there. Try searching for both "fandom" and "fan." One fairly recent book about fandom is > Pustz, Matthew J. Comic Book Culture: Fanboys and True Believers. Jackson: > University Press of Mississippi, 1999. 244 pp. ISBN 1-57806-200-4 (hc), > 1-57806-201-2 (paper). http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~epk93002/ComicsScholarship/Entries/pustz.html It's more an analysis than a history, so it may not be exactly the type of thing you're looking for. Another excellent bibliography (also searchable) is the Comics Research Bibliography, maintained by Mike Rhode and John Bullough: http://www.rpi.edu/~bulloj/comxbib.html Hope this is helpful. I'm always happy to receive suggestions or reviews. Best, Gene Kannenberg, Jr. http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~epk93002/ -- Gene.Kannenberg@uconn.edu Chair, Comic Art & Comics Area, Popular Culture Association http://www.ComicsResearch.org/ -- Gene@ComicsResearch.org Comics Scholarship Annotated Bibliographies From magilla445@aol.com Mon Jul 09 16:15:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 23:15:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 95072 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 23:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 23:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 23:15:01 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.53.8617969 (4411) for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53.8617969.287b94f0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:14:56 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 From: magilla445@aol.com In a message dated 7/9/01 5:02:24 PM Central Daylight Time, genekjr@earthlink.net writes: << Paul Ewert asked: > I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or > perusing. >> Last year, I published my book, FANDOM: Confidential which certainly falls into this category. I still have copies available. For more information, please check out my web page at the link below. Warmest regards...........Ron Frantz FANDOM: Confidential http://members.aol.com/midguard20/Midguardindex.html From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Jul 09 17:51:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 10 Jul 2001 00:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 48857 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 00:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jul 2001 00:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 00:51:43 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.22.187ce8b8 (7878) for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <22.187ce8b8.287bab93@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:51:31 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Graphic Story World/Wonderworld To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/9/2001 7:59:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mayerson@monsterbymistake.com writes: > What was the last issue of Graphic Story World/Wonderworld? > I know that it went up to number 10 at least. > the one with the Mickey Spilane interview (i finally bought it last year, still waiting for my subscription copy). steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tenmans38@aol.com Mon Jul 09 23:43:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Tenmans38@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 10 Jul 2001 06:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 56643 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 06:43:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2001 06:43:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 06:43:41 -0000 Received: from Tenmans38@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.16.f0f7503 (664) for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <16.f0f7503.287bfe1a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:43:38 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 From: tenmans38@aol.com In a message dated 7/10/01 6:00:48 AM, tazwert@yahoo.com writes: << I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or perusing. >> This topic reminds me of the book i bought at Hastings last week. its called The Classic Era of AMERICAN COMICS by Nicky Wright. its a large hardback for $39.95 with a year 2000 print date. it starts with the early Funnies comics and then covers a lot of the early stuff. with many pictues. with chapters on different times (like EC, WAR TIME COMICS.and so on)that comics went thru. Tenman(mike) From CArchivist@aol.com Tue Jul 10 02:28:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 10 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29386 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 09:28:16 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.28.17deb2aa (4258) for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <28.17deb2aa.287c24ac@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:28:12 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com In a message dated 07/10/2001 02:00:53 AM, tazwert@yahoo.com writes: << I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or perusing. I have a short list (mostly because it is from memory), but I would like to expand it. Does anyone know of any other books about comics, comics fandom, or comic creators other than the following: The Great Comic Book Heroe by Jules Feiffer All In Color For A Dime by Don Thompson and Richard Lupoff. The Comic-Book Book by Thompson and Lupoff. The Smithsonian Book of Comic Books The Smithsonian Book of Comic Strips. I am open to various types of books. (i.e. underground comix, alternative press, superhero, etc) >> Here is a list of items I recommend (to various degrees): <> my best -Ray From CArchivist@aol.com Tue Jul 10 02:30:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 10 Jul 2001 09:30:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 83854 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 09:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2001 09:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 09:30:20 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.11.16d55265 (4258) for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11.16d55265.287c2526@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:30:14 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com In a message dated 07/10/2001 02:08:59 AM, magilla445@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 7/9/01 5:02:24 PM Central Daylight Time, genekjr@earthlink.net writes: << Paul Ewert asked: > I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or > perusing. >> Last year, I published my book, FANDOM: Confidential which certainly falls into this category. I still have copies available. For more information, please check out my web page at the link below. Warmest regards...........Ron Frantz FANDOM: Confidential http://members.aol.com/midguard20/Midguardindex.html To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Ron's book is highly recommended by me. With his book and Schelly's Fandom History book, the entire era of comic fandom from the 60s thru 70s gets sweeping coverage. FYI -Ray From bud@budplant.com Tue Jul 10 15:24:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 10 Jul 2001 22:24:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 45854 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 22:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2001 22:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.241) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 22:23:41 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GGA00CFG3JG65@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:23:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 120: Books about Comics To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <005801c1098f$00a54910$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <994797884.1604.61431.l10@yahoogroups.com> From: Bud Plant Unabashed plug: The books under discussion are exactly what I specialize in with my new business, Bud Plant Comic Art, and what my partner Jim and I specialize in in our out-of-print business, Bud Plant Illustrated Books. You can see everything new that I'm handling, such as the Nicky Wright book, on my website, www.budplant.com. I never let a good reference book pass by without handling it for some time. My partner Jim Vadeboncoeur's website, www.bpib.com has a link to our out-of-print books, which are listed on ABE.com except for the latest arrivals. We give customers getting the catalog first shot and list on ABE only after 30-60 days of a new catalog appearing. But sometimes his site is a bit hard to negociate, so perhaps easier is to call or email Jim about any specific titles. He's been a collector, like myself, for 35 years and he has an enormous library as well as an excellent memory. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- From hansen@smartt.com Wed Jul 11 19:19:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 12 Jul 2001 02:19:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 62966 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2001 02:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jul 2001 02:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 02:19:11 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mx06010.smartt.com [209.52.2.116]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6C2ULn05101 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001601c10a78$eced1c00$740234d1@hansen> To: References: <9i7fk6+9mt4@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:18:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob There was a SSC #18, which to the best of my knowledge was the last. The only place where I have seen the Gully Foyle strips fully reproduced is in the Menomee Falls Gazette. I dont have them at hand right now, and can't remember the exact numbers but I think it was in the 160's?? Perhaps Jerry or Gary can help further, though I can dig some out to find out exactly what numbers they were if the guys can't recall. Peter Hansen ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob S. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:07 AM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., GaryB98294@a... wrote: > I was fortunate to have been in CAPA-alpha with John Ryan and a > correspondent. While I was publishing the newszine Comic Comments and > Comixscene, John sent me the presentation portfolio Stan Pitt did for Gully > Foyle. Beautiful stuff. > Gary Brown Do you still have? Can you scan & post? Best, Bob Stump To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hansen@smartt.com Wed Jul 11 20:01:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 12 Jul 2001 03:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 34625 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2001 03:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Jul 2001 03:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 03:01:50 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mx06010.smartt.com [209.52.2.116]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6C3Cvn16146 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b101c10a7e$e0767060$740234d1@hansen> To: References: <28.17deb2aa.287c24ac@aol.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:00:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray You little devil. Many thanks for a great index of comic reference books. = Some suggestions for additions. Bonzer; Australian comics from 1900 to 1990 by Annette Shiell and Mick Ston= e Gil Kane; The art of Comics by Daniel Herman The Great Canadian Comic Book by Hirsh and Louber Comics; An Illustrated History by Alan & Laurel Clark Big Book of Big Little Books by Bill Borden Will add some more when I can (Gifford books). Peter Hansen Vancouver ----- Original Message -----=20 From: CArchivist@aol.com=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Books about Comics Fandom.... In a message dated 07/10/2001 02:00:53 AM, tazwert@yahoo.com writes: << I am looking for books about Comics and Comics Fandom for reading or perusing. I have a short list (mostly because it is from memory), but I would like to expand it. Does anyone know of any other books about comics, comics fandom, or comic creators other than the following: The Great Comic Book Heroe by Jules Feiffer All In Color For A Dime by Don Thompson and Richard Lupoff. The Comic-Book Book by Thompson and Lupoff. The Smithsonian Book of Comic Books The Smithsonian Book of Comic Strips. I am open to various types of books. (i.e. underground comix, alternative press, superhero, etc) >> Here is a list of items I recommend (to various degrees): <> my best -Ray To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alortie@tmlp.com Thu Jul 12 10:15:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 12 Jul 2001 17:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16571 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2001 17:15:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jul 2001 17:15:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 17:15:21 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 (modem180.tmlp.com [209.117.43.185]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01385 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: <008301c10af5$c02ca0a0$b92b75d1@tmlp.com> To: References: <994953544.827.29665.l10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:11:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" > The only place where I have seen the Gully Foyle > strips fully reproduced is in the Menomee Falls Gazette. > I dont have them at hand right now, and can't remember > the exact numbers but I think it was in the 160's?? I have all the Gazettes and produced a mini-index for them. Gully Foyle didn't run at all. Many fanzines, however, ran the strips. Off-hand I can think of: Star-Studded Comics (several issues?) Vanguard 1968 Comic Crusader #17 Unknown Worlds of Science Fiction #2 Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison From hansen@smartt.com Thu Jul 12 23:04:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 13 Jul 2001 06:04:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 97641 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2001 06:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jul 2001 06:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 06:04:43 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mn02044.smartt.com [209.52.12.94]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6D6Fnn26105 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <184401c10b61$23b3be40$740234d1@hansen> To: References: <994953544.827.29665.l10@yahoogroups.com> <008301c10af5$c02ca0a0$b92b75d1@tmlp.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:00:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouch Art. Thanks for the gentle reminder that my memory is not as good as I think it is. You do however make a good point that a little research would spare my blushes. My apologies to the group. Peter Hansen ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Lortie To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > The only place where I have seen the Gully Foyle > strips fully reproduced is in the Menomee Falls Gazette. > I dont have them at hand right now, and can't remember > the exact numbers but I think it was in the 160's?? I have all the Gazettes and produced a mini-index for them. Gully Foyle didn't run at all. Many fanzines, however, ran the strips. Off-hand I can think of: Star-Studded Comics (several issues?) Vanguard 1968 Comic Crusader #17 Unknown Worlds of Science Fiction #2 Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alortie@tmlp.com Fri Jul 13 10:41:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 13 Jul 2001 17:41:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 42176 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2001 17:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jul 2001 17:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 17:40:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: alortie@tmlp.com Received: from [10.1.1.35] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2001 17:40:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:40:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9inbqb+hk23@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <184401c10b61$23b3be40$740234d1@hansen> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 724 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.86.249.146 From: alortie@tmlp.com > Thanks for the gentle reminder that my memory > is not as good as I think it is. You do > however make a good point that a little > research would spare my blushes. My > apologies to the group. I get the impression that you felt I chided you? Nay, nay. I was just passing along info. How many folks actually have access to all 232 issues of the Menomonee Falls Gazette -- or my index, for that matter? Not many, I'll wager. Has anyone ever started a Stan Pitt checklist? I started one that I could dig out if it'll be of assistance to anyone. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met. - Rodney Dangerfield From bud@budplant.com Fri Jul 13 13:39:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 13 Jul 2001 20:39:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 99282 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2001 20:39:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jul 2001 20:39:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 20:39:56 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GGF00D1JIQICU@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:40:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 123 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <00ae01c10bdc$01a9a410$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <995051457.985.73560.l10@yahoogroups.com> From: Bud Plant Given all this talk of Pitt's Gully Foyle, hope that any of you who have not read the book its all based on, Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination, will check into it. It is probably one of the more comic book-oriented science fiction novels, besides being a classic and an award winner. The novel actually has somewhat psychedelic uses of text in it, like Alice in Wonderland, as Gully experiences some of the strange states of mind within. And the power that he ends up with is certainly very comic book like. Its kind of a Count of Monte Cristo with super powers and in outer space. Excellent work, read it a couple times, first as a kid full of the sense of wonder that got me into comics around the same time. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 123 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 3 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > From: "Arthur Lortie" > 2. Re: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > From: "P.Hansen" > 3. Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > From: alortie@tmlp.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:11:47 -0400 > From: "Arthur Lortie" > Subject: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > > The only place where I have seen the Gully Foyle > > strips fully reproduced is in the Menomee Falls Gazette. > > I dont have them at hand right now, and can't remember > > the exact numbers but I think it was in the 160's?? > > I have all the Gazettes and produced a mini-index for them. Gully Foyle > didn't run at all. > > Many fanzines, however, ran the strips. Off-hand I can think of: > > Star-Studded Comics (several issues?) > Vanguard 1968 > Comic Crusader #17 > Unknown Worlds of Science Fiction #2 > > Arthur Lortie > 16 Adams Street #3 > Taunton, MA 02780-2504 > USA > > ALortie@tmlp.com > 508-828-5821 > > The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - > Harlan Ellison > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:00:37 -0700 > From: "P.Hansen" > Subject: Re: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > Ouch Art. > > Thanks for the gentle reminder that my memory is not as good as I think it is. You do however make a good point that a little research would spare my blushes. My apologies to the group. > > Peter Hansen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Arthur Lortie > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:11 AM > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > > > The only place where I have seen the Gully Foyle > > strips fully reproduced is in the Menomee Falls Gazette. > > I dont have them at hand right now, and can't remember > > the exact numbers but I think it was in the 160's?? > > I have all the Gazettes and produced a mini-index for them. Gully Foyle > didn't run at all. > > Many fanzines, however, ran the strips. Off-hand I can think of: > > Star-Studded Comics (several issues?) > Vanguard 1968 > Comic Crusader #17 > Unknown Worlds of Science Fiction #2 > > Arthur Lortie > 16 Adams Street #3 > Taunton, MA 02780-2504 > USA > > ALortie@tmlp.com > 508-828-5821 > > The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - > Harlan Ellison > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:40:27 -0000 > From: alortie@tmlp.com > Subject: Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > > Thanks for the gentle reminder that my memory > > is not as good as I think it is. You do > > however make a good point that a little > > research would spare my blushes. My > > apologies to the group. > > I get the impression that you felt I chided you? > > Nay, nay. I was just passing along info. How many folks actually have > access to all 232 issues of the Menomonee Falls Gazette -- or my > index, for that matter? Not many, I'll wager. > > Has anyone ever started a Stan Pitt checklist? I started one that I > could dig out if it'll be of assistance to anyone. > > Arthur Lortie > 16 Adams Street #3 > Taunton, MA 02780-2504 > USA > > ALortie@tmlp.com > 508-828-5821 > > My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met. - Rodney > Dangerfield > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From ditko37@interlog.com Fri Jul 13 20:50:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 14 Jul 2001 03:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 17450 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2001 03:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Jul 2001 03:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.ca.inter.net) (38.210.35.210) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Jul 2001 03:50:03 -0000 Received: from ip2.toronto96.dialup.canada.psi.net ([154.20.90.2] helo=cr666264-a) by smtp.ca.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15LGRV-0003gY-00 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:50:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20010713234810.0105dd70@mail.interlog.com> X-Sender: ditko37@mail.interlog.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:48:10 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Jim Van Hise & Blake Bell on the Loose In S.D. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Blake Bell It must be fate, as I picked up a copy of Jim's THE ART OF AL WILLIAMSON in a book store today. Looks mighty good. Any reminiscences about the putting-together of this one, Jim? Also, I'll be at the San Diego con for the first time in my 30-year-old life, digging for old fanzines. I'll be this guy... http://www.boredwithtoday.com/newsblak.jpg ...so say hi, if you see me. My first two published articles are coming out, both on Ditko - one in the Tower Issue of COMIC BOOK ARTIST #14 and in THE WARREN COMPANION. I'm all verklempt. Cons south of the 49th parallel are NOTHING like they are up here. Looking at the San Diego program, I could spend the whole day at all the panels! Also, even though the San Diego con web-site is down AGAIN, I seem to remember Jim conducting some kind of fanzine-related panel. Look for me there, Jim! :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From hansen@smartt.com Sat Jul 14 18:33:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 15 Jul 2001 01:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 14901 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2001 01:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jul 2001 01:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Jul 2001 01:33:20 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mx09007.smartt.com [209.52.2.176]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6F1iUn21194 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003301c10ccc$41bdbd20$b00234d1@hansen> To: References: <9hor0o+gu83@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:19:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeremy Phew!! What a week its been. Sorry I have not replied, but I have been super busy. Very interested to hear about the official Stanley Pitt Gallery being constructed, is this a web page?? I'm a bit surprised to hear that Stan had agreed to an interview, as I understood that his agent (Richard Rae) was/is a bit of a difficult guy to deal with when it comes to this sort of thing. I have a number of Pitt items including an unpublished interview, and some of those already published in Star Studded, Sense of Wonder, Comic Crusader, Visions, Stan's rendition of Flash Gordon in Heritage "a", and a few other bits and pieces. Don't have a copy of the article in Science Fiction though. I am sure that a number of John Ryan's fanzines would have had info on Stanley Pitt, but they are rarer than hens teeth, and the best chance of finding any would be in Australia I would have thought. Well got to go. Look forward to hearing from you. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Hi Peter, Yes, it's a great shame that Stanley Pitt hasn't yet received the recogition he deserves here in Australia. One possible reason for this is that he was not allowed to sign the western covers he did for such a long time at Cleveland Publishing. However, with the official "Stanley Pitt Gallery" currently being constructed hopefully this will soon change. That's very interesting to hear about your article. I'm actually collecting information at the moment for an interview Stanley has agreed to participate in. I've found the Sense of Wonder article and also have a brilliant interview from an Australian fanzine called SCIENCE FICTION. Do you have that one? Also, do you know of any other sources of information on Stan Pitt? I've heard that the National Library of Australia has a large recorded interview conducted as part of the 'Australian Cartoonists and Illustrators Oral History Project' but unfortunately this is not allowed to be used outside the library. Do you have Anthony Fury for sale? I'd love to buy it, but the current state of our currency would probably put it way out of my price range. -- Jeremy --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., hansen@s... wrote: > Hey Jerry/Jeremy > > The great Stan Pitt is still alive and still working, though not a > lot these days. He has spent the last 50 years working on covers > for western comics and western books. I have been working on an > article about Stan for a few months now because I think he should > be remembered for his accomplishments in Oz. > > I have a spare copy of John Ryan's book if you are interested > Jeremy as I recently acquired Denis Giffor'd copy at auction, which > is also signed by John. If you still have any copies of Down Under > Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John > Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living > in South Africa. > > I have some editions of the Silver Star reprints done in the > 1950's, some Yarmaks, and Pitt's first comic called Anthony Fury > if you want copies Jeremy let me know. Also a guy called Bryon > Whitworth in France has some excellent reproductions of Silver Star > that he sells. > > In addition to the Pitt article in Star Studded #13, John Ryan also > did an article about Pitt in Sense of Wonder #12, where he > reproduced quite a bit of Bester's Gully Foyle artwork, and went > into great detail about how the American publisher's shafted Pitt > in the 60's when he was trying to get the strip syndicated. Also a > renegade Canadian did a great job of illegaly reproducing Pitt's > Silver Star stuff in Captain Georges Comic World #80. Pitt also > did a couple of pieces for Dc in teh early 1970's, and he also > ghosted on Secret Agent Corrigan in the 1960's. > > Let me know if I can help. > > Peter Hansen > Vancouver, Canada > > ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From customego@yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 21:13:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 17 Jul 2001 04:13:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 56100 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 04:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Jul 2001 04:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 04:12:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.118] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2001 04:12:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 04:12:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: New Issue of The Good Guys & Gals Message-ID: <9j0e06+c7dj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 270 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.249 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi Fanziners, New issue of our Golden Age website "The Good Guys & Gals of the GA" is now online (link below). There seemed to be interest here, so I thought I'd inform you all. Please have a look, let me know what you think. Enjoy, Darrin http://goldenage.cjb.net From ogden@csd.com Tue Jul 17 12:04:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 17 Jul 2001 19:04:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 32058 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.91] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:04:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OT: New Issue of The Good Guys & Gals Message-ID: <9j227u+jt7s@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9j0e06+c7dj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 170 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.62 From: "Steve Ogden" I think it's fabulous! Thanks for the reminder. How can I see Volumes 1 through 14? And, what was the contents of Volumes 1 through 14? Thanks in advance. - Steve From customego@yahoo.com Tue Jul 17 16:29:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 17 Jul 2001 23:29:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8579 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 23:29:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2001 23:29:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.149) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 23:29:06 -0000 Received: from cr253927a ([24.102.2.186]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010717232903.SGUM606.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr253927a> for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:29:03 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c10f17$e5b51980$ba026618@pr1.on.wave.home.com> To: References: <9j227u+jt7s@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: New Issue of The Good Guys & Gals Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:26:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steve, You can get them (issues 1-12) on CD for the small sum of $5. That just covers my costs. Those 12 issues have over 200 profiles of golden age heroes, both well-known, and obscure. Thanks for interest. Darrin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kim.haney@kafb.saia.af.mil Fri Jul 20 08:15:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Kim.Haney@kafb.saia.af.mil X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 20 Jul 2001 15:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 40823 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2001 15:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Jul 2001 15:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO knockout.kirtland.af.mil) (132.62.88.91) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Jul 2001 15:15:06 -0000 Received: from knockout.kirtland.af.mil (root@localhost) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f6KFF6H28138 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from scia_msex.saia.af.mil (kafb.saia.af.mil [132.62.40.111]) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f6KFF6E28133 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by kafb.saia.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:10:40 -0600 Message-ID: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE562@kafb.saia.af.mil> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Fanzine Info: GLORM Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:10:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) From: Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS > Hi: I am looking for info on a fanzine titled GLORM, a mid-1970s fanzine > from San Jose CA. I have issues 9-13 so......I am looking for 1-8 and if > more than 13 were published. It was published by Foster Pub. all contents > copyrighted by James T. Crawford. He is also listed on the back cover as > a contact person for a local Star Trek fan group. Perhaps some Trek fans > may know him. Another name on the fanzine is Adrienne Foster (Foster > Pub.?) who is listed as the person to pay if you want a sub. to GLORM. > Other ads indicate she published other fanzines. Anyone heard of GLORM, > James T. Crawford or Adrienne Foster. > Thanks Kim From flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Fri Jul 20 08:30:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 20 Jul 2001 15:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 92204 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2001 15:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2001 15:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Jul 2001 15:30:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.43] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2001 15:30:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:30:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Almost Normal Reviews! Message-ID: <9j9ipr+uh6n@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 480 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 198.26.130.37 From: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Hey! The new monthly Zine and Comic reviews are up at Almost Normal Comics! Just follow the Reviews! link and click on July's Reviews. Contact info for all the publishers is listed so you can order their zines or comics! And if you have a zine or comic of your own feel free to send it to Almost Normal Comics and it'll be featured in the August reviews! Almost Normal Comics PO Box 12822 Ft. Huachuca, AZ 85670 http://members.tripod.com/almostnormalcomics/ WEE From ditko37@interlog.com Wed Jul 25 00:07:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 25 Jul 2001 07:07:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 38957 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2001 07:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jul 2001 07:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.ca.inter.net) (38.210.35.210) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Jul 2001 07:07:34 -0000 Received: from ip77.toronto98.dialup.canada.psi.net ([154.20.92.77] helo=cr666264-a) by smtp.ca.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15PIlh-0004w8-00; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:07:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20010725025949.0106a7e8@mail.interlog.com> X-Sender: ditko37@mail.interlog.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:59:49 -0400 To: timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Longest S.D. Report In History (From Blake Bell) Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Blake Bell It speaks for itself, folks... http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/sd/sand2001.html Timely-Atlas and Fanzine content, most definitely! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From alortie@tmlp.com Thu Jul 26 11:17:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 26 Jul 2001 18:17:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 61387 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2001 18:16:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jul 2001 18:16:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jul 2001 18:16:29 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 (modem332.tmlp.com [207.86.249.97]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03229; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:16:14 -0400 Message-ID: <003701c115ff$040eb100$61f956cf@tmlp.com> To: , , , "Comics Database List" , , "GCD Chat List" Subject: Larry Herndon's Remember When on eBay Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:15:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" I just placed a number of issues of the early 1970's fanzine Remember When, editted by Larry Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). These mags have a number of comic-related articles strewn among the nostalgic articles, including: episode summaries and pix from the first Flash Gordon serial articles on small comic publishers from the 30's and 40's and their heroes Harvey Kurtzman EC Comics Justice Society of America Green Hornet of the comics MLJ's Black Hood MLJ's The Shield Quality's Uncle Sam Mort Walker on Beetle Bailey, Hi and Lois and Boner's Ark Little Orphan Annie (at 47!) Zane Grey's King of The Royal Mounted strip Search alortie@tmlp.com at http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html to see my listings. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Hathaway Aiken, Physicist and computer pioneer From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jul 26 11:41:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 26 Jul 2001 18:41:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 62373 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2001 18:40:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jul 2001 18:40:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Jul 2001 18:40:41 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.11f.237d6d5 (4395) for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11f.237d6d5.2891be1d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:40:29 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Herndon's Remember When on eBay To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/26/01 11:22:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alortie@tmlp.com writes: > I just placed a number of issues of the early 1970's fanzine Remember When, > editted by Larry Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). > Okay by me. Some people are bothered by posts like this, but I'm not. I prefer this to the post from the guy who invited us to check out his porno web site. That was definitely a big OT. He should've been bounced from the list for that. It was real twisto stuff. --James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Jul 26 11:48:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 26 Jul 2001 18:48:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 82707 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2001 18:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jul 2001 18:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Jul 2001 18:47:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.106] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2001 18:47:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:47:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Herndon's Remember When on eBay Message-ID: <9jpoj4+s26b@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <11f.237d6d5.2891be1d@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 775 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.101 From: flash14221@yahoo.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/26/01 11:22:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > alortie@t... writes: > > > > I just placed a number of issues of the early 1970's fanzine Remember When, > > editted by Larry Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). > >ACTUALY< I"M GLAD WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS TO OUR ATTENTION THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS MATERIAL! IF YOU DON"T CARE,JUST DISREGARD IT! > > Okay by me. Some people are bothered by posts like this, but I'm not. I > prefer this to the post from the guy who invited us to check out his porno > web site. That was definitely a big OT. He should've been bounced from the > list for that. It was real twisto stuff. --James Van Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alortie@tmlp.com Thu Jul 26 13:23:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 26 Jul 2001 20:23:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 49155 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2001 20:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jul 2001 20:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Jul 2001 20:23:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: alortie@tmlp.com Received: from [10.1.10.132] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2001 20:23:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:23:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Herndon's Remember When on eBay Message-ID: <9jpu7k+9jnf@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <11f.237d6d5.2891be1d@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 679 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.86.249.97 From: alortie@tmlp.com >> I just placed a number of issues of the early >> 1970's fanzine Remember When, editted by Larry >> Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). > Okay by me. Some people are bothered by posts > like this, but I'm not. Oops, sorry about that. I went by the assumption that some (besides the poster above) would REALLY want to know if these items were available. Some of the lists I'm on actually encourage this. I don't do it often, and next time I'll offer my items for trade first. That would be acceptable? Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met. - Rodney Dangerfield From ditko37@interlog.com Thu Jul 26 20:07:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 03:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 82923 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 03:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 03:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 03:07:23 -0000 Received: from interlog.com ([209.148.138.245]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GH43C700.4OO for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:07:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3B60DA75.2F020BC3@interlog.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:05:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell >>> I just placed a number of issues of the early >>> 1970's fanzine Remember When, editted by Larry >>> Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). >> >> Okay by me. Some people are bothered by posts >> like this, but I'm not. > > Oops, sorry about that. I went by the assumption that some (besides > the poster above) would REALLY want to know if these items were > available. Some of the lists I'm on actually encourage this. > I don't do it often, and next time I'll offer my items for trade > first. That would be acceptable? Guys, I have NO problem with you advertising your fanzine sales on this list. Rules? Once at the beginning of the auction, once with one day or less left. Just mark it in the Subject header, and feel free to add in the body the NAMES of the fanzines. That's partly why I started this list, so that I would know where to nail this stuff, and an acceptable price to pay (time for someone to put out a fanzine price guide - and no, not him). As for San Diego, I had the pleasure of meeting James Van Hise, fresh off the GOLDEN AGE OF FANZINES panel on Saturday. You guys should have seen all the fanzine covers they had up there, and they were giving away some as doorprizes, too! Jim and I only could have a brief meeting, but it is always nice to put a name to a face. Also, ALTER EGO #9 has a transcript of LAST YEAR'S panel from S.D.. Also had a chance to meet Bud Plant at his booth, with his lovely family (no seed jokes, please). Were there any other listers there? Anyone find anything worthwhile? They had a REALM #4, but I would have killed for #2 and #3 for its Ditko content. No COMIC READERs in the 30s. I did pick up WITZEND #8 for $4, cause of some cover "holes" (even though it had STERLING white pages). Also, to address Jim Van's issue with that strange porno poster, the person was whacked right away. We seemed to have had a few spammers on this list. They join, drop their spam, and then unsubscribe right away. I add their name to the "banned" list, but it's too late by then. I can't believe someone would spend the energy and time for one e-mail like that, when they could buy a CD with a billion addresses on it. Oh well. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Jul 26 20:26:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 03:26:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 63935 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 03:26:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 03:26:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 03:26:27 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.31.183a35b5 (4561) for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31.183a35b5.2892395b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:26:19 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Herndon's Remember When on eBay To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 7/26/01 4:26:34 PM, alortie@tmlp.com writes: << >> I just placed a number of issues of the early >> 1970's fanzine Remember When, editted by Larry >> Herndon, on eBay (ending Sunday). > Okay by me. Some people are bothered by posts > like this, but I'm not. Oops, sorry about that. I went by the assumption that some (besides the poster above) would REALLY want to know if these items were available. Some of the lists I'm on actually encourage this. I don't do it often, and next time I'll offer my items for trade first. That would be acceptable? Arthur Lortie >> I, for one, have no objection to brief announcements of fanzines offerings. This would seem the place where people would be most interested. The fact that I'm not a buyer doesn't prevent me from skipping such commercial messages. Given my years with TV, I'm pretty experienced at skipping commercials unless they feature dancers. Those I love. Maybe I should join a list for dance lovers. Bestest, Jerry From GaryB98294@aol.com Thu Jul 26 21:21:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 04:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 48425 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 04:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 04:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 04:21:01 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.c9.1314f410 (26118) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:20:56 EDT Subject: Re: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10527 From: GaryB98294@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake, Glad you enjoyed the panel at San Diego. I was one of the panel members and it seemed 90 minutes was far too short a time to talk about the early days of fandom and fanzines. It was neat to know I had bought most of those fanzines on the board and had the chance to read them when they first came out. My favorite cover, I think, was the one Dave Herrig did for Odd magazine featuring a young fan in a hovering time machine on the streets of New York City in 1939. He's holding out a dollar bill and says something like: "I'll take 10 issues of Action Comics #1, pelase." Gary Brown [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jul 26 21:42:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 04:42:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 30751 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 04:42:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 04:42:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 04:42:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.12b.2068789 (24897) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12b.2068789.28924b46@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:42:46 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/26/01 9:22:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GaryB98294@aol.com writes: > Glad you enjoyed the panel at San Diego. I was one of the panel members > and > it seemed 90 minutes was far too short a time to talk about the early days > of > Yes, it was. At the beginning I was thinking, "How are we going to fill 90 minutes?" but then it was over in a flash.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hansen@smartt.com Thu Jul 26 21:56:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 04:56:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 55083 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 04:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 04:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 04:56:18 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-ma02011.smartt.com [209.52.3.35]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f6R57d711450 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000801c11656$8b8c22a0$230334d1@hansen> To: References: <12b.2068789.28924b46@aol.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:42:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys It was a great panel to sit and listen to, and from the audience standpoint the 90 minutes just flew over. I also think that Jeff Gelb kept it moving along at just the right pace. I hope you do it again next year. Peter Hansen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. In a message dated 7/26/01 9:22:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GaryB98294@aol.com writes: > Glad you enjoyed the panel at San Diego. I was one of the panel members > and > it seemed 90 minutes was far too short a time to talk about the early days > of > Yes, it was. At the beginning I was thinking, "How are we going to fill 90 minutes?" but then it was over in a flash.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@interlog.com Fri Jul 27 16:49:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 23:49:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 65919 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 23:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 23:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.cybersurf.net) (209.197.145.112) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 23:49:36 -0000 Received: from interlog.com ([209.197.174.24]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GH5OUG00.ULH for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:49:28 -0600 Message-ID: <3B61FDD1.950889F4@interlog.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:48:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Golden Age Of Fanzine San Diego Panels Et Al. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Gary Brown wrote: > Glad you enjoyed the panel at San Diego. I was one of the panel > members and it seemed 90 minutes was far too short a time to talk > about the early days of fandom and fanzines. Jeez, of course, Gary. Sorry that I forgot you were on this list. I would have come up and said hi. I was the tall guy taping the whole thing, and asking about Ditko, at the back. Peter Hansen wrote: > It was a great panel to sit and listen to, and from the audience > standpoint the 90 minutes just flew over. I also think that Jeff > Gelb kept it moving along at just the right pace. I hope you do it > again next year. Another quality individual I forgot to mention meeting was Peter Hansen. He introduced himself as we were both chasing down fanzines on the floor. And now Peter's off on a vacation! Lucky man! :) The panel could have EASILY been two hours, but it was nice to hear what Paul Levitz said about Ditko, given that some people seem to think he's a freak for his philosophy and how strongly he applies it. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From ditko37@interlog.com Mon Jul 30 17:07:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@interlog.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 31 Jul 2001 00:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7546 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2001 00:06:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jul 2001 00:06:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.total.net) (154.11.89.167) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 00:06:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29358 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2001 20:14:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cr666264-a) (154.20.88.250) by rossine.total.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2001 20:14:09 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20010730161205.00f8a940@mail.interlog.com> X-Sender: ditko37@mail.interlog.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:12:05 -0400 To: dcwarcomics-list@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT : It's A Bird! It's A Plane! It's Another DITKO LOOKED UPdate! Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Blake Bell Glory be, folks, we're back with another amazing DITKO LOOKED UPdate! What's new this time? 1) Check out the NEWS section for info. on the official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site, designed by me! And my first-ever published article is out now in COMIC BOOK ARTIST #14! Also, for the first time, you'll be able to receive e-mails from me every time the site is updated! See the section for all the details! 2) THE ARTIST section is on fire this time, as we've dug up an unidentified piece of mid-'60s Dr. Strange artwork! What's the story? Check it out! Also...wait for it...ANOTHER newly-discovered Ditko Charlton Romance story! Can you believe it? Both fall under the MISCELLANEOUS sub-section at #18 and #19 respectively. The BIOGRAPHY sub-section has my report of the 2001 San Diego Comic-Convention - the first time I ever attended the event! Tons of visuals to boot! 3) Check out our new front-page logo, & background design on our FRONT PAGE! 4) We've cleaned up the LINKS AND CREDITS page to include the new official Snyder and Ditko web-site, as well as a link to my new Comic Book Fanzines yahoogroups mailing list! Join up and talk about Ditko's contribution to the world of fanzines. Several key players from the '60s and '70s are on the list, ready to share their experiences, so join up today! You can view all the links to what's new in the WHAT'S NEW section at... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7437/ditko/whatsnew.html And the URL to the main page of the site is in my signature below. As always, commentary and contributions are always welcome! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From JerryBails@aol.com Thu Aug 02 18:07:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 01:07:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 41023 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 01:06:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 01:06:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 01:06:44 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id w.a3.19a850fe (4563); Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:06:39 EDT Subject: Final Who's Who issue is now available to all for free To: cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no, cdbl@fm.cybercomm.no, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com It have just posted the final files in the Who's Who of 20th Century American Comic Books at http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ These files cover titles of comics published in the United States and Canada during the 20th century, plus a few auxiliary files (reprint albums, imported English editions of non-American titles, and comics-related pocket books). All the files in this 20th installment are available to one and all. You can download them from the address above. They load into any database or spread sheet for greatest utility, although you can also load them into a word processor. Read the file LASTWORD.txt for further details. Jon L. will be incorporating my files into a searchable online database in the near future, at which time I hope the GCD can set up a procedure for updating the listing of titles. I am retiring from data-entry for awhile. I need a break, so please hold off on any additions and corrections for now. Enjoy. Bestest, Jerry From leonardo.desa@netc.pt Thu Aug 02 19:26:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: leonardo.desa@netc.pt X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 02:26:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 87891 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 02:25:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 02:25:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.netc.pt) (212.18.191.178) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 02:25:28 -0000 Received: from l3t3o2 (p120-225.netc.pt [213.30.59.120]) by smtp.netc.pt (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f733PN710906; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:25:25 GMT Message-ID: <003101c11bc4$532a36e0$783b1ed5@l3t3o2> To: "Comics Database List" , , References: Subject: Re: GCD - Final Who's Who issue is now available to all for free Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:30:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_De_S=E1?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congratulations, Jerry, on the final issue of your Who's Who. This is definitely a landmark to the history of comics for decades to come. I know it will take me that much time to flip thru it. I wouldn't know how to begin to thank you. Leo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mgilbert@efn.org Fri Aug 03 05:50:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 12:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 78785 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 12:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 12:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (206.163.176.10) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 12:50:36 -0000 Received: from [206.163.181.148] (56k-020.efn.org [206.163.181.148]) by clavin.efn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f73CoZS10418 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:50:35 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:44:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 133 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <996837857.144.94822.l10@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable From: "Michael T. Gilbert" A huge "CONGRATULATIONS!" Jerry. I can't begin to imagine how many hours you've personally put into this project, but it must be a staggering number= . The Who's Who has been extrememly useful to me when I need info for "Mr. Monster's Comic Crypt" in Alter Ego. The Who's Who is clearly the most ambitious fan project ever done in our field=AD=ADby far . It's a personal testiment to you dedication and endurance that you were able to complete it= . Excellent job, Jerry! Best wishes, Michael T. > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 3 Aug 2001 11:24:17 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 133 >=20 >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:06:39 EDT > From: JerryBails@aol.com > Subject: Final Who's Who issue is now available to all for free >=20 > It have just posted the final files in the Who's Who of 20th Century Amer= ican > Comic Books at > http://www.nostromo.no/whoswho/ >=20 > These files cover titles of comics published in the United States and Can= ada > during the 20th century, plus a few auxiliary files (reprint albums, impo= rted > English editions of non-American titles, and comics-related pocket books)= . > All the files in this 20th installment are available to one and all. You= can > download them from the address above. They load into any database or spr= ead > sheet for greatest utility, although you can also load them into a word > processor. Read the file LASTWORD.txt for further details. >=20 > Jon L. will be incorporating my files into a searchable online database i= n > the near future, at which time I hope the GCD can set up a procedure for > updating the listing of titles. I am retiring from data-entry for awhile= . I > need a break, so please hold off on any additions and corrections for now= . >=20 > Enjoy. >=20 > Bestest, >=20 > Jerry >=20 From alortie@tmlp.com Fri Aug 03 08:30:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 15:30:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 62128 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 15:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 15:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 15:30:18 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 (modem464.tmlp.com [207.86.249.229]) by mail.tmlp.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00158; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:30:02 -0400 Message-ID: <00b001c11c31$288eb1a0$e2f956cf@tmlp.com> To: Cc: "GCD Chat List" Subject: Golden Age #6 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:29:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" Anyone one have a copy of the fanzine Golden Age #6? I'm trying to get scans of the Famous Funnies index that I think is included within. Thanks in advance Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 If you can remember the sixties, you weren't really there. -- Steve Cropper From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Aug 03 08:54:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 15:54:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 42617 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 15:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 15:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 15:54:09 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.67.17c85b49 (4401) for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <67.17c85b49.289c230d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:53:49 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Golden Age #6 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10532 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/3/01 8:32:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alortie@tmlp.com writes: > Anyone one have a copy of the fanzine Golden Age #6? I'm trying to get scans > It's actually a two page article discussing what strips were in the book and what strips were added in which issues. Not really an index, unfortunately. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alortie@tmlp.com Fri Aug 03 12:02:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 19:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 38706 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 19:01:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: alortie@tmlp.com Received: from [10.1.10.34] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2001 19:01:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:01:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Golden Age #6 Message-ID: <9kesf3+emr4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <67.17c85b49.289c230d@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 597 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.86.249.71 From: alortie@tmlp.com > > Anyone one have a copy of the fanzine Golden Age > > #6? I'm trying to get scans > It's actually a two page article discussing what > strips were in the book and what strips were added > in which issues. Not really an index, unfortunately. Oh. I was hoping it would yield info like: Lightnin' and Lone Rider #61=76? [61 is an ad] Speed Spaulding #72=88 Connie #1=85 Invisible Scarlet O'Neill #81=167 No such luck, huh? Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 If you can remember the sixties, you weren't really there. -- Steve Cropper From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Aug 03 13:12:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 20:12:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 43776 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 20:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 20:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 20:12:37 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.121.28eb96d (4208) for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <121.28eb96d.289c5faf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:12:31 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 133 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 8/3/01 8:52:53 AM, mgilbert@efn.org writes: << A huge "CONGRATULATIONS!" Jerry. I can't begin to imagine how many hours you've personally put into this project, but it must be a staggering number. The Who's Who has been extrememly useful to me when I need info for "Mr. Monster's Comic Crypt" in Alter Ego. The Who's Who is clearly the most ambitious fan project ever done in our field--by far . It's a personal testiment to you dedication and endurance that you were able to complete it. Excellent job, Jerry! Best wishes, Michael T. >> Michael, if it serves those of you writing about comics, then I'm well repaid. I just wanted to get the credits out there for that long period when comics artists were anonymous. I just got carried away. It is fun to discover a favorite comics artist or writer in another medium. I recall the first time I spotted Gardner Fox's name elsewhere. It led me to write him, and ultimately to my completing my collection of All-Star Comics in the mid-50s by paying Gar $75 for his 2 bound volmes #1-12 and #13-24. It was about 5 years later before Roy found me through Gardner, and I discovered I wasn't the only JSA fan in the world. I just ran across some of my old nickle spiral notebooks in which I began recording the names of comics artists. I had to write the names down because I'm lousy at remembering names. Now, I have something in excess of 13,000 names in the Who's Who. What a strange hobby for someone who has trouble with names. By the way, you re-creation of the monster cover of All-Star #20 is mounted on the wall opposite my bed, so you are never far from my thoughts. (What did you say your name was again?) Seriously, your fans can drool with envy while admiring the reproduction of that original shown in All-Star Companion, page 77. I love it. Thanks a million. Bestest, Jerry From ditko37@sympatico.ca Mon Aug 06 22:22:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 05:22:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 62306 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 05:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 05:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 05:22:12 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.230.6.63]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010807052211.IPP28468.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3B6F7A83.D1B74609@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 01:20:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT : www.snyder-ditko.com has been UPDATED!... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell ...with a potentially tasty Ditko treat. Check out the WEB EXCLUSIVE section. You won't regret it. Robert Kanigher fans won't want to miss out on this update either! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From tlatner@pipeline.com Tue Aug 07 05:45:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tlatner@pipeline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 12:45:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 66941 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 12:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 12:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 12:45:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tlatner@pipeline.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2001 12:45:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:45:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9konss+lm9q@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 410 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 169.71.1.245 From: "Ted Latner" Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? It was supposedly published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The piece is dated 1985. I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l group, but so far nobody's been able to ID this piece. Thanks, Ted Latner http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to what the URL implies. Thanks.) From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 06:49:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 13:49:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 37977 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 13:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 13:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11606.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.58) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 13:48:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20010807134849.48358.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11606.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 06:48:49 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9konss+lm9q@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov it sort of looks like john carter of mars or Blackmark, it could be just an illustration idea or concept that he was thinking about at the time of starhawks --- Ted Latner wrote: > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? > It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The > piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l > group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to > what the URL > implies. Thanks.) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 06:50:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 13:50:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 6413 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 13:49:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 13:49:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11604.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.56) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 13:49:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20010807134933.79976.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 06:49:33 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9konss+lm9q@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov sorry, it is a beautiful piece tho, i have a page from black panther that he did, just as beautiful --- Ted Latner wrote: > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? > It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The > piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l > group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to > what the URL > implies. Thanks.) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From kim.haney@kafb.saia.af.mil Tue Aug 07 07:16:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Kim.Haney@kafb.saia.af.mil X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 14:16:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 98590 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 14:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 14:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO knockout.kirtland.af.mil) (132.62.88.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 14:16:11 -0000 Received: from knockout.kirtland.af.mil (root@localhost) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f77EG9o26338 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from scia_msex.saia.af.mil (kafb.saia.af.mil [132.62.40.111]) by knockout.kirtland.af.mil with ESMTP id f77EG9626332 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by kafb.saia.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:11:32 -0600 Message-ID: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE598@kafb.saia.af.mil> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:11:32 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) From: Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS It looks like a Sword of Atom illustration to me. Could be from the Atom's time in the jungle. ??? -----Original Message----- From: Ted Latner [mailto:tlatner@pipeline.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:45 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? It was supposedly published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The piece is dated 1985. I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l group, but so far nobody's been able to ID this piece. Thanks, Ted Latner http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to what the URL implies. Thanks.) To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Tue Aug 07 08:50:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 15:50:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 49452 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 15:48:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 15:48:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 15:48:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jasonsacks@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2001 15:48:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 15:48:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9kp2kp+bcr6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE598@kafb.saia.af.mil> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 991 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 131.107.3.79 From: "Jason Sacks" It's definitely not from Sword of the Atom. The costume in SOTA is different, and there's no horse that matches that image. I agree with Nick, it's probably either a John Carter illo or Kane playing with an idea. - Jason > It looks like a Sword of Atom illustration to me. Could be from the Atom's > time in the jungle. ??? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Latner [mailto:tlatner@p...] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:45 AM > To: comicbookfanzines@y... > Subject: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? > > > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to what the URL > implies. Thanks.) > > From customego@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 09:53:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 16:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 65663 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 16:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 16:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.254.60.15) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 16:53:09 -0000 Received: from cr253927a ([24.102.2.186]) by femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010807165308.GPVQ18714.femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr253927a>; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:53:08 -0700 Message-ID: <002301c11f61$622a1b60$ba026618@pr1.on.wave.home.com> To: , Subject: The Good Guys & Gals Issue #17 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:52:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Another new issue of The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age is now available at (http://goldenage.cjb.net). That's right, after only 3 weeks we have another issue ready for your viewing pleasure. All comments welcomed. Take Care, Darrin The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age http://goldenage.cjb.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 10:58:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 17:58:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 95843 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11604.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.56) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 17:57:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20010807175747.13432.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:57:47 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9kp2kp+bcr6@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov thanks for backing me on that, jason.... --- Jason Sacks wrote: > It's definitely not from Sword of the Atom. The > costume in SOTA is > different, and there's no horse that matches that > image. I agree with > Nick, it's probably either a John Carter illo or > Kane playing with an > idea. > > - Jason > > > It looks like a Sword of Atom illustration to me. > Could be from > the Atom's > > time in the jungle. ??? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Latner [mailto:tlatner@p...] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:45 AM > > To: comicbookfanzines@y... > > Subject: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane > illustration? > > > > > > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? > It was > supposedly > > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. > The piece is dated > > 1985. > > > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l > group, but so > far > > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > > > Thanks, > > Ted Latner > > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary > to what the URL > > implies. Thanks.) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 11:07:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 7 Aug 2001 18:07:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 89664 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 18:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2001 18:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.59) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 18:06:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20010807180627.80105.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:06:27 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <100C28070697D411BB2D00508B0E73111BE598@kafb.saia.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov nope, it has horses in it --- Haney Kim R LtCol AFIA/FOS wrote: > It looks like a Sword of Atom illustration to me. > Could be from the Atom's > time in the jungle. ??? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Latner [mailto:tlatner@pipeline.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:45 AM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Anyone recognize this Gil Kane > illustration? > > > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? > It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The > piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l > group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to > what the URL > implies. Thanks.) > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From flash14221@yahoo.com Tue Aug 07 18:20:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 01:20:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 22467 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 01:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 01:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 01:19:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.65] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2001 01:19:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 01:19:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9kq42d+rsfh@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9konss+lm9q@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 715 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.246.19.136 From: flash14221@yahoo.com -Well, Horses- Not JCofM, not Blackmark ( Those horses had horns, right?), not SOTA, not Gullivar of Mars, not Thongor. Could be from Ring or as has been said a new idea. Gil had a million of 'em! Gord -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Ted Latner" wrote: > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to what the URL > implies. Thanks.) From tlatner@pipeline.com Wed Aug 08 07:28:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tlatner@pipeline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 14:28:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12242 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 14:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 14:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 14:26:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tlatner@pipeline.com Received: from [10.1.2.208] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2001 14:26:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:26:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9kri6s+f10k@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9konss+lm9q@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 644 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 169.71.1.249 From: "Ted Latner" Thanks to everyone for the feedback. Please let me know if you ever find out where this was published (assuming it was). Thanks, Ted L. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Ted Latner" wrote: > Does anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? It was supposedly > published as the cover or a pinup in a fanzine. The piece is dated > 1985. > > I already tried asking the Gil Kane and comicart-l group, but so far > nobody's been able to ID this piece. > > Thanks, > Ted Latner > http://www.comicsfun.com/art4sale/gkanerider.gif > > (By the way, the piece is not for sale, contrary to what the URL > implies. Thanks.) From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Aug 08 08:05:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 15:05:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10522 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 15:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 15:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 15:00:57 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.45.a4c25fb (15900) for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web48.aolmail.aol.com (web48.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.9]) by air-id09.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINID93-0808110051; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:00:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:00:51 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <45.a4c25fb.28a2ae23@aol.com> From: srowecanoe@aol.com <> I suspect it might have ran in a sf-fantasy zine (maybe an Burroughs fanzine), rather than a comic book fanzine. You might try one of those groups. steven rowe From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Aug 08 08:21:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 15:21:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 37833 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 15:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 15:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 15:18:32 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.8f.e7bbf81 (4218) for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:18:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8f.e7bbf81.28a2b232@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:18:10 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10532 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/8/01 8:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > I suspect it might have ran in a sf-fantasy zine (maybe an Burroughs > fanzine), rather than a comic book fanzine. You might try one of those > I see a lot of fanzines and never saw that illo before. The amount of work in it suggests that it was a private commission for which Kane was well paid as it's vastly superior to his fanzine illos which, while good art, weren't as superior as this illustration is. --JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tazwert@yahoo.com Wed Aug 08 09:30:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 16:30:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 80772 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 16:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 16:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13808.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 16:28:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20010808162851.53826.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.40.180.142] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 09:28:51 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: John Buscema To: List - Yahoo! Fanzines , Bronze Age List - Yahoo! Cc: OSU Cartoon Research Library , Off-Topic List , Will Eisner List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert Has anyone heard this info about John Buscema? I hesitated forwarding this on because of the John Statema hoax, but better the truth come out that perpetuate a lie. --- Paul Ewert - MCBA Webmaster wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Paul Ewert - MCBA Webmaster > Subject: Fwd: John Buscema > To: tazwert@yahoo.com, > > --- MCBA Webmaster wrote: > > From: "MCBA Webmaster" > > To: > > Subject: John Buscema > > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:08:29 -0500 > > > > Message: 24 > > Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:25:37 -0000 > > From: Gartfam@webtv.net > > Subject: John Buscema Very Ill > > > > Hello Group, > > I just read that John Buscema is terminally ill > > with advanced stomach > > cancer, I'm very sorry to report this. 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No > > estimate on how far along the cancer is, or how > > much longer he will be > > with us. > > cards and notes can be sent to his home: > > > > John Buscema > > 104 Oaklawn Drive > > Port Jefferson, NY 11777-1510 > > > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > > > > ===== > ============================================================ > Paul Ewert, The Everlovin' Blue Eyed Webmaster of > the MCBA. > > Visit our Website: http://www.mncba.com > ============================================================ ===== *********************************************************** "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he's a baby." - Natalie Wood (1938 - 1981) Join The Quotes DuJour mailing list! Send a blank e-mail to: quotes-dujour-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ============================================================ )** /\ FallCon 2001 http://www.mncba.com/ /\ **( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From tlatner@pipeline.com Wed Aug 08 12:04:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tlatner@pipeline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 19:04:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 46009 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 19:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 19:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 19:03:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tlatner@pipeline.com Received: from [10.1.2.133] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2001 19:03:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 19:02:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9ks2cv+efeg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8f.e7bbf81.28a2b232@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 904 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 169.71.1.245 From: "Ted Latner" Thanks Jim. The person who I bought it from thought it was a cover from the Comics Journal, but Gary Groth told me that wasn't the case. It might very well be a commission piece. It's just too bad Gil isn't around to tell me either way :( --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > In a message dated 8/8/01 8:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > srowecanoe@a... writes: > > > > I suspect it might have ran in a sf-fantasy zine (maybe an Burroughs > > fanzine), rather than a comic book fanzine. You might try one of those > > > > I see a lot of fanzines and never saw that illo before. The amount of work in > it suggests that it was a private commission for which Kane was well paid as > it's vastly superior to his fanzine illos which, while good art, weren't as > superior as this illustration is. --JVH > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Aug 08 13:17:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Aug 2001 20:17:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24640 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2001 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 20:15:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.211] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2001 20:15:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:15:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Anyone recognize this Gil Kane illustration? Message-ID: <9ks6l1+m9nr@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9ks2cv+efeg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1084 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.71 From: flash14221@yahoo.com -It looks like a reworked JASON DRUMM concept piece. Gord -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Ted Latner" wrote: > Thanks Jim. The person who I bought it from thought it was a cover > from the Comics Journal, but Gary Groth told me that wasn't the > case. It might very well be a commission piece. It's just too bad > Gil isn't around to tell me either way :( > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 8/8/01 8:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > srowecanoe@a... writes: > > > > > > > I suspect it might have ran in a sf-fantasy zine (maybe an > Burroughs > > > fanzine), rather than a comic book fanzine. You might try one of > those > > > > > > > I see a lot of fanzines and never saw that illo before. The amount > of work in > > it suggests that it was a private commission for which Kane was > well paid as > > it's vastly superior to his fanzine illos which, while good art, > weren't as > > superior as this illustration is. --JVH > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From customego@yahoo.com Thu Aug 09 11:48:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 9 Aug 2001 18:48:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 82085 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 18:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2001 18:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com) (24.0.95.82) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 18:48:20 -0000 Received: from cr253927a ([24.102.2.186]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010809184820.EVGW1520.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr253927a> for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:48:20 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01c12103$bf7021e0$ba026618@pr1.on.wave.home.com> To: Subject: Ama-Hero Online...now online Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:47:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, Even though there's not lots of stuff there yet, I will be updating on a weekly basis. Any help anyone wants to provide is always welcomed. Have a look, and let me know what you think. Take Care, Darrin Ama-Hero Online http://amahero.cjb.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Sun Aug 12 15:20:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 12 Aug 2001 22:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 58798 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 22:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2001 22:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 22:20:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2001 22:20:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:20:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Interview with and articles by Gil Kane Message-ID: <9l6vg2+n8lm@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3857 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.43.6.65 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com I collect Kane prose as much as I collect Kane art. Here's a list of what I'm aware of. If you know of any interviews with or articles by Kane that aren't listed here, could you please respond with details? Can anybody send me a photocopy of the Kane interview in CANAR #18-19? Thanks. -Mark Mayerson Alter Ego Vol. 1 #10, 1969. "A/E Interview: Gil Kane" pps. 4-18. Reprinted in the trade paperback Alter Ego - The Best of the Legendary Comics Fanzine edited by Roy Thomas and Bill Schelly. Alter Ego Vol. 3 #3, Winter 2000. "'Stan was the Prince...' - Gil Kane on Timely Comics" pps. 34-42. Alter Ego Vol. 3 #5, Summer 2000. "Gil Kane on Comics - Past, Present and Future" pps. 16-20 Alter Ego: The Comic Book Artist Collection, trade paperback, 2001. "'There Was Nothing We Couldn't Do' - Roy Thomas' Final Interview with Gil Kane" pps. 151-159 Amazing Heroes #177, March 1990. "Gil Kane on the State of the Art" pps.23-31. Comic Art and Graffix Gallery (http://www.comic-art.com/intervws/ kanegil1.htm), date unknown. "Gil Kane Interview" Comic Book Artist #2, Summer 1998. "The Mark of Kane - An Interview with Marvel's Cover Man" pps. 38-41. Comic Book Artist #5, Summer 1999. "Gil Kane: Man of Action - A chat About Captain Action and His Late '60's DC Work" pps 36-37 The Comics Journal #38, Feb. 1977. "An Interview with Gil Kane" pps. 34-46. The Comics Journal #64, July 1981. "Forum - Gil Kane and Denny O'Neil on Comics Writing" pps 61-79. The Comics Journal #75, Sept. 1982. "Gil Kane on the Evolution of Comics Artists and the State of the Art" pps. 52-61. The Comics Journal #91, (date?). "Pencillers" A convention panel transcript with Brent Anderson, Gil Kane, Joe Kubert, Steve Leialoha, Jerry Ordway, Bill Sienkiewicz, and Trevor Von Eeden. pps 47-76. "Kane and Chaykin" A convention panel transcript where Chaykin interviews Kane. pps. 67-77. The Comics Journal #105, Feb. 1986. "Peer Pressure - Gil Kane, Wendy Pini, Kenneth Smith and Gary Groth Discuss Marvel's Holding of Kirby's Art" pps. 69-74. The Comics Journal #113, December 1986. "The Shape of Art" Gary Groth moderates a convention panel discussion between R. Crumb and Gil Kane. pps. 58-65. The Comics Journal #126, Jan. 1989. "South of Olympus. Skipping the Ideal for the Real" by Gil Kane. p. 135. The Comics Journal #140, Feb. 1991. Walt Kelly interviewed by Gil Kane. Transcript of a National Cartoonist Society panel from November, 1969. pps. 51-58. The Comics Journal #184, Feb. 1996. "Kane on Hogarth" p. 21. The Comics Journal #186, April 1996. "Gil Kane: Reflections on 50 Years in Comics by the Outspoken Critic, Zestful Raconteur, and Legendary Artist" pps. 46-109. The Comics Journal #187, May 1996. "Gil Kane Part II" pps. 77-103. The Comics Journal #226, Aug. 2000. "It's Easy to Love Ava Gardner" pps. 76-96. Gil Kane - The Art of the Comics by Daniel Herman, Hermes Press 2001. "Gil Kane: An Interview" pps. 180-185. Gil Kane's Savage #1, 1982. "Kane on Savage - An Interview with the Creator" pps 48-54. Harvard Journal of Pictorial Fiction #1, Spring 1974. "Bypassing the Real for the Ideal" pps. 16-23. Partially reprinted in The Jack Kirby Collector #19, April 1998. How to Draw Art for Comic Books by James Van Hise, Pioneer Press, 1989. Chapter on Gil Kane, pps.95-114. Reprinted in full in The Rocket's Blast and the Comic Collector #1. The Jack Kirby Collector #21, Oct. 1998. "Gil Kane on Jack Kirby" pps. 40-47. Richmond Comics Website (http://www.richmondcomix.com/irving/ kane.html), 1998. "Raising Kane: Comics Legend Gil Kane Talks About the State of the Industry" The Spirit #28, April 1981. Shop Talk with Will Eisner featuring Gil Kane. pps 21-25. Reprinted in Gil Kane's Savage and the trade paperback collection Will Eisner's Shop Talk. From mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Mon Aug 13 07:03:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 13 Aug 2001 14:03:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 66382 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2001 14:03:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2001 14:03:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.134) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 14:03:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com Received: from [10.1.10.66] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2001 14:03:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:03:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Interview with and articles by Gil Kane Message-ID: <9l8mnc+tv73@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9l6vg2+n8lm@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 4310 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.43.6.65 From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com I had a copy of Canar 18-19 and didn't realize it, so here's the Kane interview info. Comic Art News and Review #18-19, Feb-Mar 1974. "An Interview with Gil Kane" pps. 9-13. -Mark Mayerson --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., mayerson@m... wrote: > I collect Kane prose as much as I collect Kane > art. Here's a list of what I'm aware of. If you know of any > interviews with or articles by Kane that aren't listed here, could > you please respond with details? > > Can anybody send me a photocopy of the Kane interview in CANAR > #18-19? > > Thanks. > > -Mark Mayerson > > Alter Ego Vol. 1 #10, 1969. "A/E Interview: Gil Kane" pps. 4-18. > Reprinted in the trade paperback Alter Ego - The Best of the > Legendary Comics Fanzine edited by Roy Thomas and Bill Schelly. > > Alter Ego Vol. 3 #3, Winter 2000. "'Stan was the > Prince...' - Gil Kane on Timely Comics" pps. 34-42. > > Alter Ego Vol. 3 #5, Summer 2000. "Gil Kane on > Comics - Past, Present and Future" pps. 16-20 > > Alter Ego: The Comic Book Artist Collection, > trade paperback, 2001. "'There Was Nothing We Couldn't Do' - Roy > Thomas' Final Interview with Gil Kane" pps. 151-159 > > Amazing Heroes #177, March 1990. "Gil Kane on the > State of the Art" pps.23-31. > > Comic Art and Graffix Gallery (http://www.comic-art.com/intervws/ > kanegil1.htm), date unknown. "Gil Kane Interview" > > Comic Book Artist #2, Summer 1998. "The Mark of > Kane - An Interview with Marvel's Cover Man" pps. 38-41. > > Comic Book Artist #5, Summer 1999. "Gil Kane: > Man of Action - A chat About Captain Action and His Late '60's DC > Work" pps 36-37 > > The Comics Journal #38, Feb. 1977. "An Interview > with Gil Kane" pps. 34-46. > > The Comics Journal #64, July 1981. "Forum - Gil > Kane and Denny O'Neil on Comics Writing" pps 61-79. > > The Comics Journal #75, Sept. 1982. "Gil Kane on > the Evolution of Comics Artists and the State of the Art" pps. > 52-61. > > The Comics Journal #91, (date?). "Pencillers" A > convention panel transcript with Brent Anderson, Gil Kane, Joe > Kubert, Steve Leialoha, Jerry Ordway, Bill Sienkiewicz, and Trevor > Von Eeden. pps 47-76. "Kane and Chaykin" A convention panel > transcript where Chaykin interviews Kane. pps. 67-77. > > The Comics Journal #105, Feb. 1986. "Peer > Pressure - Gil Kane, Wendy Pini, Kenneth Smith and Gary Groth Discuss > Marvel's Holding of Kirby's Art" pps. 69-74. > > The Comics Journal #113, December 1986. "The Shape of Art" Gary > Groth moderates a convention panel discussion between R. Crumb and Gil > Kane. pps. 58-65. > > The Comics Journal #126, Jan. 1989. "South of > Olympus. Skipping the Ideal for the Real" by Gil Kane. p. 135. > > The Comics Journal #140, Feb. 1991. Walt Kelly > interviewed by Gil Kane. Transcript of a National Cartoonist > Society panel from November, 1969. pps. 51-58. > > The Comics Journal #184, Feb. 1996. "Kane on Hogarth" p. 21. > > The Comics Journal #186, April 1996. "Gil Kane: Reflections on 50 > Years in Comics by the Outspoken Critic, Zestful Raconteur, and > Legendary Artist" pps. 46-109. > > The Comics Journal #187, May 1996. "Gil Kane Part II" pps. 77-103. > > The Comics Journal #226, Aug. 2000. "It's Easy to Love Ava Gardner" > pps. 76-96. > > Gil Kane - The Art of the Comics by Daniel Herman, Hermes Press 2001. > "Gil Kane: An Interview" pps. 180-185. > > Gil Kane's Savage #1, 1982. "Kane on Savage - An > Interview with the Creator" pps 48-54. > > Harvard Journal of Pictorial Fiction #1, Spring > 1974. "Bypassing the Real for the Ideal" pps. 16-23. Partially > reprinted in The Jack Kirby Collector #19, April 1998. > > How to Draw Art for Comic Books by James Van > Hise, Pioneer Press, 1989. Chapter on Gil Kane, pps.95-114. > Reprinted in full in The Rocket's Blast and the Comic Collector #1. > > The Jack Kirby Collector #21, Oct. 1998. "Gil Kane on Jack Kirby" > pps. 40-47. > > Richmond Comics Website (http://www.richmondcomix.com/irving/ > kane.html), 1998. "Raising Kane: Comics Legend > Gil Kane Talks About the State of the Industry" > > The Spirit #28, April 1981. Shop Talk with Will > Eisner featuring Gil Kane. pps 21-25. Reprinted in Gil Kane's > Savage and the trade paperback collection Will Eisner's Shop Talk. From bud@budplant.com Mon Aug 13 10:17:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: bud@budplant.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 13 Aug 2001 17:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23946 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2001 17:17:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2001 17:17:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 17:17:00 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GI0003UGO0CPV@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:19:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 138 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <002101c1241c$1d042660$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <997688107.1100.1727.l10@yahoogroups.com> From: Bud Plant Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:35 AM Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 138 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Interview with and articles by Gil Kane > From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:20:50 -0000 > From: mayerson@monsterbymistake.com > Subject: Interview with and articles by Gil Kane > > I collect Kane prose as much as I collect Kane > art. Here's a list of what I'm aware of. If you know of any > interviews with or articles by Kane that aren't listed here, could > you please respond with details? > > Can anybody send me a photocopy of the Kane interview in CANAR > #18-19? > > Thanks. > > -Mark Mayerson > Dear Mark: I didn't see in your list the brand new book that just came out at San Diego Con, written by a big fan of Kane. Here is an unabashed description; its listed on my website www.budplant.com. There was also a hardcover edition but the publisher did not make it available wholesale and in fact may have sold out the hardcover printing. GIL KANE: THE ART OF THE COMICS By Daniel Herman. A comprehensive look at the life and work of Gil Kane. This volume showcases his talents as a comic artist, but goes further by building a background of personal information and explorations into animation. Included is a chronological glossary of all included works, and an interview with the master. More than 250 illustrations including covers for Green Lantern, Iron Man, Sub-Mariner, The Atom, Rawhide Kid, Thor; plus panels from "Conan," "Spider-Man," "Captain Action," "Blackmark"; 16-page color gallery; and more. Hermes, 2001. SC, 8x11, 190 pages, PC. PRODUCT CODE: GIL PRICE: $29.99 Best, Bud Plant From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Aug 14 21:13:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 15 Aug 2001 04:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 72381 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 04:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Aug 2001 04:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 04:13:46 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.3.) id r.bc.18b5e533 (8233); Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:13:40 EDT Subject: Searching for John McGeehan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com Does anyone have a current address for John McGeehan. Jon Swartz, who is doing research on fanzines, wants to reach him. Bestest, Jerry Bails From GaryB98294@aol.com Wed Aug 15 00:07:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaryB98294@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 15 Aug 2001 07:07:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 87284 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 07:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2001 07:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 07:07:56 -0000 Received: from GaryB98294@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.3.) id r.11b.2f24c02 (6397) for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11b.2f24c02.28ab79c9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:07:53 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Searching for John McGeehan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10527 From: GaryB98294@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John McGeehan died many years ago. However, his brother Tom is still active in CAPA-alpha and lives at: 405 E. Fifth St., Santa Ana, CA 92701. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beepo@whatisdeepfried.com Sun Aug 19 22:40:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 20 Aug 2001 05:40:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 13773 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2001 05:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Aug 2001 05:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 05:40:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com Received: from [10.1.10.117] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2001 05:40:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 05:40:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Animation from Deep Fried Message-ID: <9lq7rh+4ioj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 445 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.30.154.106 From: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com There is a stoney new animated cartoon called "4:20" for you to feast your eyes on at http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/megoplex.html, starring Beepo and Roadkill of the "Deep Fried" comic book! And while you are there, enjoy the other animated features, like "How Darth Vader Got His Groove Back", and read the online comic strips too! What a bounty of humor, and all for FREE! Skip, don't run, to http://www.whatisdeepfried.com! Jason From jmain44@yahoo.com Sun Aug 26 11:55:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 26 Aug 2001 18:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 39143 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2001 18:54:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2001 18:54:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.44) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Aug 2001 18:54:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.127] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2001 18:54:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:54:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! Message-ID: <9mbglq+4hkn@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 469 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.201.78 From: "James Richard Christopher Main, Jr." Hey group- I'm doing a publication called "TALES FROM FANDOM" which will harken back to the days of faan fiction/comics with material about fans, by fans. Kind of like True Fan Adventure Theatre. Fiction/strips about almost anything, but with comic fans/fandom as the central focus...past, present, future...if you have any ideas and want to submit material to this new 'zine, contact me at jmain44@aol.com... Thanks, Jim From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sun Aug 26 20:18:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 27 Aug 2001 03:18:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 74434 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2001 03:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2001 03:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 03:18:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.123] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2001 03:18:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 03:18:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: another fanzine editor introduction Message-ID: <9mce5n+4bvk@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010220073940.00699b70@mail.ohio.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1434 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.37.220 From: "Rob Gustaveson" That is very funny and true! The first "comic store" I worked for (and no one knows this) was Collector's Book Store in Hollywood (they were in what was a former bank at the time--I knew them when they were in a closet several blocks away too). Anyway they use to joke with me and other zine writers, artists and publishers about my idea of uniting a bunch of fanzines under the title Cosmic Wind Enterprises. They joked about it every damn time I visited their store. (Along with their buddies at Bond Street bookstore). Cosmic gas...phew... (Shall I mention pun funds?). SMASH or LASFS. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Tony Isabella wrote: > At 03:28 AM 2/19/2001 -0000, Lyle wrote: > > >(I *love* the fact that you called the Oklahoman zine, OAF - Hah! Nice > sense >of humor).<<< > > Fandom has usually had the grace to take itself somewhat less than > completely serious. Remember TISOS (The Illegitimate Sons of Superman)? > > When I started a comics club in Cleveland in the early 1970s--a year or so > prior to my moving to NYC to work for Marvel--I called it the Graphic Arts > Society because I knew it would be abbreviated to GAS. To my delight, the > obvious jokes were made and made frequently. > > Tony Isabella > > > ********************************* > Tony's Tips: > http://www.wfcomics.com/tony > > Mailing address: > Tony Isabella > P.O. Box 1502 > Medina, OH 44258 From maryellen568@webtv.net Mon Aug 27 13:11:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 27 Aug 2001 20:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 74961 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2001 19:55:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2001 19:55:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 19:55:23 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 025D4F62 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id MAA15853; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApIe2HGUpfA4w5uVRoiXS6yHCpY8CFF1ncvh4InJILH5uP9zp84ZDFSfX Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:55:16 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: another fanzine editor introduction Message-ID: <3508-3B8AA5A4-1238@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Rob Gustaveson" 's message of Mon, 27 Aug 2001 03:18:15 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a real true story,i could hardly believe it. from allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From maryellen568@webtv.net Mon Aug 27 13:16:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 27 Aug 2001 20:16:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 40970 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2001 20:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2001 20:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 20:01:48 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id E7732C32 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id NAA16091; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:01:45 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhMDrckK9X3StddMWlkiQlRAK3j8AhUAjtgAWGXaX42X4Ho9awZwywP/xc8= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:01:45 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! Message-ID: <3510-3B8AA729-418@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "James Richard Christopher Main, Jr." 's message of Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:54:50 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i read the message below,and i already responded to it with an e-mail of my own. from allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 14:56:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 27 Aug 2001 21:56:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 35624 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2001 21:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2001 21:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 21:55:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.99] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2001 21:55:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:55:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! Message-ID: <9mefl1+hllu@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3510-3B8AA729-418@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 353 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.193.28 From: "James Richard Christopher Main, Jr." I hope you got the email I sent in in response to your question. Jim --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., maryellen568@w... wrote: > i read the message below,and i already responded to it with an e- mail of > my own. from allen > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Aug 28 07:10:11 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 28 Aug 2001 14:10:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 34902 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2001 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Aug 2001 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 14:08:11 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05492 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:08:10 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.66] (fre-56.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.66]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05406 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:08:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200108281408.JAA05406@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Fwd: [cbzines] Digest Number 143 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 01 09:08:12 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm Just a note - read below - on digest mode, all non-text portions have been removed, so some of us have not seen what you sent in Robert Beerbohm Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 143 Sent: 8/25/20 1:43 PM Received: 8/28/01 8:52 AM From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: another fanzine editor introduction From: maryellen568@webtv.net 2. Re: I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! From: maryellen568@webtv.net 3. Re: I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! From: "James Richard Christopher Main, Jr." ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:55:16 -0400 (EDT) From: maryellen568@webtv.net Subject: Re: Re: another fanzine editor introduction This is a real true story,i could hardly believe it. from allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: maryellen568@webtv.net Subject: Re: I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! i read the message below,and i already responded to it with an e-mail of my own. from allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:55:45 -0000 From: "James Richard Christopher Main, Jr." Subject: Re: I'm Actually LOOKING for material for a Fanzine! I hope you got the email I sent in in response to your question. Jim --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., maryellen568@w... wrote: > i read the message below,and i already responded to it with an e- mail of > my own. from allen > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Aug 28 10:47:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 28 Aug 2001 17:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 37905 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2001 17:46:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2001 17:46:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m10.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.165) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 17:46:29 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.72.f03f8e6 (4250) for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <72.f03f8e6.28bd32ba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:45:30 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 143 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 10:12:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, beerbohm@teknetwork.com writes: > Just a note - read below - on digest mode, all non-text portions have > been removed, so some of us have not seen what you sent in Robert Beerbohm hey, it wasn;t in the regular postings either steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Aug 28 10:56:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 28 Aug 2001 17:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 62787 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2001 17:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2001 17:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 17:54:34 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.4d.1080f6d4 (24898) for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4d.1080f6d4.28bd34d4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:54:28 EDT Subject: [cbzines] To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The special Edgar Rice Burroughs issue of RBCC #2 just arrived from the=20 printer today. Email me at Jimvanhise@aol.com for more info. I also have it= =20 on ebay if you want to see the cover, etc. RBCC #2 (new) Edgar Rice=20 Burroughs, Frazetta =A0 ebay item #1184013473=20=20=20 --I'll be mailing out the advance orders today and tomorrow. -- James Van H= ise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com Fri Aug 31 19:05:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 1 Sep 2001 02:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 99256 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2001 02:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Sep 2001 02:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2001 02:05:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.225] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2001 02:05:06 -0000 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 02:05:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Zine Fest Message-ID: <9mpfoh+amv2@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 720 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 134.53.151.139 From: theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com Hey guys, just wanted to take a second to remind you about the Ohio Zine Festival. Tables are still available! We could still use a few people to help out with workshops! I would really like to see some more comics represented. The Ohio Zine Festival Saturday September 8th 11am-5pm Miami University at the Marcum Conference Center Oxford Ohio $5 donation appreciated The Ohio Zine Festival is an event designed to celebrate the underground media, its readers, and its writers. Anything DIY is invited to attend. If you want more info about the Ohio Zine Festival, go to http://www.theoryofeverythingpress.com/ or email me at theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com Thanks! P.S. Sorry 'bout any cross posting. From ditko37@sympatico.ca Sun Sep 02 04:44:16 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 2 Sep 2001 11:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 60053 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2001 11:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Sep 2001 11:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.40) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Sep 2001 11:44:15 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.230.5.158]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010902114414.PCSP3327.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 07:44:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3B921959.582526B9@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 07:34:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RBCC #2 / Aurora #5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Jim Van Hise wrote: > The special Edgar Rice Burroughs issue of RBCC #2 just arrived from > the printer today. Email me at Jimvanhise@aol.com for more info. > I also have it on ebay if you want to see the cover, etc. > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1184013473 > I'll be mailing out the advance orders today and tomorrow. > -- James Van Hise Congrats on the new issue, Jim. Nice cover, too, although if you don't have a 35,000 word Ditko article in every issue, I'M NOT INTERESTED! I jest, of course. And it was a pleasure to get the brief opportunity to speak to you in San Diego after the Fanzine panel. Also, I just received a copy of AURORA #5, the Len Wein fanzine with the Ditko Dr. Strange cover. Sweeeeettttt. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Wed Sep 05 09:03:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 5 Sep 2001 16:03:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 51086 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2001 15:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2001 15:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2001 15:47:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Received: from [10.1.10.105] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2001 15:47:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:47:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9n5heh+hh5v@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <003301c10ccc$41bdbd20$b00234d1@hansen> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5469 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 134.148.4.19 From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Hi Peter and everyone else, Sorry I haven't replied for so long! In case you haven't already seen it, the official Stanley Pitt gallery is indeed a web page - and can be accessed from this address: http://www.homegrown.com.au. But the biggest piece of Stanley Pitt news is that he will be making a very rare appearance as a special guest at the Australia Comic Convention COMICFEST 2001 this weekend. There will also be a range of Stanley Pitt posters and portfolios on sale there. And in addition to this, Paul Wheelahan (creator of the Panther, recently re-launched) will also be in attendance. He is in fact a life-long friend of Stanley Pitt, and worked on both "Yarmak" and "Captain Power" with him. -Jeremy --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "P.Hansen" wrote: > Jeremy > > Phew!! What a week its been. Sorry I have not replied, but I have been super busy. > > Very interested to hear about the official Stanley Pitt Gallery being constructed, is this a web page?? I'm a bit surprised to hear that Stan had agreed to an interview, as I understood that his agent (Richard Rae) was/is a bit of a difficult guy to deal with when it comes to this sort of thing. > > I have a number of Pitt items including an unpublished interview, and some of those already published in Star Studded, Sense of Wonder, Comic Crusader, Visions, Stan's rendition of Flash Gordon in Heritage "a", and a few other bits and pieces. Don't have a copy of the article in Science Fiction though. > > I am sure that a number of John Ryan's fanzines would have had info on Stanley Pitt, but they are rarer than hens teeth, and the best chance of finding any would be in Australia I would have thought. > > Well got to go. Look forward to hearing from you. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jeremy.macpherson@s... > To: comicbookfanzines@y... > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:49 PM > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > > Hi Peter, > > Yes, it's a great shame that Stanley Pitt hasn't yet received the > recogition he deserves here in Australia. One possible reason for > this is that he was not allowed to sign the western covers he did for > such a long time at Cleveland Publishing. However, with the > official "Stanley Pitt Gallery" currently being constructed hopefully > this will soon change. > > That's very interesting to hear about your article. I'm actually > collecting information at the moment for an interview Stanley has > agreed to participate in. I've found the Sense of Wonder article and > also have a brilliant interview from an Australian fanzine called > SCIENCE FICTION. Do you have that one? Also, do you know of any > other sources of information on Stan Pitt? I've heard that the > National Library of Australia has a large recorded interview > conducted as part of the 'Australian Cartoonists and Illustrators > Oral History Project' but unfortunately this is not allowed to be > used outside the library. > > Do you have Anthony Fury for sale? I'd love to buy it, but the > current state of our currency would probably put it way out of my > price range. > > -- > Jeremy > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., hansen@s... wrote: > > Hey Jerry/Jeremy > > > > The great Stan Pitt is still alive and still working, though not a > > lot these days. He has spent the last 50 years working on covers > > for western comics and western books. I have been working on an > > article about Stan for a few months now because I think he should > > be remembered for his accomplishments in Oz. > > > > I have a spare copy of John Ryan's book if you are interested > > Jeremy as I recently acquired Denis Giffor'd copy at auction, which > > is also signed by John. If you still have any copies of Down Under > > Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John > > Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living > > in South Africa. > > > > I have some editions of the Silver Star reprints done in the > > 1950's, some Yarmaks, and Pitt's first comic called Anthony Fury > > if you want copies Jeremy let me know. Also a guy called Bryon > > Whitworth in France has some excellent reproductions of Silver Star > > that he sells. > > > > In addition to the Pitt article in Star Studded #13, John Ryan also > > did an article about Pitt in Sense of Wonder #12, where he > > reproduced quite a bit of Bester's Gully Foyle artwork, and went > > into great detail about how the American publisher's shafted Pitt > > in the 60's when he was trying to get the strip syndicated. Also a > > renegade Canadian did a great job of illegaly reproducing Pitt's > > Silver Star stuff in Captain Georges Comic World #80. Pitt also > > did a couple of pieces for Dc in teh early 1970's, and he also > > ghosted on Secret Agent Corrigan in the 1960's. > > > > Let me know if I can help. > > > > Peter Hansen > > Vancouver, Canada > > > > ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk Wed Sep 05 15:43:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 5 Sep 2001 22:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 43310 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2001 22:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2001 22:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2001 22:42:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.133] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2001 22:42:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:42:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Class Of '79 Message-ID: <9n69or+g9f7@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 282 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 195.92.194.19 From: "William Logan" The award winning, Class Of '79 is looking for people to contribute to the 3rd issue. If you are a fan of the 2000AD character, Judge Dredd then get in touch. La Placa Rifa, W. R. Logan. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theclassof79 http://www.subhuman.net/cybergoth/classof79/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Sep 05 16:02:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 5 Sep 2001 23:02:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 5689 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2001 23:02:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Sep 2001 23:02:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2001 23:02:08 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id r.11f.449405b (16484) for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11f.449405b.28c808ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:02:05 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has any collection of the art of Stanley Pitt been published? The only version of Silver Starr I've seen is the North American reprint on newsprint which has only okay reproduction. --James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Wed Sep 05 20:27:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 6 Sep 2001 03:27:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25408 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2001 03:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2001 03:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 03:27:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Received: from [10.1.10.102] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2001 03:27:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 03:27:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Message-ID: <9n6qee+cgp9@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <11f.449405b.28c808ed@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 668 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 134.148.4.19 From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au Hi Jim, There haven't been any Stanley Pitt collections in the past that I know of, but according to the COMICFEST 2001 website, a "brilliant array" of Stanley's work including "1st edition posters, portfolios and lots more" will be released. Here's the link if you're interested. http://www.comicfest.com/guests/pitt.html -Jeremy --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > Has any collection of the art of Stanley Pitt been published? The only > version of Silver Starr I've seen is the North American reprint on newsprint > which has only okay reproduction. --James Van Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hansen@smartt.com Wed Sep 05 21:55:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 6 Sep 2001 04:55:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 51190 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2001 04:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2001 04:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 04:55:14 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mx10015.smartt.com [209.52.2.205]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f86577G23218 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009401c13690$34d2b820$cd0234d1@hansen> To: References: <11f.449405b.28c808ed@aol.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:55:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim The complete Silver Starr has been reprinted with apparently very good reproduction by an English guy living in France called Bryon Whitworth. Also Australian reprints were done in the 1950's, but they are not too great. Peter Hansen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Has any collection of the art of Stanley Pitt been published? The only version of Silver Starr I've seen is the North American reprint on newsprint which has only okay reproduction. --James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Start here... Height: 345678 ft 01234567891011in Weight: lbs. kg. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hansen@smartt.com Wed Sep 05 22:01:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: hansen@smartt.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 6 Sep 2001 05:01:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 76025 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2001 05:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Sep 2001 05:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartt.com) (209.52.5.253) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 05:01:48 -0000 Received: from hansen (burn-mx10015.smartt.com [209.52.2.205]) by smartt.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f865DdG24595 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00aa01c13691$1e46d180$cd0234d1@hansen> To: References: <9n5heh+hh5v@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:02:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "P.Hansen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeremy You little Beauty! What a great site. I wish I could be in Oz to see Stan in person, and at a convention no less. He could of signed my Anthony Fury copy, which would have been a great thrill. At last he is getting the recognition he deserves. Don't know who these Home Grown people are, but if they can make a little money for Stan good on them. Boy would I love to get some copies of the portfolios, and posters. You lucky dog. Tell me all about it when you get back. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: jeremy.macpherson@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan Hi Peter and everyone else, Sorry I haven't replied for so long! In case you haven't already seen it, the official Stanley Pitt gallery is indeed a web page - and can be accessed from this address: http://www.homegrown.com.au. But the biggest piece of Stanley Pitt news is that he will be making a very rare appearance as a special guest at the Australia Comic Convention COMICFEST 2001 this weekend. There will also be a range of Stanley Pitt posters and portfolios on sale there. And in addition to this, Paul Wheelahan (creator of the Panther, recently re-launched) will also be in attendance. He is in fact a life-long friend of Stanley Pitt, and worked on both "Yarmak" and "Captain Power" with him. -Jeremy --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "P.Hansen" wrote: > Jeremy > > Phew!! What a week its been. Sorry I have not replied, but I have been super busy. > > Very interested to hear about the official Stanley Pitt Gallery being constructed, is this a web page?? I'm a bit surprised to hear that Stan had agreed to an interview, as I understood that his agent (Richard Rae) was/is a bit of a difficult guy to deal with when it comes to this sort of thing. > > I have a number of Pitt items including an unpublished interview, and some of those already published in Star Studded, Sense of Wonder, Comic Crusader, Visions, Stan's rendition of Flash Gordon in Heritage "a", and a few other bits and pieces. Don't have a copy of the article in Science Fiction though. > > I am sure that a number of John Ryan's fanzines would have had info on Stanley Pitt, but they are rarer than hens teeth, and the best chance of finding any would be in Australia I would have thought. > > Well got to go. Look forward to hearing from you. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jeremy.macpherson@s... > To: comicbookfanzines@y... > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:49 PM > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Stanley Pitt & John Ryan > > > Hi Peter, > > Yes, it's a great shame that Stanley Pitt hasn't yet received the > recogition he deserves here in Australia. One possible reason for > this is that he was not allowed to sign the western covers he did for > such a long time at Cleveland Publishing. However, with the > official "Stanley Pitt Gallery" currently being constructed hopefully > this will soon change. > > That's very interesting to hear about your article. I'm actually > collecting information at the moment for an interview Stanley has > agreed to participate in. I've found the Sense of Wonder article and > also have a brilliant interview from an Australian fanzine called > SCIENCE FICTION. Do you have that one? Also, do you know of any > other sources of information on Stan Pitt? I've heard that the > National Library of Australia has a large recorded interview > conducted as part of the 'Australian Cartoonists and Illustrators > Oral History Project' but unfortunately this is not allowed to be > used outside the library. > > Do you have Anthony Fury for sale? I'd love to buy it, but the > current state of our currency would probably put it way out of my > price range. > > -- > Jeremy > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., hansen@s... wrote: > > Hey Jerry/Jeremy > > > > The great Stan Pitt is still alive and still working, though not a > > lot these days. He has spent the last 50 years working on covers > > for western comics and western books. I have been working on an > > article about Stan for a few months now because I think he should > > be remembered for his accomplishments in Oz. > > > > I have a spare copy of John Ryan's book if you are interested > > Jeremy as I recently acquired Denis Giffor'd copy at auction, which > > is also signed by John. If you still have any copies of Down Under > > Jerry I would love to get some copies for reference. Also John > > Wrights Komix. I understand John is still alive and still living > > in South Africa. > > > > I have some editions of the Silver Star reprints done in the > > 1950's, some Yarmaks, and Pitt's first comic called Anthony Fury > > if you want copies Jeremy let me know. Also a guy called Bryon > > Whitworth in France has some excellent reproductions of Silver Star > > that he sells. > > > > In addition to the Pitt article in Star Studded #13, John Ryan also > > did an article about Pitt in Sense of Wonder #12, where he > > reproduced quite a bit of Bester's Gully Foyle artwork, and went > > into great detail about how the American publisher's shafted Pitt > > in the 60's when he was trying to get the strip syndicated. Also a > > renegade Canadian did a great job of illegaly reproducing Pitt's > > Silver Star stuff in Captain Georges Comic World #80. Pitt also > > did a couple of pieces for Dc in teh early 1970's, and he also > > ghosted on Secret Agent Corrigan in the 1960's. > > > > Let me know if I can help. > > > > Peter Hansen > > Vancouver, Canada > > > > ps. Have you managed to blow out all those candles yet Jerry??? > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 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Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From customego@yahoo.com Fri Sep 07 12:30:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 19:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 80500 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 19:29:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 19:29:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 19:29:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.104] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2001 19:29:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:29:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Issue of The Good Guys & Gals Online Message-ID: <9nb77b+nraq@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 342 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.237 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi, Issue #18 of The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age is now available at(http://goldenage.cjb.net). That's right, after only 3 weeks we have another issue ready for your viewing pleasure. This issues mini- spotlight is Quality. All comments welcomed. Take Care, Darrin The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age http://goldenage.cjb.net From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sun Sep 09 17:52:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24569 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 00:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2001 00:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 00:52:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2001 00:52:51 -0000 Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:52:47 -0000 Message-ID: <1000083167.5180.96674.af@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Notify: From: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines group. File : /Fanzine.doc Uploaded by : ogden@csd.com Description : Fanzine List help file You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Fanzine.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, ogden@csd.com From maryellen568@webtv.net Sun Sep 09 18:13:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 10 Sep 2001 01:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 90538 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 01:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2001 01:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 01:13:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: maryellen568@webtv.net Received: from [10.1.4.81] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2001 01:13:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:13:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ama-heroes Message-ID: <9nh432+lbrg@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 73 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.240.220.149 From: maryellen568@webtv.net the ama-heroes web site is real cool,i highly recommend it,for everybody From ogden@csd.com Sun Sep 09 19:20:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 10 Sep 2001 02:20:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 54432 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 02:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Sep 2001 02:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.82) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 02:20:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.2.27] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2001 02:20:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 02:20:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines Message-ID: <9nh817+6cfr@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1000083167.5180.96674.af@yahoogroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 428 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.254.213 From: "Steve Ogden" Hi all, I just uploaded an updated version of the Fanzine List to the FILES Section. Check it out. There are three files: Fanzine.doc, Fanzine_a-f.xls and Fanzine_g-z.xls.I've made a lot of additions and corrections, but it is still a work-in-progress, with many months of effort still on my plate. It just seemed like a good time to update it now because of all the additonal data I've added to it. Take care - Steve From customego@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 13:56:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 10 Sep 2001 20:56:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15805 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2001 20:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2001 20:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2001 20:34:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.116] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2001 20:34:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:34:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Fanzine - Ama-Heroes' Hangout Message-ID: <9nj83o+h2q1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 789 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.239 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" Hi All, It's finally finished! Though it hasn't turned out as well as I had hoped, it still is great to have the first issue under my belt. Ordering instructions can be found at - (http://members.home.com/ama- hero/join.htm). In this issue you will find: The Black Eagle by Gord Green: A very cool strip featuring the Black Eagle as he battles that fiend...the Talon!! And then there was...Dr. Silence! by Richard Boucher: The origin story of the mute Dr. Silence. Why is he mute? For that you must read this tale of intrigue, and suspence! This is a text story. The Zodiac: Reprinting the Zodiac's appearance from Issue #7 of Fighting Hero Comics; a great fanzine from the 60's. Spectacular Man by Steve Rogers: Another original super-hero with a golden-age touch! -Darrin From ogden@csd.com Mon Sep 10 18:53:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 11 Sep 2001 01:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 59237 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2001 01:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2001 01:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 01:53:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.10.120] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2001 01:53:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:53:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines Message-ID: <9njqqf+gl84@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9nh817+6cfr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 719 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.251.96 From: "Steve Ogden" --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Steve Ogden" wrote: > Hi all, > > I just uploaded an updated version of the Fanzine List to the FILES > Section. Check it out. There are three files: Fanzine.doc, > Fanzine_a-f.xls and Fanzine_g-z.xls.I've made a lot of additions and > corrections, but it is still a work-in-progress, with many months of > effort still on my plate. It just seemed like a good time to update > it now because of all the additonal data I've added to it. > > Take care > - Steve Hi again, In reviewing the databases to make sure they uploaded OK I realized I had made a slight error, so I have re-loaded them again. This time they are as I expected them to be. Enjoy. - Steve From ogden@csd.com Mon Sep 10 19:05:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ogden@csd.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 11 Sep 2001 02:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 7872 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2001 02:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2001 02:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 02:04:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ogden@csd.com Received: from [10.1.4.76] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2001 02:03:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:03:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New Fanzine - Ama-Heroes' Hangout Message-ID: <9njrcs+uq9c@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9nj83o+h2q1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 646 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 209.179.251.96 From: ogden@csd.com --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Darrin Wiltshire" wrote: > Hi All, > > It's finally finished! Though it hasn't turned out as well as I had > hoped, it still is great to have the first issue under my belt. > > -Darrin Hi Darrin, I just sent off my money for AMA-HEROES' HANGOUT #1! I'm really looking forward to it! In my letter I included a CD with a copy of yesterday's (incorrect) Fanzine List so you could put it on your AMA-HEROES ONLINE WEBSITE. Can you upload the files from this group and copy them onto your web site, or should I mail you another (corrected!) copy? Let me know! Take care - Steve Ogden From ditko37@sympatico.ca Tue Sep 11 01:07:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 11 Sep 2001 08:07:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 95693 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2001 08:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2001 08:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.53) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 08:07:25 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.230.6.54]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010911012157.EJZL790.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:21:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3B9D66B6.547BB0ED@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:19:50 -0400 Reply-To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comcicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, genecolan@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT : I Say Thee Yay! A New DITKO LOOKED UPdate! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell Yes, folks, we're back with another amazing DITKO LOOKED UPdate! What tender mercies have been brought forth for your viewing pleasure this time? 1) The absolute highlight of this update has to be the PRE-INKED PAGES section. There's nothing like analyzing the pencils of Ditko vs. the finished work, and we have two new entries! Try another page from the 1984 Noman story by Ditko for Blue Ribbon Comics #12, but especially THREE (!) pages from a 1980 Starman story from Adventure Comics #474! 2) Check out the NEWS section for news on a Bill Schelly fanzine project with plenty of Ditko content, as well as an even easier way to be notified of updates to the site! 3) THE ARTIST section shows off Fred Hembeck's Amazing Spider-Man recreations of famous Ditko covers and splashes. His work falls under the MISCELLANEOUS sub-section at #20. They are great fun, and very well-done! You can link up to what's new in the WHAT'S NEW section at... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7437/ditko/whatsnew.html And the URL to the main page of the site is in my signature below. As always, commentary and contributions are always welcome! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Witness the Official ROBIN SNYDER and STEVE DITKO web-site : http://www.snyder-ditko.com/ * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From acumen@dreamscape.com Fri Sep 14 06:11:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: acumen@dreamscape.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 13:11:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 55752 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 12:25:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 12:25:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO io.dreamscape.com) (206.64.128.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 12:25:35 -0000 Received: from acumen (syr-24-161-124-77.twcny.rr.com [24.161.124.77]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3+blt/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09681 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00e401c13d18$460dbf20$0200a8c0@mshome.net> To: References: <3B9D66B6.547BB0ED@sympatico.ca> Subject: disaster and expressing yourself Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:25:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 From: "Acumen X" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, My name is Kyne, and I run www.acumenstudios.com I am from NY; not the city but in the state. I have had friends and family located near the towers and luckily everyone I know is alright. But still I am sadden by what has happened. Here at acumenstudios we try each month to post writings and poetry from underground creators and amateur writers and artwork from artists. This month we'd like to dedicated our writings section to the disaster and allow people a place to express themselves about it. So if you feel that you would like to submit something please email me at acumen@acumenstudios.com and we will post EVERYTHING that we get. Thank You Acumen X kyne www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground Turning VISIONS into REALITY [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Sep 14 16:47:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 23:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 58838 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 22:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 22:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 22:32:51 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11486 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:32:51 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.48] (fre-38.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.48]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11401 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:32:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200109142232.RAA11401@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Fwd: RE: GCD Chat - Insanity Date: Fri, 14 Sep 01 17:32:50 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: RE: GCD Chat - Insanity Sent: 7/24/46 5:27 PM Received: 9/14/01 5:30 PM From: Robert Beerbohm, beerbohm@teknetwork.com Reply-To: comixschl-list@socolow.com To: GCD Chat List, cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no PlatinumAgeComics@yahoogroups.com comixschl-list@socolow.com SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Poster: Robert Beerbohm This a pretty good response to all terrorists: http://www.hawknation.com/NewWTC.jpg made me feel good looking at this bob beerbohm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- URL: http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~epk93002/comixschl/ To leave this list, send mail to comixschl-list-request@socolow.com or comixschl-digest-list-request@socolow.com with the message UNSUBSCRIBE From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Sep 15 20:13:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 03:13:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 55095 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 03:13:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 03:13:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 03:13:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 3641 invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2001 03:14:05 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 3549 invoked by uid 0); 16 Sep 2001 03:14:04 -0000 Received: from roswell0019.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.19) by zianet.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 03:14:04 -0000 Message-ID: <3BA41A56.5050409@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:19:50 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Sojourn References: <1000546140.126.46788.l10@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? Also, was the John Severin story, EAGLE, ever printed anywhere else? The first two installments are beauties. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Sep 15 20:29:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 03:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 51120 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 03:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 03:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 03:29:21 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.da.c30c3bc (24895) for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:29:14 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/01 8:14:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert > newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? Four issues.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fiawol@aol.com Sun Sep 16 04:29:47 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fiawol@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 11:29:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 76693 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 11:29:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 11:29:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 11:29:46 -0000 Received: from Fiawol@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.62.13f63bf1 (4410) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <62.13f63bf1.28d5e721@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:29:37 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 From: fiawol@aol.com In a message dated 9/15/01 11:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > > Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert > > newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? > > Four issues.--JVH > Wow, 4 issues? I've only got 2. Now I have to start hunting all over again. ;-) Dave From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Sep 16 05:12:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 12:12:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 51600 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 12:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 12:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 12:12:06 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.94.19f0ef62 (25712) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <94.19f0ef62.28d5f10f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:11:59 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: srowecanoe@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/2001 11:14:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: >Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? Also, was the John Severin story, EAGLE, ever printed anywhere else? The first two >installments are beauties. this subscriber only got two issues --- can't believe there are four... and while the Eagle was not printed anywhere else that I know of (not even in The Rook where some stuff for sogurn ran); it was based on the 40s-50s american eagle from Prize Western (which ac comics is currently reprinting) steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sun Sep 16 05:22:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 12:22:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 69723 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 12:22:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 12:22:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 12:22:27 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.7a.1ad5d49c (3869) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7a.1ad5d49c.28d5f37e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:22:22 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/01 8:13:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > this subscriber only got two issues --- can't believe there are four... > and while the Eagle was not printed anywhere else that I know of (not > even > in The Rook where some stuff for sogurn ran); it was based on the 40s-50s > american eagle from Prize Western (which ac comics is currently reprinting) > ----------------------- > I can confirm that, only two issues. > Doug Wildey laughed when I mentioned to him that "Race" Bannon and Eddie > Race could be related! > :o) > Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sun Sep 16 06:14:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 13:14:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 76113 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 13:14:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 13:14:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 13:14:02 -0000 Received: from storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.81]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 8975617EC; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id GAA29062; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQZu1hxuAnZWmnJbzYKziAc+V56dgIUNBqoMXrzGV2urgc9DLlYsiXYo60= Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:14:00 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: donmcgregor@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Leonard Pitts Editorials Message-ID: <24133-3BA4A598-236@storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 15 Sep 2001 09:29:00 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Here are the two rather eloquent Leonard Pitts editorials, that are getting some play, here on New York radio, and elsewhere. (I heard it via Richard Neer, and the New York sports station, WFAN. (The rock historians amongst you will also remember that Neer was one of the pioneering radio folks, over at WNEW-FM, in the early '70s.))=20 Amidst all of our prayers, I hope this finds all of you staying safe, being well, and finding time to sneak in a smile.=20 Best, Jim Burns=20 ________________________________=20 "We Will Go Foward"=20 By Leonard Pitts Jr.=20 THE MIAMI HERALD, September 12, 2001=20 =A0=A0It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this=20 suffering.=20 You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.=20 What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed.=20 Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together.=20 Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse.=20 We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though-- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God.=20 Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak.=20 You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals.=20 Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel.=20 Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall.=20 This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us=20 this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain.=20 When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future.=20 In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too.=20 Unimaginably determined.=20 You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish.=20 So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange:=20 You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn.=20 Copyright 2001 The Miami Herald=20 ______________________________=20 "Hatred is Unworthy of Us"=20 By=A0Leonard Pitts Jr.=20 Thursday, September 13, 2001, THE MIAMI HERALD=20 Episodes from the aftermath of tragedy:=20 In Colorado Springs, Colo., four men threaten to burn down a mosque.=20 In Irving, Texas, someone fires shots into the Islamic Center.=20 In Chicago, a passerby threatens violence against an Arab man.=20 The sad and awful truth is, you knew this was coming. Could have predicted it the moment four stolen planes plowed into a nation's heart.=20 This is, after all, a troubling strain of our national personality that rises reliably to the surface in moments like this.=20 During the First World War, Americans of German heritage were widely treated as traitors and spies. During the Second World War, Americans of Japanese heritage were rounded up by the government and interned. During the Iranian hostage crisis, Americans of Middle Eastern heritage were reviled amid loose talk of mass deportation. And Tuesday afternoon, a friend of mine -- though in that moment, I was embarrassed to call him that -- said we should search out everyone in this country from the Middle East and send them back home.=20 In the wake of sentiments like those and against the backdrop of our history, let me say just one thing to my sister and brother Americans.=20 Don't. Please, don't.=20 Do not give terrorists the victory a hundred Pentagons and a thousand World Trade Centers could not. Hatred on account of culture or religion is unworthy of us at any time. But in the wake of Tuesday's events, it's tantamount to giving aid and comfort to the enemy, a group of petty thugs who tried to bring us down to their level, make us just like them.=20 I'm reminded of something I heard a man say on the radio Wednesday morning: that it's important that we save Americans, but also important that we save America.=20 As we grapple with the unthinkable, it occurs to me that his observation, which came and went in the media maelstrom of experts and pundits, encapsulates much of what is ultimately at stake here. Meaning human lives, yes. But also, that which ennobles them.=20 As these words are written, brave and sweat-streaked women and men sift the rubble of iconic office buildings in Manhattan and greater Washington and a crash site in the Pennsylvania countryside. The work of saving Americans continues apace.=20 But the work of saving America is a trickier, knottier task whose results are less readily seen. Because it is the work of saving an ideal and an identity, preserving -- and uplifting -- the best of who we are. Meaning, an experiment in individual liberty, a research project in human tolerance, a people bound to one another not by blood but by fealty to a extraordinary ideal.=20 And if you don't understand that ideal, well .=A0.=A0. you could pore over the Constitution, you could read the thoughts of Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and Martin Luther King. Or, you could simply recall the five words at the end of the pledge we once said as children. ``Liberty. And justice. For all.=B4=B4=20 In this moment when emotions are high, it seems prudent -- vital -- that we stop and remind ourselves of what is meant by ``all.=B4=B4=20 Every one of us, no one left out. We are not a nation that is only white or only Christian. We're a people of rainbow hues and multiple faiths. If that heritage has taught us nothing else by now, it should have taught us this: It's ignorant to think you can judge a man's soul by looking at his face. Yes, I saw Arabs cheering our pain in the West Bank. I also saw them issuing condemnations in Washington.=20 Take it as a reminder: The enemy is not Arab people or the Muslim religion. The enemy is fanaticism, extremism, intolerance, hate. The madmen who commandeered those planes don't represent the followers of Islam any more than the madmen who blow up abortion clinics represent the followers of Christ.=20 Yes, we're angry. We're supposed to be angry.=20 We have a right to be angry. But at the same time, we must be wary of the places to which we allow that anger to bring us.=20 If we let it deliver us to the doorstep of fanaticism, extremism, intolerance, hate, we might as well give up now. Because everything that matters has already been lost. =A0=20 Copyright 2001 The Miami Herald=20 From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Sep 16 09:40:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 16:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27552 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 16:24:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 16:24:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 16:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5999 invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2001 16:25:18 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 5980 invoked by uid 0); 16 Sep 2001 16:25:17 -0000 Received: from roswell0072.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.72) by zianet.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 16:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3BA4D3E0.70900@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:31:28 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Re: Sojourn From: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/01 8:14:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: >> Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert >> newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? > Four issues.--JVH Thanks, James! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Sun Sep 16 11:54:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 18:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5171 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 17:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 17:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 17:18:31 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.28.1ab89da4 (3700) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <28.1ab89da4.28d638e2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:18:26 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 9/16/01 8:13:08 AM, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 9/15/2001 11:14:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: >Does anyone know how many issues the circa late '70s Joe Kubert newspaper-format magazine SOJOURN ran ? Also, was the John Severin story, EAGLE, ever printed anywhere else? The first two >installments are beauties. this subscriber only got two issues --- can't believe there are four... and while the Eagle was not printed anywhere else that I know of (not even in The Rook where some stuff for sogurn ran); it was based on the 40s-50s american eagle from Prize Western (which ac comics is currently reprinting) steven rowe >> I also only know of two. Joe Kubert had asked me earlier on (before he started the Green Berets strip) to help him launch what became Sojourn. We were in the process of discussion when he got the syndicated assignment, so the Sojourn project (unnamed at that point) was postponed indefinitely. I'm fairly certain Joe sent me all issues of Sojourn as a friendship gift, although I had nothing to do with it when it was finally realized. If there are two more issues, I'd be very much surprized. Perhaps, this is the confusion -- a second SOJOURN title: DREAMER COMICS published SOJOURN 1998 #1-4 #5-10 cancelled in 1999 Bestest, Jerry From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sun Sep 16 11:59:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 18:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 30366 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 17:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 17:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 17:19:08 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.15b.1154489 (8391) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15b.1154489.28d6390a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:19:06 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/01 12:44:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > Four issues.--JVH > ----------------- I doubt this strongly, despite Jim Van Hise's sterling knowledge and reputation. I have two that I bought brand new off the stands at my comic book store and most certainly would have the other two if they existed. :o) --steve cohen (says there are two) Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Sep 16 14:13:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 16 Sep 2001 21:13:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 60299 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 18:12:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 18:12:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m10.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.165) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 18:12:03 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.92.1a314955 (3312) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <92.1a314955.28d6456f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:11:59 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Sojourn To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it's two issues (I had a four issue sub). I should stick with trying to remember just what I worked on unless I have access to it at my fingertips.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sun Sep 16 21:27:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 17 Sep 2001 04:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 83139 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 21:19:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2001 21:19:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 21:19:22 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.7b.1b34a122 (4225) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7b.1b34a122.28d67147@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:19:03 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Sojourn (for Jim Van H.) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/01 5:14:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > Yes, it's two issues (I had a four issue sub). I should stick with trying to > remember just what I worked on unless I have access to it at my > fingertips.--JVH > ------------------ > You do what you do very well, Jim! > Question, my poorhealth keeps me housebound most of the time, and I seldom > gat to the comic bbok shop so I am buying off the rack when I go instead of > pre-ordering. > I believe I heard that the new RBCC's second issue was out, is that so? > Also, when will # 3 show up, assuming it's a quarterly, or less? > Thanks, > Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Sep 17 02:44:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 17 Sep 2001 09:44:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 54880 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 04:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2001 04:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 04:51:01 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.9e.1a63ea15 (4197) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9e.1a63ea15.28d6db32@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:50:58 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Sojourn (for Jim Van H.) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/01 9:27:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM writes: > > I believe I heard that the new RBCC's second issue was out, is that so? > > Also, when will # 3 show up, assuming it's a quarterly, or less? > > Yes, RBCC #2 came out two weeks ago. I hope to have #3 out early in 2002. --JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beepo@whatisdeepfried.com Mon Sep 17 03:35:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 17 Sep 2001 10:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 75949 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 06:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2001 06:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 06:49:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com Received: from [10.1.4.82] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2001 06:49:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:49:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Deep Fried goes to WAR! Message-ID: <9o46d0+os2n@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 720 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 64.30.150.30 From: beepo@whatisdeepfried.com Deep Fried, the comic that leaves a stain, has a little something to say about the events of last week. First, learn who's REALLY responsible for our nation's current woes! Chow down on the latest "Beepo and Roadkill" strip in it's new, larger "Extra Fatso" format. Yes, From now on the strip will be comic page sized for even more laughs! With government imposed food rationing sure to come soon, isn't it nice to know that Deep Fried is offering extra portions? http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/deepfriedweekly.html Also, anyone who wants to read my entirely glib-free assessment of the events of the last week, see my update at http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/home.html Laugh while you can! Jason From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Mon Sep 17 09:53:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 17 Sep 2001 16:53:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 47269 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 13:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2001 13:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 13:50:44 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.d0.1b06699b (3992) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:50:40 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Sojourn (for Jim Van H.) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/17/01 5:46:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > Yes, RBCC #2 came out two weeks ago. I hope to have #3 out early in 2002. > ------------------ Thanks, Jim!!! I've got the old RBCCs from about 100 forward, I hope to see a similar run on the new one! ;o) --steve cohen Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Sep 19 18:15:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 01:14:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9844 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 01:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 01:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.136) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 01:15:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.93] by f19.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2001 01:15:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:15:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Zines ! Message-ID: <9obful+ig9h@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 885 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 208.28.189.36 From: flash14221@yahoo.com MIDNITE MASQUERADER #2 and ALL TIMELY MYSTERY COMICS VOL. #1 are now ready for shipping. MIDNITE MASQUERADER #2 - 90+ pages. Includes 3 strips by Ronn Foss along with his essay "Brothers of The Brush" on the early days of Fandom and his friendship with "Grass" Green. Guy Davis SANDMAN portfolio of concept art. Roy Thomas profile. Gil Kane essay. LOTS of art and fold-outs! $8.00 postage paid. MIDNITE MASQUERADER PRESENTS #2 - ALL TIMELY MYSTERY COMICS V#1 - 90+ pages. Jess Nevins "The Timely Story" lavishly illustrated. Pin-ups and tributes by Pro and Am artists. $8.00 postage paid Checks or money orders to : Gordon Green 215 N. Linden Williamsville NY, 14221-6639 Also still available are a few copies of MM#1 at $6.00 PP and MMP#1 neo BATMANIA also at $6.00 Thanks guys! Gord From JerryBails@aol.com Wed Sep 19 20:41:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 03:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 37957 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 03:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 03:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 03:41:42 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.145.1d6f6f1 (3932) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <145.1d6f6f1.28dabf72@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:41:38 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Zines ! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 9/19/01 9:19:07 PM, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: << MIDNITE MASQUERADER #2 and ALL TIMELY MYSTERY COMICS VOL. #1 are now ready for shipping. MIDNITE MASQUERADER #2 - 90+ pages. Includes 3 strips by Ronn Foss along with his essay "Brothers of The Brush" on the early days of Fandom and his friendship with "Grass" Green. Guy Davis SANDMAN portfolio of concept art. Roy Thomas profile. Gil Kane essay. LOTS of art and fold-outs! $8.00 postage paid. MIDNITE MASQUERADER PRESENTS #2 - ALL TIMELY MYSTERY COMICS V#1 - 90+ pages. Jess Nevins "The Timely Story" lavishly illustrated. Pin-ups and tributes by Pro and Am artists. $8.00 postage paid Checks or money orders to : Gordon Green 215 N. Linden Williamsville NY, 14221-6639 Also still available are a few copies of MM#1 at $6.00 PP and MMP#1 neo BATMANIA also at $6.00 Thanks guys! Gord >> These zines are lots of fun for fans. Gobs of full-page B&W reproductions. They gave me a great sense of dejavu. They were a welcome relief to the tragedy of last week. Only one complaint: Gord needs a heavy-duty staple gun, because the zines are so thick. I'm restapling my copies with industrial strength staples. :-) Thanks for the fun and diversion, Gord. Bestest, Jerry From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Sep 19 22:24:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 20 Sep 2001 05:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 54891 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Sep 2001 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r01.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.97) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.41.1114feb6 (3313) for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41.1114feb6.28dad791@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:24:33 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Zines ! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/19/01 8:43:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JerryBails@aol.com writes: > Also still available are a few copies of MM#1 at $6.00 PP and > Could you give me mroe info on MMP#1 neo BATMANIA?--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 22:04:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 05:04:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 32982 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 05:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 05:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 05:04:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.68] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2001 05:04:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 05:04:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: AUCTION FOR AMERICA Message-ID: <9oehop+ehjr@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 574 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 208.28.189.158 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I just wanted to bring to everyones attention that right now on Ebay a number of original art dealers, most notably Albert Moy, is auctioning a selection of art the proceeds of the sale of which is being donated to the TWIN TOWERS FUND for the families of the firefighters and police. Kirby, Frazetta, Byrne and more, really major pieces are included. Have a look. Bid if you can. Make a contribution anyway. TWIN TOWERS FUND PO Box 26999 General Post Office New York, NY 10087 phone in US 1-877 870 4278 international 518-457-0837 Thanks, Gord From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Sep 20 22:16:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 05:16:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 61176 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 05:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 05:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 05:16:22 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.6f.1b08bf64 (24898) for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f.1b08bf64.28dc2723@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:16:19 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] AUCTION FOR AMERICA To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are the ebay seller names so that we can look them up?--JVH In a message dated 9/20/01 10:06:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, flash14221@yahoo.com writes: > I just wanted to bring to everyones attention that right now on Ebay a > number of original art dealers, most notably Albert Moy, is > auctioning a selection of art the proceeds of the sale of which is > being donated to the TWIN TOWERS FUND for the families of the > firefighters and police. Kirby, Frazetta, Byrne and more, really major > pieces are included. Have a look. Bid if you can. Make a contribution > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Thu Sep 20 23:45:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 06:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2538 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 06:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 06:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c001.snv.cp.net) (209.228.32.133) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 06:45:49 -0000 Received: (cpmta 859 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2001 23:45:49 -0700 Date: 20 Sep 2001 23:45:49 -0700 Message-ID: <20010921064549.858.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 21 Sep 2001 06:45:49 GMT Received: from [165.121.33.183] by mail.graphic-illusion.com with HTTP; 20 Sep 2001 23:45:49 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.3.5 X-Sent-From: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] AUCTION FOR AMERICA From: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com They have a link so you can see everyone with auction material for charity in one section or as you go to individual sites from some views there will be an American Flag showing. graphic_illusion@mindspring.com (my stable new (yet old) email is ninthnebula10@yahoo.com) this one will be phased soon. On Thu, 20 September 2001, Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > > What are the ebay seller names so that we can look them up?--JVH > > In a message dated 9/20/01 10:06:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > flash14221@yahoo.com writes: > > > I just wanted to bring to everyones attention that right now on Ebay a > > number of original art dealers, most notably Albert Moy, is > > auctioning a selection of art the proceeds of the sale of which is > > being donated to the TWIN TOWERS FUND for the families of the > > firefighters and police. Kirby, Frazetta, Byrne and more, really major > > pieces are included. Have a look. Bid if you can. Make a contribution > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Sep 21 17:59:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 00:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 57039 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 00:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 00:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 00:59:31 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.119.4ff181d (3936) for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <119.4ff181d.28dd3c54@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:59:00 EDT Subject: Steranko speaks out To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is on Comicon.com/Splash for September 21st. It encapsulates things th= at=20 have turned me off to many modern comics for a long time. Can you say EMERA= LD=20 DAWN? =A0 STERANKO WAGES WAR ON 'COMICS TERRORISM'! =A0SPONSORS The SPLASH is bro= ught=20 to you by:=20 >=20 > > >=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'!=20 September 21: In what could be the first taste of a contentious debate=20 brewing within the comics industry in the wake of the World Trade Center=20 attacks last week, legendary comics creator and publisher Jim Steranko=20 provided the following open letter to the SPLASH. It details his views on t= he=20 current direction of comics content:"You're in danger!We all are. We've=20 watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of life, our country, and our ver= y=20 existence has become increasingly corrupted. The 9/11 attack on America has= =20 pushed me and probably most of you to the razor's edge of endurance for the= =20 destructive forces around us--and the people behind them.Those who know me= =20 can confirm that I've never thought of myself as one of the good guys. But= =20 the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, culminating in the WTC traged= y,=20 has put that perception in a different perspective.Like many others, I'm=20 repulsed by the plague of violence and death ravaging our nation and feel=20 frustrated, even helpless, to combat it. I find it particularly disturbing= =20 that the artistic form with which I'm most closely identified has seemed to= =20 turn its back on the virtues upon which it was built.Today's comics are=20 possessed by brutality, destruction, depravity, cynicism, and obscenity. No= ?=20 Here's a press release I received a few weeks ago:ENNIS, CONNER, PALIMIOTTI= =20 TURN A TRICK! August 19: Ever wonder what it would be like to sleep with a= =20 superpowered prostitute? Garth Ennis has and he's enlisted Amanda Conner an= d=20 Jimmy Palmiotti to flesh out the story in PRO, a 64 page one-shot coming ne= xt=20 summer from Image. Following the announcement on the "Image All Stars" pane= l=20 at WizardWorld, Palmiotti told the SPLASH, "This will probably keep the Com= ic=20 Book Legal Defense Fund very busy for the next five years. It's the world's= =20 first superhero prostitute and pretty much every comic book character's run= =20 in with her. It's done Garth style so it won't be the actual characters, bu= t=20 it'll be like mainstream superhero comics with a prostitute thrown in the=20 mix. It's evil, it's gonna be worse than Hitler's testicles. It's Garth,=20 which guarantees it's madness. It's Amanda, so it's a woman drawing this ev= il=20 stuff, which makes it even more evil. And then it's me and I usually like=20 trouble anyway." Conner and Palmiotti signed at the CBLDF table on Saturday= =20 afternoon to start building the war chest."If this is supposed to be funny,= =20 I'm not laughing. Are some of the most-publicized talents in the field so=20 desperate they've turned to celebrating evil? Apparently so. They obviously= =20 think of themselves as cultural terrorists and want the world to know they'= ve=20 allied themselves with evil. They're welcome to it.Personally, I'm sick of= =20 evil, particularly the psychotic, nihilistic garbage that's pitched as=20 entertainment and has signaled the twilight of the comics era. All I have t= o=20 do to witness evil in its highest form is to look out any window--it's FREE= !=20 I don't have to pay $2.95 to know that I'm surrounded by hatred, fear,=20 destruction, and death. And I'll be damned if I'll endure having it thrown = in=20 my face by those who clothe their contempt for the rest of us with=20 tragically-cool posing and bubble-gum arrogance.Well, gang, if you fancy=20 yourselves as terrorists, there are those among us who'll treat you as=20 terrorists.I felt like my creative soul was crushed as I saw the Twin Tower= s=20 collapse. At that moment, most people realized the time for equivocation wa= s=20 over. Now, it's a MATTER OF SURVIVAL! Our families, our friends, our lives= =20 are at stake and it's time to take action, to take a stand AGAINST evil and= =20 all those who ally themselves with it.A few years ago, I asked Stan Lee abo= ut=20 the bleak direction comics had taken. It was easy to see that he wasn't=20 pleased with it, but he said, "It's what the readers want." I don't believe= =20 it. I do believe we want well-developed characters, compelling dialogue,=20 interesting plots, and our money's worth of solid entertainment--God forbid= ,=20 something that suggests an atom of virtuosity or a new age of=20 awareness.Instead, we are confronted with an avalanche of over-priced=20 booklets in which it's no longer possible to distinguish between the heroes= =20 and the villains because of panels choked with numbingly repetitive fangs a= nd=20 claws, blood and gore, fan-boy rage and T&A chaos. Instead of social=20 mythology, the lollipop esthetic has produced a monument of intellectual an= d=20 moral poverty. It would be laughable if it wasn't so damned pathetic. Am I= =20 being too subtle?I'm alive, but I'm not all right. I'm in the same position= =20 as you and all Americans are at the moment. We've let the world around us g= et=20 out of hand because we've been too complacent, too careless, too politicall= y=20 correct. The everyday tradition of simply civility, gratitude, courtesy, an= d=20 thoughtfulness has been replaced by scowling indignation, virulent language= ,=20 towering disrespect, and open hostility. Our nation is being crushed by evi= l.=20 I don't know what you're doing about it, but I can no longer turn my back o= n=20 what I call the Kervorkian Age of Comics. I'm ready to fight it using every= =20 resource I can muster.If there's enough of us, we can put the irresponsible= =20 bastards out of business and out of our lives with terminal efficiency--and= =20 if that doesn't work, I'll personally provide tickets to the caves of the=20 Taliban.Is there anyone out there who's had it with devil-worshipping heroe= s=20 who aren't content unless they're picking shrapnel out of their skulls? Sta= nd=20 up now and fight for the kind of ethics, values, and ideals you believe in.= =20 If you don't, you deserve everything you get--and it won't be pleasant!I'd= =20 like to know what side YOU're on." Jim Steranko=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Fri Sep 21 19:25:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 02:25:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 42952 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 02:25:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 02:25:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 02:25:08 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.62.1448c6d0 (3311) for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <62.1448c6d0.28dd507e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:25:02 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 9/21/01 9:01:22 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: << STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'! September 21: In what could be the first taste of a contentious debate brewing within the comics industry in the wake of the World Trade Center attacks last week, legendary comics creator and publisher Jim Steranko provided the following open letter to the SPLASH. It details his views on the current direction of comics content:"You're in danger!We all are. We've watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of life, our country, and our very existence has become increasingly corrupted. The 9/11 attack on America has pushed me and probably most of you to the razor's edge of endurance for the destructive forces around us--and the people behind them.Those who know me can confirm that I've never thought of myself as one of the good guys. But the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, culminating in the WTC tragedy, has put that perception in a different perspective.Like many others, I'm repulsed by the plague of violence and death ravaging our nation and feel frustrated, even helpless, to combat it. I find it particularly disturbing that the artistic form with which I'm most closely identified has seemed to turn its back on the virtues upon which it was built.Today's comics are possessed by brutality, destruction, depravity, cynicism, and obscenity. No? Here's a press release I received a few weeks ago:ENNIS, CONNER, PALIMIOTTI TURN A TRICK! August 19: Ever wonder what it would be like to sleep with a superpowered prostitute? Garth Ennis has and he's enlisted Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti to flesh out the story in PRO, a 64 page one-shot coming next summer from Image. Following the announcement on the "Image All Stars" panel at WizardWorld, Palmiotti told the SPLASH, "This will probably keep the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund very busy for the next five years. It's the world's first superhero prostitute and pretty much every comic book character's run in with her. It's done Garth style so it won't be the actual characters, but it'll be like mainstream superhero comics with a prostitute thrown in the mix. It's evil, it's gonna be worse than Hitler's testicles. It's Garth, which guarantees it's madness. It's Amanda, so it's a woman drawing this evil stuff, which makes it even more evil. And then it's me and I usually like trouble anyway." Conner and Palmiotti signed at the CBLDF table on Saturday afternoon to start building the war chest."If this is supposed to be funny, I'm not laughing. Are some of the most-publicized talents in the field so desperate they've turned to celebrating evil? Apparently so. They obviously think of themselves as cultural terrorists and want the world to know they've allied themselves with evil. They're welcome to it.Personally, I'm sick of evil, particularly the psychotic, nihilistic garbage that's pitched as entertainment and has signaled the twilight of the comics era. All I have to do to witness evil in its highest form is to look out any window--it's FREE! I don't have to pay $2.95 to know that I'm surrounded by hatred, fear, destruction, and death. And I'll be damned if I'll endure having it thrown in my face by those who clothe their contempt for the rest of us with tragically-cool posing and bubble-gum arrogance.Well, gang, if you fancy yourselves as terrorists, there are those among us who'll treat you as terrorists.I felt like my creative soul was crushed as I saw the Twin Towers collapse. At that moment, most people realized the time for equivocation was over. Now, it's a MATTER OF SURVIVAL! Our families, our friends, our lives are at stake and it's time to take action, to take a stand AGAINST evil and all those who ally themselves with it.A few years ago, I asked Stan Lee about the bleak direction comics had taken. It was easy to see that he wasn't pleased with it, but he said, "It's what the readers want." I don't believe it. I do believe we want well-developed characters, compelling dialogue, interesting plots, and our money's worth of solid entertainment--God forbid, something that suggests an atom of virtuosity or a new age of awareness.Instead, we are confronted with an avalanche of over-priced booklets in which it's no longer possible to distinguish between the heroes and the villains because of panels choked with numbingly repetitive fangs and claws, blood and gore, fan-boy rage and T&A chaos. Instead of social mythology, the lollipop esthetic has produced a monument of intellectual and moral poverty. It would be laughable if it wasn't so damned pathetic. Am I being too subtle?I'm alive, but I'm not all right. I'm in the same position as you and all Americans are at the moment. We've let the world around us get out of hand because we've been too complacent, too careless, too politically correct. The everyday tradition of simply civility, gratitude, courtesy, and thoughtfulness has been replaced by scowling indignation, virulent language, towering disrespect, and open hostility. Our nation is being crushed by evil. I don't know what you're doing about it, but I can no longer turn my back on what I call the Kervorkian Age of Comics. I'm ready to fight it using every resource I can muster.If there's enough of us, we can put the irresponsible bastards out of business and out of our lives with terminal efficiency--and if that doesn't work, I'll personally provide tickets to the caves of the Taliban.Is there anyone out there who's had it with devil-worshipping heroes who aren't content unless they're picking shrapnel out of their skulls? Stand up now and fight for the kind of ethics, values, and ideals you believe in. If you don't, you deserve everything you get--and it won't be pleasant!I'd like to know what side YOU're on." Jim Steranko ******* Jerry Bails responds: Explosions of anger come from unexpected places. Steranko's blast at what he calls the "KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS" was even more unexpected than the terrorist attacks on America's homeland. The latter, at least, had been predicted, even if we had no idea of the magnitude of the crime. Why is Steranko connecting these events? His perceived depravity of some comics has been with us for some time, but this phenomenon had little if anything to do with the Attack on America from forces outside the U.S. And it has nothing to do with the cause of assisted suicide. Steranko views many of today's comics as decadent self-destructive aspects of our culture? Like Buddhist statues? Like erotic images from past cultures? Like the World Trade Center? No thank you; I don't think I want to adopt that logic. Terrorism, Kervorkian's Program, and Comics that may bring down the wrath of some parts of our society are three different phenomena. Let's discuss each on its own merits and demerits. Our emotions are mixed up enough without confusing issues. If we want to improve the image of comics, provide better reading matter, or push some form of program to curtail certain kinds of comics, then let's be clear. Let's not let our analysis of cause and effect be warped by our emotions made raw by the WTC disater and the attack on the Pentagon. From bud@budplant.com Tue Sep 25 18:16:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: budplant@jps.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 26 Sep 2001 01:16:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 41562 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2001 01:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2001 01:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snfc21.pbi.net) (206.13.28.240) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2001 01:16:58 -0000 Received: from bud ([63.205.211.210]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GK800EV8WW9SX@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:20:50 -0700 Subject: Charity auction for Twin Towers Fund To: comics apa Reply-to: Bud Plant Message-id: <008601c14629$7a9e1b30$1b02a8c0@bud> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-eGroups-From: Bud Plant From: Bud Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're posting 10 items a week on our website, www.budplant.com, to raise money for the Firemen and Police who were killed and injured. Here are the details: Help us help others Like you, I was saddened and upset by the tragic events of September 11. At the same time, I have been encouraged by the outpouring of support from the many friends of Bud Plant Comic Art worldwide. Thanks for your many letters and e-mails. Our company stands firmly against violence and immediately started looking at how we could help. We decided to donate some of our products for an auction, with 100 percent of the proceeds going to help innocent victims. Here's how it will work: Every seven days we will post items on this page. It will clearly show the current bid and when the auction closes. The winner will pay for the item and shipping. We will send all the proceeds to the September 11th Fund. It's that simple. You help respond to the immediate and long-term needs of victims' families, and you get a quality product at the same time. Normally we discourage our auctions from exceeding our catalog prices. In this case, I encourage you to bid it higher! It all goes to a great cause. We're not doing this for profit; it's just the right thing to do. Please help us help others. -- Bud The first five items are Complete Carl Barks Set 1, Comics 2000 from Fantagraphics, Traildust, the Art of James Reynolds, Bettie Page Shot Glass Set (with Dave Stevens art), and 30-hour set of Tarzan Radio shows. Five more items in just a few days. Best, Bud Bud Plant Comic Art 13393 Grass Valley Ave. PO Box 1689 Grass Valley, CA 95945 530-273-2166, Extension 212 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Wed Sep 26 13:22:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 26 Sep 2001 20:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3666 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2001 20:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2001 20:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11108.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.131.155) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2001 20:22:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20010926202224.45513.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.6.123] by web11108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:22:24 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Aussie Rainbows To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <002a01c1367c$a555e900$35472ecb@skyes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" --- skye summers wrote: > I have put your writing here > http://www.nimbin-australia.com/ken > > linked from here > http://www.nimbin-australia.com/rainbowfolk > > > I published it just as it came. if you would like > back ground and photo > of you please email them to me > > Is this what you wanted? regards skye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: T. 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Sep 26 20:24:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 27 Sep 2001 03:24:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 45910 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2001 03:24:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2001 03:24:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.42) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 03:24:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.111] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2001 03:24:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:24:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: My Friend, Ronn Foss Message-ID: <9ou65m+7ebc@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 220 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 207.41.194.107 From: flash14221@yahoo.com I've just recieved the word that Ronn Foss has passed away. As more details are known I'll forward the information. Those old timers out there remember his many contributions to Fandom. He will be greatly missed. Gord From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Fri Sep 28 15:50:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 28 Sep 2001 22:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 47524 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 22:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2001 22:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 22:50:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.2.59] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2001 22:50:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:50:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out Message-ID: <9p2urd+qpli@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <62.1448c6d0.28dd507e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 9381 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.31.78 From: "Rob Gustaveson" http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/awaken.htm Visit this link then send emails to ninthnebula10@yahoo.com The second page is "friends letters" and is merely material I've been sent with many sides presented. How can I agree with both Steranko and Jerry Bails? (Because I have Gemini rising). Because both are correct. Trash exists in comics which I don't buy or read or put in my consciousness and because the Constitution and 99% of the Amendments especially the 1st are what makes us America. How can we move from a you or me world to a you and me world? Bring the people to trial still alive who did this. Get the maximum info from them. Then respond. This appears to be the current goal. I did not vote for Bush. I do not trust the media and corporations who put him there. I know we are being screwed by rich people who love power and money to excess. Yet all men are brothers. Hate has never worked. We need the Congress to balance the Presidency. Right now both sides are acting the same. For a while all three aspects of our Government were the same (Republican Supereme Court). Instead of a healthy debate the Congress has closed ranks on the American people. Write your representatives and tell them not to sell out a single freedom no matter what the cost. Keep the Steranko / Bails discussion going loudly. "Education is about teaching people to think, not what to think." graphic-illusion.com Respond when you know. (Reaction is always wrong). --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 9/21/01 9:01:22 PM, Jimvanhise@a... writes: > > << STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'! > > September 21: In what could be the first taste of a contentious debate > > brewing within the comics industry in the wake of the World Trade Center > > attacks last week, legendary comics creator and publisher Jim Steranko > > provided the following open letter to the SPLASH. It details his views on the > > current direction of comics content:"You're in danger!We all are. We've > > watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of life, our country, and our very > > existence has become increasingly corrupted. The 9/11 attack on America has > > pushed me and probably most of you to the razor's edge of endurance for the > > destructive forces around us--and the people behind them.Those who know me > > can confirm that I've never thought of myself as one of the good guys. But > > the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, culminating in the WTC tragedy, > > has put that perception in a different perspective.Like many others, I'm > > repulsed by the plague of violence and death ravaging our nation and feel > > frustrated, even helpless, to combat it. I find it particularly disturbing > > that the artistic form with which I'm most closely identified has seemed to > > turn its back on the virtues upon which it was built.Today's comics are > > possessed by brutality, destruction, depravity, cynicism, and obscenity. No? > > Here's a press release I received a few weeks ago:ENNIS, CONNER, PALIMIOTTI > > TURN A TRICK! August 19: Ever wonder what it would be like to sleep with a > > superpowered prostitute? Garth Ennis has and he's enlisted Amanda Conner and > > Jimmy Palmiotti to flesh out the story in PRO, a 64 page one-shot coming next > > summer from Image. Following the announcement on the "Image All Stars" panel > > at WizardWorld, Palmiotti told the SPLASH, "This will probably keep the Comic > > Book Legal Defense Fund very busy for the next five years. It's the world's > > first superhero prostitute and pretty much every comic book character's run > > in with her. It's done Garth style so it won't be the actual characters, but > > it'll be like mainstream superhero comics with a prostitute thrown in the > > mix. It's evil, it's gonna be worse than Hitler's testicles. It's Garth, > > which guarantees it's madness. It's Amanda, so it's a woman drawing this evil > > stuff, which makes it even more evil. And then it's me and I usually like > > trouble anyway." Conner and Palmiotti signed at the CBLDF table on Saturday > > afternoon to start building the war chest."If this is supposed to be funny, > > I'm not laughing. Are some of the most-publicized talents in the field so > > desperate they've turned to celebrating evil? Apparently so. They obviously > > think of themselves as cultural terrorists and want the world to know they've > > allied themselves with evil. They're welcome to it.Personally, I'm sick of > > evil, particularly the psychotic, nihilistic garbage that's pitched as > > entertainment and has signaled the twilight of the comics era. All I have to > > do to witness evil in its highest form is to look out any window-- it's FREE! > > I don't have to pay $2.95 to know that I'm surrounded by hatred, fear, > > destruction, and death. And I'll be damned if I'll endure having it thrown in > > my face by those who clothe their contempt for the rest of us with > > tragically-cool posing and bubble-gum arrogance.Well, gang, if you fancy > > yourselves as terrorists, there are those among us who'll treat you as > > terrorists.I felt like my creative soul was crushed as I saw the Twin Towers > > collapse. At that moment, most people realized the time for equivocation was > > over. Now, it's a MATTER OF SURVIVAL! Our families, our friends, our lives > > are at stake and it's time to take action, to take a stand AGAINST evil and > > all those who ally themselves with it.A few years ago, I asked Stan Lee about > > the bleak direction comics had taken. It was easy to see that he wasn't > > pleased with it, but he said, "It's what the readers want." I don't believe > > it. I do believe we want well-developed characters, compelling dialogue, > > interesting plots, and our money's worth of solid entertainment-- God forbid, > > something that suggests an atom of virtuosity or a new age of > > awareness.Instead, we are confronted with an avalanche of over- priced > > booklets in which it's no longer possible to distinguish between the heroes > > and the villains because of panels choked with numbingly repetitive fangs and > > claws, blood and gore, fan-boy rage and T&A chaos. Instead of social > > mythology, the lollipop esthetic has produced a monument of intellectual and > > moral poverty. It would be laughable if it wasn't so damned pathetic. Am I > > being too subtle?I'm alive, but I'm not all right. I'm in the same position > > as you and all Americans are at the moment. We've let the world around us get > > out of hand because we've been too complacent, too careless, too politically > > correct. The everyday tradition of simply civility, gratitude, courtesy, and > > thoughtfulness has been replaced by scowling indignation, virulent language, > > towering disrespect, and open hostility. Our nation is being crushed by evil. > > I don't know what you're doing about it, but I can no longer turn my back on > > what I call the Kervorkian Age of Comics. I'm ready to fight it using every > > resource I can muster.If there's enough of us, we can put the irresponsible > > bastards out of business and out of our lives with terminal efficiency--and > > if that doesn't work, I'll personally provide tickets to the caves of the > > Taliban.Is there anyone out there who's had it with devil- worshipping heroes > > who aren't content unless they're picking shrapnel out of their skulls? Stand > > up now and fight for the kind of ethics, values, and ideals you believe in. > > If you don't, you deserve everything you get--and it won't be pleasant!I'd > > like to know what side YOU're on." > Jim Steranko > > ******* > > Jerry Bails responds: > > Explosions of anger come from unexpected places. > > Steranko's blast at what he calls the "KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS" was even > more unexpected than the terrorist attacks on America's homeland. The > latter, at least, had been predicted, even if we had no idea of the magnitude > of the crime. > > Why is Steranko connecting these events? His perceived depravity of some > comics has been with us for some time, but this phenomenon had little if > anything to do with the Attack on America from forces outside the U.S. And > it has nothing to do with the cause of assisted suicide. > > Steranko views many of today's comics as decadent self-destructive aspects of > our culture? Like Buddhist statues? Like erotic images from past cultures? > Like the World Trade Center? No thank you; I don't think I want to adopt > that logic. > > Terrorism, Kervorkian's Program, and Comics that may bring down the wrath of > some parts of our society are three different phenomena. Let's discuss each > on its own merits and demerits. Our emotions are mixed up enough without > confusing issues. If we want to improve the image of comics, provide better > reading matter, or push some form of program to curtail certain kinds of > comics, then let's be clear. Let's not let our analysis of cause and effect > be warped by our emotions made raw by the WTC disater and the attack on the > Pentagon. From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 17:03:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 29 Sep 2001 00:02:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 65985 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2001 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 29 Sep 2001 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11601.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.53) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Sep 2001 00:03:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20010929000344.59355.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:03:44 PDT Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out/ and this is a rebuttal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9p2urd+qpli@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov isn't there kind of a HUGE difference between make believe like comics or movies and the actual real life situation of life? Its like that kid in the sixties, who believed he was batman and swung around on a rope and fall and broke his neck doing something a comic hero did, should they have removed the comic batman because of it? sure this isn't the fifties or the sixties, but let us take this the way it should be. You have terrorist bozos out there who are soooo stupid that they think that they will go to valhalla or whereever it is their gonna go to and now people, creator's of comic book like mr steranko of whom i have met, a great man in his right, should not believe that his creations are creating this trash, comics are a release medimum, a release of fantasy, hopes and desires. i do not believe that comics would have that kind of influence, especially for something as tragic as this. Personally, I have always enjoyed mr steranko's work and as an American citizen I would and will defend his right as an artist to depict anything he or anyother creator of comics, including myself, wanted to create. This is America and we are all Americans here and we deserve this land and country, it is our right to be who and what we are. This country has stood against far greater enemies and will do so again... --- Rob Gustaveson wrote: > http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/awaken.htm > > Visit this link then send emails to > ninthnebula10@yahoo.com > The second page is "friends letters" and is merely > material I've been > sent with many sides presented. How can I agree > with both Steranko > and Jerry Bails? (Because I have Gemini rising). > Because both are > correct. Trash exists in comics which I don't buy > or read or put in > my consciousness and because the Constitution and > 99% of the > Amendments especially the 1st are what makes us > America. How can we > move from a you or me world to a you and me world? > Bring the people > to trial still alive who did this. Get the maximum > info from them. > Then respond. This appears to be the current goal. > I did not vote > for Bush. I do not trust the media and corporations > who put him > there. I know we are being screwed by rich people > who love power and > money to excess. Yet all men are brothers. Hate > has never worked. > > We need the Congress to balance the Presidency. > Right now both sides > are acting the same. For a while all three aspects > of our Government > were the same (Republican Supereme Court). Instead > of a healthy > debate the Congress has closed ranks on the American > people. Write > your representatives and tell them not to sell out a > single freedom > no matter what the cost. Keep the Steranko / Bails > discussion going > loudly. > > "Education is about teaching people to think, not > what to think." > > graphic-illusion.com > > Respond when you know. (Reaction is always wrong). > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... > wrote: > > > > In a message dated 9/21/01 9:01:22 PM, > Jimvanhise@a... writes: > > > > << STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'! > > > > September 21: In what could be the first taste of > a contentious > debate > > > > brewing within the comics industry in the wake of > the World Trade > Center > > > > attacks last week, legendary comics creator and > publisher Jim > Steranko > > > > provided the following open letter to the SPLASH. > It details his > views on the > > > > current direction of comics content:"You're in > danger!We all are. > We've > > > > watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of life, > our country, and > our very > > > > existence has become increasingly corrupted. The > 9/11 attack on > America has > > > > pushed me and probably most of you to the razor's > edge of endurance > for the > > > > destructive forces around us--and the people > behind them.Those who > know me > > > > can confirm that I've never thought of myself as > one of the good > guys. But > > > > the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, > culminating in the > WTC tragedy, > > > > has put that perception in a different > perspective.Like many > others, I'm > > > > repulsed by the plague of violence and death > ravaging our nation > and feel > > > > frustrated, even helpless, to combat it. I find it > particularly > disturbing > > > > that the artistic form with which I'm most closely > identified has > seemed to > > > > turn its back on the virtues upon which it was > built.Today's comics > are > > > > possessed by brutality, destruction, depravity, > cynicism, and > obscenity. No? > > > > Here's a press release I received a few weeks > ago:ENNIS, CONNER, > PALIMIOTTI > > > > TURN A TRICK! August 19: Ever wonder what it would > be like to sleep > with a > > > > superpowered prostitute? Garth Ennis has and he's > enlisted Amanda > Conner and > > > > Jimmy Palmiotti to flesh out the story in PRO, a > 64 page one-shot > coming next > > > > summer from Image. Following the announcement on > the "Image All > Stars" panel > > > > at WizardWorld, Palmiotti told the SPLASH, "This > will probably keep > the Comic > > > > Book Legal Defense Fund very busy for the next > five years. It's the > world's > > > > first superhero prostitute and pretty much every > comic book > character's run > > > > in with her. It's done Garth style so it won't be > the actual > characters, but > > > > it'll be like mainstream superhero comics with a > prostitute thrown > in the > > > > mix. It's evil, it's gonna be worse than Hitler's > testicles. It's > Garth, > > > > which guarantees it's madness. It's Amanda, so > it's a woman drawing > this evil > > > > stuff, which makes it even more evil. And then > it's me and I > usually like > > > > trouble anyway." Conner and Palmiotti signed at > the CBLDF table on > Saturday > > > > afternoon to start building the war chest."If this > is supposed to > be funny, > > > > I'm not laughing. Are some of the most-publicized > talents in the > field so > > > > desperate they've turned to celebrating evil? > Apparently so. They > obviously > > > > think of themselves as cultural terrorists and > want the world to > know they've > > > > allied themselves with evil. They're welcome to > it.Personally, I'm > sick of > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Sat Sep 29 21:44:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 30 Sep 2001 04:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23162 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2001 04:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 30 Sep 2001 04:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n34.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.30) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 04:44:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2001 04:43:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:43:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out/ and this is a rebuttal Message-ID: <9p67tg+vcho@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010929000344.59355.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 7586 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.41 From: "Rob Gustaveson" Yes America wins and the terrorist loses if we preserve all our freedoms here at home. They win if we give up a single right. I'm of course willing to put up with inconvenience for 6 months to a year. Fighting fascism in all its guises at home is equally important for this to be America. (But we must be tolerant of emotionalism based on this enormous shocking horror that has occured). So breath deeply. And be wary but not paranoid. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., nick alenikov wrote: > isn't there kind of a HUGE difference between make > believe like comics or movies and the actual real life > situation of life? > Its like that kid in the sixties, who believed he was > batman and swung around on a rope and fall and broke > his neck doing something a comic hero did, should they > have removed the comic batman because of it? > sure this isn't the fifties or the sixties, but let us > take this the way it should be. You have terrorist > bozos out there who are soooo stupid that they think > that they will go to valhalla or whereever it is their > gonna go to and now people, creator's of comic book > like mr steranko of whom i have met, a great man in > his right, should not believe that his creations are > creating this trash, comics are a release medimum, a > release of fantasy, hopes and desires. i do not > believe that comics would have that kind of influence, > especially for something as tragic as this. > Personally, I have always enjoyed mr steranko's work > and as an American citizen I would and will defend his > right as an artist to depict anything he or anyother > creator of comics, including myself, wanted to create. > This is America and we are all Americans here and we > deserve this land and country, it is our right to be > who and what we are. This country has stood against > far greater enemies and will do so again... > > > > --- Rob Gustaveson > wrote: > > http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/awaken.htm > > > > Visit this link then send emails to > > ninthnebula10@y... > > The second page is "friends letters" and is merely > > material I've been > > sent with many sides presented. How can I agree > > with both Steranko > > and Jerry Bails? (Because I have Gemini rising). > > Because both are > > correct. Trash exists in comics which I don't buy > > or read or put in > > my consciousness and because the Constitution and > > 99% of the > > Amendments especially the 1st are what makes us > > America. How can we > > move from a you or me world to a you and me world? > > Bring the people > > to trial still alive who did this. Get the maximum > > info from them. > > Then respond. This appears to be the current goal. > > I did not vote > > for Bush. I do not trust the media and corporations > > who put him > > there. I know we are being screwed by rich people > > who love power and > > money to excess. Yet all men are brothers. Hate > > has never worked. > > > > We need the Congress to balance the Presidency. > > Right now both sides > > are acting the same. For a while all three aspects > > of our Government > > were the same (Republican Supereme Court). Instead > > of a healthy > > debate the Congress has closed ranks on the American > > people. Write > > your representatives and tell them not to sell out a > > single freedom > > no matter what the cost. Keep the Steranko / Bails > > discussion going > > loudly. > > > > "Education is about teaching people to think, not > > what to think." > > > > graphic-illusion.com > > > > Respond when you know. (Reaction is always wrong). > > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... > > wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 9/21/01 9:01:22 PM, > > Jimvanhise@a... writes: > > > > > > << STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'! > > > > > > September 21: In what could be the first taste of > > a contentious > > debate > > > > > > brewing within the comics industry in the wake of > > the World Trade > > Center > > > > > > attacks last week, legendary comics creator and > > publisher Jim > > Steranko > > > > > > provided the following open letter to the SPLASH. > > It details his > > views on the > > > > > > current direction of comics content:"You're in > > danger!We all are. > > We've > > > > > > watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of life, > > our country, and > > our very > > > > > > existence has become increasingly corrupted. The > > 9/11 attack on > > America has > > > > > > pushed me and probably most of you to the razor's > > edge of endurance > > for the > > > > > > destructive forces around us--and the people > > behind them.Those who > > know me > > > > > > can confirm that I've never thought of myself as > > one of the good > > guys. But > > > > > > the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, > > culminating in the > > WTC tragedy, > > > > > > has put that perception in a different > > perspective.Like many > > others, I'm > > > > > > repulsed by the plague of violence and death > > ravaging our nation > > and feel > > > > > > frustrated, even helpless, to combat it. I find it > > particularly > > disturbing > > > > > > that the artistic form with which I'm most closely > > identified has > > seemed to > > > > > > turn its back on the virtues upon which it was > > built.Today's comics > > are > > > > > > possessed by brutality, destruction, depravity, > > cynicism, and > > obscenity. No? > > > > > > Here's a press release I received a few weeks > > ago:ENNIS, CONNER, > > PALIMIOTTI > > > > > > TURN A TRICK! August 19: Ever wonder what it would > > be like to sleep > > with a > > > > > > superpowered prostitute? Garth Ennis has and he's > > enlisted Amanda > > Conner and > > > > > > Jimmy Palmiotti to flesh out the story in PRO, a > > 64 page one-shot > > coming next > > > > > > summer from Image. Following the announcement on > > the "Image All > > Stars" panel > > > > > > at WizardWorld, Palmiotti told the SPLASH, "This > > will probably keep > > the Comic > > > > > > Book Legal Defense Fund very busy for the next > > five years. It's the > > world's > > > > > > first superhero prostitute and pretty much every > > comic book > > character's run > > > > > > in with her. It's done Garth style so it won't be > > the actual > > characters, but > > > > > > it'll be like mainstream superhero comics with a > > prostitute thrown > > in the > > > > > > mix. It's evil, it's gonna be worse than Hitler's > > testicles. It's > > Garth, > > > > > > which guarantees it's madness. It's Amanda, so > > it's a woman drawing > > this evil > > > > > > stuff, which makes it even more evil. And then > > it's me and I > > usually like > > > > > > trouble anyway." Conner and Palmiotti signed at > > the CBLDF table on > > Saturday > > > > > > afternoon to start building the war chest."If this > > is supposed to > > be funny, > > > > > > I'm not laughing. Are some of the most-publicized > > talents in the > > field so > > > > > > desperate they've turned to celebrating evil? > > Apparently so. They > > obviously > > > > > > think of themselves as cultural terrorists and > > want the world to > > know they've > > > > > > allied themselves with evil. They're welcome to > > it.Personally, I'm > > sick of > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Sep 30 20:43:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 03:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 48436 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 03:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 03:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 03:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17069 invoked by alias); 1 Oct 2001 03:43:44 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 16977 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2001 03:43:42 -0000 Received: from roswell0064.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.64) by zianet.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 03:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3BB7E7EF.8040009@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:50:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: Timely Has Come Today! (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker To bastardize The Chamber Brothers, MIDNITE MASQUERADER's "All Timely Mystery Comics" edition has come today! Put out by Gordon "No Relation to Grass" Green, this humongous 80 page tome is an impres- sive FIRST HALF of a two-part fan exploration into "The Once and Future Marvel." (The second half will also be an 80 page extravaganza, btw). The first thing to hit you, of course, as with any mag, is the cover. Peter Shorette draws a mighty fine patriotic assemblage of Capt. America, the Sub-Mariner, and the Human Torch posed in front of a huge and rippling American flag. Just as the early Timely superhero mags evolved around the unfolding of war, so, too, does this cover evoke stirrings of patriotism in a tumultuous time. Shorette's piece is sharp and effective and sets the tone perfectly. The article which makes up the entirety of the text in this issue is a fine exploration of the Timely timeline by Jess Nevins called, simply enough, "The Timely Comics Story." Being woefully uneducated in most things comic, I read the article with fascination, learning much about the company that eventually gave me my favorite comic books of all-time. Jess succeeded in making me go, "Well, I'll be, I didn't know *that*!" several times. The article is accompanied by many cover and spot illustrations (occasionally referring to a particular supporting illo that isn't there, I must point out - a small enough defect not to worry about, though). As I've mentioned before about Gordon's publications, he's not afraid to use full-page illustrations, something I applaud whole- heartedly. It's nice to see the full-sized cover to Daring Comics #5 (with a great shot of The Falcon - a character I'm unfamiliar with - not to be confused with Cap's later crime-fighting buddy), as well as Sun Girl #1 and Miss America #1, amongst many others. There are also more than a few full-sized amateur artist pinups, all depicting Timely characters. Ken Allan provides a duet of lovely mock GA Capt. America-with-triangular-shield covers; Gordon Greene himself offers several Destroyer and Red Skull pieces; Bob Rivard and I have an Angel and two Destroyer pinups; Dave Hoover has the All Winner squad bursting out at ya. Plus, we have some full-page gems by such pros as Gene Colan, Kevin Maquire, Alex Ross, Frank Robbins and others. But the thing that I feel *really* sets Gordon's publications above many similar others, is the inclusion of 11 x 17 fold-out illos. This issue has ten of them, ranging from a great Steranko Cap/Red Skull pin-up to a Kirby Red Raven Comics #1 cover to a Captain America Sentinels of Liberty ad. I just love these things. About the only things that I can fault Gordon for with this issue is that I would prefer clearer artist identification for each drawing - I'm a stickler about these things and would like a clear credit on the page of the drawing itself, with the label "Artist Unknown" if this is the case. The other gripe has to do with the reproduction of some of the artwork. Whereas on a whole the repro is just fine, there are a few that suffer, one of my own Destroyer works being a case in point. I know that this is an area in which Gordon is working on improving, and even the weakest repro in the book is definitely viewable - I have little doubt that he will continue to make strides in this area. Overall, I feel I can recommend this zine to anyone who has a healthy love of Golden Age comics. I enjoyed it thoroughly. This issue can be ordered from Gordon for $8 postpaid, or, if you want to save a few bucks, you can order both this and the second half (80 more pages!) for $14 postpaid. Gordon can be reached at: flash14221@yahoo.com -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Oct 01 06:45:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 13:45:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 83419 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 13:45:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 13:45:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.59) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 13:45:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20011001134501.64520.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 06:45:01 PDT Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out/ and this is a rebuttal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9p67tg+vcho@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov thank you for your words of wisdom, but it really is disheartening when an illustrator like mr steranko allows this type of behavior to influence him and his work or even to give him the idea that his work may have led to this type of behavior, THAT is the disturbing part of the whole thing, as far as emotionlism is concerned, that is another matter that i will not involve here. Once again thank you for your reply and kind words Excelsior! --- Rob Gustaveson wrote: > Yes America wins and the terrorist loses if we > preserve all our > freedoms here at home. They win if we give up a > single right. I'm > of course willing to put up with inconvenience for 6 > months to a > year. Fighting fascism in all its guises at home is > equally > important for this to be America. (But we must be > tolerant of > emotionalism based on this enormous shocking horror > that has > occured). So breath deeply. And be wary but not > paranoid. > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., nick alenikov > > wrote: > > isn't there kind of a HUGE difference between make > > believe like comics or movies and the actual real > life > > situation of life? > > Its like that kid in the sixties, who believed he > was > > batman and swung around on a rope and fall and > broke > > his neck doing something a comic hero did, should > they > > have removed the comic batman because of it? > > sure this isn't the fifties or the sixties, but > let us > > take this the way it should be. You have terrorist > > bozos out there who are soooo stupid that they > think > > that they will go to valhalla or whereever it is > their > > gonna go to and now people, creator's of comic > book > > like mr steranko of whom i have met, a great man > in > > his right, should not believe that his creations > are > > creating this trash, comics are a release medimum, > a > > release of fantasy, hopes and desires. i do not > > believe that comics would have that kind of > influence, > > especially for something as tragic as this. > > Personally, I have always enjoyed mr steranko's > work > > and as an American citizen I would and will defend > his > > right as an artist to depict anything he or > anyother > > creator of comics, including myself, wanted to > create. > > This is America and we are all Americans here and > we > > deserve this land and country, it is our right to > be > > who and what we are. This country has stood > against > > far greater enemies and will do so again... > > > > > > > > --- Rob Gustaveson > > wrote: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/awaken.htm > > > > > > Visit this link then send emails to > > > ninthnebula10@y... > > > The second page is "friends letters" and is > merely > > > material I've been > > > sent with many sides presented. How can I agree > > > with both Steranko > > > and Jerry Bails? (Because I have Gemini > rising). > > > Because both are > > > correct. Trash exists in comics which I don't > buy > > > or read or put in > > > my consciousness and because the Constitution > and > > > 99% of the > > > Amendments especially the 1st are what makes us > > > America. How can we > > > move from a you or me world to a you and me > world? > > > Bring the people > > > to trial still alive who did this. Get the > maximum > > > info from them. > > > Then respond. This appears to be the current > goal. > > > I did not vote > > > for Bush. I do not trust the media and > corporations > > > who put him > > > there. I know we are being screwed by rich > people > > > who love power and > > > money to excess. Yet all men are brothers. > Hate > > > has never worked. > > > > > > We need the Congress to balance the Presidency. > > > Right now both sides > > > are acting the same. For a while all three > aspects > > > of our Government > > > were the same (Republican Supereme Court). > Instead > > > of a healthy > > > debate the Congress has closed ranks on the > American > > > people. Write > > > your representatives and tell them not to sell > out a > > > single freedom > > > no matter what the cost. Keep the Steranko / > Bails > > > discussion going > > > loudly. > > > > > > "Education is about teaching people to think, > not > > > what to think." > > > > > > graphic-illusion.com > > > > > > Respond when you know. (Reaction is always > wrong). > > > > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/21/01 9:01:22 PM, > > > Jimvanhise@a... writes: > > > > > > > > << STERANKO DECRIES 'KEVORKIAN AGE OF COMICS'! > > > > > > > > > September 21: In what could be the first taste > of > > > a contentious > > > debate > > > > > > > > brewing within the comics industry in the wake > of > > > the World Trade > > > Center > > > > > > > > attacks last week, legendary comics creator > and > > > publisher Jim > > > Steranko > > > > > > > > provided the following open letter to the > SPLASH. > > > It details his > > > views on the > > > > > > > > current direction of comics content:"You're in > > > danger!We all are. > > > We've > > > > > > > > watched as our beliefs, our work, our way of > life, > > > our country, and > > > our very > > > > > > > > existence has become increasingly corrupted. > The > > > 9/11 attack on > > > America has > > > > > > > > pushed me and probably most of you to the > razor's > > > edge of endurance > > > for the > > > > > > > > destructive forces around us--and the people > > > behind them.Those who > > > know me > > > > > > > > can confirm that I've never thought of myself > as > > > one of the good > > > guys. But > > > > > > > > the malevolence I've seen in the recent past, > > > culminating in the > > > WTC tragedy, > > > > > > > > has put that perception in a different > > > perspective.Like many > > > others, I'm > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Oct 01 08:57:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 15:57:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 6752 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 15:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 15:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 15:57:46 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.9a.1a971bb4 (3701) for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9a.1a971bb4.28e9ec76@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:57:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out/ and this is a rebuttal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/01 6:46:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: > thank you for your words of wisdom, but it really is > disheartening when an illustrator like mr steranko > allows this type of behavior to influence him and his > work or even to give him the idea that his work may > have led to this type of behavior, THAT is the > disturbing part of the whole thing, as far as > emotionlism is concerned, that is another matter that > i will not involve here. > Once again thank you for your reply and kind words > > Excelsior! > There's an interesting commentary in the Calendar section of today's LA Times. In the past whenever some act of horrible violence resulting in the deaths of many people had occurred in the US, pundets rushed to blame our culture of media violence. Those pundets have been remarkably silent in the wake of the September 11th attack which came from a culture (Afghanistan) which bans TV and movies and yet which produced the most heartless murderers in the world. But then those same pundets always ignored the fact that Canada's violent crime is lower than the US even though they see all the same TV, movies and video games that we do. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Oct 01 12:52:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 19:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 37910 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 19:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 19:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11608.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.60) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 19:52:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20011001195201.90770.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 12:52:01 PDT Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steranko speaks out/ and this is a rebuttal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9a.1a971bb4.28e9ec76@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov In the case of these terrorists, I believe that they are brainwashed or is it braintioleted at an early age. Why I just heard on the news this morning of the talliban that are leaving and surrendering to the nearest bordered county, including a commander of the talliban itself. Is there a micro self deluded core of manics that suck everyone else into them and will the US take that into consideration? --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/1/01 6:46:32 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: > > > > thank you for your words of wisdom, but it really > is > > disheartening when an illustrator like mr steranko > > allows this type of behavior to influence him and > his > > work or even to give him the idea that his work > may > > have led to this type of behavior, THAT is the > > disturbing part of the whole thing, as far as > > emotionlism is concerned, that is another matter > that > > i will not involve here. > > Once again thank you for your reply and kind words > > > > Excelsior! > > > > There's an interesting commentary in the Calendar > section of today's LA > Times. In the past whenever some act of horrible > violence resulting in the > deaths of many people had occurred in the US, > pundets rushed to blame our > culture of media violence. Those pundets have been > remarkably silent in the > wake of the September 11th attack which came from a > culture (Afghanistan) > which bans TV and movies and yet which produced the > most heartless murderers > in the world. But then those same pundets always > ignored the fact that > Canada's violent crime is lower than the US even > though they see all the same > TV, movies and video games that we do. -- James Van > Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Mon Oct 01 18:10:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94895 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 01:08:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 01:08:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 01:10:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by n14.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 01:10:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 02 Oct 2001 01:10:22 -0000 X-Sender: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 23:59:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 79406 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 23:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 23:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.92) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 23:59:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.133] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2001 23:59:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:13:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Comic and Zine Reviews! Message-ID: <9pabo0+5sa1@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 467 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.200.28 From: "W.E. Elliott" The October Almost Normal Reviews from Almost Normal Comics are now up! Drop by and check out what folks in the small press have been up to! And, new this month, I've included cover scans of all reviewed material!! Another new feature is the Almost Normal Guest Book! When you stop by check it out and leave a link to your site, or a message, or both! http://members.tripod.com/almostnormalcomics/ Almost Normal Comics PO Box 12822 Ft. Huachuca, AZ 85670 From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 02 00:35:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55562 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 07:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 07:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 07:35:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.100] by n23.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 07:35:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 02 Oct 2001 07:35:48 -0000 X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 2 Oct 2001 07:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18113 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 07:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 07:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n33.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.114) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 07:13:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.69] by n33.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 07:13:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 07:13:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject:OT (As In Dull Crap Not Related To Fanzines) : Jim Steranko Message-ID: <9pbpes+s1ar@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 750 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.33.93 From: "Rob Gustaveson" X-eGroups-Edited-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca ========================== *** Moderator Blake "Iron Fist" Bell here. You guys can go on about Steranko and terrorism all you want, but please don't do it on this list, and IF you have to, I insist you slap on "OT:" at the beginning of your header (as I did in this case, so the rest of us can continue to sleep through such boredom. It's the least you can, and will, do. Thank you. Now, onto Rob's message... *** ========================== Jim Steranko's work did not cause the WTC terrorist attack indirectly or in any manner. Jim Steranko did not lead the comics industry awry. Jim Steranko created work of rendered timely & timeless beauty. He helped me pass a book report. He made comics "entertainment" even more exciting when he came on the scene. I pray he stop any self doubt or recrimination whatsoever regarding the terrorist attack. We can blame that on selfishness, stupidity, fear, greed, dogma (ism's). Ignorance is not bliss. Should some media look at itself with greater scrutiny?! Yes. Should Government dictate what we should think? No! Should each of us watch every thought, word and action?! Yes. http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/awaken.htm From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 02 19:03:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71706 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2001 02:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 3 Oct 2001 02:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.74) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2001 02:03:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.55] by n24.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2001 02:03:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 03 Oct 2001 02:03:39 -0000 X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 2 Oct 2001 07:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 95665 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 07:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 07:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 07:55:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.240] by n2.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 07:55:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 07:55:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Barry Bauman (Re: [comicbookfanzines] Re: Compiling Message-ID: <9pbrue+263j@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <200102030005.SAA07455@www.teknetwork.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 5186 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.33.93 From: "Rob Gustaveson" X-eGroups-Edited-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca I never really responded fully to this (your) great informative = posting. ***three stars*** indicates my response: --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Robert Beerbohm wrote: > >My friend Rob Gluckson has spoken of you often. Do you remember a = > >Barry Bauman?! Bought mint ec's out the trunk*** of his car when I was = > >15 years old! He delivered. (I tried that later with my Van--I'd = > >drive down streets with a sign on it--a few times I stopped and sold = > >comics--kind of like an ice cream man). Anyway Gluckson's email is > >gluckson@p... (in case you did not have it). I may have met = > >you. Regards. Rob > = > Rob, > I remember Rob Gluckson, the 1972 LA SF World Con (***I was there), Dave Gibson (***Met him, bought some 1960's = memorabilia from him; was told he passed away***) ****(Thought that was Scott Shaw) as "The Turd" ***) , fire works off the top of the roof - one rocket singing some primal = scream = ***(eek history repeats itself ask me about the Kansas City SF Con in = 1975 with Gluckson)*** RG in the royal posterior, all kinds of things. -:) > = > Bruce Simon - remember him? = (***Yep I remember all the old SMASH comic book fiends--just actually = read some of those early zines for the very first time!!! Such an = egotist back then--just focused on mine*** you were LA comics club also, were you not? You went to the earlier = SD Comicons? = (*** A few I think*** Supercons Stroud & Alexander = (***I worked with these guys at their shop off and on from the late = 1970's to 1985***) put on in Hollywood in the 70s? (***Don't remember going to these but I may have***) > = > Sorry to report, Barry Bauman was killed in a head on collesion in = northern California (Mendicino County?) a few years back driving his = black 67 Corvette. = ***Sorry to hear about that.*** I road in that classic a few times. When I had my store in the = Haight Ashbury, Barry & I would hit "The Other Cafe" to listen to = guys like Robin Williams = ***(cool, I use to watch him (Robin Williams) at the Improv on Sunset; also saw him and Frank miller and others at a Harlan Ellison Roast at = the Press Club I was invited to a few years back***)*** hone their improv material. He came into the Haight quite often. = (***I visited twice, once after Werner Erhard created the HUNGER = PROJECT ***)(Roy Thomas and Peter Ledger also did est, now called the = Forum; all related***) We had been friends for a while towards the end of his life. > = > Barry put out fanzines with Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay and Rudi = Franke - ones coming to mind include Heroes Hang Out and Voice of = Comicdom ***As a kid I was very jazzed about this stuff***), among others. > = > Some years back while doing initial research for my history book I = am still working on, I spent a couple days xeroxing many of Barry's = extensive early fanzine collection dating some of them back to 1958 = such as George Bibby's legendary adzine The Fantasy Collector. #10 = from 1958 announced Claude Held was holding a 20th Anniverary sale, = having been dealing since 1939. = ***WOW*** > = > Hearing about Barry was a blow like hearing about G.B. He'll be = missed. ***Yep, he had shiney MINT SF ec's I paid $5. each for--still don't = know what happened to them;*** > = > Roger Hill = (***I wonder if I met him a few times at my former comic store NINTH = NEBULA*** informed me today that John Benson is getting another issue of Sq= ua Tront = ***Stupidly as a kid I asked Jerry West for a refund the zine took so = long to come out--I felt twice as bad when the refund came in change-- yep $5.00 worth) together to come out soon = ***COOL; I released Graphic Illusion #1 (2001 edition) again--all new = material = mostly by Me earlier this year*** - later this year ***I'll be looking foward to it***. Roger is working on EC Fan = Addict #2; #1 being a giveaway to the attendants of the SD Comicon EC = reunion dinner. > maybe we will be heading into the fanzine revival thru the comic stores &= shows. -:) > cheers > bob ***ditto***All the Best, Rob And may God bless America the whole world and all the Kingdom's of = Nature. Rob Gustaveson *** http://graphic-illusion.com VISIT MY EBAY STORE! graphic_illusion@mindspring.com From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Oct 05 09:13:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30645 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2001 16:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Oct 2001 16:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 16:13:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [10.1.10.98] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2001 16:12:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 05 Oct 2001 16:09:48 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 4 Oct 2001 01:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 92210 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2001 01:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 4 Oct 2001 01:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 01:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 13784 invoked by alias); 4 Oct 2001 01:26:34 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 13674 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2001 01:26:33 -0000 Received: from roswell0021.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.21) by zianet.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 01:26:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3BBBBC4A.40706@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:32:58 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: Timely Has Come Today Update! (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker I must amend my own review to MIDNITE MASQUERADER's "All Timely Mystery Comics" edition. The copy I had received was more or less a beta copy, and Gordon has sent me a copy that will be the same as the one anyone else ordering will receive, and let me say that the printing clarity is GREATLY IMPROVED! I can now say that the art in this issue is a joy to behold - I pretty much have no beef at all with the repro. Gene Colan's two pencil pieces are *slightly* muddy, but as anyone who's printed from pencil knows (ask Greg Theakston - he'll tell ya!) that's to be expected. I RECOMMEND THIS ISSUE WITH NO RESERV- ATIONS. Here's a link to a scan of the cover, and below it I will list again the odering info: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Midnite.jpg Single copies can be had, postpaid, for $8. However, if you order the second part of this two-part exploration of Timely, you can get them both for $14, postpaid. Gordon's address is: Gordon Greene 215 Linden Williamsville, NY 14221-6639 -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From krimsun@hotmail.com Sat Oct 06 04:50:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14589 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 11:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 6 Oct 2001 11:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 11:50:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: krimsun@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.34] by n17.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2001 11:50:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 06 Oct 2001 11:50:28 -0000 X-Sender: krimsun@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 6 Oct 2001 10:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 35788 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 10:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2001 10:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.220) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 10:17:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: krimsun@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.2.230] by n31.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2001 10:17:46 -0000 Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 10:17:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Newbie! Message-ID: <9pmlo7+ipn8@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1165 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 213.1.100.107 From: "Danny Black" =20 Hi guys,=20 new to the list and I bring gifts! Freebies! A new Comics Magazine called BORDERLINE that you can download for=20 free from http://borderline.mediahall.co.uk I'm looking for some feedback on it and would appreciate your=20 comments to me at krimsun@h... Thanks for taking the time :) ***Danny BORDERLINE gets firmly into its stride with its 3rd issue and=20 this is what it has to offer you: Goscinny and Kurtzman - The Connection Mauricio de Sousa's Monica Mike Deodato Jr's Drawing Board Peter Bagge interviewed Eric Stanton - a retrospective Jerry Ordway - Da Ordster speaks *NEW* Young Guns - spotlighting the future stars of the industry -=20 This issue: Shelton Bryant! A latecomers guide to the new-look X-books Plus a huge number of reviews, review features and Zine Seen! Regular columns from: Phil Hall Mike Kidson Martin Shipp Sarah Littlehales Carol Close Kevin Schomburg Andrew Cheverton Kevin Hill Rich Johnston Matt Sommer Chris Spicer Ian Salmon and Mitzy Fantastico! Eclectic news and views MIFFY and Raineyworld Pretty impressive for =A30.00 ($0.00) wouldn't you say? :) From 1st October at http://borderline.mediahall.co.uk =20 From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Oct 14 17:17:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 53633 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 00:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2001 00:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.43) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 00:17:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [10.1.10.105] by n4.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2001 00:17:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca via web; 15 Oct 2001 00:17:11 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 14 Oct 2001 23:15:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 1837 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2001 23:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 14 Oct 2001 23:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Oct 2001 23:15:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9689 invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2001 23:15:48 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 9662 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 2001 23:15:47 -0000 Received: from roswell0082.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.82) by zianet.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2001 23:15:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3BCA1E37.1050201@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:22:31 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Special Treat (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker Thanks to the extremely trusting and generous nature of Pat "Paddywhack give the dog a bone" Hilger (loaning me a book to scan that Guides over $300 in the F range) I'm pleased as punch to share with you 23 pages of absolutely primo prime 1951 Wally Wood space opera art! Enjoy, people - it doesn't get much better than this! http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Cover.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/ifCover.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/01.jpg (to get to the rest, simply replace "01" with 02, 03, etc. on up to 23) -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Oct 16 20:53:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 17 Oct 2001 03:53:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18806 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Oct 2001 03:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 03:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21775 invoked by alias); 17 Oct 2001 03:54:02 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 21632 invoked by uid 0); 17 Oct 2001 03:54:01 -0000 Received: from roswell0032.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.32) by zianet.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 03:54:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3BCD028B.9070709@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:01:15 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: Clarification on Wood Scans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker More than a few people wrote to me saying they couldn't access pages 22 and 23 of the Wood scans. I guess I wasn't clear enough in my description - the 23 pages included the Cover and Inside Front Cover (ifCover), so if you accessed these, you got all 23 pages of Wood art. Sorry for the confusion! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From customego@yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 21:45:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Oct 2001 04:45:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 70909 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2001 04:45:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 18 Oct 2001 04:45:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.56) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 04:45:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: customego@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.240] by n6.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2001 04:45:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 04:45:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT:The Good Guys & Gals #19 - Now Online Message-ID: <9qlmp0+ipho@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 226 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.112.158.238 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi everyone, Our newest issue is now up! . Any comments please e-mail us at . Enjoy, Darrin Wiltshire The Good Guys & Gals of the Golden Age http://goldenage.cjb.net From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Sat Oct 27 08:11:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 27 Oct 2001 15:11:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 82758 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2001 15:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2001 15:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 15:11:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Received: from [10.1.10.133] by n11.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2001 15:11:39 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:11:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vox Populi Message-ID: <9reira+eo3s@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3310 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.192.164 From: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Yahoo-Profile: rickolney Greetings everyone, To insure the past, we must preserve the future. News will reach the comic book reading and creating world today of ... Vox Populi. Organized Readers of Comics Associated is always trying to point its membership and the likewise individual towards discovering the creational side of their being. Like wise, we celebrate that effort on a monthly basis within the pages of our amateur press association, Orcomx. Vox Populi isn't meant to be just another issue of that endeavor. Which, I might add, is pretty darn spiffy in its own right! Giving people on all levels of participation a chance to be creative is what it is all about! Vox Populi is what that compiled effort will be called. A copy of it will only be available to those people that submit to it. Oh, by the way, it is Latin and means, "Voice of the People." We've set a page count deadline for November 30th, 2001. Anyone wishing to be involved in this should email the number of pages they'll be producing to: library_bastard@yahoo.com before that date. A *page* consists of one 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. So if you elect to partake in this by submitting one page ... you'll be creating a two sided effort. Upon getting your email, and passing the deadline date; we'll reply with a mailing cost to you, which you'll need to send in with your contribution to Vox Populi. The deadline for your contribution to reach us is Friday, January 25th, 2002. This endeavor will include all types of submissions and it can feature mature subject matter in a art & literary sense. But, submissions should not be pornographic, or overly *adult* in nature. Any questions can be left here or hopefully, in the forum that should develop in the Indy/Small Press area of our boards. Again, with all the independent coverage we've tried to instill and promote here ... we're hoping that we get a nice participatory effort from everyone. ORCA is very eclectic in its make-up of reading members. A few of you have announced already that you'd support an endeavor like this, so let's all have fun with it. Dennis Kininger will be acting as Central Mailer/Editor. He is a seasoned professional at this kind of thing. Dennis just recently compiled and mailed out ORComx #36! Congrats Dennis! We encourage inclusion of a bio page, but we'll accept screen name submissions, should a person submitting wish to remain anonymous. Submissions need not contain art. Submissions need not contain words. One or the other will suffice, with hopes on this end for both. Copyrighted material needs to be identified as such. Please do not submit images of already known created characters without duly noting the legal particulars. Should we get stuff like that, we'll contact you. Completed submissions should be sent to: Dennis Kininger 1307 Utica Street, PO Box 206 Oriskany, New York 13424. The APA has a proud, yet basically unknown to the general public, vein of its own within our industry; No matter where you're viewing it from. Best Wishes, Rick Olney Director Organized Readers of Comics Associated -------------------- Rick "We are people of basic good, driven by our interest and admiration for a hobby and under appreciated art form. We welcome anyone that meets those descriptives." From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Oct 27 11:04:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 27 Oct 2001 18:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2109 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2001 18:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2001 18:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 18:04:56 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.ce.1c78f20d (4197) for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:04:32 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to get a sample copy of this apa to see what you're doing? Your description of it is as a comics apa is rather broad.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From acumen@dreamscape.com Sat Oct 27 19:50:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: acumen@dreamscape.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 28 Oct 2001 02:50:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 46565 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 02:50:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 28 Oct 2001 02:50:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO io.dreamscape.com) (206.64.128.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 02:50:49 -0000 Received: from kyne (syr-24-161-112-43.twcny.rr.com [24.161.112.43]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3+blt/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27787 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003001c15f5a$dc653480$0200a8c0@mshome.net> To: References: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:47:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: "acumen" X-Yahoo-Profile: acumenxk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, I too, would like to see some samples. Do you have a website? If not, depending on what I can see I would be interested in doing one for you. Currently I own and run www.acumenstudios.com and it seems that we may be doing similar things. Please Let Me Know Acumen X Kyne www.acumenstudios.com: the creators underground Turning VISIONS into REALITY acumen@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Is it possible to get a sample copy of this apa to see what you're doing? Your description of it is as a comics apa is rather broad.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Sun Oct 28 11:57:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 28 Oct 2001 19:57:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12285 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 19:57:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2001 19:57:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 19:57:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Received: from [10.1.10.105] by n30.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2001 19:57:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:57:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Message-ID: <9rho02+3fp2@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1351 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.51 From: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Yahoo-Profile: rickolney --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > Is it possible to get a sample copy of this apa to see what you're doing? > Your description of it is as a comics apa is rather broad.--James Van Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Actually, no. Reason being, as with any apa ... we're producing only enough copies for people that participate in it. I agree that my discription of what it is meant to entail is rather broad in scope. Well, actually, my group has been administering to the needs of our eclectic membership for ten years now. We're hoping to create a nice cross view of new talent, and some written *gems* for anyone willing to partake. Jim, Have you ever seen a copy of the ORCOmx apa? You can get a comp copy of that by contacting Dennis Kininger. His contact info is in my original post. Contact him, if you like. He'll send you a copy of #36 possibly. Our "Vox Populi" is the equivilent of Comicon.com's soon to be "BeltSander" or the "Crock" from TCJ.com. I posted news of it here because I thought there might still be creative energy left in a few of you. ;) Besides, I've lurked here for a long time, and while I read and have the same tastes as a few people here in zines and whatnot... I don't know many of you. I thought this might break the ice. Best, --Rick From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Sun Oct 28 12:04:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 28 Oct 2001 20:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 67477 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 20:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 28 Oct 2001 20:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 20:04:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Received: from [10.1.2.11] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2001 20:04:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:03:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Message-ID: <9rhobe+783g@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <003001c15f5a$dc653480$0200a8c0@mshome.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1064 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.51 From: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Yahoo-Profile: rickolney --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "acumen" wrote: > I agree, I too, would like to see some samples. > Do you have a website? If not, depending on what I can see I would be interested in doing one for you. Currently I own and run www.acumenstudios.com and it seems that we may be doing similar things. > Please Let Me Know > Acumen X > Kyne > www.acumenstudios.com: the creators underground > Turning VISIONS into REALITY > acumen@t... You can learn of us at www.orcafresh.net If you've read my reply to Jim, you'll understand our position regarding "Vox Populi" with my additional comments that we hope to do this online apa effort twice a year. ORComx apa has 36 issues under its belt. It is an eclectic compilation of various matters regarding comics. Some top notch art and insight. A comp copy can be had by contacting Mr. Dennis Kininger via the info in my originl post. I invite you, Acumen, to visit our website and join our message board. Our tastes are many. I'll check out your site as well. Best, --Rick From flash14221@yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 13:08:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Oct 2001 21:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 91685 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 21:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 29 Oct 2001 21:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 21:08:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.105] by n16.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2001 21:08:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:08:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Message-ID: <9rkgg1+40f8@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9rhobe+783g@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1693 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.246.19.151 From: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Profile: flash14221 -Thought I'd add my two cents here, as I have about a dozen of the Apa . I picked up a bunch at last years Buffalo Con and was quite impressed at the eclectic mix it offered. The emphisis on what I saw was on more recent fare, not so much Golden Age etc. but there were a few real gems in the mix! All in all, I'd recommend it, and knowing the wealth of talent and resources available on the list I think some valuable contributions could be the result! Gord ______________________________________________________________ -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Founder@O... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "acumen" wrote: > > I agree, I too, would like to see some samples. > > Do you have a website? If not, depending on what I can see I > would be interested in doing one for you. Currently I own and run > www.acumenstudios.com and it seems that we may be doing similar > things. > > Please Let Me Know > > Acumen X > > Kyne > > www.acumenstudios.com: the creators underground > > Turning VISIONS into REALITY > > acumen@t... > > You can learn of us at www.orcafresh.net > > If you've read my reply to Jim, you'll understand our position > regarding "Vox Populi" with my additional comments that we hope to do > this online apa effort twice a year. > > ORComx apa has 36 issues under its belt. It is an eclectic > compilation of various matters regarding comics. Some top notch art > and insight. A comp copy can be had by contacting Mr. Dennis Kininger > via the info in my originl post. I invite you, Acumen, to visit our > website and join our message board. Our tastes are many. I'll check > out your site as well. > > Best, > --Rick From acumen@dreamscape.com Mon Oct 29 15:10:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: acumen@dreamscape.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Oct 2001 23:10:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 86674 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 23:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2001 23:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO io.dreamscape.com) (206.64.128.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 23:10:26 -0000 Received: from kyne (syr-24-161-112-43.twcny.rr.com [24.161.112.43]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3+blt/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA24883 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:05:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003401c160ce$5de67b80$0200a8c0@mshome.net> To: References: <9rkgg1+40f8@eGroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:06:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: "acumen" X-Yahoo-Profile: acumenxk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what does "A.P.A" stand for? thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: flash14221@yahoo.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi -Thought I'd add my two cents here, as I have about a dozen of the Apa . I picked up a bunch at last years Buffalo Con and was quite impressed at the eclectic mix it offered. The emphisis on what I saw was on more recent fare, not so much Golden Age etc. but there were a few real gems in the mix! All in all, I'd recommend it, and knowing the wealth of talent and resources available on the list I think some valuable contributions could be the result! Gord ______________________________________________________________ -- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Founder@O... wrote: > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "acumen" wrote: > > I agree, I too, would like to see some samples. > > Do you have a website? If not, depending on what I can see I > would be interested in doing one for you. Currently I own and run > www.acumenstudios.com and it seems that we may be doing similar > things. > > Please Let Me Know > > Acumen X > > Kyne > > www.acumenstudios.com: the creators underground > > Turning VISIONS into REALITY > > acumen@t... > > You can learn of us at www.orcafresh.net > > If you've read my reply to Jim, you'll understand our position > regarding "Vox Populi" with my additional comments that we hope to do > this online apa effort twice a year. > > ORComx apa has 36 issues under its belt. It is an eclectic > compilation of various matters regarding comics. Some top notch art > and insight. A comp copy can be had by contacting Mr. Dennis Kininger > via the info in my originl post. I invite you, Acumen, to visit our > website and join our message board. Our tastes are many. I'll check > out your site as well. > > Best, > --Rick Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Oct 29 15:16:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Oct 2001 23:16:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 7474 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 23:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2001 23:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 23:16:53 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.c4.1ce0dc70 (18404) for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:16:49 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/2001 6:10:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > amateur press association Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Mon Oct 29 18:05:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 02:05:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24823 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 02:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 02:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 02:05:14 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.d7.e2fb9af (4316) for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:05:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:05:03 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/29/01 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > thanks > ------------------ Amateur Press Alliance :o) --steve cohen Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 00:41:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 08:41:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 42198 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 08:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 08:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13405.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.63) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 08:13:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20011030081324.67332.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.34.100] by web13405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:13:24 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:13:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote: In a message dated 10/29/01 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > thanks > ------------------ Amateur Press Alliance :o) --steve cohen --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Tue Oct 30 00:46:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 08:46:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 58749 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 08:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 08:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 08:46:02 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.8c.eb608ac (17232) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 03:45:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c.eb608ac.290fc2c6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 03:45:58 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 10/30/2001 03:42:27 AM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote: In a message dated 10/29/01 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > thanks > ------------------ Amateur Press Alliance >> Both or either. I have heard both. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr From jonesart@ulster.net Tue Oct 30 00:55:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jonesart@ulster.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 08:55:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22297 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 08:55:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 08:55:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx3.thebiz.net) (216.238.0.22) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 08:55:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 65641 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 03:55:15 -0500 Received: from unknown (172.16.0.72) by 172.16.0.22 with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 03:55:15 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO Hjonesart) (216.238.255.67) by mail.ulster.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 03:55:14 -0500 Message-ID: <005601c16120$8b3c09e0$43ffeed8@Hjonesart> To: References: <8c.eb608ac.290fc2c6@aol.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 03:54:53 -0500 Organization: jje MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Jeffrey Jones" X-Yahoo-Profile: idyl.geo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. Yes. Jeffrey http://wwwjeffreyjones.com ----- Original Message ----- From: CArchivist@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi In a message dated 10/30/2001 03:42:27 AM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote: In a message dated 10/29/01 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > thanks > ------------------ Amateur Press Alliance >> Both or either. I have heard both. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Oct 30 07:55:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 15:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 30956 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 15:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 15:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 15:55:45 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.91.1293dba1 (4199) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:55:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <91.1293dba1.29102774@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:55:32 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm surprised the apa has no extra copies of any mailings. I belong to three apas and even the smallest one has 5 extra copies done (25 members but we send in 30 copies of our contribution) so that prospective members can see a sample mailing. On the other extreme is the Edgar Rice Burroughs apa which has 36 members but we have to send in 55 copies of our contribution because there are honorary members who get the apa, plus some copies of each mailing are sold at $15.00 each to subsidize mailing costs.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Oct 30 09:54:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 17:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 99434 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 17:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 17:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 17:54:32 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.ea.1d04a5fc (4209) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:54:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:54:22 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 10/30/01 3:47:21 AM, CArchivist@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 10/30/2001 03:42:27 AM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. >> Here I thought it meant 'aspiring pros anonymous'. Bestest, Jerry From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 11:25:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 19:25:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 96699 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 19:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 19:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13401.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.59) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 19:25:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20011030192558.6532.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.33.253] by web13401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:25:58 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:25:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ha Ha Ha Yep at LASFS in North Hollywood, CA I contributed to many years worth of apa's hoping to be discovered as a writer and artist (secretly knowing that was a stupid thought). But still it was a reason to write and draw and practice. And to participate and show off my stuff to 50 or so people weekly. (Aprox). (ALL THIS back when I had my comic store next door to LASFS for 10 consecutive years--and threw mini comic cons) (LASFS is one of, if not the oldest SF clubs in America or the world). I contributed zines to LASFS and other SF APA's back as far as 1963 or 4 I think. I was never well received by my contributions to Capa Alpha but it was a way to try to jump into the hobby I once loved more deeply, I thought. Think I ran most of my zines through there. http://graphic-illusion.com JerryBails@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/30/01 3:47:21 AM, CArchivist@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 10/30/2001 03:42:27 AM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. >> Here I thought it meant 'aspiring pros anonymous'. Bestest, Jerry Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 11:29:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 19:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 39785 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 19:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 19:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.64) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 19:28:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20011030192859.1841.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.33.253] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:28:59 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:28:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <91.1293dba1.29102774@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep at LASFS and Capa Alpha we always had to print extra copies. For those ad other reasons. Rob G. http://graphic-illusion.com Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: I'm surprised the apa has no extra copies of any mailings. I belong to three apas and even the smallest one has 5 extra copies done (25 members but we send in 30 copies of our contribution) so that prospective members can see a sample mailing. On the other extreme is the Edgar Rice Burroughs apa which has 36 members but we have to send in 55 copies of our contribution because there are honorary members who get the apa, plus some copies of each mailing are sold at $15.00 each to subsidize mailing costs.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 11:46:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 19:46:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 259 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 19:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 19:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13409.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.17) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 19:46:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20011030194630.2444.qmail@web13409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.33.253] by web13409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:46:30 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:46:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <005601c16120$8b3c09e0$43ffeed8@Hjonesart> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah the full spectrum of humanity or at least those into comics, film, music, fanzines (unions within unions -- eek), or sf mingle in print -- they hack it up, abuse each other or support each other or try to inform or promote a position --some become pros--as you did through hard work and practice. I did not know until recently that fanzines existed outside the realm of comics and sf. MyArt http://graphic-illusion.com Jeffrey Jones wrote: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. Yes. Jeffrey http://wwwjeffreyjones.com ----- Original Message ----- From: CArchivist@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Vox Populi In a message dated 10/30/2001 03:42:27 AM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << I thought it meant Amateur Press Association. AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote: In a message dated 10/29/01 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, acumen@dreamscape.com writes: > what does "A.P.A" stand for? > thanks > ------------------ Amateur Press Alliance >> Both or either. I have heard both. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Oct 30 15:39:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 23:39:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 59360 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 23:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 23:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 23:39:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.bc.1c1ac07b (3932) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:39:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:39:43 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/01 11:47:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: > Yeah the full spectrum of humanity or at least those into comics, film, > music, fanzines (unions within unions -- eek), or sf mingle in print -- > they hack it up, abuse each other or support each other or try to inform or > promote a position --some become pros--as you did through hard work and > practice. I did not know until recently that fanzines existed outside the > realm of comics and sf. > MyArt > There used to be a publication called FACTSHEET FIVE which listed and reviewed hundreds of fanzines based on everything you could imagine. SF & comics formed just one small part of the whole.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From JerryBails@aol.com Tue Oct 30 17:21:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: JerryBails@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 31 Oct 2001 01:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 90188 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2001 01:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 2001 01:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2001 01:21:49 -0000 Received: from JerryBails@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.71.14f32691 (16484) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:21:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <71.14f32691.2910ac20@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:21:36 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 From: JerryBails@aol.com In a message dated 10/30/01 2:47:22 PM, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: << Yeah the full spectrum of humanity or at least those into comics, film, music, fanzines (unions within unions -- eek), or sf mingle in print -- they hack it up, abuse each other or support each other or try to inform or promote a position --some become pros--as you did through hard work and practice. I did not know until recently that fanzines existed outside the realm of comics and sf. >> Incidentally, the term 'fanzine' appears in THE NEW FONTANA DICTIONARY OF MODERN THOUGHT, third ed., edited by Alan Bullock and Stephen Trombley ISBN 0 00 255871 8 Curiously, neither comics nor s-f are mentioned as possible subjects. It mentions: ''popular music, film or sport,...cult TV programmes and ufology'' The omission may have something to do with the British origin of the dictionary. Bestest, Jerry From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Oct 30 17:41:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 31 Oct 2001 01:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18916 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2001 01:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 2001 01:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r01.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.97) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2001 01:41:22 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.12d.6cff509 (16934) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:41:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <12d.6cff509.2910b0bd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:41:17 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/30/2001 6:40:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: > There used to be a publication called FACTSHEET FIVE which listed and > reviewed hundreds of fanzines based on everything you could imagine. SF & > comics formed just one small part of the whole.--James Van Hise > saw a copy on the newstand this weekend. Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sun Nov 04 23:53:43 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 5 Nov 2001 07:53:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 53500 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2001 07:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2001 07:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 07:53:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.97] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2001 07:50:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 07:53:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] zines Message-ID: <9s5gi3+pp1b@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <71.14f32691.2910ac20@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1603 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 165.121.33.7 From: "Rob Gustaveson" X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 That is curious. "The omission may have something to do with the British origin of the dictionary." Which is? I love the etymology of words. Here is an exciting site I am composing currently: (Exciting to me, at least): http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/wellness.htm Note: To all: (http://graphic-illusion.com -- I'm always interested in acquiring or trading for fanzines I don't have. Want and sell lists are welcome here! graphic_illusion@mindspring.com (Must have excellent art and articles; older the better -- I prefer photo offset ones. Also I'm buying Tim Kirk art.) --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., JerryBails@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 10/30/01 2:47:22 PM, ninthnebula10@y... writes: > > << > Yeah the full spectrum of humanity or at least those into comics, film, > music, fanzines (unions within unions -- eek), or sf mingle in print -- they > hack it up, abuse each other or support each other or try to inform or > promote a position --some become pros--as you did through hard work and > practice. I did not know until recently that fanzines existed outside the > realm of comics and sf. > >> > > Incidentally, the term 'fanzine' appears in THE NEW FONTANA DICTIONARY OF > MODERN THOUGHT, third ed., edited by Alan Bullock and Stephen Trombley ISBN 0 > 00 255871 8 > > Curiously, neither comics nor s-f are mentioned as possible subjects. It > mentions: > ''popular music, film or sport,...cult TV programmes and ufology'' > > The omission may have something to do with the British origin of the > dictionary. > > Bestest, > > Jerry From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Mon Nov 05 09:23:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 5 Nov 2001 17:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 43926 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2001 17:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2001 17:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 17:23:11 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22351 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:23:09 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.43] (fre-33.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.43]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21999; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:23:06 -0600 Message-Id: <200111051723.LAA21999@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Fwd: Don't miss the event of the year - the National Comic Book Date: Mon, 5 Nov 01 11:23:06 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: "Mark Edmonds" , , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Sorry for cross posts - I am oging to have 3 table sat this show. Maybe see you there? this came in right before i head out east. Robert Beerbohm Subject: Don't miss the event of the year - the National Comic Book, Art Sent: 11/10/20 7:33 AM Received: 11/5/01 11:19 AM From: Big Apple Conventions, bigapplecon@earthlink.net To: Michael Carbonaro, bigapplecon@earthlink.net Untitled Document November 9-10-11 2001, at the Metropolitan Pavilon 125 West 18th Street, Between 6th and 7th Aves. Celebrities: a.. Actress Karen Lynn Gorney (Saturday Night Fever). a.. The Incredible Hulk LOU FERRIGNO a.. ECW's Jasmine St. Claire & BLUE MEANIE a.. Soupy Sales a.. David Carradine - TV series Kung Fu a.. Mickey Freeman - Sgt. Bilko show a.. Kathy Garver - Cissy from Family Affair a.. Nutopia - Model a.. Anandi a.. Playboy Playmate Cindy Guyer a.. model Manon Kelly - Sat. only a.. model Debbie D. a.. model Stacy E. Walker Star Wars guests: a.. Darth Maul - Ray Park a.. Darth Vader - David Prowse a.. Chewbacca - Peter Mayhew a.. Richard LeParmentier - Adm. Motti of Star Wars Artists: a.. Carmine Infantino a.. Jim Steranko - 10a-1p Sat & Sun. only a.. Irwin Donenfeld, son of DC founder Harry Donenfeld, publisher in his own right of DC from 1953 thru 1968 a.. Sam Keith (&) Kevin Eastman a.. Jeff Smith a.. John Romita Sr. a.. Mike Esposito a.. Joe Michael Linsner a.. Jae Lee a.. Mike Gold a.. Jim Warren a.. Flo Steinberg a.. Herb Trimpe & Linda Fite a.. Walt & Louise Simonson a.. Terry Moore a.. The museum of cartoon & comic art featuring Klaus Jansen & Ted Rall a.. Ramona Fradon - sat. only a.. Dick Ayers a.. Rudy Nebres - sat. only a.. Joe Staton - fri. & sat. only a.. Murphy Anderson - sat. only a.. Irwin Hasen a.. Trina Robbins a.. Panels by "Superman" writer Mark Schultz, a.. Comic writers James Sherman and Link Yaco a.. Rugrats comic artist Scott Roberts a.. Tim Vigil a.. Jim Calafiore - AQUAMAN, DEAD POOL a.. Lee Lorenz a.. Joe Jusko a.. David Mack a.. Andy Lee a.. Joe Simon a.. Jimmy Palmiotti - Sat. Only a.. Amanda Conner - Sat. Only a.. Adam Kubert - Tent. Sun. only a.. Billy Tucci - Tent. Sat. Only a.. Jay Maeder - writer w/ NY Daily News a.. Dave Simons a.. Graig Weich - Learn to Draw art Class a.. J. David Spurlock Publishers: a.. the Comic Book Museum a.. the Museum of Comic & Cartoon Art a.. Innervision Comics a.. Get your comics graded and approved by Comics Guaranty Corp a.. Heavy Metal Magz. a.. The Antiques News More T.B.A. & more celebrities to be announced. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This email sent by http://www.EmailFactory.com The Web-Based Precision Opt-In Email Marketing Solution. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mailing list, go to: http://bye.emailfactory.com/handler/default.cfm?idaddress=L4847401002.18023 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From caplana@aol.com Tue Nov 06 08:35:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: caplana@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 6 Nov 2001 16:35:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 92679 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2001 16:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2001 16:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.66) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 16:35:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: caplana@aol.com Received: from [10.1.2.27] by n16.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2001 16:35:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 16:35:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Anybody Hear About a Zine Called GLORM? Message-ID: <9s93gk+89d2@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 319 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 216.140.214.206 From: "Aaron Caplan" X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey I've been asked to check around to find out about a comic/sci-fi zine called GLORM. It was published in the mid-1970s from San Jose CA. Anybody know where I can get copies of these? Thanks. -Aaron Caplan- To Robert Beerbohm - I will be at the New York Show this Saturday. Bring your fanzines as I'm there to buy!! From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Nov 07 08:08:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 7 Nov 2001 16:07:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6500 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2001 16:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Nov 2001 16:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2001 16:07:57 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.b6.144f87e (16487) for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:07:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:07:40 EST Subject: [cbzines] Anybody Hear About a Zine Called Marvel Main? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was looking through an old RBCC (1960s issue) and saw an add for a fanzine called MARVEL MAIN #4 which boasts a long interview with Steve Ditko. Anybody here have this?--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 12:29:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 11 Nov 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 50515 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.64) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 20:29:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20011111202935.86703.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.37.214] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:29:35 PST Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:29:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fwd: Don't miss the event of the year - the National Comic Book To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200111051723.LAA21999@www.teknetwork.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow. Let us (me) know how it was for you! If I had a few thousand I'd come to it.! Robert Beerbohm wrote: Sorry for cross posts - I am oging to have 3 table sat this show. Maybe see you there? this came in right before i head out east. Robert Beerbohm Subject: Don't miss the event of the year - the National Comic Book, Art Sent: 11/10/20 7:33 AM Received: 11/5/01 11:19 AM From: Big Apple Conventions, bigapplecon@earthlink.net To: Michael Carbonaro, bigapplecon@earthlink.net Untitled Document November 9-10-11 2001, at the Metropolitan Pavilon 125 West 18th Street, Between 6th and 7th Aves. Celebrities: a.. Actress Karen Lynn Gorney (Saturday Night Fever). a.. The Incredible Hulk LOU FERRIGNO a.. ECW's Jasmine St. Claire & BLUE MEANIE a.. Soupy Sales a.. David Carradine - TV series Kung Fu a.. Mickey Freeman - Sgt. Bilko show a.. Kathy Garver - Cissy from Family Affair a.. Nutopia - Model a.. Anandi a.. Playboy Playmate Cindy Guyer a.. model Manon Kelly - Sat. only a.. model Debbie D. a.. model Stacy E. Walker Star Wars guests: a.. Darth Maul - Ray Park a.. Darth Vader - David Prowse a.. Chewbacca - Peter Mayhew a.. Richard LeParmentier - Adm. Motti of Star Wars Artists: a.. Carmine Infantino a.. Jim Steranko - 10a-1p Sat & Sun. only a.. Irwin Donenfeld, son of DC founder Harry Donenfeld, publisher in his own right of DC from 1953 thru 1968 a.. Sam Keith (&) Kevin Eastman a.. Jeff Smith a.. John Romita Sr. a.. Mike Esposito a.. Joe Michael Linsner a.. Jae Lee a.. Mike Gold a.. Jim Warren a.. Flo Steinberg a.. Herb Trimpe & Linda Fite a.. Walt & Louise Simonson a.. Terry Moore a.. The museum of cartoon & comic art featuring Klaus Jansen & Ted Rall a.. Ramona Fradon - sat. only a.. Dick Ayers a.. Rudy Nebres - sat. only a.. Joe Staton - fri. & sat. only a.. Murphy Anderson - sat. only a.. Irwin Hasen a.. Trina Robbins a.. Panels by "Superman" writer Mark Schultz, a.. Comic writers James Sherman and Link Yaco a.. Rugrats comic artist Scott Roberts a.. Tim Vigil a.. Jim Calafiore - AQUAMAN, DEAD POOL a.. Lee Lorenz a.. Joe Jusko a.. David Mack a.. Andy Lee a.. Joe Simon a.. Jimmy Palmiotti - Sat. Only a.. Amanda Conner - Sat. Only a.. Adam Kubert - Tent. Sun. only a.. Billy Tucci - Tent. Sat. Only a.. Jay Maeder - writer w/ NY Daily News a.. Dave Simons a.. Graig Weich - Learn to Draw art Class a.. J. David Spurlock Publishers: a.. the Comic Book Museum a.. the Museum of Comic & Cartoon Art a.. Innervision Comics a.. Get your comics graded and approved by Comics Guaranty Corp a.. Heavy Metal Magz. a.. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Nov 11 17:44:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 12 Nov 2001 01:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 64985 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2001 01:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Nov 2001 01:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2001 01:44:17 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.e4.1dade34f (4197) for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:44:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:44:11 EST Subject: [cbzines] FANZINE ABOUT FANZINES To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 While "Factsheet 5" is apparently dead, I did see today on the newstand a fanzine about fanzines (I think the title was "Zines"). I didn't look too carefuly to tell if it had comics or sf fanzines in it though. steven rowe From flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 14:16:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 14 Nov 2001 22:16:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 30432 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 22:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2001 22:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.71) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 22:16:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.4.82] by n21.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2001 22:13:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:16:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: November Comic and Zine Reviews Message-ID: <9suqf4+4ovo@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 235 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.207.64 From: "W.E. Elliott" X-Yahoo-Profile: flesh_on_bone Comics and Zines! Check out the new Reviews for November and leave a link to your site in the Guest Book while you're there! http://members.tripod.com/almostnormalcomics/ Almost Normal Comics PO Box 12822 Ft. Huachuca, AZ 85670 From Founder@ORCAfresh.net Sat Nov 17 06:01:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 17 Nov 2001 14:01:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29261 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2001 14:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2001 14:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.52) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 14:01:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Founder@ORCAfresh.net Received: from [10.1.4.24] by n2.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2001 14:01:45 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:01:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanksgiving 2001 Wishes Message-ID: <9t5qk2+ncok@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 855 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.197.167 From: Founder@ORCAfresh.net X-Yahoo-Profile: rickolney Hi, We're getting closer to the 2001 celebration of Thanksgiving here in America. It'll take place in homes all arcoss the USA this coming Thursday, November 22nd. I won't keep you long reading this message. I simply wanted you (each as individuals) to know that I'm thankful for your friendship, support and input. Each year of the last ten, I've tried to be a kind and thankful person. The last two years have been hectic personally. My health has dropped a little and I'm fighting hard to balance my obtainable real goals and insure an exciting 2002. So for me, 2001 is a year to become forgotten; not my friendships, or good blessings. With that said, I'm thankful for a family & friendship circle that surpasses all others. Enjoy the coming week and spend Thanksgiving in your heart. Regards, --Rick Olney http://www.orcafresh.net From maryellen568@webtv.net Sun Nov 18 10:15:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Nov 2001 18:15:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6982 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 18:15:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2001 18:15:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 18:15:02 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 2467E1B9F; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id KAA23185; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAgRmMWJRSWJe17DTIO/CPrlYrv7wCFHgILCCC9axFqI5wH6gT2xqz8VzP Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:14:58 -0500 (EST) To: caplana@aol.com, acumen@dreamscape.com, brblack100@accomics.com, ditko37@sympatico.ca, Col_Dowd@hotmail.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, EDenApPLePiez@aol.com, FatSal2@aol.com, Founder@ORCAfresh.net, GCarl0007@aol.com, gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com, jmain44@yahoo.com, jameshburns@webtv.net, JerryBails@aol.com, Jimvanhise@aol.com, jack_t_chance@yahoo.com, loridroh@hotmail.com, LyleTucker@zianet.com, mail2ac@accomics.com, RayDowd@ptd.net, MSHeike@accomics.com, tarnknight69@yahoo.com, contact@patrickmacnee.com, tazwert@yahoo.com, PDDrohan@aol.com, pr-publications@webtv.net, chrono@microcore.net, gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com, rob@toymania.com, beerbohm@teknetwork.com, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com, scootersauction@yahoo.com, kinseeker1@aol.com, ogden@csd.com, Steve_Rogers_Captain_America@Yahoo.com, tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com, delicioustee2003@netzero.com, theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com, flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com, logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk Subject: ThanksGiving Message-ID: <4745-3BF7FAA2-827@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Profile: bigguy5710310 I Want To Wish You A Happy ThanksGiving, From Allen. From maryellen568@webtv.net Sun Nov 18 10:19:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Nov 2001 18:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20049 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 18:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2001 18:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 18:19:08 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 14089140A; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id KAA23276; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:19:04 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQrXyjDBo84poIXcfeYkih7fWQpGAIUSLvaR12mmsLQU13YCSGgQbI/TLo= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:19:04 -0500 (EST) To: caplana@aol.com, acumen@dreamscape.com, brblack100@accomics.com, ditko37@sympatico.ca, Col_Dowd@hotmail.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, EDenApPLePiez@aol.com, FatSal2@aol.com, Founder@ORCAfresh.net, GCarl0007@aol.com, gustaveson@graphic-illusion.com, jmain44@yahoo.com, jameshburns@webtv.net, JerryBails@aol.com, Jimvanhise@aol.com, jack_t_chance@yahoo.com, loridroh@hotmail.com, LyleTucker@zianet.com, mail2ac@accomics.com, RayDowd@ptd.net, MSHeike@accomics.com, tarnknight69@yahoo.com, contact@patrickmacnee.com, tazwert@yahoo.com, PDDrohan@aol.com, pr-publications@webtv.net, chrono@microcore.net, rob@toymania.com, beerbohm@teknetwork.com, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com, scootersauction@yahoo.com, kinseeker1@aol.com, ogden@csd.com, Steve_Rogers_Captain_America@Yahoo.com, tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com, delicioustee2003@netzero.com, theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com, flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com, logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk Subject: ThanksGiving Message-ID: <4745-3BF7FB98-831@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Profile: bigguy5710310 I Want To Wish You A Happy ThanksGiving, From Allen. From maryellen568@webtv.net Sun Nov 18 10:20:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Nov 2001 18:20:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17773 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 18:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2001 18:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 18:20:56 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4CDEAF; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id KAA23304; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:20:53 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQpi1ZhvyHWy266v6rIKb6L8GIUrQIVAKsM+C1k8ufMJb4fPiX5TW4B6ukz Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:20:52 -0500 (EST) To: caplana@aol.com, acumen@dreamscape.com, brblack100@accomics.com, ditko37@sympatico.ca, Col_Dowd@hotmail.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, EDenApPLePiez@aol.com, FatSal2@aol.com, Founder@ORCAfresh.net, GCarl0007@aol.com, jmain44@yahoo.com, jameshburns@webtv.net, JerryBails@aol.com, Jimvanhise@aol.com, jack_t_chance@yahoo.com, loridroh@hotmail.com, LyleTucker@zianet.com, mail2ac@accomics.com, RayDowd@ptd.net, MSHeike@accomics.com, tarnknight69@yahoo.com, contact@patrickmacnee.com, tazwert@yahoo.com, PDDrohan@aol.com, pr-publications@webtv.net, chrono@microcore.net, rob@toymania.com, beerbohm@teknetwork.com, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com, scootersauction@yahoo.com, kinseeker1@aol.com, ogden@csd.com, Steve_Rogers_Captain_America@Yahoo.com, tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com, delicioustee2003@netzero.com, theoryofeverythingzine@hotmail.com, flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com, logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk Subject: ThanksGiving Message-ID: <4745-3BF7FC04-833@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Profile: bigguy5710310 I Want To Wish You A Happy ThanksGiving, From Allen. From flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 21:46:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Nov 2001 05:46:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 98614 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 05:46:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2001 05:46:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.60) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2001 05:46:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.30] by n10.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2001 05:46:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:46:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking for resources! Message-ID: <9u76f7+4csj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1125 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 205.188.200.23 From: "W.E. Elliott" X-Yahoo-Profile: flesh_on_bone Comic and Zine Fans, I've noticed it's not always easy to find someone to distro your zine, or print your comic, or maybe carry your zine or comic in their store. So, I decided I would try to make it a little bit easier. I'm in the process of building a comic and zine resource page for the Almost Normal Comics web site, so I'm sending this email out to all you fellow zine and small press comic folks in the hope you can provide some info. We all obviously like zines, or comics, or both. Because we all share this common interest I'm thinking we must have a vast wealth of knowledge about various zine and comic resources between us. What I'm looking for are all of the comic and zine friendly Distros, Stores, and Printers you know of. I need their names, address, websites, and email, or whatever info you might have. As I get the info I'll post it on my site. You can send whatever you have to my email flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com or just post it here. Whatever information you can offer will be much appreciated! Thanks, WEE Almost Normal Comics http://members.tripod.com/almostnormalcomics/ From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Dec 01 05:34:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 13:34:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 91950 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 13:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 13:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 13:34:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16772 invoked by alias); 1 Dec 2001 13:34:23 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 16713 invoked by uid 0); 1 Dec 2001 13:34:23 -0000 Received: from roswell0042.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.42) by zianet.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 13:34:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3C08DC67.3090404@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 06:34:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: Always Time for More Wood (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Thanks once again to our pal Pat Hilger for providing us with this grand gem and thereby illustrating the old saw that you Can't Judge A Book By Its Cover. Here are the rather pedestrian Cover and first 7 pages of IW Enterprises DR. FU MANCHU #1. If you'd been flipping through the bins and saw this cover you'd've never guessed of the beauty laying just below (Can anyone ID the cover artist? Why on earth they didn't commission Wally to do it is be- yond my feeble understanding.) Enjoy: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Cover.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/01.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/02.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/03.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/04.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/05.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/06.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/07.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sat Dec 01 08:39:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 16:39:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 20948 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 16:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 16:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 16:39:48 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.8f.13506185 (4242) for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:39:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8f.13506185.293a61d1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:39:45 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/1/01 8:35:32 AM US Eastern Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/01.jpg > Lyle, my guess on the cover art would be Don Heck. In fact, it looks like he may have done his own inks over his pencils, since the composition of the panel looks quite a bit like Heck's work. But that is pure speculation on my part. I don't have a clue who actually did the work. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Dec 01 10:22:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 18:22:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19919 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 18:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 18:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 18:22:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.48.2a2677f (3933) for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:22:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <48.2a2677f.293a79f5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:22:45 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/1/01 8:40:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, KINGGEO3@aol.com writes: > Lyle, my guess on the cover art would be Don Heck. In fact, it looks like > he > may have done his own inks over his pencils, since the composition of the > panel looks quite a bit like Heck's work. But that is pure speculation on > my > part. For some reason IW always had new covers. Apparently when they bought the original printing plates the covers weren't included. The cover for Strange Planets #11 (reprinting AN EARTH MAN ON VENUS) is also pretty lame.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mvhaas@elpaso.net Sat Dec 01 10:50:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 18:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 69975 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 18:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 18:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 18:50:33 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB1IoVR14244 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:50:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1007222697.1522.18387.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1007222697.1522.18387.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:53:32 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fu Manchu scans Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder > From: lyletucker >Subject: Always Time for More Wood (OT) > >Thanks once again to our pal Pat Hilger for providing us with this >grand gem and thereby illustrating the old saw that you Can't Judge >A Book By Its Cover. Here are the rather pedestrian Cover and >first 7 pages of IW Enterprises DR. FU MANCHU #1. If you'd >been flipping through the bins and saw this cover you'd've never >guessed of the beauty laying just below (Can anyone ID the cover >artist? Why on earth they didn't commission Wally to do it is be- >yond my feeble understanding.) Enjoy: > It's hard to tell from the scan but there's a signature along the lower left side that starts "McL..." It might be Frank McLaughlin. IW was a fly-by-night outfit that acquired used printing plates of comics from dubious sources and just slapped new covers on them. I doubt that they knew or cared that Wood did the art. They were just trying to make a fast buck. This is a reprint of Avon's "The Mask of Dr. Fu Manchu" from 1951. 26 pages of Wood art in the original. best -- Merlin Haas From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Dec 01 12:08:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 20:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 70079 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 20:08:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 20:08:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 20:08:55 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25679 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:08:54 -0600 Received: from [204.77.185.57] (fre-47.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.57]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25594 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:08:53 -0600 Message-Id: <200112012008.OAA25594@www.teknetwork.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 182 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 01 14:08:53 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics >(Can anyone ID the cover >artist? Why on earth they didn't commission Wally to do it is be- >yond my feeble understanding.) Enjoy: > >http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Cover.jpg joe simon did many of the IW covers, my memory sez to me bob beerbohm From flash14221@yahoo.com Sat Dec 01 15:22:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 23:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 80720 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 23:22:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 23:22:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 23:22:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: flash14221@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.94] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2001 23:15:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 23:22:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fu Manchu scans Message-ID: <9ubono+6fcn@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1440 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 208.28.189.30 From: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Profile: flash14221 Lyle, The original AVON edition DID have a Wood cover, as well as a georgeous B&W frontis! Andrau and Esposito also did many of the IW/Super covers as well although this doesn't look like one. Sal Trapini would be my guess. Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Merlin Haas wrote: > > From: lyletucker > >Subject: Always Time for More Wood (OT) > > > >Thanks once again to our pal Pat Hilger for providing us with this > >grand gem and thereby illustrating the old saw that you Can't Judge > >A Book By Its Cover. Here are the rather pedestrian Cover and > >first 7 pages of IW Enterprises DR. FU MANCHU #1. If you'd > >been flipping through the bins and saw this cover you'd've never > >guessed of the beauty laying just below (Can anyone ID the cover > >artist? Why on earth they didn't commission Wally to do it is be- > >yond my feeble understanding.) Enjoy: > > > > It's hard to tell from the scan but there's a signature along the > lower left side that starts "McL..." It might be Frank McLaughlin. > IW was a fly-by-night outfit that acquired used printing plates of > comics from dubious sources and just slapped new covers on them. I > doubt that they knew or cared that Wood did the art. They were just > trying to make a fast buck. > This is a reprint of Avon's "The Mask of Dr. Fu Manchu" from 1951. > 26 pages of Wood art in the original. > > best -- Merlin Haas From LyleTucker@zianet.com Thu Dec 06 15:53:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 23:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19318 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 23:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 23:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 23:53:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28145 invoked by alias); 6 Dec 2001 23:53:56 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 28022 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 2001 23:53:55 -0000 Received: from roswell0144.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.144) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 23:53:55 -0000 Message-ID: <3C10051E.7040203@zianet.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 16:54:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics , Rics , timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Always Time for Wood Part II (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Interesting about the cover of the DR. FU MANCHU reprint put out by IW - here's the list of possible artists as supplied by the various lists' panels of experts: Don Heck Frank McLaughlin Myron Fass Joe Simon Sal Trapini John Guinta Sol Brodsky (according to the Grand Comics Database, but even their entry is a "possible" rather than a definite). Whoever did do it, it pales in comparison to the lovely interiors, of which here are 7 more pages: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/08.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/09.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/10.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/11.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/12.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/13.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/14.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From mvhaas@elpaso.net Fri Dec 07 07:36:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 7 Dec 2001 15:36:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20607 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2001 15:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2001 15:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 15:36:58 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsle-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB7FavM12739 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:36:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1007713136.551.71866.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1007713136.551.71866.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:40:02 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: FuManchu cover artist? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder Thanks for the second batch of scan, Lyle. Can you get out your magnifying glass and see if what looks like a signature in the blue portion of the throne on the cover is really a name or just a code number? The scan fuzzes out when I try to zoom it up large enough to try to read it. best -- Merlin Haas > From: lyletucker >Subject: Always Time for Wood Part II (OT) > >Interesting about the cover of the DR. FU MANCHU reprint put out >by IW - here's the list of possible artists as supplied by the various >lists' >panels of experts: > >Don Heck >Frank McLaughlin >Myron Fass >Joe Simon >Sal Trapini >John Guinta >Sol Brodsky (according to the Grand Comics Database, but even their >entry is a "possible" rather than a definite). > From flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com Fri Dec 07 10:24:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flesh_on_bone@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 7 Dec 2001 18:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 44340 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2001 18:24:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2001 18:24:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.60) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 18:24:17 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.134] by n10.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2001 18:24:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:24:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: My Electronic Blitzkrieg! Message-ID: <9ur1gg+j1cb@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1015 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "flesh_on_bone" X-Originating-IP: 198.26.130.37 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3173720 X-Yahoo-Profile: flesh_on_bone Okay Boys and Girls I've got a bunch of new stuff up at Almost Normal Comics! First off are the monthly Comic and Zine Reviews! December's reviews were just posted, so stop by and check 'em out! Next up is a brand spanking new page called "Comic and Zine Resources!" Here you'll find listings of comic and zine friendly Distros, Retailers, and Printers! This list will be a work in progress so check back often, and if you know of someone I've missed let me know and I'll add 'em! Then there's the new "Almost Normal Art" page! Take a look inside and see what's hung in Granny's Gallery! And last, but certainly not least for me, is Almost Normal Comics #1! Low brow art and an orgy of oddities! Here you'll find the perfect blend of underground comics and bizarre stories from the world we live (and die) in! And it's only $1.00, Cheap! Check out some sample pages by following the "Buy Theses Comics!" link. Stop by Almost Normal Comics today! http://members.tripod.com/almostnormalcomics/ From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Dec 07 15:33:15 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 7 Dec 2001 23:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26096 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2001 23:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2001 23:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 23:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29043 invoked by alias); 7 Dec 2001 23:33:39 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 28991 invoked by uid 0); 7 Dec 2001 23:33:39 -0000 Received: from roswell0184.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.184) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 23:33:39 -0000 Message-ID: <3C1151DE.9050401@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 16:33:50 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Always Time for Wood Part II Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Oh, I forgot to mention, Doc V. and Dave O'Dell are holding out for Carl Burgos as Mystery Artist for the cover of IW's DR. FU MAN- CHU. Doc says, in what I hear as a rather authortarian voice, "It's not Don Heck, John Guinta or Sol Brodsky, for sure!" (Myself, I'd have a hard time going against Doc V's artist ID'ing abilities - the man has developed one wicked eye) Let me add that it sure looks like Artie Simek's inking, to me. (I say, I say...that's a joke, son!) -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sat Dec 08 07:15:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 8 Dec 2001 15:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 88196 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2001 15:15:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2001 15:15:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2001 15:15:38 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.35.1f3a20ca (2172) for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:15:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35.1f3a20ca.29438896@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:15:34 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Always Time for Wood Part II To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995 X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/7/01 6:35:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > Oh, I forgot to mention, Doc V. and Dave O'Dell are holding out for > Carl Burgos as Mystery Artist for the cover of IW's DR. FU MAN- > CHU. Doc says, in what I hear as a rather authortarian voice, "It's > not Don Heck, John Guinta or Sol Brodsky, for sure!" (Myself, I'd > have a hard time going against Doc V's artist ID'ing abilities - the man > has developed one wicked eye) > ---------------- Aw, Lyle!!! Here I've been, voicing the same opinion, well, on another list, I guess, and you didn't mention my name up with the big guys like Doc and Dave. Susan pays me lots of attention, but I need some comic book things to get wound up with to be interested in them as well. ;8o) --steve cohen Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Dec 08 15:15:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 8 Dec 2001 23:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 91219 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2001 23:15:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2001 23:15:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2001 23:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 333 invoked by alias); 8 Dec 2001 23:15:37 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 286 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 2001 23:15:36 -0000 Received: from roswell0107.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.107) by zianet.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2001 23:15:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3C129F1C.8020600@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:15:40 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: I.W.'s DR. FU MANCHU cover artist ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Okay, I had already sent the comic back to Pat "Wildebeest" Hilger, so was waiting for word back from him. He says he's quite certain the signature on the cover is Frank McLaughlin's. So there ya have it, straight from the wildebeest's mouth. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Dec 12 18:08:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 02:08:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1621 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 02:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 02:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 02:08:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25194 invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2001 02:04:38 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 25082 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2001 02:04:36 -0000 Received: from roswell0024.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.24) by zianet.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 02:04:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3C180C93.20508@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:04:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com Subject: Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker In the continuing saga over "Who Drew the DR.FU MANCHU cover?", it must be admitted as evidence that Pat "Me on the Back" Hilger has taken his comic to a photocopy machine and blown up the alleged "signature" to 400 percent and can clearly see that what he thought was MCLAU was actually the last bit of the word "reissue" stacked up totem pole fashion, as alluded to by David O'Dell (my thanks to Mr. O'Dell for his diligence and supporting evidence!). Therefor, let it hereby be proclaimed that there is indeed no physical evidence that the artist in question was Frank McLaughlin. In a running tally the two most often guessed artists are Carl Burgos and Joe Simon. Between the two, I toss my weight with Burgos. IN ANY CASE, here are the last 7 pages of this lovely story: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/15.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/16.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/17.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/18.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/19.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/20.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/21.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Dec 12 18:29:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 02:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 41659 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 02:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 02:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 02:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8739 invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2001 02:29:59 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 8610 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2001 02:29:58 -0000 Received: from roswell0024.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.24) by zianet.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 02:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <3C181283.1020307@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:29:23 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, Off-Topic@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l Subject: Scanner Help (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a decently priced 11 x 17 flatbed scanner (trying to scan larger pieces with the 8 1/2 x 11 is simply too difficult). It seems like the only ones being made are specifically for businesses and priced for them. If anyone knows where a person can get a decently priced 11 x 17 flatbed scanner, I'd appreciate the info (please contact me personally). Thanks in advance! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From KINGGEO3@aol.com Wed Dec 12 19:05:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 03:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 77435 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 03:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 03:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 03:05:21 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.fc.10974a35 (3842) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:05:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:05:16 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scanner Help (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree Lyle. I'd like to find a decently priced 11 x 17 scanner also! Perhaps one of those printer/scanner/fax machines are the way to go. Maybe those models have a large enough carriage? But I'd love to have one too. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From RJCroxton@aol.com Wed Dec 12 20:19:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 04:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 96788 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 04:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 04:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 04:19:42 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.83.1491df12 (16636) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:19:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <83.1491df12.29498658@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:19:36 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Scanner Help (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10540 From: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1099334 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/12/01 9:07:59 PM Central Standard Time, KINGGEO3@aol.com writes: > I agree Lyle. I'd like to find a decently priced 11 x 17 scanner also! > Perhaps one of those printer/scanner/fax machines are the way to go. Maybe > those models have a large enough carriage? But I'd love to have one too. > > George Lane > > > I have a Printer/scanner/copier Lexmark and it has been a fantastic machine. But it isn't any bigger than the regular scanners. I like that it takes very little space. Richard J. Croxton Ric's Comics Check out my gold/silver/bronze age scans Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flash14221@yahoo.com Wed Dec 12 22:14:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 06:14:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23117 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 06:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 06:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.59) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 06:14:15 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.118] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2001 06:14:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:14:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ronn Foss Message-ID: <9v9gvn+8nc9@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 344 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "flash14221" X-Originating-IP: 208.28.179.138 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=60061398 X-Yahoo-Profile: flash14221 By the way, the late Ronn Foss's son, Dr Scott E. Foss appears this week on the Discovery Channel special "WALKING WITH PREHISTORIC BEASTS". He hosts the segment on prehistoric mammals jaws about two thirds through the program. He is the spitting image of his dad. I guess you CAN learn something from reading these funny books after all! Gord From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Thu Dec 13 10:17:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 18:17:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11768 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.59) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 18:17:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20011213181742.56150.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:17:42 PST Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:17:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3C180C93.20508@zianet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59418117 X-Yahoo-Profile: tarnknight69 could it be toth? --- lyletucker wrote: > In the continuing saga over "Who Drew the DR.FU > MANCHU cover?", > it must be admitted as evidence that Pat "Me on the > Back" Hilger has > taken his comic to a photocopy machine and blown up > the alleged "signature" > to 400 percent and can clearly see that what he > thought was MCLAU > was actually the last bit of the word "reissue" > stacked up totem pole > fashion, > as alluded to by David O'Dell (my thanks to Mr. > O'Dell for his diligence > and supporting evidence!). Therefor, let it hereby > be proclaimed that > there is indeed no physical evidence that the artist > in question was Frank > McLaughlin. In a running tally the two most often > guessed artists are > Carl Burgos and Joe Simon. Between the two, I toss > my weight with > Burgos. > IN ANY CASE, here are the last 7 pages of this > lovely story: > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/15.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/16.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/17.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/18.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/19.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/20.jpg > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/21.jpg > > -- > Lyle Tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Thu Dec 13 10:47:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 18:47:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7200 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 18:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 18:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 18:47:21 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.ac.1f6f3a1a (2168) for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:47:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:47:16 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995 X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/01 1:19:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: > could it be toth? > ------------- How's that again? ;o) --steve cohen Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Dec 13 12:33:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 13 Dec 2001 20:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 61212 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 20:33:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2001 20:33:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 20:33:30 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.39.1f52f653 (16930) for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:33:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <39.1f52f653.294a6a8f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:33:19 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/2001 1:19:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, tarnknight69@yahoo.com writes: > could it be toth? > Toth was on the west coast by this time, and Waldman did use mainly the same guys ... Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fanzinelover@yahoo.com Thu Dec 13 18:25:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: fanzinelover@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 14 Dec 2001 02:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 32393 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2001 02:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2001 02:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.55) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2001 02:25:22 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.140] by n5.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2001 02:25:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:25:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) Message-ID: <9vbnug+um5v@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <39.1f52f653.294a6a8f@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 211 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fanzinelover" X-Originating-IP: 63.36.207.118 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=74834400 X-Yahoo-Profile: fanzinelover What about Ric Estrada or Sam Grainger or Dan Spiegle? Maybe lots of hands worked on it. Really not Don Heck? Im no expert - just throwing in my 2 cents worth of what I see in it. Take care - fanzinelover From DocV@Prodigy.net Thu Dec 13 19:55:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 14 Dec 2001 03:55:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 60732 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2001 03:55:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2001 03:55:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.102) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2001 03:55:30 -0000 Received: from [63.253.76.141] (A070-0141.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.76.141]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fBE3tTR301484 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:55:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200112140355.fBE3tTR301484@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:54:44 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238939 X-Yahoo-Profile: uncannytales -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- fanzinelover wrote: > What about Ric Estrada or Sam Grainger or Dan Spiegle? Maybe lots of hands > worked on it. Really not Don Heck? Im no expert - just throwing in my 2 > cents worth of what I see in it. Based on much research into Atlas post-code cover artists and immersing myself in Carl Burgos' Timely/Atlas career, the style is seemingly "most" like Burgos of 1955-59, 1959 being the "mystery artist" of the earliest pre- hero Marvel sci-fi issues. What really convinces me is the fact that I've finally found 3 "signed" Burgos illos circa 1956 in a Goodman western digest and they are the spitting stylistic image of the man on the left of that cover. Am I 100% sure? No. It's just the best guess from the scan. Doc V. From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Dec 14 17:50:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 15 Dec 2001 01:50:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 56323 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2001 01:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2001 01:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2001 01:50:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8745 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2001 01:51:06 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 8597 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2001 01:51:05 -0000 Received: from roswell0089.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.89) by zianet.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2001 01:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: <3C1AAC7B.2070506@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:50:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Plug For A Buddy (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker My good friend and inker extraordinaire, Bob Rivard, has some new inking work out with Image's BIG BANG imprint: Ultiman Giant #1. Bob inks the second story and from what I've seen, it looks *great*. Bob is really in his element here, as he's a huge Curt Swan/Murphy Anderson enthusiast. Here's a scan of the splash page: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/ultipage1.jpg Run out and buy a copy now! Heck, pick up two, as it's bound to be an instant classic. Read one and slab the other - you'll be able to retire on it in five years from now, trust me! Better yet, send me all your money and I'll send you a map to your newly acquired property in Florida. Do it within the next five minutes and I'll toss in this handy-dandy potato slicer! But wait, that's not all! If you act now....... -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From DocV@Prodigy.net Fri Dec 14 19:06:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 15 Dec 2001 03:06:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 64525 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2001 03:06:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2001 03:06:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.77) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2001 03:06:39 -0000 Received: from [63.253.85.134] (A080-1150.NYCM.splitrock.net [63.253.85.134]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fBF36co129352 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:06:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200112150306.fBF36co129352@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:05:53 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238939 X-Yahoo-Profile: uncannytales -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- I wrote: > Based on much research into Atlas post-code cover artists and immersing myself > in Carl Burgos' Timely/Atlas career, the style is seemingly "most" like Burgos > of 1955-59, 1959 being the "mystery artist" of the earliest pre- hero Marvel > sci-fi issues. What really convinces me is the fact that I've finally found 3 > "signed" Burgos illos circa 1956 in a Goodman western digest and they are the > spitting stylistic image of the man on the left of that cover. I meant the man in the middle being held captive!! Doc V. From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Dec 14 19:20:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 15 Dec 2001 03:20:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 65496 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2001 03:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2001 03:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2001 03:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18991 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2001 03:20:46 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 18727 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2001 03:20:44 -0000 Received: from roswell0089.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.89) by zianet.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2001 03:20:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3C1AC17B.9040400@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:20:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, Bob and Kim Rivard , laurie anderson Subject: Review: MIDNITE MASQUERADER PRESENTS #3 (OT) References: <3C1AAC7B.2070506@zianet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker It should be obvious by now that Gordon Green puts out the kind of fanzines I enjoy. As much as I love the slick mags like TJKC and CBA and CBM, there's alot to be said for the type of zine where its clear that an individual with limited resources set about to produce as fun a package as they could, being steered chiefly by their love of the medium. Luckily for all of us, technology has evolved well beyond the limitations of mim- eograph, and because of that, Gordon is able to present the material he's gathered in a format that would've had the early zine pioneers drooling with envy. MIDNITE MASQUERADER PRESENTS: ALL TIMELY MYSTERY COMICS Volume #2 is the 90 page (!) conclu- sion of an examination of TIMELY COMICS. Like all of Gordon's mags, it is chockful of illustrations (many full-page and several in that wonderful 11 x 17 fold-out format of his that I enjoy so well), as well as informative text. This issue kicks off with a scintillating, illuminating, extremely erudite and mercifully short introduction by Yours Truly (certainly worth the price of admission in itself!). After my bilious rambling the ish gets down to business, with Mike Barson (of MADNESS fame, I wonder?) tracing the horror content of the first ten CAPTAIN AMERICA COMICS in his highly entertaining article, "Cap Meets the Monsters." I thoroughly enjoyed Mike's tongue-in-cheek excoriation of TIMELY's promise for monsters that never really quite appear within the pages (almost to a one the monsters turn out to be shams!). Comic Historian Ron Goulart then gives us a rundown of TIMELY's superhero output with, "The Timely Titles." Beginning at the beginning with MARVEL COMICS, he takes us on a tour through DARING and MYSTIC and YOUNG ALLIES, all the way to the end of the '40s when the superhero craze waned and the company switched over to mainly humor- ous titles. This article is brimming with covers and interior page artwork from the relevant titles. Next up is a fascinating profile of ol' Igneous Head, THE HUMAN TORCH! Once again lavishly illustrated, this article provides a nice overview of the living fireball and his creators. "A TIMELY Who's Who" spotlights some of the lesser known TIMELY workhorses in quick paragraph form, with, of course, accompanying illustrations. If you're not familiar with the names Edd Ashe, Mike Roy, or George Mandel, this article will bring you up to snuff. There's a short profile of that exotically mustachioed man-amongst- men, THE ANGEL, followed by "Funnies, Inc." an article by Ron Goulart, looking at the comic "shop" that helped put TIMELY on the map. The issue ends, appropriately enough, with R. J. Vitore's lengthy ode to Simon and Kirby, two of the undeniable dynamos of the industry. Despite a few illos having that "blown-up and pixillated from having been drug off of the 'Net" look, the art is crisp and enjoyable; the text is entertaining and informative; and the entire feel of the mag is fun. I recommend it without reservation. Go here to look at the cover: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/midnitemasq.jpg Click here to contact Gordon about ordering info (and to ask him if he still has any copies of #1 on hand - I know he was offering the two together at a discounted price earlier - with a little finagling you might be able to get him to capitulate): flash14221@yahoo.com -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Dec 17 05:28:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 17 Dec 2001 13:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26755 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2001 13:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Dec 2001 13:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 13:28:32 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.d1.111b4999 (4250) for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:28:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:28:25 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Always Time for More Wood Part III (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/2001 9:28:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, fanzinelover@yahoo.com writes: > What about Ric Estrada or Sam Grainger or Dan Spiegle at the time: Ric was in Europe, Sam in North Carolina, Dan in Califronia. Waldman worked only with New Yorkers. Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alortie@tmlp.com Mon Dec 17 12:46:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 17 Dec 2001 20:46:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 90428 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2001 20:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Dec 2001 20:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.70) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 20:46:47 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.23] by n20.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2001 20:40:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:46:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Star Studded Comics Message-ID: <9vlljl+vs4h@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 525 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "neversurrender8" X-Originating-IP: 209.117.43.80 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3626745 X-Yahoo-Profile: neversurrender8 I need to beg / borrow / steal or get scans / xeroxes of Star-Studded Comics #11-12, 16 [both of which featured Stan Pitt art, I believe] and -- especially -- #17, which had a Warrior of Llarn adaptation by Sam Grainger. Can anyone assist? I can reciprocate with ---?? [ie., whatcha need?] Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 "Gif me a viskey -- ginger ale on the side -- and don't be stingy, baby." -- Greta Garbo's first line in the movies, in "Anna Christie" From mgilbert@efn.org Tue Dec 18 06:43:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 18 Dec 2001 14:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 31135 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2001 14:43:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2001 14:43:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (206.163.176.10) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 14:43:04 -0000 Received: from [206.163.181.133] (56k-005.efn.org [206.163.181.133]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBIEh2v15433 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:43:02 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:37:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 190 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1008667559.385.14376.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: "Michael T. Gilbert" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Art: I have most issues of Star-studded in my collection. If no one else has it let me know and I'll see what I can do. Best wishes, Michael T. PS Do you have any of Wood's Bucky Ruckus strips that you could copy for me? > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 18 Dec 2001 09:25:59 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 190 > > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:46:45 -0000 > From: "neversurrender8" > Subject: Star Studded Comics > > I need to beg / borrow / steal or get scans / xeroxes of Star-Studded > Comics #11-12, 16 [both of which featured Stan Pitt art, I believe] > and -- especially -- #17, which had a Warrior of Llarn adaptation by > Sam Grainger. > > Can anyone assist? > > I can reciprocate with ---?? [ie., whatcha need?] > > Arthur Lortie > 16 Adams Street #3 > Taunton, MA 02780-2504 > USA > > ALortie@tmlp.com > 508-828-5821 > > "Gif me a viskey -- ginger ale on the side -- and don't be stingy, > baby." -- Greta Garbo's first line in the movies, in "Anna Christie" > I From alortie@tmlp.com Tue Dec 18 11:29:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 18 Dec 2001 19:29:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 70983 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2001 19:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2001 19:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.54) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 19:29:02 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.50] by n4.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2001 19:29:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:29:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 190 Message-ID: <9vo5ds+ssmq@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1297 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "neversurrender8" X-Originating-IP: 209.117.43.224 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3626745 X-Yahoo-Profile: neversurrender8 Michael T. Gilbert wrote: > I have most issues of Star-studded in my > collection. If no one else has it let me > know and I'll see what I can do. Well, I certainly came to the right group to ask! No less than four people "called" and offered! So I will soon have the info I was seeking. But it turns out my original info was in error: I was looking for Stan Pitt's Gully Foyle that I THOUGHT was in a double issue #11-12, but I'm told is in #11 and #13 instead. Which makes me wonder if other info I have on this 'zine is correct. Does anyone have an index to this publication that could go in the files area? > PS Do you have any of Wood's Bucky Ruckus > strips that you could copy for me? Funny you should ask: http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/bucky/ [Posted until 01/02/2002] Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 A lover of the comic strip 'Little Orphan Annie', [Henry] Ford despaired when Annie fell on hard times. Once when Annie's dog Sandy was missing, Ford sent this wire to 'Chicago Tribune' publisher J. M. Patterson: "DO ALL YOU CAN TO FIND SANDY" -- from Barrington Boardman's "Isaac Asimov Presents From Harding To Hiroshima; An Anecdotal History Of The United States From 1923-1945" (Dembner Books, 1988) From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Dec 18 19:09:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 19 Dec 2001 03:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 44530 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 03:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Dec 2001 03:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 03:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18194 invoked by alias); 19 Dec 2001 03:10:00 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 18101 invoked by uid 0); 19 Dec 2001 03:09:59 -0000 Received: from roswell0132.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.132) by zianet.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 03:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: <3C20050E.6000705@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:10:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.comics, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l , mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: Happy Holidays from Scrooge McTuck (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker For the first time in my adult life, I'm not sending out a single X-Mas card - not to my friends, my family, nor creditors. That being the case, I'd like to use this forum to wish all of my close friends, buddies, ac- quaintances and lurkers on the various lists a Wondrous Holidays. I'm not religious, nor am I patriotic, but it would take a person more cynical than I, I'd think, to offhandedly dismiss the tenor of these times without some reflection on the fragility of life and the value of friendship. Over the past few years we've all come to share part of ourselves, both knowingly and unwittingly, in the discussion of the art form we all love. We've endured some heated battles with one another and enjoyed the thrill of shared experiences. Even though we're just words on a screen to each other, we're far more than that. We've lost some friends over the past years, watched as one library after another burned down right in front of us, never to be replaced. We'll honor the memory of those we knew in these settings by including them in our discussions from time to time, a casually slipped "Ol' Rich would've loved to've seen that, " or a "Bruce is rolling over in his grave right now!" I can think of no better honor, for to be remembered is to have been loved. Before I end up getting too mushy, let me just say that I had no idea when I decided to give the Kirby List a shot way back in 1995 or so that I would be entering into a world I would come to enjoy so much. You're all good people (even if a few of you - and you know who you are - are nuttier than a fruitcake) and I'm looking forward to spending much of 2002 with y'all. I wish you and your loved ones a warm and loving holiday season. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 09:56:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 19 Dec 2001 17:56:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 56689 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 17:56:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Dec 2001 17:56:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11601.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.53) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 17:56:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20011219175620.57112.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.4] by web11601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:56:20 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:56:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 190 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9vo5ds+ssmq@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59418117 X-Yahoo-Profile: tarnknight69 what about howard chaykins version of gully? i thought it was very well done graphic novel --- neversurrender8 wrote: > Michael T. Gilbert wrote: > > I have most issues of Star-studded in my > > collection. If no one else has it let me > > know and I'll see what I can do. > > Well, I certainly came to the right group to ask! No > less than four > people "called" and offered! So I will soon have the > info I was > seeking. > > But it turns out my original info was in error: I > was looking for > Stan Pitt's Gully Foyle that I THOUGHT was in a > double issue #11-12, > but I'm told is in #11 and #13 instead. Which makes > me wonder if > other info I have on this 'zine is correct. > > Does anyone have an index to this publication that > could go in the > files area? > > > PS Do you have any of Wood's Bucky Ruckus > > strips that you could copy for me? > > Funny you should ask: > > http://personal.tmlp.com/alortie/bucky/ > > [Posted until 01/02/2002] > > Arthur Lortie > 16 Adams Street #3 > Taunton, MA 02780-2504 > USA > > ALortie@tmlp.com > 508-828-5821 > > A lover of the comic strip 'Little Orphan Annie', > [Henry] Ford > despaired when Annie fell on hard times. Once when > Annie's dog Sandy > was missing, Ford sent this wire to 'Chicago > Tribune' publisher J. M. > Patterson: "DO ALL YOU CAN TO FIND SANDY" -- from > Barrington > Boardman's "Isaac Asimov Presents From Harding To > Hiroshima; An > Anecdotal History Of The United States From > 1923-1945" (Dembner > Books, 1988) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Dec 19 16:41:59 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 20 Dec 2001 00:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 74624 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 00:41:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Dec 2001 00:41:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 00:41:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 14563 invoked by alias); 20 Dec 2001 00:42:36 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 14443 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2001 00:42:35 -0000 Received: from roswell0056.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.56) by zianet.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 00:42:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3C213402.1040009@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:42:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.comr, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: DR. FU MANCHU Last 4 pages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/22.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/23.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/24.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/25.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Dec 19 19:57:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 20 Dec 2001 03:57:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 77799 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 03:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Dec 2001 03:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 03:57:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26177 invoked by alias); 20 Dec 2001 03:57:12 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 25958 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2001 03:57:10 -0000 Received: from roswell0149.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.149) by zianet.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 03:57:10 -0000 Message-ID: <3C216196.20601@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:57:10 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: Always Looking To Trade Scans (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Here's my latest listing: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/ComicScansA-ZDec2001.txt I'm liberal - I'll trade a lot for a little if need be - am more interested in acquiring stuff I haven't got than making sure everything's exactly equal. Will gladly trade three discs worth of scans for one, if that's all you have. Please contact me off list if you're up to doing some swapping. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Dec 19 22:05:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 20 Dec 2001 06:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 46806 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 06:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Dec 2001 06:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 06:05:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21889 invoked by alias); 20 Dec 2001 06:05:40 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 21819 invoked by uid 0); 20 Dec 2001 06:05:40 -0000 Received: from roswell0149.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.149) by zianet.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 06:05:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3C217FB2.8040409@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:05:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l , fanzines , mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Always Looking to Trade Scans (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Ahem. My apologies, but my earlier list was short a coupla discs worth of scans, so if you looked at the list before now, go on back to here: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/ComicScansA-ZDec2001.txt as it's been updated. Keep in mind that not all issues listed are nec- essarily full issues. Some may have just a story or two (some of the Tales to Astonishes, for instance, only have the Giant Man story). If you're really interested, I can email you a listing that will show every single file I have, which will give you a solid idea as to whether any pages are missing from an issue or not. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From waffyjon@execpc.com Thu Dec 20 15:15:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: waffyjon@execpc.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 20 Dec 2001 23:15:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 60441 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2001 23:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Dec 2001 23:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net) (169.207.1.78) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 23:15:43 -0000 Received: from pop2.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (pop2.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.3.115]) by out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.4/8.11.4/1.7) with ESMTP id fBKNFjg44590; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from execpc.com (d166.as6.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net [169.207.130.40]) by pop2.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fBKNFeQ83817; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C227189.B59A515@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:17:29 -0600 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bronze , fanzines , kirby , mighty , SAGA , silver age , trivia Subject: Happy Holidays! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Knutson X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1422039 X-Yahoo-Profile: waffyjon Hello everyone... I'm heading out of town tomorrow to spend Christmas with my family in Washington, but I couldn't leave before wishing you all the merriest of Christmases or the happiest of Hanukkahs (or whatever other seasonal event you personally celebrate)! 2001 hasn't really turned out like any of us were expecting, I'm sure, between the all-too-many deaths of comics professionals, the Sept. 11th attack, and our own individal losses of various kinds... it's my fondest wish that 2002 be the year we all hoped 2001 was meant to be! Jon From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 21:30:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 21 Dec 2001 05:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 79602 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2001 05:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Dec 2001 05:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13404.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.62) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2001 05:30:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20011221053004.6035.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.37.165] by web13404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:30:04 PST Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:30:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Happy Holidays! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3C227189.B59A515@execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukka! May all Your Holidays be holy as you live the heart of your religion! Om Peace http://graphic-illusion.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctionsfor all of your holiday gifts! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Dec 23 16:03:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 24 Dec 2001 00:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 42654 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2001 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2001 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 00:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18405 invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2001 00:04:22 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 18335 invoked by uid 0); 24 Dec 2001 00:04:21 -0000 Received: from roswell0001.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.1) by zianet.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 00:04:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3C267083.4080801@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:02:11 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: Site Help (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Several years back there used to be this site called (I think) Roulette.com. It wasn't an online gambling site, but rather a really fun place where you clicked on a roulette wheel and you would get taken to some random site, with no idea ahead of time where you were headed. It could be a commercial site; it could be someone's Personal Photos of Grandma site; anything. I *loved* that site, but it disappeared awhile back. Does anyone know of anything similar (except for Jeeves.com eTour site, which is nowhere near as fun, since it's basically all commercial sites)? I really enjoyed just randomly heading out over the Net and coming across really interesting places, places you NEVER would've looked up. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Dec 24 08:26:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 24 Dec 2001 16:26:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 38281 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2001 16:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2001 16:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 16:26:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3185 invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2001 16:06:44 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 3141 invoked by uid 0); 24 Dec 2001 16:06:44 -0000 Received: from roswell0029.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.29) by zianet.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 16:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3C275292.10809@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:06:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Have Yourself A Bucky Little Christmas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker A special thanks to Arthur Lortie for providing us with these! And, as always, a special thanks to Woody for drawing these: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr01.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr02.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr03.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr04.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr05.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr06.bmp -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Dec 24 10:22:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 24 Dec 2001 18:22:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 27794 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2001 18:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2001 18:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 18:22:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 940 invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2001 18:03:40 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 919 invoked by uid 0); 24 Dec 2001 18:03:39 -0000 Received: from roswell0130.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.130) by zianet.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 18:03:39 -0000 Message-ID: <3C276DEF.9090502@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:03:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Have Yourself A Bucky Little Christmas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker *sigh* Yes, I posted the wrong URLs. Sigh. (You ever have one of those weeks?!?) Here're the right ones (50/50 chance, actually, knowing me): http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr1.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr2.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr3.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr4.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr5.bmp http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr6.bmp -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From RJCroxton@aol.com Mon Dec 24 17:37:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 25 Dec 2001 01:37:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19841 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2001 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Dec 2001 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2001 01:37:22 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.4d.168eabd6 (16636); Mon, 24 Dec 2001 20:37:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4d.168eabd6.2959324f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 20:37:19 EST Subject: Re: [Rics_Comics] Re: Have Yourself A Bucky Little Christmas To: Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10552 From: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1099334 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/24/01 12:24:00 PM Central Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > > *sigh* > > Yes, I posted the wrong URLs. Sigh. (You ever have one of those > weeks?!?) Here're the right ones (50/50 chance, actually, knowing me): > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr1.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr01.bmp> > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr2.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr02.bmp> > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr3.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr03.bmp> > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr4.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr04.bmp> > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr5.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr05.bmp> > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr6.bmp < > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/buckyr06.bmp> > > > -- > Lyle Tucker > That worked better, thanks. Richard J. Croxton Ric's Comics Check out my gold/silver/bronze age scans Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From RJCroxton@aol.com Wed Dec 26 13:57:55 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 26 Dec 2001 21:57:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18843 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2001 21:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2001 21:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2001 21:57:50 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.106.aab432f (4462); Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:57:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <106.aab432f.295ba1d7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:57:43 EST Subject: OT? Milton Caniffs Terry & The Pirates Sp Series TPB To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, sa-reviews@mlists.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@onelist.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Untold_Tales@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10552 From: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1099334 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Milton Caniffs Terry & The Pirates Sp Series TPB, 12.95 ACG Sorry for the cross posts. Does anyone know what dates are reprinted? Richard J. Croxton Ric's Comics Check out my gold/silver/bronze age scans Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Dec 26 14:11:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 26 Dec 2001 22:11:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 35857 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2001 22:11:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2001 22:11:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2001 22:11:14 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.41.15d449c2 (4442); Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:11:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41.15d449c2.295ba4fa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:11:06 EST Subject: Re: [SA-GA] OT? Milton Caniffs Terry & The Pirates Sp Series TPB To: SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, sa-reviews@mlists.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Untold_Tales@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 these are rebindings of the "Milton Caniffs Terry & The Pirates" comics that ACG/Avalon did. While it does reprint the first daily story, the reproduction is horrible! these Sp Series are usualy in editions of 300-500 copies. steven rowe (who wonders what rics comics, scanmaniacs, and Untold Tales groups are, but doesn't have the time to join another list anyway) From RJCroxton@aol.com Wed Dec 26 17:00:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 27 Dec 2001 01:00:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 33511 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2001 01:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2001 01:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 01:00:02 -0000 Received: from RJCroxton@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.103.e6f3c2e (3862) for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:59:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <103.e6f3c2e.295bcc8c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:59:56 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: [SA-GA] OT? Milton Caniffs Terry & The Pirates Sp Series TPB To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10552 From: RJCroxton@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1099334 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/26/01 4:14:06 PM Central Standard Time, srowecanoe@aol.com writes: > steven rowe (who wonders what rics comics, scanmaniacs, and Untold Tales > groups are, but doesn't have the time to join another list anyway) > > Ric's Comics is my list that has scans of obscure older comics that I show the members on the photos section. It has a different selection each week. Untold Tales is my other list that has the best writers showcasing their skills by letting the members read some of the best fan fiction around. Scanamaniacs is Lyle Tucker's list that has some great tips on scanning. Richard J. Croxton Ric's Comics Check out my gold/silver/bronze age scans Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@sympatico.ca Sat Dec 29 11:33:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Dec 2001 19:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4872 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2001 19:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Dec 2001 19:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.40) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2001 19:33:08 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.229.168.7]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011229193307.PZTQ496.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:33:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3C2E1A35.67746296@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:32:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan To Whom It May Concern,=20 I am writing this to express my disappointment in reference to my participation in the article on Steve Ditko, "Who Is Steve Ditko?" that appeared in Wizard magazine #124 (Jan =9202). An expanded version of the printed piece can be viewed on the Wizard web-site at... http://news.wizardworld.com/Wizard/WZ124-Ditko1.asp I was originally contacted by Wizard magazine through my unofficial Steve Ditko web-site, "Ditko Looked Up" at... http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html ...and was asked if I would be interested in being interviewed for a scheduled article in the year-end issue of Wizard magazine on Steve Ditko. My working relationship with Steve Ditko and Robin Snyder had recently expired - hence, I felt no impulse to clear such a matter with either - but out of respect for Mr. Ditko, I agreed to participate only under three conditions. One must do so when it comes to an article on Ditko, given a fair number of "journalists" have no interest in doing an article on Ditko=92s actual WORK. They would rather glean information for the purpose of painting Ditko, and his philosophical leanings, as "freakish", "aloof", "mysterious" and any number phrases/words used to create a sensational tale based on hearsay and subjective opinions. I am writing to express my disappointment, as ALL THREE of the conditions were not met by Wizard magazine. The three conditions were as follows: 1) I was to be sent a copy of the final story, to ensure my comments were not being used out of context, for the ends of which I spoke above. Wizard magazine agreed to this condition. 2) Wizard magazine, itself, had asked if they could use excerpts of other persons=92 copyrighted articles from my web-site. I asked Wizard magazine to identify the excerpts, and to send me a list of them, so that I may ask the individuals in question if the excerpts=92 inclusion would be allowable. Excerpts from an article on my web-site by Ron Frantz, former publisher of ACE Comics, were used in Wizard magazine=92s article, but were used without contacting myself, or Mr. Frantz, in advance, as had been previously OFFERED by Wizard magazine. Mr. Frantz has subsequently confirmed he had not been contacted with regards to obtaining permission regards his writings. 3) For my participation, Wizard magazine would forward to me five copies of the magazine. To this date, I have not received a single copy of said issue. In fact, my first knowledge of the article=92s appearance in stores came from a friend=92s e-mail detailing the issue=92s release, my comments inside, as well as Mr. Frantz=92s comments. I purchased the "year-end" issue off the stands at the end of November. What is most bothersome is any injury to Mr. Ditko from the article based on the quotes that I allegedly gave. Since the article=92s release, I did make efforts to receive a copy of the transcript of my comments, but received no word back concerning availability. At the time of the interview, my permission had not been procured, nor had a request been made, to tape the conversation; hence my desire to see a copy of the final story. I have since been advised it is unclear whether notes were taken or, in fact, the conversation was recorded. Since my permission was not granted, nor asked, for the conversation to be taped at the time of the interview, I would suspect the actual text of my comments are to remain a mystery. Having been an admirer of Mr. Ditko=92s WORK for some twenty years, and having an internet presence (if you will) relating to his WORK, I have few qualms about discussing his WORK. I specifically asked for a copy of the finished piece to ensure my comments were not taken out of context, and that I was not misquoted in any way. I specifically made multiple references during my interview with Wizard magazine that I, in no way, had maintained any long-standing personal relationship with Steve Ditko. I wished them to expressly state that any conclusions at which I had arrived regarding Steve Ditko were based solely on what he provided in his WORK. Mr. Ditko has always maintained that his work speaks for him, and that was to be the basis of my conversation with Wizard magazine. Not being able to see a transcript of my comments, I was left to wonder why the expanded web version of the Wizard magazine article contained quotes that differed, in their specific language and context, from the printed version. I feel most concerned that my comments at one point in the printed version painted me as an insider/expert of Mr. Ditko=92s personal relationships, and that I possessed knowledge which would paint Mr. Ditko in a negative light in this regard. I would submit to those reading this letter that my comments in this regard were not only misquoted (as the evidence in the two, differing versions illustrates), but most certainly were taken out of context. The article asks you to believe I knew of Mr. Ditko excommunicating friends and associates in a rather abrupt, or fastidious, fashion. In truth, I had simply retold the already-public-knowledge story about Mr. Ditko=92s refusal to receive any more issues of his unofficial fanzine, DITKOMANIA, from long-time fan, Bill Hall. Mr. Hall had related this story in an issue of DITKOMANIA; hence, it was fairly common knowledge. I would also submit, as I have intimated above, that I made a concerted effort to illustrate to Wizard magazine that any comments made not in direct relation to Mr. Ditko=92s WORK, were simply my opinion of the individual based on his expressed philosophical ideals in his WORK. My respect for Mr. Ditko=92s views on Objectivity does require me to expressly ensure that all comments borne of my own opinion are to be qualified as such. It was therefore extremely disconcerting to witness the final story having no such respect for these views, even though I made them quite clear to Wizard magazine, during our conversation, and with my subsequently ignored conditions for participation.=20 I don=92t present myself as a difficult man with which to deal. As I have said, my admiration for Mr. Ditko=92s WORK renders me willing to discuss his WORK with any and all comers. When weighing the decision to speak to Wizard magazine, I simply believed it would be a laudable idea to bring Mr. Ditko=92s WORK to an audience perhaps unfamiliar with its scope. I am not naive. I know, and have been told, "things like this always happen in journalism," but I would like to believe I subscribe to a higher standard of journalism; one where commitments and conditions are honoured by men who value standards above what may "always happen in journalism." Perhaps the greatest shame is that this episode has left me soured on speaking about Mr. Ditko=92s work to elements of the published press, or unknown individuals, in the future. If one can=92t protect oneself by requesting the seemingly simplest of conditions be met, what recourse does one have but to consider withdrawing from such an arena? For those of you reading this piece on my unofficial Ditko web-site, if you didn=92t know already, you now know there=92s an article in Wizard magazine on Steve Ditko. I would simply ask you to reflect on what I have said above, reflect on Ditko=92s stated values and principles of Objectivity, Rationality, Truth and Facts, and decide for yourself whether or not you will patronize Wizard magazine with your business; in effect, your economical stamp of approval. As Jim Morrison stated, "they=92ve got the guns, but we=92ve got the numbers." Sincerely, Blake Bell ditko37@sympatico.ca=20 * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Dec 29 20:06:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Dec 2001 04:06:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 92790 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 04:06:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2001 04:06:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 04:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 7740 invoked by alias); 30 Dec 2001 04:06:24 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 5761 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2001 04:05:54 -0000 Received: from roswell0049.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.49) by zianet.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 04:05:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2E92A6.4040806@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:05:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: Howzabout Some Prime Ditko (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker The cover and first 7 pages to Charlton's KONGA #7. Some absolutely gorgeous panels here: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/cover.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/01.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/02.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/03.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/04.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/05.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/06.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/07.jpg The next 7 will go up in about a week. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Dec 30 08:18:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Dec 2001 16:18:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 78118 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 16:18:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2001 16:18:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 16:18:43 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.134.7029f81 (24895) for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:18:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <134.7029f81.29609858@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:18:32 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You should forward your letter to CBG and to Comics Journal. I know the Journal doesn't like WIZARD and I expect they've been looking for an opportunity to investigate Wizard's journalistic practices. This is particularly tailor-made for TCJ since Ditko and Gary Groth are friends. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From magilla445@aol.com Sun Dec 30 08:26:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Dec 2001 16:26:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 79305 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 16:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2001 16:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 16:26:32 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.14.201cf663 (4239) for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14.201cf663.29609a32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:26 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 From: magilla445@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2232318 X-Yahoo-Profile: magilla445us In a message dated 12/30/01 8:19:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: << This is particularly tailor-made for TCJ since Ditko and Gary Groth are friends >> They are? That's news to me. Things must have changed since I visited Ditko at his office in the summer of 1987. Ron Frantz From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Dec 30 08:31:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Dec 2001 16:30:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 86408 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 16:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2001 16:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 16:30:55 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.91.15d1717f (24895) for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:30:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <91.15d1717f.29609b31@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:30:41 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/30/01 8:27:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, magilla445@aol.com writes: > They are? That's news to me. Things must have changed since I visited Ditko > 14 years is a long time. People who work for Gary have talked about visiting Ditko with Gary, who of course has never been able to get him to do an intrview. Will Eisner couldn't even get Ditko to agree to be intrviewed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@sympatico.ca Sun Dec 30 08:37:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Dec 2001 16:37:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 70687 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2001 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.52) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 16:37:07 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.229.169.238]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011230163707.FWUM15062.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3C2F426C.C65AD887@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:35:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article References: <91.15d1717f.29609b31@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/30/01 8:27:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > magilla445@aol.com writes: > > > They are? That's news to me. Things must have changed since I > > visited Ditko > > 14 years is a long time. People who work for Gary have talked about > visiting Ditko with Gary, who of course has never been able to get > him to do an intrview. Will Eisner couldn't even get Ditko to agree > to be intrviewed. It should be said that Gary did visit Ditko's studio early in the summer. Gary reported it on the Comics Journal message board, and Gary and I spoke if it at San Diego. That said, Gary doesn't seem to have a problem with poking fun at Ditko, and especially at his Randian philosophy, so it would surprise me if Ditko allowed the relationship to be classified as "friends", but then I'm not privy to the ins-and-outs of that relationship. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html * http://www.snyder-ditko.com & http://www.boredwithtoday.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jan 03 11:35:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 3 Jan 2002 19:35:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 15560 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 19:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2002 19:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 19:35:01 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.a2.1e9aa0c4 (4394) for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:34:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:34:41 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Expressing My Disappointment with Wizard's STEVE DITKO Article To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reading your posts on other sites it appears that the intervewer, not WIZARD, is to blame for this. While he made these promises to you he clearly didn't consider them important enough to follow through on and after finishing the article he just turned it into WIZARD and forgot about it. That's the mark of a rank amateur. I expect he's very surprised by your reaction as he didn't think it was all that big a deal one way or the other.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Jan 04 08:56:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 4 Jan 2002 16:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 37576 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 16:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2002 16:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25023 invoked by alias); 4 Jan 2002 16:51:54 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 24925 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2002 16:51:53 -0000 Received: from roswell0181.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.181) by zianet.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 16:51:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3C35DDA8.5030306@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:51:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, ayers-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spanish MARVEL Cover Scans (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Thanks to a generous and thoroughly personable fellow in Spain that I'm trading scans with, Jose Antonio Mora Fer- nandez, here's what I think is a fascinating look at how kids in his country first saw the Marvel Super-heroes we all came to know and love. You will see many coloring discrepancies - I don't know if they're due simply to cultural preferences or from their artists not receving any color guides. I'd presume the latter, but you will also note that on the DareDevil covers, the old "wrestler" costume replaces the red version way past the timeline. 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Casey Brennan" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=9197195 X-Yahoo-Profile: tcaseybrennan I've just made the hollywood.com Hollywood homeless list! Check this URL.. http://lists.hollywood.com/homeless.html URLs below are fan pages about me or my work. Best, T. Casey Brennan ===== http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Conspiracy_theories/Brennan--Conjurella/Brennan.html http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/conspire.html#brennan http://www.saunalahti.fi/~sidi/SYNOs/G/GoldenSDisc.html http://www.davestevens.com/html/ds_harri2.html http://tcasey.inri.net http://www.wynd.org/tcb.html http://www.p3n.org/pn080601.shtml http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/ltr-clinton.html http://lists.hollywood.com/homeless.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From maryellen568@webtv.net Sat Jan 05 15:35:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 5 Jan 2002 23:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 50393 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2002 23:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2002 23:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.118) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 23:35:28 -0000 Received: from storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.107]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BF1CAD for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id PAA20314; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:35:27 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAqjPP918cj1EuCpd5snHB95QONowCFQCSC4XnnV2uRV6W/fseOoFe3ZSQKA== Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:35:27 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hollywood Homeless List Message-ID: <29357-3C378DBF-2891@storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "T. Casey Brennan" 's message of Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:37:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: Inline MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=79782758 X-Yahoo-Profile: bigguy5710310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I Saw T.Casey's name On the hollywood homeless list, and i was real surprized [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Sat Jan 05 22:48:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 6 Jan 2002 06:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 38400 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 06:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2002 06:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.64) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 06:47:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20020106064755.49577.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.121.37.213] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 22:47:55 PST Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:47:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hollywood Homeless List To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20020105213821.44559.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert G X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this mean you currently are homeless? Living in a van and having a place to swim and take showers gets old after a year. No car or van or friends place to crash is probably a lot worse. (Actually I've experienced both). I hate rent a lot. (That is why I lived in my first two bookstores too...well one was a comic store and that was just the first and last year (out of 10). Living in your store means you just pay rent once. I hear that is how some people in Europe live.) Dylan was right. We have to make allegences. "You've got to serve someone..." Being homeless where the weather is bad is a serious drag...one can die from exposure. So I hope you are not homeless. If you are, never give up! "T. Casey Brennan" wrote: --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Jan 06 07:13:23 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 6 Jan 2002 15:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 97800 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 15:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2002 15:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3932 invoked by alias); 6 Jan 2002 15:14:17 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 3921 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 15:14:16 -0000 Received: from roswell0136.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.136) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 15:14:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3C3869CF.2010905@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 08:14:23 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: Looking for Early Steranko Piece Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Does anyone have any recollections of a self-printed Steranko zine where he featured some drawings of a '50s biker that he did as a teenager? -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Jan 06 08:29:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 6 Jan 2002 16:29:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 40344 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 16:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2002 16:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:29:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6195 invoked by alias); 6 Jan 2002 16:30:36 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 6141 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2002 16:30:35 -0000 Received: from roswell0136.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.136) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 16:30:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3C387BA0.2050301@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 09:30:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.coms, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: Any Japanese Artist Experts Out There (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker I'm trying to ID a print that was in my mother's collection: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/sadahide.jpg I believe it might be the work of Utagawa Sadahide, but Japanese artists certainly aren't my area of expertise. If anyone has any info they think can shed some light on this piece, I'd appreciate them contacting me - thanks! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sun Jan 06 10:24:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 6 Jan 2002 18:24:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 35062 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 18:24:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2002 18:24:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 18:24:12 -0000 Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.50.47f8bfb (4418) for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:24:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50.47f8bfb.2969f041@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:24:01 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Looking for Early Steranko Piece To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995 X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/6/02 10:14:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > Does anyone have any recollections of a self-printed Steranko zine > where he featured some drawings of a '50s biker that he did as a > teenager? > --------------------- Lyle, I have a copy of that _somewhere_, it may take quite a while but I'd be glad to scan it for you once I find it. --steve cohen Comic Book Legal Defense Fund [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Jan 07 05:58:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 7 Jan 2002 13:58:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 96758 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 13:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2002 13:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 13:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21492 invoked by alias); 7 Jan 2002 13:59:17 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 21412 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 13:59:17 -0000 Received: from roswell0013.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.13) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 13:59:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3C39A99C.1020206@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 06:58:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.comr, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: Calling All Foot Fetishests! (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Some fun 'n' games from Mr. Love's and Mr. Van Hise's seminal Rocket's Blast Comic Collector: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC102_BootEmOut!.jpg See how many you can name! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Jan 07 06:11:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 7 Jan 2002 14:11:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 52339 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 14:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2002 14:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:11:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18285 invoked by alias); 7 Jan 2002 14:12:28 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 18210 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2002 14:12:27 -0000 Received: from roswell0013.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.13) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:12:27 -0000 Message-ID: <3C39ACB7.80606@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 07:12:07 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.comt, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines Subject: A Few More Isolated Gems (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker from Mr. Love's and Mr. Van Hise's seminal Rocket's Blast Comic Collector: ACK! Barry Windsor Smith sells out! http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC101_BWS.jpg What a *great* idea this was! Would love to run across these some- time (especially now that I'm getting an 11 x 17 scanner!) http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC99_PosterSized.jpg And, since science has now conclusively proven that one can never get enough Wood: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton1.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton2.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton3.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton4.jpg Finally, having nothing to do with RBCC, but serving as a fine summation of the joys of the Holiday Season, courtesy of James and Mercedes Hutchison (early 20th century Floridian folk artists) come this wonderfully sentimental hooked rug: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Cutting_A_Rug.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From tarnknight69@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 06:54:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tarnknight69@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 7 Jan 2002 14:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 76939 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 14:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2002 14:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.59) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 14:54:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20020107145407.5127.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.163.246.6] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 06:54:07 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:54:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] A Few More Isolated Gems (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3C39ACB7.80606@zianet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: nick alenikov X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59418117 X-Yahoo-Profile: tarnknight69 sorry, that is not barry w smith, it is a semi decent ripoff of barry's style, but it is not him.... --- lyletucker wrote: > from Mr. Love's and Mr. Van Hise's seminal Rocket's > Blast > Comic Collector: > > ACK! Barry Windsor Smith sells out! > > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC101_BWS.jpg > > What a *great* idea this was! Would love to run > across these some- > time (especially now that I'm getting an 11 x 17 > scanner!) > > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC99_PosterSized.jpg > > And, since science has now conclusively proven that > one can > never get enough Wood: > > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton1.jpg > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton2.jpg > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton3.jpg > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/RBCC111_Kenton4.jpg > > Finally, having nothing to do with RBCC, but serving > as a fine > summation of the joys of the Holiday Season, > courtesy of > James and Mercedes Hutchison (early 20th century > Floridian > folk artists) come this wonderfully sentimental > hooked rug: > > > http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Cutting_A_Rug.jpg > > > -- > Lyle Tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's > FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jan 10 08:47:38 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 10 Jan 2002 16:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26832 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 16:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2002 16:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 16:47:27 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.152.70639e6 (25510) for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:47:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <152.70639e6.296f1f95@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:47:17 EST Subject: Looking for a fanzine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for a copy of a late 60s comics 'zine titled Marvel Main #4. Even a photocopy of it would be fine. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 00:48:31 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 11 Jan 2002 08:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 57201 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2002 08:48:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2002 08:48:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.59) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2002 08:48:18 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.152] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2002 08:48:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:48:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Should I call this my electronic fanzine page two Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 607 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "ninthnebula10" X-Originating-IP: 165.121.33.18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/graphic-illusion-2051.htm It contains my 3 page comic strip. An article or two I wrote. Tons of my comics and suff for sale. And on page one: http://graphic-illusion.com I have my Marvel Article, my Art Gallery and more. This week I've tried to organize all my comics, but failed. So I think I'll type a fanzine HAVE and a fanzine for sale list tomorrow. I do have a Ditko comic on ebay too. graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Willing to share scans I make. Once out there -- of a comic or fanzine cover feel free to copy and keep too. Best, Rob Gustaveson From vabmags2@hotmail.com Sun Jan 13 21:02:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32305 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 05:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2002 05:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 05:01:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: vabmags2@hotmail.com Received: from [216.115.96.118] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2002 04:48:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 14 Jan 2002 05:01:51 -0000 X-Sender: vabmags2@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 11 Jan 2002 12:23:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6379 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2002 12:23:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2002 12:23:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.20.19) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2002 12:23:04 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:23:04 -0800 To: References: Subject: Re: [cbzines] Should I call this my electronic fanzine page two Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:22:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2002 12:23:04.0481 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7F1E910:01C19A9A] From: "VABMags" X-Originating-IP: [24.49.74.171] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89218119 X-Yahoo-Profile: bonavoglia2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, The Plasm cards were not drawn by Steve Ditko. They are the work of Stray Bullets' David Lapham. Cheers, Vince Bonavoglia ----- Original Message ----- From: ninthnebula10 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:48 AM Subject: [cbzines] Should I call this my electronic fanzine page two http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/graphic-illusion-2051.htm It contains my 3 page comic strip. An article or two I wrote. Tons of my comics and suff for sale. And on page one: http://graphic-illusion.com I have my Marvel Article, my Art Gallery and more. This week I've tried to organize all my comics, but failed. So I think I'll type a fanzine HAVE and a fanzine for sale list tomorrow. I do have a Ditko comic on ebay too. graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Willing to share scans I make. Once out there -- of a comic or fanzine cover feel free to copy and keep too. Best, Rob Gustaveson Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Jan 14 17:27:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 15 Jan 2002 01:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 86359 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2002 01:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2002 01:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 01:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 24285 invoked by alias); 15 Jan 2002 01:29:01 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 24226 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jan 2002 01:29:01 -0000 Received: from roswell0039.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.39) by zianet.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 01:29:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3C4385E7.7030504@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:29:11 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, Rics_Comics@yahoogroups.com, scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, DCHistory , fanzines Subject: List Hiatus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Gonna be off the lists for a coupla weeks or so - give me a holler at my personal addy if you need me for anything. Ta! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mon Jan 21 21:59:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97793 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 05:59:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2002 05:59:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.57) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 05:59:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: notify@yahoogroups.com Received: from [216.115.96.181] by n7.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2002 05:59:01 -0000 Date: 22 Jan 2002 05:58:57 -0000 Message-ID: <1011679137.4891.13455.w9@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: files X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines group. File : /Fanzine.doc Uploaded by : fanzinelover Description : Updated Fanzine List Help File. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/Fanzine.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, fanzinelover From vogden@earthlink.net Mon Jan 21 22:19:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: vogden@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 22 Jan 2002 06:19:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 59581 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 06:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2002 06:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.79) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 06:19:23 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.146] by n29.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2002 06:19:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:19:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Updated Fanzine List in the Files Section Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1321 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fanzinelover" X-Originating-IP: 209.179.250.243 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54307484 X-Yahoo-Profile: fanzinelover Hi Everyone, I have updated the Fanzine List and uploaded it to the Files Section. This Fanzine List is a work-in-progress, attempting to index every comics fanzine. I have a LOT of work left to do on it, but it seemed like a good time to provide what I have accomplished so far. I have made many corrections and additions. If something you see stands out as incorrect, let me know! It is very slow going updating this monster, and I can only do one thing at a time, but I need any and all input anyone can provide. The main updates since September have come from fanzines sold on eBay, John McGeehan's House Of Info (I'm through issue #22 at this point), information on articles in fanzines taken from Panelologist V1#3, input from some fanzine editors, and some other miscellaneous sources. I am going through John's House Of Info, then I plan on pulling data from George, The Comic Reader, RBCC and my own personal collection. It all takes a LOT of time. There's a lot of question marks and holes in this index! Even if you can clear up one question, that will be a great help! Especially if there is information listed that is wrong that you can correct! Thanks in advance, and enjoy looking through the index. I hope you find the fanzine you're looking for! Steve Ogden fanzinelover From CArchivist@aol.com Mon Jan 21 22:49:35 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 22 Jan 2002 06:49:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 70389 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2002 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.25.) id r.135.81b0a21 (24898) for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:49:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <135.81b0a21.297e6568@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:49:12 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Updated Fanzine List in the Files Section To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 01/22/2002 01:20:42 AM, vogden@earthlink.net writes: << Thanks in advance, and enjoy looking through the index. I hope you find the fanzine you're looking for! Steve Ogden fanzinelover >> I would consider you talking with Bill Schelly at some point. His books on fanzine history are terrific and I believe he also has his own reference fanzine material. my best -Ray From vogden@earthlink.net Mon Jan 21 23:15:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: vogden@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 22 Jan 2002 07:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 90629 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 07:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2002 07:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.74) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 07:15:06 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.123] by n24.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2002 07:15:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:15:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Updated Fanzine List in the Files Section Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <135.81b0a21.297e6568@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 602 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fanzinelover" X-Originating-IP: 209.179.250.243 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54307484 X-Yahoo-Profile: fanzinelover --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., CArchivist@a... wrote: > > I would consider you talking with Bill Schelly at some point. His >books on fanzine history are terrific and I believe he also has his >own reference fanzine material. > > my best > -Ray Hi Ray, I have talked to Mr Schelly, but mainly about the fanzines he has published. I have used all of his fanzine history books as reference material. Very, very great books! I'm looking forward to his new Comic Fandom Reader, especially the fanzine index part. I will talk to him again, once I get a little further along... - Steve Ogden From CArchivist@aol.com Mon Jan 21 23:21:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 22 Jan 2002 07:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 33584 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 07:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2002 07:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 07:20:54 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.25.) id r.188.2256466 (24898) for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:20:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <188.2256466.297e6ccc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:20:44 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Updated Fanzine List in the Files Section To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 01/22/2002 02:16:32 AM, vogden@earthlink.net writes: << I would consider you talking with Bill Schelly at some point. His >books on fanzine history are terrific and I believe he also has his >own reference fanzine material. > > my best > -Ray Hi Ray, I have talked to Mr Schelly, but mainly about the fanzines he has published. I have used all of his fanzine history books as reference material. Very, very great books! I'm looking forward to his new Comic Fandom Reader, especially the fanzine index part. I will talk to him again, once I get a little further along... - Steve Ogden >> Great, I look forward to seeing it when done! my best -Ray From vogden@earthlink.net Wed Jan 23 11:40:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: vogden@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 23 Jan 2002 19:39:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 47848 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2002 19:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jan 2002 19:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.74) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2002 19:39:52 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.169] by n24.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2002 19:39:52 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:39:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Updated Fanzine List in the Files Section Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <188.2256466.297e6ccc@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 603 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fanzinelover" X-Originating-IP: 192.216.69.62 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54307484 X-Yahoo-Profile: fanzinelover --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., CArchivist@a... wrote: > Great, I look forward to seeing it when done! > my best > -Ray Hi Ray, and everyone, Hate to disappoint anyone, but this index will never actually ever be "done". There are too many bits of information that just will never be known. The best we can expect is to have most of the errors found and removed. So I would suggest taking a look at the index as it stands now and enjoy it as best as possible! If you find an error, bring it up so it can be fixed. I'll update this two or three time a year, as corrections warrant. - Steve Ogden From rmaheras@aol.com Fri Jan 25 17:59:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61404 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2002 01:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2002 01:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 01:59:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: rmaheras@aol.com Received: from [216.115.96.88] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2002 01:44:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Jan 2002 01:59:03 -0000 X-Sender: rmaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 25 Jan 2002 15:44:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 52048 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 15:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2002 15:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.72) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 15:44:10 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.35] by n22.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2002 15:44:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:44:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Buyer's Guide index help Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1184 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "maelstrom1974" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.192.151 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Hi everyone! I just joined this group on the recommendation of a friend. I've been involved with comic book fanzines and other related fan activities since the early 1970s. I write, pencil, ink and letter new material when I have the time, and I publish my fanzine Maelstrom on an erratic basis. The first issue was published in 1974, and my last issue, #7, was published in 1999. I am currently working on issue #8, which will hopefully be ready by this summer's convention season. For Maelstrom #8, I'll be publishing an index of the first 250 issues of The Buyer's Guide For Comic Fandom. Currently, I have 243 issues indexed, but need some holes filled to finish the index off. That's where I'm hoping some of you may be able to help. If any of you have issues #79, 149, 151, 191, 192, 241 or 242, please do not hesitate to contact me offline. I'll let you know what information I need from each issue. Ironically, I drew the covers for two of those issues (#149 and 150), but only saved the cover portion over the years and not the guts. That's it to start! Glad to be part of the group, and if I can be of help to any of you, just let me know. Russ Maheras From CArchivist@aol.com Fri Jan 25 20:03:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 26 Jan 2002 04:03:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 92625 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2002 04:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2002 04:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 04:03:27 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id r.4b.17591472 (25510) for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:03:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4b.17591472.2983848a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:03:22 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Buyer's Guide index help To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 29 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 01/25/2002 09:40:22 PM, rmaheras@aol.com writes: << Hi everyone! I just joined this group on the recommendation of a friend. I've been involved with comic book fanzines and other related fan activities since the early 1970s. I write, pencil, ink and letter new material when I have the time, and I publish my fanzine Maelstrom on an erratic basis. The first issue was published in 1974, and my last issue, #7, was published in 1999. I am currently working on issue #8, which will hopefully be ready by this summer's convention season. For Maelstrom #8, I'll be publishing an index of the first 250 issues of The Buyer's Guide For Comic Fandom. Currently, I have 243 issues indexed, but need some holes filled to finish the index off. That's where I'm hoping some of you may be able to help. If any of you have issues #79, 149, 151, 191, 192, 241 or 242, please do not hesitate to contact me offline. I'll let you know what information I need from each issue. Ironically, I drew the covers for two of those issues (#149 and 150), but only saved the cover portion over the years and not the guts. That's it to start! Glad to be part of the group, and if I can be of help to any of you, just let me know. Russ Maheras >> Russ, Think about re-joining the GCD list too? You may fine a couple crazies there too who may have the CBG issues you may need. Did you ever complete your listing of ACD circulation data? I was fascinated by the work you posted a few years ago of the data you had put together. my best -Ray From rmaheras@aol.com Sat Jan 26 09:00:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 33669 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2002 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2002 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 17:00:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [216.115.96.116] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2002 16:45:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Jan 2002 17:00:35 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 26 Jan 2002 07:25:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 90622 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2002 07:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2002 07:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 07:25:58 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id r.5f.2167723e (30952) for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:25:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5f.2167723e.2983b401@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:25:53 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Buyer's Guide index help To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/25/2002 10:13:13 PM Central Standard Time, CArchivist@aol.com writes: > Think about re-joining the GCD list too? You may fine a couple crazies there > too who may have the CBG issues you may need. Did you ever complete your > listing of ACD circulation data? I was fascinated by the work you posted a > few years ago of the data you had put together.my best Thanks, Ray! That Audit Bureau of Circulations comic book and pulp magazine circulation data I partially transcribed is literally priceless. I haven't been able to go back to ABC yet, but one of these days I hope to make a day of it and get the late 1940s and all the 1950s data as well. I haven't rejoined GCD yet, but that's a good idea! Russ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From maryellen568@webtv.net Sat Jan 26 18:02:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: MaryEllen568@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 27 Jan 2002 02:01:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 981 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2002 02:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Jan 2002 02:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2002 02:01:45 -0000 Received: from storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.87]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8E0B46 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id SAA29627; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:01:41 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQmNujLvhneGdnOkUrPbSCSw/rlAQIVAJvv+JdjhuiWtqVCFpVLxfkDinpd Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 21:01:41 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Buyer's Guide index help Message-ID: <27067-3C535F85-1441@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "maelstrom1974" 's message of Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:44:05 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: MaryEllen568@webtv.net (MaryEllen Trembone) From: maryellen568@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=79782758 X-Yahoo-Profile: bigguy5710310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi,russ ,welcome to our group,from allen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From comicplace@earthlink.net Tue Jan 29 09:30:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: comicplace@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Jan 2002 17:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 63899 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 17:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2002 17:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 17:29:59 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.144] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2002 17:14:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:29:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comic collection and more for sale Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 381 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "eye4comics" X-Originating-IP: 199.59.40.16 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=11739907 X-Yahoo-Profile: eye4comics Just a reminder that I have placed several Justice League of America issues for sale in my storefront. Among other titles: Fantastic Four, Spectre, Batman, Superman and much more including fanzines from the G.B. Love estate auction! Please stop by Peachy Boy Comics and Collectibles at: http://www.auctionworks.com/aws/peachyboy Thanks and be sure to tell all your friends. From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Jan 29 10:53:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Jan 2002 18:53:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 40054 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 18:53:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2002 18:53:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 18:53:11 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id r.17f.2cfba76 (24897) for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17f.2cfba76.2988498e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:53:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comic collection and more for sale To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/02 9:31:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, comicplace@earthlink.net writes: > Please stop by Peachy Boy Comics and Collectibles at: > > This URL doesn't work.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tazwert@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 12:54:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 96682 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n33.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.83) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.143] by n33.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2002 20:54:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:54:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comic collection and more for sale Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <17f.2cfba76.2988498e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 407 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tazwert" X-Originating-IP: 12.104.244.37 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > In a message dated 1/29/02 9:31:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, > comicplace@e... writes: > > > > Please stop by Peachy Boy Comics and Collectibles at: > > > > > > This URL doesn't work.--JVH > > Try this URL: http://www.auctionworks.com/awstore/peachyboy I also have a store (smaller right now) http://www.auctionworks.com/awstore/tazwert From comicplace@earthlink.net Wed Jan 30 08:40:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: comicplace@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Jan 2002 16:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 40149 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 16:40:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2002 16:40:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.60) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 16:40:35 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.164] by n10.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2002 16:40:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:40:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Storefront Update for Wednesday Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 582 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "eye4comics" X-Originating-IP: 199.59.40.16 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=11739907 X-Yahoo-Profile: eye4comics Good day all, Just a reminder that I have updated the storefront: =95 Fantastic Four =95=A0Batman =95 Superman =95 Green Lantern =95 Flash =95 Starman =95 Justice League =95 EC Hardbound books =95 Original art =95=A0Fanzines =95 Dozens of miscellaneous DC and Marvel titles =95...and more! All items in the store have a scanned image and a description.=20 Whether a comic costs 25 cents or 25 dollars it has a scan and=20 a description. Thanks for your interest and hope to hear from you soon. Mark Gordon Peachy Boy Comics and Collectibles http://www.auctionworks.com/aws/peachyboy From comicplace@earthlink.net Wed Jan 30 11:35:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: comicplace@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Jan 2002 19:35:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 13141 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 19:35:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2002 19:35:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.58) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 19:35:54 -0000 Received: from [216.115.97.81] by n8.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2002 19:35:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:35:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: ** URL correction ** Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 70 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "eye4comics" X-Originating-IP: 199.59.40.16 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=11739907 X-Yahoo-Profile: eye4comics My bad! The storefront is at: www.auctionworks.com/awstore/peachyboy From comicplace@earthlink.net Thu Jan 31 07:12:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: comicplace@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 31 Jan 2002 15:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 90808 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2002 15:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2002 15:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.65) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2002 15:12:09 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.91] by n15.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2002 15:11:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:12:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Storefront Update for Thursday Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 520 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "eye4comics" X-Originating-IP: 199.59.40.16 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=11739907 X-Yahoo-Profile: eye4comics Good Day! Just a reminder that I placed dozens more comics on the shelves last night. Among other miscellaneous titles, you have mini-runs of Justice League, Justice League International, Justice League America and Justice League of America. All items in the store have viewable, legible scans with descriptions. Most, if not all the comics are under $1.00 with shipping a modest $1.50. Fill in those holes in your collection and have fun looking through the store! Mark www.auctionworks.com/awstore/peachyboy From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed Feb 13 20:25:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 14 Feb 2002 04:25:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 99492 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 04:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2002 04:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.63) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 04:25:02 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.178] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2002 04:07:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 04:25:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Alan Barbour, Passes... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1482 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jimburns1999" X-Originating-IP: 209.240.222.130 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 Sadly, Alan Barbour passed on, last night. Just among some of Alan's many credits, as a writer, and publisher, were what seemed like, and may well have been!, HUNDREDS of those terrific movie magazines/prozines that were often hawked in the back of CASTLE OF FRANKENSTEIN, THE MONSTER TIMES and many other places; things like SCREEN FACTS, among others... Alan also did those terrifically fun 16 page photo books, each devoted to a different serial, plus the much larger zines devoted to Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff, Errol Flynn, Serial Movie Ads... Ultimately, Alan wrote several "legitimate" books, and was a key member in Manhattan movie and serial fandom, from the 1960s on... If memory serves, Alan also probably contributed to some of Jim Warren's movie mags. Alan actually produced, and/or codirected a filmed, serials "homage", which, I think, was called CAPTAIN CELLULOID, (costarring Alan's talented wife, New York actress Jean Barbour),and which, to this day, is carried by the popular cult movie vendor, Sinister Cinema... And, of course, these were just SOME of Alan's accomplishments. The memorial info, follows... Jim Burns Monday, February 18th Visitation at 4pm / Memorial Service at 5pm Schwartz Brothers Funeral Home 114-03 Queens Boulevard (nearest intersection is 76th Road) Forest Hills, NY 718-263-7600 (Funeral Home) Cards of condolence may be sent to: Mrs. Alan Barbour (Jean Barbour) 123-40 83rd Avenue Kew Gardens, NY 11415 From jmain44@yahoo.com Thu Feb 14 10:16:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 14 Feb 2002 18:16:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 66456 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 18:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2002 18:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.71) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 18:16:52 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.167] by n21.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2002 18:02:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:16:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Alan Barbour, Passes... Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1902 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jmain44" X-Originating-IP: 64.12.102.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70875729 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 ---What a tremendous loss! I have many of Alan's serial related publications still and they are always a joy to read. Alan was one of my inspirations when I decided to publish my serial/pulp/classic film fanzine,"Thrills and Chills" He'll certainly be missed. Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., "jimburns1999" wrote: > Sadly, Alan Barbour passed on, last night. > > Just among some of Alan's many credits, as a writer, and publisher, were what seemed like, and may well have been!, HUNDREDS of those terrific movie magazines/prozines that were often hawked in the back of CASTLE OF FRANKENSTEIN, THE MONSTER TIMES and many other places; things like SCREEN FACTS, among others... > > Alan also did those terrifically fun 16 page photo books, each devoted to a different serial, plus the much larger zines devoted to > Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff, Errol Flynn, Serial Movie Ads... > > Ultimately, Alan wrote several "legitimate" books, and was a key member in Manhattan movie and serial fandom, from the 1960s on... > > If memory serves, Alan also probably contributed to some of Jim Warren's movie mags. > > Alan actually produced, and/or codirected a filmed, serials "homage", which, I think, was called CAPTAIN CELLULOID, (costarring Alan's talented wife, New York actress Jean Barbour),and which, to this day, is carried by the popular cult movie vendor, Sinister Cinema... > > And, of course, these were just SOME of Alan's accomplishments. > > The memorial info, follows... > > Jim Burns > > > > Monday, February 18th > Visitation at 4pm / Memorial Service at 5pm Schwartz Brothers Funeral Home > 114-03 Queens Boulevard (nearest intersection is 76th Road) Forest Hills, NY > 718-263-7600 (Funeral Home) > > > Cards of condolence may be sent to: > > > Mrs. Alan Barbour (Jean Barbour) > 123-40 83rd Avenue > Kew Gardens, NY 11415 From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 12:59:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 18 Feb 2002 20:59:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 26596 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 20:59:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2002 20:59:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11108.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.131.155) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 20:59:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20020218205955.72554.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.38.6.127] by web11108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:59:55 PST Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:59:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Robert Morningstar on Templar/Al-Quaida link! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <004b01c1b8a7$d8ac3c20$3e500942@c2j1v8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=9197195 X-Yahoo-Profile: tcaseybrennan JFK researcher Robert Morningstar believes there may be some linkage between a Czech Templar Lodge which just attacked me, and Al-Qaida...see: http://cybertempli.mysteria.cz/TCBrennanbestie.htm For an account of more cordial relations between me and the Czechs, go to the British T. Casey Brennan fan page at: http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html ...and click on the "Re: Smoking" link, which is a transcript of an article about me from a magazine in Communist Prague... http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/article001.html It seems like only yesterday the Czechs were cheering me. Now they're denouncing me, and according to Morningstar, have teemed up with Al-Quaida to do it! Check for more URLs about me or my work below. -- T. Casey Brennan --- "Robert D. Morningstar" wrote: > Dear TCB: > > Is there any way to get a translation of this? It > may be more important > than you think. Some Czechs are deeply involved in > Al-Qaida. This > religion of theirs has merged with the al-queda > belief system (Cthulhu > Mythos). > Don't forget: Mohammed Atta met with Iraqis and > others in Czechoslovakia > before he flew to the states for his date with the > WTC. > > Regards, > > Robert > ===== http://people.cornell.edu/pages/bar13/tacobell http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/archives/lsn20010330132156.html http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Conspiracy_theories/Brennan--Conjurella/Brennan.html http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano http://heart7.net/mcf/victm-hm.htm#Brennan http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/conspire.html#brennan http://cybertempli.mysteria.cz/TCBrennanbestie.htm http://tcasey.inri.net http://www.wynd.org/tcb.html http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm http://www.geocities.com/satanicreds/ltr-clinton.html http://geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com From alortie@tmlp.com Thu Feb 28 07:22:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 28 Feb 2002 15:22:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 59435 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2002 15:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2002 15:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2002 15:22:13 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 [207.86.249.80] by mail.tmlp.com (SMTPD32-7.04) id AB23E100134; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:22:11 -0500 Message-ID: <004401c1c06b$41a5c0a0$50f956cf@tmlp.com> To: Subject: Star-Studded Comics #6 [1965] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:18:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Arthur Lortie" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3626745 X-Yahoo-Profile: neversurrender8 For those of you cataloging / buying, etc. I have Star-Studded Comics #6 [1965] up on eBay [ending today] as item 1078108761 If anyone needs the page counts for a database [all the stories are listed in the description], let me know. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 "If you grew up anywhere in Texas, you knew at an early age they was selling somethin' out there -- and it wasn't poultry!" -- Deputy Fred in Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, The (1982) From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Feb 28 17:00:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31748 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Mar 2002 01:00:13 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 28 Feb 2002 23:42:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15995 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2002 23:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2002 23:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2002 23:42:39 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.199.305b741 (15900) for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web31.aolmail.aol.com (web31.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.7]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.35) with ESMTP id MAILINID93-0228184232; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:42:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:42:31 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Star-Studded Comics #6 [1965] To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <199.305b741.29b01a68@aol.com> From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 1 Mar 2002 01:00:13 -0000 >>If anyone needs the page counts for a database [all the stories are listed in the description], let me know.<< I did an index of all the Star-Studded issues in my fanzine, Maelstrom #5 (1989). If anyone needs this info, let me know. Russ Maheras From jmain44@yahoo.com Fri Mar 01 04:15:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 1 Mar 2002 12:15:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 17363 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2002 12:15:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2002 12:15:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.75) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2002 12:15:32 -0000 Received: from [216.115.96.168] by n25.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2002 12:13:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 12:15:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Star-Studded Comics #6 [1965] Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199.305b741.29b01a68@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 574 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jmain44" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.200.38 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70875729 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Hey Russ-Long time no hear from. Hope you're doing well, old man. Let me know if you're interested in doing any kind of historical fanzine articles for any of my fanzines I currently publish. You can contact me at jmain44@aol.com... See ya--- Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., rmaheras@a... wrote: > >>If anyone needs the page counts for a database [all the stories are listed in the description], let me know.<< > > I did an index of all the Star-Studded issues in my fanzine, Maelstrom #5 (1989). 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Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Mar 06 22:12:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 7 Mar 2002 06:12:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 90687 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 16:22:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2002 16:22:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2002 16:22:54 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.78.231094b2 (3703) for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:22:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78.231094b2.29b79c59@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:22:49 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG and Mile High To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/6/02 1:35:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, pjstef@yahoo.com writes: > I saw in the preview of CBG #1479 that Chuck Rozanski > will do a continued background piece on Edgar Church > and the Mile High collection. > > Does anybody know if this would be the first > installment? Where are the previous? > This has been running for several issues already.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From wardo@mindspring.com Sun Mar 31 12:42:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: wardo@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 31 Mar 2002 20:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 45817 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2002 20:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2002 20:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2002 20:42:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.153] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2002 20:42:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:42:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hi from Ward Batty Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3979 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "wobatty" X-Originating-IP: 66.32.78.238 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3417891 X-Yahoo-Profile: wobatty Posted an intro hen I first joined that never appeared. I just joined Ultrazine and thought that intro would serve here as well. Hi, everyone. Here's what I'm up to since my fanzine days. Basically I've mostly been doing Comic Shop News all these years since my fanzine days. I should be finishing up #774 at this moment, in fact. They just moved our deadline as Diamond's pick-up day has been moved up to Wednesdays from Fridays, so after years of doing the paper on Sunday-Tuesday I now do it Friday-Sunday (fascinating, eh?). Cliff Biggers does most of the writing and I do the lay-outs, deal with the advertisers and distributors and handle all the business stuff. We'll be celebrating our 15th anniversary in July. I would have never started CSN with Cliff if my comic book, Boffo Laffs kept selling. Orders started great, 18,000 for the first issue with the hologram on the cover, but fell to 11,000 and dwindled steadily from there. #5, the last issue sold 7,000 I think and orders for #6 were more like 5,500 which was below the point that Charlie Williams and I felt it was worth our while to continue it. I think we were getting $25 or $30 a page from CBG and we wanted to get that for the comic book. I mention all this because I know that most publishers would kill for numbers like that today. And, of course, my sales were nothing. A lot of TMNT knock-off books were selling 40,000. Amazing. I know of many comics, many in full color, that struggle to get and stay above 4 to 5,000 in sales. I really have no idea how folks do it, frankly. Even working for free, how do you make a color comic work at that level? Has computers made color and color separations enough cheaper that you can make it work? Do fanzines still exist, or have they been replaced by the internet? Is most of the activity happening with online comics, or is print still the medium? As comics became my job it largely quit being my hobby. Cliff still keeps up with everything, but since I quit working at our store 10 years ago and especially since I sold Cliff my interest in the store (it was over an hour away from my house) I really don't follow most comics other than a few that are sent to me (Bongo and stuff from Top Shelf Press, mostly). So I'm horribly out of the loop. I kept doing some Trufan Adventures stuff for CBG for only a year or two after CSN started. I did a handful of comics called "Inch Comix" along the bottom inch of CSN a few months back, but kinda ran out of ideas. Hard to do too much of that stuff when you aren't reading the comics, I guess. Plus I was drawing it and I never really enjoyed doing the art. Too much work, writing is so much easier, sez I. As my interest in comics faded, I followed the Grateful Dead for a few years in the early 90s and Phish for a few years after that. I got divorced and remarried in 93/94 and had a son who just turned 7 and loves Spider-Man and Sonic the Hedgehog (you gotta let them go their own way -- me, I don't see it). I'm currently into board gaming, especially the games coming out of Germany. Plus I waste my time with a lot of foolishness on the web, fantasy baseball, diplomacy, all kinds of stuff that working at home allows me to waste time on. I've periodically desired to do some writing again. I sent Wildstorm a proposal that they politely rejected 2-3 years back that I still think has potential but needs more work. Looking forward to hearing what everyone is up to. Certainly my fanzine stuff led pretty directly to my career doing CSN which is a great job, I really can't complain at all. Having a great partner in Cliff is a big part of that. Charlie Williams was also great to work with. I must admit I haven't spoken to Charlie in maybe 10 years. Not that we had any sort of falling out, but we both are the sort that don't tend to call and chat, and I haven't tracked him down online. But I should call and see how he is doing. -- Ward From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Apr 01 16:17:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 2 Apr 2002 00:17:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7909 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2002 00:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2002 00:17:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2002 00:17:41 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 2.166.b6eb6d7 (4250) for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:17:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <166.b6eb6d7.29da529e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:17:34 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hi from Ward Batty To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/31/2002 3:43:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, wardo@mindspring.com writes: > Hi, everyone. Here's what I'm up to since my fanzine days. > Hi Ward! For the benefit of the young folks, do you want to tell them what fanzines you used to do? As to modern fanzines, I bought one last year - about Charlton comics! So there are some out there. (the modern aspect is that i used paypal to pay for it!) Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mpotter@aaahawk.com Mon Apr 01 20:13:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mpotter@aaahawk.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 2 Apr 2002 04:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 59723 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2002 04:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2002 04:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.aaahawk.com) (12.155.222.1) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2002 04:13:55 -0000 Received: from aaahawk.com (unverified [206.149.1.204]) by ns1.aaahawk.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.194) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:06:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3CA93133.B1B43FC3@aaahawk.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 21:18:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hi from Ward Batty References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: mark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93740463 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrandal_2000 I remember reading that your Boffo Laffs #1 was the first comic book ever to contain a holograph on the cover... At the time, how did you decide on doing something like that? mark From wardo@mindspring.com Tue Apr 02 22:25:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: wardo@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 3 Apr 2002 06:25:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 84415 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 06:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2002 06:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2002 06:25:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2002 06:25:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 06:25:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hi from Ward Batty Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <166.b6eb6d7.29da529e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2500 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "wobatty" X-Originating-IP: 66.32.83.17 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3417891 X-Yahoo-Profile: wobatty > Hi Ward! > For the benefit of the young folks, > do you want to tell them what fanzines you used to do? Ward Batty is the co-editor of Comic Shop News. His publishing days go back to 1978. He wrote the "Trufan Adventures" strip for the Comics Buyer's Guide from 1981-1988 and published two collections in 1987. He also wrote and published five issues of Boffo Laffs, a humor anthology comic, the first issue of which was the first comic book to feature a hologram on the cover. --Which is something the Overstreet Price Guide refuses to acknowledge. This has made him bitter and leads him to make these other claims: "I invented the staple that goes in the comics. Before me, they were held together with twine. "I invented the phrase 'to be continued...' Before that, it'd read 'Will this Damn Thing Ever End?' "I invented the red ink that goes into the comics. Before that, Captain America wore Blue, White and Blue. "I invented the word-balloon; before me they'd have to draw the words over everyone's stomach, which is why all old comic characters were fat. "Finally, I invented super-powers. Before me everyone had regular strength but had really great hair and all the stories were about their hair." Not exactly true. Except the hologram part. I think they actually did list it in the latest edition. I did a couple of issues of a fanzine called Fandom Digest in the late 70s. Jay Zilber and I did the 1980 Fandom Calender and the 1981 version on my own. After that I did 30 or so issues of a SF clubzine Atarantes which Cliff wrote and I did the lay-outs and design stuff, setting the mold for how we would work on CSN. I published 2 issues of Trufan Adventures Theatre (name borrowed from the old faan fiction zine, we all remember faan fiction, yes?) in 1985/86 and 5 issues of Boffo Laffs in 1986/87. We started CSN in July 1987 and will be celebrating our 15th anniversary this July. Oh, and I was the last editor of Batmania. Rich had decided to quit doing it and passed it onto me. I was assembling an issue when I was notified by DC that they had "rescinded their permission" to publish Batmania. I wasn't willing to do it anyway, although I did publish one issue of BATTyMANIA in CAPA-alpha as a protest. I remember I wrote Denis Kitchen about getting Will Eisner to illustrate a Batman story (ambitious fellow, wasn't I?) and he replied and at the end of the reply had the following PS: "I assume that your name is a pseudonym." -- Ward From wardo@mindspring.com Tue Apr 02 22:35:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: wardo@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 3 Apr 2002 06:35:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5650 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 06:35:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2002 06:35:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2002 06:35:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2002 06:35:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 06:35:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hi from Ward Batty Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CA93133.B1B43FC3@aaahawk.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1188 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "wobatty" X-Originating-IP: 66.32.83.17 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3417891 X-Yahoo-Profile: wobatty > I remember reading that your Boffo Laffs #1 was the first comic=20 book ever to > contain a holograph on the cover... At the time, how did you=20 decide on doing > something like that? I just wanted to be the first. Holograms were just starting to be=20 cheap and mass-produced. We were dealing with the DZ=20 Company through our store from whom we were getting=20 something with a hologram, I forget what, dazers maybe.=20 Anyway, they had those eye hologram on stickers in quantity for=20 11=A2 each or 15=A2 each or something. So we designed the cover=20 around the hologram sticker. I wanted a gimmick to boost sales=20 and something to get me name in the history books, which is=20 why I get so pissy when they don't list it in Overstreet. I spent all=20 the money years ago, so the Overstreet listing is what I'll have to=20 show for it (unless I can get that option for the "Ultraguy & Joe=20 Power Movie"). I did a 3-D strip in the second Trufan collection,=20 which was fun. If Boffo Laffs had maintained high enough=20 numbers I was hoping to do the first die-cut comics cover, but=20 they have done that now, I think.=20 That's OK, I still have my dream that one day CSN will by on=20 shiny paper... -- Ward From mgilbert@efn.org Wed Apr 03 07:51:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 3 Apr 2002 15:51:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 8748 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 15:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2002 15:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (206.163.176.10) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2002 15:51:51 -0000 Received: from [66.178.141.23] (23-141-178-66.dialup.efn.org [66.178.141.23]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g33FpoB12970 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:51:50 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 07:46:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 224 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1017840259.265.80060.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable From: "Michael T. Gilbert" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Actually Ward, I was the first to do a holograph comic book cover. In 1974.=20=20 Sort of.=20=20 I was actually taking a class in holography in NY back then, and they'd recently come up with that neat shiny stick-on holographic paper stuff. I was in the process of putting out an underground comic, Amazing Adult Fantasies, and thought the holo-paper would make my logo look really eye-catching. So I took the original art for the cover and pasted down the shimmering paper on the logo and asked the printer to shoot the thing so I could have the world's first Holographic cover. Imagine my disappointment when he told me you couldn't just photograph a hologram like that...you actually had to paste it down on every cover! So I did up another without the paper. Blast! And I could have been SOOO ahead of my time... ;-) Best wishes, Michael T. > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: 3 Apr 2002 13:24:19 -0000 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 224 >=20 >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 06:35:56 -0000 > From: "wobatty" > Subject: Re: Hi from Ward Batty >=20 >> I remember reading that your Boffo Laffs #1 was the first comic > book ever to >> contain a holograph on the cover... At the time, how did you > decide on doing >> something like that? >=20 > I just wanted to be the first. Holograms were just starting to be > cheap and mass-produced. We were dealing with the DZ > Company through our store from whom we were getting > something with a hologram, I forget what, dazers maybe. > Anyway, they had those eye hologram on stickers in quantity for > 11=A2 each or 15=A2 each or something. So we designed the cover > around the hologram sticker. I wanted a gimmick to boost sales > and something to get me name in the history books, which is > why I get so pissy when they don't list it in Overstreet. I spent all > the money years ago, so the Overstreet listing is what I'll have to > show for it (unless I can get that option for the "Ultraguy & Joe > Power Movie"). I did a 3-D strip in the second Trufan collection, > which was fun. If Boffo Laffs had maintained high enough > numbers I was hoping to do the first die-cut comics cover, but > they have done that now, I think. >=20 > That's OK, I still have my dream that one day CSN will by on > shiny paper... > -- > Ward >=20 From wardo@mindspring.com Wed Apr 03 09:25:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: wardo@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 3 Apr 2002 17:25:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 57572 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 17:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2002 17:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2002 17:25:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.141] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2002 17:24:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:24:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: holo comic Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 424 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "wobatty" X-Originating-IP: 66.32.84.249 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3417891 X-Yahoo-Profile: wobatty > Actually Ward, I was the first to do a holograph comic book cover. > > In 1974. > > Sort of. Thanks for the "sort of." My heart actually dropped when I started reading your post. It really shouldn't be so important to me to have this silly claim, but I guess it is. So thanks for scaring the hell out of me ;-) Cool story, thanks for posting it. Always enjoyed your stuff, hope you are keeping busy. -- Ward From wardo@mindspring.com Wed Apr 03 09:26:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: wardo@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 3 Apr 2002 17:26:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 60790 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 17:26:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2002 17:26:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2002 17:26:19 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.187] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2002 17:26:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:26:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Top_Shelf_In_Trouble_=F6_We_Need_Your_Help?= Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 7406 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "wobatty" X-Originating-IP: 66.32.84.249 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3417891 X-Yahoo-Profile: wobatty Top Shelf In Trouble =F6 We Need Your Help Dear Comics Fans, We have just been informed this week that our book trade=20 distributor has filed for bankrupcy (Chapter 11). They will=20 continue to operate and hopefully recover =F6 and we will support=20 this all we can (as our industry needs them, and they are good=20 people) =F6 but unfortunately, this has happened at a time when=20 they owed us an enormous sum of money (over $80,000.00=20 minus returns). And to make matters worse, the most recent=20 check they cut us, for almost $20,000.00, bounced this week, in=20 turn causing the last 30 checks we wrote to printers,=20 conventions, cartoonists =F6 practically every aspect of the=20 business =F6 to bounce (or be held) in turn. To put it bluntly, even with all the hard work we've put in over the=20 years, if we don't raise $20,000 this month, it could realistically=20 force us to suspend publishing operations for the foreseeable=20 future. It's hard to believe but a big domino has fallen right on top=20 of us at the worst time possible. So, that leaves us no choice but=20 to be honest and ask for your help. If 400-500 of you can find it in your hearts to each spend around=20 fifty bucks on our core list of books below, this would literally pull=20 us through =F6 We mean that. We've got such a strong future=20 schedule, and so many cool things to announce soon (including=20 two more Alan Moore projects and two Film & TV projects), that=20 I'd hate to think that we'd have to pull the plug right before we=20 were just about to arrive. In any event, if you can find it in your hearts to help us out, we will=20 be eternally grateful. We'll be manning the phones personally on=20 this "drive," and we'll also be sure to keep you informed --=20 hopefully letting all of you know in three-to-four weeks that=20 everything's okay (with your help, that is). On behalf of Brett Warnock and myself. Truly, your friend thru comics,=20 Chris Staros Top Shelf Productions PO Box 1282 Marietta, GA 30061-1282 USA (770) 425-0551 staros@bellsouth.net http://www.topshelfcomix.com http://www.topshelfcomix.com ********************************************************************** **************** ********************************************************************** **************** ORDERS OVER $100 GET AN EXTRA $25 WORTH OF BOOKS=20 FREE! FREE SHIPPING FOR US ORDERS ($10.00 FOR=20 INTERNATIONAL) PHONE IN CREDIT CARD ORDERS TO: CHRIS STAROS (770) 425-0551 OR E-MAIL CREDIT CARD ORDERS TO: STAROS@BELLSOUTH.NET OR MAIL CHECKS TO: TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS, INC. PO BOX 1282 MARIETTA, GA 30061-1282 USA OR ORDER ON-LINE AT: HTTP://WWW.TOPSHELFCOMIX.COM=20 (for our widest selection of books) THE TOP SHELF BOOKS (the short list): ALAN MOORE & EDDIE CAMPBELL: FROM HELL (GN, MOVIE COVER): $35.00 FROM HELL (GN, ORIGINAL COVER): $35.00 SNAKES & LADDERS (CB): $5.95 THE BIRTH CAUL (CB): $5.95 THE HIGHBURY WORKING CD (ALAN MOORE LIVE): $20.00 ANGEL PASSAGE CD (ALAN MOORE LIVE): $20.00 HIGHBURY & ANGEL PASSAGE POSTERS: $10.00 ea. EDDIE CAMPBELL: ALEC: HOW TO BE AN ARTIST (TP): $13.95 ALEC: THREE PIECE SUIT (TP): $14.95 ALEC: THE KING CANUTE CROWD (TP): $14.50 BACCHUS COLOR SPECIAL (CB): $2.95 BACCHUS-VOL1: IMMORTALITY ISN'T FOREVER (TP): $10.95 BACCHUS-VOL2: THE GODS OF BUSINESS (TP): $9.95 BACCHUS-VOL3: DOING THE ISLANDS WITH BACCHUS (TP):=20 $17.95 BACCHUS-VOL4: THE EYEBALL KID (TP): $8.50 BACCHUS-VOL5: EARTH, FIRE, AIR, WATER (TP): $9.95 BACCHUS-VOL6: 1001 NIGHTS OF BACCHUS (TP): $13.50 BACCHUS-VOL9: KING BACCHUS (TP): $12.95 BACCHUS-VOL10: BANGED UP (TP): $13.95 BACCHUS #1, #5-#8, #10, #12-#39, #41-#60 (CB): $2.95 EA. FROM HELL / BACCHUS / ALEC ORIGINAL ART (EMAIL=20 INQUIRIES) GARY SPENCER MILLIDGE: STRANGEHAVEN: ARCADIA (TP, VOL-1); $14.95 STRANGEHAVEN: BROTHERHOOD (TP, VOL-2): $14.95 STRANGEHAVEN #13: $2.95 EA. STRANGEHAVEN #1-#3, #5-#12: $2.95 EA. (REPRINTED IN=20 TPs) CRAIG THOMPSON: GOOD-BYE, CHUNKY RICE (GN): $14.95 DOOT DOOT GARDEN (SMALL BATCH): $7.00 BIBLE DOODLES (SMALL BATCH): $7.00 ALEX ROBINSON: BOX OFFICE POISON (GN): $29.95 ED BRUBAKER: A COMPLETE LOWLIFE (GN): $12.95 GLENN DAKIN: ABE (GN): $14.95 MATT KINDT & JASON HALL: PISTOLWHIP (GN): $14.95=20 MEPHISTO (CB): $3.95=20 JAMES KOCHALKA: KOCHALKA'S SKETCHBOOK DIARY VOLS #1 & #2 (CB): $7.95=20 ea THE PERFECT PLANET (GN): $14.95 PARADISE SUCKS (GN): $5.95 MAGIC BOY & THE WORD OF GOD (CB): $3.95 PEANUTBUTTER & JEREMY #1 (CB): $2.95 PEANUTBUTTER & JEREMY #2: THE FLIBBLEDIBBLE FILE=20 (CB): $2.95 MERMAIDS (CB): $2.95 SUNBURN (CB): $2.95 PETE SICKMAN-GARNER: HEY, MISTER: AFTER SCHOOL SPECIAL (TP, VOL-1): $7.95 HEY, MISTER: CELEBRITY ROAST (TP, VOL-2): $9.95 HEY, MISTER: THE FALL COLLECTION (TP, VOL-3): $12.95 HEY, MISTER #3 - #4 (CB): $2.95 HEY, MISTER: BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR (CB, #5): $2.95 HEY, MISTER: THE TROUBLE WITH JESUS (CB, #6): $2.95 HEY, MISTER: EYES ON THE PRIZE (CB, #7): $2.95 HEY, MISTER: DIAL 'M' FOR MISTER (CB, #8): $3.50 TOM HART: THE COLLECTED HUTCH OWEN (TP): $14.95 NEW HAT STORIES: BANKS/EUBANKS (GN): $9.95 THE SANDS (GN): $14.95 PETER KUPER: SPEECHLESS (FULL-COLOR HC): $19.95 TOPSY TURVY (TP): $9.95 REN=83E FRENCH:=20 THE SOAP LADY (HC): $19.95 SCOTT MILLS:=20 BIG CLAY POT (GN): $12.95 JOSU=83 MENJIVAR:=20 CICADA (GN): $12.95 BROKEN FENDER #1, #2 (CB): $2.95 EA. JOSH SIMMONS:=20 HAPPY (CB): $3.50 CIRKUS NEW ORLEANS (SMALL BATCH): $7.00 STEVE LAFLER:=20=20 BUGHOUSE (GN): $14.95 BAJA (GN): $9.95 BRIAN BIGGS:=20 DEAR JULIA, (GN): $12.95 DEAR JULIA, SHORT FILM (VIDEO): $15.00 DEAN HASPIEL:=20 A BOY IN MY POCKET (CB): $2.95 DAYDREAM LULLABIES: A BILLY DOGMA EXPERIENCE (TP):=20 $7.95 OPPOSABLE THUMBS (CB): $4.95 KEYHOLE #5, #6 (CB): $2.95 EA. BRETT WARNOCK -- TOP SHELF (THE ANTHOLOGY): UNDER THE BIG TOP (#8, AN): $14.95 ON PARADE (#7, AN): $6.95 TOP SHELF #5-#6 (AN): $6.95 EA. TOP SHELF #1-#2 (AN): $5.00 EA. CHRIS STAROS:=20 EXPO 2001 (INCLUDES A 23-PAGER BY CHRIS): $7.95 THE STAROS REPORT - 1996 & 1997 (ZINE): $4.95 EA. SMALL BATCH:=20 BETTER LUCK NEXT CENTURY (DYLAN HORROCKS): $7.00 SMUDGES (P. SHAW): $7.00 BERN & EDWINA (PAT MORIARITY & DAVID GREENBERGER):=20 $7.00 ACTUS: HAPPY END (FULL-COLOR HC): $21.95 ACTUS BOX (BOXED SET OF 5 COLOR GRAPHIC NOVELLAS):=20 $31.95 FLIPPER #1 & #2 (AN): $11.95 EA. JETLAG (AN): $14.50 STRIPBURGER: STRIPBUREK (AN): $17.95 MINIBURGER (BOXED SET OF 12 MINICOMICS): $19.95 XXX STRIPBURGER (AN, ADULTS ONLY): $13.95 STRIPBURGER #25, #26, #27, #29 (AN): $7.00 EA. DEE VEE:=20 DEE VEE #2-#14, LIC SPEC, #2001 (CB): $3.00 EA. ALTERNATIVE COMICS: 9-11 EMERGENCY RELIEF (AN, VARIOUS): $14.95 JORDAN CRANE:=20 THE LAST LONELY SATURDAY (GN): $8.00 DAVID CHOE:=20 BRUISED FRUIT (FULL-COLOR TP): $20.00 KURT WOLFGANG:=20 WHERE HATS GO (GN): $8.00 JEFF NICHOLSON:=20 THROUGH THE HABITRAILS: $14.95 MISC. COMIX: TALES OF THE GREAT UNSPOKEN (AARON AUGENBLICK):=20 $3.50 JACK'S LUCK RUNS OUT (JASON LITTLE): $3.50 EYE SPY (CHARISE MERICLE): $5.00 CLOCK #1, #2, #3 (PAUL SHARAR): $3.00 EA. RED CALLOWAY'S BIG BANG (SET OF #1-#4) (PAUL SHARAR):=20 $10.00 SILK-SCREENED POSTERS: NEIL GAIMAN'S THE LAST ANGEL (BY CRAIG THOMPSON):=20 $20.00 TOP SHELF: THREE ROBOTS (BY MARTIN ONTIVEROS):=20 $20.00 TOP SHELF: MAN WITH MARTINI (BY BRETT WARNOCK):=20 $10.00 TOP SHELF: THE BOXER (BY FRANKIE SIRK): $10.00 -- I'm distributing this message around. This is a chance to help a=20 really great guy and an important publisher whom we would all=20 be the poorer if they went under. My apologies for the spam. -- Ward Batty From ditko37@sympatico.ca Mon Apr 08 07:16:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 8 Apr 2002 14:16:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 40294 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2002 14:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2002 14:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.55) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2002 14:16:55 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.104.3]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20020408141654.REAT10141.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3CB1A5CD.55F8436E@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:14:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GCD List , comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, eisner-l@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: It's a new DITKO LOOKED UPdate! Pre-Inked Pencils from '66! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Another update so soon? Sure, it's the 4th anniversary of DITKO LOOKED UP! And just for the occasion, we've changed our address! Yes, no more Geocities' ads, no more being spread out over two servers, so update your bookmarks and welcome to WWW.DITKO.COMICS.ORG! What else is new? 1) Probably most earth shattering about this UPdate is the latest addition to the PRE-INKED PAGES section. We've obtained the pre-inked pencils to the splash page of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #38! I'm not kidding! It's unbelievable! Ditko at his best! 2) We've overloaded the NEWS section, as it appears a new Ditko graphic novel is on the way! Other news is sprinkled in, so check it out! 3) We've received two new exclusive additions to our THE DITKO INFLUENCE section! Comic writer extraordinaire CHUCK DIXON wrote a piece on Ditko's influence on his career, and WB Cartoon voice maestro JOE ALASKEY shares with us his never-before-told '63 interview with Steve Ditko! 4) We've updated the LINKS section to highlight my TIMELY-ATLAS COVER GALLERY; my friends BATTON LASH (who draws "Supernatural Law") and JACKIE ESTRADA at EXHIBIT A PRESS; the brightest artistic light to come out of Canada in 20 years, DAVE COOPER (artist of "Weasel" and "Crumple"); the official site of CHUCK DIXON and GENE COLAN, and more! You can check it all out in the WHAT'S NEW section at... http://www.ditko.comics.org/ditko/whatsnew.html Enjoy, and please do let us know if you have anything (artwork, rare Ditko artifacts, news, or comments and criticisms) to contribute. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org/ * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - Bill Everett / Alex Schomburg / Syd Shores : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years and still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/index.html * http://www.snyder-ditko.com & http://www.boredwithtoday.com From robert@brandywine.net Sun Apr 14 19:04:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: robert@brandywine.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 15 Apr 2002 02:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 21599 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2002 02:04:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2002 02:04:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2002 02:04:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2002 02:04:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:04:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzines for Sale / 60s-80s Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 411 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "robertgerson" X-Originating-IP: 68.6.97.131 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238949 X-Yahoo-Profile: robertgerson fellow fanzine fanatics: I have several lots of rare comic art fanzines from the 60s-80s for sale on ebay closing Tuesday night. seller is robert@brandywine.net or my seller page at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewLi stedItems&userid=robert@brandywine.net&include=0&since=-1&sort= 3&rows=25 We now return you to your regularly scheduled program! Thanks for looking. Robert From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 09:08:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 25 Apr 2002 16:08:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 50009 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2002 16:04:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2002 16:04:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2002 16:04:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2002 16:04:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:04:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: neat seeing Ditko's name emblazoned on the credits for Spiderman Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 354 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "ninthnebula10" X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.221 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 I thought it was cool seeing Ditko's name emblazoned on the credits for the Spiderman Film (in an ad on TV I just saw). http://graphic-illusion.com http://www.paper-mountain-comics.com So does anyone have a list of every single thing Ditko has ever done (artwise) in comics, fanzines or anywhere. And are there any good comic cons happening soon? From tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com Fri May 24 13:11:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tcaseybrennan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 24 May 2002 20:11:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 88184 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 20:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 May 2002 20:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11102.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.131.149) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2002 20:01:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20020524200155.6919.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.109.114.30] by web11102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:01:55 PDT Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CRYSTAL MEMORIES illustrated & posted! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20020509235439.7979.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "T. Casey Brennan" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=9197195 X-Yahoo-Profile: tcaseybrennan http://pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/crystal.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From magnus@io.com Tue Jun 04 07:44:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71941 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2002 14:44:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2002 14:44:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2002 14:44:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: magnus@io.com Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2002 14:44:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 04 Jun 2002 14:44:30 -0000 X-Sender: magnus@io.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 3 Jun 2002 19:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 62203 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2002 19:06:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2002 19:06:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sm11.texas.rr.com) (24.93.35.42) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2002 19:06:51 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.25] (cs242741-217.austin.rr.com [24.27.41.217]) by sm11.texas.rr.com (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g53I3YoG025751 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:03:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: magnus@mail.io.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:05:21 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: inquiry concerning Richard Kyle Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: bruce lanier wright X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2296471 Hello. I'm writing the list at the suggestion of Bud Plant, and I hope one of you might be able to help me. I'm attempting to get contact information on Richard Kyle, former publisher of Argosy. This has to do with some research I am doing into the life of John W. Campbell; I've been told that at one point Kyle was attempting to publish some material on the subject assembled by Sam Moskowitz, but lost financial backing. Anything anyone could tell me concerning how to contact Kyle would be a great help. Please feel free to contact me offlist. Best, Bruce Lanier Wright -- From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Jun 04 17:26:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 Jun 2002 00:26:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 76640 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 00:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 00:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 00:26:18 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.128.12637772 (17528) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <128.12637772.2a2eb4a6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:26:14 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] inquiry concerning Richard Kyle To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/2002 10:45:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, magnus@io.com writes: > Hello. I'm writing the list at the suggestion of Bud Plant, and I hope > one of you might be able to help me. > > I'm attempting to get contact information on Richard Kyle, so he no longer runs his bookstore? steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From magnus@io.com Tue Jun 04 17:51:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57853 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 00:51:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 00:51:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 00:51:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: magnus@io.com Received: from [66.218.67.189] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2002 00:51:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Jun 2002 00:51:30 -0000 X-Sender: magnus@io.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 Jun 2002 00:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2364 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 00:31:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 00:31:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sm14.texas.rr.com) (24.93.35.41) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 00:31:19 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.25] (cs242741-217.austin.rr.com [24.27.41.217]) by sm14.texas.rr.com (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g550dAUn028566 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:39:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: magnus@mail.io.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <128.12637772.2a2eb4a6@aol.com> References: <128.12637772.2a2eb4a6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:29:45 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] inquiry concerning Richard Kyle Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: bruce lanier wright X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2296471 X-Yahoo-Profile: perkypat523 > > Hello. I'm writing the list at the suggestion of Bud Plant, and I hope >> one of you might be able to help me. >> >> I'm attempting to get contact information on Richard Kyle, > >so he no longer runs his bookstore? No idea, really. I've read some of his articles, but don't know much about the author. Langley Searles sent me a clipping from NIEKAS 44 that mentions his involvement with the Moskowitz manuscript. Anyone know if said bookstore is still with us? Thanks, Bruce W. -- From srowecanoe@aol.com Tue Jun 04 18:11:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 Jun 2002 01:11:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 15170 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 01:11:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 01:11:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 01:11:18 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.11e.1198f679 (17528) for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11e.1198f679.2a2ebf2f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:11:11 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] inquiry concerning Richard Kyle To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/2002 8:53:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, magnus@io.com writes: > No idea, really. I've read some of his articles, but don't know much > about the author. Langley Searles sent me a clipping from NIEKAS 44 > that mentions his involvement with the Moskowitz manuscript. Anyone > know if said bookstore is still with us? > wow, Richard Kyle was one of the giants of early fandom, and creator of the term "graphic novel" and "graphic story". He published Fantasy Illustrated, Graphic Story Magazine, Graphic Story World, WonderWorld, and write lots of articles. Ask Bob Beebhaum or the guy who writes those comics fandom history books for TwoMorrows (and my mind has slipped on his name), i suspect that would know where Richard is steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From magnus@io.com Tue Jun 04 19:54:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 85490 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 02:54:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 02:54:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 02:54:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: magnus@io.com Received: from [66.218.67.144] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2002 02:54:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Jun 2002 02:54:42 -0000 X-Sender: magnus@io.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 Jun 2002 02:42:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 70626 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 02:42:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2002 02:42:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sm12.texas.rr.com) (24.93.35.43) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 02:42:24 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.25] (cs242741-217.austin.rr.com [24.27.41.217]) by sm12.texas.rr.com (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g552XDpF007947 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:33:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: magnus@mail.io.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <11e.1198f679.2a2ebf2f@aol.com> References: <11e.1198f679.2a2ebf2f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:40:48 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] inquiry concerning Richard Kyle Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: bruce lanier wright X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2296471 X-Yahoo-Profile: perkypat523 >wow, Richard Kyle was one of the giants of early fandom, and creator of the >term "graphic novel" and "graphic story". He published Fantasy Illustrated, >Graphic Story Magazine, Graphic Story World, WonderWorld, and write lots of >articles. Interesting. I gafiated from comics fandom in the seventies, and frankly the old noggin is forgetting a lot of what it once knew in this arena. Wrote some stuff on fantasy cinema in the early nineties--these days I've got a serious bug for pre-1960 written SF... > Ask Bob Beebhaum or the guy who writes those comics fandom history books >for TwoMorrows (and my mind has slipped on his name), i suspect that would >know where Richard is Thank you, sir. I'll work on these leads. Best, Bruce W. -- From RGBAEZA@lanchile.cl Fri Jun 07 06:01:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Rgbaeza@lanchile.cl X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 7 Jun 2002 13:01:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 41749 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2002 13:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2002 13:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.lanchile.cl) (200.14.104.25) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2002 13:01:43 -0000 Received: by 2kmtascl.lanchile.cl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:00:07 -0400 Message-ID: <273B001BAE55CB44A3ABA98C5EEEC6BC463E64@2kcorreoscl01.lanchile.cl> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: inquiry concerning Richard Kyle Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:00:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain From: "Baeza, Rodrigo (Pros)" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=856716 X-Yahoo-Profile: lesangfroid Bruce > > Ask Bob Beebhaum or the guy who writes those comics fandom history > books > >for TwoMorrows (and my mind has slipped on his name), i suspect that > would > >know where Richard is > > Thank you, sir. I'll work on these leads. > > The guy who does the fandom history books is Bill Schelly, and his address is wschelly@aol.com Rodrigo Baeza From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Fri Jun 07 06:57:23 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 7 Jun 2002 13:57:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 96417 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2002 13:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2002 13:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2002 13:57:21 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31452 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:57:18 -0500 Received: from [208.136.132.152] (ppp57.netimaging.com [208.136.132.198]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30763 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:57:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1023422103.238.96393.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1023422103.238.96393.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:57:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Richard Kyle (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. inquiry concerning Richard Kyle > From: bruce lanier wright > 2. Re: inquiry concerning Richard Kyle > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > > From: bruce lanier wright >Subject: inquiry concerning Richard Kyle > >Hello. I'm writing the list at the suggestion of Bud Plant, and I hope >one of you might be able to help me. > >I'm attempting to get contact information on Richard Kyle, >Bruce Lanier Wright > > > >Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:11:11 EDT > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > >wow, Richard Kyle was one of the giants of early fandom, and creator of th= e >term "graphic novel" and "graphic story". He published Fantasy Illustrat= ed, >Graphic Story Magazine, Graphic Story World, WonderWorld, and write lots o= f >articles. > > Ask Bob Beerbohm or the guy who writes those comics fandom history b= ooks >for TwoMorrows (and my mind has slipped on his name), i suspect that woul= d >know where Richard is > >steven rowe Hello, You had sent me an earlier email per Bud Plant's prompting - here is=20 Richard Kyle's address: Richard Kyle 3644 Lewis Ave Long Beach, CA 90807-4120 Tell him I sent you -:) so he will know you are a serious researcher. Contact me off list again for his phone number. he did not publish Fantasy Illustrated which title changed into GSM -=20 that was Bill Spicer - inwhich FI he coined/wrote his initial series on "graphic novel=20 story" naming concepts He did publish the other zines mentioned. robert --=20 Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG v36 #2 Summer 2002- OUT NOW! **Lots of Vintage Comic Books, Pulps, BLB,s etc*** **North America people ask me for your Free Copy** ************************************************** Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ************************************************** Moderator: Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group (Co-Moderators: Doug Wheeler & Leonardo De S=E1) Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips at: http://www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/PlatPics All roads seem to lead back to Rudolphe T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. 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From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" From ditko37@sympatico.ca Fri Jun 07 07:09:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 7 Jun 2002 14:09:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11717 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2002 14:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2002 14:09:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.55) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2002 14:09:09 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.99.240]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020607140908.YYGB3699.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:09:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3D00BE96.BD1D3E68@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:09:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Richard Kyle References: <1023422103.238.96393.m12@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Robert Beerbohm wrote: > Richard Kyle > 3644 Lewis Ave > Long Beach, CA 90807-4120 > > Tell him I sent you -:) > so he will know you are a serious researcher. Robert, I tried calling him, mentioned your name and Richard hung up abruptly, changed his phone number, moved out of state and had plastic surgery to disguise himself. :p SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Sat Jun 08 07:07:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 8 Jun 2002 14:07:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6766 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2002 14:07:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jun 2002 14:07:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 14:07:15 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30745 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:07:14 -0500 Received: from [208.136.132.152] (ppp10.netimaging.com [208.136.132.151]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30468 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:07:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1023498006.136.73172.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1023498006.136.73172.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:07:02 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics > >Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:09:26 -0400 > From: Blake Bell >Subject: Re: Richard Kyle > > >Robert Beerbohm wrote: >> Richard Kyle >> 3644 Lewis Ave >> Long Beach, CA 90807-4120 >> >> Tell him I sent you -:) >> so he will know you are a serious researcher. > > Robert, I tried calling him, mentioned your name and Richard >hung up abruptly, changed his phone number, moved out of state >and had plastic surgery to disguise himself. :p > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. Good Morning Blakester, Aw, gee, that was just in the last 5 days since the last post marked=20 letter from the above address supplying me with more data for my=20 comics business history book -:))))) them Hollywood Plastic Surgeons=20 are FAAAAAST. blb --=20 From magnus@io.com Sat Jun 08 07:36:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94761 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2002 14:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jun 2002 14:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 14:36:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: magnus@io.com Received: from [66.218.67.185] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2002 14:36:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 08 Jun 2002 14:36:06 -0000 X-Sender: magnus@io.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 8 Jun 2002 14:28:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 53869 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2002 14:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jun 2002 14:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sm11.texas.rr.com) (24.93.35.42) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 14:28:34 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.32] (cs242741-217.austin.rr.com [24.27.41.217]) by sm11.texas.rr.com (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g58DP3oG003701 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:25:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: magnus@mail.io.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1023422103.238.96393.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:27:03 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Richard Kyle (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: bruce lanier wright X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2296471 X-Yahoo-Profile: perkypat523 >You had sent me an earlier email per Bud Plant's prompting - here is >Richard Kyle's address: > >Richard Kyle >3644 Lewis Ave >Long Beach, CA 90807-4120 > >Tell him I sent you -:) >so he will know you are a serious researcher. Oh, I'm serious. Very serious. Taciturn, even. Thanks much, gents! Bruce W. -- From mvhaas@elpaso.net Mon Jun 10 18:18:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 11 Jun 2002 01:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5400 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2002 01:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2002 01:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2002 01:18:28 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5B1IRS22973 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:18:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1023571457.133.50508.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1023571457.133.50508.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:19:23 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bruce Pelz (1936-2002) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder From David Langford's science fiction e-zine Ansible #179: http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/Ansible/a179.html comes the following: "Bruce Pelz (1936-2002), US fan who was a mainstay of the Los Angeles SF Society, a past Worldcon chair, and did invaluable work in archiving the history and publications of fandom, died from a pulmonary embolism on 9 May. He was 65." Pelz was a member of the comics apa CAPA-Alpha from #51 (Jan/69) to #76 (Feb/71) during Fred Patten's term as CM and was one of a number of LA-area science fiction fans in the 1960s who were also comics fans. best -- Merlin Haas From ditko37@sympatico.ca Tue Jun 11 21:54:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 04:54:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 59866 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 04:54:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 04:54:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.189) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 04:54:27 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.103.229]) by tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020612045424.ITDP8711.tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:54:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3D06D414.3D3455E@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:54:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gene Day Zines? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done in the mid-to-late '70s? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From rmaheras@aol.com Wed Jun 12 06:14:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91044 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 13:14:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 13:14:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 13:14:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2002 13:14:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 12 Jun 2002 13:14:14 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 13:13:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13206 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 13:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 13:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 13:13:22 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.12b.1290c3d2 (15974) for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m21.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.137]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v86.12) with ESMTP id MAILINID101-0612091313; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:13:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:12:53 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? Message-ID: <46D061C6.1257626F.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 I don't have an overall list, but I can narrow your search down a tad. Gene Day only had one piece of large-sized art in the first 400 issues of The Buyer's Guide (I did not catalog spot illustrations). He had a full-page piece of art inside TBG 227, in a section Alan Light called "Covers That Almost Made It." I can also tell you that Gene had some art in one or more of the first three issues of Brad Young's fanzine "Unpublished," circa 1976-78. Hope this helps somewhat. Russ Maheras From ditko37@sympatico.ca Wed Jun 12 06:17:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17673 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.3) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 13:17:43 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.103.229]) by tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020612131742.NPVP3010.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:17:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3D074A05.1920CBE0@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:17:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? References: <46D061C6.1257626F.0079F8E7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan rmaheras@aol.com wrote: > I don't have an overall list, but I can narrow your search down > a tad. Gene Day only had one piece of large-sized art in the > first 400 issues of The Buyer's Guide (I did not catalog spot > illustrations). He had a full-page piece of art inside TBG 227, > in a section Alan Light called "Covers That Almost Made It." > > I can also tell you that Gene had some art in one or more of > the first three issues of Brad Young's fanzine "Unpublished," > circa 1976-78. > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > Russ Maheras Hi Russ. Thanks for your help. The reason I was asking is because Deni Loubert says she was reading a 'zine that Gene Day had put out in the mid '70s and it was the first time she saw Dave Sim's work, as he was a regular contributor. Does THAT joggle any memories of any one? Needless to say, the distribution in Kitchener Ontario in the '70s may not have been that good, but I suspect Gene's 'zines were help in SOME asteem, so they might be a bit better known. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Jun 12 08:34:58 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 15:34:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 51605 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 15:34:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 15:34:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 15:34:57 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.ff.1926a2ed (4159) for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:34:41 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/2002 9:18:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@sympatico.ca writes: > Hi Russ. Thanks for your help. > The reason I was asking is because Deni Loubert says she was reading a > 'zine > that Gene Day had put out in the mid '70s and it was the first time she saw > Dave Sim's work, as he was a regular contributor. > Does THAT joggle any memories of any one? Needless to say, the > distribution > in Kitchener Ontario in the '70s may not have been that good, but I suspect > Gene's 'zines were help in SOME asteem, so they might be a bit better known no one here knows, because these were mainly SF/ fantasy zines. I never had one, but i do recall seeing some that Steve Keeter had. (Steve is in Orlando now i believe) Always the chance that MSU might have one or so though, but you'd do better asking SF fans steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Jun 12 08:39:48 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 15:39:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 54585 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 15:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 15:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 15:39:48 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.46.28c7fc3b (4159) for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46.28c7fc3b.2a38c53e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:39:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/2002 9:18:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@sympatico.ca writes: > Hi Russ. Thanks for your help. > The reason I was asking is because Deni Loubert says she was reading a > 'zine > that Gene Day had put out in the mid '70s and it was the first time she saw > Dave Sim's work, as he was a regular contributor. > Does THAT joggle any memories of any one? Needless to say, the > distribution > in Kitchener Ontario in the '70s may not have been that good, but I suspect > Gene's 'zines were help in SOME asteem, so they might be a bit better known no one here knows, because these were mainly SF/ fantasy zines. I never had one, but i do recall seeing some that Steve Keeter had. (Steve is in Orlando now i believe) Always the chance that MSU might have one or so though, but you'd do better asking SF fans steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 15:00:51 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 22:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 62832 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 22:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 22:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10504.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.154) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 22:00:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020612220050.75519.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.60.70] by web10504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:00:50 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <46.28c7fc3b.2a38c53e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10482206 Deni was probably refering to CANAR, a canadian comics interview magazine that Sim worked on before Cerebus. He did a couple of strips for it besides conducting the interviews. --- srowecanoe@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/12/2002 9:18:57 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > ditko37@sympatico.ca writes: > > > > Hi Russ. Thanks for your help. > > The reason I was asking is because Deni Loubert > says she was reading a > > 'zine > > that Gene Day had put out in the mid '70s and it > was the first time she saw > > Dave Sim's work, as he was a regular contributor. > > Does THAT joggle any memories of any one? > Needless to say, the > > distribution > > in Kitchener Ontario in the '70s may not have been > that good, but I suspect > > Gene's 'zines were help in SOME asteem, so they > might be a bit better known > > no one here knows, because these were mainly SF/ > fantasy zines. > I never had one, but i do recall seeing some that > Steve Keeter had. > (Steve is in Orlando now i believe) > > Always the chance that MSU might have one or so > though, > but you'd do better asking SF fans > > steven rowe > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Jun 12 16:16:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 12 Jun 2002 23:16:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 68883 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 23:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2002 23:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 23:16:12 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.1a2.3922262 (4158) for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a2.3922262.2a393035@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:16:05 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Day Zines? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/2002 6:02:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mclegg_2000@yahoo.com writes: > Deni was probably refering to CANAR, a canadian comics > interview magazine that Sim worked on before Cerebus. > He did a couple of strips for it besides conducting > the interviews. > and one of the first Sim-stuff appeared in a DC oriented fanzine, whose title i forget, something like "National Advisor". Really bad stuff - it was enjoyable to have Dave autograph it... - but Gene Day did do fanzines./.. Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From magilla445@aol.com Wed Jun 12 22:39:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Magilla445@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 13 Jun 2002 05:39:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 50073 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2002 05:39:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jun 2002 05:39:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2002 05:39:48 -0000 Received: from Magilla445@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.13d.fbe1d65 (25305) for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <13d.fbe1d65.2a398a1c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT Subject: Gene Day Zines? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10516 From: magilla445@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2232318 X-Yahoo-Profile: magilla445us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done > in the mid-to-late '70s? Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd. Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style had been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzines, mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba, Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Gene Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I think I still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked to Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something to do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list will remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, then kind of disappeared. I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From chriscollier1168@hotmail.com Sun Jun 30 06:31:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22621 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 13:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jun 2002 13:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2002 13:31:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: chriscollier1168@hotmail.com Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2002 13:31:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 30 Jun 2002 13:31:56 -0000 X-Sender: chriscollier1168@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 30 Jun 2002 10:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 63933 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 10:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jun 2002 10:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2002 10:35:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2002 10:35:26 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:35:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comics Journal Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 87 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "dftr1168" X-Originating-IP: 168.103.201.206 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116174447 X-Yahoo-Profile: dftr1168 Anyone get the latest issue of the Comics Journal? Any good? Chris C. Houston, Texas From jka88@shaw.ca Thu Jul 04 18:29:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41405 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 01:29:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 01:29:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 01:29:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jka88@shaw.ca Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2002 01:29:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Jul 2002 01:29:55 -0000 X-Sender: jka88@shaw.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 4 Jul 2002 18:16:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 45142 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 18:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jul 2002 18:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca) (24.71.223.10) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2002 18:16:03 -0000 Received: from pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.233]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GYQ000K2LEQAH@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml1so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.145]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GYQ00IH5LEQA0@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hppav (h24-70-83-173.ed.shawcable.net [24.70.83.173]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0GYQ00IEELENWD@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:13:32 -0600 Subject: Introduction. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <000b01c22386$8239a180$ad534618@ed.shawcable.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal From: John X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=103115814 X-Yahoo-Profile: blindpewca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, Allow me to introduce myself. My name is John Adcock from British Columbia, Canada.I did some artwork for a few fanzines from around 1967 to 1975. Most are quite unknown. One was from San Diego called Weirdom. Another from Chicago, Chronicle. Attached is a cover I did for Antares of Edmonton, Alberta in 1975.Wally Wood was a big influence.I subscribed to Antares and Amra as well as all the Burroughs fanzines.Can anyone tell me the history of Amra? What date was number 1? The envelopes Amra arrived in were always covered with little Krenkel pen and ink illos. Great stuff ! Yers,John Adcock. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Jul 04 19:10:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Jul 2002 02:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 89042 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 02:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 02:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 02:10:01 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id r.ac.29c022dc (3996) for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:09:57 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Introduction. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/4/2002 9:30:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jka88@shaw.ca writes: > My name is John Adcock from British Columbia, Canada.I did some artwork for > a few fanzines from around 1967 to 1975. Most are quite unknown. > One was from San Diego called Weirdom Since Weirdom became one of the first non-humor underground comix (as Weirdom Illustrated), i would say that that at least is fairly known.... steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Jul 04 19:31:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 85651 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 02:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 02:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 02:31:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.130] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2002 02:31:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Jul 2002 02:31:16 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Jul 2002 02:28:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5399 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 02:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 02:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 02:28:17 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id r.10f.136d20e1 (3991) for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10f.136d20e1.2a565e39@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:28:09 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Introduction. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/4/2002 8:30:26 PM Central Daylight Time, jka88@shaw.ca writes: > I did some artwork for a few fanzines from around 1967 to 1975. Most are > quite unknown. One was from San Diego called Weirdom. Another from Chicago, > Chronicle. Hi John -- I'm quite familiar with Chronicle. It was published by George Breo. Which issue(s) did you work on? Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jka88@shaw.ca Fri Jul 05 18:16:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9335 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2002 01:16:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2002 01:16:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2002 01:16:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jka88@shaw.ca Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2002 01:16:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Jul 2002 01:16:37 -0000 X-Sender: jka88@shaw.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Jul 2002 14:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 34131 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2002 14:37:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2002 14:37:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) (24.71.223.10) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2002 14:37:25 -0000 Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GYS005KD5YDNW@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml5so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.149]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GYS00E1G5YDAT@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hppav (h24-70-83-173.ed.shawcable.net [24.70.83.173]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0GYS00JJ45YBUL@l-daemon> for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:34:50 -0600 Subject: Antares To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <000801c22431$22d55940$ad534618@ed.shawcable.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal From: John X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=103115814 X-Yahoo-Profile: blindpewca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Steven and Russ, Russ, I couldn't tell you which Chronicle my art appeared in.Thirty Five years of moving left me without a lot of my old stuff.I remember George Breo though.If you go to; http://johnadcock.0catch.com/ you can see the cover I did for Antares in 1975. Here are three other websites I put together; http://members.tripod.com/jadcock8/index.htm http://yesterdayspapers.150m.com/ http://mysterymen.dreamstation.com/ I will have to read the old postings when I find time. Fanzines was a great idea for a group. Congratulations to whoever came up with the idea. John Adcock. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From acaplan@paceworldwide.com Sat Jul 06 04:54:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: acaplan@paceworldwide.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Jul 2002 11:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 58453 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2002 11:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jul 2002 11:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2002 11:54:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2002 11:54:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 11:54:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Info on John Fantucchio Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2401 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fugtussey" X-Originating-IP: 172.136.141.19 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78344182 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey I am searching for information on John G. Fantucchio, RBCC cover artist extraordinairre. I'm specifically trying to compile a list for a fellow collector on his contributions to various fanzines and such. Here's what I've got so far: Chronicle 1 Gosh Wow #2 RBCC #44, 50, 53, 55, 57 to 65, and 93 (last RBCC cover) Rocket's Blast Special #5 (His earliest published fanzine work?) The Collector #1, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 21, 24 to 28 The Collector Special Fandom Annual #1, 2 Fantastic Fanzine #10 to 13 Fantastic Exploits #14 Fantastic Fanzine Special #1, 2 Fandom Spectacular 1972 Helix #1 Comic Crusader #6, 9 I'll Be Damned #1 Sense Of Wonder #7 All Dynamic #4 Buyers Guide for Comic Fandom #1, 11, 13 On The Drawing Board #18 (aka The Comic Reader 66) Panorama One Panorama Posters, any done by him SFCA "Classic Reproductions" posters Comic & Crypt #6 Golden Age #1 Nucleus #8 Vampirella 5 Creepy 34 Creepy 33 (listed in credits, but couldn't find anything) MetroCon Program Book 1972 Fantucchio work or interviews also were in publications called; "The Guardian", "Ragnarok", "Alter Ego", "Hero Hobby", "The Spectrum", "With Pen + Brush", "Id, Ego, Aeon", "Spectragrams", "Fandom's Fans", "Comicology", "Seraphim", "Chronicle", "Comicscope", but I do not know the issue numbers. Also, does anyone have the inside line as to why he dropped out of fandom? I hear he is an extremely private person (yes, he is still alive & well) and considers his fandom experience a "closed chapter" in his life - he doesn't like to even talk about it! Obviously, he dropped out of comic fandom because he didn't like it. Comic fandom in the late 60's could be very political, and John was among the most sought after artist for fanzines - and fan editors NEVER paid for artwork! Not that he was money hungry, but remember, he was a commercial artist by trade. There was tons of pressure on hot artists to contribute. Can you imagine the amount of time he put into each illustration, & not be paid? Can you also imagine being inundated with hundreds of telephone calls & letters from kid editors requesting a cover painting for their new crudzine? I'll bet some of those fan-eds were not so kind if he refused. I can see how he might have become jaded by the 60's fanzine scene. Anyway, I really don't know, this is just conjecture. Comments & Info please? -Aaron Caplan- From rmaheras@aol.com Sat Jul 06 17:30:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81259 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2002 00:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2002 00:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2002 00:30:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.128] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2002 00:30:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Jul 2002 00:30:27 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Jul 2002 00:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24629 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2002 00:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2002 00:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2002 00:29:21 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id r.9b.29fa0b70 (25916) for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9b.29fa0b70.2a58e55b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:29:15 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Info on John Fantucchio To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Edited-By: ditko37@sympatico.ca In a message dated 7/6/2002 6:55:16 AM Central Daylight Time, acaplan@paceworldwide.com writes: > Buyers Guide for Comic Fandom #1, 11, 13 Regarding John Fantucchio. He also did the cover to TBG #26 and 219 Russ Maheras From acaplan@paceworldwide.com Sun Jul 14 18:15:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: acaplan@paceworldwide.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 15 Jul 2002 01:15:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 21147 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2002 01:15:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2002 01:15:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2002 01:15:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2002 01:15:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 01:15:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Financing my way to the San Diego Comicon in two weeks/Fantucchio Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1084 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fugtussey" X-Originating-IP: 172.156.101.55 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78344182 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Thanks for the info on Fantucchio, Russ! Anymore info on Fantucchio out there? By the way everybody, I am selling a bunch of extremely rare & historic fanzines on ebay this week to finance my trip to the San Diego Comicon next month. Anybody else going? As you know, I am an avid collector of old comic fanzines from the 60's & I need money to buy more! See my eBay auctions under the seller name "fugtussey" this week for the following extremely rare and historical fanzines: Fantasy Illustrated #1 (1963), Fantasy Illustrated #2 (1964), Fantasy Illustrated #3 (1964), Fantasy Illustrated #4 (1965), Sense of Wonder #1 (1966), The World of Fanzines (hardback book) by Fredric Wertham (1973), to name a few. All of these are ultra-rare & have never been seen on eBay (that I know of)! While they are pretty pricey, if any of you comicbookfanzine group members win (make sure you mention your membership), I will provide the Priority postage & insurance free of charge. Guy, I haven't forgotten you. I'm working on getting those Bombshell scans to ya! Thanks, Aaron From acaplan@paceworldwide.com Fri Jul 19 08:05:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: acaplan@paceworldwide.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 19 Jul 2002 15:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26644 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 15:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2002 15:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 15:05:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.157] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2002 15:05:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:05:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spa Fon #1 -Anybody got a copy? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 738 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "fugtussey" X-Originating-IP: 12.145.48.210 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78344182 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Is anyone out there? I just sold my Fantasy Illustrated #2 & 4 to a guy from Denmark who has a serious compulsion to buy Spa Fon #1 for big bucks ($150+). I just bought one of these for $100, but I'm not willing to sell it since it took me over 1.5 years to find one! If anyone out there is willing to sell theirs, I will give you the guys e-mail, no intermediary. He's a really nice guy and paid immediately via PayPal. By the way, Spa Fon 1 is a really weird issue. Hauser & company took someone else's fanzine cover, probably a sci-fi zine, & literally pasted on the Spa Fon logo over top of the old cover logo. It's very obvious, but all issues are published in this way, so it's not an anomaly. Thanks, Aaron Caplan From customego@yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 19 Jul 2002 15:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14141 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 15:15:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2002 15:15:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 15:15:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2002 15:15:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:15:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fantasy Heroes Hangout #1 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 249 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "customego" X-Originating-IP: 66.185.85.75 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21727027 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi Fanzine Friends, Does anyone have a copy of Fantasy Heroes Hangout #1 they are willing to sell? Of if possible scan or photocopy it for me? Please email at toys4u@yahoo.com if you can help. TIA, Darrin Ama-Hero Online http://amahero.cjb.net From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Jul 19 23:02:01 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 20 Jul 2002 06:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 99100 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 06:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2002 06:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 06:02:01 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id 5.4b.20758598 (4571) for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4b.20758598.2a6a56d5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 02:01:57 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Spa Fon #1 -Anybody got a copy? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/19/02 8:05:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, acaplan@paceworldwide.com writes: > By the way, Spa Fon 1 is a really weird issue. Hauser & company took > someone else's fanzine cover, probably a sci-fi zine, & literally > pasted on the Spa Fon logo over top of the old cover logo. It's very > obvious, but all issues are published in this way, so it's not an > anomaly. > That's because it was intended to be issue #4 of a fanzine titled OUTRE. If you check your copy you'll see that the SPA FON is glued on over the OUTRE title of an already printed cover. I recently lucked into copies of OUTRE #1-3 which have material much like the non-EC content of SPA FON #1.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sat Jul 20 01:08:58 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 20 Jul 2002 08:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 50722 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 08:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2002 08:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net) (209.240.212.81) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 08:08:58 -0000 Received: from storefull-2332.public.lawson.webtv.net (storefull-2332.public.lawson.webtv.net [209.240.213.172]) by smtpout-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 45700BE16 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-2332.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id BAA24857; Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:08:56 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAnya+axm8eBRSGrs8YevT72EsfzICFQDKU4THPj9coV9687FJnr+uC8Lgzg== Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 04:08:56 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 241 Message-ID: <11912-3D391A98-88@storefull-2332.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 20 Jul 2002 06:31:18 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 Okay... I've been meaning to post/ask this for a while-- But I felt sort of silly! Does anyone out there have phoos of the pnael discussions from MARVEL CON 1976 (Commodore Hotel, Manhattan)? I moderated a bunch of the panels... And would love to get some snaps! Best, Nostalgic Jim (Jim Burns/James H. Burns) From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Jul 20 08:25:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86609 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 15:25:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2002 15:25:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 15:25:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2002 15:25:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 20 Jul 2002 15:25:55 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 20 Jul 2002 13:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 2052 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2002 13:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2002 13:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 13:17:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2075 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 2002 13:18:38 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 2059 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2002 13:18:38 -0000 Received: from roswell0131.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.131) by zianet.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2002 13:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3D39640B.8030903@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:22:19 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 241 References: <11912-3D391A98-88@storefull-2332.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: >Does anyone out there have phoos of the pnael discussions from MARVEL >CON 1976 (Commodore Hotel, Manhattan)? > I'm sorry, but I can't help you there, Jim. The best I could do is send you scans of this, if you don't have it: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/Marvel76.jpg If this brings back any old memories, lmk and I'll scan and post it. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Mon Aug 05 15:04:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95732 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 22:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2002 22:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 22:04:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.163] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2002 22:04:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Aug 2002 22:04:11 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1242 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.187] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2002 20:55:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:55:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Newbie! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1337 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Hello everyone, I'm Chris and I have recently gotten the fanzine bug. (Thanks to Aaron for the head's up on this group.) My story is this: When Sam Grainger died his family wasn't very interested in the comics-related items he had left behind. Most, like his art table and such went to a mutual friend. He owns the local comics shop and has done artwork for Doorman and other titles and has even helped encourage other local artists. One is working for Marvel. All of this long-winded background is leading up to this: The shop owner discovered I was developing an interest in 60's fanzines and soon I was in possession of the following; RBCC#'s 36,38,40,44,47,48,50. RBCC Special#1,3,5. RBCC annual#1 K-a#6 (with one-page non-stapled flyer for issue 7.) Alter-Ego #4(NM and white as snow) 9,10. Golden Age #1 Star Spangled #4(most of these items still have Sam's subscription address tag on them!) AND the dittoed 'Secrets behind All-Star Comics' by none other than Jerry Bails. I am now hooked! (My wife is gonna kill me as I will need space for this new passion.) I'm going to catch up on the past postings here and hope to make some new friends here. Chris Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes. --Jack Handey Deep Thoughts From srowecanoe@aol.com Mon Aug 05 16:16:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 5 Aug 2002 23:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 34566 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 23:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2002 23:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 23:16:45 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.50.f79a386 (4340) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50.f79a386.2a806153@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:35 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome Chris (of no last name)! this is a quiet list (hey nobody even said anything about the new RBCC#3 just out) but feel free to start talking.... I take it you are in the Charlotte NC area? steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From acaplan@paceworldwide.com Mon Aug 05 19:05:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ACaplan@paceworldwide.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Aug 2002 02:05:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23646 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 02:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2002 02:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PACEMAIL.PACEWORLDWIDE.COM) (12.145.48.210) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 02:05:34 -0000 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:05:06 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on pacenotes/PACE(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/05/2002 10:05:16 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: acaplan@paceworldwide.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78344182 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Yes, glad to see you made it Chris! Welcome! By the way, did anyone make it to Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego last week? It was a blast! I attended Blake Bell's Ditko tribute and it was an excellent session - cudos to you Blake for a well rounded, passionate panel (including Blake as moderator, John Romita Sr, Gary Groth, Batton Lash and Paul Smith) and great audience participation. It was one of the better attended panels also. The Mad Magazine panel was also a riot with Mark Evanier as moderator, Al Feldstein, Frank Jacobs & Sergio Aragones (arriving real late). Al dominated the panel, absolutely hysterical, really funny! Later on, I had my Squa Tront #3 signed by him and he was kind enough to explain the history of that moonscape painting (it's my favorite fanzine cover). He told me it was one of the paintings hanging in Bill Gaines office on "permanent loan" to Bill from Al. At the time, his office only had the 3 witch paintings by Johnny Craig and the Graham Ingles Squa Tront 4 cover - all horror oriented, no sci-fi. So Feldstein offered the moonscape. When Bill died, his family sold it off and Al never got a penny for it. He was not bitter about it at all and was bemused (and proud) that he had heard someone had bought it for $14,000. About 3 years ago, he was commissioned to recreate the moonscape, and said the recreation was better than the original! We talked for about 10 minutes. That signing was my highlight of the show. Gene Simmons from KISS also had a great question and answer session. Simmons, who was a consummate comic geek in the mid-60's, was promoting his new Kiss Comic. Simmons, then known as "Gene Klein," published several comic fanzines, including Fawn, Tinderbox, Cosmos/Stiletto and contributed art, articles and letters of comment to many zines from 1966-68 including Web Spinner, Splash Page, Weirdom, Trumpet, Bombshell, Men of Mystery and Spectre to name a few. As always, there were too many conflicting activities to go to all. Of course, I was at the show to find obscure old fanzines & there weren't too many vendors selling them. However, I ended up buying $600 worth of old fanzines from Terry Stroud (American Comic Book Co). I must say that Terry is a very interesting person ... sort of like a throwback to the hippy era. He had not fully set up until Friday afternoon a full 2 days after the show started. While disorganized, Terry gave the greatest deals. He was REALLY fair. For example, I picked up a copy of Sense of Wonder #2 & 5 in Fine condition for an unbelievable price (see below)!! I bought over 60 zines from him in all, mostly old ditto & mimeograph stuff. Top items: The Comic World (Jennings) 1-3 ($125), Sata 1 ($50 in Fine +) & Sata 6 ($40) Sata 7 ($35), Sense of Wonder 2 & 5 ($20 for both in great shape!!!), Action Hero 1, 4, 5, 6 ($60 for all!!), Weirdom 9 ($30), Comic Comments 1-2 ($20), Fighting Hero Comics 7 ($15), Dangling Conversation 4 ($10) and Dual Identity 3 ($10). He also sold an incredible amount of crudzine types for $5-8 each. Terry can be found in the Overstreet Price Guide. For those of you that are interested, Al Stolz at the Basement Comix booth had copies of Rocket's Blast 7-9, 11-26 and other very choice fanzines! And not a one of them for less than $75 each. Too expensive for me - I had to pass, even though I was tempted. If any of you are interested, contact Al at http://basementcomix.com/. Anyone else go to the show? -Aaron- From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 05 20:09:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25937 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 03:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2002 03:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 03:09:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2002 03:09:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Aug 2002 03:09:47 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Aug 2002 03:07:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26064 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 03:07:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2002 03:07:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 03:07:53 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.1a8.6419e52 (4362) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a8.6419e52.2a809783@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 23:07:47 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Let me welcome you as well, Chris! You've got a great core of 'zines to start a collection with -- no wonder you've got the bug! Russ Maheras From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Aug 06 08:15:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Aug 2002 15:15:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 83395 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 15:15:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2002 15:15:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 15:15:23 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.ab.201d91cb (4214) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:15:18 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/5/02 7:06:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, acaplan@paceworldwide.com writes: > By the way, did anyone make it to Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego last week? > Yes, the Ditko panel was excellent, especially when they brought around the large original art to the splash page for "Demon Sword" from EERIE magazine. The Frazetta panel had an extensive group of clips (top notch) from the documentary being released late this year on Frank. The high point for me was the Ray Bradbury/Julius Schwartz panel when they brought out Al Feldstein, who had never met Bradbury before and who choked up when describing how privileged he'd felt to be able to adapt Ray's stories to comics all those years ago.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 20:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84871 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:56 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 02:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 49239 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 02:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 02:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:52:33 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.141] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 02:52:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:52:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 850 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Aaron, Thanks for the welcome! Dang dude! Sounds like you really had a blast at the San Diego Con. I'd love to go to it one year. I had no idea that Gene Simmons was so involved in fanzine activity. I have a copy of Trumpet 7 with his Lion(?) artwork in it and it makes sense as Kiss has always been courting comics and even gave their blood for a comic in the 70's. Interesting Feldstein story. Cosummate professional, Al is. Thanks for the pricing information. I would think this would be the most important info we could post. With very little pricing information available, sharing what we actually pay for our stuff could be valuable to all of us. Chris of-no-last-name (I kinda like that) The things I want to know are in books; my best friend is the man who'll get me a book I ain't read. --Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) From rmaheras@aol.com Tue Aug 06 20:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3378 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:56 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 6 Aug 2002 15:47:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 71620 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 15:47:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2002 15:47:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 15:47:19 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.48.f7d15f7 (15863) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m30.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-0806114710; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:47:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:47:10 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: <120BC7C1.362EDD17.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:15:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jimvanhise writes: >>Yes, the Ditko panel was excellent, especially when they brought around the large original art to the splash page for "Demon Sword" from EERIE magazine.<< Wow, Jim! That was a great story, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Didn't Ditko use a great wash shading technique for that one? Also -- did anyone record the panel that you are aware of? Russ Maheras From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 20:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61651 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:56 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 02:33:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 85556 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 02:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 02:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:33:57 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.177] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 02:33:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:33:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <50.f79a386.2a806153@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 640 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Thanks Steven, Quiet is okay with me but as I am new to fanzines as well as this group, I'm gonna try to pick everybody's brains 'til I can at least give the appearance of having some knowledge. Case in point: I just recently found out that RBCC is back in business again! How does this new version measure up? Worth the money? > I take it you are in the Charlotte NC area? Asheboro, actually. Kinda in the center of Charlotte/Greensboro/Winston-Salem area. Chris with-no-last-name (like dances with wolves, maybe?) heh. You mean like a book? --Justin Timberlake of N Sync - on what he read this year that he most liked From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 20:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 33817 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:00:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:00:56 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 02:56:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 56729 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 02:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 02:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:56:05 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 02:56:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:56:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1a8.6419e52.2a809783@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 410 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 > Let me welcome you as well, Chris! You've got a great core of '>zines to start > a collection with -- no wonder you've got the bug! > > Russ Maheras Thanks Russ! I hope to pick your brain as well once I get up to speed. ( I still have to read all the old posts) Chris of-no....okay,okay it's Wallace just havin some fun. heh. Choose your friends like your books, few but choice. --American Proverb From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 20:08:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94300 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:08:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:08:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:08:45 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 66399 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:03:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:03:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:03:33 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.151] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:03:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:03:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 498 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 >...privileged he'd felt to be able to adapt Ray's stories to comics all those > years ago.--James Van Hise Okay. Didn't take me long to stick my foot deeply in my mouth. (see my previous post about the worthiness of new RBCC.) Well James, seems you might have an opinion on that one! Sorry. I'm new. ahem. I'll go now. Chris Wallace Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. --Clive James From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Aug 06 20:09:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1865 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.172] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:09:15 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 30266 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26449 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2002 03:07:13 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 26409 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:07:12 -0000 Received: from roswell0075.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.75) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:07:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3D508DCD.6010004@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:02:37 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker chalwa10766 wrote: >Case in point: I just recently found out that RBCC is back in >business again! >How does this new version measure up? Worth the money? > It's a different feel than the old RBCC, but James still puts out a very interesting, high-quality zine. His scholarship is solid and the production value is high, with nice art spread throughout. I consider it well worth the price. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Aug 06 20:09:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79631 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.172] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:09:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:09:16 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:07:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 61381 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:07:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:07:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:07:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3397 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2002 03:09:11 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 3361 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:09:10 -0000 Received: from roswell0075.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.75) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:09:10 -0000 Message-ID: <3D508E43.2080100@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:04:35 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker chalwa10766 wrote: >RBCC#'s 36,38,40,44,47,48,50. RBCC Special#1,3,5. >RBCC annual#1 >K-a#6 (with one-page non-stapled flyer for issue 7.) >Alter-Ego #4(NM and white as snow) 9,10. >Golden Age #1 >Star Spangled #4(most of these items still have Sam's >subscription address tag on them!) >AND the dittoed 'Secrets behind All-Star Comics' by none other >than Jerry Bails. > A nice selection, indeed! Welcome aboard, he of the first name of Chris! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Aug 06 20:14:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51787 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:14:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.152] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:14:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:14:35 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17309 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 22605 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2002 03:15:09 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 22569 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:15:09 -0000 Received: from roswell0075.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.75) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:15:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3D508FA9.9030105@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:10:33 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker chalwa10766 wrote: >Okay. >Didn't take me long to stick my foot deeply in my mouth. (see my >previous post about the worthiness of new RBCC.) >Well James, seems you might have an opinion on that one! >Sorry. I'm new. >ahem. >I'll go now. > Heh heh. Yeah, but James is a *tad* biased! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Aug 06 20:21:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 62500 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:21:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.134] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:21:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 03:21:25 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:17:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 21155 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:17:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6499 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2002 03:19:28 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 6306 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:19:26 -0000 Received: from roswell0075.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.75) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:19:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3D5090AA.8000307@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:14:50 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > The high point for me was >the Ray Bradbury/Julius Schwartz panel when they brought out Al Feldstein, >who had never met Bradbury before and who choked up when describing how >privileged he'd felt to be able to adapt Ray's stories to comics all those >years ago.--James Van Hise > *Great* story! Wow - can't believe they'd never met before! One of the highlights of my high school years was listening to Ray give his annual talk at The Manuscripters Club in Manhattan Beach, CA when I was about 16 (that would've been 1975). Ray was one of my gods, the writer whom I'd most wanted to be like, and to actually listen to him give writing advice and shake his hand afterwards was just incredible. What an amazingly down-to-earth fellow he is. I'm kicking myself that I couldn't make it to SD this year! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From tpstewart@aol.com Tue Aug 06 21:10:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 04:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 68083 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 04:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 04:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 04:10:02 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.19b.687f5dd (2519) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19b.687f5dd.2a81f785@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:09:41 EDT Subject: OT EC Libraries To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 From: tpstewart@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Hey Listers! Back from San Diego, and still looking for stuff! I'm looking for the Kurtzman EC Library hardback sets: Two Fisted Tales, Frontline Combat, and, of course, Mad. If you have any to sell, or know of a store that has some, please let me know the price and condition. Thanks! Tom Stewart. From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Aug 06 21:25:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 04:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15609 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 04:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 04:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 04:25:22 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.ba.2a10df7f (3699) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:25:18 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/6/02 8:01:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: > Wow, Jim! That was a great story, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Didn't > Ditko use a great wash shading technique for that one? Also -- did anyone > I believe Comicon videotaped all of their panels. I only audiotaped the Ray Bradbury panel and the Robert E. Howard panel.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Aug 06 21:43:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 04:43:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 45631 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 04:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 04:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 04:43:37 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.126.14d1130c (3699) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <126.14d1130c.2a81ff6e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:43:26 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/6/02 8:11:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: > It's a different feel than the old RBCC, but James still puts > out a very interesting, high-quality zine. His scholarship is solid > and the production value is high, with nice art spread throughout. > I consider it well worth the price. It's different because (without intending to) I've written most of the material in the first 3 issues. Issue #3 is the first one with written material by other contributors (although issue #2 has a comic strip written by the artist, Dave Hoover). I also don't have all the columns the old RBCC had, but it's still basically the same kind of mag I was doing in the 1970s. -- JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 21:49:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54186 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 04:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 04:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 04:49:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 04:49:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 04:49:47 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:25:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 90914 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:25:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:25:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:25:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:25:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:25:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D508E43.2080100@zianet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1408 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 >AND the dittoed 'Secrets behind All-Star Comics' by none other > >than Jerry Bails. > A nice selection, indeed! Welcome aboard, he of the first > name of Chris! > Lyle Tucker Thanks Lyle! I can tell you guys have a terrific amount of pooled knowledge amongst you. So, brain-picking time. The above-mentioned Jerry Bails article is driving me bonkers. I'm trying to place it. It is stapled once in the upper left with no other staple holes anywhere. This makes it seem the article is a piece by itself having not been stapled into the regular body of a fanzine. I've read a reprinted version somewhere recently but cannot for the life of me remember where. (New Alter Ego, perhaps?) I even emailed Jerry Bails himself and he said: ''The Secrets of All-Star Comics'' sounds like my contribution to CAPA-alpha (K-a), the first comics amateur press association. If it has drawings showing the evolution of Kubert's Hawkman, then that's what it is. It is all covered rather thoroughly in Roy Thomas's recent publication All-Star Companion. Roy identifies the source. My memory is that it was about issue number 5 or 6 of K-a, but that's a guess." I have issue 6 but is this where it actually came from? Was it an insert? Help! of first name Chris of last name Wallace I have fallen in love a thousand times in my lifetime. All which have been with books --Unknown From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Tue Aug 06 21:49:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75940 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 04:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 04:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 04:49:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 04:49:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 04:49:52 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 03:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 74250 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 03:30:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:30:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D5090AA.8000307@zianet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 325 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.115.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 > give his annual talk at The Manuscripters Club in Manhattan Beach, > CA when I was about 16 (that would've been 1975). > Lyle Tucker Whoa! I didn't know you guys were so OLD! (Just teasin') Heh. Chris Youngman...er, Wallace Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this it the ideal life. --Mark Twain From ditko37@sympatico.ca Wed Aug 07 00:40:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 07:40:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16642 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 07:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 07:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.189) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 07:40:36 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.96.212]) by tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020807073939.JQOH1418.tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 03:39:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3D50CE02.7C3DE50C@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:36:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: <120BC7C1.362EDD17.0079F8E7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan rmaheras@aol.com wrote: >> Yes, the Ditko panel was excellent, especially when they brought around the >> large original art to the splash page for "Demon Sword" from EERIE magazine. > > Wow, Jim! That was a great story, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Didn't > Ditko use a great wash shading technique for that one? Also -- did anyone > record the panel that you are aware of? Thanks for the kind words, Jim. That DEMON SWORD splash page was just plain handed to me by generous Mike Theobedoux (sp?). I photocopied like crap, due to the GORGEOUS wash work, so Mike just said "here, take this $7500 page to the panel" (!) What a guy! It is my quest to make the panel available on my web site as a streaming video, or something to that effect. Marc Svensson said the camera he shot from only capture the full panel static shot, but Sam Catalino captured the first 45 mins from the first row with plenty of close-ups, so perhaps Marc will splice those two together for something worth remembering. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From ditko37@sympatico.ca Wed Aug 07 00:47:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 07:47:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 90271 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 07:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 07:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.40) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 07:47:05 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.96.212]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020807074626.QOJK19270.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 03:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3D50CF87.62A03641@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:43:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan acaplan@paceworldwide.com wrote: > By the way, did anyone make it to Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego last week? > It was a blast! I attended Blake Bell's Ditko tribute and it was an > excellent session - cudos to you Blake for a well rounded, passionate panel > (including Blake as moderator, John Romita Sr, Gary Groth, Batton Lash and > Paul Smith) and great audience participation. It was one of the better > attended panels also. Thanks for the kind words, Aaron. And yes, that Bradbury/Feldstein moment was chilling. I JUST walked in as Feldstein started to get emotional. Very moving. There should be some VERY exciting Ditko news coming everybody's way from me by September 1st. Ya won't believe it. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From srowecanoe@aol.com Wed Aug 07 03:08:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 10:08:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4815 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 10:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 10:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 10:08:44 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.45.1b572894 (16930) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 06:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45.1b572894.2a824ba6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 06:08:38 EDT Subject: Grass Green RIP To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Taken from the Charlton Yahoo mailing list comes this sad news: In a message dated Tue, 6 Aug 2002 8:29:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, mikeargo@flash.net writes: > Hello Everyone, > > I'm very sorry to have to tell you that Grass Green > passed away today about 5:00 pm. His wife Janice was > kind enough to call to give me the news. She asked > that I tell Grass's friends and fans. > > A little less than a year ago, Grass was diagnosed > with lung cancer. Recently, it was determined that the > disease had spread to his liver, and he knew that his > time was probably very limited. > > It's very hard to accept that we'll no longer have any > new comics from Grass...but thankfully, he created a > body of work with Xal-Kor, Wildman and many other > comic strips, that will always be able to entertain > and uplift us. > > Janice said the last services for Grass will be this > Thursday. Anyone who wishes to express condolences can > write to: > > Janice Green > PO Box 13181 > Fort Wayne, IN 56867 > > Or, she may still receive email at: > GrassGreen@bigplanet.com. > > Speaking for myself, Grass and I had become especially > close in the past few years, and even moreso in the > past six months. I have to say that I really felt that > he was one of the finest human beings I've been > privileged to know--though of course, I felt much the > same about Howard Keltner, Ronn Foss. G. B. Love and > Landon Chesney, who all left us much too soon. > > Best regards, > Bill Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Aug 07 07:15:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55654 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 14:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 14:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 14:15:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lyletucker@zianet.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 14:15:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 14:15:27 -0000 X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 13:22:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 53837 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 13:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 13:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 13:22:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13393 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 2002 13:24:13 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 13379 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 13:24:12 -0000 Received: from roswell0047.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.47) by zianet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 13:24:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3D511E61.4030500@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 07:19:29 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: <3D50CF87.62A03641@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Blake Bell wrote: >There should be some VERY exciting Ditko news coming everybody's >way from me by September 1st. Ya won't believe it. > Lemme guess, Blake: Steve was actually the one who created Captain America? ;-D -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From rmaheras@aol.com Wed Aug 07 07:15:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79064 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 14:15:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 14:15:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 14:15:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: RMaheras@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 14:15:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Aug 2002 14:15:28 -0000 X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 13:30:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 92205 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 13:30:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 13:30:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 13:30:22 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.11e.148311cd (15901) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.130]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0807093020; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:30:20 2000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:30:20 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Grass Green RIP Message-ID: <163537AC.2D04A626.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Very sad news. He was such a talented, energetic person. He'll be missed. Russ Maheras From rmaheras@aol.com Wed Aug 07 08:42:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 15:42:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 95280 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 15:42:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 15:42:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 15:42:06 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.55.2b603cf8 (15898) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d04.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.68]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINID91-0807114201; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:42:01 2000 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:42:08 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ditko news; was re: Comic-Con Int'l Message-ID: <3D343736.20656FE8.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Wed, 7 Aug 2002 8:19:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Blake Bell writes: >>There should be some VERY exciting Ditko news coming everybody's way from me by September 1st. Ya won't believe it<< Let me guess -- Steve is going to be on Larry King Live, opposite Stan Lee. Gosh, wouldn't THAT be a wild and intellectually stimulating show! Russ Maheras From LyleTucker@zianet.com Thu Aug 08 06:57:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 8 Aug 2002 13:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 48578 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 13:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2002 13:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 13:57:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20466 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 13:59:31 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 20441 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2002 13:59:31 -0000 Received: from roswell0057.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.57) by zianet.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 13:59:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3D52787D.4080609@zianet.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:56:13 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Grass Green RIP References: <45.1b572894.2a824ba6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker That's a shame. I never knew him, but did enjoy his work when I ran across it, and throughout the years it became obvious through everyone who did know him that he was quite a fella. Gads, it's sobering how many of *us* seem to be dying off these days. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Thu Aug 08 07:02:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 8 Aug 2002 14:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24534 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 14:02:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Aug 2002 14:02:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 14:02:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6065 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 14:03:58 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 6008 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2002 14:03:57 -0000 Received: from roswell0057.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.57) by zianet.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 14:03:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3D527986.40901@zianet.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:00:38 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chalwa10766 wrote: >>give his annual talk at The Manuscripters Club in Manhattan >>Beach, CA when I was about 16 (that would've been 1975). >>Lyle Tucker >> > >Whoa! >I didn't know you guys were so OLD! >(Just teasin') >Heh. > Heh heh. Actually, I prefer "ancient" as at least it seems to denote an accumulation of wisdom. "Old" just sounds so broken down (if closer to the truth!). >Chris Youngman...er, Wallace > Illegitimate son of Henny? -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Aug 09 17:34:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 10 Aug 2002 00:34:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 62068 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2002 00:34:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2002 00:34:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2002 00:34:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14184 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 2002 00:36:22 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 14132 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Received: from roswell0110.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.110) by zianet.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2002 00:36:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3D545F48.7040303@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 18:33:12 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: If You Put Out a Fanzine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Folks, I'm putting together a Digizine (a Fanzine on CD) that will focus on Pop Culture, but mainly on Comics, Movies, and Music. It'll be called NOT BRAND ACK! and it will contain columns on World Comics (Mike Kidson); Religion and Popular Culture (Peter Wallace); Newspaper Strips (Arthur Lortie); Side-by-side political/social dissertations (Mark Luebker and Cory!! Strode); Satire, and Whacked-out Comics/Movies (Rolf Gerdau); Movie Reviews (Chuck Minsker); Music Reviews (James Cassara, Mone Peterson, Jim Pertierra, Steve Whitaker, and others); The Australian Scene (Mark Cannon, Mark Muller); The Greek Scene (Costas Paximadas). I hope to have an article ruminating about his time as THE TOADIES' drummer by Mark Reznicek. A partial SGT. FURY Index will be provided by Ron Frantz. There will be articles and art retropsectives on Dick Ayers, Russ Maheras, Tony Gleeson, Nigel Kitching, James Romberger, Bob Rivard, Dave Rawlins. And (hopefully) more. THE THING I WOULD NOW LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THIS: If you are currently putting out *any* kind of fanzine and would like it reviewed in my zine, quickly post off the latest (or last couple of latest) issue(s) to: Lyle Tucker, Box 1756, Roswell, NM, 88202-1756. I hope to have the digizine out in October, so if you'd like to be included, be quick. Thanks! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Fri Aug 09 19:45:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26716 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2002 02:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2002 02:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2002 02:45:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2002 02:45:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 10 Aug 2002 02:45:24 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 9 Aug 2002 14:37:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13889 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2002 14:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2002 14:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 14:37:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2002 14:37:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:37:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Old guys Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D527986.40901@zianet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 473 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chalwa10766" X-Originating-IP: 24.199.167.76 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 >Chris Youngman...er, Wallace > Illegitimate son of Henny? > Lyle Tucker You realize of course that by making a Henny Youngman reference you have blown any speculation as to your true ancientness (ancientism?). We're in the sam boat however as I AM a Henny Youngman fan, too. Pass the insure. heh. Chris I asked my wife, "Where do you want to go for our anniversary?" She said, "Somewhere I have never been!" I told her, "How about the kitchen?" -Henny Youngman From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Aug 10 19:37:50 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 11 Aug 2002 02:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 34462 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 02:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2002 02:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 02:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4599 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 2002 02:39:50 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 4513 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2002 02:39:48 -0000 Received: from roswell0011.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.11) by zianet.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 02:39:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3D55CDB4.6070104@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:36:36 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Old guys References: From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chalwa10766 wrote: > Illegitimate son of Henny? >Lyle Tucker > > >You realize of course that by making a Henny Youngman reference you have blown any >speculation as to your true ancientness (ancientism?). > Take my Depends, please. >We're in the sam boat however as I AM a Henny Youngman fan, too. > Having grown up in Southern California during the '60s and '70s, when it came to comedy, my brothers and I were more into the George Carlin/Cheech & Chong brands of comedy. However, one of my brothers happened to see Henny Youngman live, and to this day, he swears Henny is the funniest human alive. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From solitairerose@msn.com Sun Aug 11 22:33:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: solitairerose@msn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 12 Aug 2002 05:33:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 38119 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 05:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2002 05:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) (207.46.181.79) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 05:33:31 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([67.24.71.24]) by cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:32:34 -0700 Message-ID: <009101c241c1$ae88f520$18471843@oemcomputer> To: References: <1029122689.93.92263.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 247 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:32:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Return-Path: solitairerose@msn.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 05:32:35.0133 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9B266D0:01C241C1] From: "solitairerose" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=71464316 X-Yahoo-Profile: roseseule > Having grown up in Southern California during the '60s and > '70s, when it came to comedy, my brothers and I were more into > the George Carlin/Cheech & Chong brands of comedy. However, > one of my brothers happened to see Henny Youngman live, and > to this day, he swears Henny is the funniest human alive. He is wrong, of course... Best comedian no longer living? Bill Hicks, and everyone since has made a very nice living ripping him off. Living? Steven Wright, hands down is the wittiest, most intelligent and FUNNIEST person to get on a stage. It's too bad he doesn't do a lot of stand up anymore, because he's an amazing talent who could literally do the same jokes for the rest of his life, not think up a single new line and STILL make me laugh every time I see him. Cory!! Strode, the Best Dressed Man In Comics www.solitairerose.com I'm not the one on trial here! From magnus@io.com Mon Aug 12 20:50:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26729 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: magnus@io.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:11 -0000 X-Sender: magnus@io.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 12 Aug 2002 16:55:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 94754 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2002 16:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2002 16:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sm14.texas.rr.com) (24.93.35.41) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 16:55:18 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (cs2875-162.austin.rr.com [24.28.75.162]) by sm14.texas.rr.com (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id g7CGvAum003152 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:57:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: magnus@mail.io.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <009101c241c1$ae88f520$18471843@oemcomputer> References: <1029122689.93.92263.m12@yahoogroups.com> <009101c241c1$ae88f520$18471843@oemcomputer> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:52:38 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 247 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: bruce lanier wright X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2296471 X-Yahoo-Profile: perkypat523 >Best comedian no longer living? Bill Hicks, and everyone since has made a >very nice living ripping him off. In particular, Dennis Leary seems to owe his entire pathetic persona to Bill. In a watered down form, of course. Bruce W. -- From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Mon Aug 12 20:50:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37048 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Aug 2002 03:50:12 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 13 Aug 2002 03:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 96838 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 03:31:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 03:31:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.southeast.rr.com) (24.93.67.83) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 03:31:38 -0000 Received: from mail5.triad.rr.com (fe5 [24.93.67.52]) by smtp2.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7D3VGu8029770 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [24.31.115.1] ([24.31.115.1]) by mail5.triad.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:30:39 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:30:00 -0400 Subject: goin' back To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1029122689.93.92263.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Chris Wallace X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 So uh... no one have an answer to my original question? I t'ought youse guys was geeeniuses or sumpin' Chris The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense --Mark Twain From sconn@usit.net Mon Aug 12 21:21:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: sconn@usit.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 13 Aug 2002 04:21:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 89877 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 04:21:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 04:21:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.181) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 04:21:40 -0000 Received: from [216.80.217.232] (helo=ScottConner) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17eTBa-0006My-00 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:21:39 -0700 Message-ID: <002401c24280$f32e7370$e8d950d8@ScottConner> To: References: <1029122689.93.92263.m12@yahoogroups.com> <009101c241c1$ae88f520$18471843@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 247 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:21:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: "Scott Conner" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2121156 X-Yahoo-Profile: hankejank ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce lanier wright" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 247 > >Best comedian no longer living? Bill Hicks, and everyone since has made a > >very nice living ripping him off. > > In particular, Dennis Leary seems to owe his entire pathetic persona > to Bill. In a watered down form, of course. > > Bruce W. Bill Hicks was indeed the man. Dennis is somewhat derivative , but in an age when someone lied to Chris Kattan and told him he was funny, Dennis is a welcome relief ;-) --Scott-- From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Aug 13 00:18:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 13 Aug 2002 07:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12481 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 07:18:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2002 07:18:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 07:18:11 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by www.teknetwork.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7D7IAc07619 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:18:10 -0500 Received: from [204.77.185.53] (fre-53.ppp.teknetwork.com [204.77.185.63]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7D7I8907612 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:18:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1029217638.800.51820.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1029217638.800.51820.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:18:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics > >Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:30:00 -0400 > From: Chris Wallace >Subject: goin' back > >So uh... >no one have an answer to my original question? >I t'ought youse guys was geeeniuses or sumpin' > >Chris > >The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense >--Mark Twain What was the question? robert --=20 Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG UPDATE v36 #3 Summer 2002-OUT NOW! **Lots of Vintage Comic Books, Pulps, BLB,s etc*** **North America people ask me for your Free Copy** ************************************************** Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ************************************************** Moderator: Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group (Co-Moderators: Doug Wheeler & Leonardo De S=E1) Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips at: http://www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/PlatPics Most all roads seem to lead back to Rudolphe T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. - From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense --Mark Twain From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Aug 16 14:11:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 16 Aug 2002 21:11:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 75347 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2002 21:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2002 21:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 21:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15796 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 2002 21:13:42 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 15243 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2002 21:13:35 -0000 Received: from roswell0046.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.46) by zianet.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 21:13:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3D5D6A2F.80405@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:10:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , saga , wood , music , plat , fanzine-l Subject: SCANAMANIACS returns (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker SCANAMANIACS is a list much like this one, but devoted to comic book scanning. We share scanning techniques and other scanning related in- formation amongst ourselves, as well as scans themselves. If you have an interest in this area, give me a holler and I'll sign you up. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From lesterdent@hotmail.com Wed Aug 21 20:12:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13788 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 03:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: lesterdent@hotmail.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:29 -0000 X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 22 Aug 2002 01:55:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 78234 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 01:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 01:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 01:55:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2002 01:55:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 01:55:42 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Howdy! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3370 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:28 -0000 I just discovered this site a few days ago and I'm glad I did! Maybe I can answer a couple questions and I certainly have a couple to ask! Let me ask, first: Does anyone know "whatever happened to" Paul LeGrazie, Jr.? He lived in Scarsdale c. 1968-73 and published a number of comic strip zine featuring his own art (mostly) (Titles: "Journey Into Comics", "PLG Comics"). along with so many others, he gaffiated in 1973 or so and I always wondered if he published more throughout the 70s or what. You know, zine publishers come and go in the public eye, and few quit publishing entirely). In a similar fashion, anyone know if Brad Foster, publisher of many zines in the 70s-early 80s (including "Fever Pitch") is still publishing? Any info at all? I'm just sort of curious since, as my personal situation waxed and waned through the years, I would get a lot of zines for a period, then get very few, back and forth----and it's easy to lose track of people. (Sort of sad, that, isn't it?) Let me answer at least one implied question from an earlier posting: Steve Keeter does indeed live in Orlando and has become really active in self publishing during the last 2 years---and some of you might like to order some of his many zines. He and Jim Main--another name in self publishing during the late 80s and early 90s--re-formed Carl Gafford's old cooperative, Blue Plaque Publications, and both have produced quite a few zines, and the other newer and younger members have also put out several each under the BPP banner. (BPP is like an apa without the cenbtral mailer---everyone produces one or more zines and sends them to each other independently). One member is Carl's own brother, Sam. (Carl, I understand, is currently in CAPA-Alpha (again!)). In a day or two, I'll post the addresses for Jim Main's personal; website, Steve Keeter's personal website, and the BPP group website so those of you who want to see new stuff can check them out. (If you like the "good news" sort of info, Skeet's daughters are now teenagers and producing zines themselves, heavily influenced by anime-styled cartoons like "Sailor Moon". Just thought I'd throw that in). I'll also certainly mention THIS place on the group page I started myself this last March, since I guarantee a lot of the group page members would go ga-ga over some of the info here...a couple in particular are trying to buy old zines on e-bay and would love to have access to more. I just got a letter two days ago from Chuck Robinson, who published "Comique" c. 1968-72. He plans to start pubbing that title again, this time aided by his son Ben. He didn't specify exactly when, but implied it would be soon. For all I know, he has issues of his old zine, but I can't say for sure. He'd love this site too, since he was part of the old zine cycle that included "Bombshell, the Ama-Zine" and others. Reading some of the posts brought back fond memories of those days when you'd send a quarter or a buck and wait impatiently for a thick mimeoed zine to arrive in the mail with all that cool info and art that no one else seemed to care about offering....there were no Archives and no professional "fanzines" then. (Wellll--we DID have "Castle of Frankenstein" with some great articles and art...and "Screen Thrills Illustrated"...but you know what I mean. From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Wed Aug 21 20:12:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67692 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 03:12:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cwallace2@triad.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.164] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:58 -0000 X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 15 Aug 2002 04:27:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 62054 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2002 04:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2002 04:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.southeast.rr.com) (24.93.67.84) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 04:27:03 -0000 Received: from mail4.triad.rr.com (fe4 [24.93.67.51]) by smtp3.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7F4Qnga026796 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [24.31.115.1] ([24.31.115.1]) by mail4.triad.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:27:02 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:26:23 -0400 Subject: Secrets of 'Secrets..' To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1029312885.353.52691.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Chris Wallace X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 22 Aug 2002 03:12:57 -0000 > What was the question? > robert I think I'm losing it. I was sure I had posted this especially since I even asked Jerry about it. I looks like I'm getting old too! This was what I sent to Jerry Bails in referece to the 'Secrets behind All-Star Comics' article I mentioned in my first post: "...the dittoed 'Secrets behind All-Star Comics' by none other than Jerry Bails. My question is where did the 'Secrets...' article come from? It's stapeled in the upper left once and hasn't any other holes which leads me to believe it wasn't attached to a fanzine." Jerry wrote: ''The Secrets of All-Star Comics'' sounds like my contribution to CAPA-alpha (K-a), the first comics amateur press association. If it has drawings showing the evolution of Kubert's Hawkman, then that's what it is. It is all covered rather thoroughly in Roy Thomas's recent publication All-Star Companion. Roy identifies the source. My memory is that it was about issue number 5 or 6 of K-a, but that's a guess. If you mention your interest in old fanzines on the GCD-Chat list, you may find listers willing to scan some old stuff for you. I hate to think what one has to pay for these old things. " How true! The article does have the pics Jerry mentioned but as it is stapled in only one place(upper left, kinda sideways like an old high school test) I am at a loss to place how it could have been attatched. Couldn't find it in Roy's book, but I'm going to check again. Was it an extra? Anyone have this? Thanks Chris Raiding an Englishman's fridge is like dating a nun: You're never gonna get the good stuff. --Whistler, opening Giles' refrigerator From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Aug 22 03:50:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 22 Aug 2002 10:50:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 75182 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 10:50:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 10:50:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 10:50:41 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.fd.1c9f1dec (4116) for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:50:36 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Secrets of 'Secrets..' To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/21/2002 11:13:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cwallace2@triad.rr.com writes: > My question is where did the 'Secrets...' article come from? It's stapeled > in the upper left once and hasn't any other holes which leads me to believe > it wasn't attached to a fanzine." > hmm, and i could have sworn i answered this too.... is there any reason to think it was not part of CAPA-alpha like Jerry recalls? stapled once in the upper left sounds right for one of those KA zines. steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mvhaas@elpaso.net Thu Aug 22 18:05:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 01:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27269 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7N15DRg031682 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:05:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1030062167.494.38347.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1030062167.494.38347.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:58:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Brad Foster Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder "chasmithalpha" wrote: > In a similar fashion, anyone know if >Brad Foster, publisher of many zines in the 70s-early 80s (including >"Fever Pitch") is still publishing? Any info at all? I'm just sort of >curious since, as my personal situation waxed and waned through the >years, I would get a lot of zines for a period, then get very few, back >and forth----and it's easy to lose track of people. (Sort of sad, that, >isn't it?) Purely by coincidence, Steve Ogden put together a massive (and I mean 376 pages massive!) index to Brad W. Foster's work and ran it through CAPA-Alpha this month. Foster is still active with Jabberwocky Graphics and can be reached at PO Box 165246, Irving, TX 75016. And yes, Carl Gafford is a member of K-a, along with 38 other people and 21 waitlisters. Comic fandom's oldest apa (est. 1964) is still churning out monthly issues. And you fail to introduce yourself. I seem to remember a Charles M. Smith from the Minneapolis area from the early 1970s. How's my memory? best -- Merlin Haas From mvhaas@elpaso.net Thu Aug 22 18:05:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 01:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 65171 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7N15DRi031682 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:05:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1030062167.494.38347.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1030062167.494.38347.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:05:12 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Secret of Secrets Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder Chris wrote: >My question is where did the 'Secrets...' article come from? It's stapeled >in the upper left once and hasn't any other holes which leads me to believe >it wasn't attached to a fanzine." > CAPA-Alpha zines are collated and stapled in the upper left corner by each member and sent to the Central Mailer who assembles and staples the zines into 100-150 page sections. Your copy of Secrets is probably just an extra copy that Jerry sent to someone who wasn't a member of CAPA-Alpha, which explains why it doesn't have any extra staple holes. best -- Merlin Haas From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Aug 22 18:13:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 01:13:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 84181 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 01:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 01:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 01:13:08 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.9.) id r.16d.12948896 (4116) for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <16d.12948896.2a96e61a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:12:58 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Charles M. Smith To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/22/2002 9:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mvhaas@elpaso.net writes: > And you fail to introduce yourself. I seem to remember a > Charles M. Smith from the Minneapolis area from the early 1970s. > How's my memory? > would this be the same Charles M, Smith who wrote comics for Charlton and was a member of K-a? steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Thu Aug 22 18:47:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 01:47:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 51134 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 01:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 01:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 01:47:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19999 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2002 01:49:42 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 19974 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2002 01:49:42 -0000 Received: from roswell0093.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.93) by zianet.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 01:49:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6593F6.5020504@zianet.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:46:30 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Howdy! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker chasmithalpha wrote: > Does anyone know "whatever happened to" Paul >LeGrazie, Jr.? He lived in Scarsdale c. 1968-73 and published a number >of comic strip zine featuring his own art (mostly) (Titles: "Journey >Into Comics", " > Hi, Charles, and welcome to the group. I have no idea what happened to Paul, I'm sorry to say, but for those who were unfamiliar with his work, I'm posting these URLs to some pages from JOURNEY INTO COMICS #1. The fun thing with Paul was trying to pin down who he was swiping from, as he would often mix companies/artists within a single strip (in this one, f'instance we get both some Wally Wood MENTHOR and John Romita DAREDEVIL swipes - a lot of fun! I also love the "DESTINED to be One of Fandom's Favorites!"). http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/JIC_001.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls1.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls2.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls3.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls4.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls5.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/bulls6.jpg -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From lesterdent@hotmail.com Fri Aug 23 04:05:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 11:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 70622 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.181] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Brad Foster Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 287 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Yup, Mer. Charlie T. Smith. We were also together in Ka about 1989 or so too, I believe. Good to see some old names around. (And I'm flattered that anyone remembered...mostly I've just been an inactive "lurker" in the fanzine area...just ordering and reading other people's zines). From lesterdent@hotmail.com Fri Aug 23 04:09:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 11:09:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 72065 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 11:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 11:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 11:09:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.182] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 11:09:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:09:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Charles M. Smith Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <16d.12948896.2a96e61a@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 404 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Yeah! Someone else who recognizes my name. Though how you got "M" for my initial is a trivial, but interesting question!! (Not really--you no doubt confuse me with Charles M.(!) Schulz, right? An understandable mistake! He was rich, world famous, creative, and a hardworker, and came from St. Paul. Just like him, I....well, er, I...ummm--well, I live in St. Paul. So the confusion is inevitable.) From lesterdent@hotmail.com Fri Aug 23 04:15:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 62308 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:15:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Howdy! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D6593F6.5020504@zianet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 846 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Bless your heart, Lyle! You can't believe what nostalgia swept over me looking at those old pages! Wow. It just makes me want to publish stuff, just to try to recapture the enthusiastic fun putting out and just reading those old zines brought back then. I suppose those thrilling emotions are beyond recovery since we're all so knowledgable and, well, jaded, at our age....but it sure was nice to see Paul's art again. Back then, I didn't know about swiping. Would you believe it? I didn't understand the concept. I actually though Paul and other fans were simply so impressed by various artists that they assimilated styles. that happens when you draw and fall under the sway of a Wally Wood or Frazetta. It wasn't until years later that I understood some people would try to use actual panels for inspiration to their own art. From mossjolly@yahoo.com Fri Aug 23 06:51:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93964 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 13:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:39 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 22 Aug 2002 14:55:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 26629 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 14:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2002 14:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 14:55:02 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.161] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2002 14:55:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:55:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanks to Charlie Smith Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 254 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.19.129 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:38 -0000 ...I just discovered this site, how did you guys keep it hidden for so long?! Wow, great to be here, now I have to go back and read over the previous 1000+ posts (but it's a noble cause, so no problem!). --steve keeter From mossjolly@yahoo.com Fri Aug 23 06:51:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94458 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 13:51:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:57 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 12:16:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 25138 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 12:16:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 12:16:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 12:16:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 12:16:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:16:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Charles M. Smith Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 583 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.25.51.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 23 Aug 2002 13:51:57 -0000 Who is Charlie Smith? Never heard of 'im. --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "chasmithalpha" wrote: > Yeah! Someone else who recognizes my name. Though how you got "M" for > my initial is a trivial, but interesting question!! (Not really-- you no > doubt confuse me with Charles M.(!) Schulz, right? An understandable > mistake! He was rich, world famous, creative, and a hardworker, and > came from St. Paul. Just like him, I....well, er, I...ummm--well, I > live in St. Paul. So the confusion is inevitable.) From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Aug 23 07:23:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 14:23:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 56895 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 14:23:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 14:23:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 14:23:14 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.9.) id r.11d.15ca1c40 (5709) for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m03.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.131]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID42-0823102306; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:23:06 2000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:23:06 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: <1F5FAFAF.78B0716D.0C38BCAA@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Welcome to Steve Keeter !! I actually have met Steve (and I think may have spent the night in his house) way back in the late 1970s or so, when he was living near Greenville, NC. If my foggy brain is correct, he had some Gene Day comic book art in his files that he pulled out and let us marvel out..... Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Aug 23 11:35:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 18:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20376 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 18:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 18:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 18:35:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 18:35:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:35:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D50CF87.62A03641@sympatico.ca> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2493 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "ninthnebula10" X-Originating-IP: 165.121.32.116 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Come on come on we wanna know now. Tell us some exciting Ditko news! (I bought two Ditko pages in San Diego). (Hooray finally I again own a Ditko). San Diego Comic Con was too big. It took me 3 days to get through the Dealer's room. (Arriving by 2;00 p.m. on Thurs. due to a big accident on the freeway that probably panic-ed a few dealers). Sadly I skipped Sunday. Got to fewer panels than usual. Costume competition was ok. Stood between McFarlane (as he was leaving the Eisner awards) and Mark Evanier as he was returning to view them. I did not think it was well attended. But the room was big enough for 4000 (100 across). I also wasted too much time trying to find places to park on Fri. and Sat. After all was said and done I wanted it to last about another week. Fewer dealer's tables (for comics) I thought. Paced myself and had a good time. Next year I get a closer motel. Nuff said? http://graphic-illusion.com http://www.paper-mountain-comics.com Rob from Kent, WA Hey maybe next time I'll catch the Ditko Panel... Didn't S.D. use to broadcast these sort of events right to Hotel rooms? --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Blake Bell wrote: > > acaplan@p... wrote: > > By the way, did anyone make it to Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego last week? > > It was a blast! I attended Blake Bell's Ditko tribute and it was an > > excellent session - cudos to you Blake for a well rounded, passionate panel > > (including Blake as moderator, John Romita Sr, Gary Groth, Batton Lash and > > Paul Smith) and great audience participation. It was one of the better > > attended panels also. > > Thanks for the kind words, Aaron. And yes, that Bradbury/Feldstein > moment was chilling. I JUST walked in as Feldstein started to get emotional. > Very moving. > There should be some VERY exciting Ditko news coming everybody's > way from me by September 1st. Ya won't believe it. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : > http://www.ditko.comics.org > * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : > http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org > * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : > http://www.ess.comics.org > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ > http://www.snyder-ditko.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Aug 23 12:16:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 19:16:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 52629 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 19:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 19:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 19:16:13 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.120.14f59248 (16484) for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <120.14f59248.2a97e3fa@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:16:10 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/23/02 11:36:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ninthnebula10@yahoo.com writes: > Hey maybe next time I'll catch the Ditko Panel... > Didn't S.D. use to broadcast these sort of events right to Hotel > Yes, back in the El Cortez days. Now I'm told they don't even videotape them, although they'll let anyone else tape them who wants to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Fri Aug 23 17:12:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 24 Aug 2002 00:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 73744 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2002 00:12:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2002 00:12:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2002 00:12:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2002 00:12:35 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:12:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <120.14f59248.2a97e3fa@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 736 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "ninthnebula10" X-Originating-IP: 165.121.35.93 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633 X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 They should broadcast and record them (the two panels I went to they told people to turn off their cameras (what are they afraid of? Success? Freedom? Fun?). Hey it was good seeing you there even though it was just for minutes. Best, Rob --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > In a message dated 8/23/02 11:36:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > ninthnebula10@y... writes: > > > > Hey maybe next time I'll catch the Ditko Panel... > > Didn't S.D. use to broadcast these sort of events right to Hotel > > > > Yes, back in the El Cortez days. Now I'm told they don't even videotape them, > although they'll let anyone else tape them who wants to. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sat Aug 24 06:34:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30452 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2002 13:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:44 -0000 X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 14:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 39824 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 14:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 14:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 14:35:09 -0000 Received: from business (dial48hy2.ncweb.com [216.28.64.48]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7NEXHY13972 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:33:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: Younger Zinesters Welcome? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:34:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1F5FAFAF.78B0716D.0C38BCAA@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:42 -0000 Followed Jim Main, Steve Keeter, and Charles Smith this way from the BPP group. So far, this is like watching Jim Pack get re-introduced to Tim Corrigan and Larry Blake at this years SPACE show. You can feel the energy!! Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: srowecanoe@aol.com [mailto:srowecanoe@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:23 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Welcome to Steve Keeter !! I actually have met Steve (and I think may have spent the night in his house) way back in the late 1970s or so, when he was living near Greenville, NC. If my foggy brain is correct, he had some Gene Day comic book art in his files that he pulled out and let us marvel out..... Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From wdewald@mannatech.com Sat Aug 24 06:35:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 82890 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2002 13:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: WDewald@mannatech.com Received: from [66.218.67.143] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:59 -0000 X-Sender: WDewald@mannatech.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 14:39:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10967 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 14:39:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 14:39:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO exchange.Mannatech-Inc.Com) (207.243.183.202) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 14:39:40 -0000 Received: by exchange.mannatech-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: <2CFA6AFA766ED31195BC00609763FE47083E96F1@exchange.mannatech-inc.com> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Great group Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:39:38 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "DeWald, Wayne" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=52208485 X-Yahoo-Profile: midgetguy671 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Aug 2002 13:34:56 -0000 Thanks to Gary Brown I just discovered the group=97great to see some old familiar names! Looking forward to future posts. Wayne DeWald From mossjolly@yahoo.com Sat Aug 24 06:35:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 990 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2002 13:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:09 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 15:03:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 97886 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 15:03:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 15:03:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 15:03:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 15:03:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:03:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1F5FAFAF.78B0716D.0C38BCAA@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1453 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.19.252 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:08 -0000 Hello, Steve Rowe! Yes, I remember meeting you more than once, I believe, in those days-- when Charles Lawrence was putting together those Greenville Comic Book Cons (I remember them well, 'cause I was in charge of purchasing those cheap Winn-Dixie Colas and selling them for, like, 50 cents each... you could get a whole 6-pack for a buck). The Gene Day artwork I still have. I was going to return the originals to him, but he suddenly died... so here they still sit. That story, Gene's "It Waits!", was published in my zine MANTRA #4, in 1979. The issue is sold out, but I'll be happy to repint it and send copies free to anyone who might be interested (I read the queries, earlier on this board, about Gene Day work of the late '70s). Just let me know, and send me a PO Box or address. Oh, and I have a website, if anyone's interested, at http://groups.msn.com/HappyFaceProductions Great to be on board with all you creative folk! --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., srowecanoe@a... wrote: > Welcome to Steve Keeter !! > I actually have met Steve (and I think may have spent the night in his house) way back in the late 1970s or so, when he was living near Greenville, NC. > If my foggy brain is correct, he had some Gene Day comic book art in his files that he pulled out and let us marvel out..... > > > Steven Rowe > SRoweCanoe@a... From a_graphics_wizard@yahoo.com Sat Aug 24 06:35:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 87665 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2002 13:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: a_graphics_wizard@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.182] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:20 -0000 X-Sender: a_graphics_wizard@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 23 Aug 2002 16:45:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 76165 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 16:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2002 16:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 16:45:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.152] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2002 16:45:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:45:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Howdy! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 176 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "a_graphics_wizard" X-Originating-IP: 65.239.251.32 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=56001740 X-Yahoo-Profile: a_graphics_wizard X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Aug 2002 13:35:20 -0000 Brad Foster wrote me an e-mail about a year ago. He got married. I can't remember if he was still publishing or not. I contributed a few pieces to his publications years ago From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Sun Aug 25 05:25:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 12:25:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 29999 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 12:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 12:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.southeast.rr.com) (24.93.67.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 12:25:06 -0000 Received: from mail8.triad.rr.com (fe8 [24.93.67.55]) by smtp3.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7PCOlga017821 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [24.88.196.165] ([24.88.196.165]) by mail8.triad.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:25:05 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:24:20 -0400 Subject: Mystry solved! To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1030150357.394.81529.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Chris Wallace X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 > Your copy of Secrets > is probably just an extra copy that Jerry sent to someone who wasn't > a member of CAPA-Alpha, which explains why it doesn't have any extra > staple holes. > > best -- Merlin Haas Thanks! Chris From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Aug 25 05:56:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 12:56:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 43875 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.8b.1d056c8e (4426) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8b.1d056c8e.2a9a2dfc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:56:28 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Mystry solved! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Your copy of Secrets > > is probably just an extra copy that Jerry sent to someone who wasn't > > a member of CAPA-Alpha, which explains why it doesn't have any extra > > staple holes. > some of the early CAPA-alphas were also sent without central staples so all contributions would be loose. steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Aug 25 07:09:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 14:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13301 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 14:09:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 14:09:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 14:09:32 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.6f.2ca21cc0 (4410) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f.2ca21cc0.2a9a3f16@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:09:26 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wish we could get Jim Pack, Tim Corrigan, nad Larry Blake to join these fanzine groups. I think they would have so much to offer as far as reminiscies of the mid-70s. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Aug 25 07:16:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 14:16:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 83974 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 14:16:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 14:16:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 14:16:08 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.127.15e639c4 (4410) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <127.15e639c4.2a9a40a3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:16:03 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great to have you aboard, Steve! I have a large collection of fanzines (some of them your's) although I've never really had the opportunity to meet you. I would like to have a copy of everything you published! If I recall, you published quite a bit of material. I'm a member of another fanzine group called UltraZine in the Yahoo groups. We have several people in the group you might know like Matt Bucher, Dave Heath, Jr., Willie Peppers, Filthy McNasty, Jason Sacks, Jim Bertges, Carr D'Angelo, and many others. It's great to hear from you again. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Aug 25 07:20:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 14:20:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 85373 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.191.c207ddf (4410) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <191.c207ddf.2a9a41ae@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:20:30 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Howdy! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad Foster is still publishing. I received one of his lists of available fanzines from his Jabberwocky Press in the mail recently. He will send you one if you e-mail him at: jabberwocky2000@hotmail.com I wish he had a website, but when I last heard from him, he said it was something he was working on. Good luck. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Aug 25 07:43:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 14:43:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 60013 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 14:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 14:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 14:43:27 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.85.2051166d (657) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <85.2051166d.2a9a4707@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:43:19 EDT Subject: Insanity? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a poser. Someone came up to me at a convention recently asking about a fanzine called INSANITY. There were apparently a dozen or so issues published in the 60s or 70s and it was a Mad magazine fanzine. He said that it had been his all time favorite 'zine but I'd never heard of it and I heard of a lot of off-tail 'zines back in the 70s people many were sent to me for review at the RBCC. Anyone?--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mvhaas@elpaso.net Sun Aug 25 14:04:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 21:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 50379 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 21:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 21:04:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 21:04:14 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7PL4BRg028125 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:04:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1030307322.122.22185.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1030307322.122.22185.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:04:11 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] K-a loose contribs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder >> >>some of the early CAPA-alphas were also sent without central staples >> so all contributions would be loose. >> >>steven rowe Without checking my copies, I think everything was stapled together when Jerry Bails and Don & Maggie Thompson were Central Mailers. I think sending everything separate came in the middle of Fred Patten's CM-ship about 1968 or 69. Gary Brown went back to the stapled-sections about 1973 when he had trouble with the local post office for sending the separate contribs Book Rate. best -- Merlin Haas (telling you way more than you need to know...) From rmaheras@aol.com Sun Aug 25 15:52:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 22:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 52847 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 22:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 22:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 22:52:33 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.68.24a42a6d (3850) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <68.24a42a6d.2a9ab9aa@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:52:26 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Hi Steve! It's been a while -- something like 10 years! I still look back fondly at my three-year tenure in the UFO. Hope all has been well for you and yours! Welcome aboard! Russ Maheras From rmaheras@aol.com Sun Aug 25 16:03:35 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 23:03:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 27028 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 23:03:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 23:03:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 23:03:32 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.f6.204b1175 (3850) for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:03:27 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Insanity? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Never heard of it. I had a copy or two of the 1950s comic of the same name, but never ran across a Mad Magazine fanzine with that monniker. Russ Maheras From lesterdent@hotmail.com Sun Aug 25 16:09:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 23:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 44540 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 23:09:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 23:09:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 23:09:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.173] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2002 23:09:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:09:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Howdy! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1085 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha It's great to hear he's still around, if not publishing stuff these days (although as you said he might be publishing--I'll just have to see what I can find out). Personally, I like to hear about long-lost fans just to see how they're doing. I'm sure all of you, at one time or another, in a quiet moment thought "Say, I wonder what happened to old so-and-so". Sometimes you hear bad news much too late, as when I just found out recently that Bill Rotsler died way back in 1997; and sometimes, like with Steve Keeter for some of you, you happily find out that he's not only alive and well, but still producing! (I encourage you all to visit his webpage(s) and also the BPP webpage to catch up on what several "old" fans are still doing....and just cause if you like fanzines, you can see some of what's going on currently). Remember that series of books from the 1970s titled "Whatever Happened to...?"---wouldn't it be great to have something like that for fans? I'm not saying it's a project that CAN be done, realistically---just that it would be neat to have it! From lesterdent@hotmail.com Sun Aug 25 16:14:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 23:14:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 51264 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 23:14:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 23:14:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 23:14:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2002 23:14:46 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:14:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6f.2ca21cc0.2a9a3f16@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 747 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Have you been getting the zines Tim Corrigan has been producing the last few months? He's shifted, for now, into producing a sort of newsletter of personal info and events, and it's much more fun reading than even his comic strip zines, in my as-always-ever-so-humble opinion. However, he seems to have a reluctance to get on the internet (and who can say he's wrong?)...but like so many others, hearing about groups like this might just induce him to get his toes in the water and try it. Someday. Meanwhile, he's easily reached thru the mail for anyone who's interested; I don't have an address right now near me, but the always-informative font of fannish info, Steve Keeter, must have it at his very fingertips even as I type this! From lesterdent@hotmail.com Sun Aug 25 16:18:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 23:18:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 90260 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 23:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 23:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 23:17:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.139] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2002 23:17:30 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:17:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <127.15e639c4.2a9a40a3@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 391 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha George, if you ask him, he'll no doubt post the url to his webpage where Steve discusses quite a bit of fan history. And he even has a second generation of zinesters coming up, his daughters who put out THEIR own zine and have a webpage too. If I know Steve, he's wayyy too shy to do so without prompting though--so Steve, let these other people know where they can see your stuff. From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 05:48:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92332 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 01:29:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 91959 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 01:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 01:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 01:29:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 01:29:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:29:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 958 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.18.221 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:12 -0000 You betcha. Tim Corrigan's address is: PO Box 25/ Houghton, NY 14744. --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "chasmithalpha" wrote: > Have you been getting the zines Tim Corrigan has been > producing the last few months? He's shifted, for now, into > producing a sort of newsletter of personal info and events, and > it's much more fun reading than even his comic strip zines, in my > as-always-ever-so-humble opinion. However, he seems to have > a reluctance to get on the internet (and who can say he's > wrong?)...but like so many others, hearing about groups like this > might just induce him to get his toes in the water and try it. > Someday. Meanwhile, he's easily reached thru the mail for > anyone who's interested; I don't have an address right now near > me, but the always-informative font of fannish info, Steve Keeter, > must have it at his very fingertips even as I type this! From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 05:48:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32894 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 01:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 96255 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 01:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 01:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 01:26:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.172] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 01:26:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:26:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <127.15e639c4.2a9a40a3@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1747 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.18.221 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:11 -0000 So that's where Dave Heath, Jr. went! I wondered... I'll have to check out the UltraZine group. For the zines I have currently available, check out my website at http://groups.msn.com/HappyFaceProductions The only way I can reprint my oldest zines is to take out the staples and copy from the original copies. I was doing this for awhile, but the wear and tear on the older issues was breaking my heart, so I stopped. Although, I may be willing to copy SOME of them (the ones that I have multiple copies of... although certain issues are pretty rare-- even for me-- I only have one copy of OM #3, and 2 copies of OM #1 for instance, both zines from the early to mid 1970s). Ah, it's great to have a large collection of small press comics and fanzines dating all the way back to the late 1960s. I think there's as much sentimental value to such a collection, if not more so, than to a pro comics collection. Thanks for welcoming me aboard! It's great to be here! --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > Great to have you aboard, Steve! I have a large collection of fanzines (some > of them your's) although I've never really had the opportunity to meet you. > I would like to have a copy of everything you published! If I recall, you > published quite a bit of material. I'm a member of another fanzine group > called UltraZine in the Yahoo groups. We have several people in the group > you might know like Matt Bucher, Dave Heath, Jr., Willie Peppers, Filthy > McNasty, Jason Sacks, Jim Bertges, Carr D'Angelo, and many others. It's > great to hear from you again. > > George Lane > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Aug 26 05:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 76753 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 10:44:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 58518 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 10:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 10:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 10:44:37 -0000 Received: from business (dial26hy2.ncweb.com [216.28.64.26]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QAgdY20775 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:42:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:43:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <6f.2ca21cc0.2a9a3f16@aol.com> Importance: Normal From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:12 -0000 Jim Pack I have an e-mail address for, and will send info about this group to. He was into reminiscing when I talked him into going to the space show so maybe I can talk him onto the group. Larry Blake and Tim Corrigan both are computerless with no sign of intention of joining the computer age soon. Especially Larry, he seems dead set against it. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: KINGGEO3@aol.com [mailto:KINGGEO3@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:09 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? I wish we could get Jim Pack, Tim Corrigan, nad Larry Blake to join these fanzine groups. I think they would have so much to offer as far as reminiscies of the mid-70s. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 05:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80160 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: mossjolly@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 01:16:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29943 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 01:16:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 01:16:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 01:16:42 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 01:16:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:16:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <68.24a42a6d.2a9ab9aa@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 482 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.18.221 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:11 -0000 Hi, Russ! Old fanzine people never die, they just, er, go off for awhile and then start fanzinin' again! Great to see you're still kickin' too, any publishing plans? --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., rmaheras@a... wrote: > Hi Steve! > It's been a while -- something like 10 years! I still look back fondly at my > three-year tenure in the UFO. Hope all has been well for you and yours! > > Welcome aboard! > > Russ Maheras From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Aug 26 05:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80172 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 12:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:14 -0000 X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 11:00:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 59362 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 11:00:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 11:00:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 11:00:24 -0000 Received: from business (dial26hy2.ncweb.com [216.28.64.26]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QAwRY27391 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 12:48:12 -0000 I just got a mid-mag sized COMIC from Tim, with a Steve Keeter/Larry Blake strip in it. IMA MAN #1 is $2.00+postage from Tim's NEW VOICE MEDIA at: P.O. Box 25/ Houghton, NY 14744. It's also got a never-before published Mightyguy strip by Tim. So there's your contact info, folks. Tell Tim I sent ya!! Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: chasmithalpha [mailto:lesterdent@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 7:15 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Have you been getting the zines Tim Corrigan has been producing the last few months? He's shifted, for now, into producing a sort of newsletter of personal info and events, and it's much more fun reading than even his comic strip zines, in my as-always-ever-so-humble opinion. However, he seems to have a reluctance to get on the internet (and who can say he's wrong?)...but like so many others, hearing about groups like this might just induce him to get his toes in the water and try it. Someday. Meanwhile, he's easily reached thru the mail for anyone who's interested; I don't have an address right now near me, but the always-informative font of fannish info, Steve Keeter, must have it at his very fingertips even as I type this! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 26 06:27:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 13:27:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 30992 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 13:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 13:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 13:27:45 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.15a.130c7f8b (5709) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.70]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID42-0826092730; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:29:33 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Message-ID: <2868B9EA.789541C3.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Ian Shires wrote: >>I just got a mid-mag sized COMIC from Tim, with a Steve Keeter/Larry Blake<< Hey, Ian! Another UFO guy I used to know! I still have all my small press 'zines from the 1980s -- including yours! Russ Maheras From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 26 06:48:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 13:48:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 98623 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 13:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 13:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 13:48:02 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.7d.2c682bbd (15898) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d12.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.76]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID91-0826094759; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:47:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:48:43 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Computerless publishers; was Re: Younger... Message-ID: <5E8248BD.1C4CA39A.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Mon, 26 Aug 2002 5:43:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ian@dimestoreproductions.com writes: >>Larry Blake and Tim Corrigan both are computerless with no sign of intention of joining the computer age soon. Especially Larry, he seems dead set against it.<< In 1992, while I was still in the Air Force, I had to cross-train from an electronic maintenance career field to public affairs. PA in the Air Force involves the communication of both internal and external information, and because the internal information side of the house includes publishing base newspapers, part of my training included journalism and desktop publishing. I had been involved with computers since about 1980, but when I discovered the joys of computerized "desktop" publishing in 1992, brother, I've NEVER looked back! You can HAVE those days of cutting, pasting, corrections, sizing illustrations and photos, etc.!!! Maelstrom #7 and 8 were both done completely with desktop publishing, and are, I believe, the best 'zines I've ever published. The only drawbacks? Getting started will probably cost the neo-desktop publisher at least $1,000 for a computer, scanner, printer and software. If that's an issue, than it's best to stick to the old-fashioned way of doing 'zines. Russ Maheras From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Aug 26 06:49:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 13:49:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 62475 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 13:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 13:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 13:49:43 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.1ab.762390b (3972) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1ab.762390b.2a9b8bf1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:49:37 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great, Ian! Thanks for the information! I'll get some money and a letter off to Tim immediately! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Aug 26 07:01:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 74862 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 13:33:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 58673 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 13:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 13:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 13:33:22 -0000 Received: from business (65fndial45.ncweb.com [216.28.65.45]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QDVVY18609 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:31:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2868B9EA.789541C3.0079F8E7@aol.com> From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:21 -0000 Russ, Would you believe I just put out my first new issue of Dungar in seven years? #48. #49 is almost done, then I'm planning on starting to do some full size comic issues of the series. So what are YOU up to these days? Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: rmaheras@aol.com [mailto:rmaheras@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:30 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? Ian Shires wrote: >>I just got a mid-mag sized COMIC from Tim, with a Steve Keeter/Larry Blake<< Hey, Ian! Another UFO guy I used to know! I still have all my small press 'zines from the 1980s -- including yours! Russ Maheras To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Aug 26 07:01:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55839 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:01:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:00:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15256 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:00:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:00:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:00:27 -0000 Received: from business (65fndial45.ncweb.com [216.28.65.45]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QDwSY37062 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Computerless publishers; was Re: Younger... Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5E8248BD.1C4CA39A.0079F8E7@aol.com> From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Aug 2002 14:01:22 -0000 I do all my publishing on the computer, that includes comics, magazines, fliers, anything. Couldn't do what I do without it. Can't imagine going back to the days of taping artwork in place to take to the print shop. Print it all right off on my Lexmark X83 and boom, it's an issue. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: rmaheras@aol.com [mailto:rmaheras@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:49 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Computerless publishers; was Re: Younger... In a message dated Mon, 26 Aug 2002 5:43:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ian@dimestoreproductions.com writes: >>Larry Blake and Tim Corrigan both are computerless with no sign of intention of joining the computer age soon. Especially Larry, he seems dead set against it.<< In 1992, while I was still in the Air Force, I had to cross-train from an electronic maintenance career field to public affairs. PA in the Air Force involves the communication of both internal and external information, and because the internal information side of the house includes publishing base newspapers, part of my training included journalism and desktop publishing. I had been involved with computers since about 1980, but when I discovered the joys of computerized "desktop" publishing in 1992, brother, I've NEVER looked back! You can HAVE those days of cutting, pasting, corrections, sizing illustrations and photos, etc.!!! Maelstrom #7 and 8 were both done completely with desktop publishing, and are, I believe, the best 'zines I've ever published. The only drawbacks? Getting started will probably cost the neo-desktop publisher at least $1,000 for a computer, scanner, printer and software. If that's an issue, than it's best to stick to the old-fashioned way of doing 'zines. Russ Maheras To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Aug 26 07:10:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8932 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:10:21 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.71.248afabc (3972) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <71.248afabc.2a9b90b2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:09:54 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/26/02 7:49:25 AM US Eastern Standard Time, mossjolly@yahoo.com writes: > http://groups.msn.com/HappyFaceProductions > > Great site, Steve! It's definitely on my favorites list now! I have a copy of OM #4, but that's the only one I own! :( I believe you had some Larry Blake work in that issue! Great stuff! I'm sure the guys in the UltraZine group would love to hear from you. We post about fanzine stuff in that group more than any other group I belong too. The art files on the home page are pretty cool too! Thanks for the link to your site. I'll pass it on the the guys. Catch you later! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Aug 26 07:20:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:20:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 15323 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:20:44 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.10d.170a4b8c (3972) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10d.170a4b8c.2a9b932f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:20:31 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Younger Zinesters Welcome? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10571 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's too bad to hear about Tim and Larry's relunctance to computerize their world. Discovering computers has changed my entire life by bringing me closer together to old lost fanzine friends and has given me fantastic access to new fanzine friends. There is so much to share with others, that I can't imagine missing out on this now! If you have an address for Larry Blake, please share it with me. I'd like to write him. I haven't seen him since a late "70s Springfield, OH SpringCon! Good luck getting Jim Pack to join us! That would be great too! That entire Ohio gang must be doing something! Mitch Sonada, Larry Nibert, and Topper Helmers! I really enjoyed the Fanzine '76s and '77s they produced! I could never get my hands on a copy of Fanzine '75 though! THanks for the stroll down memory lane! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 26 07:22:38 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:22:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 36031 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.33) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:22:38 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.39.2c3ce818 (16097) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID111-0826102231; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:22:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:22:31 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: What's up? Was re: Younger Zinesters Welcome? Message-ID: <5CDAFC7B.10B5DF80.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Ian Shires wrote: >>Would you believe I just put out my first new issue of Dungar in seven years? #48. #49 is almost done, then I'm planning on starting to do some full size comic issues of the series. So what are YOU up to these days?<< I've got something like the first 30 or so issues of Dungar the Barbarian. So you haven't done an issue in seven years, eh? Well, considering I've only published eight issues of Maelstrom in 28 years, who am I to say anything? Ha! In 1999, I published Maelstrom #7 -- the 25th anniversary issue. In July of this year I published Maelstrom #8, which included the first-ever index of the first 400 issues of The Buyer's Guide for Comic Fandom. I also did a cover for Comics Buyer's Guide about a-year-and-a-half ago. That's about it in the area of fan-related stuff (if you don't count my CAPA-alpha contribs every three months or so -- I've been a member since about 1990)! Russ Maheras From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Aug 26 07:27:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 36007 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.139] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:27:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <71.248afabc.2a9b90b2@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1024 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 64.156.211.8 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Thanks for the kind comments, much appreciated. All you have is OM #4? E-mail me a PO box or home address, and I'll send you some free comics (OM #9 has just been out for a week). --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > In a message dated 8/26/02 7:49:25 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > mossjolly@y... writes: > > > > http://groups.msn.com/HappyFaceProductions > > > > > > Great site, Steve! It's definitely on my favorites list now! I have a copy > of OM #4, but that's the only one I own! :( I believe you had some Larry > Blake work in that issue! Great stuff! I'm sure the guys in the UltraZine > group would love to hear from you. We post about fanzine stuff in that group > more than any other group I belong too. The art files on the home page are > pretty cool too! Thanks for the link to your site. I'll pass it on the the > guys. Catch you later! > > George > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Aug 26 07:41:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 14:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14148 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 14:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 14:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 14:41:43 -0000 Received: from business (65fndial45.ncweb.com [216.28.65.45]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7QEdlY66378 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] What's up? Was re: Younger Zinesters Welcome? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5CDAFC7B.10B5DF80.0079F8E7@aol.com> From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it would be a good time to mention that I have been listing information about every single small press anything I can find on my website, go in and type a few names in the search and see what pops up! Russ, or anyone here, if you've got something new you want reviewed in my magazine, Obscurity Unlimited, or back issue info about things you have published you'd like added to the website for people to know what you've done.e-mail me at OU@dimestoreproductions.com Let me know what you all think of my work so far. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: rmaheras@aol.com [mailto:rmaheras@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:23 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] What's up? Was re: Younger Zinesters Welcome? Ian Shires wrote: >>Would you believe I just put out my first new issue of Dungar in seven years? #48. #49 is almost done, then I'm planning on starting to do some full size comic issues of the series. So what are YOU up to these days?<< I've got something like the first 30 or so issues of Dungar the Barbarian. So you haven't done an issue in seven years, eh? Well, considering I've only published eight issues of Maelstrom in 28 years, who am I to say anything? Ha! In 1999, I published Maelstrom #7 -- the 25th anniversary issue. In July of this year I published Maelstrom #8, which included the first-ever index of the first 400 issues of The Buyer's Guide for Comic Fandom. I also did a cover for Comics Buyer's Guide about a-year-and-a-half ago. That's about it in the area of fan-related stuff (if you don't count my CAPA-alpha contribs every three months or so -- I've been a member since about 1990)! Russ Maheras To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 26 08:48:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 26 Aug 2002 15:48:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 47416 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2002 15:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Aug 2002 15:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 15:48:47 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.8c.1d2a18e1 (15899) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d11.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.75]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID92-0826114833; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:48:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:46:25 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What's up? Was re: Younger Zinesters Welcome? Message-ID: <2C108A2C.04FC39DD.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Ian wrote: >>Russ, or anyone here, if you've got something new you want reviewed in my magazine, Obscurity Unlimited, or back issue info about things you have published you'd like added to the website for people to know what you've done.e-mail me at OU@dimestoreproductions.com<< OK, Ian! Thanks! Russ From lesterdent@hotmail.com Mon Aug 26 18:20:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 27 Aug 2002 01:20:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10606 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 01:20:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2002 01:20:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 01:20:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.190] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2002 01:20:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:20:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: K-a Membership List. Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 193 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha I was just wondering if anyone ever put together a list of K-a members that ever joined? Wouldn't it be interesting to browse down the list and just see how many names you can recognize? From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 26 20:29:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 27 Aug 2002 03:29:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 77236 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 03:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2002 03:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 03:29:07 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.44.250071e2 (18555) for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44.250071e2.2a9c4bf9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:28:57 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] K-a Membership List. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Actually, Merlin Haas did, and it appeared in one of the CAPA-alpha (K-a) anniversary issues (I think the 30th anniversary issue of K-a in 1994). The (huge) roster read like a who's who of comic fandom/prodom! Russ Maheras From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Aug 26 22:12:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 27 Aug 2002 05:12:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 60584 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 05:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2002 05:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 05:12:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 12646 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 2002 04:01:20 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 506 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 2002 00:53:16 -0000 Received: from roswell0056.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.56) by zianet.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 00:53:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6ACCC4.5020606@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:50:12 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Insanity? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Sorry, James, but I've never heard of it, either. -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From mvhaas@elpaso.net Tue Aug 27 17:18:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 28 Aug 2002 00:18:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2512 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 00:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2002 00:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 00:18:04 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7S0I0Rg005015 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:18:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1030489472.139.71386.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1030489472.139.71386.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:58:57 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:K-a membership list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder At 11:04 PM +0000 8/27/02, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > >Subject: Re: K-a Membership List. > >Actually, Merlin Haas did, and it appeared in one of the CAPA-alpha (K-a) >anniversary issues (I think the 30th anniversary issue of K-a in 1994). The >(huge) roster read like a who's who of comic fandom/prodom! > >Russ Maheras I originally did the membership list for the 25th anniversary mailing in 1989 and updated it in 1994 and again for the 400th mailing in 1998. I haven't done much with it since, except to note deaths (Howard Keltner, Ronn Foss, Bruce Pelz, Meade Frierson III, the list is too long.) I think I figured up once that well over 400 people have actually become members and another 75 or so joined the waitlist but never made the roster. I really should be working on another update, as the 40th anniversary will be coming up in a couple of years. best -- Merlin Haas From lesterdent@hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 23:38:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 28 Aug 2002 06:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 24980 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 06:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2002 06:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 06:38:05 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.167] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2002 06:38:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:38:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:K-a membership list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1429 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.30 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Now that you mention it, Merlin, I think I remember it. Wasn't that the issue that was so thick it came in a box? Not long after, my collection of Ka and other stuff was pretty much destroyed by repeated vandalism. I had a place in the country that I was trying to keep going but had to work in the city, so I still had my apartment, and I would go out to the country on weekends. Well, word got around to the locals and some of them kept breaking into the place, smashing through windows, using bolt cutters on locks. There wasn't much worth stealing, but they took anything they could find and threw it all around the yard, etc. (It changed my views on the "goodness" of country folk, since there must have been a LOT of neighbors who "didn't want to get involved" while this was happening multiple times!). Anyway, among the damages were almost all issues of K-a, including that anniversary issue; the stuff was just tossed around to destroy it all. And so, I sort of thought SOMEONE did a list of members---it tickled a memory---but I couldn't remember for sure. You SHOULD do a new one, darn it! That's gotta be a fun list to look over, since so many people have been members...and so many have disappeared or passed away, I'm sure. Think of it this way---that previous list, why...it dates from LAST CENTURY! (Please note how easy it is to volunteer someone else for a major research project!) From mvhaas@elpaso.net Wed Aug 28 18:55:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 01:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 86601 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 01:55:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 01:55:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 01:55:10 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7T1t6Rg001948 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:55:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1030584718.129.31407.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1030584718.129.31407.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:55:10 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: K-a membership list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:38:04 -0000 > From: "chasmithalpha" >Subject: Re:K-a membership list > > Now that you mention it, Merlin, I think I remember it. Wasn't >that the issue that was so thick it came in a box? Not long after, my >collection of Ka and other stuff was pretty much destroyed by >repeated vandalism. > And so, I sort of thought SOMEONE did a list of >members---it tickled a memory---but I couldn't remember for sure. > You SHOULD do a new one, darn it! That's gotta be a fun list to >look over, since so many people have been members...and so many have >disappeared or passed away, I'm sure. Think of it this way---that >previous list, why...it dates from LAST CENTURY! > (Please note how easy it is to volunteer someone else for a major >research project!) > K-a #300 (Oct/89) was 1,141 pages and was mailed in a box. That's still the record. The 30th anniversary mailing (Oct/94) was 933 pages. Note the wealth of totally useless information that I have at my fingertips. One nice thing about e-lists like this; whenever I do decide to update it I can run some names through and see if anyone knows what happened to them. I'll put it on my list of things to do... best -- Merlin Haas From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Aug 28 19:50:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 02:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 92235 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 02:50:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 02:50:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 02:50:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19127 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 2002 02:53:13 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 19009 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2002 02:53:10 -0000 Received: from roswell0182.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.182) by zianet.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 02:53:10 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6D8BD3.1020500@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:49:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: MAELSTROM #8 References: <5E8248BD.1C4CA39A.0079F8E7@aol.com> From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd've responded to this earlier, but I'd been bounced off of my Yahoo groups for a coupla days, so I'm behind: rmaheras@aol.com wrote: > Maelstrom #7 and 8 were both done completely with desktop publishing, and are, I believe, the best 'zines I've ever published. > I've yet to see #7 (I need to mail you the dough, Russ!) but I can safely say that MAELSTROM #8 is a fine fanzine, indeed! Not only does Russ include two *excellent* articles relating to 1) the reasoning behind the decline of comic sales, and 2) a rebuttal to The Comics Journal about the worth of superhero comics, but he includes an INVALUABLE index to the first coupla hundred issues of The Buyer's Guide for Comic Fandom! This alone is worth the price of admission! There's more to the issue, too, but these stand out. I recommend the issue heartily! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Aug 28 20:01:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 03:01:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14581 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 03:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 03:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:01:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 4441 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 2002 03:03:24 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 4426 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2002 03:03:23 -0000 Received: from roswell0182.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.182) by zianet.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:03:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6D8E37.9090006@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:00:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Howdy! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker chasmithalpha wrote: >Bless your heart, Lyle! You can't believe what nostalgia swept over me >looking at those old pages! Wow. > Heh heh. Glad they hit the right note, Charles. If I run across any other LeGrazie zines, I'll toss some more scans up. >It just makes me want to publish >stuff, just to try to recapture the enthusiastic fun putting out and >just reading those old zines brought back then. I suppose those >thrilling emotions are beyond recovery since we're all so knowledgable >and, well, jaded, at our age....but it sure was nice to see Paul's art >again. > I tend to think that us comic lovers suffer from Nostalgic yearnings more than most. Whereas it's true we'll never be 7 or 17 again and will never quite experience the original excitement comics can bring, there sure is something special about re-visiting those times via the mags we loved. I find that music does the same thing - I'd bought a CD the other day that I don't believe I'd heard since I was 16 (Barclay James Harvest, for those of you familiar with this fairly obscure group) and when the first few notes of the first song started up and the song kicked into gear, I truly had to fight to keep tears out of my eyes. It was a song and a sound I had *completely* forgotten about, and to re-hear it at age 43 was simply an overwhelming experience. I think we can experience the same thing with the printed page, too - Russ ran a scan of TBG #12 in MAELSTROM #8, and that cover was the first copy of TBG that I'd gotten in the mail - just seeing that pic again produced a strong nostalgic emotion! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Aug 28 20:09:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 03:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27549 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 03:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 03:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:09:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17676 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 2002 03:11:38 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 17494 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2002 03:11:36 -0000 Received: from roswell0182.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.182) by zianet.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 03:11:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6D9022.3070306@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:08:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ultrazine References: <71.248afabc.2a9b90b2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker KINGGEO3@aol.com wrote: > I'm sure the guys in the UltraZine >group would love to hear from you. We post about fanzine stuff in that group >more than any other group I belong too. > In regards to this, Geroge, could you ask Jason to sign me up for the Ultrazine group? I used to be on it but got unsubbed about a year ago when I was having computer problems. I'd appreciate it - thanks! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Aug 29 00:28:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 07:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 77074 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 07:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 07:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 07:28:53 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.181.d8e6540 (24895) for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 03:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <181.d8e6540.2a9f272f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 03:28:47 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: MAELSTROM #8 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why not give all of us the ordering info for MAELSTROM #7 & 8?--Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Thu Aug 29 06:28:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 13:28:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 71749 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 13:28:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 13:28:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 13:28:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8377 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 2002 13:31:02 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 8365 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2002 13:31:02 -0000 Received: from roswell0137.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.137) by zianet.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 13:31:02 -0000 Message-ID: <3D6E215B.6060403@zianet.com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:27:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: MAELSTROM #8 References: <181.d8e6540.2a9f272f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: >Why not give all of us the ordering info for MAELSTROM #7 & 8? > Um...because that would've made sense? I *knew* I was forgetting something! MAELSTROM #7 is available for $4 postpaid MAELSTROM #8 is available for $5 in Digest-sized form, $6 in 8 x 10 form. Here's a scan of Russ' cool cover: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/s_cover.jpg Send moolah to: Russ Maheras 144 Morgan Place Highwood, IL 60040 -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Aug 29 06:36:58 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 13:36:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 33344 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 13:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 13:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 13:36:57 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.aa.10ce5ef5 (16110) for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID122-0829093644; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:36:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:36:44 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: MAELSTROM #8 Message-ID: <4B81BFEC.3C042966.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 >>Why not give all of us the ordering info for MAELSTROM #7 & 8?--Jim Van Hise<< I can do that, Jim! Maelstrom #7 is $5 postpaid Maelstrom #8 (digest-size) is $5 postpaid Maelstrom #8 (magazine-size) is $6 postpaid If you order two both #7 and #8, deduct $2 from your total My address is: Russ Maheras 144 Morgan Place Highwood, IL 60040 From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Aug 29 06:41:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 13:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2687 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 13:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 13:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.33) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 13:41:08 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.25.2cddf7d5 (15863) for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m30.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-0829094105; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:41:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:41:05 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: MAELSTROM #8, Part Two Message-ID: <6F45367C.2EF977ED.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Thu, 29 Aug 2002 8:27:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: >>MAELSTROM #7 is available for $4 postpaid<< Oops -- Lyle's right! I typed my last e-mail while in pain -- about 15 minutes ago I burned two fingers on one of those glass coffee pots. Ouch! Russ Maheras From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Aug 29 08:33:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 15:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4419 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 15:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 15:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 15:33:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.164] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2002 15:33:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:33:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Jim Pack Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <10d.170a4b8c.2a9b932f@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1081 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "AIPman1" X-Originating-IP: 216.28.64.159 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Well, I've officially sent Jim Pack an e-mail inviting him in here. We'll see what happens. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > That's too bad to hear about Tim and Larry's relunctance to computerize their > world. Discovering computers has changed my entire life by bringing me > closer together to old lost fanzine friends and has given me fantastic access > to new fanzine friends. There is so much to share with others, that I can't > imagine missing out on this now! If you have an address for Larry Blake, > please share it with me. I'd like to write him. I haven't seen him since a > late "70s Springfield, OH SpringCon! Good luck getting Jim Pack to join us! > That would be great too! That entire Ohio gang must be doing something! > Mitch Sonada, Larry Nibert, and Topper Helmers! I really enjoyed the Fanzine > '76s and '77s they produced! I could never get my hands on a copy of Fanzine > '75 though! THanks for the stroll down memory lane! > > George > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Fri Aug 30 09:55:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 30 Aug 2002 16:55:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 72478 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 16:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2002 16:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 16:55:41 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.a.24529e0e (3964) for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:55:32 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ultrazine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No problem, Lyle. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Sep 02 05:39:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 12:39:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19543 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 12:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 12:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 12:39:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.167] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2002 12:39:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:39:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ultrazine Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 140 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.17.63 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly What's the url for the Ultrazines group? Been searching all over the place for that one... --stevekeeter From pack2@fuse.net Mon Sep 02 08:13:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71845 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 15:13:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 15:13:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 15:13:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pack2@fuse.net Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2002 15:13:00 -0000 X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 13:54:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 67156 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 13:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 13:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.79) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 13:54:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2002 13:54:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:54:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hello Dere. Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 468 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.44.219 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 02 Sep 2002 15:12:59 -0000 Ian Shires sent me this address. Glad to see there's finally a place for zineophiles to congregate. Pretty exclusive group here. Hi Everybody! Ian, where's my copy of the SPACE zine? It sure was nice seeing a bunch of you all at the con. I sure wish there was some way we could talk Tim and Larry into getting on line. When I spoke to them at the con, they were obviously negative about the whole computer thing. Oh well. Anyway, nice to find a place to go to. From ditko37@sympatico.ca Mon Sep 02 09:57:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 16:57:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15868 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 16:57:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 16:57:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.183) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 16:57:05 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.101.154]) by tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020902165546.GQAW23500.tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 12:55:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3D739856.8D8C4B54@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:56:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie!/Comic-Con Int'l in San Diego/ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan ninthnebula10 wrote: > Come on come on we wanna know now. Tell us some exciting Ditko news! > (I bought two Ditko pages in San Diego). (Hooray finally I again own > a Ditko). Check out my Ditko web site around September 15th. It will be the beginning of an avalanche, I suspect. What pages did you buy? > Hey maybe next time I'll catch the Ditko Panel... Silly boy, you missed the best panel of the show! Assuming there will be another is folly UNLESS people flood the Con's web site e-mail with requests... cciweb@nucgen.com I'm keeping my fingers crossed. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Mon Sep 02 12:15:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 19:15:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 46814 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 19:15:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 19:15:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 19:15:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.155] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2002 19:15:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 19:15:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Ultrazine Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 484 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jasonsacks.geo" X-Originating-IP: 4.65.10.159 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3129151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jasonsacks.geo We are at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UltraZine Please stop by and join in. We're a fun and informal group who tend to go off-topic more often than this group does. Hope you'll find us enjoyable, and if you have any questions, please email me. Thanks! - Jason Sacks --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "mossjolly" wrote: > What's the url for the Ultrazines group? Been searching all over the > place for that one... > --stevekeeter From jasonsacks@hotmail.com Mon Sep 02 12:16:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jasonsacks@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 2 Sep 2002 19:16:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 80059 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2002 19:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2002 19:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 19:16:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.129] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2002 19:16:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 19:16:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ultrazine Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3D6D9022.3070306@zianet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 676 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jasonsacks.geo" X-Originating-IP: 4.65.10.159 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3129151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jasonsacks.geo I just resubscribed you, Lyle. Welcome back! - Jason --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., lyletucker wrote: > KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > > > I'm sure the guys in the UltraZine > >group would love to hear from you. We post about fanzine stuff in that group > >more than any other group I belong too. > > > In regards to this, Geroge, could you ask Jason to sign me up > for the Ultrazine group? I used to be on it but got unsubbed about > a year ago when I was having computer problems. I'd appreciate > it - thanks! > > -- > Lyle Tucker > Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! > http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From pack2@fuse.net Mon Sep 02 19:56:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25204 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 02:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 02:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 02:56:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pack2@fuse.net Received: from [66.218.67.160] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 02:56:11 -0000 X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 38464 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:51:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Chat? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 144 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.31.222 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 03 Sep 2002 02:56:08 -0000 Does anyone get together on the Chat board? I'd be interested in knowing when everyone goes there? Love to talk to some of you in real time. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Sep 03 04:35:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 11:35:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 44504 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 11:35:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ncweb.com) (64.240.55.3) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 11:35:07 -0000 Received: from business (dial163hy2.ncweb.com [216.28.64.163]) by mail.ncweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g83BX2Y15716 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:33:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ian@dimestoreproductions.com) To: Subject: Jim Pack on the scene! Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:34:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal From: "Ian Shires" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim! Great to see you made it in here. About that issue: I still don't have your snail mail address, since I accidentally deleted my address book while upgrading my computer to Windows XP. Happy with the upgrade, sad about the forgetting to back up that file. Backed up enough to get MOST of my stuff back in order. Anyway..the jist of it is, I need your mailing address again. I'll send a request to you in your regular e-mail.but while the subject is up: anyone else out there that hasn't seen Obscurity Unlimited from this group that would like to see a copy: E-mail me your snail mail address and I 'll get one sent off to you! Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: thecomicist [mailto:pack2@fuse.net] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:55 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Hello Dere. Ian Shires sent me this address. Glad to see there's finally a place for zineophiles to congregate. Pretty exclusive group here. Hi Everybody! Ian, where's my copy of the SPACE zine? It sure was nice seeing a bunch of you all at the con. I sure wish there was some way we could talk Tim and Larry into getting on line. When I spoke to them at the con, they were obviously negative about the whole computer thing. Oh well. Anyway, nice to find a place to go to. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Tue Sep 03 05:55:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75242 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 12:55:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 12:55:33 -0000 X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 11:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 38561 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 11:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 11:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 11:24:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.151] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 11:24:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:24:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Chat? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 275 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jmain44" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 03 Sep 2002 12:55:33 -0000 ---Hey Jim-hope you'll be at the next SPACE show!!! Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > Does anyone get together on the Chat board? I'd be interested in > knowing when everyone goes there? Love to talk to some of you in real > time. From jmain44@aol.com Tue Sep 03 05:55:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 53598 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 12:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 12:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 12:55:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 12:55:43 -0000 X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 11:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 73126 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 11:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 11:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 11:18:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.175] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 11:18:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:18:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Greetings Pack-man! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 339 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jmain44" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 03 Sep 2002 12:55:43 -0000 Hey Jim, good to see you here, as well as Steve keeter and Ian Shires. I've been a member here for awhile too, until just recently I had a problem with one of those bouncing messages and had to cancell my membersip and then re-join all the groups I belonged to! What a pain THAT was. So, any plans on publishing in the future? Jimbo From rmaheras@aol.com Tue Sep 03 06:24:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 13:24:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 44682 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:24:48 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.80.20ede031 (16098) for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m19.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.135]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v88.20) with ESMTP id MAILINID112-0903092439; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:24:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:23:30 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Greetings Pack-man! Message-ID: <629629A3.0D639651.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Tue, 3 Sep 2002 6:18:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: >>Hey Jim, good to see you here, as well as Steve keeter and Ian Shires<< Jim Pack! Welcome aboard -- it's almost like a mini-UFO reunion! Russ Maheras From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Sep 03 06:40:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 13:40:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 60278 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 13:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 13:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:40:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12974 invoked by alias); 3 Sep 2002 13:43:14 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 12892 invoked by uid 0); 3 Sep 2002 13:43:12 -0000 Received: from roswell0033.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.33) by zianet.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:43:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3D74BBB9.90907@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:40:09 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Ultrazine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker jasonsacks.geo wrote: >I just resubscribed you, Lyle. Welcome back! > You da man, Jase! Thanks! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From mossjolly@yahoo.com Tue Sep 03 07:00:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 14:00:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 66872 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 14:00:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 14:00:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 14:00:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 14:00:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:00:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hello Dere. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 866 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mossjolly" X-Originating-IP: 67.25.49.120 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Jim Pack! Wow, where ya been man? Great to see you made your way over here (bless that Ian). Hey, if you'll e-mail your snail mail address to me, I have a number of zines that I can send you (you have some catching up to do, y'know). Any publishing plans? --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > Ian Shires sent me this address. Glad to see there's finally a place > for zineophiles to congregate. Pretty exclusive group here. Hi > Everybody! Ian, where's my copy of the SPACE zine? It sure was nice > seeing a bunch of you all at the con. I sure wish there was some way we > could talk Tim and Larry into getting on line. When I spoke to them at > the con, they were obviously negative about the whole computer thing. > Oh well. Anyway, nice to find a place to go to. From pack2@fuse.net Tue Sep 03 18:36:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51390 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 01:36:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Sep 2002 01:36:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 01:36:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pack2@fuse.net Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2002 01:36:42 -0000 X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 3 Sep 2002 17:54:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 92233 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 17:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Sep 2002 17:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 17:54:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2002 17:54:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:54:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanks Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 239 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 66.144.13.219 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 04 Sep 2002 01:36:41 -0000 Thanks for the kind welcome everyone. I'm sincerely a bit humbled. Steve and Ian, drop me a line at Pack2@fuse.net and I'll send you my snail mail address. I really don't like to put that stuff on the internet. Love to see your books. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Wed Sep 04 10:52:50 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 4 Sep 2002 17:52:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 97972 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 17:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Sep 2002 17:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 17:52:48 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.16f.133379d3 (30960) for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <16f.133379d3.2aa7a26a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:52:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hello Dere. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Pack! Welcome! I know you don't know who the hell I am, but I really enjoyed your work in the mid-70s! I have a copy of all of the Fanzine '76s and '77s. I was never fortunate enough to find a copy of your first Fanzine '75 though. I got the opportunity to meet you, Larry Nibert, Larry Blake, Mitch Sonoda, and Topper Helmers at one of the SpringCons in the '70s. Of course I bothered all of your guys to sign all of my copies of your fanzines. You have to share with us what you have been doing since then! A big fan, George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Wed Sep 04 11:12:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 4 Sep 2002 18:12:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 30612 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 18:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Sep 2002 18:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 18:12:28 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.123.160a4f8c (30960) for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <123.160a4f8c.2aa7a702@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:12:18 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Jim Pack on the scene! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Count me in on that, Ian! My P.O. Box address is: George A. Lane III P.O. Box 42184 Indianapolis, IN 46242-0184 I always prefer to have artwork or fanzines sent to me through the P.O. Box because my mail carrier likes to STUFF my fanzines and things into my home mail box! Not a good thing! Thanks, George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Sep 04 11:51:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 4 Sep 2002 18:51:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 91080 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 18:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Sep 2002 18:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 18:51:42 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.42.2cd651e8 (4560) for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42.2cd651e8.2aa7b03b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:51:39 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Hello Dere. To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/4/02 10:53:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, KINGGEO3@aol.com writes: > James Pack! Welcome! I know you don't know who the hell I am, but I really > enjoyed your work in the mid-70s! I have a copy of all of the Fanzine '76s > and '77s. I was never fortunate enough to find a copy of your first > Fanzine > '75 though. I got the opportunity to meet you, Larry Nibert, Larry Blake, > Mitch Sonoda, and Topper Helmers at one of the SpringCons in the '70s. Of > course I bothered all of your guys to sign all of my copies of your > fanzines. > You have to share with us what you have been doing since then! I've been reading fanzines since the 1960s and publishing since the 1970s (during which time I was sent countless 'zines for review I otherwise never would have known about), but I've never heard of Fanzine '76, etc. What is it?--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From baltimore_mba@yahoo.com Thu Sep 05 17:02:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 45363 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2002 00:02:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2002 00:02:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 00:02:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: baltimore_mba@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.130] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2002 00:02:53 -0000 X-Sender: baltimore_mba@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 5 Sep 2002 16:27:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 74282 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 16:27:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2002 16:27:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 16:27:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.161] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2002 16:27:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:27:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Any zines for the DC/Balt/Mid-Atlantic region Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 92 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "baltimore_mba" X-Originating-IP: 64.158.110.132 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84287487 X-Yahoo-Profile: baltimore_mba X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Sep 2002 00:02:49 -0000 Does anyone know of any zines that cater to the DC/Balt/Mid-Atlantic region? Thanks, Jeff From pack2@fuse.net Fri Sep 06 21:33:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67931 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2002 04:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2002 04:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 04:33:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pack2@fuse.net Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2002 04:33:31 -0000 X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 6 Sep 2002 20:34:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5506 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2002 20:34:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2002 20:34:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.79) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 20:34:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.160] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2002 20:34:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 20:34:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who is Jim Pack? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1234 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.35.235 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Sep 2002 04:33:26 -0000 Now, there's an interesting question. I published Fanzine 75,76,77, and Future Fanzines in the 1970's. I published "The Comic Book Newsletter" sometime in the 80's. I published "The Comicist" in the 90's. And, in between that time, I managed to publish some comic books called "Comet Tales", "Orbit", "Citizens Publishing Digest", and "Tales of the Void". "Comet Tales" is listed in the Overstreet Buyer's Guide at below the cover price. So, who am I? I'm an old time publisher who gained some noteriety because I was terribly persistent and a general nuisance on Convention Panels for about 20 years. I've always felt that small press publishers never die, they just turn a new page. If I could point out one thing that my zines did that I'm proud of, is that I published some big name comic artists long before they became big name. I am glad I was able to give them a place to start. I am now a school teacher and teach Commercial Design. All in all, it sure has been an interesting life and I owe most of it to Small Press Publishing. Without small press readers and buyers, I would not have had a life. Thanks to you all, wherever you are. I'll stop by the chat room at 9:00 EST for anyone who wants to jawbone. From jmain44@aol.com Sat Sep 07 07:38:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97300 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2002 14:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2002 14:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 14:38:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jmain44@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.156] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2002 14:38:49 -0000 X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 7 Sep 2002 11:55:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 46986 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2002 11:55:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2002 11:55:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 11:55:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.146] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2002 11:55:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 11:55:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Who is Jim Pack? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1494 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jmain44" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Sep 2002 14:38:48 -0000 ---Jim-Well, I hope you publish something in the near future for all of us fans of your work! It's been too long since your last zine. Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > Now, there's an interesting question. I published Fanzine 75,76,77, and > Future Fanzines in the 1970's. I published "The Comic Book Newsletter" > sometime in the 80's. I published "The Comicist" in the 90's. And, in > between that time, I managed to publish some comic books called "Comet > Tales", "Orbit", "Citizens Publishing Digest", and "Tales of the Void". > "Comet Tales" is listed in the Overstreet Buyer's Guide at below the > cover price. So, who am I? I'm an old time publisher who gained some > noteriety because I was terribly persistent and a general nuisance on > Convention Panels for about 20 years. I've always felt that small press > publishers never die, they just turn a new page. If I could point out > one thing that my zines did that I'm proud of, is that I published some > big name comic artists long before they became big name. I am glad I > was able to give them a place to start. I am now a school teacher and > teach Commercial Design. All in all, it sure has been an interesting > life and I owe most of it to Small Press Publishing. Without small > press readers and buyers, I would not have had a life. Thanks to you > all, wherever you are. > I'll stop by the chat room at 9:00 EST for anyone who wants to jawbone. From lesterdent@hotmail.com Sun Sep 08 18:02:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 96453 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2002 01:02:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:01:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Steve Skeates' Latest Zine Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1393 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Since so many of you all like fanzines, I thought I'd pass the word that I just got a copy of Steve Skeates' latest fanzine, "The Sweatshop of Ersatz Revelations" #6. It's great. It has some of his strips and a nice article on working for Tower Comics as a writer in the late 60s, I think almost all of you would be happy if you got a copy. Steve is asking for a buck fifty and I think you'll find it well worth it. And if you have a thing about getting zines, I'm sure he's got a number of back issues he'd be albe to get to you if you ask! (My secret agenda is to have a million people order his zine and thus encourage him to produce more!). Jeez, it would be great if we could get him on-line and stop by HERE. I'd love to ask him about any insights he has on writing all those terrific Aquaman stories way back when (His best work, in my opinion). But in any event, I hope some of you will take the time to send him the buck fifty and get a copy and see for yourselves. It's a fun zine and well worth your time! His address is 95 Jefferson Ave., Fairport, NY 14450-1956. (I'd hesitate to give his address without explicit permission, but it's on the BPP webpage and in the newsletter and stuff, so I figured he wouldn't mind if I gave it here to facilitate ordering). If you like getting zines, I urge you to order a copy and inquire about getting back issues! From srowecanoe@aol.com Sun Sep 08 18:51:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 01:51:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 17794 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.187.db9ee66 (17526) for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <187.db9ee66.2aad58a0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:51:28 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Skeates' Latest Zine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10618 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/8/2002 9:02:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lesterdent@hotmail.com writes: > Jeez, it would be great if we could get him (steve skeates) on-line and stop > by > HERE. Steve is online, i know he is in both the Charlton and the Wally Wood Yahoo lists steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lesterdent@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 04:15:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 11:15:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 7785 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 11:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 11:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 11:15:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.160] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2002 11:15:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 11:15:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Steve Skeates' Latest Zine Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <187.db9ee66.2aad58a0@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 834 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha That shows how informed I am! Still...I never see anyone mention some of the zines put out by people like Skeats in any of the groups I go to, so I try to post info about such zines when I think it might be appropriate. As far as i know, most people stopping by this site don't know he puts one out, so I thought I'd just mention that he does and has a new issue. Just like when I accidently stumbled onto this site a mere month ago, I quickly told a few poeple about it who would be sure to be interested, little knowing a couple of other people already knew about this place! I guess I just like passing along good news! But you're right, it would be neat to get Skeates here; I think he'd have a lot of insight to offer about writing, comics, "the good ol' days", etc. I know I wish I could here some of that from him! From lesterdent@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 04:19:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 42321 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.79) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.157] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 11:19:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Does this exist? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 653 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "chasmithalpha" X-Originating-IP: 204.120.50.1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Is there a James Van Hise checklist?? You know, it seems like I've seen his stuff around FOREVER, especially those media history/tribute books about the great old 60s TV shows. But you know, I've never heard of a Van Hise checklist! His name pops up on numerous covers all over the place...for DECADES! And yet, I don't think most people know the full range of his productivity! Dang, it would be interesting to see what-all he's done! (His Rep with me as a media commentator is such that if you told me he did the definitive book on "My Mother, The Car", I'd seriously believe you! He's done so much that I wouldn't be able to doubt it!!) From pjstef@yahoo.com Mon Sep 09 10:41:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: pjstef@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 17:41:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1425 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 17:41:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 17:41:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10101.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.51) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 17:41:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020909174131.73474.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.110.170.5] by web10101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:41:31 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Steve Skeates' Latest Zine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1031536291.138.65175.m12@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Stefanowicz X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2901536 X-Yahoo-Profile: pjstef > Jeez, it would be great if we could get him > on-line and stop by > HERE. I'd love to ask him about any insights he has > on writing all > those terrific Aquaman stories way back when (His > best work, in > my opinion). Steve Skeates is indeed online, and he was on the Charlton e-mail list last time I peeked in. Maybe somebody can get his address from there... Regards, Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From waffyjon@yahoo.com Mon Sep 09 11:48:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: waffyjon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 9 Sep 2002 18:48:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 86834 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2002 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2002 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2002 18:48:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:48:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Calling All Seattle-Tacoma Area Comics Fans! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1183 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "waffyjon" X-Originating-IP: 67.40.0.95 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59983829 X-Yahoo-Profile: waffyjon Hello! It's announcement time for me (I gotta put up a trivia quiz sometime, or try to answer someone else's)! I've started a new Yahoo group for Seattle-Tacoma area comics fans, called Sea-Tac Comics Club! The purpose of this group is to provide a centralized mailing list for comics fans in the area to alert each other about comics-related events (whether it's a show, a shop having a sale, comics-related stuff on TV, or whatever), help each other out in tracking down an issue they need for their collections, discuss comics, etc. I'm also hoping once things get going, we'll be able to have gatherings about every three months or so for pizza or whatever, just so we can connect faces with names. The only rules are be nice, respect other's opinions, and have fun! The group can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaTacComics -- you can either go there yourself and sign up, or if you prefer, email me at waffyjon@yahoo.com with your preferred email address, and I can add you to the list myself. Feel free to forward this message on to your friends who are in the Seattle-Tacoma area, and to other lists you might be on that I'm not! Thanks! Jon B. Knutson From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Sep 11 18:04:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 12 Sep 2002 01:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 98833 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 01:04:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2002 01:04:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 01:04:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24885 invoked by alias); 12 Sep 2002 01:07:04 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 24844 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2002 01:07:02 -0000 Received: from roswell0004.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.4) by zianet.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 01:07:02 -0000 Message-ID: <3D7FE7C3.7050001@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:02:59 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines , Ultra Subject: MANTRA #4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Steve "The Skeet" Keeter graciously send me a freebie copy of a reprint of MANTRA #4, which originally came out in 1979 (ahhh, the good old days...). I thank him very much for that! It is a fun issue, and, as he points out, a nice blast from the past. The cover is an enjoyable Al Hanley cover of some typical Spaceman/Superhero about to save some poor damsel from some alien version of a Mayan sacrifice, replete with all kinds of aliens, bugs, what looks like it *could* be some kind of bespectacled fanzine geek, and even flying cars! The hero nonchalantly blasts his obviously blast-powered finger behind him as he casts some kind of weapon bursts in front of him, completely surrounded by an advancing horde. It's wonderful! There's an interesting explanation from Steve (from 1979) about the all- too-common banes of amateur publishing - the lack of being able to achieve something resembling a regular publishing schedule (something I dread thinking about as I'm about to try my hand at pubbing) and, heh heh, the terrible service and price of what he calls "the Post Awful." (Being a 24 year employee of said "service" - I'll refrain from commenting!). A cute fiction story follows, nothing great, but enjoyable nonetheless in that it showcases the type of "trick" ending we all thought we were so clever with back in those days. The highlight of the zine, though, has to be the Gene Day strip, "It Waits!" Despite a coupla horrific misspellings of words ("putrification" for "putrefaction"; and "excorsise" for "exorcise"), the strip highlights one of Day's strongest points, his Gulacy-like usage of shadow, to great effect. There are really some stand-out panels in this strip - what a shame he died so young. The issue ends off with a few letters (one of them from a fellow on these very lists - the redoubtable Jim Main!), and an "okay" bacover drawing of the Doom Patrol by Lee Jackson (surely no relation to "Python" Lee Jackson?). Thanks once again, Steve - I thoroughly enjoyed it! -- Lyle Tucker Visit my ART SITE: it's virtually painless and it's FREE! http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Sep 12 11:21:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 12 Sep 2002 18:21:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 33639 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 18:21:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2002 18:21:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 18:21:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Sep 2002 18:21:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:21:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The SPA Strikes again! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1306 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.11 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hi there, comic book fanzine group members! Ian Shires here, from the SPA. Take a moment to come check out the latest anthology release from the Small Press Association! It's a 32 page digest, with a full color cover, and work from people all over the planet! Here's the URL for more info on the issue, including a sneak peek at the cover: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/mysterious_vis ions.asp For those of you unfamiliar with the SPA and what we do, here's a link to our main info page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/index.asp basically, we're a support group for writers artists and publishers. Over 300 members strong, and growing. You won't beleive all the things going on, we're so big we have TWO community sites, both very active. Check out our YAHOO GROUP: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obscurityunlimited/ where we have a conversational atmosphere, discussing member's posted artwork and such. Or check out our FORUM SITE: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/portal_content.asp which is more topic-driven, and information-packed. Anyway, thank you for your time of reading this, and feel free to join up, and contribute to future anthologies, and see what else the SPA has to offer. Chances are there is something there for you! Ian From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Thu Sep 12 20:30:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 13 Sep 2002 03:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 57758 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2002 03:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Sep 2002 03:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ncsmtp02.southeast.rr.com) (24.93.67.83) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2002 03:30:09 -0000 Received: from mail6.triad.rr.com (fe6 [24.93.67.53]) by ncsmtp02.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g8D3UeCL006134 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [24.88.196.184] ([24.88.196.184]) by mail6.triad.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:30:08 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:31:55 -0400 Subject: Mantra #4 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1031809713.798.13888.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Chris Wallace X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 on 9/12/02 1:48 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com at comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Steve "The Skeet" Keeter graciously send me a freebie copy of a reprint > of MANTRA #4, which originally came out in 1979 (ahhh, the good old > days...). > I thank him very much for that! It is a fun issue, and, as he points > out, a nice > blast from the past I got my copy too and enjoyed it tremendously! Thanks Steve. Owe you one. > A cute fiction story follows, nothing great, but enjoyable nonetheless in >that it showcases the type of "trick" ending we all thought we were so clever >with back in those days. Hey, I still love those. If it was good enough for EC, hey I'm there. Heh. >he strip highlights one of Day's strongest points, >his Gulacy-like usage of shadow, to great effect. There are really some >stand-out panels in this strip - what a shame he died so young. Great point. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed Day's work. Once again, I thank you Steve. Nostagia is what it all about after all. Chris From tazwert@yahoo.com Sun Sep 15 18:02:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 01:02:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 97960 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 01:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 01:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13801.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.11) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 01:02:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20020916010204.71666.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.17.10.150] by web13801.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:02:04 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FallCon 2002 Newsletter #3 To: Comic Book Fanzines List - Yahoo! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert Passing along some information that may interest people on this list... FallCon 2002 Newsletter #3 Feel free to post this on any news or discussion group that is comics related. FALLCON 2002 HEADQUARTERS HOTEL The Radisson Hotel Roseville is the official headquarters hotel for FallCon 2002. Reservations can be made by calling 1-800-333-3333. Ask for the MCBA room rate. GUEST LIST UPDATES We have added several new guests who will be at FallCon 2002. Those new guests include: RUSS HEATH, legendary Silver Age artist. FRANK CHO, the head monkey in the zoo called LIBERTY MEADOWS. TOM RICHMOND, artist for MAD MAGAZINE. VINCENT STALL, creator of the KING MINI comics. KEN AVIDOR, creator of ROAD KILL BILL. The full guest list can be found on our website, www.mncba.com. CHARITY AUCTION This year’s auction of original comic art and collectibles will benefit the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund (CBLDF) and A Commitment To Our Roots (A.C.T.O.R.) The 2001 charity auction raised over $5,200 for the Red Cross 9-11 Fund. Any artist wishing to make a contribution may bring it to FallCon 2002. Those wishing to make other arrangements may contact the Minnesota Comic Book Association at our Hotline (612) 770-6828 or by e-mail FOOD DRIVE Once again we will be collecting non-perishable food donations at the door to FallCon 2002. Anyone bringing a non-perishable food donation will receive $1 off their admission. The 2001 FallCon Food drive collected over 625 pounds of non-perishable food items for the Christian Cupboard in Woodbury, MN. GIANT GRAB BAGS The tradition continues at FallCon 2002. 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News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Sep 16 06:07:51 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 13:07:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 84070 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 13:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 13:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 13:07:48 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.14f.141c4e9a (657) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <14f.141c4e9a.2ab7319d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:07:41 EDT Subject: The end of the Ackermansion To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I expect some of the members on this group have managed to visit the legendary home of Forry Ackerman over the years. Certainly this was on the agenda of many fans visiting Los Angeles, but as of this weekend the Ackermansion is no more. After years of broken promises, Forry has given up his dream of housing his collection in a museum. Following his medical problems in April and May he decided that at age 86 it was all too much for him to continue to manage. He's sold his home and the collection has been dispersed among several dealers who are selling it for him. Some has already found a home among private collectors, some will appear in auctions and some has already been sold on ebay. On Sept, 14th and 15th, Forry presided over an estate sale where material not taken by the major dealers was sold off at fire sale prices to fans who visited his house, many just wanting a souvenir of what was. I was there both days, originally going just to view the end of an era but surprisingly finding some material well worth acquiring. The first time I visited the Ackermansion was twenty years ago, and now it is no more. Someone with more guts than I actually asked him today how Forry felt about all this, and he replied, "It's 75 years of my life down the drain." -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Sep 16 09:35:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 16:35:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 11251 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 16:35:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 16:35:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.33) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 16:35:14 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.59.217df3bb (4238) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <59.217df3bb.2ab76238@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:35:04 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, That is very sad news to hear. For many of us who never got the opportunity to see the Ackermansion, I can't help but feel sorry for the end of such a great dream. From what I've heard it was the greatest sanctorium of horror and sci-fi memorabilia imaginable. A literal shrine to the greats of the genre like Vincent Price, Korloff, Peter Lorre, Bela, both Chaney's, and so many more. I'm sorry to see his dream end, but I'm sorrier to have missed it myself. I envy you that privilege. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jim.bertges@newline.com Mon Sep 16 09:42:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: JIM.BERTGES@newline.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 16:42:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 13384 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 16:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 16:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nlclaexcn01.newline.com) (208.159.28.34) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 16:42:11 -0000 Received: by NLCLAEXCN01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:43:15 -0700 Message-ID: <7B845C3072B9D3119A6500508B8BAC64030AC271@NLCLAEXMB01> To: "'comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:52:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain From: "BERTGES, JIM" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35496704 This is terribly sad news. It is unfortunate that the folks in Hollywood have overlooked the importance of this collection. There really should be a Forrest J. Ackerman wing on the Hollywood museum, but now they've lost their opportunity and the rest of us are all the poorer for it. I was able to visit the original Ackermansion in 1970 and it's an experience I'll never forget. -----Original Message----- From: KINGGEO3@aol.com [mailto:KINGGEO3@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:35 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion James, That is very sad news to hear. For many of us who never got the opportunity to see the Ackermansion, I can't help but feel sorry for the end of such a great dream. From what I've heard it was the greatest sanctorium of horror and sci-fi memorabilia imaginable. A literal shrine to the greats of the genre like Vincent Price, Korloff, Peter Lorre, Bela, both Chaney's, and so many more. I'm sorry to see his dream end, but I'm sorrier to have missed it myself. I envy you that privilege. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Sep 16 12:33:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 19:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 89319 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 19:33:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 19:33:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 19:33:28 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.c1.26efc95d (15886) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-m21.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.137]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v88.21) with ESMTP id MAILINID81-0916153321; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:33:21 2000 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:33:00 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion Message-ID: <4E24562C.713BA2A6.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Mon, 16 Sep 2002 8:07:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jimvanhise writes: >>The first time I visited the Ackermansion was twenty years ago, and now it is no more. Someone with more guts than I actually asked him today how Forry felt about all this, and he replied, "It's 75 years of my life down the drain." -- James Van Hise<< That's a real sad story. His horror collection was second to none, and now it's scattered everywhere. Too bad he didn't take someone under his wing a decade or so ago to manage his estate -- maybe there would have been some way to get the material in a museum so it could be shared with others long after Forry is gone. Russ Maheras From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Sep 16 12:58:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5384 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r01.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.97) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.1be.d71fbe1 (24895) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1be.d71fbe1.2ab791d5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:58:13 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/02 12:34:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: > That's a real sad story. His horror collection was second to none, and now > it's scattered everywhere. Too bad he didn't take someone under his wing a > decade or so ago to manage his estate -- maybe there would have been some > way to get the material in a museum so it could be shared with others long > While Forry did keep about 50 or so items he couldn't bear to part with (the Metropolis robot, the Kong miniatures and other one-of-a-kind items), 99% of his collection is being dispersed. Forry has moved about a mile from his old house into a five room rented home he calls the "Akermansion Jr." and still receives guests, but I haven't heard yet whether he plans the kind of weekly open house he used to have. 10 years ago the open house lasted all day Saturday, but in the last 5 years he'd limited it to one hour on Saturday mornings. He'd tried to get a museum arranged for many years (about 20). In the 1980s Los Angeles had agreed to buy the collection and build the museum, but a budget shortfall and a new administration dropped that idea. The West German government was going to do the museum, but when the Berlin wall fell and a new unified government took over, they also had no interest in a sci-fi museum. We won't mention all of the big name filmmakers who praised Famous Monsters as their inspiration, visited Forry's home, but never had any interest in funding the museum. Forry was once L. Ron Hubbard's agent, but in the 1980s when he tried to approach Hubbard on this subject, Forry was unable to get past Hubbard's inner circle who shielded him from the public. It's very sad and unnecessary. --JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From miraclo@hotmail.com Mon Sep 16 14:22:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: miraclo@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 21:22:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 23461 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 21:22:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 21:22:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 21:22:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.146] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2002 21:22:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:22:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Newbie (kinda sorta) Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2615 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Mike Norton" X-Originating-IP: 146.145.55.104 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=41376329 X-Yahoo-Profile: MrFantastic2001 Though I signed up for this in mid-February of 2001, I believe this is the first time I've taken the time to start reading the postings and finally introduce myself. (Until today these were showing up in my yahoo mail account, where they'd pile up for a month or two between visits - I only have that account because I needed one to set up a Geocities site.) My name's Mike Norton and I've been involved in zines in my limited fashion since 1989. That year I'd started a comics fanzine(Comic Book Crossroads) and placed a stack of LOC's in various comics. One of them (in an issue of Hellblazer, I believe) found me being contacted by the then-President of Legends APA (founded 1986), Chris Miller, and I joined near the end of that year. Flash ahead to 2002. CBC staggered drunkenly through much of the 90's, finally collapsing with issue #21 in '97, if memory serves. My schedule and that of the contributors combined to make the publication dates so erratic that it went beyond silly. Aside from about a year and a half (mid-'97 to end of '98) I've been with Legends APA, though, having served as officer (President and then also as CM) for several years in the early to mid-90's, and am now coming in on the end of my second year in both offices (again) since coming back. Aside from a few copies of scattered 90's zines that were sent to me, and some Trek zine from the 80's (which I have squirreled away somewhere) which came to me out of the blue, CBC and Legends are the only two zine projects I've been involved in. Though Legends has a minor web presence (http://www.geocities.com/mrfantastic2001/legendsA.html) we're so far in little danger of sliding into becoming an e-APA. As backwards as many seem to regard it in this age, we're sticking with print on paper and a very small distribution. (Our constitution allows for up to 35 copies, covering 25 member spots and 10 waitlisters; keep in mind this is an APA, not a zine.) As with comics themselves, I prefer paper even if it is two months between issues. I also set up a general history page for CBC a while back, if you're interested: http://www.geocities.com/mr fantastic2001/Cbc.htm We had fun with that zine, with a few exceptions there was seldom any question that it was the work of rank amateurs. I apologize for the length of this, but that's one of the many reasons I tend to stay off messageboards and group mailing lists. I'm out here, though, and as I've shifted this to the proper email address I expect to be reading the messages here regularly now. ===MJN From CArchivist@aol.com Mon Sep 16 23:21:51 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 06:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 86171 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 06:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 06:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 06:21:50 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.15e.13f5e34d (4380) for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15e.13f5e34d.2ab823f0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:21:36 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 09/16/2002 3:34:49 PM, rmaheras@aol.com writes: << In a message dated Mon, 16 Sep 2002 8:07:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jimvanhise writes: >>The first time I visited the Ackermansion was twenty years ago, and now it is no more. Someone with more guts than I actually asked him today how Forry felt about all this, and he replied, "It's 75 years of my life down the drain." -- James Van Hise<< That's a real sad story. His horror collection was second to none, and now it's scattered everywhere. Too bad he didn't take someone under his wing a decade or so ago to manage his estate -- maybe there would have been some way to get the material in a museum so it could be shared with others long after Forry is gone. Russ Maheras >> Forest's collection is the second such amazing collection that has been divided up in the last two years. The other was the collection of Denis Gifford, British collector extraordinarie of comics and film. Such much one of a kind material now spread out only because his estate owed back taxes and his surviving relatives did not have the same love for his collection he did. Fortunately, I know some people who care about the items did get some stuff, but not all. I imagine more than a few of us have nice collections, with many one or a kind items. I wonder how many of us have actually made an effort to make sure that our own collections will go where we want it to when we die? How many of us have our own wills in order? I think there is lessons to be learned here. my best -Ray **************************************************************************** If you love comics, then join us at the Grand Comic Book Database Project! www.comics.org We are a group of scholars, historians, fans, collectors, and dealers from around the world who are trying to index every single comic book, of every type, from all over the world! Join one of our discussion lists and share your knowledge with a many other experts, fans, and even lurkers...all those who just want to learn more about the people, history, and events that have made comic books so great! **************************************************************************** Are you a fan of Comic Books? 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From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Sep 17 05:48:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 12:48:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 78776 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 12:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 12:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 12:48:12 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.4c.11abc0c6 (3310) for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4c.11abc0c6.2ab87e85@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:48:05 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Newbie (kinda sorta) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome to the group, Mike. I'm George Lane. I did a little bit of fanzine work during the '70s for Steve Streeter's Paige Comics and Klaus Haisch's Firefly Comics. I have been told that I have a Kirbyesque touch to my art. This group and the UltraZine group are probably the most active fanzine groups that I know. They're a bunch of fun. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Sep 17 17:21:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 00:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 75579 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 00:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 00:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 00:21:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3599 invoked by alias); 18 Sep 2002 00:21:54 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 3578 invoked by uid 0); 18 Sep 2002 00:21:53 -0000 Received: from roswell0188.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.188) by zianet.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 00:21:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3D87C70E.8050000@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:21:34 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The end of the Ackermansion References: <14f.141c4e9a.2ab7319d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Damn. What a crying shame. Life is so friggin transitory, isn't it? The likes of the Ackermansion will never be seen again - what is they say, That when a person dies, a library burns down. Well, this one was on a par with Alexandria's. -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From pack2@fuse.net Wed Sep 18 02:04:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 99589 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: pack2@fuse.net Received: from [66.218.67.164] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0000 X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 02:35:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 35637 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 02:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 02:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 02:35:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.139] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2002 02:35:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:35:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hey Steve Keeter Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 643 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.45.234 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 18 Sep 2002 09:04:07 -0000 Got your books yesterday. Just thought I outta tell you that the Post Awful still does its thing. This weekend, I'm gonna sit down and read them. (Especially interested in the zine done by your kids. WOW! That is so neat.) I'll post my critique here for you when I get finished. By the way, I seem to remember being involved in that "Sunwing" strip in some capacity way back when. Did I do some lettering for it? Inking? I know there's something there. My ahlzheimers must be acting up. Anyway, thanks for the zines. Haven't seen any real life zines in years and I can't wait for the weekend to dive into your package. Thanks again.! From jmain44@aol.com Wed Sep 18 05:10:09 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 12:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 59068 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 12:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 12:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 12:10:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.140] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2002 12:10:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:10:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hey Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 831 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Steve-Hey, I'd like to trade some books with you too! Do you have any I haven't seen yet? Jim In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > Got your books yesterday. Just thought I outta tell you that the Post > Awful still does its thing. This weekend, I'm gonna sit down and read > them. (Especially interested in the zine done by your kids. WOW! That > is so neat.) I'll post my critique here for you when I get finished. By > the way, I seem to remember being involved in that "Sunwing" strip in > some capacity way back when. Did I do some lettering for it? Inking? I > know there's something there. My ahlzheimers must be acting up. Anyway, > thanks for the zines. Haven't seen any real life zines in years and I > can't wait for the weekend to dive into your package. Thanks again.! From mossjolly@yahoo.com Wed Sep 18 18:28:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 01:28:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29160 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 01:26:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 01:26:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2002 01:26:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:26:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hey Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1410 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.25.55.126 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Hi, Jim P: Glad you got the books okay... Yes, you lettered the Sunwing strip that was originally intended for an independent Sunwing comic, but actually ended up in MANTRAZONE #9 a few years back. I'm inking a second issue of my daughters' comic TWILIGHT SAMURAIS that'll be out pretty soon, and Larry Blake is inking the 3rd issue. These kids are darn prolific, they already have 5 issues completely pencilled! Yes indeed, you need to read more small press zines and comics... It's in your blood, it's part of you, you cannot deny who you are (oh, and you should publish again, too!) --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > Got your books yesterday. Just thought I outta tell you that the Post > Awful still does its thing. This weekend, I'm gonna sit down and read > them. (Especially interested in the zine done by your kids. WOW! That > is so neat.) I'll post my critique here for you when I get finished. By > the way, I seem to remember being involved in that "Sunwing" strip in > some capacity way back when. Did I do some lettering for it? Inking? I > know there's something there. My ahlzheimers must be acting up. Anyway, > thanks for the zines. Haven't seen any real life zines in years and I > can't wait for the weekend to dive into your package. Thanks again.! From mossjolly@yahoo.com Wed Sep 18 18:28:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 01:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 97127 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 01:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 01:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 01:28:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2002 01:28:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:28:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hey Steve Keeter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1073 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.25.55.126 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Why yes, I have secretly published several hundred books without telling you about them! --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jim Main" wrote: > --- Steve-Hey, I'd like to trade some books with you too! Do you have > any I haven't seen yet? > > Jim > > > In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > > Got your books yesterday. Just thought I outta tell you that the > Post > > Awful still does its thing. This weekend, I'm gonna sit down and > read > > them. (Especially interested in the zine done by your kids. WOW! > That > > is so neat.) I'll post my critique here for you when I get > finished. By > > the way, I seem to remember being involved in that "Sunwing" strip > in > > some capacity way back when. Did I do some lettering for it? > Inking? I > > know there's something there. My ahlzheimers must be acting up. > Anyway, > > thanks for the zines. Haven't seen any real life zines in years and > I > > can't wait for the weekend to dive into your package. Thanks again.! From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Sep 20 07:48:11 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 14:48:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29546 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 14:48:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 14:48:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 14:48:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2002 14:48:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:48:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pick Of The Month Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2711 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 ((Quick note before the posting: If you have never heard of the Small Press Association or our review magazine, Obscurity Unlimited, go here to investigate further and check our credentials: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com now...on with the post...)) So There I was, reading my e-mail when what should appear...a letter from Steve Noppinger, one of the principals behind the Potlatch project. He told me of an idea that he had, that he'd discussed with a few people at the SPX. He proceeded to lay out the basic idea of a small press book club. In his talking of it, he noted that there are few people with the position or resources or basic desire to accomplish it, even though it's a sound idea. I agree. Fortunitely, I just happen to fill the qualifications. Thusly, I scrutinized the idea, and as it goes, did some molding of it on my own, and have come up with what will be known as The Pick Of The Month. Basically, in each issue of Obscurity Unlimited, we will be choosing one comic book that will be the Pick of the month, and people who have subscribed to the pick of the month will be sent a copy of that comic. We may even expand the idea to cover a pick of the month for different catagories of zines and such as we continue to develop it. We will not be announceing/ advertising this new project until the new year, when OU will be going monthly again. But in the meantime, we have some work to do to get it set up. Basically, we need to start lining up agreements for buying copies in bulk/wholesale with publishers. So if you are a publisher who is interested in receiving bulk orders, we need you to contact us. We need to know what your minimun order would be to receive a bulk price. We will be asking for a distributor-level price, as we are, at the same time as the development of this, working on getting more comic stores to use OU as their guide to ordering small press, and need to be able to offer them a competitive price. Distributors Pay 40% of the cover price so that they can charge retailers 50%...and that is the deal we would be looking for. We will keep this simple for now, and leave the rest up to development as we go. There are many aspects of our system of running a review magazine that this will impact on in a very favorable way. Right now, it's fact-finding time. Think about what your small press publishing needs are, and let us know what your minimun bulk order (in general, for any of your publications, in # of copies) for a 40% off cover price order would be...and we'll work on getting you that order as soon as possible. Reply to Ian@dimestoreproductions.com to let me know Ian Shires From pack2@fuse.net Sat Sep 21 17:53:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 00:53:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 67627 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 00:53:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 00:53:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 00:53:19 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.182] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2002 00:53:19 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:53:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Larry Nibert Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 667 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.47.51 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist I heard a really disconcerting rumour day before yesterday. I'm still checking it out. I heard that Larry Nibert has been admitted to a care facility in Butler County,Ohio. Larry was a pretty big name in Fanzines and Independents way back when. I tried to call Debora, his wife, but haven't heard anything back from her yet. I guess his condition took a turn for the worse. Damn. I'll update everyone who knows Larry as I hear more. I hope to God it's just a rumour and I'm dead wrong. Larry and I go way back. Went to high school together, dated the same girls, collaborated on comic books and art projects in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Stay tuned. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sat Sep 21 18:50:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 01:50:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8116 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 01:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 01:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 01:50:03 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.136.1436322b (16781) for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <136.1436322b.2abe7bc3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:49:55 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Nibert To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jim! I know we'd all like to know how Larry is doing. I'll be praying for him. I have always loved his work in your and his own fanzines. I proud to say that I have many of them. He did some outstanding work with Steve Bissette in the '80s. Please keep us informed of anything you learn. Thanks again. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From srowecanoe@aol.com Sat Sep 21 18:56:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 01:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 93519 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 01:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 01:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 01:56:17 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.1ba.669582a (4459) for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1ba.669582a.2abe7d38@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:56:08 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] names To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10618 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No offense, but could you guys humor us old folks by including first and last names? thanks, Steven Rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sun Sep 22 04:41:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 11:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 77112 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 11:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 11:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 11:41:40 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2002 11:41:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:41:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Larry Nibert Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 994 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Geez Jim, let us know if you hear anything else about Larry Nibert! Hopefully it'll be some good news. By the way, do you know where his last bit of art was published before he stopped drawing? I really miss seeing his work. Jim In comicbookfanzines@y..., "thecomicist" wrote: > I heard a really disconcerting rumour day before yesterday. I'm still > checking it out. I heard that Larry Nibert has been admitted to a care > facility in Butler County,Ohio. Larry was a pretty big name in Fanzines > and Independents way back when. I tried to call Debora, his wife, but > haven't heard anything back from her yet. I guess his condition took a > turn for the worse. Damn. I'll update everyone who knows Larry as I > hear more. I hope to God it's just a rumour and I'm dead wrong. Larry > and I go way back. Went to high school together, dated the same girls, > collaborated on comic books and art projects in the 60's, 70's, 80's, > and 90's. Stay tuned. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Sep 22 05:46:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 12:46:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 80122 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 12:45:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 12:45:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 12:45:33 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.12b.17ccbdda (30960) for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 08:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12b.17ccbdda.2abf156a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 08:45:30 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] names To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm no spring chicken either, Steve. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mgilbert@efn.org Sun Sep 22 06:04:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 13:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 46515 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 13:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 13:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (66.178.136.10) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 13:04:13 -0000 Received: from [216.239.174.48] (dialup-ras2-48.eug.or.uspops.net [216.239.174.48]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8MD4B429132 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:04:12 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:01:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1032678930.142.61643.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: "Michael T. Gilbert" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 on 9/22/02 12:15 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com at comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > ssage: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:53:15 -0000 > From: "thecomicist" > Subject: Larry Nibert > > I heard a really disconcerting rumour day before yesterday. I'm still > checking it out. I heard that Larry Nibert has been admitted to a care > facility in Butler County,Ohio. Larry was a pretty big name in Fanzines > and Independents way back when. I tried to call Debora, his wife, but > haven't heard anything back from her yet. I guess his condition took a > turn for the worse. Damn. I'll update everyone who knows Larry as I > hear more. I hope to God it's just a rumour and I'm dead wrong. Larry > and I go way back. Went to high school together, dated the same girls, > collaborated on comic books and art projects in the 60's, 70's, 80's, > and 90's. Stay tuned. > > Sorry to hear about Larry. The name sounds vaguely familiar, but could you tell us some of the 'zines he published? Best wishes, Michael T. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Sep 22 06:20:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 13:20:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 44498 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 13:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 13:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 13:20:45 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.14c.147bdf01 (30960) for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <14c.147bdf01.2abf1da4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:20:36 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, Larry Nibert did quite a bit of work in a compilation set of mid-'70s fanzines called Fanzine '75, Fanzine '76, and Fanzine '77. I believe there were more than one issue printed of '76 and '77. So that they would have had a Fanzine '76, No. 1, 2, and 3 for that year. He worked on these books with several of the well known Ohio fanzine writers and artists such as Jim Pack, Larry Blake, Frank Cirrocco, Topper Helmers, Val Mayerik, Steve Bissette, Mitch Sonada, and others. The last fanzine I picked up from him was in the '80s and it was a small 'zine called "Ruz." He has a nice, fine line art style that works well with other people's work whether he is inking their's or they are inking his. I would love to find some more of his fanzines myself. Have you got any information about that, Mr. Pack? Keep in touch about Larry's condition, Jim. Thanks. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Sun Sep 22 17:39:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 23 Sep 2002 00:39:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 43210 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 00:39:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2002 00:39:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10506.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.156) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 00:39:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20020923003928.21335.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.111.68] by web10506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:39:28 PDT Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <14c.147bdf01.2abf1da4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10482206 --- KINGGEO3@aol.com wrote: > He worked on these books with several of the > well known Ohio fanzine > writers and artists such as Jim Pack, Larry Blake, > Frank Cirrocco, Topper > Helmers, Val Mayerik, Steve Bissette, Mitch Sonada, > and others. Just to nit-pick here, but Frank Cirocco was and is a good ol' San Jose, CA denizen. -Mark Clegg __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From pack2@fuse.net Mon Sep 23 19:43:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 24 Sep 2002 02:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 55880 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 02:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2002 02:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 02:43:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2002 02:43:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:43:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Work of Larry Nibert Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 424 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.31.33 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist The last work I ever published of Larry's was in "Comet Tales 8" published in December of 1995. Whether that was his latest work, I don't know. It seems to me he was trying very hard to continue drawing and might have published something between then and now. I still haven't heard anything from Deborah, his wife, yet. I guess I'm just gonna have to get up the nerve to drive over there and find out what's going on. From ditko37@sympatico.ca Mon Sep 23 21:33:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 24 Sep 2002 04:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 90972 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 04:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2002 04:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.183) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 04:33:28 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.99.10]) by tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020924043324.PYRL23500.tomts21-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3D8FEAD2.C621AF27@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:32:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wood-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: FANTAGRAPHICS and BLAKE BELL team up for hardcover STEVE DITKO art book! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan FANTAGRAPHICS and BLAKE BELL team up for hardcover coffee table art book entitled STEVE DITKO: THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER (9/23/02) - Steve Ditko rose from the flood-ravaged surroundings of Depression-era Johnstown Pennsylvania to become a master of sequential arts. After working for scraps at the Mafia=92s favorite comic company, Charlton Comics of the 1950s, Ditko co-created the greatest pop icon in the past 40 years in the AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. His conceptual vision on strips like his creation DR. STRANGE gave birth to a legend as prominent today as then until he walked away from it all to become the Greta Garbo of the graphic arts world.=20 Developing a fascination for Objectivist philosopher AYN RAND, Ditko became Howard Roark - the work became the message, the message overwhelming the work. Talent unbound or talent wasted? For 50 years, Steve Ditko has recreated the visual laws of sequential art. He will die having reaped but a pittance of the wealth he could have amassed had he simply compromised his Randian views of art, commerce and morality.=20 Author BLAKE BELL, whose first book =93I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS GUY!=94 (on shelves October 9th from TwoMorrows Publishing) examined the lives of comic creators of all generations and genres through the eyes of their spouses and partners, teams up with FANTAGRAPHICS to bring you =93STEVE DITKO: THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER.=94 In the tradition of Fantagraphics volume on Bernie Krigstein, this will be the definitive volume on the artwork of Steve Ditko. At 224 pages in length, over 50% in color, and a 9x12=94 hardcover format, the tome will be swinging onto shelves in June of 2003. =93I'm ecstatic about the chance to work with a company with the courage to put together a book like this,=94 says Bell. =93Fantagraphics=92 commitment to the highest production values and the most daring of subject matters made this a natural choice.=94 =93Steve Ditko is among that small circle of brilliant, quirky, eccentric mainstream artists whose life's work transcends all the commercial limitations he worked under,=94 says GARY GROTH, co-publisher of Fantagraphics. =93He's also among that tiny elite of his generation - among whom I would count Bernie Krigstein, Wally Wood, Gil Kane - who felt constrained by the aesthetic boundaries of mainstream comics and, against the odds, liberated themselves from it to one degree or another. Stylistically, he's among the most fascinating and original artists in the history of comic books. It's about time a coffee table book covering his entire career and contribution to comics is published.=94 The man with a face few have seen contends =91the work speaks for me=92 and this book peels back the layers with help from those who worked with and admired him from his days at Charlton, sharing studio space with noted bondage artist Eric Stanton, to his tumultuous days at Marvel and D.C. Comics (as creator of THE CREEPER and THE HAWK AND THE DOVE), through his trail-blazing work in the fanzines of the late =9160s and =9170s, to his desperate struggle to bring his vision of a black-and-white morality to a four-color world through the examination of his THE QUESTION and MR. A. characters. Mr. Bell is also looking for copies/scans of original artwork for the highest quality of reproduction, as well as professionals willing to share stories and dissect Ditko=92s work/career. For updated information/queries, e-mail him at ditko37@sympatico.ca and keep your eye on www.ditko.comics.org for news on the first in a string of Ditko-related projects from the man who brought you five years of the web site DITKO LOOKED UP the ART OF STEVE DITKO panel at the 2002 San Diego Comic Con and now...=20 STEVE DITKO: THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Sep 24 11:38:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 24 Sep 2002 18:38:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25974 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 18:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2002 18:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 18:38:14 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.d7.1de64bff (3842) for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:38:03 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the mis-information about Frank Cirrocco. He just did so much work for these Ohio fanzines that I assumed he lived in that area also. My mistake. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Thu Sep 26 02:19:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 26 Sep 2002 09:19:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 15012 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 09:18:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2002 09:18:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 09:18:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2002 09:18:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:18:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020923003928.21335.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 729 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Good old Frank! I had the honor of having some of his art adorn a few of my zines back in the mid-70's! What is he doing now, I wonder? Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., Mark Clegg wrote: > > --- KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > > He worked on these books with several of the > > well known Ohio fanzine > > writers and artists such as Jim Pack, Larry Blake, > > Frank Cirrocco, Topper > > Helmers, Val Mayerik, Steve Bissette, Mitch Sonada, > > and others. > > Just to nit-pick here, but Frank Cirocco was and is a > good ol' San Jose, CA denizen. > > -Mark Clegg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com From mossjolly@yahoo.com Thu Sep 26 05:28:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 26 Sep 2002 12:28:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 36883 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2002 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.79) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.137] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2002 12:28:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:28:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 480 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.25.53.176 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Speaking of Cirocco, there will be a strip appearing in Chuck Robinson's upcoming revival issue of COMIQUE with his work in it. It's an s&s strip that we did back in the 1970s... written by me, pencilled by Brent Anderson, inked by Frank Cirocco. CBRII has been sitting on this strip for, like, 25 years, and it's finally going to be published. By the way, I mentioned this site to Chuck, so maybe he'll pop in soon. --stevekeeter From jmain44@aol.com Thu Sep 26 06:05:22 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 26 Sep 2002 13:05:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 88386 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 13:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2002 13:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 13:05:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2002 13:05:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:05:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1160 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Skeeter-what kind of strip is it? Superhero, sword and sorcery, fantasy or science fiction? I remember CBR was telling me about this when he returned to small press recently. I'm so glad he did too, as you and I have benefitted from it with all the art and strips he and his son Ben have done for our zines! And those articles he's been doing for me are just as great. That piece on the Quatermass films he wrote for my zine "Sci-Fi Shall Not Die!" was excellent. I'm sure the one he's just wrapped on on "Invaders From Mars" will be equally amazing. Great to have him back. Jim In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Steve Keeter" wrote: > Speaking of Cirocco, there will be a strip appearing in Chuck > Robinson's upcoming revival issue of COMIQUE with his work in it. > It's an s&s strip that we did back in the 1970s... written by me, > pencilled by Brent Anderson, inked by Frank Cirocco. CBRII has been > sitting on this strip for, like, 25 years, and it's finally going to > be published. > By the way, I mentioned this site to Chuck, so maybe he'll pop > in soon. > --stevekeeter From mossjolly@yahoo.com Thu Sep 26 07:08:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 26 Sep 2002 14:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 19818 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 14:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2002 14:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 14:08:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.142] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2002 14:08:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:08:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1854 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 64.159.111.12 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly The skeet/Anderson/Cirocco strip is an s&s adventure. Been so long I can't remember the plot! Hey, CBRII is also scripting DRACULA for OM now, having just completed a strip for that character's revival. The next issue of OM will have a large amount of material by both him and Ben Robinson. This stuff, what I've seen so far, is amazingly nostalgic. CBR's style has changed little since the early '70s which is part of the fun in viewing his new work... it looks like old COMIQUE work!-- only this time no purple ditto. --Steve --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Jim Main" wrote: > --- Skeeter-what kind of strip is it? Superhero, sword and sorcery, > fantasy or science fiction? I remember CBR was telling me about this > when he returned to small press recently. I'm so glad he did too, as > you and I have benefitted from it with all the art and strips he and > his son Ben have done for our zines! And those articles he's been > doing for me are just as great. That piece on the Quatermass films he > wrote for my zine "Sci-Fi Shall Not Die!" was excellent. I'm sure the > one he's just wrapped on on "Invaders From Mars" will be equally > amazing. Great to have him back. > > Jim > In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Steve Keeter" wrote: > > Speaking of Cirocco, there will be a strip appearing in Chuck > > Robinson's upcoming revival issue of COMIQUE with his work in it. > > It's an s&s strip that we did back in the 1970s... written by me, > > pencilled by Brent Anderson, inked by Frank Cirocco. CBRII has > been > > sitting on this strip for, like, 25 years, and it's finally going > to > > be published. > > By the way, I mentioned this site to Chuck, so maybe he'll pop > > in soon. > > --stevekeeter From KINGGEO3@aol.com Thu Sep 26 07:28:01 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 26 Sep 2002 14:28:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 51312 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 14:28:00 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.123.174768b5 (25305) for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <123.174768b5.2ac47364@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:27:48 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great, Steve. I'd like to order COMIQUE when it's published. I love that old '70s and '80s stuff. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mclegg_2000@yahoo.com Thu Sep 26 20:25:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg_2000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 03:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 26049 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 03:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 03:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web10506.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.130.156) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 03:25:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20020927032543.27899.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.65.111.181] by web10506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:25:43 PDT Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Clegg X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10482206 Check out http://www.lightsourcestudios.com/contact.php --- Jim Main wrote: > --- Good old Frank! I had the honor of having some > of his art adorn a > few of my zines back in the mid-70's! What is he > doing now, I wonder? > > Jim Main > In comicbookfanzines@y..., Mark Clegg > wrote: > > > > --- KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > > > He worked on these books with several of the > > > well known Ohio fanzine > > > writers and artists such as Jim Pack, Larry > Blake, > > > Frank Cirrocco, Topper > > > Helmers, Val Mayerik, Steve Bissette, Mitch > Sonada, > > > and others. > > > > Just to nit-pick here, but Frank Cirocco was and > is a > > good ol' San Jose, CA denizen. > > > > -Mark Clegg > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From jmain44@aol.com Thu Sep 26 21:16:48 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 04:16:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13964 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 04:16:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 04:16:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 04:16:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2002 04:16:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 04:16:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <123.174768b5.2ac47364@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 667 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Hey George, not so much of the "old" if you don't mind! LOL. That's when I started my zines...in the early 70's. I'm only a mere 47 now. I've had the pleasure(?)of knowing Steve through almost all those years. Currently, he and I are the co-chairmen of the BPP co-op, which we revived about four years ago, through the blessings of the original creator Carl Gafford! Some of us just can't stop doing 'zines! Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@y..., KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > Great, Steve. I'd like to order COMIQUE when it's published. I love that > old '70s and '80s stuff. > > George Lane > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mossjolly@yahoo.com Sat Sep 28 04:23:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 28 Sep 2002 11:23:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2353 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 11:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2002 11:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 11:23:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.146] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2002 11:23:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:23:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 277 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020927032543.27899.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1489 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.24.17.238 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Thanks, Mark! I checked out the site,and it is pretty amazing. Also just heard from Brent Anderson, which was a treat after all this time. Nice to see such rare and rampant creativity still coming out of the San Jose area. Best, stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., Mark Clegg wrote: > Check out > http://www.lightsourcestudios.com/contact.php > > --- Jim Main wrote: > > --- Good old Frank! I had the honor of having some > > of his art adorn a > > few of my zines back in the mid-70's! What is he > > doing now, I wonder? > > > > Jim Main > > In comicbookfanzines@y..., Mark Clegg > > wrote: > > > > > > --- KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > > > > He worked on these books with several of the > > > > well known Ohio fanzine > > > > writers and artists such as Jim Pack, Larry > > Blake, > > > > Frank Cirrocco, Topper > > > > Helmers, Val Mayerik, Steve Bissette, Mitch > > Sonada, > > > > and others. > > > > > > Just to nit-pick here, but Frank Cirocco was and > > is a > > > good ol' San Jose, CA denizen. > > > > > > -Mark Clegg > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com From pack2@fuse.net Sun Sep 29 19:16:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 02:16:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 33063 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 02:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 02:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 02:16:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.161] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2002 02:16:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:16:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Larry Nibert Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 584 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.45.92 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Well, Larry Nibert called me today and, yes, he is in a nursing home. It sounds like the Multiple Sclerosis took out the use of his legs. I'm gonna go try and see him next week. If anybody wants to write to him, his address is 1800 Princeton Rd., Hamilton, OH 45011. He has an email address but has very little contact with an online computer. But, I guess you can try to drop him a line there as well. Its LNibert2002@yahoo.com. I just thought some of you might want to send him some zines to occupy his time, or a note to let him know you're still thinking of him. See ya. From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Sep 29 23:11:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 06:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 57011 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 06:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 06:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 06:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 11501 invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2002 06:11:45 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 11490 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2002 06:11:45 -0000 Received: from roswell0109.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.109) by zianet.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 06:11:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3D97EB12.3040004@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:11:30 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines Subject: FANTUCCHIO Checklist? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Does anyone know where I might find some kind of John Fantucchio checklist? Russ Maheras' TBG index in MAELSTROM #8 is a help in a big way, but I know John put a lot more work out there than just TBG - any help would be appreciated. -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Sep 30 04:10:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: IanKathy@adelphia.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 11:10:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 73993 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 11:10:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 11:10:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.40) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 11:10:24 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.146]) by smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H390D800.V6B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:21 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Larry Nibert Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-eGroups-From: "Ian Shires" From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I met Larry one years ago, it's sad how disease can cut such a talented guy down like that. Thanks for sending out his address.I think I will include a short note in OU for people who remember his work to send something to let him know we all still care. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: thecomicist [mailto:pack2@fuse.net] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:16 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Larry Nibert Well, Larry Nibert called me today and, yes, he is in a nursing home. It sounds like the Multiple Sclerosis took out the use of his legs. I'm gonna go try and see him next week. If anybody wants to write to him, his address is 1800 Princeton Rd., Hamilton, OH 45011. He has an email address but has very little contact with an online computer. But, I guess you can try to drop him a line there as well. Its LNibert2002@yahoo.com. I just thought some of you might want to send him some zines to occupy his time, or a note to let him know you're still thinking of him. See ya. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Sep 30 06:28:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 13:28:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 85707 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 13:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 13:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.34) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 13:28:13 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.181.f4ecc3b (16112) for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d03.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.67]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v88.21) with ESMTP id MAILINID124-0930092807; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:28:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:24:45 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANTUCCHIO Checklist? Message-ID: <5A5F61DA.4ABC62F3.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated Mon, 30 Sep 2002 1:11:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, LyleTucker@zianet.com writes: >>Russ Maheras' TBG index in MAELSTROM #8 is a help in a big way, but I know John put a lot more work out there than just TBG - any help would be appreciated.<< Fantucchio did a bunch of stuff for RBCC, and since there was an index published in, I think, RBCC 100 (which I don't have), RBCC editor and publisher James Van Hise should be able to help you out. Russ Maheras From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Sep 30 08:50:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 15:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26039 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.61.26c383d6 (24895) for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <61.26c383d6.2ac9cccd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:50:37 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANTUCCHIO Checklist? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try contacting David and Coreen who are big Fantuccio collectors. They emailed me a list once to see if I could add to it. coreen1978@adelphia.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Sep 30 09:35:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 16:35:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20838 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 16:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 16:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 16:35:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14674 invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2002 16:35:29 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 14637 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2002 16:35:29 -0000 Received: from roswell0137.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.137) by zianet.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 16:35:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3D987D3E.5030409@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:35:10 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANTUCCHIO Checklist? References: <5A5F61DA.4ABC62F3.0079F8E7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker rmaheras@aol.com wrote: > RBCC editor and publisher James Van Hise should be able to help you out. > Thanks, Russ! -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Sep 30 09:38:35 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 16:38:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 32774 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 16:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 16:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 16:36:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18382 invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2002 16:37:11 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 18362 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2002 16:37:11 -0000 Received: from roswell0137.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.137) by zianet.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 16:37:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3D987DA5.4040308@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:36:53 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANTUCCHIO Checklist? References: <61.26c383d6.2ac9cccd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: >Try contacting David and Coreen who are big Fantuccio collectors. They >emailed me a list once to see if I could add to it. > Thanks, Jim! As a matter of fact, though, they are who I am trying to help out, so I guess I've gone full circle with this rather quickly! -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Sep 30 10:30:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 17:30:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12770 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 17:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 17:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 17:30:45 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.3c.251e3d59 (3940) for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c.251e3d59.2ac9e43e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:30:38 EDT Subject: Re: Fantucchio To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd just be intersted in know whatever became of him. He did a lot of fanzine art in the 60s and '70s and then abruptly dropped off the map. He was already out of circulation by the time I took over the RBCC in 1974 or else I would have gotten covers from him. --James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Mon Sep 30 19:32:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 1 Oct 2002 02:32:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10356 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 02:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2002 02:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 02:32:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.251] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2002 02:32:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 02:32:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fantucchio Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3c.251e3d59.2ac9e43e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1890 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Aaron Caplan" X-Originating-IP: 172.170.15.10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Hi Everyone! I've got a new e-mail at fugtussey1@aol.com now. My old e-address (acaplan@paceworldwide.com) is completely dead so take note. Concerning John Fantucchio ... he is still alive and well, living in Northern Virginia. He's pretty reclusive, uses an answering machine to screen all calls. I know, i've tried several times to call. He (nor his wife Mary) NEVER picks up. Anyway, he dropped out of comic fandom in the early 70's and doesn't like to talk about it. One of these days, I will get up the nerve to call John G Fantucchio again, and tell him (over the answering machine, of course) what his Blue Beetle (?) cover meant to me when RBCC #55 arrived in the mail, way back in the 60's. That issue represented the purest form of "sense of wonder" imaginable. I've been trying to reclaim that feeling for years. I studied that cover for what seemed like eons. God, all those John G covers for RBCC were GREAT! I happen to own the original Fantucchio art for the cover of RBCC #94, his last RBCC cover. Jim, how about a short feature on JGF in an upcoming issue of RBCC? Maybe you could corner him to do an interview? Find out why he left fandom ... I can get you his address/phone. As mentioned by several of you, the real authority to contact is David Irving in Maine, who is the consumate collector of Fantucchio. I lost his e-mail (it has changed in the last month) but he can be reached via his ebay seller persona of (coreen) - use the parenthesis and all. -Aaron Caplan- From: Jimvanhise@a... Date: Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:30 pm Subject: Re: Fantucchio I'd just be intersted in know whatever became of him. He did a lot of fanzine art in the 60s and '70s and then abruptly dropped off the map. He was already out of circulation by the time I took over the RBCC in 1974 or else I would have gotten covers from him. --James Van Hise From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Oct 01 07:25:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 1 Oct 2002 14:25:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 76020 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 14:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2002 14:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 14:21:04 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.139] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2002 14:21:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:21:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pick Of The Month - pt.2 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 987 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello there comics fans. You may have seen our recent postings about setting up a "pick of the month" system, and here's the part where YOU, as a comic reader, can participate. We have made arrangements with dozens of small press and independant publishers, and starting in the new year in our monthly review Magazine - Obscurity Unlimited, we will be taking the best new comic in three different catagories and making it the PICK OF THE MONTH. We will then send a copy of this pick to everyone that has subscribed to that catagory. You can chose from the Full Size Comic catagory, and we also have Digest, and Minicomic catagories. If you are interested in being among the first to see the best new, unknown comics, this is the place for you! You can order a subscription to this service online at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/BookClub.asp If you have any questions about what we're trying to do here, let's talk, your feedback is welcome! Ian Shires From LyleTucker@zianet.com Wed Oct 02 20:04:31 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 03:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 95893 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 03:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 03:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 03:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 18114 invoked by alias); 3 Oct 2002 03:04:52 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 2277 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2002 02:26:09 -0000 Received: from roswell0071.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.71) by zianet.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 02:26:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3D9BAAA6.4020809@zianet.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:25:42 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fantucchio References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Thanks for all the updated info on John, Aaron. I don't know if David and Coreen have John's address, but I would imagine they would appreciate getting it. If you feel it's appropriate to send it to them, contact 'em at coreen1978@adelphia.net -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Oct 04 04:02:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 86659 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:02:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Weekend Update Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1132 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 It's been a fun week of development for us at the SPA, as we've gotten lots of feedback on the Pick Of The Month, and have been getting ready to release Obscurity Unlimited #19. Just a few more reviews to write, some odds and ends, and the issue should be ready to start printing by Monday/Tuesday. You can expect all of our regular features in full force, which means lots of news, reviews, articles, and more. If you want to make sure you get a copy of the new issue, you can pop over to this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.a sp and find out how to order one. The Pick Of The Month has been generating talk around the comics community, and using the feedback, we've added some things to the info page about the project. You will now find a Trial Subscription level, for those who don't want to risk paying for a full year, and our cancellations policy is now clearly stated. Stop in and see the updated page at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/BookClub.asp We'll let you go with that, write in and let us know what you think! Ian Shires From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sat Oct 05 18:24:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 6 Oct 2002 01:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21407 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 01:24:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2002 01:24:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 01:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23756 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2002 01:24:41 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 23718 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2002 01:24:40 -0000 Received: from roswell0056.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.56) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 01:24:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3D9F90B0.8080805@zianet.com> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:24:00 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood , Ultra , Rics Subject: BARAKA (OT) From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're familiar with any of The Qatsi Trilogy: Koyaaniqatsi, Powaqqatsi, and Naqoyqatsi, directed by Godfrey Reggio, you'll love this movie, "Baraka." The word is a Sufi word which translates as "a blessing, or as the breath or essence of life from which the evolutionary process unfolds." Like the Qatsi Trilogy, there is no dialogue or narration - simply image and music. It contains some of the most arresting visual images you will likely see - the director, Ron Fricke, has an amazing eye. It was filmed in 24 countries on 6 continents. Those of you who are spiritually inclined will, I think, appreciate certain parts of it especially. I cannot recommend this film enough - it truly is a breathtaking experience and will cause you to examine your conceptions of the world. (For those who may've found the Philip Glass soundtrack on the Qatsis to be annoying -not me, but my wife was driven positively murderous! - you should find the musical variety and selection of this film easier to take) The film is out on DVD - I recommend the widescreen version. -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Oct 06 12:07:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 6 Oct 2002 19:07:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5481 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 19:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2002 19:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 19:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23162 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2002 19:07:48 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 23119 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2002 19:07:47 -0000 Received: from roswell0160.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.160) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 19:07:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3DA089F9.2020009@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 13:07:37 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood , kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , Ultra Subject: Updated Master Scan Trade List (OT) From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, folks - here's where I'm currently at. These are all the scans I have (I would still like to create a SCANAMANIACS Master Scan List, but so far Richard is the only one to send me lists of what he has - I won't go through the effort unless more people join in). I have 36 gigs of scans (have almost filled the 40 gig HD I put in earlier this year!). If you want to trade, it's simple - I trade 2 for 1 - go over my list and see what you have that I don't (I'm after *anything* I don't have). Put them on CDs and send 'em to me (Lyle Tucker, Box 1756, Roswell, NM, 88202-1756) - then, pick twice as many comics as you're sending me that you'd like from my list , and I'll toss 'em on disc and send 'em back to you. I'm sorry, but I don't sell scans - I only trade 'em. I also only trade Adult scans with people I know. I'm not going to take a risk that you're under 21. Happy hunting! -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Oct 06 12:12:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 6 Oct 2002 19:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 97511 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 19:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2002 19:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 19:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25470 invoked by alias); 6 Oct 2002 19:09:44 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 25451 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 2002 19:09:43 -0000 Received: from roswell0160.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.160) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 19:09:43 -0000 Message-ID: <3DA08A6E.80801@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 13:09:34 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, wood , kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, Ultra Subject: Re: [cbzines] Updated Master Scan Trade List (OT) References: <3DA089F9.2020009@zianet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Geez o' Pete! Here's the friggin' link: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/comics%20a-z%20oct%202002.txt -- Lyle Tucker Keep an eye out: "NOT BRAND ACK!" is Coming soon! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@sympatico.ca Tue Oct 08 19:21:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 9 Oct 2002 02:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 66520 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 02:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2002 02:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.35) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2002 02:21:02 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.97.112]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021009022059.TJLU27522.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:20:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3DA391AB.7D193891@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:17:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fanzine Talk in "I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS GUY!" (on shelves Wednesday!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan (Apologies to those who receive a variation on this message a million times, but at least there are no pop-up windows to porn sites we've all enjoyed recently, yes?) Ladies and gentlemen, Wednesday sees the publication of my first book, entitled "I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS GUY!" (from TwoMorrows Publishing - Comic Book Artist, Alter Ego, etc.) I interviewed the wives and partners of 15 comic book creators to capture what it is like to live with an artist/writer/creator in this industry, whether it be a freelancer or company man, '40s Golden Age impresario or '00s indie cult figure. Here, we compare and contrast the personalities, work habits, the struggles each creator and spouse had to endure to make their way in a sometimes unforgiving medium and the general craziness from living with men and women with their heads in the creative clouds. For those with interest in the world of fandom, the chapter on Jackie Estrada, who's been tied to West Coast fandom and the San Diego Comic Con since the beginning, weaves some interesting tales. The full line-up for the book includes Ann & Will EISNER, Joanie & Stan LEE, Muriel & Joe KUBERT, Adele & Harvey KURTZMAN, Josie & Dan DECARLO, Virginia & John ROMITA, Adrienne & Gene COLAN, Anne T. Murphy & Archie GOODWIN, Lindy & Dick AYERS, Loretta & Ric ESTRADA, Deni Loubert & Dave SIM. Melinda GEBBIE and Alan MOORE, Ed Sedarbaum & Howard CRUSE, Jackie Estrada & Batton LASH, and Julie & Dave COOPER. The book is 208 pages and FILLED with unpublished/rare artwork and photos from the archives of each participant. It is 8 =BD x 11" and retails for $19.95. You can purchase it directly from TwoMorrows at http://www.twomorrows.com/books.html#havetolive but I encourage you to support your local retailer and ask them to order it for you, if they don't have it in their store. Any questions, please feel free to ask at ditko37@sympatico.ca . You can view the full back and front cover here... http://www.ditko.comics.org/livecov.jpg and I'll be conducting a book signing and free lecture/slide show presentation hosted by THE BEGUILING http://www.beguiling.com/aboutus.htm in Toronto on MONDAY NOVEMBER 11, 2002 on the subject of my next book, STEVE DITKO: THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER. You can view all the information on the flyer here... http://www.ditko.comics.org/ditko/newsbeg.jpg Thank you for your time, everyone. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Oct 10 05:34:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 10 Oct 2002 12:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 93551 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 12:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2002 12:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2002 12:34:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2002 12:34:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:34:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OU #19 Release party! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2897 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Ok, so we'll call it an online party, but we wanted everyone to know that our biggest and best issue yet, Obscurity Unlimited #19, is going to the printers right now! If you haven't reserved your copy and want to make sure we get one to your mailbox, here's the page to go to for that: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/ this page also has a preview of the cover. We'd also like to take this opportunity to push another membership drive into motion, with all the great new projects we have going in the Small Press Association (SPA), we want to get as many people informed and involved with the group as possible. So here's a couple of our current hot topics, and you can come join in these discussions if you think you'd like to be a part of this growing movement. Our Group site is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obscurityunlimited/ The PICK OF THE MONTH (POTM): We're starting this project up and getting it running for January 2003. It's already gotten subscribers, and we think over time, we will have a hot system for taking the best new small press publication in many different catagories and getting it in the hands of lots of new readers. The idea is to pick the new, not known. Here's a page to go to if this sounds like something you'd want to be in on: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/BookClub.asp HOW TO: We're going to be revamping and expanding our online how-to section over the rest of this year, getting new articles and features posted, and lining up ongoing features for print in the magazine. We're looking for any and all how-to articles we can find, and you can be a help by telling us the ones you know of, or by joining the staff here and writing some yourself! DISTRIBUTION: In conjuntion with the POTM, we now are able to offer small press publications to retailers at wholesale prices, and will be developing a new Distribution Sheet, which will be sent with issues of OU to retailers. This will turn OU into an ordering guide for the retailers looking for the best unknown small press stuff to stock in their stores. We are now seeking out small press friendly retailers far and wide to send our introductory package to. YOU can help by sending us snail mail addresses of your local stores. There's even more going on at the SPA than that (Like our talk of starting up a new SPX/SPACE type show in Cleveland, Ohio) so we hope that you like what you hear here and will come on over to the SPA site ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obscurityunlimited ) and help the SPA push over the top. Everyone is welcome to forward this message to ANYONE they think will find it interesting and benefit from being informed about our efforts to innovate. November is going to be our 1 year anniversary...help us make it special by reaching our goal of 500 members by then. We're at 336 right now, let's go! Ian Shires From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Oct 14 21:17:43 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 04:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 335 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 04:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 04:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 04:15:07 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.1bd.10d88ef0 (25305) for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1bd.10d88ef0.2adcf045@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:15:01 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Nibert To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks again, Jim, for all of this information. I will definitely get something to him soon. It's terribly sad to hear this about such a good talent as Larry. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Oct 15 10:04:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 17:04:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 41653 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 17:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 17:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 17:04:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2002 17:04:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:04:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Printing Services Launch! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1800 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello there, if you've been in hiding and HAVEN'T heard about the Small Press Association yet, well, here's your best reason yet to check us out. We are now able to print Full Size comic books at rates that beat ANYBODY we know of. So if you are a comic book company looking for high quality printing and rates that are going to help you stay in business, read on... Here's the page to go to for full information: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing.asp Basically, we can get you 90 cents a copy for a full color cover, B+W interior regular size comic, 1000 copy minimum. And, we can do $1.40 a copy full color throughout. There are shipping and tax things that effect that base, and we will be posting more details at that page soon...but these prices blow out of the water any price I've seen elsewhere, next best being $1.13 for the B+W. Prices get even better for larger quantities. But check out that page for the details of what you get, then write us with your questions from there. We have been unable to affordably break the 1000 copy minimum order yet, but are hopefull to do that by years end. We can get smaller print runs, but not for better prices than that 1000 level (in other words, if you want fewer copies, we'll do it, but it costs the same, so it's not logical) We will be adding to our options and refining the pricing options to reflect the real costs AFTER taxes and shipping options as we go. We just wanted to get these base rates up and get a feel for how many people will find them good enough to go with. We think they will help lots of publishers save lots of money. Now, you let us know what you think, and how we can improve on the presentation of the info...Thank you! http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing.asp Ian Shires From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Oct 15 11:35:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 18:35:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 40050 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 18:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 18:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 18:35:19 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.1ba.7c8f2fc (3310) for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1ba.7c8f2fc.2addb9e0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:35:12 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] SPA Printing Services Launch! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian, YOU ARE THE MAN! Those prices sound great! I hope you get a bunch of solicitations from a huge fan base of artists and writers! Thanks for all of your hard work! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Oct 15 11:47:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 18:47:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 92395 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay6.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.38) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 18:47:04 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.146]) by smtprelay6.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 smtprelay6 Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with SMTP id H41DIE02.LA4 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:47:02 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] SPA Printing Services Launch! Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:46:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1ba.7c8f2fc.2addb9e0@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hopefully we'll have other deals in place as we go, for different size publications and lower print runs. We went with this size as our main and first effort, as it is the most likely to be used widely, and therefore make the rest, the smaller things, possible. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: KINGGEO3@aol.com [mailto:KINGGEO3@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:35 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] SPA Printing Services Launch! Ian, YOU ARE THE MAN! Those prices sound great! I hope you get a bunch of solicitations from a huge fan base of artists and writers! Thanks for all of your hard work! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Oct 24 04:53:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 24 Oct 2002 11:53:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 59553 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 11:53:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2002 11:53:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.88) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2002 11:53:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2002 11:53:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:53:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Launches new Group site Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1012 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Not that we're abandoning our long-standing site, but rather to enhance how the overall group works. As the main SPA group site has centered more and more on news and how-tos of the small press, much of the talent-pool aspect of the group has fallen off. Most of you know by now that we publish a bi-monthly anthology called Mysterious Visions, so we've started a group site under that name, with the sole intention of using it to help get people together, working on pages to print in that anthology. We've posted the rules of how it'll work, and are now inviting anyone interested in doing work with the anthology to join at the site. So that's that, here's the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MysteriousVisionsAnthology We will be seeing the hottest up and coming talents in the small press continue to use MVA as a showcase...we hope to count you among them. Ian Shires SPA Info page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA SPA News group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obscurityunlimited From pack2@fuse.net Mon Oct 28 14:06:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 28 Oct 2002 22:06:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 40719 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2002 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.189] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2002 22:06:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:05:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Larry Blakes New book Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 309 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.35.250 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Have you guys and gals seen Larry Blakes new paperback produced by Dan Nauenberg? It's gorgeous! I think Dan has taken us into a new era of small press. You gotta see it to believe it. I'm pretty inspired. I'm gonna try one of my own. Sounds pretty complicated to produce but the product is outstanding. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Oct 29 06:57:51 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 29 Oct 2002 14:57:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 97189 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 14:49:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2002 14:49:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 14:49:34 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.74.2584d7b3 (1320) for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <74.2584d7b3.2aeff9f4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:24 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can we buy the book? Do we contact Larry or a distributor? George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Oct 29 07:14:40 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 29 Oct 2002 15:14:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 74653 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 15:14:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2002 15:14:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.40) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 15:14:38 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.146]) by smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H4R10B02.PBL for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:35 -0500 To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <74.2584d7b3.2aeff9f4@aol.com> Importance: Normal From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can purchase this book online through Dimestore: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/DanielNauenburg/index.asp Look for the book on that page. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: KINGGEO3@aol.com [mailto:KINGGEO3@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:49 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book How can we buy the book? Do we contact Larry or a distributor? George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nauenbur@cts.com Wed Oct 30 10:01:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41083 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 18:01:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nauenbur@cts.com Received: from [66.218.67.163] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:56 -0000 X-Sender: nauenbur@cts.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31579 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 578 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "panasonicvodo" X-Originating-IP: 216.120.5.209 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98913984 X-Yahoo-Profile: panasonicvodo X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 30 Oct 2002 18:01:55 -0000 Samples of the book are at.. http://smallpresssyndicate.tripod.com/nightstar.htm and their is a Print and Mail order form for the book from the publisher at.. http://smallpresssyndicate.tripod.com/nightstar-order-form.htm Larry has 20 copies and i'm sure he can part with a few of them. Larry can be reached at the regular mailing address of... Larry Blake 69306 St. Rt. 124 Reedsville, OH 45772 Or go direct to the publisher via regular mail at.. Daniel Nauenburg 13741 Mercado Dr. Del Mar, CA 92014 Cover price is $3.oo and that includes shipping. Daniel Nauenburg. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Oct 30 10:15:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 30 Oct 2002 18:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 38035 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 18:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2002 18:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.40) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 18:15:42 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.146]) by smtprelay8.dc2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H4T42302.75B for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:15:39 -0500 To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or you can order it online at www.dimestoreproductions.com just do a quick search for Nightstar in the search form, and $3.00 still gets sent to the publisher and we guarantee delivery. Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: panasonicvodo [mailto:nauenbur@cts.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:01 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Blakes New book Samples of the book are at.. http://smallpresssyndicate.tripod.com/nightstar.htm and their is a Print and Mail order form for the book from the publisher at.. http://smallpresssyndicate.tripod.com/nightstar-order-form.htm Larry has 20 copies and i'm sure he can part with a few of them. Larry can be reached at the regular mailing address of... Larry Blake 69306 St. Rt. 124 Reedsville, OH 45772 Or go direct to the publisher via regular mail at.. Daniel Nauenburg 13741 Mercado Dr. Del Mar, CA 92014 Cover price is $3.oo and that includes shipping. Daniel Nauenburg. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From customego@yahoo.com Thu Oct 31 17:36:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 1 Nov 2002 01:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 31311 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 01:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Nov 2002 01:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2002 01:36:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2002 01:36:06 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 01:36:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Golden Age & Fanzine Micro Heroes Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 520 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Darrin Wiltshire" X-Originating-IP: 66.185.85.69 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21727027 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi Everyone, I've been making these fun micros of Golden Age characters with the help of Isaac Turner. I have also made quite a few characters from fanzines (many I had to guess colours for); if there is one you'd like to see made, just let me know. We have almost 150 characters done already and usually put a few more up every few days. We have also done some other characters, including our original characters. Have a look, and let me know what you think. Best, Darrin http://members.rogers.com/micro_heroes From thedocdor@yahoo.com Thu Oct 31 21:24:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34546 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 05:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Nov 2002 05:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2002 05:23:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thedocdor@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.190] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2002 05:23:11 -0000 X-Sender: thedocdor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 1 Nov 2002 05:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 61384 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 05:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Nov 2002 05:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2002 05:16:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.160] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2002 05:16:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 05:16:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Chicago Mini Con Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1396 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lance boucher" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97666693 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 01 Nov 2002 05:23:07 -0000 A few friends and I have been discussing maybe having a mini con around the Chicago area. It wouldn't be Wizard World or MotorCity it would be more for small press and the like. We're trying to do a con the way it should be and was back in the day! We have been getting alot of responses from other boards and Steve Keeter told me about your site. We will be getting a comittee together in the late winter /early spring and hopefully have something for the summer. It was suggested doing it the same time as WizardWorld but we don't know if that is feasable. I have one contact who knows the group Anime Central in Chicago, he is going to see if they can assist since they have past experience in this. The other reason I am writing is that I'm a great lover of clssic fandom from the early years and have a pretty good collection of old 'zines like the ones you mention. I am trying to find some fans from those years who are still active to have them come to our convention. I would also like to make INTER- FAN a place where we could preserve the history of fandom and show the younger folks what it was like and examples of the art. I would also like to yse our site as promotion of Small Press and Indie creators. Well let me know what you think. You can contact me thru our gallery page at: www.inter-fan.org Thanks for your time. DOC Boucher INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK. From thedocdor@yahoo.com Fri Nov 01 22:37:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21031 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2002 06:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2002 06:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2002 06:37:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thedocdor@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2002 06:37:50 -0000 X-Sender: thedocdor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 2 Nov 2002 06:02:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 66491 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2002 06:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2002 06:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2002 06:02:48 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.191] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2002 06:02:48 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 06:02:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Golden Age & Fanzine Micro Heroes Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 203 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lance boucher" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.189.232 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97666693 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 02 Nov 2002 06:37:48 -0000 --- Hey Darrin, Very cool site you got there I just love those figures. I was wondering if I could post your site on my forum at www.inter-fan.org. I think people will get a kick out of them. Ciao DOC From customego@yahoo.com Sat Nov 02 05:24:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 2 Nov 2002 13:24:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 70558 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2002 13:24:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2002 13:24:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11603.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.55) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2002 13:24:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20021102132444.61130.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.185.85.80] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 05:24:44 PST Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:24:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age & Fanzine Micro Heroes To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Darrin Wiltshire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21727027 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi Doc, That would be great! Glad you liked them. Best, Darrin --- lance boucher wrote: > --- Hey Darrin, > Very cool site you got there I just love those > figures. I was > wondering if I could post your site on my forum at > www.inter-fan.org. > I think people will get a kick out of them. > Ciao > DOC > > > ===== Visit the Mego Museum by Scott Carroll http://www.toymania.com/megomuseum Customego maintained by Darrin Wiltshire http://www.toymania.com/megomuseum/custom __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Nov 03 07:48:21 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 3 Nov 2002 15:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 76320 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2002 15:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2002 15:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 15:48:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12566 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2002 15:49:20 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 12291 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 2002 15:49:17 -0000 Received: from roswell0073.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.73) by zianet.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 15:49:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3DC544CB.6000106@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 08:46:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, atomic , goldenagers , fanzines , Ultra , inter Subject: HAWAIIAN DICK plug (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Just wanted to share these two pages of cool art from the upcoming new comic, HAWAIIAN DICK, by B. Clay Moore and Steve Griffin - it's really nice looking '50s retro stuff. Looks like the book will be a lot of fun! The comic is being put out by IMAGE in December - place your order with your comicshop now: http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/site16.jpg http://www.zianet.com/LyleTucker/site17.jpg -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Nov 03 08:01:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 3 Nov 2002 16:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 37698 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2002 16:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2002 16:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 16:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1691 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2002 16:02:58 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 1657 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 2002 16:02:57 -0000 Received: from roswell0073.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.73) by zianet.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 16:02:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3DC54800.40601@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:00:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age & Fanzine Micro Heroes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Hah! Interesting stuff, Darrin! I'm not familiar with the this Micro thing - is that a certain vein of interest all its own? The only recommendation I would give is to spice things up a bit and add a few more poses - just that one pose gets a little old, I think. -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From customego@yahoo.com Sun Nov 03 09:18:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 3 Nov 2002 17:18:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 97442 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2002 17:18:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2002 17:18:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11605.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.57) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 17:18:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20021103171807.51565.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.185.85.80] by web11605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:18:07 PST Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:18:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age & Fanzine Micro Heroes To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3DC54800.40601@zianet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Darrin Wiltshire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21727027 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego <> For more info on micros, go here: http://www.majorbend.com/micros/microhistory.htm <> There lies the problem. There are only several templates made, none with any real action poses. I still continue to make them mainly because it's all the artistic talent I can muster. :-) Best, Darrin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Nov 03 18:22:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 4 Nov 2002 02:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 88100 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 02:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2002 02:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 02:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26782 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2002 02:23:05 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 26713 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 2002 02:23:04 -0000 Received: from roswell0161.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.161) by zianet.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 02:23:04 -0000 Message-ID: <3DC5D950.7010003@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:20:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , saga , Ultra , atomic , goldenagers , goldenage , mightycomics@yahoogroups.com, Rics , music Subject: FIRST BATCH (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker In preparation for moving, I'm going to be putting a lot of stuff up on eBay in the next coupla months - these will be trade paperback collections, books about comics, fanzines, sci-fi and horror books, humour, rock 'n' roll, music CDs, etc. Many books will have starting bids at half their published prices. I will only bother the lists with each new batch I put up, and the header will always say "second batch (OT)" or "third batch (OT)" etc, so you will know to delete immediately if not interested. Thanks for your indulgence; and just like with voting, "Bid early and bid often!" Here's the link to the first batch: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?MyeBayItemsSelling&userid=lyle_tucker&pass=JvaTSlgYdAbPs3y7uCfwn12&first=N&sellerSort=3&bidderSort=3&watchSort=3&dayssince=2 If your browser mangled that rather lengthy link, than you can go here, and put in "lyle_tucker" after clicking the "By Seller" tab: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/basicsearch.html -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Nov 04 08:02:01 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 4 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 2405 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.155] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:02:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA's NEW FORUM Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2527 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello, all. We've been hard at work upgrading the SPA Forum, and are just about done, and it's ready for YOU to check it out. The URL: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum Here's just SOME of the new features: * EVENTS CALENDAR. The new calendar system allows members to post events that link back and forth with an active discussion topic, so Events are not just listed on the event page, but are linked to the information about the event and any discussion/questions that other members ask about it. It allows for a dynamic way to generate interest and presence for your events, be it an upcoming convention, your appearance at a store for a signing, a poetry reading/open mic night, we want our events calendar to serve as a place that small pressers can post their local appearances, and fans of small press can know where to find local events. * BUILT-IN CHAT. You can sign in, and check and see if anyone is in the lobby...or create a room for your own discussion group, whatever. We will be holding scheduled chats time-to-time, and you can announce your own scheduled chat as an event! Hold a new- issue "Release Party" online! * A LINKS PORTAL. You can add your website to the links, and people can visit it, and rate it. It allows banner display and full description, and makes a mighty fine ad system for websites. There are still a couple of things in configureation with it, so it'll be even better very soon. * File Upload/Portfolios. Our new system for giving members of the SPA a place to show off their work, have a place to share files, even graphics programs/addons, etc. We will use the photo gallery as a place to look for artwork for covers/pinups of SPA publications (we will ask permission/make an offer before use), and there will be a way to share works in progress with artistic partnerships you form in the group. The UPLOAD feature is not turned on yet, and members will have to be approved to use it, but it is almost ready to roll. There's a LOT more new about the forum, but those are the main features that we feel artists, writers, and publishers will have a real interest in. The SPA Forum is a FREE community, there are no dues, and coupled with the rest of the things that the SPA does, makes a great place to build your presence in the publishing world. We will be, soon, closing down our Yahoo Groups, and moving the SPA fully onto this one forum. We hope to see you there! The URL: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum Ian Shires From LyleTucker@zianet.com Tue Nov 05 18:02:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 02:02:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 44617 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 02:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 02:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 02:02:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 11850 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2002 02:03:23 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 11776 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2002 02:03:22 -0000 Received: from roswell0092.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.92) by zianet.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 02:03:22 -0000 Message-ID: <3DC877B9.2060507@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:00:25 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , Ultra , atomic , Rics , goldenagers , saga , inter Subject: On Hiatus until 2003 (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Gang, things at work have really picked up and the house fixing up project is taking all my free time, so I'm gonna switch to "No Mail" mode on all my lists. Except for my posting my eBay Batches (and if any List Wranglers would rather I not post these, just drop me a line and I'l gladly comply) I won't be interacting until probably some time in 2003. Let me go ahead and wish all my friends and acquaintances the best of Holiday Seasons! If you need to get in touch with me for any reason, please do so offline. Take care, folks, and I'll see you sometime in the New Year! -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From KINGGEO3@aol.com Wed Nov 06 06:12:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Nov 2002 14:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 76710 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 14:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2002 14:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 14:12:02 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.17.31224c5b (4238) for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:11:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17.31224c5b.2afa7d2b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:11:55 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] On Hiatus until 2003 (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy Holidays, Lyle! Yoou'll be missed, man! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Nov 08 17:00:13 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 9 Nov 2002 01:00:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 72117 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2002 01:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Nov 2002 01:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 01:00:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.142] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2002 01:00:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 01:00:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Announceing: The NEW SPA! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1255 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Today is a banner day in the 1-year history of the Small Press Association (SPA). We have Upgraded our forum, and have our Printing services ready to take orders. Here is the lowdown: We have great rates and the shipping information posted here for the Printing service we're developing: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing.asp We only have Full Color pricing for 2000 and 3000 copy print runs, 32 or 24 pages at present, but there are many more levels and B+W numbers almost ready. If you're printing full size comics, you owe it to yourself to check out our numbers as we post them, keep an eye out! The FORUM has been upgraded to an extreem, here's some of our new features: An EVENTS calendar, that allows members to post events they know of, and comment on attached threads about the event, question the event poster, etc. A PHOTO ALBUM / FILE LISTER, that allows members to have online portfolios of their work A JUKEBOX, where unknown bands can get tracks of their music up to be heard by small press at large. And there's so much more!! Just check in at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/ and check it out. The NEW SPA is ready to rock, we hope to see you there! Any Questions? Just ask! Ian Shires From LyleTucker@zianet.com Fri Nov 08 20:28:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 9 Nov 2002 04:28:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 43242 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2002 04:28:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Nov 2002 04:28:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 04:28:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 12080 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 2002 04:29:48 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 11999 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2002 04:29:47 -0000 Received: from roswell0113.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.113) by zianet.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 04:29:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3DCC8E87.5060203@zianet.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 21:26:47 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, wood , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, fanzines , Ultra , saga , goldenagers , Rics , music , international Subject: Second Batch (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Here're some more eBay items: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?MyeBayItemsSelling&userid=lyle_tucker&pass=JvaTSlgYdAbPs3y7uCfwn12&first=N&sellerSort=3&bidderSort=3&watchSort=3&dayssince=2 Or, go here, press the "By Seller" tab, and enter "lyle_tucker" in the SINGLE SELLER slot: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/basicsearch.html Thanks! -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Nov 10 21:39:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 69265 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.142] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:39:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I've got a Couple of COMICOLLECTORs on Ebay .... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 684 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Aaron Caplan" X-Originating-IP: 172.128.177.184 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Hi there! Just thought you might have an interest old pre-RBCC Comicollector fanzines including impossible to find #1. I'm selling lower grade copies of #'s 1, 4, 9, 10 and 14 on ebay under my "fugtussey" persona. If you want, check them out: Comicollector #1 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734598697 Comicollector #4 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734611993 Comicollector #9 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734607906 Comicollector #10 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734589572 Comicollector #14 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734626643 Caio, -Aaron Caplan- From thedocdor@yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 22:05:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95665 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2002 06:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2002 06:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2002 06:05:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thedocdor@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2002 06:05:34 -0000 X-Sender: thedocdor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 11 Nov 2002 05:12:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 92881 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2002 05:12:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2002 05:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2002 05:12:38 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2002 05:12:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:12:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Inter-Fan Update Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 360 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lance boucher" X-Originating-IP: 64.12.96.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97666693 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 11 Nov 2002 06:05:31 -0000 Hey all, Just updated the site somewhat and trying to make it more user friendly. I am looking for submissions to my creator gallery.(prose and/or graphics). Will hopefully be meeting with some folks and locking down a place to hold the con at. Also please join our forum and make yourselves known especially if you are from the Chicagoland area. Ciao DOC From CArchivist@aol.com Mon Nov 11 01:50:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 11 Nov 2002 09:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 46562 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2002 09:50:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2002 09:50:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2002 09:50:33 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.18e.115203a5 (3858) for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:50:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <18e.115203a5.2b00d764@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:50:28 EST Subject: Press Release: GRAND COMIC-BOOK DATABASE INITIATES ONLINE INDEXING To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Hello All, Sorry for those who get this cross-posting. As you can tell, I am posting this to almost all the lists I belong too. I know a few of you have been waiting to index online before you would index, so now here is your chance! Feel free to ask me if you have any questions. The GCD is a pretty important endeavor to preserving information about the past for those in the future. And it only relies on folks like you for help (We could use more help on old fanzines that need indexing)! my best -Ray Bottorff Jr Official Press Release From: The Grand Comic-Book Database Re: GCD online indexing starts Priority: [Urgent] Contact: Ray Bottorff Jr, CArchivist@aol.com, or (313) 982-1831 GRAND COMIC-BOOK DATABASE INITIATES ONLINE INDEXING NOVEMBER 11, 2002 -- The Grand Comic-Book Database (GCD), the most comprehensive Internet source for detailed information about the content of comic books old and new (www.comics.org) announced today that it has gone online with its web-based indexing. Long having been a goal of the organization, efforts to create a web-based interface to index comic books for the database was finally completed by Jon Lovstad, the GCD's webmaster. "After months of testing by a selected group, we've opened up the online indexing system to all our current indexers," said Lovstad. "It has been in the works for a long time and it's great to finally be there. However, we're not resting -- we're working on upgrading the system for greater speed and more features. The transition to a new system is in the works and we'll see the fruits of that in early November." "This is a very exciting time for us," said Lionel English, Chairman of the GCD's Board of Directors. "Online indexing opens up the project to a whole new set of indexers. With these new options, it's now easier to index one or two books at a time, rather than making the commitment to a large batch of issues. Also, having an actual interface is much friendlier for many indexers, which has led to a lot of activity from people who were intimidated by trying to put together plain text indexes." Previously, indexers would e-mail their work or physically mail a floppy disk to the GCD data coordinators. Using the GCD's guidelines for submission, an indexer could use computer programs like FileMaker Pro, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Word, or even something as simple as Notepad to create an index. Indexers who are still comfortable using such programs can continue to do so. However, with direct online indexing, comic book fans can now index their favorite comic book using the convenience of a web-based interface. "Now that we have on-line indexing, we are able to automate quite a few tasks and add additional functionality," reported GCD Board Member Will Allred. "These additions, coupled with the easy-to-use web interface, should allow comics fans from all over the world to continue to make the Grand Comic-Book Database project a truly global repository of information." Among the improvements are: expansion beyond the 255 character limit previous index formats required, a matrix to more easily add cover scans, and the inclusion of job codes to better assist researchers ito identify individual comic book story creation dates. A tutorial (http://www.comics.org/docs/tutorial/index.html) on the new online indexing format is available. Over 40,000 comic book covers have been uploaded to the database via the new interface in less than a year. That total is more than the number of comic book covers compiled by Ernest & Mary Gerber in their 1989 opus, "The Photo-Journal Guide to Comic Books". "The automated scan upload system has been a runaway success," Lovstad continued. "Our contributors are adding new covers to the site at a rate of 100 or more each day. Not only are new covers being uploaded, we're constantly upgrading earlier scans and thumbnail-only covers as well. We hope to pass 50,000 covers before our first anniversary for this section!" The GCD, an all-volunteer organization, was founded in 1994. The GCD's free online database of comic book information and credits is one of the largest and most diverse in the world. It currently has data from 1,849 publishers and imprints, nearly 10,000 comic book series, 41,350+ comic book cover scans (35,600+ in hi-resolution), 71,900+ indexed issues out of 116,963 registered, 358,300+ features, detailing more than one million creator credits. In addition, the GCD hosts several free e-mail-based international discussion forums and chat lists where comic book fans, historians, indexers, and scholars can ask questions and share their knowledge of comic book history. The GCD also hosts some dedicated fan-sites on comic book topics. The GCD project currently includes list participants and members from Australia, Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Participation in the GCD is free and is open to anyone interested in comic books and their history. For full information on the GCD, including how to join or how to contribute your indexing talents and comics knowledge, visit "http://www.comics.org/". -30- For further press information contact: Ray Bottorff Jr, CArchivist@aol.com or (313) 982-1831. From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 18:14:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 12 Nov 2002 02:14:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 35928 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 02:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Nov 2002 02:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 02:14:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.156] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2002 02:14:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:14:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Inter-Fan Update Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 834 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.242.181.51 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly And an extremely cool site it is too, DOC. I plan to post some stuff on there about my experiences over the decades in this here small press arena, as soon as I have the time to do it right. Kinda busy this week, it's all I can do to keep up with all the posts on my favorite sites, including this one and the Interfan site. --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "lance boucher" wrote: > Hey all, > Just updated the site somewhat and trying to make it more user > friendly. I am looking for submissions to my creator gallery.(prose > and/or graphics). > Will hopefully be meeting with some folks and locking down a place to > hold the con at. > Also please join our forum and make yourselves known especially if > you are from the Chicagoland area. > Ciao > DOC From thedocdor@yahoo.com Tue Nov 12 05:20:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60625 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 13:20:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Nov 2002 13:20:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 13:20:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thedocdor@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2002 13:20:27 -0000 X-Sender: thedocdor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 12 Nov 2002 05:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 45420 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 05:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Nov 2002 05:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 05:35:09 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2002 05:35:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:35:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Inter-Fan Update Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1163 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lance boucher" X-Originating-IP: 64.12.96.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97666693 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 12 Nov 2002 13:20:24 -0000 Thanks for the compliments Skeet. I am updating constantly which is why you don't see me on forums much right now. Anything you want to print just send to me and I can put it on the Fanzine History section. --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Steve Keeter" wrote: > And an extremely cool site it is too, DOC. I plan to post some stuff > on there about my experiences over the decades in this here small > press arena, as soon as I have the time to do it right. Kinda busy > this week, it's all I can do to keep up with all the posts on my > favorite sites, including this one and the Interfan site. > --skeet > > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "lance boucher" wrote: > > Hey all, > > Just updated the site somewhat and trying to make it more user > > friendly. I am looking for submissions to my creator gallery. (prose > > and/or graphics). > > Will hopefully be meeting with some folks and locking down a place > to > > hold the con at. > > Also please join our forum and make yourselves known especially if > > you are from the Chicagoland area. > > Ciao > > DOC From thedocdor@yahoo.com Wed Nov 13 04:48:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30443 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 12:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2002 12:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 12:48:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thedocdor@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.175] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2002 12:48:53 -0000 X-Sender: thedocdor@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 68637 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.185] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:05:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: I've got a Couple of COMICOLLECTORs on Ebay .... Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 852 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lance boucher" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97666693 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Nov 2002 12:48:53 -0000 How much for all five at low grade?? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@y..., "Aaron Caplan" wrote: > > > Hi there! > > Just thought you might have an interest old pre-RBCC Comicollector > fanzines including impossible to find #1. I'm selling lower grade > copies of #'s 1, 4, 9, 10 and 14 on ebay under my "fugtussey" > persona. If you want, check them out: > > Comicollector #1 - > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734598697 > > Comicollector #4 - > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734611993 > > Comicollector #9 - > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734607906 > > Comicollector #10 - > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734589572 > > Comicollector #14 - > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734626643 > > Caio, > > -Aaron Caplan- From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Nov 13 05:57:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 13 Nov 2002 13:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 33989 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 13:57:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2002 13:57:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 13:57:22 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.2b.30f266c0 (3858) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:57:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2b.30f266c0.2b03b437@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:57:11 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: I've got a Couple of COMICOLLECTORs on Ebay .... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 From: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Hi Doc! Probably all 5 will net me over $100, possibly up to $200 by bid end (there are already $80 in bids on 3 of the 5). -Aaron- From zmancomix@yahoo.com Thu Nov 14 14:59:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23109 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 22:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2002 22:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 22:59:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: zmancomix@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.134] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2002 22:59:57 -0000 X-Sender: zmancomix@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 14 Nov 2002 22:48:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 98670 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 22:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2002 22:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 22:48:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2002 22:48:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:48:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Question for Russ Maheras/MAELSTROM Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 254 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Joe Zierman" X-Originating-IP: 12.39.24.2 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70322720 X-Yahoo-Profile: joezierman X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 14 Nov 2002 22:59:55 -0000 Hey Russ. I had the pleasure of picking up MAELSTROM #8 from you in person at Wizard World Chicago. Has MAELSTROM #9 hit "the stands" yet? If not, let me know when it does; I enjoyed #8 and look forward to ordering the next issue. Thanks, Joe Zierman From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Nov 14 17:04:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Nov 2002 01:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 62242 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 01:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2002 01:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d09.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 01:04:13 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.fe.2093e8c5 (4222) for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:04:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:04:09 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Question for Russ Maheras/MAELSTROM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 180 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/14/2002 5:03:53 PM Central Standard Time, zmancomix@yahoo.com writes: > I had the pleasure of picking up MAELSTROM #8 from you in person at Wizard > World Chicago. Has MAELSTROM #9 hit "the stands" yet? Hi Joe! Glad you liked the issue! Maelstrom #9 is just in the planning stage but I may have it ready by next summer. I'll let you know, OK? Take care, Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Fri Nov 15 01:29:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Nov 2002 09:29:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 91642 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 09:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2002 09:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 09:29:36 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.126.1a7b406c (4246) for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:29:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <126.1a7b406c.2b061872@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:29:22 EST Subject: Question for Russ Maheras/CBG Index To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist While we are on the questions for Russ... Russ, Do you have any more copies of the index you did for the The Buyer's Guide? (or was it the CBG or both?) my best -Ray From mgilbert@efn.org Fri Nov 15 05:54:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Nov 2002 13:54:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 86247 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 13:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2002 13:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (66.178.136.10) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 13:54:26 -0000 Received: from [216.239.174.84] (dialup-ras2-84.eug.or.uspops.net [216.239.174.84]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFDsPR04133 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:54:25 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:51:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 309 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1037352207.189.32338.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable From: "Michael T. Gilbert" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Does anyone have copies of Marv Wolfman's old Stories Of Suspense fanzine =AD=ADthe one with the first Steven King story? I'd like to get copies of = the first page and cover for an article I'm writing. Best wishes, Michael T. From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Nov 15 07:38:50 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Nov 2002 15:38:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 2719 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 15:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2002 15:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 15:38:50 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.10.2853d8c8 (15864) for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m24.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v89.21) with ESMTP id MAILINID63-1115103843; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:38:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:38:43 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 309 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <748D0391.3628A7DE.0C38BCAA@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 In a message dated 11/15/2002 8:51:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, mgilbert@efn.org writes: > Does anyone have copies of Marv Wolfman's old Stories Of > Suspense fanzine > ­­the one with the first Steven King story? I don't have it, but keep in mind that it is the 2nd fanzine apperance of that story.... (if my memory is right) Steven Rowe SRoweCanoe@aol.com From rmaheras@aol.com Fri Nov 15 08:16:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 15 Nov 2002 16:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20633 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2002 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.42) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.18e.118aa872 (15887) for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m04.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.132]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v89.21) with ESMTP id MAILINID82-1115111604; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:16:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:16:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Question for Russ Maheras/CBG Index MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <307393A8.34863872.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Hi Ray! I did a comprehensive index of the first 400 issues of The Buyer's Guide for Comic Fandom in Maelstrom #8. It is still available for $5 postpaid (digest version) and $6 postpaid (magazine-sized version). You can order it from me at: Russ Maheras 144 Morgan Place Highwood, IL 60040 From mgilbert@efn.org Sat Nov 16 08:16:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 16 Nov 2002 16:16:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6158 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2002 16:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Nov 2002 16:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (66.178.136.10) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2002 16:16:18 -0000 Received: from [216.239.174.225] (dialup-ras2-225.eug.or.uspops.net [216.239.174.225]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAGGGDR19571 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 08:16:14 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 08:12:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 310 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1037438813.167.52937.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable From: "Michael T. Gilbert" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 on 11/16/02 1:26 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com at comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:38:43 -0500 > From: srowecanoe@aol.com > Subject: Re: Digest Number 309 >=20 > In a message dated 11/15/2002 8:51:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mgilbert@efn.org writes: >=20 >> Does anyone have copies of Marv Wolfman's old Stories Of >> Suspense fanzine >> =AD=ADthe one with the first Steven King story? >=20 > I don't have it, but keep in mind that it is the 2nd fanzine apperance of= that > story.... >=20 > (if my memory is right) > Steven Rowe > SRoweCanoe@aol.com >=20 >=20 > ___ I know. I asked Mike Garrett if he had copies of his zine which was the first printing of King's first s story (10 hectograph copies!) =AD=ADbut he doesn't have any copies. Drat! Best wishes, Michael T. From mvhaas@elpaso.net Sat Nov 16 17:15:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 17 Nov 2002 01:15:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 52524 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2002 01:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2002 01:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.9) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2002 01:15:16 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server2.elpaso.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAH1F2h8019736 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:15:07 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@mail.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1037438813.167.52937.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1037438813.167.52937.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:16:08 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Stories of Suspense and Steven King Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Merlin Haas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder At 9:26 AM +0000 11/16/02, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > >> Does anyone have copies of Marv Wolfman's old Stories Of >> Suspense fanzine >> --the one with the first Steven King story? > >I don't have it, but keep in mind that it is the 2nd fanzine >apperance of that story.... > >(if my memory is right) >Steven Rowe >SRoweCanoe@aol.com I just checked the zine. It's Stories of Suspense #2 (1966) and Steven is right, as usual. The story first appeared in Mike Garrett's "Comic Review" under the title "I Was a Teenage Grave Robber". (SoS title is: "In A Half-World Of Terror" by Steve King). It's credited as a reprint in SoS. Nice pulpish horror story, with touches of Lovecraft. How old was King when he wrote this, 16? best -- Merlin Haas From ditko37@sympatico.ca Wed Nov 20 20:39:58 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 04:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 37301 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 04:39:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 04:39:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.56) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 04:39:54 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.101.79]) by tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021121043951.IQFM1843.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DDC638A.A30C43DC@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:39:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Hello all. Your illustrious moderator here. I was wondering if anyone could help me track down (and provide copies) of the following fanzines... MARVEL MAIN #4 : Oct '68 - "An Interview With The Man Of Mystery - Steve Ditko" COMIC READER #13 : Feb '63 - Letter to editor from Stan Lee crediting Ditko with creation of Dr. Strange Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From escape@texhoma.net Wed Nov 20 20:55:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: escape@texhoma.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 04:55:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 74504 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 04:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 04:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scanmail3.cableone.net) (24.116.0.123) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 04:55:40 -0000 Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net ([10.116.0.123]) by scanmail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:54:14 -0700 Received: from scanmail3.cableone.net [24.116.0.123] by scanmail3.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A6F2893A00F8; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:54:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from (193-103.duncpe.cableone.net [24.116.193.103]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:54:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: escape@mail.texhoma.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DDC638A.A30C43DC@sympatico.ca> References: <3DDC638A.A30C43DC@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:52:00 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 X-SMTP-HELO: [24.116.193.103] X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: escape@texhoma.net X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 193-103.duncpe.cableone.net [24.116.193.103] From: escape@texhoma.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3199873 X-Yahoo-Profile: escape2010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hello all. Your illustrious moderator here. I was wondering >if anyone could help me track down (and provide copies) of the >following fanzines... > >MARVEL MAIN #4 : Oct '68 - "An Interview With The Man Of Mystery - >Steve Ditko" > >COMIC READER #13 : Feb '63 - Letter to editor from Stan Lee crediting > Ditko with creation of Dr. Strange > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. Blake I've got a copy of Marvel Main #4, buried DEEP in storage. (A housefire back in January wasnt too kind to my bookshelves of silver age books, but spared most of the boxes thankfully). If no one else replies here in the next couple of days, I'll be glad to hunt it up and send you photocopies and or scans, whatever works for you.... By the way, let me add my congrats to your fine efforts on I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS GUY. A great read, buddy! Best Lee [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Nov 20 21:33:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 05:33:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 43332 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 05:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 05:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 05:33:39 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.84.2a2e058 (4246) for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:33:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <84.2a2e058.2b0dca2b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:33:31 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 From: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Blake, I have Comic Reader #13 & 16. Definitely not in #13. The Stan letter is in #16. Do you want a scan? -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 11/20/02 11:41:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@sympatico.ca writes: > Hello all. Your illustrious moderator here. I was wondering > if anyone could help me track down (and provide copies) of the > following fanzines... > > MARVEL MAIN #4 : Oct '68 - "An Interview With The Man Of Mystery - Steve > Ditko" > > COMIC READER #13 : Feb '63 - Letter to editor from Stan Lee crediting > Ditko with creation of Dr. Strange > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@sympatico.ca Wed Nov 20 21:51:48 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 05:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 05:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 05:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.52) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 05:51:47 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.101.79]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021121055146.ZHPZ24515.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DDC7464.FFED9080@sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:51:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 References: <84.2a2e058.2b0dca2b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > Hi Blake, > > I have Comic Reader #13 & 16. Definitely not in #13. The Stan letter is in > #16. Do you want a scan? > > -Aaron Caplan- Hi Aaron. That would work for me, thanks. Why not post it in the FILES section of the list's web site... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ ..for all to see. Of course, for MARVEL MAIN #4, I meant just the Ditko interview. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Nov 20 21:54:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 05:54:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 77216 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 05:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 05:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 05:54:58 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.a4.2fb75e67 (4246) for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:54:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:54:49 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 From: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Will try to get it done by tomorrow. -Aaron- In a message dated 11/21/02 12:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, ditko37@sympatico.ca writes: > Hi Aaron. That would work for me, thanks. Why not post > it in the FILES section of the list's web site... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ > > ..for all to see. > Of course, for MARVEL MAIN #4, I meant just the Ditko interview. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tazwert@yahoo.com Fri Nov 22 11:52:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 22 Nov 2002 19:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 65231 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2002 19:52:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Nov 2002 19:52:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13807.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.17) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2002 19:52:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20021122195209.69789.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.104.244.38] by web13807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:52:09 PST Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:52:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: OT?: X-Men and Star Wars action figure auctions To: Comic Book Fanzines List - Yahoo! 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Nov 25 10:46:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Nov 2002 18:46:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 85534 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.142] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2002 18:46:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:46:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Update Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2557 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello everyone, just taking a moment before the holiday to go around and let the places that have been following the development of the Small Press Association know what's new. We've completely re-done the JUKEBOX system, and it is ready now to serve the independant music scene as much as the rest of the SPA serves comic book and zine publishing. We can now list albums with cover art and mp3s linked to information about the band, and if the band sends in a copy of their CD, we will link it to a buy now button as well so that we can sell CDs as easily as we sell the comics and zines we have been. We'll be able to add these CDs to our distribution sheet, which means we'll be able to get our print magazine, Obscurity Unlimited, into more record stores. Anyone and everyone interested in checking this out, listening to music from groups you haven't heard of yet, or getting your band's music in there, check out: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Music We think this cross-pollination of music and publications will really increase interest in all things small press, and help the Dimestore system solidify it's budding distribution avenue. But we haven't spent ALL our time on the Music, we've also started solidifying plans to bring a comics/zine festival to Cleveland next year. Keep an eye out for more information on that in our FORUM: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/ And we'd also, while we have your attention, like to point out that our Printing Service is now fully ready to take orders for printing of Full Size, Full Color comic books, for the cost most are paying for their B+W comics. Our B+W numbers will follow in the new year, but why go B+W when you can go full color for the same price you're paying now? Check that out here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing.asp Finally, our Pick of the Month system is picking up steam, with a good number of subscribers already subscribed, who will receive a copy of the first Pick of the Month when the next issue of OU goes to press in January. It's a great way to get the BEST small press comic books that come out each month, and it also makes a great christmas gift for any comic reading friend or family member! Check out this (and how to get considered to BE a pick) at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/BookClub.asp Ok, enough updates! Hope you and yours have a great holiday season. Me, I have about 3 months work to squeeze into next month...so I'll probably be fairly quiet till then! Take care! Ian Shires From LyleTucker@zianet.com Mon Nov 25 20:18:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 26 Nov 2002 04:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 35761 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2002 04:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2002 04:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (204.134.124.201) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2002 04:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10816 invoked by alias); 26 Nov 2002 04:20:18 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 10764 invoked by uid 0); 26 Nov 2002 04:20:17 -0000 Received: from roswell0052.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.52) by zianet.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2002 04:20:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3DE2F5C0.2050602@zianet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:17:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: music , kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, saga , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com, Rics , fanzines , goldenagers , Ultra , wood , atomic Subject: eBay Third Batch (OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Comic and music related items: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=lyle_tucker&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 or, go here, click the "By Seller" tab, and enter "lyle_tucker": http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/basicsearch.html -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - delayed, but well worth the wait! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@sympatico.ca Mon Dec 02 13:27:21 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@sympatico.ca X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 2 Dec 2002 21:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 78853 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2002 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.53) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.100.155]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021202212719.HJXF4359.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:27:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DEBD02A.9255C398@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:27:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-SYMPA (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA MIME-Version: 1.0 To: charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, cdbl-chat@fm.cybercomm.no, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: STEVE DITKO COVER GALLERY up at DITKO LOOKED UP! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77856803 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan We're back with another DITKO LOOKED UPdate! The NEWS section continues to rock'n'roll with news of the Fantagraphics W.W. NORTON Spring 2003 catalog hot off the presses! Check out the STEVE DITKO: THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER entry (two whole pages!) and thrill to the continued anticipation. An extreme highlight of this update is the addition to the site of the STEVE DITKO COVER GALLERY brought to you by the man who gave the 'Net the Silver Age Marvel Comics Cover Index, Nick Simon! Uncover all the details in the NEWS Section at... http://www.ditko.comics.org/ditko/news.html Enjoy, and please do let us know if you have anything (artwork, rare Ditko artifacts, news, or comments and criticisms) to contribute. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ http://www.snyder-ditko.com From nova64@mchsi.com Sat Dec 07 07:51:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30188 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 15:51:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 15:51:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 15:51:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.187] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2002 15:51:58 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 15:48:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 57456 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 15:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 15:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 15:48:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.153] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2002 15:48:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:48:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Super Adventures - the Marv Wolfman fanzine.... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 287 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Doug " X-Originating-IP: 12.217.211.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Dec 2002 15:51:56 -0000 Hi, everyone! I was wondering if anyone has available, or knows where I can find, copies of Marv Wolfman's fanzine 'Super Adventures'? It was produced from about 1966 until about 1969. I believe there were about 10 issues total. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Doug From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Dec 18 15:37:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 18 Dec 2002 23:37:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 4611 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2002 23:37:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2002 23:37:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2002 23:37:36 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.11.508a7c3 (4196) for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:37:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <11.508a7c3.2b3260b4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:37:24 EST Subject: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still in need of a copy of the Ditko interview in Marvel Main #4. It was promised one 3 weeks ago but it never arrived and I can't get the sender to respond to my emails. I had planned to reprint it in RBCC #4 (which I'll be finishing up in the next 2 weeks) to accompany a 25,000 word article I wrote on Ditko's Spider-Man. --James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Dec 19 05:53:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 19 Dec 2002 13:53:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 94955 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2002 13:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Dec 2002 13:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2002 13:53:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2002 13:53:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:53:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Free Minicomic!! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2180 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires " X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello all, Ian Shires here from the Small Press Association (SPA). I'm going around today to try to give away some free minicomics! Of course, nothing is COMPLETELY free, but I guarentee, what you have to do to get your free minicomic will not cost you a penny. What comic will you get? How about the new issue of Dungar! That's right, the just-released Dungar #49, a 16 page minicomic written by myself and drawn by Damien Ashton. It's a fantasy/adventure series, set on another world, where ANYTHING can happen. In this issue, Dungar joins a group of bandits... What do you have to do to get it? Simple: Join the SPA Forum. Take 2 minutes, there is very little required info, mainly choose a screen names and give an e-mail address, and when we see your registration, we'll send you an e-mail asking for a snail mail address to send the comic to. We're doing it that way as most people don't like to have address info required on forums and such. The URL? http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/ It is our hope that once you've seen the forum, you'll enjoy it and visit it often, to read news of small press publications from the rest of the small press publishers, look at the artwork of members in the photo albums, check out the animations we're loading up in the Animation Theatre page, check out the MP3 Jukebox - lots of music by unknown bands ready for listening, and lots more. Of course, any writers, artists or publishers out there will find tons of usefull resources at their disposal. But the group is not just for creators, it's for fans too. And thus this giveaway. We hope you'll take advantage of it, and get to know the SPA better. www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum NOTE: The Forum is optimized to be viewed with the latest browsers, and older versions of Netscape do not work well with it at all. You need to have cookies and Java enabled in your browser for it to run properly, and Firewalls cause problems too. If you do have problems getting on, we apologize: e-mail us, and we'll try to work with you to identify your specific problem. Ian Shires Publisher, Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum From rmaheras@aol.com Sat Dec 21 16:49:28 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 22 Dec 2002 00:49:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 38551 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2002 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Dec 2002 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2002 00:49:27 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.113.1c74668d (3866) for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:49:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <113.1c74668d.2b366615@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:49:25 EST Subject: Steve Canyon art (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 230 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I donated a piece of original art to the series of auctions hosted by Insight Studios that are designed to help Patricia Morrow, widow of Gray Morrow, defray some of the medical bills left over from Gray's long illness. The art is an authorized Steve Canyon Sunday strip I did for the Air Force Times in 1997 to commemorate both the 50th anniversary of the Air Force and Steve Canyon. It is the only authorized Canyon strip done since Milt Caniff died in 1988. The art is currently up on eBay (Item # 2150690694) and will be up there for four more days. While I'm no Steve Ditko, the money generated by the sale of the art goes for a great cause. Check it out! Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@zianet.com Sun Dec 22 13:47:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lyletucker@zianet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 22 Dec 2002 21:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 55556 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2002 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Dec 2002 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO klaatu.zianet.com) (216.234.192.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2002 21:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17518 invoked by alias); 22 Dec 2002 21:49:44 -0000 Delivered-To: alias-outgoing-comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com@outgoing Received: (qmail 17156 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 2002 21:49:40 -0000 Received: from roswell0057.zianet.com (HELO zianet.com) (207.66.44.57) by zianet.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2002 21:49:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3E0631F9.7000507@zianet.com> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:43:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Gleeson ,Gordon Green ,Gordon Green ,Ron Frantz , Dick Ayers ,Greg Theakston ,"Michael T. Gilbert" , Michael Hill , Jose ,Anubis , Art Lortie ,Mark Cannon ,Mark Muller , Mark Cannon ,mark reznicek , Chuck ,Dave Rawlins ,shane foley ,Randy Sargent ,Russ Maheras , Gary Arkell ,Mike Kidson , Gartfam@webtv.net,"Cory!!" ,laurie anderson ,Tom Morehouse , Doc V ,Rob Averbeck ,Pete Wallace ,Costas Paximadas , Norrin Radd , Dennis ,Stan Taylor ,Nigel Kitching ,richard lemon , Richard Croxton ,wood , kirby-l@yahoogroups.com,HaroldJMay@aol.com, Mike Paynor ,Leonardo De =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1?= ,Darrin , Al Sirois ,Al Bigley ,fanzines ,Ultra , Rolf Gerdau ,Alon , Tom Kraft ,James Cassara ,Jack Selegue , scanamaniacs@yahoogroups.com,saga Subject: Season Wishes (and personal update) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lyletucker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73634558 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker No matter what your beliefs or disbeliefs, no matter what your political stance, this has been a rough year, I think, for everyone. The world is never static, but the events of this past year and the spectre of things to come has put a strain on us all. Throughout it, though, we have shared with each other our joys and griefs - we've had some fights and differences, but we've mended some fences, as well as torn others down. Despite the fact that most of us know each other only through this electronic means, we've formed a kind of community, and we harbor real feelings toward one another. In that spirit, I'd like to wish you and your families a wonderful holiday season. You are all good people struggling to get along the best you can, and that's something we all share. The past coupla months have been hectic for me, personally. On top of the efforts to get the house ready for sale and the pick-up of mail at work, we've had four firings, leaving us way understaffed, so overtime has been through the roof. I'm just getting on the other side of an illness I've been fighting for the past two and a half weeks - I had developed an infected cyst on the back of my neck which eventually grew to the size of a small grapefruit cut in half (and let me tell you, it *hurt* like a sunuvagun!). To make matters worse, after I'd been on peni- cillin for a week, we found out it was a penicillin-resistant strain (my luck to a "T"). After having had it lanced and on the right medicine for the past 4 days, it's back down to the size of a large marble and everything appears to be going well. Knock on wood (yes, my forehead will suffice). I still plan on putting out my fanzine, NOT BRAND ACK!. I have reluctantly pushed the projected date of release for sometime in March. It kills me to type that, but there it is. I thank everyone who has contributed, and apologize for the terrible setbacks. I entered into this project completely ignorant of what it would actually take, and am still existing somewhere in that domain, undoubtedly, yet am committed to making it happen. Fools rush in, etc, etc. Your patience is appreciated. It may sound trite, but I wish you all peace. -- Lyle Tucker NOT BRAND ACK! - dammit, *still* on it's way! See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From KINGGEO3@aol.com Thu Dec 26 08:19:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 26 Dec 2002 16:19:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 84252 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2002 16:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2002 16:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2002 16:19:03 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.197.12e8d8ea (4410) for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <197.12e8d8ea.2b3c85eb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:18:51 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Season Wishes (and personal update) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10581 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope everything is going much better for you this holiday season, Lyle! I couldn't agree with you more about your feelings on these great fanzine lists we're on. A truly great group of guys sharing their love for this genre with each other. Have a great holiday season everybody! George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tazwert@yahoo.com Tue Dec 31 07:05:57 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 31 Dec 2002 15:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 9303 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 15:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2002 15:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13808.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.18) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 15:05:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20021231150556.57612.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.104.244.38] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 07:05:56 PST Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 07:05:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Happy New Year To: Bronze Age List - Yahoo! , Comic Art List - Yahoo! , Comic Book Fanzines List - Yahoo! , Will Eisner List , Sequential Art List - Yahoo Cc: Comic Auction Post List - Yahoo! , Comic book Auctions List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert I just want to wish everyone a happy, peaceful, safe and prosperous new year! May all your comics be great ones! Peace Paul Ewert ===== ************************************************************ Looking for mental simulus? Join Quotes Du Jour! To join send a blank e-mail to quotes-dujour-subscribe@yahoogroups.com =================================================== ==========> http://tazwert.blogspot.com/ <=========== ***************************************************************** <<< Dave Sim no es el diablo. >>> Dave Sim ist nicht der Teufel. Dave Sim ist nicht der Teufel. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Jan 01 10:15:50 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 1 Jan 2003 18:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 93826 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2003 18:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jan 2003 18:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2003 18:15:49 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2003 18:15:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:15:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] MARVEL MAIN #4 / COMIC READER #16 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DDC7464.FFED9080@sympatico.ca> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1386 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Aaron Caplan " X-Originating-IP: 172.156.72.61 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Blake, Sorry about the delay in getting the Comic Reader #16 scan with the Stan Lee letter about Ditko into the "File" section. The laptop I use with my scanner has been dead for over a month now, so I finally broke down & attached it to my desktop. Well, better late than never!! -Aaron Caplan- --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Blake Bell wrote: > > fugtussey1@a... wrote: > > Hi Blake, > > > > I have Comic Reader #13 & 16. Definitely not in #13. The Stan letter is in > > #16. Do you want a scan? > > > > -Aaron Caplan- > > Hi Aaron. That would work for me, thanks. Why not post > it in the FILES section of the list's web site... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/ > > ..for all to see. > Of course, for MARVEL MAIN #4, I meant just the Ditko interview. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > > * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : > http://www.ditko.comics.org > * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : > http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org > * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : > http://www.ess.comics.org > * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : > http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ > http://www.snyder-ditko.com From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Thu Jan 02 21:20:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 3 Jan 2003 05:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21072 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 05:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2003 05:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 05:20:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2003 05:20:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 05:20:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strange Tales Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 575 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Robert Gustaveson " X-Originating-IP: 12.208.151.71 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12569485 X-Yahoo-Profile: NinthNebula10 http://www.ditko.comics.org/ditko/news.html wow that is exciting; hope I get a copy of the $39.00 book on Ditko. I will always feel Ditko's best work was Doctor Strange (perhaps tied with some Amazing Spider-man comics, Capt. Atom etc.) I wrote a small article on Dr. Strange/Ditko beginning last year on my web page (suddenly I'm attached to my comics again): http://www.geocities.com/ninthnebula10/strange-tales-comics-4sale.htm Wonder if the Dr. Strange film will get made. And if Steve Ditko will get to influence it. http://graphic-illusion.com Best, Rob G From jthowse@bellsouth.net Sat Jan 11 23:13:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47057 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 07:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2003 07:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 07:13:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jthowse@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2003 07:13:38 -0000 X-Sender: jthowse@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 12 Jan 2003 05:57:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 49594 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2003 05:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2003 05:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2003 05:57:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2003 05:57:46 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:57:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Past Sales Info Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 628 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jeff_howse1018 " X-Originating-IP: 68.159.163.45 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=129037741 X-Yahoo-Profile: jeff_howse1018 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 12 Jan 2003 07:13:37 -0000 Hi! I just recently joined the group and would like to know if anyone can help me. I'm interested in past sales data from as early as I can get them to late 80's/early 90's. I know that The Comic Reader published a Top 100 list in the late 70's/early 80's. I've recently got hold of a couple of these issues and the sales info is very interesting (Arak, Son of Thunder was one of DC's top-selling titles at one point?!) But is there another source for the years the Comic Reader didn't publish this list? Maybe the Comics Buyers Guide or Amazing Heroes? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! From nova64@mchsi.com Wed Jan 15 20:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49896 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 04:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2003 04:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 04:23:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.152] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2003 04:23:16 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 16 Jan 2003 03:30:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24890 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2003 03:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2003 03:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2003 03:30:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.128] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2003 03:30:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:30:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: For anyone who might be interested.... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 408 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Doug " X-Originating-IP: 12.217.211.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 16 Jan 2003 04:23:15 -0000 For anyone who might be interested in the Super Adventures' fanzine character, Black Nova, I have a section devoted to him on my Nova page. Black Nova was Marv Wolfman's prototype for his later Marvel character; Nova. Go to www.novaprimepage.com, click on Adventures, then click on Star/Black Nova. If anyone has more info about the Star and Black Nova characters, please let me know! Thanks! Doug From alortie@tmlp.com Fri Jan 17 08:40:31 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 17 Jan 2003 16:40:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 47114 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 16:40:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2003 16:40:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.tmlp.com) (209.117.42.249) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 16:40:28 -0000 Received: from l3s5x9 [207.86.249.225] by mail.tmlp.com (SMTPD32-7.06) id AC3A3EE0154; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: <005d01c2be43$b458cd00$e1f956cf@tmlp.com> To: Cc: , , , , Subject: EC Fan Addict #2 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:15:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Declude-Sender: alortie@tmlp.com [207.86.249.225] X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. From: "Arthur Lortie" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3626745 X-Yahoo-Profile: neversurrender8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to locate a copy of EC Fan Addict #2, a fanzine I know very little about, unfortunately, in terms of date or publisher. The cover [attached -- for those groups that allow attachments] advertises that "This issue: Spotlighting Adam Link, Robot" and I'd like to see if I could round up xeroxes / scans -- if not an actual copy. Contact me off list if you wish. Arthur Lortie 16 Adams Street #3 Taunton, MA 02780-2504 USA ALortie@tmlp.com 508-828-5821 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord: #7: When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Jan 20 05:21:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 20 Jan 2003 13:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 35766 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 13:21:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2003 13:21:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 13:21:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.156] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2003 13:21:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:21:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Projects Explosion Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1251 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires " X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 We're making our rounds today to get the word out on some great things going on with the Small Press Association. If you haven't been by the Forum lately, there are a TON of projects going on right now ( http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/ ), including a Calendar project, A number of available paying jobs in the Talent Pool, a Comics in the Classroom Project, and the Small Press Hall Of Fame. All things worth checking out. The Hall Of Fame project is in active seeking mode for people who know small press history, and are willing to write articles about it. Our goal is to have an online place that will show the history of small press from many different angles and perspectives. This will also lead to a foundation that will act much like other hall of fame organizations, and honor individuals, and eventually have an actual museum. Anyone interested in that project, check out this thread: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/forum/topic.asp? TOPIC_ID=475 or write to History@dimestoreproductions.com Ok, I'll let you all go this morning, Let's have a good, productive week. Take a moment out of your day, by the way, to remember Martin Luther King, Jr., and the ideals he set forth his life to see grow. Ian Shires From nova64@mchsi.com Thu Jan 23 20:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 59897 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 04:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 04:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 04:36:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.151] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2003 04:36:53 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 04:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 37625 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.161] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2003 04:26:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:26:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I'm sure everyone knows this but... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 198 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Doug " X-Originating-IP: 12.217.211.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Jan 2003 04:36:50 -0000 here are some awesome books about comic fandom and fanzines by Bill Schelly. Personally, I loved his Fandom's Finest Comics. http://www.billschelly.com/pages/books.html Have a great night! Doug From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Jan 31 05:53:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 31 Jan 2003 13:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27819 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 13:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2003 13:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 13:53:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.155] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2003 13:53:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:53:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OU #20 Now Available! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2022 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires " X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.146 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 We've just printed the first batch of Obscurity Unlimited #20, and it's winging it's full color way out to subscribers right now! With 32 pages of news, features and reviews (with color cover reproductions!) of over 100 comic books, zines, and CDs, it's our biggest issue yet. This issue is a true milestone issue, as it not only marks our return to monthly issues of OU, but introduces some great new things for the small press. You can get a copy RIGHT NOW, by clicking here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.a sp Included with this issue for those who chose to participate, are the first Picks of the Month! Each month, we are picking a publication from a number of categories, and naming it the pick of the month. People can subscribe to this, and we will be sending out the publications they choose to receive with their monthly issue of OU. This also ties together with our new SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE. That's right, you can now use our handy mail-in form to pick and chose to receive copies of small press comics with your monthly dose of OU, so, say, you want to receive everything that Matt Feazell puts out, you check the box, and you will only pay for copies that are delivered. No pre-pay, just name your choices, we'll send the books, and as long as you pay the invoice each month, we'll keep sending you the small press publications you want. OU is now going out in 5 different cities in local editions, being given away in comic stores and record stores, with well over 1,000 copies an issue, and growing. So as you can see, the Obscurity Unlimited small press promotion machine is kicking into high gear. To top that all off, we've just completed the first stage of a re- vamp of the Dimestore website, making it much more cross-browser friendly and we've got a LOT more in the horizon. If you haven't been to the site lately, it's time to check it over anew. http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/ Ian Shires Publisher, Dimestore Productions From dlarm1951@aol.com Wed Feb 05 18:37:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15294 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 02:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2003 02:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 02:37:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: dlarm1951@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.251] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2003 02:37:24 -0000 X-Sender: dlarm1951@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 5 Feb 2003 20:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 98108 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 20:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2003 20:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 20:30:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.152] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2003 20:30:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:30:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New member Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1158 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "lionsroar2001us " X-Originating-IP: 4.60.122.155 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64684929 X-Yahoo-Profile: lionsroar2001us X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Feb 2003 02:37:23 -0000 Hi: My name is David Armstrong and I am a new member to the list. You may have seen me bidding on fanzines from the early-mid 60s. I have been reading fanzines since my early collecting days. The first 'zines I purchased were Alter Ego #4, Star Studded #2, Masquerader #6, and Rocket's Blast #25 (great Alan Weiss Hawkman cover). I got to "catch up" with the early Biljo White 'zines when I bought Paul Gambaccini's runs of Komix Illustrated and ComiCollector - they're all gone except Limbo (KI #10). I decided to start collecting fanzines again about a year or two ago. I really liked Biljo White, Ronn Foss, Grass Green and Bill Dubay. BTW, in the mid 60s, I sent Grass a fan letter and he sent back an illustrated 3 page letter! As it turns out, I also published a 'zine (one issue) in late '65 - shipped early '66 - The Comics Journal. I also drew a character - The Duke of Danger. Fortunately, for the world at large, there was never a second issue and no future adventures of "The Duke." If there's anyone who sent money for a subscription, let me know and I'll refund your money! I look forward to hearing from you... DA From waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Thu Feb 13 11:12:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3913 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:08 -0000 X-Sender: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 13 Feb 2003 19:07:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 55956 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:06:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:06:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:06:54 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.160] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:06:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:06:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1499 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "waltsland_1999 " X-Originating-IP: 67.115.155.121 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=111050280 X-Yahoo-Profile: waltsland_1999 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:06 -0000 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "lionsroar2001us " wrote: > Hi: > > My name is David Armstrong and I am a new member to the list. You > may have seen me bidding on fanzines from the early-mid 60s. I have > been reading fanzines since my early collecting days. The > first 'zines I purchased were Alter Ego #4, Star Studded #2, > Masquerader #6, and Rocket's Blast #25 (great Alan Weiss Hawkman > cover). I got to "catch up" with the early Biljo White 'zines when I > bought Paul Gambaccini's runs of Komix Illustrated and ComiCollector - > they're all gone except Limbo (KI #10). > > I decided to start collecting fanzines again about a year or two > ago. I really liked Biljo White, Ronn Foss, Grass Green and Bill > Dubay. BTW, in the mid 60s, I sent Grass a fan letter and he sent > back an illustrated 3 page letter! > > As it turns out, I also published a 'zine (one issue) in late '65 - > shipped early '66 - The Comics Journal. I also drew a character - > The Duke of Danger. Fortunately, for the world at large, there was > never a second issue and no future adventures of "The Duke." If > there's anyone who sent money for a subscription, let me know and > I'll refund your money! > > I look forward to hearing from you... > > DA From waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Thu Feb 13 11:12:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 44478 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:12:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:59 -0000 X-Sender: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 13 Feb 2003 19:10:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 3745 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:10:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:10:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:10:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Two New Groups !!!!!!!!! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 251 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "waltsland_1999 " X-Originating-IP: 67.115.155.121 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=111050280 X-Yahoo-Profile: waltsland_1999 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Feb 2003 19:12:57 -0000 Here are two groups I've just started , they should just fit in around here !!!!!!!!! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sicbg ...aaand... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seerbcc Perhaps you can guess as to what their subjects are !!!!!!!!! From waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Thu Feb 13 11:31:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 73469 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:31:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.142] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:31:05 -0000 X-Sender: waltsland_1999@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 13 Feb 2003 19:30:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20710 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 19:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:30:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.153] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2003 19:30:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:30:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Current Fanzines !!!!!!!!! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1020 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "waltsland_1999 " X-Originating-IP: 67.115.155.122 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=111050280 X-Yahoo-Profile: waltsland_1999 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 Feb 2003 19:31:04 -0000 Hey , what and to what extent are ther current-day comics fanzines , even ( gasp ) perhaps concentrating on , or at least covering , relatively recent comics ? I get CBG , and , in the most recent issue , I saw an ad for a Daredevil fanzine , claiming a large # of issues ( and OF COURSE they'd never lie , the Man Without Fear wouln't let...) , and , I've seen a Spider-Man zine's ad , likewise . So , that's for " literal " , Batmania-style , single-character mags... Myself , a yearish? back , I used their " free ads " thing to plug a zine I was going to put out...I was honest...I didn't say " send money " . They were teaser ads... Anyone ever see a middish-90s zine called ENTERTAIN YOUR BRAIN , out of Wisconsin IIRC ? The editor - you guessed it - owes me money/an issue/a Barker reprint !!!!!!!!!!! ( He doesn't , actually , owe me a Barker reprint - Actually , an ad in his zine sold a mid-80s reprint of this Quality obscurity , which DC , apparently , let lapse rather than pick up . ) From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 13 12:08:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 13 Feb 2003 20:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11263 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 20:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2003 20:08:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 20:08:24 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.aa.1853f199 (4196) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:08:20 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Current Fanzines !!!!!!!!! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose I should mention that Rocket's Blast Comicollector #4 is now available. 8 1/2 x 11, 128 pages. Full color front cover by Mark Schultz (this previously unpublished painting also appears in the new Wandering Star Conan book, although it is slightly smaller in dimension there than on the RBCC) The back cover is a previously unpublished science fiction painting by Al Feldstein in the EC tradition (but it is not an EC cover recreation). Articles include a 25,000 word overview on the "Steve Ditko Spider-Man", an article on Reed Crandall's 1940s super hero art for Quality Comics. An interview with Mark Schultz (including lots of art from Xenozoic and some B&W art from Conan). An article by Gary Brown on fandom in the 1970s including a rare photo of Frankenstein artist Dick Briefer. The 8 page comic strip "The Monster Maker" written by James Van Hise and drawn by Tom Sutton. A preview of a formcoming graphic novel featuring a weird 1930s pulp hero, and more. Buyer pays $6.00 shipping priority mail or $2.00 shipping Media Mail. Payment by check, money order, or Paypal (to Jimvanhise@aol.com). -- James Van Hise, 57754 Onaga Trail, Yucca Valley, CA 92284 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Feb 14 11:25:02 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 14 Feb 2003 19:25:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 72984 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 19:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2003 19:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 19:24:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2003 19:24:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:24:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Our New Review Spot! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1196 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires " X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello! Another week comes to a close, and the SPA (Small Press Association) is on the move again. Here's the latest: We've just put online our NEW review system, and all of OU #20's reviews are now online. It's not quite finished yet (We need to get the Buy Now buttons up, hopefully by early next week) but the reviews are there with the full color cover reproductions, and you can go check it out now at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Publisher/newpub.asp It is our hope that this new system will eliminate the wait people have had getting thier reviews online with us. We're very interested in what people will think of the new "2.0" setup we're developing. Keep an eye out soon for announcements concerning the SPA Printing service. We've begun entering into negotiations with a number of printing companies to provide us with a wide spread of available printing sizes and options. If you've had your eye on the SPA prices, we're about to make major reconfigureation of the service. Watch this page for the official word: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing.asp OK! That's it, we'll see you all around the small press friendly world... Ian Shires From nova64@mchsi.com Sat Feb 15 11:40:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1468 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 19:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2003 19:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.88) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 19:40:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.153] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2003 19:40:49 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 15 Feb 2003 17:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 73248 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 17:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2003 17:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 17:50:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2003 17:50:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:50:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thought this might be of interest... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 164 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Doug " X-Originating-IP: 12.217.211.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 15 Feb 2003 19:40:48 -0000 Saw this is available on E-Bay. "The Rocket's Blast--Comic Collector" No. 111: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2158476559&category=3967 Doug From tazwert@yahoo.com Thu Feb 20 07:24:50 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 20 Feb 2003 15:24:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 58310 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 15:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2003 15:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web13801.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.175.11) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 15:24:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20030220152444.90272.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.104.244.37] by web13801.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:24:44 PST Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:24:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: From Superheroes to Subversives To: Sequential Art List - Yahoo , Comic Art List - Yahoo! , Comic Book Fanzines List - Yahoo! , Indie Comics List - Yahoo! , Comic Art FSFT List - Yahoo , Comics Cavalcade List - Yahoo , Comics Spotlight List - Yahoo Cc: Comic Auction Post List - Yahoo! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Ewert X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert I thought the list members might be interested in this tidbit. ========= Minneapolis comic shop featured in local newspaper. Splashed across the front page of the latest edition of Skyway News are the words "Superheroes to Subversives". It is the headline for an article focusing on Minneapolis comic shop Big Brain Comics. If you are interested in reading the article and can't get a copy of the Skyway News, you can read it online at http://www.skywaynews.net/display/inn_news/news01.txt Big Brain Comics is located 81 South 10th Street in Minneapolis, MN. The Skyway News is a free weekly newspaper distributed to 30,000 readers in Downtown Minneapolis. You can find them online at http://www.skywaynews.net/ ===== ************************************************************ Looking for mental simulus? Join Quotes Du Jour! 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Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Feb 21 08:55:15 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 21 Feb 2003 16:55:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 1312 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 16:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2003 16:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 16:55:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2003 16:55:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:55:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Like Web Comics? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2385 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires " X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello out there! Another week coming to a close, and yet again, the SPA is making a move! What could possibly be up our sleves this time? Web Comics. We've been interested in getting together a page that brings together all the web comics of the world, and also in being able to host web comics for those that want some space to display their stuff. SO! When Matt Dembicki came to us and asked if we'd like to host his webcomic, action was taken. I'd been wanting to figure out how to best present such collections of strips, and found a good way. That lead directly to the creation of the new Web Comic page, here's the link: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/WebComics/index.htm Right now, only Matt's webcomic is listed here. But, I suspect that will change once we get this message out. If YOU have a comic that's on the web...zap us over an e-mail to Webcomics@dimestoreproductions.com and we will list your already existing ones with a link to them. If you would like to have us host a webcomic of your creation, visit the webcomic page, and click the info link. We would like to see this page become a central place for fans of webcomics to come to to see what's out there, and where to see it. We're also continuing our membership drive here at the SPA, we're speeding towards 400 members, but we think we can hit 500 by March 1st. Help us out! Forward this message to as many comic book- interested people as you think would be interested in the growing community that is the Small Press Association. Let everyone you can know to come to: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/sitenews.asp and hit the registration button. It's free, it only takes a second, and it will let you participate in the members-only things we're developing. Things like the weekly Free Comic Giveaway in our chat room, whoever shows up gets a free comic from our publisher sponsors. In past weeks we've had Johnny Gonzales, Ryan Dunlavey, Bert Kimura, Jai Sen, and Robert Jones. Next Tuesday, Joanne Mutch is our sponsor, and we're lining up more sponsors for future weeks. It's just one of the great ways we're bringing together the small press/independant community, we hope you'll check it out. OK! I'll let you all go with that. Check out the new Page, and keep an eye on it, as it blooms with links to web comics of all shapes and sizes. Ian Shires From jmain44@aol.com Sun Feb 23 04:37:19 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 23 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 99584 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.172] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2003 12:37:16 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:37:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <113.1c74668d.2b366615@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 912 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main " X-Originating-IP: 64.12.96.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 ---Hi Russ Is the latest issue of your fanzine still available? Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > I donated a piece of original art to the series of auctions hosted by Insight > Studios that are designed to help Patricia Morrow, widow of Gray Morrow, > defray some of the medical bills left over from Gray's long illness. The art > is an authorized Steve Canyon Sunday strip I did for the Air Force Times in > 1997 to commemorate both the 50th anniversary of the Air Force and Steve > Canyon. It is the only authorized Canyon strip done since Milt Caniff died in > 1988. The art is currently up on eBay (Item # 2150690694) and will be up > there for four more days. While I'm no Steve Ditko, the money generated by > the sale of the art goes for a great cause. Check it out! > > Russ Maheras > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Sun Feb 23 08:57:13 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 23 Feb 2003 16:57:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 44469 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 16:57:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2003 16:57:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 16:57:12 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.197.160b7938 (18707) for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:57:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <197.160b7938.2b8a575e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:57:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:38:09 AM Central Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: > Is the latest issue of your fanzine still available? > Sure Jim! Maelstrom #8 is available (to you) for $4 postpaid. The normal price if you mention it to anyone else is $5 postpaid. Take care! Russ Maheras 144 Morgan Place Highwood, IL 60040 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Sun Feb 23 08:58:30 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 23 Feb 2003 16:58:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 60278 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 16:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2003 16:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 16:58:29 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.73.2dcfe9f7 (18707) for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:58:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <73.2dcfe9f7.2b8a57ab@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:58:19 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:38:09 AM Central Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: > Is the latest issue of your fanzine still available? > That offer for Jim goes for the rest of you cbzines folks as well! Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Tue Feb 25 23:45:59 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 26 Feb 2003 07:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 39828 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 07:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2003 07:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 07:45:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.153] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2003 07:45:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:45:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <197.160b7938.2b8a575e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 633 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main " X-Originating-IP: 24.151.8.172 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --Russ- Great-I'll send you my order soon....working on the latest issue of my revived zine HEROIC currently. Do you have time to do am illo? Jim - In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > In a message dated 2/23/2003 6:38:09 AM Central Standard Time, > jmain44@a... writes: > > > Is the latest issue of your fanzine still available? > > > Sure Jim! > Maelstrom #8 is available (to you) for $4 postpaid. The normal price if you > mention it to anyone else is $5 postpaid. Take care! > > Russ Maheras > 144 Morgan Place > Highwood, IL 60040 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Wed Feb 26 07:05:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 26 Feb 2003 15:05:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12351 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 15:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2003 15:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.164) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 15:05:34 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.15e.1be961db (15863) for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m10.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.138]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-0226100512; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:05:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:05:12 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <50F212B2.79BD4BB4.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: >>Great-I'll send you my order soon....working on the latest issue of my revived zine HEROIC currently. Do you have time to do am illo?<< Heck, these days it seems like I never really have time to do anything. But for an old pal, I guess I can make time -- what's your deadline? Russ From jmain44@aol.com Wed Feb 26 07:40:12 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 26 Feb 2003 15:40:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 85754 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 15:40:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:40:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <50F212B2.79BD4BB4.0079F8E7@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 671 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main " X-Originating-IP: 24.151.8.172 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Russ-sent your money out! As for my deadline on HEROIC, it's about two months...the sooner the better though...a Daredevil or Hulk illo would be great...or some PULP character illo...anything from you would be great !!! Jim - In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: > > >>Great-I'll send you my order soon....working on the latest issue of my revived zine HEROIC currently. Do you have time to do am illo?<< > > Heck, these days it seems like I never really have time to do anything. But for an old pal, I guess I can make time -- what's your deadline? > > Russ From jmain44@aol.com Wed Feb 26 07:40:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 26 Feb 2003 15:40:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 11538 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 15:40:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2003 15:40:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:40:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <50F212B2.79BD4BB4.0079F8E7@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 671 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main " X-Originating-IP: 24.151.8.172 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Russ-sent your money out! As for my deadline on HEROIC, it's about two months...the sooner the better though...a Daredevil or Hulk illo would be great...or some PULP character illo...anything from you would be great !!! Jim - In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: > > >>Great-I'll send you my order soon....working on the latest issue of my revived zine HEROIC currently. Do you have time to do am illo?<< > > Heck, these days it seems like I never really have time to do anything. But for an old pal, I guess I can make time -- what's your deadline? > > Russ From rmaheras@aol.com Fri Feb 28 19:40:49 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 1 Mar 2003 03:40:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 10371 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 03:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2003 03:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 03:40:49 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.aa.192f5a82 (4529) for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:40:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:40:40 EST Subject: Biljo White passed away To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to both Mark Evanier and Bill Schelly, Biljo White passed away Wednesday due to complications from cancer. He was 74. Biljo was most famous for his great fan-art strips, his fanzine Batmania, and his character "The Eye." He was one of my all-time favorite fan artists and will be greatly missed. Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Fri Feb 28 20:38:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 1 Mar 2003 04:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3170 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 04:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2003 04:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 04:38:05 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.111.20ca80a7 (17228) for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:37:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <111.20ca80a7.2b919318@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:37:44 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Biljo White passed away To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 234 From: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I felt a horrible thud in my heart as I read this. This man was a true pioneer of fandom, single-handedly creating Komix Illustrated in 62, one of my all-time favorite fanzines. Biljo was also responsible for what I believe is the best all-around fanzine cover ever - Alter Ego #7. Does anyone have an address we can send our condolences to? -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 2/28/03 10:42:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: > According to both Mark Evanier and Bill Schelly, Biljo White passed away > Wednesday due to complications from cancer. He was 74. Biljo was most > famous > for his great fan-art strips, his fanzine Batmania, and his character "The > Eye." He was one of my all-time favorite fan artists and will be greatly > missed. > > Russ Maheras > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Fri Feb 28 21:59:44 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 1 Mar 2003 05:59:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 86148 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 05:59:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2003 05:59:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 05:59:42 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.1a9.115b9210 (4380) for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:59:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1a9.115b9210.2b91a64b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:59:39 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Biljo White passed away To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Below is the text of Biljo White's obituary, written by fan historian Bill Schelly. Reprinted with permission. Russ Maheras PUBLISHER & ARTIST BILJO WHITE DIES AT 73 By Bill Schelly Biljo White died Wednesday, February 26th, in Columbia, Missouri. Best known as the publisher of the popular fanzine Batmania, and co-creator of the super hero The Eye, Biljo had been one of the most active fans in the early 1960s when fandom was getting started. Born William Joseph White on June 4th, 1929, Biljo had been able to buy the comics of the Golden Age right off the rack, and eventually housed his enormous collection in the grandly-named White House of Comics, which was really just a cinder block building in his back yard. A talented cartoonist who had harbored dreams of drawing for professional comics some day, White created many heroes in the pages of his first fanzine Komix Illustrated (1962-1963). His best known characters were The Eye (co-created with Grass Green) and The Fog, who appeared in several different fanzines in the middle 1960s. Biljo was Art Editor of the fanzine Alter Ego for a time, published a magazine for fans of comic strips called The Stripper, and even took on the publishing of The Comicollector before it merged with Rocket's Blast to form RB-CC.. But it was as editor and publisher of Batmania, "the magazine just for Batman fans," that White was best known. Batmania, published with the approval of DC Comics, came on the scene in mid-1964, and reached its peak during the advent of the Batman TV show. White found he had a tiger by the tail, because of the large demand for copies. He was written up in articles as far as away as Italy for his part in the "batmania" craze. Burned out by this frenzy of publishing, White largely withdrew from fandom in the 1970s, and sold most of his legendary collection of old comic books over the ensuing years. Still, nothing could keep Biljo from the drawing board. His last published drawing saw print in The Eye Collection (Hamster Press), which collected new adventures of The Eye, Underworld Executioner, bringing Biljo a new generation of fans. Bill J. White died of Burkett's Lymphoma, which came on so suddenly that he never experienced any pain, merely a loss of appetite. Reacting poorly to chemotherapy, he died within eight days of being diagnosed. He had retired just three weeks ago from his job at the local Veterans Hospital. White had requested no funeral, and that his body be cremated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mgilbert@efn.org Sat Mar 01 06:50:07 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 1 Mar 2003 14:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 96696 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 14:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2003 14:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clavin.efn.org) (66.178.136.10) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 14:50:06 -0000 Received: from efn.org (dialup-ras7-83.eug.or.uspops.net [216.239.187.83]) by clavin.efn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Eo4T20407 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 06:50:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 06:47:30 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1046526330.253.22170.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) From: Michael Gilbert X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Russ: That is really, really sad news. Very few of First Fandom remain, and I value them all. Biljo White had a delightful golden age-influenced art and writing style. He was really one of my favorite fan artists, and I'll miss his work. Best wishes, Michael T. On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 05:45 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:40:40 EST > From: rmaheras@aol.com > Subject: Biljo White passed away > > According to both Mark Evanier and Bill Schelly, Biljo White passed > away > Wednesday due to complications from cancer. He was 74. Biljo was most > famous > for his great fan-art strips, his fanzine Batmania, and his character > "The > Eye." He was one of my all-time favorite fan artists and will be > greatly > missed. > > Russ Maheras > From inspireduk@yahoo.com Thu Mar 06 06:06:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 50908 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 14:06:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: inspireduk@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2003 14:06:49 -0000 X-Sender: inspireduk@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 13:55:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 90037 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 13:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 13:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 13:55:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2003 13:55:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:55:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Yancy Street Journal Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 573 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "inspireduk" X-Originating-IP: 217.36.91.86 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=56711406 X-Yahoo-Profile: inspireduk X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Mar 2003 14:06:46 -0000 I was sorting out some old magazines at the weekend and I=20 found a copy of a publication called Yancy Street Journal (Vol=20 1 No 1) dated October 1976. The imprint inside says 'The Yancy Street Journal is an amateur=20 non-profit making magazine published bi-monthly by H.=20 Stangroom & Associates, 91 Victoria Road, Darlington Co.=20 Durham', which leads me to believe its not THE Yancy Street=20 Journal I've posted a scan of the cover (YANCY.jpg) in the files section=20 =96 does anyone know anything about it? How many issues did it run for?=20 Is it worth keeping? Thanks GH From KINGGEO3@aol.com Thu Mar 06 06:26:18 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 14:26:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18186 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 14:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 14:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 14:26:15 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.180.176c5941 (3972) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <180.176c5941.2b98b47a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:26:02 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All fanzines are worth keeping, IMHO! :) They are all part of our history and everyone of them was made by someone with a true love for the genre and a wish to be creative. I could never destroy or throw something away like that! But if you ahve any fanzines you wish to get rid of, please send me a e-mail first! I will at least pay shipping for as many fanzines as I can! I love those little things! :) George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From inspireduk@yahoo.com Thu Mar 06 07:33:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21476 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 15:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 15:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 15:33:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: inspireduk@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.129] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2003 15:33:30 -0000 X-Sender: inspireduk@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 15:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11390 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 15:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 15:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 15:24:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2003 15:24:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:24:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <180.176c5941.2b98b47a@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 630 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "inspireduk" X-Originating-IP: 217.36.91.86 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=56711406 X-Yahoo-Profile: inspireduk X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Mar 2003 15:33:29 -0000 Don't worry, I never throw anything away. I'd just like to know more about it before I find it a good home... GH --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > All fanzines are worth keeping, IMHO! :) They are all part of our history > and everyone of them was made by someone with a true love for the genre and a > wish to be creative. I could never destroy or throw something away like > that! But if you ahve any fanzines you wish to get rid of, please send me a > e-mail first! I will at least pay shipping for as many fanzines as I can! I > love those little things! :) > > George Lane From srowecanoe@aol.com Thu Mar 06 10:37:29 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 18:37:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 60607 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 18:37:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 18:37:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m04.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.7) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:37:28 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.14d.1ca59ef7 (4459) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14d.1ca59ef7.2b98ef62@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:37:22 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] and to think I saw it on Yancy Street To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/6/2003 10:04:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > was sorting out some old magazines at the weekend and I > found a copy of a publication called Yancy Street Journal (Vol > 1 No 1) dated October 1976. > > The imprint inside says 'The Yancy Street Journal is an amateur > non-profit making magazine published bi-monthly by H. > Stangroom &Associates, 91 Victoria Road, Darlington Co. > Durham', which leads me to believe its not THE Yancy Street > Journal > right, that would be Howard Stangroom, right? and you are thinking of the more famous Yancy Street Gazette? as for how many of either came out, the only fanzine index i know was by the McGeehans about 1974 or so --- and my copy is "who knows where" steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Thu Mar 06 11:29:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 6 Mar 2003 19:29:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10999 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 19:29:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2003 19:29:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 19:29:52 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.1e5.3c3e9e1 (3310) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1e5.3c3e9e1.2b98fba5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:29:41 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in the same boat as you. I have no idea where this newer version of The Yancey Streeet Journal came from? Like you, I only knew of the earlier version. You may have a super rarity there. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jgbook2002@yahoo.com Fri Mar 07 10:29:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49734 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 18:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2003 18:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 18:29:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jgbook2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.251] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2003 18:29:49 -0000 X-Sender: jgbook2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 7 Mar 2003 18:27:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 67262 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 18:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2003 18:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 18:27:38 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2003 18:27:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:27:36 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: mod. " AE " and Me ! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1048 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jgbook2002" X-Originating-IP: 207.215.30.106 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=134756530 X-Yahoo-Profile: jgbook2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 07 Mar 2003 18:29:49 -0000 Hey , (1) Does anybody here read the current-day " ALTER EGO " , now a pro-level mag , edited by Roy T. , published by TooMorrows ? It's now monthly , I've been getting it regular-like . This is especially relevant , actually , because the issues I've seen have had some stuff relating to fans and fandom culture ( Oooh , I know that sounds pretentious ! ) , not just old pros' memoreies/etc. ! Recently , there was a recap of the furst " full-service " NY Comicon , with the same issue having an interview w/ - his name escapes me now - a prominent early fan , later a marginal pro , who had some comment on how , as he saw it , fandom changed as the 60s went on . (2) I'm too young to've been in the " golden days " 1960s fandom , period , I was a fan - marginally - in the 70s - I'm feeling embarassed , I never got a fanzine out , or anything . I might , here and at the " other " old fandom-related groups , inquire 4 peoples' opinions as to how people felt , etc. , " back in the day "/" back in those halycon daazze..." From srowecanoe@aol.com Fri Mar 07 10:31:04 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRoweCanoe@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 7 Mar 2003 18:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 95043 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 18:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2003 18:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 18:31:04 -0000 Received: from SRoweCanoe@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.4e.18df1b88 (4592) for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:30:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4e.18df1b88.2b9a3f63@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:30:59 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] and to think i saw it on Yancey Street To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 230 From: srowecanoe@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=529200 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevenrowe29550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/7/2003 8:38:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > I'm in the same boat as you. I have no idea where this newer version of The > > Yancey Streeet Journal came from? Like you, I only knew of the earlier > version. You may have a super rarity there. > the publisher was a rather well known British fan at the time I have a couple of fanzines that he did steven rowe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Sat Mar 08 08:52:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 8 Mar 2003 16:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 30394 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 16:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Mar 2003 16:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 16:52:14 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.b7.2f63e5f5 (17377) for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:51:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:51:59 EST Subject: Re: " AE " and Me ! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45 From: CArchivist@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407 X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist In a message dated 03/08/2003 10:29:21 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: << Hey , (1) Does anybody here read the current-day " ALTER EGO " , now a pro-level mag , edited by Roy T. , published by TooMorrows ? It's now monthly , I've been getting it regular-like . >> Yes, I do. I enjoy Roy's work on it very much and generally been entertained by the issues. << (2) I'm too young to've been in the " golden days " 1960s fandom , period , I was a fan - marginally - in the 70s - I'm feeling embarassed , I never got a fanzine out , or anything . I might , here and at the " other " old fandom-related groups , inquire 4 peoples' opinions as to how people felt , etc. , " back in the day "/" back in those halycon daazze..." >> Yes, I wouldn't mind hearing it too. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr From mossjolly@yahoo.com Mon Mar 10 06:28:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 10 Mar 2003 14:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21422 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 14:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2003 14:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 14:28:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2003 14:28:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:28:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: mod. " AE " and Me ! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1565 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 64.159.110.9 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Haven't read the new ALTER EGO, but I was delighted to find a booth where a guy was selling boxes of old '60s fanzines, at MegaCon in Orlando here. And he had many original issues of ALTER EGO, plus old RBCCs, and a lot more. The prices were pretty high though... like $12 and $15 per issue! Still, I couldn't help but be tempted.... --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "jgbook2002" wrote: > Hey , (1) Does anybody here read the current-day " ALTER EGO " > , now a pro-level mag , edited by Roy T. , published by > TooMorrows ? It's now monthly , I've been getting it regular-like . > This is especially relevant , actually , because the issues I've > seen have had some stuff relating to fans and fandom culture ( > Oooh , I know that sounds pretentious ! ) , not just old pros' > memoreies/etc. ! Recently , there was a recap of the furst " > full-service " NY Comicon , with the same issue having an > interview w/ - his name escapes me now - a prominent early fan > , later a marginal pro , who had some comment on how , as he > saw it , fandom changed as the 60s went on . > (2) I'm too young to've been in the " golden days " 1960s > fandom , period , I was a fan - marginally - in the 70s - I'm feeling > embarassed , I never got a fanzine out , or anything . I might , > here and at the " other " old fandom-related groups , inquire 4 > peoples' opinions as to how people felt , etc. , " back in the day "/" > back in those halycon daazze..." From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Mar 10 11:20:17 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 10 Mar 2003 19:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10213 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 19:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2003 19:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 19:20:15 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.6e.2b7b8858 (30950) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:20:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6e.2b7b8858.2b9e3f63@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:20:03 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: mod. " AE " and Me ! To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice find, Steve! I was in Cleveland at a convention during the late '80s when I found a dealer who had a stack of old fanzines. Many of them were the first ten issues of Star Studded Comics! Most of the fanzines werer so old that they were on mimeograph paper! He wanted about $200. for all of them! Back then, I just couldn't cover that. I could kick myself now! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Tue Mar 11 21:53:01 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 12 Mar 2003 05:53:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 49418 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 05:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2003 05:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 05:53:01 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2003 05:53:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:52:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1661 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 --- Russ-I received your new issue of MAELSTROM and was blown away by this book! What a great bit of reference done here on that TBG article! And those cover repros were a nice touch(I actually saved many of the ones I really liked and stored them away)The Ditko piece was a nice touch, but my favorite article was the bit on the paperbacks, as I'm a collector of them and have been for some time. You picked some rarities here for your cover repros. I like to attend the shows in the NY area to fill in my gaps. I'm still collecting pulp reprint paperbacks, from The Shadow, the Avenger, Doc Savage, G-8 and Phantom Detective. But I just wanted to tell you that issue #8 is one of the best fanzines I've EVER read! Truly worth the price of admission. Jim Main P.S.-If you can still do that illo for me, maybe one of The Eye would be great! In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Main " wrote: > Russ-sent your money out! As for my deadline on HEROIC, it's about two months...the sooner the better though...a Daredevil or Hulk illo would be great...or some PULP character illo...anything from you would be great !!! > > Jim > > > > - In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:45:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: > > > > >>Great-I'll send you my order soon....working on the latest issue of my revived zine HEROIC currently. Do you have time to do am illo?<< > > > > Heck, these days it seems like I never really have time to do anything. But for an old pal, I guess I can make time -- what's your deadline? > > > > Russ From jmain44@aol.com Tue Mar 11 22:02:19 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 12 Mar 2003 06:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 79940 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 06:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2003 06:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 06:02:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2003 06:02:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:02:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: HEROIC #5 looking for material Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 288 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.209.112 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Heroic is looking for articles and art for it's fifth issue. I have some material in now, but could always use more. Pieces on superheroes/villains/heroines in the comics/tv/films/pulps/cartoons/ strips/fanzines/small press comics are welcome. Let me know if you're interested! Jim From rmaheras@aol.com Wed Mar 12 06:49:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 12 Mar 2003 14:49:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 46648 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2003 14:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2003 14:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 14:49:08 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.14b.1cef5ca1 (15874) for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m06.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.134]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINID71-0312094905; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:49:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:49:05 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Steve Canyon art (OT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0501C854.1E6BA0E5.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated 3/12/2003 12:52:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44 writes: >>Russ-I received your new issue of MAELSTROM and was blown away by this book! What a great bit of reference done here on that TBG article! ............ But I just wanted to tell you that issue #8 is one of the best fanzines I've EVER read!<<< Thanks, Jim! I appreciate your kind words -- especially from someone with your long-time fan publishing background! Russ Maheras From jwc33406@hotmail.com Sat Mar 15 08:59:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jwc33406@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 15 Mar 2003 16:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 47458 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 16:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2003 16:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 16:59:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.189] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2003 16:59:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:59:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Don Maris Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 157 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim" X-Originating-IP: 209.86.179.81 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72466883 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam Does anyone here know how to contact Don Maris? I want to ask him about some publications he did with Larry Hearndon. thanks in advance for any help, Jim From fugtussey1@aol.com Sat Mar 15 09:16:00 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 15 Mar 2003 17:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1135 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2003 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.1ed.45d0562 (30970) for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:15:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1ed.45d0562.2ba4b9c6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:15:50 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Don Maris To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6014 From: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, He still does shows in TX. Try 214-339-2935. Aaron In a message dated 3/15/03 12:00:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, jwc33406@hotmail.com writes: > Does anyone here know how to contact Don Maris? I want to ask him about > some publications he did with Larry Hearndon. > > thanks in advance for any help, > Jim > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From detroitmik@aol.com Sat Mar 15 16:21:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1480 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 00:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2003 00:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 00:21:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Detroitmik@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.186] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2003 00:21:06 -0000 X-Sender: Detroitmik@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 15 Mar 2003 18:45:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 30969 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2003 18:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2003 18:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2003 18:45:32 -0000 Received: from Detroitmik@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.9.ca80a98 (3310) for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:45:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9.ca80a98.2ba4cec8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:45:28 EST Subject: Re: [cbzines] Don Maris To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10641 From: detroitmik@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59123785 X-Yahoo-Profile: detroitmike1967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 16 Mar 2003 00:21:03 -0000 Don Maris deals on eBay too. His user Id is BIGDPLUS. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jwc33406@hotmail.com Sun Mar 16 12:05:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jwc33406@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 16 Mar 2003 20:05:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 31948 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 20:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2003 20:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 20:05:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.141] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2003 20:05:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:05:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Don Maris Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9.ca80a98.2ba4cec8@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 254 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim" X-Originating-IP: 209.215.55.136 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72466883 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam thanks for the leads from both of you...I really appreciate it. ~Jim --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, detroitmik@a... wrote: > Don Maris deals on eBay too. His user Id is BIGDPLUS. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Tue Mar 18 18:44:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24560 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2003 02:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2003 02:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2003 02:44:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: joegouldiii@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2003 02:44:09 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 18 Mar 2003 19:53:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 61832 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2003 19:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2003 19:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2003 19:53:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.152] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2003 19:53:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:53:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: " RAPPORT " . Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 468 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "joegouldiii" X-Originating-IP: 207.215.30.106 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524 X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 19 Mar 2003 02:44:08 -0000 I see the mention of a 'zine called RAPPORT , new to me . Was that a jokey reference to the bit in Feiffer's " Great Comic Book Heroes " that " real rapport was for villians . That's why they got hit so much . " That's always stayed with me . The historical impact/import of Feiffer's book deserves discussion , says I ! Apparently , Fantagraphic's done a reissue of just the text part , sans the comics ? Any new panel repros , anyway/new text ????????? From customego@yahoo.com Wed Mar 19 20:38:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: customego@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 20 Mar 2003 04:38:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 59429 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 04:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2003 04:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 04:38:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.144] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2003 04:38:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 04:38:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: I need your help!! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 271 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Darrin Wiltshire" X-Originating-IP: 66.185.85.69 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21727027 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi Fans, I'm looking for info (ama-heroes actually) that appeared in the following zines: Action Hero Bombshell Fantasy Hero Komix Illustrated Mask & Cape Super-Hero There are others, but those above are a main interest. Contact me if you can help. Thanks, Darrin From rmaheras@aol.com Thu Mar 20 06:33:50 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 20 Mar 2003 14:33:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 61240 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 14:33:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2003 14:33:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 14:33:48 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id r.3f.19f173dd (15886) for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m24.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID81-3e0e3e79d14a8; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:33:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:33:46 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] I need your help!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <29ECFDAF.52EEA76D.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: rmaheras@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated 3/19/2003 11:38:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, customego@yahoo.com writes: >>I'm looking for info (ama-heroes actually) that appeared in the following zines: Action Hero, Bombshell, Fantasy Hero, Komix Illustrated, Mask & Cape, Super-Hero<< I have copies of most of these 'zines, and I will try to look up the ama-heroes when I can. Russ Maheras From jmain44@aol.com Thu Apr 10 04:42:29 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 10 Apr 2003 11:42:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 97422 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2003 11:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2003 11:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2003 11:42:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2003 11:42:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:42:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: THE EYE Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 177 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 24.151.8.172 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 I'm looking for someone who might be interested in doing a character profile on Biljo's EYE, for my zine Heroic. Any takers, contact me at jmain44@aol.com. Thanks- Jim Main From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Apr 14 07:47:43 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 14 Apr 2003 14:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19133 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2003 14:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2003 14:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2003 14:45:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2003 14:44:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:44:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Free Small Press Day! An Orca/SPA project... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1963 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "aipman1" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Good day all, and hope you are are well. Once again, the SPA is on the move with some exciting projects, here we go! Rick Olney and I have begun discussing the development of a sponsored giveaway event that is everything that the comics-industry- hyped "free comic book day" is not. Not that that event is not a good thing, it is and we aren't putting it down. We just think more can be done with the idea. Our intention is to create a sampler publication with information about the small press network and materials that will encourage people to seek out the roads less traveled that we all walk. As we look to what is being done already, it is easy for us to see the opportunities missed by the mainstream thinking. Our general consensus is that the introducing of people to the joy of reading can and should be happening at a scholastic level, with libraries and other such avenues that have the potential to reach people that haven't been reached before, to expand the market with outward thinking. We have decided that this particular topic will be a major focus of the first ever public meeting of the SPA, at the Upcoming Mighty Mini Con, in NY (www.mightyminicon.com) We are hereby inviting anyone that can make it to this upstate NY show to come help shape the ideas that forge this project. This thread: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp? TOPIC_ID=964 is intended for the discussion and development of this project, to focus in on the hows and whys of bringing this from idea to actual event sometime in 2004. You are welcome to bring forth your ideas, and state your intention to participate. We will keep a running outline of who will do what within the project, as we identify and fill positions/ participants. Thank you for taking the time to read about this. We hope to make some progress in raising the bar on what small press can be, and we hope you will help spread the word about it. Ian Shires From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 16 13:53:18 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 16 Apr 2003 20:53:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13785 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 20:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2003 20:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 20:53:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.141] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2003 20:53:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:53:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Houston Texas Fan Meeting Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1012 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "smithworldorder" X-Originating-IP: 12.82.3.80 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738 X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Please excuse my delurking to contact my fellow Houston Texas area fans. This coming Saturday, April 19th, from 1-4 in the afternoon I am hosting the inaugural meeting of the resurrected Houston Comic Collectors Association, a club for collectors of Silver and Golden Age comics & vintage pre-1970 material in related fields - original art, old radio & tv, movie paper, serials, newspaper comic strips, etc. It's at the Hilton Houston Southwest at 6780 Southwest Fwy. I'm bringing both comics, 60s fanzines & a selection of original art. First created in 1966, the HCCA has been dormant for about 25 years; but given the dearth of places in the greater Houston area to see or buy classic material (with the exception of Bedrock City Comics), now seems the time for a club catering to those of us that fancy our entertainment old & in four-color. If you agree & live anywhere near Houston Texas, contact me directly for all the particulars. Thanks for the indulgence of the list. Anthony Smith From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Apr 23 06:59:57 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 23 Apr 2003 13:59:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 44628 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2003 13:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2003 13:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 13:59:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2003 13:59:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:59:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Support the Small Press/ Independant network! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2710 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "aipman1" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Focus is an important part of the growth of any community, and for years, the Small Press/ Independent network has lacked Focus. As newsletters rose and fell during the 90's so did new pockets of the network evolve and move off on their own. Computers have brought even more avenues for creative people to express themselves, and more ways for people to find support networks for creators. There are lots of them out there now, and it's great to have options for creators to find themselves. But here's what's been missing: Focus. As each person tries to expand their readership, there are very few places a person can go to find the Big Picture. A place where everyone can look to find the new, and be seen. Well I'm not going to say that the work we're doing with the Small Press Association and in the Obscurity Unlimited magazine has reached that level yet. But what I would like to say is that we are trying. And we know there are lots of people who like and enjoy the efforts, and we know there are people who have their reservations about it. Obscurity Unlimited #22 is now out and heading out to subscribers. Here's a preview of it's awesome cover by Robert Sumner: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/images/DSP-OU22.jpg Why does that matter? Well, it's the only monthly small press review print magazine there is. And it needs your support. Whether you agree with everything the SPA stands for and does, you should be reading this magazine because it offers the widest view of small press every month available to the public. And with your support and help, it could become the focus the small press/ independent arena has lacked. So, in the interest of jump-starting people's reading of OU, we're going to make an offer...and here it is... Go to this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.a sp and order a sample copy. Anyone who orders a sample copy from now through the end of April will get TWO issues, for the price of one. Also, anyone who orders a Six Month subscription will also get a free 6-block full color advertisement to use any way they please. We're hoping that this offer will bring more people into giving OU a good looking over, and that in that end, the small press/ independent arena will grow closer and we can do more about getting more readers for all of our publications. We are all just individuals, making our way in a medium that we love. We can break the mold, and use cards that weren't dealt to us, to make a better network for us all. So this post might seem like an advertisement...but in reality it is much more. It's a ray of hope that I hope people can feel the warmth in. Ian Shires From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon May 05 09:22:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 5 May 2003 16:22:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 47290 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 15:49:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2003 15:49:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2003 15:49:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.248] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2003 15:49:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:49:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Dial-up Friendly SPA access! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1057 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "aipman1" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello all, Ian here from the Small Press Association. For a while now, the SPA Forum has been a bit of a drag unless you had a broadband connection to the internet. It's been a bit of a sticky point, something we've wished there was a solution for. We wanted to offer all the great features of the broadband-friendly forum system, but were sad we felt like we were leaving out a significant group of people by doing so. Well: We have found the solution! We're now running 2 forum systems on the same database, which will let dial-up users have access to all the publicity, jobs, and projects that the SPA is known for. So we're going on a membership drive...whether you are a broadband or a dial-up user, now is a great time to join the 400+ members of the Small Press Association in changing how the world sees small press. here's the URL to make your choice of how you see the SPA: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/forum.asp Thanks everyone, for keeping the most active small press group around, growing and improving! Ian Shires. From culmbank@yahoo.com Wed May 07 18:42:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15583 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 01:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2003 01:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 01:42:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: culmbank@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2003 01:42:29 -0000 X-Sender: culmbank@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 8 May 2003 00:58:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 68573 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 00:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2003 00:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 00:58:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2003 00:58:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 00:58:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: mort lawrence Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 105 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "culmbank" X-Originating-IP: 209.92.48.106 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=126758590 X-Yahoo-Profile: culmbank X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 08 May 2003 01:42:27 -0000 does anyone remember reading any bios on mort lawrence? if so please post where the bio was published. From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Thu May 08 01:30:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 8 May 2003 08:30:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28536 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 08:30:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2003 08:30:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 08:30:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.149] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2003 08:30:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:30:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Original Art to GUTS #5 by Tim Kirk Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 306 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "ninthnebula10" X-Originating-IP: 12.235.167.68 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12569485 X-Yahoo-Profile: NinthNebula10 Tim Kirk Art: I have it on ebay now (one painting from the centerfold -- subtle and early by one of Fandom's finest. My new name there is mind-candy. Anyone see the X-men film? I thought it was good. Visit my web page http://graphic-illusion.com So what is the best comic con for buying fanzines? From DocV@Prodigy.net Fri May 09 17:44:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: DocV@prodigy.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 10 May 2003 00:44:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 40787 invoked from network); 10 May 2003 00:44:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2003 00:44:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimout4-ext.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.103) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2003 00:44:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dialup-67.31.66.119.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net [67.31.66.119]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with SMTP id h4A0igl9020148 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 20:44:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200305100044.h4A0igl9020148@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net> To: comicbookfanzines-L Subject: Re: [cbzines] mort lawrence Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 20:44:41 -0500 X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v3.1a From: "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238939 X-Yahoo-Profile: uncannytales -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- t.d wrote: > does anyone remember reading any bios on mort lawrence? if so please post > where the bio was published. A sort of relative of Mort Lawrence is on the Timely-Atlas list. He's married to Mort's granddaughter, I believe. I don't remember which lister it is now. Doc V. From mail@aspublications.com Tue May 13 15:34:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@aspublications.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 13 May 2003 22:34:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 55171 invoked from network); 13 May 2003 22:34:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2003 22:34:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2003 22:34:33 -0000 Received: from user-uive8d0.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.33.160] helo=pavilion.aspublications.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19FiLv-0003xS-00; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:34:32 -0700 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20030513182842.00a7c830@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:36:34 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Just A Few Words Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Aaron Deutsch X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=60028345 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Years ago for my fanzine Open Minded Comics I had a column "Just A Few Words by Mr.A.". Now online is http://www.jafw.us Just A Few Words by Mr. A. (Aaron Deutsch). Anyone who wants to post a article in the general or collectibles can visit the site and email us your article... (No Attachments!!!). If it needs a graphic just point me to the picture. Aaron Mr.A. (since 1965) http://www.aspublications.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From larid@dccnet.com Tue May 13 19:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22426 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 02:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2003 02:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2003 02:00:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: larid@dccnet.com Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2003 02:00:33 -0000 X-Sender: larid@dccnet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 13 May 2003 19:25:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15960 invoked from network); 13 May 2003 19:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2003 19:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yoda.dccnet.com) (24.207.1.130) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2003 19:25:19 -0000 Received: from duolnar (unverified [24.207.11.55]) by dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.2.5) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 12:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <003301c31985$e2c175a0$370bcf18@duolnar> To: "fanzine list" Subject: Lulu Review Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:28:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "lari davidson" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=121792500 X-Yahoo-Profile: rustylawrence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 14 May 2003 02:00:32 -0000 i have just posted a review of Clifford Meth's new book, "Wearing the Horns", up on my Lulu Review site. the book has illos by Dave Cockrum and a cover by Frank Brunner. there are also a lot of old fanzine covers, etc. on the site itself and many more to come.... for the WTH review click the book cover top left or the 'monthly review' halfway down on the right. hope you like the site and the review.... http://www.lulureview.0catch.com/ or straight to the review at - http://www.lulureview.0catch.com/WYHreview%20page.html thanks, lari [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From culmbank@yahoo.com Sat May 17 16:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51668 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 23:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 May 2003 23:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2003 23:00:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: culmbank@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2003 23:00:08 -0000 X-Sender: culmbank@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 17 May 2003 22:58:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 47804 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 22:58:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 May 2003 22:58:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2003 22:58:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2003 22:58:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 22:58:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] mort lawrence Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200305100044.h4A0igl9020148@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 527 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "culmbank" X-Originating-IP: 209.92.48.106 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=126758590 X-Yahoo-Profile: culmbank X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 17 May 2003 23:00:07 -0000 thanQ dr. v i'll see what they have to say over there. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Michael J. Vassallo" wrote: > -- [ From: Dr. Michael J. Vassallo * EMC.Ver #3.1a PRODIGY ] -- > > t.d wrote: > > > does anyone remember reading any bios on mort lawrence? if so please > post > > where the bio was published. > > A sort of relative of Mort Lawrence is on the Timely-Atlas list. He's > married to Mort's granddaughter, I believe. I don't remember which lister > it is now. > > Doc V. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu May 22 08:14:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 22 May 2003 15:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24264 invoked from network); 22 May 2003 15:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2003 15:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2003 15:13:57 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.140] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2003 15:13:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:13:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OU #22 reviews online! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1262 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello all, Ian here from the Small Press Association. Hope you are all well and having a good time. Just a quick announcement I hope everyone will find interesting and usefull... The May Reviews from Obscurity Unlimited #22 are all loaded and posted at the website now! That means that you can read all the reviews from this month's issue of OU and if you want to have a copy of something you see, you can order it right from the website! PLUS: We've got a bit of a surprise for you also...we've added a system in the reviews where YOU can now ADD YOUR OWN VOICE to the reviews. There is a link in each review for posting your own comments about the Comics, Zines, and Music that are reviewed, and for reading the additional comments of others. It is our hope that this new feature will help create buzz for small press/ Independant releases worth seeking out. Here's the URL link to the review section: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Publisher/Newpub.asp We will continue to refine and enhance the reviews you find at our site, to help improve how people find and buy small press/ Independent comics and publications of all sorts. Let us know how we're doing and any other comments you may have about the OU system! Ian Shires From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Thu May 22 09:39:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 22 May 2003 16:39:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 41377 invoked from network); 22 May 2003 16:39:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2003 16:39:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.teknetwork.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2003 16:39:26 -0000 Received: from [172.21.21.189] (wsip-68-96-24-107.om.om.cox.net [68.96.24.107]) by www.teknetwork.com (8.12.4/8.11.6) with SMTP id h4MGdK4M031272 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:39:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1053620929.159.63447.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1053620929.159.63447.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:39:12 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=F6pffer?= in 1842 America has arrived From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: T=F6pffer in 1842 America has arrived Cc: "GCD Chat List" To: comix-scholars@clas.ufl.edu From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Re: [comixschl] T=F6pffer in 1842 America Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 To: PlatinumAgeComics@yahoogroups.com Hello Today, Fellow Plat-Listers no rain, no tornados - perfect day for a small mound of boxes to show up from Italy, a=20 pleasant surprise i thought would take another month at least.This is=20 the same reprint package discussed a couple months back which some of=20 you may be aware of. 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If these rush away as=20 anticipated, another re-order will be made, but there will be no=20 guarantees we can get more. This is an item when, once gone, will become hard to find since most=20 will end up with serious researchers. I anticipate by the end of San=20 Diego Comicon, they will all be gone. I would not procrastinate.=20 Every serious library needs this one, folks. I almost forgot to add in that i now take PayPal simply go to send money and paste in my email address: beerbohm@teknetwork.com and i send out a copy the very next morning pavlovian instant gratification -:) works by including your snail address when you do the PayPal thing. besto bob, sending a small fortune to Naples to pay for all this - -:) -- Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 NEW COMICS CATALOG UPDATE v37 #1 - Spring 2003- Coming Shortly end of May! Simply ask for your free 48 page copy with your snail mail address. Check out the new Overstreet #33 for my in-depth history of comics work dating to back to 1795 co-written with Doug Wheeler and Richard Olson **************FOR SALE AND TRADE****************** **Lots of Vintage Comic Books, Pulps, BLBs etc**** **North America people ask me for your Free Copy** ************************************************** Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ************************************************** Moderator: Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group (Co-Moderators: Doug Wheeler & Leonardo De S=E1) Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips at: http://www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/PlatPics Most all roads seem to lead back to Rudolphe T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.=20 - From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense --Mark Twain --=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From colossalarts@yahoo.com Sat May 24 12:58:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57762 invoked from network); 24 May 2003 19:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 May 2003 19:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2003 19:58:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: colossalarts@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.250] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2003 19:58:00 -0000 X-Sender: colossalarts@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14115 invoked from network); 23 May 2003 16:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 May 2003 16:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2003 16:21:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.113] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 May 2003 16:21:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 16:21:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: He-Man art contest and X2 Custom Figure contest Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1268 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "colossalarts" X-Originating-IP: 24.239.179.117 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=148454682 X-Yahoo-Profile: colossalarts X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 May 2003 19:58:00 -0000 My name is Keith Smith, I run a web magazine called www.ontheshelves.com. We are a toy/comic and movie website and we're having a couple of contests. First, there is a week or so left in our He-Man gratest battles art contest. Draw your fave He-man Battle, including whoever you like and just send us the scan. The prizes are : Original Art from HE-MAN artist Emiliano Santalucia, a signed set of the first mini-series and a signed copy of the #1 issue from the current mini. Join in and win. We will work to accomodate slightly late entries as a courtesy to everyone involved. Next, Win an awesome Limited edition Artist proof Cyclops Maquette by creating your own X-action figure based on the movie. Hard hero, the makers of really fine busts and Maquettes, have generously donated this maquette for this contest and it would be neat for everyone to get involved. Go to www.ontheshelves.com and check it out. Read the rules and submit. Our last contest got a great response from fans and we're hoping for a bigger turnout this time around. Thanks for your time, hope to see you at the site and the forums, where we give away free action figures every month, just for posting to the forums. Keith Smith Editorial Director www.ontheshelves.com From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed Jun 04 16:14:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54604 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 23:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2003 23:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 23:14:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tim_tt2@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.173] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2003 23:14:25 -0000 X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 78168 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 21:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2003 21:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 21:06:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2003 21:06:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 21:06:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Newbie Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3098 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 208.243.109.20 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 04 Jun 2003 23:14:24 -0000 I'm a newbie here, but put out comic zines that benefit the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. Of course, I'm looking for more readers, but always looking for writers and artists to donate their time and help. A lot of the books are supehero fare, but the line is really not genre specific. I joined the group to see what other folks are doing and have fun,and escape another so-called "fanzine group" on Yahoo where the subject is anything but fanzines... but please allow me to hawk my wares lol The books are in black and white with color covers. Each book is a ONE dollar + postage, with the exception of "TBT's Realm of Fantasy" which is $2.00 for 44 pgs...PLUS color covers...art by Nick "Nasty" Alenikov, Jr. and comicgrrl, among others. "Capt. Fantastic" #1, #2(Art by Vernon Smith, cover by Lorenzo Lizana) Hero Bijou #1 (Art by Guy Burwell, Jim Thompson, 3 stories in all) #2 (Re-presents Jerry Foley's Nightshadow #1 w. "restored" art, and a cover by pro Mike Grell) "CF Comics Presents" #1 (features characters created by a CF patient and cover by pro artist Cal Slayton, as well as "Kirby-style" and some manga art) #2 ("Heart Attack" by Sugiarto Aliputra, a cool manga story about a playboy taking a protege under his wing...it's very Archie-esque")#3 has an original, though provoking, story by Jeff Rothe with some of his illos too. "Glock": #1 a zombie anti-hero who is best described as Hulk meets Frankenstein, with blue hair and green skin. Created to be the first in an army of super beings for a self styled Beast of the Apocalypse, Glock winds up being a one eyed simpleton with superhuman strength and a penchant for non-sensical song lyrics.Zany!Great front and back covers by Mikel Whelan too! "5 Protectors" is an updating of my 80's super-team series #1 has a cover by Burwell...#2 has interior art by Burwell with a cover by Sean Petitt...the brand new #3 will have art by Nick Alenikov, Jr. with another cover as well as a centerfold by Mr. Pettit. Coming soon: superheroine Ultra-Violet in a book written and drawn by Climax Studios of France, and "SuperTeam CF" with a group of heroes who don't get along banding together because....??? FREE ZINE: We have an Ashcan edition that previews lot of these books, just send a stamp to the address below...there are samples of some great artists that have donated their time! Postage is .60 for one book, .85 for 2-3, 1.00 for 4 and up (.80 for "Realm") OR: make a flat donation of $20.00, get ALL of our books post paid + a FREE CF T-shirt! All proceeds benefit the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation and will go toward research to find a cure for this fatal, yes fatal :( respiratory disease. Please make your check our money order out to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation and send it to: CF Comics c/o CFF 200 South Hanley Ste 620 St Louis MO 63105 PS We are always looking for artists and writers willing to donate their time and talents to help us, as well as material to reprint. Here's an interview I did on the subject:http://www.thesmallpress.com/interviews/02_august/tim.html From lesterdent@hotmail.com Thu Jun 05 05:15:56 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lesterdent@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92031 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 12:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2003 12:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 12:15:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2003 12:15:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:15:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Newbie Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 415 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Charles (Charlie) Smith" X-Originating-IP: 63.164.145.198 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97031678 X-Yahoo-Profile: chasmithalpha Hey, Tim--sounds like great stuff. I think I'll order some this next payday. would you care to post the list at the Fantaseers groups too? I honestly think you'll get quite a few orders. I believe this should get you there: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/Fantaseers. there are also several writers and artists who might be interested in helping you. Drop by, post your list, and let's all talk about it! From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Thu Jun 05 10:42:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3725 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 17:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2003 17:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 17:39:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tim_tt2@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2003 17:39:50 -0000 X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92564 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 15:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2003 15:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 15:29:05 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.137] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2003 15:27:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:27:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: File Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 209 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 208.243.109.20 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Jun 2003 17:39:50 -0000 Hi again, I've posted one of the CF Comics covers to the Files section. If no one minds, I have more. And if anything, they are at least worth a look to see the great work by talented artists. Thanks Tim From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Jun 11 08:18:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32371 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 15:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2003 15:18:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 15:18:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.144] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2003 15:18:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:18:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: On the Move! SPA nears 500 members! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2753 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Greetings all, hope you're having a good day. Ian here from the SPA, doing some rounds letting people know what's up in Small Press Association land. We've been on a strong steady climb in membership for a while now (started in earnest when we formed a relationship with ICE Press, great bunch of guys they are!) and are fast approaching 500 registered members on the forum. It's a great time to get in on the learning/teaching machine known as the SPA, as it's really taking on a life of it's own. So what's really going on in the group right now? Here's some highlights: Nine, count 'em 9 new bands have been added to our website listings, and you can read about them here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Band/new.htm This includes a bunch of new material in our Jukebox, check that out on this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Music/ If you're in a band or know one, and would like to see them listed, here's how to get in: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Submitting.htm#BANDS There is the discussion of the forming of a system for publishers to use the SPA logo and printing service/ Distribution avenues as a part of our Imprint. We are currently on the lookout for a full time co-ordinator who will handle soliciting publications through traditional and non traditional means, as well as advertising for the imprint. It will be a job, and will include compensation based on performance and sales. So to get your head into the thought pattern here, read the thread, and add your ideas! http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1158 Speaking of Distribution, we're having some great conversation about the development of how Dimestore will be distributing it's publications at this topic thread. http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=653 Finally, the SPA flagship publication, Mysterious Visions Anthology, will be seeing it's final Digest sized issue soon. After that, we are planning to relaunch the title in a full size comic size. You can join in the discussion of how the title will work right now! http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1215 So that's about all the big highlights, wanted to mention that we do have a few new tweaks on the review system for those of you who read the Small Press/Independent reviews we do: You can now add your own voice to the fray, and not just click and rate publications 1-5 stars, but add a review of your own about the publication too! Just another way we try to help create the best buzz about what's good to read out there we can. Check it out at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Publisher/Newpub.asp Take care all! Keep spreading the word! Ian From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Jun 20 07:03:08 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66072 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2003 14:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jun 2003 14:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta3.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.181) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2003 14:03:03 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.94]) by mta3.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030620140257.CEYG1347.mta3.adelphia.net@business>; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:02:57 -0400 To: "Ian@Dimestoreproductions. Com" Subject: Mysterious Visions Relaunch Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:02:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I've done some thinking and figuring on getting the Mysterious Visions Anthology rolling, and here's what I came up with... When the SPA's Anthology gets rolling in full size format, we're not going to be charging a per-page rate for "getting printed". Instead, we're going to require the people buy a minimum number of copies of the book at 60% off the cover price (distributor rates) so they can then sell the copies retail at cons and in their other means of selling copies, sell copies at 50% to their local comic stores, and we're going to Deal with soliciting to Diamond with the publication as a product of the SPA's upcoming Imprint idea. We think this will make it so that people will have a vested interest in helping promote the anthology, because they will have real potential to make back their investment on the copies they will get for participating in the anthology, and make some profit too. I did some figuring of how many copies would have to be sold per page in a 36 page comic for the printing costs to be covered, based on the printing service that we run ourselves. If the book has a $2.95 cover price, then we would have to ask for 18 copies to be bought per page, which works out to $21.25 a page. So if a person does a 5 page strip, it's $106.25 that they'd owe for the copies they are asked to buy, they get 90 copies, and have the potential to sell them for $265.50. This will sell 623 copies of the book, leaving the SPA 377 copies to sell of a 1,000 copy print run. Of course, if a person thinks they can move MORE copies, they can get as many as they want at 60% off the cover price. I didn't figure in a few things on those numbers, so I think the final numbers will be just slightly more, but you see the basic premise. It gives the creators more than just a fighting chance of getting noticed, it gives them a book they can stand behind and know everyone is working to make the book a success. It also makes sure that whether Diamond carries it or not, copies will be getting out into stores and readers hands. Another way the SPA is trying to weaken the comics industries' reliance on a system that doesn't want us. so let's hear your thoughts on all that, folks. Here is the SPA forum thread for commenting: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1215 If you are not already a member of the SPA, just join up at the forum! Takes just a second, and is free! Ian Shires Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Jun 30 07:35:46 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40743 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2003 14:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jun 2003 14:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2003 14:35:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.157] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2003 14:35:25 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:35:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Word Of Mouth... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 3907 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.94 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello, everyone, from the Small Press Association... As always, We're on the move with more new ways to get more people=20 excited about small press. Today's experiment: an exercise in word=20 of mouth advertising. I'm not going to repeat the information we put=20 on the web page we're going to ask you to look at here, so I'll tell=20 you instead what ISN'T on the page, and we'll see how far we can=20 take this and how fast. Our distribution system has a solid foundation. We've been building=20 it and refining it for years. What it's really lacking right now is=20 comic stores using the system. We've seen, over the years, lots of=20 distribution plans for small press come and go. And we've seen a lot=20 of news/reviews zines come and go. Obscurity Unlimited is both a=20 news/review magazine AND a distribution system. So we've had our=20 prejudices to overcome. What the comings and goings have done is to=20 set up small press as a disjointed, unorganized, breeding ground of=20 a place, that larger companies feed off of. How does a distributor=20 handle such a market? The truth is they can't. That's why those=20 things keep coming and going. We looked at it and said, why are the=20 reviewzines and distribution plans separate things? Thus OU was=20 born. No one, in the history of small press, has approached the=20 bringing of small press/independent publications as a job. The=20 distributors and newszine editors always had 40+ hour a week day=20 jobs. And you're never going to get something solid going if you're=20 doing it in your spare time, no matter how good the ideas are. So=20 that's one of the reasons 2 years ago, I quit my day job, and=20 started the Small Press Association. Not just because I could, and=20 that my day job was killing me, but because all the ideas and=20 projects that have been set in motion since then NEED someone=20 running them as a job. Because it just won't gel any other way. Some of the great things our system allows:=20 =B7 It allows a store to pre-order copies of your publications=20 without putting any money up front, they pay for the issue when it=20 gets there. This allows great series, that are published on=20 irregular schedules, to make it into stores without the store owners=20 having to "keep an eye out" for it. They can simply tell us that=20 they want to carry the title, and how many copies they'd like when=20 it comes out, and when the publisher is ready to publish, we can=20 tell them how many copies we'll be wanting. Individuals can also=20 order individual copies from us this way. =B7 It allows a store to learn of new things they don't hear of=20 in Previews, learn which are good, and educate their customers by=20 getting OU into their hands as well. =B7 It allows the individual publisher who was doing the leg=20 work in their local stores to get their book in, to step back and=20 let OU increase their sales and presence. So when the new issue is=20 out, you're not asking a store owner if they want copies, they will=20 already have them on order, you'll be asking when you can come in to=20 do a signing of your book, and meet the public. Anyway, those are just a few things we foresee. We can imagine that=20 there are more things that can be done. As always, the SPA is a=20 collaborative project, that relies on individuals believing in the=20 system to make it work. We've come a long way in 2 years. Here's=20 where YOU can really start making a difference with us. Dimestore=20 has been around for 17 years. Obscurity Unlimited has been around=20 for 4 years. The Small Press Association, 2 years. It is our goal to=20 change how small press gets into the hands of readers, so we've=20 developed a new system to help those who help us do so. You can read=20 more about it on this page:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/WOM.asp And please=20 feel free to discuss your questions and concerns. All e-mail will be=20 responded to ASAP. Thank you all for taking the time to read this. Ian Shires From micro_heroes@rogers.com Tue Jul 01 19:55:30 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: micro_heroes@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29866 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 02:55:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Jul 2003 02:55:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 02:55:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2003 02:55:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 02:55:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fandom Come (Need Info) Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 368 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Darrin Wiltshire" X-Originating-IP: 66.185.85.69 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125127335 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Hi Fanzine Fans, I need info on the cover to Fandom Come (in the "Files" section) which came out in 1997. I have talked to the artist, but he didn't have the full cover. I was told it appeared in the latest volume of Alter Ego, but no issue number was given. If anyone has any info, or better yet a scan of the full cover, I would love to see it. Cheers, Darrin From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Tue Jul 01 20:08:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10487 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 03:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Jul 2003 03:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 03:08:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tim_tt2@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.128] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2003 03:08:15 -0000 X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42877 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 22:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jul 2003 22:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 22:05:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.143] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2003 22:05:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 22:05:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: CF COMICS PRESS RELEASE #1 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1157 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 208.243.109.20 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 02 Jul 2003 03:08:13 -0000 Available now for the first time anywhere, OMNIMAN #1!!! The great hero of fandom's past returns in an all-new 32-page comic (PLUS color covers) that features a plethora of fan heroes from the last 20 years! Nightshadow! Zap-Man! Captain Head! And many more! Featuring a fantastic cover by George Lane (see this Group's file section under "CF Comics"), plus a new pin-up by Kevin Collier the publisher of the late, great FANDOM TIMES! Secure your copy of this hot new comic zine now! Future issues will feature such fandom legends as Fran Mao, Willie Peppers, Rick McCollum, and Bill Anderson! In addition to getting in on the beginning of a great new series, you'll be helping to fight a fatal genetic disease! And you won't get put on a mailing list either! Donate $2.60 to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (or $2 plus two stamps), $3.00 post paid from Canada and get this book AND our free Ashcan of previews and sneak peeks! Donate $20 and get OMINIMAN #1, the Ashcan, a TEAM CF T-Shirt and ALL of our other CF comics POSTAGE PAID from anywhere!!! CF Comics C/o Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 200 South Hanley Suite 620 St Louis MO 63105 From pack2@fuse.net Tue Jul 08 18:28:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 74862 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 01:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2003 01:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 01:28:57 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.129] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2003 01:28:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:28:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #9 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 657 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.45.61 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Comet Tales #9 is finally printed. It's been a long time since I published a smal press book, but, heck, I'm not getting any younger, and besides, I had the urge. There are no additional copies for sale. I only printed 28 of them. (Now, there's an interesting number, huh?) I'll be sending them out. this week, first class, to people I think might get a kick out of it. I hope those that recieve it will pass it along to their friends. And, I hope someone will like it enough to ask me to do another. It was fun doing it again. Comet Tales #10 is churning in my brain so there might be another one. Who knows? Catch you all later. ----Jim Pack. From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Jul 08 20:09:20 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41618 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 03:09:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2003 03:09:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r08.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.104) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 03:09:17 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.102.3194e621 (25305) for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <102.3194e621.2c3ce150@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:09:04 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great to hear from you again, Jim! It's good to see you publishing again! Do you have any of the old guys writing or drawing in the book? Larry Blake? Mitch Sonada? Larry Nibert? How is Larry Nibert doing? Keep in touch! George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bmr3d@rcn.com Tue Jul 08 20:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40475 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 03:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2003 03:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 03:48:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: bmr3d@rcn.com Received: from [66.218.67.164] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2003 03:48:27 -0000 X-Sender: bmr3d@rcn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35732 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 01:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2003 01:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-hub2.mrf.mail.rcn.net) (207.172.4.76) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 01:48:17 -0000 Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.62]) by smtp-hub2.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 19a449-0002Cw-00 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:48:17 -0400 Received: from 216-164-18-187.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com ([216.164.18.187] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 19a448-0004YM-00 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:48:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bmr3d@pop.rcn.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:47:55 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Bruce Rosenberger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=111406837 X-Yahoo-Profile: bmr3d X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 09 Jul 2003 03:48:26 -0000 >Comet Tales #9 is finally printed. It's been a long time since I published a >smal press book, but, heck, I'm not getting any younger, and besides, I had >the urge. There are no additional copies for sale. I only printed 28 of them. >(Now, there's an interesting number, huh?) I'll be sending them out. >this week, >first class, to people I think might get a kick out of it. I hope >those that recieve >it will pass it along to their friends. And, I hope someone will >like it enough to >ask me to do another. It was fun doing it again. Comet Tales #10 is churning >in my brain so there might be another one. Who knows? Catch you all later. >----Jim Pack. Comet Tales, eh? I think we traded once upon a time! I'll have to dig the box of small press comics out of the attic and see... (I did several issues of a mini called "The Apprentice Legion.") Those were fun times. Kinda makes me want to sit down at the drawing board again! Bruce From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Jul 09 03:27:17 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44030 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2003 10:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.178) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:27:17 -0000 Received: from business ([24.54.108.94]) by mta2.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030709102716.NVKT1359.mta2.adelphia.net@business>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:27:16 -0400 To: , "Jim Pack" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:27:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 I would LOVE to be one of the recipients of that, Jim (big puppy dog eyes lookin at cha!) Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: thecomicist [mailto:pack2@fuse.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 Comet Tales #9 is finally printed. It's been a long time since I published a smal press book, but, heck, I'm not getting any younger, and besides, I had the urge. There are no additional copies for sale. I only printed 28 of them. (Now, there's an interesting number, huh?) I'll be sending them out. this week, first class, to people I think might get a kick out of it. I hope those that recieve it will pass it along to their friends. And, I hope someone will like it enough to ask me to do another. It was fun doing it again. Comet Tales #10 is churning in my brain so there might be another one. Who knows? Catch you all later. ----Jim Pack. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From mossjolly@yahoo.com Wed Jul 09 19:16:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49328 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 02:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2003 02:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 02:13:23 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.186] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2003 02:13:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:13:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1645 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 65.142.122.80 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly Very exciting news about a new COMET TALES-- Jim Pack is a true legend of small press, although I know he's too modest to admit it. But COMET TALES has always been a great comic, and it's great to see Jim publishing again, whatever the circulation. Welcome back, Jim! --stevekeeter - In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > I would LOVE to be one of the recipients of that, Jim (big puppy dog eyes > lookin at cha!) > > Ian Shires, Publisher > Dimestore Productions > www.dimestoreproductions.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: thecomicist [mailto:pack2@f...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 > > Comet Tales #9 is finally printed. It's been a long time since I published a > smal press book, but, heck, I'm not getting any younger, and besides, I had > the urge. There are no additional copies for sale. I only printed 28 of > them. > (Now, there's an interesting number, huh?) I'll be sending them out. this > week, > first class, to people I think might get a kick out of it. I hope those > that recieve > it will pass it along to their friends. And, I hope someone will like it > enough to > ask me to do another. It was fun doing it again. Comet Tales #10 is churning > in my brain so there might be another one. Who knows? Catch you all later. > ----Jim Pack. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From KINGGEO3@aol.com Wed Jul 09 20:58:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 18446 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 03:58:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2003 03:58:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r05.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.101) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 03:58:07 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.103.322a0d69 (30960) for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <103.322a0d69.2c3e3e49@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:58:01 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have all of Jim's early Fanzine '76s and '77s. But I never got lucky enough to find a copy of Fanzine '75! I don't have any of the Comet Tales issues either. Let me know if you ever wish to part with any of your fanzine collection, Bruce. I'm a big collector of those old '70 and '80 fanzines. George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Jul 14 10:45:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11235 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 17:45:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jul 2003 17:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 17:45:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.250] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2003 17:45:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:45:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Clueless at the Convention Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2329 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.60 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello out there, and it's another week busting at the seams here=20 with the SPA. First, we have the Clueless at the Convention booklet=20 ready for ordering! Coinciding with it's release at the San Diego=20 Comic Con (And if you are out there, stop in the Rummblestrips=20 Booth =96 Joanne Mutch's table - and pick up your copy signed by it's=20 editor, Sandi Layne!! And of course, check out the Rummblestrips=20 comic while you're at it!), we have put up a page online for the=20 booklet, and a bit of information about the title's future=85check it=20 out HERE: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Clueless.asp=20 =09 Besides that, the final push is on to get Obscurity Unlimited #23=20 out. I know, I know, it's running way late at this point. But you=20 can rest assured that this issue is going to help turn things=20 around, and we've got a number of tweaks and developments in line=20 now. I'm doing a bit of debating about the direction I'm going to go=20 with a few things concerning OU, but you're going to have to read=20 the issue to find out what I'm talking about. If you are not a=20 subscriber to OU, now is a GREAT time to show your support for the=20 work we are trying to do, and order at least a sample copy. Here's=20 the URL to do that:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.a sp=20 Also, if you are unaware, Steve Noppenberger (Noppie) has started=20 up, with the SPA, a special free giveaway catalog aimed at=20 conventions. Here's his contact info: Steven M. Noppenberger/ 695=20 Windsor Drive, Westminster, Maryland 21158-4200 new email s.noppenberger@verizon.net or vze39k3qa@verizon.net There=20 are still a number of spots to fill in the proposed 32 page, comic=20 book sized catalog, and pages are estimated at this time that we=20 will be charging $37 each page. Remember, the SPA is free to join and free to use, but we do hope=20 that you like the work that we do enough to show a bit of support=20 now and then. Participation in group projects is a great start.=20 Also, tell everyone you can about the efforts of the SPA to increase=20 the readerships of all small press/independent publications. Here's=20 what you can do RIGHT NOW: If you are not already a member of the=20 SPA Forum, Click Here:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/forum.asp and join up! It=20 takes about 5 minutes, and it's Free! Ian Shires From pack2@fuse.net Mon Jul 14 12:30:05 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 83271 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 19:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jul 2003 19:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 19:30:04 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.135] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2003 19:29:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:29:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #9 (Eight years later...) Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1196 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.15.61 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Hey fellow Comicists! I got a wild hair a couple of weeks ago, and printed a new issue of Comet Tales. (I knew you'd be excited... ) Full color covers, inside 4-page full color comic, 14 other pages full of strange stuff I yanked screaming and slithering out of my head. I only printed 30 of the rascals and sent out 20 free ones already to people I knew way back when. Wait a little bit and see if one shows up in your mailbox. But, if not, there are 10 remaining and they're available on a first-come, first served basis for the cost of U.S. postage and handling of $1.00. (Those of you out of the US and Canda, sorry, I can't afford to send these things out to you..... I still like you, though.) Comet Tales #10 is on the drawing board as I speak. (Yes, I still use that antique.) Should be out sometime in September or earlier. Reserve your copy today by sending a letter of comment on the current issue. (Heck, am I cheap or what??). Or, send $5.00...whichever is cheapest. Hope you all like the new issue. It sure was different. It's fun to be back, (30 copy print run... Is this small press or what?) Send your request for my mailing address to thecomicist@yahoo.com Jim Pack From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Jul 17 13:44:44 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57741 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 20:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2003 20:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11.adelphia.net) (64.8.50.205) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 20:44:44 -0000 Received: from business ([68.169.118.71]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20030717204443.FGHV22006.mta11.adelphia.net@business> for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:44:43 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 (Eight years later...) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "Ian Shires" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 I got one! I got one! Thanks so much Jim! Ian Shires, Publisher Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: thecomicist [mailto:pack2@fuse.net] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:30 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Comet Tales #9 (Eight years later...) Hey fellow Comicists! I got a wild hair a couple of weeks ago, and printed a new issue of Comet Tales. (I knew you'd be excited... ) Full color covers, inside 4-page full color comic, 14 other pages full of strange stuff I yanked screaming and slithering out of my head. I only printed 30 of the rascals and sent out 20 free ones already to people I knew way back when. Wait a little bit and see if one shows up in your mailbox. But, if not, there are 10 remaining and they're available on a first-come, first served basis for the cost of U.S. postage and handling of $1.00. (Those of you out of the US and Canda, sorry, I can't afford to send these things out to you..... I still like you, though.) Comet Tales #10 is on the drawing board as I speak. (Yes, I still use that antique.) Should be out sometime in September or earlier. Reserve your copy today by sending a letter of comment on the current issue. (Heck, am I cheap or what??). Or, send $5.00...whichever is cheapest. Hope you all like the new issue. It sure was different. It's fun to be back, (30 copy print run... Is this small press or what?) Send your request for my mailing address to thecomicist@yahoo.com Jim Pack To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 02:46:40 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42387 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 09:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2003 09:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 09:46:38 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2003 09:46:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:46:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comet Tales #9 (Eight years later...) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1540 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.253.67 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 ---Jim-hey, thanks a lot for including ME on the list of lucky ones to get a copy!! It was really great!!! I hope to see more eventually, as you and your publications have been missed in this small press world! Jim Main In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > Hey fellow Comicists! I got a wild hair a couple of weeks ago, and > printed a new issue of Comet Tales. (I knew you'd be excited... ) > Full color covers, inside 4-page full color comic, 14 other pages > full of strange stuff I yanked screaming and slithering out of my > head. I only printed 30 of the rascals and sent out 20 free ones > already to people I knew way back when. Wait a little bit and see if > one shows up in your mailbox. But, if not, there are 10 remaining and > they're available on a first-come, first served basis for the cost of > U.S. postage and handling of $1.00. > (Those of you out of the US and Canda, sorry, I can't afford to send > these things out to you..... I still like you, though.) > Comet Tales #10 is on the drawing board as I speak. (Yes, I still > use that antique.) > Should be out sometime in September or earlier. Reserve your copy > today by sending a letter of comment on the current issue. (Heck, am > I cheap or what??). Or, send $5.00...whichever is cheapest. Hope you > all like > the new issue. It sure was different. It's fun to be back, > (30 copy print run... Is this small press or what?) > > Send your request for my mailing address to thecomicist@y... > > Jim Pack From pack2@fuse.net Sat Jul 19 09:17:57 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39503 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 16:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2003 16:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.89) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 16:17:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2003 16:17:56 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:17:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales 9 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 386 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.47.47 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Hi Guys! Thanks for the great response! They're all gone. Don't send any more stamps or money. I got no more books. To insure you get #10, don't forget that letter of comment. (Yeah, yeah, I know about the big typo at the end of "Starship Captain". What can I say.? #10 is getting real close and I want to get it done before school starts up again. See you all then. THANKS AGAIN! From pack2@fuse.net Sat Jul 19 13:11:21 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71278 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 20:11:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2003 20:11:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 20:11:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.114] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2003 20:11:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:11:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Passing of a Super-Hero Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 3943 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.14.17 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist John Norris, artist and mentor, died October 23, 2002 after an extended=20 chronic illness. In his own true fashion, he left his tired body to science= =3D=0D so I=20 have no grave to cry over. There are no flowers my sad tears can water.=20 I was only recently informed about his death, almost a year ago, and, I fel= =3D=0D t=20 compelled to say something about him. His passing will not go unnoticed by = =3D=0D me, his thankful student. Where does a writer begin when he wants to say something real good about=20 a really good man? Where does a writer begin to say thank-you when "thank-= =3D=0D you" doesn't seem be good enough? I suppose it will just have to be=85=20 "Thank-you, John for being a good man". No, that's not it! Thank you John, = =3D=0D for=20 being my super-hero! Many people saw John Norris differently. To some he was a cartoonist who=20 drew caricatures for frantic holiday shoppers at the mall craft festivals, = =3D=0D to some=20 he was a teacher of commercial art at Clark County Joint Vocational School,= =3D=0D =20 to some, he was a "Dad", or a "Honey" to his lovely bride, and still, to us= =3D=0D , the=20 truly fortunate ones, he was a good friend. John left his mark on a few of us in the comic book small press. I hope I c= =3D=0D an=20 speak for them when I say, Larry Blake, Larry Nibert, and I, in one way or = =3D=0D another, owe our careers to him. He taught us what he knew about=20 Commercial Design, and when we needed it, some additional items about life = =3D=0D in general. Perhaps, in an extended way, he helped the comic book small=20 press through Larry, Larry, and me. Only time will formulate a true conclus= =3D=0D ion=20 on that latter matter. I guess it's time for a personal story about one of the most pivotal moment= =3D=0D s in=20 my life that involved "Mr. Norris". When I was a student in John's commercial art class, way back in 1969, ther= =3D=0D e=20 was no limit to the depths that stupidity could take me. John would coolly = =3D=0D watch from his desk as I stumbled into one ridiculous situation, and, my=20 seeing it was not stupid enough, on to the next. He held back from interfer= =3D=0D ing=20 with my teenage learning process contenting himself with just teaching me=20 about commercial art. That was, until, I announced to him that I was going = =3D=0D to=20 quit school in my senior year because of a girl and a terminal case of=20 unrequited love. John, I guess, had had about enough of my lack of brain=20 usage by this time. He took me aside and, in words that I could understand,= =3D=0D =20 explained to me how feloniously convicted I was of chronic stupidity. It wa= =3D=0D sn't=20 so much what he said, as it was how he said it, and the assurity of his wor= =3D=0D ds=20 and vision. It was the right moment. Sometimes, words just need the proper = =3D=0D environment to become inertia. Needless to say, the girl and I went our=20 separate ways, and John had dropkicked my butt into my future. Thanks John,= =3D=0D =20 you will never know how much my family, my own students, and I would=20 appreciate that act of honesty much later. After I grew into an adult, and became a commercial art teacher (Just like = =3D=0D him.) he was a frequent visitor to my home and classroom. We ate together, = =3D=0D talked together, played and laughed together, and, after a long while I=20 sometimes felt comfortable calling him "John" instead of "Mister Norris". There are many of us who will be deeply saddened and feel pitifully empty b= =3D=0D y=20 John's passing. There will be billions more who will never know he had ever= =3D=0D =20 existed. To those billions who never knew John Norris, I have to say, "I fe= =3D=0D el=20 sorry for you." In my mind, you missed the brief passing shadow of one of t= =3D=0D he=20 greatest human beings that ever walked the face of this decrepit earth. Thi= =3D=0D s is=20 a much better planet, now because of him. If there was ever one man on the entire Earth whom God should have granted = =3D=0D immortal status, it should have been John Norris. Thank you for listening, or reading. It helped me see his passing. I feel a= =3D=0D little=20 better now. James Pack, July 19, 2003 From jmain44@aol.com Sun Jul 20 06:58:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6269 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 13:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2003 13:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 13:58:13 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.130] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2003 13:58:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:58:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comet Tales 9 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 561 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 64.12.96.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 ---Hey Jim, what kind of paper stock did you use that held the colors so well? Jim In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > Hi Guys! Thanks for the great response! They're all gone. Don't send any > more stamps or money. I got no more books. To insure you get #10, don't > forget that letter of comment. (Yeah, yeah, I know about the big typo at the end > of "Starship Captain". What can I say.? > #10 is getting real close and I want to get it done before school starts up > again. See you all then. THANKS AGAIN! From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Jul 21 03:30:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73229 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 10:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jul 2003 10:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 10:30:48 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.18a.1d28761b (3964) for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <18a.1d28761b.2c4d1ad3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:30:43 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Passing of a Super-Hero To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a writer who couldn't find the words, it seems you did pretty good. I already miss the guy I never got the opportunity to meet! Thanks for sharing, Jim. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pack2@fuse.net Mon Jul 21 20:45:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: pack2@fuse.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9692 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 03:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jul 2003 03:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:45:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.167] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2003 03:45:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 03:45:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: My Paper Stock and Other Bafflegab Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1030 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.35.77 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=123334914 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist I haven't learned how to post a reply yet, so this will have to be a separate post. The paper I used was plain old 20lb stock. I don't know how the pages turned out that way. I thought they came out pretty good. I think the machine lays down a fuser that treats the paper and then lays down the CMYK. Got me. It is a lot better job than that clunky Xerox 5750 that I used to have. This one is a Toshiba and it works real well. I just finished the first strip for Comet Tales #10. Hard at work on the second. Everything seems to be on schedule for an August or September printing. Hey, I'm gonna print 50 this time. Whoooooaaaa! (Big time small press), Just heard from Larry Nibert this morning. He says his hands and fingers are feeling better and wants to try to draw something. So, cross your fingers. Okay....if anybody can teach me how to post a reply to a message instead of posting new stuff, let me know. Don't forget to send your LOC to me for the next issue. (Please?) I'm a big boy, I can take the criticism. From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Tue Jul 22 14:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71347 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 21:32:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jul 2003 21:32:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 21:32:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: tim_tt2@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2003 21:32:14 -0000 X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22534 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 19:34:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jul 2003 19:34:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 19:34:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2003 19:34:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:34:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: CF Comics reviews Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 6092 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 208.243.109.20 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 22 Jul 2003 21:32:10 -0000 George Lane was kind enough to review ALL of the CF books on the boards of another fanzine Yahoo Group, and here it is: What can I say! WOW!!! I have in my possession all 13 current issues of the CF Comics line! Many of these comics(fanzines?) have color covers! The comics are digest- sized. These books are very professional with good logos. A few of the comics are reprints of sold-out, and very rare fanzines from the '70s and '80s! One of these fanzines is: Glock #1 This comic is a reprint of Joe Teal's 1981 work! With a new and beautifully outstanding color front and back cover by Mikel Whelan, it's filled with a very fannish story of a Frankenstein/Hulk character named Glock with cartoonish overtones. It's fun with a special new epilogue leaving it open for continuance in the CF Comics' Universe. The 5 Protectors #1 More beautiful color cover work! This time drawn by Guy Burwell. The logo was designed by Kevin Collier. The story was written and drawn by "Stan Kirby." I think we know him by another name. The story is a time traveling story with the introduction of The 5Protectors, the premiere CF Comics' superheroes. The 5 Protectors #2 This is the continuing story from issue number 1 with great artwork by Guy Burwell and story by Tim Temmel! This story is the second part of a trilogy adventure with the final, third part being drawn by Nick (Filthy McNasty) Alenikov! I can't wait! Hero Bijou #1 The first issue of this book is a compilation comic. It has three short stories featuring three, new CF Comics superheroes! First off is the revised story of a character apply named "Superhero." It's drawn very well by Guy Burwell with some revisions by Tim Temmel. The second short story is very well written and drawn by Jim Thompson featuring a 1985 character named Terry Landis, Champion. The last short story is yet another great Tim Temmel creation called the Nebulizer. The story centers around a terrorist plot thwarted by the new hero. Hero Bijou #2 The second issue sports a beautiful Mike Grell/Gary Barker cover of Jerry Foley's mystical fanzine hero, Nightshadow! The book reprints the very first issue of Jerry's Nightshadow character from 1979! The back cover reprints the original Nightshadow front cover of #1. Great book with good, old awesome Jerry's early work! Lots of fun! Captain Fantastic #1 This one introduces Captain Fantastic, Al Buterol, and the CF Superteam! It has a great cover with all of these characters in a tribute to Jack Kirby's issue number 100 of Captain America! Inside story and artwork is by Stan Kirby! Some characters in the story were created by a CF patient named Lucas Parrish! The guy's got some imagination! Captain Fantastic #2 This issue features a short prologue story with Captain Fantastic written by Mark Reeder and drawn by Vernon Smith. The second longer story is very well written and drawn by Stan Kirby. Both stories show the possible consequences of superheroes who DON'T keep their identities secret enough. Again, very well written. CF Comics Presents #1 This issue features Lucas Parrish's creation, Al Buterol, and introduces his new character, Tobi Mycin. It has a guest appearance by Captain Fantastic and a beautiful color cover by Cal Slayton! The first story centers on an adventure with Al Buterol with writing and art chores by Stan Kirby. It has a nice dedication to Jack "The King" Kirby! The second short story introduces Tobi Mycin in a continued origin adventure. CF Comics Presents #2 This issue is a manga-style story written and drawn by Sugiarto Aliputra (aka ZOO) called Heart Attack. He created a great color cover for this issue also. CF Comics Presents #3 Great color cover and interior story and artwork done by Jeff Rothe! Beautiful artwork!! CF Comics Presents #4 This issue is a compilation of several different CF characters. It is an Ashcan Edition that centers on introducing the new reader to CF Comics by focusing with a few pages of each of their characters. (Available for one stamp!) Realm of Fantasy #9 WOW, this one has it all! Fantastic front color cover by Guy Burwell! The inside, 21 page, all action story is written and drawn by Tim Temmel featuring about every CF Comics superhero and some from the competition! It also features a great history on Tim's past fanzine endeavors and wraps up with the Doc Patriot story by Nasty that was reprinted from Matt Bucher's "Dead Heroes & Fascists." Omniman #1 Twenty years in the making! Nice color cover by "yours truly" with a bunch of nice artwork featuring Gary Barker, Tim Temmel, and Kevin Collier! If you thought Realm of Fantasy #9 had a fantastic bunch of superheroes, you ain't seen nothing yet! You can have a blast just playing "who's who" in the fanzine genre with this fun issue that reintroduces the fan to Matt Bucher's premiere character from the '80s! The history of Omniman is told in a great concept story that introduces new supporting characters with a thought-provoking new direction for a (dead?) character! You can't miss this one! This issue is dedicated to the memory of Gil Kane and Tim did some of his best work in an obvious tribute to Mr. Kane! Well, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen! A very long review but I wanted to share it with all of you because these books are simply too much fun! These comics are clear examples of why fandom exists! Tim has captured much of what is fun and exciting about fanzines! He has reprinted several old characters so that we can be familiar with them again before he starts publishing new work with those selfsame characters! And to top it off, your money goes to help children with Cystic Fibrosis! It's a great cause with great comics for a little cash! It's a win/win situation! - George Lane 7/11/03 Donate $20 to CF research and get ALL the books above and a FREE Team CF T-shirt! (Or order one of the above books for $2.00 POST PAID and get the Ashcan too!) CF Comics c/o Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 200 South Hanley Suite 620 St Louis MO 63105 From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Jul 22 20:16:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3906 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 03:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jul 2003 03:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:16:07 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.a5.3d30f556 (25305) for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:16:02 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] My Paper Stock and Other Bafflegab To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, you just hit the "reply" square on the right-hand side of the post. After hitting the "reply" square, a new "write" screen will show up with the "send to" and "subject" boxes already filled in and waiting for you to write in your reply. Good luck. George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nova64@mchsi.com Thu Jul 24 08:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6467 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 15:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jul 2003 15:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 15:34:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.142] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2003 15:34:37 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85855 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 15:04:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jul 2003 15:04:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 15:04:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.114] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2003 15:04:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:04:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Anyone selling Super Adventures? Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 221 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Doug" X-Originating-IP: 63.254.129.27 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 24 Jul 2003 15:34:35 -0000 Hi, everyone! I'm getting ready for Wizard World Chicago and was wondering if anyone knew of any dealers who might be there with fanzines for sale? Specifically, Marv Wolfman's Super Adventures fanzine. Thanks! Doug From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 20:36:37 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1852 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 03:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2003 03:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 03:36:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2003 03:36:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:36:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #10 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1027 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.45.105 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Comet Tales #10 will be ready to go the second week in August. A four-page full color horror strip called "Donations Appreciated", a six-page "new" Martian Cat strip called "Duty", a Sci-Fi Bedtime Story called "Haf-Time", full color cover of a water color I lost my mind on, a letters page, and some other strange stuff I found writhing around in a forgotten closet of my mind. Same deal as last. $1.00 for postage for all those who didn't get the last one. Write email to me for my mailing address. I'm going big time and printing 50 of them this time. Wow! What an empire I'm building here! I'll be looking for contributions for #11 but, unfortunately, with school starting, the publishing date for that one is a bit on the foggy side and I can't pay anything except copies. Don't forget to send your comments on #9 to thecomicist@yahoo.com. See yall then. P.S. The Manjack strip advertised in #9 did not get finished. I have trouble doing super-hero stuff. I hope it will be ready for 11... whenever that is. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Jul 28 11:54:50 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12981 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 18:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2003 18:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.108) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 18:54:49 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2003 18:54:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:54:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OU #23 Now Available! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1234 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 24.54.108.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Obscurity Unlimited #23 is officially done and printing and ready for any of you out there that AREN'T subscribers. It's another big 32 page issue, with a cover by the winner of ToteMan's Blue Lemur contest: Timothy Tobolski! OU is your guide to what's going on in the small press world, with reviews of publications, music CDs, and you can order dozens of titles at less than cover price! For a sneak peek at the cover and ordering information, go to this page: Http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.a sp Up next: Mysterious Visions Anthology gets it's LAST digest sized issue, a monster that'll print ALL the remaining pieces we have on hand submitted to MVA, gearing up for the re-vamp of the title into a full sized comic book format. For those looking to read more about this, go here: Http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1215 Also: If you are following the SPX Catalog giveaway book, it's moved into next stage, and we're looking for a Cover for the book here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1380 there are still a FEW pages left in this Ad book, and if you have an interest in being a part of it, check in soon! Ian Shires From jwc33406@hotmail.com Tue Aug 05 14:38:42 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jwc33406@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47096 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2003 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2003 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.106) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2003 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2003 21:38:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:38:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: some great recent 'zines... Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1063 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Jim" X-Originating-IP: 209.214.14.86 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72466883 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam Man, I've gotten some cool stuff recently - Comet Tales #9 (Jim Pack's Rocket Graphics) - Now this a great mag that really verges on professional in all senses. It has great printing, well done stories ("Incident at a Bar" is excellent), and it even has ads. I want to see more of this stuff - are any older issues still available? Heroes of Fandom #1 (Darrin Wiltshire's PR Publications ?) - Fun, fun, fun reprint of an old Richard Buckler story from a fanzine (I believe). The printing was "spotty", but the story was worth the trouble. Maybe it was copied from a mimeographed fanzine that didn't repoduce that well. Regardless, it's a great read. All-Aces Comics #1 (PR Publications) - Color cover and well printed reprints of obscure G.A. characters, Nightmare and Sleepy and Micro- Face. What can I say, don't miss it. B.C. Studios Presents #1 (Bradley Cobb's B.C. Studios) - This one is not as professional in execution, but it makes up for it in "heart". Keep 'em comin' Brad... Who says the Golden Age of Fanzines is past..? ~Jim From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Aug 05 14:52:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 80460 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2003 21:52:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2003 21:52:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2003 21:52:57 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.17.3c24547e (3858) for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <17.3c24547e.2c618132@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:52:50 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] some great recent 'zines... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/5/03 2:39:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jwc33406@hotmail.com writes: > Can anyone else get these? There's no point in putting a lot of work into a fanzine, then publishing 25 or 50 copies. The point of self-publishing is to reach interested fans. Otherwise you're doing little more than passing them out to your neighbors. When fandom was much smaller (like the 1950s) faneds usually printed more than just 25 copies. Apas only do 25 to 50 copes but that's a closed circle of contributors, and even some of them make their 'zines available to others after the apa has been distributed. It just seems pointless for someone to announce they did a 'zine and then say, "Sorry, only did 25 copies. They're all gone now." -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From micro_heroes@rogers.com Tue Aug 05 15:35:20 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: micro_heroes@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29781 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2003 22:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2003 22:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com) (66.185.86.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2003 22:35:20 -0000 Received: from main ([24.102.1.70]) by fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20030805223428.EPNB392870.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@main> for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: <001e01c35ba1$d269fed0$46016618@main> To: References: Subject: Re: [cbzines] some great recent 'zines... Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:35:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.102.1.70] using ID at Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:34:25 -0400 From: "Darrin Wiltshire" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125127335 X-Yahoo-Profile: customego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Thanks for the kind words. :) The original was ditto, and had some ditto fading, but I tried my best to bring out the lines as best as I could. The only alternative would have been to redraw most of it, and I just don't have the time to do that. Anyone who wants a copy (8 pages, digest-size, B&W interiors and cover; art by David Ellis), cost is $1.25 postpaid. <> Also available for $2.50 postpaid (12 pages, digest-size, B&W interiors with color cover; art by David Ellis) Buy both for $3.50 postpaid. Email me if interested at (toys4u@yahoo.com) Best, Darrin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Aug 05 19:09:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91072 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 02:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2003 02:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2003 02:09:52 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.183.1ecc509f (25305) for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <183.1ecc509f.2c61bd66@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:09:42 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] some great recent 'zines... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got to agree with your post of good recent fanzines being published, Jim! I got a copy of Comet Tales #9 also! Excellent fanzine! Very reminiscient of the "good old days" of fanzine publishing! We need more of this type of work produced! George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Tue Aug 05 19:13:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3518 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 02:13:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2003 02:13:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2003 02:13:27 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.64.32bdce96 (25305) for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <64.32bdce96.2c61be3b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:13:15 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] some great recent 'zines... To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wish Jim Pack had published more of his Comet Tales #9 also. Perhaps he could make the pages of the book available on a website for everyone to see? George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From malinn@cox.net Wed Aug 06 09:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36837 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 16:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2003 16:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2003 16:34:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: malinn@cox.net Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2003 16:34:37 -0000 X-Sender: malinn@cox.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41561 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 14:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2003 14:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2003 14:03:00 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2003 14:03:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:02:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: fanzine trade Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 276 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "malinn12000" X-Originating-IP: 68.2.215.80 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=147777469 X-Yahoo-Profile: malinn12000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 06 Aug 2003 16:34:34 -0000 I have a few extra odds and ends that I wold love to trade for simular items. Captain Chucky's FVP and stories volume 4 #7 Fantastic exploits no 23 by John Adkins Richardson Phoenix Con 72 program San Diego Comiccon program 1980 I can send pictures Michael malinn@cox.net From tazwert@yahoo.com Wed Aug 06 14:05:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19554 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2003 21:05:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2003 21:05:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2003 21:05:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.189] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2003 21:05:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:05:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT: FallCon turns Fifteen! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 395 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Paul Ewert" X-Originating-IP: 12.104.244.38 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert Just a quick note to all comics and animation fans out there. Mark your calendars. FallCon 2003 is coming. This is our 15th year, so this FallCon is going to be fantastic! What: FallCon 2003 When: October 4 & 5, 2003 Where: Education Building Minnesota State Fairgrounds 1372 Cosgrove St. St. Paul, MN For more info visit: http://www.mncba.com/Fallcon/Index.htm From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sat Aug 09 08:07:42 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67040 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2003 15:07:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2003 15:07:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2003 15:07:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2003 15:07:41 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 15:07:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Printing Small Press Comics Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1616 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.44.170 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist I am responding to Van Hise's comment about printing small numbers of Zines to send out to people who would like to receive them. Having just printed two issues of Comet Tales which had a print run of 60 copies all together, you might say I take the comment a bit personally. Having printed and distributed thousands of comic books in the past, I have no need to satisfy my ego by once again embarking down that path. Been there, done that, didn't care for it. I draw and print now because I like to do so. It's fun, it's intellectually stimulating, and its personal. After 30+ years in the world of commercial design, I have satisfied myself financially and occupationally. I cannot understand where Van Hise comes from when he denigrates a publisher for not printing a huge amount of issues. Sounds like bad kharma to me. I've read a few of the books in which James has been involved, Of particular note was the The "How to Draw Art for Comic Books". It was immensely unsatisfying. It was more of a hero worship book than what the title hawked. It was one book that should have had a print run large enough to send out to the people who were idolized in the book and left at that. I'm saddened by Mr. Van Hise's attitude towards art and publishing. I used to think he was a highly influential and intelligent part of the small press community. I was wrong. Commercialism appears to be his core. I hope no one minds if I don't share that outlook. ----Jim Pack P.S. I printed 35 copies of Comet Tales #10. I'll send the extras to anybody who wants to send a dollar for the postage. Fini From flash14221@yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 20:20:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: flash14221@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87430 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2003 03:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2003 03:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2003 03:20:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2003 03:20:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:20:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Printing Small Press Comics Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3247 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "flash14221" X-Originating-IP: 67.20.233.217 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=60061398 X-Yahoo-Profile: flash14221 Well, Jim Van Hise IS a proffesional writer so I guess commercialism is NOT a realy valid complaint. That would be like critizising your doctor for being too "medical"! In all fairness I understand Jim's complaint that there should be more copies of "good stuff" available, but as a 'zine publisher myself I know how it really is! My first fanzine, Midnite Masquerader #1 had a print run of 100 copies. I gave away over 20, sold 30 and still have around 50 copies sitting around. Issues 2 through 4 had print runs of 15 to 20 copies. I learned to "print to order" in blocks of 10. A real pain I assure you. The truth be told I don't really think there exists a market for the good old homemade nonproffesional fanzine anymore. Zines done for the love of the genre and NOT as a commercial endevour just don't cut it anymore! Regardless of the quality of the material and the professional content the high cost of printing makes it very difficult for the average fan. It's not like the '60's when you could put together a zine for under a dollar and postage be under a quarter! Look at JVH"s new RBCC. (I am SO glad to have it back, believe me! I'll buy EVERY issue for as long as it"s around!) What once cost a couple of bucks is now ten dollars with 4 dollars postage! The "Little guy" who's puting out a zine for the love of it (Remember that?) just can't afford mortgaging the house to publish it!! Anyway, that's just my two cents worth!!! Gord --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > I am responding to Van Hise's comment about printing small numbers of > Zines to send out to people who would like to receive them. Having just > printed two issues of Comet Tales which had a print run of 60 copies all > together, you might say I take the comment a bit personally. Having printed > and distributed thousands of comic books in the past, I have no need to satisfy > my ego by once again embarking down that path. Been there, done that, > didn't care for it. I draw and print now because I like to do so. It's fun, it's > intellectually stimulating, and its personal. After 30+ years in the world of > commercial design, I have satisfied myself financially and occupationally. I > cannot understand where Van Hise comes from when he denigrates a > publisher for not printing a huge amount of issues. Sounds like bad kharma to > me. I've read a few of the books in which James has been involved, Of > particular note was the The "How to Draw Art for Comic Books". It was > immensely unsatisfying. It was more of a hero worship book than what the title > hawked. It was one book that should have had a print run large enough to > send out to the people who were idolized in the book and left at that. I'm > saddened by Mr. Van Hise's attitude towards art and publishing. I used to > think he was a highly influential and intelligent part of the small press > community. I was wrong. Commercialism appears to be his core. I hope no > one minds if I don't share that outlook. > ----Jim Pack > > P.S. I printed 35 copies of Comet Tales #10. I'll send the extras to anybody > who wants to send a dollar for the postage. Fini From mossjolly@yahoo.com Wed Aug 13 06:47:30 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27303 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2003 13:47:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2003 13:47:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.107) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2003 13:47:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.149] by n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2003 13:47:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:47:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Printing Small Press Comics Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 5375 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.242.177.238 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly There never has been a "market" for homemade comics done for the fun of it, maybe that's part of the point. You just do them and you send them out and if people like them they'll say so and if they don't, well, maybe they'll say that too. But I do my comics for exactly that reason... because I enjoy doing them, and also for the feedback I get from others (and also because, after over 20 years of doing this sort of thing, I just don't know how to stop! Ahem.). I'm currently the chairman of the BPP, and losing money even on every issue of the group Newsletter that I publish (we keep the dues low to make it easy to be a member, part of the money for pubbing the NL comes out of my own pocket). But who cares?-- I'm not in it to make money, and most of the members don't have such delusions either. Maybe they're doing it strictly for the fun of it (and I assure you that, indeed, a great many small pressers are still publishing for that very reason alone), maybe for other reasons, but hardly anyone actually sells more than a handful of their zines-- they're usually giveaways or trades, so the idea of a market for fanzines is really a pipe dream. But I agree that publishing costs are too high!-- even photocopy prices add up if you pub often. So one can only do what one can, as one can afford it. To me, small press publishing is a labor of love. I love doing and pubbing comics, it's very satisfying creatively, and I enjoy hearing what folks have to say about my labors. I just can't agree that "the love of the genre and not as a commercial endeavor just doesn't cut it anymore." That may work for some people, but for me and some others... the love of the genre remains the driving force. I'm not knocking anyone else's reasons for publishing, but these are mine. --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "flash14221" wrote: > Well, Jim Van Hise IS a proffesional writer so I guess commercialism > is NOT a realy valid complaint. That would be like critizising your > doctor for being too "medical"! In all fairness I understand Jim's > complaint that there should be more copies of "good stuff" available, > but as a 'zine publisher myself I know how it really is! > My first fanzine, Midnite Masquerader #1 had a print run of 100 > copies. I gave away over 20, sold 30 and still have around 50 copies > sitting around. Issues 2 through 4 had print runs of 15 to 20 copies. > I learned to "print to order" in blocks of 10. A real pain I assure > you. The truth be told I don't really think there exists a market for > the good old homemade nonproffesional fanzine anymore. Zines done for > the love of the genre and NOT as a commercial endevour just don't cut > it anymore! Regardless of the quality of the material and the > professional content the high cost of printing makes it very > difficult for the average fan. It's not like the '60's when you could > put together a zine for under a dollar and postage be under a quarter! > Look at JVH"s new RBCC. (I am SO glad to have it back, believe me! > I'll buy EVERY issue for as long as it"s around!) What once cost a > couple of bucks is now ten dollars with 4 dollars postage! > The "Little guy" who's puting out a zine for the love of it (Remember > that?) just can't afford mortgaging the house to publish it!! > Anyway, that's just my two cents worth!!! > Gord > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" > wrote: > > I am responding to Van Hise's comment about printing small numbers > of > > Zines to send out to people who would like to receive them. Having > just > > printed two issues of Comet Tales which had a print run of 60 > copies all > > together, you might say I take the comment a bit personally. Having > printed > > and distributed thousands of comic books in the past, I have no > need to satisfy > > my ego by once again embarking down that path. Been there, done > that, > > didn't care for it. I draw and print now because I like to do so. > It's fun, it's > > intellectually stimulating, and its personal. After 30+ years in > the world of > > commercial design, I have satisfied myself financially and > occupationally. I > > cannot understand where Van Hise comes from when he denigrates a > > publisher for not printing a huge amount of issues. Sounds like bad > kharma to > > me. I've read a few of the books in which James has been > involved, Of > > particular note was the The "How to Draw Art for Comic Books". It > was > > immensely unsatisfying. It was more of a hero worship book than > what the title > > hawked. It was one book that should have had a print run large > enough to > > send out to the people who were idolized in the book and left at > that. I'm > > saddened by Mr. Van Hise's attitude towards art and publishing. I > used to > > think he was a highly influential and intelligent part of the small > press > > community. I was wrong. Commercialism appears to be his core. I > hope no > > one minds if I don't share that outlook. > > ----Jim Pack > > > > P.S. I printed 35 copies of Comet Tales #10. I'll send the extras > to anybody > > who wants to send a dollar for the postage. Fini From thecomicist@yahoo.com Fri Aug 22 18:53:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52948 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2003 01:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2003 01:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2003 01:53:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.142] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2003 01:53:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:53:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #10 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 177 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.47.131 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist I hope everyone recieved a copy of CT 10. Be sure and send your put-downs and criticisms to my mail so I can have a letters column in the next issue. (Whenever that is) Thanx From mossjolly@yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 08:16:29 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: mossjolly@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34354 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2003 15:16:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2003 15:16:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2003 15:16:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.149] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2003 15:14:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:14:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Comet Tales #10 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 945 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Steve Keeter" X-Originating-IP: 67.242.177.168 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=120585195 X-Yahoo-Profile: mossjolly I received my copy of COMET TALES #10 a coupla days ago, I'll review it soon (tied up at work all this week, but I'll get to it, promise). First impression is that I'm stunned again! It even blows away the last issue, especially the incredible full-color strip "Donations Appreciated" (shades of Berni Wrightson on that one). I'll have to look hard to find something to criticize, just to balance out the review. But I haven't read the fiction yet, so, who knows?-- maybe you blew it right there (LOL). But really, this is some great work, the care you put into it really shows. Great to have you back, Jim. --stevekeeter --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > I hope everyone recieved a copy of CT 10. Be sure and send your put- downs > and criticisms to my mail so I can have a letters column in the next issue. > (Whenever that is) Thanx From nightray2002@yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 09:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37649 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2003 16:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2003 16:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.103) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2003 16:57:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nightray2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2003 16:57:48 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49705 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2003 16:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2003 16:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2003 16:15:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2003 16:15:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:15:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Small Press profitless margin - Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 9943 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 68.38.181.250 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 27 Aug 2003 16:57:47 -0000 I received an email that there was a small press publisher who'd been publishing for 17 years and hadn't seen a profit in all that time. I pondered this and responded: The Small Press isn't designed to make a profit. No single publication will ever have a wide enough circulation by itself to ever make a profit but if enough self publishers banned together, established a consistent schedule and produced in a timely fashion then it could be possible. That, however, would take an enormous amount of faith in community and I just don't see that happening in the Small Press. Too many of the small press have small expectations and certainly don't want to share the spotlight with anyone else on that climb to hopeful stardom. While at Wizard World Philadelphia I personally stopped at just under 50 small press tables and asked why they hadn't banned together to form a small press publishing venture? The answer almost to a man was that they were waiting for someone to set it up for them so they could just plug into it. Not one of them was willing to be part of what it would take to set it up. With that kind of resistance I'm surprised there's a small press at all. Joe Quesada of Marvel states in Marvelle # 7 that no matter what a small press publisher produces, he'll still go belly-up because no matter what they produce on the creative side, they won't have the resourses to survive while trying to find an audience. There was a report once in one of the fan mags that the Marvel 'Conan' book was on the verge of cancellation at book six when it's writer, Roy Thomas, lobbied for Marvel to continue it for another issue or two. By issue eight the sales figures showed it had an audience and the rest is history. Let's do the math: If it takes a minimum of seven issues to find your audience (keep in mind that these figures were from and established company and not an unknown one) and that to produce an independent comic book with a print run that will give you a chance to make a profit you'll spend about $2,000. Multiply that by seven or eight issues and you'll see that no one small press company can afford it. This takes into account that the book sells while in the marketplace. If it isn't selling then you're really up a creek without not only an oar but without a boat as well. After all is said and done you'll have spent over $14,000 on printing of the book alone. Forget paying your creative staff or advertising. Ouch! So the reality of it is that we do it for our love of the medium but secretely hope it'll take off at some point to make it truely worth the while (profitable) . Meanwhile, we have to have other jobs to pay for it and we produce it only when we've fed the family, paid the mortgage, stayed out of jail by giving a third to Uncle Sam, and taken care everything else before beginning to print the thing that makes of feel connected to the creative universe. We know we love this stuff and I suspect some of us wouldn't have it any other way. Darrell Goza Interestingly enough just as I'd emailed the above commentary, I received my CBEM weelky issue which had these two little items: CROSSGEN RELEASES STATEMENT ON FINANCES [Press release sent to THE PULSE 8/19/03 - For clarity I have omitted Heidi's introductory editorial comment, as it contributed to some misunderstanding when read in conjunction to the release on the PULSE's message boards. - D.L.] Tonight, Bill Rosemann, CrossGen's Director of Marketing & Communications released the following statement: "As you may have guessed, CrossGen is currently experiencing some growing pains. And while recent events--some a result of financial matters and others merely unfortunately timed coincidences--have been frustrating, we've also seen the best in the character of both our staff and our partners in the industry. As we've previously announced, CrossGen is currently participating in an investment round for product expansion, which we expect will be concluded shortly. During this time, some outside sources that owe us significant money haven't delivered as they were contracted to, which has impacted our activities. While we're waiting for these funds to come in, art director Bart Sears has contacted nearly every single CrossGen freelancer--while Mark Alessi has personally talked with over 20 creators--explaining that everyone (even the three creators who were recently removed from assignments due to unsatisfactory work and blown delivery dates) will be paid in full as soon as is possible. We apologize for this delay in payment, and we greatly appreciate the patience and professionalism of our freelance creators. As we're arranging payment, Mark welcomes any CrossGen freelancer to call him if they have any additional questions or concerns. During the past weeks, Mark has been entirely up front concerning our current situation with our staff creators, who--despite being contacted and recruited by competing comic publishers--have shown unwavering support to CrossGen. This display of loyalty is something that Mark greatly appreciates and will never forget. The entire staff has also been impressed by the quiet but strong support of many industry partners, such as Wizard's Fred Pierce, Quebecor's Richard Tremblay and Paul Ronko, and Comics Buyer's Guide's Mark Williams. While they didn't seek credit, their anonymous rallying has been phenomenal. While at the Chicago convention, when asked to name a 'sleeper hit' that more readers should check out, Marvel's Joe Quesada amazingly named our very own Route 666. It's small but priceless actions of such as this that really count. There are many people who want CrossGen to succeed, and we greatly appreciate their offers of help and support. So while recent weeks have been frustrating, it's also been a valuable learning experience that has taught us both about ourselves and our friends. And while many people talk about the negativity that has seeped into our industry, we'd like to thank all those who have revealed their true positive natures. As the heroes of our youth have taught us, character is proven not when times are good, but when the going is tough...and while we all like to read about heroes in the pages of comics, it's cool to see the heroic side of those real people working around us every day. Sincerely, Bill Rosemann" LAROSA AND RIGGS RESPONDS TO CROSSGEN BY HEIDI MACDONALD Following the release last night of a statement from CrossGen on their financial situation, several Crossgen freelancers have made comments of their own. Asked for comment, inker Robin Riggs replied, " As far as I'm concerned all Crossgen has to do is pay the full amount they owe for work done." Penciller Lewis Larosa has responded with a statement of his own. Larosa pencilled a fill in issue of SOJOURN for CrossGen, and has received only a partial payment for his work. He released the following response: The reason guys like me who have signed contracts with CrossGen have come forward about about this matter is because they were not paying out according to the agreed upon payment schedule in our contracts and most attempts at reaching the company regarding the matter seemed to be ignored. Also, I'm flat broke, so I didn't see that any other options at getting a response regarding prompt payment were available to me. The reason I was delinquent with pages, as Rosemann mentions, is due to me refusing to send in work until I had a check in my hands. This was after I had not received payment as agreed. I felt as though I was being given the runaround when I tried to get an answer regarding the matter. Only after weeks of hounding the company and refusing to send in work 'til I had received payment did they finally call me and tell me about their cash flow problems - and this was not until after the due date they had given me for my pages had come and gone. On top of this, they told me it would be at least a month before I would receive further payment. And being that it'd been months since I'd been paid due to me waiting on them for my promised assignments and then the promised payment, the check quickly went to paying rent and bills and I had to find other means to pay the next month's rent as I could not rely on CrossGen to pay me before then. I hope it's understandable that being able to pay rent, keep the lights on, and feed myself and my loved one take priority. Tom Derenick (an incredibly nice, professional guy who's given permission for his name to be used here) was brought on to finish my fill-in issue. The problem is that CrossGen was fully aware of their cash flow problems and their inability to pay freelancers in a timely manner yet did not inform Tom of this and hired him anyway. Now he is in the same boat as several others of us freelancers, who have no idea when we'll see payment and have extreme difficulty getting a hold of CG on the matter. I would have warned guys like Tom if I could since CG failed to do so. I don't know if Rosemann meant to include me in the jab about the quality of some freelance work, but when I first began to ask about the delinquent payments back in May I was worried that they simply were not happy with my work, but the Art Director assured me that they looked great. I was even being told there was a strong possibility they'd want me down there next year as a full time employee. All this being said, I mean no ill will towards the company and all the nice, uber talented people that work down there. Those creators deserve all the success in the world. I do not want anyone to boycott crossgen or bash them. in fact, I encourage everyone to give their books a shot. NEGATION and PATH are two of my favorites. This matter is simply about communication, honesty, and being able to keep a roof over our heads and food on our tables. -- Lewis Larosa From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Fri Aug 29 13:13:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 13345 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2003 20:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2003 20:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2003 20:13:04 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.249] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2003 20:12:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:12:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Omniman #2 available!!! 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CF Comics c/o Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 200 South Hanley Suite 620 St Louis MO=20 63105 From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sat Aug 30 07:00:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81592 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2003 14:00:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2003 14:00:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.108) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2003 14:00:02 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.145] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2003 13:59:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:59:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Obscurity Unlimited #23 Reviews now posted!!! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 699 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.137 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Obscurity Unlimited #23 Reviews now posted!!! Here's the URL for going and getting lost in the sea of reviews of=20 small press items that we've got in store for you:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Obscurity/Publisher/Newpub.asp=20 You will see that we not just review books, but also let you ADD=20 YOUR COMMENTS to the reviews/ provide your OWN reviews. And even=20 RATE publications in the Stars system. So check it out, enjoy it=85and=20 if you think you'd like a copy=85hit the ADD to Cart button, and GET=20 IT! You can also save it to a SAVED cart for later=85e-mail a notice=20 of the item to friends you think will like it too. 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Ian Shires From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sun Aug 31 16:58:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55846 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2003 23:58:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Aug 2003 23:58:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.104) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 23:58:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.113] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2003 23:58:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:58:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Profitless Publishing Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1400 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.15.250 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist I wish I could have said it as well as Darrell did. He has a way with words that puts it right on the line. Good Work. I've been involved in Small Press Publishing since 1975 and have made a profit only once. (The Comicist). Andt he only way that was possible was because I bought a used offset printing press and printed the darn thing myself. I made about $300.00 a month on it. The only monetary outlay was to the writers and artists I paid, and (of course) the postage. But, it wasn't enough of a profit to go buy a Mercedes with. It was enough though, to buy ink and paper and stay afloat. Now, 28 years later, I've learned to publish for the fun of it. I'm an artist... a creator. I'm just looking for an audience to read my stuff. To heck with profit. I'll stop when I get tired, and, I'll publish when I have something to draw or write. Now, it's finally fun. I believe that the Small Press Comic Movement will be noted in years to come as an important part of the Comic Book genre-- just as the Science Fiction Fan Press has been. It's philanthropic aspect alone makes it unusual in such a cutthroat industry. I'm building a list of people who like to read or see what I've done. They're my friends. As long as I have money to pay postage to send them out, and a laser printer to print them on, I'll keep on keeping on. Profit? Who cares? It's the creativity that counts. From culmbank@yahoo.com Thu Sep 11 16:04:04 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: culmbank@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27514 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2003 23:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2003 23:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.105) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2003 23:04:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.142] by n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2003 23:04:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:04:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: spx Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 43 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "culmbank" X-Originating-IP: 209.92.48.106 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=126758590 X-Yahoo-Profile: culmbank did anyone here attend the spx this year ? From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Sep 11 16:28:22 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39552 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2003 23:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2003 23:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2003 23:28:22 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.145.18bb884b (2168) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <145.18bb884b.2c925f0f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:28:15 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] spx To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/11/03 4:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, culmbank@yahoo.com writes: > There's an interesting report on SPX in the September 11th installment of of Comics Journal's Journalista! page at http://www.tcj.com/journalista/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Thu Sep 11 17:35:27 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37207 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2003 00:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2003 00:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com) (66.185.86.72) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 00:35:27 -0000 Received: from rogers.com ([24.192.75.124]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20030912003514.RKGU7069.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com> for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:35:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3F61147B.6050004@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:34:03 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] spx References: <145.18bb884b.2c925f0f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.192.75.124] using ID at Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:35:08 -0400 From: Blake Bell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > There's an interesting report on SPX in the September 11th installment > of Comics Journal's Journalista! page at http://www.tcj.com/journalista/ From me!... http://www.ditko.comics.org/ditko/newspx.html SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org * The GENE COLAN Art Gallery - 50+ years & still going strong : http://www.geocities.com/gcolan/ From KINGGEO3@aol.com Mon Sep 15 08:46:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53529 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2003 15:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2003 15:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2003 15:46:02 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.c3.37c55d58 (30950) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:45:50 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #10 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great new issue of Comet Tales, Jim! I finally got off of my but and caught up on my reading last weekend! I was totally floored by this newest installment from Rocket Graphics! It was so nice to see The Martian Cat Chronicles again! Wow! The nostalgia is thick in this one! The color was very spooky in "Donations Appreciated." The stories you wrote were very punny! (pun intended) As always, I loved your advertisements and political statements! The letter's page was very nice to see too! My only misgiving was the way you mailed Comet Tales. Since you placed the fanzine in a paper sleeve instead of an envelope, the machines at the Postal Service feel the need to rip the edges of the fanzine and the paper wrapper. It's not your fault, but I know how the machines work at the Postal Service. But other than a few tiny rips on the covers, this issue was a fantastic trip down memory lane while creating more new, wonderful memories for me to enjoy! Thanks for the memories! And I hope Larry Nibert is doing well! I would love to see some new work from him in future issues! I hope you keep publishing as your time permits! Great work, Jim! George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed Sep 17 09:22:04 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91697 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2003 16:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2003 16:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2003 16:22:04 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.172] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2003 16:22:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:22:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: St Louis Small Press and Comic Art Show Sept. 27 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 177 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 65.160.251.201 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Hi, Is anyone coming to St Louis for this show? If so, I'll be there and would love to say "hi" and give you a free copy of the CF Comics' Ashcan. Drop me a line! Tim Temmel From tazwert@yahoo.com Thu Sep 18 13:55:20 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85982 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2003 20:55:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2003 20:55:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2003 20:55:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.112] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2003 20:55:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:55:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vote for Your Favorite Current Mini-Series Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 128 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Paul Ewert" X-Originating-IP: 12.104.244.36 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert Vote for your favorite current mini-series at MNCBA.com. (http://www.mncba.com/) It's right there on the front page. .... From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Sep 22 11:08:31 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12469 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2003 18:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2003 18:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2003 18:08:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.248] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2003 18:08:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:08:12 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Membership Drive Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2761 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.137 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello out there! I haven't been around making any posting about the=20 Small Press Association in a while, so I thought it was high time I=20 took some time and did, so I don't get too far out of touch with the=20 Yahoo World. There's still a few groups I keep active in, but I have=20 been limiting most of my time to matters dealing with the Small=20 Press Association. We've been making great strides in our goals,=20 including the printing serivice, and the distribution system for=20 small press. We cover publishing, Animation, and expanded our Music=20 coverage, and even have some Indy Film coverage going now. If you=20 don't know much about the SPA, go here to see what we're all about:=20 www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA We're starting a membership drive, and I thought I'd give even non- members a chance to get in on it. Our goal is to top 1,000 members=20 by years end (we're at 618!), so we've started a contest. Here's the=20 details:=20 We're going to have a giveaway contest, and I'm going to be the one=20 giving things away. What am I giving away? Let's call them Obscurity=20 Bucks. How do YOU get Obscurity Bucks? You get them by getting=20 people to sign up at the SPA Forum. For each person that you get to=20 sign up on the forum and put in the FAVORITE QUOTE box: "[Your=20 username] sent me" ((If YOU don't have a username yet, go HERE:=20 www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Forum.asp to get yours, before=20 starting to tell people about the SPA, and please send people to=20 that URL so they have the option to choose between the Dial-up or=20 Broadband options)) you will receive ONE OU BUCK. I will keep a=20 running tally of OU bucks as they add up. We will keep this tally=20 going through the end of the year, and you will be able to spend=20 your earned OU BUCKS in 2004 anytime you wish. You can use it for a=20 subscription; you can use it for advertising, or a combination of=20 both. We will report the standings each week in the Weekly Kick=20 Start e-mail (For members only). At the end of the year, whoever has=20 the most OU BUCKS will win the Grand Prize: A lifetime subscription=20 to all Dimestore publications =96 no matter what or how much we=20 publish, you'll be sent a copy as long as we keep a valid mailing=20 address for you. First runner up will be given a lifetime=20 subscription to Obscurity Unlimited. We will know, by the way, if=20 you are signing up multiple accounts, so please refrain from that=85 this contest is for the building of the group. Anyone caught with=20 multiple accounts will have those accounts locked. Let's keep this=20 on the up and up, so that it really does good things for the group. Ok, if anyone has any questions, you can e-mail me at=20 Ian@dimestoreproductions.com or I'll try to make it back to all the=20 groups and answer them... Ian Shires From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sun Sep 28 17:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70335 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2003 00:26:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2003 00:26:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2003 00:26:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: stevekeeter@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.177] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2003 00:26:19 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15760 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2003 16:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2003 16:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.91) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2003 16:10:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2003 16:10:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:10:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #10 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1624 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "stevekeeter" X-Originating-IP: 65.137.72.141 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 29 Sep 2003 00:26:16 -0000 COMET TALES #10 is an amazing comic! I wrote a review of this book for Ian Shire's OU zine and website, so that should appear soon. But... whew!-- Jim Pack is definitely back with a vengeance! --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, KINGGEO3@a... wrote: > Great new issue of Comet Tales, Jim! I finally got off of my but and caught > up on my reading last weekend! I was totally floored by this newest > installment from Rocket Graphics! It was so nice to see The Martian Cat Chronicles > again! Wow! The nostalgia is thick in this one! The color was very spooky in > "Donations Appreciated." The stories you wrote were very punny! (pun intended) > As always, I loved your advertisements and political statements! The > letter's page was very nice to see too! My only misgiving was the way you mailed > Comet Tales. Since you placed the fanzine in a paper sleeve instead of an > envelope, the machines at the Postal Service feel the need to rip the edges of the > fanzine and the paper wrapper. It's not your fault, but I know how the > machines work at the Postal Service. But other than a few tiny rips on the covers, > this issue was a fantastic trip down memory lane while creating more new, > wonderful memories for me to enjoy! Thanks for the memories! And I hope Larry > Nibert is doing well! I would love to see some new work from him in future > issues! I hope you keep publishing as your time permits! Great work, Jim! > > George Lane > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From KINGGEO3@aol.com Sun Sep 28 18:34:47 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84283 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2003 01:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2003 01:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2003 01:34:46 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.19e.1a8da8f9 (4238) for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19e.1a8da8f9.2ca8e630@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:34:40 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #10 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amen to that, Skeeter! Jim doesn't look like he's missed a beat in almost thirty years! George [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Thu Oct 02 08:02:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35043 invoked by uid 7800); 2 Oct 2003 15:02:03 -0000 Date: 2 Oct 2003 15:02:03 -0000 Message-ID: <1065106923.39.35041.m20@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - FallCon 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. FallCon 2003 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2003 Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) FallCon 2003 Since 1988, Minnesota's Premier Comic Book Convention. Education Building - MN State Fairgrounds. 1372 Cosgrove Ave St. Paul, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Thu Oct 02 08:30:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93493 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 15:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2003 15:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.88) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 15:30:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.143] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2003 15:30:35 -0000 X-Sender: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50818 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 15:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2003 15:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9404.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.110) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 15:09:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20031002150905.2158.qmail@web9404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.51.2.157] by web9404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:09:05 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1065106923.39.35041.m20@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Richard Croxton X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=100925689 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 02 Oct 2003 15:30:34 -0000 Hello, My name is Ric Croxton and i am a new member here. I recently recieved a copy of "The Illlustrated Comic Collectors Handbook Vol. 3". Were the first 2 issues similar? How many issues did it run? Thanks in advance for any help. Ric ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rics_Comics/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Steve_Canyon/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Terry_Lee/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Comic_Paper/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mighty_Crusaders/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Oct 02 11:47:11 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12260 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 18:47:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2003 18:47:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 18:47:10 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.1de.1051333d (4380) for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1de.1051333d.2cadcc9f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:46:55 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/03 8:32:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rjcroxton1@yahoo.com writes: > My name is Ric Croxton and i am a new member here. I > recently recieved a copy of "The Illlustrated Comic > Collectors Handbook Vol. 3". Were the first 2 issues > similar? How many issues did it run? Thanks in advance > There were four. Vol. One was mimeo. Vol. 2 & 3 were phoro offset printing with color covers, as was vol. 4 (but with a black and white cover), and vol. 4 instead of being illustrated by Ray Miller was illustrated by Don Newton. There was apparently a large print run and Vol. 2 & 3 as I still have copies in stock, but vol. 4 went out of print rather quickly after it was published about 30 years ago so I only have my own copy of that one.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Thu Oct 02 13:32:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30821 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 20:32:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2003 20:32:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 20:32:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.173] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2003 20:32:25 -0000 X-Sender: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72638 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 19:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2003 19:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.22) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 19:17:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20031002191719.3204.qmail@web9406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.51.2.157] by web9406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:17:19 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1de.1051333d.2cadcc9f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Richard Croxton X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=100925689 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 02 Oct 2003 20:32:21 -0000 --- Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/2/03 8:32:09 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > rjcroxton1@yahoo.com writes: > > > > My name is Ric Croxton and i am a new member here. > I > > recently recieved a copy of "The Illlustrated > Comic > > Collectors Handbook Vol. 3". Were the first 2 > issues > > similar? How many issues did it run? Thanks in > advance > > > > There were four. Vol. One was mimeo. Vol. 2 & 3 were > phoro offset printing > with color covers, as was vol. 4 (but with a black > and white cover), and vol. 4 > instead of being illustrated by Ray Miller was > illustrated by Don Newton. > There was apparently a large print run and Vol. 2 & > 3 as I still have copies in > stock, but vol. 4 went out of print rather quickly > after it was published about > 30 years ago so I only have my own copy of that > one.--James Van Hise > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Thanks, do you have scans of the covers? ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rics_Comics/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Steve_Canyon/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Terry_Lee/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Comic_Paper/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mighty_Crusaders/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Fri Oct 03 08:02:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48645 invoked by uid 7800); 3 Oct 2003 15:02:37 -0000 Date: 3 Oct 2003 15:02:37 -0000 Message-ID: <1065193357.22.48644.m11@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - FallCon 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. FallCon 2003 Date: Sunday, October 5, 2003 Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) FallCon 2003 Since 1988, Minnesota's Premier Comic Book Convention. Education Building - MN State Fairgrounds. 1372 Cosgrove Ave St. Paul, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From KINGGEO3@aol.com Fri Oct 03 08:54:48 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 78151 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 15:54:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2003 15:54:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 15:54:47 -0000 Received: from KINGGEO3@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.6f.3d1165fb (3842) for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f.3d1165fb.2caef5bc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:54:36 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: KINGGEO3@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=35606107 X-Yahoo-Profile: kinggeoiii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Way to go, James! I knew if anyone could answer Ric's question, it would be you! BTW, welcome Ric! George Lane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Fri Oct 03 18:03:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97968 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2003 01:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2003 01:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.104) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2003 01:03:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2003 01:03:24 -0000 X-Sender: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9425 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 16:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2003 16:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9406.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.22) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 16:09:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20031003160948.34613.qmail@web9406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.51.2.157] by web9406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:09:47 PDT Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <6f.3d1165fb.2caef5bc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Richard Croxton X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=100925689 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 04 Oct 2003 01:03:23 -0000 --- KINGGEO3@aol.com wrote: > Way to go, James! I knew if anyone could answer > Ric's question, it would be > you! BTW, welcome Ric! > > George Lane > > Thanks for the help and the welcome. i was able to find a copy of Illustrated Comic Collector's Handbook #2 and a lead on #1. This series has been very helpful in finding obscure Golden Age heroes. Maybe someday a new series similar can be done. Ric ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rics_Comics/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Steve_Canyon/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Terry_Lee/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Comic_Paper/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mighty_Crusaders/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Fri Oct 03 20:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8789 invoked by uid 7800); 4 Oct 2003 03:02:05 -0000 Date: 4 Oct 2003 03:02:05 -0000 Message-ID: <1065236525.24.8788.m5@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - FallCon 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. FallCon 2003 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2003 Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) FallCon 2003 Since 1988, Minnesota's Premier Comic Book Convention. Education Building - MN State Fairgrounds. 1372 Cosgrove Ave St. Paul, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sat Oct 04 12:57:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30548 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:57:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #11 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 443 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.35.202 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Hey everyone! Thanx for the kind words some of you had to say about my last two zines. Well, I've still got the bug, and CT#11 should be ready by year's end. So, anyone who isn't already on the band wagon needs to send me a dollar for the postage. (Everyone who has already received a copy of the previous two issues, will receive it free.) Thanx again and watch those mailboxes. More weird stuff is coming your way before 2003 is over. From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sat Oct 04 20:02:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35559 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Oct 2003 03:02:44 -0000 Date: 5 Oct 2003 03:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <1065322964.22.35558.m18@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - FallCon 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. FallCon 2003 Date: Sunday, October 5, 2003 Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) FallCon 2003 Since 1988, Minnesota's Premier Comic Book Convention. Education Building - MN State Fairgrounds. 1372 Cosgrove Ave St. Paul, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From jim.crack@verizon.net Sun Oct 05 07:44:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21697 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2003 14:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Oct 2003 14:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2003 14:44:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jim.crack@verizon.net Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2003 14:44:33 -0000 X-Sender: jim.crack@verizon.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34994 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2003 12:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Oct 2003 12:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out003.verizon.net) (206.46.170.103) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2003 12:47:43 -0000 Received: from [4.34.216.46] by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20031005124743.SZHO8791.out003.verizon.net@[4.34.216.46]> for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:47:43 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 05:47:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #11 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [4.34.216.46] at Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:47:43 -0500 From: "jim.crack" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=128869880 X-Yahoo-Profile: bangxxxbang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 05 Oct 2003 14:44:33 -0000 Hi. Where do I send the dollar? All the comments on Comet Tales #10 have made me very curious about your endeavor. Thanks, Peter on 10/4/03 11:57 AM, thecomicist at thecomicist@yahoo.com wrote: Hey everyone! Thanx for the kind words some of you had to say about my last two zines. Well, I've still got the bug, and CT#11 should be ready by year's end. So, anyone who isn't already on the band wagon needs to send me a dollar for the postage. (Everyone who has already received a copy of the previous two issues, will receive it free.) Thanx again and watch those mailboxes. More weird stuff is coming your way before 2003 is over. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Oct 05 15:12:26 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31380 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m01.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.4) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.19c.1ad90bd2 (4584) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19c.1ad90bd2.2cb1f13d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:12:13 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] New Member To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/03 6:05:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rjcroxton1@yahoo.com writes: > Thanks for the help and the welcome. i was able to > find a copy of Illustrated Comic Collector's Handbook > #2 and a lead on #1. This series has been very helpful > in finding obscure Golden Age heroes. Maybe someday a > Like I said, I have copies of volumes 2 & 3 for sale. Both are on ebay right now with scans of the front covers. If anyone needs a photocopy of #4 I'll do one for $10.00 postpaid. Contact me off list at Jimvanhise@aol.com. eBay Listing: COMIC COLLECTOR'S HANDBOOK #2 fanzine, 1966 (Item #2195448235) eBay Listing: COMIC COLLECTOR'S HANDBOOK #3 fanzine, 1968 (Item #2195449770) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rjcroxton1@yahoo.com Mon Oct 06 07:19:40 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: rjcroxton1@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49812 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2003 14:19:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2003 14:19:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9404.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.110) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2003 14:19:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20031006141939.86794.qmail@web9404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.51.2.157] by web9404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:19:39 PDT Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #11 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Richard Croxton X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=100925689 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 --- thecomicist wrote: > Hey everyone! Thanx for the kind words some of you > had to say about > my last > two zines. Well, I've still got the bug, and CT#11 > should be ready by > year's > end. So, anyone who isn't already on the band wagon > needs to send me > a > dollar for the postage. (Everyone who has already > received a copy of > the > previous two issues, will receive it free.) Thanx > again and watch > those > mailboxes. More weird stuff is coming your way > before 2003 is over. > > Where do I send my money? Ric ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rics_Comics/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Steve_Canyon/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Terry_Lee/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Comic_Paper/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mighty_Crusaders/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com From thecomicist@yahoo.com Mon Oct 06 15:28:32 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32979 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2003 22:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2003 22:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2003 22:28:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.132] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2003 22:28:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:28:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #11 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 535 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.41.107 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Anyone interested in receiving Comet Tales #11 needs to drop me a line at thecomicist@yahoo.com and I will send you my mailing address. It'll cost a hard earned buck and then, after that, anything that comes sliming out of my dying brain will come your way until I run out of things to draw or say. Thanks for the interest! This small press stuff is a hoot when you're not in it for the money. I think Comet Tales #11 will be out in November. Well...I dunno...Aw Heck, it'll be out sometime before the end of the year. Howzzat? From userobject@aol.com Sat Oct 18 23:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37739 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2003 06:28:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2003 06:28:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.103) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2003 06:28:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: userobject@aol.com Received: from [66.218.67.191] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2003 06:28:26 -0000 X-Sender: userobject@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95264 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2003 03:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2003 03:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2003 03:58:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2003 03:58:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:58:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wanted - The Comic Reader Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 181 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "pzolli" X-Originating-IP: 24.191.67.60 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98160824 X-Yahoo-Profile: pzolli X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 19 Oct 2003 06:28:26 -0000 Hello Everyone - I am looking for issues 109 thru 121 of the Comic Reader (Street Enterprises). If you have any copies, please contact me. Condition not important. Thanks Phil From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Tue Oct 21 12:27:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3084 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2003 19:27:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Oct 2003 19:27:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2003 19:27:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.140] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2003 19:27:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:26:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: CF Comics Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 177 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 65.160.251.200 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Check out our CF Comics zines online and place an order...100% of all proceeds benefit the Cystic Fibrosis Foudation. Thanks! - Tim http://community.webtv.net/JCXtra/CFComics From comiclover@hotmail.com Wed Oct 22 23:34:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9243 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: comiclover@hotmail.com Received: from [66.218.67.182] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0000 X-Sender: comiclover@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94566 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2003 17:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Oct 2003 17:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2003 17:17:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.112] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2003 17:17:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:17:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: PDAs & Comic collecting Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 838 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "starrats123" X-Originating-IP: 161.226.4.6 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1107226 X-Yahoo-Profile: starrats123 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 23 Oct 2003 06:33:59 -0000 I am normally not a writer as such but I need information from book & comics collectors out there. For years, I have been carrying two small notebooks fills with comics, magazines & hard cover books that I been searching for. Here lately I have been running out of room & can not carry a third one as well. I was thinking of getting a Palm pilot or Pocket PC to keep all my wants in but they ae so costly, I need to know what kind would be the best for comic collecting. If anybody has a PDA, please let me know if I should get a PALM or a Pocket PC, should it have 8MB, 16MB, or more, is a Tungsten C or a SONY Clie PEG-SJ20 fit my needs, etc. Please let me know. Sincerely, Efraim V. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Oct 23 11:58:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29828 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2003 18:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2003 18:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2003 18:58:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.114] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2003 18:58:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:58:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Printing Service Expanding! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1371 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hey folks! SPA on the move again, so if you're one of those out there that thinks the Dimestore service is just for Full Size Comic/1,000+ print runs, time's coming to think again! We're putting up right now, our Digest Size rates! Yes, that's right, with print runs as low as 25 copies! This is not a POD service, and we are working hard to keep per copy costs that YOU will be able to use to resell your publications without losing your shirt doing so. See this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/Digest.asp The charts are only about half done, and there's a bunch of options that will be added, but it's enough to get you started and thinking! We will be adding Low-Run Graphic Novel and Comic Book options soon also, as well as hard back book options! While you're there at the site, remember to USE the service, you need to be a member of the SPA Forum, so if you're not, take the 2 minutes it takes to register, you'll find the link at the upper right of the page. Your feedback is welcome! The Service is designed with YOU, the small presser/DIY/Zinester, in mind, and we want it to be what you are looking for...so your feedback and comments are appreciated and will be responded to. Write to Ian@dimestoreproductions.com, or I'll try to keep up with all the places I post this message too. Long live the Small Press! Ian Shires From dc4mec@yahoo.com Mon Oct 27 18:53:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16445 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 02:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: dc4mec@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:30 -0000 X-Sender: dc4mec@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24177 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2003 20:02:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2003 20:02:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2003 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2003 20:02:40 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:02:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rich Bucker's Intrigue Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 207 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "dc4mec" X-Originating-IP: 216.78.230.152 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=163565228 X-Yahoo-Profile: dc4mec X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:29 -0000 I'm trying to locate Intrigue #1, pubbed by Rich Buckler in the mid-1960s. Offset front cover, interiors and back cover are mimeo. Also, trying to find RBCC #32. Can anyone out there help? THANKS! -- Jim From dc4mec@yahoo.com Mon Oct 27 18:53:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10162 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 02:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: dc4mec@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.115] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:35 -0000 X-Sender: dc4mec@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52745 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2003 22:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2003 22:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web11904.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.188) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2003 22:05:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20031027220546.21325.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.78.230.101] by web11904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:05:46 PST Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:05:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Rich Buckler Fanzine To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jim Flanagan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=163565228 X-Yahoo-Profile: dc4mec X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 28 Oct 2003 02:53:35 -0000 Hi. I'm a new member and am hoping someone out there can help a fellow fan and collector. I'm trying to locate a copy of Intrigue #1, pubbed by Rich Buckler in the mid-1960s. It had a photo-offset front cover, with interiors and back page in mimeo. Does anyone know where I can find one? I've run ads, looked on eBay, the whole bit...and have struck out all the way around. It's a very nostalgic want for me, so any assist anyone can give would be very much appreciated. Does anyone know if there was ever a second issue? Also trying to find RBCC #32. Has anyone ever tried to determine an estimate of the number existing copies of any particular zine? Like Star-Studded #1 or Alter-Ego #1? I'm curious as to how many copies actually have survived the years and how rare (or not) they really are. I have no idea how to go about doing something like that, but maybe someone out there has some ideas. Glad to be onboard. Jim (dc4mec@yahoo.com) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Oct 29 09:57:32 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22202 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2003 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2003 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.88) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 17:57:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2003 17:57:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:57:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: SPA Extra Mile Report Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1541 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 I must say, printing comics has to be the BEST job in the world. Better yet, is being able to help publishers save $$, increasing their chances of survival, while at the SAME TIME, bringing those comics to the hands of people that will enjoy the work. It's the absolute joy of the Small Press Association. I wanted to take a moment and let people know we've got a new page up at Dimestore, which shows off all the great things we've printed so far, and will continue to be added to as we print more and more great Independent Comics, Graphic Novels, Digests, and more. Check out this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/SPAPrinted.asp you may be surprised at what you see! While I'm here, I should mention that response to our Digest Printing service has been fantastic, HOWEVER...a last-minute negotiation has made our deals EVEN BETTER THAN THEY WERE. If you looked over our information once, look over it again, we're changing the numbers (in-progress) and adding additional services that will blow your mind. Like what? Try this: We are going to have a service that will allow you to provide addresses with your order, and we will have a copy of your publication shrink wrapped, addressed, and mailed to your list! Imagine the time savings! Cost of that? between 8 and 15 cents per copy to be mailed, depending on the size of the publication. Stop at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/Printing/Digest.asp to see where we're going with things. Get in touch! the SPA is here for you. Ian Shires From tazwert@yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 11:43:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tazwert@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66629 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 19:43:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2003 19:43:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 19:43:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.134] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2003 19:43:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:43:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vote for you favorite team. Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 94 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.78 From: "Paul Ewert" X-Originating-IP: 12.104.244.36 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=10079700 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert What is your favorite super team? Vote now at www.mncba.com Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. From jwasserman@yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 19:57:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 82846 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 03:57:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2003 03:57:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.103) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 03:57:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jwasserman@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2003 03:57:38 -0000 X-Sender: jwasserman@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25252 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2003 19:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2003 19:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2003 19:03:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2003 19:03:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:03:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Jach Spake! Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 195 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.86 From: "jwasserman" X-Originating-IP: 68.38.65.75 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=107079213 X-Yahoo-Profile: jwasserman X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 29 Nov 2003 03:57:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.103 My old column for Comic Fandom Monthly and Fantastic Fanzine and my old apa-zine for CAPA-alpha continues on-line at my new Jach Spake! website found at: http://home.comcast.net/~jhw53/ -JHW From thecomicist@yahoo.com Fri Dec 05 14:13:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 99656 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2003 22:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2003 22:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2003 22:13:13 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.134] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2003 22:13:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:13:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comet Tales #11 Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 834 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.84 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.47.110 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Comet Tales #11 is done and in the mail. It's a special Propaganda issue starring my newest super-hero called "Major Revenge". Depending on the mail, it should arrive within the next week or so. (sigh.... snail mail). If you don't recieve it, it's because you haven't sent me your sweat stained, crumpled, hard-earned buck to be placed on the mailing list. After that, all subsequent issues are sent to you FREE. (Don't ask... I have my reasons). Full color cover with a full color "Another Incident at the Bar" comic for all you Martian Cat lovers. If you want to be on the mailing list for future issues, send your buck to Rocket Graphics, 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, OH 45039. Better hurry cuz I'm gonna regain my senses and cut this mailing list thing off because it's reaching the point where I can't afford it anymore. From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Dec 09 10:49:58 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 62460 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 18:49:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Dec 2003 18:49:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.tek-industries.com) (204.77.185.1) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 18:49:57 -0000 Received: from [172.21.21.189] (wsip-68-96-24-107.om.om.cox.net [68.96.24.107]) by www.tek-industries.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id hB9InORH024520; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:49:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:49:22 -0600 To: "GCD Chat List" Subject: Fwd: $5000 Reward Cc: timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, wood-l@yahoogroups.com, charlton-l@yahoogroups.com, eccomics@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Mile High Comics Mailing List , comiclink-news-owner@comiclink.com, "Scoop" , "Terry O'Neill" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 204.77.185.1 From: Robert Beerbohm X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Please pass this information onwards to other lists: >Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:46:50 -0600 >From: "Friendly Frank's Comic Cavern" >Reply-To: frank@friendlyfranks.com >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >To: beerbohm@teknetwork.com >Subject: $5000 Reward >Status:=20=20 > >$50,000 Worth of High End Comics Stolen > >At 9:30AM Sunday December 7 the alarm at Friendly Frank's Comic >Cavern (FFCC) was tripped and $50,000 worth of Platinum, Golden, and >Silver Age comics were stolen. Unlike the Nov. 2001 and the >Sept. 2003 robberies which netted the crooks about $10,000 worth of >merchandise each, this time there is a near complete list of what was >taken. "Many of the books that were taken this time are virtually one >of a kind items" said owner Frank Mangiaracina. "We'd just advertised >many of these books in a year end inventory sale in Comics Buyers >Guide". FFCC is offering a $5000 reward for information leading >to the arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible and return >of the books. > >Highlights of the missing items include Batman 12, 15, 18, 25-26, 30, >38-39; Challengers of the Unknown 1; Green Lantern (2nd series) 1, three >copies of Justice League 1; Showcase 4, 14 -15, 18 (#14 is signed on the >cover by Carmine Infantino); All Winners #1, Capt. America 14; Capt. >Marvel Adventures 51 (with two covers); Daring Mystery 6 (1st Marvel >Boy); Green Mask 1; Human Torch 4, 7; MAD 2, 10, 12; Marvel Mystery 17, >66 (with xerox centerfold); Mary Marvel 1; Phantom Lady 15; >Shield-Wizard 1, 8; Strange Worlds 2-3; Suspense Comics 9 (LB Cole >eyeball cover); Weird Comics 1 (Lou Fine cover); Young Allies 1; Star >Trek 1-2 (2 copies each). > >A (near) complete list of the books and conditions are attached. If >you have information to report please contact Frank Mangiaracina or Joe >Green at (816) 746-4569 or robbery@friendlyfranks.com or Detective Rund > of the Kansas City Police at (916) 437-6224. Your help in >disseminating this message is appreciated. Friendly Frank's Comic >Cavern is located at 5404 NW 64th St, Kansas City, MO 64151. 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Check out the new Overstreet #33 for my in-depth history of comics work dating to back to 1795 co-written with Doug Wheeler and Richard Olson **************FOR SALE AND TRADE****************** **Lots of Vintage Comic Books, Pulps, BLBs etc**** **North America people ask me for your Free Copy** ************************************************** Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org ************************************************** Moderator: Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group (Co-Moderator: Leonardo De S=E1) Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips at: http://www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/PlatPics Most all roads seem to lead back to Rudolphe T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.=20 - From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense --Mark Twain From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Dec 18 06:26:34 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3184 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2003 14:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2003 14:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta10.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.202) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2003 14:26:32 -0000 Received: from DIMESTORE1 ([68.169.118.31]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031218142631.LGFW25110.mta10.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:26:31 -0500 To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:26:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.168.78.202 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: New Small Press Reviews Posted! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Small Press Reviews Posted! Hey folks, We've got a surprise in store for you, as I just finished settin= g up the NEW review section...which is now up in The Guide section of the Dimestore site. This new review section won't LOOK much different, but it i= s completely database driven now, and all pages are set up to display dynamically out of the database. These reviews are from the last issue of Obscurity Unlimited, which is already sold out! You can make sure you get the first issue of our new magazine, The Guide to Self Published Periodicals, by going to this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/ObscurityMag.asp (Th= e rates on this page will be changing in the new year, and as the site revamp continues to take hold in the Dimestore site. So lock in a subscription while the rates are still this low!) Now, with no further ado, here is the new review section URL: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Guide/Reviews/index.asp Remember, this is just a pre-view, and the final site revamp is going to involve getting rid of that floating menu, and other changes which will make Dimestore an easier place to visit. There are further refinements to make in the review section also, but we didn=92t want to wait any longer to get these out. In = the future, updating the review sections will be as easy as adding the books to the database, and pointing the review section to look for the next issue, the pages will dynamically update=85which will save me about 3 days a month= of setting up pages as I was doing. Let me know what you think, and keep an ey= e on Dimestore, more developments coming soon! Ian Shires [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Wed Dec 24 19:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6337 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2003 03:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Dec 2003 03:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2003 03:24:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sparkmang@hotmail.com Received: from [66.218.66.122] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2003 03:24:56 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81124 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2003 00:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Dec 2003 00:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2003 00:22:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2003 00:22:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:22:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 155 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 From: "GUY E. SPARKMAN" X-Originating-IP: 67.201.169.157 Subject: new to the group X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449 X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 25 Dec 2003 03:24:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.74 Hi to all i am new to this group and would like to wish all a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS CAPT'N G From nightray2002@yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 08:03:25 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56405 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 16:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2004 16:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 16:03:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nightray2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.169] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2004 16:03:18 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25094 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 06:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2004 06:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 06:20:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2004 06:20:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:20:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 415 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.93 From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 68.236.32.17 Subject: ScriptGraphics is on the move again! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 20 Jan 2004 16:03:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.73 Hello my fellow creators. New stuff is up at the ScriptGraphics site and it's even more intuitive then before. There's commentary, three more installments of the Magnicore comicstrip, and a heaping helping of things that are being worked on at ScriptGraphics right now. I'm not going to give any of it away here, but do stop by the site. A fun time will be had by all. Darrell Goza http://home.earthlink.net/~goza1 From nova64@mchsi.com Tue Jan 20 08:04:27 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61640 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 16:04:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2004 16:04:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 16:04:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nova64@mchsi.com Received: from [66.218.67.158] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2004 16:03:01 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90836 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 02:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2004 02:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.99) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 02:44:07 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2004 02:44:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:44:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 147 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.99 From: "Doug" X-Originating-IP: 12.217.209.102 Subject: Super Adventures X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 20 Jan 2004 16:02:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.69 Hi, everyone! I was wondering if anyone had any issues of Super Adventures for sale? If so, please e-mail me at nova64@mchsi.com Thanks!! Doug From cybertoothtygre@yahoo.com Wed Jan 28 14:22:43 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89002 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2004 22:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2004 22:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.106) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2004 22:22:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: cybertoothtygre@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2004 22:21:36 -0000 X-Sender: cybertoothtygre@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 80774 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2004 18:29:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2004 18:29:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2004 18:29:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2004 18:28:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:28:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2674 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.69 From: cybertoothtygre@yahoo.com X-Originating-IP: 207.189.151.55 Subject: Fandom 1966-1971 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93829023 X-Yahoo-Profile: cybertoothtygre X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 28 Jan 2004 22:21:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.106 Roaming the web, nostalgically looking for my past, I came across this group. I'm from Kansas City Missouri. I was a very minor player in fandom during the late 60s. I became active in fandom through a correspondence with Wayne and Sherman Howard. They produced a fanzine the title of which I cannot remember. I think they lived in Cleveland. I've lost touch with them, but Wayne went on to do some professional work in the 1970s. I then became involved with the Texas boys -- Larry Herndon and Mark Lamberti. I still have the two issues of HUH? that I contributed to -- cover art and a text story of my super hero "The Zombie." Larry asked me to ink a graphic story for "Star Studded Comics." I thought I still had that issue, but I don't (I have one issue of SSC with a George Metzger graphic story). I don't remember the artist whose pencils I inked (Jim Shooter?) and I remember I inked one panel with a wash -- which taught me the hard way about halftone print reproduction because it was printed as one big blob. If anyone can tell me the issue that my inking stint appeared I'd appreciate it. I'd also be interested in buying a copy of that issue. I went down to Dallas for the convention there. Highlights were an authorgraph from Fritz Lieber I still have, telling the poor dude with the Vulcan ears that the tv show was cancelled and he should just get over it, and the "old" guy who walked in just as the con was ending and asking me if I wanted to buy his box of comics. I was 16 and I had no money left, so I pointed to Larry and his mom. Larry bought a box full of EC Comics for about 50 cents apiece... My last appearances in fandom was in "Mount to the Stars" edited by Gail Sutton. I think he was living in Arizona. My only "Zombie" graphic story was published in the first issue (I cringe when I read it now, but in was only 18 when I did it.) I met fellow Kansas Citian Rich Corben because we both appeared in MTTS #2. I studied graphic design at the Kansas City Art Institute, after I got my BFA I moved to San Francisco in 1974. I tried to sell my last graphic story to Ron Turner at Last Gasp, but ended up selling him my EC collection cheap in order to survive my first months in Frisco. I landed a corporate design job, later ran my own design business, then moved to Oregon where I now design two trade magazines. I've returned to writing fiction and illustrating. Will I go back to graphic stories? Who knows? Anyone who wants to chew the fat, I'll be checking into this borad from time to time. Or email me at cybertoothtygre@yahoo.com enuff from me, Stephen Stanley http://www.courtjesterpress.com From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Jan 29 12:08:10 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85988 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2004 20:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2004 20:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2004 20:07:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2004 20:06:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:06:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1790 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Making Waves in the SPA! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 It's been a while since I made any rounds out amongst the Yahoo Groups, but that doesn't mean the Small Press Association has gone away! We've actually been SWAMPED, ever since we announced that we were changing the name of Obscurity Unlimited to The Guide to Self Published Periodicals. But that's not what I'm here to tell you about. Rather, I'd like you to feast your eye on our updated list of options for our Printing Service. We just added the ability to print Magazine and Digest size publications, at quantities below 1,000 copies, AND Per Copy costs that you can afford, and even hope to break even with. The main info page for the SPA printing service is here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/Printing.asp if you've no idea how we work. For those looking for just the new pages: Digests: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/Digest.asp Magazines: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/Magazine.asp The whole Dimestore/SPA website is about to undergo a huge renovation, to solve some page loading issues, speed issues, and generally make it look a lot better (yes the yellow navigation bar's days are numbered!) We hope to have the majority in place by the time The Guide makes it's big debut, hare in the next couple weeks. You can view an almost-complete cover reproduction (needs some color fixing, and a logo adjustment) here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/TheGuide.asp where, conveniently, you can also order a copy! Well, I'll let you all get back to your regular conversations, and hope you'll check out what's going on in the SPA, we've got even bigger surprises in store for everyone in the months to come! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com From nightray2002@yahoo.com Sat Jan 31 21:20:51 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 72651 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2004 05:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2004 05:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2004 05:20:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nightray2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.249] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2004 05:20:51 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77412 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2004 05:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2004 05:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.79) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2004 05:18:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.186] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2004 05:18:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:18:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 594 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.79 From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 68.236.38.103 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Rocket-Track: 1: 100 ; SFLAG=OPENRELAY ; IPCR=g-w0,n0,g100 ; SERVER=66.218.86.250 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 01 Feb 2004 05:20:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 Haven't been active in the webgroup press recently and thought that since I'm dropping by I should leave you with something to mark my being here. In the files section, in the newly created Goza/ScriptGraphics folder you'll find an image file labeled: Scarlet Witch sketch or WandaWeb.gif. Or you can attempt to cut and paste this rather long URL and be taken right to the page: http://f6.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0IccQNjuihuRJh2ejcDRYahBh4VNRxvIzi7LxnkPw2yAHetMjaszAwWxfzKFK0_wGz9lY1q1jDxVLwZ5iJmH44TrKW01NP1LlLk/ScriptGraphics/Wandaweb.gif Enjoy! Darrell Goza http://home.earthlink.net/~goza1 From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Feb 02 12:22:32 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28863 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2004 20:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2004 20:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2004 20:22:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.162] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2004 20:22:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:22:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1244 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.73 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Small Press Idol! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Dimestore Productions, and the Small Press Association, are proud to sponsor and host the first ever Small Press Idol contest! The Winner will be printed in the first full size comic book sized issue of the re-vamped Mysterious Visions Anthology, with an option for a continuing series based on sales and reaction, as well as a free advertising deal for The Guide. Top Runners Up will receive lesser deals, and ALL people who submit in the first round will be printed in a special "Small Press Idol: The Submissions" book, with the comments from the judges. We're hoping this competition, which will run for 4 rounds, and end in APRIL, will generate some real interest for the creators involved, and we will be vigorously promoting the competition. There will be updates about the competition in articles in The Guide to Self Published Periodicals, and it should be a lot of fun. For all the guidelines, you can access this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Idol/ and it will explain the set-up. Feel free to ask any questions you have, after you've read the guidelines, from the links provided on that page. Help us find and nurture the next Bone, Cerebus, Common Grounds! It could be YOU! Ian Shires From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Feb 03 06:05:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71708 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2004 14:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2004 14:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2004 14:05:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.129] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2004 14:02:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:02:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2645 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.72 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Small Press Idol - on fire! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 We've had a few people asking about the issue of Creators Rights as it pertains to the Small Press Idol competition we are running, so we want to make it clear to everyone where we stand. The overall response and excitement level about this competion has been overwhelming already, and we thank everyone who has taken the time to look at the competition information that is here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Idol/ This is the information that we added to the page today (as well as a couple cool logos submitted by one of our judges): Creators Rights The issue of creators rights is very important to us, so we want to make it clear as to what rights to images and characters are involved in this competition and how Dimestore has always dealt with creators rights. 1. For each image submitted, you are giving Dimestore the North American First Printing Rights for that image. All reprint rights and further use of the image is solely returned to the originator of the image. This means, for each round, where we say the image will appear is the only place the image will appear in print from Dimestore without your express permission. 2. All rights to characters and concepts will remain solely the creators in question. Please make sure that there is a copyright notice: "Characters and concepts (c) 2004 Creators Name" on each image submitted. Each publication Dimestore prints that has artwork from anyone, contains a copyright notice that reads "Entire Contents (c) Dimestore Productions and all artists whose work appears herein as noted. All Rights reserved, reverting back to individual writers and artists upon publication." 3. Dimestore has a long-standing history of helping establish company names and characters. We have been in operation for 18 years, and have an extensive database of who did what when, and are always willing to lend our knowledge to disputes of ownership, and often point out to new publishers if their company name or title already exists. If you are new to copyright and trademark law, please see our How To section for information. Dimestore highly supports creators rights to the control and ownership of their creations, and highly advises your protecting those rights. So we hope that makes everything clear in that area, for anyone out there that was apprehensive about the issue. We hope you'll stop in at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Idol/index.asp and read the rest of the guidelines and set-up for the contest, and let's make this a truly powerful event, that helps the Small Press/ Independent market grow into it's own. Ian Shires From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Feb 04 08:22:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36896 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2004 16:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2004 16:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.104) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2004 16:22:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.143] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2004 16:21:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:21:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1378 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.104 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Small Press Idol - first contestant! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 The Small Press Idol contest is hitting it's stride, as the first contestant has made their submission. You can now see a lot better the shape the contest will take, and we invite you all to visit: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Idol/index.asp to view entries as they are posted now, through the March 15th deadline for round 1 entries. We expect a steady stream of entries from the numerous inquiries and comments we've received so far, so keep an eye on that page, it's sure to explode! You can stop in at our forum section set up for the IDOL contest, if you have further questions about the contest: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=97 We would like to thank everyone who has taken an interest in this contest, and we'll be making announcements weekly in our newsletter. If you would like to make sure that you are kept up to date about the progress of the contest, please send an e-mail to Idol@dimestoreproductions.com requesting to be on the newsletter list! Remember, the deadline for the first round of this contest is March 15th, and all persons who wish to have a chance to move on to the next round need to have their submissions in to us by that date. It's going to be fun, and we're sure to find some great new talent, culminating in what should be a solid anthology full of hot new talent! Ian Shires From nightray2002@yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 08:09:57 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69612 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2004 16:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 16:06:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nightray2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2004 16:04:31 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71668 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.65) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.185] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:30:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 653 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.65 From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 68.163.17.77 Subject: ScriptGraphics biweekly site update - X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 12 Feb 2004 16:04:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.92 The new Magnicore strip is up as well as small press commentary by Fenwick ThaddeusFord and a greeting by K. Lynn Williams of Beatnik Productions. Some new art has been added to the site, replacing older images and we're moving towards color images (which I like). There's also some new information on the upcoming ScriptGraphics projects. And the Mag's archive is designed not to make you start from the first installment (unless you want to) but the page you'll start from has all the strips available, you pick which one you want to read instead of being forced to start from strip 1! As usual, stop by; sit a spell and enjoy yourself. Darrell Goza From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Feb 17 05:20:57 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 62585 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2004 13:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2004 13:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2004 13:20:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.124] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2004 13:20:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:20:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1303 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.71 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Attention Comic Book Publishers! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Special Announcement from Dimestore! We have just released our Full Size Comic Printing numbers for print runs from 100 copies to 1,000. When we first set out to set up the printing service, this was the segment of printing we were most interested in helping publishers find the best prices in. The problem was finding a way to keep the per copy costs low enough that it would be worth buying copies and still be able to resell them at a profit at shows, etc. Our system has been developing for over a year now, as we've had in place the ability to print larger quantities, and have been doing so. We now open up the sub-1,000 option to all, you can see our set-up and numbers here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Forum/FullSizeShort.asp Please feel free to ask us questions, and if you are unfamiliar with how our system works from start to finish, stop in at www.dimestoreproductions.com/Printing for full details on all aspects of our operation. We're set up to bring publishers discount pricing through the group bargaining power of the Small Press Association, and we're not in the printing to make $$ ourselves. Our desire is to allow more publishers to save more $$, and hopefully survive to publish another day. We hope our efforts will do you some good. Ian Shires From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sat Mar 13 12:20:51 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 842 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2004 20:20:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2004 20:20:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.108) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2004 20:20:50 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2004 20:20:50 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:20:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 688 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.108 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.14.185 Subject: Comet Tales #12 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Aww, you guys thought I'd go away, huh? No chance. Been working hard on the new issue of Comet Tales. It features 8 full color pages plus a full color cover. Artists include Larry Nibert, Larry Blake, Myself, and possibly a surprise artist and all the other weird stuff, like the Sci-Fi bedtime stories and bogus ads that makes Comet Tales such a strange comic book. Plans call for it to be debuted at the SPACE con in Columbus, but, as always, you can get one of these mailed to you for a buck. And, then, when you're on the mailing list, you get all the rest of the issues I have the energy to create for free. What a deal! Stay tuned for Comet Tales #13 due out in June, 2004. From jwc33406@hotmail.com Thu Mar 25 17:48:50 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: jwc33406@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7788 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2004 01:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2004 01:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.85) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2004 01:48:50 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2004 01:47:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:47:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 513 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.85 From: "Jim" X-Originating-IP: 66.217.202.88 Subject: Nickel Library #4 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72466883 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam Hi, I've been a member here for a long time but almost never post. I have an important request/want though, and I figured this would be a good place to try to fill it (as well as the other fanzine group). I need a nice copy of Eric Fromm's Nickel Library #4 (not sure what the subject matter/picture was). I have a copy of #1 (Reed Crandall/Dollman art) to trade for it. I also have several other fanzines from the 60's and later available if anyone is interested. looking forward to any replies, Jim From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 26 08:02:34 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 59063 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2004 16:02:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2004 16:02:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.104) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2004 16:02:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.154] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2004 16:00:36 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 59608 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2004 10:52:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2004 10:52:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.50) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2004 10:52:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20040326105206.91704.qmail@web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.19.82.9] by web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:52:06 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:52:06 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.50 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: new member X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 26 Mar 2004 16:00:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.104 I would love to join the comic fanzines club, what, when and how? --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mgilbert@efn.org Fri Mar 26 14:35:01 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95788 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2004 22:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Mar 2004 22:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shaw.efn.org) (207.189.190.22) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2004 22:35:00 -0000 Received: from [216.239.173.23] (dialup-ras1-23.eug.or.uspops.net [216.239.173.23]) by shaw.efn.org (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i2QMYifR010579 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mgilbert@efn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: <1080338121.139.40438.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1080338121.139.40438.m12@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:34:29 -0800 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 207.189.190.22 From: "Michael T. Gilbert" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 425 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 I don't have that issue. But for those curious about the Nickel Library, I reprinted a dozen of them in my "Mr. Monster's Comic Crypt" column in Alter Ego 29 and 30. And that Crandall Doll Man pic graces the cover of the latest issue of Alter Ego, no 34. Best wishes, Michael T. On Mar 26, 2004, at 1:55 PM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > ____________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:47:46 -0000 > From: "Jim" > Subject: Nickel Library #4 > > Hi, > > I've been a member here for a long time but almost never post. I > have an important request/want though, and I figured this would be a > good place to try to fill it (as well as the other fanzine group). > > I need a nice copy of Eric Fromm's Nickel Library #4 (not sure what > the subject matter/picture was). I have a copy of #1 (Reed > Crandall/Dollman art) to trade for it. I also have several other > fanzines from the 60's and later available if anyone is interested. > > looking forward to any replies, > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ From jwc33406@hotmail.com Sat Mar 27 18:08:59 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: jwc33406@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5809 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2004 02:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2004 02:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.101) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2004 02:08:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.248] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2004 02:08:46 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 02:08:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1534 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.101 From: "Jim" X-Originating-IP: 66.217.207.109 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 425 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=72466883 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam Michael, I'm curious, do you know how many were printed. I have #'s 1 - 3, 5- 25. Were there ever any after #25? ~Jim --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T. Gilbert" wrote: > I don't have that issue. But for those curious about the Nickel > Library, I reprinted a dozen of them in my "Mr. Monster's Comic Crypt" > column in Alter Ego 29 and 30. And that Crandall Doll Man pic graces > the cover of the latest issue of Alter Ego, no 34. > > Best wishes, > > Michael T. > > > > On Mar 26, 2004, at 1:55 PM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:47:46 -0000 > > From: "Jim" > > Subject: Nickel Library #4 > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been a member here for a long time but almost never post. I > > have an important request/want though, and I figured this would be a > > good place to try to fill it (as well as the other fanzine group). > > > > I need a nice copy of Eric Fromm's Nickel Library #4 (not sure what > > the subject matter/picture was). I have a copy of #1 (Reed > > Crandall/Dollman art) to trade for it. I also have several other > > fanzines from the 60's and later available if anyone is interested. > > > > looking forward to any replies, > > Jim > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ __ > > _ > > _____________________________________________________________________ __ > > _ From mgilbert@efn.org Sun Mar 28 09:57:48 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert@efn.org X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69172 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2004 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2004 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shaw.efn.org) (207.189.190.22) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2004 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from [64.28.57.18] (dialup-ras21-18.eug.or.uspops.net [64.28.57.18]) by shaw.efn.org (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i2SHvjfR042549 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mgilbert@efn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: <1080491302.143.13509.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1080491302.143.13509.m12@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:57:24 -0800 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 207.189.190.22 From: "Michael T. Gilbert" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 427 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=25975568 X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Jim: I'm told there were 58...and we printed a number of the later ones in my Alter Ego 29 and 30 articles, along with a brief history. There were a number of imitation EC covers by underground artists among the later issues. Best wishes, Michael T. On Mar 28, 2004, at 8:28 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/aSIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Digest Number 425 > From: "Jim" > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 02:08:46 -0000 > From: "Jim" > Subject: Re: Digest Number 425 > > Michael, > > I'm curious, do you know how many were printed. I have #'s 1 - 3, 5- > 25. Were there ever any after #25? > > ~Jim > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T. Gilbert" > wrote: >> I don't have that issue. But for those curious about the Nickel >> Library, I reprinted a dozen of them in my "Mr. Monster's Comic > Crypt" >> column in Alter Ego 29 and 30. And that Crandall Doll Man pic > graces >> the cover of the latest issue of Alter Ego, no 34. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Michael T. >> >> >> >> On Mar 26, 2004, at 1:55 PM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > wrote: >>> ____________________________________________________ >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:47:46 -0000 >>> From: "Jim" >>> Subject: Nickel Library #4 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've been a member here for a long time but almost never post. I >>> have an important request/want though, and I figured this would > be a >>> good place to try to fill it (as well as the other fanzine > group). >>> >>> I need a nice copy of Eric Fromm's Nickel Library #4 (not sure > what >>> the subject matter/picture was). I have a copy of #1 (Reed >>> Crandall/Dollman art) to trade for it. I also have several other >>> fanzines from the 60's and later available if anyone is > interested. >>> >>> looking forward to any replies, >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > __ >>> _ >>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > __ >>> _ > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Sun Mar 28 20:12:03 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92113 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2004 04:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2004 04:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.102) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2004 04:12:02 -0000 Received: from triad.rr.com (gso31-118-226.triad.rr.com [24.31.118.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i2T4Bts1022987 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:11:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:12:18 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1080338121.139.40438.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-Id: <44BB69D2-8137-11D8-B41B-000A95EA537E@triad.rr.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.25.9.102 From: Chris Wallace Subject: Fan of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Hi Jim, Sorry, I have no copies of Nickel Library 4 but am interested in the ones you have available. Please contact me off list with price and list of items. I am working on an article on Sam Grainger and would be especially interested in any fanzines with his art. Thanks. Look forward to hearing from you. Chris cwallace2@triad.rr.com > Hi, > > I've been a member here for a long time but almost never post. I > have an important request/want though, and I figured this would be a > good place to try to fill it (as well as the other fanzine group). > > I need a nice copy of Eric Fromm's Nickel Library #4 (not sure what > the subject matter/picture was). I have a copy of #1 (Reed > Crandall/Dollman art) to trade for it. I also have several other > fanzines from the 60's and later available if anyone is interested. > > looking forward to any replies, > Jim > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Apr 06 06:49:35 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73164 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2004 13:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2004 13:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2004 13:48:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.163] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2004 13:47:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:47:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1302 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.76 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: New Small Press Reviews Posted X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello folks, well, it's here! The Guide to Self Published Periodicals (THE GUIDE) #47 is winging it's way to subscribers and retailers, after making it's big debut at this year's SPACE (Small Press and Alternative Comics Exposition) show. You can read the REVIEWS from this 40 page magazine right now, online! Stop in at the Dimestore Reviews spot: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Guide/Reviews/index.asp and see all the new publications, over 100 of them, all shapes and sizes! Full color cover reproductions of all books reviewed! If you're one of those who like to hold a magazine in hand when you read it, you can get a copy of The Guide #47 mailed right to your house, right now. Stop in at this page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Catalogs/Dimestore/TheGuide.asp - we take paypal! Also, while I have your attention, if you're interested in the Small Press Idol contest that we have been running, the current round's voting is in full swing, and there are over 20 entries vieing to stay in the contest. You can see the current standings, and view all the contestants drawings, in our weekly newsletter. You can view it online right here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Kick/index.asp Any and all feedback is always welcome! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sun Apr 11 08:02:09 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40080 invoked by uid 7800); 11 Apr 2004 15:02:09 -0000 Date: 11 Apr 2004 15:02:09 -0000 Message-ID: <1081695729.14.40079.m24@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - MicroCon 2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. MicroCon 2004 Date: Sunday, April 25, 2004 Time: 10:00AM - 4:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) The One Day Wonder, MicroCon 2004. Maplewood Community Center 2100 White Bear Avenue Maplewood, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Apr 13 07:00:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39506 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 14:00:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2004 14:00:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.99) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 14:00:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2004 13:59:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:59:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1137 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.99 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 What? You haven't heard about Small Press Idol? Round 2 is=20 about to come to a close, but there's still a couple days to view=20 all the contestants INKED images and vote for your favorites to move=20 to Round 3 =96 where we will get to see them Colored and the back- story of the characters explained. 28 contestants are vying for 21=20 slots in Round 3, YOUR VOTE can be the difference of them going on=20 to win the LEAD FEATURE spot in the Anthology, and potential series=20 deal with Dimestore. Interested in seeing the art, and their current=20 vote standings? Well! Click here:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Kick/KickCurr.htm and scroll=20 down just a little bit (you can read the rest of the page too, just=20 letting you know where the list of contestants and links to their=20 images is). Round 2 ends Midnight on the 15th! We'll be starting=20 Round 3 almost immediately after. Your comments on artwork is=20 welcome, and each image has a forum thread about it. Read what=20 others think, add your own comments! Small Press Idol is in YOUR=20 hands! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com From thecomicist@yahoo.com Tue Apr 13 14:42:21 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43565 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 21:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2004 21:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.82) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 21:42:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.165] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2004 21:42:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:42:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 608 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.82 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.41.137 Subject: Comet Tales #12 Invades Mailboxes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Yep... Comet Tales #12 will be in the mail in the next two days! 8 interior color pages by Larry Blake and Larry Nibert plus a 9 page "Major Revenge" yarn in which he kicks some serious terrorist butt, plus a SCI-FI Bedtime Story, Letters, and a bogus ad. It costs a sweaty, stinky, hard-earned buck to get on the mailing list (for all you unintiated ones), and all future issues are free. (Send to Rocket Graphics, 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, OH 45039.) For those favoured few already on the mailing list, watch those mailboxes.... it's coming your way. Criticisms and arguements are always welcome. From larid@dccnet.com Tue Apr 13 21:39:37 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77209 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2004 04:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2004 04:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2004 04:39:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: larid@dccnet.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2004 04:38:36 -0000 X-Sender: larid@dccnet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5792 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 22:22:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2004 22:22:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yoda.dccnet.com) (24.207.1.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 22:22:06 -0000 Received: from potboilerguy (unverified [24.207.11.31]) by dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.6) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:21:15 -0700 Message-ID: <010a01c421a5$abb590e0$1f0bcf18@potboilerguy> To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:21:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.207.1.134 From: "lari davidson" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #12 Invades Mailboxes X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=121792500 X-Yahoo-Profile: duolnar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 14 Apr 2004 04:38:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.72 damn, Jim! i still haven't gotten around to LOCing the last ones you sent! busy is no excuse i know. this wek, i promise..... lari [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 14 09:30:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31012 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.142] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:30:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 701 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.68 From: "smithworldorder" X-Originating-IP: 12.73.40.198 Subject: Fanzines for Sale X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738 X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Please excuse my delurking for a purely commercial reason but after collecting comics and comic-related material for 40 years I've decided to go through the hundreds of boxes I've accumulated and sell off as much of it as I can bare to part with, starting with a lot of the magazines & fanzines. As I go through I am listing the items in ads for CBG, etc. If you would like an advance look via email, contact me offlist at the address above & I will send the lists as they are done. All items are available at set sale, not auction, priced to sell, not to stock, & the first one, featuring about 200 fanzines from the 60s & 70s should be ready in the next 24-48 hours. Thanks, Anthony Smith From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Apr 14 15:20:02 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15980 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2004 22:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2004 22:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2004 22:20:02 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.2.) id r.131.2c864508 (18555) for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <131.2c864508.2daf12f2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:19:30 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5017 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.4 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzines for Sale X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anthony, I'm always ready to buy fanzines from the 60's if the price is right. Let me know. Aaron Caplan In a message dated 4/14/2004 12:36:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net writes: Please excuse my delurking for a purely commercial reason but after collecting comics and comic-related material for 40 years I've decided to go through the hundreds of boxes I've accumulated and sell off as much of it as I can bare to part with, starting with a lot of the magazines & fanzines. As I go through I am listing the items in ads for CBG, etc. If you would like an advance look via email, contact me offlist at the address above & I will send the lists as they are done. All items are available at set sale, not auction, priced to sell, not to stock, & the first one, featuring about 200 fanzines from the 60s & 70s should be ready in the next 24-48 hours. Thanks, Anthony Smith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 15 07:20:32 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 83780 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 14:20:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.69) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.141] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:25 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 78380 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 10:58:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 10:58:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.55) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 10:58:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20040415105839.63770.qmail@web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.74.11.68] by web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:58:39 BST Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:58:39 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.55 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: Re: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.69 So then, I could send you some of my own stuff then? Andy --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 15 07:21:35 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92220 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 14:21:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 14:21:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 14:21:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.147] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:31 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42679 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 11:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 11:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.49) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 11:02:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20040415110140.56378.qmail@web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.74.11.68] by web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:01:40 BST Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:01:40 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.49 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzines for Sale X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 15 Apr 2004 14:20:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.83 count me in:) smithworldorder wrote:Please excuse my delurking for a purely commercial reason but after collecting comics and comic-related material for 40 years I've decided to go through the hundreds of boxes I've accumulated and sell off as much of it as I can bare to part with, starting with a lot of the magazines & fanzines. As I go through I am listing the items in ads for CBG, etc. If you would like an advance look via email, contact me offlist at the address above & I will send the lists as they are done. All items are available at set sale, not auction, priced to sell, not to stock, & the first one, featuring about 200 fanzines from the 60s & 70s should be ready in the next 24-48 hours. Thanks, Anthony Smith --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Apr 15 07:33:13 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26073 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 14:33:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 14:33:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta13.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.44) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 14:33:12 -0000 Received: from DIMESTORE1 ([68.169.118.31]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040415142927.XZPO13425.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:29:27 -0400 To: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:29:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcQi9NCUYx/tXRmEQIO7So/Gw6bLsAAATJpw In-Reply-To: <20040415105839.63770.qmail@web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <20040415142927.XZPO13425.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.168.78.44 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 I do not know what you mean. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com -----Original Message----- From: A DODD [mailto:r2ns@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:59 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! So then, I could send you some of my own stuff then? Andy --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links From tpstewart@aol.com Thu Apr 15 17:26:01 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92153 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2004 00:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2004 00:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2004 00:26:01 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.2.) id r.1a7.225de8a3 (4568); Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a7.225de8a3.2db081fb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:25:31 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 23 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.4 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Cleaning out the SavantCave! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey fellow fans! I'm getting rid of stacks of stuff, including stacks of Comic Book Market Place. Here at: http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm Thanks! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 16 00:45:55 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25726 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2004 07:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2004 07:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.106) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2004 07:45:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.150] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2004 07:45:46 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1526 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2004 15:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2004 15:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.50) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2004 15:28:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20040415152707.92992.qmail@web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.74.11.68] by web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:27:07 BST Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:27:07 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040415142927.XZPO13425.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.50 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: RE: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 16 Apr 2004 07:45:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.106 I would like to offer work in the next competition Ian Shires wrote: I do not know what you mean. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com -----Original Message----- From: A DODD [mailto:r2ns@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:59 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! So then, I could send you some of my own stuff then? Andy --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Apr 16 13:17:36 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3916 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2004 20:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2004 20:17:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta9.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.199) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2004 20:17:35 -0000 Received: from DIMESTORE1 ([68.169.118.31]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040416201724.RATV26615.mta9.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:17:24 -0400 To: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:17:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcQjhvENlLx1O6BFSw+cY/D02qC0kAAaKgCw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040415152707.92992.qmail@web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <20040416201724.RATV26615.mta9.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.168.78.199 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 The next competition will begin just after the superbowl next year, plenty of time to plan something that will knock our socks off. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com -----Original Message----- From: A DODD [mailto:r2ns@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:27 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! I would like to offer work in the next competition Ian Shires wrote: I do not know what you mean. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com -----Original Message----- From: A DODD [mailto:r2ns@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:59 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Small Press Idol - Round 2 needs your votes! So then, I could send you some of my own stuff then? Andy --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Groups Links From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sun Apr 18 08:02:13 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57450 invoked by uid 7800); 18 Apr 2004 15:02:13 -0000 Date: 18 Apr 2004 15:02:13 -0000 Message-ID: <1082300533.13.57449.m22@yahoogroups.com> X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Reminder - MicroCon 2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. MicroCon 2004 Date: Sunday, April 25, 2004 Time: 10:00AM - 4:00PM CDT (GMT-05:00) The One Day Wonder, MicroCon 2004. Maplewood Community Center 2100 White Bear Avenue Maplewood, MN Hotline: 651-770-6828 Website: www.mncba.com From mail@1st-media.com Sun Apr 18 11:26:42 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 58636 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2004 18:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2004 18:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2004 18:26:41 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-84-133-56.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.84.133.56]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3IIQeQ31129; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:26:40 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040418141659.02311ec0@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:25:57 -0400 To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Heroes and Villains from A to Z X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications I try to do some project to raise funds for my son Jerry who is autistic and use a comics related theme. I did use Super-Kid which he liked. As we go forward with projects the name can cause a problem even though his costume or emblem doesn't look like Superman's. We went with another name (No not Spider-Boy) but Dynamic Boy though this was a character in the 40's. What we are working on is Dynamic Boy's Heroes and Villains from A to Z. So if you have any characters that you would like to include in the project let me know. Regards, Aaron Mr. A. 1st Media Comics http://www.1st-media.com/comics From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 08:10:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49831 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 15:10:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Apr 2004 15:10:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 15:10:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2004 15:09:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:09:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 483 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.77 From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 68.164.160.26 Subject: Full Circle Comix X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 After 22 years of absence, Full Circle Comix returns! Jeff Cooke and Kevin Collier (along with Jeff's son, Andy) will soon be releasing Amazing Stories #14 featuring The Whip by Jeff & Andy Cooke and Capt. Head by Kevin Collier. Talk is also under way for a secondary title that will be an open door for other contributors to be included in the FCC line. For more information on Full Circle Comix visit the brand new website at http://community.webtv.net/Jeff_Cooke/FullCircleComix From tpstewart@aol.com Wed Apr 21 01:21:55 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30442 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2004 08:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2004 08:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m14.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.204) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2004 08:21:54 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.2.) id r.1e2.1e577fe0 (24895); Wed, 21 Apr 2004 04:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1e2.1e577fe0.2db788d1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 04:20:33 EDT To: backyardpatrol@yahoogroups.com, captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, mego@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 23 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.204 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: The Lone Savant Rides Again! (not all OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Yo Listers! (Willaim Tell Overture in Background) This Daring and Resourceful Masked Rider of the Internet plains is leading the fight for his many auctions in the early hours! I have a bunch of toys and comics related stuff (24 pounds of Comic Book Marketplace!) ending soon. Very soon, kemosabee! I'm starting up my own home business, selling vintage toys, comics and other stuff on the Mighty eBay (all hail!), so check back every once and awhile so I can stop disrupting the deep conversations that go on here. AWAAAAAYYYYY!! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 21 07:36:08 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39397 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2004 14:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.99) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.157] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:05 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73171 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2004 11:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2004 11:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.54) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2004 11:15:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20040420111504.29916.qmail@web25106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.74.11.68] by web25106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:15:04 BST Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:15:04 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040418141659.02311ec0@www.1st-media.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.54 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: Re: [cbzines] Heroes and Villains from A to Z X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.99 I was very interested to see this letter, very worthwhile and in order to send you anything could you tell me the age group to work on, how old is your boy so that I can suggest the right genre and era Andy Dodd(Cartoonist) Aaron Deutsch wrote: I try to do some project to raise funds for my son Jerry who is autistic and use a comics related theme. I did use Super-Kid which he liked. As we go forward with projects the name can cause a problem even though his costume or emblem doesn't look like Superman's. We went with another name (No not Spider-Boy) but Dynamic Boy though this was a character in the 40's. What we are working on is Dynamic Boy's Heroes and Villains from A to Z. So if you have any characters that you would like to include in the project let me know. Regards, Aaron Mr. A. 1st Media Comics http://www.1st-media.com/comics --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 21 07:37:18 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 72776 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2004 14:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2004 14:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.108) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2004 14:37:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [66.218.67.184] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:12 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94335 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2004 11:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2004 11:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.53) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2004 11:18:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20040420111835.53112.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.74.11.68] by web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:18:35 BST Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:18:35 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 217.12.10.53 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20DODD?= Subject: Re: [cbzines] Full Circle Comix X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096 X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 21 Apr 2004 14:36:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.108 So now that I know that, what would it take to contribute along side you two veterans? Andy Dodd(Cartoonist) tim_tt2 wrote: After 22 years of absence, Full Circle Comix returns! Jeff Cooke and Kevin Collier (along with Jeff's son, Andy) will soon be releasing Amazing Stories #14 featuring The Whip by Jeff & Andy Cooke and Capt. Head by Kevin Collier. Talk is also under way for a secondary title that will be an open door for other contributors to be included in the FCC line. For more information on Full Circle Comix visit the brand new website at http://community.webtv.net/Jeff_Cooke/FullCircleComix --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mail@1st-media.com Sat Apr 24 15:48:34 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98087 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2004 22:48:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2004 22:48:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2004 22:48:33 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-83-194-171.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.194.171]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3OMmWX10816; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:48:32 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040424184009.021da0c0@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:41:43 -0400 To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: List Your Site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications List your comics site or post a message on our message board. http://www.1stcomics.com Regards, Aaron Mr. A. 1st Media Comics http://www.1st-media.com/comics From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed Apr 28 10:02:12 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89171 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2004 17:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2004 17:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2004 17:02:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.179] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2004 16:58:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:58:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040420111835.53112.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1534 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.77 From: "tim_tt2" X-Originating-IP: 68.164.160.26 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Full Circle Comix X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528 X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Hey Andy...I was just passing along info, but I would suggest joining the Full Circle Comics Message board. Once you register and don't get the password right away, then email the Board moderator. Here's the link: http://fullcirclecomix.proboards30.com/ --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, A DODD wrote: > So now that I know that, what would it take to contribute along side you two veterans? > Andy Dodd(Cartoonist) > > tim_tt2 wrote: > After 22 years of absence, Full Circle Comix returns! Jeff Cooke and > Kevin Collier (along with Jeff's son, Andy) will soon be releasing > Amazing Stories #14 featuring The Whip by Jeff & Andy Cooke and Capt. > Head by Kevin Collier. Talk is also under way for a secondary title > that > will be an open door for other contributors to be included in the FCC > line. For more information on Full Circle Comix visit the brand new > website at http://community.webtv.net/Jeff_Cooke/FullCircleComix > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! 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Download Messenger Now > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tpstewart@aol.com Sun May 02 14:19:36 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32797 invoked from network); 2 May 2004 21:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2004 21:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m15.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.205) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2004 21:19:35 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id r.e6.4dba4404 (2519); Sun, 2 May 2004 17:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:18:12 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, captainaction@yahoogroups.com, backyardpatrol@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 23 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.205 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Ot More eBay stuff X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers! Another week of clearing out stuff! I have a bunch of 60s-70s Phantom Stranger comics (including a #1) and a bunch of toys up. I'll be posting more in the next week. Also, wasn't there some Three Investigators fans here? I have a bunch of the books on the listing as well. http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm Thanks! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thecomicist@yahoo.com Mon May 03 13:07:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 93770 invoked from network); 3 May 2004 20:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 May 2004 20:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2004 20:07:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.164] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2004 20:07:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:07:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 289 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.93 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.44.245 Subject: Comet Tales Readers X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Hey! I sent out my rag weeks ago and I haven't gotten much response. If it isn't any good, let me know! My letters column is looking kinda thin. Since I don't make any money off of this thing, letters are my only impetus. Please take few minutes and write down your thoughts. Jim Pack From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue May 04 08:10:54 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 54276 invoked from network); 4 May 2004 15:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2004 15:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.104) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2004 15:10:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.143] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 May 2004 15:08:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 15:08:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2598 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.104 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: SPA Kick Start - big changes! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Join the SPA Kick Start announcement list! All you have to do is=20 send us an e-mail here: SPAKickStart-subscribe@yahoogroups.com=20 In our continuing efforts to build a better independent/small press=20 network, we came up with a weekly newsletter called the Kick Start,=20 which we sent out first to hundreds, then to thousands of people's e- mail inboxes. It was well received by most, and a usefull, powerful=20 tool for keeping people informed on the Small Press Association's=20 efforts to build a distributorship for self publishers. Somehow,=20 someway, our e-mail delivery meathod ended up getting classified as=20 spam by many large mail-host companies all at once. AOL, HotMail,=20 and MSN all started refusing our newsletter with no warning. Even=20 though anyone on the list could have simply unsubscribed, we believe=20 that some people subscribed specifically to be in a position to=20 systematically "report" us=85causing the situation where we have 3000=20 addresses of people who subscribed to the Kick Start, and no way to=20 get it to them. So our solution goes like this: The Kick Start will become an online- only newsletter, and we're going to build a new list to announce=20 when the new issue is posted each week. We're going to do it using,=20 coincidentially, the Yahoo Groups system that the SPA was born in in=20 the first place. Unlike the past however, this SPAKickStart group=20 will be a one-way only e-mail that will contain basically just a=20 quick "the new issue is up" message, and a link to it. It will come=20 out every Monday, and be the only e-mail you will ever get from the=20 list. We think it has the potential to actually, in the long run, increase=20 how many people are reading the Kick Start each week. We know the=20 file size of the Kick Start was sometimes larger than people cared=20 for in their inboxes. So a tiny link message to the web page will=20 hopefully bring in lots of the people that didn't care for that. Our first new Kick Start, in the web page format, will be posted=20 LATER TODAY, and then every Monday after that. So if you have an=20 interest in Small Press Publishing, we hope to see you on the list.=20 We've got the memberlist blocked so no one can "harvest" your e-mail=20 address from the site, and you can keep it hidden from my view too=20 in the sign up process or preferences in there somewhere. Thank you=20 everyone, for your continued interest in the Small Press=20 Association, look for SPA members at conventions, everywhere! To join: SPAKickStart-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com From e@cableone.net Tue May 04 15:05:28 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: e@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1670 invoked from network); 4 May 2004 22:05:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2004 22:05:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2004 22:05:25 -0000 Received: from [69.92.14.35] (unverified [69.92.14.35]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 6303203 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 14:53:53 -0700 Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: e@mail.cableone.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1083615196.135.85712.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1083615196.135.85712.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 16:57:52 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: e@cableone.net Subject: WTD: Cartoonews #1 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=159120051 X-Yahoo-Profile: esc_frm_reality Howdy Been looking for years for a copy of Cartoonews #1. It features an interview with Al Wiseman. Anyone with a copy they are willing to sell, loan, xerox, etc, feel free to email me privately. TIA Lee From graphic_illusion@mindspring.com Fri May 07 15:42:55 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: graphic_illusion@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53038 invoked from network); 7 May 2004 22:42:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2004 22:42:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.86) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2004 22:42:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2004 22:42:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 22:42:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 233 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.86 From: "RG" X-Originating-IP: 24.16.212.138 Subject: Massive ec collection + fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12569485 X-Yahoo-Profile: NinthNebula10 http://graphic-illusion.com/ec-comics1.htm I just put these on ebay too! Recently acquired EC collection... some fanzines...1st print horror comics (EC). Drove em to Seattle from California now I have to scan all the covers.... From punkybluester@yahoo.com Wed May 12 23:24:39 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4057 invoked from network); 13 May 2004 06:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2004 06:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2004 06:24:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: punkybluester@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.144] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2004 06:24:31 -0000 X-Sender: punkybluester@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70584 invoked from network); 12 May 2004 19:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2004 19:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2004 19:51:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2004 19:50:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:50:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 254 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.92 From: "Punky Bluester" X-Originating-IP: 69.134.17.170 Subject: Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=67221137 X-Yahoo-Profile: punkybluester X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 13 May 2004 06:24:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.64 I'm looking for information and possible scans of two specific fanzines: Bombshell #10 and Champion #7, both featuring Sarge Steel by Dick Giordano on the cover. Anyone know who published these or anyone who has their hands on them now? Thanks, --Eric From rmaheras@aol.com Thu May 13 07:19:04 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47682 invoked from network); 13 May 2004 14:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2004 14:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m14.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.204) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2004 14:19:03 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id r.161.2f4c4683 (15886) for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 10:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aol.com (mow-d23.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.164]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v99.12) with ESMTP id MAILINID81-3e0e40a383b43a6; Thu, 13 May 2004 10:18:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:18:28 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0DCF1740.4CD7D02A.0079F8E7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 208.223.93.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.204 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821 X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 In a message dated 5/12/2004 3:50:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, punkybluester@yahoo.com writes: >>Anyone know who published these or anyone who has their hands on them now?<< I'm about 99 percent sure I have "Bombshell" #10, with the Giordano cover. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall that I may even have two copies. I'll have to check and get back to you. Russ Maheras From punkybluester@yahoo.com Sat May 15 05:42:05 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15261 invoked from network); 15 May 2004 12:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2004 12:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.71) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2004 12:42:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: punkybluester@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.155] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2004 12:37:54 -0000 X-Sender: punkybluester@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 38279 invoked from network); 14 May 2004 15:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2004 15:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.99) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2004 15:58:42 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2004 15:58:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:58:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0DCF1740.4CD7D02A.0079F8E7@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 477 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.99 From: "Punky Bluester" X-Originating-IP: 69.134.17.170 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=67221137 X-Yahoo-Profile: punkybluester X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 15 May 2004 12:37:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.71 Thank you, sir! --Eric --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > In a message dated 5/12/2004 3:50:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, punkybluester@y... writes: > > >>Anyone know who published these or anyone who has their hands on them now?<< > > I'm about 99 percent sure I have "Bombshell" #10, with the Giordano cover. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall that I may even have two copies. I'll have to check and get back to you. > > Russ Maheras From mvhaas@elpaso.net Sun May 16 09:31:43 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69728 invoked from network); 16 May 2004 16:31:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2004 16:31:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.106) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2004 16:31:33 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2004 16:31:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:31:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 779 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.106 From: "flyingflounder" X-Originating-IP: 208.169.36.213 Subject: Re: Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Punky Bluester" wrote: > I'm looking for information and possible scans of two specific > fanzines: Bombshell #10 and Champion #7, both featuring Sarge Steel > by Dick Giordano on the cover. > Scan of cover of Bombshell #11 (It says #10 on the cover, but #11 inside) with Sarge Steel is at: http://server.elpaso.net/~mvhaas/Bombshell_11.jpg (also a 3.6 meg tiff version there if needed for print) May, 1967, published by Tony E. Rutherford of Huntington, WV. Part of Dave Esser's DCTC "Program to Enlarge Fandom." Mike Benton is listed as editor. Nothing on Sarge Steele or Giordano on the inside, which is all ditto ama-strips and stories. (Rich Buckler and Larry Dopp, mostly) best -- Merlin Haas From punkybluester@yahoo.com Sun May 16 11:05:07 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 44757 invoked from network); 16 May 2004 18:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2004 18:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.101) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2004 18:05:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: punkybluester@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.166] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2004 18:04:54 -0000 X-Sender: punkybluester@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28975 invoked from network); 16 May 2004 17:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2004 17:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2004 17:14:01 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.176] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 May 2004 17:13:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:13:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 202 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.84 From: "Punky Bluester" X-Originating-IP: 152.30.106.213 Subject: Re: Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=67221137 X-Yahoo-Profile: punkybluester X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 16 May 2004 18:04:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.101 Wow! I thought you guys might be able to help but I didn't think you'd go this far. Thank you! If'n you want to take those files down, I've already downloaded them. I appreciate it very much! --Eric From tmhamilton@aol.com Sat May 29 16:31:42 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88416 invoked from network); 29 May 2004 23:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 May 2004 23:31:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2004 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id r.19b.25407894 (16781) for ; Sat, 29 May 2004 19:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19b.25407894.2dea7753@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 19:31:31 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5111 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.188.139.137 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Bombshell and Champion Fanzines.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3364560 X-Yahoo-Profile: juliusschwartz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Champion #7 was published by Bob Cosgrove, and edited by Bob Cosgrove and Martin L. Greim. The cover features Sarge Steel by Greim, with a photo of Dick Giordano. The first article is a 3 page overview of Giordano's career to date (1969), and is accompanied by several photos and spot illos by the Champion staff. There is also a quick sketch of Sarge Steel by Giordano at the start of the article. Let me know if you'd like scans or more information. Best, Tom Hamilton [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From GSArkell@yahoo.com Thu Jun 03 10:36:53 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: gsarkell@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34194 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2004 17:36:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2004 17:36:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail03.birthdayalarm.com) (65.19.128.163) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2004 17:36:51 -0000 Received: by mail03.birthdayalarm.com (PowerMTA(TM) v2.0r13) id hntgr6059m0c; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:36:05 +0000 (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <5233627.1086284188031.JavaMail.Administrator@win02> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:36:28 +0100 (BST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 65.19.128.163 From: GSArkell@yahoo.com Subject: Birthday Calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3876894 X-Yahoo-Profile: gsarkell Hi, I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Can you please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. Don't worry it is quick, and you don't have to enter your year of birth:-). http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dobr/17149906a869761746b58397148c905 Thanks, Gary From tpstewart@aol.com Sat Jun 05 11:45:32 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15660 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2004 18:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jun 2004 18:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2004 18:45:31 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.77.2b30d0d9 (16930); Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <77.2b30d0d9.2df36ebb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:45:15 EDT To: captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 23 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.8 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Lower Grade Silver Bronze, Undergrounds ending, High Grade Marvels cont! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/29/04 10:56:11 AM, TPStewart writes: > Hey Listers! > > Please delete if not interested! > I have joined the side of evil, and have become something of a dealer... > > Today I have a pile of Silver/Bronze Age comics I picked up ending I have > DC, Harvey, Marvel, and soem rally nice undergrounds!. This week I've been > listing more Silver/Bronze Marvels I picked up a few days ago. It was three long > boxes of really nice, high grade Marvels, and some art portfolios, and I've > only listed about half of it! > > > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > > Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tpstewart@aol.com Wed Jun 09 10:30:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34412 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2004 17:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2004 17:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2004 17:30:22 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.1c7.1a4a998e (18251); Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1c7.1a4a998e.2df8a2e4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:29:08 EDT To: captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, comicart-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.188.139.136 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: OT Silver/Bronze Age comics ending today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hey Listers! > I have a ton of high grade silver/bronze age Marvel up, with more on the way! > > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > > Thanks! > > Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart. Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@cableone.net Thu Jun 10 19:22:58 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94584 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 02:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2004 02:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 02:22:58 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.220.176]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 4978365 for multiple; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:10:08 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <40C9191B.3040203@cableone.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:29:47 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fanzines , ultazines@yahoogroups.com, saga , atomic , international X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: LyleTucker Subject: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Please excuse the cross-posting) NOT BRAND ACK! #1, the 150+ page Digizine (Digital Fanzine) that took two years to complete is finally done! Cost is $10 postpaid any- where in the world, BUT DON'T PULL OUT YOUR WALLETS YET, THRONGING MASSES! Ye Editor is not quite prepared - he still needs a coupla weeks to get everything all ready for shipping. "What he have heyah," to paraphrase Strother Martin, "is not a failure to commoonicate," but rather a preview, if you will, a teaser: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 - Featuring a gorgeous cover by Master Artist, Dick Ayers: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/cover.jpg - With a portfolio of work by said Master, including a classic horror story: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/BadBloodAyers1.jpg - A fascinating first segment of The History of Belgian Comics by reknowned Comic Historian, Mike Kidson: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/Belgian.jpg - "Lo, A Journey Into Forbidden Worlds" - Witty CMB writer Rolf Gerdau uncovering a rarely reported-on Crossover chapter of comic history - "Death,' Cried the Children" - A captivating Captain Smash strip by David Watkins, Lyle Tucker & Bob Rivard: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/Smash1.jpg - An article on Faith and Comics by The Protestant Hour president and Inspirational author, Peter Wallace: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/god.jpg - "The Golden Age of Comic Book Movies" Regional Emmy Award and National Iris Award winning movie-maker, Chuck Minsker, surveys the current comic-book movie field - "Swift Morgan vs. The Flying Saucers" - vintage British sci-fi: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/2_frontispiece.jpg http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/swiftmorgan01.jpg - "The Roots of Flash Gordon" - Sci-fi Historian and Nutcake, Arthur Lortie examines the lengthy trail leading to Flash: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/flash.jpg - A review of "Seven Miles a Second" the groundbreaking Graphic Novel by David Wojnarowicz, James Romberger, and Marguerite van Cook - Interview with James Romberger and Marguerite van Cook - A review of Rachel Hartman's "Amy Unbounded: Belondweg Blossoming" by accomplished SequentialTart.com and SciFiDimension.com columnist, Laurie Anderson - "Remembering Sgt. Fury - The First 25 Issues" Fan Legend Ron Frantz counts down and rates these seminal issues - "The Artwork of Tony Gleeson" - Awesome work by paperback cover, pulp interior and comic book artist, Tony Gleeson: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/gleeson.jpg - "I Lived Through the DC Comics Attack!" Cool-Guy Costas Paximadas relates the joys of discovering DC comics in Greece during the '60s - "Aussie Comic Books - Yes, The Existed!" Madman Mark Cannon smashes through the misconception that there weren't no stinkin' Aussie comics - there were, damn ye! - A Review of John Armstrong's "Guilty of Everything" - a fascinating look at the early days of the Canadian Punk Music scene as lived by Armstrong (aka Buck Cherry - lead singer and guitarist for THE MODERNETTES), as well as a coupla .mpgs of their songs - "Before and After" - Awesome Aussie Artist, Shane Foley, inks the pencils of Jack "King" Kirby and Gene "The Dean" Colan -- "Russ Maheras: A Life in Fanzines" - Profile of longtime Fan Fixture, Russ Maheras, publisher of MAELSTROM and prolific past cover artist for THE BUYER'S GUIDE TO FANDOM I know, I know, you're saying to yourselves, "All this for a measly ten smackers??!! Is Tucker nuts??!!" (Well, duh!) Ordering information will be made available in my next post in a few weeks. -- Lyle Tucker See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@cableone.net Thu Jun 10 20:31:16 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 76064 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 03:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2004 03:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 03:31:15 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.220.176]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 4991258 for multiple; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:18:26 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <40C9291E.2090209@cableone.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:38:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cover Ups , music , stew , fanzines , Ultra Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: LyleTucker Subject: "Digizine" Defined (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker NOT BRAND ACK! #1 is all digital and comes on a CD-Rom - 154 digital pages of text & art, with a coupla .mpgs (video clips) thrown in. -- Lyle Tucker See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From ditko37@rogers.com Fri Jun 11 11:00:11 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81161 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 18:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2004 18:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com) (66.185.86.72) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 18:00:08 -0000 Received: from rogers.com ([69.199.80.164]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20040611145231.RZCV3107.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:52:31 -0400 Message-ID: <40C9C71F.3000405@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:52:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, stanlee@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [69.199.80.164] using ID at Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:52:27 -0400 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.185.86.72 From: Blake Bell Subject: OT: Every Question You've Never Heard ROY THOMAS Asked X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492 X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Hi everyone. Blake Bell here in my role as Director of Programming at the 2004 Toronto Comicon... http://www.torontocomicon.com/ It's an amazing line-up of guests this year, what with Will Eisner, Dave Sim, Roy Thomas, Bill Sienkiewicz, Mike Kaluta and a ton more. The reason for my e-mail today is that I'm moderating a one-on-one on the Saturday at the Con with Roy called "Roy Thomas: Every Question He's Never Been Asked." Yes, a tad ambitious given how many times Roy's been interviewed or on a panel, but we're striving to create a set of questions that will make the panel worthy of Roy's, and the fans', time rather than just repeating the same ol' questions Roy's always been asked. With that in mind, I have a request of all of you: Is there a question(s) you believe you've always wanted to hear Roy answer, but no interviewer has ever asked him? For example, an interviewer could have been going down an interesting path but then failed to ask a pertinent follow-up question and you thought, "Dang! If only he had followed up with THAT question!" Or you were reading an interview and thought, "Geez, I know Roy's career better than the interviewer and I would have liked to hear answers to THESE questions." The one-on-one with Roy will take place on the Saturday (June 19th, 1:15-2:15pm), so please feel free to submit your questions directly via email to me, and pass this word on to any fans OR professionals to get in on the adventure! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * STEVE DITKO'S unofficial web haven for serious fans at : http://www.ditko.comics.org * The '50s ATLAS Cover Gallery is open for public viewing at : http://www.timely-atlas.comics.org * Golden Age Legends - BILL EVERETT / ALEX SCHOMBURG / SYD SHORES : http://www.ess.comics.org From tpstewart@aol.com Mon Jun 14 17:38:06 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12409 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2004 00:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2004 00:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 00:38:05 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.3c.403a3e88 (4214); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c.403a3e88.2dff9ebb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:37:15 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.4 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Ot: Any OZ book experts out there? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers! I picked up a bunch of OZ books today: Ozma of OZ, Patchwork Girl of OZ, Emerald City of OZ, and The Road to OZ. They are all the old Reilly and Lee hardcover, illustrated editions. I have no idea how to figure out the edition/printings of these. Some are early, some look to be the later printings from the 20's. Any experts out there to point me in the right direction on these? Thanks! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Tue Jun 15 07:32:59 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94241 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2004 14:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2004 14:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmsrelay01.mx.net) (165.212.11.110) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 14:32:58 -0000 Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.129) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 14:32:05 -0000 Received: from [67.0.28.144] [67.0.28.252] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/beerbohm@teknetwork.com) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 440iFooGB0440M29; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:32:01 GMT Return-Path: X-USANET-Auth: 67.0.28.252 AUTH beerbohm@teknetwork.com [67.0.28.144] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: beerbohm//teknetwork.com@165.212.14.253 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1087286008.134.78269.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1087286008.134.78269.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:32:03 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 165.212.11.110 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Re: Ot: Any OZ book experts out there? [cbzines] Digest Number 453 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics > > From: tpstewart@aol.com >Subject: > >Hey Listers! > >I picked up a bunch of OZ books today: Ozma of OZ, Patchwork Girl of OZ, >Emerald City of OZ, and The Road to OZ. They are all the old Reilly and Le= e >hardcover, illustrated editions. I have no idea how to figure out the >edition/printings of these. Some are early, some look to be the=20 >later printings from the >20's. Any experts out there to point me in the right direction on these? > >Thanks! > >Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart Hi Tom, Any Baum books to be first prints must say Reilly & Britton Any Baum books which read Reilly & Lee are reprints Baum died in 1919 - the R&L editions began with 1920 editions The Ruth Thompson editions begin as Reilly & Lee best robert --=20 Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 ********** NEW COMICS CATALOG v38 #1 ************* *********** BRAND NEW - Summer 2004 ************** Simply ask for your free 28 color tab-size page copy with your snail mail address. ************* FOR SALE AND TRADE ***************** ** Lots of Vintage Comic Books, Pulps, BLBs etc ** ********* Ask me for your Free Copy ************** ************* www.blbcomics.com **************** ************************************************** Check out the new Overstreet #34 2004 for in-depth history of early comics work dating back to 1646 co-written with Richard Olson Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org**** ************************************************** Moderator: Platinum Age Comics Discussion Group (Co-Moderator: Leonardo De S=E1) Discussing the earliest international origins of comic books & strips at: http://www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics Visual Aid posted to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/PlatPics Most all roads seem to lead back to Rudolphe T=F6pffer ************************************************************ There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading. 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The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.=20 - From "The Wisdom of Will Rogers" The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense --Mark Twain From tpstewart@aol.com Wed Jun 16 10:49:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23140 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2004 17:49:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2004 17:49:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2004 17:49:56 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.111.336f8ce1 (24895); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <111.336f8ce1.2e01e229@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:49:29 EDT To: captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.188.157.38 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: OT: Silver/Bronze Age comics Avengers #100-200! eBay X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers! I have a bunch of comics auctions ending today, several treasuries and Marvel comics lots. I've also listed a stack of 70's Iron Man, Defenders, Invaders and a lot of Avengers 100 thru 200, complete! Here's the address: > > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > This is a collection that I purchased a couple of weeks ago, and I'm only now getting the majority of it listed. I'm also list some art portfolios probably later tonight, and a few DC/Marvle mixed lots. Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tpstewart@aol.com Mon Jun 21 19:29:21 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31649 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2004 02:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jun 2004 02:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2004 02:29:20 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.126.43e96e4a (3699); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <126.43e96e4a.2e08f35b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:28:43 EDT To: comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.188.157.36 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: WEIRD ebay Junk, Some OT, some not. YOU decide! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers! I hope you Salon.com subscribers caught the Bone/Cerebus article last week. It was about the end of both series, and their influence on the market, both content and self publishing. Anyway. I have the usual stacks of high and low grade Marvel stuff, including Avengers 100-200! Also a CBM #1, New Yorker Plastic Man issue, A BIG stack of Comic Book Artist (sorry Jon! I read them! Really!), and other comic lots. Oh, and a pile of original Star Wars Figures, and a Millennium Falcon! > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > Thanks! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Jun 22 08:50:47 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5184 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2004 15:50:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jun 2004 15:50:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.107) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2004 15:50:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.171] by n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2004 15:49:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:49:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1243 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.107 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.31 Subject: Small Press Idol - Round 4! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Yes folks! It's here, the Round 4 page is up and ready for you to view all the contestants entries, then vote on your favorite! This time through, we've posted all the entrants in one place at one time, and you do not have to log onto the forum to vote! So when you get a chance, stop by, check out the 9 top talents in the indy/small press as voted on by the membership of the Small Press Association, then add YOUR voice to who should be named IDOL '04! http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/vote/Round4.asp The winner will have their strip as the lead feature in the new Mysterious Visions Anthology full size comic. Other contestants will hopefully also chose to have their strips appear in that new series, and you can look forward to MVA presenting lots of new talent's first works, and launching new concepts and characters into the new SPA Imprint. While you're at the Dimestore site, look around some of the other great new things we have going. We're always expanding and exploring the best ways to bring Small Press the attention it deserves. Thanks for reading this, and don't forget to go to: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/vote/Round4.asp to see some great artwork, and vote for your favorite! -Ian Shires From thecomicist@yahoo.com Wed Jun 23 11:09:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7646 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2004 18:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2004 18:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2004 18:09:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.115] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2004 18:09:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:09:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 229 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.78 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.35.220 Subject: Contributions Wanted X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Comet Tales #13 needs some Sci-Fi stuff to print. There's no money to be made but theres tons of noteriety. All art must be reducable to digest size. Send contributions to Rocket Graphics, 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, OH 45039 From tpstewart@aol.com Sat Jun 26 02:12:45 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 68572 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2004 09:12:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jun 2004 09:12:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m26.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.7) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2004 09:12:45 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.1dc.24f72ebb (4459); Sat, 26 Jun 2004 05:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1dc.24f72ebb.2e0e97cf@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 05:11:43 EDT To: captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.7 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: pretty much OT:Comics and Star Wars ending, The Shadow begins! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey listers! The Star Wars figures and comics I have on the Mighty eBay are ending, and I've got a big Stack of Shadow pulps and digests just beginning, along with a nice Man from UNCLE lunchbox and thermos. I'll be putting some vintage Oz books on eBay in the next day or so as well. Thanks! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tpstewart@aol.com Tue Jun 29 00:52:41 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42160 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 07:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2004 07:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m21.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.2) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2004 07:52:40 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.28.494f8043 (3699); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <28.494f8043.2e1278d5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:48:37 EDT To: captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.2 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: OT!! The Shadow comes to an end!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers! My Shadow pulps are coming to an end, but the comic industry goes marching on! Here's the URL: > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > > Remember, I've heard a 'Spider-Man' movie might be openning soon! I hope they get the original Spider-Man Nick Hammond back to play the part! Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tpstewart@aol.com Tue Jun 29 01:02:38 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84071 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 08:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2004 08:02:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m26.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.7) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2004 08:02:37 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.8e.e88b575 (3699) for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e.e88b575.2e127b75@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:59:49 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.7 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Alter-Ego #37 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has everybody picked this up? Another great article by Bill Schelly, an interview with Gary Browm of Comic Comments, plus a pair of great articles by Will Murray on Superman. This has to be the best mag on gold/silver comics out there. Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dave@cottongraphics.com Tue Jun 29 08:26:09 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31039 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2004 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2004 15:26:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: dave@cottongraphics.com Received: from [66.218.67.190] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2004 15:25:40 -0000 X-Sender: dave@cottongraphics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33592 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 13:53:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jun 2004 13:53:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enigma.futurequest.net) (69.5.21.2) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2004 13:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18011 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2004 13:53:05 -0000 Received: from cottongraphics.com (cottongraphics.com [69.5.22.193]) by enigma.futurequest.net ([69.5.21.2]); 29 Jun 2004 13:53:05 -0000 Received: from 64.25.3.236 ([64.25.3.236]) by cottongraphics.com ([69.5.22.193]) with ESMTP via TCP; 29 Jun 2004 13:53:05 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20040629095700.023bc180@pop.cottongraphics.com> X-Sender: art@pop.cottongraphics.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:02:44 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 69.5.21.2 From: cottongraphics Subject: Re:Alter-Ego #37 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=105053159 X-Yahoo-Profile: giantmonsterrobot X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 29 Jun 2004 15:25:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.81 >Has everybody picked this up? > > >Another great article by Bill Schelly, an interview with Gary Browm of Comic >Comments, plus a pair of great articles by Will Murray on Superman. This has >to be the best mag on gold/silver comics out there. > > > > >Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart Not to mention the great interviews with Al Feldstein & Sy Barry! Always a great mag, I've bought every issue since it restarted several years ago. It's mind-blowing that its a monthly now, I don't see how Roy can consistently find so much rare and interesting material every month, but he does. Dave Newton From tpstewart@aol.com Wed Jul 07 13:28:00 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 18865 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2004 20:27:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jul 2004 20:27:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m26.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.7) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2004 20:27:58 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id r.e4.524ea16d (2612); Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:27:34 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.7 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: OT: Mighty Marvel BW Monster Mags! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Listers, I've got a stack of Marvel Mosters mags this week, plus the usual weird stuff: > http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm > > Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nightray2002@yahoo.com Sun Jul 18 19:18:26 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25019 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 02:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2004 02:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 02:18:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: nightray2002@yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.178] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2004 02:18:22 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30867 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 01:44:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2004 01:44:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 01:44:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.133] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2004 01:44:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:44:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 187 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.78 From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 141.152.243.135 Subject: New to the gang but in the mix - X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via web; 19 Jul 2004 02:18:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.87 Goza posts Magnicore - The new Magnicore strips are up. That's right, there are two this time since I missed last weeks postings: http://home.earthlink.net/~nightray2002/id7.html DGoza From mail@1st-media.com Tue Jul 20 19:24:28 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6108 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 02:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jul 2004 02:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 02:24:27 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-83-135-200.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.135.200]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6L2NQu31346; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:23:26 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040720221810.0223ba50@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:22:13 -0400 To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Our New Book X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications At http://my.lulu.com/1stmedia . The artwork is in and now published. Prince The Wonder Dog Versus The Aliens. This is the first in our Prince books. Our children's books for kids of all ages. It's better than most comics today. Please pass this information on to anyone you know. This to raise funds for Jerry my son who has autism. I have posted before if anyone wants to be part of my comic projects. I think this is a story that could have been done by Ditko or Kirby. Regards, Aaron 1st Media Comics http://www.1st-media.com/comics From mail@1st-media.com Sat Jul 24 17:32:45 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72007 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 00:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jul 2004 00:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 00:32:44 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-83-178-236.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.178.236]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6P0WhP26329; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:32:43 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040724202419.021b7e48@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:32:10 -0400 To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Blogging X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications Putting up my blogging sites which are my Just A Few Words where people can talk on what they want. http://1stmedia.blogspot.com allows people to comment on my postings and http://1stmedia.tripod.com/jafw where people can post their own comments. So if anyone would care to post please feel free to do. Aaron Mr.A. Your 1st Place To Visit. http://www.1st-media.com From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Aug 10 08:32:43 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92511 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 15:32:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2004 15:32:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.93) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 15:32:42 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2004 15:32:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:32:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1644 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.93 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 68.169.118.221 Subject: SPA Update - Summer '04! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello folks! It's been a while since I went around spreading the word on=20 the latest at the Small Press Association. So on the off-chance that=20 you haven't heard of us, the SPA is a community that grew out of a=20 Yahoo Club (remember those?!?) to build better tools for small press=20 publishers, and fans of the genre, to use to do all the things that=20 small pressers do. That includes everything from how-to make a=20 minicomic of 100 copies, to how to prep files for a 96 page GN, to=20 how to computer-color Webcomics, and any aspect of creating comics=20 therein. That includes running a review magazine both in print and=20 online, so readers can find out what's good, and connecting that to=20 an ordering system so you can get it=85at a discount off the cover=20 prices to boot! Anyway, that's just a tip of the Iceberg that is the SPA.=20 I'm going about today to let people know we've got a brand new=20 resource on the website, Classifieds! These are a classifieds system=20 that is going to be designed from the get-go as geared for and by=20 small pressers/zinesters. During the beta phase, all ads are free,=20 and that includes being able to upload up to 5 images per item. Buy,=20 sell, trade your comic/zine collections, things you've printed, and=20 find out of print things. You can also get e-mailed when someone=20 posts an ad matching something you're looking for. Check it out!=20 Help us define additional categories and such. The Classifieds:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Classifieds/default.asp=20 Thanks for taking the time to read this, and hope that you=20 find this useful! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com From Cartomancer@netzero.net Tue Aug 10 08:54:41 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 63222 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Aug 2004 15:54:40 -0000 X-Sender: Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35935 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 15:52:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2004 15:52:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound28-2.lax.untd.com) (64.136.28.160) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 15:52:21 -0000 Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (smtp03.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.123]) by smtpout02.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABATT53UAAWSVZA for (sender ); Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25521 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 15:52:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO computer) (64.48.72.137) by smtp03.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 15:52:07 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c47ef2$57cc2ac0$89483040@computer> To: Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:54:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-ContentStamp: 2:2:2585067491 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: C0dRuh5FKnTyRAzO4cZSEWk7omLqzTVxWCcL1vuWVPGZfUZsAXawyx28s9SG7RhJ X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.136.28.160 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 10 Aug 2004 15:54:40 -0000 Did anyone on this list happen to save the posthumous Jack Kirby interview that ran in COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE about 4 years ago. If they did, can I get a photocopyof that piece, I need it for an article. Thanks! --Will Murray From ric.croxton@gmail.com Tue Aug 10 09:08:15 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 45436 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 16:08:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2004 16:08:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.170.205) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 16:08:05 -0000 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 76so150049rnl for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.77.53 with SMTP id z53mr76664rna; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a04081009082db74f2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:08:04 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <001101c47ef2$57cc2ac0$89483040@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <001101c47ef2$57cc2ac0$89483040@computer> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.233.170.205 From: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Murray Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:54:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Did anyone on this list happen to save the posthumous Jack Kirby interview that ran in COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE about 4 years ago. If they did, can I get a photocopyof that piece, I need it for an article. Thanks! --Will Murray Do you know the issue number or date? I have several issues and a friend who is coming to visit has several more. Ric Croxton From Cartomancer@netzero.net Tue Aug 10 11:30:48 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67226 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Aug 2004 18:30:48 -0000 X-Sender: Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71950 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 16:41:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2004 16:41:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com) (64.136.20.160) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 16:41:51 -0000 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABATT8VKARYA3H2 for (sender ); Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 835 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2004 16:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO computer) (67.241.226.216) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 16:39:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c47ef8$eec20b60$d8e2f143@computer> To: Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:41:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-ContentStamp: 12:6:4188355452 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: C0dRuh5FKnTyRAzO4cZSEWk7omLqzTVxUEq98qNjd6buy4iiKwMQI715DaV1t2dD X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.136.20.160 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 10 Aug 2004 18:30:48 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Ric Croxton To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview >----- Original Message ----- >From: Will Murray >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:54:32 -0400 >Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBG Kirby interview >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > > > Did anyone on this list happen to save the posthumous Jack Kirby >interview that ran in COMICS BUYER'S GUIDE about 4 years ago. If they did, >can I get a photocopyof that piece, I need it for an article. > > Thanks! > >--Will Murray > > > >Do you know the issue number or date? I have several issues and a >friend who is coming to visit has several more. I wish I did. I had saved it, but accidentally threw it out unwittingly. To the best of my recollection, it ran in between 1999-2002. probably in 2000 or 2001. I recall it was mentioned on the cover and Kirby hadn't been interviewed by CBG in years. Sorry I don't have a specific date. --Will Murray From mvhaas@elpaso.net Fri Aug 20 23:15:17 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mvhaas@elpaso.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22348 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2004 06:15:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Aug 2004 06:15:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.elpaso.net) (208.169.36.11) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2004 06:15:16 -0000 Received: from [208.169.36.213] (dsl36-213.elpaso.net [208.169.36.213]) by server.elpaso.net (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7L6FE6N020304 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 01:15:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mvhaas@pop.elpaso.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1046611925.141.93234.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1046611925.141.93234.m12@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 01:15:55 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.4; VAE 6.27.0.6; VDF 6.27.0.23 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.169.36.11 From: Merlin Haas Subject: [cbzines] CAPA-Alpha info needed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=4937846 X-Yahoo-Profile: flyingflounder Does anyone out there have access to CAPA-Alpha mailings 2-6, 8, 45, 63, 64, and 122? I need some help on a project for the 40th Anniversary Mailing in October. Also, any K-a alumni who'd like to participate in the anniversary mailing of comics fandom's first Amateur Press Association are welcome. Contact me at for more info. best -- Merlin Haas From nightray2002@yahoo.com Sun Aug 22 11:30:14 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98282 invoked by uid 7800); 22 Aug 2004 18:30:14 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34845 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2004 18:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2004 18:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2004 18:01:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.141] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2004 18:01:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:01:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 572 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.80 From: "Darrell Goza" X-Originating-IP: 68.162.104.147 Subject: Striply Speaking - X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357 X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 22 Aug 2004 18:30:14 -0000 As you know I've been posting some superhero adventure strips at: http://home.earthlink.net/~nightray2002/id7.html which up to now has been largely stuff I've wanted to do. The other creators who've been helping me suggested I open the forum to other creators who just might have some stories they want to tell. To get the skinny on how you too can become a part of the happening, drop a line to Aja_Frost@yahoo.com and she'll give you all the particulars. And while I'm at it, is there anyone here familiar with WATCH OUT MAGAZINE from the early 70's? Darrell Goza From tpstewart@aol.com Tue Aug 24 01:39:13 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: TPStewart@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 45841 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2004 08:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2004 08:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m16.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.206) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2004 08:39:13 -0000 Received: from TPStewart@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.4.) id i.1da.29cb7f91 (4446); Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1da.29cb7f91.2e5c58a1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:38:57 EDT To: seattleactor@hotmail.com, lordgrim117@earthlink.net, jpseitz@excite.com, kirby-l@yahoogroups.com, Cinlawless@aol.com, tode211@yahoo.com, mego@yahoogroups.com, mrice@ucla.edu, evinrude131@earthlink.net, polt@xavier.xu.edu, robsalk@qwest.net, cigno42@yahoo.com, Stewartfamily1981@msn.com, cnhez@charter.net, toriwilliamson@blindsmile.com, Soysage27@aol.com Cc: backyardpatrol@yahoogroups.com, rjjokela@juno.com, captainaction@yahoogroups.com, comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, dtdonnahoo@juno.com, euryman@msn.com, Jeff_A_Stewart@RL.gov MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.206 From: tpstewart@aol.com Subject: Email change! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238836 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks! I'm changing email. The new one will be tompstewart@msn.com. I should be at aol until the end of the month. Thanks! Tom Stewart. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mail@1st-media.com Sat Sep 18 15:40:27 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 124 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2004 22:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2004 22:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2004 22:40:26 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-83-188-228.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.188.228]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i8IMeQd15319 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040918183918.021e9e88@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:39:48 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: B&W Book X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications The Talent Within (Story and Art) Writers and Artist Helping To Defeat Autism Now. Whatever genre anybody wants to contribute is alright since I'm not locking it into a broad theme. It doesn't have to be new just something you would like to contribute to this B&W book. It can be a story, comic, combo, spot illustrations or etc. (non-licensed characters only) Any other questions please let me know. Regards, Aaron Mr.A. 1st Media Publications http://www.1st-media.com/1stpublications From ric.croxton@gmail.com Mon Sep 20 14:14:28 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42534 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2004 21:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2004 21:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2004 21:14:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.173] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2004 21:14:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:14:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 244 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.74 From: "Richard Croxton" X-Originating-IP: 69.76.224.60 Subject: The Collector #27 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 I was looking through some old Fanzines I own and found a partial issue of what looks to be The Collector #27. I've been unable to find a complete copy of the book anywhere. Does anyone have a cover scan and ToC? Thanks for any help. Ric From LyleTucker@cableone.net Mon Sep 20 19:27:55 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72645 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2004 02:27:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2004 02:27:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.123) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2004 02:27:54 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 37269622 for multiple; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:10:38 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <414F91A2.5030108@cableone.net> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:27:46 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.123 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 CD Label art (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Courtesy of work by Darlin' Dick Ayers and Natty Nigel Kitching! http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/NBACOV.bmp All-Digital fanzine ordering info and content listing to follow in a coupla days! 200 digital pages of art and articles - $10 postpaid anywhere in the world. (Please forgive the cross-posting) -- Lyle Tucker See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From mail@1st-media.com Fri Sep 24 16:26:26 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1st-media.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14709 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2004 23:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2004 23:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goliath4.primary-server.net) (216.71.84.71) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2004 23:26:25 -0000 Received: from D97V5H41.1st-media.com (pool-162-83-163-204.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.163.204]) by goliath4.primary-server.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i8ONQOb27353; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:26:24 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20040924192406.02219300@www.1st-media.com> X-Sender: 1st-media@www.1st-media.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:26:12 -0400 To: ditko-l@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.71.84.71 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: T-Shirts X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=153343759 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications Just to let everyone know if anyone would like a photo T-Shirt they can email me the graphic. The shirts cost $12.00 including shipping. The colors are white, ash, black in sizes S,M,L and XL. The monies are for autism awareness. Also if anyone wants to contribute a story or artwork for our book please let me know. Regards, Aaron Mr.A. 1st Media Publications http://www.1st-media.com/1stpublications From LyleTucker@cableone.net Sun Sep 26 08:11:52 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8994 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2004 15:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2004 15:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.123) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2004 15:11:52 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail3.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 38073488 for multiple; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:54:14 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <4156DC28.40006@cableone.net> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:11:36 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.123 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 Ordering Info (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Okay, folks - this'll be my last posting about this - you've all been very patient and supportive as I've bumbled my way along this pro- cess - thanks for putting up with me! I hope I've put together a comic digizine you can enjoy - I believe I have! Here's the link that'll take you to the ad with the ordering info: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/ad3.jpg Here's the link that will show you the true resolution/clarity of the digizine: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/nba.bmp Here's a link to the full Table of Contents of the digizine: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/table.jpg (Sorry for the cross-postings -- maximum exposure, dontcha know!) -- Lyle Tucker See my Artwork at: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From nova64@mchsi.com Fri Oct 01 20:17:52 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31862 invoked by uid 7800); 2 Oct 2004 03:17:52 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19798 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2004 17:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2004 17:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2004 17:45:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2004 17:45:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:45:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 207 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.87 From: "Doug" X-Originating-IP: 63.254.129.26 Subject: Issues of Super Adventures? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 2 Oct 2004 03:17:52 -0000 Hi, everyone! I was wondering if anyone had issues of Super Adventures they would be willing to sell? I currently need issues 3, 4, 7, and 10. If so, please e-mail me at nova64@mchsi.com Thanks!! Doug From LyleTucker@cableone.net Sat Oct 09 19:36:13 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63811 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2004 02:36:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2004 02:36:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2004 02:36:11 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 21161785 for multiple; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:35:18 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <4168A017.3040209@cableone.net> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:36:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 Price Reduced!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To $5.85. A $5 cover price with $0.85 1st Class postage anywhere in the world. I felt the $10 price was too high (okay, I admit it it - greed got the better of me!), but that $5 is a better price for a 200 page digizine packed with articles, comics, music and art! If you have already ordered the zine at the $10 price, I will refund you the difference. See links below for a full preview - the ad at the link still says $10, but I will change that over this weekend. If you wish to order this incredibly illuminating and highly entertaining digizine (as reviewed by L. Tucker and Associates, a non-profit -- at this point! -- organization *totally* affiliated with the mag) at the new price, all of the ordering info is still relevant, simply replace $5.85 for the $10. -- Lyle Tucker My Comic Fanzine NOT BRAND ACK! #1 now on sale! http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/ad3.jpg SEE actual clarity of digizine here (Takes a moment to load - big file that shows crispness of magazine that your screen will display): http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/nba.bmp See full Table of Contents here: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/table.jpg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@cableone.net Sun Oct 10 07:51:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63449 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2004 14:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2004 14:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2004 14:51:55 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 21210420 for multiple; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:50:59 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <41694C84.5030002@cableone.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 08:51:48 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: TAGALOG Translater? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker I'm looking for someone who could transalte TAGALOG comics from the Phillipines. I have a buncha '50s comics from the Phillipines with *gorgeous* art by Francisco Coching, Alfredo Alcala, Nestor Redondo, and others, and would like to have examples translated for inclusion in my next issue of NBA! Please contact me if you are capable and willing - thanks in advance! -- Lyle Tucker My Comic Fanzine NOT BRAND ACK! #1 now on sale! http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/ad3.jpg SEE actual clarity of digizine here (Takes a moment to load - big file that shows crispness of magazine): http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/nba.bmp See full Table of Contents here: http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/table.jpg From LyleTucker@cableone.net Thu Oct 14 09:30:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37568 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2004 16:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Oct 2004 16:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.122) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2004 16:30:15 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 21883176 for multiple; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:29:13 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <416EA990.9090507@cableone.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:30:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.122 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: NOT BRAND ACK! #1 Ordering Site (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Full ad and one-click PayPal ordering capability now here: http://lyletucker.tripod.com/ $5.85 postpaid 1st Class anywhere in world! Took me awhile to get it down, but it's all here, folks! As always, thanks for your endless patience. -- Lyle Tucker My Comic Fanzine NOT BRAND ACK! #1 now on sale! $5.85 for 200 all-digital pages of pop culture FUN! http://lyletucker.tripod.com/ See artwork by myself and Bob Rivard here: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sat Oct 23 10:11:38 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15426 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2004 17:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2004 17:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.50) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2004 17:11:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n21.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2004 17:11:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.187] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2004 17:11:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:11:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 344 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.50 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.31.169 Subject: Comet Tales #13 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Well, it's ready to go! Lot's of nonsencical stuff and weird stuff. Look in your mailboxes all you special ones. It will be there within 2 weeks. All of you who have not experienced Comet Tales. You can get on the lifetime list by sending a dollar to Comet Tales , 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, Oh 45039. You don't know what you're missing. From jmain44@aol.com Sat Oct 23 16:46:33 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 21055 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.28) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n14.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2004 23:46:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.170] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2004 23:46:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:46:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 481 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.28 From: "Jim Main" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.101.8 Subject: Re: Comet Tales #13 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478 X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 ---I can't wait to see it Jim! Jim M. In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > > Well, it's ready to go! Lot's of nonsencical stuff and weird stuff. Look in your > mailboxes all you special ones. It will be there within 2 weeks. All of you who > have not experienced Comet Tales. You can get on the lifetime list by sending > a dollar to Comet Tales , 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, Oh 45039. You don't > know what you're missing. From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sun Oct 24 06:34:09 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81738 invoked by uid 7800); 24 Oct 2004 13:34:09 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32630 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 13:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2004 13:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.43) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 13:02:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2004 13:02:52 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.167] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2004 13:02:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:02:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 820 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.43 From: "stevekeeter" X-Originating-IP: 65.137.78.228 Subject: Re: Comet Tales #13 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 24 Oct 2004 13:34:09 -0000 COMET TALES is just about the most highly polished small press comics publication around, and one of the very few places one can gander at Jim's excellent artwork (great use of color in recent issues, too). So, if you haven't sent Jim that dollar, I highly encourage y'all to do that, you definitely won't regret it. --skeet --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "thecomicist" wrote: > > Well, it's ready to go! Lot's of nonsencical stuff and weird stuff. Look in your > mailboxes all you special ones. It will be there within 2 weeks. All of you who > have not experienced Comet Tales. You can get on the lifetime list by sending > a dollar to Comet Tales , 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, Oh 45039. You don't > know what you're missing. From LyleTucker@cableone.net Sun Oct 24 07:14:30 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 78773 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 14:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2004 14:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cableone.net) (24.116.0.121) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 14:14:30 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by smail1.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 1653637 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:13:19 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <417BB8A5.8020606@cableone.net> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:13:57 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.121 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Comet Tales #13 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker stevekeeter wrote: >COMET TALES is just about the most highly polished small press >comics publication around, and one of the very few places one can >gander at Jim's excellent artwork (great use of color in recent >issues, too). So, if you haven't sent Jim that dollar, I highly >encourage y'all to do that, you definitely won't regret it. > Let me second that sentiment - I'm extremely impressed with the quality of work Jim puts out - this is a bargain that shouldn't be ignored. -- Lyle Tucker My Comic Fanzine NOT BRAND ACK! #1 now on sale! $5.85 for 200 all-digital pages of pop culture FUN! http://lyletucker.tripod.com/ For example of actual magazine clarity, go here (large file, might take a moment to load): http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/nba.bmp See artwork by myself and Bob Rivard here: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sun Oct 24 08:22:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72694 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 15:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2004 15:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta13.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.44) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 15:22:23 -0000 Received: from DIMESTORE1 ([69.173.21.212]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20041024152223.QZUK15118.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:22:23 -0400 To: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:22:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcS5I2v9QQQRgmUYSt6OTSFHQNghAAAucKgQ Message-Id: <20041024152223.QZUK15118.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.168.78.44 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Comet Tales #13 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 We just put the review of the last one in The Guide #49...so you know! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions www.dimestoreproductions.com www.smallpressassociation.com -----Original Message----- From: thecomicist [mailto:thecomicist@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:11 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Comet Tales #13 Well, it's ready to go! Lot's of nonsencical stuff and weird stuff. Look in your mailboxes all you special ones. It will be there within 2 weeks. All of you who have not experienced Comet Tales. You can get on the lifetime list by sending a dollar to Comet Tales , 787 Bay Harbor, Maineville, Oh 45039. You don't know what you're missing. Yahoo! Groups Links From tazwert@email.com Thu Oct 28 14:17:52 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69952 invoked by uid 7800); 28 Oct 2004 21:17:42 -0000 X-Sender: tazwert@email.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22084 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2004 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2004 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.41) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2004 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2004 17:53:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.182] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2004 17:53:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:53:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 138 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.41 From: "Paul Ewert" X-Originating-IP: 12.104.244.39 Subject: Bill Leibowitz passes away X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=60616170 X-Yahoo-Profile: tazwert X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 28 Oct 2004 21:17:42 -0000 Comics Retailer dies suddenly at age 63. http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/5926.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From LyleTucker@cableone.net Sun Oct 31 21:01:54 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 58048 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2004 05:01:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Nov 2004 05:01:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO S2.cableone.net) (24.116.0.228) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2004 05:01:52 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.119.180.199]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 245275 for multiple; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:00:26 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <4185C276.1050703@cableone.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:58:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirby , wood , ditkokirby , fanzines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.116.0.228 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: Put On Your Glasses (OT) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380 X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Your 3-D glasses, that is! Thanks to Rolf Gerdau for picking this up for me offa eBay! For a comic that's 51 years old, the 3-D effect is really quite strong. (I have a question - can anyone ID the artist for the Captain-3D ad of page 14? Captain 3-D was a Kirby/ Ditko project, but that figure is obviously by neither of them. The final ad of the book, page 30, features a Kirby Capt. 3-D figure) http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d00cov.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d00ifc.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d01.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d02.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d03.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d04.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d05.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d06.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d07.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d08.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d09.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d10.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d11.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d12.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d13.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d14.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d15.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d16.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d17.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d18.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d19.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d20.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d21.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d22.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d23.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d24.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d25.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d26.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d27.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d28.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d29.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d30.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d31.jpg http://www.myweb.cableone.net/lyletucker/3d32.jpg -- Lyle Tucker My Comic Fanzine NOT BRAND ACK! #1 now on sale! $5.85 for 200 all-digital pages of pop culture FUN! http://lyletucker.tripod.com/ For example of actual magazine clarity, go here (large file, might take a moment to load): http://myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/nba.bmp For a full listing of the TABLE OF CONTENTS: http://www.myweb.cableone.net/LyleTucker/table.jpg See artwork by myself and Bob Rivard here: http://home.earthlink.net/~rivards/tucker.htm From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Nov 03 07:39:20 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34633 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2004 15:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2004 15:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.48) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2004 15:39:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n19.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2004 15:38:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.151] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2004 15:38:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:38:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2908 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.48 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 69.173.21.212 Subject: SPA Turns 3! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 That's right, it's been 3 years now, since we started the=20 yahoo club that quickly grew into a chorus of voices ready to bring=20 change to the small press and indy arena. Today, the SPA has a large=20 forum of it's own, and hundreds of member publishers and creators.=20 We've started a printing service based on collective bargaining and=20 sharing of knowledge, and run the Small Press Idol contest.=20 Meanwhile, we took a simple review magazine called Obscurity=20 Unlimited, and turned it into The Guide to Self Published=20 Periodicals, and began building a new distribution system in it's=20 pages. This lead to our forming strategic alliances with companies=20 like Brenner Printing, Cold Cut Distribution, and ComiXpress. We've=20 certainally come a long way in 3 years. But really, as a young organization, there is still a TON to=20 do, and we've had a bit of a struggle lately with the website, as an=20 upgrade went poorly and messed up our set up, causing site outages=20 for months. We've got most of the problems and bugs worked out, on a=20 new hosting company, and we've gotten a number of new things into=20 the mix, like a new Gallery for artists to show off their art, and=20 people to comment on it, new Classifieds system, free to use, and=20 much more. Seriously, if you haven't stopped by=20 www.dimestoreproductions.com lately, check it out=85we've got the=20 pages loading faster and much of the cross-browser problems fixed. So we're entering into a sort of new awareness campaign, to=20 get the SPA into the minds and hearts of the comic readers out=20 there. We're leading it with a push to get people reading our weekly=20 Kick Start e-newsletter, which we now have hosted as a Bravenet=20 list, which makes the members list much easier to manage, and has=20 cut the size of the e-mails down too, which was another complaint=20 we'd had in past ways we'd been sending it. So if you're interested=20 in keeping up with developments in the SPA, knowing when reviews are=20 posted, and deadlines are coming, then head on over to:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Kick/index.asp and sign up to=20 get the newsletter. You'll be glad you did! What does the SPA have coming up in 2005? The launching of=20 the SPA Imprint (co-branding), with Mysterious Visions Anthology #1=20 (lead feature being the Metro Med strip, which was the winner of the=20 2004 Small Press Idol. #2 will feature the #2 winner, Fly Guy) The=20 Idol contest will be returning for a 2005 version, we've also got=20 many other new things in the works, such as The Guide going monthly,=20 and a new Quarterly Catalog that lists everything (period!) We're=20 also rumbling our way towards starting our own publishers convention=20 in Cleveland, Ohio. So if you have even the slightest interest in=20 any of that=85we hope to see you around! Feel free to ask me=20 questions, or take me to task about anything. Ian Shires www.dimestoreprosuctions.com Ian@dimestoreproductions.com From actionheroes@bellsouth.net Thu Nov 04 06:46:29 2004 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43979 invoked by uid 7800); 4 Nov 2004 14:46:27 -0000 X-Sender: actionheroes@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44131 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2004 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2004 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.66) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2004 05:39:47 -0000 Received: from yesrelayer ([68.215.112.106]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20041104053946.TYCO2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@yesrelayer>; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:39:46 -0500 Message-ID: <009101c4c230$8fd646e0$6101a8c0@yesrelayer> To: , , Cc: , Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:38:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.66 From: "AVB" Subject: DEMON & DREADNOK RIPPER photo reviews X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=203604011 X-Yahoo-Profile: necromonicum X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 4 Nov 2004 14:46:27 -0000 Click the link below if you would like to see Photo Reviews of THE DEMON (DC Direct) and/or the DREADNOK RIPPER (GI JOE vs. COBRA) http://www.actionheroes.homestead.com/reviewsindex.html thanks, al From thecomicist@yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 12:25:59 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: thecomicist@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39986 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2004 20:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Dec 2004 20:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.32) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2004 20:25:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n15.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2004 20:25:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.188] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2004 20:25:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:25:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 214 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.32 From: "thecomicist" X-Originating-IP: 216.68.41.143 Subject: Comet Tales #14 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154476201 X-Yahoo-Profile: thecomicist Wow, I'm sure glad to get #13 behind me. No one liked it. But, #14 is back to the strange and weird. Look for it in your mailboxes about the first of the year. One dollar get's you on the free subscription list. From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun Dec 12 12:38:26 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8918 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2004 20:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Dec 2004 20:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.195) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2004 20:38:25 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so266752wri for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:38:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dN5ZWpThFauJY98YmJ1dVHXGkYiEtOSteZ/Ck8ObD6YSI8tB8WLqnLzC558UQIJ6ECA/qINSMtURyyZ7uj1vpDmKJsHt/+PTLPoAmbx5MhJc3b5/JYcFWt95sF0td663lKyoOfvLbaP0zZCUEGDSbB7HPXCywMThOCbEe7NgiSk= Received: by 10.54.22.35 with SMTP id 35mr443571wrv; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.54 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:38:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a04121212385d7e0156@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:38:24 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.233.184.195 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comet Tales #14 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 What was #13 like? I never recieved a copy. Ric Croxton 8760 Chestnut Circle #3 KC, MO 64131 On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:25:27 -0000, thecomicist wrote: > > Wow, I'm sure glad to get #13 behind me. No one liked it. But, #14 is back > to > the strange and weird. Look for it in your mailboxes about the first of the > year. > One dollar get's you on the free subscription list. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Dec 14 10:19:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36449 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2004 18:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2004 18:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.48) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2004 18:19:55 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n19.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2004 18:19:19 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.142] by mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2004 18:19:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:19:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 3053 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.48 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 69.173.21.212 Subject: Like a Phoenix: SPA Rides Again X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello out there! I'm going to assume that most of you that=20 take the time to read this have heard of WHAT the Small Press=20 Association is, and also that of those that know, it's no secret=20 we've had some growing pains in the last few months. Many have=20 likely been frustrated that the forum, or entire website, was down=20 intermittently and often. Well, I have just completed the basics of=20 a complete overhaul, which included moving the site onto a dedicated=20 server, and re-doing most of the site code. It also included=20 bringing in an entirely different forum system. Where has that left the SPA? Back on solid footing and ready=20 to go, actually. We've tested our cross-browser, and cross platform=20 compatibilities, and our load speeds, and at this point, I'm=20 signaling an all clear for anyone who has ever had an interest in=20 what the SPA stands for to head to:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Community/ and sign up. Yes,=20 we're starting our membership over from scratch (most Admins and=20 Moderators are returning to their roles, though there may be some=20 adjusting, and new volunteers are welcome!) The new year ahead is going to be an exciting one for us at=20 the SPA, as we are right now gearing up for the second annual Small=20 Press Idol competition, which will be announced officially in=20 January. This year, we're going to be looking to launch a series=20 with a 4-issue commitment as the grand prize, and other prizes to=20 round it out. Last years winners will be seeing print starting in=20 January with Mysterious Visions Anthology #1, and Michael=20 Hutchinson's Metro Med strip leading the way as our #1 winner from=20 last year's competition. The SPA has other cool projects getting=20 back into action, and right now is the BEST time EVER to get in and=20 be active with them. The SPA is supposed to be, and was designed to be, a=20 welcome =96 check your egos at the door =96 be there to help and ask=20 help if you need it type of place. We've built a ton of tools for=20 creators, publishers, and fans of small press to use to get from=20 idea, to execution, to product, to the hands of readers. We have=20 strategic alliances with companies such as ComiXpress, Brenner, and=20 Cold Cut. We're looking to start a new convention in the new year=20 (North Coast Creator's Con) in Cleveland, OH=85looking at late summer=20 for that event. And we're starting work on a real Small Press Hall=20 Of Fame foundation. So we hope, if you've made it reading this this=20 far, you've found something of sufficient interest to warrant=20 clicking the link ( http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Community/ )=20 and keeping an eye on the developments as they continue to go up.=20 This extends not just to the public reading this, but the people who=20 run the sites I'm posting this info on, and anyone in between. Thank=20 you for listening, considering, and if you do, acting. Piece by=20 piece and step by step, we're changing how Small/Indy press looks at=20 itself, and is seen by others. Hope to see you around! Ian Shires Dimestore Productions P.O. Box 214 Madison, OH 44057 From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Dec 14 12:49:37 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3674 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2004 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2004 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m14.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.204) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2004 20:49:36 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.15c.45bdf4df (26116) for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:49:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <15c.45bdf4df.2ef0abd6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:49:26 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.204 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: THE BEST OF THE RBCC X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now available: THE BEST OF THE RBCC edited and published by James Van Hise (2004, 8 1/2" x 11", 140 pages, side-stapled. Brand new). In 1981 a publisher asked me to assemble a collection of material from THE ROCKET'S BLAST COMICOLLECTOR, the fanzine originally published by G.B. Love from 1961 to 1974 and by me from 1974 to 1980 (and recently revived by me in 2000). The version I assembled in 1981 was reworked, material dropped, and then published as a special issue of COMICS FEATURE instead of THE BEST OF THE RBCC. So I've finally decided to issue it as I originally intended, though with additional material added from 1960s issues of THE RBCC. Previously unpublished full color front and back cover by Mahlon Fawcett, The issue contains 1970s interviews with Stan Lee, Roy Thomas, Carmine Infantino, and Dr. Frederic Wertham. Also articles on Dr. Fate, Captain Atom, Adam Strange, Alex Raymond and Magnus Robot Fighter. Also articles on E.C. Comics and more, plus artwork by Mike Zeck, John Fantucchio, Fred Hembeck, Robert Kline, John Adkins Richardson, Don Newton and others including reprints of some classic old RBCC covers. I'm also reprinting some of those 1960s and 1970s newspaper articles on comics which the old RBCC used to run, including one which has comments from a 45 year old Stan Lee. Comic strip reprints include Ron Wilber's Flash Gordon parody from RBCC #134. Buyer pays $6.00 priority shipping or $2.00 media mail. Order from James Van Hise, 57754 Onaga Trail, Yucca Valley, CA 92284. Payment by check, money order or Paypal to Jimvanhise@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Dec 14 13:54:49 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30483 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2004 21:54:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2004 21:54:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m18.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.208) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2004 21:54:47 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.13d.8877892 (18403) for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:54:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13d.8877892.2ef0bb24@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:54:44 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.138.208 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] THE BEST OF THE RBCC X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might help if I include a price. Buyer pays $20.00 plus $6.00 priority shipping or $2.00 media mail. Order from James Van Hise, 57754 Onaga Trail, Yucca Valley, CA 92284. Payment by check, money order or Paypal to Jimvanhise@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From yelir1182000@yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 23:02:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 66363 invoked by uid 7800); 13 Jan 2005 07:02:53 -0000 X-Sender: yelir1182000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25468 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 02:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2005 02:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.32) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 02:55:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n15.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2005 02:55:13 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.141] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2005 02:55:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:55:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 92 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.32 From: "ernie" X-Originating-IP: 70.16.200.217 Subject: FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=165722162 X-Yahoo-Profile: yelir1182000 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 13 Jan 2005 07:02:53 -0000 ihave about 25 fanzines and want to know where i can get a rough idea of the value of them From ric.croxton@gmail.com Thu Jan 13 00:08:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25298 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 08:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2005 08:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.204) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 08:08:46 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so18595wra for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DWlUzODsdrEP4lcSPc3pm43kqRY8pJ10RmkryqoY99ZRHVLBsrtYLt95ikJnMCt1iRiVqzG/KWdtx3FlNwVQsnjyZn8RxcA7PfuBxnjgqkX1v8+PVqxHQgBPWRjlyRuNts1WtQZaWkBljA4b994N/ZyXo8lTwmEfFTB+okDaiCA= Received: by 10.54.16.2 with SMTP id 2mr75620wrp; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.63 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:08:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a050113000820c7b815@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:08:45 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.233.184.204 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:55:11 -0000, ernie wrote: > > ihave about 25 fanzines and want to know where i can get a rough > idea of the value of them > > > Are you thinking of selling? I'm always interested in any Fanzines I don't have. As for value, I have no idea. Ric Croxton From tmhamilton@aol.com Thu Jan 13 05:13:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37155 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2005 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.8b.1e9bf1d0 (1320) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:09:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8b.1e9bf1d0.2f17cd03@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:09:23 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 1200 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.3 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3364560 X-Yahoo-Profile: juliusschwartz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 2:05:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, yelir1182000@yahoo.com writes: >ihave about 25 fanzines and want to know where i can get a rough >idea of the value of them I too would be interested in seeing your list. I don't know of any comprehensive price guide for them, but I recall that the Overstreet Guide for Original Art has some listed; this would be several years old, though. You may also want to check and see what they're going for on Ebay. It really depends on what you have. I would be glad to take a look at your list and give some guesses, if you'd like. Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Jan 13 06:48:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 873 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2005 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.40) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2005 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.140] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2005 14:48:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:48:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 4477 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.40 From: "Ian Shires" X-Originating-IP: 69.173.21.212 Subject: SPA Idol returning... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038 X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Some things to get excited about: SMALL PRESS IDOL 2005 For the second year, Dimestore will be hosting the SPI=20 contest, and this year we are going to be upping the ante just a=20 bit. Last year's contest was a solid learning experience for all=20 involved, and this year, we're going to have a bit more focus on=20 Story and Characters, as well as a larger prize. We're going to have=20 as grand prize a 4-issue commitment to sponsor and print a series=20 based on the winning concept. We're planning on having all finalists=20 (the top 5-6 depending) do a 4-page strip for a special issue of=20 Mysterious Visions as part of the contest. Final set-up and deadline=20 schedule is still in the works, but we wanted to get the word out=20 for artist/writer individuals and teams to start getting their ideas=20 together=85the contest will officially begin the week after the Super=20 Bowl, as it did last year. The SPA has moved since last year, Dimestore is now on a=20 dedicated server, and we have a completely different forum system in=20 place now. Testing confirms that it's much faster-loading and cross- browser and operating system friendly. We also have the section that=20 the contest is in set up so that guests can vote in the polls, so=20 that we can have a slightly different voting situation than last=20 year. To post and comment, however, you'll need to sign up on the=20 new forum. Here's the section to bookmark for following this year's=20 competition:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Community/forum/forum_topics.asp? FID=3D19 Feel free to start asking some questions about things =96 we=20 want to make this contest as much what the fans want to see as=20 possible. MYSTERIOUS VISIONS ANTHOLOGY 2004 winners Michael Hutchison and Phil Meadows will be the=20 lead feature in this new series, being printed soon! Their Metro Med=20 strip leads a solid cast, including Philip Clark with a Quantum 4- pager, a strip by Dan Sehn, and a 6-pager by Kevin Gleason. Watch=20 for this soon, everywhere we can get it into! #2 will follow with=20 last year's runner up (who lost in the last seconds by just a few=20 votes!) Fly Guy as the lead story. NEW LISTING/REVIEW SYSTEM Those that have been following the development of The Guide=20 and it's distribution system, will be pleased to hear that we've=20 completely revamped and changed policy on how and when you get=20 listed. Previously, you had to wait till we printed your review in=20 the magazine before it would appear online. But what this did as=20 more and more publishers came in, was create a backlog of things to=20 get in that we've been unable to do in a timely fashion. So, here at=20 the start of this new year, we're reversing that policy, and have=20 set up a whole new listing/review system. Books will appear in the=20 online pages the minute they are approved, and reviews will follow=20 just as soon as one of our reviewers complete a review. The whole=20 system has been automated, and is ready to roll. So if you have=20 books for sale and that you want reviewed, here's your new spot to=20 go to get them available in our shopping system:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Guide/Submitting.asp=20 DIMESTORE'S EBAY INITIATIVE This item is for the publishers out there who are looking=20 for an online distribution system that can really drive sales of=20 their books. We took great pains over the fall season to get our=20 advanced shopping cart system working. The cart's great, we can=20 offer members a discount casual browsers don't get, and we can offer=20 retailers the discount they need to sell books in their stores. The=20 cart tracks the inventory that we have in stock, and allows for back=20 ordering so we can go to the publisher to get the books needed. Not=20 being satisfied with just that, there's an ADD-ON to the shopping=20 cart which automates the population of an e-bay store with all of=20 the products of your database and inventory, making =96 in our set up,=20 a hugely visible avenue for bringing in new readers to small=20 press/indy comics. Basically, all we have to do is figure out how to=20 afford the add =96on, and the SPA is having discussions on that=20 subject here:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/Community/forum/forum_posts.asp? TID=3D89&PN=3D1=20 So, that's a glimpse into what's coming up from the SPA,=20 hope to see lots of new faces participating in the Idol contest, and=20 I'm around to answer any questions/follow up on anything. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions P.O. Box 214 Madison, OH 44057 www.dimestoreproductions.com From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Jan 13 08:37:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 21733 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2005 16:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2005 16:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.139) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 16:37:20 -0000 Received: from storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id D4ABAD638 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id IAA12735; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:37:13 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQF5CkV/zRfxMtfeGA/zXiZ9XV+owIUDKETfrQXAcgtOOEkoks4rOde1xE= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:37:13 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <7622-41E6A3B9-2535@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 13 Jan 2005 13:59:34 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 209.240.205.139 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Fanzine Values X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 One of the best ways, today, to get an idea of the value of any offbeat item, is to, over a period of weeks, do searches on similar items at Ebay, and see what they wind up selling for. From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Thu Jan 13 18:24:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57490 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 02:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2005 02:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.101) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 02:24:58 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (gso31-118-226.triad.rr.com [24.31.118.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j0E2Op4R002599 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:51 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <1105624774.217.19608.m12@yahoogroups.com> References: <1105624774.217.19608.m12@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7804FB81-65D3-11D9-8059-000D93AFDD54@triad.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:51 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 24.25.9.101 From: Chris Wallace Subject: Re: Fanzines... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 I have a Comic Art price book that has a section on fanzines. I have purchased a bunch myself and think the list isn't very accurate. I would be glad to price up what you have based on what I have seen and purchased if you like. Take care. Chris -fan of fanzines... On Jan 13, 2005, at 8:59 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > ihave about 25 fanzines and want to know where i can get a rough > idea of the value of them From yelir1182000@yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 21:37:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98252 invoked by uid 7800); 14 Jan 2005 05:37:29 -0000 X-Sender: yelir1182000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42598 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 02:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2005 02:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web60807.mail.yahoo.com) (216.155.196.70) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 02:35:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 48243 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 02:35:21 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=xOX40ZXraY1rn+IpOsY+i3kQAKilYbRbcRKAcVaEBvEEZvxaKQPxbcuH+uhB9Ziknv+g0+xMxHb+L9G+u74S9feGQIixO5FGEQD5Cs8BSnTZxStoazAkgsYzqKVCBZqa2/VDvbsjbHjJK0kw+fzvxAuWp9PaDNEdQOLIaxJWt28= ; Message-ID: <20050114023521.48241.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.16.213.22] by web60807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:35:21 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:35:21 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <7804FB81-65D3-11D9-8059-000D93AFDD54@triad.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 216.155.196.70 From: ernest riley Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fanzines... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=165722162 X-Yahoo-Profile: yelir1182000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 14 Jan 2005 05:37:29 -0000 Chris Wallace wrote: I have a Comic Art price book that has a section on fanzines. I have purchased a bunch myself and think the list isn't very accurate. I would be glad to price up what you have based on what I have seen and purchased if you like. Take care. Chris -fan of fanzines... that would be real nice of you i am thinking of putting them on ebay but would like a start price.i have been selling all my comics archives etc becaus my wife and i hope to get in a senior home next year or so and room would be at a premium thanks if you can do it without a lot of work NH ernie the worlds oldest kid On Jan 13, 2005, at 8:59 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > ihave about 25 fanzines and want to know where i can get a rough > idea of the value of them --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tmhamilton@aol.com Sat Feb 05 10:28:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: tmhamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31997 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2005 18:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2005 18:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.49) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2005 18:28:48 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n20.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2005 18:28:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.73] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2005 18:28:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:28:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 439 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.49 From: "juliusschwartz" X-Originating-IP: 205.188.117.8 Subject: CBM Folding Print Version X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3364560 X-Yahoo-Profile: juliusschwartz Over on Gemstone's SCOOP site, it's announced that CBM and Overstreet's Price Guide Update are ending their print versions, and will merge into an online magazine. Too bad, although CBM lost a lot of appeal when Gary Carter left. The justification for the move is interesting. They cite Scoop's 138,00 subscribers vs. CBM's few thousand as a reason to move online. Of course, Scoop is free, so there's quite a difference! Tom From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Feb 05 10:39:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44019 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2005 18:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2005 18:39:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2005 18:39:20 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.1e1.353422b0 (17228) for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:39:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1e1.353422b0.2f366ccd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:39:09 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.188.157.38 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] CBM Folding Print Version X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/5/2005 10:29:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, tmhamilton@aol.com writes: Over on Gemstone's SCOOP site, it's announced that CBM and Overstreet's Price Guide Update are ending their print versions, and will merge into an online magazine. Too bad, although CBM lost a lot of appeal when Gary Carter left. The justification for the move is interesting. They cite Scoop's 138,00 subscribers vs. CBM's few thousand as a reason to move online. Of course, Scoop is free, so there's quite a difference! Sorry to hear that. Online magazines have just never appealed to me and I rarely look at any of them. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From neetstuff@mindspring.com Sat Feb 05 19:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23807 invoked by uid 7800); 6 Feb 2005 03:19:44 -0000 X-Sender: neetstuff@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57314 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2005 18:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2005 18:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.36) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2005 18:34:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2005 18:34:44 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.82] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2005 18:34:44 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:34:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 321 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.36 From: "Sasha Keen" X-Originating-IP: 67.101.128.93 Subject: Vintage RBCC X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7831745 X-Yahoo-Profile: neetorama X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 6 Feb 2005 03:19:44 -0000 Hello, I hope this is appropriate. I am purging my collection so I recently listed a bunch of vintage G.B. Love RBCC/ComicColletor fanzines on ebay, if you are interested please check out my listing at: http://tinyurl.com/54ta Thanks for the opppurtunity to mention this. Sasha QualityComicsAmerica www.neetstuff.com From nova64@mchsi.com Thu Feb 10 22:34:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98051 invoked by uid 7800); 11 Feb 2005 06:34:19 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50372 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2005 03:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2005 03:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.37) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2005 03:57:02 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2005 03:56:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2005 03:56:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:56:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 321 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.37 From: "Doug" X-Originating-IP: 12.217.209.102 Subject: Interested in a possible trade... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796 X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 11 Feb 2005 06:34:19 -0000 I am currently looking for issues #3, #4, and #7 of Super Adventures (in good condition) which were published by Marv Wolfman. I would be willing to trade Super Adventures #1 and #2 for the three of them. Both are in very good condition. If anyone is interested, please contact me at nova64@mchsi.com. Thanks! Doug From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Sun Feb 13 08:31:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57828 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2005 16:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2005 16:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n22a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.51) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2005 16:31:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n22.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2005 16:31:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.99] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2005 16:31:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:30:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1114 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.51 From: "Chris" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.118.226 Subject: Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 As I type this, I am looking at a commission piece I had done (by Mike Vosburg) of the Cowl. My copy of Masquerader 6 set in motion my getting in contact with Mike and having this done. I have always been a huge fan of Ronn Foss and bought anything with his art in it. His work in Scary Monsters made me happy that he was still contributing and making art. After his death, I contacted Mike and he was very enthusiastic about doing this character and talking about Ronn a bit. The piece has an inset with the 'classic' Ronn- with-pipe, looking as young and distinguished as ever. Mike told me this was a bit cathartic for him as he had some problems with one of Ronn's family after his death. Mike also sent me a fanzine lovers dream of original handwritten letters (complete with doodles of himself and the Cowl!), original roughs by Ronn and some other items that will probably be buried with me. Ha! The Voz is a class act all the way. I hope to have another scanner soon and will post some of these in the files if anyone is interested. Anyone else like Ronn? Take care! Chris -ramblin' man From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun Feb 13 10:52:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20028 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2005 18:52:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2005 18:52:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.206) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2005 18:52:34 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so602681wri for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:52:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PshelHVGRPnVsFXV3/+P921GpIe/Pq+totfz1BxLEj9+n9FgC14lo+UBrRqAqKYqx/xRQVLBz21SfDjQRqpKYLHqxvn/1G3SBSi1POh+9PZhNb/zioB4uEM/uU9I3Ou2jzcM1nYPK9WfzyJqJX+g3yN1a8SEJkeJIKiJjdK/nZo= Received: by 10.54.36.22 with SMTP id j22mr199328wrj; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.18 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:52:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a050213105228fc1c53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:52:33 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.233.184.206 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Chris, Does this mean you are doing a fanzine? If so I'd be interested in buying. Ric On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:30:57 -0000, Chris wrote: > > As I type this, I am looking at a commission piece I had done (by Mike > Vosburg) of the > Cowl. My copy of Masquerader 6 set in motion my getting in contact with > Mike and > having this done. I have always been a huge fan of Ronn Foss and bought > anything with > his art in it. His work in Scary Monsters made me happy that he was still > contributing and > making art. After his death, I contacted Mike and he was very enthusiastic > about doing > this character and talking about Ronn a bit. The piece has an inset with > the 'classic' Ronn- > with-pipe, looking as young and distinguished as ever. > Mike told me this was a bit cathartic for him as he had some problems with > one of Ronn's > family after his death. > Mike also sent me a fanzine lovers dream of original handwritten letters > (complete with > doodles of himself and the Cowl!), original roughs by Ronn and some other > items that will > probably be buried with me. Ha! > The Voz is a class act all the way. > I hope to have another scanner soon and will post some of these in the files > if anyone is > interested. > Anyone else like Ronn? > Take care! > Chris > -ramblin' man > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! 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From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Wed Feb 16 14:32:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51161 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2005 22:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2005 22:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.47) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2005 22:32:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n18.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2005 22:30:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.82] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2005 22:30:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:30:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <10390f8a050213105228fc1c53@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 337 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.47 From: "Chris" X-Originating-IP: 24.31.118.226 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Well, It actually never occured to me but I do have enough material to put out something I think old-school fanzine fans and newbies trying to catch up would all like. Hhmmmmm...... Let me get back to you. Chris -by the way, do ya like Ronn? > > Does this mean you are doing a fanzine? If so I'd be interested in buying. > > Ric From ric.croxton@gmail.com Thu Feb 17 09:54:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1013 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2005 17:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2005 17:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.204) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2005 17:54:09 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so341316wri for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:54:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FQ/zZORJe+flCEhz4gn0RTpkreX9jc4uOmgde7QW0NRkBvuwPAFzuQkfe4KNEaOA/fegMXqvMwb+BC7iCaZRvvqLUUx/XuYkyeuIZYqv394ZAN2ZlrbbdtMXsm5Qb9yYMq9n91GqpvBf/mBuglFvoXanKYVkb7qhWd9KHOc29V4= Received: by 10.54.31.15 with SMTP id e15mr34932wre; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.18 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:54:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a0502170954446d0d7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:54:08 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <10390f8a050213105228fc1c53@mail.gmail.com> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.233.184.204 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139 X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:30:09 -0000, Chris wrote: > > Well, > It actually never occured to me but I do have enough material to put out > something I think > old-school fanzine fans and newbies trying to catch up would all like. > Hhmmmmm...... > Let me get back to you. > > Chris Sounds great, looking forward to hearing more. Ric From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Feb 17 10:34:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 56465 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2005 18:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2005 18:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2005 18:33:54 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.24.6ad0df75 (24895) for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:29:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <24.6ad0df75.2f463c9e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:29:50 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 1201 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.4 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a new fanzine I'm publishing so I thought I'd post the info here since it does include a comics article, on Gil Kane's Blackmark.--James Van Hise Modern Robert E. Howard fandom is on the rise and I've decided to add my own contribution in the form of the 84 page, 8 1/2 x 11 (side-stapled) fanzine SWORD & FANTASY, edited and published by James Van Hise. The full color cover is by Roy Krenkel. Articles include detailed guides to several classic Robert E. Howard fanzines (CROSS PLAINS, LONE STAR FICTIONEER, etc). I also have a detailed look the Robert E. Howard story "Valley of the Worm." There is also the transcript to the Wandering Star Robert E. Howard panel (which I was on) from the 2002 San Diego Comicon. Plus I'm featuring my 7,000 word article on Karl Edward Wagner's KANE series wherein I review and examine every published Kane story Wagner wrote. I also take a detailed look at Gil Kane's classic sword & sorcery comic BLACKMARK. Plus I reprint IN MEMORIAM: ROBERT E. HOWARD from the September 1936 issue of FANTASY MAGAZINE. Issue #1 is now available for $12.00 plus $6.00 priority mail, $2.00 media mail or outside the US add $9.00 Global Priority mail. Paypal to _Jimvanhise@aol.com_ (mailto:Jimvanhise@aol.com) or send to James Van Hise, 57754 Onaga Trail, Yucca Valley, CA 92284 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun May 01 14:16:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91904 invoked by uid 7800); 1 May 2005 21:16:09 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43692 invoked from network); 1 May 2005 20:34:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2005 20:34:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.56) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 20:34:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n27.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2005 20:34:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.85] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2005 20:34:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:34:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <24.6ad0df75.2f463c9e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 408 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.203.70.41 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Fantuccio, John G. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558 X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 1 May 2005 21:16:09 -0000 Does anyone know anything about John G.? He had the most remarkable style. I recall he did one Warren story and then I never saw his work again. It would be wonderful if some kind soul scanned some of his masterpieces. HIS was artwork that could ONLY have been printed in comics fandom. He was certainly professional. But so odd. Marvelously odd. And he wasn't underground. The only place he fit was fandom. From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun May 01 14:16:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3955 invoked by uid 7800); 1 May 2005 21:16:29 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60700 invoked from network); 1 May 2005 20:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2005 20:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.60) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 20:45:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n31.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2005 20:45:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.71] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2005 20:45:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:45:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <24.6ad0df75.2f463c9e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 509 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.203.70.41 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: ...and R. Kline! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558 X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 1 May 2005 21:16:29 -0000 I actually do see one tiny scan of a Fantuccio RBCC cover. And one by Kline. I'd forgotten him. He was great...an unique too. Now, NEWTON went on to pro-dom. I wonder what happened to these two. They can't possibly be as good as I remember them, can they? I remember that Strnad and Kline put out a B&W comic (just one issue?) with 3 SF stories. It was wonderful. I remember Kline as looking a bit like Walt Kelly. Not much. A new pub from James Van? Any fan shd be delighted to hear that! Good luck, James! From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun May 01 14:39:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55391 invoked from network); 1 May 2005 21:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2005 21:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 21:39:17 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id r.92.25fd15dc (4592) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <92.25fd15dc.2fa6a682@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:39:14 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 1201 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] ...and R. Kline! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/1/2005 2:17:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, LINCOLNyaco@aol.com writes: I actually do see one tiny scan of a Fantuccio RBCC cover. And one by Kline. I'd forgotten him. He was great...an unique too. Now, NEWTON went on to pro-dom. I wonder what happened to these two. They can't possibly be as good as I remember them, can they? I remember that Strnad and Kline put out a B&W comic (just one issue?) with 3 SF stories. It was wonderful. I remember Kline as looking a bit like Walt Kelly. Not much. John Fantucchio was a commercial artist interested in comics. I've been in touch with him but he doesn't do fan art any more, and even though he was cordial, he didn't want to do an interview, though he has no problem with me reprinting his art in RBCC. Robert Kline works in animation. The new publication I'm doing is SWORD & FANTASY (borrowing the title from a one shot reprint mag G.B. Love and I did 30 years ago, but the new version has new material in it, too.)-- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Mon May 02 15:14:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5821 invoked from network); 2 May 2005 22:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2005 22:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.137) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2005 22:14:45 -0000 Received: from storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 60040D607 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id PAA18962; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQF8boTXL5dXVHF1NSrvVhuaOPTuwIUbuTo2grn2X1OcvGsGScBgNNxSsE= Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:14:34 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <3996-4276A64A-339@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 2 May 2005 11:24:13 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 493 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 "Kline," way back in the '70s, went on to a great career, in animation, at Filmation Studios (STA TREK, NEW ADVENTURES OF BATMAN, TARZAN....), where his title was something like Art Director. 'Don't know what he's been up to, since the early '80s... From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Mon May 23 19:55:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70463 invoked from network); 24 May 2005 02:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 May 2005 02:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.28) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2005 02:55:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n14.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2005 02:55:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.99] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2005 02:55:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 02:55:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <10390f8a0502170954446d0d7a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1403 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.28 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.163.19.107 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573 X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Okay, I am well on my way with my fanzine project! A tremendous idea for a fanzine popped into my slack little mind and I think everyone will like it. We have an indigo press at work now that can print whatever I can come up with, so it is looking more and more like a do- able thing. Need help though. I plan to print as many fanzine covers and I can squeeze in and wondered if anyone has a bunch of decent quality scans I could use? I want to print as many runs as possible. Don't think this has been done much. Handy-dandy reference guide. I am looking for Comiccollector 1-7,9,12, Rocket's Blast 17,22-27,Rbcc 122-140, Star Studded Comics 1 and 5, Komix 1, Golden Age 3, Hero 1-3, Heroes Hangout 1-3,6, Sense of Wonder 3-11, and a slew of others. I have a lot but am minus a home scanner at the moment. Interview, never-seen art (really!) If ya have a bunch and I use 'em, ya gets a free copy. To prove I am legit, please see Alter Ego #48 page 34, where I share article-space with Stan Lee and Gene Colan. Autographed copies can be had.... ...heh. Thanks, Chris - > > Well, > > It actually never occured to me but I do have enough material to put out > > something I think > > old-school fanzine fans and newbies trying to catch up would all like. > > Hhmmmmm...... > > Let me get back to you. > > > > Chris > > Sounds great, looking forward to hearing more. > > Ric From spider63@bellsouth.net Tue May 24 05:58:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49820 invoked by uid 7800); 24 May 2005 12:58:48 -0000 X-Sender: spider63@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 83646 invoked from network); 24 May 2005 08:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 May 2005 08:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.69) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 May 2005 08:27:40 -0000 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([65.9.70.11]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524082740.VARJ2486.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:27:40 -0400 Received: from yesrelayer ([65.9.70.11]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with SMTP id <20050524082728.UDYK24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@yesrelayer> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:27:28 -0400 Message-ID: <005f01c5603b$248d3ca0$6101a8c0@yesrelayer> To: References: Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 04:32:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Originating-IP: 205.152.59.69 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "spider" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=209208011 X-Yahoo-Profile: nooyawka63 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 24 May 2005 12:58:48 -0000 From: "Chris" <> Okay, I am well on my way with my fanzine project! > Good luck! Do you have a website? Maybe some of them can be e-mailed to you as photos? Al Action Figure & Vehicle Photo Review Website: http://actionheroes.homestead.com/ From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sat May 28 08:46:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92400 invoked by uid 7800); 28 May 2005 15:46:31 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 973 invoked from network); 28 May 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.57) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2005 15:28:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n28.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2005 15:28:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.68] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2005 15:28:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:28:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 358 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.57 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.137.84.44 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: Announcing: the new BPP Website!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=mdgCydh59qB3Ghpcvau-LIRa8RNSRN9AiZqed-PdIIAW3N6FI6Q X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 28 May 2005 15:46:31 -0000 There's a new BPP Website out there that I hope folks will check out: http://groups.msn.com/BluePlaquePublications If you publish small press comics, you might find this interesting, at least we hope so. The BPP has 3 websites, and links to all 3 are at the new site. Check it out if you get the chance! --Steve From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Sat May 28 23:48:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64621 invoked from network); 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.43) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:48:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005f01c5603b$248d3ca0$6101a8c0@yesrelayer> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 330 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.43 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.163.19.107 From: "Chris" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Just ramblin'... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573; y=UjQxG2NiEf_aRG-XJsH7xyc6pIO0rgxEmZ0dS-2Cj7GmhcEYtmM X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Alas no website. Yousendit.com is a good alternative or if you like I can send you my email address. Thanks much! Chris -man with a plan... > Good luck! Do you have a website? Maybe some of them can be e-mailed to you > as photos? > > Al > > Action Figure & Vehicle Photo Review Website: > http://actionheroes.homestead.com/ From ditko37@rogers.com Sat Jun 04 11:44:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88799 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2005 18:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2005 18:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2005 18:44:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26520 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2005 18:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2005 18:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: <42A1F665.3030200@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:43:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Voice of Comicdom #4 with Ditko letter X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=XrwvRqi_cwkDT00uztmYFfWYNGzUql-LsdXTBnaXipAu X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Hi everyone. I was unaware that VoC #4 had a letter printed from Steve Ditko. Does anyone have this issue and could someone please send me a scan of the letter? Here's the e-bay auction that talks to it... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3967&item=6535353011 SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From phuncrew@lansingsucks.com Fri Jul 15 13:52:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 43535 invoked by uid 7800); 15 Jul 2005 20:52:17 -0000 X-Sender: phuncrew@lansingsucks.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 76472 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.60) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.65] by n7.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by mailer2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2005 20:03:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:03:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 417 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 168.253.23.18 From: "the mighty phun crew" Subject: looking for comix, zines and DIY projects for our denver shop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=138307771; y=cMMKIi2V5czfZ5HEcjG8i0FqQHhH0IPCcV8XMUSln82JpPY X-Yahoo-Profile: phuncrew X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 15 Jul 2005 20:52:17 -0000 hi, just re-opening the IronFeather Book & Zine Shop in a large location and looking for fresh zines, comix & DIY projects. make contact or send 3 copies with inventory, costs and contact infos. we can only do consignment right now. Thanks. Stevyn Prothero IronFeather Book & Zine Shop 4931 West 38th ave Denver , Colorado, 80212 usa (720)366-9293 hrs: tues-sat noon-6pm email : stevyn@ironfeather.com cheers From tacapollo@peoplepc.com Wed Jul 20 20:35:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51094 invoked by uid 7800); 21 Jul 2005 03:35:49 -0000 X-Sender: TACAPOLLO@peoplepc.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35497 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2005 20:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2005 20:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dickinson.mail.atl.earthlink.net) (207.69.200.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2005 20:18:50 -0000 Received: from 0-1pool133-7.nas73.washington1.dc.us.da.qwest.net ([63.235.133.7] helo=computer.peoplepc.com) by dickinson.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1DvL1j-0004Qn-00 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:18:48 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050720151530.02ba35d0@127.0.0.1> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:16:44 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.69.200.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Terry Subject: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=193971132; y=ydzyOBD406175x2OYYRLpN5TdsbU0LAODPZSGK72ARvqA8lL X-Yahoo-Profile: tacapollo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 21 Jul 2005 03:35:49 -0000 I read this sad announcement and thought I would share it with all Sci-fi fans. Although I was never a big fan of Star Trek, he truly made his mark in science fiction as well as modern pop culture. One of the most amazing things I discovered is at the end of the article. Check out his age at the time of the birth of his last child (or children, it's not really clear)! Star Trek' Star James Doohan Dies [Wednesday, July 20, 2005 LOS ANGELES - James Doohan, the burly chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise in the original "Star Trek" TV series and movies who responded to the command "Beam me up, Scotty," died Wednesday. He was 85. Doohan died at 5:30 a.m. at his Redmond, Wash., home with his wife of 28 years, Wende, at his side, Los Angeles agent and longtime friend Steve Stevens said. The cause of death was pneumonia and Alzheimer's disease, he said. He had said farewell to public life in August 2004, a few months after being diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease. The Canadian-born Doohan was enjoying a busy career as a character actor when he auditioned for a role as an engineer in a new space adventure on NBC in 1966. A master of dialects from his early years in radio, he tried seven different accents. "The producers asked me which one I preferred," Doohan recalled 30 years later. "I believed the Scot voice was the most commanding. So I told them, 'If this character is going to be an engineer, you'd better make him a Scotsman.'" The series, which starred William Shatner as Capt. James T. Kirk and Leonard Nimoy as the enigmatic Mr. Spock, attracted an enthusiastic following of science fiction fans, especially among teenagers and children, but not enough ratings power. NBC canceled it after three seasons. When the series ended in 1969, Doohan found himself typecast as Montgomery Scott, the canny engineer with a burr in his voice. In 1973, he complained to his dentist, who advised him: "Jimmy, you're going to be Scotty long after you're dead. If I were you, I'd go with the flow." "I took his advice," said Doohan, "and since then everything's been just lovely." "Star Trek" continued in syndication both in the United States and abroad, and its following grew larger and more dedicated. In his later years, Doohan attended 40 "Trekkie" gatherings around the country and lectured at colleges. The huge success of George Lucas' "Star Wars" in 1977 prompted Paramount Pictures, which had produced "Star Trek" for television, to plan a movie based on the series. The studio brought back the TV cast and hired director Robert Wise. "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was successful enough to spawn five sequels. The powerfully built Doohan, a veteran of D-Day in Normandy, spoke frankly in 1998 about his employer and his TV commander. "I started out in the series at basic minimum- plus 10 percent for my agent. That was added a little bit in the second year. When we finally got to our third year, Paramount told us we'd get second-year pay! That's how much they loved us." He accused Shatner of hogging the camera, adding: "I like Captain Kirk, but I sure don't like Bill. He's so insecure that all he can think about is himself." James Montgomery Doohan was born March 3, 1920, in Vancouver, British Columbia, youngest of four children of William Doohan, a pharmacist, veterinarian and dentist, and his wife Sarah. As he wrote in his autobiography, "Beam Me Up, Scotty," his father was a drunk who made life miserable for his wife and children. At 19, James escaped the turmoil at home by joining the Canadian army, becoming a lieutenant in artillery. He was among the Canadian forces that landed on Juno Beach on D-Day. "The sea was rough," he recalled. "We were more afraid of drowning than the Germans." The Canadians crossed a minefield laid for tanks; the soldiers weren't heavy enough to detonate the bombs. At 11:30 that night, he was machine-gunned, taking six hits: one that took off his middle right finger (he managed to hide the missing finger on screen), four in his leg and one in the chest. Fortunately the chest bullet was stopped by his silver cigarette case. After the war Doohan on a whim enrolled in a drama class in Toronto. He showed promise and won a two-year scholarship to New York's famed Neighborhood Playhouse, where fellow students included Leslie Nielsen, Tony Randall and Richard Boone. His commanding presence and booming voice brought him work as a character actor in films and television, both in Canada and the United States. Oddly, his only other TV series besides "Star Trek" was another space adventure, "Space Command," in 1953. Doohan's first marriage to Judy Doohan produced four children. He had two children by his second marriage to Anita Yagel. Both marriages ended in divorce. In 1974 he married Wende Braunberger, and their children were Eric, Thomas and Sarah, who was born in 2000, when Doohan was 80. In a 1998 interview, Doohan was asked if he ever got tired of hearing the line "Beam me up, Scotty." "I'm not tired of it at all," he replied. "Good gracious, it's been said to me for just about 31 years. It's been said to me at 70 miles an hour across four lanes on the freeway. I hear it from just about everybody. It's been fun." Terry Craig Check out my auctions at: http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/user/tacapollo? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Jul 21 15:00:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3116 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2005 22:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jul 2005 22:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.45) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2005 22:00:51 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n16.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2005 22:00:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.77] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2005 22:00:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:00:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 9138 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.45 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 209.240.205.61 From: "jimburns1999" Subject: Byron Preiss, R.I.P. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=EC4g2vyzO_KsluhEcBOulhi3dXEguM7er8hEZ5qXHY2kCtllgnds X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 I was stunned, when surfing the web last night, to learn that Byron Preiss = had died, in an auto accident, a week-and-a-half ago. Perhaps this is old = news, but I was surprised that no one mentioned this, here. Here's a memorial from my old editor, Jim Steranko. COMICS LOSES ONE OF ITS MAJOR VISIONARIES: BYRON PREISS BY JIM STERANKO Around noon on July 9, 2005, writer-editor-developer-publisher Byron Preiss= was involved in a fatal auto accident as he drove to his synagogue in Long= Island, New York-and American popular culture lost one of its most product= ive and visionary champions.=20 For more than three decades, he spearheaded a multiplicity of mediaforms, f= rom comics and ebooks to electronic games and CD-ROMs, that fused words and= images like few other individuals would achieve in the entertainment arts.= As an author, he generated dozens of books, from hard science and history = volumes to profusely-illustrated children's literature. As a packager, he p= roduced a stream of quality fiction and nonfiction titles for almost every = primary publishing house, including HarperCollins, Penguin Putnam, Simon & = Schuster, Random House, Rizzoli, Scholastic, and Oxford University Press, i= n addition to developing projects with numerous institutions, including Mic= rosoft, Forbes/American Heritage, Fox Interactive, Comedy Central, MSNBC, I= max, Scientific American, the Grand Ole Opry, and Yahoo!.=20 Born in Brooklyn in 1953, he subsequently attended the University of Pennsy= lvania (graduating magne cum laude) and received his master's degree from t= he Stanford Film School. I met him in1969 at a Manhattan convention, a tall= , handsome kid with perfect teeth and thick, black hair who radiated enthus= iasm like a human atomic reactor. He recounted his publishing dream so conv= incingly that I agreed to create some art for his first venture, a fan cale= ndar, just to give his budding career a jump start.=20 Neither of us realized that our connection was the beginning of a friendshi= p that would grow, ferment, agitate, evolve, bluster, and ultimately endure= for the next 35 years. He was my best friend and confidant for more than h= alf my lifetime=97and his presence had a profound impact on me, professiona= lly and personally. One of our earliest projects involved an anti-drug comicbook that he concei= ved for near-illiterate grade school students (he was teaching at a Philade= lphia elementary facility at the time). On a zero budget, we produced THE B= LOCK, the tale of two inner-city brothers who choose to walk different path= s, which was distributed citywide and met with exceptional success with bot= h educators and students (some classes colored the panels, others read it a= loud, and one even transformed the story into a rock opera). Preiss promote= d it from New York City to Atlanta, achieving solid student acceptance and = continual praise from all who saw and used it, right up to the majors at Se= same Street. The comic premiered in the summer of 1970, a year before the m= uch-heralded Spider-Man and Green Lantern-Green Arrow drug mags. Over the next few years, we spoke often about the future of comics, discuss= ion which became the architectural foundation of his initial 1974 publishin= g venture, Byron Preiss Visual Publications (and recently ibooks), and a se= ries of books that were the first to use the terms "visual novel" and "grap= hic novel"). My hardboiled detective thriller RED TIDE was one of his offer= ings. Preiss was the first to regularly and continuously publish adult, boo= k-length comic-panel novels by the field's top creators. His recent effort,= Joe Kubert's Nazi concentration camp epic YOSSEL stands as positive tribut= e to Preiss' unyielding vision and belief in the form, as does his 2005 Har= vey Awards win for Best American Edition of Foreign Material for BLACKSAD 2= . Preiss was also a business partner of Komikwerks, LLC. The company eventually published an extensive range of material, including = many authored and co-authored by Preiss, such as:=20 1973 The Electric Company Joke Book 1973 The Silent "E"'s from Outer Space=20 1976 One Year Affair 1977 Weird Heroes (several volumes of pulp-related stories illustrated by t= op comics artists)=20 1977 Son of Sherlock Holmes 1979 Dragonworld=20 1979 The Beach Boys 1981 The Art of Leo and Diane Dillon=20 1981 The Dinosaurs=20 1982 The First Crazy Word Book 1983 Not in Webster's Dictionary 1984 The Bat Family 1985 The Planets=20 1987 Paul Revere and the Boston Tea Party=20 1987 The Universe=20 1990 First Contact: The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence=97with Ben= Bova 1991 The Ultimate Dracula 1991 The Ultimate Frankenstein 1991 The Ultimate Werewolf 1992 The Vampire State Building 1993 The Ultimate Zombie, The 1993 The Ultimate Witch 1994 Instant American History 1995 The Ultimate Alien=20 1996 Best Children's Books in the World, The=20 1997 The Rhino History of Rock 'N Roll: the '70s with Eric Lefcowitz 1999 Are We Alone in the Cosmos?=20 2000 The New Dinosaurs 2003 The Ultimate Dragon=20 2003 The Ultimate Frankenstein 2003 The Little Blue Brontosaurus Additionally, he edited hundreds of others. Always on the leading edge of trends, he moved into interactive books, CD-R= OMs, virtual comics, and online entertainment, generating a staggering volu= me of product, including many Marvel-related items. His audiobook The Words= of Gandhi snared a Grammy Award in 1985. Often working under severe licensing, financial, deadline, and distribution= constraints, Preiss had an uncanny knack of believing in his product and h= is collaborative talent. He had a hands-on approach to every stage of produ= ction, a staggering juggling feat that blossomed into an operation so large= it eventually filled two floors of a mid-Manhattan skyscraper.=20 Nonetheless, hardly a week went by that we didn't connect in person or on t= he phone, often recalling the early days when I'd crash at his apartment fo= r a couple days and we'd strategize our futures at all-night skull sessions= at the Silver Star Diner on 3rd Avenue. During the next few decades, we al= ternated between practical jokes and serious soul searching. And somewhere = along the way, we became brothers.=20 We worked together constantly on a myriad of projects, many of which were h= ighly experimental in nature, not to mention risky=97and, in this case, the= risk was with his money. But he loved to break new ground, even if it took= a few layers of skin off his hide. I still recall his shock when I insiste= d I'd only work on THE ILLUSTRATED HARLAN ELLISON if the story was printed = in 3D (he purchased thousands of glasses and had them bound into the volume= s) or the Captain America book cover I wanted produced without any type bec= ause, I explained, my painted figure of Cap said it all in every language (= the volume had a phenomenal 89% sell-through) or the Wild Cards series titl= e I recommended be run upside down in gloss varnish (it could only be read = when angled toward the light, but was a knockout visual surprise). He backed them all and many others, some of which required him to go toe-to= -toe with printers, publishers, and distributors. Preiss took a sensible, c= ool, controlled approach to his proceedings, but I like to think I taught h= im a few things about fighting dirty to get the job done. We broke a few ru= les along the way and perhaps set a couple precedents, too. Unlike many pub= lishers who only talk the talk, Preiss walked the walk.=20 Although our evenings ultimately migrated to the Friar's Club, his dedicati= on to the work=97to the comics form and its creators=97not only remained st= eadfast, but relentless. He cited me as his mentor for graphic design and n= arrative technique, and, in similar fashion, passed the torch along to othe= rs by discovering new talent and giving them the opportunity to breakout wi= th showcase projects, in addition to supporting his favorite vets with ongo= ing assignments. He redefined the term loyalty. His recent line of celebrity-created children's=20 books includes contributions from Billy Crystal, Jerry Seinfeld, LeAnn Rime= s, Stephen Ambrose, Carl Reiner, Jane Goodall, Philip Caputo, Jay Leno, and= Stan Lee. Several months ago, I pitched a fantasy series in a revolutionar= y, new format to him and immediately received the green light. Now, that li= ght has dimmed. He married and had two beautiful daughters, who became the pride of his lif= e. And somewhere along the way, I became part of the family (I always thoug= ht I'd adopted him, which only proves how clever he was at making me believ= e that certain things were my ideas). Preiss was a subtle, yet seminal force in contemporary popular culture and = specifically in the evolution of narrative illustration. His vision will co= ntinue to inspire all those who knew him=97and those who found something sp= ecial in his work.=20 He is survived by his wife, Sandi, and daughters Karah and Blaire. Jim Steranko=20=20 =A9 2005 James Steranko From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jul 21 15:35:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87241 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2005 22:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jul 2005 22:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2005 22:35:04 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id r.1f1.400a9bd9 (57293) for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1f1.400a9bd9.30117d0f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:34:55 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5119 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Byron Preiss, R.I.P. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I saw it but decided to say nothing because, like many others, I've had bad dealings with Byron Preiss. Steranko deliberately left all that stuff out (such as Byron's serious problems with Marvel and Dark Horse, which were all Byron's fault). A few years ago there was a long thread on Comicon.com's message boards from people who'd been shafted by Byron's company. I expect when a decent amount of time has passed this will all come out. The Comics Journal wrote about some of it a few years ago when a deal Byron had with Dark Horse fell apart after he lied to people by claiming he was behind in payments because Dark Horse owed him money when in fact Dark Horse had paid him in advance for a book which was even then 2 years late being delivered, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I expect people (and there are many) are reluctant to be the first to go on a public message board and bad mouth someone who just died. After all, look at the stink that was raised when a bad story about Julius Schwartz was posted right after he died. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mgilbert00@comcast.net Fri Jul 22 06:32:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert00@comcast.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91998 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2005 13:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jul 2005 13:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc11.comcast.net) (204.127.202.55) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2005 13:32:51 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.27] (c-24-20-203-86.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.203.86]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005072213315801100qg9gje>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:31:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: <1122033386.580.62422.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1122033386.580.62422.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:31:57 -0700 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Originating-IP: 204.127.202.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Michael T. Gilbert" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 501 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=184343886; y=B4PEunlV0JVeSVK4i8CbvetqfuN1M2F67zEfBXu7aOiC4mz6dGc X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Still missed.... Best wishes, Michael T. On Jul 22, 2005, at 4:56 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:34:55 EDT > From: Jimvanhise@aol.com > Subject: Re: Byron Preiss, R.I.P. > > Yes, I saw it but decided to say nothing because, like many others, > I've had > bad dealings with Byron Preiss. Steranko deliberately left all that > stuff out > (such as Byron's serious problems with Marvel and Dark Horse, which > were all > Byron's fault). A few years ago there was a long thread on > Comicon.com's > message boards from people who'd been shafted by Byron's company. I > expect when a > decent amount of time has passed this will all come out. The Comics > Journal > wrote about some of it a few years ago when a deal Byron had with > Dark Horse fell > apart after he lied to people by claiming he was behind in payments > because > Dark Horse owed him money when in fact Dark Horse had paid him in > advance for a > book which was even then 2 years late being delivered, and that's > just the tip > of the iceberg. I expect people (and there are many) are reluctant > to be the > first to go on a public message board and bad mouth someone who > just died. > After all, look at the stink that was raised when a bad story about > Julius > Schwartz was posted right after he died. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From markburbey@earthlink.net Sat Jul 23 11:37:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12550 invoked by uid 7800); 23 Jul 2005 18:37:31 -0000 X-Sender: markburbey@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75385 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2005 18:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jul 2005 18:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.43) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2005 18:30:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2005 18:30:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.68] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2005 18:30:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:30:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 453 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.43 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.101.145.52 From: "Mark Burbey" Subject: Looking for Dave Kaler X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73330986; y=k8-hnByVkAXUsR83zPKUjT4H6jAP1dFqGg2BkN_owI1WYrs X-Yahoo-Profile: marksb12 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 23 Jul 2005 18:37:31 -0000 Hi, Some of you may have seen this on another group, but I'm writing an article for CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT #5 and I'd very much like to contact Dave Kaler, a well-known fan figure in the '60s and writer for Charlton and DC. If anyone knows where or how I can reach him, please contact me at markburbey@earthlink.net. Some have wondered if he's still "with us," and if someone can verify that one way or another, that would be helpful, too. Thanks, Mark From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Jul 31 20:08:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71052 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:08:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:08:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:08:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4926 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:08:16 -0000 Message-ID: <42ED928C.6040104@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:10:04 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=ugxuWRvXpwnIoPOfm7qPwSq00eHzagdXYbD15CL3Kt5z X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Hi everyone. Does someone have a chronology of the publishers of the COMIC READER? I thought Glen Johnson did the early issues, but in the opening column on issue #42, I see the name Derrill Rotherich (sp?) who seems to have been there for months. Anyone have a list of who published, at least up until Issue #42? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Jul 31 20:12:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 79868 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:12:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 26610 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:12:05 -0000 Message-ID: <42ED9372.6070805@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:13:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Was EPOCH #4 published in 1972 or 1973? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=9XiRJjUS3Qatfz2xdcIgRcHg4aLGiI7YoNFn5VqL2_CS X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan It has a MR. A illo. that has a copyright date of 1972, but I have info that says the issue was published in 1973. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Jul 31 20:36:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30190 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Aug 2005 03:36:56 -0000 X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42142 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:30:10 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1fd.6c6d53f (4238) for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1fd.6c6d53f.301ef12f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=FEjEOgnfTRmceiMLFr3159witfS39fQrc45gKQ09lK5N08GS X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 1 Aug 2005 03:36:56 -0000 Blake, Here it is: - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! - Glen Johnson 26-41 - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 - Paul Levitz 78-100 - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic Reader" ... -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: Hi everyone. Does someone have a chronology of the publishers of the COMIC READER? I thought Glen Johnson did the early issues, but in the opening column on issue #42, I see the name Derrill Rotherich (sp?) who seems to have been there for months. Anyone have a list of who published, at least up until Issue #42? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Jul 31 20:41:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6184 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:41:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.83) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 57090 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:41:41 -0000 Message-ID: <42ED9A60.8040009@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:43:28 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1fd.6c6d53f.301ef12f@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1fd.6c6d53f.301ef12f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.83 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=tyYj0wXoU8M2Jn950OBHkL5bYIq0SH9kF_IZiYPfJW8o X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > Blake, > > Here it is: > > - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing > Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector > zines. The > actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! > - Glen Johnson 26-41 > - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 Hi Aaron! Thanks so much for the list. I guess some of Rothermich's verbiage makes it sound like he had been around before issue #42. I guess he is also the person who took it to offset, from Glen's ditto run. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Jul 31 20:44:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60464 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:44:03 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1c2.2da41eed (4238) for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1c2.2da41eed.301ef475@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:43:49 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=LfeKeoV5AV5EYfyQkZXMFPBUAcGLWH8q3DTbLHvlZ-JOgVOd X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake, Yep, he also introduced the concept of "Covers" to TCR! -Aaron- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:41:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > Blake, > > Here it is: > > - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing > Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector > zines. The > actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! > - Glen Johnson 26-41 > - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 Hi Aaron! Thanks so much for the list. I guess some of Rothermich's verbiage makes it sound like he had been around before issue #42. I guess he is also the person who took it to offset, from Glen's ditto run. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Jul 31 20:52:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7035 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:52:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 03:52:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.79) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:52:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 43938 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 03:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 03:52:35 -0000 Message-ID: <42ED9CEF.3020807@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:54:23 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.79 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Who were the first to annoy Ditko in Comic Fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=LdFXVMyrhxqe3riQ_bU4p-42rgIf5Xs5D76SKwmdLtIJ X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan So here's the burning question of the day: In Bill Schelly's 2001 TwoMorrows book, "Sense of Wonder," Schelly tells the story about how he printed a Dr. Strange illo in Super-Heroes Anonymous #2 (Apr '65) and then received a letter from Ditko, where Ditko stated his displeasure as such: “You should not have assumed that the drawing I sent you was for publication. You should have asked my permission. This isn't the first time I've been treated inconsiderately by members of fandom, which is why I've stopped sending out drawings to fans.” Now, this is early '65! How much stuff have Ditko sent to fans that had been published? Here's my list of pre-SHA #2 publications that printed Ditko's material (so which one of these were the culprit?)... ALTER EGO #6: Mar '64 - Spider-man / Dr. Strange illo. & accompanying letter. - unlikely, given that it was Roy, and that Ditko did another for him in late '65. NYC COMICON PROGRAM #1: Sum ’64 – full page illos of SM/Dr. Strange (Bernie Bubnis) - quite possibly, given that the program was done as a "memorial" put out after the Con AURORA #5: 1964 – Dr. Strange cover (Fanzine - Len Wein) - possibly KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6: 1964 – Dr. Strange Spider-Man illo (Don Schank) - possibly COMIC READER #33: Jan ’65 – Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. (Glen Johnson) COMIC READER #35: Mar ’65 – article “Why Steve Ditko Likes Mort Meskin” (Glen Johnson) COMIC READER #36: Apr ’65 – cover Captain Atom (Glen Johnson) - unlikely if Ditko kept coming back to Johnson so many times So who annoyed Ditko? Bubnis? Wein? Schank? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Jul 31 21:47:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51277 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 04:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 04:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 04:47:40 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.f6.55a637f1 (4238) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 00:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 00:47:15 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who were the first to annoy Ditko in Comic Fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=9b_VdYj9ia2ePXFbAGv-hneK9r5OcS8q5GfPSPQs9bH7yA28 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blake, I've just pulled out my copy of Bernie Bubnis's 1964 Comicon Booklet=20 (published Aug 64) and the cover has a horribly traced Ditko cover. The iss= ue was=20 published using a spirit duplicator (ditto) and the entire issue is extreme= ly well=20 put together considering the times. Note that Ditko is prominantly featured= =20 on pg 2 as the first listed contributor! Hmmmm... But there is another full= =20 page pin-up of Dr Strange on page 26 by Ditko that looks pretty good, even = if it=20 was traced onto a ditto master. It is definitely possible that Ditko took=20 offense.=20 More likely the culprit is Schank's Komik Heroez, which was a horrible=20 crudzine in it's early issues. I have #'s 1, 4 and 7, but not #6 - while #7= is far=20 better than #4, Schank's production values were far from perfect, even in #= 7.=20 Never seen Len Wein's Aurora, but I hear it was a well produced fanzine, so= I=20 can't really comment here. -Aaron- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:53:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ditko37@rogers.com writes: So here's the burning question of the day: In Bill Schelly's 2001 TwoMorrows book, "Sense of Wonder," Schelly tells=20 the story about how he printed a Dr. Strange illo in Super-Heroes=20 Anonymous #2 (Apr '65) and then received a letter from Ditko, where=20 Ditko stated his displeasure as such: =E2=80=9CYou should not have assumed = that=20 the drawing I sent you was for publication. You should have asked my=20 permission. This isn't the first time I've been treated inconsiderately=20 by members of fandom, which is why I've stopped sending out drawings to=20 fans.=E2=80=9D Now, this is early '65! How much stuff have Ditko sent to fans that had=20 been published? Here's my list of pre-SHA #2 publications that printed=20 Ditko's material (so which one of these were the culprit?)... ALTER EGO #6: Mar '64 - Spider-man / Dr. Strange illo. & accompanying=20 letter. - unlikely, given that it was Roy, and that Ditko did another for him in=20 late '65. NYC COMICON PROGRAM #1: Sum =E2=80=9964 =E2=80=93 full page illos of SM/Dr.= Strange=20 (Bernie Bubnis) - quite possibly, given that the program was done as a "memorial" put=20 out after the Con AURORA #5: 1964 =E2=80=93 Dr. Strange cover (Fanzine - Len Wein) - possibly KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6: 1964 =E2=80=93 Dr. Strange Spider-Man illo (= Don=20 Schank) - possibly COMIC READER #33: Jan =E2=80=9965 =E2=80=93 Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. (G= len Johnson) COMIC READER #35: Mar =E2=80=9965 =E2=80=93 article =E2=80=9CWhy Steve Ditk= o Likes Mort Meskin=E2=80=9D=20 (Glen Johnson) COMIC READER #36: Apr =E2=80=9965 =E2=80=93 cover Captain Atom (Glen Johnso= n) - unlikely if Ditko kept coming back to Johnson so many times So who annoyed Ditko? Bubnis? Wein? Schank? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From TOMPSTEWART@MSN.COM Sun Jul 31 23:51:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73276 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 06:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 06:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.61.83) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 06:51:43 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:51:43 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by BAY102-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:51:43 +0000 X-Originating-Email: [tompstewart@msn.com] X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com User-Agent: MSN-for-Mac/2.0.1.2311 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:53:34 -0700 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <42ED9A60.8040009@rogers.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2005 06:51:43.0905 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A624110:01C59665] X-Originating-IP: 64.4.61.83 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Tom Stewart Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=196251741; y=eRlytnVL7lNmw8StBqy5pJPfoSU8xoMliplCayycUXpPFrJQiv4 X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Blake Bell?! I thought you were dead! Tom "the Comics Savant" Stewart http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm On 7/31/05 8:43 PM, "Blake Bell" wrote: > fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > >> Blake, >> >> Here it is: >> >> - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing >> Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector >> zines. The >> actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! >> - Glen Johnson 26-41 >> - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 > > > Hi Aaron! Thanks so much for the list. I guess some of Rothermich's > verbiage makes it sound like he had been around before issue #42. I > guess he is also the person who took it to offset, from Glen's ditto run. > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ > Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 01 08:50:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29177 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 15:50:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 15:50:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 15:50:53 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.64.5a1539d7 (16087) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-D42 (fwm-d42.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.18]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v106.2) with ESMTP id MAILINID104-3ed742ee44b356; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:50:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: <8C764C7D5663EFD-1114-6AE0@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com> References: <1fd.6c6d53f.301ef12f@aol.com> Received: from 208.223.93.2 by FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:50:11 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <1fd.6c6d53f.301ef12f@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.1.0.13360 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.18 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821; y=gFvYKj86g4L4acdF3aPzJ0KdIZ8M5d-pxC4OKFDU2p-MjRpQ_0t5oQ X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Aaron Did you get that info from my Comic Reader index in Maelstrom #6 (1990)? If so, I'm glad the index finally served a useful purpose. ;) Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: fugtussey1@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? Blake, Here it is: - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! - Glen Johnson 26-41 - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 - Paul Levitz 78-100 - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic Reader" ... -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: Hi everyone. Does someone have a chronology of the publishers of the COMIC READER? I thought Glen Johnson did the early issues, but in the opening column on issue #42, I see the name Derrill Rotherich (sp?) who seems to have been there for months. Anyone have a list of who published, at least up until Issue #42? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. 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Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Aug 01 09:23:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23043 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 16:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 16:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 16:23:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20932 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 16:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 16:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <42EE4CF9.5070807@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:25:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Reprint of Ditko's drawing for Alter Ego #6? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=3KfwxqfOzdfn9wIfww0HrIJlMhtzFthnsBSjco4wMl0R X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Hi everyone! I don't have Ditko's contribution to Alter Ego #6 (Mar '64) as being reprinted anywhere. Am I wrong? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Mon Aug 01 09:29:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36618 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 16:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 16:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m15.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.205) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 16:28:59 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1a0.38de6de0 (4418) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a0.38de6de0.301fa7ae@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:28:30 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.205 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=1fxJ0n_izhCyrxbqmyx9xwO5Ma4oJfIzgjauQnMhmCUoHb25 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Russ, I got it from my own list and from Comic Reader #100 ... I don't have Maelstrom #6, I have #1, 2 and a later issue. You wouldn't have an extra #6 to sell would you? -Aaron- In a message dated 8/1/2005 11:51:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: Hey Aaron Did you get that info from my Comic Reader index in Maelstrom #6 (1990)? If so, I'm glad the index finally served a useful purpose. ;) Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: fugtussey1@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? Blake, Here it is: - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! - Glen Johnson 26-41 - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 - Paul Levitz 78-100 - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic Reader" ... -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: Hi everyone. Does someone have a chronology of the publishers of the COMIC READER? I thought Glen Johnson did the early issues, but in the opening column on issue #42, I see the name Derrill Rotherich (sp?) who seems to have been there for months. Anyone have a list of who published, at least up until Issue #42? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. 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Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Aug 01 10:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9390 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 17:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 17:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m15.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.205) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 17:05:20 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1b8.184e5c03 (15875) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-D29 (fwm-d29.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.5]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID72-3e0342ee55891f8; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:02:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:02:00 -0400 Message-Id: <8C764D1DE55B4BF-910-1412E@FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com> References: <1a0.38de6de0.301fa7ae@aol.com> Received: from 208.223.93.2 by FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.5) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:02:00 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <1a0.38de6de0.301fa7ae@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.1.0.13360 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.5 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.205 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821; y=UOhqyOV4pCnVk-uqeFo4p49VlboWRuiU1mYqxDlWqlUCKxDET4_VBA X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, although it is technically "sold out" I think I can spare one. I'll e-mail you off-line. Since you didn't use my index of TCR issues #1-100, I'm going to doublecheck your info with the data I compiled for TCR. I was pretty in-depth with the index, and had actual copies or photocopies of most issues. I also covered in-depth the strange splits and name changes TCR endured, including a month where two variations of TCR appeared under the same issue number by two different publishers I need to re-do the index anyway, making a few corrections and adding the Tiefenbacher/Sinkovec issues. Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: fugtussey1@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:28:30 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? Hey Russ, I got it from my own list and from Comic Reader #100 ... I don't have Maelstrom #6, I have #1, 2 and a later issue. You wouldn't have an extra #6 to sell would you? -Aaron- In a message dated 8/1/2005 11:51:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: Hey Aaron Did you get that info from my Comic Reader index in Maelstrom #6 (1990)? If so, I'm glad the index finally served a useful purpose. ;) Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: fugtussey1@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? Blake, Here it is: - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! - Glen Johnson 26-41 - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 - Paul Levitz 78-100 - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic Reader" ... -Aaron Caplan- In a message dated 7/31/2005 11:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: Hi everyone. Does someone have a chronology of the publishers of the COMIC READER? I thought Glen Johnson did the early issues, but in the opening column on issue #42, I see the name Derrill Rotherich (sp?) who seems to have been there for months. Anyone have a list of who published, at least up until Issue #42? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. 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Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Aug 01 10:32:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67663 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 17:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 17:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.83) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 17:32:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 41045 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 17:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 17:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <42EE5D19.5070804@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:34:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.83 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Anyone have a copy of KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=mBIP5hLCRMd9hp7oM-LuiTqMxV0Ae-0d7isBuotX1GIj X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan This is Don Schank's production featuring a nifty Ditko Spider-Man and Dr. Strange illo from 1964. I'm trying to find out if this illo was printed offset, or mimeo-ed/ditto-ed (in other words, traced by Schank, rather than printed as originally sent by Ditko). SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Mon Aug 01 11:05:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71804 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2005 18:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2005 18:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m18.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.208) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2005 18:05:43 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.c1.5d60f26b (4418) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:05:06 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have a copy of KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=ESxC9Wv8-XBNL91Ad7YwsaF1qbBaAG2LGmPh6ZB-ad3Ng5J7 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just so you know, Komik Heroes #7 is ditto from cover to cover. So it's likely that #6 was also printed exclusively via the ditto process. -Aaron- In a message dated 8/1/2005 1:33:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: This is Don Schank's production featuring a nifty Ditko Spider-Man and Dr. Strange illo from 1964. I'm trying to find out if this illo was printed offset, or mimeo-ed/ditto-ed (in other words, traced by Schank, rather than printed as originally sent by Ditko). SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From carchivist@yahoo.com Mon Aug 01 20:15:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27047 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 03:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 03:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 03:15:12 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1df.411ecdc6 (4468) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1df.411ecdc6.30203f32@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:14:58 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 291 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: CArchivist@aol.com From: carchivist@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164082125; y=ObGMkVhCXXb4kqa-_66mH18nIuGkGBf2yJt2AdQHI_I5KNZY0A X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/1/05 11:34:47 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > Blake Bell?! I thought you were dead! > > Tom "the Comics Savant" Stewart > Doesn't look like Ditko has done Blake in yet! my best -Ray [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Aug 01 20:22:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 65373 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 03:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 03:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 03:22:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 90792 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 03:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 03:22:12 -0000 Message-ID: <42EEE74D.5030305@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:23:57 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1df.411ecdc6.30203f32@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1df.411ecdc6.30203f32@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=e6IjLbj0PFWltAlFkpRFXm0rOIjmccRaOLbiEbgyUo8T X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan carchivist@yahoo.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/05 11:34:47 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > writes: > > Blake Bell?! I thought you were dead! > > > > Tom "the Comics Savant" Stewart > > Doesn't look like Ditko has done Blake in yet! > > my best > -Ray I stopped eating sandwiches in 2003, just in case! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From TOMPSTEWART@MSN.COM Mon Aug 01 23:15:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 99404 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 06:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 06:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.61.89) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 06:15:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:15:10 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by BAY102-DAV17.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:15:10 +0000 X-Originating-Email: [tompstewart@msn.com] X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com User-Agent: MSN-for-Mac/2.0.1.2311 Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:17:02 -0700 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <42EEE74D.5030305@rogers.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2005 06:15:10.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[89A607A0:01C59729] X-Originating-IP: 64.4.61.89 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Tom Stewart Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=196251741; y=4mH7IfEffttNH-mQ6h5eiHuNyb1nqrjKLot2wEOE-HuHoUCfwvM X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 >> Blake Bell?! I thought you were dead! >>> >>> Tom "the Comics Savant" Stewart >> >> Doesn't look like Ditko has done Blake in yet! >> >> my best >> -Ray > > > I stopped eating sandwiches in 2003, just in case! > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. It's the wine where they get ya. And the Diet Pepsi. Tom "the Comics Savant" Stewart http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm From nova64@mchsi.com Tue Aug 02 09:42:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84150 invoked by uid 7800); 2 Aug 2005 16:42:15 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43138 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 16:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 16:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.43) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 16:02:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.72] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:02:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8C764D1DE55B4BF-910-1412E@FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2165 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.43 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.133.87.226 From: "Doug" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796; y=ENTs88jyM8Q2h0hw_v4AwMdRzzwKO0nYMJ_s0vM0wc0-RnqGR4ZL1o8f X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 2 Aug 2005 16:42:15 -0000 One side note about the Comic Reader. Back in either 2000 or 2001, there was an attempt to revive the magazine. The new publisher was Don Lund. Don did a herculean effort to bring the magazine to market and even got the first issue solicited in Previews (with a nice Savage Dragon cover done by Erik Larsen). However, due to circumstances beyond his control, he wasn't able to get the magazine out. The Comic Reader continued as a web-based news and interviews site for a few years before it went offline. I was proud to be the webmaster for the site and enjoyed working with the staff very much. Doug --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > Yes, although it is technically "sold out" I think I can spare one. I'll e-mail you off-line. > > Since you didn't use my index of TCR issues #1-100, I'm going to doublecheck your info with the data I compiled for TCR. I was pretty in-depth with the index, and had actual copies or photocopies of most issues. I also covered in-depth the strange splits and name changes TCR endured, including a month where two variations of TCR appeared under the same issue number by two different publishers > > I need to re-do the index anyway, making a few corrections and adding the Tiefenbacher/Sinkovec issues. > > Russ Maheras > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fugtussey1@a... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT > Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? > > > Blake, > > Here it is: > > - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing > Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The > actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! > - Glen Johnson 26-41 > - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 > - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 > - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 > - Paul Levitz 78-100 > - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ > > During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes > from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic > Reader" ... > > -Aaron Caplan- > From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Aug 02 14:28:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24924 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 21:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 21:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 21:28:45 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.65.4a873bf1 (3850) for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <65.4a873bf1.30213f86@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:28:38 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=b-YnZJNtAb08HeDbZB4-wIiOi0lLUO0aW70fTTca_2zv3-j3 X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug, That was a great site. You did a good job on that one. I had wondered what had happened to it. By the way, are you still collecting Super Adventures fanzines by Marv Wolfman (and other thing that relate to Nova)? Super Adventures #9 is up on ebay right now. -Aaron- In a message dated 8/2/2005 12:43:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nova64@mchsi.com writes: One side note about the Comic Reader. Back in either 2000 or 2001, there was an attempt to revive the magazine. The new publisher was Don Lund. Don did a herculean effort to bring the magazine to market and even got the first issue solicited in Previews (with a nice Savage Dragon cover done by Erik Larsen). However, due to circumstances beyond his control, he wasn't able to get the magazine out. The Comic Reader continued as a web-based news and interviews site for a few years before it went offline. I was proud to be the webmaster for the site and enjoyed working with the staff very much. Doug --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@a... wrote: > Yes, although it is technically "sold out" I think I can spare one. I'll e-mail you off-line. > > Since you didn't use my index of TCR issues #1-100, I'm going to doublecheck your info with the data I compiled for TCR. I was pretty in-depth with the index, and had actual copies or photocopies of most issues. I also covered in-depth the strange splits and name changes TCR endured, including a month where two variations of TCR appeared under the same issue number by two different publishers > > I need to re-do the index anyway, making a few corrections and adding the Tiefenbacher/Sinkovec issues. > > Russ Maheras > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fugtussey1@a... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:29:51 EDT > Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? > > > Blake, > > Here it is: > > - Jerry Bails Issues 1-25: The first issues were called "On the Drawing > Board" and were incorported into Jerry's Alter-Ego & Comicollector zines. The > actual 1st real issue under the name "The Comic Reader" was #8! > - Glen Johnson 26-41 > - Derrill Rothermich 42-49 > - Robert Schoenfeld 50-64 > - Mark Hanerfeld 65-77 > - Paul Levitz 78-100 > - Jerome Sinkovec/Mike Tiefenbacher (Street Enterprises) 100+ > > During the #49-77 period, there were a number of VERY confusing name changes > from "The Comic Reader" to "On The Drawing Board" to "Etcetera & the Comic > Reader" ... > > -Aaron Caplan- > Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nova64@mchsi.com Tue Aug 02 22:54:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12437 invoked by uid 7800); 3 Aug 2005 05:54:08 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81553 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.63) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.64] by n10.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by mailer1.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.70] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2005 21:35:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:35:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <65.4a873bf1.30213f86@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 588 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.63 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.133.87.226 From: "Doug" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796; y=fvAOAX_xvF6xU1g7oKuXGP-D32ZTrtCy3fqm47MV7Y35gEsjyCyw3zlH X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 3 Aug 2005 05:54:08 -0000 Thanks, Aaron! Yep, still looking for Super Adventures. I currently need issues 3, 4, and 7. And, of course, I'm always on the lookout for anything related to Nova! :) Doug Nova Prime Page www.novaprimepage.com --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@a... wrote: > Doug, > > That was a great site. You did a good job on that one. I had wondered what > had happened to it. > > By the way, are you still collecting Super Adventures fanzines by Marv > Wolfman (and other thing that relate to Nova)? Super Adventures #9 is up on ebay > right now. > > -Aaron- > From caputon66@yahoo.com Wed Aug 03 09:01:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95244 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2005 16:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2005 16:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.28) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2005 16:01:01 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n14.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2005 16:00:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2005 16:00:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:00:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1860 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.28 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.236.245.243 From: "Nick Caputo" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Publishers of the COMIC READER? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59443212; y=YAUNQbRHp0WkU7zNJPZXiO0Ew019gzqykyTfNrlT3RvRyU9k X-Yahoo-Profile: caputon66 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" wrote: > One side note about the Comic Reader. Back in either 2000 or 2001, > there was an attempt to revive the magazine. The new publisher was > Don Lund. Don did a herculean effort to bring the magazine to market > and even got the first issue solicited in Previews (with a nice > Savage Dragon cover done by Erik Larsen). > > However, due to circumstances beyond his control, he wasn't able to > get the magazine out. The Comic Reader continued as a web-based news > and interviews site for a few years before it went offline. I was > proud to be the webmaster for the site and enjoyed working with the > staff very much. Hi Doug, I'm sorry iy never came off. I have very fond memories of the Comic Reader, the very first fanzine I ever saw. I noticed it in the window of an old comics/book shop on a Sunday evening. It was one of those old shops that used to carry everything - Books, records, magazines, comics - and it was run by a family. Pat was the proprietor, and I bought many old comics from him over the years (I bought, and still have - many of my old Amazing Adult Fantasy issues). It was The Comic Reader # 92, I believe, with a Warlock cover by Alan Kupperberg, and I recall anxiously awaiting going to the store on Monday to get this strange new pamphlet. I was thrilled to read all the news and coming comics, and I later got a subscription to TCR. I still have that issue and many earlier issues as well. It started me on the way to studying comics history and seeing how involved the world of fandom was, to the point where it has overshadowed the comics themselves (I read more fanzines and books on comics than comics these days!) Sorry for being so long-winded but you got me all misty eyed thinking of those long gone days... Nick Caputo From comicbookscoop@yahoo.com Fri Aug 12 20:16:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40537 invoked by uid 7800); 13 Aug 2005 03:16:12 -0000 X-Sender: comicbookscoop@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77483 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2005 03:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2005 03:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.42) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 03:14:39 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2005 03:13:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.71] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2005 03:13:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 03:13:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2449 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.42 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.247.171.47 From: "Chad" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Announcing_a_New,_Comic-Based_Web_Community_=96_Comic_Book_Scoop!?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=225357812; y=rLOiWBBG1Fe5Q-8aZkOw4dGwnQkbC45fMV20qjtXQdfzOlINByjCSbg X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookscoop X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 13 Aug 2005 03:16:12 -0000 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE=20 Contact:=20 Chad Halsey=20 www.comicbookscoop.com=20 comicbookscoop@yahoo.com=20 Announcing a New, Comic-Based Web Community =96 Comic Book Scoop!=20 Bay City, MI -- Visit http://www.comicbookscoop.com/ to get in on=20 the ground floor of the newest and most innovative comic book=20 community on the web. Comic Book Scoop utilizes the "Blogiverse" to=20 enhance and expand the comic book community.=20 "My goal is to create an online fanzine," said Chad Halsey, the=20 owner of Comic Book Scoop. "I hope this new website will become THE=20 place on the web for comic fans, artists, writers, professionals,=20 amateurs and curious bystanders to exchange opinions about the=20 latest events in the industry, collaborate on new projects, and=20 brainstorm ways to expand the ranks of comic book fans."=20 Comic Book Scoop incorporates blogging technology which will allow=20 individuals to create their own blog, or online journal, to write=20 about whatever interests them. "The focus of the site will be=20 comics," added Chad, "but I want it to be more about building a=20 community where all of the members just happen to be comic fans."=20 One of the features that is particularly new and innovative is the=20 ability of members of Comic Book Scoop's community to=20 create "books". A book is a collaborative effort: users can write=20 and create art for pages of the book, position the pages in the=20 right order, and review or modify pages previously created.=20 Comic Book Scoop also uses RSS (Really Simple Syndication)=20 technology to allow users to syndicate content from the site into a=20 newsreader and will incorporate RSS feeds from comic publishers and=20 creators who provide them. "I want to make Comic Book Scoop a one- stop location for people to read about news, previews and reviews of=20 the latest happenings in the industry," said Chad.=20 Other features of Comic Book Scoop include the ability to comment on=20 other's blog entries, private message other members of the=20 community, build buddy lists, and vote in online polls.=20 "Comics have often been written-off as a medium for children. While=20 that is partially true, those of us who read comics know that it is=20 a much broader art form than it is often given credit for," said=20 Chad. "Hopefully this new site will help to illuminate a broader=20 audience about the educational and artistic attributes of comic=20 books."=20 The web site is free to the public and will be advertiser supported. # # #=20 From ditko37@rogers.com Fri Aug 12 20:42:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12160 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2005 03:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2005 03:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.83) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 03:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28880 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2005 03:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 03:42:51 -0000 Message-ID: <42FD6CAB.8050902@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:44:43 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com References: <42ED9CEF.3020807@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <42ED9CEF.3020807@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.83 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: Who were the first to annoy Ditko in Comic Fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=hZJSnf1sw13_T5ryZyGlqlyziLAr1aCjIcza6zQxAYeZ X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan To follow up on incidents where fandom may have annoyed Ditko by either stealing artwork he sent them or waiting forever to publish pieces he believed would be published in due course... The holder of the original artwork to the Blue Beetle head shot from REALM #2 (May '70) dropped by the web site today. They dropped me a line with a scan of the artwork, as well as what was written on the back: a letter from Ditko saying that he didn't have the time to answer their questions (short and not so sweet). The "punchline" in this story? The holder of the piece has the envelope it was sent in and says they received it on August 8th, 1967! So, it would seem that Ditko sent the piece to the publisher of REALM #2 in 1967, got back the piece, flipped it to a fan on August 8th, 1967, and then had to wait THREE YEARS to see the piece published! Nutty. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) Blake Bell wrote: > So here's the burning question of the day: > > In Bill Schelly's 2001 TwoMorrows book, "Sense of Wonder," Schelly > tells the story about how he printed a Dr. Strange illo in > Super-Heroes Anonymous #2 (Apr '65) and then received a letter from > Ditko, where Ditko stated his displeasure as such: “You should not > have assumed that the drawing I sent you was for publication. You > should have asked my permission. This isn't the first time I've been > treated inconsiderately by members of fandom, which is why I've > stopped sending out drawings to fans.” > > Now, this is early '65! How much stuff have Ditko sent to fans that > had been published? Here's my list of pre-SHA #2 publications that > printed Ditko's material (so which one of these were the culprit?)... > > ALTER EGO #6: Mar '64 - Spider-man / Dr. Strange illo. & accompanying > letter. > - unlikely, given that it was Roy, and that Ditko did another for him > in late '65. > NYC COMICON PROGRAM #1: Sum ’64 – full page illos of SM/Dr. Strange > (Bernie Bubnis) > - quite possibly, given that the program was done as a "memorial" put > out after the Con > AURORA #5: 1964 – Dr. Strange cover (Fanzine - Len Wein) > - possibly > KOMIK HEROES OF THE FUTURE #6: 1964 – Dr. Strange Spider-Man illo (Don > Schank) > - possibly > COMIC READER #33: Jan ’65 – Spider-Man/Dr. Strange illo. (Glen Johnson) > COMIC READER #35: Mar ’65 – article “Why Steve Ditko Likes Mort > Meskin” (Glen Johnson) > COMIC READER #36: Apr ’65 – cover Captain Atom (Glen Johnson) > - unlikely if Ditko kept coming back to Johnson so many times > > So who annoyed Ditko? Bubnis? Wein? Schank? > > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ > Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Aug 24 16:51:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73948 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2005 23:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Aug 2005 23:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.38) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2005 23:51:09 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2005 23:51:09 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2005 23:51:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:51:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 973 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.16.41.2 From: "Aaron Caplan" Subject: Rocket's Blast 1-20 up for auction on Ebay this week X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=4uIEr8pWDEnb3e7W9765oUUJDnjC9ot9Umg6BaVDZ0qH43St X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Just thought I'd send a note to tell you that one of the holy grails in fanzine collecting, Rocket's Blast 1-20, are up for auction on ebay this week. See the following link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =6555935932&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting I won't be bidding as it's too rich for my bank account, but I'm anxious to see if anyone goes for it. Al Schulz (Basement Comics) bought them from John Knight last year for $6000, so expect at least a $7000 minimum bid to go above the reserve. Knight showed me the set at a show in 2004, and they were in great condition (for being mailed without an envelop). The first couple issues are practically impossible to find as they were carbon copied with a maximum circulation of 4 or 5 copies! I looked over issues 1-4, and you could still see the deep impressions GB Love's typewriter embossed every time he typed a period ("."). If you bid, good luck! Bestest, Aaron Caplan From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed Aug 24 17:39:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 65730 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2005 00:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2005 00:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m21.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.2) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2005 00:39:06 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.103.6826ef54 (4206) for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <103.6826ef54.303e6d28@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:39:04 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5201 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.2 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast 1-20 up for auction on Ebay this week X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/24/2005 4:51:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, fugtussey1@aol.com writes: Al Schulz (Basement Comics) bought them from John Knight last year for $6000, so expect at least a $7000 minimum bid to go above the reserve. Knight showed me the set at a show in 2004, and they were in great condition (for being mailed without an envelop). The first couple issues are practically impossible to find as they were carbon copied with a maximum circulation of 4 or 5 copies! I looked over issues 1-4, and you could still see the deep impressions GB Love's typewriter embossed every time he typed a period ("."). I also saw these at Comicon and was promised a set of photocopies of them. Guess that won't happen now.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Sep 04 19:07:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35779 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 02:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 02:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 02:07:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 72201 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 02:06:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 02:06:29 -0000 Message-ID: <431BA81B.2010103@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:06:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=DtIhdliv9-vV0YCgIear8f7sTFaXjXijyGLEiHsYqdBJ X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Comic Artist #6, 1969 Differo #2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell Drift #1, 1969 by Campbell Junk #1, 1969 ...and do they contain Ditko? Came across something in my files. It's called "A Steve Ditko Checklist - take two" and says in the indicia "produced for apa-i," compiled by Cat Yronwode, Dean Mullaney and Lou Mougin. It's the revised version of the original Ditko checklist that Cat and Mougin created. From the opening, it says, "A second use will be as a feature in THE ART OF STEVE DITKO by Mark S. Upchurch which Eclipse Books will be publishing next July." Interestingly, it lists "Galactic Illustrations #3" from 1968, and containing Mr. A. I thinking they may have been confusing that with the never-published "Graphic Illustrations #3", 1969, from Keith Tucker, who used Ditko's contribution to this never-published issue in "Graphic Illusions #1" in 1971. Can anyone confirm that "Galactic Illustrations #3" never existed? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Sep 04 19:38:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 80556 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 02:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 02:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 02:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 92559 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 02:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 02:38:08 -0000 Message-ID: <431BAF86.3050301@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:37:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, GCD Chat List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: More Fanzine listings from the Cat/Lou/Dean checklist X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=tpsPo2L9ZmrbIFbxPHiLwnhYS3EaWyWy2-F4ZDWQvgvb X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan They also list a fanzine entitled, "Assorted Superlatives #2" from 1971. A list of fanzines I have credits this fanzine to Charles Eric Spanier. It also has a listing for "Phoenix #4" which the checklist has a question mark beside "1971." Anyone know of these? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ditkokirby] Anyone have... Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:06:19 -0400 From: Blake Bell Reply-To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Comic Artist #6, 1969 Differo #2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell Drift #1, 1969 by Campbell Junk #1, 1969 ...and do they contain Ditko? Came across something in my files. It's called "A Steve Ditko Checklist - take two" and says in the indicia "produced for apa-i," compiled by Cat Yronwode, Dean Mullaney and Lou Mougin. It's the revised version of the original Ditko checklist that Cat and Mougin created. From the opening, it says, "A second use will be as a feature in THE ART OF STEVE DITKO by Mark S. Upchurch which Eclipse Books will be publishing next July." Interestingly, it lists "Galactic Illustrations #3" from 1968, and containing Mr. A. I thinking they may have been confusing that with the never-published "Graphic Illustrations #3", 1969, from Keith Tucker, who used Ditko's contribution to this never-published issue in "Graphic Illusions #1" in 1971. Can anyone confirm that "Galactic Illustrations #3" never existed? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From snoopy967@bigpond.com Sun Sep 04 20:04:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2220 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Sep 2005 03:04:19 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52582 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com) (144.140.93.195) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (really [60.231.217.119]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20050905025849.QLNM23311.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@[10.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:58:49 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.10.18]); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:31:56 +0930 Message-ID: <431BB524.1060708@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:31:56 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <431BA81B.2010103@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <431BA81B.2010103@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com from [60.231.217.119] using ID snoopy967 at Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:58:49 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 144.140.93.195 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Daniel Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=iYhlLN1M-KrWEk4c7ev43oXNrtoq4Irf_h9J0UxU2Qz-gAetVVi74A X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 5 Sep 2005 03:04:19 -0000 If we're asking - if anyone has any fanzines with anything, and I mean ANYTHING, relating to Ross Andru or Mike Esposito then do get in touch - there's some serious cash in it for the magazines and/or copies of articles and the like. I'm looking to kill someone to get a copy of Wonderworld #3, and (I think it's) the 1976 Marvel Comics Convention - it has an Espo article/photo in it. Oh, and I'm now buying up copies of The Comic reader, so if anyone wants to dump copies then I'm yer boy. Anyway - Blake - I've picked up a pile of Australian reprint comics from the '70s and '80s with heaps of Ditko Charlton and Atlas reprints in them. Are the details of these of any use to you? I'm scanning all the Charlton stuff as I get time - do you need any Charlton Ditko material in a hurry? Cheers Daniel Blake Bell wrote: >Comic Artist #6, 1969 >Differo #2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell >Drift #1, 1969 by Campbell >Junk #1, 1969 > >...and do they contain Ditko? > >Came across something in my files. It's called "A Steve Ditko Checklist >- take two" and says in the indicia "produced for apa-i," compiled by >Cat Yronwode, Dean Mullaney and Lou Mougin. It's the revised version of >the original Ditko checklist that Cat and Mougin created. From the >opening, it says, "A second use will be as a feature in THE ART OF STEVE >DITKO by Mark S. Upchurch which Eclipse Books will be publishing next >July." > >Interestingly, it lists "Galactic Illustrations #3" from 1968, and >containing Mr. A. I thinking they may have been confusing that with the >never-published "Graphic Illustrations #3", 1969, from Keith Tucker, who >used Ditko's contribution to this never-published issue in "Graphic >Illusions #1" in 1971. > >Can anyone confirm that "Galactic Illustrations #3" never existed? Thanks! > >SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. >(Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ >Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Sep 04 20:08:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 796 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 03:08:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 03:08:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 03:08:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 34847 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 03:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 03:08:31 -0000 Message-ID: <431BB6A7.8080001@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:08:23 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <431BA81B.2010103@rogers.com> <431BB524.1060708@bigpond.com> In-Reply-To: <431BB524.1060708@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=6n0MHPO6Oj2HGKpvjm2yMJ6DaNL0dm54bVove-d78l2j X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Daniel wrote: > Anyway - Blake - I've picked up a pile of Australian reprint comics from > the '70s and '80s with heaps of Ditko Charlton and Atlas reprints in > them. Are the details of these of any use to you? I'm scanning all the > Charlton stuff as I get time - do you need any Charlton Ditko material > in a hurry? Hi Daniel. Thanks so much for the offer. I am looking for nice, clean B&W images of 1950s/early 60s Charlton material (plus the odd Atlas book from 1956) and any B&W art from 1966-67 Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and The Question that I can find. Please do contact me off list, and thanks again for the offer! :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Sep 04 22:24:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 65828 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 05:24:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 05:24:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 05:24:43 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.15b.58846972 (3924) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15b.58846972.304d3096@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:24:38 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] More Fanzine listings from the Cat/Lou/Dean checklist X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=-DZrb5DgTKCuZaReIcGVWE5UfYU5xHba9Yh1MxwZr76NGhqu X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake, - Galactic Illustrations vs Graphic Illusions: I have both Galactic Illustrations #'s 1 & 2 by Tucker. As far as I know (and according to Steve Ogden's incredible Fanzine Database), Galactic Illustrations #3 never was published. Galactic Illustrations #1 was mailed in March 68, while Galactic Illustrations #2 was mailed in Sept 68 - it would have had to have been published pretty quickly to have mailed towards the end of 1968. So you are probably right about Cat & Mougin confusing Tucker's "Galactic Illustrations" with Rob Gustaveson's "Graphic Illusions" - Graphic Illusions #1 has a 5 page Mr A strip plus a back cover by Ditko. You may want to query Rob Gustaveson as he is a member of this group and also contributed to Tucker's fanzine. Maybe he knows a little more. Are you listening Rob? - Assorted Superlatives 2: I have issue #3, so #2 certainly exists. Note that #3 includes an article on Charlton that reprints some Ditko panels from Capt Atom 85 & Blue Beetle 4. - The Comic Artist: Edited by Lamar Blaylock, I have #3, the Wally Wood issue, and it lists #6 as a future Ditko issue. Not sure if any more were ever published, but there were at least 4 more issues planned with a focus on Al Williamson (#4), Gil Kane (#5), Ditko (#6) and Reed Crandell (#7). I know of no-one who owns anything past #3. - Phoenix was also edited by Lamar Blaylock, but I only have #3 (Feb '70), and Blaylock does not mention Ditko in his detailed "Next Issue" announcement. Again, not sure if #4 was ever published ... - Differo: there's only a #1 that I know of. I highly doubt that a #2 or #3 has ever existed ... but I've been known to be wrong ... -Drift & Junk: never heard of Bestest, Aaron Caplan In a message dated 9/4/2005 10:38:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: They also list a fanzine entitled, "Assorted Superlatives #2" from 1971. A list of fanzines I have credits this fanzine to Charles Eric Spanier. It also has a listing for "Phoenix #4" which the checklist has a question mark beside "1971." Anyone know of these? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ditkokirby] Anyone have... Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:06:19 -0400 From: Blake Bell Reply-To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Comic Artist #6, 1969 Differo #2, 3, 1969 by Donald Campbell Drift #1, 1969 by Campbell Junk #1, 1969 ...and do they contain Ditko? Came across something in my files. It's called "A Steve Ditko Checklist - take two" and says in the indicia "produced for apa-i," compiled by Cat Yronwode, Dean Mullaney and Lou Mougin. It's the revised version of the original Ditko checklist that Cat and Mougin created. From the opening, it says, "A second use will be as a feature in THE ART OF STEVE DITKO by Mark S. Upchurch which Eclipse Books will be publishing next July." Interestingly, it lists "Galactic Illustrations #3" from 1968, and containing Mr. A. I thinking they may have been confusing that with the never-published "Graphic Illustrations #3", 1969, from Keith Tucker, who used Ditko's contribution to this never-published issue in "Graphic Illusions #1" in 1971. Can anyone confirm that "Galactic Illustrations #3" never existed? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Sep 04 22:35:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39316 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 05:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 05:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m21.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.2) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 05:35:42 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1e3.4332d276 (3924) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1e3.4332d276.304d331e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:26 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.2 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=_UctKrFH9b3OWw_yDd_UvlhMwpiAu0qZRXvWBIsK7PkQM79n X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel, I suspect you probably know this already, but the Amazing World of DC Comics #15, Aug '77, "Wonder Woman Issue" has a really good article entiltled "Remembering with Ross Andru and Mike Esposito." Features their history and large photos of the two. Plus art. -Aaron- In a message dated 9/4/2005 11:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snoopy967@bigpond.com writes: If we're asking - if anyone has any fanzines with anything, and I mean ANYTHING, relating to Ross Andru or Mike Esposito then do get in touch - there's some serious cash in it for the magazines and/or copies of articles and the like. I'm looking to kill someone to get a copy of Wonderworld #3, and (I think it's) the 1976 Marvel Comics Convention - it has an Espo article/photo in it. Oh, and I'm now buying up copies of The Comic reader, so if anyone wants to dump copies then I'm yer boy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Sun Sep 04 23:10:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7114 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 06:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 06:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 06:10:28 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.8a.2e72a400 (3924) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8a.2e72a400.304d3b48@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:10:16 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=vf2dyTcVghfY7NLJGG4qdqcEkGUMwB3ylt5W0f6A4Xpm9F0C X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel, I checked out Marvel-Con '76 Program - sorry, no Andru or Esposito photos/article! Must be in the '75 Program. There was no Wonderworld #3 - it was called Graphic Story World (published by Richard Kyle) issues #1-8 and changed names to Wonderworld issues 9 & 10. But good news! I believe you are referring to Wonderworld #9 (Aug '73), which features ERB's Pelllucidar, by Roy Thomas and Ross Andru on the cover, and has sample Andru art on pg 14-15. I have copies of both Wonderworld 9 and Amazing World of DC #15 for the sum of .... ONE MILLION DOLLARS (sticks pinky in side of mouth while snickering)!!!! No, just kidding. Send me your address offline and I'll let you borrow them. I won't sell the Wonderworld (only copy), but I have dups of the Amazing World 15. -Aaron- In a message dated 9/5/2005 1:36:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fugtussey1@aol.com writes: Daniel, I suspect you probably know this already, but the Amazing World of DC Comics #15, Aug '77, "Wonder Woman Issue" has a really good article entiltled "Remembering with Ross Andru and Mike Esposito." Features their history and large photos of the two. Plus art. -Aaron- In a message dated 9/4/2005 11:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snoopy967@bigpond.com writes: If we're asking - if anyone has any fanzines with anything, and I mean ANYTHING, relating to Ross Andru or Mike Esposito then do get in touch - there's some serious cash in it for the magazines and/or copies of articles and the like. I'm looking to kill someone to get a copy of Wonderworld #3, and (I think it's) the 1976 Marvel Comics Convention - it has an Espo article/photo in it. Oh, and I'm now buying up copies of The Comic reader, so if anyone wants to dump copies then I'm yer boy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From snoopy967@bigpond.com Sun Sep 04 23:22:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36636 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Sep 2005 06:22:52 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26282 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 06:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 06:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com) (144.140.93.154) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 06:00:29 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (really [60.231.217.119]) by omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20050905060006.YNU20351.omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@[10.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:00:06 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.10.18]); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:33:14 +0930 Message-ID: <431BDFA2.6090501@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:33:14 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1e3.4332d276.304d331e@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1e3.4332d276.304d331e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com from [60.231.217.119] using ID snoopy967 at Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:00:06 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 144.140.93.154 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Daniel Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=s9ROLS348b0qy9M5N7mCmgqNOPwI6OTs7imlDbKUwD3fjJ_xjOInaA X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 5 Sep 2005 06:22:52 -0000 Hi Aaron, Yep, had that one for a fair while now. In fact I think that I've pretty much got everything that's out there, but as I got surprised last week with a fanzine that had a sketch of Doc Savage in it by Andru, well, just keeping the options open. Cheers Daniel fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: >Daniel, >I suspect you probably know this already, but the Amazing World of DC Comics >#15, Aug '77, "Wonder Woman Issue" has a really good article entiltled >"Remembering with Ross Andru and Mike Esposito." Features their history and large >photos of the two. Plus art. > >-Aaron- > > >In a message dated 9/4/2005 11:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >snoopy967@bigpond.com writes: >If we're asking - if anyone has any fanzines with anything, and I mean >ANYTHING, relating to Ross Andru or Mike Esposito then do get in touch - >there's some serious cash in it for the magazines and/or copies of >articles and the like. I'm looking to kill someone to get a copy of >Wonderworld #3, and (I think it's) the 1976 Marvel Comics Convention - >it has an Espo article/photo in it. Oh, and I'm now buying up copies of >The Comic reader, so if anyone wants to dump copies then I'm yer boy. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > From snoopy967@bigpond.com Sun Sep 04 23:23:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49660 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Sep 2005 06:23:12 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9200 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 06:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 06:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com) (144.140.93.195) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 06:13:40 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (really [60.231.217.119]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20050905061338.ZIZP23311.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@[10.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:13:38 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.10.18]); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:46:46 +0930 Message-ID: <431BE2CD.7040008@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:46:45 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <8a.2e72a400.304d3b48@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8a.2e72a400.304d3b48@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com from [60.231.217.119] using ID snoopy967 at Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:13:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 144.140.93.195 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Daniel Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=6rU32u0lmdF9vf6Ye7QHl9jKyixV5Hh2tkTX1Go8kEOdYDBPEw8rOQ X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 5 Sep 2005 06:23:12 -0000 fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: >Daniel, > >I checked out Marvel-Con '76 Program - sorry, no Andru or Esposito >photos/article! Must be in the '75 Program. > > Well spit. It ain't '75 - I have that one here. One of them has something Espo in it - I've seen the piccy and Mike did attend the conventions. >There was no Wonderworld #3 - it was called Graphic Story World (published by >Richard Kyle) issues #1-8 and changed names to Wonderworld issues 9 & 10. But >good news! I believe you are referring to Wonderworld #9 (Aug '73), which >features ERB's Pelllucidar, by Roy Thomas and Ross Andru on the cover, and has >sample Andru art on pg 14-15. > >I have copies of both Wonderworld 9 and Amazing World of DC #15 for the sum >of .... ONE MILLION DOLLARS (sticks pinky in side of mouth while >snickering)!!!! No, just kidding. Send me your address offline and I'll let you borrow them. >I won't sell the Wonderworld (only copy), but I have dups of the Amazing >World 15. > > I'd have your guinea pigs if I was able to. My many, many thanks. Cheers Daniel From yelir1182000@yahoo.com Mon Sep 05 06:12:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84679 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Sep 2005 13:12:34 -0000 X-Sender: yelir1182000@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55967 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 12:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 12:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web60816.mail.yahoo.com) (209.73.178.224) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 12:00:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2666 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2005 11:59:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20050905115930.2664.qmail@web60816.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.16.216.67] by web60816.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 04:59:30 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1e3.4332d276.304d331e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.73.178.224 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: ernest riley Subject: Re: [cbzines] Anyone have... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=165722162; y=2rSHHnhZrJ3LrxWhSuzpTSCYw3rGpEhtotkxWHl7JCtjAI9jzujj X-Yahoo-Profile: yelir1182000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 5 Sep 2005 13:12:34 -0000 i have many issues of comic reader in most near mint will try to send a list later today or tommorrow NH ernie fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: Daniel, I suspect you probably know this already, but the Amazing World of DC Comics #15, Aug '77, "Wonder Woman Issue" has a really good article entiltled "Remembering with Ross Andru and Mike Esposito." Features their history and large photos of the two. Plus art. -Aaron- In a message dated 9/4/2005 11:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snoopy967@bigpond.com writes: If we're asking - if anyone has any fanzines with anything, and I mean ANYTHING, relating to Ross Andru or Mike Esposito then do get in touch - there's some serious cash in it for the magazines and/or copies of articles and the like. I'm looking to kill someone to get a copy of Wonderworld #3, and (I think it's) the 1976 Marvel Comics Convention - it has an Espo article/photo in it. Oh, and I'm now buying up copies of The Comic reader, so if anyone wants to dump copies then I'm yer boy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Comic book Comic book store Comic book artist Comic book cover Comic book for sale Dc comic book --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "comicbookfanzines" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Mon Sep 05 16:33:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98018 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2005 23:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2005 23:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 23:33:01 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.20.4c5cfc14 (2168) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 19:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20.4c5cfc14.304e2fab@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 19:32:59 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5112 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] More Fanzine listings from the Cat/Lou/Dean checklist X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821; y=o_2ZFQiE5ysTazdxmAOrBMHro6N0kApIAUzhrNhOPp1yzGgDfZny0g X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I have at least one issue of Differo -- I'll try and find it. Russ Maheras [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flagmancomics@yahoo.com Mon Sep 05 21:30:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89423 invoked by uid 7800); 6 Sep 2005 04:30:29 -0000 X-Sender: flagmancomics@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75830 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2005 01:04:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2005 01:04:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.200.102) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2005 01:04:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 55839 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2005 01:04:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20050906010404.55837.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.24.70.170] by web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:04:03 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 18:04:03 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1125927050.224.70771.m20@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.200.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: David Subject: Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70450052; y=rj0DR0obchuAA6Uh1K9vq4Y2cjmI4WjoyqiPEEnT0Sjy7ezwOD50eA X-Yahoo-Profile: flagmancomics X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 6 Sep 2005 04:30:29 -0000 <> I saw this mentioned in the last digest that came from the group in discussion. I googled the database but could not find any info on it. Where can I find this database that was mentioned? Is there a good online resource for fanzine publishing info from the past? I would like to see what info is available online about the fanzines I published back in the '70s. Thanks in adavance. David ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Sep 06 21:53:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 21516 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 04:53:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2005 04:53:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2005 04:53:21 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id r.1f4.1167aca7 (48552) for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 00:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1f4.1167aca7.304fcc32@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 00:53:06 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=p6BmOaiLWhB6VeiyouN4LBQEiAJARiVn3LgqQ2pSGSzSYLgK X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to your e-mail. Please note that it is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be acceptable to some servers. By the way, an older version of this file used to be somewhere in this Yahoo Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden had uploaded in 2002. If anyone else wants a copy, please send your request to me at fugtussey1@aol.com and I'll e-mail one out to you. Aaron Caplan In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:30:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, flagmancomics@yahoo.com writes: <> I saw this mentioned in the last digest that came from the group in discussion. I googled the database but could not find any info on it. Where can I find this database that was mentioned? Is there a good online resource for fanzine publishing info from the past? I would like to see what info is available online about the fanzines I published back in the '70s. Thanks in adavance. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ric.croxton@gmail.com Tue Sep 06 21:55:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35852 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 04:55:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2005 04:55:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.194) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2005 04:55:49 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so995914wra for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.9 with SMTP id j9mr4863646wrj; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.21 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a0509062155268d0872@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 23:55:48 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1f4.1167aca7.304fcc32@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1f4.1167aca7.304fcc32@aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.194 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: ric.croxton@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=q9dbGnnuv9kuj6cI5JX5_00dKrifGxIHSSNdCcQKB_JUaRn3OA X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd be interested. Ric Croxton On 9/6/05, fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > > David, > > I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to your e-mail. Please note that > it > is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be acceptable to some > servers. > By the way, an older version of this file used to be somewhere in this > Yahoo > Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden had uploaded in 2002. > > If anyone else wants a copy, please send your request to me at > fugtussey1@aol.com and I'll e-mail one out to you. > > Aaron Caplan > > In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:30:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > flagmancomics@yahoo.com writes: > < Database)>> > > I saw this mentioned in the last digest that came from the group in > discussion. I googled the database but could not find any info on it. > Where can I find > this database that was mentioned? > > Is there a good online resource for fanzine publishing info from the past? > > I would like to see what info is available online about the fanzines I > published back in the '70s. > > Thanks in adavance. > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Comic book Comic > book store Comic > book artist Comic > book cover Comic > book for sale Dc > comic book > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "comicbookfanzines" > on the web. > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Wed Sep 07 10:38:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69657 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 17:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2005 17:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.102) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2005 17:38:31 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.14] (rrcs-24-172-9-217.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.217]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j87HcSY4020737 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <1126098370.359.92367.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1126098370.359.92367.m20@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <38C7B99B-1FC6-11DA-9F0C-000A95E27AE6@triad.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:38:37 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Originating-IP: 24.25.9.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Chris Wallace Subject: An open call for help... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573; y=sSYHoeb2rTHts0mPyC6KDY8dm4kQwn05TnWaZL4i-vAzE4VW1Qc X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Hi gang, A few of you may already know that I am working on a fanzine guide with color photos and as much info as I can pack. Although I have a lot, I am in need of many scans of early low run fanzines. If anyone has any scans of early Rocket's Blast (not RBCC), ComiCollector, and the like they would be willing to share, I'll give you credit and a copy of the book once completed. Any takers? Thanks, Chris -Road weary and saddle sore but no worse for the wear ... > David, > > I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to your e-mail. Please note > that it > is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be acceptable to some > servers. > By the way, an older version of this file used to be somewhere in this > Yahoo > Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden had uploaded in 2002. > > If anyone else wants a copy, please send your request to me at > and I'll e-mail one out to you. > > Aaron Caplan From ric.croxton@gmail.com Wed Sep 07 11:10:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57114 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2005 18:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2005 18:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.204) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2005 18:10:44 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so720628wra for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.27 with SMTP id g27mr5340368wrg; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.21 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a050907111027e56e21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:10:44 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <10390f8a0509062155268d0872@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1f4.1167aca7.304fcc32@aol.com> <10390f8a0509062155268d0872@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: ric.croxton@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=ugvP4xQDV1r3P6vw4EtViqlqzTXxyYqfEhKUnxO0L2WIH9imHA X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9/6/05, fugtussey1@aol.com wrote: > > > > David, > > > > I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to your e-mail. Please note > > that it > > is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be acceptable to some > > servers. > > By the way, an older version of this file used to be somewhere in this > > Yahoo > > Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden had uploaded in 2002. > > > > If anyone else wants a copy, please send your request to me at > > fugtussey1@aol.com and I'll e-mail one out to you. > > > > Aaron Caplan > > > > In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:30:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > flagmancomics@yahoo.com writes: > > < > Database)>> > > > > I saw this mentioned in the last digest that came from the group in > > discussion. I googled the database but could not find any info on it. > > Where can I find > > this database that was mentioned? > > > > Is there a good online resource for fanzine publishing info from the > > past? > > > > I would like to see what info is available online about the fanzines I > > published back in the '70s. > > > > Thanks in adavance. > > David > > This database is impressive, it even has my short lived fanzine "Tales From the Attic". I'm suprised anyone even remembers it. Ric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From flagmancomics@yahoo.com Fri Sep 09 12:01:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 45105 invoked by uid 7800); 9 Sep 2005 19:01:55 -0000 X-Sender: flagmancomics@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96818 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2005 18:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2005 18:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.200.102) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2005 18:40:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16546 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2005 18:40:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20050909184010.16544.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.24.70.170] by web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:40:10 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:40:10 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1126183597.256.53585.m20@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.200.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: David Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 513 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70450052; y=V-3L8Z_fLNssBD4Eg4_xvW4QmlQIlaSXaojY5Shr_VZqJL3rIlgUbg X-Yahoo-Profile: flagmancomics X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 9 Sep 2005 19:01:55 -0000 Chris I have some of this stuff around I'll see what I can dig up. David ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Sep 12 09:57:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69412 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2005 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2005 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2005 16:57:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 95808 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2005 16:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?69.199.80.164?) (ditko37@69.199.80.164 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2005 16:55:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4325B2DF.80901@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:54:55 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Ditko letter in YANCY STREET JOURNAL #19 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=IehZSKkByRgO3zwBWR8O4uPskDw4Z9jbC8-e4EzKY-qe X-Yahoo-Profile: gcolan Bahr! I was just rummaging through old emails and found one (from Jan '03) from our friend, Nick Caputo, where he sent me a scan of a Ditko letter from YSJ #19. The scan still doesn't exist, I don't even remember looking at it, and it is not on my checklists. Could someone please resend? Thanks! SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. (Web sites for Steve Ditko & http://www.ditko.comics.org/ Everett / Schomburg / Shores http://www.ess.comics.org/ ) From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Mon Sep 12 12:17:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15406 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2005 19:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2005 19:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.103) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2005 19:17:41 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.14] (rrcs-24-172-9-217.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.217]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j8CJHd1u015677 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <1126352035.258.75309.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1126352035.258.75309.m20@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:17:58 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Originating-IP: 24.25.9.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: Chris Wallace Subject: Diggin' up bones... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573; y=l0EGgEBmPi7tZC94ldpZJp_fESxRz5HLOVwp6OXArvmrqSLZ1rs X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Thanks David! Chris > > Chris I have some of this stuff around I'll see what I > can dig up. > > David > From caputon66@yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 06:31:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55207 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2005 13:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Sep 2005 13:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.45) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2005 13:31:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n16.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2005 13:31:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.74] by mailer6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2005 13:31:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:31:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 411 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.45 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.236.245.243 From: "Nick Caputo" Subject: Yancy Street Journal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59443212; y=J_gIN54HTbUWhHr008IutOIY2_dAVMnCNJxvuRceADDxV4aI X-Yahoo-Profile: caputon66 I was just rereading some of those fine old issues of Yancy Street Journal, a fine publication, especially when it went offset. Stan Lee seemed to be reading it, as FLo Steinberg had a letter in practically every issue, and they also appeared to be corresponding with Ditko, who did a great Dr. Strange cover and sent them news on occasion. Does anyone know what the last issue of YSJ was? Nick Caputo From fugtussey1@aol.com Thu Sep 15 18:47:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75859 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 01:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 01:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 01:47:16 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id r.210.9289b84 (18555) for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <210.9289b84.305b7e1e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:47:10 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=TVB3lznxDwAIqRlk7PHLkdbGGCwbSobbKJ35TIvhe77oSAGK X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick, I'm pretty sure the last issue of YSJ was #12, Jan 1966. By that time, it was in is offset/newspaper format, and it's headline read "Marvel Says No to Picto-Origins," a story explaining why one of the Yancy Street Journal's favorite features (written/illustrated by soon to be Warren editor Bill Dubay) had to be dropped - Marvel lawyers claimed YSJ violated copyright laws. The issue also featured a review of Jules Feiffer's newly published "Great Comic Book Heroes." It also revealed the shocking news that Ditko was leaving Marvel, unmasked Adam Austin as Gene Colan and Mickey Demeo as Mike Esposito. Ahhhh nostalgia .... Aaron Caplan In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:37:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, caputon66@yahoo.com writes: was just rereading some of those fine old issues of Yancy Street Journal, a fine publication, especially when it went offset. Stan Lee seemed to be reading it, as FLo Steinberg had a letter in practically every issue, and they also appeared to be corresponding with Ditko, who did a great Dr. Strange cover and sent them news on occasion. Does anyone know what the last issue of YSJ was? Nick Caputo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From timlstroup@yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 20:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15172 invoked by uid 7800); 16 Sep 2005 03:37:51 -0000 X-Sender: timlstroup@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43834 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 03:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 03:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web54606.mail.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.176) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 03:35:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 8540 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2005 03:35:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20050916033528.8538.qmail@web54606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.239.250.117] by web54606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:35:28 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:35:28 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20050906010404.55837.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.176 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Timothy Stroup Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=198018761; y=4feBztza65U1gUdCUVo_Qz_BIygyDbeVZR4P6tiKhalkHG-skQ X-Yahoo-Profile: timlstroup X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 16 Sep 2005 03:37:51 -0000 David, What fanzines di you publish? If you don't find them on Steve Ogden's list, let me know. I have been updating my version of it. Thanks, - Tim --- David wrote: > < Steve Ogden's > incredible Fanzine Database)>> > > I saw this mentioned in the last digest that came > from > the group in discussion. > I googled the database but could not find any info > on > it. Where can I find this database that was > mentioned? > > Is there a good online resource for fanzine > publishing > info from the past? > > I would like to see what info is available online > about the fanzines I published back in the '70s. > > Thanks in adavance. > David > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief > effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From timlstroup@yahoo.com Thu Sep 15 20:40:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77171 invoked by uid 7800); 16 Sep 2005 03:40:34 -0000 X-Sender: timlstroup@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15133 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 03:38:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 03:38:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web54602.mail.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.172) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 03:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 38574 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2005 03:38:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20050916033827.38572.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.239.250.117] by web54602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:38:27 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <10390f8a050907111027e56e21@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Timothy Stroup Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=198018761; y=GBYnrt7yOHOiKSRee4C_BqEs3U9Hr_UNmUZXLcxQs-iXIc4J1w X-Yahoo-Profile: timlstroup X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 16 Sep 2005 03:40:34 -0000 Ric, Was the information in the database accurate? What was there focus? Can you tell us about them? - Tim --- Ric Croxton wrote: > On 9/6/05, fugtussey1@aol.com > wrote: > > > > > > David, > > > > > > I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to > your e-mail. Please note > > > that it > > > is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be > acceptable to some > > > servers. > > > By the way, an older version of this file used > to be somewhere in this > > > Yahoo > > > Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden > had uploaded in 2002. > > > > > > If anyone else wants a copy, please send your > request to me at > > > fugtussey1@aol.com and I'll e-mail one out to > you. > > > > > > Aaron Caplan > > > > > > In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:30:52 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > > > flagmancomics@yahoo.com writes: > > > < Ogden's incredible Fanzine > > > Database)>> > > > > > > I saw this mentioned in the last digest that > came from the group in > > > discussion. I googled the database but could not > find any info on it. > > > Where can I find > > > this database that was mentioned? > > > > > > Is there a good online resource for fanzine > publishing info from the > > > past? > > > > > > I would like to see what info is available > online about the fanzines I > > > published back in the '70s. > > > > > > Thanks in adavance. > > > David > > > > This database is impressive, it even has my short > lived fanzine "Tales > From the Attic". I'm suprised anyone even remembers > it. > Ric > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From ric.croxton@gmail.com Thu Sep 15 23:04:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 74993 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 06:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 06:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.194) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 06:04:31 -0000 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so382037nzd for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.3 with SMTP id n3mr98943wrd; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.6 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a05091523044cc8648c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:04:30 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20050916033827.38572.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <10390f8a050907111027e56e21@mail.gmail.com> <20050916033827.38572.qmail@web54602.mail.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.194 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Reply-To: ric.croxton@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine Database X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=PF7gbO8k-3izWm3eeChL1LQAAHchL7BbA6MzDewsxWw_6YmwjQ X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The info was correct. Each issue had at least 2 obscure Golden Age reprints, reviews, articles and a text story. Ric On 9/15/05, Timothy Stroup wrote: > > Ric, > > Was the information in the database accurate? What > was there focus? Can you tell us about them? > > - Tim > > --- Ric Croxton wrote: > > > On 9/6/05, fugtussey1@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > I have sent the Fanzine Database directly to > > your e-mail. Please note > > > > that it > > > > is a large 4+ mgbyte Excel file that may not be > > acceptable to some > > > > servers. > > > > By the way, an older version of this file used > > to be somewhere in this > > > > Yahoo > > > > Group. It was a 2-file download that Steve Ogden > > had uploaded in 2002. > > > > > > > > If anyone else wants a copy, please send your > > request to me at > > > > fugtussey1@aol.com and I'll e-mail one out to > > you. > > > > > > > > Aaron Caplan > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:30:52 AM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > > > flagmancomics@yahoo.com writes: > > > > < > Ogden's incredible Fanzine > > > > Database)>> > > > > > > > > I saw this mentioned in the last digest that > > came from the group in > > > > discussion. I googled the database but could not > > find any info on it. > > > > Where can I find > > > > this database that was mentioned? > > > > > > > > Is there a good online resource for fanzine > > publishing info from the > > > > past? > > > > > > > > I would like to see what info is available > > online about the fanzines I > > > > published back in the '70s. > > > > > > > > Thanks in adavance. > > > > David > > > > > > This database is impressive, it even has my short > > lived fanzine "Tales > > From the Attic". I'm suprised anyone even remembers > > it. > > Ric > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Comic book Comic > book store Comic > book artist Comic > book cover Comic > book for sale Dc > comic book > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "comicbookfanzines" > on the web. > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From caputon66@yahoo.com Fri Sep 16 08:34:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: caputon66@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33990 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 15:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 15:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 15:34:08 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n17.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2005 15:33:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.88] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2005 15:33:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:33:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <210.9289b84.305b7e1e@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1549 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.236.245.243 From: "Nick Caputo" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59443212; y=KRz31YlfybqbwPVKidJO8BBtSvnhCM3CN0fK9HiAwng3FzwC X-Yahoo-Profile: caputon66 Hi Aaron, Thanks. I was just looking through that issue and I thought it may have ended around that time, but wasn't sure. That "cease and desist" order was written by Roy Thomas, BTW. Nick Caputo --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@a... wrote: > Nick, > > I'm pretty sure the last issue of YSJ was #12, Jan 1966. By that time, it was > in is offset/newspaper format, and it's headline read "Marvel Says No to > Picto-Origins," a story explaining why one of the Yancy Street Journal's favorite > features (written/illustrated by soon to be Warren editor Bill Dubay) had to > be dropped - Marvel lawyers claimed YSJ violated copyright laws. The issue also > featured a review of Jules Feiffer's newly published "Great Comic Book > Heroes." It also revealed the shocking news that Ditko was leaving Marvel, unmasked > Adam Austin as Gene Colan and Mickey Demeo as Mike Esposito. Ahhhh nostalgia > .... > > Aaron Caplan > > In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:37:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > caputon66@y... writes: > was just rereading some of those fine old issues of Yancy Street > Journal, a fine publication, especially when it went offset. Stan Lee > seemed to be reading it, as FLo Steinberg had a letter in practically > every issue, and they also appeared to be corresponding with Ditko, who > did a great Dr. Strange cover and sent them news on occasion. > > Does anyone know what the last issue of YSJ was? > > Nick Caputo > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Sep 16 08:46:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87228 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 15:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 15:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 15:46:52 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id r.9f.6785df9b (3948) for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9f.6785df9b.305c42e7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:46:47 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5201 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/2005 8:35:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, caputon66@yahoo.com writes: Thanks. I was just looking through that issue and I thought it may have ended around that time, but wasn't sure. That "cease and desist" order was written by Roy Thomas, BTW. Nick Caputo What were the Picto-Origins? I know that G.B. Love had Don Newton recreate the origin of Captain Marvel in 1970 for the Rocket's Blast Special #8 and DC never bothered him about that. The only time I ever heard from anyone was in the 1970s when Tom Sutton was doing art to illustrate articles in the RBCC and would then offer the original art for sale in the same issue. After he did some Adam Strange art to sell in RBCC, some guy wrote a letter to DC complaining about it because he'd approached DC about having original art done of DC heroes that he wanted to sell but DC turned him down. So DC wrote to me explaining that I couldn't sell new art based on its characters that hadn't been solicited by DC itself. I just came across that old letter recently and it was actually nicely worded and I had the impression it had been done reluctantly, and only because some guy had whined to them about it.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Fri Sep 16 14:05:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37179 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 21:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2005 21:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m16.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.206) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2005 21:05:31 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id r.d.4c921b0a (18555) for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:04:51 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Yancy Street Journal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=ZbZw3j2ENdJ0MP9aQw8p2B2FB46Za3AVY6Gw2K1P5UO8HTuv X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, "Picto-Origins" was a feature that Bill Dubay wrote and illustrated in various zines he contributed to in the mid-60's. The basic format was he would recap the origin of a particular comic book character using multiple comic panels and typed captions (always without word balloons), a la EC Picto-Fiction. He would always refer to the specific issue he was recapping. For example, in Comic Reader #39 (July 65), he contributed the 4 page Picto-Origin "The Origin of Sub-Mariner" which was beautifully illustrated (especially since it was produced via spirit duplicator/ditto) and said on the splash page "as originally told in Sub-Mariner #1." Comic Reader #41 featured "The Origin of Dynaman .... as Originally Told in Mystic Comics #6" - again a beautiful 3 page ditto effort. In Yancy Street Journal #10, Dubay presented the Origin of the Blue Blaze "As was originally told in Mystic Comics #1" and in YSJ #11 he featured Namora "As originally told in Marvel Mystery #82." I suspect it was the "As originally told" paraphrasing which incited Marvel to send the cease & desist letter. -Aaron- In a message dated 9/16/2005 11:47:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jimvanhise@aol.com writes: What were the Picto-Origins? I know that G.B. Love had Don Newton recreate the origin of Captain Marvel in 1970 for the Rocket's Blast Special #8 and DC never bothered him about that. The only time I ever heard from anyone was in the 1970s when Tom Sutton was doing art to illustrate articles in the RBCC and would then offer the original art for sale in the same issue. After he did some Adam Strange art to sell in RBCC, some guy wrote a letter to DC complaining about it because he'd approached DC about having original art done of DC heroes that he wanted to sell but DC turned him down.So DC wrote to me explaining that I couldn't sell new art based on its characters that hadn't been solicited by DC itself. I just came across that old letter recently and it was actually nicely worded and I had the impression it had been done reluctantly, and only because some guy had whined to them about it.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mail@1stplace.us Mon Sep 19 14:31:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1stplace.us X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 82691 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2005 21:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2005 21:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoenix.dnsdc.com) (65.254.38.178) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2005 21:31:05 -0000 Received: from pool-162-84-131-125.ny5030.east.verizon.net ([162.84.131.125] helo=D97V5H41.1stplace.us) by phoenix.dnsdc.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EHRtO-0004LM-79 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:05:34 -0400 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20050919172655.025978f8@www.1stplace.us> X-Sender: onemedia@www.1stplace.us X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:30:51 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phoenix.dnsdc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - yahoogroups.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 1stplace.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Originating-IP: 65.254.38.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: My B&W Book Project X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=223262650; y=nqtqxOomgTm74tajYxgrH26gc3iJ6diRnZYuJ7N68OBGh-Da8UTKaJM X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications I have a B&W book project to raise funds for my son Jerry. Right now I have someone working on a 10 page story from one of my ideas and he wants to expand it to 15 pages. I have some 5 page stories from some artists. Also some writers are submitting some stories. Whatever is sent can't be licensed characters. I have received scans of superhero artwork from people but can't use DC and Marvel characters. I'm asking everyone to send anything by email but I will take some by mail but might not be able to return it. I'm using a print on demand publisher so I'm looking for it to be 80 or more pages. While my children's books are for all ages this will be for a little older audience. Please email me with any additional questions. Also anyone can earn some money for themselves or a cause by selling the book. Regards, Aaron Your 1st Place To Visit. http://www.1stplace.us From dlarm1951@aol.com Tue Sep 27 15:11:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28475 invoked by uid 7800); 27 Sep 2005 22:11:43 -0000 X-Sender: DLArm1951@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4295 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2005 21:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2005 21:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2005 21:43:00 -0000 Received: from DLArm1951@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id r.c8.6819933f (16781) for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:38:45 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10705 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: dlarm1951@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] An open call for help... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64684929; y=DdpX8uXxVIvfvudp-byBnGHDBNkTeSWvkVjCR5C-Y31RUBdv_fxdIviw X-Yahoo-Profile: lionsroar2001us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 27 Sep 2005 22:11:43 -0000 Chris: I have ComiCollector #7-9 and 11-13, Komix Illustrated 1-10 (Limbo), and 2 issues of Rocket's Blast between 15-20 (17 & 19 I think). Do you need scans of any of these? Best, David Armstrong [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Thu Sep 29 11:11:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57134 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2005 18:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2005 18:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) (24.25.9.103) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2005 18:11:12 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.15] (rrcs-24-172-9-217.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.217]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j8THNQ1u027551 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <1127911186.233.26941.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1127911186.233.26941.m20@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:23:27 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Originating-IP: 24.25.9.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Chris Wallace Subject: Re: open request for help... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573; y=p6z3THLo5fk26dYJ9C6UhVU_BLVqcLI0Kg_y0oL7qvfigQ9b_lQ X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Thanks David, I will contact you off-list about this. In the meantime, anyone wishing to view a copy of AE #1 (low res and not for reproduction) can hope over to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hard_to_find_comics_exchange/files/ ...where it awaits your arrival. Chris -handsome devil and all-around nice guy.... > Chris: > > I have ComiCollector #7-9 and 11-13, Komix Illustrated 1-10 (Limbo), > and 2 > issues of Rocket's Blast between 15-20 (17 & 19 I think). Do you need > scans of > any of these? From mail@1stplace.us Sun Oct 02 17:22:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1stplace.us X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64625 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2005 00:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2005 00:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoenix.dnsdc.com) (65.254.38.178) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 00:22:31 -0000 Received: from pool-162-83-165-243.ny5030.east.verizon.net ([162.83.165.243] helo=D97V5H41.1stplace.us) by phoenix.dnsdc.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EMCrY-0003Dd-H8 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:03:20 -0400 Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20051002202113.023dfec0@www.1stplace.us> X-Sender: onemedia@www.1stplace.us X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:21:51 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phoenix.dnsdc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - yahoogroups.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 1stplace.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Originating-IP: 65.254.38.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Comic Thoughts... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=223262650; y=tDgu_tYht5Day8FuAlTsQwFMmQYLcg2IvHOeSvSO4SuYLMeP2AkbAx4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications If anyone would like an article, drawing or etc. for my Comics Thoughts project let me know. It's going to a ebook downloadable or print on demand magazine for the Jerry Deutsch Awareness Network. Any questions you can always email me. Regards, Aaron Mr.A. Your 1st Place To Visit. http://www.1stplace.us Your 1st Place To Visit. http://www.1stplace.us From snoopy967@bigpond.com Mon Oct 17 16:04:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 90891 invoked by uid 7800); 17 Oct 2005 23:01:51 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57223 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2005 22:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2005 22:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com) (144.140.93.156) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2005 22:46:30 -0000 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (really [139.168.197.233]) by omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20051017224627.BSCL23411.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@[10.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:46:27 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.344 [267.12.2]); Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:17:09 +0930 Message-ID: <435429ED.8010707@bigpond.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:17:09 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1126098370.359.92367.m20@yahoogroups.com> <38C7B99B-1FC6-11DA-9F0C-000A95E27AE6@triad.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <38C7B99B-1FC6-11DA-9F0C-000A95E27AE6@triad.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com from [139.168.197.233] using ID snoopy967 at Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:46:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 144.140.93.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Daniel Subject: Comics Interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=3ERNLL6fSYz9giLsWoPkyBVfNvA2IeXRqfRDSQhk94O5GmrvB5qlEg X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 17 Oct 2005 23:01:51 -0000 Hi Peoples, Does anyone have a spare copy of Comics Interview #103 that they'd be willing to part with? Either that or is it at all possible to get a scan of the Jim Mooney interview. Cheers Daniel From flagmancomics@yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 21:07:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68734 invoked by uid 7800); 27 Oct 2005 04:07:28 -0000 X-Sender: flagmancomics@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70447 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2005 04:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2005 04:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.201.232) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2005 04:01:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 96345 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2005 04:01:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20051027040128.96341.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.24.109.203] by web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:01:27 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:01:27 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1126611810.1732.35674.m20@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.201.232 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: David Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 515 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70450052; y=Uix8vrJCJYI_-j3Oy6fKQmuGNlCbKdIox4cEC2S8NZH_4DhI6hgfIw X-Yahoo-Profile: flagmancomics X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 27 Oct 2005 04:07:28 -0000 Chris, Sorry for the delaayed response. I was shut down on my ISP for uploading a file with bittorrent for a few weeks. And am just now getting caught up on all the old post in my Yahoo groups. I did find a stack of zines the other day (yes I was actually still thinking of this topic thread and looked) the stack is about 2 feet tall. I noticed Journey Into Comics, Amazing World of DC Comics issues, lots of FOOM! like issue 6-18 I think. And many other zines of all sizes and quality. I'll compile a list and post it asap. David < Subject: Diggin' up bones... Thanks David! Chris > > Chris I have some of this stuff around I'll see what I > can dig up. > > David>> __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From flagmancomics@yahoo.com Wed Oct 26 21:23:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88095 invoked by uid 7800); 27 Oct 2005 04:23:10 -0000 X-Sender: flagmancomics@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7730 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2005 04:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2005 04:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.200.103) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2005 04:22:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 55004 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2005 04:22:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20051027042250.55002.qmail@web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.24.109.203] by web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:22:50 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:22:50 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1126874013.345.18244.m20@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.200.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: David Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 516 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=70450052; y=Uk38Xoum-COR_qMS7S6fGvgH1QxcNAT3AgPp1LLPaWFm-iBNK7nHZQ X-Yahoo-Profile: flagmancomics X-eGroups-Approved-By: gcolan via email; 27 Oct 2005 04:23:10 -0000 Tim sorry for the delayed response, I got booted off my ISP for a few weeks as punishment for uploading a file with bittorrent. I'm just catching up with all my Yahoo Groups. I published quiet a few actually. Most in partnership with Tick inker Kevin Atkinson. I'm sure I'll forget some typing this from memory and the publishing history starts around 1973. I started a company called Hero Comics Inc. Kevin and I were in school and discovered our mutual interest in comics as well as creating them. He was doing his own stuff but not publishing it. I had connections to printing so I offered to publish his stuff under his imprint which was Galaxy Comics. I forget most of the title names now without looking but Gordon Long, Slayer of the Night was one, Freedom Brigade was another. There were about 6 others but they escape me at the moment. Freedom Brigade continued on as a title under my company name, Hero Comics Inc. and so did the rest of the titles from that point on. I remember more of the titles from this phase. Of course there was Freedom Brigade along with these: Hero Premiere, Hero Features, Hero Comics Presents, Untold Origins of Hero Comics, The Vanisher, Dessert Man, Twin Features, Barbarians, Blades & Blood, Jackie Jokers (under the Comedy Comics imprint) Comicdom Fanzine, Fart Funnies (under the Junk Comix imprint), Team Comics (one of the most popular), and the most popular title that even had glossy 3 color covers, Journey Into Fantasy (where my barbarian character Thun-dar was first published only later to be ripped off and turned into a low budget animated cartoon) Later in the 80s we worked on stuff for our Direct Comics imprint but revived Hero in the mid 90s. Last thing related to that was my comic Flagman which came out under my Blue Orbit Press banner and a few ashcans are floating around with Quantum Comics as the publisher too. I have a site that is long overdue for work. herocomics.com which I hope to eventually get all this material that remains in my possession uploaded to. There is a Flagman site also sadly neglected at the moment at flagman.net There is also some of mine and Kevin's art at a new site I'm slowly building for comic fans called toonspot.com If you go to toonspot.com/4images you can view and share files there. There is also a message board forum that just went up and is in need of members. Anyway there is a little background. Of note some of my vintage characters have appeared in some Slave Labor/Amazing Ink titles as guest stars and with cameo's as well as a few other places including appearing in a story with the Flamming Carrot. Well back to the mail pile....... David Price < Subject: Re: Fanzine Database David, What fanzines di you publish? If you don't find them on Steve Ogden's list, let me know. I have been updating my version of it. 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FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Oct 29 07:55:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89019 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2005 14:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2005 14:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m17.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.207) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2005 14:55:25 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.205.d5d4a0b (4380) for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <205.d5d4a0b.3094e737@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:54:47 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5201 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Gene Klien in 1960s fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Something that's recently come to my attention is that back in the 1960s, one Gene Klein (who would come to be known in the 1970s as Gene Simmons of the rock group KISS) was a science fiction fan who contributed to a number of 1960s fanzines, like Pulp Era #65 where he wrote a 2 page article on Doc Savage. Anyone have a list of all the fanzines he contributed to? -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Sat Oct 29 13:35:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 2015 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2005 20:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2005 20:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2005 20:35:46 -0000 Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.62.6099cdca (3924) for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <62.6099cdca.30953716@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:35:34 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gene Klien in 1960s fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=c0hnWql2UMEGSEzzuqTx1LW2Jz1V4Y7fqx8gPk-2fCVGSTCI X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Gene Simmons (aka Gene Simmons, the tongue wagging bass-player of KISS) was= =20 primarily known as the Editor or co-editor of comic book fanzines=20 Cosmostilletto, Tinderbox and Faun but was also a prolific writer of articl= es/letters and=20 submitted art contributions to many SF and comic zines, especially during t= he=20 period of 1966-68. I've collected his fanzine work for quite some time, so = this=20 will be pretty longwinded: Arua 4 1966, published by Richard Flinchbaugh,=20 review of Super Spy 2 mentions Gene Klein in very negative fashion. Fantasy= News 3=20 is also reviewed saying "wasted some offset on the Gene Klein cover which w= as=20 pretty rotten. That really hurts to see offset used for such crap." Bombshell 10 includes Gene Klein 3 page "Hokum" column Bombshell 11 Nov 1967, in LOC, Bruce Williams comments that=20 "Hokum by Gene Klein was interesting" Bombshell 12 Part 2 of =E2=80=9CHokum=E2=80=9D (not sure that= this was=20 actually published) Bombshell 13 Full page art/pin-up (ditto) Comic Comments 9 Ad for Men of Mystery 4, mentioned in ad Comic Feature 5 Several Gene mentions, Cosmostiletto 9 review, Ad= =20 for Super Spy 2 Cosmos 1 Edited by Gene Cosmos 2 Edited by Gene Cosmos 3 Edited by Gene Cosmos 4 Edited by Gene Cosmos 5 Edited by Gene Cosmos 6 Edited by Gene (becomes Cosmostiletto with #7) Cosmostiletto 7 Co-Edited by Gene (continued from Cosmos #6) Cosmostiletto 8 Co-Edited by Gene=20 Cosmostiletto 9 Co-Edited by Gene=20 Cosmostiletto 10 Co-Edited by Gene=20 Cosmostiletto 11 Co-Edited by Gene=20 Cosmostiletto 12 Co-Edited by Gene (becomes Faun with #13) Dynatron 37 Aug 1968, (aka: Vol 32, #61) Short letter from= =20 Gene Klein on Pg. 21 Ecco 4 April 1968, SF fan-fiction zine, 2 small pieces of Klein= =20 art Ecco 5 Review of Faun =E2=80=9C14=E2=80=9D on pg 27, small illo= on pg 5, drawing=20 by Gene Klein (see second scan). Art by Alan Hanley, Seth Dogramajian, Carl= =20 Bobke, Robert E. Gilbert, Doug Smith, Al Williams, Gene Klein and Randy=20 Williams. Cover art by Randy Williams. Exile 2 Column (reported by GK in CS 11) Exile 3 Mar 1968, Ed. Seth Dogramajian. Lots of Gene mentions= =20 and personal references. Seth lived in same Jackson Heights neighborhood as= Gene=20 and was in several bands with Gene. Discusses going with Gene in a band=20 called "Long Island Sounds". Also has Gene penned column called "Sovereign= " on pg=20 29-30 with Gene art on pg 30, plus letter of comment. Jeff Gel even tears=20 apart Gene's previous contrib (Exile 2) in his LOC.=20 Exile 4 Mar 1968, Ed. Seth Dogramajian. Interesting Scarp Con= =20 Report by Gene on pg 7 Fantasy Crossroads 7 1976 Letter from Gene Simmons Fantasy News 3 Cover by Gene=20 Faun 13 Previously called Cosmostiletto, Edited solely by Gene Faun 14 Has 2 covers, top one is same as Cosmostiletto #12, edit= ed=20 by Gene Gore Creatures 9 1966, Published by Gary Svehla. GK=20 letter to the editor=20 Gore Creatures 11 letter to the editor=20 Gore Creatures 12 letter to the editor=20 Gore Creatures 13 letter to the editor; review of Faun 13 Gore Creatures 14 Sept 68, article and a letter to the editor Gore Creatures 22 Letter (editor mentions =E2=80=9CWicked Lester=E2= =80=9D Rock group=20 he was in) Id 1 1969, 2 small illustrations Iscariot 18 (Feb 66): Letter of comment on Pg 16 Iscariot 19 or 20 9 or 20?: Art filler (reported by GK in CS 11)= =20 circa 66 Mantis 1 Edited by Gene (100 copies) Men of Mystery 3 =E2=80=9CNemesis Nebulous Past=E2=80= =9D 2 page article Men of Mystery 4 =E2=80=9CMusings=E2=80=9D column Proper Boskonian 2 Filler art Proper Boskonian 3 (Nov 1968) provided 3 small illustratio= ns=20 (on pgs 9, 18 & =E2=80=9CL3=E2=80=9D), as well as a letter to the editor Proper Boskonian 4 (Mar 1969) provided 3 small illustratio= ns=20 (on pgs 4, 26 & 27), a letter to the editor, and report on pg 30 that =E2= =80=9CGene=20 Klein=E2=80=99s Faun (formerly Cosmostiletto) has folded.=E2=80=9D Pulp Era 65 1966, Article "Doc Savage - Man of Bronze?" One Step Beyond 1 June 1968, 1 page commentary by Gene Kle= in=20 called "Comic Column", Bob Cardoza cover OSFan 21 Art filler (reported by GK in CS 11) =E2=80=9CG= K art is=20 bad=E2=80=9D=20 Osfan 32 Jan 15, 1968 Edited by Hank Luttrell. Newsletter of the=20 Ozark Science Fiction Association. Contains review of Faun #13 edited by K Osfan 33 Feb 13, 1968, Edited by Hank Luttrell. Newsletter of the= =20 Ozark Science Fiction Association. Contains review of Faun #13 edited by Ge= ne=20 Klein and review of Sirruish #6 with mention of art in that issue by Gene Ragnarok 2 Gene Klein letter of comment Ray Gun 1 or 2 Article RBCC 49 Ad for Men of Mystery 4, mentioned in ad Sanctum 8 1 1/2 page letter from Gene Klein Sanctum 9 Gene Klein mentioned in Lynn Wooley's letter Satyr 3 GK in Letter Column Sirruish 3 art filler reported Sirruish 4 1967, Interior art, a mention of Gene in the fanzine=20 review of Starling #9, and letter from Gene Sirruish 5 1967, Issued by the Ozark Science Fiction Association=20 (Missouri fandom group) and edited by Leigh Couch. 64 pages. Gene Klein cov= er and=20 interior art plus LOC, Jack Gaughan, Alexis Gilliland, and others. Great=20 author lineup - Roger Zelazny (his 7 page Guest of honor speech from Ozarko= n 2,=20=20 Alexis Gilliland, book reviews by Robert Vardeman, etc. Letters by Jack=20 Gaughan, Harry Warner, Robert 'Buck' Coulson, and Klein Sirruish 6 Winter 1967, Art and LOC Sirruish 7 July 1968, Art Sirruish 8 August 1968, letter from Gene, published by Ozark Scien= ce=20 Fiction Association (OSFA) , artwork by George Foster & Mike Gilbert. Also= =20 contains the Ozarkon III Guest of Honor speech by Harlan Ellison. Solarite 6? Art filler (reported by GK in CS 11) circa 6= 6 Spectre 5 Edited by Mike Appel, GK article entitled "Uh= h"=20 plus letter of comment Spectre 6 ? Spectre 7 Article, early Kaluta Spectre 8 Column on comics Spectre 9 Klein in abundance (reported by GK in CS 11),= =20 Article Splash Page 2 Article Starling 9 Gene mentioned in Fanzine Review of Starling 9 in=20 Sirruish 4 Super Spy 2 Gene contribution on Get Smart Terror 8 Art filler (reported by GK in CS 11) Thru the Lens 2 Steve Perrin reviews Cosmostiletto in this ish Tinderbox 1 Edited by Gene Trumpet 7 Small illo on page 39 Web Spinner 2 Aug 1965, long Gene Klein letter of comment on pg= s=20 3&4, Gene Klein "The MMMS? You Can keep it! " article on pgs 13/14, Klein=20 "Merry Marvels" column on pgs 21/22, edited by Mike Appel Web Spinner 3 Contribution Web Spinner 4 Feb 1966, 3 page Gene Klein Column "Merry Marvel= =20 ...", Richard Buckler art Web Spinner 5 Contribution Weirdom 7 aka V2, #1: Actually #7, 1.25 page letter, Lett= er=20 to the Editor Illo, Back Cover Art! Weirdom 9 aka V2, #3: Actually *9, Letter Weirdom 11 Gene Klein =E2=80=9CPhoto=E2=80=9D (extremely po= or reproduction-=20 Looks like silhouette)=20 Weirdom 12 Short letter Can anyone add to this list? I am absolutely sure that he contributed to ma= ny=20 more fanzines, as they pop up from time to time. I met him briefly at one o= f=20 the SD Comic-Cons and he is incredibly knowledgeable about the 60's era sil= ver=20 age and was quite a Kirby fan. He said that part of his Kiss costume person= a=20 was based off of Black Bolt's costume from the Fantastic Four. -Aaron Caplan- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sun Oct 30 03:24:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63483 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2005 11:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2005 11:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.61) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2005 11:24:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.64] by n8.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2005 11:23:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by mailer1.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2005 11:23:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.68] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2005 11:23:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 11:23:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 209.240.205.61 From: "jimburns1999" Subject: Craig Calame, Mugsy, THE UNCLE FLOYD SHOW, Rest In Peace X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=y41uHANp_FDAez5mV4Vakw1gVsQ7hbttPLa1qrlXJmUTkBOshMYa X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 This just ruined my weekend.=20 http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=3DeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzJmZn= YmVsN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2ODAwNDQw=20 (Craig Calame Remembered) THE UNCLE FLOYD SHOW was a cult comedy program that began running, DAILY, f= or years, in the mid-70s, out of New Jersey. Many legendary rock bands ap= peared through the years, and there were many genre influenced skits and bi= ts... More significantly, when it was on NBC-New York in the early '80s, i= t was one of the only funny things on, late at night... A few years later, = it became one of the mosty popular series ever, in the history of PBS' The = New Jersey Network.=20 Although I was on a few UNCLE FLOYD SHOWS, acting in skits, I was a fan of = the series, much earlier, and for far longer.=20 Mugsy was one of that wonderfully talented bunch.=20 On the set, Mugsy was fun, kind, and professional.=20 I couldn't begin to count the number of laughs I got, while watching him on= the other set, the one in all of our living rooms. Jim Burns From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Nov 14 07:28:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90130 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2005 15:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2005 15:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.38) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2005 15:28:28 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2005 15:27:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2005 15:27:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:27:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.173.24.106 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Happy 6th Anniversary, SPA! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=UliDe44AYKYgwyL7mH6V7ThNFNkvKqG154Hzk9qn8dH5pg X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello out there in comicdom! It's been a long while since I=20 went out and about to other groups and forums to let people know=20 what's going on in the SPA. It's been a rough year for us, but we're=20 pulling through. I had an operation on my foot which had it up in=20 the air for months, and we've been doing a ton of website redesign=20 work in this downtime period as well. But the SPA is back on the=20 Upswing, with so much new stuff, I'm not even going to try to list=20 it all. Doesn't matter, not why I'm here. It's now the SPA's 6th anniversary =96 and we'd like to renew=20 the call out we made 6 years ago. If you are a writer, artist,=20 publisher, musician, filmmaker or animator, or a fan of the indy=20 scene, then we're looking for help in building MORE new tools for=20 use in making the indy scene everything it can be. In our 6 years of=20 going at it, we have built a printing service, an online=20 distribution system (complete with print catalog for retailers), an=20 annual contest (Small Press Idol), and more. But there are numerous=20 things that the SPA would like to be working on that we simply need=20 more hands actively pursuing with us. Things like our How To=20 section, sorely in need of articles, Things like our Hall Of Fame=20 idea, which, well, we don't even know WHAT we need to get THAT where=20 we'd like to see it, but hey, we think big. Things like our Teaching=20 Materials program, sorely in need of people in charge of it to bring=20 a concerted effort. There are, out there, a thousand different efforts being=20 made to make a better comicdom in this internet age. Why is the SPA=20 different? Simple dedication. No amount of nay saying or negativity=20 can convince an SPA member that we can't change the world, if we=20 work collectively, and WITH other websites, to make things better.=20 So we hope that this post will at least spark some talk wherever you=20 may have found it posted. I will be doing my best to follow up on it. If you're interested in just a sample of what we're talking=20 about in the SPA right now, check this out:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3D154 From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Nov 14 07:55:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81083 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2005 15:55:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2005 15:55:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2005 15:55:54 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.143.51d468f6 (26116) for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:47:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <143.51d468f6.30aa0b85@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:47:17 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Happy 6th Anniversary, SPA! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to your website, which isn;t very helpful. There is no info page which explains what you are, your intent or even what SPA means, as though anyone going there must already know what you are. When I tried to create a new account and clicked on continue, it just kept taking me back to that same page, repeatedly, and I was unable to create an account, and therefore unable to visit the pages on your site.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon Nov 14 08:15:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12529 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2005 16:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2005 16:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta13.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.44) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2005 16:15:03 -0000 Received: from DIMESTORE1 ([69.173.24.106]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051114161411.KVUP9413.mta13.adelphia.net@DIMESTORE1> for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:14:11 -0500 To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:14:02 -0500 Message-ID: <051f01c5e936$6d8648f0$6401a8c0@DIMESTORE1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcXpNHA0x2TFBSA8SPWU9Cf9b8vbWgAAY5fA In-Reply-To: <143.51d468f6.30aa0b85@aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.168.78.44 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Happy 6th Anniversary, SPA! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=YSD7X9hf_IZzB3vtDAMcFpIKylr078UHea23rdXElbQixQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Info page: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/index.asp it's on the forum navigation as SPA Pages, and in the main site as The SPA in it's navigation. As for your trouble creating an account: It sounds like your computer is not accepting the cookie it needs to use to log a person in. If you'd like help getting an account created, please e-mail me and we'll figure it out for you. Ian Shires Dimestore Productions P.O. Box 214 Madison, OH 44057 www.dimestoreproductions.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimvanhise@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:47 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Happy 6th Anniversary, SPA! I went to your website, which isn;t very helpful. There is no info page which explains what you are, your intent or even what SPA means, as though anyone going there must already know what you are. When I tried to create a new account and clicked on continue, it just kept taking me back to that same page, repeatedly, and I was unable to create an account, and therefore unable to visit the pages on your site.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Comic book Comic book store Comic book artist Comic book cover Comic book for sale Dc comic book _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "comicbookfanzines " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Tue Nov 15 14:48:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41995 invoked by uid 7800); 15 Nov 2005 22:48:58 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 78951 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2005 16:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2005 16:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2005 16:55:15 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2005 16:54:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.68] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2005 16:54:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:54:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <62.6099cdca.30953716@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: John G. Fantuccio X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=cfjhMqxvuk5EiI0OXx1czr34Hmgz3a75ImS7OCdwLth6IpA X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: via email; 15 Nov 2005 22:48:58 -0000 My fave fan artist was John G. He actually did a story for Creepy or one of the Warren pubs. It looked a bit cramped. The scripted forced about 9 panels a page, as I recall. John G. was THE most unique stylist I EVER saw. Loved his work. I've seen some reprinted recently and it has lost none of its attraction. Does anyone know what John G. did career-wise? Where he is now? It wd be wonderful if someone pub'd a compilation of his covers. James Van H? I know we've corresponded on this years ago--tho you probly don't remember. Of course the market doesn't support this sort of thing...and tracking down the work wd be hard...but you might have a small boodle of RBCC covers, maybe? Any chance of scanning one or two and posting in files to share with the group to show them the greatness of the man? Maybe build a little market support while yr at it? hint hint. From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Nov 15 14:54:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90145 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2005 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2005 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2005 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.207.e7119f0 (25711) for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:54:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <207.e7119f0.30abc117@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:54:15 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] John G. Fantuccio X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/15/2005 2:50:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, LINCOLNyaco@aol.com writes: Does anyone know what John G. did career-wise? Where he is now? As I understand it he was a commercial artist. He did a lot of fanzine art in the 1960s and 1970s, then abruptly dropped out. I don't know why. I was able to contact him a few years ago (in 2000), and he was friendly to the contact but declined doing an interview.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Thu Nov 17 11:06:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22050 invoked by uid 7800); 17 Nov 2005 19:06:45 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 18363 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2005 16:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2005 16:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.62) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2005 16:58:13 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.65] by n9.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2005 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by mailer2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2005 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.90] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2005 16:57:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:57:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <207.e7119f0.30abc117@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.62 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Re: John G. Fantuccio X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=p30Ytnlny-HDF8fySAg_8GIat2AC_x2ZQMLXsznKnGXMBzU X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: via email; 17 Nov 2005 19:06:45 -0000 I'm happy he made a go of it in the art field. But I REALLY wish he was open to an interview. What a shame. What do you think of a small folio of his work? Any possibility? --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@a... wrote: to contact him a few years ago (in 2000), and he was friendly to the contact but declined doing an interview.--JVH From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Thu Nov 17 11:06:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84659 invoked by uid 7800); 17 Nov 2005 19:06:54 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89307 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2005 17:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2005 17:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.53) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2005 17:08:07 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n24.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2005 17:05:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.90] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2005 17:05:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:05:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <207.e7119f0.30abc117@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=JUDaGO0N7Vst7JEKITp8Arvj89aKaXS0MXT3si6vx4Xwjw8 X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: via email; 17 Nov 2005 19:06:54 -0000 on an unrelated matter, or marginally related: These two gents were, IMHO, 2 of the most driving fan forces in the late 60s. Good writers, researchers AND artists. They each had one pagers they did in their zines that were surprisingly well done. REALLY. Perhaps not quite pro material but very good. And very inventive. Later in the game, Greim got to pencil a short comic inked by Adkins. The result was superb. Greim was the senior of the two, as I recall. He struck up a relationship with Steranko and featured an interview with sketche by him, as I recall. A pretty unique accomplishment for a little zine. He was a pretty accomplished self-publisher. I'm curious. I was very young at the time. Do the older fans in the group know what was the general perception of these two? Were they recognized as major forces or considered peripheral? Were my youthful perceptions skewed? I was quite impressed! Still am! =3Dlink From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Nov 17 12:50:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12265 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2005 20:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2005 20:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2005 20:50:24 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.154.5cd0dfa9 (3699) for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:50:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <154.5cd0dfa9.30ae46fe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:50:06 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/17/2005 11:07:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, LINCOLNyaco@aol.com writes: Greim was the senior of the two, as I recall. He struck up a relationship with Steranko and featured an interview with sketche by him, as I recall. A pretty unique accomplishment for a little zine. He was a pretty accomplished self-publisher. Greim did a number of nice issues of Comic Crusader and then abruptly stopped in the 1970s. He could be odd. When G.B. Love bought 50 copies of the Steranko issue (which retailed for 50 cents each, though G.B. got them at 30 cents each), and G.B. resold them for $1.00 each, Greim was outraged at G.B.'s price-gouging. It was silly then and is still silly now. There were a number of pubs like that which 'zine eds seemed determined to sell as cheaply as possible, and then would fold their tents because publishing was "too expensive" to continue. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Fri Nov 18 03:37:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23753 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2005 11:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2005 11:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.39) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2005 11:37:04 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2005 11:36:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2005 11:36:31 -0000 X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 80021 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2005 09:39:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2005 09:39:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.52) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2005 09:39:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n23.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2005 09:39:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2005 09:39:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:39:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <154.5cd0dfa9.30ae46fe@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.52 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=_739esbt_80PoMHvyqXxuDpXFEXLzbPyOelz-ebk3w9gf7Q X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 18 Nov 2005 11:36:28 -0000 I seem to recall some similar incidents. Fans of that era could be very naive. Especially in the economic area. Almost as if they wanted to be be socialist or communist or invent a new system of econmics. I think some of their capitalist suspicions were born of experience with underhanded dealers, which were more common then. There were fewer regulatory options available.=20 I just remembered that Greim was the master of the swipe pastiche. He was gifted at pulling references from many sources and putting them together in a cohesive whole. No mean feat. Something Wood did, on a lesser scale. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 11/17/2005 11:07:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 > LINCOLNyaco@a... writes: >=20 > Greim was the senior of the two, as I recall. He struck up a > relationship with Steranko and featured an interview with sketche by > him, as I recall. A pretty unique accomplishment for a little zine. He > was a pretty accomplished self-publisher. >=20 >=20 > Greim did a number of nice issues of Comic Crusader and then abruptly = =20 > stopped in the 1970s. He could be odd. When G.B. Love bought 50 copies of the=20=20 > Steranko issue (which retailed for 50 cents each, though G.B. got them at 30 cents=20 > each), and G.B. resold them for $1.00 each, Greim was outraged at=20 G.B.'s=20 > price-gouging. It was silly then and is still silly now. There were a number of=20 > pubs like that which 'zine eds seemed determined to sell as cheaply as = =20 > possible, and then would fold their tents because publishing was "too expensive" to=20 > continue.=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tmhamilton@aol.com Sat Nov 19 09:06:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27457 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2005 17:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Nov 2005 17:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2005 17:06:29 -0000 Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.78.7f87b971 (57317) for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:06:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78.7f87b971.30b0b57a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:06:02 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6811 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3364560; y=2FeoRDNi3S8Q8cTHNtCDoghoODGCh-SDy_0UJLKGAoY28zPecZlwiWY X-Yahoo-Profile: juliusschwartz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have always really enjoyed the work of these two gentlemen; their respective 'zines rank very high on my list of great early efforts. I wish complete runs of Comic Crusader and Champion were in my collection (anyone have a Champion #5 or CC #1 or 3?). They are well worth searching out. As I recall Martin developed some eye problems that seriously impaired his ability to continue to work on Comic Crusader. Plus, by the time their 'zines were wrapping up, we had entered the era of the "prozine", and while they had pro contributions these were proudly fan productions. I too was impressed that they coaxed regular contributions from Steranko, and that alone made me want to get each issue of CC. However, they also offered many articles on characters I had barely heard of. Many of these articles - especially those by Tom Fagan, such as his 2 part Airboy overview - were educational and interesting on their own merits. Other great art by Fantucchio, Newton, Fujitake, Kato, Fritz, as well as the two editors. Given that this was fan work, I was never bothered by the "swipes". Hard to complain when using Wood and Manning as sources, and it was all creatively staged. The fact that it was printed offset was also a plus to readability. I don't know if they were major forces or not, but they certainly ranked up there with 2 fine 'zines. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Cartomancer@netzero.net Sun Nov 20 01:26:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 78728 invoked by uid 7800); 20 Nov 2005 09:26:09 -0000 X-Sender: Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88659 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 04:26:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 04:26:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail.nyc.untd.com) (64.136.20.164) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 04:26:42 -0000 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABBZ98YRACPX55J for (sender ); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:25:51 -0800 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17966 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 04:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yourc8bh3jaglt) (4.156.96.33) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 04:25:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c5ed8a$664cb4e0$21609c04@yourc8bh3jaglt> To: References: <78.7f87b971.30b0b57a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:55:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ContentStamp: 28:14:108242110 X-MAIL-INFO:141c89fce12c952d3c1d29a538b98df9853d88a5ed3559ad7cad951599e8bc38f5aded31c9cce9ac555519ec197de9fc79fca8986859e8f1e8658c615915c529c1095d1de86c0d78ec2cc5cc55259c9cb1fcd5550d794cfc65e5bd2c896878790c08a5d158658df92cd9bdb839612c58f9cdb57c397c3111 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: C0dRuh5FKnTyRAzO4cZSEWk7omLqzTVx85JlH8H9jOwmSv267fr0ekwt08prUx3K X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.140.24.121|smtp01.nyc.untd.com|outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com|Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Originating-IP: 64.136.20.164 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162; y=00C3c3TQJIH7XI-Xm27rbvsy2hI_c_89wTUj59W7xTt5x8xpbmM X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 20 Nov 2005 09:26:09 -0000 I see Marty at local shows from time to time. He steadfastly refuses to allow articles from CC to be reprintedg in ALTER EGO and the like becuase he says that would be unfair to fans who own the original CC. Apparently he thinks they will be less valuable if ransacked for reprints. I can't understand this thinking. What about keeping historic interviews in print for future genertations? --Will --Will ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove >I have always really enjoyed the work of these two gentlemen; their > respective 'zines rank very high on my list of great early efforts. I > wish complete > runs of Comic Crusader and Champion were in my collection (anyone have a > Champion #5 or CC #1 or 3?). They are well worth searching out. > > As I recall Martin developed some eye problems that seriously impaired his > ability to continue to work on Comic Crusader. Plus, by the time their > 'zines > were wrapping up, we had entered the era of the "prozine", and while they > had > pro contributions these were proudly fan productions. > > I too was impressed that they coaxed regular contributions from Steranko, > and > that alone made me want to get each issue of CC. However, they also > offered > many articles on characters I had barely heard of. Many of these > articles - > especially those by Tom Fagan, such as his 2 part Airboy overview - were > educational and interesting on their own merits. Other great art by > Fantucchio, > Newton, Fujitake, Kato, Fritz, as well as the two editors. > > Given that this was fan work, I was never bothered by the "swipes". Hard > to > complain when using Wood and Manning as sources, and it was all creatively > staged. The fact that it was printed offset was also a plus to > readability. > > I don't know if they were major forces or not, but they certainly ranked > up > there with 2 fine 'zines. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > From mgilbert00@comcast.net Sun Nov 20 06:20:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: mgilbert00@comcast.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41353 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 14:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 14:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc13.comcast.net) (63.240.77.83) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 14:20:56 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.27] (c-24-20-203-86.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.203.86]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20051120142040013003ag3qe>; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:20:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <1132493179.162.11411.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1132493179.162.11411.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-Id: <343BBF46-C462-472A-88BA-D95E8BA903F7@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:20:37 -0800 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Originating-IP: 63.240.77.83 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: "Michael T. Gilbert" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 528 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=184343886; y=onGbCSb-_cyB_rKsbe9KiGEw_arkm7G4phgg5bNnqR6tQLwFiOs X-Yahoo-Profile: mrmonster00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Will: I can't understand that thinking at all either. I'm happy to say have a number of the Comic Crusaders, but would have no problem having stories from issues I bought reprinted. Honestly, I think it's more "unfair" for newer fans who weren't around back then to have to pay premium prices for vintage fanzines if they want to read those articles and interviews. Or worse yet, never get to read them at all! Jeese, the articles came out over 30 years ago in many cases. By now even those articles are historical, and thereby worthy of reprinting, just from how long ago when they were written! I hope someday Marty rethinks his position and publishes the The Best Of Comic Crusader. Best wishes, Michael T. On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:26 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:55:16 -0500 > From: "Will Murray" > Subject: Re: Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove > > > I see Marty at local shows from time to time. He steadfastly > refuses to > allow articles from CC to be reprintedg in ALTER EGO and the like > becuase he > says that would be unfair to fans who own the original CC. > Apparently he > thinks they will be less valuable if ransacked for reprints. > > I can't understand this thinking. What about keeping historic > interviews > in print for future genertations? > > --Will [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sun Nov 20 07:10:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 46968 invoked by uid 7800); 20 Nov 2005 15:10:40 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92886 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 15:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 15:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.54) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 15:04:44 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 15:03:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.77] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 15:03:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:03:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <154.5cd0dfa9.30ae46fe@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.54 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.8.145.26 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=As91YIowIp5cH9hD_en6txhtrs9dPUEATB8uNXP9ydFYpjHUzGM X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 20 Nov 2005 15:10:40 -0000 Nice to see folks posting on this site, and some names I'm familiar=20 with-- like Jim Van Hise, whose name I've heard in fandom for many=20 years, but I just ran in different fandom circles I guess-- so I=20=20 never had contact with him. Until now, that is(Hi, Jim! Nice to=20 make your acquaintance after all these years.). Anway, I think I have a few issues of COMIC CRUSADER amidst my small=20 press collection, which goes back to the late 1960s when I first=20 became involved (thanks to LARRY IVIE'S MONSTERS AND HEROES and=20 FAMOUS MONSTERS MAGAZINE, which first informed me that such a thing=20 as fandom existed). I always thought Marty Greim was a good writer,=20 and enjoyed his articles in Alan Light's BUYER'S GUIDE. Weird that=20 he won't allow reprints, hope he changes his mind someday. I can=20 say that I haven't enjoyed CBG very much since those days, the=20 fannish feeling evaporated somewhere along the line, and it just=20 hasn't seemed that interesting since. --Steve Keeter=20=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 11/17/2005 11:07:43 A.M. Pacific Standard=20 Time,=20=20 > LINCOLNyaco@a... writes: >=20 > Greim was the senior of the two, as I recall. He struck up a > relationship with Steranko and featured an interview with sketche=20 by > him, as I recall. A pretty unique accomplishment for a little=20 zine. He > was a pretty accomplished self-publisher. >=20 >=20 > Greim did a number of nice issues of Comic Crusader and then=20 abruptly=20=20 > stopped in the 1970s. He could be odd. When G.B. Love bought 50=20 copies of the=20=20 > Steranko issue (which retailed for 50 cents each, though G.B. got=20 them at 30 cents=20 > each), and G.B. resold them for $1.00 each, Greim was outraged at=20=20 G.B.'s=20 > price-gouging. It was silly then and is still silly now. There=20 were a number of=20 > pubs like that which 'zine eds seemed determined to sell as=20 cheaply as=20=20 > possible, and then would fold their tents because publishing=20 was "too expensive" to=20 > continue.=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Nov 20 08:06:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1604 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 16:06:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 16:06:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 16:06:10 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.156.5d170e68 (57365) for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:05:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <156.5d170e68.30b1f8d0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:05:36 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/20/2005 7:11:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, stevekeeter@yahoo.com writes: Weird that he won't allow reprints, hope he changes his mind someday. Unless the articles were written by him, reprints would be up to whoever wrote them. And reprinting the art is up to the artists. I don't understand why he doesn't just do an omnibus reprint of Comic Crusader himself. I only have a few issues myself and I bought them when they were new, 30 years ago. They're not exactly easy to find so who would reprints be unfair to? -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Nov 20 09:37:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37151 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 17:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 17:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.54) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 17:37:05 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 17:34:38 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 17:34:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:34:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <156.5d170e68.30b1f8d0@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.54 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Martin L. Greim & Bob Cosgrove X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=prqIgoqLw-E2BsEPLKX40LNWZVU-00XDmkxp7fneSPuC0L0 X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco Hmmm. Not to be gossipy, but that does seem odd. Sort of dog in the manger attitude. And kind of egotistical to assume that their zines will ever gain much value. They are more likely to shoot themselves in the foot by removing themselves from comic fan history if they refuse to let their work to be reprinted. I was wondering why their names didn't crop up more. Now I see why. GREIM was the one putting up the roadblocks. He's getting in his own way. And not for the first time. Well, it's his life, I guess. It's a shame, but he's entitled. He still has my respect as a historical fan figure. And I don't mean to slight Cosgrove by any means. In fact, I always wanted to see more of his stuff but couldn't afford BOTH of their zines back then... Let's not forget the sheer economics of the sitch, gents. Not everybody could afford to BUY all the zines they wanted back then. In a way he's penalizing people for limited budgets in 1969ish. What kind of weird economics philosphy does he have? I thought he Socialist? Capitalist? Well, people change, I spose. I've been all over the map. I've forgotten what my current stance is. I was working on games theory the last time I left off, but I forget where that left me in the political spectrum...Adam Smith, where are you when we need you? Hey, it's only lines on paper, as R. Crumb says. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@a... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 11/20/2005 7:11:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 > stevekeeter@y... writes: >=20 > Weird that=20 > he won't allow reprints, hope he changes his mind someday. >=20 >=20 > Unless the articles were written by him, reprints would be up to whoever=20=20 > wrote them. And reprinting the art is up to the artists. I don't understand why=20 > he doesn't just do an omnibus reprint of Comic Crusader himself. I only have=20=20 > a few issues myself and I bought them when they were new, 30 years ago.=20 > They're not exactly easy to find so who would reprints be unfair to? -- James Van=20=20 > Hise >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Nov 20 09:39:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69477 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2005 17:39:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Nov 2005 17:39:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.54) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2005 17:39:08 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n25.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 17:39:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2005 17:39:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:39:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000301c5ed8a$664cb4e0$21609c04@yourc8bh3jaglt> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.54 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: gushing fan letter to Will Murray X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=BXFbntJ5jGaMgRDoySW9swKpWy_oq2GflKP8pYUYQLa10bQ X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco Will, hope you don't mind, but I just have tell you that I enjoy your articles immensely. I am vastly impressed with how well they are researched and how carefully they are put together. Very good writing. It's a pleasure to see such well-crafted language. Solid as a rock. Lovely stuff. OK, I'll stop now. I can see you blushing. Never shd have had that video card installed.=20 From Cartomancer@netzero.net Mon Nov 21 11:34:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 45054 invoked by uid 7800); 21 Nov 2005 19:34:53 -0000 X-Sender: Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57335 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2005 18:06:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2005 18:06:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail.nyc.untd.com) (64.136.20.164) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2005 18:06:43 -0000 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp03.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.123]) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABB2EDEAAXEL2MS for (sender ); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:05:52 -0800 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18162 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2005 18:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yourc8bh3jaglt) (4.156.177.129) by smtp03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2005 18:05:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000101c5eec6$36faf980$81b19c04@yourc8bh3jaglt> To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:02:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ContentStamp: 2:2:2453520374 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: C0dRuh5FKnTyRAzO4cZSEWk7omLqzTVxya3rnkGBmwarmnPRnkeSb9aVRUAX6sox X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.140.24.123|smtp03.nyc.untd.com|outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com|Cartomancer@netzero.net X-Originating-IP: 64.136.20.164 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4:0 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] gushing fan letter to Will Murray X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162; y=Mc-pHag9vAgjGbzmUFBen4lboyvyb4ITxcb83BxZ-4n6N9-XJkY X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 21 Nov 2005 19:34:53 -0000 Thanks for your kind words, Linc. I put a lot of work into these pieces to get them that good. While I'm posting, does anyone know of a good Gary Friedrich interview where he comments of co-creating the morotcycle Ghost Rider. Need a solid quote for an article. --Will From LyleTucker@cableone.net Mon Nov 21 15:22:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 80910 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2005 23:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2005 23:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO S4.cableone.net) (24.116.0.230) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2005 23:22:35 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.117.112.108]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 37534595 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:26:29 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <43824515.10605@cableone.net> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:07:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1132149319.1610.88784.m20@yahoogroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1132149319.1610.88784.m20@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=879, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.112.108 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Originating-IP: 24.116.0.230 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 526 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380; y=mISsj8_gWONvLWanOnhWoqXUcjKEx6KzhHAOuTlZM9xZCx8oPQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker > From: "Lincoln Yaco" >Subject: John G. Fantuccio > > >John G. was THE most unique stylist I EVER saw. > Gotta say that I agree with ya there, Linc! While I don't believe his style always worked, it was usually immediately recognizable, and at times brilliant. My hat's always off to those guys who develop a style that can be truly called uniquely their own. -- Lyle Tucker "The comfort of the rich depends upon the abundance of the poor" -- Voltaire From beerbohm@teknetwork.com Wed Nov 23 18:04:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75624 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2005 02:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2005 02:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unreademail.com) (64.47.33.17) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2005 02:04:34 -0000 Received: from [4.228.168.128] (unverified [4.228.162.109]) by pluto (SurgeMail 3.0c2) with ESMTP id 142085659 for multiple; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:04:00 -0600 Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: beerbohm@teknetwork.com@64.47.33.14 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:04:19 -0600 To: cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Originating-IP: 64.47.33.17 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4:0 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Cool Old Comics For Sale Web Site Nov 2005 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1269686; y=w_8dh-I5DZZGv95NykgPl8yRlE2Td2VUeVwmj0lGuTAPXHHr X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 http://www.blbcomics.com Hello - We just revamped our growing web site againof classic old comics & related material for sale and trade as of November 22 - if you have a moment, please check it out. 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We update aspects of the site every week as new acquisitons come into the vault. We carry comics material from 1850s thru the 1970s. In addition to 50,000 pre 1980 comic books for sale in a general alpha list covering the gamut of what has been published, so far there are also these specialized lists broken down by Genre with more being devised weekly: Archie Humor Big Little Books, Pop-ups, etc 1932-1960s Classics Illustrated Crime Pre Code 1945-1955 Comics Magazines,Fanzines, Tabloids Walt Disney Comics & Books 1931-1980 Golden Age Pre Code 1936-1955 Horror Pre Code Platinum and Victorian Era 1851-1938 Romance/Teen Humor 1946-1980 TV/Movie/Radio 1940s-1980 War 1940-1980s Westerns 1940-1980 Plus lots of newspaper comic strip characters represented from 1900 on up I also notate artists on most of the thousands of comics listed such as Neal Adams, Anderson, Aparo, Aragones, Matt Baker, Barks, Beck, Berg, Biro, Bode, Briggs, Brunner, Capp, Cardy, Colan, Jack Cole, LB Cole, Corben, Craig, Crandall, Crosby, Crumb, Davis, DeBeck, DeCarlo, Deitch, Dirks, Ditko, Dwiggins, Eisner, Elder, Evans, Everett, Fago, Feldstein, Fine, Fisher, Foster, Fox, Frazetta, Frost, Glanzman, Golden, Gould, Harold Gray, Justin Green, Rick Griffin, Grossman, Hatlo, Hayes, Heath, Herriman, Howarth, Infantino, Ingels, Irons, Jaxon, Jones, Kaluta, Kamen, Gil Kane, Katz, Keifer, Kelly, Keppler, King, Kintsler, Kirby, Krenkel, Krigstein, Kurtzman, Kubert, Lynch, Maneely, Manning, Marsh, Hy Mayer, Shelly Mayer, McCay, McDougall, McManus, Messner, Metzger, Miller, Morrow, Moscoso, Newton, Nino, Nostrand, Opper, Orlando, Outcault, Payne, Ploog, Raboy, Raymond, Reese, Russell, Sale, Schrier, Segar, Severin, Shelton, Sheridan, Simon, S&K, Al Smith, Barry Smith, Sidney Smith, Spain, Spiegelm= an, Stanley, Starlin, Steranko, Sutton, Swinnerton, Todd, Torres, Toth, Tripp, Tufts, Tuska, Whitney, Williams, Williamson, Wolverton, Wood, Woolf,=20 Wrightson, among others. We also buy material by any of the above artists if we need it plus lots of other related material. I give decent discounts to all on many of the thousands upon=20 thousands of items listed - My apologies for any cross posts you might encounter. thanks for looking and hope to hear from you --=20 Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont, Nebraska 68026 beerbohm@teknetwork.com (402)-727-4071 http://www.blbcomics.com --=20 From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed Nov 23 21:21:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40830 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2005 05:21:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2005 05:21:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.60) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2005 05:21:29 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.65] by n7.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2005 05:21:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by mailer2.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2005 05:21:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.70] by mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2005 05:21:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:21:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 209.240.205.61 From: "jimburns1999" Subject: 1933 KING KONG: Thanksgivings, on the Edge of Forever X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=y5aJ7XyP4CGupchR-kHoKsyXZuIlfTcWmZary3q9GYb0XVJRxi80 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 =20 As a Thanksgiving bonus--=20 :-)=20 Here's a preview from my piece on New York's strange, but fascinating, trad= ition, of running KING KONG, on Thanksgiving. The screenings lasted for ove= r ten years, through 1985...=20 A couple of you here, helped add to the research for this:=20 My thanks!=20 It was a pleasure to write about my old friend, Chris Steinbrunner. Chris d= id more for pop culture, and fantasy fans, than is remembered, today. Aside= from his work at WOR, and articles and books, Chris, at times, was heavily= involved with fandom, including providing many of the movie shows for Phil= Seuling's innovative comic book conventions, and New York's Lunacon scienc= e fiction conventions.=20 (Phil Seuling is another name that isn't mentioned often enough, today. He = helped start the whole comic book convention business, fulfilling the promi= se of the early gatherings run by such folks as Bernie Bubnis, and Dave Kal= er, and essentially invented the direct sales comic book-store distribution= business (Bill Morse, from the Village Comic Shop, in New York's Greenwich= Village, may also have been one of the early pioneers, in specialty distri= bution).=20 Chris and I had spoken of Channel 9's KING KONG Festivals, back in the '80s= ,.but NONE of us, none of Chris' old circle of friends, could swear with ce= rtainty, that it was Steinbrunner who came up with the idea, of showing the= classic, on the holiday.=20 One other thought:=20 At some point after the KONG marathons began, WOR-TV, Channel 9, became a "= Super Station," aired on cable systems, all over the United States (like Te= d Turner's TBS).=20 It's quite possible that--barring local blackouts of the movie, due to conf= licting rights coverage--what many of us have always thought of as a local = New York tradition, played in MANY parts of the United States, on the fourt= h Thursday, in November...=20 Happy Holidays!=20 Jim Burns (James H. Burns) _____________ "1933 KING KONG, and Thanksgivings on the Edge of Forever" James H. Burns =20 No one knows exactly who first thought of broadcasting KING KONG on Thanksg= iving.=20 "It might well have been Chris Steinbrunner," says John Cocci, whose J.C. F= ilm Archives, in Brooklyn, a movie material resource, has provided research= for WOR, and American Movie Classics. Steinbrunner, a lifetime Middle Vil= lage, Queens resident (who passed away, in 1993), joined WOR shortly after = graduating Fordham University, in the early 1950s. He eventually programmed= Channel 9's then daily, afternoon, evening, and late-night movies.=20 (Steinbrunner also contributed jokes, occasionally, to his friend, cult fav= orite horror host, John Zacherley, when Zach moved his trend-setting monste= r movie show from ABC, to WOR, in 1959. ("I told Chris that I wanted to sho= w "KING KONG," Zacherley quipped, a while back. "But WOR wouldn't let me ha= ve it!"))=20 A genre buff, Steinbrunner wrote a monthly column for ELLERY QUEEN'S MYSTER= Y MAGAZNE; won the Mystery Writers of America's coveted Edgar Award; and de= voted a chapter to KING KONG in 1972's CINEMA OF THE FANTASTIC, one of the = first books published, about fantasy and science fiction movies.=20 "Chris had loved KONG since childhood," says Cocci.=20 Although RKO produced KONG, and its offshoot, RKO General, owned WOR, the c= orporation had sold the rights to all of its pre-1948 movies to United Arti= sts, in the 1960s.=20 "Somehow, Channel 9 still had, or had gotten back, the rights to air KONG. = So, scheduling it, should have been easy."=20 =A9 Copyright 2005 James H. Burns From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Nov 27 09:09:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84571 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2005 17:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Nov 2005 17:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.37) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2005 17:09:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 17:07:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 17:07:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:07:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Dan O'Neil's AIR PIRATES! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=3nhhoaLAY0WqNKdoAUG_yJZHmY6c7j-iqMvuvhzco1E2dt4 X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco Anybody remember AIR PIRATES? Sued by Disney, long out of print? You can get scans of this fannish underground if you read the following. but if yr a novice at computers, be forewarned. The software at this site MIGHT fill yr RAM up and you will have to find ways to dump it as you work. Also, often the files you save MIGHT be corrupted. They are EASY to fix if you just use Photoshop to open and resave. But this is a great search tool that accesses the usenet.=20 It is slow and clumsy to use so be patient. Just go to http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/archive type COMICS in the search bar then, beneath, and beneath select image files JPG, GIF, PNG, and BMP for good measure. then click on GO or whatever When I did it, one of the first few pages it brought up was AIR PIRATES! But it's constantly changing as people add things so I can't guarantee it will stay that way forever. From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Nov 27 09:26:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7844 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2005 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Nov 2005 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.201.61) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2005 17:26:54 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.64] by n8.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 17:26:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by mailer1.bulk.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 17:26:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.73] by mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 17:26:17 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:26:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.201.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Re: Dan O'Neil's AIR PIRATES!--addtl instrctions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=_6ybr6lEdK_OPCZgQhQNKvzeuwxupA_v6HD6GxAIzVBqr2k X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco sorry, forgot: change "LAST IN-FIRST OUT" to "TEMPORAL ORDER" and change "90 OBJECTS" to "240 OBJECTS" --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Lincoln Yaco" wrote: > > Anybody remember AIR PIRATES? Sued by Disney, long out of print? You > can get scans of this fannish underground if you read the following. >=20 > but if yr a novice at computers, be forewarned. The software at this > site MIGHT fill yr RAM up and you will have to find ways to dump it as > you work. Also, often the files you save MIGHT be corrupted. They are > EASY to fix if you just use Photoshop to open and resave. >=20 > But this is a great search tool that accesses the usenet.=20 >=20 > It is slow and clumsy to use so be patient. >=20 > Just go to >=20 > http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/archive >=20 >=20 > type COMICS in the search bar > then, beneath, >=20 > and beneath select image files JPG, GIF, PNG, and BMP for good measure. > then click on GO or whatever >=20 > When I did it, one of the first few pages it brought up was AIR > PIRATES! But it's constantly changing as people add things so I can't > guarantee it will stay that way forever. > From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Nov 27 14:19:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22560 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2005 22:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Nov 2005 22:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.38) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2005 22:19:18 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 22:18:05 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.71] by mailer6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2005 22:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:18:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.65.9.238 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Re: Dan O'Neil's AIR PIRATES!---incomplete issue X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=VPGX6a0HYL8PXVIYW1IZovbCMuEa7ph2GSG1Fxj4ROWFqNQ X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco eh, may not be worth yr time. THere about about 30 pages up there, but not entirely sequential. I'm beginning to learn a bit about Usenet.=20 It ain't sequential, nessecarily... Altho I'm sure an experienced user will tell me I'm wrong about that TOO, but if I say it IS sequential, then an experienced user will say I'm wrong about that TOO... -heh- I think we have the makings of an Archie Goodwin Warren storie here! Drawn by Ditko! Bad news for Usenet users! Is it too late for me? Is there no hope? From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Fri Dec 02 18:22:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43545 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2005 02:22:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2005 02:22:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.43) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2005 02:22:22 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n9.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2005 02:21:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2005 02:21:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:21:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.43 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.164.160.26 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TBT online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=bYRqSlus6koPOag-ANjlOQoWVpaiCL2fV2LN_0TMJ_ciQg X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 The TBT website is now ready with cool zines to order, cool artwork and=20 fun stuff! PayPay friendly as well! Check us out at: http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/ - Tim Temmel From cfrancz1966@yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 12:01:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79445 invoked by uid 7800); 23 Dec 2005 20:01:43 -0000 X-Sender: cfrancz1966@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 61149 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2005 19:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Dec 2005 19:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web61115.mail.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.44) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2005 19:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 98530 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2005 19:54:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20051223195433.98528.qmail@web61115.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.229.11.38] by web61115.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:54:33 PST Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:54:33 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.73.179.44 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: Chris Francz Subject: Comics Newsline X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=235822815; y=bMz0TJwXo9D-h7gbkBsglWBIsm4dP_eDDxX3HFvphYXmGhjgTzE X-Yahoo-Profile: cfrancz1966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 23 Dec 2005 20:01:43 -0000 Does anyone remember this 24 pg. newsprint zine from around 82-84? --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Dec 23 17:00:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55533 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2005 01:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2005 01:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2005 01:00:42 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.1db.49e34de7 (48624) for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:00:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1db.49e34de7.30ddf7b2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:00:34 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.35 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Comics Newsline X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since attachments don't come through on yahoo groups you're going to have to explain what the 24 page newsprint publication is. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Sat Dec 24 12:10:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50695 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2005 20:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2005 20:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.138) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2005 20:10:55 -0000 Received: from storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 9996ED76F for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id MAA00011; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ/cXkzF/MM/mypAdw7ULcKihjd9wIUOaSb8CVHmeY3xaJewldG663NOKI= Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:10:42 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <28986-43ADAB42-1339@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 24 Dec 2005 14:34:11 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: This KONG, is Loathesome X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=nH-M4H72emiXHbeMgvzdVFoz3uT6JeU4Xb2wuQjgddi10BEfe1gZ X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 I just wrote this, for a friend's theatre website... "Beware, This Loathesme KONG" Just about the only thing of interest in the new KING KONG is that Jack Driscoll, the famous tale's hero, is now a New York playwrite, working with the WPA... But-- Carl Denham is now a prick; Captain Englehorn is no longer a willing ally... Truth be told, Naomi Watts gives a nice performance... But this is one of the LONGEST three hours you will ever spend in a movie theatre. The filmmakers have made that juvenile's mistake of confusing ugliness with veracity, and this is a MOST unpleasant movie. A sense of wonder, has been replaced with dread. (And whatever you do, do not take young children. Even for those raised on the harshest of video game imagery could well have nightmares, for years, from the grostequeness, of certain scenes.) KONG, once a template, of direct, elegantly simple storymaking, is now a story where ultimately, all of the characters--within the framework of the story--act stupidly, in a screenplay with no regard for interior logic, or its audience... Even had the film been cut down to two hours--virtually every action scene goes on far too long--this still would have been a mean, little picture. This would all be bad enough, but the film ultimately also makes fun, of the original. Who at Universal Studios could have thought that any of the majority of folks seeing this film would want to see something that they've loved, for decades, mocked? Does it ever make sense, to insult your audience? There's also a problem with digital special effects that I first noticed with VAN SMELSING: Just because you can now do virtually anything, doesn't mean you should. The action still has to be BELIEVABLE. Even the most graphically-juiced, adenoidal cebrebrum can innately sense what's just impossible. (As in SPIDER MAN 2, when poor Aunt May is bouncing along the side of that building--just a wee bit much, for any old lady to handle...) And special effects, as always, are meant to serve THE STORY. The recreations of 1930s Manhattan are fascinating, and it's fun to see 46th and Broadway as it once might have been. (There's also a vaudeville montage, in the beginning of the film, as well as some other surprising evocations of the Depression-era theatre scene.) But I have no faith--Pepsodent billboard, or no--that these scenes are any more truly faithful, than the rest of the movie... (Besides, these parts will be easily glimpsed, as a Netflix rental, or on cable.) There's also a very disturbing question that this movie's rave reviews, raise:... The audience I saw the picture with, as best can be judged, was uniformly bored. (Have you ever been at a major adventure film, where people kept splitting, to go to the mens' room?) I've heard similar reports, from friends... Can this many critics, be bought? This season, do yourself a favor, and instead of spending three hours with this travesty, just watch the original, twice. Jim Burns (James H. Burns) From TOMPSTEWART@MSN.COM Sat Dec 24 14:52:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9696 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2005 22:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2005 22:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.61.25) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2005 22:52:35 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:52:35 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:52:34 GMT X-Originating-Email: [tompstewart@msn.com] X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com In-Reply-To: <28986-43ADAB42-1339@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:52:34 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2005 22:52:35.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB204780:01C608DC] X-Originating-IP: 64.4.61.25 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: "Tom Stewart" Subject: RE: [cbzines] This KONG, is Loathesome X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=196251741; y=sHnXqEvKBkEc5D2aX0eVf-pz3Yyu45UdRsdyuQmJBGOu6R0Kojk X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 Wow, I don't think we even saw the same movie. I thought it was a wonderful adventure film, the only real problem I had was with Jack Black's performance (he seemed lost at times). I didn't think Jackson was making fun of the original at all, he did throw in a few references to it's makers that I thought were a nice touch. The chase scenes went on a bit long, and and don't think they really needed to be attacked by every thing on the island (the rocks were the only thinkgs that didn't suddenly grow fangs and try to bit), but I liked it enough that I'll probably go to see it again. Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart http://tinyurl.com/2zzdm >From: jameshburns@webtv.net >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [cbzines] This KONG, is Loathesome >Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:10:42 -0500 > > >I just wrote this, for a friend's theatre website... > > >"Beware, This Loathesme KONG" > >Just about the only thing of interest in the new KING KONG is that Jack >Driscoll, the famous tale's hero, is now a New York playwrite, working >with the WPA... > >But-- > >Carl Denham is now a prick; Captain Englehorn is no longer a willing >ally... > >Truth be told, Naomi Watts gives a nice performance... > >But this is one of the LONGEST three hours you will ever spend in a >movie theatre. > >The filmmakers have made that juvenile's mistake of confusing ugliness >with veracity, and this is a MOST unpleasant movie. A sense of wonder, >has been replaced with dread. > >(And whatever you do, do not take young children. Even for those raised >on the harshest of video game imagery could well have nightmares, for >years, from the grostequeness, of certain scenes.) > >KONG, once a template, of direct, elegantly simple storymaking, is now a >story where ultimately, all of the characters--within the framework of >the story--act stupidly, in a screenplay with no regard for interior >logic, or its audience... Even had the film been cut down to two >hours--virtually every action scene goes on far too long--this still >would have been a mean, little picture. > >This would all be bad enough, but the film ultimately also makes fun, of >the original. > >Who at Universal Studios could have thought that any of the majority of >folks seeing this film would want to see something that they've loved, >for decades, mocked? > >Does it ever make sense, to insult your audience? > >There's also a problem with digital special effects that I first noticed >with VAN SMELSING: >Just because you can now do virtually anything, doesn't mean you should. >The action still has to be BELIEVABLE. Even the most graphically-juiced, >adenoidal cebrebrum can innately sense what's just impossible. > >(As in SPIDER MAN 2, when poor Aunt May is bouncing along the side of >that building--just a wee bit much, for any old lady to handle...) > >And special effects, as always, are meant to serve THE STORY. > >The recreations of 1930s Manhattan are fascinating, and it's fun to see >46th and Broadway as it once might have been. (There's also a vaudeville >montage, in the beginning of the film, as well as some other surprising >evocations of the Depression-era theatre scene.) But I have no >faith--Pepsodent billboard, or no--that these scenes are any more truly >faithful, than the rest of the movie... >(Besides, these parts will be easily glimpsed, as a Netflix rental, or >on cable.) > >There's also a very disturbing question that this movie's rave reviews, >raise:... > >The audience I saw the picture with, as best can be judged, was >uniformly bored. (Have you ever been at a major adventure film, where >people kept splitting, to go to the mens' room?) I've heard similar >reports, from friends... > >Can this many critics, be bought? > >This season, do yourself a favor, and instead of spending three hours >with this travesty, just watch the original, twice. > >Jim Burns (James H. Burns) > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From cfrancz1966@yahoo.com Sun Dec 25 09:39:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18335 invoked by uid 7800); 25 Dec 2005 17:39:45 -0000 X-Sender: cfrancz1966@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40326 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2005 21:18:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Dec 2005 21:18:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web61120.mail.yahoo.com) (209.73.179.34) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2005 21:18:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 77786 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2005 21:18:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20051224211808.77784.qmail@web61120.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.229.11.38] by web61120.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:18:08 PST Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:18:08 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <28986-43ADAB42-1339@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.73.179.34 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Chris Francz Subject: Re: [cbzines] This KONG, is Loathesome X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=235822815; y=o2eAkLf_YCuRq_tQ_mqYP1kv8Dg4pScr5hz-5z1G_o4DMTDZXJ4 X-Yahoo-Profile: cfrancz1966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 25 Dec 2005 17:39:45 -0000 I'd say that you're review was accurate. I almost laughed out loud at some parts because it was so frustrating - so many scenes were just drraaaaaaaaged out! I wanted to scream: "ENOUGH ALREADY!!!" I cannot figure out what the purpose for making this movie was - except to fit in with the Hollywood trend of rehashing tried and true classic movies/TV shows.... jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: I just wrote this, for a friend's theatre website... "Beware, This Loathesme KONG" Just about the only thing of interest in the new KING KONG is that Jack Driscoll, the famous tale's hero, is now a New York playwrite, working with the WPA... But-- Carl Denham is now a prick; Captain Englehorn is no longer a willing ally... Truth be told, Naomi Watts gives a nice performance... But this is one of the LONGEST three hours you will ever spend in a movie theatre. The filmmakers have made that juvenile's mistake of confusing ugliness with veracity, and this is a MOST unpleasant movie. A sense of wonder, has been replaced with dread. (And whatever you do, do not take young children. Even for those raised on the harshest of video game imagery could well have nightmares, for years, from the grostequeness, of certain scenes.) KONG, once a template, of direct, elegantly simple storymaking, is now a story where ultimately, all of the characters--within the framework of the story--act stupidly, in a screenplay with no regard for interior logic, or its audience... Even had the film been cut down to two hours--virtually every action scene goes on far too long--this still would have been a mean, little picture. This would all be bad enough, but the film ultimately also makes fun, of the original. Who at Universal Studios could have thought that any of the majority of folks seeing this film would want to see something that they've loved, for decades, mocked? Does it ever make sense, to insult your audience? There's also a problem with digital special effects that I first noticed with VAN SMELSING: Just because you can now do virtually anything, doesn't mean you should. The action still has to be BELIEVABLE. Even the most graphically-juiced, adenoidal cebrebrum can innately sense what's just impossible. (As in SPIDER MAN 2, when poor Aunt May is bouncing along the side of that building--just a wee bit much, for any old lady to handle...) And special effects, as always, are meant to serve THE STORY. The recreations of 1930s Manhattan are fascinating, and it's fun to see 46th and Broadway as it once might have been. (There's also a vaudeville montage, in the beginning of the film, as well as some other surprising evocations of the Depression-era theatre scene.) But I have no faith--Pepsodent billboard, or no--that these scenes are any more truly faithful, than the rest of the movie... (Besides, these parts will be easily glimpsed, as a Netflix rental, or on cable.) There's also a very disturbing question that this movie's rave reviews, raise:... The audience I saw the picture with, as best can be judged, was uniformly bored. (Have you ever been at a major adventure film, where people kept splitting, to go to the mens' room?) I've heard similar reports, from friends... Can this many critics, be bought? This season, do yourself a favor, and instead of spending three hours with this travesty, just watch the original, twice. Jim Burns (James H. Burns) --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "comicbookfanzines" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Sun Dec 25 23:46:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53025 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2005 07:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2005 07:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m17.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.207) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2005 07:46:26 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.b8.c4f44e (48600) for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:44:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:44:09 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 291 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: CArchivist@aol.com Subject: This KONG, is Awesome X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=0DPAhD11q914cUyYUczxB6_sLMBHN9qnYk1Jai0Al92YmJ2tMw X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/25/05 8:11:30 AM, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: > I just wrote this, for a friend's theatre website... > > > "Beware, This Loathesme KONG" > > Just about the only thing of interest in the new KING KONG is that Jack > Driscoll, the famous tale's hero, is now a New York playwrite, working > with the WPA... > > But-- > > Carl Denham is now a prick; Captain Englehorn is no longer a willing > ally... > > Truth be told, Naomi Watts gives a nice performance... > > But this is one of the LONGEST three hours you will ever spend in a > movie theatre. > > The filmmakers have made that juvenile's mistake of confusing ugliness > with veracity, and this is a MOST unpleasant movie. A sense of wonder, > has been replaced with dread. > > (And whatever you do, do not take young children. Even for those raised > on the harshest of video game imagery could well have nightmares, for > years, from the grostequeness, of certain scenes.) > > KONG, once a template, of direct, elegantly simple storymaking, is now a > story where ultimately, all of the characters--within the framework of > the story--act stupidly, in a screenplay with no regard for interior > logic, or its audience... Even had the film been cut down to two > hours--virtually every action scene goes on far too long--this still > would have been a mean, little picture. > > This would all be bad enough, but the film ultimately also makes fun, of > the original. > > Who at Universal Studios could have thought that any of the majority of > folks seeing this film would want to see something that they've loved, > for decades, mocked? > > Does it ever make sense, to insult your audience? > > There's also a problem with digital special effects that I first noticed > with VAN SMELSING: > Just because you can now do virtually anything, doesn't mean you should. > The action still has to be BELIEVABLE. Even the most graphically-juiced, > adenoidal cebrebrum can innately sense what's just impossible. > > (As in SPIDER MAN 2, when poor Aunt May is bouncing along the side of > that building--just a wee bit much, for any old lady to handle...) > > And special effects, as always, are meant to serve THE STORY. > > The recreations of 1930s Manhattan are fascinating, and it's fun to see > 46th and Broadway as it once might have been. (There's also a vaudeville > montage, in the beginning of the film, as well as some other surprising > evocations of the Depression-era theatre scene.) But I have no > faith--Pepsodent billboard, or no--that these scenes are any more truly > faithful, than the rest of the movie... > (Besides, these parts will be easily glimpsed, as a Netflix rental, or > on cable.) > > There's also a very disturbing question that this movie's rave reviews, > raise:... > > The audience I saw the picture with, as best can be judged, was > uniformly bored. (Have you ever been at a major adventure film, where > people kept splitting, to go to the mens' room?) I've heard similar > reports, from friends... > > Can this many critics, be bought? > > This season, do yourself a favor, and instead of spending three hours > with this travesty, just watch the original, twice. > > Jim Burns (James H. Burns) > Hogwash. If I find more time than I have now, I would write several paragraphs on how good Kong was. Instead I will fall on my 3rd grade answer for now. People who I was with cried at the end, hardly bored by the movie. Go and see it, it is fantastic. And if someone wants to pay me for that comment, feel free to do so. In the meantime I write this for free. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LyleTucker@cableone.net Mon Dec 26 08:39:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: LyleTucker@cableone.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71758 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2005 16:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2005 16:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO S3.cableone.net) (24.116.0.229) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2005 16:39:23 -0000 Received: from cableone.net (unverified [24.117.112.108]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 41128732 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:54:15 -0700 Return-Path: Message-ID: <43B01B5D.7060401@cableone.net> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:33:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <1135608239.1054.82603.m20@yahoogroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1135608239.1054.82603.m20@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0551-6, 12/24/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 262, in=1018, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.112.108 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Originating-IP: 24.116.0.229 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Lyle Tucker Subject: Re: KONG X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175981380; y=mdINS0MlVUI9Vb3xeJyupey3Fc0ZNE8Ct9_CDuk6CwklCAuH6Q X-Yahoo-Profile: lyletucker Obviously, all opinions about this movie are correct, being opinion. No movie satisfies everyone, and no movie turns everyone off. I found this KONG to be in effect three movies (and, I'll agree, feeling about as long as three of them, too). I *loved* the first third of the movie. I disagree that Jack Black ruined Carl Denham - as far as I'm concerned, the movie could be accurately entitled "King Kong - Denham's Folly." Black played Denham as a man addicted to failure - when things start turning bad, he simply ratchets the stakes up even higher - the classic attribute of a gambler, and logically his drive is what both enables and ruins everything in the movie. For those who wanted a completely faithful re-filming of the original, this might not be to their liking, but I thought portraying Denham's self- centered determination the way they did made perfect sense. The second part of the movie is the Effects Fest, and it was, I thought, equally parts delight and disaster. *Everything* is crammed into this section of the movie, and although brilliantly realized in the visual, it's sorely lacking in the basic elements of verisimilitude needed to satisfy the discerning adult (in effect, this was the section for the kiddies - and I would've gone absolutely nuts over it at age 10). Jim Burns was spot-on in comparing this section to the ridiculous Tossing-Aunt-May-Around scene in Spidey 2 (being the moment when I left the theater - directors *have* come to terms with that fact that some things that can be pulled off in the comic pages simply will not translate in the movie form). To put things simply about this second section, Naomi Watts would've been dead in, oh, 2.3 seconds of her encounter with KONG, let alone able to survive the incredibly rough handling we're supposed to suspend our disbelief for. The absolute over-the-top handling of this idea - the T-Rex fight - completely wrenched me out of the movie, saying "Oh, come on, now!" - something I absolutely *hate* when absorbed in a show. However, in some respects this section fulfilled bril- liantly the exact same thing the first KONG set out to do -- fill the audience with wonderment, show them things they'd never seen before. This KONG has the misfortune have coming after JURASSIC PARK, so the thrill is definitely diluted, yet there were portions of this section to be savored. The third part, the New York part most of us remember (an older lady behind me said to her companion, "I don't remember there being dinosaurs - I don't recall the jungle part at all.") was oddly lacking. Though lovingly filmed, it didn't resonate emotionally all that much with me. Naomi Watts is indeed the center of the acting, and did a superb job. And KONG himself is incredible, more realistic than I think anyone could've imagined. And whereas parts of the movie are simply tremendous, it went on too long, went over the top a few too many times, and, at least for me, ended a little too flatly. I'm glad I saw it, and may go see it again, but I can't say it was the unqualified hit I'd hoped it would be. Jackson needed a better and stronger editor. The original is still *the* KONG in my book. -- Lyle Tucker "The comfort of the rich depends upon the abundance of the poor" -- Voltaire From Cartomancer@netzero.net Mon Dec 26 13:22:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41879 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2005 21:22:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2005 21:22:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.44) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2005 21:22:17 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Though lovingly filmed, it didn't resonate > emotionally all that much with me. Naomi Watts is indeed the > center of the acting, and did a superb job. And KONG himself > is incredible, more realistic than I think anyone could've imagined. > And whereas parts of the movie are simply tremendous, it went > on too long, went over the top a few too many times, and, at least > for me, ended a little too flatly. Kong fell the way the Titanic sank in that movie. Did it have to take so LONG. From mail@1stplace.us Sat Dec 31 17:16:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1stplace.us X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29850 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2006 01:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jan 2006 01:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoenix.dnsdc.com) (65.254.38.178) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2006 01:16:40 -0000 Received: from pool-162-83-197-16.ny5030.east.verizon.net ([162.83.197.16]:50709 helo=D97V5H41.1stplace.us) by phoenix.dnsdc.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EsrPZ-0004wZ-PG; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:49:25 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20051231200957.01aa8a20@1stplace.us> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:14:21 -0500 To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phoenix.dnsdc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - yahoogroups.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 1stplace.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Originating-IP: 65.254.38.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Contributors and Story Editor X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=223262650; y=EcFV-zQu0v8J5SUHqA9Yl864x7VowE2qCWebyNi9NHu3Qcq60-F59UI X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications If anyone has a article, drawing or etc. for my Comics Compendium project let me know. It's going to a ebook downloadable or print on demand magazine for the The Jerry Deutsch Awareness Network. This project is to raise funds for my son Jerry who has CAPD. http://www.1stplace.us/publications I also need someone to edit some of my stories. Any questions you can always email me. Regards, Aaron Mr.A. Your 1st Place To Visit. http://www.1stplace.us From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sun Jan 22 12:28:07 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68476 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 20:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2006 20:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28b.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (209.73.160.85) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 20:28:06 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2006 14:26:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2006 20:24:49 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92466 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 20:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2006 20:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n3a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.37) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 20:16:27 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2006 20:10:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2006 20:10:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:10:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.33.48.21 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: Larry Ivie, Adam West, and skeet's Opinion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=eaqDP9i9GkmsOtr-sVJRQiKz9R9TuC8Dq4FVxwAH0S-kftNEgRU X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 22 Jan 2006 20:24:49 -0000 I was looking over my copy of LARRY IVIE'S MONSTERS & HEROES #1 this afternoon, and came across Ivie's comments, written in 1967, regarding the Adam West BATMAN television series. As we've discussed the show here in the past, I thought some of you might find this interesting, especially as it came from a true fan of super hero comics of the mid-1960s. Here's what Ivie had to say: "The older Batman fans were disappointed to find their hero adapted to tv in such a state as to be nominated for an Emmy in the category of comedy. But then, it was not really THEIR Batman, but, rather, a not-really-humorous LAMPOON of the character they had known. From the beginning, there was been speculation as to whether or not the series might have been even more popular-- and long lasting-- had it been handled differently. . . Most of the avid viewers still claim they would have prefered a serious treatment, and watch the current version only because it is the closest that tv has to what they want. Many Batman fans of every age, however, have not watched more than the first couple of episodes. "The producer's major disadvantage was in never really KNOWING Batman, as have most of the potential audience. Almost everyone in the US-- both child and adult-- under the age of forty, has grown up with a knowledge of, and nostalgia for, the details of the Batman feature. The tv version has possibly missed its largest potential by possessing none of the real traits that this audience associates with the character they have known." I agreed with Larry Ivie then, and I agree with him now, although... I have to admit that the show did have its own charm, and in reruns, all these years later, it's still a hoot to watch. But it started the camp craze, and set "serious" comics back years. On quite another hand, when one looks at the "serious" comics of today, with all the violence and negativity and psychotic heroes as bad as the villains themselves, the camp era, with all its crazy irreverence, doesn't seem so bad after all. Personally, if I had to choose a model to go by, it would be the early Siegel and Shuster SUPERMAN comics, and the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons, and, yeah sure, the early Bob Kane DETECTIVE COMICS and BATMAN. There were some crazy villains and absurd situations, definitely, but the characters were treated respectfully, not made fun of, and it was easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. Those were real heroes too, the type that one could look up to. Granted, Bruce Wayne was a dark figure, driven by the memory of his parents' violent death, but he was virtuous enough to overcome any aversions towards vengeance for its own sake, and use this terrible knowledge to guide him to be a force for good. So lighthearted was the "camp" Batman tv show, they never even dealt with the issue of Batman's origin. But if Batman had been invented today, the violent origin would most certainly have led to an unrelentingly violent path of revenge. Having said all that, I'm glad the movies have abandoned the camp approach, and great superhero flicks such as X2, BATMAN BEGINS, and the SPIDER-MAN films, are taking comics heroes seriously. There has to be a balance to keep from getting too camp on the one hand, and too dark on the other, and I think the filmmakers of today are achieving that far better than the makers of todays professional comics. --stevekeeter From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Jan 22 12:51:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 74942 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2006 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2006 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2006 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id r.59.3639e4f7 (16335) for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:47:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <59.3639e4f7.31054956@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:47:18 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Ivie, Adam West, and skeet's Opinion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When DC announced their new Batman and Superman titles I thought maybe they'd be books aimed at a different audience. Instead, Miller's Batman & Robin is Batman crossed with Sin City, and not in a good way. After two issues I gave it up as being far too unpleasant to continue with. And the new Superman title is drawn well but what's the point of a 12 issue maxi-series about Superman with a terminal illness? Does anyone read Superman for that? There's nothing special about those new titles at all, and nothing to recommend them to anyone.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scott.rowland@gmail.com Mon Jan 23 10:20:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: scott.rowland@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20799 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2006 18:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jan 2006 18:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.193) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2006 18:20:18 -0000 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so1004782nze for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.101.4 with SMTP id y4mr3983537nzb; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.18.73 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:20:16 -0800 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <59.3639e4f7.31054956@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59.3639e4f7.31054956@aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.193 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Scott Rowland Subject: Re: [cbzines] Larry Ivie, Adam West, and skeet's Opinion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=203268037; y=IHcs0VRr5GfLh145P72w3YpyzdeyjMlP1t5x_SrHYYbi3rPaoQ8 X-Yahoo-Profile: scott_rowland_47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm extremely biased towards the Adam West Batman series -- it introduced me to Batman, who in turn introduced me to comic books, which I've collected for the past 34 years. I wouldn't want to see a new series use the camp approach now, but I can't deny it changed my life at an extremely early age. According to my grandmother's diary, when she visited me at an early age, I knew 5 words -- Mama, Dada, Wawa (water), bow-wow (dog) and . . . Batman. There WAS a reference to Batman's origin in the first episode of the TV show, by the way. Just a statement by Batman that he vowed to fight crime after his parents were murdered. On the other hand, how often was that stated in the comic books of the time? I don't think it was until the 80's that everyone felt they had to retell the origin over and over again, reducing a potentially complex, multidimensional character to a one-note figure of vengeance and obsession. Give me a Batman who tries to protect other people and who enjoys using his intellect and his physical prowess to do so (1939-1985). Not a psycho who chases away his friends and loved ones (1986+). -- Scott Jack Kirby was a comic book writer and artist and one of the most creative of all of them. Learn more about him at http://kirbymuseum.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LINCOLNyaco@aol.com Sun Jan 29 07:53:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: LINCOLNyaco@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23401 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2006 15:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2006 15:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.56) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2006 15:53:49 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2006 15:53:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2006 15:53:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:53:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.92.177.161 From: "Lincoln Yaco" Subject: Batman, icon X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=106036558; y=8K-dQCm8lal8LKyyEPGbQlzMLQ1tgCxo8Psx32LAdp1rIto X-Yahoo-Profile: linkyaco It's amazing to me that Batman has become as iconic as Tarzan, pehaps as even as the Greco-Roman pantheon. I wonder if he will be remembered a hundred years from now. =3Dlink --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Scott Rowland wrote: > > I'm extremely biased towards the Adam West Batman series -- it introduced me > to Batman, who in turn introduced me to comic books, which I've collected > for the past 34 years. I wouldn't want to see a new series use the camp > approach now, but I can't deny it changed my life at an extremely early > age. According to my grandmother's diary, when she visited me at an early > age, I knew 5 words -- Mama, Dada, Wawa (water), bow-wow (dog) and . . . > Batman. >=20 > There WAS a reference to Batman's origin in the first episode of the TV > show, by the way. Just a statement by Batman that he vowed to fight crime > after his parents were murdered. On the other hand, how often was that > stated in the comic books of the time? I don't think it was until the 80's > that everyone felt they had to retell the origin over and over again, > reducing a potentially complex, multidimensional character to a one-note > figure of vengeance and obsession. >=20 > Give me a Batman who tries to protect other people and who enjoys using his > intellect and his physical prowess to do so (1939-1985). Not a psycho who > chases away his friends and loved ones (1986+). >=20 > -- > Scott >=20 > Jack Kirby was a comic book writer and artist and one of the most creative > of all of them. Learn more about him at http://kirbymuseum.org >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Feb 07 05:19:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87793 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2006 13:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2006 13:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n7a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.41) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2006 13:19:23 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2006 13:19:03 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2006 13:19:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:19:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.41 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.173.24.106 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Small Press Idol 2006 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=uMMSZ9mw77qhH_tIcEjpjdRwlX0kEssZtc7PYLYFpaVHZw X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello World! For the third year straight, the Self Publisher Association is=20 sponsoring the Small Press Idol Contest. Official guidelines and=20 deadlines are now up on the Idol Homepage at: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/SPA/Idol06/index.asp Past winners have included (in 2004) Metro Med (picked up by=20 Shooting Star), Fly Guy (gained interest from Cartoon Network), (in=20 2005) Redchapel, The Squirrel, and Beyond Human...great new comics=20 by real people just like you! Teams for this year's contest are=20 forming now on many different forums, a true internet event!=20 Spectators welcome, and this year, YOUR VOTE counts more than ever! What will be the next big thing in indy comics? It's all starting=20 RIGHT NOW! ((Please note: If this sort of post is considered "spamming" by your=20 community rules, please let us know how to BEST get this legitimate=20 news across to your community by writing to:=20 Idol@dimestoreproductions.com )) From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sat Feb 11 17:55:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75547 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Feb 2006 01:54:59 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27978 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2006 14:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2006 14:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.38) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2006 14:07:21 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2006 14:06:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2006 14:06:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 14:06:50 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.33.48.21 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: Dwight Decker on Dr. Frederick Wertham X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=Cw3se3idpm0OheKgTjbBvA1mYiEm4Il9XqsCsX_tr-_fEmKPuK4 X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Feb 2006 01:54:59 -0000 I recently came across a lengthy article by Dwight Decker on Dr. Frederick Wertham, the notorious author of SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT. The article is posted in its entireity on another site, but here's the section that deals with Wertham's discovery of comics fandom, and the book that he wrote about it (his last, before he died in 1981): Dr. Wertham then expressed curiosity about fanzines and fandom. I wrote back answering his questions - and the next thing I knew, I was hearing that he was writing to fanzine publishers and requesting copies of their publications. Dr. Wertham's letters even began appearing in fanzine letter columns, often politely justifying his views on violence and the media to unsympathetic fan editors, often just participating in the conversation and commenting amiably about unrelated matters brought up in a previous issue. In his own way, he was getting involved in fandom. Still, there was always an element of suspicion and distrust on the part of comics fans. No one was quite sure what he was really after. Some people, fearing a Seduction -style hatchet job on fandom, flatly refused to send him their fanzines; others did so reluctantly. What Dr. Wertham was up to turned out to be his last book, published by Southern Illinois University Press in 1974: The World of Fanzines: A Special Form of Communication. It wasn't a hatchet job at all. Quite the opposite: it was a love letter to comics fandom. This was the man who had blasted comic books in Seduction of the Innocent and A Sign for Cain, accusing them of every sin he could think of, including making their readers into moral monsters - now Dr. Wertham was praising the efforts of comic-book readers, and presenting our internal hobby publications as the very model of non- violent communication by bright young people. It was also a very strange book, with wide margins and scant text. One whole chapter was nothing but a one-column list of fanzine titles and the places they were published. One reviewer called the book "repetitious, belaboring the obvious, and poorly organized." Reading it, one gets the impression of a man very much out of touch with the world, and making a great deal out of very little. His choices of artwork for reproductions in the book seem limited to what he had on hand in his drawer rather than to any systematic purpose. More to the point, Dr. Wertham had completely misunderstood the nature and purpose of comics fandom. Apparently, after spending so many years as a practicing psychiatrist working with the New York City criminal court system, seeing a never-ending stream of violent psychopaths and disturbed juveniles, he was evidently charmed when he tripped across a little subculture of young people spontaneously communicating peacefully among themselves without adult supervision or encouragement. Mr. Decker's own fanzine "Torch". Dr. Wertham's account in the introductory chapter of how he got involved with fanzines is interesting, as he doesn't mention Seduction of the Innocent or his anti-comic book work in the '50s. The unknowing reader is left with the impression that Wertham is simply a public figure known for his "writings or talks on such subjects as mass media, youth problems, or violence," and fanzine editors sent him their publications just to communicate pleasantly with the nice gentleman in response. Wertham gives no hint of his personal position in the world of fanzines as a near-legendary bogeyman, regarded by many of their editors and contributors as incarnate evil walking the earth. He seemed to only reluctantly acknowledge comic books and science fiction as the source of fanzines and fandom, and gave a couple of the most skewed capsule histories of the genres I've ever seen, concentrating on their anti-war and non-violent aspects. In discussing the comics fanzines' emphasis on superheroes, he offered the remark that "the creative imagination of fanzine writers and artists, especially the younger ones, tends in the direction of heroes, maybe in that lies a message for our unheroic age." This is more than a little remarkable coming from the man who in Seduction classified superheroes as a bizarre variant of "crime comics" and thought Superman in particular was a fascist avatar. Mostly, he glosses over the comic-book connection of comics fandom, treating it puzzledly or condescendingly when he can't avoid it, and seems to proceed on the premise that fandom just spontaneously organized itself as a communications vehicle for teenagers, with comic books only an incidental, even accidental aspect of it all. As usual, Dr. Wertham concentrates on violence and is delighted to report that there isn't any in the world of fanzines. The World of Fanzines is a masterpiece of scholarship gone off the track. It's the only book you'll find about its subject in most libraries even though the author never quite understood what he was writing about. He never said as much - he couldn't admit it for the sake of professional pride, perhaps - but The World of Fanzines contradicts everything Dr. Wertham wrote about comic books and their readers in his previous books. In the end, he decided, we'd turned out pretty much all=20 right. --Steve From splitxam@yahoo.com Sun Feb 19 18:52:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70012 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2006 02:52:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2006 02:52:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8a.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com) (216.155.203.231) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2006 02:52:17 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [216.155.201.65] by n8.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2006 02:51:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t2.bullet.dcn.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2006 02:51:53 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.68] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2006 02:51:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:51:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 216.155.203.231 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.235.80.99 From: "Jim" Subject: Fantastic Exploits #'s 21 and 23 = Maxor by Richardson up on eBay now X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=xrCAv6_igSWMPm_Z93o_-VibX2xUFG2duAETLSLio8oi59o X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam I have copies of Fantastic Exploits #'s 21 and 23 up on eBay right=20 now; they feature Richardson's excellent sword & sorcery / fantasy=20 tales about Maxor. They are item #: 6607168387=20=20 I also have some other comics and magazines up right now that end in a=20 week, as well as, some that end tomorrow night. Look at my other=20 auctions if you're interested... happy hunting, Jim From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Thu Mar 16 12:05:16 2006 X-Deleted-Message: yes From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Thu Mar 16 12:16:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19472 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 20:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2006 20:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28b.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (209.73.160.85) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 20:16:10 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2006 20:15:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2006 20:15:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:15:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.73.160.85 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.164.160.26 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TEASER X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=KW1CPyazQebMVmwnLI-iH8D4IyubWjtcKK9ytJYhmBHlyw X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Mar 16 12:33:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 978 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2006 20:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2006 20:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m20.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.1) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2006 20:33:24 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id r.239.8c7151d (18251) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:29:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <239.8c7151d.314b24c2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:29:54 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5301 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.1 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Teaser X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First, as has been pointed out before, attachments are removed from messages sent to this newsgroup before we ever receive them. Why not just tell us what this is? Second, when I tried to go to the URL provided, I got the following message. (http://www.yahoo.com/) _Help_ (http://help.yahoo.com/) ____________________________________ Forbidden You do not have permission to get the requested URL from this server. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 22:21:12 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37712 invoked by uid 7800); 22 Mar 2006 06:21:11 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89534 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2006 04:09:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2006 04:09:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.40) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2006 04:09:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2006 04:09:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2006 04:09:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:09:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.40 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 4.236.54.65 From: "Zorikh" Subject: Frank Miller & Neal Adams talk at Big Apple Con next weekend! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=9ZdjFF0WvuvENYhJx-qt0fkEmzMQBm8IjWCYl1UyvmvL5TWsLdg71N8 X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 22 Mar 2006 06:21:11 -0000 Critically acclaimed creator Frank Miller (Sin City, Batman: Dark=20 Knight Returns, Daredevil) will be interviewing famed artist Neal=20 Adams (Batman, X-Men) at the upcoming Big Apple Comic Book, Toy,=20 Horror & Sci-Fi Expo at the Penn Plaza Pavilion in NYC on the weekend=20 of March 30 & April 1&2. In part 2 of our continuing panel=20 discussion, we reverse roles as Neal Adams interviews Frank Miller.=20 We are sure the energy coming from the stage will reach critical mass=20 as two of the greatest creators have a blast talking about careers,=20 movies and comics. It happens on Sunday afternoon April 2 at 2pm. Other notable comic book guests include: Gene Ha (Superman, X-Men,=20 Batman, Green Lantern) who will be making his first New York=20 Convention appearance. Gahan Wilson (National Lampoon, the New=20 Yorker, Playboy, Nuts!) will be making his first New York Convention=20 appearance in decades. Also appearing will be cutting edge comic=20 creators Phil Jimenez (Infinite Crisis, JLA); Bill Tucci (Shi); Mark=20 Texiera (X-Men, Ghost Rider); Kyle Baker (Amazing Spider-Man,=20 Detective Comics); Cliff Chiang (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight,=20 Detective Comics); Toby Cypress (Batman); Rich Buckler (Hulk,=20 Spectacular Spider-Man); Tommy Castillo (Batman, Detective Comics)=20 and dozens more.=20 As long time supporters of Independent publishers, artists and=20 creators, Big Apple Conventions is proud to host the first ever=20 annual Valiant Comics tribute and East Coast meeting. Over 50=20 contributors to Valiant Comics will be attending to showcase their=20 art, discuss their writing, take a look at Valiant's unique role in=20 comic book history and examine the future of Valiant Comics. Some of=20 the announced guests include: Rodney Ramos, Howard Simpson, Sean=20 Chen, Mike Bair, Mike Leeke, Yvel Guichet, Hannibal King, Louis Small=20 Jr., Winston Blakely, Jim Calafiore, Michael Cavallaro, Jorge=20 Gonzalez, Jeff Gomez, Chrysoula Artemis-Gomez, Andrew Wendel, Dennis=20 Calero (aka Atomic paintbrush), Mike McGuire, Rafael Kayanan and many=20 more plus surprise appearances . There will be a special Saturday=20 panel featuring these great contributors.=20 =20 Additional panel discussions will include Danny Fingeroth's 3 in 1;=20 The Dark Age: The Modern Age of Comics begins with commentary from=20 Mark Voger, Jack C. Harris, Danny Fingeroth and Jim Salicrup; The=20 cutting edge of Independent Comics. Richard Howell Editor in Chief of=20 Claypool is joined by Claypool creators Todd Smith and Al Milgrim;=20 Troma Entertainment will host "How to Make an Independent Film"; and=20 Tri-Star pictures will screen the trailer for it's video game=20 inspired film "Silent Hill" starring Radha Mitchell, Laurie Holden,=20 Sean Bean and Debra Kara Unger. Legendary horror film director/producer George A. Romero will be=20 hosting a rare live Q&A session and signing autographs. "We are=20 really excited to have such an important figure in Horror films at=20 the show," says Michael Carbonaro the promoter of Big Apple=20 Conventions. One lucky contestant in the traditional Big Apple=20 costume contest will even win dinner with the noted director.=20 The Big Apple Convention is New York's longest running comic book,=20 toy, horror and sci-fi event. Thousands of fans are expected to turn=20 out to meet the celebrities and special guests, shop the dealer room=20 and enjoy the festivities. Tri-Star Pictures, Monsters HD, Troma=20 Entertainment and The Learning Annex are among the many well=20 established companies that will be there.=20 Over 30 celebrity guests will be appearing all weekend, including=20 Margot Kidder (Superman the Movie); Elvira Mistress of the Dark; Ken=20 Foree (The Devil's Rejects, Dawn of the Dead); Gary Howard Klar,=20 Gaylen Ross and David Emge (Dawn of the Dead); Eugene Clark (Land of=20 the Dead) Corin Nemec: (Parker Louis, Stargate SG-1); Jerri Manthey:=20 (Survivor : the Australian Outback); Brande Roderick (Baywatch); Bill=20 Daily (I Dream of Jeanie); Karen Lynn Gorney (Saturday Night Fever)=20 Charlene Tilton (Dallas); Jane Weidlin (Guitarist of the Go-Go's ,=20 The Surreal Life); Paul Orndorff WWE Hall of Fame Wrestler "Mr.=20 Wonderful"; Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca, Star Wars), Chanel Ryan (FHM=20 Model); Jasmine St. Claire ECW Wrestling and starring in the upcoming=20 Lion's Gate Film "Dorm Daze 2". Additional events will include the Saturday costume contest with=20 great prizes and surprises. Promotional posters, t-Shirts, comic=20 books and memorabilia will be given away throughout the weekend. With=20 more guests, panels and events to be announced this is sure to be an=20 event which will be talked about for years to come! For updates,=20 ticket and dealer information and more go to www.bigapplecon.com . Friday 1pm =96 8pm, Sat. & Sun 10am =96 7pm The Penn Plaza Pavilion: 401 7th Ave. at 33rd St. (across the street=20 from Madison Square Garden) Tickets are available at the door for $15 per day or $40 for a 3 day=20 pass. Advance tickets are available at www.bigapplecon.com and=20 through ticketmaster. Big Apple Conventions Contact: Brian Schutzer 704 76th Street J.B. 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A short time later they ran an ad for=20 Creepy no. 1. I id subscribe to Creepy, Eerie and Blazing Combat but=20 unfortunately not Azteca. Anyone here have information on this=20 publication ? John Adcock. http://yesterdays-papers.blogspot.com/ From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed May 03 10:28:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51943 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 17:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 May 2006 17:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.50) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 May 2006 17:28:47 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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For more info one these important literary and graphic acheivements click below: http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/newstuff.html?1146512283238 A splendid time is guaranteed for all [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 09:58:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16674 invoked by uid 7800); 11 Jun 2006 16:50:45 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36860 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2006 14:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2006 14:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12a.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.155) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2006 14:34:17 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.123] by n12.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2006 14:33:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2006 14:33:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2006 14:33:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.33.48.21 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: First Word on SUPERMAN RETURNS X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=v-TwesaxyiIA521tSPTkxZQdH6Z1FRFSSmegGx4D_s8xPJ87r4U X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 11 Jun 2006 16:50:44 -0000 This was on a message board for recent films. I didn't write=20 it, but I thought y'all might be interested in reading it: I went to a screening of the new "Superman Returns" and I had a=20 peculiar feeling that this new actor in the lead role of Superman,=20 Brandon Routh, bares a striking resemblance to the late Christopher=20 Reeve. I then began to wonder if this is going to be an issue in=20 comparing the original version with Reeve. One aspect that can't be=20 denied is just how impressive the special effects have become, in=20 comparison to the 1978 film. If anything, this new version of "the=20 man of steel" is quite a dazzling feat of just how far digital=20 effects have come. While at the screening, I chatted with a Warner=20 Brothers executive, who made mention that part of the reason for=20 these various remakes are due in large part to the new "gaming=20 industry" that makes-up for a good share of marketing a new=20 film. . .Naturally, any of these comic book heroes are a sure bet to=20 be turned into some sort of software product for computers, a play- station and the X-Box. This makes me wonder if today's movies are=20 planned in advance by way of marketing issues, rather than the pure=20 intent of creating something special and entertaining. . .I'm not so=20 sure on where I stand on this issue, only because the gaming=20 industry has now become virtually part of the movie business. It's=20 tough to accuse the producers of a film, if they are banking on a=20 film project, solely for other financial gains. What hurts movies=20 like "Superman Returns" and last year's "Batman Returns" are these=20 questions leading to the reasons why a previously successful,=20 popular film is remade? Certainly, there's always the excuse that a=20 successful genre can be recreated for a new generation of fans.=20 Well, I can understand this issue, but in hindsight, any die-hard=20 movie fan can pretty much figure out that most remakes are made to=20 cash in on any current successful concept or one that has been=20 revived for purposes that are not necessarily having anything to do=20 with being creatively new or fresh! Today's movie critics, have to review a new film on levels that=20 don't relate to anything artistic or what dramatic substance there=20 might be. An action/adventure/fantasy/ Sci-Fi film is usually looked=20 upon as something of a spectacle, for the sole purposes of=20 impressing the younger audiences. . .This is why most fantasy/ Sci- Fi films of the past weren't necessarily considered anything so=20 serious. Of course, George Lucas and "Star Wars" changed the whole=20 focus of this genre. Today, with this current flood of Fantasy/ Sci- Fi films, it's sometimes difficult to come to a positive or artistic=20 conclusion on whether or not the movie will be something special or=20 worthy of classic status. . .This I think is the real core or issue=20 behind what makes the Fantasy/ Sci-Fi genre a sometimes tedious=20 category to deal with. The plain and simple truth is that movies of=20 my generation where made differently than what we have today. . .It=20 all stems from issues of how society in general has changed and the=20 various financial burdens that have to be faced. If this digital age=20 continues to amaze us with these constant changes in technology, we=20 might see the end of "real live actors" on screen and a whole new=20 generation of animated figures created as a means to be cost=20 affective! This new version of Superman really pushes the "digital=20 envelope" to new extremes, with about 85 percent of the entire movie=20 computerized. . .This is very similar to last year's block-buster=20 remake of "King Kong." Now, don't get me wrong. . .I'm not trying to be critical of today's=20 movies or when compared to my generation of movie-making. I=20 certainly realize that the movies are a form of magical=20 entertainment. This has always been the case from that very first=20 time in the late 19th century, the movies made their public=20 appearance. From that time on, it's been a medium that has taken our=20 imagination to incredible heights. It's interesting to me, that when=20 movies first appeared, it was the fantasy genre that made the movies=20 popular, incorporating all sorts of special effects and imagery that=20 dazzled the minds of those early audiences. . .Today, with so much=20 technology easily thrown up at us, I wonder if there's anything else=20 left for us to be so impressed with? What's next? . . . Will we ever=20 see, real 3-D digital entertainment reach us before the middle of=20 this century? . . . When "Superman Returns" opens, the movie will be=20 in limited release, nation wide, in the various IMAX Theaters in 3- D! In the long run, since it's the fantasy/ Sci-Fi genre that's=20 keeping the movie business going, who can really find so much fault=20 with why certain types of movies are going to be made? I remember=20 once the great director William Wyler telling me, "It's a great=20 feeling, when you have an idea that's fresh, new and alive to you,=20 that makes you believe it can be turned into a movie. . .But then,=20 you have to remember we're in a business to make money and it's the=20 money that in the end counts first." So, to be fair, movies=20 like "Superman Returns" have been made to make money first and=20 perhaps, just perhaps, there might be something special lingering=20 for the movie to give it an extra push towards being a "cut above=20 the rest." What I will reveal about the movie is that it's not all that=20 bad. . .In fact, I thought last year's "Batman Returns" was pretty=20 good as well, simply because it wasn't connected to all the=20 previous "Batman" versions that had been created for the big screen.=20 However, "Superman Returns" is connected to the 1978 version in=20 several ways that didn't surprise me, except on one very interesting=20 issue. . .I must say that I was rather perplexed by the filmmakers=20 bringing back Marlon Brando as "Superman's" dad, ""Jor-El." After=20 all, Marlon had been in a lengthy law-suit with the original=20 production company over the use of his imagery in the second=20 film, "Superman II." This direct connection to the original makes=20 some movie-insiders feel that the filmmakers may have felt it was=20 vital to connect to the original on some sentimental basis, but in=20 all reality it wasn't so necessary. If that weren't enough, actress=20 Noel Neill, will be making a an appearance in this new=20 version! . . . She also made a cameo appearance in the 1978=20 film. . .But, even more intriguing is good old Jack Larson has his=20 very own appearance in "Superman Returns!" Already, this situation=20 is causing many to feel that the production company was desperate to=20 keep a good amount of older fans in getting interested in this new=20 version. Since it's somewhat universally considered that Superman is=20 the biggest of all comic book heroes, it might be practical to=20 relate to previous versions of this classic fantasy tale. It may be=20 that these issues will hinder the movie's attempt at breaking away=20 from both original versions. . .That is the one for television and=20 with Chris Reeve in the title role for the first "big screen" film=20 series. . .In this sense, "Batman Returns" is far more superior.=20 Naturally, there are those fans who will argue that all of this is=20 simply being nostalgic, if so, then "Superman Returns" is banking a=20 lot on previously already known and popular versions of the story! I won't compare the various performers in the major roles already=20 known from the previous versions, for both television and the=20 movies. . .I will say that the new cast members in the principal=20 roles are all good and worthy of a spectacular film as is this one.=20 I now seriously doubt that a lot will be banking on actor Brandon=20 Routh to carry off this new version into perhaps a new series of=20 films on Superman. . .I think this may be a "one picture"=20 deal. . .Of course, if the box-office explodes to unexpected=20 heights, then we might see something else materialize. It will=20 strongly depend on just how good this movie can recreate a good=20 amount of new hype towards Superman. --Steve From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Jun 16 10:30:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98782 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2006 17:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2006 17:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.56) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 17:30:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2006 17:28:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2006 17:28:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:28:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.39.88.47 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Small Press Idol 06 - Round 3! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=Wzv4inSMXCo-SAgKNT4LRML2OMCvX4Qs-dbZ-7fDxk6bMw X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 The projects in Small Press Idol have all posted their Round 3 work: 3- pages of sequential art and story that YOU can vote on to see who will=20 move on to Round 4 and have their #0 issues printed! If you haven't=20 been following the contest, now's a great time to jump on and see what=20 the TOP 13 projects out of the 50+ that started in this year's go at=20 it have done. These are the best new Indy Comic concepts and creative=20 teams out there, get in on the ground floor and pick your favorites,=20 vote, and enjoy their work for years to come! Here's the Idol homepage:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/smallpressidol/idol06/index.html Thanks for listening, and comments welcome! Ian Shires P.O. Box 214 Madison, OH 44057 From stevekeeter@yahoo.com Tue Jul 11 18:11:07 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25519 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Jul 2006 00:34:22 -0000 X-Sender: stevekeeter@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40379 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2006 12:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jul 2006 12:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.22) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2006 12:28:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2006 12:28:01 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2006 12:28:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:28:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.22 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.33.48.21 From: "stevekeeter" Subject: Joe Jenkins, RIP X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160559957; y=zdv-CdxYRXfunRXpY1X18Cr6RG8TJ0cif6qcexWWcn8j3Opw_Cw X-Yahoo-Profile: stevekeeter X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Jul 2006 00:34:22 -0000 Joe Jenkins was an original member of the BPP/UFO in the late=20 1960s/early 1970s. He contributed to many of the finest zines of the=20 day, including Carl Gafford's MINOTAUR and Chuck Robinson's COMIQUE. Today, I received this communication from Dwight Decker: Skeeter-- I don't know if you knew Joe from the old fan days, but I thought=20 I'd send=20 this... --Dwight Joe Jenkins, a member of K-a in the early '70s and a fan artist who=20 frequently contributed to many of the fanzines of the day, died June=20 22, 2006 in a=20 hospital in South Carolina. He was about 55. He had been in poor=20 health for many=20 years, starting with diabetes and its complications. A native of=20 Toledo, Ohio,=20 Joe had made an attempt circa 1973 to go to New York and break into=20 comics=20 professionally, but the experience was so personally disastrous for=20 him that he=20 went back to Toledo and gave up comics, fandom, and even his artwork=20 entirely.=20 He soon became an active Christian and deeply involved in his=20 church, with the=20 positive result of eventually meeting a woman whom he married in=20 1980. By all=20 accounts they had a happy marriage, despite Joe's worsening health=20 problems,=20 and had one daughter, now of college age. The not so positive result=20 of his=20 church involvement was that Joe drifted away from most of his old=20 friends from=20 his comics days. I last saw him at his wedding in 1980. He did,=20 however, keep=20 in touch with an old Toledo buddy named Mike Hough, with whom he had=20 gone to=20 school, and Mike talked to Joe on the phone a day or two before Joe=20 died. Most=20 of what I'm passing along here comes from Mike, who called my friend=20 Rick, who=20 passed it along to me. The thing about comics is that once you've got four-color ink in=20 your blood,=20 you never get it out entirely. Even Joe, who had tried to put comics=20 as much=20 behind him as anyone could, even after dedicating his life to his=20 religion,=20 still had occasional flashes of interest in comic things as they=20 came up in=20 conversation or to his attention, at least according to people who=20 knew him=20 afterwards. Mike Hough said that one of the things that Joe told him=20 on that last=20 phone call was that he was hoping to go see the new Superman movie=20 when he got=20 out of the hospital. From snoopy967@bigpond.com Mon Jul 24 05:13:39 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77729 invoked by uid 7800); 24 Jul 2006 12:10:16 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28574 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2006 06:55:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jul 2006 06:55:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.179) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2006 06:55:24 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.121] by n12.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2006 06:54:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by t2.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2006 06:54:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2006 06:54:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:54:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.179 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 60.231.231.64 From: "Daniel" Subject: Looking For X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=pXDqVjr8iamoY2R9igKvebwLbmTZOe2JIKnqu5DUMSMQH_PiuKCbkg X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 24 Jul 2006 12:10:16 -0000 Any issues of the following: Now & Then Times W.A.P. Marvelmania And pretty much any fanzine that features interviews/articles about=20 comic book professionals. Get in touch... Cheers Daniel From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Sep 19 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6898 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2006 17:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2006 17:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.178) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2006 17:28:56 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.122] by n11.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2006 17:27:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2006 17:27:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2006 17:27:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:27:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.39.88.47 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Small Press Idol - Round 4! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=1AaZyX9yK3cqq4KowxpWxHe9FHzMHsI8IES-W6jaPhk8HQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hello small press enthusiasts! Dimestore Productions is proud to announce that we're officially moving the Small Press Idol contest into it's final round for the year. 6 comic book projects are now vying for the title, and they have until October 8th to prove themselves. If you've lost track of the contest this year, fear not, even though the Dimestore site has undergone a complete 4-month re-coding project while the contest has been trying to maintain, all the previous rounds are ready for review, and all systems are a go. Let's bring it all home, and show the true spirit of small press! GO HERE:=20 http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/smallpressidol/idol06/index.html Thanks for the opportunity to let you know we're back and better than ever! Ian Shires From chat51@sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 28 14:41:23 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55656 invoked by uid 7800); 28 Sep 2006 21:37:16 -0000 X-Sender: chat51@sbcglobal.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30143 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2006 21:12:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2006 21:12:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.21) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2006 21:12:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2006 21:11:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2006 21:11:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:11:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.21 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.21.42.196 From: "trackspike74" Subject: the green hornet X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=202280312; y=A4fWgl5uq_FKIOdLkkmbYzoOn8t8IwZZVPivyqObtes_lE1PPTGY X-Yahoo-Profile: trackspike74 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 28 Sep 2006 21:37:16 -0000 HOW MANY OUT there have read the wow comics version of the green=20 hornet? i recived a buch of them last summer ! i like the tv version as well as the old time radio shows ! how about you out there in internet land, what do you think! i uploaded a couple of scans of the hornet,check it out !!!!! From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Sep 28 14:58:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96513 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2006 21:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2006 21:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2006 21:48:16 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.557.7626796 (57293) for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <557.7626796.324d9ca9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:46:17 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5331 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] the green hornet X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/28/2006 2:44:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, chat51@sbcglobal.net writes: HOW MANY OUT there have read the wow comics version of the green hornet? i recived a buch of them last summer ! i like the tv version as well as the old time radio shows ! how about you out there in internet land, what do you think! i uploaded a couple of scans of the hornet,check it out !!!!! You mean the Now Comics version? I wrote a dozen of them so I'm not exactly unbiased. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Sat Sep 30 17:30:25 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80693 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Oct 2006 00:26:58 -0000 X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37522 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2006 17:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2006 17:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n10b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.177) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2006 17:04:50 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.120] by n10.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 15:13:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 15:13:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 15:13:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:13:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.177 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=vPVSytsnpHUepOdueIE43dvtsNf-1BoZqV0rLIo0DdqCB7gVfnQ02z6B X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Oct 2006 00:26:58 -0000 That is the name of the new section on the IF site. Here is the link: Whatever Happened To... So Far I have John Fantacchio, Robert Kline and John Adkins Richardson. I got Fantacchio's address from Bill Schelly so wil be communication with him. I found an e-mail address for Richardson through then University he taught at (no reply yet). But I do not know how to contact Kline. If any one knows please let me know. Thanks DOC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Sep 30 17:41:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52475 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 00:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 00:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 00:34:45 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.c47.459e21f (48600) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:34:28 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5331 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2006 5:31:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Doc0715@aol.com writes: That is the name of the new section on the IF site. Here is the link: Whatever Happened To... The link doesn't work. Something's missing from it. I thought it was just missing an "l" at the end for html but that didn't fix it either. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Sat Sep 30 19:37:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 83585 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 02:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 02:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 02:29:23 -0000 Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.425.4c168e75 (45780) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-D29 (fwm-d29.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.5]) by ciaaol-r05.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLR055-b2d4451f26f7218; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:24:55 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:24:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 20221 Received: from 76.16.73.237 by FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.5) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:24:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8C8B317EB4D6B75-B38-44A4@FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.5 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821; y=wdyo2A4QgYL-ASUVL9akn3QkDXiht8oz1a8BeN60_15iwwV_vJ5JBw X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the right link: http://www.inter-fan.org/history/WhateverHappenedTo= o/Whateverhappenedto.htm =20 Just before the "htm" in the original address was a forward slash -- and th= ere is never a forward slash in an address. I substituted a period for the = forward slash and tried it that way, and it went right to the site. =20 Russ Maheras =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... In a message dated 9/30/2006 5:31:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 Doc0715@aol.com writes: That is the name of the new section on the IF site. Here is the link: Whatever Happened To... The link doesn't work. Something's missing from it. I thought it was just=20 missing an "l" at the end for html but that didn't fix it either. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security = tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, = free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Sep 30 19:55:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47556 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 02:49:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 02:49:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 02:49:45 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.2e3.11897f2d (48600) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2e3.11897f2d.32508541@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:43:13 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5331 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/2006 7:39:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rmaheras@aol.com writes: This is the right link: http://www.inter-fan.org/history/WhateverHappenedToo/Whateverhappenedto.htm Just before the "htm" in the original address was a forward slash -- and there is never a forward slash in an address. I substituted a period for the forward slash and tried it that way, and it went right to the site. Russ Maheras Perfect. It works now. Thanks. I also have an ddress for John Fantucchio but when I wrote to him a few years ago he declined to be interviewed.--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Oct 01 07:59:00 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 64472 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Oct 2006 14:58:38 -0000 X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64882 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 12:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 12:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.188) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 12:03:16 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.122] by n21.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 14:36:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 14:36:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2006 14:36:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:36:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.188 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: Joe Jenkins, RIP X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=QxnaXBOvlNwjmhWXrKhfIQ-jcS0_WTPs3hvHm5dZlGCYzts5N-3gHcUO X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Oct 2006 14:58:38 -0000 Hey Steve, I think I would like to add Joe to the IF Hall of Fame. Can you=20 assist? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "stevekeeter"=20 wrote: > > Joe Jenkins was an original member of the BPP/UFO in the late=20 > 1960s/early 1970s. He contributed to many of the finest zines of=20 the=20 > day, including Carl Gafford's MINOTAUR and Chuck Robinson's=20 COMIQUE. > Today, I received this communication from Dwight Decker: >=20 > Skeeter-- >=20 > I don't know if you knew Joe from the old fan days, but I thought=20 > I'd send=20 > this... >=20 > --Dwight >=20 > Joe Jenkins, a member of K-a in the early '70s and a fan artist=20 who=20 > frequently contributed to many of the fanzines of the day, died=20 June=20 > 22, 2006 in a=20 > hospital in South Carolina. He was about 55. He had been in poor=20 > health for many=20 > years, starting with diabetes and its complications. A native of=20 > Toledo, Ohio,=20 > Joe had made an attempt circa 1973 to go to New York and break=20 into=20 > comics=20 > professionally, but the experience was so personally disastrous=20 for=20 > him that he=20 > went back to Toledo and gave up comics, fandom, and even his=20 artwork=20 > entirely.=20 > He soon became an active Christian and deeply involved in his=20 > church, with the=20 > positive result of eventually meeting a woman whom he married in=20 > 1980. By all=20 > accounts they had a happy marriage, despite Joe's worsening health=20 > problems,=20 > and had one daughter, now of college age. The not so positive=20 result=20 > of his=20 > church involvement was that Joe drifted away from most of his old=20 > friends from=20 > his comics days. I last saw him at his wedding in 1980. He did,=20 > however, keep=20 > in touch with an old Toledo buddy named Mike Hough, with whom he=20 had=20 > gone to=20 > school, and Mike talked to Joe on the phone a day or two before=20 Joe=20 > died. Most=20 > of what I'm passing along here comes from Mike, who called my=20 friend=20 > Rick, who=20 > passed it along to me. >=20 > The thing about comics is that once you've got four-color ink in=20 > your blood,=20 > you never get it out entirely. Even Joe, who had tried to put=20 comics=20 > as much=20 > behind him as anyone could, even after dedicating his life to his=20 > religion,=20 > still had occasional flashes of interest in comic things as they=20 > came up in=20 > conversation or to his attention, at least according to people who=20 > knew him=20 > afterwards. Mike Hough said that one of the things that Joe told=20 him=20 > on that last=20 > phone call was that he was hoping to go see the new Superman movie=20 > when he got=20 > out of the hospital. > From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Oct 01 08:06:57 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69816 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Oct 2006 15:02:46 -0000 X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43328 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 03:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 03:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 03:11:54 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2006 03:09:35 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2006 03:09:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:09:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2e3.11897f2d.32508541@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=I82cQkkh8O9YKrr_u1Ssdb02SDMqk6Ip0Pe8SmystJj4Ody8SwTvZg72 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Oct 2006 15:02:46 -0000 Jim I wanted to know if the Williamson Collector came out OK. Still waiting for my daughter to finsh a couple of the articles so I can put the rest up. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 9/30/2006 7:39:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 > rmaheras@... writes: >=20 > This is the right link:=20=20 > http://www.inter-fan.org/history/WhateverHappenedToo/Whateverhappenedto.htm >=20 > Just before the "htm" in the original address was a forward slash -- and=20 > there is never a forward slash in an address. I substituted a period for the=20 > forward slash and tried it that way, and it went right to the site. >=20 > Russ Maheras >=20 >=20 > Perfect. It works now. Thanks. >=20=20 > I also have an ddress for John Fantucchio but when I wrote to him a few=20=20 > years ago he declined to be interviewed.--James Van Hise >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Oct 01 08:13:44 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57681 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Oct 2006 15:11:30 -0000 X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72511 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 03:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 03:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.22) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 03:05:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2006 03:05:13 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2006 03:05:12 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:05:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2e3.11897f2d.32508541@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.22 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Whatever Happened to... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=FgKKeT8KrH9wxCjImKFQPwkPfhlBBHyKxvH0KV9fdsVF2pyc6PiJTVft X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Oct 2006 15:11:30 -0000 Thanks Russ. Really Jim? That would be a shame but will still write him. I also sent I still haven't heard from Prof. Richardson. My next one will be Jim Jones. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 9/30/2006 7:39:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 > rmaheras@... writes: >=20 > This is the right link:=20=20 > http://www.inter-fan.org/history/WhateverHappenedToo/Whateverhappenedto.htm >=20 > Just before the "htm" in the original address was a forward slash -- and=20 > there is never a forward slash in an address. I substituted a period for the=20 > forward slash and tried it that way, and it went right to the site. >=20 > Russ Maheras >=20 >=20 > Perfect. It works now. Thanks. >=20=20 > I also have an ddress for John Fantucchio but when I wrote to him a few=20=20 > years ago he declined to be interviewed.--James Van Hise >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From jameshburns@webtv.net Sun Oct 01 09:21:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14234 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 16:16:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2006 16:16:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.138) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 16:16:02 -0000 Received: from storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 1240029D75 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id JAA09229; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRXSKUaJECOXLcrMs2tGNODZSJGGAIUOUVm97GwU1xJQplz8FkDo+Ay7J4= Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:15:57 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <16552-451FE9BD-5183@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 1 Oct 2006 10:37:49 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Re: Robert Kline (Was, Whatever Happened To...) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=1HBwFucKxUf2tHaOIea9VvN3Hd3SFFnnrABQa1r297lPXbsxC3Of X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 When watching the new DVD release of Filmation's FLASH GORDON, I got a kick out of seeing Bob interviewed, in the enclosed documentary. (Bob was one of the key figures at Filmation, for years.) I would imagine the animation guild in Hollywood, whatever it's called exactly, would have contact information, for him. (Even if I was mortified that the DVD made no use of the Filmation histories, the first of their kind, that I wrote back then!) ;-) Best, Jim From Doc0715@aol.com Mon Oct 02 07:46:21 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56677 invoked by uid 7800); 2 Oct 2006 14:41:13 -0000 X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92407 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2006 13:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2006 13:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.179) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2006 13:42:03 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.122] by n12.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2006 13:41:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by t3.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2006 13:41:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2006 13:41:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <16552-451FE9BD-5183@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.179 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: Robert Kline (Was, Whatever Happened To...) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=jc8O-MM2ZNofZv8iw27TUkIPGA8x1ayjlrSbKSWS6u3tEgeU6LjvlpeA X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 2 Oct 2006 14:41:13 -0000 Thanks Jim, I will try that. That last sentence, did you write articles on=20 Filmation? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jameshburns@... wrote: > >=20 > When watching the new DVD release of Filmation's FLASH GORDON, I=20 got a > kick out of seeing Bob interviewed, in the enclosed documentary.=20=20 >=20 > (Bob was one of the key figures at Filmation, for years.) >=20 > I would imagine the animation guild in Hollywood, whatever it's=20 called > exactly, would have contact information, for him. >=20 > (Even if I was mortified that the DVD made no use of the Filmation > histories, the first of their kind, that I wrote back then!) >=20 > ;-) >=20 > Best, Jim > From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Oct 06 08:47:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43700 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2006 15:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Oct 2006 15:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.133) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2006 15:47:27 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.58] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2006 15:46:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by s2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2006 15:46:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2006 15:46:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:46:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.133 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: Dwight Decker on Dr. Frederick Wertham X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=3D0wmmxdTT0JpnUjIZTCSjFh3_Gjfdu3W26yOjaKCzTSACy7dZfp8yXu X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have noticed a lot of mentions on Seduction lately. My friend Gene Phillips has also been doing research on this subject and has been posting on the IF site. Please go to the link below and put opinions in : http://www.inter-fan.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=45260a9c21faffff;act=ST\ ;f=24;t=1 DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "stevekeeter" wrote: > > I recently came across a lengthy article by Dwight Decker on > Dr. Frederick Wertham, the notorious author of SEDUCTION OF THE > INNOCENT. The article is posted in its entireity on another site, > but here's the section that deals with Wertham's discovery of comics > fandom, and the book that he wrote about it (his last, before he > died in 1981): > > Dr. Wertham then expressed curiosity about fanzines and > fandom. I wrote back answering his questions - and the next thing I > knew, I was hearing that he was writing to fanzine publishers and > requesting copies of their publications. Dr. Wertham's letters even > began appearing in fanzine letter columns, often politely justifying > his views on violence and the media to unsympathetic fan editors, > often just participating in the conversation and commenting amiably > about unrelated matters brought up in a previous issue. In his own > way, he was getting involved in fandom. Still, there was always an > element of suspicion and distrust on the part of comics fans. No one > was quite sure what he was really after. Some people, fearing a > Seduction -style hatchet job on fandom, flatly refused to send him > their fanzines; others did so reluctantly. > What Dr. Wertham was up to turned out to be his last book, > published by Southern Illinois University Press in 1974: The World > of Fanzines: A Special Form of Communication. It wasn't a hatchet > job at all. Quite the opposite: it was a love letter to comics > fandom. This was the man who had blasted comic books in Seduction of > the Innocent and A Sign for Cain, accusing them of every sin he > could think of, including making their readers into moral monsters - > now Dr. Wertham was praising the efforts of comic-book readers, and > presenting our internal hobby publications as the very model of non- > violent communication by bright young people. > It was also a very strange book, with wide margins and scant > text. One whole chapter was nothing but a one-column list of fanzine > titles and the places they were published. One reviewer called the > book "repetitious, belaboring the obvious, and poorly organized." > Reading it, one gets the impression of a man very much out of touch > with the world, and making a great deal out of very little. His > choices of artwork for reproductions in the book seem limited to > what he had on hand in his drawer rather than to any systematic > purpose. More to the point, Dr. Wertham had completely misunderstood > the nature and purpose of comics fandom. Apparently, after spending > so many years as a practicing psychiatrist working with the New York > City criminal court system, seeing a never-ending stream of violent > psychopaths and disturbed juveniles, he was evidently charmed when > he tripped across a little subculture of young people spontaneously > communicating peacefully among themselves without adult supervision > or encouragement. > > > Mr. Decker's own fanzine "Torch". > > Dr. Wertham's account in the introductory chapter of how he > got involved with fanzines is interesting, as he doesn't mention > Seduction of the Innocent or his anti-comic book work in the '50s. > The unknowing reader is left with the impression that Wertham is > simply a public figure known for his "writings or talks on such > subjects as mass media, youth problems, or violence," and fanzine > editors sent him their publications just to communicate pleasantly > with the nice gentleman in response. Wertham gives no hint of his > personal position in the world of fanzines as a near-legendary > bogeyman, regarded by many of their editors and contributors as > incarnate evil walking the earth. > He seemed to only reluctantly acknowledge comic books and > science fiction as the source of fanzines and fandom, and gave a > couple of the most skewed capsule histories of the genres I've ever > seen, concentrating on their anti-war and non-violent aspects. In > discussing the comics fanzines' emphasis on superheroes, he offered > the remark that "the creative imagination of fanzine writers and > artists, especially the younger ones, tends in the direction of > heroes, maybe in that lies a message for our unheroic age." This is > more than a little remarkable coming from the man who in Seduction > classified superheroes as a bizarre variant of "crime comics" and > thought Superman in particular was a fascist avatar. Mostly, he > glosses over the comic-book connection of comics fandom, treating it > puzzledly or condescendingly when he can't avoid it, and seems to > proceed on the premise that fandom just spontaneously organized > itself as a communications vehicle for teenagers, with comic books > only an incidental, even accidental aspect of it all. As usual, Dr. > Wertham concentrates on violence and is delighted to report that > there isn't any in the world of fanzines. > The World of Fanzines is a masterpiece of scholarship gone > off the track. It's the only book you'll find about its subject in > most libraries even though the author never quite understood what he > was writing about. He never said as much - he couldn't admit it for > the sake of professional pride, perhaps - but The World of Fanzines > contradicts everything Dr. Wertham wrote about comic books and their > readers in his previous books. > In the end, he decided, we'd turned out pretty much all > right. > > --Steve > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Robert@BLBComics.com Sun Oct 08 13:22:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Robert@BLBComics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67755 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2006 20:12:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2006 20:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redgap.net) (64.47.33.14) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2006 20:12:33 -0000 Received: from [4.228.162.103] (unverified [4.228.162.103]) by earth (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 73393342 for multiple; Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:09:44 -0500 Return-Path: In-Reply-To: <1160214774.440.23112.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1160214774.440.23112.m20@yahoogroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6AFCC6D4-CED7-49AF-80CE-D6D5A47B1F31@BLBComics.com> Cc: beerbohm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:12:20 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1559051701 X-Authenticated-User: beerbohm@teknetwork.com X-Originating-IP: 64.47.33.14 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Re: Dwight Decker on Dr. Frederick Wertham (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 558 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252483439; y=XBvQ7Yg0yc4aM8cOPiCh5CLEHOW9zd-L4qLW0gazmOhvc9k5 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics I remember in 1969 getting a phone call from Fred Wertham, wanting to sub to my fanzine FANZATION. We talked for a little while, me wanting to know WHY he wanted my fanzine, and me being worried about being "outed" as a comic book reader. We exchanged letters for a while, same time span i was exchanging letters with Steve Ditko, among other comics pros. Ditko contributed to FANZATION #3 Long story short, come 1974, i am out Berkeley Calif running Comics & Comix with my partners John Barrett and Bud Plant, and THW WORLD OF FANZINES shows up. Imagine my surprise, when, upon reading it, i discover Wertham had referenced my zine at least nine times, including uncrediting quoting Ditko from FANZATION 3 The index in the back of TWOF is useless. It indexes FANZTION just two times, and one of those is on the wrong page WHY Wertham wrote TWOF is because he realized he was wrong, he thought we turned out OK Robert Beerbohm www.BLBcomics.com From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Oct 08 19:38:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26191 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 02:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2006 02:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.32) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 02:31:00 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n15.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2006 02:30:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2006 02:30:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:30:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6AFCC6D4-CED7-49AF-80CE-D6D5A47B1F31@BLBComics.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Dwight Decker on Dr. Frederick Wertham (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 558 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=FeA-wDZQk6mYEL_aBT_50uNUP1ILdJVbotb2lgSWQdDe-nL22-gUqbuh X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Great story. Is there a way to have some rememberences about your time in Fandom back then as I am trying to collect this info for my INTER-FAN site. You wouldn't happen to have any back issues of your zine perhaps? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Robert Beerbohm wrote: > > I remember in 1969 getting a phone call from Fred Wertham, wanting to = =20 > sub to my fanzine FANZATION. We talked for a little while, me wanting = =20 > to know WHY he wanted my fanzine, and me being worried about being=20=20 > "outed" as a comic book reader. >=20 > We exchanged letters for a while, same time span i was exchanging=20=20 > letters with Steve Ditko, among other comics pros. Ditko contributed=20=20 > to FANZATION #3 >=20 > Long story short, come 1974, i am out Berkeley Calif running Comics & = =20 > Comix with my partners John Barrett and Bud Plant, and THW WORLD OF=20=20 > FANZINES shows up. >=20 > Imagine my surprise, when, upon reading it, i discover Wertham had=20=20 > referenced my zine at least nine times, including uncrediting quoting = =20 > Ditko from FANZATION 3 >=20 > The index in the back of TWOF is useless. It indexes FANZTION just=20=20 > two times, and one of those is on the wrong page >=20 > WHY Wertham wrote TWOF is because he realized he was wrong, he=20=20 > thought we turned out OK >=20 > Robert Beerbohm > www.BLBcomics.com > From Doc0715@aol.com Sat Oct 14 08:28:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32122 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2006 15:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Oct 2006 15:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.50) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2006 15:27:40 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n21.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2006 15:26:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.70] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2006 15:26:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:26:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.50 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: Robert Kline (Was, Whatever Happened To...) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=ydVV3ZUxQHXjRAPpQYSe3Gw_h-x-69pPYmjoqOMlgOV_qQ1v2Zc5gsvF X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Just to update, I have recieved a response from Bob Kline and hope to have his page updated in a couple of days as he sent me two new recent pieces. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "lance boucher" wrote: > > Thanks Jim, > I will try that. That last sentence, did you write articles on=20 > Filmation? > DOC >=20 >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jameshburns@ wrote: > > > >=20 > > When watching the new DVD release of Filmation's FLASH GORDON, I=20 > got a > > kick out of seeing Bob interviewed, in the enclosed documentary.=20=20 > >=20 > > (Bob was one of the key figures at Filmation, for years.) > >=20 > > I would imagine the animation guild in Hollywood, whatever it's=20 > called > > exactly, would have contact information, for him. > >=20 > > (Even if I was mortified that the DVD made no use of the Filmation > > histories, the first of their kind, that I wrote back then!) > >=20 > > ;-) > >=20 > > Best, Jim > > > From splitxam@yahoo.com Sat Oct 21 21:19:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92257 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2006 04:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Oct 2006 04:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.55) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2006 04:19:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2006 04:18:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.71] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2006 04:18:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:18:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: some great fanzines on eBay now... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=9mdtPweePaTaS459Ff9PTK6RPm4y97lGkX5ABCCQccbmKF4 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam I've got some GREAT fanzine auctions up this week:=20=20 copies of Fantastic Exploits #16 (Dr. Weird by Starlin & Keltner), #20 (Thun'da by Frazetta),=20 #'s 21, 23 (Maxor by Richardson) Bill Wilson's The Collector #28 Ditko's Mr. A. (#1 from 1973) As well as lots of other cool things=85 Search under the seller ID: rosjim to see them all. ~Jim From Doc0715@aol.com Sat Oct 21 22:38:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24094 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2006 05:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Oct 2006 05:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.26) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2006 05:34:37 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2006 05:34:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2006 05:34:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:34:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.26 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: some great fanzines on eBay now... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=4y4BPZ5BsMW0qPWF87rtniMmvBrVtrZVcyBqlSA9dykO18j0iZGR4JN8 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Watching a few of those as I have the others. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > I've got some GREAT fanzine auctions up this week:=20=20 >=20 > copies of Fantastic Exploits #16 (Dr. Weird by Starlin & Keltner), > #20 (Thun'da by Frazetta),=20 > #'s 21, 23 (Maxor by Richardson) > Bill Wilson's The Collector #28 > Ditko's Mr. A. (#1 from 1973) >=20 > As well as lots of other cool things=85 >=20 > Search under the seller ID: >=20 > rosjim >=20 > to see them all. >=20 > ~Jim > From splitxam@yahoo.com Sun Oct 29 10:30:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90989 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2006 18:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2006 18:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2006 18:28:42 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n28.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2006 18:28:28 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2006 18:28:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:28:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.21 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: great auctions up this week (including some excellent fanzines) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=1ibjuAowrXT8oolG0PbIvXCmQphY_p3tTQRHwS4IfrCOB7s X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam I have some more great auctions up on eBay this week: Fantastic Four issues from the early 1970's, T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents=20 issues from the 1960's, fanzines, X-Men paperbacks and comics, Star=20 Trek : DS9 issues, a John Byrne Doomsday + 1 run, Herbie issues, a=20 COMPLETE RUN of Kirby's Phantom Force, Flaming Carrot and Cerebus=20 issues, and more=85 Search under seller ID: rosjim to see them all. Add me to your favorites list; I have more great=20 stuff from the GA =96 recent issues going up almost every week. Thanks for looking, Jim From djatf@aol.com Mon Nov 13 17:34:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27872 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0000 Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.bf4.8a5fefd (52322) for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from MBLK-M39 (mblk-m39.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.83]) by ciaaol-d02.mail.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD028-cc6245591bd034b; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:48 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:48 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 21462 Received: from 216.203.112.162 by MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.83) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:48 -0500 Message-Id: <8C8D5A35E16EA11-A90-FDCC@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.136.83 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=btXNn0TB-17o21XFqFagHNpV4m5ZC94OoZAOC5H-f69f1zMIniU X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Want to let the group know that IT'S A FANZINE is back after a 7-year absence. Bill Schelly's books about '60s fandom, which I was a fringe part of, inspired me to dust off the pages to #49 I had done back in 2000, write a new editorial, and get the darn thing published. It's 44 pages filled with our old-fashioned fannish fun, topped off with a great Russ Maheras cover that's a tribute to MARS ATTACKS. Plus features like "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered", Jerry Siegel's final story for Mort Weisinger, The Lost Marvel Annual, Mister Oswald, John Wells' Historama, Comic Strip Circus, a review of Golden Age Green Lantern Archives #1, Tales of the Uncollected, Charlton Forum, the Dell-Gold Key Collector, the Archie Archives, Grumpy Old Fans Appreciation Room, and plenty more. No ads, just cover to cover articles and art by us aging but not quite over the hill yet fans. I'm looking to update my old subscriber/contributor address list so I can get copies out to everyone who's owed one, so if you think you might be on that list, or are just interested in more info about good old IAF, shoot me an e-mail at fangene@aol.com and we'll get everything up to date and get the ball rolling again so I can get to work on landmark issue 50, which is going to be REALLY loaded with cool stuff. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks Gene Kehoe-Editor ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Nov 13 17:57:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3977 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 01:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2006 01:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.79) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 01:49:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 73692 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 01:49:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.118.141.145?) (ditko37@rogers.com@74.118.141.145 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 01:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <455920C5.1090607@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:49:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: <8C8D5A35E16EA11-A90-FDCC@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C8D5A35E16EA11-A90-FDCC@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.79 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered?" (Was Re: [cbzines] IT'S A FANZINE) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=kF9ljhv5Lyo_WLIN_5_j8c5ErLwsu2rhxmRECB-bMk3hH2mDcRjPpA1p5EFr X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Congrats, Gene! Can you give us the scoop on the feature "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered?" SINcerely, Blake in Toronto http://www.ditko.comics.org/ djatf@aol.com wrote: > Want to let the group know that IT'S A FANZINE is back after a 7-year > absence. Bill Schelly's books about '60s fandom, which I was a fringe > part of, inspired me to dust off the pages to #49 I had done back in > 2000, write a new editorial, and get the darn thing published. It's 44 > pages filled with our old-fashioned fannish fun, topped off with a > great Russ Maheras cover that's a tribute to MARS ATTACKS. Plus > features like "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered", Jerry Siegel's final > story for Mort Weisinger, The Lost Marvel Annual, Mister Oswald, John > Wells' Historama, Comic Strip Circus, a review of Golden Age Green > Lantern Archives #1, Tales of the Uncollected, Charlton Forum, the > Dell-Gold Key Collector, the Archie Archives, Grumpy Old Fans > Appreciation Room, and plenty more. No ads, just cover to cover > articles and art by us aging but not quite over the hill yet fans. I'm > looking to update my old subscriber/contributor address list so I can > get copies out to everyone who's owed one, so if you think you might > be on that list, or are just interested in more info about good old > IAF, shoot me an e-mail at fangene@aol.com > and we'll get everything up to date and get the ball rolling again so > I can get to work on landmark issue 50, which is going to be REALLY > loaded with cool stuff. Look forward to hearing from you. > Thanks > Gene Kehoe-Editor > __________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > From Doc0715@aol.com Tue Nov 14 20:41:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 79407 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2006 04:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2006 04:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.214) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2006 04:34:16 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2006 04:32:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2006 04:32:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2006 04:32:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:32:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8C8D5A35E16EA11-A90-FDCC@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.214 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=TneUy0ChmEvpvL3XUhvANi-0K7oh0RdLce0cBdW7YcUyBpC5UBFKXs_c X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, djatf@... wrote: > Sent you an e-mail. Good to see you back. DOC=20=20 Want to let the group know that IT'S A FANZINE is back after a=20 7-year absence. Bill Schelly's books about '60s fandom, which I was a fringe part of, inspired me to dust off the pages to #49 I had done back in 2000, write a new editorial, and get the darn thing published. It's 44 pages filled with our old-fashioned fannish fun, topped off with a great Russ Maheras cover that's a tribute to MARS ATTACKS. Plus features like "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered", Jerry Siegel's final story for Mort Weisinger, The Lost Marvel Annual, Mister Oswald, John Wells' Historama, Comic Strip Circus, a review of Golden Age Green Lantern Archives #1, Tales of the Uncollected, Charlton Forum, the Dell-Gold Key Collector, the Archie Archives, Grumpy Old Fans Appreciation Room, and plenty more. No ads, just cover to cover articles and art by us aging but not quite over the hill yet fans. I'm looking to update my old subscriber/contributor address list so I can get copies out to everyone who's owed one, so if you think you might be on that list, or are just interested in more info about good old IAF, shoot me an e-mail at fangene@... and we'll get everything up to date and get the ball rolling again so I can get to work on landmark issue 50, which is going to be REALLY loaded with cool stuff. Look forward to hearing from you. > Thanks > Gene Kehoe-Editor > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From ric.croxton@gmail.com Wed Nov 15 02:29:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66350 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2006 10:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2006 10:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.182) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2006 10:22:25 -0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so93466pyb for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.113.12 with SMTP id q12mr3157536pym.1163586145175; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.105.11 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:22:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a0611150222n51aabb13nf2b13a72d852be7e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:22:24 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8C8D5A35E16EA11-A90-FDCC@MBLK-M39.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.182 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "Ric Croxton" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=GpE8ux7zEEEFn0GW5t2l6VqlcTyVvf38CdmGQSd8Dmwgt7fi-A X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I ordered #48 & 49 and looking forward to reading. Ric On 11/14/06, lance boucher wrote: > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, > djatf@... wrote: > > > Sent you an e-mail. Good to see you back. > DOC > > Want to let the group know that IT'S A FANZINE is back after a > 7-year absence. Bill Schelly's books about '60s fandom, which I was a > fringe part of, inspired me to dust off the pages to #49 I had done > back in 2000, write a new editorial, and get the darn thing published. > It's 44 pages filled with our old-fashioned fannish fun, topped off > with a great Russ Maheras cover that's a tribute to MARS ATTACKS. Plus > features like "The Month Mr. Ditko Wandered", Jerry Siegel's final > story for Mort Weisinger, The Lost Marvel Annual, Mister Oswald, John > Wells' Historama, Comic Strip Circus, a review of Golden Age Green > Lantern Archives #1, Tales of the Uncollected, Charlton Forum, the > Dell-Gold Key Collector, the Archie Archives, Grumpy Old Fans > Appreciation Room, and plenty more. No ads, just cover to cover > articles and art by us aging but not quite over the hill yet fans. I'm > looking to update my old subscriber/contributor address list so I can > get copies out to everyone who's owed one, so if you think you might > be on that list, or are just interested in more info about good old > IAF, shoot me an e-mail at fangene@... and we'll get everything up to > date and get the ball rolling again so I can get to work on landmark > issue 50, which is going to be REALLY loaded with cool stuff. Look > forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks > > Gene Kehoe-Editor > > __________________________________________________________ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Nov 24 06:02:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29698 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2006 13:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2006 13:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n4b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.183) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2006 13:56:50 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 13:55:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 13:55:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 13:55:34 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:55:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.183 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=xhD4CVqxEZdhGYkwOpE3MFpbyBbbVv6lsD15RIO52UGpiD9hw-qs9ZJU X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Got this from Ed Savage: "One piece of sad news came in just now. Jerry Bails, the preeminent scholar on comics and the father of comic fandom, has died at 73. I didn't know the man personally, but all of us who are comic fans, or have been at one time in our lives, owe him a hugh debut of gratitude for his work in preserving the history of comics and many of the comics themselves."=20 Have no further details. DOC From ditko37@rogers.com Fri Nov 24 06:17:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 10833 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.37.202) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2006 14:04:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 72496 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Nov 2006 14:03:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20061124140324.72494.qmail@web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.114.255.3] by web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:03:24 EST Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:03:24 -0500 (EST) To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 206.190.37.202 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: BLAKE BELL Subject: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=3lq3T4SS-9OzvWiM0ExqezykA8zkki4qiDAMwknkdEjvZcMLsg4Tw5QN1XOc X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always memorable and encouraging. I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what we've lost. So sudden, though. Blake Bell [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Nov 24 11:42:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55501 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2006 19:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2006 19:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.170) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2006 19:36:27 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n8.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:35:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:35:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:35:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:35:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20061124140324.72494.qmail@web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.170 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=o7fiwwG4qqKTOWgsmlJ0dRCOw562bj--OZiM-m2SnadgbeW9GRLPl5M_ X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Thanks for the link Blake. I wrote to Mark to get some more info and to have him help with a Hall of fame page I will do for Jerry on my IF site. I was writing an article about Jerry and had been in communication with him and he seemd to be in good spirits. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, BLAKE BELL =20 wrote: > > Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... >=20=20=20=20 > http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 >=20=20=20=20 > It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. >=20=20=20=20 > He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. >=20=20=20=20 > Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always memorable and encouraging. >=20=20=20=20 > I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what we've lost. So sudden, though. >=20=20=20=20 > Blake Bell >=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Nov 24 11:44:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7208 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2006 19:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2006 19:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.114) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2006 19:34:52 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n13.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:33:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:33:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2006 19:33:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:33:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20061124140324.72494.qmail@web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.114 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=14cJtphxTvpS1plpvJntkQqtovzSVYKq2coNaR1_SsDPyGmXPIANP9ct X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, BLAKE BELL wrote: > > Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... >=20=20=20=20 > http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 >=20=20=20=20 > It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. >=20=20=20=20 > He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. >=20=20=20=20 > Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always memorable and encouraging. >=20=20=20=20 > I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what we've lost. So sudden, though. >=20=20=20=20 > Blake Bell >=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Nov 24 17:11:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95246 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2006 01:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2006 01:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.217) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2006 01:02:21 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 01:01:57 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 01:01:57 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 01:01:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 01:01:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.217 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=J4Gzb2UzUgRjv3BS0pGlv5PlcYWNaov6iqj1-27yqzx2OrGygKDRpCzF X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Anyone who wants to share their thoughts even if you did not know him. I will put in his page n the IF Hall of fame I will set up next week. I hope to have my first part of my article about Jerry by December. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "lance boucher" wrote: > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, BLAKE BELL wrote: > > > > Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this > morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... > >=20=20=20=20 > > http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 > >=20=20=20=20 > > It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late > '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's > impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. > >=20=20=20=20 > > He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann > Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" > book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't > see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and > it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. > >=20=20=20=20 > > Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always > memorable and encouraging. > >=20=20=20=20 > > I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what > we've lost. So sudden, though. > >=20=20=20=20 > > Blake Bell > >=20=20=20=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > From detroitmik@aol.com Fri Nov 24 19:10:35 2006 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 78530 invoked by uid 7800); 25 Nov 2006 02:54:43 -0000 X-Sender: Detroitmik@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60449 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2006 23:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2006 23:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2006 23:03:42 -0000 Received: from Detroitmik@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.d1c.a85424 (60435) for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d25 (mblk-d25.mblk.aol.com [205.188.149.17]) by ciaaol-d01.mail.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD014-ec1345677315248; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:32:53 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:32:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 22250 Received: from 68.41.24.92 by mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com (205.188.149.17) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:32:53 -0500 Message-Id: <8C8DE2F9D605E03-940-C8FE@mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.149.17 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 From: detroitmik@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59123785; y=j8jmfakPp-5wVSNtgGZAddhvYjE_cbKaiJS2a7BFFQkpuxyz85ObaagP X-Yahoo-Profile: detroitmike1967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 25 Nov 2006 02:54:43 -0000 jerry bails was a great guy. he sent me a couple of items he had laying aro= und (for free), after i struck up a conversation with him at a local shop. = it was a rush getting a large envelope with "j. bails" on the return addres= s. he spoke of some of the neat items he had once owned and how great the i= nternet is for comic collectors. he encouraged me to contribute to the gcd.= he'll be missed. =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Doc0715@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 2:35 PM Subject: [cbzines] Re: RIP Jerry Bails Thanks for the link Blake. I wrote to Mark to get some more info and to have him help with a Hall of fame page I will do for Jerry on my IF site. I was writing an article about Jerry and had been in communication with him and he seemd to be in good spirits. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, BLAKE BELL =20 wrote: > > Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... >=20 > http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 >=20 > It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. >=20 > He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. >=20 > Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always memorable and encouraging. >=20 > I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what we've lost. So sudden, though. >=20 > Blake Bell >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > =20 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security = tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, = free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Nov 24 20:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26530 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2006 04:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2006 04:00:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.55) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2006 04:00:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 04:00:40 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 04:00:40 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:00:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8C8DE2F9D605E03-940-C8FE@mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: [cbzines] Re: RIP Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=JYLpTMgR9mAp0XyL7M3ig9N7IioceFGlRaOlF_IKSNcoVJP2nnqNXHdh X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Thanks for the reememberence. I did get this from his widow: "I have been reading the kind words about Jerry and shared them with his sons as well. I thank you as do they. I hope to get around to send a more personal thanks to each soon. What would Jerry say? He would probably have said, "awe, stop--you are making me blush." :-) Actually it is MY read of his involvement in fandom that it was not all about him--it was about YOU. Surprisingly as it may seem, fandom was not that much about comic characters either but rather it was about people discovering their potential in whatever area and developing confidence in what they could do. Also, fandom was above all good people cooperating with one another to create an entity that was greater than the sum of its parts. Looking at the size of some of the fanworks and conventions he would sometimes joke, "a monster has been created" but it was a monster he dearly loved. He had no misgivings about fandom going on quite well without him. It will because of all of you. Thank you very much. Jean Bails" He will be missed. DOC=20=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, detroitmik@... wrote: > > jerry bails was a great guy. he sent me a couple of items he had laying around (for free), after i struck up a conversation with him at a local shop. it was a rush getting a large envelope with "j. bails" on the return address. he spoke of some of the neat items he had once owned and how great the internet is for comic collectors. he encouraged me to contribute to the gcd. he'll be missed. >=20=20 >=20=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Doc0715@... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 2:35 PM > Subject: [cbzines] Re: RIP Jerry Bails >=20 >=20 > Thanks for the link Blake. I wrote to Mark to get some more info and > to have him help with a Hall of fame page I will do for Jerry on my IF > site. I was writing an article about Jerry and had been in > communication with him and he seemd to be in good spirits. > DOC >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, BLAKE BELL =20 >=20 > wrote: > > > > Oh wow, this just came as an unwelcome bolt out of the blue this > morning. Mark Evanier has a personal reminiscience here... > >=20 > > http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2006_11_23.html#012470 > >=20 > > It may have been on the Grand Comics Database list in the late > '90s, or elsewhere, but...well, tough to try and encapsulate a man's > impact on his chosen passion like Jerry had. > >=20 > > He had a big impact on me. I sent him the first chapter - the Ann > Eisner one - I was working on for my "I Have To Live WIth This Guy!" > book - because I was struggling with making it any good, but couldn't > see the forest through the trees - and he really set me straight and > it really sharpened how I approached the whole project. > >=20 > > Any and all personal contact I had with him via email was always > memorable and encouraging. > >=20 > > I'll do my best to remember what he contributed, rather than what > we've lost. So sudden, though. > >=20 > > Blake Bell > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From ric.croxton@gmail.com Fri Nov 24 23:22:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11415 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2006 07:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2006 07:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.187) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2006 07:11:45 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n5.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 07:09:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 07:09:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2006 07:09:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:09:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.187 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.247.167.216 From: "Richard Croxton" Subject: It's A Fanzine! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=gabYMiLzaDxoxwIZiHGIWorYQV5ZldOs79jXxSrCTDZyIlg2Rg X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 I just recieved issues #48 & 49 today and I have to say they look=20 great! When my wife looked at them she immediately was reminded of the=20 Rocket's Blast Comicollector. Needless to say she too was impressed by=20 the quality of the books. I look forward to finish reading the two=20 issues I have and buying all the back issues that are available. You=20 should keep this Fanzine going, I for one will subscribe to it. Ric Croxton From CArchivist@aol.com Sat Nov 25 12:16:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84248 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2006 20:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2006 20:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2006 20:15:19 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.ca9.45889a0 (33856); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:57:38 EST To: APA-I@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, MikeGold@aol.com, Doc0715@aol.com, edsavage@earthlink.net, Robert@blbcomics.com, richardh@sigltd.demon.co.uk, alberto.becattini@tiscali.it, AMASH@aol.com, Paul.Levitz@dccomics.com, craigdelich@yahoo.com, lionel@beanmar.net, Magilla445@aol.com, cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org, GCDEditor@lists.comics.org, intercom@cumberland.org, cdbl@lists.comics.org, gcd-tech@lists.comics.org, Grandcomicsdata@yahoogroups.com, globalvillage@lists.comics.org, rc.harvey@sbcglobal.net, groth@tcj.com, tonyisa@ohio.net, denis@deniskitchen.com, MaisonRK@aol.com, jonal@nostromo.no, mikecatron@gmail.com, TwoMorrow@aol.com, Cartomancer@netzero.net, f.norwood@att.net, bud@budplant.com, GeneR94844@aol.com, mrhode@gmail.com, tonyrose1@comcast.net, stevene.rowe@gmail.com, rrubenfeld@mindspring.com, WSchelly@aol.com, scottr@mail.lib.msu.edu, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, WiscPackRat@WI.RR.com, d.southwood@comcast.net, tstroup@coldcut.com, roydann@ntinet.com, ThompsonM@Krause.com, Timely-Atlas-Comics@yahoogroups.com, jim@bpib.com, HamesWare@aol.com, yoecomix@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 291 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: CArchivist@aol.com Subject: Plans for Jerry's Memorial X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=yVMBQnIjD1_mIrwx3bIFDyd9iDu41YL9MGDRRFedH1VNV_B6ZQ X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Further word from Jean Bails (swimbails@aol.com) about plans regarding any= =20 memorial service... " We have decided against having either a formal or informal memorial servi= ce=20 at THIS time.=A0 Instead, we were thinking of maybe planning a get-together= =20 sometime around Jerry's birthday in June.=A0 If there were a convention in = the area=20 it could=A0 maybe be coordinated around that time but not so that it would= =20 interfere with the convention activities.=A0 For those who may have thought= of=20 sending flowers, Jerry would have preferred instead a small donation to Amn= esty=20 International or Doctors Without Borders or any charity of choice.=A0 No=20 pressure--no donations are fine too.=A0 We don't keep track of such things.= " I will post anything further when I hear of them. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From djatf@aol.com Sat Nov 25 15:22:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73675 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2006 23:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2006 23:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m16.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.206) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2006 23:14:30 -0000 Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.c5e.7e4904c (60469) for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from WEBMAIL-MB12 (webmail-mb12.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.160]) by ciaaol-m02.mx.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLM022-ec354568ce191fd; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:13:29 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:13:29 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 22250 Received: from 216.203.112.162 by WEBMAIL-MB12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.160) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:13:29 -0500 Message-Id: <8C8DEFE7415353E-918-7804@WEBMAIL-MB12.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.170.160 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: It's A Fanzine and Jerry Bails X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=mfL67jdPhOdhgx-zWBMDWi5M5oujWUH560464oVMKbIJrktLuk0 X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's A Fanzine is really a conglomeration of all the article zines I read in the '60s and '70s: The Comic Crusader, The Collector, Marvel Mirror, Concussion, Hero, Alter Ego, etc. It's gotten heavier on articles and lighter on art, and all ads have completely disappeared, as the years have gone by. And the passing of Jerry Bails was indeed sudden and very sad. Without the fanzines he started--Alter Ego, The Comic Collector half of RBCC, The Comic Reader...heck, the whole world of comic book fanzines--my life would have been completely different and not near as much fun! Thank you, Jerry! Gene Kehoe ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Nov 26 18:46:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5281 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2006 02:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Nov 2006 02:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.164) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2006 02:38:02 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n6.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2006 02:37:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2006 02:37:39 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2006 02:37:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:37:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.164 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.196.141.35 From: "lance boucher" Subject: Dave Cockrum R.I.P. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=u0icg4Hq3OSiHwlstVHyekVCymdeH_ht2g4yX3tOtxA3AqCeJI0b0vkQ X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Got another e-mail from Ed Savage: Guys,=20 =20 I guess this is just my weekend to pass on sad news. Don't have anymore info than this at this time:=20 =20 Dave Cockrum has died.=20 =20 Got to meet him once at SDCon. Mike Grell asked me to watch his stuff while he went to a presentation announcing his work on Starlayer. Got to tell him how much I had enjoyed his work starting with stuff in Star Studded Comics, I was in fandom heaven - on on side was Dave Cockrum on the other was Joe Rubenstein, inking away. Great visit with them and Mike. Real cool cause I wasn't a slobbering fanboy but a friend of a friend.=20 =20 Dave was only 5 years older than I - way too young to die. I greatly enjoyed his work over the years.=20 =20 http://www.tcj.com/messboard/viewtopic.php?t=3D839=20 =20 Ed=20 From splitxam@yahoo.com Fri Dec 01 18:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77724 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2006 02:30:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2006 02:30:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2006 02:30:56 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2006 02:27:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2006 02:27:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:27:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: GREAT auctions ending tomorrow (including a copy of The Collector #28) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=soNmt9TuCGt17DbG91OIZvoSkC6VkK2cAMUq9WoAHME0UE4 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam More great lots up this week. This will be the last bunch before=20 Christmas. ! Featured are a set of New Mutants issues that star Cable including=20 his first appearance (both printings) and 9 others between #'s 87=20 and 100; a great set of 8 Superman Prestige comics; a Many Ghosts of=20 Dr. Graves / Charlton set; a Tippy Teen lot (later reprinted by=20 Atlas/Seaboard as Vicki); issues 1 and 3 of Tower's Dynamo series=20 from the 1960's, a copy of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents #3 from 1966 in=20 nice condition; a Herbie lot by A+ Comics; Malibu's Star Trek : Deep=20 Space 9 #'s 1 =96 4; an EXCELLENT issue of the fanzine, The Collector=20 from 1973; some Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back trading cards; as=20 well as, a neat pile of Beanie Characters including some Christmas=20 Toy Story ones=85 ALL THESE AUCTIONS END TOMORROW THOUGH !!! Check them out and Bid=20 Now !!!! Search under the seller ID: rosjim to see them all=85 thanks for looking, Jim From splitxam@yahoo.com Fri Dec 01 19:00:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 16914 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2006 02:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2006 02:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25b.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (209.73.160.75) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2006 02:53:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2006 02:50:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2006 02:50:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:50:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.73.160.75 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: sorry to hear about Cockrum's passing X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=nCwV-QGfPd2zWe_rf4CFXoR1lnCcNmVLdsYpVv5KtcVZCHI X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam I was lucky enough to meet him at a convention in Washington D.C.=20 years ago. He and my father hit it off, so soon after, we went to=20 the Marvel offices in NYC to see Dave again (and met his wife, Paty,=20 who also was at Marvel). We went out for coffee with him, and then=20 went to his house. He showed us his great Blackhawk comic=20 collection and I marvelled at his superb art he had hung around the=20 house (If all you know is his comic work, you don't know the half of=20 it). A few months later he came to a convention we put on in upstate N.Y.=20 (and he brought with him Chris Claremont, Walt Simonson, Louise=20 Jones, and a couple others). It was a great weekend - we got to go=20 out to eat with them, we went to see a movie (the first Conan that=20 had just come out), and had lots of time to just have fun. The=20 convention was a flop because of VERY poor advertising on our part,=20 but it's a time I'll never forget. He was a wonderful man who was friendly to a fault. I haven't seen=20 him in many years, but I'll always treasure my memories of him.=20=20 It is a sad loss for everyone - he will be missed... ~Jim From jameshburns@webtv.net Thu Dec 07 09:21:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96912 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2006 17:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2006 17:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.136) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2006 17:19:57 -0000 Received: from storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 353C822451 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id JAA00266; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:19:45 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRPlW6yw1pzQsuvG6mrUfs4pcEwkQIUGC6a6+K/emCmGpLs4Lghj/7F/qA= Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:19:45 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1546-45784D31-475@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 27 Nov 2006 13:52:33 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Marvel Cable Special X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=REgAvN795Of7nd5GY4UOm3r9RT24Cxq90huA7fNryPu2ZzvVUpwd X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 Does anyone happen to have a copy of the Discovery Channel's MARVEL SUPER HEROES' GUIDE TO NEW YORK CITY? Thanks! Jim From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Thu Jan 11 13:45:32 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70758 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2007 21:45:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2007 21:45:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.116) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2007 21:45:29 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n14.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2007 21:42:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2007 21:42:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2007 21:42:43 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77127 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2007 21:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2007 21:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.190) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2007 21:41:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 91246 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 21:36:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: j1Q7h4UVM1nN1Evr6ImUgJYu9gAptpDcd_uWbPp_q2ZWSz5SZ2TAaCJhCr7Rkn.hanOuTou4X9Ck1vAALgDnAkhvB_.cbaAf6j_2aONvob6iC31ueBTxyi4i9eWtJMMBjhyfwfJcAqQedfTqXvjYwJ55nrgvFhYHAkr2TAIxvlqQWkiastboqh1iR0bXI8oUr0VUrn_X9KRNk9PMieYWT1E7oVvD0Ez5yq5KjvndeA-- Received: from [71.255.62.229] by web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:36:00 PST Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:36:00 -0800 (PST) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <380842.90499.qm@web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.190 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Zorikh Lequidre Subject:OT: Bill Sienkiewicz, Dick Ayers, Rich Buckler, More at FREE! Big Apple Con Jan 19-20! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=keSoXtNN6u_ntjk1Hkq7l4IfURH8Ww0QoNrOISQ__sPvknSDEKUwjqo X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 11 Jan 2007 21:42:42 -0000 Big Apple Convention Announces Free Comic Book Convention with Top Celebrities to Celebrate 10 Years of Fun! Soupy Sales, Joyce Randolph, Melody Anderson, King Kong Bundy and more will be present as Michael Carbonaro, founder of the Big Apple Convention, hosts a special, fan appreciation convention on Friday January 19 from 1-8 PM, and Saturday, January 20 from 10 AM =96 7 PM. The Big Apple Convention is New York=92s longest-running comic book/sci-fi/fantasy/pop culture convention, having grown steadily since its inception in 1996. In appreciation of 10 years of support from the fans, admission will be free! There will over a hundred dealers selling comics and collectibles, and free comics and other giveaways all weekend! This Big Apple Convention will take place in the Penn Plaza Pavilion at 401 7th Ave at the corner of 33rd St., across the street from Madison Square Garden and Penn Station. More information about the convention can be found at the website http://www.bigapplecon.com. The extra-special guests for this convention will include TV celebrity and comedian Soupy Sales, Joyce Randolph (The Honeymooners), Melody Anderson (Flash Gordon), Karen Lynn Gorney (Saturday Night Fever), King Kong Bundy (WWE), David Harris (The Warriors), Cathy St. George (Playboy Playmate), Ron Pallilo (Horshack, Welcome Back Kotter), Kane Hodder (Jason, Friday the 13th series), Tom Morga (Jason, Friday the 13th V; Mike Meyers, Halloween 4; Leatherface, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2), Warrington Gillette (Friday the 13th II), Jack Marks (Friday the 13th 2), Kevin Blair Spirtas (Friday the 13th VII), Conrad Brooks (Plan 9 From Outer Space), Sammy Patrillo (The Brain That Wouldn=92t Die), and Lewis =93Twitchels=94 Centanni and Big Kev of the Opie and Anthony Show. And of course it would not be the Big Apple Convention without special guest comic book artists and writers of the cutting edge and living legends, including Bill Sienkiewicz, Dick Ayers, Rich Buckler, Arnold Drake, Irwin Hasen, Jim Sallicrup, Danny Fingeroth, Alex Saviuk, Tommy Castillo, Ian & Guy Dorian, Mark Texiera, Buzz, Mark Sparacio, Jamal Igle, Louis Small, Jr., and dozens more! There is a very special schedule of panels and special events planned for the convention, including the spectacular Costume Contest hosted by Captain Zorikh and Jolie Voltaire, as seen on Comedy Central and theNurseryTV.com! For more information and directions, go to the convention=92s website at www.bigapplecon.com. For updates and news about the convention, check out the MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/bigapplenyc, the Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bigapplecon, the MSN group http://groups.msn.com/BigAppleCon, and the Tribe http://tribes.tribe.net/bigapplecon. Captain Zorikh zorikh@juno.com http://www.captainzorikh.com Big Apple Conventions Contact: Brian Schutzer Phone: 201-861-1414 Fax: 201-861-1154 www.bigapplecon.com bigapplecon@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gcadigan@yahoo.com Sat Jan 13 05:53:30 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27577 invoked by uid 7800); 13 Jan 2007 13:53:15 -0000 X-Sender: gcadigan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15410 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2007 12:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2007 12:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.133) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2007 12:53:24 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2007 12:52:25 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2007 12:52:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2007 12:52:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:52:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.133 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.48.201.204 From: "gcadigan" Subject: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=76466034; y=W87eT32kKTE1m7jfTwQnLvT1-9AHk63TJRQMVoB5JdU5XCU X-Yahoo-Profile: gcadigan X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 Jan 2007 13:53:14 -0000 If anyone on this list has a copy of Fantastic Fanzine # 10, or knows=20 where one may be found, could they please email me? I'm interested in=20 reading an interview with Dave Cockrum which appears within as part of=20 my research for an article about him which I am currently writing. Thanks! From Robert@BLBComics.com Sun Jan 14 17:29:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Robert@BLBComics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39373 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2007 01:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2007 01:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.127) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2007 01:25:31 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2007 01:25:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2007 01:25:27 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2007 01:25:27 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:25:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.127 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.48.64.95 From: "Robert Beerbohm" Subject: Re: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252483439; y=jBOl7o3ma_BDRAac24PstWWTrk450FTOZPU7CJZlzYUtrqM5 X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Hi Is this the Corben painted cover issue? I have that kicking around here som= ewhere - twas=20 buying those last few issues from Groth wholesale to resell at shows back t= hen robert beerbohm www.BLBcomics.com --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "gcadigan" wrote: > > If anyone on this list has a copy of Fantastic Fanzine # 10, or knows=20 > where one may be found, could they please email me? I'm interested in=20 > reading an interview with Dave Cockrum which appears within as part of=20 > my research for an article about him which I am currently writing. >=20 > Thanks! > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun Jan 14 17:58:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89661 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2007 01:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2007 01:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2007 01:57:56 -0000 Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id r.cf9.721cc5f (57293) for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:52:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:52:11 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I recall, #10 has a Steranko cover. I also have it but have to dig it out.-- JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From snoopy967@bigpond.com Sun Jan 14 18:35:28 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 66674 invoked by uid 7800); 15 Jan 2007 02:33:13 -0000 X-Sender: snoopy967@bigpond.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44089 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2007 01:40:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2007 01:40:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com) (144.140.92.153) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2007 01:40:32 -0000 Received: from oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com ([124.177.230.223]) by omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070115013440.XXHN1340.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:34:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [124.177.230.223]) by oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070115013436.IJIO5409.oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:34:36 +0000 Message-ID: <45AADA4A.90801@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:05:06 +1030 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com from [124.177.230.223] using ID snoopy967 at Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:34:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 144.140.92.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Daniel Best - ACAB Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197229558; y=vPOJxuSNbCMZdeQ45vWvunUUI2vY435G_m2JkNUqP7znnwc5a2ZuDg X-Yahoo-Profile: danny_acab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 15 Jan 2007 02:33:12 -0000 Nope, Steranko Captain America cover. I have it here. If the original=20 person still needs it then email me off the list and I'll scan the article. Daniel Robert Beerbohm wrote: > > Hi > > Is this the Corben painted cover issue? I have that kicking around=20 > here somewhere - twas > buying those last few issues from Groth wholesale to resell at shows=20 > back then > > robert beerbohm > www.BLBcomics.com > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 > , "gcadigan"=20 > wrote: > > > > If anyone on this list has a copy of Fantastic Fanzine # 10, or knows > > where one may be found, could they please email me? I'm interested in > > reading an interview with Dave Cockrum which appears within as part of > > my research for an article about him which I am currently writing. > > > > Thanks! > > > >=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Mon Jan 15 18:29:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43696 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2007 02:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2007 02:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n5c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.187) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2007 02:25:21 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n5.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:24:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:24:34 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:24:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:24:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.187 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.133.90.169 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Kapow X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=QKS3MwhY7JPwFVtzRNChCCxkCj299llaI2gEc4Wc_h2AOjbiBI7mb1SA X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Has anyone ever heard of Kapow or Chuck Hawk? This was a local fanzine from the Racine Wi area but he seemed to have memberships out of state and sold copies at the old Chicago ComicCon. D From Doc0715@aol.com Mon Jan 15 18:31:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3178 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2007 02:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2007 02:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.54) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2007 02:26:09 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:25:38 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:25:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:25:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.54 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.133.90.169 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Re: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=bHPaUEHB121CQlXVFM9VhICK3mxa0Cm7DAJHVz1LgLAWUVgluLxTTOd2 X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor I ahve a copy I could scan and send it e-mail to you. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "gcadigan" wrote: > > If anyone on this list has a copy of Fantastic Fanzine # 10, or knows=20 > where one may be found, could they please email me? I'm interested in=20 > reading an interview with Dave Cockrum which appears within as part of=20 > my research for an article about him which I am currently writing. >=20 > Thanks! > From Doc0715@aol.com Mon Jan 15 18:32:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48717 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2007 02:27:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2007 02:27:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.31) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2007 02:27:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:26:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2007 02:26:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:26:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.31 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.133.90.169 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Kapow X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=uielwpmH8kYsPtCSWgIiSlbXuQ30iT2vXG9RMi--_lNTdSEyX1IE1Z7D X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Has anyone ever heard of Kapow or Chuck Hawk? This was a local fanzine from the Racine Wi area but he seemed to have memberships out of state and sold copies at the old Chicago ComicCon. D From gcadigan@yahoo.com Tue Jan 16 20:20:29 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 45609 invoked by uid 7800); 17 Jan 2007 04:20:28 -0000 X-Sender: gcadigan@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42446 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2007 04:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m37a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2007 04:15:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.48) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2007 04:15:13 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2007 04:14:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2007 04:14:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:14:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.48.201.110 From: "gcadigan" Subject: Re: Fantastic Fanzine # 10 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=76466034; y=E3vaDTEyRMgJUjiYKcw5q55wgxz9bRKA-YZc8rvopEaoohE X-Yahoo-Profile: gcadigan X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 17 Jan 2007 04:20:28 -0000 As luck would have it, I found a copy for sale online and snatched it=20 up. But thanks to everyone for responding! From sparkmang@hotmail.com Tue Jan 30 14:26:17 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13679 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2007 22:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m40a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2007 22:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.10) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2007 22:26:15 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2007 22:25:49 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2007 22:25:49 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63837 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2007 22:23:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.68) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2007 22:23:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.55) by mta11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2007 22:23:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2007 22:22:25 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2007 22:22:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:22:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.206.131.238 From: "GUY" Subject: Mr. Allen Lucas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=cavx0xrOJznCmYbyqrG98noMdDDzJnoYzfwdH09RqtNs7rnno-6VPkg X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 30 Jan 2007 22:25:49 -0000 Hi I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get in touch with Mr. Allen Lucas, as I would like to interview him for a fanzine I am Working on. Thank you CAPTN'G From ditko37@rogers.com Sat Feb 03 23:10:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14098 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 07:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m40a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 07:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.204) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 07:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 31478 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 07:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.118.141.145?) (ditko37@rogers.com@74.118.141.145 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 07:10:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rd68P.AVM1k_KpgQ7eEwgMIp.vpOeVwSYSnlQUThtUP9FjiZeVCy2oCNbz_xQ68ZQA-- Message-ID: <45C586D0.5070506@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:10:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.225.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: OT: Friedman vs Eisner, and Seth at BestOf MostOf.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=PXWK6E_fjrDKsCU0M7nyHyx3pO7Hsp_icOVC9PETHB2de6R69vTRk9_AY_n6 X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Hi everyone. Cripes this weblog business is draining! Another 2am-plus night, but we're having fun with: http://www.BestOfMostOf.com Thanks for your continued patronage, Blake From TOMPSTEWART@MSN.COM Sun Feb 04 00:47:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41081 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 08:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 08:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com) (65.54.246.104) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 08:46:02 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.61.33]) by bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:45:58 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:45:58 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.244 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 08:45:54 GMT X-Originating-Email: [tompstewart@msn.com] X-Sender: tompstewart@msn.com In-Reply-To: <45C586D0.5070506@rogers.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:45:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2007 08:45:58.0986 (UTC) FILETIME=[E45A9AA0:01C74838] Return-Path: tompstewart@msn.com X-Originating-IP: 65.54.246.104 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "Tom Stewart" Subject: RE: [cbzines] OT: Friedman vs Eisner, and Seth at BestOf MostOf.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=196251741; y=EAwUGkasXbfEK3lPYc8hUjuHt8SqS_nr8ijylZNg3sXcmakno4M X-Yahoo-Profile: tpstewart64 You know, you'll have to get some sleep some time Blakey... Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart >From: Blake Bell >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, >comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [cbzines] OT: Friedman vs Eisner, and Seth at BestOf MostOf.com >Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:10:08 -0500 > >Hi everyone. Cripes this weblog business is draining! Another 2am-plus >night, but we're having fun with: > >http://www.BestOfMostOf.com > >Thanks for your continued patronage, >Blake > From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Feb 04 08:10:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 38545 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 16:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m40a.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2007 16:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 16:10:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 56972 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2007 16:09:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.118.141.145?) (ditko37@rogers.com@74.118.141.145 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2007 16:09:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: m4s.EAkVM1mQHVCHHIr6YN28Xzn_y5ZU8xhlxJOvyCpwismBXHh3ku49_4H6na0mtA-- Message-ID: <45C6053F.5000300@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:09:35 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Blogs as the "fanzines of the 21st century" (Was Re: OT: Friedman vs Eisner, and Seth at BestOf MostOf.com) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=MjlYrBDYkoPn6Iqtw7A4Cqodxqov1N7ufoeCjpoJVKcXezQVZBp26Bc2sWS1 X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Tom! My favourite comics savant! How are you, sir. Wow, it'll be six years in July since I attended my first San Diego Comicon. Ahh, those days, you, me the Cookie-monster, Brett. I remember our man Cooke (and this is in 2001) saying that the next big thing would be to get comics onto cellphones. Not bad. Not bad. And yeah, luckily I'm on a sabbatical from work right now, cause this monster is taking up 4+ hours a day. I guess "blogs" weren't meant to be like producing more than one full-fledged articles on a daily basis. Most of it's researching for the links. Gathering/altering images doesn't help either, not to mention proof-reading, notifications, etc. I'll have to streamline it somehow, but still envision it being daily (gulp!). Interesting how times have changed. At the start of the 1960s, enterprising folks were stapling together fanzines to communicate their love of comics and now, 40 years later, we're doing the same thing on the 'Net. You could certainly refer to blogs as "the fanzine of the 21st century" just daily, rather than monthly. Thanks, Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org Tom Stewart wrote: > You know, you'll have to get some sleep some time Blakey... > > Tom "The Comics Savant" Stewart > > >From: Blake Bell > > >Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > >To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com , > timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com , > >comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [cbzines] OT: Friedman vs Eisner, and Seth at BestOf MostOf.com > >Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:10:08 -0500 > > > >Hi everyone. Cripes this weblog business is draining! Another 2am-plus > >night, but we're having fun with: > > > >http://www.BestOfMostOf.com > > > >Thanks for your continued patronage, > >Blake > > > > From splitxam@yahoo.com Wed Feb 28 20:06:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31141 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.71) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.132) by mta13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:06:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: fanzines on eBay now... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=4-CVXIfNq52duQcJuZaYRKPNG5U9sdDqgEDpkMx4Eu87kVk X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam I've got some nice fanzine auctions up on eBay right now that end on=20 Saturday. They include: *The Golden Age Collector #1 (S.F.C.A. 1971); *Omniverse #'s 1 & 2 (BOTH issues of this excellent Gruenwald=20 publication); and *all the sections for the first 3 Spirit Bags from 1972/73. I've got a group of Michelinie/McFarlane Amazing Spider-Man issues=20 and a group of BA Fantastic Four issues from 1971/73 for auction as=20 well. You can see them all by searching under the seller ID: rosjim Keep an eye on my auctions; more fanzines coming soon=85 thanks for looking and happy hunting, Jim From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Fri Mar 02 10:50:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 58426 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 18:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.72) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Mar 2007 18:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.132) by mta14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 18:06:24 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2007 18:05:48 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2007 18:05:48 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2007 18:05:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:05:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 172.146.29.141 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TBT Online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=JAXudMV6x-ie6R_VOcSNKFHn-yBbWH42tN5_GJRt8GY8Hw X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TBT website has been updated and features new zines featuring the work of George McVey, Andy Cooke, Ollie Drac, Jim Thompson and more! Check out the fun at: http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/index.html We now have a new FULL COLOR webcomic available as well! Click here to read it: http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/webcomic1.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nova64@mchsi.com Sat Mar 03 07:37:03 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55782 invoked by uid 7800); 3 Mar 2007 15:37:03 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43857 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2007 14:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2007 14:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.170) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2007 14:26:57 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n8.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2007 14:26:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2007 14:26:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2007 14:26:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:26:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.170 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 12.206.227.81 From: "Doug" Subject: Rocket Boosters - a new Nova fanzine is now available!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796; y=VoeU6CyRrCmZUdYrQJypa7Rrl8m5r6NC6-fLXQweTjN2SGdIWHRlAcqM X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 3 Mar 2007 15:37:03 -0000 Hi, everyone! I'm happy to announce that the Rocket Boosters fanzine is finished and=20 available for download on my Nova site! For more info and to download it for free, please go to: http://www.novaprimepage.com/fanzine.htm NOTE!!! This file is extremely large (45MB) due to the nature of the=20 graphics and book length (67 pages including the cover). I hope you enjoy it! Doug From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sat Mar 03 20:47:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 98551 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2007 04:47:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2007 04:47:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.236) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2007 04:47:31 -0000 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1280829wxd for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:45:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=g0jKj880mjS4PrMBh8ZixMsFkcwArN8GIhfCNWLiUg6poJF1omM+Hf1t7ENtvA9YsKaOyEnSYORhMOh6mQVZGAGZJUaOsA6HdC1RmTNAWSkm/y3kzx+9ZWg+1k57qM/9N3J3ZIEzrngkSRqiGpreAHUnC5TCnthfXhzmlGTx5H0= Received: by 10.114.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr813874wac.1172983526710; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.19 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:45:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a0703032045k33333ed3ud95abf688027cc3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:45:26 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 66.249.82.236 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "Ric Croxton" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket Boosters - a new Nova fanzine is now available!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=IFQ46vLnlcqeltH4BPkXaOl_hOoQTrG3nLKph2ZbZxU1-h2VgQ X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks very nice, I wish I had enough ink to print right now. Ric On 3/3/07, Doug wrote: > > Hi, everyone! > > I'm happy to announce that the Rocket Boosters fanzine is finished and > available for download on my Nova site! > > For more info and to download it for free, please go to: > > http://www.novaprimepage.com/fanzine.htm > > NOTE!!! This file is extremely large (45MB) due to the nature of the > graphics and book length (67 pages including the cover). > > I hope you enjoy it! > > Doug > >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From splitxam@yahoo.com Fri Mar 09 06:53:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: splitxam@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 93125 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 14:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2007 14:53:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.133) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 14:53:08 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 14:52:23 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 14:52:23 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 14:52:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:52:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.133 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.203.174.164 From: "Jim" Subject: MORE nice FANZINE auctions and others up now... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=133500082; y=qrH_uQbnaNy2QRBi-G3dIVaTV3CRftxrFkkymEKxt2DRbY4 X-Yahoo-Profile: splitxam Got some cool auctions ending this weekend. Search under seller ID: rosjim to see them all; you won't be disappointed... ~Jim From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sun Mar 25 17:03:04 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81082 invoked by uid 7800); 26 Mar 2007 00:03:04 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 38664 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2007 19:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2007 19:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.244) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2007 19:57:25 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n19.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2007 19:57:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2007 19:57:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:57:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.244 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.206.131.238 From: "GUY" Subject: EXCITER COMICS FUNZINE READY 4 SELL X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=uyZ7NF9hQtpegvvca_R2EKpzr4369h2V62iSrZheGQajp7t4naFxyIY X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 26 Mar 2007 00:03:04 -0000 Hi I just wanted to let ever one know that i have a new fanzine for=20 sell and you can check it out at this gruop=20 http://groups.msn.com/EXCITERCOMICSFANZINES/yourwebpage.msnw thank you Guy From CArchivist@aol.com Fri Apr 06 19:26:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77598 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2007 02:26:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2007 02:26:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2007 02:26:50 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r8.1.) id 6.be2.fdef7e9 (32913); Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:25:32 EDT To: cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org, Grandcomicsdata@yahoogroups.com, cdbl@lists.comics.org, APA-I@yahoogroups.com, comix-scholars@clas.ufl.edu, ComicBacks@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, PlatinumAgeComics@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, timely-atlas@yahoogroups.com, Timely-Atlas-Comics@yahoogroups.com, HamesWare@aol.com, jim@bpib.com, Robert@blbcomics.com, globalvillage@lists.comics.org, rc.harvey@sbcglobal.net, richardh@sigltd.demon.co.uk, thejerries@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 310 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: CArchivist@aol.com Subject: Celebration of Jerry's Life is ON! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=G2umVRCdcE4JAWMi0uJKxEudAOgD3Nw-bwwpaUQkX3PWStUSzQ X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A note from Jean Bails... As always, apologies for Cross-Posting. Motor City Comic-Con web site is: http://www.motorcityconventions.com/motor_city_comic_con/ > Hi, >=20 > Just a short note to let you know that the Celebration of Jerry Bails' Li= fe=20 > is on for the Motor City Convention for Sat. afternoon (time to be announ= ced=20 > later) Sat. May 19th.=A0 This takes place in Novi, Michigan which is west= north=20 > west of Detroit off I-696.=A0 There is a website and I don't have the URL= but=20 > google.com probably lists it. >=20 > Oh boy!=A0 Now I have to get busy on a short presentation and on burning = disc=20 > photos to display before the question and answer segment.=A0 >=20 > Bestest, > Jean Bails >=20 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Thu Apr 19 00:57:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47609 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2007 07:56:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.72) by m39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Apr 2007 07:56:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.225) by mta14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2007 07:56:02 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n25.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2007 07:53:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2007 07:53:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2007 07:53:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:53:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.225 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.242.128.115 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: New TBT webcomic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=X4cVFQKWtmOFxbCDOlSWxOIOZ7PjDoGdbieISjrHwCvMcQ X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/webcomic1.html to check out the fuirst TBT comic produced entirly as a webcomic. It features an homage to a character created by Bob Kane and the work of Bill Finger (with a bit of parody thown in). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Thu May 17 21:53:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49188 invoked from network); 18 May 2007 04:53:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.70) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 May 2007 04:53:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2007 04:53:28 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id r.d08.10ab6a12 (48600); Fri, 18 May 2007 00:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:53:04 EDT To: APA-I@yahoogroups.com, canadiancomics@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, ComicBacks@yahoogroups.com, cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org, cdbl@lists.comics.org, Grandcomicsdata@yahoogroups.com, globalvillage@lists.comics.org, PlatinumAgeComics@yahoogroups.com, SilverAge_GoldenAge@yahoogroups.com, Timely-Atlas-Comics@yahoogroups.com, HamesWare@aol.com, SwimBails@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 310 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 From: CArchivist@aol.com Subject: Jery Bails' Tribute at the Motor City Comic Con Saturday May 19th X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=nI3c2IVzpsthYYK-Jh1y8CHK4YMmMehKLsaF749JK3X_4ISoRQ X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies for the cross-posting. I have the details on the panel which will serve as a tribute to Jerry Bails. Motor City Comic Con (see website for directions) http://www.motorcityconventions.com/motor_city_comic_con/index.html Saturday 19th 4:15p.m. - Speaker Room 3: The Life of Jerry Bails Comic conventions were first brought to life by the late great Jerry Bails in 1964 right here in Detroit. Join his wife Jean Bails and fellow collector Ray Bottorff as they talk about his life and love of comics and fandom. If any of you happen to be in the area, and will attend the convention, I hope to see you there. Looks like it will be the last panel of the night. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Sat May 19 17:37:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: CArchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48292 invoked from network); 20 May 2007 00:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.71) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2007 00:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m19.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.11) by mta13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2007 00:37:13 -0000 Received: from CArchivist@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id r.ce6.fce4803 (58808); Sat, 19 May 2007 20:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:36:31 EDT To: APA-I@yahoogroups.com, SwimBails@aol.com, Robert@blbcomics.com, ComicBacks@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org, cdbl@lists.comics.org, Grandcomicsdata@yahoogroups.com, globalvillage@lists.comics.org, thejerries@yahoogroups.com, WSchelly@aol.com, Timely-Atlas-Comics@yahoogroups.com, HamesWare@aol.com, roydann@ntinet.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 310 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.11 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: CArchivist@aol.com Subject: Quasi-Motor City Comic-Con and Jerry Bails' Panel Report X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=q4H9rIrqicqer-Y9yok_SoO6wt8dz2zlLM6XRsgjbHaiAyuzYQ X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I say quasi only because I was only there for a couple hours today, primarily for Jerry's panel... From my I can gather, the economy and gas prices must have taken people for a hit, because there were clearly less vendors, fans, and star guests in the years past. Especially a shockingly low number of classic comic book guests this year according to the programing notes. This would help explain the lack of pro attendees for the Jerry Bails' panel. Big time negative, someone neglected to get to the room the projector that was promised by convention organizers so Jean could show the slides she had scanned from some pictures she had found. Jean mentioned that she will make sure it gets out to comic book fandom, probably online in some fashion. A lot of early pictures of Jerry and early comic con type events. The panel itself was small, Just Jean, her son Kirk, and I formed the panel. The crowd was small too, but it was helped by the fact there were people who came to the convention just to share their memories. So we had an enthusiatic audience who kept us engaged. Amongst the crowd included Brent Frankenhoff from the Comics Buyer's Guide (CBG). Matt Feazell, local creator and king of the mini-comics movement. Mike Toohey, who as a young fan was there helping Jerry with those early Alter-Egos. Dennis Summers, early comic fan who remembered buying his first Golden Age comic book from Jerry during the 1970 Triple Fan Fair. Along with Toohey, fellow long time comic fan and also member of the Alley Tally get together (and along with Jerry, long-time member of Apa-I) Gerry Sorek. And representing the good members and friends of Jerry from the Grand Comic-Book Database (GCD), esteemed editor, Greg Fischer. It was really nice for me especially to be able to put a face with the names of Gerry and Greg after all of this time. Jean, Kirk, and I (along with members of the audience) related various stories, including all the projects he was involved with, how he loved interacting with young members of comic fandom and encouraged them in their endeavors, how Jerry got in contact with Gardner Fox and later Roy Thomas which led to Alter-Ego. How Jerry was always the professor in his life, learning new things, teaching others. We talked about why he was like that and how it came to be from his upbringing. It was sort of a little bit of everything about Jerry and Jean and the rest of the family too. Afterwards several of the members stopped by to talk to us and personally introduced themselves and the conversation, as it is known to happen, spilled over into the hall afterwards. Yes, the turn out was small, but I found myself rather caught up in the moment that I forgot to take the pictures I wanted to! Ah well. Another amazing thing, the people who were there represented every aspect of Jerry's life as a comic book fan. There were folks who remember his pioneering days of the 60s, dealer days of the 70s, indexing and microfilming days of the 80s, and online days of the 90s onwards. A terrific cross-section of fans. A couple of quick announcements by Jean from the panel. All papers of historic importance, especially related to Jerry's work on the Who's Who, will go to a library or an archive for use by historians and scholars. The three possible locations will be Ohio State, Bowling Green, and Michigan State, with current leaning towards MSU. Specifics to be determined at a later date. All pages of Justice Society original art and loose issues of All-Star Comics, will start to be sold at Bob Beerbohm's Comic Art table at the San Diego Comic Con. Bob has been posting scans and a discussion thread over at the Comics Guarantee Corporaton (CGC) website, which can be visited here: http://boards.collectors-society.com I want to publically thank Jean and Kirk for allowing me an opportunity to express my memories of Jerry. I hoped I limited the "gushing" too much, I can go on and on if given a chance. I had a great time and I think the panel went really well. To Jerry, I will always miss you. my best -Ray Bottorff Jr ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From detroitmik@aol.com Sun May 20 05:30:02 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6525 invoked by uid 7800); 20 May 2007 12:29:10 -0000 X-Sender: Detroitmik@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81949 invoked from network); 20 May 2007 03:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2007 03:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m26.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.7) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2007 03:50:45 -0000 Received: from Detroitmik@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id r.c73.13d6fddf (52641) for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-R10 (fwm-r10.webmail.aol.com [152.163.211.138]) by cia-d15.mx.aol.com (v115.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAD151-cda1464fc4ff139; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:48:15 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:48:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 25698 Received: from 68.41.24.92 by FWM-R10.sysops.aol.com (152.163.211.138) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 May 2007 23:48:15 -0400 Message-Id: <8C968A8D4D8E258-1A94-70F6@FWM-R10.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.138 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: detroitmik@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Quasi-Motor City Comic-Con and Jerry Bails' Panel Report X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59123785; y=Hy1oCxlzZL7Cgxpsu_LjB9i6uirRvxqKZuNZnGzDRe4D1CNRt_Y6aVV9 X-Yahoo-Profile: detroitmike1967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 20 May 2007 12:29:10 -0000 Ray, I took a couple of photos and put them up on the boards. Mike Benson http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1803927&Main=1799802#Post1803927 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Sun May 20 05:30:19 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 78933 invoked by uid 7800); 20 May 2007 12:29:31 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32442 invoked from network); 20 May 2007 08:49:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2007 08:49:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.190) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2007 08:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 42165 invoked by uid 60001); 20 May 2007 08:48:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Ponw2jEVM1ltE2ZpZ.CPrb0qs6r_LAGvlOPHxYM8fId_VDHkVg7ehaXKQilTyzxSRyBKksK189fTm0jzmXWA6qLcMWQePNh3_rvWIbZEHhHR_rrb5GAKeREZ_XN7_A-- Received: from [71.246.126.87] by web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2007 01:48:59 PDT Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 01:48:59 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <272940.41648.qm@web36313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.190 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: Zorikh Lequidre Subject: Big Apple convention announces new guests for June 23-24 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=xeCTkaqn_8mKMu6XOOCURPErKWb99BHnb4mm_4f5N3sUlyRqxhGrNGY X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 20 May 2007 12:29:31 -0000 The Big Apple Convention Summer Sizzler, June 23-24 at the Penn Plaza Pavil= ion, New York City is heating up. 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Win a $1000 shopping spreee! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=QukzPGM5sk-a4Sp3EYZTkLJorkT4GhhPW6KalDLQBhCH7E3Shyi6G7k X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 8 Jun 2007 02:58:00 -0000 Big Apple Convention Brings Stars of Movies, TV, Comics, Boxing, Wrestling,= and Rock & Roll to NYC June 23-24! =20=20=20 The Big Apple Convention, New York=92s longest-running comic book/science= -fiction/fantasy/pop culture convention, returns on June 23-24 to the Penn = Plaza Pavilion, 401 7th Ave at 33rd St. in New York City. 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Click here http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/index.html?1172295528897 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From comicbooksurvey1313@yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 06:36:59 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70676 invoked by uid 7800); 18 Jul 2007 13:36:58 -0000 X-Sender: comicbooksurvey1313@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26365 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2007 05:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2007 05:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.214) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2007 05:02:18 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n24.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2007 05:01:19 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2007 05:01:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:01:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.214 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 216.175.87.32 From: "comicbooksurvey1313" Subject: Comic Book Survey - Would Love Your Input! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=315185690; y=yxOqw6Yd_fR8x-IvW6Ki2gXu7paDWBedmfZXuDOhU3IZ_F_EefjLzQCLt7Z7OA X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbooksurvey1313 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 18 Jul 2007 13:36:58 -0000 I am conducting a comic book survey and was hoping that you could take about 10 minutes to fill it out. To sweeten the deal, after you answer all the questions you will be automatically entered into a drawing for a chance to WIN PRIZES! Click on the link below to access the survey. http://www.comicbooksurvey.com/=20 X-Men Forever!!! From errelbe@yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 11:20:17 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58804 invoked by uid 7800); 18 Jul 2007 18:20:16 -0000 X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 45448 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2007 17:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2007 17:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.110) by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2007 17:50:37 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n12.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2007 17:50:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2007 17:50:30 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2007 17:50:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:50:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.110 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: greetings form an Argentinian fanzine fan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=T7gwwLqsw40WLxeK7iPu5MjHAAiMQSkWclwfxFJkIh3jkQ X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 18 Jul 2007 18:20:16 -0000 HI: Just found this forum and i am very interesed on the comic fanzine=20 scene.=20 I am form Argentina, who had and still has a big comic fanzine scene=20 from the 70's to now... I have amassed a big colleciton of fanzines=20 form argneitna and other ocuntries and i am interesed in share them=20 with people interesed on them. And the best way is (at least ot me)=20 the digital copies. So I am scanning my colection and I am trying to=20 get info on other fanzine lovers of the world. Also i am interesed on info on fanzines . I read whatever i can putr=20 my hands off about the theme but it is always not enough. So here i=20 am trying to share info on the story of comic fanzine scene of the=20 world . Also i would like to share my digital copies of argie=20 fanzines (or from other countries that i also got some) with you.=20 I'd like to get also digital copies of fanzines from other countries. well that=B4s it. If somebody is interesed, please answer me in this=20 forum or to my mail. see you Roberto Barreiro http://elefantes_rosas.blogia.com From ariesx41483@yahoo.com Thu Aug 02 14:59:31 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37559 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2007 21:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.70) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2007 21:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.124) by mta12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2007 21:59:31 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 21:57:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 21:57:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 21:57:17 -0000 X-Sender: ariesx41483@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15117 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2007 20:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2007 20:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.246) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2007 20:38:52 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n28.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 20:33:17 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 20:33:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2007 20:33:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:33:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.244.120.217 From: "ariesx41483" Subject:OT: DEBUT NOVEL HEAVEN'S REMORSE: INTERNAL GENOCIDE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125817852; y=5fmBIGBabpgp7Ct_0iF721qSRTdPrW0qzzqE1PwF6zf8CCUMEK4 X-Yahoo-Profile: ariesx41483 X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 02 Aug 2007 21:57:16 -0000 Seven lives, seven deaths. Seven martyrs he will be. For the first quarter century of breaths in the seventh incarnation, he will know nothing of his true calling. He will be led to slay his enemies with valor, tempted to bleed them with hidden malice. The past must be brought to the present, the future set in diamond for the Harlem Aries and the Bronx Pisces . . . oil and vinegar, opposites. Lovers. Enemies. "Abomination." To Vatican, the novice mutant sorcerer, it seems that God could care less about the state of the world around him. He who has been known as "walking sin" defends those who would kill for a chance to see the super-powered blood spill from his veins, along with the rest of his clandestine saviors, while being thrown into a number of disastrous situations against his free will. Love thy enemy, indeed. Their most recent mission-saving an adolescent psychic from the clutches of their blaspheming adversaries, the militant Genocide- starts the ignition of a hell-ride that comprises spiteful ex- lovers, demon assassins, a reformed vampire, and far too many secrets. *Interview with the author:* So, seeing as you've managed to put enough eye catching pitches into the book's display, and summed up what's in store, keep in mind that I still haven't read the book. What exactly will myself and other readers expect when they read the first installment of Heaven's Remorse? James Corey: Good question. I'd say=85pain. A lot of emotional pain, anger, and glimpses into the past. I had to foreshadow some of the events to come. It starts when Vatican was a baby, and heads to the present dealing with separate events about Marsen and Arroyo. Like I said, everyone is tied together. So there will be a LOT of perspectives tied in to each other. I tried to make each character as definitive as possible. Other than that, expect a very dark, emotional, dramatic, supernatural storyline placed in a modern setting. And, of course, violence, sex, and blood. Some things that might shock a few people, too. I LOVE crazy drama lol check out Heaven's Remorse: Internal Genocide on barnesandnoble.com, and amazon.com today!!! spread the word!! also www.myspace.com/heavensremorse From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Sep 16 07:53:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 13629 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2007 14:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.72) by m2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2007 14:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.81) by mta14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2007 14:53:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 25805 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2007 14:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?74.120.210.204?) (ditko37@rogers.com@74.120.210.204 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2007 14:52:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: KrcsGLgVM1lulP.GZHJQwtJ7YscYHZ0GsKUD0v1JTx6utRMqaai0.4VO9jndASHaJA-- Message-ID: <46ED4334.1040002@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:52:36 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicart-l@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, bigtrash@yahoogroups.com, Doctor_Who@yahoogroups.com, genecolan@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.81 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: OT: Real-time blog of Steve Ditko documentary today at 4pm EST! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=N1JHey2_ifwvN34CR-EOTj1vk2Fn8fAfchJCbzaVsrI8P_om5bkM4mpcVH00 X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 There's been lots of speculation about the contents of U.K. radio and television personality Jonathan Ross's "In Search of Steve Ditko" documentary, but the suspense ends today at 4pm EST! At BestOfMostOf.com, we'll be real-time blogging the documentary as it plays on BBC4 tonight in the U.K. (runs there from 9pm-10pm, repeated at 12:50am-1:50am, England being five hours ahead of EST), bringing you all the goodies right here... http://www.bestofmostof.com/07sep/index070916a.htm ...so lock yourself in at the above link for 4pm, keep refreshing this page every 60 seconds for more commentary, and you'll be connected world-wide to this U.K.-only broadcast! Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org P.S. - if you're an Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, Mark Millar, Jerry Robinson, John Romita, Stan Lee or Joe Quesada fan, you'll want to stay for the whole show, as (especially the first three gentlemen) they dominate the proceedings! From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Tue Sep 25 16:08:43 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 63653 invoked by uid 7800); 25 Sep 2007 23:08:42 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49653 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2007 18:53:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Sep 2007 18:53:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web36314.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.191) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Sep 2007 18:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 38587 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2007 18:53:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EYt8aCgVM1myyyM5JWoWQA8hpXp.dQvPVb_aCKvi.jbwziF9JWvYRx5HhJOoBWIgBsGg8vaQwSPfRK4scsM7wTfQrciUoVexT.HacxfdYCt_ePa5muMZDVIEyc5vbA-- Received: from [71.246.115.187] by web36314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:53:33 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:53:33 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <674325.38566.qm@web36314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject: Artists announced for Big Apple National Con Nov 16-18 NYC! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=j-GP8TOkytjTj1prWK83aoLge_GZpDkIJ6pAWKMlNyp6ko0LfnasuBQ X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 25 Sep 2007 23:08:42 -0000 Once again, the Big Apple Convention brings many of the greatest names in comic books to New York City for the National Convention, November 16-17-18. The convention wil;l take place at the Penn Plaza Pavilion, 401 7th Ave at 33rd St in Manhattan. The confirmed guests so far include Adam Hughes, Alan Kupperberg, Alan Weiss, Alex Maleev, Alex Saviuk, Andy MacDonald, Anthony Cipriano, Arthur Suydam, Bob Hall, Bob Layton, Bob McLeod, Brian Kong, Dan Reed, Dan Slott, Daniel Best, Danny Fingeroth, Dennis Calero, Dick Ayers, Drew Johnson, Ed Coutts, Elayne Riggs, Ethan Van Sciver, Greig Weich, Herb Trimpe, Irwin Hasen, Ivan Brandon, Jim Calafiore, Karen Carnegie Johnson, Ken Branch, Ken Gale, Kevin Breyfogle, Kim Deitch, Marcus Boas, Mark Bode, Mark Evanier, Mark Sparacio, Mark Texeira, Melvin Ylagan, Mercy Van Vlack, Michael Golden, Michael James, Neal Adams, Norm Breyfogle, Rich Buckler, Robin Riggs, S Clay Wilson, Scott Roberts, Spain Rodriguez, Stuart Sayger, Tim Sale, and Tom Feister. Many more names are sure to be added to this list. There will also be special panel discussions including a Valiant Comics reunion and the newly remastered re-release of HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING. The Big Apple Convention is also proud to present celebrity guests of honor Hayden Panettiere (the cheerleader from "Heroes") and Doug Jones (Silver Surfer form "Fantastic Four," Abe Sapien from "Hellboy," and Pan from "Pan's Labyrinth." who will be available for photos and autographs. There will be over 100 dealers selling all variety of comic books, scifi, fantasy, and hooror related merchandise, and more. There will be special programming and events, a game room with the latest and greatest in roll-playing, board, and collectible card game tournaments and demos, the NY Jedi holding their lightsaber academy, and of course, the famous Captain Zorikh Costume Contest. Advance tickets are $18 per day and $40 for the three-day weekend, and are available through the website at http://www.bigapplecon.com/Advance.htmFor more information go to http://www.bigapplecon@yahoo.com To get all the latest news as well oas pictures, chat, and more, be sure to check out our profiles, groups and tribes: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bigapplecon/ http://www.myspace.com/bigapplenyc http://www.going.com/bigapplecon http://tribes.tribe.net/bigapplecon http://groups.msn.com/BigAppleCon Captain Zorikh thebigapplecon@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scattered_cat@yahoo.com Sat Nov 24 11:21:49 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17460 invoked by uid 7800); 24 Nov 2007 19:21:48 -0000 X-Sender: scattered_cat@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65123 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n13b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.113) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n13.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.113 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.193.34.38 From: "Jason Dube" Subject: Jason Dube's New Releases, New Studio Website, and a Holiday Offer!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=97093190; y=77gWUl32w1lgpZNxAwJwXeK3nl1AdovfKfOUY0HQ-3utqCVNT9nQRA X-Yahoo-Profile: scattered_cat X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 24 Nov 2007 19:21:48 -0000 NEW RELEASES!! =20 **The first issue of "2-FISTED ADVENTURES" is now available!! The=20 covers, and 2 main feature stories drawn by Jason Dube. You can check=20 out and purchase this hefty 52-page volume at Comixpress.com... =20 http://store.comixpress.com/index.php? main_page=3Dproduct_info&products_id=3D1002 =20 **Fans of Hip-Hop, do not miss this hot mix tape! "ST. LAZ VS. JAY=20 Z"!! CD cover drawn by Jason Dube. You can download your copy here... =20 http://datpiff.com/ST-Laz--Jay-Z-DJ-Fade-DJ-Rokz-ST-Laz-vs-Jay-Z- mid8332.html =20 =20 =20 The opening of SCATTERED COMICS STUDIOS new website is about to make=20 its debute launch to the world. Get an early sneak peek by going to... =20 http://www.scatteredcomicsstudios.com =20 A GREAT GIFT FOR THE HOLIDAYS!! Jason Dube is presenting a offer to draw your loved ones as a=20 comicbook character masterpiece!=20 Just send in a photo of who you want drawn, along with any ideas you=20 may have about how you want them drawn. You will get back a original=20 work of art, a full color 11" x 17" print signed, and a copy of the=20 artist's comicbook PANDA DAYS#1. All for the low price of $80.00!!=20 This is a limited offer during the holidays!=20 All finished artwork will be put onto CD Rom In both=20 PC and MAC OS. Will include JPEG, TIFF, and PDF=20 formats of project. Will also send all concept,=20 sketches, and artwork leading up to completion of=20 project.=20 *From the Channel 3 News Spot...=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Db0ApWVTZX_Q Take Care, Jason Dube scattered_cat@yahoo.com http://www.scatteredcomics.com http://www.myspace.com/scatteredcomics http://scatteredcomics.deviantart.com/ http://www.gallerylister.com/Dube.htm http://www.ArtWanted.com/scatteredcomics From greene68@yahoo.com Wed Nov 28 14:27:07 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22055 invoked by uid 7800); 28 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0000 X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57063 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.145) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2007 20:33:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:33:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.23.72.10 From: "Keith Greene" Subject: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=Vnaqv2-XJb62jEBwmkxDZOkvdKcN4nOFOQjA5wEXbNSq3zo X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 28 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0000 Hi Folks, I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I=20 was delighted that there is such a thing. Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and=20 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for=20 many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early=20 days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with=20 whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books.=20 I must admit, that feeling has never left me. I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of=20 comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps=20 like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book=20 artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial=20 duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline:=20 Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of=20 those publications? Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what=20 you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going=20 on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's=20 passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were=20 great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. Take Care, hear? KEITH GREENE From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Nov 28 14:46:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12047 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2007 22:46:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2007 22:46:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta10.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.202) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2007 22:46:43 -0000 X-Received: from IANLAPTOP ([24.165.147.78]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20071128224640.CZSV7495.mta10.adelphia.net@IANLAPTOP> for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:46:40 -0500 To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2b8001c83210$303bcc70$6802a8c0@IANLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgyDRZKmTMM53SQQvWbdNifnjUGEgAAtatg X-Originating-IP: 68.168.78.202 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=qhDiyI2L9B2Cu_Tv6ftlylFSMIrt7ncDCmcQ_DGW7CZSuQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, stop by www.dimestoreproductions.com we have a number of the old guard fanzine guys hanging out.Jim Main? Steve Keeter? Stop on in! Ian Shires P.O. Box 214 Madison, OH 44057 www.dimestoreproductions.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Greene Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:34 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Folks, I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I was delighted that there is such a thing. Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. I must admit, that feeling has never left me. I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of those publications? Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. Take Care, hear? KEITH GREENE [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Wed Nov 28 19:46:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5743 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 03:46:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 03:46:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.60) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 03:46:44 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2007 03:46:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2007 03:46:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:46:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.82.171.196 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=Tfr-Wq5oOhRb7OkGwyo7BrOX-YOXgUsYy_f5YyMx0TNYO0jY0d7_o_1H X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 10:41:52 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 67539 invoked by uid 7800); 29 Nov 2007 18:41:50 -0000 X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 861 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 17:22:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 17:22:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.12) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 17:22:26 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 53625 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2007 17:22:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1ACLEYIVM1kU7oqiEF9QhUju6O0mIzW3CaidToLL X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:22 PST Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:22 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <254473.25967.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.12 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=5LR7KSn8fFQBtMO5SL6zpV-cZhGecB5lucw9Ok2bL4LPsvs X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 29 Nov 2007 18:41:50 -0000 Hi Doc, =20=20=20 Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resourc= e for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. = I'll be a frequent visitor. =20=20=20 Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher= . I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printe= d zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened = to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and inter= acted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie T= hompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zi= nes included Steve Ditko, Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove= with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at = Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - t= he first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts = - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended w= ere Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. =20=20=20 Those were great times... =20=20=20 What inspires you about comic fandom? =20=20=20 Take Care, =20=20=20 KEITH GREENE =20=20 Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! =20 I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Cartomancer@netzero.net Thu Nov 29 11:07:47 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68656 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 19:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.114) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:47 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n13.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:47 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:46 -0000 X-Sender: cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 27833 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 18:53:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 18:53:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail.dca.untd.com) (64.136.47.15) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 18:53:14 -0000 X-Received: from yourc8bh3jaglt (10-180.158.popsite.net [66.19.205.180]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABDW8CU4A3YYES2 for (sender ); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:52:10 -0800 (PDT) Message-ID: <000701c832b8$f33ea780$b4cd1342@yourc8bh3jaglt> To: References: <254473.25967.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:52:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ContentStamp: 36:18:4213153278 X-MAIL-INFO:4c8d0c21bd0c41291d4c1d4c49995891b1fc19e10de97dac7d58ecac7ded452db1 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: XEwTkB0Gb2ylLP24TK+A7tj8j9F8p5VzNttLf7lxEnssYer2R9R88IJwiZcaSLEX X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.42.34|smtpout04.dca.untd.com|smtpout04.dca.untd.com|cartomancer@netzero.net X-Originating-IP: 64.136.47.15 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162; y=-VrwKQdG65QQbbsuFteCcmJVskjfmT6KSsQJ0PPg9YrtCPBpgDk X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 29 Nov 2007 19:07:46 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko ETC What did Ditko contribute, if I may ask? --Will , Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mclegg@rock.com Thu Nov 29 14:57:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg@rock.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1083 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.67) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.8.90]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id D1432180013C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.232) by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 -0000 X-Received: by ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D63ACA0A4; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:57:54 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:57:54 -0800 X-Received: from [130.65.109.103] by ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com with http for mclegg@rock.com; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:57:54 -0800 X-Originating-Server: ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20071129225754.7D63ACA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> X-Originating-IP: 205.158.62.67 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Mark Clegg" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=316538944; y=cNWtikVONoMXrWaN14jGCYtFwmN-FPn-U_6PA_KefTL_UPBV-II X-Yahoo-Profile: mclegg_2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you remember what time of year the Alley Awards were tallied and given out? --Mark Clegg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert K. Greene" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:22 -0800 (PST) Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko, Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... What inspires you about comic fandom? Take Care, KEITH GREENE Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20 --=20 You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of S= torage! http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 15:45:01 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23074 invoked by uid 7800); 29 Nov 2007 23:44:59 -0000 X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78799 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 23:26:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 23:26:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.22) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 23:26:16 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 96254 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2007 23:26:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6tNCZ0sVM1nFDKER_3_SPN3pOSRVZn2wZ_UBb5BoYKpc9cqj6LVapUgnmIuHBzlCjx_YS7OfGLTRpdwaRufhMImT5j7OMjQoqAPKXJBaqW3MHOOzjALC_Ehudxb724UjpGT8kk5jM5n.fSQ- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:26:16 PST Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:26:16 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <000701c832b8$f33ea780$b4cd1342@yourc8bh3jaglt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <434639.96243.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.22 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=Hs6xpf418fkQ0tJz9yLI38EHfytz8pdMlApKEnSYCh7qkYI X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 29 Nov 2007 23:44:59 -0000 Hi Will, Thanks for your note. Steve Ditko, Don Martin , Dick Giordano, and others were nice enough to do exclusive interviews for my fanzine. Take Care - KEITH Will Murray wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko ETC What did Ditko contribute, if I may ask? --Will , Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 15:45:09 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84069 invoked by uid 7800); 29 Nov 2007 23:45:08 -0000 X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89654 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 23:42:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2007 23:42:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.19) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 23:42:16 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 74878 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2007 23:42:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: gBbTJa4VM1lu4j8TjF6mZ944uaVrglYzGWy_8Wv3jwACUp4A2znQ1uDxyyWjbsabV4S9aR5M47q4Hrpo5JuHhpC.Bp4HX7P7o8k38PnkNL3GNnhSJu0gBZRbnT3pKy7zpEvQ.3j4MRKQ3mA- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:42:13 PST Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:42:13 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20071129225754.7D63ACA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <209429.71280.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.19 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=3uYRnsT0vHHlANcAYISEspoKuD_UnzTZY2THhzVJnsBUPx0 X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 29 Nov 2007 23:45:08 -0000 Hi Mark, =20=20=20 Thanks for your note. I remember the "Alley Tally Party "at Jerry Bails' = home being in March of 1964. I think it was the first organized gathering o= f comic book fans from other cities. =20=20=20 -- KEITH Mark Clegg wrote: Do you remember what time of year the Alley Awards were tallied a= nd given out? --Mark Clegg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert K. Greene" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:22 -0800 (PST) Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko, Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... What inspires you about comic fandom? Take Care, KEITH GREENE Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --=20 You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of S= torage! http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Cartomancer@netzero.net Thu Nov 29 17:59:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41979 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 01:59:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 01:59:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail.dca.untd.com) (64.136.47.15) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 01:59:03 -0000 X-Received: from yourc8bh3jaglt (16-140.158.popsite.net [66.217.144.140]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABDW85T8AR5X7ES for (sender ); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:58:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002701c832f4$7d347ce0$8c90d942@yourc8bh3jaglt> To: References: <434639.96243.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:58:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ContentStamp: 42:21:440266463 X-MAIL-INFO:552ee31ffbe383a7ba3bba3b5abb071e232f0237e70a03d703071bd7032a8f4323 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: XEwTkB0Gb2ylLP24TK+A7tj8j9F8p5VzX1FNEGASmkwKA7grSCsOYw/P1FlWDArK X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.42.32|smtpout02.dca.untd.com|smtpout02.dca.untd.com|cartomancer@netzero.net X-Originating-IP: 64.136.47.15 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Will Murray" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162; y=1CDUa7a1I01cHKwNI7i1oj0NToYLaeegZC9L1wtFLu4VKy8IkQo ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Will, Thanks for your note. Steve Ditko, Don Martin , Dick Giordano, and others were nice enough to do exclusive interviews for my fanzine. Fascinating. I know Steve did one or two back in the day. Is yours accessible anywhere? It would be interesting to compare them. --Will Will Murray wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko ETC What did Ditko contribute, if I may ask? --Will , Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Thu Nov 29 21:24:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78458 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.130) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 05:24:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:24:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <254473.25967.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.82.171.196 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=5vcXe4X8GU5FmRLCwii46bPeDHLgA3HGZLbY7giQZv_2fnkNoOlWXdYc X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Hi Keith, Thanks for the compliment on IF. I love comics and history and fanzines so I am inspired to keep the history of Fandom and Fanzines out there for future generations. I would really like to have articles from you (if you have time) to talk about your experiences with Fandom. Sounds like you would have some terrific stories. Do you have any photos from those times. Any copies of your zines on disc at all? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene" wrote: > > Hi Doc, >=20=20=20=20 > Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. >=20=20=20=20 > Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko, Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. >=20=20=20=20 > Those were great times... >=20=20=20=20 > What inspires you about comic fandom? >=20=20=20=20 > Take Care, >=20=20=20=20 > KEITH GREENE >=20=20=20 >=20 > Lance Boucher wrote: > Hey Keith, > Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! =20 > I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom > Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you > involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. > DOC >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" > wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > > those publications? > > > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > > > Take Care, hear? > > > > KEITH GREENE > > >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 05:29:10 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81359 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n46a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.140) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:10 -0000 X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5674 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 05:02:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 05:02:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.17) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 05:02:28 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 98826 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2007 05:02:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7_9ZUdwVM1mLhKktM.2p6VREEn_GlynIO4sijsON626h7owI6xkwNSbnYKSuXd7iyQ-- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:02:28 PST Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:02:28 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <002701c832f4$7d347ce0$8c90d942@yourc8bh3jaglt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <257475.96478.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.17 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=-qKueM9NweydSzHbRaVBlc2yyBT-Jz6LvpH86kcca7b7hxU X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 30 Nov 2007 13:29:09 -0000 Hi Will, I lost my archives a few years ago. I'm hoping to find copies of some of my zines from other fans. -- KEITH Will Murray wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Will, Thanks for your note. Steve Ditko, Don Martin , Dick Giordano, and others were nice enough to do exclusive interviews for my fanzine. Fascinating. I know Steve did one or two back in the day. Is yours accessible anywhere? It would be interesting to compare them. --Will Will Murray wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Greene To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hi Doc, Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko ETC What did Ditko contribute, if I may ask? --Will , Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. Those were great times... Lance Boucher wrote: Hey Keith, Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publications? > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > Take Care, hear? > > KEITH GREENE > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scott.rowland@gmail.com Fri Nov 30 08:07:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: scott.rowland@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64863 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 16:07:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 16:07:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.243) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 16:07:05 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so491108anc for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:07:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.209.11 with SMTP id h11mr134040ang.1196438823750; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:07:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.90.106.13 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:07:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:07:03 -0800 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.243 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Scott Rowland" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=203268037; y=2_N_dKwQvPl4E25hkxNy7XrqWRYPEVaIEn8e3CYsoflDYnHYf1o X-Yahoo-Profile: scott_rowland_47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for letting me know about your webpage! I came along too late fo= r the golden age of Fandom, but thanks to Bill Schelly's book, and the TwoMorrows renaissance of Alter Ego, I find myself fascinated by old fanzines. I 'm particularly delighted to see scans of the Original Alter Ego. I have noticed some things that should probably be corrected if you have time. In the Bails' Bestest section, the page for Alter Ego 2, page 10 is an incomplete scan. It looks like the lower third of the page didn't get through. I've tried downloading it repeatedly, with the same result. http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE3.29.jpgis missing, as is the thumbnail for it on http://www.inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AlterEgo3.htm for Alter Ego 4, the page 8 link location is "http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE4.081.jpg " but should actually be a link to "http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE4.08.jpg" The page is at the second location, but there's just a 404 error at the first location. The Collector's Guide page at http://www.inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/CollectorsGuide.htmgives a 404 error also. Again, thank you for putting the page together and letting us know about it= . --Scott On Nov 28, 2007 7:46 PM, Lance Boucher wrote: > Hey Keith, > Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! > I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom > Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you > involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. > DOC > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, > "Keith Greene" > > wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > > those publications? > > > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > > > Take Care, hear? > > > > KEITH GREENE > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >=20=20 > --=20 Scott Jack Kirby was a comic book writer and artist and one of the most creative of all of them. Learn more about him at http://kirbymuseum.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pjstef@yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 08:13:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: pjstef@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71406 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 16:13:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 16:13:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web56514.mail.re3.yahoo.com) (66.196.97.43) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 16:13:08 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 98813 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2007 16:13:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XkpwEdIVM1l1jiOGh5oaRB2m6wpsuewgeNSawb0D75C1xWLmZL.XXo_IHyBG20YkHtbFSfRE0t9_WPY5Rm8rAjfdsT4ZwY8AWX6jnX4cTOOdiRBbkOndfWxZJzG5GUJLAr8wWJschlQBXIootaO9nayjtA-- X-Received: from [12.41.204.3] by web56514.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:13:07 PST Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <951919.98531.qm@web56514.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.196.97.43 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Paul Stefanowicz Subject: Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2901536; y=_cl9r02lat6KZgtGk16Sw3qfvbO0YtC94Wji8ahdofhD X-Yahoo-Profile: pjstef Hi Keith, I just figured I'd give you a heads up, I received about 4 sirens both at home and at the office, for virus protection, when I opened your I-F page. It seems somebody has dropped a trojan on your site. Have you possibly been hacked? I'd love to really look at your work further. Regards, Paul ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 11:37:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58369 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 19:37:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 19:37:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.22) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 19:37:34 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 27773 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2007 19:37:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: gutfgu4VM1mfpetfh4sru1T0gzEIE_mhPlncAN4AxBtraY_lVn65yo1LWrawcrIneRB51p_AUEwy2RfqIbCJCvLYr66VRRt9vqIf1oUMR1eLDzN6eGU- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:37:34 PST Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:37:34 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: Doc0715@aol.com In-Reply-To: <951919.98531.qm@web56514.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <269994.27532.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.22 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Trojan Horse Virus Concern X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=DFND0cLaqdu8am5Qv9A2AJ_BRxSfm7lE8bS3a-00rVUPFNg X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, Thanks for the info on the possible "I-F" site virus. However, it's not my site, so I will cc this note, with yours, to the folks who should know about it. KEITH Paul Stefanowicz wrote: Hi Keith, I just figured I'd give you a heads up, I received about 4 sirens both at home and at the office, for virus protection, when I opened your I-F page. It seems somebody has dropped a trojan on your site. Have you possibly been hacked? I'd love to really look at your work further. Regards, Paul __________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 11:38:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4072 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 19:38:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 19:38:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.18) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 19:38:13 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 11759 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2007 19:38:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1UYn1yUVM1k3k33VumFSwKlMEDQcpvnw1GQQ6GdoVSNwjj.o0_w2SxXVVLNtERH7miWreymww4PTsler3a4xGniqa165QIfW_E2OZbl1tkeSPulR3Ok35CimoNrV.xf2QNeUEKCU18rg1w-- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:38:13 PST Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:38:13 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: Doc0715@aol.com In-Reply-To: <951919.98531.qm@web56514.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <170560.10510.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.18 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Trojan Horse Virus Concern X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=p21ax7Uy_BrLAWryCwgUAa2vo8PYrzRxGjVuANO5OGcPBnI X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, Thanks for the info on the possible "I-F" site virus. However, it's not my site, so I will cc this note, with yours, to the folks who should know about it. KEITH Paul Stefanowicz wrote: Hi Keith, I just figured I'd give you a heads up, I received about 4 sirens both at home and at the office, for virus protection, when I opened your I-F page. It seems somebody has dropped a trojan on your site. Have you possibly been hacked? I'd love to really look at your work further. Regards, Paul __________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 11:39:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22781 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2007 19:39:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2007 19:39:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.13) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2007 19:39:56 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 99421 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2007 19:39:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fYJztSoVM1m9vUH0pQwuBtJRoRLkvk8Gux0_bxHpWBkgjeVlNy.kL3N_QGck8q2E4CU5FrbYvuVSXogeOx9F6L6P96Daj1mdShj680.pZAE6CEGltzc- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:39:56 PST Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:39:56 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <281793.98764.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.13 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=giOreFo5ppfX2Zp4xWyTY1MgfLIWSyVAgERRduJzjWUd5xA X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Doc, Sure, I'd be happy to relate some of my experiences with your readers. KEITH Lance Boucher wrote: Hi Keith, Thanks for the compliment on IF. I love comics and history and fanzines so I am inspired to keep the history of Fandom and Fanzines out there for future generations. I would really like to have articles from you (if you have time) to talk about your experiences with Fandom. Sounds like you would have some terrific stories. Do you have any photos from those times. Any copies of your zines on disc at all? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene" wrote: > > Hi Doc, > > Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. > > Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko, Don Martin and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. > > Those were great times... > > What inspires you about comic fandom? > > Take Care, > > KEITH GREENE > > > Lance Boucher wrote: > Hey Keith, > Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! > I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom > Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you > involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. > DOC > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" > wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > > those publications? > > > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > > > Take Care, hear? > > > > KEITH GREENE > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From errelbe@yahoo.com Mon Dec 03 15:59:08 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 50037 invoked by uid 7800); 3 Dec 2007 23:59:07 -0000 X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3574 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n27b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.244) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n27.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2007 23:34:25 -0000 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:34:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.244 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=5ttr4H7Lc8v-76o7_CRhS_wN37EkRMrXLaa_K32o2GXmlQ X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 3 Dec 2007 23:59:07 -0000 Keith: nice to know aobut you. Actually i had lived years ago my own Golden Age of Fandom... but in=20 other country. I am from Argenitna and and i have been interesedin the fanzines=20 since the 80=B4s when i discovered there my first comic fanzines made=20 in my country (a big scene , believe it or not).=20 Of course i started collecting it. One thing wetn to other and i=20 tried to know more about similar scenes. I knew about the USA comic=20 scene via the bill schelly book pricipally. And now , thanks to=20 Internet i find in this group. I am very interesedin to know about those other stuff and i hope=20 that i can be of help if anyone is interesed on know about other=20 zine scenes (apart form argentina i got other zines and som info on=20 other latin american ocuntries -plus Spain -... In Brazil the fazine=20 scene is still enormous!!!) so with this i hope to get in touch with this wonderful workld of=20 fanzines see you roberto barreiro --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene"=20 wrote: > > Hi Folks, >=20 > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I=20 > was delighted that there is such a thing. >=20 > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s=20 and=20 > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for=20 > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early=20 > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with=20 > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic=20 books.=20 > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. >=20 > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of=20 > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps=20 > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book=20 > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial=20 > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. >=20 > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline:=20 > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of=20 > those publications? >=20 > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what=20 > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going=20 > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's=20 > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They=20 were=20 > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. >=20 > Take Care, hear? >=20 > KEITH GREENE > From greene68@yahoo.com Mon Dec 03 17:08:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44348 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 01:08:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 01:08:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.15) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 01:08:15 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 37635 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2007 01:08:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ehmle4kVM1lT0r6XxWAlgikFOcZRW4N34kXabkj83piBRCiUt3QNC41VO5OAzo8shzzTYjAtLzGUTXY_L_2HnJA6jjcTri8TfmSzmcVzxHVmO13d6SZOn39K7rQz_bhZji4fzHZ2l8d8z7g- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:08:15 PST Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <120313.35864.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.15 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=eVNMXXiDncGGg0KL6LsjvOhaG_Z_BRW6ouneh1gGQKFfwR0 X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Roberto, =20=20=20 Thank you for your letter. I am happy to hear that you are involved and i= nterested in comic fanzines. I have been out of touch for many years, so I = am finally renewing my interest in comic fandom. I am not very familiar wit= h the comic book enthusiasts in Latin America, but I am intrigued, and I wo= uld like to learn more. =20=20=20 Are you a fanzine publisher? =20=20=20 I corresponded with Bill Schelley back in the late 1990s, who is doing a = great job of keeping the history of comic fandom in America alive. In fact,= in 1997 Bill organized a reunion of some of the founders of American comic= fandom in Chicago, but unfortunately I was unable to attend. I hope there = will be others. =20=20=20 As a youth I began collecting comic books -- mostly super heroes, sci-fi,= and tales of mystery books, including Atlas & Marvel's pre-Spider-Man days= . As a result, I began drawing comic book characters and writing my own sto= ries. In the early 1960s, when I was about 14 or 15 years old, I learned th= at I couple of guys from my city (South Bend, Indiana) were involved in pub= lishing their own comic fanzines, so I became very interested in getting in= volved. I also learned that there were a few other fans across America doin= g the same, noteably people like Jerry Bails ("Alter Ego"), Roy Thomas, Ron= n Foss, Don and Maggie Thompson, and a few others, so I began corresponding= with them. In 1964 I was invited to attend the first "Alley Awards" Tally = Party at Jerry Bails' home near Detroit, Michigan. I wasn't old enough to d= rive an automobile, so I rode with Ronn Foss (famed fandom artist), Richard= "Grass" Green (another popular fan artist), Bob Butts (publisher of the fa= nzine "Fan To Fan"), and Jim Rossow (publisher of the fanzine "Countdown"). There we met= other regional comic book enthusiasts, some of whom grew up to be professi= onal comic book writers, editors and artists, such as Roy Thomas, who worke= d for Marvel and others, and Don Glut who authored many comic book scripts = and also authored the Star Wars novel, "The Empire Strikes Back." (I still = try to stay in touch with Don) It was an amazing event, and I believe it wa= s the very first organized gathering of comic book fans from other cities, = and it later inspired the popular "Comicons". =20=20=20 More enthusiastic than ever, I starting publishing my own comic fanzines,= most noteably, "Rapport" and "Dateline:Comicdom." It was a fun time and I= am very nostalgic about those days. =20=20=20 I am happy to know that comic fandom continues around the world! =20=20=20 Take Care, KEITH =20=20=20 =20=20 roberto wrote: Keith: nice to know aobut you. Actually i had lived years ago my own Golden Age of Fandom... but in=20 other country. I am from Argenitna and and i have been interesedin the fanzines=20 since the 80=B4s when i discovered there my first comic fanzines made=20 in my country (a big scene , believe it or not).=20 Of course i started collecting it. One thing wetn to other and i=20 tried to know more about similar scenes. I knew about the USA comic=20 scene via the bill schelly book pricipally. And now , thanks to=20 Internet i find in this group. I am very interesedin to know about those other stuff and i hope=20 that i can be of help if anyone is interesed on know about other=20 zine scenes (apart form argentina i got other zines and som info on=20 other latin american ocuntries -plus Spain -... In Brazil the fazine=20 scene is still enormous!!!) so with this i hope to get in touch with this wonderful workld of=20 fanzines see you roberto barreiro --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene"=20 wrote: > > Hi Folks, >=20 > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I=20 > was delighted that there is such a thing. >=20 > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s=20 and=20 > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for=20 > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early=20 > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with=20 > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic=20 books.=20 > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. >=20 > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of=20 > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps=20 > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book=20 > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial=20 > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. >=20 > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline:=20 > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of=20 > those publications? >=20 > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what=20 > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going=20 > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's=20 > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They=20 were=20 > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. >=20 > Take Care, hear? >=20 > KEITH GREENE > =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it= now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Mon Dec 03 18:33:39 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58360 invoked by uid 7800); 4 Dec 2007 02:33:38 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76307 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 02:14:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 02:14:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com) (65.54.246.209) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 02:14:15 -0000 X-Received: from BAY108-W7 ([65.54.162.107]) by bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:14:01 -0800 Message-ID: To: Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:14:01 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <120313.35864.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <120313.35864.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2007 02:14:01.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[55E05040:01C8361B] X-Originating-IP: 65.54.246.209 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: RE: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=JNPr3j-MAPg1aw0c4daFmDa_2--i67E2CwxEM1yydi55_1Hlz_U7dA8 X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 4 Dec 2007 02:33:38 -0000 Hi Keith i published a fanzine early this year and would like to have you e= mail me off group .As i would like to talk to you about your time in comics= fandom. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman=20=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.comFrom: greene68@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 3 D= ec 2007 17:08:15 -0800Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES Hello Roberto,Thank you for your letter. I am happy to hear that you are in= volved and interested in comic fanzines. I have been out of touch for many = years, so I am finally renewing my interest in comic fandom. I am not very = familiar with the comic book enthusiasts in Latin America, but I am intrigu= ed, and I would like to learn more.Are you a fanzine publisher?I correspond= ed with Bill Schelley back in the late 1990s, who is doing a great job of k= eeping the history of comic fandom in America alive. In fact, in 1997 Bill = organized a reunion of some of the founders of American comic fandom in Chi= cago, but unfortunately I was unable to attend. I hope there will be others= .As a youth I began collecting comic books -- mostly super heroes, sci-fi, = and tales of mystery books, including Atlas & Marvel's pre-Spider-Man days.= As a result, I began drawing comic book characters and writing my own stor= ies. In the early 1960s, when I was about 14 or 15 years old, I learned tha= t I couple of guys from my city (South Bend, Indiana) were involved in publ= ishing their own comic fanzines, so I became very interested in getting inv= olved. I also learned that there were a few other fans across America doing= the same, noteably people like Jerry Bails ("Alter Ego"), Roy Thomas, Ronn= Foss, Don and Maggie Thompson, and a few others, so I began corresponding = with them. In 1964 I was invited to attend the first "Alley Awards" Tally P= arty at Jerry Bails' home near Detroit, Michigan. I wasn't old enough to dr= ive an automobile, so I rode with Ronn Foss (famed fandom artist), Richard = "Grass" Green (another popular fan artist), Bob Butts (publisher of the fan= zine "Fan ToFan"), and Jim Rossow (publisher of the fanzine "Countdown"). T= here we met other regional comic book enthusiasts, some of whom grew up to = be professional comic book writers, editors and artists, such as Roy Thomas= , who worked for Marvel and others, and Don Glut who authored many comic bo= ok scripts and also authored the Star Wars novel, "The Empire Strikes Back.= " (I still try to stay in touch with Don) It was an amazing event, and I be= lieve it was the very first organized gathering of comic book fans from oth= er cities, and it later inspired the popular "Comicons".More enthusiastic t= han ever, I starting publishing my own comic fanzines, most noteably, "Rapp= ort" and "Dateline:Comicdom." It was a fun time and I am very nostalgic abo= ut those days.I am happy to know that comic fandom continues around the wor= ld!Take Care, KEITHroberto wrote:Keith:nice to know aob= ut you.Actually i had lived years ago my own Golden Age of Fandom... but in= other country.I am from Argenitna and and i have been interesedin the fanz= ines since the 80=B4s when i discovered there my first comic fanzines made = in my country (a big scene , believe it or not). Of course i started collec= ting it. One thing wetn to other and i tried to know more about similar sce= nes. I knew about the USA comic scene via the bill schelly book pricipally.= And now , thanks to Internet i find in this group.I am very interesedin to= know about those other stuff and i hope that i can be of help if anyone is= interesed on know about other zine scenes (apart form argentina i got othe= r zines and som info on other latin american ocuntries -plus Spain -... In = Brazil the fazine scene is still enormous!!!)so with this i hope to get in = touch with this wonderful workld of fanzinessee youroberto barreiro--- In c= omicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" wrote:>> Hi= Folks,> > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and = I > was delighted that there is such a thing.> > Like many of us comic book= super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > 70s, I've been out of touch wit= h old friends and the industry for > many years. But I still have many, man= y fond memories of the early > days of comic fandom, especially the people = I got to know and with > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respec= t for comic books. > I must admit, that feeling has never left me.> > I dun= no, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > comic fandom= ...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > like "Dateline: Comi= cdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > artists, writers and publi= shers), for which I assumed editorial > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '6= 0s.> > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > Comic= dom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > those publica= tions?> > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what = > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > on. = Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > passings un= til well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > great talents a= nd good friends, and they'll be missed.> > Take Care, hear?> > KEITH GREENE= >---------------------------------Be a better sports nut! Let your teams fo= llow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.[Non-text portions of this message h= ave been removed]=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_1120= 07 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Mon Dec 03 21:24:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57325 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n29b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.250) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n29.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 05:24:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:24:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <281793.98764.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.250 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.82.171.196 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=wJIUgNx63blMWZWDxRnoGNMjV13yOy6WHoZCfWxLhYEHZPlqaNm4eHkD X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Hey Keith, I sent you an alternate link to get on my site. My site doesn't have a virus but some computers (mostly business ones) seem to think it does. But I have never heard anyone being affected. Would really like any stories you would want to share. DOC=20=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene" wrote: > > Hi Doc, >=20=20=20=20 > Sure, I'd be happy to relate some of my experiences with your readers. >=20=20=20=20 > KEITH >=20 > Lance Boucher wrote: > Hi Keith, > Thanks for the compliment on IF. I love comics and history and > fanzines so I am inspired to keep the history of Fandom and Fanzines > out there for future generations. I would really like to have articles > from you (if you have time) to talk about your experiences with > Fandom. Sounds like you would have some terrific stories. > Do you have any photos from those times. Any copies of your zines on > disc at all? > DOC > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene" > wrote: > > > > Hi Doc, > >=20 > > Thanks for your note, and the link to your site. Yours is a great > resource for folks like me who are interested in re-connecting with > comic fandom. I'll be a frequent visitor. > >=20 > > Primarily during the '60s, I was an aspiring artist, writer and > publisher. I was editor & publisher of Dateline: Comicdom and Rapport. > I also printed zines for Jim Rossow (Countdown) and Bob Butts (Fan To > Fan). (I happened to have a better spirit duplicator than they did!) I > collaborated and interacted with Ronn Foss, Grass Green, Steve Perrin, > Roy Thomas, Don & Maggie Thompson, Don Glut, Bill Placek, and many > others. Pro contributors to my zines included Steve Ditko, Don Martin > and Dick Giordano. As a youth, I drove with Ronn, Grass, Rossow, and > Butts to the weekend "Alley Tally Party" at Jerry Bails' (founder of > Alter Ego) home near Detroit in the early '60s - the first meeting for > many of us with other regional comic book enthusiasts - to count votes > for one of the first "Alley Awards." Others who attended were Roy > Thomas, Don Glut, Doug Moench and a few others. > >=20 > > Those were great times... > >=20 > > What inspires you about comic fandom? > >=20 > > Take Care, > >=20 > > KEITH GREENE > >=20 > >=20 > > Lance Boucher wrote: > > Hey Keith, > > Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! =20 > > I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom > > Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you > > involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. > > DOC > >=20 > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Greene" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > > > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > > > > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > > > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > > > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > > > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > > > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > > > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > > > > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > > > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > > > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > > > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > > > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > > > > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > > > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > > > those publications? > > > > > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > > > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > > > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > > > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > > > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > > > > > Take Care, hear? > > > > > > KEITH GREENE > > > > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --------------------------------- > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your > homepage. > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Robert@BLBComics.com Tue Dec 04 07:33:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: robert@blbcomics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73779 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 15:33:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 15:33:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO soindet.nexcess.net) (208.69.121.146) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 15:33:07 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 27787 invoked by uid 108); 4 Dec 2007 15:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (76.84.241.125) by soindet.nexcess.net with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 15:33:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <1196765105.1987.18946.m46@yahoogroups.com> References: <1196765105.1987.18946.m46@yahoogroups.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:33:05 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Originating-IP: 208.69.121.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: CUT & PASTE PLEASE (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252483439; y=HlqwCeS2x6ok3SANuWku0l1qbU2wwgDJnoUzzgzhB6NiIxFt X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CUT & PASTE PLEASE Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 Hello, a plea from a new comer to comics fandom - i only got into this trip back in 1966 when i received my first RBCC which was #45 It is good to see this list active once again. Thanks for jump starting it again, Keith. I have a favor to ask of those posting, which comes up here and there some times namely, can youse'all delete the long post threads when you reply to a post? Many of us are on 40-50 lists, we get the digest version to scroll down on some of the re-posted posts of re-posted posts i have now read at a dozen times if you wish to have your thought pattern read by more than just a few persons, then cut away and delete the bottom portions which have already been posted please Robert Beerbohm www.BLBcomics.com eBay store: BLBcomics [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue Dec 04 10:49:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75803 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 18:49:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 18:49:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m13.mail.aol.com) (64.12.136.172) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 18:49:50 -0000 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bcb.1c2c79a4 (14502) for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:45:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:45:51 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 292 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.136.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20CUT=20&=20PASTE=20PLEASE=A0=20(Re:=20[cbzin?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?es]=20Digest=20Number=20601?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=MFcnP6TkjippUpOvOjyKdZGg5OgitNoRuJpwkYM_Rqw77YdpB0sNnz6Q X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/07 7:33:42 AM, Robert@BLBComics.com writes: > Many of us are on 40-50 lists, we get the digest version to scroll > down on > ----------------------------- i'm on about 110 lists. not trying to play "can you top this" or anything, but Bob has a point. i have a problem with copying and pasting with this Mac, i am new to Macs and don't know how to avoid this: if i just highlight and reply when a link is involved the Mac puts "gobbledygook" into the link. i can copy a link and paste it in no problem but if i highlight a portion of a post and hit reply the value of the link is lost. how does one fix that? --steve c. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Tue Dec 04 11:32:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76142 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 19:32:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 19:32:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.14) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 19:32:36 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 52634 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2007 19:32:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: oEbkHZwVM1krYoudRat2SGZ.ZwPcBu43o6Y._tDcp6U_kkIAUs3cjwcz2TmKHzLk7cTC2JgLrhUYoUVs1v.9rXH6pCoI4vReM7LDFf1LWbAmSmSd3Qg- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:32:32 PST Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:32:32 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <186917.51158.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.14 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: CUT & PASTE PLEASE  (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=KuahmLf2wDc4iYUDSIb5cEHAxYkuqRmqc_n10wFB3bZtMc8 X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm new to this "Groups," too. I assumed that when replying to e-mails, it = went to the specific addressee... =20=20=20 KEITH=20 AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM wrote: =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 In a message dated 12/4/07 7:33:42 AM, Robert@BLBComics.com writes: > Many of us are on 40-50 lists, we get the digest version to scroll > down on >=20 ----------------------------- i'm on about 110 lists. not trying to play "can you top this" or anything, but Bob has a point. i have a problem with copying and pasting with this Mac, i am new to Macs a= nd=20 don't know how to avoid this: if i just highlight and reply when a link is involved the Mac puts=20 "gobbledygook" into the link. i can copy a link and paste it in no problem but if i highlight a portion o= f=20 a post and hit reply the value of the link is lost. how does one fix that? --steve c. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of=20 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=3Daoltop00030000000001= ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue Dec 04 12:15:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60237 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 20:15:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 20:15:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.136.170) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 20:15:27 -0000 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.c9f.1d830c7f (14502) for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:01:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:01:38 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 292 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.136.170 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20CUT=20&=20PASTE=20PLEASE=A0=20(Re:=20[cbzin?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?es]=20Digest=20Number=20601?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=R_W8TB9zmMIzCZcxB7FDNx3RYT5A9-CGYdA9zg9jp3PLZcc3aJuIS44z X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/07 11:38:04 AM, greene68@yahoo.com writes: > I'm new to this "Groups," too. I assumed that when replying to e-mails, it > went to the specific addressee... > ----------------------------- If you hit reply it gos to the group. if you hit reply all you can delete the group name and it will only go to the specific sender you wish to reply to. :o) --steve c. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From errelbe@yahoo.com Tue Dec 04 16:41:29 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35763 invoked by uid 7800); 5 Dec 2007 00:41:28 -0000 X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15104 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.172) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:57:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <120313.35864.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=1vjrtWGDroLD4xsPkQzizbvXVysXySyshCI-pjTps8G7Xg X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 5 Dec 2007 00:41:28 -0000 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene"=20 wrote: > > Hello Roberto, >=20=20=20=20 I am not very familiar with the comic book enthusiasts in Latin=20 America, but I am intrigued, and I would like to learn more. I will try to put some info on this area. IN general , i must say=20 that fanzines were (at least in Argentina) more a thing of the=20 Eighties and Nineties. Now, the e-zine and the blog has ususrped=20 his function (as in many other countries). But in those decades, the=20 fanzine was very important in the development of artist and writers=20 and even editors in the ocmic scene from argentina. If you ant to check some stuff of the argie fanzine scene and/or=20 small press go to http://argenzines.blogspot.com were some guys are=20 starting to digitalize full issues of fanzines from argnetina. There=20 is a little list till now but it is a very recent blog. If=20 interesed, i can translate an article on the history of the=20 argentine comic fanzine for this group... >=20=20=20=20 > Are you a fanzine publisher? I was, publishing a fanzine called Kapop between 1998 and 2001 with=20 a very good artist called Lucas varela and with contributions of=20 guys who were really good, some profesisonals , some amateurs. in=20 this blog there are all the zines to download digitally. Now i only=20 run a blog aobut strange pop culture called Arboles muertos y Mucha=20 tinta (http://elefantes_rosas.blogia.com ) >=20=20=20=20 > I corresponded with Bill Schelley back in the late 1990s, who is=20 doing a great job of keeping the history of comic fandom in America=20 alive.=20 I read the golden age of comic fandom some time ago. I lost the book=20 some years ago (don=B4t borrow books to guys that aren=B4t going to get=20 back to you!!! =3D) Great book. I would love to do some similar for=20 other scenes... Maybe an internaitonal effort. That is why i found this group so interesting. So many of you lived=20 the time and the culture (i see, for example, that bob beerbhom is=20 there. His articlesi n comic book artist were very interesting to=20 read. and will murray too : i read osme pulp articles of him=20 reedited by James van Hise some years ago). This is history in the=20 first person.=3D) =20=20=20 > I am happy to know that comic fandom continues around the world! fandome is alive and well. but living in the Net. Which is not a bad=20 idea... how many of us coudl coomunicate with guys in the other part=20 of the world if not for the net and know for the mutual love of=20 comics that we profess. =20=20=20=20 > Take Care, KEITH >=20=20=20=20 see you=20 roberto=20=20=20 From nova64@mchsi.com Tue Dec 04 16:42:10 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 52103 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n36a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.130) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 X-Sender: nova64@mchsi.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46972 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 16:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 16:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.181) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 16:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 16:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 16:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 16:12:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:12:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.181 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.133.87.226 From: "Doug" Subject: Super Adventures fanzine.... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=101788796; y=jmM1KvtaYsfL6bwKf-lOE-DcK4GC3me0o53u_TjzLmtHKO-XsYwfDBxH X-Yahoo-Profile: krypton_man2001 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 I've recently been rediscovering the greatness of fanzines. My favorite=20 one is Marv Wolfman's Super Adventures fanzine from the 1960's. If anyone has issues #3, #4 and #7 for sale, I'd love to buy them. You=20 can reach me at nova64@mchsi.com I need to get out my copy of Fandom's Finest Comics and read that=20 again. Great book! Earlier this year, I made my first fanzine to celebrate the 30th=20 anniversary of Marvel's character Nova. It was called Rocket Boosters=20 and can be downloaded for free at: http://www.novaprimepage.com/fanzine.htm Have a great day! Doug From errelbe@yahoo.com Tue Dec 04 16:42:13 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 52230 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.244) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n19.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99821 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.252) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n30.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:59:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:59:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.252 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: CUT & PASTE PLEASE (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=tPy6VHEnOPAnTgp64b2Eej17F1m2BwV0oahnv8eKCG6iSw X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:11 -0000 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Robert Beerbohm=20 wrote: > >=20 > I have a favor to ask of those posting, which comes up here and=20 there=20=20 > some times >=20 > namely, can youse'all delete the long post threads when you reply=20 to=20=20 > a post? >=20 i will do my best btw, love your articles in comic book artist some years ago see you roberto From errelbe@yahoo.com Tue Dec 04 16:42:13 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61149 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.213) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:12 -0000 X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95928 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.145) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Dec 2007 21:58:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:58:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=PMdLs9UTt7-XoG_DkTBXkgBfKe8ZQ2fSzogiT4wOi-J9wQ X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, guy sparkman =20 wrote: hi guy and about what is your fanzine? roberto >=20 > Hi Keith i published a fanzine early this year and would like to=20 have you email me off group .As i would like to talk to you about your=20 time in comics fandom. > Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman=20=20 >=20 From r2ns@yahoo.co.uk Tue Dec 04 16:42:14 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17298 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.133) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 X-Sender: r2ns@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43457 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 16:30:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 16:30:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.12.10.215) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 16:30:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 49821 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2007 16:30:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ciyhKbkVM1mJdwjhHaSpSyHtETWyCaQR7s5n33JdwvwuQRYrBXiHpS.xZzllhS731Q-- X-Received: from [161.112.232.22] by web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:30:03 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:30:03 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, John Anderson , John Freeman , john , sfhdominion online publication , Tracy j Spencer , stevetanneruk@hotmail.com, Andrew Swann , Peter Willday , Steve Woodhouse , Chris Young In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2373.48906.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 217.12.10.215 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: A DODD Subject: Re: CUT & PASTE PLEASE (Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=102246096; y=Av-_kWkonk8KgUq3F6YbaU5d9jJDpidvFhKhGaV9lA X-Yahoo-Profile: r2ns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 Dec 2007 00:42:10 -0000 Robert Beerbohm wrote: Subject: CUT & PASTE= PLEASE Re: [cbzines] Digest Number 601 Hello, a plea from a new comer to comics fandom - i only got into=20 this trip back in 1966 when i received my first RBCC which was #45 It is good to see this list active once again. Thanks for jump=20 starting it again, Keith. I have a favor to ask of those posting, which comes up here and there=20 some times namely, can youse'all delete the long post threads when you reply to=20 a post? Many of us are on 40-50 lists, we get the digest version to scroll=20 down on some of the re-posted posts of re-posted posts i have now read at a=20 dozen times if you wish to have your thought pattern read by more than just a few=20 persons, then cut away and delete the bottom portions which have=20 already been posted please Robert Beerbohm www.BLBcomics.com eBay store: BLBcomics [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Wed Dec 05 07:00:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43648 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.147) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2007 15:00:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:00:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.147 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.82.171.196 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: [cbzines] Re: SEARCH FOR OLD FANZINES X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=LfVJIf7Ab7n1GwmaE0_cIvG8NUMlt8azooam9Fg6kxscoWL0cEuOvZVp X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Thanks Scott I will look into that and fix I also have other scans of Jerry's zines even some Capa's and his guidebooks which I hope to have up the beginning of 2008. IF has now been approved nonprofit status so I hope now to do a lot more getting more historical records concerning Fanzines and the folks who participated. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Rowland" wrote: > > Thank you for letting me know about your webpage! I came along too late for > the golden age of Fandom, but thanks to Bill Schelly's book, and the > TwoMorrows renaissance of Alter Ego, I find myself fascinated by old > fanzines. I 'm particularly delighted to see scans of the Original Alter > Ego. >=20 > I have noticed some things that should probably be corrected if you have > time. >=20 > In the Bails' Bestest section, the page for Alter Ego 2, page 10 is an > incomplete scan. It looks like the lower third of the page didn't get > through. I've tried downloading it repeatedly, with the same result. >=20 > http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE3.29.jpgis > missing, as is the thumbnail for it on > http://www.inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AlterEgo3.htm >=20 >=20 > for Alter Ego 4, the page 8 link location is > "http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE4.081.jpg > " but should > actually be a link to > "http://inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/AE4.08.jpg" > The page is at the second location, but there's just a 404 error at the > first location. >=20 > The Collector's Guide page at > http://www.inter-fan.org/history/Bails'Bestest/CollectorsGuide.htmgives > a 404 error also. >=20 > Again, thank you for putting the page together and letting us know about it. >=20 > --Scott >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 28, 2007 7:46 PM, Lance Boucher wrote: >=20 > > Hey Keith, > > Visit my website INTER-FAN PRODUCTIONS INK! > > I have a lot of fanzines from the 60's and 70's scanned in plus a Fandom > > Hall of Fame with bios of Grass Greene, Alan Hanley and others. Were you > > involved with fanzines in an artistic way or juts a fan. > > DOC > > > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, > > "Keith Greene" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > I recently came upon this comic book fanzine "Groups" site, and I > > > was delighted that there is such a thing. > > > > > > Like many of us comic book super hero enthusiasts from the '60s and > > > 70s, I've been out of touch with old friends and the industry for > > > many years. But I still have many, many fond memories of the early > > > days of comic fandom, especially the people I got to know and with > > > whom I shared our mutual love, interest and respect for comic books. > > > I must admit, that feeling has never left me. > > > > > > I dunno, maybe there's some way to resurrect the good ol' days of > > > comic fandom...an alumni publishing effort of some sort, perhaps > > > like "Dateline: Comicdom" (a fanzine/forum for aspiring comic book > > > artists, writers and publishers), for which I assumed editorial > > > duties from Ronn Foss in the mid '60s. > > > > > > Speaking of that zine, I no longer have copies of "Dateline: > > > Comicdom," nor my fanzine, "Rapport." Does anyone have issues of > > > those publications? > > > > > > Anyway, it would be good to hear from of you to catch up on what > > > you've been up to and to get back in the loop on what's been going > > > on. Regretably, I didn't hear about Ronn Foss's and Grass Green's > > > passings until well after the fact, when Don Glut told me. They were > > > great talents and good friends, and they'll be missed. > > > > > > Take Care, hear? > > > > > > KEITH GREENE > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >=20=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Scott >=20 > Jack Kirby was a comic book writer and artist and one of the most creative > of all of them. Learn more about him at http://kirbymuseum.org >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Dec 07 16:11:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38812 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2007 00:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2007 00:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.138) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2007 00:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 78F3A35571 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id FAA27385; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApiHmN+2WCwybFrCHvMFM8Mxx1lgCFF6NN+epa5A5wHPWyZ2+ZniQ0mOb Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:52:32 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1574-47595020-700@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 6 Dec 2007 10:33:26 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: A SUPERMAN Chanukah Surprise X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=lXxfHLRa1w1r9BZtxu89VzyLBtQ17RWU6ykUlS2OdvVasIdTRmTq X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 If you grew up at the right time, the George Reeves SUPERMAN TV series may well have made some kind of innately positive, and charming, mark, on your childhood psyche. There was just something indelibly winning about Reeves' performance, and those of his collaborators, both in front of, and behind the cameras. Kindness, could be a super power. I must have first seen the show during its second or third go-round, in syndication. So I was stunned, a while back, to learn that there may have been a script for a planned 1950s SUPERMAN feature movie, to have been lensed during the series' original heydey. It wasn't a crazy idea--THE LONE RANGER's 1950s television success led to two movies, released during the TV show's run, and the SUPERMAN film was apparently envisioned as a relatively low-budget affair. I guess I was just surprised that no script had ever popped up, in the collectors market, for SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET... But thanks to artist Randy Garrett, and the folks at Jim Nolt's and Lou Koza's THE ADVENTURE CONTINUES website, we can see what this 50's era production, might have been like, in COMIC BOOK form. Garrett also does what no original DC Comics book ever did: He uses the leads of the TV series as his Metropolitan players, and even "casts" frequent guest stars in the supporting roles... And, once again, it's just sort of charming, to see this movie that could have been another wonderful part, of our American childhoods-- Particularly if you read this, with the music the website provides... Happy Holidays! SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET - INTRODUCTION http://www.jimnolt.com/sp-intronm.htm SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET, PAGE ONE http://www.jimnolt.com/splanet1nm.htm Best, Jim Burns (James H. Burns) From Doc0715@aol.com Sat Dec 08 06:38:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87695 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.217) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2007 14:38:58 -0000 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:38:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1574-47595020-700@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.217 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.82.171.196 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Re: A SUPERMAN Chanukah Surprise X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=VNRNNfpNt00ij-V0zUeXMK2teirY8ACd1XYqWrYrr8bNwAZdAu5jQQYX X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor That is a great site and really love that artwork. What does DC say about this?? DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jameshburns@... wrote: > >=20=20 > If you grew up at the right time, the George Reeves SUPERMAN TV series > may well have made some kind of innately positive, and charming, mark, > on your childhood psyche. There was just something indelibly winning > about Reeves' performance, and those of his collaborators, both in front > of, and behind the cameras.=20 >=20 > Kindness, could be a super power.=20 >=20 > I must have first seen the show during its second or third go-round, in > syndication.=20 > So I was stunned, a while back, to learn that there may have been a > script for a planned 1950s SUPERMAN feature movie, to have been lensed > during the series' original heydey. It wasn't a crazy idea--THE LONE > RANGER's 1950s television success led to two movies, released during the > TV show's run, and the SUPERMAN film was apparently envisioned as a > relatively low-budget affair.=20 >=20 > I guess I was just surprised that no script had ever popped up, in the > collectors market, for SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET...=20 >=20 > But thanks to artist Randy Garrett, and the folks at Jim Nolt's and Lou > Koza's THE ADVENTURE CONTINUES website, we can see what this 50's era > production, might have been like, in COMIC BOOK form. Garrett also does > what no original DC Comics book ever did:=20 >=20 > He uses the leads of the TV series as his Metropolitan players, and even > "casts" frequent guest stars in the supporting roles...=20 >=20 > And, once again, it's just sort of charming, to see this movie that > could have been another wonderful part, of our American childhoods--=20 >=20 > Particularly if you read this, with the music the website provides...=20 >=20 > Happy Holidays!=20 >=20 > SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET - INTRODUCTION > http://www.jimnolt.com/sp-intronm.htm >=20 >=20 > SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET, PAGE ONE > http://www.jimnolt.com/splanet1nm.htm=20 >=20 >=20 > Best, Jim Burns (James H. Burns) > From greene68@yahoo.com Sun Dec 09 08:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63174 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 16:39:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Dec 2007 16:39:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.21) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2007 16:38:59 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 71586 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2007 16:38:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0WV1b1IVM1l6AtXD5MPrPyVmvfttVaaPpo.Qt.wtxEnEthS0e3R7vL4jJaD8N6Y7GQ-- X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:38:56 PST Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:38:56 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1574-47595020-700@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <352183.70530.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.21 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] A SUPERMAN Chanukah Surprise X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=Tg7BCzKBRwWsdeF2eh8ljJCaUJplptjKQ2XWkXzKaaexB90 X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee...It never occurred to me that there was a Website dedicated to the old "Adventures of Superman" TV series. What a pleasure it is to see talented fans so passionate about their particular love, interest and memories. The site is quite good, and the comic strip, adapted from the television show, is superb...it captures perfectly the essence of the series and Reeve's "Man-Of-Steel." As a youngster I, too, was captivated by the Superman television show. Reeves and the entire cast were...perfect -- but especially Reeves, who was not only charming, but a fine actor, too. I am happy to learn that the "Adventures of Superman" lives on! KEITH GREENE jameshburns@webtv.net wrote: If you grew up at the right time, the George Reeves SUPERMAN TV series may well have made some kind of innately positive, and charming, mark, on your childhood psyche. There was just something indelibly winning about Reeves' performance, and those of his collaborators, both in front of, and behind the cameras. Kindness, could be a super power. I must have first seen the show during its second or third go-round, in syndication. So I was stunned, a while back, to learn that there may have been a script for a planned 1950s SUPERMAN feature movie, to have been lensed during the series' original heydey. It wasn't a crazy idea--THE LONE RANGER's 1950s television success led to two movies, released during the TV show's run, and the SUPERMAN film was apparently envisioned as a relatively low-budget affair. I guess I was just surprised that no script had ever popped up, in the collectors market, for SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET... But thanks to artist Randy Garrett, and the folks at Jim Nolt's and Lou Koza's THE ADVENTURE CONTINUES website, we can see what this 50's era production, might have been like, in COMIC BOOK form. Garrett also does what no original DC Comics book ever did: He uses the leads of the TV series as his Metropolitan players, and even "casts" frequent guest stars in the supporting roles... And, once again, it's just sort of charming, to see this movie that could have been another wonderful part, of our American childhoods-- Particularly if you read this, with the music the website provides... Happy Holidays! SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET - INTRODUCTION http://www.jimnolt.com/sp-intronm.htm SUPERMAN AND THE SECRET PLANET, PAGE ONE http://www.jimnolt.com/splanet1nm.htm Best, Jim Burns (James H. Burns) --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Sun Dec 09 12:58:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85115 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 20:58:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Dec 2007 20:58:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2007 20:58:56 -0000 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.c14.2b46f6de (65100) for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:58:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:58:40 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 292 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] A SUPERMAN Chanukah Surprise X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=ygYnFAauL5gv7kHv8C-ySOW3PgnbllJIhv2vDPNmnw-GCllMgVDhK9yB X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/9/07 8:39:18 AM, greene68@yahoo.com writes: > Gee...It never occurred to me that there was a Website dedicated to the old > "Adventures of Superman" TV series. What a pleasure it is to see talented > fans so passionate about their particular love, interest and memories. > ------------------------------ I have a small group, TheAdventuresOfGeorgeReeves@yahoogroups.com that can always use new members. I love that Superman strip, I first saw it several months ago. --steve c. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Dec 17 18:43:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58100 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 02:43:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 02:43:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.204) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 02:43:21 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 98469 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 02:43:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 02:43:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: R.FayaUVM1kIpWs24idlhBxjn4hjkzOrDo2C.YF1AfYSBuroriErx0pxMTQYtoDrDQ-- Message-ID: <476733C8.6080603@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:43:20 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.225.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Does Yancy Street Journal #8... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=jjehw2kpSeUvKpR0LWG3FmpWkDEH_vye7peCHW9X_YEX10trNYMjqwZgoYnc X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 ...with the Ditko Dr. Strange cover have a listing inside for the month of publication in 1965 as "May?" Also is it published by /both/ MARTY ARBUNICH & BILL DUBAY? Thanks! Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Dec 17 18:47:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11791 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 02:47:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 02:47:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.82) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 02:47:35 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 48023 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 02:47:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 02:47:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: S_.q4MwVM1l_FN84oAzx5RQDXdB0FLu6OuVyNyivGCMJe_QDClIIlqVzkFmD6l5ZJw-- Message-ID: <476734C6.1030404@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:47:34 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.82 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Scan of Ditko Dr. Strange pin-up from Superheroes Anonymous #2, 4/65? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=Ib6a0Q6g5QyneY5kiet21Q8UMv2TmdHVgVGr6uvuheST4Og3LYIwjzS9SYyx X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Can anyone send me a low-res scan? Thanks. Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org From ditko37@rogers.com Mon Dec 17 19:07:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49514 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 03:07:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 03:07:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.204) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 03:07:32 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 38950 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 03:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 03:07:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CeFk3v0VM1mGE3w8ikaoZUkHuxNqN7B2GzABGys4qcjXiqXLHqS5qXTRAOpDrIYmog-- Message-ID: <47673972.4060403@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:07:30 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.225.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=XkNfTNosVmD0AgNvoJFDgLFDo1_gvZTnjJNwY6iXOXwMJjQPsL5ete9eUW7W X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 http://www.ditko-fever.com/fanzas01.html Who is "a Golden Gate Publication"? Thanks, Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org From frankmotler@btinternet.com Tue Dec 18 04:57:54 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14840 invoked by uid 7800); 18 Dec 2007 12:57:52 -0000 X-Sender: frankmotler@btinternet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55559 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 11:28:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 11:28:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web87013.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (87.248.114.65) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 11:28:51 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 63651 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Dec 2007 11:28:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pSKuoVUVM1lnzrrFQSv7x_RQM1hRCeF4342F30vG9P52c6k1opSZRsnvNlXD78tp9BoWhGpl0CBYfU3YWDktD4cmpYso_5dq1pl.4jwUnJZh.ftt X-Received: from [86.144.43.215] by web87013.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:28:50 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:28:50 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <47673972.4060403@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <555697.63181.qm@web87013.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 87.248.114.65 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Frank Motler Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=112962324; y=3koiCPnL1yy4cenkguerOO9hxO5Odis_CBB2OcxS3AKIrmuHFTa442i94GN_9RhixNxcX0s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 18 Dec 2007 12:57:52 -0000 Blake Bell wrote: http://www.ditko-fever.com/fanzas01.html Who is "a Golden Gate Publication"? Thanks, Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org << Dear Blake, Indicia reads: All Stars number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street, San Francisco, California. Single issues....50c It is undersized too: 5 7/16 by 8 3/8" (137 x 212mm) Ditko cvr, red/black & white. Nothing inside by him. Inside back cover has a plug for Voice Of Comicdom (backissues #2-5, 25c ea.), a related publication. What's the latest on the Ditko book then?? regards, frank m. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Dec 18 07:23:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2868 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 15:23:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 15:23:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 15:23:14 -0000 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bea.2075b65b (65098) for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:22:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:22:35 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All Stars #1 was published by Gary Arlington who was also a notorious rip-off artist. In the late 1960s he advertised that he was going to publish EC reprints only he'd never gotten permission to do so. They were never published and he never returned the money he'd taken in from advance orders through his extensive advertising in fanzines. -- James Van Hise **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From frankmotler@btinternet.com Tue Dec 18 13:13:28 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94197 invoked by uid 7800); 18 Dec 2007 21:13:26 -0000 X-Sender: frankmotler@btinternet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30406 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 15:56:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 15:56:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (87.248.114.55) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 15:56:44 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29399 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Dec 2007 15:56:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: sGoa7esVM1mSD6HvlL4gJE7a6TtUN9gnC_r1vGhfOB777ajm X-Received: from [86.154.92.224] by web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:56:43 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:56:43 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <956219.25079.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 87.248.114.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Frank Motler Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=112962324; y=cpzxb0SHwR564rdPAmz82C5Dfklaa1Us1cW3cFf-QoL-rdvO8-jMp-ADQqwkIyNke5Ydgs0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 18 Dec 2007 21:13:26 -0000 Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: All Stars #1 was published by Gary Arlington who was also a notorious rip-off artist. In the late 1960s he advertised that he was going to publish EC reprints only he'd never gotten permission to do so. They were never published and he never returned the money he'd taken in from advance orders through his extensive advertising in fanzines. -- James Van Hise << 'fraid not, Jim Info as I supplied earlier, pasted below, fyi. Maybe you're thinking of All-Stars #2 instead? regards, frank m. >> Indicia reads: All Stars number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street, San Francisco, California. Single issues....50c It is undersized too: 5 7/16 by 8 3/8" (137 x 212mm) Ditko cvr, red/black & white. Nothing inside by him. Inside back cover has a plug for Voice Of Comicdom (backissues #2-5, 25c ea.), a related publication. << [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Dec 18 13:24:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99199 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 21:24:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 21:24:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 21:23:59 -0000 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.d4d.168cd510 (65098) for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:23:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:23:48 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, frankmotler@btinternet.com writes: Indicia reads: All Stars number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street, San Francisco, California. Single issues....50c That's Gary Arlington. It was never a secret. I even dealt with him regarding this issue around 1971. -- James Van Hise **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From frankmotler@btinternet.com Tue Dec 18 14:36:27 2007 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95384 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n45c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.179) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:26 -0000 X-Sender: frankmotler@btinternet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52086 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 22:27:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 22:27:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (87.248.114.59) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 22:27:53 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 71128 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Dec 2007 22:27:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Eco2B0kVM1lXytb9bOhfNPUVYsZP6H8nhJELm0Fnrc3hwWJrQ.IaPyxlXH5bXPjeNesM04qS5vGQdQpamVV2b4Lukk8wY9k8BGVB6lMpJAZD0PyOExrWsYn35mA- X-Received: from [86.143.165.206] by web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:27:52 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:27:52 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <559425.69867.qm@web87007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 87.248.114.59 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Frank Motler Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=112962324; y=HBPyS1BW6qWx9ITNzbjiyUQfrB4e_rmzlNRcEP0YARwdvz8PmKb_P6gpecaPD2ngLRK54oo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 18 Dec 2007 22:36:24 -0000 Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, frankmotler@btinternet.com writes: Indicia reads: All Stars number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street, San Francisco, California. Single issues....50c << That's Gary Arlington. It was never a secret. I even dealt with him regarding this issue around 1971. -- James Van Hise << Dear James, Thanks for the clarification. regards, frank m. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Tue Jan 01 09:19:57 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61887 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Jan 2008 17:19:56 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13301 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.237) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n25.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:00:58 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.237 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.112.158 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: Old 70's Fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=_INzHBz_m1zn9JDg6Y0xGuSsCiaCScF8Ta-t5qyo0sf30ksfsgFpvyj8 X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Jan 2008 17:19:56 -0000 Was wondering if anyone had, or recalls, a 'silly' little fanzine=20 published in 1971 & 1972 called (of all things) INFORMATIVE ON COMICS.=20 It was a mimeo/stencil zine and the second issue had a Nick Fury cover=20 drawn by John Mozzer and a Steranko checklist/ It was advertised in TBG=20 circa issue 6,7 or 8 maybe (?). Iy was published by Hudom Comics of Apple Creek, OH (two junior high=20 kids). From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Fri Jan 04 07:15:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58154 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.48) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:15:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.165.147.78 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Small Press Idol 2008 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=U2Efs4Nf0zkhW1hkbu3vcqR0ifUq1DYbzLWkk7-9qdig9A X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Well, Happy New Year! It's now 2008=85and that means it's time to start gearing up for Small Press Idol 2008! I'm going about, inviting anyone and everyone, to participate in the greatest show in Indy Comics. Last year, over 100 teams competed for the chance to be published, and dozens of the top projects have been appearing in Mysterious Visions Anthology. 3 of the other top projects have been picked up by 3rd party publishers, and a couple others are also now with the Dimestore Imprint. This year, we're upping the ante. With a very small entry free, we're going to have a CASH PRIZE for the winner, as well as a publishing deal. Sounds interesting? Anyone who is not currently being published by a "name" company, who is not making a living making comics, is eligible. So if you have a webcomic you'd like to rework a bit into a comic=85entering will grab you lots of new eyes on your work. Self published issues haven't been selling great? Kick it up a notch, and see how it stacks up in the spotlight. The Guidelines for this year's contest are here: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/IDOL08/index.htm How long do you have? Well, we officially start posting the first projects the day after the Superbowl (and yes, we already have a few official projects waiting for that day!) and will continue posting them through March 16th. So, plenty of time to get a team together, plan out your project, and take your shot. Register today! Keep your eyes peeled for sponsors for this year's contest. Last year, extra prizes included items from Blue Line Pro, and an online game from Ant-Tropolis Studios. If you are reading this and want to join this year's sponsors, and have your logo appear on the Sponsor list on the main page, as well as other places=85just send us an e-mail to Idol08@dimestoreproductions.com and we'll talk! I'll be happy to answer any questions! Small Press Idol, now in it's 5th year=85pushing the limits once again! From ditko37@rogers.com Sun Jan 06 16:44:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17847 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 00:44:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 00:44:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.207) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 00:44:47 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 86425 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 00:44:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 00:44:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: lc6LZxcVM1lMQsxyf5BUGv_fnFywltb433lphC565OHg6NNLbSCO5wdWu2t0s3f6QQ-- Message-ID: <478175FF.9020607@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:44:47 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditkokirby@yahoogroups.com Cc: cdbl-chat@lists.comics.org, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.225.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Four Color Mag letter on Ditko by Cat Yronwode in #4? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=jewTRIE3MVW58KGYg5wnGNOCV9XuhAMHUEGr0A5alJrfVWMk2bMJwsVG33kB X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Can anyone confirm that Cat Yronwode's letter - in response to Will Murray's Ditko article in Four Color #3 (Jan/Feb '87) - appeared in Four Color #4 (her letter's on page 14 & 17), and can someone give the publication date on the issue (Mar/Apr '87?)? Thanks, Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org From djatf@aol.com Sat Jan 12 07:05:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47531 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 15:05:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 15:05:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m14.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.204) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 15:05:23 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.cf7.263f6f92 (34935) for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:07 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from mblk-d38 (mblk-d38.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.222]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA048-88774788d722198; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:06 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:06 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 70.56.248.151 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33706-STANDARD X-Received: from 70.56.248.151 by mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.222) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:06 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA2343A6849BBC-1658-2F3C@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=He5pe3O8B6lueC3xNxFHYiBAgknUgGv0jQmwfLwE0zr0VVsul9s X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been researching this kind of stuff for the last year in preparation for doing a comic book/strip fanzine index for IT'S A FANZINE,?part one of which is?in IAF #50, which will contain about 14 pages devoted to old fanzines.?As I understand it, Gary Arlington was the head of San Francisco Comic Book Co, basically an underground comix publisher, and he/they published ALL STARS #2 in 1970. On the other hand, ALL STARS #1 was published by Golden Gate Features, which consisted of Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay, Rudi Franke, and Barry Bauman, all of whom lived in the Mission area of SF.?In addition to the one issue of AS, they published such classic fanzines as YANCY STREET JOURNAL, VOICE OF COMICDOM, FANTASY HERO, HEROES HANGOUT, and COMIC CAPER, all in the mid-'60s. Bill Schelly interviewed DuBay and Arbunich in 1994 and that interview is in his COMIC FANDOM READER tpb. Arbunich was asked by Schelly how he got that great Ditko cover (and it is a great cover, indeed!) for ALL STARS #1, and Arbunich responded, "Steve Ditko was someone I was in touch with. We exchanged letters, and he was always happy to help us out." As of 1994 Arbunich still owned the original art for that cover and Schelly used it as the back cover of COMIC FANDOM READER. Hope this info helps. I'm finally back on-line after moving over a year ago and hope to be a presence here in the future. Now back to work on IAF #50, a 72 page blockbuster. ???? Gene Kehoe ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Sat Jan 12 09:02:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61755 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 17:02:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 17:02:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.80) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 17:02:09 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 39626 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 17:02:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 17:02:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: scLt10AVM1kTY5D6LBJyYNc_yNcU5QHgtFYBB8j6VIPrMlTfZNr3e5THPzAHseH5lQ-- Message-ID: <4788F290.4040906@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:02:08 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.80 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Who really published All Stars #1 and #2? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=Iwm0UndoOB20U16H6-FcxFK5eZ9Mm1kGOHt4BjcKux7o8ZZAKDTMt5PzSI1U X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Hi everyone. Just want to clarify that Gary Arlington had NOTHING to do with All Stars #1 (1966 with the Ditko illo.)? It seems we have GOLDEN GATE FEATURES as the publisher of All Stars #1 (with that space dinosaur, male and female figure Ditko illo. in it), and that's Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay, Rudi Franke, and Barry Bauman. Then we have SAN FRANCISCO COMIC BOOK CO. who published All Stars #2 (with a Ditko MR. A illo.) in 1970. Sounds good? Thanks, Blake -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [cbzines] Re: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:06 -0500 From: djatf@aol.com Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com I've been researching this kind of stuff for the last year in preparation for doing a comic book/strip fanzine index for IT'S A FANZINE,?part one of which is?in IAF #50, which will contain about 14 pages devoted to old fanzines.?As I understand it, Gary Arlington was the head of San Francisco Comic Book Co, basically an underground comix publisher, and he/they published ALL STARS #2 in 1970. On the other hand, ALL STARS #1 was published by Golden Gate Features, which consisted of Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay, Rudi Franke, and Barry Bauman, all of whom lived in the Mission area of SF.?In addition to the one issue of AS, they published such classic fanzines as YANCY STREET JOURNAL, VOICE OF COMICDOM, FANTASY HERO, HEROES HANGOUT, and COMIC CAPER, all in the mid-'60s. Bill Schelly interviewed DuBay and Arbunich in 1994 and that interview is in his COMIC FANDOM READER tpb. Arbunich was asked by Schelly how he got that great Ditko cover (and it is a great cover, indeed!) for ALL STARS #1, and Arbunich responded, "Steve Ditko was someone I was in touch with. We exchanged letters, and he was always happy to help us out." As of 1994 Arbunich still owned the original art for that cover and Schelly used it as the back cover of COMIC FANDOM READER. Hope this info helps. I'm finally back on-line after moving over a year ago and hope to be a presence here in the future. Now back to work on IAF #50, a 72 page blockbuster. ???? Gene Kehoe -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:23:48 EST From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, frankmotler@btinternet.com writes: Indicia reads: All Stars number 1 Summer issue 1965. Published by GOLDEN GATE FEATURES INC. 60 Gladys Street, San Francisco, California. Single issues....50c That's Gary Arlington. It was never a secret. I even dealt with him regarding this issue around 1971. -- James Van Hise **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004 ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Blake Bell http://www.BestOfMostOf.com http://www.ditko.comics.org From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 12 09:09:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35647 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 17:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 17:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net) (204.127.131.115) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 17:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from afspc (123.houston-01rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net[12.73.32.123]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2008011217085511100gftpbe>; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:09:01 +0000 Message-ID: <3C8B807AF9C341728ECE5F80F5704CF5@afsPC> To: References: <8CA2343A6849BBC-1658-2F3C@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CA2343A6849BBC-1658-2F3C@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:08:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.131.115 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Anthony F. Smith" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=NGEZ3a1lpdxOJCv4no_1K2JA5As8nflZBVopthSvdYAHG0teSgQ9z3rt X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gene, How about touting your fanzine with info on how to order? The ones I've gotten in the past I've enjoyed a lot! Best, Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: djatf@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? I've been researching this kind of stuff for the last year in preparation for doing a comic book/strip fanzine index for IT'S A FANZINE,?part one of which is?in IAF #50, which will contain about 14 pages devoted to old fanzines.?As I understand it, Gary Arlington was the head of San Francisco Comic Book Co, basically an underground comix publisher, and he/they published ALL STARS #2 in 1970. On the other hand, ALL STARS #1 was published by Golden Gate Features, which consisted of Marty Arbunich, Bill DuBay, Rudi Franke, and Barry Bauman, all of whom lived in the Mission area of SF.?In addition to the one issue of AS, they published such classic fanzines as YANCY STREET JOURNAL, VOICE OF COMICDOM, FANTASY HERO, HEROES HANGOUT, and COMIC CAPER, all in the mid-'60s. Bill Schelly interviewed DuBay and Arbunich in 1994 and that interview is in his COMIC FANDOM READER tpb. Arbunich was asked by Schelly how he got that great Ditko cover (and it is a great cover, indeed!) for ALL STARS #1, and Arbunich responded, "Steve Ditko was someone I was in touch with. We exchanged letters, and he was always happy to help us out." As of 1994 Arbunich still owned the original art for that cover and Schelly used it as the back cover of COMIC FANDOM READER. Hope this info helps. I'm finally back on-line after moving over a year ago and hope to be a presence here in the future. Now back to work on IAF #50, a 72 page blockbuster. ???? Gene Kehoe __________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat Jan 12 09:26:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34748 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 17:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 17:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 17:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.cbb.20467722 (42805) for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:26:42 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who really published All Stars #1 and #2? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/12/2008 9:02:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ditko37@rogers.com writes: <> Apparently Gary Arlington inherited a bunch of them because he was selling them in the early 1970s. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dlarm1951@aol.com Sat Jan 12 09:50:08 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81734 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Jan 2008 17:50:07 -0000 X-Sender: dlarm1951@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58320 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 17:46:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 17:46:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n2c.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.233) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 17:46:38 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n2.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 17:46:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 17:46:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 17:46:37 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:46:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CA2343A6849BBC-1658-2F3C@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.233 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.82.214.112 From: "David Armstrong" Subject: Re: Who was the publisher(s) of All Stars #1? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64684929; y=H4Gln0oELNbKWxVdTvuSB49CfStPmYuomyNEKgQhngPkFzK76bG4X8fs X-Yahoo-Profile: lionsroar2001us X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Jan 2008 17:50:07 -0000 Gene, Thanks for writing this. I looked at the originial thread and=20 saw that the address, 60 Gladys St., was Marty Arbunich's address.=20=20 It's listed in all the Golden Gate publications at the time and many=20 times the reference specifically mentions Marty. It mad me wonder why=20 it was so adamantly stated that Gary Arlington was named as the=20 publisher. By the way, I met Barry Bauman at a convention in Berkeley in the early=20 70s - he had long blond hair, like Thor, by then. I still get a kick=20 out of seeing his earlier crew cut days. Barry passed away in the last=20 few years as a result of an auto accident. Gene, let us know when your book is coming out. David Armstrong=20 From Robert@BLBComics.com Sun Jan 13 12:58:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: robert@blbcomics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48619 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO soindet.nexcess.net) (208.69.121.146) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2008 20:58:00 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 7306 invoked by uid 108); 13 Jan 2008 20:57:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (76.84.241.125) by soindet.nexcess.net with SMTP; 13 Jan 2008 20:57:59 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:57:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Originating-IP: 208.69.121.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Robert Beerbohm Subject: Re: Who really published All Stars #1 and #2? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252483439; y=3g-yXX7hUP1TfcYPZG9Au1IDs8eLnAfdM0YqdOfvL7syatKr X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary did not "inherit" a bunch of all Stars #1 - his comic book store was already open - and much of early comic book fandom began making the trek to his store. I think his ads for ZAP etc in RBCC were the first ones providing the bridge upon which UG Comix formally entered "organized" comics fandom consciousness If one ever visited Gary's locations on 23rd there, especially the Eric Fromm publishing storefront a few doors down from his SAN FRANCISCO COMIC BOOK COMPANY store, one could easily ascertain how & why stuff would get lost - some of his employees were ripping him off blind. I first went there in late 1972 with Bud Plant, on my first trip with him up to The City to pick up UGs from Gary, Last Gasp, Company & Sons, Rip Off - then high tail it over to Print Mint to pick up their better selling titles like ZAP. When Witzend came out, it caused a stir - inspiring Crumb on ZAP, methinks Just for the record, Gene, only Marty A and Bill B lived in San Francisco Rudi was/is San Jose. from what i remember Barry was always Oakland - till he famously gafiated in 1968, i think it was - such a cool long RBCC ad he ran when he sold out his collection. Their Voice of Comicdom "newspaper" carried fandom favorite comic strips plus some of the later UG guys as well I got to know Marty A back on Irving St in San Fran Sunset District back in the 1970s-early 80s. He was down the street managing a record store on that street - the name of that store escapes me at present. he was pretty much out of comics by that point. Barry used to come into my Haight Ashbury store towards closing every so often. We would then go up to THE OTHER CAFE to watch improv comedy - guys like Robin Williams were trying out their new stuff and Barry always seemed to know when such treats would surface. Robert Beerbohm www.BLBcomics.com eBaystore: BLBcomics [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From djatf@aol.com Thu Jan 17 06:31:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90611 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 14:31:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 14:31:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m13.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.101) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 14:31:12 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.d34.1c4d9323 (37061) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:31:03 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MB10 (webmail-mb10.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.158]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB047-90c5478f66a71b8; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:31:03 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:31:02 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 71.32.65.123 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD X-Received: from 71.32.65.123 by WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.158) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:31:02 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA272CB8AA47C5-990-75E@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=V1RbEJKaeI3wXjHfHJ4bwxCGmN7tkIw39S1Cvc25oZ845-_YiEg X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I finish off IT'S A FANZINE #50, which is 72 pages with a color atomic bomb cover (this issue highlights the 1950s) and 14 pages devoted to old fanzines (specifically Herndon's HERO, THE COMIC READER/ON THE DRAWING BOARD, and part one of a comic book/strip fanzine index), anyone who emails me your address I'll send a flyer with the contents, covers, and ordering information for IAF #48 & 49. Most back issues going back to #1 are available in newer, better printed editions. Look forward to hearing from you. ????? Gene Kehoe--editor, IT'S A FANZINE ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Thu Jan 17 08:51:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85761 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 16:51:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 16:51:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 16:51:42 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bed.1a1571cc (37055) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:51:29 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from mblk-d23 (mblk-d23.mblk.aol.com [205.188.149.15]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB041-90bf478f879013c; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:51:28 -0500 References: <8CA272CB8AA47C5-990-75E@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:51:29 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.15.200 In-Reply-To: <8CA272CB8AA47C5-990-75E@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.15.200 by mblk-d23.sysops.aol.com (205.188.149.15) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:51:29 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA2740574D848B-160C-1232@mblk-d23.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=QEd6DhQ0UqqLnrsurG8CpyWzzqLvsnlizWh2bFeMzlEB3g X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gene, I'm really looking forward to ths new issue! I'd love to order a copy! All the best- Jim Main Main Enterprises www.mainenterprises.ecrater.com -----Original Message----- From: djatf@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 9:31 am Subject: [cbzines] Re: IT'S A FANZINE While I finish off IT'S A FANZINE #50, which is 72 pages with a color atomic bomb cover (this issue highlights the 1950s) and 14 pages devoted to old fanzines (specifically Herndon's HERO, THE COMIC READER/ON THE DRAWING BOARD, and part one of a comic book/strip fanzine index), anyone who emails me your address I'll send a flyer with the contents, covers, and ordering information for IAF #48 & 49. Most back issues going back to #1 are available in newer, better printed editions. Look forward to hearing from you. ????? Gene Kehoe--editor, IT'S A FANZINE __________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun Jan 20 13:10:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71522 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2008 21:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2008 21:10:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.187) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 21:10:35 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c24so1470076rvf.16 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.82.38 with SMTP id f38mr4013678rvb.27.1200863429132; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.50.21 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10390f8a0801201310k55bdaf0av7cf47e9aaebe3d76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:10:29 -0600 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CA272CB8AA47C5-990-75E@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8CA272CB8AA47C5-990-75E@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.187 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Ric Croxton" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=aaXtL2kRgZuIcZRKV_xMaiWBYLampbw8YexE_Xal_DTHYncULw X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 How much for #50 and do you take PayPal? Ric On Jan 17, 2008 8:31 AM, wrote: > > > > > While I finish off IT'S A FANZINE #50, which is 72 pages with a color atomic > bomb cover (this issue highlights the 1950s) and 14 pages devoted to old > fanzines (specifically Herndon's HERO, THE COMIC READER/ON THE DRAWING > BOARD, and part one of a comic book/strip fanzine index), anyone who emails > me your address I'll send a flyer with the contents, covers, and ordering > information for IAF #48 & 49. Most back issues going back to #1 are > available in newer, better printed editions. Look forward to hearing from > you. > ????? Gene Kehoe--editor, IT'S A FANZINE > __________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." From djatf@aol.com Mon Jan 21 19:50:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98869 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2008 03:50:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2008 03:50:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2008 03:50:27 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bdc.21f80d0d (37528) for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:23 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MA05 (webmail-ma05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.69]) by cia-mb01.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB011-9298479567ff258; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:23 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:23 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 71.32.65.123 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD X-Received: from 71.32.65.123 by WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.69) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:23 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA2AC10D069DBD-4F8-2208@WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re: IT'S A FANZINE X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=QJCxy7pYxvEuyFe0YSoR48KmxfR5PSHE_RGCw7344JWMQlhwqsE X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IAF #50 is 72 no ad pages for $5 ppd, a deal I'm sure I'll lose my butt on, but I'm used to that. And I certainly do take Paypal, payable to: fangene@aol.com. I certainly appreciate everybody's interest, and I'm certainly having fun researching these old fanzines. ???? Gene Kehoe ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From djatf@aol.com Tue Jan 22 05:16:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43850 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2008 13:16:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2008 13:16:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m13.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.101) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2008 13:16:24 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.cc5.27dac33d (37046) for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:16 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MA01 (webmail-ma01.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.65]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB034-90b64795ec9f305; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:16 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:15 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 71.32.65.123 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD X-Received: from 71.32.65.123 by WEBMAIL-MA01.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.65) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:15 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA2B101A33DCE9-8E4-225E@WEBMAIL-MA01.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re: IT'S A FANZINE and Unpublished Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=7i4fgPzOGCxjW1lcemQwDctXHJ1mOamgla3CEHo4yzzPwjRoP7E X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder that IAF #50 won't be out until this spring. I'm still working away on part one of the comics fanzine index. In regard to that, I've been researching some fanzines that were advertised but never published--Tony Isabella & Klaus Janson's BEWARE THE CREEPER MAGAZINE #1 (which Tony got permission from DC to do after the comic's cancellation; Tony had written a script for a full length story and had Dave Cockrum lined up to do a backup feature, but Janson never got any of the art done and Tony lost interest...Janson later wrote and drew a short Creeper story himself that has appeared in fan circles), Bill DuBay's PICTO ORIGINS #1 from that same Golden Gate Features we've been talking about (I'm sure?DC and Marvel put a stop to this, because it was to include Captain America, Green Arrow, Dr. Fate, Plastic Man, Human Torch, the Flash, and Captain Marvel, along with Blue Bolt, Flash Gordon, and the Phantom--some of?these picto origins?had previously appeared in YANCY STREET JOURNAL and THE COMIC READER), and one I'm not sure was ever published or not--CAPTAIN MARVEL, MAN OF THE KREE from Joe Muscatello--advertised in various Marvel zines of the late '60s but I've never seen a copy reviewed or put up for sale, and I sure don't have one. Does anyone have any knowledge of this one, or any comments on the above or other advertised zines you're sure were never published? In addition, it's tough to nail down what the final issue was of so many fanzines, because half the time there were plans announced and/or ads placed for issues that were never published--for instance, MASQUERADER #7 and Wayne & Sherman Howard's ACTION HERO #8 (and I'm not still not sure about that one). Anyone have any info on this stuff? ???? Thanks, ???? Gene Kehoe ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ditko37@rogers.com Sat Feb 02 07:41:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ditko37@rogers.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82010 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 15:41:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 15:41:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.36.79) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 15:41:40 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 70527 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 15:41:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ?99.250.155.212?) (ditko37@rogers.com@99.250.155.212 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 15:41:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: p4srWxgVM1nih5YDU6hDIcpZ01DFK0ueFrijZ3bF6Ha9e7ZtN_61E1CEC7EnabUbMA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47A48F32.10807@rogers.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:41:38 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 206.190.36.79 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Blake Bell Subject: Ditko fanzine scans needed asap! :) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=154927492; y=iix07Z9yTLdCmyABMBf3NbO_bNy5oQYmmQ8HcVy5_zBKGmDcG5tbeGBwnIQ1 X-Yahoo-Profile: blakebell37 Hi everyone. Need three scans of Ditko-related fanzine material for my book. Superheroes Anonymous #2 (Apr '65) Dr. Strange illo. Sense of Wonder #6 (Dec '68) cover (the pink one!) San Diego Comic Con (1977) illo Please email me for scanning instructions. Contributions will get you named in the Acknowledgments page in the book. Thank you kindly! :) Blake Bell http://www.ditko.comics.org From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 19:23:03 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30294 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Feb 2008 03:23:02 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58805 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n53b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.167) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n53.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 01:47:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:47:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.167 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.33.75 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: INFORMATIVE ON COMICS # 2 Found! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=i6RWslligTlOK6_SeUMFcA5O_3qd6WSbYcTA8mySFIiMRxqB30yOl4rO X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Feb 2008 03:23:02 -0000 In the next day or so I will be receiving a copy of the following=20 fanzine: INFORMATIVE ON COMICS (Magazine/Fanzine; Hudom Comics Pub.; 10 x One-Sided pages, Folded; LOW print Run) #2(May/1972; Nick Fury Agent=20 of SHIELD-c; 3 page List of Jim Steranko's Supergraphics Products) This was a fanzine that a friend and I published in 1971 (# says=20 May '72, but was actually done January '72. Only two issues. We did=20 it on our junior high school duplicator machine. I last saw an issue=20 circa 1977 when a former live-in girlfriend moved and took several of=20 my boxes with her that included the majority of my fanzine=20 collection. Fortunately I was able to find a copy of #2 from a dealer=20 and hopefully can someday find a copy of #1. When it arrives I'll scan the cover (A Nick Fury illo by John A.=20 Mozzer who contributed the Steranko checklist and Supergraphics=20 list.) and post it. I may scan more of it and work something up for=20 my blog (www.myspace.com/doclehman). What can I say? I'm excited to once again see a piece of my youth! From greene68@yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 08:14:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6766 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 16:12:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 16:12:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.19) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 16:12:37 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 90772 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2008 16:12:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mjQRGW4VM1mq_qGysGc4XDKT6YtE4TIg4iln.CfB X-Received: from [76.23.72.10] by web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:12:36 PST Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:12:36 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <975348.67714.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.19 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] INFORMATIVE ON COMICS # 2 Found! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=zK5ISBbbM5-AqcNJwPhiS9eGFcw_2VoZ6ZBa4diU8zybfGM X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congrats on finding your labor of love from your younger days. A similar thing happened to me. I'd like to find copies of my old fanzines, "Rapport" #1, and "Dateline:Comicdom" (several issues) circa 1960s. Keith Greene dirtracersradio wrote: In the next day or so I will be receiving a copy of the following fanzine: INFORMATIVE ON COMICS (Magazine/Fanzine; Hudom Comics Pub.; 10 x One-Sided pages, Folded; LOW print Run) #2(May/1972; Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD-c; 3 page List of Jim Steranko's Supergraphics Products) This was a fanzine that a friend and I published in 1971 (# says May '72, but was actually done January '72. Only two issues. We did it on our junior high school duplicator machine. I last saw an issue circa 1977 when a former live-in girlfriend moved and took several of my boxes with her that included the majority of my fanzine collection. Fortunately I was able to find a copy of #2 from a dealer and hopefully can someday find a copy of #1. When it arrives I'll scan the cover (A Nick Fury illo by John A. Mozzer who contributed the Steranko checklist and Supergraphics list.) and post it. I may scan more of it and work something up for my blog (www.myspace.com/doclehman). What can I say? I'm excited to once again see a piece of my youth! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 09:02:15 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56649 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Feb 2008 17:02:11 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80800 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.132) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:41:52 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <975348.67714.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.33.75 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: Re: INFORMATIVE ON COMICS # 2 Found! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=CXPhlstU3A38AOqPqu8E0qcPnHwcyV6uF_C0wFaWqqZV2NYS_AXSyg7k X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Feb 2008 17:02:11 -0000 Thank you Keith! Dateline:Comicdom sure sounds familiar. Will keep an eye out for both=20 of those! -Doc --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene"=20 wrote: > > Congrats on finding your labor of love from your younger days. A=20 similar thing happened to me. I'd like to find copies of my old=20 fanzines, "Rapport" #1, and "Dateline:Comicdom" (several issues)=20 circa 1960s. >=20=20=20=20 > Keith Greene >=20 > dirtracersradio wrote: > In the next day or so I will be receiving a copy of the=20 following=20 > fanzine: >=20 > INFORMATIVE ON COMICS (Magazine/Fanzine; Hudom Comics Pub.; 10 x > One-Sided pages, Folded; LOW print Run) #2(May/1972; Nick Fury=20 Agent=20 > of SHIELD-c; 3 page List of Jim Steranko's Supergraphics Products) >=20 > This was a fanzine that a friend and I published in 1971 (# says=20 > May '72, but was actually done January '72. Only two issues. We did=20 > it on our junior high school duplicator machine. I last saw an=20 issue=20 > circa 1977 when a former live-in girlfriend moved and took several=20 of=20 > my boxes with her that included the majority of my fanzine=20 > collection. Fortunately I was able to find a copy of #2 from a=20 dealer=20 > and hopefully can someday find a copy of #1. >=20 > When it arrives I'll scan the cover (A Nick Fury illo by John A.=20 > Mozzer who contributed the Steranko checklist and Supergraphics=20 > list.) and post it. I may scan more of it and work something up for=20 > my blog (www.myspace.com/doclehman). >=20 > What can I say? I'm excited to once again see a piece of my youth! >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From errelbe@yahoo.com Wed Feb 13 08:58:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35547 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.146) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2008 16:58:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:58:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: Re: INFORMATIVE ON COMICS # 2 Found! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=ASc8SuabiP2vclyttZloSzZCJ-PQnVTsFZ0-6MCPhyzyqg X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe It is great for you to find that. HOpe you are enjoying that BTW, i always have thought that there must be a concertated effort=20 to put digital copies of fanzines for anyone to get for free. This=20 is a very important part of pop culture of late XXcentury that i=20 believe that must be difunded and I believe digitalize those old=20 fanzines and putting on the net could be interesting to do Any opinions on that? roberto --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "dirtracersradio"=20 wrote: > > In the next day or so I will be receiving a copy of the following=20 > fanzine: >=20 > INFORMATIVE ON COMICS (Magazine/Fanzine; Hudom Comics Pub.; 10 x > One-Sided pages, Folded; LOW print Run) #2(May/1972; Nick Fury=20 Agent=20 > of SHIELD-c; 3 page List of Jim Steranko's Supergraphics Products) >=20 > This was a fanzine that a friend and I published in 1971 (# says=20 > May '72, but was actually done January '72. Only two issues. We=20 did=20 > it on our junior high school duplicator machine. I last saw an=20 issue=20 > circa 1977 when a former live-in girlfriend moved and took several=20 of=20 > my boxes with her that included the majority of my fanzine=20 > collection. Fortunately I was able to find a copy of #2 from a=20 dealer=20 > and hopefully can someday find a copy of #1. >=20 > When it arrives I'll scan the cover (A Nick Fury illo by John A.=20 > Mozzer who contributed the Steranko checklist and Supergraphics=20 > list.) and post it. I may scan more of it and work something up=20 for=20 > my blog (www.myspace.com/doclehman). >=20 > What can I say? I'm excited to once again see a piece of my youth! > From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Wed Feb 13 19:31:33 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89895 invoked by uid 7800); 14 Feb 2008 03:31:32 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24809 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2008 03:31:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2008 03:31:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.209) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2008 03:30:59 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n31.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 03:30:59 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 03:30:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 03:30:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:30:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.209 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.33.75 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: CPL - Contemporary Pictorial Literature X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=3UXL6p2rhFBzNo9Jk2Oqjs0-qxlVDNSvxLFHz8Nqa887-gUdbN-CGw3j X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 14 Feb 2008 03:31:32 -0000 On my most recent blog I write about the old CPL - Contemporary=20 Pictorial Literature fanzine from the 70's. Scans and comments from Bob=20 Layton included: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=3Dblog.ListAll&friendID=3D309616146 From nightray2002@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 06:18:10 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84783 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:08 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33152 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n32a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.211) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n32.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 21:46:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:46:48 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.211 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.2.142.120 From: "Darrell Goza" Subject:OT: I've always wanted to post - X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357; y=-4CGudwT6Ow2kHN-j7VP1ZALkDdBKOq8-cVfIbMKIhWLU3jQXrEc X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 23 Feb 2008 14:18:07 -0000 -as I'm also a fanzine producer but haven't=20 everything set up yet, but this was sent to=20 me and I thought everyone should read it.=20 Here's a touching news piece that should have been covered not just for it's Patriotism but also for its humanity. Unfortunately it wasn't carried in hardly any papers. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScriptGraphicsArtPremier/ Darrell From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 04:03:53 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51009 invoked by uid 7800); 26 Feb 2008 12:03:52 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82677 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 06:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 06:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.130) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 06:12:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 06:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 06:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 06:12:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:12:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.33.75 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: Old Fanzine Discovered X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=2o_p_Fwc3OIHY_mhzZfzUq-VwWBejS6ISru4XjHqTe860FrfPj5-HYjw X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 26 Feb 2008 12:03:52 -0000 After 33 years I finally got my hands on a copy of a fanzine I produced=20 36 years ago called Informative On Comics #2. I made a blog entry on=20 finding this fanzine and the history and contents of it titled `Fanzine=20 Flashback After 33 Years' at:=20 http:doclehman.wordpress.com From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Tue Mar 11 18:11:03 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 73633 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Mar 2008 01:11:01 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95350 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 00:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2008 00:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.216) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 00:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2008 00:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2008 00:12:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:12:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.33.75 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: 1972 Fanzine Scanned & Online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=DQFNlDWB4UIfTYwGZcS37nErINF2yZLLjEWWUSXy4rfUOeOrK9t34EAT X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Mar 2008 01:11:01 -0000 After 33 years I have come into possession of the two issues of a=20 fanzine a friend and I published in 1972 called Informative On Comics.=20 At the urging of one of the original contributors in 1972 the two=20 issues were scanned and posted on it's on blog. If you would like to=20 view them please visit: http://iocfanzine.wordpress.com=20 -Doc http://doclehman.wordpress.com=20 From djatf@aol.com Wed Mar 12 05:42:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59485 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 12:42:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2008 12:42:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 12:42:37 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.d48.242bdb81 (37050) for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-DB01 (webmail-db01.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.66]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB038-90ba47d7cfb4334; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:29 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:28 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 71.32.66.63 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35304-STANDARD X-Received: from 71.32.66.63 by WEBMAIL-DB01.sysops.aol.com (205.188.105.66) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:42:28 -0400 Message-Id: <8CA5255AABF9E8C-A5C-3A09@WEBMAIL-DB01.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re:1972 Fanzine Scanned & Online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=ctagfJen44qCdw4grjpmYCMbUTxtG41_3LsddzNblpzTDEMBjFg X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Doc, I just read the entirety of IOC #2 that you posted. Thanks for doing that. It really took me back in time to a period that was very exciting to be a comics fan--all of Marvel's new projects under the direction of Roy (Warlock, Hero For Hire,?Tomb of Dracula, the Beast series) and Kubert taking over Tarzan along with the beginning of the wonderful 100 page giants at DC. And then you have all the Steranko projects that got me so excited at the time and half of which we're still waiting on 36 years later! And I got a kick out of all the lists of super-hero groups, secret IDs, etc. We fans sure loved to do stuff like that in our wonder years! ??? Gene Kehoe P.S. I tried to find some of those old fanzines you mention on Doug Sulipa's website but had no luck.?He has tons of categories of stuff for sale, but nothing under?a fanzine?category. Where does he hide these? ??? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Wed Mar 12 09:40:26 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20199 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 16:40:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2008 16:40:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.220) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 16:40:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2008 16:40:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Mar 2008 16:40:24 -0000 X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24152 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.69.183) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 14:25:59 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 52665 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2008 14:25:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xgT8EfAVM1lhsDbxlS8mFPpw1_yHiDRpqInga3mjBZYqnM5vPdFhXBrn0k9hec0x2g-- X-Received: from [24.140.33.75] by web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:25:58 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CA5255AABF9E8C-A5C-3A09@WEBMAIL-DB01.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <805950.51650.qm@web33905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.69.183 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: DirtRacers Radio Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re:1972 Fanzine Scanned & Online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=-lw7CgsDtZG9g8wTzjc8aV0BULCLno4bBLB5p-IpKYJ7RuyqbW5YVxFa X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 12 Mar 2008 16:40:23 -0000 Gene: Thanks for the good words. After not seeing either issue for over 30 years I got a real kick out of reading them, despite being so amateur, but still, it allowed me to recall the enthusiasm for the comic world and fandom at the time. I was amazed at what was going on then (as you mentioned). Doug's Comic World's list of fanzines is located at: http://www.dougcomicworld.com/INVENTORY-MiscMagazinesSite.html He has an amazing selection and the serivce is great. I'd like to see more vintage zines scanned and put online. Doc http://doclehman.wordpress.com djatf@aol.com wrote: Hey, Doc, I just read the entirety of IOC #2 that you posted. Thanks for doing that. It really took me back in time to a period that was very exciting to be a comics fan--all of Marvel's new projects under the direction of Roy (Warlock, Hero For Hire,?Tomb of Dracula, the Beast series) and Kubert taking over Tarzan along with the beginning of the wonderful 100 page giants at DC. And then you have all the Steranko projects that got me so excited at the time and half of which we're still waiting on 36 years later! And I got a kick out of all the lists of super-hero groups, secret IDs, etc. We fans sure loved to do stuff like that in our wonder years! ??? Gene Kehoe P.S. I tried to find some of those old fanzines you mention on Doug Sulipa's website but had no luck.?He has tons of categories of stuff for sale, but nothing under?a fanzine?category. Where does he hide these? ??? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun Mar 23 22:43:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49481 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2008 05:43:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2008 05:43:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.189) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2008 05:43:07 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1257502rvb.20 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.82.38 with SMTP id f38mr1944203rvb.27.1206337387074; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.141.50.21 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a0803232243m62a525f7k22cf4da99580bdad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:43:07 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.189 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Ric Croxton" Subject: O'Neil Observer X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=ibfxOZUL0CGwmseJWVcDPuFeJkQbcu35yzs8JH0S_fi759ssYQ X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 I recently bought and read issues #3 & 4 and printed the #4.5 free internet copy. How many issues was in the series and does anyone have any for sale? Ric -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." From mclegg@rock.com Mon Mar 24 09:06:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg@rock.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66072 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2008 16:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2008 16:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.67) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2008 16:04:41 -0000 X-Received: from 242.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa (242.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa [192.168.8.242]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 728F61800DA4 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:04:41 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.131) by wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com; 24 Mar 2008 15:57:29 -0000 X-Received: by ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F82143D06; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:04:41 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:04:41 -0700 X-Received: from [130.65.109.104] by ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for mclegg@rock.com; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:04:41 -0700 X-Originating-Server: ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20080324160441.3F82143D06@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Originating-IP: 205.158.62.67 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Mark Clegg" Subject: Re: [cbzines] O'Neil Observer X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=316538944; y=By9Y2I-vVGxyb-K28eMOUTsdKAT3_uxPU_ruSxIs3Qn-3c6hZhg X-Yahoo-Profile: mclegg_2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the link for the scanned copy of O'Neil Observer #4.5? --Mark Clegg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Croxton" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] O'Neil Observer Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:43:07 -0500 I recently bought and read issues #3 & 4 and printed the #4.5 free internet copy. How many issues was in the series and does anyone have any for sale? Ric -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." -- You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of Storage! http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ric.croxton@gmail.com Mon Mar 24 11:52:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98607 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2008 18:51:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2008 18:51:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.184) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2008 18:51:59 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g11so1363081rvb.57 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:51:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.141.18.14 with SMTP id v14mr2464534rvi.236.1206384717935; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.141.50.21 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10390f8a0803241151k70cf8ea9o4e528e6693ac329e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:51:57 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20080324160441.3F82143D06@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080324160441.3F82143D06@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Ric Croxton" Subject: Re: [cbzines] O'Neil Observer X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=CS966QgAK4KLZ6wd9vsj8TXCtU-LbxpwtNCNVg9pDjOrf5gCbQ X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 I downloaded the copy a couple of years ago from my old computer. Now I can't find the site, Ric On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Mark Clegg wrote: > > > > > What is the link for the scanned copy of O'Neil Observer #4.5? --Mark > Clegg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric Croxton" > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] O'Neil Observer > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:43:07 -0500 > > I recently bought and read issues #3 & 4 and printed the #4.5 free > internet copy. How many issues was in the series and does anyone have > any for sale? > > Ric > > -- > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant > things like food and clothes." > > -- > You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of > Storage! > > http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." From errelbe@yahoo.com Tue Mar 25 09:53:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13824 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.235) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2008 16:53:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:53:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.235 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: to share digital fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=wCs9PgzFuPx2fpoTfp5wxdLcZiBcrjaUPS31E0Kq_PT3dg X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe Is nobody interesed in share digital copies of fanzines? roberto From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Mon May 12 16:29:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14133 invoked from network); 12 May 2008 23:29:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2008 23:29:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n22a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.51) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2008 23:29:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2008 23:29:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2008 23:29:27 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:29:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 209.73.164.226 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: new TBT webcomic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=8WrNrnDdO2r6XTcoll1ayXfziNBQJwKfaCO4YLHlGJ2Ayw X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a new TBT C O L O R webcomic up featuring a fantastic cover by HIM's George McVey! 3 thrilling stories of Super Team GX in the past, present, and future (with additional McVey inks! Meet Stacey Donovan, a young adventurer lost in time! All this plus a cameo by George Lane 's creation KING GEO! Check it out now...it's free! click here >>>>> http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/webcomic3a.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nightray2002@yahoo.com Mon May 26 04:17:41 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 76521 invoked by uid 7800); 26 May 2008 11:17:39 -0000 X-Sender: nightray2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72856 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 05:26:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 May 2008 05:26:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.172) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 May 2008 05:26:18 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 May 2008 05:26:18 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 May 2008 05:26:18 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 May 2008 05:26:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:26:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.2.141.46 From: "Darrell Goza" Subject: - Orphan Bill hits congress - X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=156194357; y=a7CdtlYMEk2wpk6CoDLllOg3J1yG5qEtvZBlxQ1LeYeuw5qs1eRL X-Yahoo-Profile: nightray2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 26 May 2008 11:17:39 -0000 Artists alert =96 Orphan Bill hits congress - This was sent to me by Howard Simpson, an=20 artist that's worked for almost all the=20 major publishers in the industry but=20 who is best known for his work on=20 Valiant Comics 'Harbinger' series. ORPHAN WORKS ACT NOW IN CONGRESS! =20=20 It is time we join together to speak up=20 and stand up for what is ours. Congress is working rapidly to pass the Orphan Works=20 Bill. Under this bill copyright laws will be=20 comprised and artists will be forced to register=20 work with for-profit registries as a condition=20 of protecting copyrights. As artists we are all=20 subject to the effectsof this bill and will=20 benefit from acting now to prevent its approval. Don't sit back and wait, the future of our=20 creations lies in our hands. Please review the following information below and act promptly.=20 Together we can create changeand maintain what=20 is ours. Thank you for your support and I will=20 personally continueto keep my fingers crossed=20 and spread the word to STOP the Orphan Works Bill. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What is the Orphan Works Bill? The Orphan Works Bill is Back.=20 And this time the wheels have been greased=20 for quick passage. Yesterday a revived Orphan Works Bill sailed through a House=20 panel. Today the Senate bill will be marked up. These bills will expose any work of art=20 to commercial infringement. This will include everything from professional paintings to personal photos placed on the net. The bills will coerce you to register your work=20 with for-profit registries as a condition of=20 protecting your copyrights. Any unregistered=20 pictures will be subject to Orphan Works=20 infringement. This is a radical departure from=20 international copyright law and normal business=20 practice. If you wish to oppose this legislation,=20 you must act now. We've set up an online site for=20 anyone to e-mail their Senators and Representatives=20 with one click. This site is open to professional=20 artists, photographers and any member of the=20 image-making public. =20 Here's the original bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=3Dh110-5889 Act Now! Two minutes is all it takes! If you're opposed to the Orphan Works act,=20 this site is yours to use. Two minutes is all it takes to write Congress=20 and fight for your copyrights. Go here:=20 http://capwiz.com/illustratorspartnership/home/ Pick a sample letter or write your own.=20 Type in your zip code. Your letter will be=20 automatically addressed to your congressman=20 and senators. Click and send.=20 (It couldn't be made any easier!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Additional Information For More information on the Orphan Works=20 Bill (click on the links below): IPA Statement to House Subcommittee March 20, 2008=20 http://tinyurl.com/6btnzy IPA Senate Mark-up Comments April 30, 2008=20 http://tinyurl.com/4hj736 (once there click on `Senate bill comments=20 for markup' and you'll get the file in PDF=20 format) Geneva/ May 7, 2008 Orphan Works Bill Catches=20 Global Attention/ Intellectual Property Watch=20 http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=3D1028 MP3 Interview on sellyourtvconcept.com=20=20 http://tinyurl.com/4t8x2d YouTube:=20 http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DCqBZd0cP5Yc=20 Joining you in the ABC's of faith -=20 Action, Belief and Confidence. Howard Simpson ABBA DABBA All the other URLs (above) are from graphic arts=20 personnel who broke down the legalese to something=20 more understandable. I've read the bill and it's language=20 is deceptive and you'd almost need a law degree to=20 decipher it. The actual URLs were quite long and I've=20 made them smaller and more accessible so they=20 wouldn't break-up and have to be piece-meal cut and=20 pasted into the URL address bar. Just click and you=20 should be taken where you need to be.=20 Darrell From jimigherkin@yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 10 13:26:35 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34208 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Jun 2008 20:26:34 -0000 X-Sender: jimigherkin@yahoo.co.uk X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12905 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 20:26:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:05 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:26:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 213.246.77.132 From: "jimigherkin" Subject: Comic and zine event in london X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=325325437; y=kvF1gja99LlSIJ9vlJgvkkfxVdvQY40WVur9fIIswmoAsG4E96A X-Yahoo-Profile: jimigherkin X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 10 Jun 2008 20:26:34 -0000 Pens, pencils and photocopiers!- A comics and zine event Saturday 19th July 2008 11:00am - 7:00pm The Plough 27 Museum Street London WC1A 1LH Bringing together comics and zine creators from all over the country to showcase their work in London in a celebration of self publishing. Lots of activities on the day including live drawing- take part in drawing competitions with the artists on an overhead projector! All this right next door to London's famous Cartoon Museum. What a great way to start the summer holidays! http://comicsandzines.wordpress.com From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 05 10:06:43 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16956 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 17:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 17:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.23) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 17:06:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 17:06:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 17:06:41 -0000 X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17926 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.148) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 16:43:34 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:43:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010619112011.98757.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.148 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 205.188.117.142 From: "comicbookheaven" Subject: Re: [cbzines] DITKOMANIA Has Retired X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=dzoqas5kWUuK0ZazwG8AN-6aSzn3r-4SnRlVZ78MhfEtigE2ndFxqMgG X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 Jul 2008 17:06:40 -0000 Actually it was Gene Kehoe of IT'S A FANZINE fame that introduced me to=20 the group.=20 Bill --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jim Main wrote: > > Blake-Are you talking about Bill HALL? Bill was > drafted into the ressurrected UNITED FANZINE > ORGANIZATION by yours truly when I revived that group > in '84.=20 From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 05 10:33:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17204 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.60) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:33:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 205.188.117.142 From: "comicbookheaven" Subject: What I remember most about the UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=N7u9yS-CqTQSyr_M0d3jprjjauBIUnYbHZwTsUqm0WmMssAHgFOCFvsO X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven was being required to put the UFO checklist of all the members=20 publications in DITKOMANIA. Publications would be put on checklist and=20 then voted on later by the members as to if they were high enough=20 quality which I considered a bass ackwards system.=20 Most of the publications were people auditioning for Marvel or DC=20 and not traditional fanzines. I remember that a favorite phrase of=20 group at the time when refering to Marvel and DC was "four-colored=20 Facists" Since I had no other ads (or non-Ditko related material) in=20 DITKOMANIA I left after my one year membership had expired.=20=20 Bill www.JustMarvel.com=20 From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 05 11:16:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56129 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 18:16:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 18:16:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 18:16:09 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cf6.35b2f32d (34911) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:16:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MC05 (webmail-mc05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.82]) by cia-da02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA028-885f486fba61139; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:16:01 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:16:01 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.38.49 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37563-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.38.49 by WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:16:01 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAACE250C7EFF0-1700-20DB@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What I remember most about the UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=GzCjl7DNPigSisLiREs7JKKs1NF-iw9PkNazG6G1zdZUsw X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pretty sure it's the other way around...the books got voted on first and then?were put on the checklist if they were good enough. GJ -----Original Message----- From: comicbookheaven To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 1:33 pm Subject: [cbzines] What I remember most about the UFO was being required to put the UFO checklist of all the members publications in DITKOMANIA. Publications would be put on checklist and then voted on later by the members as to if they were high enough quality which I considered a bass ackwards system. Most of the publications were people auditioning for Marvel or DC and not traditional fanzines. I remember that a favorite phrase of group at the time when refering to Marvel and DC was "four-colored Facists" Since I had no other ads (or non-Ditko related material) in DITKOMANIA I left after my one year membership had expired. Bill www.JustMarvel.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 05 11:41:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78910 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 18:40:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 18:40:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 18:40:58 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c43.3782ee55 (39954) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:40:50 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 910 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What I remember most about the UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=GXCLN96VbPof9YeI_IoNkcAP2NTy4Pw4g8fvVUjuReyCX-7joWYtVf27 X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WRONG - when I propposed a notion to change it to that the membership acted like I was trying to rape their dogs and kill their girlfriends. Bill In a message dated 7/5/2008 2:16:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: I'm pretty sure it's the other way around...the books got voted on first and then?were put on the checklist if they were good enough. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 05 11:42:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 27284 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 18:42:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 18:42:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 18:42:54 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cdd.32247533 (39954) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:42:45 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 910 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=fdnjOgyGy51bbSXHOtxAfEkrayXGEicXKkVbwujTOmmhm6wBy2JboHpP X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That should read In a message dated 7/5/2008 2:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ditkomania@aol.com writes: WRONG - when I proposed a motion to change it to that the membership acted like I was trying to rape their dogs and kill their girlfriends. Bill **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 05 12:09:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89221 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 19:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 19:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 19:09:26 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c10.3b1f9685 (34990) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:09:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MC05 (webmail-mc05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.82]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB013-88ae486fc6da21a; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:09:14 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:09:14 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.38.49 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37563-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.38.49 by WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:09:14 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAACE9BFA74FA0-1700-231E@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What I remember most about the UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=VM8cjCVKCtQJDQb3nadN5LyNVAMvZExvJgnm_geLM5a0RA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll have to dig out my old issues of the UFO NL to see where this happened. GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 2:40 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] What I remember most about the UFO WRONG - when I propposed a notion to change it to that the membership acted like I was trying to rape their dogs and kill their girlfriends. Bill In a message dated 7/5/2008 2:16:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: I'm pretty sure it's the other way around...the books got voted on first and then?were put on the checklist if they were good enough. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 05 12:13:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29079 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bfe.3f88d0b6 (34935) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:13:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MC05 (webmail-mc05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.82]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA048-8877486fc7c581; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:13:09 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:13:09 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.38.49 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37563-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.38.49 by WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:13:09 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAACEA4BB1DA98-1700-2355@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=IVVTeorIO8xP002Us7WZBQy-rCmEoKDwq4gJQDH1rW2yZA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it's time to switch to decaf! GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 2:42 pm Subject: [cbzines] oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up That should read In a message dated 7/5/2008 2:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ditkomania@aol.com writes: WRONG - when I proposed a motion to change it to that the membership acted like I was trying to rape their dogs and kill their girlfriends. Bill **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 05 12:17:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84432 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 19:17:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 19:17:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 19:17:06 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cfa.392e6a86 (39954) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:17:01 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 910 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=MdvKHfMr8g4RqPH4PAX9u4PTEUlBy5ofwZYVK1lGZ8vea4IsVUVEueKr X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/5/2008 3:13:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Maybe it's time to switch to decaf! More like I should live in the present and forget about past mistakes. That particular error has already been dealt with. Bill **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 05 12:32:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21274 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 19:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2008 19:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2008 19:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.d29.2b59b284 (37115) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:31:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MC05 (webmail-mc05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.82]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA011-90fb486fcc2e30b; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:31:58 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:31:58 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.38.49 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37563-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.38.49 by WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:31:58 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAACECECC0C168-1700-2423@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=7qWsKOkxYI4XTLAL2zU9c3V9WRWYA_IyGDQrWPqeb3hV7g X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a great idea! Let's both try it... GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 3:17 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up In a message dated 7/5/2008 3:13:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Maybe it's time to switch to decaf! More like I should live in the present and forget about past mistakes. That particular error has already been dealt with. Bill **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From djatf@aol.com Wed Jul 16 19:41:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Djatf@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62580 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2008 02:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2008 02:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2008 02:41:52 -0000 X-Received: from Djatf@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c0e.3714049f (37062) for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:41:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB048-90c6487eb16815f; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:41:44 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M18 (fwm-m18.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.82]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA034-5bbd487eb1591d0; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:41:29 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:41:29 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 97.115.157.66 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 97.115.157.66 by FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:41:29 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB5CDBFFB38E5-A98-31E2@FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: djatf@aol.com Subject: Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59960936; y=Fqhm3A0K33PQi38-qXqQK6KSxdo222_NKosRlSBoYFBR5PkcCf8 X-Yahoo-Profile: pinson50702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bill! Hi Jim! I saw my name mentioned so I had to jump in very late (been offline dealing with flooding in my basement and at my job...luckily only lost a few Weisinger Superman family DC books in?my flooded basement...most would not consider that a big loss!) All I remember about the UFO was running the checklist in IAF and that a bunch of the members were pushing their Christian agenda in their fanzines (Steve Shipley comes to mind immediately, but it's been a long time and there were many others) which drove my co-editor nuts! He'd give the zines bad reviews at times and that did not go over well with the UFO membership! Myself, I was rather ambivalent. I was more concerned about IAF than Christian inspired amateur comic zines. ??? Gene Kehoe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Thu Jul 17 08:28:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94870 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2008 15:28:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2008 15:28:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta9.adelphia.net) (68.168.78.199) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2008 15:28:13 -0000 X-Received: from IANLAPTOP ([24.165.147.191]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20080717153352.ZSZZ4520.mta9.adelphia.net@IANLAPTOP> for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:33:52 -0400 To: References: <8CAB5CDBFFB38E5-A98-31E2@FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:23:56 -0400 Message-ID: <21f701c8e821$21b36970$0302a8c0@IANLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjntsCEzvfwIepPRsGRVGMpZFwRfAAaeU0A In-Reply-To: <8CAB5CDBFFB38E5-A98-31E2@FWM-M18.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.168.78.199 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=8C_OOAqjL5CO8c38UMj1NtmueSrpJwy6YZrxdlt2p5f2ew X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The UFO still exists. You can reach the current chairman of it through my website: http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/forum511.html the past agenda lead to a split off of the group of the Christian agenda, called Pizzazz Comics, but it folded in the 90's. The UFO today is more mid-range indy level. Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of djatf@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:41 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up Hi Bill! Hi Jim! I saw my name mentioned so I had to jump in very late (been offline dealing with flooding in my basement and at my job...luckily only lost a few Weisinger Superman family DC books in?my flooded basement...most would not consider that a big loss!) All I remember about the UFO was running the checklist in IAF and that a bunch of the members were pushing their Christian agenda in their fanzines (Steve Shipley comes to mind immediately, but it's been a long time and there were many others) which drove my co-editor nuts! He'd give the zines bad reviews at times and that did not go over well with the UFO membership! Myself, I was rather ambivalent. I was more concerned about IAF than Christian inspired amateur comic zines. ??? Gene Kehoe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Fri Jul 18 19:08:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71107 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 02:08:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 02:08:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 02:08:36 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c15.1c86ddee (39952) for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:08:32 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: The Devil You Say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=OnXjYEpv5xqSws5WRLIEINudOtrY8SP4BdH2Bfe1y26VD1qqs84hBin5 X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:28:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ian@dimestoreproductions.com writes: The UFO still exists. The past agenda lead to a split off of the group of the Christian agenda, called Pizzazz Comics, but it folded in the 90's. The UFO today is more mid-range indy level. I'm sure that there has been a lot of improvements to the United Fanzine Organization in the twenty plus years since the few months when DITKOMANIA endured the logo and checklist. Every time I hear the Grateful Dead's "ST. Stephen" I think of Steve Shipley telling us how important Christian fanzines were because of all of the Satanic fanzines being published. I stated that I didn't know of any so I was going to start one called "The Devil You Say." I seem to remember that Shipley's main amateur press character was an extremely well-endowed rabbit. Bill **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Fri Jul 18 19:31:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93875 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 02:31:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 02:31:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 02:31:12 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bfc.3d33ec69 (39952) for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:31:04 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=KhjLUH4_SqPb-HjsTkeRPzY1frUVuA1VoKMq1FwyRye4C33QqSXIA_II X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/16/2008 10:42:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, djatf@aol.com writes: Hi Bill! Hi Jim! I saw my name mentioned so I had to jump in very late (been offline dealing with flooding in my basement and at my job...luckily only lost a few Weisinger Superman family DC books in?my flooded basement...most would not consider that a big loss!) All I remember about the UFO was running the checklist in IAF and that a bunch of the members were pushing their Christian agenda in their fanzines (Steve Shipley comes to mind immediately, but it's been a long time and there were many others) which drove my co-editor nuts! He'd give the zines bad reviews at times and that did not go over well with the UFO membership! Myself, I was rather ambivalent. I was more concerned about IAF than Christian inspired amateur comic zines. ??? Gene Kehoe Great to hear from you Gene. I was searching through some dusty corners to try and find an old copy of Tetragrammaton Fragments to suppost my contention that a memberzine would be placed on the UFO checklist first and THEN there would be a protracted vote (2 to 3 months) to decide if the fanzine meant with UFO's standards ("I'll say your fanzine is good if you say mine is good"). Instead I found a big stack of IT'S A FANZINEs. (#27-42) Not a one of them is a UFO book. You had some hurtful things to say about Marvel in the 80s. Do you have a better opinion of Marvel since they've lead the pack in improving the product in the last five years? Bill www.Just Marvel.com **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 05:50:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1848 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 12:50:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 12:50:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 12:50:10 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c21.2bd03fbc (37141) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:50:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA033-91154881e2f9181; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:50:01 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA028-5bb94881e2f668; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:49:58 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:49:58 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:49:58 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7B5162D383F-1408-3C64@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.35 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Devil You Say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=Qe_jCtPLG9DE70JjXbrjb-gOPPAnxRCMm0JTjnX_bt1psQ X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you sure you aren't talking about Jeff Wood's Snowbunny?one? GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:08 pm Subject: [cbzines] The Devil You Say In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:28:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ian@dimestoreproductions.com writes: The UFO still exists. The past agenda lead to a split off of the group of the Christian agenda, called Pizzazz Comics, but it folded in the 90's. The UFO today is more mid-range indy level. I'm sure that there has been a lot of improvements to the United Fanzine Organization in the twenty plus years since the few months when DITKOMANIA endured the logo and checklist. Every time I hear the Grateful Dead's "ST. Stephen" I think of Steve Shipley telling us how important Christian fanzines were because of all of the Satanic fanzines being published. I stated that I didn't know of any so I was going to start one called "The Devil You Say." I seem to remember that Shipley's main amateur press character was an extremely well-endowed rabbit. Bill **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 05:52:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8892 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 12:52:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 12:52:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 12:52:46 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c81.30345fd8 (34932) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA045-88744881e39917; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:41 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA017-5c494881e389353; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:25 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:25 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:52:25 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7B56D6F15D4-1408-3C83@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=rFlA4x93ZLH2DWXJVo9_mO1eZ_358kW5fKlMjUfmwAeqeA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill-you actually thing DC is worse than Marvel these days? GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:31 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: oops the revisionist history got me all jazzed up In a message dated 7/16/2008 10:42:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, djatf@aol.com writes: Hi Bill! Hi Jim! I saw my name mentioned so I had to jump in very late (been offline dealing with flooding in my basement and at my job...luckily only lost a few Weisinger Superman family DC books in?my flooded basement...most would not consider that a big loss!) All I remember about the UFO was running the checklist in IAF and that a bunch of the members were pushing their Christian agenda in their fanzines (Steve Shipley comes to mind immediately, but it's been a long time and there were many others) which drove my co-editor nuts! He'd give the zines bad reviews at times and that did not go over well with the UFO membership! Myself, I was rather ambivalent. I was more concerned about IAF than Christian inspired amateur comic zines. ??? Gene Kehoe Great to hear from you Gene. I was searching through some dusty corners to try and find an old copy of Tetragrammaton Fragments to suppost my contention that a memberzine would be placed on the UFO checklist first and THEN there would be a protracted vote (2 to 3 months) to decide if the fanzine meant with UFO's standards ("I'll say your fanzine is good if you say mine is good"). Instead I found a big stack of IT'S A FANZINEs. (#27-42) Not a one of them is a UFO book. You had some hurtful things to say about Marvel in the 80s. Do you have a better opinion of Marvel since they've lead the pack in improving the product in the last five years? Bill www.Just Marvel.com **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:04:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73042 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:04:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:04:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.100) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:04:36 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c32.32f10699 (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:04:32 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Devil You Say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=-2tHKL4lDVbOoM2inKVVtf7GHv4XL1pElryzxUPzOW_xwQl_p-5mmcxC X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I distinctly remember the name Cutey Bunny. There was so many funny animals UFO strips by wannabes that couldn't comprehend why Marvel and DC had no interest in their work that it WAS hard to distinguish one from the other though.. I can't check St Steven's fanzines - I burned them all in a cemetary at midnight while chanting "Nema live morf su reviled..." a Bill In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:50:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Are you sure you aren't talking about Jeff Wood's Snowbunny?one? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:12:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13842 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:12:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:12:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:12:07 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bfe.41294f74 (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:12:04 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Almost 50 years of being second best X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=AV6h4xKWfzGOumsRulZo1IRVcE5cur4JwU_n92Czk9vo0v0AxNu_lNmv X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since Marvel has been outselling 2 to 1 for quite a while now and they can only get one title in the Diamond Top Ten of Actual Sales compared to Marvel having 8 or 9 titles (depending on whether or on how Dark Horse's BUFFY sells) each month, it is an objective fact not subjective supposition. Bill _www.JustMarvel.com_ (http://www.JustMarvel.com) In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Bill-you actually thing DC is worse than Marvel these days? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:14:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89296 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:14:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:14:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:14:12 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c7c.3001b416 (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:14:06 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Almost 50 years of being second best - corrected X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=zfpg3gtT9rrCsROsWq-oCBU_G93DPfKO1OykImaBtuLIx9K4wPpbkit2 X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since Marvel has been outselling Derivative Comics 2 to 1 for quite a while now and they can only get one title in the Diamond Top Ten of Actual Sales compared to Marvel having 8 or 9 titles (depending on whether or on how Dark Horse's BUFFY sells) each month, it is an objective fact not subjective supposition. Bill _www.JustMarvel.com_ (http://www.JustMarvel.com) In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Bill-you actually thing DC is worse than Marvel these days? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:26:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49235 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:26:01 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.d1f.2c520e63 (37120) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:25:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA016-91004881eb66244; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:25:58 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA022-5c4c4881eb5e5f; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:25:50 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:25:50 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:25:50 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BA18AB7187-1408-3E46@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Devil You Say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=HA1oI5MhXId3x4Gl5OunMCaSAyMnfWcOkAKTEFZvXwZPdg X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm...I think that character was by Joshua Quagmire who was never a member of the UFO IIRC... GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:04 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] The Devil You Say I distinctly remember the name Cutey Bunny. There was so many funny animals UFO strips by wannabes that couldn't comprehend why Marvel and DC had no interest in their work that it WAS hard to distinguish one from the other though.. I can't check St Steven's fanzines - I burned them all in a cemetary at midnight while chanting "Nema live morf su reviled..." a Bill In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:50:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Are you sure you aren't talking about Jeff Wood's Snowbunny?one? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:27:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94732 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:27:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:27:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:27:26 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cea.39d75517 (37127) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:27:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA021-91074881ebbb249; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:27:23 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA037-5c594881ebb22f0; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:27:14 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:27:15 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:27:15 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BA4B1549F8-1408-3E5B@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Almost 50 years of being second best X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=TY8QKG7hOyVLHElCP0XCNEK8onYZXF2oUBNrQe3DGksTGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That may be, but that doesn't mean the quality is better. GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:12 am Subject: [cbzines] Almost 50 years of being second best Since Marvel has been outselling 2 to 1 for quite a while now and they can only get one title in the Diamond Top Ten of Actual Sales compared to Marvel having 8 or 9 titles (depending on whether or on how Dark Horse's BUFFY sells) each month, it is an objective fact not subjective supposition. Bill _www.JustMarvel.com_ (http://www.JustMarvel.com) In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: Bill-you actually thing DC is worse than Marvel these days? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:28:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44109 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:28:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:28:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.100) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:28:36 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c78.37aafe05 (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:28:30 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Almost 50 years of being second best X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=G5HXHGhovtIfyZMwoZuh-h4A0aqIRlX3QfRlckXUNRN1RfutFBDCYZ71 X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, That's the funniest thing I've heard this week. In a message dated 7/19/2008 9:27:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: That may be, but that doesn't mean the quality is better. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:31:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40256 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:31:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:31:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:31:22 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.be2.3007345f (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:31:16 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Sales from the Real World X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=WxWIy2X35Yvnjou1wq3_dyGG_sav4SbZt2AxMN2CJyI_fx9lUbpS-fxJ X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Diamond July Top 5 1 - SECRET INVASION #2 (180,000 copies) 2- FINAL CRISIS #1 (142,000 copies) - should be fun following the sales of this title 3 - NEW AVENGERS #41 (106,000 copies) 4 - AVENGERS/INVADERS #1 (105,000 copies) 5 - INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 (102,000) Diamond June Top 5 1- SECRET INVASION #1 (350,000 copies) 2- NEW AVENGERS #40 (155,000 COPIES) 3- DARK TOWER LONG ROAD HOME #2 (144,000 copies) 4- MIGHTY AVENGERS #12 (136,000 copies) 5- UNCANNY X-MEN #497 (130,000 copies) Diamond May top 5 1- X-FORCE #1 (154,000 copies) 2- NEW AVENGERS #38 (152,000 copies) 3- AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #549 (148,000 copies) 4- THOR #6 (144,000 copies) 5 - ULTIMATES 3 #3 (140,000 copies) Well, at least DC is a critical success. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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(http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:37:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14837 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:37:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:37:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.100) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:37:26 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bf0.30e6fc4e (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:37:23 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=xJ5Mo8uKLijrJe2vnSoSlPpKutnsJZgsfrEkJY-90-zQTyZLed8GdrwP X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5 months ago he said that critical success was meaningless, that his goal was to return the title to being the top ten in sales. 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(http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:41:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87657 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:41:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:41:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:41:51 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cfc.3af81e6f (37540) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:41:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB021-92a44881ef1c96; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:41:48 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA031-5c534881ef13256; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:41:39 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:41:39 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:41:39 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BC4E8895C5-1408-3F00@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Almost 50 years of being second best X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=mSWHZnDsHfNklzumoirKlU9j-asu8YOzRNS1c28u92kVEA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad to help... GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:28 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Almost 50 years of being second best Thanks, That's the funniest thing I've heard this week. In a message dated 7/19/2008 9:27:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmain44@aol.com writes: That may be, but that doesn't mean the quality is better. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:42:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12840 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:42:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:42:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m24.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.5) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:42:46 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cd9.34e345a2 (37140) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:42:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA032-91144881ef5316; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:42:43 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA028-5bb94881ef4e32a; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:42:38 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:42:38 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:42:38 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BC71BA989C-1408-3F08@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sales from the Real World X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=BadsS2JgbBb4ezl1HGEefDXOmfPWZGte6qdj4IXd1LEfSQ X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Still doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned. GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:31 am Subject: [cbzines] Sales from the Real World Diamond July Top 5 1 - SECRET INVASION #2 (180,000 copies) 2- FINAL CRISIS #1 (142,000 copies) - should be fun following the sales of this title 3 - NEW AVENGERS #41 (106,000 copies) 4 - AVENGERS/INVADERS #1 (105,000 copies) 5 - INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 (102,000) Diamond June Top 5 1- SECRET INVASION #1 (350,000 copies) 2- NEW AVENGERS #40 (155,000 COPIES) 3- DARK TOWER LONG ROAD HOME #2 (144,000 copies) 4- MIGHTY AVENGERS #12 (136,000 copies) 5- UNCANNY X-MEN #497 (130,000 copies) Diamond May top 5 1- X-FORCE #1 (154,000 copies) 2- NEW AVENGERS #38 (152,000 copies) 3- AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #549 (148,000 copies) 4- THOR #6 (144,000 copies) 5 - ULTIMATES 3 #3 (140,000 copies) Well, at least DC is a critical success. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:43:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53357 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:43:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:43:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:43:46 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.ce2.33d0884d (37038) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:43:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB028-90ae4881ef8c27; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:43:40 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA033-5bbc4881ef89a; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:43:37 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:43:37 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:43:37 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BC94DE4D45-1408-3F11@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=kKjyin2uOo_5vNnOxptQxjKulkafO75BySiD8jpw6Hh5Ng X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Who? GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:37 am Subject: [cbzines] When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR 5 months ago he said that critical success was meaningless, that his goal was to return the title to being the top ten in sales. And he reached that goal with his first issue.... **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 06:49:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70478 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 13:49:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 13:49:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 13:49:07 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.ce7.30504f93 (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:49:04 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=Ppf_EXiFWsZnRsLT7hoTs2J7oHWheCuX44e6hSQFq_RFpnEXdr_30CCp X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 7/19/2008 9:44:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20=20 jmain44@aol.com writes: Who? WOLVERINE #66=20 (One of two DIVIDED WE STAND titles released this week) Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & wraparound cover by Steve McNiven Variant cover by Michael Turner=20 Wolverine is the ideal comic book character. He has an unbeatable healing=20 factor that also slows down his aging process, bones enhanced with an=20 unbreakable metal and built-in claws. Millar is one of Marvel's three best= current=20 writers. McNiven is the talented artist who collaborated with Millar on th= e CIVIL=20 WAR mini-series. These three combine for a story arc that takes place roughly fifty years i= n=20 the future. The world is harsh and under-populated. Wolverine has forsaken= =20 violence to try to eke out a peaceful existence with his family. All the o= ther=20 heroes, except for Hawkeye, who hasn't let being blind crush his spirit, a= re=20 dead. The story has the feel of a classic western. The revelations and hin= ts=20 of things to come filled us with the sense of wonder that only the best=20 crafted comics are capable of providing.=20 MARVEL 1985 #2=20 Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & cover by Tommy Lee Edwards This series is an innovative delight. It captures the essence of being a=20 little kid, having your life revolve around comics, and how the rest of th= e=20 world doesn't understand you. Hulk looking for Juggernaut in your neighborhood would scare most people,= =20 but not our protagonist. Millar=E2=80=99s mystery involving the selling of= old comics,=20 a man in a mental hospital and Marvel=E2=80=99s best heroes and villains r= unning=20 amok, seem perfectly plausible. The end brings a big surprise. Pick up thi= s comic=20 and find out what it is! MARVEL 1985 #3 (OF 6) Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & cover by Tommy Lee Edwards This series is an entrancing balancing act of fantasy conflicting with rea= l=20 life. The focal point is on a young boy with a love of comic books. Real l= ife=20 is often disappointing and unpleasant choices have to be made. The "real=20 life" story is written with such authenticity it is like watching your=20 neighbors.=20=20=20=20 Juxtaposed with this is the fact that MODOK, Fin Fang Foom and villainous= =20 others are running amok in this boy=E2=80=99s hometown. Millar uses every = bit of his=20 craft to get us to feel like it could actually happen.=20 The artwork by Tommy Lee Edwards is atmospheric and evocative of whatever= =20 decade he is tasked to depict. His ability to create exciting compositions= that=20 maintain consistency with the project's pre-existing look or an actor=E2= =80=99s=20 likeness, has attracted Lucasfilm Ltd, Paramount Pictures, Sony, and Warne= r=20 Brothers for projects that include artwork for Star Wars and Men in Black = 2. When MODOK makes his pin-up page entrance in the Sixties=E2=80=99 Kirby tr= adition at=20 first it looks like the innocent comics of yore but the muted background=20 subtly reveals grim reality. Later he uses his talent for expressive=20 recognizable faces to give that icon of the Silver Age, Jackie Gleason, a = cameo. Millar is presenting a tale epic in scope and for those wishing to enhance= =20 the sense-of-wonder factor, they should check out his FANTASTIC FOUR and=20 WOLVERINE. Easily the best of the current reigning power-trio titles from = mighty=20=20 Marvel. FANTASTIC FOUR #558=20 Writer: Mark Millar=20 Pencils & cover by Bryan Hitch When Ben Grimm defends Doc Doom you KNOW you are in for another innovative= =20 attempt by Millar to make the FANTASTIC FOUR Marvel's flagship team title= =20 again. Doom seeks out his old nemesis for help. Of course there is mayhem.= The=20 whole tale takes place in a couple hours time but it is impressive how muc= h=20 storytelling gets accomplished. Millar is at his best when crafting these = "day=20 in the life" storylines.=20 Like the Lee/Kirby days, subplots abound. There is more to Johnny Storm's=20 newest girlfriend than meets the eye. Plus the new nanny is not all what s= he=20 seems to be.=20 The stunning ending promises that the next issue will be even better than= =20 this one. Hopefully you read the beginning of the =E2=80=9COld Man Logan= =E2=80=9D epic in last=20 week=E2=80=99s WOLVERINE because part of the fun is trying to decipher the= clues to=20 how these two stories connect. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for=20 FanHouse Fantasy Football today.=20=20=20=20=20=20 (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 07:07:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19744 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 14:07:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 14:07:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.100) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 14:07:32 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.c57.39412a98 (37133) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA027-910d4881f51c79; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:24 -0400 X-Received: from webmail-dd06 (webmail-dd06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.6]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA031-5bba4881f514304; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:16 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:16 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.6) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:16 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7BFE2AE2C20-B94-2D@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=TU2hb6MJ65UoQTtqb1ATcdWd9idtXQJHyCPPDbqCCea3Ig X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Bill-you impress me as a guy with lots of free time on your hands! GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:49 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] When Millar took over the FANTASTIC FOUR In a message dated 7/19/2008 9:44:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 jmain44@aol.com writes: Who? WOLVERINE #66=20 (One of two DIVIDED WE STAND titles released this week) Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & wraparound cover by Steve McNiven Variant cover by Michael Turner=20 Wolverine is the ideal comic book character. He has an unbeatable healing=20 factor that also slows down his aging process, bones enhanced with an=20 unbreakable metal and built-in claws. Millar is one of Marvel's three best = current=20 writers. McNiven is the talented artist who collaborated with Millar on the= CIVIL=20 WAR mini-series. These three combine for a story arc that takes place roughly fifty years in= =20 the future. The world is harsh and under-populated. Wolverine has forsaken= =20 violence to try to eke out a peaceful existence with his family. All the ot= her=20 heroes, except for Hawkeye, who hasn't let being blind crush his spirit, ar= e=20 dead. The story has the feel of a classic western. The revelations and hint= s=20 of things to come filled us with the sense of wonder that only the best=20 crafted comics are capable of providing.=20 MARVEL 1985 #2=20 Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & cover by Tommy Lee Edwards This series is an innovative delight. It captures the essenc e of being a=20 little kid, having your life revolve around comics, and how the rest of the= =20 world doesn't understand you. Hulk looking for Juggernaut in your neighborhood would scare most people,=20 but not our protagonist. Millar=E2=80=99s mystery involving the selling of = old comics,=20 a man in a mental hospital and Marvel=E2=80=99s best heroes and villains ru= nning=20 amok, seem perfectly plausible. The end brings a big surprise. Pick up this= comic=20 and find out what it is! MARVEL 1985 #3 (OF 6) Writer: Mark Millar Pencils & cover by Tommy Lee Edwards This series is an entrancing balancing act of fantasy conflicting with real= =20 life. The focal point is on a young boy with a love of comic books. Real li= fe=20 is often disappointing and unpleasant choices have to be made. The "real=20 life" story is written with such authenticity it is like watching your=20 neighbors.=20 Juxtaposed with this is the fact that MODOK, Fin Fang Foom and villainous=20 others are running amok in this boy=E2=80=99s hometown. Millar uses every b= it of his=20 craft to get us to feel like it could actually happen.=20 The artwork by Tommy Lee Edwards is atmospheric and evocative of whatever=20 decade he is tasked to depict. His ability to create exciting compositions = that=20 maintain consistency with the project's pre-existing look or an actor=E2=80= =99s=20 likeness, has attracted Lucasfilm Ltd, Paramount Pictures, Sony, and Warner= =20 Brothers for projects that include artwork for Star Wars and Men in Black 2= . When MODOK makes his pin-up page=20 entrance in the Sixties=E2=80=99 Kirby tradition at=20 first it looks like the innocent comics of yore but the muted background=20 subtly reveals grim reality. Later he uses his talent for expressive=20 recognizable faces to give that icon of the Silver Age, Jackie Gleason, a c= ameo. Millar is presenting a tale epic in scope and for those wishing to enhance= =20 the sense-of-wonder factor, they should check out his FANTASTIC FOUR and=20 WOLVERINE. Easily the best of the current reigning power-trio titles from m= ighty=20 Marvel. FANTASTIC FOUR #558=20 Writer: Mark Millar=20 Pencils & cover by Bryan Hitch When Ben Grimm defends Doc Doom you KNOW you are in for another innovative= =20 attempt by Millar to make the FANTASTIC FOUR Marvel's flagship team title=20 again. Doom seeks out his old nemesis for help. Of course there is mayhem. = The=20 whole tale takes place in a couple hours time but it is impressive how much= =20 storytelling gets accomplished. Millar is at his best when crafting these "= day=20 in the life" storylines.=20 Like the Lee/Kirby days, subplots abound. There is more to Johnny Storm's=20 newest girlfriend than meets the eye. Plus the new nanny is not all what sh= e=20 seems to be.=20 The stunning ending promises that the next issue will be even better than=20 this one. Hopefully you read the beginning of the =E2=80=9COld Man Logan=E2= =80=9D epic in last=20 week=E2=80=99s WOLVERINE because part of the fun is trying to decipher the = clues to=20 how these two stories connect. **************Get fantasy football with free=3D2 0live scoring. Sign up for=20 FanHouse Fantasy Football today.=20 (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ditkomania@aol.com Sat Jul 19 07:50:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ditkomania@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16749 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 14:50:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 14:50:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 14:50:41 -0000 X-Received: from Ditkomania@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.cdb.37952c3c (42805) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:50:36 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ditkomania@aol.com Subject: Why is being a DC fan like being obese? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=21510530; y=E5Bk0PaPoW3rJlULARyHbgBgn_mJvmK3oMeA4pRQcaGlfPvCNm388Mtz X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neither one has to be a permanent affliction. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat Jul 19 09:59:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 521 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2008 16:59:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2008 16:59:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2008 16:59:04 -0000 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bf8.34d1e3ef (37045) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB033-90b548821d4032a; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:40 -0400 X-Received: from webmail-db04 (webmail-db04.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.69]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA025-5bb648821d3d359; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:37 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:36 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.65.176 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.65.176 by webmail-db04.sysops.aol.com (205.188.105.69) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:58:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7D7D2014298-1B8C-11A9@webmail-db04.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why is being a DC fan like being obese? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=3gmumg6gGj2GKr0nkbdasIXpOiHaY6VxH7YmdBTo2PvULA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hahahahaha...stay tuned for more of the comic stylings of Bill Hall, right here on this Yahoo group. And please, try the fish! GJ -----Original Message----- From: Ditkomania@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:50 am Subject: [cbzines] Why is being a DC fan like being obese? Neither one has to be a permanent affliction. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 07:16:52 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 73020 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n29b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.250) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n29.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:51 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12825 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 00:23:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jul 2008 00:23:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.184) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 00:23:05 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 6649 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2008 00:23:04 -0000 X-Received: from [71.246.126.140] by web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:04 -0700 (PDT) To: bacvolunteers@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <948578.6622.qm@web36307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Reply-To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Subject:OT: Low-cost hotel reservation for San Diego Comic Con on Ebay! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=G58FpklZcsAvVINoDAsD7t0aKpS6Vo6nSR8VHpyYB73VucDU14RJBPc X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 20 Jul 2008 14:16:50 -0000 Hey folks, though I'm not going to the=A0San Diego Comic Con=A0this year, but I did notice that there is an auction up for a reservation at the Days Inn there.=A0What is the hotel situation like there that folks would put a reservation up, and other folks would buy it? =A0 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D320276701036 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Fri Aug 01 20:14:44 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10997 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n51a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.145) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n51.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78332 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2008 23:57:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2008 23:57:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.234) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2008 23:57:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2008 23:57:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2008 23:57:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2008 23:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:57:16 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.234 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.43.40.184 From: "Rob Imes" Subject: Charlton Spotlight #6 released this week! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=xhR8aUO6s40Dts0S5oWDGeF96MxwL42RzJfflv0Fin6pYw X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 02 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0000 Just a note to say that the new issue of CHARLTON SPOTLIGHT came out=20 this week -- another beautiful issue! Congratulations to publisher=20 Michael Ambrose! I noticed that inside the issue there is an ad for the upcoming 50th=20 issue of Gene Kehoe's IT'S A FANZINE -- and a pic of the cover, which I=20 hadn't seen before! That looks to be the best issue of IAF ever. There's also a plug for my own Ditkomania fanzine in the letters page=20 which pleasantly took me by surprise. Many thanks, Mike! Anyway, if you like Charlton, or old comics in general, check it out...=20 You can get more info at www.charltonspotlight.com Rob Imes From errelbe@yahoo.com Tue Aug 05 10:33:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: errelbe@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30497 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.33) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n30.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:33:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CAB7BC71BA989C-1408-3F08@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 190.54.32.82 From: "roberto" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sales from the Real World X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=200211956; y=KRF-d8XstsDyBACtY1UdGW1JNx7ww_9q9teYY2hxjcJN8w X-Yahoo-Profile: errelbe about sales from the real world in Barnes & noble, amazon, bookstores, etc etc, which ones are the=20 big sellers? for what i heard, the most thing that sells there=20 (slapping hands on marvel and dc) is the naruto comics (yeah, they=20 called manga, but they are ocmics) paperbacks. So... Diamond is not the real world. only a distributor. Plus, how the internaitonal market on marvel & DC reprints worked?=20 which one sells more out there? i can say for experience thati n=20 South America (as an example) DC outsells Marvel always. In Spain=20 this the other way, with Marvel outselling DC always. So, this is not the real world...is a distribuitor form one country=20 of many roberto --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > >=20 > Still doesn't mean anything as far as I'm concerned.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ditkomania@... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 9:31 am > Subject: [cbzines] Sales from the Real World >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Diamond July Top 5 > 1 - SECRET INVASION #2 (180,000 copies) > 2- FINAL CRISIS #1 (142,000 copies) - should be fun following the=20 sales of=20 > this title > 3 - NEW AVENGERS #41 (106,000 copies) > 4 - AVENGERS/INVADERS #1 (105,000 copies) > 5 - INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #1 (102,000) >=20 > Diamond June Top 5 > 1- SECRET INVASION #1 (350,000 copies) > 2- NEW AVENGERS #40 (155,000 COPIES) > 3- DARK TOWER LONG ROAD HOME #2 (144,000 copies) > 4- MIGHTY AVENGERS #12 (136,000 copies) > 5- UNCANNY X-MEN #497 (130,000 copies) >=20 > Diamond May top 5 > 1- X-FORCE #1 (154,000 copies) > 2- NEW AVENGERS #38 (152,000 copies) > 3- AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #549 (148,000 copies) > 4- THOR #6 (144,000 copies) > 5 - ULTIMATES 3 #3 (140,000 copies)=20 >=20 >=20 > Well, at least DC is a critical success. >=20 >=20 >=20 > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up=20 for=20 > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.=20 > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From dirtracersradio@yahoo.com Tue Aug 05 12:57:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dirtracersradio@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97783 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2008 19:57:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2008 19:57:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.141) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2008 19:57:02 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2008 19:57:02 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2008 19:57:02 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2008 19:57:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:57:01 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.141 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.140.36.102 From: "dirtracersradio" Subject: Re: Charlton Spotlight #6 released this week! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333251836; y=SSJCVRy3xbwvRrW_JynpxnJR2VBfmCgvwF4vSKUqpNfZ7hkxalXIxZQQ X-Yahoo-Profile: dirtracersradio This has always been an outstanding magazine. Just keeps getting better=20 it appears. From ComicSnobb@aol.com Tue Aug 05 18:52:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ComicSnobb@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79703 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2008 01:52:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m51.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2008 01:52:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2008 01:52:21 -0000 X-Received: from ComicSnobb@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id r.bfd.3bcb6c34 (30737); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:52:14 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Cc: AnnCats@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: ComicSnobb@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sales from the Real World X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92749620; y=GHu-GLkfSKQDpI_ph8uT-Mx5WVUJv6h9MJU2t5C4yypafcHDVJyuepIr X-Yahoo-Profile: comicbookheaven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow - you can speak for all of South America. I AM impressed! Bill In a message dated 8/5/2008 1:34:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, errelbe@yahoo.com writes: Plus, how the internaitonal market on marvel & DC reprints worked? which one sells more out there? i can say for experience thati n South America (as an example) DC outsells Marvel always **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From captainmarvelculture@yahoo.com Sat Aug 30 12:10:51 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81824 invoked by uid 7800); 30 Aug 2008 19:10:50 -0000 X-Sender: captainmarvelculture@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33029 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 18:46:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2008 18:46:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36308.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.185) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 18:46:32 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 19777 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Aug 2008 18:46:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: RGsVwSAVM1nNbjQh5axqi5CLN6SjuFCvo_ZnEvRW_RGgjpHyf6oweviwsAMVtcrVt237zP9e3x.za70_dvl7Mi.8eH1oRgtafG93XgsGcPatVB8nBacDWGgs0P0uKuUsEuP8pMbJRC4XodRNDrjLfucE X-Received: from [71.246.118.118] by web36308.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:46:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) To: captainmarvelculture@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <63670.18606.qm@web36308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Zorikh Lequidre Reply-To: captainmarvelculture@yahoo.com Subject: New Captain Marvel Culture Blog Post - Genis X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=251690732; y=TlaH9OizgYFliy0YaWlRneBLwHjLyZ8h6AMtLrMaLX_J6L3H5KmQi_YPTvcKFsk X-Yahoo-Profile: captainmarvelculture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 30 Aug 2008 19:10:50 -0000 =A0 Hey folks. Sorry I missed a Captain Marvel Culture blog post this week. I w= as in the hospital with an infection in my leg. I will be on antibiotics fo= r the next two weeks, but the worst is past. In any event, here's the latest http://captainmarvelculture.blogspot.com/ I= t's about Genis-Vell, Marvel Comics' third Captain Marvel, with a passing m= ention of Phyla-Vell, their fourth. Please give it a look and post a comment of your thoughts. Captain Zorikh http://www.captainmarvelculture.com =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sun Sep 21 16:47:50 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49403 invoked by uid 7800); 21 Sep 2008 23:47:47 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14176 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2008 22:32:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2008 22:32:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.144) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2008 22:32:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2008 22:32:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2008 22:32:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:32:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.206.147.170 From: "GUY" Subject: Looking for some one to do art work for my fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=KCFVxQwbE_uAS8At9HyGVko2cl_nVWsUUXJPtCv7vz_dUjRKrmJPZg4 X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 21 Sep 2008 23:47:47 -0000 Hi i am looking for some one to turn a text story from my fanzine in to=20 comic strip form. thank you Capt'n G From Doc0715@aol.com Sun Sep 28 03:39:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3035 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2008 10:39:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2008 10:39:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2008 10:39:27 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2008 10:39:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2008 10:39:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:39:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 216.49.218.2 From: "Lance Boucher" Subject: Re: Looking for some one to do art work for my fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=7VPJJkhKlwbrfcisXwU5A8a8D5z4UdmNCPFtzvyqM6UrgDOVbslw_MMl X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor What kind of story and what was your fanzine called. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "GUY" wrote: > > Hi i am looking for some one to turn a text story from my fanzine in=20 to=20 > comic strip form. > thank you Capt'n G > From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Thu Oct 02 22:39:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20174 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2008 05:39:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2008 05:39:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.216) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2008 05:39:46 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2008 05:39:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2008 05:39:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:39:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.245.238.106 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: New TBT webcomic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=4AUtuffJb7ogWfQzm12m8g8Xph4zFnzBe7SVUION4S-OyA X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SUPERTEAM GX #5 is now up at comicspace.com and starts an epic saga that will leave many old fandom heroes dead or dying. 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Arkell 13 Linda Lane Clark NJ 07066 Gary From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat Nov 08 21:45:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48807 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2008 05:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Nov 2008 05:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.144) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2008 05:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2008 05:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2008 05:45:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:45:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.250.53.207 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: this week's new TBT webcomic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=h4CyrZU8zXsAlaS5265mP_PZPbXniJKhND6NWwv-dE-pLg X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Battle with GX Terrorist GARNER begins! ATLAS strikes! The final fate of DYNAMIC DYNAMO! The Return of OMNIMAN! The massacre of GX heroes by the brutal onslaught of THE FOUR HORSEMEN! And HERO INC... [:O] ...well...you have to see it to believe it! The penultimate episode in FULL COLOR in SUPERTEAM GX #10 on comicspace.com! PLUS: a new TBT video!!! click here: http://www.comicspace.com/tbt/comics.php?action=read&file_id=264631 ------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 05:50:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71139 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2008 13:50:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2008 13:50:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.101) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2008 13:50:52 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2008 13:50:52 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2008 13:50:52 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2008 13:50:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:50:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.242.139.225 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TBT webcomic wraps up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=89asM247mRYTKCQgEx13sSoyRIdA-5PwzyCPnq3v0hIRbA X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New TBT webcomic wraps up The Grand Finale! 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Click Here: http://www.comicspace.com/tbt/comics.php?action=read&file_id=265825 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 13:56:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97002 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2008 21:56:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2008 21:56:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.134) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2008 21:56:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2008 21:56:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2008 21:56:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:56:18 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.134 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.222.223 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: new TBT webcomic up! 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Why are we using all these exclamation marks! click here http://www.comicspace.com/tbt/comics.php?action=read&file_id=267500 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Wed Dec 03 15:58:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53251 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 23:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2008 23:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.129) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 23:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2008 23:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2008 23:58:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:58:46 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.47.126.95 From: "Rob Imes" Subject: The rewards of editing a fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=PjwiqAp87dXvA7XIwYWZJZW3UtXWIXymqcq2xofVcpUBuQ X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes This week was a reminder to me of how rewarding and how much fun it=20 can be to edit a comics fanzine (in my case, the zine "Ditkomania"). A day or two ago, I opened my mailbox to find a manila envelope from=20 longtime DM contributor Christoph Melchert. I assumed that it might=20 be the latest issue of his APA zine, Shockwave. Instead, it turned=20 out to be a new short article by him, written especially for=20 Ditkomania. I had been hoping to get Christoph back in the pages of=20 DM (since he had been a contributor since the very first issue, way=20 back in 1983), and voila, here it was in my mailbox.=20=20 Today, a few hours ago, I came home from work and opened my mailbox=20 to find a 6" x 9" envelope from artist Larry Blake. "Hmmm, what can=20 this be?" I wondered. Larry had sent me 3 covers to use for=20 Ditkomania in a similar package back around July so I wondered if=20 this package might contain another cover. Sure enough, it was, a=20 great original cover depicting Ditko himself at his drawing table,=20 surrounded by his heroic creations. Wow! I immediately photcopied=20 the drawing and folded the sheet to simulate what it would look like=20 as the front cover of an issue of DM. I'm anxious to print it up for=20 real, and interested in seeing how the other submissions I receive=20 will mesh with the tone set by the front cover. With contributors like these, it makes editing a fanzine a lot=20 easier, and a real pleasure and privilege to be a part of. I feel=20 lucky to be able to have this behind-the-scenes access to the=20 creation of an issue of Ditkomania. Rob Imes From robimes@yahoo.com Wed Dec 03 15:58:50 2008 X-Deleted-Message: yes X-Deletion-Info: i=1822;u=;t=1228348815;m=1358203144;s=2855212842; From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat Dec 06 15:56:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78617 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2008 23:56:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2008 23:56:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.123) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2008 23:56:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2008 23:56:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.88] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2008 23:56:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:56:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.123 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.242.141.29 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: Horror and Heroes... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=GO3i5FUMknFQxPjEbJaXfkfVU6aRfB3GJUehey_eOX5SCQ X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 3-in 1 tales of action, thrills and TERROR! TBT TRIPLED ACTION#1 with JIM THOMPSON'S Galligator...the she's big, she's bad, she's pissed off!!! Also The Raven soars again! The Nebulizer returns! Additional artwork by GEORGE McVEY! All free right on comicspace.com CLICK HERE: http://www.comicspace.com/tbt/comics.php?action=read&file_id=269166 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From iaf1952@yahoo.com Wed Dec 10 06:16:07 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19315 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2008 14:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2008 14:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n16b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.122) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2008 14:16:06 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2008 14:16:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.100] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2008 14:16:06 -0000 X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25341 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2008 07:40:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2008 07:40:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2008 07:40:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2008 07:40:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2008 07:40:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:40:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.222.50 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Golden Age of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=8aG4BbHsKAcO_M07kax46I5uwRtAYwQGwlkRutRCArnazg X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 10 Dec 2008 14:16:05 -0000 In glancing over Blake's list of classic fanzines with which he introduces this group, a bit of interesting trivia that ties three of those fanzines together occurred to me. In researching my "The Title, Numbering, and Editorial History of The Comic Reader" feature for It's A Fanzine #50, I learned that not once, not twice, but three times the editors intended to split TCR into two separate publications--the monthly On The Drawing Board pure newszine and The Comic Reader as a more dependably published quarterly article zine to compete with Alter Ego, which wasn't coming out on a regular schedule by then. TCR/OTDB's 3rd editor, Derrill Rothermich, was the first to propose this idea and put together a nice selection of material for the first quarterly issue of TCR, but then he was drafted into the army and, though others (specifically, Dave Kaler and Bob Schoenfeld) tried to carry through with his plans, they never came to fruition and there never was even one TCR article zine, as it continued as a newszine, bouncing back and forth between the two titles for several years. The material Rothermich had prepared for the new TCR #1 ended up in Schoenfeld's very popular Gosh Wow #1. Another strange but true story from the history of fanzines! IAF #50 contains 18 pages and three separate features on old fanzines in a section titled "Not Fade Away: In Honor Of Our Comic Fandom Roots", which I hope to make a regular feature in future IAFs. Gene Kehoe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Robert@BLBComics.com Thu Dec 11 08:05:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Robert@BLBComics.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42095 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2008 16:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m51.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Dec 2008 16:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.126) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2008 16:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2008 16:05:40 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.227] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2008 16:05:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:05:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.126 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.84.166.118 From: "Robert Beerbohm" Subject: Re: Golden Age of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252483439; y=vuJ6AQ2iwQ3eqpVQpXsJ8rfhJbGDTxZznjPJHn2uBOCN3aMz X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Hi Gene, Interesting stats re DR's tenure on TCR - he was ed of TCR right before i got a sub, but i got Gosh Wow 1 2 3 when they were new from Bob S in St Louis.=20 How do i go about ordering It's A Fanzine #50 i have been busy trying to stay afloat with broken hip joints (long story) stemming from being a passenger in a traffic accident 35 years ago, so i miss stuff some times. You might have already posted order info, and i apologize in advance if i missed it. Also, cannot find Blake's list you refer to. I would say the McGeehan lists were virtually complete - especially John being a "fanatic" tracking them all down - he even wanted multiple copies of my old zine FANZATION which ran 5 issues, later issues having contribs from Jerry Bails on fandom origins, contribs from Ted White and Jack Promo on EC fandom stuff, Bill Wallace on the origins of Houston fandom, a neat piece by SF guru Robert Weinberg threading an Uncle Scroge bio how he made his fortune from reading his set some years before the Jack Chalker Uncle Scrooge came out a nifty letter from Steve Ditko in #3 (1969) concerning creativity which Wertham quoted in his World of Fanzines (1974). Wertham was a subscriber also, calling my house to get a sub following our first RBCC advert, scaring (at first) this then-high school student that the author of SOTI was now coming after us comic book fans, but he reassured me such was not the case. Wertham was coming to the conclusion that he might have been a bit harsh re SOTI's impact, etc since he followed fandom in the hidden sidelines seeing how we were turning out - his fanzine book basically exonerated "us". I wish i still had the letters Wertham and i exchanged for some time as we discussed SOTI and the then-power of comics in America, but, alas, they were destroyed in a warehouse flood in 1986. Ditko's letter was a consolation prize when he called us up asking us not to publish the phone interview we had recently done with him that year which covered why he left Marvel, citing promised royalties from Martin Goodman. How he tried to get Kirby to walk out the door at the same time, solidarity might have gotten Goodman's attention he thought He explained in that phone interview Steve Johnson and i did that year his drive for royalties began when Spidey merch began to be issued, when the negotiations for the Saturday morning TV cartoons were under way, then his Ann Rand readings got in the way, we got Mr A instead, which i first saw in Witzend, then Gluckson's GUTS #5 (i think it was) anyway, i got a bit side tracked - you jogged some memories best robert beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art www.BLBcomics.com eBaystore: BLB COMICS 01 402 727 4071 mostly 9 AM to 6 PM daily - Leave a message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Dec 11 08:35:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4816 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2008 16:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Dec 2008 16:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2008 16:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id r.d53.3b48d9a3 (41809) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:35:02 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5331 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Golden Age of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:06:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Robert@BLBComics.com writes: <> This was confirmed a few years ago when Mark Evanier was going through Jack Kirby's files and found that Kirby still had the letter which Steve Ditko sent him in 1966 stating that they were being maltreated and should quit together. But Kirby believed (falsely) that Marvel was going to make good with him. It wasn't until Marvel was sold that he found that Goodman had not included his promises to Kirby in the contract with the new owners and Jack was left high and dry by new owners who didn't feel they owed Kirby anything beyond his page rate. Jack had also been promised a lot of money when he helped Marvel stave off Joe Simon's attempt to get ownership of Captain America in the late 1960s. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From iaf1952@yahoo.com Thu Dec 11 18:06:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57703 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:06:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.221.4 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Re: Golden Age of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=Xx4JVCCiJtFAH7RLSXLnBUIyW2kYI5Q1OLwGAtnZC2tTsQ X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 Great stuff there, Robert! Those stories about Wertham, Ditko, and the early days of fandom are the kind of reminiscences I love to hear. Wertham turned out to have a very positive attitude towards fans producing fanzines, and I'm sure your correspondence with him contributed to that in a big way. Wertham was a dirty word in '60s fandom. What was his reaction to the way comic fans villified him? I heard from Derrill Rothermich last week. He just ordered a copy of IT'S A FANZINE #50. Maybe after he receives it I can get him to talk a bit about his memories of producing some of those early issues of TCR/OTDB. And about what he's been doing for the past 40+ years. Blake's list that I referred to was his list of fanzines on the home page for this group. IAF #50 is $5 ppd in the USA, mailed 1st class in an envelope. You can PayPal me payment if you like. My ID is fangene at aol.com. (I typed it that way since I can't type an e-mail address here). You could also just send check, cash, or money order to my home address, and I'll give you that if you want it. By the way, any fanzine lists McGeehan did as separate publications are IMPOSSIBLE to find. I have a lot of his review lists in TCR and other zines, but can never lay my hands on any "complete fanzine index" pubs he did. I'm pretty sure he did one or two. And speaking of scarce, any copies of your five issues of FANZATION are impossible to find. Ever consider reprinting them? I and I'm sure others would love to see them (but if they're ditto pubs are they even reproducable?). GOSH WOW #3 is a tough one, too. I have #1 & 2 but don't think I've ever seen #3. Keep the memories coming, Bob! --Gene Kehoe --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Beerbohm" wrote: > > Hi Gene, > Interesting stats re DR's tenure on TCR - he was ed of TCR right > before i got a sub, but i got Gosh Wow 1 2 3 when they were new from > Bob S in St Louis. > > How do i go about ordering It's A Fanzine #50 > > i have been busy trying to stay afloat with broken hip joints (long > story) stemming from being a passenger in a traffic accident 35 years > ago, so i miss stuff some times. You might have already posted order > info, and i apologize in advance if i missed it. > > Also, cannot find Blake's list you refer to. > > I would say the McGeehan lists were virtually complete - especially > John being a "fanatic" tracking them all down - he even wanted > multiple copies of my old zine FANZATION which ran 5 issues, later > issues having contribs from Jerry Bails on fandom origins, contribs > from Ted White and Jack Promo on EC fandom stuff, Bill Wallace on the > origins of Houston fandom, a neat piece by SF guru Robert Weinberg > threading an Uncle Scroge bio how he made his fortune from reading his > set some years before the Jack Chalker Uncle Scrooge came out > > a nifty letter from Steve Ditko in #3 (1969) concerning creativity > which Wertham quoted in his World of Fanzines (1974). Wertham was a > subscriber also, calling my house to get a sub following our first > RBCC advert, scaring (at first) this then-high school student that the > author of SOTI was now coming after us comic book fans, but he > reassured me such was not the case. > > Wertham was coming to the conclusion that he might have been a bit > harsh re SOTI's impact, etc since he followed fandom in the hidden > sidelines seeing how we were turning out - his fanzine book basically > exonerated "us". > > I wish i still had the letters Wertham and i exchanged for some time > as we discussed SOTI and the then-power of comics in America, but, > alas, they were destroyed in a warehouse flood in 1986. > > Ditko's letter was a consolation prize when he called us up asking us > not to publish the phone interview we had recently done with him that > year which covered why he left Marvel, citing promised royalties from > Martin Goodman. How he tried to get Kirby to walk out the door at the > same time, solidarity might have gotten Goodman's attention he thought > > He explained in that phone interview Steve Johnson and i did that year > his drive for royalties began when Spidey merch began to be issued, > when the negotiations for the Saturday morning TV cartoons were under > way, then his Ann Rand readings got in the way, we got Mr A instead, > which i first saw in Witzend, then Gluckson's GUTS #5 (i think it was) > > anyway, i got a bit side tracked - you jogged some memories > > best > > robert beerbohm > > Robert Beerbohm Comic Art > www.BLBcomics.com > eBaystore: BLB COMICS > 01 402 727 4071 mostly 9 AM to 6 PM daily - Leave a message > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate > From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat Dec 20 15:23:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77295 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2008 23:23:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Dec 2008 23:23:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.129) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2008 23:23:57 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2008 23:23:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Dec 2008 23:23:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:23:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.249.213.155 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: The Warman Cometh! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=cAt4PTK4apszi0y-QxRwqWzSM4mUTI5DQRzovj40U-AvRg X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Who or WHAT is Warman Fuzzae?!?!? Find out in TBT TRIPLED ACTION #3, a free webcomic on Click here for Warman Fuzzae! PLUS: Updated gallery with 20 pieces of comic art by various artists including Lane, Pettit, Ruppel, Cortes Ortiz , Cooke, Jones and um....another Cooke! CLICK HERE! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Tue Jan 06 14:52:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68325 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2009 22:52:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2009 22:52:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2009 22:52:54 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2009 22:52:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.35] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2009 22:52:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:52:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.195.144 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: GLOCK #5 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=Ry3efmXXcXdv1JWYRQVZBQul0hqrYd7ucUX3ECnk0uMgYw X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The latest TBT web comic book reveals the origin of GLOCK, plus contains long lost material from 1982! Cover by George McVey & Stan Kirby! In COLOR on !!! Click here! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue Jan 13 05:59:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24570 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2009 13:59:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2009 13:59:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.126) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2009 13:59:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 13:59:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 13:59:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:59:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.126 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.165.158.125 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: Small Press Idol 2009 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=e3aLimfIhER176PPHT8aTw-c_K2cD5y_j0fkATYqRPM5IQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Hi there! It's that time again, Small Press Idol is about to land. This year, we have a number of guideline changes, based on contestant suggestions and requests. But the big news this year is that we have as co-sponsor for the contest, Haven Distribution...and together, the Small Press Idol books will all be offered to comic shops for the first time. We've also upped the cash payout this year for the winner (we're STARTING at $200 this year, PLUS half of the entry fees), and added pay-out potential for all Mysterious Visions appearances. The dreaded Veto process has been completely changed, and the Judges will now vote before a round begins, and we will give the projects the chance to prove the judges wrong. Judges will not be able to move up projects that didn't get enough votes to move on in a round. So we'd like to invite everyone to come see this year's Idol Homepage (which includes a new Idol Impact section which shows all of the books that small press has helped launch over the years), we're expecting this to be our biggest year ever. We're touting this year as "American Idol, meets The Apprentice", so if you're an amateur comic creator - and you want to get some real advice from Judges who know what it takes to make it, test your meddle and make some great friends along the way - Then Idol is here. Our 6th year! If you're just looking for new and upcoming talent to check out, great! We'll have plenty of eye candy for you as well. If anyone has any questions, I'll be looking for them and be around to answer. http://www.dimestoreproductions.com/content287.html Ian Shires Ian@dimestoreproductions.com=20 From jimblasko@yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 15:09:28 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95247 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2009 23:09:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2009 23:09:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n48a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.142) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2009 23:09:26 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 23:09:26 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 23:09:26 -0000 X-Sender: jimblasko@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40581 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2009 23:08:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Jan 2009 23:08:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n14d.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.237) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2009 23:08:11 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n14.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 23:08:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2009 23:08:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:08:09 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.237 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.108.27.118 From: "jimblasko" Subject: Question about issue 109, 110, 111, 112 - Comic Reader Fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=335343735; y=OXrwQZzCEKDYNux7xNL1455zEAECajRmIQZbpxCssHA7v_GY X-Yahoo-Profile: jimblasko X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 13 Jan 2009 23:09:24 -0000 Hey does anyone know if any of these issues covered the incredible hulk=20 181 release?=20 Thank You, Jim Blasko From iaf1952@yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 21:05:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 408 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.112] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:05:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.208.223 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Re: Question about issue 109, 110, 111, 112 - Comic Reader Fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=1yKy5650SYtISUBGLjbQW0oG3jljraaog0tVIhJ0UBpKDA X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 In checking through my TCRs, Hulk #181 was listed as a Coming=20 Comic in TCR #109, previewed like this: Canada is represented by a=20 new super-hero in "And Now the Wolverine" by Len Wein, Herb Trimpe=20 and Jack Abel. (7/30).=20 So it's release date was July 30, 1974. Hope this helps. In that=20 same issue the formation of Atlas/Seaboard was announced. It was=20 reported then that "a number of the books are established characters-- in fact, one book is planned as a 100 page 60center with reprints=20 from a former comics group...this looks like a comics group that will=20 make it, and big." Oops! And those established characters consisted=20 of...Vicki?! Gene Kehoe --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "jimblasko" =20 wrote: > > Hey does anyone know if any of these issues covered the incredible=20 hulk=20 > 181 release?=20 >=20 > Thank You, > Jim Blasko > From robimes@yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 21:37:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15002 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2009 05:37:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2009 05:37:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.211) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2009 05:37:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8227 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2009 05:37:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Vx3z.4kVM1lyglrT_ugFBS347bwFT6mrjpMYFt_QGud3WLziZP093I.KbYByZtp6rAwvQibZNM1__XtOhuMM0Fxzc4kNxUmYvRfNrGw7_LlKJykTtNGIphLBwVXoW9B4X9YmRDDAlhnaewRXMPJQAhjaOcEi1bkpeQ2zaupw9lKn_fsAMMT.jCH9Us8kAJdQf6aATnzWrtftfSH_SZIu_qetUvkLIHkxMqjgMQ-- X-Received: from [69.14.103.196] by web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:37:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:37:24 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <449418.8045.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.211 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Question about issue 109, 110, 111, 112 - Comic Reader Fanzine X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=foeYGhjGuu3vQVdOtH74XzDpVx-2Ltea9n_QtbLWGIv_oQ X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes Hey Gene, It's an interesting idea for a research project: how Wolverine was thought of (by both fandom & Marvel) before he became the famous (infamous?) fan-favorite character. I wonder do The Comic Reader issues of that period mention anything interesting about Ditko's work for Atlas-Seabord? I'm planning on printing an illo from Mediascene in the next Ditkomania showing the character Wrecage which Ditko drew for Atlas but which wasn't published by them. Rob Imes --- On Wed, 1/14/09, iaf1952 wrote: > From: iaf1952 > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Question about issue 109, 110, 111, 112 - Comic Reader Fanzine > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:05 AM > In checking through my TCRs, Hulk #181 was listed as a > Coming > Comic in TCR #109, previewed like this: Canada is > represented by a > new super-hero in "And Now the Wolverine" by Len > Wein, Herb Trimpe > and Jack Abel. (7/30). > So it's release date was July 30, 1974. Hope this > helps. In that > same issue the formation of Atlas/Seaboard was announced. > It was > reported then that "a number of the books are > established characters-- > in fact, one book is planned as a 100 page 60center with > reprints > from a former comics group...this looks like a comics group > that will > make it, and big." Oops! And those established > characters consisted > of...Vicki?! > Gene Kehoe > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, > "jimblasko" > wrote: > > > > Hey does anyone know if any of these issues covered > the incredible > hulk > > 181 release? > > > > Thank You, > > Jim Blasko > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From ninthnebula10@yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 12:14:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: ninthnebula10@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 81735 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2009 20:14:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2009 20:14:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.123) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2009 20:14:45 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2009 20:14:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2009 20:14:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:14:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.123 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.141.55.32 From: "Rob" Subject: Sad News X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31159633; y=C7saAu4ciGmqYj5lhhXR18SZNsM6IaqCMQ0Tc_6vFqbNhN-k0FKyag X-Yahoo-Profile: ninthnebula10 Actor Patrick McGoohan, 'The Prisoner,' dead at 80=20 Recommend Comments=20 January 14, 2009 BY ANDREW DALTON Associated Press=20 LOS ANGELES =97 Patrick McGoohan, the Emmy-winning actor who created=20 and starred in the cult classic television show "The Prisoner," has=20 died. He was 80. McGoohan died Tuesday in Los Angeles after a short illness, his son- in-law, film producer Cleve Landsberg, said. =20 Patrick McGoohan as he appeared in the 1960s in "No. 6." McGoohan won two Emmys for his work on the Peter Falk detective=20 drama "Columbo," and more recently appeared as King Edward Longshanks=20 in the 1995 Mel Gibson film "Braveheart." But he was most famous as the character known only as Number Six=20 in "The Prisoner," a sci-fi tinged 1960s British series in which a=20 former spy is held captive in a small enclave known only as The=20 Village, where a mysterious authority named Number One constantly=20 prevents his escape. McGoohan came up with the concept and wrote and directed several=20 episodes of the show, which has kept a devoted following in the=20 United States and Europe for four decades. Born in New York on March 19, 1928, McGoohan was raised in England=20 and Ireland, where his family moved shortly after his birth. He had a=20 busy stage career before moving to television, and won a London Drama=20 Critics Award for playing the title role in the Henrik Ibsen=20 play "Brand." He married stage actress Joan Drummond in 1951. The oldest of their=20 three daughters, Catherine, is also an actress. His first foray into TV was in 1964 in the series "Danger Man," a=20 more straightforward spy show that initially lasted just one season=20 but was later brought back for three more when its popularity =97 and=20 McGoohan's =97 exploded in reruns. Weary of playing the show's lead John Drake, McGoohan pitched to=20 producers the surreal and cerebral "The Prisoner" to give himself a=20 challenge. The series ran just one season and 17 episodes in 1967, but its=20 cultural impact remains. He voiced his Number Six character in an episode of "The Simpsons" in=20 2000. The show is being remade as a series for AMC that premieres=20 later this year. "His creation of 'The Prisoner' made an indelible mark on the sci-fi,=20 fantasy and political thriller genres, creating one of the most=20 iconic characters of all time," AMC said in a statement=20 Wednesday. "AMC hopes to honor his legacy in our re-imagining of 'The=20 Prisoner."' Later came smaller roles in film and television. McGoohan won Emmys=20 for guest spots on "Columbo" 16 years apart, in 1974 and 1990. He also appeared as a warden in the 1979 Clint Eastwood film "Escape=20 from Alcatraz" and as a judge in the 1996 John Grisham courtroom=20 drama "A Time To Kill." His last major role was in "Braveheart," in what The Associated Press=20 called a "standout" performance as the brutal king who battles=20 Scottish freedom fighter William Wallace, played by Gibson. In his review of the film for the Los Angeles Times critic Peter=20 Rainer said "McGoohan is in possession of perhaps the most villainous=20 enunciation in the history of acting." McGoohan is survived by his wife and three daughters. From greene68@yahoo.com Thu Jan 15 11:54:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38978 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2009 19:54:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2009 19:54:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.18) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2009 19:54:39 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 76932 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2009 19:54:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 14gdimkVM1lJem8XiX25SldS11kHR.i1c8o2GO5Lr01BdSWzsdHQJwAncbEB_Q.8lQRfM.yqiEyBxjK3kF5G6MCIqMhu5g4zgDk6Qj6N_OgyuVUKnMSVB5DZbv_GUqkB.JXmFOoDEB1W2HXIU6uwAwQFAK7PykFGuHaRDkZBApEBFwNcT2JSYhKIOWXmHNJgQbM.w5zKmbk0d0zKRxsCGUataA2EMI.HwpiEasWQD43kgGQt170PANehRvFABLHsCgeZDQ-- X-Received: from [98.228.122.139] by web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:54:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:54:38 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <513300.76267.qm@web52908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.18 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Reply-To: greene68@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Sad News X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=DendIwfRUUscGwCOQ1wPggnZWFG2UTV8CD0roskG5IcIXps X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the news about McGoohan (aka, "Secret Agent"). I always enjoyed = his work, including his role as the criminal mastermind in the Gene Wilder-= Richard Pryor comedy adventure,=A0"Silver Streak." =A0 Keith Greene South Bend, IN =A0 --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Rob wrote: From: Rob Subject: [cbzines] Sad News To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 3:14 PM Actor Patrick McGoohan, 'The Prisoner,' dead at 80=20 Recommend Comments=20 January 14, 2009 BY ANDREW DALTON Associated Press=20 LOS ANGELES =97 Patrick McGoohan, the Emmy-winning actor who created=20 and starred in the cult classic television show "The Prisoner," has=20 died. He was 80. McGoohan died Tuesday in Los Angeles after a short illness, his son- in-law, film producer Cleve Landsberg, said. Patrick McGoohan as he appeared in the 1960s in "No. 6." McGoohan won two Emmys for his work on the Peter Falk detective=20 drama "Columbo," and more recently appeared as King Edward Longshanks=20 in the 1995 Mel Gibson film "Braveheart. " But he was most famous as the character known only as Number Six=20 in "The Prisoner," a sci-fi tinged 1960s British series in which a=20 former spy is held captive in a small enclave known only as The=20 Village, where a mysterious authority named Number One constantly=20 prevents his escape. McGoohan came up with the concept and wrote and directed several=20 episodes of the show, which has kept a devoted following in the=20 United States and Europe for four decades. Born in New York on March 19, 1928, McGoohan was raised in England=20 and Ireland, where his family moved shortly after his birth. He had a=20 busy stage career before moving to television, and won a London Drama=20 Critics Award for playing the title role in the Henrik Ibsen=20 play "Brand." He married stage actress Joan Drummond in 1951. The oldest of their=20 three daughters, Catherine, is also an actress. His first foray into TV was in 1964 in the series "Danger Man," a=20 more straightforward spy show that initially lasted just one season=20 but was later brought back for three more when its popularity =97 and=20 McGoohan's =97 exploded in reruns. Weary of playing the show's lead John Drake, McGoohan pitched to=20 producers the surreal and cerebral "The Prisoner" to give himself a=20 challenge. The series ran just one season and 17 episodes in 1967, but its=20 cultural impact remains. He voiced his Number Six character in an episode of "The Simpsons" in=20 2000. The show is being remade as a series for AMC that premieres=20 later this year. "His creation of 'The Prisoner' made an indelible mark on the sci-fi,=20 fantasy and political thriller genres, creating one of the most=20 iconic characters of all time," AMC said in a statement=20 Wednesday. "AMC hopes to honor his legacy in our re-imagining of 'The=20 Prisoner."' Later came smaller roles in film and television. McGoohan won Emmys=20 for guest spots on "Columbo" 16 years apart, in 1974 and 1990. He also appeared as a warden in the 1979 Clint Eastwood film "Escape=20 from Alcatraz" and as a judge in the 1996 John Grisham courtroom=20 drama "A Time To Kill." His last major role was in "Braveheart, " in what The Associated Press=20 called a "standout" performance as the brutal king who battles=20 Scottish freedom fighter William Wallace, played by Gibson. In his review of the film for the Los Angeles Times critic Peter=20 Rainer said "McGoohan is in possession of perhaps the most villainous=20 enunciation in the history of acting." McGoohan is survived by his wife and three daughters. =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Sat Jan 31 18:57:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42403 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 02:57:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2009 02:57:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 02:57:33 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2009 02:57:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.35] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2009 02:57:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:57:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.47.118.140 From: "Rob Imes" Subject: New issue of COMIC EFFECT (#47) now available! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=0khI_cXHZpHzkDS390Gfxidh-kR_jAyi__uZBHlrXIlTgQ X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes Hi folks, Just a heads-up to let people know that the new issue (#47) of Jim=20 Kingman's long-running comics fanzine COMICS EFFECT was just released! This issue's cover feature is "Schwartz's Greatest Hits," where many=20 pros like Paul Levitz, Carl Gafford, Jack C. Harris, Roy Thomas, and=20 others list their all-time favorite Julius Schwartz-edited comics.=20=20 Jim Kingman himself also provides a lengthy examination of an=20 overlooked Green Lantern run (GL #49-75) which was Hal Jordan's=20 first "road trip" (before the more famous one he undertook at the end=20 of GL/GA #76). Plus there are reviews and articles about some other classic DC=20 comics this issue. The front and back covers are drawn by Ed Quinby. In his editorial, Jim says he'd like to cover some non-DC comics in=20 the next issue (since this issue was all-DC) and provided some=20 suggestions for reader submissions. I'm planning to submit something=20 myself (though not about any of the topics Jim suggested)! COMIC EFFECT #47 is a 52-page B&W digest-size fanzine available for=20 $3.50 postpaid from Jim Kingman, P.O. Box 2188, Pasadena, CA 91102- 2188.=20=20 Rob From Cartomancer@netzero.net Sat Jan 31 20:49:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: cartomancer@netzero.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22297 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 04:49:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2009 04:49:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail.dca.untd.com) (64.136.47.15) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 04:49:13 -0000 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true X-Received: from yourc8bh3jaglt (09-059.158.popsite.net [66.19.205.59]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABE2LLPYA4NUVUA for (sender ); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:48:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01c98428$63983ed0$3bcd1342@yourc8bh3jaglt> To: References: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:48:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ContentStamp: 24:12:3461615039 X-MAIL-INFO:12a450345034d4a5d46df4d494f4cd0c45c189b539b5b9f9f5890970fd541db019b5a5a4d599ad70d114dd242494f4d014a4c4e4f4b93441ad2d6181610d45250d45008145357d650185e5f57519a074d99580f0bd39d975746909b1bdb12140b4c965bd494d1181212120eda911b18d91ed89f5b5c5ed89549524f9c0d154b5f9507014a534d134a01dd0d5fd35a924a584c4f4d4d4559d7dc49441019de4cdad25fd605105e4e44174e9740505a16105e0f015c069040d610d09d90c21 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: XEwTkB0Gb2ylLP24TK+A7tj8j9F8p5VzP6b2+NLaU7P73pFaTxPxqkImmuz0Qe3H X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.42.34|smtpout04.dca.untd.com|smtpout04.dca.untd.com|cartomancer@netzero.net X-Originating-IP: 64.136.47.15 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Cartomancer" Subject: Re: [cbzines] New issue of COMIC EFFECT (#47) now available! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=42152162; y=jvVmXcFnWCviKTQMrP6xRTAPBiN9U_voobMgY7C6Md0G75buMDw Speaking of Schwartz comics, I have an interview with Murphy Anderson in the latest STARLOG--covering his SF stuff for DC. In comic shops now. --Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Imes" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: [cbzines] New issue of COMIC EFFECT (#47) now available! > Hi folks, > > Just a heads-up to let people know that the new issue (#47) of Jim > Kingman's long-running comics fanzine COMICS EFFECT was just released! > > This issue's cover feature is "Schwartz's Greatest Hits," where many > pros like Paul Levitz, Carl Gafford, Jack C. Harris, Roy Thomas, and > others list their all-time favorite Julius Schwartz-edited comics. > > Jim Kingman himself also provides a lengthy examination of an > overlooked Green Lantern run (GL #49-75) which was Hal Jordan's > first "road trip" (before the more famous one he undertook at the end > of GL/GA #76). > > Plus there are reviews and articles about some other classic DC > comics this issue. The front and back covers are drawn by Ed Quinby. > > In his editorial, Jim says he'd like to cover some non-DC comics in > the next issue (since this issue was all-DC) and provided some > suggestions for reader submissions. I'm planning to submit something > myself (though not about any of the topics Jim suggested)! > > COMIC EFFECT #47 is a 52-page B&W digest-size fanzine available for > $3.50 postpaid from Jim Kingman, P.O. Box 2188, Pasadena, CA 91102- > 2188. > > Rob > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sat Mar 14 03:18:16 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 37743 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2009 10:18:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2009 10:18:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2009 10:18:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1237025893; bh=QJMHlSY8OT6S4j2bG2q0IchGbc6OYYPJ2qIl556ZeuU=; h=Received:Received:Date:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Auth:X-eGroups-Application:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jwZFzVmAhvmY28JbA/fcxM9DpsdQvVicKwMsgfS5PuO3y4v1DD7OUjNogE6TpvMmwaoy/uyIcXPuA4Lf8zzimS4h28yNG2uHmkrsMb8tcCXX1H+82wWwCGqZmqAlsBcK Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2009 10:18:13 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.186] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2009 10:18:13 -0000 Date: 14 Mar 2009 10:18:13 -0000 Message-ID: <1237025893.25567.64059.w10@yahoogroups.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Application: files X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines group. File : /iaf500001.jpg Uploaded by : iaf1952 Description : It's A Fanzine #50 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/iaf500001.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, iaf1952 From iaf1952@yahoo.com Sat Mar 14 03:52:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20595 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2009 10:52:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2009 10:52:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.126) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2009 10:52:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2009 10:52:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2009 10:52:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:52:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1237025893.25567.64059.w10@yahoogroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.126 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.222.50 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Re: New file uploaded to comicbookfanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=KrMokq_wHmY114twcCfaCfMQdpM5ZkK2_Lcq-ZyiwgC8qg X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The recently published special 50th issue of It's A Fanzine (see color cover uploaded to file) features a new 16 page section devoted to the classic fanzines of old. Titled Not Fade Away: In Honor of Our Fandom Roots, #50 offers a fascinating discussion among Jerry Bails, Howard Keltner, Biljo White, and Rick Weingroff about the Golden and Silver Ages of Comics reprinted from Herndon's Hero #4; The Title, Numbering, and Editorial History of The Comic Reader; and A Comics Fanzine Index, Part One (A-C), which gives the title, issue #s, years, and editor of every comics fanzine that began publishing from 1935-1971. #50 also has nine features on the 1950s, including The Sapient Saga of Speed Carter, Spaceman; Superman in Panic In the Sky/The Menace From the Stars; Captain Marvel vs. Thor, Round One; The Charlton Giants of 1958 with a complete checklist and centerspread; Fifties' First Issue Face-Off; Meet Chester Gould; and A 1959 Lesson From Steve Ditko. 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Contact me separately for other payment information or with questions. -- Gene Kehoe, editor It's A Fanzine -- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the comicbookfanzines > group. > > File : /iaf500001.jpg > Uploaded by : iaf1952 iaf1952@... > Description : It's A Fanzine #50 > > You can access this file at the URL: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicbookfanzines/files/iaf500001.jpg > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlf\ iles > > Regards, > > iaf1952 iaf1952@... > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat Mar 21 16:54:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36052 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 23:52:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2009 23:52:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2009 23:52:01 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2009 23:52:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2009 23:52:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:51:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.242.138.50 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: new TBT online comic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=Cj0wQ85ZKlWRB6umHhyhP1Ern17vYgEBkIZdwgZ_cLmlpQ X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SUPERTEAM GX #3 is FREE, in color and on ! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From freakgenesis23@yahoo.com Tue Apr 14 16:21:17 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18133 invoked by uid 7800); 14 Apr 2009 23:21:14 -0000 X-Sender: freakgenesis23@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53591 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2009 23:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2009 23:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.126) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2009 23:16:19 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2009 23:16:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2009 23:16:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:16:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.126 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.19.148.66 From: "freakgenesis23" Subject: questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=189696618; y=W1W5BZ3EiXv3r7ug0heR-TXH3E6mO6Byhcyt1hV9ddEGxp6rueHG0t8 X-Yahoo-Profile: freakgenesis23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 14 Apr 2009 23:21:14 -0000 hi! i just joined this group, and i wanted to throw a question out there for yo= u because i'm trying to put together a solid collection of george metzger's= work and i know that he did a good deal of work in fanzines in the 60s/70s= , but it's work that i can't really find a solid list or bibliography of at= all, and i don't know whether any of it's been reprinted. most of the und= erground comics sites on the net (and, to be fair, there are some pretty im= pressive ones) don't list his fanzine work at all, just his underground stu= ff (except for promethean enterprises, which is more of an underground orie= nted fanzine anyway, and has crumb stuff in it, so everybody pays attention= ). what i know of are the stories in=20 fantasy illustrated 7 graphic story magazine 8, 9, 13 & 16 promethean enterprises 1-5 and star studded comics 11 (which i found out about by searching the archives here). are there others? while i love his work and i am interested secondarily in= his illustrations in fanzines, i'm mainly looking for the more narrative s= tories than spot-illo stuff, though if anyone's willing to help me out on t= his as well, i'd appreciate it a lot. i really have little idea where to e= ven begin to serious look for this information, and that's why i joined the= list today, because i figured that collectively or separately, the members= of this group would probably be able to know. again, i really appreciate = what help you could offer me, and i thank you a lot. this is just for my p= ersonal collection, i'm not affiliated with anyone, blah blah blah. thanks= , everyone. victor scott From iaf1952@yahoo.com Tue Apr 14 18:05:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76137 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 01:05:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 01:05:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 01:05:36 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 01:04:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 01:04:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:04:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.221.2 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Re: questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=x2SWAPr_TipheC02bsXsGh23NvANedfYWE8Hdh1Pm5sG2Q X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 My main exposure to Metzger (at least in fanzines and not UGs), was in Robert Schoenfeld's GOSH WOW! In #2 (1968) Metzger did a pair of 2-page wordless stories he titled "Variations On A Theme", plus he has a very long letter in #2. Then in #3 (1969) he introduced Moondog with a 20-page story and back cover. These show up occasionally on eBay and sell for around $20 each. -- Gene Kehoe, editor IT'S A FANZINE --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "freakgenesis23" wrote: > > hi! > > i just joined this group, and i wanted to throw a question out there for you because i'm trying to put together a solid collection of george metzger's work and i know that he did a good deal of work in fanzines in the 60s/70s, but it's work that i can't really find a solid list or bibliography of at all, and i don't know whether any of it's been reprinted. most of the underground comics sites on the net (and, to be fair, there are some pretty impressive ones) don't list his fanzine work at all, just his underground stuff (except for promethean enterprises, which is more of an underground oriented fanzine anyway, and has crumb stuff in it, so everybody pays attention). what i know of are the stories in > fantasy illustrated 7 > graphic story magazine 8, 9, 13 & 16 > promethean enterprises 1-5 > and > star studded comics 11 > (which i found out about by searching the archives here). > are there others? while i love his work and i am interested secondarily in his illustrations in fanzines, i'm mainly looking for the more narrative stories than spot-illo stuff, though if anyone's willing to help me out on this as well, i'd appreciate it a lot. i really have little idea where to even begin to serious look for this information, and that's why i joined the list today, because i figured that collectively or separately, the members of this group would probably be able to know. again, i really appreciate what help you could offer me, and i thank you a lot. this is just for my personal collection, i'm not affiliated with anyone, blah blah blah. thanks, everyone. > > victor scott > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Apr 14 18:11:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12124 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 01:11:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 01:11:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.209) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 01:11:21 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-m07.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-449e53414170; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:10:44 -0400 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cec.54c5f2b1 (30739) for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:10:38 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.209 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Metzger also wrote and drew one of the first graphic novels. Beyond Time and Again was serialized in underground newspapers around 1971 and then collected in book form. **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421325x1201417411/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Apr 14 19:23:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49949 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 02:23:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 02:23:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m28.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.9) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 02:23:15 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-249e544b4283; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:40 -0400 X-Received: from Fugtussey1@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cc2.4318f057 (37164) for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA043-5bb249e544ab3bb; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:36 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-DY10 (webmail-dy10.sim.aol.com [205.188.185.145]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA021-5bb249e544ab3bb; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:31 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:31 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42402-STANDARD X-Received: from 96.255.145.242 by WEBMAIL-DY10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.185.145) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:21:31 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB8B88062D3F45-1414-15A@WEBMAIL-DY10.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=ERAPM1XoPpNFWafEoZ1jF1KP5PEpBzBD2XutigqxLHIAL2ZV X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a couple more Metzger fanzine appearances: All Stars #2 1970 Undergroundish zine published by Gary Arlingtion Paper Cuts Comics & Stories #1=C2=A01982=C2=A0 Star Studded Comics #13 (No art, but I believe he contributes to the letter= s page)=C2=A0 Comics Journal #87 Dec 1983 Interview? Aaron Caplan -----Original Message----- From: iaf1952 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 9:04 pm Subject: [cbzines] Re: questioning after george metzger =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 My main exposure to Metzger (at least in fanzines and not UGs), was in Robert Schoenfeld's GOSH WOW! In #2 (1968) Metzger did a pair of 2-page wordless stories he titled "Variations On A Theme", plus he has a very long letter in #2. Then in #3 (1969) he introduced Moondog with a 20-page story and back cover. These show up occasionally on eBay and sell for around $20 each. -- Gene Kehoe, editor IT'S A FANZINE --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "freakgenesis23" wrote: > > hi! > > i just joined this group, and i wanted to throw a question out there for you because i'm trying to put together a solid collection of george metzger's work and i know that he did a good deal of work in fanzines in the 60s/70s, but it's work that i can't really find a solid=20 list or bibliography of at all, and i don't know whether any of it's been reprinted. most of the underground comics sites on the net (and, to be fair, there are some pretty impressive ones) don't list his fanzine work at all, just his underground stuff (except for promethean enterprises, which is more of an underground oriented fanzine anyway, and has crumb stuff in it, so everybody pays attention). what i know of are the stories in > fantasy illustrated 7 > graphic story magazine 8, 9, 13 & 16 > promethean enterprises 1-5 > and > star studded comics 11 > (which i found out about by searching the archives here). > are there others? while i love his work and i am interested secondarily in his illustrations in fanzines, i'm mainly looking for the more narrative stories than spot-illo stuff, though if anyone's willing to help me out on this as well, i'd appreciate it a lot. i really have little idea where to even begin to serious look for this information, and that's why i joined the list today, because i figured that collectively or separately, the members of this group would probably be able to know. again, i really appreciate what help you could offer me, and i thank you a lot. this is just for my personal collection, i'm not affiliated with anyone, blah blah blah. thanks, everyone. > > victor scott > =20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 14 20:19:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85205 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 03:19:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 03:19:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost05.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.105) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 03:19:38 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail06.isp.att.net ([204.127.218.106]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090415031937H0500oaffle>; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:19:37 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.196.59] by fwebmail06.isp.att.net; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:19:36 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:19:36 +0000 Message-Id: <041520090319.425.49E552480001C0D6000001A922230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.105 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=VeeB3T9poTp1Dg9OjnHJ5oe0i9eoChpJtfs9UkfTHXaub0sHxXmGPYVk X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Victor, I've known George since 1967 & published some of his work in Papercuts #1 (and a single illo in another fanzine, Past Times #1). He did a lot of single illustrations for various SF fanzines, here and in England, prior to his work for Fantasy Illustrated. He ran parts of Beyond Time & Again in a couple of UG newspapers (before it was collected in hardback). Then he did the work you listed. (He had two full page illustrations in a wedding zine, the name of which escapes me, a little later on, and may have had a few odds and ends in some of the minis done in the 80s.) During the period he was doing Moondog & Mu for underground comix there wasn't a lot in fanzines. He illustrated several New Age books published by HL Gold, the former editor of Amazing (I believe, at least one of the SF digests), but that isn't narrative work or for fanzines. He had work reprinted in Germany in magazine & book form, a couple of things with new covers. He had work in Blab later on. He moved to Canada decades ago & worked in animation for a long time. He did a few catalogue covers & comic shops ads & the like, no comics I know of. What else? I own two pages from an unpublished/unfinished Dr Weird story intended as a follow up to his story in Star Studded (which were printed by Bill Schelly in his Star Studded volume) that I got from him several years ago. I probably own or know about most of his post 60s work but everything is boxed up and unavailable. All I've can offer are my memories of things I've seen or he's mentioned over the years. Narrative work in fanzines, for the most part, as far as I can remember, ended when he started doing ug comix. Anthony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From freakgenesis23@yahoo.com Wed Apr 15 04:45:05 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14287 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 11:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 11:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n73d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.45.98) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 11:45:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1239795827; bh=KFsLyhpgu4IJK8I3J+svkTAqDRJQ42nwfK3vYUYHY60=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=Gy9wG8VtHddqePb4s/8ybmao7jYwXPCTKi4tl1epu/cAjubbJKdmpTzGgKiPSbHgZNuSwxDxmx+8BxKzL7e2fpOuOm+sbt9VTC4ST/EiJ7csN7yMX8v8+VzAcHHxQ/CB Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n73.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 11:43:47 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 11:43:47 -0000 X-Sender: freakgenesis23@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17474 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2009 11:20:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2009 11:20:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.120) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2009 11:20:14 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 11:20:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2009 11:20:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:20:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.120 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.19.148.66 From: "freakgenesis23" Subject: Re: questioning after george metzger X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=189696618; y=vE4oc_884rMsBVj4RuLmXF20_U4BoPNocvp9GCzmQk0zyEsrCgXx-I8 X-Yahoo-Profile: freakgenesis23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 15 Apr 2009 11:43:47 -0000 hi again! thanks so much for all the help so far, everyone! i should add that i just= ordered (but haven't received yet) a copy of camber #13, which the descrip= tion on the site i picked it up from said contained a ten page story by met= zger, too. i noticed in the audio interview of mr. metzger on inkstuds tha= t he mentioned that he had an ongoing publishing relationship with a partic= ular fanzine publisher in england, so i was wondering if anyone would know = if there was anything else that he published in this one, or if there was a= nother british fanzine in particular that he was talking about? this is ki= nd of looking a gift horse in the mouth, i realize--i've already got three = or four things added to my list that i didn't know about and didn't have al= ready. i am familiar with "beyond time and again" as i got a copy for my b= irthday last month that my girlfriend managed to find for me, and i must ha= ve pored through it twenty times in the past month! i'm really less intere= sted in having the original of everything (particularly tabloid stuff like = the old underground papers) and more interested in being able to see as muc= h as i can that was published. i just found out, for example, that the sta= r-studded comics # 11 story and the fantasy illustrated story were the stor= ies that were in issues 1 and 2 of an anthology underground comic called fo= g city comics, which i've already got, and i'm not really interested in get= ting the two fanzines just to have the original appearances. right now, th= ough, metzger's probably my favorite comic creator (which'll probably chang= e in the next year, as it tends to) and i want to see as much of his stuff = as possible, so i really appreciate the pointers you've managed to give. t= hanks again! vic From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Mon Apr 20 20:56:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60502 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2009 03:56:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2009 03:56:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2009 03:56:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2009 03:56:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2009 03:56:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:56:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.245.234.27 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: new TBT online comic X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=Ybxi5SJPcn1WeHCaGTN8xGlP__UzQdGrfnw63d3gOY_Bug X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clones! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Tue Apr 21 17:38:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60879 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2009 00:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2009 00:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.126) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2009 00:38:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2009 00:38:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2009 00:38:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:38:20 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.126 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.118.245.148 From: "Rob Imes" Subject: Cerebus The Newsletter #14 released this week! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=Z1bWFh5v0Oma3V43s34yXhrzv7N2tg4iP0F4Hp3YhzV6sw X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes The Cerebus fanzine "Cerebus the Newsletter" has been revived! The newest = issue, #14 (continuing the numbering from where the zine had left off in th= e 1980s), was released this week and is available for $2.50 postpaid in the= U.S. All the details (and a cover image) are at http://cerebusfangirl.com/foc/index.php If you have a Paypal account, you can order the issue very easily by clicki= ng the "Buy Now" button on that page. (Which is how I ordered a copy of th= e issue yesterday.) "Cerebus the Newsletter" is produced by Jeff Tundis and Margaret Liss, and = they are aiming for a quarterly publication schedule. They are interested = in receiving submissions of art and articles for future issues (just click = the "How to Contribute" link on the upper left side of the page on the abov= e URL.=20=20 I'm looking forward to getting this issue in the mail. I never knew about = the previous Cerebus the Newsletter zine. This will nicely fill the void l= eft by the absence of the "Following Cerebus" zine in recent years (which I= DID buy semi-regularly). Rob Imes From lamiha80@gmail.com Thu Apr 30 08:40:39 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95395 invoked by uid 7800); 30 Apr 2009 15:40:37 -0000 X-Sender: lamiha80@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11632 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2009 15:17:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2009 15:17:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2009 15:17:00 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2009 15:16:23 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2009 15:16:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:16:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 99.142.9.34 From: "Laura H" Subject: Comics fanzine index help X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=314483639; y=T47yuoPptLSTykFVYCEp4qhszPIQB-XITZJwVbsxIAuvqy23ewTBTwUhROITG6s X-Yahoo-Profile: bouncingpurplepopple X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 30 Apr 2009 15:40:37 -0000 Hello, We're trying to create an index of fanzines and fanzine related issues on F= an History. This can be found at http://www.fanhistory.com/wiki/Category:F= anzines . There are currently over 1900 specific fanzines listed but the s= election of comics related fanzines is pretty small. :( There are only abo= ut 6 comics fandom related fanzines listed. We would really appreciate it = if anyone who has produced fanzines, has any information regarding comics f= anzines could help edit Fan History to include this information.=20=20 Thanks, Laura From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 05 10:10:51 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 44715 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 17:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2009 17:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2009 17:10:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1241543429; bh=mUIhV+afexoDy1CT3fgz7PYgf46aZ7oxGSkkF4uV6sg=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=KZ0nLQmQUH/hoSPGq5/G7aqQOMdDMOs5vmpKIDm+QoiV+Beep8ygE64LWTN8No79iT3HcQVvVHafx45vrb3Cd/sxnmT2DcSYrKKVSI8qoZf5YiwnDrakoZBKd4mhOcHh Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2009 17:10:29 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2009 17:10:29 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37043 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 17:08:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2009 17:08:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2009 17:08:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2009 17:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2009 17:08:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:08:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=7jzew8tEPYEGdT99w0B6-Ka2E1ksSMKKi2gAYSKhimvNMHon X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 05 May 2009 17:10:28 -0000 At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda store,= without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several comics = when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowadays= . Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dictiona= ry to keep up with the characters. What killed comics anyway? From jmain44@aol.com Tue May 05 10:16:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51127 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 17:16:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2009 17:16:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omr-m33.mx.aol.com) (64.12.143.145) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2009 17:16:07 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by omr-m33.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n45HG0AX027001 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:16:01 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d45.45b0b118 (37060) for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 13:15:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB046-5c584a00743e301; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:45 -0400 X-Received: from mblk-m27 (mblk-m27.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.71]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA036-5c584a00743e301; Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:42 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:42 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.151.85.76 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42813-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by mblk-m27.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 05 May 2009 13:15:42 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9BBC411EE52F-109C-165F@mblk-m27.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:YES X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=3hSj85GP0nutSrTeeTRoc9XqqOzNOzwc8jS1CJkYcQixUQ X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm...I see comic racks all the time at various supermarket chains?I go to as well as Walmart and Borders. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 5 May 2009 1:08 pm Subject: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowadays. Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dictionary to keep up with the characters. What killed comics anyway? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 05 19:31:28 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58773 invoked by uid 7800); 6 May 2009 02:31:26 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8383 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 02:30:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 02:30:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 02:30:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 02:29:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 02:29:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 02:29:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CB9BBC411EE52F-109C-165F@mblk-m27.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=6dSxD7k8YtB1gzZ94cp3-fjcQ83CT-hEoHWZ5DOMkWlsTQy0 X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 6 May 2009 02:31:26 -0000 TIN Is this true for others? Everybody had them years ago--mom and pop shops--drug stores. Kids would be= gathered around them. But then--I'm old --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > Hmmm...I see comic racks all the time at various supermarket chains?I go = to as well as Walmart and Borders. > GJ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 5 May 2009 1:08 pm > Subject: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda stor= e, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. >=20 > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? >=20 > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several comic= s when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. >=20 > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowada= ys. >=20 > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dictio= nary to keep up with the characters. >=20 > What killed comics anyway? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From robimes@yahoo.com Tue May 05 19:50:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90384 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 02:50:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 02:50:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.178) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 02:50:08 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 21248 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2009 02:49:07 -0000 Message-ID: <673575.20816.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zQ8i6SEVM1nStb8MROXtl0VsRNtBXTPG3T3RIT968TrI3bANpkL9TP4oEUVNXjefQ3AYLFRLAw.jv1DQccJeXtDKzzzIjqupkGf0A24SYF6oTEtlmu58IXkk6WQM4HQZN8ftfY05RYPRXKaDygw8oI8iikppi6kZAkS4ZaLFVOqmLPUiwSXtRC6PZdxJlKHnaPdqGBdob3wmFGseqxQpQaiT4LlqJ9gvfl9iuhgwzfxN8ZMgPNz5kYZkTfMnWCsnx1H5OnyjZMWhdaWb7ABsiX0tef1PeZfbZgBAZKiY6sjQqLG1RquuXJNrXv5HguBenkXg7dM4iHM8UiRZmxWkMzC3cDn5Bdcw5ZM- X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 May 2009 19:49:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:49:07 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=WaYtg6iDJgXmLOHkvcVWvBvMT1IOiJpsTmzs0J37YcQuIA X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes Jim, It might be a regional thing. The only comics spinner rack that I have see= n in my area, in the past 8 years or so, is the one at the local Borders Ex= press (formerly Waldenbooks) bookstore.=20=20 The only other places that carry comics in my area (outside of comics shops= ) are: - a local drugstore which has around 8 titles in with the magazines, on the= bottom shelf. This drugstore has been around for over 50 years, and has a= bit of an old-time feel for me, so it was neat to see that they still had = some comics. I sometimes used to stop in here on my way to the local comic= s shop to check out their comics. - a local Meijer store (a Walmart-type store in the Midwest) carries around= 3 or 4 comics (at best) in the magazines section, usually Spider-Girl. Th= is doesn't count the Archie digests at the checkouts. - The local Borders books has a large comics shelf next to the magazine she= lf, as well as a graphic novel section over by the books. - A couple other local bookstores carry a few comics. Two used bookstores = in this area have a few boxes of old (and semi-old) comics. A couple other drugstores and 7-11s around here might have a couple random = new comics in the magazines sections. But if I don't notice them, someone = who notices such things when I go in there, then I doubt the average person= notices them.=20=20 For most of the 1980s, when I was a teenager, I bought most of my new comic= s at the spinner racks at the local Lawson's (later Dairy Mart) and 7-11. = Also at a few local bookstores, all of which had spinner racks of comics. = Back then, my trips to comics shops were infrequent because of their distan= ce from my family's house; I went to them perhaps 3 or 4 times a year. Whe= n I went to the comics shops, I would usually buy stuff that wasn't availab= le to me normally, such as back issues and independent comics.=20=20 The love of comics by kids is a precarious thing... I know that I went thro= ugh my first abandonment of comics at the ripe old age of 13. I didn't exa= ctly abandon them altogether, but I dropped several childhood favorites for= around a year, having gotten bored of them. (Mostly Marvel titles like Ca= ptain America and Avengers which I had followed religiously between the age= s of 8 to 12.) Luckily there were oddball titles like Charlton's ghost com= ics, Archie's superhero line, Eclipse comics, All-Star Squadron, Dr. Strang= e, etc., to keep me buying new comics. Perhaps it is normal for most kids = to stop buying comics by age 13 (if they ever start buying them), moving on= to other (non-comic) stuff by then. Perhaps today's companies are trying= to keep the 13 year olds (and older) reading the comics, but forgetting to= draw in the pre-teen readers, and therefore losing readers. I would think= it's more socially acceptable for a pre-teen to be a comics reader than a teenager (or older), but for some reason it seems like there are fe= wer pre-teen readers of comics than when I was a kid.=20=20 Rob Imes=20=20=20=20 =20 --- On Tue, 5/5/09, jmain44@aol.com wrote: > From: jmain44@aol.com > Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 1:15 PM > Hmmm...I see comic racks all the time > at various supermarket chains?I go to as well as Walmart and > Borders. > GJ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 5 May 2009 1:08 pm > Subject: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of > what kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were > everywhere. >=20 > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? >=20 > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get > several comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several > dollars. >=20 > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to > choose from nowadays. >=20 > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one > needed a dictionary to keep up with the characters. >=20 > What killed comics anyway? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------ >=20 > Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 > =A0 =A0 mailto:comicbookfanzines-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com >=20 >=20 >=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 06 04:54:52 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11166 invoked by uid 7800); 6 May 2009 11:54:49 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39128 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 09:07:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 09:07:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 09:07:12 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 09:07:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.13] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 09:07:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:07:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <673575.20816.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=OYc5i1g59APqyek4d-8X0MRyvUaFCVo6w1VCQHtw7ugMBtVa X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 6 May 2009 11:54:49 -0000 I read somewhere that the only comic company that wasn't crippled by the sl= ow down in comic sales was Archie comics. I wonder what kinda magic they ha= ve Comics went through the same thing once before. There were some of the same= attributes--there was a glut on "super heros." I don't think there was a e= xtreme cost increase though. Why put them out on higher cost paper? There are still original Superman fi= rst issues out there. Good grief--how long do they want them to last? I think step one for a solution would be to go back to the old paper and cu= t those costs (If it ain't broke-don't try to fix it). Step back one step a= t a time to where it was working --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > >=20 > Jim, >=20 > It might be a regional thing. The only comics spinner rack that I have s= een in my area, in the past 8 years or so, is the one at the local Borders = Express (formerly Waldenbooks) bookstore.=20=20 >=20 > The only other places that carry comics in my area (outside of comics sho= ps) are: >=20 > - a local drugstore which has around 8 titles in with the magazines, on t= he bottom shelf. This drugstore has been around for over 50 years, and has= a bit of an old-time feel for me, so it was neat to see that they still ha= d some comics. I sometimes used to stop in here on my way to the local com= ics shop to check out their comics. >=20 > - a local Meijer store (a Walmart-type store in the Midwest) carries arou= nd 3 or 4 comics (at best) in the magazines section, usually Spider-Girl. = This doesn't count the Archie digests at the checkouts. >=20 > - The local Borders books has a large comics shelf next to the magazine s= helf, as well as a graphic novel section over by the books. >=20 > - A couple other local bookstores carry a few comics. Two used bookstore= s in this area have a few boxes of old (and semi-old) comics. >=20 > A couple other drugstores and 7-11s around here might have a couple rando= m new comics in the magazines sections. But if I don't notice them, someon= e who notices such things when I go in there, then I doubt the average pers= on notices them.=20=20 >=20 > For most of the 1980s, when I was a teenager, I bought most of my new com= ics at the spinner racks at the local Lawson's (later Dairy Mart) and 7-11.= Also at a few local bookstores, all of which had spinner racks of comics.= Back then, my trips to comics shops were infrequent because of their dist= ance from my family's house; I went to them perhaps 3 or 4 times a year. W= hen I went to the comics shops, I would usually buy stuff that wasn't avail= able to me normally, such as back issues and independent comics.=20=20 >=20 > The love of comics by kids is a precarious thing... I know that I went th= rough my first abandonment of comics at the ripe old age of 13. I didn't e= xactly abandon them altogether, but I dropped several childhood favorites f= or around a year, having gotten bored of them. (Mostly Marvel titles like = Captain America and Avengers which I had followed religiously between the a= ges of 8 to 12.) Luckily there were oddball titles like Charlton's ghost c= omics, Archie's superhero line, Eclipse comics, All-Star Squadron, Dr. Stra= nge, etc., to keep me buying new comics. Perhaps it is normal for most kid= s to stop buying comics by age 13 (if they ever start buying them), moving = on to other (non-comic) stuff by then. Perhaps today's companies are tryi= ng to keep the 13 year olds (and older) reading the comics, but forgetting = to draw in the pre-teen readers, and therefore losing readers. I would thi= nk it's more socially acceptable for a pre-teen to be a comics reader > than a teenager (or older), but for some reason it seems like there are = fewer pre-teen readers of comics than when I was a kid.=20=20 >=20 > Rob Imes=20=20=20=20 >=20=20 >=20 > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, jmain44@... wrote: >=20 > > From: jmain44@... > > Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? > > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 1:15 PM > > Hmmm...I see comic racks all the time > > at various supermarket chains?I go to as well as Walmart and > > Borders. > > GJ > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tinroad6g > > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tue, 5 May 2009 1:08 pm > > Subject: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of > > what kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were > > everywhere. > >=20 > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > >=20 > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get > > several comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several > > dollars. > >=20 > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to > > choose from nowadays. > >=20 > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one > > needed a dictionary to keep up with the characters. > >=20 > > What killed comics anyway? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------ > >=20 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > >=20 > >=20 > > =A0 =A0 mailto:comicbookfanzines-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > >=20 > >=20 > > > From darkmark90@yahoo.com Wed May 06 12:25:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: darkmark90@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25376 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 19:25:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 19:25:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 19:25:34 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 19:25:32 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 19:25:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:25:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 74.197.85.24 From: "darkmark90" Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=9459885; y=ad3uypnEScNsXNHMTM_kwo9GZD7x9etvPcHQOd8iA8uqoWjLZQ X-Yahoo-Profile: darkmark90 Well, for one thing, Archie Comics publishes stories that people actually w= ant to read. Not grotesquely violent, overwrought, multi-issue epics that = don't have much to do with real life. Anyway, that's my humble opinion. DM --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote= : > > I read somewhere that the only comic company that wasn't crippled by the = slow down in comic sales was Archie comics. I wonder what kinda magic they = have From msquare58@yahoo.com Wed May 06 13:12:12 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58327 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 20:12:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 20:12:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 20:12:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1241640722; bh=F7xm+g4h52x+IWX9S67t7GR9xcSwXk1bOZaPRBT3BeI=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=ouIS1W8ImBRhYV43ZMNNT2C0ZSt0oFoIHLZRnTtQG3nNNAfu/XCqukpVsXUeuOoYGddcswYNxz37uNve4DAovK1VBwq92hgGvzEBFg5BIVIGt2B3OwXZ/sjZ1JufZWZB Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 20:12:02 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 20:12:02 -0000 X-Sender: msquare58@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97240 invoked from network); 6 May 2009 19:56:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 May 2009 19:56:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 May 2009 19:56:30 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 19:55:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2009 19:55:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:55:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 167.102.158.251 From: "msquare58" Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386867558; y=PY2IIRbT7bUjETeVRId97iQXoJo-lbJepAoX4dT-A_nwP66J X-Yahoo-Profile: msquare58 X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 06 May 2009 20:12:01 -0000 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "darkmark90" wrote: Well, for one thing, Archie Comics publishes stories that people actually want to read. Not grotesquely violent, overwrought, multi-issue epics that don't have much to do with real life. Anyway, that's my humble opinion. DM > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote: > > > > I read somewhere that the only comic company that wasn't crippled by the slow down in comic sales was Archie comics. I wonder what kinda magic they have >What killed comics the internet,cell phones,video games,greed of the publishers,lack of imagination in story telling,lack of diversity of the subject matter published and last but not least the quality of public education . There are a few reasons. From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 07 09:46:03 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54207 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:45:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:45:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:45:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1241714732; bh=3FALXBwVSLaRzAGWoi7Qs/0228X4uC2on4n/dUDVGsY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=Uj8hAnRODpRqHV5TodVaR2UoN6zvUjrYGxNQB3RUOa3WVCcynDHJ3E4Vw3SY/pozO2irixxp2uA1XD7aaFFxcbFKrXJ9ya/3OMRRk2bwRZR8/CHDRanddMoueb5zWsfk Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:45:32 -0000 Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:45:32 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46806 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:44:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:44:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:44:45 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:43:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:43:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:43:54 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=jH6evXcL6HkAF39_9Htm_aKfaGLahVLXJ--v6tZLoBI23PWf X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 07 May 2009 16:45:32 -0000 you are right--they are just good fun. The simple art and story lines can b= e read and viewed over and over --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "msquare58" wrote= : > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "darkmark90" wrot= e: >=20 > Well, for one thing, Archie Comics publishes stories that people actually= want to read. Not grotesquely violent, overwrought, multi-issue epics tha= t don't have much to do with real life. Anyway, that's my humble opinion. >=20 > DM >=20 > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrot= e: > > > > > > I read somewhere that the only comic company that wasn't crippled by = the slow down in comic sales was Archie comics. I wonder what kinda magic t= hey have > >What killed comics the internet,cell phones,video games,greed of the pub= lishers,lack of imagination in story telling,lack of diversity of the subje= ct matter published and last but not least the quality of public education = . There are a few reasons. > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 07 09:47:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89394 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:47:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:47:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:47:26 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:46:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2009 16:46:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:46:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=rYKuEXl5liIbd1ucxFMgOJz29s1sgspU4OMUQO4u7S6mR7nd X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... * Lot of them are on line=20 * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on a s= ingle zine What else is different? From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu May 07 09:53:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55749 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:53:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:53:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:53:32 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a0311f31a; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:53:07 -0400 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d2f.418bdc54 (39331) for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:52:49 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 In a message dated 5/7/2009 8:46:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: =20 << Well, for one thing, Archie Comics publishes stories that people=20 actually want to read. Not grotesquely violent, overwrought, multi-issue e= pics=20 that don't have much to do with real life. Anyway, that's my humble opinio= n.>> =20 Even as a kid I never liked Archie comics. I felt like if you read one=20 you've read them all. These characters were created in the 1940s and read = like=20 they were trapped in time somewhere. I understand the characters were=20 recently redesigned to make them more modern but for decades they lived in= some=20 never never land unlike any high school reality I ever encountered. Harvey= =20 Kurtzman did a brilliant parody of Archie in an early MAD in which the=20 characters found themselves in real 1950s high school situations, includin= g=20 with juvenile delinquents. Very funny stuff which showed why the real Arch= ie=20 comics were so silly. **************Big savings on Dell=E2=80=99s most popular laptops. Now start= ing at=20 $449!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222382499x1201454962/aol?redir=3D= http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663472%3B36502367%3Bg) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Thu May 07 09:55:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56703 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:55:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:55:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m13.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.101) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:55:54 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-m13.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a03124726d; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:54:31 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c33.520abda6 (37122) for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.152]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA018-5bc94a031235e3; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:54:24 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-DZ10 (webmail-dz10.sim.aol.com [205.188.185.24]) by smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB018-5bc94a031235e3; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:54:13 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:54:13 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by WEBMAIL-DZ10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.185.24) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 07 May 2009 12:54:13 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9D4B94D405B7-7C4-B9E@WEBMAIL-DZ10.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=-MLHb4PNqpbVAsGCo5n3VmioLKkGGr8ACSDu0Xwia6HORg X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still do 'zines and my title COMIC FAN! certainly has more than 12 people involved in the material each issue. I'm currently working on a silver age tribute issue and "roll call" is quite long. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46 pm Subject: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... * Lot of them are on line * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on a single zine What else is different? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Thu May 07 09:58:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75711 invoked from network); 7 May 2009 16:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2009 16:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2009 16:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a0312d97; Thu, 07 May 2009 12:56:57 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cdd.4eafd3cb (41811) for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 12:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:56:48 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=ePk65jIuGOJrC-1iqqZ72KxXhyBDxedqW-RlnMj_j6Xz2Iv-KZ3RR2J4 X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 5/7/09 12:46:31 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: >=20 >=20 >=20 > you are right--they are just good fun. The simple art and story lines can= =20 > be read and viewed over and over >=20 >=20 >=20 ----------------------------------------- Unfortunately though the somewhat homogenous look that is mostly aping the= =20 style of Dan DeCarlo has taken over most of ARCHIE's output has replaced th= e=20 individualized look of Danny himself, as well as Harry Lucey, Stan Goldberg= =20 Samm Schwartz, and a few other ARCHIE stylists. The work is good and solid but a little variety would be fun. I like what Rick Burchett and Terry Austin, Joe Staton, Al Milgrom et al=20 have bee doing with these New Look stories at ARCHIE, some of that could be= a=20 new wave there for what I am talking about. --steve c, owner-moderator, DanDeCarloDevotees@Yahoogroups.com ************** Big=20 savings on Dell=E2=80=99s most popular laptops. Now starting at $449!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222382499x1201454962/aol?redir=3D= http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclic k.net%2Fclk%3B214663472%3B36502367%3Bg) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Fri May 08 04:33:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37377 invoked from network); 8 May 2009 11:33:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2009 11:33:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.188) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2009 11:33:10 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2009 11:32:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.13] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2009 11:32:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:32:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CB9D4B94D405B7-7C4-B9E@WEBMAIL-DZ10.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.188 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=pOlKih9JOTSgbgeSCjFaKIZfC8pjzIJRfsC07K9EL8pL54VZ X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g That is interesting. Is there any art from your zine here in this group or = on the Internet? I thought the most fun (for me anyway) was in working with others--double t= rue if they lived close by and we could get together The only negative I encountered was egos. Sometimes that became a problem --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > I still do 'zines and my title COMIC FAN! certainly has more than 12 peop= le involved in the material each issue. I'm currently working on a silver a= ge tribute issue and "roll call" is quite long. > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46 pm > Subject: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... >=20 > * Lot of them are on line=20 > * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on a= single zine >=20 > What else is different? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From jmain44@aol.com Fri May 08 04:46:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68364 invoked from network); 8 May 2009 11:46:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2009 11:46:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2009 11:46:19 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a041b46162; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:45:10 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.ccf.50b4bf1c (37571) for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:44:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB048-5c4c4a041b351f4; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:44:55 -0400 X-Received: from Webmail-mg04 (webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com [64.12.142.152]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA022-5c4c4a041b351f4; Fri, 08 May 2009 07:44:53 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:44:53 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com (64.12.142.152) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 May 2009 07:44:53 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9DE988D5DA5C-11D8-2627@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:5:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=3cozN80K0H8fQzZj_zJQRY7w4BawP0scXQLIX1aasdoeLQ X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, nothing here, but here's a look at some cover art for the upcoming issue. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 8 May 2009 7:32 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today That is interesting. Is there any art from your zine here in this group or on the Internet? I thought the most fun (for me anyway) was in working with others--double true if they lived close by and we could get together The only negative I encountered was egos. Sometimes that became a problem --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > I still do 'zines and my title COMIC FAN! certainly has more than 12 people involved in the material each issue. I'm currently working on a silver age tribute issue and "roll call" is quite long. > GJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46 pm > Subject: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today > > > > > > > > > There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... > > * Lot of them are on line > * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on a single zine > > What else is different? > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 09:17:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21381 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 16:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 16:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 16:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 16:17:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 16:17:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:17:05 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CB9DE988D5DA5C-11D8-2627@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=_QfFpkMxa5CRQtXYgHpngl5IcCeHI1BAfcJO-u2kJPz6cs9j X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Where? --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > No, nothing here, but here's a look at some cover art for the upcoming is= sue. > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, 8 May 2009 7:32 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > That is interesting. Is there any art from your zine here in this group o= r on the Internet? >=20 > I thought the most fun (for me anyway) was in working with others--double= true if they lived close by and we could get together >=20 > The only negative I encountered was egos. Sometimes that became a problem >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@ wrote: > > > > I still do 'zines and my title COMIC FAN! certainly has more than 12 pe= ople involved in the material each issue. I'm currently working on a silver= age tribute issue and "roll call" is quite long. > > GJ > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tinroad6g > > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46 pm > > Subject: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... > >=20 > > * Lot of them are on line=20 > > * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on= a single zine > >=20 > > What else is different? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sat May 09 09:20:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94702 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 16:20:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 16:20:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 16:20:12 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a05ad1d5d; Sat, 09 May 2009 12:19:41 -0400 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c06.53cc2357 (32915) for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 12:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:19:37 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As has been stated before, Yahoo strips off attachments. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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GJ -----Original Message----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:19 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today As has been stated before, Yahoo strips off attachments. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Jim -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:17 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today Where? --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > No, nothing here, but here's a look at some cover art for the upcoming issue. > GJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, 8 May 2009 7:32 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Is there any art from your zine here in this group or on the Internet? > > I thought the most fun (for me anyway) was in working with others--double true if they lived close by and we could get together > > The only negative I encountered was egos. Sometimes that became a problem > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@ wrote: > > > > I still do 'zines and my title COMIC FAN! certainly has more than 12 people involved in the material each issue. I'm currently working on a silver age tribute issue and "roll call" is quite long. > > GJ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tinroad6g > > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:46 pm > > Subject: [cbzines] Zines--what is different today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are not as many zines today. What are some differences.... > > > > * Lot of them are on line > > * Not as many working on a project--I remember as many as 12 working on a single zine > > > > What else is different? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat May 09 15:27:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83604 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 22:27:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 22:27:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 22:27:13 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:27:10 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:27:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:27:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.209.34 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=pl1F4nbp0PdwLj47kWQQUqIZvFteW6G-gVFFYYlKpt12Fw X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless it wa= s a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 that only had= the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would only carry those ear= ly "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some change, pick= ing out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go "That'll be $ 2.5= 2" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to put 1 or 2 back.=20 What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and compa= nies in the 90s didn't help. I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on it and = 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they are long gone = with very few left in the city. T!M --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote= : > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda stor= e, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. >=20 > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? >=20 > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several comic= s when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. >=20 > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowada= ys. >=20 > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dictio= nary to keep up with the characters. >=20 > What killed comics anyway? > From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat May 09 15:36:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38746 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 22:36:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 22:36:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 22:36:30 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:36:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:36:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:36:24 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.209.34 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=PJ-jynS4b9qWgP8urG7AVCkaYz2_YCMffJirhKRNLv2UIQ X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or original= comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contribu= te to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback an= d even provide a small readership for titles or characters. Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in to= uch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling of = community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Personal= ly I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic boo= ks in full color by various talents and no one reads them. Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new materia= l and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was = once called "Fandom" left. T!M From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 15:38:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12362 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 22:38:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 22:38:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 22:38:12 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:38:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:38:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:38:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=PYgavubTGkkvmA8IPBWfUrTHORq-3r-8m-3E2_wtySdNt8sy X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Are you the Tim that ran 3Cs with Jeff Cooke?????? --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tim_tt2" wrote: > > Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless it = was a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 that only h= ad the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would only carry those e= arly "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. >=20 > I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some change, pi= cking out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go "That'll be $ 2= .52" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to put 1 or 2 back.=20 >=20 > What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and com= panies in the 90s didn't help. >=20 > I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on it an= d 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they are long gon= e with very few left in the city. >=20 > T!M >=20 >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote: > > > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda st= ore, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. > >=20 > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > >=20 > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several com= ics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. > >=20 > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowa= days. > >=20 > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dict= ionary to keep up with the characters. > >=20 > > What killed comics anyway? > > > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 15:42:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24136 invoked from network); 9 May 2009 22:42:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2009 22:42:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2009 22:42:15 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:41:53 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2009 22:41:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:41:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=tEH5WIdeGBYh8W8AuTZFOuS4Sbx0rGDW4ol-9SCGtKZXhEfN X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g The art in games, movies etc has zoomed out of sight. I think the art in zi= nes is behind the times. I believe this does nothing to help.=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tim_tt2" wrote: > > As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or origin= al comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contri= bute to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback = and even provide a small readership for titles or characters. >=20 > Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in = touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling o= f community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Person= ally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic b= ooks in full color by various talents and no one reads them. >=20 > Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new mater= ial and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what wa= s once called "Fandom" left. >=20 > T!M > From jmain44@aol.com Sat May 09 17:30:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72709 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 00:30:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 00:30:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 00:30:13 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-d01.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a061fe18b; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:29:22 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c6e.3981b0d8 (37035) for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:29:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB025-5bbc4a061fd83bb; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:29:15 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M27 (fwm-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.229]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA033-5bbc4a061fd83bb; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:29:12 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:29:12 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 09 May 2009 20:29:12 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9F1D79ADFF55-780-2E7F@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.39 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=WAKVRoZYz1YHh8_2_ttjFS98RQFeA3J1gf55LnSpTe398g X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, that's me, a holdout from the days of "fun" zines...lol...for those who want to check out what?I have available, you can go to www.mainenterprises.ecrater.com?for the minicomics up to full size magazine format titles I publish. I just love doing them. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tim_tt2 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 6:36 pm Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or original comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contribute to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback and even provide a small readership for titles or characters. Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling of community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Personally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new material and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was once called "Fandom" left. T!M [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sat May 09 17:32:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46244 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 00:32:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 00:32:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 00:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-m11.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a06206714d; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:31:35 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c54.4b85dd8f (37142) for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 20:31:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA034-5bc04a06205d31; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:31:31 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M27 (fwm-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.229]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA037-5bc04a06205d31; Sat, 09 May 2009 20:31:25 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 20:31:24 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 09 May 2009 20:31:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9F1DC885FF61-780-2E87@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=jNK7OCnZT6JDZYoniS5mhlHb7Zu8pt3AAu4Yzmcdm1DUjw X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess that's all a matter of personal opinion. I think the art in'zines is just fine, but for a more selective taste. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 6:41 pm Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today The art in games, movies etc has zoomed out of sight. I think the art in zines is behind the times. I believe this does nothing to help. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tim_tt2" wrote: > > As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or original comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contribute to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback and even provide a small readership for titles or characters. > > Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling of community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Personally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. > > Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new material and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was once called "Fandom" left. > > T!M > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 19:27:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40290 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 02:27:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 02:27:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 02:27:45 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 02:27:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 02:27:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 02:27:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CB9F1DC885FF61-780-2E87@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=h56DTWCwRY6255NmIMiNgkmIh34rVm9hoXzZsiydYDIj6TSG X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g How about the members here doing a long term art zine? Not pushing but taki= ng their time. Each with a short explaination of how they did their work--p= encils-inks? programs used? etc --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > I guess that's all a matter of personal opinion. I think the art in'zines= is just fine, but for a more > selective taste. > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 6:41 pm > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The art in games, movies etc has zoomed out of sight. I think the art in = zines is behind the times. I believe this does nothing to help.=20 >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tim_tt2" wrote: > > > > As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or orig= inal comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to cont= ribute to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedbac= k and even provide a small readership for titles or characters. > >=20 > > Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept i= n touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling= of community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Pers= onally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic= books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. > >=20 > > Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new mat= erial and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what = was once called "Fandom" left. > >=20 > > T!M > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sat May 09 19:39:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46654 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 02:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 02:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.122) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 02:38:58 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090510023757806.UMLT19662@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 02:37:57 +0000 To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnQ9p4cUimmMRZwSy2u1AxXJoD44QAIYTQg X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.122 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=7i8nGLyZzBm9b1IMg8_wTN_fZ9QtoR8aM-9cpcfq_iQOqw X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you guys should check out www.dimestoreproductions.com - our forum is all about small press community Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tim_tt2 Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:36 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or original comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contribute to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback and even provide a small readership for titles or characters. Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling of community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. Personally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online comic books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new material and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was once called "Fandom" left. T!M [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Sat May 09 19:47:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42444 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 02:47:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 02:47:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.191) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 02:47:20 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 9551 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2009 02:47:20 -0000 Message-ID: <177253.9166.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HEBYl_8VM1kUovASuoCjld1BN8d_I5muA1Au4Z7Xph6AEznMpLj.GpTYOCrny7F5V9Ugug5E5C.NOxzi7jA_85Lrkn0EYziEf.BrwhtH.yIQDjqkyuaAUPZYSIMyscdsQrPr0EGCoSF8d7ImmsT1gpz0rO6S_23O0NYzjVUc9WugJYcfdU.tl_VYi2diM0D6C4_9YYu46QQAYHXXu2iDjU7VyAahXZMs4BxWIDjxSIhjLZUy8HxoRcXpJU3qTSBAF4g2FFjiWjRpOtC.808aoyZDC1eI2cm4RPOE4hKoOkddmL50YD_2SANcPj8Mn8005cLlzZs- X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 May 2009 19:47:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:47:19 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=rAmzPINop1QuchHG3IYmrk45vD0u_7AFYhmvAHChqnKb-Q X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes > I'd say > there is a lack of community. People used to contribute to > others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give > feedback and even provide a small readership for titles or > characters. > You can still find some of that today. Take Larry Johnson's TALES OF FANTASY, for example. Mike Tuz and Larry Blake, both of whom have been in small press since the early 1970s (like Larry Johnson himself) are frequent presences in the TOF letterpage, offering critiques and feedback of each issue. Recently they have been contributing to TOF as well -- Mike wrote the script for the current issue, and Larry Blake is drawing the next issue. (Tuz & Johnson are also frequent presences in Larry Blake's own comic, Kevin Cool.) And all three men have contributed to my fanzine Ditkomania. I was just reading a copy of one of Jim Main's zines from the mid-1980s, and all three had work in that as well! Tuz & Blake are not online, and I recently wrote a letter to them snail-mail (and received replies from both). My own zine, Ditkomania, is a fanzine -- a bit different than a small-press publication containing original comics material by me -- and therefore it has a bit of a "built-in" audience: Ditko's many fans. Ditko's name is the "hook" that gets people to order a copy of the zine. I think every publication should have a "hook" like that to draw in readers -- something to get them interested, appealing to what interests them already: the names of the talent involved, or the subject matter, etc. One can also contribute to other's zines and build up a following that way. There are many co-ops still active like the UFO (to which I belong), BPP, and SPS which one can join to find fellowship with like-minded small-press creators/publishers. Some of the members of these groups have been publishing for many decades, while others are just newcomers. It's a good way of providing feedback, exposure, enthusiasm and contributions. Rob Imes From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 20:15:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43531 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 03:15:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 03:15:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 03:15:36 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 03:15:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 03:15:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 03:15:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=8c5PYHMkSmBS18MMhZrctCPY0RoCYl_hvuV1ljym79rQhAlZ X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g I think that is GREAT. However, it seems to take something out of it. I lik= e the old days when people just got together and worked everything out for = themselves. I think the fun is in the work. One nice thing today is printers. Printing = stuff is a breeze. As far as covers--part of the beauty of the old zines is= that they didn't have slick covers etc--you could see the work and love th= at went into them-everything was done by hand. I stapled stuff until it mad= e my hands sore but seeing the finished product was cool I ain't knocking what you're doing. If a person has a real hit and thinks m= oney can be made -that might be the way to go. I usually lost money but had= a ball. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > you guys should check out www.dimestoreproductions.com - our forum is all > about small press community >=20=20 > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com =20=20 > www.dimestoredistro.com =20 > www.spacomics.com =20 > www.indyfestusa.com =20=20 > www.selfpubmag.com =20=20 >=20=20 >=20 > _____=20=20 >=20 > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tim_tt2 > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:36 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or origin= al > comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contrib= ute > to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback and > even provide a small readership for titles or characters. >=20 > Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in > touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling= of > community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. > Personally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online > comic books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. >=20 > Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new mater= ial > and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was > once called "Fandom" left. >=20 > T!M >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sat May 09 20:23:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82791 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 03:23:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 03:23:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 03:23:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 03:22:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 03:22:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 03:22:35 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <177253.9166.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=p6fXr31lL_vzFRow4ZgHXl2HjvguZv4rf7vpsLFUo4uxi-CR X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Ditko did a story about a muscle guy who competed at the literal mister uni= verse. He beat all these huge aliens (strangely)--then found out the winner= was kept in a cage and put on display (aliens lost on purpose).=20 I still remember how his art looked--that one was my first love of Ditko ar= t --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > >=20 > > I'd say > > there is a lack of community. People used to contribute to > > others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give > > feedback and even provide a small readership for titles or > > characters. > > >=20 > You can still find some of that today. Take Larry Johnson's TALES OF FAN= TASY, for example. Mike Tuz and Larry Blake, both of whom have been in sma= ll press since the early 1970s (like Larry Johnson himself) are frequent pr= esences in the TOF letterpage, offering critiques and feedback of each issu= e. Recently they have been contributing to TOF as well -- Mike wrote the s= cript for the current issue, and Larry Blake is drawing the next issue. (T= uz & Johnson are also frequent presences in Larry Blake's own comic, Kevin = Cool.) And all three men have contributed to my fanzine Ditkomania. I was= just reading a copy of one of Jim Main's zines from the mid-1980s, and all= three had work in that as well! Tuz & Blake are not online, and I recentl= y wrote a letter to them snail-mail (and received replies from both).=20=20 >=20 > My own zine, Ditkomania, is a fanzine -- a bit different than a small-pre= ss publication containing original comics material by me -- and therefore i= t has a bit of a "built-in" audience: Ditko's many fans. Ditko's name is t= he "hook" that gets people to order a copy of the zine. I think every publ= ication should have a "hook" like that to draw in readers -- something to g= et them interested, appealing to what interests them already: the names of = the talent involved, or the subject matter, etc. One can also contribute t= o other's zines and build up a following that way.=20=20 >=20 > There are many co-ops still active like the UFO (to which I belong), BPP,= and SPS which one can join to find fellowship with like-minded small-press= creators/publishers. Some of the members of these groups have been publis= hing for many decades, while others are just newcomers. It's a good way of= providing feedback, exposure, enthusiasm and contributions. >=20 > Rob Imes > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 05:27:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20818 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 12:27:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 12:27:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 12:27:46 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 12:27:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 12:27:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:27:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=gAtx7XnJ4B5FEzFW0frirpTCbdUnY8dXsO5SA3ev6VL3ADdo X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g When I bought zines in the old days each one was put together by the people= who made it. The entire thing was a work of art just for the love of doing= it. They didn't send it out to be printed, folded, stapled etc. I don't know if it's just me-but there was something special in that. If I = wanted something a company printed work I would just buy a comic. I don't know--maybe that was just me. What do you think? From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sun May 10 06:55:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19598 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 13:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 13:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.122) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 13:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090510135419673.XTMW2590@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:19 +0000 To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnRHZkf/KAYfGd3TWGudkAFHO2pPQAWQ/BQ X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.122 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=-xJf_hzEUdjGqE5PRZhHBO2GknO9r64PfcSa-L7jEcq2QA X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you obviously didn't actually go into the forum and read any posts and stuff. Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:15 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today I think that is GREAT. However, it seems to take something out of it. I like the old days when people just got together and worked everything out for themselves. I think the fun is in the work. One nice thing today is printers. Printing stuff is a breeze. As far as covers--part of the beauty of the old zines is that they didn't have slick covers etc--you could see the work and love that went into them-everything was done by hand. I stapled stuff until it made my hands sore but seeing the finished product was cool I ain't knocking what you're doing. If a person has a real hit and thinks money can be made -that might be the way to go. I usually lost money but had a ball. --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > you guys should check out www.dimestoreproductions.com - our forum is all > about small press community > > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/> > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/> > www.spacomics.com s.com/> > www.indyfestusa.com usa.com/> > www.selfpubmag.com ag.com/> > > > _____ > > From: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tim_tt2 > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:36 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Zines--what is different today > > > > > > As someone who published, wrote and drew zines.... 'stripzines' or original > comiczines...I'd say there is a lack of community. People used to contribute > to others' zines...and buy and collect them. They would give feedback and > even provide a small readership for titles or characters. > > Ironically, that seems to be gone now in this modern age. We all kept in > touch by snail mail, yet now with email, websites and groups, the feeling of > community of the past isn't there. It feels more like competition. > Personally I gave up trying to sell printed zines; now I have free online > comic books in full color by various talents and no one reads them. > > Then again, Jim Main, a member of this Group is still publshing new material > and getting contributions, so there's seems to be some spark of what was > once called "Fandom" left. > > T!M > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Burbank396@netscape.net Sun May 10 07:24:22 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 53559 invoked by uid 7800); 10 May 2009 14:24:20 -0000 X-Sender: Burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60774 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 13:00:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 13:00:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 13:00:03 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 12:59:08 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 12:59:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:59:07 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.158.221.203 From: "Dean Sweatman" Subject: Hello X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=PYrsqyC_8K1Kq7wO-pWcRS5pe0N7LS_v_l2m5TtRf-O32GyBYA X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 10 May 2009 14:24:20 -0000 1960s era fan that wandered in sez Hello. Will lurk a while to see whats going on. Interests: Super Heroes mainly Golden and Silver ages Looking for fans of that era from Denton Texas. Gary Lancaster and Steven = Speake. (You never know someone may know of them and will give em my @dress= ) I tracked down the editor to THE SYMBOL fanzine a while back. From robimes@yahoo.com Sun May 10 08:31:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16711 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 15:31:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 15:31:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.179) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 15:31:06 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 46258 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2009 15:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <103431.45982.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YXvWbv8VM1kwPbGbsb2ao.cOFLC3nPLsVeWTw.M9K._JWJWKg4tBuNgjgUXsIFUuI0KtNr6cVfwExICSYaFqmRVW3gx.wc1hDsYPMzld7yoqbfRCqPgETUj5LrqD88hW8bvFcm0EdMah_dgoBRbzl6VyLtsXMbT92j86ZY4tg9FAa_VJldoqdPPK6WTlu8L_d6p8QlYvdZqIOM64hnbZafP3Hh0uFYsoIjv9GTe25BoXBjX45qnKyjS58bRZdqReXFyfWsKCdtrCx1CK8EaGqWxzafFogJN.zRzHwa.DEODhIdSwQlAcWtRHHqfxedSMwgYK48755a2pVdkdTPtkuNZIDBaxBbEBMjsgh61QFGfAB9C4PM08aefL4MrcrNEdMqw14fvb X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 May 2009 08:30:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.179 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=GCe-wJcAQgn0cVE6Hf9LrCKgFjS3SIbmgRlqgbZdI2BBcg X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes > When I bought zines in the old days > each one was put together by the people who made it. The > entire thing was a work of art just for the love of doing > it. They didn't send it out to be printed, folded, stapled > etc. There are many people who still do all that themselves. Last week, J. Kevin Carrier's Fantasy Theatre #19 came out, which is a photocopied comic. I don't know if Kevin has someone fold it for him, etc., but it looks like something that can be done on one's own, at one's local Kinko's, etc. It's a great read, with 3 separate complete sci-fi/hero adventure stories. You can find out more info, and sample pages from the first story in the issue, at http://www.smallpresssyndicate.com I can tell you that my own fanzine, Ditkomania, is definitely "printed, folded, stapled, etc." by me. I even number (with a red pen) the inside of each issue. The print run is 200 copies of each issue, so that is a LOT of folding, stapling, and numbering to do. If I was able to afford to have someone else do it, I'd gladly do so, since it's a heck of a lot of work. Whenever an issue comes out, I usually stay awake all night (no sleep) putting the issues together so I can get them mailed out in a timely fashion. I'm still somewhat young (age 38) so I have some energy to do all of this, but not as much as I did back in my 20's. And as I get older, I'll likely have even less energy to do it all myself. That folding/stapling aspect probably contributed to some small-pressers giving up publishing altogether, not looking forward to hours and hours of that laborous process. So, it's fortunate that their outlets to allow people to print up a professional looking product without having to do it all themselves. > I don't know if it's just me-but there was something > special in that. If I wanted something a company printed > work I would just buy a comic. > I like it when little one-man small-press zines treat themselves as small press, with that personal touch, and don't try to emulate the big companies by pretending to be a big faceless corporation. Heck, I wish more of the big comics companies had less of a corporate look, and went back to a more personal touch (with letters pages, etc.). Rob Imes From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 10:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95186 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 17:45:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 17:45:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 17:45:53 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 17:45:34 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 17:45:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:45:31 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: Hello X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=0CpOzVRvPt3KNWsuxI4Mdmclr3YQmDWcipUXdS_9p-4fMrfo X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Dang--you sound like you're as old as me --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Sweatman" = wrote: > > 1960s era fan that wandered in sez Hello. >=20 > Will lurk a while to see whats going on. >=20 > Interests: Super Heroes mainly Golden and Silver ages >=20 > Looking for fans of that era from Denton Texas. Gary Lancaster and Steve= n Speake. (You never know someone may know of them and will give em my @dre= ss) >=20 > I tracked down the editor to THE SYMBOL fanzine a while back. > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 12:11:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70585 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 19:11:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 19:11:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 19:11:07 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 19:11:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 19:11:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:11:04 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Ditko and Kirby... vs ...Stan Lee X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=1mHUNnFqvFPqxPQ-wVQwpFTHgvMYKr0wfduRB9b7O-si6kKe X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g I am old and maybe my memory is failing me but as I recall things it was St= eve Ditko and Jack Kirby that made Marvel and created the characters. Howev= er, today it seems that most people think it was Stan Lee. Is my memory bad or are they wrong? From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 12:18:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42878 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 19:18:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 19:18:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 19:18:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 19:17:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 19:17:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:17:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=_tPOTH-DcsJMO3DNpE79OxM6CRUyWYALg2mYa2gozn82MUZi X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Somebody mentioned they were a member of "UFO." What exactly is that (ok--o= k--I know it means unidentified flying object)? Is there anything on the In= ternet? There used to be a lot of APA's out there where actual printed stuff was ma= iled. I haven't seen any of those in years From mclegg@rock.com Sun May 10 13:33:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg@rock.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59595 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 20:33:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 20:33:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound1-2.us4.outblaze.com) (208.36.123.130) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 20:33:26 -0000 X-Received: from wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com.int (wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com.int [192.168.8.90]) by outbound1-2.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id CE4F85C0FBEC for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:32:16 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.131) by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 10 May 2009 20:32:16 -0000 X-Received: by ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 964F1440F2; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:32:16 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:32:16 -0700 X-Received: from [130.65.109.102] by ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for mclegg@rock.com; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:32:16 -0700 X-Originating-Server: ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com X-Ob-Auth: mclegg:rock.com@rock.com Message-Id: <20090510203216.964F1440F2@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Originating-IP: 208.36.123.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Mark Clegg" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=316538944; y=xfpVG96YoGBFGsGGgSYRZom2aSTzS_dYvl7Z3v_fDGAFxkWnGi8 X-Yahoo-Profile: mclegg_2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've written a 72+ page paper that describes the rise and fall of the directsales market, amongst other things. The reason I wrote it is explained in the opening paragraph, but that doesn't need to concern you. An edited draft of the paper can be obtained for free at:http://www.filedropper.com/1978cleggintrounderstandingcomics2a --Mark Clegg ----- Original Message ----- From: tim_tt2 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:27:08 -0000 Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless it was a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 that only had the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would only carry those early "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some change, picking out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go "That'll be $ 2.52" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to put 1 or 2 back. What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and companies in the 90s didn't help. I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on it and 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they are long gone with very few left in the city. T!M --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote: > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from nowadays. > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a dictionary to keep up with the characters. > > What killed comics anyway? > -- You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of Storage! http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 15:07:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28784 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 22:07:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 22:07:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 22:07:28 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 22:07:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2009 22:07:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:07:22 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <103431.45982.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=B1lkLOTcn0SWUIWGxHprAJSfLJmMdVtkz--Ba0s3yw2X8jQO X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g a ton of stuff. Thanks-I added it to by favorites. I'm old and living on a = fixed income but if I get 13 bucks ahead..... --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > >=20 > > When I bought zines in the old days > > each one was put together by the people who made it. The > > entire thing was a work of art just for the love of doing > > it. They didn't send it out to be printed, folded, stapled > > etc. >=20 > There are many people who still do all that themselves. Last week, J. Ke= vin Carrier's Fantasy Theatre #19 came out, which is a photocopied comic. = I don't know if Kevin has someone fold it for him, etc., but it looks like = something that can be done on one's own, at one's local Kinko's, etc. It's= a great read, with 3 separate complete sci-fi/hero adventure stories. You= can find out more info, and sample pages from the first story in the issue= , at > http://www.smallpresssyndicate.com >=20 > I can tell you that my own fanzine, Ditkomania, is definitely "printed, f= olded, stapled, etc." by me. I even number (with a red pen) the inside of = each issue. The print run is 200 copies of each issue, so that is a LOT of= folding, stapling, and numbering to do. If I was able to afford to have s= omeone else do it, I'd gladly do so, since it's a heck of a lot of work. W= henever an issue comes out, I usually stay awake all night (no sleep) putti= ng the issues together so I can get them mailed out in a timely fashion. I= 'm still somewhat young (age 38) so I have some energy to do all of this, b= ut not as much as I did back in my 20's. And as I get older, I'll likely h= ave even less energy to do it all myself. That folding/stapling aspect pro= bably contributed to some small-pressers giving up publishing altogether, n= ot looking forward to hours and hours of that laborous process. So, it's f= ortunate that their outlets to allow people to print up a professional > looking product without having to do it all themselves.=20=20=20=20 >=20 > > I don't know if it's just me-but there was something > > special in that. If I wanted something a company printed > > work I would just buy a comic. > >=20 >=20 > I like it when little one-man small-press zines treat themselves as small= press, with that personal touch, and don't try to emulate the big companie= s by pretending to be a big faceless corporation. Heck, I wish more of the= big comics companies had less of a corporate look, and went back to a more= personal touch (with letters pages, etc.).=20=20 >=20 > Rob Imes > From greene68@yahoo.com Sun May 10 15:36:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43973 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 22:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 22:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.20) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 22:36:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 12076 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2009 22:36:04 -0000 Message-ID: <104732.11023.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xi81bVcVM1ntNO2BXJDFlDweVMnNLNRvihsBUoDpNG0PLHMJaWUe98th8DWN6ajvwYc8whqq7wHI1UWtbm6_DLQMk53X9H2eMoGgZjuWxS3suVVRlMtVDTx8FH.C5LqlK7rUb2AAvAJiIup0bgf2jb4J93jxth7a4MkDhyLft0zshxJAvMfvR_INwAtWU_i1QlYlQ4CeEy0H8P1Q2e4yORVEX3AUK3PDp0hyhbAruG4JAEFxBLF8113TRfG2tO231pyKlARVDJwb8gdE49LzW_Xt8WZ.edtDJ.caXu2bRWVNmCK_XJbbywyY2WoIpE7Qa_OEbumI.tGXowWqk5mAxXpW0I2NhQXA8XD3Q4OUNjuzNRE- X-Received: from [63.214.229.102] by web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:36:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:36:03 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.20 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Reply-To: greene68@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=F9JJV59JXc2u8xpHDFYlUSZO2KIfZHipLAqktOT9WZncIM4 X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, Mr. Imes=A0recollects the letters-to-the editor pages in comics.=A0For = the publishers, that=A0was great interaction with the readers, wasn't it? I= remember writing dozens and dozens=A0of letters, hoping to see mine in pri= nt, which I did a few times, in Marvel and DC books. Some of you may recall= that DC rewarded authors of published letters with original pages of art. = My pride-in-joy was an original Kubert "Hawkman" page.=20 =A0 Publishers may want to take a fresh look at the idea of "readers write" pag= es again, as part of their relationship marketing strategy. =A0 Keith Greene =A0 --- On Sun, 5/10/09, tinroad6g wrote: From: tinroad6g Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 6:07 PM a ton of stuff. Thanks-I added it to by favorites. I'm old and living on a = fixed income but if I get 13 bucks ahead..... --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups. com, Rob Imes wrote: > >=20 > > When I bought zines in the old days > > each one was put together by the people who made it. The > > entire thing was a work of art just for the love of doing > > it. They didn't send it out to be printed, folded, stapled > > etc. >=20 > There are many people who still do all that themselves. Last week, J. Kev= in Carrier's Fantasy Theatre #19 came out, which is a photocopied comic. I = don't know if Kevin has someone fold it for him, etc., but it looks like so= mething that can be done on one's own, at one's local Kinko's, etc. It's a = great read, with 3 separate complete sci-fi/hero adventure stories. You can= find out more info, and sample pages from the first story in the issue, at > http://www.smallpre sssyndicate. com >=20 > I can tell you that my own fanzine, Ditkomania, is definitely "printed, f= olded, stapled, etc." by me. I even number (with a red pen) the inside of e= ach issue. The print run is 200 copies of each issue, so that is a LOT of f= olding, stapling, and numbering to do. If I was able to afford to have some= one else do it, I'd gladly do so, since it's a heck of a lot of work. Whene= ver an issue comes out, I usually stay awake all night (no sleep) putting t= he issues together so I can get them mailed out in a timely fashion. I'm st= ill somewhat young (age 38) so I have some energy to do all of this, but no= t as much as I did back in my 20's. And as I get older, I'll likely have ev= en less energy to do it all myself. That folding/stapling aspect probably c= ontributed to some small-pressers giving up publishing altogether, not look= ing forward to hours and hours of that laborous process. So, it's fortunate= that their outlets to allow people to print up a professional > looking product without having to do it all themselves.=20 >=20 > > I don't know if it's just me-but there was something > > special in that. If I wanted something a company printed > > work I would just buy a comic. > >=20 >=20 > I like it when little one-man small-press zines treat themselves as small= press, with that personal touch, and don't try to emulate the big companie= s by pretending to be a big faceless corporation. Heck, I wish more of the = big comics companies had less of a corporate look, and went back to a more = personal touch (with letters pages, etc.).=20 >=20 > Rob Imes > =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Sun May 10 15:41:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 54527 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 22:41:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 22:41:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.191) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 22:41:20 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 84898 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2009 22:41:20 -0000 Message-ID: <69104.83659.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pgBPy3QVM1n8BInGANNzs3KPR6gdGf3w4k45.xFxMfvmOxA6tq9mG8E9dsOHIbwWdzJVOS1Jc1idPmDq2NwXCyrwg71XkLInRMm1sG98HNr_tIj2han9yLSABHMLgw0HjT_q7zzg3dzL7rxGYPTNugM2u964G2OHs6EZ33gJHhR6GnS.md5jHsOQgTnCaSSUsV5KdWkB0g0ZKFk.Gz59DLXTERw4tNWlnBQzmlCyxn5OXvKbW_H1wef2amzQ6IqMcnCCDH5.d4yk9HSeVyum.1nne5o3CihgEkqNszDZqWd_vZIgc1rPvmk1fVu44rAYwwghQufygvK2x.oiaUmYU9QStXOgY0bhzHe3A56RagNc X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:41:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:41:19 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=NlrJpDj-980RjFe9nFl4KZh68n6h2V3Yt6V4PTs_k5T_aw X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes > Somebody mentioned they were a member > of "UFO." What exactly is that (ok--ok--I know it means > unidentified flying object)? Is there anything on the > Internet? > The UFO is the United Fanzine Organization, a co-op of small-press zine (and/or fanzine) publishers. The official website is at http://www.unitedfanzineorganization.moonfruit.com/ The site hasn't been updated in a few months, though, unfortunately. The UFO has a looonnng history. It began as the BPP (Blue Plaque Publications) in 1969 when Carl Gafford formed it. Six issues of the original BPP Newsletter were published, until the group disbanded circa 1973. Steve Keeter's application to the group had been accepted at the end, though, and he decided to revive the group in December 1973 as Blue Phoenix Publications (with Jim Main as one of the first members). In 1974, the name of the group was changed to the UFO. By the late 1970s, many prozines had joined the group (including The Comics Journal) and by 1980 the UFO was disbanded. In 1984, Jim Main revived the UFO, and as far as I know it has been going on ever since. Main and Keeter are currently UFO members again, as are a few other "old-timers" like Jim Pack and J. Kevin Carrier. There are other co-ops still in operation today besides the UFO, too, such as the BPP (which had been revived by Keeter and Main in 1999, during a period when they were no longer in the UFO) as well as the SPS (Small Press Syndicate). If anyone is interested in more info on any of this stuff, feel free to email me at robimes@yahoo.com > There used to be a lot of APA's out there where actual > printed stuff was mailed. I haven't seen any of those in > years > There are still APAs being done, although I'm not part of an APA and never have been. I do receive (in trade) the individual "zines" (APA contributions) of Dwight Decker (TORCH) and Christoph Melchert (SHOCKWAVE). I forget what APA those are produced for. I know that longtime fan artist Greg Turner is the central mailer for the Legion of Super-Heroes APA; he sent me a couple of recent issues of the Legion APA last year. Rob Imes From robimes@yahoo.com Sun May 10 16:22:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 7595 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 23:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 23:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.185) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 23:22:44 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 20075 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2009 23:21:41 -0000 Message-ID: <597450.20055.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RYN5qB4VM1mWq2WffShHHi53AzKvKi.pMmTJm44qT.hvkI1BpR.bnVlH7yshMFTtrAzgEeFecGxfa06qNqiWrxyC9Z7IRz98rVLmNOQ66yIo4qxm4e1WKukSW7SE39IO269ubKhbCrdTOrk9htC2QUlQGDG_ekqJRy_mxcaqJPWN6Ypw8uoS7zVhyOU1CJGT7haNeJcn0clBy9ISR2htdwXAoTb.QqWvYIugexv_k8e.gejVBol0FIsf.KCzKVOUKC2IUb.ODZy3lTeui26qwffoqxLy7PvJ7MaiENPHiK6ntjaSZjXS5OeVLZvXlqz3r0cjYek- X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 May 2009 16:21:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=RxpiliXcTFR3RzUEeIfrHKnVQml9UarUT-7IdfVTPireRQ X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes > =A0 > Publishers may want to take a fresh look at the idea of > "readers write" pages again, as part of their relationship > marketing strategy. > =A0 I don't understand why there aren't more letterpages these days. "Amazing = Spider-Man" is one of the few that has one, and it seems like they are cons= ciously trying to keep it alive. I know "New Exiles" had one when it got r= ebooted late last year, not sure if it still does. A few years ago, I thin= k Marvel was trying to get lettercols back in their books (shortly after DC= dropped all of their lettercols), but perhaps there weren't enough people = writing in. I've said this before, but I'll say it again... A lot of "niche" books woul= d definitely benefit from having a letters page. It would help generate en= thusiasm and discussion among fans, and let them see what their fellow fans= are saying. A comic like "Booster Gold" needs a letters page -- heck, I'd= probably understand more of what is going on in "Booster Gold" if it had o= ne (because there are likely little nods to past comics in there that I don= 't catch, since the series has Booster traveling through time and encounter= ing characters throughout DC history). Also, smaller companies like IDW could benefit from having letterpages. Wh= at IDW has now, instead of letter pages, are a bunch of IDW ad pages at the= back of each issue. I tend to skip by that in a hurry. Put a lettercol o= pposite one of those ad pages, and my eye might be drawn to it a little lon= ger. Also, such a lettercol could help drum up the troops in favor of thei= r company's product, the same way that Marvel's letter pages did back in th= e 1960s. People wouldn't feel like they are the only ones buying the comic= . Rob Imes =20=20=20=20=20=20 From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Sun May 10 16:47:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53679 invoked from network); 10 May 2009 23:47:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2009 23:47:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.121) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2009 23:47:27 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090510234700229.FNYT17201@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:47:00 +0000 To: References: <69104.83659.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <69104.83659.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:46:29 -0400 Message-ID: <8FB707F427324E18806AACBA05D31A74@DimestoreA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnRwHQwKwRfHnzWQPWT+jMxCGke2wACPjDA X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=Sg3QHThsQGZCO0TxUXleefuISIiiq_KLRElOYblwJuiriQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I run the Self Publisher Association (SPA) - We started that up in 2000.... Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Imes Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:41 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO > Somebody mentioned they were a member > of "UFO." What exactly is that (ok--ok--I know it means > unidentified flying object)? Is there anything on the > Internet? > The UFO is the United Fanzine Organization, a co-op of small-press zine (and/or fanzine) publishers. The official website is at http://www.unitedfa nzineorganization.moonfruit.com/ The site hasn't been updated in a few months, though, unfortunately. The UFO has a looonnng history. It began as the BPP (Blue Plaque Publications) in 1969 when Carl Gafford formed it. Six issues of the original BPP Newsletter were published, until the group disbanded circa 1973. Steve Keeter's application to the group had been accepted at the end, though, and he decided to revive the group in December 1973 as Blue Phoenix Publications (with Jim Main as one of the first members). In 1974, the name of the group was changed to the UFO. By the late 1970s, many prozines had joined the group (including The Comics Journal) and by 1980 the UFO was disbanded. In 1984, Jim Main revived the UFO, and as far as I know it has been going on ever since. Main and Keeter are currently UFO members again, as are a few other "old-timers" like Jim Pack and J. Kevin Carrier. There are other co-ops still in operation today besides the UFO, too, such as the BPP (which had been revived by Keeter and Main in 1999, during a period when they were no longer in the UFO) as well as the SPS (Small Press Syndicate). If anyone is interested in more info on any of this stuff, feel free to email me at robimes@yahoo. com > There used to be a lot of APA's out there where actual > printed stuff was mailed. I haven't seen any of those in > years > There are still APAs being done, although I'm not part of an APA and never have been. I do receive (in trade) the individual "zines" (APA contributions) of Dwight Decker (TORCH) and Christoph Melchert (SHOCKWAVE). I forget what APA those are produced for. I know that longtime fan artist Greg Turner is the central mailer for the Legion of Super-Heroes APA; he sent me a couple of recent issues of the Legion APA last year. Rob Imes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Sun May 10 17:04:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 54471 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 00:04:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 00:04:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 00:04:37 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 00:04:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 00:04:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:04:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <104732.11023.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=zsHrOyCQBP9NsYqkLZLHbUMc-NcOpNLS4k8M6aivalEAsRbG X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g tin I remember those pages. Yeah, it looks like a great thing to bring back. He= ck, I didn't know art pages were given away. I would have wrote if I had. I= know Marvel always gave the "No prize" award for things Keith Ah, Mr. Imes recollects the letters-to-the editor pages in comics. For the publishers, that was great interaction with the readers, wasn't it? I remem= ber writing dozens and dozens of letters, hoping to see mine in print, which I = did a few times, in Marvel and DC books. Some of you may recall that DC rewarded authors of published letters with original pages of art. My pride-in-joy wa= s an original Kubert "Hawkman" page. =20 Publishers may want to take a fresh look at the idea of "readers write" pag= es again, as part of their relationship marketing strategy. =20 Keith Greene =20 From Burbank396@netscape.net Sun May 10 20:20:33 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95069 invoked by uid 7800); 11 May 2009 03:20:29 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12132 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 00:12:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 00:12:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 00:12:33 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a076d46115; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:12:01 -0400 X-Received: from burbank396@netscape.net by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d25.4d23234a (37115) for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:11:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.148]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA011-5c5b4a076d3dde; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:11:46 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MY03 (webmail-my03.sim.aol.com [64.12.108.14]) by smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB011-5c5b4a076d3dde; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:11:41 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:11:41 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.158.221.203 by WEBMAIL-MY03.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.14) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 10 May 2009 20:11:41 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB9FE4319A1D4F-AC4-2A99@WEBMAIL-MY03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=8IBgaiAkt2TfQQefypOuldIu7mW8f8rFquSFb0d8LzGJPhH-ZQ X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 11 May 2009 03:20:29 -0000 I think it was a policy that Julie Swartz had.? Until Katrina blew through town a couple of years ago and wiped me out I still had a couple of post cards?(Form letter type) from?DC in response to some letters I wrote. FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 10 May 2009 7:04 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines tin I remember those pages. Yeah, it looks like a great thing to bring back. Heck, I didn't know art pages were given away. I would have wrote if I had. I know Marvel always gave the "No prize" award for things Keith Ah, Mr. Imes recollects the letters-to-the editor pages in comics. For the publishers, that was great interaction with the readers, wasn't it? I remember writing dozens and dozens of letters, hoping to see mine in print, which I did a few times, in Marvel and DC books. Some of you may recall that DC rewarded authors of published letters with original pages of art. My pride-in-joy was an original Kubert "Hawkman" page. Publishers may want to take a fresh look at the idea of "readers write" pages again, as part of their relationship marketing strategy. Keith Greene [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Sun May 10 21:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16997 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 04:22:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 04:22:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 04:22:32 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a07a7e32a3; Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:55 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d21.4fa170e1 (34931) for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA044-5c454a07a7d2296; Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:41 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M27 (fwm-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.229]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA013-5c454a07a7d2296; Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:38 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:38 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: <8CB9FE4319A1D4F-AC4-2A99@WEBMAIL-MY03.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA0071CB74451-780-4F37@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=8LYEEBa8vhYM6Io8ewhOQbv0Piz9GSY561Nzk4YK7kMu3g X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll say one thing...this is the most amount of posting I've seen here in this group for a long time. GJ -----Original Message----- From: Dean Sweatman To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 10 May 2009 8:11 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines I think it was a policy that Julie Swartz had.? Until Katrina blew through town a couple of years ago and wiped me out I still had a couple of post cards?(Form letter type) from?DC in response to some letters I wrote. FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 10 May 2009 7:04 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] The love in old zines tin I remember those pages. Yeah, it looks like a great thing to bring back. Heck, I didn't know art pages were given away. I would have wrote if I had. I know Marvel always gave the "No prize" award for things Keith Ah, Mr. Imes recollects the letters-to-the editor pages in comics. For the publishers, that was great interaction with the readers, wasn't it? I remember writing dozens and dozens of letters, hoping to see mine in print, which I did a few times, in Marvel and DC books. Some of you may recall that DC rewarded authors of published letters with original pages of art. My pride-in-joy was an original Kubert "Hawkman" page. Publishers may want to take a fresh look at the idea of "readers write" pages again, as part of their relationship marketing strategy. Keith Greene [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Mon May 11 01:17:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40841 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 08:17:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 08:17:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 08:17:24 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 08:17:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 08:17:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:17:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.209.34 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=624ADtrOoDGwIS3DD-YU3Qci45N5GMkxafQEPZJUt6apsg X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote= : > > Are you the Tim that ran 3Cs with Jeff Cooke?????? Yes and have been running a Group called SonOf3Cs since right after 3Cs got= mysteriously deleted. T!M From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 03:38:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82576 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 10:38:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 10:38:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 10:38:16 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 10:38:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 10:38:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:38:06 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Art in zines--Problem #1--What is it X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=nxVoEyAMdur1wZeK13nrUr9dLr8Zg_6Qz58xCWDZKHLqd98F X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Most artists hate criticism (egos I guess). I'm no different. Without point= ing to a particular zine let me say this.... I've been looking through my old zines and checking the art. My opinion-- There are a lot of terms for it but the art is under inked. There is not en= ough contrast. Many of them are just outlines of characters; Shadows are no= t drawn or inked. The art looks flat and two dimensional I think this is even worse than having just talking heads. Do artists just hate inking or what? What do you think is the worst mistake= zine artists make? From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 04:31:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64326 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 11:31:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 11:31:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.188) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 11:31:24 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 11:31:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 11:31:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:31:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090510203216.964F1440F2@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.188 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=A5uNMaAqmMnCI9j9uRDInrRDGd4oY6gd9sbDqsErZlEGBcnl X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g I know that, for me, the reason I don't run out and buy 10 comics today is-= my pockets are not deep enough. Comics are just too high for me to afford.W= hen I was young I would buy 10 at a time but not now. Then-I would buy one "unknown" just to see what it was like. Now I have to = know it's one that I want. I don't give unknowns a chance But--that might be just me=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Clegg" wrote: > > I've written a 72+ page paper that describes the rise and fall of the > directsales market, amongst other things. The reason I wrote it is > explained in the opening paragraph, but that doesn't need to concern you. > An edited draft of the paper can be obtained for free at:http://www.filed= ropper.com/1978cleggintrounderstandingcomics2a > --Mark Clegg >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tim_tt2 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? > Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:27:08 -0000 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless > it was a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 > that only had the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would > only carry those early "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. >=20 > I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some > change, picking out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go > "That'll be $ 2.52" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to > put 1 or 2 back. >=20 > What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and > companies in the 90s didn't help. >=20 > I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on > it and 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they > are long gone with very few left in the city. >=20 > T!M >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" > wrote: > > > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what > kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. > > > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > > > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several > comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. > > > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from > nowadays. > > > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a > dictionary to keep up with the characters. > > > > What killed comics anyway? > > >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20 > --=20 > You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of= Storage! >=20 > http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Mon May 11 04:49:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9056 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 11:49:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 11:49:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.123) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 11:49:13 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090511114847554.DNDT13493@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:48:47 +0000 To: References: <20090510203216.964F1440F2@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 07:48:16 -0400 Message-ID: <82DD2972F05C411E925DB20B0EB72067@DimestoreA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnSLAm0QMlIdrHWROCNvPPvToCHqQAAhW9g X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.123 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=LNDLFMPa8MPlAsTIvR7Gk9VOZAnP8Nymc7fd0YH9PGJZXw X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dimestore now has a downloadables system where you can get full comics free and then you can decide if it's a comic you want to add to your collection, and get a physical copy later. Check out our Distro site.... www.dimestoredistro.com Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:31 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? I know that, for me, the reason I don't run out and buy 10 comics today is-my pockets are not deep enough. Comics are just too high for me to afford.When I was young I would buy 10 at a time but not now. Then-I would buy one "unknown" just to see what it was like. Now I have to know it's one that I want. I don't give unknowns a chance But--that might be just me --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "Mark Clegg" wrote: > > I've written a 72+ page paper that describes the rise and fall of the > directsales market, amongst other things. The reason I wrote it is > explained in the opening paragraph, but that doesn't need to concern you. > An edited draft of the paper can be obtained for free at:http://www.filedrop per.com/1978cleggintrounderstandingcomics2a > --Mark Clegg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tim_tt2 > To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? > Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:27:08 -0000 > > > > Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless > it was a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 > that only had the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would > only carry those early "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. > > I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some > change, picking out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go > "That'll be $ 2.52" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to > put 1 or 2 back. > > What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and > companies in the 90s didn't help. > > I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on > it and 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they > are long gone with very few left in the city. > > T!M > > --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" > wrote: > > > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what > kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. > > > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > > > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several > comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. > > > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from > nowadays. > > > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a > dictionary to keep up with the characters. > > > > What killed comics anyway? > > > > > > -- > You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of Storage! > > http://webmail. rock.com/signup/ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 07:58:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59458 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 14:57:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 14:57:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 14:57:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 14:57:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 14:57:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:57:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=ayegh7r5qhWdbwn8peIHfpLOzm2BvAjIgCYKyEtB-A_hsfep X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g When I click the button that supposed to give info about joining it goes to= a page that just sits there and never finishes loading. Is it my computer = or the site From robimes@yahoo.com Mon May 11 08:10:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37734 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 15:10:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 15:10:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.177) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 15:10:49 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 27345 invoked by uid 60001); 11 May 2009 15:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <40348.23917.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q08nlnwVM1klOEa06hk5yAuLw5Wgm4FAkzj_WvhcNy9hBKkH91EZBLLRD7Em.iL36TkF_Vv8Uxm3fVx9.MSaEHB2CfzUc23crrVxetuEUNbneeRhVjQY36S6ABM8V2q0HgmbMcZLqWH8Lr_9jPGZd3_0wvzydrjpkJswgTk5Hq6VvXB16X2tMC9UNhyBq7Wog8vrlfr5qykUrWWYdLsjiyf5imC6mUq8.O.NwXmrcGuLbkEE9ArLBAmPZX0pOjK8wFTs7a.VxvbcGttN4MApfIw57IqVtQVFX5VWyp0KGFTKgNJ9K963Ym_dyZF2SCWpOouYqzo- X-Received: from [75.118.245.148] by web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:10:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:10:48 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.177 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Rob Imes Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=jO7zqGZsyKfMMR5pGElBys3bhm_qjfqEzgu_lwPfw941HQ X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes Hi, UFO Chairman Nic Carcieri may still be working on the page or something. All I see is a poster of Uncle Sam on the "Join" page, saying "we want you to join," etc. The following is taken from an old UFO site: "Interested in UFO membership? Simply contact the current Chairman, Jim Coon, and you can get started in the application process! What should you expect from your application process? It's very easy. You'll be instructed to send each of the current members of the club a copy of your most recent work (you can send other samples as well, if you'd like), and the Chairman wil put your name on the voting grid that appears in our bi-monthly newsletter, Tetragrammaton Fragments. The UFO members will then vote, based on the quality of your samples, and if you've put your best foot forward, you'll be in! Membership dues are $20.00 per year. Other requirements for membership can be found in the UFO Constitution on our "About" page." Hope that helps, Rob Imes From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 08:32:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17292 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 15:32:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 15:32:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 15:32:08 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 15:31:26 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 15:31:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:31:25 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <40348.23917.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=9ULbQPHYXnCMP-8mhkx-ChGN6xxbtHDMM2xIo3X4Ex-KdcvV X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Thanks--sounds like an APA (kinda). Sounds like a fun thing. Think I might = start working on something to send in. 20 bucks is kinda high but it looks = like it might be worth it --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > >=20 > Hi, >=20 > UFO Chairman Nic Carcieri may still be working on the page or something. = All I see is a poster of Uncle Sam on the "Join" page, saying "we want you= to join," etc.=20=20 >=20 > The following is taken from an old UFO site: >=20 > "Interested in UFO membership? Simply contact the current Chairman, Jim C= oon, and you can get started in the application process! What should you ex= pect from your application process? It's very easy. You'll be instructed to= send each of the current members of the club a copy of your most recent wo= rk (you can send other samples as well, if you'd like), and the Chairman wi= l put your name on the voting grid that appears in our bi-monthly newslette= r, Tetragrammaton Fragments. The UFO members will then vote, based on the q= uality of your samples, and if you've put your best foot forward, you'll be= in! Membership dues are $20.00 per year. Other requirements for membership= can be found in the UFO Constitution on our "About" page." >=20 > Hope that helps, >=20 > Rob Imes > From mclegg@rock.com Mon May 11 09:00:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: mclegg@rock.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13557 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 16:00:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 16:00:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound1-2.us4.outblaze.com) (208.36.123.130) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 16:00:28 -0000 X-Received: from wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com.int (wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com.int [192.168.8.90]) by outbound1-2.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 008245C0FB59 for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:59:25 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.16) by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 11 May 2009 15:59:25 -0000 X-Received: by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD5A17BD5A; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:59:22 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:59:22 -0700 X-Received: from [130.65.109.102] by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com with http for mclegg@rock.com; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:59:22 -0700 X-Originating-Server: ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com X-Ob-Auth: mclegg:rock.com@rock.com Message-Id: <20090511155922.CD5A17BD5A@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> X-Originating-IP: 208.36.123.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Mark Clegg" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=316538944; y=QLv9S25FiiS-mpeej29JEGEY53bcLjHmB8Gl_03Y-aNpSsEhpjo X-Yahoo-Profile: mclegg_2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For me until 1986 it was easy to keep fully abreast of everythng offered in the market and still have time for other activities and interests. Since then we have been flooded by product. Enriched, but broke. ----- Original Message ----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:31:02 -0000 I know that, for me, the reason I don't run out and buy 10 comics today is-my pockets are not deep enough. Comics are just too high for me to afford.When I was young I would buy 10 at a time but not now. Then-I would buy one "unknown" just to see what it was like. Now I have to know it's one that I want. I don't give unknowns a chance But--that might be just me --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Clegg" wrote: > > I've written a 72+ page paper that describes the rise and fall of the > directsales market, amongst other things. The reason I wrote it is > explained in the opening paragraph, but that doesn't need to concern you. > An edited draft of the paper can be obtained for free at:http://www.filedropper.com/1978cleggintrounderstandingcomics2a > --Mark Clegg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tim_tt2 > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Re: OT: What killed comics? > Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:27:08 -0000 > > > > Hmm...I remember a time in the 70s that comic books got scarce unless > it was a newsstand or drugstore. I even recall a store around '75 > that only had the short lived Atlas/Seaboard comics....others would > only carry those early "ploybabgs" that had 3 comics in them. > > I clearly remember going to a newstand with 2 dollars and some > change, picking out my usual 10 titles and then having the cashier go > "That'll be $ 2.52" Comics had suddenly gone up 5 cents and I had to > put 1 or 2 back. > > What killed comics anyway? I'm not sure...but the glut of titles and > companies in the 90s didn't help. > > I live on a street in St Louis that once had 3 comic book stores on > it and 2 more nearby...one being the first of it's kinds...now they > are long gone with very few left in the city. > > T!M > > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" > wrote: > > > > At one time you couldn't go into any store, regardless of what > kinda store, without seeing a rack of comics. They were everywhere. > > > > I haven't seen a rack of comics in years. What happened? > > > > Was it the cost increase? If you had a dollar you could get several > comics when I was a kid. One comic now cost several dollars. > > > > Was it video games and the Internet? Kids have more to choose from > nowadays. > > > > Was it a glut on types of comics. It got to the point one needed a > dictionary to keep up with the characters. > > > > What killed comics anyway? > > > > > > -- > You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of Storage! > > http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > -- You Rock! Your E-Mail Should Too! Signup Now at Rock.com and get 250MB of Storage! http://webmail.rock.com/signup/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 09:34:14 2009 X-Deleted-Message: yes X-Deletion-Info: i=1912;u=;t=1242059692;m=1356524954;s=1788528110; From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 09:36:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44749 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 16:35:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2009 16:35:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:35:21 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: A common inking error? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=t1igVNrtXm87KBCY6ljp-cTtc0WuFpLGtJJZsiD30Fj0Za9n X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g A pro inker evaluated one of my zines years ago. He told me I needed to mak= e the lines thicker because when the art was reduced they would become too thin. That irritated me. I always SAY I want people to be honest about my work bu= t it still irritates me when they are. How dare they say something negative. I g= uess I'm really looking for "OOOOO, that's great." However, after I reduced one = of my drawings that HE inked I had to admit he was correct From jmain44@aol.com Mon May 11 15:43:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1859 invoked from network); 11 May 2009 22:43:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 May 2009 22:43:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.209) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 22:43:28 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-m07.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a08a975128; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:53 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.ce5.500ef45d (37115) for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA011-5c6b4a08a9642ba; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:41 -0400 X-Received: from webmail-mh44 (webmail-mh44.sim.aol.com [64.12.232.139]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB031-5c6b4a08a9642ba; Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:36 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:36 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by webmail-mh44.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.139) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 11 May 2009 18:40:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA0A0A2C8255B-E5C-D90@webmail-mh44.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.209 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=pCryS_eY93NDD4LANEHXyi9Gp52_6ad4Z87k6rI5qs037Q X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 20.00 is not high when you realize what you get in return. GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:31 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site Thanks--sounds like an APA (kinda). Sounds like a fun thing. Think I might start working on something to send in. 20 bucks is kinda high but it looks like it might be worth it --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > > > Hi, > > UFO Chairman Nic Carcieri may still be working on the page or something. All I see is a poster of Uncle Sam on the "Join" page, saying "we want you to join," etc. > > The following is taken from an old UFO site: > > "Interested in UFO membership? Simply contact the current Chairman, Jim Coon, and you can get started in the application process! What should you expect from your application process? It's very easy. You'll be instructed to send each of the current members of the club a copy of your most recent work (you can send other samples as well, if you'd like), and the Chairman wil put your name on the voting grid that appears in our bi-monthly newsletter, Tetragrammaton Fragments. The UFO members will then vote, based on the quality of your samples, and if you've put your best foot forward, you'll be in! Membership dues are $20.00 per year. Other requirements for membership can be found in the UFO Constitution on our "About" page." > > Hope that helps, > > Rob Imes > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 17:06:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65122 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 00:06:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 00:06:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.188) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 00:06:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 00:06:10 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.13] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 00:06:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:06:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA0A0A2C8255B-E5C-D90@webmail-mh44.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.188 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 204.117.145.194 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=691JccTeF2aL9Zua1PsEV2iSOf5XMfbBD-t44T4FoVZOI8tm X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g I'll probably work up something simple like a pinup zine of some female cha= racters I've done in the past. That way I would just do full page illos. Th= at way I would have something to submit Have you heard of any zines where several people are going together and doi= ng something like that? I once worked with a group where we all did the other person's characters a= nd not our own. That was a blast. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > 20.00 is not high when you realize what you get in return. > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:31 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks--sounds like an APA (kinda). Sounds like a fun thing. Think I migh= t start working on something to send in. 20 bucks is kinda high but it look= s like it might be worth it >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Rob Imes wrote: > > > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > UFO Chairman Nic Carcieri may still be working on the page or something= . All I see is a poster of Uncle Sam on the "Join" page, saying "we want yo= u to join," etc.=20 > >=20 > > The following is taken from an old UFO site: > >=20 > > "Interested in UFO membership? Simply contact the current Chairman, Jim= Coon, and you can get started in the application process! What should you = expect from your application process? It's very easy. You'll be instructed = to send each of the current members of the club a copy of your most recent = work (you can send other samples as well, if you'd like), and the Chairman = wil put your name on the voting grid that appears in our bi-monthly newslet= ter, Tetragrammaton Fragments. The UFO members will then vote, based on the= quality of your samples, and if you've put your best foot forward, you'll = be in! Membership dues are $20.00 per year. Other requirements for membersh= ip can be found in the UFO Constitution on our "About" page." > >=20 > > Hope that helps, > >=20 > > Rob Imes > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 11 21:04:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 54063 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 04:04:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 04:04:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 04:04:53 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 04:04:39 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 04:04:39 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:04:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.154 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Greatest comic? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=Z7Uv2U2y2wre9wODZ-DrSxYWeSR8p3dNghrIs3QrexOmnt2Z X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g As far as I know this comic has been made into movie serials once and other= than that it has never been on tv or the movies. However, I think it was o= ne of the greats... Blackhawk Some other great comic characters were... Tommy Tommorow The Purple Claw Brain boy Today's stories are not in their league From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 03:39:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63125 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 10:39:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 10:39:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 10:39:24 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 10:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 10:39:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:39:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Little known fact about Ditko X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=pRcxvYWzMO92ngVaZrgq7UpvIvFcrPHJUqRziKAI4DzvIr7A X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g That is unless you are a real Ditko fanatic... He did a few issues of Magnus the Robot Fighter From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue May 12 04:51:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41523 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 11:51:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 11:51:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m23.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.4) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 11:51:29 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0962723c4; Tue, 12 May 2009 07:50:10 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c96.3df7b46f (48552) for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:51:12 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Little known fact about Ditko X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=ANRbs_nM9ODPxnPIA0M5wYyVIibuu7elcOvfyhKSQex5dX2Nm1LNM6Jp X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/12/09 6:39:46 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > That is unless you are a real Ditko fanatic... > > He did a few issues of Magnus the Robot Fighter > -------------------- Beautifully inked by Ralph Reese, I believe, but not the "real" MAGNUS, which is the work of Russ Manning, though I like the Ditko version because it is Ditko's. --steve ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072& hmpgID=115&bcd=Mayfooter51209NO115) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 05:23:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63594 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 12:23:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 12:23:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 12:23:07 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 12:22:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.13] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 12:22:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:22:13 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Zines vs comics--who has the power X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=tVHTnPwBsIu640wzbX7itZfrQy2rlOgmh11pbIdJAD1w9vjk X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g An opinion... Comics are put out by companies. It is a forced environment. Everybody-and = I mean everybody--has one goal and works together to reach that goal. If th= ey don't keep their egos and goal in check they hit the road Zines are put out by individuals. Most (not all) have only the goal of prom= oting themselves and their talent. No contest! A group always has a better chance. There are groups to promote zines but most (not all) just want to make a bu= ck off the producers of zines. Even comic companies are failing now. Where does that put zines? Though com= ic zines have huge advantages over the companies that are out there they h= ave the MONSTEROUS disadvantage of EGO Some day-maybe--just maybe--a large group of talented individuals will come= together, lay their egos aside, decide on a goal and shock all of fandom. No- I don't REALLY believe that. It is total poop. Ego is one heck of a pro= blem to beat. It would be easier to overcome being a drug addict From jameshburns@webtv.net Tue May 12 08:06:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57957 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 15:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 15:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.136) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 15:06:03 -0000 X-Received: from storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id D8B67222D6 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (8.11.7+Sun/mt.gso.26Feb98) id n4CF32B06358; Tue, 12 May 2009 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRz+x9ugUyQCl0GUUSkYT2H38Np4gIVAMgSnu0EaeEeeC/vfSXA9evPu//Y Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:03:02 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <27244-4A098FA6-21121@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 11 May 2009 19:12:49 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Letter Columns... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=kppfcmQtzvmvsl35y4OEcIxoaoW_CPQ534Cd9yLXrn_MzBEQS5wY X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 What great fun that was, as a kid, to have a letter in a comic book! I was in a SHAZAM!, and a DEFENDERS. (I've thought, in recent years, that it would be neat to discover that there was another note that got published, that I*ve been unaware of!) By the way, interesting oddity. By the '70s, companies didn't give you any advanced notice that your letter had been published. It wasn't until you had the incredible joy of opening the book at the comics spinner, or comics rack, that you knew you had made the column! Come to think of it, I won five bucks for ARCHIE's news-reports-stories pages, as well! (And, in 1975, five bucks was pretty spiffy!) Sweet memories. Best, Jim From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 08:21:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63740 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 15:21:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 15:21:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 15:21:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 15:21:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 15:21:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:21:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Little known fact about Ditko X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=QEywxtEAr4hJIisQ092eIR4Jcu1QpZ9IQfCYPlAJEb1Ij-4i X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g tin Ah--a Ditko fan. I didn't like his really old stuff for the most part but I= don't think anyone did Spiderman better. His work and Frank Frazetta's got= me interested in art --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, AIRBOYO2@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 5/12/09 6:39:46 AM, tinroad6g@... writes: >=20 >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > That is unless you are a real Ditko fanatic... > >=20 > > He did a few issues of Magnus the Robot Fighter > >=20 >=20 > -------------------- > Beautifully inked by Ralph Reese, I believe, but not the "real" MAGNUS,=20 > which is the work of Russ Manning, though I like the Ditko version becaus= e it=20 > is Ditko's. > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just=20 > 2 easy steps!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir= =3Dhttp://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=3D668072& > hmpgID=3D115&bcd=3DMayfooter51209NO115) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue May 12 08:53:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79080 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 15:52:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 15:52:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 15:52:58 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m11.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a099b1613b; Tue, 12 May 2009 11:51:50 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cd5.4f2cdf4a (48552) for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 11:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:52:53 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Little known fact about Ditko X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=uHxs4u9r_QZiRGxVbKBaPA5P2e3QYsqqaVBerXhhVZD-57F9iNE83N4F X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/12/09 11:22:19 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > Ah--a Ditko fan. I didn't like his really old stuff for the most part but > I don't think anyone did Spiderman better. His work and Frank Frazetta's > got me interested in art > --------------------------------- I've been a Ditko fan since 1965 and recently got a stack of his recent work from his co-publisher Robin Snyder. His SPIDER-MAN is my favorite Spidey. --steve ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072& hmpgID=115&bcd=Mayfooter51209NO115) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 11:36:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89118 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 18:36:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 18:36:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 18:36:14 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 18:36:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 18:36:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:35:59 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=P_mgZDpEf_nv7pADehmgKH1xV5H-CVhIGDFlmRjBJyJqQfFI X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Somebody needs to do a zine like the original Amazing Fantasy. Each had sto= ries that were stand alone tales about monsters and space aliens. I remember the title "The Terror of Tim Boo Bah" or something like that. It= explained the terrible power of old Tim all through the story and then, at= the end, he and his world was wiped out by a drop of water or something. T= he terrible Tim and his world were microscopic From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Tue May 12 11:47:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13429 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 18:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 18:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.210) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 18:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a09c44042; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:47:28 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cd5.4f30cddb (48552) for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 14:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:48:33 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.210 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=Lz5MgZ_NpwHg4sNj_0kXNJ6NqkHYYBf89glNcsFWsV9LKcalJI9Us4iG X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/12/09 2:36:43 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Somebody needs to do a zine like the original Amazing Fantasy. Each had > stories that were stand alone tales about monsters and space aliens. > > I remember the title "The Terror of Tim Boo Bah" or something like that. > It explained the terrible power of old Tim all through the story and then, > at the end, he and his world was wiped out by a drop of water or something. > The terrible Tim and his world were microscopic > ----------------------- There is a Ditko drawn story with a creature on a slide that sounds similar to that, it may be called "Monstroso", but memory is not positive here. The title monster is cute in a weird way that only happened in comic books. --steve ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072& hmpgID=115&bcd=Mayfooter51209NO115) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Tue May 12 12:06:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86768 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 19:06:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 19:06:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.121) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 19:06:13 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090512190511167.VUTS19662@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 19:05:12 +0000 To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:04:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnTMIy/CpPGxFhnQ+6HJMy5wyz0eAAA8qRw X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=pydV1tqoZc-jRZ45EkC1apQdVcTpae3Kh0D6v9FnHAumIA X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do.... http://www.dimestoredistro.com/advanced_search_result.html?y=15 &x=24&inc_subcat=1&categories_id=3&search_in_description=1&keyword=Mysteriou s+Visions+Anthology Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:36 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] Amazing Fantasy Somebody needs to do a zine like the original Amazing Fantasy. Each had stories that were stand alone tales about monsters and space aliens. I remember the title "The Terror of Tim Boo Bah" or something like that. It explained the terrible power of old Tim all through the story and then, at the end, he and his world was wiped out by a drop of water or something. The terrible Tim and his world were microscopic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 13:41:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5087 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 20:41:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 20:41:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 20:41:00 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 20:40:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 20:40:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:40:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=EwcIF4X3EH7qMSqcRpu6xg0tIGjc0iY9am4OPc1Bv8Ie_NuC X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g I may have got them mixed up. It was the one where the monster is on the sl= ide. I always loved those type of stories. Both Ditko and Kirby cranked out= a lot of them. I think the quality of their art was down at that period du= e to the number of comics they were doing > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Somebody needs to do a zine like the original Amazing Fantasy. Each had= =20 > > stories that were stand alone tales about monsters and space aliens. > >=20 > > I remember the title "The Terror of Tim Boo Bah" or something like that= .=20 > > It explained the terrible power of old Tim all through the story and th= en,=20 > > at the end, he and his world was wiped out by a drop of water or someth= ing.=20 > > The terrible Tim and his world were microscopic > >=20 >=20 > ----------------------- > There is a Ditko drawn story with a creature on a slide that sounds simil= ar=20 > to that, it may be called "Monstroso", but memory is not positive here. > The title monster is cute in a weird way that only happened in comic book= s. > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just=20 > 2 easy steps!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322936x1201367173/aol?redir= =3Dhttp://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=3D668072& > hmpgID=3D115&bcd=3DMayfooter51209NO115) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 14:13:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78229 invoked from network); 12 May 2009 21:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2009 21:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 21:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 21:12:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2009 21:12:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:12:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA0A0A2C8255B-E5C-D90@webmail-mh44.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=RtJ7g7is76i9TpmFcDVVRrMmH2ZvTGT-zHCtUtXr3LJnLXEm X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g tin that would be a comparison. The comparison would be the twenty dollars vs w= hat you have in your wallet=20 20.00 is not high when you realize what you get in return. GJ From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Tue May 12 18:57:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98469 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 01:57:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 01:57:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 01:57:08 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 01:57:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 01:57:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:57:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=SiPZdwESLkX_EgAgG37JFZf5r6sy1LGtIcQDMichdCzcJS6h X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g My opinion--no contest--Bernie Wrightson From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 00:37:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46696 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 07:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 07:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 07:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 07:36:58 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 07:36:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:36:55 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=hpcfWkF1H2G5VYMyNkfDwikoXwufwyt0QEr7OnOv9_rREgLF X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a thin= g of the past.=20 There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's no= thing compared to years ago. Is it technology? Is it the Internet? Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they sti= ll draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an artist= for a game company. Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favorite= comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it = was fun From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 03:25:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58279 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 10:25:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 10:25:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.188) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 10:25:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 10:24:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 10:24:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:24:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.188 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: I'm losing the touch X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=o-jL1x9VJecVxypWUQVcRioSOZBl3JOFLStPCBmyo1N7JOOt X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a quick doodle I did this morning. I could feel that I'm losing the touch because it has been a while. It's in the photos section under the anybody folder [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 03:38:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1346 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 10:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 10:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 10:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 10:37:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 10:37:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:37:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8FB707F427324E18806AACBA05D31A74@DimestoreA> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=5S_AU-_anCXwsI9decAcoJ9MfNwOZ4MmUTBJA8niSxWCNzh- X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g Is Madison, OH in the upper or lower part of the state? --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > I run the Self Publisher Association (SPA) - We started that up in 2000..= .. >=20=20 > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com =20=20 > www.dimestoredistro.com =20 > www.spacomics.com =20 > www.indyfestusa.com =20=20 > www.selfpubmag.com =20=20 >=20=20 >=20 > _____=20=20 >=20 > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Imes > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:41 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Somebody mentioned they were a member > > of "UFO." What exactly is that (ok--ok--I know it means > > unidentified flying object)? Is there anything on the > > Internet? > > >=20 > The UFO is the United Fanzine Organization, a co-op of small-press zine > (and/or fanzine) publishers. The official website is at > http://www.unitedfa > nzineorganization.moonfruit.com/ > The site hasn't been updated in a few months, though, unfortunately.=20 >=20 > The UFO has a looonnng history. It began as the BPP (Blue Plaque > Publications) in 1969 when Carl Gafford formed it. Six issues of the > original BPP Newsletter were published, until the group disbanded circa > 1973. Steve Keeter's application to the group had been accepted at the en= d, > though, and he decided to revive the group in December 1973 as Blue Phoen= ix > Publications (with Jim Main as one of the first members). In 1974, the na= me > of the group was changed to the UFO. By the late 1970s, many prozines had > joined the group (including The Comics Journal) and by 1980 the UFO was > disbanded. In 1984, Jim Main revived the UFO, and as far as I know it has > been going on ever since. Main and Keeter are currently UFO members again= , > as are a few other "old-timers" like Jim Pack and J. Kevin Carrier.=20 >=20 > There are other co-ops still in operation today besides the UFO, too, suc= h > as the BPP (which had been revived by Keeter and Main in 1999, during a > period when they were no longer in the UFO) as well as the SPS (Small Pre= ss > Syndicate). If anyone is interested in more info on any of this stuff, fe= el > free to email me at robimes@yahoo. com >=20 > > There used to be a lot of APA's out there where actual > > printed stuff was mailed. I haven't seen any of those in > > years > >=20 >=20 > There are still APAs being done, although I'm not part of an APA and neve= r > have been. I do receive (in trade) the individual "zines" (APA > contributions) of Dwight Decker (TORCH) and Christoph Melchert (SHOCKWAVE= ). > I forget what APA those are produced for. I know that longtime fan artist > Greg Turner is the central mailer for the Legion of Super-Heroes APA; he > sent me a couple of recent issues of the Legion APA last year.=20 >=20 > Rob Imes >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed May 13 04:05:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94175 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 11:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 11:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.121) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 11:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090513110415686.CXPD13493@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:15 +0000 To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: <9D0A5C66457249A782770C63C94939B7@DimestoreA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnTnaIefB3UNU49TeOwwti6xQsTzQAHL+Rg X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=YqYbamu4suKfUxbzs7itKagpw6u4xVaO-9tz2Km_ms9qgw X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pessimist. I work with kids, teaching them how to make minicomics, and they love it. Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:37 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a thing of the past. There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's nothing compared to years ago. Is it technology? Is it the Internet? Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an artist for a game company. Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favorite comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it was fun [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Burbank396@netscape.net Wed May 13 04:35:01 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2629 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 11:34:59 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92353 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 10:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 10:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 10:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n4DATtCf013498 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from burbank396@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c1a.5a2700cd (34898) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.153]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA017-5bca4a0aa11c318; Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:50 -0400 X-Received: from Webmail-mg14 (webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com [64.12.142.162]) by smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB021-5bca4a0aa11c318; Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:48 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:48 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.158.221.203 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.158.221.203 by Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com (64.12.142.162) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 May 2009 06:29:48 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA1CCE08C6913-1668-2CC0@Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=aVZ15GG3FbwrN7RaOc0NZU0Ac7xd49pQYpwrysG7nyr9wdiDcQ X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 11:34:59 -0000 FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 2:36 am Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a thing of the past. There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's nothing compared to years ago. Is it technology? Is it the Internet? Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an artist for a game company. Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favorite comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it was fun do we top or bottom post around here? Fandom has changed ...it is not their fault that we stick in the muds haven't kept up. Science Fiction magazines came along and famdom embraced them. Taught them the mystic secrets of The Mimeo and Typewriter and the AJA frowned and Whined that they were not TRU_fen. Comics came along and fandom embraced that media...and the Science Fiction people said woe be to us as Comics begat cartoons and film. Then came the Games and the comics and SF people said why do we have to provide for them?? and later Where have alla the gamers gone as tech made it possible to play without leaving home. That is a very condensed version of our history but illustrates that the greying of fandom is just that FANDOM moves on leaving us behind. World of Warcraft and the like will be replaced by something else just as Fandom has worked it's way through text, drawing, media, gaming. Fandom is the community of fellow travelers ever questing to new worlds to explore not a static bit of space time to remember fondly (or so I have been told). But YEAH it was a hoot. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Wed May 13 04:39:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19624 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 11:39:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 11:39:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d22.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.208) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 11:39:48 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0ab15e14f; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:10 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d1b.3f4abfc1 (34929) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.152]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA042-5bc24a0ab15527e; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:05 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MA07 (webmail-ma07.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.71]) by smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB011-5bc24a0ab15527e; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:01 -0400 References: <8CBA1CCE08C6913-1668-2CC0@Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:01 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 In-Reply-To: <8CBA1CCE08C6913-1668-2CC0@Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:01 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA1D68BE08A8C-1054-2BEB@WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=LcKX2DTeZOicYM6xwQAzRTp23x5J13WwduU9c6B3lcx2Ew X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well said,Dean! GJ -----Original Message----- From: Dean Sweatman To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 6:29 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 2:36 am Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a thing of the past. There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's nothing compared to years ago. Is it technology? Is it the Internet? Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an artist for a game company. Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favorite comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it was fun do we top or bottom post around here? Fandom has changed ...it is not their fault that we stick in the muds haven't kept up. Science Fiction magazines came along and famdom embraced them. Taught them the mystic secrets of The Mimeo and Typewriter and the AJA frowned and Whined that they were not TRU_fen. Comics came along and fandom embraced that media...and the Science Fiction people said woe be to us as Comics begat cartoons and film. Then came the Games and the comics and SF people said why do we have to provide for them?? and later Where have alla the gamers gone as tech made it possible to play without leaving home. That is a very condensed version of our history but illustrates that the greying of fandom is just that FANDOM moves on leaving us behind. World of Warcraft and the like will be replaced by something else just as Fandom has worked it's way through text, drawing, media, gaming. Fandom is the community of fellow travelers ever questing to new worlds to explore not a static bit of space time to remember fondly (or so I have been told). But YEAH it was a hoot. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed May 13 05:40:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16170 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 12:40:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 12:40:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.121) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 12:40:26 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090513123925409.FDVY13493@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 12:39:25 +0000 To: References: <8FB707F427324E18806AACBA05D31A74@DimestoreA> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnTtvJV3/8n/ajSTuSC0pgDXW7gIAAEMUvw X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] UFO X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=BSAEkVTlEcDIO3JTjkfcn9IQ9jvlPTmv-5NmiYEUrL_weQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit upper, I'm very near the lake Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:37 AM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO Is Madison, OH in the upper or lower part of the state? --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > I run the Self Publisher Association (SPA) - We started that up in 2000.... > > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/> > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/> > www.spacomics.com s.com/> > www.indyfestusa.com usa.com/> > www.selfpubmag.com ag.com/> > > > _____ > > From: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Imes > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:41 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [cbzines] UFO > > > > > > > > Somebody mentioned they were a member > > of "UFO." What exactly is that (ok--ok--I know it means > > unidentified flying object)? Is there anything on the > > Internet? > > > > The UFO is the United Fanzine Organization, a co-op of small-press zine > (and/or fanzine) publishers. The official website is at > http://www.unitedfa nzineorganization.moonfruit.com/> > nzineorganization.moonfruit.com/ > The site hasn't been updated in a few months, though, unfortunately. > > The UFO has a looonnng history. It began as the BPP (Blue Plaque > Publications) in 1969 when Carl Gafford formed it. Six issues of the > original BPP Newsletter were published, until the group disbanded circa > 1973. Steve Keeter's application to the group had been accepted at the end, > though, and he decided to revive the group in December 1973 as Blue Phoenix > Publications (with Jim Main as one of the first members). In 1974, the name > of the group was changed to the UFO. By the late 1970s, many prozines had > joined the group (including The Comics Journal) and by 1980 the UFO was > disbanded. In 1984, Jim Main revived the UFO, and as far as I know it has > been going on ever since. Main and Keeter are currently UFO members again, > as are a few other "old-timers" like Jim Pack and J. Kevin Carrier. > > There are other co-ops still in operation today besides the UFO, too, such > as the BPP (which had been revived by Keeter and Main in 1999, during a > period when they were no longer in the UFO) as well as the SPS (Small Press > Syndicate). If anyone is interested in more info on any of this stuff, feel > free to email me at robimes@yahoo. com > > > There used to be a lot of APA's out there where actual > > printed stuff was mailed. I haven't seen any of those in > > years > > > > There are still APAs being done, although I'm not part of an APA and never > have been. I do receive (in trade) the individual "zines" (APA > contributions) of Dwight Decker (TORCH) and Christoph Melchert (SHOCKWAVE). > I forget what APA those are produced for. I know that longtime fan artist > Greg Turner is the central mailer for the Legion of Super-Heroes APA; he > sent me a couple of recent issues of the Legion APA last year. > > Rob Imes > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 06:06:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37619 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 13:06:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 13:06:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m25.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.6) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 13:06:16 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imo-m25.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0ac5bb3dd; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:06:03 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.bc2.443ef57b (32913) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:05 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=_EdfTxuJFdnEkKMpm-CBP9ja3VmdF-HdwqmyxAKmgoy_LbjW7hmrQbyW X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 3:37:24 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a > thing of the past. > ---------------------- I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 06:29:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6574 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 13:29:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 13:29:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m19.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.11) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 13:29:53 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0acaf7d0; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:23 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d2c.49fa818c (32913) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:09 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.11 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=49K5XVMQGGi_GYeDYkKRL9pUq7rzJ2duSp_m8mxE1BQvd_cYSF1pBLxK X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/12/09 9:57:42 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > My opinion--no contest--Bernie Wrightson > ----------------------------------- Do you mean the rare times Bernie has inked someone else's work or do you mean his inks on his own work? I tend to think of someone's work that he/she has pencilled and inked as being more "organic", and not as part of a comics asembly line. I liked when Bernie inked Steve Ditko. Some of my favorite inkers are: *Murphy Anderson *George Klein *Joe Sinnott *Terry Austin *Mick Gray *Jerry Ordway *Tom Palmer *Dick Giordano --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Wed May 13 06:34:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3802 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 13:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 13:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.159.7) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 13:34:16 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-d06.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0acc353c7; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:42 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c40.5aff0aaa (34934) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.144]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA047-5bb14a0acc24150; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:31 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MA07 (webmail-ma07.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.71]) by smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA018-5bb14a0acc24150; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:24 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:24 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 May 2009 09:33:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA1E685CF55E0-17D4-14@WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.159.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=3owaY4nkB_kjlb6VVr75EjE60_peNU43RHsctjKU--tAsA X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and I'm even working on starting a new apa for silver age comic book fans! GJ -----Original Message----- From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 9:05 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? In a message dated 5/13/09 3:37:24 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a > thing of the past. > ---------------------- I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Wed May 13 07:45:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37266 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 14:45:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 14:45:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 14:45:13 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0adcd410c; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:44:36 -0400 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d15.47cfe138 (32915) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:44:20 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fandom is bigger than ever, it is just that most of it is on line. There are webcomics (some which have graduated to print form) which have large followings. While print fanzines aren't as plentiful (but many more than I can afford to buy, thanks to twomorrows) blogs are plentiful with many more comics blogs than I could ever follow. Interviews with major comics artists and writers appear on line every day. There are numerous comics news sites, several which I read every day. Mark Evanier used to write for CBG until they had a cost cutting move ten years ago and told him that for all his years of service he'd get a 50% pay cut, so he went on line at newsfromme.com which is one of the best of the comics blogs. If all the new writing about comics on line was printed out it would fill hundreds of fanzines. -- James Van Hise **************Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 07:50:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48211 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 14:50:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 14:50:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 14:50:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 14:49:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 14:49:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:49:42 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA1E685CF55E0-17D4-14@WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=nDYNVgPYHQDDMyz5aaUq80KF1qXTWAoHdOJWxCvYNeJTjCgp X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g an online apa or a real apa. Sounds like it would be cool if it's one that = mails out the printed material --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > and I'm even working on starting a new apa for silver age comic book fans= ! > GJ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: AIRBOYO2@... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 9:05 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 5/13/09 3:37:24 AM, tinroad6g@... writes: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a= =20 > > thing of the past. > >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. > --steve >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > ) >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From jmain44@aol.com Wed May 13 07:56:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14936 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 14:56:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 14:56:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 14:56:06 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0adf1d1ff; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:54:21 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c5a.48071e87 (37035) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:54:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.153]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB025-5c354a0adf076; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:54:04 -0400 X-Received: from WEBMAIL-MA07 (webmail-ma07.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.71]) by smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB023-5c354a0adf076; Wed, 13 May 2009 10:53:59 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:53:59 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42949-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 May 2009 10:53:59 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA1F1C84F3044-17D4-572@WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=4fGy5Vozyp7tdVfDH6t3eFAC1IZHUnx4sc27CQLeyh73ng X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh,it'll be a printed one for sure! GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:49 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? an online apa or a real apa. Sounds like it would be cool if it's one that mails out the printed material --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@... wrote: > > and I'm even working on starting a new apa for silver age comic book fans! > GJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AIRBOYO2@... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 9:05 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/13/09 3:37:24 AM, tinroad6g@... writes: > > > > > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a > > thing of the past. > > > > ---------------------- > I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. > --steve > > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after > instant savings! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > ) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 08:06:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4663 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 15:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 15:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 15:06:06 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:05:46 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:05:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:05:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=7BoCgjiaL0gAkTVQSziWZPR_C8yvRoSedE6qZgOLp9fqOCVZ X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g you made a good point--I guess I like him inking his own work. He uses maxi= mum contrast for black and white comics. He even uses black backgrounds to = eliminate some of the outlines. Man, I loved his horror stories > >=20 >=20 > ----------------------------------- > Do you mean the rare times Bernie has inked someone else's work or do you= =20 > mean his inks on his own work? > I tend to think of someone's work that he/she has pencilled and inked as= =20 > being more "organic", and not as part of a comics asembly line. > I liked when Bernie inked Steve Ditko. > Some of my favorite inkers are: > *Murphy Anderson > *George Klein > *Joe Sinnott > *Terry Austin > *Mick Gray > *Jerry Ordway > *Tom Palmer > *Dick Giordano > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > ) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 08:15:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66615 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 15:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 15:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 15:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:15:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:15:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:15:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA1CCE08C6913-1668-2CC0@Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=c0PPs6VFeeLW0ZZq_x69wucVE8BB2oNSkDFhIV2hjWtCYTNW X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g guess I'm an old stick in the mud. Waiting for the zine and getting it in h= and from the guy who made it is somehow better than clicking keys on a keyb= oard for me. I know even those are still out there but not as many. Also-games are not p= art of fandom for me nor anything that uses computer art (generated just fr= om programs) Don't get me wrong--some of the old zines had terrible art but were great. I guess I'm getting old >=20 > FIAWOL >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 2:36 am > Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a th= ing of=20 > the past.=20 >=20 > There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's = nothing=20 > compared to years ago. >=20 > Is it technology? Is it the Internet? >=20 > Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they s= till=20 > draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an artist = for a=20 > game company. >=20 > Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favori= te=20 > comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." >=20 > I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but i= t was=20 > fun >=20 >=20 > do we top or bottom post around here? >=20=20 > Fandom has changed ...it is not their fault that we stick in the muds hav= en't kept up. >=20 >=20=20 > Science Fiction magazines came along and famdom embraced them. Taught th= em the mystic=20 > secrets of The Mimeo and Typewriter and the AJA frowned and Whined that t= hey were not > TRU_fen. >=20 >=20=20 > Comics came along and fandom embraced that media...and the Science Fictio= n people said=20 >=20 > woe be to us as Comics begat cartoons and film. >=20=20 > Then came the Games and the comics and SF people said why do we have to p= rovide for them??=20 > and later Where have alla the gamers gone as tech made it possible to pla= y without leaving=20 > home. >=20 >=20=20 > That is a very condensed version of our history but illustrates that the = greying of fandom=20 > is just that FANDOM moves on leaving us behind. World of Warcraft and th= e like will be=20 > replaced by something else just as Fandom has worked it's way through tex= t, drawing, media,=20 > gaming. >=20 >=20 >=20=20 > Fandom is the community of fellow travelers ever questing to new worlds t= o explore not a=20 > static bit of space time to remember fondly (or so I have been told). >=20 >=20=20 > But >=20=20 > YEAH it was a hoot. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 08:38:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3510 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 15:38:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 15:38:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 15:38:37 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:38:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 15:38:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:38:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=DRpfUK5ETthmKKYtVW84n1zOT8m6NROlh-QXkDYaqVNcr8df X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g The art is identical. I think there is one old man in a basement somewhere = doing all of them. They are like rap music. One is enough because all the o= thers are the same thing That's poop From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 09:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27089 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 16:08:00 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 91146 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 16:06:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 16:06:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 16:06:41 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:06:11 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:06:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:06:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA1F1C84F3044-17D4-572@WEBMAIL-MA07.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=o_jN3_6Zs1tJnbdHHSkxFxQG93doBo8HxXa_1zgM7NYqSwkc X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 16:08:00 -0000 will it be a closed group or will anybody be able to join? >=20 > Oh,it'll be a printed one for sure! > GJ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:49 am > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > an online apa or a real apa. Sounds like it would be cool if it's one tha= t mails out the printed material >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, jmain44@ wrote: > > > > and I'm even working on starting a new apa for silver age comic book fa= ns! > > GJ > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AIRBOYO2@ > > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 9:05 am > > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > In a message dated 5/13/09 3:37:24 AM, tinroad6g@ writes: > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost = a=20 > > > thing of the past. > > >=20 > >=20 > > ---------------------- > > I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. > > --steve > >=20 > > ************** > > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > > instant savings!=20 > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redi= r=3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > > ) > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 09:08:50 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 60190 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 16:08:49 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48636 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 16:04:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 16:04:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 16:04:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:04:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:04:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:04:49 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9D0A5C66457249A782770C63C94939B7@DimestoreA> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=Otzv9JaKm_QCjD98rH3qhV14qV5UT5BOnLAN0d5swMRGakUs X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 16:08:49 -0000 I'm not really a pessimist. I was just giving my opinion. Everybody has tho= se danged things. The cool thing is they are all different and unique. My grandson wants me to show him how to do a zine. He and a few of his frie= nds want to do one. I guess I'll be teaching kids too. --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > pessimist. I work with kids, teaching them how to make minicomics, and th= ey > love it. >=20=20 > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com =20=20 > www.dimestoredistro.com =20 > www.spacomics.com =20 > www.indyfestusa.com =20=20 > www.selfpubmag.com =20=20 >=20=20 >=20 > _____=20=20 >=20 > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:37 AM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a th= ing > of the past.=20 >=20 > There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's > nothing compared to years ago. >=20 > Is it technology? Is it the Internet? >=20 > Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they > still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an > artist for a game company. >=20 > Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favori= te > comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." >=20 > I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but i= t > was fun >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed May 13 09:47:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56113 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 16:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 16:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.122) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 16:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090513164714280.DWVZ17201@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:47:15 +0000 To: References: <9D0A5C66457249A782770C63C94939B7@DimestoreA> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:46:38 -0400 Message-ID: <856C47D5E7DA4748AF70577F2423C67F@DimestoreA> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnT5R1X6H31CmyESOaI1Fh44rUYcAABQYDw X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.122 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=EDhEDGiBKv8l7d23S_52Rmob0yedJf57yKpdwjFnyi1yKQ X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See, it might have missed a segment, a generation even, but TEACHING it, keeps it growing. Instead of teaching kids to sit and play games, teach them to read and make zines, and we'll see lots of stuff in the future as it all takes hold. Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:05 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? I'm not really a pessimist. I was just giving my opinion. Everybody has those danged things. The cool thing is they are all different and unique. My grandson wants me to show him how to do a zine. He and a few of his friends want to do one. I guess I'll be teaching kids too. --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > pessimist. I work with kids, teaching them how to make minicomics, and they > love it. > > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/> > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/> > www.spacomics.com s.com/> > www.indyfestusa.com usa.com/> > www.selfpubmag.com ag.com/> > > > _____ > > From: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:37 AM > To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > > > > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a thing > of the past. > > There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's > nothing compared to years ago. > > Is it technology? Is it the Internet? > > Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they > still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an > artist for a game company. > > Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my favorite > comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." > > I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it > was fun > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 09:56:12 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88199 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 16:56:08 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 81780 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 16:54:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 16:54:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 16:54:39 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:54:11 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 16:54:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:54:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <856C47D5E7DA4748AF70577F2423C67F@DimestoreA> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=dlwB6oXYZ3EBzphp51GM1IhXSX5ATNFFeYJlXRI8fDgENoGx X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 16:56:08 -0000 I'm gonna try--but--teaching it is gonna be harder for me than doing it --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > See, it might have missed a segment, a generation even, but TEACHING it, > keeps it growing. Instead of teaching kids to sit and play games, teach t= hem > to read and make zines, and we'll see lots of stuff in the future as it a= ll > takes hold. >=20=20 > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com =20=20 > www.dimestoredistro.com =20 > www.spacomics.com =20 > www.indyfestusa.com =20=20 > www.selfpubmag.com =20=20 >=20=20 >=20 > _____=20=20 >=20 > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:05 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm not really a pessimist. I was just giving my opinion. Everybody has > those danged things. The cool thing is they are all different and unique. >=20 > My grandson wants me to show him how to do a zine. He and a few of his > friends want to do one. I guess I'll be teaching kids too. >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > > > pessimist. I work with kids, teaching them how to make minicomics, and > they > > love it. > >=20 > > Ian Shires, CEO > > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/>=20 > > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/>=20 > > www.spacomics.com s.co= m/> >=20 > > www.indyfestusa.com > usa.com/>=20 > > www.selfpubmag.com > ag.com/>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _____=20 > >=20 > > From: comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:37 AM > > To: comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a > thing > > of the past.=20 > >=20 > > There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it'= s > > nothing compared to years ago. > >=20 > > Is it technology? Is it the Internet? > >=20 > > Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they > > still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an > > artist for a game company. > >=20 > > Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my > favorite > > comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." > >=20 > > I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but= it > > was fun > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From jameshburns@webtv.net Wed May 13 09:58:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62425 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 16:58:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 16:58:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.137) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 16:58:12 -0000 X-Received: from storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 62FB45C0A1 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net (8.11.7+Sun/mt.gso.26Feb98) id n4DGvmC23825; Wed, 13 May 2009 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRa65+bikgRVCQgZ2AtzkBY3ewh6AIUckxxN+TIsc0sSrLfw8hFPNsqKPM= Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:57:48 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <17294-4A0AFC0C-680@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 13 May 2009 16:47:46 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: The Life, and Death, and Life of Fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151; y=JxUdZd-4YlNaV2ILnWwzfTIn1uCTLm5_S_Nd7aln2KP2sDe0oO3B X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 Not to go all STAR TREKKy with my headline (but, by the way, Jim VanHise, how could you say something so silly, on another web source, that the new film does less to change the TREK canon, than the first movie? The first film only changed visuals... This changes EVERYTHING)... It's interesting to remember that fanzines were a big part of the original Punk Rock movement, in the early/mid/late '70s. "Punk" actually meant kind of do-it-yourself, not necessarily, the '50s punk attitude... Fanzines were also a component of the alternative rock scene, some years later. My next door teenage suburban neighbors put together a rock band, I helped them get a few gigs, and one of the other things the did, was their own fanzine, but not about comics... Of course, that was over ten years ago... My biggest surprise is that so many comics-fan-type groups don't have more members. Best, Jim From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 10:27:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78639 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 17:26:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 17:26:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 17:26:57 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n4DHQKQj024530 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:26:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c47.587b9863 (39330) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:26:10 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.38 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=M9t8qOBFiTdNHZLu8Qg-EIb37OlX9ZDpPsYckGVVq6Zcy7dhKTCeaVMb X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 11:07:12 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > you made a good point--I guess I like him inking his own work. He uses > maximum contrast for black and white comics. He even uses black backgrounds to > eliminate some of the outlines. Man, I loved his horror stories > ------------------------- Bernie's few jobs for Warren Magazines are literally frightening, and elegantly rendered. "Night Of The Bat" in SWAMP THING # 7, is one of my all-time favorite single comic book stories. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed May 13 10:37:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48230 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 17:37:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 17:37:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.122) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 17:37:05 -0000 X-Received: from DimestoreA ([76.188.214.133]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090513173604428.QLUM13493@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:36:04 +0000 To: References: <856C47D5E7DA4748AF70577F2423C67F@DimestoreA> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:35:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcnT67tO+QTuOVf6T9a/SiadU/zd7wABVBlA X-Originating-IP: 75.180.132.122 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:2 From: "Ian Shires" Subject: RE: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=gAQN-pEvM4kjIXB4i96l01B53E0pTXil012bJ7w-irogTg X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just have fun with the "students" - I mean, if it's fun and they want to learn it, just be yourself and enjoy sharing the knowledge... Ian Shires, CEO P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA www.dimestoreproductions.com www.dimestoredistro.com www.spacomics.com www.indyfestusa.com www.selfpubmag.com _____ From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:54 PM To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? I'm gonna try--but--teaching it is gonna be harder for me than doing it --- In comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > See, it might have missed a segment, a generation even, but TEACHING it, > keeps it growing. Instead of teaching kids to sit and play games, teach them > to read and make zines, and we'll see lots of stuff in the future as it all > takes hold. > > Ian Shires, CEO > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/> > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/> > www.spacomics.com s.com/> > www.indyfestusa.com usa.com/> > www.selfpubmag.com ag.com/> > > > _____ > > From: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:05 PM > To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > > > > > > I'm not really a pessimist. I was just giving my opinion. Everybody has > those danged things. The cool thing is they are all different and unique. > > My grandson wants me to show him how to do a zine. He and a few of his > friends want to do one. I guess I'll be teaching kids too. > > --- In comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shires" wrote: > > > > pessimist. I work with kids, teaching them how to make minicomics, and > they > > love it. > > > > Ian Shires, CEO > > P.O. Box 214, Madison, OH 44057 USA > > www.dimestoreproductions.com eproductions.com/> eproductions.com/> > > www.dimestoredistro.com edistro.com/> edistro.com/> > > www.spacomics.com s.com/> s.com/> > > > www.indyfestusa.com usa.com/> > usa.com/> > > www.selfpubmag.com ag.com/> > ag.com/> > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tinroad6g > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:37 AM > > To: comicbookfanzines@ > yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [cbzines] What killed fandom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a > thing > > of the past. > > > > There are still those who produce zines but I think most will admit it's > > nothing compared to years ago. > > > > Is it technology? Is it the Internet? > > > > Kids used to draw with the hope of being a--comic book artist. Now they > > still draw but if you ask them why they'll tell you--they want to be an > > artist for a game company. > > > > Yesterday you could ask "What is Spiderman"--kids would answer "my > favorite > > comic." Now they'll answer "a movie." > > > > I think fandom will slowly die away with the old generation. Ahhhh, but it > > was fun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 10:37:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19599 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 17:37:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 17:37:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 17:37:28 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0b053d1f8; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:37:01 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c84.4e50442a (39330) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 13:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:36:56 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=39FoIp7h6b8s2xYtqfJdqu9Ckmi0Qmi0Yruufz2hpWGIlyONFaTcTLIv X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 11:39:13 AM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > The art is identical. I think there is one old man in a basement somewhere > doing all of them. They are like rap music. One is enough because all the > others are the same thing > --------------------- There is a lot of diversity if you look carefully at them, and some of the translations of Japanese _manga_ to American English language is poorly done. A buddy of mine used to translate Japanese comics into English for a living, you can read a great deal of difference in quality between his and other translations. I would not want a steady diet of Japanese comics and anime but I do like some of it, especially the old cartoons, even though the translations are not great, but I love ASTRO BOY, KIMBA< GIGANTOR, EIGHTH MAN, etc. And it is plain not a good idea to make as broad a generalization as this, you don't know just who will read your posts. Smiley faces help. :o) --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 10:58:15 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57833 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 17:58:11 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4711 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 17:49:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 17:49:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 17:49:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 17:48:48 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.15] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 17:48:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:48:47 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 204.117.145.194 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=B7FJJfmujXGpW-_3EoOhbKyHKQRiVjWPZScmKpjyXJ1sCoUg X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 17:58:11 -0000 my post was just my opinion. Some people like ice cream and some do not. No= thing wrong with either way. Yes, there are some I have liked but I disagree--there is not as much varia= tion in them as with American artists. At least-I don't see as much. I can = look at art from American artists and guess who did a lot of the art. I can= 't with the Japanese comics. They remind me of Archie comics--one artist hit BIG and now ALL the artists= for Archie make their stuff look like his. I think the Japanese artists could put in variation but don't for some reas= on. I suspect the company would reject it > >=20 > > The art is identical. I think there is one old man in a basement somewh= ere=20 > > doing all of them. They are like rap music. One is enough because all t= he=20 > > others are the same thing > >=20 >=20 > --------------------- > There is a lot of diversity if you look carefully at them, and some of th= e=20 > translations of Japanese _manga_ to American English language is poorly=20 > done. > A buddy of mine used to translate Japanese comics into English for a=20 > living, you can read a great deal of difference in quality between his an= d other=20 > translations. > I would not want a steady diet of Japanese comics and anime but I do like= =20 > some of it, especially the old cartoons, even though the translations are= not=20 > great, but I love ASTRO BOY, KIMBA< GIGANTOR, EIGHTH MAN, etc. > And it is plain not a good idea to make as broad a generalization as this= ,=20 > you don't know just who will read your posts. > Smiley faces help. > :o) > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > ) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From knights@inebraska.com Wed May 13 11:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: knights@inebraska.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57286 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 18:46:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 18:46:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 18:46:27 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 18:45:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 18:45:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:45:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 206.222.198.12 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238783; y=wG-tgwRkRpakJ9MYgcsaLtpuT1plGhCUF6Yj_rQqgRME-l3IuA X-Yahoo-Profile: jscott1520 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote= : > > Somebody needs to do a zine like the original Amazing Fantasy. Each had s= tories that were stand alone tales about monsters and space aliens. >=20 > I remember the title "The Terror of Tim Boo Bah" or something like that. = It explained the terrible power of old Tim all through the story and then, = at the end, he and his world was wiped out by a drop of water or something.= The terrible Tim and his world were microscopic I did a sort of lampoon of the great Ditko cover for that issue: http://incolor.inebraska.com/knights/stewart/new02.htm Scott Stewart From knights@inebraska.com Wed May 13 11:48:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: knights@inebraska.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30856 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 18:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 18:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 18:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 18:48:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 18:48:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:48:39 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 206.222.198.12 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1238783; y=EA3v6Dmj4xEwSOeSWd5ztqwpSHavb1V2r01O9MmgkenojamkjA X-Yahoo-Profile: jscott1520 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote= : > > My opinion--no contest--Bernie Wrightson I decided after reading the Eclipse tpb "Tales of the Mysterious Traveller"= (reprinting early Ditko in black-and-white) that Mr. D was, in fact, the b= est inker in comics. That's one reason his pencils could be so minimal -- h= is real art was in the inks. Scott Stewart From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 12:26:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43791 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 19:25:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 19:25:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d23.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.137) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 19:25:58 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0b1e7b1e2; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:24:43 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.bca.4abd1df8 (39330) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:24:26 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=tXm0DrNy8K5okdqXAlCG-FiiqudWokf03x4VxoILB0JZ5VckbpQqUgqh X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 1:58:47 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > They remind me of Archie comics--one artist hit BIG and now ALL the > artists for Archie make their stuff look like his. > ---------------------- The cartoonists at ARCHIE who mimic Dan DeCarlo's style don't have the depth of artistic vision that Danny had. Stan Goldberg, an industry veteran of 50 years or so, is the best of the DCarlo mimics, but he was working at Marvel in the 1950's before he went to ARCHIE, or DC for that matter. Harry P. Lucey, Samm Schwart and Dan DeCarlo were the true artistic triumvirate at ARCHIE for a long time, their individual works and styles stood out, it is a shame that they are all gone. The current "New Look" issues at ARCHIE are being drawn by talented folks like Joe Staton, Al Milgrom, Tod Smith, Rick Burchett and Terry Austin. These cartoonists are making the new look at ARCHIE closer to the old days than they realize, _in my opinion_. I am beoing careful to say it like this so you don't think I am generalizing like I accused you of doing. --steve c. www.DanDeCarloDevotees@Yahoogroups.com ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2 Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 12:32:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68541 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 19:32:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 19:32:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.41) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 19:32:10 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-d03.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a0b1fd03b; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:26 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c2e.5334d6d6 (39330) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:08 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.41 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=rGkGIAo-3FQnb3_wgKI9konPPnC3A7CPVfZ06-MHD8XwUNU94XpFLC3_ X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 2:49:22 PM, knights@inebraska.com writes: > > I decided after reading the Eclipse tpb "Tales of the Mysterious > Traveller" (reprinting early Ditko in black-and-white) that Mr. D was, in fact, the > best inker in comics. That's one reason his pencils could be so minimal -- > his real art was in the inks. > ------------------------- Scott, The inks Ditko came up with on his own pencils are stylish, edgy and brilliant, though I still believe that a penciller who inks his own work produces a more organic piece of art than one that is a result of a teamin-up of several people. I have a page by Ditko that he pencilled and inked, from BEWARE THE CREEPER, and one from ADVENTURE COMICS that Romeo Tanghal inked, with "Starman" from the 1970's. Both are great but guess which one I like best? My Warren wash page by Steve, however, is one of the crown jewels of my collection. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 12:37:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20902 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 19:37:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 19:37:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.138.210) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 19:37:03 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a0b2119a2; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:35:53 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.cc0.551962cb (39330) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:35:47 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.138.210 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Amazing Fantasy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=2goXJFeqO2wFi6O3AcJ4NK_JfpdZki9v0q51W9iR246xvMKsTg_qyEnI X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, When I have a little money again some day I would love it if you would draw me a commissioned piece of the big, stone giant from "Robin Dies At Dawn". I think you could imitate Shelly Moldoff's drawing of that character nicely, with BATMAN & ROBIN in the foreground. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 13:27:42 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 52345 invoked by uid 7800); 13 May 2009 20:27:40 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17741 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 20:19:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 20:19:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 20:19:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 20:19:11 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2009 20:19:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:19:11 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 204.117.145.194 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=fH-7POiMGGfZCjr8K-S1ovMSBxbya2QsievjFb_S-QDa28CL X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 13 May 2009 20:27:40 -0000 No problem--I think a person should be able to give his or her opinion if i= t's positive or negative. I don't care what the subject is--there will be p= ositive and negative opinions out there. People may as well get used to it = or they'll go around angry all the time I agree--when artists try to mimic another artist they never seem to do as = well > > They remind me of Archie comics--one artist hit BIG and now ALL the=20 > > artists for Archie make their stuff look like his. > >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > The cartoonists at ARCHIE who mimic Dan DeCarlo's style don't have the=20 > depth of artistic vision that Danny had. > Stan Goldberg, an industry veteran of 50 years or so, is the best of the= =20 > DCarlo mimics, but he was working at Marvel in the 1950's before he went = to=20 > ARCHIE, or DC for that matter. > Harry P. Lucey, Samm Schwart and Dan DeCarlo were the true artistic=20 > triumvirate at ARCHIE for a long time, their individual works and styles = stood out,=20 > it is a shame that they are all gone. > The current "New Look" issues at ARCHIE are being drawn by talented folks= =20 > like Joe Staton, Al Milgrom, Tod Smith, Rick Burchett and Terry Austin. > These cartoonists are making the new look at ARCHIE closer to the old day= s=20 > than they realize,=20 > _in my opinion_. > I am beoing careful to say it like this so you don't think I am=20 > generalizing like I accused you of doing. > --steve c. > www.DanDeCarloDevotees@... >=20 >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks:=20 > Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2 > Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 14:22:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45115 invoked from network); 13 May 2009 21:22:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2009 21:22:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO -f) (205.188.144.208) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2009 21:22:27 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0b39c7384; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:21:11 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d50.4b6d9bf7 (48552) for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:22:08 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Why Japanese comics are pure poop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=fkdDGHLwTekAHwgSaJte14hkf_CkIfs99Gg6O2ed5L5-RRNj307b6GUo X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 4:28:08 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > No problem--I think a person should be able to give his or her opinion if > it's positive or negative. I don't care what the subject is--there will be > positive and negative opinions out there. People may as well get used to it > or they'll go around angry all the time > > I agree--when artists try to mimic another artist they never seem to do as > well > > > ---------------------- Recently on some of these lists some folks who were unhappy with having their opinions challenged, apparently beat feet and unsubscribed. I don't have the thickest skin on the world but I try to be a _mensch_!!! :o) --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=3CtKXjL75kMIilJZmUlc0fQN71t7j9m6FD67kpn4v_RbCXlo_Q X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 14 May 2009 00:28:52 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:15 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? guess I'm an old stick in the mud. Waiting for the zine and getting it in hand from the guy who made it is somehow better than clicking keys on a keyboard for me. I know even those are still out there but not as many. Also-games are not part of fandom for me nor anything that uses computer art (generated just from programs) Don't get me wrong--some of the old zines had terrible art but were great. I guess I'm getting old To each His Own. . I don't have to guess I know I am getting old. . The trouble is we never notice when they stopped asking us what fandom was just struck out on their own and left us to sit around the campfire and bitch about things. . I remember waiting for Ronn Foss and Roy Thomas to finally send out the issues I sent a couple of Sticky Quarters for. Sometimes it seemed like years between issues sometimes it was years . but when they finally arrived it was a delight. . I never was into Gaming much and World of Warcraft is a complete mystery to me but that is where the action is today. . Just slosh over a bit young fella and make a bit more room for these tired ole bones. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 13 17:47:49 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48438 invoked by uid 7800); 14 May 2009 00:47:16 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 27652 invoked from network); 14 May 2009 00:43:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2009 00:43:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 00:43:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 00:43:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 00:43:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:45:34 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=AOYLB135HDBpj7cTsAEIHMKOCtcHik2jnjkTRcRulefaZSjZ X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 14 May 2009 00:47:16 -0000 where can I get info on those apas > >=20 > >=20 > > Comics have been on the decline for years. Apas (printed) are almost a= =20 > > thing of the past. > >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > I am in two APAs and know of several others that are going strong. > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi > ) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed May 13 22:11:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95033 invoked from network); 14 May 2009 05:11:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2009 05:11:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.100) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 05:11:08 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imo-m12.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a0ba7d63c3; Thu, 14 May 2009 01:10:46 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c83.39278a8c (48552) for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 01:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 01:11:52 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=dhxCDn5qH376UoV3FeUos8JhYU8wZj0DHWMKhtBTgION2bmPgR5v5j34 X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/09 8:48:14 PM, tinroad6g@yahoo.com writes: > > > > where can I get info on those apas > ------------------- I'll see what I can send along. One has a long wait to get on, the other has a waitlist but won't take that long. I will e-mail you privately later. --steve ************** Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! 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charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: A good Bernie Wrightson link X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=WVPNB3_sQbrXkygYjTGrCGx35r3HCeAzewFo77K8IEf-dtEv X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 14 May 2009 14:59:59 -0000 Here's a good link with some big illos=20 http://fantasy-ink.blogspot.com/search/label/Bernie%20Wrightson From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 14 08:00:40 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68409 invoked from network); 14 May 2009 15:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2009 15:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 15:00:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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14 May 2009 14:52:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 14:52:25 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 14:52:18 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 14:52:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:52:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=e6Cow84vx-58nbRdQHWbGXH3W7yKVTB_1kGcPfEJyQgRAII4 X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 14 May 2009 15:00:05 -0000 cool--I was a member of several APAs years ago and it was a blast. I still = keep in contact with several members. Most of them have went the Internet r= oute today.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > where can I get info on those apas > >=20 >=20 > ------------------- > I'll see what I can send along. > One has a long wait to get on, the other has a waitlist but won't take th= at=20 > long. > I will e-mail you privately later. > --steve >=20 >=20 > ************** > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > instant savings!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627952x1201458914/aol?redir= =3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819460%3B36680227%3Bi > ) >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 14 08:33:29 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65116 invoked from network); 14 May 2009 15:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2009 15:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 15:33:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1242315153; bh=y/oTive8ztvEpYkpPfVMMzhMRc0ybLC+7remiD5x1aY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=mGH3oK+PMCU4Zs065NvMahSGAEL7z/m23DYbnY+TXybvwfVFZEDcbo1S9ypbASKEY58iObnSt5q/UzX3OXCyY7NXr3gps44UVwyknFvVMgK+azM/8NXiVO8IGI0ph6a1 Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 15:32:33 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 15:32:33 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47159 invoked from network); 14 May 2009 15:09:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2009 15:09:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2009 15:09:30 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 15:09:04 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2009 15:09:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:09:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: My all time Fav-o-rite ARTIST X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=IzpsNukmKEWOjO543xPRTGGHMPy1sZalp1Lldx2OspS332hm X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 14 May 2009 15:32:31 -0000 Frank Frazetta His work doesn't look all that real and I can't say why I like his work exa= ctly He can do many styles but I like his book cover stuff the best. I read Edga= r Rice Burroughs books because I got interested enough to buy a few--becaus= e of the covers I think one mark of a great artist is when you like his stuff but can't fig= ure out exactly WHY He filled in for Al Capp--he did some of Playboy's "Little Annie Fanny" and= did comic books early in his career From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Fri May 15 05:21:53 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 80683 invoked from network); 15 May 2009 12:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2009 12:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2009 12:21:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1242390108; bh=yenSn1iDAn195k/vh4zUA/bXHsEoVF9LOcD88xQPghw=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=CodDsX698bHz6MySKzrWWuJB/GRpSVsGrlk89TbDGPN+JDap/wp51TsQd7XI8rDxUtCcg+I8FdQdOFtUGHsksDjABcie6SM4EQQ1yfz+0tkBRFkJBZWLZQ4B4V5tuw+p Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 12:21:48 -0000 Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 12:21:48 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87858 invoked from network); 15 May 2009 10:26:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2009 10:26:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2009 10:26:27 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 10:26:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 10:26:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:26:17 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: Great link for FRAZETTA art X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=vbdw9JxJt1uQODR4frcymL8Phk_AJDQh6nZJhEIBPWO3_qEe X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 15 May 2009 12:21:47 -0000 For anybody who loves his stuff--here's a great link for hundreds of large = illos http://frankfrazetta.org/ From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Fri May 15 05:22:11 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 42274 invoked from network); 15 May 2009 12:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 May 2009 12:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2009 12:22:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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15 May 2009 10:48:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2009 10:48:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 10:47:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2009 10:47:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:47:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: Re: Greatest inker? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=pVlUD1yuGcMmI1W6SqwnMbvi3lmeth5gDDouAiZ85Q10pE0J X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 15 May 2009 12:22:00 -0000 I thought his early stuff wasn't all that much but after he did Spiderman h= is work really zoomed. Most great artists clutter up the page but Ditko kept the clutter down=20 Clutter causes young readers to be confused. It is one reason that today's = comics do not have young readers around the age of 8-10 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "tinroad6g" wrote: > > > > My opinion--no contest--Bernie Wrightson >=20 > I decided after reading the Eclipse tpb "Tales of the Mysterious Travelle= r" (reprinting early Ditko in black-and-white) that Mr. D was, in fact, the= best inker in comics. That's one reason his pencils could be so minimal --= his real art was in the inks. >=20 > Scott Stewart > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Mon May 18 07:42:43 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 76375 invoked by uid 7800); 18 May 2009 14:42:40 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65295 invoked from network); 18 May 2009 10:36:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 May 2009 10:36:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2009 10:36:11 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2009 10:35:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.14] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2009 10:35:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:35:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] What killed fandom? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=eJRLl-chbBnUY4xh8eAyoulFSdIjhPpcQImbiCEOzX5InRmm X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 18 May 2009 14:42:40 -0000 tin I never got that e-mail. Did you forget > > cool--I was a member of several APAs years ago and it was a blast. I stil= l keep in contact with several members. Most of them have went the Internet= route today.=20 >=20 >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > where can I get info on those apas > > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------- > > I'll see what I can send along. > > One has a long wait to get on, the other has a waitlist but won't take = that=20 > > long. > > I will e-mail you privately later. > > --steve > >=20 > >=20 > > ************** > > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after=20 > > instant savings!=20 > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627952x1201458914/aol?redi= r=3Dhttp:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819460%3B36680227%3Bi > > ) > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 20 07:05:27 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 57572 invoked from network); 20 May 2009 14:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2009 14:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2009 14:05:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1242828277; bh=1h/gNCdZ5kNeTM/cluzpZjMqKxoI5/KQVjeVbXU/rIU=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=DUHw0DLg9l4kKsMm8UqrbHG7OHr/D4c7/f90DcXy1RldItlPzpevCgPi3UmbpUQqvAtLIooU4KImpqLRptDLvzrdIPprg8116d4k116EOLtpZplyNwautWNSbmxz83fm Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 14:04:37 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 14:04:37 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30403 invoked from network); 20 May 2009 07:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2009 07:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2009 07:32:19 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 07:31:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 07:31:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:31:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject:OT: Getting ready to retire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=rfjfaM585unVOTfFAoHo0QqUrvDrOxISvHFEIO4U9V0yU_q8 X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 20 May 2009 14:04:36 -0000 I'm old--getting ready to retire. I look forward to sitting around drawing = and inking. May be retired after next week if they don't extend me for a month or two From jmain44@aol.com Wed May 20 07:13:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38462 invoked from network); 20 May 2009 14:12:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2009 14:12:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m26.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.7) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2009 14:12:53 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m26.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a140f3925e; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:10:01 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c36.501f4bba (34893) for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA012-5c6d4a140f8d2ff; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:32 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-D19 (fwm-d19.webmail.aol.com [205.188.160.211]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB033-5c6d4a140f8d2ff; Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:25 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:25 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42951-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by FWM-D19.sysops.aol.com (205.188.160.211) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:25 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBA76BFEE5A2FE-C4-3810@FWM-D19.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: Getting ready to retire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=6P24RZPomTtj4XuQsR0IFZ359LpBq6nYNkUBy1UJCYra5Q X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So,what is it you actually do...in this real world job of yours? GJ -----Original Message----- From: tinroad6g To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 3:31 am Subject: [cbzines] OT: Getting ready to retire I'm old--getting ready to retire. I look forward to sitting around drawing and inking. May be retired after next week if they don't extend me for a month or two [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Wed May 20 15:40:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66634 invoked from network); 20 May 2009 22:40:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m6.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 May 2009 22:40:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2009 22:40:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 22:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2009 22:39:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:39:43 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.249.216.153 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TBT gets silly! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=tMElZlw_4F5_ZOXduee3k_kdudEj6APKR3RLdkjSDXH9Ow X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TBT gets silly in TBT TRIPLED ACTION #8 introducing The Mighty Inept Bunch featuring The Moron with a cameo by Jerry Foley's THE NIGHTSHADOW! Superhero parody with fantastic artwork by GARY BARKER, PAUL CURTIS, JEFF COOKE, and GUY BERNHOESTER! All this and Sten Kirby too! Don't miss it... it's free on Click here for TTA 8! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Wed May 20 18:38:58 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68429 invoked by uid 7800); 21 May 2009 01:38:54 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75229 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 01:37:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 May 2009 01:37:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 01:37:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 01:36:29 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 01:36:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:36:26 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBA76BFEE5A2FE-C4-3810@FWM-D19.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: [cbzines] OT: Getting ready to retire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=Kgd1_p7pyPdQyGpGa0IqArN74G5Y3Ydw6hAQQZCTrirIjTox X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 21 May 2009 01:38:54 -0000 I'm a Superhero. "Oldman" >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tinroad6g > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 3:31 am > Subject: [cbzines] OT: Getting ready to retire >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm old--getting ready to retire. I look forward to sitting around drawin= g and inking. >=20 > May be retired after next week if they don't extend me for a month or two >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 21 04:41:27 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26257 invoked by uid 7800); 21 May 2009 11:41:23 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87501 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 06:05:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 May 2009 06:05:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 06:05:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 06:05:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 06:05:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:05:15 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: Re: TBT gets silly! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=WnNbXFMcpkQViFtznzbR3iqVNE8cMtXbi3Am_w29BN1f5_AL X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 21 May 2009 11:41:23 -0000 The cover art appears to have been done by someone different than the inter= ior art. Who did the pencils and coloring on the cover? > >=20 > TBT gets silly in TBT TRIPLED ACTION #8 introducing The Mighty Inept > Bunch featuring The Moron with a cameo by Jerry Foley's THE NIGHTSHADOW! > Superhero parody with fantastic artwork by GARY BARKER, PAUL CURTIS,=20 > JEFF COOKE, and GUY BERNHOESTER! All this and Sten Kirby too! >=20 > Don't miss it... it's free on >=20 >=20 > Click here for TTA 8! > >=20 >=20=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Thu May 21 04:42:15 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11188 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 11:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 May 2009 11:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 11:42:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1242906079; bh=vBgKblwVYhmqdhrt5QRKPutkx9ItdRLk3mj00T61cXY=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=lBNu7ORkHqoHl/usxsT9LEJJlsfJy/19AVrybe6UyZSKCN2rq7XQnrWfVxtbAATYhsYhl4vzx3hoS1ZQypRtMGSNNw6du33CsPX/qvpkctwtTSFE1w4cjDXe3vp7Sld9 Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 11:41:19 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2009 11:41:19 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71481 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 06:47:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 May 2009 06:47:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.180) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 06:47:55 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 15060 invoked by uid 60001); 21 May 2009 06:47:55 -0000 Message-ID: <340427.2625.qm@web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wt7IbCcVM1kfG_KYnqdEF7NrjML_MCp6up6ZHf3WIHq4foxoCA_CMcjZvbVV7EMJFD.105GBpo7APIowZ06FDYjLOHYLjLb5aEpIypYYZ.VkngsJzVVDuofkHP5.OUd.98dmxYGFTCOarXMeAPO2GC.d35i.Pjkz7SjlEQyGLeLFqqnaSeFW8K7Q2Wz_zZbtLbhh2DdQKx3AUYwV7Uby5p4TVbBGhy4TGHHg7Lw9nDXxtgw2VXpVNk5QtXrWBRVqi95z7RAKj8xSLnfweP36UvjTqe9ltuMupmQKEIM5tki3KxtMPpuu8yDjqJsU1yhEfxYpVgqf X-Received: from [71.246.123.202] by web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 23:47:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:47:55 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject:OT: Big Apple Con FREE ADMISSION Summer Show June 13 NYC! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=5c1q6eInw0WMPeqe1Z9BkmK_a5n79mxPhBKYQYdv-MVAzzaoWvS5f3I X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 21 May 2009 11:41:16 -0000 Mike Carbo's Big Apple Con Presents New York City's Premiere Summer Comic Book Event! New York's Longest-Running Comics Convention Offers FREE ADMISSION for all! Plus! - Bring Your Comics for a Complimentary FREE APPRAISAL by the foremost expert on comic values in the U.S.A. - Mike Carbo! Where: 18th Floor, Hotel Pennsylvania, New York City When: Saturday, June 13th 2009 10:30am-7pm Mike Carbonaro's Big Apple Convention brings its special brand of excitement to the Big Apple for a special FREE ADMISSION Summer Sizzler event! SPECIAL EVENT! Between 1:00 & 2:00pm ONLY - Bring your Comic Collection for an instant FREE verbal APPRAISAL of its current market value by BIG APPLE CON founder and comic book expert - Mike Carbo himself! Headlining the Special Media Guests at this year=E2=80=99s Summer Special Event are: YANCY BUTLER (Witchblade, Law & Order) Legendary WWE wrestler THE IRON SHEIK DEBBIE D (Scream Queen and recording artist) Playboy models JESSICA BURCIAGA and CHERYL BACHMAN JOSE HERNANDEZ JR. (Bad Guy for Hire from HBO=E2=80=99s Oz and A & E=E2=80=99s Watching the Detectives) LEILENE ONDRADE (VH1=E2=80=99s Flavor of Love and I Love Money), LEYLA MILANI (Deal or No Deal, Curb Your Enthusiasm) TNA Wrestling SoCal VAL, TRACI BROOKS, RAIN/PAYTON BANKS, ANGELINA LOVE, LAUREN THOMPSON, and JACKIE HAAS! Comics guests include Silver Age master artists GENE COLAN (Captain America, Daredevil), DICK AYERS (Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider)=C2=A0 JOE GIELLA (Batman, Green Lantern). Underground Comix founding fathers JAY LYNCH (Bijou Funnies, Wacky Packages trading cards) and KIM DEITCH (The Stuff of Dreams, No Business Like Show Business), IRWIN HASEN (Wildcat, Dondi), RICH BUCKLER (Fantastic Four, Deathlok), JAMES SHERMAN (Legion of Super Heroes, Silver Surfer), LARRY HAMA (GI Joe, Wolverine), MIKE LILLY (Vampirella, Punisher), JAMAL IGLE (Supergirl, Teen Titans) , DAN SLOTT (Amazing Spider-Man, Mighty Avengers), LESLIE STERNBERGH (Mad magazine, UG!3K) MICHAEL DIANA (Boiled Angel, Superfly), =C2=A0BRIAN KONG (Star Wars, Lord of the Rings trading cards), DAN FOGEL (Cherry Poptart, Fogel=E2=80=99s Underground Comix Price Guide) And many more including BOB WIACEK, =C2=A0GUY DORIAN, IAN DORIAN, KHARY RANDOLPH, BUZZ, RICH AYERS, STEVE WALKER, RODNEY RAMOS, and BILLY TUCCI (tentative)! MIKE CARBO=E2=80=99S BIG APPLE CON COMIC BOOK, ART, SCI-FI & TOY EXPO kicks off its newest Comic Collectibles event when it presents over100 top dealers & exhibitors showcasing comics, toys, action figures, original art, DVDs, autographs, trading cards, TV, movie, & comic memorabilia & much more! Buy, Sell or Trade your Valuable Collectibles! Come meet & mingle with top television, movie and comic artist celebrities! Collect autographs and have your pictures taken with your favorite celebrities! Expand your personal comic collection and invest in the very latest new toys, action figures, statues and game collectibles! Just sign up by filling out on the form on our website, www.bigapplecon.com, print out the receipt, bring to the convention, and enter for FREE! There will be FREE GIVEAWAYS at the door and SPECIAL EVENTS including panels about comic books, Q&A sessions with celebrities, and MORE! Sponsored in part by FORBIDDEN PLANET New York. DATE: Saturday June 13th, 10:30 am-7pm PLACE: Hotel Pennsylvania, 18th Floor, 401 7th Ave. @ 33rd St. (Across from Madison Square Garden) TICKETS: FREE ADMISSION! Register Online at: www.bigapplecon.com INFORMATION: Press Contact: Dan Fogel (510) 220-6314, bigapplecon@comcast.net To set up an interview with Mike Carbo, or consult him about sale/appraisal of your comics collection, call CHRIS DENIS at 646-996-1851, cpd1@hotmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tinroad6g@yahoo.com Thu May 21 18:24:09 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61373 invoked by uid 7800); 22 May 2009 01:24:07 -0000 X-Sender: tinroad6g@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46904 invoked from network); 22 May 2009 01:22:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2009 01:22:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2009 01:22:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2009 01:22:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2009 01:22:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:22:08 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.2.250.9 From: "tinroad6g" Subject: I --STILL say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=327475630; y=JoqRKz-hbXt_2zcxn-v1UmRZT2sEn21FrKSf3YcAPaJ5GnxX X-Yahoo-Profile: tinroad6g X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 22 May 2009 01:24:07 -0000 The members here should put together a long term zine project just for fun From mail@1stplace.us Fri May 22 17:37:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: mail@1stplace.us X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87836 invoked from network); 23 May 2009 00:37:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 May 2009 00:37:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpauth05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.165.99) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2009 00:37:39 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 17467 invoked from network); 23 May 2009 00:37:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (162.83.160.44) by smtpauth05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.99) with ESMTP; 23 May 2009 00:37:30 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:37:13 -0400 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: 64.202.165.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Deutsch Subject: Re: - I --STILL say X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=223262650; y=vZF_zmFoTvuwogjsA6O--VndNSxvSmCNY7IdGHAltHAL-oA_GJQ9W2Q X-Yahoo-Profile: aspublications I did a benefit book for Autism for my son Jerry. It never made any money but anyone can download it for free at http://stores.lulu.com/1stplace . My children's books Prince The Wonder is print on demand at Amazon which has raised money for Katrina and Autism. Regards, Aaron Mr.A. http://www.jerryandfriends.com Help a boy and others with Autism From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sun May 31 02:55:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36499 invoked from network); 31 May 2009 09:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 May 2009 09:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2009 09:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2009 09:55:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2009 09:55:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:55:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.242.140.42 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: TBT Website updated X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=PFk0JpMq_cfrqDxiXgLT3PNJSsB5lFrYcN27Z76pNsfb9A X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TBT website has been scaled down to one page showing the covers of and providing links to all 25 TBT online comic books. Sometime this Summer Yahoo! will be doing away with GeoCities, so check out the TBT site while you can. (All these internet funnybooks will still available after GeoCities' demise.) Mouse on over to here and check it out: http://www.geocities.com/tim_tt2/index.html?1243762619842 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Mon Jun 08 19:20:27 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26455 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 02:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 02:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 02:20:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1244514006; bh=PXxLG2OVt2TNjfC/vzZ0Wc+nfSUK5GSfvH0mGBRWonI=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Date:To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=RSVFwKmmoXB3+ndLo02mSzKV+RnjW1pLDPjqlt/83sdwYFJ3izuHW5FJoZAToEIFxp25/8B8/IiYPPJBir1qP8NbmLU6Vi1gNjZI76I3cTbYC55ya1Mga9EgXkidNBhB Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 02:20:06 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 02:20:06 -0000 X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2193 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 00:23:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 00:23:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 00:23:44 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 00:23:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 00:23:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:23:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 208.0.9.9 From: "GUY" Subject: Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=t-cfHtvN-27mCtHgyIc6wUJFJuTL8DhBctdm-RiZsTm6NACKb2-4CMM X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 09 Jun 2009 02:20:05 -0000 Hi All=20 I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information o= n how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank e= very one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics=20 5. Komix Illustrated=20 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman =20 From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Tue Jun 09 07:46:59 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 86534 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 14:46:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 14:46:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 14:46:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1244558814; bh=0WNCuTY5vDcy7bzw3+qzkYYITLywQi3kebKHUhLTW5w=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=CYarievE0nXUHSDutKqTE4FQupTokW0rSMdpTXw/brcwYeuQfUEBHmRiO32XGTO6iundOy20tOPu503zf1/8V1ydybk1Z/1zunIdMS/uH951VKNoKFz6Lx0Rvu/+OD3M Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 14:46:54 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 14:46:53 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77325 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 13:26:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 13:26:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.181) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 13:26:56 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 71961 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2009 13:26:55 -0000 Message-ID: <489735.82932.qm@web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .SUWEZkVM1lTjDiLh5APoLhVEh5Pw1CeQmYBa7n906eAHy57JRR1U_e9UIAhX7JNWH5Rnm2wX8GnUSAoMvksaoxXPLjcVc1fMlHWaT.nLo8nJvsUulhtxWupVjB_axMZ9ergRKL4nhwsh6JHZEeZrWoQnk1MDlD.6_4EeCMVxevO5ioVvz2K.g6qcpkoqRNpVhKaWkvhBVsrxAqGRAAGMr93HOQvZygXy.dT4mH923fEzzmm2UZfKhrat6c1XEXJGb_jxEl0yhC1YhRAknS8ggZa24csEqqKH7kcgXzpQlqiESjQDUsTyGJXrpOzB9FxiufbWekCbR4lIw-- X-Received: from [71.255.49.52] by web36304.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:26:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 06:26:55 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.181 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject:OT: Panel schedule for Big Apple con June 13 NYC Announced! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=mYks_aNH0mAIumZFkSa_ilwUuoKQzbuAovq_HTT9gDaED3C--NPUCIg X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 09 Jun 2009 14:46:53 -0000 Here's the list of panels and event for the Big Apple Convention, Saturday, June 13, 2009, New York City. At the Hotel Pennsylvania, 401 7th Ave between 32nd & 33rd streets. Register for FREE ADMISSION at http://www.bigapplecon.com The Big Apple Con Panels!!! The panels for the Big Apple Con Summer Sizzler are as follows: 12:30 - 1:15 : New and old Adventures in the Underground: Kim Deitch, Leslie Sternburgh, Jay Lynch and Mike Diana speak with Big Apple Underground comics maven Dan Fogel. 1:30 - 2:15 ; Modern Creators: Ken Gale moderates this terrific panel with modern comics creators Sean Chen, Dan Slott, Jamal Igle, Khary Randolph and Dennis Calero. 2:30 - 3:15 : Gene Colan & Walt Simonson: One on One. Two of our greatest creators meet to talk comics like few can. Bring your questions! 3:30 - 4:15 : The Amazing World of Kevin O=E2=80=99Neill: It is an honor to have one of our greatest creators at the June Big Apple and we plan to make this a great panel. Moderated by Allan Rosenberg and Dan Fogel. 4:30 - 5:15 : Q&A With Yancy Butler 5:30 - 6:00 Big Apple=E2=80=99s Costume Hoedown Getdown Costume Contest hosted by Zorikh!!! Prizes, laughs and great costumes! Get Zorikh to sing us some songs!!! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmaheras@aol.com Tue Jun 09 12:45:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: RMaheras@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71080 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 19:45:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 19:45:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d20.mx.aol.com) (205.188.139.136) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 19:45:19 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a2ebb8618c; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:44:06 -0400 X-Received: from RMaheras@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.d67.4501e737 (37130) for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:43:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA024-5c3f4a2ebb75257; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:43:55 -0400 X-Received: from mblk-d32 (mblk-d32.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.216]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB035-5c3f4a2ebb75257; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:43:49 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:43:49 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD X-Received: from 208.223.93.2 by mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.216) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:43:49 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBB751BEA035FA-C78-5DE@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.139.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93590821; y=iWxArzw1ZXkw97YaQRJduJtfYC5aVhCvJQnq5Ux-intN80y_vfU9EA X-Yahoo-Profile: maelstrom1974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two issues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 issues of "Komix Illustrated"; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir" Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimited" Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: GUY To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 7:23 pm Subject: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines Hi All I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information on how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank every one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics 5. Komix Illustrated 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jimblasko@yahoo.com Tue Jun 09 14:55:09 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 68173 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 21:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 21:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 21:55:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1244584480; bh=mq54z6z/4d+wtTAgnuWlVycaV89tmUR6ans/Cr6RTlE=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=HPdyANXPhuhUQpfcd05VWC/gZdXWSO+dbXJTSceShnpf5F99AvDWwytYTdpLuq89Q832+DB8x+ufCdrUC1D3C2Qh9fTRoOG6+Wqo+Fim/bFlxU38v/ahqvKZbNeZOFhj Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 21:54:40 -0000 Received: from [98.137.35.13] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2009 21:54:40 -0000 X-Sender: jimblasko@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18084 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2009 20:54:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2009 20:54:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web110415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.8.239) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2009 20:54:42 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22944 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2009 20:54:42 -0000 Message-ID: <336879.22184.qm@web110415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: N9cejacVM1mfBGBbAEMG3GKJNivxv3fsgzHyANPXn0rCiIdzvmoznfce X-Received: from [68.108.29.75] by web110415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:54:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <8CBB751BEA035FA-C78-5DE@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CBB751BEA035FA-C78-5DE@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 67.195.8.239 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jim Blasko Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=335343735; y=EIun1Rfb6zcx7vWR3BBQn9keC0tFR9xciNtOHVEbC7fBQx5f X-Yahoo-Profile: jimblasko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 09 Jun 2009 21:54:39 -0000 check www.c0micb00ks.com ________________________________ From: "rmaheras@aol.com" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:43:49 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two issues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 issues of "Komix Illustrated" ; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir" Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimited" Russ Maheras -----Original Message----- From: GUY To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 7:23 pm Subject: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines Hi All I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information on how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank every one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics 5. Komix Illustrated 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From frankmotler@btinternet.com Tue Jun 09 22:47:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: frankmotler@btinternet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46768 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2009 05:47:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2009 05:47:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web87001.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (87.248.114.53) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2009 05:47:32 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 1336 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2009 05:36:31 -0000 Message-ID: <725455.1306.qm@web87001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uR.EfvsVM1l0garNDFQ2qg.Hfd.jhKi_AlZkYQXiEP1hizvBdJvnUVlZUgLyAfHSIj0IYPH9uyMUrOXgYoMQT.wmHhxKUnruwebOJIoX9g2dQHdlqPWnft7_DZ6L9ML3qzYlCtqPww3zvVoE5mSSei9eS1Sarn1BWYDhfeOaLoRhpQ2Gnv6Dvw98SS2m4rLT_uhr92VrGVv3nrhzOlJNYbQ52ohNMPm1lMy2GsGUj1qP5uNRqdRMDlYdWQqJhtuVJgz3ygOp5Cstf4aRrzR4ybX0Q5y7riY4Da6TSmyN.81VpTWIZanePrpOvVNuOQnPCcaN7jAhOfZVSp8.UiO914omeqiBxBQ4mg-- X-Received: from [86.140.1.11] by web87001.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:36:31 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:36:31 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 87.248.114.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Frank Motler Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=112962324; y=SsNnYgQweA8lXnv0cCnezcHA0bY_1AmeYhar2_SBLHRKo2cUyI6gaY2FbFPCi53SYlQQt38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- On Tue, 9/6/09, rmaheras@aol.com wrote: =A0 From: rmaheras@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 8:43 PM =A0 -----Original Message----- From: GUY Hi All=20 I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information o= n how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank e= very one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics=20 5. Komix Illustrated=20 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman << =A0 I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two i= ssues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 i= ssues of "Komix Illustrated" ; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir= " Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimit= ed" Russ Maheras << =A0 Russ & Guy, CPL Gang Publications also produced some other zines, i recall. =A0 One issue of Heroes Inc (there were 2) & a couple of the later Witzends?? (both Wally Wood zines) =A0 Can't check now, but later if unresolved. regards, frank m. =A0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From frankmotler@btinternet.com Wed Jun 10 01:53:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: frankmotler@btinternet.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61311 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2009 08:53:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2009 08:53:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (87.248.114.67) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2009 08:53:28 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8307 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2009 08:52:27 -0000 Message-ID: <477992.7626.qm@web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LZfohHUVM1k5Z9HKw.aQKCIIXww5KdEF_7AQEnGKHA7bYUVccp_sKTeVOPzJfEnek4M7y0wp3HGPdc2bQRbQ0iBmhcDIRIZA4cH8v1UgSfzfVfPkurFpVPoFwZqUNZE7oWN9a7tsw71BW9YGSh_QnBF5ID.p1xUvknZSl.vV6RYvDbSWl1KEghqV9jTksScec1P_ylG6T3ptHrtqc0X_2HXORNrGFWVyM1d5uytsF8Gr0BZzIgy82yVz1SQptyskqpQGwnQkZSliKujSMfJLA2bl9PlUAp5Sy6m1QlTGM75vv26teBajAyI_4o1MRvx3P6by46utvlY2xvcm3V3J6uErASZ2LCqpQ.jJ X-Received: from [86.140.1.11] by web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:52:27 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:52:27 +0000 (GMT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 87.248.114.67 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Frank Motler Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=112962324; y=T0kRDgBSHndBWyy1Nf2Xp3Y1zk6YnLNMzP_v8IRV_4mwQPE64B4xtrowh97OU2CiFc0MKuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- On Tue, 9/6/09, rmaheras@aol. com wrote: =A0 From: rmaheras@aol. com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 8:43 PM =A0 -----Original Message----- From: GUY Hi All=20 I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information o= n how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank e= very one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics=20 5. Komix Illustrated=20 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman << =A0 I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two i= ssues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 i= ssues of "Komix Illustrated" ; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir= " Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimit= ed" Russ Maheras << =A0 Russ & Guy, CPL Gang Publications also produced some other zines, i recall. =A0 One issue of Heroes Inc (there were 2) & a couple of the later Witzends?? (both Wally Wood zines) =A0 Can't check now, but later if unresolved. regards, frank m. << =A0 follow up: GCD have a partial listing for CPL/Gang http://www.comics.org/publisher_details.lasso?id=3D360 =A0 Richard Arndt, indicates Witzend #10 was by them (there may be others) http://www.enjolrasworld.com/Richard%20Arndt/The%20Early%20Independents.doc= =20 =A0 Here's a potted CPL history: http://doclehman.wordpress.com/category/contemporary-pictorial-literature-c= pl-a-look-back/=20 =A0 regards, frank m. =A0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmain44@aol.com Wed Jun 10 03:58:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: JMain44@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25060 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2009 10:58:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2009 10:58:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m27.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.8) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2009 10:58:25 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a2f91903c4; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:20 -0400 X-Received: from JMain44@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c76.46760858 (34932) for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA045-5c784a2f9188131; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:16 -0400 X-Received: from FWM-M07 (fwm-m07.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.71]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB037-5c784a2f9188131; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:12 -0400 References: <477992.7626.qm@web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:12 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 In-Reply-To: <477992.7626.qm@web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.151.85.76 by FWM-M07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:57:12 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBB7D157D1B767-17DC-2A54@FWM-M07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: jmain44@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=40432478; y=Y1e5dYt9A2Z64oGxnZkMCMSefTNbkoOco84BiItR657m9w X-Yahoo-Profile: jmain44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love to hear all this information spewing forth. I have a good amount of most of these fanzines mentioned, especially Journey Into Comics and PLG Comics. I bought them and the issues of CPL as they were coming out. Those were great times. Jim M -----Original Message----- From: Frank Motler To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 4:52 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines --- On Tue, 9/6/09, rmaheras@aol. com wrote: ? From: rmaheras@aol. com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 8:43 PM ? -----Original Message----- From: GUY Hi All I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information on how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank every one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics 5. Komix Illustrated 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman << ? I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two issues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 issues of "Komix Illustrated" ; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir" Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimited" Russ Maheras << ? Russ & Guy, CPL Gang Publications also produced some other zines, i recall. ? One issue of Heroes Inc (there were 2) & a couple of the later Witzends?? (both Wally Wood zines) ? Can't check now, but later if unresolved. regards, frank m. << ? follow up: GCD have a partial listing for CPL/Gang http://www.comics.org/publisher_details.lasso?id=360 ? Richard Arndt, indicates Witzend #10 was by them (there may be others) http://www.enjolrasworld.com/Richard%20Arndt/The%20Early%20Independents.doc ? Here's a potted CPL history: http://doclehman.wordpress.com/category/contemporary-pictorial-literature-cpl-a-look-back/ ? regards, frank m. ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Wed Jun 10 07:24:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: AIRBOYO2@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39165 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2009 14:24:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2009 14:24:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2009 14:24:27 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-m11.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a2fc20f269; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:24:15 -0400 X-Received: from AIRBOYO2@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.be8.52c58956 (41810) for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:24:09 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: AIRBOYO2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3638995; y=eHx7cuuhT6Jl9OyRJ0xdDuCM3TuLVg1mogMHXdXmJuO01-ZB8vhtV0Yh X-Yahoo-Profile: sheldonmayerfan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 6/10/09 4:53:50 AM, frankmotler@btinternet.com writes: >=20 > CPL Gang Publications also produced some other zines, i recall. >=20 -------------------------------- Frank I lent my issues of CPL to a a couple who were two of my best friends and=20 the issues disappeared somewhere into their enormous collection, never to b= e=20 returned, I am sad to say. They are still considered friends, I just will never be able to replace the= =20 lost issues. I am so glad to see the links you sent to get a glimpse of these things I=20 used to have copies of. --steve ************** Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop: Now in 6 vibrant colors! Shop=20 Dell=E2=80=99s full line of laptops.=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222008777x1201444407/aol?redir=3D= http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566094%3B 37864358%3Bv) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Wed Jun 10 15:08:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4580 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2009 22:08:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2009 22:08:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com) (65.54.246.239) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2009 22:08:15 -0000 X-Received: from BAY108-W14 ([65.54.162.114]) by bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:07:13 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: sparkmang@hotmail.com To: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:07:12 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <477992.7626.qm@web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <477992.7626.qm@web87015.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2009 22:07:13.0278 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEE129E0:01C9EA17] X-Originating-IP: 65.54.246.239 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: RE: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=imMwAbQJUSj-16V2J7M3e8H3tlyVXNJf9V8FPzXxcQOTsD662Aezs68 X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Frank i just wanted to say thanks=20 Thank You & God Bless, Guy E Sparkman=20=20 =20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com From: frankmotler@btinternet.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:52:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines --- On Tue, 9/6/09, rmaheras@aol. com wrote: =20 From: rmaheras@aol. com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines To: comicbookfanzines@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 8:43 PM =20 -----Original Message----- From: GUY Hi All=20 I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information o= n how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank e= very one in advance. 1. CPL Gang Publications 2. PLG Comics 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS 4. Journey into Comics=20 5. Komix Illustrated=20 6. Fantasm 7. YMIR 8. Heroes Unlimited. Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman << =20 I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two i= ssues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 i= ssues of "Komix Illustrated" ; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir= " Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimit= ed" Russ Maheras << =20 Russ & Guy, CPL Gang Publications also produced some other zines, i recall. =20 One issue of Heroes Inc (there were 2) & a couple of the later Witzends?? (both Wally Wood zines) =20 Can't check now, but later if unresolved. regards, frank m. << =20 follow up: GCD have a partial listing for CPL/Gang http://www.comics.org/publisher_details.lasso?id=3D360 =20 Richard Arndt, indicates Witzend #10 was by them (there may be others) http://www.enjolrasworld.com/Richard%20Arndt/The%20Early%20Independents.doc= =20 =20 Here's a potted CPL history: http://doclehman.wordpress.com/category/contemporary-pictorial-literature-c= pl-a-look-back/=20 =20 regards, frank m. =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE.=20 http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut= orial_QuickAdd_062009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From iaf1952@yahoo.com Thu Jun 11 07:00:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51608 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2009 14:00:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2009 14:00:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2009 14:00:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2009 14:00:29 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2009 14:00:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:00:28 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CBB751BEA035FA-C78-5DE@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.217.210.222 From: "iaf1952" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=rSQIpkZH1eHjiX8ap_2xy3hjzeU1vd1EmchRXpTBKXFYPw X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 Super-Heroes Anonymous, interestingly enough, was the venerable Bill Schelly's first attempt at publishing fanzines. It went two issues back in 1965 and then he changed the name to Incognito. Bill then brought the Incognito name back in 1970 when he changed the name of his famous Sense of Wonder fanzine to Incognito with #8 and 9, and then returned it to Sense of Wonder with #10-12, 12 being his final fanzine. So there is no Sense of Wonder 8 or 9. And I think (but I'm not sure) that those 10 issues of Volume 1 of Ymir actually include 5 issues of Johnny Chambers' Fan-Tastic back in 1964 that he renamed Ymir with #6. If comic book publishers could play with their numbering back in those days then fanzine publishers could too! -- Gene (It's A Fanzine) Kehoe --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, rmaheras@... wrote: > > I think there are 12 issues of "C.P.L.";?four issues of "PLG Comics"; two issues of "Super-Heroes Anonymous"; 13 issues of "Journey into Comics"; 13 issues of "Komix Illustrated"; three issues of "Fantasm"; 10 isues of "Ymir" Volume 1; one issue of "Ymir" Volume 2; and five issue of "Heroes Unlimited" > > Russ Maheras > > > -----Original Message----- > From: GUY sparkmang@... > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 7:23 pm > Subject: [cbzines] Information on some fanzines > > > > > > > > > Hi All > I was hoping that some one out there could help with a little information on how many issue certain fanzines had. I have a list below; want to thank every one in advance. > 1. CPL Gang Publications > 2. PLG Comics > 3. SUPER-HEROES ANONYMOUS > 4. Journey into Comics > 5. Komix Illustrated > 6. Fantasm > 7. YMIR > 8. Heroes Unlimited. > > Thank You & God Bless, Guy E. Sparkman > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Sun Aug 30 06:45:47 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91342 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2009 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2009 13:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2009 13:45:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1251639919; bh=mpz1oFFQ2L2pOuM2PB1iJK0lHBVaGoehaoAVRQb8dBw=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-YGroups-SubInfo:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=Wfcm9qFjhORqWHcN9bU+C1so5J193MHyHD1q35o2PKOVg/y1uC95Ixjapk7mY0qR+Z861yyVUOPw7BvqrWJpKRWNRTaUGqVJz5FOQoMv9FDCFJWDuamRI60q2bsFdVDL Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2009 13:45:19 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2009 13:45:19 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11131 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2009 06:09:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2009 06:09:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.183) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2009 06:09:36 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 14123 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Aug 2009 06:08:36 -0000 Message-ID: <947652.13086.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mwBKhDIVM1mEsgWv7GQ.21kS6SkTdfGpmew.x3btQsiM6UvolG.MHd4C0la70YysMz6j_8BBDOjYwKHStK5Cb3EdRePQKewvN4vUEbuV3cdd7NsIE65i_tAVX2Ii0NLizHrTQfqwtB1TMcjoN6vAxk9Nq1dirZ6yFUeSixV7UVv6_p4AfrcTGOe2DSXqW_ggnhWCsmF4Sz2hamFbKa3xrqX.Wj3AdIy9C_n5I5qHRtv3oQqsN_zCx7LhOfsjZN037UOyojE1U7c7KMjF3A6T085zLTdtnBgos1WSQwfAyitZbJjYNtGu4YTzUf.WS0aGpZsQ0HbMwZHZQeAM X-Received: from [71.246.120.223] by web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:08:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:08:35 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.183 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject:OT: Some Q&A's about the Big Apple Con X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=GWQzVbqKy46enE0Eqe-1kU_vSe6DseLrK1SE0G3Fu8ueRkDh-XBEHvg X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-YGroups-SubInfo: t=0;f=4;g=585XIkVH2iiIuKynC1dvpcHliAPSFCpyFTD06z3JmwrAP0C0IMhxM7ICA0Y7cCvT89Y; X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 30 Aug 2009 13:45:18 -0000 There have been several big questions going around about the Big Apple Convention. Here are some simple answers: Q: Is there a comic convention in New York in October? Y: Yes. The Big Apple Comic-Con is running on October 16-18 at Pier 94, 55th Street & 12th Ave. Q: Who owns the Big Apple Convention? A: Wizard World acquired Big Apple Con in 2009. A: Is Mike Carbonaro still involved? A: Yes More detailed information will appear here, or go to www.bigapplecon.com Captain Zorikh [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohmrl@gmail.com Tue Sep 01 15:58:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohmrl@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41461 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2009 22:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m4.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Sep 2009 22:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Sep 2009 22:58:28 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2009 22:57:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2009 22:57:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:57:44 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.84.166.118 From: "blbcomics" Subject: Life, Or Something Like It X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=393247570; y=xGNQ_fzjKhsu136dOtKqDunxS4URqXlF_7zVtcXqenKBKB5u X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Hello Fellow Collectors, Been slowed down a lot, off most of my groups, my little Titanic slowly sin= king the past few years - sorry for any cross-posts you encounter, after re= ading this, you might understand why: After reading this URL from Tony Isabella "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear." http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/tony/back20090901.shtml I wrote this, as the spirit moved me today, http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony/?read=3D204347 which i also repro here with some further minor edits as Tony, =E2=80=A8Read this piece by you back in CBG in 2001, read it just again, it= still remains as powerful now as then. We be on the same page here, as i a= lso was the smallest kid in the class after moving back to the States after= some years growing up in an international school Aramco ran in Ras Tanora,= Saudi Arabia right on the Persian Gulf where we could go swimming year rou= nd as we liked. In Ras Tanora were kids from more than 30 countries, multiple languages, an= d my memories tell me most of these kids thrown together in this sort of en= vironment mostly tended to want to work together, making fun out of life in= the Arabian desert. we also had a very attentive staff at the school which= probably helped a lot in keeping things smooth for us kids, all of whom ha= d zero roots where we were. And we read a LOT of American comic books imported to pacify us younger one= s amongst a community of approximately 10,000 souls thrust into 130 degree = heat in the summer, winter being a balmy 75, a tree a rare commodity to be = treasured & nurtured. Kids with polio were helped by us other kids to parti= cipate in as much sports as possible. The world was a treasure box to explo= re. Upon coming to Fremont, Nebraska, shortly before beloved President John F K= ennedy was disposed of by those who did want any sort of change in this cou= ntry, pinning it on a patsy set up just for that purpose, as in how does a = supposed US Army defector to the Soviet Union just waltz back into this cou= ntry at the height of the Cold War, Russian wife in tow, and not suffer any= consequences unless he was sanctioned from the get-go. But I digress, as i= t were. Upon arrival in Fremont Nebraska, in those early 60s days, after having bee= n in at least 22 countries by the time I was 12, I dealt with fellow peer k= ids who had not even yet been to Omaha, just some 40 miles east of here. Say, if we studied the Taj Mahal in 4th grade geography, i brought an artif= act i bought at the Taj Mahal, from amongst our many travels. During recess= , of course it was stolen out of my desk, then beat up by four boys, who, i= n retrospect were a combo of being jealous as well as them beginning to rea= lize the limitations of their insulated environment as change began permeat= ing & percolating. Those were the days of trying to make every one think an= d be alike. They did not understand when I spoke of what i had been experiencing prior = to my father deciding to come back to his roots after being gone 22 years, = having joined the Navy age 17 in 1943, his Australian bride in tow, buying = the Pepsi Cola distributing rights for most of Dodge County. He bought a new Lincoln or Caddy every year after that, simply trading in t= o get the new one which enticed him the most, I always thought based on who= had the cooler adverts on TV back in the day, as the country began a huge = upheaval in the 60s which thankfully woke up most of America that change to= wards equality, fairness - all that Superman stuff we grew up reading as Un= cle Mort fed us his view of right and wrong thru some able writers & artist= s we all still love to this day From Pepsi and my father i was blessed with on the job training in merchand= ising and product display concepts back when Pepsi was a distant second to = Coke, the Cola Wars began brewing up an advertising storm. I was the first = kid in my county to drink a Mountain Dew back in the mid 60s, opening one r= ight off the truck as we unloaded that week's shipment. Fremont, Nebraska: From whence I escaped as a young man after first beginni= ng to travel with comics for sale or trade to Comicons summer 1967 age 14 t= hru the "big circuit" of 9 shows summer of 1972, partnering with Bud Plant = and John Barrett to form what became Comics & Comix, the first store openin= g late August 1972. Within six months on the UC-Berkeley campus we hosted Berkeleycon 73, the v= ery first Comicon in the Bay Area, its gravity centered on creator-owned, r= oyalty-paying comic books we called comix being sold thru a new form of "un= derground" distribution, which is what made me come to the Bay Area ultimat= ely, as I became part of inventing a new level of comic book retailing and = distribution with my partners and friends we in comics fandom developed all= over the country, even the world. Rick Griffin supplied us with the art fo= r the program book cover. Many thousands of UC-Berkeley students came thru = at a buck a head, kids under 12 were free. A New Generation wanted to shuck the shackles of ARA and other periodical d= istribution monopolies of getting one's wares to market. Meant developing n= ew lines of communication and logistics moving product out of Sparta once P= hil Seuling added in DC, Marvel, Warren, etc to an already developing "unde= rground" method When Will Eisner interviewed Phil in Will Eisner's Quarterly #3, which came= out right around the time Phil passed on in 1984, Phil talks directly abou= t where the idea of a "direct market" came to him as he and Eisner talked, = the conversation transcribed for easy reading flow when printed, he waxes o= n about the underground comix. Phil himself readily acknowledges his debt t= o this new UG distribution system. History shows it was first built up by Bob Rita of the Print Mint once that= Berkeley Calif firm printed 20,000 copies of ZAP COMICS #2 in April 1968 t= aking the title national thru their already developed poster distribution l= ines. They printed same time equal numbers of reprints for ZAP COMICS #1 an= d #0. After selling more than a million ZAP COMICS over the years of the 70s back= in the day, high grade copies of the very rare "Printed by Charles Plymell= " #1 have sold for as high as $13,000 now. Soon many cartoonists came to them with their comic books such as Greg Iron= s, many others, plus solo books from all the creators housed in the antholo= gy which was ZAP. print Mint also issued YELLOW DOG, another anthology show= casing their stars as well as introducing many then-newcomers to the field.= Our Comics & Comix store at 2512 Telegraph Ave was about a mile from the P= rint Mint's 830 Folger warehouse. Soon thereafter Rip Off Press was born in 1969, Last Gasp, Company & Sons, = others followed suit, and a plethora of alternative comic books began tryin= g to find new homes. ZAP COMICS #4 kept getting busted for its content, twas ZAP for which Phil = was taken to jail at one of his NYC shows, which caused him to have to expl= ore a new livlihood once he was fired from his high school teaching positio= n he had done for many years prior. What Phil innovated is add in the concept of "pre-order", though every one = of his customers had to pre-pay two months in advance of shipments leaving = out of his Brooklyn warehouse. If something was bumped from the schedule, i= t took months to get the credit applied. Phil & his partner Jonni Levas wer= e trying to tame a bull by the horns as business exploded. Within a relativ= ely short period of there grew to be 19 Marvel Direct distributors. It was a much different environment for comics back in those post-Batman TV= show days as many of us took up the cause of gaining respect for the comic= s inside which were those fantasies developed by a host of then-unsung crea= tors who themselves had their own demons and dragons they needed to get dow= n on paper, thru censors dictating what the thought processes of others sho= uld be. The hated Comics Code -:) This is what reading your reprint this morning made me think about as I con= template the sheer logic of what you had to say back in 2001, definitely a = rough year for this country on many levels, and still very much apropos tod= ay even though it is clear we all see change coming again to this country. = It will take a march on Washington this Fall in order to accomplish a much-= overdue overhaul to get us towards preventive maintenance of our greed-driv= en health "system" from whence so many of us have now been so unceremonious= ly canceled citing "undisclosed pre-existing condition," in my case because= i said "yes" to the surgeon when asked if I had ever been in a vehicle acc= ident. I described to him aspects of what Steve Duin and Mike Richardson partially= wrote up as "On The Road" in their anecdotal encyclopedia Between the Pane= ls. We were coming out of Houstoncon that summer of 1973, headed to Dallasc= on, the week following we even managed to get to Seuling's July 4th NYC Com= icon. Such is the resilience of youth, but some times things of our youth come ba= ck to haunt you decades in the future you have no idea could happen. There = is much more to that nightmare which befell us then than saw print. That ac= cident haunted me for years some nights when trying to sleep. I can still s= ee that last split nano-second before the windshield glass shattered when w= e hit, breaking both my lower legs, my nose, cracking my skull above the ri= ght eye. Dick Swan and I pulled tiny slivers of glass out of out skulls for= some time following. Now my hip joints are busted, the crushed cartilage f= rom the impacts points having worn off at a much faster rate, leaving very = painful bone on bone. I wish to able able to finish my comics business history book soon, but fir= st I have to be able to walk again, needing bi-lateral hip joint replacemen= t operations soon, now slated for Sept 24, as I hope friends of mine in the= wonderful world of comics will come to my succor. If you wish to see me complete my epic tome on the origins of the American = Comic Book dating to 1842, =E2=80=A8through the origins of the Direct Marke= t as developed in the late 1960s through the 1980s, the last few decades fr= om some one who was "there" for most of its development, =E2=80=A8Simply Buy A Book From Bob in the next couple weeks. T-Minus and Counting till Sept 24, three weeks hence. I need 200 people to buy $50 worth of comics on average in order to get to = my goal of a specially discounted surgery which a friend in the medical ind= ustry has put together. I have a lot of cool vintage comics items dating to 1849 in my eBay store l= ocated at http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS if nothing else, you can scroll thru some rare comics & related artifacts, = some of which you might not ever see again, some being personal treasures I= thought would go in my coffin. This is Crunch Time for me. Thank you. http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS From beerbohmrl@gmail.com Fri Sep 04 21:29:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohmrl@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65907 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2009 04:29:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2009 04:29:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2009 04:29:24 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2009 04:29:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2009 04:29:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:29:23 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.84.166.118 From: "blbcomics" Subject: THANK YOU, MY FRIENDS X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=393247570; y=TTF0_D8FYHtQmiOelYAy_thikVwhG2YJFt_Gd-oUioOSFGTz X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS I wish to thank every one who has stepped up to the plate, shot me some offers, found I have been accepting same, as I continue to steadily inch forward towards my deadline goal for my hip joint replacement operations which is coming Sept 24 I very much want to walk again with no bone on bone mind-boggling pain such as I have never experienced before in my short life on this planet All I am asking is to spend about 10 minutes scrolling through my eBay store as you just might find something you have been looking for you did not know you wanted -:) Each item description in my eBay store is full of key words so you can easily search by publisher, known creators, year, characters & groups, many special events, you might be amazed! Conditions listed by both say letter NM or number 9.2 will easily yield the level you wish to collect or invest into NM VF FVF F VG GVG with plus or minus signs 9.4 9.2 9.0 8.5 8.0 7.5 7.0 6.5 6.0 5.5 5.0 4.5 4.0 3.5 3.0 http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS There is a wealth of fun, vintage, many scarce and rare, comic books covering the gamut of genres well beyond super heroes, as those who know me know I love most all of what has been produced over the decades. Plus Big Little Books, original comic book & strip art, a growing number of pulps, lobby cards with some movie posters http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS_ROCK-ART-POSTERS-HANDBILLS Have posted a large number of vintage rock & roll concert posters & handbil= ls by the likes of Rick Griffin, Victor Moscoso, Wes Wilson, Gary Grimshaw, Mouse & Kelly, Lee Conklin, etc which has also been a long passion of mine. Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/public/default.asp?t=3D1&m=3D1&c=3D34&s= =3D262&ai=3D81492 01 402 727 4071 mostly 9 AM to 6 PM daily - Or Leave a message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=9F From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Mon Sep 07 14:28:13 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94813 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2009 21:28:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2009 21:28:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2009 21:28:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1252358870; bh=n5fmQ3+lV7HVkqaGQZYkDfB9/w2wQLuPB1IU8UBxEIQ=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-YGroups-SubInfo:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=uATstU6GHQ5XMcTLckXDpIQzcHPEk4cGaO6FE2tA4jGi5H3TCwAmEEdnlrN2WbB+EKjz4ZehYZc8++kO8YqqmbOYCw6wnyzrsY8niej4jFb79Pr1nKM9ftPDCaIlLd4I Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2009 21:27:50 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2009 21:27:50 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44043 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2009 12:04:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2009 12:04:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.179) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2009 12:04:58 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 50981 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2009 12:04:58 -0000 Message-ID: <483347.50942.qm@web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GCHEVMwVM1n4jN6flbLndvkQXtBCo5KoSLQfbZ9j83EoA1o.MrEuiwWSLnEnfhqip7Zg0P2r3txjuSoZCdoUrtXlyJ_XcsQeHTfyAOqTzVfr2gn3IA25joXq.FKxSI6C54t1P9OI8zBCBiy12EAToJEgEjtch2DNGnOb6.jfSUr9NtpJnSlF49aGIkbnU5xsecDtd68vVJRGQNTtGkuKvxT2bU6ocsFxh4i8J9TEobP.3zmDtQ3ifnhxcSVI2YNItjf_A_kHEOsVyQVrNRyCnyb4W19gjH3yr4v.eHO4obYo8eATAQbJUWEbWpzmTyWrOVo- X-Received: from [71.246.113.16] by web36302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:04:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 05:04:58 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.179 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject:OT: Big Apple Comic-Con NYC Oct 16-18! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=db-C4GtzLSpiU39msgeQVw87tv2-lqM-xVsldGevurDh8bP6VZmqU9g X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-YGroups-SubInfo: t=0;f=4;g=El0GwB8zBRpz7zKh-0TSaw2Vgof-NUEuLEzSgjMip4u8j2EAic7Aa6cvvBrDeDhcldA; X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 07 Sep 2009 21:27:47 -0000 The biggest Big Apple Comic-Con & Video Game Expo ever is preparing to hit New York City on October 16-18 at Pier 94 in Manhattan, W. 55th Street & 12th Ave. Now a part of Wizard World, this convention will feature the biggest celebrities of movies, TV, comic books, sci-fi, fantasy, horror, rock & roll, baseball, boxing, MMA, pro wrestling, modeling, and pop culture. These names include: =C2=A0 MOVIES & TV Willem Dafoe (Spider-Man, Platoon, Boondock Saints) Linda Hamilton (Terminator, Beauty and the Beast) Sean Young (Blade Runner, Adam West (Batman, The Family Guy) Julie Newmar (Batman, Star Trek) Nichelle Nichols (Star Trek) Billy Dee Williams (Star Wars, Batman) Edward James Olmos (Battlestar Galactica, Blade Runner, Miami Vice) Ioan Gruffudd (Fantastic Four, King Arthur) Tony Amendola (Stargate SG-I, Mask of Zorro, Lois & Clark) Robert Patrick (Terminator 2, The Unit) Ernie Hudson (Ghostbusters, Dragonball Evolution) Helen Slater (Supergirl, Smallville) Melody Anderson (Flash Gordon, Battlestar Galactica) John Schneider (Dukes of Hazzard, Smallville) Catherine Bach (Dukes of Hazzard) Gil Gerard (Buck Rogers in the 25th Century) Erin Gray (Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Silver Spoons) Lou Ferrigno (The Incredible Hulk, King of Queens, Pumping Iron) Herb Jefferson, Jr. (Boomer, Battlestar Galactica) Rekhar Shemarka (Battlestar Galactica, Smallville) Mark Sheppard (Battlestar Galactica, Bionic Woman) Taimak (The Last Dragon, Roadhouse: the Off-Broadway play) Gary Coleman (Diff=E2=80=99rent Strokes) Christopher Knight (The Brady Bunch, Trivial Pursuit) Taylor Kitsch (X-Men Origins: Wolverine, John Carter: Warlord of Mars) Emma Caulfiend (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Beverly Hills 90210) Camden Toy (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Legend of Witch Mountain) Lynn Collins (X-Men Origins: Wolverine, John Carter: Warlord of Mars) Scott Speedman (Underworld Evolution, Kung Fu: The Legend Continues) Michael Papajohn (Spider-Man, Terminator: Salvation) David Heddison (Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Live and Let Die, The Fly) Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett =E2=80=93 Empire Strikes Back) Daniel Logan (Boba Fett =E2=80=93 Attack of the Clones; The Legend of Johnny Lingo) Maria de Aragon (Greedo =E2=80=93 Star Wars) Jerome Blake (Star Wars ep=E2=80=99s I, II, III, The Fifth Element) Nalini Krishan (Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith) Kathy Najimi (King of the Hill, Veronica=E2=80=99s Closet) Bruce Weitz (Hill Street Blues, Lois & Clark) Frank Sivero (Godfather Part II, Goodfellas) David Harris (The Warriors, NYPD Blue) Saul Rubinak (Stargate SG-1, Star Trek: TNG) Aaron Douglas (Battlestar Galactica, Smallville) Michael Hogan (Battlestar Galactica, Solitaire) Jamie Campbell Bower (Twilight: New Moon, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows) Miracle Laurie (Dollhouse) Tarah Paige (The Summoning, stuntwoman, medal-winning gymnast) Leilene Ondrade (Charmed School, Flavor of Love) Daniel Kash (Aliens, War of the Worlds, Robocop) Cynthia Scott: (Aliens, Rush) Cameron Bright (Twilight: New Moon) Rob Demarest (Ghost Hunters International) =C2=A0 Angie Everhart (Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, Last Action Hero) Brande Roderick (2001 Playboy Playmante of the Year, Baywatch) Sandra Taylor (Playboy Playmate, Batman & Robin) Chanel Ryan (FHM, Maxim, Playboy, Hobgoblins 2) Rachelle Leah (Maxim Stuff, UFC All Access) =C2=A0 Mike Daugherty (Screenwriter: X-2, Superman Returns) Joe Viskocil (Oscar-winning special effects wizard: Star Wars, Independence Day, Star Trek: Nemisis, Terminator) Dave Barclay (Puppeteer: Star Wars, Labyrinth, Dark Crystal, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?) =C2=A0 BASEBALL Yogi Berra Pete Rose Dwight Gooden (Do I really have to mention how huge this is? =C2=A0 PRO WRESTLING Ric Flair Ted DiBiase Nora =E2=80=9CMolly Holly=E2=80=9D Greenwald The Iron Sheik Nikolai Volkoff Virgil Lauren Jones Demolition: Ax & Smash =C2=A0 =C2=A0 MMA Renzo Gracie Daniel Gracie Rolles Gracie Igor Gracie Gregor Gracie Matt =E2=80=9CThe Terror=E2=80=9D Serra Eddie Alvarez Andr=C3=A9 Machado Gusm=C3=A3o Dan Miller Jim Miller =C2=A0 BOXING Mia St. John =C2=A0 COMIC CREATORS Guests of honor and special guests: Jim Lee, Joe Quesada, Joe Kubert, Adam Kubert, Andy Kubert, Arthur Suydam, Neal Adams, Gene Colan, Mike Allred, Carlos Pacheco, Mark Texeira, Jim Cheung, Greg Horn, Phil Jimenez, JG Jones, Alex Maleev, Mikr McKone, Alex Saviuk, Herb Trimpe, Billy Tucci, Renee Witterstaetter =C2=A0 Also appearing: Geoff Beckett, Jr, Christina Beranek, Rich Bernatovich, Daniel Bradford, Brian Brinlee, Jim Calafiore, Eric Canete, Robert Crump, J.M. DeSantis, Michael Dolce, Andrew Edge, Jamie Fay, Dave Fox, Franchesco! Tony DiGerolamo, Brad Guigar, James Keenan, Brian Kong, Andre McDonald, Eric Maruscak, Jorge Medina, Lauren Monardo, Keith J. Murphey, James O=E2=80=99Barr, Stephanie O=E2=80=99Donnell, Dan Parent, Scott Passamonte, Joe Quinones, Esad Ribic, Paolo Rivera, Hector E. Rodriguez, James Rodriguez, Brian Roll, Stephane Roux, Everett Soares, Michelle St. Martin, Will Torres, Tim Vigil =C2=A0 POP & ROCK MUSIC Micky Dolenz Taylor Dayne =C2=A0 More guests are sure to be added in the coming weeks. Visit http://www.wizardworld.com/ every Monday for guest updates and more information. =C2=A0 Also befriend, join, subscribe, RSVP, or become a fan at: http://www.facebook.com/WizardEntertainment?ref=3Dprofile#/event.php?eid=3D114442320974 http://www.facebook.com/WizardEntertainment?ref=3Dprofile#/pages/Big-Apple-Comic-Con/90160389444 http://www.myspace.com/wizardworld151 http://www.myspace.com.bigapplenyc http://twitter.com/wizardworld http://newyork.going.com/profile.php?user_id=3Daa59289716 http://www.going.com/bigappleconoct09 http://newyork.going.com/bigapplecon http://tribes.tribe.net/bigapplecon =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There are also plans in the works for special programming, presentations from major comic book companies and movie studios, and after-hours programming. This is certainly going to be an event to remember, and the start of an amazing new chapter in the history of New York=E2=80=99s longest-running comic-con! =C2=A0 Fans can get tix now & save $ at https://wizardworld.ticketleap.com/bigapple =C2=A0 Captain Zorikh WizardWorld =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thebigapplecon@yahoo.com Tue Sep 29 06:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51882 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2009 13:37:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m8.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2009 13:37:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2009 13:37:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1254231426; bh=vvAUZbzTOZ+Z1RbGXIBRk3b8qRSHymfai1Hiaeer+hM=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:X-Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:MIME-Version:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-Yahoo-Profile:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-YGroups-SubInfo:X-eGroups-Edited-By:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=awBj5UwOrFyikwQSm9PpTylsIQLG1WAALgwc4NZ6YaKo8quWXTNShfpp7Y9a4qQXVojFlqAahPq5pjhRWIOYXfIw4kIrlFYVh/9WTFwyYC/Gj/742QO9T+FYUDXTNj2J Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2009 13:37:06 -0000 Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2009 13:37:06 -0000 X-Sender: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39916 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2009 06:26:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2009 06:26:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.91.180) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2009 06:26:35 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 43951 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Sep 2009 06:26:34 -0000 Message-ID: <780007.43480.qm@web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HUTdzeUVM1mcGxJdLeXYcoP495M5u5VpAkuc0dUysKiyhkzcGer86_BA1nOQQSwNq21gMXRocjOhtPmu0k4Ozu.CeTyFQdb3VJsSNOev5B55O7oNhOO9Oogd_UIv9FW9h5lqUWt2yfCQ_r0A9_ytyjM0bdHpVf3X7H5Pcp6jDkw.A9pMXWe8t_vedOyWJX1H63Iq2VLqK2_tAfO54YV5OtZggBKSk49GPEXQtzpyarhRl.fEbmCCPnTLqQrt8EgqUiqFJLhsSRG72amK8g_VtBu8lHnVZRmz8mZv55CUoxdywabAHGAn9k31p98.gI7mx9M- X-Received: from [71.246.111.26] by web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:26:34 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:26:34 -0700 (PDT) To: thebigapplecon@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 209.191.91.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Big Apple Conventions Subject:OT: Jerry Robinson, Mark Bode, more new guests added to Big Apple Comic-con X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=243596312; y=ZoeeIhoXici7PQg0s8MDzGYI8aQsq4i_NQQkH50p15LFSVOhGmpCBY8 X-Yahoo-Profile: thebigapplecon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-YGroups-SubInfo: t=0;f=4;g=Qx68TPuNZkHHRJ2Dl4R_Ve-9f6C01V_6aztbjkEF8pHMvpQl25deaqlcnLeNT8rqTR0; X-eGroups-Edited-By: blakebell37 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via web; 29 Sep 2009 13:37:06 -0000 The excitement never stops! Here are the latest updates on the Big Apple Comic-Con, Oct 16-18, in NYC. =C2=A0 We have added actors Brent Spiner (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Independence Day), Carol Cleveland (Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Monty Python=E2=80=99s Flying Circus), Eric Avari (Stargate, the Mummy, Daredevil), Steve Dash (Friday the 13th part 2, One Life to Live). =C2=A0 We have also added the following comic book artists: Jerry Robinson, Mark Bode, Eric =E2=80=9CEbas=E2=80=9D Basaldua, Daniel Bradford, Ivan Brandon, Bob Budiansky, Dave Devries, Raven Gregory, Terry Huddleston, Blake Hutchins, Leo Leibelman, David Mack, Lauren Monardo, and Billy Tan. =C2=A0 You can see the complete list of celebrities at http://www.wizardworld.com/guests-apple.html =C2=A0 Not all of these guests will be there all three days. Some of these guests are offering advance tickets for their autographs! More guests are sure to be added in the coming weeks. Visit http://www.wizardworld.com/ every Monday for guest updates and more information. =C2=A0 The dealers/exhibitors room is fully booked with the most exciting and diverse collection of dealers and exhibitors Big Apple has ever seem! Check out the list at http://www.wizardworld.com/exhibitors-apple.html =C2=A0 As of now there are plans for three costume contests, one for all ages, one for kids, and one at the after-hours superhero party! For details go to http://www.wizardworld.com/programming-apple.html =C2=A0 There are still discount tickets available! Get them on-line now at https://wizardworld.ticketleap.com/bigapple =C2=A0 Also befriend, join, subscribe, RSVP, or become a fan at: http://www.facebook.com/WizardEntertainment?ref=3Dprofile#/event.php?eid=3D114442320974 http://www.facebook.com/WizardEntertainment?ref=3Dprofile#/pages/Big-Apple-Comic-Con/90160389444 http://www.myspace.com/wizardworld151 http://www.myspace.com.bigapplenyc http://twitter.com/wizardworld http://newyork.going.com/profile.php?user_id=3Daa59289716 http://www.going.com/bigappleconoct09 http://newyork.going.com/bigapplecon http://tribes.tribe.net/bigapplecon =C2=A0 Captain ZorikhWizard World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Wed Oct 14 16:47:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46902 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2009 23:47:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Oct 2009 23:47:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2009 23:47:39 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2009 23:47:39 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2009 23:47:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:47:38 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.154 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 208.0.9.9 From: "sparkplugger23" Subject: Scans of Spotlite #3 by Par Holman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=TSNosNgDvg1ZuiaJa0GUXWVgzQAGWjndTgJr5TQT9Wg01Y0MWowkx_g X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi I am looking for scans of the fanzine Spotlite #3 By Par Holman .What I= am looking for is the best quality scans of the Dimension Man strip. I hav= e all other stories and would love to have all Stories. And if any one has = any of the Gray Grasshopper appearances I would like to have scans or any o= riginal fanzines featuring him. And if any one out there knows how to get i= n touch with Mr. Allen Lucas, I would like to do so.=20 Thanks in Advance Guy E Sparkman=20 From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 19 11:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4673 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2009 18:20:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2009 18:20:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2009 18:20:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2009 18:20:21 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2009 18:20:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:20:19 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.153 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.31.196.59 From: "smithworldorder" Subject: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=VCoFYDjASNW_EDvlHSfxvGkNWU6i0G4e2T7x9v1vhmo1eaXphqfk5vPU X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder A friend is letting go of his copies of Rocket's Blast # 1 & # 2, BOTH COPI= ES BELONGED TO PUBLISHER G B LOVE. They were sold at his estate sale in 200= 1. Any ideas what these would be worth? I know a set of the first ten sold= for big money several years ago. Thanks for any input. Anthony=20 From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Oct 19 11:25:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66423 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2009 18:25:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2009 18:25:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.143) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2009 18:25:43 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9JIPeDw026030 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:25:40 -0400 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id r.ced.660fc344 (14457) for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:21:27 EDT To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Weren't there only a dozen copies or less of those first issues? There's probably only 2 or 3 of each left in existence of #1 and #2. I'd say $100 each would be too little. $500 each seems reasonable. I sure don't have them myself and I think the only ones I ever saw were G.B.'s copies more than 35 years ago. -- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Mon Oct 19 11:36:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: SRS0=uTwm8M=GI=aol.com=fugtussey1@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87555 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2009 18:36:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2009 18:36:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.bis.na.blackberry.com) (216.9.248.48) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2009 18:36:44 -0000 X-Received: from bda484.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda484.bisx.prod.on.blackberry [172.20.218.29]) by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n9JITSsY020148 for comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:36:43 GMT X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1640907586 Message-ID: <1640907586-1255977404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1977980160-@bda484.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal References: In-Reply-To: Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:36:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 216.9.248.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Reply-To: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=chDBgCCaGNICrqLUhC58eqfDrS1lCuGxbahIcnfrqr_6MGpb X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first 4 issues where typed by GB Love using CARBON PAPER - meaning ther= e are only 5 copies of each of those issues EVER in existence. I would say = that these are pretty much Holy Grail fanzines that should bring in at leas= t $1000 ea. By the way those first 20 RBCC were sold to Jim Halperin about = 6 years ago for $13000. =0D =0D Aaron Caplan=0D Sent on the Now Network=99 from my Sprint=C2=AE BlackBerry=0D =0D -----Original Message-----=0D From: Jimvanhise@aol.com=0D Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:21:27 =0D To: =0D Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!!=0D =0D Weren't there only a dozen copies or less of those first issues? There's = =0D probably only 2 or 3 of each left in existence of #1 and #2. I'd say $100 = =0D each would be too little. $500 each seems reasonable. I sure don't have th= em =0D myself and I think the only ones I ever saw were G.B.'s copies more than 3= 5 =0D years ago. -- James Van Hise=0D =0D =0D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]=0D =0D =0D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 19 11:48:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69211 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2009 18:48:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2009 18:48:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost04.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.104) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2009 18:48:49 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail17.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.157]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20091019184746H0400g4toke>; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:46 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.196.59] by fwebmail17.isp.att.net; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:44 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:44 +0000 Message-Id: <101920091847.22741.4ADCB450000CB80C000058D522228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.104 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=try89gy1h2NPTxn18TnwYmdqHK1tmBSxmkKfR3zn5vgp9o8qUDiLSP1y X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, Always good to hear from you. My understanding is G.B. hand-typed (at least) the first two issues using carbon paper to create about 6 at a time (the last one in line must have been pretty faint!) and he may have done this twice to fill all orders; so about a dozen each is a good guess. I know of several people -- maybe 4 or 5 -- that are suppose to own a copy of number one. And a set of the first 10 sold for (I think) $6000 + then resold for $9000 ... if I am recalling correctly. This was about 5 years ago. If anyone knows the details, I would appreciate having them. Personally, I would suggest at least $1000 for the first issue, and not much less for the second, or more. Besides their inherent rarity and historical significance (if you can refer to any fanzine as "significant"!), they belonged to G.B., a "significant" figure in comic fanzine history himself. Completely irrelevant to the above, but an interesting story: I knew G.B. from the time he moved to Houston circa 1980 until his death 20 years later. He was close friends and partners in business with numerous mutual friends. I, and no one I knew, was aware what the middle initial of his name stood for; he resolutely refused to tell anyone. I googled him a couple of months ago and there it was: his middle name for the whole world to see. Where ever G.B. is I can picture him with that perturbed, dyspeptic look I knew so well. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 19 11:53:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14660 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2009 18:53:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2009 18:53:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost04.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.104) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2009 18:53:49 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail11.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.151]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20091019184939H0400g4tsee>; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:49:39 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.196.59] by fwebmail11.isp.att.net; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:49:38 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:49:38 +0000 Message-Id: <101920091849.5802.4ADCB4C2000D9288000016AA22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <1640907586-1255977404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1977980160-@bda484.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1640907586-1255977404-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1977980160-@bda484.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.104 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=c8RaNLBEDlCXQtmzjluOzDhWRksi6_HBSd32X68L0Di7b7vSnRzYbc3_ X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Aaron, Thanks for the information. Seems I remembered all the details wrong! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Ian@dimestoreproductions.com Wed Jan 06 12:40:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ian@dimestoreproductions.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60082 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2010 20:40:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2010 20:40:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n6-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.102) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2010 20:40:31 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.239] by n6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2010 20:40:03 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by t4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2010 20:40:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2010 20:40:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:40:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 67.195.135.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.165.155.13 From: "AIPman1" Subject: Small Press Idol 2010 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6403038; y=p2d-D4guS_DMSBWr0LmeedToPLZxqoGTXy2g72DMae-cGA X-Yahoo-Profile: AIPman1 We're starting up this year's Small Press Idol=85and wanted to invite you t= o the grand unveiling of this year's Guidelines, at the brand new Idol URL.= That's right, the contest has finally moved into it's own website. At this= time, individuals and teams have just about a month till we start posting = projects. Round 1 will last till March 22nd. It's a solid window to get a p= roject together and qualified for Round 2 past our judge panel. If you are = interested in being a contestant, this is fair warning to get a project goi= ng! Check out this year's guidelines and pre-register now! We continue to w= ork with Haven Distribution to bring the Idol contest to the retail store l= evel. This year: All comic pages will be in Full Color for the first time! Just want to watch the show? That's great! Now is time to sign up at the si= te so you can VOTE in the rounds to come, and post comments about your favo= rites! We're expecting hundreds of contestants this year. It should be a lo= t of fun! http://www.smallpressidol.com/2010/start.htm=20 Hope this message reaches you in the spirit it was intended, you are welcom= e to ask questions, and otherwise make sure this is for real. This is the S= eventh year for the SPI. Last year's contest pages are still online. So tha= t's what this is about, hope it interests you! - Ian Shires From Doc0715@aol.com Sat Feb 13 13:14:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86966 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2010 21:14:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2010 21:14:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2010 21:14:16 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2010 21:13:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2010 21:13:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:13:14 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <101920091847.22741.4ADCB450000CB80C000058D522228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 216.49.218.2 From: "thedocdor" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=btpGtLsWCtuEvj2UAROyS65C5n4WeMViCyO0ZFlO6qNGxO0yhLnmz1ii X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So did the issues sell? I met GB when I worked at the Capital City Warehouse in Houston He came by with Roy Bonario and Glenn..rats cannot remember his last name. I have a page about GB on my INTER-FAN site under IF Fandom Hall of Fame. Wish I had hasd a photo taken with him. www.inter-fan.org/history/gblove.htm DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Always good to hear from you. My understanding is G.B. hand-typed (at least) the first two issues using carbon paper to create about 6 at a time (the last one in line must have been pretty faint!) and he may have done this twice to fill all orders; so about a dozen each is a good guess. > > I know of several people -- maybe 4 or 5 -- that are suppose to own a copy of number one. And a set of the first 10 sold for (I think) $6000 + then resold for $9000 ... if I am recalling correctly. This was about 5 years ago. > > If anyone knows the details, I would appreciate having them. > > Personally, I would suggest at least $1000 for the first issue, and not much less for the second, or more. Besides their inherent rarity and historical significance (if you can refer to any fanzine as "significant"!), they belonged to G.B., a "significant" figure in comic fanzine history himself. > > Completely irrelevant to the above, but an interesting story: I knew G.B. from the time he moved to Houston circa 1980 until his death 20 years later. He was close friends and partners in business with numerous mutual friends. I, and no one I knew, was aware what the middle initial of his name stood for; he resolutely refused to tell anyone. > > I googled him a couple of months ago and there it was: his middle name for the whole world to see. Where ever G.B. is I can picture him with that perturbed, dyspeptic look I knew so well. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohmrl@gmail.com Sun Feb 14 09:39:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohmrl@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32085 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2010 17:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2010 17:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n6-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.102) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2010 17:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.238] by n6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2010 17:38:37 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by t3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2010 17:38:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2010 17:38:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:38:37 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 67.195.135.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 97.119.91.173 From: "BLBcomics.com" Subject: Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=393247570; y=jSg0q_wGKyPICUpTtEjUskYK616o-nw0O3SqnHFf3vKB3Zjq X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics I got my first RBCC #45 back in 1966 in response to GB placing one of the v= ery first adverts in Marvel comics. My first advert inside RBCC was soon th= ereafter in #47 which i remember appearing Oct 1966. Soon there after I lau= nched on a quest to obtain a complete set of RBCC which is technically comp= lete starting with #29 when ComiCollector was merged into Rocket's Blast. S= ince then, I have been able to get down to almost all of them to #12 - tis = the earlier issues which still eldude me. The only complete set i ever got = to gotr thru belongs to Buddy Saunders, an initial subscriber from #1 As far as I know, and remember discussing with a lot of "old timer" comics = fans, as well as Gordon L himself, there was only six issues of #1 typed ou= t on carbon papers. This "second printing" of him retyping out #1 on a seco= nd set of six carbon papers is news to me. Where does one get that info the= re were twelve #1 issues made up? best Robert Beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=DF Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Feb 15 10:58:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40208 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 18:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2010 18:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost05.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.105) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 18:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail14.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.114]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20100215185801H050061s6oe>; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:58:01 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail14.isp.att.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:58:01 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:58:01 +0000 Message-Id: <021520101858.27083.4B79993900049582000069CB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.105 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=hrufRgDlCKaAsJ0HhukZZ0pqQ8t1TRm_SFZ8egM5heunlTN5dz5XL44U X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, If you reread my original post you will see the word "may" qualifying my st= atement about GB's RB print run. I was hardly GB's closest friend but I di= d know him for 20 years, visited his home numerous times, went to conventio= ns & dinner & local social events with him. I was better friends with his c= losest buddies though, people like Herman Taylor, Walter Irwin, Roy Bonario= , Earl Blair. The subject of RBCC came up from time to time, as you can imagine. However= , GB was never the most reliable source of information given his memory and= his general lack of interest in things he was no longer involved in. When = I knew him he wasn't interested in fandom but rather vintage toys, old movi= es, and anything to do with Christmas, Halloween & World War Two.=20=20 (His lack of interest was born out at his estate sale: he had a single co= py of RB 1&2 & a few scattered later numbers but nothing else really to do = with RBCC, his other publications, or other fanzines, all of that sold off = years earlier. There were a few miscellaneous lots of art from RBCC -- I bo= ught one or two myself -- and a CC Beck recreation of a Mystery In Space co= ver ( I bought this also) but everything else was either old reading copies= of comics, material from the collecting fields I mentioned above or a ton = of this and that.) At some point, when the subject of his publishing came up it was suggested = there may have been more than the initial 6 copies done; not neccessarily 1= 2 but some number from 6-12. I also recall that GB took the last copies (th= e number 6 copy) with the faintest reproduction from the carbons & distribu= ted the pages through out the print run so no one would get an entirely poo= r copy. I can ask around if anyone recalls more precisely what he said but this is = complicated by the passing of Herman, Walter & other close friends like Ma= rc Schooley. I've spoken to Roy recently & I know he doesn't remember anyt= hing about it. Make of the suggestion what you will. BTW, GB's copies of 1 & 2 have changed hands & are now in the collection of= a local fan. He wanted to bid at the estate sale on them but deferred to a= mutual friend, who repaid the original kindness by giving him first shot &= at a reasonable price. A -------------- Original message from "BLBcomics.com" = : --------------=20 =20=20 I got my first RBCC #45 back in 1966 in response to GB placing one of the v= ery first adverts in Marvel comics. My first advert inside RBCC was soon th= ereafter in #47 which i remember appearing Oct 1966. Soon there after I lau= nched on a quest to obtain a complete set of RBCC which is technically comp= lete starting with #29 when ComiCollector was merged into Rocket's Blast. S= ince then, I have been able to get down to almost all of them to #12 - tis = the earlier issues which still eldude me. The only complete set i ever got = to gotr thru belongs to Buddy Saunders, an initial subscriber from #1 As far as I know, and remember discussing with a lot of "old timer" comics = fans, as well as Gordon L himself, there was only six issues of #1 typed ou= t on carbon papers. This "second printing" of him retyping out #1 on a seco= nd set of six carbon papers is news to me. Where does one get that info the= re were twelve #1 issues made up? best Robert Beerbohm Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=9F Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Feb 15 11:03:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62035 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 19:03:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2010 19:03:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.51) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 19:03:14 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail14.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.154]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100215190314H0100t2i6qe>; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:03:14 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail14.isp.att.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:03:13 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:03:13 +0000 Message-Id: <021520101903.1981.4B799A7100069A3A000007BD22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <101920091847.22741.4ADCB450000CB80C000058D522228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=ynZF1tLbZlWER9GTq25MUa03ZrSSutXT6ZrxBi0YVVVo50z147ND1HCt X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Docdor, See my earlier email -- yep, the copies did sell, though they only moved a few miles in town. You are thinking of Glenn Kessler, longtime Superman & Roy Rogers fanatic & former owner of Happy Trails comic shop. Glenn & Roy are still around & doing well. Did you know Bill Pearson when you worked at Capitol City? Best, A [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 15 11:43:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16699 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 19:43:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2010 19:43:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-ma05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.100.31) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 19:43:55 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1FJho5T027420 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:43:50 -0500 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.d2f.5d2e3eab (37530) for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:43:48 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from magic-d24.mail.aol.com (magic-d24.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.158]) by cia-mb01.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB013-929a4b79a3f12f1; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:43:45 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:43:45 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 76.83.200.196 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.158 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 64.12.100.31 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter Irwin died? Wasn't he at least a decade younger than G.B.?--James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Mon Feb 15 12:11:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46284 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 20:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2010 20:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.51) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 20:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail13.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.153]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100215201152H0100t2i03e>; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:52 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail13.isp.att.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:51 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:51 +0000 Message-Id: <021520102011.26398.4B79AA87000941F80000671E22218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=4mBBMDgYNQgjTYqlFkMFc6sWVEJKJohlSpijtM9tp_uN8xmjOFJ-lZUz X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, Weege (Walter) died either four or five years ago this year. He was i= n the best shape I'd seen him in for years but was diagnosed with pancreati= c cancer. He died about two and half months later. He was two years older= than me so he would have been 60 this year, about a decade younger than GB= . BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? Best, A -------------- Original message from Jimvanhise@aol.com: --------------=20 =20=20 Walter Irwin died? Wasn't he at least a decade younger than G.B.?--James=20 Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Mon Feb 15 12:35:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45469 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2010 20:35:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2010 20:35:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-ma06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.78.142) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2010 20:35:23 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1FKYFXf011747 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:34:15 -0500 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.c13.4cfc7e59 (43962) for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:34:10 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from magic-d24.mail.aol.com (magic-d24.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.158]) by cia-dd02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD023-abba4b79afbf35f; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:34:07 -0500 Message-ID: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:34:07 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 76.83.200.196 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.158 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 64.12.78.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net writes: BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwallace2@triad.rr.com Mon Feb 15 17:02:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: cwallace2@triad.rr.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65693 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 01:02:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 01:02:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 01:02:10 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2010 01:01:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2010 01:01:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:01:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 98.26.192.64 From: "chalwa10766" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64241573; y=kDuksacoNvngef7kAxugh_r2y0vGVH3US-DMz-CJ-Cg3CTPmGqQ X-Yahoo-Profile: chalwa10766 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He= said he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jer= ry I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From tmhamilton@aol.com Mon Feb 15 18:15:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92777 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 02:15:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 02:15:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-db02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.91.96) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 02:15:56 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1G2Fmgt016304 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:48 -0500 X-Received: from TMHamilton@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.d3d.54b2e458 (37070) for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:44 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com [205.188.84.131]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB054-d4094b79ffc030a; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:40 -0500 X-Received: from webmail-d033 (webmail-d033.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.81]) by smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDD035-d4094b79ffc030a; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:28 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:27 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 207.14.215.118 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30746-STANDARD X-Received: from 207.14.215.118 by webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:15:27 -0500 Message-Id: <8CC7CC50A7FBC2F-31A8-9603@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: TMHamilton@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 205.188.91.96 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: tmhamilton@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3364560; y=pS1__kJteaDE_1rwHUafzpK5DzduXyulqdc9IAQ8B-kEZ_zmK1jKmbI X-Yahoo-Profile: juliusschwartz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great blog - keep posting! Tom -----Original Message----- From: chalwa10766 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 8:01 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! =20 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He s= aid he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jerry= I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Tue Feb 16 10:59:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9254 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 18:59:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 18:59:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost05.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.105) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 18:59:41 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail08.isp.att.net ([204.127.218.108]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20100216185938H050061s69e>; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:59:38 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail08.isp.att.net; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:59:37 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:59:37 +0000 Message-Id: <021620101859.26144.4B7AEB19000ACA880000662022230703729B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.105 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=v6QY7w5t-WpZT9T0FviTbNK8VzjTISdgH0NRxD6qzWO_-t4XjxnRo_7Q X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard from Earl Blair who says he spoke about RB to GB several times & he= always said there were only 6 copies & never mentioned retyping it for add= itional sales. Another friend -- he had the issues that belonged to GB -- = says issue number 2 lists the 6 subscribers. I am conceding this stamps pa= id to the rumor I passed along! Sorry for any confusion. A -------------- Original message from "chalwa10766" = : --------------=20 =20=20 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He s= aid he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jerry= I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Tue Feb 16 11:09:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60929 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 19:09:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 19:09:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost02.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.102) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 19:09:15 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail09.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.159]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100216190758H02009ghb5e>; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:07:58 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail09.isp.att.net; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:07:58 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:07:58 +0000 Message-Id: <021620101907.29042.4B7AED0E0004931A0000717222218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=JU1FxqSrG2TEj8L-pqpSFnlXYwjfP1BahlcJywAcygpZSyTa8DNgPVJK X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris, I tried to email you privately but your mailbox is full. Please let me know= how to contact you offlist. A -------------- Original message from "chalwa10766" = : --------------=20 =20=20 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He s= aid he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jerry= I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From beerbohmrl@gmail.com Tue Feb 16 13:00:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohmrl@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95156 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 21:00:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 21:00:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 21:00:40 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2010 21:00:12 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2010 21:00:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:00:10 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <021520101858.27083.4B79993900049582000069CB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.84.242.252 From: "BLBcomics.com" Subject: Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=393247570; y=f3mCFvjIDMZrSyIyzwE2jMfO2RqXWQuYfVP5MK7Lw45gj2jz X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics Hi Tomy Sho Nuff, there is that pesky "may" in there. -:) My initial info came from Buddy Saunders, in possession of the only known c= omplete run of RB, CC >> RBCC I am aware of, though there might easily be a= nother complete run i am currently in the dark on Six carbon paper copies, hand typed, as Buddy was one of the six initial su= bscribers, and soon there after started doing art for Gordon in those pre S= tar Studded days. He and I went thru his early Rocket's Blast issues in his= house oh maybe a decade ago now My earliest RB is #12 - and near complete from that point up, maybe missing= one in the teens if i recollect correctly once I heal up from having both my hip joints replaced with metal implants,= will dig out my RB CC RBCC boxes, and figure out that want list, such as i= t will be, as I have all of ComiCollector as well Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially turned= its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, then weekly= , all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine GB's ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe serves as a seminal spark jump-starting some of= the earliest aspects of what evolved into the Direct Market as Godrdon was= doing such long before Phil Seuling or Bud Plant got into the fanzine sell= ing business best bob Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=9F Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Bob, >=20 > If you reread my original post you will see the word "may" qualifying my = statement about GB's RB print run. I was hardly GB's closest friend but I = did know him for 20 years, visited his home numerous times, went to convent= ions & dinner & local social events with him. I was better friends with his= closest buddies though, people like Herman Taylor, Walter Irwin, Roy Bonar= io, Earl Blair. >=20 > The subject of RBCC came up from time to time, as you can imagine. Howev= er, GB was never the most reliable source of information given his memory a= nd his general lack of interest in things he was no longer involved in. Whe= n I knew him he wasn't interested in fandom but rather vintage toys, old mo= vies, and anything to do with Christmas, Halloween & World War Two.=20=20 >=20 > (His lack of interest was born out at his estate sale: he had a single = copy of RB 1&2 & a few scattered later numbers but nothing else really to d= o with RBCC, his other publications, or other fanzines, all of that sold of= f years earlier. There were a few miscellaneous lots of art from RBCC -- I = bought one or two myself -- and a CC Beck recreation of a Mystery In Space = cover ( I bought this also) but everything else was either old reading copi= es of comics, material from the collecting fields I mentioned above or a to= n of this and that.) >=20 > At some point, when the subject of his publishing came up it was suggeste= d there may have been more than the initial 6 copies done; not neccessarily= 12 but some number from 6-12. I also recall that GB took the last copies (= the number 6 copy) with the faintest reproduction from the carbons & distri= buted the pages through out the print run so no one would get an entirely p= oor copy. >=20 > I can ask around if anyone recalls more precisely what he said but this i= s complicated by the passing of Herman, Walter & other close friends like = Marc Schooley. I've spoken to Roy recently & I know he doesn't remember an= ything about it. Make of the suggestion what you will. >=20 > BTW, GB's copies of 1 & 2 have changed hands & are now in the collection = of a local fan. He wanted to bid at the estate sale on them but deferred to= a mutual friend, who repaid the original kindness by giving him first shot= & at a reasonable price. >=20 > A >=20 > -------------- Original message from "BLBcomics.com" : --= ------------=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 > I got my first RBCC #45 back in 1966 in response to GB placing one of the= very first adverts in Marvel comics. My first advert inside RBCC was soon = thereafter in #47 which i remember appearing Oct 1966. Soon there after I l= aunched on a quest to obtain a complete set of RBCC which is technically co= mplete starting with #29 when ComiCollector was merged into Rocket's Blast.= Since then, I have been able to get down to almost all of them to #12 - ti= s the earlier issues which still eldude me. The only complete set i ever go= t to gotr thru belongs to Buddy Saunders, an initial subscriber from #1 >=20 > As far as I know, and remember discussing with a lot of "old timer" comic= s fans, as well as Gordon L himself, there was only six issues of #1 typed = out on carbon papers. This "second printing" of him retyping out #1 on a se= cond set of six carbon papers is news to me. Where does one get that info t= here were twelve #1 issues made up? >=20 > best > Robert Beerbohm >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Feb 16 13:38:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59186 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 21:38:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 21:38:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-db03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.91.97) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 21:38:07 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1GLc5b9029821 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:38:05 -0500 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.cfd.71676e5d (37049) for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:38:01 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from magic-d24.mail.aol.com (magic-d24.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.158]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB037-90b94b7b10363de; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: <155d8.2b7a8de2.38ac6a36@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:37:58 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 76.83.200.196 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.158 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 205.188.91.97 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:00:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, beerbohmrl@gmail.com writes: Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially turned its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, then weekly, all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine Interestingly, G.B. never saw Alan Light as a threat. He just figured it would exist like other fanzines existed where some continued and some folded. But Alan Light knew what he was doing, and to insure that no one could do to him what he did to G.B., Alan refused to accept ads for anything he viewed as competition, like the Nostalgia Journal. When Gary Groth acquired the Nostalgia Journal from the guys in Texas, Alan refused to accept his ads, which is where the great feud between Alan and Gary Groth originated way back in the 1970s. Gary ultimately turned The Nostalgia Journal into The Comics Journal and stopped trying to make it an adzine. But he continued to hate Alan Light for years and years and never missed a chance to take a shot at him in TCJ. If Alan hadn't essentially retired in the 1980s, Gary Groth would still be complaining about him but Alan is no longer on Fandom's radar.-- Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From iaf1952@yahoo.com Tue Feb 16 14:07:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: iaf1952@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76794 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 22:07:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 22:07:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web112317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.137.26.184) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 22:07:51 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 38119 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2010 22:07:41 -0000 Message-ID: <828340.37789.qm@web112317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WlnoMMkVM1l4rFfxdmjB62yCfycIdtnVuCyJOPHlxHXgiDJ5OQIK376EdJVzneYLsslq5cHGUI1sxaZnfB4kPCtJY6k0bfz4pV3XactgcFCOc_MiQ6FOjYvvzOSb9x0NOYk87uAuc9XNf0bwAO1AkDFZ7tVS3wdpez2u2Fo58tV3AZ4D56XfKskh1yeymw517TZ0iB0U7YkW.WpBuBhSH4WCt3Wyj058MIxxopz7ZtR2xKmNnOVmvxfaeRRQz9ySwvRhQtyqU0Cfijv3nVyVHlij7BoBmfmqvQLiF6hdKGI9WA3mBL9HbARQ77.kXQ-- X-Received: from [216.203.112.163] by web112317.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:07:41 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:07:41 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.137.26.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Gene Kehoe Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=302243798; y=P66vKSOKvwXpvcbxtbizi3SQM6h1EBSLP1SUjokSl9kBrA X-Yahoo-Profile: iaf1952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yet Alan probably never could have even gotten started without advertising = his new TBG in RBCC, but he wouldn't take advertising for The Nostalgia Jou= rnal. Rather hypocritical. And I believe Alan even published a couple of th= e later issues of Groth's Fantastic Fanzine (at least FF Special II) just a= couple years earlier. And where did Alan get his initial mailing list for = TBG? I remember my brother and I both got copies in the mail of #1, and TBG= remained free for about a year if memory serves. Then he saw dollar signs = and started charging for a sub and jacking ad rates! =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Gene Kehoe ________________________________ From: "Jimvanhise@aol.com" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 3:37:58 PM Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! =C2=A0=20 In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:00:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 beerbohmrl@gmail. com writes: Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially=20 turned its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, then= =20 weekly, all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine Interestingly, G.B. never saw Alan Light as a threat. He just figured it=20 would exist like other fanzines existed where some continued and some folde= d.=20 But Alan Light knew what he was doing, and to insure that no one could do=20 to him what he did to G.B., Alan refused to accept ads for anything he=20 viewed as competition, like the Nostalgia Journal. When Gary Groth acquired= the=20 Nostalgia Journal from the guys in Texas, Alan refused to accept his ads,=20 which is where the great feud between Alan and Gary Groth originated way=20 back in the 1970s. Gary ultimately turned The Nostalgia Journal into The=20 Comics Journal and stopped trying to make it an adzine. But he continued to= =20 hate Alan Light for years and years and never missed a chance to take a sho= t=20 at him in TCJ. If Alan hadn't essentially retired in the 1980s, Gary Groth= =20 would still be complaining about him but Alan is no longer on Fandom's=20 radar.-- Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Tue Feb 16 14:14:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4609 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 22:14:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2010 22:14:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.146) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 22:14:18 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1GME59N032334 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:14:05 -0500 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.c22.77e4a4a3 (44620) for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:14:01 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from magic-d24.mail.aol.com (magic-d24.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.158]) by cia-mc01.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC011-ae4c4b7b18a623a; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:13:58 -0500 Message-ID: <16a3f.7951acf9.38ac72a6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:13:58 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 76.83.200.196 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.158 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/16/2010 2:08:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, iaf1952@yahoo.com writes: TBG remained free for about a year if memory serves. Then he saw dollar signs and started charging for a sub and jacking ad rates! Originally Alan advertised TBG as having "free lifetime subsciptions" and it was free for a few years (didn't he start in 1972?) but after any hope of competition had faded he began charging for it, a small amount at first, but it gradually increased over the years. Alan was smart enough to sell TBG and get out long before the market changed in the 1990s where CBG was eclipsed by the internet to the point where it is now barely hanging on. The latest issue I received was 84 pages long while 2 years ago they were 178 pages long.--JVH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Feb 17 10:43:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74857 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2010 18:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2010 18:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.51) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2010 18:38:20 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail17.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.157]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100217183819H0100t2ig6e>; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:38:19 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail17.isp.att.net; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:38:19 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:38:19 +0000 Message-Id: <021720101838.10473.4B7C379B00021831000028E922228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <155d8.2b7a8de2.38ac6a36@aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=dz59cwamQ8D1--B7T1EdVKhbo0MZT7_Ymzc8BH3SbTBHWh7uCo87roV- X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wasn't Alan Light a celebrity reporter for a long time? I wonder where he = is today and what he is doing... A -------------- Original message from Jimvanhise@aol.com: --------------=20 =20=20 In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:00:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 beerbohmrl@gmail.com writes: Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially=20 turned its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, then= =20 weekly, all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine Interestingly, G.B. never saw Alan Light as a threat. He just figured it=20 would exist like other fanzines existed where some continued and some folde= d.=20 But Alan Light knew what he was doing, and to insure that no one could do=20 to him what he did to G.B., Alan refused to accept ads for anything he=20 viewed as competition, like the Nostalgia Journal. When Gary Groth acquired= the=20 Nostalgia Journal from the guys in Texas, Alan refused to accept his ads,=20 which is where the great feud between Alan and Gary Groth originated way=20 back in the 1970s. Gary ultimately turned The Nostalgia Journal into The=20 Comics Journal and stopped trying to make it an adzine. But he continued to= =20 hate Alan Light for years and years and never missed a chance to take a sho= t=20 at him in TCJ. If Alan hadn't essentially retired in the 1980s, Gary Groth= =20 would still be complaining about him but Alan is no longer on Fandom's=20 radar.-- Jim Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Feb 17 11:30:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57865 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2010 18:41:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2010 18:41:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.51) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2010 18:41:09 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail17.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.157]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100217184056H0100t2ja1e>; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:40:56 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.81.62] by fwebmail17.isp.att.net; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:40:56 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:40:56 +0000 Message-Id: <021720101840.13738.4B7C38380000C1CF000035AA22228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <021520101858.27083.4B79993900049582000069CB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=9zpgJEo-ioFXc5PofWQqRfREYGxAWICagNGcHWWbXLafrrLlC8UUMfHn X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Bob, As you "may" (ha, ha) read in a later post I retracted my own rumor after c= onsulting a few other people. While it seems to my like there have been mor= e than 6 copies reported over the years there's no way of knowing if they a= re all the same 6 copies simply changing hands. And, according to Earl Blai= r, GB was very specific he only typed 6 and listed the subscribers in the s= econd issue (totaling 6). A -------------- Original message from "BLBcomics.com" = : --------------=20 =20=20 Hi Tomy Sho Nuff, there is that pesky "may" in there. -:) My initial info came from Buddy Saunders, in possession of the only known c= omplete run of RB, CC >> RBCC I am aware of, though there might easily be a= nother complete run i am currently in the dark on Six carbon paper copies, hand typed, as Buddy was one of the six initial su= bscribers, and soon there after started doing art for Gordon in those pre S= tar Studded days. He and I went thru his early Rocket's Blast issues in his= house oh maybe a decade ago now My earliest RB is #12 - and near complete from that point up, maybe missing= one in the teens if i recollect correctly once I heal up from having both my hip joints replaced with metal implants,= will dig out my RB CC RBCC boxes, and figure out that want list, such as i= t will be, as I have all of ComiCollector as well Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially turned= its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, then weekly= , all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine GB's ye Olde Fanzine Shoppe serves as a seminal spark jump-starting some of= the earliest aspects of what evolved into the Direct Market as Godrdon was= doing such long before Phil Seuling or Bud Plant got into the fanzine sell= ing business best bob Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=9F Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Bob, >=20 > If you reread my original post you will see the word "may" qualifying my = statement about GB's RB print run. I was hardly GB's closest friend but I d= id know him for 20 years, visited his home numerous times, went to conventi= ons & dinner & local social events with him. I was better friends with his = closest buddies though, people like Herman Taylor, Walter Irwin, Roy Bonari= o, Earl Blair. >=20 > The subject of RBCC came up from time to time, as you can imagine. Howeve= r, GB was never the most reliable source of information given his memory an= d his general lack of interest in things he was no longer involved in. When= I knew him he wasn't interested in fandom but rather vintage toys, old mov= ies, and anything to do with Christmas, Halloween & World War Two.=20 >=20 > (His lack of interest was born out at his estate sale: he had a single co= py of RB 1&2 & a few scattered later numbers but nothing else really to do = with RBCC, his other publications, or other fanzines, all of that sold off = years earlier. There were a few miscellaneous lots of art from RBCC -- I bo= ught one or two myself -- and a CC Beck recreation of a Mystery In Space co= ver ( I bought this also) but everything else was either old reading copies= of comics, material from the collecting fields I mentioned above or a ton = of this and that.) >=20 > At some point, when the subject of his publishing came up it was suggeste= d there may have been more than the initial 6 copies done; not neccessarily= 12 but some number from 6-12. I also recall that GB took the last copies (= the number 6 copy) with the faintest reproduction from the carbons & distri= buted the pages through out the print run so no one would get an entirely p= oor copy. >=20 > I can ask around if anyone recalls more precisely what he said but this i= s complicated by the passing of Herman, Walter & other close friends like M= arc Schooley. I've spoken to Roy recently & I know he doesn't remember anyt= hing about it. Make of the suggestion what you will. >=20 > BTW, GB's copies of 1 & 2 have changed hands & are now in the collection = of a local fan. He wanted to bid at the estate sale on them but deferred to= a mutual friend, who repaid the original kindness by giving him first shot= & at a reasonable price. >=20 > A >=20 > -------------- Original message from "BLBcomics.com" : --= ------------=20 >=20 >=20 > I got my first RBCC #45 back in 1966 in response to GB placing one of the= very first adverts in Marvel comics. My first advert inside RBCC was soon = thereafter in #47 which i remember appearing Oct 1966. Soon there after I l= aunched on a quest to obtain a complete set of RBCC which is technically co= mplete starting with #29 when ComiCollector was merged into Rocket's Blast.= Since then, I have been able to get down to almost all of them to #12 - ti= s the earlier issues which still eldude me. The only complete set i ever go= t to gotr thru belongs to Buddy Saunders, an initial subscriber from #1 >=20 > As far as I know, and remember discussing with a lot of "old timer" comic= s fans, as well as Gordon L himself, there was only six issues of #1 typed = out on carbon papers. This "second printing" of him retyping out #1 on a se= cond set of six carbon papers is news to me. Where does one get that info t= here were twelve #1 issues made up? >=20 > best > Robert Beerbohm >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Fri Feb 19 13:09:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17581 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2010 21:09:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2010 21:09:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2010 21:09:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2010 21:09:54 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2010 21:09:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:09:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <021720101838.10473.4B7C379B00021831000028E922228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 216.49.218.2 From: "thedocdor" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=TSJ0V_6VMzfw7uG2ZVTCS7FyWSy3libali3J17CHYj1vuUUGkDefM9Fw X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor I actually found him through his Flickr account as he had posted some great= photos of back in the day. I should give him this link to say hey. DOC --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Wasn't Alan Light a celebrity reporter for a long time? I wonder where h= e is today and what he is doing... >=20 > A > -------------- Original message from Jimvanhise@...: --------------=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20 > In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:00:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > beerbohmrl@... writes: >=20 > Once Alan Light came on the set with TBG, much of fandom essentially=20 > turned its back on GB Love, especially once Light took TBG bi-weekly, the= n=20 > weekly, all Jim Van H could do was turn RBCC into a feature fanzine >=20 > Interestingly, G.B. never saw Alan Light as a threat. He just figured it= =20 > would exist like other fanzines existed where some continued and some fol= ded.=20 > But Alan Light knew what he was doing, and to insure that no one could do= =20 > to him what he did to G.B., Alan refused to accept ads for anything he=20 > viewed as competition, like the Nostalgia Journal. When Gary Groth acquir= ed the=20 > Nostalgia Journal from the guys in Texas, Alan refused to accept his ads,= =20 > which is where the great feud between Alan and Gary Groth originated way= =20 > back in the 1970s. Gary ultimately turned The Nostalgia Journal into The= =20 > Comics Journal and stopped trying to make it an adzine. But he continued = to=20 > hate Alan Light for years and years and never missed a chance to take a s= hot=20 > at him in TCJ. If Alan hadn't essentially retired in the 1980s, Gary Grot= h=20 > would still be complaining about him but Alan is no longer on Fandom's=20 > radar.-- Jim Van Hise >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Jimvanhise@aol.com Fri Feb 19 13:21:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51346 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2010 21:21:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2010 21:21:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-mb02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.207.163) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2010 21:21:32 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1JLKtjK024295 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:20:55 -0500 X-Received: from Jimvanhise@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.ccb.6070bb31 (43984) for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:20:51 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from magic-d25.mail.aol.com (magic-d25.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.159]) by cia-dd05.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD051-abd04b7f00b23e0; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:20:50 -0500 Message-ID: <121ff.22a6f176.38b05ab2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:20:50 EST To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 76.83.200.196 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.159 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Originating-IP: 64.12.207.163 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan provided photos to the Shel Dorf tribute website as well as a memoir of the time he attended the Oscars with Shel as his guest in the late 1980s. I believe Alan may still work as an usher at the Oscars each year as he was always someone who was starstruck by Hollywood even more than many others are.-- James Van Hise [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 07 09:39:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75870 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 16:39:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2010 16:39:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost05.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.105) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 16:39:14 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail18.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.118]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20100407163508H0500ino8re>; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:35:08 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail18.isp.att.net; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:35:07 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:35:07 +0000 Message-Id: <040720101635.23762.4BBCB43B000B645700005CD222230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.105 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=-EDNRN2fPYeOekhwUdmht8lHMyFlgME86q8E1jcmF67Yb7MJsWRBvG-X X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Chris, Still wearing a string around your head! Not to pressure someone who is do= ing me a favor but really would like to get copy of the Capa Alpha cd! Best, A -------------- Original message from "chalwa10766" = : --------------=20 =20=20 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He s= aid he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jerry= I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 07 09:45:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62110 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 16:45:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2010 16:45:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost02.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.52) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 16:45:05 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail06.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.156]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100407164505H0200ksq7se>; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:45:05 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail06.isp.att.net; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:45:03 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:45:03 +0000 Message-Id: <040720101645.21254.4BBCB68F0006AC340000530622230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <040720101635.23762.4BBCB43B000B645700005CD222230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> References: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> <040720101635.23762.4BBCB43B000B645700005CD222230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.52 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=RP12qWS_8DZckPaDJFKb27klRkR9HKgmmvG3HTEU3rj1FXvXvaTu7e11 X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops! My apologies -- this was suppose to be a personal email not for the e= ntire group! A -------------- Original message from a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net: ----------= ----=20 =20=20 Hey Chris, Still wearing a string around your head! Not to pressure someone who is doi= ng me a favor but really would like to get copy of the Capa Alpha cd! Best, A -------------- Original message from "chalwa10766" = : --------------=20 Any chance of getting cover scans of those if things go well? I have a blog that is trying to give fanzines the respect they deserve by t= he world at large. I am currently doing an RBCC countdown and the scans I have of 1 and 2 are = not high quality. I actually need cover scans for: Rocket's Blast 4-15,17,22-24,26-27 RBCC 35 CC 1-7,9,12 A few years ago, Jerry Bails sent me a disc of complete K-a's to make cd co= pies for him. I have posted covers from those if anyone is interested. He s= aid he was sending them to friends, so if you got a disc of Ka's from Jerry= I probably made 'em. My blog is: http://chainlettersfordisturbedchildren.blogspot.com/ Please drop by and post if you can. Chris --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, Jimvanhise@... wrote: > >=20 > In a message dated 2/15/2010 12:11:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 > a.f.smith@... writes: >=20 > BTW, Jim, Do you have any recollection on the print run for RB #1? >=20 >=20 > No, I don't recall G.B. ever mentioning it. -- JVH >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Wed Apr 07 09:56:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94217 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 16:56:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2010 16:56:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost01.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.51) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 16:56:29 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail18.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.158]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20100407165306H0100t2irie>; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:53:06 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail18.isp.att.net; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:53:06 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:53:06 +0000 Message-Id: <040720101653.9286.4BBCB872000A71930000244622230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <040720101635.23762.4BBCB43B000B645700005CD222230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> References: <11544.49d35e67.38ab09bf@aol.com> <040720101635.23762.4BBCB43B000B645700005CD222230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.51 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=OfWnrakF8iSUwHr9KV4d75bymiY3WTW42bWNgC4TrlO3xvM32voR2Uoz X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I am here let me update the situation on Rocket's Blast #1 & #2. I recently viewed again, the copies out of GB Love's collection and I believe I can suggest, (pretty) definitely, how many copies were done. The copies that passed through my hands originating from GB's estate were typed, not carbon copies. Inside he listed by name all the subscribers, 6 for the first issue & 8 for the second. It is pretty clear that there were 6 carbon copies of the first issue PLUS GB's typed cover copy, for a total of SEVEN. On the second issue there were a total of 9. Below I've listed the original subscribers to RB: Issue One: Rick Weingroff, Rusty Clapsaddle, Buddy Saunders, Charles Donthitt, Jerry Snipes, Bernie Bubnis, Jr. Issue Two: The above six plus Edward Sheehy & Paul Seydor I'm surprised I am only familiar with 4 of the 8 fans. Wonder who the others were & where they are now? Anthony [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dlarm1951@aol.com Sun Apr 11 18:32:50 2010 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91518 invoked by uid 7800); 12 Apr 2010 01:32:48 -0000 X-Sender: dlarm1951@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 96362 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 01:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2010 01:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 01:30:41 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2010 01:30:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2010 01:29:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:29:57 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.154 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.166.184.3 From: "lionsroar2001us" Subject: Fanzine list X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64684929; y=lN4aNVOFnYPaigphaHelTtrd34-FOGmlcOlyZVlo9MnmN-QdAtG-CJpe X-Yahoo-Profile: lionsroar2001us X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 12 Apr 2010 01:32:48 -0000 Hi: Can Steve Ogden contact me offline? I have some info for his database. Thanks. From Burbank396@netscape.net Sat May 01 05:24:40 2010 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4972 invoked by uid 7800); 1 May 2010 12:24:37 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58738 invoked from network); 1 May 2010 06:57:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2010 06:57:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-db01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.91.95) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2010 06:57:34 -0000 X-Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o416vU2x013904 for ; Sat, 1 May 2010 02:57:30 -0400 X-Received: from burbank396@netscape.net by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.db0.6ecb6a4 (37069) for ; Sat, 1 May 2010 02:57:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.169]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB053-b2364bdbd0d1df; Sat, 01 May 2010 02:57:25 -0400 X-Received: from webmail-d038 (webmail-d038.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.87]) by smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE023-b2364bdbd0d1df; Sat, 01 May 2010 02:57:21 -0400 References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 02:57:20 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.158.221.203 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 31509-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.158.221.203 by webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.87) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 01 May 2010 02:57:20 -0400 Message-Id: <8CCB712AE06E4F5-E20-148A4@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: burbank396@netscape.net X-Originating-IP: 205.188.91.95 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=WsSeMfF_J27NNXo_BcPI5o1Pj7R46oIKTOkw2odCQ9CKKdh4zg X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 May 2010 12:24:37 -0000 I was tooling around the 4Shared search option and found scans of some early K-a Mailings, Alter-ego and Batmania Fanzines. Nice to see that these are not forgotten parts of our youth. FIAWOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Sat May 01 09:14:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20818 invoked from network); 1 May 2010 16:14:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2010 16:14:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost06.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.106) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2010 16:14:10 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail06.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.156]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20100501161410H0600nnsgoe>; Sat, 1 May 2010 16:14:10 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail06.isp.att.net; Sat, 01 May 2010 16:14:10 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 16:14:10 +0000 Message-Id: <050120101614.16508.4BDC5351000D23760000407C22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <8CCB712AE06E4F5-E20-148A4@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB712AE06E4F5-E20-148A4@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.106 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=BTvBHmmvYfk7MB1DANvyQVOhnYR7woadEsQEKsDGW4iCu38-StcJP4DH X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Morning Dean, I recognize your name from fandom past; what did you publish back then? Anthony -------------- Original message from Dean Sweatman : --------------=20 =20=20 I was tooling around the 4Shared search option and found scans of some earl= y K-a Mailings, Alter-ego and Batmania Fanzines. Nice to see that these are= not forgotten parts of our youth. FIAWOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Burbank396@netscape.net Sun May 02 04:57:52 2010 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39960 invoked by uid 7800); 2 May 2010 11:57:49 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72410 invoked from network); 2 May 2010 10:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2010 10:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.145) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2010 10:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o42APZfZ001778 for ; Sun, 2 May 2010 06:25:35 -0400 X-Received: from burbank396@netscape.net by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.dd4.502bb5c (55720) for ; Sun, 2 May 2010 06:25:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.1]) by cia-md02.mx.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD023-d1c54bdd53162b3; Sun, 02 May 2010 06:25:30 -0400 X-Received: from webmail-d037 (webmail-d037.sim.aol.com [205.188.181.88]) by smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC016-d1c54bdd53162b3; Sun, 02 May 2010 06:25:26 -0400 References: <8CCB712AE06E4F5-E20-148A4@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> <050120101614.16508.4BDC5351000D23760000407C22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 06:25:26 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.158.221.203 In-Reply-To: <050120101614.16508.4BDC5351000D23760000407C22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 31509-STANDARD X-Received: from 24.158.221.203 by webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.88) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 02 May 2010 06:25:26 -0400 Message-Id: <8CCB7F8EA85C45A-1DE0-421D@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: burbank396@netscape.net X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=4GwPvTWVYc-8yrwH2M-Jmt4RKzCUyEK226S9-Uj3cRFo_z3fZw X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 2 May 2010 11:57:49 -0000 "I recognize your name from fandom past; what did you publish back then?" for someone who didn't do much I have gotten that A Lot (grin). Mostly I was involved with Pre-Hydra Denton Texas Fandom before a move to New Orleans and involvement with The New Orleans SF Association. An ill-fated crash and burn in K-A and Myraid when I got accepted in those apas and my DRAFT notice at roughly the same time. Mainly I was just one of the shadows So did I send you many Sticky-Quarters? FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list Morning Dean, I recognize your name from fandom past; what did you publish back then? Anthony ------------- Original message from Dean Sweatman : ------------- was tooling around the 4Shared search option and found scans of some early K-a ailings, Alter-ego and Batmania Fanzines. Nice to see that these are not orgotten parts of our youth. FIAWOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Sun May 02 11:03:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70044 invoked from network); 2 May 2010 18:03:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2010 18:03:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost03.isp.att.net) (207.115.11.53) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2010 18:03:51 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail12.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.152]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20100502180331H0300jecise>; Sun, 2 May 2010 18:03:31 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail12.isp.att.net; Sun, 02 May 2010 18:03:31 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 18:03:31 +0000 Message-Id: <050220101803.640.4BDDBE7300021AF20000028022230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: <8CCB7F8EA85C45A-1DE0-421D@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCB712AE06E4F5-E20-148A4@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> <050120101614.16508.4BDC5351000D23760000407C22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> <8CCB7F8EA85C45A-1DE0-421D@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 207.115.11.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=4eTVtBxYqzMnGowJaY0DsTLhKqWtOuBhch5zngVi_BFSkt9GHtI9nKEg X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Taped change in half size envelopes ... I'd forgotten about that stage in M= an's evolution!=20=20 I must have known you when you joined KA. Anthony -------------- Original message from Dean Sweatman : --------------=20 =20=20 "I recognize your name from fandom past; what did you publish back then?" for someone who didn't do much I have gotten that A Lot (grin). Mostly I wa= s involved with Pre-Hydra Denton Texas Fandom before a move to New Orleans and involvement with The N= ew Orleans SF Association. An ill-fated crash and burn in K-A and Myraid wh= en I got accepted in those apas and my DRAFT notice at roughly the same tim= e. Mainly I was just one of the shadows So did I send you many Sticky-Quarters? FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 11:14 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fanzine list Morning Dean, I recognize your name from fandom past; what did you publish back then? Anthony ------------- Original message from Dean Sweatman = :=20 -------------=20 was tooling around the 4Shared search option and found scans of some early = K-a=20 ailings, Alter-ego and Batmania Fanzines. Nice to see that these are not=20 orgotten parts of our youth. FIAWOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_tt2@yahoo.com Sat May 08 10:09:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: tim_tt2@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52020 invoked from network); 8 May 2010 17:09:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 May 2010 17:09:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2010 17:09:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2010 17:05:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2010 17:05:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 17:05:27 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.246.205.157 From: "tim_tt2" Subject: The Last Temptation of Stan Kirby X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=84862528; y=ufioW1cfhlPwH9VSgNVqBqwKuhlYXiI-mtq_bwPRk6_-6A X-Yahoo-Profile: tim_tt2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Banned by The Tabliban! Condemned by The Vatican! Ignored by The Obama Administration! Sold out in Greenland! It's Stan Kirby's swan song! http://www.comicspace.com/tbt/comics.php?action=read&file_id=328427 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Doc0715@aol.com Sun May 09 13:31:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: Doc0715@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35530 invoked from network); 9 May 2010 20:31:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2010 20:31:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2010 20:31:40 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2010 20:29:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2010 20:29:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 20:29:33 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <021520101903.1981.4B799A7100069A3A000007BD22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 216.49.218.2 From: "thedocdor" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=130836093; y=D7KK9cK55tw5XpeWfPVugadj52ElM63zATeQtXNEsEtbspqCJXENLUQ- X-Yahoo-Profile: thedocdor Hi Anthony, Sorry for the delay in replying, Bill was there before me by a couple of ye= ars. Wish I had met him. Yeah I remember Glenn's store and Roy's (I was a c= ustomer)they were always fasinated on how much I knew about Golen Age chara= cters and comics as I was younger than them. I actually communicated with t= hem not too long ago about Houston Fandom and that great Captain America fa= n film they did with Earl. I have a video of it which I'd like to copy onto= DVD. Did you ever go to Larry Taylor's conventions in the late 80's early = 90's? DOC=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Hey Docdor, >=20 > See my earlier email -- yep, the copies did sell, though they only moved = a few miles in town. You are thinking of Glenn Kessler, longtime Superman = & Roy Rogers fanatic & former owner of Happy Trails comic shop. Glenn & Ro= y are still around & doing well. >=20 > Did you know Bill Pearson when you worked at Capitol City? >=20 > Best, > A >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Fri May 14 09:05:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40359 invoked from network); 14 May 2010 16:05:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2010 16:05:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO fmailhost03.isp.att.net) (204.127.217.103) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2010 16:05:21 -0000 X-Received: from fwebmail32.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.132]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20100514160520H0300jedl3e>; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:20 +0000 X-Received: from [76.31.198.133] by fwebmail32.isp.att.net; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:20 +0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:20 +0000 Message-Id: <051420101605.18420.4BED74C000068216000047F422193100029B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> In-Reply-To: References: <021520101903.1981.4B799A7100069A3A000007BD22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF089B07039CD200D20E@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YS5mLnNtaXRoQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 204.127.217.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: a.f.smith@att.net From: a.f.smith@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: [cbzines] Rocket's Blast ISSUES ONE & TWO!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12561738; y=HEu-dDo0XNaXBOk3xWJbUNT2bv1dDZzIN01QXZtR0ngpsqw7S9PK6Fmt X-Yahoo-Profile: smithworldorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You name it & if it is Houston related sure I was there! Been to Happy Tr= ails many times, and to Roy's Memory Shop under all its myriad names, and C= amelot (I worked there) when it was downtown and later off the Southwest Fw= y. I set up at a lot of the shows and attended most of them. Earl's Captain America serial is surprisingly well done. I believe he has i= t posted on You Tube now. A -------------- Original message from "thedocdor" : -------= -------=20 =20=20 Hi Anthony, Sorry for the delay in replying, Bill was there before me by a couple of ye= ars. Wish I had met him. Yeah I remember Glenn's store and Roy's (I was a c= ustomer)they were always fasinated on how much I knew about Golen Age chara= cters and comics as I was younger than them. I actually communicated with t= hem not too long ago about Houston Fandom and that great Captain America fa= n film they did with Earl. I have a video of it which I'd like to copy onto= DVD. Did you ever go to Larry Taylor's conventions in the late 80's early = 90's? DOC=20 --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, a.f.smith@... wrote: > > Hey Docdor, >=20 > See my earlier email -- yep, the copies did sell, though they only moved = a few miles in town. You are thinking of Glenn Kessler, longtime Superman &= Roy Rogers fanatic & former owner of Happy Trails comic shop. 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(Please note that because of so many downloads , all files are uploaded in = file sharings) =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Sat Feb 05 12:27:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79944 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2011 20:27:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2011 20:27:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.145) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2011 20:27:36 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p15KRRdi011347 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:27:27 -0500 X-Received: from core-dhe001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.209.193]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A0F5EE00008C for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:27:27 -0500 (EST) References: <001001cbc566$8a44eca0$9ecec5e0$@gsaservice.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 96.241.179.154 In-Reply-To: <001001cbc566$8a44eca0$9ecec5e0$@gsaservice.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33189-STANDARD X-Received: from 96.241.179.154 by webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.36) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:27:27 -0500 Message-Id: <8CD938A3D51F921-157C-102CD@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:27:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:494538624:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a4d4db2af65dc X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=Uf0jo_r22wqLQVfw-sIFp_jMGI4UMfb_o_X1S2EdQc-SKmQg X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there -= Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought my = tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day tickets= - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the s= how will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are con= sidering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to regist= er. Go to this link to register: http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registrati= on-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which it = is likely to say.=20 Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this link = if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#first= time If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, please = feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a few = vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp Qu= arter, or just sit down and talk. Bestest, Aaron Caplan fugtussey1@aol.com 703-731-8048 cell =20 -----Original Message----- From: billschelly Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE =20 Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! =20 This will probably be the last =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D about the plan for = a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International in San Diego this July= , where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=E2=80=99s Fiftieth Anniversa= ry.=20=20=20=20 =20 As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Comic= -Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 =20 The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internation= al 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con dat= es, registration and further info can be found at:=20 =20 http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php =20 The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to atten= d, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badge)= . If you=E2=80=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if you can=E2= =80=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossible) to decide you wan= t to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier writes about this at= : www.markevanier.com. =20 ABOUT THE REUNION=E2=80=A6. =20 Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thomas = (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic Art= ), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in a= ll likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 =20 In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place for= us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewhere = else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=E2=80=99= t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee turns its atte= ntion to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 =20 As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=E2=80=99ve wanted to go t= o Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who knows if the= re will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to get togeth= er! =20 -- Bill Schelly =20 P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fando= m (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the mo= st active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because it = had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2) t= he price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new re= search, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my othe= r books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few requests = for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you g= uys know about it. =20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Sat Feb 05 15:47:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67624 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2011 23:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2011 23:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.90.83) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2011 23:47:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2011 23:47:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.89.168] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2011 23:47:40 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2011 23:47:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 641719.46650.bm@omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 62824 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2011 23:47:40 -0000 Message-ID: <537780.62773.qm@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mNxRBTsVM1lF8ahkUaqbirbvfr1pG4cFZVPvedlxtrg48Uc rSZtVpCNA X-Received: from [99.181.225.183] by web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:47:40 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <001001cbc566$8a44eca0$9ecec5e0$@gsaservice.com> <8CD938A3D51F921-157C-102CD@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:47:40 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CD938A3D51F921-157C-102CD@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.90.83 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=GmY8O948KsJP0-gCN1T2DhfB1nWxycYyHjcaZSzfFTc5c9s X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Aaron, Thanks for the update. I'd love to attend the reunion and visit with old fa= ndom=20 friends - particularly the "Alley Tally Party" crew. Perhaps I'll get that= =20 opportunity. Take care. Keith Greene ________________________________ From: "fugtussey1@aol.com" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 3:27:27 PM Subject: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is O= PEN!=20 Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! =20=20 Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there -= =20 Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought my=20 tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day tickets= - I=20 had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the show w= ill=20 sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are considering= =20 attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to register. Go to= this=20 link to register: http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registrati= on-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which it is likely= to=20 say.=20 Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this link = if=20 you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#firsttim= e If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, please = feel=20 free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a few vinta= ge=20 fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp Quarter, o= r=20 just sit down and talk. Bestest, Aaron Caplan fugtussey1@aol.com 703-731-8048 cell -----Original Message----- From: billschelly Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! This will probably be the last =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D about the plan for = a FANDOM REUNION at=20 the 2011 Comic-Con International in San Diego this July, where one of the t= hemes=20 of the con is Fandom=E2=80=99s Fiftieth Anniversary.=20 As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Comic= -Con=20 web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internation= al=20 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con dates,= =20 registration and further info can be found at:=20 http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to atten= d,=20 you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badge). = If=20 you=E2=80=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if you can=E2=80=99t= go, but it will be=20 difficult (or even impossible) to decide you want to go after registrations= are=20 sold out. Mark Evanier writes about this at: www.markevanier.com. ABOUT THE REUNION=E2=80=A6. Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thomas= =20 (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic Art= ),=20 Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in all= =20 likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20 In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place for= us=20 to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewhere else= --=20 on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=E2=80=99t be mad= e until after=20 WonderCon in April, when the committee turns its attention to programming f= or=20 Comic-Con 2011.=20 As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=E2=80=99ve wanted to go t= o Comic-Con=20 for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who knows if there will ever= be=20 another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to get together! -- Bill Schelly P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fando= m=20 (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the most= =20 active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because it had= a=20 print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2) the pri= ce is=20 a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new research, so i= t's=20 not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my other books. Sorry = for=20 the commercial message, but I get quite a few requests for my past books th= at=20 are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you guys know about it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Sat Feb 05 17:44:08 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2716 invoked by uid 7800); 6 Feb 2011 01:44:08 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34733 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2011 01:19:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2011 01:19:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2011 01:19:01 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2011 01:19:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2011 01:19:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 01:19:00 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <537780.62773.qm@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.115.155.175 From: "joe" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524; y=GkCanYiJTkFFAUfNaqC8Ccp9eYvnQul0_78Y-sV011WvuWDpyoY X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 6 Feb 2011 01:44:08 -0000 --- In co ...What day is the Reubion , it seems this listing doesn't say ? I presume it's just one day ? Wjile I would like to go to all 4 , I have NO monay right now...It is pos= sible that money might materialize this next week , perhaps , if I am semi-= lucky , I could buy ( Trade/buy secondary market ? ) for the one day of the= Reunion ? micbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, "Robert K. Greene" wrote: > > Hi Aaron, >=20 > Thanks for the update. I'd love to attend the reunion and visit with old = fandom=20 > friends - particularly the "Alley Tally Party" crew. Perhaps I'll get tha= t=20 > opportunity. >=20 > Take care. >=20 > Keith Greene >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > From: "fugtussey1@..." > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 3:27:27 PM > Subject: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is= OPEN!=20 > Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! >=20 >=20=20=20 > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there= -=20 > Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought my= =20 > tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day ticke= ts - I=20 > had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the show= will=20 > sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are considerin= g=20 > attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to register. Go = to this=20 > link to register: >=20 > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registra= tion-2011/ > Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which it is like= ly to=20 > say.=20 >=20 >=20 > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this lin= k if=20 > you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#firstt= ime >=20 > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, pleas= e feel=20 > free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a few vin= tage=20 > fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp Quarter,= or=20 > just sit down and talk. >=20 > Bestest, >=20 > Aaron Caplan > fugtussey1@... > 703-731-8048 cell >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: billschelly > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE >=20 > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! >=20 > This will probably be the last =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D about the plan fo= r a FANDOM REUNION at=20 > the 2011 Comic-Con International in San Diego this July, where one of the= themes=20 > of the con is Fandom=E2=80=99s Fiftieth Anniversary.=20 >=20 >=20 > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Com= ic-Con=20 > web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 >=20 >=20 > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internati= onal=20 > 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con date= s,=20 > registration and further info can be found at:=20 >=20 >=20 > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php >=20 > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to att= end,=20 > you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badge).= If=20 > you=E2=80=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if you can=E2=80= =99t go, but it will be=20 > difficult (or even impossible) to decide you want to go after registratio= ns are=20 > sold out. Mark Evanier writes about this at: www.markevanier.com. >=20 > ABOUT THE REUNION=E2=80=A6. >=20 > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thoma= s=20 > (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic A= rt),=20 > Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in al= l=20 > likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20 >=20 >=20 > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place f= or us=20 > to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewhere el= se --=20 > on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=E2=80=99t be m= ade until after=20 > WonderCon in April, when the committee turns its attention to programming= for=20 > Comic-Con 2011.=20 >=20 >=20 > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=E2=80=99ve wanted to go= to Comic-Con=20 > for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who knows if there will ev= er be=20 > another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to get together! >=20 > -- Bill Schelly >=20 > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fan= dom=20 > (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the mo= st=20 > active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because it h= ad a=20 > print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2) the p= rice is=20 > a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new research, so= it's=20 > not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my other books. Sorr= y for=20 > the commercial message, but I get quite a few requests for my past books = that=20 > are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you guys know about it. >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Tue Feb 08 05:58:13 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 56632 invoked by uid 7800); 8 Feb 2011 13:58:08 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41939 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 03:57:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2011 03:57:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2011 03:57:32 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2011 03:57:31 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2011 03:57:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:57:30 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CD938A3D51F921-157C-102CD@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.151 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.5.64.207 From: "joe" Subject: Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524; y=aRxE8OeuYaHE-HBLV60LyszYt2phW0pQ6_Si708c069U_mnAr24 X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 8 Feb 2011 13:58:08 -0000 ...Okay , let me state this more fully , w/out my traditional little postin= g stylistic markers . Now that it's all sold out - What day will the reunion be ? Is it set yet= ? Does San Jose , ur , " allow " re-selling tickets , maybe they're strictl= y against that , tho I tend to associate that more with East Coast events o= f 40 years ago and " anti-scalping laws " more than the West Coast of to-da= y's regulatory climate =3D ? If they totally disallow re-sells , I'm fornicated , I guess , th'= $ didn't come in til' today......... --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@... wrote: > > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there= - Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought m= y tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day ticke= ts - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the= show will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are c= onsidering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to regi= ster. Go to this link to register: >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registra= tion-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which i= t is likely to say.=20 >=20 > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this lin= k if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#fir= sttime >=20 > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, pleas= e feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a fe= w vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp = Quarter, or just sit down and talk. >=20 > Bestest, >=20 > Aaron Caplan > fugtussey1@... > 703-731-8048 cell >=20=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: billschelly > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE >=20=20 > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! >=20=20 > This will probably be the last =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D about the plan fo= r a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International in San Diego this Ju= ly, where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=E2=80=99s Fiftieth Anniver= sary.=20=20=20=20 >=20=20 > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Com= ic-Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 >=20=20 > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internati= onal 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con d= ates, registration and further info can be found at:=20 >=20=20 > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php >=20=20 > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to att= end, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badg= e). If you=E2=80=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if you can= =E2=80=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossible) to decide you = want to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier writes about this= at: www.markevanier.com. >=20=20 > ABOUT THE REUNION=E2=80=A6. >=20=20 > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thoma= s (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic A= rt), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in= all likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 >=20=20 > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place f= or us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewher= e else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=E2=80= =99t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee turns its a= ttention to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 >=20=20 > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=E2=80=99ve wanted to go= to Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who knows if t= here will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to get toge= ther! >=20=20 > -- Bill Schelly >=20=20 > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fan= dom (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the = most active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because i= t had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2)= the price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new = research, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my ot= her books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few request= s for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you= guys know about it. >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Tue Feb 08 05:58:20 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39101 invoked by uid 7800); 8 Feb 2011 13:58:20 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22410 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 03:58:32 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CD938A3D51F921-157C-102CD@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.5.64.207 From: "joe" Subject: Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524; y=QYQWtB3MuG42BTux-AxpNY_nXknfvo7P5cDXB5pJCg35RBUIpDs X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 8 Feb 2011 13:58:20 -0000 ...I do have the money to spend right now , BTW , it did come in today . micbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@... wrote: > > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there= - Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought m= y tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day ticke= ts - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the= show will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are c= onsidering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to regi= ster. Go to this link to register: >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registra= tion-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which i= t is likely to say.=20 >=20 > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this lin= k if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#fir= sttime >=20 > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, pleas= e feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a fe= w vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp = Quarter, or just sit down and talk. >=20 > Bestest, >=20 > Aaron Caplan > fugtussey1@... > 703-731-8048 cell >=20=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: billschelly > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE >=20=20 > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! >=20=20 > This will probably be the last =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D about the plan fo= r a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International in San Diego this Ju= ly, where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=E2=80=99s Fiftieth Anniver= sary.=20=20=20=20 >=20=20 > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Com= ic-Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 >=20=20 > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internati= onal 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con d= ates, registration and further info can be found at:=20 >=20=20 > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php >=20=20 > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to att= end, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badg= e). If you=E2=80=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if you can= =E2=80=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossible) to decide you = want to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier writes about this= at: www.markevanier.com. >=20=20 > ABOUT THE REUNION=E2=80=A6. >=20=20 > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thoma= s (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic A= rt), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in= all likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 >=20=20 > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place f= or us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewher= e else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=E2=80= =99t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee turns its a= ttention to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 >=20=20 > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=E2=80=99ve wanted to go= to Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who knows if t= here will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to get toge= ther! >=20=20 > -- Bill Schelly >=20=20 > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fan= dom (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the = most active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because i= t had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2)= the price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new = research, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my ot= her books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few request= s for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you= guys know about it. >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Feb 08 22:20:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93097 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2011 06:20:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2011 06:20:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.146) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2011 06:20:39 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p196KY6W028769 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:20:34 -0500 X-Received: from core-dhb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.208.195]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A6B10E000086; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0500 (EST) References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 66.182.58.106 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33189-STANDARD X-Received: from 66.182.58.106 by Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com (205.188.108.129) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 09 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0500 Message-Id: <8CD9638972E77AF-1A14-6E4B@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:20:33 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:495712288:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 12 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c74d52323135b9 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.146 From: fugtussey1@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=qxN1970RRpWfdyA5jwDP3H8sMOj1BRHHQAB2u1B68u4XK7hv X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe, Bill Schelly emailed me and said that he was told by the Comic-Con folks th= at he had to wait to talk about arrangements for an on site reunion until a= fter WonderCon in April. That's when the Comic-Con programming guru's start= to work on the July program schedule and content. So unfortunately, we wil= l not know the actual date of the Reunion until April/May at the earliest. Concerning the instant sell-out of the Con, there are still a few options: - You can register as a Professional. If you have credentials as a fanzine = editor, or have been actively writing for various comic/movie fanzines/maga= zines/publications, or have created a comic-oriented blog/web-page, then yo= u might qualify as a professional. Remember that this year, one of themes i= s "The 50th Anniversary of Comic Fandom" so those of you who were really ac= tive during the golden age of fandom have a good chance to be admitted as a= Pro. I know of at least 3 fanzine editor/publishers from the 60/70's who h= ave already been registered as Pro's and there are at least 5 more going th= is route as I type this. Here are some links: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/= cci_pros.php or you can contact Heather Lampron at proreg@comic-con.org - s= he is responsible for Professional Registration. Do not discuss the Fandom = Reunion, because Heather will not know what you are talking about since it = is not officially scheduled yet.=20 - You can register as a member of the Press. If you have an internet blog, = or write for an internet e-zine, you can register as a journalist and gain = entry via a press pass. If you are really web savvy, why not create your ow= n Comic Blog web page? A bit sneaky, but you might be registered! Contact p= ressreg@comic-con.org or go to http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_p= ress.php. - Hook up with an Exhibitor. Depending on the size of an exhibitors booth, = they are allotted quite a few free Registration passes for booth workers. S= o if you know a Comics Dealer that will be exhibiting at the show, you can = offer to work the booth, or even offer to buy an Exhibitor Registration.=20 - You can buy a ticket via scalpers on ebay, craigslist or some other sourc= e. During the past 2 years, this has been an acceptable, albeit expensive, = way to obtain tickets. The scalper simply would buy extra tickets, obtain t= he badges at the Con, and meet a buyer outside to provide the badge. This y= ear, it is much more difficult to buy secondary tickets because Comic-Con o= fficials are cracking down on gray market sales - they require you to provi= de a photo ID with a name that matches the registration confirmation letter= to pick up a ComicCon badge, for every person registered! So the scalper r= oute is an extremely risky move. I wouldn't bank on it. - Wait for tickets to be returned. There is a very remote chance that more = tickets will become available as the Summer gets closer. People who bought = multiple tickets in a frenzy may find that they can't attend and Comic-Con = has made pretty simple to get a refund, so expect a few thousand tickets to= become available as the the date looms closer. Again, this is a long shot = that I would not bank on. Good luck people! Aaron Caplan =20=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: joe To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:58 am Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration = is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 ...Okay , let me state this more fully , w/out my traditional little postin= g stylistic markers . Now that it's all sold out - What day will the reunion be ? Is it set yet= ? Does San Jose , ur , " allow " re-selling tickets , maybe they're strictl= y against that , tho I tend to associate that more with East Coast events o= f 40 years ago and " anti-scalping laws " more than the West Coast of to-da= y's regulatory climate =3D ? If they totally disallow re-sells , I'm fornicated , I guess , th'= $ didn't come in til' today......... --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@... wrote: > > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out there= - Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought m= y tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day ticke= ts - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe the= show will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are c= onsidering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to regi= ster. Go to this link to register: >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-registra= tion-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which i= t is likely to say.=20 >=20 > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this lin= k if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#fir= sttime >=20 > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, pleas= e feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a fe= w vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslamp = Quarter, or just sit down and talk. >=20 > Bestest, >=20 > Aaron Caplan > fugtussey1@... > 703-731-8048 cell >=20=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: billschelly > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE >=20=20 > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! >=20=20 > This will probably be the last =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=9Cupdate=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=9D= about the plan for a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International in= San Diego this July, where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=C3=A2=C2= =80=C2=99s Fiftieth Anniversary.=20=20=20=20 >=20=20 > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the Com= ic-Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 >=20=20 > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Internati= onal 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con d= ates, registration and further info can be found at:=20 >=20=20 > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php >=20=20 > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to att= end, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional badg= e). If you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded if = you can=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossible= ) to decide you want to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier w= rites about this at: www.markevanier.com. >=20=20 > ABOUT THE REUNION=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=A6. >=20=20 > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Thoma= s (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic A= rt), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, in= all likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 >=20=20 > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place f= or us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewher= e else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=C3=A2= =C2=80=C2=99t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee tu= rns its attention to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 >=20=20 > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve wan= ted to go to Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who k= nows if there will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s to= get together! >=20=20 > -- Bill Schelly >=20=20 > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic Fan= dom (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of the = most active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because i= t had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and 2)= the price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of new = research, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my ot= her books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few request= s for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure you= guys know about it. >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Wed Feb 09 19:01:01 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16524 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Feb 2011 03:00:56 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18299 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2011 02:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2011 02:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2011 02:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2011 02:21:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2011 02:21:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:21:45 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CD9638972E77AF-1A14-6E4B@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.115.155.175 From: "joe" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524; y=mNXCVeVWoWSwNiGxKTUnU-7NHcVfIQwrMgV5n2yRDKfx0OXFOpY X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 10 Feb 2011 03:00:56 -0000 --- In co ...Well , thank you , I'll keep that in mind . I do have a blog , etc. , so.........? micbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@... wrote: > > Hi Joe, >=20 > Bill Schelly emailed me and said that he was told by the Comic-Con folks = that he had to wait to talk about arrangements for an on site reunion until= after WonderCon in April. That's when the Comic-Con programming guru's sta= rt to work on the July program schedule and content. So unfortunately, we w= ill not know the actual date of the Reunion until April/May at the earliest= . >=20 > Concerning the instant sell-out of the Con, there are still a few options= : >=20 > - You can register as a Professional. If you have credentials as a fanzin= e editor, or have been actively writing for various comic/movie fanzines/ma= gazines/publications, or have created a comic-oriented blog/web-page, then = you might qualify as a professional. Remember that this year, one of themes= is "The 50th Anniversary of Comic Fandom" so those of you who were really = active during the golden age of fandom have a good chance to be admitted as= a Pro. I know of at least 3 fanzine editor/publishers from the 60/70's who= have already been registered as Pro's and there are at least 5 more going = this route as I type this. Here are some links: http://www.comic-con.org/cc= i/cci_pros.php or you can contact Heather Lampron at proreg@... - she is re= sponsible for Professional Registration. Do not discuss the Fandom Reunion,= because Heather will not know what you are talking about since it is not o= fficially scheduled yet.=20 >=20 > - You can register as a member of the Press. If you have an internet blog= , or write for an internet e-zine, you can register as a journalist and gai= n entry via a press pass. If you are really web savvy, why not create your = own Comic Blog web page? A bit sneaky, but you might be registered! Contact= pressreg@... or go to http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_press.php= . >=20 > - Hook up with an Exhibitor. Depending on the size of an exhibitors booth= , they are allotted quite a few free Registration passes for booth workers.= So if you know a Comics Dealer that will be exhibiting at the show, you ca= n offer to work the booth, or even offer to buy an Exhibitor Registration.= =20 >=20 > - You can buy a ticket via scalpers on ebay, craigslist or some other sou= rce. During the past 2 years, this has been an acceptable, albeit expensive= , way to obtain tickets. The scalper simply would buy extra tickets, obtain= the badges at the Con, and meet a buyer outside to provide the badge. This= year, it is much more difficult to buy secondary tickets because Comic-Con= officials are cracking down on gray market sales - they require you to pro= vide a photo ID with a name that matches the registration confirmation lett= er to pick up a ComicCon badge, for every person registered! So the scalper= route is an extremely risky move. I wouldn't bank on it. >=20 > - Wait for tickets to be returned. There is a very remote chance that mor= e tickets will become available as the Summer gets closer. People who bough= t multiple tickets in a frenzy may find that they can't attend and Comic-Co= n has made pretty simple to get a refund, so expect a few thousand tickets = to become available as the the date looms closer. Again, this is a long sho= t that I would not bank on. >=20 > Good luck people! >=20 > Aaron Caplan >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: joe > To: comicbookfanzines > Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:58 am > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registratio= n is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > ...Okay , let me state this more fully , w/out my traditional little post= ing stylistic markers . > Now that it's all sold out - What day will the reunion be ? Is it set y= et ? > Does San Jose , ur , " allow " re-selling tickets , maybe they're stric= tly against that , tho I tend to associate that more with East Coast events= of 40 years ago and " anti-scalping laws " more than the West Coast of to-= day's regulatory climate =3D ? > If they totally disallow re-sells , I'm fornicated , I guess , t= h' $ didn't come in til' today......... >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@ wrote: > > > > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out the= re - Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought= my tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day tic= kets - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe t= he show will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are= considering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to re= gister. Go to this link to register: > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-regist= ration-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which= it is likely to say.=20 > >=20 > > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this l= ink if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#f= irsttime > >=20 > > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, ple= ase feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a = few vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslam= p Quarter, or just sit down and talk. > >=20 > > Bestest, > >=20 > > Aaron Caplan > > fugtussey1@ > > 703-731-8048 cell > >=20=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: billschelly > > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE > >=20=20 > > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! > >=20=20 > > This will probably be the last =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=9Cupdate=C3=A2=C2=80=C2= =9D about the plan for a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International= in San Diego this July, where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=C3=A2= =C2=80=C2=99s Fiftieth Anniversary.=20=20=20=20 > >=20=20 > > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the C= omic-Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 > >=20=20 > > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Interna= tional 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con= dates, registration and further info can be found at:=20 > >=20=20 > > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php > >=20=20 > > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to a= ttend, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional ba= dge). If you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded i= f you can=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossib= le) to decide you want to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier= writes about this at: www.markevanier.com. > >=20=20 > > ABOUT THE REUNION=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=A6. > >=20=20 > > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Tho= mas (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic= Art), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, = in all likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 > >=20=20 > > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place= for us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewh= ere else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=C3= =A2=C2=80=C2=99t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee= turns its attention to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 > >=20=20 > > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve w= anted to go to Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who= knows if there will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s = to get together! > >=20=20 > > -- Bill Schelly > >=20=20 > > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic F= andom (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of th= e most active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because= it had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and = 2) the price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of ne= w research, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my = other books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few reque= sts for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure y= ou guys know about it. > >=20=20 > >=20 > >=20=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From joegouldiii@yahoo.com Wed Mar 09 19:21:08 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 42493 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Mar 2011 03:21:08 -0000 X-Sender: joegouldiii@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84814 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 03:09:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2011 03:09:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 03:09:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 03:09:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 03:09:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:09:40 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CD9638972E77AF-1A14-6E4B@Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 98.137.34.68 From: "joe" Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=89695524; y=2cHWMIHpvux7bwDNdPNCXpF7HziXr47LmHDP8zCtMVXTFPL_SNs X-Yahoo-Profile: joegouldiii X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 10 Mar 2011 03:21:08 -0000 --- In co ...Again , thank you , you appear 2B saying that a legit buying of a single= day on the secondary market isn't really possible , while I could - um , "= push " the supposed size of my actual " Level Of Big_Fannishness " a bit a= nd get a scarce ticket cheaper - I was alive in the 60s but I was s= ingle-digit in age throughout the golden Age Of Fandom !!!!!!!!! I ' just never quite " got a fanzine out - ever , all though the y= ears from the 70s on . I do blog , these days mostly at Captain Comics , as well as post/ask que= stions " less formally "... The COMIC-CON annual magazine made its appearance up here in SF to-day , = actually appearing in Market Street newspaper-dispensing machines !!!!!!!!!= ( Probably not " legit "-ly/approved - Since the " decline of print " said= machines have a lot of empty space once occupied by paper publications tha= t have , since , discontinued all publication/all or much paper publication= /stopped or strogly curtailed their distribution to SF...Say the Onion , or= the East Bay Express...Anyway , I picked it up , it mentions Wondercon, to= o ( which I went to last year ) , but , it does not appear to mention the "= indie "-oriented APE , which C-C also owns and continues to put on here ev= ery later part of each year......... micbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@... wrote: > > Hi Joe, >=20 > Bill Schelly emailed me and said that he was told by the Comic-Con folks = that he had to wait to talk about arrangements for an on site reunion until= after WonderCon in April. That's when the Comic-Con programming guru's sta= rt to work on the July program schedule and content. So unfortunately, we w= ill not know the actual date of the Reunion until April/May at the earliest= . >=20 > Concerning the instant sell-out of the Con, there are still a few options= : >=20 > - You can register as a Professional. If you have credentials as a fanzin= e editor, or have been actively writing for various comic/movie fanzines/ma= gazines/publications, or have created a comic-oriented blog/web-page, then = you might qualify as a professional. Remember that this year, one of themes= is "The 50th Anniversary of Comic Fandom" so those of you who were really = active during the golden age of fandom have a good chance to be admitted as= a Pro. I know of at least 3 fanzine editor/publishers from the 60/70's who= have already been registered as Pro's and there are at least 5 more going = this route as I type this. Here are some links: http://www.comic-con.org/cc= i/cci_pros.php or you can contact Heather Lampron at proreg@... - she is re= sponsible for Professional Registration. Do not discuss the Fandom Reunion,= because Heather will not know what you are talking about since it is not o= fficially scheduled yet.=20 >=20 > - You can register as a member of the Press. If you have an internet blog= , or write for an internet e-zine, you can register as a journalist and gai= n entry via a press pass. If you are really web savvy, why not create your = own Comic Blog web page? A bit sneaky, but you might be registered! Contact= pressreg@... or go to http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_press.php= . >=20 > - Hook up with an Exhibitor. Depending on the size of an exhibitors booth= , they are allotted quite a few free Registration passes for booth workers.= So if you know a Comics Dealer that will be exhibiting at the show, you ca= n offer to work the booth, or even offer to buy an Exhibitor Registration.= =20 >=20 > - You can buy a ticket via scalpers on ebay, craigslist or some other sou= rce. During the past 2 years, this has been an acceptable, albeit expensive= , way to obtain tickets. The scalper simply would buy extra tickets, obtain= the badges at the Con, and meet a buyer outside to provide the badge. This= year, it is much more difficult to buy secondary tickets because Comic-Con= officials are cracking down on gray market sales - they require you to pro= vide a photo ID with a name that matches the registration confirmation lett= er to pick up a ComicCon badge, for every person registered! So the scalper= route is an extremely risky move. I wouldn't bank on it. >=20 > - Wait for tickets to be returned. There is a very remote chance that mor= e tickets will become available as the Summer gets closer. People who bough= t multiple tickets in a frenzy may find that they can't attend and Comic-Co= n has made pretty simple to get a refund, so expect a few thousand tickets = to become available as the the date looms closer. Again, this is a long sho= t that I would not bank on. >=20 > Good luck people! >=20 > Aaron Caplan >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: joe > To: comicbookfanzines > Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:58 am > Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registratio= n is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > ...Okay , let me state this more fully , w/out my traditional little post= ing stylistic markers . > Now that it's all sold out - What day will the reunion be ? Is it set y= et ? > Does San Jose , ur , " allow " re-selling tickets , maybe they're stric= tly against that , tho I tend to associate that more with East Coast events= of 40 years ago and " anti-scalping laws " more than the West Coast of to-= day's regulatory climate =3D ? > If they totally disallow re-sells , I'm fornicated , I guess , t= h' $ didn't come in til' today......... >=20 > --- In comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, fugtussey1@ wrote: > > > > Just a note to all you fandom old timers and fanzine collectors out the= re - Comic-Con 2011 Registration just opened a few hours ago. I just bought= my tickets for all four days and already they are already out of 4-day tic= kets - I had to buy separate tickets for each of the four days. I believe t= he show will sell out very quickly, within the next 24 hours. So if you are= considering attending Bill Schelly's Fandom Reunion, the time is now to re= gister. Go to this link to register: > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > http://comic-con.ticketleap.com/comic-con-international-attendee-regist= ration-2011/ Keep trying if it says "We are currently over capacity" which= it is likely to say.=20 > >=20 > > Many of you may be eligible to register as a Professional so try this l= ink if you think you may apply: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php#f= irsttime > >=20 > > If any of you do manage to register and plan to attend the reunion, ple= ase feel free to drop me a line or call my cell phone. Maybe we can swap a = few vintage fanzines, down a few beers in the beautiful (and nearby) Gaslam= p Quarter, or just sit down and talk. > >=20 > > Bestest, > >=20 > > Aaron Caplan > > fugtussey1@ > > 703-731-8048 cell > >=20=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: billschelly > > Subject: Fandom Reunion 2011 update > > 2011 FANDOM REUNION UPDATE > >=20=20 > > Hello, Members of Comicdom from Way-Back! > >=20=20 > > This will probably be the last =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=9Cupdate=C3=A2=C2=80=C2= =9D about the plan for a FANDOM REUNION at the 2011 Comic-Con International= in San Diego this July, where one of the themes of the con is Fandom=C3=A2= =C2=80=C2=99s Fiftieth Anniversary.=20=20=20=20 > >=20=20 > > As you may know, registration has been delayed due to glitches on the C= omic-Con web site. (All registrations have to be obtained on-line.)=20 > >=20=20 > > The word just came out that attendee registration for Comic-Con Interna= tional 2011 will open at 9 AM Pacific Time on Saturday, February 5. Con= dates, registration and further info can be found at:=20 > >=20=20 > > http://comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.php > >=20=20 > > The con will sell out quickly, like in a few days. So if you want to a= ttend, you will have to sign up now (unless you qualify for Professional ba= dge). If you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99re unsure, you can get your money refunded i= f you can=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t go, but it will be difficult (or even impossib= le) to decide you want to go after registrations are sold out. Mark Evanier= writes about this at: www.markevanier.com. > >=20=20 > > ABOUT THE REUNION=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=A6. > >=20=20 > > Special guests of the con who will appear on a Fandom Panel are Roy Tho= mas (Alter Ego), Richard Kyle (Graphic Story World), Maggie Thompson (Comic= Art), Richard & Patricia Lupoff (Xero) and (ahem) Bill Schelly. It will, = in all likelihood, be moderated by Mark Evanier.=20=20 > >=20=20 > > In addition to the panel itself, I will be looking for a time and place= for us to gather and socialize, either in the Convention Center, or somewh= ere else -- on Thursday, Friday or Saturday. However, arrangements can=C3= =A2=C2=80=C2=99t be made until after WonderCon in April, when the committee= turns its attention to programming for Comic-Con 2011.=20 > >=20=20 > > As I said in my first email some time ago, if you=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve w= anted to go to Comic-Con for awhile, this would be a great year to go. Who= knows if there will ever be another occasion for comics fans of the 1960s = to get together! > >=20=20 > > -- Bill Schelly > >=20=20 > > P.S. For those who may not know, my latest book is Founders of Comic F= andom (McFarland 2009) which contains 90 extended biographies of some of th= e most active fans from fandom of the 1960s (and even the 1950s). Because= it had a print run of less than 1000 copies, 1) it may sell out soon, and = 2) the price is a little on the high side ($40). However, I did lots of ne= w research, so it's not just a rehash of stuff that already appeared in my = other books. Sorry for the commercial message, but I get quite a few reque= sts for my past books that are no longer in print, so I want to make sure y= ou guys know about it. > >=20=20 > >=20 > >=20=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From beerbohmrl@gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:36:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: beerbohmrl@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11163 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2011 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 16:36:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 16:36:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 16:36:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:02 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.154 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.196.85.46 From: "BLBcomics.com" Subject: Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=393247570; y=t7pUvAHvoYhozN44K9fwqqz_iPAVZgOBxDlO1L6ITXE4n-W_ X-Yahoo-Profile: blbcomics The REAL comics fandom reunion I urge every one reading this will occur mid= November in Oklahoma City put on by Bart Bush, Robert Brown as an official= function of OAF Oklahoma Alliance of Fandom of which I have been a proud m= ember since Dallascon 1968. For a few years their OAF zine was one of the s= eminal centers of fandom - once TBG went weekly, Alan Light pretty much ble= w all the other "competition" out of the water when he took The Buyer's Gui= de weekly. My first full page ads in TBG were in #3, then #4, then #7, then= steady contracts http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Oaf-Oklahoma-Alliance-of-Fans/1427= 49562421173 San Diego Comicon is like an impacted wisdom tooth any more to get around a= nd survive even though if one took out all the other stuff going on, it is = still the largest comicon in America, eclipsed only by Angouleme in France = which I have been to half a dozen times now. Just about every one I know who were inside "organized" comics fandom in th= e 1960s coming into the 70s will be in Oklahoma City in mid November This is like the 4th of 5th one they have done. No problem getting in, hote= ls and motels will not be the $350 to $450 gouge going on the week of SD Co= micon for starters. for more info email Bart Bush at bbush3@cox.net Robert Brown at greenleader@cox.net Don Maris bigdplus2003@yahoo.com=20 Don used to host the Big D nostalgia shows in Dallas till ill health for a = while forced a hiatus. He would not allow post 1980 material at his shows, = those were really fun shows. Was just talking with long time friend Bud Plant yesterday who is definitel= y coming to OAFcon in November. So are a lot of other old time friends from= the fanzine days. I know you would have fun at this event thru are holding= every other year. My two cents best Robert Beerbohm first RBCC was #45 in early summer 1966, first ad therein #47 Oct 1966 -- since 1966 -- Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com 402 459 1709 cel http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.facebook.com/BLBcomicscom#!/pages/BLBcomicscom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=9F Longtime Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Co-Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics From greene68@yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 14:03:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63983 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.90.34) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.89.194] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 275097.62572.bm@omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 23822 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2011 22:03:54 -0000 Message-ID: <184766.97380.qm@web121715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ellzlYYVM1kTAYM0ajZIa7Nz77vUG5n60jyzNcjEq7rBZGe nhm1J3NroN0pZtd.LJB4pJ4LQGZOewNQ4LhSB5xvf1ebuRvbNF5qDsR1GnF8 bHCJcWt._F9cg6GE4UddZ234cKrijzH1MmAZL1UbIG_dEzqfjiSfbCVx3BrR V6Sz2fGvTLe.Kn7dl4vWBdTLtk2CBz19YWLtzA7TMmHb5gk7B42X0pns2lO6 ttWfPe4RNj8jXrwUzyFBAahK1rGxOfdbTicCJLgUKsnxquaw6tBqIyp4DVTQ WTSgSGgsaMBFfzzD5.9gGmNZemIZU03OZ7.CIw.RsMM7xPOoNEnkHIwnmkOs 5gmkprYAqENQ- X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:53 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:53 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.90.34 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration is OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=--jrrLzgkdqjKf5GJhsA0Cphx-E5xJd2AHl4HCqhA5cKb3Q X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info, Mr. Beerbohm! Keith Greene ________________________________ From: BLBcomics.com To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:36:02 AM Subject: [cbzines] Re: Fandom Reunion Update - Comic-Con 2011 Registration = is=20 OPEN! Register NOW! Tomorrow is too late! =20=20 The REAL comics fandom reunion I urge every one reading this will occur mid= =20 November in Oklahoma City put on by Bart Bush, Robert Brown as an official= =20 function of OAF Oklahoma Alliance of Fandom of which I have been a proud me= mber=20 since Dallascon 1968. For a few years their OAF zine was one of the seminal= =20 centers of fandom - once TBG went weekly, Alan Light pretty much blew all t= he=20 other "competition" out of the water when he took The Buyer's Guide weekly.= My=20 first full page ads in TBG were in #3, then #4, then #7, then steady contra= cts http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Oaf-Oklahoma-Alliance-of-Fans/1427= 49562421173 San Diego Comicon is like an impacted wisdom tooth any more to get around a= nd=20 survive even though if one took out all the other stuff going on, it is sti= ll=20 the largest comicon in America, eclipsed only by Angouleme in France which = I=20 have been to half a dozen times now. Just about every one I know who were inside "organized" comics fandom in th= e=20 1960s coming into the 70s will be in Oklahoma City in mid November This is like the 4th of 5th one they have done. No problem getting in, hote= ls=20 and motels will not be the $350 to $450 gouge going on the week of SD Comic= on=20 for starters. for more info email Bart Bush at bbush3@cox.net Robert Brown at greenleader@cox.net Don Maris bigdplus2003@yahoo.com=20 Don used to host the Big D nostalgia shows in Dallas till ill health for a = while=20 forced a hiatus. He would not allow post 1980 material at his shows, those = were=20 really fun shows. Was just talking with long time friend Bud Plant yesterday who is definitel= y=20 coming to OAFcon in November. So are a lot of other old time friends from t= he=20 fanzine days. I know you would have fun at this event thru are holding ever= y=20 other year. My two cents best Robert Beerbohm first RBCC was #45 in early summer 1966, first ad therein #47 Oct 1966 -- since 1966 -- Robert Beerbohm Comic Art PO Box 507 Fremont NE 68026 www.BLBcomics.com 402 459 1709 cel http://stores.shop.ebay.com/BLB-COMICS http://www.facebook.com/robert.beerbohm http://www.facebook.com/BLBcomicscom#!/pages/BLBcomicscom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjYyttEu_NLU&feature=3Drelate=C3=83=C5=B8 Longtime Member: Grand Comics Database : www.comics.org Co-Moderator: www.yahoogroups.com/subscribe/PlatinumAgeComics =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Fri Mar 11 02:39:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30709 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2011 10:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2011 10:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.205.137) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2011 10:39:45 -0000 X-Received: from storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 083135C0B4 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:39:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net (8.11.7+Sun/mt.gso.26Feb98) id p2BAdhp02695; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:39:43 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQyOrduC8oKbTGv3Z1bFfo4LGTK3QIVALWJJXn3FGzPFjdOrJGsNMdAs7J/ Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:39:43 -0500 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <17360-4D79FBEF-10963@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com's message of 10 Mar 2011 13:25:03 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Originating-IP: 209.240.205.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns) From: jameshburns@webtv.net Subject: Paul Rubin--Collectibles Dealer, and Puppeteer--R.I.P. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 A couple of years ago, I meant to write about the passings of Mike Woodin and Ray Pence, two of the original crew at Jerry Ohlinger's Movie Material store, that great photo and poster and occasionally book store, that has existed in New York City, for roughly thirty-five years. I knew it would be necessary to explain the importance of that store--and such other places as the once-long-ago Cinemabilia, and others--in days gone past. Because before the internet, Jerry's, and places like it, were the ONLY place you could go, to get film, TV and theatre stuff. Jerry Ohlinger's, for years on West 4th Street, just up the block from NYU and since, in a couple of locations, could be jammed with folks poring through volumes of photos (stills we called them, and often, still do). In fact, for years, Jerry was a go-to source for many of the network news and local entertainment shows that would suddenly a classic shot of a performer. And then there were the guys who helped supply the movie, theatre and other collectables dealers. I must have met Paul Rubin in the mid-80s, although we had probably been around each other, before that. Paul would show up at some of the movie and comics shows, with various goodies to sell, lobby cards, ephemera... Small of frame, skinny, close cropped hair, beard or moustahce, with a raspy voice... Paul could seem like a character, but in my experience, was almost always pleasant, and filled with cheer. I knew he had hung around Hollywood in the late '60s, but kind of rolled my eyes when he said he used to hang out with Larry Fine of the 3 Stooges. (I mean, why would Larry be having a coffee or a beer with a 20-year old?) But when I found out that Larry, in fact, by the late '60s, did often spend his afternoons simply going out with friends, or fans who would soon become friends... I've meant for over ten years to call Paul up, and get his memories of Fine on the record. Now, that's a fun bit of pop history that's lost. (Which is yet another reminder not to procrastinate anything.) Paul passed away at the end of last December, and many of us who knew him only as an acquaintance are only finding out now. When I went to Google Paul, to see if there were any details about his life that I could include in the mentioning of him I planned to write-- There was a shock. Because it turned out for much of the second half of the 1960s, Paul was a PUPPETEER, hanging out at the legendary New York kids TV show hosted by Chuck McCann (and occasionally geting to operate those marvelous Paul Ashley puppets), appearing on THE JOE FRANKLIN SHOW, and putting together a stage act that performed all over New York City, and its boroughs. It's entirely possible, in the way such kids shows would be booked (then and now, come to think of it), that there are folks now in their forties walking around town, whose first encounter with a play of any kind--a live performance--was a play starring Paul and his characters. The memory of those shows is linked below. It's even more stunning to me, personally, because it's written by a puppeteer I've known for ten years. There was never any reason for it to come up that we BOTH knew Paul, our first introductions seperated by a couple of decades. I don't know what happened to Paul's performance aspirations. But the lovely tribute written by his longtime friend is also a reminder never to take anyone for granted, and that the most unexpected people can have the most extraordinary pasts. It's also a lovely glimpse into a past that just no longer exists, that world also populated by Sandy Becker, and Carol Corbett, back when all so many of us, were but wee... Jim Burns http://flexitoon.blogspot.com/2010/12/paul-rubin-rip.html From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Mar 11 08:05:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18964 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2011 16:05:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2011 16:05:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm15-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.90.254) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2011 16:05:02 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2011 16:05:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.89.233] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2011 16:04:48 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2011 16:04:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 268512.31857.bm@omp1048.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 48171 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2011 16:04:48 -0000 Message-ID: <172149.43055.qm@web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oBpwjY8VM1nvDfQfDY6RjdKRxzmSrnVM.nvP2AN_my5W6T3 0ycy26jPP X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:04:47 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <17360-4D79FBEF-10963@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:04:47 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <17360-4D79FBEF-10963@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.90.254 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Paul Rubin--Collectibles Dealer, and Puppeteer--R.I.P. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=Qz7jXJJ0LpIBV5JgteYLY-xxu0WoQfUYiSNHsQAxSWKtpGE X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing, from a classic film enthusiast. Keith Greene ________________________________ From: "jameshburns@webtv.net" To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 5:39:43 AM Subject: [cbzines] Paul Rubin--Collectibles Dealer, and Puppeteer--R.I.P. =20=20 A couple of years ago, I meant to write about the passings of Mike Woodin and Ray Pence, two of the original crew at Jerry Ohlinger's Movie Material store, that great photo and poster and occasionally book store, that has existed in New York City, for roughly thirty-five years. I knew it would be necessary to explain the importance of that store--and such other places as the once-long-ago Cinemabilia, and others--in days gone past. Because before the internet, Jerry's, and places like it, were the ONLY place you could go, to get film, TV and theatre stuff.=20 Jerry Ohlinger's, for years on West 4th Street, just up the block from NYU and since, in a couple of locations, could be jammed with folks poring through volumes of photos (stills we called them, and often, still do). In fact, for years, Jerry was a go-to source for many of the network news and local entertainment shows that would suddenly a classic shot of a performer.=20 And then there were the guys who helped supply the movie, theatre and other collectables dealers.=20 I must have met Paul Rubin in the mid-80s, although we had probably been around each other, before that. Paul would show up at some of the movie and comics shows, with various goodies to sell, lobby cards, ephemera...=20 Small of frame, skinny, close cropped hair, beard or moustahce, with a raspy voice... Paul could seem like a character, but in my experience, was almost always pleasant, and filled with cheer.=20 I knew he had hung around Hollywood in the late '60s, but kind of rolled my eyes when he said he used to hang out with Larry Fine of the 3 Stooges. (I mean, why would Larry be having a coffee or a beer with a 20-year old?)=20 But when I found out that Larry, in fact, by the late '60s, did often spend his afternoons simply going out with friends, or fans who would soon become friends... I've meant for over ten years to call Paul up, and get his memories of Fine on the record. Now, that's a fun bit of pop history that's lost.=20 (Which is yet another reminder not to procrastinate anything.)=20 Paul passed away at the end of last December, and many of us who knew him only as an acquaintance are only finding out now.=20 When I went to Google Paul, to see if there were any details about his life that I could include in the mentioning of him I planned to write--=20 There was a shock.=20 Because it turned out for much of the second half of the 1960s, Paul was a PUPPETEER, hanging out at the legendary New York kids TV show hosted by Chuck McCann (and occasionally geting to operate those marvelous Paul Ashley puppets), appearing on THE JOE FRANKLIN SHOW, and putting together a stage act that performed all over New York City, and its boroughs.=20 It's entirely possible, in the way such kids shows would be booked (then and now, come to think of it), that there are folks now in their forties walking around town, whose first encounter with a play of any kind--a live performance--was a play starring Paul and his characters.=20 The memory of those shows is linked below. It's even more stunning to me, personally, because it's written by a puppeteer I've known for ten years. There was never any reason for it to come up that we BOTH knew Paul, our first introductions seperated by a couple of decades.=20 I don't know what happened to Paul's performance aspirations. But the lovely tribute written by his longtime friend is also a reminder never to take anyone for granted, and that the most unexpected people can have the most extraordinary pasts.=20 It's also a lovely glimpse into a past that just no longer exists, that world also populated by Sandy Becker, and Carol Corbett, back when all so many of us, were but wee...=20 Jim Burns=20 http://flexitoon.blogspot.com/2010/12/paul-rubin-rip.html =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:34:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45431 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2011 23:33:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2011 23:33:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2011 23:33:57 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2011 23:33:56 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2011 23:33:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:33:56 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 66.196.85.46 From: "CAPTN G" Subject: Steve Keeters Sunwing X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=QY5ejS3ezN6wX5ZwIfu3ygIAksdteniDs34MfGTFj9ToodtRMC660NY X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi I was wondering if anyone had a copy of Steve Keeters Sunwing #2 that th= ey might want part with. If so please let me know. Thanks Guy From fugtussey1@aol.com Wed Mar 30 19:46:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3226 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2011 02:46:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2011 02:46:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.145) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2011 02:46:08 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p2V2k0b3014638 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:46:00 -0400 X-Received: from core-dhd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.209.129]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 879E4E000087 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:46:00 -0400 (EDT) References: <004d01cbef39$a60ceb70$f226c250$@gsaservice.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 66.182.58.106 In-Reply-To: <004d01cbef39$a60ceb70$f226c250$@gsaservice.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33474-STANDARD X-Received: from 66.182.58.106 by webmail-m089.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.204) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:46:00 -0400 Message-Id: <8CDBD64E6FA98B0-1588-B8EC@webmail-m089.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:46:00 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:515425952:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a4d93eae82746 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Caplan Subject: Update on Fandom Reunion 2011 at Comic-Con International in July X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=Kj0sOzU0id2e-a0w13m3GbgFAW5guWYqfhsfyy5Q9Kx9kXDS X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again! This update may be redundant as I already have sent out the notice to indiv= idual e-addresses. But I thought I'd cover all the bases by sending this to= comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, so if you already received this, please= forgive the intrusion. =20 For those of you getting this thread for the first time, Bill Schelly, fand= om historian extraordinaire, is coordinating a Fandom Reunion at Comic-Con = International in mid-July and we want YOU to attend! A special Fandom Reuni= on Panel will be scheduled at Comic Con =E2=80=93 a time and date will be e= stablished after Wondercon in April.=20 =20 But now, some really EXCITING news from Bill Schelly: =20 =E2=80=9CJackie Estrada has confirmed that Comic-Con has agreed to do a Rec= eption/Party on Saturday night (7/23) to celebrate the 50th anniversary of = comics fandom. The site (convention center or a nearby hotel) hasn't yet b= een established, more details to follow. She has asked for a list of peopl= e (who we have heard from thus far) who are coming. The names should be se= nt through me {Bill Schelly}, not to her directly.=E2=80=9D =20 This is especially great news as we have at least established a specific da= te for a Fandom Reunion Party!=20 =20 I also thought I should give you an update as Bill Schelly has provided me = with the latest list of confirmed Fandom Reunion 2011 attendees. As you can= see, this is shaping up to be quite a spectacular line-up of fandom lumina= ries: =20 Special Guests: Jean Bails Richard Kyle Richard Lupoff Patricia Lupoff Maggie Thompson Roy Thomas Bill Schelly =20 Confirmed/Regular Con attendees: Bob Beerbohm Mark Evanier Jeff Gelb Gary Groth Michelle Nolan Bud Plant Scott Shaw! =20 Also Confirmed: Mike Bennett Larry Bigman Gary Brown Bruce Cardozo (Saturday only) Johnny Chambers Bob Cosgrove Sam De La Rosa Steven Fears Doug Fratz Rob Gluckson Mike Gold Alan Hutchinson Paul Levitz Russ Maheras Rick Norwood Steve Perrin Sal Quartuccio Buddy Saunders Rick Shanklin Hugh Surratt Michael Uslan James Van Hise Mark Verheiden Bill G. Wilson Mark Wheatley Marv Wolfman Craig Yoe =20 Possible Attendees: Jerry Sinkovec =20 Others who aren't coming, but may be asked to contribute to the Comic Con B= ook: Bart Bush (Oklahoma fandom) Roger Hill (Squa Tront) Al Bradford (New England fan) Bernie Bubnis (1st NY con) Glen Johnson Ted White =20 If there are any of you out there who plan to attend the Fandom Reunion at = Comic Con International in July, now is the time to make yourself known. An= d for those of you still on the fence about attending, you can still regist= er as a Professional if you were a fan/pro artist, a fanzine editor/publish= er, a prolific letter-writing BNF, or fanzine article writer (see http://ww= w.comic-con.org/cci/cci_pros.php for details). Again, if you are planning t= o attend the Comic Con, please drop Bill a line at billschelly@aol.com!=20 =20 It=E2=80=99s all starting to come together! Bestest, Aaron Caplan aaron (at) gsaservice.com fugtussey1 (at) aol.com 703-731-8048 cell =20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Mon Apr 25 10:11:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55740 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2011 17:11:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2011 17:11:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2011 17:11:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2011 17:11:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2011 17:11:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:11:41 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.206.166.214 From: "CAPTN G" Subject: Powerman from Star Studded Comics X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=4zK78kHMcoPlrEYXhqZvrm6DryKY9wi3deMqx7gQvrp6Td6bpoQG3-Q X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi I was wondering if anyone in this group might have the origin of Powerma= n scanned ? And if they would be willing to share ? I'm working on a piece = for an future issue of my fanzine. I'm also looking for scans of the origin= s of Mercury Ma and Nukla. Thanks in advance Cap't G=20 From Burbank396@netscape.net Tue Apr 26 09:04:17 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69497 invoked by uid 7800); 26 Apr 2011 16:04:16 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5247 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2011 00:17:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2011 00:17:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.144) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2011 00:17:08 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p3Q0GtMh032308 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:16:55 -0400 X-Received: from core-mpc004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mpc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.191.205]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B56EDE000085 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:16:55 -0400 (EDT) References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 68.11.116.205 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33636-STANDARD X-Received: from 68.11.116.205 by webmail-d134.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.24) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:16:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CDD1BE6263D209-1594-2FC3C@webmail-d134.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:16:55 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:462366944:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d4db60ef76156 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Powerman from Star Studded Comics X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=Gnh8bwjzbH2QVNnfwkBRe5GO50r13lryiLP8EY2i7zJhTYqi-A X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 26 Apr 2011 16:04:16 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: CAPTN G To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:11 am Subject: [cbzines] Powerman from Star Studded Comics Hi I was wondering if anyone in this group might have the origin of Powerman scanned ? And if they would be willing to share ? I'm working on a piece for an future issue of my fanzine. I'm also looking for scans of the origins of Mercury Ma and Nukla. Thanks in advance Cap't G Nukla - the 4 issue Dell title? I have that I think. try - https://rs442l33.rapidshare.com/#!download|442tg|165819918|nukla.rar|23774|R~4D6E32751994C168D334D5C491CAD5A1 I'd love scans of the Texas Trio SSCs baring that the one with the photos of the Houston Comic-con [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sat Jul 23 12:47:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73341 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2011 19:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jul 2011 19:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng13-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.108) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2011 19:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.120] by ng13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 19:47:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by tg1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 19:47:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2011 19:47:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:47:03 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 98.139.165.108 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 208.0.9.200 From: "CAPTN G" Subject: Fanzines and other stuff for sale X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=GXETISAnjaMra8wj2MHskJZCCW0mTNlGHFDZyf4IVJhneMpmyKUCdNc X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi hope this is ok with everyone here. I have some fanzines and other stuff= 4 sale and wanted to see if any one wanted anything.The list below is of s= tuff i have. If you would like a picture email me and i will send you one. = Thanks in advance Guy E.Sparkman Sr.=20 Fanzines=20 1. Star Studded Comics #7 $65.00 2. Fighting Hero Comics Special Edition #1 $30.00 3. Amazing Heroes #9 $5.00 4. Amazing Heroes #12 $5.00 5. Bill Black's Fun Comics #3 $15.00 6. 20 Years of Cartoons by Jim Ivey $10.00 7. The Cartoon Museum #4 $10.00 8. The Cartoon Museum #6,#7.#8 Special triple issue $15.00 9. The Comic Journal #128 $5.00 10. The Comic Journal #131 $5.00 11. Comics Scene #33 $5.00 12. WoodWork vol1 no.4 $5.00 13. WonderWorld #9 $5.00 14. Fanzine'76 vol 2 #3 $10.00 15. Fanzine'77 vol3 #1 $10.00 16. The Barsoomian #11 $8.00 17. Erbania #15 $8.00 18. Erbania #20 $8.00 19. The Book of Zomxathxia vol1 $5.00 20. Astro Advertiser #1 $5.00 21. Astro Advertiser #2 $5.00 22. Comics Interview #68 $10.00 23. Comics Interview #74 $10.00 24. Comic Book Market Place #2 still in original plastic never opened $10.0= 0 25. Comics Buyer's Guide #1305 $4.00 26. Comics Buyer's Guide #1320 $4.00 27. Comics Buyer's Guide #1321 $4.00 28. Comics Buyer's Guide #1323 $4.00 29. Comics Buyer's Guide #1324 $4.00 Comic Magazines=20 1. Marvel Super Special#38 Red Sonja=20=20 $10.00 2. A marvel Special Spider-man special=20=20=20 $8.00 3. Darkman #1 $10.00 4. Marvel Graphic Novel #3 Dreadstar=20 $10.00 5. Marvel Graphic Novel nn Rick=20 Mason the Agent $10.00 6. 1994 #11 $10.00 7. 1994 #18 =20=20=20=20=20 8. Ghita of Alizarr by Frank Thorne=20=20 $25.00 Magazines=20 1. Sports illustrated Swimsuit issue 1987=20 $5.00 2. Sports illustrated Swimsuit issue 1988=20 $5.00 3. Sports illustrated Swimsuit issue 1989=20 $5.00 4. Sports illustrated Swimsuit issue 2005=20 $5.00 5. Maxim Nov 2003 Jessica Alba issue=20 $5.00 6. Tuff Stuff Jr. Barry Sanders cover $5.00 7. Tuff Stuff Magazine presents 125Years of=20 Baseball Collectibles Ken Griffey Jr.=20 Cover $15.00 7. Beckett Basketball Monthly Sept.1992 Earvin Johnson cover=20=20=20 $5.00 =20=20=20=20=20 From fugtussey1@aol.com Mon Aug 08 17:50:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3735 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 00:50:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 00:50:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.169.203) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 00:50:29 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p790nvbH010094; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:49:57 -0400 X-Received: from core-dhe003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.209.195]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AFC61E000082; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:49:55 -0400 (EDT) To: aaron@fantucchio.com X-AOL-IP: 96.231.29.178 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-Received: from 96.231.29.178 by webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.216) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:49:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, billschelly@aol.com Message-Id: <8CE24456401A87B-1350-1B9CB@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:49:55 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:396967648:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a4e4084332ee2 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.169.203 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Caplan Subject: Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=lzGDdCRfqXQ1Dj_S4GBUbYRkqBvBpEnWgdNpntCyjkcty0dV X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... BillSchelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "FandomReunion" a= t the 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into aspectacular gatherin= g of comic professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol'farts (like me).= There were many fandom-oriented panels to choose from, wellattended and hi= ghly interesting. It was a blast! I have set up a web site thatgives a pict= orial report on the =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occurred a= littleover a week ago. If you couldn=E2=80=99t make it to the Reunion, now= =E2=80=99s your chance tosee what it was all about. If you attended, see if= your photo was captured! =20 Goto: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 Thisis a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, s= ogive it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99llfind the following on the web page: Reportson the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen t= o certainpanels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Reportof the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the part= icipants(over 140 attended)!=20 Areport on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on = theside of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2=80= =99s 1, 2, and 3; TheCollector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic Buyer= 's Guide #1, The ComicReader #8 (first actual issue under the name "The Com= ic Reader"), TheComic Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Comments= #2. SinceI=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanzi= ne images thatyou can click to find more info on that particular zine. Ifany of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would lik= e, Ican email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember=E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially if= you have a slowerinternet connection.=20 =20 Alsocheck out my www.fantucchio.com sitewhile you=E2=80=99re there! And let= me know what you think! =20 Bestest, =20 AaronCaplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Tue Aug 09 06:58:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13714 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 13:58:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 13:58:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.186) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 13:58:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 13:58:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.88.232] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 13:58:42 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 13:58:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 878628.54148.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 34930 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2011 13:58:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iWx.1iwVM1k.8G6IMVv_xSIQFJQhtZ.wk4aKh9iB.oRKORb gnsplPFLObkmsgfNJNZRU_iKRTLBvAUr5yUVkW4Q2fRge4_KhvMNLrk.FTlm ZrI2pZnhdpCOKSIbnc3qSUJupbAOn3mYLbx9L2Sxd4T9ZsfHMtA6K_63X3aF 67qShc8GtiRiZrTCAOEoAYHSw0QPajfXIBsfj1QnaWtIOk1uMXL9OYUd__Bk FfGLEeo7JvyQIm32xpDbMbsX6XBSNorj12R5ktH3HERCKp0Rx1kg7pLTf79R 5hS4xclcLg5k2qok6IiiW9GyQr97O4WzcsYp0_NAwg8VG5jv58MBMh9bO.N_ tTkEy8lltZ8b6onX1Uc_CwoFIWLP5HR6RdLQsMBJPIq7RAwQ63QipE38xJOX XKOhGtOfuFi5hGQ7WnEp42NcovKQrElpu4BkhEa40ekl.9T172iddZcD_y7j Q8X2duX1AQeMdbiCi.ydd6V9BxyWcRX5Ko3hPVAyib1CA5hPrADn5hn3oRxl ZfJkVCNHDkgkMP8.Xn9iU.FKen45ILB8r5nSrY8YdAMW5sRdjNCGQiB.2M06 OPIKrkK36dJ4nq5Iv8oATRgmFMfX3Yb1VfDLfFchNorTl_0JHroD9saRrmPE cJmRDaD9vQ2hhCzGf9XuCpNqd8teZvKv0MhlHkOipePtBoE_tnp_lsqgIJPC TMTNC0PYxjoglza5a8ScBO.LmXcVSci4je6qeOUKHo07s_Rs1Klr64NtAeK9 Yt5WgwLmYKwLpf7ORrSJL6yZmFhNQkFVR.1qqjMPpDlNKDh6FYh9Mp3trBf0 p_tK5b5TVkuA_Ovk__uHnVCTlPE0Tli4H7CvUukhGLhTodk.7r4LV9qsqWmM EecUrabgKf4sG7mcIYKEotHrTZPNTHF_0F24GPbfrj3y3C_KvI93H76e5Nsy HuSE5IPb6CPEbx8o6QCBxgN9elJFUsix_euwCc4mEy5ehdz6mDM3rrUng.2b hn964uyXPY1oOKnXd35pe9tH3hD5xLfmRMDuzwLzv6.U3xsypnti1VS926Um 0 X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 06:58:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 Message-ID: <1312898322.39622.YahooMailClassic@web121718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:58:42 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CE24456401A87B-1350-1B9CB@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.91.186 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=EagHT13PdPbWjFVSgrbt3Zdtf0w0NtqfnwRS826xCAP4zzI X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This presentation of the reunion is excellent - thank you! Seeing some of my old cohorts and others that I admired definitely kicked i= n the "I wish a coulda been there" emotions. Best Wishes, Keith Greene --- On Mon, 8/8/11, Aaron Caplan wrote: From: Aaron Caplan Subject: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went l= ive To: aaron@fantucchio.com Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, billschelly@aol.com Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 8:49 PM =C2=A0 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... BillSchelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "FandomReunion" a= t the 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into aspectacular gatherin= g of comic professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol'farts (like me).= There were many fandom-oriented panels to choose from, wellattended and hi= ghly interesting. It was a blast! I have set up a web site thatgives a pict= orial report on the =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occurred a= littleover a week ago. If you couldn=E2=80=99t make it to the Reunion, now= =E2=80=99s your chance tosee what it was all about. If you attended, see if= your photo was captured! =20 Goto: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 Thisis a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, s= ogive it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99llfind the following on the web page: Reportson the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen t= o certainpanels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Reportof the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the part= icipants(over 140 attended)!=20 Areport on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on = theside of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2=80= =99s 1, 2, and 3; TheCollector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic Buyer= 's Guide #1, The ComicReader #8 (first actual issue under the name "The Com= ic Reader"), TheComic Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Comments= #2. SinceI=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanzi= ne images thatyou can click to find more info on that particular zine. Ifany of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would lik= e, Ican email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember=E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially if= you have a slowerinternet connection.=20 =20 Alsocheck out my www.fantucchio.com sitewhile you=E2=80=99re there! And let= me know what you think! =20 Bestest, =20 AaronCaplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20 =20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Aug 09 07:03:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52628 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 14:03:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 14:03:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.143) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 14:03:55 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p79E3ff0008008; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:03:41 -0400 X-Received: from core-dhe003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.209.195]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3C333E000093; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:03:41 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CE24456401A87B-1350-1B9CB@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> <1312896828.75299.YahooMailRC@web80705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: dfratz@prodigy.net X-AOL-IP: 96.231.29.178 In-Reply-To: <1312896828.75299.YahooMailRC@web80705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-Received: from 96.231.29.178 by web-mmc-m03.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.136) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 10:03:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com, billschelly@aol.com Message-Id: <8CE24B446D1FA90-1218-D87B@web-mmc-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:03:41 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463835968:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb4e413e3d219d X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Caplan Subject: Re: Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=VWOt3kwdLX-Wb8bq31ptkaZX879quGtsf0WR160iT31HyRET X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Doug, Yes, I had the same feeling, because only after the Reunion did I realize t= here were many people I had stood next to, but didn't realize who they were= . We all had Comic-Con name badges, but the hell if I could read the names!= They need to make the lettering larger for the over-50 crowd. I actually pulled about 15 of the pro photo's from Jackie Estrada's flickr = account, where she placed about 40 photos - you can find them at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23795783@N06/5986200986/in/photostream#/photos= /23795783@N06/5986200986/in/set-72157627179984789/ I was much more focused on meeting (and taking photos of) the fan editors, = writers and artists than the existing professionals - most the time I didn'= t recognize a pro. I sat there talking to Denis Kitchen for 5 minutes befor= e realizing who he was. Jackie was keyed into the professionals, likely bec= ause she knows them! I used just about every photo I had, except for very blurry ones, of which = there were many. Bill G Wilson was also taking photos because I used severa= l that he sent me. Rob Gustaveson was taking some videos that he posted on= =20 About Comic Courier, I see the mistake I made. I thought it had you listed = as publisher, but it actually lists you, "D.D. Fratz" as one of the artists= ! So I've already changed the site wording (but you may have to refresh you= r browser to see the change). Bestest, Aaron =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: DONALD FRATZ To: Aaron Caplan ; aaron Cc: comicbookfanzines ; billschelly Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 9:33 am Subject: Re: Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live Aaron: =20 Wow! What an excellent job you did in chronicling the Reunion! I am sad to= say that I only now realize that several people who I really would have li= ked to meet and talk to! Like Wendy Fletcher/Pini... And several more who= m I would have liked to talk to, but only had time for a hand-shake. If we = do this again, let's have name badges! =20 Still bummed just thinking about the fanzines you had stolen. I hope you a= re wrong that they did not know what they had and trashed them... but I als= o hope no one prfits from fencing them... =20 By the way, I did not do Comic Courier. I remember it vaguely, but can't r= emember who published that one. =20 Any other photos you were unable to fit into the report? Was anyone else t= aking photos?=20=20 =20 - Doug Fratz From: Aaron Caplan To: aaron@fantucchio.com Cc: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com; billschelly@aol.com Sent: Mon, August 8, 2011 8:49:55 PM Subject: Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... Bill Schelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "Fandom Reunion"= at the 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into a spectacular gathe= ring of comic professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol' farts (like = me). There were many fandom-oriented panels to choose from, well attended a= nd highly interesting. It was a blast! I have set up a web site that gives = a pictorial report on the =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occu= rred a little over a week ago. If you couldn=E2=80=99t make it to the Reuni= on, now=E2=80=99s your chance to see what it was all about. If you attended= , see if your photo was captured! =20 Go to: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 This is a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, = so give it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99ll find the following on the web page: Reports on the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen = to certain panels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Report of the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the par= ticipants (over 140 attended)!=20 A report on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on= the side of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2= =80=99s 1, 2, and 3; The Collector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic B= uyer's Guide #1, The Comic Reader #8 (first actual issue under the name "Th= e Comic Reader"), The Comic Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Co= mments #2. Since I=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanz= ine images that you can click to find more info on that particular zine. If any of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would li= ke, I can email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember =E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially i= f you have a slower internet connection.=20 =20 Also check out my www.fantucchio.com site while you=E2=80=99re there! And l= et me know what you think! =20 Bestest, =20 Aaron Caplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CArchivist@aol.com Tue Aug 09 08:19:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: carchivist@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84547 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 15:18:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 15:18:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.146) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 15:18:59 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p79FIksn008265 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:18:46 -0400 X-Received: from core-dgc003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.137]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2D424E0000AF for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:18:46 -0400 (EDT) References: <1312892026.764.8897.m7@yahoogroups.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 108.28.67.72 In-Reply-To: <1312892026.764.8897.m7@yahoogroups.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD X-Received: from 108.28.67.72 by webmail-m145.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.29) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:18:45 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE24BEC41193AD-1644-6605E@webmail-m145.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:18:46 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:471548480:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484e414fd67663 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.146 From: Ray Bottorff Jr Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=901407; y=5z19tFEV8-gEYzNrNPGoajP6rc3JX4ZQyNMPzSkm8nUThdXZBw X-Yahoo-Profile: carchivist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great rundown Aaron! Ugh, the theft of those fanzines and their possible fa= te depresses me to no end. I hate to hear when these things happen. Of cour= se, I am sure the Comic-Con doesn't have security cams in the area either..= . my best -Ray Bottorff -----Original Message----- From: comicbookfanzines To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 4:13 am Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 732 There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live=20=20=20=20 From: Aaron Caplan Message ________________________________________________________________________ 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live Posted by: "Aaron Caplan" fugtussey1@aol.com fugtussey Date: Mon Aug 8, 2011 5:50 pm ((PDT)) Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this=20 to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... BillSchelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "FandomReunion" a= t the=20 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into aspectacular gathering of c= omic=20 professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol'farts (like me). There were= many=20 fandom-oriented panels to choose from, wellattended and highly interesting.= It=20 was a blast! I have set up a web site thatgives a pictorial report on the=20 =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occurred a littleover a week a= go. If you couldn=E2=80=99t=20 make it to the Reunion, now=E2=80=99s your chance tosee what it was all abo= ut. If you=20 attended, see if your photo was captured! =20 Goto: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 Thisis a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, s= ogive=20 it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99llfind the following on the web page: Reportson the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen t= o=20 certainpanels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Reportof the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the=20 participants(over 140 attended)!=20 Areport on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on= =20 theside of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2=80= =99s 1, 2, and 3;=20 TheCollector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic Buyer's Guide #1, The=20 ComicReader #8 (first actual issue under the name "The Comic Reader"), TheC= omic=20 Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Comments #2. SinceI=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanzi= ne images=20 thatyou can click to find more info on that particular zine. Ifany of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would lik= e,=20 Ican email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember=E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially if= you have a=20 slowerinternet connection.=20 =20 Alsocheck out my www.fantucchio.com sitewhile you=E2=80=99re there! And let= me know what=20 you think! =20 Bestest, =20 AaronCaplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Tue Aug 09 09:12:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97608 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 16:12:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 16:12:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.33) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 16:12:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 16:12:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 16:12:03 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2011 16:12:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 383753.55642.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 99322 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2011 16:12:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yn1MaGgVM1nAF59ocVcWcqqSutIsIfmWQdQKV_umTPs8etJ F6PtAdp57DKru51cPa8TbFT.UYqiVDdJRSljCIbn_9Taiq80coDRHeCKMqa6 UWEGkvIhWZ5_2abCYtSToytvIoLcznEvNe3KdS7Z._nZpdmaYbCOx3QBSLH3 ldSicOMjLxXB9lb17Ar.nYLuVb.ErcLIht97gDtRr1XWUlQdz4xjFTMDlfCh NxmoofF8bVhugu5YLbv1fx0TuHv.6rCnTipUbXKclyXp8F10iwrL0bAMDw0O zrowASnJNPMeOVdLO_TNi5yy43NmlGdegZcwXv9L08x6Jiv6z8hbf1fkK08G zWuX9o3MJwtro27.D5PJHwCMHNJVQrm6AhkCH8LmEA6_V409hqSVED.ceN0f lOMJ2rhbw32rNgCgsl5pMO1TPljGS4IlsvWeCoHQk_H02lF7ZE0SXcjbzRYu S6ysysrsoma3B6FoHBjG2KXzXiaczIOpD01ovDDnC1z6O1ao3vDWGk9Xf0Yx q4g.O4ihEUeXKaAl6_Rjv8bf.GcCS8b2zMXjlAgGcT2FGzjkQG0vkbRrsC0K B9oqBRlfa6zgzXWBw4InTEPMMdg_aif02I5GfU.BNqedWPez51_fiFX.rPcn CSimpf0C3oR_eFUEy4ytaR7zIr6JjaWoFdC4QsRC4_sn5fDVd7hbPNjlhf.C b_X3KOHz82ikvU_YWQqV1HL0adLS5bLPMCDlSY0yBCT39HgVRzeK7U6IxiN8 hrAp6Y7OlMM6lCukfvYHMmcdq0a88YtGpBDlm3qxZTUU_OoaBw32l6oceO8A HB1V7KbNwsSJjGacwyJC3CnH0HjvatwE6p4YmJfzjXZcKFpKb7d_GR4Vk366 lgD8U.W_KJ6r6xNvbp242i4DDd6Qqn1I7ljG3elrMsZAHcMOovzUTelgUSDr E.8OGjPzbbafQWpaVq2myFur32jydeYwH9rM6feDIDieFTy6GIXFiVDPfWcI nPat6RxVZpqQbbCvNIl.wFLxj3HSrg6slhfNzFSWPuWee9TyfkXaCf.veNx8 i X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 09:12:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 Message-ID: <1312906323.95820.YahooMailClassic@web121707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:12:03 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CE24BEC41193AD-1644-6605E@webmail-m145.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.91.33 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=BRDcNY3SgKbHmwIUJS3U7GmiFp8HyNggmHyxi6gBj3JeN_k X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the theft of those treasured fanzines is despicable. I feel your pain.= Fandom, dealers, collectors...keep your eyes and ears open. Keith Greene --- On Tue, 8/9/11, Ray Bottorff Jr wrote: From: Ray Bottorff Jr Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just we= nt live To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 11:18 AM =C2=A0 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 Great rundown Aaron! Ugh, the theft of those fanzines and their possible fa= te depresses me to no end. I hate to hear when these things happen. Of cour= se, I am sure the Comic-Con doesn't have security cams in the area either..= . my best -Ray Bottorff -----Original Message----- From: comicbookfanzines To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 4:13 am Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 732 There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live=20=20=20=20 From: Aaron Caplan Message __________________________________________________________ 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live Posted by: "Aaron Caplan" fugtussey1@aol.com fugtussey Date: Mon Aug 8, 2011 5:50 pm ((PDT)) Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this=20 to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... BillSchelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "FandomReunion" a= t the=20 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into aspectacular gathering of c= omic=20 professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol'farts (like me). There were= many=20 fandom-oriented panels to choose from, wellattended and highly interesting.= It=20 was a blast! I have set up a web site thatgives a pictorial report on the=20 =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occurred a littleover a week a= go. If you couldn=E2=80=99t=20 make it to the Reunion, now=E2=80=99s your chance tosee what it was all abo= ut. If you=20 attended, see if your photo was captured! =20 Goto: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 Thisis a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, s= ogive=20 it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99llfind the following on the web page: Reportson the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen t= o=20 certainpanels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Reportof the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the=20 participants(over 140 attended)!=20 Areport on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on= =20 theside of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2=80= =99s 1, 2, and 3;=20 TheCollector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic Buyer's Guide #1, The=20 ComicReader #8 (first actual issue under the name "The Comic Reader"), TheC= omic=20 Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Comments #2. SinceI=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanzi= ne images=20 thatyou can click to find more info on that particular zine. Ifany of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would lik= e,=20 Ican email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember=E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially if= you have a=20 slowerinternet connection.=20 =20 Alsocheck out my www.fantucchio.com sitewhile you=E2=80=99re there! And let= me know what=20 you think! =20 Bestest, =20 AaronCaplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (1) ---------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links ---------------------------------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20 =20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From fugtussey1@aol.com Tue Aug 09 09:42:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33516 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2011 16:42:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by crsgroups4-scan.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2011 16:42:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.146) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 16:42:17 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p79Gg80M010339 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:42:08 -0400 X-Received: from core-dhe003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.209.195]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id ACC4BE000096 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:42:07 -0400 (EDT) References: <1312892026.764.8897.m7@yahoogroups.com> <8CE24BEC41193AD-1644-6605E@webmail-m145.sysops.aol.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-AOL-IP: 96.231.29.178 In-Reply-To: <8CE24BEC41193AD-1644-6605E@webmail-m145.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD X-Received: from 96.231.29.178 by web-mmc-m03.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.136) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:42:07 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE24CA693BC922-1218-10002@web-mmc-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:42:07 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:475567232:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 8 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b4e41635f179b X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Caplan Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=HCW-OzqIDVKDkMxzr4PP6zTTeoAjFOxqSPomA6OX3zV8YLRA X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ray, When it happened I went to first Security Guard I found and he told me to g= o to Hall B Lost & Found with the exact time of the theft. I went to Lost &= Found and they told me to go to the Security in Hall F about security cams= (about a 20 minute walk in the crowd). I got to Hall F, and the Security p= eople kind of snickered and told me "there are no camera's." Apparently, th= ey tell all the Rent-A-Security contractors that there are cameras, but rea= lly there are none, or at least none available for the Con! Do you think th= e Comic-Con people would have to buy that service? I thought all big conven= tion centers had cams all around but not in SD...=20 The sad part is I know better. Theft is pretty common at Comic-Con, though = it's more likely someone shoplifting a few comics from a box. I've heard st= ories every year of someone getting ripped off at Comic-Con in a similar wa= y, I just got a bit too cocky and didn't stay close enough to my bags. I he= ard that they caught a 75 year old trying to steal some dealer's high value= comics this year, but that is not confirmed.=20 Aaron =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ray Bottorff Jr To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 11:19 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just we= nt live =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Great rundown Aaron! Ugh, the theft of those fanzines and their possible fa= te depresses me to no end. I hate to hear when these things happen. Of cour= se, I am sure the Comic-Con doesn't have security cams in the area either..= . my best -Ray Bottorff -----Original Message----- From: comicbookfanzines To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 4:13 am Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 732 There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live=20=20=20=20 From: Aaron Caplan Message __________________________________________________________ 1. Fandom Reunion at SD Comic-Con 2011 Web Site just went live Posted by: "Aaron Caplan" fugtussey1@aol.com fugtussey Date: Mon Aug 8, 2011 5:50 pm ((PDT)) Hi All! Some of you will be getting this twice (or maybe 3 times) since I'm sending= this=20 to several comics-related yahoogroups! My apologies beforehand ... BillSchelly has done it again! He coordinated this year's "FandomReunion" a= t the=20 2011 Comic-Con in San Diego, and turned it into aspectacular gathering of c= omic=20 professionals, BNF's from fandom's past, and ol'farts (like me). There were= many=20 fandom-oriented panels to choose from, wellattended and highly interesting.= It=20 was a blast! I have set up a web site thatgives a pictorial report on the=20 =E2=80=9CFandom Reunion=E2=80=9D events that occurred a littleover a week a= go. If you couldn=E2=80=99t=20 make it to the Reunion, now=E2=80=99s your chance tosee what it was all abo= ut. If you=20 attended, see if your photo was captured! =20 Goto: =20 http://www.fantucchio.com/fandom_reunion_comic-con_2011/comic-con_2011_fand= om_reunion.html =20 Thisis a very large, long scrolling page, with tons of photos and images, s= ogive=20 it some time to load. =20 You=E2=80=99llfind the following on the web page: Reportson the fandom-related Panels, including links where you can listen t= o=20 certainpanels, and actual view a video of one of them.=20 A report on the Con itself. Reportof the actual Fandom Reunion party, with plenty of photos of the=20 participants(over 140 attended)!=20 Areport on the theft of historically important fanzines (I left my bags on= =20 theside of a booth for 10 seconds) =E2=80=93 these included Alter Ego=E2=80= =99s 1, 2, and 3;=20 TheCollector 1, Xero 1, Fantastic Fanzine #1, Comic Buyer's Guide #1, The=20 ComicReader #8 (first actual issue under the name "The Comic Reader"), TheC= omic=20 Fan #1, Champion #1, Comicology #1 and Comic Comments #2. SinceI=E2=80=99m a major comic fanzine fanatic, there are a plenty of fanzi= ne images=20 thatyou can click to find more info on that particular zine. Ifany of you who attended the Reunion festivities see a photo you would lik= e,=20 Ican email higher resolution images to you. =20 Remember=E2=80=A6 give the site some time to load the images, especially if= you have a=20 slowerinternet connection.=20 =20 Alsocheck out my www.fantucchio.com sitewhile you=E2=80=99re there! And let= me know what=20 you think! =20 Bestest, =20 AaronCaplan aaron@fantucchio.com fugtussey1@aol.com www.fantucchio.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (1) ---------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links ---------------------------------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dlarm1951@aol.com Thu Aug 11 07:18:26 2011 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 48932 invoked by uid 7800); 11 Aug 2011 14:18:26 -0000 X-Sender: dlarm1951@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69391 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2011 22:41:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2011 22:41:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2011 22:41:53 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2011 22:41:53 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2011 22:41:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:41:53 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.160 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.134.19.141 From: "lionsroar2001us" Subject: Fanzines on eBay X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64684929; y=Q2vD-67AM_4SeYiLVxDh-kL0_Eg4zb8AMD_RroyUOsBRblvZdqA6vQ1n X-Yahoo-Profile: lionsroar2001us X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 11 Aug 2011 14:18:26 -0000 I have just listed about 30 fanzines from the 60s, including first issues o= f Komix Illustrated and Masquerader. You can find them under seller ID Lio= nsroar2. Check them out. Also, I sent some additional photos to Aaron to add to his nice looking sit= e on the 50th in San Diego. I'll forward shots of the artwork displays nex= t week. Best, David Armstrong From fugtussey1@aol.com Fri Nov 11 05:56:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: fugtussey1@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11065 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2011 13:56:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2011 13:56:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-ma02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.206.40) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2011 13:56:04 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pABDtto8018597 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 X-Received: from core-dhb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.208.195]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 46BE3E00008F for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34561-STANDARD X-Received: from 98.188.126.227 by webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.104) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 Message-Id: <8CE6E90C426DB1B-9CC-14352@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:444203232:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b4ebd296b5d95 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.206.40 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Aaron Caplan Subject: Who's going to OAFCON 2011 This weekend? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=KCff6JGLjUW2frEmGsVMwt5yWUMBOgQVUURkW0RLf_QbkB1C X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Guys! Let's get a head count on who will be at OAFCON in Oklahoma City this weekend. I know I will be there and so will Bill Schelly and Bob Beerbaum. Anyone else? Stop by my table - I am setting up a John G. Fantucchio original art display (not for sale) plus I will have tons of fanzine-related items, including 60's comic fanzines and original art from Grass Green, Alan Hanley, Bill Black, Steve Stiles and other fandom luminaries. Hope to see you all there! Aaron Caplan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From greene68@yahoo.com Fri Nov 11 06:47:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61561 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2011 14:47:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Nov 2011 14:47:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm21-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.46) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2011 14:47:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2011 14:47:51 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2011 14:47:51 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2011 14:47:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 870404.48006.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 38667 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2011 14:47:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: A7SZ_84VM1mPawbEEtjqx.PwQJrGcTEEW4p4bkUIl2dkhGE QeQQs.AoNwXEumrDMIPanwQMYxiZm.FURcJha.tGMEZWi2b1btsE9z.XFPfX bQ6Aqci79fXAOBjc2jYRytOhaHlr7ashiaoRbVav_mWx3ROan6lPXwBNvBXi kgNZmPE8eU2OlQrlnPU.RhfS_BZpOL9f74AxQ0ZL9trRkQI9yjHmytnV9M6q SoV20Ncw4iU.fqr7Cb7hIOMm2HYTufa3Ox9XGAzGuQA5lC7YiDAKcThlJrcc s.gR7qWo_YvmlaLYOVyEo1G_7MYXzzoCQxmtOhgntlD2D.oCP7SsEmbZ8aHd zzFHlC7ayK99KsXNoYdu9iXizhZ17NQuT73luoogtrJw26dLnsbslphiXv_0 .kr0MVbd6rYcxnmikvwIRcGYxIqxwjyyoOE6ecvegQLvAmjDcspPyCT2Y125 DoGHR9BpoMa2Xfeq8jdsEterN4PZLG2lb.mp2PJk9DycBNUCdxBmDMuOLF.F LBMyQnFKzpbxdQA1hLiR.D9leD1SQpKqCVL47EaM2l2A1wHdshtnDfMYTElb xv_9qFwh.h22Wf6FHmv.DdPNBiVnUEEq5TujbCzl1emgQt7UWznZVjAMskl1 qrebbdYNQp66E8uhWm.iB.M826X5kRPlWjemZXxBF92eBBDt3e5wgq7VEMBS ZpkeusLxzGguS9H6n4YcTd4aTsknxF2T9PDenNlV2kHZFo4SzwBKM6p_V3ra im4TOmVIagwxF5nSPvvW_Prg3CY_HlL3PMYzeX.2gOlFnjPorKfjNoCH1b.e xLbxgxwVaOW0KiOWsgLgdLI.1iSiU2SOIxVD3aOkGMk2uoOFfH5Erl4hUSb_ 54gmv7rJa8SipRx41p2OsDOvljUJjloQ_Cc_dv9Io8oO882YwrCjlyxmguqz nBT_2YPHGViK9c3BZMKsCpuhoc8CLTbcUarqe4P90.7f0G1Xb2PxZjAyxpE5 hmCRlqAZr9Sf0xNXeZaXEcRH3v_AjVQyK630.qZO0RwBlW6P55G8F1WmNu8G O4RoVpk1chsxCqqb8LitmfkGw9cMPXZggt5oeDSPTHjR_DNB.abwU7d0b2mV 0FAF.oRoy6S1CzRhwYf6nq8TscnQ3rVxCWbc.h7od4keQWamrEkt9cbhcuMF 3M5XuwJVKMd19q6erVuLLlkE2IeQKA9UxbrkPTZHwd3T0ACYfgSROGRaL5DK M9HOg1Ki_FgPXzDv6HS5ZecGdepCLuLPhUQXxmnQJCRMCMtEywGqQXTPR3pm OGM3ZJq0wzBu0NmbTBUjtYnF2a5JbaGVSHQ3qd3IRSARsbcMB9xaMOTj0ndk iQlPDrH1.PKlP3Rqbq2Xk32.jP4q6FTcMve3bR7twWT5GF4Do7s4.gA_j65L QVW_wuXio3AKvCNqSX1W7aGuUAmtPXqGjh4x3YulgzwGSoS4VwmFQ3U1vz11 dPiHUP9Eo9.FafYDzEiNWGlBn9hyM6OJubtSKa15wCtj7zi6pbagqNXtQYU4 0Qlb5ws_RxE2DJfWoW1Vvqyx69qpP18Z_oxZUSTT2gDI.6qFr9aP8yfuOXYj dgJeu3gIvHqv_iCqC38zx11cxXe.ysDOqhcNZZvf1cWrSOtqyQJ8c_k6rOyu 5ysBTovcJSguki2Lxxis96yk0BfJLyhQPH2DRO7AYW7Ldh7GQji.vDHbDcow zsNKX6BCt2RF9Zbd1OGqeCe0kOzz4XPEBa.W5OlEAQkWu_SlVgdlSl7TJ.f4 ATXcTIscl2QvMtAamf046VaIWCRrxE8fiQlBjCAXg9joy51s1y5hGPwV6pCT U8VtJYkkeUwaTQbly06nyB939JVmfWti5XxyJtO_uBrgC5MAGgiFKMGotsih uyD78cev0ja4aQs8knbxNu7CZnUs7Z3EnxrDrKTLo.XzQZF5Qz3nqtmpqUS1 xWISqyK_BlrfmYn08imVHLVXTmjmPICalFmHnDLrF5oyifaZUhsevIMzXQvE mnPFweCmNZ_4Vg6FzA5O_ZFpI7ktLWdW70kKDAy3dz0vh9M7g608uqGmN1vp N76hfF_YNuIeLlGS6s4bwzepx4pXJpJE7FY57UHWwCoPiPTEbYX_KiGaDcYQ rWzuP0iGwKtbXQ5lwO9ARdWWLn70aOmekdt2WkrzaE7VPYG6XV3QCk4y9xYt YL7Cf5_w2cnkUrDsKNptjMTvx8C_06BlZoBsioXteg1dp3eHjCQeax2t9SOB MS9QDlRQuj4QSBIrmt140D6morPPGOrj9p3.jx5yOc2KO9tbH.Uk_lVHKG27 LwdJ2TWVmGM.yO4x5niwGNzYFeQAys5gjfxMb_sIEUz19RN1Vp1EL3StuwMt JGr2bjaet0.5evVkuMVd20htUDyezl0EKghXBr7zyYxEmDj5uh6ef2beU4J1 s0gLLbnEzqrxonys5EXeqE_Xz9GFuo87Pm.UPn8wBa2Sn9n_2t5sev9Fz_XI 5gfWc15hoiSr.Hqw3D7hqrl0e3fFYo1l8ZOSaFYtmlbpFiD5.P2NI3RRAJ3B xpUZW7k8AslnfQp9IBfWHG63ca6RBrFjuutcwbsshSwmyR1vkdbJ1hEfppMQ YeoToXDaGgWeUrLKg_7jXNo5ngZO5dUR3Mdj.jvqKj93dfyv62Z1DPzfuOOP QRk1mDctL6n7E9K_DRDHLhaW5aC67RYivwPWw9TQkfjltUtAz8RMILoyKoUT FInGW5Yc_z6jy.V5AQcCexBq0LrM.yEgZk3YOQ0dnS8AgfYw4N4WNsWDxutE wae5MmlDrFZt3LLAPK0ht63deQaVb9NYCCNQ6AXxx2orgHw700lhAoqmh8lx Mf3xTWTMT57sY4UIboNaRFcaM4mMKAr8pefyxC8KNFyG_iyBfWAyqW4ZwbdB Hdkq0LxhRMHifUfIbQe6W4FxlRtwJpysqaJb1JPcr1NQ0BscJgUWeyn.XVdz 9zrQ4DtGEvy1yHlhrs_cXQiBc70DoXFS3jGn0BwBdJrQvdJWIZUPdKfy0iwj lTq8D3kqrRy8_IRJmwzPNpZQCaBN2xVevD.xXO3Vs4olkhPC6drCB2gululO rgts5qWfMQD6FxJXRzVcjEjguNqjOZkLhPrqEo7bq5eixFb1rmGVqRY3PBWk Th_fR.Z5_x6EzxAx6u7Yx2rRoWsyfLazG9MD7WtgqE_raREH6qcF_w5FJU5J IpgjmutMyGgW6q7TzTUBwwEOF X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:47:51 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1321022871.37638.YahooMailClassic@web121708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:47:51 -0800 (PST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <8CE6E90C426DB1B-9CC-14352@webmail-d078.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.91.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Who's going to OAFCON 2011 This weekend? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=ZZBn0Su25qZFZzdHYylW_VyhGSYUlXmCKvpL5jk96_LPbCU X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like fun, Aaron.=20 I would have enjoyed meeting you and seeing Bill, and probably some other f= olks I used to know, one way or another, from the early fandom days. I woul= d like to see your collection of original art sometime, too. I love that st= uff!=20 Your mentioning my old friend Grass, and Alan Hanley, stirs up some fond me= mories. I had the pleasure of visiting both of their "studios" -- at Grass'= s home in Fort Wayne (he visited my home a few times, too), and Hanley's pl= ace in Chicago many years ago. As a young, aspiring artist myself, I was in= awe of their talent. You'll be in my thoughts this weekend, and I'll be looking forward to seein= g a few pix of the event, which will make me regret not being there, I'm su= re. Enjoy! Keith Greene --- On Fri, 11/11/11, Aaron Caplan wrote: From: Aaron Caplan Subject: [cbzines] Who's going to OAFCON 2011 This weekend? To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 8:55 AM =C2=A0 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 Hey Guys!=20 Let's get a head count on who will be at OAFCON in Oklahoma City this weeke= nd. I know I will be there and so will Bill Schelly and Bob Beerbaum. Anyon= e else?=20 Stop by my table - I am setting up a John G. Fantucchio original art displa= y (not for sale) plus I will have tons of fanzine-related items, including = 60's comic fanzines and original art from Grass Green, Alan Hanley, Bill Bl= ack, Steve Stiles and other fandom luminaries. Hope to see you all there! Aaron Caplan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From a.f.smith@att.net Tue Jul 31 09:17:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.f.smith@att.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32532 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2012 16:17:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jul 2012 16:17:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng10-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.78) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2012 16:17:53 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.123] by ng10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2012 16:17:52 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by tg4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2012 16:17:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:17:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 76.30.254.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.30.254.129 From: "Anthony" Subject: History of Houston Fandom X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=373284133; y=1tDtjgw5D0Jp-h7EDw8NyA2l3-8lUWKMrgavFmvV8a0rRCaKsRXm4ptluX4 X-Yahoo-Profile: a.f.smith@att.net I'm working on a visual history of Houston fandom in the 60s and 70s and am= looking for material I might not have: fanzines, photos, personal remember= ances, et cetera. In addition to my own long held collection I have the vol= uminous holdings of Ken Donnell (the official Houston printer) as well mate= rial from the estates of Walter Irwin & Willie Patterson. If anyone has any= thing they'd be willing to share, please let me know. Thanks, Anthony Smith From Burbank396@netscape.net Wed Aug 01 05:42:24 2012 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20271 invoked by uid 7800); 1 Aug 2012 12:42:23 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79406 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 12:39:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2012 12:39:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-da01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.105.143) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2012 12:39:38 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q71CdWDk006571 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:39:32 -0400 X-Received: from core-mpc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mpc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.191.197]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7D2E2E000082 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:39:31 -0400 (EDT) References: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-PHONE X-Received: from 98.178.194.99 by webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.41) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF3DF9D4C93586-1564-16454@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:39:31 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476653376:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294950192383574e X-Originating-IP: 205.188.105.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=u7K3uMhFEfeN8bl2dcYw8xMS_iwnBEoOy76jid9JoguWvUuVHQ X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 1 Aug 2012 12:42:23 -0000 My only association to Houston fandom was the 1968 comic con. There was a photo page in an issue of Star Studded Comics of some of those that attended. It was my first con. I took the bus from New Orleans to attend, Gary Lancaster, Mark (???) - the editor of the fanzine HUH!, and I shared a room. Dean Sweatman FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@att.net To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 7:17 am Subject: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom I'm working on a visual history of Houston fandom in the 60s and 70s and am looking for material I might not have: fanzines, photos, personal rememberances, et cetera. In addition to my own long held collection I have the voluminous holdings of Ken Donnell (the official Houston printer) as well material from the estates of Walter Irwin & Willie Patterson. If anyone has anything they'd be willing to share, please let me know. Thanks, Anthony Smith ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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He is still around, on Facebook in fact.= =C2=A0 I attended the first meeting of the Houston club as well as all of t= he first 10 years of shows. Great time to be in fandom here. =C2=A0 BTW, weren't you also a member of Capa-Alpha years and years ago? =C2=A0 A --- On Wed, 8/1/12, Dean Sweatman wrote: From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 7:39 AM =C2=A0=20 My only association to Houston fandom was the 1968 comic con. There was a p= hoto page in an issue of Star Studded Comics of some of those that attended= . It was my first con. I took the bus from New Orleans to attend, Gary Lancas= ter, Mark (???) - the editor of the fanzine HUH!, and I shared a room. Dean Sweatman FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@att.net To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 7:17 am Subject: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom I'm working on a visual history of Houston fandom in the 60s and 70s and am= =20 looking for material I might not have: fanzines, photos, personal remembera= nces,=20 et cetera. In addition to my own long held collection I have the voluminous= =20 holdings of Ken Donnell (the official Houston printer) as well material fro= m the=20 estates of Walter Irwin & Willie Patterson. If anyone has anything they'd b= e=20 willing to share, please let me know. Thanks, Anthony Smith ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Burbank396@netscape.net Thu Aug 02 09:37:56 2012 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 62283 invoked by uid 7800); 2 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0000 X-Sender: burbank396@netscape.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94169 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2012 16:16:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Aug 2012 16:16:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imr-ma06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.78.142) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2012 16:16:15 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q72GGCwd017697 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:16:12 -0400 X-Received: from core-mpd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mpd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.169.81]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B13E9E000088 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:16:12 -0400 (EDT) References: <1343919085.24847.YahooMailClassic@web181204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1343919085.24847.YahooMailClassic@web181204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-PHONE X-Received: from 98.178.194.99 by webmail-d028.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.88) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:16:12 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF3EE144B91852-1484-540E@webmail-d028.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:16:12 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:502670528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb501aa7cc3377 X-Originating-IP: 64.12.78.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: Re: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78444571; y=iei7ukP1LT7VfKCuBxD4fxAxt6jwtlDEHFjFCjB05wnXEQCDXg X-Yahoo-Profile: burbank396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 2 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0000 Yeah that was me. It was 1969 or 1970. I was a real neo. Thought that I could avoid the draft and play with the big boys. Neither worked out to well.(g) By the time I was in I was fair game for the draft board and figured that what the heck I'd go out with a bang. Produced a couple of crud zines and got tossed out about the time I got sent to Fort Polk for basic training. Dean FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@att.net To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 5:51 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom You are thinking of Mark Lamberti. He is still around, on Facebook in fact. I attended the first meeting of the Houston club as well as all of the first 10 years of shows. Great time to be in fandom here. BTW, weren't you also a member of Capa-Alpha years and years ago? A --- On Wed, 8/1/12, Dean Sweatman wrote: From: Dean Sweatman Subject: Re: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 7:39 AM My only association to Houston fandom was the 1968 comic con. There was a photo page in an issue of Star Studded Comics of some of those that attended. It was my first con. I took the bus from New Orleans to attend, Gary Lancaster, Mark (???) - the editor of the fanzine HUH!, and I shared a room. Dean Sweatman FIAWOL -----Original Message----- From: a.f.smith@att.net To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 7:17 am Subject: [cbzines] History of Houston Fandom I'm working on a visual history of Houston fandom in the 60s and 70s and am looking for material I might not have: fanzines, photos, personal rememberances, et cetera. In addition to my own long held collection I have the voluminous holdings of Ken Donnell (the official Houston printer) as well material from the estates of Walter Irwin & Willie Patterson. If anyone has anything they'd be willing to share, please let me know. Thanks, Anthony Smith ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jameshburns@webtv.net Mon Aug 06 08:48:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Sender: jameshburns@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19893 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2012 15:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m14.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2012 15:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc3-s32.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.171) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2012 15:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from SNT125-DS19 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s32.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:48:50 -0700 X-EIP: [4FV/eKqvUFFaL6c6Tv9zZFu3BwNZ6Hzj] X-Originating-Email: [jameshburns@webtv.net] Message-ID: Return-Path: jameshburns@webtv.net To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:48:50 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2012 15:48:50.0879 (UTC) FILETIME=[F97BBCF0:01CD73EA] X-Originating-IP: 65.55.90.171 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jim Burns Subject: My Gotham Nights X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 Well, some of them. ;-) This piece has an interesting history. When I woke up the morning after the Colorado movie theatre nightmare, I wrote a few of my short op-ed pieces for the local papers; an immediate response. Two ran in NEWSDAY, and THE DAILY NEWS... (My perhaps odd habit, of letters-type stuff.) But to my surprise, when I put the three together, they seemed to flow, seamlessly. My only worry was that somehow it might seem cold, not concerned about the greatest victims of the tragedy. I emailed a few friends and associates, who confirmed that my concern for those fallen was indeed implicit. In most ways, this is about the actual magic our super heroes can have, and some very simple measures that can be taken-- And may have some value, in that some ways, these points stil haven't been made elsewhere. Best, Jim Aurora http://www.tvparty.com/comics/batman-aurora.html From greene68@yahoo.com Mon Aug 06 17:35:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Sender: greene68@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29596 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2012 00:35:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.162) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2012 00:35:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nm9-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.169) by mta6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2012 00:35:46 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 00:35:46 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 00:35:46 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 00:35:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 639545.70446.bm@omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 80317 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2012 00:35:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UUZg1AkVM1m.CZVfgiAusi93vFyT89xqucwalZ4YO5SHwIx pm5bz4YZsD3xTeotveERu5jEc.XSTql4ZA0pbCr30st1LB0Xj.zwBxiG9zmB UxDhOXevhBBCP4aFbNbbhWUVBbXfM1TfJTH8MivLLBvORDZk8I.l9VtOUYqS _V05nH5SDxDL2QhL3pU5LjeF_U9MRX592r3YHhLmfp8d8Bo1_y2FaYH.zBaR MmvZbr4K3ub_IYbJTKeFihtf1FOh._gUWYmUGECPRrLu9fuGpxdMKVdOJ2Rb QAKrB3wTAAfL9g5UxgTdkGZfC9GvXirqjNvKHdUiuP9pRhWEVQGhULIOrUzZ vzHUaO2BlQIs9ZvU9AgzWZZtGbq6QnLOWrP782qjJuCrvO3VNsCmsmy5W4X. kAi22sYETeibpxAQ9TpGdRvS9DEB62zQBdZ7rDFfV8_A.iaTCQYAfUHiKfMY DG6fn6bTWyfXAkoMzt4nb0fLw_fYjV_Ys9mmLEt8xkjur.OZt9ZngzyS2oIu H6ioy2FD5DSlkeuVYZHtVbzRcLAYy0pEAKWt4S7AO6JDv1X1TqOF6g5G_Gox gKB9oBM0LgAMWuNERwxq4vsDtAg0UTwoOG7ZP4SWJZifD.BHe6wboDMYyRZQ 5_uDAIVQ8PyiOWtXasZQgtTJSOkn0yvrStg7fZ04tZE0.TKUdlfLUPOFezQi 2MCiDpBwP4SJI2qtFYxHe6viWaeuccLDkgZt0hqxLMRJ6xGeq37j7FpAf7tD GLn4OcJ_zDi7rize_4zb6mfnxbDnDYUo56KbwkMdAryLmizdR1G6lue0OB4K 5kkKiRzVfKWpM2tGl6vIrUZH1B1fN..XjJKmLGL0N4FFU.cPHytw2srlZjHd kR7pThOIybCEyGA3QGZKrNIWNEhxyradTjetPCs7REbJm9XoV5H11njhVf.x 8SylkCojbmmk.61OzdJZwIr3AJjfvqrr.sO5nyhDn4SWyYjuEDHkxysA9Ewm GCa14kVFgPRdHDo0AAcdjnuCUhhtHEAnHJcVzONG6sVQfpYnB4KAjWvWNhfa zeCmI0Qj2z2IQNh5z4Wqvr6VUL2wxL0soS_RXsT15PLYL.4a2iYv8Os7_6Hr riBNOKQdw.sn_1x0cLpDl2uqukpjPmgrN5JFElkeHqKUWuzdOfTInHjsuJOv 1HZJ0p58w9vTslUBghh0c7_.XLS46BPrpT3vtg0.hXWxSsTsjGUV9iaev3tI pv3LVna9N4CCj8s7hpqZUAobZURnd1PnZ4E6ILRgqfosxRYjjA7agwmhHBYG rXQrh5kPv6sErGpGfX4ICOHjQ0SBcuuzFWzqY6kMD12XS2E04DDAIo5zqwd6 TKq3cRhys4tJcB1nEcWZ4SJR3nOELpI9rhjehc2rJ9_J9XorBOuPQZRw3Dbh 291sW71TLUgApznvJJlHNbxIdz6e2QfCz.610yp_315ZsrgSKaHaPPE..50Y GmKCtesUM.twcIGXarOIz5ia30IeWrzq_8BN_Q2vBq5.G7KaqOFn2ePfmqFU QH.QS5rgS8l0j9Hm0IH64nW9wVcDLSEbXCXFcs9jTKZMJmPkeBIV6fwEm6pY VXIdtv_.CtGQDXa9COCuOQrYyIe.TT9MCi9__kxWCYIv6ObhPLapQSvphMH8 jswkaADDd4m9CQaqKn0IG.ZfH66EPJh1EIGkyZWOAohGoeSUEoF.tFjKaQ2j dmF4eBcF1PMRSSo59oANUf0tVj2WXLHHqRf5HUVSF.Rsc_cuo.MeDNpOdb_b vXqKPwSajUYBi855nH.g_q_gZDIJQt0S38U3UdUo6XxG6GD2X0FbrSyvXO58 76Dosh.wnBU9yZ77YN0o.TisnuRUapkN3QeROjIhc.iJQ3u.ERkCgtyaPaMw 1qdwew9qm4QvogAQEc.TO._9GF6ICkwVkeUy1S5cB9slKTKW.5fsbXi.3HCh qgg8Vmc0lrQj5hGt_2tbxXqAsQj0tyGt.T.Og4LMvA_.YgiwPzrQyyzEo9dc k_IDI7oS6YQKSlbhaQGI7RC3ByI..DePqYHh0i0dSzSYSaYQJM6nZuP41r51 mmGhQmwubfwwjImjgwPDjQWWtaeRr X-Received: from [99.34.128.186] by web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:35:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344299746.75135.YahooMailClassic@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:35:46 -0700 (PDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 98.138.91.169 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Robert K. Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] My Gotham Nights X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=oKHD0idJZAPiqrDx-mYOY0xVuKgofgs834nf7lIPeB6ZwcQ X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good commentary. Too bad that it might come to this. --- On Mon, 8/6/12, Jim Burns wrote: From: Jim Burns Subject: [cbzines] My Gotham Nights To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 11:48 AM =C2=A0 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 Well, some of them.=20 ;-)=20 This piece has an interesting history. When I woke up the morning after the Colorado movie theatre nightmare, I wrote a few of my short op-ed pieces for the local papers; an immediate response. Two ran in NEWSDAY, and THE DAILY NEWS... (My perhaps odd habit, of letters-type stuff.)=20 But to my surprise, when I put the three together, they seemed to flow, seamlessly.=20 My only worry was that somehow it might seem cold, not concerned about the greatest victims of the tragedy. I emailed a few friends and associates, who confirmed that my concern for those fallen was indeed implicit.=20 In most ways, this is about the actual magic our super heroes can have, and some very simple measures that can be taken--=20 And may have some value, in that some ways, these points stil haven't been made elsewhere.=20 Best, Jim=20 Aurora=20 http://www.tvparty.com/comics/batman-aurora.html=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robimes@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 08:51:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Sender: robimes@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52577 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2012 16:51:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.160) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2012 16:51:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng9-ip1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.215.180) by mta4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 16:51:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.138.217.178] by ng9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 16:51:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by tg3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 16:51:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:51:29 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.14.97.193 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.14.97.193 From: "robimes" Subject: Tetragrammaton Fragments #225 released this week! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125545818; y=kA87fo4EIcTH7XLz6Lkfnw1dbtcFEnnbgJM4iFS5J0ZUzg X-Yahoo-Profile: robimes Hi folks, The new issue (#225) of Tetragrammaton Fragments ("T-Frags" for short), has= been released!=20=20 T-Frags is the Official Newsletter of the United Fanzine Organization (UFO)= , a long-running comics co-op of which I was recently elected Chairman. The= zine is published by the UFO Chairman every other month and contains colum= ns by the members reviewing memberzines and discussing club business, with = the occasional illustration and news about their own titles.=20=20 I was recently elected Chairman of the UFO, and printed up the new issue of= T-Frags on Monday. Only 100 copies of TF #225 were printed, and already I= 've mailed out 56 copies. 35 copies of the issue are available right now o= n eBay at http://www.ebay.com/sch/rimes12/m.html The UFO is interested in gaining new members, particularly those who are re= gularly publishing zines right now, since one of the main purposes of the g= roup is for members to trade their zines with each other and offer feedback= on them.=20=20 There are some old "official" UFO websites out there on the web, since ever= y time a new Chairman was elected, he'd start his own site for it, which le= ads to some confusion. To rectify that this time, I'm using the same websi= te that Steve used for the group for the past two years. The URL of the cu= rrent Official UFO website is at=20 http://unitedfanzineorganization.weebly.com/ There, interested folks can read the UFO Constitution (which explains the r= ules of the group and how it operates), the UFO member list (with contact i= nfo for each), view the cover of the current issue of T-Frags and find out = how to order a copy of the zine. (It costs $2.50 postpaid in the USA.) Thanks, Rob Imes UFO Chairman robimes@yahoo.com From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sat May 18 06:11:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10230 invoked by uid 102); 18 May 2013 13:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 13:11:52 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22941 invoked from network); 18 May 2013 13:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng15-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.187) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 13:11:52 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.86] by ng15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2013 13:11:51 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.94.41] by tg6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2013 13:11:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 13:11:51 -0000 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 70.32.203.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 70.32.203.3 From: "CAPTN G" Subject: Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=MdXHf6dnNevUXDRWdtePMKGVbi0wZBRjXARK7u0ja0zuYk_fcWemXoY X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have been t= rying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing well. Thanks Guy E. Sparkman=20 From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sat May 18 08:08:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59953 invoked by uid 102); 18 May 2013 15:08:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:08:14 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 11619 invoked from network); 18 May 2013 15:08:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-bk0-f51.google.com) (209.85.214.51) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:08:14 -0000 X-Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ji2so2875245bkc.38 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.38.3 with SMTP id tg3mr17097819bkb.66.1368889693788; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.50.130 with HTTP; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 10:08:13 -0500 Message-ID: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=_1XccMJYdfxLegKdoamhVwAbYtzKMHTe7LZPvDyBLtnFTYnTlw X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't heard from him in years. Ric Croxton On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G wrote: > ** > > > Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have been > trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing well. > Thanks Guy E. Sparkman > >=20=20 > --=20 "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sat May 18 08:12:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67837 invoked by uid 102); 18 May 2013 15:12:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:12:43 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8521 invoked from network); 18 May 2013 15:12:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO blu0-omc3-s10.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.85) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:12:43 -0000 X-Received: from BLU405-EAS65 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 May 2013 08:12:43 -0700 X-EIP: [eiU6LqksfHKGljZWOr64m75vtdIVqnVD] X-Originating-Email: [sparkmang@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: sparkmang@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 11:12:42 -0400 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2013 15:12:43.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[257AE4F0:01CE53DA] X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=iHbKrxCL12XjI1gCPzC7Y3fu80N7xStOAUgNkfD5_yUAfls2pF-m_gw X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi Ric would you by chance have a copy of Spotlite #3? I have been looking = for it since 2000 and I think Gord had one. What I want is the Dimension Ma= n comic strip I have every one but this one=20 Thanks Guy=20 Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrote: > I haven't heard from him in years. >=20 > Ric Croxton >=20 >=20 > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G wrote: >=20 >> ** >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have been >> trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing well= . >> Thanks Guy E. Sparkman >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things > like food and clothes." >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------ >=20 > Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 >=20 From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sat May 18 08:31:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57150 invoked by uid 102); 18 May 2013 15:31:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m8.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:31:35 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 24104 invoked from network); 18 May 2013 15:31:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-bk0-f53.google.com) (209.85.214.53) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:31:34 -0000 X-Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id mx1so488472bkb.40 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.225.209 with SMTP id it17mr17233299bkb.17.1368891094133; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.50.130 with HTTP; Sat, 18 May 2013 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 10:31:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=hGBVb6wpKLWR-vomajMZ9q3pnakfR71bbo_ppuh6sK6VPEYBpg X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll look when I get back home this evening. Ric On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, guy sparkman wrote= : > ** > > > Hi Ric would you by chance have a copy of Spotlite #3? I have been lookin= g > for it since 2000 and I think Gord had one. What I want is the Dimension > Man comic strip I have every one but this one > Thanks Guy > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrote= : > > > I haven't heard from him in years. > > > > Ric Croxton > > > > > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have be= en > >> trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing > well. > >> Thanks Guy E. Sparkman > > > > > > > > -- > > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant thin= gs > > like food and clothes." > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >=20=20 > --=20 "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sat May 18 08:34:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59054 invoked by uid 102); 18 May 2013 15:34:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:34:05 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 13061 invoked from network); 18 May 2013 15:34:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO blu0-omc3-s15.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.90) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2013 15:34:05 -0000 X-Received: from BLU402-EAS126 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 18 May 2013 08:34:06 -0700 X-EIP: [UtdADFAzXlaeMoDVtmcf3dxB4IivkYUe] X-Originating-Email: [sparkmang@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: sparkmang@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 11:32:46 -0400 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2013 15:34:06.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[21DB96C0:01CE53DD] X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=z0oR7ZVvxYcSDZpm37o3Kx7V9GhgCbc14hwBjG1V9Cu5uzw5OuSH-AY X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Thanks more then you can believe Guy Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrote: > I'll look when I get back home this evening. >=20 > Ric >=20 >=20 > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, guy sparkman wro= te: >=20 >> ** >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi Ric would you by chance have a copy of Spotlite #3? I have been looki= ng >> for it since 2000 and I think Gord had one. What I want is the Dimension >> Man comic strip I have every one but this one >> Thanks Guy >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On May 18, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrot= e: >>=20 >>> I haven't heard from him in years. >>>=20 >>> Ric Croxton >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G wrote: >>>=20 >>>> ** >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have be= en >>>> trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing >> well. >>>> Thanks Guy E. Sparkman >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant thin= gs >>> like food and clothes." >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------ >>>=20 >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things > like food and clothes." >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------ >=20 > Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 >=20 From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun May 19 09:04:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14599 invoked by uid 102); 19 May 2013 16:04:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.36) by m2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 16:04:34 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8378 invoked from network); 19 May 2013 16:04:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-bk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 16:04:34 -0000 X-Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id je9so3130527bkc.18 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.228.136 with SMTP id je8mr17849125bkb.93.1368979473365; Sun, 19 May 2013 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.50.130 with HTTP; Sun, 19 May 2013 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 11:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=pGB3EiXf5C01MxZDvjKtDaE_K7OB6tRz2y9zWkoGDC2tyAWE6A X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I checked through my fanzines and I don't have that issue, sorry. Ric On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM, guy sparkman wrote= : > ** > > > Thanks more then you can believe Guy > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrote= : > > > I'll look when I get back home this evening. > > > > Ric > > > > > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, guy sparkman >wrote: > > > >> ** > > >> > >> > >> Hi Ric would you by chance have a copy of Spotlite #3? I have been > looking > >> for it since 2000 and I think Gord had one. What I want is the Dimensi= on > >> Man comic strip I have every one but this one > >> Thanks Guy > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On May 18, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Ric Croxton" > wrote: > >> > >>> I haven't heard from him in years. > >>> > >>> Ric Croxton > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G > wrote: > >>> > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have > been > >>>> trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing > >> well. > >>>> Thanks Guy E. Sparkman > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant > things > >>> like food and clothes." > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant thin= gs > > like food and clothes." > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >=20=20 > --=20 "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sun May 19 10:13:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29466 invoked by uid 102); 19 May 2013 17:13:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.36) by m12.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 17:13:58 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 21792 invoked from network); 19 May 2013 17:13:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO blu0-omc3-s6.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.81) by mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 17:13:58 -0000 X-Received: from BLU405-EAS72 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 May 2013 10:13:10 -0700 X-EIP: [at45biltElh59NSXv94PA6EqceZqfFgF] X-Originating-Email: [sparkmang@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: sparkmang@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:13:09 -0400 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2013 17:13:10.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[233BA140:01CE54B4] X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Gord Green X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=BEy49v3H-onHH9T_MqBHoXp6_Eo7hzV3Wye2Z0tdpd58xX2aRoqBv-A X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Hi Ric thanks for checking Guy Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2013, at 12:05 PM, "Ric Croxton" wrote: > I checked through my fanzines and I don't have that issue, sorry. >=20 > Ric >=20 >=20 > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM, guy sparkman wro= te: >=20 >> ** >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks more then you can believe Guy >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Ric Croxton" wrot= e: >>=20 >>> I'll look when I get back home this evening. >>>=20 >>> Ric >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, guy sparkman >> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> ** >>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Ric would you by chance have a copy of Spotlite #3? I have been >> looking >>>> for it since 2000 and I think Gord had one. What I want is the Dimensi= on >>>> Man comic strip I have every one but this one >>>> Thanks Guy >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>=20 >>>> On May 18, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Ric Croxton" >> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I haven't heard from him in years. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Ric Croxton >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, CAPTN G >> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> ** >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi was wondering if any had heard anything from Gord Green . I have >> been >>>>>> trying to get in touch with him but got no answer. Hope he is doing >>>> well. >>>>>> Thanks Guy E. Sparkman >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant >> things >>>>> like food and clothes." >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>=20 >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant thin= gs >>> like food and clothes." >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------ >>>=20 >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things > like food and clothes." >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------ >=20 > Yahoo! Groups Links >=20 >=20 >=20 From ric.croxton@gmail.com Sun May 19 11:45:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: ric.croxton@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98657 invoked by uid 102); 19 May 2013 18:45:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:45:48 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 16603 invoked from network); 19 May 2013 18:45:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-bk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:45:48 -0000 X-Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id je9so3163980bkc.18 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.200.71 with SMTP id ev7mr6977345bkb.27.1368989147907; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.50.130 with HTTP; Sun, 19 May 2013 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:45:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ric Croxton Subject: Skunkman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=E9qfFfhQ_pxcEci6NOSXsbGcmQoCnCAXgVseZRymv6Ihka22tQ X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been looking for a hardback for several years I once saw in a library about fanzines. I remember there being a one page origin story of Skunkman. Does anyone know the name and writer of the book? Thanks in advance. Ric -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sparkmang@hotmail.com Sun May 19 11:53:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: sparkmang@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55074 invoked by uid 102); 19 May 2013 18:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m3.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:53:42 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 24137 invoked from network); 19 May 2013 18:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO blu0-omc3-s11.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.86) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from BLU402-EAS178 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 May 2013 11:53:42 -0700 X-EIP: [4yPltdzV3OqCuGBm+reXVm815yyYRuLk] X-Originating-Email: [sparkmang@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: sparkmang@hotmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 14:53:38 -0400 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2013 18:53:42.0207 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E9294F0:01CE54C2] X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: guy sparkman Subject: Re: [cbzines] Skunkman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=98366449; y=d5lV-V_6hxvy_n7eK5fkamkoT-Ez6lammr2sCTKsMv1irZes5VCjr1k X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkplugger23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ric I have never seen the book but and information you get please pass o= n to me and if I come across it ill do the same=0D Thank you Guy E. Sparkman=0D =0D Sent from my iPhone=0D =0D On May 19, 2013, at 2:45 PM, "Ric Croxton" wrote:= =0D =0D > I've been looking for a hardback for several years I once saw in a librar= y=0D > about fanzines. I remember there being a one page origin story of Skunkma= n.=0D > Does anyone know the name and writer of the book? Thanks in advance.=0D > =0D > Ric=0D > =0D > -- =0D > "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things= =0D > like food and clothes."=0D > =0D > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]=0D > =0D > =0D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Jimvanhise@aol.com Sun May 19 11:56:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20082 invoked by uid 102); 19 May 2013 18:56:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:56:38 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 30669 invoked from network); 19 May 2013 18:56:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omr-d01.mx.aol.com) (205.188.252.208) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2013 18:56:38 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C8EFE700544C1 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 14:56:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from core-med003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.9]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 91CBCE000081 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 14:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: Jimvanhise Message-ID: <9caef.6dce977d.3eca7a66@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 14:56:38 -0400 (EDT) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:314021312:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b519920667d49 X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Skunkman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only hardcover book about fanzines I can imagine was ever in a library would be Fredric Wertham's The World of Fanzines which was published in the early 1970s. In fact it's hard to find a hardcover copy of this which isn't an ex-lib. 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Greene" Subject: Re: [cbzines] Skunkman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330728190; y=eO28SZ2bPgVE8cpb843fUWpAiV8nwFoO-n1HtbIyQZZU5Gc X-Yahoo-Profile: greene68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Schelly is the foremost comics fandom historian. --- On Sun, 5/19/13, Ric Croxton wrote: From: Ric Croxton Subject: [cbzines] Skunkman To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013, 2:45 PM =C2=A0 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 I've been looking for a hardback for several years I once saw in a li= brary about fanzines. I remember there being a one page origin story of Skunkman. Does anyone know the name and writer of the book? Thanks in advance. Ric --=20 "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." 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[108.162.189.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a1sm765476igo.0.2014.01.23.12.41.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:41:11 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) Message-Id: <663FF4CE-3B8B-4243-8207-01AE8D23A51B@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:41:14 -0500 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Murray Moore Subject: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=460105601; y=QtdRMkSQJB7uxaZfQTLqEDBqdmuJKGPhOKSVHmaFWMWgB4ll X-Yahoo-Profile: murrayraj X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 24 Jan 2014 01:24:39 -0000 Hello All. In the Photo section of this group I have added a photo of a piece by Wrigh= tson about which I have no information. It comes from the estate of a dead = friend. I am helping his widow. Its look is early Bernie Wrightson. I wonder if it was published in one of = the comic book fanzines of the 1970s which were heavy in art, art by up-and= -comers like Wrightson who went on to pro careers; or might it have been pu= blished in a low budget magazine like Monsters and Heroes? Or perhaps it has not been published. My friend mainly attended SF conventi= ons in the Midwest; he might have purchased it at a SF convention art show= . The art is 12" by 16". P. S. On the back is a note to reduce to 8.5 x 11, the size of a regular si= ze fanzine, strongly suggesting this piece of artwork has been published. /\/\ Murray Who sent this Tuesday apparently without that version being delivered, so t= rying again From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jan 23 17:27:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9770 invoked by uid 102); 24 Jan 2014 01:27:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m13.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 01:27:25 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 18526 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 01:27:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omr-m09.mx.aol.com) (64.12.143.82) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 01:27:25 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.144]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1ADA570000082 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:27:25 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from core-mee001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.65]) by mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D6DB138000081 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:27:24 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Jimvanhise Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:27:24 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ea6f7.75146574.40131b81_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 271 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade9052e1c17c10bb X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 --part1_ea6f7.75146574.40131b81_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please send me a link to this art. Yahoo hasn't worked right for me for a long time. I apparently don't have the right password and there is nothing on their site that enables me to retrieve or change my password. I've never encountered a website like that. -- James Van Hise --part1_ea6f7.75146574.40131b81_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please send me a link to this art. Yahoo hasn't worked right for me fo= r a=20 long time. I apparently don't have the right password and there is nothing = on=20 their site that enables me to retrieve or change my password. I've never=20 encountered a website like that. -- James Van Hise
 --part1_ea6f7.75146574.40131b81_boundary-- From msquare58@yahoo.com Thu Jan 23 19:41:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Sender: msquare58@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24970 invoked by uid 102); 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 15108 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n7-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (72.30.234.86) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 X-Received: from [72.30.235.66] by n7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 X-Received: from [10.193.75.124] by t3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 Date: 23 Jan 2014 19:41:11 -0800 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2014 03:41:11 -0000 To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" X-Originating-IP: 207.53.194.203 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 207.53.194.203 From: Subject: RE: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386867558; y=8WAsavorV1Av8qUc_YVprtBKksPL_pBFrVlD8Dehn6Hl7Vh9 X-Yahoo-Profile: msquare58 --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 VGhlcmUgaXMgYSBCZXJuaWUgV3JnaHRzb24gZmFuIHBhZ2Ugb24gZmFjZSBib29rLiBJIGNh biBwb3N0IGl0IHRoZXJlIGFuZCBzZWUgaWYgYW55b25lIGtub3dzIGFib3V0IGl0IC4gVG8g bWUgaXQgbG9va3MgbGlrZSBhIHZlcnkgZWFybHkgcGllY2Uu --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 VGhlcmUgaXMgYSBCZXJuaWUgV3JnaHRzb24gZmFuIHBhZ2Ugb24gZmFjZSBib29rLiBJIGNh biBwb3N0IGl0IHRoZXJlIGFuZCBzZWUgaWYgYW55b25lIGtub3dzIGFib3V0IGl0IC4gVG8g bWUgaXQgbG9va3MgbGlrZSBhIHZlcnkgZWFybHkgcGllY2Uu --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV-- From Jimvanhise@aol.com Thu Jan 23 19:44:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Sender: Jimvanhise@aol.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80451 invoked by uid 102); 24 Jan 2014 03:44:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.143) by m17.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 03:44:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 3099 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 03:44:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omr-d02.mx.aol.com) (205.188.109.194) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 03:44:24 -0000 X-Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F12CF7000009F for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:44:23 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from core-mee001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.65]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CA68838000083 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:44:23 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Jimvanhise Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:44:23 -0500 (EST) To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c7f5e.1c3c0108.40133b97_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 271 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b052e1e197081d X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com Subject: Re: [cbzines] RE: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 --part1_c7f5e.1c3c0108.40133b97_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked in the book BERNI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK which covers his career and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) that drawing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact Wrightson directly? -- Jim Van Hise --part1_c7f5e.1c3c0108.40133b97_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I looked in the book BERNI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK  which covers hi= s=20 career and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) tha= t=20 drawing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact Wrightson= =20 directly? -- Jim Van Hise
 --part1_c7f5e.1c3c0108.40133b97_boundary-- From murrayamoore@gmail.com Fri Jan 24 04:20:40 2014 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22867 invoked by uid 7800); 24 Jan 2014 12:20:40 -0000 X-Sender: murrayamoore@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59383 invoked by uid 102); 24 Jan 2014 05:38:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 05:38:09 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8072 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 05:38:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ig0-f178.google.com) (209.85.213.178) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 05:38:09 -0000 X-Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id uq10so1663292igb.5 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.78.229 with SMTP id e5mr2700012igx.49.1390541889651; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([108.162.189.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hi7sm5227545igb.9.2014.01.23.21.38.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:38:09 -0800 (PST) References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9F096AC8-F850-4C3E-8CF7-50CF27D8D882 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5E42CEF3-329E-4922-BB4F-5DE1A30E5228@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:38:13 -0500 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Murray Moore Subject: Re: [cbzines] RE: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=460105601; y=E0mRtJMqMcmuaGcOuYI1uF-6tEDjne06APAC1Tgo1D7vkoHf X-Yahoo-Profile: murrayraj X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 24 Jan 2014 12:20:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9F096AC8-F850-4C3E-8CF7-50CF27D8D882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have sent the image to the Wrightson web site. No response, so far. /\/\ Murray Moore SFContario, Toronto's fall SF convention November 14-16, 2014 Ramada Plaza Toronto,=20 http://sfcontario.ca , email con2014@sfcontario.ca > On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote: >=20 > I looked in the book BERNI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK which covers his career= and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) that draw= ing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact Wrightson dire= ctly? -- Jim Van Hise --Apple-Mail-9F096AC8-F850-4C3E-8CF7-50CF27D8D882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have sent the image to the = Wrightson web site. No response, so far.

/\/\
Murray Moore
SFContario, Toronto's fall SF convention
November 14-16, 201= 4 Ramada Plaza Toronto, 
http://sfcontario.ca , email <= a href=3D"mailto:con2014@sfcontario.ca" x-apple-data-detectors=3D"true" x-a= pple-data-detectors-type=3D"link" x-apple-data-detectors-result=3D"2">con20= 14@sfcontario.ca

On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:44 P= M, Jimvanhise@aol.com wrote:
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I looked in the book BERNI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK  which co= vers his=20 career and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) tha= t=20 drawing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact Wrightson= =20 directly? -- Jim Van Hise
--Apple-Mail-9F096AC8-F850-4C3E-8CF7-50CF27D8D882-- From murrayamoore@gmail.com Fri Jan 24 04:20:54 2014 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13056 invoked by uid 7800); 24 Jan 2014 12:20:53 -0000 X-Sender: murrayamoore@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32672 invoked by uid 102); 24 Jan 2014 05:36:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.36) by m7.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 05:36:52 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22724 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2014 05:36:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ig0-f175.google.com) (209.85.213.175) by mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2014 05:36:52 -0000 X-Received: by mail-ig0-f175.google.com with SMTP id uq10so1666334igb.2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:36:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.123.199 with SMTP id t7mr9117519icr.45.1390541811892; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:36:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([108.162.189.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t4sm6524194igm.10.2014.01.23.21.36.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:36:51 -0800 (PST) References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7A64A884-02AF-41A8-9F6B-5DCE8425DCD3 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:36:55 -0500 To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Murray Moore Subject: Re: [cbzines] RE: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=460105601; y=3RNjyOANxmpsGAMwYwCuLP1eX2kec_fVGjf-pUV7iEfw5UMl X-Yahoo-Profile: murrayraj X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 24 Jan 2014 12:20:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail-7A64A884-02AF-41A8-9F6B-5DCE8425DCD3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please do. /\/\ Murray Moore SFContario, Toronto's fall SF convention November 14-16, 2014 Ramada Plaza Toronto,=20 http://sfcontario.ca , email con2014@sfcontario.ca > On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:41 PM, wrote: >=20 > There is a Bernie Wrghtson fan page on face book. I can post it there and= see if anyone knows about it . To me it looks like a very early piece. --Apple-Mail-7A64A884-02AF-41A8-9F6B-5DCE8425DCD3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please do.

/\/\
Murray Moore
SFContario, Toronto's fall SF convention
November= 14-16, 2014 Ramada Plaza Toronto, 
http://sfcontario.ca , e= mail con2014@sfcontario.ca

On Jan 23, 201= 4, at 10:41 PM, <msquare58@yahoo.= com> wrote:

 
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There is a Bernie Wrghtson fan page on face book. I can post it th= ere and see if anyone knows about it . To me it looks like a very early pie= ce.

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=188623139; y=4oloOY1m-LFw3EmuNg7Mt7nm-vKvetdKUd_B6TGMC1XSo-tF4w X-Yahoo-Profile: rjcroxton1 --bcaec52c5c4d71cba304f1fe4457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bernie Wrightson will be at the Little Rock, Arkansas convention on March 8. Ric Croxton On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, wrote: > > > I looked in the book BERNI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK which covers his > career and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) > that drawing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact > Wrightson directly? -- Jim Van Hise > > > -- "When I have money I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and clothes." --bcaec52c5c4d71cba304f1fe4457 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bernie Wrightson will be at the Little Rock, Arkansas= convention on March 8.

Ric Croxton


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I looked in the book BER= NI WRIGHTSON A LOOK BACK  which covers his=20 career and while it has a lot of his early art (though by no means all) tha= t=20 drawing doesn't appear there. Doesn't anyone know how to contact Wr= ightson=20 directly? -- Jim Van Hise

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"When I have money= I buy books, then I worry about the unimportant things like food and cloth= es." --bcaec52c5c4d71cba304f1fe4457-- From murrayamoore@gmail.com Sun Feb 09 17:09:12 2014 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98622 invoked by uid 7800); 10 Feb 2014 01:09:12 -0000 X-Sender: murrayamoore@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11606 invoked by uid 102); 9 Feb 2014 22:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.37) by m11.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2014 22:09:05 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 2300 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2014 22:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-oa0-f53.google.com) (209.85.219.53) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2014 22:09:05 -0000 X-Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id m1so6735106oag.12 for ; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:09:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.53.72 with SMTP id z8mr24034259obo.36.1391983745379; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.76.133.231 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:09:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5E42CEF3-329E-4922-BB4F-5DE1A30E5228@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:09:05 -0500 Message-ID: To: "comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0447f0eead31a504f20078ee X-Originating-IP: 10.193.84.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Murray Moore Subject: Re: [cbzines] RE: Wrightson art published in a fanzine? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=460105601; y=5v07Xk-upJz0jyr3ESFTF9dMx5B7csGSbHFlXgcjfIOMi__h X-Yahoo-Profile: murrayraj X-eGroups-Approved-By: blakebell37 via email; 10 Feb 2014 01:09:12 -0000 --f46d0447f0eead31a504f20078ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The information is indeed helpful, Mike. Makes sense. The owner, the late Mike Glicksohn, was a founder of the Ontario Science Fiction Club (OSFiC), in Toronto. Still unknown, and I expected forever unknowable, is how Mike acquired the artwork. The artwork will be offered for sale by The Beguiling at the Toronto comic store's booth during this year's Comic-Con. I might have a copy of the club magazine in which the artwork was published. I will remember to check my copies of the magazines as I sort my accumulation of fanzines. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM, wrote: > > > Hello Murray , > It took some time and continued asking. > > Someone on one of the Wrightson FB Pages was looking to find out where > this image came from...Wrightson Collectorfound it listed in The Berni Wrightson Treasury Book/Magazine. It looks > like the original image was from the ONTARIO SCIENCE FICTION CLUB MAGAZINE > from 1969... (4 photo > s). > Hope this helps . Kudos to Janson Howell and Rae Howell for coming up > with this information.. > > Also of note is the website www.wrightsonart.com . > > Hope this information helps > > Mike Shipley > _, > -- /\/\ Murray Moore SFContario 5, Toronto's fall SF convention Nov. 14 - Nov. 16, 2014, Ramada Plaza Toronto, http://sfcontario.ca --f46d0447f0eead31a504f20078ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The information is indeed helpful, Mike.

Makes sense. The owner, the late Mike Glicksohn, was a founder o= f the Ontario Science Fiction Club (OSFiC), in Toronto.

Still = unknown, and I expected forever unknowable, is how Mike acquired the artwor= k.

The artwork will be offered for sale by The Beguiling at the= Toronto comic store's booth during this year's Comic-Con.

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I might have a copy of the club magazine in which the artwork was= published. I will remember to check my copies of the magazines as I sort m= y accumulation of fanzines.


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM, <<= a href=3D"mailto:msquare58@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">msquare58@yahoo.com= > wrote:
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Hello Murray ,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 It took some time and continued ask= ing.

Someone on one of the Wrightson FB Pages was looki= ng to find out where this image came from...Wrightson Colle= ctor found it listed in The Berni Wrightson Treasury Book/Magazine. It=20 looks like the original image was from the ONTARIO SCIENCE FICTION CLUB=20 MAGAZINE from 1969... (4 photo= s).
=A0=A0=A0 Hope this helps . Kudos to Janson Howell and Rae Howel= l for coming up with this information..

Also of note is the website www.wrightsonart.com .

Hope this information helps

Mike Shipley

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7156151 X-Yahoo-Profile: jimburns1999 From: Jim Burns --_87da5ea0-e9d3-4bac-bbf6-550e690aea0c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics de= aler and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited distribu= tors... We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler was= still with us? Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventi= ons, and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we love... Thanks! Best, Jim > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > There is 1 message in this issue. >=20 > Topics in this digest: >=20 > 1. Gene Day Zines? > From: magilla445@aol.com >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Gene Day Zines? >=20 > In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 > comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >=20 >=20 > > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done > > in the mid-to-late '70s? >=20 > Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd.= =20 > Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style ha= d=20 > been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzines= ,=20 > mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba= ,=20 > Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Ge= ne=20 > Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I thin= k I=20 > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked = to=20 > Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something = to=20 > do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list wi= ll=20 > remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost= =20 > track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, then = kind=20 > of disappeared. >=20 > I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >=20 > Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > >=20 > >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ >=20 >=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! 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I was having a long chat the= other day with Ron Forman, long time comics dealer and one of the head hon= chos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited distributors...

We were talki= ng about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler was still wi= th us?

Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest = comic conventions,  and made other signigicant contributions to t= his medium we love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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> Date= : Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700
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> In a= message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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>
> > Does a= nyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done
> > in the m= id-to-late '70s?
>
> Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy = down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd.
> Damned good fan artist with a = lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style had
> been influenced by Steph= en Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzines,
> mostly about Rober= t E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba,
> Balik, were = a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Gene
> Day w= as buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I think I > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked= to
> Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had so= mething to
> do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-ti= mers on the list will
> remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever= became of Cliff Byrd? I lost
> track of him about 25 years ago. I = heard he went through a divorce, then kind
> of disappeared.
>
>= I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested.
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> Warm= est regards...Ron Frantz
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=pn_VVwFLHtZ95-4NRXTOfWxo-VeT0659hXbnIIJOsFOkhH4w X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey From: Aaron Caplan ----------MB_8D1D02ED1158290_7C20_A8C14_webmail-vm004.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one of = the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also to n= o avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, one in which Kaler dropped= out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambling debts, the other = more recently that he had passed away as a result of AIDS ... is there any = truth to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still = with us ... Aaron Caplan =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines] To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48 pm Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? =20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics de= aler and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited distribu= tors... We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler was= still with us? Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventi= ons, and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we love... Thanks! Best, Jim > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > There is 1 message in this issue. >=20 > Topics in this digest: >=20 > 1. Gene Day Zines? > From: magilla445@aol.com >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Gene Day Zines? >=20 > In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 > comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >=20 >=20 > > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done> > in the= mid-to-late '70s? >=20 > Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd.= =20 > Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style ha= d=20 > been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzines= ,=20 > mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba= ,=20 > Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Ge= ne=20 > Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I thin= k I=20 > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked = to=20 > Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something = to=20 > do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list wi= ll=20 > remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost= =20 > track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, then = kind=20 > of disappeared. > < br>> I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >=20 > Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > >=20 > >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ >=20 >=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/= =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20=09=09=20=09=20=20=20=09=09=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 ----------MB_8D1D02ED1158290_7C20_A8C14_webmail-vm004.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also to no avail. I've heard a number o= f bizarre stories, one in which Kaler dropped out of fandom in the late 80'= s because of major gambling debts, the other more recently that he had pass= ed away as a result of AIDS ... is there any truth = to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still with u= s ...

Aaron Caplan



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I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics de= aler and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited distribu= tors...

We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler was= still with us?

Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventi= ons,  and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we = love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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> From: magilla445@aol.com<= br> > Subject: Gene Day Zines?
>
> In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done&= gt; > in the mid-to-late '70s?
>
> Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. By= rd.
> Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style= had
> been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzi= nes,
> mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Si= mba,
> Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads.= Gene
> Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I t= hink I
> still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talk= ed to
> Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had somethi= ng to
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> remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lo= st
> track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, th= en kind
> of disappeared.
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=5992547 From: Jimvanhise@aol.com --part1_80f7a.490cb8d8.419acffe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Unfortunately it seems that most people who might have known are now=20=20 deceased (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas a= t=20=20 Alter Ego.--Jim Van Hise =20 =20 In a message dated 11/16/2014 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20=20 comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: =20 =20 =20 I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one of= =20 the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also to = =20 no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, one in which Kaler=20 dropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambling debts, th= e other=20 more recently that he had passed away as a result of AIDS ... is there any= =20 truth to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still= =20 with us ... Aaron Caplan -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines]=20=20 To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48 pm Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? =20 =20 =20 =20 I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics=20 dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited=20 distributors... We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler=20 was still with us? Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic=20 conventions, and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we = love... Thanks! Best, Jim > From: _comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com_=20 (mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com)=20 > To: _comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com_=20 (mailto:comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com)=20 > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > _comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com_=20 (mailto:comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com)=20 >=20=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20=20 > There is 1 message in this issue. >=20 > Topics in this digest: >=20 > 1. 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Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff.=20 Simba,=20 > Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads.=20 Gene=20 > Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I=20 think I=20 > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked= =20 to=20 > Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something= =20 to=20 > do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list=20 will=20=20 > remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost= =20 > track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, then= =20 kind=20 > of disappeared. > < br>> I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >=20 > Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/= =20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 --part1_80f7a.490cb8d8.419acffe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Unfortunately it seems that most people who might have known are now=20 deceased (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas a= t=20 Alter Ego.--Jim Van Hise
 
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I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler"= in one=20 of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also= to=20 no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, o= ne in=20 which Kaler dropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambl= ing=20 debts, the other more recently that he had passed away as a result of=20 AIDS ... is there any truth to either rumor? By now= , he'd=20 be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still with us ...

Aaron=20 Caplan




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Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

 = ;=20

I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman= , long=20 time comics dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics=20 Unlimited distributors...

We were talking about the old dsys, and = didn'=20 t know whether Dave Kaler was still with us?

Dave, of course, wrot= e for=20 Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventions,  and made = other=20 signigicant contributions to this medium we=20 love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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> Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His= =20 style had
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>= do=20 with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list will= =20
> remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd?= I=20 lost
> track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a= =20 divorce, then kind
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> < br>> I wil= l=20 look for those old fanzines, if you are interested.
>
> Warm= est=20 regards...Ron Frantz
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>
>
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I assume you tried Roy Thomas at Alte= r Ego.--Jim Van Hise =20 In a message dated 11/16/2014 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, comicbook= fanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: =20=20=20=20 =20=20 I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one o= f the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also to= no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, one in which Kaler d= ropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambling debts, th= e other more recently that he had passed away as a result of AIDS ... is = there any truth to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully= he's still with us ... Aaron Caplan =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines] To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48 pm Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? =20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics = dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited dist= ributors... We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler w= as still with us? Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conven= tions, and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we love= ... Thanks! Best, Jim > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20=20=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >=20=20=20 > There is 1 message in this issue. >=20 > Topics in this digest: >=20 > 1. Gene Day Zines? > From: magilla445@aol.com >=20 >=20=20=20 > _______________________________________________________________________= _ > _______________________________________________________________________= _ >=20=20=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Gene Day Zines? >=20 > In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 > comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >=20 >=20 > > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done> > in t= he mid-to-late '70s? >=20 > Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byr= d.=20=20=20 > Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style = had=20 > been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzin= es,=20 > mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Sim= ba,=20 > Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. = Gene=20 > Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I th= ink I=20 > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talke= d to=20 > Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had somethin= g to=20 > do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list = will=20=20=20 > remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost= =20 > track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, the= n kind=20 > of disappeared. > < br>> I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >=20 > Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________________________________= _ > _______________________________________________________________________= _ >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/= =20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 ----------MB_8D1D0426E258BAD_7C20_A9EDD_webmail-vm004.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Yes<= font size=3D"3">, I've tried Roy a few years ago ... he was Dave's room-mat= e for a few months in the 60's. But he hasn't heard from him since the 80's= . Bill Schelly also tried to find him a few years ago ... Bill writes in hi= s 2010 Founders of Comic Fandom that Dave's "current whereabouts and welfar= e are unknown."

The mystery deepens ...

Aaron


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To: comicbookfanzines <comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

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I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A= Kaler" in one=20 of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also= to=20 no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories,= one in=20 which Kaler dropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambl= ing=20 debts, the other more recently that he had passed away as a result of=20 AIDS ... is there any truth to either rumor? By n= ow, he'd=20 be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still with us ...

Aaron=20 Caplan

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I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long=20 time comics dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics=20 Unlimited distributors...

We were talking about the old dsys, and didn'=20 t know whether Dave Kaler was still with us?

Dave, of course, wrote for=20 Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventions,  and made = other=20 signigicant contributions to this medium we=20 love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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> > Does anyone have a list of the zines=20 Gene Day would have done> > in the mid-to-late '70s?
>
>=20 Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd.= =20
> Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His=20 style had
> been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published=20 a few fanzines,
> mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that=20 sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba,
> Balik, were a couple of the titles.=20 Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Gene
> Day was buddies with Cliff=20 and a regular contributor to his zines. I think I
> still have a few of=20 them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked to
> Day on the=20 phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something to
> do=20 with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list will= =20
> remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I=20 lost
> track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a=20 divorce, then kind
> of disappeared.
> < br>> I will=20 look for those old fanzines, if you are interested.
>
> Warmest=20 regards...Ron Frantz
> >
> >
>
>
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=373284133; y=IPZZMvLUZKDjW-IyOFbCR-2ABSTgO9tzaUGLL6kUeBCfVB6uayNpp3kbJMA X-Yahoo-Profile: a.f.smith@att.net From: Anthony Smith --1029272498-684082755-1416242683=:28769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My memory is a sometime thing but I am pretty sure I saw a death notice som= e years ago. (I'd take note of it since he is obliquely connected to Housto= n comic fandom in several ways.) If you haven't already I would try Maggie = Thompson and others from The Buyer's Guide. You might also try contacting L= ocus. While they cover SF primarily their obits section extends in other di= rections and they do note fandom and comic related passings. Good luck. A >________________________________ > From: "Aaron Caplan fugtussey1@aol.com [comicbookfanzines]" >To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com=20 >Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 11:56 PM >Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? >=20 > > >=20=20 >Yes, I've tried Roy a few years ago ... he was Dave's room-mate for a few = months in the 60's. But he hasn't heard from him since the 80's. Bill Schel= ly also tried to find him a few years ago ... Bill writes in his 2010 Found= ers of Comic Fandom that Dave's "current whereabouts and welfare are unknow= n." > > >The mystery deepens ... > >Aaron >=20 > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jimvanhise@aol.com [comicbookfanzines] >To: comicbookfanzines >Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 11:13 pm >Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? > > >=20=20 >Unfortunately it seems that most people who might have known are now=20 deceased (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas a= t=20 Alter Ego.--Jim Van Hise >=20 >In a message dated 11/16/2014 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, comicboo= kfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >=20=20 >>I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one = of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also t= o no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, one in which Kaler dr= opped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambling debts, the = other more recently that he had passed away as a result of AIDS... is ther= e any truth to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully he's= still with us ... >> >>Aaron=20 Caplan >>=20 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines] >>To: comicbookfanzines=20 >>Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48=20 pm >>Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? >> >> >>=20=20 >> >>I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long=20 time comics dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics=20 Unlimited distributors... >> >>We were talking about the old dsys, and didn'=20 t know whether Dave Kaler was still with us? >> >>Dave, of course, wrote for=20 Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventions, and made other=20 signigicant contributions to this medium we=20 love... >> >>Thanks! >> >>Best, Jim >> >>> From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >>>=20 To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com >>>=20 Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 >>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49=20 -0700 >>>=20 >>> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 >>>=20 >>> To=20 unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>=20 >>> There is 1 message in this issue. >>>=20 >>> Topics in this=20 digest: >>>=20 >>> 1. Gene Day Zines? >>> From: magilla445@aol.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 ________________________________________________________________________ >>>=20 ________________________________________________________________________ >>>=20 >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT >>> From: magilla445@aol.com >>> Subject: Gene=20 Day Zines? >>>=20 >>> In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific=20 Daylight Time,=20 >>> comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> > Does anyone have a list of the zines=20 Gene Day would have done> > in the mid-to-late '70s? >>>=20 >>>=20 Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byrd.= =20 >>> Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His=20 style had=20 >>> been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published=20 a few fanzines,=20 >>> mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that=20 sword-and-sorcery stuff. Simba,=20 >>> Balik, were a couple of the titles.=20 Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. Gene=20 >>> Day was buddies with Cliff=20 and a regular contributor to his zines. I think I=20 >>> still have a few of=20 them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talked to=20 >>> Day on the=20 phone once in this same time frame. It probably had something to=20 >>> do=20 with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list will= =20 >>> remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I=20 lost=20 >>> track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a=20 divorce, then kind=20 >>> of disappeared. >>> < br>> I will=20 look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >>>=20 >>> Warmest=20 regards...Ron Frantz >>> >=20 >>> >=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 ________________________________________________________________________ >>>=20 ________________________________________________________________________ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/term= s/=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >> > > > --1029272498-684082755-1416242683=:28769 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My memory is a sometime thing but I am pretty sure= I saw a death notice some years ago. (I'd take note of it since he is obli= quely connected to Houston comic fandom in several ways.) If you haven't al= ready I would try Maggie Thompson and others from The Buyer's Guide. You mi= ght also try contacting Locus. While they cover SF primarily their obits se= ction extends in other directions and they do note fandom and comic related= passings.

G= ood luck.
A



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To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups= .com
Sent: Sunday, No= vember 16, 2014 11:56 PM
Subject:= Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

 
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Yes, I've tried Roy a few years ago ... he was Dave= 's room-mate for a few months in the 60's. But he hasn't heard from him sin= ce the 80's. Bill Schelly also tried to find him a few years ago ... Bill w= rites in his 2010 Founders of Comic Fandom that Dave's "current whereabouts= and welfare are unknown."

The mystery deepens ...

Aaron


From: Jimvanhise@aol.com [comicbookfanzines] <comicbookfanzines@yahoogro= ups.com>
To: comicbookfanzines <comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

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Unfortunately it see= ms that most people who might have known are now=20 deceased (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas a= t=20 Alter Ego.--Jim Van Hise
 
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I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A= Kaler" in one=20 of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also= to=20 no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories,= one in=20 which Kaler dropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambl= ing=20 debts, the other more recently that he had passed away as a result of=20 AIDS ... is there any truth to either rumor? By n= ow, he'd=20 be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still with us ...

Aaron=20 Caplan

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From: Jim Burns ja= meshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines]=20 <comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com>
To: comicbookfanzines=20 <comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48=20 pm
Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

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I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long=20 time comics dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics=20 Unlimited distributors...

We were talking about the old dsys, and didn'=20 t know whether Dave Kaler was still with us?

Dave, of course, wrote for=20 Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventions,  and made = other=20 signigicant contributions to this medium we=20 love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=125974898; y=hSVC8N0Lcu_HRbLX6v1nFIQrC42RIfEJHVBSvJsfGWGyYXhX X-Yahoo-Profile: fugtussey From: Aaron Caplan ----------MB_8D1D15EC8485C9D_F78_BC952_webmail-vm048.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I FB messaged Maggie Thompson about Dave Kaler and she said "I THINK he di= ed several years ago but I'm not sure. Good question, though. Please let me= know, if you get a for-sure answer from someone." I also contacted Ethan Roberts, comic art collector and one of the organize= rs of the 64 NY Comicon (the very 1st "official" Comic Con) - Dave had been= an attendee of the 64 Con and Ethan had been searching for him as a possib= le panelist for his 64 Comicon Panel at last month's NYCC. But he had no lu= ck either.=20 Bill Schelly last interviewed him in 1995 (the full interview was published= in Alter Ego #20, Jan 2003 issue) but has not heard from Kaler since.=20 =20 Aaron =20 -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Caplan To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Mon, Nov 17, 2014 12:56 am Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? Yes, I've tried Roy a few years ago ... he was Dave's room-mate for a few m= onths in the 60's. But he hasn't heard from him since the 80's. Bill Schell= y also tried to find him a few years ago ... Bill writes in his 2010 Founde= rs of Comic Fandom that Dave's "current whereabouts and welfare are unknown= ." The mystery deepens ... Aaron =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jimvanhise@aol.com [comicbookfanzines] To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 11:13 pm Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? =20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Unfortunately it seems that most people who might have known are now deceas= ed (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas at Alte= r Ego.--Jim Van Hise =20 In a message dated 11/16/2014 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, comicbook= fanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: =20=20=20=20 =20=20 I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A Kaler" in one o= f the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also to= no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories, one in which Kaler d= ropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambling debts, th= e other more recently that he had passed away as a result of AIDS ... is = there any truth to either rumor? By now, he'd be pushing 70, so hopefully= he's still with us ... Aaron Caplan =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burns jameshburns@webtv.net [comicbookfanzines] To: comicbookfanzines Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 4:48 pm Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler? =20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long time comics = dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics Unlimited dist= ributors... We were talking about the old dsys, and didn' t know whether Dave Kaler w= as still with us? Dave, of course, wrote for Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conven= tions, and made other signigicant contributions to this medium we love= ... Thanks! Best, Jim > From: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > To: comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [cbzines] Digest Number 235 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:34:49 -0700 >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > comicbookfanzines-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >=20=20=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >=20=20=20 > There is 1 message in this issue. >=20 > Topics in this digest: >=20 > 1. Gene Day Zines? > From: magilla445@aol.com >=20 >=20=20=20 > _______________________________________________________________________= _ > _______________________________________________________________________= _ >=20=20=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:39:40 EDT > From: magilla445@aol.com > Subject: Gene Day Zines? >=20 > In a message dated 6/12/02 7:33:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 > comicbookfanzines@yahoogroups.com writes: >=20 >=20 > > Does anyone have a list of the zines Gene Day would have done> > in t= he mid-to-late '70s? >=20 > Hi Blake: About 1975, I knew a guy down in Dallas named Clifford W. Byr= d.=20=20=20 > Damned good fan artist with a lot of promise. Nice guy, too. His style = had=20 > been influenced by Stephen Fabian. Anyway, Cliff published a few fanzin= es,=20 > mostly about Robert E. Howard and all that sword-and-sorcery stuff. Sim= ba,=20 > Balik, were a couple of the titles. Also, briefly, Fantasy Crossroads. = Gene=20 > Day was buddies with Cliff and a regular contributor to his zines. I th= ink I=20 > still have a few of them stashed around somewhere. As I recall, I talke= d to=20 > Day on the phone once in this same time frame. It probably had somethin= g to=20 > do with WSA business, whom I'm sure some of the old-timers on the list = will=20=20=20 > remember WSA. I've often wondered whatever became of Cliff Byrd? I lost= =20 > track of him about 25 years ago. I heard he went through a divorce, the= n kind=20 > of disappeared. > < br>> I will look for those old fanzines, if you are interested. >=20 > Warmest regards...Ron Frantz > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________________________________= _ > _______________________________________________________________________= _ >=20=20=20 >=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/= =20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 ----------MB_8D1D15EC8485C9D_F78_BC952_webmail-vm048.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
I FB messaged Maggie Thompson about Dave Kaler and s= he said "I THINK he died several years ago but = I'm not sure.=20 Good question, though. Please let me know, if you get a for-sure answer=20 from someone."

I also contacted Ethan Roberts, comic art collector and one of the organize= rs of the 64 NY Comicon (the very 1st "official" Comic Con) - Dave had been= an attendee of the 64 Con and Ethan had been searching for him as a possib= le panelist for his 64 Comicon Panel at last month's NYCC. But he had no lu= ck either.

Bill Schelly last interviewed him in 1995 (the full interview was published= in Alter Ego #20, Jan 2003 issue) but has not heard from Kaler since.
 
Aaron

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Yes<= font size=3D"3">, I've tried Roy a few years ago ... he was Dave's room-mat= e for a few months in the 60's. But he hasn't heard from him since the 80's= . Bill Schelly also tried to find him a few years ago ... Bill writes in hi= s 2010 Founders of Comic Fandom that Dave's "current whereabouts and welfar= e are unknown."

The mystery deepens ...

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

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Unfortunately it see= ms that most people who might have known are now=20 deceased (like Shel Dorf and Phil Seuling). I assume you tried Roy Thomas a= t=20 Alter Ego.--Jim Van Hise
 
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I've been looking for Dave Kaler (he's listed as "David A= Kaler" in one=20 of the On the Drawing Board issues he contributed to) for many years also= to=20 no avail. I've heard a number of bizarre stories,= one in=20 which Kaler dropped out of fandom in the late 80's because of major gambl= ing=20 debts, the other more recently that he had passed away as a result of=20 AIDS ... is there any truth to either rumor? By n= ow, he'd=20 be pushing 70, so hopefully he's still with us ...

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Subject: [cbzines] Dave Kaler?

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I was having a long chat the other day with Ron Forman, long=20 time comics dealer and one of the head honchos of the erstwhile Comics=20 Unlimited distributors...

We were talking about the old dsys, and didn'=20 t know whether Dave Kaler was still with us?

Dave, of course, wrote for=20 Charlton, ran one of the earliest comic conventions,  and made = other=20 signigicant contributions to this medium we=20 love...

Thanks!

Best, Jim

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